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4[00:01:15] <danielh1234> wallbroken: how much RAM does your
VM have?
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17[00:04:16] <wallbroken> danielh1234 my PC has 6 gb ram
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18[00:04:38] <wallbroken> my vm has 1024 mb
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19[00:05:41] <pav> wallbroken: did the VM booted from CD?
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20[00:05:55] <pav> or just got kernel panic
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21[00:05:57] <wallbroken> pav, yes
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22[00:05:58] <wallbroken>
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29[00:08:07] <pav> wallbroken: looks like misconfigured VM. Did
you choose defaul settings for VM?
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32[00:09:43] <wallbroken> pav, yes
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36[00:12:13] <pav> I'm not an VirtualBox expert, used it
years ago. Have had no problems installing from netinst x64 on
Hyper-V or VMware
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37[00:12:15] <danielh1234> wallbroken: defaults for
'Debian (x64)' in category 'Linux' right?
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38[00:12:28] <wallbroken> no
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39[00:12:31] <wallbroken> there isn't
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40[00:12:38] <wallbroken> only 32bit config
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41[00:12:41] <wallbroken> of all OS
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42[00:12:46] <pav> oh
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43[00:12:57] <pav> That is a problem
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44[00:12:57] <wallbroken> and the image is 32bit too
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45[00:13:11] <wallbroken> i386 image, right?
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49[00:13:27] <danielh1234> didn't you write netinst x64?
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50[00:13:37] <wallbroken> no
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51[00:13:46] <wallbroken> oh yes
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52[00:13:52] <wallbroken> i'm dumb, sorry
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53[00:13:56] <pav> :)
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55[00:14:04] <pav> we all are sometimes
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56[00:14:45] <danielh1234> ok, just a shot in the dark, but try
toggling the PAE feature in System tab
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57[00:14:55] <pav> glad we help you wit this one wallbroken :)
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58[00:14:58] <mackaw> speaking of all this talk of vm's
does anyone know how to get .ova to work in Virtual Machine Manager?
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59[00:15:02] <wallbroken> that's virtualbox 64 bit, config
at 32 with guest image at 32 bit
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60[00:15:16] <danielh1234> which should work afaik
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61[00:16:08] <wallbroken> no luck :\
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62[00:16:26] <wallbroken> maybe it's my cpu fault
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63[00:16:29] <wallbroken> it's a "shit"
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66[00:17:05] <pav> what model of cpu you have wallbroken ?
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67[00:17:31] <pav> maybe is just some BIOS option
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68[00:17:59] <wallbroken>
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69[00:18:04] <danielh1234> as for cpu problems you could
temporirlt try disabling everything in System => Acceleration, it
will be very slow but could help track down the problem.
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70[00:18:07] <mackaw> yeah it could be bios
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71[00:18:31] <mackaw> some have a setting for enabling
virtualization on the bios
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72[00:18:36] <wallbroken> acceleration tab is grayed out
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78[00:20:52] <danielh1234> maybe check for Vt-x in BIOS
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81[00:22:47] <pav> for some reasons Vt-x is sometimes disabled
by default
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82[00:23:19] <wallbroken> my bios is a strange bios
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83[00:23:26] <wallbroken> is called "insydeh20"
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85[00:23:40] <wallbroken> and has poor options to be enabled by
the user
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86[00:23:49] <n-iCe> Ok Debian netinstall is installed, i used
iwconfig to connect to my wifi
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88[00:24:03] <n-iCe> But ping is not worked and iwconfigs show
all ok
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89[00:24:17] <n-iCe> Any idea
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91[00:24:29] <n-iCe> Working
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92[00:24:33] <mackaw> insydehh20?
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93[00:24:42] <teraflops> n-iCe: iwconfig does not handle ip
addresses or routes
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94[00:25:11] <n-iCe> Dhclient does?
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95[00:25:12] <teraflops> n-iCe: it does not even manage wpa by
itself
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96[00:25:28] <n-iCe> What can I use then
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97[00:25:57] <teraflops> n-iCe: whatever you want but
definitely not iwconfig
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98[00:26:07] <n-iCe> Tell me what else
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99[00:26:10] <n-iCe> I need wifi
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100[00:26:15] <n-iCe> System shows like is connected
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101[00:26:19] <danielh1234> n-iCe: the easy way would be
network-manager, provided you can install the packages (ethernet
cable / CD)
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102[00:26:21] <n-iCe> Sent dhclient wlan0
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104[00:26:35] <teraflops> n-iCe:
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105[00:26:47] <n-iCe> I dont even have a desktop
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106[00:27:14] <n-iCe> Im in command line
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107[00:27:33] <danielh1234> n-iCe: there's nmtui-connect
(NetworkManager)
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108[00:27:40] <n-iCe> What?
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110[00:28:38] <teraflops> n-iCe: you perform the same effort
reading here (irc) than reading the link I posted above
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113[00:29:41] <n-iCe> Great help
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114[00:29:44] <n-iCe> I found it
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115[00:29:45] <n-iCe> Thanks
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116[00:29:48] <teraflops> np
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117[00:30:02] <n-iCe> Ifup wlan0
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118[00:30:07] <n-iCe> Was all I needed
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128[00:36:08] <wallbroken> VT-x is enabled
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132[00:38:20] <danielh1234> wallbroken: and was before as well I
presume? What is your host OS? Windows? Some Linux?
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135[00:39:11] <wallbroken> danielh1234, solved
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136[00:39:38] <wallbroken> i rebooted the laptop, and magically,
acceleration tab appeared, and now is working good
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137[00:40:12] <danielh1234> Ok, good to hear :)
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138[00:40:13] <wallbroken> is easy to install guest additions?
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140[00:41:09] <danielh1234> usually yes, just remember to
install linux-headers-something
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141[00:41:54] <danielh1234> and maybe other packages that it
complains about, or better yet try the guest additions from the
Debian repos first
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144[00:43:02] <wallbroken> they are installed by default?
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153[00:45:05] <danielh1234> no, but there are packages
available, try `apt install virtualbox-guest-dkms
virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11`
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155[00:46:28] <kolnpole> how can i make two users use sound
simultaneously on one sound put put , like i run game from one user
and open yourtube via other user
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157[00:47:05] <kolnpole> i usally use root and when i need to
run games i run them via differnt user with gksu
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158[00:47:21] <missmbob> virtualbox is now outside of debian.
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159[00:47:51] <kolnpole> if i run chrome u cant hear any thing
cuz the other user by which i am running game is outputting sound
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161[00:48:26] <danielh1234> kolnpole: are you using pulseaudio?
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162[00:48:32] <kolnpole> yes
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165[00:50:57] <danielh1234> kolnpole: then you can either run it
as a system daemon instead of per user or allow usage via
module-native-protocol-{unix,tcp} see
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168[00:52:38] <danielh1234> kolnpole: btw it may be a good idea
to run not only games as a non-root user, especially since you
mentioned YouTube which probably implies a web browser.
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172[00:53:25] <jasonwc> Why is Firefox on version 52.2 ESR in
Jessie but still 45.9 ESR in Stretch?
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175[00:54:22] <missmbob> stretch is frozen
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195[01:01:51] <jasonwc> missmbob, So, it'll update after
release?
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197[01:02:59] <missmbob> it'll update. so close to release
it might be before. but it will update
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199[01:05:34] <jasonwc> I'm having an issue (documented
here -
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205[01:07:44] <kolnpole> danielh1234, sure
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216[01:10:54] <danielh1234> jasonwc: using i915 but sometimes my
autoconfigured DP1-8 only wants to work with '--crtc 2'
after a while. Does the primary monitor show up in xrandr at least
when it's not visible in the GUI tools?
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221[01:15:40] <jasonwc> danielh1234, That's a good point. I
didn't think to check xandr before. This is what it outputs now
(with both monitors working):
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223[01:16:14] <jasonwc> Both monitors are connected via DP but
the one that doesn't come back is using G-Sync (on regardless
of driver setting) and 144Hz refresh
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224[01:17:16] <jasonwc> Next time this occurs, I'll check
xandr. It's somewhat annoying to troubleshoot because it has to
go to sleep for a while. If I go to sleep and wake in a few minutes.
I thought it had something to do with the monitor going to sleep but
I don't think turning the monitor off helps.
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227[01:18:52] <danielh1234> jasonwc: when it's dead again
but still shows up in xrandr, try to turn it --off first, then for
example --auto, and if that does not help retry with the --crtc
option.
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228[01:18:53] <wallbroken> somebody of you knows pandaboard?
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230[01:19:16] <wallbroken> maybe i'm the only one i have it
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232[01:22:24] <jasonwc> danielh1234, Thanks, I will try that
next time. I appreciate the advice.
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276[01:42:42] <codebam> hey :)
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303[01:51:49] <gry> codebam: I am fine, thank you; how about
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341[02:07:04] <wallbroken> but maybe i have done something wrong
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342[02:07:35] <wallbroken> and now i'm stuck on
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381[02:33:07] <nutron> My chromium can't click on links
that come from a drop-down. So for example on ebay, where you click
the sort order, I can click on the item all I like, and it
won't actually trigger a click. It's only happening on
this workstation. I have disabled all extensions, I have deleted all
relevant directories in my home directory and there are no updates
to the package that I'm aware of. This is an odd bug and was
wondering if anyone else has run into it.
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389[02:38:37] <ExecSlim> nutron, does the issue still occur when
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392[02:39:19] <nutron> ExecSlim, yes indeed it does
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393[02:39:49] <ExecSlim> Does it work correctly in other
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405[02:46:32] <nutron> ExecSlim yes it does.
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406[02:47:12] <ExecSlim> Hmm. One sec
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408[02:47:38] <nutron> But it also works fine on other machines.
It was a problem on my home workstation as well for a while and
spontaneously got fixed.
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410[02:48:14] <ExecSlim> Does it work on google chrome beta?
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412[02:48:40] <ExecSlim> Does your other workstation have the
same operating system as the one that you are using right now?
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422[02:52:49] <nutron> Debian Jessie on both, and both up to
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423[02:53:11] <nutron> I can install chrome from the deb
sources, but is that necessary?
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425[02:53:46] <ExecSlim> Hmm
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427[02:54:03] <ExecSlim> Do you have logmein and/or teamviewer
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title bar?
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428[02:54:14] <ExecSlim> (excluding chrome extensions)
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433[02:58:41] <ExecSlim> I'm thinking you could just dump
all of the packages for both workstations, then diff them to see
what's different on your machine (grep -v lib* though)
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449[03:09:20] <wallbroken> how to show the list of installed
packages with apt- ?
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454[03:12:55] <nutron> Exec yeah, I'll do that.
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457[03:13:50] <ExecSlim> apt list --installed wallbroken
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463[03:17:52] <glick> tomorrow stretch is released right?
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466[03:18:32] <glick> yes? no?
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468[03:19:54] <ExecSlim> glick, well, Jun 17th
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469[03:20:02] <ExecSlim> according to
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471[03:21:55] <glick> so basically i have to update my apt file?
and change all instances of jessie to stretch and i should be good
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472[03:22:12] <glick> 'jessie' to 'stretch'
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474[03:23:19] <ExecSlim> aptitude full-upgrade should be what
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475[03:24:09] <glick> ExecSlim: well, im running stretch now
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476[03:24:18] <ExecSlim> Oh
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477[03:24:20] <glick> i commented out all the lines in apt
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478[03:24:28] <glick> and i changed the names from jessie to
strech
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479[03:24:39] <ExecSlim> did you run aptitude update after you
changed the names?
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480[03:24:49] <glick> indeed
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482[03:25:13] <ExecSlim> what about aptitude upgrade?
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483[03:25:17] <glick> so basically tomorrow i uncomment out the
other lines and changes the names and an apt update should do the
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484[03:25:24] <glick> yeah i did that too ExecSlim
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485[03:25:33] <ExecSlim> Sounds right but I haven't done
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486[03:26:09] <ExecSlim> sounds like something aptitude
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509[03:34:46] <wallbroken> plus i have a problem with automatic
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510[03:34:48] <wallbroken> and systemd
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511[03:34:51] <wallbroken> can you help me?
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744[06:14:55] <jasonwc> Is there any source that documents the
differences between the differences between Chromium on Debian and
Google Chrome? My understanding is that Chrome adds support for
proprietary codecs like H264 and AAC, includes DRM support, and
includes a sandboxed Flash plugin. I wonder whether Chromium offers
better privacy than Chrome, but from what I can find, Chrome offers
the option to disable any telemetry.
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829[07:01:17] <Lady_Aleena> Hello. So when is the release party?
Will there be pictures?
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862[07:22:20] <OxFEEDBACC> high! the installation medium (DVD)
contains a whole bunch of software in its repository... not all of
it is installed, but some packages are... i suppose there is some
list of packages to install during the initial system
installation... does anyone know off the top of their head where
that may be?
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863[07:23:02] <themill> depends on what you select at the
tasksel stage
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866[07:25:12] <themill> (it's basically all Priority:
required and important packages plus bootloader plus kernel plus
anything your hardware seems to require plus anything required for
your disks (lvm, luks etc) plus anything you select
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867[07:26:25] <themill> plus any dependencies of those things
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869[07:27:35] <dunderproto> speaking of installs, is the
netinstall the smallest "version" of debian possible?
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903[07:41:53] <OxFEEDBACC> themill: i don't really remember
that tasksel stage... still, having the
/usr/share/tasksel/descs/debian-tasks.desc in a terminal, i see many
tasks like albanian-desktp, which enhances "desktop", but
the latter does not describe, what belongs to it...
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904[07:42:47] <OxFEEDBACC> i don't find anything in tasksel
or tasksel-data, that could answer my question... :-/
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905[07:43:34] <OxFEEDBACC> okay, okay... find $PATH_INTO_REPO
-iname "*task*" shows more... :-/
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906[07:44:04] <OxFEEDBACC> so, thanks for hinting me at
tasksel...
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909[07:45:28] <themill> dunderproto: all installers are
identical
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910[07:46:18] <OxFEEDBACC> but no... that's a dead-end road
:-/
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922[07:56:31] <dunderproto> themill: Thanks. So, no matter which
installer I pick, I can always just deselect the packages I
*don't* want, if I understand correctly.
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924[07:57:05] <themill> more precisely, you select what you do
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934[08:02:09] <OxFEEDBACC> okay... i think i got it...
task-albanian enhances (refers to) task-desktop, which has a package
of that name, and dependencies, like the x-server and something
called desktop-base, probably a metapackage... let's look...
that drags in more... and somewhere in the dependency chain there
will be libreoffice...
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935[08:02:10] <OxFEEDBACC> nice...
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940[08:03:18] <OxFEEDBACC> anyway, thanks again for pushing me
there...
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949[08:06:22] <jmcnaught> OxFEEDBACC: the tasksel command has
options --list-tasks, --task-packages (though i think most tasks
install a single metapackage). take a look at the tasksel man page.
there are also many foo-tasks packages that add to what tasksel can
do
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950[08:06:49] <darme> anyone else had problems with libreoffice
in stretch?
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951[08:07:45] <darme> window does not open when i run
libreoffice and thre is no stdout
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954[08:09:32] <OxFEEDBACC> i had something similar with another
app, when i forgot to pass -X to ssh... just no output, and even $?
being 0... probably that was a different thing though...
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962[08:12:23] <xochilpili> how can i remove a package with all
their dependencies?
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965[08:12:43] <xochilpili> i have installed kdbg and this
installed kde but im using mate
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970[08:14:22] <elliot007> xochilpili: just remove the packages
and then run apt-get autoremove all the dependencies of that package
with be removed
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971[08:14:39] <Fyr> guys, will Debian 9 be released in GMT+0?
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972[08:15:20] <xochilpili> apt-get remove --auto-remove kdbg
<< i did this and remove a lot of stuff but not kde
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973[08:15:22] <xochilpili> ...
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975[08:16:27] <themill> xochilpili: what do you want it to
remove? (be explicit)
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977[08:16:46] <themill> Fyr: most of the people pulling levers
are in UK/Europe
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980[08:17:14] <Fyr> themill, so, GMT+1?
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983[08:17:22] <xochilpili> themill, i wanted to remove kde, but
i just type what u said, apt-get remove kde and then apt-get
autoremove, and it's done
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984[08:17:31] <Fyr> I'd like to download it fheschen.
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985[08:18:15] <themill> xochilpili: there is no package called
kde
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986[08:18:19] <xochilpili> but in the previous command i type:
apt-get remove --auto-remove kdbg << removed a lot of libs,
openjdk and other stuffs
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987[08:18:22] <Fyr> heiß, Direkt aus dem Ofen
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988[08:18:26] <themill> Fyr: a timezone is not a time
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989[08:18:26] <xochilpili> kde-runtime <<
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990[08:18:40] <themill> xochilpili: so explicitly remove that
package as well
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993[08:19:52] <elliot007> xochilpili: you can do apt-get remove
kde* to remove all packages with kde in there name and then run
apt-get autoremove to remove all the dependencies as well
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994[08:19:59] <xochilpili> is there a way to check healthy of
packages?
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995[08:20:11] <themill> depends what you mean by healthy
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996[08:20:44] <xochilpili> when i typed: apt-get remove
--auto-remove kdbg << remove a lot of stuffs, (as i said
above) then i dont know if this will represent an issue later
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997[08:21:03] <themill> define 'healthy',
'issue'.
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998[08:21:06] <xochilpili> is there a way to check all packages
dependencies, in order to avoid future issues?
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999[08:21:14] <themill> 'check' means what?
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1000[08:21:23] <themill> (also be careful with things like *...
apt uses regexs not globs)
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1001[08:21:28] <themill> elliot007: ^^
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1008[08:23:59] <Lady_Aleena> Hello. rsync can exclude a directory
right?
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1012[08:24:36] <slax0r> Lady_Aleena: what do you mean, include?
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1013[08:24:42] <slax0r> wow
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1014[08:24:46] <slax0r> early morning...
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1015[08:24:49] <slax0r> yes it can excldue it
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1016[08:24:52] <slax0r> exclude*
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1021[08:29:05] <Lady_Aleena> slax0r, I do NOT want rsync to sync
my .kde directory. I want it left alone.
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1029[08:31:21] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: are you syncing text
files, or mostly large binary files?
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1031[08:31:41] <Lady_Aleena> jmcnaught, I want to sync my entire
$HOME except .kde.
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1034[08:32:13] <slax0r> Lady_Aleena: --exclude=".kde" ?
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1035[08:32:50] <Lady_Aleena> slax0r, thanks you.
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1036[08:33:00] <Lady_Aleena> s/thanks/thank/; # head desks.
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1037[08:33:00] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena:
replaced-url
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1038[08:33:08] <ahmed751995> excuse me , i installed
torbrowser-launcher latest version and when i ran the launcher i got
Download error : 404 Not found, any one know the solution are there
problems in tor servers?
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1039[08:33:08] <OxFEEDBACC> or "mv $HOME/.kde /tmp; rsync
$HOME $TARGET; mv /tmp/.kde $HOME"
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1040[08:33:36] <Lady_Aleena> jmcnaught, does it have anything to
do with git?
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1041[08:34:17] <jmcnaught> yeah it's an extension to git,
which isn't as hard as it looks and is really worth learning if
you edit text files
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1042[08:34:30] * themill wouldn't use it for files that change
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1046[08:35:49] <jmcnaught> well i would also say if you're
actually backing stuff up and not syncing between two computers that
a proper backup tool would be best to use instead
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1049[08:36:25] <Lady_Aleena> jmcnaught, I don't have git
installed.
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1051[08:36:49] <themill> my experience with git-annex for things
like videos, audio is good; for files I edit, my experience is not
good
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1052[08:36:59] <Lady_Aleena> I rsync to my two other hard drives
and a usb drive.
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1056[08:37:54] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: for the purpose of
backing up your files?
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1058[08:38:12] <Lady_Aleena> jmcnaught, yes.
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1059[08:38:43] <Lady_Aleena> I back up to hd2 (sdb), hd3 (sdc),
and a usb.
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1063[08:40:09] <jmcnaught> then i would use something like duply
or obnam instead that can retain different versions of the backups
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1069[08:41:11] <maferv> is there any file manager that has an
integrated shell at the bottom?
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1070[08:41:20] <themill> dolphin
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1072[08:41:45] <OxFEEDBACC> was just about to say konqueror...
but yeah, dolphin...
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1073[08:41:55] <themill> or mc
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1075[08:42:11] <Lady_Aleena> jmcnaught, different versions? I
don't have svn install.
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1076[08:42:19] <maferv> does it? I didn't know, thanks, but
I'm leaning on the light side, anything lighter? I currently
use thunar
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1077[08:42:25] <maferv> what's mc themill?
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1078[08:42:40] <themill> a file manager. with an integrated shell
at the bottom
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1079[08:42:51] <maferv> you mean midnight commander? isn't
it ncurses only?
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1082[08:43:16] <elliot007> ranger
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1087[08:43:43] <tx> I guess
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1088[08:43:47] <tx> tmux + any cli-based file manager
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1089[08:43:47] <tx> :P
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1092[08:44:08] <elliot007> tx: yep
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1095[08:44:33] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: duply for example does
incremental backups where you could do say a complete backup once a
week, and daily incremental backups that only backups the changes.
then you can ask duply to restore a file/directory from two days, or
three weeks ago (depending on how much history you decide to keep)
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1097[08:44:49] <maferv> I'm looking for some thunar/pcmanfm
kind of file manager with an integrated shell at the bottom. Dolphin
is way too heavy for me
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1099[08:45:09] <elliot007> but ranger is almost like vim just
that it is a file manager
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1102[08:46:13] <elliot007> maferv: i guess there are plugins for
nautilus
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1103[08:46:23] <elliot007>
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1104[08:46:54] <jmcnaught> nautilus has open in terminal in its
context menu, which opens gnome-terminal
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1106[08:47:21] <maferv> elliot007 are there any plugins for
thunar/pcmanfm? I parted ways with nautilus since the redesign of
gnome with gnome3
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1109[08:47:47] <elliot007> I don't use gui file managers
anymore, so not sure
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1111[08:48:10] <maferv> what do you use elliot007 ?
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1112[08:48:15] <elliot007> ranger
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1113[08:48:18] <Lady_Aleena> jmcnaught, I can barely remember to
back up things once every six months.
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1115[08:48:46] <jmcnaught> Lady_Aleena: you can configure a cron
job for it
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1121[08:50:27] <Lady_Aleena> jmcnaught, I don't know,
I've never played with cron.
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1123[08:51:07] <elliot007> maferv: check this
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1124[08:51:10] <jmcnaught> systemd timer units are another option
if you don't alrady know cron
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1133[08:55:00] <elliot007> i wonder why is everyone excited about
release date and time, you can switch to stretch right now anyway
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1136[08:56:30] <maferv> jmcnaught, this is what I'm already
using, "open terminal here". I end up with too many
terminals and it's not practical. It'd be so much better
if they were integrated in the same window, in the same tab, each
with its own terminal
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1143[08:58:23] <elliot007> maferv: maybe you should start using
terminal multiplexers now, like tmux
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1148[09:00:08] <maferv> sometimes I use screen, but if I can, I
just use tabs, elliot007
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1152[09:00:50] <elliot007> few days ago i found a terminal
emulator speficially designed for this purpose wait
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1153[09:02:37] <maferv> I use xfce4-terminal mostly
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1157[09:03:44] <elliot007> yup check this out
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1163[09:06:13] <maferv> thanks
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1166[09:07:22] <maferv> reminds me of tmux, a gnomish tmux
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1167[09:07:40] <elliot007> yep basically same thing as tmux just
using gui
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1178[09:09:54] <maferv> well thanks guys, I'll stick to
thunar+terminal for the time being
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1179[09:10:02] <maferv> bye
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1219[09:22:31] <martinus__> how do I install mysql back instead
of mariadb in debian stretch ?
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1233[09:26:22] <jelly> martinus__: just install mysql-server
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1237[09:27:26] <martinus__> jelly, well, mysql-server package
just embed mariadb right ?
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1238[09:28:04] <jelly> martinus__: "apt-cache show
mysql-server" will give you an answer to that question
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1242[09:28:31] <jelly> ,depends mysql-server --release stretch
--arch amd64
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1243[09:28:32] <judd> Package mysql-server in stretch/amd64 --
depends: default-mysql-server.
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1244[09:28:39] <jelly> hmm.
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1247[09:29:14] <martinus__> mysql-server is a transitional for
mariadb
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1248[09:29:42] <jelly> ah, right, to facilitate release upgrade
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1249[09:30:09] <jelly> then you can't, not right now
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1252[09:31:05] <jelly> I guess there will be a backport of
mysql-server-5.7 (and mysql-server) once stretch is out
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1255[09:31:26] <jelly> ,depends mysql-server --release sid --arch
amd64
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1256[09:31:27] <judd> Package mysql-server in sid/amd64 --
depends: mysql-server-5.7.
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1257[09:31:54] <jelly> I probably ought to disable unstable repos
on my desktop
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1258[09:32:45] <martinus__> So, I can't install JIRA on
debian stretch quickly
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1260[09:32:48] <martinus__> :(
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1261[09:32:51] <jelly> why not?
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1262[09:33:05] <martinus__> because I have an existing mysql dump
to migrate on
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1265[09:33:19] <martinus__> and JIRA doesn't officially
support mariadb
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1266[09:33:23] <nix64bit> y is a crooked letter and you cant make
it straight
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1267[09:33:24] <jelly> jire devs prefer postgres anyway, and jira
has its own export/dump system
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1269[09:34:00] <martinus__> jelly, when, JIRA doesn't
support pgsql 9.6 :D
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1270[09:34:16] <jelly> martinus__: why are you using stretch then
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1272[09:34:22] <martinus__> jelly, good question
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1273[09:34:24] <nix64bit> what is the verdict between maria and
postgres?
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1274[09:34:38] <nix64bit> I used to me a mysql fan
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1276[09:34:59] <shamoanjac> CSV
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1277[09:35:04] <jelly> mariadb is just a flavor of mysql
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1278[09:35:05] <shamoanjac> that's the real deal
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1280[09:35:39] <martinus__> jelly, well, in the start I had to
install a fresh server and I thought it was a good move in the long
term to install a stretch
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1282[09:37:05] <jelly> maybe your good move ought to take support
matrix into account if you care about keeping within it
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1284[09:37:49] <jelly> Linux pg-atlassian-prod 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1
SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 (2016-10-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux # jessie
and postgres 9.4 for our instances
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1287[09:39:01] <jelly> but really jira doesn't use any fancy
database features, if mariadb is not supported, it's probably
because they didn't care to test it yet
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1288[09:39:06] <nix64bit> I am fully postgres now
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1293[09:40:14] <jelly> martinus__: you can also choose to use
packages from mysql.com if you need it
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1294[09:40:39] <martinus__> jelly, or I can stick with mariadb
against per JIRA recommendation
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1296[09:41:22] <jelly> and suffer grave consequences!!!1one
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1298[09:42:20] <nix64bit> django has some postgres specific
modules to do with using serialized data
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1299[09:42:47] <jelly> or ask in #atlassian about more anecdotal
experience running jira on unsupported versions of sql db
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1300[09:43:03] <nix64bit> so ja go with what works and try and
keep your code decoupled as much as possible
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1301[09:43:05] <martinus__> jelly, what I like the most is this :
replaced-url
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1306[09:44:05] <jelly> ask them what they run that instance on,
then :-)
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1308[09:45:30] <martinus__> jelly, that's a good idea
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1309[09:46:29] <Haohmaru> i've installed 32bit debian 8.8
onto a flash stick on a laptop, and now i plug it into another
laptop, with slightly different hardware, the LAN doesn't
work.. the ethernet card is a RTL8101 ... do i need to download a
driver from synaptic?
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1311[09:47:12] <Haohmaru> or could it be an actual hardware
issue.. the ethernet port on this thing has no LEDs and it seems as
if the port wiggles a bit
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1326[09:55:03] <NiLon> leds off usually just means the device is
off, could be lack of driver or being disabled. And the wiggle thing
also is rather normal, it's usually fault of cable connector
anyway
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1329[09:57:37] <Haohmaru> NiLon i mean that the LAN port on this
laptop physically doesn't have LEDs, so i can't tell if it
"sees" that the cable is plugged
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1332[10:00:06] <jkliemann> Haohmaru: you can try ethtool, it
shows if a link is detected and what standard has been negotiated
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1336[10:00:21] <Haohmaru> but my question is more like.. does the
debian installation by default come with many drivers installed, or
does it "look" at your specific hardware during the
installation and only install "some" drivers, enough to
run on that
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1337[10:01:33] <jkliemann> I think it gives you both options
(install generic drivers or install device specific drivers)
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1339[10:02:00] <Haohmaru> jkliemann i've seen this before,
but this installation didn't ask any questions
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1341[10:02:12] <Haohmaru> it was 32bit debian live
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1345[10:02:27] <Haohmaru> i can tell you the exact iso filename,
if that helps
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1346[10:03:35] <Haohmaru>
"debian-live-8.8.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso"
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1348[10:06:22] <jkliemann> Hmm, if it didn't ask I think it
would probably install all drivers (since it came from a live system
that is usually meant to run on multiple different hardware
configurations)
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1362[10:11:46] <Haohmaru> crap, did i miss something?
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1363[10:13:28] <Fyr> no
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1364[10:13:33] <Haohmaru> k
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1365[10:14:00] <Fyr> >>jkliemann: Hmm, if it didn't
ask I think it would probably install all drivers (since it came
from a live system that is usually meant to run on multiple
different hardware configurations)
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1366[10:14:00] <Fyr> is the last message
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1368[10:15:10] <Haohmaru> oh
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1370[10:15:23] <Haohmaru> okay, so then it must be a hardware
issue :/
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1378[10:18:24] <jkliemann> what exactly is your issue?
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1389[10:25:53] <Haohmaru> jkliemann ifconfig doesn't even
list eth0
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1394[10:28:42] <jkliemann> Haohmaru thats a driver problem I
think, what does lspci say? Does it find the ethernet device?
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1395[10:29:14] <Haohmaru> yes.. it says it's a realtek fast
ethernet blahblah RTL8101
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1396[10:30:01] <Haohmaru> and i tried running the live image
(because i still have it around) on this, it managed to get the LAN
working during the live
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1398[10:30:29] <Haohmaru> but not from the first time
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1404[10:32:51] <jkliemann> have you installed firmware-realtek?
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1406[10:33:06] <Haohmaru> i haven't done anything manually
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1408[10:33:28] <Haohmaru> i looked for "realtek" in
synaptic, but it didn't show "firmware" anything
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1409[10:33:32] <Haohmaru> only a few things
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1412[10:35:31] <jkliemann> have you enabled the non-free
repositories?
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1413[10:35:32] <jkliemann>
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1416[10:36:08] <Haohmaru> jkliemann the installation didn't
ask me pretty much any questions
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1422[10:37:57] <jkliemann> Well then go into
/etc/apt/sources.list and add contrib (if you want, but not required
for this) and non-free (required for firmware-realtek) to the
repository lines after main (except security and backports)
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1424[10:38:21] <jkliemann> then run apt update and then it should
be available (maybe you also need to refresh synaptic)
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1452[10:45:36] <Haohmaru> okay.. i'll try that when i can
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1486[11:07:53] <Aebian> that arkward blueish color is set by VIM
right?
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1499[11:15:53] <jkliemann> Aebian: try :set termguicolors in vim
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1508[11:19:21] <Aebian> jkliemann: I just set colorscheme desert
that worked also
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1509[11:19:26] <Aebian> but thx
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1514[11:21:21] <mohammad-ghasemi> I downloaded a distro iso file
using deluge do I need to check for checksum errors?
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1515[11:21:52] <sleepyhead> mohammad-ghasemi: you should just to
make sure
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1516[11:22:11] <sleepyhead> mohammad-ghasemi: you should check
that the gpg sigs checkout
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1518[11:22:41] <sleepyhead> mohammad-ghasemi: distro sites have
been hacked (linux mint) in the past but gpg sigs can't be
faked
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1519[11:24:00] <mohammad-ghasemi> sleepyhead: I've heard
that torrent checks with some sort of hash mechanism. But I
didn't think about hacks. Thank you
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1578[11:52:52] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
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1651[12:26:39] <xochilpili> hi all
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1652[12:27:00] <gry> greetings
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1653[12:27:15] <xochilpili> i have a fresh install, but using vim
or some other editor, ctrl+home is not working
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1654[12:27:24] <xochilpili> also ctrl-end
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1655[12:28:17] <Bliepo> Hello, I cannot login to my server
running ProFTPD anymore. I am using the latest version of WinSCP to
connect. I tried running the daemon from the comand line and
enabling 'no-daemon' and set debug level to 10 (the max),
checked the logs, but I still can't find any errors :-(
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1656[12:28:52] <Bliepo> Output of running ProFTPD with debug set
to 10:
replaced-url
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1658[12:29:15] <Bliepo> The ProFTPD config file:
replaced-url
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1659[12:29:29] <Bliepo> And the TLS config file:
replaced-url
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1660[12:30:01] <gry> xochilpili, what terminal?
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1661[12:30:11] <xochilpili> gry, bash
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1662[12:30:18] <gry> xochilpili, if you open bash or similar ,
does 'home' or 'end' work there?
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1665[12:31:17] <xochilpili> gry, without ctrl key, yes
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1668[12:31:34] <Bliepo> If you want to move to the beginning of
the file, type gg
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1670[12:31:58] <xand> Bliepo: why don't use you sftp instead
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1671[12:32:01] <xand> *you use
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1672[12:32:20] <Bliepo> No reason in particular
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1674[12:32:40] <xand> Bliepo: you should consider that. FTP is
insecure and suffers from a number of other issues.
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1675[12:32:54] <xand> winscp does sftp and the server is running
by default assuming you have ssh server.
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1676[12:33:00] <Bliepo> xand: if I use TLS, there shouldn't
be any issues
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1677[12:33:05] <xand> there are.
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1680[12:33:19] <Bliepo> I encrypt both channels?
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1681[12:33:34] <xand> there are problems with FTP other than
encryption :)
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1682[12:33:54] <Bliepo> Could you point me to more information on
this?
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1683[12:34:02] <missmbob> !ftp must die
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1684[12:34:03] <dpkg> FTP MUST DIE!
replaced-url
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1685[12:34:22] <missmbob> greycat's wiki on wooledge is nice
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1686[12:34:34] <xand> yeah that page
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1688[12:35:14] * Bliepo is reading with great interest
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1689[12:35:44] <missmbob> you might want to wait about 3 hours
for the author to be in here, then ;)
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1692[12:36:31] <missmbob> i'm off to bed. good luck
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1694[12:38:09] <Bliepo> Thanks!
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1758[13:07:50] <Aebian> SCP and HTTP :] f*ck FTP :D
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1789[13:23:07] <JuniusBrutus> So, will Debian 9 be released
tomorrow *for certain*?
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1830[13:38:05] <petn-randall> JuniusBrutus: Yes, unless there are
any show-stoppers found in the process.
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1883[14:00:02] <Throbber> debian linux 01
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1889[14:03:36] <jelly> JuniusBrutus: even then, all aspects of a
release take 1-2 days to settle -- repos, iso images, torrents...
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1891[14:04:03] <JuniusBrutus> jelly, yeah, I kinda get the idea
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1915[14:09:14] <nefelh> chat
replaced-url
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1926[14:12:46] <tw> What should we use instead of anonymous ftp?
http, tftp, other?
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1927[14:12:57] <Aebian> http
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1930[14:19:19] <Stummi> tw, whats your goal? Just publishing some
files for others? Go with http
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1931[14:19:25] <tw> if you've ever written a parser for http
or soap, you might disagree. I'd give you http2 w/ prior (viz,
no upgrade), but parsing http is error prone.
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1933[14:19:39] <tw> Anonymous file distribution of media.
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1934[14:19:44] <tw> I'm replying to "ftpmustdie"
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1936[14:20:01] <Stummi> tw, the good thing about http is, *every
single programming language* has very powerful and feature complete
implementations of both ends of HTTP ready to use
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1939[14:20:22] <Stummi> well, every notable at least
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1941[14:20:31] <tw> Except the internet of s*@&
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1946[14:20:54] <tw> Well, mbed has one.
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1947[14:20:55] <BlackOuT> chan
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1954[14:23:25] <tw> I'll give it to you though, http is a
better choice 95% of the time.
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1957[14:23:47] <tw> But it could be better.
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1965[14:27:47] <petn-randall> tw: sftp
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1967[14:29:01] <jelly> sftp for uploads, yes. Download only?
http(s)
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1995[14:39:02] <teraflops> webdav is fine if you want uploads too
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2000[14:40:22] <Halcyforn> hello how work debian with uefi and
windows 10. 5 live cd/dvd cant run on my laptop
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2004[14:41:41] <tx> use a USB stick
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2005[14:41:53] <Halcyforn> what a difference
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2006[14:41:54] <zykotick9> Halcyforn: the debian-LIVE images do
NOT support uefi! use netinst/cd1/dvd1 instead.
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2007[14:42:22] <Halcyforn> zykotick why i should install not test
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2008[14:42:30] <tx> Aren't there alternate builds for live
and EFI?
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2009[14:42:44] <teraflops> no idea
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2010[14:42:45] <tx> Perhaps I am thinking of something else.
Either way, a bit of a shame really.
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2011[14:43:05] <Halcyforn> all run linxu start loading and all
stop on blank screen
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2012[14:43:09] <Halcyforn> all 5 distros
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2013[14:43:13] <Halcyforn> what i test
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2014[14:43:21] <Halcyforn> now maybe debian run on clevo
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2015[14:43:41] <tw> they start loading as in you get the grub
boot screen and then it blanks your display?
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2017[14:43:48] <tx> take a pic
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2018[14:43:52] <tw> If that is the case, it is not a uefi
problem.
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2020[14:44:47] <Halcyforn> the best run i get on suse .
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2021[14:45:04] <Halcyforn> i get more then blank screen after
pres run live distro
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2022[14:45:10] <zykotick9> tw: ahhh - in addition to uefi, there
may be another issue(s) - but debian-Live doesn't support uefi
systems <- so it's NEVER going to work with the debian
image...
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2026[14:45:53] <Halcyforn> can configuration of my laptop be a
problem on live cd/dvd ?
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2027[14:46:03] <zykotick9> ^ NEVER in the context of current
Debian-Live images - i imagine it will one day be supported.
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2031[14:46:50] <Aebian> do I need some special command for
changing the sensible editor? I tried this:
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2032[14:46:52] <missmbob> there's no one actively in charge
of live...so not soon
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2033[14:47:00] <Halcyforn> uefi run is not problem becase bios
can start this boot easy but any distro dont work
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2036[14:47:54] <onurhann> what is the model of the computer? I do
not think so but maybe hardware is not supported?
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2038[14:48:07] <tremolo> Aebian: What does `which nano` get you?
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2040[14:48:31] <Aebian> tremolo: nothing because its not
installed :P
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2041[14:48:40] <Aebian> nano not found
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2044[14:49:09] <Aebian> which in my case is a expected behavior
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2045[14:49:12] <tx> Aebian: uh
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2046[14:49:17] <tremolo> Right
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2047[14:49:27] <Halcyforn> i can give you only few spec. NVIDIA
GeForce GTX 1060 G-sync Technology, Intel Core i7-6700HQ, 16GB DDR4
2133 MHz CL15, Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 1 TB 7200rpm, M.2 500GB SSD
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2048[14:49:37] <tx> did you have nano installed at some point?
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2049[14:49:43] <Halcyforn> and ips screen have g syns tech
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2050[14:49:50] <tx> it looks like sensible-editor did, at some
point, go to nano
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2051[14:49:53] <Aebian> I had once but removed it as I don't
need it
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2052[14:50:05] <tx> and it didn't get removed during post
uninstall
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2053[14:50:13] <onurhann> these are common hardware, i do not see
why they would cause a problem
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2056[14:50:24] <Aebian> and tried to change the editor with sudo
update-alternatives --config editor
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2058[14:50:35] <Aebian> which worked but just not for the
sensible
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2060[14:50:42] <tx> hmm
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2062[14:50:55] <onurhann> maybe there is a problem with the iso
images, try to test them in virtual machines see if they will boot
up?
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2064[14:51:04] <tx> I would probably unlink whatever it is linked
to just now
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2065[14:51:09] <tx> `which sensible-editor`
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2066[14:51:13] <Halcyforn> Clevo P670RP6-G
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2067[14:51:18] <tx> then cd to the directory that is in, and ls
-la to see what it points to
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2068[14:51:32] <tx> or just ls the file
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2069[14:51:39] <Halcyforn> this is laptop and have intel graphic
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2071[14:51:45] <tremolo> or `ls -ls $(which sensible-editor)`
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2072[14:51:53] <tremolo> s/-ls/-la/
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2073[14:52:02] <tx> :)
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2074[14:52:03] <tx> yes
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2075[14:52:19] <onurhann> forget the hardware, test iso images
with virtual machines
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2077[14:52:27] <tremolo> though I suppose the a isn't really
needed
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2078[14:52:30] <onurhann> if they still fail the problem is with
the iso images
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2080[14:52:32] <Aebian> well /usr/bin/sensible-editor points to
vim because if I just enter it into the terminal I get the vim about
page
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2081[14:52:42] <Aebian> weird
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2083[14:52:58] <tx> Aebian: try what you did in the screenshot
again
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2084[14:53:00] <tx> see if you can reproduce
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2085[14:53:34] <Aebian> maybe the crontab thingy is pointing to
nano
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2087[14:53:45] <Aebian> because I can reproduce it
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2091[14:55:08] <Aebian> because ectab is just alias
ectab="sudo crontab -e -u"
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2092[14:55:27] <Aebian> so crontab is called
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2096[14:55:55] <Halcyforn> last thing because 2 years ago i have
small problem with debian installer always want cd when i use stick
on older laptop
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2100[14:56:18] <tremolo> "The -e option is used to edit the
current crontab using the editor specified by the VISUAL or EDITOR
environment variables. After you exit from the editor, the modified
crontab will be installed automatically. If neither of the
environment variables is defined, then the default editor
/usr/bin/editor is used"
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2102[14:56:29] <missmbob> Halcyforn: how are you copying iso to
usb?
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2104[14:56:52] <tremolo> Aebian: Do you have either of those
variables set? What does /usr/bin/editor point to?
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2105[14:57:00] <Halcyforn> windows yumi ?
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2111[14:57:27] <missmbob> !yumi
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2112[14:57:27] <dpkg> well, yumi is a tool that can make bootable
usb device. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images,
as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in
hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb
install>, <win32diskimager>
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2115[14:57:45] <missmbob> Halcyforn: that's why
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2117[14:58:07] <Aebian> tremolo: command is in the bottom left
corner:
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2118[14:58:23] <Aebian> so I could try if export EDITOR=vim will
work
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2124[14:59:59] <tremolo> So /usr/bin/editor is vim. If either of
those variables is set to nano, it would override.
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2134[15:02:26] <Halcyforn> missmbob ok if yumi is bad tell me how
to make working usb stick on windows . in guide on debian site is
only how to do this on linux: " dd if=<plik>
of=<urządzenie> bs=4M; sync"
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2137[15:02:54] <Aebian> tremolo: found the issue. In
/root/.selected_editor is nano set
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2140[15:03:11] <Aebian> and since sudo runs stuff as root bingo
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2141[15:03:18] <missmbob> Halcyforn: the guide says something
else. so does the message i had the bot sent you. win32diskimager
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2143[15:03:25] <tremolo> Halcyforn: win32diskimager is pretty
usable.
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2144[15:03:33] <tremolo> Aebian: Awesome
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2145[15:03:34] <Halcyforn> oh no
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2146[15:03:39] <Halcyforn> this shit
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2147[15:03:59] <missmbob> the shit that works, yes
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2148[15:04:04] <Halcyforn> 2 day i recovery usb stick after mint
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2149[15:04:09] <Halcyforn> 2000 partitions
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2152[15:04:37] <teraflops> what are you talking about?
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2158[15:05:45] <Halcyforn> last time when i use this win32 shit
he create 2000 maybe less partitions when i try do linux mint live
stick
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2164[15:06:13] <teraflops> yeah maybe a bit less
partitions…
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2167[15:06:42] <Halcyforn> idk windows disk manager get lag when
see how many partitions is there
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2168[15:07:00] <Halcyforn> 16 gb stick full of small partitions
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2171[15:07:44] <tremolo> win32diskimager should just write out
what's in the image. Maybe there was something off about that
Mint image?
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2174[15:08:06] <teraflops> Halcyforn: this is debian not mint, 2
I dont know how did you create that usb stick, it works for everyone
else, and why do you care about the number of partitions is a
mystery for me
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2175[15:08:48] <missmbob> Halcyforn: btw with win32diskimager
(says so on the install guide), if you dont see the debian iso
rename the extension to img
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2187[15:11:20] <mint> lol
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2191[15:12:04] <xiaoji> hello, every friends!
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2193[15:12:21] <tremolo> Hi
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2194[15:12:22] <teraflops> tremolo: since win32diskimager copies
the raw img to the usb device and subsequently it erases whatever it
was there before I dont get what you mean
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2195[15:12:24] <mint> Hi.
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2196[15:12:30] <mint> I dont undestand.
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2197[15:12:32] <SuperSeriousCat> Hi, not-friend
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2198[15:12:33] <mint> sorry.
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2199[15:13:00] <tremolo> teraflops: Because it does exactly that,
any partitions it created must have been present in the image it
copied.
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2203[15:14:04] <xiaoji> I want to know which time debian 9 can be
download?
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2205[15:14:09] <teraflops> mint: if you're going to make a
joke every time anyone says mint, it's ok, if it annoys you,
deal with it or change your nick
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2207[15:14:22] <missmbob> xiaoji: when it's ready
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2209[15:14:48] <xiaoji> I heart that 2017-6-17
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2210[15:14:52] <mint> ah, ok. kkkkkkkk
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2211[15:14:55] <marrenarre> xiaoji: See the topic.
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2213[15:15:21] <missmbob> xiaoji: it's "maybe"
6-17. and that doesnt even tell you a time to download
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2214[15:15:46] <xiaoji> is America time or pacific time?
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2215[15:15:51] <teraflops> ಠ_ಠ
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2216[15:15:52] <xochilpili> why when im trying to execute a ELF
LSB executable i got this: bash: ./sample_one: No such file or
directory ???
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2218[15:16:29] <xochilpili> file sample_one: ELF 32-bit LSB
executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked,
interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.15,
BuildID[sha1]=a01d6d16a59c7f0d7ec00ab5454eed2eb22bd20d, not stripped
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2219[15:16:36] <missmbob> xochilpili: you installed 64-bit but
didnt enable 32-bit with multiarch?
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2220[15:16:48] <xiaoji> if is pacific time, 3 hours later I can
download the image file of debian 9
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2223[15:17:36] <xochilpili> uname -a : Linux host 3.16.0-4-amd64
#1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2 (2017-04-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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2224[15:17:41] <xochilpili> missmbob, ^
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2225[15:17:53] <themill> xiaoji: it is when it is ready
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2226[15:17:55] <missmbob> xochilpili: so, yeah. enable 32-bit
with multiarch
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2228[15:18:09] <xochilpili> and to enable 32-bits?
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2229[15:18:18] <missmbob> !multiarch howto
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2230[15:18:18] <dpkg> methinks multiarch howto is
replaced-url
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2231[15:18:24] <xochilpili> thanks
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2232[15:18:25] <themill> xiaoji: if you install it today it is no
different to if you install it tomorrow
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2233[15:18:29] <marrenarre> xiaoji: I think the ETA is only down
to which day; they don’t mean at 00.00.
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2235[15:19:05] <missmbob> they're not even hard set on the
day. thus, when it's ready
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2236[15:19:09] <xiaoji> I cant wait
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2239[15:19:30] <marrenarre> xiaoji: Why not?
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2241[15:19:55] <xochilpili> missmbob, --add-architecture x86 or
i386 ??
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2243[15:20:06] <xiaoji> too
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2244[15:20:06] <xiaoji> Long-awaited
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2246[15:20:23] <marrenarre> Are you just saying that you are
excited?
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2249[15:20:59] <missmbob> xochilpili: i386
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2250[15:21:00] <xiaoji> 期待已久. you can understand.
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2252[15:21:16] <marrenarre> xiaoji: I cannot understand that.
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2254[15:21:42] <ber532k> Does it make much of a difference? You
can already debootstrap stretch -- and that's probably really
just the same you get via the released iso
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2256[15:21:57] <themill> Tomorrow is about making ISO images,
nothing more.
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2259[15:22:29] <petn-randall> Well, and also declaring it
released and cracking a cold one ;)
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2261[15:22:46] <xiaoji> for example. I will give you 1 billion $
at 2016-10-10 and now time is 2016-10-09.期待已久
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2262[15:23:14] <marrenarre> xiaoji: Why are you placing those
non-English letters there?
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2263[15:23:16] <themill> there will be precisely zero package
changes between what is in stretch today and stretch tomorrow. There
will be one additional signature on Release.gpg and one symlink
changed.
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2268[15:24:03] <xochilpili> missmbob, after doing apt-get update,
then i have to: apt-get install links:i386 ?
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2269[15:24:03] <xiaoji> i cant use english Expression Integrally
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2270[15:24:13] <teraflops> this conversation is pointless
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2272[15:24:24] <Guest22234> Is there command for debian pastebin?
like fedora has fpaste that uploads things to fedora's
pastebin?
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2273[15:24:31] <petn-randall> !pastebinit
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2274[15:24:31] <dpkg> A command-line tool to send data to a
<pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude
install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste
the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See
also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
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2275[15:24:32] <xochilpili> i just wanted to run that 32bits
ELF's
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2276[15:24:34] <petn-randall> Guest22234: ^^^
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2282[15:25:21] <xiaoji> i use google translate to talk
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2283[15:25:34] <mint> i too
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2287[15:25:55] <mint> i also
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2289[15:26:06] <mint> xiao whats your lenguage?
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2292[15:26:13] <xiaoji> chinese
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2293[15:26:15] <xochilpili> missmbob, done, thanks!
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2295[15:26:17] <petn-randall> xiaoji: What's your native
language?
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2296[15:26:20] <mint> lol
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2297[15:26:25] <mint> cool
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2298[15:26:27] <petn-randall> !cn
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2299[15:26:27] <dpkg> 如果您想要以中文得到 Debian
相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot
頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC
程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
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2301[15:26:40] <danielh1234> petn-randall: nice
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2303[15:26:47] <petn-randall> xiaoji: You might find other people
in this channel, that also speak mandarin. ^^^
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2309[15:27:31] <mint> speak esperanto
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2310[15:27:54] <mutante> speak Lojban
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2311[15:28:08] <xiaoji> debian-cn no people
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2312[15:28:25] <missmbob> OFTC not freenode
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2314[15:28:33] <petn-randall> xiaoji: Are you sure you connected
from the right IRC network?
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2316[15:28:41] <danielh1234> xiaoji:
replaced-url
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2429[16:07:22] <DrBunsen> Hello, is there a program to make a
remote desktop connection to behave the same way as mouse capture
and full screen works in virtualbox? The machine is on the same
network so bandwidth and latency shouldn't be an issue. My
websearching skills are not advanced enough to find this.
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2442[16:10:36] <donofrio> what is it called when an application
is able to have it's position and such stored at logout?
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2444[16:11:29] <danielh1234> DrBunsen: I'm not sure I fully
understand your question, especially "to behave the same way as
mouse capture and full screen works in virtualbox". But there
is xrdp which can also be installed on VMs running in VirtualBox.
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2445[16:12:24] <DrBunsen> danielh1234: I just want to control a
remote computer like it was local, I think x forwarding should do
the trick
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2454[16:16:08] <danielh1234> DrBunsen: Ok, so what kind of
program are you still looking for?
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2459[16:17:32] <DrBunsen> I just want to connect to a box with a
strong videocard to run some graphic applications.
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2464[16:18:34] <DrBunsen> and I want to load the screen from that
box into my current screen.
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2466[16:19:20] <frosty> does it work to upgrade to stretch right
now?
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2467[16:19:47] <danielh1234> DrBunsen: as in OpenGL support,
smooth video and 60+fps / high resolutions? Or just for OpenCL /
CUDA (rendering and such)?
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2468[16:20:15] <frosty> from /etc/apt/sources.list to change from
jessie to stretch
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2469[16:20:30] <DrBunsen> danielh1234: 60 fps would be best, if I
just want to render I will do it through cli I suppose ;)
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2470[16:21:06] <danielh1234> DrBunsen: Is your machine with the
powerful GPU a VM or another physical machine on your network?
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2474[16:21:42] <DrBunsen> danielh1234: another machine, I used
the virtualbox example in the hopes to make it clear what I was
looking for.
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2475[16:22:38] <new-nick> hi there, just a quick question. I
learnt command line history are stored in .bashrc history. Wonder
does it store all commands output into a file ?
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2476[16:23:18] <petn-randall> new-nick: The history is saved in
~/.bash_history. ~/.bashrc is your local bash config. Output is not
saved.
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2477[16:23:20] <new-nick> Basically, I want to record all the
commands out put to file but not wish to give -o filename every time
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2479[16:23:58] <new-nick> petn-randall: any way to save all the
output or activities, automatically?
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2481[16:24:41] <SwedeMike> new-nick: permanently, or for a
shorter duration?
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2482[16:24:56] <SwedeMike> new-nick: but it's not good for
permanently recording all output.
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2483[16:24:56] <danielh1234> DrBunsen: There's VirtualGL,
but I have not used it in the way you described. Arch Wiki (sorry :)
has a nice overview
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2487[16:26:12] <new-nick> temporarily. I have bad practice to
give command without realising the output. With record output, I can
review the command/output.
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2490[16:26:58] <DrBunsen> danielh1234: Hmm, that looks
interesting, but that doesn't make me able to run Steam on the
other box and send the rendering to my current box(I do not want to
install non-free packages on my main machine).
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2496[16:28:09] <danielh1234> DrBunsen: As far as I understand it
that's exactly what it does. Which part do you believe not to
work that way?
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2498[16:29:18] <DrBunsen> danielh1234: I thought it would send
the OpenGL calls to the box and returns them. That implies that I
need steam on my main machine right?
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2507[16:32:01] <danielh1234> DrBunsen: The diagram under
"Using VirtualGL with X11 forwarding" shows a server (your
powerful PC) running both the application (Steam / game) and the
OpenGL rendering. You should only need an X server and VirtualGL
client on your main (pun intended) machine.
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2512[16:34:57] <DrBunsen> danielh1234: Ahh, silly me, I thought
the left one was the client...... But great that I need x11
forwarding, currently trying that out.
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2517[16:36:38] <danielh1234> DrBunsen: Depending on your reasons
not to install non-free software keep in mind that allowing
untrusted code to access to your X server is very bad security-wise.
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probably run it once, and steam is probably not too bad to run.
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2534[16:43:52] <ber532k> new-nick: did you try script?
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2542[16:45:16] <new-nick> What is script. Please give search term
to know about script
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2546[16:46:00] <new-nick> Just looking into asciinema. Not really
something I want.
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2549[16:47:17] <ber532k> try `man script`
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2551[16:47:45] <ber532k> it's just a small programm that
logs everything that happens in the terminal to a text file
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2552[16:47:48] <Antix_> Hi
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2555[16:49:26] <ber532k>
replaced-url
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2562[16:51:05] <likcoras> Hi, I'm using the 'pass'
password manager, it comes with a 'passmenu' script that
auto-types the passwords for me. However, when the password is
something like eg. `"password"blah` it types
`passwordblah`. I think there was a bug report with a workaround,
but I can't seem to find it.
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2563[16:51:12] <new-nick> ber532k: awesome man! Just what I
wanted. Simply super. A native application and get the job done
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2564[16:51:19] <new-nick> ber532k: thank you
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2565[16:52:13] <likcoras> The actual lin in the script that does
the typing is `xdotool - <<<"type --clearmodifiers --
$(pass show "$password" | head -n 1)"`, how would I
fix this so it handles passwords with all sorts of special
characters?
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2567[16:52:16] <ber532k> welcome
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2575[16:54:08] <new-nick> SwedeMike: thank you too, Asciinema is
not exactly useful to record and view.
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2578[16:55:55] <danielh1234> lindbergio: try `xdotool type
--clearmodifiers -- "$(pass show "$password" | head
-n 1)"` (untested)
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2581[16:56:19] <greycat> likcoras: that may be a bit too
specialized for #debian. What is "xdotool" and why is the
script passing a line with "type" and so on to it on
stdin?
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2583[16:56:37] <danielh1234> likcoras: ^, sorry lindbergio
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2586[16:57:39] <likcoras> greycat: xdotool is used to simulate
typing, from what I can tell, so it takes the password from
'pass' and types it to whatever I'm focused on.
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2592[16:58:08] <likcoras> danielh1234: will try, one sec.
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2594[16:58:31] <greycat> likcoras: it's literally receiving
the line "type ----clearmodifiers -- yourpassword" on
stdin
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2596[16:58:39] <danielh1234> likcoras: greycat is right tough,
passing it via - <<< seems overly complicated unless we are
missing something from the unknown context.
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2598[16:59:26] <likcoras>
replaced-url
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2600[17:01:34] <greycat> have you tried: xdotool type
--clearmodifiers "$(pass show "$password" | head -n
1)"
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2603[17:01:57] <likcoras> danielh1234: thanks, yours seems to be
working. But can you see any reason it's done the way it is
done in the git? I'm just worried that they did it that way
because of some edge case or something.
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2606[17:02:27] <DrBunsen>
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2607[17:02:28] <likcoras> greycat: yes, just tried it, seems to
be working with the previously problematic one.
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2608[17:02:29] <greycat> I'm basing that on
replaced-url
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2633[17:09:30] <new-nick> ber532k: just one question. I find
Script save the output the file after exiting. Some times, with
power failure, it would be better if the outputs saved as
"happening" rather than saved when exited.
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2635[17:10:22] <new-nick> option "-f, --flush run flush
after each write" is it something to use in order to save the
output on regular basis ?
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2638[17:10:51] <greycat> Sounds like it.
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2639[17:11:05] <greycat> Try It And See
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2642[17:11:52] <new-nick> its working. recording the output as
giving the commands/output
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2645[17:12:26] <danielh1234> likcoras: not really, the git link
you posted just got rid of the subshell with head and reads via pipe
which should not make a difference for typical password sizes. As
for the original version you gave I'm not even sure it handles
consecutive space etc correctly.
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2649[17:13:30] <greycat> danielh1234: well, you came up with the
same version I did, so it's a pretty good first guess...
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2650[17:13:47] <likcoras> Ah, alright. Time to figure out which
of my passwords were being typed wrong all this time... sigh.
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2651[17:13:55] <likcoras> Thanks for the help!
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2652[17:13:59] <danielh1234> np
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2654[17:14:24] <likcoras> Oh wait, I'm pretty sure this was
in a bug report before, but I can't seem to find it.
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2655[17:14:41] <likcoras>
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2674[17:19:38] <danielh1234> likcoras: Only if someone filed it
there or if it's a Debian specific bug. Normally the upstream
bug tracker is a good place to look as well but there does not seems
to be one in this case.
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2676[17:20:33] <likcoras> Huh. I guess I was mistaken, huh.
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2797[17:39:58] <celyr> we are under attack I repeat we are under
attack
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2798[17:40:08] <se1_> SOUND the alarm!
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2819[17:45:31] <toruvinn> under a tack?
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2827[17:48:18] <n_blownapart> hello on jessie 8 32 bit gnome ,
how do I reduce windows to the dock as in osX ? I'd like to see
a yellow button if possible
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2832[17:48:53] <n_blownapart> or what do you call that in linux
so I can read about it?
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2836[17:49:22] <mtn> n_blownapart: you would have to install a
dock, first
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2837[17:49:44] <n_blownapart> that's different from the side
bar ?
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2838[17:49:46] <n_blownapart> mtn
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2841[17:50:04] <xp> n_blownapart:
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2842[17:50:10] <mtn> n_blownapart: I assume so, it is in my mind.
what do you think you want?
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2847[17:51:00] <n_blownapart> I looked at elementary xp thanks. I
have an older machine and I'm super happy with debian 32bit.
just as similar to osX behavior as possible mtn
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2848[17:51:04] <webuser5224> What about that spam above?
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2851[17:51:46] <mtn> n_blownapart: you should be able to research
how to change it to your taste. gnome has extensions which may do
what you want or you will have to install a dock from the repos
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2853[17:51:54] <greycat> Talking about spam is almost as annoying
as spam itself. It's done. There's nothing more we can do
about it.
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2854[17:51:56] <danielh1234> webuser5224: It's just that:
Spam. Just ignore it.
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2857[17:52:34] <greycat> n_blownapart: there is also a #gnome
channel that may have more GNOME users than we do
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2858[17:52:50] <mtn> n_blownapart: this may help:
replaced-url
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2859[17:53:13] <n_blownapart> nice ! mtn greycat thanks
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2862[17:56:18] <n_blownapart> gnome layout manager script is in
alpha: use at your own risk. -- do you figure this is safe for an
older thinkpad 32 bit machine? I'm in Colombia now, if I screw
up my system I'll be .. screwed mtn
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2866[17:58:35] <mtn> n_blownapart: if you are so concerned, why
not leave your system looking like it is now? that would be safest
;)
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2867[17:59:23] <danielh1234> n_blownapart: and when you are in a
situation where you cannot easily obtain one, always have a live /
rescue CD / USB with you.
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2870[17:59:56] <n_blownapart> mtn I really just need the docking
feature, to click on the "yellow" button to send a window
to the background
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2872[18:00:24] <mtn> n_blownapart: your choice how you want to
use your machine. pretty or safe? your choice
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2874[18:00:46] <mtn> n_blownapart: do you mean you want a
minimize button?
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2875[18:01:07] <greycat> It sounded like a standard Windows 3.x
minimize to me.
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2878[18:01:40] <greycat> But I don't know anything about
GNOME or OS X.
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2879[18:01:42] <n_blownapart> mtn yeah
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2880[18:02:09] <mtn> n_blownapart: you can add a minize button
using tweak tool. it should already be installed
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2884[18:03:15] <john_rambo> I just install flash plugin by doing
>>>
replaced-url
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2893[18:05:33] <greycat> So now it's
"about:components" because Things Have To Change Because
Users Might Actually Not Be Confused If We Leave Them Alone
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2927[18:17:22] <dob1> hi, how can i specify in rsnapshot backup
directories with spaces in name?
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2928[18:18:01] <dob1> i tried to put \ before the space, but
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2953[18:26:24] <The-Dune> Hello all
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2958[18:29:14] <dob1> it's very weird... the configtest
gives me no errors, but running it , it fails when source dir have
spaces
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2961[18:29:40] <dob1> I can't believe that in 2017 a program
fails if there is spaces in the name..
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2962[18:29:43] <greycat> sounds like a bug
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2967[18:31:28] <TEA16> I always use _ or -
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2971[18:32:08] <greycat> You can't use spaces in mount point
names in /etc/fstab either, because the file is whitespace
delimited.
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2972[18:32:57] <greycat> scp fails very very hard if you put a
space in any pathname that is sent to a remote system. scp .bashrc
foo:/tmp/"test ing"
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2978[18:36:59] <dob1> considering that rsnapshot gives me config
ok and it check if the directory exists, when it generate the rsync
command it generates something like: /usr/bin/rsync -a --delete
--numeric-ids --relative --delete-excluded /tmp/a b
/backup/alpha.0/localhost/
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2979[18:37:02] <dob1> that fails
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2980[18:37:19] <dob1> just tried to put \ in the config file in
the path, quoting etc
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2986[18:38:14] <dob1> /tmp/a\ b/ is right
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2987[18:38:18] <greycat> bug #609443
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2988[18:38:19] <judd> Bug
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2991[18:39:00] <dob1> I am on the source directory but i think
it's the same
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2992[18:39:13] <dob1> it's 6 years old ? :)
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2996[18:41:50] <greycat> I don't know rsnapshot, but it
looks like 609443 only put a tiny band-aid on one instance of the
much deeper problem
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3011[18:47:21] <dob1> greycat, ok you can use _ for spaces in all
paths, but it's a bit weird, it seems to be in 1990, imho
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3013[18:47:39] <greycat> I'm not defending it. It's a
very obvious bug.
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3014[18:47:40] <dob1> you can't have a backup fail because
there is a space in a path
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3029[18:55:15] <Hello_World> Hi there, is someone familiar with
docker ?
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3030[18:55:38] <greycat> !anyone
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3032[18:55:38] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you,
knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'.
Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_
"does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about
<popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask>
<polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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3036[18:56:45] <Hello_World> Sorry, I need to fix this :
"Cannot connect to the Docker daemon. Is the docker daemon
running on this host?"
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3040[18:57:14] <qman__> that means the docker daemon is not
running
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3041[18:57:17] <Hello_World> I tried : sudo usermod -aG docker
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3042[18:57:20] <greycat> Make sure you gave it the right
hostname. Make sure docker is running on that host, and listening to
the correct network interface(s).
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3043[18:57:35] <Hello_World> ok
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3104[19:11:10] <Guest47131> hi
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3112[19:14:22] <Hello_World> fixed! thank you greycat ;)
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3124[19:19:48] <Guest47131> Planning to switch to Debian 9
Stable. Does debian get the latest Firefox updates?
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3125[19:20:15] <greycat> Stable releases track firefox-esr, which
is the semi-stable browser release series.
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3127[19:20:49] <greycat> (There is no such thing as a stable web
browser. Web browser developers do not care about that. They only
care about shiny and making numbers bigger.)
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3128[19:20:54] <jhutchins> Guest47131: If you think you need the
latest you can download it from mozilla.
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3132[19:21:08] <greycat> ,v firefox-esr
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3133[19:21:09] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 --
wheezy-security: 45.9.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1;
stretch: 45.9.0esr-1; jessie-backports/firefox-release:
52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; jessie-security: 52.2.0esr-1~deb8u1;
stretch-security: 52.2.0esr-1~deb9u1; sid: 52.2.0esr-1
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3135[19:21:28] <Guest47131> jhutchins, will that be fine with the
system's stability in the long run?
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3137[19:21:47] <greycat> If you download your own browser, then
you have to keep doing that every time you want to update it.
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3138[19:21:52] <greycat> It's your call.
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3141[19:22:09] <Guest47131> greycat, yeah, that's true, but
that will hardly take a moment
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3151[19:25:12] <maret> good morning channel, i am trying to
install nodejs od 7.1 debian but I am getting an error about unmet
depdencies and I am not really familiar with the issue enough.
Anyone could please find a second to take a look?
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3154[19:25:51] <greycat> ,v nodejs
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3155[19:25:52] <judd> Package: nodejs on amd64 --
wheezy-backports: 0.10.29~dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.10.29~dfsg-2;
jessie-backports: 4.8.2~dfsg-1~bpo8+1; sid: 4.8.2~dfsg-1; stretch:
4.8.2~dfsg-1; experimental: 6.11.0~dfsg-1
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3156[19:26:01] <greycat> "When experimental isn't
bleeding profusely enough..."
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3158[19:26:18] <lavenders1> why do i get 'system cant
recover error' when plugging my luks encrypted ssd into another
computer?
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3159[19:26:55] <maret> greycat: not sure I am following
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3162[19:27:11] <maret> is it possible to install 6.9.1 version at
all?
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3164[19:27:25] <greycat> I thought it was 7.1
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3166[19:27:44] <maret> node version 6.9.1 on 7.1 Debian
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3168[19:28:09] <greycat> ... what.
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3170[19:28:26] <greycat> a wheezy (oldstable) Debian that's
10 point releases behind current?
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3172[19:28:39] <greycat> and you want to install a bleeding edge
nodejs on it
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3179[19:29:25] <teraflops> maret: there's no
package/backport as the bot already pointed
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3181[19:29:37] <teraflops> for such version ^
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3182[19:29:54] <greycat> P.S. tomorrow, wheezy will no longer
even be oldstable. It will be older than oldstable.
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3183[19:30:02] <maret> teraflops: so there is no way to install
it ?!
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3185[19:30:25] <greycat> Is there a specific REASON you are
running a wheezy that is 10 point releases behind on security
patches?
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3186[19:30:26] <teraflops> maret: maybe
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3189[19:31:13] <Spec> greycat: ...is tomorrow the day?
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3191[19:31:17] <greycat> see /topic
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3192[19:31:24] <Spec> zomg
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3194[19:32:29] <maret> greycat: thats what is running on my lan
disk...
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3195[19:32:37] <teraflops> maret: but as greycat suggested if you
want upstream version idk why are you running old....stable
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3196[19:32:38] <maret> WD my cloud in particular...
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3198[19:32:53] <maret> I can take a look if they provided safe
update
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3199[19:33:21] <greycat> Can you first apply all the wheezy
security patches? Wheezy is up to 7.11 now.
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3200[19:34:26] <maret> yeap will take a look at that
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3203[19:34:49] <greycat> This is also worth looking into:
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3205[19:34:51] <greycat> !wheezy lts
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3206[19:34:52] <dpkg> Security support for Debian 7
"Wheezy" from the Debian Security Team ended on
2016-04-25. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures receive
additional long term support (LTS) via <wheezy/updates> until
2018-05-31. See
replaced-url
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3207[19:35:19] <maret> btw I am planning to install one sharing
program on that and I want to do it in safest way possible. I am not
linux expert so any recomendation what to do? So far I created
separate user just for that
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3212[19:38:14] <simpledat> Hi are anyone using vpnfailsafe here?
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3213[19:38:41] <petn-randall> !anyone
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3214[19:38:41] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you,
knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'.
Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_
"does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about
<popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask>
<polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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3241[19:48:54] <lavenders1> i fail to boot my luks encrypted
debian8 from ssd on another computer, while the original one is
fine. Is the HW somehow engraved in the system settings or is it
just luks?
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3247[19:50:00] <lavenders1> after entering the cryptsetup
password, it takes few secs then whitescreen with error notice
' system cant recover with that !smiley'
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3248[19:50:13] <missmbob> lavenders1: it should work. my guess is
one has efi and the other doesnt?
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3249[19:50:29] <missmbob> no, not if you get to that point.
sorry, dont know
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3251[19:51:08] <lavenders1> one has uefi yes, the original
doesnt, mmh
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3252[19:51:43] <lavenders1> is there some kind of fallback shell
i can recover from, grub shell maybe even?
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3257[19:52:39] <velix> 1 more day, 1 more day.
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3259[19:52:52] <missmbob> lavenders1: which iso did you use? the
live iso doesnt support efi
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3265[19:54:22] <petn-randall> lavenders1: You have to either boot
it in efi or legacy BIOS, whatever you used during installation.
It's a firmware limitation, Debian can't work around it.
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3267[19:55:01] <missmbob> petn-randall: *any* iso *but* live
supports efi, btw
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3271[19:55:34] <petn-randall> missmbob: I'm referring to
lavenders1 settings on the new system.
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3272[19:55:35] <lavenders1> so !live would be fine whether the
new computer has efi or legacy?
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3273[19:55:39] <missmbob> lavenders1: that was for you ^
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3276[19:56:17] <lavenders1> thank you i try to catch up on all
the new vocab
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3277[19:56:18] <missmbob> lavenders1: you shouldnt use live to
install at all. it has various known and unknown bugs
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3282[19:56:37] <simpledat> ERROR: Linux route add command failed:
external program exited with error status: 2
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3283[19:56:41] <simpledat> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
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3284[19:56:41] <simpledat> what does this mean?
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3285[19:56:50] <endersending> Anyone in here use zfs with Debian?
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3286[19:56:50] <lavenders1> i think i choose network install
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3287[19:57:09] <endersending> Is it fairly stable?
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3288[19:57:25] <missmbob> lavenders1: that should be fine with
efi
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3289[19:57:30] <koollman> simpledat: typically, you're
trying to add a route that is already there
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3293[19:57:54] <greycat> Or the route command failed for any
other reason, e.g. missing firmware.
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3294[19:58:02] <greycat> Though usually a firmware issue would
appear earlier.
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3296[19:58:12] <simpledat> koollman: so what should I do? I use
this
replaced-url
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