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2[00:00:47] <darsie> 'dry' does not occur in man aptitude.
3[00:01:04] <Tenkawa> use apt-get
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5[00:01:35] <Tenkawa> sorry,.. forgot to mention that
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8[00:02:14] * Tenkawa is looking too
9[00:02:54] <darsie> ok, apt-get has no ambitions to install anything, but now aptitude shows me dependency conflicts again ...
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11[00:03:22] <Tenkawa> let me look at that pastebin
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13[00:03:49] <darsie> replaced-url
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15[00:04:27] <darsie> I tried to install libgl1-nvidia-glx, but that's for new cards, so I aborted, but it still wants to install all the stuff for new cards.
16[00:04:43] <Tenkawa> ahhhh
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19[00:05:11] <Tenkawa> you need to back that out then
20[00:05:28] <darsie> And not worry that aptitude install wants to install stuff?
21[00:05:46] <darsie> I already purged libgl1-nvidia-glx
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23[00:06:18] <Tenkawa> you can let it install those and then remove afterwards too
24[00:06:31] <darsie> I'll try ...
25[00:06:38] <Tenkawa> if you dont need those packages
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33[00:08:34] <darsie> building modules for new cards ...
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35[00:09:44] <darsie> looks bad
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37[00:10:24] <Tenkawa> why?
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39[00:10:37] <Tenkawa> it suppose to do that
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41[00:10:49] <darsie> replaced-url
42[00:11:11] <darsie> I think it installed the new driver. I forgot how to switch between old an new driver.
43[00:11:25] <darsie> If I reboot now xorg will be broken.
44[00:11:50] <Tenkawa> do what it saysy
45[00:12:17] <Tenkawa> that is fine
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47[00:12:47] <Tenkawa> you can get it to a stable point that way then restart the install
48[00:13:02] <darsie> restart what install?
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50[00:13:35] <darsie> install the old nvidia driver?
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52[00:14:00] <darsie> apt install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's/[^-]*-[^-]*-//') nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver
53[00:14:16] <darsie> ?
54[00:14:22] <Tenkawa> follow the instructios its telling yu
55[00:14:25] <Tenkawa> er you
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57[00:14:40] <darsie> Well, I hit enter.
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59[00:15:18] <darsie> replaced-url
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61[00:16:18] <darsie> aptitude install is happy now
62[00:16:23] <Tenkawa> yep
63[00:16:24] <Bacteria> can prompt colors cause line wraping issues?
64[00:16:39] <Tenkawa> directed to darsie
65[00:16:50] <darsie> Tenkawa: Do I install the old nvidia driver now?
66[00:16:55] <Tenkawa> darsie: yes
67[00:18:09] <darsie> It's already "installed", but I guess the new driver is configured now. I forgot the command to switch between the drivers.
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70[00:18:32] <darsie> Shall I reinstall the old driver?
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74[00:19:42] <Tenkawa> darsie: you can try... however my recommendation would to be sure X is not running and do it in the console
75[00:19:58] <Tenkawa> afk...gotta fix something over here
76[00:20:31] <darsie> I'm afraid if I stop X it will not come back up.
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80[00:21:11] <darsie> I'd have to revert to irssi or so. Or nouveau.
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83[00:23:23] <darsie> How would I activate nouveau?
84[00:23:24] <Bacteria> omg
85[00:23:37] <Bacteria> what is causing the line wraping
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88[00:24:27] <darsie> make an xorg.conf file?
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92[00:26:06] <darsie> IIRC nouveau got blacklisted. Where?
93[00:26:14] <darsie> Would it suffice to remove that?
94[00:26:31] <Bacteria> i do it in the grub
95[00:26:48] <darsie> You don't have a brain.
96[00:26:48] <Bacteria> but the otehr way is in some folder /modules
97[00:27:12] <Bacteria> just google how to blaklist nouveau
98[00:27:19] <darsie> ahh, found the blacklist.
99[00:27:19] <darsie> thx
100[00:27:21] <Bacteria> and ull track it down
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115[00:38:30] <darsie42> X is broken. I'm at the text console :(. How do I get the 340 nvidia driver back up?
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118[00:38:44] <darsie42> or nouveau?
119[00:38:47] <TwistedFate> What's the best way to install mesa and all of it's packages in Debian?
120[00:39:00] <TwistedFate> I don't want to install them all by hand, too many packages >.<
121[00:39:32] <darsie42> unblacklisting nouveau didn't work.
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123[00:40:12] <darsie42> Shall I reinstall debian a third time?
124[00:40:20] <Tenkawa> darsie42: what do you get with startx in the console?
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126[00:40:59] <darsie42> (EE) no screens found(EE)
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128[00:41:24] <Tenkawa> ok.. thats not too bad'
129[00:41:40] <Tenkawa> is this a integrated card?
130[00:41:43] <darsie42> no
131[00:41:47] <Tenkawa> ok
132[00:41:51] <Tenkawa> god
133[00:41:54] <Tenkawa> er good
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135[00:42:19] <Tenkawa> as root run Xorg -configure
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138[00:43:42] <darsie42> Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
139[00:44:04] <Tenkawa> what kind of machine is this?
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141[00:44:54] <darsie42> amd64, HP
142[00:44:56] <darsie42> PC
143[00:45:12] <Tenkawa> hmm
144[00:45:33] <darsie42> I see nouveau in xorg.conf. Trying to rmmod nvidia ...
145[00:46:25] <darsie42> argh, I got x as root
146[00:46:36] <Tenkawa> well thats good
147[00:46:51] <Tenkawa> you can exit and log back in as you
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150[00:48:42] <darsie> ok, I'm back in a messy nouveau x server.
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152[00:49:19] <Tenkawa> cool..
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154[00:49:33] <Tenkawa> i gotta run but good luck for now
155[00:49:42] <darsie> thx ...
156[00:49:49] <Tenkawa> cheera all
157[00:49:57] <Tenkawa> er cheers
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159[00:50:04] <darsie> got binary garbage and shifted image.
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163[00:53:41] <darsie> help
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165[00:54:42] <darsie> I installed old and new nvidia driver. How do I switch between them?
166[00:55:04] <darsie> The installation process told me the command, but I forgot.
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168[00:56:09] <darsie> Hmm, when I backup my home then reinstalling a third time won't be so time consuming.
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170[00:56:41] <darsie> Probably faster than cleaning up this mess.
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174[01:01:02] <annadane> are there any security risks associated with adding a user to the libvirt libvirt-qemu and kvm groups or can this be done safely?
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181[01:03:56] <Bacteria> darsie: wtfffffffffffff
182[01:03:59] <Bacteria> lol
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186[01:06:19] <darsie> That's not funny.
187[01:06:29] <darsie> I'm wasting days with this shit.
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192[01:07:22] <annadane> in fact, i'm going to ask the mailing list, thanks anyway
193[01:07:30] <darsie> yw
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195[01:10:06] <darsie> I found the logout button, which has shifted off the screen. bbl
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201[01:15:14] <Bacteria> wow
202[01:15:21] <Bacteria> issues
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204[01:15:34] <annadane> go troll elsewhere, please
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209[01:19:03] <nvzn> hi, I'm using an embedded device, the TS-7680 from Technologic Systems (replaced-url
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211[01:19:40] <annadane> i would post !arm but not sure how applicable it would be
212[01:19:56] <annadane> also unsure as to whether embedded devices have their own kernel
213[01:20:02] <annadane> own special kernel, that is
214[01:20:17] <nvzn> Yes, it's a special kernel, sources on github
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217[01:20:33] <nvzn> and what do you mean by posting on !arm?
218[01:20:41] <annadane> !arm
219[01:20:42] <dpkg> Advanced RISC Machine (ARM) is a processor architecture. The Debian arm port was deprecated at 5.0 "Lenny" with official support dropped at 6.0 "Squeeze", ask me about <armel> for the replacement port. See also <armhf>. replaced-url
220[01:21:00] <annadane> in other words, "go ask there", but not sure if it's appropriate
221[01:21:14] <nvzn> ok, thanks for that
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237[01:29:07] <tharkun> I need to get the transcript from a youtube video but my conection is shaky is there a way to download the video so I can work localy?
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241[01:30:42] <Bacteria> is there a way to detect terminal resize
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243[01:31:24] <tharkun> ncurses has a way
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248[01:32:54] <Bacteria> what is it
249[01:33:06] <tharkun> !ncurses
250[01:33:07] <dpkg> methinks ncurses is a free clone of curses, a library for the management of in- and output for character-cell based terminals and terminal emulators. If you want to install ncurses, you most likely want to: aptitude install libncurses5-dev
251[01:33:26] <Bacteria> methinks
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255[01:34:08] <blaztek> Bacteria: tout
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257[01:34:16] <blaztek> tput
258[01:34:32] <blaztek> tput cols
259[01:34:40] <Bacteria> thats what im doing
260[01:34:42] <Bacteria> yes
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262[01:34:56] <Bacteria> i dont want to install any extras
263[01:34:57] <rifkin> after LTS stops are the servers still available to get packages?
264[01:35:05] <Bacteria> since this seems to be a bug in docker
265[01:35:57] <blaztek> Bacteria: save the old values and check for different values?
266[01:36:48] <Bacteria> ?
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268[01:37:22] <Bacteria> i was thinking to just add tput cols and tput rows in bashrc
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270[01:37:40] <blaztek> Yes
271[01:37:43] <blaztek> Exactly
272[01:38:05] <Bacteria> tput cols && tput lines?
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276[01:40:29] <blaztek> Personally I’d go with something like export TERM_LINES=$( tput lines )
277[01:40:29] <blaztek> same with cols
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279[01:41:17] <Bacteria> seems like tput works on resize too
280[01:41:19] <Bacteria> ?
281[01:41:26] <Bacteria> w out typing that again
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283[01:42:13] <Bacteria> crap that didnt work
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285[01:42:28] <blaztek> No, you’d have to check for resize
286[01:42:38] <Bacteria> man that didnt even work lol
287[01:42:55] <blaztek> The export?
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289[01:43:06] <Bacteria> tput cols && tput lines
290[01:43:20] <Bacteria> it just showed me with the wrong values
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297[01:43:55] <blaztek> Use ; instead of &&
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300[01:44:32] <Bacteria> y
301[01:44:42] <Bacteria> also im getting the wrong values
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305[01:45:07] <blaztek> Hmmm, I’m not
306[01:45:07] * darsie reinstalled the 3rd time.
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310[01:45:42] <irssi> crap
311[01:45:47] <irssi> and i kicked myself
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314[01:45:57] <Guest96094> lol
315[01:46:11] <blaztek> Bacteria: I’m on my smartphone SSH’d in and rotating the screen gives different correct values
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317[01:46:26] <Guest96094> nice
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319[01:46:51] <Guest96094> well yeah i can make such a program w QT myself
320[01:47:05] <Guest96094> but this is in a docker container
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324[01:49:25] <blaztek> Bacteria: you’re right...different values that are off
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327[01:51:08] <Bacteria> fkn docker and all its bugs
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333[01:53:39] <Bacteria> see in #debian we dont have these problems
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349[02:01:50] <tharkun> Gentlemen can anyone give me a good idea on how to spot if someone is connecting their gadgets to my wifi network?
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351[02:04:23] <awal1> tharkun, you have several tools for that
352[02:04:37] <Bacteria> tail the network log
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361[02:08:28] <awal1> tharkun, easy to use an not needing too much debug, I suggest you aircrack-ng utilities (airodump-ng and aireplay-ng, in your case ' monitor & kick out)
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363[02:09:38] <awal1> monitor mode is required, so an extra wifi adapter is preferable
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367[02:11:09] <awal1> easiest way is just control stuff acced to your router and verify
368[02:11:22] <awal1> accessing
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373[02:14:12] <Bacteria> oh i c i already have ncurses
374[02:14:29] <Bacteria> so wth
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376[02:17:36] <Bacteria> how come its reporting wrong size
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379[02:19:18] <bug> tharkun, most routers let you limit access to your network by mac address.
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383[02:24:12] <hyperlumic> Which is useless.
384[02:24:42] <hyperlumic> WPA2 with a strong passphrase, disable WPS.
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386[02:25:23] <rjsalts> or WPA2 enterprise
387[02:25:56] <hyperlumic> Yup, because I'm sure setting up a RADIUS server is so much easier for most people, let alone the fact that a lot of home devices can't authenticate to WPA2 enterprise networks.
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389[02:27:20] <rjsalts> hyperlumic: some routers offer a built in credential store for multiple users as an alternative to querying an external radius server
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391[02:27:53] <hyperlumic> rjsalts: Which is neat, I've never seen that. Links, please. Also doesn't mitigate the "many consumer devices can't speak it" problem.
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397[02:34:02] <Bacteria> k this might be dumb but
398[02:34:22] <Bacteria> whats the diff between ; and &&
399[02:34:39] <Bacteria> like when i wana run something after sleep
400[02:34:41] <rjsalts> Bacteria: in shell, I assume you mean
401[02:34:50] <Bacteria> ya in term
402[02:35:08] <rjsalts> hyperlumic: I think I saw it on my netcomm, but I don't know what model it was
403[02:35:10] <raktajino> ; both commands run regardless
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406[02:35:31] <raktajino> && second only runs if rc0 on first
407[02:36:04] <hyperlumic> rc0 translates to "if the process exited with a return code of 0, which implies success or no errors."
408[02:36:05] <bug> ; executes the commands regardles. && only executes the second command if the first one succeeded.
409[02:36:06] <rjsalts> Bacteria: && is shell compound command for AND
410[02:36:16] <awal1> command1 ; command2 = command2 only run if command1 is succesful
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413[02:36:48] <Bacteria> umm
414[02:36:49] <hyperlumic> awal1: No.
415[02:36:50] <awal1> && is run command2 too after command1 even if not succesful
416[02:37:04] <raktajino> ❌
417[02:37:07] <Bacteria> so i need to do sleep 1; tput lines?
418[02:37:18] <Bacteria> so i need to do sleep 1; tput lines && tput cols?
419[02:37:41] <jelly> awal1: try it. "false; echo second command" vs. "false && echo second command"
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421[02:38:07] <awal1> jelly, I got confused, yeah :D
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423[02:38:09] <Bacteria> ya that seems to be it
424[02:38:13] <Bacteria> right
425[02:38:16] <Bacteria> sleep 1; tput lines && tput cols
426[02:38:25] <rjsalts> Bacteria: and shell is lazy, so if the first command exits non-zero then it doesn't need to invoke the second command because it knows that !0 && whatever is !0
427[02:38:52] <Bacteria> rjsalts: that doesnt compute lol
428[02:39:04] <Bacteria> just say yes or no lol
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430[02:39:27] <Bacteria> what does sleep exit
431[02:40:24] <Bacteria> ok aaaaand its still giving the wrong sizes
432[02:40:33] <rjsalts> I assume it would exit 0 unless there was some kind of error. the man page doesn't mention any exit codes though
433[02:40:34] <jelly> Bacteria: you can see the exit status by looking at $? variable immediately after a command is run
434[02:40:45] <jelly> Bacteria: sleep 10; echo $?
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436[02:41:02] <Bacteria> ok
437[02:41:06] <Bacteria> but still wrong size
438[02:41:09] <jelly> Bacteria: repeat it, but press ^c while it's sleeping, and compate
439[02:41:39] <Bacteria> ok so its like any bash script
440[02:41:42] <Bacteria> i get it
441[02:41:44] <jelly> Bacteria: are you using screen or tmux in addition to a terminal?
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443[02:41:50] <Bacteria> kinda like perl
444[02:42:06] <Bacteria> no its docker
445[02:42:09] <jelly> "reset" might fix some of the terminal settings
446[02:42:10] <Bacteria> they made a bug
447[02:42:23] <jelly> does docker even open a tty when running commands?
448[02:42:37] <Bacteria> docker made a new bug
449[02:42:45] <Bacteria> now it doesnt know the correct size
450[02:42:52] <jelly> eh
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459[02:46:45] <Bacteria> should we just get rid of computers
460[02:46:58] <Bacteria> seems like they cause more problems than solve
461[02:49:51] <foreign_spy> also all customer service representatives
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463[02:51:05] <foreign_spy> all bowdown to Strife89 great sword
464[02:51:12] <foreign_spy> 's
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467[02:52:11] <Bacteria> comon guys, think
468[02:52:18] <Bacteria> use ur debian brains
469[02:52:32] <Bacteria> tput cols give wrong size
470[02:52:45] <Bacteria> if i resize window gives right size
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472[02:53:09] <Bacteria> all others on google can come up with is setting it staticly
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477[02:58:36] <foreign_spy> speaking of which
478[02:58:51] <foreign_spy> is there any way i can make an iso of my current installation?
479[02:58:52] <Bacteria> spank vision
480[02:59:00] <Bacteria> omfg
481[02:59:41] <Bacteria> u dont even need to do that but
482[02:59:49] <Bacteria> sounds interesting
483[03:00:09] <Bacteria> foreign_spy: u know u can just directly move the instalation
484[03:00:34] <Bacteria> to any drive, change the uuid
485[03:00:58] <Bacteria> and it will work on even another computer just like nothing happened
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500[03:14:13] <rhizome> mdadm == headache
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502[03:15:36] <Humatiel> I've had decent luck with btrfs lately, could always give that a shot.
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507[03:19:10] <rhizome> having a cry first
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526[03:37:00] <hyperlumic> How is mdadm a headache?
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537[03:44:12] <rhizome> just a personal machine drive i'm trying to grow and apparently did wrong. nothing permanent.
538[03:44:14] <limited> how do I install gnome on debian jessie
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540[03:44:29] <rhizome> apt install gnome-desktop or something ilke that
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549[03:51:57] <rhizome> under an md raid 1, recreating it actually, does it matter which drive has the "stuff" on it already?
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589[04:10:35] <limited> what program can I use to transfer videos from a dv device to the computer using firewire that is not coriander that depends on gnome and uses all my space installing it
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595[04:16:25] <rhizome> limited: this looks like a possibility: replaced-url
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621[04:39:14] <limited> rhizome: thanks
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633[04:53:09] <limited> rhizome: can u help me using it? I can't record any video
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659[05:04:03] <limited> I get no camera exists with dvgrab
660[05:04:13] <limited> while my dv is outputting dv
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664[05:04:21] <limited> dv dazzle hollywood bridge
665[05:04:22] <zhangj__> I would like to know about the implementation of socket5's proxy protocol. Does anyone know?
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694[05:23:37] <rjsalts> zhangj__: you're wanting to write your own?
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698[05:25:29] <zhangj__> @rjsalts yes
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700[05:27:03] <zhangj__> @rjsalts I want to implement socket5 myself
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702[05:31:16] <zhangj__> @rjsalts I know when to open socket forwarding data, I do not know when to close the established socket
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706[05:32:34] <zhangj__> @rjsalts I don't quite understand. I've read many times 'rfc1928.txt'.
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715[05:38:47] <OtakuSenpai> zhangj__: join ##posix
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719[05:40:00] <zhangj__> @OtakuSenpai Thank you
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862[07:31:08] <dysfigured> i have raspbian running stretch, but a lot of things (like tmux and zsh and a sensible vim build) is missing from the raspbian stretch repos, if i add jessie to my repos, do i need to do some apt-pinning to make sure it pulls from stretch first?
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883[07:41:35] <africoala> hi
884[07:41:46] <blaztek> Hi
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887[07:41:52] <ph33r> Helloz africoala
888[07:42:09] <ph33r> And blaztek.
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890[07:42:19] <africoala> hey ph33r
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893[07:43:06] <blaztek> Hi ph33r
894[07:43:07] <africoala> some1 knows if a raid1 will start again after removed one of two disks?
895[07:43:20] <ph33r> I've been gone all day. What exciting debian stuff did I miss? lol
896[07:43:26] <africoala> I coulnt find a hell out of google for this question
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898[07:43:56] <africoala> duno ph33r
899[07:44:05] <africoala> where u been? :)
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902[07:45:16] <blaztek> africoala: it’s mirrored so I would guess yes
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904[07:45:46] <ph33r> Well, I had to go to a wake for a friend. Afterward I found the cops are starting to treat it as a murder. So its been a long crazy day to say the least. I'm not a hardware guy, but let me see what I can find.
905[07:45:53] <africoala> yes, I know, but I wanna run it with just one disk after reboot
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907[07:46:06] <africoala> I have to know this before I boot
908[07:46:26] <africoala> I am really unsure
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910[07:46:54] <ph33r> I'd suggest going with raid zero if you're going down to just one disk.
911[07:46:59] <africoala> lol ph33r
912[07:47:03] <blaztek> “The RAID array will operate if one disk is operational.” - replaced-url
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915[07:48:24] <africoala> okay, then I will risk the reboot - have to do this coz this raid is in RO mode
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918[07:48:56] <blaztek> Hope all goes well
919[07:49:01] <africoala> thanks :)
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921[07:49:03] <ph33r> Good luck!
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924[07:49:07] <africoala> yeah
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935[07:58:27] <ph33r> Africoala, how did that reboot go?
936[07:59:22] <africoala> bad
937[07:59:42] <africoala> the server doesn't comes back up
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947[08:04:26] <africoala> the boots hangs at the controler output
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959[08:10:58] <ph33r> Odd, did you put it in raid zero? Or keep it in raid one?
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969[08:14:19] <africoala> raid one
970[08:15:10] <africoala> but its a software raid anyway and not the root partition/disk, the raid is just a data storage
971[08:15:24] <africoala> so it should boot at least
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977[08:20:32] <africoala> huhu karimb
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1059[09:04:42] <slax0r> oskie: you can't bind a device to a dir afaik
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1099[09:27:13] <michael2> when the command `umount' is run - does umount automatically perform sync with the disk (i.e. finish flushing buffer to disk) ?
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1108[09:35:04] <sn00bie> hi ive some mainboard with an i2c gpio chip pca9554, how can i get this chip to work?
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1115[09:36:09] <sn00bie> i load the module i2c-detect and now i get a list of i2c bus at the mainboard, as well i load the i2c-pca-platform, but i get no gpios.
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1117[09:36:28] <sn00bie> where is to setup the i2c address from the gpio chip? thanks a lot
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1138[09:47:46] <edgars> hue!
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1142[09:52:59] <remy> does anyone knows how to connect my roland mc 505 to the computer?
1143[09:53:26] <remy> i have a midi cable with usb out
1144[09:53:47] <remy> but nothing happens when i tried this setup
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1148[09:55:07] <fuxxy> Just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. My ethernet interfaces are now using the "new" naming convention. Where do I go from here to bring up network?
1149[09:55:37] <sn00bie> @remy: lsusb - list the device?
1150[09:56:19] <fuxxy> Oh, I guess it's *not* the new predictable name. My new device is ens32, and the predicitable names are similar to enp6s0
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1152[09:56:40] <remy> sn00bie, replaced-url
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1154[09:57:39] <remy> i already seach "1a86:752d debian"
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1157[09:58:04] <jelly> fuxxy: that's still the predictable name thingy
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1165[09:59:17] <fuxxy> jelly, oh? I renamed the interface in /etc/network/interfaces, but after a reboot, the interface still doesn't come up
1166[10:00:08] <sn00bie> @remy unplug the device and check if some position is removed
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1169[10:00:53] <fuxxy> I don't mind clearing out all the "old" naming conventions and running the fresh naming on systemd, but I'm not sure where to start
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1171[10:01:53] <remy> sn00bie, nope.. it`s stays the same
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1173[10:02:35] <sn00bie> @remy so it is a hardware issue, try an different pc or usb cable
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1176[10:04:59] <remy> i already testedit on windows,but the cable is oke i think
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1178[10:05:53] <remy> sn00bie, nothing happens
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1180[10:06:59] <sn00bie> @remy even on windows nothing happens?
1181[10:07:21] <remy> yes..
1182[10:07:21] <sn00bie> update the firmware on the device?
1183[10:07:52] <remy> how can i do that without a internet connection on th mc 505
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1185[10:08:16] <remy> sn00bie, it does not connect
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1196[10:12:06] <thow> i have stretch and it seems netsnmp doesn't get well with mariadb :( i can't run snmptrapd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnetsnmptrapd.so.30: undefined symbol: my_progname
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1199[10:13:52] <sn00bie> @remy: replaced-url
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1201[10:14:56] <remy> i`ll try that
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1207[10:17:24] <remy> sn00bie, 1) Connect the MIDI OUT of an external sequencer to the MIDI IN
1208[10:17:24] <remy> of the MC-505.
1209[10:17:39] <remy> i need a sequencer ?
1210[10:18:02] <remy> i tought my computer is the seq.
1211[10:19:11] <remy> sn00bie, does not work..it`s a pitty
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1216[10:19:54] <fuxxy> Hmm, looks like it was as simple as editing the correct /etc/systemd/network/example.network and running 'systemctl enable systemd-networkd && systemctl start systemd-networkd'
1217[10:20:05] <fuxxy> let's see if it persists on reboot
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1220[10:21:09] <fuxxy> Nope, interface was not brought back up
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1231[10:24:58] <fuxxy> the interface is brought back up by restarting systemd-networkd
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1241[10:32:35] <katapultsiege> shouldn't these man pages be outside of debian "main"? replaced-url
1242[10:32:39] <sn00bie> remy sry i dont know about that device...
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1244[10:33:43] <babilen> katapultsiege: Why do you think so?
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1246[10:34:11] <katapultsiege> babilen: because their "RESTRICTIONS" make it such that they are not free
1247[10:34:47] <katapultsiege> afiak the Debian "contract" prohibits any non-free content to be in "main"
1248[10:35:27] <babilen> Which license is that and how do the restrictions violate DFSG?
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1253[10:36:47] <babilen> Looks like the MIT license, might want to read up on that in the context of DFSG
1254[10:36:51] <katapultsiege> babilen: I don't know what license it is, but it looks like MIT. The restriction in particular is "Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation ... without fee"
1255[10:37:18] <Ool> MIT licence is a free licence isn't it ?
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1257[10:37:32] <katapultsiege> yes but there is a "no fees" restriction
1258[10:37:50] <katapultsiege> which means you can't even redistribute a Debian DVD for a fee
1259[10:38:15] <africoala> why would that be
1260[10:38:20] <babilen> If you believe that it is a breach of DFSG, you might want to write a mail to debian-legal and investigate the issue.
1261[10:38:20] <katapultsiege> africoala: what?
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1263[10:38:28] <africoala> a debian dvd for a fee
1264[10:39:09] <babilen> "Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted" -- is that the clause that you think causes issues here?
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1266[10:39:20] <katapultsiege> babilen: yes
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1268[10:39:50] <katapultsiege> my interpretation is that I cannot redistribute for a fee?
1269[10:39:51] <Ool> incompatibility between free licences is so stupid …
1270[10:39:55] <babilen> That's a standard clause in MIT licenses
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1272[10:40:22] <Ool> but this time I don"t think so
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1276[10:41:04] <babilen> Either way, take it to debian-legal if you think that's an issue. Given that MIT licenses are quite standard, I'd be surprised if your reading of that clause is correct
1277[10:41:07] <babilen> But IANAL
1278[10:41:12] <katapultsiege> maybe I'm reading it wrong. Does it mean that they grant me the right without having to pay them a fee, or that they grant me the right to redistribute only if I do not apply a fee?
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1284[10:42:28] <katapultsiege> I'll ask debian-legal but I think my original interpretation wa probbaly wrong
1285[10:42:29] <katapultsiege> sorry
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1290[10:43:06] <babilen> My understanding of that sentence is that you are granted the right to redistribute without a fee
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1293[10:43:34] <katapultsiege> is there a debian-legal irc channel?
1294[10:43:38] <babilen> As in: You do not *have* to charge/pay fees/royalties if you distribute
1295[10:43:56] <JustASlacker> but you can
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1297[10:44:00] <blaztek> katapultsiege: to me it’s just a restriction that requires perpetual use of that text so MIT will get credit
1298[10:44:00] <babilen> I'm referring to replaced-url
1299[10:44:08] <babilen> blaztek: exactly
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1301[10:44:18] <JustASlacker> lots of people selling linux / open source software
1302[10:44:28] <babilen> But seriously, this is one of the oldest licenses in use and a very short one
1303[10:44:58] <babilen> There are many discussions of this license (e.g. replaced-url
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1310[10:48:11] <JustASlacker> hell, these days even Microsoft is using MIT licensed stuff
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1312[10:49:51] <katapultsiege> JustASlacker: not disputing that, just saying that that license can be read at least in 2 ways
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1322[10:54:53] <sn00bie> i ve an pca9554 at the i2c bus, have sb any information howto get the "custom" device to operate?
1323[10:55:07] <sn00bie> it is an i2c gpio expander
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1325[10:56:14] <bites> sn00bie: is that a raspberry pi with raspbian?
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1330[10:56:54] <sn00bie> no it is an 64bit intel supermicro board
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1378[11:17:40] <garries> In order to install debian, which dvd sould i download. 1 , 2 or 3 ?
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1385[11:21:27] <jarco> I am trying to create a new user on my debian server When I enter it it returns: Bad password: is too simple
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1388[11:21:51] <jarco> This is weird to me since i am using a very long password of randomly generated letters
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1391[11:22:54] <jarco> I mean, its a random string of 60 characters, seems a hard enough entropy
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1398[11:26:52] <thblt> jarco: maybe your server is configured to require some special characters as well.
1399[11:27:06] <thblt> jarco: also. 60 random characters sound useless. Why?
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1401[11:27:44] <remy> sn00bie, thanks after all
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1403[11:27:56] <deadrom> hi
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1405[11:29:26] <deadrom> in a bit of a pickle: need to install on a VM I cannot access the config interface. an installed-to-death deb is installed on the target machine, I can ssh in but no insert install media. idea: from other VM clone everything over, change hostname/IP. so far so good, but what's the proper tool to do so? rsync over ssh partion by partition?
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1411[11:31:26] <jarco> thblt: I have made it 60 long because I will never use it and the entropy is good when it is long
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1413[11:31:27] <ViperXL75> Is it possible to read the code in a binary in Debian? I know that windows sends you into the woods with hexeditor/assembly. But i have no clue how Linux handles it.
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1415[11:31:49] <thblt> jarco: you know you can create an user without a password at all, right? Not an empty password, just no password
1416[11:32:24] <jarco> mmm yes, I could do that also, I don't know if it needed one to be able to use an ssh key later
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1418[11:33:02] <thblt> jarco: no, you just have to enable passwordless sudo if you plan to sudo
1419[11:33:05] <alkisg> deadrom: I think the main problem isn't "how to copy", but "how to copy over files that are in use". You can't really do that, so you'd need to clone to another dir, e.g. /target, and then somehow move the /target to / on reboot.
1420[11:33:05] <alkisg> I usually put a grub entry to netboot the VM instead from my server, so that I have complete control over its disk (i.e. nothing in use)...
1421[11:33:15] <jarco> But I figured out it needed a special char too. Appearantly someone who made this requirement tought a special char is harder to guess for a bot :)
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1423[11:34:14] <PerfDave> jarco: adduser --disabled-password
1424[11:34:55] <deadrom> alkisg: ah, forgot that bit
1425[11:35:02] <thblt> jarco:
1426[11:35:31] <thblt> jarco: well given a reasonable temporization between attempts, I'd say special characters do help.
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1428[11:35:48] <ViperXL75> guess not
1429[11:35:53] <thblt> jarco: also it hints at what a strong password looks like.
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1431[11:36:16] <thblt> but in the real world, it's probably more efficient to run john on new passwords than to require some special properties.
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1435[11:37:21] <jarco> I didn't get a hint, but its fixed now anyway :)
1436[11:37:41] <jarco> PerfDave: will it still be able to login with ssh keys then?
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1440[11:38:13] <thblt> jarco: again, yes. No password != no login
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1443[11:38:56] <jarco> awesome thanks
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1445[11:39:07] <thblt> ViperXL75: you mean disassembly?
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1447[11:39:46] <thblt> ViperXL75: but yes basically, you need a disassembler
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1496[12:00:54] <hummingbird> hi everyoen
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1499[12:01:30] <hummingbird> anyone looking forward to the new stable release>
1500[12:01:33] <hummingbird> ?
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1503[12:02:37] <PerfDave> hummingbird: I'm not holding my breath given it's a year away :)
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1507[12:04:35] <hummingbird> hmm yea the temptation to jump to testing or unstable is strong
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1509[12:05:18] <PerfDave> Why? Stretch is fine :)
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1512[12:06:45] <hummingbird> That is what I keep telling myself as well whenever I want to switch
1513[12:07:23] <hummingbird> But some packages feels like they are a thousand years old
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1515[12:07:35] <PerfDave> If you don't have a pressing reason, why give up security support and stability?
1516[12:07:44] <ViperXL75> thblt: Thanks for your reply. I'm used to windows environments.
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1520[12:09:12] <ViperXL75> thblt: I've seen that in Linux sometimes applications run, but the source code is readable. But I am starting to understand that you can have applications that run with readable sourcecode and others that run with a unreadable binary file(like windows Executables). Took me awhile to figure that one out. But thanks.
1521[12:09:36] <thblt> ViperXL75: you're looking for the difference between interpreted and compiled programming languages
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1523[12:09:52] <hummingbird> Testing and unstable get their security support through normal updates, while in stable you can specify that you only want security updates, right?
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1529[12:11:11] <thblt> ViperXL75: Unix systems provide some facilities for running interpreted languages as if they were regular binaries, which doesn't exist in Windows AFAIK.
1530[12:11:24] <thblt> s/doesn't/don't (these facilities)
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1535[12:14:41] <sn00bie> remy: you are welcome
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1537[12:15:13] <sn00bie> where can i get support for i2c gpio expander @debian @intel platform?
1538[12:15:18] <sn00bie> it is an industrial computer
1539[12:15:23] <ViperXL75> well i must admit that it does make Linux a less obscure OS to handle with. Even though it still scares the crap outta me. :P
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1604[12:46:45] <WhatisRT_> hi! I'm having weird issues with my path... I have a bash script that calls the executable type-parser, which is in ~/.local/bin. I added that to my PATH, but the script still does not find it
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1606[12:47:32] <WhatisRT_> I added a line env | grep PATH in the script just before the executable is called, and it lists ~/.local/bin in there
1607[12:47:32] <alkisg> WhatisRT_: note that ~ is expended by the shell, you shouldn't be using it in scripts
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1609[12:48:05] <WhatisRT_> so I should not add ~/ but instead the full path to my PATH?
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1611[12:48:20] <alkisg> Yes, especially if other users can ru nit
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1613[12:48:34] <WhatisRT_> ok, thanks
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1632[13:03:49] <azonenberg> Hi guys, having an interesting issue with gnome-calculator on debian with xfce
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1635[13:04:16] <azonenberg> help|about reports version 3.22.3, i'm on debian 9 fully patched amd64
1636[13:04:44] <azonenberg> It seems like it sometimes reports incorrect results based on ignoring the last thing you type in the edit box before hitting enter
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1638[13:04:52] <azonenberg> for example 9+15 sometimes reports 10 instead of 24
1639[13:04:55] <azonenberg> because it was parsed as 9+1
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1642[13:05:27] <azonenberg> replaced-url
1643[13:05:36] <azonenberg> anybody seen this before?
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1645[13:06:30] <azonenberg> (note that the command log shows the correct text and the wrong result)
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1647[13:09:19] <bites> azonenberg: sure that's the right link? i can't get a dns lookup for that address.
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1650[13:09:35] <azonenberg> bites: grrr my vps is down
1651[13:09:38] <azonenberg> (the box hosts DNS for itself)
1652[13:09:45] <bites> hehe
1653[13:09:46] <azonenberg> let me upload to somewhere else
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1655[13:10:08] <azonenberg> silly me thinking a datacenter would have higher uptime than my business cable + UPS + generator setup
1656[13:10:09] <azonenberg> lol
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1659[13:11:04] <azonenberg> bites: replaced-url
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1661[13:11:55] <bites> gnome calculator is bad at math lol
1662[13:12:13] <azonenberg> But what's interesting is, and i've seen this repeatedly (no obvious triggers for it, sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't)
1663[13:12:22] <azonenberg> it appears to consistently not parse the last character i type
1664[13:12:30] <azonenberg> The rest of the calculation is right
1665[13:12:35] <azonenberg> like, 1000 / 10 will sometimes report 1000
1666[13:12:40] <azonenberg> because it thinks i divided by 1
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1668[13:13:16] <azonenberg> i'm assuming the keyboard driver/input stack is fine since it's getting the keystrokes right
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1671[13:13:24] <azonenberg> the bug has to be in the expression parsing engine
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1674[13:14:01] <bites> #811503
1675[13:14:02] <judd> Bug replaced-url
1676[13:14:11] <bites> this seems to be the same bug.
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1679[13:15:02] <bites> and upstream is already on it. replaced-url
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1681[13:15:54] <azonenberg> on it, meaning the maintainer commented on the bug 2 years ago and hasn't touched it since? lol
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1683[13:16:44] <bites> yeah, should have been alredy fixed.
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1685[13:17:48] <azonenberg> yeah well clearly it hasnt
1686[13:17:51] <bites> this was reported for 3.18 and stretch has 3.22. you could ask on the mailing list for the progress and remind them that the bug is still there.
1687[13:17:52] <azonenberg> that was 3.18.x
1688[13:18:05] <Guest8391> Hi, I have a file with the follow contents replaced-url
1689[13:18:05] <azonenberg> this should be a fairly high priority bug
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1691[13:18:12] <azonenberg> i mean a calculator should give correct results :p
1692[13:18:35] <azonenberg> Is the mailing list guest-sendable or am i gonna have to register?
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1695[13:19:31] <bites> on gnome.org you need to register it seems.
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1697[13:20:27] <michael2> does anyone know, when the command `umount' is run - does umount automatically perform sync with the disk (i.e. finish flushing buffer to disk) ?
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1699[13:20:54] <Kelsar> michael2: the kernel does this, yes
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1701[13:21:32] <Guest8391> I developed my grep further to use this now cat file | grep -o 'SIP/.*)' which looks promising. Can I set on the grep after the wildcard to only continue till it encouters a ) char?
1702[13:22:21] <Kelsar> Guest8391: useless use of cat ;)
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1704[13:22:41] <Kelsar> grep -o 'SIP/.*)' file
1705[13:22:47] <michael2> Kelsar: do you know if the syncing happens before or after detaching the filesystem from the device?
1706[13:23:03] <hummingbird> azonenberg: is it possible to switch to another calculator app?
1707[13:23:04] <Kelsar> michael2: detaching the filesystem from the device?
1708[13:23:06] <Guest8391> Ok sure, I can change that. But still I need the wildcard match to stop when it encounters a )
1709[13:23:10] <Guest8391> that would give me the entire SIP/username part
1710[13:23:32] <Kelsar> michael2: it is part of the cleanup from the mount, the kernel flushes its bufferts to disk
1711[13:23:42] <PerfDave> grep -o 'SIP/[^)]*' file
1712[13:24:07] <azonenberg> hummingbird: sure, got one to suggest? I mostly want easy binary bit twiddling and base conversoin
1713[13:24:30] <azonenberg> alternatively, $5 by paypal to anybody who sends me a patch that fixes that bug :p
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1715[13:24:33] <Kelsar> michael2: what is your actual problem?
1716[13:24:43] <michael2> Kelsar: ah, I was thinking of the disks buffers - not the kernel buffer
1717[13:25:02] <Guest8391> PerfDave: cool. Not sure what is happening there
1718[13:25:04] <Kelsar> michael2: disk buffers are kernel buffers or do you mean on hardware memory?
1719[13:25:18] <Kelsar> michael2: like the cache on the drive itself
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1721[13:26:49] <PerfDave> Guest8391: . is any character; [] is any character inside the square brackets; ) is a bracket and ^ is a negator. So [^)] is "Any character that isn't )", and [^)]* is "0 or more characters which aren't )"
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1723[13:26:52] <hummingbird> azonenber: i use SpeedCrunch, but I'm not sure if that has what you are looking for
1724[13:27:10] <PerfDave> Guest8391: So you're searching for "SIP/" followed by 0 or more characters which aren't )
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1726[13:27:44] <Kelsar> PerfDave: not sure about debian defaults, but doesn't he need -e for that?
1727[13:27:44] <hummingbird> azonenberg: i use SpeedCrunch, but I'm not sure if that has what you are looking for
1728[13:27:58] <PerfDave> Kelsar: Not according to my testing :)
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1730[13:28:34] <PerfDave> Kelsar: I also think you mean grep -E, or egrep :)
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1732[13:28:45] <Guest8391> Ok, cool
1733[13:28:57] <Kelsar> true
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1735[13:30:15] <michael2> Kelsar: I was thinking of the hard disk cache. but what really want to know is - if I run `umount /some/mounted/folder' and umount completes with exit code 0. can I have confidence that the device (USB) is safe to remove? i.e. all file descriptors closed, kernel buffers written, inodes updated, hard disk caches written - the whole deal - am I totally good to unplug?
1736[13:30:41] <Kelsar> michael2: yes, as long as the device honors barriers
1737[13:30:51] <Kelsar> if not, you out of luck anyways ;)
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1740[13:31:45] <petn-randall> michael2: If umount exits, all buffers the kernel knows of are written and acknoledged by the disk.
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1742[13:32:16] <petn-randall> michael2: If you for some reason should get data corruption, it's either a kernel bug, or the USB drive in question is lying about write commits.
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1744[13:33:28] <michael2> Kelsar: cool. if I mount manually and forget to run `unmount ...' before doing a reboot shutdown. will debian notice my - still mounted - removal media and do its best to perform all those housekeeping tasks?
1745[13:33:43] <Kelsar> michael2: it will umount everything
1746[13:33:59] <Kelsar> after killing everything else
1747[13:34:12] <Kelsar> usually that is safe/save... what would be correct?
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1749[13:35:33] <michael2> what about a LUKS container - which would require the mapper to be unplugged from /dev/mapper/my_usb after the directory is `umount'ed ? will debian unplug the mapper? or only umount the directory?
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1757[13:36:44] <Kelsar> usually systems will try to unroll everything
1758[13:37:09] <Kelsar> to be fair int that case umount the filesystem should allready be enough
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1761[13:38:53] <michael2> my thinking too. i.e. if the directory is `umounted' then - from what you're saying - it wouldn't matter too much if the mapper was in place because all data transfers will have long been "closed off"
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1766[13:40:46] <michael2> I read that the luks header can get corrupted. but I guess thats more in the case of a unpredicted, rapid loss of power or similar - although I would have thought a luks header would implement some kind of journaling mechanism
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1773[13:42:57] <PerfDave> michael2: I use FDE and don't explicitly unmount things before shutdown. Would be kind of hard with an encrypted rootfs ;)
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1777[13:45:18] <michael2> PerfDave: sweet, I'd like to get a setup like that myself at some point. FDE?
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1780[13:46:14] <PerfDave> full-disk encryption
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1782[13:46:43] <jelly> ,v python3.6
1783[13:46:44] <judd> Package: python3.6 on amd64 -- buster: 3.6.5~rc1-1; sid: 3.6.5-3
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1812[14:00:24] <sysx1000> hello. I'd like to have / and /usr read-only and /home and /var mounted over nfs. How can I do that with systemd? AFAIK it requires /var
1813[14:00:47] <sysx1000> on boot time
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1817[14:02:30] <Brigo> sysx1000, i think it will boot anyway.
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1819[14:03:35] <sysx1000> So, fstab with /var over nfs widd to the job correctly? No specific setup of systemd is required?
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1823[14:06:22] <chamaeleon> Yes, should do it
1824[14:06:25] <sysx1000> I have found myriad of examples on how to mount everything over nfs, but /usr or /var
1825[14:06:28] <Brigo> sysx1000, i really don't know.
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1828[14:07:05] <sysx1000> My system is on tf card, so letting var rw there will scratch it for sure
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1831[14:07:38] <Brigo> i think a systemd system should be capable of booting without /var or /usr, though i am not sure.
1832[14:07:38] <sysx1000> nfs
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1834[14:08:21] <chamaeleon> Well, maybe some service will fall because don't have write permission.
1835[14:08:23] <Brigo> sysx1000, not really even is the system is rw there is not much writing in those directories.
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1839[14:08:47] <Brigo> configuration without /etc for sure.
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1856[14:25:29] <Kelsar> Brigo: systemd can't boot without usr
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1862[14:28:21] <Brigo> Kelsar, what about this? replaced-url
1863[14:29:16] <Kelsar> Brigo: usually "it is not our fault!!!" and to be fair, it is not only systemd
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1910[14:52:06] <pragomer> I want to know the speed of man lan to my synology nas. want to copy a big file to it. what program should I use (cp, rsync, etc) that shows mit mb/s of my lan-speed?
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1912[14:53:07] <Brigo> pragomer, i thik rsync has an option for that.
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1916[14:54:26] <Brigo> pragomer, --progress should do it.
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1923[14:55:39] <jakew> when i do a df i get '/dev/sda1 49278612 40515032 6230668 87% /', but when i do a du / it only adds up to 4.652GB, what am i missing?
1924[14:56:14] <jakew> this is a virtualbox instance of debian 9.0 with a dynamic vdi
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1929[14:57:16] <noodlepie> du -sm /*
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1933[14:58:36] <petn-randall> jakew: 1000 vs 1024 for kilo, and I don't know if both tools handle sparse files the same.
1934[14:59:06] <jakew> but i mean it's using 40gb out of the allocated 50 when looking at df, and only 4.6gb when i do a du
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1936[14:59:27] <pragomer> thank you
1937[14:59:40] <pragomer> i will try rsync and just copy a 20gb image
1938[14:59:44] <pragomer> thank u all
1939[14:59:46] <petn-randall> jakew: That would hint that they don't treat sparse files the same ....
1940[14:59:58] <jakew> it ran out of space the other day and i cant figure out what is using it all up
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1942[15:00:33] <noodlepie> du -sm /* will show you which root directory contains what size of files. You can track the problem down this way.
1943[15:00:49] <jakew> noodlepie: ok it is still running
1944[15:01:06] <noodlepie> also du -sm / will show you the collection of file sized in the / tree.
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1946[15:01:43] <petn-randall> jakew: Also, any open file descriptors of deleted files will still use disk space until that FD is closed. That used space will show up in df but not in du.
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1949[15:02:14] <Stummi> pragomer, theres also iperf
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1951[15:02:31] <jakew> hmm so it could be related to a rsync job i had scheduled maybe?
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1953[15:04:33] <jakew> du -sm /* finished and it added up to about 4.6gb again
1954[15:05:52] <noodlepie> What'dit say?
1955[15:06:07] <noodlepie> What was you biggest folder in /?
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1957[15:07:08] <noodlepie> It should be lib64 or /home
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1964[15:09:53] <Ool> diff du / df = ko // kio conversion + reserved space for root and perhaps suppress files but still opened , no ?
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2007[15:25:25] <jakew> 3323 /var
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2009[15:25:32] <jakew> that was the biggest folder
2010[15:25:52] <jakew> had my apache2 files in it..
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2091[16:06:06] <petn-randall> I just accidental pressed a ctrl + key combo that deleted everything back to the first single quote in `sed -i 's/foo/ba`, and it's not ^w. Anyone know what key combo that was?
2092[16:06:32] <petn-randall> I'd love to know it since ^w would delete all including the quote.
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2095[16:07:17] <petemc> not alt b?
2096[16:07:45] <petemc> oh, that just moves
2097[16:08:01] <jelly> petn-randall: which shell?
2098[16:08:10] <jelly> emacs or vi mode?
2099[16:08:19] <jelly> which debian release? :-D
2100[16:08:33] <petn-randall> jelly: bash, defauls which IIRC is emacs mode.
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2102[16:08:39] <petn-randall> *default
2103[16:08:50] <jelly> obviously emacs mode if you think ^w is supposed to do something
2104[16:09:02] <jelly> :wq
2105[16:09:10] <karlpinc> :)
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2108[16:10:08] <karlpinc> petn-randall: Wouldn't ^w kill from point to mark, whereever mark was?
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2110[16:10:42] <Mchammerdad> Hey guys, I cannot seem to get my RealTek NIC to work on a fresh install. I figured out (with your help) that it was a non-free firmware issue. I downloaded the firmware from debian's website and dpkg -i firmware-realtek.deb
2111[16:11:11] <petn-randall> I don't know emacs, but in my shell it deletes everything leftwards to the first space it encounters.
2112[16:11:29] <Mchammerdad> However after a reboot my issue still persists, /var/log/messages has a line that states "rtl_nic\8168g-2 failed to load" and lsmod shows 8169 loaded.
2113[16:11:49] <Mchammerdad> Desperately need some advice on next steps here.
2114[16:11:56] <karlpinc> petn-randall: I'd expect that to be M-Backspace (alt-backspace)
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2116[16:12:07] <jelly> Mchammerdad: which version of firmware-realtek package do you have installed right now?
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2119[16:12:23] <jelly> ,v firmware-realtek
2120[16:12:25] <judd> Package: firmware-realtek on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-3; stretch-backports/non-free: 20170823-1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20170823-1; sid/non-free: 20170823-1
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2122[16:12:47] <Mchammerdad> jelly, 20161130-3
2123[16:13:16] <Mchammerdad> I have 0 network access so I can't install via apt-get
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2125[16:13:47] <jelly> that sounds right for debian 9
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2127[16:14:40] <Mchammerdad> can I manually force a firmware/module to load? and how would I do so?
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2130[16:14:57] <petn-randall> karlpinc: Sweet $deity! I probably pressed an equivalent, but it'll save me lots of time in the future. Thanks!
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2132[16:15:29] <jelly> Mchammerdad: what's the exact error line you see in dmesg?
2133[16:15:37] <themill> petn-randall: Esc+backspace is the same
2134[16:15:41] <jelly> Mchammerdad: is /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw file present on the system?
2135[16:15:48] <karlpinc> Mchammerdad: IIRC yesterday you gave us a pciid. judd told us: [10ec:8168] is 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller' ... with kernel module 'r8169' in stretch.
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2137[16:16:41] <petn-randall> themill: IIRC it was ctrl + something, but I wasn't actively focusing on my keystrokes when it happened.
2138[16:16:49] <karlpinc> petn-randall: Installing the emacs25-common-non-dfsg package and going through the beginning of the tutorial for a few minutes can be a worthwhile use of time.
2139[16:17:23] <petn-randall> I've always been annoyed that ^W also gobbles non-alphanumeric chars, so ...
2140[16:17:35] <petn-randall> karlpinc: Might do, or I could switch to bash vim mode. :P
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2142[16:20:00] <karlpinc> Mchammerdad: But you mentioned the 8169 module. You ment r8169, yes?
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2145[16:21:15] <Mchammerdad> jelly, karl, 2 secs while I type up some context.
2146[16:22:18] <jelly> Mchammerdad: you may take a camera shot of the screen and upload the image to eg. imgur.com
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2157[16:25:34] <Mchammerdad> I'm happy report that the continued issue of this as purely stupidity on my part.
2158[16:25:58] <Mchammerdad> It is working as of the firmware install, I changed the machiens location (to my office) and forgot I had static IP settings applied.
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2162[16:27:11] <karlpinc> Mchammerdad: Good. Always helps to talk with somebody about your problem. :)
2163[16:28:09] <karlpinc> Mchammerdad: Might want to look through the logs/dmesg for firmware messages and enable the non-free repo and install more firmware if you find you need to.
2164[16:28:19] <jelly> !win Mchammerdad
2165[16:28:20] <dpkg> Congratulations, Mchammerdad! You have won a one way ticket to Beirut!
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2168[16:29:39] <Mchammerdad> I will do so, thank you both for your help.
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2203[16:44:17] <sn00bie> !win
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2205[16:44:28] <sn00bie> !win sn00bie
2206[16:44:28] <dpkg> Congratulations, sn00bie! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120!
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2222[16:53:49] <galex-713> Hi
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2224[16:54:24] <galex-713> How can I create a such file that is a connexion between two (debian) computers, so that, if I read/write in this file, the other can write/read in an analogous file on their system
2225[16:54:48] <galex-713> I tried with netcat -U (however that only works with -l), and the <> bash stream operator, but that doesn’t work with cgoban
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2229[16:55:05] <galex-713> (I’m trying to do this to set up a p2p cgoban connection with the gomodem protocol)
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2236[16:56:34] <jelly> galex-713: is it a regular file?
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2239[16:56:52] <galex-713> jelly: I tried with both regular files and files created with mkfifo
2240[16:57:02] <galex-713> though I’m not exactely sure how do fifo files work
2241[16:57:05] <jelly> mkfifo will be strictly local.
2242[16:57:31] <galex-713> I use mkfifo to read/write in it with netcat
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2245[16:57:45] <galex-713> with <>file >&0
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2247[16:58:21] <karlpinc> galex-713: I'm not sure what you're trying to do but if netcat _almost_ works you might try using socat instead. It works when netcat does not.
2248[16:58:25] <galex-713> I noticed I can run two instances of cgoban that communicate together with the gomodem protocol using a file even if it’s a regular file, if they’re on the same computer
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2251[16:58:49] <galex-713> karlpinc: I found its name on stackexchange and installed it but didn’t figured out how it works
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2259[17:04:56] <karlpinc> galex-713: debtags says cgoban is "network::client", which means you may be able to use ssh port forwarding with 'ssh -L'. That could be simplest. (or -R if that's more convenient.)
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2261[17:07:28] <galex-713> karlpinc: like logging on the other machine and launching there cgoban yet using it on my own machine?
2262[17:07:47] <galex-713> I have to notice this is to play go with a friend whose computer isn’t mine, so I won’t have ssh access to it
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2264[17:07:55] <sine0> how can I add to folders and the recursive of those into a zip
2265[17:07:59] <sine0> as in create the zip
2266[17:08:00] <OS-37338> /join #offsec
2267[17:08:16] <sine0> zip -c folder1 folder2 output.zip
2268[17:08:21] <sine0> something like that..
2269[17:08:34] <OS-37338> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY z938Gn4mFc6
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2271[17:09:08] <petn-randall> OS-37338: You might want to change that password NOW.
2272[17:09:22] <galex-713> oops
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2274[17:09:27] <bug> os-37
2275[17:09:31] <galex-713> you might want to msg/query this
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2277[17:10:00] <bug> and he's gone...
2278[17:10:07] * PerfDave does the happy auth-by-ssl-certs dance
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2280[17:10:21] <PerfDave> replaced-url
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2285[17:11:33] <petn-randall> PerfDave: Nice! Didn't know about that.
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2287[17:11:51] <galex-713> karlpinc: jelly: note cgoban, in local, doesn’t work with a file created with mkfifo, only with a regular file
2288[17:11:57] <galex-713> yet using the “device file” option
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2290[17:12:15] <galex-713> there’s also a “program” option, but it doesn’t seem to work to simply put netcat there instead of gnugo
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2292[17:12:29] <sine0> guys he is a leet hacker, he did it on purpose
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2294[17:13:00] <bug> it's a trap?
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2296[17:13:32] <galex-713> PerfDave: one day I’ll auth with my pgp key using gnutls
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2300[17:14:07] <sine0> these offsec dudes always wander in here like a friday night drunk tank, you just have to shoulder nudge them to the nearest uber
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2323[17:27:01] <karlpinc> galex-713: A FIFO is unidirectional. You could use socat to setup a Unix socket connected to another Unix socket made with socat at the other end. But there's no security. How about sharing a file with samba or nfs? (I don't know what file sharing would look like in terms of latency or multiple writers, but at least you'd get some security.)
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2325[17:29:03] <galex-713> karlpinc: it’s on a local network, for now
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2327[17:29:16] <galex-713> with a looooong wpa key we’re only two or three to know
2328[17:29:25] <galex-713> and we’re currently only 2 in the appartment
2329[17:29:40] <galex-713> also setting up nfs or samba is more complex than what I’d like
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2331[17:29:55] <galex-713> maybe samba wouldn’t… but i’m not sure it would work in term of multiple writers
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2334[17:30:30] <galex-713> and, if I can make it work with something such as netcat, socat, bash, etc. I might do the same as well using gnutls-cli or something alike
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2352[17:36:30] <nmschulte> I want to install some CA certificates to my system. I've managed to install them to /etc/ssl/certs (via /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/ and update-ca-certificates), but Thunderbird and Chrome don't pick these up.
2353[17:36:58] <nmschulte> I understand there's a PKI db via libnss at ~/.pki/nssdb, and I've updated it, but again, Thunderbird and Chrome aren't pulling them in.
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2355[17:37:23] <nmschulte> I can add them to Thunderbird and Chrome manually, but I'd rather do this system or user-wide.
2356[17:37:33] <nmschulte> (is there a user-wide variant of /etc/ssl/certs ?)
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2368[17:42:32] <ponziopilato> hi, is this a good place to ask questions about how to use gnu make? Or what other channel can I ask to?
2369[17:43:18] <annadane> you can ask here, or #gnu
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2371[17:43:44] <karlpinc> galex-713: So use socat. On one end have your go program read/write to a unix socket, made with socat connected to a listening tcp port. On the other another socket read and written by that side's go program, the socket connected to a tcp connection talking to the listening port on the first computer. But you need to run the steps in the right order. First listen, then connect to lisening port, at which point your two unix sockets
2372[17:43:44] <karlpinc> exist and you can use them.
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2374[17:44:11] <galex-713> yeah, like I did with netcat
2375[17:44:30] <galex-713> I’m just trying hard and failing at understanding the way you use socat interface (options, etc.)
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2377[17:45:03] <galex-713> socat - TCP4-LISTEN:localhost:1234 doesn’t work for instance
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2379[17:45:13] <galex-713> (it says it has two parameters instead of 1)
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2381[17:45:31] <tharkun> Aloha, I am trying to make the gnome-terminal under debian transparent yet I am unaible to do so. I've poked at different live distributions and it seems to be possible. Where should I look for that particular config under Debian?
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2386[17:46:42] <ponziopilato> ok I'll give it a shot. So basically I have a fold into which I mirror files from another place. The folder contains thousands of text files, and I'm using 'make' to convert all of them to html/pdf. The problem is that it takes a lot of time, but only a few files are updated at a time. How can I tell make "look which files have been updated, and only convert them instead of convert the whole directory"?
2387[17:46:46] <karlpinc> (My opinion is that transparent terminals are like transparent toilets; a good idea until you use them.)
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2392[17:47:31] <annadane> transparent toilets were ever a good idea?
2393[17:47:52] <galex-713> ponziopilato: is each file a target?
2394[17:48:17] <karlpinc> ponziopilato: I'd think about using wildcards in your make targets. The info docs for make are helpful.
2395[17:48:27] <galex-713> like do you do something such as %.html: % ; my-convert-program $< $@
2396[17:48:31] <ponziopilato> galex-713: so far no, I only have a single target inside which I run a loop. I'm not sure how to make a target for every file
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2398[17:48:49] <karlpinc> galex-713: Yah. Something like that.
2399[17:48:57] <galex-713> ponziopilato: bad idea, also you can’t parallelize this, while gnu make could natively parallelize everything if you made one target per file
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2405[17:49:39] <galex-713> ponziopilato: what is your loop?
2406[17:49:59] <galex-713> ponziopilato: if it takes more than two lines, use paste.debian.net or another pasting service
2407[17:50:04] <tharkun> karlpinc: Not that I want a full transparency but since notion will no longer be ported to wayland I better start looking for a replacement and gnome does not play well with urxvt. The only terminal that seems to work half way good is gnome-terminal
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2410[17:50:57] <ponziopilato> galex-713: find . -type f -name "*.txt" | while read filename ; do convert-program done
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2414[17:51:18] <tharkun> Or a nice replacement for a fixed tabbed wm would also work. Alt-Tab switches between too many windows so my workflow gets totally borked.
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2416[17:51:21] <galex-713> ponziopilato: it seems your loop doesn’t work with filenames with space in them
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2419[17:51:36] <galex-713> where do you use the "$filename" variable?
2420[17:51:53] <galex-713> or is it an envar your convert-program reads internally?
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2422[17:52:05] <galex-713> s/envar/environment variable/
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2427[17:52:29] <ponziopilato> galex-713: find . -type f -name "*.txt" | while IFS="\n" read filename ; do txt2html "$${filename}" done
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2429[17:53:01] <galex-713> ah okay
2430[17:53:31] <galex-713> yeah then it doesn’t support filenames with newlines in them, but I never saw them and that’s anyway not advised against x)
2431[17:53:53] <ponziopilato> i'm looking at wildcards if i can understand how they work
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2434[17:54:02] <PerfDave> ponziopilato: -print0 and IFS=$'\0'
2435[17:54:07] <theseb> help! i see cron when i check ps output but still daily backup script doesn't fire!? how debug?
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2437[17:54:47] <galex-713> PerfDave: I’m almost sure ext allows \0 in filenames :P
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2439[17:55:08] <galex-713> but now, passed \n support, we’re almost trolling
2440[17:55:12] <PerfDave> galex-713: It doesn't :)
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2444[17:55:17] <galex-713> sure?
2445[17:55:21] <PerfDave> And it's easy to get this right, so why get it wrong?
2446[17:55:30] <galex-713> I thought the only disallowed character was /
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2448[17:55:41] <galex-713> in fact you’re right
2449[17:55:47] <galex-713> anything except NULL and /
2450[17:55:53] <galex-713> how sad
2451[17:56:06] <ponziopilato> "\n" is a valid char for a file name?
2452[17:56:11] <galex-713> ponziopilato: yes it is
2453[17:56:15] <greycat> yes
2454[17:56:15] <galex-713> on unix
2455[17:56:21] <galex-713> not fat/ntfs/windows
2456[17:56:25] <greycat> touch $'foo\nbar'
2457[17:56:38] <galex-713> but nobody create such files
2458[17:56:40] <ponziopilato> oh the more you know
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2460[17:56:50] <galex-713> except maybe if it introduces an exploitable security hole
2461[17:56:54] <greycat> galex-713: yes, they do. Either by accident or by malicious intent.
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2463[17:57:05] <galex-713> but there it only means it would uselessly update some files, that’s not that risky
2464[17:57:16] <galex-713> greycat: by accident? people do that by accident?
2465[17:57:31] <galex-713> ponziopilato: doesn’t txt2html output to stdout by default?
2466[17:57:42] <greycat> I would guess that it's more commonly accidental than intentional, yes. Except people like me who do it on purpose to test things.
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2469[17:58:25] <ponziopilato> galex-713: yes i just tried to make the example shorter because it wasn't really relevant to my question
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2473[17:58:33] <galex-713> greycat: it’s difficult with gui, and except with \n or by really weird usage of quotes I can’t see how to do that otherwise
2474[17:58:37] <greycat> I missed the context of this discussion.
2475[17:58:39] <galex-713> ponziopilato: it is
2476[17:58:47] <galex-713> so, if you use --output as I think
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2478[17:58:48] <greycat> galex-713: GUI? People use a GUI?
2479[17:59:02] <galex-713> *outfile sorry
2480[17:59:06] <galex-713> greycat: :P
2481[17:59:15] <greycat> The most common way people end up with bizarre filenames is accidentally pasting something with the mouse, probably.
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2483[17:59:20] <greycat> Fat-fingering a command can also do it.
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2486[17:59:40] <galex-713> ponziopilato: so %.html : %.txt ; txt2html '$<' --outfile '$@'
2487[18:00:00] <greycat> Oh, it's a Makefile question? Then I'm not the one to answer it, anyway.
2488[18:00:07] <galex-713> this way it should support anything but ' in file names I guess
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2491[18:00:20] <galex-713> greycat: I recently reread all the manual of gnu make :)
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2493[18:00:26] <galex-713> that’s a usefull coincidence
2494[18:00:27] <greycat> In #bash, we direct make questions to ##workingset
2495[18:00:38] <galex-713> workingset?
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2497[18:01:12] <galex-713> ponziopilato: then, with -j -l <number-of-cpu-cores+1> it’s natively parallelized
2498[18:01:34] <ponziopilato> thanks fot the info galex-713
2499[18:01:48] <galex-713> -j means it runs as many versions of the programs it can at the same time
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2503[18:02:01] <greycat> Filenames with ' in them are much more common than filenames with newlines.
2504[18:02:03] <galex-713> and -l N means keep doing that until the system load in below N
2505[18:02:10] <ponziopilato> galex-713: is there also an option to match files in subdirectories? I would guess that % only matches the current dir
2506[18:02:21] <galex-713> greycat: yeah :/ but I don’t know if there’s a way to get this right with shell/make
2507[18:02:40] <galex-713> ponziopilato: no it doesn’t it matchs subdirectories as well
2508[18:02:49] <galex-713> but you need a main goal to run this on all the files
2509[18:02:51] <greycat> The goal is to recursively transform every *.foo file with a command, and to parallelize it?
2510[18:04:16] <galex-713> so something such as: all: $(patsubst %.txt,%.html,$(shell find . -type f -name "*.txt"))
2511[18:04:20] <galex-713> at the beginning
2512[18:04:27] <galex-713> then make, or make all, would update everything
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2514[18:04:55] <galex-713> greycat: the goal is above all not to update unchanged files
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2517[18:05:16] <galex-713> I was just noticing if he make each file into a target, and use make the way it’s intended to be, he also can parallelize this
2518[18:05:26] <galex-713> it doesn’t need to be recursive
2519[18:05:42] <galex-713> ponziopilato: add this: all: $(patsubst %.txt,%.html,$(shell find . -type f -name "*.txt"))
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2521[18:05:49] <galex-713> before the %.html line
2522[18:05:50] <greycat> This sounds way beyond the scope of #debian. And ponziopilato just said he wanted it in subdirectories.
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2524[18:06:10] <galex-713> greycat: using find will find files in subdirectories
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2526[18:06:25] <galex-713> the only difference is using make syntax instead of a while loop
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2528[18:06:53] <galex-713> greycat: he asked if this was the right place, annadane answered that yes, here and #gnu
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2531[18:07:03] <galex-713> *they
2532[18:07:11] <greycat> Was that before the full scope of the problem was revealed?
2533[18:07:17] <galex-713> yes
2534[18:07:32] <galex-713> they asked if this was the right place to ask a question about gnu make
2535[18:07:37] <greycat> hahahahaha
2536[18:07:47] <galex-713> and globally, that question is how to use gnu make :)
2537[18:07:48] <bites> can't take it back now :P
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2540[18:09:33] <greycat> Well, I have a solution for "Recursively process every *.xyz file in parallel", but it would need additional code to handle "Unless the file has already been processed, in which case skip it."
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2543[18:10:41] <greycat> And the obvious way to add that component would be *IN* the processing function, so you might end up with a case where you run 4 jobs at a time, but 3 of them just do nothing because the output file already exists. Not sure if that's important to you or not.
2544[18:10:41] <galex-713> greycat: I find make is the right tool for this, they weren’t wrong on this
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2546[18:10:49] <greycat> *shrug*
2547[18:10:57] <annadane> should i have asked them to ask in #parrot? :D
2548[18:10:58] <greycat> I'll defer to ##workingset or #gnu for that.
2549[18:11:05] <galex-713> greycat: make wouldn’t launch useless jobs
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2551[18:11:22] <greycat> Granted, yes. But does it recursively find all input files?
2552[18:11:24] <galex-713> make launch alternate jobs when the rule *has* to be remade
2553[18:11:29] <galex-713> with find
2554[18:11:40] <galex-713> I proposed $(patsubst %.txt,%.html,$(shell find . -type f -name "*.txt"))
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2556[18:11:44] <greycat> I do not see how you combine make + find.
2557[18:11:48] <galex-713> that wouldn’t have been parallelized though
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2559[18:12:03] <galex-713> with the shell function
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2565[18:12:35] <no_gravity> How do I get infos about a package?
2566[18:12:40] <greycat> What info?
2567[18:12:50] <no_gravity> Good question. Any info :)
2568[18:13:04] <greycat> no_gravity: dpkg -s pkgname
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2570[18:13:22] <galex-713> ponziopilato: for instance, this should work: replaced-url
2571[18:13:23] <greycat> that only works on installed packages...
2572[18:13:29] <no_gravity> I see.
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2575[18:13:38] <galex-713> no_gravity: I usually use apt show package
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2578[18:14:24] <no_gravity> So I am on a system where there is a programm 'composer'. But 'dpkg -s composer' says "package 'composer' is not installed and no information is available".
2579[18:14:26] <greycat> if you want info on a NON-installed package, typically apt-cache show, or replaced-url
2580[18:14:30] <no_gravity> What do I make of this?
2581[18:14:39] <no_gravity> How did 'composer' get onto this system?
2582[18:14:52] <no_gravity> got onto
2583[18:14:57] <greycat> OK, start with "type composer" to learn where the program actually IS.
2584[18:15:08] <greycat> Then use "dpkg -S pathname" to see what package, if any, the program is part of.
2585[18:15:08] <no_gravity> composer is hashed (/usr/local/bin/composer)
2586[18:15:21] <greycat> It's not from a Debian package, then.
2587[18:15:27] <greycat> Debian packages will NEVER put programs in /usr/local.
2588[18:15:30] <no_gravity> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/bin/composer
2589[18:15:48] <no_gravity> So this 'thing' will have to be updated manually I guess.
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2592[18:16:07] <greycat> It was either installed by you, or by someone else with the root password, or it's from a non-Debian package.
2593[18:16:16] <ponziopilato> galex-713: I'm trying it but I always get this error Makefile:6: *** multiple target patterns. Stop.
2594[18:17:09] <no_gravity> greycat: Yeah. Looks like it's not part of Debian: replaced-url
2595[18:17:21] <greycat> ... well actually it's not from a package, because your dpkg -S already ruled that out.
2596[18:17:47] <no_gravity> I see.
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2598[18:18:04] <greycat> So you just recently inherited this system? You didn't install composer?
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2606[18:23:57] <galex-713> ponziopilato: I tried it and here it works: did you add anything to your makefile?
2607[18:24:46] <ponziopilato> no, I've tried on a test directory and it works. I don't know if it's because the other directory has to many files? O files with strange names?
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2609[18:24:55] <galex-713> ponziopilato: do you have filenames containing “:”?
2610[18:25:02] <ponziopilato> yes
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2613[18:27:44] <galex-713> ponziopilato: try this then: replaced-url
2614[18:28:12] <galex-713> I begin to believe make should have an “escape” function, as well as a recursive wildcard function
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2616[18:28:56] <ponziopilato> make is magic, how does it understand which file was changed?
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2619[18:29:24] <galex-713> ponziopilato: it looks the modification time
2620[18:29:58] <galex-713> you can look it with ls -l too
2621[18:30:21] <ponziopilato> galex-713: does it do something like time(file.txt) - time(file.html) > 0 ?
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2623[18:30:52] <galex-713> ponziopilato: that has the downside that if you do “touch file”, or if you change something, then change it back so it’s the same, even if you didn’t do make in between, make will redo the file
2624[18:31:10] <galex-713> ponziopilato: yes exactly, it looks which is more recent
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2626[18:31:14] <ponziopilato> cool
2627[18:31:33] <galex-713> however it probably write it like time(file.txt) < time(file.html), or the opposite
2628[18:31:41] <galex-713> though assembly code would certainly do it as you did
2629[18:31:50] <tecneeq> rate my uptime:
2630[18:31:50] <tecneeq> root@albundy# uname -a ; uptime
2631[18:31:50] <tecneeq> SunOS albundy 5.6 Generic_105181-23 sun4u sparc sun4u
2632[18:31:51] <tecneeq> 6:29pm up 2587 day(s), 5:28, 3 users, load average: 0,18, 0,48, 0,64
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2634[18:32:02] <galex-713> tecneeq: impressive
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2636[18:32:17] <tecneeq> core system at work, nobody cares :)
2637[18:32:25] <galex-713> ponziopilato: does it works now anyway?
2638[18:32:26] <jrtc27> tecneeq: have you considered installing Debian on that? :P
2639[18:32:44] <tecneeq> i doubt the disk would spin on if i rebooted
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2641[18:33:02] <tecneeq> pram battery is like fuarked
2642[18:33:24] <tecneeq> one of three fans is broken
2643[18:33:33] <uptime> 8/10
2644[18:33:35] <tecneeq> the power supply emits a constant whine
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2646[18:33:43] <galex-713> ponziopilato: anyway make was precisely done with this kind of stuff in mind: update only what has been changed, that’s the main purpose of make, so each time you end doing loops in recipes, there’s usually a better way to do it without loops, but with make targets
2647[18:33:44] <tecneeq> uptime: beat me
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2650[18:35:02] <ponziopilato> galex-713: it seems to be working so far, still working... thank you very very much!
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2652[18:35:56] <galex-713> you’re welcome :)
2653[18:36:17] <galex-713> it has been a pleasure to make my recent rereading of gnu make manual even more useful :)
2654[18:36:26] <galex-713> also it’s a nice manual, you might want to read parts of it
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2657[18:36:42] <galex-713> (though it’s only in non-free :/)
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2666[18:38:25] <disi> why doesnt curl percent-encode urls before sending a request?
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2672[18:38:58] <disi> whereas wget, for example, does
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2700[18:53:12] <jhutchins_wk> Because they're different programs.
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2706[18:56:14] <tinix> uhh... is realtime kernel missing for anyone else?
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2708[18:57:11] <tw> ,v linux-image-rt
2709[18:57:11] <judd> No package named 'linux-image-rt' was found in amd64.
2710[18:57:31] <tw> ,v linux-image-rt-amd64
2711[18:57:32] <judd> Package: linux-image-rt-amd64 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-security: 3.2+46+deb7u1; jessie-backports: 4.9+80+deb9u2~bpo8+2; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u4; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u4; stretch-backports: 4.14+89~bpo9+1
2712[18:58:05] <tinix> E: Unable to locate package linux-image-rt-amd64
2713[18:58:06] <tinix> <_<
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2716[18:58:53] <tinix> i'm on buster fwiw
2717[18:58:55] <disi> jhutchins_wk: presumably following the same standards? shouldnt the http client always do the encoding?
2718[18:59:02] <greycat> !debian-next
2719[18:59:03] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
2720[18:59:27] <tinix> ugh
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2724[19:00:58] <tinix> why the hell is the testing channel on a whole different IRC network
2725[19:00:59] <tinix> lolwut
2726[19:01:21] <greycat> From the Debian Developers' point of view, it's *we* who are on the different IRC network.
2727[19:01:38] <greycat> All of the other Debian channels are over there, including another #debian.
2728[19:02:06] <tinix> i see
2729[19:02:12] <tinix> thanks
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2732[19:03:08] <kazdax> i am installing debian as my primary OS on my computer
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2734[19:03:28] <kazdax> and its still stuck on configuring xserver-xorg-legacy configuration
2735[19:03:34] <kazdax> does this part take time in installation process ?
2736[19:03:40] <kazdax> or is my installer stuck..the mouse moves btw
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2778[19:21:43] <jhutchins_wk> !oftc
2779[19:21:44] <dpkg> OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. replaced-url
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2781[19:22:01] * annadane pokes jhutchins_wk with a stick
2782[19:22:14] <jhutchins_wk> Yeah, I know, msg the bot.
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2784[19:22:29] <annadane> i'm just teasing
2785[19:22:39] <althalus_> is there a bash command to kill all previous background commands that used command & command & after like 30 mins..
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2790[19:24:01] <mutante> althalus_: maybe a combination of "jobs -p" and kill and a for-loop
2791[19:24:02] <greycat> althalus_: ... uh ... sleep 30m; kill $(jobs -p) ?
2792[19:24:10] <mutante> what greycat said :)
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2795[19:24:21] <greycat> This sounds like a really bad idea.
2796[19:24:30] <althalus_> that kills all the background job on that terminal?
2797[19:24:39] <greycat> No. All jobs of the current shell.
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2799[19:25:12] <althalus_> isnt shell a terminal?
2800[19:25:12] <greycat> If you launched some jobs from shell A, then launched shell B, then launched some more jobs, it will only get the jobs from shell B.
2801[19:25:15] <greycat> No.
2802[19:25:32] <greycat> Type "bash" inside bash and now you have two shells on the same terminal.
2803[19:26:06] <althalus_> im talking in a terminal command a & command b & command c & sleep 30; kill commanda,b,c,
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2805[19:26:29] <greycat> If you never launch a new shell, then sure, the command I gave will work.
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2809[19:26:43] <greycat> I still think this is a really bad idee.
2810[19:26:46] <greycat> idea.
2811[19:27:00] <althalus_> if it works it works
2812[19:27:04] <greycat> What is the actual problem you are trying to solve?
2813[19:27:08] <althalus_> in linux bad ideas are very subjective
2814[19:27:19] <althalus_> that one i just show you
2815[19:27:23] <greycat> *sigh*
2816[19:27:24] <greycat> !xy
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2818[19:27:25] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See replaced-url
2819[19:27:30] <althalus_> the wait commands lags like a mother fucker
2820[19:27:49] <greycat> You know what "wait" does, right? "Lags" is not even applicable.
2821[19:28:05] <greycat> That's like saying "Boy, that sleep command sure lags like a mofo"
2822[19:28:13] <althalus_> well i dont what its doing but it sure takes a long ass time
2823[19:28:19] <greycat> ...
2824[19:28:36] <althalus_> well the commands i am running should not be taking 2 hours to finish
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2827[19:28:59] <greycat> So your solution is "just kill them", instead of finding out why they are taking longer than expected?
2828[19:29:24] <greycat> And also instead of simply using timeout on each one?
2829[19:29:29] <althalus_> even when i do timeout 15m command a & timeout15m commandb & timeout command c & wait ..still takes a long ass time so i know something is off
2830[19:29:38] <greycat> ... and you already knew about timeout
2831[19:29:39] <althalus_> see i bet you to it :P
2832[19:29:43] <greycat> !wayttd
2833[19:29:44] <dpkg> What Are You Trying To Do?
2834[19:29:46] <althalus_> yep
2835[19:29:46] <althalus_> already tried
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2837[19:30:05] <althalus_> running commands at the same time in the background
2838[19:30:10] <althalus_> without consecutive ;
2839[19:30:14] <althalus_> then wait
2840[19:30:25] <althalus_> without it taking 2 hours
2841[19:30:26] <greycat> wait waits for them all to exit.
2842[19:30:31] <greycat> "help wait"
2843[19:31:10] <althalus_> well if they all timeout at 15 minutes then wait is waiting for something i dont want it to wait for :)
2844[19:31:17] <mutante> could go further and ask _why_ it actually matters it doesn't take longer than 2 hours. can't you just fire it up and go to sleep and check back later
2845[19:31:32] <greycat> mutante: NOOOO, that would require REVEALING INFORMATION
2846[19:31:40] <greycat> WE CAN'T REVEAL INFORMATION
2847[19:31:41] <althalus_> i have my reasons for a more efficient run
2848[19:31:45] <greycat> *plonk*
2849[19:31:49] <althalus_> still dont know why the kill all is a bad idea
2850[19:31:54] <greycat> WE HAVE OUR REASONS
2851[19:32:13] <jhutchins_wk> althalus_: Why aren't you running them in the foreground to see what they're doing? You could use screen with seperate windows for each one, that way you'd get whatever output they're showing.
2852[19:32:16] <althalus_> lmao
2853[19:32:44] <althalus_> well obviously wait is a piece of shit if timeout all of the commands is not sufficient
2854[19:33:06] <greycat> WE WON'T TELL YOU WHAT THE COMMANDS ARE, WHAT THEY DO, WHAT OUTPUT THEY GENERATE, HOW MANY WE'RE RUNNING, WHETHER THEY ARE CPU-BOUND OR I/O-BOUND, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY TRIED, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, ...
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2856[19:33:17] <jhutchins_wk> althalus_: if it were, it would have been dropped long ago. You just don't understand it.
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2859[19:34:16] <althalus_> jhutchins_wk: well i dont understand why it waits 2 hours AFTER all the commands have timeout..so your right i dont understand "it"
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2867[19:36:45] <jhutchins_wk> althalus_: Again, run them in the forground and see what's going on. Read the wait documents and see if some exit conditions don't trigger it.
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2869[19:38:19] <greycat> Might be better to have each one write to a separate log file.
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2872[19:40:19] <althalus_> well im trying that sleep 30m kill method now..hopefully that will work
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2906[19:55:17] <Kobaz> anyone familiar with early-ssh? I'm trying to get it to start... not sure how to debug why it's not starting at all
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2908[19:55:36] <Kobaz> boot the kernel with initrd pointed to the current one and it just does a normal boot
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2919[20:02:04] <glm> Anyone knows if there are RAM limitations for debian amd64?
2920[20:02:28] <Kobaz> shouldn't be
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2922[20:03:00] <glm> I have 2 servers with 256GB of RAM and both are throwing ECC errors that freeze the server
2923[20:03:15] <glm> Vendor says it's probably related to debian memory limits but I smell BS
2924[20:03:27] <Tenkawa> what specific ecc errors?
2925[20:04:23] <Kobaz> did you run memory testing?
2926[20:04:27] <Kobaz> (memtest86)
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2929[20:05:34] <Kobaz> what kkernel version?
2930[20:05:48] <glm> One is giving me IPMI messages of type 0x0C (Memory), Dir type 0x6F with data 0x3B80 (which is a DIMM location)
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2932[20:06:11] <glm> Which sounds like a faulty DIMM...
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2936[20:07:07] <glm> The other one hangs stiff with a console message:
2937[20:07:16] <glm> Node0: DRAM uncorrectable ECC Error
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2939[20:07:23] <glm> Node1: HT Link SYNC error
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2950[20:10:03] <Kobaz> [14:04:22] <Kobaz> did you run memory testing?
2951[20:10:04] <Kobaz> [14:04:27] <Kobaz> (memtest86)
2952[20:10:34] <Tenkawa> (its on the debian install cd)
2953[20:10:40] <glm> running as we speak :)
2954[20:10:44] <Tenkawa> ah
2955[20:10:56] <Kobaz> what test # are you on?
2956[20:11:29] <Kobaz> if it gets past #5, there's unlikely any physical memory problems
2957[20:11:41] <Tenkawa> how big cpu's/psu's btw?
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2963[20:12:59] <glm> 300W...for 4xHDDs and 256GB of RAM...(vendor's choice)
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2968[20:13:40] <Tenkawa> ok.
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2976[20:15:26] <Tenkawa> seems a bit low to me..
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2978[20:15:31] <Tenkawa> but thats just me
2979[20:15:38] <Kobaz> that's a little underspec'd
2980[20:15:39] <Kobaz> yeah
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2982[20:16:04] <glm> Indeed
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2986[20:17:01] <Tenkawa> that wattage would cause underruns and I think be very likerly to make incosistent ram errors
2987[20:17:10] <Tenkawa> but thats just my opinion
2988[20:17:40] <Kobaz> umm
2989[20:17:46] <Kobaz> yeah
2990[20:17:49] <Kobaz> 300 watt's is like
2991[20:17:55] <Kobaz> bare minimum to get the box booted
2992[20:18:03] <Kobaz> as soon as you do ANYTHING on that it's going to be underpowered
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2994[20:18:33] <Kobaz> i just did a quick calculation and with a bare minimum xeon and that much ram and 4 hard drives you're looking at 400-500 under load
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2996[20:19:09] <glm> It's an opteron, but yeah. it holds
2997[20:19:44] <Kobaz> you need like a 650+ watt psu in there
2998[20:19:54] <Kobaz> you should shut it down before something gets dammaged from underpower
2999[20:19:58] <Kobaz> which may have occurred already
3000[20:20:28] <rhizome> literally everyhting going wrong with this md raid upgrade
3001[20:20:49] <Kobaz> 300 is barely enough for anything at all, barely a desktop
3002[20:20:56] <Kobaz> wtf vendor sold you that
3003[20:21:03] <Tenkawa> yeah I was looking at whats being sold nowadays and minimum is 400+
3004[20:21:20] <Kobaz> and you dont spec the PSU for "just enough"
3005[20:21:22] <Tenkawa> rhizome: ouch
3006[20:21:27] <Kobaz> you want 50% headroom
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3008[20:21:56] <izaoeuoisdf> hi
3009[20:22:28] <izaoeuoisdf> What happens if i do apt-get install sqlite3
3010[20:22:44] <Kobaz> new and exciting software will be installed... like sqlite3
3011[20:22:45] <izaoeuoisdf> does this update the shared library installed on Debian, or the Python module named sqlite3?
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3013[20:22:49] <rhizome> it will install sqlite3. is this a trick question?
3014[20:23:00] <izaoeuoisdf> rhizome: yes, tricky because there are 3 possible things:
3015[20:23:01] <Kobaz> izaoeuoisdf: no. python libs will not be isntalled
3016[20:23:07] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: do an apt-cache show sqlite3 first
3017[20:23:10] <izaoeuoisdf> either sqlite as a shared library
3018[20:23:21] <izaoeuoisdf> either python module named sqlite3 "import sqlite3"
3019[20:23:22] <Tenkawa> and that gives you more info
3020[20:23:24] <glm> Thanks Kobaz
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3022[20:23:30] <Kobaz> it will install the sqlite3 probram
3023[20:23:33] <Kobaz> program
3024[20:23:51] <izaoeuoisdf> ok
3025[20:23:58] <izaoeuoisdf> here is my problem:
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3027[20:24:07] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: you need to block it if you dont want it to be upgraded
3028[20:24:12] <izaoeuoisdf> Python module sqlite3 is installed (built-in in Python)
3029[20:24:15] <rhizome> google is all about returning results from 2009 for all queries
3030[20:24:30] <izaoeuoisdf> and I don't find how to update it
3031[20:24:49] <izaoeuoisdf> I tried "pip install pysqlite" (another name for the Python module named sqlite3)
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3033[20:25:00] <izaoeuoisdf> but then it updates the Python wrapper, but not the actual library
3034[20:25:15] <izaoeuoisdf> so my question is: how to update the sqlite3 module?
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3039[20:26:39] <izaoeuoisdf> I tried: apt-get install --only-upgrade sqlite3
3040[20:26:52] <izaoeuoisdf> but I get: Skipping sqlite3, it is not installed and only upgrades are requested.
3041[20:27:08] <izaoeuoisdf> but sqlite3 _is_ installed, because I can access it via Python...
3042[20:27:12] <izaoeuoisdf> thus my misunderstanding...
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3044[20:27:41] <greycat> izaoeuoisdf: dpkg -l | grep sqlite
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3046[20:28:30] <izaoeuoisdf> I have this:
3047[20:28:33] <izaoeuoisdf> ii libsqlite3-0:amd64 3.8.2-1ubuntu2.1 amd64 SQLite 3 shared library
3048[20:28:33] <izaoeuoisdf> ii libsqlite3-dev:amd64 3.8.2-1ubuntu2.1 amd64 SQLite 3 development files
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3050[20:28:51] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: python-pysqlite1.1
3051[20:28:51] <greycat> then those are the package names
3052[20:29:04] <Tenkawa> try installing that
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3054[20:29:43] <greycat> but he said he already has it working in python...
3055[20:29:52] <Tenkawa> oh ok
3056[20:29:58] <izaoeuoisdf> greycat: yes sqlite3 is built-in
3057[20:29:59] <greycat> I'm really not sure what his goal is.
3058[20:30:08] <Tenkawa> didnt see he had the python piece working
3059[20:30:14] <greycat> Oh. I just saw the version numbers.
3060[20:30:20] <greycat> !tell izaoeuoisdf about ubuntu
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3062[20:30:39] <izaoeuoisdf> there's a 3rd thing adding even more confusion: there's a pysqlite library, which is close but not exactly the same packaging than built in sqlite3 module
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3065[20:31:11] <izaoeuoisdf> greycat: oh that's right, this is an ubuntu... all my other installs are debian, and i even forgot this one is still on ubuntu
3066[20:31:23] <izaoeuoisdf> my bad
3067[20:31:57] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: do you have an error output that you can pastebin that shows what is not working?
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3069[20:32:04] <Tenkawa> that would add context
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3071[20:32:30] <izaoeuoisdf> Tenkawa: I need to use a feature that is present on Sqlite 3.9.0
3072[20:32:33] <izaoeuoisdf> and I have 3.8.2 :/
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3074[20:32:57] <greycat> Oh, well, an apt-get upgrade would not solve that in any case.
3075[20:33:03] <Tenkawa> nope
3076[20:33:05] <izaoeuoisdf> apt-get install --only-upgrade libsqlite3-0:amd64 gives libsqlite3-0 is already the newest version.
3077[20:33:26] <greycat> ,v libsqlite3-0
3078[20:33:27] <judd> Package: libsqlite3-0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.7.13-1+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 3.7.13-1+deb7u4; jessie-security: 3.8.7.1-1+deb8u1; jessie: 3.8.7.1-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 3.16.2-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 3.16.2-5+deb9u1; buster: 3.23.1-1; sid: 3.23.1-1
3079[20:33:27] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: you cannot do this without manually upgrading
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3081[20:33:40] <greycat> Obviously the answer is "install stretch" :)
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3083[20:34:02] <izaoeuoisdf> can I add strech packages list temporarily
3084[20:34:12] <greycat> Ask #ubuntu. I would bet "no".
3085[20:34:18] <annadane> !frankenubuntu
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3087[20:34:21] * annadane shrug
3088[20:34:31] <greycat> I was thinking "Frankenbuntu" which is almost the same word.
3089[20:34:49] <Tenkawa> you can get your system in trouble very quickly
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3091[20:35:10] <izaoeuoisdf> is there an apt-get or dkpg command that lists all the files installed by a specific package?
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3094[20:35:52] <greycat> yes, dpkg -L pkgname
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3097[20:37:07] <phogg> I normally use dlocate instead
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3102[20:38:51] <izaoeuoisdf> thanks
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3104[20:39:17] <izaoeuoisdf> I see mainly 3 files: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 , libsqlite3.a, libsqlite3.la
3105[20:39:24] <izaoeuoisdf> what are .a and .la usually?
3106[20:39:41] <greycat> .a is a static library, and .la is a libtool thing
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3108[20:39:52] <greycat> those would be from the -dev package
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3111[20:40:09] <izaoeuoisdf> ohh right
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3113[20:40:31] <izaoeuoisdf> which file does Python reuse? the .so, the .a or the .la ?
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3117[20:41:13] <greycat> Whatever the reason behind this question is, I am assuming you are going to break your ubuntu.
3118[20:41:30] <greycat> So, please do it in #ubuntu. Maybe they can talk you out of it.
3119[20:41:52] <izaoeuoisdf> greycat: what could "break" by just replacing an old .so by a newer one?
3120[20:42:02] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: a lot!
3121[20:42:08] <izaoeuoisdf> assuming it's the same platform amd64
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3123[20:42:12] <izaoeuoisdf> Tenkawa: such as what?
3124[20:42:13] <greycat> Everything that uses this library.
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3127[20:42:29] <Tenkawa> izaoeuoisdf: functions are defined in those libraries
3128[20:42:33] <izaoeuoisdf> if this library is retrocompatible, why would it break?
3129[20:42:40] <izaoeuoisdf> (and it is)
3130[20:43:14] <greycat> You're not running Debian, so it's off topic here, and if you WERE running Debian, our advice would be "use jessie-backports or stretch"
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3132[20:43:45] <izaoeuoisdf> Actually I'm currectly running my other computer with Debian, to take the newer .so to copy it to the other computer ;)
3133[20:44:08] <izaoeuoisdf> But I understand what you say
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3141[20:47:51] <izaoeuoisdf> greycat: just a last thing: on my Debian I see I have .a, .la, .so.0.8.6, and .so.0 and .so... The three last ones are link to each other. What is this naming .0.8.6? (it's a Debian 8, debian-8.0-x86_64-minimal)
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3143[20:48:14] <izaoeuoisdf> I mean: .so.0.8.6 and .so.0
3144[20:48:20] <greycat> You don't even know how shared libraries work and you want to fuck around with your system's shared libraries.
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3146[20:48:33] <greycat> Do not proceed with this plan.
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3150[20:49:21] <izaoeuoisdf> I'll just test and restore the old one then
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3152[20:49:59] <izaoeuoisdf> I know about shared libraries (I program mainly on Win), but not about the *naming* system, it's something different
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3160[20:53:18] <izaoeuoisdf> greycat: it works
3161[20:53:20] <izaoeuoisdf> problem solved.
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3172[20:56:59] <doublehp> how do install OpenOffice on a recent debian ? I don't find the package; has it been renamed like Firefox/IceDove/Nightly ?
3173[20:57:14] <greycat> it's called libreoffice now
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3175[20:57:30] <greycat> ,v libreoffice
3176[20:57:31] <judd> Package: libreoffice on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u10; wheezy-backports: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u7~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u9; jessie-proposed-updates: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u10; jessie-security: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u10; jessie-backports: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u2~bpo8+1; stretch-security: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u2; stretch: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u3; stretch-backports:
3177[20:57:32] <judd> 1:6.0.2-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1:6.0.2-1+b1; sid: 1:6.0.3-1
3178[20:57:59] <doublehp> greycat: thanks
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3213[21:14:33] <conjunctivitis> i have a fresh install of avlinux based on debian stretch
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3215[21:15:14] <conjunctivitis> i am trying to get my openvpn running using nm-applet (have installed openvpn network-manager-openvpn and network-manager-openvpn-gnome
3216[21:15:15] <greycat> !avlinux
3217[21:15:16] <dpkg> AV Linux (formerly A/V Linux) is a 32-bit Live DVD distribution based on Debian <squeeze> (as of version 6). It specializes in multimedia content creation using realtime-patched kernels. AV Linux is not supported in #debian. Support forum: replaced-url
3218[21:15:49] <conjunctivitis> greycat, those guys don't know much about networkingand can't seem to help
3219[21:15:57] <spacegoat> Good evening, this is probably a dumb question but I feel like I've been smashing my head against a brick wall here. I've been trying to disable xorg/gdm3 in order to install an nvidia driver. However I'm unable to disable gdm3 using systemctl and attempting to boot in to recovery mode so that gdm3 doesn't start doesn't seem to work.
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3221[21:16:08] <spacegoat> Am I being dumb here? I feel like I'm missing the obvious.
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3224[21:17:06] <greycat> spacegoat: try booting with the additional GRUB kernel parameter systemd.unit=multi-user.target
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3227[21:17:24] <greycat> that should suppress *dm startup for this one boot only
3228[21:17:29] <conjunctivitis> i can establish an openvpn connection via nm-applet or via command line, but nm-applet connection gives me no internet access (i can ping the vpn server but can't ping 8.8.8.8)
3229[21:17:41] <conjunctivitis> command line launch functions normally
3230[21:17:46] <spacegoat> So I hit e on grub and add ' systemd.unit=multi-user.target ' to the end of one of the lines?
3231[21:17:56] <greycat> yes
3232[21:18:12] <spacegoat> Which line do I add it on the end to?
3233[21:18:19] <greycat> The one that you would normally boot.
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3235[21:19:20] <spacegoat> Cheers, will give that a try!
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3242[21:21:11] <jhutchins_wk> spacegoat: WHy can't you service shutdown gdm3?
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3244[21:21:58] <greycat> In a lot of cases, a *dm starting up *at all* before the drivers & firmware are configured can make the system unusable. May not be able to do Ctrl-Alt-F2.
3245[21:22:15] <greycat> Or, maybe he didn't even try. Who knows.
3246[21:22:41] <greycat> This is one of the reasons I *never* install a GUI from the installer.
3247[21:22:43] <jhutchins_wk> I think the nvidia installer checks to see if X is running.
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3250[21:23:55] <greycat> Install base system / Standard / SSH server, boot, add firmware, install xorg / fvwm / xterm, try 'startx', see if that works...
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3253[21:24:21] <annadane> meh
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3256[21:25:05] <greycat> You prefer the "install KDE, boot, wait for failure" method? :)
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3259[21:25:40] <annadane> i haven't ever had a failure from DE installation from installer but if it does happen i'll do it the other way
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3261[21:26:03] <annadane> though yes it takes exactly the same amount of time so you may as well
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3268[21:29:23] <annadane> (reason i haven't done it that way is just through being unaware it can happen, not laziness, i think i'll do it that way now)
3269[21:29:37] <michael2> greycat: are the packages which provide the "base" and "standard" systems named as such - or are they a tasksel task?
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3271[21:30:11] <greycat> There's a "Priority: Standard" which I think is what the installer uses for that.
3272[21:30:24] <annadane> i know a lot of people like fvwm, only tried it once very briefly
3273[21:30:45] <greycat> I don't know if the post-installer tasksel even HAS this option. And running tasksel to try to find out is dangerous. :( :( :(
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3275[21:32:11] <Spacegoat> I just want to say thanks to the guy who helped me before, it worked!
3276[21:32:23] <annadane> !next
3277[21:32:23] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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3280[21:34:00] <michael2> greycat: im thinking of the case of installing via the netinstaller overwifi, where the the netinstaller actually doen't/cant install packages so you have to manually specify the packages. how would you specify everything in the "priority: standard" category..
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3282[21:34:59] <greycat> ... huh? I have no idea what you're asking. The tasksel at the end of the installer has Standard as a category, and it is pre-checked.
3283[21:35:18] <greycat> Perhaps you want
3284[21:35:22] <greycat> !firmware images
3285[21:35:23] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See replaced-url
3286[21:36:02] <michael2> greycat: yes, thats how im installing. non-free net installer
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3333[22:01:10] <jhutchins_wk> tasksel desktop
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3341[22:11:22] <rhizome> grr
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3353[22:17:54] <OS-37692> Hi All. I am new over here. This is my third day. I am working on the BoF module.
3354[22:18:16] <Pidgeotto> nice
3355[22:18:22] <OS-37692> I am exploring the fuzzing python script. However the harcoded IP is not pingable
3356[22:19:11] <abrotman> teh BoF module ?
3357[22:19:21] <OS-37692> is this just an IP example - shall I scan to find a server running the Ability-Server?
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3359[22:19:36] <OS-37692> yes 6.1
3360[22:19:39] <abrotman> OS-37692: for which distro?
3361[22:20:12] <OS-37692> Ability Server–v2.3.4
3362[22:20:22] <abrotman> This is #debian ?
3363[22:20:27] <OS-37692> yes
3364[22:20:37] <abrotman> How is that related?
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3366[22:21:01] <OS-37692> Linux kali 4.12.0-kali2-686 #1 SMP Debian 4.12.12-2kali1 (2017-09-13) i686 GNU/Linux
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3368[22:21:11] <abrotman> right, this is #debian, we support Debian
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3370[22:21:23] <abrotman> dpkg: tell OS-37692 about kali
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3372[22:21:26] <abrotman> good luck
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3374[22:21:32] <mutante> "but it says Debian in uname -a"
3375[22:21:46] <abrotman> I can't help it people do weird things
3376[22:21:55] <mutante> fair
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3378[22:23:28] <frazr> Hi there folks, quick question is there any risk of locking myself out of ssh while altering /etc/resolv.conf ?
3379[22:23:37] <frazr> like adding a new primary nameserver on top of 3 existing :D
3380[22:23:39] <frazr> scared
3381[22:23:54] <frazr> it shouldn't be right since its only the machines dns lookuips
3382[22:23:57] <mutante> not really, if you remember your own IP address
3383[22:24:16] <frazr> :P
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3394[22:29:47] <laidback_01> anyone know much about running the newish pgadmin4 in Debian 9.4 via apt as provided from pgadmin.org ? I'm not at all a python person, and I'm getting permissions errors trying to add a server to use...
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3396[22:30:21] <Tenkawa> got a pastebin with the errors?
3397[22:31:10] <Tenkawa> not sure if its supported since its third party though
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3399[22:31:39] <Tenkawa> (not in channel that is)
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3407[22:34:59] <laidback_01> yeah, I'm getting rid of it
3408[22:35:04] <laidback_01> it's just a pile of crap
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3410[22:35:32] <laidback_01> crashed my windows 2012 server machine ... hard. twice. now it's crashing X11 on my linux machines.
3411[22:35:41] <Tenkawa> ouch
3412[22:35:50] <laidback_01> switching to something else. I love my postgresql databases
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3414[22:36:01] <nix64bit> The following packages have been kept back:
3415[22:36:01] <nix64bit> debhelper git-man linux-image-amd64
3416[22:36:07] <laidback_01> and when I could use pgadmin4, it's really rather cool.
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3418[22:36:16] <Tenkawa> that seems like one messed up tool if thats causing it
3419[22:36:18] <laidback_01> but... I'd rather have it look like pgadmin3 and be stable.
3420[22:36:19] <nix64bit> not sure whats happening here?
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3424[22:36:52] <nix64bit> when i run sudo apt upgrade
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3427[22:36:54] <Tenkawa> nix64bit: you need to pastebin the "whole" context
3428[22:37:13] <laidback_01> probably just how I'm using it, I don't see a lot of other people complaining, it's just of course, I need it now... and it's not goign to work. so alternatives, here I come, lol
3429[22:37:48] <Tenkawa> something is preventing those from being from being updated like an apt hold or an apt-get update not being run first
3430[22:37:57] <nix64bit> laidback_01: basically all i see
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3433[22:38:16] <Tenkawa> laidback_01: you tried talking to the #postgresql channel?
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3435[22:38:36] <nix64bit> must i run it with a v switch?
3436[22:38:37] <laidback_01> I was in the pgadmin channel, but there's only 15 or so ppl there, they are all idle/offline.
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3440[22:39:20] <laidback_01> it's OK, there's plenty of competition. I was just hoping to get it working... no go.
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3442[22:39:28] <Tenkawa> nix64bit: did you run apt-get update first?
3443[22:39:32] <nix64bit> yes
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3445[22:39:53] <nix64bit> no problems
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3447[22:40:08] <Tenkawa> ohhh
3448[22:40:11] <nix64bit> 5 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
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3450[22:40:24] <Tenkawa> those just arent going to be upgraded until dist-upgrade
3451[22:40:28] <Tenkawa> dont run it yet though
3452[22:40:33] <Tenkawa> do this
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3454[22:40:45] <Tenkawa> apt-get --dry-run dist-upgrade
3455[22:40:58] <Tenkawa> does that show all going to be installed?
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3457[22:41:13] <nix64bit> i get a list of 5 yes
3458[22:41:23] <Tenkawa> did you make any changes to sources.lst?
3459[22:41:35] <nix64bit> not recently
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3461[22:42:07] <nix64bit> but i am on testing
3462[22:42:25] <Tenkawa> ok then you can run upgrade first... reboot then run dist-upgrade... although I'd prefer if someone else in channel confirm this
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3464[22:42:37] <Tenkawa> I run more in dev mode
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3466[22:43:49] <nix64bit> I will try that, will hope for the best
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3468[22:43:56] <Tenkawa> good luck
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3470[22:44:01] <nix64bit> tx
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3472[22:44:43] <Tenkawa> you'll need another reboot after the dist-upgrade for the new kernel too btw
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3474[22:45:19] <nix64bit> anyway looks promising so far
3475[22:45:29] <nix64bit> will do thanks
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3481[22:47:09] <p0358> What's going on with packages.debian.org?
3482[22:47:16] <Tenkawa> eh/
3483[22:47:17] <Tenkawa> ?
3484[22:47:26] <p0358> the page is not loading
3485[22:47:57] <Tenkawa> works here
3486[22:48:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> hi peeps
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3488[22:48:57] <Eryn_1983_FL> so i got an issue with kpropd listening on on ipv4
3489[22:49:00] <Tenkawa> searched for a package came up fine too
3490[22:49:01] <Eryn_1983_FL> er ipv6
3491[22:49:02] <Eryn_1983_FL> kpropd 29806 root 3u IPv6 37817342 0t0 TCP *:krb-prop (LISTEN)
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3493[22:49:20] <Eryn_1983_FL> how can i get it to stop doing that?
3494[22:49:28] <Dagger> that... shouldn't be an issue. things are supposed to be listening on v6
3495[22:49:29] <Eryn_1983_FL> i do not need ipv6 at all
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3497[22:49:45] <Eryn_1983_FL> but thats all its listening to
3498[22:49:53] <Eryn_1983_FL> i see apache is listening to both..
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3500[22:50:04] <Dagger> that's fine. v6 sockets listening on :: can accept v4 connections, provided that net.ipv6.bindv6only is left at its default value of 0
3501[22:50:18] <p0358> I get connection refused on https port
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3503[22:50:23] <p0358> Tenkawa: can you tell me what IP does it resolve for you to?
3504[22:50:30] <p0358> the domain
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3506[22:50:44] <Tenkawa> just a sec
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3510[22:51:39] <Eryn_1983_FL> where is net.ipv6.bindv6only
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3512[22:51:59] <Dagger> run `sysctl net.ipv6.bindv6only`
3513[22:52:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> it is 9
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3515[22:52:23] <Eryn_1983_FL> er 0
3516[22:52:34] <Tenkawa> p0358: 128.31.0.51 5.153.231.3 2001:41c8:1000:21::21:3
3517[22:52:38] <Tenkawa> those 3
3518[22:52:49] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok,
3519[22:52:55] <Tenkawa> 2 ipv4 and 1 ipv6
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3521[22:54:02] <nix64bit> Tenkawa: thanks i rebooted and alls well, i removed kicad which wasnt upgrading correctly will just reinstall it it if i need it later
3522[22:54:13] <Tenkawa> cool
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3524[22:54:25] <Tenkawa> nix64bit: glad it worked
3525[22:55:20] <nix64bit> :)
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3529[22:56:06] <p0358> Hmm, seems it resolves to the same for me, but the 5. IP is not responding at all, and the 128. responds only on http port, I have no way to check IPv6
3530[22:56:27] <p0358> other internet pages are working correctly though, so not sure where the issue might be at
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3559[23:08:27] <Eryn_1983_FL> can somebody help me with kerberos?
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3565[23:10:16] <Eryn_1983_FL> replaced-url
3566[23:10:20] <Eryn_1983_FL> error is at the bottom
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3583[23:25:15] <TBC_Ly0n> Hi everyone... Is there a solution to mitigate DirtyCOW on a debian Lenny / Squeeze ? (for compatibility reason, I can upgrade)
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3587[23:26:28] <lebster> I installed debian 9.4 non free but i just get a blank screen with a non blinking underscore on the top left when trying to boot up. Can someone point me in the right direction, im not sure what this xorg file is telling me. Xorg.0.log - replaced-url
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3589[23:27:57] <awal1> blinking underscore when trying to boot then xorg log?
3590[23:28:08] <lebster> it does not blink
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3592[23:28:31] <lebster> i went into recover mode to get xorg log
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3595[23:29:33] <lebster> when i google about it, most threads people ask for that log file
3596[23:29:35] <awal1> xorg is for log Xorg stuff
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3599[23:29:59] <awal1> log what happens after login to x window system/your DE/WM
3600[23:30:12] <awal1> for boot , check dmesg / journal
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3611[23:33:44] <laidback_01> trying out ValentinaStudio after pgadmin4 failed so miserably for me. first 30 minutes of trial, so far so good. it's actually quite nice. Not as many doo-dads as pgadmin4, but i appreciate the simplicity. anyway, if others have major issues with pgadmin4 on debian, let them know Valentina might be a suitable choice... won't work for everyone, but for some I'm sure!
3612[23:33:44] <lebster> @awal1 dmesg - replaced-url
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3663[23:58:11] <TBC_Ly0n> laidback_01: I mainly use DBeaver...
3664[23:59:00] <laidback_01> heh, thanks! I didn't even know it was around anymore.
3665[23:59:29] <TBC_Ly0n> laidback_01: It's updated regularly.
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