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6[00:02:37] <notadrop> that explains why this one is so slow
7[00:03:00] <notadrop> anything a newb should know about oftc?
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15[00:08:12] <somiaj> !tell annadane why oftc
16[00:08:35] <somiaj> notadrop: this channel is slow when there aren't any support questions.
17[00:08:52] <somiaj> and the channel on freenode is often more active than freenode
18[00:08:55] <somiaj> than oftc...
19[00:09:15] <somiaj> !tell annadane about why oftc
20[00:09:27] <somiaj> !tell annadane about oftc move
21[00:09:31] <somiaj> annadane: arg...I'm bad at this
22[00:09:46] <annadane> !smack somiaj with trout
23[00:09:46] * dpkg smacks somiaj with trout upside the head.
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30[00:16:03] <notadrop> !smack the monkey
31[00:16:04] * dpkg smacks the monkey upside the head.
32[00:16:14] <notadrop> oh god I forgot what channel I was in
33[00:16:17] <notadrop> sorry!
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35[00:16:29] <notadrop> I just tabbed over and >>
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44[00:19:34] <themill> bolt: it could but it's already tl;dr.
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48[00:22:29] <sdk> annadane: yea my bad i'm on both oftc and freenode... :\
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57[00:31:42] <thejoker> i just noticed that chromium is in the main repo. doesn't it have some licensing issues and downloads proprietary blobs when starting?
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60[00:32:53] <themill> thejoker: no and no
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96[00:55:42] <stoned> I wonder
97[00:55:59] <stoned> !penixstrike annadane
98[00:55:59] <dpkg> A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking annadane to the ground and leaving a large wet spot.
99[00:56:16] <stoned> Still as silly as ever
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224[02:16:54] <RayReddington> god damnit is hicklen ever on here
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260[02:37:26] <rob_debian> Hi all, please, I forgot the command that lists a series of hardware information from the computer running Debian; this command has options to be displayed in several different colors at the prompt, depending on the flag or option you use (a number ranging from 0 to over 30 if I am not mistaken).
261[02:37:27] <rob_debian> Please, does anyone know which command is this ?
262[02:38:03] <themill> hwinfo?
263[02:38:18] <themill> or lshw
264[02:39:00] <rob_debian> hi themill, glad to see you here !!! That's a long time I don't see you, thanks for attending me !:)
265[02:39:10] <rob_debian> no themill, it's a long command
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268[02:40:44] <rob_debian> themil, it's a long command, and it specifies the drive you are using ( for example..... /sda, at the end of the command)
269[02:45:10] <awal1> hdparm?
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272[02:47:35] <awal1> btw, hdparm should be used carefully, if any
273[02:49:24] <rob_debian> hi awal1, no, it's not this command
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279[02:54:03] <awal1> if i open a root shell then he x terminal emulator crashes, bcoz of x reason, the root session ends or not?
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281[02:54:28] <awal1> asked before yet but had wi'fi issue and lost connection
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364[03:43:44] <edju> All of a sudden, I can't print pdf files in portrait mode. No matter which package I use - okular, evince, xpdf - none will use portrait, no matter the settings. My word processor prints portrait, as will any plain text file. Only pdf presents this problem. If this makes sense to anyone, I'd appreciate any clues. hints, pointers, etc.
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416[04:24:05] <rue_shop4> what provides the "Activites" "launcher" in debian, I want it removed for gnome-panel
417[04:24:11] <rue_shop4> I dont know what to rempve
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419[04:25:23] <rue_shop4> oh IS it a new version of gnome?
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468[04:56:19] <clumsy_boy> hello, i'm having issues with my current display resolution, it's not detected, im currently using debian stretch, i've used xrandr to set the resolution manually, but im not satisfied with this
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476[05:00:59] <schue> rob_debian: lspci?
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498[05:11:18] <Canucktux> clumsy_boy: would you like it saved between boots?
499[05:11:37] <clumsy_boy> yes
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502[05:11:56] <Canucktux> is it a standard display setting or did you have to manually add it with xrandr?
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506[05:13:08] <clumsy_boy> Canucktux, i had to manually add it through xrandr, i've even isntalled propietary drivers, also i've tried making a script that runs when gmd3 starts, but doesnt work or im doing it incorrectly
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508[05:13:49] <Canucktux> I'm assuming you are using nvidia drivers then?
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510[05:14:09] <clumsy_boy> Canucktux, amd
511[05:14:19] <Canucktux> cool
512[05:14:57] <Canucktux> there is a little bit of documentation here replaced-url
513[05:15:07] <clumsy_boy> Canucktux, it's an onboard video chipset
514[05:15:13] <clumsy_boy> so idk if it supported by debian
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517[05:16:37] <Canucktux> proprietary drivers can be tricky, but if you can configure it with xrandr you should be able to configure with anything that touches RandR
518[05:16:50] <clumsy_boy> ty i'll check it out
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520[05:17:21] <Canucktux> if it isn't too essential, could you try making a script that runs when you log on?
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523[05:18:15] <Canucktux> For my personal system I used xfce4-display-manager to set it to a supported video mode and it automagically has it work when I log on
524[05:18:53] <Canucktux> but the login manager still has one monitor at a ¼res and the other sideways, though it works enough for me to type my password in
525[05:19:54] <gubernator> How to change default file manager? Debian 9 and Gnome
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527[05:20:01] <clumsy_boy> Canucktux, i did make a script but only worked after loging
528[05:20:18] <Canucktux> ok, that's a PITA then
529[05:20:47] <clumsy_boy> Canucktux, i remember placing the xrandr commands on .profile
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532[05:22:36] <Canucktux> clumsy_boy: you can write a small tidbit of xorg.conf.d that just takes care of your monitor replaced-url
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534[05:24:02] <Canucktux> so you make file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ called 20-monitor.conf
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536[05:25:32] <Canucktux> and fill in the variables with the same things you normally had xrandr do for you
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542[05:29:36] <purplez> hey yall im trying to install steam on stretch(amd64)
543[05:29:58] <purplez> enabled multiarch but it's asking for stuff that depends on libc6:i386
544[05:30:39] <purplez> when i try installing that it's saying a ton of stuff is going to get removed (around 3gb worth of what appears to be the amd64 versions of the packages
545[05:30:43] <purplez> is this normal?
546[05:31:38] <Canucktux> uh, sounds bad
547[05:32:32] <purplez> replaced-url
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549[05:33:47] <purplez> not finding any similar situations online. does anyone know what could cause this?
550[05:34:03] <Canucktux> also why o you need 32bit GCC?
551[05:34:21] <clumsy_boy> oh god
552[05:34:26] <clumsy_boy> that seems overkill
553[05:34:54] <Canucktux> TIL apt makes you type extra if you really want to brick your system
554[05:35:14] <clumsy_boy> maybe because steam only runs on 32bits?
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556[05:35:34] <Canucktux> yeah, but it shouldn't look like that
557[05:35:42] <Canucktux> purplez: you followed this guide right? replaced-url
558[05:36:12] <purplez> clumsy_boy: yeah 32bit only for steam
559[05:36:55] <purplez> Canucktux: yes i followed that guide
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562[05:37:42] <purplez> replaced-url
563[05:37:50] <purplez> that's the origin of it
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566[05:38:16] <Canucktux> so you enabled the other arch, updated, installed shit, then asked to install steam right?
567[05:38:44] <Canucktux> if you forgot to upgrade before steam stuff might get messy
568[05:39:36] <purplez> enabled multiarch like a week ago; would like to say i did do the upgrade before trying to install steam but not 100% anymore
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571[05:40:01] <Canucktux> well cancel this shit
572[05:40:14] <Canucktux> and double check and update/upgrade
573[05:41:02] <purplez> i can run update/upgrade and then try to install steam once again, but that doesn't change the output
574[05:41:48] <Canucktux> and upgrade isn't asking mentioning removing shit or holding stuff back?
575[05:42:03] <Canucktux> because you can do full-upgrade then
576[05:42:06] <purplez> nope
577[05:42:20] <purplez> replaced-url
578[05:42:45] <purplez> that's the puzzling part because i faintly remember the behavior you're describing last time i did this on a clean install
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713[07:06:08] <leibniz> npp
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753[07:41:37] <Robby> security.debian.org (2a02:16a8:dc41:100::233) having issues?
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755[07:42:31] <Robby> trying to update but apt-get is stuck
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758[07:43:12] <Robby> hm or it may be the servers connection, the same problem happens for 2001:a78:5:1:216:35ff:fe7f:6ceb
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763[07:47:34] <darxmurf_> morning folks
764[07:47:39] <adso> g'morning
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766[07:48:18] <Blommie01> morning
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769[07:49:09] <intx> denyhosts removed in latest stable?
770[07:49:13] <somiaj> Robby: could it be the ipv6 network you are on?
771[07:49:26] <somiaj> ,v denyhosts
772[07:49:27] <judd> Package: denyhosts on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.6-10+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2.6-10+deb7u3; sid: 2.10-2
773[07:49:42] <somiaj> intx: looks like it was removed in jessie, so this was a while ago, try fail2ban?
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775[07:49:55] <aci_> +1 fail2ban
776[07:50:04] <aci_> ( and ufw )=
777[07:50:11] <Robby> somiaj: yeah, I think the IPv6 is scuffed somehow, it went through now and is downloading updates at a whopping 61KB/s
778[07:50:29] <intx> I like the shared list in denyhosts
779[07:50:45] <Blommie01> fail2ban does the job
780[07:50:57] <aci_> fail2ban is quicker and have a better scaleability
781[07:51:20] <aci_> a huge denyhosts file isn't optimal
782[07:51:24] <somiaj> intx: looks like upstream of denyhosts died, there maybe some current activity as a newer version has now been put back in sid, unsure if it will make it to buster.
783[07:51:37] <somiaj> intx: replaced-url
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785[07:52:03] <somiaj> replaced-url
786[07:52:04] <judd> Bug replaced-url
787[07:52:06] <intx> thanks
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791[07:54:19] <Robby> ah, nope, its doing for the mirror at 217.196.149.233 as well
792[07:54:26] <Robby> IPv4 affected as well
793[07:54:55] <somiaj> could it be something with your network in general then?
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795[07:55:01] <Robby> maybe
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797[07:55:10] <Robby> our host didn't post any updates
798[07:55:11] <somiaj> I don't have any big security update, so I can't really test here, but security.debian.org seems to be working for me
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800[07:55:41] <Robby> yeah, I can ping fine, no packetloss or anything
801[07:55:46] <Robby> its strange
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805[07:56:20] <somiaj> Robby: actually I'm having trouble with apt update with security.d.o, maybe there is something wrong with the mirror.
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807[07:56:35] <Robby> oh
808[07:56:46] <Robby> but what are the chance of it happening with multiple mirrors?
809[07:56:55] <Robby> so far theres 3 mirros now (3 IPs)
810[07:56:59] <Robby> mirrors*
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812[07:57:12] <Robby> all 3 give issues
813[07:57:40] <Robby> are they being ddossed maybe
814[07:57:58] <Robby> starving resources or something, because ping times look fine
815[07:58:14] <somiaj> unsure, I was just going to wait it out.
816[07:58:39] <somiaj> but it does appear that something is wrong.
817[07:59:01] <Robby> ok so its not just me then
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829[08:01:55] <themill> security.d.o gets quite a work out when big and widely installed packages get updated
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831[08:02:35] <Robby> I suppose
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833[08:02:41] <Robby> but right now its just terrible
834[08:02:49] <Robby> worse than a work out
835[08:03:22] <Robby> one machine managed to fetch its packages and update
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837[08:03:33] <Robby> others tried a few mirrors and apt-get gave up
838[08:03:44] <b1nny> looks like I'm not the only one :)
839[08:04:04] <themill> deb.debian.org/debian-security is a thing
840[08:04:11] <Robby> yeah, b1nny :)
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852[08:10:26] <Robby> seems fixed now
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855[08:10:51] <Robby> no more errors or slow speeds
856[08:11:15] <Blommie01> did it fixed it self or did you do anything ?
857[08:11:40] <Robby> it fixed itself
858[08:11:47] <b1nny> it's fast for me too now, didn't change anything
859[08:11:55] <Robby> weird
860[08:12:04] <b1nny> Robby: where are you located, roughly?
861[08:12:13] <Robby> well, the server is in germany
862[08:12:36] <adso> hi all, i'm currently thinking about hardening my debian install. i know there is a lengthy and thorough official document, but i'm guessing it may be a little verbose and potentially outdated.
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864[08:12:52] <Blommie01> The Netherands is working just fine
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866[08:13:08] <adso> does anyone have a concise overview of certain thigns that could be looked at from the perspective of hardening a debian laptop/desktop install that doesn't need to be used in a server capacity whatsoever?
867[08:13:45] <b1nny> Blommie01: I was connecting to "212.211.132.250" which gave me a timeout it seems
868[08:13:49] <b1nny> (german IP)
869[08:14:10] <Robby> to me it looks like it was a web server resource starvation attack or something
870[08:14:19] <Robby> aimed at all the mirrors
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872[08:14:53] <Robby> because network-wise, ping/trace was fine
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874[08:15:27] <Robby> and now all of them magically work fine, just like that
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877[08:16:43] <Robby> or maybe it was something else, but it looked an awful lot like that, as someone did it to us once and those were the symptoms
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890[08:22:53] <novilog> Hello, running Debian Stretch with the gnome3 desktop environment installed. Trying desperately to find a way to rotate at random the lockscreen image that isn't a hacked-together user script that hiccups and eats too much cpu time. Does anyone know if there's a way you can make a copy of the adwaita-timed.xml file found in /usr/share/backgrounds/gnome/ behave this way? Or can you only have it select
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892[08:22:59] <novilog> chronologically from an explicit list?
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894[08:23:29] <novilog> Not rotate, but rather transition from one image to another within a particular parent directory at random.
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911[08:36:52] <ecstoian> good morning !
912[08:37:37] <novilog> ecstoian: Good morning
913[08:37:40] <ecstoian> my Linux system with luks-encrypted filesystems / and /var/directory complains, on boot, that: the disk drive for /var/directory is not ready yet or not present. any idea what could cause this issue ? the partition works when mounted manually with cryptsetup and mount
914[08:38:09] <ecstoian> hi novilog
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956[09:09:12] <darxmurf> when I install from backports, it should install dependencies too no ?
957[09:09:21] <darxmurf> like: apt-get install -t stretch-backports nvidia-driver
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1014[09:33:59] <somiaj> darxmurf: It is sometimes suggested to install the stretch version before the stretch-backports version, to ensure you get the depends from stretch, and only get the ones you absoultly need from stretch-backports (since the -t flag messing with pinning and what packages would get chosen)
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1016[09:34:26] <somiaj> darxmurf: but yes, depends will be installed, the -t stretch-backports just pins stretch-backports at 990, making it default for apt's decisions.
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1021[09:36:37] <darxmurf> hmm
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1023[09:36:48] <darxmurf> okay I'll try that
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1065[09:56:37] <iboy> hello
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1067[09:56:48] <bazhang> hi
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1070[09:57:10] <no_gravity> Good Morning
1071[09:57:18] <no_gravity> Where is the X11 config file these days?
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1074[09:57:47] <iboy> how are you everyone?
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1077[09:58:11] <imyself> Good
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1079[09:58:35] <alkisg> imyself: you can still use /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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1082[09:59:03] <imyself> alkisg: There is no such thing here.
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1084[09:59:23] <Kelsar> imyself: usually you don't need one at all
1085[09:59:23] <alkisg> imyself: indeed, you manually create it only when you need it
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1089[10:00:42] <imyself> alkisg: There is an Xwrapper.config maybe I should use that?
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1091[10:01:17] <alkisg> imyself: no. What are you trying to do?
1092[10:01:31] <imyself> alkisg: I want to make it so that every application can use the display.
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1094[10:01:56] <alkisg> All applications can use the display. What's the problem that you see?
1095[10:02:04] <imyself> I'm often getting 'No protocol specified Could not parse arguments: Cannot open display:' when trying to start nautilus from the terminal.
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1097[10:02:10] <jelly> imyself: usually you want just to change a small part of xorg.conf. Such a small part can be put as a separate file into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory. Create it manually if it does not exist.
1098[10:02:23] <alkisg> imyself: are you using ssh to login to that terminal?
1099[10:02:40] <imyself> alkisg: No, just a terminal on my local machine.
1100[10:02:45] <alkisg> imyself: $DISPLAY and $XAUTHORITY should be defined. Xorg.conf is not related to this issue.
1101[10:03:05] <imyself> echo $DISPLAY gives me :0.0
1102[10:03:14] <alkisg> And can you run xterm or not?
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1104[10:03:24] <imyself> The program 'xterm' is currently not installed.
1105[10:03:32] <jelly> imyself: how do you start X? Which debian release is this?
1106[10:03:41] <alkisg> ok, what about xdpyinfo
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1108[10:03:52] <alkisg> Or xrandr
1109[10:04:01] <jelly> (also, XAUTHORITY is optional, but that is also not really important)
1110[10:04:01] <imyself> alkisg: No protocol specified xdpyinfo: unable to open display ":0.0".
1111[10:04:33] <alkisg> And you have another terminal where you can run X as the same user?
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1113[10:04:35] <imyself> Sometimes I also get this: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
1114[10:04:38] <alkisg> *you can run xrandr
1115[10:04:57] <imyself> alkisg: xrandr gives me 'No protocol specified Can't open display :0.0'
1116[10:05:24] <imyself> When I su to the user that started X in the terminal, I *can* start nautilus.
1117[10:05:38] <imyself> But root can't. Sometimes. Most of the time he can.
1118[10:05:47] <alkisg> imyself: right, that's what you're not mentioning. So you're trying to use DISPLAY from another user?
1119[10:05:57] <imyself> alkisg: I think so.
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1122[10:06:10] <alkisg> Why do you need that? What's the actual use case?
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1124[10:06:25] <imyself> alkisg: I often start applications as root from the terminal.
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1128[10:07:44] <alkisg> imyself: but root is not "another user" are you trying to run xrandr as root and you don't have access?
1129[10:07:48] <imyself> Strangely it works 95% of the time. But sometimes it does not. And then the only solution I found so far is to reboot the machine.
1130[10:08:19] <alkisg> As long as DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY are set properly, both the initial user and root should have xorg access
1131[10:08:19] <imyself> alkisg: When I type 'xrandr' in the root terminal, I get 'No protocol specified Can't open display :0.0'
1132[10:08:35] <alkisg> And what does echo $XAUTHORITY say at that point?
1133[10:09:08] <imyself> alkisg: /tmp/<some-identifier>/.Xauthority
1134[10:10:05] <imyself> It's the same identifier that the other user gets who *can* start gui applications.
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1138[10:10:43] <jelly> imyself: how do you start X? Which debian release is this? How do you open that root shell?
1139[10:10:43] <alkisg> Why /tmp and not /home?
1140[10:10:47] <alkisg> What's the strange thing there?
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1142[10:10:57] <imyself> alkisg: I don't know.
1143[10:11:07] <jelly> imyself: can apps start as a user that started this X session, not root?
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1146[10:12:10] <imyself> jelly: When I 'su theuserthatstartedx' then afterwards I can start gui applications, yes.
1147[10:12:26] <jelly> that's expected.
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1149[10:12:54] <jelly> wait, you _can_ start?
1150[10:12:59] <hassoon[work]> 'morning
1151[10:13:12] <imyself> jelly: Who 'you'? userX can. But root can't.
1152[10:13:37] <imyself> hassoon[work]: Good Morning. Good to see you!
1153[10:13:48] <hassoon[work]> imyself: me too
1154[10:13:56] <jelly> imyself: who's userX? Can the user that logged in and started the X session run X apps or not?
1155[10:14:04] <hassoon[work]> imyself: have we met ?
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1157[10:14:11] <imyself> jelly: Yes, that's the user that I call userX.
1158[10:14:15] <jelly> imyself: and again, how precisely do you start X and which Debian release is this?
1159[10:14:19] <imyself> jelly: I only have 2 users: userX and root.
1160[10:14:39] <imyself> jelly: I do not start X manually. It's started when I boot the machine.
1161[10:14:47] <imyself> jelly: After I log in as userX.
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1163[10:15:07] <jelly> so you have a display manager running, good
1164[10:15:16] <jelly> imyself: and which Debian release is this?
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1166[10:15:28] <imyself> jelly: Yeah, the Mate Desktop.
1167[10:15:47] <jelly> imyself: what does "lsb_release -sc" say?
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1170[10:17:35] <imyself> Hmm... I just noticed that the file $XAUTHORITY points to does not exist.
1171[10:18:30] <jelly> anyway, if you want to run X apps as different user use gksu/gksudo instead of plain su, or you might have to deal with those two env. vars manually
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1173[10:18:50] <imyself> jelly: Strangely it works 95% of the time.
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1176[10:19:16] <imyself> I wonder why it does work for userX as he has the same non-existing path in $XAUTHORITY.
1177[10:19:49] <jelly> are you sure it does not exist for the normal user
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1179[10:20:10] <imyself> jelly: Yes
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1183[10:21:48] <imyself> There exists an .Xauthority file in another directory in /tmp/ though.
1184[10:22:00] <imyself> Let's see what happens when I change $XAUTHORITY to that one...
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1186[10:22:39] <imyself> Now it works!
1187[10:22:46] <imyself> Solved! Kinda!
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1195[10:27:27] <imyself> Now I just need to figure out what I wanted to do originally...
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1212[10:39:49] <g0zzy1> Just wondering how it works if you configure a new luks partition (say /home) _after_ installation of the desktop. How does the system cope with needing a passphrase to get into it?
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1223[10:47:41] <iboy> hello
1224[10:47:53] <bazhang> hi
1225[10:48:27] <iboy> how are you?
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1229[10:50:08] <Aquarius_> Hello. What causes eye strain under linux?
1230[10:50:22] <Haohmaru> o_O
1231[10:50:35] <Aquarius_> don't look surprised, the issue has been around for ages
1232[10:50:46] <Aquarius_> the problem is, very few notice it for some reason
1233[10:50:53] <Haohmaru> can you give me a screenshot of your linux?
1234[10:51:10] <owl14> so yesterday systemd decided to prevent lightdm from booting, then it autoconfigured all my init scripts without asking me and today it is managing my email box for me. what the FUCK??? debian maintainers, can you PLEASE prevent installation of that cancer from our debian installations?
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1236[10:51:29] <Aquarius_> The screen would look exactly the same as on windows, there is no point really. Also, it's not font related at all, but many people are fooled into thinking it is, actually
1237[10:51:35] <themill> owl14: try harder
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1240[10:51:55] <Aquarius_> Fonts really look a bit worse on linux than on windows, but that's not what's causing it at the end of the day
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1242[10:52:05] <owl14> go eat poettering shit and rim his ass, themill
1243[10:52:07] <Haohmaru> Aquarius_ CRT monitor?
1244[10:52:12] <Aquarius_> nope, LCD
1245[10:52:16] <owl14> themill is a known CIA nigger
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1251[10:52:39] <Aquarius_> and i've run linux on two different monitors, no difference
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1253[10:52:51] <Aquarius_> Also, i've used different videocards and videodrivers. No change
1254[10:53:00] <Haohmaru> still, Aquarius_ check the refresh rate and other such things
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1256[10:53:06] <owl13> ask CIA to teach you making bans properly first, themill
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1261[10:53:50] <notowl> lol
1262[10:53:52] <Haohmaru> hahaha
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1267[10:54:13] <Haohmaru> this guy is on some funny pills
1268[10:54:34] <somiaj> Haohmaru: no need to add to the noise.
1269[10:54:52] <Aquarius_> Thanks, but i've certainly done all that... i mean, naturally, i would, i'm not a beginner. There is just something about every linux distro that makes it different than windows when it comes to video output. It feels almost as though the refresh rate is low, but it's something else and it's very hard to trace the issue because you don't even know what to look for...
1270[10:55:08] <Aquarius_> some say the issue is non-existent on Ubuntu and Elementary OS.. i haven't tried that yet
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1272[10:55:12] <notowl> why are you so afraid of 'the noise', somiaj?
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1277[10:56:46] <Aquarius_> Some say it may have something to do with monitor's PWM or dithering. I wouldn't know either way, but i decided i should first before i install debian and hurt my eyes again
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1279[10:57:06] <Aquarius_> Just don't think i'm making things up, this is real. Only some people are not sensitive to it or they are somehow lucky to not have the issue *shrug*
1280[10:57:15] <Haohmaru> Aquarius_ well, i'm just guessing here, but it still *could* be effectively different monitor settings in windows vs linux, even if the "resolution x refreshrate" are "the same", there are multiple ways to get a given resolution/rate with VGA (check cve)
1281[10:57:25] <Haohmaru> ehm i meant "cvt" not cve
1282[10:57:28] <Aquarius_> if you google the prob you may run into a handful of similar posts regarding this
1283[10:58:07] <Aquarius_> thanks Haohmaru
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1285[10:58:19] <Haohmaru> is it VGA?
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1289[10:58:45] <Aquarius_> HDMI
1290[10:58:48] <Haohmaru> i guess i really meant "analog", versus digital (hdmi/dvi/displayport)
1291[10:58:57] <Haohmaru> ah, then it probably can't be that
1292[10:59:12] <Aquarius_> like i said, none of my stuff is that dated
1293[10:59:21] <Haohmaru> i've never noticed such a thing
1294[10:59:29] <Aquarius_> then again, i probably wouldn't have this issue if i were using an old CRT monitor
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1296[10:59:49] <Aquarius_> believe it or not, i think CRTs handle it better
1297[10:59:49] <Haohmaru> yes, CRTs at decent refresh rate rock
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1300[11:00:25] <Aquarius_> and there is something about LCDs that make this tangible.. a little too much i'm afraid
1301[11:00:41] <Aquarius_> Color profile, PWM, dithering... no idea. Perhaps a combo of all
1302[11:01:06] <Haohmaru> but on the other hand, i'm a little weird, i prefer raster fonts, i also change the themes/colors because typically i don't like the default ones
1303[11:01:18] <Aquarius_> i know, i do the same even on windows
1304[11:01:34] <Haohmaru> well, someone needs to look into this, to see if it can be measured
1305[11:01:39] <Aquarius_> I have XP like fonts. Always substitute the ugly Segoe with Tahoma and turn off antialiasing
1306[11:02:31] <Aquarius_> only it is hard to tweak Win 7 into using antialiasing selectively
1307[11:02:39] <somiaj> I don't really see a debian support issue here.
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1309[11:02:47] <Haohmaru> i'm curious but i have no way to test this, as i don't think i've ever felt any eye strain from "linux"
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1311[11:02:59] <metax> how is your XP like font called? i'd like to use it
1312[11:03:17] <Aquarius_> Tahoma
1313[11:03:43] <metax> oh yeah , read 'and' instead of 'with' sorry
1314[11:04:10] <Aquarius_> Haohmaru: are you using laptop?
1315[11:04:16] <Haohmaru> hell no
1316[11:04:21] <Haohmaru> i hate those things ;]
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1318[11:04:50] <Aquarius_> i noticed that the issue is not apparent on laptops.. at least on this Lenovo one
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1322[11:06:23] <Aquarius_> what do you call the fonts that look ugly without antialiasing?
1323[11:06:43] <Haohmaru> vector fonts
1324[11:06:46] <Aquarius_> i never invested my time into this, hence i'm a little font illiterate
1325[11:06:48] <Aquarius_> ah.. right
1326[11:06:55] <g0zzy1> Just wondering how it works if you configure a new luks partition (say /home) _after_ installation of the desktop. How does the system cope with needing a passphrase to get into it?
1327[11:07:58] <Haohmaru> i like vector fonts for web/programs, but for text editors (especially for code and such), and also for IRC - i use monospaced raster fonts
1328[11:08:04] <Aquarius_> well, what i liked about XP is that it applies antialiasing to those regardless which Win 7 can't do or you have to do a lot of tweaking
1329[11:08:43] <somiaj> g0zzy1: I would imangine if things are setup correctly, it would ask for the passphrase when it tried to mount it. Though I have little experience with that.
1330[11:08:45] <Haohmaru> win7 has vector font tuning wizard thing
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1333[11:09:30] <Haohmaru> it can do the antialiasing in a bunch of different ways, with LCD-related compensations and hacks
1334[11:09:32] <Aquarius_> if you mean the cleartype thing then i could never get it to work right
1335[11:09:35] <somiaj> Aquarius_: I don't really see a debian support question, and you are mostly talking about windows now.
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1337[11:10:13] <Haohmaru> yeah, Aquarius_ you need to get some kind of measurable evidence or testcase so we (or someone) can look into it
1338[11:10:35] <Aquarius_> evidence to what exactly?
1339[11:10:40] <Aquarius_> eye strain issue?
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1341[11:10:50] <Haohmaru> yeah
1342[11:11:12] <Haohmaru> clearly no one seems to have an explanation
1343[11:11:24] <g0zzy1> Right, i mean any app that needs to read config files would need to know how to say "mount my config volume" wouldn't it?
1344[11:11:45] <Aquarius_> well, that's the thing.. it's practically impossible, and even if you were right here with me and took a look at it yourself you might not notice it like many others
1345[11:11:54] <somiaj> even then, I doubt #debian can help much in something that can't clearly be quanitfied, if it is a kernel/driver/xorg issue, that might be a better place to explore this issue.
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1347[11:13:12] <somiaj> It could also be something more subtle like you just spend more time reading when using linux, or how the ui displays info.
1348[11:13:15] <Haohmaru> if you notice it and other people don't, then it's possible that you are more sensitive to a certain effect, and there may be ways to test yourself about such sensitivities
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1350[11:13:55] <somiaj> g0zzy1: sure, you'll have to tell /etc/fstab to mount this /home partition. I would expect that when it does, it would ask for the passphrase.
1351[11:14:18] <clumsy_boy> hello, im currently using gdm3 as display manager, how can i make some xrandr commands run when the manager starts?
1352[11:15:07] <g0zzy1> Yes. I suppose i could test it with a live distro and put luks partition on a stick
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1355[11:15:45] <Aquarius_> I could also assert with full certainty that it's not a placebo.. too strong an effect for just an expectation. Anyways, i guess i'll fiddle a bit with distros, cause it's been a while since i used linux the last time. Maybe something got fixed in the long run
1356[11:16:40] <Aquarius_> thanks again Haohmaru
1357[11:17:04] <Lachezar> Hey all. Is there any tool that allows me to check the files installed against their expected source? I'm having doubts that one/some the the system file/s has/have been changed by 'not me'.
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1359[11:17:30] <JustASlacker> any intrusion detection system, any hash algorithm
1360[11:17:30] <somiaj> clumsy_boy: What type of xrandr commands? Many of them you can instead put in a xorg.conf config file, you could also just create an autostart .desktop file to run them for your user.
1361[11:17:33] <rudi_s> Lachezar: debsums
1362[11:17:49] <rudi_s> (Assuming we're talking about a non-malicious change.)
1363[11:18:30] <rudi_s> (If you're assuming an attack, shutdown the system, boot from a rescue-system, image the disk and perform your analysis on the result.)
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1365[11:19:33] <somiaj> g0zzy1: replaced-url
1366[11:20:04] <Lachezar> rudi_s: I'm not sure about whether it's malicious, also I'm not sure it's there in the first place :). Need to check (ish).
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1371[11:22:30] <Lachezar> rudi_s: I had a weird crash in udiskd, and there were some weird locale settings in the core, so I'm checking.
1372[11:23:07] <Lachezar> rudi_s: Doesn't seem to be the case though. debsums turned up nothing. 10x for the pointer though.
1373[11:23:16] <rudi_s> Lachezar: Well, debsums will detect any changes to installed files unless somebody doesn't want you to notice them.
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1375[11:24:03] <Lachezar> rudi_s: Yes, by changing the /var/lib/dpkg/info/package.md5sums file I suspect/
1376[11:24:14] <rudi_s> Yeah.
1377[11:24:19] <tomlukeywood_> Does anyone know how many active members of volunteers the Debian project has?
1378[11:24:22] <Lachezar> rudi_s: That type of adversary would be beyond my abilities.
1379[11:24:35] * tomlukeywood_ meant to use or not of
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1383[11:25:48] <tomlukeywood_> I ask as i am giving a talk on free software and it would be a good statistic to state.
1384[11:26:48] <rudi_s> Lachezar: The issue is not only package.md5sums (which you could get from the original packages) but that an attacker has many ways to inject random code/hooks into the system (and you can't trust the running system at all).
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1386[11:27:30] <Lachezar> tomlukeywood_: replaced-url
1387[11:27:35] <tomlukeywood_> Lachezar: thanks
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1389[11:28:48] <Lachezar> rudi_s: True. I suspect the only way to better check would be to unhook the drives and perform the check on a different machine.
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1392[11:29:33] <rudi_s> Lachezar: Yeah.
1393[11:29:56] <lowin> Hello. In the debian installer, how can I access programs like mkfs in the shell? they are not in the path but how does the installer itself use them to install the system?
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1396[11:31:24] <clumsy_boy> somiaj, sorry for answering late, im just changing display resolution with xrandr, also i do not have an xorg.conf for some reason, and it really bothers me because i dont know how to "make" one, and im fairly new in linux
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1399[11:33:58] <somiaj> clumsy_boy: most things these days are auto detected. Sometimes things are not detected as the user wants. you could write a few lines of xorg.conf to make xorg default to the resolution you want, or as I said, just write an autostart destkop file for your display manager. YOu shoudl be able to look up the syntax on google. And then type in the xrandr command you want to run.
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1402[11:37:01] <rudi_s> lowin: You could try the rescue mode. I've never understood why the installer doesn't make this easily accessible.
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1404[11:38:48] <clumsy_boy> somiaj, can you enlighten me a bit? is an autostart file basically a script? also does it get executed before i log in, or after i log in? because i'd like it to be the first
1405[11:39:01] <clumsy_boy> somiaj, thanks for your help though
1406[11:39:08] <somiaj> after, you would have to configure xorg to be before.
1407[11:39:42] <lowin> rudi_s, Well I didn't have an installed system to "rescue" with, but I think opening installer's partition manager triggered the required binaries to become available
1408[11:40:10] <somiaj> different pieces are loaded via .udebs during the install process.
1409[11:40:25] <lowin> sadly there is no ntfs write support as I feard
1410[11:40:29] <lowin> feared*
1411[11:40:50] <somiaj> oh you are wanting ntfs support during the install?
1412[11:40:53] <clumsy_boy> somiaj, btw i try to make a conf with xorg/X -config but it just doesnt work
1413[11:41:09] <rudi_s> lowin: I meant the "rescue" mode of the installer, you can select it directly after booting into it.
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1415[11:41:24] <rudi_s> But yes, triggering the respective stage will also load it.
1416[11:41:32] <lowin> somiaj, Yeah I was hoping to install debian into a virtual hdd in a ntfs partition. it was a longshot I guess
1417[11:41:47] <rudi_s> ntfs-3g provides write support, but that's not in the installer.
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1419[11:42:13] <lowin> rudi_s, huh, I went directly into expert install mode. I guess it was a failed attempt anyway, so it doesn't matter
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1421[11:42:43] <rudi_s> lowin: Where you select "expert install mode" there also an option "rescue".
1422[11:42:57] <lowin> Yeah I've seen it before
1423[11:43:46] <metax> is there way to make systemd run sysv init scripts?
1424[11:44:16] <somiaj> metax: it already does that by default if they have proper LSB headers
1425[11:44:29] <somiaj> metax: you also need to not have a systemd unit of the same name
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1427[11:45:23] <somiaj> lowin: seems like a convoluted setup. Why? And why not just use virtulaziation software in windows for this.
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1433[11:50:53] * g0zzy1 seems to remember ntfs modules are loadable in the installer
1434[11:50:54] <metax> okay thanks
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1437[11:51:16] <somiaj> g0zzy1: but you would need ntfs-3g to get write support.
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1440[11:51:55] <g0zzy1> Can't remember now what it offers.. I know i've seen 'ntfs'
1441[11:52:04] <rudi_s> read-only
1442[11:52:11] <g0zzy1> Ah
1443[11:52:27] <somiaj> the ntfs module in the kernel is mostly read only (it can write, but only if modifing single bits in a file and not changing its size)
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1446[11:52:47] <somiaj> well that was last I knew, and then with ntfs-3g, I don't think there has been much push to develope the native ntfs anymore.
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1449[11:54:22] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
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1452[11:55:01] <g0zzy1> Oh yes, kernel-level is read-only
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1458[11:57:44] <lowin> somiaj, My friend's laptop is supper full so he couldn't free up a partition for dual booting, I thought I could hack debian into a vhd like this. virtual machine is too slow for our purposes
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1463[11:59:48] <metax> how can i make systemctl output status on start/restart of services? when i do systemctl tor restart it just does it silently and i am not aware whether it's successful or not
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1467[12:00:18] <metax> typo, systemctl restart tor, but anyway
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1475[12:04:17] <g0zzy1> Why not make yourself an alias and stop with systemctl status tor.service?
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1491[12:20:36] <metax> well it's not only tor that i would like to see status messages from
1492[12:20:56] <metax> i was mentioning all services
1493[12:21:03] <metax> tor was just an example
1494[12:21:32] <somiaj> systemctl only sends info to systemd to preform the task, and doens't wait around for output. use systemctl status service name to get output.
1495[12:21:35] <somiaj> or journalctl
1496[12:22:05] <somiaj> There is some reason why it is preferable to not have to wait for output, but yes it does require running a second command to see the status
1497[12:22:36] <metax> is there way to instantly receive output from the start/restart commands such as service in sysv does?
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1501[12:24:12] <somiaj> I would just suggest getting use to using systemctl status, I find it nicer than the output sysv produces.
1502[12:24:50] <metax> thanks but i don't find it nicer
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1504[12:25:23] <lovingdragoness> Hey ^^
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1506[12:27:15] <somiaj> metax: just run service foo restart, that will trigger systmctl, it won't give you the same output as sysv scripts, but it will be similar, it will tell you it is doing something (which is about as much output as many sysv scripts gave anyways)
1507[12:28:00] <metax> `service` with systemd installed doesn't produce any output
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1509[12:28:20] <somiaj> hmm, I thought it would say using systemctl, maybe that was in jessie...yea I just tested, I recall it having more output
1510[12:28:36] <metax> it was in previous versions
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1512[12:29:45] <somiaj> replaced-url
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1514[12:30:54] <somiaj> replaced-url
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1519[12:35:42] <somiaj> metax: but maybe a feature will be added, it is taged as a feature request.
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1521[12:36:58] <metax> yes i see, thanks for input. will wait for the feature then
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1540[12:55:03] <lxsameer> hey folks, I'm on testing, recently upgraded my package and my sound system broke, is it a known problem on testing ?
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1544[12:55:58] <towo^work> lxsameer, no, it's not a known problem
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1546[12:56:31] <lxsameer> damn, I hate to debug sound problems
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1552[12:58:58] <BluesKaj> lxsameer, which audio chip, alsamixer will show it in the upper left
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1555[13:00:29] <lxsameer> BluesKaj: RealTech ALC3266
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1558[13:01:47] <jelly> !debian-next
1559[13:01:47] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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1578[13:10:54] <BluesKaj> lxsameer, if I'm right that's an intel hda
1579[13:11:04] <lxsameer> BluesKaj: you're right
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1586[13:13:56] <BluesKaj> lxsameer, try sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , if the there's no output then the driver should load properly, then reboot, but check alsamixer first and disable automute and unmute any relevant volume ctls that have MM in the box
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1593[13:15:07] <lxsameer> BluesKaj: is it necessary to reboot after modeprobe ?
1594[13:15:31] <BluesKaj> lxsameer, usually yes
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1596[13:15:43] <BluesKaj> it
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1599[13:16:21] <BluesKaj> ts an old bug that's been neglected for yrs
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1603[13:20:05] <lxsameer> BluesKaj: good to know thanks man I'll try it
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1621[13:28:29] <hid3> Greetings everyone. I need to move one system to another. Since the system #1 is working and I can't affor downtime, i decided to clone the syste,. Question: on the new system, how to force the GRUB to reflash the MBR so that the newly copied system is bootable?
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1628[13:31:37] <bites> !fixmbr
1629[13:31:38] <dpkg> To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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1667[13:51:22] <g0zzy1> hid3: Be careful of /etc/fstab. Worth checking after going through the above that the UIDs are correct in boot.cfg
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1674[13:58:42] <hid3> yeah, of course
1675[13:58:43] <hid3> thanks
1676[13:58:55] <hid3> earlier I was doing such migrations
1677[13:59:23] <hid3> IIRC it was possible to do something like g'rub-install /dev/ice' with earlier grub versions
1678[13:59:54] <g0zzy1> That's the standard install command, yes
1679[14:00:14] <hid3> strange enough, last time I checked it it didn't work for some reason
1680[14:00:20] <hid3> anyway, I'll see what I get this time
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1701[14:09:40] <lastaid> hello, i am currently testing the aarch64 release of debian buster for the rpi. is there a particular reason why /dev/mem is inaccessible for root?
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1711[14:15:18] <g0zzy1> Wouldn't that be /dev/shm?
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1715[14:16:34] <antoszka> Guys, where can I find source code for whatever binary that parses installer preseed files? I need to find legal arguments for the "choose_label" and "default_label" directives (other than "gpt").
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1719[14:17:44] <jelly> lastaid: isn't it that way on all architectures?
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1721[14:18:26] <jelly> lastaid: in any case, ask in #debian-arm or #debian-next over on irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org) for a better chance of answer
1722[14:18:45] <lastaid> well. the raspberry pi being an embedded system with gpio (which is controlled over either /dev/mem or /dev/gpiomem) it would make sense to enable it.
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1734[14:21:50] <BanHammor> gpio being controlled at devmem is a recipe for disaster
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1736[14:22:31] <fearnothing> why the hell does apt-get recommend using 'autoremove' when doing so breaks everything?
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1739[14:22:50] <fearnothing> I just caused a segfault with that
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1743[14:23:08] <BanHammor> that...sounds like a bug in apt. mind filing a report?
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1747[14:24:35] <BanHammor> (the general rule is that autoremove should not break anything by itself unless you did something extremely wrong, so that's why it's recommended)
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1749[14:25:04] <stoned> replaced-url
1750[14:25:18] <stoned> Chromium is v64 in stable and sid, but v62 in testing
1751[14:25:20] <fearnothing> would it have an issues with something that I compiled from source rather than installed from the distro repos?
1752[14:25:30] <fearnothing> because that's the thing that broke (libvirt)
1753[14:25:40] <stoned> how would you go about getting the latest chromium on testing?
1754[14:25:48] <babilen> Pull it from sid, obviously
1755[14:25:51] <babilen> dpkg: tum
1756[14:25:52] <dpkg> «echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set Preferences->Distribution.
1757[14:25:52] <stoned> ok
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1759[14:26:14] <babilen> Running testing without unstable is, IMHO, not a great idea/experience
1760[14:26:41] <stoned> I do have a sid chroot/nsapwn
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1762[14:26:44] <poettering> what's up my systemd slaves, i am glad you obey, keep it up.
1763[14:26:47] <stoned> I could just run it ehre, I suppose.
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1769[14:28:37] <BanHammor> ...is devuan paying those people or something?
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1777[14:31:29] <stoned> I stick to whatever debian has officially.
1778[14:31:43] <stoned> systemd, whatever.
1779[14:32:04] <jelly> BanHammor: let's not insinuate developers have anything to do with common trolls. Best not comment on such crap.
1780[14:32:21] <stoned> ok, I'm not pulling from sid.
1781[14:32:38] <stoned> I'm going to just install latest sid chromium in the sid chroot I ahve under systemd-container/nspawn.
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1784[14:32:57] <stoned> pulsewords, browser works, I just can't get host/container to shre the gpu sources like glx/3d accel
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1789[14:33:18] <stoned> pluseaudio works*
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1793[14:34:28] <stoned> I mount bind my ~ in chroot, hopefully that doesn't blow it up.
1794[14:34:36] <stoned> same chromium profile
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1796[14:35:23] <ykrons> Hi all, I'm trying to connect to Jessie/gdm3/gnome-shell via XDMCP without success. It was working with Wheezy previously, but now I'm receiving the following error message: "Authentication is required to create a color managed device"
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1798[14:35:46] <ykrons> Did someone solve a similar issue?
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1809[14:38:07] <Brigo> ykrons, what debian version?
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1815[14:39:40] <wedjats> hi everyone
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1817[14:40:39] <wedjats> i have a question regarding stretch-backports : does someone know if that repository is meant to include newer versions of PHP (PHP 7.1 maybe, as in buster/sid) ?
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1819[14:42:39] <ykrons> Brigo, my X server runs on Wheezy and gdm3 is running on Jessie. I have done some additional tests with Xming or VcXsrv under windows and it is also not working (I get a black screen without any error message).
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1834[14:46:23] <ykrons> Brigo, all are clean install from live iso, up-to-date
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1839[14:47:42] <Brigo> ykrons, that's the only thing i found googling: replaced-url
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1851[14:51:47] <jelly7> i personally think that devuan developers are shitbags for spreading systemd hate speech around this network
1852[14:52:11] <jelly7> systemd is the best init system around, we shouldn't have any init system freedom at all.
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1855[14:54:01] <BluesKaj> wedjats, replaced-url
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1875[14:59:43] <wedjats> thanks BluesKaj
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1887[15:04:13] <BluesKaj> wedjats, hope it helps
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1909[15:15:52] <ykrons> Brigo, thanks, I will have a look. In the same time, I will also test it with sid that seems to include a fix in its gdm3 version
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1918[15:19:49] <Master_Xpresi> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
1919[15:19:49] <Master_Xpresi> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
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1932[15:19:59] <Maier> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
1933[15:19:59] <Maier> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
1934[15:19:59] <Maier> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
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1939[15:20:05] <Erdman> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
1940[15:20:05] <Erdman> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
1941[15:20:05] <Erdman> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
1942[15:20:05] <Erdman> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
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1945[15:20:05] <Aykroyd> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
1946[15:20:05] <Aykroyd> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
1947[15:20:05] <Aykroyd> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
1948[15:20:05] <Aykroyd> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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1951[15:20:07] <ce_masdut> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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1954[15:20:09] <Korpri> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
1955[15:20:09] <Korpri> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
1956[15:20:09] <Korpri> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
1957[15:20:09] <Korpri> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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1962[15:20:09] <Kusman> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
1963[15:20:09] <Kusman> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
1964[15:20:09] <Kusman> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
1965[15:20:09] <Kusman> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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1972[15:20:19] <SMKN8> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
1973[15:20:19] <SMKN8> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
1974[15:20:19] <SMKN8> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
1975[15:20:19] <SMKN8> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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1977[15:20:19] <Carayannopoulos> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
1978[15:20:19] <Carayannopoulos> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
1979[15:20:19] <Carayannopoulos> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
1980[15:20:19] <Carayannopoulos> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
1981[15:20:19] <Carayannopoulos> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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1985[15:20:25] <Storer> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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1987[15:20:25] <Jackson> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
1988[15:20:25] <Jackson> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
1989[15:20:25] <Jackson> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
1990[15:20:25] <Jackson> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
1991[15:20:25] <Jackson> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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1994[15:20:34] <Pereira> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
1995[15:20:34] <Pereira> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
1996[15:20:34] <Pereira> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
1997[15:20:34] <Pereira> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
1998[15:20:34] <Pereira> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2000[15:20:34] <Kawachi> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2001[15:20:34] <Kawachi> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2002[15:20:34] <Kawachi> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2003[15:20:34] <Kawachi> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2004[15:20:34] <Kawachi> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2007[15:20:43] <Taveras> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2008[15:20:43] <Taveras> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2009[15:20:43] <Taveras> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2010[15:20:43] <Taveras> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2011[15:20:43] <Taveras> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2013[15:20:46] <Frisken> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2014[15:20:46] <Frisken> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2015[15:20:46] <Frisken> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2016[15:20:46] <Frisken> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2017[15:20:46] <Frisken> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2022[15:20:58] <Tambiah> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2023[15:20:58] <Tambiah> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2024[15:20:58] <Tambiah> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2025[15:20:58] <Tambiah> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2026[15:20:58] <Tambiah> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2028[15:21:03] <Whitla> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2029[15:21:03] <Whitla> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2030[15:21:03] <Whitla> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2031[15:21:03] <Whitla> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2032[15:21:03] <Whitla> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2034[15:21:04] <Rielly> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2035[15:21:04] <Rielly> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2036[15:21:04] <Rielly> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2037[15:21:04] <Rielly> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2038[15:21:04] <Rielly> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2042[15:21:25] <matthiaskrgr> /join #freenode
2043[15:21:27] <matthiaskrgr> ops
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2045[15:21:31] <Sandy_bau> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2048[15:21:41] <Motorolla> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2049[15:21:41] <Motorolla> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2050[15:21:41] <Motorolla> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2051[15:21:41] <Motorolla> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2052[15:21:41] <Motorolla> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2054[15:21:49] <SMKN9> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2055[15:21:49] <SMKN9> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2056[15:21:49] <SMKN9> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2057[15:21:49] <SMKN9> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2058[15:21:49] <SMKN9> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2062[15:22:17] <Aramis> flood limits a bit too liberal, it seems
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2066[15:23:12] <Mosher> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2068[15:23:14] <Bonham> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2069[15:23:14] <Bonham> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2070[15:23:14] <Bonham> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2071[15:23:14] <Bonham> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2072[15:23:14] <Bonham> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2074[15:23:19] <bolt> you can't fix that shit easily. if you filter on people repeating the same messages, for instances, they'll simply randomize it
2075[15:23:20] <Arduini> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2078[15:23:29] <niko> !ops
2079[15:23:29] <dpkg> Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
2080[15:23:42] <bolt> morons will find a way to be morons regardless of what you do
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2087[15:24:56] <celyr> !ops spam
2088[15:24:56] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: celyr complains about a problem (see above)
2089[15:24:59] <Merlani> morons will find a way to be morons regardless of what you do (c)
2090[15:24:59] <Merlani> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2091[15:24:59] <Merlani> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2092[15:24:59] <Merlani> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2093[15:24:59] <Merlani> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
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2096[15:25:03] <Vanheeckeren> morons will find a way to be morons regardless of what you do (c)
2097[15:25:04] <Vanheeckeren> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2098[15:25:04] <Vanheeckeren> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2099[15:25:04] <Vanheeckeren> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2100[15:25:04] <Vanheeckeren> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
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2102[15:25:10] <Telagah> morons will find a way to be morons regardless of what you do (c)
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2107[15:25:50] <celyr> Thanks
2108[15:25:54] <shtrb> wasn't it a +r ?
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2111[15:27:55] <shtrb> niko ?
2112[15:28:10] <r3> /whowas Vanheeckeren
2113[15:28:10] <niko> shtrb: i prefer +q $~a, that way they are removed from network
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2115[15:28:39] <shtrb> niko, wow cool , thanks for the explanation
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2122[15:35:43] <fearnothing> thanks a god damn lot to apt-get's autoremove, I now have a bricked system.
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2129[15:39:24] <alkisg> fearnothing: just reinstall the packages you removed :)
2130[15:39:27] <n4dir> if you got a question, more info is needed, else there is #debian-offtopic on oftc server
2131[15:39:31] <alkisg> Check your /var/log/apt/history.log
2132[15:39:46] <fearnothing> it won't boot
2133[15:39:51] <n4dir> what alkisg said is the first thing which omes to mind.
2134[15:39:55] <n4dir> then do a chroot
2135[15:39:57] <alkisg> You can boot from a live cd and chroot
2136[15:40:26] <shtrb> can you get single user access ?
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2146[15:45:13] <Brigo> ykrons, sid uses systemd by default, and this is consolekit issue, or it looks like it.
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2149[15:47:12] <fearnothing> no single user. Keeps segfaulting
2150[15:47:59] <ykrons> Brigo, if I'm not wrong, Jessie and Stretch also use systemd by default
2151[15:48:35] <Brigo> ykrons, yes.
2152[15:48:51] <Brigo> ykrons, what kernel are you using?
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2159[15:52:13] <fearnothing> what steps would you recommend for creating an environment to chroot from?
2160[15:52:38] <shtrb> debootstrap ?
2161[15:52:40] <fearnothing> I'm going to nuke this system, it's completely broken, but I want to recover the work I did over the past couple of days
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2164[15:53:37] <wigums> fearnothing, just grab a live distro/iso and mount the drive.... eas shmeasy
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2166[15:53:44] <wigums> easy
2167[15:54:22] <n4dir> !chroot
2168[15:54:22] <dpkg> To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
2169[15:54:25] <n4dir> those steps.
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2171[15:54:41] <n4dir> to recover data there is no need for a chroot, of course.
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2175[15:56:13] <fearnothing> alt-f2 doesn't do anything
2176[15:56:33] <RoyK> ctrl+alt+f2 ?
2177[15:56:49] <jelly> niko: +mz only shows traffic if I actually have +o right?
2178[15:56:58] <fearnothing> nope, I'm having to do it via vmware esxi so maybe that's the issue?
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2180[15:57:38] <RoyK> ,v addpriv
2181[15:57:39] <judd> No package named 'addpriv' was found in amd64.
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2193[16:02:21] <ybmbn> is there a free calculator application for Debian to calculate with incredibly high numbers? Let's say 10^100 ?
2194[16:02:49] <shtrb> bc or octave ?
2195[16:02:54] <wigums> slurm. lol
2196[16:02:59] <wigums> jk
2197[16:03:07] <jelly> ybmbn: uh, bc does arbitrary precision
2198[16:03:24] <ybmbn> jelly: what's the package name of bc?
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2200[16:03:51] <ybmbn> jelly: ah, it is
2201[16:04:00] <jelly> guess!
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2203[16:04:35] <ybmbn> as I see, it's already installed on my system
2204[16:04:55] <jelly> it's a pretty standard unix tool
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2209[16:06:13] <ybmbn> how do I tell it to calculate 10^80/10^23 ?
2210[16:06:37] <shtrb> use parenthesis to begin with
2211[16:06:55] <ybmbn> (10^80)/(10^23)
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2214[16:07:26] <shtrb> echo "$text" |bc
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2218[16:07:54] <ybmbn> echo "$(10^80)/(10^23)" | bc
2219[16:08:00] <g0zzy1> 10^77?
2220[16:08:01] <ybmbn> ups, wrong window
2221[16:08:04] <FightingFalcon> DBAT, BSCL, FRMS, FRS2, MDCP, MBCP >>> What might those abbs. mean? They are in DSDT file in EC0 section.. Any ideas?
2222[16:08:13] <shtrb> no need for the $
2223[16:08:23] <g0zzy1> erm 47 :0
2224[16:08:32] <shtrb> ybmbn, just echo "(10^80)/(10^23)"|bc
2225[16:08:40] <g0zzy1> 57
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2227[16:08:51] * g0zzy1 has to make that coffee now
2228[16:09:17] <r3> doesn't it support order of operations making the parenthesis unnecessary?
2229[16:09:28] <bites> yep
2230[16:09:55] <ybmbn> it looks like I really could have calculated that in my mind :)
2231[16:09:56] <Haohmaru> rely on that or be explicit
2232[16:10:14] <shtrb> When a human is not sure what the author means, it is better to use parenthesis
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2234[16:10:45] <r3> sure no doubt
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2242[16:14:07] <shtrb> r3, obligated replaced-url
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2247[16:16:09] <r2tw> "@@
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2250[16:16:53] <r3> shtrb: I've no idea what that's supposed to be
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2256[16:18:44] <ybmbn> I just see that concalc gave the best human readable answer to "(10^80)/(10^23)". It's 1e+57
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2260[16:19:49] <BanHammor> you can use python for that :P
2261[16:19:55] <r3> but if you just look at the problem, ybmbn, it's just 80-23.
2262[16:20:13] <ykrons> Brigo, I use the latest available (Jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae(3.16.51-2), Stretch: 4.9.0-4-amd64 (4.9.65-3))
2263[16:20:28] <r3> or, rather 10^(80-23)
2264[16:20:46] <r3> right? so no need for a calculator at all?
2265[16:20:52] <ybmbn> r3: I already figured that out that I could have calculated that in my mind....
2266[16:20:58] <r3> oh ok.
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2270[16:21:24] <ybmbn> but thanks :) I just wanted to tell you about the nice human readable output of concalc
2271[16:22:49] <ybmbn> I am just wondering why concalc is so unpopular in Debian popcon
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2273[16:23:35] <jelly> !kernels
2274[16:23:38] <dpkg> Linux kernel versions, mainline: 4.16-rc2, stable 4.15: 4.15.4, longterm 4.14: 4.14.20, longterm 4.9: 4.9.82, longterm 4.4: 4.4.116, longterm 4.1: 4.1.49, longterm 3.18: 3.18.95 (EOL), longterm 3.16: 3.16.54, longterm 3.2: 3.2.99, linux-next: next-20180219
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2277[16:24:56] <jelly> ykrons: not that it's related to your issue, but those are not the latest. You'll have to use apt-get dist-upgrade or apt full-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade to get the whole set of patches
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2285[16:30:14] <carp_> Hi guys. Im about to upgrade from Jessie to Stretch. Currently I have backports enabled in my sources.list. Do you recommend that I take the backport lines out of my sources.list when I do the upgrade?
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2293[16:33:31] <BanHammor> carp_, yeah. backports shouldn't install automatically anyway, but who knows?
2294[16:33:33] <ykrons> jelly, thanks. I believe live iso where up-to-date, but new kernels probably comes from security repo. I'll check and update
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2296[16:34:00] <babilen> carp_: I'd remove them after upgrading to the latest available package
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2301[16:35:18] <n4dir> BanHammor: i would assume that backports packages don't get installed unless you explicitly say so, but once installed they will get upgraded automatically (but then: i hardly ever used backports).
2302[16:36:03] <BanHammor> yeah, but the fewer variables you have, the less stuff can go wrong
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2305[16:37:16] <carp_> BanHammor: babilen: thanks guys. Ive made a back up of my pictures and documents. Ive got the massive guide open, think Im pretty much ready to give it a go.
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2307[16:38:36] <babilen> Just follow the upgrade guide in the release notes and ask if something is unclear
2308[16:38:43] <babilen> It should be pretty straigtforward
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2310[16:38:49] <babilen> +speling
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2319[16:41:17] <carp_> Do you think I should remove backports from my sources.list and then purge so i have a pure jessie install before upgrading?
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2324[16:43:24] <babilen> carp_: Which package is this about? It shouldn't™ be necessary, but that would obviously make for the smoothest upgrade experience
2325[16:43:39] <babilen> fwiw, I wouldn't
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2327[16:44:41] <annadane> do remove backports from your sources list, but purging the backport packages isn't necessary
2328[16:44:56] <babilen> I wouldn't purge, I already said that I'd remove the entries
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2332[16:46:48] <carp_> annadane: babilen: thanks for the tips guys. babilen I cant remember exactly why i installed backports now, but i think it was to make my speakers work. I will continue now. Thanks for the help.
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2336[16:47:08] <babilen> What did you install from backports?
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2338[16:48:09] <carp_> babilen: I dont remember if I then installed a specific package or not. From the way you are talking I suspect I did, but I cant remeber what.
2339[16:48:54] <babilen> aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(Debian Backports))' --disable-columns -F%p
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2341[16:49:03] <babilen> What does ^^ give you ? → replaced-url
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2346[16:52:24] <carp_> replaced-url
2347[16:53:07] <babilen> That shouldn't pose a problem
2348[16:53:29] <babilen> Ensure that you have the "linux-image-amd64" metapackage installed
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2350[16:53:44] <babilen> Oh, and "linux-headers-amd64" also
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2352[16:54:31] <carp_> ive got 32 bit hardware only. does that change things?
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2355[16:55:59] <abrotman> carp_: really?
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2358[16:56:45] <ykrons> Brigo, I did a test with sid and I got similar authentication request
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2361[16:57:09] <carp_> abrotman: my computer is from around 2007
2362[16:57:13] <abrotman> carp_: there's a linux-image-686 and linux-image-686-pae, you can use the associated -headers package
2363[16:57:39] <abrotman> carp_: cat /proc/cpuinfo (put it in pastebin)
2364[16:57:48] <ykrons> I will have a look to polkit rules
2365[16:57:55] <babilen> carp_: Oh, sorry .. Make that linux-image-686-pae and linux-headers-686-pae
2366[16:58:28] <babilen> carp_: Essentially: Just make sure you install the new (aka old as you have 4.9 already) kernel package for stretch
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2373[17:01:14] <carp_> abrotman: babilen: ok cool thankyou for the tips.
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2443[17:35:41] <bs0d> Hi all. Today I've installed a brand new Debian stretch. Debian does not recognize tapping on the touchpad.
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2451[17:37:23] <bs0d> I tried to follow the wiki and added /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf file, but after that authentication stopped working
2452[17:37:24] <JobewanKenobi> exit
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2454[17:37:39] <bs0d> I deleted this file and now I can use the system again, but the touchpad is not working still
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2531[18:06:11] <edju> All of a sudden, I can't print pdf files in portrait mode. No matter which package I use - okular, evince, xpdf - none will use portrait, no matter the settings. My word processor prints portrait, as will any plain text file. Only pdf presents this problem. If this makes sense to anyone, I'd appreciate any clues. hints, pointers, etc.
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2535[18:07:34] <gladioacuto> hello
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2537[18:08:27] <gladioacuto> is it possible for service provider to track internet surfing if TOR browser is used?
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2548[18:15:30] <bites> no, that's the point, innit? the isp just sees encrypted traffic to an entry relay.
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2555[18:20:08] <gladioacuto> bites, thanks, so just to be sure, I am inside a company network, with computing service monitoring web usage and traffic. If, inside TOR browser, I visit XYZ web page, they cannot see XYZ but ABC, right?
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2558[18:21:18] <gladioacuto> bites, sorry I fall, did you answer me?
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2561[18:23:01] <bites> yes
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2563[18:24:13] <bites> you might want to get a tor bridge though
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2566[18:24:24] <bites> makes it less obvious that you are using tor.
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2579[18:30:27] <gladioacuto> bites, it does not matter here if I am using tor or not
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2583[18:30:40] <gladioacuto> bites, thank you
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2604[18:42:56] <Pawloski> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2605[18:42:56] <Pawloski> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2606[18:42:56] <Pawloski> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2607[18:42:56] <Pawloski> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2611[18:43:11] <nhhmfcgarhpkvuxv> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2615[18:43:21] <Zerbini> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2616[18:43:21] <Zerbini> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2617[18:43:21] <Zerbini> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2618[18:43:21] <Zerbini> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2619[18:43:21] <Zerbini> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2621[18:43:22] <Gibson> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2622[18:43:22] <Gibson> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2623[18:43:22] <Gibson> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2624[18:43:22] <Gibson> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2625[18:43:22] <Gibson> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2629[18:43:25] <Gleason> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2634[18:43:33] <Clifton> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2635[18:43:33] <Clifton> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2636[18:43:33] <Clifton> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2637[18:43:33] <Clifton> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2638[18:43:33] <Clifton> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2640[18:43:34] <Paine> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2641[18:43:34] <Paine> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2642[18:43:34] <Paine> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2643[18:43:34] <Paine> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2644[18:43:34] <Paine> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2647[18:43:39] <Bartholomew> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2648[18:43:39] <Bartholomew> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2649[18:43:39] <Bartholomew> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2650[18:43:39] <Bartholomew> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2651[18:43:39] <Bartholomew> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2653[18:43:42] <Tharwah> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2654[18:43:42] <Tharwah> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2655[18:43:42] <Tharwah> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2656[18:43:42] <Tharwah> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2657[18:43:42] <Tharwah> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2659[18:43:47] <Baranowska> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2660[18:43:47] <Baranowska> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2661[18:43:47] <Baranowska> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2662[18:43:47] <Baranowska> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2663[18:43:47] <Baranowska> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2668[18:44:04] <Maccormac> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2669[18:44:04] <Maccormac> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2670[18:44:04] <Maccormac> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2671[18:44:04] <Maccormac> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2672[18:44:04] <Maccormac> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2674[18:44:07] <Preucel> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2675[18:44:07] <Preucel> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2676[18:44:07] <Preucel> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2677[18:44:07] <Preucel> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2678[18:44:07] <Preucel> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2681[18:44:10] <Tolman> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2682[18:44:10] <Tolman> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2683[18:44:10] <Tolman> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2684[18:44:10] <Tolman> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2685[18:44:10] <Tolman> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2690[18:44:20] <Mittal> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2691[18:44:20] <Mittal> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2692[18:44:20] <Mittal> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2693[18:44:20] <Mittal> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2694[18:44:20] <Mittal> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2696[18:44:22] <Chock> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
2697[18:44:22] <Chock> ✡ WE TRUE SCHLOMOS WE JEW TOGETHER WE GET HOLOCAUSTED TOGETHER ✡
2698[18:44:22] <Chock> 卐 Send this SHEKEL to everyone you care about including me if you want. 卐
2699[18:44:22] <Chock> ✡ C how many times you get this, if you get 6,000,000 ur A TRUE SCHLOMO ✡
2700[18:44:22] <Chock> 卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐卐✡卐卐✡卐✡systemd卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐✡卐
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2702[18:44:22] *** greycat sets mode: +r
2703[18:44:37] <nashimus> Thanks, whoever felt like that shit is necessary.
2704[18:45:04] <wpostma> Can we auto-kickban on a certain regex?
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2708[18:45:52] <greycat> You may discuss your non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic.
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2710[18:47:22] <fireant> op!
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2717[18:51:01] <Stephanian> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2718[18:51:01] <Stephanian> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2719[18:51:01] <Stephanian> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2720[18:51:01] <Stephanian> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2721[18:51:01] <Stephanian> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2731[18:52:51] <RustyJ> poettering? isnt that the pulse audio guy?
2732[18:52:58] <annadane> stop commenting on the spam
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2734[18:53:08] <greycat> RustyJ: he's the systemd guy
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2737[18:53:24] <Croshaw> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2741[18:53:46] <greycat> Do I need to leave the channel +r all day long, or what? :(
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2747[18:54:00] <Keepper> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2748[18:54:00] <Keepper> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2749[18:54:00] <Keepper> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2750[18:54:00] <Keepper> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2751[18:54:00] <Keepper> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2753[18:54:00] <Pederson> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2754[18:54:00] <Pederson> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2755[18:54:00] <Pederson> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2756[18:54:00] <Pederson> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2757[18:54:00] <Pederson> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2760[18:54:02] <Tawn> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2761[18:54:02] <Tawn> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2762[18:54:02] <Tawn> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2763[18:54:02] <Tawn> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2764[18:54:02] <Tawn> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2768[18:54:12] <Ocougne> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2769[18:54:12] <Ocougne> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2770[18:54:12] <Ocougne> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2771[18:54:12] <Ocougne> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2772[18:54:12] <Ocougne> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2800[19:06:36] <niko> greycat: you could /mode -r+zqo $~a Sigyn that will help to clear bots from network
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2819[19:15:25] <carp_> half way through my stretch dist-upgrade. wow, 1gb thats quite big actually, not sure what size i was expecting though really. (ofcourse far far smaller than windows still). Im not sure how much of this is graphics for gnome or something, if it is mostly text though, wow thats a lot of lines of code!
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2821[19:16:10] <greycat> Most of the large packages are compiled binary programs and their supporting graphics and other data.
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2834[19:17:50] <carp_> ah i see. pretty exciting to be doing this upgrade, looking forward to it.
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2842[19:20:04] <aci_> nmn wrong win
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2851[19:23:42] <bolt> aci_: also wrong encoding :D
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2863[19:32:50] <mike1206> hi does anybody know how to solve this problem of lynis Invalid WEB_CMD configuration option: Relative pathname: "/bin/false" on debian 9
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2867[19:34:40] <greycat> What is a lynis?
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2869[19:36:44] <bolt> small cat?
2870[19:37:14] <bolt> "linux auditing tool"
2871[19:37:55] <greycat> ah, it's a package name... so maybe someone knows it
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2879[19:41:42] <BCMM> what's the best way to check how a package listed for installation got pulled in?
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2881[19:42:10] <somiaj> BCMM: aptitude why packagename usually lists enough info
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2883[19:43:04] <BCMM> somiaj: thanks! do i have to wait until the offended package is installed, or will it work on something that apt upgrade is currently threatening to install?
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2886[19:44:39] <somiaj> BCMM: what new package is apt ugprade trying to pull in, and what version of debian?
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2888[19:44:54] <BCMM> somiaj: sid, and a *lot* of nvidia-related stuff
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2890[19:45:02] <BCMM> somiaj: that command worked, and seemed to give a root cause:
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2892[19:45:13] <somiaj> ahh, you should ask in #debian-next for sid.
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2894[19:45:16] <BCMM> libglx0 Depends libglx-mesa0 | libglx-vendor / libglx-nvidia0 Provides libglx-vendor
2895[19:45:21] <somiaj> (it is on irc.oftc.net)
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2897[19:45:36] <BCMM> i know, but i was asking a general question about how to use apt
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2899[19:45:44] <somiaj> It should have picked libglx-mesa0 first unless you have debian stuff install I woudl imangine.
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2902[19:46:02] <somiaj> BCMM: this really isn't a question about apt, but a question about the dependencies in the version of debian you are using.
2903[19:46:06] <BCMM> oh, libglx-mesa0 is already installed. no idea yes as to why it is pulling in both
2904[19:46:20] <somiaj> it could be for some other reason that you identified.
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2908[19:46:59] <Eckel> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2909[19:46:59] <Eckel> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2910[19:46:59] <Eckel> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2911[19:46:59] <Eckel> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2912[19:46:59] <Eckel> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2918[19:47:08] <Hamdan> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2919[19:47:08] <Hamdan> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2920[19:47:08] <Hamdan> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2921[19:47:08] <Hamdan> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2922[19:47:08] <Hamdan> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2925[19:47:12] <SpaceAlone> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2926[19:47:12] <SpaceAlone> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2927[19:47:12] <SpaceAlone> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2928[19:47:12] <SpaceAlone> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2929[19:47:12] <SpaceAlone> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2933[19:47:18] <apfgm> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2936[19:47:21] <Edley> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2937[19:47:21] <Edley> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2938[19:47:21] <Edley> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2939[19:47:21] <Edley> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2940[19:47:21] <Edley> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2943[19:47:22] <Yoffe> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2946[19:47:27] <Qarinah> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2949[19:47:30] <Sase> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2950[19:47:30] <Sase> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2951[19:47:30] <Sase> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2952[19:47:31] <Sase> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2953[19:47:31] <Sase> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2955[19:47:37] <Azri> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2956[19:47:37] <Azri> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2957[19:47:37] <Azri> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2958[19:47:37] <Azri> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2959[19:47:37] <Azri> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2967[19:47:48] <Kimmett> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2968[19:47:48] <Kimmett> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2969[19:47:48] <Kimmett> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2970[19:47:48] <Kimmett> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
2971[19:47:48] <Kimmett> We may discuss our non-working antispam proposals in #debian-offtopic as our dictator greycat has told us to do so. We may also go suck poettering dick as he told us to.
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2973[19:47:57] <N3X15> +m please
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2975[19:48:13] <somiaj> N3X15: +r should be enough.
2976[19:48:19] <brwoods> Well, someone's salty
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2978[19:49:38] <Allanis> Looks like we have some anti-spam issues here. :P
2979[19:49:55] <Allanis> Might want to write up some proposals about that!
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2982[19:51:32] <BCMM> somiaj: i appreciate that the root cause is a sid issue, but the general case of , "why does apt want to install $PACKAGE" is something that i've wanted to know before on a range of debian and debian-derived systems. my apologies if that's still offtopic.
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2988[19:54:57] <somiaj> BCMM: the why is completely dependent on the dependency tree in the sources you have available. things like aptitude why, apt-cache rdepends or apt-rdepends can help narrow down the why.
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2991[19:55:37] <somiaj> BCMM: in my experience most cases that people say are apt issues, are more about the dependency tree in the sources (though yes I do try to answer some sid questions here, but prefer users go to #debian-next if it gets more involved than that)
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3037[20:18:10] <DammitJim> I don't like this... I can view the contents of a samba share with smbclient
3038[20:18:18] <DammitJim> but I can't mount the share to a mountpoint
3039[20:18:38] <DammitJim> I recently updated to debian stretch (the samba server), but I didn't think anything had really changed
3040[20:18:54] <DammitJim> do you guys have any troubleshooting ideas?
3041[20:19:04] <DammitJim> -v doesn't give me that much more information when trying to mount
3042[20:19:28] <Igel> dmesg show info? try opening a terminal and run sudo journalctl -f
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3044[20:19:49] <Mathisen> DammitJim, i can mount samba shares fine
3045[20:19:50] <Igel> then try to re-mount and catch an error there, or somewhere in /var/log/*
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3047[20:20:29] <DammitJim> the client is running good 'ol Debian 7.11
3048[20:20:30] <DammitJim> blah
3049[20:22:48] <Mathisen> DammitJim, how do you mount it
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3051[20:23:16] <DammitJim> oh gosh
3052[20:23:26] <DammitJim> I figured it out. Thanks Igel ! I looked at dmesg
3053[20:23:47] <DammitJim> somehow that took me to some lists.samba.org question where they said to specify sec=ntlmssp
3054[20:23:49] <DammitJim> that did it!
3055[20:23:51] <DammitJim> holy cow
3056[20:24:02] <Mathisen> i atleast do > sudo mount -t cifs //server_ip/share -o username=my_user
3057[20:24:24] <DammitJim> I did that Mathisen
3058[20:24:30] <DammitJim> thanks for looking into it
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3085[20:48:35] <wigums> j #debian-offtopic
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3116[21:29:30] <syntaxman> My mouse disappears after screen lock. Stretch 9.3 KDE Plasma desktop... Google isn't giving me any help.
3117[21:29:42] <syntaxman> Is this a current, common issue?
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3119[21:30:50] <Vonor|Home> hi. silly question, maybe. but i want to create a raw file from /dev/zero that has the exact same size as my usb flash drive. purpose is to use the raw file as image file for kvm to install something on it and then dd it to the flash drive. or maybe there is a way to pass the drive through to the kvm guest so it is installable? didn't get it to work with a usb redirector
3120[21:31:00] <syntaxman> Restarting X from a console didn't fix it.
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3122[21:31:44] <alkisg> Vonor|Home: kvm -m 1024 /dev/sdc, where sdc is your drive
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3124[21:32:12] <Vonor|Home> syntaxman, check ~/.xsession-errors
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3131[21:36:18] <Vonor|Home> alkisg, seems to work. thanks for the hint
3132[21:36:26] <alkisg> np
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3134[21:36:48] <Vonor|Home> alkisg, would you have an idea for the first version as well? other than first zero the device and then dd it to a file?
3135[21:36:52] <alkisg> Vonor|Home: make sure that you don't have anything mounted e.g. sdc1
3136[21:37:24] <alkisg> Vonor|Home: you can see the drive size with e.g. parted
3137[21:37:34] <alkisg> And you can use truncate to create a sparse file of the same size
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3139[21:37:56] <alkisg> Sparse files are "better" than zeroed files because they don't really take up space on disk; except the sectors you later on write to
3140[21:38:13] <Sir_Designer> replaced-url
3141[21:38:17] <alkisg> replaced-url
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3143[21:39:42] <alkisg> sudo sfdisk -l
3144[21:39:42] <alkisg> Disk /dev/sda: 931,5 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes....
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3146[21:39:58] <alkisg> truncate -s 1000204886016 file.img
3147[21:41:50] <Vonor|Home> thanks
3148[21:41:55] <alkisg> np
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3156[21:52:42] <Vonor|Home> syntaxman, anything in xsession-errors?
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3162[22:05:54] <Vonor|Home> alkisg, dd'ing the sparse file writes the whole 16gb to the flash even though only about 2gb have been written into the sparse file.
3163[22:06:09] <alkisg> Vonor|Home: exactly
3164[22:06:27] <alkisg> You do want to write zeroes there, don't you?
3165[22:07:19] <Vonor|Home> alkisg, i want to have an image file of a readily installed system that i can easily deploy on the same usb flash drive
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3168[22:09:27] <alkisg> If you don't want to write the zeroes, try conv=sparse in dd
3169[22:09:30] <alkisg> replaced-url
3170[22:09:38] <alkisg> I'm not sure if that will work on block devices though
3171[22:10:32] <Vonor|Home> lets see
3172[22:10:35] <alkisg> If it doesn't, you can use a smaller file, and just grow the file system after the copy, as growin doesn't need writes
3173[22:10:58] * alkisg waves goodnight, will read the results tomorrow :)
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3177[22:12:09] <alkisg> (growing the file system will also allow you to clone to a 64 gb stick, i.e. to not care much about the target size as long as it's bigger)
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3205[22:42:53] <Meerkat> Which mailing list are those "Direktoriaus kontaktai" spam messages coming from? I'm trying to unsubscribe but I can't find the correct mailing list.
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3210[22:43:39] <greycat> check your message headers; look for "Delivered-To" or similar
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3212[22:44:23] <ikmaak2> hello, i have been looking at replaced-url
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3223[23:00:41] <apsknight> Hey,
3224[23:00:41] <apsknight> Where should I ask Google Summer of Code related things ?
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3227[23:04:10] <hypn0> replaced-url
3228[23:05:15] <apsknight> hypn0: Thanks, but I was asking, How should I contact Debian's mentors for Google Summer of Code 2018.
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3233[23:07:37] <hypn0> replaced-url
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3235[23:07:41] <Haynes> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3236[23:07:41] <Haynes> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3237[23:07:41] <Haynes> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3238[23:07:41] <Haynes> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3239[23:07:41] <Haynes> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
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3245[23:07:52] <MarryJane> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3246[23:07:52] <MarryJane> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3247[23:07:52] <MarryJane> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3248[23:07:52] <MarryJane> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3249[23:07:52] <MarryJane> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
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3251[23:07:54] <Sumner> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3252[23:07:54] <Sumner> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3253[23:07:54] <Sumner> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3254[23:07:54] <Sumner> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3255[23:07:54] <Sumner> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
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3258[23:08:00] <Tolman> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3259[23:08:00] <Tolman> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3260[23:08:00] <Tolman> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3261[23:08:00] <Tolman> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3262[23:08:00] <Tolman> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
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3266[23:08:04] <Isbill> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3267[23:08:04] <Isbill> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3268[23:08:04] <Isbill> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3269[23:08:04] <Isbill> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
3270[23:08:04] <Isbill> Please take #debian conversation to #debian-offtopic as we are all poettering slaves now and helping or giving opinions has no point. Just eat systemd like shit and be happy.
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3273[23:09:10] <clastsic> Somebody have experience identify some specifica hw?
3274[23:09:31] <hypn0> is this a systemd protest on irc
3275[23:09:48] <greycat> It's a spammer. Ignore it.
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3284[23:17:56] <apsknight> hypn0: Thanks
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3286[23:18:50] <greycat> clastsic: you need to give a little more detail. What kind of hardware? Does it appear in "lspci -nn"?
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3289[23:21:20] <clastsic> 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Serie s SoC Transaction Register [8086:0f00] (rev 0f) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xx
3290[23:21:32] <clastsic> sorry, new in irc :-)
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3294[23:24:43] <hypn0> cat /proc/cpuinfo ? what hardware, the cpu? clastsic
3295[23:24:57] <clastsic> x86 tablet
3296[23:25:22] <BCMM> !paste
3297[23:25:23] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
3298[23:25:23] <clastsic> like t100ta, but cheaper.
3299[23:25:46] <BCMM> clastsic: i think the bot kicks if you paste too many lines straight to irc
3300[23:26:14] <hypn0> but noting specific?, general? clastsic
3301[23:26:42] <BCMM> clastsic: so if somebody asks for a large amount of text like cpuinfo, please post it on one of those websites and then put hte link here
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3304[23:27:43] <clastsic> replaced-url
3305[23:27:48] <clastsic> that's work?
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3307[23:28:26] <BCMM> clastsic: so what are you trying to identify here? that specific PCI device?
3308[23:28:35] <BCMM> or the tablet in general?
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3311[23:29:48] <BCMM> clastsic: (and yes, the pastebin worked)
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3313[23:32:22] <JustTheDoctor> Hello, How's everyone doing this fine evening
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3315[23:33:05] <JustTheDoctor> Can anyone tell me what is the Most Recent Production version of Debian?
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3318[23:33:57] <annadane> JustTheDoctor, debian 9 stretch; 9.3 specifically
3319[23:34:18] <JustTheDoctor> is there a method to upgrade debian 8 64-bit miniual on a VPS to deb 9?
3320[23:34:37] <JustTheDoctor> Minimal
3321[23:34:41] <clastsic> I need get battery status
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3323[23:35:05] <clastsic> install acpi but get this error:No support for device type: power_supply
3324[23:36:31] <petn-randall> JustTheDoctor: That could work just like described in the release notes. However, most VPS providers boot a custom kernel, so you might be stuck with that release.
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3328[23:37:58] <JustTheDoctor> ok thank you petn-randall
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3330[23:38:40] <JustTheDoctor> so if i have sudo installed, is this to the correct method to make a sudo user.. :: adduser name (fill out the info) then userod -aG username ?
3331[23:38:46] <JustTheDoctor> usermod*
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3333[23:40:00] <petn-randall> JustTheDoctor: "usermod -aG sudo <username>", but usually "adduser <user> <group>" is easier to remember.
3334[23:40:39] <JustTheDoctor> thank you
3335[23:40:46] <JustTheDoctor> and you ean i can do, adduser username sudo and they are auto sudo?
3336[23:41:45] <petn-randall> JustTheDoctor: I'm not sure what you mean with "auto sudo", but unless configured differently, any user in the sudo group can use sudo to run any command as root.
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3338[23:42:27] <ikmaak2> hello, i have been looking at replaced-url
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3340[23:42:53] <JustTheDoctor> petn-randall: so what i ment was, using adduser username sudo that makes the user in the sudo group as well as all other noral groups?
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3342[23:43:33] <petn-randall> JustTheDoctor: The above command just adds that user to sudo, it doesn't touch any other groups.
3343[23:43:44] <JustTheDoctor> ok thank you
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3350[23:46:43] <JustTheDoctor> another question, if i put a executeable in /usr/bin/ everyone that has access to the server can use it, but if i put in /usr/local/bin/ only the user can use it?
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3353[23:49:38] <ioc_> JustTheDoctor, no, /usr/local is generally meant for locally-compiled software
3354[23:49:41] <BCMM> JustTheDoctor: that's not necessarily accurate, although you could fiddle with permissions to make it like that
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3356[23:50:22] <BCMM> JustTheDoctor: /usr/local is generally for stuff installed system-wide, but not installed through dpkg
3357[23:50:23] <JustTheDoctor> well my thing is this, normally when i compile an app on cli (ssh) i put it in /usr/bin, it works where i can just type appname whatever and it runs the daemon mode stuff.
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3360[23:52:38] <BCMM> JustTheDoctor: whether just typing the executable's name works depends entirely on a user's $PATH variable
3361[23:53:26] <annadane> i've never fully understood /usr/local vs /opt
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3365[23:54:56] <BCMM> annadane: as i understand it, /usr/local is for proper, unixy applications that install their stuff in appropriate directories
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3367[23:55:28] <BCMM> i.e. the directory structure inside /usr/local/ is just like the one in /usr/
3368[23:55:47] <BCMM> and /opt/ is basically c:\program files\
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3371[23:56:08] <BCMM> applications that dump all their stuff in one big directory organised any way they like
3372[23:56:18] <annadane> eww, keep the windows analogy away from me :)
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3374[23:57:37] <BCMM> it's not just an analogy, tbh it's almost a windows compatibility feature at this point
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3377[23:58:12] <BCMM> the number of cross-platform proprietary programs using their /opt/ dir almost exactly the same they use their program files directory...
3378[23:58:26] <BCMM> ^the same way they
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