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55[00:20:08] <hxmuller> good news, able to boot into shell with
4.17 on Ryzen 3 2200g
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56[00:20:55] <annadane> \o/
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57[00:21:29] <hxmuller> looks like I have to figure out how to
have make-kpkg create the initrd along with the image.
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60[00:22:04] <hxmuller> because the initrd I manually created
is junk
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61[00:22:50] <hxmuller> no screen corruption, woot!
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65[00:23:54] <dorin_ro> hey
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67[00:24:22] <hxmuller> hay
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68[00:24:27] <annadane> hoy
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69[00:24:29] <dorin_ro> is there an alternative to easystroke ?
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71[00:24:41] <annadane> living a stress free life?
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73[00:25:10] <annadane> not answering questions in #bash?
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74[00:25:14] <annadane> (sorry)
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76[00:25:35] <dorin_ro> I need a gesture-recognition
application. What do you recomand me ?
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77[00:25:39] <hxmuller> lol
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78[00:26:07] <annadane> i think... xdotool can do it?
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79[00:26:11] <annadane> not sure
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83[00:27:20] <hxmuller> linux gesture stuff:
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85[00:27:30] <hxmuller> thanks google
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88[00:29:12] <dorin_ro> ty, but i havent found any of them on
debian repository, the eazystroke gives me a build error
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89[00:29:49] <annadane> ,v xdotool
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90[00:29:50] <judd> Package: xdotool on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:2.20100701.2961-3+deb7u3; jessie: 1:3.20140805.1-2; buster:
1:3.20160805.1-3; sid: 1:3.20160805.1-3; stretch: 1:3.20160805.1-3
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92[00:29:55] <annadane> it's available in stretch
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95[00:31:17] <dorin_ro> ty, i will give xdotool a try
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114[00:38:29] <michael2> does anyone know what the "key
board layout dialogue of the installer is about"? example:
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115[00:38:34] <michael2>
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119[00:39:35] <michael2> I only speak english - so I dont really
understand how other languages work
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121[00:40:18] <annadane> it just means map the keyboard to other
keyboard types, i assume there are different standards for languages
based on the QWERTY keyboard
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122[00:40:23] <annadane> (this is a guess, though)
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126[00:41:17] <annadane> and i think it sets the keyboard layout
in general, not just the installer
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127[00:41:25] <sandungas> yep
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129[00:41:39] <sandungas> is incase you have a special kayboard
layout for a non-englih language
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130[00:41:44] <annadane> i don't actually know how it works
if you have DVORAK or some other really obscure thing
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131[00:41:48] <hxmuller> michael2: what annadane said. the Brits
keyboards are different than the Yanks.
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132[00:42:05] <sandungas> and all other countries XD
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136[00:43:22] <michael2> so you mean like if I choose the
"french" layout and press the "A" key on my
keyboard the "french keyboard layout" will rewrite that
and send a if I download from a different machine and
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137[00:43:23] <michael2> │ | install using dpkg -i console-data
- will that package be properly integrated into apt/dpkg and receive
updates etc?
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139[00:43:36] <sandungas> there are variations of the querty
keyboard btw
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141[00:43:46] <michael2> gah, sorry copy paste mistake
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144[00:44:09] <sandungas> im writing now from a spanish qwerty
keyboard, most keys are located like in english, but i have a couple
weird ones
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146[00:44:14] <sandungas> Ñ and Ç mostly XD
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151[00:46:16] <annadane> and yet i still don't know how to
run i3 because i want to set some other meta key other than the
windows key because it's way on the other side of the arrow
keys so i can't switch programs with one hand
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162[00:49:17] <michael2> sandungas: so by choosing the
"spanish keyboard layout" that means when you press
certain physical keys on your keyboard the "spanish keyboard
layout" remaps those physical keypresses to produces different
logical (binary) character sequences - e.g. say as viewed by hexedit
?
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164[00:50:07] <sandungas> well is not a remap, is loaded like
that
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165[00:50:23] <sandungas> is like the specs of the keyboard
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166[00:50:24] <michael2> so its at a hardware level?
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168[00:50:32] <sandungas> and most keys matches with the
standards
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169[00:50:36] <sandungas> yes
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170[00:50:53] <sandungas> the keys that changes across the
keyboard types are mostly the special ones
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171[00:50:57] <hxmuller> ok, next step in the Ryzen 3 2200g
project is to get Debian installed onto the system. I have currently
created a USB which boots on the system, any pointers to installing
from USB to the system?
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173[00:51:02] <sandungas> for ALT+stuff
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175[00:51:23] <sandungas> also.. the ones ear "return"
key
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176[00:51:45] <annadane> hxmuller, the general way is cp
/path/to/iso /dev/sdX where sdX is your device, and then sync
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177[00:52:00] <annadane> oh, unless you mean debian is already
on the USB
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179[00:52:17] <hxmuller> annadane: cool, Debian is installed on
the USB, but I get your drift
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181[00:52:37] <sandungas> 2400g love :)
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182[00:52:39] <hxmuller> basically an rsync to the system's
harddrive
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183[00:52:41] <annadane>
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184[00:52:44] <michael2> sandungas: so its like say intel make
some USB XYZ123 model keyboard that you "plug and play" -
the available keyboard layouts will be limited to whatever that
XYZ123 model supports?
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185[00:52:45] <sandungas> i liked that toys
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187[00:53:28] <sandungas> is like a requirement for language
support
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188[00:53:47] <sandungas> lets say... at some point there was a
need to invent a standarization for key layouts
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189[00:53:55] <sandungas> and every language needs different
keys
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191[00:54:12] <annadane> if you're chinese, you most
assuredly want a chinese keyboard
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193[00:54:56] <sandungas> yep, even changes the character map
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194[00:54:58] <michael2> you mean there was a "need"
to tap into the profit potential to sell keyboards to the hundreds
of millions of spanish speaking people inthe world?
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195[00:55:04] <sandungas> cirylic for russian
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197[00:55:25] <hxmuller> annadane: I had to create a root
filesystem using cdebootstrap on the USB, the installer doesn't
work (corrupts video), then I compiled the kernel and installed it
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198[00:55:31] <annadane> though now i wonder whether the
installer comes in as many languages as there are keyboard layouts
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199[00:55:35] <hxmuller> I don't see where the install
manual covers that case
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204[00:56:10] <annadane> ah, alrighty. sorry, wasn't clear
from context, or i may be dumb, entirely possible
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206[00:56:40] <michael2> but sometimes chinese people have to
use the same keyboards as the rest of us. so its the keyboards
software/firmware that generate the keys. oh well whatever... Im
going to forget this and continue with my install :)
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207[00:57:17] <sandungas> michael2 without that standards for
keyboards... every keyboard manufacture should publish some kind of
"driver" or profile file for supportuing whatever stuff
they manufacturers
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208[00:57:33] <hxmuller> annadane: no worries, I think the rsync
will work. rebuilding the root filesystem and recompiling the kernel
WITH an initrd this time. will get results tomorrow.
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210[00:57:45] <annadane> rsync probably will work, yeah
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227[01:04:13] <michael2> is there any way for me to list what
keyboard layout I currently have selected?
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232[01:05:29] <sandungas> while installing ?
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233[01:05:35] <sandungas> you can step back iirc
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236[01:06:24] <michael2> Ive had to run "dpkg-reconfigure
keyboard-layout"
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237[01:06:44] <hxmuller> michael2: $ cat /etc/default/keyboard
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238[01:06:44] <michael2> and choose diferent layouts all of
which are not working
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239[01:06:59] <hxmuller> that will tell you what' is
currently in use
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240[01:07:19] <michael2> hxmuller: worked perfectly thanks
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241[01:07:40] <hxmuller> \o/
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243[01:07:57] <michael2> woo :)
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245[01:08:15] <sandungas> best test is to open a text document,
and start typing
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246[01:08:22] <sandungas> verify the special keys :)
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247[01:08:24] <hxmuller> lol
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248[01:08:27] <sandungas> alt+something
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249[01:08:40] <annadane> if "hail satan" comes out,
consider replacing the keyboard
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250[01:08:41] <michael2> then open with hexedit?
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253[01:08:52] <rihan_> Hi debian
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254[01:09:18] <rihan_> I am running debian testing, x64 system,
thinkpad t440
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255[01:09:35] <hxmuller> nice
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256[01:09:40] <rihan_> I am facing unicode support for
google-chrome and firefox
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259[01:10:34] <rihan_> Unicode fonts are rendered as square
blocks in google chrome and firefox. Is it something to do with
/etc/fonts ?
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261[01:10:41] <annadane> the channel for testing/sid is
#debian-next on the oftc network (irc.oftc.net), they might be able
to help you better
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262[01:10:58] <rihan_> ok
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263[01:11:01] <rihan_> thanks
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264[01:11:04] <annadane> though that sounds general enough to
perhaps also be answered here
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265[01:11:04] <michael2> debian testing is the sort of stable
archive right? and "unstable" is the dangerously unstable
- is that right?
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267[01:11:38] <annadane> it's... not really dangerously
unstable, if you know how to use it
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269[01:11:53] <rihan_> michael2: I have installed
google-chrome-stable from google official website on debian testing.
But its not specific to browser
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270[01:12:02] <rihan_> even the same issue is with firefox
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272[01:12:22] <annadane> "unstable" itself refers to
the frequency of package changes, not "likely to break"
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273[01:12:27] <rihan_> Both browsers are unable to render
unicode fonts. Square blocks appear
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275[01:12:49] <michael2> annadane: ok well unstable is _more_
dangerously unstable than testing - shall we say?
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276[01:13:03] <rihan_> where can I get real help folks ?
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277[01:13:08] <hxmuller> is there a difference between testing
and unstable? i thought they were the same
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278[01:13:13] <annadane> in general yes testing can catch some
of the more dramatic explosions
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280[01:13:48] <annadane> hxmuller,
replaced-url
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281[01:13:52] <michael2> rihan_: you need to have the
corresponding fonts which have mappings for the code points the
webpages are trying to show
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283[01:14:11] <hxmuller> 404 not found
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285[01:15:14] <annadane> well, basically, package from unstable
get moved to testing within 2-10 days if there aren't critical
bugs and it builds on all architectures and has satisfiable
dependencies
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286[01:15:16] <sandungas> lol@ dramatic explosions
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288[01:15:31] <annadane> 2 for security, but nominally about 10
days for regular packages, AFAIK
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289[01:15:35] <annadane> i don't really use testing
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290[01:16:06] <rihan_> michael2: Why it doesnt work out of box
in testing ?
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291[01:16:55] <sandungas> rihan_, have you changed the user
fonts, and which language you use ?
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294[01:17:00] <michael2> I dont know - I was just explaining
what you need to have in place for it to work
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298[01:18:30] <sandungas> incase of doubt use the google
"noto" font
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299[01:19:00] <sandungas> the name noto means "no
tofu"... is designed to not display any of that weird missiang
character "squares"
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301[01:19:15] <michael2> sandungas: they will have to run:
fc-cache after they add the "noto" font too right?
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304[01:19:54] <sandungas> not sure, in my actual debian
installation with mate desktop it looks are installed
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307[01:20:38] <michael2> oh, ok so how do you use the
"noto" font do you need to select it from browser
preferences?
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309[01:21:25] <hxmuller> annadane: why does testing have a
cross-dependency problem and unstable not (it wasn't identified
as an issue for unstable)
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310[01:21:51] <annadane> i'm unclear as to what cross
dependency means in this context
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312[01:22:33] <hxmuller> yes, it's unclear to me why that
wouldn't be a problem for unstable too
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314[01:22:50] <annadane> i mean i don't understand what the
term means
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317[01:23:21] <rihan_> sandungas: here is the link when I launch
google-chrome from terminal
replaced-url
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321[01:24:01] <annadane> hxmuller, anyway, the people in
#debian-next on irc.oftc.net may be able to elucidate further
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323[01:24:06] <annadane> it's maybe a bit off topic for
#debian
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324[01:24:19] <rihan_> sandungas: No I havent changed the user
fonts
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326[01:24:21] <hxmuller> indeed, I will be spending time there
for sure
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327[01:26:26] <sandungas> uhhh, lot of warnings and errors
relate with fonts rihan_ sorry but i cant help, im just a rookie
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328[01:26:43] <rihan_> sandungas: the same issue occurs with
firefox. Both major browsers are rendering unicode fonts like
chinese, hindi, marathi
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329[01:27:04] <rihan_> no worries
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346[01:33:37] <annadane> copying the .mozilla folder also copies
the bookmarks, right? i'm 99% sure the answer's yes but
want to be sure
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351[01:35:14] <rihan_> ok guys
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352[01:35:43] <rihan_> I want to know how to reconfigure
fontconfig safely. My system debian-testing x64.
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353[01:36:05] <rihan_> I want to try solving the unicode
rendering with fontconfig
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354[01:36:09] <michael2> annadane: for firefox?
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355[01:36:15] <annadane> yes
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356[01:36:16] <rihan_> Here is the link
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357[01:36:45] <michael2> annadane: I think the folder you want
is the "profiles" it will be a folder that looks something
like:
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361[01:37:41] <michael2>
/home/annadane/.mozilla/firefox/k1kg2grw.default
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362[01:38:18] <annadane> well, i have
.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini
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363[01:38:30] <annadane> oh and the .default
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364[01:38:33] <annadane> yeah so that's in that
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366[01:38:37] <annadane> so i can just copy .mozilla
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368[01:38:55] <michael2> well mozillas the whole enchilada
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369[01:39:03] <annadane> yeah, which is fine
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370[01:39:20] <michael2> but you want to be able to re-use those
bookmarks I take it?
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372[01:39:53] <annadane> er... yes, i suppose so
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373[01:40:09] <michael2> the way I know how to achieve that is
to load the profile back into firefox
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374[01:40:18] <srruby> I'm on buster and gnome-terminal
still doesn't work
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375[01:40:29] <annadane> actually i'm fairly sure i just
copy the .mozilla and all the bookmarks come back
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376[01:40:42] <annadane> srruby, #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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379[01:41:24] <srruby> gnome-terminal didn't work on
stretch either
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380[01:42:18] <michael2> annadane: well if it works then thats
ok, but you are really taking more than is necessary - its like
installing gnome-desktop to get gnome-calculator
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383[01:42:59] <annadane> point taken though, thnaks
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384[01:43:00] <annadane> thanks*
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387[01:43:47] <sandungas> im imagining other way, not sure if it
will work though
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388[01:44:06] <sandungas> you can go to bookmarks in firefox...
then "show all bookmarks"... and "backup" them
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389[01:44:19] <sandungas> ...then uninstall firefox.... and
install it again
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390[01:44:31] <sandungas> ...and load the backuped bookmarks
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398[01:51:42] <michael2> sandungas: would that wipe all the
data? e.g. cache, history, open tabs etc? Im guessing not ?
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399[01:52:04] <michael2> apt likes to leave that stuff on the
system usually
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403[01:52:54] <sandungas> not sure because never tryed it in
debian, but in windows that resets all settings
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404[01:53:10] <sandungas> is like a fresh firefox install
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408[01:55:26] <annadane> "it works in windows"
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429[02:12:40] <hxmuller> annadane: apologies, I just found
section D.3 Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System,
which does cover my case. thanks!
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430[02:13:37] <annadane> oh, neat
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431[02:13:41] <annadane> okeep that in mind for future
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432[02:13:45] <annadane> i'll keep that*
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434[02:15:44] <hxmuller> instead of attaching the hard drive to
this system, i'll just make sure I have all the right tools on
the working USB system.
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445[02:20:20] <rihan_> installing font-config reconfigure google
nato-fonts fixed the unicode support feature
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447[02:21:51] <annadane> !win rihan_
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448[02:21:52] <dpkg> Congratulations, rihan_! You have won the
time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120!
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451[02:23:40] <rihan_> annadane: thank you!
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460[02:32:06] <Abrax> hey jim
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461[02:32:15] <Abrax> the image you gave me wont boot?
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490[02:50:38] <CrowX-> I created a debian lxc container and I
used 'none' as network type. When I get in the container,
ifconfig shows the network interface of the host, but internet
isn't working on it
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491[02:50:47] <CrowX-> what am I missing?
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494[02:52:18] <karlpinc> CrowX-: Is there routing?
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496[02:53:03] <oerheks>
replaced-url
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497[02:53:50] <CrowX-> karlpinc, what do you mean?
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499[02:54:14] <CrowX-> karlpinc, routing where/how?
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500[02:54:46] <oerheks> none: will cause the container to share
the host's network namespace. This means the host network
devices are usable in the container. .. i think you want .empty ?
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501[02:54:54] <oerheks>
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502[02:55:02] <CrowX-> karlpinc, another thing I'd like to
note is that I have another container with exactly the same lxc
configuration, but that one is using debian wheezy and that one has
internet working on it
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503[02:55:24] <CrowX-> oerheks, empty would make the container
not to have any network.
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504[02:55:35] <CrowX-> with none I want to use the host's
network
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521[03:11:16] <hxmuller> CrowX: Unfortunately I can't be of
much help because my lxc experience is dated. But I remember using
veth and bridging to network my lxc containers
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525[03:12:44] <hxmuller> CrowX: also, the link oerheks supplied
(issue 117) has a link to interesting reading:
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529[03:16:14] <oerheks> I have no knowledge of an usercase that
uses none actually
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536[03:20:14] <Abrax> what should i format the usb to for debian
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537[03:20:28] <Abrax> it only formats to ntfs or fat32 for some
odd reason
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538[03:20:29] <somiaj> Abrax: do you mean to install debian?
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539[03:20:34] <Abrax> ya
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540[03:20:37] <Abrax> to boot from usb
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542[03:21:02] <somiaj> Abrax: you shouldn't format it, the
debian .iso already contains a bootloader/partition table. What os
are you making the usb from, and what debian iso are you using?
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543[03:21:23] <Abrax> making the usb from windows
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545[03:21:52] <somiaj> !win32diskimager
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546[03:21:53] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than
<unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can
download it from
replaced-url
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548[03:21:57] <somiaj> Use that
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549[03:22:20] <somiaj> bascailly you just need to do a raw rite
(no formatting, messing iwht) of the .iso to the usb drive.
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550[03:22:20] <Abrax> ok
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551[03:22:37] <Abrax> so ill just make the usb raw again
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552[03:22:56] <Abrax> iso to usb doesnt like to burn to raw
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553[03:23:23] <somiaj> you dn'[t need to do anything to the
usb
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554[03:23:26] <hxmuller> use the program he mentioned
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555[03:23:38] <somiaj> just write the iso to the usb using the
program given. It will destroy all data on the usb and make you a
bootable debian image.
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557[03:23:47] <Abrax> ah nice k
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558[03:23:51] <hxmuller> yup
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559[03:24:00] <hxmuller> it works like a charm
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563[03:24:55] <hxmuller> so many sleepy Macs
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567[03:27:29] <Abrax> what happens if its an ISO
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569[03:27:35] <Abrax> cant find my iso
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571[03:27:49] <Abrax> nm found it
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572[03:27:56] <Abrax> had to switch from .img
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577[03:29:14] <hxmuller> Anyone used the 'file://'
mirror argument in cdebootstrap? I am wondering if I can just dump
all the debs into a directory and run dpkg-scanpackages on it, then
point cdebootstrap to that
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580[03:30:09] <initself> i can't find start-stop-daemon in
aptitude
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582[03:30:20] <initself> is there a reason?
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583[03:30:50] <initself> it's a part of dpkg?
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584[03:31:00] <Abrax> access denied?
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585[03:31:07] <initself> never mind
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586[03:31:10] <initself> i do have it, as root
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588[03:32:31] <hxmuller> Abrax: probably have to run it as
administrator
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591[03:33:26] <hxmuller> I haven't used Windows in a long
time, but I think if you right click, you can select 'run
as'
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596[03:36:41] <somiaj> initself: why not just use a systemd unit
file, it is far necier than start-stop-daemon and a crazy init.d
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598[03:38:07] <Abrax> oh nm
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599[03:38:13] <Abrax> its the new win 10 ransomware protection
thing
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600[03:38:29] <Abrax> you have to allow every exe now to
run......
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602[03:38:48] <Abrax> have to put it in a whitelist
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603[03:39:12] <somiaj> that really isn't that new, any .exe
that requires admin rights (to write to the usb device) has required
some 'click yes to proceeded' for quite a while in
windows.
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606[03:39:41] <somiaj> but yes, if they don't just give you
a pop up and click yes, it may have changed
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609[03:41:51] <Abrax> its something different than what you
think
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610[03:41:55] <Abrax> you have to add to a whitelist now
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611[03:42:22] <Abrax> a whitelist of exes that can run
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612[03:43:15] <Abrax> they wont run without being in the
whitelist
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617[03:47:31] <jim> Abrax, maybe wrong cpu?
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632[03:56:44] <jim> Abrax, did you find out what the problem was
with the image I linked you to?
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645[04:05:44] <Abrax> its fine i got it running
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646[04:06:07] <Abrax> its installing now
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647[04:06:52] <jim> what was the problem?
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648[04:07:58] <sandungas> microsoft
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649[04:08:10] <sandungas> lucky debian is acepting windows
refugees (like me)
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651[04:09:01] <somiaj> jim: I had to point them to
win32diskimager, so probably due to how they made the usb bootable
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652[04:09:06] <guru> Is there a debian repo with modsecurity for
nginx where I don't have to compile manually?
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653[04:09:31] <jim> oh ok
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655[04:09:38] <jim> somiaj, thanks
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657[04:09:52] <somiaj> guru: if it isn't included in
debian, then you may have to search for third party repos. I
don't know of any.
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658[04:10:18] <Abrax> i just had to get imagewriter to put it on
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659[04:10:23] <Abrax> the disk
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663[04:11:26] <sandungas> Abrax, best 2 options are
win32diskimager ...or... unetbooting
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664[04:11:47] <sandungas> the (probably only) advantage of
unetbooting is it allows to create bootable usb sticks with other
distros
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665[04:13:08] <Abrax> oh neat
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666[04:13:19] <Abrax> i will try debian for now on that machine
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667[04:13:33] <Abrax> its a non gaming machine so
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668[04:13:45] <Abrax> i think it will be fine
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670[04:14:07] <jim> sandungas, well that unetbootin thing will
alter the image, and it usually doesn't work right
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671[04:14:33] <sandungas> ok
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672[04:14:42] <sandungas> but it supports debian 9.4
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673[04:14:58] <sandungas> i guess they tryes to keep it updated
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674[04:15:22] <jim> "supports" it? so it's aware
of 9.4 somehow?
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675[04:15:36] <sandungas> yes, it even offers you to download
the iso
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676[04:15:48] <sandungas> is better to provide the iso yourself
though
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677[04:15:57] <sandungas> debian netiso small one
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678[04:16:42] <Abrax> i am just hoping this iso allows me to use
my wireless
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679[04:16:42] <jim> but, the main thing is, the image is already
bootable, and the usual thing to do is find something (like dd or
rufus for win) that just writes the image without changing it in any
way
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681[04:17:31] <Abrax> will see when it finishes
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682[04:17:41] <sandungas> yes, agreed, is better to dont modify
the original files from the iso
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683[04:17:47] <sandungas> just incase
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684[04:17:59] <jim> Abrax, if I recall correctly, that's
the firmware version... it should have connected pretty early
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685[04:18:21] <jim> (as most netinstalls try to do)
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695[04:22:10] <sandungas> btw, debian 9.5 is about to be
released (i guess)
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696[04:22:13] <jim> Abrax, did it already install the base?
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698[04:22:40] <sandungas> the timespan in between previous
"point versions" was 3 months... for 9.5 they are 4 months
right now
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699[04:22:50] <Abrax> ya
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701[04:23:04] <Abrax> and its console apparently
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702[04:23:08] <sandungas> so check at debian page in the next
days if you repeat thwe installation Abrax ;)
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704[04:23:31] <jim> Abrax, did it say anything about the net?
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705[04:24:00] <Abrax> i installed the network mirror
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708[04:24:17] <Abrax> apparently this linux distro does not boot
directly into gnome
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709[04:24:29] <Abrax> it goes straight to console
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710[04:24:45] <somiaj> Abrax: what install image did you use?
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711[04:24:49] <sandungas> did you unckecked all the software
install options ?
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712[04:24:55] <jim> Abrax, the install is finished and you
booted into it?
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713[04:24:58] <sandungas> if you did... the yeah it boots to
console
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714[04:25:09] <sandungas> *then
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715[04:25:37] <somiaj> the netinstall without a network
connection won't give the option to install other software, and
often times non-free firmware is needed.
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716[04:25:38] <Abrax> ya jim
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718[04:25:43] <Abrax> it booted to console
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719[04:25:57] <sandungas> hmm ok
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720[04:26:14] <jim> ok, cool, that's one way... are you
root at the moment?
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721[04:26:25] <Abrax> nah i went in as my username
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722[04:26:29] <Abrax> i can switch to root
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723[04:26:30] <jim> ok
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725[04:27:04] <Abrax> was gnome not installed?
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726[04:27:17] <jim> since you're in, could you run... lspci
-nn | grep -i net | wc -l
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727[04:27:32] <sandungas> it was something you needed to select
in one of the install configurations screen
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728[04:27:36] <somiaj> or start with ip a (see if anything
besides lo is detected)
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729[04:27:43] <sandungas> aftre you are asked to "search
for more discs" ?
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731[04:27:48] <sandungas> *at the time
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732[04:28:01] <somiaj> sandungas: nothing needed to be selected,
desktop is selected by default (unless there was no network
connection using the net installer)
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733[04:28:18] <somiaj> then tasksel is just skipped
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734[04:28:29] <sandungas> i was thinking maybe he unckecked them
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735[04:28:41] <jim> Abrax, probably what you have is a very
minimal debian, with almost nothing except the basic ability to
connect to the net, enough tools to solve core problems, the ability
to boot and the ability to install more packages
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736[04:28:43] <sandungas> but no, it seems it had no network
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737[04:29:42] <jim> sandungas, so we try to solve that now
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738[04:29:42] <Abrax> bash wc-l command not found
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739[04:29:52] <Abrax> that is a lowercase L
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740[04:29:59] <jim> oh, sorry, that's wc -l
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741[04:30:03] <jim> yes
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742[04:30:19] <jim> there's a space after the wc
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743[04:30:37] <Abrax> nothing happened
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745[04:30:47] <jim> you didn't get a number?
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746[04:30:53] <Abrax> ya just a 1
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747[04:31:06] <Abrax> thats all it said
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748[04:31:11] <jim> ok, take off the | wc -l and run it again
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749[04:31:35] <jim> it means you have only one net device
connected by pci
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751[04:32:26] <Abrax> ya looks like only the wired connection is
showing
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752[04:32:35] <Abrax> i know this thing has wireless
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753[04:32:39] <jim> lspci -nn | grep -i net
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755[04:33:03] <Abrax> ya i did that
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756[04:33:09] <Abrax> looks like just the wired card
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757[04:33:15] <jim> try that, there will be a thing that looks
like this: [1234:abcd]
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759[04:33:27] <jim> show that
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760[04:34:05] <Abrax> 10ec:8168
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761[04:34:06] <jim> Abrax, how are you ircing to us right now?
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764[04:34:18] <Abrax> i am using my windows machine
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765[04:34:28] <jim> 10ec, realtek
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766[04:34:39] <Abrax> ya thats right
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767[04:34:56] <Abrax> it should have a wired card and a wireless
but only showing that one
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768[04:34:58] <jim> let's see what it says...
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769[04:35:07] <jim> , pciid 10ec:8168
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770[04:35:08] <judd> [10ec:8168] is 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI
Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller' from 'Realtek
Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169'
in stretch. See also
replaced-url
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771[04:35:26] <jim> got a cable? :)
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774[04:35:38] <somiaj> I almost think that is one of the wired
cards that needs firmawre
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775[04:35:52] <Abrax> i can dl from this machine and transfer
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776[04:36:02] <jim> ok
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777[04:36:05] <Abrax> just seems like it does not notice my
wireless card
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778[04:36:26] <jim> well let's see what interfaces it
found... what's that dir...
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779[04:36:36] <jim> ls /sys/class/net
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780[04:37:04] <somiaj> Abrax: that is different, first 'ip
a' if you only see lo, you'll need firmware. Another
option 'dmesg | grep firmware'
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781[04:37:53] <somiaj> some of the RTL8111's need firmware,
specificlaly the RTL8111D-1 and -2, but not sure about that
paticular one.
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782[04:38:00] <Abrax> enp1s0 lo
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784[04:38:11] <jim> ok, it found your wired
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785[04:38:17] <Abrax> ya
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786[04:38:20] <somiaj> okay, you don't need firmawre, you
might be able to just plug it in and get on the network
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787[04:38:21] <Abrax> only found the wired
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788[04:38:27] <jim> lo is your loopback interface
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789[04:38:43] <jim> the other is your wired interface
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790[04:38:45] <Abrax> having issues linux distros finding the
wireless
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791[04:39:32] <jim> I think we just need that firmware package
for realtek firmware
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792[04:39:39] <Abrax> ya
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793[04:39:46] <Abrax> if we get that it might then detect the
wireless as well
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794[04:39:54] <jim> right
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797[04:40:30] <jim> because it's almost a given that the
wireless is also realtek
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798[04:40:36] <jim> 10ec
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799[04:40:36] <Abrax> ya
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800[04:40:59] <Abrax> does realtek have linux drivers?
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802[04:41:15] <jim> yes, otherwise we'd be sunk :)
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803[04:41:29] <Abrax> 10ec is the one i might need?
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804[04:41:58] <jim> 10ec is the code for the realtek brand
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805[04:42:02] <Abrax> oh
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806[04:42:14] <somiaj> anywas, I would get on the wired network,
get a desktop installed, and then start worring about the wireless.
It didn't show up intially in lspci, and if we can't find
it in lscpi or lsusb, it is invisiable to linux
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807[04:42:26] <Abrax> ya 10ec:8168
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808[04:42:42] <somiaj> that is the wired card, the wireless will
be a seperate entery
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810[04:43:03] <Abrax> its prob realtek as well
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812[04:43:16] <Abrax> just not sure where i can find the linux
drivers
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813[04:43:25] <somiaj> it doesn't matter what it is if it
can't be seen
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815[04:43:49] <somiaj> so lets get you online, and then get the
full output of lspci and lsusb, if there is no wireless card seen in
that output, no driver is going to help
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816[04:44:10] <Abrax> oh that would suck if linux just cant see
it
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817[04:44:14] <jim> Abrax, they're already in your kernel
(most likely) we just need the firmware (not sure why we don't
have it yet)
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818[04:45:09] <somiaj> without any actual output, we can't
do much except guess. So if possible used wired, and we can come
back to the wireless issue
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819[04:45:21] <jim> Abrax, so the easiest way to go right now,
is if you have an extra ethernet cable, and a place on the router to
plug it in
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821[04:46:21] <jim> we'll use the wired temporarily to get
the firmware package, then we can start getting the wireless going
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823[04:46:59] <somiaj> I would get the DE up before dealing with
the wireless
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824[04:47:06] <Abrax> how would we be able to get it without
knowing what it is
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825[04:47:13] <jim> would dmesg | firmware help?
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826[04:47:35] <somiaj> it could, but actual output would be
needed, hence getting the machine online will help a ton
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828[04:47:57] <sandungas> and downloading a more complete iso ?
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829[04:48:01] <sandungas> the dvd image
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830[04:48:04] <jim> well he can transfer stuff, so:
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831[04:48:10] <sandungas> i gues contains base system + gnome
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832[04:48:25] <somiaj> Abrax: do you not have a wired connection
you can use for the time being?
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833[04:48:30] <Abrax> it would be easier for me to transfer
instead of moving it across the house
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835[04:48:50] <somiaj> Abrax: full output of lspci and lsusb and
also demsg | grep -i firmware could help
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836[04:48:54] <jim> Abrax, can you get in as root ( run: su -,
it will ask for root passwd )
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837[04:49:29] <jim> lately dmesg has been protected from plain
users
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838[04:49:59] <zilion> Hi! I have installed iptables and
iptables-persistent but does not have init system for start. Any
solution?
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839[04:50:04] <Abrax> i am in root
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841[04:50:17] <jim> ok
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842[04:50:51] <Abrax> doing: demsg | grep -i
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843[04:51:12] <somiaj> zilion: check this first,
/usr/share/doc/iptables-persistent/README
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844[04:51:57] <somiaj> zilion: seems is uses the
netfilter-persistent.service, check 'systemctl status
netfilter-persistent'
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845[04:51:59] <Abrax> demsg command not found
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846[04:52:05] <somiaj> Abrax: dmesg
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848[04:52:23] <somiaj> Abrax: my bad, misstyped it
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849[04:52:29] <jim> could you run: (lspci ; echo ======== ;
dmesg | grep -i firmware ) > dmesg-out
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850[04:52:50] <zilion> somiaj: thanks
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851[04:53:34] <Abrax> its just telling me how to use grep
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852[04:54:07] <somiaj> Abrax: dmesg | grep -i firmware
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854[04:54:23] <Abrax> oh there we go
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855[04:54:29] <Abrax> it came up with something
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857[04:54:44] <somiaj> Abrax: getting us the actual output could
help
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858[04:54:56] <Abrax> its pretty long
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859[04:54:59] <Abrax> need the entire thing?
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860[04:55:04] <jim> well that's what I'm trying to get
him to do :)
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862[04:55:18] <somiaj> Abrax: run jim's command, put the
output into a text file, copy the text file over, paste it at
paste.debian.net
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863[04:55:58] <jim> Abrax, could you run this: (lspci ; echo
======== ; dmesg | grep -i firmware ) > dmesg-out
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864[04:56:18] <jim> then, the output we want will go into the
file dmesg-out
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865[04:56:42] <TheManWithNoSock>
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866[04:56:52] <jim> transfer that file to the other machine, and
from there pastebin it
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867[04:57:27] <jim> (ya I know, this is a lot of effort, which
will help us to help you
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871[04:58:08] <jim> TheManWithNoSock, hmm?
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873[04:58:42] <TheManWithNoSock> jim, sorry, hit enter on wrong
screen.
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874[04:59:01] <jim> oh ok... no worries :)
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875[04:59:29] <Abrax> [ 0332014] acpi PNP0A08:00: [Firmware
Info]: MMCONFIG for domain 0000 [bus 00-3f]
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879[05:00:39] <jim> Abrax brb... got some irl stuff going
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880[05:00:58] <Abrax> not sure if that makes any sense to you
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881[05:01:14] <somiaj> Abrax: it is just best if you can give us
the full output instead of guess what is important
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882[05:01:29] <somiaj> that firmware info isn't really
important for your wireless issue
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904[05:11:52] <jim> Abrax, would it work better if I put most of
the info I think we need into one file, so you only have to transfer
that one file?
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981[06:20:38] <brutser> i actually want to make some changes,
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982[06:20:47] <brutser> is there any easy way of doing this?
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1072[07:24:14] <ftwhtw> i want to code my own linux but
don't know where to start
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1076[07:25:37] <yort> int main()
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1080[07:28:39] <annadane> ftwhtw, kind of wrong scope for this
channel; try ##linux
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1081[07:29:01] <ftwhtw> annadane: ok
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1082[07:29:15] <Nautilus> also, a bit more work than you might
expect
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1087[07:33:56] <ftwhtw> Nautilus: i am ready for the hardwork
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1089[07:34:19] <ftwhtw> good in assembly and c/c++/java
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1090[07:34:31] <ftwhtw> just need to know write path
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1092[07:34:56] <Nautilus> well asm understanding means you do
have some clue, but yow it's big
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1093[07:35:30] <Nautilus> next Q would be ... why?
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1097[07:37:46] <ftwhtw> Nautilus: I had made a cluster of 20
intel i3 (trying to make a super computer)
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1098[07:38:19] <ftwhtw> so i thought instead of using already
availaible linux why not make own
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1102[07:38:59] <Nautilus> trim down an available linux? Kinda
outta my league on that usage tho
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1103[07:40:21] <Nautilus> if i were to try and make a
super-computer I probably wouldn't start with i3's
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1104[07:40:25] <annadane> once you go arch, you never go back,
btw i use arch linux
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1105[07:40:30] <annadane> (i actually don't)
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1107[07:40:36] <annadane> (soon?)
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1112[07:41:28] <ftwhtw> Nautilus: as i am just experimenting and
write now have only i3
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1115[07:42:12] <ftwhtw> any other good processor
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1116[07:43:04] <Nautilus> I think you need to decide on something
to narrow in on, can't reinvent all in one lifetime
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1134[07:55:30] <jim> ftwhtw, why not look at that first email
Linus sent in 1991, see what he started with
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1137[07:56:03] <jim> also, remember he was in tanenbaum's OS
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1138[07:56:52] <jim> why not get a copy of minix, and compare the
first things linus did to that
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1141[07:57:20] <jim> and get tanenbaum's book on the subject
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1145[07:58:38] <ftwhtw> jim: already finish that book in 6th sem
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1147[07:59:06] <ftwhtw> jim: LFS is what i was looking
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1148[07:59:31] <jim> ftwhtw, oh ok, that's the book that
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1149[07:59:58] <darxmurf> I want to have /opt/ exported for
client1 as read only and /opt/data exported for the same client but
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1152[08:01:06] <darxmurf> using NFS4
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1154[08:01:25] <jim> darxmurf, do you have two lines in
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1155[08:01:30] <darxmurf> yes
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1157[08:02:03] <ftwhtw> jim: yep tanubaum created early minix
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1158[08:02:29] <jim> I got a copy of that long ago for mac
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1159[08:02:47] <darxmurf> jim: I tried to swap the position of
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1228[08:40:40] <a_> hey
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1230[08:41:03] <a_> can you folks help me with the lpi 010-150?
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1233[08:41:44] <addkt> You alive rant?
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1235[08:42:31] <annadane> addkt, i think rant has it set so he
only gets pinged if you start off your message by highlighting him
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1236[08:42:37] <annadane> because "rant" is a common
word
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1237[08:42:44] <annadane> rant, ^
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1251[08:46:40] <addkt> @annadane, I'm slightly new to IRC. I
don't know how to ping him by highlighting his name
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1253[08:46:47] <annadane> addkt, just by saying the name
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1254[08:46:59] <addkt> like.....
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1255[08:47:04] <addkt> @rant, you alive?
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1256[08:47:11] <jim> addkt, this
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1257[08:47:20] <annadane> don't need @ and some irc clients
don't support it
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1258[08:47:21] <jim> yep
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1259[08:47:28] <annadane> i just highlighted him anyway before
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1262[08:47:49] <addkt> well thanks, anyhow... How are you 2?
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1263[08:48:11] <jim> there are a couple non-irc chat things that
do special things with @ and #, but not irc
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1266[08:52:34] <addkt> where can I read about these? You have a
particular link I can read over that I can reference?
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1270[08:54:05] <naxuroqa> Hello! I see that toxync12 has been
banned from this channel. It's a bot acting as a bridge between
irc channels and channels on tox. Is there a way it could be allowed
on this channel again?
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1273[08:54:49] <annadane> not certain what proper protocol is
here, i can ping the ops but don't want to disturb them
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1276[08:56:20] <annadane> well, at the risk of being yelled at...
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1278[08:56:22] <annadane> !ops ^
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1279[08:56:24] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall:
annadane complains about a problem (see above)
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1291[09:00:28] <darxmurf> jim: a way to turn around this NFS
issue is to create a /nfs/ folder, then mount bind all the folders
inside that and declare that in my /etc/export
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1292[09:00:31] <annadane> how many of them are awake, is another
question :P
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1293[09:00:40] <annadane> but just idle for a few hour
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1294[09:00:41] <annadane> s
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have a different scheme than it is replicating from?
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1313[09:09:58] <zerocool> like can it have more attributes than
the source?
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1393[09:57:31] <dosmanak> Hello, could you point me to
documentation for apt repository? Why official repo does not have
InRelase file? I get that InRelase file is Relase file singed using
Release.gpg
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1397[09:58:38] <dosmanak> I worry if InRelease file is missing,
but Release is present, the repo verification is not working.
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1440[10:23:01] <dosmanak> melissa666: what does the link look
like? 'ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-replaced-url
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1442[10:24:19] <melissa666> dosmanak, /etc/alternatives/x-replaced-url
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1447[10:25:18] <melissa666> I also have xdg-settings set to
firefox (but I checked thunderbird config, and it says it's
using x-replaced-url
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1449[10:27:36] <dosmanak> wierd. What about xdg-open 'your
url' from terminal?
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1454[10:29:08] <dosmanak> melissa666: 'xdg-settings get
default-web-browser' returns correct browser?
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1466[10:35:35] <melissa666> dosmanak, actually no - it says
geany.desktop :/ ... sorry, I had assumed it was correct, because I
ran `xdg-settings set default-web-browser firefox.desktop` ... but
it doesn't seem to have taken effect yet. do I need to restart
X / add this to xinitrc or something?
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1467[10:36:38] <dosmanak> Did you run as usr or root?
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1468[10:36:42] <dosmanak> *user
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1469[10:39:52] <dosmanak> melissa666: It is not recommended to
use xdg-settings as root
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1471[10:41:02] <dosmanak> melissa666: You can check the return
code of xdg-settings after setting the browser using 'echo
$?'
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1472[10:42:06] <jelly> dosmanak: if pgp signage was absent apt
would complain loudly, with InRelease or without
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1473[10:42:32] <melissa666> dosmanak, 0
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1476[10:43:16] <melissa666> also, yes, I did run xdg-settings
with sudo after it didn't take effect when running as user
(almost always a bad thing to randomly try running commands as root
when you don't know what they do ... but I did lol)
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1481[10:44:33] <dosmanak> jelly: Thanks for ensuring, but again,
where can I find documentation on Release + InRelease + Release.gpg?
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1490[10:46:58] <dosmanak> melissa666: I am afraid i can't
you help more :-( You can google why 'xdg-settings set' is
ignored.
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1491[10:47:28] <melissa666> dosmanak, yeah, I was trying with no
luck, so I came here ... but thanks for trying to help.
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1505[10:55:36] <dosmanak> melissa666: You can tinker your setting
using graphical interface perhaps Gnome overrides it somehow
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1533[11:06:42] <darxmurf> why "mount" is not displaying
bind mounted folders as "bind" ?
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1547[11:13:17] <jolt> darxmurf: "This is intentional. Both
mount points are fully equal in all ways so
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1548[11:13:17] <jolt> the kernel does not keep any flags to
differentiate them."
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1549[11:14:04] <darxmurf> mount --bind /opt/data/ /srv/nfs/data/
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1550[11:14:09] <darxmurf> not for me
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1551[11:14:38] <jim> I think he's trying to nfs4 export
them, one ro one rw
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1553[11:16:11] <darxmurf> then there is no way to see if a folder
is bind mounted or not
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1554[11:16:14] <jolt> No idea. That text was from someone trying
to report it as a bug. The responder also said to use findmnt
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1556[11:16:28] <darxmurf> yep, I saw that
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1560[11:19:41] <darxmurf> I don't find that clear
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1561[11:19:47] <darxmurf> anyway... no choice
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1563[11:20:34] <darxmurf> but until now I was adding my new
mounted stuff in fstab using tail -1 /etc/mtab >> /etc/fstab
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1566[11:23:15] <AliceKelly> the out out of uname -a is Linux
debian 4.9.0-6-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.88-1+deb9u1 (2018-05-07)
i686 GNU/Linux. is this debian stable jessee ) ?
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1567[11:23:39] <AliceKelly> 9?
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1568[11:23:54] <darxmurf> cat /etc/debian_version
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1569[11:24:02] <AliceKelly> ty
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1570[11:24:15] <darxmurf> or cat /etc/os-release
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1574[11:26:30] <AliceKelly> ok im 9.4 im wanting to install
fgrlx. do i really need to backport wheezy or are the instructions
for debian 8 outdated
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1576[11:27:20] <paininhead> hello, I need to install 8.10 but I
am effected by SUA 133-1. How can I get around this with the iso
install?
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1579[11:28:52] <jolt> paininhead: Doesnt the SUA 133-1
announcment thing work? at the boot menu and add
"numa=off" to the
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1580[11:28:54] <jolt> line that begins with "linux"
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1590[11:31:51] <confuzzled> Hi, I've noticed that for a few
days now, certain packages and directories on the mirrors are
inaccessible. For example, just trying to access this in a browser:
replaced-url
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1596[11:33:49] <paininhead> jolt, I'm trying from a fresh
install. So I need to edit ISO image I guess grub.cfg?
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1599[11:34:29] <jolt> paininhead: You do that when you boot.
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1600[11:35:22] <paininhead> where? When I boot the ISO I get to
the menu of install, graphical install, etc I can not get past this
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1601[11:36:10] <jolt> paininhead: I wonder if you press f1 or
something, and it should tell you about possible boot options
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1609[11:42:12] <paininhead> ok, TAB and then add numa=off at the
end seem to sort it, thanks!
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1617[11:48:23] <TandyUK> morning all, any tips on packaging some
software for use with a debian repo
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1618[11:48:59] <dosmanak> AliceKelly: 9.4 is debian stretch
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1619[11:49:07] <TandyUK> i need multiple versions of the software
to co-exist on a system, so for example i can have 'bob
v1' and 'bob v2' installed at the same time,
preferably under their own paths in /opt/bob/vX
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1620[11:49:55] <TandyUK> but i would also like to maintain a
symlink from (eg) /opt/bob/executable >>
/opt/bob/v<latest>/executable
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1621[11:50:09] <TandyUK> so there is always a fixed path the the
latest 'bob' on your system
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1622[11:50:35] <TandyUK> going purely newer only, i see no
problems here
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1623[11:50:46] <TandyUK> but i dont know how to handle if you
install v2, then v3, then v1 last
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1625[11:51:05] <TandyUK> how would i set it up so that v1 can be
aware of its newer version, and not change the symlink?
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1627[11:51:20] <TandyUK> or if theres a completely different way
to achieve this, please let me know
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1645[11:59:47] <TandyUK> Im also packaging a binary distribution,
so having a hard time following the debian package howto
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1646[11:59:50] <AliceKelly> dosmanak, thank you
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1655[12:05:11] <AliceKelly> pisses me off to no end i cant get
webgl enabled in any browser
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1656[12:06:02] <AliceKelly> i know the vid card supports opengl
and mesa is working fine
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1657[12:07:35] <AliceKelly> ive enabled gl in chromium and
hardware exceleration is enabled
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1668[12:14:45] <earendel> does it crash?
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1671[12:16:29] <AliceKelly> no just wont install web apps made to
use webgl
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1672[12:17:21] <AliceKelly> says yout browser doesnt support
webgl. yet hardware exceleration is enabled and says its working
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1673[12:17:41] <earendel> TandyUK: u can just create your
symlinks manually into a folder you exported in the PATH environment
variable
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1676[12:18:46] <earendel> AliceKelly what graphiccard?
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1678[12:19:22] <AliceKelly> ati radeon 9000. ive tested the mesa
with gears and it works fine
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1682[12:23:05] <earendel> AliceKelly: have you tried starting the
browser in 'safe mode'? apparently some themes or
extensions can cause problems
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1684[12:23:28] <earendel> would be a way to exclude that
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1685[12:23:33] <AliceKelly> interesting. how ?
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1687[12:24:40] <earendel> firefox -safe-mode
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1688[12:26:02] <earendel> chrome -incognito
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1691[12:26:38] <earendel> or chrome --disable-extensions
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1694[12:27:40] <earendel> could be --ingognito .. with double
slash.. --help will eventually ..help
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1698[12:31:40] <earendel> AliceKelly: you have chome? call this
url when you managed to disable extensions: chrome://gpu/ .. what
does it say?
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1699[12:32:01] <hxmuller> I havent
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1702[12:33:00] <hxmuller> ignore that last, If installing UEFI,
is /boot partition required anymore?
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1704[12:33:03] <AliceKelly> earendel, WebGL: Hardware accelerated
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1705[12:33:03] <AliceKelly> WebGL2: Hardware accelerated
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1706[12:33:11] <earendel> sounds good.
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1708[12:33:47] <AliceKelly> i been looking for why it wont run
webgl for a week
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1709[12:33:49] <earendel> AiceKelly ... there's also a large
list of below .. usually give more info on what went wron
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1711[12:34:35] <earendel> it works all fine here, and i have like
dozens of entries there.. its verbose as fuck.
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1712[12:35:06] <earendel> maybe you can even sort out the issue
ther.
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1725[12:43:41] <AliceKelly> earendel,
[22284:22284:0608/043721.617803:ERROR:context_group.cc(275)] :
ContextResult::kFatalFailure: too few texture units supported (0,
should be 8).
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1732[12:46:06] <rr4> Hello
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1733[12:46:49] <earendel> is it the only entry.. or have you
picked it out. im afraid it couldn't make much sense of it tho
at all. you can try to google parts of the error message.
AliceKelly. have you tried some webgl app in clean mode?
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1734[12:47:14] <rr4> są tu jacyś Polacy?
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1738[12:47:29] <AliceKelly> how is safe and clean mode run ?
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1739[12:47:47] <AliceKelly> and no thats the only error 30 times
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1740[12:47:57] <earendel> oh.
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1741[12:48:05] <earendel> well.
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1744[12:48:45] <earendel> then i would definitely at least give
it a try searching for th error message
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1745[12:49:12] <earendel> AliceKelly: chome --disable-extensions
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1747[12:49:39] <earendel> should work. or: chrome --incognito
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1751[12:53:19] <AliceKelly> nice ry
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1752[12:54:11] <AliceKelly> i saw a workaround and read their
jibber jabber. its about ati cards not reporting textures properly
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1754[12:54:30] <AliceKelly> and tha error seems to hint somehing
similar
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1755[12:54:31] <earendel> AliceKelly: check also that url..
chrome://version/gpu ..
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1756[12:54:45] <earendel> ok.
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1896[14:21:35] <NucWin> any guidance / suggestions / examples on
including both systemd and init scripts in packages so that systemd
systems can use native .service files?
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1900[14:22:17] <greycat> Pick almost any Debian stretch package
that has a daemon, as an example to follow.
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1901[14:24:01] <NucWin> do they not just have systemd files
though as its a known factor that stretch has systemd?
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1902[14:24:47] <greycat> Take openssh-server as an example. It
has /etc/init.d/ssh AND /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service (et al.).
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build scripts anywhere online i cant seem to find them on
packages.debian.org
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1913[14:28:48] <greycat> !nmg
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1954[14:53:41] <wuseman> How-to install requiement package in my
control file? Added 'Depends: jq (=1.5+dfsg-1)' is this
not enough? dpkg wont install jq it just notice me that jq is
required but i want it to be installed when i run dpkg -i tool.deb
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1956[14:54:25] <greycat> You need apt for that. dpkg only
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1957[14:54:49] <wuseman> I understand, thank you.
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1964[14:58:17] <kishornawal> In my pc I have Ubuntu v18 sometimes
my wifi is automatically disconnected. Any solutions?
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1965[14:59:10] <Javabean> kishornawal: questions regarding ubuntu
should be asked in #ubuntu not in debian
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1971[15:01:23] <darxmurf> whith tool can I use to create ZIP
archives with multi CPU ?
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1986[15:09:49] <dosmanak> darxmurf: pigz for parallel gzip.
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1989[15:13:39] <darxmurf> I know but I have to create ZIP files
:-/
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1990[15:15:02] <dosmanak> darxmurf: I don't know such tool.
But if it is more zip files, you can call zip in parallel yourself
using e.g. xargs
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1991[15:15:12] <darxmurf> hmm I can use 7z and force BZip2
compression method
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1992[15:15:42] <greycat> so you DON'T actually want .zip
files
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1993[15:16:15] <darxmurf> don't know if windows computers
are able then to open it :D
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1994[15:16:19] <darxmurf> I'll try now
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1998[15:17:04] <darxmurf> looks like yes
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1999[15:17:33] <darxmurf> 7z a -r -mm=BZip2 -mmt=4 -tzip
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2000[15:17:46] <darxmurf> by default the compression method is
"Deflate"
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2001[15:18:03] <darxmurf> you can force BZip2 and it's still
a ZIP container
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2004[15:18:21] <greycat> And PK-ZIP will be able to open it?
Really?
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2005[15:18:37] <jelly> pkzip still exists?
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2006[15:19:12] <greycat> I assumed he wanted a .zip file, not
"a bzip2 compressed data file inside a pseudo-zip container
that only ToolX VersionY can handle"
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2007[15:19:24] <jelly> I thought everyone used Windows Explorer
embedded support
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2008[15:19:31] <greycat> Windows still exists?
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2009[15:19:35] <jelly> yes
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2010[15:19:39] <greycat> damn
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2011[15:19:50] <darxmurf> well, this bzip compression into zip
files is readeable by windows explorer
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2012[15:19:57] <jelly> darxmurf: nice
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2013[15:20:05] <greycat> 4.6: (2001) BZIP2 compression (not
published online until the publication of APPNOTE 5.2)
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2015[15:20:14] <greycat> I guess that's pretty good, then.
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2017[15:20:55] <greycat> So, for your original question, does
that mean you can bzip2 the individual files in parallel, and then
sweep them all up into a .zip container in one pass after that?
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2019[15:22:21] <darxmurf> nop
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2021[15:22:47] <darxmurf> m= ---> Sets a method: Copy,
Deflate, Deflate64, BZip2, LZMA, PPMd.
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2023[15:23:10] <darxmurf> by default 7z is using Deflate but if
you use the Bzip2 algo, it's multithread compatible
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2029[15:26:00] <jelly> so I made an encrypted zip with some ssl
certs with your options, and one with "normal" zip, 7z bz2
one is 33K, zip one is 30K
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2031[15:26:11] <darxmurf> or I can .tar.gz it and fook them with
their ZIP file
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2032[15:27:04] <jelly> 1692 BZip2 1354 20% 2018-06-08 07:14
b731f10c star.croadria.com.2018/CACertificate-INTERMEDIATE-1.cer
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2033[15:27:09] <darxmurf> na but I have around 2Tb of folders to
ZIP one by one... the idea was just to have a SMP tool :D
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2034[15:27:12] <jelly> 1692 Defl:X 1191 30% 2018-06-08 07:14
b731f10c star.croadria.com.2018/CACertificate-INTERMEDIATE-1.cer
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2035[15:27:17] <darxmurf> don't care about the compression
level :)
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2037[15:27:37] <jelly> then don't compress, just use the
store method
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2040[15:28:03] <greycat> and then your concerns about
parallelization also go away
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2041[15:28:10] <darxmurf> I already did a script to do that ->
tar.gz but as the girl already compressed half of the stuff with ZIP
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2042[15:28:19] <jelly> that will be plenty fast with a single
core I bet
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2043[15:28:43] <darxmurf> well, I want a compression, but I will
compare if this algo is 0.1% better than the other
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2054[15:31:47] <jelly> 1692 BZip2 1291 24% 2018-06-08 07:14
b731f10c star.croadria.com.2018/CACertificate-INTERMEDIATE-1.cer
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2057[15:31:58] <jelly> that's with -mx=9 added
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2058[15:32:02] <snooky> hi all
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2059[15:32:06] <snooky> german or english only?
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2060[15:32:11] <jelly> !de
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2061[15:32:11] <dpkg> Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in
#debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) -
German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net,
irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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2063[15:32:44] <snooky> there dont i becam an answer
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2065[15:33:06] <snooky> i test it with google translate, where
that ok?
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2070[15:34:34] <pingfloyd> you became an answer?
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2071[15:34:53] <darxmurf> I should have plug this disk to
compress on a 24core machine just to test :D
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2073[15:35:10] <snooky> i dont really good speak english
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2074[15:35:12] <snooky> Hello. First, I'm looking for a way
to automatically install servers from a host server. with a
previously created image. a rescue system or PxE is not possible.
All the host knows is the IP address and the root password. Is there
a possibility? Is ansible exactly what I'm looking for?
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2076[15:37:05] <bites> you can use ansible if the other servers
already have a system installed and ssh running and you want to
configure them automatically.
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2080[15:38:47] <darxmurf> ha ! on a 24 core machine:
real0m14.373s
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2081[15:38:52] <darxmurf> on my i7: real0m41.952s
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2086[15:40:42] <snooky> bites: that's just it. pretty much
everything can run on the server. all that is available is not ssh
anymore. no further knowledge about the server. this must then be
installed automatically and later report back to the host. with
"I am installed"
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2088[15:40:57] <dosmanak> darxmurf: Is it really compatible with
Windows ZIP?
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2089[15:41:20] <darxmurf> I can open the archive in explorer yes
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2090[15:41:21] <darxmurf> windows 10
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2092[15:41:26] <darxmurf> did not try windows 7
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2093[15:41:41] <greycat> you'll definitely want to test it
on older Windows
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2094[15:42:55] <snooky> bites: So the host gets the root ssh
access data. and at the end the server is installed. Whether
that's an Intel or Amd or hda or sda, it does not have to
matter at all. root access data purely. finished system out
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2099[15:45:25] <bites> snooky: sorry, but it's hard to
understand what you say. do you have ssh access to the servers you
want to configure?
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2100[15:45:57] <snooky> yes
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2101[15:46:00] <snooky> ich have root
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2103[15:46:30] <snooky> but i dont know or the server an intel or
amd. or the server have /dev/hd* or /dev/sd* device
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2104[15:46:42] <snooky> only i have the root access data
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2105[15:46:48] <darxmurf> greycat: works too under windows 7
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2106[15:47:08] <greycat> darxmurf: cool
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2107[15:47:29] <dosmanak> darxmurf: That's cool, thanks for
the new knowledge.
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2108[15:47:32] <darxmurf> they why "Deflate" by default
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2110[15:48:08] <limbo_> compatability, maybe.
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2112[15:48:18] <bites> snooky: that is gut. so what ansible does
is run a list of tasks sequentially on a set of hosts through ssh.
you don't need anything other than ssh access.
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2113[15:48:20] <darxmurf> "for historical reasons..."
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2117[15:49:26] <snooky> So this way: 1. I call the host 500 ip
addresses with passwords. 2. The host server installs these entire
servers with the desired software and configuration 3. 500 servers
are installed accordingly
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2119[15:49:44] <dosmanak> snooky: ansible allows you to install
the system as you tell it to do, but usually the root partition is
already present
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2120[15:49:50] <greycat> Near as I can guess, snooky is saying
"There is a remote machine, I don't know anything about it
except that it's either i386 or amd64, could be Solaris, could
be SCO Unix, could be Slackware. I want to write a program that can
ssh into it and convert it into Debian 9. Magically."
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2121[15:50:30] <snooky> yes
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2122[15:50:31] <dosmanak> snooky: It is up to you how well do you
prepare the ansible playbooks.
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2123[15:50:40] <snooky> so with my configuration
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2124[15:51:17] <snooky> So that installs the and then connect
automatically with my server cloud
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2126[15:51:48] <greycat> This sounds rather malicious.
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2128[15:51:57] <snooky> i dont want to install and configuration
my server manually with debootstrap, cfdisk dm-crypt and other
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2130[15:52:25] <greycat> "I have hacked into 500 computers
around the world, all I have is root ssh access, no details on them
individually, and I want to convert them all into my private
botnet."
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2133[15:52:54] <mutante> debtakeover?
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2135[15:53:00] <snooky> you have unterstand it
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2136[15:53:06] <snooky> but dont botnet
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2139[15:53:17] <mutante> snooky: mining?
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2141[15:53:35] <snooky> by the way
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2142[15:53:43] <snooky> "vpn"net
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2143[15:53:43] <snooky> ;)
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2144[15:54:01] <limbo_> What's the least complicated way to
create a http compatable livestream from files on the hard drive? I
need something for testing.
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2149[15:54:32] <snooky> and the more ips fed the bigger. but so,
if 1 server is taken off the net, then go for 2 online. So I should
also monitor the network
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2151[15:55:13] <snooky> automatically. only i must give the host
the access data
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2152[15:55:18] <greycat> The only reason I haven't /ignored
you yet is the small chance that there is a language understanding
issue, and you didn't really confirm that you have hacked into
500 random computers.
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2162[15:57:59] <yokowka> hello every soul!!!! have alredy install
debian 9.4 - not works wifi, how to make it work? notebook dell 3537
inspiron
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2165[15:58:09] <colo-work> limbo_, I did that years ago using
icecast and ffserver, with vlc-cli connecting to those and
transcoding the on-disk data
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2167[15:58:23] <greycat> yokowka: find the device ID, install
whatever firmware or drivers are required for that device
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2169[15:58:32] <snooky> no no
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2170[15:58:44] <snooky> dont five hundert ;)
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2172[15:59:14] <yokowka> greycat where i can find device id?
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2175[15:59:32] <greycat> yokowka: start with "lspci
-nn" and "lsusb" -- it'll probably show up in
one of those.
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2179[16:00:14] <bites> limbo_: there are hls modules for nginx.
if you want flexibility you can use obs to record and nginx + rtmp
module to translate the rtmp stream to hls.
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2182[16:00:56] <snooky> ok, so puppet, chef salt and ansible my
favorites?
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2186[16:01:39] <yokowka> greycat this is what i need: Qualcomm
Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter
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2187[16:01:40] <limbo_> bites: alright.
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2189[16:01:53] <greycat> !AR9565
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2190[16:01:54] <dpkg> Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 wireless
LAN devices (PCI ID 168c:0036) are supported by the Linux kernel
since Linux 3.7, ask me about <ath9k>. Debian 7
"Wheezy" users, ask me about <bdo kernel> to provide
device support.
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2191[16:02:03] <greycat> !ath9k
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2192[16:02:03] <dpkg> ath9k is a completely free (no proprietary
HAL) Linux kernel driver supporting PCI/PCIe 802.11n wireless LAN
devices with Atheros chips. It does not require firmware from
userspace. See
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2193[16:02:24] <greycat> guess you go to that wiki page and do
whatever it says...
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2194[16:03:16] <yokowka> greycat, dpkg - i'll see next))))
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2195[16:04:32] <colo-work> ath9k should work out of the box,
afaik
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2200[16:06:20] <darxmurf> hmmm there is something wrong with the
ZIP compression and windows Oo I can open files in the root of the
archive but not files in subfolders
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2201[16:06:29] <darxmurf> I can list them but not extract it
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2202[16:06:31] <darxmurf> haha
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2203[16:06:47] <darxmurf> it's fine with 7zip windows but
not the explorer
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2204[16:06:50] <Haohmaru> why did i put these nvidia drivers.. i
honestly don't remember, but when i rotate my screen (with
xrandr, cuz the nvidia settings panel can't) then the
"fps" drops..
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2205[16:07:15] <Haohmaru> now i'm reading that this is
common and suggestions to go back to noveau if i want rotation
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2210[16:09:39] <Haohmaru> interesting fact, when i rotate the
screen, the nvidia settings shows 1920x1920, with a trimmed
1920x1080 portion
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2223[16:18:02] <Haohmaru> if i rotate the screen on this other
debian which has some amd saphire gpu - no choppy mouse redrawing..
that's it.. imma be getting an amd gpu for myself
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2241[16:27:03] <ska> Is snap a good tool to use to install
firefox on Debian 9?
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2243[16:28:01] <somiaj> It isn't a bad tool, though I would
just download firefox from mozzilla myself
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2244[16:28:40] <ska> Ok.. I don't like the idea of snap
doing background checking.
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2249[16:29:19] <greycat> If for some reason you don't want
to use firefox-esr, just download the firefox tarball from
mozilla.com and install in /usr/local or /opt.
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2253[16:30:57] <NicolaiVdS> o/ i have i small problem with my
debian server when i try to ssh into it as root i get following
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2254[16:31:09] <NicolaiVdS> what can be the problem og this ?
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2255[16:31:12] <NicolaiVdS> of*
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2261[16:33:39] <somiaj> NicolaiVdS: how are you trying to ssh, it
seems strange that you are requsing x11 forwading as root.
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2263[16:34:37] <somiaj> NicolaiVdS: It doesn't look like you
are trying to ssh, but trying to run some command over ssh, which
will close when the command terminates.
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2264[16:34:58] <NicolaiVdS> im using mobaxterm
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2265[16:35:26] <somiaj> that might be the problem, mobaxterm
likes to setup x11 forwarding and the likes, and in general it
isn't a good idea to run xorg stuff as root.
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2267[16:36:14] <NicolaiVdS> ok but its not only when im using
mobaxterm also when im using putty,termius,etc
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2271[16:37:07] <somiaj> I would try to ssh from another linux
machine, maybe ssh -vvv root@foo, and see if you can debug why root
is trying to run some scripts when you ssh in. Though me personally,
I would disable root access via ssh anyways, and just use su - to
become root.
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2272[16:37:21] <NicolaiVdS>
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2276[16:40:00] <NicolaiVdS> and in the .bash_profile and .bashrc
there is no r2 command included
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2279[16:41:41] <NicolaiVdS> here are the contents of those 2
files somiaj
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2286[16:44:33] <somiaj> well check roots .profile, .bashrc, and
so on, it appears to be trying to run some command called
'r2' which I don't recongize. It still appears you
are requsing X11 forwarding, but on your ssh -vvv paste, you login
correctly between lines 99 and 107, but then other things are still
running
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2287[16:45:22] <somiaj> you have something setup to keep running
scripts/commands after you run in. I have never used mobaxterm as
root, but to me it is surprising you are trying to use x11
forwarding, and also why is r2 trying to be run (I don't neve
know what that is)
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2288[16:45:38] <somiaj> check the .authorized_keys file for root,
and see if there is anything there forcing a command to be run via
ssh
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2289[16:46:32] <somiaj> but the login is happening, it is some
script/command being sent that is closing the session afterwards
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2290[16:47:20] <NicolaiVdS> strange it is happening on multiple
machines and only on the root account
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2291[16:47:48] <somiaj> ,info radare2
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2292[16:47:49] <judd> Package radare2 (devel, extra) in
stretch/amd64: free and advanced command line hexadecimal editor.
Version: 1.1.0+dfsg-5; Size: 148.1k; Installed: 433k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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2295[16:48:10] <somiaj> that is the package that contains the r2
binary. It is due to some configuration, maybe you copied over
something in /root that is causing this on all the machines
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2296[16:48:28] <somiaj> check roots .ssh/.authorized_keys
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2298[16:49:05] <NicolaiVdS> only contains my key
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2299[16:49:16] <somiaj> you can restrict certain keys to run a
command=, I do this on some of my machines, because I don't
want to have root ssh open, but I need root ssh for rsync, so I use
rrsync wrapper as the only command allowed to run over ssh. If you
try to login other wise you get kicked out
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2300[16:49:20] <somiaj> check sshd_config
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2302[16:49:21] <NicolaiVdS> i can try tro re make it
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2305[16:49:59] <somiaj> but some configuration on your server is
restricting what root can do over ssh it seems, I don't know
enough details to tell you where is best to look
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2312[16:51:53] <greycat> sshd_config(5) => ForceCommand
"Forces the execution of the command specified by ForceCommand,
ignoring any command supplied by the client and ~/.ssh/rc if
present."
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2313[16:52:17] <NicolaiVdS> sshd_config
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2316[16:53:08] <somiaj> does /root/.ssh/rc exist?
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2317[16:53:36] <NicolaiVdS> no
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2320[16:54:22] <greycat> and your /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
begins with 'ssh-rsa' and not
'command="..." ssh-rsa' ?
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2322[16:54:54] <NicolaiVdS> yes and when i do su
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2325[16:55:23] <NicolaiVdS> it asks for pass and the show the r2
thing and reverts back to the user
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2326[16:55:33] <greycat> Is root's SHELL set to r2?
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2327[16:55:45] <greycat> In /etc/passwd or whatever you use?
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2329[16:55:52] <NicolaiVdS> ps r2 = radare2 - Advanced
commandline hexadecimal editor, disassembler and debugger
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2330[16:57:13] <NicolaiVdS>
replaced-url
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2331[16:57:17] <NicolaiVdS> found it :o
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2334[16:57:38] <somiaj> nice call greycat, as to why r2 is set as
the shell, who knows.
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2335[16:57:39] <greycat> 1. root:x:0:0:root:/root:/usr/bin/r2
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2336[16:58:03] <jelly> lol
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2338[16:58:30] <NicolaiVdS> strange
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2339[16:58:40] <somiaj> also why this is true on multiple
machines, must be some sort of system sharing configuration files?
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2340[16:59:29] <NicolaiVdS> i change 1.
root:x:0:0:root:/root:/usr/bin/r2 to 1.
root:x:0:0:root:/root:/usr/bin right ?
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2341[16:59:37] <jelly> NicolaiVdS: no
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2342[16:59:43] <somiaj> NicolaiVdS: /usr/bin is a directory, not
a shell
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2343[16:59:45] <greycat> change /usr/bin/r2 to /bin/bash or
/bin/sh
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2345[17:00:10] <greycat> and use the "vipw" command for
this
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2346[17:00:43] <NicolaiVdS> Fixed thanks guys :D
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2347[17:00:46] <jelly> or, if inside chroot, just "chsh
root"
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2359[17:06:25] <NicolaiVdS> thanks again
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2429[17:37:38] <addkt> Hello all
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2431[17:37:48] <padomay> hi addkt
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2460[17:47:24] <yokowka> hello every soul!!!! when debian is
booting there is grub on the screen, with selecting os, system
setup.... how to make that debian boot's without grub screen?
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2467[17:49:10] <babilen> yokowka: You could adjust the wait time
to 0 before an entry is booted. Look into /etc/default/grub and the
documentation linked therein
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2470[17:49:45] <greycat> I got as far as /etc/default/grub and
then I found the corresponding lines in /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then
I tried "man grub" and there is no man page, and then I
started googling...
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2472[17:50:31] <yokowka> babilen - i'll make it))))
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2473[17:50:42] <greycat> So yeah, my initial thought is to change
the timeout to 0 but I have no idea how to find the documentation
that will say what that actually does.
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2474[17:51:18] <greycat> Ah, an info page.
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2476[17:51:20] <greycat> How very GNU.
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2478[17:51:29] <yokowka> so greycat it is not help's me??
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2479[17:51:53] <babilen> greycat: The documentation is in
"info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'"
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2480[17:52:05] <babilen> (as referenced in /etc/default/grub)
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2481[17:52:37] <babilen> yokowka: GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 is what
you're looking for
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2482[17:52:39] <greycat> OK, there, in the *sigh* info page:
"Set to '0' to boot immediately without displaying
the menu"
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2484[17:53:07] <babilen> Figured it makes sense to give the
actual way to solve this, rather than just spoon feeding
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2485[17:53:14] <yokowka> type info -f grub -n 'Simple
configuration' in console??
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2486[17:53:18] <babilen> aye
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2488[17:53:24] <greycat> I typed "info grub | less"
instead.
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2489[17:53:51] <babilen> Little anarchist
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2490[17:54:06] <greycat> Most human beings would be well advised
to seek ANY alternative to the default info command. pinfo is a
common choice. "info foo | less" is also good.
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2493[17:57:13] <babilen> yokowka: Did that work?
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2495[17:57:25] <yokowka> babilen there is no way to save
rewrighting grub config, system right's can't save
rewrighting file becouse you have no such permition....!!
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2496[17:57:40] <yokowka> *because
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2498[17:58:05] <babilen> You have to edit that file as root / or
obtain suitable capabilities with sudo
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2500[17:58:38] <greycat> If you don't have root privs then
how on earth did you expect to be able to modify the boot loader?
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2502[17:58:58] <greycat> Why would you imagine that an ordinary
unprivileged user could do such a thing?
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2503[17:59:02] <yokowka> so how to modify it with root?
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2504[17:59:19] <greycat> edit /etc/default/grub, change the
GRUB_TIMEOUT to 0, and run update-grub
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2505[17:59:21] <yokowka> greycat i'm newer in debian
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2506[17:59:26] <greycat> Like we told you.
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2511[18:01:50] <yokowka> i've chenge grub_timeout=0 and
can't run update grub, while i'm not save
/etc/default/grub and even do not know how to run update grub....
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2513[18:02:20] <yokowka> *change
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2517[18:02:46] <greycat> The command is update-grub, not update
grub
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2521[18:04:07] <yokowka> when i'm select time out = 0 just
in console right's update-grub?
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2522[18:04:15] <greycat> What the FUCK.
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2523[18:04:19] <greycat> 1) EDIT THE FILE.
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2524[18:04:24] <greycat> 2) RUN THIS COMMAND: update-grub
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2527[18:05:15] <yokowka> greycat easy please no needn't by
angry with those who don't knows))))
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2529[18:05:25] <greycat> But you DO know, because I TOLD you.
Repeatedly.
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2533[18:06:19] <yokowka> Question is in editing file. 1) .
i've change time out to 0 , what next?
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2534[18:06:29] <greycat> Save the file. Exit the editor.
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2536[18:06:51] <yokowka> i can't save it. help....
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2540[18:07:09] <babilen> yokowka: Are you root?
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2541[18:07:20] <yokowka> yes
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2542[18:07:31] <babilen> How are you editing the file?
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2543[18:07:34] <yokowka> i'm the only user
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2546[18:07:58] <babilen> When you run "id" in the
command line, what is the output?
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2547[18:08:03] <AliceKelly> can anyone tell me what this is ?
replaced-url
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2548[18:08:15] <greycat> It's a URL.
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2550[18:08:33] <AliceKelly> thanks oh master my master
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2551[18:08:51] <babilen> yokowka: You can become root by running
"su" and entering the root password. You wouldn't
normally "be" root, but work as the user you created
during the installation
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2552[18:08:54] <yokowka> babilen that is: uid=1000(yokowka)
gid=1000(yokowka)
группы=1000(yokowka),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),108(netdev),114(bluetooth),118(scanner)
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2553[18:09:00] <AliceKelly> now tell me if its a fix for a
problem my browser has
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2554[18:09:14] <babilen> AliceKelly: You haven't mentioned a
problem
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2556[18:09:16] <greycat> yokowka: then you are not currently root
in that terminal.
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2557[18:09:28] <yokowka> now i'm root
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2558[18:09:36] <babilen> Good, try again
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2562[18:11:58] <AliceKelly> my problem is i cant get webgl to
run. webgl is enabled. and opengl works fine. he browser sends this
error message
26824:26824:0608/094642.511867:ERROR:context_group.cc(275)] :
ContextResult::kFatalFailure: too few texture units supported (0,
should be 8).
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2563[18:12:12] <yokowka> i'd modify time out , then for the
closing editor there is warning that i can't save it.... same
as previous.... maybe type /etc/default/grub in console? not from
nautilus open it?
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2565[18:12:35] <greycat> yokowka: because you are still not root.
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2567[18:12:50] <greycat> yokowka: use the 'su' command
to become root in one specific terminal.
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2569[18:13:09] <AliceKelly> after googling that error message i
found this sitereplaced-url
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2570[18:13:21] <yokowka> greycat in console
root@yokowka:/home/yokowka#
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2572[18:13:37] <egonsen> i read that packages in the debian
repositories are patched and not released "vanilla". what
kind of patches are applied?
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2573[18:13:37] <greycat> Logging in on a Linux virtual console
would also work.
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2574[18:14:05] <greycat> Although that looks more like the end
result of an su, than a console login.
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2575[18:14:20] <greycat> Anyway, the "root@" and the
trailing "#" are both good signs.
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2577[18:14:37] <somiaj> egonsen: depends on the package, you can
look at the source and patches. Sometimes it is small things to
integrate better with debian, or maybe bug/security fixes,
backported to the version in debian (and not using the current
upstream or master repo)
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2578[18:14:54] <babilen> egonsen: All sort of patches. Some fix
security bugs, other change behaviour to be more in line with the
platform other might allow for the software to be built without
accessing the internet. It's really impossible to enumerate all
of these
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2580[18:15:05] <greycat> yokowka: now, IN THAT TERMINAL WHERE YOU
ARE ROOT, edit the file. With a text editor. Which runs in a
terminal. NOT a gui editor.
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2581[18:15:15] <somiaj> egonsen: some are feature requests, or
changes the debian community wants (Via bug reports) but are
rejected upstream.
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2582[18:15:28] <babilen> greycat: My guess is that yokowka has
never used a terminal text editor before
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2583[18:15:47] <yokowka> babylen that's true
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2584[18:15:54] <greycat> I'm guessing that too. He probably
thought he could run su in a terminal and then launch an editor
through his DE....
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2585[18:16:04] <babilen> indeed
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2586[18:16:58] <babilen> yokowka: There are a huge number of
editors that are tricky to use. We will use "nano" for now
as it comes pre-installed on your box. Run "nano
/etc/default/grub" in the terminal as root.
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2592[18:17:44] <babilen> yokowka: Make your change, then hit
"CTRL-O" (^O) at the same time to write it and then exit
the editor with "CTRL-X" (^X)
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2593[18:17:54] <babilen> Once you've done that, run
"update-grub"
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2599[18:20:20] <yokowka> babilen, greycat one more question - how
to make percent of batery in upper line right side to see for
example when it's meaning less the 15%? previous dilemma is
desided))))
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2600[18:21:35] <limbo_> Can whoever told my how to ignore my
broken ; key remind me what I did again? The fix got unfixed.
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2601[18:21:43] <babilen> yokowka: If you like to learn a more
powerful editor, you could install emacs with "apt install
emacs25". You can start it and run "C-h t" to access
the built-in tutorial. (that's "hold CTRL-h" and then
"hit t")
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2602[18:22:11] <greycat> I doubt he's ready to move past
nano yet.
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2603[18:22:42] <babilen> ;)
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2604[18:22:50] <yokowka> fun graycat past nano yet))))
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2605[18:23:11] <somiaj> but emacs?? *hides*
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2610[18:25:41] <yokowka> babilen that tutorial has answer on my
last question?
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2612[18:25:51] <greycat> No.
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2613[18:26:42] <yokowka> greycat then how to make percent of
battery in tray?
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2614[18:29:02] <babilen> I have no idea
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2615[18:29:12] <babilen> I haven't touched Gnome in years
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2616[18:29:54] <yokowka> maybe in debian there is no such thing,
i was migrated from ubuntu
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2618[18:30:26] <greycat> This is the great divide that I've
mentioned a few times. The veterans don't use Desktop
Environments and don't know how to answer these questions. The
beginners don't even know what a DE *is* or that there's
more than one or how to identify which one they're using, let
alone how to state a question clearly.
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2620[18:31:04] <yokowka> my de is gnome
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2622[18:31:28] <greycat> OK, now you just have to wait for
someone who knows GNOME to answer.
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2625[18:32:56] <mtn> yokowka: perhaps there is a gnome extenstion
to do what you want?
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2628[18:34:45] <yokowka> mtn now i'll look
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2630[18:35:31] <yokowka> bless you havens guys!!!!
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2634[18:35:49] <yokowka> *heavens
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2645[18:37:57] <mnuhmnuh> greycat: the modern (fat) ones come
with gui config tools. fluxbox and fvwm & etc., you learn to
bend manually.
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2646[18:37:57] <AliceKelly> greycat, i would love to ask a
question but ive been working on getting webgl to work for 5 days.
not even sure how to fix it
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2648[18:38:13] <yokowka> one last question: when debian is
booting, i've see such thing: /sdA .... failed....., Radeon....
what's can be desigion of this ?
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2657[18:40:10] <mnuhmnuh> yokowka: journalctl -b 0
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2658[18:40:38] <mnuhmnuh> yokowka: dmesg
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2661[18:41:03] <AliceKelly> yokowka, you have to insall the
radeon non free firmware.
replaced-url
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2663[18:41:46] <yokowka> mnuhmnuh type one by one journalctl -b 0
dmesg?
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2665[18:41:59] <yokowka> in cosole?
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2666[18:42:04] <JoeD> Ubuntu user here. I'm planning to move
to Debian and noticed that Debian does not include serurity updates
in the repository. Why is that?
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2668[18:43:08] <john1008> yokowka, type dmesg
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2669[18:43:23] <AliceKelly> JoeD, isnt that mentioned in the
"new features" in 9.4 ?
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2670[18:43:37] <mnuhmnuh> yokowka: journalctl will open it up in
a pager. "dmesg | less" as root will do same sort of
thing.
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2673[18:44:41] <babilen> JoeD: Which repository is that?
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2674[18:44:58] <JoeD> AliceKelly: Hmm, no. At least I didn't
see anything.
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2677[18:45:44] <JoeD> babilen:
replaced-url
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2678[18:45:50] <AliceKelly> JoeD, i could swear i read something
last night about them merging security and the repository
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2680[18:46:03] <JoeD> AliceKelly: Let me double check
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2682[18:46:15] <AliceKelly> i could easily be wrong
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2689[18:49:03] <JoeD> AliceKelly: I mean, when you install
Debian, is "replaced-url
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2690[18:49:26] <AliceKelly> yes
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2692[18:49:34] <JoeD> Oh
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2695[18:50:04] <JoeD> Ok then. Maybe it was an exception to the
video I was watching
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2696[18:50:13] <JoeD> Thank you, Alice
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2698[18:50:49] <yokowka> mnuhmnuh , maybe beter shooting
notebok)))) look at this....^ [ 1.870447] r8169 0000:01:00.0:
can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control [
3.806761] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
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2699[18:50:49] <yokowka> [ 3.806826] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming
drive cache: write through [ 7.236592] systemd[1]:
live-tools.service: Cannot add dependency job, ignoring: Unit
live-tools.service is masked.
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2700[18:50:49] <yokowka> [ 7.236654] systemd[1]: rsync.service:
Cannot add dependency job, ignoring: Unit rsync.service is masked. [
9.669647] [Firmware Bug]: battery: (dis)charge rate invalid. [
11.435400] ATPX version 1, functions 0x00000033
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2701[18:50:50] <yokowka> [ 11.769203] ieee80211 phy0: Selected
rate control algorithm 'minstrel_ht'
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2702[18:50:52] <yokowka> [ 11.769423] ieee80211 phy0: Atheros
AR9565 Rev:1 mem=0xffffb44b81b80000, irq=19
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2704[18:51:04] <AliceKelly> JoeD, no problem
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2705[18:52:51] <mnuhmnuh> yokowka needs to learn about
pastebinit.
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2707[18:53:14] <pushad> someone tried the witcher 2 on debian?
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2711[18:54:21] <yokowka> mnuhmnuh failed to star Rise network
intert....something when debian boots
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2713[18:54:32] <yokowka> *start
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2717[18:55:32] <mnuhmnuh> yokowka: as root, dmesg | grep
"failed to start"
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2718[18:55:35] <yokowka> [ 12.459348] [drm:radeon_pci_probe
[radeon]] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later
requires firmware-amd-graphics.
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2719[18:56:05] <mnuhmnuh> aptitude search firmware-amd-graphics
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2720[18:56:09] <yokowka> mnuhmhuh type as root in console
dmesg....?
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2722[18:56:17] <mnuhmnuh> yup.
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2724[18:57:21] <yokowka> mnuhmnuh already types))))
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2730[18:58:39] <mnuhmnuh> yokowka: do you have functional x
window gui now?
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2737[18:59:23] <mnuhmnuh> if so, you don't _need_
firmware-amd-graphics.
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2739[18:59:40] <yokowka> mnihmnuh what is functional x window
gui? i do not know....
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2741[18:59:59] <mnuhmnuh> gnome, kde, mate, fluxbox, ...
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2742[19:00:10] <yokowka> DE?
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2744[19:00:18] <yokowka> gnome perhaps
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2745[19:00:23] <mnuhmnuh> yes, desktop.
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2746[19:00:37] <yokowka> where i can see it?
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2747[19:00:43] <mnuhmnuh> you don't _need_
firmware-amd-graphics.
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2748[19:01:09] <yokowka> mnuhmnuh how to fix radeon error?
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2749[19:01:58] <mnuhmnuh> not an error. need firmware if free
doesn't work well enough.
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2750[19:02:18] <yokowka> undersrand
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2751[19:02:28] <yokowka> *understand
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2754[19:03:30] <yokowka> how take firmware? mnuhmnuh
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2755[19:04:04] <mnuhmnuh> yokowka: your "[sdb] Assuming
drive cache: write through ..." yada yada; i see that here on a
pluggable ssd i don't need or use. i leave it unmounted and
ignore.
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2756[19:04:17] <AliceKelly> if he has a radeon and he has a gui
it means it defaulted to vesa not ati
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2761[19:07:11] <mnuhmnuh> didn't ati abandon linux or
something? fglrx no longer anything?
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2767[19:10:43] <jhutchins_wk> !radeon
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2768[19:10:43] <dpkg> Radeon is a brand of graphic processing
units by AMD/ATI (replaced-url
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2771[19:12:08] <mnuhmnuh> !fglrx
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2772[19:12:08] <dpkg> fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary
display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series,
Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units.
To install fglrx, see
replaced-url
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2774[19:12:55] <yokowka> thank You
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2783[19:18:49] <babilen> dpkg: fglrx dkms
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2784[19:18:49] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later
systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>.
«aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed
's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` fglrx-driver && mkdir
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section
"Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver
"fglrx"\nEndSection' >
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf». Restart your system to
enable the <radeon> blacklist.
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2791[19:20:54] <greycat> dpkg, fglrx dkms =~ s/mkdir/mkdir -p/
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2792[19:20:54] <dpkg> greycat: OK
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2815[19:32:24] <yokowka> greycat what to do if debian earlear
version then 8, my for example 9.4?
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2817[19:32:44] <greycat> 9.4 is later than 8, not earlier.
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2820[19:33:26] <yokowka> oh i see now
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2821[19:34:15] <yokowka> greycat i must type in console aptitude
-r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,, ....??
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2822[19:34:35] <greycat> If you want to follow the bot's
advice.
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2824[19:34:48] <greycat> Usually one PASTES these things, not
types them.
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2830[19:35:30] <yokowka> so paste it?
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2831[19:35:44] <jhutchins_wk> yokowka: Make sure you get the
closing `
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2833[19:36:00] <greycat> there's more to the command after
the second ` also
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2834[19:36:30] <yokowka> jhutchins_wk how to make sure?
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2835[19:36:34] <jhutchins_wk> Yes'`
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2836[19:36:46] <jhutchins_wk> yokowka: Be observant.
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2837[19:37:16] <jim> yokowka, generally, if (say) you're
going to upgrade to 9 and you're at 7, you have to bring 7 to
uptodate 7 first, then you can upgrade to 8, and that should get you
uptodate 8, then you can go to 9
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2838[19:38:39] <yokowka> oh, jim i'm now on 9
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2839[19:39:04] <jim> which is latest stable
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2844[19:40:22] <jim> so about all you could do now, is go from
the 9 you have to fully uptodate 9, by doing apt dist-upgrade,
without changing sources.list
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2848[19:41:07] <jim> you might already be there too
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2849[19:41:46] <greycat> yokowka said he is on Debian 9.4
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2850[19:42:44] <yokowka> yes i'm
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2857[19:44:42] <yokowka> jim if i already change the source.list
with ati driver, i must backup?
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2863[19:47:02] <yokowka> ati driver ftp.debian
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2867[19:48:35] <jim> yokowka, well backing up is good in
general... think of it like you're playing a complicated video
game and you spend 20 hours getting to the princess' castle...
you're not going to save the game? :)
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2870[19:49:36] <yokowka> no jim i prefer chess an duke nukem
3d))))
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2871[19:50:04] <jim> ok :)
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2878[19:53:40] <greycat> 13:53 Ignoring MSGS from yokowka
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2879[19:53:49] <greycat> Don't flood your entire dmesg at
me.
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2881[19:54:06] <jelly> !paste
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2882[19:54:07] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
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2884[19:54:12] <mnuhmnuh> !pastebinit
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2885[19:54:12] <dpkg> A command-line tool to send data to a
<pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude
install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste
the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See
also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
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2890[19:55:58] <yellowman> I'm trying to run an ancient
program on Debian 9 that was compiled with GHC 6.2, but it's
missing libgmp.so.3. I've installed every GMP devel package I
see and it's still not finding it.
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2891[19:56:00] <jim> this one is another alternative pastebin, it
needs nc installed (netcat): you can pastebin the output of an
arbitrary command by running "anArbitraryCommand | nc
termbin.com 9999", and to include error messages,
"anArbitraryCommand 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
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2893[19:56:37] <jelly> ,file libgmp.so.3.* --release stretch
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2894[19:56:41] <judd> No packages in stretch/amd64 were found
with that file.
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2895[19:56:45] <jelly> ,file libgmp.so.3.* --release jessie
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2896[19:56:48] <judd> No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with
that file.
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2897[19:56:52] <jelly> ,file libgmp.so.3.* --release wheezy
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2898[19:56:55] <judd> No packages in wheezy/amd64 were found with
that file.
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2899[19:57:32] <jelly> yellowman, so it's older than debian
7, you'll have to dig for the right binary package in debian 6
or earlier
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2900[19:57:34] <yellowman> I'm assuming libgmp.so.3 means it
wants GMP 3, but the source for that isn't even on the main
website anymore!
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2901[19:57:36] <yokowka> my mind is broken. too difficult for the
first time....(
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2902[19:58:00] <jelly> that assumption might or might not be
right yellowman
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2903[19:58:53] <greycat> yellowman: if this is a 3rd party binary
that is known to run on such-and-such release of CentOS or
something, just copy the libraries from an appropriately aged CentOS
box
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2908[19:59:23] <yellowman> jelly: OK? Also, by
"search", do you mean manually download a binary package
from Debian's site, or put something in APT source files?
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2912[20:00:01] <jelly> both options might work, and you're
going to have to dig into archive.debian.org
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2913[20:00:01] <yellowman> greycat: I think I saw somewhere
libgmp.so.3 from a site for CentOS 4 or something, but I thought
that wouldn't be compatible?
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2914[20:00:03] <greycat> !snapshot
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2915[20:00:04] <dpkg>
replaced-url
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2919[20:00:22] <greycat> yellowman: you can try ^^ but if
it's really designed for a non-Debian box, you may need
non-Debian libs. Depends. YMMV.
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2920[20:01:04] <yokowka> so wide
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2922[20:01:27] <yellowman> greycat:
replaced-url
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2923[20:01:44] <greycat> yellowman: it might. You can try.
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2924[20:02:06] <greycat> With libraries, usually adding one to
your system won't hurt anything even if it doesn't solve
the problem, and then you can just remove it later.
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2925[20:02:06] <yellowman> greycay: But how would I install RPMs
in Debian? I think there was a tool used years ago but I can't
recall now.
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2926[20:02:21] <greycat> I didn't say install the RPM. I
said copy the library.
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2928[20:03:01] <greycat> Installing foreign packages CAN hurt.
Just copy the libgmp*.so.* file into /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ (or
whatever is appropriate for your arch) and run ldconfig.
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2929[20:03:24] <yellowman> greycat: So wait, this .rpm would
contain the library file?
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2930[20:03:41] <OtakuSen1ai> ping
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2931[20:03:48] <greycat> If you don't have a red hat box to
copy from, you might need to EXTRACT the files from the rpm. One way
to do that is with rpm2cpio.
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2932[20:03:53] <OtakuSen1ai> ping
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2933[20:03:59] <OtakuSen1ai> ping
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2934[20:04:32] <greycat> There may be other ways.
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2937[20:07:00] <yellowman> greycat: No longer complaining.
Let's see if the program actually works...
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2945[20:08:39] <yellowman> greycat: Works! Thanks, rpm2cpio was
that tool I forgot about..
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3018[20:43:23] <BouleDeGomme> Hello
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3019[20:43:39] <jim> hi
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3026[20:49:53] <BouleDeGomme> I Have a noob question, sorry about
that. But, is it possible to make a RAID 1 with one logical volum
and one physical volume ?
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3028[20:50:41] <rounnus__> Hello. i have a problem with
gnome-root terminal, i can open only once and if i try to open again
after i close show me the loading and then nothing
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3036[20:55:02] <greycat> BouleDeGomme: my understanding is that
md can make a RAID out of any two block devices, including LVM
logical volumes and regular disk partitions.
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3043[20:59:41] <BouleDeGomme> greycat : thank you i will try then
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3067[21:11:51] <hyperlumic> BouleDeGomme: Might I ask why you
would use an LVM logical volume as a RAID member?
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3076[21:16:56] <BouleDeGomme> hyperlumic : ofc, because i got one
physical disk of 2 To, and a lot of other disk of 350Go, 250, etc...
My goal is to create LV with all my "little" disks to have
2 To. And after that make a Raid
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3079[21:17:23] <greycat> This sounds like an extremely poor idea.
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3080[21:17:30] <hyperlumic> ^
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3081[21:17:38] <BouleDeGomme> humm
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3082[21:18:10] <BouleDeGomme> What should i do ? buy on other 2
to disk ?
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3083[21:18:12] <hyperlumic> I believe a better option would be to
tell LVM how many physical copies of your data you want, and not use
RAID for this.
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3084[21:18:14] <BouleDeGomme> What should i do ? buy an other 2
to disk ?
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3085[21:18:28] <greycat> That would be the best choice, if you
have the budget.
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3087[21:18:34] <hyperlumic> Indeed.
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3088[21:18:56] <BouleDeGomme> Ok
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3097[21:21:09] <BouleDeGomme> I think that i will do this then,
thanks for you help guys.
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3145[21:54:15] <TandyUK> anyone know if its possible to symlink
to "~/config.js" without it expanding, ie so then when joe
tries to access it, he gets /home/joe/config.js, and bob gets
/home/bob/config.js
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3146[21:54:31] <greycat> It's not.
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3149[21:55:35] <somiaj> TandyUK: /etc is the standard location
for configis you want system wide.
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3151[21:55:54] <greycat> He wants a "file" to appear
different for each person, which is just not possible.
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3155[21:56:14] <greycat> You'll need to change the app to
open a different file for each person, instead of the same file.
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3156[21:56:31] <somiaj> here I was assuming some XY problem where
the actual problem is having a single config for all users
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3157[21:56:34] <greycat> (or she)
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3160[21:56:46] <greycat> It could be an X-Y, of couse.
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3164[21:57:05] <TandyUK> each user needs a specific config file,
but $app they are using inisists on it being ./config.js relative to
where they execute it
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3165[21:57:17] <greycat> Write a wrapper that cd's to the
user's $HOME.
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3166[21:57:21] <TandyUK> i was hoping to symlink ./config.js to
~/config.js to alleviate this
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3167[21:57:46] <greycat> Or just fix the program.
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3168[21:57:51] <somiaj> yea, sounds like you should write some
wrapper, or if possible fix the badly designed app
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3170[21:58:00] <TandyUK> doesnt help, the app still looks in ./
relative to where it is installed
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3172[21:58:11] <TandyUK> it sucks lol
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3174[21:58:32] <TandyUK> ive requested such from $dev, but hes
unlikely to backport the fix to the old versions we still use
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3175[21:58:41] <TandyUK> future ones, its having a complete
overhaul
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3176[21:58:41] <greycat> Do it yourself.
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3177[21:58:57] <TandyUK> closed source too, or i would
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3178[21:59:00] <TandyUK> wrapper is the only way
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3179[21:59:07] <TandyUK> ty :)
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3180[21:59:36] <somiaj> I don't think a patch to just change
where the app looks for its config file is going to be that major
and you might be able to quickly backport it, or write one for the
version you are using
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3183[21:59:58] <TandyUK> again, no source, cant do that
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3184[22:00:03] <TandyUK> would love to :P
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3185[22:00:12] <greycat> I suppose he's not willing to risk
hex-editing the binary.
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3187[22:00:32] <TandyUK> its encoded/encrypted node.js
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3188[22:00:34] <jhutchins_wk> TandyUK: Most config files have a
"inlude" option that would allow a standard skeleton and
customization from ~/config.js
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3190[22:00:45] <greycat> and you're using this on purpose?
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3191[22:00:54] <jhutchins_wk> Ah.
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3192[22:00:55] <TandyUK> yup, its a wicked tool
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3193[22:01:03] <jhutchins_wk> Closed source java. Great ides.
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3194[22:01:07] <TandyUK> locked down like this primarily to stop
people stealing it
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3195[22:01:07] <jhutchins_wk> idea
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3196[22:01:15] <greycat> *sigh*
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3197[22:01:23] <TandyUK> so i kinda get the authors point for
doing it like this lol
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3198[22:01:32] <TandyUK> it would be highly stealable
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3199[22:01:38] <jhutchins_wk> TandyUK: Just like Window$
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3200[22:01:43] <TandyUK> just slightly irritating
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3203[22:02:48] <greycat> OK, obvious next question: *HOW* does it
determine "where it is installed" in order to read the
config file from that place? Can you trick that with a symlink or
something? If it's just using argv[0] then you can.
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3204[22:03:02] <greycat> If it's got a compiled-in absolute
path, then you can't.
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3205[22:03:47] <TandyUK> theres an option to pass in a config
file location, so i'll just do that from my wrapper
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3206[22:03:53] <greycat> Ah! Excellent.
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3209[22:04:26] <TandyUK> it has a few dependencies which must be
located in similarly annoying places, which shot down my other ideas
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3211[22:04:40] <TandyUK> i'll just make the exe the user
runs a wrapper to the real one
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3213[22:04:44] <TandyUK> and all sorted
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3214[22:04:49] <greycat> sounds good
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3215[22:05:06] <greycat> (except for the "exe" part)
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3216[22:05:12] <TandyUK> tbf this wrapper could laos handle
another issue i have
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3218[22:05:52] <TandyUK> we need multiple versions of this
installed concurrently, but i stil lwant /usr/local/bin/newwrapper
to load the latest (in /opt/app/version/...) by default
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3220[22:06:18] <TandyUK> ive been struggling to work out how to
do that from a .deb, while ensuring if i did eg, install v4, install
v1, the symlink doesnt point to v1
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3221[22:06:38] <greycat> Just manually edit the
/usr/local/bin/wicked wrapper each time it's needed.
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3222[22:06:39] <TandyUK> now i just have a .deb for the
individual version, which requires my new .deb for the wrapper
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3223[22:06:54] <TandyUK> and the wrapper itself can handle the
login to find the latest
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3225[22:06:58] <TandyUK> logic*
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3226[22:07:03] <TandyUK> and ofc the config
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3227[22:07:07] <greycat> or you could just edit the thing by hand
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3228[22:07:15] <TandyUK> screw that lol
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3229[22:07:19] <TandyUK> this is for automation :)
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3231[22:09:00] <fassl> you could also create docker containers,
the wrapper copies the ~/config.js file and starts execs the app
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3232[22:09:02] <TandyUK> so far ive got 'press power button
on new vm', dhcp/pxe boot, os install including all relevant
packages, >> ready to use down to about 5 mins :)
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3233[22:09:24] <fassl> -execs
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3234[22:09:26] <TandyUK> at that point our management agent can
just start creating users, deploying their configs and telling
supervisord to start them
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3337[23:09:41] <Mysterytrain> Ok I have a weird problem. I got a
HP workstation, boots with UEFI as is pretty standard these days, no
way to turn it off either. When I ran D-I, I made sure and pointed
the installer at the ESP during partitioning. Use as: EFI system
partition, I think it said. however, when it got to grub, I happened
to be watching it, and it said: running grub-install dummy. dummy?
Never seent hat before.
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3338[23:09:42] <Mysterytrain> so obviously, it did not boot, and
I got a grub rescue prompt on reboot. I chrooted in to the system,
mounted /proc /sys and /dev, so on and scooby dooby, and ran
efibootmgr. efi variables are not supported, it said. what is
happening here.
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3340[23:11:39] <somiaj> Mysterytrain: maybe you booted in legacy
mode. Are you booting from a debian install image, it should clearly
state if you have botted in efi mode
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3346[23:15:27] <Mysterytrain> somiaj: well, /sys/firmware/efi
existed during the install
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3377[23:30:48] <somiaj> Mysterytrain: I mean in terms of your
recovery means, and also at boot the first boot screen should
clearly state you are in efi mode
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3378[23:30:52] <somiaj> !fixmbr
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3379[23:30:52] <dpkg> To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your
Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2),
mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ;
mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ;
mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target),
run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub
&& grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue
mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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3383[23:31:10] <somiaj> If you have grub-efi installed, that
should basically work to isntall grub into the efi partition.
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3385[23:32:25] <Mysterytrain> is it really going to be that easy
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3386[23:32:27] <Mysterytrain> lol
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3388[23:32:57] <Mysterytrain> lets find out
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