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18[00:06:53] <bravvve22> so ngnix is http server?
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21[00:07:52] <somiaj> yes
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114[00:45:33] <pflanze> I'm looking for a way to turn a device number as returned by stat calls into the file system type.
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116[00:45:53] <pflanze> I'm currently parsing /proc/mounts but just realized that this can fail when run as non-root user.
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118[00:46:51] <somiaj> so you want to be able to determine what file system is on a paticular partition?
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120[00:47:49] <pflanze> On a particular path, yes.
121[00:47:50] <somiaj> df -T will list the file systems of mounted partitions.
122[00:48:09] <somiaj> blkid -o list, will list them for all blk devices detected by the kernel, though you might need root for this
123[00:48:27] <pflanze> df has the same problem, it fails when run as non-root (and the partition is mounted at a place that's not accessible)
124[00:49:03] <somiaj> you might run into that with any method, unless you say set up a script to write this to a file at boot time
125[00:49:14] <somiaj> lsblk -f works for me as non-root, but I don't have any file systems my user cannot see
126[00:50:05] <pflanze> blkid and lsblk are neat, and they actually don't fail.
127[00:50:14] <pflanze> But they don't list the device number.
128[00:50:19] <somiaj> running /sbin/blkid seems to run as a normal user
129[00:50:23] <somiaj> what do you mean by device number?
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131[00:51:35] <pflanze> perl -we 'print((stat("."))[0],"\n")'
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133[00:52:23] <pflanze> So, I've got a path, I stat it, now want to know the filesystem type (by getting the device number and resolving that, which is neatly cachable)
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135[00:52:37] <somiaj> I still don't know what that number actually means, maybe there is a way to turn the device number into a partition
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137[00:53:01] <pflanze> That number represents the device number of the backing device of the file system.
138[00:53:53] <pflanze> I guess I can look up the device nodes like /dev/sdc10, they are representing these device numbers,
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140[00:54:23] <pflanze> but I worry a bit that there may be devices that are not in /dev/, for example.
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142[00:56:10] <pflanze> I'm not even sure how to read the device number from the dev entries (or their split major/minor sub-numbers)
143[00:56:24] <pflanze> without resorting to parsing ls -l output.
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146[00:58:05] <somiaj> maybe someone familar with perl could help more. But you could also write a simple loop in perl and start with the cwd, strip off one directory at a time until it matches one of the mountpoints in lsblk
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149[00:58:27] <somiaj> so take the cwd, and strip off one /foo at a time until you get a match for the mount point
150[00:59:07] <pflanze> somiaj, same problem with unreachable mount points.
151[00:59:38] <pflanze> I'm actually worried about mount --bind of such mount points, a practice I actually do.
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153[01:00:21] <pflanze> But just realized that the bound mount point has to be reachable, hence my original approach should actually still work if I accept to ignore failures for those mount points which are not reachable.
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155[01:01:12] <somiaj> still unsure what the device number is as it is not teh major:minor device node info
156[01:01:32] <pflanze> IIRC it's major* 256 + minor
157[01:01:55] <somiaj> in that case you could turn the device number into major:minor and use that to find the device in lsblk
158[01:03:00] <pflanze> How? can't find any mention of device / major / minor numbers in man lsblk
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160[01:03:19] <somiaj> pflanze: by default here 'lsblk' lists the MAJ:MIN of the device
161[01:03:37] <pflanze> Ah yep, seeing it now. Thanks!
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163[01:04:00] <pflanze> Time for some strace
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201[01:29:26] <dokma> debootstraped onto sdd1. How do I tell the host grub to try and boot from sdd1 only on the next boot? I didn't run update-grub on the host.
202[01:29:48] <dokma> Is there some sort of chain boot?
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205[01:30:29] <dokma> I have grub installed on sdd.
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211[01:32:32] <somiaj> dokma: grub does have a small shell you can manually tell things to boot from, though update-grub with os-prober might be the easiest becaue then you can just select the other patition from a menu
212[01:32:55] <somiaj> you can look up the syntax how to manually tell grub to boot from a kernel/root/initrd image
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216[01:34:30] <dokma> ahhh... yes I forgot about that...
217[01:34:38] <dokma> thanks a bunch!
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313[02:33:52] <Vladimir77> I hawe question ucs-server + opsi + samba share access, can someone help me ?
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317[02:35:21] <Sveta> only if you ask
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319[02:36:03] <Vladimir77> pleas help
320[02:36:26] <Sveta> please provide all details here now
321[02:36:31] <Sveta> what's the problem
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323[02:36:53] <Sveta> (if you don't ask then people won't know what is going on, they will not be able to help you)
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327[02:38:33] <Vladimir77> I can not log in as administrator to ucs / Opsi share
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329[02:39:25] <Vladimir77> from win 10
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335[02:43:02] <Vladimir77> #/etc/samba/smb.conf
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341[02:46:29] <Sveta> Vladimir77: what error message are you getting?
342[02:46:50] <Sveta> Vladimir77: did it work before?
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350[02:52:03] <Sveta> Vladimir77: you can not log on to shared network drive. The share is generated from Opsi server. What error message do you get?
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353[02:54:39] <Vladimir77> the access is denied
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371[03:02:18] <Vladimir77> I do not know if you have already tried Univention Corporate Server and if you are familiar with Opsi deployment management. Everything is installed and working but I do not know where I changed samba config needs to change the access because I get there
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396[03:14:28] <no_9> i think i know the answer to this, but here goes anyway: is it possible to use backports in testing?
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438[03:40:55] <vasp> im a total n00b, so this may be a stupid question here... but I was just wondering. I've been told that ubuntu has better hardware recognition when compared with debian. Is this really true? Is this why ubuntu is so bloated?
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443[03:43:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> vasp, I think Ubuntu mainly offers to install extra drivers including proprietary ones out of the box
444[03:44:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> Not sure that's the reason for bloatiness.
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446[03:44:56] <vasp> oh I see, that makes sense.
447[03:44:56] <somiaj> vasp: hardware is mostly tied to the kernel, ubuntu releases faster and usually has a newer kernel and as Eduard_Munteanu mentioned, ubuntu will include non-free firmware and binary drivers by default. The bloatiness is just dependent on which collection of packages installed, maybe the full unity desktop is more bloated than a smaller desktop or wm, but I think gnome and kde in debian are just as 'bloated'
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449[03:45:23] <somiaj> but in many cases (there are a few exceptions) if hardware works in ubuntu it will work in debian, debian may just require some extra work to get it to work.
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452[03:45:39] <Nikon> hello
453[03:45:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hi Nikon
454[03:46:10] <vasp> thanks somiaj and Eduard
455[03:46:16] <Nikon> i need to include firmware in to my iso so i can boot it on my server, its currently non functioning due to non-free network drivers
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458[03:46:32] <Nikon> i have the drivers but i dont know how to bake them in to an iso i can use in reinstall the os
459[03:46:40] <somiaj> Nikon: debian provideds non-free isos.
460[03:46:42] <somiaj> !firmware images
461[03:46:42] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See replaced-url
462[03:46:56] <somiaj> Nikon: the install guide also explains how to put the firmware on a seperate usb drive to get used during teh install
463[03:47:10] <Nikon> replaced-url
464[03:47:17] <Nikon> oh i cant have more than 1 usb
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466[03:47:23] <Nikon> it literally has two usb slots
467[03:47:42] <Nikon> one for keyboard and the other for the usb itself
468[03:47:43] <somiaj> Nikon: i would just download the unoffical (meaning it has non-free firmware) netinstaller
469[03:47:48] <Nikon> okay
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471[03:48:02] <somiaj> there is also one for jessie, the bot linked the one for stretch. look around for the jessie one
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474[03:51:26] <Devastator> kmuto?
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482[03:53:37] <Devastator> !kmuto
483[03:53:37] <dpkg> *No Longer Maintained* - Unofficial images for installing Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" using a later kernel (Linux 3.2.4) are available from replaced-url
484[03:53:50] <Devastator> ah, it is from squeeze
485[03:53:58] <Devastator> damn, I'm getting old
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491[03:55:16] <mnuhmnuh> me too.
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517[04:06:46] <Nikon> hmm
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519[04:06:59] <Nikon> it still cant connect :/
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522[04:07:44] <Nikon> i have the firmware but it still doesnt detect a connection
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528[04:11:50] <Sveta> does it have the firmware in lsmod?
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577[04:34:39] <LiuYan> Nikon: I have a DELL R710 server which use bnx2 driver/module, the firmware file needed to be placed inside the /firmware directory of the USB drive filesystem
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579[04:35:17] <Nikon> LiuYan: I tried to do that but it didnt even load the usb in that case
580[04:35:29] <Nikon> Sveta: its loaded but not used
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587[04:37:45] <kirk781> Does anybody use FVWM? It's a giant pain to use the first time.
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592[04:39:03] <Tramp> kirk781: I do - and they have a pretty helpful channel here too (last time I looked)
593[04:40:14] <kirk781> Tramp: I used it the first time yesterday and it looked weird[weirder than Enlightenment or even i3] for some reason.
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595[04:41:08] <Tramp> kirk781: well, I use it for some 20+ years now, so everything else looks weird to me :)
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597[04:41:31] <kirk781> Tramp: Wow, that's a really long time
598[04:41:50] <Tramp> kirk781: though I'm pretty sure no 2 fvwm-setups look alike
599[04:42:12] <LiuYan> Nikon: There's a live version of non-free cdimage, maybe you can try that to see if you can your network up: replaced-url
600[04:43:05] <DRAGNSLYR> hey
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602[04:43:23] <kirk781> Tramp: Wew, FVWM has quite a history. Older than Gnome as well.
603[04:44:06] <Tramp> much older. First it was fvwm, then fvwm2, then fvwm2 became fvwm ...
604[04:45:49] <kirk781> Huh, is it like the oldest one still in development?
605[04:47:21] <Tramp> I doubt it - but I really don't know.
606[04:47:48] <Nikon> okay i'm gonna give that a shot
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608[04:48:37] <numbdewd> I seeem to have a bit excessive amount of python packages installed thru "pip .. " - any way to find out which do not have any dependencies, are large in size or such or otherwise tolerablee for deletion..? Afraid I have many Ill never get to use even, or at all remember having..
609[04:48:53] <numbdewd> also possibly likewise with gems..
610[04:49:09] <Sveta> replaced-url
611[04:49:13] <Sveta> ... better. To each their own." -- Donald Knuth, 2008
612[04:49:48] <numbdewd> Putty works well , too
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625[04:56:32] <Nikon> @LiuYan its still not picking up anything during install
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628[04:58:46] <LiuYan> Nikon: try boot the live cd, not install it, will it bring up your network?
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649[05:13:39] <Nikon> @LiuYan Do you need to pre configure the network port?
650[05:13:47] <Nikon> it has settings already in the PXE
651[05:13:51] <Nikon> that are incorrect
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653[05:15:05] <LiuYan> Nikon: When I install, I didn't touch the PXE settings
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667[05:27:08] <Nikon> okay
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669[05:29:16] <somiaj> Nikon: did you get the firmware, or did you download the firmware installer? It hsould have the firmware on it (though there are some exceptions for firmware debian cannot distribute)
670[05:29:51] <Nikon> i'm trying to load it
671[05:29:54] <Nikon> its not doing well
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675[05:35:11] <somiaj> trying to load it? Again have you tried the premade firmware installer.
676[05:35:39] <somiaj> you can also install a base system from the netinstall and then get the firmware/network working after, and then install the rest of the software youw ant
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710[06:00:10] <metax> i am trying to install debian on ssd on dell poweredge, the server recognizes the disk and moreover I can access the disk via fdisk from the debian installer busybox
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712[06:00:30] <metax> but the installer itself doesn't show any disks in partition selection menu during install
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781[06:53:27] <mms_> android-sdk package says sdk manager deprecated. so what to use ?
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790[06:59:12] <numbdewd> something new.. try something fresh! .. Google is the devil! .. here, hang in there while I crawl some links forya ..sec.. beware-- unless you yaself are deploying malware or related by intent of ur involvement, ha
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792[06:59:20] <Nikon> LiuYan, somiaj it works in the live cd
793[06:59:22] <Nikon> sorry
794[06:59:31] <Nikon> i downloaded the base one first
795[06:59:34] <numbdewd> .. replaced-url
796[06:59:40] <Nikon> but iceweasel in gnome can resolve pages
797[07:00:16] <numbdewd> doing from terminal, package manager..? If so, try Google's own web page specifically for ur platform instead. ..hmh.
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805[07:08:50] <Nikon> why would the debian livecd with gnome be able to autoconnect when the minimal cant
806[07:08:55] <Nikon> i dont understand
807[07:08:56] <Nikon> aaaaaaaaaaa
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813[07:11:05] <darxmurf> morning
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816[07:11:35] <Nikon> 'ello
817[07:11:36] <jak2000> hi all
818[07:12:04] <jak2000> wich version of debian ned download for boot from a usb and copy hard disk1(500gb) to harddisk2(1tb)
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820[07:12:24] <Nikon> jak2000: do you have an ethernet connection?>
821[07:13:03] <jak2000> not
822[07:13:11] <Nikon> then get a dvd
823[07:13:47] <Nikon> replaced-url
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825[07:15:43] <jak2000> this: debian-9.3.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso?
826[07:16:06] <Nikon> yeah grab that
827[07:16:09] <Nikon> are you on windows?
828[07:16:16] <jak2000> now, yes
829[07:16:17] <Nikon> or another linux distro
830[07:16:32] <Nikon> win32diskimager.sourceforge.net i use this
831[07:17:17] <jak2000> can boot with this sw?
832[07:17:26] <jak2000> 12MB?
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836[07:17:59] <Nikon> yeah you can use that to flash your usbn
837[07:18:05] <Nikon> it will wipe it so be careful
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841[07:21:54] <jak2000> i use rufus... its good
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855[07:34:31] <LiuYan> Nikon: if the non-free livecd able to recognized your network adapter, it should works on the non-free netinstall cd too (i guess). >> why would the debian livecd with gnome be able to autoconnect when the minimal cant
856[07:35:52] <numbdewd> or virtualize some environment to run some simplified basic environment in , whatever/wherever, think it may be as simple as doing something like "sudo dd bs=512M if=image_file.iso of=/dev/sdX" (where /dev/sdX is your stick/disk/..)
857[07:36:52] <numbdewd> ive picked out some old memory cards frmo old phones for example to use for such.. besides that those kinds are nice for sake of ease of storing (hiding especcialy!;) as well - tho wouldn't trust any one of those to maintain integrity of the data forever.....
858[07:37:01] <LiuYan> Nikon: when I manually create a live USB, i must copy the firmwares from netinstall cd, because the filesystem on my flash drive is FAT32 which is not able to store symbolic links.
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861[07:37:42] <numbdewd> isnt there packages likke.."debootstrap"...or with similar names; that basically allows u to make a disk image u can mount or get on iso from what uve put in a chroot environment, or had on a virtualized guest..n such... id think be easier and better maybe,hmh
862[07:38:56] <numbdewd> do u know if that applies to exfat as well... and possibly if any FS would be cross-platform compatible while not having such limitations? .. i wouldnt have known that unless u said it (n prlly wont remembe for eventual time Id get to .. Lol), anyway, sounds like FAT32 sucks! eh..hmh.
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867[07:40:23] <mms_> I have debian stretch and windows cygwin connected to same network. windows->debian ping works but ssh says connection refused.
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869[07:41:57] <mms_> even locally on debian ssh does not work and says connection refused
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900[08:07:18] <rant> are you sure ssh is running and you are using the right port to connect?
901[08:07:42] * rant thinks . o O ( is it plugged in, turned on, and do you have any clue what you're doing .. :)
902[08:08:29] <rant> if you're sure that the sshd is running and you're connecting to the right port, the next step is to stop the sshd (service) and run it manually in debug mode, and connect in debug mode..
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904[08:08:54] <rant> ssh has great debug features.. its usually pretty easy to troubleshoot
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913[08:13:58] <zhoujingrui> hi
914[08:14:43] <mms_> rant: ok
915[08:14:47] <mms_> let me check
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920[08:15:47] <mms_> how to start service in debug mode ?
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922[08:16:23] <mms_> I see SSHD_OPTS
923[08:16:24] <rant> dont start it as a service, stop the service, and just run sshd -d (if I recall correctly) from a terminal
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925[08:16:33] <rant> you want to be able to see the output
926[08:16:42] <ikonia> mms_: how are you verifying ssh is running ?
927[08:16:48] <ikonia> mms_: how are you testing it "locally" ?
928[08:16:55] <rant> use sshd -d and ssh -d to connect so you see the output on both ends
929[08:17:11] <rant> it'll show you one one side or the other what the problem is
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931[08:17:53] <rant> I'm going back to bed, its late, I'm tired, and you have been pointed in the right direction and have other capable supporters available ;)
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934[08:19:35] <zhoujingrui> what
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939[08:20:40] <leibniz> inn ppnppp,
940[08:20:52] <mms_> rant: I thought to use service ssh restart
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942[08:21:00] <mms_> rant: seems its not doing any thing
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947[08:22:11] <mms_> I do not see sshd on system seems
948[08:22:18] <mms_> which sshd gives nothing
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950[08:23:30] <rant> well then you figured out your problem
951[08:24:12] <rant> apt install openssh-server
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954[08:24:40] <rant> and do yourself a favor, stop talking to me I'm detaching my terminal and going to sleep :P
955[08:24:49] <rant> others can help you
956[08:24:53] <mms_> sure thanks
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959[08:28:54] <mms_> I have commented out a url from sources.list but seems apt-get update is still updating it
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978[08:35:41] <dm_comp> Why is debian-next by invite only?
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983[08:37:42] <dm_comp> might have a bug. after installing info I get this: info info: No menu item 'info-stnd' in node '(dir)Top'
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1041[09:11:04] <gartral> hey all, I'm on debian 9 and trying to install phpmyadmin, the server is giving me a 404 when I try server-ip/phpmyadmin
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1047[09:18:31] <ikonia> gartral: what does the webserver log show ?
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1058[09:24:48] <m3rlin> gartral: check this --> replaced-url
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1062[09:27:07] <gartral> ikonia: it was that I didn't have a link to phpmyadmin in /var/replaced-url
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1064[09:28:03] <gartral> m3rlin: thanks for the link, however that wasn't the issue
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1066[09:29:06] <numbdewd> put index.html where it should be, see if you see that. login ... iirc(and still would be same); likely can all be setup thru phpmyadmin's config file, at least for use in initial setup as such
1067[09:29:46] <numbdewd> or index.php with <?php phpinfo();?> inside it, to see if webserver handles them scripts..maybe otherwise some permission error or something..maybe depending on the webserver? hmh
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1070[09:31:10] <gartral> numbdewd: i'm hittin the wall that only root@localhost can log in as root...
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1072[09:31:51] <numbdewd> that can prolly be changed in the config file; otherwise how bout some proxy thru some similar script (PHP) perhaps..
1073[09:31:56] <gartral> I can log in as phpmyadmin with the pass i set up at install fine
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1076[09:32:15] <numbdewd> root user should possibly be restricted that way for a good reason
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1078[09:32:39] <gartral> numbdewd: that would work fine, except I have NOOOOOO idea how to set that up
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1080[09:33:16] <numbdewd> and calls as root to query the database only be done locally.. and anyway I'd be wary of enabling remote access (I think it'd have to be selected? unsure..). If able and bother, I'd suggest also change default <whatever>SQL-software port from default as well (just coz .. u never know, rite)
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1082[09:34:05] <numbdewd> hm, i dunno..quick search, but try something like this (or search for similar possibly..) ~> replaced-url
1083[09:34:22] <numbdewd> but, do you Really need to access the root account thru the web panel - is that it?
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1085[09:34:43] <gartral> numbdewd: the issue is I need create databases perms to set up, my network is secure and I would only be logging in from one ip (my desktop). the issue is the server doesn't have a keyboard, monitor or anything
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1087[09:35:05] <numbdewd> you could possibly grant the user rights to manage the database more than you currently are able, if you need, rather than going around the (presumed) security measure and fully allow remote root access from web gui
1088[09:35:31] <numbdewd> oh.. do you have things like...ssh access though..?
1089[09:36:08] <avoid> If you do setup an ssh tunnel - so you can root into the db locally
1090[09:36:11] <numbdewd> or.. anywhere u can find to enable remote access in the config file perhaps..? if not u could use some kinda proxy to make an external conenction intially coming frmo the outside, be forwarded and appear asif coming frmo localhost too i guesss
1091[09:36:32] <numbdewd> yeah sounds a good idea, something like that
1092[09:36:37] <gartral> numbdewd: I have SSH. the server is a rackmount system. ssh tunneling/setting up a secondary admin would work fine, as long as I had create database.
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1096[09:37:28] <numbdewd> u can query database from terminal , no ?
1097[09:37:43] <gartral> I can ssh into my user on the box and use mariadb the issue is... well.. I don't understand mysql command syntax, and I kinda need phpmyadmin to handle thing
1098[09:37:46] <gartral> s
1099[09:37:57] <numbdewd> ..if not, simply sending GET requests as such..smoe basic browser functionality if not even a simple one, thru terminal - in worst case.. but pretty sure u can get direct access to it like that
1100[09:38:01] <gartral> numbdewd: I can... I just don't know syntax
1101[09:38:13] <avoid> Oh...Well most sql gui clients support ssh tunneling, maybe look into that
1102[09:38:31] <numbdewd> cool! ..so u're almost there, just to find how to connect to it...quite simple if it's frmo how I remember it used to be with mysql many years ago (when I last did that..)
1103[09:38:34] <gartral> numbdewd: I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 on desktop
1104[09:39:21] <numbdewd> try type: mysql -u root
1105[09:39:25] <gartral> I can SSH in fine, I have root on all domains (it's a xen system)
1106[09:39:44] <avoid> -p for password prompt afaik
1107[09:39:51] <numbdewd> netstat -natp or such, see what port it listens to..?
1108[09:40:06] <numbdewd> yeah I think he can't specify it directly, will get prompt following that command..(unsure)
1109[09:40:40] <gartral> yep, I'm, logged in MariaDB [(none)]>
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1111[09:40:52] <gartral> but from here.. i'm quite lost
1112[09:41:13] <numbdewd> try see this for now for examples: replaced-url
1113[09:41:22] <avoid> What do you want to do anyways? Create an user and db?
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1115[09:41:27] <gartral> numbdewd: I don't need too reset password
1116[09:42:16] <numbdewd> or add a user, and grant it extensive privileges.. (tho..bad idea- no more than what u know it requires .. )
1117[09:42:28] <gartral> avoid: I need create database perms in phpmyadmin, I have about 9 domUs that all need a database, and I want to minimize code duplication and use ONE database for everything
1118[09:42:33] <numbdewd> ..and possibly remote access even..^^
1119[09:42:51] <numbdewd> many run scripts on external servers to query databases elsewhere, shouldn't be too tricky I think
1120[09:43:09] <numbdewd> ...or simply send data to an off-site database as backup for example too I guess kinda common.. (
1121[09:43:19] <avoid> Aha, well does your mariadb installation listen on its lan interface only? By default it binds to localhost afaik
1122[09:43:21] <gartral> numbdewd: I'm aware, but I still need to set up users and databases for them all ;)
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1126[09:43:50] <gartral> avoid: hold on, I'll test that
1127[09:43:53] <numbdewd> that would indeed be easier thru phpmyadmin, the graphical interface where u can put into "new database"-field the name basically..
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1129[09:44:04] <numbdewd> but otherwise, its also not too hard in sql query in terminal..
1130[09:44:43] <numbdewd> very simply / short I mean... just needa gewgle for the specifics (and to be kinda sure u don't do anything too wrong..). Say if need help in finding ur way around, often it's just a matter of narrowing down the search terms
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1132[09:45:15] <m3rlin> gartral: do you want to create database with specific users?
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1134[09:46:22] <avoid> m3rlin: He wants to create a db, have a user with min privs on that db so multiple vms/cts can access it - if i understood his issue correctly
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1136[09:47:04] <numbdewd> If you don't need it, I would make sure 3306 ( its port, if you keep it at default (which id suggest try avoid - tho may be complications with some scripts later on needing editing then...) ), is blocked by iptables anyway too "just in case".. -- at least try check it from a remote host if it answers (after verifying its listening locally..)
1137[09:47:12] <numbdewd> oh.. that suonds quite simple actually...
1138[09:47:43] <numbdewd> try see..like this?-> replaced-url
1139[09:48:28] <m3rlin> avoid, gartal: or maybe like this --> replaced-url
1140[09:48:51] <numbdewd> also, replaced-url
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1143[09:49:45] <numbdewd> when at sql shell, literally typing simply the following should crate a database: CREATE DATABASE `testdb`; (named testdb in that case..whatever)
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1145[09:50:24] <numbdewd> seeing them examples,can use similar simple lines to create user/pass, assign role/permissions or whatnot, too
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1148[09:50:50] <m3rlin> CREATE USER 'wpuser'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'userpassword'; <-- to create users
1149[09:51:14] <m3rlin> GRANT ALL ON `wp_database`.* TO `wpuser`@`localhost`; <-- grant access for users
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1156[09:55:30] <numbdewd> check replaced-url
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1161[09:57:30] <numbdewd> i think, esp. software such as WP, is often compromised and a user with full rights could with some bad luck (for you that is:d) elevate themselves up or do some trickery to end up with terminal access, as root eventualyl even prolly.. :z
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1164[09:58:27] <numbdewd> replaced-url
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1168[10:01:01] <numbdewd> too many these days seem to think they're safe by packing the variables sent in some compressed/obfuscated JS (editable client-side....), or using http headers, cookie vars or such directly as db input.. or -not rarely- having everything like that nicely tight.. and they just forgot one variable as such in some obscure corner of the site....enabling some "defaced by .." or ransomware dropper-
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1170[10:01:47] <numbdewd> ..page to replace all ur sites, ifnot log all cc-details if processing on the site urself (ifnot simply phishing page, xss, or something ..) too.. lotta nasty stuff may happen, best beware :s
1171[10:02:23] <darxmurf> quick question, using sort, what -k 1,1 means ?
1172[10:02:39] <darxmurf> sorting using the 1st field okay but why ,1 then ?
1173[10:03:03] <darxmurf> as I found this to sort IP addresses: sort -n -t . -k 1,1 -k 2,2 -k 3,3 -k 4,4
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1176[10:04:46] <numbdewd> ...ure referring to some kinda db's query syntax, or that something else..?:d
1177[10:06:27] <numbdewd> (sry if not; went kinda off-topic here a bit *confused* - sry im a n00b to nix in general I'm afraid,so hard to say for sure.. )
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1180[10:07:03] <numbdewd> darxmurf: ..id guess though (hmh..) that it would ilst 1 field starting from the 1st record, possibly?
1181[10:07:36] <numbdewd> try 1,10 or 10,1 or such see if u then get one or ten results and if it starts from result 1 or 10 ..
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1186[10:09:14] <numbdewd> " -k, --key=KEYDEF sort via a key; KEYDEF gives location and type" , "KEYDEF is F[.C][OPTS][,F[.C][OPTS]] for start and stop position, where F is a field number and C a character position in the field; both are origin 1, and the stop position defaults to the line's end."
1187[10:09:25] <numbdewd> (part of the end bit of "sort --help" from a debian 8 terminal
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1190[10:10:31] <alkisg> darxmurf: -k 1,1 means to sort starting with the first key and using only one key. Why, isn't -V enough? echo -e '1.2.34.5\n1.2.9.5' | sort -V
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1202[10:17:30] <jelly> -V is a more recent addition
1203[10:19:42] <alkisg> Should be there in all supported releases...
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1209[10:23:02] <gartral> numbdewd avoid m3rlin that's exactly waht I need, all the VMs are bridged and have static internal IPs, it wouldn't bee hard to set up the exernal firewall to block 3306 and have the VM FWs all accept from specific internal IPS
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1212[10:24:46] <numbdewd> gartral: nice..=) still, ensure permissions are no more than what it requires
1213[10:25:24] <numbdewd> (for the user I mean.. in case someone tamper with a web-script and manage to pass sql query commands as such....and possibly screw around with stuff. best limit the dmg in case such happens^^)
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1218[10:27:53] <gartral> numbdewd: the only webscript I'm worried about is phpbb3, everything else is internal-only
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1220[10:28:23] <gartral> and phpbb3 will have to, by design, have full table perms for phpbb3
1221[10:29:16] <numbdewd> phpbb had numerous critical flaws thru the years... years+ since I last even remember being on such a board tho ,actually.. :d no idea how things are today, but judging by apparent other popular CMS amount of vulns popping up for... prolly best not feel too safe.
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1226[10:30:04] <numbdewd> ..beware addons/plugins/themes... third-party additions.. :d
1227[10:30:06] <gartral> numbdewd: I have full backups running every 24 hours for vg0, which inculdes forums, so even if worst case comes to worse, it won't be a massive loss
1228[10:30:49] <numbdewd> ÿeah, just the database...plus possibly injected scripts to run on the page and served to ur users.. and maybe backdoors somewhere, worst case following with ur backups unnoticed even too..:d
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1231[10:31:30] <numbdewd> ..database pop up for sale with all user credentials on some shady site, but at the time theyre probably more bothered by the ransomware the site served them thru some malicious script so that may be less of a worry (ha, hopefully wont get asbad, but ..)
1232[10:32:12] <gartral> numbdewd: unlikely, I'll also be running squid with av proxy which is what users will connect through. I'm proficient with most admin tasks, hust not database admin
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1234[10:32:20] <Darcidride> Hi, can someone have a look at Bug#884972: Acknowledgement (python-cryptography: [Debian Buster] 'X509_up_ref' call doesn't exist on version 2.1.4-1) please ?
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1238[10:33:32] <numbdewd> gartral: anti-virus is typically only helpful with "old" / "bad" viriis.. beware.. and always buncha ways around waf / ids too,popping up all the time.. hope for the best, but..y'know, expect the worst still.
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1241[10:35:24] <numbdewd> plus... be wary of packing too much on it as well,things like Squid could turn out to have a vuln in it by itself... more than once has things like enterprise-grade anti-virus software , remote administration tool for large gov. networks with full admin rights (en-masse..), root access to mysql accounts open for remote access for some reason,, etc, turned up with critical vulns "outta nowhere".
1242[10:35:49] <jelly> Darcidride: if you're using testing or unstable, try asking in
1243[10:35:52] <jelly> !debian-next
1244[10:35:53] <numbdewd> (I dno, nor much at all about squid really though-besides its some sort of advanced filtering proxy (?)..)
1245[10:35:53] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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1247[10:37:12] <gartral> numbdewd: no, i know
1248[10:37:29] <darxmurf> alkisg: true, -V was good too
1249[10:37:31] <darxmurf> thanks :-)
1250[10:37:36] <alkisg> np
1251[10:37:46] <darxmurf> in fact it was to sort IPtables rules and it works too
1252[10:37:52] <gartral> I aslo have rkhunter running on dom0, if something changes and it wasn't through apt-get, it screams
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1256[10:38:11] <Darcidride> jelly, Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)
1257[10:38:12] <darxmurf> I did not even read after -V in the man page, I thought it was the "Version" argument
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1260[10:38:39] <gartral> numbdewd: can you help me with the sytax of MariaDB [(none)]> CREATE USER 'wpuser'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'userpassword'; what is [(none)]\
1261[10:38:42] <gartral> ?
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1263[10:38:58] <gartral> disregard
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1267[10:40:53] <numbdewd> gartral: check #mariadb or prolly also #mysql which i guuess has mostly ifnot same syntax as such, and may more easily get faster and beter answers to that. I'm a n00b to that all really anyway too, and many years since I last used any of it.. would mostly Google my way to answers too in order to help.. =)
1268[10:41:08] <numbdewd> sorry, apparently just #maria is the place
1269[10:41:17] <jelly> Darcidride: also, you filed that bug half an hour ago. Each package has their own maintainer or maintainer team, they'll look at it when they have time.
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1271[10:42:04] <NetTerminalGene> how can i disable avahi daemon?
1272[10:42:16] <Darcidride> jelly, yes i know, i signal it here yesterday then after a filled a bugreport because nobody wants help me :p, for the debian-next, can you send me an invitation, in this way i can speak with buster devs ?
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1275[10:43:45] <jelly> what invitation?
1276[10:43:53] <jelly> !debian-next
1277[10:43:53] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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1279[10:44:16] <jelly> Darcidride: ^^ different irc network!
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1285[10:47:35] <Darcidride> oh crap, sorry, i will connect me in this network :)
1286[10:47:36] <Darcidride> thank you
1287[10:50:11] <darxmurf> I have a bunch of stable machine with the "old" ethX names for my interfaces. If I remove the udev rules, edit the networking conf and reboot, it will take eno1 and eno2 names ?
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1291[10:51:54] <darxmurf> or should I edit the udev rules to change the name there ?
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1296[10:55:26] <dokma> I've debootstraped and added firmware-realtek. What else does Debian need to raise a wlan0 interface?
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1300[10:56:57] <somiaj> dokma: the firmware is usually enough, provided your device is supported by the linux kernel.
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1302[10:57:26] <somiaj> darxmurf: yes, removing the udev rules will swtich to the perdictable network names in stretch.
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1306[10:59:33] <darxmurf> okay let's try ^^ always fun to do date over SSH \o/
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1309[11:01:40] <somiaj> if doing this remotely be careful, to ensure your network comes back up
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1313[11:03:11] <darxmurf> still waiting for the ping :D
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1317[11:05:37] <darxmurf> well well well... time to go upstairs ^^
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1328[11:12:29] <somiaj> darxmurf: changing interface names will mess with network configuration. Luckly you only have to go upstairs. (:
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1334[11:16:22] <dokma> somiaj: I think iw was needed as well
1335[11:16:29] <dokma> yes?
1336[11:16:51] <xz> hey, I'm brand new aws user. I'm deploying debian 9 image now and amazon web interface asks me to create brand new ssh key pair. I have ssh key pair generated alraedy on some other server that I would like to ssh-copy-id to my amazon instance. Do you know if there is some default password on that amazon debian 9 image?
1337[11:16:51] <dokma> I'm not sure now because I've installed it in the meantime...
1338[11:17:24] <somiaj> dokma: usually I expect that to be installed, but wpasupplicant maybeneed also wireless-tools
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1340[11:17:49] <dokma> I'll try and boot it as it is and let you know...
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1346[11:20:25] <darxmurf> hum can somebody explain me how the system decides the name of the net interface ? I installed a brand new machine this morning, my interfaces are named eno1 and eno2.
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1348[11:20:46] <somiaj> darxmurf: replaced-url
1349[11:20:53] <darxmurf> I removed the udev rules from an upgraded machine and the interfaces changed to eno1p001s or something like that
1350[11:21:09] <somiaj> correct, I thought that is what you wanted.
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1352[11:21:15] <darxmurf> which is not wat I expected. Then I enabled the udev rule to force eno1 and eno2
1353[11:21:40] <somiaj> oh you just want eno1 and eno2, I don't think predictable interface names work that way, they are a bit longer and based off of hardawre info on the card
1354[11:22:00] <darxmurf> yep I know but why on my freshly installed machine it's eno1 and 2 ?
1355[11:22:46] <somiaj> I'm not quite sure on the details on how it gets that name, on the newly installed machine, there is no udev rule?
1356[11:22:52] <darxmurf> nop
1357[11:22:54] <darxmurf> nothing
1358[11:23:46] <somiaj> anything in /etc/systemd/network on the machine that calls it eno1 and eno2?
1359[11:24:37] <darxmurf> nop
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1362[11:24:58] <moldy> hi
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1367[11:27:06] <somiaj> darxmurf: maybe it is the hardware. That link I gave should give you how perdictable interface names work, and stretch uses that by default (unless you override it). I don't know why that one machine of yours is only using part of the interface name.
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1369[11:28:10] <somiaj> darxmurf: but read that link, it might just have somthing to do with the toplogy of the hardware on that system.
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1373[11:30:07] <somiaj> so the names eno1, eno2, are based off of firmware/bios index numbers, while enp2snumber are based off of location (slot) the network card is plugged into. You seemed to have eno1p001s, so it seems to be encorprating both the firmware index number and physical location.
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1384[11:34:12] <moldy> trying to fix a broken system after an update to stretch went wrong. any idea about this error? replaced-url
1385[11:34:46] <celyr> restore the snapshot
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1389[11:35:22] <celyr> tryed to remove and reinstall phyton ?
1390[11:35:42] <celyr> tried*
1391[11:36:09] <moldy> i think there was a manual python installation on this system, not sure
1392[11:36:21] <moldy> i can't reconstruct the past anymore at this point :)
1393[11:36:55] <jelly> moldy: which version of libpython3.5-minimal package is installed? Can you dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libpython3.5-minimal*.deb
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1395[11:37:38] <moldy> jelly: that seems to have worked
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1398[11:37:57] <jelly> then do dpkg --configure -a, next
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1406[11:40:47] <moldy> jelly: replaced-url
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1408[11:43:00] <jelly> fun. I'd probably remove the kde stuff temporarily, and focus on fixing python3-* deps, starting with python3-apt
1409[11:43:28] <moldy> jelly: sounds like a good plan, that's what i'm trying to do right now :)
1410[11:43:28] <jelly> moldy: see if "apt-get -f install" wants to remove too much stuff or not
1411[11:43:37] <somiaj> you could also try apt-get -f install and see if apt can figure a way out of the mess
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1413[11:43:59] <moldy> i don't use most of the kde stuff anyway
1414[11:44:04] <somiaj> aptitude -f install is another option, it can sometimes work things out apt-get can't.
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1416[11:44:36] <moldy> somiaj: i think the root cause is that python is broken: replaced-url
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1420[11:47:00] <moldy> replaced-url
1421[11:47:01] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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1424[11:48:04] <moldy> i really should stop installing my own pythons systemwide ;)
1425[11:48:33] <somiaj> so you think this is a conflict with the debian python version and some other python version you say put in /usr/local?
1426[11:48:57] <moldy> somiaj: yeah
1427[11:49:10] <moldy> somiaj: removing my own python binary from /usr/local/bin fixed it
1428[11:49:28] <somiaj> well the bug report seems to suggest removing the /usr/local version out of the way so the debian system can be used, and python vertial envirometns are a good way aroudn this issue
1429[11:49:43] <moldy> right
1430[11:49:45] <somiaj> yea it is usually suggested to not mess with the python version in debian because as you see install scripts depend on it
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1432[11:51:01] <moldy> nowadays i am using pyenv for this, but back then i was lazy and installed it systemwide even though i knew it would probably bite me eventually, hehe
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1509[12:38:15] <will_f> Hi. Trying to get dhcpcd to assign a static _and_ a dynamic address to the single interface of nodes in a RPi cluster.
1510[12:38:24] <will_f> Anyone know if this can be done?
1511[12:39:18] <will_f> Tried defining two 'profile's in dhcpcd.conf but the second one doesn't result in a static IP alias being assigned.
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1521[12:43:43] <loeken__> will_f, you ll have to create a bridge if you want to assign multiple ips to a a single NIC
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1527[12:45:41] <will_f> loeken__: Thanks, I'll look into that. Didn't look like it was necessary with the far simpler /etc/network/interfaces address assignment mechanism
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1531[12:47:21] <moldy> yay, i think i have a working system again :) thanks, jelly et al.!
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1536[12:49:48] <loeken__> will_f, thats also the same file where you define your bridges, might work with aliases the same way, I just recommended bridges cause ive used them in the past and know they do work :)
1537[12:51:46] <will_f> Thanks!
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1668[14:04:19] <allure> guys, how can I make apache skip the Internal Dummy Connection logging? I wish they continue to happen, but just don't get logged. Is that possible?
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1673[14:06:13] <gpunk> I think you cant
1674[14:06:38] <gpunk> but why you wanna do that ?
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1706[14:30:20] <Haxxa> My log is been spammed with these messages from lxc: audit: type=1400 audit(1513948176.026:515): apparmor="DENIED" operation="file_lock" profile="lxc-container-default-cgns" pid=11302 comm="(ionclean)" family="unix" sock_type="dgram" protocol=0 addr=none
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1708[14:30:28] <Haxxa> anyway to rate limit them or disable appamour messages
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1711[14:31:00] <Haxxa> It's doing its job by blocking but its causing spam in dmesg
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1767[14:58:51] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps
1768[14:59:11] <Eryn_1983_FL> so i am not running xscreensaver but i am still getting this blank screen thing after a few min, its annoying
1769[14:59:29] <Eryn_1983_FL> is this a setting in xdm or xorg? is it the dreaded systemd trying to take over my box??!?!?
1770[14:59:37] <Eryn_1983_FL> where to do start the digging
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1840[15:34:10] <gftg> Eryn_1983_FL: On xfce you can click on the power-manager icon in the systray and fix this. You could also go to setting - power manager.
1841[15:34:17] <gftg> Eryn_1983_FL: Are you on xfce?
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1846[15:35:12] <gftg> Eryn_1983_FL: Anyhow, what I mean is that, even though xscreensaver is not active, these power management options could still turn your display off.
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1850[15:35:28] <soul-d> yeah its the dpms
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1853[15:35:39] <soul-d> xset q
1854[15:35:46] <soul-d> you can see dpms enabled
1855[15:36:21] <soul-d> forgot how to /screen.sh
1856[15:36:21] <soul-d> xset s off
1857[15:36:21] <soul-d> xset -dpms
1858[15:36:21] <soul-d> xset s noblank
1859[15:36:26] <soul-d> er sorry about that
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1863[15:37:29] <soul-d> anyhow that should fix it
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1876[15:46:26] <jhutchins> Roundcube in stable is so broken I've had to revert to Alpine.
1877[15:46:54] <jhutchins> Apparently it is not writing changes to it's cached folders back to the servers. Moved messages remain in the inbox, read messages are still marked as new.
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1880[15:47:21] <jhutchins> There are two plugin packages, but no documentation on enabling the plugins.
1881[15:47:52] <jhutchins> I've spent at least half an hour cleaning up my inbox, and probably have another half-hour to go, then probably an hour writing bugreports.
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1891[15:54:12] <metax> can i change the LUKS key on an opened(unlocked) device?
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1894[15:54:22] <metax> or it's better to close it first then change
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1897[15:55:31] <toruvinn> metax, im just guessing, but by the way it works, there should be no problem. after all, all you're doing is creating a new keyslot by encrypting the ACTUAL encryption key with your password...
1898[15:55:32] <CutMeOwnThroat> jhutchins, hm, well… email's only been around for a couple of weeks… you can hardly expect stable clients with a good usability after such a short time…
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1900[15:55:44] <toruvinn> metax, but take backups first. ;-)))))
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1904[15:57:21] <metax> i was mentioning luksChangeKey
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1907[15:57:40] <metax> but probably i should luksAddKey, reboot with that key and delete the old slot
1908[15:58:16] <toruvinn> metax, dont think you need to reboot, that's the point.
1909[15:58:35] <metax> well i am talking about the encrypted root fs :)
1910[15:58:37] <toruvinn> metax, the way it works is that it just encrypts the actual encryption key. once you open it, the key is in memory...
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1913[15:59:14] <metax> encrypts the encryption key -> i don't get it well
1914[15:59:38] <toruvinn> metax, ok, so basically you dont know your real drive encryption key. why do you think you can easily change the password without reencrypting all the data?
1915[15:59:55] <toruvinn> metax, it's because the real key ("password") doesn't change, you just encrypt it with your new password.
1916[16:00:39] <darxmurf> is there something to reload when editing /etc/netgroups ?
1917[16:00:49] <toruvinn> metax, so basically a random key is created when you luksformat and that random key is encrypted with your password. you get it now? :-)
1918[16:01:09] <metax> ah so you tell me that enc.password isn't affected in anyways once the device is unlocked, do i get you right?
1919[16:01:16] <metax> once unlocked, key goes to RAM
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1921[16:01:33] <metax> and i can change the encryption key slot as many as i want
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1924[16:03:01] <toruvinn> metax, changing your key only means changing stuff in the luks metadata. but, again, i definitely dont know everything about that :-P im just guessing that it should be safe since you're only modifying your luks metadata by encrypting the *actual* encryption key with your new password.
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1930[16:03:40] <metax> are you sure it is encryption key?
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1933[16:03:50] <metax> i think it's just a hashed password
1934[16:04:11] <metax> and the password is key
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1939[16:06:44] <toruvinn> metax, not sure i understand you.
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1941[16:07:26] <toruvinn> metax, but think about this, how can you have several passwords for the container? obviously you need the same encryption key to get the data, so how can you have different passwords?
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1943[16:07:47] <metax> well you tell that luks creates some random key in a key-slot once we provide an encryption password
1944[16:08:00] <metax> but i suppose it isn't some random key, but a hash of the password we provide
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1947[16:08:56] <metax> different passwords are achieved by providing metadata space for hashes
1948[16:09:00] <metax> and this number is limited
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1951[16:10:07] <darxmurf> I edited my /etc/netgroup file to add some machine but then I can't mount my nfs from them, I reloaded nfs, nis but what should I run to reload the netgroup file ?
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1955[16:10:26] <metax> 8 slots there
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1973[16:18:20] <toruvinn> metax, yeah, that exactly means there's only one "master key" and it's encrypted with your different passwords. otherwise you'd have different keys for data encrypted with one of the keys, which obviously would not work.
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1975[16:18:50] <iwkse> hi, anyone know why nvidia drivers doesn't install on RT kernels?
1976[16:18:56] <metax> i got it now
1977[16:19:14] <iwkse> version > 375
1978[16:20:09] <toruvinn> metax, therefore changing a password means reencrypting that master key with a new password and overwriting the old keyslot (or adding it to a new one)
1979[16:20:29] <toruvinn> metax, otherwise you'd have to cryptsetup-reencrypt
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1989[16:23:41] <gpunk> why do you use an RT kernel ?
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1994[16:25:45] <iwkse> gpunk: to avoid xruns
1995[16:25:59] <gpunk> what is that ?
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1998[16:27:20] <iwkse> gpunk: audio glitches/scratches
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2002[16:28:15] <gpunk> hmm, you found a workaround, but that is not a real fix ... just my own opinion ...
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2004[16:28:33] <gpunk> RT kernel are not ment for that
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2007[16:28:57] <iwkse> gpunk: for what are meant?
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2009[16:29:28] <gpunk> for real time hardware interaction , in automation systems for example
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2012[16:29:56] <iwkse> gpunk: I'm using audio hardware
2013[16:30:19] <gpunk> all of us too, but that doesnt mean we need RT kernels
2014[16:30:47] <gpunk> your audio hardware has to be solved the right way :)
2015[16:30:52] <iwkse> gpunk: I'm talking about professional audio hardware, daw
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2017[16:31:03] <gpunk> file a bug ...
2018[16:31:03] <iwkse> so RT kernels are needed
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2021[16:32:03] <iwkse> gpunk: I'm trying to install the 375 even if it's not in debian anymore
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2023[16:32:29] <iwkse> the issue is that I need cuda as well, and it's linked with the new drivers so I need cuda as well for their binary :\
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2026[16:34:19] <gpunk> RT kernels are needed in few cases where your
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2029[16:34:44] <gpunk> sound card drivers is not "very fast" or fast enought
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2031[16:35:09] <gpunk> I see
2032[16:35:18] <iwkse> gpunk: with normal kernels I get a bunch of xruns
2033[16:35:30] <iwkse> basically lot of scratches
2034[16:35:40] <gpunk> what errors do you get when you install the driver
2035[16:35:45] <gpunk> ?
2036[16:35:52] <iwkse> they clearly say they don't support it
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2038[16:36:03] <iwkse> but there isn't a link to explanation
2039[16:36:11] <gpunk> ah then we are out of luck
2040[16:36:14] <iwkse> yeah
2041[16:36:16] <iwkse> :(
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2043[16:36:29] <iwkse> they probably changed something
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2047[16:37:21] <iwkse> because 375 it's okey, I think using cuda 8 is going to fix that..but still
2048[16:37:26] <iwkse> I'm stuck to that version
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2051[16:37:50] <gpunk> try to compile your own kernel,
2052[16:38:04] <gpunk> hence you got more choice of versions,
2053[16:38:16] <gpunk> and more control on the kernel
2054[16:38:21] <iwkse> I probably will sell that nvidia card and get an amd, I've read amd drivers merged into the kernel
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2057[16:38:33] <gpunk> yes they are
2058[16:38:37] <iwkse> that's not a problem of kernel, it's nvidia drivers not supporting RT
2059[16:38:43] <iwkse> after 375
2060[16:39:09] <gpunk> yes it is, you may
2061[16:39:21] <gpunk> compile a version that dont need RT
2062[16:39:29] <iwkse> but I need RT
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2064[16:39:35] <iwkse> that's the problem
2065[16:39:45] <gpunk> i explained why you need RT
2066[16:39:58] <gpunk> drivers arent fast enought for your card
2067[16:39:59] <iwkse> I also explained that without a RT kernel I get glitches
2068[16:40:00] <jhutchins> ,v roundcube
2069[16:40:02] <judd> Package: roundcube on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.7.2-9+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 0.7.2-9+deb7u9; jessie-backports: 1.1.5+dfsg.1-1~bpo8+5; stretch: 1.2.3+dfsg.1-4+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.2.3+dfsg.1-4+deb9u1; buster: 1.3.3+dfsg.1-2; sid: 1.3.3+dfsg.1-2
2070[16:40:20] <gpunk> by compiling your self,
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2072[16:40:34] <gpunk> you might get a driver fast enought to not need RT
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2075[16:41:10] <iwkse> for audio I'm using the kernel driver
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2077[16:41:24] <gpunk> yes ...
2078[16:41:26] <iwkse> it won't change if I compile it
2079[16:41:47] <gpunk> you change the kernel parameters
2080[16:41:50] <iwkse> I was compiling it several years ago when RT kernels were not available
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2084[16:42:14] <iwkse> as packages
2085[16:42:27] <iwkse> now it's cool debian includes, it's much better
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2134[17:02:42] <hays> hey guys, setting update-alternatives to python3 seems to break apt. specifically pyclean
2135[17:02:50] <hays> this is on xenial. just letting you know
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2140[17:04:33] <hays> hmm guess i should be in #ubuntu. duh
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2146[17:05:49] <daxkuq[m]> Hi, how do I change `LANGUAGE` in Debian 9.3.0 Xfce4? I've tried with `dpkg-reconfigure locales`, everything is `en_US.UTF-8` now, except for `LANGUAGE`. Unless I do `export LANGUAGE=en_US:en`, but it goes away in new session. Please help.
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2159[17:09:30] <jhutchins> Good grief. 280 packages to install ciderwebmail
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2161[17:09:43] <jhutchins> Could we please just have squirrelmail updated to use PHP7?
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2164[17:10:21] <jhutchins> 207 to install horde.
2165[17:10:27] <Goldschlager120> hello
2166[17:10:45] <jhutchins> !language
2167[17:10:45] <dpkg> somebody said language was a wonderful fucking thing that should be used properly. Every time you hurt grammar, a <knoppix> user joins. To the scientists, language is god. See <$lang>, <language per user>.
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2170[17:11:02] <jhutchins> !$lang
2171[17:11:02] <dpkg> $LANG is an environment variable in a user's .profile or .bash_profile which determines which localization is in effect. Typical values for LANG are e.g. en_US,es_ES or de_DE. Programs read it and switch their output to the language specified.
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2173[17:11:23] <annadane> lol
2174[17:11:36] <jhutchins> daxkuq[m]: Sorry, I don't know the actual answer.
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2177[17:12:21] <Goldschlager120> I'm working on creating an AllStar node on a debian box. But it wants me to use a USB sound device. I just want to use the mic/spkr ports for audio. Can anyone help?
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2181[17:14:26] <daxkuq[m]> jhutchins: Thanks! It works!
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2229[17:35:26] <bacteria_> hi4all
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2235[17:39:14] <yeik> I am trying to troubleshoot I a lock up on my system, using debian sid, and now every time I run specific updates it locks up. Current dpkg --configure -a to try and fix it also locks up.
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2237[17:39:57] <yeik> the last message I see is failed to reload daemon: connection reset by peer, /usr/bin/deb-systemd-helper: error systemctl preset failed on wpa_supplicant.service: no such file or directory
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2254[17:53:27] <will_f> Earlier this afternoon I asked how to configure dhcpcd so I could have a dynamic and a static IP on the same interface (nodes in RPi cluster).
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2256[17:54:27] <will_f> Haven't found an obvious way to do with this dhcpcd but for info I've been able to do what I want with systemd-networkd
2257[17:54:35] <will_f> (using replaced-url
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2275[18:04:17] <pie3> anyone set up blockchain?
2276[18:04:50] <awal1> !anyone
2277[18:04:51] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
2278[18:05:06] <awal1> !ask
2279[18:05:06] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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2281[18:06:51] <annadane> jhutchins, replaced-url
2282[18:07:16] <annadane> pie3, "blockchain" is vague. it entirely depends on what you want to use and for what purposes
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2303[18:19:24] <ppssxx> can anyone tell me what exactly the command "dpkg --configure -a" does to the system?
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2311[18:23:06] <somiaj> ppssxx: --configure will configure an unconfigured package (usually one that failed to configure when you installed it), -a means all, is it configures all unconfigured packages, or packages that failed to configure for some reason.
2312[18:23:24] <ppssxx> thanks
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2314[18:23:47] <ppssxx> that command resolved login screen loop
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2316[18:25:59] <somiaj> most likely a package failed to configure for some reason when it was installed. This shouldn't happen in stable, but can happen when using testing/unstable or doing things to your system that cause the install scripts to fail.
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2325[18:29:05] <ppssxx> my problem with login screen loop arised from running a graphical program from terminal with sudo command. after restarting the machine login screen loop appeared
2326[18:29:36] <ppssxx> and that command resolved it
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2335[18:33:53] <somiaj> ppssxx: and if that command solved it, as I said you had packages that were not properly configured.
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2340[18:36:11] <jhutchins> Best way in the word to discover you've been an idiot: Tell the world that something's broken when it's your configuration.
2341[18:36:20] <jhutchins> What's the best way to cancel a bugreport?
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2343[18:36:57] <penguin42> Where is the signed sha256sums for 8.10 ? replaced-url
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2347[18:39:12] <somiaj> jhutchins: as the ower of the bug report you should be able to close it.
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2350[18:39:32] <somiaj> jhutchins: replaced-url
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2369[18:48:47] <jhutchins> Thanks.
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2371[18:49:37] <jhutchins> It turns out that the reason messages kept popping back up in the inbox is that dpkg doesn't configure dovecot to be able to write lock files in /var/mail, so it can't alter the inbox.
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2373[18:49:59] <jhutchins> (roundcube)
2374[18:50:25] <somiaj> jhutchins: missed the actual issue, but something like that should be documented in maybe the roundcube package or could be a wishlist bug.
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2377[18:50:41] <somiaj> i.e. the package isn't broken, but it would should be nice if it was more automatic...
2378[18:50:53] <somiaj> s/should//
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2387[18:57:17] <jhutchins> somiaj: The problem isn't actually anything to do with roundcube, it'd dovecot. When I saw the same behavior with thunderbird I was able to track it down.
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2390[18:58:12] <jhutchins> somiaj: I think the configure script for dovecot fails to check whether it can lock files in /var/mail. It uses dotfile locking by default, runs as the user, and the user can't create files in /var/mail.
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2393[19:00:04] <zu22> hey everyone
2394[19:00:23] <webmind> hi
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2396[19:00:53] <somiaj> jhutchins: that could be a bug in the dovcecot package. At a minimum I would make sure you explain this in your close bug report so other users can find it. You could also reassign the bug to dovecot and make it minor or wishlist.
2397[19:01:04] <zu22> webmind: my debian stable release is runnning on my VPS flawlessly! yay Debian!
2398[19:01:22] <somiaj> jhutchins: was your fix to make it so any user can write to /var/mail, maybe there is a better way to do this.
2399[19:01:23] <webmind> congrats :)
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2403[19:02:09] <me-1> hi...how to install debian lxde iso
2404[19:02:25] <somiaj> jhutchins: for some reason, not sure on the details, on my system dovecot is using $HOME/mail/ to put the lock file info, this way it can write it as the user to $HOME
2405[19:02:40] <zu22> me-l: put the dvd in your dvd drive, boot up and follow the installer
2406[19:02:41] <somiaj> jhutchins: this is a centos system, but maybe dovecot just needs to be configured differently.
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2409[19:05:43] <me-1> zu22, i want to download cd iso with lxde
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2411[19:06:36] <jhutchins> somiaj: Yes, exactly. There are a number of alternatives, what worked for me was to set mail_privileged_group = mail in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
2412[19:06:41] <somiaj> me-1: do you have a good network connection? If so the netinstaller is a good way to do it.
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2414[19:06:56] <jhutchins> An alternative might be to add users to the mail group, or to change the permissions on /var/mail/
2415[19:06:57] <somiaj> jhutchins: replaced-url
2416[19:07:24] <somiaj> jhutchins: so I agree with what dpkg is doing, in the sense that you dont' want just change permisions by default, but maybe mentioning this in /usr/share/doc/dovecot would be userful to other users.
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2418[19:07:30] <me-1> somiaj, I have few old pentium 4 PCs which I wanted to donate
2419[19:07:34] <jhutchins> dovecot could be more intelligent and fall back to a different lock method.
2420[19:08:15] <somiaj> me-1: you could use a local apt-cacher-ng so you only download things locally instead of from the internet each time, or just grab the lxde iso (not the live image)
2421[19:08:25] <somiaj> me-1: are you not able to find the lxde iso or is your issue something else.
2422[19:08:28] <jhutchins> It could be something unique to my installation. I pre-built a new stretch system and copied some stuff over.
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2424[19:09:27] <somiaj> jhutchins: it sounds to me like the mbox situation. If dovecot was using imap I think this would use $HOME/mail by default thus avoiding the issue. But I know very little about dovecot.
2425[19:09:37] <jhutchins> me-1: Install a minimal no-desktop system with netinst or debootstrap, then add lxde, or choose the package at boot time.
2426[19:09:42] <me-1> somiaj, I am not able to find lxde iso . I only see fxce
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2428[19:10:29] <jhutchins> somiaj: Yeah, it's partly a maildir/mbox thing, but that's part of setting up dovecot and the script should know to check permissions if you set it to use /var/mail/<user>
2429[19:10:32] <me-1> jhutchins, I am affraid I am not expert user
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2431[19:10:44] <jhutchins> me-1: We all started somewhere.
2432[19:11:19] <somiaj> me-1: replaced-url
2433[19:11:19] <jhutchins> me-1: I haven't run the installer very often, but I believe in advanced install you can choose individual packages.
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2435[19:11:29] <jhutchins> !lxde
2436[19:11:29] <dpkg> The Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment (LXDE) is available since Debian 5.0 "Lenny". To install, ask me about <install lxde>. replaced-url
2437[19:11:38] <somiaj> jhutchins: I think the issue is multiple machines, the user would rather not download the packages for each and every machine.
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2439[19:12:08] <somiaj> me-1: I think dvd1 should be sufficent, and you can copy it to a dvd or 4gig + usb thumb drive to install from.
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2441[19:12:31] <somiaj> me-1: it appears they don't make installers for each of the desktops anymore. They do have live images, but it is usually suggested to not install form a live image.
2442[19:13:09] <somiaj> me-1: the other option is if you have a debian machine on your network, setup apt-cacher-ng and just use the netinstaller, this way everything is downloaded and cached on your local network and you don't have to download from the network for each machine.
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2444[19:13:41] <me-1> somiaj, jhutchins Let me explain a bit . I have old Pentium 4 pcs. They might have cd drives not dvds . Before I could download iso which had lxde by default . I want to donate pcs to poor sudents
2445[19:14:30] <somiaj> me-1: there is no lxde installer, just use the netinstaller then (if you don't think they can boot off of a usb drive)
2446[19:15:12] <somiaj> me-1: all installers will give you the option of choosing what de to install at the end, so you can select lxde at the end of the install. And as mentioned you could use apt-cacher-ng to avoid having to download the packages for each and every install, just download them once, and then use your local network cache for the other installs.
2447[19:15:41] <jhutchins> me-1: You are thinking of ubuntu, which pretends every different desktop is a different "version". Debian just has packages.
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2475[19:28:29] <Nikon> hello
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2477[19:28:51] <Nikon> so my message history doesnt go back to my pings
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2479[19:29:50] <Nikon> can anyone tell me why the live cd when booted with gnome will detect my internet conenction when the same cd in text mode for install will not
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2481[19:30:00] <Nikon> and also not once its installed
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2581[20:22:27] <Razva> hey! is there any way to make an installation from the Live CD, without rebooting another netinstall?
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2585[20:23:14] <Razva> (something similar with what Ubuntu has)
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2613[20:38:30] <jhutchins> Nikon: Not without knowing more about your hardware and what the actual state is when the connection is 'not detected'.
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2615[20:39:16] <dissidence> i got this laptop
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2618[20:39:24] <Nikon> its a dell R610 server, the network is detected as eno1-4 or eth1-4
2619[20:39:34] <dissidence> and #debian runs beautifully on first install debian 8.2
2620[20:39:39] <dissidence> well done dudes
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2622[20:39:50] <Razva> mmmmm guys? really no way of easy install Debian from a LiveCD?
2623[20:40:02] <Nikon> jhutchins: i can give you an ip a of live vs install
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2627[20:41:28] <Nikon> Razva: you can use the application install debian
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2629[20:41:58] <Razva> Nikon: I couldn't find any such application when running the LiveCD
2630[20:42:08] <dissidence> does debian install on samsung A5 galaxy too?
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2632[20:42:16] <jhutchins> !networking
2633[20:42:17] <Nikon> is it the gnome live cd?
2634[20:42:17] <dpkg> For basic networking, «man interfaces» and see replaced-url
2635[20:42:25] <Razva> Nikon: yes
2636[20:42:30] <Nikon> jhutchins: i did basic network config
2637[20:42:43] <Nikon> its all wired but it just doesnt work'
2638[20:42:52] <dissidence> guess not suited for mobiles huh well fuck mobiles ... later dudes
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2641[20:43:00] <Nikon> i'll give you whatever you need config and log wise
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2643[20:43:36] <jhutchins> Nikon: You have a couple thousand users on this channel, most of them on a Debian box. Clearly, non-working networking is not a common condition. It's fixable.
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2645[20:44:28] <Nikon> yeah its running on all my other pcs a okay
2646[20:44:31] <jhutchins> Nikon: What chipset is it? Which release of debian? How did you configure it? Is network-manager running? Are you using a GUI? What does ethtool say about the connection?
2647[20:44:38] <Nikon> just this server refuses to work
2648[20:44:50] <jhutchins> !doesn't work
2649[20:44:50] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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2653[20:46:22] <Razva> Nikon: did you found any install debian app on the Live GNOME CD?
2654[20:46:28] <Nikon> when i install theres no gui, i've tried 9.3 and i think its 8.3 right now with the non free live cd on gnome, i've tried installing from this as well with no avail, i tried to get it to auto configure from the installer but nothing on that front, i've maunally configured from the /etc/network/interfaces to no avail as well
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2673[20:53:04] <Nikon> jhutchins: how would i restart networking services when i change the interfaces file
2674[20:53:19] <Nikon> like how do i apply in a running session
2675[20:53:23] <somiaj> just use ifup/ifdown on the interface
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2678[20:54:16] <Nikon> oh
2679[20:54:32] <Nikon> okay so under my install it registers as eno3 but the live cd is eth3
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2681[20:55:05] <somiaj> I think you are mixing to many things together. But you should use the name the install gives.
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2683[20:55:40] <Nikon> no like, it identifies it with ip a on the live cd as eth1-4 and on my actual install as eno
2684[20:55:46] <Nikon> is there any difference?
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2687[20:57:16] <somiaj> just in the name, there is a change to perdictiable interface names, one is the old method, the other is the new. What matters is you use the correct name
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2692[20:59:19] <Themoonisacheese> i just installed and there is a LOT of static on my microphone, any idea why?
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2696[20:59:43] <somiaj> Themoonisacheese: did you check your mixer, sometimes the mic boost is just way to high.
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2698[21:00:05] <Themoonisacheese> it's at 65
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2702[21:00:53] <Nikon> so ifup has no dhcp offers
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2705[21:01:15] <Themoonisacheese> it's not the mic either. using my crappy webcam mic does the same even though it's connected on usb
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2732[21:12:28] <d9867eb> hi
2733[21:13:34] <annadane> d9867eb, just ask your question; it's a help channel
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2736[21:14:56] <d9867eb> I want to firejail my software but I am having problems. I am going to post pastes of config.
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2741[21:16:03] <d9867eb> replaced-url
2742[21:16:17] <d9867eb> firejail config file
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2745[21:17:11] <jhutchins> Is icinga able to poll nagios clients?
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2747[21:17:26] <d9867eb> replaced-url
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2750[21:17:45] <d9867eb> systemd config file
2751[21:17:57] <jhutchins> dondelelcaro: dpkg seems to be AWOL.
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2756[21:18:40] <d9867eb> i want to run deluge in firejail.
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2766[21:21:02] <Wallflour> Hi, can anyone tell me if there are 2 vmlinuz files on a boot partition would that prevent a system from booting>
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2776[21:26:04] <rant> Wallflour: no, it would not.
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2779[21:26:38] <Wallflour> ok, where would the pointer to the active kernel normally be stored?
2780[21:27:51] <rant> Wallflour: typically there are symlinks /vmlinuz /vmlinuz.old /initrd /initrd.old that point to the most recent two kernel/initrd files in /boot but thats not really important.. what matters is that your bootloader is properly configured
2781[21:28:16] <rant> you always want to keep two kernels when you update one, so you can boot the last working one if there is a problem with the newer one
2782[21:28:38] <Wallflour> ok, i have no /vmlinuz or /initrd
2783[21:28:52] <Wallflour> I am using rasbian, not true debian
2784[21:29:02] <rant> it doesn't matter as long as you point the bootloader to the right place
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2786[21:29:22] <rant> Wallflour: also raspbian is not debian, seek help from their support channel
2787[21:29:29] <rant> !raspbian
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2789[21:29:36] <rant> !rasbian
2790[21:29:39] <Wallflour> ok, thanks for your help :)
2791[21:29:42] * rant mehs
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2794[21:30:13] <rant> Wallflour: those things likely use uboot, and thier channel would be more helpful
2795[21:30:55] <rant> oh.. dpkg isn't online.. doh
2796[21:31:04] <rant> ~raspbian
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2800[21:31:41] <Wallflour> i've found the channel, thakns :)
2801[21:31:58] <rant> yeah.. well our bots aren't helping currently, so thats a good thing you found it :P
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2804[21:33:49] <rant> ah.. I see now jhutchins mentioned this to dondelelcaro. heh.
2805[21:33:59] <rant> apt is here but not responding as well
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2809[21:36:50] <rant> correction, apt is online but not responding.. though it probably didnt respond because its not in this channel and I'm not in any channel with it.
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2817[21:40:55] <jhutchins> rant: dpkg and judd are our main bots.
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2823[21:42:28] <SuperTramp83> d9867eb: cut 'whitelist /home/d9867eb/Deluge' out and uncomment '#whitelist ${HOME}/.config/deluge'
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2836[21:49:05] <d9867eb> SuperTramp83, ok thanks
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2854[22:03:27] <jhutchins> does tune2fs write settings to the drive itself?
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2860[22:06:56] <jhutchins> Ach, no, hdparm
2861[22:06:58] <ebrasca> Where I can find some documentation for amavisd-new (debian package) ?
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2865[22:11:17] <ebrasca> I have read replaced-url
2866[22:11:33] <ebrasca> But in debain I don't have /etc/amavisd.conf
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2870[22:14:47] <jhutchins> Must write it to the drive, setting from the old server is still there.
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2875[22:16:57] <ebrasca> Where I can find documentation for amavisd-new from debian?
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2877[22:17:15] <ebrasca> I like to add it to my postfix and dovecot.
2878[22:17:36] <ebrasca> And add anti spam and anti virus to amavis.
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2891[22:21:00] <ebrasca> For now I have working postfix with dovecot.
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2928[22:41:26] <jhutchins> dpkg: spamassassin
2929[22:41:27] <dpkg> SpamAssassin is a <spam> filter utilizing content matching rules. Read /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/README.Debian.gz after package installation. If installed, <razor> will be automatically used. replaced-url
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2931[22:41:57] <jhutchins> ebrasca: Are you using maildir or mbox?
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2936[22:44:51] <ebrasca> jhutchins: .maildir
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2940[22:45:52] <ebrasca> jhutchins: location = maildir:~/.maildir
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2949[22:48:51] <ebrasca> jhutchins: I think my problems is in amavisd-new.
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2963[22:54:24] <ebrasca> jhutchins: I am using maildir.
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2989[23:07:22] <bravvve22> hi,i have tomcat installed under vps,and domaine name pointed to the vps,when callin domaine name url,i get my application,but in the addresse bar it shows the ip address ,i cat figure why
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3005[23:15:00] <RoyK> bravvve22: some issue in the tomcat config, perhaps?
3006[23:15:38] <RoyK> bravvve22: not related to your question, but I'd recommend using https with such things
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3024[23:26:58] <bravvve22> RoyK:so its not system isue
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3049[23:38:27] <m4rtys1> is there
3050[23:38:28] <m4rtys1> someone
3051[23:39:06] <ebrasca> jhutchins: some help?
3052[23:39:36] <m4rtys1> how can i connect to hexchat, without error that connectin as root is stupid?
3053[23:39:44] <m4rtys1> changed user and still this communicate appear
3054[23:40:01] <m4rtys1> i'm totally dumb about this
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3078[23:53:17] <andrestorti> how can I move all directories after the letter m to z to another path? is it possible?
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3085[23:54:48] <somiaj> andrestorti: define your other path, there are lots of ways to do this.
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3087[23:55:31] <andrestorti> somiaj for example all folders with m-z to the path /home
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3089[23:56:47] <somiaj> andrestorti: in a very very simple case, you could do ls [m-z], to see it lists the directories,
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3091[23:57:23] <somiaj> if they are more than just one letter you could do ls [m-z]* (this lists all files that start with m through z), then move them, so 'mv [m-z]* /path/to/new/location'
3092[23:57:39] <somiaj> note it is nice to do an ls or echo first to ensure the shell globbing matches what you want before running the actual command
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