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4[00:02:47] <Epakai> i may have found it, not sure where this
file gets executed but it only runs xmodmap if $XKB_IN_USE
isn't set. Now i just don't know how to tell if xkb is in
use
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27[00:16:12] <kion> If I hit the program Log, it tels me
"unable to read system logs" what should be the normal
permits, I have 640 on my log files
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28[00:16:19] <kion> I think the 0 is my problem
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31[00:16:46] <kion> should I change all to 644
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33[00:17:46] <zoomm10> Hello, please the command mkfs -t ext4
is different from mount -t ext4?
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34[00:19:16] <mtn> zoomm10, very different
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35[00:19:18] <ozzloy> zoomm10, mkfs will make a filesystem
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36[00:19:19] <Epakai> zoomm10: mkfs creates a filesystem
(formats the partition), mount bind the partition to a directory so
its files can be accessed
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37[00:20:55] <zoomm10> why we need to use ext4 in mount
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42[00:21:53] <humbot> you don't usually NEED to specify
the filesystem
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72[00:25:32] <oty> ...
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73[00:25:36] <ozzloy> lol
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74[00:25:46] <ozzloy> wooOOoooOOOooo
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78[00:26:03] <zoomm10> thank you mtn, ozzloy, Epakai, humbot
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80[00:26:06] <teraflops> they will run out of ipv4 addresses
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86[00:26:38] <teraflops> I still dont get why debian is not +r
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88[00:26:39] <ozzloy> is there a mod around?
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105[00:28:23] <ozzloy> MODS!!
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111[00:29:08] <ozzloy> start banning?
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112[00:29:19] <ozzloy> oh maybe i suppressed those
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133[00:31:11] <teraflops> !ops please set +r till the spammers
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134[00:31:11] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
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148[00:33:13] <oo_miguel> i added the following line to
/etc/default/docker : DOCKER_OPTS='--userns-remap=miguel'
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150[00:33:18] <oo_miguel> but it seems to have no effect
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151[00:33:40] <oo_miguel> what am i doing wrong? i am restarting
the docker daemon via systemctl restart docker
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155[00:34:46] <forcerecon> is it normal to have 0% cpu
utilization in debian.. 99% of the time.. even when in irc.. nothing
on System monitor shows CPU
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156[00:34:49] <forcerecon> nothing..
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163[00:36:05] <teraflops> 0% is fine, idk what system monitor is
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166[00:36:47] <teraflops> try top or htop to see whether it
makes a difference
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171[00:38:57] <forcerecon> yeah not much... pretty nice
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172[00:38:58] <forcerecon> thanks
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176[00:39:58] <teraflops> forcerecon: that's fine indeed,
now run windows and look at the disk IO and cpu usage ^
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178[00:40:34] <forcerecon> yeah I know that.. for sure..
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179[00:40:39] <teraflops> crazy
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180[00:40:57] <bolt> upgrade to stretch went as smooth as can be
expected \o/ my fail2ban config is broken, i need to fix my
awesomewm rc.lua, and the command lines generated by libvirtd
changed enough for my watchdog scripts not to find the vm process,
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181[00:40:59] <forcerecon> I do wish I could test my video card
in linux though and at least see gpu temps. just once
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183[00:41:42] <teraflops> forcerecon: depending on the GPU and
the drivers you could
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185[00:42:03] <forcerecon> maybe -
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187[00:42:36] <teraflops> forcerecon: nah
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188[00:43:16] <teraflops> nvidia blob has utils for that, iirc
there's something for intel igpus too
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194[00:44:16] <teraflops> if you want to make a performance
tests there are other tools
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196[00:44:21] <teraflops> test
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197[00:44:27] <forcerecon> GLX-Gears
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198[00:44:39] <forcerecon> yeah I am checking them all out on a
search.. thanks for information though..
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201[00:44:52] <forcerecon> got me lots of option to search for
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202[00:44:54] <forcerecon> thanks
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204[00:45:41] <teraflops> glx-gears is not the right tool, there
are benchmarking tools for such purposes
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206[00:46:11] <teraflops> glmark2 and things like that
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207[00:46:13] <forcerecon> this looks promixing
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208[00:46:13] <forcerecon>
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217[00:48:25] <teraflops> forcerecon: but what I said way above
was about checking gpu temperatures
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222[00:50:16] <forcerecon> I hear ya.. that will show me
performance.. I want temps.. your information above is where I need
to be
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223[00:50:18] <forcerecon> thanks
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225[00:50:43] <teraflops> np
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247[01:06:36] <forcerecon>
file:///home/forcerecon/Downloads/Unigine_Heaven_Benchmark_4.0_20170703_1905.html
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248[01:06:41] <forcerecon> never got above 72c
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250[01:06:49] <forcerecon> whoops
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254[01:08:16] <forcerecon> Max FPS:
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255[01:08:18] <forcerecon> 118.2
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256[01:08:23] <forcerecon> FPS:
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257[01:08:25] <forcerecon> 62.0
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258[01:08:27] <forcerecon> Score:1961
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261[01:08:57] <forcerecon> showing my card as a 4MB but it is
8MB
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263[01:09:00] <forcerecon> otherwise, just fine
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264[01:09:30] <jushur> percived performance is more important
then actuall fps
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266[01:09:59] <jushur> keping fps abowe refresh is usually
desired tho
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267[01:10:19] <forcerecon> true.. card still cost 499 online..
so not bad.. I got it for a little more when it came out
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271[01:10:48] <jushur> but 8MB sounds a bit low? you mean 8GB?
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272[01:11:43] <jushur> or its kinda old one?
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273[01:11:52] <PhotoJim> are there issues with the new Stretch
amd64 install disc? new install on an AMD64 laptop. Grub fails to
boot. Manual rescue: "mount: can't find /root in
/etc/fstab". /etc/fstab has no such entry. Live boot, chroot,
all seems OK. regen initrd and update-grub, but same problem.
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274[01:12:01] <PhotoJim> Google is giving me nothing useful as
to how to fix this.
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275[01:12:26] <missmbob> PhotoJim: dont use live iso. it's
known to be broken. use any other iso
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276[01:12:34] <forcerecon> 14-487-084 VGA EVGA|04G-P4-3988-KR GF
GTX 980 - 699.00 wow..
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277[01:12:40] <ozzloy>
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279[01:13:02] <PhotoJim> missmbob: I'm using
debian-9.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso ... that's not the live one is
it?
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280[01:13:03] <forcerecon> heh.. it is 4GB
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281[01:13:06] <cef> fwiw: higher rendered fps can be very useful
in network games. with everything fixed at 60, you get whatever the
network said was current when that first frame was rendered and
nothing since. with higher, you get whatever the last frame rendered
shows, which might be newer info than you'd otherwise see.
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282[01:13:08] <forcerecon> I thought it was more
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283[01:13:18] <ozzloy> not sure what to do, any help appreciated
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285[01:13:24] <missmbob> PhotoJim: how'd you copy the iso
to usb?
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288[01:13:53] <PhotoJim> missmbob: dd bs=1k
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291[01:14:05] <cef> with fixed 60fps, you could be almost 1/60th
of a second behind what the network traffic is actually giving you,
which adds up in games where lag is important, even if you have a
low ping.
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292[01:14:26] <jushur> forcerecon: 8GB is mostly reserved for
cards aimed at 4K resolution gaming and such.
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294[01:15:45] <jushur> cef: you are correct, tho if the game
manufacturer coded properly they will detect you are capped at 60
and have proper adjustment in their gamecode to fit that.
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295[01:16:05] <forcerecon> I just wish my game was ported to
linux.. I got steam working on linux but the game is not available
to play
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296[01:16:06] <forcerecon> shame
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297[01:16:10] <forcerecon> sniper elite 4
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298[01:16:12] <forcerecon> bah..
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299[01:16:17] <forcerecon> thanks for the information everyone
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300[01:16:19] <forcerecon> have a great night
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303[01:16:44] <PhotoJim> missmbob: Maybe I should just install
Jessie and do a dist-upgrade instead
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306[01:17:15] <kneekoo> forcerecon: have you tried installing
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307[01:17:41] <jushur> PhotoJim: what exact laptop is it? model
and its detailed device nr
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308[01:17:54] <cef> jushur: err how? they'd need to
re-render the frame, which unless you can be absolutely sure the
frame you pass will render in an exact time, and also fire that
render off at exactly the right time, you will never have it. the
only way to reliably get it is to just keep rendering as fast as you
can and only display the latest when the image is needed.
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311[01:18:15] <PhotoJim> jushur: HP Pavilion 14-N028CA.
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312[01:18:56] <nvz> I am able to play audio with mpsyt (youtube
commandline client), but pianobar (pandora), and mpg123 or mpg321
all are not working without error what could be the problem? there
are two devices one is analog the other is hdmi, i have hdmi set as
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328[01:27:26] <forcerecon> kneekoo: actually not yet... that is
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329[01:27:32] <forcerecon> I might do that next.. thanks
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360[01:43:18] <zoomm10> Hi, please the command: mount /dev/sdb
/home i understand, shows the file of "sdb"to
"home" dir. The command: mount /home ?
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363[01:46:07] <Zharf> zoomm10, it's defined in /etc/fstab
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364[01:46:38] <Zharf> man fstab
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365[01:46:45] <zoomm10> Thank you Zharf...
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366[01:47:06] <zoomm10> it is clear now....thank you
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378[01:52:54] <TinkerTiger> Has anyone reported issues with
Debian 9 and USB?
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383[01:53:59] <nvz> I haven't seen this anyone
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386[01:54:57] * TinkerTiger nods.
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387[01:55:36] <ozzloy>
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393[01:58:32] <TinkerTiger> Well, I'm going to continue my
testing. Also, good luck with MariaDB. I've neve used it.
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394[01:58:51] <ozzloy> i don't really care about it, but
it's blocking me from using apt-get now
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396[01:58:57] <ozzloy> so i can't even apt-get remove it
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398[01:59:22] <ozzloy> i'd be fine with going back to mysql
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399[01:59:27] <nvz> ozzloy: is it third party?
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401[01:59:34] <ozzloy> no
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404[01:59:50] <TinkerTiger> MariaDB is canon now.
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407[02:00:28] <nvz> ozzloy: my suggestion is either let aptitude
try fix it or paste the full output from apt on paste.debian.net
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409[02:00:38] <PhotoJim> the 8.x install image doesn't work
on this HP Pavilion machine either. Same error as 9.0.0.
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412[02:01:03] <nvz> PhotoJim: what errors?
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414[02:01:19] <ozzloy> nvz, i pasted the full output from apt on
replaced-url
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416[02:01:32] <nvz> ozzloy: thats fine
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418[02:02:07] <PhotoJim> nvz: Grub goes straight to rescue mode.
invoking rescue commands results in a failure to mount /root, which
must be in the initrd because that's not in the fstab. doing a
live rescue boot, chrooting, and regening initrd does nothing to
cure it.
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422[02:03:55] <ozzloy>
replaced-url
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427[02:07:01] <nvz> ozzloy: try dpkg --configure -a
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428[02:07:11] <ozzloy> k
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430[02:07:36] <nvz> ozzloy: fwiw paste.debian.net is not only
not https so it loads faster but its cleaner interface
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434[02:09:52] <nvz> this issue seems to be with ejabberd not
mariadb
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436[02:11:58] <ozzloy>
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439[02:13:02] <ozzloy> nvz, it's both of them. it seems the
real issue is with NO_NEW_PRIVILEGES. during an upgrade, mariadb
failed and i aborted it thinking i could deal with it after the
other upgrades finished
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440[02:13:35] <ozzloy> and now i'm unable to use apt-get
{upgrade,remove,bla}
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442[02:14:29] <ozzloy> ejabberd is coming up at the top. maybe
it's the real issue, but i'm not sure
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444[02:14:57] <nvz> ozzloy: the huge dependency unconfigured
thing is ejabberd the mariadb isnt breaking your package system
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445[02:15:22] <nvz> ozzloy: apt-get --autoremove remove ejabberd
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447[02:15:53] <ozzloy> i'll try that, but ejabberd
isn't the only thing in the output
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448[02:15:57] <nvz> then file a bug against it
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449[02:15:59] <ozzloy> mariadb is in there too
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450[02:16:18] <ozzloy> and mariadb was the initial thing to fail
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456[02:18:24] <nvz> then add it to the list of packages to
remove
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457[02:18:35] <nvz> and file bugs against them
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458[02:18:37] <ozzloy>
replaced-url
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459[02:18:47] <ozzloy> i see
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462[02:19:14] <ozzloy> bugs where i paste the output of apt-get
upgrade?
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464[02:19:47] <nvz> the mariadb thing is what i think of as a
clean break.. putting exit 0 at top of its post inst config would
make it install and leave the package system in tact
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465[02:19:48] <ozzloy> i'll definitely file a bug if i
think i can provide useful info about what happened
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468[02:21:15] <nvz> ozzloy: in a bug report you want as much
info as possible since this is a package broken you want all that
info you pasted plus your sources.list should be sufficient to
reproduce the issue
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470[02:21:48] <nvz> ozzloy: reportbug would also pull in
versions of all packages and dependencies
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471[02:22:10] <zoomm10> ozzloy: try dpkg --configure -a apt-get
clean apt-get install -f
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474[02:22:22] <nvz> ozzloy: but the source and error is enough
reallu in this case
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476[02:23:04] <nvz> zoomm10: we did that already the packages
are broken, postinst script errors
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478[02:23:40] <nvz> apt-get -f install only helps continue an
operation if dpkg --configure -a succeeds and it didnt
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479[02:24:41] <nvz> so you have to remove or satisfy the
postinst script errors or put exit 0 at the top of them and make
them return clean, which doesnt really fix anything but your package
db
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480[02:25:21] <nvz> it leaves your packages not fully configured
but installllled with a happy dpkg
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483[02:26:00] <Atm0spher1c> can apt find packages that
suggest/recommend another package?
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484[02:26:42] <Atm0spher1c> I mean find packages that
suggest/recommend <package>
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485[02:29:02] <nvz> there is some reverse depends thing
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486[02:29:08] <nvz> !rdepends
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487[02:29:08] <dpkg> somebody said rdepends was apt-cache
rdepends foo; shows you what depends on foo
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489[02:29:23] <nvz> !rsuggests
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490[02:29:42] <nvz> idk try rdpends?
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493[02:31:08] <nvz> you could do some grepping for it otherwise
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495[02:32:09] <nvz> apparently package cache is binary now
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497[02:32:31] <Atm0spher1c> nvz, package cache?
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498[02:32:38] <Atm0spher1c> apt-cache?
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502[02:34:56] <ozzloy> nvz, zoomm10: yay! apt-get upgrade works
now!
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503[02:35:21] <ozzloy> can i get some help filing a bug?
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504[02:35:27] <ozzloy> bug(s)?
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505[02:35:35] <ozzloy> not even sure if this is more than one
bug
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506[02:35:53] <Atm0spher1c> nvz, yeah rdepends works. Using apt
instead of apt-cache will show suggests and recommends
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507[02:35:57] <Atm0spher1c> thank you
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512[02:37:03] <Atm0spher1c> apt-cache will show them too, but
apt will explicitly state which packge is recommended or suggested
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513[02:37:38] <nvz> ozzloy: its two bugs to be certain put
ejabberd and mariadb back seperately
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515[02:38:44] <nvz> ozzloy: apt-get install ejabberd if that
fails file a bug against it and apt-get --autoremove remove ejabberd
and then do the same for mariadb
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516[02:38:58] <ozzloy> kk
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518[02:40:42] <zoomm10> ozzlou: download from:
replaced-url
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519[02:41:23] <ozzloy>
replaced-url
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520[02:42:18] <ozzloy> zoomm10, i might do that, but i'd
rather use debian's tools than learn about the install/keep
up-to-date process
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524[02:45:13] <missmbob> !dont break debian
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526[02:45:13] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, dont break
debian is
replaced-url
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535[02:50:39] <zoomm10> ozzloy: run apt-get --force-yes install
ejabberd
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541[02:53:14] <nvz> ozzloy: check the recommended commands for
more information about why its failing to start
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542[02:53:59] <nvz> your real problem may be something thats
causing all the packages to break
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543[02:54:20] <nvz> I'd also look at the tail end of
/var/log/daemon.log
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547[02:54:54] <leibniz> yooooo is strech good?
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548[02:55:34] <nvz> nope it sucks, use gentoo.. thats what we
recommend in #debian
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549[02:56:12] <GrimKriegor> LOL
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550[02:56:15] <nvz> heh
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551[02:56:22] <leibniz> gentoo is hard to install
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552[02:56:29] <leibniz> i would rather use freebsd
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553[02:56:33] <nvz> a dumb question deserves a dumb answer
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554[02:56:41] <GrimKriegor> freebsd has a cuck license
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555[02:56:55] <leibniz> strech is good is not a dumb question
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556[02:57:05] <leibniz> nvz you need to chill
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557[02:57:05] <nvz> yes it is
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558[02:57:09] <nvz> !good
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559[02:57:10] <missmbob> stretch live sucks
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561[02:57:28] <nvz> !best
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562[02:57:28] <dpkg> Best for what? Please define what you mean
by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin!
Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play!
Anyone for Tennis!
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563[02:58:00] <nvz> leibniz: im so chill you could store a side
of beef in me
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565[02:58:22] <nvz> leibniz: this is #debian if we didnt like
debian we wouldnt be here
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566[02:58:28] <leibniz> nah
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567[02:58:35] <ozzloy>
replaced-url
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568[02:58:39] <excelsiora> hi!
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569[02:58:45] <ozzloy> would this be good for a bug report?
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570[02:58:49] <nvz> asking us if its good, nice, or anything
else is a really dumb question
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571[02:58:54] <leibniz> i wanted to talk about the positives and
negatives to stretch
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573[02:59:08] <leibniz> yet you act like that was a stupid
question
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574[02:59:14] <leibniz> because you are an idiot
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575[02:59:15] <nvz> leibniz: as opposed to other debian
versions?
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576[02:59:19] <missmbob> !chat
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577[02:59:19] <dpkg> This is not a chat channel, this is a
Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support
question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows
on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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579[02:59:37] <nvz> no it is a stupid question it not specific
and its not a support question
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580[02:59:42] <leibniz> positives and negatives to strech
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582[02:59:52] <nvz> we dont do that here
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583[03:00:02] <leibniz> should i have updated from jessie?
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584[03:00:04] <nvz> there is a why debian document online
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585[03:00:37] <excelsiora> yay, support - so I'm trying to
checkinstall python - and it's giving me an error about a
shared recipe. make install works, but I'm trying to use
checkinstall because it's "better" - any suggestions?
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586[03:01:07] <somiaj> excelsiora: what do you mean by
checkinstall python? Are you trying to install a different version
of python than comes with your system.
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587[03:01:09] <nvz> if you have to ask then the answer is no,
because you are happy with jessie and everything works so there is
no reason you should upgrade because jessie still gets updates and
you have no technical issues
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588[03:01:25] <excelsiora> it's the same error as this
guy's:
replaced-url
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589[03:01:34] <somiaj> Desktop systems have a year until jessie
security support is disconinued.
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590[03:02:01] <ozzloy> excelsiora, might be a question for
#python maybe?
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591[03:02:03] <somiaj> excelsiora: you do not want to install a
version of python different than comes with your version of debian.
System scripts depend on the version shipped with debian, chaning
this could have side effects.
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593[03:02:35] <somiaj> excelsiora: I think there is a way to use
a locally compiled python binary (not in $PATH) in a python virtual
enviorment if the version that comes with debian is not sufficent
for your needs.
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594[03:02:46] <excelsiora> I've gotten some contributions
into cpython - so I need to be able to build it and use a locally
built copy.
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596[03:03:20] <somiaj> excelsiora: maybe use a chroot, a vm, or
set up a python virtual enviroment for this.
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597[03:04:12] <somiaj> excelsiora: but debian system scripts and
package scripts depend on python. Changing the default version in
debian can have unwanted consequences and is not suggested (thus
supported here)
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598[03:04:19] <excelsiora> I'm building 3.7 in a Linode
Stretch. If I break it, no big deal.
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602[03:05:23] <excelsiora> I finally got emacs to build
(I'm using it as an IRC client right now. :))
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603[03:05:58] <ozzloy> excelsiora, good job getting emacs to
build!
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604[03:06:13] <ozzloy> and getting patches into cpython
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605[03:06:20] <ozzloy> keep up the good work
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607[03:06:44] <excelsiora> thanks, I want to - but is
checkinstall not as good as advertised?
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609[03:07:19] <excelsiora> it's got a sketchy home page,
but 3rd parties seem to call it a "best practice"
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610[03:08:08] <excelsiora> One issue is that it doesn't
seem to be able to mkdir missing dirs even when it has sudo.
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613[03:09:22] <somiaj> excelsiora: If I were to use a different
version of python I would do something along the lines of
replaced-url
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614[03:09:39] <ozzloy> leibniz, fwiw, i think your question
sounds like it fits into this channel to me
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615[03:09:49] <somiaj> excelsiora: I may not set the version as
global, but that would be more the way I would go as opposed ot
using check-isntall
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616[03:09:53] <excelsiora> I was up until 4 AM trying to build
and install both emacs and cpython, but checkinstall was only able
to install emacs after I used make install (which I think made the
required dirs)
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617[03:10:02] <ozzloy> leibniz, maybe #debian-offtopic is the
"right" venue
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618[03:10:12] <nvz> ozzloy: correct
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620[03:10:51] <somiaj> excelsiora: I haven't used
check-install, it should work. There is also stow if you want to try
some other peice of software to manage locally isntalled software in
/usr/local
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621[03:11:07] <zoomm10> ozzloy: try to change the
"Environment=HOME=/var/lib/ejabberd " to
"#Environment=HOME=/var/lib/ejabberdin" in
/usr/lib/systemd/system/ejabberd.service
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622[03:11:10] <Colloguy> when dual-booting, should there be a
common /boot for all OSes?
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624[03:11:42] <somiaj> excelsiora: So I can't really say
what is needed to get check-install working. Someone else maybe able
to help with that. Though as mentioned I would not suggest
installing python that way, use a python virtual enviroment instead.
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628[03:12:20] <somiaj> Colloguy: you will most likely want a
/boot for each linux based os you boot to.
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630[03:12:21] <ozzloy> zoomm10, so comment out the environment
line?
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631[03:12:32] <somiaj> Colloguy: You can use a common efi
partition if using efi boot though.
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633[03:12:45] <excelsiora> ok, well now that I think of it, the
dev guide seemed to say not to install it...
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634[03:13:17] <zoomm10> yes ozzloy, just try
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635[03:13:18] <ozzloy> zoomm10, that file doesn't exist
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636[03:13:25] <nvz> Colloguy: can be, doesnt have to be. dont
even need a /boot. there are pros and cons
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638[03:14:10] <zoomm10> maybe the file exist on
/etc/systemd/system/ejabberd.service
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639[03:14:25] <ozzloy> should i attempt an install, have it
fail, edit the file (which will exist at that point?) and then retry
install?
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640[03:14:27] <nvz> Colloguy: the common boot would allow
distros to be aware of one another for ubdating the bootloader but
at the same time they wouldnt respect one another's files
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641[03:14:32] <ozzloy> oh
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642[03:14:37] <ozzloy> i'll check there
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643[03:14:56] <nvz> Colloguy: and if they had different versions
of the bootloader that could cause compatibility issues.
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645[03:15:27] <excelsiora> ok, maybe I really messed up, can I
uninstall what I make installed?
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646[03:15:43] <ozzloy> zoomm10,
/etc/systemd/system/ejabberd.service is a symlink to /dev/null
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647[03:15:43] <excelsiora> Or do I need to blow away my server
and start over?
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649[03:16:07] <Colloguy> nvz: I've actually naively had a
shared /boot before but the one OS made it so the others didn't
boot, I remember running autoremove.
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651[03:16:09] <nvz> Colloguy: you could do a master /boot that
chainloads the /boot on each rootfs
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652[03:16:09] <ozzloy> take a deep breath before blowing away
your server
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653[03:16:12] <excelsiora> I did it as a sudoer user...
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657[03:16:38] <somiaj> excelsiora: some software comes with a
'make uninstall' script to uninstall stuff, not all.
check-install is supose to help with this, though you could also
look into stow if check-install doesn't seem to work for you
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658[03:16:46] <ozzloy> nvz, i'm installing reportbug to
report the bug
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659[03:16:55] <Colloguy> nvz: that sounds kinda ugly and
inefficient?
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662[03:17:32] <nvz> ozzloy: its not required it just helps
compile a report, you can just email submit@bugs.debian.org with
proper header
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663[03:17:42] <Colloguy> nvz: nvm, misunderstood what you meant.
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664[03:18:04] <excelsiora> somiaj: but checkinstall never worked
for Python... :(
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666[03:18:25] <excelsiora> which is why I wonder if I should
have even bothered...
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669[03:19:10] <nvz> Colloguy: multibooting linux is as you
noticed prone to issues of this nature having a boot partiton that
chainloads the /boot of each linux distro keeps them all happily
seperate without need to update the real bootloader because each os
updates its own
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671[03:19:39] <somiaj> excelsiora: again use pythong virtual
enviorment
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675[03:20:11] <somiaj> Colloguy: or just use efi boot and your
firmwars boot choice option can serve as your boot manager
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678[03:21:19] <excelsiora> somiaj: I agree. I'll do so. but
now I need to uninstall... :/
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679[03:22:15] <excelsiora> make uninstall doesn't do it...
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680[03:22:31] <excelsiora> do I need to immediately sudo apt-get
install python after doing the uninstall?
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681[03:22:53] <debuser> I want to build a debian live image
based on my dotfiles, did anyone try this please?
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682[03:23:03] <excelsiora> (anyone familiar with installing a
haskell dev environment btw?)
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683[03:23:08] <Colloguy> nvz: huh, I'm more interested in
the /boot chainloading. Thanks for the idea.
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686[03:23:27] <excelsiora> or should I just do sudo apt-get
install python before doing anything else?
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689[03:25:57] <nvz> debuser: yes and someone made something
called bootcd to do it
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690[03:26:02] <nvz> !bootcd
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691[03:26:17] <nvz> ,info bootcd
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692[03:26:18] <judd> Package bootcd (utils, extra) in
stretch/amd64: run your system from cd without need for disks.
Version: 5.05; Size: 96.1k; Installed: 426k
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693[03:26:22] <excelsiora> python is 2.7, system python still
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694[03:26:32] <excelsiora> python3 is the 3.7 that I built
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696[03:26:51] <excelsiora> what in debian stretch uses python3?
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697[03:27:04] <excelsiora> (stuff shouldn't break, but
still)
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699[03:27:16] <ozzloy> nvz, does "header" mean
"subject line"?
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701[03:27:54] <missmbob> excelsiora: python3 is 3.5.3
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702[03:27:56] <nvz> ozzloy: no it requires a specific header the
bts recognizes which includes package name, version, severity, etc
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703[03:28:15] <excelsiora> missmbob: yes, so how do I restore?
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705[03:28:23] <ozzloy> nvz, can i use gmail to write such a
message?
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706[03:28:29] <excelsiora> (feeling kinda dumb)
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707[03:28:37] <missmbob> excelsiora: restore? heh. wipe your vps
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708[03:28:59] <ozzloy> perhaps there's a bugreport webpage
that will tell me what to do
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709[03:28:59] <excelsiora> :/ .... ok, but I want to try to fix
this first
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711[03:29:35] <nvz> ozzloy: bugs.debian.org
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712[03:29:36] <excelsiora> good practice, right? how do I script
a vps setup, anyways?
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713[03:29:42] <zoomm10> ozzloy: check this:
replaced-url
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715[03:29:57] <nvz> ozzloy: explainations of headers and such
are on the main page
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718[03:30:20] <missmbob> excelsiora: linode lets your backup
snapshots. just take a snapshot before you're going to do
something weird
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719[03:30:45] <excelsiora> nah - this isn't prod, just me
learning.
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720[03:31:10] <debuser> Thanks nvz and judd!
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722[03:31:34] <nvz> zoomm10: you do realize the issue here was
not installing these packages but fixing the package system and
learning to use debian, and you keep giving bad advice that could
lead to thing we wont support here right?
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723[03:32:02] <excelsiora> *moves fast and breaks his own things
so he can be more productive at work*
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724[03:32:44] <ozzloy> zoomm10, my goal right now is not to
install ejabberd
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727[03:32:57] <excelsiora> so... scripting a vps setup?
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728[03:32:58] <ozzloy> zoomm10, but i might check that later
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729[03:33:04] <excelsiora> just a bash script?
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730[03:33:59] <zoomm10> i read the error and says: Package
ejabberd is not configured yet.
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734[03:40:16] <ozzloy> zoomm10, thanks! it's true ejabberd
isn't configured yet. i think that's related to the
NO_NEW_PRIVILEGES thing in the error output, and possibly is related
to mariadb failing with the same error
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736[03:40:32] <ozzloy> zoomm10, but at the moment, i'm not
pursuing the installation of ejabberd
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738[03:43:51] <zoomm10> ozzloy: dpkg: error processing package
mariadb-server-10.1 (--configure): subprocess installed
post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg:
dependency problems prevent configuration of ejabberd-contrib:
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740[03:44:54] <nvz> zoomm10: please stop trolling
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742[03:45:42] <zoomm10> nvz: i am explaining the error? you dont
know what is trolling...
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747[03:47:04] <nvz> zoomm10: 1) youre not explaining anything,
2) both myself and ozzloy pointed out to you that the issue is
resolved. this user did not want mariadb to begin with, just wanted
the package system back to functioning
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768[04:01:41] <uxfi> Does Debian ship with Hexchat or Xchat?
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771[04:02:09] <tx> yes
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772[04:02:25] <tx> (both)
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774[04:02:38] <tx> though it looks like since stretch
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775[04:02:42] <tx> xchat is out of the running.
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782[04:06:58] <dvs> ,v hexchat
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783[04:06:59] <judd> Package: hexchat on amd64 --
wheezy-backports: 2.10.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.10.1-1+deb8u1;
jessie-backports: 2.12.4-3~bpo8+1; buster: 2.12.4-3; sid: 2.12.4-3;
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791[04:11:04] <cef> ,v linux-image-amd64
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792[04:11:05] <judd> Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 --
wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63;
jessie-backports: 4.9+80~bpo8+1; sid: 4.9+80; stretch: 4.9+80;
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799[04:16:04] <lezsakdomi> Hi! In what stage is the locale set
by default on debian?
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817[04:23:21] <default> Is it time to upgrade to testing yet, or
wait still?
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818[04:23:37] <dvs> upgrade to testing?
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819[04:23:46] <default> From Stable.
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820[04:24:18] <dvs> There's never a "good" time.
Testing is (almost) always in a state of flux
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822[04:25:15] <default> Right. I guess stable is okay, but the
packages source code was found in the basement of the pyramids.
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823[04:25:39] <dvs> Not lately
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827[04:27:24] <default> I heard that stable packages won't
be upgraded until Buster, except for security fixes.
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834[04:29:58] <dvs> default, that's mostly true, unless it
has been backported.
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839[04:31:53] <default> So, if Buser is 2-3 years away,
that's some mighty stale packages. So that's why I'm
thinking of going testing.
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842[04:33:08] <dvs> why? are there any current packages that
don't work?
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843[04:33:51] <default> Well, rsync has a 'serious'
bug.
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844[04:34:38] <dvs> if the bug is serious enough, it might be
fixed in a minor update.
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846[04:36:45] <default> Right. But I am thinking that testing
might mean fresher packages, but not re-install-your-system bugs
like in unstable.
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848[04:37:50] <dvs> default, those types of problem still could
happen in testing but they are much less likely to happen.
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850[04:38:53] <default> Understood. Just mulling it over.
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852[04:39:48] <dvs> I'd much rather have a working system
than have the latest and "greatest" versions of packages.
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854[04:40:22] <default> BTW, I do try to be obsessive about
backing up my data. You can always re-install, but you can't
buy new data at any price.
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860[04:41:25] <An0n_L1te> Hiya
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861[04:42:03] <default> BTW, where is everyone? 1,613 people
here and 2 people talking.
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862[04:42:20] <An0n_L1te> like all the irc channels I'm in
xD
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863[04:42:41] <default> What is xD?
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864[04:42:47] <An0n_L1te> Laughing face
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865[04:42:58] <default> Oh, Okay.
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866[04:43:01] <An0n_L1te> remember the old bricks where you
didn't have smilies?
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868[04:43:18] <default> Not really.
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869[04:43:29] <An0n_L1te> Ah, good ol' days
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870[04:44:16] <default> Usually on #Debian there are several
discussion going on at the same time.
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872[04:44:20] <An0n_L1te> default, what IRC client do you use?
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874[04:44:57] <default> An0n_l1te: hexchat.
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876[04:45:48] <An0n_L1te> Yea, I was just testing security on
that earlier
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878[04:46:33] <default> Did it pass?
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880[04:46:44] <An0n_L1te> no
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881[04:46:44] <An0n_L1te> read pm
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887[04:51:44] <An0n_L1te> How long have you been using linux
default?
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888[04:52:03] <An0n_L1te> kryptoz, I would suggest a proxy bro
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889[04:52:11] <default> Since the 1990s.
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891[04:52:38] <An0n_L1te> A while longer than me then :P
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892[04:53:09] <An0n_L1te> I was born 2000 so yea xD
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893[04:53:34] <kryptoz> An0n_L1te: a proxy ? for ldap search?
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894[04:53:46] <default> Youngster. :)
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895[04:53:50] <kryptoz> by the way, i figured my issue yesterday
itself :)
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897[04:54:55] <An0n_L1te> It's when you joined it shows
your ip
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898[04:55:21] <Atm0spher1c> An0n_L1te, what about hexchat?
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900[04:56:10] <default> Is tehr a setting in hexchat that can
mask your ip?
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902[04:56:16] <An0n_L1te> Yes
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903[04:56:46] <hanasaki> how do you determine what kernel module
is driving the bluetooth and wifi?
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904[04:56:46] <default> Buy a vowel?
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905[04:56:50] <An0n_L1te> Settings -> Preferences ->
Network Setup -> Proxy
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907[04:57:12] <An0n_L1te> 173.199.70.45 port 29282 is the free
one I'm using
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908[04:58:00] <An0n_L1te> Be back in a sec guys
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910[04:58:13] <default> An0n_l1te: suggested settings?
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911[04:58:54] <Atm0spher1c> hmm, doesnt seem like that's
the proxy he's using
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913[04:59:34] <Atm0spher1c> default, ignore his bs
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914[04:59:50] <Atm0spher1c> get your own proxy
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917[05:00:49] <default> Atm0spher1c: Okay, I'll check into
that.
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924[05:04:57] <An0n_L1te> back
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926[05:06:01] <An0n_L1te> default you still here?
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927[05:06:09] <default> Yes.
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931[05:07:35] <An0n_L1te> Oh just realised you can run local
python scripts in hexchat
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938[05:14:23] <An0n_L1te> Anyone actually on?
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941[05:15:29] <solrize> hi i booted stretch from a live iso
install and tried rather hard to bring up my intel centrino wifi
2200N card which is supposed to be supported by iwlwifi, but
iwconfig never found the card. any idea?
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945[05:16:35] <solrize> i did all the stuff on the iwlwifi wiki
page
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948[05:16:52] <excelsiora> hi
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950[05:17:54] <An0n_L1te> Hiya
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952[05:18:35] <monkwitdafunk> hi
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956[05:20:16] <excelsiora> hmmm... if you build python from
source you can do `make altinstall` and it's supposed to not
overwrite an earlier install...
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957[05:20:26] <An0n_L1te> lesson learnt, hexchat does not like
time.sleep
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959[05:20:43] <An0n_L1te> I've got all python's
installed
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963[05:26:02] <Atm0spher1c> solrize, any logs to post?
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965[05:26:50] <Atm0spher1c> solrize, is iwlwifi installed on the
liive iso? also i've heard there are some bugs with the live
iso
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967[05:27:08] <Atm0spher1c> solrize, try just installing from an
install iso (not live iso)
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969[05:28:59] <An0n_L1te> do you mean iwlist?
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970[05:29:40] <Atm0spher1c> no dude
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976[05:31:15] <solrize_> Atm0spher1c, crud, i got disconnected
after you asked if i had any logs to post, so if you said anything
after that, please repeat. my reply was:
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977[05:31:18] <solrize_> can't get to them now, but there
was nothing useful in dmesg. it just showed the name of the device
when i ran modprobe. modinfo showed the driver info though
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978[05:31:25] <solrize_> machine is a thinkpad x230. wonder if i
can swap out the wifi card for a different one that works better
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980[05:31:48] <Atm0spher1c> solrize_, is iwlwifi installed on
the liive iso? also i've heard there are some bugs with the
live iso?
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981[05:31:56] <Atm0spher1c> solrize, try just installing from an
install iso (not live iso)
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984[05:33:06] <flingtoad> Atm0sher1c, Your best bet for wifi on
the install iso is to use the non-free iso:
replaced-url
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985[05:33:22] <solrize_> hmm, i dunno about bugs. i had to
apt-get install iwlwifi because it includes non-free driver blobs.
can't install from iso to hard disk right now, because
don't want to wipe my drive. i have another drive that's
not here that i was planning to swap in
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986[05:33:57] <Atm0spher1c> flingtoad, wtf man, read it.
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987[05:34:43] <solrize_> well might try later after swapping in
the new drive
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988[05:34:44] <flingtoad> Atm0spheri1c, I just got here, man.
I've only seen your previous 2 messages.
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989[05:34:55] <solrize_> flingtoad yeah we've somewhat been
over that
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990[05:35:17] <Atm0spher1c> solrize_, well was it installed or
not? debian (most distros) work great these days. I would think
especially on that hardware of yours
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991[05:35:45] <Atm0spher1c> flingtoad, my messages were
responses to another user
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993[05:36:01] <solrize_> no it wasn't installed, the debian
distros don't include anything non-free iirc. i'm cool
with that and i added non-free to apt-sources to do the iwlwifi
install andsaw it actually downloaded stuff
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994[05:36:12] <flingtoad> Atm0spher1c, I've said all I have
to say. If it doesn't help, ignore it.
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999[05:37:20] <solrize_> flingtoad, thanks for the good
intentions but yeah, it didn't help
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1002[05:38:41] <somiaj> excelsiora: the make install should have
installed things in /usr/local, if you just delete the files in
/usr/local/bin, /usr/local/share, etc from python, the $PATH should
pick up the system one again.
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1005[05:39:11] <solrize_> i also bought a usb wifi dongle that
supposedly works with linux, and it connects but loses connection
almost instantly
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1010[05:40:08] <Atm0spher1c> solrize_, which one
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1011[05:40:28] <Atm0spher1c> solrize_, check - lsusb, lspci for
more info
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1012[05:40:43] <solrize_> didn't find anything from lspci
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1014[05:41:18] <solrize_> usb dongle is this one:
replaced-url
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1015[05:41:21] <Atm0spher1c> you sure its supported?
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1021[05:42:33] <solrize_> the dongle? well it kind of works.
i'm not too worried thouugh, it's just a stopgap, i hoped
to get the intel card working
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1022[05:43:02] <Atm0spher1c> solrize_, install firmware-realtek
from non-free i think
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1023[05:43:32] <solrize_> hmm might try that. right now running
fedora, would have to boot this laptop back into the live debian
install
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1024[05:43:32] <somiaj> solrize_: what intel card?
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1025[05:43:42] <solrize_> somiaj, centrino 2200N
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1026[05:43:58] <somiaj> solrize_: and it works just fine in
fedora? Is this on stretch or jessie
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1027[05:44:03] <Atm0spher1c> solrize_, you can - apt-cache search
RTl8192 - or use - apt search
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1028[05:44:40] <Atm0spher1c> solrize_, which is for that rpi wifi
usb device
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1029[05:44:46] <solrize_> somiaj it works in fedora (old version)
but crashes occasionally. there's a redhat bugzilla item
claiming the crashes are fixed. the prob i was having was on stretch
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1030[05:44:57] <solrize_> Atm0spher1c, yeah i might try the
dongle if it comes to that
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1031[05:45:03] <somiaj> solrize_: this intel wifi?
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1032[05:45:15] <solrize_> somiaj, yeah the intel wifi is Intel(R)
Centrino(R) Wireless-N 2200 BGN, REV=0x104
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1033[05:45:26] <somiaj> solrize_: you are most likley missing the
package firmware-iwlwifi
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1035[05:45:35] <solrize_> somiaj, i installed that from non-free
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1036[05:45:38] <somiaj> solrize_: debian ships non-free firmware
seperate from the kernel.
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1037[05:45:41] <solrize_> and did the stuff on the wiki page
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1038[05:45:43] <Atm0spher1c> somiaj, he was using live iso
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1039[05:45:49] <solrize_> yep, that's why i had to install
from non-free
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1041[05:46:02] <somiaj> solrize_: did you reboot/reload the
kernel module after installing that
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1042[05:46:12] <somiaj> if from a live system, you woul dhave to
modprobe -r iwlwifi then modprobe iwlwifi
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1043[05:46:13] <solrize_> reloaded with modprobe -r / modprobe
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1044[05:46:23] <somiaj> and ip a didn't see the device after
that?
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1045[05:46:30] <solrize_> don't see a way to reboot the live
iso while keeping the drivers instact
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1046[05:46:31] <somiaj> what did dmesg say, did ti complain about
missing firmwre?
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1047[05:46:46] <solrize_> dmesg just said the device name,
didn't seem to install the fw
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1048[05:47:04] <somiaj> it should have said if it needed firmware
and if itw as loaded.
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1049[05:47:23] <solrize_> didn't
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1050[05:47:44] <solrize_> i also tried installing the ipw drivers
and that didn't help
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1054[05:50:11] <hanasaki> how do you enable the onscreen popup
keyboard ?
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1055[05:50:19] <solrize_> i have to take the laptop apart to
change out the disk but will do that when i get some time
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1056[05:51:04] <Rusty1_> solrize_: what does, as root, rfkill
list wifi return?
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1057[05:51:15] <solrize_> Rusty1_, i didn't try that
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1058[05:52:01] <Atm0spher1c> hanasaki, I'm not exactly sure.
But for on screen keyboard I used florence
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1059[05:52:03] <solrize_> i could boot up the live iso again and
try
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1060[05:52:32] <Atm0spher1c> hanasaki, it seems nice, light
weight.
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1062[05:54:08] <hanasaki> Atm0spher1c: this is for a laptop with
touch screen. want it to pop up so can onscreen type
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1063[05:54:08] <Rusty1_> solrize_: if it shows hardblocked, then
a physical switch, fn-key or bios setting , if softblocked, try:
rfkill unblock all
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1064[05:54:27] <solrize_> it's not hardblocked, it works
(somewhat) under fedora
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1065[05:54:45] <solrize_> will try rfkill after rebooting, hmm
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1067[05:55:16] <hanasaki> Atm0spher1c: Florence version 0.6.3
Segmentation fault
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1069[05:55:56] <solrize_> oops
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1070[05:55:58] <hanasaki> how do you get deb9 installed on a
secure boot system so it can dual boot into windows 10 also
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1071[05:56:00] <Atm0spher1c> hanasaki, it should pop up. I
don't know if it'll work with touch screen, not using it
that way
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1073[05:56:19] <Atm0spher1c> hanasaki, it doesn't work for
you? or are you showing me a bug report?
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1075[05:56:53] <hanasaki> Atm0spher1c: doesn't work for me
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1076[05:56:55] <Atm0spher1c> hanasaki, do research, not really a
one liner :D
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1077[05:57:21] <Atm0spher1c> hanasaki, damn, works for me on
unstable.
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1078[05:57:36] <Rusty1_> solrize_: the general rule is , iwconfig
, see if the inteface shown, ifconfig, see if up or down , and i
guess lsmod to see if the driver is loaded , not sure if you
actually need a firmware package if a recent kernel
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1080[05:58:11] <solrize_> iwconfig -> not shown, ifconfig -
doesn't find it iirc, lsmod -> found iwlwifi driver but no
card seen
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1081[05:58:19] <hanasaki> so I guess the quesiton is with debian
laopt stuff isntalled... how do you get the onscreen keyboard to
popup
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1082[05:58:20] <solrize_> i'm pretty sure the wifi card
needs fw
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1083[05:58:54] <mrr0butt> solrize_ and ifconfig -a
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1086[05:59:17] <unborn> hi guys, where I can download jessie
version?
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1095[06:01:05] <An0n_L1te> Does anyone know any big chanells?
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1097[06:01:14] <hanasaki> Atm0spher1c: it's the universal
access . resolved
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1098[06:01:45] <steven0liu> same request
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1101[06:04:45] <unborn> found it
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1102[06:05:35] <mrr0butt> solrize_ you could use one of these
images
replaced-url
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1103[06:06:25] <solrize_> mrr0butt, yeah i installed the iwlwifi
driver from non-free, so i don't think the non-free cd will
help much. lemme look at the file list though, just a min
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1105[06:07:04] <solrize_> oh yowp it's a big iso
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1106[06:08:05] <solrize_> i see
firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-3_all.deb which is the thing i installed
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1109[06:09:09] <solrize_> so i already have those files, the sys
is just not finding them or they're the wrong ones
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1110[06:09:24] <somiaj> solrize_: can you get the pciid of that
card
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1111[06:10:08] <solrize_> 03:00.0 is that the pciid?
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1112[06:10:18] <somiaj> nope
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1113[06:10:26] <solrize_> hmm how do i find it?
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1114[06:10:39] <somiaj> it will be a number like 8086:0890
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1115[06:10:42] <somiaj> lspci -nn
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1116[06:10:56] <solrize_> ah thanks
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1117[06:11:07] <solrize_> 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]:
Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2200 [8086:0891] (rev c4)
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1118[06:11:37] <mrr0butt> ls /sys/class/net/
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1119[06:11:51] <somiaj> that pciid is supported by the 3.16
kernel in jessie so it should also be supported by the kernel in
stretch.
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1121[06:12:34] <solrize_> mrr0butt, /sys/class/net/wlp3s0 as a
bunch of files, what am i looking for? this is in fedora
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1122[06:13:03] <somiaj> solrize_: it should work provided you
have the firmware installed. If the kernel is not seeing it and
loading the right firmware, could the hardware be to blame?
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1123[06:13:18] <solrize_> somiaj, i dunno, the hardware more or
less works under fedora
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1126[06:13:53] <Gshock> ???
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1127[06:14:08] <Rusty1_> and the fedora kernel is?
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1128[06:14:13] <solrize_> ollllld
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1129[06:14:15] <solrize_> lemme ceck
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1130[06:14:16] <solrize_> check
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1131[06:14:24] <Gshock> any one speaks english?
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1132[06:14:29] <Gshock> need help
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1133[06:14:31] <solrize_> 3.14.27-100.fc19.x86_64
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1134[06:14:36] <solrize_> hi Gshock what is your question?
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1135[06:14:48] <Gshock> how do i install upd pel to my debian
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1136[06:14:52] <Gshock> ive tried everyting
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1137[06:14:56] <somiaj> solrize_: anyways, I don't see why
it is not working. I doubt it is a regression. Maybe someting on the
live system. But everything I see says that card should be supported
in debian stretch.
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1138[06:14:56] <Gshock> still not working
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1139[06:15:03] <Atm0spher1c> no engles in this channel
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1142[06:15:16] <somiaj> what is udp pel?
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1143[06:15:23] <Gshock> udp perl
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1144[06:15:37] <solrize_> somiaj hmm thanks. i might try jesse
but yeah if the live system is suspect then i should try an iso
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1146[06:15:52] <solrize_> wonder if i can install to an external
hard disk?
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1147[06:16:10] <solrize_> i.e. from iso on one usb stick, to file
system on another usb drive (hdd in this case)
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1149[06:16:22] <solrize_> actually could put a usb adapter around
an ssd
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1150[06:16:28] <Gshock> solrize_
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1152[06:16:31] <Gshock> can u help me out
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1153[06:16:41] <solrize_> udp perl? never heard of
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1154[06:17:01] <Gshock> botnets for short
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1155[06:17:02] <somiaj> solrize_: usb2 and even usb3 speeds are
slow compared to normal hard drives which can cause issues.
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1156[06:17:24] <somiaj> Gshock: please don't message people,
keep conversation in the channel.
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1157[06:17:27] <solrize_> somiaj, hmm like flakiness? for testing
purposes i don't mind if it's merely slow
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1158[06:17:51] <somiaj> solrize_: it is just slow, and if you say
had to swap or something, well the usb connenction can cause a
bottle neck.
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1159[06:17:55] <somiaj> just to be aware of.
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1161[06:18:09] <solrize_> oh that's no prob, machine has
12gb of ram so shouldn't have to swap
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1162[06:18:16] <solrize_> just want to boot it and see if the
wifi works
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1163[06:18:29] <solrize_> thanks this sounds like a plan
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1164[06:18:47] <solrize_> in fact hmm, i have another usb flash
stick here... of course that will suck pretty bad compared to even a
hdd
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1173[06:24:55] <mrr0butt> i had also issues connecting wlan over
network-manager in stretch, nm removed the iface immediately on auth
with ap if booted without "net.ifnames=0" boot parameter
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1179[06:27:12] <solrize_> hmm yeah i didn't get far enough
to use n-m
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1186[06:29:36] <mrr0butt> you should also run "depmod
-a" as root after installing firmware
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1193[06:33:50] <mrr0butt> and reload the kernel module
"modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi"
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1198[06:36:27] <hanasaki> is there a good discussion on how
secure each of the disk encryptions are ? xts plan ecb cbc eslv
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1199[06:36:29] <hanasaki> ?
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1200[06:38:12] <iodev> hanasaki: the question is how secure are
you
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1201[06:38:23] <hanasaki> somewhat LOL
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1202[06:38:24] <hanasaki> why
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1204[06:39:06] <iodev> hanasaki: well, it's pointless to
disk encrypt if you aren't careful (if you aren't yourself
secure)
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1206[06:39:19] <hanasaki> true
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1207[06:39:40] <hanasaki> for now... just want to know which of
the algorthims are most to least secure
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1208[06:41:50] <iodev> hanasaki: hmm, they all will be secure as
long as you do AES
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1209[06:41:57] <iodev> so the question is which one is the
fastest
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1211[06:42:28] <hanasaki> iodev: none of them offer AES in deb9
installer
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1212[06:42:46] <iodev> well, xts is a method to do aes
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1213[06:42:54] <hanasaki> ok.. they do
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1214[06:42:55] <hanasaki> found that
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1215[06:43:07] <iodev> cbc also, but don't use
chain-block-chain (cbc)
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1217[06:43:16] <hanasaki> so xtsplain vs cbcessivsha256?
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1220[06:43:29] <iodev> hanasaki: just use xtsplain
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1222[06:43:52] <iodev> really as long as aes it's fine,
these are just methods to process the blocks of data hanasaki
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1223[06:44:03] <iodev> you want the fastest, so that'll
encrypt/decrypt quickly
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1225[06:44:52] <iodev> hanasaki: if you need more detailed info,
I suggest you ask in ##security
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1227[06:45:01] <iodev> (they specialize in this kind of stuff)
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1228[06:45:46] <tomreyn> xts-plain should not be used for devices
>= 2TB
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1231[06:46:04] <tomreyn> unless it's not plain64, but i dont
think it is.
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1232[06:46:34] <tomreyn> if >= 2TB, either consider reducing
size or prefer cbc-essiv
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1233[06:47:05] <tomreyn> this really should be discussed on the
installer :-/
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1237[06:47:51] <hanasaki> what happens at 2TB and what to switch
too?
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1238[06:48:30] <iodev> hanasaki: at 2TB you switch from xtsplain
to cbcessivsha256
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1240[06:48:54] <hanasaki> iodev: thanks... why is htat?
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1241[06:49:17] <hanasaki> more secure? that much data won't
there be checksum ambiguity?
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1242[06:50:04] <iodev> hanasaki: no, it's not more secure
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1244[06:50:27] <iodev> AES is AES, CBC/XTS is the way you load
the data and split it into chunks, it's got nothing to do with
that
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1246[06:51:25] <tomreyn> Using 'plain' IV generator for
dm-crypt is problematic for large devices - plain is only 32 bits,
so for large devices (>2TB) the plain IV restarts and opens
device to watermarking attack (two sectors shares the same IV, you
can manipulate with the second if you know content of the first).
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1247[06:51:25] <iodev> (you can't encrypt the disk at once,
you need to split it into chunks of some size, let's say 10 MB
and encrypt that)
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1248[06:53:03] <hanasaki> thank you
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1250[06:53:26] <hanasaki> does resizing a partition with gparted
mess it up if it is encrypted?
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1255[06:55:50] <tomreyn> unless you resize the crypto layer, too,
yes
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1257[06:56:30] <iodev> hmm, no idea, I have only used android
disk encryption till now :D
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1258[06:56:39] <tomreyn> gparted is a partitioning utility, it
does not handle the device mapper device layer
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1259[06:56:57] <tomreyn> ...which dymcrypt-luks operates on
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1260[06:57:20] <tomreyn> *dmcrypt-luks
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1261[06:58:46] <hanasaki> iodev: doesn't that come turned on
by default since 7?
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1265[06:59:43] <iodev> hanasaki: since 7? I wouldn't know
with my jellyphone :D
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1266[07:00:01] * iodev is using android 4
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1267[07:00:02] <hanasaki> iodev: fun. did jelly have disk
encryption?
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1268[07:00:20] <iodev> hanasaki: yeah, jellybean has it, at least
my samsung does
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1269[07:00:26] <hanasaki> cool
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1270[07:01:00] <hanasaki> so far.. biggest issues I have is the
bluetooth :( dev shows up .. doesn't work
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1271[07:01:11] <iodev> pointless, my device is stagefright
vulnerable :(
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1273[07:01:20] <hanasaki> oh?
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1274[07:01:29] <iodev> hanasaki: well, tried with bluetoothctl?
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1275[07:01:45] <iodev> type in: power on, then scan on, then
agent on
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1276[07:02:01] <hanasaki> nope.. its all new to me...
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1277[07:02:28] <iodev> hanasaki: well, open a terminal
(don't worry, you don't need root)
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1279[07:02:40] <hiya> iodev, Since when did you start to love
Linux?
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1280[07:02:43] <iodev> and type in "bluetoothctl" (it
opens a command line for bluetooth)
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1281[07:02:53] <iodev> hiya: long story short, eee pc 701 :D
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1282[07:03:07] <hanasaki> how do I get it to show advertising
devices ready to pair?
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1283[07:03:14] <iodev> and planet penguin racer (former version
of extreme tux racer)
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1284[07:03:19] <hiya> iodev, What does it mean? I have no idea
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1286[07:03:33] <iodev> hanasaki: you're on debian! do you
have the non-free firmware?
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1287[07:03:49] <hanasaki> how do I check and why do I need it?
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1288[07:04:23] <iodev> hanasaki: you need it because hardware is
often proprietary (especially bluetooth and wifi)
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1289[07:04:34] <iodev> hiya: it's a netbook model
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1290[07:04:50] <hanasaki> CHG] Controller 24:0A:64:6E:FC:05
Discovering: yes
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1291[07:04:57] <iodev> hiya: that was a 4 GB hdd PC with Xandros
linux, it got me started on linux
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1293[07:05:40] <hiya> iodev, awesome then
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1294[07:05:51] <iodev> I remember first learning mount command,
for usb drives (for some reason my dad broke udev, so he taught me
to mount :D), then also sudo and su and apt-get :D
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1297[07:06:30] <ozzloy> nvz, well i got pulled away for a bit,
but i'm back now. i made a bug report:
replaced-url
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1298[07:06:33] <iodev> hiya: the PC came with an easy UI, that I
disliked, so KDE 3.5 (Advanced mode) had to be enabled
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1299[07:06:51] <ozzloy> working on a similar bug for mariadb
right now
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1300[07:06:54] <iodev> hanasaki: it won't discover anything
if it needs firmware
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1303[07:07:17] <hiya> iodev, I see. It is good enough
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1304[07:07:38] <iodev> hanasaki: what is your bluetooth adapter
model?
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1306[07:08:07] <hanasaki> iodev: assuming it does have the
firmware needed... how do you get it to list what is available?
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1307[07:08:44] <hanasaki> and.. where do I get the firmware ?
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1309[07:09:00] <iodev> hanasaki: well, let me explain, you get it
from apt-get (from debian repo)
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1310[07:09:05] <hanasaki> BCM20702A1
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1311[07:09:28] <iodev> but, it's not open source, not GPL,
not FOSS, you will need to enable non-free on debian first
(google/duckduckgo it) hanasaki
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1314[07:10:21] <hanasaki> non-free <=already have this
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1316[07:10:29] <freenoodle> Does anyone know where I can get the
release version of Firefox for stretch? mozilla.debian.net offers no
more files, and the official archives have only firefox-esr for
stretch and no backport of firefox
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1317[07:11:03] <hanasaki> firmware-b43-installer
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1318[07:11:13] <iodev> hanasaki: okay, that should be it
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1319[07:11:29] <iodev> hanasaki: also get firmware-linux-nonfree
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1326[07:13:27] <hanasaki> iodev: thanks. missed that.. what is it
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1329[07:14:19] <iodev> hanasaki: a whole pack
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1330[07:14:23] <iodev> of firmwares
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1331[07:14:33] <iodev> most distros have it by default
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1337[07:16:20] <iodev> hanasaki: you rebooted?
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1339[07:16:22] <hanasaki> oops. back
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1340[07:16:24] <hanasaki> ya
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1341[07:16:35] <iodev> hanasaki: try again to scan for devices
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1342[07:16:52] <hanasaki> Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch
brcm/BCM20702A1-13d3-3404.hcd not found
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1343[07:18:08] <iodev> hanasaki: seems like that one is not
included
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1346[07:18:36] <iodev> hanasaki: look here, follow these
instructions:
replaced-url
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1349[07:20:51] <iodev> hanasaki: hope this helps ya
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1353[07:22:11] <hanasaki> iodev: if you scroll down.. it shows
modprobe: FATAL: Module broadcom-sta-dkms not found in
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1354[07:22:36] <iodev> hanasaki: not the user question, the
answer!
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1357[07:23:11] <iodev> hanasaki: this one!
replaced-url
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1362[07:25:55] <hanasaki> should scan on dump a list of whatever
is advertising?
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1365[07:26:51] <iodev> hanasaki: you should run the 4 commands:
replaced-url
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1366[07:27:01] <iodev> (I copied them for you to see more
clearly)
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1368[07:27:23] <hanasaki> iodev: done
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1369[07:27:33] <ozzloy> nvz, here's the mariadb one, in case
you're interested:
replaced-url
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1370[07:27:35] <iodev> hanasaki: now reboot
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1371[07:27:41] <iodev> (so that it loads)
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1372[07:27:51] <hanasaki> I did a modprobe
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1373[07:27:55] <iodev> ahh, yes, sorry
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1374[07:28:07] <iodev> now do a dmesg | grep blue
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1377[07:28:21] <iodev> and try to see if it loaded properly
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1380[07:28:59] <hanasaki> how ?
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1387[07:32:20] <leibniz> yo can someone help me with installing
php7 on stretch
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1390[07:32:58] <Colloguy`> In stretch, I've maxed the xfce4
Mouse and Touchpad speed settings and it's still too sllow. How
can I increase the tracking speed?
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1392[07:33:05] <leibniz> i did a apt install php7.0 php7.0-mysql
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1393[07:33:11] <leibniz> but no go
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1396[07:34:14] <leibniz> when i make the <?php phpinfo();
?>
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1397[07:34:21] <leibniz> it doen't work
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1400[07:36:23] <Colloguy`> or rather, what is the best practice
way to increase touchpad speed? there are lots of ways, like xinput,
or synclient, but I'm having trouble figuring out what's
best practice, what's deprecated...
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1404[07:40:54] <iodev> leibniz: it's probably turned off
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1409[07:44:38] <leibniz> did i not install it properly
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1414[07:45:59] <iodev> leibniz: you installed it properly, but in
php.ini, php_info() may be turned off
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1415[07:46:07] <leibniz> ohh
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1416[07:46:12] <leibniz> ok
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1417[07:46:22] <iodev> leibniz: it may be a default hardened
setup
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1421[07:47:40] <Colloguy`> xinput set-float-prop 'SynPS/2
Synaptics Touchpad' 'libinput Accel Speed' 1.0 :)
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1422[07:47:54] <hanasaki> iodev: hmmm why my phone says this is
the PIN ... where do you enter it in bluetoothctl?
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1423[07:48:34] <iodev> hanasaki: it scanned?
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1424[07:48:45] <hanasaki> yes
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1426[07:49:04] <iodev> hanasaki: don't use bluetoothctl
then, use gui
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1429[07:49:40] <hanasaki> iodev: usign the gnome one...
doesn't find my device...
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1430[07:49:53] <iodev> but bluetoothctl does?
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1435[07:52:34] <hanasaki> yes
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1436[07:52:51] <iodev> hanasaki: ran pair <device-mac> in
bluetoothctl
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1438[07:54:19] <hanasaki> org.bluez.Error.AlreadyExists
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1440[07:54:50] <hanasaki> Device DC:EE:06:E9:9F:44 RSSI: -61
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1441[07:54:51] <leibniz> nah the php_info is not an option in
php.inf
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1442[07:55:05] <leibniz> i think i will just uninstall php7 and
try php5
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1443[07:55:12] <leibniz> because i have had success with php5
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1444[07:55:27] <hanasaki> iodev: in bluetoothctl how do you
delete a paired dev
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1445[07:55:37] <iodev> remove hanasaki
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1454[08:00:55] <hanasaki> iodev: thanks! its working!!!! I swear
you only asked me to do what I have already done and found on the
net :(:(
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1457[08:02:01] <hanasaki> now when I reboot... lol lets see if it
still works
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1466[08:08:31] <iodev> hanasaki: now gui should work too
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1468[08:08:43] <hanasaki> would someone help with this? BCM4352
802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03)Unsupported SPROM
revision: 11
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1469[08:08:43] <hanasaki>
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1470[08:08:51] <hanasaki> iodev: yes it does
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1483[08:15:27] <hanasaki> iodev: bluetooth working. thanks for
the help
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1488[08:16:57] <hanasaki> the wifi work until upgrading to
stretch
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1565[08:56:45] <pav5088> Is there any software bundled in Debian
for accessing an Android smartphone camera? Google is turning up two
or three options (ip webcam, droidcam etc...) but they don't
appear to be packaged
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1572[08:59:42] <tdn> I use Debian 8 with KDE and Chromium as my
browser. Everytime I start Chromium, it says "Chromium isnt
your default browser. Set as default?" No matter how many times
I press Set as default, it keeps saying this. I also set Chromium as
default via update-alternatives. How do I fix this?
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1576[09:02:10] <__Ozy__> I'm trying to build an i386 package
on an amd64 system. I was trying the sbuild route, but kept running
into issues with it not auto-installing packages. I then went down
the route of debuild by using "apt-get build-dep -a i386
<pkg> && debuild -a i386 -uc -us -b". This is
failing out at "dh_strip: i686-linux-gnu-objcopy" with no
such file or directory. I have installed build-essential and
g++-multilib on top of the build-dep command. Does anyone have any
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1577[09:02:11] <__Ozy__> suggestions as to what I might be
missing?
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1587[09:04:45] <hanasaki> pav5088: I recall something about MTP
.. sorry that's all I have
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1592[09:07:13] <__Ozy__> Additionally, I saw statements about
crossbuild-essential on one of the pages, but there does not appear
to be one for i386. I've also noticed an error about
"specified GNU system type does not match CC system type"
and if I run readelf on the .so that has been built, it shows
"ELF64" even though it was put in i386-linux-gnu, so I
doubt I'm building correctly with debuild in the first place.
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1610[09:11:32] <vadimkolchev> Hello. My D-Link DWA-140 USB dongle
works in installation environment (netinstall) but fails to connect
to the same network after reboot. Shows reconnection loop with link
not ready messages. In logs I have seen that it tried to load
rt2870sta driver. I contacted kernel devs on it, and they claim that
there are no differences between stock debian 9 kernel and updated
in terms of networking, so there might me different issue. Does
anyone have
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1611[09:11:32] <vadimkolchev> experience with this and can
advise?
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1620[09:14:58] <__Ozy__> vadimkolchev: first thought would be
that you're missing the firmware
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1621[09:15:11] <__Ozy__> vadimkolchev: It looks like it's
part of firmware-misc-nonfree.
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1623[09:15:30] <vadimkolchev> __Ozy__, not the case, all firmware
installed
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1644[09:25:54] <__Ozy__> vadimkolchev: Are there any modules
loaded for ^rt? It seems like you're probably wanting
rt2800usb? Not sure what would change between installation
environment and install environment, though.
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1646[09:27:43] <vadimkolchev> __Ozy__, actually it tries to load
rt2870sta
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1647[09:28:23] <__Ozy__> Yeah, that seemed weird with what I saw.
It looks like it is under the supported devices for rt2800usb, and I
don't see an rt2870sta module.
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1674[09:39:11] <BlueSpruce> Hi everyone. A quick question:
what's the difference between Debian desktop environment and
GNOME?
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1676[09:40:33] <__Ozy__> desktop environment installs an xserver
and desktop-base, Gnome installs that specific environment on top
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1683[09:43:34] <babooo> Hello guys i have multiple files that i
want to tail and pipe the output from each them to separate files i
have a bunch of log files like 1.log 2.log 3.log i want to tail the
last 60 lines of each of them and output them in different folder
with the original file names
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1684[09:43:34] <babooo> Hello guys i have multiple files that i
want to tail and pipe the output from each them to separate files i
have a bunch of log files like 1.log 2.log 3.log i want to tail the
last 60 lines of each of them and output them in different folder
with the original file names
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1685[09:43:43] <babooo> something like this tail -n 60
/home/user/*.log >> /home/user/tailed/*.log
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1686[09:43:51] <babooo> but as far as i understood this will copy
everything tailed in 1 file
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1687[09:44:22] <hanasaki> just installed debian 9 from scratch...
authenticating as root fails. yes ... I am sure of the password
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1688[09:45:01] <__Ozy__> hanasaki:
replaced-url
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1689[09:45:03] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1690[09:45:41] <babilen> As always: Use the standard installation
images
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1692[09:45:48] <klys> baboo, for f in *.log; do tail -n 60
"$f" >> tailed/"$f"; done
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1694[09:45:51] <__Ozy__> babooo: Might be easier with a for loop?
for FILE in /home/user/*.log
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1695[09:46:01] <hanasaki> __Ozy__: thank you... that is only a
normal severity/
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1696[09:46:19] <babilen> Yeah, it doesn't break anything
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1700[09:46:29] <babilen> (anything else that is)
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1701[09:46:33] <__Ozy__> hanasaki: My understanding is it's
a live image bug only, and is pretty easy to work around
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1702[09:46:34] <hanasaki> babilen: other than the install
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1704[09:46:47] <hanasaki> __Ozy__: what's the work around?
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1706[09:47:07] <babilen> hanasaki: It's just one part of the
install .. annoying and FIXME!!!!, but it's not that it causes
other parts of the system to misbehave or break
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1707[09:47:22] <babilen> dpkg: ifrp
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1708[09:47:22] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit
the kernel setting in the grub command line (add
'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your
root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4)
'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6)
'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1)
'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift
while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux
init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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1709[09:47:27] <hanasaki> babilen: so how do I get to root after
the install?
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1711[09:48:12] <babilen> You could try setting it with the method
above .. I wouldn't recommend to use the live CD images for
installing Debian though and you could also consider reinstalling
using the proper ones.
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1714[09:51:07] <babooo> klys, thanks will try now
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1721[09:53:30] <babooo> klys, it worked like a charm thank you
very much :)
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1722[09:53:48] <klys> yw.
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1725[09:54:49] <hanasaki> what is ifrp?
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1729[09:55:35] <babilen> hanasaki: "i forgot root
password"
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1733[09:57:54] <Marethyu> So, I have a 10GB /root partition. I
had to install big libs (dlib, boost) and now it is 97% full. Is
there a way to expand the size without nuking my hard drive ?
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1744[10:03:29] <jolt> Marethyu: You can use a rescue cd, boot it
and resize the partitions with gparted, parted or such
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1750[10:05:51] <hanasaki> did someone in here poke my firewall
and sshd?
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1753[10:07:04] <vlt> Assume yes :-D
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1758[10:10:13] <BlueSpruce> When I installed "Debian desktop
environment" I got GNOME. Does this mean they are the same? Why
are they separated in the installer then?
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1761[10:12:40] <__Ozy__> You can see what tasks are installed
with tasksel --list-tasks. Maybe if you didn't select one it
defaults to one in the installer? Not sure.
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1780[10:26:37] <vlt> BlueSpruce: I'd say "Debian
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default, while "Gnome desktop" explicitely installs that.
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1781[10:28:03] <BlueSpruce> I see. Thank you, vlt.
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1806[10:42:59] <luichi> hello
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1807[10:43:12] <luichi> hello
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1810[10:43:39] <luichi> im using debian 9 stretch, can i use slim
desktop manager with compiz or is only compatible with gnome and
mate?
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1814[10:44:41] <introom> hi
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1816[10:45:27] <introom> Is there a version of
`linux-manual' packages that gets updated if I update th
kernel?
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1818[10:45:50] <introom> in debian, there is two packages
hardcoded with the kernel version, `linux-manual-4.9' and
`linux-manual-4.11'
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1826[10:49:33] <babilen> introom: Don't think so
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1837[10:53:22] <ntz> hello
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1840[10:53:55] <ntz> can I do something like [pseudocode]: sed
'1,/^foo$/-1d' /file ??
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1843[10:54:15] <ntz> eg when stripping something from line
I'd like to leave there a boundary line
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1844[10:54:56] <ntz> good example: sed '1,/^-----BEGIN PGP
MESSAGE-----/d' ~/tmp/message.src.txt
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1847[10:55:16] <ntz> ^^ this will strip teh line as well and
I'd like to leave it there untouched]
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1849[10:55:45] <ntz> **stripping from file, not from line
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1853[10:56:46] <Mahe> luichi, slim is a display manager (more or
less just the login screen), gnome and mate are desktop environments
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1855[10:57:12] <pav5088> ntz, you might be better asking in #bash
(although you should specify if you're using eg. dash....
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1857[10:57:50] <Mahe> luichi, unless you are talking about using
compiz standalone without a desktop environment
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1858[10:58:03] <hanasaki> how do you make a luks crypt swap
partiion and mount it?
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1861[11:00:09] <ntz> pav5088: perl -ne '$foo = 1 if
m@^-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----@; print if $foo; undef $foo if
m@^-----END PGP MESSAGE-----@;' ~/tmp/original_msg.txt
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1863[11:00:38] <ntz> ^^ works like this but I still wanted to
know if I can make it using sed by selecting ``previous
line'' by match
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1872[11:06:23] <TuxoHolic> Hello, can somebody explain why
samba-common is already creating a generic /etc/samba/smb.conf when
I'm not installing the samba server package? Isn't
samba-common supposed to be just a set of shared libraries for samba
client and samba server?
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1875[11:07:08] <luichi> Mahe: i tried using slim desktop manager
and compiz and doesnt work
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1887[11:11:58] <Mahe> luichi, are you deliberately trying to use
compiz standalone without a desktop environment?
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1890[11:13:33] <luichi> Mahe: im trying with slim desktop manager
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1892[11:13:54] <Mahe> luichi, have you used compiz standalone
before?
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1895[11:16:34] <Mahe> again slim is only a _display_ manager,
_not_ a full desktop environment
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1897[11:17:24] <luichi> Mahe: in debian 6 there was compiz-gtk
package there are only compiz, compiz-mate and compiz-gnome packages
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1902[11:19:55] <dusty_ghost> hi
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1903[11:19:57] <Mahe> luichi, the -mate and -gnome packages are
integration packages if you are planning to use compiz with either
gnome or mate; if you use any other desktop environment simply
choose compiz
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1904[11:20:39] <dusty_ghost> can i make an executable check its
own hashsum when compiling/linking it?
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1907[11:22:11] <Mahe> compiz is just a window manager (WM),
unless you want to run it standalone (which I don't recommend
for starters) you will need a desktop environment (DE) as a base.
The display manager (DM) which displays the login screen - slim in
your case - is completely separate!
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1919[11:25:01] <luichi> ??
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1920[11:25:25] <luichi> Mahe, ?
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1921[11:25:31] <Mahe> luichi, yes?
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1924[11:25:54] <luichi> can i use compiz with slim desktop
manager?
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1925[11:25:58] <luichi> it doesnt work for me
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1928[11:27:57] <Mahe> luichi, there is no such thing as a
"desktop manager". There are "display manager"
and "desktop environment". "SLiM" is a
"display manager" - a login screen basically. What you
need for compiz is a "desktop environment"!
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1930[11:28:25] <luichi> Mahe, aa ok sorry
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1933[11:28:56] <luichi> Mahe, compiz cant be used with a display
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1936[11:29:50] <Mahe> luichi, the display manager is just the
login screen. compiz is a "window manager" - it is used
together with a "desktop environment" _after_ the login
screen.
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1938[11:30:05] <luichi> Mahe, yes i know
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1939[11:30:47] <luichi> desktop enviroment = display manager +
window manager + apps
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1941[11:30:53] <Mahe> luichi, correct
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1942[11:31:09] <luichi> so slim display manager with compiz
window manager should work no?
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1943[11:31:39] <Mahe> luichi, you can't use a window manager
on a login screen (display manager) as far as I know
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1944[11:31:45] <Mahe> for what purpose anyway?
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1945[11:31:54] <Mahe> there are no windows on the login screen
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1946[11:32:21] <luichi> i used fluxbox window manager with slim
display manager and it worked
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1947[11:32:34] <luichi> when i login to slim i enter to fluxbox
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1948[11:32:46] <luichi> i want the same but instead of fluxbox i
want to try compiz
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1950[11:33:54] <smhar> greetings
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1952[11:34:04] <Mahe> luichi, ah now I understand, then you want
compiz standalone
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1955[11:34:33] <luichi> Mahe, i have to compile it?
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1956[11:34:40] <Mahe> luichi, no
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1958[11:35:22] <luichi> Mahe, i found this
replaced-url
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1961[11:35:51] <Mahe> luichi, yes that would be the correct way
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1962[11:36:29] <smhar> I upgraded my debian to stretch and now I
installed mysql and apache as per this guide:
replaced-url
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1963[11:37:08] <Mahe> luichi, maybe the Ubuntu instructions are
also helpful:
replaced-url
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1964[11:37:59] <luichi> Mahe, yes ubuntu instructions are more
clear :)
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1965[11:38:32] <Mahe> luichi, be aware that they might be
slightly outdated in terms of command paths or arguments - you might
have to play around a little
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1966[11:39:12] <luichi> Mahe, ok if i will try it and if it works
i will add a link or instructions to debian wiki because i didnt
find it there
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1968[11:39:37] <Mahe> luichi, that would be great :)
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1970[11:40:13] <luichi> Mahe, i always try to add what i dont
find at the debian wiki
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1973[11:42:35] <Mahe> luichi, that's commendable :)
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2036[12:14:59] <dusty_ghost> hello
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2048[12:21:15] <OtakuSenpai> hey Mahe
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2066[12:30:25] <velix> I've just switched from DHCP to
static. How can I apply changes? restart networking doesn't
work.
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2068[12:31:10] <petn-randall> velix: Where did you change it?
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2069[12:31:19] <velix> petn-randall: etc networking
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2070[12:31:27] <velix> pardon: nano /etc/network/interfaces
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2071[12:31:47] <petn-randall> velix: then I'd use
ifup/ifdown to take the interface down and put it back up.
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2073[12:32:19] <velix> petn-randall: It's a server via SSH.
Can I run ifup/down connected by && or ; ?
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2074[12:32:32] <petn-randall> velix: Note that restarting the
networking service to re-configure the network interfaces
hasn't worked anymore since lenny, IIRC.
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2076[12:32:46] <petn-randall> velix: You can, in that case
I'd run it in screen/tmux, though.
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2077[12:32:47] <velix> petn-randall: I thought, there's a
script behind.
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2078[12:33:01] <petn-randall> velix: And make 100% sure the
config is right, otherwise the if won't come up again.
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2079[12:33:04] <velix> petn-randall: but it will kill my ssh
connection, won'tit? :)
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2081[12:33:28] <velix> petn-randall: ifdown eno2; ifup eno2
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2083[12:33:47] <petn-randall> velix: I'd connect them with
&&
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2085[12:34:02] <velix> petn-randall: ok
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2086[12:34:07] <petn-randall> velix: Your SSH connection will
likely be lost, yes.
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2087[12:34:11] <velix> ok
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2088[12:34:33] <velix> petn-randall: ifdown: interface eno2 not
configured
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2089[12:34:34] <petn-randall> (that's why you should use
screen or tmux so this doesn't matter)
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2092[12:34:52] <petn-randall> velix: Is your interface named eno2
in /etc/network/interfaces?
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2093[12:35:02] <velix> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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2096[12:35:36] <petn-randall> velix: What is 'autho
eno2'?
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2097[12:35:48] <velix> petn-randall: the debian tutorial about
static IP told me os
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2098[12:35:49] <velix> so
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2100[12:36:03] <petn-randall> likely a typo
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2102[12:36:16] <velix> petn-randall: ooh... the "o"
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2103[12:36:22] <petn-randall> !tutorial
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2104[12:36:22] <dpkg> A very common problem is that some people
prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to
setup their system without reading the documentation or
understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they
have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they
sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial.
This is not The Proper Way.
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2105[12:36:42] <velix> petn-randall: typo ... :)
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2106[12:37:03] <petn-randall> velix: What is it supposed to read?
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2113[12:37:44] <velix> petn-randall: auto eno2
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2115[12:38:28] <petn-randall> velix: Yeah, that should be right.
Was it configured there before, too?
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2116[12:38:36] <petn-randall> eno2 that is.
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2117[12:38:45] <velix> petn-randall: thcp
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2121[12:39:00] <velix> petn-randall: argh sorry, I am in a hurry.
Thanks for your help. It works now
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2123[12:39:07] <Mahe> OtakuSenpai, hello OtakuSenpai
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2124[12:39:32] <petn-randall> velix: Just make sure it works
after a reboot.
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2156[12:52:50] <aexl> hi. anybody got mlb.tv working? i tried
firefox 52.2.0 and google-chrome-stable 59.0.3071.115-1 both with
flashplayer 26.0.0.131. i only get audio.
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2162[12:54:16] <petn-randall> aexl: It's probably best to
take it up with their support. Since it's a pay-for service,
nobody here will be able to debug it with you.
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2168[12:55:05] <petn-randall> aexl: Most modern websites also use
HTML5 for media, so it shouldn't require Adobe Flash.
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2176[12:56:51] <aexl> petn-randall: linux is not supported by
them. they require flash. i just thought i could get lucky here ...
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2177[12:57:44] <petn-randall> aexl: But they support browsers,
don't they? The underlying OS should be irrelevant.
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2182[12:59:51] <dusty_ghost> you could also try if it works with
pepperflash
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2184[13:00:54] <dusty_ghost> (personally i would stay away from
sites that require flash though.)
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2185[13:01:13] <petn-randall> (same here)
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2186[13:01:29] <aexl> dusty_ghost: actually it does use
libpepflashplayer.so for flash
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2187[13:01:45] <skgd> I installed debian 9 stretch on lenevo pc
arch 64bit.....My PC was all well since last few weeks. Today it is
not booting showing below error. Please guide me which logs can
resolve issue. It is server hence need immediate solution.
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2189[13:02:07] <skgd> failed to load rtl8812ae.bin
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2194[13:04:09] <skgd> My pC is not booting since it is failing to
load firmware for bluetooth and wifi devices....altough wifi worked
fine since past 2 weeks
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2195[13:04:32] <dusty_ghost> sorry, i am not using flash myself -
just heard pepperflash is considered the best solution for some
people.
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2196[13:04:37] <skgd> i installed debian stretch on 21st june
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2199[13:05:07] <skgd> I am ready to share logs please suggest
what to share
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2206[13:08:00] <aexl> mlbviewer with rtmpdump works. thx anyway
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2209[13:09:02] <aexl> skgd: i guess you need firmware-realtek
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2210[13:09:33] <aexl> it contains rtl_bt/rtl8812ae_fw.bin
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2211[13:10:04] <skgd> aexl: Please tell in which path in root
filesystem ican find this driver file
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2212[13:10:13] <aexl> not sure why you would need bluetooth to
boot though. maybe you still have this somewhere in your old
configs?
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2215[13:11:50] <aexl> the whole path is /lib/firmware/rtl_bt/
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2216[13:11:56] <skgd> aexl: I am using lenevo all in one PC
before i used wheezy upgraded to stretch a few week back
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2218[13:12:27] <aexl> BUT there's no rtl8812ae.bin just a
file ending in _fw.bin
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2220[13:12:37] <skgd> i worked with my pc no problems.....just
today stopped booting , i can see the error message on the screen
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2221[13:12:47] <aexl> i guess you need to make a fresh install
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2225[13:14:20] <skgd> aexl: please suggest which log will help to
understand issue
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2227[13:14:35] <aexl> well look if there's a file in
/lib/firmware/rtl_bt/. maybe you can make a symlink to the new file.
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2229[13:15:53] <skgd> aexl: one more problem since boot process
is not complete network is down on my pc, curretnly chatting from
different pc
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2230[13:16:33] <skgd> aexl: I will join back in a short while
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2231[13:17:02] <skgd> exit
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2241[13:19:42] <vadimkolchev> what is the difference between
rt2800usb and rt2870sta driver? my usb dongle tries to load
rt2870sta, probably this is the reason why it does not work for me.
I guess it should load rt2800usb instead
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2245[13:23:49] <iodev> vadimkolchev: 2 very old drivers, yeah
you're totally right
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2247[13:23:56] <iodev> blacklist rt2870sta
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2248[13:24:42] <cti4728> iodev: isn't that a vendor driver
(not in kernel tree) anyway?
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2250[13:24:59] <vadimkolchev> iodev, okay thank you, will try it
when I get to that pc
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2251[13:25:07] <iodev> cti4728: rt2870sta is in kernel tree
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2252[13:25:19] <iodev> I remember, I had it on a toshiba
sattellite 2430
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2253[13:25:21] <cti4728> iodev: oh, but in staging i guess?
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2256[13:27:00] <iodev> cti4728: hmm, I remember having quite the
opposite issue with rt2800usb loading instead of rt2870sta
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2257[13:27:12] <cti4728> iodev: usually the naming for in-tree
ralink drivers is rtNpci or rtNusb (where N is 2500, 2570, 73, ...)
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2259[13:27:35] <iodev>
replaced-url
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2260[13:27:56] <cti4728> staging...
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2261[13:28:01] <iodev> yeah
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2262[13:28:05] <vadimkolchev> iodev, probably it is opposite, I
have to check, as I do not have access to this pc currently, but
will be able to do it in the evening
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2263[13:28:10] <cti4728> so it's the vendor driver actually
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2264[13:28:16] <cti4728> horrible code quality
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2265[13:28:22] <vadimkolchev> actually, this dongle works great
during install, but fails after I reboot
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2266[13:28:35] <vadimkolchev> was not an issue in Jessie, though
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2268[13:28:54] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: maybe the firmware is
simply missing?
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2269[13:28:54] <vadimkolchev> after that I made fresh install
(needed to do it anyway)
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2270[13:28:59] <iodev> vadimkolchev: I had my issues with ubuntu,
not debian and that old 2001 laptop
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2271[13:29:00] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, no, it isn't
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2274[13:29:27] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, actually I can connect
manually with wpa_supplicant, but after 30 seconds link is lost
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2275[13:29:35] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, and I can scan for
networks
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2277[13:29:50] <vadimkolchev> constantly getting link not ready
loop
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2280[13:30:06] <cti4728> i only have experience with older ralink
chips like rt73usb. i don't know if they fucked up with the
rt28xx series
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2282[13:30:10] <vadimkolchev> tried with wicd, but the same
results, disconnects in 10-30 seconds
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2283[13:30:35] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, actually I don't have
problems with this dongle with every other distro I tried, and I
tried many.
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2286[13:31:02] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, Arch, Fedora, RHEL,
Ubuntu, openSUSE etc. - everything just works there
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2294[13:32:23] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: did you also try
wpa_supplicant alone? (not controlled by network manager or wicd)
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2299[13:34:14] <nvz> vadimkolchev: there are two parts a kernel
driver and firmware that is loaded onto the device, if you know it
works well in other distros you should observe what versions of
these things they use and perhaps consider building a new kernel or
updating the firmware, then file a bug against whatever causes the
issue
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2300[13:34:34] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: which driver do you use
when running wpa_supplicant manually? (-Dwext or -Dnl80211)
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2305[13:35:36] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, yes, as I have written
above , i used ip link and wpa_supplicant with dhclient. I can
connect, but for 10 -30
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2310[13:36:17] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, i just use this -
wpa_supplicant -i myiface -c<(wpa_passphrase SSID PASS) -B
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2311[13:36:33] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: sorry, i missed the manual
wpa_supplicant part.
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2314[13:36:48] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: so you don't specify
the -D... option
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2318[13:37:16] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: i don't know which is
the default, but you could try -Dnl80211 then -Dwext
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2319[13:37:18] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, yes, I never do, actually
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2320[13:37:30] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, okay, thanks, will give it
a shot
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2325[13:37:55] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: and for testing it is
better not to use -B
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2326[13:38:14] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, yes, I know, I use it when
I see that everything is okay
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2327[13:38:14] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: this way you cannot forget
that wpa_supplicant is still running
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2328[13:39:18] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: does it also disconnect
when you don't send any traffic (not even dhcp request) over
the link?
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2334[13:41:47] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, actually, not sure about
that as I send dhcp request right after I use wpa_supplicant
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2335[13:42:18] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: well you don't have
to :)
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2336[13:44:32] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: if the access point has
ipv6, you can also test connectivity without the need of a dhcp
lease. just "ping6 ff02::1%wlan0" all DUP icmp replies are
from other ipv6 hosts on the link.
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2338[13:45:04] <vadimkolchev> cti4728, no, it uses ipv4
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2341[13:46:25] <cti4728> vadimkolchev: it doesn't even need
a configured ipv6 address. the link local address (fe80:...) will be
sufficient.
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2347[13:51:01] <skgd> aexl: I am back
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2361[13:57:23] <menace> hi, i do not see make-kpkg in the
repository via "apt-file search". it is referenced in
replaced-url
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2374[14:00:41] <skgd> aexl: i cheked ion folder
/lib/modules/<linux kernel number>/kernel/net/wireless
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2377[14:01:21] <skgd> there is no such file rtl8821aefw.bin
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2380[14:03:15] <teraflops> fw is not stored there
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2382[14:03:40] <skgd> debian9 stopped bootting due to folllowing
error
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2383[14:04:18] <skgd> failed to load for
rtl_bt/rtl8812a_config.bin
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2386[14:05:55] <skgd> similarly due to rtl_bt/rtl8812a_fw.bin
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2393[14:08:35] <teraflops> skgd: what's that? wifi dongle?
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2426[14:36:53] <Uller> Hi, how do I check DDR RAM frequency in
Debian?
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2430[14:38:16] <apollo13> dmidecode --type 17
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2431[14:38:27] <apollo13> or lshw
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2447[14:49:52] <Uller> apollo13: will it also display my ram chip
manufacturer?
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2467[15:00:13] <blob0> Hello.
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2469[15:00:42] <nvz> .olleH
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2472[15:01:12] <blob0> When doing updates, more often than not,
for some odd reason I get a 404, or connection dropped, and than it
picks up an HTTP connection, as opposed to the original HTTPS
connection. I want to force use of HTTPS, or maybe better ask.
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2474[15:01:58] <BluesKaj> blob0, try some different mirrors
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2475[15:02:20] <blob0> I am in a situation where someone may me
altering my packets as they come, is this possible, and if so, they
are injecting modified versions of the packages i install. Curiously
have never seen HTTPS downgrade to HTTP like this... Happens with
various mirrors, auto rotations, etc.
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2476[15:02:56] <blob0> Possible to block port 80, or route all
web traffic to 443? Is this a thing? Block all, and obviously
destroy access, to any non HTTPS site?
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2477[15:03:25] <nvz> packages are digitally signed and verified
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2479[15:03:58] <blob0> nvz, and sneaking a key in is not
possible?
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2481[15:04:13] <blob0> Compromising the key system, of not by my
own hand?
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2482[15:04:30] <blob0> Accepting a key off hand when i was tired?
now, is this overboard, all of this?
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2483[15:04:47] <nvz> i heard the aliens do posses such technology
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2485[15:05:16] <apollo13> Uller: just try?
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2487[15:05:26] <blob0> What, social engineering skills? Crazy.
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2488[15:05:44] <blob0> Packet forming? In my country? Not that
hard to believe.
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2495[15:07:24] <petn-randall> blob0: Do manipulate the apt
keyring you need local root access. If an attacker already has that,
they don't need to "inject" modified packages into
your download.
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2497[15:08:02] <maxcell_> hi i need help with the new debian
testing. I can't install linux-headers, it only have 4.11
linux-headers and the kernel is 4.9
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2498[15:08:14] <RachaelLee> hi. when i type apt-get update it
just loops and loops, is there something wrong with apt at the
moment?
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2499[15:08:22] <petn-randall> !bat
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2500[15:08:23] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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2501[15:08:25] <petn-randall> RachaelLee: ^^^
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2502[15:08:34] <blob0> petn-randall, and imagine, there was say a
browser exploit lodged against me, and they compromised my key, than
it is already there, compromised. Ehhh. *shrugs*
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2503[15:08:41] <blob0> Thank you.
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2505[15:08:56] <petn-randall> blob0: Are you browsing as root?
That might be your problem right there.
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2506[15:08:59] <RachaelLee> ok,
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2507[15:09:08] <abrotman> judd: kernels
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2508[15:09:09] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.11.0-1-686
(4.11.6-1); buster: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686
(4.9.30-2+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686
(4.9.30-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u2);
wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1);
wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.89-2)
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2511[15:09:17] <blob0> petn-randall, Yeah, specifically, anything
related to doas, or sudo, I oppose. Direct root login :)
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2512[15:09:30] <abrotman> maxcell_: buster has 4.11, sounds like
your system is a bit out of date
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2513[15:09:33] <petn-randall> blob0: Are you running Kali or
Parrot?
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2514[15:09:36] <blob0> petn-randall, even as non root, it is
possible, say an exploit as well in the underlying system? Systemd?
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2515[15:09:49] <maxcell_> abrotman, its a new install, i just got
here
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2516[15:09:57] <abrotman> maxcell_: doesn't change my answer
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2517[15:09:59] <maxcell_> abrotman, already did apt update,
upgrade, dist-upgrade
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2518[15:10:03] <blob0> petn-randall, I am running Vanilla, stable
debian, fedora stable, and one box with BSD.
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2519[15:10:17] <abrotman> maxcell_: paste your sources.list in
paste.debian.net
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2520[15:10:24] <maxcell_> ok
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2523[15:10:35] <petn-randall> blob0: Ok, because you're not
making much sense.
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2524[15:10:42] <blob0> petn-randall, just overtly paranoid, and,
you know, 22 is prime age to fall into psychosis, sorry.
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2525[15:10:56] <petn-randall> o.O
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2526[15:11:02] <blob0> petn-randall, That is not good, I am
normally coherent...
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2527[15:11:13] <maxcell_> abrotman,
replaced-url
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2528[15:11:20] <abrotman> blob0: then perhaps you should step
away from the computer
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2529[15:11:51] <petn-randall> blob0: The question you should ask
is, "does it elevate privileges?". And in this case the
answer is "no". If you have local root, you don't
need to manipulate web traffic to root the machine.
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2531[15:12:13] <abrotman> maxcell_: and "apt-get
update;apt-get dist-upgrade' doesn't want to upgrade your
kernel ?
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2532[15:12:15] <RachaelLee> ok, here is my apt stuff
replaced-url
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2533[15:12:25] <blob0> abrotman,
replaced-url
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2534[15:12:28] <maxcell_> abrotman, it doesn't =(
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2536[15:12:33] <abrotman> maxcell_: or it already did and you
haven't rebooted yet?
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2537[15:12:35] <maxcell_> abrotman, should i restart the computer
and try again?
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2538[15:12:38] <abrotman> blob0: I don't give a crap, stop
rambling
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2540[15:12:42] <RachaelLee> and i have tried
cdn.debian.net/debian/ too, and it does the same thing
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2541[15:12:49] <blob0> I am literally lost in psychosis, be back,
in like, 6 months
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2542[15:12:49] <abrotman> maxcell_: dpkg -l | grep linux-image ..
do you see a 4.11 ?
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2545[15:13:09] <maxcell_> abrotman, let me see
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2546[15:14:00] <maxcell_> abrotman, just 4.9 but in apt-cache
search linux-image i can see 4.11 should i manually install it?
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2547[15:14:14] <abrotman> maxcell_: apt-get install
linux-image-amd64
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2549[15:14:49] <maxcell_> abrotman, linux-image-amd64 is already
the newest version (4.9+80).
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2550[15:14:51] <maxcell_> weird
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2552[15:15:17] <Uller> apollo13: dmidecode works but I can't
do --type17
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2554[15:15:39] <abrotman> I guess the metapackage isn't
updated yet .. Install the 4.11, reboot, install the headers
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2555[15:15:48] <maxcell_> ok
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2556[15:16:03] <maxcell_> a little question before i reboot
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2558[15:16:43] <maxcell_> in the grub, when i put nomodeset in
the edit what key i should press to boot up?
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2559[15:16:56] <maxcell_> it says F1 but didn't work
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2560[15:17:00] <abrotman> you can add that in so you don't
have to edit it
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2561[15:17:04] <abrotman> but probably 'b' to boot
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2562[15:17:19] <maxcell_> but if i press b, it will type the
letter
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2563[15:17:34] <maxcell_> if i press ESC it will back without
saving the edit
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2564[15:17:52] <maxcell_> where i add that?
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2565[15:17:58] <maxcell_> before reboot the new kernel
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2566[15:17:59] <abrotman> /etc/default/grub IIRC
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2567[15:18:08] <maxcell_> ok
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2573[15:19:36] <apollo13> Uller: define "can't do"
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2574[15:19:54] <apollo13> Uller: also note that I had a blank
between type and 17
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2578[15:20:29] <dury> hi there channel (y)
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2583[15:22:01] <maxcell_> abrotman, you mean /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
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2585[15:22:48] <dury> so Stretch, would it be more reliable than
Jessie? even for open-hardware like raspberry pi, beaglebone boards
and so on?
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2587[15:23:39] <maxcell_> abrotman, its a read-only file should i
change permissions to edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg in order to put
nomodeset on the kernel boot options?
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2588[15:24:28] <abrotman> maxcell_: I believe that file is
generated from the one in /etc/default/grub Does that file exist?
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2589[15:25:03] <maxcell_> abrotman, yes it exist, i will copy the
content to you
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2590[15:25:10] <abrotman> maxcell_: you don't have to
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2591[15:25:41] <abrotman> maxcell_: but you change the options,
run update-grub (or install the new kernel which will do that
automagically) and then you should see the change reflected in the
grub.cfg
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2592[15:26:14] <rephlexie> dury, my BeagleB shipped with Jessie
Images3 months ago
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2593[15:26:36] <rephlexie> *images
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2595[15:27:34] <maxcell_> abrotman, i already install the 4.11
and headers as you said, the content of the /boot/grub.cfg still
doesn't have the nomodeset option and i dont understand where
to put that on the /etc/default/grub because i didn't
understand the content of the file at all, i don't see where i
can put the option on this file
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2596[15:28:13] <abrotman> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
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2597[15:28:16] <abrotman> change that line
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2598[15:28:19] <maxcell_> abrotman, oh yeah
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2599[15:28:34] <maxcell_> abrotman, lol
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2601[15:29:53] <maxcell_> abrotman, going for reboot, sorry
bother you bro
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2602[15:30:02] <maxcell_> brb
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2605[15:31:20] <abrotman> he hopes anyway ..
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2615[15:35:05] <maxcell_> abrotman, hi it's all good now but
when i run apt-get update it give me an apt-key error this time =(
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2616[15:35:20] <maxcell_> abrotman, W:
replaced-url
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2622[15:36:13] <abrotman> maxcell_: seems like you need to change
permissions or change ownership of the file
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2624[15:36:28] <maxcell_> oh man
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2630[15:37:03] <maxcell_> im completly lost right now, the system
is new i just install it
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2637[15:38:59] <maxcell_> abrotman, root@debian:/home/maxcell# ls
-l /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
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2638[15:38:59] <maxcell_> -rw------- 1 root root 32 jul 4 10:01
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg
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2639[15:39:08] <maxcell_> its rw
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2643[15:40:41] <Uller> apollo13: thanks, I didn't use space
between "type" and "17"
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2644[15:40:50] <th0r> it should be 644 I think...it is on my
system
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2647[15:41:13] <abrotman> maxcell_: but no other user can read it
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2648[15:41:31] <maxcell_> abrotman, hmm
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2653[15:42:08] <maxcell_> abrotman, and it needs the user _apt to
read it?
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2654[15:42:22] <abrotman> maxcell_: chmod 644
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg I suppose or chown _apt /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
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2656[15:42:47] <th0r> abrotman, chmod....-rw-r--r-- 1 root root
12456 Jul 1 21:14 /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
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2658[15:43:22] <maxcell_> abrotman, i have "_apt" in
/etc/passwd, this file contains the groups right?
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2659[15:44:11] <abrotman> maxcell_: try the chmod, change it to
644
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2660[15:44:26] <maxcell_> abrotman, oh right
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2665[15:46:30] <maxcell_> abrotman, now it gives me another
errors, it says that the following signatures couldn't have
been signed because there is no pub keys available
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2671[15:46:57] <maxcell_> abrotman,
replaced-url
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2674[15:47:31] <abrotman> i'd probably try to install the
debian-keyring package
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2677[15:48:24] <maxcell_> abrotman, segmentation fault :~
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2678[15:48:32] <abrotman> eh ..
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2679[15:48:35] <maxcell_> ^^
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2680[15:48:42] <maxcell_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a
segmentation fault.
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2682[15:49:17] <maxcell_> worked now
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2683[15:49:21] <maxcell_> lol..
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2684[15:49:58] <maxcell_> abrotman, debian-keyring is installed
but... what should i do with that
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2685[15:50:07] <abrotman> does apt-get update work now?
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2688[15:50:25] <maxcell_> abrotman, no, same error
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2691[15:50:48] <maxcell_> but there is a keytool program
installed now
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2692[15:50:56] <maxcell_> a program kalled "keytool"
yeah
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2695[15:51:13] <abrotman> if you 'apt-key list', how
many are there?
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2696[15:51:48] <maxcell_> abrotman, only keys for jessie, stretch
and wheezy
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2702[15:53:21] <abrotman> is there a debian-archive-keyring
package you haven't installed?
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2704[15:53:49] <maxcell_> its installed abrotman
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2707[15:53:57] <maxcell_> abrotman,
replaced-url
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2708[15:53:58] <maxcell_> ops
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2709[15:54:02] <maxcell_> sorry
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2710[15:54:05] <maxcell_> abrotman, root@debian:/home/maxcell#
dpkg -l |grep debian-archive
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2711[15:54:06] <maxcell_> ii debian-archive-keyring 2017.5 all
GnuPG archive keys of the Debian archive
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2713[15:54:56] <abrotman> does it ask you to continue anyway?
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2715[15:55:13] <maxcell_> abrotman, what you mean
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2719[15:56:26] <abrotman> they're just warnings
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2729[16:01:44] <maxcell_> abrotman, how do i get a key that works
with buster
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2730[16:02:28] <maxcell_> abrotman, i dont really understand the
concept of key but this warning is very big on the screen and i
really want to get rid of it :~ how did you do that
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2731[16:02:41] <abrotman> dpkg: apt-key 46925553
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2732[16:02:42] <dpkg> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys
46925553 ; gpg --export 46925553 | sudo apt-key add -
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2736[16:03:34] <maxcell_> gpg: failed to start the dirmngr
'/usr/bin/dirmngr': Arquivo ou diretório não
encontrado
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2743[16:03:49] <maxcell_> gpg: keyserver receive failed: No
dirmngr
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2744[16:03:49] <maxcell_> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
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2745[16:03:59] <abrotman> did you run it as root?
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2746[16:04:03] <maxcell_> yes
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2747[16:04:11] <abrotman> remove the sudo
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2748[16:04:15] <abrotman> just the sudo
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2751[16:04:47] <maxcell_> abrotman, i just install dirmngr and
run again, it works
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2752[16:04:55] <maxcell_> all good?
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2753[16:05:03] <maxcell_> i run with root
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2754[16:05:10] <maxcell_> did i do something wrong?
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2762[16:05:48] <abrotman> maxcell_: if it worked, that's
fine .. did some of the errors in apt-get update go away ?
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2763[16:06:00] <maxcell_> abrotman, still same errors in apt-get
update
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2769[16:06:18] <maxcell_> abrotman, i dont get it
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2774[16:06:23] <galex-713_> Hi
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2782[16:07:33] <maxcell_> abrotman, W: Falhou ao buscar
replaced-url
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2784[16:07:38] <galex-713_> I have a log that’s being
filled with an error from an unrecognized wifi card: who can I fix
that?
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2786[16:07:59] <galex-713_> I know if the log fills the disk
Debian will stop working, so how could I stop that log being filled?
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2788[16:08:15] <abrotman> dpkg: apt-key 2B90D010
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2789[16:08:16] <dpkg> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys
2B90D010 ; gpg --export 2B90D010 | sudo apt-key add -
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2790[16:08:29] <abrotman> maxcell_: see above
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2792[16:08:53] <maxcell_> abrotman, as root right?
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2793[16:08:57] <abrotman> yes
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2797[16:09:23] <maxcell_> abrotman, hmm now i see look at the
"error"
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2798[16:09:36] <abrotman> what error?
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2800[16:10:13] <maxcell_> abrotman,
replaced-url
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2801[16:10:36] <abrotman> oh, run apt-get update, does it work?
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2802[16:10:41] <maxcell_> abrotman, no valid opengpg data found
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2803[16:10:43] <maxcell_> let me see
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2805[16:11:17] <maxcell_> abrotman,
replaced-url
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2808[16:11:52] <abrotman> try the command without sudo
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2809[16:12:01] <maxcell_> ok
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2810[16:12:03] <abrotman> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net
--recv-keys 2B90D010 ; gpg --export 2B90D010 | apt-key add -
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2812[16:12:43] <galex-713_> My syslog is 4Gio full of
“firmware: failed to load rt2860.bin”
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2813[16:12:48] <galex-713_> and is still filling
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2814[16:12:49] <abrotman> so install the firmware
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2815[16:12:53] <galex-713_> it is non-free
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2816[16:13:05] <maxcell_> abrotman, it says im not in sudoers
file
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2817[16:13:06] <abrotman> then unload the module
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2818[16:13:12] <galex-713_> and the computer is not a laptop, it
could be connected through wire
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2819[16:13:14] <abrotman> maxcell_: there shouldn't be a
sudo command in there
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2820[16:13:46] <maxcell_> abrotman, but it ask for the password
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2821[16:14:03] <maxcell_> abrotman, automatically
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2822[16:14:12] <abrotman> which command are you running?
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2823[16:14:13] <maxcell_> abrotman, without putting sudo
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2824[16:14:13] <galex-713_> abrotman, wait it works, why is this
module loaded if the wifi is not supported by free software?
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2825[16:14:21] <maxcell_> abrotman, gpg --keyserver
keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 2B90D010 ; gpg --export 2B90D010 | sudo
apt-key add
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2826[16:14:24] <galex-713_> how can I do so at next boot it
doesn’t load this module?
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2827[16:14:29] <galex-713_> can I uninstall it?
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2828[16:14:29] <abrotman> maxcell_: take sudo out of there
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2829[16:14:31] <maxcell_> abrotman, sorry
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2830[16:14:38] <maxcell_> run as root?
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2831[16:14:49] <abrotman> dpkg: tell galex-713_ about blacklist
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2832[16:14:51] <abrotman> maxcell_: yes
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2837[16:16:25] <dury> rephlexie, are you there
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2839[16:16:41] <maxcell_> abrotman, the command have worked as
before but look at this output: "gpg: key 7638D0442B90D010:
"Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (8/jessie)
<ftpmaster@debian.org>" not changed"
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2841[16:17:01] <galex-713_> abrotman, ok thank you, I reboot to
test and I’ll say you, thank you again
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2842[16:17:12] <maxcell_> abrotman, does it saying that this key
is from jessie and not for buster?
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2843[16:17:22] <abrotman> maxcell_: but you have buster sources
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2844[16:17:40] <maxcell_> well i install buster
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2846[16:19:23] <dury> rephlexie, so beaglebone boards can even
perfectly run stretch or what? or better continue with jessie
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2848[16:19:56] <rephlexie> dury,
replaced-url
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2849[16:20:03] <galex-713_> abrotman, it worked! thank you
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2851[16:20:06] <rephlexie> I have jessie on mine with no issues.
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2853[16:21:04] <dury> rephlexie, right I see
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2855[16:22:17] <dury> rephlexie, what do you do with your BBB? I
mean do you use it for what?
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2858[16:22:34] <maxcell_> abrotman, you have no idea what to do
to solve this right?
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2859[16:22:49] <maxcell_> abrotman, i'm completly lost
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2864[16:23:34] <dury> rephlexie, for web-server
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2865[16:23:51] <abrotman> maxcell_: LANG=C apt-get update ;
pastebin please
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2866[16:24:14] <dury> rephlexie, just like a normal computer?
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2870[16:25:13] <maxcell_> abrotman,
replaced-url
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2875[16:26:44] <abrotman> dpkg: no_pubkey
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2876[16:26:45] <dpkg> Seeing "There are no public keys
available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by
a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key
which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can
add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures
on the key. The current key will be linked at
replaced-url
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2882[16:29:03] <maxcell_> abrotman, how do i know if i have or
not the key, and if i dont how can i add the key listed?
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2884[16:29:20] <maxcell_> im so bad at this
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2886[16:29:47] <abrotman> can you install other packages? does it
give the same error?
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2887[16:31:23] <dury> abrotman,
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2888[16:31:29] <dury> sorry
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2889[16:31:30] <maxcell_> abrotman, seems like i can apt-get
install anything
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2890[16:31:53] <abrotman> can or cannot ?
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2897[16:33:26] <maxcell_> abrotman, i can install everthing i can
find in apt-get
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2898[16:33:36] <maxcell_> abrotman, the errors only on apt-get
update
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2899[16:33:47] <dury> abrotman, is there any problem to install
Skype and Spotify in Stretch using 32 bit architecture ?
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2900[16:33:55] <abrotman> I've never used those on linux
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2902[16:34:11] <abrotman> maxcell_: you might want to try a
different mirror, see if that helps
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2904[16:34:50] <jolt> I think you could mix the architectures,
but I've only tried that with 32bit apps on 64 bit arch
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2905[16:35:08] <maxcell_> abrotman, ok i will try that
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2906[16:35:22] <maxcell_> thanks
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2908[16:35:42] <dury> jolt, that's what I mean, though
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2911[16:37:36] <dury> jolt, Skype need 32bit architecture even
Spotify that's what I know by now I don't if it changes
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2912[16:38:17] <dury> if it changed I mean
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2918[16:38:53] <dury> jolt, see?
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2919[16:39:00] <mtn> dury, have you looked at the wiki? I know it
tells how to install skype, don't know about spotify
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2924[16:40:28] <dury> mtn, do you know that wiki url, please?
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2925[16:40:58] <mtn> dury, sorry, I would have to look it up. go
to google and type: debian wiki skype
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2926[16:41:31] <dury> mtn, all right... one sec.
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2936[16:44:05] <dury> mtn, yeah great 64bit skype for linux
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2937[16:44:24] <Adalid_Negro> hello, I want to ask about a issue
in my keyboard distribution after a upgrade from jessie
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2938[16:44:35] <petn-randall> !ask
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2939[16:44:35] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2942[16:46:23] <Adalid_Negro> I am a spanish speaker and the
accents are now in a weird way appearing in a single position like
that "avi´on", and I was tried to reconfigure
locales and setxkbmap and the issue persist
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2945[16:47:12] <dury> hey guys...when someone says that they want
ask about an issue... means a problem. is that right?
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2946[16:47:34] <maxcell_> I'm soffering with GPG errors on
buster: heres the output
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2948[16:47:38] <maxcell_>
replaced-url
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2950[16:48:16] <dury> just to keep my english up... that's
all though
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2951[16:48:19] <maxcell_> abrotman, btw i have changed the
repository but saddly didn't work
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2955[16:49:34] <dury> mtn, are you running "stretch"?
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2957[16:50:05] <mtn> dury, I have it installed
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2961[16:51:25] <dury> mtn, I want to know if it's more
stable and reliable and even worth than jessie?
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2966[16:51:58] <mtn> dury, there is only one way to tell if you
like it more or if it is stable for you. that is to test it.
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2968[16:52:29] <Silmaril> Hi guys, i've meet a
'nice' bug on wheezy (upgrade impossible for now) and, as
it look like, only on amd64 arch ... i've apache2 that is
logging ~1% of the requests with a hostname instead of a IP address
(in %h)
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2970[16:52:52] <dury> mtn, didn't test it yet
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2973[16:53:03] <Silmaril> and to make things much more funny, the
dns resolution is also wrong many times ..
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2975[16:53:30] <Silmaril> hum, might not be amd64 vs i386
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2977[16:54:07] <Silmaril> there is also a difference in the
worker i think
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2978[16:54:15] <Silmaril> hum, no, neverming
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2979[16:54:29] <Silmaril> nevermind, same work
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2980[16:54:29] <petn-randall> Silmaril: Reading the docs to
logging and the %h parameter I don't see an issue.
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2982[16:55:25] <dury> mtn, what about drivres for nvidia geforce
gt 650m graphic card, easy?
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2984[16:55:36] <Silmaril> petn-randall: well, i know
"%h" *might* log the host in that form
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2985[16:55:38] <password2> Hi
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2986[16:55:48] <password2> does debian keep a trash folder?
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2987[16:55:57] <mtn> dury, look at the wiki. it explains things
like that
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2988[16:56:00] <Shadur> "debian" does not.
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2989[16:56:10] <Silmaril> it is however not supposed to do this
when HostnameLookups is off
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2991[16:56:40] <password2> does gnome?
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2992[16:56:43] <Shadur> Various graphical file managers may or
may not, as their individual design decisions and/or configured
settings.
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2993[16:56:52] <petn-randall> Silmaril: So
"HostnameLookups" *is* off, and it's still logged as
hostname?
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2995[16:57:11] <password2> urg i deleted files in gone on my
phone , but it seems to have moved it somewhere else
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2996[16:57:15] <password2> gnome
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2997[16:57:36] <Shadur> I /think/ Nautilus defaults to one but I
rarely use a graphical file manager to begin with.
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2999[16:57:37] <mtn> password2, yes, gnome has a trash folder.
you can see it in the file manager
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3002[16:57:40] <dury> mtn, how would it be nvidia geforce gt
debian
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3004[16:57:49] <mtn> dury, look at the wiki. it explains things
like that
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3006[16:58:21] <password2> mtn: where does it defaults to?
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3009[16:58:48] <dury> mtn, sorry, just need a little help
that's all
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3012[16:59:07] <Silmaril> petn-randall: yup, but not at all times
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3015[16:59:22] <mtn> password2, look in the file manager. I am
not sure of the exact file path
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3018[17:00:00] <LtL> password2: try ./.local/share/Trash
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3020[17:00:21] <Silmaril> and not on all servers (it's a
shared hosting env we built, with "dynamic pages" handled
on i386 VMs, and static content on amd64 VMs (because created more
recently)
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3021[17:00:41] <Silmaril> the logging issue/weirdness happens
only on the static content servers ...
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3026[17:01:53] <password2> mtn: I'm not at a debian pc atm
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3028[17:02:04] <password2> but i did find it , thanx
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3056[17:10:26] <pierrot> I'm about to upgrade Debian from 8
to 9. Does this tutorial look fine for you?
replaced-url
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3061[17:12:17] <missmbob> pierrot: usee the official
replaced-url
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3064[17:13:38] <pierrot> I have third-party software like Skype,
Google Chrome and Hangouts. Apart from removing their respositories
from sources.list, should I remove those software as well?
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3067[17:14:07] <abrotman> they can likely remain
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3072[17:17:11] <pierrot> Thanks missmbob and abrotman
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3073[17:17:53] <missmbob> huh. my wiki password of quite a few
years stopped working
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3075[17:18:23] <petn-randall> missmbob: caps lock / keyboard
layout?
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3076[17:18:45] <missmbob> petn-randall: keypass
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3077[17:19:22] <petn-randall> *keepass
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3078[17:19:31] <missmbob> yeah :P
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3081[17:20:07] * petn-randall wonders if it's pronounced kee-pass
or keep-ass.
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3083[17:20:29] <abrotman> ke-ep-ass
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3084[17:21:20] <missmbob> seriously guys...can anyone log into
wiki?
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3091[17:23:56] <Silmaril> petn-randall: to make thing a bit more
"fun" (and buggy), here is an exemple of log on which
i've added the value of the X-Forwarded-For field which is set
by my LB system
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3092[17:23:59] <Silmaril> 112.152.127.78.rev.sfr.net - -
[04/Jul/2017:16:58:16 +0200] "HEAD /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1"
403 - "[...]" "Mozilla/5.0 [...]" 90.94.254.134
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3094[17:24:33] <Silmaril> and ... the reverse of 90.94.254.134 is
... not xxx.sfr.net but
"134.254.94.90.dynamic.jazztel.es." ...
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3100[17:27:28] <Silmaril> i will switch to %a at least it should
be less problematic
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3102[17:28:37] <gnunix> Hi, Today I installed Debian 9, and i
came from Manjaro Linux, i really liked the color scheme of that,
and I was wondering if I am able to 'copy' that style of
manjaro into Debian GNU/Linux.
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3104[17:28:42] <gnunix> Is that possible?
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3105[17:29:09] <mtn> gnunix, those are called themes and yes you
can
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3112[17:34:19] <gnunix> min: How? i can't seem to find a
manjaro like theme for Gnome
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3120[17:36:02] <carmelo10> hi
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3121[17:36:10] <jhutchins> gnunix: manjaro probably defaults to
KDE like mandrake/mandriva did. You could see if you can find a KDE
theme that matches. (You can actually extract the theme from
manjaro, but that requires some knowledge of how themes are put
together.)
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3122[17:36:20] <mtn> gnunix, you would need to find out which
theme manjaro uses and then find that them. I have done it before
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3126[17:36:38] <mtn> them/then
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3131[17:37:00] <gnunix> jhutchins: Manjaro uses xfce, but i read
that xfce themes can apply to gnome?
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3132[17:37:17] <mtn> gnunix, yes, xfce is xfce as in any distro
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3133[17:37:38] <carmelo10> I would like to know whether to
install the netinst version of debian 9 on usb key I should use just
these two commands
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3135[17:37:48] <carmelo10> cp debian.iso /dev/sdb
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3136[17:37:51] <carmelo10> sync
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3137[17:38:16] <missmbob> gnunix: really just ask then what theme
they use by default. that's all you need to know
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3139[17:38:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps
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3140[17:38:34] <Eryn_1983_FL> should i use the jenkins in the
offical repo of debian or should i install their version?
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3141[17:38:34] <missmbob> carmelo10: as sudo, yes
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3142[17:38:39] <Eryn_1983_FL> i am running old stable jessie..
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3143[17:38:40] <Silmaril> carmelo10: dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb
should work, not sure about cp ..
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3144[17:38:44] <gnunix> missmbob: will do.
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3146[17:38:59] <missmbob> Silmaril: cp is what the install guide
recommends
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3148[17:39:15] <Silmaril> ok
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3150[17:39:31] <Silmaril> never ever used in 17 years
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3151[17:39:41] <Silmaril> we learn something every days
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3155[17:40:33] <carmelo10> cp is what install guide recommends,
is equivalent to dd?
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3156[17:40:43] <petn-randall> Silmaril: it's because the
default block size with dd is too small, and it's also longer
to type. That's why we recommend 'cp' in here. ;)
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3158[17:41:28] <missmbob> easier not to make mistakes
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3160[17:41:51] <carmelo10> petn-randall Just those two commands
are enough?
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3163[17:43:14] <petn-randall> carmelo10: Assuming /dev/sdb is
your USB stick, yes. Double-check that it's not some other
device, though.
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3164[17:43:22] <Silmaril> petn-randall: ok, yes it's clearly
simpler
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3165[17:43:57] <Silmaril> in never though cp could write on a
block device (without replacing said device ^^)
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3170[17:45:19] <petn-randall> Silmaril: it /does/ replace all its
contents, though :)
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3172[17:45:35] <carmelo10> Perfect, and if I want to format the
pendrive from scratch, should I recreate the partition table with
gparted?
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3174[17:45:57] <petn-randall> carmelo10: yes, that will destroy
the installation image, though.
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3177[17:47:09] <Silmaril> petn-randall: obviously ;)
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3178[17:47:12] <jhutchins> carmelo10: There is no need to format
or partition it before copying the image to it, the image replaces
all partitioning and formatting.
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3179[17:47:34] <carmelo10> petn-randall I ask you why canceling
it with dd i would not get the inaccessible pendrive
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3182[17:48:47] <petn-randall> carmelo10: Can you rephrase? I
don't understand what you mean.
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3187[17:50:29] <carmelo10> petn-randall Using the command dd
if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb I'm afraid to make the pendrive
inaccessible
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3195[17:53:30] <petn-randall> carmelo10: It will just be
formatted. You can simply re-create a new partition table,
partitions and filesystems on it with gparted.
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3198[17:54:03] <carmelo10> petn-randall new partion table is
equivalent to dd?
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3200[17:55:07] <petn-randall> carmelo10: no.
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3208[17:58:07] <kion> Sometimes when shutting down, I get a
message that "a stop job is running...." and takes about a
minute, I checked my logs when shutting down and found that a Gnome
Terminal server gets started and tracker extract tries to create a
file...
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3209[17:58:11] <kion> both take a long time
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3210[17:58:24] <kion> here is the messages in my log
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3211[17:58:35] <kion>
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3215[17:58:57] <carmelo10> You can directly copy netinst's
iso with cp on the pen drive, because the iso is hybrid?
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3226[18:01:55] <polaris> I have the same issue, sometimes when I
shut down there is "a stop job is running..."
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3228[18:02:34] <somiaj> polaris: does the job eventaully stop,
some jobs just take some time to properly shutdown.
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3229[18:02:48] <somiaj> and that is systemd pausing until that
job finishes its shutdown process.
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3230[18:03:04] <somiaj> libvirt is one here that takes a bit
longer than normal to shut down since it has to shut down all the
vms
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3233[18:03:53] <jhutchins> carmelo10: You can copy any iso image
directly to a flash drive (or burn it to a disk).
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3234[18:04:11] <jhutchins> carmelo10: A bootable image will then
be bootable from that device.
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3236[18:04:51] <kion> somiaj, Yes, eventually it stops, after a
while, but most ofthen than not, my computer will shutdown in about
2 or 3 seconds, but whenever that message appears anywhere to 1 or 2
minutes
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3241[18:05:37] <fr3kzy> hi there
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3242[18:05:50] <somiaj> kion: the job is not properly shutting
down. If you think there is an error you need to invesigate the
service that isn't shutting down and try to figure out why.
Logs can help.
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3245[18:06:31] <carmelo10> jhutchins fily system how to format
it? ext4, fat32, ntfs ..?
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3246[18:06:35] <somiaj> kion: it could also be the job was in the
middle of something and just needs the extra time to finish what it
was doing to it can shut down properly.
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3247[18:06:37] <fr3kzy> can i ask something?! when i try to vpn
my network and then join the hexchat the hexchat does not working !
why?
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3248[18:06:47] <kion> somiaj, I did 'Sudo tail -f
/var/log/syslog' and then proceded to shutdown... the logged
text was
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3250[18:07:03] <kion>
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3251[18:07:08] <somiaj> carmelo10: the debian .iso come with a
very special partition table and filesystem, you do not need to
format anything.
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3252[18:07:27] <somiaj> fr3kzy: do you join the vpn network after
having hexchat up?
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3255[18:08:12] <carmelo10> somiaj Then unallocated?
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3256[18:08:13] <somiaj> kion: what is the actual job/service that
is the culprit, I can't deduce that form what you pated.
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3257[18:08:15] <fr3kzy> i cant join vpn network when hexchat is
working
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3259[18:08:32] <fr3kzy> and when i join the vpn network i cant
join hexchat
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3262[18:09:00] <somiaj> fr3kzy: when you connect to a vpn it
changes all your routes. So any current estabilished connenctions
will not work whiel the vpn is up. Happens here to with irssi for
me.
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3263[18:09:00] <polaris> Yes somiaj, the job eventually stops.
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3264[18:09:11] <kion> 3 20:34:53 pollux systemd[931]: Started
GNOME Terminal Server.
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3265[18:09:11] <kion> Jul 3 20:35:30 pollux dbus-daemon[947]:
Activating via systemd: service name='org.gnome.Terminal'
unit='gnome-terminal-server.service'
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3267[18:09:27] <somiaj> polaris: that is systemd doing what it is
designed to do. Waiting for all jobs to correctly stop before
shutting down, this way jobs don't get killed.
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3268[18:09:29] <kion> somiaj, that is the first jump in time
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3269[18:10:15] <kion> somiaj, the second happens with
"tracker-extract[1232]: unable to create file
'/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Permission denied. "
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3270[18:10:15] <fr3kzy> what happens with my anonymity?!
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3273[18:10:42] <kion> somiaj, it seems that the latter was
reported as a bug..
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3276[18:11:07] <kion> Debian Bug report logs - #732209
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3277[18:11:09] <judd> Bug
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3278[18:11:10] <somiaj> fr3kzy: I can't quite follow what
order you are doing things in. But if you first bring up the vpn
network, you should be able to use hexchat after wards (unless for
somereason your vpn network doesn't allow connenction to irc)
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3282[18:11:34] <fr3kzy> thank you
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3296[18:17:39] <jhutchins> carmelo10: It does not matter how the
device is formatted, the formatting will be overwritten.
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3299[18:17:54] <jhutchins> carmelo10: An iso image file is a
complete filesystem, already 'formatted'.
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3300[18:18:37] <jhutchins> carmelo10: You can even mount it and
treat it like an ordinary filesystem (although iso9669 is
read-only).
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3301[18:18:45] <jhutchins> iso 9660
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3303[18:21:05] <carmelo10> jhutchins Do I know this, but the
pendrive partition must be unallocated before executing the cp
command?
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3304[18:21:31] <carmelo10> Even if it is overwritten?
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3306[18:22:05] <missmbob> carmelo10: no
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3309[18:23:28] <petn-randall> carmelo10: You've already
asked if those two commands you mentioned are all that is needed to
prepare the USB stick, and the answer was yes. There are no further
steps involved in that process.
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3313[18:25:32] <jhutchins> carmelo10: No, the copy will overwrite
anything on the device.
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3315[18:26:24] <carmelo10> So initially the pendrive can also be
unallocated
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3316[18:26:37] <jhutchins> carmelo10: It doesn't matter.
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3321[18:30:47] <carmelo10> jhutchins ok
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3330[18:35:28] <carmelo10> I have a last question, i have been
having an annoying bug for some time that freeze the debian
operating system
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3336[18:37:34] <carmelo10> this is the bug
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3337[18:37:37] <judd> Bug
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3339[18:38:39] <carmelo10> I also posted backtrace, can it
suffice?
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3347[18:42:24] <jhutchins> carmelo10: Bugreport implies that
upgrading to current relase will fix the problem.
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3349[18:44:15] <carmelo10> jhutchins Are you sure it was solved?
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3354[18:44:53] <jhutchins> carmelo10: No, that's up to you.
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3356[18:45:16] <carmelo10> Also to understand what is due
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3369[18:49:05] <vadimkolchev> Ok, i managed to locate problem
with my USB dongle. Starting wpa_supplicant and the dhclient I am
able to connect. Then I see that periodically my dongle communicates
to router and sends passkey again. It works couple of times until
suddenly I get conn_failed. At this point only disabling and
enabling wpa_supplicant helps. Loses connection in a minute or so.
Could you please help?
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3371[18:49:14] <jhutchins> carmelo10: It is not necessary to
reinstall in order to upgrade.
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3373[18:49:32] <jhutchins> carmelo10: If the bug persists in
stretch you shoudl re-report it.
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3374[18:49:32] <vadimkolchev> Using firmware rt2870.bin, loaded
properly
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3379[18:50:04] <carmelo10> My question is: is the backtrace I
posted can suffice to correct the bug if it has not been solved yet?
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3382[18:50:50] <jhutchins> carmelo10: That's not something
we can answer.
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3383[18:51:04] <jhutchins> carmelo10: You can wait and see what
the maintainer's response is.
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3385[18:52:20] <carmelo10> jhutchins ok,I hope the times are not
too long, as I have pointed it out as critical
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3387[18:53:11] <jhutchins> ,v xorg-server
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3388[18:53:12] <judd> No package named 'xorg-server'
was found in amd64.
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3390[18:54:24] <jhutchins> ,v xxerver-xorg-core
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'xxerver-xorg-core' was found in amd64.
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3392[18:54:31] <jhutchins> ,v xerver-xorg-core
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3393[18:54:32] <judd> No package named
'xerver-xorg-core' was found in amd64.
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3401[19:00:12] <TheWild> hello
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3404[19:01:20] <TheWild> I'm trying to do a network
installation (mini.iso) on a 8 GB SD card. The problem is that
partition manager does not list it.
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3406[19:01:53] <TheWild> though I can run the shell and the
device is visible under /dev/sdb
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3412[19:02:49] <TheWild> ah dammit, the write protection was on.
My bad, my bad...
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3418[19:05:12] <petn-randall> TheWild: Glad we could help :)
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3421[19:06:48] <TheWild> ;) not so fast, I had to restart the
installation.
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3423[19:07:14] <password4> Hi
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3425[19:08:03] <password4> the install dvds , I want to
permanently mounts them for apt-get , what is most elagant way?
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3426[19:08:21] <password4> can I merg the pools of each or just
extract it?
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3429[19:11:42] <password4> or is it better to mount the isos and
point apt0get to them?
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3440[19:17:50] <LtL> password4:
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3441[19:18:28] <password4> LtL: apt-cdrom does not work
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3442[19:18:40] <password4> it might work if i had cdroms
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3443[19:19:19] <petn-randall> password4: It does work if you add
the ISOs to your /etc/fstab.
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3444[19:19:25] <password4> merging pools seemed to fail
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3445[19:19:54] <password4> Ideally I'd not have to mount
anything
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3446[19:20:12] <petn-randall> password4: Or just read the wiki
page. It tells you how to add isos.
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3447[19:20:36] <password4> petn-randall: i dont like that
solution all that much
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3448[19:20:39] <petn-randall> It's in the first paragraph of
that link.
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3449[19:20:56] <password4> I already mounted my isos
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3451[19:21:03] <petn-randall> password4: Which solution? Adding
the isos with apt-cdrom?
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3456[19:21:37] <password4> i just used mount , and then pointed
apt0get to the mount dirs
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3459[19:22:16] <password4> Would ahve been nice if i could
extract the packages and not even have to mount anything
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3461[19:23:43] <password4> also is there an online place where i
can search what packages is in stable/testing?
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3465[19:24:41] <missmbob>
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3466[19:25:00] <vadimkolchev> Okay, seems like my wifi dongle not
working due to some bug in wpa_supplicant. Installed jessie version,
and it works great now. I installed it with dpkg, so how can I pin
it to prevent update?
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3468[19:25:51] <password4> urg , I need to fix my installation of
debian
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3472[19:26:35] <password4> Release file for
file:/iso/dtest1/dists/buster/Release is expired (invalid since 1d
14h 57min 18s) , why oh why is this an error?
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3475[19:27:13] <missmbob> buster isnt even supported here
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3476[19:27:21] <missmbob> !debian-next
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3477[19:27:21] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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3479[19:28:30] <password4> is it only testing whose release files
expires?
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3481[19:28:47] <missmbob> ask the testing people
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3483[19:30:00] <jhutchins> vadimkolchev: Does the stretch version
not work properly?
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3485[19:30:11] <password4> meh
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3488[19:30:36] <vadimkolchev> jhutchins, it is not, already filed
a bug. After downgrade my wifi worked immediately
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3489[19:30:40] <password4> If only i can get the installer for
stable to work
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3490[19:30:44] <TheWild> petn-randall: yes, that was it.
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3491[19:30:47] <jhutchins> !pinning
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3492[19:30:47] <dpkg> Pinning is a method to choose which version
of a package to install when multiple versions are available from
<sources.list>. Bugs are explained at
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