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1[00:00:56] <wewlad> I remember there was some shorter/easier
way than 'dpkg -l | grep something', what was it?
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3[00:01:24] <reisio> there are so many
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10[00:03:10] <reisio> dpkg-query --show foo
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11[00:03:40] <wewlad> eh, will never remember that, since
it's not 'dpkg -query …'
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12[00:03:43] <wewlad> :(
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20[00:05:05] <wewlad> is 'apt-get update' the same as
'apt update'?
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22[00:05:32] <markybob> wewlad: yes
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26[00:07:03] <reisio> get thee to an aliasery
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27[00:07:21] <wewlad> I do alias things
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29[00:07:33] <wewlad> but I don't know how to explore
system aliases
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36[00:10:20] <wewlad> what if 1. I enable backports 2. I
install something from backports 3. I disable backports 4. an update
for that something comes out - will apt-get upgrade pull the update
for that something installed from backports?
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37[00:10:33] <jordanm> no
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40[00:11:31] <wewlad> that's bad; then should I worry that
after enabling backports that some of my stable utils will get
updated to something from backports when I apt-get upgrade?
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41[00:12:09] <markybob> no
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43[00:12:14] <markybob> that's not how backports work
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44[00:12:18] <wewlad> that's good
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45[00:12:26] <mimi89999_phone> How can I list packages
installed from external repos (other than the main repo)?
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47[00:12:47] <wewlad> I remember there was something about
setting 'weights' (or priority) for repos in sources.list,
but I never bothered to change them
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48[00:12:59] <LtL> wewlad: backports require a slight
difference in package retrieval syntax
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52[00:13:56] <LtL> wewlad: and a sources.list mod, which you
probably know
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55[00:14:31] <wewlad> LtL: yeah, I know about the mod, but what
about the difference?
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57[00:14:50] <markybob> wewlad: you have to specify -t
jessie-backports with apt-get
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59[00:15:28] <wewlad> sunova... how do I know where did I just
install wine-development from?
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61[00:15:44] <loaps> Install and configuration Debian
replaced-url
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63[00:16:28] <wewlad> that page never loads
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66[00:16:48] <loaps> which browser?
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67[00:16:52] <wewlad> firefox
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68[00:16:57] <wewlad> also, why not utoob?
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69[00:17:05] <loaps> try chrome or safari
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70[00:17:08] <wewlad> nothx
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72[00:17:25] <loaps> ok :)
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74[00:18:13] <wewlad> that page is infected
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75[00:18:23] <loaps> what lol
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76[00:18:42] <loaps> this is just my video
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78[00:18:44] <wewlad> I'm telling you, just take a look
what it hooks up
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80[00:18:45] <markybob> firefox wasn't even included in
Pwn2Own 2016 because it was "too easy to hack" ...so
there's that
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81[00:19:03] <wewlad> no :(
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83[00:19:13] <jmcnaught> wewlad: use "apt-cache policy
<pacakge>" to see which version is installed, what the
candidates are
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84[00:19:23] <wewlad> thx jmcnaught
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85[00:19:47] <wewlad> jmcnaught: does j stand for
'jimmy' in your nickname?
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86[00:19:53] <reisio> they're all too easy to hack
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90[00:21:01] <teraflops> markybob: hehe
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92[00:21:11] <wewlad> jmcnaught: I don't quite get the
output
replaced-url
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93[00:21:46] <wewlad> oh, I guess I installed a version from
jessie/main
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99[00:23:57] <wewlad> I've just did 'apt-get remove
wine-development', now I tried to install it from backports and
I end up with an error saying that some packages have unmet
dependencies and that debian was unable to correct problems and I
have held broken packages
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100[00:24:09] <wewlad> whatdoido.jpg
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101[00:24:34] <polyphagia> which packages wewlad
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103[00:24:47] <polyphagia> what's apt-get install -f's
solution?
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105[00:25:55] <wewlad> polyphagia: libglib2.0-0:i386 (>=
2.12.0), libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.0.0),
libgstreamer1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.4.0) + it recommends fonts-wine:i386
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106[00:26:17] <wewlad> but there's no
fonts-wine-development/jessie-backports :(
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108[00:27:10] <wewlad> polyphagia:
replaced-url
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109[00:27:24] <wewlad> should I autoremove them?
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111[00:27:45] <jmcnaught> wewlad: which part don't you
understand? The Candidate version is the one that would be installed
by default. The version table shows the versions available
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113[00:28:47] <wewlad> jmcnaught: thx, got it after all
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115[00:30:51] <wewlad> man for apt-get is unreadable
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118[00:31:56] <LtL> wewlad: man apt then
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122[00:34:14] <wewlad> apt -f: command line option 'f'
[from -f] is not known.
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123[00:34:14] <apt> wewlad: what are you talking about?
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124[00:34:42] <wewlad> apt: sir, could you fix dependencies for
me?
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126[00:36:06] <jmcnaught> wewlad: apt is a bot
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127[00:36:35] <cybearg> Just installed Debian (first time user).
I want the computer to be a headless Linux client with a static IP.
I've correctly specified /etc/network/interfaces, but upon
reboot, the computer still gets assigned a dynamic IP. If I run
"sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" THEN I get the
correct static IP, but adding the line into /etc/rc.local . If I
call rc.local, it works just fine. Permissions are correct.
What's wrong? PB:
replaced-url
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129[00:37:16] <wewlad> jmcnaught: I know, it's just
everyone else keeps silent and I don't know how to pass by the
error about unmet dependencies, the '-f' option
didn't clear anything out for me
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131[00:37:36] <cybearg> ... "after adding the line into
/etc/rc.local, rc.local must not get run on boot"
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133[00:38:36] <LtL> wewlad: apt-get -f install can sometimes fix
broken dependancies
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134[00:38:51] <RoyK> - The best way to get an answer on the
Internet is not to as a question, but deliberately post an incorrect
answer. People are quicker to correct you than to answer an inquiry.
It's called Godwin's law.
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135[00:39:27] <jmcnaught> wewlad: did you make a paste with the
command used and the complete output?
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136[00:40:15] <RoyK> cybearg: did you install it with a GUI?
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137[00:40:24] <cmtptr> RoyK, you almost got me with that
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138[00:40:35] <wewlad> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
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140[00:40:43] <cybearg> RoyK: Yes, but I've since set it to
boot to console.
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142[00:41:06] <RoyK> perhaps networkmanager is messing things up
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143[00:41:27] <cybearg> RoyK: NetworkManager is not installed.
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144[00:41:45] <RoyK> pastebin /etc/network/interfaces, please
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145[00:41:59] <cybearg> RoyK:
replaced-url
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147[00:42:52] <RoyK> only wireless?
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150[00:43:27] <cybearg> RoyK: Yes. I commented out the eth0 in
case it was interfering somehow (throwing everything at the wall to
hope something stuck)
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151[00:43:33] <teraflops> cybearg: do you use any encryption
with the wireless interface?
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152[00:43:40] <cybearg> teraflops: No
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153[00:43:42] <teraflops> ah
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156[00:44:12] <RoyK> cybearg: where did you set SSID etc?
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157[00:44:35] <teraflops> cybearg: try adding allow-hotplug
wlan0
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158[00:45:01] <cybearg> RoyK: I did that in the GUI before
switching to boot to console.
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159[00:45:20] <cybearg> teraflops: I have tried that in the past
and I didn't see it make a difference, but I will try again.
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160[00:45:25] <teraflops> cybearg: wat
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161[00:45:28] <RoyK> teraflops: really, auto is better
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163[00:45:56] <teraflops> RoyK: you can use both at the same
time
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164[00:46:18] <teraflops> cybearg: I smell you are still using
networkmanager
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165[00:46:30] <RoyK> really shouldn't matter
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166[00:46:31] <cybearg> teraflops: Is there a way to confirm
it's running?
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167[00:46:35] <teraflops> yes
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169[00:46:38] <wewlad> help
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170[00:46:41] <RoyK> cybearg: dpkg -l | grep -i network.*man
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171[00:46:56] <teraflops> nope
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172[00:47:02] <teraflops> systemctl status
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174[00:48:10] <teraflops> it has tab completion
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176[00:49:02] <jmcnaught> wewlad: use "apt-get -t
jessie-backports wine-development", the way you're doing
it only selects the backports versions for those two specific
packages, not the dependencies they need from backports
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178[00:49:20] <cybearg> teraflops: systemctl status gives me
"Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -l"
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179[00:49:34] <cybearg> RoyK: Your command got me several
listings, so maybe it is installed and I didn't realize it.
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180[00:49:46] <teraflops> cybearg: ^ I dont have a debian
machine at hand running NM, so `systemctl status NetworkManager`
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182[00:50:08] <cybearg> teraflops: Same result
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183[00:50:13] <teraflops> idk if it's _NetworkManager_
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184[00:50:33] <cybearg> I'm new, so I don't know,
either.
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186[00:51:03] <wewlad> jmcnaught: thanks! it worked
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187[00:51:04] <teraflops> cybearg: well it's impossible
youre connected to your wireless ap with that interfaces file
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190[00:51:17] <teraflops> since it does not especify any ap to
associate with
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193[00:51:42] <RoyK> systemctl | grep -i net.*man
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194[00:51:43] <teraflops> so my guess is that youre running
other daemon for managing the network
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195[00:51:46] <RoyK> should work
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196[00:52:51] <RoyK> cybearg: don't install gui things on a
server - it just messes things up
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198[00:53:37] <cybearg> RoyK: I get an error running that
command: "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error
-1"
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199[00:54:02] <cybearg> I'm still very new to Linux, so the
GUI was more as a back-up in case I found the console too
frustrating to rely entirely on.
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200[00:54:08] <RoyK> then something is messed up badly
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201[00:54:22] <RoyK> is this x86/x64?
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205[00:54:40] <markybob> cybearg: you could just use nmtui since
your interfaces is fucked anyway
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206[00:54:53] <cybearg> RoyK: Yes. I have an old Intel Core2 Duo
Dell that I hesitated to throw out, thinking it could be a low-power
Plex media server.
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208[00:55:15] <teraflops> cybearg: is that jessie? also ps xa |
grep -i network
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209[00:55:51] <cybearg> teraflops: I got the latest version of
jessie yesterday, yes. lxde
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210[00:55:56] <RoyK> teraflops: it's probably jessie if
systemd is involved :P
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211[00:56:17] <RoyK> cybearg: lxcd on a server?
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212[00:56:26] <cybearg> teraflop: I got 2820 pts/2 S+ 0:00 grep
-i network
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213[00:56:35] <cybearg> RoyK: Don't assume I know what
I'm doing. :)
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214[00:57:14] <RoyK> cybearg: if you don't have anything
there, just reinstall without any desktop things, just ssh and base
stuff
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218[00:57:34] <RoyK> cybearg: start from scratch - less hassle
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219[00:57:55] <jmcnaught> cybearg: i looked at your interfaces
paste, is it also not indented on your system?
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220[00:58:16] <RoyK> the wifi setup will be a bit harder,
editing config files etc, but you'll learn
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221[00:58:18] <cybearg> RoyK: Alright, I'll give that a
try.
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223[00:58:29] <cybearg> jmcnaught: No indentation. I didn't
know it made a difference.
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224[00:58:30] <teraflops> cybearg: reinstalling why?
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226[00:58:36] <jmcnaught> cybearg: instead of reinstalling you
could look at
replaced-url
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227[00:58:48] <cybearg> teraflops: I guess to clear out whatever
thing I did wrong?
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228[00:59:09] <RoyK> jmcnaught: really, he should reinstall the
box as a server - it's setup as a workstation now
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229[00:59:11] <teraflops> cybearg: just systemctl stop net^tab
as root
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230[00:59:14] <jmcnaught> cybearg: if networkmanager was
involved, it won't interfere with interfaces defined in
/etc/network/interfaces by default on jessie (unless you changed
that)
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231[00:59:22] <teraflops> or Net^
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234[00:59:39] <RoyK> jmcnaught: he'll learn more by
reinstalling it as a server
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235[00:59:47] <cybearg> jmcnaught: I'm pretty sure I
already followed those instructions.
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236[01:00:04] <jmcnaught> RoyK: *shrug* he could also just
remove the GUI related packages
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237[01:00:10] <teraflops> RoyK: please stop with the reinstall
thingy.
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238[01:00:17] <cybearg> teraflops: Same error about failing to
get D-Bus connection
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239[01:00:18] <RoyK> nah
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240[01:00:19] <jmcnaught> cybearg: take another look then, pay
attention to how things are indented
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241[01:00:46] <teraflops> cybearg: where are you? tty? xorg?
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243[01:01:04] <RoyK> teraflops: the thing is, if you're new
to linux, and you make a mess, it's easier to learn things by
starting from scrach
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244[01:01:09] <cybearg> jmcnaught: I got a couple Raspberry Pis,
and neither of them use indentation in their /etc/network/interfaces
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245[01:01:25] <cybearg> jmcnaught: That's running Raspbian,
by the way.
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246[01:01:28] <RoyK> teraflops: debugging shite you don't
know will take hours and may make you beleive linux sucks
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247[01:01:39] <cybearg> teraflops: I don't understand that
question, sorry
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248[01:01:44] <jmcnaught> cybearg: is this device running
raspbian? if so you're in the wrong channel
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249[01:01:49] <RoyK> cybearg: indentation doesn't matter
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250[01:01:56] <cybearg> jmcnaught: No it's not, but
they're both Debian, no?
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251[01:02:04] <teraflops> cybearg: raspbian? this is for debian
;)
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252[01:02:04] <RoyK> it just makes it look neat
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253[01:02:29] <cybearg> teraflops: I know. I'm just
pointing out that I don't see why indentation would matter in
one fork of Debian but not another.
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254[01:02:38] <RoyK> teraflops: indentation in the interfaces
file doesn't matter in debian either - raspbian is just a
debian fork
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255[01:03:15] <teraflops> cybearg: I have several arm thingies
running real debian, i never get dbus nonsense doing systemctl in
tty or vt
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259[01:03:38] <teraflops> hey I said nothing about indentation
:P
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260[01:03:41] <teraflops> lel
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265[01:05:19] <jmcnaught> ahhh.. i see stanzas don't have
to be indented
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266[01:05:28] <RoyK> cybearg: btw, there's a jessie fork
for the pi
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270[01:05:49] <RoyK> I'm using that on a number of units
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272[01:06:05] <cybearg> RoyK: Yeah, I know. I'll be
installing that on my Pis soon. One's got something odd going
on with its networking, too.
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273[01:06:22] <cybearg> Thanks for the input, everyone. For now,
I'll just go with a clean reinstall and start from scratch.
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274[01:06:35] <markybob> the main issue is what the fuck is
wrong with your systemctl...i've never seen that before
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275[01:06:55] <cybearg> markybob: I couldn't speculate.
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280[01:07:50] <cybearg> It's an unfortunate waste of 8
hours or so trying to get it to work so far, though.
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283[01:09:16] <devster31> so I have USERGROUPS enabled in login
defs, the default umask is 022 which gets relaxed to 002, however
when I sudo -i the umask for root is still 022, why is that?
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284[01:09:20] <devster31> I also added the relevant session
optional pam_umask.so line to the /etc/pam.d/common-session
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285[01:09:25] <RoyK> cybearg: and smartguys like teraflops will
help you solve your problem in only 16 more hours >:)
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287[01:10:09] <teraflops> RoyK: nah it's about that it can
be a respbian thing we are not aware of
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288[01:10:37] <cybearg> teraflops: It's not a Raspbian
thing. I'm installing Debian on this old Dell.
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289[01:10:38] <RoyK> teraflops: no, it's not
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290[01:10:50] <teraflops> ah :S
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291[01:11:19] <cybearg> teraflops: But my only prior experience
was with Raspbian, which is what inclined me toward using Debian.
Sorry for the confusion.
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292[01:11:21] <teraflops> cybearg: sorry then i totally
misunderstood
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293[01:12:07] <teraflops> cybearg: so, from where are you runing
systemctl tty (no Xorg) or from the desktop environment via
terminal?
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295[01:12:51] <cybearg> teraflops: I was running it via an SSH
connection. I'm not sure where that would fall.
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297[01:12:55] <RoyK> teraflops: if you setup a system with
desktop things, a lot is handled differently
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298[01:13:09] <teraflops> cybearg: and _how_ sis you set the
computer to _headless mode_
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299[01:13:16] <teraflops> RoyK: not really
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300[01:13:17] <RoyK> cybearg: just start from scratch -
it's not hard
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301[01:13:18] <jmcnaught> cybearg: do you have libpam-systemd
installed?
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302[01:13:25] <teraflops> did*
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303[01:13:28] <cybearg> RoyK: I'm already working on it
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304[01:13:45] <cybearg> jmcnaught: I'll get back to you on
that kind of stuff. I'm reinstalling for now.
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306[01:14:05] <tytan> hello, everyone. when will kde plasma 5 be
avaolable for debian users?
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308[01:14:14] <RoyK> teraflops: as I said, if you start out with
linux with little knowledge, and you have to work your way back to
fix things, it just make things harder
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309[01:14:16] <jmcnaught> cybearg: fair enough. i reinstalled a
few times when i got started too, but there's also value in
learning how to solve problems without having to reinstall
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310[01:14:19] <cybearg> teraflops: Nothing to set up, really. I
just use PuTTY to connect via SSH. It just worked, as long as the IP
doesn't change on me.
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312[01:14:37] <teraflops> cybearg: so " cybearg ⎸ RoyK: I
did that in the GUI before switching to boot to console. "
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314[01:14:53] <teraflops> you did nothing right?
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315[01:15:04] <cybearg> cybearg: Yes, I did a some stuff
directly, but that command you mentioned I ran via SSH.
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316[01:15:19] <jmcnaught> tytan: in the next release. new stuff
doesn't generally gets added to a Debian Stable release,
"stable" means "no surprises" in this context
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317[01:15:43] <cybearg> teraflops: Oh, I see what you mean now.
I thought you were asking how I set up SSH.
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318[01:15:44] <tytan> jmcnaught: ok, thank you very much
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319[01:15:52] <RoyK>
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320[01:15:58] <markybob> tytan: freeze is 2017-02-05 to give you
an idea
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321[01:16:15] <tytan> markybob: oh, damn
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322[01:16:17] <teraflops> cybearg: in other words for the sake
of clarity, how did you set the computer to _boot to console_
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323[01:16:22] <teraflops> cybearg: heh
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324[01:16:57] <teraflops> RoyK: heh
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325[01:16:58] <cybearg> teraflops: I don't recall exactly,
but it involved modifying the Grub config and that was about it.
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326[01:17:04] <jmcnaught> tytan: it's great because your
computer keeps working the same say every day so you can do stuff
besides fix/tweak your computer
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329[01:17:38] <tytan> I agree on that
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330[01:17:43] <teraflops> cybearg: grub? why?
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331[01:18:00] <cybearg> teraflops: Because that's what
Google said to do.
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334[01:18:13] <teraflops> cybearg: im stunned
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336[01:18:45] <tytan> have a good night everyone
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337[01:18:50] <teraflops> tytan: gn
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339[01:18:56] <cybearg> gn
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340[01:19:00] <jmcnaught> cybearg: you should consider learning
Debian with these resources:
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342[01:19:12] <teraflops> jmcnaught: amen
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343[01:19:44] <teraflops> cybearg: at this point (the grub
affaire) im not sure if I can help
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344[01:20:23] <cybearg> teraflops: I'm reinstalling,
anyway, so don't worry about it for now.
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346[01:20:32] <teraflops> cybearg: can you un-do whatever you
did and boot to the graphical target again, i believe is related to
your issue
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348[01:20:43] <bipul> I don't know where i am doing mistake
with my debian/rules
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349[01:20:59] <teraflops> cybearg: if you want a headless server
go eith the netinstall and install barebones
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350[01:21:09] <teraflops> with*
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352[01:21:58] <teraflops> just base system no DE at all
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353[01:22:06] <cybearg> teraflops: I was just going to install
Debian standard via USB.
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354[01:22:24] <jmcnaught> bipul: seems like it's
complaining about tabs vs spaces in line 3 of that file.
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356[01:22:47] <teraflops> ok, also if you do not want to boot to
desktop environmemt just disable the DM ...
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359[01:23:38] <teraflops> cybearg: do not mess with grub random
params to boot to a nightmare
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360[01:23:51] <cybearg> teraflops: I'll keep that in mind
for the future
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362[01:23:53] <markybob> without systemctl working that might be
a problem. maybe update-rc.d -f would work
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363[01:24:50] <teraflops> cybearg: anyway if you want to do some
research just edit /etc/default/grub delete what you added an
update-grub I suppose
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364[01:25:42] <bipul> jmcnaught, yes,do you know how to make
correction? I have google it out and found this :%s/^[ ]\+/^I/
source
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365[01:26:13] <jmcnaught> bipul: maybe if you showed the file
you're having a problem with
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367[01:27:30] <maroloccio> does anybody have a stretch box on
which to run an extremely simple test? (i know.. /topic) just 2
lines of bash
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368[01:27:39] <awwal> Running xfce&openbox. Touchpad
scrolling is done with two fingers here. I dont know if it's
the default in debian too or it's my own configuration I done
under gnome settings time ago (I remember I have chosen the option
"scroll with two fingers" for touchpad) and that
configuration still saved somewhere even if gnome is completly
removed. All fine but I want to reduce the sensibility of the
touchpad when scrolling with two fingers. Any suggestion?
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379[01:39:12] <bipul> jmcnaught, sure
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381[01:39:31] <jmcnaught> awwal: have you looked at
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382[01:40:15] <awwal> my synclient settings
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383[01:40:38] <awwal> jmcnaught, sure, but dont know what to
change in that synclient settings
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384[01:40:53] <bipul> jmcnaught,
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387[01:41:41] <jmcnaught> awwal: i always disable my touchpad :)
but have you tried configuring it in a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
?
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389[01:42:30] <awwal> jmcnaught, havent tried to do something
via that file
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390[01:42:51] <awwal> I have my touchpad disabled, but strangely
scrolling still working
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391[01:43:06] <jml2> can use ~/.xsessionrc
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392[01:43:44] <jmcnaught> awwal: i think scrolling and pointing
are configured separately, but again i'm not the most familiar
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399[01:44:51] <awwal> jmcnaught, seems logical yeah
(scrolling/pointing configured separately)
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402[01:45:02] <jmcnaught> bipul: was the file like that when you
got the error? it seems like you're consistently using tabs
now. are you following the new maintainer's guide?
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406[01:46:59] <teraflops> awwal: mine with tapping and 2 finger
scrolling enabled. do not paste it blindly to your config. look at
it and create your own one.
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409[01:48:07] <teraflops>
^/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
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410[01:48:10] <bipul> jmcnaught, I am using this
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413[01:48:50] <awwal> teraflops, ok, i'll look at it that
file thanks!
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414[01:48:54] <teraflops> np
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416[01:49:28] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell bipul about nmg
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417[01:49:56] <jmcnaught> bipul: dpkg bot just sent you a link
to another guide that is quite good, i'm part-way through it
myself
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423[01:50:58] <bipul> sure thank you
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435[01:55:42] <johnfg> Is there a way to clean up /var/spool?
That's where the greatest usage is.
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437[01:57:28] <doebi> how to effectively fix such issue?
"./app: error while loading shared libraries: libfoo.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
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441[01:58:48] <teraflops> LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libfoo.so.1 /app ?
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442[01:58:59] <teraflops> ./app^
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447[02:00:29] <doebi> teraflops: lol no
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448[02:00:48] <doebi> ERROR: ld.so: object
'/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfoo.so.1' from LD_PRELOAD
cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored
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449[02:01:10] <doebi> hmm?
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450[02:01:13] <doebi> multiarch
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452[02:01:51] <teraflops> doebi: then install the proper package
that provides the lib or ./configure it so it knows the path to it?
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456[02:02:31] <doebi> teraflops: easier said than done
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457[02:03:03] <teraflops> sure :P
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466[02:05:57] <jml2> (there's also LD_LIBRARY_PATH -- can
do multiple paths with it)
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468[02:06:54] <cybearg> teraflops: I just finished reinstalling
Debian and installed the driver package needed for my crap linksys
PCI network card. What command do I run for Debian to now detect the
driver installation and show the wireless device within ifconfig?
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469[02:07:15] <doebi> sometimes i really hate linux. i know end
up reading docs about multiarch library and dependency management,
after downloading and trying to run a compiled binary.
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474[02:10:48] <jml2> doebi, not debian's fault though
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475[02:10:55] <jml2> doebi, it's your fault
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476[02:10:57] <jml2> :)
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483[02:14:50] <doebi> jml2: how is it my fault, that i expect
the proclaimed output, of install instructions, i followed
precisely, to happen?
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485[02:15:32] <jml2> doebi, it's your fault because debian
has no contract in promising to have an outside package to work
properly.. that's the fault of the administrator's
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487[02:16:13] <jml2> doebi, if you want to rant how shit debian
is, this is not the place to do it.
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491[02:16:39] <arahael> guys, this is unhelpful.
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494[02:17:58] <arahael> doebi: if you are attempting to get a
binary not designed for your OS, to work on your OS, using wine,
whatever, or even just hoping that all the syscalls and library
ABI's match up,
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498[02:18:23] <arahael> doebi: then you're going to have an
"interesting" time, with all the meanings of that word.
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505[02:19:45] <arahael> doebi: simply running the same kernel is
nearly meaningless. android runs linux, but you can't mix
binaries there. the bsd's do not run the same kernel, yet they
can sometimes run linux binaries. heck, windows can now run (Ubuntu
64-bit) binaries.
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506[02:20:01] <jrabbit> is there a conflict with some of the
gnutls libraries?
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507[02:20:18] <jml2> jrabbit, i believe for some packages there
is
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508[02:20:23] <jml2> jrabbit, i've seen this
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509[02:20:28] <jrabbit> is there a bug?
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510[02:20:32] <arahael> doebi: so, the kernel is irrelevant. the
question is: does it support your OS? if not, you will likely have
an interesting time of it.
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512[02:20:47] <jml2> jrabbit, dont think its a bug.. its the
package requirements
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514[02:20:56] <jml2> jrabbit, i think there's a few though
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517[02:21:26] <jml2> jrabbit, iirc the usage of gnutls is being
discouraged among developers
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518[02:21:38] <arahael> jml2: sorry, i felt your explaination
was rather standoffish and discouraging.
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519[02:22:12] <jml2> jrabbit, i'd place my concern with the
upstream projects in shifting away from relying on it
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521[02:23:25] <jrabbit> jml2: idk it's breaking my
production stuff :\ aptitude will solve it
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522[02:23:55] <jml2> jrabbit, may be that you have better
replacements in backports (use -t jessie-backports)
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525[02:24:44] <jrabbit> well I'm between jessie and testing
(for taskd specifically)
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526[02:25:19] <jml2> it's a bit of a problem for some
packages, they're using competing security dependencies..
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527[02:25:27] <jrabbit> ok it seems like the hogweed lbirary
used by the gpg is old
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528[02:25:58] <jrabbit> it's frustrating because this is a
popular docker image (python:2.7-slim)
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532[02:28:34] <jrabbit> ah I think the solution for me might bw
to use the official debian and use the builtin python
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533[02:28:43] <jml2> jrabbit, docker images should just run..
maybe you're not setting up the docker things correctly
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537[02:30:29] <jml2> jrabbit, or it could be python edition is
not correct -- you can actually have more than one python edition
installed at the same time
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538[02:30:46] <teraflops> cybearg: you will need wireless-tools
and wpasupplicant at least
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539[02:31:05] <jrabbit> jml2: well I'm extending the python
image
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540[02:31:12] <cybearg> teraflops: I've got it figured out,
but thanks!
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541[02:31:16] <teraflops> cybearg: im not aware if your wireless
nic requires firmware
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542[02:31:33] <jrabbit> it's just a trade-off to roll my
own python ontop of the strech image
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543[02:31:41] <teraflops> cybearg: then set it up in your
/etc/network/interfaces
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544[02:31:41] <jml2> cybearg, dmesg |grep -i fail , would
indicate the missing firmware
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545[02:31:53] <cybearg> teraflops: It did, but I got it
installed and working. IT was much easier than the first time.
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548[02:33:11] <teraflops> heh
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549[02:33:58] <teraflops> cybearg: you'll need wpa-ssid and
wpa-psk entries in /etc/network/interfaces this time
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551[02:34:36] <teraflops> as
replaced-url
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552[02:34:39] <cybearg> teraflops: Got those added and it works
just fine
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553[02:34:44] <teraflops> nice
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556[02:34:56] <cybearg> teraflops: Yes, I followed that to a T
this time. I see what I did wrong.
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559[02:36:21] <teraflops> cybearg: well now you have a working
headless machine for fun and profit
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562[02:37:54] <cybearg> terraflops: Here's hoping it can
run as a plex media server, or else I really don't have a great
deal of use for it beyond just not feeling bad for tossing out a
functional computer.
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567[02:39:35] <teraflops> cybearg: hmm i dont know plex,
it's a dlna/upnp thing?
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571[02:41:16] <cybearg> teraflops: Something like that, I guess.
It has very nice clients across lots of platforms, including
Chromecast. Not sure if a Core 2 Duo has enough power to handle the
transcoding, but it's worth a shot, I guess.
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578[02:42:03] <teraflops> cybearg: hmm yeah it's worth a
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584[02:44:04] <teraflops> cybearg: if it hurts you can do other
things there. like sharing the media without transcoding, or setting
up mpd for sharing the music (has many clients), nas for backups and
so on
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589[02:48:05] <cybearg> teraflops: I'm using my
RaspberryPi2 as the NAS. It's tiny and sits on a large SSD
right next to the router.
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590[02:48:15] <teraflops> ah better
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593[02:50:30] <cybearg> taraflops: And it's of comparable
power to the Dell, anyway. :p Just not when it comes to heavy number
crunching. Apparently x86 processors have some advantage over ARM
for heavy calculations that goes beyond clocks and cores.
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594[02:51:27] <teraflops> cybearg: ikr, transcofing in bananapi
or odroid is a joke
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595[02:51:37] <teraflops> transcoding*
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597[02:52:23] <teraflops> cybearg: I run a mediagoblin instance
and i ended avoiding transcoding :P
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602[02:55:38] <cybearg> teraflops: Mediagoblin push to multiple
devices, or is it mostly for desktop clients?
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604[02:56:23] <teraflops> cybearg: nope, it's
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666[03:32:31] <dax> never mind, i poked around more and figured
out what's going on :)
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671[03:34:39] <fdnj> is it possible to make apt-get forget about
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672[03:34:53] <Redfoxmoon> fdnj, sure, fix the package
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674[03:35:10] <fdnj> Redfoxmoon: it is broken on purpose
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675[03:35:17] <Redfoxmoon> fdnj, uhhhh.
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679[03:35:37] <Redfoxmoon> then repackage the package with
non-broken control file? :)
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745[04:27:11] <Delf> "This driver is incompatible with
the GNOME desktop, as it does not support the EGL interface. It is
recommended to use the free radeon driver instead."
Is this something that can help?
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747[04:27:38] <Delf> Why does the fglrx-driver not have EGL
support?
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754[04:33:10] <wald0> what means "sloppy" in debian
backports? its another kind of backports repo?
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770[04:40:05] <happygilmoregent> anyone ever setup up selinux?
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777[04:43:23] <veek> what's the format of cookies in lynx.
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778[04:43:35] <veek> i'm doing lynx google.com
-cookie_save_file=.lynx_cookies -accept_all_cookies -cookies but the
darn file is empty
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781[04:45:32] <happygilmoregent> is there a patch or a nvidia
module b/c my system is flickering
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792[04:56:04] <veek> help aid assist - why isn't lynx
saving cookies darn it
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801[04:57:53] <JavaBean> veek, give it time... the masters might
be doing something else right this minute
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802[04:58:00] <markybob> veek: google doesn't support ie9.
you want it to support lynx?
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804[04:58:45] <markybob> veek:
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805[04:59:24] <kingsley> Do Debian have an architecture, like
"ARM" for example, that runs on completely open source
hardware?
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806[04:59:41] <kingsley> If so, which architecture, and which
hardware?
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809[05:00:18] <veek> lynx -cookie_save_file=cookies -cookies
dailymail.co.uk doesn't either
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812[05:01:44] <veek> neither does imgur
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814[05:02:01] <veek> strace doesn't list any activity with
cookies
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815[05:02:16] <markybob> veek: yeah. i don't think you
understand modern websites. most require javascript and other things
lynx can't do
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818[05:03:48] <Toris> kingsley:
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821[05:08:22] <wald0> what means "sloppy" in debian
backports? its another kind of backports repo?
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825[05:09:38] <markybob> wald0:
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827[05:09:54] <wald0> thx
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836[05:10:49] <ironpillow> hi all, I am compiling and installing
squid 3.5.9 from sources. how do save the compiled version so I
could just do `apt-get install squid3.5.9` ? thanks!
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838[05:11:39] <kingsley> Toris: I followed your advice, and
checked out the FreedomBox link. I like it. Thank you.
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839[05:11:40] <markybob> ironpillow: you really don't.
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840[05:11:48] <wald0> so its sloppy like a backports to the next
two debian versions (old-stable -> testing) instead of the next
one (stable -> testing) ?
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841[05:12:17] <Toris> kingsley: glad it helped, good luck
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842[05:13:07] <ironpillow> markybob: sorry I should have been
more clear. No exactly `apt-get` but install it somehow from the
command line without recompiling (waiting for over 1hr) again.
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845[05:13:53] <ironpillow> markybob: I have three raspberry Pi
and don't want to compile it 3 times :)
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846[05:14:24] <markybob> ironpillow: yeah well debian
doesn't really work that way.
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847[05:15:01] <dondon> ironpillow:
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848[05:15:19] <markybob> ,checkbackport squid3
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849[05:15:20] <judd> Backporting package squid3 in
sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: libecap3-dev (>= 1.0.1-2).
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850[05:15:23] <ironpillow> markybob: ok got it.
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851[05:16:24] <ironpillow> dondon: thanks! will try it out.
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852[05:16:45] <markybob> that's not an easy package to do.
at all.
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853[05:19:09] <markybob> by not easy i mean really fucking hard
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854[05:19:15] <ironpillow> yeah that's what i was afraid
of. it seems daunting to try it.
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855[05:19:57] <ironpillow> its ok I'll just compile it
three times :)
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856[05:20:53] <veek_> lynx -cookie_save_file=/tmp/cookies
google.com (prompts me for instructions on saving the cookie, but
the cookie isn't saved to file) strace doesn't show an
open on the file.. can someone check on their box
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858[05:21:38] <Coolternet> hello guys
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859[05:22:04] <Coolternet> i have an issue with my bash script
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860[05:22:07] <Coolternet> Code :
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861[05:22:34] <Coolternet> When my script download my file, the
script modify my fail to add DOWNLOAD STATUS on top ...
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862[05:22:47] <markybob> Coolternet: that asks us to login to
github. doubt anyone will do that
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863[05:23:05] <Coolternet> ho realy ... wait
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864[05:23:37] <Coolternet>
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865[05:23:39] <Coolternet> :)
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866[05:23:48] <markybob> Coolternet: that requires javascript
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867[05:23:57] <markybob> sigh
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868[05:23:59] <markybob> !pastebin
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869[05:24:00] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
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870[05:24:03] <Coolternet> .. the fuck
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871[05:24:03] <Coolternet> lol
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872[05:25:17] <Coolternet>
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873[05:25:20] <Coolternet> better ?
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874[05:26:29] <markybob> Coolternet: wtf is this? i can't
read it, but why? what is going on? debian has fail2ban
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876[05:27:10] <Coolternet> why u can't read ?
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877[05:27:32] <markybob> Coolternet: it's in french...
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878[05:27:41] <markybob> this isn't #debian-fr
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879[05:27:50] <Coolternet> my script comment is in french ...
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880[05:28:06] <markybob> yeah. and the why is the most important
part. wth is going on?
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881[05:28:37] <Coolternet> my issue is about line 27-28-29 and
18-19-20
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882[05:28:48] <markybob> you claim it's a fail2ban script
but it's clearly an iptables ban list
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883[05:29:07] <markybob> i don't know what to do with this.
i'm out.
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884[05:29:21] <Coolternet> it's an personal script for
Download / Install Fail2Ban and download personal file for F2B ..
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885[05:29:23] <Coolternet> omg..
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891[05:33:11] <derp_commander> I'm trying to debug a messy
permissions problem that I think involves systemd-udev
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895[05:37:30] <derp_commander> gpsd for security reasons drops
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896[05:38:06] <fdnj> is it possible to install android font in
debian?
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900[05:40:39] <Sir_Designer> fdnj
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903[05:42:10] <okee> Does anyone know if Debian Jessie offers an
early warning failure for SSDs? I am thinking of buying a Samsung
850 Pro 2TB SSD.
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904[05:42:20] <fdnj> Sir_Designer: but that is a wrong font
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905[05:42:29] <veek_> okee, smart? smartctl
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906[05:42:43] <Sir_Designer> what is the name of the font you
want?
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909[05:44:36] <okee> veek_> So smart works with both platters
and SSDs?
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910[05:45:07] <veek_> yeh should
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913[05:45:52] <fdnj> it's called "droid sans"
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915[05:46:40] <okee> veek_> OK, I am going to buy my first
SSD, and get a Samsung 850 Pro 2 TB. Pricy little boogers, but they
come with a 10 year waranty, and it would make it easy for me to
upgrade to a new computer later in the year. Currently I have things
scattered over a hodge podge of different drives, making mounting
and unmounting confusing.
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916[05:47:15] <derp_commander> is there any way to set it so
that one user account is actually an alias for another?
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917[05:47:29] <derp_commander> like a symlink, but for UIDs?
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919[05:49:21] <jpleau> derp_commander: out of my head, I
don't think so. What's the use case?
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921[05:49:30] <Sir_Designer> fdnj if you looked on the right of
the link I gave you, it is one of hte other font families listed
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923[05:49:49] <galihom> Good Morning all.
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928[05:52:20] <Lucie20> Picture of me naked:
replaced-url
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929[05:52:22] <Lucie20> Picture of me naked:
replaced-url
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931[05:52:58] <jmcnaught> !ops Lucie20 being inappropriate
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932[05:52:58] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught
complains about: Lucie20 being inappropriate
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934[05:53:22] <derp_commander> jpleau: gpsd drops its
permissions to the gpsd user after binding to the socket
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936[05:53:56] <fdnj> i installed fonts-droid-fallback but it
looks wrong
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937[05:53:59] <derp_commander> but that user doesn't have
permission to use the /dev/pts sockets, and systemd-udev isn't
cooperating with me on giving gpsd that access
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939[05:54:57] <derp_commander> and gpsd lacks a runtime option
to change that behavior, and I'd really rather *not* have to
recompile it
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943[05:56:49] <jmcnaught> okee: there are some SSDs that have
their trim support blacklisted in the kernel, i think Samsung might
on that list. you should check before buying
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944[05:57:40] <fdnj> why was droid sans removed from debian?
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947[05:58:59] <jpleau> derp_commander: never used gpsd, but if
you say that it drops privileges to the 'gpsd' user and
that user doesn't have access to things it should have access
to to work properly, you should file a bug report
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948[05:59:07] <jpleau> (on debian bts, not upstream)
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949[05:59:34] <okee> jmcnaught> What do you mean by trim
support?
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950[06:00:13] <okee> jmcnaught> I asked the store where I was
planning on buying the drive, but they still haven't contacted
me.
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955[06:01:30] <jmcnaught> okee:
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957[06:02:16] <jmcnaught> okee:
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959[06:02:48] <derp_commander> jpleau: problem is it only
appears to be a problem in certain specific configurations, namely
ones where it lacks terminal access and its parent is run as root
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962[06:03:29] <derp_commander> and Linus Torvalds has already
ruled out adding a runtime option
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966[06:04:18] <jpleau> sorry I can't be of much help with
that :/
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967[06:05:02] <fdnj> why the hell they removed droid sans from
the distribution?
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971[06:06:34] <jmcnaught> fdnj: seems to still be available on
jessie, are you on testing? you could try looking around on the
package tracker:
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979[06:09:44] <oshogun> Sup folks
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984[06:12:38] <jml2> fdnj, there's many fonts
->google.com/fonts
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985[06:12:48] <jml2> fdnj, droid would be there i think
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1022[06:30:45] <okee> jmcnaught> Thanks for sharing the
Wikipedia article. Good thing I posted on here, so that I learn
about this. Of the three supporting manufacturers, who has the best
durability and price break: Crucial SSDs, Intel SSDs, or Micron? I
am sorry to see the Samsung 8** doesn't support that.
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1026[06:34:08] <jmcnaught> okee: some models from those
manufacturers are not blacklisted. you could try asking on
hardware for recommended SSDs, or just do lots of research. my
crucial mx200 is not blacklisted for example, but i'm not
sure if it's still made. it's more of a hardware topic than a #debian topic
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1029[06:35:44] <jml2> the angelbird ssds are top notch
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1031[06:37:00] <ironpillow> hi - I am doing
`/sbin/iptables-restore < /etc/network/iptables` and my iptables
file is a bash script. I am getting an error on the first line with
variable.
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1035[06:37:25] <ironpillow> iptables-restore: line 13 failed
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1036[06:38:07] <timmu> ironpillow: so what did you expect?
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1037[06:38:15] <jmcnaught> ironpillow: iptables-restore uses the
output iptables-save not a bash script. you could call
iptables-restore in a script though
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1038[06:38:58] <timmu> ironpillow: run the bloody script. the use
iptables-save, then use iptables-restore on the result
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1040[06:39:11] <jmcnaught> ironpillow: i use a script in
/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ to call iptables-restore so the firware
rules are always loaded before the interface comes up
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1041[06:39:44] <ironpillow> timmu: thanks. i will try that.
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1042[06:40:05] <ironpillow> jmcnaught: that's what i am
doing too. but line timmu said i will do iptables-save first
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1044[06:41:58] <ironpillow> jmcnaught: how would I write that
script: iptables-save < iptables.sh | /sbin/iptables-restore ?
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1049[06:44:10] <jmcnaught> ironpillow: have you read the manpages
for iptables-save and iptables-restore? iptables-save dumps the
rules to stdout in a format that iptables-restore can use. the way a
script would be involved is by calling iptables-restore to load the
saved rules for example. you might also checkout
netfilter-persistent
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1052[06:49:57] <fdnj> how can I make my "keyring" to
unlock "automatically"?
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1058[06:53:36] <jmcnaught> fdnj: for gnome?
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1059[06:53:43] <fdnj> yes
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1062[06:54:52] <jmcnaught> fdnj: this should be set up
automatically by the libpam-gnome-keyring package which the
gnome-core package depends on
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1076[07:02:41] <ironpillow> jmcnaught: I ran the bash script that
contains iptables. did iptables-save > ip.rules then
iptables-restore < ip.rules. iptables -nvL is empty
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1079[07:04:49] <jmcnaught> ironpillow: does ip.rules have
anything in it?
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1080[07:05:02] <ironpillow> jmcnaught: nope empty
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1081[07:06:03] <jmcnaught> ironpillow: you can also just run
"iptables-save" to let it output to your screen and see
what it's saving
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1082[07:06:37] <ironpillow> jmcnaught: nothing.
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1084[07:07:18] <jmcnaught> ironpillow: so you add some rules with
manual calls to iptables, then iptables-save will help you save the
currently loaded rules
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1090[07:14:49] <ironpillow> jmcnaught: i added basic rules but
iptables-save shows nothing
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1091[07:17:33] <vahe1> hi all help pls
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1092[07:17:33] <vahe1> debian easy 6 for maemo (nokia n900)
(reposytory archive.debian.org)
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1093[07:17:33] <vahe1> # apt-get upgrade
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1094[07:17:33] <vahe1> dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error,aborting:
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1095[07:17:33] <vahe1> syntax error: unknown group
'crontab' in statoverride faile
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1096[07:17:33] <vahe1> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an
error code (2)
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1098[07:17:34] <dpkg> vahe1: I don't know, could you explain
it?
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1112[07:29:14] <vahe1> sorry that is not used poste.debian.org))
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1118[07:33:13] <vahe1> pls help
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1119[07:37:39] <jmcnaught> vahe1: does the group crontab exist?
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1120[07:39:35] <vahe1> jmcnaught: /var/spool/cron/crontabs? no :)
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1121[07:40:43] <vahe1> /usr/bin/crontab yes
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1123[07:40:45] <jmcnaught> vahe1: i mean is there a line for the
crontab group in /etc/group. The Debian chroot for maemo is fairly
outdated at this point and was modified to begin with, it might be
difficult to get working.
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1127[07:42:36] <vahe1> jmcnaught: I just don't install a
different,maybe has a solution?
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1130[07:43:33] <vahe1> jmcnaught: this is set automatically
because it is installed if it is possible to lift up to Debian 8 I
will make
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1132[07:44:02] <ironpillow> jmcnaught: iptables is showing
nothing. iptables -nvL is empty
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1134[07:44:17] <ironpillow> I am not able to add or restore
default rules
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1136[07:45:10] <jmcnaught> vahe1: i am skeptical that Debian 8
will run on the very old kernel on the n900. Maybe Debian 7 will
work, but you'd need to find an image prepared for the maemo
debian chroot application, or upgrade one that is already available.
Mine overheated while trying to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy
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1137[07:47:07] <jmcnaught> vahe1: the paste you provided on
paste.debian.net, is that the full output? if you can make a paste
of the command and full output i might be able to help a bit. you
need to look into why the crontab group doesn't exist. the
"cron" package is supposed to add this group to the system
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1138[07:48:07] <jmcnaught> ironpillow: there are no default rules
in Debian. add a rule manually by running iptables on the CLI, then
confirm the rule is there with "iptables -nvL". if that
works, iptables-save should also show the rule
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1139[07:48:48] <jmcnaught> vahe1: what does "getent group
crontab" tell you?
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1141[07:49:08] <dka> need help for configuring a rules using
conntrack with origdstport. I have a range of port I need to block
on the public interface.
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1142[07:49:24] <vahe1> jmcnaught: understood,may have a solution
in debian 6? initially I had problems with the repositories,I
installed only one ,replaced-url
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1143[07:49:29] <ironpillow> jml2:
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1145[07:49:57] <jml2> ironpillow, should be working by now
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1146[07:50:08] <jml2> ironpillow, delete all the other load-up
scripts you made with iptables
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1147[07:50:26] <jml2> ironpillow, btw -> /etc/iptables/rules.*
are not scripts
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1148[07:50:29] <aedinius> iptables?
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1149[07:50:38] <ironpillow> jml2: ok got it
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1150[07:50:41] <aedinius> Perfect opportunity for me to plug my
project!
replaced-url
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1151[07:50:43] <jml2> ironpillow, (i mean dont delete those
rules)
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1152[07:50:46] <jml2> ironpillow, keep em
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1154[07:50:53] <ironpillow> yep :)
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1155[07:50:54] <aedinius> Every confused by generating iptables
rules?
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1156[07:50:59] <jml2> ironpillow, whatever you were tinkering
outside iptabler/netfilter-persistent
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1157[07:51:03] <aedinius> Try my project!
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1158[07:51:13] <aedinius> Please give feedback.
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1159[07:51:37] <jmcnaught> dka: for help making rules for
iptables #iptables is probably a better place to ask
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1161[07:52:38] <vahe1> jmcnaught: getent group crontab nothing
says
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1162[07:52:44] <dka> jmcnaught,
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1163[07:52:45] <dka> Cannot join #iptables (Channel is invite
only).
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1165[07:54:24] <jmcnaught> dka: sorry try #netfilter
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1167[07:55:01] <dka> I did
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1168[07:55:08] <jmcnaught> vahe1: see the /topic, msg bots not
people :) you need to figure out why this group doesn't exist.
does the chroot lack a crontab package for some reason?
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1170[07:56:36] * aedinius wonders how to get more public users of his
project
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1171[07:56:43] <dka> jmcnaught, I did. They told me that what I
needed for blocking ports range [31000-32000], I need to use
conntrack with origdstport because because I have a DNAT in the nat
table.
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1172[07:56:51] <vahe1> jmcnaught: it can is possible to
reinstall?
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1173[07:56:56] <dka> They are not providing further help
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1174[07:57:16] <aedinius> Oh, my project doesn't deal with
NAT. Hm.
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1175[07:58:22] <jmcnaught> aedinius: spamming the project on IRC
probably isn't the best idea
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1180[08:01:35] <jmcnaught> vahe1: you can back up the .img file
that the chroot is stored in (i can't remember where it is) and
try starting again. the question is why you don't have a
crontab group
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1181[08:02:07] <aedinius> jmcnaught: I only brin it up when it
seems releavant
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1183[08:04:01] <jmcnaught> vahe1: it could be that it
doesn't install the cron package because it wouldn't be
used anyways, but you've installed something else that thinks
cron should be there. like i said that chroot is pretty modified. if
i recall correctly it was a hybrid of lenny and squeeze, and not
very supportable at this point
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1186[08:05:21] <jmcnaught> aedinius: your script looks
interesting and like you put a lot of work into it, but i'm
curious why not use something like ufw or one of the other frontends
for managing iptables available in Debian?
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1187[08:05:23] <vahe1> jmcnaught: thanks this for me is difficult
but I will try
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1188[08:06:47] <aedinius> jmcnaught: I dunno. It was based on an
old project at work, and it ended up replacing it
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1189[08:07:51] <aedinius> I think the only person using it is my
people at work
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1190[08:08:09] <aedinius> where it's actually wrapped by
another script
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1192[08:08:26] <jmcnaught> aedinius: most Debian users will be
better of using something available in Debian that could be
supported here and on the mailing lists, but you could make blog
posts about it, put it on reddit. anyways we're getting
offtopic
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1200[08:18:42] <fdnj> can someone explain why so much of debian
software depends on c preprocessor?
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1220[08:34:18] <muculus> by KVM virtualization I have packet loss
on guest machine, and I have no packet loss on Host. Any idea?
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1229[08:42:16] <aedinius> muculus: What kind of nic are you using
for the client?
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1230[08:42:20] <aedinius> s/client/guest/
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1234[08:43:41] <muculus> aedinius: bridge network
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1244[08:51:24] <Guest81055> Hi.
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1245[08:51:47] <muculus> aedinius:
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1247[08:52:04] <Guest81055> Whem I unplug the headphones the
output device doesn't change, therefore no sound. How to fix
this? Udev rules? Something more simple?
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1249[08:53:21] <rawburt> so I have a little problem. new Dell XPS
15 9550 laptop, will not install GRUB during installation. so I try
to follow the steps on the Wiki to install GRUB from rescue mode,
but cannot mount the encrypted LVM. any thoughts on this?
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1250[08:53:59] <rawburt>
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1251[08:54:52] <MeanEYE> How come "unstable" has
fglrx-driver while "testing" doesn't.
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1252[08:55:15] <rawburt> because unstable comes before testing
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1253[08:55:47] <MeanEYE> But eventually it should get it, but it
didn't.
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1260[08:57:55] <dax>
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1262[08:58:34] <dax> tl;dr: it doesn't work with current
Xorg
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1263[08:58:38] <MeanEYE> Thanks dax.
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1264[08:58:45] <aedinius> I thought we moved on to amdgpu
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1265[08:59:06] <dax> I'd recommend amdgpu or radeon,
whichever is relevant for one's card, yes.
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1266[08:59:13] <dax> upstream is killing fglrx
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1268[08:59:56] <MeanEYE> Is HD 5000 mobility supported by amdgpu?
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1269[09:00:30] <dax> no, use radeon
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1270[09:00:37] <MeanEYE> Thought as much.
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1271[09:01:13] <MeanEYE> Everything is really slow for some
reason. Well, slow until display is set up, after which it works
fine.
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1272[09:01:13] <dax> amdgpu is for current-gen cards
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1273[09:01:33] <dax> (and future ones, as i understand it)
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1293[09:15:33] <putridp> Anyone else having trouble using Mac OS
X to connect to a Samba server on jessie? The latest badlock bug fix
in Samba breaks it for me. OS X can still connect to other
(non-updated) servers, and other clients can still connect to the
fully updated Samba server so it's a weird one.
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1408[10:55:15] <Mathisen> any recommendations on a free
alternative for Cpanel ?
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1411[10:56:38] <H4ndy> Froxlor
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1416[10:57:39] <Cyber> can anyone help me setup bluetooth hfp
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1418[10:58:55] <Cyber> I have installed bluez and ofono as well
as pulse audio volume control
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1464[11:18:16] <cdb23ax> hello iam using debian stretch. how can
i setup a ntp server where a windows 7 client can sync the time?
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1472[11:22:59] <strk> what does it mean when lsb_release -a
reports Description: Debian GNU/Linux 8.1 (jessie) and Release: 7
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1473[11:23:12] <strk> is it 7 or 8 ?
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1474[11:23:20] <jmd> Following a security update last week and a
the whole week of users screeming that iceweasel is now *extremely*
slow, I have at last discovered that it is hitting $HOME/.cache at a
rediculous throughput.
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1475[11:23:20] <jmd>
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1476[11:23:38] <jmd> How can I automatically set XDG_CACHE_HOME
for all users?
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1531[11:50:40] <neglesaks> mornign gentlemen. where was it that
you add or remove the action buttons in the nautilus windows bars?
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1534[11:51:00] <neglesaks> or the window bars in genera
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1537[11:52:05] <cdb23ax> can someone tell me how to setup a ntp
server for debian and windows clients? right now the howtos that i
find on the net wont help me
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1538[11:52:16] <cdb23ax> it always says ntpdate[1266]: no server
suitable for synchronization found
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1541[11:54:34] <Wulf> Hello!
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1542[11:54:52] <Wulf> What's the correct way to configure my
/etc/network/interfaces for a static ipv4 and static ipv6 address?
When I have two sections "iface eth0 inet static" and
"iface eth0 inet6 static", ifdown eth0 spouts errors
"RTNETLINK answers: No such process", "RTNETLINK
answers: Cannot assign requested address"
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1563[12:01:49] <neglesaks> nvm, i found it, it is in the tweak
tool
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1567[12:03:31] <ladyfriday> hi - I've noticed that the
libmono-2.0-dev package includes a libmono-2.0.a file - would anyone
be able to tell me what configure flags are used to generate that
library? I tried looking at the source package, I can't figure
it out though
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1588[12:17:44] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: ./configure
--enable-static, i believe
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1600[12:23:09] <ladyfriday> SaveTheRobots: thanks, I'll give
it a shot!
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1604[12:24:37] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: np :)
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1611[12:28:21] <at0m> hi, on one machine, after sddm login, and
regardless of lxde/plasma/fluxbox, i only get an X-shaped mouse
cursor, not seeing anything else. black desktop bg, no menu's
no bars.
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1612[12:28:50] <at0m> no right-click menu, nada.
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1613[12:29:13] <ladyfriday> SaveTheRobots: out of curiosity,
where do I find that option? I don't see it anywhere in the
debian/ directory of the mono package?
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1614[12:29:16] <at0m> anyone have an idea of what i'm doing
wrong?
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1615[12:29:28] <monoxane> who summoned thy?
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1616[12:29:36] <monoxane> ugh, mono
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1617[12:29:42] <ladyfriday> sorry monoxane :(
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1618[12:29:49] <monoxane> its fine
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1619[12:30:08] <monoxane> it happens less than i expected it
would
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1620[12:30:09] <wewlad> hi debs, how does one run tmux? should I
run it right inside of konsole (kde terminal)?
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1621[12:30:20] <at0m> wewlad: yup
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1622[12:30:23] <monoxane> well, now that ive left #audio on tgg
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1624[12:30:58] <wewlad> at0m: as far as I understand tmux has
it's own tabs (not pretty, but still), and konsole too. So what
do I do?
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1625[12:31:01] <ladyfriday> at0m: do you have that problem for
all users? are you doing something in a .xinitrc which could cause
problems perhaps?
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1626[12:31:39] <at0m> ladyfriday: tried single user... will add
one with empty ~/ and try
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1628[12:32:09] <ladyfriday> probably worth checking sddm and X
logs to see if there's anything suspicious there too
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1629[12:33:00] <at0m> ladyfriday: yea got a tail -f on these,
nothing obvious on there
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1631[12:33:40] <at0m> new user logged in, same derp. hmmm.
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1633[12:34:23] <at0m> Alt-F2 then $program doesn't start
$program either
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1634[12:34:29] <ladyfriday> check sddm.conf, anything odd looking
in there?
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1636[12:34:57] <at0m> oh no sddm.conf, only an Xsession file
there
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1638[12:35:24] <at0m> dpkg-reconfigured sddm, only asks what dm
to use - lightdm or sddm
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1641[12:36:09] <at0m> thought it'd be a funny nvidia driver
issue, but then sddm login wouldnt show nicely would it
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1643[12:36:23] <ladyfriday> indeed
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1646[12:37:48] <ladyfriday> if dpdk-reconfigure didn't
generate a config file you can use sddm --example-config >
/etc/sddm.conf to create one
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1647[12:38:07] <at0m> compared to another machine which does
sddm, no sddm.conf there either and runs just fine
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1649[12:38:10] <at0m> ok will try
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1651[12:38:22] <ladyfriday> yeah, you shouldn't need one
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1652[12:39:03] <ladyfriday> might be worth looking in
/usr/share/xsessions/ and checking that whichever environment
you're selecting is set up proprely there
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1653[12:39:36] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: i'm fairly new to
debian packaging but you can add a
'dh_override_auto_configure' to debian/rules with
something along the lines of 'dh_override_auto_configure
--enable-static'
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1654[12:39:54] <SaveTheRobots> there might be a better way, but
that's one way of doing it
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1655[12:40:10] <SaveTheRobots> you may also need to to add the .a
file(s) to <package>.install
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1658[12:41:40] <at0m> ladyfriday: the sddm.conf didn't
change anything obvious, now looking at xsessions...
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1659[12:42:03] <dury> hi there channel :-)
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1665[12:43:52] <ladyfriday> SaveTheRobots: oh, the package
already builds a static lib, but if I just grab the source and do
./configure I don't get it - that's why I'm confused
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1666[12:44:46] <ladyfriday> and I can't see any reference to
--enable-static in any of the files there
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1667[12:44:51] <dury> did my best to install or better say to
autostart xscreensaver
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1669[12:45:48] <ladyfriday> dury: which desktop
environment/window manager are you using?
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1670[12:46:16] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: aahhhh ok, you might
want to look into LDFLAGS='-static', or something along
those lines
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1671[12:46:17] <ladyfriday> not all of them look at the autostart
files
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1672[12:47:05] <dury> ladyfriday, mmm gnome 3.14
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1677[12:49:00] <dury> ladyfriday, so how do I perform to sole
that, then?
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1678[12:49:29] <at0m> ladyfriday: selected lightdm for DM, that
returns me back to lightdm login window. argh.
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1680[12:49:55] <ladyfriday> SaveTheRobots: I did a `grep -r
static .`, andcouldn't find anything relevant... as far as I
can see it should just be there by default :/
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1685[12:52:25] <teraflops> dury: for gnome per user config Put
the relevant .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart
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1688[12:52:42] <ladyfriday> dury: gnome has a gui which you can
use for making programs autostart, it might be worth doing it that
way
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1691[12:53:24] <jim> does debian support selinux?
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1692[12:53:29] <ladyfriday> SaveTheRobots: my build just
finished, looks like --enable-static was ignored :/
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1693[12:53:32] <ladyfriday> thanks anyway!
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1705[12:56:16] <dury> teraflops, as root... let's say
"gedit ~/.config/autostart" what else? without brakets of
course
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1706[12:56:50] <teraflops> dury: as root? You're doing it
r0ng...
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1709[12:57:37] <teraflops> Autostart is a folder btw
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1711[12:57:50] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: strange, i just took a
look at the configure script and it should be enabling static libs
by default, weird :(
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1714[12:58:44] <SaveTheRobots> at0m: have you tried running your
WM/DE via startx and looking at the output? most DMs also log to
~/.xsession-errors or something along those lines
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1716[12:59:09] <dury> teraflops, where is autostart folder
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1718[12:59:54] <SaveTheRobots> dury: ~/.config/autostart ;)
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1719[12:59:55] <teraflops> I already told you.
~/.config/autostart
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1721[13:00:16] <SaveTheRobots> symlink the .desktop files for the
apps you want to autostart into there
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1722[13:00:24] <teraflops> dury: it it's not there create
it.
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1723[13:01:00] <teraflops> If*
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1724[13:01:19] <dury> teraflops, so mkdir ~/.config/autostart
then?
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1725[13:01:42] <teraflops> dury: it doesn't exist?
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1731[13:03:51] <dury> teraflops, it does exist
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1733[13:04:23] <teraflops> Then drop/symlink the desktop file you
wanted autostart in there
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1737[13:05:16] <teraflops> Ehhh sorry I'm on the.phone it
has its own consciousness
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1743[13:06:22] <at0m> SaveTheRobots: thanks, will try the startx
way!
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1746[13:07:33] <wewlad> at0m: as far as I understand tmux has
it's own tabs (not pretty, but still), and konsole too. So what
do I do?
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1749[13:08:13] <ladyfriday> SaveTheRobots: that's the exact
conclusion I've reached as well... think I'm just gonna
spin up a debian unstable VM and use that, I've already lost a
day to this :P
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1754[13:10:10] <dury> teraflops, how do I do the drop/symlink the
deskde
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1756[13:10:30] <teraflops> Heh
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1757[13:10:45] <dury> sorry deskde = desktop
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1758[13:11:22] <dury> teraflops, how do I do the drop/symlink
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1759[13:11:34] <dury> sorry to repeat
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1761[13:13:05] <SaveTheRobots> at0m: np ;)
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1762[13:13:13] <teraflops> Cp or ln -s whatever floats your goat
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1763[13:13:14] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: hehe, i know the
feeling :p... why not use a chroot btw?
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1764[13:14:23] <ladyfriday> then I'd have to figure out how
to set up a chroot, which will take as much time as spinning up a VM
:p
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1765[13:15:29] <wewlad> how to know what shell I'm currently
using? I thought 'echo $SHELL' tells, but it seems to show
just the default shell for the current user, not the current shell.
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1767[13:16:32] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: lol, fair point :p
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1768[13:16:45] <dury> teraflops, gesss I don't know how to
do that.... :-(
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1769[13:17:00] <dury> teraflops, what I mess
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1770[13:17:14] <wewlad> I know only of a hackish way 'ps -p
$$'
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1772[13:17:46] <dury> teraflops, no kidding, belive me
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1774[13:18:12] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: echo $0
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1775[13:18:30] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: thx!
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1777[13:19:05] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: btw, just for future
reference, debootstrap and/or pbuilder are awesome
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1778[13:19:28] <SaveTheRobots> creating a new chroot is as easy
as 'pbuilder --create' && 'pbuilder
--login' (after some initial config)
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1779[13:19:36] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: np
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1780[13:20:26] <SaveTheRobots> and there's also
systemd-nspawn
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1781[13:20:35] <SaveTheRobots> and lxc... and... *shuts up* :p
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1782[13:21:38] <dury> can't find xscreensaver execute comand
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1784[13:22:05] <dury> in terminal is xscreensaver-demo
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1789[13:23:23] <XATRIX> Hi, i've renamed my volume group of
LVM, and now, i can't boot my system
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1791[13:24:01] <XATRIX> I tried to boot from a rescuecd , assmble
raid+lvm, chroot and run update-initramfs -u -k all , but still have
no luck
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1792[13:24:28] <XATRIX> how can i update my kernel VG signature ?
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1794[13:25:39] <sysRPL> hello
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1795[13:25:43] <sysRPL> how do i fix this? sudo apt-get install
libxext-dev ... leading to ... The following packages have unmet
dependencies: libxext-dev : Depends: libxext6 (= 2:1.3.2-1) but
2:1.3.2-1ubuntu0.0.14.04.1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct
problems, you have held broken packages.
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1801[13:26:49] <dury> in tweak tool there is an option Startup
application as ladyfriday said, but can't find xscreensaver
application to add it it's not in the list
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1804[13:28:16] <ladyfriday> dury: it should be in /usr/bin if
it's installed
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1806[13:28:39] <dka> I need help configuring a range port block
rules with iptables, I got no answer in netfilter yeu. Is anyone
here used to iptables whiling to help ?
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1809[13:29:37] <dury> ladyfriday, the thing is how to add it to
the list... that's the problem
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1811[13:29:59] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: do you by chance know hot
to set up what's and how written in CLI before each command at
left?
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1814[13:30:40] <wewlad> I mean it sometimes shows up like
'user@hostname:', but for root it shows
'bash-4.3#' for me
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1815[13:30:47] <jelly> dka: it's a Sunday, be patient
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1816[13:30:51] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: look into setting PS1
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1817[13:31:40] <SaveTheRobots> dka: iptables -A <CHAIN> -p
tcp --sport 1000:2000 -j DROP.. or whatever
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1818[13:31:47] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: thanks
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1819[13:31:55] <SaveTheRobots> it's a fairly easy question
to google...
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1820[13:31:58] <jelly> wewlad: it's called a
"prompt"
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1821[13:31:59] <ladyfriday> I'm afraid I haven't used
gnome in a long time, so I can't help any further
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1822[13:31:59] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: np
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1829[13:32:48] <wewlad> where to read about vars for $PS1?
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1830[13:33:08] <Guest81055> When I plug the headphones the output
device changes from speakers to analog output, which is fine, but
unfortunately it doesn't change back once I unplug them. I
thought that udev manages this but udevadm monitr doesn't show
anything, I don't see anything either in journalct. What
mechanism is resposible for this?
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1833[13:33:39] <teraflops> dury: what is the app you want to
autostart?
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1834[13:33:41] <SaveTheRobots> dury: just create a .desktop file
in ~/.config/autostart... call it 'Xscreensaver.desktop"
and add Name and Exec lines, check other .desktop files for
reference
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1837[13:34:00] <teraflops> ah xcreensave
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1839[13:34:17] <ladyfriday> hmm, I'm getting "No kernel
modules found" with the network installer for unstable, if I
hit continue it fails when partitioning... is there some trick to
get around that, or should I just download an iso?
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1842[13:34:44] <teraflops> dury: put this into
~/.config/autostart/Xscreensaver.desktop
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1843[13:34:53] <teraflops> dury: and restart gnome
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1844[13:34:56] <jelly> wewlad: the manual for your shell of
choice
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1850[13:36:48] <wewlad> jelly: I'd like to make a universal
settings that would work in both shells I plan to use (bash and
zsh), is there a single file to specify those settings or should I
just set variables in .bashrc and .zshrc?
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1857[13:37:47] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad:
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1858[13:37:52] <ladyfriday> wewlad: you could have a
~/.variables.sh file and source it from both
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1861[13:38:39] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: well that's a
ridiculously easy way, definitely not linux way :)
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1862[13:39:54] <wewlad> ladyfriday: yeah, but they may have
different syntax (I didn't check), and it seems like more
properly would be to use .bashrc and .zshrc.
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1864[13:40:30] <wewlad> sometimes I ask for stupid stuff that I
don't actually need. I do ask though because I don't yet
know that I don't need it.
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1865[13:40:58] <dury> teraflops, what I did is, gedit
~/.config/autostart/Xscreensaver.desktop and copy the the lines in
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1866[13:41:07] <teraflops> fine
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1867[13:41:11] <teraflops> restart gnome
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1868[13:41:30] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: syntax is the same and
there are other files you can use, .pam_environment and .profile
should both work with both shells
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1869[13:41:37] <dury> teraflops, gessss
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1870[13:41:45] <SaveTheRobots> .pam_environment definitely will
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1872[13:41:49] <ladyfriday> wewlad: if it's just for common
variables like EDITOR etc then you'll be fine doing that
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1874[13:41:59] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: the less files = the
better
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1875[13:42:08] <ladyfriday> the other solution is to just pick
one shell and stick with that :p
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1876[13:42:27] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: not really, in this case,
the CORRECT files = best
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1877[13:42:32] <teraflops> dury: im not native english is from
triana :P so define gessss :P
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1878[13:42:38] <teraflops> I'm*
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1879[13:42:39] <wewlad> ladyfriday: echo $EDITOR replies with
emptyness
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1880[13:42:58] <wewlad> teraflops: triana? what's that?
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1881[13:43:03] <dury> teraflops, jeessuss
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1882[13:43:07] <teraflops> ah hehe
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1883[13:43:10] <ladyfriday> it will unless you set it
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1884[13:43:39] <teraflops> dury: btw what I told you works,
I'm 100% sure about that
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1886[13:43:48] <wewlad> ladyfriday: I try not to touch things I
don't know of...
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1890[13:44:11] <dury> teraflops, what's btw
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1891[13:44:16] <teraflops> by the way
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1892[13:44:18] <teraflops> :P
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1893[13:44:27] <dury> teraflops, right
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1894[13:44:39] <dury> teraflops, catch it :-)
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1901[13:46:01] <teraflops> dury: the issue here is that
there's no /usr/share/applications/xcreensaver.desktop file in
the debian package :S
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1902[13:46:32] <dury> bbl
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1903[13:46:32] <ladyfriday> guess I'll install jessie then
dist-upgrade to unstable
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1905[13:47:40] <SaveTheRobots> teraflops: afaik, there
shouldn't be, it's not a desktop app...
xscreensaver-config should have a .desktop file though
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1906[13:48:12] <teraflops> SaveTheRobots: you want to launch the
config interface every time? heh
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1907[13:48:52] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: 'debootstrap
unstable /srv/chroots/unstable
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1911[13:49:28] <SaveTheRobots> teraflops: no, the config app is a
desktop app, meant to be used by the enduser, xscreensaver
isn't... it's a daemon
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1912[13:49:30] <ladyfriday> SaveTheRobots: I've still gotta
install jessie for that to work, I'm not on a debian box just
now :<
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1914[13:50:05] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: which distro? other
distros have deboobstrap in their repos
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1918[13:51:05] <ladyfriday> oh, so it does, cool
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1920[13:51:15] <ladyfriday> I'm on Arch just now
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1922[13:51:31] <ladyfriday> I'll bare that in mind for next
time though, thanks
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1923[13:51:46] <SaveTheRobots> np
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1924[13:52:26] <teraflops> SaveTheRobots: indeed there no
xscreensaver.desktop in other distros I have at hand...
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1926[13:52:48] <ladyfriday> that's how I got into all this,
the arch mono packages don't have the .a, whereas the debian
ones do
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1929[13:53:04] <monoxane> ಠ_ಠ
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1930[13:53:11] <ladyfriday> but debian stable uses an old version
of mono which has a bug causing my program to not work :P
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1934[13:53:34] <ladyfriday> I'm hoping all will magically
work once I've got unstable set up
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1935[13:53:40] <SaveTheRobots> teraflops: :]
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1936[13:53:41] <teraflops> ladyfriday: youre right because nobody
uses it :P
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1937[13:54:05] <ladyfriday> teraflops: why do people keep saying
that! :<
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1939[13:54:55] <teraflops> ladyfriday: because it's the
truth, you know, life sucks
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1940[13:54:56] <Guest81055> What controls earphones detection?
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1944[13:55:42] <SaveTheRobots> Guest81055: pulseaudio, if you
have it installed
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1945[13:56:23] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: .a files are static
libs, why not just copy it over from wherever, and use it with your
app ?
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1946[13:56:40] <SaveTheRobots> (you app will have to be compiled
against it of course)
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1947[13:56:44] <SaveTheRobots> your*
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1949[13:57:12] <ladyfriday> SaveTheRobots: I don't have the
.a for an up to date mono
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1951[13:57:30] <Guest81055> SaveTheRobots, no, I don't think
I have, yet it works. Do you know what may be behind it? I
don't see any udev event when I plug headphones in.
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1952[13:57:44] <ladyfriday> hopefully I will once this install is
finished
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1954[13:58:08] <SaveTheRobots> ladyfriday: ah, ok
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1956[13:58:40] <SaveTheRobots> Guest81055: hmm not sure, could be
a udev or acpi event?
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1958[13:58:48] <SaveTheRobots> i have nothing to test that with
atm :(
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1963[13:59:17] <Guest81055> SaveTheRobots, too bad, can't
find anything about it on the internets.
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1964[13:59:19] <SaveTheRobots> try udevadm monitor or acpi_listen
maybe
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1966[13:59:32] <ladyfriday> I probably should have gone for this
solution straight off, rather than recompiling mon o with different
flags trying to make the .a appear :>
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1969[13:59:48] <Guest81055> SaveTheRobots, already tried udev and
it's silent. I will take a look at acpi, thanks for the input.
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1977[14:01:28] <Guest81055> SaveTheRobots, yup, it returns the
events. Thanks again.
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1979[14:01:50] <wewlad> so I added 'export
PS1="…"' to my user's
'$HOME/.bashrc', then I su'ed and… turns out
it also affected root user, why? I haven't modified yet
'/root/.bashrc'
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1981[14:01:54] <SaveTheRobots> Guest81055: pleasure :)
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1992[14:03:32] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: su carries over your
environment variables by default, afaik, try 'su --login'
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1997[14:05:00] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: thanks, I think I'll
alias that
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1999[14:05:16] <SaveTheRobots> np dude
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2000[14:05:20] <SaveTheRobots> (or dudette)
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2001[14:05:31] <wewlad> wewlad != wewgal
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2003[14:06:38] <SaveTheRobots> ah.. 'lad'... UK? :p
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2006[14:07:31] <wewlad> no, thats just some meme I don't
even like
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2007[14:07:44] <SaveTheRobots> ah ok, hehe
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2009[14:08:22] <hammo> hey guys, noob question does debian jessie
still ref /etc/network/interfaces?
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2012[14:09:11] <jim> mine does
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2015[14:10:29] <hammo> i edited /etc/network/interfaces then up
down eth2 and no change?
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2016[14:11:07] <jim> does that file have passwords or other
sensitive data?
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2018[14:11:28] <hammo> or do i have to restart whole network
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2019[14:11:31] <hammo> nope
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2032[14:13:30] <hammo>
replaced-url
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2040[14:14:54] <jim> I think you hae to indent address
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2041[14:15:09] <jim> line 11
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2044[14:15:25] <hammo> ahh, thought up down would pull new
config, i'll restart network ser
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2048[14:17:15] <jim> then, ifdown eth2 ; ifup eth2
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2050[14:18:22] <teraflops> hammo: ifup/down is fine
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2053[14:18:42] <dury> back again jeessuss teraflops.... :-(
xscreensaver doesn't launch after not using the computer.
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2054[14:18:57] <teraflops> dury: configure it!
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2056[14:19:32] <teraflops> dury: or use gnome-screensaver, I
guess it has better gnome integration
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2058[14:20:25] <dury> Xscreensaver is better and awesome,
teraflops
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2060[14:20:40] <hammo> thanks tear jim
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2061[14:20:45] <hammo> tera
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2063[14:20:49] <teraflops> dury: ah sure I don't use any
just hessing
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2065[14:20:59] <teraflops> guessing*
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2066[14:21:08] <jim> hammo, what did you do/what happened?
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2071[14:23:57] <dury> teraflops, can you please assist me to
configure Xscreensaver to launch after 5 minutes not using the
computer
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2073[14:24:12] <teraflops> dury: I do not use it...
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2074[14:24:32] <dury> jeesssuss :-(
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2077[14:24:40] <teraflops> dury: I'll need to google for it
in order to assists you, it sounds overkill
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2080[14:25:00] <teraflops> dury: heh sorry mate
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2084[14:26:04] <dury> teraflops, you did your best which I really
appreciate it indeed :-)
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2089[14:26:51] <dury> teraflops, in wheezy was easier
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2090[14:27:20] <teraflops> dury: np glad to help
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2097[14:30:04] <dury> you know why I like debian more than ubuntu
'cause in debian it's harder you have to make your effort
work more .... in ubuntu everything is done already
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2104[14:33:35] <jelly> wewlad: bash and zsh have wildly different
syntax for PS1 and other prompts
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2105[14:34:52] <dury> teraflops, could be that for jessie as
well, what your opinion
replaced-url
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2106[14:35:07] <teraflops> Let me see
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*!*@ARennes-656-1-328-94.w2-12.abo.wanadoo.fr$##not-a-honeypot
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2115[14:35:52] <teraflops> dury: you meant xscreensaver does not
start automatically?
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2117[14:36:15] <dury> teraflops, yeap
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2122[14:37:13] <hammo> hey jim still no ip add change here
pastebin of interfaces.conf and ifconf for eth2
replaced-url
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2128[14:40:23] <hammo> even restarting net ser doesnt pick up new
ip add?
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2129[14:41:21] <wewlad> jelly: yeah, I already empirically
figured it out, I guess I need to configure zshrc to have it's
own PS1 value, but since there's no analog of
replaced-url
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2134[14:45:48] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: just fyi, there's a
script that converts bash PS1 to zsh PS1
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2135[14:45:56] <SaveTheRobots> it's in zsh-common, from what
i remember
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2137[14:46:28] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: where's that
zsh-common? is it a dir/file on file system or is it a command?
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2138[14:46:53] <teraflops> dury: are you sure?
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2139[14:47:16] <teraflops> dury: what's the output of `pgrep
xscreensaver` ?
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2141[14:47:38] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: it's a script
included in the package... try 'dpkg -L zsh-common | grep -i
prompt'
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2142[14:47:43] <dury> teraflops, totally sure buddy... believe me
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2143[14:47:55] <teraflops> ... what's the output of `pgrep
xscreensaver` ?
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2144[14:47:59] <SaveTheRobots> should be called bash2zshprompt or
something...
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2145[14:48:02] <dury> teraflops, one second
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2149[14:49:04] <teraflops> dury: well, I set it up in an vm and
it works ...
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2151[14:49:33] <teraflops> dury:
replaced-url
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2152[14:49:43] <dury> teraflops, output simply is a number which
is 1538
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2153[14:49:51] <teraflops> dury: yeah it's running
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2154[14:49:56] <teraflops> go configure it
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2155[14:50:03] <teraflops> dury: xscreensaver-demo
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2157[14:50:33] <teraflops> dury: set it to 1 minute
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2160[14:50:59] <dury> teraflops, right hang on
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2162[14:52:07] <dury> teraflops, did it now wait for 1 minute.
one minute please
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2163[14:52:19] <teraflops> for testing purposes, if it does not
get launched try editing the .desktop file you created earlier and
change the Exec= line to xscreensaver -no-spash but as I said I do
not use it
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2164[14:52:26] <teraflops> dury: sure np
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2167[14:53:36] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: there's
'/usr/share/doc/zsh-common/examples/Misc/bash2zshprompt'
script without proper comments of how to use it, what should I do
with it?
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2169[14:53:55] <jordila> dear #debian community
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2170[14:54:06] <jordila> we are suffering intrusions...
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2172[14:54:27] <jordila> in our Debian 8 GNU/Linux : from China
IP address
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2179[14:55:26] <jordila> i don't know why 'iptables -A
INPUT -s 183.3.202.199 -j DROP' is no blocking it ...
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2180[14:55:31] <jordila> what am i missing ?
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2181[14:55:32] <teraflops> jordila: are you sure it's not
about silly bots doing harmless intentions to connect to your ssh?
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2183[14:55:56] <jordila> how can i double check teraflops
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2184[14:55:56] <dury> bbl
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2185[14:55:58] <jordila> thanks!
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2187[14:56:17] <jordila> sometimes the get connected ...
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2188[14:56:24] <teraflops> jordila: look at /var/log/auth.log
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2189[14:56:28] <jordila> thanks
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2190[14:57:18] <teraflops> jordila: btw /sbin/iptables -I INPUT
-s remoteip -j DROP
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2193[14:57:50] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: that's the one,
it's been a while since i used it though :(
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2196[14:58:33] <jordila> ^^
replaced-url
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2198[14:59:42] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: sorry to bother you, but
could you take a look at it and tell me what should I do with it to
conver bash's prompt to zsh's prompt using that script?
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2204[15:02:51] <teraflops> jordila: use passwordless ssh. Use
fail2ban. Ignore the bots etc, etc.
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2207[15:03:04] <ZenWalker> hello, some command to simulate
another command without write in disc?
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2210[15:03:47] <jordila> ok.. thanks teraflops, missing fail2ban
...
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2211[15:04:11] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: perl <script>
~/.bashrc, i think
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2212[15:04:26] <SaveTheRobots> it should spew out a converted
.zshrc
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2213[15:04:34] <teraflops> I didn't say go use all of that.
just pointing alternatives
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2217[15:05:00] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: will it just convert
export PS1 or the whole .bashrc with all the aliases and stuff?
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2220[15:05:39] <rozie> jordila: iptables work from up, to down
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2224[15:05:59] <jordila> thanks rozie... but...
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2226[15:06:09] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: just the prompt i think
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2227[15:06:13] <jordila> ah... you mean probably some upper rule
is opening the door to
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2228[15:06:15] <jordila> thanks
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2229[15:06:19] <rozie> if you have rule which ACCEPT that traffic
before, there will be no effect when you DROP later
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2230[15:06:25] <jordila> yup
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2231[15:06:30] <jordila> sure
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2232[15:06:36] <teraflops> wewlad: IMHO you're doing it
wrong. Instead doing black magic go create your own one from
scratch. Step by step so you know what're you doing and also
learning a bit.
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2235[15:07:24] <rozie> jordila: iptables -L -n -v may be helpful
to check which rules are being used
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2236[15:07:29] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: didn't work, it just
echoed .bashrc
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2238[15:07:55] <jordila> (i'll do rozie... ) uh...no
fail2ban package in Jessie
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2240[15:08:00] <jordila> ...changed the name ?
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2241[15:08:04] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: weird, i just tried it and
it converted the PS1
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2242[15:08:09] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: ah, it actually converted
it
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2243[15:08:20] <wewlad> so I should just pipe that output to file
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2244[15:08:30] <markybob> jordila: it's in jessie.
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2245[15:08:33] <markybob> ,v fail2ban
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2246[15:08:34] <judd> Package: fail2ban on amd64 -- squeeze:
0.8.4-3+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 0.8.4-3+squeeze2;
squeeze-security-lts: 0.8.4-3+squeeze3; squeeze-backports:
0.8.6-3wheezy1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.6-3wheezy3; wheezy-security:
0.8.6-3wheezy3; jessie: 0.8.13-1; stretch: 0.9.3-1; sid: 0.9.4-1
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2247[15:08:36] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: yup, pipe it to your
.zshrc
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2248[15:08:41] <SaveTheRobots> and change as necessary
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2250[15:09:02] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: 'bash:
/home/user/.zshrc: Permission denied'
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2251[15:09:03] <wewlad> :D
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2252[15:09:05] <rozie> jordila: is this SSH attack?
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2254[15:09:21] <jordila> yes rozie
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2255[15:09:21] <rozie> jordila: take a look on blocklist.de
anyway
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2256[15:09:26] <jordila> thanks rozie
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2257[15:09:29] <jordila> i'll do
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2258[15:09:30] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: lol, did you use sudo? ;)
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2259[15:09:31] <rozie> and it has fail2ban integrations
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2260[15:09:38] <jordila> nice to know
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2261[15:09:43] <SaveTheRobots> check owner/permissions
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2262[15:09:45] <jordila> i love #debian
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2263[15:09:46] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: no, and owner is user:user
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2265[15:10:00] <wewlad> permissions are -rw-r--r--
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2266[15:10:14] <SaveTheRobots> when are you getting that error,
what are you doing?
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2267[15:10:15] <rozie> you can also grab their list and use it to
feed iptables manually
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2268[15:10:33] <jordila> Thanks rozie. mmmh, sorry, feeling so
newbie today... 'Package fail2ban is not available, but is
referred to by another package.
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2269[15:10:33] <jordila> ' ?
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2270[15:10:51] <rozie> and, ipset is much better for blocking
large amount of IPs
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2271[15:10:52] <teraflops> Heh jordila to can also block the
entire China :P
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2272[15:10:59] <teraflops> You
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2273[15:11:04] <jordila> yeah teraflops :-P
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2274[15:11:09] <teraflops> Heh
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2275[15:11:16] <jordila> an inverse Great Wall ? :-P
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2276[15:11:26] <wewlad> SaveTheRobots: perl
/usr/share/doc/zsh-common/examples/Misc/bash2zshprompt ~/.bashrc |
~/.zshrc
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2277[15:11:26] <jordila> and Korea... and Malysia...and...
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2278[15:11:46] <rozie> there is a way to use geoip blocking ;)
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2279[15:11:51] <jordila> ah
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2280[15:11:54] <jordila> :-)
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2281[15:11:59] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: you pipe to commands, not
files ;)
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2282[15:12:07] <SaveTheRobots> perl
/usr/share/doc/zsh-common/examples/Misc/bash2zshprompt ~/.bashrc
> ~/.zshrc
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2283[15:12:24] <wewlad> aah
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2284[15:12:25] <wewlad> thx
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2285[15:12:27] <teraflops> jordila: I.mean you can do it. I did
it one time. But it's a bit overkill
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2286[15:12:46] <SaveTheRobots> np dude
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2288[15:14:11] <Guest81055> I can't find cpu.cfs_period_us
or cpu.cfs_quota_us in cgroups. I am using 8.4. Is this normal?
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2289[15:14:31] <wewlad> turns out it converted with some error:
'[user] ~/ $ ' got converted into '[uzer] ~/ \$
'
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2291[15:14:44] <jordila> sure teraflops
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2292[15:15:04] <wewlad> and it also generates a few errors...
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2294[15:15:13] <jordila> i'm more about filtering ssh acces
to the Riseup VPN node i normally use...
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2295[15:15:14] <wewlad> mostly about bash-completion
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2296[15:15:31] <wewlad> and some command not found
'shopt'
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2297[15:15:42] <jordila> they're back again, teraflops
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2298[15:15:45] <jordila> et al.
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2299[15:15:49] <jordila> 'tcp 0 0 guarani:ssh
183.3.202.199:35894 ESTABLISHED root 9735 3624/sshd: root [pr
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2300[15:15:50] <jordila> '
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2302[15:16:07] <jordila> does it means they are trying or
connected to SSH ?
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2303[15:16:30] <SaveTheRobots> wewlad: yeah, it even says in the
comments of the script that it's ugly and hacky, it should do
most of the lifting for you but you'll need to finish the rest
off yourself
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2304[15:16:34] <jordila> uh...they're gone..
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2306[15:16:49] <jordila> they didn't succeed...
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2307[15:17:06] <rozie> jordila: these are bots. join
blocklist.de, probably
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2308[15:17:19] <jordila> thanks rozie
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2309[15:17:22] <rozie> and disable root login with password
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2310[15:17:23] <teraflops> jordila: harmless unless they become
in ddos and affecting your network performance. Block those ip by
hand while you're setting up a sane solution
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2311[15:17:29] <jordila> done rozie
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2312[15:17:39] <wewlad> is there a way to make nano show line
numbers for each line or at least for caret's position?
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2314[15:17:41] <jordila> thanks teraflops
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2315[15:17:53] <jim> hammo, got sidetracked... try this exactly:
ifdown eth2 ; ifup eth2
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2317[15:18:31] <teraflops> jordila: np
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2319[15:20:10] <wewlad> how to echo n'th line from a file?
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2320[15:20:11] <teraflops> jordila: also what rozie said of
course
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2321[15:20:18] <jordila> :)
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2324[15:20:45] <rozie> BTW if you have some spare resources,
TARPIT instead of REJECT/DROP may be fun
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2326[15:20:59] <teraflops> Heh
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2327[15:21:08] <wewlad> nvm, googled the answer
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2330[15:22:02] <ZenWalker> there are any more than google
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2331[15:22:27] <wewlad> google is a verb nowadays
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2334[15:22:48] <ZenWalker> google is evil
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2337[15:23:01] <wewlad> google as a noun - probably yes
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2339[15:23:29] <rozie> wewlad: as verb too
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2340[15:23:47] <wewlad> rozie: why?
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2341[15:23:54] <teraflops> Go Google it :P
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2342[15:23:58] <rozie> because duckduckgo!
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2344[15:24:01] <Drzacek> Hi. Anyone could advice light LAMP
packages alternatives for debian?
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2346[15:24:22] <unborn> Drzacek: jasne
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2348[15:24:31] <unborn> Drzacek: sorry, I mean sure
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2350[15:24:40] <Drzacek> spoko
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2352[15:24:52] <Drzacek> I mean ok
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2353[15:24:52] <rozie> ;)
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2354[15:24:54] <abrotman> Drzacek: what do you want to be
lighter?
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2356[15:25:00] <unborn> Drzacek: :) okay so what you want to
install? full web srv?
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2357[15:25:08] <rozie> Drzacek: nginx/lighttpd instead of apache
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2358[15:25:22] <Drzacek> from what I recall, lighttp was nice
alternative
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2359[15:25:36] <abrotman> so use that, the other bits can't
really be replaced if you want those features
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2361[15:25:41] <Drzacek> and the full LAPM package takes a lot of
space. My system runs on 8gb usb drive
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2362[15:25:41] <teraflops> Drzacek: nginx is really nice and fast
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2363[15:25:45] <abrotman> I mean, you could replace mysql with
sqlite perhaps
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2364[15:25:50] <abrotman> depends on your needs
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2365[15:25:52] <unborn> ah im just apache guys im afraid Drzacek
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2366[15:26:09] <unborn> 8gb should be fine
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2368[15:26:17] <abrotman> so helpful ...
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2370[15:26:31] <Drzacek> there's gonna be other thing there
too. At the moment I have 2.6gb free space
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2372[15:26:53] <rozie> Drzacek: is it headless?
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2374[15:27:12] <teraflops> Mysql is hunger sqlite is lightweight
as abrotman said
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2375[15:27:13] <rozie> 6GB is pretty much space, just for server
packages
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2376[15:27:19] <Drzacek> and since I'm not gonna do any
heavy-duty website, just so simple stuff, moslty for learning, I
wan't it to be minimal
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2378[15:27:23] <Drzacek> of course it's headless
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2380[15:27:40] <abrotman> Drzacek: Do you actually need dynamic
content?
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2381[15:27:47] <abrotman> i.e., PHP?
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2382[15:27:53] <Drzacek> yes
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2383[15:27:57] <rozie> he wants to learn
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2384[15:28:09] <rozie> and BTW, be careful with running DB on
flash drive
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2385[15:28:19] <abrotman> Drzacek: okay, then yeah, use PHP,
sqlite, nginx or lighttpd
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2387[15:28:28] <Drzacek> rozie, a lot of read/writes?
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2389[15:28:37] <rozie> there may be lots of writing, and flash
drives don't like writes
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2390[15:28:43] <abrotman> potentially, yes, it's your data,
only you can know
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2393[15:29:07] <rozie> especially that probably you don't
use SSD, just some pendrive/sdcard
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2395[15:29:31] <Drzacek> rozie, maybe I could create small ram
disk, where DB would work, and it would write backup to usb disk
once/day?
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2397[15:29:59] <Drzacek> rozie, pendrive. But SSD don't like
write's too
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2402[15:30:51] <rozie> well, SSDs are now much more durable
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2403[15:31:07] <rozie> I had 3-4 years old SSD at work (desktop)
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2404[15:31:08] <unborn> Drzacek: not a true.. I use ssd on my
server as well as on all my machines in home (laptops)
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2405[15:31:37] <rozie> according to SMART it was worn off by less
than 10%
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2406[15:31:48] <unborn> Drzacek: usb sticks aka pendrives have rw
limits.. mysql will possibly kill that pendrive in a week or so
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2407[15:31:49] <rozie> OK, no swap and no /tmp on the drive
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2408[15:31:51] <Drzacek> I also use SSd in my laptop, but I like
to think that I don't do any unnecessary writing to it
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2412[15:32:17] <rozie> unborn: reads are free!
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2413[15:32:17] <Drzacek> no swap, but /tmp?
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2414[15:32:24] <rozie> tmpfs
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2415[15:32:32] <Drzacek> I do have /tmp
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2416[15:32:39] <rozie> just mount it as tmpfs
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2418[15:32:50] <unborn> rozie: yeah :) its just habit for me when
I speak about read and write
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2420[15:33:16] <rozie> and, for pendrives, consider FS without
journal
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2421[15:33:22] <rozie> and of course noatime
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2425[15:34:37] <mooon> Hey guys, i'm having trouble with
nvidia graphics on debian. I had a fresh debian install, i added
non-free and contrib repos and downloaded steam following
instructions here
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2426[15:34:46] <mooon> works but i says "No NVIDIA GPU
detected"
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2427[15:34:53] <Drzacek> rozie, I got ext4
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2428[15:35:02] <Drzacek> whats noatime
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2435[15:36:06] <abrotman> Drzacek: it's the default now I
think
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2436[15:36:09] <abrotman> Drzacek: man mount
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2438[15:37:21] <Drzacek> okay, I see what noatime is. Anyway to
check if it is set for my partitions?
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2440[15:38:26] <abrotman> Drzacek: cat /proc/mounts probably
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2441[15:38:34] <rozie> abrotman: relatime is default, IIRC
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2447[15:39:22] <rozie> mount | grep --color atime
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2449[15:40:53] <duelle> Hi, I am trying to install Debian jessie
on my dedicated server using dropbear to unlock the encrypted disks.
Is there any recent guide on that? Because I get some networking
errors when booting with dropbear. It seems the network devices are
not up when dropbear wants to acquire them..
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2453[15:43:03] <dury> teraflops, are u there
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2455[15:43:06] <duelle> This looks quite similar to what I am
experiencing:
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2457[15:44:03] <Drzacek> rozie, (rw, relatime) ?
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2461[15:44:40] <dury> teraflops, success about Xscrennsaver it
launches perfectly :-)
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2466[15:45:30] <rozie> Drzacek: I'd use noatime
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2467[15:45:56] <Drzacek> I edited /etc/fstab, added
",noatime" after defaults
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2469[15:46:17] <teraflops> dury: ah, nice
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2471[15:46:57] <dury> teraflops, -nosplash was the key, thank you
so much indeed... really appreciate your support and suggestions :-)
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2472[15:47:07] <teraflops> dury: np
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2473[15:47:41] <Guest81055> Is debian missing cgred service?
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2474[15:47:49] <Drzacek> rozie, ok, my /home got noatime, but I
got a lot of other records here (from mount), not sure what they are
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2483[15:49:49] <SaveTheRobots> duelle: sounds like you'd
need to add networking support, along with the modules for your NIC
to the initrd
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2485[15:50:11] <SaveTheRobots> afaik, initramfs-tools should be
capable as it can netboot
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2489[15:50:46] <SaveTheRobots> dracut might be a better choice
though, i think it has the necessary modules you need
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2490[15:51:14] <moldo> hello i m loooking for a mentor i have
some knowledge of linux but my dream is to be a system and network
admin and learning debian is a most
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2491[15:52:01] <SaveTheRobots> how much do you pay? :p
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2493[15:52:37] <duelle> SaveTheRobots: Even though I did not need
to add the module in my previous setup (wheezy) I will try to add
the NIC module explicitly. Do you know a good source for this dracut
thing? Never heard of it..
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2494[15:53:30] <moldo> SaveTheRobots, if i pay with flowers is it
fine ? :op
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2496[15:54:12] <SaveTheRobots> duelle:
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2500[15:54:25] <SaveTheRobots> here's probably a better
option
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2501[15:54:30] <abrotman> dpkg: tell moldo about reference
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2503[15:55:28] <SaveTheRobots> duelle: scratch dracut, it seems
it should be more than possible to do it in initramfs-tools (after
some quick googling)
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2504[15:55:38] <SaveTheRobots>
replaced-url
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2513[15:59:58] <_heimdall> #Ubuntu won't let me use root as
an account :C
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2514[16:00:18] <abrotman> why are you telling us?
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2516[16:00:36] <_heimdall> I don't know what to do, I hate
having to enter my password every second command.
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2517[16:00:49] <abrotman> _heimdall: why are you telling us?
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2518[16:00:50] <_heimdall> Especially since I'm using it as
a desktop OS.
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2519[16:00:56] <_heimdall> I don't know.
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2520[16:01:02] <abrotman> ok, please go whine elsewhere
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2521[16:01:08] <_heimdall> >:C
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2523[16:01:16] <_heimdall> Debian doesn't support efi boot!
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2524[16:01:32] <abrotman> yes, it does
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2525[16:01:43] <_heimdall> Really? With an efi boot partition?
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2528[16:02:52] <SaveTheRobots> _heimdall: yes. that's how i
boot
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2529[16:03:07] <_heimdall> But there was no such option in the
partition menu during install.
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2532[16:03:25] <abrotman> _heimdall: do you need help with Debian
or ubuntu?
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2533[16:04:16] <_heimdall> It would be nice if Debian had the efi
partition during the installer.
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2535[16:04:24] <helio> hi
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2536[16:04:28] <themill> _heimdall: it does.
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2537[16:04:36] <_heimdall> SInce when?
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2541[16:05:28] <moldo> ty abrotman !!
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2542[16:05:31] <abrotman> _heimdall: wheezy
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2544[16:05:41] <abrotman> so, five years?
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2545[16:05:42] <_heimdall> abortman, I contest that notion.
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2546[16:05:46] <abrotman> _heimdall: you're still wrong
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2547[16:05:57] <abrotman> sorry, three years
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2548[16:06:00] <helio> i can't understand some output from
fdisk -l neither fstab
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2549[16:06:00] <markybob> _heimdall: you're wrong
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2550[16:06:13] <helio> some help will be apreciated
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2551[16:06:28] <abrotman> helio: pastebin
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2554[16:06:32] <_heimdall> Even from a live USB installer?
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2556[16:06:39] <helio> abrotman: 1min
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2557[16:06:45] <abrotman> _heimdall: no idea .. who uses that?
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2558[16:07:12] <themill> _heimdall: you might like to decide
between "live" and "installer".
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2559[16:07:15] <_heimdall> People who hate buying optical disks
:|
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2560[16:08:12] <zykotick9> _heimdall: note, the live media does
NOT support UEFI... the install media DOES.
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2562[16:08:21] <markybob> _heimdall: he means you shouldn't
use live. regular install is the way to go
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2563[16:08:26] <_heimdall> Oh.
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2564[16:08:28] <_heimdall> so
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2565[16:08:28] <markybob> _heimdall: you can use regular with usb
as well
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2566[16:08:29] <_heimdall> ok
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2568[16:08:39] <_heimdall> Give me a screenshot then.
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2571[16:09:04] <themill> _heimdall: maybe it's time for you
to do your own research
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2572[16:09:06] <helio> abrotman:
replaced-url
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2573[16:09:12] <_heimdall> :C
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2579[16:09:57] <_heimdall> Okay it's there.
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2580[16:10:11] <_heimdall> And uh...
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2581[16:10:14] <_heimdall> nvidia drivers?
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2585[16:11:42] <helio> i need to know if it is fixable before
working in the OS general config
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2586[16:11:56] <_heimdall> I'm asking risking being flamed
since I remember attempts at installing nvidia drivers usually broke
my system.
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2587[16:13:03] <themill> _heimdall: you need to actually ask
questions.
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2590[16:14:13] <_heimdall> Is there a reliable method for
installing nvidia drivers?
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2591[16:14:39] <themill> dpkg: tell _heimdall about nvidia
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2595[16:15:33] <_heimdall> Oh, themill, it's so slow that
windows strobe when moved.
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2596[16:15:46] <themill> "it"?
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2597[16:15:51] <_heimdall> noveau
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2598[16:16:00] <_heimdall> nuvevau
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2599[16:16:01] <_heimdall> w/e
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2600[16:16:23] <themill> Feel free to read the remainder of what
dpkg said. You don't have to stop after 6 words.
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2603[16:16:49] <_heimdall> Very clever.
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2606[16:17:33] <abrotman> helio: no need to msg me, please keep
it in the channel
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2608[16:17:45] <helio> abrotman: ok
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2609[16:17:47] <abrotman> helio: that's an extended
partition
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2610[16:18:00] <abrotman> wikipedia can explain that
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2614[16:20:37] <helio> ok, now i know that extended reference...
but the numbers are dancing in the dark yet!
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2627[16:23:21] <helio> so the full HDD capacity is 1T and
/dev/sda point to 931.5GiB
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2629[16:24:24] <lokien> hey guys, I'm bying a new pc soon,
but my motherboard will have the Realtek RTL8111H ethernet card -
will it cause any problems now?
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2630[16:24:42] <lokien> I see it was problematic few years ago,
but I don't know about now
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2631[16:24:50] <helio> /dev/sda2 (extended) declare 923.1G and
home ../sda7 shows 912 !
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2636[16:26:37] <helio> abrotman: do you think that is normal?
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2639[16:27:58] <wewlad>
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2640[16:28:02] <wewlad> damn, wrong tab
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2642[16:28:14] <dvs> wewlad, grrr! ;-)
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2644[16:28:34] <SaveTheRobots> helio: hardware uses base-10 to
measure size, OS uses base-2, you then lose space because of
filesystem reserved blocks, etc
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2650[16:29:36] <helio> SaveTheRobots: Do you think that 69GiB is
for reserved blocks?
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2651[16:29:55] <markybob> 5% is default
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2654[16:31:45] <helio> have nobody any undertandable explanation,
plz?
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2655[16:31:53] <helio>
replaced-url
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2657[16:32:12] <SaveTheRobots> helio: like markybob said,
it's a percentage of the total size of the partition, 5% is
default afaik
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2659[16:32:40] <SaveTheRobots> if you have a 1TB partition, you
lose 50GB
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2660[16:32:52] <SaveTheRobots> you can change this when
formatting the partition
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2661[16:32:59] <markybob> the reason is so that a user can't
do something stupid, fill up the entire disk and lock out even root
from doing anything
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2662[16:33:51] <lokien> can anyone help me, please?
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2663[16:34:30] <SaveTheRobots> markybob: afaik, it's mainly
because of fragmentation, ext4 poops itself in terms of performance
when >95% full
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2705[16:59:06] <helio> partition 3 is not begining in the phisic
sector edge. What this means?
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2716[17:05:23] <hyper_ch> hi there, why is there a tzdata update
like every 2-3 weeks?
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2718[17:05:57] <Walex> all filesystems start to work pretty badly
with less than 10-20% free space. It is inevitable.
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2719[17:06:24] <Walex> hyper_ch: because it is a whole-world file
with a lot of little rules for every country.
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2721[17:06:51] <hyper_ch> but I doubt they keep altering the
tzdata all the time...
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2722[17:07:15] <themill> hyper_ch: they do as described in the
changelog
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2724[17:07:34] <dokk> hi
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2725[17:07:42] <dokk> So when I need a very old debian woody
docker image - how can I obtain it? :)
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2727[17:07:48] <jpalmer> hyper_ch: on the contrary, they are.
when a location decides what day they are going to honor daylight
savings time, and things of that nature.
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2728[17:07:48] <dokk> I know, this is exotic - but I need it
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2730[17:08:04] <dutchfish> dokk, debian archives
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2733[17:08:16] <dutchfish> !archives
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2735[17:08:16] <dpkg> [archive] a collection of files.
'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving
tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate
operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian
releases, see
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2737[17:08:21] <themill> dokk: you'll be making your own;
docker didn't exist when woody was a supported release
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2738[17:08:27] <jpalmer> dokk: you best bet is probably building
one yourself using debootstrap or similar.
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2740[17:08:41] <hyper_ch> jpalmer: don't they have fix rules
for DST?
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2743[17:09:03] <jpalmer> hyper_ch: not every place. as mentioned,
you can review the changelog
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2744[17:09:07] <dokk> jpalmer: ok, so I take the oldest existing
docker sample and adjust it to woody and hope for the best
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2747[17:09:31] <hyper_ch> jpalmer: :(
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2748[17:09:37] <jpalmer> dokk: I said nothing of the sort. I said
you'll likely need to build one yourself since woody is no
longer maintained.
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2749[17:10:03] <themill> hyper_ch: which "they" do you
think wouldn't change its mind from time to time? (Where are
you?)
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2754[17:10:47] <hyper_ch> themill: here it's been since
introduction of DST that it gets changed on last weekend in
march/oct
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2756[17:10:57] <dutchfish> dokk, i did it on old hardware and
virtualizing it later
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2757[17:11:00] <themill> hyper_ch: where is "here"?
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2760[17:11:22] <dutchfish> dokk, you cant run that old kernels
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2762[17:11:26] <hyper_ch> themill: switzerland
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2763[17:11:49] <themill> hyper_ch: so you'll know that the
"October" change used to be in September. Governments
change their minds.
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2765[17:12:03] <dokk> alright
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2766[17:12:04] <jpalmer> hyper_ch:
replaced-url
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2767[17:12:07] <dokk> so I need a full HVM
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2768[17:12:08] <dokk> thanks
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2769[17:12:11] <dokk> another thing though
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2770[17:12:21] <dokk> I also want to use Debian Squeeze - I also
need it for special stuff
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2771[17:12:26] <dokk> however, the apt mirror seems to be down
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2772[17:12:29] <dokk> :/
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2773[17:12:36] <themill> dokk: squeeze isn't on the mirrors
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2774[17:12:39] <hyper_ch> themill: when was it in september?
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2777[17:12:57] <themill> hyper_ch: up until 1996
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2779[17:12:58] <dutchfish> dokk, squeeze is no problem, but delve
in LTS
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2780[17:12:58] <dokk> themill: any alternative? e.g. I want to
install old stuff for it from apt?
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2781[17:13:01] <dokk> aha
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2782[17:13:02] <dokk> LTS
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2783[17:13:07] <themill> dpkg: tell dokk about archive
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2784[17:13:08] <dokk> and if I want a specific version that
existed at squeeze times?
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2785[17:13:14] <hyper_ch> themill: so once every 20 year
there's achange
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2786[17:13:20] <jpalmer> dokk: word of advice re: docker.
I'd strongly urge you to not get in the habit of using docker
to support unsupported software. It's just going to lead to a
world of hurt. Rather, I'd spend the effort to formulate a
migration strategy to a supported release.
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2787[17:13:22] <dutchfish> dokk, however suport for squeeze ended
there as well
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2788[17:13:27] <themill> hyper_ch: now multiply that by a couple
of hundred countries.
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2790[17:14:00] <themill> or just read the changelog.
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2791[17:14:15] <dutchfish> dokk, so far i am still running sarge,
lenny, squeeze and newer ones
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2793[17:14:35] <dutchfish> dokk, alas no more woody
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2795[17:15:04] <hyper_ch> themill: you know why it changed in
1996?
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2798[17:15:32] <themill> hyper_ch: to align with neighbouring
countries that had different dates iirc
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2799[17:15:56] <hyper_ch> the EU changed from sept to oct in 1996
and switzerland followed suit
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2803[17:16:37] <hyper_ch> gotte check apticron on how to exclude
tzdata
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2804[17:16:46] <loongson> I'm on debian sid on a loongson-3
cpu. All the packages are up to date as much as possible. The only
thing not debian yet is the kernel/initrd. These are still fc21.
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2805[17:17:05] <jpalmer> hyper_ch: realistically, it doesn't
matter "why" it changed, the fact is, it changed. and it
does frequently. hence the tzdata updates.
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2807[17:17:39] <loongson> cat /proc/cmdline has root=/dev/sdb1 ro
rhgb rd_start=0x85000000 rd_size=0xb394ee autoplug=off
e1000e.InterruptThrottleRate=4,4,4,4
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2810[17:18:36] <topi`> loongson, isn't that a MIPS
compatible CPU?
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2812[17:19:19] <topi`> is loongson-3 32 or 64 bit?
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2813[17:20:09] <topi`> loongson, I'm on 64-bit arm (aarch64)
and there's still a couple of packages needing some porting
effort. Chromium is the worst offender
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2815[17:21:32] <loongson> it's 64-bit most of the time, but
it could be running 32-bit stuff if you want just like intel stuff.
The first drive's first partitio has the fedora boot stuff:
/dev/sda1 has initramfs-4.1.15-2.fc21.loongson.3.mips64el.img and
vmlinuz-4.1.15-2.fc21.loongson.3.mips64el
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2816[17:22:00] <loongson> kexec -l
/boot/vmlinux-4.4.0-1-loongson-3 --append="root=/dev/sdb1 ro
rhgb rd_start=0x85000000 rd_size=0xb394ee autoplug=off
e1000e.InterruptThrottleRate=4,4,4,4"
--initrd=/boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-1-loongson-3
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2817[17:22:54] <loongson> I tried thsi command, but it
doesn't accept the --initrd switch in the mips64el version of
kexec. --initrd switch seems to only be an x86 allowed switch.
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2821[17:23:37] <loongson> The other thing is I noticed the newer
debian kernels and grub are very different from the older fc21 grub,
initrd and kernel.
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2823[17:24:38] <lokien> hey guys, I'm bying a new pc soon,
but my motherboard will have the Realtek RTL8111H ethernet card -
will it cause any problems now?
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2825[17:24:41] <loongson> I'm trying hard to get the 4.4
kernel running on loongson-3, but it isn't cooperating yet.
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2828[17:26:34] <loongson> lokien: what motherboard are you
getting exactly?
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2830[17:27:13] <lokien> loongson: msi h110i pro
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2831[17:27:14] <loongson> topi: yes it is a mips compatible cpu.
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2833[17:28:05] <jelly> loongson: there's a #debian-mips on
irc.oftc.net but it's pretty small
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2834[17:28:26] <loongson> thank you, I'll go there.
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2840[17:32:17] <lokien> loongson: any clue?
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2843[17:33:02] <loongson>
replaced-url
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2845[17:33:44] <lokien> yeah, that one
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2858[17:38:14] <loongson> The wired stuff seems to have fixes
done in 2010 using realtek 8168 drivers aka r8168
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2863[17:38:31] <ArminiusMATE> Buenos diaz
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2865[17:38:58] <socomm> Do you speak american?
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2867[17:39:10] <lokien> loongson: thank you very much :)
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2869[17:39:22] <jelly> that IS american, socomm
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2870[17:39:24] <teraflops> ArminiusMATE: Diaz is a surname ...I
bet you meant to say dias
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2871[17:39:38] <ArminiusMATE> No sadly that tongue died 500 years
ago when the euros arrived ...
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2874[17:39:56] <loongson> lokien: not done yet.
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2875[17:40:15] <ArminiusMATE> teraflops: muchas gracias por la
correction!
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2876[17:40:18] <socomm> ArminiusMATE: Was that before the asians
crossed Bering Strait?
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2877[17:40:21] <teraflops> ArminiusMATE: de nada
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2878[17:40:25] <loongson> I'm looking for the ko file you
need to load or look for specifically and where it should be on your
hard-drive.
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2880[17:40:44] <socomm> Correccion, pendejo!
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2881[17:40:59] <lokien> loongson: ah, okay
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2883[17:41:49] <ArminiusMATE> So after all ethnic heritages have
been staked ... maybe its time for a technical question
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2885[17:41:55] <teraflops> heh
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2888[17:42:08] <ArminiusMATE> Anyone running Debian on PPC?
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2890[17:42:16] <socomm> ArminiusMATE: NOPE!
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2892[17:42:23] <socomm> No one.
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2893[17:43:06] <ArminiusMATE> socomm: Only in the New World or
globally? ;-)
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2895[17:43:39] <socomm> Didn't IBM sell off the PPC
architecture?
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2897[17:44:09] <ArminiusMATE> Really to whom ?
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2898[17:44:20] <bazhang> !powerpc
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2899[17:44:20] <dpkg> PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (replaced-url
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2900[17:44:30] <bazhang> ArminiusMATE, ^
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2901[17:44:34] <teraflops> ArminiusMATE: sure someone do, I did
time ago in a power G5
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2904[17:45:32] <socomm>
replaced-url
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2906[17:46:04] <ArminiusMATE> Well the feeling on a PowerG5 with
Ubuntu is great, much faster than on MacOS and no surfing hickups.
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2907[17:46:21] <socomm> From what I remember IBM sold off most
(all) of its hardware arms. They're in the software game now.
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2909[17:46:31] <loongson> lokien: /lib/modules/...r8188eu.ko and
r8152.ko should be good to modprobe or insmod with.
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2911[17:46:58] <teraflops> ArminiusMATE: out of curiosity what
gpu are you using there?
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2914[17:47:19] * shingouz wonders idly what all this PPC and IBM
speculation has to do with debian support
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2915[17:47:26] <lokien> loongson: ty again
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2916[17:47:40] <ArminiusMATE> socomm: Only follwogin AMD, who
also solds their fabs to the arabs, imho a decision with long
lasting ramifications
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2918[17:47:56] <socomm> fabs?
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2919[17:48:06] <zinx> ArminiusMATE: they're also licensing
out x86 now, though..
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2920[17:48:17] <socomm> zinx: Ha, I saw that.
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2923[17:48:40] <ArminiusMATE> shingouz: Interesting question,
felt that too many kids are hanging aroudn the ubuntu channels so I
picked this place - I hope you dont mind ...
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2924[17:48:46] <zinx> socomm: tbqh i think it can only be good
for us ;)
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2926[17:49:01] <ArminiusMATE> zinx: isnt x86 INtel's baby ?
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2927[17:49:04] <zinx> Intel will probably be mad though, might
reneg on patent agreements
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2928[17:49:15] <shingouz> ArminiusMATE: actually we do. this all
clogs up the channel for real support issues. please take this to
#debian-offtopic
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2930[17:49:19] <zinx> ArminiusMATE: yes, but amd64 (also called
x86-64) is AMD's creation
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2933[17:49:43] <loongson> lokien: out of the box with a new
version of debian aka 8.4 or debian sid, it should just detect and
load it. If not, you can just login as root and do "modprobe
rtl8188eu" or "insmod rtl8188eu". You shouldn't
have to since it will autodetect what modules you need when the
kernel boots up.
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2935[17:50:21] <zinx> that driver may require firmware - dmesg
will show a message about missing firmware if you don't have it
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2936[17:50:31] <ArminiusMATE> shingouz: For my defence, not
actually though It might be needed, the problem I am having is with
YABOOT afaik a DEBIAN child.
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2939[17:51:05] <zinx> ArminiusMATE: we can't really help
much with debian derivatives, esp. since one of the things they most
commonly change is the boot process.
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2941[17:51:15] <loongson> apt-cache search "realtek"
gives : firmware-realtek - Binary firmware for Realtek wired/wifi/BT
adapters r8168-dkms - dkms source for the r8168 network driver. Make
sure to install these and you should be good.
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2945[17:51:51] <shingouz> ArminiusMATE: you really should go over
to #debianppc in that case
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2946[17:51:55] <zinx> ArminiusMATE: and kernel modules / firmware
packages :)
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2949[17:52:18] <shingouz> oh. i forgot. it is sunday
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2950[17:52:19] <ArminiusMATE> ahh thanks for the hing - off I go
then - happy hibernation to all ;-)
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2951[17:52:22] * shingouz mooches off
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2952[17:52:34] <zinx> shingouz: permasunday
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2953[17:52:47] <loongson> lokien: apt-get install
firmware-realtek r8168-dkms
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2956[17:53:31] <shingouz> zinx: and dpkg has conveniently forgot
a nice little ditty about sundays. i'll be off again, ta-ta
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2964[17:56:11] <wallbroken> hello
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2965[17:56:16] <wallbroken> how to enable upnp on debian?
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2966[17:56:35] <wallbroken> (client)
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2968[17:57:12] <lokien> loongson: I'll use it for sure. too
bad you've quit before I noticed :(
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2969[17:58:17] <hiya> anyone using and happy with testing/sid
here?
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2970[17:58:46] <teraflops> wallbroken: depends on the client.
Also enable on the client side sounds weird.
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2973[17:59:17] <hiya> anyone using and happy with Debian
testing/sid here? I moved to Fedora 23 today annd am totally tired
of how SELinux works, kindly help me get back to home (Debian)
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2974[17:59:27] <teraflops> wallbroken: so describe the real issue
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2975[17:59:40] <Drzacek_> Hi. I just configured my debian machine
to IPv6 (dhcp). After reebot ifconfig shows ipv6 address for eth0 -
but it can't ping anything (is this normal)?
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2976[17:59:59] <Dagger> Drzacek_: using `ping6`?
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2978[18:00:14] <Drzacek_> Dagger, of course not, since I never
heard of it
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2981[18:00:49] <Dagger> ping/ping6 are (finally) merged in sid.
jessie still has the silly split
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2982[18:01:09] <Drzacek> I tried ping6 google.com - unknown host
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2983[18:01:17] <teraflops> Dagger: are you doing dhcp+RA ?
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2986[18:02:44] <Dagger> Drzacek: hm. can you try `ping6 2600::`
and `ping6 he.net`?
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2987[18:02:48] <teraflops> Drzacek: I.meant can you ping by ip?
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2990[18:03:13] <SaveTheRobots> hiya: i'm running unstable
atm, very happily ;)
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2991[18:03:17] <Dagger> (the first to test for v6 connectivity,
the second to see if non-Google domains work -- Google maintain, or
used to maintain, an AAAA blacklist for some ISPs)
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2992[18:03:22] <Drzacek> ping6 2600:: works (I assume it is ipv6
equivalent of 127.0.0.1?)
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2994[18:03:33] <Dagger> although: you're connected to
freenode over v6, so I guess it's working
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2995[18:03:34] <SaveTheRobots> and you can disable selinux with
'setenforce 0' and setting SETENFORCE in
/etc/defaults/selinux (i think)
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2996[18:03:59] <Dagger> Drzacek: localhost is ::1. 2600:: is
replaced-url
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2997[18:04:06] <Drzacek> Dagger, ping6 he.net - unknown host
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2998[18:04:26] <socomm> Drzacek: Do you have DNS set up?
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3000[18:04:43] <socomm> Drzacek: You can obviously hit IPv6
address but no DNS names.
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3001[18:04:44] <Dagger> does `ping he.net` work? (i.e. is your
DNS still working at all)
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3002[18:04:52] <teraflops> Drzacek: try to ping 2001:470:6b1c::1
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3003[18:04:59] <wallbroken> teraflops, i have installed
"amule" and i need to open ports for it trought upnp
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3004[18:05:00] <teraflops> That's my ip
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3006[18:05:25] <teraflops> wallbroken: enable it on your router
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3007[18:05:39] <wallbroken> yes i've done
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3008[18:05:39] <Drzacek> socomm, I just did dhcp of ipv6, I
didn't specified any dns
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3009[18:05:45] <wallbroken> but maybe isn't enought
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3010[18:05:51] <socomm> Drzacek: There you go.
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3011[18:05:53] <wallbroken> i need some component/library on OS
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3012[18:06:10] <hiya> SaveTheRobots, ok, is it stable? lol Should
I go with Testing or unstable?
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3013[18:06:15] <Drzacek> looks like it ping6s IP addresses
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3015[18:07:22] <teraflops> Drzacek: then add a ipv6 nameserver to
your resolve.conf
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3016[18:07:32] <Drzacek> teraflops, I'm on it
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3017[18:07:41] <teraflops> Fuckin phone
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3018[18:07:43] <teraflops> Sorry
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3021[18:08:41] <Dagger> a v6 nameserver isn't neccessary to
look up AAAA records
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3022[18:08:41] <SaveTheRobots> hiya: depends on your definition
of "stable" ;).. stable is "stable", testing is
pretty stable, unstable _can be_ unstable
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3023[18:08:50] <hammo> hey hey, anyone got a good recent guide to
setting up ssh rsa keys for login? did some googling but only found
guides 2+years old?
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3025[18:08:53] <SaveTheRobots> if you're a noob then you
should stick to stable and backports really, or testing at max
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3026[18:08:58] <Dagger> you do need *a* nameserver though, v4 or
v6
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3027[18:10:07] <teraflops> Dagger: indeed you explained it better
than me
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3028[18:10:36] <Drzacek> Can I get away with only ipv6? Or do I
also need ipv4 configured so I can browse internet?
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3029[18:11:08] <hiya> SaveTheRobots, ok then I would go with
testing, where can I download testing?
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3030[18:11:18] <teraflops> Drzacek: dual stack is better but not
an obligation
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3031[18:11:26] <Dagger> Drzacek: for the most part, you need v4
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3035[18:12:01] <Dagger> (you can use DNS64+NAT64, but that's
usually more effort than just doing v4 with NAT44)
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3039[18:12:58] <Drzacek> what do I miss without v4?
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3041[18:13:02] <teraflops> Drzacek: there are browser extensions
so you can see if you're doing ipv4 or v6
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3042[18:13:30] <teraflops> Drzacek: a lot of sites don't do
ipv6
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3044[18:14:27] <teraflops> Drzacek for email servers is even
worse
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3045[18:14:47] <Drzacek> okay
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3046[18:14:47] <hammo> btw teraflops that issue I had with ipv4
add not being assigned via editing /etc/network/interfaces then
ifdown/up. = reboot all works. ip assigned as per net/interfaces. i
tried even restarting network serrvice didnt apply changes. still
doesnt. need reboot to apply changes to interfaces conf file
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3051[18:15:44] <teraflops> hammo: ah. OK.
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3060[18:19:35] <teraflops> hammo: anyway I believe ifup/down the
proper interface works too
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3065[18:20:29] <hammo> proper interface?
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3066[18:20:50] <teraflops> The correct one. Sorry
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3075[18:24:16] <BenderRodriguez> is it possible to selectively
ignore dependency checcks on certain packages
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3076[18:24:21] <BenderRodriguez> when install .deb archives?
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3079[18:25:06] <hammo> i can edit /etc/network/interfaces then
up/down or restart network service and get no change at all, but
reboot pc applies changes correctly? how can I trouble shoot why
this is happening?
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3082[18:26:25] <Drzacek> Sooo. I got Ipv6, that seems to be
public address, so I don't need any port forwarding on my
router, to ssh on it. But how about http serwer? Will I be able to
open website on my serwer from "outside" with only ipv6?
If I get ipv4, I only get local address in my lan, without port
forwarding ability.
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3086[18:27:05] <antihistaminesop> hammo: Mind pasting the
interfaces file?
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3089[18:28:08] <antihistaminesop> Drzacek: yes you can.
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3091[18:28:40] <Drzacek> but anyone without ipv6 won't be
able to connect?
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3092[18:29:09] <hammo>
replaced-url
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3093[18:29:22] <antihistaminesop> Drzacek: unless they use an
ipv6 proxy so no they can't
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3096[18:29:59] <Drzacek> any way around this?
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3098[18:30:22] <hammo> i can manually change with ifconfig
commands but just not using interfaces file....
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3099[18:30:30] <antihistaminesop> Drzacek: Around wat?
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3101[18:30:33] <hammo> without reboot
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3102[18:30:52] <TomTomTosch> Drzacek: a proxy with dual stack.
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3103[18:31:17] <Drzacek> so no way around it :D
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3105[18:31:33] <Drzacek> okay, I just have to make sure I always
use ipv6 machine
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3107[18:31:56] <antihistaminesop> hammo: Lan0? Wan0?...
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3108[18:33:26] <hammo> renamed em using /dev makes life easier
then eth0 1 2
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3113[18:33:47] <hammo> didnt work before I renamed interfaces
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3114[18:34:03] <antihistaminesop> hammo: no clue then. You are
messing with udev
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3118[18:35:31] <hammo> apparently thats a recommended step to
stop eth0 becoming eth1 which can happen after kernal updates etc??
is this not good idea?
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3125[18:38:16] <Dagger> Drzacek: welcome to why we're doing
v6 in the first place
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3130[18:40:16] <Drzacek> don't think I follow. I know that
we need to switch someday, but it is huge pain for me right now.
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3136[18:41:11] <Dagger> well, you could just use v4. except,
wait... you can't. because we're out of v4
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3137[18:41:15] <Dagger> which is why we're doing v6
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3140[18:42:08] <antihistaminesop> Drzacek: a huge pain is the nat
nonsense or the prices you pay for an ipv4 block
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3148[18:47:46] <Drzacek> okay, I added dns servers (google) to
/etc/resolv.conf and /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, but still I get
unknown host
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3153[18:48:54] <antihistaminesop> Drzacek: what did you exactly
add?
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3157[18:49:31] <Drzacek> nameserver 2001:4860:4860:8888 and the
same with :8844
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3158[18:49:38] <Drzacek> in resolv.conf
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3160[18:50:10] <antihistaminesop> Hmm
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3161[18:50:12] <Drzacek> prepend domain-name-servers
2001:4860:4860:8888; in dhclient.conf
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3162[18:50:30] <Drzacek> after changing resolv.conf - reboot. I
didn't restart after changing dhclient
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3171[18:55:53] <dontknow> trying to install unity is calling for
trouble?
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3174[18:57:37] <TomTomTosch> yes.
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3175[18:57:53] <Myrtti> which Unity?
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3176[18:58:04] <dontknow> i tried ubuntu 16.04 and i liked it
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3178[18:58:10] <dontknow> Myrtti, ubuntus unity
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3180[18:58:25] <Myrtti> then why don't you use Ubuntu :-)
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3182[18:59:36] <dontknow> Myrtti, one of the reason is that it is
non free
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3185[19:00:05] <dontknow> and i don't trust canonical and
ubuntu is spyware
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3187[19:00:36] <dontknow> it is a for profit corp.
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3188[19:00:36] <Myrtti> ooookay
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3189[19:01:06] <jmcnaught> dontknow: from what i understand unity
depends on a patched version of GTK to allow the menus to be placed
at the top of the screen, so this is why it is not available in
Debian. If you and others want to compare distros ##linux is
probably a better place for that.
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3192[19:02:04] <dontknow> jmcnaught, i see. thanks for
explanation
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3194[19:02:13] <dontknow> then it is calling for a trouble
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3202[19:04:06] <dontknow> ubuntu was buggy though
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3205[19:04:20] <dontknow> 16.04
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3223[19:07:23] <dontknow> Myrtti, also ubuntu doesn't
support their universe repos which most of the packages there
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3225[19:09:27] <moha> Hi. I have installed
emacs24-common-non-dfsg on Debian Testing but still cannot access
'About GNU' in GNU Emacs.
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3228[19:09:48] <eneon> Hi, one of my filesystem in /etc/fstab has
suid and user=replaced-url
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3229[19:09:54] <KobraLocke> htop recently upgraded and now
mem/swap usage is displayed in GB instead of MB. Anyone know how to
change it back to the original behaviour? This is unacceptable as it
is.
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3232[19:10:20] <KobraLocke> I don't want to see 1.4Gb of mem
usage, I want to see xxxxMB
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3252[19:17:22] <Drzacek> who could habe thought - google ipv6 dns
didn't work. Thank god for opendns
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3253[19:17:53] <Dagger> ...oh, I see why
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3254[19:17:56] <Dagger> 2001:4860:4860:8888 isn't a valid
address
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3257[19:18:07] <Drzacek> damn
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3258[19:18:13] <Drzacek> I missed one : didn't I?
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3259[19:18:16] <Dagger> (it's 2001:4860:4860::8888)
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3260[19:18:17] <Dagger> yeah
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3263[19:18:44] <Drzacek> well, since before today all I know
about ipv6 was that I shouldn't touch it, I could be forgiven
for that
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3265[19:19:06] <rgr> but not big shotting it here and basically
saying google's engineers are useless.
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3270[19:19:29] <jmcnaught> KobraLocke: still showing MB for me
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3274[19:19:56] <KobraLocke> jmcnaught: seems to be showing MB for
low numbers and crawls to GB after reaching 1GB
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3276[19:20:12] <Drzacek> rgr, thats not what I said
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3278[19:20:35] <KobraLocke> MEM showing 1.22G/1.97G, and Swap
showing 60.6M/1.99G
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3281[19:20:49] <KobraLocke> I have no idea why anyone would want
it to be displayed like this.
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3283[19:21:04] <jmcnaught> KobraLocke: did this happen on Jessie?
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3284[19:21:12] <KobraLocke> I'm using testing.
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3285[19:21:29] <Johntitor> Drzacek: ah still issues? try to
trobleshoot, you can ping ipv6 right? can you e.g `sudo traceroute6
-d 2001:4860:4860::8888` ?
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3287[19:21:50] <jmcnaught> KobraLocke: ahh.. well things change
on testing. you could check the man page to see if there's a
new option or something, or maybe people in #debian-next on
irc.oftc.net know something
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3288[19:22:15] <KobraLocke> jmcnaught: nothing in the man page
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3289[19:22:18] <Drzacek> Johntitor, no, I corrected my dns
entries in resolv.conf, and it seems that I can ping normal
addresses now
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3290[19:22:41] <Johntitor> Drzacek: ah
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3292[19:23:13] <Drzacek> so if I want to add ipv4, I need to
configure another interface eth0, or does ipv4 and ipv6 belong to
single interface?
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3293[19:23:21] <Drzacek> eth1*
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3294[19:23:35] <Johntitor> Drzacek: who is your ipv6 provider?
your isp?
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3295[19:23:42] <Drzacek> unitymedia
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3298[19:24:52] <Johntitor> ah im not aware of how you do dual
stack with ISP provider
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3301[19:25:09] <Drzacek> okay, so I dont get ipv4
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3302[19:25:22] <Drzacek> it is still so confusing
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3303[19:25:23] <Johntitor> Drzacek: I do he.net tunnelbroker my
ISP still does not do ipv6
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3304[19:25:36] <Drzacek> my does only ipv6
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3305[19:25:40] <Johntitor> Drzacek: idk about your isp sorry
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3307[19:25:51] <Drzacek> Johntitor, it's ok
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3308[19:26:15] <Johntitor> Drzacek: no ipv4 connectivity? you
already checked?
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3309[19:26:17] <jmcnaught> KobraLocke: looks like stretch is
using htop 2.0, you could look up changelogs for the package and on
the upstream site
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3315[19:28:18] <Johntitor> Drzacek: you can have an ipv4 and ipv6
for the same interface though
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3316[19:29:21] <Johntitor> Drzacek: e.g
replaced-url
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3318[19:29:53] <Drzacek> ok
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3326[19:37:18] <Drzacek> does all debian repositories accept ipv6
connections?
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3329[19:38:44] <TomTomTosch> you can check here:
replaced-url
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3335[19:40:24] <Drzacek> okay
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3345[19:42:18] <Drzacek> I'm trying to install
mariadb-client/server, but it says it has unmet dependencies:
mariadb-client : depends: mariadb-client-10.0. Looks like some
logical error to me
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3347[19:43:04] <jmcnaught> !bat
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3348[19:43:04] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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3349[19:43:13] <jmcnaught> Drzacek: can you do the above please?
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3353[19:44:24] <Drzacek> jmcnaught, gonna be hard, not sure how I
should copy output
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3363[19:47:27] <Drzacek> I have an idea, I ssh to it and copy
from terminal
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3368[19:48:33] <Drzacek>
replaced-url
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3369[19:48:36] <jmcnaught> Drzacek: the pastebinit factoid that
dpkg messaged to you shows how to use the pastebinit command
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3375[19:53:00] <Johntitor> KobraLocke: I asked myself the same,
afaik it's coreutils fault not htop itself
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3379[19:53:36] <TomTomTosch> Drzacek: need the rest of the
information too.
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3381[19:54:13] <KobraLocke> Johntitor: I haven't seen you
since 2028! How you doing? Also, seems to be coreutils update
according to a bug report I seen somebody filed
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3382[19:54:18] <jmcnaught> Drzacek: and please stop using
pastebin.com, it shows adds, often requires a CAPTCHA, and is
generally unfriendly to browsers
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3383[19:54:36] <KobraLocke> But the dev also said this was
intended feature in a different bug report
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3384[19:54:37] <Johntitor> KobraLocke: yeah Im bussy time travels
sucks :P
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3385[19:54:38] <Drzacek> jmcnaught, oh, didn't know. Any
better alternative?
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3386[19:54:47] <Drzacek> TomTomTosch, I'm almost done
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3387[19:54:55] <Johntitor> KobraLocke: from htop 2.0 man page
replaced-url
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3388[19:55:02] <jmcnaught> Drzacek: the one mentioned in the !bat
factoid ;)
replaced-url
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3390[19:55:30] <Johntitor> KobraLocke: mind sharing those links?
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3395[19:56:43] <KobraLocke>
replaced-url
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3396[19:56:44] <Drzacek>
replaced-url
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replaced-url
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replaced-url
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3404[19:58:40] <jmcnaught> Drzacek: seems like you are missing
lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list. You could make a paste of
yours, or edit yours to make it look like the example on this page:
replaced-url
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3406[19:59:13] <Johntitor> KobraLocke: thanks
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3407[19:59:33] <Drzacek>
replaced-url
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3410[20:01:01] <jmcnaught> Drzacek: yes, you only have the
security and updates, not the primary jessie repository. see the
example in the wiki link that i sent you, make your look like that
one
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3418[20:03:13] <bodom> Hi there! does anybody know a way/software
to get a list of all manually installed packages (exluding
"auto"?) I would like to review it and clean my system
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3421[20:04:21] <Drzacek> jmcnaught, that helped. It installs now
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3435[20:09:31] <jmcnaught> bodom: "apt-mark showmanual"
or "aptitude search '~i~poptional!~M'" are two
ways i can think of
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3442[20:12:50] <jmcnaught> bodom: the apt-mark command will also
show stuff that is essential, and stuff in the important, required
and standard priorities that you most likely want to keep. anyways
be careful while removing stuff, check the proposed list of changes
carefully before saying yes. if you're not constrained for
space having some extra packages lying around isn't so bad
compared to accidentally removing your desktop en
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3444[20:12:56] <jmcnaught> viroment
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3447[20:14:15] <bodom> jmcnaught: thank you! I'll be
careful, I promise. It's not only about space: it's also
about bandwidth for updating unneeded software every time
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3451[20:17:19] <kenny_ken> Hello guys :)
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3453[20:17:51] <kenny_ken> I have a question. I have a debian
jessie server running, which runs a minecraft gameserver (java).
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3454[20:18:17] <kenny_ken> I started the server yesterday by
using a new screen instance, then starting the .jar file.
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3456[20:19:15] <kenny_ken> When I connect via ssh now, I see that
the gameserver is still running, but I have no clue how to
"switch" to thar process, so that I see the information
from the server (the command jobs doesn't show anything)
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3457[20:20:20] <kenny_ken> I tried fg *pid* but I get a "no
such job" error :(
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3458[20:20:45] <TomTomTosch> kenny_ken: screen -ls to list screen
sessions and screen -r <id> to reattach
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3459[20:21:00] <kenny_ken> :o Thank you, I forgot about that
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3461[20:21:41] <TomTomTosch> no problem. have fun.
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3465[20:23:15] <kenny_ken> hm ... screen -ls showed me two
instances, but both were not the ones I searched for.
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3470[20:25:38] <awwal> How to check available updates via cli
without administrator permission?
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3471[20:25:40] <jmcnaught> kenny_ken: you tried reattaching to
each one to check?
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3474[20:26:18] <kenny_ken> yes, it worked with the first screen
session
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3478[20:27:00] <holst> I downloaded the latest netinst image
(amd64) and it tells me there is no kernel available in the APT
sources. any ideas whats going on here and how I can fix it?
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3479[20:27:17] <kenny_ken> but when I tried to reattach the
second one I get this error message:
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3480[20:27:19] <jmcnaught> kenny_ken: is this minecraft process
interactive in any way? if not it would be more sensible to make a
systemd service unit that starts the minecraft server
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3481[20:27:26] <awwal> aptitude search '~U'
doesn't do the job
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3482[20:27:30] <kenny_ken>
replaced-url
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3484[20:27:37] <awwal> even as user or root
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3485[20:28:03] <kenny_ken> the server is interactive, it has a
output which shows me some information about players joining and so
on.
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3486[20:28:12] <jmcnaught> awwal: what about "apt list
--upgradable" ?
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3487[20:28:19] <TomTomTosch> holst: please post your the command
plus output to paste.debian.net
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3489[20:28:42] <kenny_ken> ahh :) I got it!
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3491[20:28:55] <kenny_ken> After reattaching it I have to switch
to it (obviously) :o
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3492[20:29:11] <kenny_ken> embarrasing, but thanks anyway!
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3493[20:29:15] <holst> TomTomTosch: there is no explicit command
I'm just running the installer from a usb install with default
formatting (with separate /home partition)
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3494[20:29:17] <awwal> jmcnaught, good. problem solved
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3495[20:29:30] <holst> looks like its this bug that has regressed
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3497[20:29:33] <holst>
replaced-url
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3499[20:29:34] <awwal> but apt manual doesn't talk about
that
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3500[20:29:35] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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3503[20:30:05] <jmcnaught> kenny_ken: i prefer to reattach to
screen with "screen -DR" which will force a logout of the
last terminal that attached (see the screen man page for details)
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3504[20:30:23] <kenny_ken> Cool, thanks for the hint
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3506[20:30:56] <jmcnaught> holst: what do you mean by
"latest netinst image"? jessie? stretch?
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3507[20:31:27] <awwal> I was wrong, excuses, yes man apt talks
about that; i just missed it :P
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3510[20:33:20] <holst> jmcnaught: jessie; latest stable
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3511[20:33:38] <holst> debian-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso
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