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25 [00:14:36] <jhutchins> Ede|Popede: No, haven't
reassigned anything.
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27 [00:14:52] <jhutchins> Ede|Popede: Just upgraded from jessie
to stretch.
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35 [00:17:10] <p0rt> yo so i need some help with ibus on linux
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38 [00:17:47] <p0rt> i've installed it and added those
variables to my ~/.profile but it doesn't work at all
39 [00:18:07] <p0rt> i.e it looks like it's not recognised
as an input method
40 [00:18:22] <p0rt> can't input japanese nor russian
despite them being enabled in ibus settings
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43 [00:18:39] <p0rt> i'm using debian testing with
awesomewm
44 [00:19:44] <p0rt> and the icon is there, the daemon is
enabled because i can even choose an input method and it's
currently set to type hiragana but as you can see i'm not
typing hiragana.
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52 [00:22:35] <Ede|Popede> jhutchins: no, i mean for testing
purposes. if the presses get through to xfce at all.
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58 [00:24:53] <Ede|Popede> p0rt: with "enabled" and
"set" do yo mean it actually shows you that hiranaga
should be the choice now? because selecting it in the dialog and
then closing it isn't enough as i had to find out
59 [00:25:25] <p0rt> Ede|Popede: yeah i can see an 'a'
in hiragana in my tray rn
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64 [00:27:01] <Ede|Popede> added russian here, also no effect.
hm.
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70 [00:32:38] <Ede|Popede> Да!
71 [00:33:07] <Ede|Popede> p0rt: in the settings of the panel
thingy, last tab: use system settings
72 [00:33:32] <p0rt> uhm
73 [00:33:34] <p0rt> which panel?
74 [00:33:55] <Ede|Popede> ibus icon > preferences > tab
Advanced
75 [00:34:02] <p0rt> yeah
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77 [00:34:41] <p0rt> there's: use system keyboard layout
and share the same input method among all applications
78 [00:34:46] <Ede|Popede> 1st
79 [00:34:57] <Ede|Popede> should be off
80 [00:35:13] <Ede|Popede> seems it takes some settings from
/etc/whatever
81 [00:35:33] <p0rt> it is off :<
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85 [00:36:23] <Ede|Popede> oh. i restarted the whole ibus thing
(context menu). well, i tried. had to reimplement it (and at this
occasion had to restart the whole panel :>)
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96 [00:38:36] <p0rt> oh actually russian works
97 [00:39:17] <p0rt> switching with alt+space doesn't but
if i click on the ibus icon and then select russian with my mouse it
does work
98 [00:39:27] <p0rt> anthy still doesn't work though
99 [00:39:35] <Ede|Popede> super is the *cough* key. between
ctrl and alt
100 [00:40:16] <p0rt> yeah it is!
101 [00:40:46] <Ede|Popede> M-space would be suboptimal. defaults
on program menu
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106 [00:42:37] <p0rt> Ede|Popede: what does it have to do with
anthy or ibus tho?
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108 [00:42:57] <p0rt> OH WAIT i had +R
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110 [00:44:56] <stevenroose> Hi, quick question. Upon
installation, I accidentally left the "debian desktop
environment" checkbox checked. Which packages are that?
I'd like to uninstall them.
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115 [00:47:13] <LtL> stevenroose: type 'dpkg -l task*'
it should tell you.
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117 [00:47:52] <stevenroose> LtL: thanks!
118 [00:48:02] <LtL> stevenroose: welcome
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120 [00:49:13] <Ede|Popede> is the assumption of the top answer
here correct?
replaced-url
121 [00:49:15] <Ede|Popede> >
122 [00:49:15] <Ede|Popede> If no specific desktop environment is
selected, but the “Debian desktop environment” is, the
default which ends up installed is determined by tasksel: on i386
and amd64, it’s GNOME, on other architectures, it’s
XFCE.
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124 [00:50:21] <liamliamliam> hey all
125 [00:50:42] <p0rt> Ede|Popede: ayy everything works out of the
blue
126 [00:50:54] <Ede|Popede> great
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128 [00:51:22] <Ede|Popede> hiranaga works?
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132 [00:51:37] <p0rt> はい！
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134 [00:51:53] <Ede|Popede> btw, i have no clue why all this is
installed on *my* machine. seems i made the install from the live
disc :>
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215 [01:42:06] <ghormoon> is there anything packaged for rstp in
debian? (ecept setting it all in openvswitch which I didn't
manage :))
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330 [03:30:55] <fuxxy> Finally finished my guide for joining
Debian to a Windows Domain
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348 [03:41:16] <danielboston26> does anyone here use alpine?
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351 [03:42:20] <dvs> !ask
352 [03:42:20] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
353 [03:43:44] <danielboston26> well the only people who would
know the answer use alpine but here goes my inbox is blank
354 [03:43:55] <danielboston26> the setup and folder config looks
good
355 [03:43:55] <annadane> ,i alpine
356 [03:43:57] <judd> Package alpine (mail, optional) in
stretch/amd64: Text-based email client, friendly for novices but
powerful. Version: 2.20+dfsg1-7; Size: 1882.0k; Installed: 8246k;
Homepage:
replaced-url
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358 [03:44:06] <danielboston26> i am getting email
359 [03:44:18] <danielboston26> its just i have a blank inbox
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377 [03:56:32] <danielboston26> hmmm so i guess no one knows?
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379 [03:58:09] <dvs> I guess no one in here right now knows
alpine
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382 [04:00:44] <danielboston26> dvs, do you know if there is an
alpine channel? ##alpine seems to be dead
383 [04:01:00] <dvs> I don't know
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386 [04:02:59] <danielboston26> it has to be some config issue i
am able to see mail in other folders just not the inbox
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388 [04:03:11] <danielboston26> i wonder if fastmail could help?
389 [04:03:19] <danielboston26> they are pretty nerdy
390 [04:03:26] <danielboston26> someone there might be using
alpine
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424 [04:43:25] <annadane> is the sort of standard thing people do
for openbox, to just copy /etc/xdg/openbox to .config? i guess that
gives you the best default options to start with (at least if you
want to edit stuff per-user)
425 [04:43:49] <annadane> autostart, environment, menu.xml,
rc.xml
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429 [04:47:58] <annadane> well never mind i guess i answered my
own question
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438 [05:01:40] <ghormoon> hi, does anyone see anything broken
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444 [05:11:03] <danielboston26> how do i add a user?
445 [05:11:14] <danielboston26> useradd doesn't work
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447 [05:11:40] <dvs> adduser?
448 [05:11:40] <annadane> try adduser
449 [05:11:51] <dvs> liar!
450 [05:13:03] <danielboston26> that isn't working either
says command not found
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453 [05:14:33] <dvs> ,v adduser
454 [05:14:34] <judd> Package: adduser on amd64 -- jessie:
3.113+nmu3; wheezy: 3.113+nmu3; stretch: 3.115; buster: 3.118; sid:
3.118
455 [05:14:57] <danielboston26> does adduser have to be in my
path?
456 [05:15:10] <dvs> if you're root
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458 [05:16:02] <annadane> silly dvs, adduser wouldn't not be
in Stable
459 [05:16:16] * dvs slaps self
460 [05:16:17] <annadane> or really any branch
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462 [05:16:33] <danielboston26> im not root regular user
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464 [05:16:40] <danielboston26> im in debian 9
465 [05:16:56] <annadane> you probably have to be root
466 [05:17:14] <annadane> well actually you definitely have to
467 [05:17:20] * annadane also slaps self
468 [05:17:27] <danielboston26> that worked
469 [05:17:33] <annadane> !next
470 [05:17:33] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
471 [05:17:45] <danielboston26> thats weird it should say you
need to be root not no such command
472 [05:17:54] <annadane> anyway, in general, use adduser.
it's preferable to useradd
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475 [05:22:25] <ghormoon> hm, bond0.1001 name works, but vlan1001
doesn't strange that on my other debian box it does work
476 [05:22:38] <ryouma> annadane: if only it were named
non-confusingly
477 [05:23:02] <ryouma> mnemonically
478 [05:23:15] <annadane> i guess but you wouldn't change it
now, it'd just confuse people
479 [05:23:33] <annadane> this is why you try to remember UNIX
gives you just enough rope to hang yourself, and to read the man
pages
480 [05:23:33] <ryouma> yeah
481 [05:23:44] <ghormoon> what's the advantage? I've
been always using useradd -m
482 [05:23:56] <ryouma> well it's just that why name a new
command teh same as the old one but transpose it
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484 [05:24:08] <annadane> don't know TBPH. i just know
adduser is an easier-to-use frontend
485 [05:25:00] <annadane> "if you don't know
better" it's better to stick to frontends
486 [05:25:04] <ghormoon> for me adduser always did some
magic/questions etc i didn't want :D
487 [05:25:07] <annadane> learn the other stuff later
488 [05:25:11] <annadane> well, fair enough
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491 [05:25:39] <ghormoon> but it's true that i often forget
to set shell when using useradd and then fixing it later
492 [05:26:09] <annadane> if greycat were here he'd bitch at
us about it
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495 [05:27:57] <dvs> heh
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509 [05:41:03] <ghormoon> any ideas why the bond0.nnnn interfaces
are rename13@bond0: ? it happened to me with the first, but fixed
after reboot, I've added more and it doesn't fix after
reboot for them :(
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528 [06:01:01] <ghormoon> any idea why if vlans setup like this:
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530 [06:03:16] <kalok322> Hello, If I start LFS using debian,
will my linux distro be "debian based"?
531 [06:03:59] <RichardKentWurth> no
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534 [06:04:53] <kalok322> will it just be a linux distro? righit?
535 [06:04:56] <kalok322> right*
536 [06:05:16] <RichardKentWurth> yes
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540 [06:06:17] <kalok322> Thanks. ;-)
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547 [06:11:29] <ghormoon> what all distro needs to do to be
actually considered debian based? use apt? use debian package
sources and just modify them? have the same kernel?
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553 [06:16:23] <RichardKentWurth> "A Debian derivative is a
distribution that is based on the work done in Debian but has its
own identity, goals and audience and is created by an entity that is
independent from Debian. Derivatives modify Debian to achieve the
goals they set for themselves."
554 [06:16:30] <RichardKentWurth>
replaced-url
555 [06:17:08] <RichardKentWurth> So according to that, you start
with Debian, then change it.
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564 [06:27:56] <ghormoon> I've just noticed with the vlans
that I've got logs like: kernel: rename13: renamed from
bond0.2001, wth?
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577 [06:41:05] <ozzloy> what's an easy way to see a bunch of
actual debian package source code, specifically preinst and postinst
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580 [06:44:56] <ghormoon> i think I'm triggering some bug in
ifup code, if i do vconfig rem rename13, bond0.2001 appears riht
away there
581 [06:45:05] <ozzloy> nm, found
replaced-url
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596 [07:12:33] <shtrb> How can I tag a bug report for an earlier
version ?
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654 [07:55:04] <fuxxy> Correct.
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736 [08:54:14] <discovered> where is the debian-kde channel?
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739 [08:56:51] <themill> discovered: there's a #debian-kde
on irc.oftc.net (most #debian* channels are on oftc)
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758 [09:07:22] <shtrb> How can I tag a bug report for an earlier
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760 [09:07:57] <shtrb>
replaced-url
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772 [09:16:17] <themill> shtrb:
replaced-url
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775 [09:19:22] <shtrb> themill, should found: 914011 5.8.6 be
enough ?
776 [09:19:28] <shtrb> ,v plasma-workspace
777 [09:19:29] <judd> Package: plasma-workspace on amd64 --
stretch: 4:5.8.6-2.1+deb9u1; stretch-security: 4:5.8.6-2.1+deb9u1;
buster: 4:5.13.5-1+b1; sid: 4:5.13.5-1+b1
778 [09:19:42] <shtrb> or I need the full value ?
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784 [09:22:28] <themill> always use version strings that actually
exist
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786 [09:22:35] <shtrb> ok
787 [09:22:37] <themill> and no colon
788 [09:22:54] <themill> (no colon after found)
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806 [09:32:16] <discovered> I am trying to run conky on startup.
But after restarting debian the previous is not cleared. It just
increment a new process. Here is how i did it
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811 [09:35:00] <discovered> I created a script with command of
"conky -q -c "/home/discovered/.conky/custom.conky"
&" and added a .desktop file in autostart folder. Now i see
3 process of conky is running. I don't know why it is
incrementing by itself. What am i doing wrong?
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824 [09:43:47] <ghormoon> hi, any idea how to print two images on
one paper (two sided) without any conversion that would touch their
sizes? I've tried convert with -border 0x0 and -extent same
size as the image but still there's some slight difference, it
slighly resizes them for some reason. the input images have exact
size for A4 from gimp, so I want them to have no additional borders
etc, I even print them without any border
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833 [09:52:01] <themill> ghormoon: I'd probably pop the
images into a PDF or PS file first, perhaps with convert.
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843 [09:57:29] <ghormoon> themill: that's the issue where
Ididn't manage to not to get them sligtly resized and therefore
off if printed both sides
844 [09:58:07] <themill> but at which stage has that happened?
845 [10:00:22] <ghormoon> convert to pdf I think, but tbh
I'm not 100% sure
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847 [10:00:52] <themill> you can look at the PDF to know
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850 [10:02:07] <ghormoon> not really, I can see it on the paper
looking in bright light, can't see few pixels scaledown by eye
on the pdf
851 [10:02:15] <ghormoon> maybe if I can somehow overlay them and
make white transparent
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854 [10:04:02] <themill> convert foo.png foo.pdf; convert foo.pdf
foo2.png gives exactly the same sized images
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856 [10:05:37] <themill> (or at least it did on this random pdf I
just tried)
857 [10:05:39] <ghormoon> imput.png: PNG image data, 3150 x 4455,
8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced ---- tmp.png: PNG image data, 595 x
842, 4-bit colormap, non-interlaced
858 [10:06:08] <themill> fun
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871 [10:09:25] <untitled> Something weird is going on with java
in debian 9. I updated tomcat and it stopped working. Then I tried
tomcat from the web page, it didn't work either, then I
installed java from the web site and it worked with packaged tomcat
872 [10:09:41] <untitled>
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895 [10:22:30] <Eryn_1983_FL> hi
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899 [10:23:20] <int3h_> hi
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934 [10:42:12] <Dyl0n> Hi all !
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998 [11:14:41] <discovered> #join #debian-next
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1002 [11:14:54] <discovered> can't join :(
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1004 [11:15:42] <n4dir> /msg dpkg debian-next
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1007 [11:16:21] <discovered> o
1008 [11:16:32] <n4dir> ups. Anyway: either type what i accidently
posted here, or join #debian-next on the oftc irc network, not this
network
1009 [11:17:14] <discovered> I was wondering if debian 10 stable
will be released soon!
1010 [11:17:31] <SpeedyG> early next year is what I heard
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assume sometimes middle of 2019.
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1026 [11:22:21] <discovered> There is no torrent for debian iso
... right? http download seems too slow
1027 [11:23:24] <discovered> oh got it
replaced-url
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1034 [11:26:30] <Fox> discovered: there are torrents for debian
iso, for stable at least
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1036 [11:26:49] <Fox> i've been too slow :)
1037 [11:26:59] <discovered> Yes, i found that :)
1038 [11:27:02] <bazhang> most would use the net install, so
that's moot
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1040 [11:27:28] <discovered> i also use netinstall
1041 [11:27:43] <bazhang> distrowatch has most every iso torrent
out there
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1045 [11:29:14] <discovered> Thinking to move from KDE to Gnome
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1047 [11:29:40] <bazhang> rhel is making kde deprecated
1048 [11:29:54] <discovered> huh? :)
1049 [11:30:01] <discovered> KDE declining?
1050 [11:30:03] <bazhang> yep
1051 [11:30:11] <bazhang> deprecated
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1053 [11:30:28] <bazhang> means as in will no longer offer it
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1055 [11:32:09] <discovered> better to use gnome from now :) KDE
has some hidden bugs perhaps heh
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1060 [11:34:40] <discovered> what app you prefer to use USB disk
image?
1061 [11:35:17] <bazhang> as in write iso to usb?
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1064 [11:35:36] <tarzeau> dd
1065 [11:36:06] <bazhang> the debian iso could even be
'cat'ed
1066 [11:36:31] <discovered> bazhang, yes
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1068 [11:36:52] <discovered> i am going to reinstall debian
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1330 [13:56:51] <pragomer> is there a ready-to-use, 32bit debian
distro with a nice openbox desktop? (searching something like
manjaro openbox, but debian based)
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1335 [13:59:02] <themill> pragomer: 1) install debian, 2) install
openbox, 3) profit?
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1337 [14:00:48] <pragomer> yes, this would be the most clean way I
know.. just searched for a ready distro to get some ideas and
examples for the config files..
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1367 [14:21:27] <petn-randall> pragomer: If you use a different
distro, you won't get support in this channel, though.
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1389 [14:37:17] <n4dir> pragomer: there is bunsenlabs or such. I
guess just use a live CD, copy and store the configs, themes, etc,
and call it a day.
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1392 [14:38:31] <n4dir> but then: if you like the manjaro setup,
use that. Might be antix has openbox too, i don't think so, but
they always have been in window-managers
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1413 [14:54:35] <danielboston26> What took over for redo backup it
seems so simply and clonezilla is not is there a simple imager for
linux?
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1419 [14:56:29] <skunkz> Hi, `apt-cache show weechat` gives 2
results (2.2-1~bpo9+1 and 1.6-1+deb9u2). When I apt-get install
weechat it selects the 1.6.1, how can I choose the 2.2.1 instead?
1420 [14:57:26] <danielboston26> Apt install weechat 2.2.1
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1426 [14:58:05] <bites> skunkz: please read the instructions:
replaced-url
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1428 [14:58:45] <danielboston26> bites wouldn’t telling apt
which version to install work?
1429 [14:59:14] <danielboston26> Since apt is already seeing it I
don’t think he needs backports
1430 [14:59:38] <bites> it might cause problems with dependencies
because packages in backports might depends on other packages in
backports.
1431 [15:00:20] <danielboston26> skunkz: do you have backports
added to your sources file?
1432 [15:00:27] <themill> obviously
1433 [15:00:50] <themill> (also, that is also not how you specify
a version in any case)
1434 [15:00:50] <skunkz> I don't think so, I used the default
google cloud platform image but didn't configure any source
file
1435 [15:01:08] <danielboston26> Hmm maybe google adds it?
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1437 [15:01:14] <themill> if you're seeing a version string
like "2.2-1~bpo9+1" you do
1438 [15:01:25] <skunkz> I tried apt-get install
weechat=2.2-1~bpo9+1 but I have unmet dependencies
1439 [15:01:35] <themill> please read the instructions ;(
1440 [15:01:39] <danielboston26> Ah I missed that
1441 [15:01:52] <danielboston26> Yes you have backports skunkz
1442 [15:01:52] <skunkz> Yeah got it, bpo = back ports o....
1443 [15:02:22] <danielboston26> It’s non trivial to install
from backports I gave up
1444 [15:02:40] <danielboston26> If you want later versions of
software switch go testing
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1446 [15:02:59] <themill> danielboston26: please stop
1447 [15:03:04] <danielboston26> To testing*
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1449 [15:03:31] <skunkz> I don't **need** the new version,
it's just that weechat 1.6 and onwards had vulnerabilities that
are now fixed according to their website
1450 [15:04:06] <Mathisen> why not grab the source ?
replaced-url
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1453 [15:04:27] <danielboston26> wait it will be added to stable
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1455 [15:04:58] <danielboston26> Since I’m not allowed to
mention the other method apparently
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1458 [15:05:24] <themill> danielboston26: I just want you to stop
giving bad advice.
1459 [15:05:28] <skunkz> I could grab the source but I prefer
using the repo so I get updates without keeping track of all the
software I manualy install
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1462 [15:06:06] <danielboston26> themill: I misread his original
question
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1465 [15:06:37] <skunkz> my sources.list doesn't appear to
have backports though, I only have stretch main stretch-updates main
and stretch/updates main
1466 [15:06:53] <themill> danielboston26: and then gave commands
that wouldn't work and then started offering advice to do
upgrade to testing that wouldn't help...
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1470 [15:07:14] <themill> skunkz: presumably in
/etc/apt/sources.list.d; have you just tried installing the package
as per the instructions?
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1474 [15:08:58] <skunkz> right it was in sources.list.d and the
instrctions you provided worked thnks
1475 [15:09:21] <themill> :
1476 [15:09:23] <themill> :)
1477 [15:10:13] <skunkz> how can I tell which repo packages come
from ? It's not obvious that
1478 [15:10:30] <skunkz> 2.2.1 was in backports when I ued
apt-cache show
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1480 [15:11:26] <themill> apt-cache policy $package
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1482 [15:11:49] <themill> (that tells you where it *would* come
from, not necessarily where it did come from)
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1484 [15:12:38] <skunkz> not sure I understand the last sentence
but it's perfect thanks
1485 [15:13:28] <themill> it tells you where the package would
come from if you installed it right now which is not the same as
answering the question of where it came from some time in the past
1486 [15:14:15] <skunkz> hmmm okay
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1532 [15:54:25] <Ede|Popede> i had 2 strange entries in htop,
(metadata) from gvfsd and (sd-pam) from systemd. systemd seems to
have had an update since last reboot (ctime). and root, exe, cwd are
all broken links. gvfsd's ctime is clearly older, so this
can't be the reason for the naming. what is it then?
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1637 [16:50:40] <annadane> really trivial question: in pcmanfm is
there a way to move or remove the "create new tab for this
folder" button? i don't want it to be left of the
"back" button
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1639 [16:51:43] <JerryXiao> annadane: you can always change the
code and recompile it.
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1641 [16:53:57] <annadane> maybe i can edit some of the things in
/usr/share/pcmanfm
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1643 [16:55:55] <pagios> hi is there a risk of doing a service
mdadm restart when i have running software raid in healthy mode?
Idea is i added an email address to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and would
like to receive notification when something bad happens
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1645 [16:57:07] <AlexPortable> ln: failed to create symbolic link
'/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/: No such file or directory
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1649 [16:57:17] <AlexPortable> i used the command apt-get install
-o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confnew" apache2
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1652 [16:58:00] <greycat> Sounds like you tried to create a
symlink with an empty name somehow.
1653 [16:58:10] <AlexPortable> I rm'ed the config folder
1654 [16:58:13] <greycat> it should have said
'/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/somesite.conf' or similar
1655 [16:58:18] <greycat> ... you what.
1656 [16:58:23] <greycat> well, put it back.
1657 [16:58:30] <AlexPortable> it was there after i removed the
package
1658 [16:58:33] <AlexPortable> so i got rid of it
1659 [16:59:03] <AlexPortable> how do i restore it to default
config?
1660 [16:59:35] <greycat> drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 Nov 12 09:17
/etc/apache2/
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1662 [16:59:44] <greycat> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 12 09:17
/etc/apache2/sites-available
1663 [16:59:44] <greycat> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 20 2015
/etc/apache2/sites-enabled
1664 [16:59:56] <pagios> ?
1665 [16:59:59] <AlexPortable> i just want to get rid of all
config and make it again
1666 [17:00:06] <jelly> AlexPortable: reinstall the package
providing that folder
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1675 [17:00:59] <jelly> pagios: which debian release?
1676 [17:01:13] <pagios> 9.
1677 [17:01:17] <pagios> stretch
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1681 [17:03:05] <maxdawid> do you have system installed on this
array ?
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1685 [17:03:45] <jelly> pagios: is mdadm service running at all on
your installation?
1686 [17:03:57] <pagios> yea
1687 [17:04:08] <pagios> 00:00:00 /sbin/mdadm --monitor --scan
1688 [17:04:23] <jelly> that's just the process. What about
the service.
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1692 [17:04:26] <jelly> systemctl list-unit-files|grep mdadm #
it's not, say, masked?
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1697 [17:05:39] <jelly> pagios: you're probably looking for
the mdmonitor service.
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1702 [17:09:31] <pagios> jelly, btw i am using nullmailer, i want
all emaisl sent to root to be redirect to info@tin.com i added root:
info@tin.com to /etc/aliases newaliases and it doesnt work yet
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1709 [17:10:30] <AlexPortable> jelly: will just keep the old
config files
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1711 [17:10:37] <jelly> I don't remember whether nullmailer
uses /etc/aliases at all
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1715 [17:11:35] <JerryXiao> annadane: edit files t
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1717 [17:12:10] <JerryXiao> managed by packet manager is not a
good idea
1718 [17:12:32] <JerryXiao> package (
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1725 [17:14:03] <annadane> JerryXiao, how is it suggested i go
about it then?
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1727 [17:15:00] <JerryXiao> if that's not so annoying, live
with it
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1729 [17:15:26] <annadane> well i mean, you said change the code
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1732 [17:16:11] <JerryXiao> then you need to get familiar with the
code of pcmanfm
1733 [17:16:28] <JerryXiao> at least you should know what to
change
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1735 [17:16:56] <annadane> i guess. i've never been ever
fully satisfied with file managers, maybe i should learn to make my
own :P
1736 [17:17:00] <JerryXiao> and then maybe you can create a pr or
patch
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1739 [17:18:43] <JerryXiao> annadane: Dolphin by KDE maybe a
better choice
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1749 [17:21:17] <JordiGH> Anyone got any good games on main to
recommend?
1750 [17:21:34] <JordiGH> abrotman: You used to be the one to
recommend them.
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1752 [17:22:13] <annadane> JordiGH, i always liked ardentryst
1753 [17:22:18] <annadane> ragequitted when it got too hard :P
1754 [17:22:24] <JordiGH> Ooh, I like hard game.s
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1756 [17:23:04] <JordiGH> How exciting, I know nothing of this
game and I'm about to experience it for the first time.
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1758 [17:24:04] <JordiGH> Ooh, nice intro screen.
1759 [17:24:04] <JordiGH> But I'm at work. I'll check it
for real later.
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1762 [17:24:47] <annadane> i don't need _more_ games to get
addicted to
1763 [17:24:54] <annadane> so i'll leave that alone for now
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1766 [17:26:01] <pagios> emails to localhost on my server are
usuallt sent to root or to root@localhost ?
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1786 [17:36:17] <abrotman> JordiGH: I have a PS4 now .. :)
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1789 [17:39:40] <JordiGH> Pfft, doesn't have free games.
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1816 [17:50:34] <DammitJim> how do I find out what a user is
running on bash that is using high CPU?
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1818 [17:50:45] <greycat> top
1819 [17:50:48] <DammitJim> when I use top, it just tells me the
user and the command being bash
1820 [17:50:53] <DammitJim> any way I can get more specifics?
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1822 [17:50:58] <greycat> walk over to their terminal and ask them
1823 [17:51:40] <DammitJim> LOL...I tried, but they claim they
aren't running anything
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1825 [17:52:02] <DammitJim> and when I ran ps on their terminal,
nothing showed up
1826 [17:52:05] <SwedeMike> DammitJim: then just kill it.
1827 [17:52:38] <DammitJim> I'm ready to do that SwedeMike
... but I wanted to learn if there was a different way of finding
out so I can point it out in their noses
1828 [17:53:01] <SwedeMike> DammitJim: you can use "strace -p
<pid>" to see if the process seems to be doing anything
1829 [17:53:18] <bindi> I think htop is more detailed than top in
the process information
1830 [17:53:36] <DammitJim> oh, it keeps printing: read(0,
"", 1) = 0
1831 [17:53:37] <DammitJim> lol
1832 [17:54:29] <greycat> Does this bash process even *have* a
controlling terminal at all?
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1835 [17:55:01] <DammitJim> I don't know (trying to learn)
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1839 [17:55:41] <greycat> UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD
1840 [17:55:41] <greycat> wooledg 853 849 0 Nov12 pts/15 00:00:00
bash-5.0
1841 [17:55:51] <greycat> See the TTY column?
1842 [17:56:04] <DammitJim> pts/15?
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1844 [17:56:11] <greycat> Does your runaway bash have a TTY?
1845 [17:56:34] <DammitJim> how did you get that? what command? ps
?
1846 [17:56:42] <greycat> I specifically ran "ps -fp $$"
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1850 [17:57:51] <DammitJim> hhmmmm... I don't see the bash
process when I run that
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1852 [17:58:08] <greycat> $$ means the PID of the current shell
1853 [17:58:16] <greycat> I asked for ONE process to SHOW YOU AN
EXAMPLE
1854 [17:58:20] <jelly> you'll want to use the right PID
instead of $$
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1856 [17:58:27] <greycat> You are expected to run "ps
-ef" or whatever.
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1858 [17:58:39] <greycat> or "ps -fp YOURPID"
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1861 [17:59:33] <DammitJim> ok, great
1862 [17:59:36] <DammitJim> tty says ?
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1865 [17:59:53] <greycat> Then just kill it. It's not running
in a terminal, so something bad happened. You will never find out
what.
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1870 [18:01:01] <DammitJim> thanks
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1881 [18:05:37] <discovered> Finally, Moved to Gnome! :)
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1891 [18:10:05] <annadane> if gnome changes everything every
version it _really_ must be a culture shock to those who follow the
debian stable release cycle of 2 years between versions
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1893 [18:10:22] <discovered> Debian turn off the monitor for
seconds after login. It is happening after installation of nvidia
driver from stretch backports. Is it normal?
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1917 [18:21:38] <rk[ghost]> i have added : 'deb
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1979 [18:49:39] <jfbourdeau> Hello everyone. I am new to Debian, I
installed Debian Strech/Gnome and just upgraded it to Debian/Buster
because I was having some issue with my HP OfficeJet Printer. NOw
the printing is ok, but the scanner does not work.... Is not
recognized... Anyone could help me figureout why ? I tried to
install : sh hplip-3.18.10.run but it was giviing error about "
missing pyqt4-dbus "
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1982 [18:50:29] <jfbourdeau> My Printer is a OfficeJet Pro 8600
Plus
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1985 [18:52:08] <madage> do you have package python-qt4-dbus
installed?
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1988 [18:52:53] <jfbourdeau> madage: yoda@yoda:~$ sudo dpkg -i
pyqt4-dbus
1989 [18:52:53] <jfbourdeau> dpkg: error: cannot access archive
'pyqt4-dbus': No such file or directory
1990 [18:52:53] <jfbourdeau> yoda@yoda:~$
1991 [18:52:53] <dpkg> jfbourdeau: You are person #1 to send an
unparseable request
1992 [18:53:24] <madage> read again
1993 [18:53:28] <madage> python-qt4-dbus
1994 [18:53:44] <greycat> also, dpkg -i is not how you ask whether
it's installed. this isn't rpm.
1995 [18:53:48] <madage> and dpkg?
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1997 [18:54:12] <madage> --get-selections maybe
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2000 [18:54:38] <greycat> Oh come on, seriously. It's
"dpkg -l pkgname" to ask for the installation state of a
package. And it doesn't need sudo.
2001 [18:54:39] <jfbourdeau> how to I install ( sorry, I am a
newbie with respect to Debian )
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2004 [18:54:48] <greycat> l as in list
2005 [18:54:52] <madage> if you are on buster, you should be aware
of these
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2015 [18:58:10] <jfbourdeau> so the right way / command to install
pyqt4-dbus ? anyone ? apt-get install name ? dpkg -i package name ?
if I am not in the right debian forum for newbie question, my
appologies. I come from the Ubuntu world and my skills are limited
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2017 [18:58:35] <greycat> Why should we bother helping if you keep
ignoring everything that we tell you?
2018 [18:59:01] <greycat> How on EARTH did you manage to upgrade
to buster if you don't even know how to request the
installation of a package by name?
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2020 [18:59:30] <jfbourdeau> greycat: do you always talk like this
to newcomer & If I offended you in anyway, my apoligies... I may
have missed something that you saw that was obvious to you and not
to me... Tks for your patient though
2021 [18:59:49] <greycat> 12:52 madage> do you have package
python-qt4-dbus installed?
2022 [18:59:54] <greycat> 12:53 madage> read again
2023 [18:59:56] <greycat> 12:53 madage> python-qt4-dbus
2024 [19:00:05] <jfbourdeau> dpkg -l python-qt4-dbus
2025 [19:00:05] <jfbourdeau>
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
2026 [19:00:05] <jfbourdeau> |
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
2027 [19:00:05] <jfbourdeau> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required
(Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
2028 [19:00:05] <jfbourdeau> ||/ Name Version Architecture
Description
2029 [19:00:05] <jfbourdeau>
+++-===============-================-============-==============================
2030 [19:00:05] <jfbourdeau> ii python-qt4-dbus 4.12.1+dfsg-2+b1
amd64 D-Bus Support for PyQt4
2031 [19:00:05] <dpkg> ii python-qt4-dbus 3.2-4 ultra s3kr1t
#debian package
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2054 [19:07:16] <Kadigan> Hey, guys... I know rel versions are
locked on current-stable, so... how do I get the latest Apache2 on?
There's a way newer one on Ondrej's PPA, but it relies on
a bunch of stuff I can't resolve. Is there some way I could get
around this?
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2059 [19:08:36] <Kadigan> (I'm on 9.5)
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2062 [19:09:09] <RoyK> !ppa
2063 [19:09:10] <dpkg> [ppa] Personal Package Archive (see
replaced-url
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2065 [19:09:40] <jfbourdeau> Been kicked but not sure why
2066 [19:09:41] <annadane> ,v apache2
2067 [19:09:42] <judd> Package: apache2 on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u13; jessie:
2.4.10-10+deb8u12; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u12;
stretch-security: 2.4.25-3+deb9u4; stretch: 2.4.25-3+deb9u6; buster:
2.4.37-1; sid: 2.4.37-1
2068 [19:10:00] <annadane> jfbourdeau, because you pasted a lot of
lines and the bot kicked you for spam, use paste.debian.net instead
2069 [19:10:02] <greycat> The point of a stable release is not to
have the "highest version number" all the time, but
rather, a carefully selected and well-tested suite of programs that
work.
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2072 [19:10:49] <Kadigan> No, I get that. I wanted to have that
particular software up to a newer revision in order to enable TLS
1.3 support - and that's either 2.4.36 or 2.4.37, I believe.
2073 [19:10:59] <jfbourdeau> tks annadane
2074 [19:11:24] <greycat> jfbourdeau: so the answer was "yes,
I have python-qt4-dbus version 4.12.1+dfsg-2+b1 installed."
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2076 [19:13:20] <N3X15> ,v lighttpd
2077 [19:13:21] <judd> Package: lighttpd on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.4.31-4+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 1.4.31-4+deb7u5; jessie:
1.4.35-4+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1.4.35-4+deb8u1; stretch:
1.4.45-1; buster: 1.4.49-1.1+b1; sid: 1.4.49-1.1+b1
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2080 [19:15:24] <annadane> judd, checkbackport apache2
--fromrelease sid --torelease stretch
2081 [19:15:25] <judd> Backporting package apache2 in
sid→stretch/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: libapr1-dev (>= 1.6.0), libaprutil1-dev (>=
1.6.0), libssl-dev (>= 1.1.1).
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2083 [19:15:31] <annadane> ah. was just curious.
2084 [19:16:01] <jfbourdeau> this error trying to install HPLIP
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2085 [19:16:13] <greycat> !debian-next
2086 [19:16:13] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2091 [19:17:50] <annadane> if you had a problem with a printer and
upgraded to buster due to it but don't know package management
basics, i can't help but wonder if the answer was "you can
fix it in stretch already, don't upgrade to buster", but
whatever
2092 [19:18:03] <annadane> because buster may/will break
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2096 [19:20:07] <jfbourdeau> from what I read annadane I was under
the impression buster has everything " more recent "
including drivers... BUt it was may be a bad move. instead of
troubleshooting in stretch, as My skills are limited, took the
chance to move to buster thinking it would fix the problem by
itself..As I heard Ubuntu is based on Buster ( am I right ) and that
my printer / scanner was working well on Ubunt...
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2098 [19:20:33] <annadane> this is why you ask #debian for support
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2100 [19:21:00] <N3X15> lighttpd appears to be broken with TLS
v1.3 on stretch with a bug which was fixed in upstream.
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2101 [19:21:03] <annadane> upgrading to testing is a legitimate
reason sometimes and does fix issues sometimes but the first step
would be to ask this channel
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2103 [19:21:33] <N3X15> Should I just go ahead and compile it with
the patch myself or are there plans to implement that fix?
2104 [19:21:36] <lrwerewolf> Anyone here good with preseed
partitioning expert recipes? Having some issues with my preseed
(found at:
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2105 [19:21:58] <madage> jfbourdeau: where are you trying to
install this driver from?
2106 [19:21:58] <annadane> so as far as buster goes, it enters
freeze fairly soon and you may want to stay on it at this point, but
it does break more than stable, but if you want stable you'd
basically need to reinstall, debian doesn't really support
downgrades, it's up to you
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2113 [19:23:24] <madage> jfbourdeau: and did you get any logs on
the failing scanner before trying to install
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2116 [19:24:05] <jfbourdeau> madage: your question as simple as it
is is complicated for me :-) do you mean what are my sources ?
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2118 [19:25:09] <jfbourdeau> madage: when tryint to install HPlib,
the installer now point to other packages
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2124 [19:27:04] <madage> jfbourdeau: so, maybe upgrading
isn't the best course of action
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2128 [19:28:04] <jfbourdeau> madage: is it simple to go back to
Strech now that I am in Buster, without reinstalling all my apps ?
2129 [19:28:32] <greycat> No. There's no going back without
reinstalling from scratch.
2130 [19:28:40] <madage> no, backup and reinstall
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2133 [19:28:51] <jfbourdeau> tks greycat ( I am learning a lot
today )
2134 [19:29:25] <BCMM> lrwerewolf: andyreplaced-url
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2137 [19:30:03] <jfbourdeau> ok tks madage and greycat wherever
you are in the world :-) I will google a bit and try to fix it,
staying at Buster... And worse case, reinstall
2138 [19:30:06] <madage> after that you can search on backports,
if you are unable to print
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2141 [19:30:36] <jfbourdeau> ok madage ( backports)... Will google
what it means to search on backports ;-)
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2143 [19:30:51] <greycat> !stretch-backports
2144 [19:30:51] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Buster (Debian
10) but recompiled for use with Stretch (Debian 9) can be found in
the stretch-backports repository. See
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2145 [19:30:56] <bitess> jfbourdeau: backports doesn't matter
to you if you stay on buster.
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2148 [19:31:11] <jfbourdeau> ok bitess
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2150 [19:31:49] <bitess> jfbourdeau: are you still trying to get
that script of yours to run? how is that going?
2151 [19:31:57] <jfbourdeau> understood though... Backports is NEW
STUFF we can incorportate into Stretch without going to Buster or a
new version
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2154 [19:33:05] <jfbourdeau> will go again read the basics about
stable, testing, unstable and so on... Tks again... I have
debian/Linux 101 homework to do now :-)
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2158 [19:33:53] <jfbourdeau> bitess: I was trying to install some
HP new version in case it could fix my driver problem
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2159 [19:35:23] <jfbourdeau> bitess: this is a part of what I got
runing hplip-3.18.10.run thiking it would install more recente
drivers/hp librairies
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2173 [19:42:55] <bitess> ,i hplip
2174 [19:42:56] <judd> Package hplip (utils, optional) in
stretch/amd64: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP).
Version: 3.16.11+repack0-3; Size: 141.3k; Installed: 316k; Homepage:
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2175 [19:43:09] <bitess> jfbourdeau: did you try hplip from the
debian repos?
2176 [19:43:44] <annadane> anyone have any recommendations for a
menu for tint2?
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2178 [19:44:12] <annadane> actually i was trying to use rofi and
couldn't get it to work, i should probably just stick to
that...
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2185 [19:48:29] <sharp15> i did a debian net install and told the
installer to use us-dvorak now i need to un-do the setting for the
VTs. anyone know how to move this to us-qwerty the debian way? i can
edit grub.conf but not sure that is a good idea.
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2187 [19:49:19] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: iirc, dpkg-reconfigure
console-data
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2197 [19:54:33] <annadane> ok, i don't understand what's
going on with openbox here. i edit .config/openbox/rc.xml, put in
the keybind for rofi, it gives me an error message when i
"reconfigure" and now i can't right click on the
desktop
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2199 [19:54:46] <annadane> i'll paste the rc.xml, you can see
where i added rofi
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2201 [19:55:29] <annadane>
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2204 [19:56:38] <annadane>
replaced-url
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2206 [19:58:05] <annadane> "404 page not found" for that
file.io link... what?
2207 [19:58:19] <annadane> i guess it expires really quickly or
something
2208 [19:58:41] <annadane> anyway,
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2213 [19:59:48] <sharp15> SerajewelKS: well. it says that package
isn't installed.
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2217 [20:02:17] <bitess> annadane: you don't close the
<action> tag.
2218 [20:02:27] <bitess> annadane: line 177
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2222 [20:03:30] <annadane> bitess, sorry, not understanding
2223 [20:03:36] <jfbourdeau> bitess: " hplip from the debian
repos? " I downloaded it from HP
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2226 [20:04:00] <bitess> annadane: you have an <action> tag
in line 177. you need to close it with </action>
2227 [20:04:13] <annadane> ah
2228 [20:04:30] <BCMM> jfbourdeau: right, is that because the one
included from debian is too old for your hardware, or what?
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2230 [20:05:12] <bitess> jfbourdeau: yes, you got it from hp and
you have problems installing it. debian offers exactly the same
version as official debian package.
2231 [20:05:35] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: i think it changed.
console-setup
2232 [20:05:40] <jfbourdeau> BCMM: googling here and there, ended
up taking the HP one thiking it would be more recent and solve my
problem.
2233 [20:05:42] <SerajewelKS> it used to be console-data
2234 [20:05:44] <jfbourdeau> now I just did : sudo apt-get install
hplip
2235 [20:06:06] <sharp15> SerajewelKS: keyboard-configuration got
it. now i need make sure its changed in the initramfs.
2236 [20:06:36] <BCMM> jfbourdeau: so now do you have two
different versions installed on top of each other? or was the
version from the hp site a .deb that cleanly uninstalls?
2237 [20:07:24] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: might have to manually
update it
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2239 [20:08:23] <jfbourdeau> BCMM: the HP one I tried to install
was from a file I needed to run, sh hplip-3.18.10.run
2240 [20:08:34] <jfbourdeau> so it is some script
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2242 [20:09:13] <jfbourdeau> if you ask me if I now stuff (
librairies / drivers ) from both installed ? May be... / Don't
know
2243 [20:09:19] <BCMM> it would probably be advisible to uninstall
that before trying the debian version
2244 [20:09:28] <BCMM> (i hope it comes with an uninstaller...)
2245 [20:09:33] <jfbourdeau> nope
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2248 [20:10:01] <jfbourdeau> I installed the one from Debian, my
printer is still " printer properly" but no luck with the
scanner
2249 [20:10:09] <jfbourdeau> sorry for typo
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2256 [20:13:47] <jfbourdeau> may be one last question in case i
decide to reinstall... I install Debian / Gnome on my Main Desktop
and Ubunty Gnome on my TV PC ( because of some wireless card driver
problem, Ubuntu got it working easily). For my main, desktop PC,
what advantage do you see for me to use Debian/Gnome instaid of
Ubuntu/gnome ( both same interface)... Is Debian/ Gnome faster or
more stable ?
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2258 [20:13:59] <annadane> bitess,
replaced-url
2259 [20:14:11] <N3X15> Well
2260 [20:14:33] <bitess> annadane: no idea, i never touched
openbox.
2261 [20:14:41] <N3X15> Looks like the lighttpd maintainer is AWOL
and the package in stable is completely broken with TLS 1.3.
replaced-url
2262 [20:15:08] <N3X15> I'm getting this issue as of last
night.
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2266 [20:17:30] <annadane> well, whatever then. i'll go ask
somewhere more openbox focused
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2270 [20:19:39] <jhutchins_wk> Has anybody running
chrome/xfce/stretch seen keyboard oddities, certain shortcuts not
working?
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2272 [20:21:08] <Mathisen> jhutchins_wk, i machines with just that
setup and i have not seen it
2273 [20:21:22] <Mathisen> using chromium and not chrome doh
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2275 [20:21:35] <bitess> annadane: find out how to trigger
commands with keybindings. it's probably not going to be
through an attribute called "name"
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2277 [20:21:56] <bitess> annadane: if you look at the other
keybindings, there is a <command> tag.
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2284 [20:24:40] <jfbourdeau> to those who tried to helped my for
my HP OfficeJet 8600 Scanner problem, tks... problem solved
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2289 [20:26:42] <jhutchins_wk> Mathisen: Thanks for the response
anyway. I have a second machine I can test on, but it has a
different upgrade history.
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2309 [20:38:35] <lrwerewolf_> Can anyone recommend a good
reference for partman expert-recipes? The partman-auto-recipe.txt
really has not been at all helpful nor the other blogs/articles
I've found on the topic.
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2313 [20:44:30] <bramford> lrwerewofl_: I used the example preseed
+ hours of trial-and-error to figure it out -
replaced-url
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2316 [20:46:18] <bramford> lrwerewolf_: Here's my preseed
which uses LVM for everything including /boot -
replaced-url
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2326 [20:53:26] <lrwerewolf_> bramford: That's the spot where
I'm getting tripped up -- for reasons I have no control over,
/boot must be physical primary partition 1.
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2342 [21:00:31] <lrwerewolf_> But I suppose right now, to be
honest, even having /boot in the LVM would be progress if it
installed cleanly.... lemme give that atry.
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2357 [21:06:25] <AciD`> hey, anybody here knows how to
'reset' the bogofilter spam filter? Somehow it started to
classify 99% of my mail as spam :/
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2371 [21:10:16] <Tom-_> never used bogofilter, does it have a
configuration directory?
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2373 [21:11:42] <jhutchins_wk> It should have a file (or a
database) where it stores known spam characteristics.
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2380 [21:14:43] <AciD`> Tom-_ ⟹ it has, in ~/.bogofilter, and
according to their faq there should be a way to 'reset'
the token (replaced-url
2381 [21:15:15] <AciD`> jhutchins ⟹ I guess I'll just delete
the file and hope that my emails clients will not enter in a dead
lock
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2459 [22:05:07] <zmeu> hello guys. i have some trouble with my
debian , when i try to download over http all is good. but on https
my connection speed its low, too low. what I can do to fix ?
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2461 [22:06:22] <NetTerminalGene> zmeu, download with what?
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2464 [22:06:32] <zmeu> any files
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2467 [22:06:57] <zmeu> or youtube, facebook watch, this happen
just on HTTPS links
2468 [22:07:34] <NetTerminalGene> with firefox?
2469 [22:07:52] <NetTerminalGene> i don't think is it because
of debian
2470 [22:08:05] <zmeu> with any apps
2471 [22:08:08] <zmeu> also i created a hotspot
2472 [22:08:11] <zmeu> and same trouble
2473 [22:08:25] <zmeu> it can be from sysctl.conf?
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2477 [22:08:58] <SerajewelKS> is your CPU too slow to handle the
decryption?
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2479 [22:09:30] <zmeu> 3 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz
2480 [22:09:48] <AciD`> for info, removing the bogofilter db file
does not break kmail
2481 [22:09:48] <SerajewelKS> what about using wget/curl to
download something?
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2484 [22:10:07] <zmeu> wget/curl = same problem ; hotspot to
another device = same problem
2485 [22:10:15] <zmeu> this happen just on https
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2487 [22:10:40] <zmeu>
replaced-url
2488 [22:11:00] <SerajewelKS> the only way i can even think of
something like that happening is if you have iptables marking https
packets for tc filters that put them in a class with very restricted
bandwidth
2489 [22:11:07] <SerajewelKS> but you'd have to pretty
specifically set that up
2490 [22:11:25] <zmeu> i didnt do anything just sysctl change
2491 [22:11:32] <SerajewelKS> what change?
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2493 [22:11:39] <zmeu> [23:10:40] <zmeu>
replaced-url
2494 [22:11:42] <SerajewelKS> also, does the same thing happen on
a different user? what if you run wget/curl as root?
2495 [22:11:50] <SerajewelKS> that doesn't tell me what you
changed
2496 [22:11:52] <zmeu> i tried
2497 [22:11:53] <zmeu> user / root
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2500 [22:12:54] <zmeu> can be from this: iptables -t mangle -A
FORWARD -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN -m tcpmss --mss
0:65535 -j TCPMSS --set-mss 1360 ?
2501 [22:13:34] <SerajewelKS> it's possible. what are your
INPUT rules?
2502 [22:13:43] <greycat> If you get rid of your iptables rules,
and the problem goes away, then you know it was probably your
iptables rules.
2503 [22:13:43] <SerajewelKS> if you're blindly blocking ICMP
then PMTU discovery may fail
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2508 [22:14:45] <SerajewelKS> i ran into this where i
couldn't reach Sprint's website over IPv6 because they
were blocking ICMPv6 packet-too-large errors generated by my router
2509 [22:15:33] <zmeu>
replaced-url
2510 [22:16:40] <SerajewelKS> if wget/curl run on this server then
the FORWARD chain is irrelevant since locally-generated packets
don't go through that
2511 [22:17:02] <zmeu> so what can be
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2515 [22:17:45] <SerajewelKS> i'd say follow greycat's
advice. remove rules one by one until the problem goes away.
2516 [22:17:51] <Tenkawa> it sounds like cpu/nic perforance
2517 [22:18:21] <Tenkawa> if its specific to encryption
2518 [22:18:28] <SerajewelKS> i'm not sure how the NIC would
be that involved, HTTPS has more overhead but not that much...
2519 [22:18:36] <SerajewelKS> in terms of traffic, i mean
2520 [22:18:44] <SerajewelKS> and i don't know any NICs that
do TLS offloading
2521 [22:19:00] <zmeu> too weird
2522 [22:19:06] <Tenkawa> SerajewelKS: depends on the website cert
too though
2523 [22:19:08] <SerajewelKS> CPU is more than powerful enough
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2526 [22:19:43] <Tenkawa> it is definitely odd
2527 [22:20:02] <zmeu> 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=58
time=13.0 ms
2528 [22:20:04] <SerajewelKS> what does top say about the
downloading process?
2529 [22:20:06] <Tenkawa> zmeu: anything in syslog?
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2531 [22:20:18] <SerajewelKS> excessive CPU use? RAM use?
2532 [22:20:22] <SerajewelKS> high iowait?
2533 [22:20:34] <jhutchins_wk> zmeu: Back the sysctl changes out,
test, make them a few at a time and test each group.
2534 [22:20:36] <zmeu> no
2535 [22:21:00] <zmeu> MEM used 334 kb
2536 [22:21:07] <zmeu> 6271 kb free
2537 [22:21:14] <jhutchins_wk> zmeu: Are you using this as a
router?
2538 [22:21:18] <zmeu> yes
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2547 [22:24:39] <SerajewelKS> is the whole connection slow, or
just the initial handshake?
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2550 [22:25:14] <zmeu> just the initial handshake
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2555 [22:25:43] <SerajewelKS> might tcpdump to see where it's
getting stuck
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2558 [22:26:01] <Tenkawa> have you checked your dns routing
2559 [22:26:01] <sharp15> SerajewelKS: ty for your help earlier.
2560 [22:26:03] <SerajewelKS> some TLS clients do reverse DNS
lookups against the server IP
2561 [22:26:11] <SerajewelKS> if that's timing out, that
could explain the delay
2562 [22:26:14] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: np
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2564 [22:26:25] <SerajewelKS> tcpdump or strace against curl
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2567 [22:26:55] <zmeu> ok i will try
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2592 [22:43:15] <agio> hi, when I look into my Xorg.log files I
see entries that look like:
2593 [22:43:19] <agio> [311706.119] (**) Option
"xkb_layout" "us"
2594 [22:44:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1431
2595 [22:44:10] <agio> how can I print log file so that this
[311706.119] becomes a human readble timestamp?
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2597 [22:44:25] <greycat> it's 311706 seconds after the
kernel started
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2599 [22:45:04] <greycat> (roughly 3.6 hours)
2600 [22:45:18] <greycat> err... 3.6 days
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2603 [22:46:15] <N3X15> holy hell lighttpd took a long time to fix
2604 [22:46:32] <greycat> In any case, discover what the real life
time was when your kernel booted (e.g. by running uptime and doing
the arithmetic on that), and then add 311706 seconds to it, and
there you are.
2605 [22:46:58] <agio> isn't there a way to make the computer
work that out?
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2608 [22:47:46] <greycat> googles gives me
replaced-url
2609 [22:47:54] <Ede|Popede> `uptime -s` has a nice output format
for scripting the calculation
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2612 [22:48:47] <greycat> Meh, it's ... not that nice. It
wants to be in epoch (date +%s) form.
2613 [22:48:55] <greycat> I guess you can feed it to GNU date -d
to convert it.
2614 [22:49:17] <agio> maybe thats what the -s (since) option
helps with
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2616 [22:49:45] <agio> it gives you an absolute timestamp of when
system booted, it seems
2617 [22:49:56] <greycat> No, I tested it before I wrote here.
uptime -s does not give date +%s format.
2618 [22:50:16] <greycat> It gives you yyyy-mm-dd HH:MM:SS format
(man page says so).
2619 [22:50:59] <greycat> So, you could feed that to date -d +%s
to get an epoch format to which you can add 311706 seconds, which
you can then feed back into GNU date -d @$seconds to get a
human-readable form.
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2622 [22:51:38] <greycat> But if you're translating more than
one line, you really want to use something that has builtin time
manipulations. NOT bash. Bash is horrible for this. Forking a
date(1) command for every line of a large log file is unacceptable.
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2624 [22:52:22] <greycat> Second google result I looked at has a
perl version and a python version, quality unknown to me:
replaced-url
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2626 [22:52:59] <agio> ok, so `date -d' is where Im passing a
time to date (as opposed to "now")
2627 [22:53:05] <greycat> *sigh*
2628 [22:53:07] <greycat> why do I bother
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2639 [22:58:54] <InvisibleRasta> guys is it possible to install
with the debian iso on a btrfs subvolume?
2640 [22:59:05] <InvisibleRasta> i tried with debootstrap so many
times.. i keep getting errors
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2644 [22:59:43] <noln> yes
2645 [22:59:52] <InvisibleRasta> what iso should i grab?
2646 [23:00:08] <InvisibleRasta> netinstall one?
2647 [23:00:15] <noln> works with netinst at least
2648 [23:00:20] <SerajewelKS> aren't you the guy who tried
debootstrap and for some reason had files missing
2649 [23:00:30] <SerajewelKS> but it worked on an ext4 volume
2650 [23:00:30] <InvisibleRasta> yeah
2651 [23:00:37] <InvisibleRasta> no it didnt
2652 [23:00:43] <SerajewelKS> oh it didn't?
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2655 [23:01:07] <InvisibleRasta> i get missing stuff
2656 [23:01:09] <InvisibleRasta> all the times
2657 [23:01:12] <InvisibleRasta> idk whats wrong with it
2658 [23:01:29] <SerajewelKS> weird
2659 [23:02:06] <InvisibleRasta> noln: the 300mb image?
2660 [23:02:20] <InvisibleRasta> debian-9.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso
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2663 [23:04:13] <Brigo> InvisibleRasta, are you aware of lxc?
2664 [23:04:20] <InvisibleRasta> what is that?
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2667 [23:04:52] <Brigo> kernel containers
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2675 [23:07:22] <InvisibleRasta> not sure
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2686 [23:10:53] <RoyK> InvisibleRasta: ever heard of docker?
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2689 [23:13:00] <Aqo> hi guys
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2691 [23:13:06] <Aqo> is there go (golang) in apt-get
2692 [23:13:14] <Aqo> or should I download it manually with curl
2693 [23:13:28] <bites> ,v golang
2694 [23:13:29] <judd> Package: golang on amd64 -- wheezy:
2:1.0.2-1.1; wheezy-security: 2:1.0.2-1.1+deb7u3; jessie: 2:1.3.3-1;
jessie-backports: 2:1.7~5~bpo8+1; stretch: 2:1.7~5;
stretch-backports: 2:1.10~5~bpo9+1; buster: 2:1.10~5; sid: 2:1.10~5
2695 [23:13:31] <Aqo> the name "go" isn't very
search-friendly
2696 [23:13:38] <bites> it's there.
2697 [23:13:40] <Aqo> ah
2698 [23:13:48] <Aqo> so I should use "golang"
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2700 [23:13:57] <Aqo> thanks
2701 [23:14:24] <bites> no problemo
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2716 [23:23:05] <hydrajump> when booted from netinstall ISO in
Expert Install mode when I "Execute a Shell" and try to
edit some files using vim the editor behaves kinda strange. For
example when I try to add an empty line using `o` a line is deleted.
Is this because the bterm is limited somehow?
2717 [23:23:41] <OS-42477> hey
2718 [23:23:45] <n4dir> hydrajump: it probably is vi, not vim.
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2720 [23:24:23] <n4dir> not sure if that is your problem, i
don't know the difference that well.
2721 [23:24:24] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hi. I recently dist-upgraded to
stretch-backports and I get "*** Error in
`gnome-control-center': double free or corruption (out):
0x0000560662a07b10 ***" when trying to edit network settings.
2722 [23:24:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> Any ideas?
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2724 [23:24:57] <hydrajump> n4dir: hmm I checked and it says
it's vim 8
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2726 [23:25:00] <n4dir> yes. don't do that again. there is no
dist-upgrade to backports.
2727 [23:25:17] <n4dir> hydrajump: it was only a wild guess. i
can't say more. good luck.
2728 [23:26:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> n4dir, isn't that
equivalent to simply upgrading all packages to their backports
counterparts?
2729 [23:26:41] <n4dir> Eduard_Munteanu: it is, but that is not
the way backports is used. You install the (few) packages you need
from backports. More like that.
2730 [23:27:07] <n4dir> makes sense? pretty tired.
2731 [23:27:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> I'll roll back then.
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2733 [23:27:48] <hydrajump> n4dir: no worries. thank you
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2736 [23:28:37] <pho}e{nix> Hello everyone. I've got a tricky
problem :) I want to configure some kind of "proxy" or
"vpn tunnel" which will allow me to access multicast
streaming from another site. Details: I have a machine running with
a static ip on Site 1. If I were to use VLC player on that machine I
can access all my TV programs without issues. I have now moved to
another home and would like to access those same TV programs.
I've tried setting up an OpenVPN
2737 [23:28:37] <pho}e{nix> server on Site 1 and connect to it
from Site 2 but I cannot get the IPTV thing in VLC to start
streaming. It looks like it does not forward as it should. Has
anyone got experience with similar cases? Please help me out. My
antenna here gets like 5 national channels and they all suck pretty
bad.
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2739 [23:28:50] <OS-42477> I am not getting reverse shell while
exploiting VilnServer.exe. My shellcode gets executed into the
memory I checked and i got a message during attaching the the
vulnserver with immunity debugger that "module
'vulnServ' has entry point outside the code(as specified
in the PE header). May be this file is self-extracting or
self-modifying. Please keep in mind when setting breakpoints!"
2740 [23:29:37] <OS-42477> thanks in advance
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2766 [23:36:02] <petn-randall> OS-42477: You're in the wrong
channel.
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2769 [23:36:38] <petn-randall> !kali
2770 [23:36:38] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
2771 [23:36:42] <petn-randall> !parrot
2772 [23:36:42] <dpkg> Parrot OS (replaced-url
2773 [23:36:51] <petn-randall> OS-42477: Probably one of those.
^^^
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2994 [23:58:38] <InvisibleRasta> meh i cant install debian with
net isntall
2995 [23:58:44] <InvisibleRasta> its missing the iwlwifi modules
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