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25[00:12:07] <randoking> Hi all, Anyone able to answer a PSAD
question?
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33[00:14:48] <MrKeuner> TomTomTosch, couldn't locate a
dash manual either
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34[00:14:58] <jelly> MrKeuner: "man dash"
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38[00:15:20] <jelly> there is no mention of "array"
in there
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39[00:16:11] <jelly> MrKeuner: if that does not work on your
debian installation, the installation is crippled or broken or very,
very old
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42[00:16:40] <MrKeuner> jelly, thanks but not too old, it is
the previoud stable
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45[00:16:55] <jelly> !debian suite
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46[00:16:55] <dpkg> cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release
-sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the
distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab
almost all distributions.
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48[00:17:05] <jelly> MrKeuner: what does "lsb_release
-sc" say?
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49[00:17:25] <MrKeuner> jelly, wheezy
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51[00:17:36] <jelly> righto
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52[00:17:54] <jelly> well, if you need ksh or bash features,
use ksh or bash
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55[00:18:15] <jelly> ,v mksh
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56[00:18:16] <judd> Package: mksh on amd64 -- squeeze:
39.3.20100725-1; squeeze-backports: 40.4-2~bpo60+1; wheezy:
40.9.20120630-7; wheezy-backports: 50d-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 50d-5;
wheezy-backports-sloppy: 52c-1~bpo7+1; jessie-backports:
52c-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 52c-2; sid: 52c-2; experimental: 52c-2exp3
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57[00:18:40] <MrKeuner> jelly, one of these days I'll
sqitch to python for my system scripts
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58[00:19:07] <awal1> TomTomTosch, obvious, yeah (impossible to
have a system without a root account). Is the root passwd which
isn't created when enabling sudo at install time. Never used
sudo, so I got a bit confused :P
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60[00:19:40] <randoking> Anyone know why PSAD auto blocks my
openvpn connections?
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61[00:20:18] <jelly> !psad
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64[00:20:52] <jelly> the bot does not know what that is
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65[00:21:06] <randoking> Its cool thanks though man
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245[01:31:25] <iggyZiggy> hello, just bought new laptop and my
wireless card is not detected, any advice what to do?
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249[01:33:22] <sm00th> iggyZiggy, what model wireless card is
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254[01:35:17] <sm00th> iggyZiggy, find it with lspci command
from terminal
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255[01:35:22] <sm00th> or lspci | grep wirless
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256[01:35:40] <sm00th> *Wireless
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257[01:35:40] <iggyZiggy> trying to google it but can't
find any info online, lspci -v | grep -iA 7 network comman returns
Qualcomm Atheros Device 003e (rev 32), no kernel data
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259[01:35:55] <sm00th> thats the wirless one?
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261[01:36:27] <iggyZiggy> that's the only one i get
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262[01:36:45] <iggyZiggy> i'll try wireless but i think it
will return empty, sec
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263[01:37:15] <iggyZiggy> lspci | grep wireless = nothing
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264[01:37:25] <sm00th> googling lol
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265[01:37:37] <sm00th> seeing if there is some firmware you have
to install for it
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266[01:37:51] <iggyZiggy> model is acer predator g9-791 if it
helps
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270[01:38:16] <sm00th> iggyZiggy, did you try to install
firmware-atheros?
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273[01:38:25] <sm00th> ok wait
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274[01:38:33] <sm00th> you might need newer kernel too i'm
looking at this page.
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275[01:38:42] <sm00th>
replaced-url
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276[01:39:01] <sm00th> well try to install that firmware package
and see what happens I guess
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278[01:39:10] <sm00th> udo apt-get install firmware-atheros
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280[01:39:55] <iggyZiggy> yeah i think this is it
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282[01:40:11] <iggyZiggy> i think it's killer 2400
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287[01:41:12] <iggyZiggy> can't get ethernet or wireless
drivers to work, i'm stuck with transefring everything from old
laptop with usb
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288[01:41:20] <sm00th> oh right lol
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290[01:41:22] <sm00th> dam
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291[01:41:32] <sm00th> oh ok at least you got a laptop handy
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292[01:41:40] <iggyZiggy> :)
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294[01:42:53] <sm00th> hmm its saying the killer e2400 is not
supported yet. but that was as of kernel 4.3 so maybe now it is.
dunno.
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296[01:43:07] <sm00th> oh it can still be made to work though
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297[01:43:32] <sm00th> I think jessie-backports has the 4.5
kernel.
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299[01:43:45] <sm00th> I would try that and the firmware-atheros
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300[01:43:58] <LtL> iggyZiggy: can you give us the hex
identifier for that? lspci -nn
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303[01:45:25] <iggyZiggy> 168c:003e
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304[01:45:41] <LtL> ,pciid 168c:003e
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305[01:45:42] <judd> [168c:003e] is 'QCA6174 802.11ac
Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Qualcomm Atheros'
with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also
replaced-url
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307[01:45:59] <LtL> i didn't think so
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308[01:46:18] <iggyZiggy> pciid command not found
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310[01:47:02] <iggyZiggy> judd this seems like a bad news
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314[01:47:58] <LtL> if it's not in sid i doubt
jessie-backports has it. possibly the newer 4.x.x kernel though
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319[01:49:29] <LtL> i have a 'killer' and i had to buy
a different pci card for it
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320[01:49:50] <iggyZiggy> :(
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323[01:50:22] <LtL> the upside is theyre cheap
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324[01:50:37] <iggyZiggy> god damn expensive and new laptops,
bought this one because of no support for ati (on my current laptop)
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333[01:51:56] <iggyZiggy> is there anything i can do?
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335[01:52:46] <LtL> iggyZiggy: i assume thats an onboard
ethernet yes? buy a decent PCIe card
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336[01:53:01] <Akuw> i upgrade from wheeze to jessie, i have 2
kernels in /boot vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-686-pae and
vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-686-pae
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337[01:53:12] <iggyZiggy> i don't really need ethernet,
wireless is all i need
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339[01:53:14] <sm00th> LtL, but this page says it can be done
replaced-url
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340[01:53:20] <Akuw> but uname show Linux wiki 3.2.0-4-686-pae
#1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux
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342[01:53:49] <Akuw> how can i do so debian use
vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel ?
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343[01:55:06] <LtL> Akuw: at your login screen you should have
an options tab
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347[01:55:33] <aaaaaaaaaa> whats the easiest way to append a png
header to a png file whose header was removed?
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348[01:55:40] <LtL> it should be using it. dunno why not
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349[01:55:51] <Akuw> LtL: just get a life
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350[01:56:09] <LtL> Akuw: excuse me?
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351[01:56:20] <Akuw> i am serious
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352[01:56:35] <LtL> Akuw: who are you
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357[01:57:29] <LtL> Akuw: sorry if i pissed on your corn flakes
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358[01:57:49] <iggyZiggy> just chill and explain to me how to
install new kernel from usb :D
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359[01:58:05] <sm00th> lol
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360[01:58:14] <awal1> Akuw, 3.16 should be listed as the first
entry in grub but running again as root update-initramfs -u and
update-grub may be helpful , they should have been run when
upgrading but who knows if something has gone wrong
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361[01:58:17] <sm00th> iggyZiggy, i'm not exactly sure man
but keep asking someone will know.
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362[01:58:23] <Akuw> if you don't want to help just
don't do
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363[01:58:44] <iggyZiggy> i'm googling but it's mostly
trough repos
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364[01:59:04] <sm00th> iggyZiggy, ya i have no clue. maybe you
can download from the website a .deb file
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365[01:59:08] <sm00th> for kernel and header file.
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368[02:00:19] <sm00th> not sure if there is dependencies you
will also need. this is a good question though lol
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372[02:00:39] <Akuw> when run update-grub i got
replaced-url
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375[02:01:28] <sm00th> iggyZiggy,
replaced-url
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379[02:03:16] <awal1> Akuw, not really good about grub stuff but
you may want to reinstall grub
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380[02:03:41] <sm00th> iggyZiggy, last suggestion look the
easiest.
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383[02:04:29] <awal1> Akum, seems like your system is not fully
up-to-date?
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387[02:06:04] <Akuw> is up to date
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388[02:06:25] <Akuw> i just reinstall grub2 but got same message
when try to update-grub
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392[02:08:28] <sm00th> tks for reminding me to update
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393[02:08:49] <sm00th> oh and it updating the kernel lmao
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394[02:09:09] <awal1> grub-install /dev/sda
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397[02:09:22] <awal1> Akuw, ^
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398[02:09:35] <Akuw> doing it
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399[02:10:07] <awal1> change sda if you want it in another
location
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400[02:10:13] <Akuw> no problems to do
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401[02:10:23] <sm00th> bbiab
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403[02:10:33] <Akuw> but same problem to update-grub
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411[02:14:33] <cesurasean2> hey guys, im trying to mount a drive
with google cloud, and i do as they say to do; sudo mount -o
discard,defaults /dev/disk/by-id/google-[DISK_NAME]
/mnt/disks/[MNT_DIR]
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413[02:14:35] <cesurasean2> but it wont mount
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414[02:14:43] <cmtptr> does anyone else notice that their
mousewheel doesn't scroll in wireshark on jessie?
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416[02:14:58] <cesurasean2> mount: wrong fs type, bad option,
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418[02:15:24] <cesurasean2> i checked with fsck ,and the disk
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419[02:16:37] <x86iac> cesurasean2: where is the google cloud?
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420[02:16:50] <cesurasean2> cloud.google.com?
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421[02:17:23] <x86iac> you are mounting something on your local
computer /dev/......
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422[02:17:30] <cesurasean2> i suspect the drive is encrypted
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427[02:18:46] <awal1>
replaced-url
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428[02:18:48] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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429[02:18:53] <awal1> Akuw, ^
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435[02:21:47] <iggyZiggy> sm00th: thank you, i'll give it a
shot :)
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454[02:28:06] <iggyZiggy> searching for linux-image and i got
results for 4.2 and 4.4, on web it says 4.3 is experimental, will
4.4 do?
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484[02:43:18] <TomTomTosch> iggyZiggy: you will need the
firmware-atheros from jessie-backports.
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485[02:43:56] <TomTomTosch> iggyZiggy: your card is listed in
the supported devices.
replaced-url
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487[02:44:21] <iggyZiggy> progress, nice!
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488[02:44:23] <iggyZiggy> :D
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496[02:47:48] <iggyZiggy> alright, i've downloaded
firware-atheros.deb, copied it to other laptop, dpkg -i it, what
now?
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497[02:48:22] <x86iac> modprobe atheros ?
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498[02:48:37] <x86iac> and check /var/log/messages for errors
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504[02:50:27] <iggyZiggy> well... maybe i did something wrong
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506[02:50:47] <iggyZiggy> fatal: module atheros not found
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511[02:51:24] <iggyZiggy> and got 3 errors, 2 are usb and 1 is
gnome session
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512[02:52:49] <x86iac> modprobe ath9k ?
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513[02:52:52] <iggyZiggy> when i dpkg -i atheros... i get
unpacking... and setting up firmware-atheros (0.43)
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514[02:53:10] <iggyZiggy> nothing
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515[02:53:31] <iggyZiggy> just a new line
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517[02:53:53] <iggyZiggy> hey hey hey
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518[02:54:11] <iggyZiggy> got something in messages
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520[02:54:20] <TomTomTosch> i think the module way ath10k or
ath10k_pci not sure.
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521[02:54:33] <iggyZiggy> bunch of KHz
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523[02:55:28] <x86iac>
replaced-url
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526[02:56:25] <iggyZiggy> nope, still no wireless
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529[02:56:44] <iggyZiggy> x86iac, which one should i download?
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530[02:56:58] <TomTomTosch> iggyZiggy: if you type lspci -k,
what module is loaded for your card?
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532[02:58:17] <iggyZiggy> got a bunch of them, i guess
you're interested in Qualcomm Aheros Device 003e (rev 32)
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533[02:58:52] <TomTomTosch> yes, your *wifi* card
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535[02:59:26] <iggyZiggy> judd asked for hex and copied this
after that
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536[02:59:28] <iggyZiggy> [168c:003e] is 'QCA6174 802.11ac
Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Qualcomm Atheros'
with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also
replaced-url
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539[03:00:33] <TomTomTosch> i would like to know which kernel
module is loaded for your wifi card. you can see it if you type
lspci -k the line is 'Kernel driver in use:'
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542[03:01:09] <TomTomTosch> so it's blank?
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543[03:01:38] <x86iac> lsmod
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544[03:02:16] <LtL> iggyZiggy: i didn't read you right,
sorry about that, thought you meant ethernet card not wifi
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545[03:02:28] <x86iac> ath10k is for that adapter
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549[03:02:43] <iggyZiggy> yes, blank
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550[03:02:58] <iggyZiggy> LtL ethernet doesn't work either
:D
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551[03:03:09] <iggyZiggy> it's some killer e2400
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553[03:03:20] <x86iac> did you install the debian with the
wireless plugged in?
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554[03:03:32] <TomTomTosch> and what exactly does (as root)
modprobe -v ath10k_pci say?
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557[03:04:13] <RayzrShrp> does the wget package in jessie not
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558[03:04:14] <x86iac> yea you have to be root for this
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560[03:04:28] <RayzrShrp> wget wordpress no longer works and now
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561[03:04:50] <iggyZiggy> i'm root
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562[03:04:57] <iggyZiggy> sec for modprobe
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564[03:06:16] <iggyZiggy> too long to write, got 2 lines
starting with insmod and a path to ath10k core and pci files
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566[03:06:35] <iggyZiggy> .ko
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568[03:07:16] <TomTomTosch> so it errors out and lspci -k is
still blank for the kernel module of your card?
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569[03:07:20] <iggyZiggy> 3.16.0-4-amd64
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571[03:08:56] <iggyZiggy> got just network controller and below
that subsystem: Bigfoot networks, Inc. Device 1535, no "kernel
in use"
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574[03:09:44] <DebianNewbie> Hello everyone
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575[03:09:54] <DebianNewbie> I'm new to the sys admin stuff
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576[03:09:55] <iggyZiggy> hello my fellow newbie
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577[03:10:01] <DebianNewbie> I'm using Debian 8 jessie
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579[03:10:42] <DebianNewbie> Is there a way to track incoming
connection a in router machine?
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580[03:10:56] <x86iac> log them?
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586[03:13:03] <DebianNewbie> For example an incoming connection
comes from eth0 randomIPhere and wants to use port 80. I use nat and
pre routing to redirect it towards an ip and another port
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587[03:13:18] <DebianNewbie> But for some reason it doesn't
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591[03:14:07] <TomTomTosch> iggyZiggy: sry, it's hard for
me to help as i never had the displeasure to work with that model of
wifi card and there is little to no documentation on this. if you
don't get it fixed now you could try again later, maybe you
will catch someone who has a better idea.
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596[03:14:57] <Akuw> is there any software to rcord video using
my webcam?
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600[03:16:57] <iggyZiggy> i think i messed something up very
badly
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602[03:17:19] <brimonk> Hey all. Question: if I define
interfaces within /etc/network/interfaces , shouldn't my
interfaces be updated within ip link show and ifconfig and so on?
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603[03:17:29] <iggyZiggy> looks like i did upgrade kernel to 4.4
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605[03:17:58] <iggyZiggy> and now my speakers (i hope to god
that was speaker) made a noise like something burned
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609[03:18:25] <iggyZiggy> dmesg is full of evbug errors
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610[03:18:35] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy:
replaced-url
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616[03:19:44] <iggyZiggy> jmcnaught: can you walk me trough it?
looks like i made some damage on my own :D
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617[03:19:45] <jmcnaught> brimonk: have you changed the
interfaces file since the last boot?
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618[03:20:13] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: i don't know
everything you've done so far, i sorta scanned the backlog
looking for the pciid message from judd
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621[03:20:51] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: but you can check which
kernel you're using with "uname -a"
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622[03:21:01] <iggyZiggy> i have followed some stackoverflow
answer and downloaded linux image 4.4 and dpkg -i it
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623[03:21:10] <iggyZiggy> yup, it's 4.4
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625[03:21:22] <brimonk> jmcnaught: Yes, I have.
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626[03:21:25] <jmcnaught> !tell iggyZiggy about bdo
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627[03:21:29] <jmcnaught> !tell iggyZiggy about bdo kernel
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628[03:21:56] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: Debian has a backports repo
with newer kernels. does the computer have an ethernet connection
while you work on this?
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629[03:22:01] <TomTomTosch> Akuw: sure, vlc player is one.
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630[03:22:18] <jmcnaught> brimonk: could you show your
interfaces file in a paste?
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633[03:22:40] <awal1> Akuw, I use cheese. does the job fine
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634[03:22:52] <iggyZiggy> nope, can't install ethernet
drivers either, stuck with transfering files with usb
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635[03:23:30] <x86iac> how new is this installation?
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636[03:23:40] <brimonk> jmcnaught: Here it is:
replaced-url
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637[03:23:47] <awal1> also there is guvcview , if you want a non
gnome software
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639[03:23:49] <iggyZiggy> so i guess there's no easy way to
revert back to old kernel?
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642[03:24:15] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: okay. and "lspci -k |
grep -A2 -i net" still shows no kernel driver in use?
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643[03:24:29] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: the old kernel is probably
still there as a boot option in the grub menu
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644[03:25:02] <iggyZiggy> ok i'll revert back to that one,
this one is freaking me out with burning noise :D
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645[03:25:03] <pencilandpaper> iggyZiggy: after installing a new
kernel did your sound go?
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646[03:25:08] <jmcnaught> brimonk: why are you using
allow-hotplug instead of auto?
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648[03:26:07] <brimonk> jmcnaught: user jbeez (I don't
think he's in this room) said that that's what I should
do.
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649[03:26:28] <iggyZiggy> jmcnaught, thank you, got back to
previous kernel
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650[03:27:13] <iggyZiggy> and yes, still no kernel driver in use
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653[03:28:42] <iggyZiggy> maybe i did something wrong, can you
link me the drivers to install? i have tried grabbing drivers from
this machine with apt-get --print-uris and manually downloading ath9
and 10
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655[03:29:29] <brimonk> jmcnaught: But, I can remove it.
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656[03:29:40] <jmcnaught> brimonk: if you want them to come up
at boot i think you should use auto, but it's worth checking
the interfaces(5) man page because i'm a little tired ;)
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657[03:29:57] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: what about when you were
booted in the 4.4 kernel?
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658[03:30:08] <iggyZiggy> pencilandpaper: yes, if you mean my
sound went in some kind of burning mode :D
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660[03:31:01] <iggyZiggy> i'll try again, can't
remember, was too freaked out
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661[03:31:07] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: this is one reason i
usually buy used laptops. they're a little older, have better
driver support in linux. and money.
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662[03:31:43] <iggyZiggy> i really don't want to go on winX
:(
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664[03:32:05] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy:
replaced-url
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667[03:32:20] <pencilandpaper> What do you mean as in burning
mode iggyZiggy ?
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668[03:32:49] <iggyZiggy> like when electronics burn, sound like
that
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669[03:33:17] <iggyZiggy> like when you put 12v in 5v arduino
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670[03:33:22] <pencilandpaper> Did you get the kernel from the
backports?
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671[03:34:30] <iggyZiggy> i have grabbed it with apt-cache
search and later with --print-uris, downloaded to usb and installed
on other laptop
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672[03:34:59] <iggyZiggy> someone said that's the easiest
way
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674[03:35:30] <pencilandpaper> From backports though iggyZiggy ?
(assuming that you are running Jessie?)
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676[03:35:37] <iggyZiggy> oh yeah also wget -c on urls i got
from linux-image-4.4.0-something
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677[03:35:55] <DebianNewbie> Where is the log.conf file in
Debian?
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679[03:36:15] <iggyZiggy> i don't now, how do i get it from
backports?
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681[03:36:20] <iggyZiggy> know*
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684[03:36:46] <pencilandpaper> One sec.
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691[03:37:56] <xed> Anyone know the debian package that would
get me `jar`, the java archive tool?
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694[03:38:28] <abrotman> !apt-file
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695[03:38:29] <dpkg> apt-file is a utility used to find which
package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it
is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file &&
apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to
see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular
expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me
about <pdo>. See also <judd-file>, <auto-apt>,
<dlocate>.
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704[03:40:43] <iggyZiggy> or try apt-cache search java (learned
that today!) :D
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706[03:40:53] <iggyZiggy> so proud
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707[03:41:04] <xed> Installing apt-file now.
Updating..............................
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713[03:42:22] <xed> apt-find find jar | wc -l................
Any guesses?
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714[03:42:32] <xed> 13056
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716[03:42:51] <xed> This is why Google doesn't work.
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721[03:45:01] <CppGuy> Hello everyone, how can I read from the
serial on Linux using C++?
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722[03:45:46] <somiaj> xed: try /usr/bin/jar (if that is the
name of the binary)
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723[03:46:25] <xed> somiaj: the /usr/bin/jar exectuable is not
installed - I can't figure out what package it's in.
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725[03:46:41] <pencilandpaper> If the 4.4 kernel that you have
installed isn't from the jessie backports, go ahead and
uninstall it using synaptic..and completely remove both the kernel
image and the headers..and after you have done so, go root and then
run update-grub in terminal iggyZiggy . Then go and restart. Once
you have done that and are back in the older kernel..go here to get
the backports kernel. ---->
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726[03:46:54] <pencilandpaper> I can't find it right now
iggyZiggy , I'm getting there though. :)
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729[03:47:17] <pencilandpaper> One sec man, I am going to get
you to the linux-image and the linux-headers for kernel 4.4 that is
in the backports if I can find it.
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731[03:48:11] <iggyZiggy> jmcnaught: i have tried to install
4.6+74 but it depends on 4.6.0-0
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733[03:48:23] <iggyZiggy> what about 4.6?
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735[03:49:13] <iggyZiggy> jmcnaught already pasted the link,
i'm just missing one dependency (i guess)
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739[03:49:43] <xed> Gah... I think I found it... `fastjar`
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746[03:51:14] <abrotman> xed: eh, not likely
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748[03:51:53] <xed> abrotman: Why do you say that. I installed
it and now I have a `/usr/bin/jar`
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749[03:51:54] <abrotman> xed: you probably want openjdk
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750[03:51:57] <abrotman> ok
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753[03:52:22] <xed> No. I want to work with the contents of a
jar (the unix way) and then put it back.
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755[03:53:25] <iggyZiggy> so many dependencies...
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757[03:53:32] <pencilandpaper> This is for the kernel-image
----->
replaced-url
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758[03:53:59] <iggyZiggy> no problem pencilman
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759[03:54:14] <iggyZiggy> what do you think about 4.6?
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761[03:54:40] <iggyZiggy> i'm struggling with dependencies,
every time i transfer one file to other machine, something else is
missing
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762[03:55:14] <pencilandpaper> I think that you want to deal
with the kernels from the backports man so that you have the proper
modules, that is why your sound probably isn't working
iggyZiggy .
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764[03:55:34] <pencilandpaper> Honestly, a newer kernel
isn't necessary with Jessie. You natively run a 3.16.
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765[03:55:40] <pencilandpaper> Which isn't that bad.
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767[03:56:17] <pencilandpaper> But if you need that newer kernel
for some reason, then you always want to get that newer kernel from
the backports.
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769[03:56:32] <iggyZiggy> all i want is my wireless to work :)
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771[03:56:49] <pencilandpaper> Is that why you were updating
your kernel?
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773[03:56:58] <pencilandpaper> I thought that it was your sound
that was trashed?
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774[03:57:04] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: most likely that is due to
needing to install non-free firmware. A newer kernel may not be what
you need.
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775[03:57:12] <pencilandpaper> Well the easy fix for that is
going back to your native kernel, then that should work right?
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777[03:57:27] <stephanie92> Hey guys, i'm using debian 8.5
KDE ... and my start button has seemed to disappear ;x any ideas?
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778[03:57:33] <iggyZiggy> i have no idea what i'm doing,
just following instructions and somehow now i'm updating kernel
to 4.6 and have no idea why
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780[03:57:58] <pencilandpaper> As far as your wifi working for
you iggyZiggy ..we need to find out what your wifi card is iggyZiggy
..and then make sure that your drivers are there.
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781[03:58:16] <pencilandpaper> iggyZiggy: you lost me bro.
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782[03:58:29] <pencilandpaper> Brb, I'm going to go and
restart real quick.
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785[03:58:40] <iggyZiggy> ok, i have followed few peoples
advices, someone new jumps in and that's how i got to updating
kernel :D
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786[03:58:59] <stephanie92> It's like there is a blue bar
over my task bar xD
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788[03:59:30] <iggyZiggy> nice!
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789[03:59:43] <iggyZiggy> i would kill for a problem like that
right about now
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790[03:59:45] <iggyZiggy> :D
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791[04:00:42] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: lets get the wifi working.
What network card do you have? lspci, and get the chipset.
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793[04:01:02] <iggyZiggy> sec, i think i can scroll up for that
one
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794[04:01:33] <iggyZiggy> [168c:003e] is 'QCA6174 802.11ac
Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Qualcomm Atheros'
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799[04:02:34] <iggyZiggy> is this what you want or do you need
something more? just tell me the cmds :)
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800[04:02:57] <xed> Works! Using an Oracle platform on Debian to
run a Microsoft program that I just made into a jar with `fastjar`.
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801[04:03:39] <xed> Back to Minecraft.
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802[04:03:59] <iggyZiggy> :)
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805[04:05:58] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: that looks to be one of the
Atheros cards that needs non-free firmware. You'll need the
package firmware-atheros from non-free
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807[04:06:40] <iggyZiggy> link me please
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808[04:06:48] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: and it does look like the
person who said get the kernel from backports was correct. Seems you
need a jessie-backports kernel with the firmware from
jessie-backports.
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811[04:07:05] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: do you have internet
connenction so you can just use apt-get or have to manually copy the
.deb's over?
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812[04:07:19] <iggyZiggy> manually
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813[04:07:27] <somiaj> iggyZiggy:
replaced-url
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814[04:07:28] <iggyZiggy> yup, sux to be me right now
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816[04:08:00] <somiaj> iggyZiggy:
replaced-url
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819[04:08:28] <somiaj> iggyZiggy:
replaced-url
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820[04:08:42] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: those are the three packages
you'll need, that should give you the newer kernel and the
firmware for your wifi card.
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821[04:09:04] <iggyZiggy> and that's how i got to updating
kernel in the first place
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822[04:09:08] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: copy them over the the
machine, run dpkg -i foo1.deb foo2.deb foo3.deb
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823[04:09:30] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: I just like to get back to the
root problem to see why you were suggested to do that.
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825[04:09:52] <iggyZiggy> :D
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826[04:10:15] <iggyZiggy> all good, i think i stopped at
installing linux base
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831[04:13:23] <iggyZiggy> ok
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832[04:13:27] <iggyZiggy> restarting
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833[04:13:31] <iggyZiggy> wish me luck
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836[04:14:08] <iggyZiggy> and everything crashed
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838[04:14:54] <iggyZiggy> black screen with: psmose serio4:
symaptics: unable to query device.
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840[04:15:02] <iggyZiggy> psmouse*
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842[04:15:15] <iggyZiggy> synaptics*
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843[04:15:24] <pencilandpaper> What DE do you use iggyZiggy ?
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846[04:15:55] <iggyZiggy> ?
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849[04:16:35] <iggyZiggy> 8.5? no idea what you just asked
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850[04:17:28] <pencilandpaper> Ok, your DE is your Desktop
Environment.
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851[04:17:42] <pencilandpaper> So gnome, xfce, mate, kde?
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852[04:17:55] <iggyZiggy> oh, it's the default one, gnome i
think
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854[04:18:05] <pencilandpaper> Ok cool, thanks.
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855[04:18:15] <iggyZiggy> i don't like it
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857[04:18:30] <pencilandpaper> Why do you not have internet on
the pc with debian installed to it if you don't mind me asking?
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858[04:19:55] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: oh hey sorry i got a phone
call and then realized when i came back that i linked you to the
metapackage not the actual kernel package. did using the 4.6 kernel
that somiaj linked you to yield any progress?
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859[04:20:03] <iggyZiggy> i don't understand what
you're asking, i have debian on this old laptop i'm using
right now, i like it, i bought a new laptop, installed debian there
and... well... you know the problem
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860[04:20:26] <iggyZiggy> yup, black screen with error msg
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861[04:20:27] <pencilandpaper> Ok, thanks iggyZiggy .
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863[04:21:04] <pencilandpaper> Now it won't boot at all
right iggyZiggy ?
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864[04:21:05] <iggyZiggy> installed all 3 packages somiaj
suggested
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865[04:21:21] <iggyZiggy> yes, i can see just that error
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867[04:21:34] <pencilandpaper> From mainline ppa did he give you
a link for that kernel iggyZiggy ?
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868[04:21:36] <iggyZiggy> psmouse serio4: synaptics: unable to
query device.
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871[04:22:03] <iggyZiggy> this one:
replaced-url
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873[04:22:07] <pencilandpaper> Thats a kernel error I believe.
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876[04:22:14] <pencilandpaper> Ok cool iggyZiggy .
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878[04:22:18] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: can you get to a virtual
console with ctrl+alt+f1 ?
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880[04:22:29] <iggyZiggy> yes
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885[04:23:03] <iggyZiggy> logged in
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888[04:23:16] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: does "lspci -k | grep
-A2 -i net" show a module in use now?
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891[04:23:59] <iggyZiggy> YES!
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892[04:24:01] <iggyZiggy> OMG!
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895[04:24:25] <iggyZiggy> ath10k_pci
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897[04:24:35] <iggyZiggy> and even for ethernet i have alx
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898[04:24:46] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: if you already have
network-manager installed you can run "nmtui" to use the
text-menu to try and connect wifi
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900[04:25:21] <pencilandpaper> Nice jmcnaught .
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902[04:25:57] <iggyZiggy> erm...
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903[04:26:07] <iggyZiggy> device?
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904[04:26:14] <iggyZiggy> wlan0 or somthing?
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905[04:26:28] <jmcnaught> wlan0 is the wifi interface
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907[04:26:51] <iggyZiggy> do i have to input everything
manually?
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908[04:27:07] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: it's not showing you a
list of networks?
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909[04:27:38] <iggyZiggy> i have edit a connection, activate and
set system hostname
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911[04:28:20] <iggyZiggy> i have ethernet and wired connection 1
to choose
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912[04:28:23] <jmcnaught> activate, then there should be a list
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913[04:28:45] <iggyZiggy> there is a list
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914[04:28:50] <iggyZiggy> wired
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915[04:28:59] <iggyZiggy> -wired connection 1
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916[04:29:06] <iggyZiggy> Wi-Fi
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917[04:29:17] <iggyZiggy> and nothing under it
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919[04:29:33] <iggyZiggy> i can just "select" wired
connection 1
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922[04:30:18] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: normally there's a
list of scanned networks. could you run "dmesg | grep -i
firmware" and see if there are firmwares that failed to load?
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924[04:30:56] <iggyZiggy> :(
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926[04:31:05] <iggyZiggy> yes, ath10k_pci
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927[04:31:16] <iggyZiggy> nvidia
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928[04:31:16] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: what is the filename?
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929[04:31:24] <iggyZiggy> bluetooth
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930[04:31:32] <iggyZiggy> a lot of files
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931[04:31:36] <iggyZiggy> want them all?
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932[04:31:57] <jmcnaught> start with the ath10k stuff, if you
get connected then the rest will be easier
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933[04:32:37] <iggyZiggy> ath10k/cal-pci-0000:02:00.0.bin (-2)
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937[04:33:56] <iggyZiggy> ath10k/QCA6174/hw3.0/firmware-5.bin
(-2)
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939[04:34:20] <iggyZiggy> same for -4.bin
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943[04:35:04] <iggyZiggy> ath10k/QCA6174/hw3.0/board-2.bin (-2)
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944[04:35:04] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: this is the
firmware-atheros from jessie-backports
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945[04:35:08] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
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947[04:35:23] <iggyZiggy> ath10k/QCA6174/hw3.0/board.bin
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948[04:35:49] <iggyZiggy> that's the one i've
installed
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951[04:36:46] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: okay, this is the one that
you were linked to earlier i see
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953[04:37:05] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: does it say that the file
failed to load? what does the line with that filename say?
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959[04:38:04] <iggyZiggy> direct firmware load for <file>
failed with error <error> (-2 all)
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962[04:38:43] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: what does "apt-cache
policy firmware-atheros" say for the Installed: field?
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967[04:39:49] <iggyZiggy> installed: 20160110-1``bpo8+1
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968[04:39:57] <iggyZiggy> candidate: same as above
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970[04:40:08] <iggyZiggy> version table:
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972[04:40:22] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: in the dmesg output, was
there anything about an ath10k related firmware loading
successfully?
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973[04:40:23] <iggyZiggy> samo string with 0 at the end
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975[04:40:39] <iggyZiggy> let me check
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978[04:41:36] <iggyZiggy> no, just fails
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987[04:43:11] <iggyZiggy> but hey, at least we got it to load :D
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990[04:43:40] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: "nmcli device wifi
list" shows no networks?
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991[04:44:11] <iggyZiggy> nope, just headers for the table
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994[04:44:44] <iggyZiggy> that was a longshot, wasn't it :)
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996[04:45:20] <iggyZiggy> how about a restart?
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999[04:45:40] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: well the kernel wiki i
linked to earlier says that the wifi device is supported in kernels
after 3.20
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1000[04:45:42] <iggyZiggy> it worked for it crowd
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1001[04:46:08] <jmcnaught> i don't know why it's not
loading firwmare files if the package that has those files is
installed
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1003[04:46:36] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: it could be worth trying
the ethernet on the new kernel, might make some things easier
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1004[04:46:42] <iggyZiggy> maybe some flag while booting?
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1006[04:47:02] <iggyZiggy> worth a shot
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1007[04:47:20] <iggyZiggy> how about internet theathering? could
that work?
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1008[04:47:30] <iggyZiggy> i can plug my phone in
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1011[04:48:00] <jmcnaught> it might work, nmtui might even be
able to do it. i've never done it though
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1012[04:48:39] <iggyZiggy> one way to find out
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1015[04:50:02] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: what are the make and model
of the computer. often you'll find someone has written a blog
or wiki on how they got linux installed on a computer
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1016[04:50:20] <iggyZiggy> fuck yes!
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1017[04:50:25] <iggyZiggy> it works
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1020[04:50:49] <jmcnaught> hey you made some progress then
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1021[04:51:03] <iggyZiggy> acer predator G9-792-79HS
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1023[04:51:07] <jmcnaught> we should mind the f-bombs though :)
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1024[04:51:10] <iggyZiggy> yeah :D
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1025[04:51:21] <iggyZiggy> sorry, excited
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1026[04:51:50] <iggyZiggy> it's 5 am here and we got some
progress at last
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1027[04:52:02] <iggyZiggy> ok, what's next?
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1028[04:52:22] <somiaj> I prefer using my phone as a hotspot,
then it is just connecting to a wifi (over teathering)
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1029[04:52:30] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: what is your next task, pick
one
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1030[04:52:32] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: it's okay. so when i
search for that model and "linux" i get a bunch of results
in other languages, so this model might not be available in areas
with languages i speak.. did you find anything when you searched?
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1031[04:53:24] <iggyZiggy> just a lot of angry customers
complaing about lack of support for linux
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1032[04:54:06] <iggyZiggy> and i'm pinging google
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1033[04:54:10] <iggyZiggy> hooray
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1034[04:54:13] <somiaj> support for linux is mostly volunteers.
It does help to be picky about the hardware one chooses to buy if
one wants to run linux.
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1035[04:54:31] <somiaj> but that won't help you now, but we
can try, just identify an issue and we'll help you focus on
that.
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1036[04:55:17] <iggyZiggy> ok, well there is still the same issue
with wifi not working but at least we got kernel to load something
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1038[04:55:44] <iggyZiggy> and the other one is it's
crashing and i'm stuck in console
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1040[04:55:59] <iggyZiggy> guess i can install tmux just for fun
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1041[04:56:01] <iggyZiggy> :D
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1042[04:56:09] <jmcnaught> somiaj: the 4.6 kernel loads the
ath10k_pci module, but the firmware file doesn't load
(firmware-atheros from bpo is installed)
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1043[04:57:16] <iggyZiggy> also 4.6 loads ethernet drivers too
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1044[04:57:35] <iggyZiggy> that's a bonus :D
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1045[04:57:52] <somiaj> does dmesg tell what file it is looking
for? Did you check that the file is actually in /lib/firmware
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1046[04:57:52] <iggyZiggy> and now i can download stuff directly
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1047[04:58:09] <iggyZiggy> hold on
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1048[04:58:28] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: dmesg | grep firmware
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1050[04:59:39] <iggyZiggy> ath10k/cal-pci-0000:02:00.0.bin is not
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1052[05:01:38] <iggyZiggy> and ls for QCA6174/hw3.0/ returns
board.bin and firmware-4.bin but dmesg shows both -4 and -5 throwing
errors
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1054[05:02:05] <iggyZiggy> and board-2.bin also
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1055[05:02:30] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: can you give us the error.
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1056[05:02:46] <iggyZiggy> -2
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1057[05:02:52] <iggyZiggy> error is -2
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1058[05:03:02] <somiaj> all it says is error -2, doesn't say
anythign else?
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1059[05:03:37] <iggyZiggy> firmware: failed to load <path>
(-2)
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1060[05:03:41] <iggyZiggy> and
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1062[05:04:05] <iggyZiggy> Direct firmare load for <path>
failed with error -2
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1064[05:04:22] <iggyZiggy> same error for every file
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1066[05:04:35] <iggyZiggy> with one exception...
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1067[05:04:48] <iggyZiggy> this will be a peach to write
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1074[05:06:27] <jmcnaught> !pastebinit
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1075[05:06:27] <dpkg> pastebinit is a command-line tool to send
data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"
users, you must "pastebinit -b
replaced-url
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1077[05:06:50] <iggyZiggy> firmware ver
WLAN.RM.2.0-00180-QCARMSWPZ-1 api 4 features
wowlan,ignore-otp,no-4addr-pad crc32 75dee6c5
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1078[05:06:51] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: ^^ you can use this now
that you're connected to show us the results of commands
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1079[05:07:21] <iggyZiggy> oh god
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1080[05:07:38] <iggyZiggy> i got used to not having internet
there
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1083[05:08:00] <iggyZiggy> do you want all dmesg dump?
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1089[05:09:17] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: "dmesg | grep
firmware" would be more helpful
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1091[05:09:32] <iggyZiggy> how can i install pastebinit?
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1092[05:09:43] <iggyZiggy> oh nvm
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1096[05:10:16] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: forget about it, it's
not working, use nopaste
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1099[05:10:36] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: sudo apt-get install nopaste
;and you'll be fine
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1101[05:10:45] <iggyZiggy> same usage?
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1104[05:11:19] <jmcnaught> pastebinit works for me but nopaste is
fine too.. or "nc termbin.com 9999"
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1105[05:11:30] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: yeah nopaste
<file_name>, you can paste a command's output through the
pipe too, same usage
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1109[05:13:07] <iggyZiggy> keep getting command not found for
both
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1111[05:13:18] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: no, it does exist
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1112[05:13:30] <hassoon> !package nopaste
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1113[05:13:40] <hassoon> dpkg: nopaste
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1114[05:13:40] <dpkg> nopaste is a command-line tool to send data
to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do
"aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste
/etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do
e.g. "dmesg | nopaste".
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1118[05:14:00] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: the instructions are written
by dpkg
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1121[05:15:10] <iggyZiggy> no packages found, do i need to update
something?
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1124[05:15:57] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: apt-get install
libapp-nopaste-perl
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1128[05:16:01] <hassoon> did you install that ?
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1130[05:16:13] <iggyZiggy> tried it, got no packeges error
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1133[05:16:33] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: then do nopaste
<whatever>
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1135[05:16:45] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: how about "dmesg |
grep firmware | nc termbin.com 9999"
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1136[05:16:54] <iggyZiggy> Couldn't find any package whose
name or description matched "libapp-nopaste-perl"
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1138[05:18:07] <iggyZiggy>
replaced-url
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1139[05:18:09] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: heck it does exist
replaced-url
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1141[05:18:33] <iggyZiggy> termbin for the win
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1142[05:18:48] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: apt-get install
libapp-nopaste-perl care to show me your /etc/apt/sources.list~?
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1143[05:18:52] <hassoon> * ?
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1144[05:19:07] <iggyZiggy> i'll termbin in for you :D
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1145[05:19:09] <hassoon> d'oh the damn touchpad ruining my
typing
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1146[05:19:32] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: I'm really interested in
knowing what's wrong there, you care to show me your
/etc/apt/sources.list~?
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1147[05:19:53] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: although you found an
alternative solution
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1149[05:20:25] <iggyZiggy> termbin.com/xsqf
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1151[05:20:48] <iggyZiggy> and it's missing E: unable to
locate package libapp...
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1152[05:20:49] <hassoon> lmfao,what is this
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1153[05:20:51] <somiaj>
replaced-url
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1157[05:21:16] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: look at you...
replaced-url
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1164[05:22:51] <iggyZiggy> here you go
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1165[05:22:52] <iggyZiggy>
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1166[05:22:56] <Akuw> where can i get this ===> pycanberra not
found on the system
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1167[05:23:18] <Akuw> is a weak dependency of piviti
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1168[05:23:23] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: holy moly where are the other
addresses
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1170[05:24:05] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: you need the main lines
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1171[05:24:08] <iggyZiggy> this is fresh install, we just managed
to get a little bit of internet 20 minutes ago
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1172[05:24:27] <hassoon> look at mine
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1173[05:24:33] <iggyZiggy> somiaj jmcnaught what's next?
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1177[05:25:20] <iggyZiggy> cool, i'll have to add more when
i get my wireless card working :D
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1183[05:26:59] <iggyZiggy> somiaj, looks like i'll be
building a kernel or something
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1185[05:27:18] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: unsure what the issue could
be.
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1186[05:28:01] <iggyZiggy> shall we try with 4.2 kernel or
something?
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1187[05:28:42] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: if you want you can use
snapshot.debian.org and try a previous kernel. I would still like to
see the output of dmesg | grep firmware and dmesg | grep atk10
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1191[05:29:01] <iggyZiggy> sure
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1194[05:30:10] <iggyZiggy> got a msg in consle "use
netcat"
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1199[05:31:49] <iggyZiggy> is that some limit with termbin?
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1201[05:32:32] <iggyZiggy> somiaj:
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1202[05:32:58] <iggyZiggy> this is grep firmware, looks like i
can't use termbin anymore
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1207[05:35:23] <iggyZiggy> ooooh
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1208[05:35:29] <iggyZiggy> ath not atk
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1210[05:35:48] <iggyZiggy> and looks like a stream of errors
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1211[05:35:57] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: sorry, yea
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1212[05:36:08] <iggyZiggy> for dmegs | ath10
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1213[05:36:26] <iggyZiggy> could not suspend target (-11)
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1215[05:36:45] <iggyZiggy> failed to enable adaptive qcs: -11
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1217[05:37:08] <iggyZiggy> and it repeats a lot
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1218[05:37:27] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: what about the output of find
/lib/firmware/ath10k
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1219[05:39:12] <somiaj> according to the file list I"m
looking at, that package didn't have the correct firmware.
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1221[05:40:24] <iggyZiggy> my phone connection broke and now i
can't set it back up
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1228[05:42:53] <iggyZiggy> termbin.com/6iky
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1231[05:43:04] <iggyZiggy> somiaj:
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1234[05:43:47] <iggyZiggy> almost 6 am
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1236[05:44:16] <iggyZiggy> any suggestions?
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1238[05:44:29] <somiaj> yea you just have a card that has issues.
I'm trying to track down the firmware you need
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1240[05:45:16] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: just cause I lost this info,
what revesion do you have. you have [168c:003e] what is the revesion
number (rev ??), it will be in lspci
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1242[05:45:32] <iggyZiggy> 32 i think
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1244[05:45:49] <iggyZiggy> yes
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1248[05:46:00] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: since the sun is probably
rising there, i would consider making some notes on the progress
you've made so far, what you've changed from stock, etc..
before you pass out from exhaustion :)
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1249[05:46:18] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: and it is the 168c:003e right
(just double checking)
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1251[05:46:33] <iggyZiggy> what exhaustion? i have to start
working in few hours :D
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1253[05:46:40] <iggyZiggy> yes
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1258[05:49:04] <somiaj> iggyZiggy:
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1259[05:49:06] <iggyZiggy> i think he's onto something :)
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1261[05:49:22] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: check post #22, it is supose
to fix the card 168c:003e (rev 32)
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1267[05:50:47] <somiaj> iggyZiggy:
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1268[05:51:40] <sean_> need a coupe of questions answered on PXE
in debian, I have isc-dhcp-server set what I am not understanding it
the pxelinux.0 is this my config file to point to the iso?
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1269[05:51:44] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: that is the most upto date
version I can find of the firmware and it is supose to work with
your card. Download board-2.bin, board.bin and firmware-4.bin from
that site, and copy them to /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA6174/hw3.0
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1270[05:52:02] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: seems people who have gotten
it to work have been having to manually downlaod those firmware
files.
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1271[05:52:08] <iggyZiggy> on it
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1272[05:52:09] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: I gotta go, but I'll be
back
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1273[05:53:03] <sean_> anyone
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1281[05:56:37] <locrian9> Can anyone help me with some iptables
setup on my ftp server? I have a file setup with four "-A
INPUT" instances and five "-A OUTPUT" instances, but
when I run "sudo iptables -L" I'm only seeing the
following output
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1282[05:56:41] <locrian9> I'm issueing the command
"sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables/rules.v4". I
think that is applying the rules to the live IPCHAIN, isn't it?
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1285[05:57:24] <sean_> do a iptables -nvL
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1288[05:58:03] <locrian9> sean: nice one. thanks!
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1290[05:58:12] <locrian9> sean_: nice one. thanks!
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1294[05:59:22] <tako> hello i installed Debian with encrypted lvm
and now i just want to get rid of it because its asking for password
on every boot
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1295[05:59:53] <sean_> tako that is it job
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1296[06:00:11] <tako> sean_, yea but i wasnt know at the first so
now i should remove it
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1300[06:00:53] <sean_> its a mess if you attempt to remove it
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1302[06:01:02] <sean_> things will break
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1303[06:01:21] <sean_> you can attempt a script that auto injects
it on boot
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1306[06:02:15] <tako> sean_, hmm
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1311[06:03:13] <jmcnaught> tako: or just suspend the computer
most of the time
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1316[06:04:39] <tako> script can be good
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1317[06:04:42] <tako> how can i do it
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1320[06:04:54] <tako>
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1321[06:04:59] <tako> maybe i can try this
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1327[06:07:34] <sean_> who had the iptables issue again
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1329[06:08:21] <tako> or can i just set pass to 1 ?
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1336[06:10:45] <sean_> tako see if you have
/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot
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1339[06:12:19] <tako> i have sean_
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1340[06:12:52] <jmcnaught> tako: you can add a new passphrase to
an encrypted luks volume
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1341[06:13:23] <sean_> look for $cryptkeyscript
"$cryptkey" | $cryptcreate --key-file=- ; then
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1342[06:13:51] <sean_> and replace it with echo -n
"PASSWORD" | $cryptcreate --key-file=- ; then The PASSWORD
is your password
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1346[06:16:28] <iggyZiggy> somiaj: thank you so much!!!!!!!
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1348[06:16:49] <tako> sean_, is this a way to pass the password
asking ? or change my pass
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1351[06:17:34] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: that firmware worked?
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1352[06:17:43] <iggyZiggy> yes :D
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1353[06:18:12] <iggyZiggy> but now i have black screen
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1354[06:18:25] <iggyZiggy> man what a trip
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1356[06:18:51] <iggyZiggy> so how do i get back the visual part?
:)
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1357[06:19:00] <jmcnaught> nice. iggyZiggy i noticed earlier in
the paste of your sources.list
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1360[06:19:19] <jmcnaught> !tell iggyZiggy about jessie
sources.list
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1362[06:20:16] <iggyZiggy> i'll edit it now
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1363[06:20:26] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: I'm unsure why adding the
firmware would change if xorg is working or not. But you can look at
the xorg log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what is not loading
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1364[06:20:59] <jmcnaught> i think xorg was failing earlier as
well, they were working from a tty
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1365[06:21:24] <iggyZiggy> true
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1366[06:22:26] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: what do you get from
"lspci -nn | grep VGA"?
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1367[06:22:47] <iggyZiggy> termbin.com/bg4f
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1369[06:24:03] <iggyZiggy> jmcnaught: termbin.com/njbq
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1373[06:25:10] <somiaj> oh lovely you have optimus hardware and
it is failing to detect the intel chipset.
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1374[06:26:12] <somiaj> ,pciid 8086:191b
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1375[06:26:14] <judd> [8086:191b] is 'HD Graphics 530'
from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules
'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See
also
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1376[06:26:24] <jmcnaught> that's skylake
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1377[06:26:47] <iggyZiggy> i have nvidia gtx980m
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1378[06:26:49] <somiaj> ahh maybe the xserver-xorg-video-intel
package is needed form jessie-backports
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1380[06:27:20] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: optimus support is fairly poor
in debian, you'll get the intel to work, can you configure your
bios to use one or the other? Or do you need some tool to tell your
bios which to use?
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1381[06:28:15] <iggyZiggy> i have no idea what optimus is
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1382[06:28:39] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: is the name for the laptops
which have a dual intel/nvidia card (and switch betwen them
depending on program)
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1383[06:28:40] <iggyZiggy> and how come it's not using
nvidia?
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1385[06:29:26] <iggyZiggy> isn't nvidia better?
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1386[06:29:45] <iggyZiggy> and to bios i go
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1388[06:30:39] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: if you can get it to work. I
have no experience with the hardware
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1390[06:31:06] <iggyZiggy> can't setup anything you
mentioned in bios
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1392[06:31:56] <iggyZiggy> poor options
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1393[06:33:03] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: install
xserver-xorg-video-intel from jessie-backports. This will at least
get you into X. You won't be using the nvidia card
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1394[06:33:07] <somiaj> !bumblbee
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1396[06:33:26] <somiaj> !bumblebee
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1397[06:33:26] <dpkg> The Bumblebee project aims to provide
support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux
systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are
Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep
'\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the
laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and
<wheezy-backports>.
replaced-url
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1400[06:34:00] <somiaj> you may be able to get the nvidia card to
work in some apps with bumblebee, though I am unsure on what you
will need to do
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1401[06:34:35] <somiaj> if all you want to do is use a desktop
(no major need for 3-D acceleration) I would just use the skylake
card and not mess with it. Or save that for a later date. At least
get the intel card working is my suggestions
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1402[06:34:45] <jmcnaught> the instructions on the Debian wiki
look fairly simple, but the intel driver would need to be working
first
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1403[06:35:16] <tako> i still need help about LUKS how can i
remove them or inject them a pass on startup
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1414[06:38:54] <jmcnaught> tako: look at "man crypttab"
for how to specify the path to a keyfile with the password. you
could put that file on /boot which is not encrypted on Debian
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1419[06:39:35] <jmcnaught> tako: or look at "man
cryptsetup" and see the part about adding a key if you wanted
to use your idea of adding a new password that is "1" or
something like that.
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1422[06:40:25] <tako> looks so hard for me
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1423[06:40:30] <iggyZiggy> can i add jessie-backport to sources
list?
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1424[06:41:00] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: yes
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1425[06:41:05] <somiaj> !jessie-backports sources
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1426[06:41:12] <somiaj> !jessie-backports
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1427[06:41:12] <dpkg> Selected packages intended for the Debian 9
"Stretch" release but recompiled for use with
"Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the
"jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports
are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A
suitable line for your sources.list is «deb
replaced-url
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1429[06:43:07] <iggyZiggy> now i can apt-get install
xserver-xorg... and it will be from backports?
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1436[06:44:46] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: to install frm backports
you need to use "-t jessie-backports" with apt-get
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1439[06:45:53] <iggyZiggy> i got one hell of a linux lesson
tonight
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1442[06:47:13] <iggyZiggy> so it's apt-get install
xserver-xorg-video-intelxserver-xorg-video-intel -t jessie-backports
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1443[06:47:16] <iggyZiggy> right?
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1444[06:47:39] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: put the -t ... before the
package name
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1445[06:47:39] <somiaj> unsure if the option can go at the end,
so apt-get -t jesssie-backports install
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1450[06:49:10] <iggyZiggy> rebooting :D
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1451[06:49:32] <iggyZiggy> woohooo!
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1454[06:50:38] <iggyZiggy> i love you guys
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1456[06:51:07] <iggyZiggy> no rest for the wicked, now to
bumblebee
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1461[06:52:18] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: read through the
replaced-url
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1463[06:52:47] <iggyZiggy> just checked and got those 2 lines
back
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1465[06:53:27] <jmcnaught> which two lines? x and y?
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1468[06:54:29] <iggyZiggy> !bumblebee
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1469[06:54:30] <dpkg> The Bumblebee project aims to provide
support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux
systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are
Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep
'\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the
laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and
<wheezy-backports>.
replaced-url
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1470[06:54:34] <iggyZiggy> those 2 lines
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1471[06:54:46] <iggyZiggy> no idea what they are but they are
there :D
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1472[06:55:07] <jmcnaught> oh, lspci lists PCI devices. you have
two, intel and nvidia.
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1473[06:55:13] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: yea we already deteremined you
had optimus from eariler. (:
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1474[06:55:31] <iggyZiggy> sorry, i'm closing to 7 am now
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1475[06:55:40] <iggyZiggy> didn't sleep at all
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1476[06:55:47] <iggyZiggy> ok, next question
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1477[06:55:49] <jmcnaught> you need to follow the instructions on
the bumblebee wiki page. there's not a lot to do but i
recommend reading them through before you start
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1478[06:55:49] <iggyZiggy> requires contrib and non-free enabled
in your sources.list
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1479[06:56:03] <iggyZiggy> i just append this after main in
sources.list?
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1480[06:56:06] <jmcnaught> or get some rest and do this part
later :)
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1481[06:56:35] <jmcnaught> iggyZiggy: yes, put 'contrib
non-free' after main
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1482[06:56:50] <iggyZiggy> i'm not resting until i set my
dev enivironment up :)
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1483[06:57:06] <iggyZiggy> i'm getting a hang of this
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1495[07:04:09] <iggyZiggy> i don't think it worked, do i
also need to specify -t jessie-backports?
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1496[07:04:51] <jmcnaught> what was the command and output?
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1500[07:06:17] <iggyZiggy> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
&& sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install
bumblebee-nvidia primus primus-libs:i386
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1501[07:06:32] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: not unless it says you should.
Though you can use apt-cache policy package name to see if there is
a newer version available injessie-backports or not
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1502[07:06:39] <iggyZiggy> got some missing indexes
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1503[07:07:36] <iggyZiggy> also something very weird happened, my
"mouse" buttons on touchpad got reversed/lost
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1505[07:07:56] <iggyZiggy> left button behaves like right click
and i don't have left click
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1507[07:09:36] <iggyZiggy> i'm getting unable to locate
package policy for bumblebee-nvidia primus
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1510[07:11:01] <somiaj> ,v bumblebee-nvidia
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1511[07:11:02] <judd> Package: bumblebee-nvidia on amd64 --
wheezy-backports/contrib: 3.2.1-4~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 3.2.1-7;
jessie-backports/contrib: 3.2.1-13~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 3.2.1-13;
stretch/contrib: 3.2.1-13
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1512[07:11:41] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: do you have jessie sources and
contrib and non-free enabled?
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1516[07:13:09] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: I know you were told to set
this up, also run apt-get update after you make changes
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1517[07:13:09] <iggyZiggy> somiaj:
replaced-url
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1519[07:13:43] <somiaj> yea looks like you didn't apt-get
update after making changes
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1521[07:14:08] <iggyZiggy> i'm still getting some errors
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1523[07:14:18] <iggyZiggy> some index files failed to download
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1524[07:14:23] <somiaj> paste the command you typed and the
errors you got
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1525[07:14:43] <iggyZiggy> apt-get update
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1526[07:14:59] <somiaj> put the whole output on a pastebin.
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1528[07:16:21] <iggyZiggy> i can click :D
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1529[07:17:02] <iggyZiggy> can't*
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1535[07:20:09] <iggyZiggy> ipossible, can't click to solve
captcha imaes
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1536[07:20:19] <somiaj> use paste.debian.net, no captcha
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1538[07:20:48] <somiaj> anyways, unsure what the issue with your
mouse is. As for why apt-get update is failing, it could be
httpredir.debian.org is pointing you to a mirror that is having
trouble. You could try another mirror
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1541[07:21:46] <iggyZiggy> paste.debian.net doesn't work
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1542[07:22:05] <somiaj> what doesn't it do, it works here.
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1543[07:22:21] <iggyZiggy> getting server not found
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1545[07:23:19] <iggyZiggy> ping on debian works, on
paste.debian.org i get unkown host
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1549[07:24:36] <somiaj> sorry paste.debian.net
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1550[07:24:39] <somiaj> not org
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1554[07:25:31] <iggyZiggy> paste.debian.net/770168/
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1555[07:26:38] <somiaj> iggyZiggy: your third line, deb
replaced-url
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1556[07:26:50] <somiaj> didn't notice that eariler
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1558[07:27:11] <somiaj> though that shouldn't have stopped
you from frinding the packages you were looking for.
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1567[07:29:10] <iggyZiggy> well you were right and wrong
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1569[07:29:18] <iggyZiggy> it did stop me
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1570[07:29:36] <iggyZiggy> now it's downloading bumblebee
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1571[07:30:44] <somiaj> I think not running apt-get update was
the problem, the errors just came afterwards.
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1577[07:32:56] <somiaj> same thing
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1583[07:34:17] <iggyZiggy> dang
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1584[07:34:31] <iggyZiggy> error: could not load gpu driver
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1608[07:51:58] <iggyZiggy> somiaj: thank you, love you,
you're the best
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1637[08:02:59] <Pegasus_RPG> Hello. My laptop's HD is
failing and I just purchased a replacement drive that uses 4K
sectors. (My old one used 512B sectors.) Can I use drive cloning
software and still take advantage of the larger sector size or must
I repartition and copy everything?
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1651[08:07:49] <somiaj> Pegasus_RPG: Any specific reason you want
to clone as opposed to rsync. Only issue I can think of is resetting
up the bootloader.
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1652[08:08:01] <somiaj> Pegasus_RPG: you will have to update
fstab with the new uuid's too
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1653[08:08:13] <Pegasus_RPG> somiaj: Because I ahve Windows
partitions on the drive as well as LUKS ones
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1661[08:10:17] <somiaj> Pegasus_RPG:
replaced-url
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1665[08:11:57] <Pegasus_RPG> ugh... the LUKS partition will be a
huge image
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1666[08:12:02] <somiaj> Pegasus_RPG:
replaced-url
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1668[08:13:13] <somiaj> so if you set up a new LUKS setup you may
be able to clone the filesystem (as a full image) though you may
have to just copy the files over, and deal with the windows
partitions sepertally
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1678[08:15:44] <Pegasus_RPG> That's doable, thanks.
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1690[08:24:11] <pragomer_1> anybody knows how to open a
"psion series 5" database file? (from a symbian phone)
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1763[09:01:31] <namoamitabuddha> Question: how can I disable a
service in start up?
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1766[09:01:50] <namoamitabuddha> Is update-rc.d obsolete?
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1767[09:02:01] <namoamitabuddha> I want to disable sshd
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1770[09:02:17] <namoamitabuddha> I wonder a propre way to do that
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1785[09:12:56] <somiaj> namoamitabuddha: I think it still works,
but systemctl disable is what I use with systemd
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1809[09:25:25] <Pegasus_RPG> somiaj: okay, I found out my new HDD
is 512e, so 4K physical, 512B logical
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1810[09:25:45] <Pegasus_RPG> So as long as my existing partitions
are 4K-aligned, cloning should work, right?
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1843[09:37:21] <Esya_> Hey guys, seeing a weird shell problem,
maybe someone has an idea. My shell is set to zsh on my two servers.
If I log in to serv1, I get zsh. If I then ssh from serv1 to serv2,
I also get zsh. But if I ssh from my laptop to serv2 through serv1
(my ssh config has a ProxyCommand for serv2, because it is inside a
private network), I get bash instead of zsh
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1844[09:37:26] <Esya_> Does anyone have an idea?
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replaced-url
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1997[10:43:08] <twager> Anyone tell me if a Motorola phone will
mount ok in Linux
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1998[10:43:38] <XeonSquared> I have one and MTP works fine
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2002[10:44:33] <twager> Thanks for the info
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2029[11:03:27] <fpires> i was sleeping for 10 yrs, where is
compix on repositories?
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Control-Alt-N bound in Debian 7.11? I can't find it in
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2038[11:08:01] <zootopia> hi hello, I got a strange problem which
is when I try to install some pack, it said " error while
loading shared libraries: libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0:no such file or
directory", but I can find it, it's clearly in the
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ directory, what's going on?
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2040[11:09:15] <zootopia> pls help guys
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2043[11:10:12] <daftest> nevermind, it's fixed... for now
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2044[11:10:22] <daftest> came and went without cause. that's
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2062[11:13:44] <zootopia> well, embarrassing, it's a 32
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2084[11:23:25] <Iridos> zoo...
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2085[11:23:49] <Iridos> funny. now that one could have said
something to help, he or she left
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2133[11:42:53] <Eremiell> hi, I seem to be redirected here from
#debian-next, is this now an appropriate channel to ask testing
questions?
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2136[11:43:16] <MaBunny> no Eremiell
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2137[11:43:41] <count> .o( it isn't?!? )
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2139[11:44:01] <Eremiell> when I try to join #debian-next I
apparently end up here
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2144[11:44:40] <MaBunny> idk....but i heard this question here b4
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2146[11:44:55] <petn-randall> !debian-next
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2147[11:44:55] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2148[11:44:56] <MaBunny> and this time is not quite the busy here
so
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2149[11:45:07] <petn-randall> Eremiell: ^^^^^
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2150[11:45:13] <MaBunny> yes
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2151[11:45:17] <Eremiell> oh, OFTC, right, thanks
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2152[11:45:28] <petn-randall> Eremiell: You're welcome, see
you there.
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2180[12:02:25] <Iridos> hm, maybe this IS something to ask...
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2184[12:03:19] <Iridos> I ran aptitude -f install and get a huge
list of things it wants to doo (most of which are "do
nothing", but if I go one step further, it wants to remove 500
packages)
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2185[12:03:29] <Iridos> on the other hand, apt-get -f install is
fully content
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2187[12:04:18] <Iridos> looks like this:
replaced-url
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2188[12:04:24] <Doo> i rly like my nickname
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2189[12:04:34] <Doo> it permits me to pop in some conversations
like this one
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2190[12:04:39] <Iridos> heh
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2191[12:04:43] <Doo> ;)
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2192[12:04:44] <Iridos> doo as you like
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2193[12:04:50] <Doo> i'll doo as i please
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2194[12:05:00] <Doo> and i'll doo as i am
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2196[12:05:12] <Iridos> I think we're doone with that,
though
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2197[12:05:34] <Doo> i doo too but doo you think that it'll
be over for a long time?
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2253[12:29:49] <Iridos> oh, maybe I got it... the problem is that
aptitude has no supercow powers
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2254[12:30:00] <asdfew> Please tell me the right format for a 8gb
usb stick. I wanted to format it to exfat but somehow it
doesn't work "command not found".
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2260[12:31:21] <Iridos> you maybe want to say what command
(-line) gives you "command not found"
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2262[12:32:39] <Iridos> hm... maybe it's some pending
installs that make aptitude act up... is there a way to see pending
actions?
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2264[12:32:58] <asdfew> mkfs.exfat
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2266[12:33:26] <MaBunny> probably mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/sdX should
work
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2269[12:34:31] <asdfew> Is a vfat system not better for a usb?
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2270[12:34:56] <unborn> fat32
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2271[12:34:58] <MaBunny> yes but you cannot run linux
executasbles in vfat system
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2272[12:34:59] <Iridos> oh, there's "aptitude
keep-all" ... and that removed all pending stuff and fixed
aptitude \o/
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2273[12:35:00] <unborn> i think
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2274[12:35:33] <MaBunny> but you can exchange data btween wingdos
n linux in vfat system
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2275[12:35:44] <Iridos> asdfew, depends what you want to do with
it?
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2276[12:36:21] <Iridos> asdfew, let us introduce you to the magic
of tab completion... mkfs.[tab][tab]
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2277[12:36:32] <MaBunny> lool
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2279[12:36:44] <Iridos> not funny
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2280[12:36:50] <asdfew> Just play music in a music box. Now usb
stick is formatted to fat32, but fat 32 only supports 4gb
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2281[12:37:06] <MaBunny> no
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2282[12:37:16] <asdfew> more than 4gb?
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2283[12:37:22] <MaBunny> i hav a 1TB vfat ext harddisk
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2284[12:37:33] <Iridos> there's different types of fat
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2285[12:38:08] <MaBunny> asdfew if you want to install linux on
tht usb then use ext4
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2286[12:38:30] <asdfew> yes, I know for linux usb stick I always
use ext4
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2287[12:39:00] <Iridos> the command is mkfs.vfat for fat
filesystems
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2288[12:39:07] <TomTomTosch> but he just wants to "Just play
music in a music box" depending on what music box it is, it
might need something fat.
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2289[12:39:23] <Iridos> because the music might be fatboy slim
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2290[12:39:32] <asdfew> But, does fat32 for usb stick supports
more than 4gb
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2291[12:40:08] <trewas> fat32 maximum file size is 4GB, but
partition can be much larger
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2292[12:40:19] <MaBunny> should....
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2293[12:40:23] <MaBunny> ^^
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2295[12:40:38] <asdfew> a okay, one single file size is 4gb, now
I understand
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2296[12:40:49] <asdfew> *maximum 4gb
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2300[12:41:52] <Iridos>
replaced-url
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2302[12:42:06] <Iridos> isn't it amazing what mrs google can
tell you
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2305[12:42:34] <asdfew> I didn't understand the maximum file
size
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2306[12:42:47] <MaBunny> we should make a bot tht replies in mrs
google words to the common ppls questions
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2309[12:43:01] <brimonk> defaults on an xrdb ~/.Xresources
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2334[12:54:00] <hrob> hi
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2336[12:54:25] <hrob> I would like to add a custom init script
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2337[12:56:29] <akis> hi all. i am considering to switch from
xubuntu 16.04 to debian 8.5 xfce-desktop (amd64). does debian
provide a full encryption disk during installation?
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2339[12:56:56] <TomTomTosch> akis: sure. the installer walks you
through it.
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2344[12:58:42] <akis> TomTomTosch: thanks, and a /home encryption
too?
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2346[12:59:12] <TomTomTosch> yes, would be rather lame if it
didn't ;D
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2352[13:01:51] <akis> TomTomTosch: which is the recommended
software manager application for debian? synaptic?
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2353[13:02:08] <jelly> aptitude ?
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2355[13:03:09] <MaBunny> depends if you prefer the terminal or
GUI
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2365[13:05:50] <akis> MaBunny: are you talking to me? i can use
both, but i am asking for GUI recommended package manager.
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2367[13:06:11] <MaBunny> synaptic then
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2374[13:09:24] <akis> MaBunny: ok, thanks. does this iso
replaced-url
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2380[13:10:47] <MaBunny> akis: i think all debian isos give an
option to download which GUI you wish to install
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2383[13:11:23] <MaBunny> and you will get synaptic as your first
app downloader choice bsides apt
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2384[13:12:00] <MaBunny> you will be able to download any other
app manager if its provided in the repos
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2385[13:12:47] <akis> MaBunny: thanks for advises. debian 8,5 for
how long is it supported it?
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2386[13:13:07] <MaBunny> 2020
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2389[13:13:21] <MaBunny> Jessie is supprted till then iirc
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2394[13:14:42] <MaBunny> akis: personal advice....try to learn
the terminal...it will open a whole new window
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2395[13:14:55] <TomTomTosch> you will probably want to upgrade to
the next stable before may 2018 though. that's when jessie goes
into lts and gets less security support.
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2397[13:15:30] <akis> MaBunny: so, till 2020 will provide
security updates for the core and xfce enviroment too?
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2399[13:15:41] <MaBunny> ^^
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2400[13:16:10] <MaBunny> akis: im just a novice now...ask the exp
players here about sec
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2401[13:16:35] <akis> MaBunny: its ok.
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2416[13:19:44] <tuppabox> hey
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2418[13:20:37] <tuppabox> i got a weird problem with samba
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2422[13:21:17] <tuppabox> it just worked fine, but now it doesnt
work anymore
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2423[13:21:25] <x4u3n> Hello, i have a problem with perfomance:
replaced-url
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2426[13:21:42] <tuppabox> i configured it with gadmin-samba
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2427[13:22:07] <tuppabox> i didtnt really change anything, i also
resetted smb.conf
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2428[13:22:14] <tuppabox> but still doesnt work
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2430[13:22:24] <tuppabox> someone any idea?
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2431[13:22:59] <dadabong_> is lightdm-greeter the lock screen for
my system? im using lxde for my environment and when i run the
lxlock command bash recognizes it but nothing happens. ive looked at
the lx lock script and it tries to call a bunch of third party locks
but none of them work apparently and im trying to find the actual
lock
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2433[13:23:33] <bashman> tuppabox: what is the problem ? can you
give us some error information
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2435[13:24:09] <tuppabox> where could i find some error
information?
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2436[13:24:32] <tuppabox> when i use dolphin and search for samba
shares
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2437[13:24:33] <bashman> tuppabox: If you say it is not working
... what is the expected behaviour and what is happning ... such
sort of information
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2438[13:24:55] <tuppabox> it says it couldnt find
anything...blabla...maybe its the firewall
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2441[13:25:46] <bashman> can you try smbclient -L
//<workgroupname>
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2445[13:26:58] <bashman> tuppabox: If you know there exists a
system in this domain, you can try smbclient -L
//<machine-name> . This must get back to you with the list of
shares. There you can see if there are any issues
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2446[13:27:15] <tuppabox> ah ok
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2447[13:27:33] <tuppabox> but i think ive to install smbclient
first because it cant find the command...
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2449[13:28:26] <bashman> tuppabox: May be that will fix the
browsing issue
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2450[13:29:01] <tuppabox> but i cant remember that i uninstalled
it
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2452[13:29:26] <tuppabox> hmm or yes........... strange
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2454[13:30:12] <Iridos> x4u3n, what is the problem with
performance
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2455[13:30:42] <x4u3n> Iridos, i don't understand why load
average is near 4 with only 2 processors.
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2456[13:30:58] <x4u3n> and why i have 99.1 - - S 13-20:47:13
[migration/0]
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2457[13:31:00] <tuppabox> and sometimes it takes hours for
downloading something.... now 0.3 mb....probably 10 min....my
connection can 8mb/s
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2459[13:31:01] <x4u3n> in 99%
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2460[13:31:10] <x4u3n> sorry my english :P
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2461[13:31:34] <Iridos> x4u3n, load is a bit weird. in short: it
is the sum of all processes running and all processes waiting to run
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2462[13:32:12] <x4u3n> ok, but for 2 processors average like
maximum limit will be 2?
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2464[13:32:18] <Iridos> no
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2467[13:32:27] <Iridos> any amount of processes can be waiting to
run
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2468[13:32:28] <x4u3n> 100% = 2 = 2 cores
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2469[13:32:33] <x4u3n> oks
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2470[13:32:41] <x4u3n> then 100% = 2 cores = 4 average is normal
:P
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2471[13:32:43] <Iridos> you can easily have a load of 100 if
things go wrong
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2472[13:33:03] <Iridos> and... 0.8 - 0 D 02:51:07 [kswapd0]
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2473[13:33:03] <x4u3n> ok
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2474[13:33:09] <sypher> x4u3n: Load average isn't capped.
I've seen a quad core system hit a load average of 400 due to
runaway processes and storage issues.
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2475[13:33:42] <Iridos> are things actually slow on the system or
not?
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2478[13:34:04] <sypher> x4u3n: It's better used as a way to
tell if the system is being overloaded. If your load average is
higher than the number of CPUs reported in /proc/cpuinfo, then
you're likely overtaxing the system in some way.
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2479[13:34:06] <x4u3n> Iridos, not really, only mysqld that
consume 75% cpu normally, ....
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2481[13:34:26] <Iridos> processes in "D" state count
towards load, even if they don't really do anything and are in
D permanently
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2482[13:34:35] <Iridos> (processes in R obviously also count)
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2484[13:34:59] <x4u3n> Iridos: im ikely overtaxing the system in
some way then :P
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2485[13:35:04] <x4u3n> Sorry sypher :P
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2486[13:35:21] <Iridos> if nothing seems slow, I would say there
is no problem
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2487[13:35:21] <ChrisH> high load must not be a bad thing but can
be... depends
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2489[13:35:37] <x4u3n> Iridos and why consume with sleeped
process?
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2491[13:36:16] <x4u3n> i have only 1 process runnining, the
others sleeped
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2492[13:36:26] <tuppabox> bashman, Connection to Workgroup failed
(Error NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL)
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2493[13:36:39] <Cueball> Hi everyone. I'm having a little
trouble with udev rules. I have a file
/etc/udev/rules.d/80-energenie.rules which at currently matching
vendor and product id and setting it to mode 0666. However it seems
to be ignored by udev. Anything I could be missing?
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2496[13:37:33] <tuppabox> bashman,
replaced-url
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2499[13:37:44] <Cueball> ATTRS{idVendor}=="04b4",
ATTRS{idProduct}=="fd13", MODE="0666"
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2500[13:37:52] <x4u3n> ChrisH, sypher and Iridos thank u for you
help.
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2502[13:38:27] <Cueball> That is current contents. Tried with
ATTR rather than ATTRS and also with UBSYSTEM=="usb" on
there too.
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2504[13:38:50] <MadHatter42> is the load on moder unix systems
agregated ?
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2505[13:38:56] <MadHatter42> modern*
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2507[13:39:10] <MadHatter42> as in if i have like 8 cores and a
load of 3
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2509[13:39:28] <MadHatter42> does that mean i'm overworked
or underworked ?
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2510[13:39:57] <Iridos> depends?
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2512[13:39:58] <MadHatter42> anyone ?
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2513[13:40:07] <Rollozuh> MadHatter42: you are a lot underworked
:)
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2514[13:40:12] <Iridos> I tried to explain that load isn't
so straight-forward a bit before
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2518[13:40:32] <MadHatter42> care to elaborate
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2519[13:40:34] <MadHatter42> ?
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2521[13:40:54] <sypher> Load isn't just a matter of CPU
time. If I have processes sitting in a wait state because storage is
overloaded, that'll still drive my load average up.
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2522[13:40:54] <MadHatter42> so a load of 8 would be ok ?
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2523[13:41:17] <Iridos> load of 3 means that at least 5 cores
aren't busy
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2524[13:41:44] <Iridos> but load of 10 still doesn't
necessesarily mean that all cores are busy
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2525[13:41:45] <Rollozuh> MadHatter42: see here for a better
explanation and also for an example
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2526[13:42:06] <Iridos> there was a nice article explaining load
somewhere
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2527[13:42:11] <x4u3n> Iridos exactly.
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2528[13:42:13] <Iridos> wonder if it's in the factoid
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2529[13:42:15] <Iridos> dpkg, load
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2530[13:42:15] <dpkg> PRESS PLAY ON TAPE
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2531[13:42:18] <Iridos> :/
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2533[13:42:55] <sypher> lol
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2540[13:46:47] <Iridos> maybe the wiki article really isn't
the worst... I remember reading something better which explained
some more obscure aspects of the load... but... not useful when I
cannot find it
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2541[13:46:59] <Iridos> dpkg, no, load is <reply> The load
shown by uptime is the sum of the number processes running and
queued to run. See
replaced-url
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2542[13:47:00] <dpkg> Iridos: okay
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2543[13:47:03] <Iridos> dpkg, load
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2544[13:47:04] <dpkg> The load shown by uptime is the sum of the
number processes running and queued to run. See
replaced-url
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2548[13:49:31] <bashman> tuppabox: see if there is a backup of
smb.conf and try to use that instead.
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2588[14:08:12] <a64> Hello, how to install debian linux drivers
for macbook pro ?
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2638[14:38:50] <jubo2> I 'wget
replaced-url
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2639[14:38:59] <jubo2> How do I extract from an .xz ?
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2643[14:39:10] <jubo2> all I know is .tar.gz
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2644[14:39:20] <hassoon> jubo2: what ar eyou up to
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2645[14:39:23] <jubo2> that one is easy .. 'tar cvzf
filename.tar.gz'
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2646[14:39:25] <hassoon> *are you *
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2647[14:39:32] <jubo2> hassoon: Installing etherpad on one of my
servers
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2648[14:39:44] <hassoon> jubo2: you got what kind of files
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2651[14:40:02] <jubo2> I have.. I have a .tar.xz
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2652[14:40:15] <unborn> jubo2:
replaced-url
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2653[14:40:23] <jubo2> okays unborn
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2656[14:42:48] <jubo2> yep.. 'tar xvf' works just fine
it autodetects the compression being used
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2658[14:43:05] <Iridos> jubo2, tar -xf blub.xz
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2661[14:43:33] <MisterGadfly> Don't you hate it when your PC
swaps. I wonder how the hell some apps can run decently when
swapped.
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2662[14:43:47] <Iridos> tar autodetects packing type since 10
years ago... or so I heard
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2663[14:44:07] <Iridos> oh. seems I was slow
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2664[14:44:33] <Iridos> ECOFFEELACK
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2665[14:44:52] <jubo2> .coffee Iridos
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2666[14:44:57] <Iridos> ECHAN
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2667[14:45:06] <jubo2> NO COFFEEBOT?
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2668[14:45:12] <dadabong_> what command is being run when you use
the keyboard shortcut for locking the screen? i cant find anything
on google other than what the shortcut actually is
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2669[14:45:17] <Iridos> no, you want #debian-offtopic for that
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2671[14:46:12] <Iridos> dadabong_, might not be a command...
processes can talk via dbus and whatnot directly
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2672[14:46:25] <Iridos> but you're probably looking for
something like xscreensaver-cmd -l
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2675[14:46:36] <Iridos> s/cmd/command/
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2684[14:49:42] <iggyZiggy> hello, i'm having touchpad
issues, anyone in the mood to help me out?
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2686[14:50:35] <dadabong_> Iridos, is there a way to locate
specifically where my lock program is at? ive tried looking for that
one, gnome-screensaver, i3lock, slock, xlock, lightdm... cant find
anything anywhere in my file system. if i search lock itll give me a
bunch of clock programs
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2687[14:50:40] <hassoon> jubo2: whenever you want to how to
extract a given archive but you forgot which are the right options
for a given archive's format, do man tar|grep
<archive_format>; and grep will give you the right options to
use with tar; is that any helpful ?p
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2689[14:52:22] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: well what is the problem
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2693[14:52:51] <hassoon> other than the fact that there is one
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2697[14:53:49] <iggyZiggy> buttons are not mapped correctly,
i'm getting right click for left click
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2698[14:54:02] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: what os your DE
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2699[14:54:04] <hassoon> what is *
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2700[14:54:15] <iggyZiggy> gnome
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2701[14:54:33] <iggyZiggy> i switch it in settings
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2702[14:54:44] <iggyZiggy> and now enabled tapbuttons
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2703[14:55:03] <iggyZiggy> but on tap is also right click instead
of left click
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2704[14:55:35] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: there must be some option to
set that
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2705[14:55:59] <iggyZiggy> i'm trying with synclient
option=value
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2706[14:56:35] <hassoon> nah i mean the GUI settings, i have it
in my kde touchpad settings, and so you
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2707[14:56:45] <hassoon> * do you
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2708[14:56:54] <jubo2> hassoon: That is a very good note on how
to properly do piping
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2709[14:57:33] <hassoon> jubo2: you found that useful didn't
you? :v
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2710[14:57:51] <iggyZiggy> in mouse&touchpad setting i have
only few options
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2711[14:58:23] <jubo2> hassoon: Yeah.. I never knew I can pipe
man output
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2712[14:58:30] <hassoon> jubo2: sure you can
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2713[14:58:34] <jubo2> Now I knows
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2714[14:58:43] <hassoon> karimb: bien pour toi
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2715[14:58:52] <jubo2> My mum surprises me
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2716[14:59:29] <hassoon> jubo2: imma fill your mouth with tens of
grams of cheese, nab.
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2717[14:59:31] <hassoon> :D
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2721[15:00:10] <jubo2> After using a mac as her primary means of
computations since 5-6 yrs she was like "Oh I didn't know
you could do that!" when I instructed her to ctrl-click on the
thingy to achieve what she wanted to achieve
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2722[15:00:51] <jubo2> That happened this summer
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2724[15:01:03] <iggyZiggy> ok, fixed tap click by setting
synclient TapButton1=3 and TapButton3=1
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2725[15:01:09] <jubo2> I don't know how she managed to use a
Mac for all that time and not know about it
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2727[15:01:19] <jubo2> upside: she cooks good
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2728[15:01:20] <iggyZiggy> but phsical right button is still
middle click
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2735[15:02:28] <ToHellWithGA> my root partition, at the size
Debian automatically chose when partitioning, is full. nearly half
of the space is used by /var/log/messages and /var/log/user.log
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2738[15:02:43] <ToHellWithGA> is it okay to delete those two
files?
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2740[15:03:39] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: try this package
kde-config-touchpad
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2742[15:03:53] <hassoon> !dpkg kde-config-touchpad
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2743[15:04:03] <nkuttler> ToHellWithGA: sounds like you should
install logrotate
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2744[15:04:04] <hassoon> !dpkg package kde-config-touchpad
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2746[15:04:11] <nkuttler> ToHellWithGA: how old are the entries
at the top?
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2749[15:05:28] <iggyZiggy> installing
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2752[15:07:40] <iggyZiggy> hassoon how do i run it?
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2755[15:08:25] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: in your prgrams menu, type
touchpad, and you'll see a configuration pragram for touchpads,
i guess
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2756[15:08:48] <Iridos> dada..
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2757[15:08:58] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: howdy.
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2759[15:09:03] <iggyZiggy> i have the old mouse&touchpad only
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2760[15:09:08] <hassoon> Iridos: howdy
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2761[15:09:22] <hassoon> iggyZiggy: what you mean by old
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2764[15:09:46] <iggyZiggy> the default one with just a few
options
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2834[15:37:24] <iggyZiggy> any idea how i can remap touchpad
buttons?
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2835[15:37:51] <iggyZiggy> tried with xinput but it doesn't
work
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2850[15:41:53] <x4u3n> iggyZiggy, libinput?
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2852[15:42:45] <x4u3n> iggyZiggy, not run with xinput
set-button-map device?
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2853[15:42:49] <sauna> If I am LDAP user, how can I get the LDAP
structure ( groups, users, etc) ?
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2855[15:44:05] <x4u3n> sauna search in pam.d
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2856[15:44:14] <x4u3n> something auth...
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2857[15:45:14] <sauna> only thing is common-auth, and it has only
some conf options
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2858[15:45:19] <iggyZiggy> i've tried with xinput but
didn't work
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2859[15:45:36] <x4u3n> iggyZiggy, use gnome?
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2863[15:46:58] <iggyZiggy> i'm using gnome
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2864[15:47:01] <x4u3n> sauna, try /etc/{shadow, passwd, groups}
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2865[15:47:13] <x4u3n> iggyZiggy, let me, i know some problems
with it
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2866[15:47:43] <iggyZiggy> ideally i would like to have right key
mapping in other de too
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2870[15:49:11] <x4u3n> iggyZiggy, check log: /var/log/auth.log
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2871[15:49:33] <sauna> x4u3n, I have account on LDAP(provided by
admins, on vacation), it is not in local pc (tthere is nothing in
local machine). There are hundred 100+ users in LDAP
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2872[15:49:58] <sauna> somebody said that this LDAP structure is
public info, but didn't know how to access. I don't know
how to get it either
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2875[15:50:48] <x4u3n> sauna is "passwd" in
nsswitch.conf using "files" keyword before ldap?
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2876[15:50:55] <iggyZiggy> ok, what am i searching for there?
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2877[15:51:09] <x4u3n> iggyZiggy, im searching :P
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2879[15:51:39] <jelly> sauna: "getent passwd",
"getent group"
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2881[15:52:15] <jelly> assuming nss is set up
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2884[15:53:25] <x4u3n> iggyZiggy, like this
replaced-url
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2888[15:53:40] <x4u3n> jelly thank u :P
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2889[15:53:44] <jelly> sauna: or fire up a ldap browser gui of
some sort
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2894[15:54:23] <sauna> I don't know the browser gui url of
ldap
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2896[15:54:43] <iggyZiggy> i don't think i'm the droid
you're looking for
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2897[15:54:43] <x4u3n> check network config
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2932[16:07:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> so to set up an ldap client i
need to understand /etc/pam.d/common-* ?
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2948[16:14:43] <TehRabbitt> so i'm completely stumped.
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2951[16:14:48] <TehRabbitt> apache was working yesterday.
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2952[16:15:06] <TehRabbitt> today I try to restart apache and the
ONLY thing that gets logged as an error is the following:
apache2.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1
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2953[16:15:13] <TehRabbitt> nothing else.
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2954[16:15:16] <TehRabbitt> no syntax errors etc
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2956[16:15:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> try starting it from the command
line yourself.
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2959[16:15:41] <NoImNotNineVolt> though i don't see why that
would give you any more verbose of output :P
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2962[16:16:25] <TehRabbitt> ah nice.
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2963[16:16:26] <TehRabbitt> AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of
/etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
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2964[16:16:26] <TehRabbitt> Invalid Mutex directory in argument
file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}
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2965[16:16:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> ah, this is debian, so i'm
guessing you'd be using apachectl or something
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2966[16:16:32] <TehRabbitt> no idea how the hell that changed.
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2967[16:16:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> there you go.
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2970[16:17:35] <TehRabbitt> NoImNotNineVolt, nothing changed
though, I mean shouldn't those directories be defaults?
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2980[16:20:40] <TehRabbitt> i've been using
/etc/init.d/apache2 restart
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2982[16:20:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> i have no idea.
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2984[16:20:48] <TehRabbitt> yeah :\ neither do I
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2986[16:21:07] <NoImNotNineVolt> does apache.conf evaluate env
vars?
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2988[16:21:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> (this sounds like an apache
httpd question more than a debian question, though)
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2994[16:21:45] <TehRabbitt> NoImNotNineVolt, nope, the config is
clean / no syntax errors
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2999[16:21:58] <TehRabbitt> hence why I think it's something
else causing it... nothing in syslog either
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3001[16:22:11] <NoImNotNineVolt> 10:16 < TehRabbitt>
AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
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3002[16:22:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> emphasis on "Syntax
error" :P
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3005[16:23:11] <TehRabbitt> Mutex file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} default
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3006[16:23:20] <TehRabbitt> which is the default
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3013[16:24:53] <NoImNotNineVolt> that doesn't look like
typical apache2.conf syntax, but i'll take your word for it.
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3014[16:25:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> regardless of whether or not it
is the default, though, it seems to be a syntax error.
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3015[16:25:24] <TehRabbitt> i think i might have figured it out.
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3016[16:25:32] <TehRabbitt> hm.
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3017[16:25:38] <TehRabbitt> now to figure out who changed it -_-
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3018[16:25:53] <TehRabbitt>
replaced-url
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3019[16:25:54] <NoImNotNineVolt> now, to figure out how to get my
ldap working... :P
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3021[16:26:04] <TehRabbitt> oh geez... what are you trying to do
with ldap
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3022[16:26:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> i have a debian box...
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3023[16:26:24] <NoImNotNineVolt> and i have a windows
activedirectory server
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3024[16:26:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> (i know nothing about ldap)
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3025[16:26:52] <NoImNotNineVolt> i want to be able to log into
the debian box using credentials checked against the windows AD
server
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3026[16:27:01] <TehRabbitt> Ahh.
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3027[16:27:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> so i installed libpam-ldap
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3028[16:27:15] <TehRabbitt> I did this a long time ago
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3029[16:27:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> pointed it at the AD server...
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3030[16:27:22] <TehRabbitt> yeah there's something with
libpam you have to do.
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3032[16:27:44] <NoImNotNineVolt> but when i try to connect, i see
in my auth.log: pam_ldap: ldap_simple_bind Can't contact LDAP
server
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3034[16:27:54] <NoImNotNineVolt> which is a rather useless error
message.
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3035[16:28:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> i can ping the LDAP server. i
can establish an rdp session to it. doesn't seem to be a
firewall issue.
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3039[16:28:49] <TehRabbitt> hmm
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3040[16:28:58] <TehRabbitt> IIRC, AD doesn't use standard
LDAP and that's why
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3041[16:29:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> it does, though.
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3043[16:29:10] <NoImNotNineVolt> or, it can, at least.
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3044[16:29:16] <TehRabbitt> NoImNotNineVolt,
replaced-url
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3045[16:29:22] <NoImNotNineVolt> yay
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3046[16:29:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> thanks
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3047[16:29:28] <TehRabbitt> np :P
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3049[16:29:33] <TehRabbitt> that's what I used the last time
I did it
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3086[16:43:55] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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3090[16:44:38] <tobiasBora> I would like to know what is the
simple way to configure my (futur) dhcp server (isc ?) with an
(open) ldap server.
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3091[16:45:02] <tobiasBora> I saw some tutorial on the internet
but they are more than one years old and may be outdated
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3093[16:45:24] <greycat> You think LDAP and DHCP change on a year
to year basis?
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3094[16:45:38] <tobiasBora> (for exemple some of them want me to
apply a patch, but I think that this patch is already present in
isc)
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3096[16:45:59] <tobiasBora> greycat: Well this patch seems to be
pretty recent, so maybe yes...
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3106[16:48:37] <psycose> using a Debian 7 (with root partition on
a SSD disk and LVM), after a power cut, and booting again i got the
message "ALERT ! /dev/mapper/xxxxx does not exist". any
tips about solving this issue ?
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3116[16:52:43] <x4u3n> psycose, i fail something similar, if i
remember properly i solve it with vgchange group :P
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3120[16:55:00] <psycose> thanks x4u3n I will read about it
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3123[16:55:21] <x4u3n> welcome
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3124[16:55:33] <ChemTom> what's in your mapper directory?
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3135[17:00:19] <iggyZiggy_> can i change touchpad driver and how?
it's not working correctly and i don't know what to do
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3140[17:01:47] <psycose> ChemTom, i don't know as i land in
a busybox (initramfs) shell as I get "Gave up waiting for root
device"
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3173[17:13:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> so that debian+activedirectory
tutorial isn't working for me either.
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3174[17:13:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> failing at the kerberos step.
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3177[17:14:09] <jelly> !tutorials
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3178[17:14:10] <dpkg> A very common problem is that some people
prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to
setup their system without reading the documentation or
understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they
have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they
sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial.
This is not The Proper Way.
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3189[17:15:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> i was really, really hoping i
wouldn't have to learn about microsoft activedirectory to pull
this off.
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3192[17:16:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm getting frighteningly
close to sysadmin territory :P
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3195[17:16:35] <freehck> Hello people.
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3196[17:16:40] <sharkman> i just did apt-get install expect, but
when i run a script trying to use it it crashes, /usr/bin/expect:
bad interpreter: No such file or directory
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3197[17:16:44] <jelly> NoImNotNineVolt: we usually just do ldap
auth instead, works for separate services and apache vhosts
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3198[17:17:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> isn't that what the same
thing?
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3199[17:17:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> s/what//
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3200[17:17:05] <sharkman> what am i doing wrong? do i need to
move expect from some hidden location to /usr/bin/expect ?
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3201[17:17:11] <freehck> Could somebody answer how long does it
usually takes to get a response from request@bugs.debian.org?
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3202[17:17:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> isn't AD an ldap server
implementation?
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3204[17:17:31] <greycat> sharkman: Either your shebang line has a
Carriage Return on it, or you've got multiple versions of Tcl
installed, one of them in /usr/local, which is bad.
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3208[17:17:52] <jelly> NoImNotNineVolt: that's why it works.
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3211[17:19:00] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, doesn't it work by
using kerberos under the hood?
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3212[17:19:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> i don't get it.
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3213[17:19:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> so, i was given the hostname of
the activedirectory server to auth against. do i need more
information than just that?
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3214[17:19:57] <NoImNotNineVolt> kerberos realm, etc?
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3219[17:20:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> i have no idea what a
'realm' is, and i was hoping i wouldn't have to for
this to work :P
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3221[17:21:04] <greycat> My general inkling is that a
"realm" is like an NIS domain. But I could be totally
wrong.
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3222[17:21:10] <greycat> I don't do Kerberos, and I
don't do LDAp.
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3223[17:21:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> jealous.
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3225[17:21:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> i also have no idea what a NIS
domain is.
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3226[17:21:33] <jelly> NoImNotNineVolt: if you're doing ldap
auth, you need: ldap server; base dn; a bind dn (user and password
to initially bind as, to be able to make queries)
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3227[17:21:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> this will be a fun task :P
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3228[17:22:01] <greycat> jelly: I believe his question is
"How do I authenticate from a Debian process against a
Microsoft server"
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3229[17:22:08] <NoImNotNineVolt> not really.
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3231[17:22:23] <jelly> greycat: that's what I gathered from
pam_ldap being mentioned
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3232[17:22:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> how do i accept logins from
people using the same credentials they set up on this
activedirectory server.
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3233[17:22:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> on my debian box.
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3234[17:22:36] <jelly> NoImNotNineVolt: logins to what?
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3235[17:22:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> the debian system itself.
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3236[17:22:47] <jelly> their login shell?
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3237[17:22:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> sure.
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3238[17:23:03] <jelly> you will need more than just auth then,
you will also need nss
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3239[17:23:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> there's some web stuff
running too, and it accepts any valid local credentials
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3240[17:23:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> but i don't want to create
user accounts for everyone that's supposed to use it, as they
have AD accounts already
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3241[17:23:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> i was hoping i could just point
this debian box at the AD server so that AD accounts "just
work" on the debian box.
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3242[17:23:48] <jelly> web stuff, and specific PAM-enabled
services, are easier to deal with than shell users.
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3243[17:24:26] <NoImNotNineVolt> i have no idea how the web stuff
works either (i'm very, very new to auth), beyond the fact that
it's [system] group based.
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3246[17:25:08] <jelly> you're in for a world of pain, then
:-)
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3248[17:25:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> i.e. i create a local account
foo, i add it to group web_ui_admin, they can then log in to the web
ui and have access to the admin panel...
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3250[17:25:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> so what i want to do is have any
accounts that auth against the AD server to automagically be in one
specific group...
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3251[17:26:02] <NoImNotNineVolt> and then everything should work.
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3253[17:26:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> but i'm starting to feel
this world of pain already :\
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3254[17:26:35] <jelly> then you're going to need nss
(resolving of users and uids and groups and gids) from ldap (ad)
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3257[17:27:07] <jelly> I've never set that up so can't
comment.
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3259[17:27:27] * NoImNotNineVolt starts reading
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3261[17:27:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> thanks :)
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3265[17:29:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> presumably there's a way to
get a lot of these settings from the AD server itself? i have rdp
access to it, but i'm not a windows guy and have no idea how to
do anything with AD...
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3266[17:29:28] <NoImNotNineVolt> i guess that's a good place
to start, though?
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3279[17:32:36] <sharkman> hm i guess i have more than one version
of Tcl installed, but i dont remember installed Tcl or even know
what it is is
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3281[17:33:05] <greycat> Then why do you "guess" you
have multiple installations of it?
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3283[17:34:08] <greycat> What does the first line (the shebang)
of your script say?
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3286[17:35:49] <sharkman> #!/usr/bin/expect -f
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3288[17:36:08] <sharkman> i dont think there is a carriage return
on that line
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3291[17:36:31] <greycat> well, the -f would suck up the CR even
if there were...
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3295[17:38:07] * greycat tests with a very short script, and it works
for me...
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3296[17:38:14] <sharkman> based on dpkg --ist i have tcl
installed, tcl8.5 and tcl8.6
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3297[17:38:22] <sharkman> *dpkg --list
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3299[17:38:50] <greycat> adding a ^M to the shebang line after
the -f gives ``": no such file or directory'' which
is not what you got, so that's not it
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3301[17:39:20] <sharkman> it looks like your other guess was
right that i have different versions of TCL installed
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3303[17:39:36] <greycat> multiple *debian* versions of tcl
shouldn't even be a problem either...
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3304[17:39:59] <sharkman> i have libtc8.5:amd64, lbtcl8.6:md64,
tcl, tcl8.5, tcl8.6
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3305[17:40:01] * greycat tries installing tcl8.5
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3310[17:40:39] <greycat> No, that does not break it.
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3312[17:41:05] <greycat> Do you have /usr/local/lib/*tcl* ?
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3313[17:41:11] <sharkman> my original guess is that when i did
apt-get install expect it got installed somewhere that wasnt
accessible by "/usr/bin/expect"
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3316[17:41:45] <greycat> ls -ld /usr/bin/expect
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3317[17:41:52] <sharkman> no, i dont see anything tcl in
/usr/local/lib
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3321[17:42:54] <sharkman> oh im sorry i found the problem
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3323[17:43:35] <sharkman> when i installed it said it was missing
dependencies ad to run "apt-get install -f" so i ran that
and assumed it installed expect. but i guess that installed all the
dependencies but not expect itself
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3325[17:44:02] <sharkman> i just looked for the /usr/bin/expect
folder as you said and it didnt exist, so i realized what
happened...
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3328[17:45:18] <greycat> (/usr/bin/expect is a program, not a
directory)
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3335[17:48:27] <sharkman> yes good point
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3336[17:48:30] <ToHellWithGA> nkuttler: entries at the tail or
head of the thing?
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3337[17:48:34] <sharkman> yeah i nstalled it, i see the program,
its owrking now, thank you
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3339[17:48:42] <ToHellWithGA> had to run to a job site, just got
back to the computer
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3345[17:50:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o eir
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3346[17:50:11] *** eir sets mode: -bo
*!*@78-67-125-136-no247.tbcn.telia.com eir
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3351[17:52:59] <ToHellWithGA> the oldest are from the 19th, the
newest from the 29th (today local time)
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3353[17:53:28] <ToHellWithGA> almost all of them are from
gnome-session
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3357[17:54:36] <ToHellWithGA> 22 million log lines include
"gnome-session". that's absurd. i can't read
that many lines.
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3358[17:55:40] <x4u3n> xD
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3364[17:58:03] <ToHellWithGA> is that logrotate job able to cut
the logs off at a fixed length?
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3367[17:58:29] <ToHellWithGA> if i were a real sysadmin maybe
i'd give a crap about logs, but i only use logs to troubleshoot
once in a blue moon.
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3377[18:04:52] <x4u3n> ToHellWithGA, do a prerotate script
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3383[18:06:43] <x4u3n> ToHellWithGA, maybe:
replaced-url
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3385[18:07:13] <ToHellWithGA> i'm all for installing
logrotate, x4u3n. what should i do now though, with "0"
free on the partition?
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3386[18:07:26] <ToHellWithGA> is there any harm in just
cat'ing an empty file to the log?
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3390[18:08:39] <x4u3n> ToHellWithGA, it's impossible break
free space? or add new one?
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3392[18:09:47] <x4u3n> sorry my english
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3393[18:09:47] <x4u3n> :P
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3394[18:10:23] <ToHellWithGA> E: IO Error to output - fwrite (28:
No space left on device)
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3395[18:10:39] <ToHellWithGA> ^ what i get when i try to aptitude
remove some random program to free up a few MB
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3396[18:11:05] <x4u3n> try to delete logs sudo rm /var/log/*.1
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3398[18:11:29] <x4u3n> or check space with du -bsh /
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3399[18:11:33] <Powerless> does anyone know where to download
debian 8?
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3401[18:12:01] <Eisc> Powerless, the Debian website? :)
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3403[18:12:12] <mtn> must be a trick question
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3404[18:12:16] <Eisc>
replaced-url
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3405[18:12:22] <Powerless> Eisc, didnt find it there. only 8.5
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3408[18:12:36] <x4u3n> Powerless,
replaced-url
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3409[18:12:37] <x4u3n> :P
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3410[18:12:50] <TomTomTosch> 8.5 is the current point release of
debian 8 jessie.
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3412[18:13:03] <Powerless> i want the old version
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3413[18:13:40] <x4u3n>
replaced-url
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3417[18:13:56] <ToHellWithGA> x4u3n: that made enough space for
me to determine that logrotate is already installed
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3419[18:14:07] <ToHellWithGA> now i just need to configure it :-/
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3424[18:14:34] <x4u3n> ToHellWithGA, you will enjoy doing it
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3425[18:14:35] <x4u3n> xD
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3426[18:15:06] <Eisc> Powerless, for curiosity's sake, why
do you want an old version?
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3428[18:15:19] <ToHellWithGA> i enjoy having space on / a lot
more than i enjoy pretending i'm a sysadmin
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3429[18:15:24] <x4u3n> create a profile into /etc/logrotate.d/
and charge with logrotate -d or chgarge logrotate -f -v
/etc/logrotate.d/file.conf
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3431[18:15:50] <x4u3n> xD ToHellWithGA im sure you will find
something to delete :P
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3432[18:16:01] <Powerless> thanks
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3434[18:16:23] <Powerless> Eisc, cause the app i wanna install
asks for this version
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3435[18:16:33] <ToHellWithGA> x4u3n: honestly i'm thinking
all logs and making the /var/log/ directory ro
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3438[18:16:56] <ToHellWithGA> i'd rather turn logging on
when i need it than have it gobble up all my free space when i
don't pay attention to it
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3439[18:17:03] <Eisc> Eisc, does it not work on 8.5?
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3442[18:17:10] <Eisc> Powerless, *
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3443[18:17:43] <Powerless> not sure...downloading just in case...
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3444[18:17:43] <Eisc> 8.5 isn't a new release.. it's
just updated packages. If you install 8.0 and apply updates, you
will be running the same as 8.5
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3445[18:17:49] <Eisc> Don't bother
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3447[18:17:51] <Eisc> Get 8.5
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3449[18:18:15] <leba2> In the iso download page I see the several
debian isos, either for cd and dvd cases. But what are those
"debian-update-8.5.0...." for?
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3452[18:18:32] <Eisc> Powerless, are you new to Debian or Linux
in general?
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3457[18:19:16] <Powerless> some apps dont install on different
kernels for example NCOMPUTING softwares only work on ubuntu 14
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3458[18:19:21] <Powerless> or something
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3461[18:19:32] <Eisc> Debian Stable doesn't change the
kernels
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3465[18:20:17] <Eisc> Debian 8 uses a 3.16
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3466[18:20:45] <Eisc> Only difference between 8.0 and 8.5 is the
security updates etc
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3467[18:20:56] <Eisc> So installing Debian 8.0 only to upgrade is
a waste of time I think :)
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3468[18:21:12] <Powerless> will try this 8.5 then..lets see :)
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3469[18:21:19] <Eisc> I'd be very surprised if 8.0 works and
8.5 doesn't
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3470[18:21:22] <leba2> In the iso download page I see the several
debian isos, either for cd and dvd cases. But what are those
"debian-update-8.5.0...." for?
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3471[18:21:30] <RoyK> Powerless: you can use a kernel from
backports
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3472[18:21:35] <RoyK> !backports
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3473[18:21:35] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian
branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency
and <ABI> complications.
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3479[18:22:29] <Eisc> RoyK, issue isn't upgrading kernel,
it's about understanding that 8.0 and 8.5 are not different
"releases"
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3480[18:22:33] <Powerless> RoyK, does it work with ubuntu? that
would help me a lot
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3482[18:22:42] <Eisc> Powerless, Ubuntu has backports also
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3484[18:22:52] <TomTomTosch> leba2: it's the update to the
next point release if you have an old install and no