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63[00:25:21] <init7> Hi there could someone helps me my vps
doesn't recieve DATA from anywhere how I may enable to be
public to all !!! HELP
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68[00:27:14] <somiaj> you can check if your network is
configured, ip a, but as for details about the network you may want
to contact yoru vps provider.
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69[00:27:16] <petemc> init7: if there is no firewall running a
service configured to listen on externally available interface
should be enough
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72[00:28:29] <init7> somiaj: petemc I don't know I can
connect my VPS just through VNC :O
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73[00:28:44] <petemc> so what doesnt work?
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74[00:29:23] <init7> petemc: nothing my webpages everything is
down :O
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75[00:29:34] <init7> petemc: Can't connect via SSH nothing
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76[00:30:01] <themill> is ssh installed?
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77[00:30:06] <init7> petemc: I can't even ping from the
server like ping google.com or anyip doesn't respond nothing
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78[00:30:21] <init7> themill: Yeah SSH Plesk everything it was
running idk what happend :O
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79[00:30:33] <themill> plesk? you're on your own
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80[00:30:47] <themill> !plesk
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81[00:30:47] <dpkg> Parallels Plesk Panel (formerly Plesk) is a
proprietary web hosting control panel. Not supported in #debian, ask
me about <free whcp> for alternatives.
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83[00:33:22] <init7> themill:
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115[00:53:58] <donald> I downloaded guest additions in a linux
guest system to share a folder between host and guest systems. When
I go in distant viewer -> preference, then I see a windows folder
sharing but I can not select any folder. Can I share my files by
this way ir must I add a filesystem without the distant viewer?
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195[01:15:43] <iodot> any suggestions on what to use to operate
my phone from my desktop debian. mainly to reply to text messages
and make calls.
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378[02:56:08] <jim> hi, any new kernels defending against
spectre and/or meltdown? or any news?
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379[02:57:04] <oerheks> for ubuntu, testing kernels are released
a hour ago,
replaced-url
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380[02:57:41] <oerheks> someone noticed performance decrease by
20% or so
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381[02:57:51] <dvs> jim,
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382[02:58:04] <oerheks> oops, i am in debian :-D
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383[02:58:45] <dvs> !lart oerheks
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384[02:58:45] * dpkg does a little 'dpkg -P oerheks' action
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385[03:01:04] <oerheks> dvs, sorry, i followed jim in ##linux,
hence my mistake
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386[03:02:10] <jim> dvs, thanks
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387[03:02:18] <jim> I'll look :)
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426[03:21:55] <peterpacz1> Hello. This question is about PGP
(GPG), but I'm not sure where else to ask. If I want to share
my public keys, should I share the public key signatures as well?
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429[03:22:23] <peterpacz1> If so, should I share all the subkey
signatures that come with it? I have a master key with certify, and
3 subkeys for sign, encrypt, and authenticate.
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433[03:24:40] <dvs> peterpacz1, I think you just have to share
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434[03:24:48] <peterpacz1> Ah, okay. Thank you.
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436[03:25:05] <dvs> np
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437[03:25:25] <peterpacz1> I ask because Richard Stallman's
GPG key webpage has that additional information in the form of
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438[03:25:26] <peterpacz1>
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449[03:32:09] <daxkuq[m]> Howdy, gurus! What are the nice
Firewall apps?
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450[03:32:48] <dvs> iptables-persistent is good enough for me.
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454[03:35:23] <daxkuq[m]> dvs: I will check it out, thanks!
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455[03:35:43] <dvs> ???
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457[03:35:55] <dvs> oh, no problem
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461[03:37:48] <daxkuq[m]> dvs: Any comment on Opensnitch and
Douane?
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463[03:38:13] <dvs> daxkuq[m], never used them
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debian. For instance, "adb devices" will work, and then
stall indefinitely if I run it again. Can anyone help?
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505[04:04:21] <X|H> Hello7! I installed pyrit using python build
and install with the setup script it came with. I want to remove it
now. I tried apt-get purge pyrit and apt-get uninstall pyrit with no
luck. What am i doing wrong here?
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511[04:07:21] <X|H> Solved it. Should have taken 2 second to
think before typing. Ty.
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512[04:07:27] <dvs> X|H, if you installed it manually,
there's no way that apt-get can uninstall it for you. You have
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513[04:08:16] <X|H> dvs ty
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514[04:08:23] <jesus_juice_21> hi
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519[04:11:54] <dvs> !ask
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520[04:11:54] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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625[05:08:09] <Shmam> Hi, I just installed updates on my
computer through the software center. They have caused lots of
issues with my grahics. No animations work anymore (switching
desktops, opening the application launcher, scrolling on pages has
lots of vertical tearing). Here's all of the packages that were
updated int he last 24 hours:
replaced-url
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626[05:08:10] <Shmam> 42/. How can I revert some of them to the
old versions?
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630[05:11:38] <Shmam> Please send help
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708[06:19:04] <egoist_no_21> hi
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709[06:19:09] <egoist_no_21> two passwd files in /etc is normal?
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710[06:20:17] <somiaj> you mean passwd and passwd-
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711[06:20:23] <egoist_no_21> yes
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712[06:20:41] <somiaj> a backup version afiak
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713[06:20:53] <egoist_no_21> ok thx for info
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731[06:33:34] <Lyberta> hi, what can prevent application
shortcut from showing up in menu?
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732[06:33:40] <Lyberta> I'm using MATE
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734[06:34:11] <Lyberta> I've just installed an app but its
shortcut is not shown
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738[06:37:23] <somiaj> Lyberta: where did you install this
application from?
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739[06:37:50] <somiaj> only applications that supply .desktop
files that the mate menu recongizes will be put in the menu
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740[06:39:56] <Lyberta> somiaj, from synaptic, I see its
.desktop file in /usr/share/applications
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744[06:40:59] <somiaj> could be an issue with how the .desktop
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745[06:41:27] <epicmetal> Some .desktop files have OnlyShowIn
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746[06:41:34] <epicmetal> e.g. OnlyShowIn=GNOME
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747[06:42:04] <epicmetal> But yeah, what somiaj said.
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749[06:43:48] <Lyberta> epicmetal, nope, no OnlyShowIn
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750[06:44:18] <somiaj> the mate menu defintitino only picks up
applications that put them selves in predefined sections,
you'll have to say compare that desktop file to one that you
know shows up and look for differences
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751[06:44:22] <Lyberta> I think I had this app already installed
a few years ago but then I uninstalled, but I didn't mess with
menu
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752[06:44:22] <somiaj> there are lots of configuration options
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910[08:21:04] <shtrb> dpkg, learn "cannot restore segment
prot after reloc:Operation not permitted" after an upgrade from
strech to buster - you need to remove any package that was kept back
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911[08:21:05] * dpkg smacks "cannot restore segment prot after
reloc:Operation not permitted" after an upgrade from strech to
buster - you need to remove any package that was kept back over the
head with a 20 lbs thesaurus.
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912[08:21:13] <shtrb> perfect!
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915[08:21:47] <shtrb> I hope it will save time to some other
person in the future
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922[08:22:39] <themill> shtrb: that's not how it works.
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928[08:22:54] <shtrb> :-( , what is the correct verb for dpkg ?
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929[08:22:56] <shtrb> sorry
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930[08:23:11] <themill> foo is bar
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931[08:23:26] <themill> where 'foo' needs to be
something that people know
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932[08:23:38] <themill> the bot isn't actually sentient
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935[08:24:00] <shtrb> dpkg, 'cannot restore segment prot
after reloc:Operation not permitted' is 'you need to
remove any package that was kept back'
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936[08:24:01] <dpkg> shtrb: I think you lost me on that one
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942[08:25:09] <shtrb> themill, I tried with 'foo' is
'bar' but it does not seem to work either :-(
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949[08:29:55] <themill> shtrb: no quotes. I doubt anyone will
remember that 'foo' however
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953[08:30:18] <shtrb> It's there error which you get :)
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984[08:53:39] <foxmask> bonjello
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986[08:54:24] <nix64bit> foxmask: :)
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1008[09:03:52] <epicmetal> How is it that no package owns
/etc/network/interfaces? I thought it'd be a conffile
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1022[09:07:55] <themill> epicmetal: there are lots of unowned
files. Sometimes it's better that things are not conffiles as
that can make upgrades more tricky
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1023[09:08:55] <jelly> it does not make a lot of sense for a file
that's usually manually edited to be a conffile
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1024[09:09:10] <jelly> eg: dpkg -S /etc/apt/sources.list
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1026[09:10:59] <epicmetal> Ok. I'm probably making
assumptions based on Red Hat
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1037[09:17:37] <Gekko_> I'm on Ubilinux that's based on
debian 9. It's running on an embedded device with USB based
network adapters that have varying device names. The system seems to
use connman, and I'm now wondering what the current method is
to define a system wide, global dns address like /etc/resolv.conf of
old
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1040[09:18:12] <Gekko_> I've tried to change connman so it
starts with --nodnsproxy, but seemingly it still overwrites
/etc/resolv.conf
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1046[09:19:38] <Gekko_> Those USB network adapters seem to not
work with connman's DNS resolution. Doing nslookup just shows
192.168.0.1 for every address (when I do this with an ethernet cable
plugged in, somehow that still works even though nslookup shows that
IP)
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1050[09:20:02] <jelly> !ubilinux
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1052[09:20:20] <shtrb> Gekko_ , some usb ethernet adapters have
captive portal and a type of MITM
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1057[09:21:14] <shtrb> "the devices that you plug a sim card
not the actual Ethernet to usb port"
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1059[09:21:27] <jelly> Gekko_: you'll have to ask your OS
vendor for the right way they expect nameservers to be configured
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1060[09:21:33] <Gekko_> I see
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1061[09:22:06] <jelly> but yeah, that sounds a bit like a captive
portal
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1065[09:24:31] <shtrb> Isn't conman a package for serial
interfaces ?
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1073[09:25:08] <jelly> ,i connman
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1074[09:25:09] <judd> Package connman (net, optional) in
stretch/amd64: Intel Connection Manager daemon. Version:
1.33-3+deb9u1; Size: 380.6k; Installed: 1148k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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1077[09:25:36] <shtrb> I had a typo :)
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1078[09:25:42] <shtrb> ,i conman
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1079[09:25:43] <judd> Package conman (comm, optional) in
stretch/amd64: serial console management program. Version:
0.2.7-1+b1; Size: 117.1k; Installed: 386k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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1081[09:26:32] <Gekko_> It's the first I heard of it
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1092[09:29:14] <shtrb> Gekko_, at least you can create
/etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/nodnsupdate and update
dhclient.conf
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1098[09:30:55] <Gekko_> Already had a prepend rule in dhclient,
will add that nodnsupdate one
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1101[09:31:33] <shtrb> dpkg, nodnsupdate is you can setup a
dhclient hook named nodnsupdate to prevent /etc/resolv.conf
overwrite by dhclient
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1102[09:31:34] <dpkg> okay, shtrb
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1105[09:32:12] <notadrop> what's the best way to have
bluetooth turned off (but not disabled) on boot? I'd like to be
able to toggle it on from the gui and not have to start
bluetooth.service
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1108[09:32:33] <shtrb> notadrop , why don't you it to be
turned off ?
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1109[09:32:41] <notadrop> shtrb: ?
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1111[09:33:17] <notadrop> I don't understand the question,
could you rephrase it
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1112[09:33:23] <shtrb> notadrop , what exactly do you wish to
gain ? no discovery ? not answering connection ? device RF up but no
deamon running ? etc
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1113[09:33:47] <notadrop> shtrb: mainly the first two things you
mentioned
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1115[09:34:05] <notadrop> no discovery not answering connection
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1119[09:36:53] <shtrb> no discovery can be setup under
/etc/bluetooth/main.conf (with a non zero but very low value) but
maybe there is a better way
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1121[09:37:35] <shtrb> Maybe set autoEnable=false ?
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1128[09:40:50] <notadrop> shtrb: that sounds promising, I'll
try that
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1129[09:41:24] <shtrb> but that is not that good idea
(powerconsumption && privacy) wise
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1133[09:43:39] <shtrb> notadrop, but the DE's may auto
enable it
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1134[09:44:15] <notadrop> shtrb: most of the values in here are
set to default values, but the autoenable one was changed. maybe the
DE did that?
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1135[09:44:38] <notadrop> actually, all of the other ones are set
to defaults
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1136[09:44:53] <shtrb> I doubt it
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1138[09:45:28] <notadrop> then that must just be the default for
bluetooth in debian
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1139[09:45:29] <shtrb> this file is not owned by root
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1140[09:45:35] <shtrb> perhaps
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with a bluetooth client or a scanner
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1163[09:53:18] <Gekko_> Well I managed to make the resolv.conf
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1165[09:53:30] <Gekko_> Probably not the most stable solution but
now all the network devices work regardless of what they are called
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1174[09:57:32] <RoyK> Gekko_: you can set dns-nameservers and
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1200[10:10:29] <DK21> cannot start xinit <- giving up
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1201[10:10:37] <DK21> after migration of the harddrives to
another desktop
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1202[10:10:46] <DK21> is it drivers missing here?
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1203[10:10:52] <shtrb> DK21 , which error ?
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1208[10:11:32] <DK21> could not insert 'nvidia_" could
not find module smth like that
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1216[10:15:01] <notadrop> sounds like a drivers thing
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1228[10:20:56] <DustyDin1o> hm, debian testing kernel is still
vulnerable to meltdown/spectre?
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1230[10:20:58] <DustyDin1o> 4.14.7
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1232[10:21:10] <DustyDin1o> any idea, when this is going to be
patched?
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1233[10:21:12] <nix64bit> my nvidea graphics died, i had to load
an earlier version of debian and re-update
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1241[10:23:18] <svetlana> when i plug in speaker jack, in
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1242[10:23:44] <svetlana> why? where is this configured?
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1244[10:24:32] <notadrop> I used alsamixer when I used arch, and
I had some weird issues like that
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1249[10:26:31] <svetlana> i am now asking at #alsa, the channel
topic happened to enlighten me on the meaning of this acronym. what
a find.
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1250[10:27:02] <shtrb> svetlana , I believe it's the default
behavior the might be setup with pavucontrol
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1252[10:27:58] <babilen> DustyDin1o: That's why you
don't run testing alone, but in a mix with unstable and pull in
packages as you see fit
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1253[10:28:01] <babilen> dpkg: tum
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1254[10:28:02] <dpkg> «echo 'APT::Default-Release
"testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit
sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one
set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable
install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as
usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release:
set Preferences->Distribution.
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1255[10:28:22] <babilen> DustyDin1o: There's also a
testing/unstable channel called #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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1270[10:34:52] <DK21> but it says i just cannt load the module
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1287[10:39:51] <shtrb> DK21, you might need to check your logs to
get more information , did you change something recently ? (was it
working before and now not working anymore or are you trying to
setup the nvidia cardfirst time ) ?
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1312[10:50:29] * jordila1 upgrading Debian JEssie >> Stretch ,
here ...
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1314[10:51:01] <jordila1> May i update "deb
replaced-url
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1315[10:51:34] * jordila1 ... (Desktop PC) i think ^^ it is used for
getting lattest Firefox-ESR ...
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1316[10:51:43] <jordila1> I guess, yes...
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1317[10:51:44] <somiaj> read the release notes for best practices
in upgrading. One is to not use a backports source during the
upgrade. YOu can add stretch-backports after
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1321[10:51:55] <shtrb> you should , but I think you
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1322[10:51:59] <jordila1> nice to know somiiaj
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1323[10:52:18] <somiaj> the latest firefox-esr is in stretch from
secuirity, you don't need stretch-backports for that.
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1324[10:52:33] <jordila1> nice to know somiaj
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1325[10:52:57] <somiaj> jordila1: also as shtrb pointed out
ftp.debian.org is a poor mirror, use deb.debian.org
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1328[10:55:19] * jordila1 great... so just commenting / removing the
backports line... && replacing 'jessie >>
stretch', and 'ftp. >> deb.' should do the job
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1329[10:55:30] <somiaj> and read the release notes
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1330[10:56:06] <shtrb> jordial, there things that changed and you
might be blocked ! read the release notes
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1336[10:58:35] <jordila1> umh, does my new (Stretch) sources.list
look stable ? :
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1337[10:58:36] <jordila1>
replaced-url
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1348[11:03:24] <superuser> ha dumb'
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1355[11:06:29] <superuser> your frivolity in essence is you and
your up-hence will come
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1365[11:12:07] * jordila1 of course not... decent sources.list ^^ ,
let's ammend it
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1417[11:39:21] <ben25> i can't acces to the console with
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1418[11:39:29] <ben25> is ther anything i can try?
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1422[11:40:52] <gpunk> it s taken by another X session , try
ctrl-alt f3
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1476[11:59:42] <ben25> nah same, and same for f2
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1478[12:00:12] <ben25> it actually kind of freze the screen, i do
need to ctrl+alt+f7 to use my x back
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1482[12:02:16] <FinalX> is Debian joining the coordinated patch
day tomorrow for "Spectre" (CVE-2017-5715 &
CVE-2017-5753)? I see that "Meltdown" (CVE-2017-5754) is
already fixed in stretch.
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1483[12:02:53] <FinalX> Ubuntu seems to release it tomorrow,
along with Microsoft for the rest of the Windows base.
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1487[12:06:44] <jordila1> oh, i've got '# uname -a
Linux i-ching 3.16.0-4-amd64 ' after upgrading to Stretch ,
what am i missing ?
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1489[12:07:39] * jordila1 .. ah... maybe after reboot, i'll get
the latest Kernel, stupid of me
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1491[12:09:46] <FinalX> hehe
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1503[12:12:17] <TonyVanDam> testing 1...2...testing!
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1506[12:13:33] <jordila> umh... ^ ^ well, it happened. Really.
I've got 9.3 Stretch after dist-upgrade... while '$ uname
-a
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1507[12:13:34] <jordila> Linux i-ching 3.16.0-4-amd64 '
i'm puzzled. What am i missing ?
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1510[12:14:48] <wrksx> hey gusy
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1513[12:15:24] <wrksx> how can I get some information about a
specific kernel upgrade content ?
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1514[12:15:39] <TonyVanDam> does anyone know if Sid gotten
"better"? Or should I just stay with Testing until further
notice?
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1515[12:16:03] <D_Cent> hi, i've got a question about the
PTI patch for debian stretch - i have upgraded to the kernel which
should be safe now (4.9.65-3+deb9u2), but in /proc/cpuinfo i still
don't have "cpu_unsecure" and PTI is not active.
setting pti=on also does nothing
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1525[12:19:55] <TonyVanDam> Later!
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1529[12:20:50] <colo-work> D_Cent, that will only appear in Linux
4.15 proper
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1530[12:20:56] <colo-work> (it's not being backported
afaict)
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1531[12:21:25] <colo-work> D_Cent, you can issue `dmesg | fgrep
isolation` after you reboot to see what it's set to
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1536[12:22:55] <D_Cent> colo-work: Aah thank you!
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1550[12:28:43] <babilen> D_Cent: Look for "Kernel/User page
tables isolation: enabled" in the kernel look and "grep
CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION /boot/config-$(uname -r)" --
assuming that gets you the config of the currently running kernel
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1553[12:28:51] <babilen> s/look/log :)
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1554[12:29:06] <bw\> this might get asked a lot, but i
couldn't find anything online, will/is there a backport for
meltdown for jessie?
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1555[12:29:16] <babilen> There will be, yes
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1556[12:29:22] <bw\> awesome :)
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1557[12:29:27] <babilen> ETA is unknown, but ASAP
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1559[12:29:51] <babilen> wheezy (3.2) has it, stretch (4.9) and
unstable (4.14) has them
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1560[12:30:01] <bw\> yeah, i found
replaced-url
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1562[12:30:07] <babilen> indeed
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1568[12:31:41] <bw\> otoh i could use the opportunity to upgrade
the stretch, i guess
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1572[12:32:06] <babilen> That would be a very reasonable thing to
do
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1577[12:33:52] <D_Cent> babilen: thank you, that's an even
better solution :)
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1609[12:44:02] <TomyWork> W: The repository 'replaced-url
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1610[12:44:13] <TomyWork> did the repo format change between
wheezy and stretch?
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1611[12:44:27] <TomyWork> deb
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1613[12:44:39] <TomyWork> that line works in wheezy but
doesn't work in stretch
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1616[12:45:25] <slax0r> you did change out "wheezy" in
the line, dod you not?
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1617[12:45:29] <slax0r> did*
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1618[12:45:46] <TomyWork> i actually changed it to wheezy to make
sure i have exactly the same line in both
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1619[12:45:58] <TomyWork> similar error in both cases
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1620[12:46:22] <TomyWork> (just with stretch instead of wheezy)
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1625[12:48:30] <TomyWork> i'll see if i can get tcpdump
installed somehow to see which urls it tries to query
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1627[12:48:45] <TomyWork> hah, i'll just tcpdump on the
apt-cacher
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1631[12:51:14] <TomyWork> huh, no request arriving at the target?
that's odd
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1647[12:56:57] <TomyWork> apt picked up http_proxy... works now
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1648[12:57:09] <TomyWork> i added no_proxy
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1659[13:02:12] <ashka> hello, is there going to be an updated
3.16 kernel for oldoldbackports?
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1661[13:03:03] <TomyWork> 3.16 is from 2014
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1664[13:04:15] <ashka> which is not the point, oldoldstable got
an updated 3.2 and I was wondering about 3.16 from oldoldbackports
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1666[13:04:31] <themill> likely
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1668[13:05:16] <ashka> alright, thanks
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1676[13:07:25] <wrksx> when trying to install the package
firmware-linux-nonfree aptitude wants to remove libev4, I don't
get why
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1679[13:07:56] <wrksx> Is there a way to get to know why ?
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1698[13:13:05] <themill> ashka: actually, wheezy-backports seems
to be a closed repo, so probably not. You could probably get the
kernel directly from jessie but perhaps now is the time to upgrade
to a supported release
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1699[13:13:07] <TomyWork> wrksx aptitude has been deprecated
with, i think, wheezy
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1701[13:13:25] <TomyWork> i think it's not tracking changes
made with apt-get and apt properly anymore
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1702[13:13:38] <wrksx> TomyWork: okay, so with apt-get I got the
same thing
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1707[13:13:46] <TomyWork> that is odd
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1708[13:13:49] <ashka> themill: yeah, the upgrade has been
postponed for a while but I need to manage it soon, thanks
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1710[13:13:56] <TomyWork> wrksx which release?
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1712[13:14:23] <wrksx> TomyWork: it says: libev4 was
automatically installed and not needed anymore after sudo apt-get
install --dry-run firmware-linux-nonfree
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1714[13:14:34] <wrksx> TomyWork: that's on Wheezy
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1716[13:14:55] <TomyWork> wrksx maybe it was needed for the
previous version of firmware-linux-nonfree?
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1717[13:15:02] <TomyWork> check dpkg -s firmware-linux-nonfree
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not be recoverable :-(
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1720[13:15:14] <wrksx> TomyWork: It wasn't installed before
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1721[13:15:21] <TomyWork> that is odd
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1722[13:15:26] <TomyWork> are you sure? ^^
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1724[13:15:56] <TomyWork> i mean by default, apt-get install
shouldnt remove packages, except to resolve conflicts
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1725[13:16:25] * jordila has got 9.3 Stretch ... but is keeping uname
-a Linux i-ching 3.16.0-4-amd64 (1)
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1726[13:16:29] <wrksx> TomyWork: Yeah it just says it's not
needed but it won't remove it until I use apt-get autoremove
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1729[13:16:41] <wrksx> TomyWork: Is this what you expected
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1732[13:16:50] <TomyWork> yes
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1733[13:16:59] <TomyWork> wrksx so it's a leftover from
before
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1735[13:17:12] <TomyWork> nothing to do with that firmware
package
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1736[13:17:18] <wrksx> TomyWork: Ah makes sense
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1737[13:17:33] <TomyWork> or possibly it was installed with
aptitude and it didnt flag it properly
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1738[13:17:34] <jordila> Newbie here, I'm lost... ^^ how can
i get 9.3 Stretch but keeping uname -a Linux i-ching 3.16.0-4-amd64
?
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1740[13:17:49] <TomyWork> like i said, aptitude is deprecated,
use at your own risk :)
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1741[13:17:53] <wrksx> TomyWork: Do you know how I can use aptget
to check if libev4 is currently requiered by something ?
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1742[13:18:07] <wrksx> TomyWork: I'll stop using it right
now =)
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1744[13:18:27] <TomyWork> wrksx if it was require, it wouldnt say
it can be removed
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1745[13:18:32] <TomyWork> +d
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1748[13:19:49] <olebrom> TomyWork: is aptitude deprecated ? ...
and I love it when it comes to investigate dependensies... So now
it's only recommended to use pure apt-get ?
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1757[13:22:52] <TomyWork> olebrom or so i heard
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1758[13:23:42] <themill> aptitude isn't deprecated, it just
doesn't work for upgrades between releases at the moment
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1763[13:24:26] <TomyWork> themill and it often starts up with
uninstalls pre-selected
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1764[13:24:36] <TomyWork> at least it used to for a while
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1765[13:24:40] <TomyWork> was that fixed?
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1767[13:26:09] <themill> it's only ever doing what it was
asked to do
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1768[13:26:12] <TomyWork> yeah, on my ubuntu 14.04, aptitude says
#Broken: 2 and suggests to keep 3 packages
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1770[13:26:21] <TomyWork> right when i start it up
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1771[13:26:45] * jordila system's seems to be recovering stability
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1776[13:27:33] <TomyWork> "Actions -> Cancel pending
actions" fixes it, but it's still annoying and
doesn't really make the tool look trustworthy :)
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1777[13:27:41] <TomyWork> i mean trusty
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1778[13:27:51] <TomyWork> pun crowbared in
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1783[13:30:17] <olebrom> TomyWork: I think You have made
selections/actions in aptitude, which You don't have performed.
When You quit aptitude saves them internally, without any effect on
the main «apt-get».
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1786[13:30:51] <TomyWork> olebrom nope, that's not what
happened
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1787[13:30:59] <TomyWork> as evidenced by the #Broken: 2
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1788[13:31:20] <olebrom> TomyWork it was only a suggestion.
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1789[13:31:33] <TomyWork> you have to take extra effort to get
aptitude into a broken state :)
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1794[13:32:27] <olebrom> I can easly get aptitude into broken
state, but then resolv the broken dependensies before a make perform
the action.
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1795[13:34:03] <olebrom> But when I do dist-upgrade the resolving
in aptitude get to complicated, so then I use plain "apt-get
dist-upgrade" several times.
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1804[13:38:37] <TomyWork> hmm, well on stretch i cant reproduce
it right now
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1812[13:41:12] <olebrom> TomyWork: I have both amd64 and i386
active, so I can make a package conflict between those to in some of
the libraries (most have separate locations so for those both will
install).
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1816[13:42:34] <rich> hi. what is be best strategy for someone
following testing (and wants to continue do that) but does want the
security update speed of stable? should i include stabe in my apt
sources and pin the affected package(s)?
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1817[13:42:34] <TomyWork> i mean i cant reproduce aptitude
starting in a dirty state
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1820[13:43:08] <TomyWork> rich whatever you do, dont mix releases
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1826[13:44:10] <rich> TomyWork: so then what I said is a bad
idea? what else should I do?
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1833[13:48:21] <TomyWork> rich install a stable distribution on a
production system
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1834[13:49:04] <TomyWork> and put your non-production systems
behind a good firewall so that only you can access them
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1837[13:49:33] <rich> im talking more about my day to day use
computer.
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1838[13:50:08] <TomyWork> ah
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1840[13:50:14] <TomyWork> well use a stable system
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1841[13:50:24] <rich> that's the only tip you have :D
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1842[13:50:44] <TomyWork> it's a tautology actually. use
what exists
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1844[13:51:39] <TomyWork> if you need something from the bleeding
edge, there are plenty of options these days
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1845[13:51:45] <TomyWork> vagrant, docker
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1846[13:52:10] <rich> not an option for me.
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1848[13:52:49] <TomyWork> do you actually need anything from
testing?
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1849[13:53:30] <rich> still don't get why it's not
recommended to include stable and testing in apt sources and prefer
for all packages the testing version but in cases of meltdown pin
that package to stable.
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1851[13:53:45] <TomyWork> maybe themill can explain that in more
detail :)
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1852[13:53:57] <themill> hm?
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1854[13:54:03] <TomyWork> he wants to mix releases
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1855[13:54:54] <rich> just in times like these with mealtdown. it
doesn't feel right to wait the 10? days till it gets patched in
testing
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1856[13:55:05] <SirLagz> rich: Meltdown is already patched in
stable
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1857[13:55:07] <themill> rich: packages in stretch security have
lower version numbers than in testing; even if they would work with
the libraries in stretch, apt wouldn't install them.
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1858[13:55:33] <rich> SirLagz: I know.
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1859[13:55:36] <themill> rich: if you're running testing you
should consider adding unstable to your sources.list and use
appropriate pinning to pick up security updates.
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1860[13:55:39] <rich> themill: hmm :(
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1861[13:55:41] <SirLagz> rich: and the wait time was more like 2
days.
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1862[13:55:46] <themill> if that sounds like too much work,
don't use testing.
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1867[13:56:54] <rich> themill: no that would be okay. so using
testing and unstable. and pin the still vulnerable package (in
testing) to unstable
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1873[13:57:56] <rich> themill: and this would lead to no problems
with dependecy versions?
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1874[13:58:33] <bsdnoob> has there been a patch released yet?
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1875[13:58:35] <themill> if a package is caught in amongst a
transition, then you won't be able to install the new version
until the transition is complete
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1877[13:58:56] <SirLagz> bsdnoob: patch for meltdown/spectre?
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1879[13:59:04] <bsdnoob> SirLagz, yes
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1880[13:59:19] <bsdnoob> I don't expect it for spectre yet
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1882[13:59:27] <rich> SirLagz:
replaced-url
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1883[13:59:41] <SirLagz> bsdnoob: what rich pasted.
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1889[14:01:17] <bsdnoob> why is buster still unpatched :(
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1891[14:01:47] <SirLagz> bsdnoob: ah, yes only Meltdown is
patched.
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1892[14:01:56] <SirLagz> bsdnoob: spectre is still unpatched as
of y et
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1893[14:02:11] <bsdnoob> yeah upstream is still struggling with
it
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1897[14:05:29] <jelly> bsdnoob: there are no promises of security
updates for testing.
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1899[14:05:51] <bsdnoob> jelly, they patched sid
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1900[14:06:05] <jelly> bsdnoob: so use a testing unstable mix.
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1901[14:06:11] <themill> bsdnoob:
replaced-url
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1902[14:06:19] <jelly> !tum
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1903[14:06:20] <dpkg> «echo 'APT::Default-Release
"testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit
sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one
set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable
install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as
usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release:
set Preferences->Distribution.
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1904[14:06:23] <jelly> !debian-next
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1905[14:06:23] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1906[14:06:46] <bsdnoob> huh I get
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1907[14:06:46] <bsdnoob> Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)
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1908[14:06:48] <jelly> testing is for TESTING stuff, it's
not a debian with newer packages
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1909[14:07:05] <jelly> if you use it as "newer debian"
you should be aware of all the caveats
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1910[14:07:11] <themill> *headdesk*
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1911[14:07:22] <jelly> bsdnoob: you didn't read the factoid
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1912[14:07:35] <bsdnoob> wtf is factoid?
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1915[14:07:43] <jelly> what dpkg said for "debian-next"
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1916[14:07:59] <jelly> read it. again. to the end.
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1918[14:08:27] <bsdnoob> whoops
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1919[14:08:35] <SirLagz> lol
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1921[14:08:56] <jelly> if ONLY we had foresight to add that info
to the channel topic!
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1925[14:09:26] <SirLagz> jelly: still wouldn't help.
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2013[14:45:55] <V7> Hey all :)
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2014[14:46:15] <V7> So if I'm installing package like:
"apt install mysql-server" and it installs package
"mysql-server-5.7", so now this means that it asks debconf
for question of "mysql-server-5.7" ?
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2023[14:50:25] <FinalX> ew, I just upgraded 4 machines from
jessie to stretch (with the latest kernel, too), and 1-2 minutes
after first boot, the machine just rebooted itself with no warning
or anything in the log. then after that crash, everything worked
just fine and the machines are now up for 3+ hours without any
issue. weird.
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2024[14:50:56] <V7> FinalX: check for meltdown
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2026[14:51:45] <TomyWork> V7 mysql-server is probably a virtual
package
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2027[14:51:55] <V7> What do you mean ?
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2028[14:52:00] <V7> It's like a link ?
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2029[14:52:04] <TomyWork> !virtual
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2030[14:52:04] <dpkg> from memory, virtual is when you can see
it, but its not there, as opposed to hidden, where you can't
see it, but it is there, when its gone, then you can't see it
and it isn't there. a model of reality, in a handy carrying
case, or <virtual package>, or <virtualization>.
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2031[14:52:09] <TomyWork> !virtual package
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2032[14:52:10] <dpkg> A virtual package doesn't really
exist, but represents a function which several real packages
fulfill, which appears in the Provides control file field of another
package. The effect is as if the package(s) providing a particular
virtual package name had been listed by name everywhere the virtual
package name appears. To determine what provides a foo virtual
package, use "aptitude search '~Ppackagename'"
or "/msg judd rprovides foo".
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2033[14:53:12] <FinalX> V7: that's the thing, that latest
kernel in stretch that it's running since the reboot (both with
the normal boot and the crash+reboot after) has that fixed already
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2035[14:53:49] <V7> FinalX: you might fixed your backdoor
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2036[14:53:53] <V7> Thank you TomyWork
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2039[14:54:26] <TomyWork> V7 it's extremely unlikely that
someone has already exploited his particular box
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2040[14:54:28] <FinalX> V7: I don't follow, that makes zero
sense.
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2043[14:55:10] <FinalX> It makes no sense, because if what you
say is true, it'd already been fixed after the initial reboot
into stretch. It wouldn't have rebooted if an outside party
decided to.
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2044[14:55:10] <troulouliou_div2> hi if i want to create an old
iso like 6.x with jigdo what mirror can i use for the pool of debs ?
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2045[14:55:14] <FinalX> It crashed.
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2047[14:55:59] <V7> TomyWork: you know ... there's a good
russian words: be safe and god will bless ya ... so just ...
it's a points because it's "impossible" to know
was it threated or not
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2048[14:56:05] <colo-work> FinalX, check
replaced-url
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2049[14:56:10] <colo-work> ah, sorry
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2050[14:56:14] <colo-work> troulouliou_div2, I meant you
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2051[14:56:17] <V7> s/points/point
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2056[14:57:54] <TomyWork> V7 i don't think there's a
god, so that means nothing to me. regardless, you exclude the likely
causes before moving on to the less likely causes
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2061[14:58:51] <V7> Hm. Might be a good point.
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2085[15:10:55] <bbear> hi
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2086[15:11:02] <bbear> I got kernel panic after reboot
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2087[15:11:13] <bbear> using 2 crypted volumes (one for /, the
other for /home
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2088[15:11:17] <bbear> I'm running debian testing
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2117[15:18:07] <FinalX> ok, another machine suddenly rebooted as
well after jessie => stretch upgrade, in the middle of a libc
upgrad ewith dist-upgrade. now my package lists are gone to hell,
any easy way to recover a backup locally?
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2119[15:19:19] <vape_jesus_juice> Hi
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2123[15:19:46] <FinalX> ah, fixed it, nvm
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2172[15:43:04] <in1t3r> anyone had an issue of udev not
recognising net interfaces in the new 4.14 kernel?
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2199[15:56:26] <in1t3r_> how to check whether the hardware
network interfaces are actually dead integrated ones? I will
probably trying to boot eother debian or gentoo from the usb as from
last reboot in arch my integrated card is not recognised. No
ethernet nor wifi.
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2202[15:56:34] <in1t3r_> SO I'm using external card
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2203[15:56:49] <in1t3r_> lspci do not recognise them
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2205[15:57:59] <darxmurf> cool tool :-)
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2206[15:58:14] <troulouliou_div2> in1t3r_, it is a desktop pc ?
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2208[15:58:43] <darxmurf> in1t3r_: when you say "does not
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2238[16:11:26] <wrksx> I've got the package libev4 on my
system and I have another package installed that depends on it
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2239[16:11:57] <wrksx> but apt-get -s autoremove wants to get rid
of libev4
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2240[16:12:09] <somiaj> what package depends on libev4?
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2242[16:12:21] <wrksx> percona xtrabackup
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2244[16:12:45] <somiaj> I do not see either percona or xtrabackup
in the repos.
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2246[16:13:03] <wrksx> percona-xtrabackup, it's from percona
repo
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2247[16:13:04] <somiaj> did you install these through
debian's package system or some other package/local compile?
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2248[16:13:16] <wrksx> somiaj: I've installed it from
percona's repo
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2249[16:13:18] <somiaj> so you are asking about why some thrid
party repo's package doesn't have its depends setup
correctly?
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2250[16:13:29] <wrksx> somiaj: not really but kinda
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2251[16:13:43] <somiaj> Debian is not the place to report bugs in
thrid party repos, but you can use apt-mark to set that package as
manual if you really need to keep it installed
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2254[16:14:42] <wrksx> somiaj: my issue is apt-get identify
percona-xtrabackup as dependent on libev4, but want's to remove
it anyway. I used to use aptitude, and I think soemthing might have
gone wrong
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2256[16:15:19] <somiaj> if libev4 is wanting to be removed by
autoremove, this means you have no installed packages that depend,
recommend, or suggest libev4.
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2259[16:16:40] <somiaj> If these thrid party packages are supose
to depend on this lib, maybe they have an issue with their control
file setting up the depends correctly. The easy fix is just make
that package a manual install. But any issues/bugs with these thrid
party packges should be reported to their creator.
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2261[16:17:27] <wrksx> somiaj: I understand. The thing is when I
use "apt-cache --installed rdepends libev4" it says
"Reverse Depends: percona-xtrabackup"
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2265[16:18:57] <wrksx> somiaj: I'm not trying to raise an
issue but to understand what makes apt think that package is not
needed even though an installed package depends on it
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2266[16:18:57] <somiaj> it could be a version issue on the
depends. Look at the actual packages depends
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2269[16:19:25] <wrksx> somiaj: you mean like aptget depends
percona-xtrabackup
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2270[16:19:26] <wrksx> ?
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2271[16:19:46] <somiaj> I mean look at the actual package that is
causing the problem, mostly its control file
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2273[16:20:03] <somiaj> what is the actual control field of
percona-xtrabackup.
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2275[16:20:35] <wrksx> somiaj: You just lost me. I have no idea
what's the control field of a package
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2276[16:20:56] <wrksx> ok you said control file not field
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2277[16:21:05] <wrksx> I'm goin to look into that
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2279[16:21:11] <somiaj> !bat
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2280[16:21:11] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
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2284[16:21:45] <wrksx> somiaj: okay thx
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2286[16:21:50] <somiaj> basic info you should be looking at, but
#debian doesn't really support thrid party packages, so you
need to look through this info to try to figure out why the
dependencies are not working as expected, which my guess has
something to do with this third party repo
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2287[16:22:23] <somiaj> apt show will show you control file info
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2288[16:22:29] <wrksx> somiaj: indeed this is the only non debian
package and the only one causing issue
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2291[16:25:00] <wrksx> somiaj: hum the show command doesn't
show any depedency on libev4, maybe an 'undirect'
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2406[17:09:28] <Janni> Hello.
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2410[17:10:03] <Janni> A quick scripting question. I want to use
"less -S" in a shell script, but it doesn't seem to
work properly. Whenever the output is short I don't get to see
anything.
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2412[17:10:37] <Janni> Does anyone know why? When I paste the
script directly into my shell it works fine.
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2417[17:11:05] <jelly> Janni: do you call the script from an
interactive shell with a terminal as well?
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2418[17:11:21] <Janni> I do. But I have to retract my last
statement.
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2419[17:11:34] <Janni> (The one before "I do." :-p)
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2421[17:12:02] <jelly> okay, because less needs a tty
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2422[17:12:44] <Janni> OK, boiled it down to: echo muh | less -F
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2425[17:13:34] <Janni> I assumed that less would behave like
`cat` if everything fitted into one screen.
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2426[17:13:50] <Janni> s/less/less -F/
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2427[17:14:03] <gpunk> anyone used: pam_fprint ?
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2428[17:14:34] <Janni> Anyone know how force less to cat?
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2431[17:14:48] <Janni> (imparsable for any non-computer person)
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2441[17:18:07] <Janni> Found the answer:
replaced-url
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2443[17:18:20] <somiaj> wrksx: apt rdepends will search through
the whole repo, maybe there are multiple versions of the package on
this third party repo, and only some versions depend on libev4
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2446[17:18:42] <Janni> (less -FX)
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2448[17:19:45] <FinalX> heh
replaced-url
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2450[17:19:56] <wrksx> somiaj: somehow the repo was not working
correctly, some issue with the key check
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2451[17:20:33] <wrksx> somiaj: I've reseted it up following
the instructions on percona's website and the depedencies are
now ok
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2452[17:20:49] <wrksx> somiaj: and apt get no longer wants to
remove thepackage =)
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2453[17:21:03] <wrksx> somiaj: thanks for your help
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2502[17:42:47] <Janni> Another shell scripting question: How can
I filter out empty lines from a pipe? In doing so I want to consider
lines containing only control characters as empty.
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2510[17:44:49] <SirLagz> Janni: using grep?
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2511[17:45:10] <FinalX> grep -v '^$'
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2512[17:45:37] <jstolarek> can anyone point me to documentation
for installing a custom-built kernel without replacing kernel
provided by Debian? I want to be able to chose kernel at boot in
GRUB
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2513[17:45:44] <FinalX> or you could instead grep every line that
*has* something.
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2514[17:45:56] <SirLagz> jstolarek: do you know how to compile
the kernel?
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2515[17:45:58] <Janni> I have rows which show in "less"
as "ESC[2mESC[m".
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2516[17:46:21] <Janni> I never know what to make of these
strings, i.e. where to look them up.
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2518[17:47:03] <jelly> Janni: maybe tell less to interpret them
and see what they do? -r
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2519[17:47:26] <Janni> jelly: "ESC[2mESC[m" shows an
empty line.
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2520[17:47:43] <jstolarek> SirLagz: I believe so
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2521[17:47:52] <jstolarek> ie. I just compiled one
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2527[17:49:02] <jelly> jstolarek: just put the kernel and initrd
and modules in the right place, and run update-grub
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2528[17:49:40] <SirLagz> jstolarek: if you've compiled it
from Debian sources, then IIRC `make install` will put everything in
the right spots for you...
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2529[17:49:51] <SirLagz> I could be wrong though, it's been
a while since I've had to compile my own kernel
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2530[17:49:57] <jstolarek> SirLegz: I built from upstrem, ie.
kernel.org
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2531[17:50:04] <SirLagz> jstolarek: ah k. yeah do it all manually
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2533[17:50:28] <jelly> it won't replace the distro kernel,
unless you went out of your way to make the ABI equal to
4.9.0-5-amd64 or whatever's the current distro one
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2535[17:50:47] <jstolarek> jelly: I'll try, give me a few
minutes
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2537[17:51:02] <jelly> jstolarek: or better, use "make
deb-pkg" with an upstream tree to make installable .deb
packages.
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2539[17:51:40] <Janni> Found the answer: These are ANSI CSI
sequences.
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2541[17:51:55] <jstolarek> jelly: according to docs that I found
this will replace existing kernel
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2543[17:52:33] <jstolarek> and since I'm only learning how
to build my kernel I'm not risking
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2549[17:56:25] <jelly> jstolarek: only a package with the exact
same name will replace another package. If your custom package does
not have the same name, but it happens to contains some exact same
paths it will fail to install.
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2550[17:57:06] <jelly> jstolarek: you may have misinterpreted the
docs, or they may be incomplete or just wrong
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2558[18:01:37] <jstolarek> jelly: sorry, perhaps I wasn;t clear.
My understanding was that installing new kernel package will replace
*grub entry* for stock debian kernel
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2559[18:02:04] <jstolarek> anyway, trying a reboot now
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2570[18:05:38] <jstolarek> jelly: it semi-works. I can boot the
new kernel but it has become the default one
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2574[18:06:56] <jstolarek> not exactly what I wanted since the
config is obviously broken and the kernel does not boot :-)
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2587[18:15:46] <MuffinMedic> Hello. I have a package I want to
install that I found on packages.debian.org/sid/ - however, when I
do "apt install package" it says not found. How can I
install it through apt?
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2589[18:15:59] <SirLagz> MuffinMedic: you don't. to install
deb files, you need to use dpkg.
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2590[18:16:09] <MuffinMedic> Oh thx
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2591[18:16:13] <SirLagz> MuffinMedic: why are you trying to
install the sid version rather than the stable version though?
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2592[18:16:21] <MuffinMedic> i dont think there is a stable
version
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2593[18:16:26] <SirLagz> MuffinMedic: what package?
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2594[18:16:32] <MuffinMedic> nnn
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2595[18:16:56] <jelly> jstolarek: configuration of boot loader is
left as an exercise for the reader
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2598[18:17:25] <SirLagz> MuffinMedic: ah, seems you are correct,
there is no stable version.
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2599[18:17:53] <SirLagz> MuffinMedic: Installing sid/testing
packages into stable isn't recommended though, so proceed with
caution.
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2600[18:18:07] <jelly> MuffinMedic: do not install packages from
sid onto your stable release installation. Instead, tell us which
package you need and we can suggest alternative approaches.
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2601[18:18:09] * jstolarek performs the exercise
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2603[18:18:27] <MuffinMedic> I want this.
replaced-url
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2605[18:18:39] <jelly> ,v nnn
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2606[18:18:40] <judd> Package: nnn on amd64 -- buster: 1.6-1;
sid: 1.6-1
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2607[18:18:57] <jelly> ,checkbackport nnn
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2608[18:18:58] <judd> Backporting package nnn in
sid→stretch/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 11).
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2609[18:19:00] <MuffinMedic> I'm on Debian 9.2 FWIW
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2611[18:19:30] <iodot> any good software i can use to manage my
phone? mainly texting and calling
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2612[18:19:39] <jelly> MuffinMedic: you seem to be out of luck,
it's not easily rebuildable for debian 9 platform
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2613[18:19:52] <jstolarek> ugh, I hate GRUB2. I miss the old days
where I could just manually edit grub configuration :(
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2615[18:19:58] <SirLagz> jstolarek: you still can
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2616[18:20:02] <jelly> ,v debhelper
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2617[18:20:03] <judd> Package: debhelper on amd64 -- wheezy:
9.20120909; jessie: 9.20150101+deb8u2; jessie-security:
9.20150101+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 10.2.5~bpo8+1; stretch: 10.2.5;
stretch-backports: 11~bpo9+1; buster: 11; sid: 11.1.2
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2618[18:20:07] <SirLagz> jstolarek: the changes just won't
persist after you run update-grub again
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2619[18:20:23] <jstolarek> SirLagz: that's not w very
satisfying state of affairs
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2620[18:20:23] <MuffinMedic> Drats, thanks.
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2624[18:20:58] <SirLagz> jstolarek: you shouldn't need to
manually edit the grub configuration though
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2625[18:21:14] <jelly> MuffinMedic: it might build if you install
debhelper from stretch-backports, and then take care of other build
dependencies, but there will be some manual work, not as simple as
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2626[18:21:16] <jelly> !ssb
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2627[18:21:16] <SirLagz> jstolarek: I don't think
there's been a case where I've actually had to modify the
grub config to get my system running
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2628[18:21:16] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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2629[18:21:47] <MuffinMedic> jelly: not worth it, but thank you
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2632[18:22:12] <jstolarek> SirLagz: perhaps it is me doing
something wrong - I'm far from being a knowledgable user of
GRUB2
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2635[18:22:23] <SirLagz> jstolarek: depends on what you're
trying to do
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2638[18:23:11] <jstolarek> SirLgaz: a seemingly simple thing.
I'd like to have three grub entries: default for the stock
kernel, my custom kernel and windows bootloader
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2641[18:23:31] <jstolarek> at the moment I can have:
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2643[18:23:33] <SirLagz> jstolarek: and update-grub doesn't
generate it?
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2645[18:23:45] <jstolarek> not exactly in a way I'd like it
to be
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2646[18:24:11] <jelly> MuffinMedic: use upstream's deb
package for debian 9, then, I guess
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2647[18:24:17] <jstolarek> it generates a default entry that
boots my custom kernel, a submenu that allows me to select one of
two kernels and an entry for windows
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2648[18:24:19] <jelly> hopefully it's not too broken
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2649[18:24:27] <MuffinMedic> No worries jelly - I'll pass on
the package. I'd prefer to keep the it 100% stable
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2650[18:24:50] <SirLagz> jstolarek: I see
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2651[18:24:56] <jstolarek> SirLagz: now, I can select as the
default the stock kernel in the submenu
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2653[18:25:10] <jstolarek> but this makes selecting windows
bootloader a bit inconvenient
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2654[18:25:18] <jstolarek> since I have to leave the submenu
first
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2655[18:25:27] <jstolarek> which is kind of annoying
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2658[18:25:48] <jstolarek> especially that what I'm trying
to achieve seems like a fairly simple use case
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2660[18:26:02] <SirLagz> jstolarek: unfortunately that's
beyond my Grub2 knowhow too. sorry
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2661[18:26:23] <SirLagz> jstolarek: perhaps #grub?
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2662[18:26:39] <jstolarek> yes, that might be a good idea
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2663[18:26:40] <mtn> jstolarek: the arch wiki has an excellent
section on grub and configuring it
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2664[18:26:41] <monstr0> MuffinMedic: It looks like they have deb
package for Debian 9 (stretch) here:
replaced-url
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2665[18:26:45] <jstolarek> but not today :-)
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2666[18:26:56] <jstolarek> mtn: ah right, I completely forgot
about that
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2667[18:27:03] <MuffinMedic> ohhh good catch monstr0
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2668[18:27:06] <jstolarek> I'll check it out before asking
on #grub
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2669[18:27:13] <jstolarek> thanks everyone for their help
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2693[18:37:05] <iodot> any good software i can use to manage my
phone from my debian desktop? mainly texting and calling
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2702[18:40:03] <jelly> iodot: what kind of phone? I think
kdeconnect and its android app cam do texting
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2703[18:40:26] <jelly> can*
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2715[18:41:52] <Tarrasquero> hi
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2764[19:07:51] <V7> Hey all :)
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2768[19:08:04] <V7> The situation: as you could see here:
replaced-url
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2769[19:08:05] <FightingFalcon> hi V7
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2770[19:08:21] <V7> So how is it possible to pass this prompt by
default ?
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2775[19:11:36] <jelly> V7: can you find this question in
«debconf-get-selections|grep phpmyadmin» output?
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2778[19:13:14] <V7> jelly: I think no:
replaced-url
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2779[19:13:22] <V7> As you can see there's nothing about
deconfigure
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2780[19:13:24] <jelly> if you can find it you ought to be able to
preseed an answer
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2786[19:13:40] <V7> ought ?
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2787[19:13:54] <jelly> should be able
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2790[19:14:44] <jelly> V7: phpmyadmin/dbconfig-remove sounds like
it, and the comment right before
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2792[19:15:38] <jelly> V7: btw, it's easier for me to point
out things if you use text-based pastebin sites like
paste.debian.net, not screenshots
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2793[19:15:39] <warai_otoko> how can I make apt ignore hash sum
mismatch?
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2795[19:16:04] <warai_otoko> tried aquire stuff, allow stuff,
gzip/bz stuff
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2797[19:16:26] <warai_otoko> message stays the same: "hash
sum mismatch"
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2798[19:16:26] <V7> Thank you jelly I'll try now to set this
one to true
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2799[19:16:33] <jelly> warai_otoko: you can't.
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2801[19:16:54] <warai_otoko> when I browse the source in a
browser I can see the packages
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2802[19:17:02] <jelly> you can remove the affected repo from the
config, or ask the repo provider to fix it
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2804[19:17:10] <warai_otoko> is there another way to download
these?
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2806[19:17:24] <warai_otoko> repo provider is dead
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2809[19:18:12] <jelly> warai_otoko: you can download all the
packages with a downloader tool like wget, and make your own repo
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2813[19:18:35] <warai_otoko> can I download the packages from the
web source, collect them in a folder on my system and install what I
like manually instead?
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2818[19:19:04] <FightingFalcon> How come apt-get packages are
outdated?
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2821[19:19:33] <warai_otoko> no, this is a custom repo from a
private URL
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2822[19:19:58] <warai_otoko> like you share packages from your
web space
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2825[19:20:32] <warai_otoko> but there's something seriously
wrong with the gpg keys which is impossible for me to fix
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2826[19:20:49] <warai_otoko> two options:
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2829[19:21:14] <warai_otoko> please, apt-get, ignore the keys for
_this_ source
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2832[19:21:43] <warai_otoko> or, some tool where I type the URL
and download anything that's available
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2835[19:22:16] <V7> jelly: Now it's asking for "Delete
the database for phpmyadmin?"
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2836[19:22:30] <jelly> if you trust their contents have not been
tampered with
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2837[19:23:18] <warai_otoko> despite that's pure paranoia
IMHO it's a friend of mine
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2838[19:23:25] <jelly> V7: and now you have an idea what to do
with that
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2839[19:23:54] <V7> Yes, but there's might be nothing
looking like this question
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2842[19:24:17] <jelly> V7: I'm not going to read the
screenshots again and hunt for a possible debconf key, you can do it
on your own! I believe in you!
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2843[19:24:50] <V7> jelly:
replaced-url
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2846[19:24:59] <V7> ahahha
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2850[19:25:23] <jelly> V7: or you can hunt through the sources on
sources.debian.org
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2851[19:25:32] <V7> You know .. I've already
"wasted" about ~2.5 hours to find out what's it
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2859[19:30:16] <jhutchins> jessie-backports has updated
linux-image-amd64 to point to the 4.9.0-0bpo5
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2870[19:35:11] <jelly> V7: sources.debian.org says the text comes
from dbconfig-common package,
replaced-url
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2873[19:36:06] <V7> jelly: Hm, thank you I'll try to
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2874[19:36:07] <jelly> V7: but that gives you a hint for the
template name, Template: dbconfig-common/purge
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2875[19:36:14] <V7> oh dear
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2876[19:36:17] <V7> wait
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2877[19:36:23] <V7> phpmyadmin has something like this
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2890[19:47:49] <in1t3r> what can be a issue when netwrk card is
not recognised by the linux and udev?
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2891[19:48:40] <mtn> in1t3r: does it show in lspci and/or lsusb?
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2892[19:48:47] <in1t3r> after reboot damn cannot recongize
anymore a card with ifconfig
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2893[19:48:50] <in1t3r> nope
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2895[19:48:58] <mtn> in1t3r: it worked before in debian?
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2896[19:49:10] <in1t3r> and I dont have custom rules setup.
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2897[19:49:12] <in1t3r> yeap
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2898[19:49:25] <mtn> in1t3r: sounds like a hardware problem.
reset card, etc.
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2901[19:49:40] <in1t3r> how to do that?
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2902[19:50:23] <in1t3r> what the best way to troubleshot this
issue?
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2904[19:50:31] <mtn> in1t3r: open case, remove card. reset card
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2905[19:50:41] <in1t3r> its laptop
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2906[19:50:53] <in1t3r> not sure whether it soldered
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2907[19:50:55] <mtn> in1t3r: usually it can still be accessed
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2909[19:51:05] <blackslide> reboot, check bios
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2910[19:51:10] <in1t3r> and how would I reset it once I get it
out
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2911[19:51:17] <in1t3r> I checked bios
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2912[19:51:25] <in1t3r> nothing there its hp
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2913[19:51:36] <mtn> in1t3r: put it back in, is what I mean. make
sure it has good connections
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2914[19:51:44] <optraz> how do i install cuda version 9.0 using
apt-get?
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2915[19:52:06] <blackslide> what do you mean by network card:
ethernet, or wifi?
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2916[19:52:31] <blackslide> if it's wifi or 3g/4g, it's
a separate card than can be removed/inserted
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2917[19:52:46] <blackslide> Does the unit have a mechanical
on/off switch
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2918[19:53:06] <blackslide> there should be options in the BIOS,
to enable/disable stuff
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2920[19:53:19] <blackslide> can you disable/enable the card from
there
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2922[19:53:42] <blackslide> if it's wifi or 3g/4g you should
be able to disable/enable it from bios
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2923[19:53:53] <in1t3r> yeap now cable do not lit anymore
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2924[19:54:01] <blackslide> if it's hp bios, maybe the
settings are hidden etc
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2926[19:54:28] <in1t3r> you mean like a switch on laptop
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2927[19:54:31] <blackslide> So is it ethernet? In, you plug a
cable in?
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2928[19:54:34] <in1t3r> yeah it have rfkill
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2929[19:54:44] <in1t3r> no but I guess they are both on the same
controler
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2932[19:54:56] <in1t3r> so Now the eth cabkle also do not lit
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2933[19:54:57] <blackslide> I'm still not sure what
you're having issues with
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2934[19:55:10] <blackslide> ethernet or wifi, or both?
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2935[19:55:20] <in1t3r> eth0 and wlano or their uniqe names do
not appear in ifconfig
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2936[19:55:23] <in1t3r> both
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2937[19:55:29] <blackslide> that's weird
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2938[19:55:31] <in1t3r> its the smae card I think
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2940[19:55:36] <blackslide> they are totally different devices
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2941[19:55:42] <blackslide> usually not
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2942[19:55:42] <in1t3r> I know
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2946[19:55:58] <blackslide> ethernet is usually integrated to the
motherboard, wifi is a separate card
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2948[19:56:26] <in1t3r> I use external wifi now
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2950[19:56:28] <blackslide> what happened before reboot? upgrade?
dist-upgrade? ??
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2952[19:56:35] <mtn> in1t3r: put the results of lspci -nn and
lsusb on dpaste.com and give us the link
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2953[19:56:47] <mtn> lets see if it sees it or not
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2968[20:00:36] <in1t3r> nothing special just a regular work
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2969[20:00:38] <in1t3r>
replaced-url
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2973[20:02:14] <mtn> in1t3r: and lsusb?
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2976[20:03:54] <in1t3r>
replaced-url
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2977[20:04:28] <mtn> in1t3r: did you switch kernels recently?
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2979[20:04:38] <in1t3r> no
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2980[20:04:48] <mtn> in1t3r: sounds like failed hardware
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2984[20:07:44] <blackslide> weird that wifi and eth both fail at
the same time...
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2985[20:08:00] <blackslide> they usually are on different buses,
and two different devices
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2992[20:11:04] <blackslide> but the system doesn't show wifi
nor eth, so they are not recognized.
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2994[20:11:33] <blackslide> Troubleshooting bios would be my next
step, maybe they are disabled there.
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2996[20:12:05] <blackslide> quite weird.. then again, I have no
idea what computer this is on...
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2998[20:12:44] <somiaj> blackslide: they use to work but then
stoped working?
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2999[20:12:48] <somiaj> blackslide: what is the output of
'ip a'
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3000[20:13:18] <blackslide> ^ in1t3r has the issue
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3001[20:13:48] <blackslide> apparently everything was cherry and
after a reboot, eth and wifi are dead
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3002[20:14:32] <somiaj> ahh, I would look at any kernel upgrades
between the last time things were rebooted and now.
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3004[20:15:05] <somiaj> but if they aren't showing up in
lspci, lsusb or lshw, but use to, could be some issue with the
firmware/hardware.
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3005[20:16:56] <blackslide> I asked if any upgrades, etc was
done. At least not by the user, maybe security updates ran the
newest kernel patch or something...
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3030[20:23:55] <after> hello
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3032[20:24:35] <blackslide> :beers:
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3036[20:26:41] <blackslide> umm, how does one mount sdcard inside
an usb sdcard reader? lsusb says: Bus 002 Device 016 xxxx:xxxx
Delkin Mass storage device
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3040[20:27:31] <jelly> blackslide: look at dmesg (or
/var/log/kern.log) after you plugged it in, see which sd* device it
presented
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3042[20:27:50] <somiaj> blackslide: check blkid and see if it
assigned the partition/filesystem a device node
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3044[20:28:14] <blackslide> sd 6:0:0:0:
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3045[20:28:20] <jelly> oh, that or lsblk might be easier, yes
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3046[20:28:26] <blackslide> [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
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3047[20:28:32] <egoist_no_21> hi
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3048[20:28:49] <jelly> blackslide: ls -la /sys/block/ |grep
6:0:0:0
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3049[20:29:12] <jelly> so it's /dev/sdb, then. If
there's a partition on it it might be a /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb5
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3052[20:29:39] <blackslide> no /dev/sdb
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3053[20:29:53] <blackslide> ls -la /sys/block/ shows it as sdb
too...
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3055[20:30:03] <jelly> blackslide: di you also see sdb being
disconnected after that?
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3056[20:30:06] <jelly> do*
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3066[20:30:31] <blackslide> at least sudo mount /dev/sdb says: no
medium found on /dev/sdb
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3067[20:30:32] <blackslide> nope
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3068[20:30:37] <blackslide> it's all there
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3070[20:30:52] <nkuttler> blackslide: cat /proc/partitions ?
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3073[20:31:07] <somiaj> you have to state both a device and a
mount point, mount /dev/sdb will do nothing unless you have that in
your /etc/fstab
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3075[20:31:22] <blackslide> if I remove the stick, then it says
USB disconnect in dmesg
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3076[20:31:29] <blackslide> yes
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3077[20:31:34] <blackslide> I have /media/usbstick
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3078[20:31:34] <somiaj> blackslide: did you tell mount where to
mount the file system.
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3079[20:31:37] <blackslide> yes
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3080[20:31:47] <blackslide> sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/usbstick
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3081[20:31:52] <blackslide> sorry for being short :D
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3082[20:32:08] <somiaj> and there is no partition /dev/sdb1 only,
/dev/sdb?
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3083[20:32:13] <blackslide> it should be a fat32 fs
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3084[20:32:24] <blackslide> lsblk doesn't find sdb
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3085[20:32:29] <blackslide> only sda
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3086[20:32:36] <blackslide> and loop012
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3087[20:32:56] <somiaj> lsblk looks for filesystems, not just
devices, for some reason it isn't seeing any partition or
recongizeable file system on /dev/sdb
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3088[20:33:24] <somiaj> does /dev/sdb have a partition table,
'fdisk -l /dev/sdb'
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3091[20:33:50] <blackslide> Media not found
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3092[20:33:56] <jhutchins> Also check your dmesg to see what it
thinks is being plugged in.
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3098[20:34:04] <blackslide> so apparenty it's fu'd..
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3101[20:34:29] <jhutchins> blackslide: Likely, but maybe udev is
assigning a different name.
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3102[20:34:34] <in1t3r> reset card didnt help
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3103[20:34:38] <jhutchins> blackslide: dmesg will show.
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3104[20:34:47] <blackslide> dmesg shows sdb
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3105[20:35:04] <somiaj> in1t3r: can you see any of the network
cards (or configs for them) in your firmware/bios?
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3106[20:35:04] <blackslide> sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI
removable disk
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3107[20:35:12] <V7> Which files we should remove to do not see
this message when installing phpmyadmin ?: Reinstall database for
phpmyadmin?
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3108[20:35:36] <hiexpo> hello all I installed a new theme and
love it but when I switch to Root I loose the them it seems like it
goes back to system I am running debian jessie mate
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3112[20:35:54] <jhutchins> in1t3r: does rfkilllist show it?
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3113[20:35:55] <V7> I mean, I've already executed these
commands before installing phpmyadmin: apt purge phpmyadmin
&& apt purge mysql-server
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3115[20:36:22] <jhutchins> blackslide: So dmesg shows it being
configured as sdb, but fdisk -l doesn't show it?
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3116[20:36:24] <blackslide> when I unplug the usb sd card reader,
it disconnects in dmesg and sdb disappears..
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3119[20:36:29] <ansh> exit
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3120[20:36:31] <somiaj> hiexpo: easy fix, you shoudl'nt be
running xorg as root in the first place.
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3124[20:36:45] <blackslide> fdisk -l says no media, lsblk only
shows sda...
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3126[20:36:57] <somiaj> hiexpo: if you installed the theme as the
user, it is in the users $HOME, root will have a different $HOME dir
you have to copy the theme to.
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3127[20:37:15] <jhutchins> blackslide: Paste the whole output of
fdisk -l at paste.debian.net
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3128[20:37:18] <somiaj> blackslide: are you sure the sd card is
even good, has a filesystem on it? Do you have other cards you can
test?
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3136[20:38:22] <blackslide> not much to paste
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3137[20:38:39] <blackslide> fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: Media
not found
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3138[20:38:54] <blackslide> (well, says "Mediaa ei
löydy") since it's in finnish
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3140[20:39:39] <hiexpo> somiaj, I don't run X as root normal
but like whem i open synaptic etc.
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3146[20:40:09] <in1t3r_> you mean rf list wifi
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3148[20:40:15] <blackslide> it's an old nokia DT-11 USB >
SD-card reader, and there's an SD > microSD adapter >
16GB microSD card
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3152[20:41:02] <in1t3r_> nope just showing phy0
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3153[20:41:08] <in1t3r_> which is in this case usb
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3154[20:41:20] <in1t3r_> It should show two interfaces
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3157[20:42:32] <jelly> blackslide: did this sd card ever work
with this reader, in any OS?
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3158[20:42:57] <jelly> if it's an old reader it might just
not support newer cards properly
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3160[20:43:01] <blackslide> yes.. might it be, that the card is
too big...
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3161[20:43:03] <blackslide> yea
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3166[20:44:50] <blackslide> I'll try 2GB card once I find
something to open my phones sim card tray :D
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3170[20:45:20] <glassresistor> so
replaced-url
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3171[20:45:41] <glassresistor> and how do i check to see what
version is should be
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3174[20:46:19] <Iridos> there is a separate repository that
distributes security fixes. It should be enabled on all machines.
The fixed version is in there.
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3175[20:47:00] <blackslide> brb
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3192[20:50:23] <deb_user> hello guys
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3197[20:51:32] <deb_user> what version of gnome uses debian?
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3201[20:52:07] <Iridos> judd, versions gnome-desktop
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3202[20:52:08] <judd> No package named 'gnome-desktop'
was found in amd64.
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3203[20:52:25] <Iridos> judd, versions gnome
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3204[20:52:26] <Iridos> meh
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3205[20:52:26] <judd> Package: gnome on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:3.4+7+deb7u1; jessie: 1:3.14+3; stretch: 1:3.22+3; buster:
1:3.22+7; sid: 1:3.22+7
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3207[20:52:43] <Iridos> ignore the 1:
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3209[20:53:04] <blackslide> just was going to say, stretch has 3
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3213[20:53:23] <Iridos> also,
replaced-url
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3220[20:53:56] <blackslide> I've always used enlightenment
or some of the really light ones... But Gnome 3 is quite nice with
this touch-tab/laptop
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3223[20:54:21] <glassresistor> Iridos: this one? deb
replaced-url
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3225[20:54:33] <Iridos> yes
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3226[20:55:00] <Iridos> and different than the other ones, that
one is not a mirror
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3227[20:55:03] <blackslide> still haven't found out, how to
automatically make the on screen kbd turn on/off when
docking/undocking the tablet from the physical keyboard..
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3231[20:57:39] <blackslide> I really can't find a proper
sized pin to open the darned tray.. but apparently I'm not
missing any drivers, since the device gets recognized correctly and
attaches to /dev/sdb..
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3233[20:58:43] <blackslide> probably just a case of corrupt card
or reader has issue working with XHC SD cards
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3236[20:59:54] <blackslide> This Lenovo Helix is quite nice, but
lacking in connectivity.. a tablet/laptop convertible without
internal SD card reader is weird...
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3257[21:07:33] <blackslide> Does anyone have any ideas on how to
make the on screen kbd appear when plugging the tablet into the
keyboard/dock?
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3259[21:08:22] <blackslide> Docking/undocking is detected by the
system by a few events
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3260[21:09:00] <blackslide> ACPI sees BAT1: docking/undocking and
thinkpad_acpi: docked into hotplug port replicator
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3262[21:09:30] <blackslide> could I use the events to trigger a
change in accessibility settings: on screen kbd on/off?
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3276[21:14:12] <noqnio1> why is xserver-xorg-input-libinput
preferred over xserver-xorg-input-synaptics on the wiki ?
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3279[21:15:28] <blackslide>
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3280[21:15:35] <blackslide> explained here
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3281[21:16:26] <noqnio1> ty
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3282[21:16:32] <blackslide> or not :D
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3284[21:16:41] <blackslide> I'm not sure if that totally
answers your question :D
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3285[21:16:51] <noqnio1> I didn't read it yet !
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3287[21:17:13] <noqnio1> Oh, so it refers to a specific issue
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3290[21:17:53] <blackslide> gnome control center uses libinput
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3292[21:18:13] <noqnio1> So if i install synaptics do i mess
stuff up?
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3295[21:19:03] <blackslide> not sure, apparenlty you'll lose
control over in it gnome control
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3298[21:19:19] <blackslide> but if you use another window
manager, etc. then it might not matter
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3300[21:19:32] <blackslide> maybe someone is wiser than I am on
this matter??
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3304[21:20:39] <noqnio1> You know what, maybe I should stick with
libinput
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3305[21:20:55] <noqnio1> I just wanted accelerated mouse
scrolling
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3306[21:21:03] <noqnio1> i can live without it
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3313[21:24:45] <roger_roger> have any of you been applying the
patches to mitigate against spectre/meltdown?
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3315[21:25:11] <annadane> roger_roger, meltdown is patched in the
new stable kernel
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3317[21:25:22] <annadane> spectre isn't known how to defend
against yet
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3318[21:25:33] <roger_roger> i'm running jessie with
3.16.0-4
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3319[21:25:55] <roger_roger> i guess i should give it a whirl
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3321[21:26:11] <annadane> jessie isn't patched yet
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3322[21:26:17] <roger_roger> great
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3325[21:26:29] <roger_roger> maybe i should upgrade then
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3331[21:28:37] <roger_roger> ugh, my xen 7.2 doesn't support
stretch
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3335[21:30:21] <blackslide> umm, I'm fine with libinput,
just missing pinch zoom..
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3336[21:31:03] <blackslide> also, i have hid_multitouch enabled,
but I've only got mouse like functionality, not multitouch
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3339[21:32:26] <blackslide> at least in chromium, you can change
settings to mitigate the meltdown issue
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