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2[00:00:47] <darsie> 'dry' does not occur in man
aptitude.
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3[00:01:04] <Tenkawa> use apt-get
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5[00:01:35] <Tenkawa> sorry,.. forgot to mention that
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8[00:02:14] * Tenkawa is looking too
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9[00:02:54] <darsie> ok, apt-get has no ambitions to install
anything, but now aptitude shows me dependency conflicts again ...
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11[00:03:22] <Tenkawa> let me look at that pastebin
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13[00:03:49] <darsie>
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15[00:04:27] <darsie> I tried to install libgl1-nvidia-glx, but
that's for new cards, so I aborted, but it still wants to
install all the stuff for new cards.
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16[00:04:43] <Tenkawa> ahhhh
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19[00:05:11] <Tenkawa> you need to back that out then
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20[00:05:28] <darsie> And not worry that aptitude install wants
to install stuff?
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21[00:05:46] <darsie> I already purged libgl1-nvidia-glx
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23[00:06:18] <Tenkawa> you can let it install those and then
remove afterwards too
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24[00:06:31] <darsie> I'll try ...
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25[00:06:38] <Tenkawa> if you dont need those packages
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33[00:08:34] <darsie> building modules for new cards ...
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35[00:09:44] <darsie> looks bad
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37[00:10:24] <Tenkawa> why?
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39[00:10:37] <Tenkawa> it suppose to do that
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41[00:10:49] <darsie>
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42[00:11:11] <darsie> I think it installed the new driver. I
forgot how to switch between old an new driver.
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43[00:11:25] <darsie> If I reboot now xorg will be broken.
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44[00:11:50] <Tenkawa> do what it saysy
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45[00:12:17] <Tenkawa> that is fine
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47[00:12:47] <Tenkawa> you can get it to a stable point that
way then restart the install
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48[00:13:02] <darsie> restart what install?
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50[00:13:35] <darsie> install the old nvidia driver?
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52[00:14:00] <darsie> apt install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed
's/[^-]*-[^-]*-//') nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver
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53[00:14:16] <darsie> ?
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54[00:14:22] <Tenkawa> follow the instructios its telling yu
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55[00:14:25] <Tenkawa> er you
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57[00:14:40] <darsie> Well, I hit enter.
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59[00:15:18] <darsie>
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61[00:16:18] <darsie> aptitude install is happy now
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62[00:16:23] <Tenkawa> yep
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63[00:16:24] <Bacteria> can prompt colors cause line wraping
issues?
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64[00:16:39] <Tenkawa> directed to darsie
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65[00:16:50] <darsie> Tenkawa: Do I install the old nvidia
driver now?
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66[00:16:55] <Tenkawa> darsie: yes
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67[00:18:09] <darsie> It's already "installed",
but I guess the new driver is configured now. I forgot the command
to switch between the drivers.
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70[00:18:32] <darsie> Shall I reinstall the old driver?
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74[00:19:42] <Tenkawa> darsie: you can try... however my
recommendation would to be sure X is not running and do it in the
console
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75[00:19:58] <Tenkawa> afk...gotta fix something over here
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76[00:20:31] <darsie> I'm afraid if I stop X it will not
come back up.
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80[00:21:11] <darsie> I'd have to revert to irssi or so.
Or nouveau.
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83[00:23:23] <darsie> How would I activate nouveau?
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84[00:23:24] <Bacteria> omg
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85[00:23:37] <Bacteria> what is causing the line wraping
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88[00:24:27] <darsie> make an xorg.conf file?
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92[00:26:06] <darsie> IIRC nouveau got blacklisted. Where?
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93[00:26:14] <darsie> Would it suffice to remove that?
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94[00:26:31] <Bacteria> i do it in the grub
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95[00:26:48] <darsie> You don't have a brain.
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96[00:26:48] <Bacteria> but the otehr way is in some folder
/modules
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97[00:27:12] <Bacteria> just google how to blaklist nouveau
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98[00:27:19] <darsie> ahh, found the blacklist.
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99[00:27:19] <darsie> thx
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100[00:27:21] <Bacteria> and ull track it down
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115[00:38:30] <darsie42> X is broken. I'm at the text
console :(. How do I get the 340 nvidia driver back up?
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118[00:38:44] <darsie42> or nouveau?
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119[00:38:47] <TwistedFate> What's the best way to install
mesa and all of it's packages in Debian?
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120[00:39:00] <TwistedFate> I don't want to install them
all by hand, too many packages >.<
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121[00:39:32] <darsie42> unblacklisting nouveau didn't
work.
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123[00:40:12] <darsie42> Shall I reinstall debian a third time?
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124[00:40:20] <Tenkawa> darsie42: what do you get with startx in
the console?
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126[00:40:59] <darsie42> (EE) no screens found(EE)
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128[00:41:24] <Tenkawa> ok.. thats not too bad'
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129[00:41:40] <Tenkawa> is this a integrated card?
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130[00:41:43] <darsie42> no
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131[00:41:47] <Tenkawa> ok
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132[00:41:51] <Tenkawa> god
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133[00:41:54] <Tenkawa> er good
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135[00:42:19] <Tenkawa> as root run Xorg -configure
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138[00:43:42] <darsie42> Number of created screens does not
match number of detected devices.
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139[00:44:04] <Tenkawa> what kind of machine is this?
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141[00:44:54] <darsie42> amd64, HP
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142[00:44:56] <darsie42> PC
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143[00:45:12] <Tenkawa> hmm
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144[00:45:33] <darsie42> I see nouveau in xorg.conf. Trying to
rmmod nvidia ...
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145[00:46:25] <darsie42> argh, I got x as root
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146[00:46:36] <Tenkawa> well thats good
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147[00:46:51] <Tenkawa> you can exit and log back in as you
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150[00:48:42] <darsie> ok, I'm back in a messy nouveau x
server.
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152[00:49:19] <Tenkawa> cool..
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154[00:49:33] <Tenkawa> i gotta run but good luck for now
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155[00:49:42] <darsie> thx ...
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156[00:49:49] <Tenkawa> cheera all
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157[00:49:57] <Tenkawa> er cheers
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159[00:50:04] <darsie> got binary garbage and shifted image.
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163[00:53:41] <darsie> help
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165[00:54:42] <darsie> I installed old and new nvidia driver.
How do I switch between them?
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166[00:55:04] <darsie> The installation process told me the
command, but I forgot.
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168[00:56:09] <darsie> Hmm, when I backup my home then
reinstalling a third time won't be so time consuming.
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170[00:56:41] <darsie> Probably faster than cleaning up this
mess.
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174[01:01:02] <annadane> are there any security risks associated
with adding a user to the libvirt libvirt-qemu and kvm groups or can
this be done safely?
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181[01:03:56] <Bacteria> darsie: wtfffffffffffff
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182[01:03:59] <Bacteria> lol
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186[01:06:19] <darsie> That's not funny.
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187[01:06:29] <darsie> I'm wasting days with this shit.
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192[01:07:22] <annadane> in fact, i'm going to ask the
mailing list, thanks anyway
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193[01:07:30] <darsie> yw
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195[01:10:06] <darsie> I found the logout button, which has
shifted off the screen. bbl
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201[01:15:14] <Bacteria> wow
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202[01:15:21] <Bacteria> issues
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204[01:15:34] <annadane> go troll elsewhere, please
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209[01:19:03] <nvzn> hi, I'm using an embedded device, the
TS-7680 from Technologic Systems (replaced-url
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211[01:19:40] <annadane> i would post !arm but not sure how
applicable it would be
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212[01:19:56] <annadane> also unsure as to whether embedded
devices have their own kernel
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213[01:20:02] <annadane> own special kernel, that is
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214[01:20:17] <nvzn> Yes, it's a special kernel, sources on
github
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217[01:20:33] <nvzn> and what do you mean by posting on !arm?
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218[01:20:41] <annadane> !arm
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219[01:20:42] <dpkg> Advanced RISC Machine (ARM) is a processor
architecture. The Debian arm port was deprecated at 5.0
"Lenny" with official support dropped at 6.0
"Squeeze", ask me about <armel> for the replacement
port. See also <armhf>.
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220[01:21:00] <annadane> in other words, "go ask
there", but not sure if it's appropriate
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221[01:21:14] <nvzn> ok, thanks for that
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237[01:29:07] <tharkun> I need to get the transcript from a
youtube video but my conection is shaky is there a way to download
the video so I can work localy?
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241[01:30:42] <Bacteria> is there a way to detect terminal
resize
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243[01:31:24] <tharkun> ncurses has a way
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248[01:32:54] <Bacteria> what is it
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249[01:33:06] <tharkun> !ncurses
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250[01:33:07] <dpkg> methinks ncurses is a free clone of curses,
a library for the management of in- and output for character-cell
based terminals and terminal emulators. If you want to install
ncurses, you most likely want to: aptitude install libncurses5-dev
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251[01:33:26] <Bacteria> methinks
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255[01:34:08] <blaztek> Bacteria: tout
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257[01:34:16] <blaztek> tput
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258[01:34:32] <blaztek> tput cols
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259[01:34:40] <Bacteria> thats what im doing
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260[01:34:42] <Bacteria> yes
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262[01:34:56] <Bacteria> i dont want to install any extras
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263[01:34:57] <rifkin> after LTS stops are the servers still
available to get packages?
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264[01:35:05] <Bacteria> since this seems to be a bug in docker
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265[01:35:57] <blaztek> Bacteria: save the old values and check
for different values?
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266[01:36:48] <Bacteria> ?
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268[01:37:22] <Bacteria> i was thinking to just add tput cols
and tput rows in bashrc
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270[01:37:40] <blaztek> Yes
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271[01:37:43] <blaztek> Exactly
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272[01:38:05] <Bacteria> tput cols && tput lines?
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276[01:40:29] <blaztek> Personally I’d go with something
like export TERM_LINES=$( tput lines )
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277[01:40:29] <blaztek> same with cols
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279[01:41:17] <Bacteria> seems like tput works on resize too
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280[01:41:19] <Bacteria> ?
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281[01:41:26] <Bacteria> w out typing that again
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283[01:42:13] <Bacteria> crap that didnt work
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285[01:42:28] <blaztek> No, you’d have to check for resize
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286[01:42:38] <Bacteria> man that didnt even work lol
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287[01:42:55] <blaztek> The export?
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289[01:43:06] <Bacteria> tput cols && tput lines
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290[01:43:20] <Bacteria> it just showed me with the wrong values
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297[01:43:55] <blaztek> Use ; instead of &&
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300[01:44:32] <Bacteria> y
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301[01:44:42] <Bacteria> also im getting the wrong values
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305[01:45:07] <blaztek> Hmmm, I’m not
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306[01:45:07] * darsie reinstalled the 3rd time.
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310[01:45:42] <irssi> crap
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311[01:45:47] <irssi> and i kicked myself
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314[01:45:57] <Guest96094> lol
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315[01:46:11] <blaztek> Bacteria: I’m on my smartphone
SSH’d in and rotating the screen gives different correct
values
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317[01:46:26] <Guest96094> nice
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319[01:46:51] <Guest96094> well yeah i can make such a program w
QT myself
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320[01:47:05] <Guest96094> but this is in a docker container
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324[01:49:25] <blaztek> Bacteria: you’re right...different
values that are off
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327[01:51:08] <Bacteria> fkn docker and all its bugs
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333[01:53:39] <Bacteria> see in #debian we dont have these
problems
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349[02:01:50] <tharkun> Gentlemen can anyone give me a good idea
on how to spot if someone is connecting their gadgets to my wifi
network?
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351[02:04:23] <awal1> tharkun, you have several tools for that
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352[02:04:37] <Bacteria> tail the network log
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361[02:08:28] <awal1> tharkun, easy to use an not needing too
much debug, I suggest you aircrack-ng utilities (airodump-ng and
aireplay-ng, in your case ' monitor & kick out)
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363[02:09:38] <awal1> monitor mode is required, so an extra wifi
adapter is preferable
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367[02:11:09] <awal1> easiest way is just control stuff acced to
your router and verify
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368[02:11:22] <awal1> accessing
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373[02:14:12] <Bacteria> oh i c i already have ncurses
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374[02:14:29] <Bacteria> so wth
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376[02:17:36] <Bacteria> how come its reporting wrong size
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379[02:19:18] <bug> tharkun, most routers let you limit access
to your network by mac address.
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383[02:24:12] <hyperlumic> Which is useless.
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384[02:24:42] <hyperlumic> WPA2 with a strong passphrase,
disable WPS.
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386[02:25:23] <rjsalts> or WPA2 enterprise
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387[02:25:56] <hyperlumic> Yup, because I'm sure setting up
a RADIUS server is so much easier for most people, let alone the
fact that a lot of home devices can't authenticate to WPA2
enterprise networks.
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389[02:27:20] <rjsalts> hyperlumic: some routers offer a built
in credential store for multiple users as an alternative to querying
an external radius server
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391[02:27:53] <hyperlumic> rjsalts: Which is neat, I've
never seen that. Links, please. Also doesn't mitigate the
"many consumer devices can't speak it" problem.
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397[02:34:02] <Bacteria> k this might be dumb but
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398[02:34:22] <Bacteria> whats the diff between ; and &&
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399[02:34:39] <Bacteria> like when i wana run something after
sleep
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400[02:34:41] <rjsalts> Bacteria: in shell, I assume you mean
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401[02:34:50] <Bacteria> ya in term
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402[02:35:08] <rjsalts> hyperlumic: I think I saw it on my
netcomm, but I don't know what model it was
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403[02:35:10] <raktajino> ; both commands run regardless
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406[02:35:31] <raktajino> && second only runs if rc0 on
first
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407[02:36:04] <hyperlumic> rc0 translates to "if the
process exited with a return code of 0, which implies success or no
errors."
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408[02:36:05] <bug> ; executes the commands regardles.
&& only executes the second command if the first one
succeeded.
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409[02:36:06] <rjsalts> Bacteria: && is shell compound
command for AND
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410[02:36:16] <awal1> command1 ; command2 = command2 only run if
command1 is succesful
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413[02:36:48] <Bacteria> umm
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414[02:36:49] <hyperlumic> awal1: No.
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415[02:36:50] <awal1> && is run command2 too after
command1 even if not succesful
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416[02:37:04] <raktajino> ❌
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417[02:37:07] <Bacteria> so i need to do sleep 1; tput lines?
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418[02:37:18] <Bacteria> so i need to do sleep 1; tput lines
&& tput cols?
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419[02:37:41] <jelly> awal1: try it. "false; echo second
command" vs. "false && echo second command"
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421[02:38:07] <awal1> jelly, I got confused, yeah :D
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423[02:38:09] <Bacteria> ya that seems to be it
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424[02:38:13] <Bacteria> right
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425[02:38:16] <Bacteria> sleep 1; tput lines && tput
cols
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426[02:38:25] <rjsalts> Bacteria: and shell is lazy, so if the
first command exits non-zero then it doesn't need to invoke the
second command because it knows that !0 && whatever is !0
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427[02:38:52] <Bacteria> rjsalts: that doesnt compute lol
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428[02:39:04] <Bacteria> just say yes or no lol
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430[02:39:27] <Bacteria> what does sleep exit
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431[02:40:24] <Bacteria> ok aaaaand its still giving the wrong
sizes
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432[02:40:33] <rjsalts> I assume it would exit 0 unless there
was some kind of error. the man page doesn't mention any exit
codes though
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433[02:40:34] <jelly> Bacteria: you can see the exit status by
looking at $? variable immediately after a command is run
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434[02:40:45] <jelly> Bacteria: sleep 10; echo $?
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436[02:41:02] <Bacteria> ok
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437[02:41:06] <Bacteria> but still wrong size
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438[02:41:09] <jelly> Bacteria: repeat it, but press ^c while
it's sleeping, and compate
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439[02:41:39] <Bacteria> ok so its like any bash script
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440[02:41:42] <Bacteria> i get it
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441[02:41:44] <jelly> Bacteria: are you using screen or tmux in
addition to a terminal?
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443[02:41:50] <Bacteria> kinda like perl
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444[02:42:06] <Bacteria> no its docker
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445[02:42:09] <jelly> "reset" might fix some of the
terminal settings
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446[02:42:10] <Bacteria> they made a bug
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447[02:42:23] <jelly> does docker even open a tty when running
commands?
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448[02:42:37] <Bacteria> docker made a new bug
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449[02:42:45] <Bacteria> now it doesnt know the correct size
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450[02:42:52] <jelly> eh
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459[02:46:45] <Bacteria> should we just get rid of computers
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460[02:46:58] <Bacteria> seems like they cause more problems
than solve
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461[02:49:51] <foreign_spy> also all customer service
representatives
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464[02:51:12] <foreign_spy> 's
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467[02:52:11] <Bacteria> comon guys, think
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468[02:52:18] <Bacteria> use ur debian brains
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469[02:52:32] <Bacteria> tput cols give wrong size
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470[02:52:45] <Bacteria> if i resize window gives right size
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472[02:53:09] <Bacteria> all others on google can come up with
is setting it staticly
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477[02:58:36] <foreign_spy> speaking of which
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478[02:58:51] <foreign_spy> is there any way i can make an iso
of my current installation?
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479[02:58:52] <Bacteria> spank vision
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480[02:59:00] <Bacteria> omfg
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481[02:59:41] <Bacteria> u dont even need to do that but
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482[02:59:49] <Bacteria> sounds interesting
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483[03:00:09] <Bacteria> foreign_spy: u know u can just directly
move the instalation
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484[03:00:34] <Bacteria> to any drive, change the uuid
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485[03:00:58] <Bacteria> and it will work on even another
computer just like nothing happened
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502[03:15:36] <Humatiel> I've had decent luck with btrfs
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537[03:44:12] <rhizome> just a personal machine drive i'm
trying to grow and apparently did wrong. nothing permanent.
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538[03:44:14] <limited> how do I install gnome on debian jessie
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549[03:51:57] <rhizome> under an md raid 1, recreating it
actually, does it matter which drive has the "stuff" on it
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589[04:10:35] <limited> what program can I use to transfer
videos from a dv device to the computer using firewire that is not
coriander that depends on gnome and uses all my space installing it
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replaced-url
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633[04:53:09] <limited> rhizome: can u help me using it? I
can't record any video
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659[05:04:03] <limited> I get no camera exists with dvgrab
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660[05:04:13] <limited> while my dv is outputting dv
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664[05:04:21] <limited> dv dazzle hollywood bridge
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665[05:04:22] <zhangj__> I would like to know about the
implementation of socket5's proxy protocol. Does anyone know?
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694[05:23:37] <rjsalts> zhangj__: you're wanting to write
your own?
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702[05:31:16] <zhangj__> @rjsalts I know when to open socket
forwarding data, I do not know when to close the established socket
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I've read many times 'rfc1928.txt'.
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719[05:40:00] <zhangj__> @OtakuSenpai Thank you
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862[07:31:08] <dysfigured> i have raspbian running stretch, but
a lot of things (like tmux and zsh and a sensible vim build) is
missing from the raspbian stretch repos, if i add jessie to my
repos, do i need to do some apt-pinning to make sure it pulls from
stretch first?
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883[07:41:35] <africoala> hi
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884[07:41:46] <blaztek> Hi
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887[07:41:52] <ph33r> Helloz africoala
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888[07:42:09] <ph33r> And blaztek.
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890[07:42:19] <africoala> hey ph33r
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893[07:43:06] <blaztek> Hi ph33r
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894[07:43:07] <africoala> some1 knows if a raid1 will start
again after removed one of two disks?
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895[07:43:20] <ph33r> I've been gone all day. What exciting
debian stuff did I miss? lol
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896[07:43:26] <africoala> I coulnt find a hell out of google for
this question
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898[07:43:56] <africoala> duno ph33r
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899[07:44:05] <africoala> where u been? :)
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902[07:45:16] <blaztek> africoala: it’s mirrored so I
would guess yes
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904[07:45:46] <ph33r> Well, I had to go to a wake for a friend.
Afterward I found the cops are starting to treat it as a murder. So
its been a long crazy day to say the least. I'm not a hardware
guy, but let me see what I can find.
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905[07:45:53] <africoala> yes, I know, but I wanna run it with
just one disk after reboot
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907[07:46:06] <africoala> I have to know this before I boot
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908[07:46:26] <africoala> I am really unsure
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910[07:46:54] <ph33r> I'd suggest going with raid zero if
you're going down to just one disk.
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911[07:46:59] <africoala> lol ph33r
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912[07:47:03] <blaztek> “The RAID array will operate if
one disk is operational.” -
replaced-url
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915[07:48:24] <africoala> okay, then I will risk the reboot -
have to do this coz this raid is in RO mode
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918[07:48:56] <blaztek> Hope all goes well
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919[07:49:01] <africoala> thanks :)
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921[07:49:03] <ph33r> Good luck!
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924[07:49:07] <africoala> yeah
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935[07:58:27] <ph33r> Africoala, how did that reboot go?
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936[07:59:22] <africoala> bad
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937[07:59:42] <africoala> the server doesn't comes back up
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947[08:04:26] <africoala> the boots hangs at the controler
output
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959[08:10:58] <ph33r> Odd, did you put it in raid zero? Or keep
it in raid one?
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969[08:14:19] <africoala> raid one
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970[08:15:10] <africoala> but its a software raid anyway and not
the root partition/disk, the raid is just a data storage
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971[08:15:24] <africoala> so it should boot at least
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977[08:20:32] <africoala> huhu karimb
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/dev/sdb on
/srv/docker/containers/0a8785ff292a7e78638b178c5d640849df53990da7f53708936cd5518deec60d/mounts
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1059[09:04:42] <slax0r> oskie: you can't bind a device to a
dir afaik
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1099[09:27:13] <michael2> when the command `umount' is run -
does umount automatically perform sync with the disk (i.e. finish
flushing buffer to disk) ?
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1108[09:35:04] <sn00bie> hi ive some mainboard with an i2c gpio
chip pca9554, how can i get this chip to work?
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1115[09:36:09] <sn00bie> i load the module i2c-detect and now i
get a list of i2c bus at the mainboard, as well i load the
i2c-pca-platform, but i get no gpios.
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1117[09:36:28] <sn00bie> where is to setup the i2c address from
the gpio chip? thanks a lot
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1138[09:47:46] <edgars> hue!
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1142[09:52:59] <remy> does anyone knows how to connect my roland
mc 505 to the computer?
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1143[09:53:26] <remy> i have a midi cable with usb out
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1144[09:53:47] <remy> but nothing happens when i tried this setup
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1148[09:55:07] <fuxxy> Just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. My
ethernet interfaces are now using the "new" naming
convention. Where do I go from here to bring up network?
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1149[09:55:37] <sn00bie> @remy: lsusb - list the device?
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1150[09:56:19] <fuxxy> Oh, I guess it's *not* the new
predictable name. My new device is ens32, and the predicitable names
are similar to enp6s0
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1152[09:56:40] <remy> sn00bie,
replaced-url
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1154[09:57:39] <remy> i already seach "1a86:752d
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1157[09:58:04] <jelly> fuxxy: that's still the predictable
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1165[09:59:17] <fuxxy> jelly, oh? I renamed the interface in
/etc/network/interfaces, but after a reboot, the interface still
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1166[10:00:08] <sn00bie> @remy unplug the device and check if
some position is removed
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1169[10:00:53] <fuxxy> I don't mind clearing out all the
"old" naming conventions and running the fresh naming on
systemd, but I'm not sure where to start
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1171[10:01:53] <remy> sn00bie, nope.. it`s stays the same
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1173[10:02:35] <sn00bie> @remy so it is a hardware issue, try an
different pc or usb cable
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1176[10:04:59] <remy> i already testedit on windows,but the cable
is oke i think
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1178[10:05:53] <remy> sn00bie, nothing happens
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1180[10:06:59] <sn00bie> @remy even on windows nothing happens?
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1181[10:07:21] <remy> yes..
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1182[10:07:21] <sn00bie> update the firmware on the device?
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1183[10:07:52] <remy> how can i do that without a internet
connection on th mc 505
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1185[10:08:16] <remy> sn00bie, it does not connect
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1196[10:12:06] <thow> i have stretch and it seems netsnmp
doesn't get well with mariadb :( i can't run snmptrapd:
symbol lookup error:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnetsnmptrapd.so.30: undefined symbol:
my_progname
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1199[10:13:52] <sn00bie> @remy:
replaced-url
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1201[10:14:56] <remy> i`ll try that
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1207[10:17:24] <remy> sn00bie, 1) Connect the MIDI OUT of an
external sequencer to the MIDI IN
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1208[10:17:24] <remy> of the MC-505.
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1209[10:17:39] <remy> i need a sequencer ?
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1210[10:18:02] <remy> i tought my computer is the seq.
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1211[10:19:11] <remy> sn00bie, does not work..it`s a pitty
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1216[10:19:54] <fuxxy> Hmm, looks like it was as simple as
editing the correct /etc/systemd/network/example.network and running
'systemctl enable systemd-networkd && systemctl start
systemd-networkd'
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1217[10:20:05] <fuxxy> let's see if it persists on reboot
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1220[10:21:09] <fuxxy> Nope, interface was not brought back up
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1231[10:24:58] <fuxxy> the interface is brought back up by
restarting systemd-networkd
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1241[10:32:35] <katapultsiege> shouldn't these man pages be
outside of debian "main"?
replaced-url
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1242[10:32:39] <sn00bie> remy sry i dont know about that
device...
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1244[10:33:43] <babilen> katapultsiege: Why do you think so?
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1246[10:34:11] <katapultsiege> babilen: because their
"RESTRICTIONS" make it such that they are not free
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1247[10:34:47] <katapultsiege> afiak the Debian
"contract" prohibits any non-free content to be in
"main"
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1248[10:35:27] <babilen> Which license is that and how do the
restrictions violate DFSG?
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1253[10:36:47] <babilen> Looks like the MIT license, might want
to read up on that in the context of DFSG
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1254[10:36:51] <katapultsiege> babilen: I don't know what
license it is, but it looks like MIT. The restriction in particular
is "Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this
software and its documentation ... without fee"
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1255[10:37:18] <Ool> MIT licence is a free licence isn't it
?
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1257[10:37:32] <katapultsiege> yes but there is a "no
fees" restriction
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1258[10:37:50] <katapultsiege> which means you can't even
redistribute a Debian DVD for a fee
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1259[10:38:15] <africoala> why would that be
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1260[10:38:20] <babilen> If you believe that it is a breach of
DFSG, you might want to write a mail to debian-legal and investigate
the issue.
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1261[10:38:20] <katapultsiege> africoala: what?
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1263[10:38:28] <africoala> a debian dvd for a fee
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1264[10:39:09] <babilen> "Permission to use, copy, modify,
and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose
and without fee is hereby granted" -- is that the clause that
you think causes issues here?
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1266[10:39:20] <katapultsiege> babilen: yes
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1268[10:39:50] <katapultsiege> my interpretation is that I cannot
redistribute for a fee?
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1269[10:39:51] <Ool> incompatibility between free licences is so
stupid …
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1270[10:39:55] <babilen> That's a standard clause in MIT
licenses
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1272[10:40:22] <Ool> but this time I don"t think so
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1276[10:41:04] <babilen> Either way, take it to debian-legal if
you think that's an issue. Given that MIT licenses are quite
standard, I'd be surprised if your reading of that clause is
correct
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1277[10:41:07] <babilen> But IANAL
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1278[10:41:12] <katapultsiege> maybe I'm reading it wrong.
Does it mean that they grant me the right without having to pay them
a fee, or that they grant me the right to redistribute only if I do
not apply a fee?
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1284[10:42:28] <katapultsiege> I'll ask debian-legal but I
think my original interpretation wa probbaly wrong
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1285[10:42:29] <katapultsiege> sorry
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1290[10:43:06] <babilen> My understanding of that sentence is
that you are granted the right to redistribute without a fee
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1293[10:43:34] <katapultsiege> is there a debian-legal irc
channel?
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1294[10:43:38] <babilen> As in: You do not *have* to charge/pay
fees/royalties if you distribute
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1295[10:43:56] <JustASlacker> but you can
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1297[10:44:00] <blaztek> katapultsiege: to me it’s just a
restriction that requires perpetual use of that text so MIT will get
credit
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1298[10:44:00] <babilen> I'm referring to
replaced-url
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1299[10:44:08] <babilen> blaztek: exactly
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1301[10:44:18] <JustASlacker> lots of people selling linux / open
source software
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1302[10:44:28] <babilen> But seriously, this is one of the oldest
licenses in use and a very short one
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1303[10:44:58] <babilen> There are many discussions of this
license (e.g.
replaced-url
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1310[10:48:11] <JustASlacker> hell, these days even Microsoft is
using MIT licensed stuff
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1312[10:49:51] <katapultsiege> JustASlacker: not disputing that,
just saying that that license can be read at least in 2 ways
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1322[10:54:53] <sn00bie> i ve an pca9554 at the i2c bus, have sb
any information howto get the "custom" device to operate?
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1323[10:55:07] <sn00bie> it is an i2c gpio expander
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1325[10:56:14] <bites> sn00bie: is that a raspberry pi with
raspbian?
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1330[10:56:54] <sn00bie> no it is an 64bit intel supermicro board
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1378[11:17:40] <garries> In order to install debian, which dvd
sould i download. 1 , 2 or 3 ?
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1385[11:21:27] <jarco> I am trying to create a new user on my
debian server When I enter it it returns: Bad password: is too
simple
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1388[11:21:51] <jarco> This is weird to me since i am using a
very long password of randomly generated letters
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1391[11:22:54] <jarco> I mean, its a random string of 60
characters, seems a hard enough entropy
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1398[11:26:52] <thblt> jarco: maybe your server is configured to
require some special characters as well.
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1399[11:27:06] <thblt> jarco: also. 60 random characters sound
useless. Why?
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1401[11:27:44] <remy> sn00bie, thanks after all
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1403[11:27:56] <deadrom> hi
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1405[11:29:26] <deadrom> in a bit of a pickle: need to install on
a VM I cannot access the config interface. an installed-to-death deb
is installed on the target machine, I can ssh in but no insert
install media. idea: from other VM clone everything over, change
hostname/IP. so far so good, but what's the proper tool to do
so? rsync over ssh partion by partition?
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1411[11:31:26] <jarco> thblt: I have made it 60 long because I
will never use it and the entropy is good when it is long
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1413[11:31:27] <ViperXL75> Is it possible to read the code in a
binary in Debian? I know that windows sends you into the woods with
hexeditor/assembly. But i have no clue how Linux handles it.
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1415[11:31:49] <thblt> jarco: you know you can create an user
without a password at all, right? Not an empty password, just no
password
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1416[11:32:24] <jarco> mmm yes, I could do that also, I
don't know if it needed one to be able to use an ssh key later
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1418[11:33:02] <thblt> jarco: no, you just have to enable
passwordless sudo if you plan to sudo
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1419[11:33:05] <alkisg> deadrom: I think the main problem
isn't "how to copy", but "how to copy over files
that are in use". You can't really do that, so you'd
need to clone to another dir, e.g. /target, and then somehow move
the /target to / on reboot.
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1420[11:33:05] <alkisg> I usually put a grub entry to netboot the
VM instead from my server, so that I have complete control over its
disk (i.e. nothing in use)...
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1421[11:33:15] <jarco> But I figured out it needed a special char
too. Appearantly someone who made this requirement tought a special
char is harder to guess for a bot :)
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1423[11:34:14] <PerfDave> jarco: adduser --disabled-password
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1424[11:34:55] <deadrom> alkisg: ah, forgot that bit
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1425[11:35:02] <thblt> jarco:
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1426[11:35:31] <thblt> jarco: well given a reasonable
temporization between attempts, I'd say special characters do
help.
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1428[11:35:48] <ViperXL75> guess not
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1429[11:35:53] <thblt> jarco: also it hints at what a strong
password looks like.
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1431[11:36:16] <thblt> but in the real world, it's probably
more efficient to run john on new passwords than to require some
special properties.
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1435[11:37:21] <jarco> I didn't get a hint, but its fixed
now anyway :)
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1436[11:37:41] <jarco> PerfDave: will it still be able to login
with ssh keys then?
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1440[11:38:13] <thblt> jarco: again, yes. No password != no login
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1443[11:38:56] <jarco> awesome thanks
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1445[11:39:07] <thblt> ViperXL75: you mean disassembly?
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1447[11:39:46] <thblt> ViperXL75: but yes basically, you need a
disassembler
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1496[12:00:54] <hummingbird> hi everyoen
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1499[12:01:30] <hummingbird> anyone looking forward to the new
stable release>
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1500[12:01:33] <hummingbird> ?
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1503[12:02:37] <PerfDave> hummingbird: I'm not holding my
breath given it's a year away :)
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1507[12:04:35] <hummingbird> hmm yea the temptation to jump to
testing or unstable is strong
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1509[12:05:18] <PerfDave> Why? Stretch is fine :)
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1512[12:06:45] <hummingbird> That is what I keep telling myself
as well whenever I want to switch
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1513[12:07:23] <hummingbird> But some packages feels like they
are a thousand years old
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1515[12:07:35] <PerfDave> If you don't have a pressing
reason, why give up security support and stability?
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1516[12:07:44] <ViperXL75> thblt: Thanks for your reply. I'm
used to windows environments.
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1520[12:09:12] <ViperXL75> thblt: I've seen that in Linux
sometimes applications run, but the source code is readable. But I
am starting to understand that you can have applications that run
with readable sourcecode and others that run with a unreadable
binary file(like windows Executables). Took me awhile to figure that
one out. But thanks.
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1521[12:09:36] <thblt> ViperXL75: you're looking for the
difference between interpreted and compiled programming languages
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1523[12:09:52] <hummingbird> Testing and unstable get their
security support through normal updates, while in stable you can
specify that you only want security updates, right?
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1529[12:11:11] <thblt> ViperXL75: Unix systems provide some
facilities for running interpreted languages as if they were regular
binaries, which doesn't exist in Windows AFAIK.
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1530[12:11:24] <thblt> s/doesn't/don't (these
facilities)
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1535[12:14:41] <sn00bie> remy: you are welcome
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1537[12:15:13] <sn00bie> where can i get support for i2c gpio
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1538[12:15:18] <sn00bie> it is an industrial computer
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1539[12:15:23] <ViperXL75> well i must admit that it does make
Linux a less obscure OS to handle with. Even though it still scares
the crap outta me. :P
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1604[12:46:45] <WhatisRT_> hi! I'm having weird issues with
my path... I have a bash script that calls the executable
type-parser, which is in ~/.local/bin. I added that to my PATH, but
the script still does not find it
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1606[12:47:32] <WhatisRT_> I added a line env | grep PATH in the
script just before the executable is called, and it lists
~/.local/bin in there
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1607[12:47:32] <alkisg> WhatisRT_: note that ~ is expended by the
shell, you shouldn't be using it in scripts
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1609[12:48:05] <WhatisRT_> so I should not add ~/ but instead the
full path to my PATH?
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1611[12:48:20] <alkisg> Yes, especially if other users can ru nit
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1613[12:48:34] <WhatisRT_> ok, thanks
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1632[13:03:49] <azonenberg> Hi guys, having an interesting issue
with gnome-calculator on debian with xfce
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1635[13:04:16] <azonenberg> help|about reports version 3.22.3,
i'm on debian 9 fully patched amd64
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1636[13:04:44] <azonenberg> It seems like it sometimes reports
incorrect results based on ignoring the last thing you type in the
edit box before hitting enter
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1638[13:04:52] <azonenberg> for example 9+15 sometimes reports 10
instead of 24
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1639[13:04:55] <azonenberg> because it was parsed as 9+1
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1642[13:05:27] <azonenberg>
replaced-url
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1643[13:05:36] <azonenberg> anybody seen this before?
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1645[13:06:30] <azonenberg> (note that the command log shows the
correct text and the wrong result)
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1647[13:09:19] <bites> azonenberg: sure that's the right
link? i can't get a dns lookup for that address.
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1650[13:09:35] <azonenberg> bites: grrr my vps is down
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1651[13:09:38] <azonenberg> (the box hosts DNS for itself)
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1652[13:09:45] <bites> hehe
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1653[13:09:46] <azonenberg> let me upload to somewhere else
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1655[13:10:08] <azonenberg> silly me thinking a datacenter would
have higher uptime than my business cable + UPS + generator setup
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1656[13:10:09] <azonenberg> lol
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1659[13:11:04] <azonenberg> bites:
replaced-url
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1661[13:11:55] <bites> gnome calculator is bad at math lol
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1662[13:12:13] <azonenberg> But what's interesting is, and
i've seen this repeatedly (no obvious triggers for it,
sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't)
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1663[13:12:22] <azonenberg> it appears to consistently not parse
the last character i type
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1664[13:12:30] <azonenberg> The rest of the calculation is right
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1665[13:12:35] <azonenberg> like, 1000 / 10 will sometimes report
1000
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1666[13:12:40] <azonenberg> because it thinks i divided by 1
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1668[13:13:16] <azonenberg> i'm assuming the keyboard
driver/input stack is fine since it's getting the keystrokes
right
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1671[13:13:24] <azonenberg> the bug has to be in the expression
parsing engine
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1674[13:14:01] <bites> #811503
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1675[13:14:02] <judd> Bug
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1676[13:14:11] <bites> this seems to be the same bug.
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1679[13:15:02] <bites> and upstream is already on it.
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1681[13:15:54] <azonenberg> on it, meaning the maintainer
commented on the bug 2 years ago and hasn't touched it since?
lol
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1683[13:16:44] <bites> yeah, should have been alredy fixed.
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1685[13:17:48] <azonenberg> yeah well clearly it hasnt
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1686[13:17:51] <bites> this was reported for 3.18 and stretch has
3.22. you could ask on the mailing list for the progress and remind
them that the bug is still there.
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1687[13:17:52] <azonenberg> that was 3.18.x
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1688[13:18:05] <Guest8391> Hi, I have a file with the follow
contents
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1689[13:18:05] <azonenberg> this should be a fairly high priority
bug
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1691[13:18:12] <azonenberg> i mean a calculator should give
correct results :p
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1692[13:18:35] <azonenberg> Is the mailing list guest-sendable or
am i gonna have to register?
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1695[13:19:31] <bites> on gnome.org you need to register it
seems.
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1697[13:20:27] <michael2> does anyone know, when the command
`umount' is run - does umount automatically perform sync with
the disk (i.e. finish flushing buffer to disk) ?
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1699[13:20:54] <Kelsar> michael2: the kernel does this, yes
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1701[13:21:32] <Guest8391> I developed my grep further to use
this now cat file | grep -o 'SIP/.*)' which looks
promising. Can I set on the grep after the wildcard to only continue
till it encouters a ) char?
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1702[13:22:21] <Kelsar> Guest8391: useless use of cat ;)
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1704[13:22:41] <Kelsar> grep -o 'SIP/.*)' file
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1705[13:22:47] <michael2> Kelsar: do you know if the syncing
happens before or after detaching the filesystem from the device?
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1706[13:23:03] <hummingbird> azonenberg: is it possible to switch
to another calculator app?
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1707[13:23:04] <Kelsar> michael2: detaching the filesystem from
the device?
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1708[13:23:06] <Guest8391> Ok sure, I can change that. But still
I need the wildcard match to stop when it encounters a )
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1709[13:23:10] <Guest8391> that would give me the entire
SIP/username part
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1710[13:23:32] <Kelsar> michael2: it is part of the cleanup from
the mount, the kernel flushes its bufferts to disk
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1711[13:23:42] <PerfDave> grep -o 'SIP/[^)]*' file
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1712[13:24:07] <azonenberg> hummingbird: sure, got one to
suggest? I mostly want easy binary bit twiddling and base conversoin
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1713[13:24:30] <azonenberg> alternatively, $5 by paypal to
anybody who sends me a patch that fixes that bug :p
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1715[13:24:33] <Kelsar> michael2: what is your actual problem?
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1716[13:24:43] <michael2> Kelsar: ah, I was thinking of the disks
buffers - not the kernel buffer
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1717[13:25:02] <Guest8391> PerfDave: cool. Not sure what is
happening there
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1718[13:25:04] <Kelsar> michael2: disk buffers are kernel buffers
or do you mean on hardware memory?
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1719[13:25:18] <Kelsar> michael2: like the cache on the drive
itself
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1721[13:26:49] <PerfDave> Guest8391: . is any character; [] is
any character inside the square brackets; ) is a bracket and ^ is a
negator. So [^)] is "Any character that isn't )", and
[^)]* is "0 or more characters which aren't )"
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1723[13:26:52] <hummingbird> azonenber: i use SpeedCrunch, but
I'm not sure if that has what you are looking for
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1724[13:27:10] <PerfDave> Guest8391: So you're searching for
"SIP/" followed by 0 or more characters which aren't
)
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1726[13:27:44] <Kelsar> PerfDave: not sure about debian defaults,
but doesn't he need -e for that?
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1727[13:27:44] <hummingbird> azonenberg: i use SpeedCrunch, but
I'm not sure if that has what you are looking for
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1728[13:27:58] <PerfDave> Kelsar: Not according to my testing :)
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1730[13:28:34] <PerfDave> Kelsar: I also think you mean grep -E,
or egrep :)
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1732[13:28:45] <Guest8391> Ok, cool
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1733[13:28:57] <Kelsar> true
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1735[13:30:15] <michael2> Kelsar: I was thinking of the hard disk
cache. but what really want to know is - if I run `umount
/some/mounted/folder' and umount completes with exit code 0.
can I have confidence that the device (USB) is safe to remove? i.e.
all file descriptors closed, kernel buffers written, inodes updated,
hard disk caches written - the whole deal - am I totally good to
unplug?
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1736[13:30:41] <Kelsar> michael2: yes, as long as the device
honors barriers
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1737[13:30:51] <Kelsar> if not, you out of luck anyways ;)
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1740[13:31:45] <petn-randall> michael2: If umount exits, all
buffers the kernel knows of are written and acknoledged by the disk.
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1742[13:32:16] <petn-randall> michael2: If you for some reason
should get data corruption, it's either a kernel bug, or the
USB drive in question is lying about write commits.
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1744[13:33:28] <michael2> Kelsar: cool. if I mount manually and
forget to run `unmount ...' before doing a reboot shutdown.
will debian notice my - still mounted - removal media and do its
best to perform all those housekeeping tasks?
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1745[13:33:43] <Kelsar> michael2: it will umount everything
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1746[13:33:59] <Kelsar> after killing everything else
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1747[13:34:12] <Kelsar> usually that is safe/save... what would
be correct?
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1749[13:35:33] <michael2> what about a LUKS container - which
would require the mapper to be unplugged from /dev/mapper/my_usb
after the directory is `umount'ed ? will debian unplug the
mapper? or only umount the directory?
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1757[13:36:44] <Kelsar> usually systems will try to unroll
everything
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1758[13:37:09] <Kelsar> to be fair int that case umount the
filesystem should allready be enough
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1761[13:38:53] <michael2> my thinking too. i.e. if the directory
is `umounted' then - from what you're saying - it
wouldn't matter too much if the mapper was in place because all
data transfers will have long been "closed off"
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1766[13:40:46] <michael2> I read that the luks header can get
corrupted. but I guess thats more in the case of a unpredicted,
rapid loss of power or similar - although I would have thought a
luks header would implement some kind of journaling mechanism
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1773[13:42:57] <PerfDave> michael2: I use FDE and don't
explicitly unmount things before shutdown. Would be kind of hard
with an encrypted rootfs ;)
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1777[13:45:18] <michael2> PerfDave: sweet, I'd like to get a
setup like that myself at some point. FDE?
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1780[13:46:14] <PerfDave> full-disk encryption
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1782[13:46:43] <jelly> ,v python3.6
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1783[13:46:44] <judd> Package: python3.6 on amd64 -- buster:
3.6.5~rc1-1; sid: 3.6.5-3
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1812[14:00:24] <sysx1000> hello. I'd like to have / and /usr
read-only and /home and /var mounted over nfs. How can I do that
with systemd? AFAIK it requires /var
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1813[14:00:47] <sysx1000> on boot time
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1817[14:02:30] <Brigo> sysx1000, i think it will boot anyway.
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1819[14:03:35] <sysx1000> So, fstab with /var over nfs widd to
the job correctly? No specific setup of systemd is required?
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1823[14:06:22] <chamaeleon> Yes, should do it
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1824[14:06:25] <sysx1000> I have found myriad of examples on how
to mount everything over nfs, but /usr or /var
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1825[14:06:28] <Brigo> sysx1000, i really don't know.
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1828[14:07:05] <sysx1000> My system is on tf card, so letting var
rw there will scratch it for sure
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1831[14:07:38] <Brigo> i think a systemd system should be capable
of booting without /var or /usr, though i am not sure.
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1832[14:07:38] <sysx1000> nfs
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1834[14:08:21] <chamaeleon> Well, maybe some service will fall
because don't have write permission.
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1835[14:08:23] <Brigo> sysx1000, not really even is the system is
rw there is not much writing in those directories.
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1839[14:08:47] <Brigo> configuration without /etc for sure.
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1856[14:25:29] <Kelsar> Brigo: systemd can't boot without
usr
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1862[14:28:21] <Brigo> Kelsar, what about this?
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1863[14:29:16] <Kelsar> Brigo: usually "it is not our
fault!!!" and to be fair, it is not only systemd
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1910[14:52:06] <pragomer> I want to know the speed of man lan to
my synology nas. want to copy a big file to it. what program should
I use (cp, rsync, etc) that shows mit mb/s of my lan-speed?
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1912[14:53:07] <Brigo> pragomer, i thik rsync has an option for
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1916[14:54:26] <Brigo> pragomer, --progress should do it.
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1923[14:55:39] <jakew> when i do a df i get '/dev/sda1
49278612 40515032 6230668 87% /', but when i do a du / it only
adds up to 4.652GB, what am i missing?
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1924[14:56:14] <jakew> this is a virtualbox instance of debian
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1929[14:57:16] <noodlepie> du -sm /*
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1933[14:58:36] <petn-randall> jakew: 1000 vs 1024 for kilo, and I
don't know if both tools handle sparse files the same.
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1934[14:59:06] <jakew> but i mean it's using 40gb out of the
allocated 50 when looking at df, and only 4.6gb when i do a du
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1936[14:59:27] <pragomer> thank you
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1937[14:59:40] <pragomer> i will try rsync and just copy a 20gb
image
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1938[14:59:44] <pragomer> thank u all
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1939[14:59:46] <petn-randall> jakew: That would hint that they
don't treat sparse files the same ....
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1940[14:59:58] <jakew> it ran out of space the other day and i
cant figure out what is using it all up
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1942[15:00:33] <noodlepie> du -sm /* will show you which root
directory contains what size of files. You can track the problem
down this way.
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1943[15:00:49] <jakew> noodlepie: ok it is still running
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1944[15:01:06] <noodlepie> also du -sm / will show you the
collection of file sized in the / tree.
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descriptors of deleted files will still use disk space until that FD
is closed. That used space will show up in df but not in du.
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1951[15:02:31] <jakew> hmm so it could be related to a rsync job
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1953[15:04:33] <jakew> du -sm /* finished and it added up to
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1954[15:05:52] <noodlepie> What'dit say?
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1955[15:06:07] <noodlepie> What was you biggest folder in /?
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1957[15:07:08] <noodlepie> It should be lib64 or /home
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1964[15:09:53] <Ool> diff du / df = ko // kio conversion +
reserved space for root and perhaps suppress files but still opened
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2009[15:25:32] <jakew> that was the biggest folder
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2091[16:06:06] <petn-randall> I just accidental pressed a ctrl +
key combo that deleted everything back to the first single quote in
`sed -i 's/foo/ba`, and it's not ^w. Anyone know what key
combo that was?
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2092[16:06:32] <petn-randall> I'd love to know it since ^w
would delete all including the quote.
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2095[16:07:17] <petemc> not alt b?
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2096[16:07:45] <petemc> oh, that just moves
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2097[16:08:01] <jelly> petn-randall: which shell?
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2098[16:08:10] <jelly> emacs or vi mode?
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2099[16:08:19] <jelly> which debian release? :-D
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2100[16:08:33] <petn-randall> jelly: bash, defauls which IIRC is
emacs mode.
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2102[16:08:39] <petn-randall> *default
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2103[16:08:50] <jelly> obviously emacs mode if you think ^w is
supposed to do something
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2104[16:09:02] <jelly> :wq
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2105[16:09:10] <karlpinc> :)
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2108[16:10:08] <karlpinc> petn-randall: Wouldn't ^w kill
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2110[16:10:42] <Mchammerdad> Hey guys, I cannot seem to get my
RealTek NIC to work on a fresh install. I figured out (with your
help) that it was a non-free firmware issue. I downloaded the
firmware from debian's website and dpkg -i firmware-realtek.deb
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2111[16:11:11] <petn-randall> I don't know emacs, but in my
shell it deletes everything leftwards to the first space it
encounters.
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2112[16:11:29] <Mchammerdad> However after a reboot my issue
still persists, /var/log/messages has a line that states
"rtl_nic\8168g-2 failed to load" and lsmod shows 8169
loaded.
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2113[16:11:49] <Mchammerdad> Desperately need some advice on next
steps here.
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2114[16:11:56] <karlpinc> petn-randall: I'd expect that to
be M-Backspace (alt-backspace)
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2116[16:12:07] <jelly> Mchammerdad: which version of
firmware-realtek package do you have installed right now?
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2119[16:12:23] <jelly> ,v firmware-realtek
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2120[16:12:25] <judd> Package: firmware-realtek on amd64 --
wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free:
0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free:
20161130-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-3;
stretch-backports/non-free: 20170823-1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free:
20170823-1; sid/non-free: 20170823-1
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2122[16:12:47] <Mchammerdad> jelly, 20161130-3
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2123[16:13:16] <Mchammerdad> I have 0 network access so I
can't install via apt-get
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2125[16:13:47] <jelly> that sounds right for debian 9
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2127[16:14:40] <Mchammerdad> can I manually force a
firmware/module to load? and how would I do so?
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2130[16:14:57] <petn-randall> karlpinc: Sweet $deity! I probably
pressed an equivalent, but it'll save me lots of time in the
future. Thanks!
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2132[16:15:29] <jelly> Mchammerdad: what's the exact error
line you see in dmesg?
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2133[16:15:37] <themill> petn-randall: Esc+backspace is the same
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2134[16:15:41] <jelly> Mchammerdad: is
/lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw file present on the system?
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2135[16:15:48] <karlpinc> Mchammerdad: IIRC yesterday you gave us
a pciid. judd told us: [10ec:8168] is 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI
Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller' ... with kernel module
'r8169' in stretch.
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2137[16:16:41] <petn-randall> themill: IIRC it was ctrl +
something, but I wasn't actively focusing on my keystrokes when
it happened.
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2138[16:16:49] <karlpinc> petn-randall: Installing the
emacs25-common-non-dfsg package and going through the beginning of
the tutorial for a few minutes can be a worthwhile use of time.
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2139[16:17:23] <petn-randall> I've always been annoyed that
^W also gobbles non-alphanumeric chars, so ...
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2140[16:17:35] <petn-randall> karlpinc: Might do, or I could
switch to bash vim mode. :P
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2142[16:20:00] <karlpinc> Mchammerdad: But you mentioned the 8169
module. You ment r8169, yes?
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2145[16:21:15] <Mchammerdad> jelly, karl, 2 secs while I type up
some context.
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2146[16:22:18] <jelly> Mchammerdad: you may take a camera shot of
the screen and upload the image to eg. imgur.com
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2157[16:25:34] <Mchammerdad> I'm happy report that the
continued issue of this as purely stupidity on my part.
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2158[16:25:58] <Mchammerdad> It is working as of the firmware
install, I changed the machiens location (to my office) and forgot I
had static IP settings applied.
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2162[16:27:11] <karlpinc> Mchammerdad: Good. Always helps to talk
with somebody about your problem. :)
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2163[16:28:09] <karlpinc> Mchammerdad: Might want to look through
the logs/dmesg for firmware messages and enable the non-free repo
and install more firmware if you find you need to.
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2164[16:28:19] <jelly> !win Mchammerdad
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2165[16:28:20] <dpkg> Congratulations, Mchammerdad! You have won
a one way ticket to Beirut!
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2168[16:29:39] <Mchammerdad> I will do so, thank you both for
your help.
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2203[16:44:17] <sn00bie> !win
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2205[16:44:28] <sn00bie> !win sn00bie
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2206[16:44:28] <dpkg> Congratulations, sn00bie! You have won the
time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120!
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2222[16:53:49] <galex-713> Hi
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2224[16:54:24] <galex-713> How can I create a such file that is a
connexion between two (debian) computers, so that, if I read/write
in this file, the other can write/read in an analogous file on their
system
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2225[16:54:48] <galex-713> I tried with netcat -U (however that
only works with -l), and the <> bash stream operator, but that
doesn’t work with cgoban
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2229[16:55:05] <galex-713> (I’m trying to do this to set up
a p2p cgoban connection with the gomodem protocol)
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2236[16:56:34] <jelly> galex-713: is it a regular file?
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2239[16:56:52] <galex-713> jelly: I tried with both regular files
and files created with mkfifo
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2240[16:57:02] <galex-713> though I’m not exactely sure how
do fifo files work
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2241[16:57:05] <jelly> mkfifo will be strictly local.
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2242[16:57:31] <galex-713> I use mkfifo to read/write in it with
netcat
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2245[16:57:45] <galex-713> with <>file >&0
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2247[16:58:21] <karlpinc> galex-713: I'm not sure what
you're trying to do but if netcat _almost_ works you might try
using socat instead. It works when netcat does not.
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2248[16:58:25] <galex-713> I noticed I can run two instances of
cgoban that communicate together with the gomodem protocol using a
file even if it’s a regular file, if they’re on the same
computer
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2251[16:58:49] <galex-713> karlpinc: I found its name on
stackexchange and installed it but didn’t figured out how it
works
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2259[17:04:56] <karlpinc> galex-713: debtags says cgoban is
"network::client", which means you may be able to use ssh
port forwarding with 'ssh -L'. That could be simplest. (or
-R if that's more convenient.)
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2261[17:07:28] <galex-713> karlpinc: like logging on the other
machine and launching there cgoban yet using it on my own machine?
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2262[17:07:47] <galex-713> I have to notice this is to play go
with a friend whose computer isn’t mine, so I won’t have
ssh access to it
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2264[17:07:55] <sine0> how can I add to folders and the recursive
of those into a zip
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2265[17:07:59] <sine0> as in create the zip
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2266[17:08:00] <OS-37338> /join #offsec
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2267[17:08:16] <sine0> zip -c folder1 folder2 output.zip
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2268[17:08:21] <sine0> something like that..
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2269[17:08:34] <OS-37338> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY z938Gn4mFc6
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2271[17:09:08] <petn-randall> OS-37338: You might want to change
that password NOW.
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2272[17:09:22] <galex-713> oops
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2274[17:09:27] <bug> os-37
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2275[17:09:31] <galex-713> you might want to msg/query this
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2277[17:10:00] <bug> and he's gone...
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2278[17:10:07] * PerfDave does the happy auth-by-ssl-certs dance
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2280[17:10:21] <PerfDave>
replaced-url
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2285[17:11:33] <petn-randall> PerfDave: Nice! Didn't know
about that.
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2287[17:11:51] <galex-713> karlpinc: jelly: note cgoban, in
local, doesn’t work with a file created with mkfifo, only with
a regular file
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2288[17:11:57] <galex-713> yet using the “device
file” option
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2290[17:12:15] <galex-713> there’s also a
“program” option, but it doesn’t seem to work to
simply put netcat there instead of gnugo
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2292[17:12:29] <sine0> guys he is a leet hacker, he did it on
purpose
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2294[17:13:00] <bug> it's a trap?
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2296[17:13:32] <galex-713> PerfDave: one day I’ll auth with
my pgp key using gnutls
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2300[17:14:07] <sine0> these offsec dudes always wander in here
like a friday night drunk tank, you just have to shoulder nudge them
to the nearest uber
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2323[17:27:01] <karlpinc> galex-713: A FIFO is unidirectional.
You could use socat to setup a Unix socket connected to another Unix
socket made with socat at the other end. But there's no
security. How about sharing a file with samba or nfs? (I don't
know what file sharing would look like in terms of latency or
multiple writers, but at least you'd get some security.)
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2325[17:29:03] <galex-713> karlpinc: it’s on a local
network, for now
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2327[17:29:16] <galex-713> with a looooong wpa key we’re
only two or three to know
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2328[17:29:25] <galex-713> and we’re currently only 2 in
the appartment
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2329[17:29:40] <galex-713> also setting up nfs or samba is more
complex than what I’d like
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2331[17:29:55] <galex-713> maybe samba wouldn’t… but
i’m not sure it would work in term of multiple writers
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2334[17:30:30] <galex-713> and, if I can make it work with
something such as netcat, socat, bash, etc. I might do the same as
well using gnutls-cli or something alike
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2352[17:36:30] <nmschulte> I want to install some CA certificates
to my system. I've managed to install them to /etc/ssl/certs
(via /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/ and update-ca-certificates),
but Thunderbird and Chrome don't pick these up.
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2353[17:36:58] <nmschulte> I understand there's a PKI db via
libnss at ~/.pki/nssdb, and I've updated it, but again,
Thunderbird and Chrome aren't pulling them in.
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2355[17:37:23] <nmschulte> I can add them to Thunderbird and
Chrome manually, but I'd rather do this system or user-wide.
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2356[17:37:33] <nmschulte> (is there a user-wide variant of
/etc/ssl/certs ?)
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2368[17:42:32] <ponziopilato> hi, is this a good place to ask
questions about how to use gnu make? Or what other channel can I ask
to?
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2369[17:43:18] <annadane> you can ask here, or #gnu
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2371[17:43:44] <karlpinc> galex-713: So use socat. On one end
have your go program read/write to a unix socket, made with socat
connected to a listening tcp port. On the other another socket read
and written by that side's go program, the socket connected to
a tcp connection talking to the listening port on the first
computer. But you need to run the steps in the right order. First
listen, then connect to lisening port, at which point your two unix
sockets
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2372[17:43:44] <karlpinc> exist and you can use them.
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2374[17:44:11] <galex-713> yeah, like I did with netcat
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2375[17:44:30] <galex-713> I’m just trying hard and failing
at understanding the way you use socat interface (options, etc.)
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2377[17:45:03] <galex-713> socat - TCP4-LISTEN:localhost:1234
doesn’t work for instance
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2379[17:45:13] <galex-713> (it says it has two parameters instead
of 1)
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2381[17:45:31] <tharkun> Aloha, I am trying to make the
gnome-terminal under debian transparent yet I am unaible to do so.
I've poked at different live distributions and it seems to be
possible. Where should I look for that particular config under
Debian?
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2386[17:46:42] <ponziopilato> ok I'll give it a shot. So
basically I have a fold into which I mirror files from another
place. The folder contains thousands of text files, and I'm
using 'make' to convert all of them to html/pdf. The
problem is that it takes a lot of time, but only a few files are
updated at a time. How can I tell make "look which files have
been updated, and only convert them instead of convert the whole
directory"?
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2387[17:46:46] <karlpinc> (My opinion is that transparent
terminals are like transparent toilets; a good idea until you use
them.)
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2392[17:47:31] <annadane> transparent toilets were ever a good
idea?
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2393[17:47:52] <galex-713> ponziopilato: is each file a target?
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2394[17:48:17] <karlpinc> ponziopilato: I'd think about
using wildcards in your make targets. The info docs for make are
helpful.
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2395[17:48:27] <galex-713> like do you do something such as
%.html: % ; my-convert-program $< $@
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2396[17:48:31] <ponziopilato> galex-713: so far no, I only have a
single target inside which I run a loop. I'm not sure how to
make a target for every file
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2398[17:48:49] <karlpinc> galex-713: Yah. Something like that.
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2399[17:48:57] <galex-713> ponziopilato: bad idea, also you
can’t parallelize this, while gnu make could natively
parallelize everything if you made one target per file
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2405[17:49:39] <galex-713> ponziopilato: what is your loop?
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2406[17:49:59] <galex-713> ponziopilato: if it takes more than
two lines, use paste.debian.net or another pasting service
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2407[17:50:04] <tharkun> karlpinc: Not that I want a full
transparency but since notion will no longer be ported to wayland I
better start looking for a replacement and gnome does not play well
with urxvt. The only terminal that seems to work half way good is
gnome-terminal
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2410[17:50:57] <ponziopilato> galex-713: find . -type f -name
"*.txt" | while read filename ; do convert-program done
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2414[17:51:18] <tharkun> Or a nice replacement for a fixed tabbed
wm would also work. Alt-Tab switches between too many windows so my
workflow gets totally borked.
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2416[17:51:21] <galex-713> ponziopilato: it seems your loop
doesn’t work with filenames with space in them
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2419[17:51:36] <galex-713> where do you use the
"$filename" variable?
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2420[17:51:53] <galex-713> or is it an envar your convert-program
reads internally?
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2422[17:52:05] <galex-713> s/envar/environment variable/
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2427[17:52:29] <ponziopilato> galex-713: find . -type f -name
"*.txt" | while IFS="\n" read filename ; do
txt2html "$${filename}" done
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2429[17:53:01] <galex-713> ah okay
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2430[17:53:31] <galex-713> yeah then it doesn’t support
filenames with newlines in them, but I never saw them and
that’s anyway not advised against x)
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2431[17:53:53] <ponziopilato> i'm looking at wildcards if i
can understand how they work
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2434[17:54:02] <PerfDave> ponziopilato: -print0 and
IFS=$'\0'
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2435[17:54:07] <theseb> help! i see cron when i check ps output
but still daily backup script doesn't fire!? how debug?
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2437[17:54:47] <galex-713> PerfDave: I’m almost sure ext
allows \0 in filenames :P
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2439[17:55:08] <galex-713> but now, passed \n support,
we’re almost trolling
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2440[17:55:12] <PerfDave> galex-713: It doesn't :)
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2444[17:55:17] <galex-713> sure?
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2445[17:55:21] <PerfDave> And it's easy to get this right,
so why get it wrong?
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2446[17:55:30] <galex-713> I thought the only disallowed
character was /
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2448[17:55:41] <galex-713> in fact you’re right
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2449[17:55:47] <galex-713> anything except NULL and /
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2450[17:55:53] <galex-713> how sad
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2451[17:56:06] <ponziopilato> "\n" is a valid char for
a file name?
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2452[17:56:11] <galex-713> ponziopilato: yes it is
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2453[17:56:15] <greycat> yes
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2454[17:56:15] <galex-713> on unix
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2455[17:56:21] <galex-713> not fat/ntfs/windows
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2456[17:56:25] <greycat> touch $'foo\nbar'
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2457[17:56:38] <galex-713> but nobody create such files
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2458[17:56:40] <ponziopilato> oh the more you know
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2460[17:56:50] <galex-713> except maybe if it introduces an
exploitable security hole
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2461[17:56:54] <greycat> galex-713: yes, they do. Either by
accident or by malicious intent.
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2463[17:57:05] <galex-713> but there it only means it would
uselessly update some files, that’s not that risky
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2464[17:57:16] <galex-713> greycat: by accident? people do that
by accident?
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2465[17:57:31] <galex-713> ponziopilato: doesn’t txt2html
output to stdout by default?
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2466[17:57:42] <greycat> I would guess that it's more
commonly accidental than intentional, yes. Except people like me who
do it on purpose to test things.
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2469[17:58:25] <ponziopilato> galex-713: yes i just tried to make
the example shorter because it wasn't really relevant to my
question
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2473[17:58:33] <galex-713> greycat: it’s difficult with
gui, and except with \n or by really weird usage of quotes I
can’t see how to do that otherwise
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2474[17:58:37] <greycat> I missed the context of this discussion.
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2475[17:58:39] <galex-713> ponziopilato: it is
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2476[17:58:47] <galex-713> so, if you use --output as I think
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2478[17:58:48] <greycat> galex-713: GUI? People use a GUI?
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2479[17:59:02] <galex-713> *outfile sorry
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2480[17:59:06] <galex-713> greycat: :P
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2481[17:59:15] <greycat> The most common way people end up with
bizarre filenames is accidentally pasting something with the mouse,
probably.
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2483[17:59:20] <greycat> Fat-fingering a command can also do it.
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2486[17:59:40] <galex-713> ponziopilato: so %.html : %.txt ;
txt2html '$<' --outfile '$@'
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2487[18:00:00] <greycat> Oh, it's a Makefile question? Then
I'm not the one to answer it, anyway.
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2488[18:00:07] <galex-713> this way it should support anything
but ' in file names I guess
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2491[18:00:20] <galex-713> greycat: I recently reread all the
manual of gnu make :)
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2493[18:00:26] <galex-713> that’s a usefull coincidence
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2494[18:00:27] <greycat> In #bash, we direct make questions to
##workingset
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2495[18:00:38] <galex-713> workingset?
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2497[18:01:12] <galex-713> ponziopilato: then, with -j -l
<number-of-cpu-cores+1> it’s natively parallelized
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2498[18:01:34] <ponziopilato> thanks fot the info galex-713
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2499[18:01:48] <galex-713> -j means it runs as many versions of
the programs it can at the same time
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2503[18:02:01] <greycat> Filenames with ' in them are much
more common than filenames with newlines.
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2504[18:02:03] <galex-713> and -l N means keep doing that until
the system load in below N
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2505[18:02:10] <ponziopilato> galex-713: is there also an option
to match files in subdirectories? I would guess that % only matches
the current dir
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2506[18:02:21] <galex-713> greycat: yeah :/ but I don’t
know if there’s a way to get this right with shell/make
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2507[18:02:40] <galex-713> ponziopilato: no it doesn’t it
matchs subdirectories as well
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2508[18:02:49] <galex-713> but you need a main goal to run this
on all the files
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2509[18:02:51] <greycat> The goal is to recursively transform
every *.foo file with a command, and to parallelize it?
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2510[18:04:16] <galex-713> so something such as: all: $(patsubst
%.txt,%.html,$(shell find . -type f -name "*.txt"))
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2511[18:04:20] <galex-713> at the beginning
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2512[18:04:27] <galex-713> then make, or make all, would update
everything
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2514[18:04:55] <galex-713> greycat: the goal is above all not to
update unchanged files
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2517[18:05:16] <galex-713> I was just noticing if he make each
file into a target, and use make the way it’s intended to be,
he also can parallelize this
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2518[18:05:26] <galex-713> it doesn’t need to be recursive
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2519[18:05:42] <galex-713> ponziopilato: add this: all:
$(patsubst %.txt,%.html,$(shell find . -type f -name
"*.txt"))
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2521[18:05:49] <galex-713> before the %.html line
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2522[18:05:50] <greycat> This sounds way beyond the scope of
#debian. And ponziopilato just said he wanted it in subdirectories.
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2524[18:06:10] <galex-713> greycat: using find will find files in
subdirectories
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2526[18:06:25] <galex-713> the only difference is using make
syntax instead of a while loop
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2528[18:06:53] <galex-713> greycat: he asked if this was the
right place, annadane answered that yes, here and #gnu
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2531[18:07:03] <galex-713> *they
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2532[18:07:11] <greycat> Was that before the full scope of the
problem was revealed?
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2533[18:07:17] <galex-713> yes
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2534[18:07:32] <galex-713> they asked if this was the right place
to ask a question about gnu make
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2535[18:07:37] <greycat> hahahahaha
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2536[18:07:47] <galex-713> and globally, that question is how to
use gnu make :)
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2537[18:07:48] <bites> can't take it back now :P
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2540[18:09:33] <greycat> Well, I have a solution for
"Recursively process every *.xyz file in parallel", but it
would need additional code to handle "Unless the file has
already been processed, in which case skip it."
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2543[18:10:41] <greycat> And the obvious way to add that
component would be *IN* the processing function, so you might end up
with a case where you run 4 jobs at a time, but 3 of them just do
nothing because the output file already exists. Not sure if
that's important to you or not.
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2544[18:10:41] <galex-713> greycat: I find make is the right tool
for this, they weren’t wrong on this
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2546[18:10:49] <greycat> *shrug*
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2547[18:10:57] <annadane> should i have asked them to ask in
#parrot? :D
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2548[18:10:58] <greycat> I'll defer to ##workingset or #gnu
for that.
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2549[18:11:05] <galex-713> greycat: make wouldn’t launch
useless jobs
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2551[18:11:22] <greycat> Granted, yes. But does it recursively
find all input files?
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2552[18:11:24] <galex-713> make launch alternate jobs when the
rule *has* to be remade
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2553[18:11:29] <galex-713> with find
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2554[18:11:40] <galex-713> I proposed $(patsubst
%.txt,%.html,$(shell find . -type f -name "*.txt"))
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2556[18:11:44] <greycat> I do not see how you combine make +
find.
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2557[18:11:48] <galex-713> that wouldn’t have been
parallelized though
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2559[18:12:03] <galex-713> with the shell function
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2565[18:12:35] <no_gravity> How do I get infos about a package?
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2566[18:12:40] <greycat> What info?
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2567[18:12:50] <no_gravity> Good question. Any info :)
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2568[18:13:04] <greycat> no_gravity: dpkg -s pkgname
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2570[18:13:22] <galex-713> ponziopilato: for instance, this
should work:
replaced-url
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2571[18:13:23] <greycat> that only works on installed packages...
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2572[18:13:29] <no_gravity> I see.
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2575[18:13:38] <galex-713> no_gravity: I usually use apt show
package
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2578[18:14:24] <no_gravity> So I am on a system where there is a
programm 'composer'. But 'dpkg -s composer' says
"package 'composer' is not installed and no
information is available".
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2579[18:14:26] <greycat> if you want info on a NON-installed
package, typically apt-cache show, or
replaced-url
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2580[18:14:30] <no_gravity> What do I make of this?
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2581[18:14:39] <no_gravity> How did 'composer' get onto
this system?
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2582[18:14:52] <no_gravity> got onto
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2583[18:14:57] <greycat> OK, start with "type composer"
to learn where the program actually IS.
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2584[18:15:08] <greycat> Then use "dpkg -S pathname" to
see what package, if any, the program is part of.
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2585[18:15:08] <no_gravity> composer is hashed
(/usr/local/bin/composer)
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2586[18:15:21] <greycat> It's not from a Debian package,
then.
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2587[18:15:27] <greycat> Debian packages will NEVER put programs
in /usr/local.
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2588[18:15:30] <no_gravity> dpkg-query: no path found matching
pattern /usr/local/bin/composer
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2589[18:15:48] <no_gravity> So this 'thing' will have
to be updated manually I guess.
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2592[18:16:07] <greycat> It was either installed by you, or by
someone else with the root password, or it's from a non-Debian
package.
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2593[18:16:16] <ponziopilato> galex-713: I'm trying it but I
always get this error Makefile:6: *** multiple target patterns.
Stop.
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2594[18:17:09] <no_gravity> greycat: Yeah. Looks like it's
not part of Debian:
replaced-url
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2595[18:17:21] <greycat> ... well actually it's not from a
package, because your dpkg -S already ruled that out.
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2596[18:17:47] <no_gravity> I see.
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2598[18:18:04] <greycat> So you just recently inherited this
system? You didn't install composer?
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2606[18:23:57] <galex-713> ponziopilato: I tried it and here it
works: did you add anything to your makefile?
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2607[18:24:46] <ponziopilato> no, I've tried on a test
directory and it works. I don't know if it's because the
other directory has to many files? O files with strange names?
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2609[18:24:55] <galex-713> ponziopilato: do you have filenames
containing “:”?
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2610[18:25:02] <ponziopilato> yes
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2613[18:27:44] <galex-713> ponziopilato: try this then:
replaced-url
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2614[18:28:12] <galex-713> I begin to believe make should have an
“escape” function, as well as a recursive wildcard
function
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2616[18:28:56] <ponziopilato> make is magic, how does it
understand which file was changed?
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2619[18:29:24] <galex-713> ponziopilato: it looks the
modification time
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2620[18:29:58] <galex-713> you can look it with ls -l too
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2621[18:30:21] <ponziopilato> galex-713: does it do something
like time(file.txt) - time(file.html) > 0 ?
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2623[18:30:52] <galex-713> ponziopilato: that has the downside
that if you do “touch file”, or if you change something,
then change it back so it’s the same, even if you didn’t
do make in between, make will redo the file
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2624[18:31:10] <galex-713> ponziopilato: yes exactly, it looks
which is more recent
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2626[18:31:14] <ponziopilato> cool
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2627[18:31:33] <galex-713> however it probably write it like
time(file.txt) < time(file.html), or the opposite
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2628[18:31:41] <galex-713> though assembly code would certainly
do it as you did
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2629[18:31:50] <tecneeq> rate my uptime:
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2630[18:31:50] <tecneeq> root@albundy# uname -a ; uptime
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2631[18:31:50] <tecneeq> SunOS albundy 5.6 Generic_105181-23
sun4u sparc sun4u
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2632[18:31:51] <tecneeq> 6:29pm up 2587 day(s), 5:28, 3 users,
load average: 0,18, 0,48, 0,64
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2634[18:32:02] <galex-713> tecneeq: impressive
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2636[18:32:17] <tecneeq> core system at work, nobody cares :)
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2637[18:32:25] <galex-713> ponziopilato: does it works now
anyway?
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2638[18:32:26] <jrtc27> tecneeq: have you considered installing
Debian on that? :P
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2639[18:32:44] <tecneeq> i doubt the disk would spin on if i
rebooted
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2641[18:33:02] <tecneeq> pram battery is like fuarked
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2642[18:33:24] <tecneeq> one of three fans is broken
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2643[18:33:33] <uptime> 8/10
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2644[18:33:35] <tecneeq> the power supply emits a constant whine
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2646[18:33:43] <galex-713> ponziopilato: anyway make was
precisely done with this kind of stuff in mind: update only what has
been changed, that’s the main purpose of make, so each time
you end doing loops in recipes, there’s usually a better way
to do it without loops, but with make targets
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2647[18:33:44] <tecneeq> uptime: beat me
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2650[18:35:02] <ponziopilato> galex-713: it seems to be working
so far, still working... thank you very very much!
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2652[18:35:56] <galex-713> you’re welcome :)
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2653[18:36:17] <galex-713> it has been a pleasure to make my
recent rereading of gnu make manual even more useful :)
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2654[18:36:26] <galex-713> also it’s a nice manual, you
might want to read parts of it
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2657[18:36:42] <galex-713> (though it’s only in non-free
:/)
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2666[18:38:25] <disi> why doesnt curl percent-encode urls before
sending a request?
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2672[18:38:58] <disi> whereas wget, for example, does
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2700[18:53:12] <jhutchins_wk> Because they're different
programs.
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2706[18:56:14] <tinix> uhh... is realtime kernel missing for
anyone else?
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2708[18:57:11] <tw> ,v linux-image-rt
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2709[18:57:11] <judd> No package named 'linux-image-rt'
was found in amd64.
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2710[18:57:31] <tw> ,v linux-image-rt-amd64
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2711[18:57:32] <judd> Package: linux-image-rt-amd64 on amd64 --
wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-security: 3.2+46+deb7u1; jessie-backports:
4.9+80+deb9u2~bpo8+2; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u4; stretch-security:
4.9+80+deb9u4; stretch-backports: 4.14+89~bpo9+1
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2712[18:58:05] <tinix> E: Unable to locate package
linux-image-rt-amd64
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2713[18:58:06] <tinix> <_<
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2716[18:58:53] <tinix> i'm on buster fwiw
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2717[18:58:55] <disi> jhutchins_wk: presumably following the same
standards? shouldnt the http client always do the encoding?
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2718[18:59:02] <greycat> !debian-next
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2719[18:59:03] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2720[18:59:27] <tinix> ugh
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2724[19:00:58] <tinix> why the hell is the testing channel on a
whole different IRC network
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2725[19:00:59] <tinix> lolwut
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2726[19:01:21] <greycat> From the Debian Developers' point
of view, it's *we* who are on the different IRC network.
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2727[19:01:38] <greycat> All of the other Debian channels are
over there, including another #debian.
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2728[19:02:06] <tinix> i see
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2729[19:02:12] <tinix> thanks
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2732[19:03:08] <kazdax> i am installing debian as my primary OS
on my computer
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2734[19:03:28] <kazdax> and its still stuck on configuring
xserver-xorg-legacy configuration
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2735[19:03:34] <kazdax> does this part take time in installation
process ?
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2736[19:03:40] <kazdax> or is my installer stuck..the mouse moves
btw
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2778[19:21:43] <jhutchins_wk> !oftc
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2779[19:21:44] <dpkg> OFTC is the Open and Free Technology
Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC
network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network.
replaced-url
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2782[19:22:14] <jhutchins_wk> Yeah, I know, msg the bot.
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2784[19:22:29] <annadane> i'm just teasing
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2785[19:22:39] <althalus_> is there a bash command to kill all
previous background commands that used command & command &
after like 30 mins..
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2790[19:24:01] <mutante> althalus_: maybe a combination of
"jobs -p" and kill and a for-loop
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2791[19:24:02] <greycat> althalus_: ... uh ... sleep 30m; kill
$(jobs -p) ?
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2792[19:24:10] <mutante> what greycat said :)
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2795[19:24:21] <greycat> This sounds like a really bad idea.
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2796[19:24:30] <althalus_> that kills all the background job on
that terminal?
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2797[19:24:39] <greycat> No. All jobs of the current shell.
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2799[19:25:12] <althalus_> isnt shell a terminal?
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2800[19:25:12] <greycat> If you launched some jobs from shell A,
then launched shell B, then launched some more jobs, it will only
get the jobs from shell B.
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2801[19:25:15] <greycat> No.
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2802[19:25:32] <greycat> Type "bash" inside bash and
now you have two shells on the same terminal.
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2803[19:26:06] <althalus_> im talking in a terminal command a
& command b & command c & sleep 30; kill commanda,b,c,
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2805[19:26:29] <greycat> If you never launch a new shell, then
sure, the command I gave will work.
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2807[19:26:35] <althalus_> im talking about one terminal
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2809[19:26:43] <greycat> I still think this is a really bad idee.
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2810[19:26:46] <greycat> idea.
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2811[19:27:00] <althalus_> if it works it works
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2812[19:27:04] <greycat> What is the actual problem you are
trying to solve?
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2813[19:27:08] <althalus_> in linux bad ideas are very subjective
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2814[19:27:19] <althalus_> that one i just show you
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2815[19:27:23] <greycat> *sigh*
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2816[19:27:24] <greycat> !xy
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2818[19:27:25] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you
need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We
suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell
us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely
diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's
easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See
replaced-url
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2819[19:27:30] <althalus_> the wait commands lags like a mother
fucker
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2820[19:27:49] <greycat> You know what "wait" does,
right? "Lags" is not even applicable.
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2821[19:28:05] <greycat> That's like saying "Boy, that
sleep command sure lags like a mofo"
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2822[19:28:13] <althalus_> well i dont what its doing but it sure
takes a long ass time
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2823[19:28:19] <greycat> ...
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2824[19:28:36] <althalus_> well the commands i am running should
not be taking 2 hours to finish
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2827[19:28:59] <greycat> So your solution is "just kill
them", instead of finding out why they are taking longer than
expected?
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2828[19:29:24] <greycat> And also instead of simply using timeout
on each one?
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2829[19:29:29] <althalus_> even when i do timeout 15m command a
& timeout15m commandb & timeout command c & wait ..still
takes a long ass time so i know something is off
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2830[19:29:38] <greycat> ... and you already knew about timeout
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2831[19:29:39] <althalus_> see i bet you to it :P
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2832[19:29:43] <greycat> !wayttd
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2833[19:29:44] <dpkg> What Are You Trying To Do?
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2834[19:29:46] <althalus_> yep
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2835[19:29:46] <althalus_> already tried
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2837[19:30:05] <althalus_> running commands at the same time in
the background
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2838[19:30:10] <althalus_> without consecutive ;
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2839[19:30:14] <althalus_> then wait
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2840[19:30:25] <althalus_> without it taking 2 hours
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2841[19:30:26] <greycat> wait waits for them all to exit.
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2842[19:30:31] <greycat> "help wait"
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2843[19:31:10] <althalus_> well if they all timeout at 15 minutes
then wait is waiting for something i dont want it to wait for :)
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2844[19:31:17] <mutante> could go further and ask _why_ it
actually matters it doesn't take longer than 2 hours.
can't you just fire it up and go to sleep and check back later
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2845[19:31:32] <greycat> mutante: NOOOO, that would require
REVEALING INFORMATION
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2846[19:31:40] <greycat> WE CAN'T REVEAL INFORMATION
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2847[19:31:41] <althalus_> i have my reasons for a more efficient
run
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2848[19:31:45] <greycat> *plonk*
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2849[19:31:49] <althalus_> still dont know why the kill all is a
bad idea
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2850[19:31:54] <greycat> WE HAVE OUR REASONS
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2851[19:32:13] <jhutchins_wk> althalus_: Why aren't you
running them in the foreground to see what they're doing? You
could use screen with seperate windows for each one, that way
you'd get whatever output they're showing.
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2852[19:32:16] <althalus_> lmao
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2853[19:32:44] <althalus_> well obviously wait is a piece of shit
if timeout all of the commands is not sufficient
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2854[19:33:06] <greycat> WE WON'T TELL YOU WHAT THE COMMANDS
ARE, WHAT THEY DO, WHAT OUTPUT THEY GENERATE, HOW MANY WE'RE
RUNNING, WHETHER THEY ARE CPU-BOUND OR I/O-BOUND, WHAT WE'VE
ALREADY TRIED, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, ...
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2856[19:33:17] <jhutchins_wk> althalus_: if it were, it would
have been dropped long ago. You just don't understand it.
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2859[19:34:16] <althalus_> jhutchins_wk: well i dont understand
why it waits 2 hours AFTER all the commands have timeout..so your
right i dont understand "it"
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2867[19:36:45] <jhutchins_wk> althalus_: Again, run them in the
forground and see what's going on. Read the wait documents and
see if some exit conditions don't trigger it.
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2869[19:38:19] <greycat> Might be better to have each one write
to a separate log file.
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2872[19:40:19] <althalus_> well im trying that sleep 30m kill
method now..hopefully that will work
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2906[19:55:17] <Kobaz> anyone familiar with early-ssh? I'm
trying to get it to start... not sure how to debug why it's not
starting at all
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2908[19:55:36] <Kobaz> boot the kernel with initrd pointed to the
current one and it just does a normal boot
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2919[20:02:04] <glm> Anyone knows if there are RAM limitations
for debian amd64?
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2920[20:02:28] <Kobaz> shouldn't be
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2922[20:03:00] <glm> I have 2 servers with 256GB of RAM and both
are throwing ECC errors that freeze the server
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2923[20:03:15] <glm> Vendor says it's probably related to
debian memory limits but I smell BS
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2924[20:03:27] <Tenkawa> what specific ecc errors?
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2925[20:04:23] <Kobaz> did you run memory testing?
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2926[20:04:27] <Kobaz> (memtest86)
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2929[20:05:34] <Kobaz> what kkernel version?
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2930[20:05:48] <glm> One is giving me IPMI messages of type 0x0C
(Memory), Dir type 0x6F with data 0x3B80 (which is a DIMM location)
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2932[20:06:11] <glm> Which sounds like a faulty DIMM...
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2936[20:07:07] <glm> The other one hangs stiff with a console
message:
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2937[20:07:16] <glm> Node0: DRAM uncorrectable ECC Error
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2950[20:10:03] <Kobaz> [14:04:22] <Kobaz> did you run
memory testing?
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2951[20:10:04] <Kobaz> [14:04:27] <Kobaz> (memtest86)
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2952[20:10:34] <Tenkawa> (its on the debian install cd)
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2953[20:10:40] <glm> running as we speak :)
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2954[20:10:44] <Tenkawa> ah
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2955[20:10:56] <Kobaz> what test # are you on?
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2956[20:11:29] <Kobaz> if it gets past #5, there's unlikely
any physical memory problems
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2957[20:11:41] <Tenkawa> how big cpu's/psu's btw?
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2963[20:12:59] <glm> 300W...for 4xHDDs and 256GB of
RAM...(vendor's choice)
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2968[20:13:40] <Tenkawa> ok.
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2976[20:15:26] <Tenkawa> seems a bit low to me..
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2978[20:15:31] <Tenkawa> but thats just me
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2979[20:15:38] <Kobaz> that's a little underspec'd
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2980[20:15:39] <Kobaz> yeah
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2982[20:16:04] <glm> Indeed
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2986[20:17:01] <Tenkawa> that wattage would cause underruns and I
think be very likerly to make incosistent ram errors
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2987[20:17:10] <Tenkawa> but thats just my opinion
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2988[20:17:40] <Kobaz> umm
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2989[20:17:46] <Kobaz> yeah
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2990[20:17:49] <Kobaz> 300 watt's is like
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2991[20:17:55] <Kobaz> bare minimum to get the box booted
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2992[20:18:03] <Kobaz> as soon as you do ANYTHING on that
it's going to be underpowered
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2994[20:18:33] <Kobaz> i just did a quick calculation and with a
bare minimum xeon and that much ram and 4 hard drives you're
looking at 400-500 under load
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2996[20:19:09] <glm> It's an opteron, but yeah. it holds
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2997[20:19:44] <Kobaz> you need like a 650+ watt psu in there
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2998[20:19:54] <Kobaz> you should shut it down before something
gets dammaged from underpower
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2999[20:19:58] <Kobaz> which may have occurred already
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3000[20:20:28] <rhizome> literally everyhting going wrong with
this md raid upgrade
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3001[20:20:49] <Kobaz> 300 is barely enough for anything at all,
barely a desktop
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3002[20:20:56] <Kobaz> wtf vendor sold you that
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3003[20:21:03] <Tenkawa> yeah I was looking at whats being sold
nowadays and minimum is 400+
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3004[20:21:20] <Kobaz> and you dont spec the PSU for "just
enough"
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3005[20:21:22] <Tenkawa> rhizome: ouch
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3006[20:21:27] <Kobaz> you want 50% headroom
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3008[20:21:56] <izaoeuoisdf> hi
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3009[20:22:28] <izaoeuoisdf> What happens if i do apt-get install
sqlite3
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3010[20:22:44] <Kobaz> new and exciting software will be
installed... like sqlite3
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3011[20:22:45] <izaoeuoisdf> does this update the shared library
installed on Debian, or the Python module named sqlite3?
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3013[20:22:49] <rhizome> it will install sqlite3. is this a trick
question?
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3014[20:23:00] <izaoeuoisdf> rhizome: yes, tricky because there
are 3 possible things:
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3015[20:23:01] <Kobaz> izaoeuoisdf: no. python libs will not be
isntalled
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3016[20:23:07] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: do an apt-cache show
sqlite3 first
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3017[20:23:10] <izaoeuoisdf> either sqlite as a shared library
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3018[20:23:21] <izaoeuoisdf> either python module named sqlite3
"import sqlite3"
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3019[20:23:22] <Tenkawa> and that gives you more info
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3020[20:23:24] <glm> Thanks Kobaz
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3022[20:23:30] <Kobaz> it will install the sqlite3 probram
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3023[20:23:33] <Kobaz> program
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3024[20:23:51] <izaoeuoisdf> ok
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3025[20:23:58] <izaoeuoisdf> here is my problem:
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3027[20:24:07] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: you need to block it if you
dont want it to be upgraded
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3028[20:24:12] <izaoeuoisdf> Python module sqlite3 is installed
(built-in in Python)
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3029[20:24:15] <rhizome> google is all about returning results
from 2009 for all queries
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3030[20:24:30] <izaoeuoisdf> and I don't find how to update
it
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3031[20:24:49] <izaoeuoisdf> I tried "pip install
pysqlite" (another name for the Python module named sqlite3)
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3033[20:25:00] <izaoeuoisdf> but then it updates the Python
wrapper, but not the actual library
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3034[20:25:15] <izaoeuoisdf> so my question is: how to update the
sqlite3 module?
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3039[20:26:39] <izaoeuoisdf> I tried: apt-get install
--only-upgrade sqlite3
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3040[20:26:52] <izaoeuoisdf> but I get: Skipping sqlite3, it is
not installed and only upgrades are requested.
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3041[20:27:08] <izaoeuoisdf> but sqlite3 _is_ installed, because
I can access it via Python...
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3042[20:27:12] <izaoeuoisdf> thus my misunderstanding...
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3044[20:27:41] <greycat> izaoeuoisdf: dpkg -l | grep sqlite
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3046[20:28:30] <izaoeuoisdf> I have this:
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3047[20:28:33] <izaoeuoisdf> ii libsqlite3-0:amd64
3.8.2-1ubuntu2.1 amd64 SQLite 3 shared library
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3048[20:28:33] <izaoeuoisdf> ii libsqlite3-dev:amd64
3.8.2-1ubuntu2.1 amd64 SQLite 3 development files
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3050[20:28:51] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: python-pysqlite1.1
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3051[20:28:51] <greycat> then those are the package names
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3052[20:29:04] <Tenkawa> try installing that
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3054[20:29:43] <greycat> but he said he already has it working in
python...
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3055[20:29:52] <Tenkawa> oh ok
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3056[20:29:58] <izaoeuoisdf> greycat: yes sqlite3 is built-in
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3057[20:29:59] <greycat> I'm really not sure what his goal
is.
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3058[20:30:08] <Tenkawa> didnt see he had the python piece
working
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3059[20:30:14] <greycat> Oh. I just saw the version numbers.
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3060[20:30:20] <greycat> !tell izaoeuoisdf about ubuntu
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3062[20:30:39] <izaoeuoisdf> there's a 3rd thing adding even
more confusion: there's a pysqlite library, which is close but
not exactly the same packaging than built in sqlite3 module
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3065[20:31:11] <izaoeuoisdf> greycat: oh that's right, this
is an ubuntu... all my other installs are debian, and i even forgot
this one is still on ubuntu
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3066[20:31:23] <izaoeuoisdf> my bad
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3067[20:31:57] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: do you have an error output
that you can pastebin that shows what is not working?
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3069[20:32:04] <Tenkawa> that would add context
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3071[20:32:30] <izaoeuoisdf> Tenkawa: I need to use a feature
that is present on Sqlite 3.9.0
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3072[20:32:33] <izaoeuoisdf> and I have 3.8.2 :/
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3074[20:32:57] <greycat> Oh, well, an apt-get upgrade would not
solve that in any case.
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3075[20:33:03] <Tenkawa> nope
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3076[20:33:05] <izaoeuoisdf> apt-get install --only-upgrade
libsqlite3-0:amd64 gives libsqlite3-0 is already the newest version.
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3077[20:33:26] <greycat> ,v libsqlite3-0
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3078[20:33:27] <judd> Package: libsqlite3-0 on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.7.13-1+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 3.7.13-1+deb7u4; jessie-security:
3.8.7.1-1+deb8u1; jessie: 3.8.7.1-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports:
3.16.2-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 3.16.2-5+deb9u1; buster: 3.23.1-1; sid:
3.23.1-1
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3079[20:33:27] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: you cannot do this without
manually upgrading
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3081[20:33:40] <greycat> Obviously the answer is "install
stretch" :)
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3083[20:34:02] <izaoeuoisdf> can I add strech packages list
temporarily
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3084[20:34:12] <greycat> Ask #ubuntu. I would bet "no".
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3085[20:34:18] <annadane> !frankenubuntu
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3087[20:34:21] * annadane shrug
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3088[20:34:31] <greycat> I was thinking "Frankenbuntu"
which is almost the same word.
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3089[20:34:49] <Tenkawa> you can get your system in trouble very
quickly
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3091[20:35:10] <izaoeuoisdf> is there an apt-get or dkpg command
that lists all the files installed by a specific package?
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3094[20:35:52] <greycat> yes, dpkg -L pkgname
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3097[20:37:07] <phogg> I normally use dlocate instead
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3102[20:38:51] <izaoeuoisdf> thanks
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3104[20:39:17] <izaoeuoisdf> I see mainly 3 files:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 , libsqlite3.a,
libsqlite3.la
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3105[20:39:24] <izaoeuoisdf> what are .a and .la usually?
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3106[20:39:41] <greycat> .a is a static library, and .la is a
libtool thing
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3108[20:39:52] <greycat> those would be from the -dev package
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3111[20:40:09] <izaoeuoisdf> ohh right
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3113[20:40:31] <izaoeuoisdf> which file does Python reuse? the
.so, the .a or the .la ?
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3117[20:41:13] <greycat> Whatever the reason behind this question
is, I am assuming you are going to break your ubuntu.
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3118[20:41:30] <greycat> So, please do it in #ubuntu. Maybe they
can talk you out of it.
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3119[20:41:52] <izaoeuoisdf> greycat: what could
"break" by just replacing an old .so by a newer one?
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3120[20:42:02] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: a lot!
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3121[20:42:08] <izaoeuoisdf> assuming it's the same platform
amd64
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3123[20:42:12] <izaoeuoisdf> Tenkawa: such as what?
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3124[20:42:13] <greycat> Everything that uses this library.
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3127[20:42:29] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: functions are defined in
those libraries
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3128[20:42:33] <izaoeuoisdf> if this library is retrocompatible,
why would it break?
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3129[20:42:40] <izaoeuoisdf> (and it is)
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3130[20:43:14] <greycat> You're not running Debian, so
it's off topic here, and if you WERE running Debian, our advice
would be "use jessie-backports or stretch"
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3132[20:43:45] <izaoeuoisdf> Actually I'm currectly running
my other computer with Debian, to take the newer .so to copy it to
the other computer ;)
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3133[20:44:08] <izaoeuoisdf> But I understand what you say
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3141[20:47:51] <izaoeuoisdf> greycat: just a last thing: on my
Debian I see I have .a, .la, .so.0.8.6, and .so.0 and .so... The
three last ones are link to each other. What is this naming .0.8.6?
(it's a Debian 8, debian-8.0-x86_64-minimal)
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3143[20:48:14] <izaoeuoisdf> I mean: .so.0.8.6 and .so.0
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3144[20:48:20] <greycat> You don't even know how shared
libraries work and you want to fuck around with your system's
shared libraries.
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3146[20:48:33] <greycat> Do not proceed with this plan.
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3150[20:49:21] <izaoeuoisdf> I'll just test and restore the
old one then
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3152[20:49:59] <izaoeuoisdf> I know about shared libraries (I
program mainly on Win), but not about the *naming* system, it's
something different
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3160[20:53:18] <izaoeuoisdf> greycat: it works
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3161[20:53:20] <izaoeuoisdf> problem solved.
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3172[20:56:59] <doublehp> how do install OpenOffice on a recent
debian ? I don't find the package; has it been renamed like
Firefox/IceDove/Nightly ?
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3173[20:57:14] <greycat> it's called libreoffice now
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3175[20:57:30] <greycat> ,v libreoffice
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3176[20:57:31] <judd> Package: libreoffice on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u10;
wheezy-backports: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u7~bpo70+1; jessie:
1:4.3.3-2+deb8u9; jessie-proposed-updates: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u10;
jessie-security: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u10; jessie-backports:
1:5.2.7-1+deb9u2~bpo8+1; stretch-security: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u2;
stretch: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u3; stretch-backports:
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3177[20:57:32] <judd> 1:6.0.2-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1:6.0.2-1+b1;
sid: 1:6.0.3-1
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3178[20:57:59] <doublehp> greycat: thanks
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3213[21:14:33] <conjunctivitis> i have a fresh install of avlinux
based on debian stretch
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3215[21:15:14] <conjunctivitis> i am trying to get my openvpn
running using nm-applet (have installed openvpn
network-manager-openvpn and network-manager-openvpn-gnome
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3216[21:15:15] <greycat> !avlinux
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3217[21:15:16] <dpkg> AV Linux (formerly A/V Linux) is a 32-bit
Live DVD distribution based on Debian <squeeze> (as of version
6). It specializes in multimedia content creation using
realtime-patched kernels. AV Linux is not supported in #debian.
Support forum:
replaced-url
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3218[21:15:49] <conjunctivitis> greycat, those guys don't
know much about networkingand can't seem to help
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3219[21:15:57] <spacegoat> Good evening, this is probably a dumb
question but I feel like I've been smashing my head against a
brick wall here. I've been trying to disable xorg/gdm3 in order
to install an nvidia driver. However I'm unable to disable gdm3
using systemctl and attempting to boot in to recovery mode so that
gdm3 doesn't start doesn't seem to work.
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3221[21:16:08] <spacegoat> Am I being dumb here? I feel like
I'm missing the obvious.
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3224[21:17:06] <greycat> spacegoat: try booting with the
additional GRUB kernel parameter systemd.unit=multi-user.target
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3227[21:17:24] <greycat> that should suppress *dm startup for
this one boot only
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3228[21:17:29] <conjunctivitis> i can establish an openvpn
connection via nm-applet or via command line, but nm-applet
connection gives me no internet access (i can ping the vpn server
but can't ping 8.8.8.8)
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3229[21:17:41] <conjunctivitis> command line launch functions
normally
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3230[21:17:46] <spacegoat> So I hit e on grub and add '
systemd.unit=multi-user.target ' to the end of one of the
lines?
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3231[21:17:56] <greycat> yes
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3232[21:18:12] <spacegoat> Which line do I add it on the end to?
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3233[21:18:19] <greycat> The one that you would normally boot.
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3235[21:19:20] <spacegoat> Cheers, will give that a try!
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3242[21:21:11] <jhutchins_wk> spacegoat: WHy can't you
service shutdown gdm3?
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3244[21:21:58] <greycat> In a lot of cases, a *dm starting up *at
all* before the drivers & firmware are configured can make the
system unusable. May not be able to do Ctrl-Alt-F2.
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3245[21:22:15] <greycat> Or, maybe he didn't even try. Who
knows.
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3246[21:22:41] <greycat> This is one of the reasons I *never*
install a GUI from the installer.
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3247[21:22:43] <jhutchins_wk> I think the nvidia installer checks
to see if X is running.
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3250[21:23:55] <greycat> Install base system / Standard / SSH
server, boot, add firmware, install xorg / fvwm / xterm, try
'startx', see if that works...
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3253[21:24:21] <annadane> meh
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3256[21:25:05] <greycat> You prefer the "install KDE, boot,
wait for failure" method? :)
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3259[21:25:40] <annadane> i haven't ever had a failure from
DE installation from installer but if it does happen i'll do it
the other way
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3261[21:26:03] <annadane> though yes it takes exactly the same
amount of time so you may as well
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3268[21:29:23] <annadane> (reason i haven't done it that way
is just through being unaware it can happen, not laziness, i think
i'll do it that way now)
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3269[21:29:37] <michael2> greycat: are the packages which provide
the "base" and "standard" systems named as such
- or are they a tasksel task?
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3271[21:30:11] <greycat> There's a "Priority:
Standard" which I think is what the installer uses for that.
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3272[21:30:24] <annadane> i know a lot of people like fvwm, only
tried it once very briefly
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3273[21:30:45] <greycat> I don't know if the post-installer
tasksel even HAS this option. And running tasksel to try to find out
is dangerous. :( :( :(
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3275[21:32:11] <Spacegoat> I just want to say thanks to the guy
who helped me before, it worked!
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3276[21:32:23] <annadane> !next
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3277[21:32:23] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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3280[21:34:00] <michael2> greycat: im thinking of the case of
installing via the netinstaller overwifi, where the the netinstaller
actually doen't/cant install packages so you have to manually
specify the packages. how would you specify everything in the
"priority: standard" category..
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3282[21:34:59] <greycat> ... huh? I have no idea what you're
asking. The tasksel at the end of the installer has Standard as a
category, and it is pre-checked.
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3283[21:35:18] <greycat> Perhaps you want
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3284[21:35:22] <greycat> !firmware images
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3285[21:35:23] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD
installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are
available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See
replaced-url
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3286[21:36:02] <michael2> greycat: yes, thats how im installing.
non-free net installer
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3333[22:01:10] <jhutchins_wk> tasksel desktop
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3341[22:11:22] <rhizome> grr
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3353[22:17:54] <OS-37692> Hi All. I am new over here. This is my
third day. I am working on the BoF module.
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3354[22:18:16] <Pidgeotto> nice
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3355[22:18:22] <OS-37692> I am exploring the fuzzing python
script. However the harcoded IP is not pingable
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3356[22:19:11] <abrotman> teh BoF module ?
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3357[22:19:21] <OS-37692> is this just an IP example - shall I
scan to find a server running the Ability-Server?
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3359[22:19:36] <OS-37692> yes 6.1
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3360[22:19:39] <abrotman> OS-37692: for which distro?
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3361[22:20:12] <OS-37692> Ability Server–v2.3.4
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3362[22:20:22] <abrotman> This is #debian ?
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3363[22:20:27] <OS-37692> yes
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3364[22:20:37] <abrotman> How is that related?
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3366[22:21:01] <OS-37692> Linux kali 4.12.0-kali2-686 #1 SMP
Debian 4.12.12-2kali1 (2017-09-13) i686 GNU/Linux
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3368[22:21:11] <abrotman> right, this is #debian, we support
Debian
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3370[22:21:23] <abrotman> dpkg: tell OS-37692 about kali
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3372[22:21:26] <abrotman> good luck
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3374[22:21:32] <mutante> "but it says Debian in uname
-a"
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3375[22:21:46] <abrotman> I can't help it people do weird
things
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3376[22:21:55] <mutante> fair
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3378[22:23:28] <frazr> Hi there folks, quick question is there
any risk of locking myself out of ssh while altering
/etc/resolv.conf ?
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3379[22:23:37] <frazr> like adding a new primary nameserver on
top of 3 existing :D
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3380[22:23:39] <frazr> scared
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3381[22:23:54] <frazr> it shouldn't be right since its only
the machines dns lookuips
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3382[22:23:57] <mutante> not really, if you remember your own IP
address
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3383[22:24:16] <frazr> :P
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3394[22:29:47] <laidback_01> anyone know much about running the
newish pgadmin4 in Debian 9.4 via apt as provided from pgadmin.org ?
I'm not at all a python person, and I'm getting
permissions errors trying to add a server to use...
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3396[22:30:21] <Tenkawa> got a pastebin with the errors?
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3397[22:31:10] <Tenkawa> not sure if its supported since its
third party though
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3399[22:31:39] <Tenkawa> (not in channel that is)
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3407[22:34:59] <laidback_01> yeah, I'm getting rid of it
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3408[22:35:04] <laidback_01> it's just a pile of crap
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3410[22:35:32] <laidback_01> crashed my windows 2012 server
machine ... hard. twice. now it's crashing X11 on my linux
machines.
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3411[22:35:41] <Tenkawa> ouch
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3412[22:35:50] <laidback_01> switching to something else. I love
my postgresql databases
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3414[22:36:01] <nix64bit> The following packages have been kept
back:
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3415[22:36:01] <nix64bit> debhelper git-man linux-image-amd64
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3416[22:36:07] <laidback_01> and when I could use pgadmin4,
it's really rather cool.
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3418[22:36:16] <Tenkawa> that seems like one messed up tool if
thats causing it
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3419[22:36:18] <laidback_01> but... I'd rather have it look
like pgadmin3 and be stable.
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3420[22:36:19] <nix64bit> not sure whats happening here?
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3424[22:36:52] <nix64bit> when i run sudo apt upgrade
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3427[22:36:54] <Tenkawa> nix64bit: you need to pastebin the
"whole" context
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3428[22:37:13] <laidback_01> probably just how I'm using it,
I don't see a lot of other people complaining, it's just
of course, I need it now... and it's not goign to work. so
alternatives, here I come, lol
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3429[22:37:48] <Tenkawa> something is preventing those from being
from being updated like an apt hold or an apt-get update not being
run first
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3430[22:37:57] <nix64bit> laidback_01: basically all i see
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3433[22:38:16] <Tenkawa> laidback_01: you tried talking to the
#postgresql channel?
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3435[22:38:36] <nix64bit> must i run it with a v switch?
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3436[22:38:37] <laidback_01> I was in the pgadmin channel, but
there's only 15 or so ppl there, they are all idle/offline.
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3440[22:39:20] <laidback_01> it's OK, there's plenty of
competition. I was just hoping to get it working... no go.
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3442[22:39:28] <Tenkawa> nix64bit: did you run apt-get update
first?
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3443[22:39:32] <nix64bit> yes
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3445[22:39:53] <nix64bit> no problems
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3447[22:40:08] <Tenkawa> ohhh
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3448[22:40:11] <nix64bit> 5 packages can be upgraded. Run
'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
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3450[22:40:24] <Tenkawa> those just arent going to be upgraded
until dist-upgrade
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3451[22:40:28] <Tenkawa> dont run it yet though
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3452[22:40:33] <Tenkawa> do this
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3454[22:40:45] <Tenkawa> apt-get --dry-run dist-upgrade
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3455[22:40:58] <Tenkawa> does that show all going to be
installed?
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3457[22:41:13] <nix64bit> i get a list of 5 yes
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3458[22:41:23] <Tenkawa> did you make any changes to sources.lst?
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3459[22:41:35] <nix64bit> not recently
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3461[22:42:07] <nix64bit> but i am on testing
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3462[22:42:25] <Tenkawa> ok then you can run upgrade first...
reboot then run dist-upgrade... although I'd prefer if someone
else in channel confirm this
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3464[22:42:37] <Tenkawa> I run more in dev mode
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3466[22:43:49] <nix64bit> I will try that, will hope for the best
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3468[22:43:56] <Tenkawa> good luck
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3470[22:44:01] <nix64bit> tx
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3472[22:44:43] <Tenkawa> you'll need another reboot after
the dist-upgrade for the new kernel too btw
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3474[22:45:19] <nix64bit> anyway looks promising so far
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3475[22:45:29] <nix64bit> will do thanks
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