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          3 [00:03:13] <wintersky> getting back to the de/wm topic: this
            is my desktop i'm kinda proud of
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          4 [00:05:09] <oxek> wintersky: why is everything so big?
           
         
        
          5 [00:05:19] <wintersky> what is big?  
         
        
          6 [00:05:48] <wintersky> windows are small because it's
            the expose/manage mode
           
         
        
          7 [00:06:06] <wintersky> it's the part when you run new
            apps and select already running
           
         
        
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          9 [00:06:18] <oxek> everything. Icons take up so much space,
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            resolution low? Or is it just gnome?
           
         
        
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          11 [00:06:22] <wintersky> whn you click on any of them it gets
            focused
           
         
        
          12 [00:06:32] <wintersky> no, man, it's just the expose
            mode
           
         
        
          13 [00:06:38] <oxek> I know the expose mode
           
         
        
          14 [00:06:58] <wintersky>
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          15 [00:07:06] <wintersky> this is how it looks like with a
            window focused
           
         
        
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          19 [00:10:01] <oxek> somehow still looks odd to me, but I
            respect that people have different eyes and thus different
            preferences
           
         
        
          20 [00:10:08] <oxek> is it a netbook?  
         
        
          21 [00:10:28] <oxek> (small laptop)  
         
        
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          28 [00:16:50] <wintersky> i made a blog post out of it:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          32 [00:22:44] <wintersky> oxek: it's a thinkpad x250
           
         
        
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          88 [01:30:44] <bone-baboon> Is there a Linux kernel argument
            that sets the contents of /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/cursor_blink to
            "0"?
           
         
        
          89 [01:31:33] <sney> probably, /sys stuff tends to be exposed as
            both
           
         
        
          90 [01:31:44] <maroloccio> HI. I have 3 servers and 20 systemd
            timer units that sometimes overlap in time, sometimes not (if a
            tuesday is also the 2nd of the month.. they do). is there a way to
            distribute recurring scheduled tasks over multiple systemd servers
            from a central definition, so that if one of the 3 servers is free
            and the timer is due it can pick up the job and the others
            don't
           
         
        
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          93 [01:35:09] <maroloccio> Basically if timers were due
            centrally and distributed to any systemd server available to pick up
            a job, I would never risk running two heavy jobs on the same server
            as running one would leave room for others to pick up the second and
            "help out"
           
         
        
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          96 [01:38:27] <bone-baboon> sney: could you point me to some
            resources that I could look at for this?
           
         
        
          97 [01:38:58] <sney> bone-baboon: start at
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          98 [01:39:13] <sney> there are also sometimes hints within the
            source itself.
           
         
        
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          102 [01:42:44] <bone-baboon> sney: thanks when I use the search
            that documentation site provides and search for curor_blink there
            are no results.
           
         
        
          103 [01:44:05] <sney> bone-baboon: you might have to be a little
            more fuzzy with your search, since things are not always named just
            1 way. But in any case, those are the pointers I have for you, and I
            have no more follow-up information, so if you have more questions
            you will have to keep reading.
           
         
        
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          105 [01:45:25] <bone-baboon> sney: thanks
           
         
        
          106 [01:45:30] <sney> np  
         
        
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          118 [02:02:37] <ratrace> sney: bone-baboon: note that the link is
            for v4.14 . params (may) have changed since.
           
         
        
          119 [02:03:34] <ratrace> see this:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          131 [02:13:27] <johnfg> I may have been a bit hasty in saying
            that my problem with getting syncthing to start automatically with
            systemd was solved.
           
         
        
          132 [02:13:36] <johnfg> It's weird. After a reboot, got the
            same message from journalctl -u syncthing@johnfg.service that the
            service wouldn't start. I brought up syncthing-gtk, and it
            started the daemon. I quit syncthing-gtk, stopped the daemon, then
            systemctl started the service fine!
           
         
        
          133 [02:14:17] <johnfg> If you had a chance to look at the
            .service file that I posted, is there any change in it that
            you'd suggest?
           
         
        
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          135 [02:16:32] <johnfg> Here it is again, if you get a chance to
            take a look at it.
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          136 [02:16:54] <jmcnaught> johnfg: what is in the logs?
            "journalctl -b -u syncthing@johnfg"
           
         
        
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          139 [02:18:23] <johnfg> jmcnaught: I'll repost that too.
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          141 [02:18:44] <johnfg> You can see here how it didn't work,
            then I did what I said. Then it worked.
           
         
        
          142 [02:18:53] <johnfg> Oh, I didn't use -b for this.
           
         
        
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          145 [02:20:06] <ectospasm> -b without a parameter means current
            boot
           
         
        
          146 [02:20:10] <ectospasm> It's equivalent to -b 0
           
         
        
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          149 [02:20:28] <ectospasm> `journalctl -b 0 -u <service>`
           
         
        
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          154 [02:23:17] <jmcnaught> johnfg: is there any reason that
            johnfg's $HOME would be inaccessible during boot?
           
         
        
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          158 [02:25:55] <johnfg> jmcnaught: Not really, although it is its
            own partition: /dev/vg1/home, and root is: /dev/vg1/root; var is:
            /dev/vg0/lvol3
           
         
        
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          160 [02:27:05] <johnfg>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          161 [02:27:45] <johnfg> boot is on /dev/sda5
           
         
        
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          164 [02:28:01] <johnfg> Does any of that look like a problem?
           
         
        
          165 [02:29:03] <jmcnaught> johnfg: is johnfg the literal username
            or are you doing search/replace?
           
         
        
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          167 [02:34:03] <johnfg> jmcnaught: That's literally the
            username in that .service file. The way you're supposed to do
            it, if I understand correctly.
           
         
        
          168 [02:34:15] <johnfg> How do you read it?
           
         
        
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          170 [02:35:47] <wintersky> ok, preferred way to make a windows
            boot stick?
           
         
        
          171 [02:39:01] <somiaj> wintersky: ask in ##windows
           
         
        
          172 [02:39:16] <wintersky> i need a tool for debian
           
         
        
          173 [02:39:30] <shallowoods> wintersky: use gnome-disks?
           
         
        
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          175 [02:40:28] <wintersky> what should i do in it?
           
         
        
          176 [02:42:59] <shallowoods> wintersky: mount the usb, format as
            NTFS with MBR box checked. mount your windows disk or iso and copy
            everything to the forated USB. then boot it
           
         
        
          177 [02:43:43] <cws> I am 99% sure that that will not be
            bootable.
           
         
        
          178 [02:45:38] <wintersky> shallowoods: thank you
           
         
        
          179 [02:47:33] <shallowoods> cws: as long as you set it as MBR /
            DOS, you can do it in gparted if you prefer. and have normal
            comercial disk or image and copy everything it should be fine
           
         
        
          180 [02:47:46] <wintersky> shallowoods: there is no mbr checkbox
            in gnome-disks
           
         
        
          181 [02:48:20] <cws> If you set it as MBR, the system is
            expecting to find bootcode, and just copying files onto an NTFS
            volume does not create bootcode.
           
         
        
          182 [02:48:34] <cws> And it certainly won't be bootable via
            UEFI.
           
         
        
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          184 [02:49:59] <shallowoods> cws: oh now you make me wanna try
            the advice i found in the very first search result ;-)
           
         
        
          185 [02:50:42] <cws> wintersky:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          186 [02:50:53] <cws> wintersky: That will properly build a
            bootable USB device from a Windows ISO.
           
         
        
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          188 [02:51:19] <shallowoods> wintersky: listen to cws. their
            kung-foo is stronger
           
         
        
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          193 [03:00:28] <shallowoods> neat there's actually a
            bootmgr.bin and bootmgr.efi in the iso
           
         
        
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          196 [03:04:23] <wintersky> shallowoods, cws yeah woeusb is
            present in pip3, using it right now,m we'll see hwether the
            system nboots
           
         
        
          197 [03:04:51] <cws> woeusb-ng != woeusb. woeusb-ng is far more
            up to date and works far better.
           
         
        
          198 [03:05:05] <cws> Unless woeusb is also in pip, in which case,
            cool.
           
         
        
          199 [03:05:06] <wintersky> yeah, woeusb-ng, that's what i
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          200 [03:05:14] <cws> Oh, hey, didn't know that was there.
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          231 [03:16:27] <wintersky> eh my boot disks don't boot on
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          237 [03:20:51] <somiaj> wintersky: again this is better asked in
            ##windows
           
         
        
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          300 [04:09:20] <johnfg> I was away teaching a class. Any thoughts
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          351 [06:04:56] <inode33> It seems my nvidia problem was an X
            problem. I just have to specify the device and the driver and
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          375 [06:54:34] <bejelentkezni> Hi. I'm trying to install
            Debian on a mid-2011 macbook air to extend its useful life. Now I
            don't have an ethernet dongle and macbooks don't have
            ethernet ports, so the installation must be done over wifi. the wifi
            situation is being a real pain, the chip is a
           
         
        
          376 [06:54:35] <bejelentkezni> bcm43224 the drivers for which are
            blobs that must be run at userspace. not a huge deal, just means
            that I can only use wifi from a live desktop environment, no cheeky
            firmware package sideloading allowed. problem is I really like using
            the advanced installer since it makes a few small things like
            remembering to add the main user to the wheel group and setting up
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          377 [06:54:35] <bejelentkezni> the advanced installer (graphical
            or text mode) from any of the live nonfree ISOs? I can't find
            anything in the manual or Google or from just checking several ISOs
            for the past hour or so. Ultimately just using the default installer
            and doing the rest manually would probably have saved me time by now
            but now I just gotta know. Can the advanced installer be run from
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          462 [08:32:42] <avernos> how can i prevent my wireless interface
            to be used automatically? i´ve tried setting up static conf in
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          464 [08:35:34] <x10d> avernos: stop using NetworkManager
           
         
        
          465 [08:36:03] <avernos> x10d, im not, headless. dont have NM
           
         
        
          466 [08:36:47] <avernos> i have hostapd, but wpa supplicant or
            something else i cannot find in logs, kills hostapd and use the
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          470 [08:44:49] <somiaj> wpasupplicant in roam moade will do that,
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          490 [09:07:04] <TheBigK02> why would u not have wireless adapter
            on at all times... network-manager does a decent job with metrics so
            when ur wired in... u use wired ... and u are not... u switch to
            wireless... i actually enjoy that
           
         
        
          491 [09:07:30] <TheBigK02> i mean. yeah in terms of tracking its
            probably bad... but then u just turn of wireless in the
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          537 [10:08:38] <inode33> TheBigK02: Linux has had MAC address
            privacy for some time now (think macOS)
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          641 [13:00:23] <badsektor> i had a riot-im.list in my
            /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ i think i must have installed
            element-desktop, anyway apt update gave me an error because of
            outdated key for riot.im, i don't use element-desktop anyway so
            i apt removed it
           
         
        
          642 [13:00:39] <badsektor> but the file in
            /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ remained. i removed it manually. is that
            alright?
           
         
        
          643 [13:01:06] <tarzeau_> badsektor: perfect!
           
         
        
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          687 [13:59:20] <MaxFrames> hi  
         
        
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          690 [14:00:56] <MaxFrames> I have a debian buster virtual machine
            that hasn't been updated in a while. this machine's
            critical (particularly, it runs an openvpn server that is critical).
            should I "apt-get upgrade" or should I "apt-get
            dist-upgrade"?
           
         
        
          691 [14:01:33] <MaxFrames> it is important to patch it as there
            are multiple security patches available, but at the same time I need
            to not break openvpn and in general not break stuff
           
         
        
          692 [14:01:34] <apollo13> can't be that critical if it is
            just one machine
           
         
        
          693 [14:01:45] <MaxFrames> critical to me at least...
           
         
        
          694 [14:01:45] <apollo13> then you should work on a failover
            concept
           
         
        
          695 [14:02:12] <apollo13> well you need to reboot at
            least… and if that breaks be prepared to fix it
           
         
        
          696 [14:02:27] <apollo13> chances are if it hasn't been
            rebooted for a while that funny stuff happens :D
           
         
        
          697 [14:02:48] <jelly-home> MaxFrames, update, full-upgrade /
            dist-upgrade, reboot, hope for the best
           
         
        
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          699 [14:02:59] <MaxFrames> I use it to remote from home and
            access the office lan; I will patch the machine while I'm at
            the office anyway
           
         
        
          700 [14:03:18] <apollo13> well when you are at the office there
            isn't much to worry then
           
         
        
          701 [14:03:29] <apollo13> in the worst case you'll have to
            reinstall it
           
         
        
          702 [14:03:33] <apollo13> but probably not coming to that
           
         
        
          703 [14:03:36] <jelly-home> in general things aren't
            supposed to break with security and point release patches, but
            sometimes there are regressions
           
         
        
          704 [14:03:43] <MaxFrames> not even that, because I have weekly
            Veeam backups
           
         
        
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          706 [14:03:52] <apollo13> well then…
           
         
        
          707 [14:04:04] <MaxFrames> question: full-upgrade or
            dist-upgrade?
           
         
        
          708 [14:04:17] <apollo13> I wouldn't know what the diff is
           
         
        
          709 [14:04:24] <jelly-home> if it's a VM and you have remote
            console access (that doesn't go over that same openvpn :-) then
            you're safe to patch it remotely
           
         
        
          710 [14:04:49] <jelly-home> !full-upgrade
           
         
        
          711 [14:04:49] <dpkg> full-upgrade is the new name for
            "dist-upgrade" in aptitude from Lenny onwards. Remember
            that "dist-upgrade" is not about moving from one release
            to another but installing new packages (ask me about
            <dist-upgrade>); read man apt-get carefully. Some security
            fixes will require a "full-upgrade" not just a
            "safe-upgrade" to apply. Ask me about <why not dist
            upgrade> <dist-upgrade> <safe-upgrade>
            <apt-listchanges>
           
         
        
          712 [14:05:27] <jelly-home> and if it's a VM you can
            probably take a snapsnot and revert to that if everything breaks
           
         
        
          713 [14:05:30] <MaxFrames> ok  
         
        
          714 [14:05:55] <jelly-home> at work, we always take snapshots
            before patching
           
         
        
          715 [14:06:37] <MaxFrames> other question: I usually used
            apt-get; should I use aptitude instead? and can I use one when
            I've used the other one in the past? or do I need to stick to
            what I used before?
           
         
        
          716 [14:06:58] <MaxFrames> I *think* I've patched this
            machine in the past using apt-get
           
         
        
          717 [14:07:14] <apollo13> jelly-home: wise choice, though I am
            working on simply replacing machines instead of updating.
           
         
        
          718 [14:07:42] <MaxFrames> the reason it's so behind with
            patches is that I thought I had set upp unattended-upgrades, but
            apparently I didn't (I just checked and it seems to be
            unconfigured)
           
         
        
          719 [14:08:01] <apollo13> personally I think unattented-upgrades
            are very dangerous
           
         
        
          720 [14:08:27] <MaxFrames> or at least I have nothing in
            /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades
           
         
        
          721 [14:08:38] <jelly-home> MaxFrames, it doesn't really
            matter whether you use apt, apt-get or aptitude for patching up, the
            differences in behaviour are subtle
           
         
        
          722 [14:09:03] <MaxFrames> so I can't bork stuff if I use a
            mix of the two over time?
           
         
        
          723 [14:09:18] <jelly-home> if unsure, use apt for interactive
            stuff, or whatever you're most comfrotable with
           
         
        
          724 [14:09:29] <MaxFrames> apt-get then  
         
        
          725 [14:09:30] <jelly-home> correct, no borkage
           
         
        
          726 [14:09:54] <jelly-home> but apt has a PROGRESS BAR :-D
           
         
        
          727 [14:10:07] <MaxFrames> wow :D  
         
        
          728 [14:10:51] <MaxFrames> being a windowshead, I always need
            some reacquanting when I need to touch the few debian stuff I have
           
         
        
          729 [14:10:52] <mspe> jelly-home: apt-get too
           
         
        
          730 [14:11:07] <jelly-home> not by default
           
         
        
          731 [14:11:07] <MaxFrames> I tend to forget how I did things :X
           
         
        
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          734 [14:12:40] <MaxFrames> this tiny system has become kind of
            big stuff when me and my colleagues were forced to remote working
            for part of the week due to covid. good thing I'd set it up
            already for my convenience
           
         
        
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          738 [14:14:02] <MaxFrames> and it does have some fault tolerance
            as it's hosted on a failover cluster
           
         
        
          739 [14:14:22] <MaxFrames> but if I bork it, I've borked it
            :D
           
         
        
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          741 [14:15:26] <MaxFrames> well thanks folks, next time I'm
            at the office I'll patch the thing
           
         
        
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          776 [15:01:17] <johnfg> If anyone has had the change to look at
            my paste of syncthing@johnfg.service, and see why it may not be
            starting at boot, but will afterwards, please let me know.
           
         
        
          777 [15:01:31] <johnfg> I'll be glad to repost.
           
         
        
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          780 [15:03:38] <johnfg> This is the paste of the initial
            failures, then the successful start:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          782 [15:05:18] <johnfg> And here is the .service file:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          787 [15:08:59] <jelly> johnfg, looks like was just dying too fast
            for systemd to figure out what's wrong with it... until it
            decided to work
           
         
        
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          789 [15:10:38] <johnfg> jelly: Yes. When it was started directly
            and running as a daemon, then stopped, the systemd script was able
            to start it up.
           
         
        
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          792 [15:11:05] <johnfg> jelly: Is there something to change in
            the script that you see?
           
         
        
          793 [15:11:49] <jelly> johnfg, no, not really. Was the user
            created recently?
           
         
        
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          796 [15:12:32] <johnfg> Nope.  
         
        
          797 [15:13:15] <johnfg> Is there something or someway to make
            syncthing@johnfg.service start later in the boot process?
           
         
        
          798 [15:13:32] <jelly> should that User=%i perhaps be User=%u ?
           
         
        
          799 [15:14:10] <johnfg> jelly: No idea. The script was done
            either by debian or by syncthing as part of the pkg.
           
         
        
          800 [15:14:36] <johnfg> What would that change accomplish?
           
         
        
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          802 [15:14:40] <jelly> I'll assume the packager knew what
            they were doing
           
         
        
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          804 [15:15:07] <jelly> johnfg, I'm just reading man
            systemd.unit and trying to figure out what %i is supposed to do
           
         
        
          805 [15:15:15] <johnfg> jelly: Right. I did email them and ask to
            upgrade. the deb version is way behind.
           
         
        
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          807 [15:17:00] <johnfg> It's in my openvpn@client.service as
            well I see, i.e., the %i.
           
         
        
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          825 [15:25:19] <TheBigK02> johnfg: u could try to delay the start
            by adding an AFTER to the systemd.service ... but u shouldnt edit
            the service file itself. i did that by doing an adjustment for
            icinga for example:
           
         
        
          826 [15:25:48] <TheBigK02>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          828 [15:27:34] <TheBigK02> johnfg: does that syncthing have its
            own logfile? that might be helpful otherwise
           
         
        
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          834 [15:30:39] <hansol> heho guys  
         
        
          835 [15:30:43] <hansol> i dont have command mkfs ?
           
         
        
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          842 [15:33:04] <TheBigK02> hansol: which filesystem do u want to
            create?
           
         
        
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          844 [15:33:16] <hansol> TheBigK02 let's say ext4
           
         
        
          845 [15:33:22] <TheBigK02> but /sbin/mkfs is part of util-linux
            package
           
         
        
          846 [15:33:47] <TheBigK02> for mkfs.ext4 u need e2fsprogs
           
         
        
          847 [15:33:52] <jelly> !buster su  
         
        
          848 [15:33:52] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by
            default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su
            -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at
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          849 [15:34:05] <hansol> i have this: mkfs command not found
           
         
        
          850 [15:34:06] <jelly> hansol, how are you becoming root
           
         
        
          851 [15:34:25] <TheBigK02> is /sbin in ur $PATH variable? just
            echo it
           
         
        
          852 [15:34:39] <TheBigK02> the different PATHS are seperated with
            :
           
         
        
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          855 [15:36:46] <hansol> im trying to insert this command: sudo
            mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sda/fd0
           
         
        
          856 [15:37:00] <hansol> i have fd0 not a directory
           
         
        
          857 [15:37:18] <jelly> hansol, which debian release is this?
           
         
        
          858 [15:37:22] <TheBigK02> u mean /dev/fd0 then?
           
         
        
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          861 [15:37:43] <jelly> hansol, show the output of: ls -ld
            /sbin/mkfs
           
         
        
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          863 [15:38:08] <hansol> TheBigK02 u correct
           
         
        
          864 [15:38:18] <hansol> how to specidied a size for partition ?
           
         
        
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          866 [15:38:37] <TheBigK02> u use tools like cfdisk fdisk or
            something similar
           
         
        
          867 [15:38:43] <jelly> you don't want to waste space on a
            floppy on partitions
           
         
        
          868 [15:38:58] <johnfg> TheBigK02: I'll check about the
            logging. If you didn't put the AFTER in the .service file,
            where would you put it?
           
         
        
          869 [15:39:01] <jelly> use the whole device
           
         
        
          870 [15:39:39] <TheBigK02> johnfg: its in the Unit section
           
         
        
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          873 [15:40:59] <hansol> sudo mkfs -t ext2 -s 1024 /dev/fd0
           
         
        
          874 [15:41:48] <hansol> Device size is reported to 0
           
         
        
          875 [15:42:04] <hansol> Invalid partition specified
           
         
        
          876 [15:42:34] <TheBigK02> hansol: what kind of hardware ur
            rocking that u still use a floppy drive :D
           
         
        
          877 [15:42:52] <hansol> nnoonon  
         
        
          878 [15:42:56] <hansol> u mean i dont need mkfs ?
           
         
        
          879 [15:43:08] <hansol> just fdsik ?  
         
        
          880 [15:43:24] <TheBigK02> nah, for a floppy jelly is right. just
            do the mkfs on the device
           
         
        
          881 [15:43:30] <TheBigK02> a partition table is a waste of space
           
         
        
          882 [15:43:52] <hansol> what mean mkfs on the device ?
           
         
        
          883 [15:44:06] <TheBigK02> mkfs.ext2 /dev/fd0
           
         
        
          884 [15:45:07] <hansol> ok i insert that command
           
         
        
          885 [15:45:29] <hansol> but i have: Device size i 0 , Invalid
            partiton specified
           
         
        
          886 [15:45:41] <hansol> or wasnt releated by fdisk
           
         
        
          887 [15:45:47] <TheBigK02> does the drive light up atleast?
           
         
        
          888 [15:46:06] <hansol> you may need to reboot to re-load your
            partiton
           
         
        
          889 [15:46:28] <hansol> i need to rboot ?
           
         
        
          890 [15:46:39] <TheBigK02> u could do partprobe ... but i would
            assume thats not the issue. what kind of debian ur running on which
            type of hardware
           
         
        
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          893 [15:47:07] <hansol> TheBigK02 ITs on VM
           
         
        
          894 [15:47:10] <hansol> the last version of debian
           
         
        
          895 [15:47:26] <TheBigK02> what do u actually want to do in that
            VM
           
         
        
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          897 [15:47:41] <hansol> no, im trying to learn about that command
           
         
        
          898 [15:48:03] <TheBigK02> since everything is a file in linux. u
            can create a filesystem inside a file
           
         
        
          899 [15:48:31] <hansol> you mean i create one file and give
            mkfs.ext2 /path/to/file ?
           
         
        
          900 [15:48:36] <TheBigK02> first u need an empty file. u can do
            by dd if=/dev/zero bs=100M count=10 of=test.img
           
         
        
          901 [15:48:47] <TheBigK02> that creates a 1 gig file in or
            current directory
           
         
        
          902 [15:48:55] <TheBigK02> on that file u can do a mkfs.ext2
            test.img
           
         
        
          903 [15:49:12] <TheBigK02> then u can mount that file to a temp
            directory...
           
         
        
          904 [15:49:20] <hansol> ok let me try :>
           
         
        
          905 [15:49:35] <hansol> so file will be in /dev/zero/test.img ?
           
         
        
          906 [15:49:40] <TheBigK02> no  
         
        
          907 [15:49:56] <TheBigK02> the output is the current directory
            test.img
           
         
        
          908 [15:51:00] <TheBigK02> /dev/zero is the source... and of is
            the destionation or output...
           
         
        
          909 [15:51:19] <hansol> so i can create the file, inside /home
            directory ?
           
         
        
          910 [15:51:26] <TheBigK02> ofc  
         
        
          911 [15:51:39] <TheBigK02> wherever ur heart desires and u have
            write permissions :)
           
         
        
          912 [15:51:57] <hansol> what about the command dd ?
           
         
        
          913 [15:52:05] <hansol> what it does  
         
        
          914 [15:52:23] <TheBigK02> it writes zeros in an output file
           
         
        
          915 [15:52:37] <TheBigK02> /dev/zero is device that just outputs
            zeros
           
         
        
          916 [15:53:50] <hansol> wiuth sudo or without ?
           
         
        
          917 [15:53:57] <hansol> ah without it works also
           
         
        
          918 [15:54:31] <TheBigK02> in that case it does, yes :)
           
         
        
          919 [15:54:54] <TheBigK02> its also more secure... since u cant
            break ur disk... and u can easily do with the wrong output ;)
           
         
        
          920 [15:55:01] <hansol> after mkfs -t ext2 test.img it told me
            that all is done
           
         
        
          921 [15:55:11] <TheBigK02> now u can mount it
           
         
        
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          925 [15:55:28] <hansol> mount test.img /dev/zero ?
           
         
        
          926 [15:55:32] <TheBigK02> no  
         
        
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          928 [15:55:47] <TheBigK02> sudo mount -o loop test.img /mnt
           
         
        
          929 [15:56:31] <TheBigK02> u can df -h to see if its correctly
            mounted. u should see a littel less than 1 gig of space there
           
         
        
          930 [15:56:42] <TheBigK02> for /mnt  
         
        
          931 [15:57:19] <hansol> its mounted  
         
        
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          933 [15:57:24] <hansol> now its in /mnt directory ?
           
         
        
          934 [15:57:56] <hansol> its not parttiion ? its just a file with
            filesystem ext2 right ?
           
         
        
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          936 [15:58:09] <TheBigK02> yes  
         
        
          937 [15:58:32] <TheBigK02> u can also write a partiton table to a
            file... for practicing prupose ... not a bad next test task :)
           
         
        
          938 [15:59:03] <TheBigK02> but mounting partitons of that file u
            need to actually point mount where the filesystem is
           
         
        
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          943 [15:59:56] <TheBigK02> for disks linux does the job for u.. u
            might be able to add a second virtual disk to ur VM to have a more
            real experience...
           
         
        
          944 [16:00:25] <Ede|Popede> file(1) gives a good hint where it
            starts
           
         
        
          945 [16:00:47] <TheBigK02> Ede|Popede: he means man 1 file
           
         
        
          946 [16:01:03] <TheBigK02> the man pages are a really good
            resource if u dont know what something does
           
         
        
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          948 [16:01:25] <Ede|Popede> actually i was just avoiding ``
            notation ;)
           
         
        
          949 [16:01:55] <TheBigK02> Ede|Popede: sorry. :)
           
         
        
          950 [16:02:35] <Ede|Popede> the sticks i collected over the years
            have turned out to have a nice range of layouts, though they all
            were formatted with a single FAT (exFAT i guess)
           
         
        
          951 [16:02:37] <hansol> TheBigK02 if count is 50 that would be a
            5 gb right ?
           
         
        
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          953 [16:03:08] <TheBigK02> absolutel  
         
        
          954 [16:03:10] <TheBigK02> absolutely  
         
        
          955 [16:03:33] <TheBigK02> u can also adjust the bs (blocksize)
            ... but be careful to have enough RAM available ;)
           
         
        
          956 [16:03:52] <TheBigK02> 1G would be a blocksize auf 1 gb...
            but man dd gives u same information ;)
           
         
        
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          958 [16:04:21] <hansol> sudo mount -o loop test.img /mnt -- what
            means /mnt ?
           
         
        
          959 [16:04:28] <hansol> direcetory at last?
           
         
        
          960 [16:05:05] <ksk> hansol: take a look at the
            "SNYOPSIS" part of "man mount" to get an answer
            to that.
           
         
        
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          962 [16:05:07] <hansol> i mean i can enter in /mnt, that means im
            inside the file ?
           
         
        
          963 [16:05:16] <TheBigK02> yes  
         
        
          964 [16:05:44] <ksk> hansol: it goes: "mount [-fnrsvw] [-t
            fstype] [-o options] device dir" (with some added formatting in
            man)
           
         
        
          965 [16:06:38] <ksk> I was inclined to expand on that, but eh,
            the manpage really does tell you anything you need to know..
           
         
        
          966 [16:06:52] <TheBigK02> :D  
         
        
          967 [16:07:00] <hansol> in teory yes  
         
        
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          975 [16:12:14] <hansol> what about sudo fsck /home/dir/test.img ?
           
         
        
          976 [16:12:23] <hansol> or sorry, sudo fsck /mnt
           
         
        
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          978 [16:13:18] <ksk> pardon? Did you try "man fsck" for
            starters?
           
         
        
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          980 [16:14:02] <ksk> hansol: its perfectly fine to be a
            Debian/Linux newbie, but then rather state questions in a
            non-techinal manner, like "I want to do XY, I tried Z, but
            instead of foo I got bar"
           
         
        
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          982 [16:14:28] <ksk> !smart questions  
         
        
          983 [16:14:28] <dpkg> Asking the right question can be hard, and
            effective communication is easier if you give us extra information.
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          984 [16:14:36] <superschnell> !errata  
         
        
          985 [16:14:36] <dpkg> Last minute notes regarding Debian 10
            ("Buster") are listed at
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          986 [16:15:49] <hansol> why i have command not found when typing
            a command fdsik ?
           
         
        
          987 [16:16:08] <ksk> !buster su  
         
        
          988 [16:16:08] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by
            default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su
            -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at
            all...). See
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          989 [16:16:33] <hansol> im inserting it with root
           
         
        
          990 [16:16:58] <superschnell> hansol: surely you mean fdisk
           
         
        
          991 [16:16:58] <ksk> You did not read what the bot said. Its
            about how you "got root".
           
         
        
          992 [16:17:16] <ksk> nah, fsck is a thing.
           
         
        
          993 [16:18:16] <superschnell> Might someone be willing to briefly
            explain to me what an "errata server" is? In what way does
            it differ from.. say.. a repository?
           
         
        
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          995 [16:18:45] <hansol> ksk use fsck not fdisk ?
           
         
        
          996 [16:18:47] <ksk> superschnell: its something that shows open
            (security) issues for every package there is.
           
         
        
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          998 [16:19:08] <ksk> or, maybe only for packages installed on
            your server, depending on setup etc
           
         
        
          999 [16:20:40] <ksk> superschnell: nothing to do with Debian in
            specific. More like "I want to know what version of foo I run
            (in company), and if there are any (outstanding, known) security
            bugs "
           
         
        
          1000 [16:20:55] <superschnell> ah ok  
         
        
          1001 [16:21:07] <ksk> hansol: You are not responding at all to any
            of my questions. I cannot help you this way.
           
         
        
          1002 [16:21:12] <ksk> What are you trying to do?
           
         
        
          1003 [16:21:19] <superschnell> hansol: /usr/sbin/fdisk
           
         
        
          1004 [16:21:27] <superschnell> Just guessing
           
         
        
          1005 [16:21:35] <superschnell> And please listen to ksk
           
         
        
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          1007 [16:24:33] <hansol> ok i enter to fdisk /home/dir/test.img
           
         
        
          1008 [16:24:42] <hansol> the typet g and w
           
         
        
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          1015 [16:37:33] <johnfg> TheBigK02: What would you put then for
            the AFTER in the Unit section?
           
         
        
          1016 [16:39:39] <johnfg> TheBigK02: You saw that Unit does have
            already, After=network.target?
           
         
        
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          1060 [17:44:52] <tosted> hi.. about handing wireless in debian...i
            have unstabel connection with irc servers and streaming.. i would to
            know how to make a clean connection without networkmanager in a wpa
            securated WIFILAN?
           
         
        
          1061 [17:45:16] <cws> tosted: What's wrong with using nm?
           
         
        
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          1063 [17:48:23] <sney> it is unlikely that n-m is the problem,
            it's just where you're seeing symptoms.
           
         
        
          1064 [17:48:35] <sney> wifi instability is much more likely to be
            rf or driver issues.
           
         
        
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          1069 [17:53:00] <tosted> would solve my connections errors?
           
         
        
          1070 [17:53:37] <sney> remove network-manager and install connman
            instead,
           
         
        
          1071 [17:53:41] <sney> but I doubt it will make a difference
           
         
        
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          1080 [17:58:33] <johnfg> It's in my openvpn@client.service as
            well I see, i.e., the %i./quit
           
         
        
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          1094 [18:13:59] <|\n> hi guys, having apt-build successfully
            finish with packages for native amd64, i would like to also build
            the i386 but i literally can't figure out how - any hints
            (approximate directions)?
           
         
        
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          1097 [18:16:04] <|\n> it's just the frustration comes from an
            apparently incorrect expectation of mine, that simply putting it as
            "deb [arch=amd64,i386 trusted=yes]
            file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main" makes
            `apt-build install something:i386` vial, magically heh
           
         
        
          1098 [18:16:12] <|\n> what am i doing wrong?
           
         
        
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          1101 [18:17:36] <|\n> what i face instead is already built variant
            for amd64 of the package (expected, native) but zero clues on how
            force it building i386 variant of it
           
         
        
          1102 [18:18:43] <|\n> additionally i still do see "N:
            Skipping acquire of configured file
            'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository
            'file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build InRelease'
            doesn't support architecture 'i386'" which
            indicates that i get it wrong
           
         
        
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          1104 [18:19:42] <imMute> |\n: does
            /var/cache/apt-build/repository/apt-build/Release have
            "Architectures: i386" in it? sounds like it doesn't.
           
         
        
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          1108 [18:20:17] <imMute> I think the [arch=amd64,i386] in the
            sources list only tells apt to use that repo for those 2 archs and
            ignore any other archs it might have
           
         
        
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          1112 [18:21:55] <|\n> imMute, no  
         
        
          1113 [18:21:59] <|\n> only amd64  
         
        
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          1116 [18:22:20] <imMute> that's why. the repo is saying it
            doesn't have any i386 packages, so apt doesn't look any
            further
           
         
        
          1117 [18:23:17] <|\n> apt-build operates with source packages on
            one hand and makes a cozy local repo on the other, what should we
            take care of in order to make it have the i386
           
         
        
          1118 [18:23:53] <imMute> I'm not familiar with apt-build
            unfortunately.
           
         
        
          1119 [18:24:10] <|\n> imMute, well in any case many thanks man
           
         
        
          1120 [18:24:38] <imMute> the manpage starts with "apt-build -
            Fetch sources and build packages optimized for your
            architecture." so just based on that I'm gonna guess it
            can only build native packages.
           
         
        
          1121 [18:26:19] <|\n> yeah i have the same feeling honestly but i
            must figure out if this is a common interpretation
           
         
        
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          1124 [18:29:40] <tosted> again down  
         
        
          1125 [18:29:44] <tosted> down againa  
         
        
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          1137 [18:42:25] <tosted> hard way howto link to connect debian 10
            through wifi?
           
         
        
          1138 [18:44:45] <|\n> tosted,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1157 [18:58:08] <Franciman> Hi  
         
        
          1158 [18:58:13] <Franciman> I installed npm from the repos
           
         
        
          1159 [18:58:15] <Franciman> and nodejs  
         
        
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          1161 [18:58:26] <Franciman> but npm says that nodejs is too old
           
         
        
          1162 [18:58:30] <Franciman> is it expected?
           
         
        
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          1167 [19:03:21] <crimsonhawk009> What is the results of npm -v and
            node -v
           
         
        
          1168 [19:03:57] <Franciman> node -v --> v10.24.0
           
         
        
          1169 [19:04:04] <Franciman> npm -v --> 5.8.0
           
         
        
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          1171 [19:04:22] <Franciman> If i run npm --help, I get
           
         
        
          1172 [19:04:24] <Franciman> pm WARN npm npm does not support
            Node.js v10.24.0
           
         
        
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          1174 [19:04:49] <Franciman> wait the complete warning is
           
         
        
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          1176 [19:05:05] <Franciman>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1178 [19:07:16] <sney> Franciman: that seems like a warning you
            could ignore, since 10 is higher than 9. try using it and see what
            happens.
           
         
        
          1179 [19:07:29] <Franciman> neat  
         
        
          1180 [19:07:31] <Franciman> thanks  
         
        
          1181 [19:07:56] <sney> otherwise, it looks like there's a
            newer npm in buster-backports that may not have that message
           
         
        
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          1186 [19:09:23] <tosted> irc debian log?  
         
        
          1187 [19:09:28] <sney> !irclogs  
         
        
          1188 [19:09:29] <dpkg> i guess irclog is #debian on
            <freenode> is logged at
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          1189 [19:10:03] <sney> tosted: if your wifi is dropping with
            different connection software, it's not a software problem.
           
         
        
          1190 [19:10:12] <sney> tosted: you likely have an issue with the
            signal, or the driver.
           
         
        
          1191 [19:10:29] <tosted> didnt change yet!
           
         
        
          1192 [19:10:34] <tosted> nm is on  
         
        
          1193 [19:10:57] <tosted> i was rebooting everything
           
         
        
          1194 [19:11:10] <sney> then try connman, or ifupdown. but I still
            think it will make no difference.
           
         
        
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          1196 [19:12:08] <tosted> ok..  
         
        
          1197 [19:12:10] <tosted> tks  
         
        
          1198 [19:13:22] <crimsonhawk009> Franciman: If you do not mind
            using other repos I have been using nodesource's for years
            without a problem.
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          1199 [19:14:23] <Franciman> thank crimsonhawk009
           
         
        
          1200 [19:15:10] <crimsonhawk009> Other bonus is then you can run
            active LTS
           
         
        
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          1240 [19:52:57] <kale> how can i find out which device this is:
            /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1
           
         
        
          1241 [19:53:13] <kale> i suspect it is my graphics card, but i am
            unsure
           
         
        
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          1243 [19:57:52] <imMute> kale:
            /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/device will be a symlink to the
            parent device
           
         
        
          1244 [19:57:59] <jelly> kale, see if there's a device symlink
            in that directory, and where it points to
           
         
        
          1245 [19:58:06] <jelly> ninja'd!  
         
        
          1246 [19:58:32] <kale> no device link  
         
        
          1247 [19:58:44] <jelly> what IS there then
           
         
        
          1248 [19:59:17] <jelly> pastebin ls -la
            /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/
           
         
        
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          1250 [20:00:23] <kale> bunch of files ... :-)
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1251 [20:01:16] <jelly> kale, cat
            /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/type says what
           
         
        
          1252 [20:01:19] <greycat> Hmm, "totalt"?
           
         
        
          1253 [20:01:30] <kale> x86_pkg_temp  
         
        
          1254 [20:01:46] <jelly> that sounds like the cpu package
           
         
        
          1255 [20:01:53] <kale> greycat: its in danish, sorry
           
         
        
          1256 [20:01:56] <jelly> grep .
            /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone*/type for more descriptions
           
         
        
          1257 [20:02:04] <greycat> that's fine, just hadn't seen
            that before
           
         
        
          1258 [20:02:14] <hansol> why mount -o loop text.img /pool/ is
            working but mount -o poll text.img /pool/ is not ?
           
         
        
          1259 [20:02:39] <kale> jelly: so basically the high temperature ig
            get on that sensor is my CPU going hot
           
         
        
          1260 [20:03:19] <kale> the other sensor is have is
            /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/type with content
            "acpitz"
           
         
        
          1261 [20:03:44] <jelly> my experience with hot cpus is you
            don't want to keep it running at 80-90C for months
           
         
        
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          1263 [20:04:34] <jelly> apparently they can become magically
            unstable then
           
         
        
          1264 [20:04:59] <kale> its at 66 degrees, at leaset the sensor is,
            but running sensors from lm-sensors gives me 59 for the hottest core
           
         
        
          1265 [20:06:35] <kale> can i do something to speed up the fan? is
            the some fan controlling software?
           
         
        
          1266 [20:07:00] <kale> heh, fancontrol  
         
        
          1267 [20:07:12] <jelly> I also learned to open the case and vacuum
            it every 3 months or so
           
         
        
          1268 [20:07:28] <jelly> after that the second cpu did not get
            unstable
           
         
        
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          1270 [20:07:56] <kale> i use my air compressor for that :-)
            actually on my other system i have a big heat sync, and i found that
            it had been running for years without the fan turning, with no
            problems at all
           
         
        
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          1272 [20:08:25] <jelly> but if someone wants to buy an i3-540 with
            a single core (it works fine if just one is used :-)
           
         
        
          1273 [20:08:28] <greycat> (heat sink)  
         
        
          1274 [20:08:52] <kale> greycat: heh sorry, need to check my
            spelling
           
         
        
          1275 [20:09:31] <kale> guess i need to replace the stock fan and
            heatsink
           
         
        
          1276 [20:09:53] <jelly> funny, a coworker asked about a "DNS
            sync hole" today
           
         
        
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          1279 [20:16:06] <kale> hmm... i'll check the BIOS setting,
            perhaps i can speed up the fan there
           
         
        
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          1295 [20:44:12] <hansol> losetup /dev/pool1 mountedimg i have
            this: No such file or directory
           
         
        
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          1325 [21:16:11] <Hash> Why do I use ubuntu?
           
         
        
          1326 [21:16:21] <Hash> Can someone please smack me across the
            head... *sigh*
           
         
        
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          1329 [21:18:57] <Druid> !insult Hash  
         
        
          1330 [21:18:58] <dpkg> Hash is nothing but an unintelligent mass
            of spongy dog vomit
           
         
        
          1331 [21:19:09] <Druid> !insult Hash  
         
        
          1332 [21:19:10] <dpkg> Hash is nothing but a villainous bucket of
            churlish gunk
           
         
        
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          1334 [21:20:07] <Druid> im on ubuntu though...
           
         
        
          1335 [21:20:13] <Druid> !insult Druid  
         
        
          1336 [21:20:14] <dpkg> Druid is nothing but a salty half-mouthful
            of inferior dog balls
           
         
        
          1337 [21:20:26] <jelly> !botabuse  
         
        
          1338 [21:20:26] <dpkg> lay off me you buggerererers!!11!
           
         
        
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          1340 [21:21:07] <Druid> !!111!oneone  
         
        
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          1343 [21:25:27] <Hash> :(  
         
        
          1344 [21:25:37] <Hash> jelly: come on help me
           
         
        
          1345 [21:25:58] <Hash> Goin on 20 years now, man. We've been
            at it together in this channel for 20 freakig years.
           
         
        
          1346 [21:26:05] <Hash> How time flies, eh?
           
         
        
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          1348 [21:27:46] <Hash> I thought analog mic woulud be easier to
            use than USB mic. Turns out, USB mic works 100% flawlessly 100% of
            the time but the analog mic that plugs into sound card who comes
            with this own phantom power supply for the studio mic... no sound
           
         
        
          1349 [21:28:12] <sney> usb interfaces are inconsistent in quality
           
         
        
          1350 [21:28:17] <Hash> I'm going to go do drugs now and
            forget about computers for a while.
           
         
        
          1351 [21:28:20] <Hash> :(  
         
        
          1352 [21:28:35] * Druid looks at nick  
         
        
          1353 [21:28:38] <Hash> I mean that's what I figured
           
         
        
          1354 [21:28:38] <sney> my focusrite one is pretty good, but it was
            also about $150
           
         
        
          1355 [21:28:54] <Hash> USB issues, analog should just be clean and
            nice, works on any machine.
           
         
        
          1356 [21:29:08] <Hash> Linux just won't pickup audio from it.
            Just static.
           
         
        
          1357 [21:29:16] <Hash> Driving me mental. Can't ask herec uz
            it's ubuntu
           
         
        
          1358 [21:29:18] <Hash> So nevermind  
         
        
          1359 [21:29:43] <Hash> I'm ust... just next time I think
            about using anything but debian, smack the bejeesus out of me
           
         
        
          1360 [21:29:45] <Hash> Thanks.  
         
        
          1361 [21:30:00] <sney> analog mic is just a few magnets and an XLR
            connector, much more likely to be the interface, yeah
           
         
        
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          1363 [21:30:35] <Hash> I mean it works sometimes. And mostly it
            doesn't. Yesterday I recorded sound. Today it picks up only
            static. No idea why. Anywya.
           
         
        
          1364 [21:30:41] <Hash> It's not a debian issue.
           
         
        
          1365 [21:30:56] <Hash> It's a Hash using a shit OS like
            Ubuntu issue.
           
         
        
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          1367 [21:31:01] <Hash> I'm an idiot. I hate myself.
           
         
        
          1368 [21:31:12] <sney> rip  
         
        
          1369 [21:31:27] <Hash> Thanks for letting me vent!
           
         
        
          1370 [21:31:32] <Hash> Peace out debianites.
           
         
        
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          1373 [21:33:53] <Hash> Druid: I play driud in diablo 2 :D
           
         
        
          1374 [21:34:06] <sney> !ot  
         
        
          1375 [21:34:07] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
            Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
            take longer discussions and non-support questions to
            #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
            people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
            minutes every day.
           
         
        
          1376 [21:34:09] <Hash> Druid: also
            psychedelics and  stoned
           
         
        
          1377 [21:34:16] <Hash> If you want.  
         
        
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          1401 [21:56:36] <dmt> rop  
         
        
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          1411 [22:12:22] <Hash> dmt...  
         
        
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