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• 1[00:00:17] <petn-randall> Deano59: This sounds more like a catch-all bug report; network-manager-openvpn works fine for me and correctly set routes.
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• 3[00:01:05] <Deano59> it doesn't here and idk why petn-randall
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• 6[00:02:07] <Deano59> brb
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• 10[00:02:31] <annadane> perl is probably *not* a good first language
• 11[00:02:40] <annadane> but yes, worthy of study in general
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• 15[00:03:30] <efloid> IanJ: I thought Julia was the new cool thing ;-)
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• 17[00:04:42] <efloid> just read this: replaced-url
• 18[00:06:40] <miskatonic> Julia is great for scientific computing but not for system administration script or the configuration/ extension of most kinds of apps
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• 20[00:07:04] <IanJ> efloid: never heard of her :P
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• 22[00:08:06] <IanJ> Perl was my first programming language and to be honest there's none that I've struggled to get to grips with as many of the constructs are shared between a lot of languages.
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• 24[00:08:11] <miskatonic> that's the family name of a mathematician of a century or so ago, not a woman. There is the infamous Julia set in fractal theory.
• 25[00:09:31] <petn-randall> IanJ: The problem with Perl as your first language is that Perl is quite ... special in many things. Which might make learning other languages make you wonder sometimes.
• 26[00:09:36] * petn-randall has started off with Perl.
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• 29[00:11:24] <Deano59> petn-randall: removed and re-installed and still doesn't add the correct route(s). tcp and udp. bash openvpn --config works.
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• 31[00:12:03] <Deano59> I also couldn't set anything until I installed openvpn-gnome too.
• 32[00:12:10] <Deano59> what am I doing wrong? XD
• 33[00:12:22] <petn-randall> Deano59: How did you configure it in nm-openvpn? Most likely there's a difference in config.
• 34[00:12:34] <Deano59> config is the same.
• 35[00:12:40] <IanJ> petn-randall: it has it's quirks but so does everything. :)
• 36[00:12:45] <petn-randall> Deano59: How are you ensuring they are the same?
• 37[00:12:54] <Deano59> same config I use bro.
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• 39[00:13:22] <Deano59> import > import saved openvpn config. it's the same config I run from bash.
• 40[00:13:32] <Deano59> bash works, nm does NOT.
• 41[00:13:47] <petn-randall> Deano59: It's quite possible it doesn't set it all. Verify the settings by hand.
• 42[00:13:54] <Deano59> I did... lol
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• 44[00:14:43] <Deano59> settings are EXACTLY the same.
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• 46[00:14:45] <petn-randall> Deano59: What happens when you enable your config with nm? You can see the output in /var/log/syslog.
• 47[00:15:10] <Deano59> it doesn't output the vpn IP with "curl icanhazip.com" it outputs my isp IP.
• 48[00:15:33] <petn-randall> Well, check the logs. It's likely it didn't even connect.
• 49[00:15:48] <Deano59> it states it connects fine.
• 50[00:15:50] <petn-randall> Deano59: Also, on what Os release is this?
• 51[00:15:55] <Deano59> 0s?
• 52[00:15:57] <petn-randall> *OS
• 53[00:16:02] <Deano59> buster 10.4
• 54[00:16:15] <petn-randall> You can share the logs on replaced-url
• 55[00:17:38] <Deano59> 413 Request Entity Too Large lmao
• 56[00:18:04] <petn-randall> Deano59: Wait, it's /var/log/daemon.log.
• 57[00:18:18] <petn-randall> Deano59: Yeah, don't just post your complete logs, just those after you connect.
• 58[00:20:23] <Deano59> May 29 21:23:49 Ryzen-MS-7C52 nm-openvpn[704]: chroot to '/var/lib/openvpn/chroot' and cd to '/' succeeded
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• 61[00:21:23] <Deano59> says this too petn-randall May 29 23:05:46 Ryzen-MS-7C52 NetworkManager[1688]: Too few arguments.
• 62[00:21:41] <petn-randall> Deano59: I don't quite understand why you're posting single lines into the chat.
• 63[00:21:55] <Deano59> because I don't see errors?
• 64[00:22:13] <Deano59> see above.
• 65[00:22:15] <petn-randall> Can you share the complete logs from nm with us? That'll help us debug the issue better.
• 66[00:22:33] <Deano59> petn-randall: where to find nm logs?
• 67[00:22:45] <petn-randall> Deano59: Again, /var/log/daemon.log.
• 68[00:22:58] <Deano59> sigh, it's too bit
• 69[00:23:01] <Deano59> big*
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• 71[00:24:04] <Deano59> replaced-url
• 72[00:24:14] <Deano59> sudo journalctl -u NetworkManager
• 73[00:25:01] <petn-randall> Deano59: I don't see any logs of you connecting via openvpn.
• 74[00:26:19] <petn-randall> Deano59: If you want to use journalctl, fine by me. I'd run `journalctl -u NetworkManager -f`, hit enter a few times to create some space, then enable the openvpn config to generate logs. Copy all lines between the space and the end.
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• 76[00:26:46] <Deano59> I'm connected now
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• 78[00:27:51] <Deano59> petn-randall: replaced-url
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• 81[00:29:08] <Deano59> it's connected, internet loading is taking forever and curl icanhazip.com shows my isp IP.
• 82[00:29:20] <Deano59> petn-randall: ^
• 83[00:29:55] <petn-randall> Deano59: Are you sure that's your full output? "Activation: successful, device activated." is what I get in the end, after ~50 lines of output.
• 84[00:30:31] <Deano59> that's the output from your commmand..
• 85[00:31:33] <petn-randall> Deano59: Just to make sure: You ran the command, and then *started* the openvpn config from network-manager, right?
• 86[00:31:53] <Deano59> yes.
• 87[00:32:04] <Deano59> should I disconnect and do it again?
• 88[00:32:10] <petn-randall> yes please
• 89[00:32:21] <Deano59> disconnected now. let me re-run it.
• 90[00:32:28] <Deano59> wait...
• 91[00:32:39] <Deano59> connect NOW *then* re-run the command?
• 92[00:33:02] <Deano59> petn-randall: ^
• 93[00:33:09] <Deano59> idk if you're getting these
• 94[00:33:20] <petn-randall> No, run the command, *then* connect.
• 95[00:33:37] <petn-randall> Otherwise you'll only get the last ~10 lines of the logs.
• 96[00:33:52] <Deano59> run journalctl -u NetworkManager -f?
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• 98[00:33:58] <petn-randall> yes
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• 100[00:34:21] <petn-randall> Run that, hit a few times enter, then connect via network-manager.
• 101[00:34:21] <Deano59> gotcha. sec.
• 102[00:34:45] <petn-randall> So you know which lines are new (you'll see the gap in the lines).
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• 105[00:34:51] <Deano59> replaced-url
• 106[00:35:12] <petn-randall> Deano59: Nice! That's much better. We're getting closer to the problem.
• 107[00:35:12] <Deano59> that's it ^ petn-randall
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• 111[00:36:15] <Deano59> what does that log tell you? it means nothing to me... xD
• 112[00:36:57] <petn-randall> Deano59: Can you share the output of `ip route` while you're still connected?
• 113[00:37:29] <Deano59> replaced-url
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• 115[00:39:03] <Deano59> any idea what's going on petn-randall ?
• 116[00:39:28] <petn-randall> Deano59: just a sec
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• 118[00:41:02] <Deano59> okay...
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• 120[00:41:41] <petn-randall> Deano59: What does `ping 172.21.24.1` output?
• 121[00:42:00] <petn-randall> Deano59: I suspect the default route is not being set properly, I'm trying to verify this.
• 122[00:42:01] <Deano59> pings fine.
• 123[00:42:50] <Deano59> 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 2ms
• 124[00:42:57] <Deano59> yeah ping is fine.
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• 126[00:43:31] <petn-randall> Deano59: Ok, then the openvpn connection at least works.
• 127[00:43:43] <Deano59> yeah just no proper route
• 128[00:43:52] <Deano59> bash works though. xD
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• 132[00:45:11] <petn-randall> Deano59: Ok, we might be able to check my theory. "ip route del default via 192.168.1.1" will delete the default route via your Ethernet interface, forcing everything through the openvpn. If you're cut off from the internet, simply unplug and replug the Ethernet to get back on.
• 133[00:45:39] <petn-randall> Deano59: Let me know if your curl command shows the vpn ip address after running said command.
• 134[00:45:46] <Deano59> sec
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• 137[00:46:33] <Deano59> nope still shows my isp ip
• 138[00:46:40] <Deano59> internet is working
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• 140[00:47:44] <Deano59> petn-randall: doesn't do anything my dude.
• 141[00:48:33] <petn-randall> Deano59: Run `ip route del default via 192.168.1.1` again and share `ip route` with me again. There are two routes that match that IP.
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• 144[00:49:40] <Deano59> petn-randall: replaced-url
• 145[00:51:24] <petn-randall> Deano59: Did you get an error of any kind? Those deleted routes are there again.
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• 147[00:51:34] <Deano59> nope no error(s)
• 148[00:51:51] <Deano59> I'm running as root if that matters?
• 149[00:52:06] <petn-randall> Yeah, that only works as root.
• 150[00:52:12] <Deano59> RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted
• 151[00:52:34] <Deano59> firewall problem?
• 152[00:52:40] <petn-randall> Deano59: When do you get that?
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• 154[00:52:52] <nvz> when running it as a normal user
• 155[00:52:57] <Deano59> when running as a normal user, the command above.
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• 158[00:53:59] <Deano59> bash: route: command not found
• 159[00:54:04] <Deano59> via normal user. ??
• 160[00:54:14] <abrotman> try /sbin/route
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• 162[00:54:46] <Deano59> oh
• 163[00:54:47] <Deano59> :P
• 164[00:55:04] <Deano59> yeah idk what's going on
• 165[00:55:05] <nvz> Deano59: how are you becomming root?
• 166[00:55:08] <Deano59> sudo -i
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• 168[00:55:50] <Deano59> su - does the same too
• 169[00:55:56] <nvz> and /sbin/ isn't in your PATH?
• 170[00:56:03] <petn-randall> Note that the command is "ip", not "route". "route" is one of the parameters.
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• 172[00:56:12] <Deano59> it IS but not as normal user nvz
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• 174[00:56:21] <nvz> right, its not suppose to be
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• 176[00:56:45] <petn-randall> We're sidetracking here, Deano59 should be running it as root, anyway.
• 177[00:56:48] <Deano59> petn-randall: ip route del default via 192.168.1.1 is what I ran.
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• 180[00:57:16] <Deano59> AND still shows isp ip
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• 182[00:57:43] <Deano59> the del command doesnt do anything?
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• 184[00:58:16] <nvz> when I do it, it disconnects me because I no longer have a default route to anywhere
• 185[00:58:31] <Deano59> not here it doesn't xD
• 186[00:58:33] <nvz> apparently yours is not removing the route
• 187[00:59:08] <nvz> unless you use DHCP and your least time is REALLY short
• 188[00:59:10] <Deano59> I removed libreoffice, firefox etc apps I'm not using; could that be iit?
• 189[00:59:12] <nvz> and its putting it back
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• 192[00:59:44] <nvz> personally I'd consider checking the log to see whats going on
• 193[01:00:12] <Deano59> I did and can't see anything
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• 195[01:01:19] <nvz> that sort of stuff would likely be in /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log
• 196[01:01:30] <Deano59> ...
• 197[01:01:33] <Deano59> I looked...
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• 199[01:02:05] <Deano59> be back later, this is doing my head in.
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• 202[01:03:31] <nvz> heh
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• 204[01:03:48] <nvz> if you're doing it all with network-manager there should be output from that in the daemon.log
• 205[01:04:24] <nvz> and anything else that could be running that could be putting the route back
• 206[01:05:11] <petn-randall> nvz: I'm guessing they're quite new to Linux in general, they had issues sharing the correct logs.
• 207[01:05:18] <petn-randall> (it took a few attempts)
• 208[01:07:04] <nvz> yeah idk.. I havent done openvpn in a long time but it seems odd to me there are double entries in that route table for the ethernet interface like its bonding two ips or something
• 209[01:07:37] <nvz> which I thought when you do crap like that it shows them as two seperate IFs
• 210[01:07:54] <nvz> but it shows the SAME if with two different IPv4 addresses
• 211[01:07:58] <nvz> and two default routes
• 212[01:07:59] <expon> does debian still ship rsyslog or similar by default?
• 213[01:08:06] <expon> i ask because journalctl would be the 'modern'ish way to grab logs
• 214[01:08:52] <nvz> expon: replaced-url
• 215[01:09:01] <expon> anyhow it sounds like redirect-gateway def1 might have been what hte user wanted
• 216[01:09:05] <expon> but i'll see if they're back later :)
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• 218[01:09:22] <petn-randall> expon: Yes, rsyslog is still there on a default installation, journald is not persistent.
• 219[01:09:40] <expon> petn-randall: roger, been a while since i did anything but debootstrap
• 220[01:09:46] <expon> and, nvz that's very useful, thanks
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• 222[01:12:01] <nvz> I still haven't really learned journald and still use the log files for most things.. except we no longer have /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh running and creating /var/log/dmesg so you gotta journalctl -k for that
• 223[01:12:37] <expon> personally i can't get enough of it, trawling through logfiles was never fun at the best of times, and i'm old now so it's 0 fun anymore!
• 224[01:12:38] <rjcarr> I’m trying to do a recursive rsync with specific permissions on the destination and it will work for the directory in the root but not apply to any of the created files and directories that are recursively created. Is this expected? My options are: -zrltvh --perms --chmod=D2775,F664
• 225[01:12:45] <nvz> those binary logs might be better in some ways but I find for my day to day needs the old fashioned way is much simpler :P
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• 227[01:13:18] <expon> nvz: honestly once you learn a couple of invocations it becomes second nature i think
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• 229[01:13:58] <nvz> hey you kids, RTFM :D
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• 231[01:15:14] <nvz> only real tricks I learned was -k for the boot messages that used to be in /var/log/dmesg and it tells you at times to -xe which idk what /exactly/ it does but it seems to spot the obvious errors :P
• 232[01:15:21] <expon> rjcarr: that does look to be correct, but it might not do exactly what you expect
• 233[01:15:28] <expon> rjcarr: when you say "doesn't apply", what happens?
• 234[01:15:42] <expon> (it uses the chmod you define as acceptance mask for the source file permissions)
• 235[01:15:52] <nvz> and without arguments you just get a log that is ridiculously large and has everything all mixed in together
• 236[01:16:00] <expon> yeah nvz use -e whenever you can, ie 'end'
• 237[01:16:09] <expon> and -u for a specific unit
• 238[01:16:22] <rjcarr> expon: Thanks, for example, for directories it should be 775 and it comes out 700.
• 239[01:16:22] <oxek> my fault for using buster-backports:
• 240[01:16:25] <oxek> ,bug #961501
• 241[01:16:27] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 242[01:16:32] <expon> so `journalctl -aef` 'tail all logs starting somewhere near the end'
• 243[01:16:33] <nvz> ah, ok, the -e I think I should alias that.. cause I pretty much always wanna start at the end :P
• 244[01:16:34] <oxek> though I am still surprised it slipped past maintainers
• 245[01:16:35] <rjcarr> But the first directory it writes is correct.
• 246[01:16:58] <expon> rjcarr: directories will be sourcemask & 775, so if the source is 0700 it'll come out as 0700 i believe
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• 249[01:17:40] <expon> if you just want to chmod everything to those values i think you'd get rid of --perms, but don't quote me on that (do a dry run!)
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• 251[01:18:52] <nvz> just seeking to the end in the pager on my system takes a long beat
• 252[01:19:11] <rjcarr> expn: I’ve tried both, and I recall them being very slightly different, but both wrong. Thanks for the help, though!
• 253[01:19:21] <expon> hah, yeah reading the docs it's slightly ambiguous
• 254[01:19:26] <nvz> seems my uptime on this t440 laptop is 51 days.. so even without persistence I have big logs :P
• 255[01:19:29] <expon> on whether it's overwriting the source file's permissions, or masking it
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• 257[01:20:19] <nvz> oh wait, thats the server that has been up 51 days, this has only been up 16 days :P
• 258[01:20:21] <rjcarr> expon: OK, thanks.
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• 260[01:20:57] <nvz> I need to go back to color coding terminals obviously :D
• 261[01:22:11] <expon> tmux-powerline is cute but the second i change a vim mode it won't go back to normal, so i can't use that for my colour coding
• 262[01:22:23] <expon> so instead i have black and unstyled green horror
• 263[01:23:07] <nvz> I dont even remember how I used to do it.. but I used to have the whole termnal change color.. but perhaps just a color coded prompt would be sufficient
• 264[01:23:15] <nvz> cause I obviously dont read it.. heh
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• 329[02:24:51] <Deano59> petn-randall: you still around?
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• 331[02:26:50] <Deano59> I re-installed debian, didn't do anything except install network manager and tried the vpn via nm-applet, it worked. so I rebooted, it worked. so I ran a script to install the stuff I use, rebooted and now it's not working again. this is the script I ran; replaced-url
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• 333[02:30:02] <petn-randall> ...
• 334[02:30:30] <petn-randall> As if I'm sitting on my desktop, staring at the IRC client to respond the moment someone highlights me.
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• 336[02:31:09] <abrotman> petn-randall: I can't believe you left your post ...
• 337[02:31:39] <petn-randall> They disconnected while I was looking at the script. m(
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• 339[02:32:37] <annadane> !add Deano59 to Official Debian Hall Of Shame thing
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• 342[02:33:03] <Deano59> any ideas anyone?
• 343[02:33:16] <petn-randall> Deano59: You're back! I thought you were gone forever.
• 344[02:33:23] <Deano59> no lol
• 345[02:33:36] <dvs> petn-randall, run away now!
• 346[02:33:46] <Deano59> I'm trying to think what's causing it. xD
• 347[02:33:51] <Deano59> dvs: not nice. haha
• 348[02:33:54] <petn-randall> Deano59: You disconnected as I was about to respond. You only gave me 3 minutes to see you message and read the script.
• 349[02:34:10] <Deano59> I was rebooting. ;P
• 350[02:34:32] <petn-randall> Deano59: I don't see anything obvious, but I'd run every line sepearately to check what causes it to fail.
• 351[02:34:53] <Deano59> re-install AGAIN? lol
• 352[02:35:04] <abrotman> petn-randall: hey, could you make me some eggs?
• 353[02:35:04] <petn-randall> Deano59: Also, I recommend using something like ansible to configure your system instead of long scripts.
• 354[02:35:19] <Deano59> ansible?
• 355[02:35:26] <petn-randall> Deano59: You can also try reversing all steps to see if it fixes it.
• 356[02:35:29] <abrotman> Deano59: also .. you're installing a huge set of packages all at once .. might behoove you to do that in smaller chunks
• 357[02:35:51] <r3> *gasp* RedHat ansible? in here? ;)
• 358[02:36:27] <Deano59> brb
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• 360[02:36:40] <annadane> quick, block the channel for all new entrants
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• 396[03:28:11] <lawr3nce> hey
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• 398[03:30:04] <dvs> yo
• 399[03:30:45] <joze> sup
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• 403[03:34:43] <dvs> !next
• 404[03:34:43] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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• 435[03:51:03] <spacedust> replaced-url
• 436[03:51:09] <spacedust> Industrial dance X -Rx A to A and D to D
• 437[03:51:14] <spacedust> the lyrics is awesome :D
• 438[03:51:42] <spacedust> and im pro debian, but can we opt out of systemD please ?
• 439[03:51:53] <abrotman> No
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• 441[03:52:04] <spacedust> that is a capital N
• 442[03:52:11] <spacedust> followed by a small case o
• 443[03:52:12] <abrotman> spacedust: please go play elsewhere
• 444[03:53:33] <spacedust> abrotman: listen to the song :D lol not meaning it to you but to what believes you follow :) No ? followed by a go away ? :D then i even dedicate this song to you :D lol sorry to be first one to reply dont take it that way :D i didnt mean it to you :D nor the first one to reply :D its just what you replied :D
• 445[03:54:03] <abrotman> spacedust: this is a support channel, go away
• 446[03:54:04] <spacedust> i came here with one simple question, no is okay but go away ? why ? 1 link to youtube ?
• 447[03:54:10] <spacedust> oh okay i see
• 448[03:54:17] <spacedust> then i go
• 449[03:54:30] <spacedust> if -systemD = no support chan
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• 455[03:55:29] <annadane> i should know this but just to double check, you recursively remove all subdirectories within a directory via rm -r /directory/*?
• 456[03:55:47] <abrotman> yes
• 457[03:55:55] <abrotman> that will remove all content under that dir
• 458[03:55:56] <themill> * won't match .foo if that is important
• 459[03:56:07] <abrotman> not just directories
• 460[03:56:28] <abrotman> Sorry, other than . files as themill mentions
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• 462[03:57:17] <annadane> just thinking how much of /timeshift i should be clearing up
• 463[03:57:40] <annadane> if i delete all that stuff but leave the parent dir intact surely it'll just make directories as needed next time i run it
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• 491[04:33:53] <mns> I have my old debian system, mounted as an external drive now. I want to see what versions of packages I had on that system. anyway to retrieve that data ?
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• 494[04:35:12] <Deano59> petn-randall: found out what was causing it. ;P
• 495[04:35:17] <petn-randall> mns: You can try to chroot into it.
• 496[04:35:21] <Deano59> had to install one by one lol
• 497[04:35:24] <petn-randall> Deano59: What was it?
• 498[04:35:40] <Deano59> network-manager-gnome messed up something. lol
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• 500[04:36:19] <Deano59> as soon as I removed it, restarted; fine. installed; problems.
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• 502[04:36:32] <petn-randall> Deano59: But you're running gnome?
• 503[04:36:41] <petn-randall> Shouldn't that already be installed by default?
• 504[04:36:43] <Deano59> nope, was LXQt
• 505[04:37:03] <petn-randall> Does installing it remove something else?
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• 507[04:37:16] <Deano59> no idea, don't think so.
• 508[04:37:40] <Deano59> I gotta go 4am and I gotta be up at 6am. sorry, just wanted to let y'know. :)
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• 512[04:39:42] <mns> petn-randall: the old debian system is mounted as an external drive on my freebsd system now. I just wnt to see if I can find out the version numbers of the pakages I used to have installed on debian system
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• 515[04:40:26] <petn-randall> mns: so ... does chroot work?
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• 517[04:43:26] <mns> petn-randall: you mean run the debian system inside a chroot ? no I don't think that will help
• 518[04:43:41] <mns> the drive is a read-only drive
• 519[04:44:23] <mns> or I'm failing to understand what you are trying to say
• 520[04:44:42] <petn-randall> mns: If you chroot into the Debian system, you can simply use all tools you know from before.
• 521[04:45:07] <petn-randall> mns: `chroot <path/to/mounted/debian> /bin/bash`, then just run `dpkg -l`.
• 522[04:45:49] <petn-randall> mns: You other option is to parse /var/lib/dpkg/status by hand, I guess.
• 523[04:45:53] <petn-randall> *Your
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• 527[04:47:46] <mns> petn-randall: ok I didn't know I could do that with chroot. hmm wonder if it will work when I'm on a freebsd system. will try it out. otherwise parsing dpkg/status will have to be it
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• 536[04:56:39] <petn-randall> mns: Since kfreebsd/Debian also exists, it might just work. Though I honestly have no idea.
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• 542[05:00:00] <mns> petn-randall: no mine is actual freebsd. and I can't get bash to load as it think the "kernel" is too old hmm
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• 544[05:00:55] <bomb> heretic!
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• 546[05:01:57] <mns> lol
• 547[05:02:48] <petn-randall> mns: What error does it throw? I'm genuinely curious.
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• 549[05:10:22] <mns> whenI run the "chroot /path/to/debian/drive /bin/bash" I get "FATAL: kernel too old"
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• 551[05:11:01] <petn-randall> heh :)
• 552[05:11:17] <petn-randall> mns: I guess you you'll have to read /var/lib/dpkg/status then.
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• 556[05:20:01] <annadane> when even debian tells you your stuff is too old ....
• 557[05:21:14] <InnovAnon-Inc> lmfao good ol' debian
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• 559[05:24:40] <mns> petn-randall: yeah reading through status now
• 560[05:25:09] <mns> petn-randall: kfreebsd support was dropped in Debian 8 fyi
• 561[05:25:18] <bomb> yeah :(
• 562[05:26:26] <annadane> 9, no?
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• 564[05:27:09] <skyliner_369> is unattended-upgr a deb utility or an Ubuntu util?
• 565[05:27:55] <petn-randall> skyliner_369: unattended-upgrades is packaged Debian, if that's your question.
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• 569[05:33:23] <skyliner_369> I more am asking if it's part of, like, the debian core or if it's added by the Ubuntu team
• 570[05:34:11] <skyliner_369> added by Canonical more accurately
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• 575[05:36:56] <petn-randall> skyliner_369: Sorry, I don't understand your question. Are you asking who the upstream author is?
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• 577[05:38:39] <petn-randall> skyliner_369: It's developed by two people who are both Ubuntu and Debian Developers. It's in Debian proper, and also in Ubuntu main.
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• 585[05:46:15] <oxek> Is debsums still a useful tool to use?
• 586[05:46:16] <skyliner_369> was more asking if it was part of the debian project. as in a debian component. not just a canonical thing.
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• 588[05:47:21] <petn-randall> oxek: yes?
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• 594[05:48:30] <skyliner_369> like would it come with, I dunno, Kali, if I went with that distro?
• 595[05:48:51] <petn-randall> skyliner_369: You'd have to ask Kali what they ship.
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• 613[06:19:35] <metbsd> how to let a user config network device?
• 614[06:20:04] <metbsd> RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted
• 615[06:20:08] <metbsd> i have this error now
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• 619[06:24:49] <petn-randall> metbsd: When doing what?
• 620[06:25:06] <metbsd> ip link set
• 621[06:25:21] <metbsd> now i'm in gnone and can't enable wifi
• 622[06:25:35] <metbsd> but i can ip link set up as root
• 623[06:25:47] <petn-randall> metbsd: Why would you need to run that?
• 624[06:26:08] <petn-randall> Unsurprisingly, since you can break a network connection with that.
• 625[06:26:11] <metbsd> i need to configure network in gnome
• 626[06:26:19] <metbsd> but now i can't
• 627[06:26:28] <petn-randall> metbsd: That doesn't work with network-manager?
• 628[06:26:28] <metbsd> so i suspect i don't have permission
• 629[06:26:57] <petn-randall> Ok, let's step back for a moment. What *problem* are you trying to solve?
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• 631[06:27:06] <metbsd> network manager in gnome says no adapter found
• 632[06:27:23] <metbsd> i'm trying to configure wifi network in gnome. but it's says no adapter found
• 633[06:27:44] <metbsd> so i started shell and configure wifi as root. and it works
• 634[06:27:53] <petn-randall> metbsd: And you can see your wifi adapter listed with 'ip link'?
• 635[06:28:00] <metbsd> yes
• 636[06:28:08] <metbsd> as root yes
• 637[06:28:12] <metbsd> as normal user can't
• 638[06:28:28] <petn-randall> metbsd: What's it's name?
• 639[06:28:38] <petn-randall> *its
• 640[06:28:42] <metbsd> ok normal user can do ip link
• 641[06:28:47] <metbsd> but can't ip link set
• 642[06:28:51] <metbsd> wlp7s0
• 643[06:29:12] <petn-randall> metbsd: Do you have it configured in /etc/network/interfaces?
• 644[06:29:27] <metbsd> 07:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8822BE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac WiFi adapter
• 645[06:29:42] <metbsd> yes config it in interfaces with hotplugin ssid psk
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• 647[06:29:59] <metbsd> it's lenovo legion y530
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• 649[06:30:23] <petn-randall> metbsd: That's the reason. If it's listed there n-m won't touch it.
• 650[06:30:59] <metbsd> but it wasn't there before
• 651[06:31:14] <metbsd> and still not seen by gnome network manager
• 652[06:31:26] <metbsd> you want me to delete entries in interfaces?
• 653[06:31:41] <petn-randall> metbsd: Remove it there and reboot, and it should be configurable in n-m.
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• 657[06:33:02] <metbsd> ok let me reboot, hold on
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• 664[06:38:37] <metbsd> same problem
• 665[06:39:01] <metbsd> no wifi adapter found
• 666[06:39:42] <metbsd> the card is down too
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• 668[06:39:53] <metbsd> but it still should be seen
• 669[06:40:39] <petn-randall> metbsd: Do you have the firmware installed?
• 670[06:40:51] <petn-randall> Most wifi cards won't work without firmware.
• 671[06:42:09] <metbsd> yes
• 672[06:42:36] <metbsd> firmware-realtek
• 673[06:43:47] <petn-randall> metbsd: Then I'd look into the logs what's happening.
• 674[06:44:36] <metbsd> dmesg?
• 675[06:44:45] <metbsd> what log should i look
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• 677[06:45:40] <metbsd> it says wlps7sp managed
• 678[06:46:10] <petn-randall> metbsd: What OS release do you have installed?
• 679[06:46:29] <metbsd> no thats old log
• 680[06:46:40] <metbsd> 10.4
• 681[06:46:48] <metbsd> new install
• 682[06:46:58] <oxek> If some package adds files to /etc/cron.daily/ during apt install, do those files get automatically run by cron? Or do I need to configure something extra?
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• 684[06:47:39] <metbsd> ok it says managed
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• 686[06:47:54] <metbsd> but i dont know where i managed it
• 687[06:48:14] <petn-randall> oxek: They automatically get used.
• 688[06:48:41] <oxek> petn-randall: thank you
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• 690[06:50:05] <petn-randall> metbsd: What says managed? I'm missing some context here.
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• 692[06:50:32] <metbsd> sys-iface-state: external
• 693[06:52:29] <sigridservice> metbsd: There's a Lenovo Y530 troubleshooting guide that also describes Wifi setup: replaced-url
• 694[06:53:02] <sigridservice> it's for Ubuntu but might help anyway
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• 700[06:55:49] <metbsd> ibubtu wont eve install on this
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• 703[06:57:37] <metbsd> maybe laptop is too new?
• 704[06:57:58] <metbsd> my old laptop works fine in debian
• 705[06:59:02] <sigridservice> metbsd: these are instuctions "to configure the realtek module and get wifi working", I'd give it a shot
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• 709[07:01:45] <metbsd> but wifi works in command line as root
• 710[07:01:59] <metbsd> just normal user cant configure it
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• 712[07:02:30] <petn-randall> metbsd: You can set up your wifi connection with `ip link`, and use the internet normally?
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• 715[07:03:59] <metbsd> yes petn-randall
• 716[07:04:05] <metbsd> as root though
• 717[07:04:13] <petn-randall> metbsd: What is the complete command?
• 718[07:04:39] <metbsd> ip link set wlp7s0 up
• 719[07:04:47] <petn-randall> Eh, no
• 720[07:04:53] <metbsd> and then dhclient
• 721[07:05:02] <petn-randall> You're not configuring a wifi SSSD with that.
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• 723[07:05:15] <metbsd> thats in interfaces
• 724[07:05:18] <petn-randall> You're also not connecting to an AP with it.
• 725[07:05:21] <petn-randall> ...
• 726[07:05:49] <petn-randall> I've told you that n-m won't touch your wifi device if it's listed in /etc/network/interfaces.
• 727[07:05:50] <metbsd> but now itls deleted in interface
• 728[07:05:59] <metbsd> i mean before
• 729[07:07:49] <sigridservice> metbsd: does 'lsmod |grep idea" return anything?
• 730[07:07:52] <metbsd> now interfaces config is removed. restart NetworkManager
• 731[07:08:00] <metbsd> it still says managed
• 732[07:08:53] <metbsd> return ideapad_laptop 40960 0
• 733[07:11:10] <metbsd> and some rfkill
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• 735[07:11:29] <metbsd> rfkill software unblocked
• 736[07:11:38] <sigridservice> metbsd: Some sources say you ought to remove that module on the Y530 to get wifi working: 'sudo rmmod ideapad_laptop'
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• 748[07:23:53] <efloid> i wish every language had a document like perldoc perlintro :-)
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• 755[07:29:20] <Aurora_v_kosmose> Is there a way to know if nginx was compiled with --with-stream and with-stream_ssl_module configuration parameters?
• 756[07:30:37] <efloid> Aurora_v_kosmose: sudo nginx -V perhaps
• 757[07:31:41] <Aurora_v_kosmose> efloid: Oh, right you are. Thanks.
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• 759[07:33:43] <Aurora_v_kosmose> Ah wonderful, it is compiled with it.
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• 872[09:50:13] <cadmio> Helloù
• 873[09:51:07] <cadmio> I was trying to generate a deb package in the end I've got these two files: one with extension .build and another .dsc. Is that all?
• 874[09:52:35] <uebera||> Could someone point me to a compact explanation on (1) how to include localised package descriptions in a control file and (2) how to process to generate Translation-XY files from this (reprepro does still not seem to support this on-the-fly out of the box)?
• 875[09:53:29] <uebera||> cadmio: Do you want to (re)build an existing package or do you want to create one from scratch? To download all required packages for an existing package, you can use "dget replaced-url
• 876[09:53:40] <uebera||> s /packages/files/
• 877[09:54:01] <cadmio> uebera||, it is my program I'm trying to pack
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• 879[09:55:25] <uebera||> cadmio: I see. Both .build and .dsc are autogenerated. You need a couple of files in a debian/ subdirectory. There's a whole howto regarding this.
• 880[09:55:51] <uebera||> See --> replaced-url
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• 882[09:57:29] <uebera||> This should contain necessary reference links --> replaced-url
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• 885[10:01:03] <cadmio> I've all these 3 that the guide mentions .dsc, a .orig.tar.gz, and a .debian.tar.xz
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• 891[10:03:12] <cadmio> I'm not sure what to do with those
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• 894[10:06:03] <uebera||> cadmio: See replaced-url
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• 898[10:06:47] <cadmio> that doesn't explain how to build from sources
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• 906[10:09:48] <uebera||> cadmio: If you say that you have a .debian.tar.xz, you're not starting from scratch… so dpkg-buildpackage will rebuild everything for you (that's what it's built for). The first link (replaced-url
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• 925[10:21:23] <cadmio> uebera||, I've used dh_make and debuild to produce them
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• 935[10:30:49] <themill> cadmio: what do you actually have at this stage?
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• 937[10:32:06] <cadmio> themill, these a .dsc, a .orig.tar.gz, and a .debian.tar.xz
• 938[10:32:57] <themill> OK, so those 3 things together are what makes a "source package". Do you want to just build that on your local machine or are you planning to build in some sort of clean environment
• 939[10:33:55] <cadmio> I'd like to port it to another operating system
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• 941[10:36:10] <themill> "dpkg-source -x foo.dsc" will unpack the sources, apply any patches. If you were building for Debian, "cd foo-1.2.3-1; dpkg-buildpackage" but if you're building for a different OS, you won't have dpkg-buildpackage available most likely.
• 942[10:37:45] <cadmio> shouldn't there be a .deb file as result?
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• 944[10:38:08] <themill> after dpkg-buildpackage has completed, yes
• 945[10:39:32] <cadmio> so I simply run dpkg-source -x on the .dsc file that has been generated
• 946[10:40:03] <themill> sure, that was step 1
• 947[10:40:32] <cadmio> and I got the final package .deb
• 948[10:40:51] <themill> no, dpkg-source -x will not produce a .deb
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• 950[10:42:45] <cadmio> that is for unpacking, right?
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• 960[10:51:45] <themill> cadmio: yes, "dpkg-source -x" only unpacks the source, it doesn't compile anything
• 961[10:52:08] <cadmio> I have to pack my sources which are .c files
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• 963[10:54:18] <themill> 'pack' meaning what?
• 964[10:54:47] <themill> compile?
• 965[10:54:48] <cadmio> to produce a .deb file
• 966[10:55:57] <themill> If your source package is correctly constructed, "cd foo-1.2.3-1; dpkg-buildpackage"
• 967[10:56:57] <cadmio> I've .dsc, a .orig.tar.gz, and a .debian.tar.xz outside foo-1.2.3-1
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• 983[11:12:11] <cadmio> themill, is it ok like that?
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• 985[11:14:23] <uebera||> cadmio: You will have little choice but to read about the tools in question (replaced-url
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• 1035[12:14:16] <fnoyanisi> hi. how can I configure static ip for a network interface?
• 1036[12:14:24] <fnoyanisi> I am on debian 10
• 1037[12:15:18] <efloid> fnoyanisi: is it a system that will always be on the same network?
• 1038[12:15:24] <fnoyanisi> yes
• 1039[12:16:27] <efloid> fnoyanisi: then you might consider using netplan. you would need to remove ifupdown, networkmanager, and connman then set up a config .yaml file
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• 1041[12:16:51] <efloid> netplan is the wave of the future
• 1042[12:17:10] <fnoyanisi> wow...isn't there are "edit this file and done" approach?
• 1043[12:17:23] <fnoyanisi> s/are/an
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• 1045[12:18:03] <efloid> fnoyanisi: depends if you're using networkmanager, ifupdown, or connman
• 1046[12:18:17] <fnoyanisi> it is a fresh install, so not sure to be honest
• 1047[12:18:44] <fnoyanisi> I think I might have installed debian only once or twice in my life, so take me as a newbie to debian
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• 1049[12:19:47] <efloid> fnoyanisi: depending on which desktop environment you're using there might be a network configuration tool in the menu
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• 1051[12:20:51] <fnoyanisi> I use tty only. I ssh into the debian box
• 1052[12:22:02] <efloid> fnoyanisi: what does 'dpkg -l |grep ifupdown' say?
• 1053[12:22:19] <AndreasLutro> fnoyanisi: you can assign a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces - replaced-url
• 1054[12:23:12] <fnoyanisi> efloid: ii ifupdown
• 1055[12:23:16] <efloid> AndreasLutro: that assumes ifupdown is installed and that networkmanager or connman aren't installed
• 1056[12:23:47] <efloid> fnoyanisi: ok then yes you can do what AndreasLutro says. also 'man interfaces' for info on editing the file
• 1057[12:23:58] <miskatonic> I stuill use the oldfashioned infonfig. Theres not much for me to config, though.
• 1058[12:24:22] <miskatonic> ifonfig, however deprecated it is
• 1059[12:25:04] <efloid> personally i apt purge ifupdown and install netplan
• 1060[12:25:04] <fnoyanisi> I was surprised when I got "command not found" when I hit enter after typing ifconfig
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• 1062[12:25:30] <efloid> fnoyanisi: because /sbin isn't in your $PATH as user
• 1063[12:25:36] <fnoyanisi> I am root
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• 1065[12:26:05] <efloid> fnoyanisi: do you have the ip command?
• 1066[12:26:50] <efloid> try 'ip a'
• 1067[12:26:57] <fnoyanisi> yes, i do
• 1068[12:27:31] <efloid> right well ip replaces ifconfig
• 1069[12:27:44] <efloid> replaced-url
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• 1071[12:29:24] <fnoyanisi> yes. is this same for other OS'es using Linux or just debian?
• 1072[12:30:19] <efloid> fnoyanisi: iproute2 is now standard on all Linux
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• 1074[12:31:02] <miskatonic> i do have the ip command, indeed
• 1075[12:31:46] <efloid> ifconfig is in the dustbin. ifupdown should be too.
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• 1077[12:32:30] <miskatonic> why is ifconfig in the dustbin?
• 1078[12:32:46] <efloid> actually though if you have a laptop then use networkmanager
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• 1082[12:36:45] <efloid> miskatonic: it has been superceded by iproute2
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• 1084[12:37:29] <fnoyanisi> boom....editing /etc/interfaces and rebooting did it
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• 1086[12:42:32] <miskatonic> I do not have a laptop. What is so special about them that it requires a wholly different set of commands?
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• 1088[12:43:31] <fnoyanisi> I installed debian in a VM
• 1089[12:43:42] <efloid> miskatonic: a laptop uses a graphical interface and also can change networks. networkmanager (or connman) has a graphical front end and deals with network changes
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• 1091[12:44:31] <efloid> although you can use networkmanager command line tool or just edit config file. so yes you could set a static ip with it too.
• 1092[12:45:05] <efloid> however on a server you might be doing things like bonded interfaces, vlans, and bridges so use netplan
• 1093[12:47:35] <fnoyanisi> yea...I actually needed to try a few command line utilities hence installed debian
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• 1105[12:57:52] <Kats99> So I saw a presentation on selinux by Redhat and got it installed and enabled. I created a html file in my home directory and moved it to /var/replaced-url
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• 1112[13:04:11] <miskatonic> doesn't selinux require some kind of configuration to know what to permit and what not?
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• 1116[13:06:48] <ksk> miskatonic: sure.
• 1117[13:06:58] <ksk> debian does not come with such a configuration as far as I know.
• 1118[13:07:07] <ksk> !tell miskatonic about selinux
• 1119[13:07:20] <ksk> did you check the debian wiki page about Selinux already, should there be one?
• 1120[13:07:29] <Kats99> yes there is
• 1121[13:07:41] <ksk> miskatonic: replaced-url
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• 1127[13:13:19] <velix> Wow, finally systemd makes a sense to me. Thanks got for systemd-nspawn and img. 100% docker replacement here.
• 1128[13:13:40] <velix> I can even build containers from dockerfile and directly use them in nspawn.
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• 1130[13:14:23] <velix> brb, my eggs want some bacon
• 1131[13:16:07] <ksk> velix: glad to hear that, I have always wanted to do something practical with nspawn, but ended up with lxc-containers for my private use
• 1132[13:17:04] <ksk> maybe something like shared webhosting where every tenant gets his nginx et al spawned via sytemd-nspawn on demand. It might be lightweight and nice - or not, not quite sure yet.
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• 1155[13:40:57] <velix> For my webspace, I'm _only_ using podman.
• 1156[13:41:03] <velix> Podman can run 100% in user space.
• 1157[13:41:19] <velix> nspawn and lxc/lxd still have a root daemon.
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• 1160[13:42:00] <velix> of course, podman needs some workaround to connect to the "normal world" which turn down performance _a bit_, but only in synthetic tests, not in real life tests.
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• 1162[13:42:16] <velix> For pulling a docker image and running it for local use, nspawn (and img for pulling or building) are awesome.
• 1163[13:42:34] <velix> No extra repositories, only 1-2 small extra packages.
• 1164[13:43:21] <jack2020> Hi, please does know anyone why afteri run a script with a command mkdir -p /dir/dir1/dir2 the directory does not exist?
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• 1167[13:44:27] <jack2020> Linux debian 4.19.0-9-amd64
• 1168[13:44:38] <kopax> hi, I just lost nslcd access to the ldap for all my user
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• 1170[13:44:54] <kopax> lookin at the cert, it is expiring in september 2020 so it should not be a cert expired issue
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• 1172[13:45:19] <kopax> however, I cant login as my user, getent passwd can retrieve user from the ldap, configuration as not changed, what could cause that?
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• 1176[13:46:26] <bomb> jack2020: maybe you don't have write access to /
• 1177[13:46:49] <jack2020> I am running as a root
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• 1180[13:48:35] <jack2020> in depth 1 and 2 all goes fine, in depth 3 NO
• 1181[13:49:37] <jack2020> stil if I run cd /dir/dir1; mkdir dir2
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• 1184[13:53:43] <miskatonic> wouldn't one rather connect the two commands with a &&, to avaoid that the new directory gets created in an unwanted place if the first command fails?
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• 1187[13:58:07] <jack2020> miskatonic: stil in mkdir -p /dir/dir1; test -d /dir/dir1; echo $?; if [ $? -eq -0 ]; then cd /dir/dir1; mkdir dir2 fi
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• 1197[14:09:35] <kopax_> how can I troubleshoot nslcd
• 1198[14:10:13] <abrotman> in what way?
• 1199[14:10:50] <bomb> replaced-url
• 1200[14:11:02] <kopax_> ldap_start_tls: Connect error (-11)
• 1201[14:11:12] <abrotman> did it just start today?
• 1202[14:11:15] <kopax_> yes
• 1203[14:11:20] <kopax_> I was gonna git push and got this
• 1204[14:11:44] <abrotman> so the old code is broken also? the port works, but TLS does not?
• 1205[14:11:46] <bomb> expired cert?
• 1206[14:11:50] <kopax_> port works
• 1207[14:12:07] <abrotman> Does the cert use AddTrust that might have expired at 1100UTC today or whwatever time it was?
• 1208[14:12:08] <kopax_> I wonder if thats it, but on gandi.net, it says expiring in september 2020
• 1209[14:12:12] <kopax_> so I found that weird
• 1210[14:12:40] <kopax_> maybe
• 1211[14:12:42] <kopax_> how can I check
• 1212[14:13:00] <kopax_> Did an addtrust certificate expire today ?
• 1213[14:13:01] <abrotman> are you allowed to share the host:port ?
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• 1215[14:13:41] <Neoon> yea
• 1216[14:13:44] <Neoon> the cert expired
• 1217[14:13:50] <Neoon> curl exploded
• 1218[14:13:51] <kopax_> - subject `CN=USERTrust RSA Certification Authority,O=The USERTRUST Network,L=Jersey City,ST=New Jersey,C=US', issuer `CN=AddTrust External CA Root,OU=AddTrust External TTP Network,O=AddTrust AB,C=SE', serial 0x13ea28705bf4eced0c36630980614336, RSA key 4096 bits, signed using RSA-SHA384, activated `2000-05-30 10:48:38 UTC', expires `2020-05-30 10:48:38 UTC', pin-sha256="x4QzPSC810K5/cMjb05Qm4k3Bw5zBn4lTdO/nEW/Td4="
• 1219[14:13:53] <Neoon> nothing works anymore
• 1220[14:13:59] <Neoon> even on stretch
• 1221[14:13:59] <kopax_> this?
• 1222[14:14:06] <Neoon> with the newest ca-certificate package
• 1223[14:14:11] <abrotman> yeah, that ..
• 1224[14:14:13] <kopax_> what can I do to get back to my work
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• 1226[14:14:22] <abrotman> it's causing problems for some services
• 1227[14:14:29] <kopax_> what should I do? Wait?
• 1228[14:14:30] <Neoon> it took my hole website down
• 1229[14:14:32] <Neoon> nnice
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• 1231[14:14:34] <abrotman> I think in NSLCD there's a way to ignore TLS failures
• 1232[14:14:35] <Neoon> 10/10
• 1233[14:14:38] <Neoon> yea
• 1234[14:14:43] <Neoon> enable MITM
• 1235[14:14:48] <Neoon> perfect
• 1236[14:14:55] <Neoon> just get someone to fix ca-certificates
• 1237[14:15:09] <Neoon> how can debian fuck this up
• 1238[14:15:15] <abrotman> they didn't
• 1239[14:15:18] <Neoon> this was announced a while ago
• 1240[14:15:34] <kopax_> I dont understand. I am working with this LDAP I am the only user and use it widely on my platform. I am supposed to deliver on the 30th of may to my client, I was about to be just late enough, now I am stuck. What would you do ? 1) wait , 2) fight against it
• 1241[14:15:34] <Neoon> so you mean curl is the issue?
• 1242[14:16:04] <abrotman> kopax_: is this your own cert?
• 1243[14:16:32] <kopax_> no, its not my cert, its my CA cert
• 1244[14:16:34] <kopax_> from gandi
• 1245[14:16:52] <abrotman> again, you can allow your side to trust all certs, if you'd like to be that bold
• 1246[14:17:07] <kopax_> or?
• 1247[14:17:15] <kopax_> how can I allow?
• 1248[14:17:19] <abrotman> or don't use TLS? :)
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• 1250[14:19:53] <abrotman> it looks like if you can find the proper ldap config, you can use TLS_REQCERT and set it to allow .. as Neoon alluded to .. this basically ignores cert validation errors (so yes, a MITM could happen)
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• 1252[14:20:13] <abrotman> see `man ldap.conf`
• 1253[14:20:21] <Neoon> dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates
• 1254[14:20:24] <Neoon> and remove the cert
• 1255[14:20:26] <Neoon> seems to fix it
• 1256[14:20:36] <abrotman> Neoon: which version are you on?
• 1257[14:20:36] <Neoon> AddTrust External
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• 1259[14:20:40] <Neoon> stretch
• 1260[14:20:44] <abrotman> Ugh ..
• 1261[14:20:46] <abrotman> okay
• 1262[14:20:52] <abrotman> I know, people have reasons :)
• 1263[14:20:56] <Neoon> well
• 1264[14:21:01] <Neoon> I only upgrade when I need to
• 1265[14:21:26] <Neoon> debian should remove that cert out of that package
• 1266[14:21:56] <abrotman> feel free to file a bug on the package
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• 1268[14:23:10] <abrotman> kopax_: see the bits above?
• 1269[14:23:25] <kopax_> sorry?
• 1270[14:23:30] * kopax_ in panic, excuse my panic
• 1271[14:23:47] <kopax_> I have tried like Neoon said, remove and readd that package with dpkg-reconfigure
• 1272[14:23:49] <kopax_> that did not help
• 1273[14:24:04] <Neoon> maybe you done something wrong?
• 1274[14:24:07] <Neoon> works here again
• 1275[14:24:23] <abrotman> might depend on the remote cert?
• 1276[14:24:39] <kopax_> how do you test that it work? what do you expect and see?/
• 1277[14:25:02] <abrotman> your git should work again, if it worked
• 1278[14:25:04] <Neoon> curl a website that was fucked
• 1279[14:25:06] <Neoon> removed it
• 1280[14:25:08] <Neoon> curled it again
• 1281[14:25:08] <abrotman> you might need to restart nslcd
• 1282[14:25:10] <Neoon> worked
• 1283[14:25:21] <kopax_> I cant login as my user so I can git as him
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• 1285[14:25:44] <kopax_> su: user dka does not exist
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• 1287[14:26:01] <abrotman> you use ldap for your nsswitch?
• 1288[14:26:31] <abrotman> kopax_: do you have a /etc/ldap.conf ?
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• 1290[14:27:13] <kopax_> No, i have /etc/ldap/ldap.conf
• 1291[14:27:35] <abrotman> okay .. so you can try to alter that TLS_REQCERT parameter there
• 1292[14:27:59] <kopax_> cat I disable the cacert in order to log as me
• 1293[14:28:15] <kopax_> I have a project that generate the cert but I cant access it
• 1294[14:28:23] <kopax_> I dont remember how I generated it
• 1295[14:28:27] <abrotman> that's what the above option does ..
• 1296[14:28:36] <abrotman> you're effectively disabling TLS validation
• 1297[14:28:52] <kopax_> I Use TLS_REQCERTFILE
• 1298[14:29:29] <kopax_> I commented it and did s nslcd restart
• 1299[14:29:33] <kopax_> I still have connect error
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• 1302[14:30:14] <abrotman> the option is just TLS_REQCERT ... man ldap.conf
• 1303[14:30:53] <kopax_> I have nothing like this in that file
• 1304[14:31:20] <kopax_> I have, uri, binddn, bindpw, sudoers_base, sudoers_timed, sudoers_debug, ssl, tls_cacertfile, the rest is commented
• 1305[14:31:26] <abrotman> you would have to add it
• 1306[14:31:37] <abrotman> let me guess .. you can't because you can't sudo ?
• 1307[14:31:38] <kopax_> what would be the value?
• 1308[14:31:46] <kopax_> Yes I use my first user, which is not on the ldap
• 1309[14:32:08] <abrotman> TLSREQCERT allow
• 1310[14:32:11] <abrotman> grr
• 1311[14:32:16] <abrotman> TLS_REQCERT allow
• 1312[14:32:38] <kopax_> And how do I test it that it work? I just tried to auth and still error
• 1313[14:33:04] <abrotman> restart nslcd
• 1314[14:33:14] <abrotman> this is really a guess .. there may be multiple ldap.conf files on your system
• 1315[14:33:34] <abrotman> could be pam-ldap.conf if that exists, and so on
• 1316[14:33:37] <kopax_> replaced-url
• 1317[14:33:40] <kopax_> this is my configuration
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• 1319[14:35:11] <abrotman> have you tried just disabling TLS?
• 1320[14:35:22] <kopax_> I dont think my server allow it
• 1321[14:35:30] <abrotman> worth trying, no?
• 1322[14:35:31] <kopax_> I can use ldaps
• 1323[14:36:00] <kopax_> sudo: ldap_sasl_bind_s(): Confidentiality required
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• 1325[14:36:16] <kopax_> I knew it, its a security to keep this secure
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• 1328[14:45:17] <kopax_> The Gandi certificate was delivered with 2 cert in it, I think was the AddCert root cert, now it is delivery with one intermediate cert, how can I get the second one?
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• 1353[15:07:08] <nyuszika7h> why are wget and apt complaining that the certificate of replaced-url
• 1354[15:07:55] <Ooze> I'm mounting a network drive w/ CIFS, and I use this to store my replaced-url
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• 1360[15:13:29] <nkuttler> nyuszika7h: incompatible cipher?
• 1361[15:13:49] <nkuttler> nyuszika7h: fwiw, wget on sid has no problem
• 1362[15:13:53] <nyuszika7h> seems like one of the additional certs is expired
• 1363[15:14:02] <nyuszika7h> from what I can see, gnutls complains but openssl happily ignores it
• 1364[15:14:19] <nyuszika7h> replaced-url
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• 1366[15:14:52] <nyuszika7h> I'm using wget on buster which errors out, but on Ubuntu 20.04 it seems to be fine...
• 1367[15:15:32] <nyuszika7h> replaced-url
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• 1369[15:18:43] <Kats99> I installed selinux and now Enigmail says it needs a gui version of pinentry. Back then, I had the same problem when I installed i3 and it had to do with dbus. Please help me.
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• 1371[15:20:10] <nyuszika7h> I'll contact mediaarea.net about this then
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• 1374[15:22:05] <Kats99> replaced-url
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• 1382[15:29:44] <Maizum> hi all
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• 1385[15:30:50] <Maizum> i need help ,i have a fresh debian install that cant start desktop after reboot
• 1386[15:30:54] <Maizum> no desktop
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• 1388[15:31:17] <Maizum> i didnt change video drivers im using nouveuau
• 1389[15:31:23] <Maizum> any idea
• 1390[15:31:26] <Maizum> ?
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• 1392[15:31:51] <Maizum> everithing works but desktop
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• 1394[15:32:09] <Maizum> everything
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• 1408[15:41:11] <LtL> Maizum: try this as root then logout or reboot, systemctl set-default graphical.target
• 1409[15:41:32] <LtL> that may work as user Maizum
• 1410[15:41:46] <Maizum> i will ,thanks
• 1411[15:42:04] <LtL> Maizum: do not start X or wayland as root
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• 1413[15:43:10] <Maizum> i didnt
• 1414[15:44:21] <Maizum> i will reboot,brb (or not) thanks again
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• 1423[15:51:49] <Maizum> im back ,systemctl set-default graphical.target didnt work still with no desktop
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• 1425[15:52:19] <LtL> Maizum: are you sure you installed a desktop?
• 1426[15:52:33] <Maizum> i used b4
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• 1428[15:52:48] <Maizum> first time ok,after reboot cant
• 1429[15:52:57] <LtL> I have no idea what b4 is
• 1430[15:53:20] <Maizum> before
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• 1432[15:53:58] <Gnarlot> Hey all, I'm totally baffled and just spent nearly two hours trying to configure IP forwarding with NAT (which worked before a reboot) - only to find out that it's maybe a bug? Don't know what else it could be?
• 1433[15:54:11] <LtL> Maizum: as root or sudo look at dmesg for errors
• 1434[15:54:16] <Gnarlot> So /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is set to 1, even after reboot. iptables is configured with NAT, but issuing a ping 1.1.1.1 from the machine with the internal network did nothing. I tried everything!
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• 1437[15:54:40] <Gnarlot> Now at that point I was totally desperate, since I had *absolutely no* clue what else could be amiss? So I did the following (and emphasis is here on that I did *nothing* else): echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward - and suddenly it works!
• 1438[15:54:44] <Maizum> i had this problem in past even with other distros ,but only after nvidia driver install
• 1439[15:55:02] <Gnarlot> This is reproducible. After a reboot (cat ip_forward yields 1) I have to set ip_forward to 0, then to 1 to make it work. Any ideas? This is buster btw...
• 1440[15:55:28] <Maizum> im using nouveua
• 1441[15:55:30] <Gnarlot> Never seen this behavior before...
• 1442[15:56:28] <LtL> Maizum: 'sudo dmesg |less' look for errors
• 1443[15:57:46] <Maizum> ] r8169 0000:03:00.0: firmware: failed to load rtl_nic/rtl8168e-3.fw (-2)
• 1444[15:57:46] <Maizum> [ 4.509955] firmware_class: See replaced-url
• 1445[15:57:56] <Maizum> only this
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• 1447[15:58:35] <Maizum> ops ,have more
• 1448[15:58:43] <Maizum> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bus: MMIO read of 00000000 FAULT at 3e6684 [ IBUS ]
• 1449[15:58:43] <Maizum> [ 1.455952] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bus: MMIO read of 00000000 FAULT at 10ac08 [ IBUS ]
• 1450[15:58:57] <Maizum> thats all
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• 1452[15:59:02] <LtL> Maizum: okay, edit /etc/apt/sources.list .. append contrib non-free to each line, save and apt update && apt upgrade
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• 1454[15:59:12] <Maizum> ok
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• 1457[16:01:27] <Maizum> i didd it ,should i reboot now?
• 1458[16:01:36] <Maizum> or just logout
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• 1460[16:03:49] <LtL> did it install anything?
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• 1462[16:04:27] <Maizum> no
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• 1465[16:04:55] <Maizum> its a fresh install i did it 2 hours ago
• 1466[16:05:07] <LtL> Maizum: do 'dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg-video-nouveau' see if its installed.
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• 1468[16:06:14] <Maizum> .0.16-1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver
• 1469[16:06:15] <kopax_> does ldapwhoami use the pem file configured in /etc/ldap/ldap.conf ?
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• 1473[16:07:10] <LtL> Maizum: i would, apt install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau the reboot
• 1474[16:07:15] <Ericounet> hi
• 1475[16:07:41] <LtL> s/the/and
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• 1477[16:08:43] <LtL> hello Ericounet
• 1478[16:10:01] <LtL> Maizum: does it say already installed?
• 1479[16:10:22] <Maizum> yes,but i did it on synaptic
• 1480[16:10:56] <LtL> Maizum: hmm, synaptic from a console? thats a GUI app i thought
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• 1483[16:11:23] <Maizum> yes,in console i couldnt
• 1484[16:11:36] <Maizum> says i have the newest
• 1485[16:12:54] <dar8> Hi, i have a problem downloading a youtube video. The command line is still : "youtube-dl URL" ?
• 1486[16:12:55] <Maizum> i didnt reboot since
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• 1488[16:13:17] <LtL> Maizum: then you must be in a desktop if you can run synaptic or you would see a GTK warning
• 1489[16:13:51] <LtL> dar8: yes that's correct
• 1490[16:14:13] <Maizum> maybe im confusing u ,sorry
• 1491[16:14:58] <Maizum> my panel is working,everything is working i just can see wallpaper or desktop items
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• 1493[16:15:14] <Maizum> a grey instead
• 1494[16:15:34] <Maizum> rigth mouse bottom doesnt work 2
• 1495[16:15:35] <dar8> Weird i have tried it multiples times and i get two errors (Unable to extract, Video unavailable) ...
• 1496[16:15:57] <LtL> Maizum: there is typically no icons in buster without hacking about
• 1497[16:16:16] <LtL> dar8: try as root youtube-dl -U
• 1498[16:17:16] <dar8> Doesn't work
• 1499[16:17:20] <LtL> dar8: i use youtube-dl website for that program, not debian's which is too old
• 1500[16:17:38] <Maizum> youtube-dl: error: youtube-dl's self-update mechanism is disabled on Debia
• 1501[16:18:50] <dar8> I need to update the package ?
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• 1503[16:19:22] <LtL> dar8: replaced-url
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• 1505[16:19:48] <LtL> works with no problem, must be updated manually
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• 1507[16:20:22] <Maizum> now i remember i put icons from other distro on desktop maybe if i delete i fix it,what u think?
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• 1509[16:20:36] <dar8> Oh ok thanks
• 1510[16:20:44] <jmcnaught> Running youtube-dl shouldn't help because it's unlikely to be a permission issue.
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• 1512[16:20:50] <jmcnaught> *as root
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• 1514[16:21:47] <flayer> permission to store the file afterwards maybe?
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• 1516[16:22:08] <flayer> but yeah not in this case
• 1517[16:22:10] <LtL> Maizum: i don't know what desktop you use, i had to mess around with gnome to get a couple icons that were in stretch.
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• 1519[16:22:21] <Maizum> lxqt
• 1520[16:23:10] <Maizum> ok thanks i will fix it thanks for all
• 1521[16:23:15] <LtL> Maizum: yes, do not mix distro's anything is a good rule
• 1522[16:23:41] <Maizum> i will reboot and check
• 1523[16:23:52] <vlt> dar8: I consider youtube-dl a special case due to the nature of the ever changing YouTube web layout and run (and update) it simply in a Python virtual environment.
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• 1525[16:24:17] <Maizum> thanks again
• 1526[16:24:22] <LtL> vlt: i agree, it's a 'special' case.
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• 1528[16:25:27] <vlt> dar8: `/your/desired/python -m venv ./venv_yt; ./venv_yt/bin/pip install youtube-dl; .venv/bin/youtube-dl ...`
• 1529[16:27:23] <vlt> dar8: And now and then: `./venv/bin/pip install --upgrade youtube-dl`
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• 1531[16:31:11] <dar8> Thanks for the script, i can't figure thought the beginning, what do you mean by `/your/desired/
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• 1533[16:33:22] <vlt> dar8: You don’t have to use the system python or python3.
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• 1535[16:34:04] <vlt> dar8: Sometimes I want to use a specific version of Python like one installed by pyenv, dor example.
• 1536[16:34:06] <vlt> *for
• 1537[16:34:49] <onpora> hello, input sounds are not perceived / recorded by the computer. camera and output sound work. It is like this with and without pavucontrol.
• 1538[16:34:51] <vlt> dar8: Shouldn’t matter for running youtube-dl. So just go with `python3 -m venv ...`
• 1539[16:35:08] <onpora> I have all the alsamixer settings at max
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• 1541[16:35:39] <LtL> dar8: you can install youtube-dl as root from that site,and run it as regular user, i have for years.
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• 1545[16:37:49] <onpora> youtube-dl often fails to work and it is always solved when the cache is emptied (cant remember the command now) or an upgrade is run
• 1546[16:37:50] <jmcnaught> onpora: hello. What input are you using, an integrated mic or something that plugs in? Does the input device show up at all in pavucontrol?
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• 1548[16:38:42] <onpora> jmcnaught, I am trying to record sound with the default sound recorder of the desktop, I have a built-in mic. yes, the internal mic shows up in pavu
• 1549[16:38:58] <dar8> Ok thanks for the help. For now i think i will only use Newpipe (Hopefully there will be a desktop version in the future) and then transfer it to my computer. It seems more easy.
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• 1551[16:39:08] <jmcnaught> onpora: does pavucontrol show any activity?
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• 1553[16:40:47] <onpora> jmcnaught, the meter under the internal microphone is vibrating. aside from that, when I record sound with the said program, there is only a rustling sound with a thick, non-uniform meter appearing, which doesnt record the sound I make
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• 1555[16:42:12] <jmcnaught> onpora: in pavucontrol for my onboard microphone I need it set to 13% or all I get is noise, have you tried adjusting to levels that might not make intuitive sense?
• 1556[16:45:02] <dar8> Ah i forget there is also Invidious (With the addon : Invidition) which seem to be working well (Another one that i use)
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• 1559[16:45:27] <onpora> jmcnaught, I tried it, but didnt solve
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• 1561[16:45:54] <jmcnaught> onpora: are there any other input devices?
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• 1563[16:46:15] <karlpinc> onpora: You have confirmed that this is an input and not an output problem?
• 1564[16:46:46] <onpora> jmcnaught, there is also "Monitor of Built-In Analog Stereo"
• 1565[16:47:03] <onpora> other than "Built-In Analog Stereo"
• 1566[16:47:10] <onpora> karlpinc yes
• 1567[16:47:30] <onpora> i.e. streaming videos have no sound problem
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• 1570[16:51:05] <onpora> did I answer your questions correctly?
• 1571[16:52:23] <jmcnaught> I think so
• 1572[16:53:41] <onpora> originally the camera didnt work, either. I found out that it might have to do with bios settings, and indeed it did so. both camera and sound were disabled. I enabled them and the camera worked, but the sound still doesnt
• 1573[16:54:28] <jmcnaught> That's weird. Has the microphone ever worked in a different program or OS?
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• 1575[16:55:45] <onpora> the problem occurs in other programs, too. I haven't tried it with other OS yet
• 1576[16:55:53] <jmcnaught> onpora: on pavucontrol's recording tab is the correct input shown for the sound recorder's stream?
• 1577[16:56:22] <onpora> jmcnaught, yes
• 1578[16:56:56] <jmcnaught> Does recording the monitor work? This should record desktop audio.
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• 1580[16:57:22] <onpora> jmcnaught, you mean recording the desktop session?
• 1581[16:57:52] <jmcnaught> Yeah, just curious because if that doesn't work it indicates the problem is with PulseAudio and not the microphone hardware.
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• 1584[16:58:14] <onpora> let me check
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• 1586[16:58:51] <karlpinc> Does "recording the desktop session" mean that, say, the audio would be recorded when playing back streamed video? Or just what would get recorded?
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• 1588[16:59:37] <jmcnaught> Yeah, it should mean that if you're playing a video for example that the audio from the video is recorded.
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• 1590[17:00:30] <dashs> Trying to resuscitate apt on a stretch system. In the past built mythtv with some hinky outside scripts then erased them. Now apt insists on finding them to accomplish an update.
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• 1592[17:01:03] <dashs> Be I hosed?
• 1593[17:01:49] <jmcnaught> dashs: you can problem fix it. Can you show us the command(s) you're using and the output on replaced-url
• 1594[17:01:57] <jmcnaught> ^problem^probably
• 1595[17:02:11] <onpora> jmcnaught, yes, the audio from the video is recorded
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• 1598[17:03:04] <onpora> so I have a troubled microphone?
• 1599[17:03:51] <jmcnaught> onpora: okay that's good news. Could you make a paste of "amixer -c 1 contents" (the -c is for card number, your card might not be number 1… alsamixer can tell you if you press F6).
• 1600[17:05:20] <dka> an Adtrust cert just expired today
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• 1602[17:05:35] <dka> this cause issue in many places, like in my CI
• 1603[17:06:55] <onpora> jmcnaught, sure, here it is replaced-url
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• 1611[17:11:19] <dashs> jmcnaught: thanks. think I have expunged it from lists and sources.lists.d
• 1612[17:12:50] <jmcnaught> onpora: I don't see anything disabled there that should be enabled. It sounds like you've already looked in alsamixer and tried toggling any mic or input related switched.
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• 1614[17:15:29] <onpora> jmcnaught, yes, I tried to activate anything that I saw might relate to the mic
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• 1617[17:19:03] <jmcnaught> onpora: It might be worth trying to see if arecord can record anything directly from ALSA but I don't really think this is a PulseAudio issue.
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• 1619[17:20:19] <onpora> jmcnaught, how can I test that?
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• 1624[17:23:57] <karlpinc> onpora: I don't know sound but I suppose it's possible that the problem isin firmware. You could check dmesg and /var/log/syslog for kernel messages about firmware. Unless you installed with the unofficial netinstall with non-free firmware included.
• 1625[17:24:03] <karlpinc> !alsa firmware
• 1626[17:24:03] <dpkg> Firmware from userspace is required by the Cirrus Logic Sound Fusion CS46XX (snd-cs46xx), Echo Digital Audio series, ESS Allegro/Maestro3 (snd-maestro3), Korg 1212 I/O (snd-korg1212) and Yamaha YMF (snd-ymfpci) ALSA drivers. Ask me about <cs46xx>, <echoaudio>, <maestro3>, <korg1212> or <ymfpci> respectively. For E-MU Digital Audio Systems devices, ask me about <emu10k1>.
• 1627[17:25:04] <karlpinc> onpora: Perhaps (?), you just use the "arecord" program and it talks directly with alsa? Just guessing here.
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• 1630[17:26:13] <onpora> karlpinc, yes, I did netinstall
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• 1632[17:26:26] <karlpinc> !firmware images
• 1633[17:26:26] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available from replaced-url
• 1634[17:26:31] <onpora> downloaded from debian website
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• 1636[17:27:00] <karlpinc> onpora: Then you probably used the official installer and have to install non-free firmware yourself.
• 1637[17:27:05] <jmcnaught> onpora: It looks like you'll need to run "arecord -L" to view available PCM names. You select the device by name with "-D <name>". You'll need PulseAudio to be stopped when you test this.
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• 1639[17:28:45] <karlpinc> onpora: Now that you're installed, you enable the non-free repos and can use apt (etc.) to install the non-free firmware packages you need -- if you need them.
• 1640[17:29:37] <onpora> ah
• 1641[17:30:09] <onpora> karlpinc, I just checked sources.list and saw that I have non-free not enabled..I thought it was.
• 1642[17:30:19] <onpora> but then how do I have wifi?
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• 1644[17:31:02] <onpora> I will add them and see if firmware gets installed and the problem solved
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• 1646[17:32:04] <jmcnaught> onpora: another thing it could be is the ALSA module identifying your sound card as the wrong model. I know this can happen with HDA Intel audio. You can specify a model in a file in /etc/modprobe.d/… There's a Ubuntu wiki article here about it: replaced-url
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• 1648[17:32:11] <jmcnaught> latest ALSA drivers from source.
• 1649[17:33:33] <onpora> ok, one line of non-free was added (unlike the usual complete 6 lines) in sources.list..probably that's why I have wifi
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• 1651[17:34:21] <jmcnaught> onpora: if "journalctl | grep -i firmware" doesn't show messages about missing firmwares then firmware probably isn't the issue.
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• 1654[17:38:29] <onpora> jmcnaught, there is no message about missing firmware in the output
• 1655[17:40:01] <jmcnaught> onpora: the two avenues left that I can think of are trying to record with arecord (without PulseAudio running), and the HDA model issue discussed in that Ubuntu wiki page I linked.
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• 1658[17:40:32] <onpora> jmcnaught, I am viewing it now
• 1659[17:40:38] <jmcnaught> onpora: obviously there could be more things that I can't think of so maybe someone else will have ideas if you keep working away at it.
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• 1661[17:41:30] <onpora> sure, if anyone has other ideas, they are most welcome
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• 1663[17:41:53] <onpora> btw, did I have to reboot after updating the sources.list?
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• 1665[17:42:06] <onpora> perhaps for any new installation to work
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• 1667[17:42:08] <jmcnaught> onpora: no need to reboot for that. If you updated it then "apt update"
• 1668[17:42:22] <onpora> ok
• 1669[17:42:49] <jmcnaught> onpora: simply changing sources.list won't install anything new, it just changes which packages are available.
• 1670[17:43:59] <jmcnaught> onpora: I hope you figure it out :) I'll probably be on a call in a little bit but feel free to highlight me and I'll try to respond.
• 1671[17:45:37] <onpora> jmcnaught, sure, thank you very much
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• 1677[17:46:28] <onpora> I will also reboot in order to check bios setting again
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• 1680[17:47:43] <onpora> brb!
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• 1684[17:50:51] <Deano59> petn-randall: you around?
• 1685[17:51:30] <Deano59> it seems the vpn still isn't working :(
• 1686[17:51:41] <Deano59> bash works but nm; nope.
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• 1690[17:54:45] <onpora> jmcnaught, karlpinc, it works! as I suspected, I had to fully shutdown after having changed the said bios settings, whereas I had restarted without shutdown.
• 1691[17:54:56] <onpora> gosh
• 1692[17:55:04] <jmcnaught> onpora: heh, well glad you got it working :)
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• 1694[17:55:52] <onpora> jmcnaught, thank you, sorry for keeping you busy for over an hour
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• 1696[17:56:30] <jmcnaught> onpora: no need to apologize
• 1697[17:56:33] <onpora> I suspected that, had I only checked bios information earlier
• 1698[17:57:01] <jmcnaught> One should be able to expect changes in BIOS to apply.
• 1699[17:57:33] <Deano59> can anyone help me getting openvpn via Networkmanager working? it doesn't show my vpn IP and only shows my ISP ip.
• 1700[17:57:54] <onpora> it was explicitly written in the details section that a shutdown was required, but I hastily enabled it and left bios
• 1701[18:00:15] <Deano59> ?
• 1702[18:00:21] <petn-randall> Deano59: Last night there was the issue that your default route got overwritten. You need to find out why that happens.
• 1703[18:01:00] <petn-randall> Deano59: Maybe you're running dhclient by hand? Or have other network interfaces configured of /etc/network/interfaces?
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• 1705[18:01:05] <Deano59> how and what do I check?
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• 1708[18:01:41] <onpora> jmcnaught, thank you very much again, have to leave now
• 1709[18:01:50] <onpora> till soon!
• 1710[18:01:58] <petn-randall> Deano59: Do you have other interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces?
• 1711[18:01:59] <Deano59> petn-randall: replaced-url
• 1712[18:02:26] <petn-randall> Deano59: Ok, that's the file? Do you have other files in /etc/network/interfaces.d/*?
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• 1715[18:03:04] <Deano59> nope
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• 1717[18:03:09] <Deano59> it's empty
• 1718[18:03:32] <petn-randall> Deano59: Ok, start the openvpn via n-m, then remove the default routes again, like yesterday.
• 1719[18:03:35] <Deano59> in /etc/network I have if-down.d if-post-down.d if-pre-up.d if-up.d interfaces interfaces.d
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• 1722[18:06:37] <mtcocktail> Hello
• 1723[18:07:04] <velix> apt install kebap
• 1724[18:07:08] <velix> I'm hungry :(
• 1725[18:07:13] <mtcocktail> I'm search a debian notice about sectigo CA expired (same of replaced-url
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• 1727[18:07:38] <Deano59> velix: /join #debian-offtopic
• 1728[18:08:06] <Deano59> petn-randall: I deleted them, verified they're deleted and it's the same.
• 1729[18:08:06] <velix> Deano59: `apt install` is Debian.
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• 1731[18:08:28] <Deano59> velix: /join #debian-offtopic
• 1732[18:08:37] <mtcocktail> Comodo CA has expired of 30 May and i've testing update-ca-certificate but it doesn't work
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• 1734[18:09:28] <Deano59> brb
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• 1739[18:12:22] <jmcnaught> mtcocktail: if there is a Debian Security Advisory about this, then it would be at replaced-url
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• 1742[18:13:28] <Deano59> petn-randall: yeah no idea what's causing it.
• 1743[18:13:59] <Deano59> I'm connected right now but curl icanhazip.com still showing ISP ip. I also tried another vpn provider and it's the same. :/
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• 1749[18:18:03] <mtcocktail> jmcnaught: Thanks. I hope anyone have post this problem
• 1750[18:18:06] <mtcocktail> :)
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• 1754[18:19:26] <jmcnaught> mtcocktail: you can also look here to see if there are bug reports about it: replaced-url
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• 1760[18:27:19] <somiaj> mtcocktail: there was some well know certs that expired and are just old, what software are you using that is still using the old cert (The info I have been given is to disable the use of that cert -- assuming it is the same one that expired May 30, 2020. Here is a universities info on this replaced-url
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• 1763[18:30:05] <somiaj> mtcocktail: But I think that is what you are running into, might want to check what legacy clients are still using that cert.
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• 1766[18:35:15] <Deano59> petn-randall: what should I do?
• 1767[18:36:00] <petn-randall> Deano59: Still do what I said, and send me the excerpt from the commands you ran and the output of `ip route`.
• 1768[18:36:12] <Deano59> what did you sau?
• 1769[18:36:14] <Deano59> say*
• 1770[18:36:35] <mtcocktail> somiaj: yes but All web service with https are down. This morning Payplug payment system are down
• 1771[18:37:23] <petn-randall> Deano59: Scroll up and read it again.
• 1772[18:37:27] <Deano59> petn-randall: I even re-installed NM and it's done the same.
• 1773[18:37:37] <Deano59> replaced-url
• 1774[18:37:39] <somiaj> mtcocktail: And this is on buster? I haven't checked my systems, but wonder why your client is trying to use a legacy cert.
• 1775[18:37:51] <mtcocktail> i've see this replaced-url
• 1776[18:38:10] <Deano59> <petn-randall> Deano59: Maybe you're running dhclient by hand? how do I know if I am?
• 1777[18:38:28] <mtcocktail> i've don't check on buster
• 1778[18:38:30] <somiaj> mtcocktail: Are you running stretch?
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• 1781[18:38:37] <petn-randall> Deano59: Well, did you run `dhclient` by hand or not? It's not rocket science.
• 1782[18:38:38] <Deano59> only thing I have from dhclient is isc-dhcp-common
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• 1784[18:38:44] <Deano59> no.
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• 1787[18:39:52] <petn-randall> Deano59: Ok, on last time: Start openvpn via n-m, then run `ip route del default via 192.168.1.1` twice, then `ip route`. Copy all commands and output to replaced-url
• 1788[18:39:58] <mtcocktail> The sae with amazon linux ami :D (replaced-url
• 1789[18:39:59] <somiaj> mtcocktail: anyways looks like that link has a solution for stretch, you just need to remove the cert, as it appears the bug is in openssl 1.0.2 which stretch uses.
• 1790[18:40:13] <somiaj> mtcocktail: but you didn't answer, are you running buster or stretch?
• 1791[18:41:44] <Deano59> petn-randall: that command does nothing. doesn't delete.
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• 1793[18:42:26] <Deano59> ip route del 192.168.1.1 however works.
• 1794[18:42:36] <Deano59> then it says RTNETLINK answers: No such process
• 1795[18:43:29] <Deano59> here is IP route replaced-url
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• 1797[18:45:37] <petn-randall> Deano59: I honestly don't think we'll get anywhere with debugging this issue if you just send me parts of what I asked for.
• 1798[18:45:56] <Deano59> huh?
• 1799[18:46:05] <petn-randall> This is going very slow right now due to the fact that you're doing random things and not following what I'm asking for.
• 1800[18:46:13] <Deano59> huh?
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• 1802[18:46:28] <Deano59> I'm trying; the command you gave doesn't delete anything.
• 1803[18:46:32] <petn-randall> Deano59: Ok, on last time: Start openvpn via n-m, then run `ip route del default via 192.168.1.1` twice, then `ip route`. Copy all commands and output to replaced-url
• 1804[18:46:48] <Deano59> <Deano59> petn-randall: that command does nothing. doesn't delete.
• 1805[18:46:53] <petn-randall> Deano59: ^^^ All I see is `ip route`, you left everything else out.
• 1806[18:46:58] <Deano59> see above.
• 1807[18:47:25] <Deano59> <Deano59> petn-randall: that command does nothing. doesn't delete.
• 1808[18:47:59] <petn-randall> Sure, but I have no clue what the output of all other commands is.
• 1809[18:48:10] <Deano59> huh?
• 1810[18:48:31] <petn-randall> And if you'd paste it to that site I'd see if you're running it as root or not, or whatever else the issue is.
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• 1813[18:49:09] <Deano59> `ip route del default via 192.168.1.1` does NOT work. simple. it didn't work so I couldn't "paste" anything. so I pasted ip route.
• 1814[18:49:23] <petn-randall> !doesnt work
• 1815[18:49:23] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
• 1816[18:49:33] <Deano59> really?
• 1817[18:50:01] <Deano59> it doesn't work. it doesn't delete anything. I said this already. it does NOT delete anything and goes straight to the next line.
• 1818[18:50:41] <petn-randall> Deano59: And this would have been clear if you have just posted it as I said. Instead we spent 10 minutes discussing and 20 lines of IRC. This isn't effective.
• 1819[18:51:10] <Deano59> what the hell are you on about? I told you the command didn't work ages ago.
• 1820[18:51:14] <petn-randall> I've got some other stuff to work on, sorry. Maybe someone else can pick it up from here.
• 1821[18:51:33] <mtcocktail> somiaj: yes i'm using strech
• 1822[18:51:33] <Deano59> lmao
• 1823[18:51:52] <mtcocktail> somiaj: sorry for response time … :)
• 1824[18:52:17] <Deano59> get off your high horse, petn-randall. I'm done, Buster is suppose to be "stable" hahahaha
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• 1827[18:54:16] <somiaj> mtcocktail: maybe a bug should be reported, but appears to be an issue with stretch not properly handeling this, and removing the cert seems to be the best suggestion I've seen
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• 1829[18:54:43] <tds> Deano59: can you pastebin `ip route` output before and after running the ip route del... command, full output of the ip route del... command running under strace, and `ip monitor route` output if you leave it running while deleting the route?
• 1830[18:55:07] <tds> oh, they left
• 1831[18:55:08] <petn-randall> tds: They left.
• 1832[18:55:11] <petn-randall> :)
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• 1834[18:56:41] <mtcocktail> somiaj: yes thanks i'm cheked this and try to add new cert on old debian … Jessie…
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• 1836[18:58:49] <somiaj> mtcocktail: the suggestion I see dont' say add a new cert, they just say remove the old one that doesn't work.
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• 1883[19:52:24] <Deano59> can someone please assist me in getting network-manager and openvpn working on Debian buster? things I've tried; deleting the route(s). changing ifupdown. changing to netplan. changing the "allow this connection for this network only" google is saying it's an old bug that STILL has not been fixed!!
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• 1892[20:01:24] <tds> ...and they left again, great
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• 1906[20:11:39] <Maizum> hi all
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• 1917[20:24:29] <Maizum> how can i install youtube-viewer cant see it on repositorys
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• 1919[20:25:45] <annadane> does it have a github? it probably has compilation instructions
• 1920[20:25:53] <annadane> ,v youtube-viewer
• 1921[20:25:55] <judd> No package named 'youtube-viewer' was found in amd64.
• 1922[20:26:18] <Maizum> mps-youtube instead
• 1923[20:26:33] <Mathisen> mps is not in buster is it
• 1924[20:26:44] <Mathisen> ,v mps-youtube
• 1925[20:26:45] <judd> Package: mps-youtube on amd64 -- jessie: 0.01.46-3; sid: 0.2.7.1-2; stretch: 0.2.7.1-2
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• 1931[20:29:50] <Maizum> im new on debian,i know its possible install mps-youtuber
• 1932[20:29:54] <Maizum> i dont know how
• 1933[20:30:15] <Maizum> maybe i need to add some rep
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• 1944[20:33:37] <Maizum> is it possible install jessie packages on buster?
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• 1947[20:34:56] <annadane> you can typically install older release packages on newer releases but not vice versa
• 1948[20:34:59] <annadane> AFAIU
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• 1951[20:35:55] <Maizum> ok
• 1952[20:36:29] <annadane> although you probably want the one from stretch, it's newer than jessie's
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• 1959[20:37:29] <sney> yeah, looks like it just depends on python3 and mpv/ffmpeg so that will *probably* install replaced-url
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• 1961[20:38:30] <sney> however it might not work. tracker lists several serious bugs
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• 1963[20:38:47] <sney> ah. almost definitely won't work. replaced-url
• 1964[20:38:48] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 1965[20:38:57] <Maizum> how do u search videos on youtube from terminal?
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• 1968[20:39:23] <Maizum> u can add api to mps
• 1969[20:39:29] <Maizum> no problem
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• 1972[20:40:36] <Maizum> the only bug i know its with mplayer but i can use mpv instead
• 1973[20:42:03] <karlpinc> ,checkbackports mps-youtube
• 1974[20:42:15] <sney> no s
• 1975[20:42:26] <karlpinc> ,checkbackport mps-youtube
• 1976[20:42:28] <judd> Backporting package mps-youtube in sid→buster/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using buster.
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• 1978[20:43:01] <petn-randall> !ssb
• 1979[20:43:01] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
• 1980[20:43:19] <petn-randall> Maizum: You can backup mps-youtube yourself from sid. See the instructions above. ^^^
• 1981[20:43:30] <Maizum> ok thank u
• 1982[20:43:32] <karlpinc> Maizum: So, you could self-backport from sid. That's likely to give you the best results.
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• 1985[20:44:01] <sney> the bug reports listed on tracker also show a ftbfs with python 3.6 and various other issues though, so look at this page and see the reasons that it was removed from testing in 2017, they may apply to you. replaced-url
• 1986[20:44:29] <sney> one of those bug reports says a newer upstream version has some issues fixed, so adding uupdate to the ssb procedure might do the trick
• 1987[20:45:28] <sney> (ftbfs means failure to build from source, which will affect anyone trying to rebuild the package)
• 1988[20:45:33] <Maizum> minitube doesnt work on debian too old cant add api
• 1989[20:45:43] <karlpinc> ,versions mps-youtube
• 1990[20:45:45] <judd> Package: mps-youtube on amd64 -- jessie: 0.01.46-3; sid: 0.2.7.1-2; stretch: 0.2.7.1-2
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• 1992[20:46:49] <karlpinc> sney: How is it that a package stays in sid when removed from testing? Is it that the maintainer expects it to be fixed, at some point?
• 1993[20:47:29] <sney> karlpinc: basically, though it could also be that they forgot
• 1994[20:47:50] <sney> the procedures for removing something from testing before a release are separate from the procedure for removing a package from debian entirely
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• 1996[20:50:45] <Maizum> ok thanks for all
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• 1999[20:53:04] <petn-randall> karlpinc: If there are RC bugs in a package it will get removed from testing after some time when this RC bug is not fixed. If it's fixed, the package will migrate to testing after (usually) 5 days. Removing from sid is a manual procedure and needs some justification. There are a few packages that have been in sid for years but aren't in testing.
• 2000[20:53:10] <petn-randall> (firefox for example)
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• 2004[20:56:37] <karlpinc> Thanks all.
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• 2065[22:09:22] <LordEdgar> hello am using a debian 9 i have an error with my gpt partition twas working before but kinda messed & i have important stuffs on it ... any help?
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• 2068[22:11:09] <petn-randall> Hi LordEdgar, what error do you get when doing what?
• 2069[22:12:12] <LordEdgar> errors from my backup gpt partition when i checked gparted
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• 2073[22:12:44] <LordEdgar> tis an encrypted partition
• 2074[22:12:45] <petn-randall> LordEdgar: Ok. Does gparted offer you any way to fix this?
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• 2076[22:13:27] <LordEdgar> i check the normal fix but does not work but the other seperate partition goes ok
• 2077[22:15:18] <LordEdgar> d other issue i think is the partitiom gets decrypted but due to some trouble of gpt ... i also checked stackoverflow didn't get much help
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• 2153[23:50:38] <JYPDWhite> Hi all, short question. When I have used additional repositorys and added then to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. Now I want to remove this package source. How can I guarantee that there is no package left from this source?
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• 2155[23:52:49] <netvixtra> JYPDWhite: ppa-purge would do the trick
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• 2158[23:55:29] <JYPDWhite> netvixtra: when I read that correctly it only removes or better replaces packages with the version which is in the remainging ppas. I'm looking for a way to check if there is any package still installed originating from the "ppa" that I want to remove.
• 2159[23:57:58] <mesaboogie> JYPDWhite: install synaptic and choose the "origin" button. good luck.
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• 2161[23:59:12] <mesaboogie> JYPDWhite: that will list all installed packages sorted by ppa's
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