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36 [00:18:14] <jmcnaught> missmbob: i'm using irssi
0.8.17-1+deb8u1 from jessie
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69 [00:34:46] <AdorableGNU> My lockscreen on the MATE desktop
environment doesn't show up after my computer sleeps for a
while, until after I make it wake, and use it for a minute. Then the
lockscreen appears. How can I fix this?
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73 [00:37:54] <dpro> hi
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79 [00:38:45] <dpro> I just upgraded an ancient squeeze to
wheezy, seems to work but dovecot and postfix can't
authenticate users anymore, seems to be a mysql issue, but I'm
really not sure what's going on.
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99 [00:49:16] <Mundus2018> Can anyone help me figure our why I
cant make this,
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111 [00:50:21] <jmcnaught> dpro: what to the log messages say
when there is an authentication failure?
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118 [00:51:38] <dpro> jmcnaught: user unkown
119 [00:51:50] <ton86> hy guys
120 [00:51:51] <dpro> jmcnaught: in auth.log
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122 [00:52:54] <jmcnaught> dpro: are you going to provide details
like configuration files and log samples?
123 [00:53:36] <dpro> jmcnaught: more than willing but
that's a lot of configs and I haven't changed a lot
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126 [00:53:54] <dpro> jmcnaught: I thing dovecot isn't using
mysql at all right now
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193 [01:22:14] <jhutchins> dpro: If you want to strip a config
file with a lot of comments, egrep '(^#|^$)'
/etc/dovecot.conf
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220 [01:35:01] <awal1> After installing 'numlockx' pkg
is this command "sed -i 's|^exit 0.*$|# Numlock enable\n[
-x /usr/bin/numlockx ] \&\& numlockx on\n\nexit 0|'
/etc/rc.local" a real/correct way or just a work around?
221 [01:35:23] <awal1> found in ubuntu wiki
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222 [01:35:45] <awal1> I dont really understand the whole meaning
of that command
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224 [01:37:15] <awal1> In fact I only understood what sed, enable
and on means :D
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226 [01:37:35] <baraba> this seems to be for init scripts awal1
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228 [01:37:57] <baraba> if it is a service
229 [01:38:05] <awal1> baraba, yeah, that I got it but the
command per se no clue what it does exactly
230 [01:38:06] <baraba> you can enable it running this:
231 [01:38:16] <baraba> systemctl enable numlockx
232 [01:40:03] <awal1> ok, I will try if systemctl does the job;
but I would like to understand for example what 's|^exit 0.*$|#
means :P
233 [01:40:06] <baraba> it is not a service unfortunately
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237 [01:40:20] <baraba> ok let's try
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242 [01:42:08] <baraba> it turns out it's a simple command
awal1
243 [01:42:17] <baraba> sed replaces strings in files
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246 [01:42:38] <baraba> -i option enables sed to do inplace
replacement
247 [01:42:45] <baraba> meaning the same file will be modified
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249 [01:43:03] <baraba> if you didn't do that, the
replacement would be printed on the standard output
250 [01:43:21] <baraba> now the thing in quotes, gives strings to
be replaced
251 [01:43:32] <baraba> s is for substitute
252 [01:43:52] <baraba> the string in between first || is a regex
to be replaced
253 [01:44:04] <baraba> and the thing after it is the replacement
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256 [01:44:19] <baraba> does this make sense?
257 [01:45:10] <awal1> baraba, I'm checking sed manual. I
never had to use it , really no clue but I understand 50% of what
you said yeah. :D
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259 [01:45:19] <awal1> too technical for me right now :P
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261 [01:45:40] <baraba> do you know regexes?
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263 [01:45:56] <awal1> no clue
264 [01:46:01] <awal1> googleing
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267 [01:46:44] <awal1> regurlar expressions , ok
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271 [01:48:00] <awal1> hmmm, fallen into linux programing
language :D
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274 [01:50:35] <awal1> baraba, thanks for your effort trying to
explain. sincerely, I confess it's something beyond my basic
debian/gnu/linux knowledge right now
275 [01:50:57] <awal1> but I'm/will spend a bit of time for
have a better idea :)
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277 [01:51:51] <baraba> you'll come around :)
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439 [03:39:24] <nasuga> Can anyone else confirm torrent
debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso varies from http
debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso? (Torrent SHA1:
7839873eb779fb1f3f0a39a790d0fe6bdf6fbb73 vs HTTP SHA1:
447d74813eaf5172aab0d42e0d0c69d222f8e91e)
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442 [03:41:58] <nasuga> HTTP iso verifies against signed checksum
443 [03:43:23] <jmcnaught> nasuga: they should be the same
444 [03:43:47] <nasuga> exactly why I'm asking for someone
else to validate
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449 [03:44:48] <nasuga> I redownloaded torrent despite it passing
bittorrent verification but it varies from signed checksums
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456 [03:47:34] <nasuga> Nevermind, there must be corruption on my
end (247M vs 12M)
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541 [04:33:36] <slikts> how do I install neovim in jessie?
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545 [04:34:15] <slikts> aaand yet again I regret not being on
ubuntu
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551 [04:35:54] <missmbob> you can still get ubuntu...
552 [04:36:01] <missmbob> ,checkbackport neovim
553 [04:36:05] <judd> Backporting package neovim in
sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: libmsgpack-dev (>= 1.0.0), libnss-wrapper
<!nocheck>, libtermkey-dev, libunibilium-dev, libvterm-dev,
lua-busted <!nocheck>, lua-mpack, lua-nvim [amd64 armel armhf
i386 mips mips64el mipsel powerpc ppc64el] <!nocheck>.
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555 [04:36:10] <missmbob> doesn't look good
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561 [04:39:25] <slikts> it just takes a lot of time to switch
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563 [04:40:12] <missmbob> if it's that important you could
dist-upgrade to stretch
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568 [04:41:24] <missmbob> hell stretch is probably more
"stable" than any ubuntu version
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571 [04:42:10] <awal1> +1 ^
572 [04:42:13] <slikts> the only problems I've ever had with
unstability were due to using dotdeb on debian
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574 [04:42:43] <missmbob> yeah, no one should ever use that
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602 [05:00:21] <gosports> In 1939, The American Jewish Committee
Bureau of the Synagogue Council cited a world Jewish population of
15.6 million. On February 22nd 1948, The New York Times listed Jews
worldwide at 15.6 million plus another 600,000 to 700,000 living in
Palestine, coming to a total of 16.2 million, actually 600,000 to
700,000 more than when the war started.
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604 [05:00:49] <gosports> German records for deaths at Auschwitz
were 150,000 total from all nationalities, of which only 30,000 were
listed as Jewish, so taking one fifth of 271,304 we come to a likely
maximum Jewish death total in all camps of just over 54,000.
605 [05:00:54] <jmcnaught> !ops spam
606 [05:00:54] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught
complains about: spam
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608 [05:01:03] <gosports> From ‘The Holocaust Hoax Exposed,
by Victor Thorn pages 18-19.
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618 [05:09:49] <harlmee> B'nai Brith is a cancer in Canada
that needs to be removed. 14 subscribers shows nobody is falling for
your pathetic BS anymore. This professor is telling the truth but
B'nai Brith tells nothing but lies.
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620 [05:10:03] <harlmee>
replaced-url
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622 [05:10:17] <harlmee> Alberta professor blames 9/11 on Israel,
supports 'open debate' on Holocaust
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632 [05:15:58] <pingfloyd> is there any way to keep those
Dunning-Kruger effect afflicted imbeciles out of here?
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634 [05:17:38] <hawkings> pingfloyd, You mean the Holohoaxers?
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636 [05:19:09] <hawkings>
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646 [05:23:30] <lucyharr> ""In Europe, scores of
researchers have been imprisoned for merely questioning holocaust
numbers or claims. They commited absolutely no crime whatsoever
other than simply asking questions. For such an apparent offense,
they were thrown behind bars for, sometimes, years at a time...
Because a clandestine group of scriptwriters carefully crafted this
elaborate hoax, should the rest of society be forced unwittingly
accept it without argument just because they
647 [05:23:31] <lucyharr> said so?"
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653 [05:25:15] <baraba> wait for it
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655 [05:26:00] <kcirick> How do I enable wpa_supplicant &
dhclient to start on boot? Right now I have to launch them manually
on boot
656 [05:26:10] <kcirick> (not using networkmanager or wicd)
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660 [05:26:41] <jmcnaught> kcirick: have you configured your wlan
in /etc/network/interfaces?
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664 [05:27:44] <kcirick> jmcnaught, I tried doing that at first
but I couldn't get it to connect (gave me some error message
which I dont remember now)
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667 [05:28:19] <somiaj> kcirick: there is a good article about
how to load wpa_supplicant as a daemon using the interfaces file in
/usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant somewhere.
668 [05:29:05] <kcirick> somiaj, thanks... I'll take a look
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671 [05:29:33] <jmcnaught> kcirick: there's also
replaced-url
672 [05:30:24] <dvs> yeah, use wpa-roam
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675 [05:32:21] <kcirick> jmcnaught, that's the one i tried
to use, but when I put wpa_supplicant.conf in the
/etc/network/interface file it gave me the error... I should try
again
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677 [05:33:08] <jmcnaught> kcirick: which ever way to end up
trying to use it would be helpful if you put your /e/n/interfaces
file and errors in a paste
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692 [05:39:26] <pingfloyd> auto in the stanza for interface in
/etc/network/interfaces should be what gets the interface to be
automatically brought up on start or when ifup -a is invoked. In
turn that should invoke wpa_supplicant if you've configured it
accordingly.
693 [05:40:17] <pingfloyd> I guess he left. SMH
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906 [08:42:57] <arvind> something really strange just happend
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908 [08:43:05] <arvind> sound stopped working
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914 [08:44:55] <jmcnaught> arvind: while you were using the
computer?
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918 [08:46:06] <arvind> jmcnaught, yeah, that is correct
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931 [08:48:02] <wanqcrypt> ls
932 [08:48:06] <jmcnaught> arvind: which programs are open? are
you using pulseaudio? did you check pavucontrol?
933 [08:48:30] <arvind> jmcnaught, in root it works - already
messed arround with puavcontrol ( which was not installed )
934 [08:48:53] <wanqcrypt> ls
935 [08:49:00] <wanqcrypt> sorry guys lol
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939 [08:49:33] <jmcnaught> arvind: > "in root it
works" \ are you running X as root? how did you start it?
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944 [08:50:01] <arvind> jmcnaught, aplayer the asla sample in
/usr share ; then i executed mpv some test file in my users home dir
945 [08:50:11] <arvind> ( not running x as root )
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949 [08:52:05] <jmcnaught> arvind: what can happen with
pulseaudio is you'll have all programs harmoniously using
pulseaudio (and thus sharing the sound card) and then one older,
legacy program uses ALSA instead of pulse, and hogs the sound card
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954 [08:53:40] <arvind> jmcnaught, dunno pulse audio was on the
system just the pavcontrol not, i just fired up alsamixer in the
console to see if i could use that as a means
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958 [08:56:36] <jmcnaught> arvind: most desktops in Debian use
pulseaudio, but the pavucontrol package is optional
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962 [08:58:15] <arvind> jmcnaught, maybe i should rm -rf some
.dirs .files ; login-out-in
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964 [08:58:27] <jmcnaught> arvind: uh what?
965 [08:58:47] <jmcnaught> arvind: make a test user
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972 [09:01:18] <jmcnaught> arvind: also i recommend, don't
default to "rm -rf". drop the "f", use "rm
-r" instead. You don't need to force everything, and
sometimes those warnings save your neck
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975 [09:01:56] <jmcnaught> for troubleshooting, don't
delete, move files to a different directory or rename them.
976 [09:02:06] <dsdeiz> hello all, curious if debian has a
repository for their templates for packer
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979 [09:02:39] <jmcnaught> dsdeiz: is packer a program that you
want to install on Debian?
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982 [09:03:32] <dsdeiz> oh sorry, nope.. packer is a tool for
creating vms and such
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986 [09:04:19] <jmcnaught> dsdeiz: oh and want Debian VM or VPS
templates?
987 [09:04:28] <dsdeiz> yeah
988 [09:04:43] <jmcnaught> dsdeiz: can you use debootstrap?
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990 [09:05:21] <jmcnaught> i am not aware of any official Debian
templates or VM images
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992 [09:05:44] <dsdeiz> ok cool. thanks found this
replaced-url
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994 [09:06:28] <dsdeiz> ahh nvm. found it now. thx!
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996 [09:06:47] <jmcnaught> dsdeiz: official debian templates?
997 [09:07:08] <dsdeiz> that's what i think it is..
replaced-url
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1001 [09:08:16] <jmcnaught> dsdeiz: looks promising
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1005 [09:10:49] <jmcnaught> dsdeiz: there's also
replaced-url
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1009 [09:12:11] <test__> jmcnaught, still not working . I even
added test user to the audio group
1010 [09:12:30] <pylot> Hi, i want to do a multi card + multi head
setup with 2 x Nvidia G210 + 3 itec usb (display link) (in total 7
screens) adapters and Xorg with Debian stretch... is that impossible
or do i have the chance to get it running?
1011 [09:12:46] <talin> is "sid" always the name of the
unstable release?
1012 [09:12:52] <pylot> talin: yes
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1014 [09:13:02] <jmcnaught> test__: are you still logged into any
sessions from before the new user login?
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1016 [09:13:20] <test__> jmcnaught, I am logged in as the new user
1017 [09:13:46] <test__> ( rebooted ) but i enabled autologin for
the user account where the pobrlem is
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1019 [09:14:11] <Bmw-x1>
replaced-url
1020 [09:14:44] <jmcnaught> !ops Bmw-x1 is spam
1021 [09:14:44] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught
complains about: Bmw-x1 is spam
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1026 [09:15:13] <test__> jmcnaught, when i test and audio from
root in the console it says device bussy
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1028 [09:15:19] <test__> jmcnaught, and no /dev/dsp
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1030 [09:16:36] <talin> pylot: thank you
1031 [09:16:40] <jmcnaught> test__: what does "aplay -l"
say? you can use pastebinit to make a paste
1032 [09:17:32] <test__> jmcnaught,
replaced-url
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1034 [09:17:43] <CtrlC> I've installed polipo and sat it to
convert tor. But it gives me connection resets. I can't connect
to anything.
1035 [09:17:53] <CtrlC> Any idea how to get it to work?
1036 [09:18:03] <talin> pylot: is stretch aways teh name for
testing ?
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1038 [09:18:47] <jmcnaught> test__: when you looked in pavucontrol
was the output device set to hdmi?
1039 [09:19:07] <CtrlC> it says: polipo[10526]: Refusing
connection from unauthorised net
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1041 [09:19:46] <test__> jmcnaught, yes
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1043 [09:20:07] <test__> jmcnaught, but the internal sound below
it is muted
1044 [09:20:16] <test__> jmcnaught, just unmuted it
1045 [09:20:39] <pylot> talin: no testing gets the next new name
right after its becoming stable
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1047 [09:21:17] <jmcnaught> CtrlC: what does "sat it to
convert tor" mean?
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1049 [09:21:41] <CtrlC> jmcnaught, convert localhost:9050 (socks)
to http.
1050 [09:22:52] <test__> jmcnaught, am i screwed to do a fresh
install ? :O
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1052 [09:22:56] <jmcnaught> CtrlC: you probably mean proxy or
forward. conversion means transforming data from one format to
another
1053 [09:23:09] <CtrlC> jmcnaught, I guess so.
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1055 [09:23:22] <CtrlC> It is forward I think jmcnaught
1056 [09:23:28] <jmcnaught> test__: do you want to use HDMI? you
couldn't select another output?
1057 [09:23:38] <test__> jmcnaught, tried it already
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1059 [09:24:40] <jmcnaught> test__: can you make a paste of
"pactl info" ?
1060 [09:24:50] <CtrlC> Here's the polipo config:
replaced-url
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1063 [09:25:37] <talin> pylot: alright. thanks again
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1065 [09:25:58] <test__> jmcnaught,
replaced-url
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1067 [09:26:21] <test__> also modprobed oss audio
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1077 [09:33:16] <testuser_> jmcnaught, nop nothing . wtf
1078 [09:34:08] <testuser_> jmcnaught, just tested with root on a
console and audio plays
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1081 [09:35:58] <jmcnaught> testuser_: what were you doing before
it stopped working? maybe you could play with pavucontrol some more?
or look in alsamixer, press F6 to switch to physical card and verify
no channels are muted
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1083 [09:36:34] <CtrlC> Anyone any idea about my issue.
1084 [09:36:49] <testuser_> jmcnaught, i was about the laugh my
ass of watching the second debate between clinton and trump. I
pressed some key sparadically and the sound went bye bye
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1086 [09:37:42] <n4dir> CtrlC i am not sure what you want to
achieve, but to use tor you don't need polipo (or privoxy)
anymore
1087 [09:37:47] <jmcnaught> testuser_: have you used some hot key
that mutes or switches audio to a different output?
1088 [09:38:03] <CtrlC> n4dir, Tell me more. How's that so?
1089 [09:38:15] <testuser_> jmcnaught, i thought so initially, but
then when i pressed the hotkeys it did not work and after a reboot
and adding another user it should have gone to default
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1091 [09:38:55] <n4dir> set the web-browser to make use of tor and
you are ready to go. Been like that for a while now.
1092 [09:39:06] <n4dir> You are probably better of using the
tor-browser anyway
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1094 [09:40:08] <jmcnaught> testuser_: not necessarily, alsa saves
its state at shutdown and restores it on boot
1095 [09:40:24] <testuser_> jmcnaught, where does it save ?
1096 [09:40:50] <testuser_> jmcnaught, not to forget root plays
fine so root is free from alsa conf?
1097 [09:41:50] <jmcnaught> testuser_: oh right. do headphones
work?
1098 [09:42:14] <testuser_> jmcnaught, never used them but the
speakers work fine because root play
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1102 [09:43:40] <jmcnaught> testuser_: try headphones anyways
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1107 [09:45:34] <testuser_> jmcnaught, sound not working with
headphones
1108 [09:46:27] <jmcnaught> testuser_: can you take a screenshot
of the pavucontrol Output Devices tab?
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1110 [09:47:54] <testuser_> jmcnaught, it is odd because no in
rood it says device busy
1111 [09:48:11] <testuser_> and does not play sound anymore
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1116 [09:50:45] <jmcnaught> testuser_: what does "sudo lsof |
grep dsp" say?
1117 [09:51:02] <jmcnaught> (or use su if you don't have
sudo)
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1120 [09:51:35] <testuser_> jmcnaught,
replaced-url
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1124 [09:53:26] <testuser_> jmcnaught,
replaced-url
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1126 [09:55:28] <jmcnaught> testuser_: do you want sound to come
out of built-in speakers, or from the speakers of a
screen/television plugged in via HDMI?
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1130 [09:56:36] <testuser_> jmcnaught, i just have external
speakers
1131 [09:56:45] <CtrlC> n4dir, I see. I want to use http though.
1132 [09:57:15] <CtrlC> I got it working using privoxy anyway.
Thanks.
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1134 [09:57:29] <jmcnaught> testuser_: and you cannot unmute the
analog output?
1135 [09:57:50] <testuser_> jmcnaught, afaik it is already
unmuted. i unmuted everything
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1139 [09:58:15] <jmcnaught> testuser_: in your screenshot analog
output is muted
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1143 [09:59:28] <testuser_> jmcnaught, reboot
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1146 [09:59:47] <jmcnaught> i'm out
1147 [10:01:46] <CtrlC> Can running a chmod -R 750 /home/user
cuase any issues?
1148 [10:02:19] <OpenTokix> CtrlC: All signs point to no
1149 [10:02:41] <CtrlC> So no issues. Thanks.
1150 [10:03:00] <SwedeMike> claritty: yes it can
1151 [10:03:00] <jmcnaught> CtrlC: you want all of your files to
be executable?
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1153 [10:03:18] <SwedeMike> claritty: that'll set the wrong
permissions on the .ssh directory and any authorized_keys for
instance
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1156 [10:03:54] <SwedeMike> CtrlC: sorry, above was for you
1157 [10:03:57] <CtrlC> jmcnaught, damn! You're right. I
guess not using -R will solve the issue. I don't want other
users to be able to even see my files.
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1159 [10:04:24] <jmcnaught> CtrlC: you don't need recursive
to accomplish that
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1161 [10:04:44] <CtrlC> so chmod 750 /home/user is the deal.
right? No issues.
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1163 [10:05:26] <jmcnaught> CtrlC: or 700, i don't know your
group situation
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1167 [10:06:14] <CtrlC> jmcnaught, I'm gonna add a new user
that I don't want that user to see my files. idk if that helps.
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1175 [10:07:18] <jmcnaught> CtrlC: what group owns /home/user? do
any other users belong to that group?
1176 [10:07:57] <arvind_> jmcnaught, the mistake was indeed the
internal sound config i turned the hdmi off and selected analog
surround ... and it worked again. Thanks!
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1180 [10:09:31] <CtrlC> jmcnaught, "getent group $user"
says: $user:x:1002:
1181 [10:09:36] <samriddhap> hey can anyone help me with some
error on kali rolling 2.0?
1182 [10:09:50] <jelly-home> !kali
1183 [10:09:50] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
1184 [10:09:53] <CtrlC> jmcnaught, and Both users will run a
vncserver.
1185 [10:10:06] <jelly-home> samriddhap: so, #kali-linux is your
channel
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1188 [10:10:38] <samriddhap> thanks jelly-home
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1190 [10:10:53] <jmcnaught> CtrlC: my point was, consider the
group and its members, decide how you want to use the group
permission.
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1192 [10:11:15] <CtrlC> jmcnaught, I see. Thanks.
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1195 [10:12:40] <arvind_> jmcnaught, i see what happend when i
muted it in xfce the sounds went poof xfce-volume messes up the
settings from pavucontrol somehow
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1198 [10:13:53] <jmcnaught> arvind_: i don't use xfce so i
don't know how well it integrates with pulseaudio. with gnome
it just works
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1215 [10:20:25] <arvind_> jmcnaught, what is odd i have two
speakers and one base speaker but in puavucontrol there is no option
for the base speaker
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1298 [11:00:19] <ghormoon> hi, anyone ever tried to join winbind
into domains with one way trust? I'm joining machine into
domain A, A trusts B (B users can login onto A machines, works with
windows hosts), but I didn't manage to make B users login on
the linux box :(
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1303 [11:02:17] <jelly-home> sounds like a question for #samba ?
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1306 [11:02:47] <ghormoon> trying that since yesterday :)))
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1308 [11:03:26] <greg__> hi, I had debian jessie installed but
then I tried to install stretch on the same disk and now, in the
grub menu, both entries point to stretch
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1310 [11:03:58] <greg__> is there a way to make both work?
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1312 [11:04:17] <freemint> Hello i attempt to start a process from
generated code without having it to store on the disk. I took a look
at poix_spawn exec and system. All of them take a path or a file as
parameter. Can i start a unix-process of a particular binary without
storing it to disk first?
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1325 [11:14:20] <sdx23> freemint: everything is a file,
doesn't mean it's on disk. You can have a tmpfs, e.g.
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1331 [11:15:37] <freemint> sdx23, thanks for the pointer to
tempfs, do you want to tell me more or should i RTFM?
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1335 [11:16:39] <sdx23> freemint: mount -t tmpfs -o size=1G none
/somewhere/tmpfs
1336 [11:16:53] <sdx23> freemint: I tell more if you have specific
questions ;)
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2838 [12:09:44] <arvind> i am playing arround with building debian
packages and have added only deb-src unstable to my sources.list but
when i apt-get -t unstable packagename does not seem to work
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2859 [12:10:08] <arvind> the returning message i get from apt is
that the value unstable voor apt::defalut-release is invalid ( rough
translation)
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4462 [12:40:15] <unborn> man whats going on?
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4464 [12:40:24] <baum> unborn: maintenance
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4468 [12:40:41] <unborn> ah... okay
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4489 [12:47:17] <lupen> film
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4508 [12:51:58] <arvind> poor support for mtp devices in jessie
4509 [12:51:59] <arvind> ugh
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4582 [13:26:16] <linuxbeginner131> I want to install debian
testing with kde 5.x version. is kde5 default in testing? And: whats
the beste way: install stable without DE and the upgrade
sources.list or is there a ready-to-use-iso??
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4606 [13:39:34] <tinyhippo> linuxbeginner131: DebianUnstable
contains the KDE Frameworks 5.23, Plasma 5.6 and Applications 16.04
4607 [13:39:42] <tinyhippo> DebianStretch contains the KDE
Frameworks 5.22, Plasma 5.6 and Applications 16.04
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4610 [13:40:53] <jelly> linuxbeginner131: the best way to get
testing running is still "install minimal stable without
anything, release upgrade to stretch, then tasksel or other method
to install your DE and other stuffs"
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4612 [13:42:23] <linuxbeginner131> you speek about stretch and
unstable (=the same I think)... but what about: I want to use
testing.. can I easily install kde 5.x ?
4613 [13:43:31] <qqx> linuxbeginner131: stretch is currently
testing
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4615 [13:44:19] <linuxbeginner131> oh stretch is testing.. ok..
and installing stable minimal and upgrading via sources.list is
better than taking the Alpha7 installer??
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4618 [13:45:03] <linuxbeginner131> or would it be the same if it
works?
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4621 [13:45:28] <qqx> If the alpha installer works for you, it
should give pretty much the same result.
4622 [13:45:54] <qqx> And if it doesn't work, you can file a
bug report to help improve things.
4623 [13:45:58] <linuxbeginner131> ok.. thats an exact answer and
what I wanted to know.. thank you very much ! bb
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4629 [13:46:37] <linuxbeginner131> mm. ok.. and latest stretch iso
is alpha7, right?
4630 [13:46:38] <qqx> I did an install with the alpha installer
over the weekend without problems. But your mileage may vary.
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4684 [14:03:25] <lixus> hello, for lifecycle and patch management
i need to ensure that i can pin apt repos to a spezific version. Is
it possible to install from a "Point Releases" and also
let the /etc/apt/sources.list refere to that point release ?
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4686 [14:04:39] <lixus> example: i have to a test server that gets
installed with pxe/preseeding with debian 8.2 . several month later
i want to install the prod server with pxe/preseeding with exact the
same version 8.2
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4689 [14:07:43] <lixus> how can i achieve this ? I am currently
using this snapshot repos e.g.
replaced-url
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4779 [14:48:34] <menace> does anyone else have the problem for
debian testing and KDE that starting icedove and pidgin seems to
crash Plasma Desktop often? Plasma restarts instantly, but sometimes
application windows are not seen anymore on the desktop
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4782 [14:50:36] <Drzacek> menace, I'm on debian testing, I
use icedove (no pidgin though), no problemms. Also, there is
#debian-next on OFTC network for debian testing
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4833 [15:20:22] <DeaDSouL> hi, how can I install netatalk on
jessie ?
4834 [15:20:27] <DeaDSouL> ,v netatalk
4835 [15:20:28] <judd> Package: netatalk on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.2.2-1; sid: 2.2.5-1.1
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4840 [15:22:40] <themill> You'd probably compile the source
package
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4855 [15:28:49] <watmm> Using debian on aws and they mailed me to
say 8.6 images are available. Would like to confirm that this is the
same as simply installing security updates on 8.0?
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4861 [15:31:41] <themill> watmm: it is
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4863 [15:31:51] <watmm> ta, no need so
4864 [15:32:40] <jelly> but you're going to save a tiny wee
bit of disk space for amazon if your new instances are based on
newer images, maybe?
4865 [15:32:50] <Nik05> watmm What I understand is that security
updates shouldn't results in any changes to the behaviour of
applications unless the issue is critical and cannot be patched on
the stable version. Point releases can update software to a newer
version, resulting in change of bevahiour i guess.
4866 [15:32:59] <Nik05> And you can just upgrade just like
security updates
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4870 [15:33:28] <Nik05> watmm also it is already out for a month
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4882 [15:38:33] <DeaDSouL> themill: thanks man
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4902 [15:47:14] <Nik05> Does anyone know if you get a second
confirmation mail after send a confirmation back for a mailing list?
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4904 [15:47:41] <ksk> Nik05: dont think so, you talking about an
offical debian list, or?
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4906 [15:47:59] <TomTomTo1> you get a confirmation, that your
email has been added.
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4909 [15:48:52] <Nik05> yes ksk. THank you TomTomTo1 guess I did
something wrong
4910 [15:49:20] <TomTomTo1> it sometikes takes a few minutes.
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4915 [15:51:55] <Nik05> TomTomTo1 I see :P
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4920 [15:53:49] <Nik05> I send a new confirmation mail (with the
correct From: Address), but apparently it doesnt matter what the
from address is
4921 [15:53:50] <watmm> Nik05: dist-upgrade produces no results
4922 [15:54:02] <Nik05> did you do an update bfore that watmm ?
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4924 [15:54:07] <watmm> jessie and jessie/updates in sources.lst
4925 [15:54:18] <watmm> yep, daily
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4929 [15:55:37] <jgjorgji> any ideas how i get out of this mess?
replaced-url
4930 [15:55:57] <jgjorgji> it fails to install with dpkg too and
if i disable config it fails on --install
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4932 [15:56:06] <jgjorgji> hostname works fine when typingthe
command...
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4935 [15:57:01] <Nik05> watmm didnt you already upgrade? Updates
are out since 18 september
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4938 [15:57:14] <missmbob> debian doesn't even have sssd
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4943 [15:57:42] <missmbob> typo. my bad
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4947 [15:58:58] <missmbob> jgjorgji: i'm still confused
though. 1.8.4-2 is what you're trying. jessie is 1.11.7-3
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4949 [15:59:44] <jgjorgji> i'm on wheezy sorry should have
mentioned
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4953 [16:00:38] <jgjorgji> this machine probably has a ton of
things wrong with it tbh
4954 [16:00:50] <jgjorgji> but i'm not sure how to debug
apt/dpkg really
4955 [16:01:00] <jgjorgji> how do i get more info on why it's
failing?
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4966 [16:06:38] <petemc> jgjorgji:
replaced-url
4967 [16:06:39] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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4969 [16:07:04] <petemc> ah, that might not be relevant
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4971 [16:07:13] <petemc> what does hostname return ?
4972 [16:07:42] <jgjorgji> petemc: just returns the hostname,
seems to be working fine
4973 [16:08:10] <petemc> maybe it want a fully qualified name
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4975 [16:09:57] <petemc> tho sssd works for me on jessie, and
hostanme returns foo , hostname -f returns foo.bar.com
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4979 [16:11:18] <missmbob> is dpkg not letting others edit
factoids or is it just pissed at me for some reason?
4980 [16:12:35] <petemc> works for me
4981 [16:12:44] <petemc> dpkg: petemc
4982 [16:12:45] <dpkg> you are, like, a joke killer
4983 [16:12:59] <petemc> dpkg: no, petemc is not a joke killer
4984 [16:12:59] <dpkg> petemc: okay
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4988 [16:13:26] <missmbob> petemc: sigh. will you add a note to
the evolution factoid? it's a pretty serious bug (in debian,
too, but couldn't find a debian bug on it). fixed upstream.
replaced-url
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4992 [16:16:27] <petemc> dpkg: evolution =~
s/irc.gimp.org/irc.gimp.org.
https:\/\/bugzilla.redhat.com\/show_bug.cgi?id=1373737/
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4994 [16:17:08] <petemc> dpkg: evolution =~
s#irc.gimp.org#irc.gimp.org.
replaced-url
4995 [16:17:09] <dpkg> OK, petemc
4996 [16:17:11] <missmbob> thanks
4997 [16:17:14] <petemc> np
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5029 [16:36:02] <woshty> Is there a cups channel=
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5031 [16:36:04] <woshty> ?
5032 [16:36:34] <missmbob> there is ##cups ...not sure how live it
is
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5034 [16:37:05] <teraflop> maybe they renamed it to
#org.cups.cupsd :p
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5040 [16:39:03] <woshty> I am getting strange behaviour from
ErrorPolicy retry-job .. it puts all jobs on hold first
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5052 [16:41:35] <teraflop> woshty: because the printer is off when
you send the job?
5053 [16:41:47] <teraflop> powered off*
5054 [16:42:04] <woshty> nope, I can release the job at
localhost:631
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5080 [16:48:12] <teraflop> woshty: ah, I noticed weird behaviour
when the printer is powered off having a bunch of jobs and printer
doing nothing, for such purposes i prefer cancel job, i find easier
to just re-send the job when the printr is on
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5082 [16:49:49] <woshty> teraflop: I was really annoyed with the
default stop-printer. That is a bad default setting for nearly every
usecase. ErrorPolicy retry-current-job seems to work better. No idea
what the difference is.
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5084 [16:50:07] <teraflop> woshty: I agree
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5087 [16:50:43] <teraflop> I agree with the bad defaults, not sure
about retry-current-job
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5091 [16:51:36] <Orbstheorem> I guess one of the pages I consult
the most is
replaced-url
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5106 [16:54:37] <adac> systemctl ....where can one find the config
files for this?
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5119 [16:57:12] <noctis_lux> Hi! I'm running Debian stable at
the moment and need to update python3 to 3.5 for a given project.
What solution would you recommend? (sorry if this already went
through, battling with unruly wifi)
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5124 [16:59:58] <teraflop> adac: huh?
5125 [17:00:18] <missmbob> noctis_lux: i don't think
there's a good solution. btw, for your sucky connection you
should look into mosh.
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5132 [17:00:58] <jelly> noctis_lux: build python3.5 and install
into a custom prefix like /opt/python3.5 or /usr/local/python3.5
5133 [17:01:16] <missmbob> jelly: would that work? not sure
5134 [17:01:30] <missmbob> ,checkbackport python3
5135 [17:01:32] <judd> Backporting package python3 in
sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: python3.5 (>= 3.5.1-13~), python3.5-minimal:any.
5136 [17:02:32] <jelly> missmbob: if it doesn't work, then
python people have things to fix
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5139 [17:03:08] <Hood> In my latest update of debian systemd-shim
has enn wipped and replaced by systemd (no more init system) and it
does not work, so I want to reinstall the iit system, but the
network is not configured, how can configure the network in systemd?
5140 [17:03:56] <jhutchins> Is it python or ruby that can break
essential system utilities?
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5142 [17:04:10] <teraflop> jhutchins: yeah
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5144 [17:04:21] <missmbob> python is crucial.
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5146 [17:05:13] <teraflop> but if you build python in custom
location not messing with system python is fine I guess
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5151 [17:06:06] <noctis_lux> Oh, that's an interesting idea.
Since pip has been integrated into Python, does that mean pip would
install packages for the custom install?
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5156 [17:08:07] <TomTomTo1> you could build python 3.5.2 and use
it in a vitualenv, so it doesn't mess with the rest of your
system.
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5158 [17:08:19] <jhutchins> noctis_lux: What kind of project
isn't that won't be backwards compatible with stable
Debian?
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5160 [17:09:02] <Iridos> judd, versions python3
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5162 [17:09:03] <judd> Package: python3 on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.4.2-2; stretch: 3.5.1-4; sid: 3.5.1-4
5163 [17:09:45] <missmbob> it was the checkbackports thing that
gave me pause
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5165 [17:09:56] <Iridos> I saw that a little late
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5167 [17:09:58] <noctis_lux> jhutchins: it uses deques from the
collections module, which got a new fancy insert() method it seems.
I was surprised not to be able to run it too, when I joined the
project
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5170 [17:10:42] <Iridos> agreed… if build dependencies
cannot be fulfilled for a package backport, you're probably not
better off for a manual build
5171 [17:10:42] <teraflop> you better don't mess system
python in debian systems
5172 [17:10:59] <jelly> missmbob: one does not merely backport
python
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5174 [17:11:22] <Iridos> not merely… but fully
5175 [17:11:30] <Iridos> …and gladly
5176 [17:11:31] <missmbob> jelly: it think we're saying the
same thing :P
5177 [17:11:46] <teraflop> well yeah you can get fully fucked :P
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5184 [17:13:15] <Iridos> missmbob, you need python 3.5 to build
python 3.5??
5185 [17:13:16] <teraflop> just build python in a hidden corner of
your system and youll be fine :)
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5190 [17:14:15] <Iridos> so how was the very first python3.5
installation done
5191 [17:14:43] <missmbob> Iridos: i'm too lazy to actually
research why judd said what it did. just saying it probably wont be
a ssb
5192 [17:15:00] <noctis_lux> Probably by hand with a needle and a
magnet, Iridos :b
5193 [17:15:26] <Iridos> missmbob, what it says is correct…
apt-get build-dep python3 --> E: Build-Depends dependency for
python3-defaults cannot be satisfied because the package python3.5
cannot be found
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5202 [17:18:00] <jhutchins> I often wonder what it is that
developers run when their projects won't work with any
supported release of Linux.
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5204 [17:18:36] <missmbob> i was (no longer) the lead developer of
deluge and the #1 rule was it has to work on debian stable
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5206 [17:19:11] <Iridos> jhutchins, that's why it's
"ruby on rails" and not "ruby on linux"
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5276 [17:45:40] <noctis_lux> For a potential future change (or
cusiority's sake), would you recommend trying debian unstable
over another distribution? For what reason?
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5278 [17:46:27] <missmbob> noctis_lux: never
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5280 [17:47:01] <teraflop> if you want to support debian filing
bugs and testing stuff sure go with sid
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5283 [17:47:31] <dondelelcaro> you can file bugs and test using
testing too if that helps
5284 [17:47:40] <teraflop> yeah
5285 [17:47:40] <CtrlC> How does shared hostings manage the
permissions so that each host won't be able to access other
people's files?
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5296 [17:57:22] <noctis_lux> Thanks for the information!
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5307 [18:00:56] <God> hola
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5309 [18:01:11] <God> my wifi keeps dropping and doesnt reconnect
quickly
5310 [18:01:19] <God> but if I do ifdown ifup its fine
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5312 [18:01:27] <God> im already using wicd
5313 [18:01:28] <God> any ideas?
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5315 [18:02:22] <jhutchins> God: Take a look at dmesg, see if you
can find a reason for it dropping.
5316 [18:02:32] <jhutchins> God: Sometimes wifi just doesn't
work very well.
5317 [18:02:47] <God> lol my wifi is really good tbh
5318 [18:03:00] <God> in windows 10 ive never even had a stutter
even when streaming games from steam
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5320 [18:03:04] <teraflop> God: yeah dmesg/journalctl
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5322 [18:03:19] <teraflop> God: but you're not in windows ^
5323 [18:03:21] <God> ill take a look next time but it seems more
like
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5325 [18:03:27] <God> it has one seconds bad connection
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5327 [18:03:31] <God> and it just throws in the towel
5328 [18:03:39] <God> and doesnt just reconnect it quickly
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5331 [18:04:07] <dondelelcaro> God: this is one of the reasons why
I've switched to using network-manager
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5333 [18:04:20] <God> well im using wicd
5334 [18:04:25] <God> which I thought would solve it
5335 [18:04:33] <dondelelcaro> still not perfect, but it seems to
work better than wicd or just wpa-supplicant
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5341 [18:05:01] <God> I might give it a go
5342 [18:05:05] <God> cheers for the tip
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5344 [18:05:23] <dondelelcaro> God: no problem. You just need it
and the nm-applet; it's pretty straight forward
5345 [18:05:43] <dondelelcaro> (and it will even handle switching
between wired, wireless, and usb connections properly)
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5347 [18:06:05] <God> thats handy! I dont need that yet but I will
eventually
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5357 [18:10:57] <alex_> any guy hre using meld
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5359 [18:11:24] <^7heo> Hey everyone.
5360 [18:11:48] <alex_> i would like define for specific file
format '.slx' to unzip before diff is shown in meld
5361 [18:11:58] <^7heo> I am having an issue to automatically
configure rsyslog-pgsql with debconf-set-selections during an
automated install.
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5369 [18:13:29] <^7heo> I currently have the following lines at
the end of my script:
replaced-url
5370 [18:13:57] <^7heo> however apt does crash when I execute it
in non-interactive with -y
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5372 [18:14:13] <^7heo> with dbconfig-common: rsyslog-pgsql
configure: aborted.
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5376 [18:15:09] <^7heo> does anyone have a clue how to fix that?
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5386 [18:17:02] <sigdk> any hint how to proceed with this:
replaced-url
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5388 [18:17:54] <missmbob> !tell sigdk about debian-next
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5418 [18:31:04] <arvind> hello, are there any open source programs
that I can using for skypeing?
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5421 [18:32:23] <ksk> arvind: not to connect to skype afaik, but
there are many open source VOIP implementations
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5427 [18:33:10] <Iridos> skype is skype, is skype… you can
skype with something else as much as you can bicycle with a car
5428 [18:33:11] <ksk> arvind: mumble for exmaple - its
"teamspeak like" if you know that
5429 [18:33:18] <arvind> ksk, i need to connect to the skype
network preferably without using the actual skype. Are you using or
have you used the skype prgraom in debian jessie?
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5431 [18:33:29] <ksk> hell no :>
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5434 [18:33:50] <arvind> yeah I do not like running non-free
either, esp from a corp.
5435 [18:33:51] <ksk> I read the other day they released a alpha
for skype on linux. but no support for that in here probably :)
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5442 [18:34:43] <mtn> arvind: skype works fine in linux
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5445 [18:35:22] <^7heo> how to install rsyslog-pgsql with a
non-localhost server?
5446 [18:35:26] <^7heo> it crashes all the time when I try.
5447 [18:35:27] <arvind> mtn the debian wiki talks about firejail
and running skype but I am not able to locate it in the jessie repo
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5449 [18:35:50] <mtn> arvind: hmm, the debian wiki should have a
skype section. have you read it?
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5451 [18:36:25] <mtn> arvind: it tells you how to install skype
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5453 [18:36:44] <arvind> mtn, afaik there is also a skype rep
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5458 [18:37:47] <arvind> mtn oh the repo is gone
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5466 [18:39:46] <missmbob> their new alpha client is basically
just a tiny browser to web.skype.com. that's it.
5467 [18:40:14] <^7heo> web.skype.com is horribly buggy.
5468 [18:40:26] <missmbob> yes. it sucks pretty hard
5469 [18:40:43] <parov> yep... arent there some neat skype
alternatives?
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5472 [18:40:56] <missmbob> not that work with skype
5473 [18:41:00] <ADubhlaoich> I've got two questions that
might actually just be general Linux ones; I've just realized
my OS isn't displaying Korean characters (Unicode issue?) and
that in general the system's typefaces look... off. It's
like there's no anti-aliasing in comparison to being in a
Windows environment
5474 [18:41:02] <ADubhlaoich> Any ideas?
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5479 [18:41:49] <parov> you checked wiki.debian.org/fonts?
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5482 [18:42:36] <^7heo> parov: yeah that's the main issue.
5483 [18:42:49] <^7heo> parov: skype is mutually exclusive with
ANYTHING else.
5484 [18:43:23] <^7heo> I have the problem @work, people are using
skype, and I'm trying to communicate, and it sucks.
5485 [18:43:25] <ADubhlaoich> parov: Thanks, hadn't thought
to check the wiki
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5487 [18:43:45] <^7heo> now, does anyone know about my pgsql
issue?
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5489 [18:43:58] <^7heo> s/issue/install &/
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5519 [18:47:55] <ADubhlaoich> parov: Turns out the term I was
looking for was 'font smoothing' and a sample config file
from the font page provided the fix I was looking for. I learned a
little bit reading about the issue too. Appreciate the help!
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5533 [18:50:31] <teraflop> ADubhlaoich: while in Xorg setting up
locales is not enough you need font families that supply the glyphs
you're looking for
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5535 [18:50:58] <parov> ADubhlaoich: you're welcome...
sometimes it's way more simple than you might think :)
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5538 [18:51:44] <ADubhlaoich> teraflop: Makes sense. Do any of the
default fonts in Debian supply them, or are there common
recommendations?
5539 [18:52:11] <ADubhlaoich> parov: I wasn't even aware
fonts had their own config file, but it makes so much sense that
they do!
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5544 [18:53:20] <teraflop> ADubhlaoich: idk off the top of my
head, but many fonts provides suitable glyphs so I dont think there
is a default
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5549 [18:54:00] <teraflop> ADubhlaoich: which language?
5550 [18:54:19] <arvind> Is there a way to list all packages I got
from backports?
5551 [18:54:23] <ADubhlaoich> teraflop: Fair enough. I'll
check a few of my options; been running whatever came by default but
had meant to see if anything else was comfortable
5552 [18:54:33] <teraflop> oh I bet is arabic ?
5553 [18:54:39] <Iridos> ^7… oh well
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5555 [18:54:41] <ADubhlaoich> teraflop: I noticed the issue with
Korean from browsing YouTube
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5557 [18:54:51] <Gabs5807> Hello, did anyone set up a SCEP CA
service on debian jessie?
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5563 [18:56:01] <teraflop> ADubhlaoich: try with fonts-nanum-eco
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5565 [18:56:23] <ADubhlaoich> teraflop: Thanks, will give it a go
in a few!
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5567 [18:56:26] <teraflop> np
5568 [18:56:30] <arvind> !help
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5570 [18:57:27] <TomTomTo1> arvind: try aptitude search
'?narrow(?installed, ?archive(jessie-backports))'
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5573 [18:58:19] <arvind> TomTomTo1, i do not have aptitude
installed but is there apt-cache search version? I tried changing
the aptitude into apt-cache .. but it did not work
5574 [18:58:43] <missmbob> no for that kind of thing you need
aptitude
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5578 [18:59:23] <TomTomTo1> i don't think there is an easy
way to do the same with apt-cache.
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5584 [19:00:19] <jhutchins> How does one manage to not have
aptitude installed?
5585 [19:00:33] <missmbob> jhutchins: i dont either
5586 [19:00:38] <TomTomTo1> by not selecting the standard tools in
the installer.
5587 [19:00:39] <greycat> Very easily. I also don't.
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5591 [19:01:46] <Hood> systemd does not bring up my network, so I
would like to bring it up manaullay, I have done dhclient wlan0, and
my network card gets the ip address from the DHCP server, but it
does not get te DNS serves, what can I do?
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5593 [19:02:35] <greycat> If it were a regular ethernet interface,
you'd run "ifup eth0" after configuring
/etc/network/interfaces
5594 [19:02:38] <greycat> I don't know wireless.
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5596 [19:03:22] <jhutchins> Hood: One answer would be "fix
the DHCP server".
5597 [19:03:38] <Hood> greycat, problem is that it was working,
but apt-get wipped out sysVinit and placed it with systemd, I only
need to get netork connecion to bring back again systemd-shim :)
5598 [19:03:40] <greycat> jhutchins: does manually running
dhclient configure resolv.conf?
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5600 [19:03:59] <Hood> jhut, problem is that it was working, but
apt-get wipped out sysVinit and placed it with systemd, I only need
to get netork connecion to bring back again systemd-shim :)
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5602 [19:04:11] <greycat> Hood: in a pinch you can always put the
google resolver in /etc/resolv.conf by hand
5603 [19:04:31] <jhutchins> greycat: Not unless the DHCP server is
sending DNS settings.
5604 [19:04:47] <Hood> the DNS server is my router
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5606 [19:04:57] <greycat> jhutchins: ASSUMING that the dhcp server
is fine, does he get that in resolv.conf by running dhclient BY
HAND, or does that come from the ifup infrastructure that he
bypassed?
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5608 [19:05:03] <jhutchins> greycat: If it is sending DNS info
dhclient should update /etc/resolv.conf.
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5611 [19:05:29] <greycat> I've never run dhclient by hand.
Ever.
5612 [19:05:40] <jhutchins> greycat: Yes, it should work if run
manually.
5613 [19:05:53] <ADubhlaoich> teraflop: Trying to figure out how
to change system font in LXDM ended up leading me onto this wiki
page that's fixed my issue -
replaced-url
5614 [19:05:56] <ADubhlaoich> Thanks for the help!
5615 [19:06:07] <Hood> me neither, but I have tried configuring
network.service for systemd and it did NOT wor so... bu hand
5616 [19:06:22] <Hood> bu*by
5617 [19:06:53] <greycat> Hood: printf 'nameserver
8.8.8.8\n' >> /etc/resolv.conf
5618 [19:07:02] <jmcnaught> Hood: maybe you could show your
/etc/network/interfaces. the networking.service is actually the same
old /etc/init.d/networking init script
5619 [19:07:11] <jhutchins> Hood: If networking was set up
correctly under init, systemd should have read that config and
created a functional one.
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5621 [19:07:24] <greycat> (or the equivalent operation using your
favorite text editor)
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5626 [19:07:59] <Hood> jmcnaught, maybe I could, but remeber, myy
computer does not hace networking, I am typng from the other system
in it (dual booting) so I cannot type it
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5630 [19:09:12] <Hood> jhutchins, it was set up correctly, itwas
working without problems, but systemd did not work
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5633 [19:09:32] <jmcnaught> Hood: if you are booted into another
linux install on the same computer you can show us that file. or
boot into your broken networking system, and do the temporary fix
suggested above ^
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5637 [19:10:27] <teraflop> ADubhlaoich: yeah you just need at
least one family providing the glyphs
5638 [19:10:44] <Hood> jmcnaught, i is a windows system
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5641 [19:11:14] <greycat> So wait, his debian system isn't
even running at the moment?
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5644 [19:11:25] <greycat> That's... going to make it hard to
fix.
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5646 [19:12:19] <missmbob> i dont see how editing resolv.conf
wouldn't work. so it should be easy enough and he can get back
on here after to solve it properly
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5648 [19:12:57] <greycat> It will work if the missing nameservers
are the only problem.
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5650 [19:13:13] <anddam> hello, how feasible is it to replace
systemd with runit in jessie?
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5652 [19:13:17] <greycat> Unfortunately, problems are pack
animals.
5653 [19:13:24] <Hood> greycat, it is running, but in the same
comptuer as this, so I can type here, or I can go into the other
boot... yes, it is going to be painful... so I am not asking how to
fix it, I am asking to bring it up manually for ONCE, so i can set
up systemd-shim and put up a system which I know how to fix
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5655 [19:14:04] <jmcnaught> Hood: the way networking is brought up
is the same with both init systems in jessie
5656 [19:14:08] <missmbob> he's talking about you, dpkg
5657 [19:14:15] <missmbob> still pissed at the bot :P
5658 [19:15:02] <Hood> jmcnaught, well, o, but in systemd it does
not work, whatever the reason, I am not interested in running
systemd, I am only interesting in how can I bring up manually the ne
network
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5660 [19:15:11] <gnarlin> Hello. I'm wondering if someone
here would be willing to help me with a silly little project.
I'm trying to install Debian 1.1 buzz in virtualbox using
floppy images I found here:
replaced-url
5661 [19:15:16] <gnarlin> ?
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5667 [19:17:10] <jmcnaught> Hood: if the suggestions you just got
do not work, copy your interfaces file to a USB stick so you can
paste it after you boot into windows again, or consider doing IRC
from your phone or another computer
5668 [19:17:59] <jmcnaught> anddam: there is a debian wiki page on
the topic, but you will probably find some stuff doesn't work
as well as it does with the default init
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5671 [19:18:18] <jhutchins> !interfaces
5672 [19:18:19] <dpkg> Your network configuration is in the file
/etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for
documentation, "zless
/usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for
example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a
and ifdown -a respectively.
replaced-url
5673 [19:18:53] <Hood> jmcnaught, the temporary fix is the
/etc/resolv.conf?
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5676 [19:19:43] <jmcnaught> Hood: you are saying that wlan0 gets
an IP address, but there is nothing in resolv.conf? Manually edit
resolv.conf.
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5678 [19:19:59] <greycat> Didn't we say this like 15 minutes
ago?
5679 [19:20:14] <missmbob> we did
5680 [19:20:18] <Hood> jmcnaught, greycat yes, thaks, I will try
it :)
5681 [19:20:27] <gnarlin> anyone here willing to help me with
Debian 1.1 buzz on virtualbox?
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5686 [19:21:18] <jhutchins> gnarlin: Why?
5687 [19:21:53] <jmcnaught> gnarlin: probably not, but if you
explain the problem you're having instead of asking to ask,
then maybe someone will have an answer
5688 [19:22:36] <gshrikant> When I run `update-grub` the grub.cfg
under boot/ seems to get updated but the GRUB menu on boot
doesn't seem to reflect those changes. Do I need to
grub-install again?
5689 [19:22:38] <gnarlin> well, some time ago I saw a video on
youtube where someone installed dos, upgraded it to 6.22, installed
win 1, upgraded to 3 etc etc until he had upgraded all the way to
win7. I thought it would be a crazy/fun idea/project to install the
very first version of debian, upgrade it to the max
5690 [19:22:59] <gnarlin> and make a video out of it
5691 [19:23:17] <gnarlin> the boot floppy runs fine
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5693 [19:23:24] <greycat> gshrikant: Are you 100% certain
you're booting from the device that update-grub is writing to?
5694 [19:23:54] <gnarlin> but when it asks for the second floppy
it can't read the image and I can't seem to identify it or
uncompress it.
5695 [19:23:58] <gshrikant> greycat: Yes, I have a separate boot/
partition where I am booting from.
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5698 [19:24:24] <greycat> gshrikant: No chance there are multiple
disks in the system, or an attached USB device you forgot about?
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5700 [19:24:44] <gnarlin> the root.bin
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5704 [19:27:02] <gshrikant> greycat: No. But I do have two /
partitions - but I thought since the /boot is separate, it
shouldn't affect the boot itself.
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5707 [19:27:19] <gshrikant> Is there any way I can check where
exactly grub picks up the cfg?
5708 [19:27:38] <gshrikant> To make sure I am booting from where I
think I am booting from.
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5721 [19:30:12] <jamesl> I am connecting a USB keyboard through a
powered hub to a Linux PC. When I unplug the hub from the Linux PC
and insert it into a Windows PC, the keyboard works fine on the
windows PC, and I can type on it. When I plug the same hub into a
Linux PC, Linux cannot identify the device, and I cannot type. I
cannot run dmesg or lsusb because I cannot use a keyboard. The Linux
PC is a raspberry pi running Debian 8.5
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5723 [19:30:22] <jamesl> how do I identify where the problem is?
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5730 [19:32:27] <jmcnaught> jamesl: can you try without the hub,
or a different hub?
5731 [19:32:40] <jamesl> but it works on Windows with the hub
5732 [19:32:45] <jamesl> so the problem is not the hub
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5734 [19:32:59] <jamesl> I plugged the hub into the Windows PC and
it worked fine
5735 [19:33:07] <jamesl> is it a hardware problem on the Linux PC?
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5737 [19:33:56] <jmcnaught> jamesl: it's still worth trying
without the hub on the linux computer
5738 [19:34:03] <jelly> jamesl: are you running actual debian, or
raspbian?
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5740 [19:34:09] <jamesl> raspbian
5741 [19:34:13] <jamesl> the latest version
5742 [19:34:15] <jelly> then ask in #raspbian
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5746 [19:34:49] <jelly> both embedded hw and derivative distros
can have issues specific for them
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5754 [19:38:40] <greycat> gshrikant: dunno how reliable this
answer is but
replaced-url
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5756 [19:40:21] <gnarlin>
replaced-url
5757 [19:40:38] <gnarlin> error message for debian 1.1 buzz
root.bin in virtualbox
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5761 [19:41:33] <nkuttler> gnarlin: is that a floppy disk image?
5762 [19:41:37] <gnarlin> yes
5763 [19:41:45] <gnarlin> debian buzz wasn't released for cd
5764 [19:41:52] <gnarlin> as far as I know
5765 [19:41:56] <nkuttler> did you try to mount it in a virtual cd
drive?
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5768 [19:42:13] <gnarlin> like mount -o loop etc?
5769 [19:42:23] <gnarlin> dru
5770 [19:42:25] <gnarlin> dur
5771 [19:42:26] <nkuttler> no, how did you add it to vbox?
5772 [19:42:43] <gnarlin> with a floppy drive emulator in
virtualbox
5773 [19:42:54] <gnarlin> boot.dsk works fine
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5775 [19:43:07] <nkuttler> gnarlin: did you checksum the image?
5776 [19:43:25] <gnarlin> no.
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5778 [19:43:48] <gnarlin> do you know the checksum for root.bin
buzz?
5779 [19:43:55] <nkuttler> is that not in the readme?
5780 [19:44:00] <gnarlin> one mo..
5781 [19:44:13] <gnarlin> yes
5782 [19:44:15] <gnarlin>
replaced-url
5783 [19:44:17] <gnarlin> found it.
5784 [19:45:11] <gshrikant> greycat: The grub.cfg in the /boot
looks okay. I ran grub-install again now, rebooting to see if it
changes anything.
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5786 [19:45:43] <gnarlin> it's the right checksum
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5796 [19:48:41] <gshrikant> greycat: That worked! I don't
know but appears like the separate EFI partition is mounted at
/boot/efi and 'update-grub' just creates the cfg, but only
`grub-install` forces it to read it.
5797 [19:49:07] <greycat> gshrikant: That's... partially
correct, as I understand it.
5798 [19:49:31] <greycat> update-grub just updates grub.cfg,
correct. But the magical part is "how does grub know where
/boot is" and that's the part where I had to google.
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5802 [19:52:25] <DeaDSouL> I wonder, if my server doesn't
have any DE, can I run a virtualbox and give it :0 or :1 as display
?
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5805 [19:53:28] <greycat> If you're trying to run an X
program without actually seeing it or interacting with it *in any
way*, look into xvfb
5806 [19:53:43] <greycat> If that's not what you are trying
to do, tell us what you are trying to do.
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5809 [19:54:52] <afernandez_> hello i have this problem doing
groupadd:
5810 [19:55:08] <afernandez_> groupadd fails with "cannot
lock /etc/group
5811 [19:55:11] <afernandez_> any ideas
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5814 [19:55:49] <DeaDSouL> greycat: I have a debian server running
as main server... I want to run another distro (OpenELEC) as virtual
machine. and display its KODI via hdmi to my TV
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5817 [19:56:30] <jmcnaught> afernandez_: show the full command and
output, and also try with addgroup (read the man for syntax)
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5820 [19:58:16] <afernandez_> useradd -b /visitors/ -m -R
/visitors/ -s /bin/bash -U visitor
5821 [19:58:33] <Iridos> are you root?
5822 [19:58:41] <afernandez_> useradd: canort lock /etc/passwd;
try again later
5823 [19:58:44] <afernandez_> yes
5824 [19:58:47] <afernandez_> root
5825 [19:59:08] <Iridos> try fuser /etc/group (or whatever file it
says cannot be locked)
5826 [19:59:08] <greycat> afernandez_: what does "id"
say?
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5829 [19:59:32] <afernandez_> uid 0
5830 [19:59:36] <afernandez_> gid 0
5831 [19:59:38] <greycat> *sigh*
5832 [19:59:43] <afernandez_> groups 90 root
5833 [19:59:51] <afernandez_> groups 0
5834 [19:59:53] <afernandez_> root
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5836 [19:59:58] <greycat> Run the "id" command with no
arguments and PASTE ITS OUTPUT here. Do not make up output. Do not
summarize the output. Do not add a username as an argument.
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5838 [20:00:04] <jmcnaught> DeaDSouL: you're going to have a
bunch of problems with framerate doing that. why not just run kodi
on debian? it's in jessie-backports
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5849 [20:02:23] <DeaDSouL> jmcnaught: the xbmc on deb8 is outdated
and most plugins don't work. and the one from the backports
repo, doesn't work nicely.. if it was idle for 5 minutes,
everything freez. and if I play a movie, every 30-50 seconds the
picture freezs for 2-4 seconds
5850 [20:02:40] <afernandez_> I cant :(
5851 [20:02:42] <afernandez_> is ion a vm
5852 [20:02:47] <afernandez_> and i can not copy paste
5853 [20:03:03] <anddam> jmcnaught: just read your reply, thanks
5854 [20:03:25] <jmcnaught> DeaDSouL: what about the kodi from
jessie-backports?
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5857 [20:03:52] <anddam> jmcnaught: I actually don't have
anything fancy, it's just a VPS so as long as there's a
virtual serial and I don't cut myself off the box I'm fine
5858 [20:03:54] <DeaDSouL> jmcnaught: yes that is the one with
freezes
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5860 [20:04:08] <anddam> jmcnaught: that likely means having sshd
running, I don't need much more
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5862 [20:04:29] <Iridos> afernandez_, so what does fuser say
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5868 [20:07:11] <jmcnaught> DeaDSouL: sounds like trying to
troubleshoot the kodi package in backports is a lot simpler than
trying to run a video player in a VM and then have it display on
your screen in full framerate
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5875 [20:10:25] <DeaDSouL> jmcnaught: the problem is .... I
don't know how to troubleshoot the issue :(
5876 [20:10:40] <jmcnaught> DeaDSouL: start with finding errors
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5878 [20:11:50] <DeaDSouL> jmcnaught: I don't know
what's causeing the freezes
5879 [20:12:07] <teraflop> DeaDSouL: kodi writes crashlogs also it
has a debug flag
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5882 [20:13:08] <teraflop> DeaDSouL: 99% of the time you fixed it
disabling hw decoding :P
5883 [20:13:10] <DeaDSouL> teraflop: that's the problem...
there is no crash...!!
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5887 [20:13:27] <DeaDSouL> teraflop: oh... I'll try that
5888 [20:13:31] <teraflop> DeaDSouL: tell it to debug
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5922 [20:23:23] <DeaDSouL> teraflop: disabling the hw decoding
didn't help
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5924 [20:23:49] <teraflop> well it worth a try
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5927 [20:24:20] <jahced> ahh it's a wonderful day
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5929 [20:24:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jelly
5930 [20:24:59] <arvind> after invoking aptitude -F '%c %p %v
%t' search ~i | awk '/^i/ && $4 ~
/jessie-backports/ {print}' - is there a way to easily remove
these packages and replace them with jessie packages. Some of the
updated packages include udev or libreoffice ( which will remove my
desktop xfce dependency) or even x11 packages...so i will not break
my system. ( list of jessie backports:
replaced-url
5931 [20:25:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o jelly
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5933 [20:25:15] <teraflop> DeaDSouL: debug it. launch -with the
appropriate flag from terminal and look the output when it crashes
5934 [20:25:19] <`Kevin> DeaDSouL: any chance you have a second
video card installed or laying around to dedicate to the VM?
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5938 [20:25:43] <`Kevin> you can use pci passthrough to get better
performance etc as it will be dedicated to that VM
5939 [20:25:50] <b6s3d> hi fellas, when i try to update my debian
server it tells me this:
5940 [20:25:50] <b6s3d> 0% [Connecting to ftp.debian.org
(130.89.148.12)] [Connecting to security.debian.org (195.20.242.89)]
[Connecting to deb.torproject.org (138.201.1^C
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5944 [20:26:23] <jelly> b6s3d: is tor running?
5945 [20:26:50] <b6s3d> service tor status
5946 [20:26:51] <b6s3d> ● tor.service
5947 [20:26:51] <b6s3d> Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or
directory)
5948 [20:26:51] <b6s3d> Active: inactive (dead)
5949 [20:26:51] *** b6s3d was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use
replaced-url
5950 [20:26:53] <DeaDSouL> `Kevin: yes, intel-vcard and amd
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5952 [20:27:12] <b6s3d> ok
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5954 [20:27:23] <lae> how do I install a package like parted in
preseed/early_command? anna-install parted-udeb doesn't seem to
install it...but I see that it installs parted-udeb later on in the
preseed process when fetching helper utilities
5955 [20:27:27] <jelly> b6s3d: how long do you wait there at 0%,
all the connections stuck?
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5957 [20:27:34] <b6s3d> yes
5958 [20:27:53] <jelly> b6s3d: how long do you wait? 5 seconds? 5
minutes?
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5962 [20:28:05] <Iridos> arvind, that actually tells me on my
system (as the last line) i zim 0.62-3 jessie-backports
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5964 [20:28:21] <`Kevin> DeaDSouL: thats just an option you can
try instead of pure emulation... i would opt for the AMD for pci
passthrough ... it will take a lot of testing to make it work but
ive done it for gaming and such
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5966 [20:28:29] <`Kevin> the AMD*
5967 [20:28:34] <Iridos> arvind, and whatever zim is, version
0.62-3 is stable and 0.65-2 would be backports
5968 [20:28:35] <b6s3d> it finished now with only error
5969 [20:28:38] <b6s3d> jelly^
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5972 [20:29:01] <arvind> Iridos, '
5973 [20:29:02] <jelly> b6s3d: pastebin the whole output (and try
not to press control-c)
5974 [20:29:07] <arvind> Iridos, ?
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5979 [20:29:58] <b6s3d>
replaced-url
5980 [20:30:01] <b6s3d> jelly ^
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5983 [20:30:11] <Kiril> hello guys
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5985 [20:30:22] <Iridos> arvind, at least for me, the output
isn't reliably correct. aptitude -F '%c %p %v %t'
search ^zim$ returns i zim 0.62-3 jessie-backports
5986 [20:30:27] <Iridos> judd versions zim
5987 [20:30:28] <judd> Package: zim on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.56-1;
wheezy-backports: 0.62-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.62-3; jessie-backports:
0.65-2~bpo8+1; sid: 0.65-3; stretch: 0.65-3
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5989 [20:30:51] <arvind> Iridos, it works here
5990 [20:31:04] <jelly> b6s3d: looks like your internet
connectivity on that system has issues
5991 [20:31:15] <Iridos> while apt-show-versions zim gives me:
zim:all/jessie 0.62-3 uptodate
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5993 [20:31:27] <jelly> b6s3d: physical or virtual machine? Can
you "ping security.debian.org"?
5994 [20:31:37] <arvind> Iridos, do you have a quesion for me or
are you trying to answer my question?
5995 [20:31:56] <b6s3d> i can ping google.com let me try ping
security.debian.org
5996 [20:32:05] <Kiril> which certs i need to use for bypassing
gmail restrictions ( i mean the certs located in /etc/ssl/certs )
especially for postfix and here is the google statement "We do
not accept self-signed certificates. For a certificate to be valid
it needs to chain up to a valid CA, like one in the Mozilla CA
list."
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5998 [20:32:28] <b6s3d> jelly: yes i can ping security.debian.org
5999 [20:32:30] <Iridos> arvind, at the moment telling you that
the line you used doesn't work (in the sense that aptitude
seems to give me wrong outout) - at least not when I use it on my
system
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6001 [20:32:59] <arvind> Iridos, great ... that is not the
question for me or the question I asked...
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6004 [20:33:09] <jelly> Kiril: what precisely do you do and what
kinds of restrictions do you see?
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6009 [20:34:40] <gnarlin> Anyone: can someone please help me
uncompress this file into it's seperate components?
replaced-url
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6011 [20:34:52] <b6s3d> jelly: what should i do?
6012 [20:35:09] <jelly> b6s3d: is it a physical or virtual system?
Does "wget
replaced-url
6013 [20:35:25] <b6s3d> VPS
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6015 [20:35:57] <Iridos> arvind, oh well… and to answer
it… a) downgrades are as such not supported, because any
program could write config files in home that aren't
downgradeable and or upgrade the file format for files they write
etc. etc. etc. that said… you can /msg dpkg partial downgrade
(the factoid was really meant for people who did a partial upgrade
to testing)
6016 [20:36:10] <cra1g321> is there a channel to do with backports
?
6017 [20:36:18] <greycat> gnarlin: what is is? Just a floppy
image? Try loopback mounting.
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6020 [20:36:34] <arvind> Iridos, okay thank you
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6022 [20:36:53] <b6s3d> jelly: vps\
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6024 [20:36:59] <b6s3d> i don't think i can wget
replaced-url
6025 [20:37:11] <b6s3d> failed: Connection timeout...
6026 [20:37:46] <jelly> b6s3d: do you have a local or network
firewall in place?
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6029 [20:37:56] <arvind> Iridos, someone here in the channel told
me about the aptitude command - found more info on :
replaced-url
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6031 [20:38:00] <Kiril> jelly i have some issues with gmail
6032 [20:38:10] <gnarlin> greycat: no, it's isn't a
floppy image. It's a gzipped cpio image
6033 [20:38:19] <b6s3d> no not on the server, ferm is installed on
this computer though
6034 [20:38:21] <jelly> b6s3d: pastebin the output of
"iptables-save", "ip a" and "ip r" run
as root
6035 [20:38:23] <Kiril> the emails going in spam instead of inbox
6036 [20:38:39] <jelly> b6s3d: what does "on this
computer" mean, the host?
6037 [20:38:53] <greycat> gnarlin: oh, in that case just zcat |
cpio -ivdum or whatever
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6040 [20:39:15] <Kiril> the reason i see is the following: gmail
did not encrypt this message
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6043 [20:39:32] <jelly> Kiril: where do you see this?
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6052 [20:40:38] <b6s3d> jelly:
replaced-url
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6054 [20:40:59] <jmcnaught> arvind: you aptitude search pipeline
also doesn't work for me, lists a bunch of packages that are
not installed from backports for me. Compare with the output of
aptitude search '~S ~i ~Ajessie-backports'
6055 [20:41:00] <jelly> Kiril: emails from gmail to your
self-hosted domain, or emails TO gmail FROM your self-hosted domain?
6056 [20:41:03] <Iridos> arvind, yeah, looks like a bug to me. The
thing is, though, it's somewhat non-trivial to find the archive
something is coming from… because packages can do a full
migration unstable->testing->stable
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6059 [20:41:55] <jelly> b6s3d: that's weird. I don't
know whether your ip a and ip r output is normal for the type of VPS
you use, sorry.
6060 [20:42:03] <Iridos> so the same package can be in different
repos over time… why aptitude fails (for me) on an obvious
case like zim (just one of many packages) , I have no idea
6061 [20:42:36] <b6s3d> k
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6063 [20:43:12] <jelly> b6s3d: care to run "traceroute
security.debian.org" or "tracepath
security.debian.org" whichever's available
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6066 [20:43:42] <b6s3d> sure
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6068 [20:44:33] <b6s3d> command(s) not found
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6070 [20:44:44] <gnarlin> graycat: I run "zcat root.bin |
cpio --format=ustar -ivdum" and just get "1 block" ?
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6073 [20:45:29] <jelly> b6s3d: what about "telnet
security.debian.org 80"
6074 [20:45:45] <gnarlin> if I run it without the --format=ustar I
get a bunch of cpio: Malformed number
6075 [20:45:47] <greycat> gnarlin: you said it was cpio, but then
you told it to extract ustar format? Weird....
6076 [20:45:48] <b6s3d> nope
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6079 [20:46:15] <jelly> b6s3d: I'm out of ideas. Show your
provider the wget output and ask them why that does not work.
6080 [20:46:16] <cobra1984> ciao
6081 [20:46:18] <greycat> gnarlin: Where did you get "no,
it's isn't a floppy image. It's a gzipped cpio
image" from?
6082 [20:46:18] <gnarlin> in install.sh on the boot.bin there is
this line: extract="cpio --format=ustar --extract
--unconditional"
6083 [20:46:23] <cobra1984> !list
6084 [20:46:24] <dpkg> cobra1984: Debian è un sistema
operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da
quello di gratis): vedi
replaced-url
6085 [20:46:27] <gnarlin> that's where I got it from
6086 [20:46:28] <TomTomTosch> that aptitude command from earlier
doesn't list packages installed from backports, but ones that
are installed and also have a version in backports. that's why
i used the ?narrow modifier earlier. aptitude search
'?narrow(?installed, ?archive(jessie-backports))'
6087 [20:46:58] <TomTomTosch> ?narrow chacks if both patterns
match for the same version.
6088 [20:47:03] <TomTomTosch> *checks
6089 [20:47:13] <`Kevin> b6s3d: what does security.debian.org
resolve to? (host security.debian.org)
6090 [20:47:15] <gnarlin> well, file doesn't recognize it as
a floppy image and neigther does virtualbox, which is why I'm
having such trouble
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6092 [20:47:26] <greycat> gnarlin: what does file say it is?
6093 [20:47:38] <Iridos> arvind, apt-show-versions seems to work
ok for me, though… why do you want to get rid of backport
packages anyway?
6094 [20:47:44] <b6s3d> host not found
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6096 [20:47:54] <`Kevin> b6s3d: if you ping it what ip shows up
6097 [20:47:58] <b6s3d> its a minimal system
6098 [20:47:58] <gnarlin> it is supposed to be dd to floppy, but
it's not strucktured like a normal floppy image
6099 [20:48:06] <gnarlin> according to install.txt
6100 [20:48:16] <jelly> b6s3d: "getent ahosts
security.debian.org"
6101 [20:48:20] <b6s3d> (195.20.242.89)
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6104 [20:48:40] <Iridos> TomTomTosch, ah, I just love aptitude for
the way everything one does with it is obvious
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6106 [20:48:46] <arvind> Iridos, i installed a buunch to compile
software but it was a dead end for me now I want to remove them, I
also installed some apps to just try out
6107 [20:49:06] <krav> uuugh. I set my xorg resolution wrong, and
now xorg won't actually boot. it just keeps looping back into
lightdm. anyone know a fix?
6108 [20:49:28] <b6s3d>
replaced-url
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6110 [20:49:33] <b6s3d> `Kevin ^
6111 [20:49:45] <`Kevin> seems valid
6112 [20:50:02] <jelly> b6s3d: when you complain to the provider,
also give them your "ip a" and "ip r" output and
ask them if that's fine and correct
6113 [20:50:06] <arvind> Iridos, i would rather stick with jessie
as I assume it is more stable
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6118 [20:50:43] <gnarlin> greycat:
replaced-url
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6121 [20:51:03] <`Kevin> b6s3d: do you have ANY working repos
where you can install traceroute? if not you are stuck as jelly says
^
6122 [20:51:32] <arvind> Iridos, apt-show-versions is actually a
relief because i saw udev being upgraded and i was a bit stunned
because i did not recall it being upgraded
6123 [20:51:36] <greycat> gnarlin: what does file say it is?
6124 [20:51:47] <Iridos> TomTomTosch, as in " aptitude search
'?narrow(?installed, ?archive(jessie-backports))' " ?
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6127 [20:52:16] <gnarlin> greycat: root.bin: gzip compressed data,
last modified: Wed May 22 05:25:16 1996, from Unix
6128 [20:52:22] <b6s3d> i have filed a complain to the provider
6129 [20:52:27] <jelly> gnarlin: and file -z root.bin?
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6131 [20:52:48] <gnarlin> root.bin: data (gzip compressed data,
last modified: Wed May 22 05:25:16 1996, from Unix)
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6134 [20:53:19] <b6s3d> i can install traceroute, but without
verification
6135 [20:53:56] <TomTomTosch> Iridos: it's not very intuitive
^^
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6138 [20:54:30] <`Kevin> b6s3d: what repos are you able to reach?
is it something ran by your vps provider?
6139 [20:54:44] <b6s3d> idk
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6141 [20:54:49] <b6s3d> how do i check?
6142 [20:55:04] <`Kevin> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
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6145 [20:55:18] <Iridos> TomTomTosch, but that was what you had in
mind?
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6148 [20:55:43] <b6s3d>
replaced-url
6149 [20:55:49] <b6s3d> `Kevin
6150 [20:55:52] <Iridos> TomTomTosch, because that command only
yields 43 bdo packages, while apt-show-versions yields 70 (and all
of them seem to have bdo in the version string)
6151 [20:56:23] <jmcnaught> Iridos: what about "aptitude
search '~S ~i !~A^stable'"?
6152 [20:56:38] <`Kevin> b6s3d: did you add the security line or
is that file still the same as when the vps was created?
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6154 [20:56:46] <`Kevin> `security.debian`
6155 [20:57:05] <b6s3d> didn't add anything
6156 [20:57:08] <Iridos> jmcnaught, 444
6157 [20:57:11] <b6s3d> was there from the start
6158 [20:57:20] <b6s3d> only tor i added
6159 [20:57:24] <TomTomTosch> Iridos: no idea
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6165 [20:58:22] <`Kevin> b6s3d: this is what you see with apt-get
install traceroute -> `Install these packages without
verification [y/N]? ` ?
6166 [20:58:29] <jmcnaught> Iridos: for me '~S ~i
!~A^stable' shows the same as '~S ~i
~Ajessie-backports' (except for the one package that i
backported)
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6169 [20:58:43] <b6s3d> yes
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6173 [20:58:59] <b6s3d> and i tried to update again because of
habit
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6178 [20:59:28] <nickgaw> Hi, What do I need to put in the sshd
configuration file to allow root to be able to login with my root
password?
6179 [20:59:32] <`Kevin> b6s3d: ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
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6181 [20:59:39] <ploop> is there any way to install testing with a
netinst image?
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6183 [20:59:55] <`Kevin> b6s3d: do you see gpg keys/files for
debian-archive-$yourRelease... etc
6184 [21:00:03] <greycat> nickgaw: grep PermitRoot
/etc/ssh/sshd_config
6185 [21:00:15] <b6s3d>
replaced-url
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6187 [21:00:27] <greycat> nickgaw: change whatever your line says,
to "PermitRootLogin yes" if that's what you want.
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6191 [21:00:57] <b6s3d> my release is jessie so yes
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6194 [21:01:36] <obo_> Hello, anybody here has used dotdeb in the
past, is it a good repository ?
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6197 [21:03:05] <nickgaw> nothing about allowing root login just
about strict passwords but after changing this to no and restarting
sshd I am still unable to login using root why is this
6198 [21:03:19] <`Kevin> b6s3d: if all apt-get packages via
replaced-url
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6200 [21:04:20] <TomTomTosch> Iridos: did you run
apt-show-versions | grep ~bpo ? it matches the aptitude output for
me.
6201 [21:04:22] <jmcnaught> nickgaw: sshd_config defaults to
'PermitRootLogin without-password' in jessie, so you need
to use an SSH key or change the setting
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6203 [21:04:40] <b6s3d> `Kevin its weird, i ran a old version of
tor accidently
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6205 [21:04:45] <b6s3d> as exit node
6206 [21:04:55] <b6s3d> perhaps that has something to say
6207 [21:04:57] <b6s3d> perhaps that has something to say
6208 [21:04:58] <greycat> nickgaw: change whatever your line says,
to "PermitRootLogin yes" if that's what you want.
6209 [21:05:01] <b6s3d> ups
6210 [21:05:03] <b6s3d> ?
6211 [21:05:09] <b6s3d> 8
6212 [21:05:12] <b6s3d> omg sorry
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6215 [21:05:38] <b6s3d> wb mtn
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6217 [21:05:41] <nickgaw> That setting does not exist in my
configuration file for sshd what should it look like and where
should it be placed?
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6219 [21:06:05] <`Kevin> b6s3d: >> md5sum
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-jessie-stable.gpg
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6221 [21:06:12] <TomTomTosch> Iridos: apt-show-version shows a
firefox version i got from mdn, that is no longer in that repo,
aptitude does not. but that's not a bug.
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6223 [21:06:40] <`Kevin> b6s3d: pastebin ` apt-cache policy
traceroute `
6224 [21:06:51] <Iridos> TomTomTosch, apt-show-versions | grep
~bpo --> 82 (but some packages have bpo in the name)
6225 [21:06:59] <jmcnaught> nickgaw: are you not using Debian? You
can put your /etc/ssh/sshd_config on
replaced-url
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6230 [21:07:16] <Iridos> oh "~"
6231 [21:07:20] <nickgaw> I am using jessie.
6232 [21:07:28] <b6s3d>
replaced-url
6233 [21:07:31] <nickgaw> fresh installation of it.
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6236 [21:08:19] <Kiril> jelly sorry for the delayinh
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6239 [21:08:58] <Kiril> m.. i saw the message in gmail like when
you move your mouse on broken lock
6240 [21:09:01] <gnarlin> greycat: I've tried multiple
iterations and parameters of cpio and paxcpio :-(
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6244 [21:09:25] <Kiril> and here's the reference from gmail
replaced-url
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6246 [21:09:47] <`Kevin> b6s3d: md5 matches, id you get the
verification issue for other packages as well that suggests
tampering to some extent somewhere ...
6247 [21:09:51] <`Kevin> if*
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6252 [21:11:23] <jhutchins> nickgaw: Are you sure you're
looking at the sshd_config, not ssh_config?
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6254 [21:11:50] <nickgaw>
replaced-url
6255 [21:12:19] <jmcnaught> nickgaw: line 28
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6262 [21:13:19] <nickgaw> What should it read?
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6267 [21:14:12] <jhutchins> nickgaw: It should have one of the
options listed in the manpage.
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6269 [21:14:44] <nickgaw> I want to be able to use my root
password so what should I set it to?
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6271 [21:15:16] <obo_> Please have any feedback about dotdeb
repositroy, is it a good one ?
6272 [21:15:22] <greycat> nickgaw: change whatever your line says,
to "PermitRootLogin yes" if that's what you want.
6273 [21:15:27] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell obo_ about dotdeb
6274 [21:15:51] <nickgaw> dpkg dotdeb
6275 [21:15:51] <dpkg>
replaced-url
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6277 [21:16:09] <jmcnaught> nickgaw: you can message the bot,
there are examples in the /topic
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6281 [21:17:54] <nickgaw> ok now I am able to login using my
password how can I delete my pastebin or how long are they kept?
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6295 [21:24:45] <b6s3d> `Kevin: well, lets wait and hear from the
provider
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6300 [21:26:36] <`Kevin> b6s3d: yep :) i have a few assumptions
but it all lies on the provider... they could be proxying your cxn
or something weird which they may not even reveal that and/or the
installer is modified or busted
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6302 [21:27:41] <jmcnaught> nickgaw: you don't need to worry
about a pastebin with a default config file
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6305 [21:28:47] <nickgaw> but how long are they stored and if I
would ever need to delete one is this possible?
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6307 [21:29:10] <greycat> Depends on the paste site. Some of them
have buttons you can click to select a storage duration before
posting.
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6310 [21:29:49] <Iridos> the site tells you on the page where you
send the pastebin and usually you can select a duration
6311 [21:29:57] <nickgaw> what is pastebinit's
paste.debian.net policy?
6312 [21:30:01] <jmcnaught> nickgaw: go to the url for your paste.
it says on it how long it is active for. if you are the author of
the paste, there's a delete link
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6316 [21:30:49] <nickgaw> I used pastebinit the console program
can I ever delete pastes like that?
6317 [21:30:55] <greycat> P.S. sshd_config(8) says the default for
PermitRootLogin is "yes", so if you DIDN'T have a
PermitRootLogin line, the default would have let you in.
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6320 [21:31:36] <jmcnaught> nickgaw: probably not. you
shouldn't make pastes of files with private information in
them, without sanitizing them first. by default sshd_config has
nothing private in it.
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6324 [21:32:21] <Iridos> except for the
"let_everyone_in" option
6325 [21:32:34] <nickgaw> does paste.debian.net automatically
delete pastes after a while?
6326 [21:32:40] <greycat> Go there and see.
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6336 [21:34:18] <greycat> Also P.S. your had "PermitRootLogin
without-password". Line 28.
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6339 [21:34:57] <nickgaw> I changed it to yes and am now able to
login as root.
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6342 [21:35:34] <jmcnaught> nickgaw: you should really consider
using SSH keys and disabling password authentication in SSH,
especially if you're the paranoid type that asks about paste
expiry
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6346 [21:36:40] <nickgaw> I don't care if my pastes expire or
not I was just wondering if it can be removed or not as you said no
big deal about sshd_config as it was a stock file.
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6348 [21:37:01] <greycat> If you go to the paste you created you
will see whether it expires or not.
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6355 [21:40:56] <teraflops> nickgaw: ptpb has vanity, expiration,
sunset, uuid, and deletion for fun and profit ;)
6356 [21:41:39] <teraflops> it also accepts files too including
little binaries video and image
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6358 [21:41:53] <teraflops> no I'm not selling it :P
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6360 [21:42:46] <Hard-Dev> The demo is free to download and play!
The full version is very very cheap, please buy it! It will payback
all my sweat and blood and tears and tribulations...
6361 [21:42:46] <Hard-Dev>
replaced-url
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*!*@2-229-33-39.ip194.fastwebnet.it
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6372 [21:44:52] <jhutchins> Probably a good idea to google your
proposed project name to see if it's already being used for
something else.
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6423 [22:12:32] <user696969> hi
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6429 [22:13:38] <user696969> whats the best way to install nvidia
drivers?
replaced-url
6430 [22:13:45] <user696969> or other way?
6431 [22:14:05] <greycat> Whatever the wiki says is probably the
best advice for *most* computers. But there's always some new
crazy thing.
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6440 [22:17:38] <jmcnaught> user696969: use the nvidia-detect
program mentioned on the debian wiki page to figure out which
version of the drivers you need. whatever you do, make sure to use
Debian packages (not installer scripts), and really consider if
nouveau is meeting your needs
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6500 [22:36:20] <whiskey_soda> Hey guys, if anyone's around I
could use some help with a botched apache2 install
6501 [22:36:47] <whiskey_soda> I did a purge on it and php5,
cleaned up the configs and still the same problem is persisting
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6509 [22:40:20] <arvind> hi, what is the name of the bot again
that can check backports and can list solution to certain things i.e
listening packages from different repo's or sort on size,
greycat did this once but I can't find it in the log anymore.
6510 [22:40:34] <greycat> judd
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6512 [22:41:17] <rattking> whiskey_soda: we are going to need some
details, such as exact error messages.
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6514 [22:41:59] <whiskey_soda> the apache2 service refuses to
start. it's saying there's a problem in
mods-enabled/userdir.conf line 1
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6518 [22:43:17] <whiskey_soda> invalid command a2enmod
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6522 [22:44:08] <rattking> whats on mods-enabled/userdir.conf line
1?
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6526 [22:45:47] <whiskey_soda> @rattking a2enmod userdir
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6533 [22:48:15] <rattking> hmm a2enmod is suppose to be in the
apache2 package.. I wonder where that went
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6536 [22:49:12] <whiskey_soda> i'm going to apt-get apache2
back and see if it's giving me the same error as the last few
times.
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6539 [22:50:29] <whiskey_soda> just tried installing it and
apache2.service failed
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6541 [22:50:38] <b6s3d> can't update my server:
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6542 [22:50:42] <b6s3d> what can i do?
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6545 [22:52:22] <whiskey_soda> tried to apt-get install a2enmod;
Unable to locate package.
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6555 [22:55:56] <rattking> a2enmod is suppose to be in the apache2
package --
replaced-url
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6558 [22:57:01] <rattking> maybe /usr/sbin is not in your path ??
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6562 [22:57:51] <whiskey_soda> going to check for the files right
now
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6564 [22:58:42] <whiskey_soda> the files exist in /usr/sbin/
6565 [22:58:52] <whiskey_soda> what do you mean by not in my path?
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6567 [22:59:09] <humbot> did you say mods-enabled/userdir.conf
contains an a2enmod command ?
6568 [22:59:13] <whiskey_soda> yep
6569 [22:59:25] <nullbyte_> for which year is schudle debian9
6570 [22:59:31] <humbot> are they supposed to work like that ?
6571 [22:59:33] <nullbyte_> maybe...
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6573 [22:59:53] <jmcnaught> nullbyte_: it gets frozen next month,
then release when there are no release critical bugs left
6574 [23:00:02] <jmcnaught> probably spring 2017
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6576 [23:00:08] <nullbyte_> mh
6577 [23:00:10] <nullbyte_> oks
6578 [23:00:15] <nkuttler> what? we aready get a freeze?
6579 [23:00:28] <nullbyte_> freezy:)
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6581 [23:00:53] <humbot> like, a2enmod is a command you only use
once
6582 [23:00:55] <whiskey_soda> the command is just a2enmod userdir
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6584 [23:01:12] <whiskey_soda> should i just remove it?
6585 [23:01:12] <b6s3d> can't update my server:
replaced-url
6586 [23:01:18] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
6587 [23:01:36] <rattking> I havent used apache in a long time but
I think you are suppose to run that once and not have it in a config
file
6588 [23:01:45] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda: please start using
replaced-url
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6590 [23:02:04] <humbot> that command just links
mods-available/userdir.conf into mods-enabled/
6591 [23:02:32] <jmcnaught> b6s3d: try a different mirror
6592 [23:02:38] <b6s3d> i did
6593 [23:03:42] <b6s3d> os: Debian Minimal Jessie 8.5
6594 [23:04:14] <jmcnaught> b6s3d: is that a template provided by
your VPS? there isn't a "Debian Minimal Jessie"
6595 [23:04:31] <jmcnaught> b6s3d: can you wget or curl those
URLs?
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6597 [23:04:45] <`Kevin> jmcnaught: it is, and from what i have
gathered his vps provider is questionable
6598 [23:04:51] <whiskey_soda> alright, ill keep it then. I'm
putting together a pastebin, anything else I should include other
than the file?
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6600 [23:05:00] <b6s3d> VPS: YES wget> ?
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6602 [23:05:20] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda: the commands that you
type that have errors, and their complete output
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6605 [23:05:38] <b6s3d> i questioned my vps provider, still
waiting for an answer
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6608 [23:05:50] <jmcnaught> b6s3d: anytime someone suggests a
command and you don't know it, type "man
that_command"
6609 [23:05:54] <b6s3d> i just think its weird that i can ssh into
the machine but can't get updates
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6611 [23:06:20] <b6s3d> i know wget, just don't know what you
want me to wget
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6615 [23:07:46] <jmcnaught> b6s3d: you showed a paste of apt-get
unable to connect to
replaced-url
6616 [23:07:47] <b6s3d> isis.rezometz.org? wtf
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6631 [23:13:08] <whiskey_soda> alright, here's the pastebin
6632 [23:13:08] <whiskey_soda>
replaced-url
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6635 [23:13:26] <b6s3d> well.. i can ping security.debian.org
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6637 [23:14:28] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda: your
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf should not have 'a2enmod
userdir' in it. Remove the lines above <IfModule
mod_userdir.c> (but leave that line)
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6640 [23:15:08] <whiskey_soda> sweet, thanks. will do. any idea
how it got there?
6641 [23:15:08] <TomTomTosch> b6s3d: is a proxy configured for
apt? most likely in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
6642 [23:15:19] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda: user error is my guess
:P
6643 [23:15:52] <whiskey_soda> jmcnaught: haha i'd like to
say so but i never screwed with that one
6644 [23:16:08] <b6s3d> root@hostname:~# ls /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
6645 [23:16:08] <b6s3d> 01autoremove 01autoremove-kernels
70debconf
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6647 [23:16:24] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda: have you read
/usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz? this explains the apache
config layout on Debian.
6648 [23:16:46] <whiskey_soda> I also have subsonic server
installed, maybe that did something on install?
6649 [23:16:55] <b6s3d> TomTomTosch ^
6650 [23:17:00] <whiskey_soda> jmcnaught: nope, that's
probably a good idea though
6651 [23:17:06] <missmbob> b6s3d: so..you're not on jessie,
right?
6652 [23:17:17] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda:
replaced-url
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6654 [23:17:34] <b6s3d> yes
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6656 [23:17:41] <b6s3d> how can i issue a command for you to
check?
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6658 [23:17:46] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda: what is subsonic?
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6662 [23:18:08] <missmbob> b6s3d: that autoremove file didnt come
into play until a couple of months ago irrc
6663 [23:18:12] <missmbob> iirc*
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6667 [23:19:23] <whiskey_soda> jmcnaught: its an audio streaming
service, it has a web interface on :4040 but I didn't think it
had anything to do with apache. Maybe java.
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6670 [23:19:42] <jmcnaught> missmbob: my jessie systems have
01autoremove and 01autoremove-kernels
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6672 [23:20:36] <TomTomTosch> b6s3d: inside /etc/apt/apt.conf is
also a possibility if that file exists. it would look something like
Acquire::http::Proxy "<proxy>"
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6674 [23:21:05] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda: if you installed
software that didn't come from the Debian archives, it's
possible that some of it is low quality and messed up your apache
configs. It's more likely that you made some sort of simple
mistake trying to use a2enmod
6675 [23:21:06] <whiskey_soda> jmcnaught: apache2 is active and
running! thanks man!
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6677 [23:21:16] <b6s3d> no TomTomTosch
6678 [23:21:34] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda: check out that
README.Debian.gz file
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6682 [23:22:24] <whiskey_soda> jmcnaught: I'm going to bank
on the former, i've never heard nything that sounds like
a2enmod until the apache2 error and I wasn't using apache2
before that.
6683 [23:22:40] <whiskey_soda> jmcnaught: definitely will do.
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6688 [23:23:55] <whiskey_soda> now does anyone want to give me the
safest way to have apache listening on a port other than 80?
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6693 [23:27:37] <teraflops> perhaps I'm loosing context but
it sounds like an xy question
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6706 [23:31:47] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda: what does it say about
ports in that README.Debian.gz?
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6713 [23:34:32] <teraflops> s/loosing/missing ^
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6719 [23:36:06] <hanshenrik_> what's the difference between
rename and mv?
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6724 [23:37:14] <sm00th> mv moves it
6725 [23:37:19] <hanshenrik_> and rename?
6726 [23:37:20] <sm00th> and renames at same time
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6728 [23:37:25] <hanshenrik_> ...
6729 [23:37:30] <hanshenrik_> mv does that too
6730 [23:37:39] <sm00th> i was talkinga bout mv, guess I
don't know what rename is
6731 [23:37:57] <hanshenrik_> i don't know either, but it
exists in /usr/bin/rename for some reason
6732 [23:38:01] <whiskey_soda> ports.conf and a virtualhost got it
up
6733 [23:38:06] <jmcnaught> rename is a perl script. it does have
a man page.
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6736 [23:38:59] <hanshenrik_> ohh, rename has the ability to
rename several files in a single invocation, it seems (not sure if
mv can do this with wildcards? )
6737 [23:39:13] <jmcnaught> whiskey_soda: nice. the official
apache httpd docs are also an excellent reference, but you need to
read them in the context of how Debian organizes the configuration
files (which is different than upstream)
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6740 [23:40:13] <sm00th> hanshenrik_, ah
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6742 [23:40:35] <whiskey_soda> jmcnaught: makes sense, i was able
to do more with poking around through /apache2/ than anything on the
net. I'm just going to have to dedicate some time to the docs.
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6745 [23:42:06] <hanshenrik_> whiskey_soda, not sure about apache,
but for nginx, the debian way is much better than upstream imo :p
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6748 [23:42:58] <hanshenrik_> (had some servers running upstream
config on fedora, changed them to debian-style configs manually lel)
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6764 [23:51:00] <whiskey_soda> yeesh, it's always one thing
into the next. Anyone have any idea why info.php is just showing the
code itself and not the php? php5 is definitely installed.
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6767 [23:51:43] <themill> the 'php5' package isn't
necessarily the one your httpd will make use of
6768 [23:52:14] <whiskey_soda> how would I go about fixing that?
6769 [23:52:18] <hanshenrik_> does bash have anything like
c's RETURN_FAILURE? or should i just return 1?
6770 [23:52:27] <hanshenrik_> i mean, EXIT_FAILURE
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6775 [23:55:52] <whiskey_soda> so httpd.conf seems to be
apache2.conf now. I'll keep digging.
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