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25[00:09:09] <syshape> When I try to paste using the mouse with 'sudo vim' or 'sudoedit', I can only paste some content that I did copy in the same instance of vim, not from other windows. Besides I can't paste normally with 'sudo nano' for example. Do you know what to do ?
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33[00:12:22] <n4dir> copy from vim to vim ? why use the mouse for that? from other windows: did you try :insert ?
34[00:12:47] <n4dir> seems to be a different problem anyway, as you say the problem exists for nano too
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45[00:22:30] <astronavt> syshape: you're in X?
46[00:22:38] <astronavt> the + register is the system clipboard
47[00:23:10] <astronavt> "<register>p or "<register>y are paste and copy _from a register_
48[00:23:12] <astronavt> so "+p
49[00:23:16] <astronavt> to paste from the system clipboard
50[00:23:24] <astronavt> there's also the * register, "*p
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53[00:25:03] <astronavt> yeah. "+ is the x11 clipboard, "* is the x11 primary selection
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145[01:17:24] <Th3Z0h4n> Hey gents, It appears that my grub setup can't load my second partition's kernels. Correctly auto detected values in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, "file not found" at boot time. Rings any bells? Any suggestions - pointers? Thanks in advance.
146[01:17:48] <Th3Z0h4n> both partitions ext4
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153[01:22:37] <fssdd> hi
154[01:22:57] <fssdd> is xen working on debian? my computer doesn't boot with it. maybe i need to change something in the bios?
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180[01:37:26] <RoyK> fssdd: iirc xen works, but why? kvm is better
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187[01:42:03] <fssdd> ok never worked with kvm, but i'll give it a shot
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189[01:42:28] <fssdd> maybe i get around fixing xen this way while learning something new
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216[01:50:06] <Arahael> I have an interface, with details taken from dhcp. To test a networking issue, I want to broaden it's subnet. Ie, from 10.0.0.0/24 to 10.0.0.0/16, however, I can't figure out how to do so.
217[01:50:25] <Arahael> The ip route add command requires a gateway, in general.
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229[01:56:01] <RoyK> Arahael: ip addr add route # etc
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231[01:56:40] <RoyK> Arahael: you need to set the netmask to something broad like /8 for 10/8
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241[02:01:31] <Arahael> RoyK: Turns out that just adding the address was enough. Can't do it by route, beause that requires a gateway, and I wanted link-local.
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243[02:03:41] <RoyK> Arahael: the address is the one that has the netmask
244[02:04:17] <RoyK> ip a add 10.1.2.3/8 dev blabla
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247[02:04:33] <Arahael> Yep... That's the addr, I misinterpreted what you said.
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249[02:05:00] <RoyK> ip a == ip addr
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251[02:05:15] <RoyK> the ip command takes a lot of shortcuts
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255[02:06:05] <Arahael> Yep, but did you mean "route", or was that a placeholder?
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280[02:17:41] <awal1> what happens with main debian channel on oftc?
281[02:18:07] <awal1> just registred/identified users?
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283[02:18:20] <awal1> -R mode or what?
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286[02:19:42] <LtL> awal1: just registered and identified is all
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288[02:20:22] <LtL> awal1: if i understand you correctly that is
289[02:20:41] <awal1> well, I use always this nickname but not registered it yet :(
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292[02:21:10] <awal1> #debian :Cannot join channel (Need to be identified and verified to join this channel, '/msg NickServ help' to learn how to register and verify.)
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296[02:22:17] <LtL> awal1: you don't need a cloak, just registered and identified w/nickserv
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299[02:22:56] <awal1> Ltl, I may register later, yeah
300[02:23:55] <LtL> awal1: you can add a second nickname to your original acct. over there, just like freenode i believe
301[02:24:04] <Sveta> yes
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320[02:32:59] <awal1> it was a temporal technical issue
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329[02:45:28] <binary106> hi guys i'm building a CI/CD server and want to checkout dozens of git branches. 9k files in repo. Is there a way to de-dupe all those files in common somehow?
330[02:46:01] <binary106> transparently* de-dupe
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407[03:31:37] <CW_Texashack> Hello!
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409[03:32:30] <CW_Texashack> How are you?
410[03:33:38] <Sveta> hi CW_Texashack :-)
411[03:34:04] <CW_Texashack> So, what distro are you on?
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414[03:35:34] <LtL> CW_Texashack: we like to direct casual chat to #debian-offtopic this channel is for debian support sorry.
415[03:35:58] <awal1> anyone uses adwaita theme and some gtk2 based app?
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421[03:36:47] <awal1> say hexchat
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423[03:37:02] <LtL> awal1: yes i do
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425[03:37:40] <LtL> awal1: adwaita dark
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427[03:38:07] <awal1> Ltl, if you write in hexchat text bar something like 123 and you try to place the mouse cursor bar (|) between 2 and 3 what happens?
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429[03:38:28] <awal1> it gets placed after 3 or 2 and 1?
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431[03:38:39] <awal1> it gets placed after 3 or between 2 and 1?
432[03:38:39] <LtL> awal1: let me check
433[03:40:07] <LtL> awal1: i can put it in between 1 and 2 and 2 and 3
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435[03:40:35] <awal1> Ltl, can you try with letters?
436[03:40:39] <awal1> say abcd
437[03:40:50] <awal1> LtL
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440[03:41:47] <LtL> awal1: i can put it anywhere, but i need to click one character to the left
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443[03:42:55] <awal1> LtL, you mean if you want to place | between 2 and 3 you need to place | after 3 or before 2 and clic?
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445[03:43:50] <LtL> awal1: yes before 2 to get it between 2 and three, same with alpha chars
446[03:44:22] <awal1> LTL, that is the problem I wanted to confirm
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448[03:44:24] <awal1> thanks
449[03:44:35] <LtL> awal1: welcome
450[03:44:56] <awal1> It is a bug somewhere, maybe in adwaita pkg, since stretch development
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453[03:45:39] <awal1> LtL, so I'm not the only one affected by that bug, thanks for confirming
454[03:45:53] <LtL> awal1: no problem
455[03:45:55] <awal1> maybe some one can help debugging this weird issue
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457[03:46:27] <awal1> because it happens with all gtk2 based apps I tried (pcmanfm and so)
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459[03:46:47] <awal1> LtL, do you have any idea ?
460[03:47:01] <LtL> awal1: it is odd, i never noticed this before. adwaita dark has a couple glitches. no i have no idea why
461[03:47:08] <awal1> I want to report a bug but no clue about how to debug such stuff
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465[03:47:43] <awal1> it only happens with adwaita (standard or dark)themes
466[03:48:31] <awal1> it doesn't happen with mate-themes, arc themes or any other gtk2/3 theme
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468[03:49:26] <awal1> I use "blue menta" theme and all fine
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471[03:54:12] <awal1> LtL, you may want to try arc themes (it have bright, dar and darker variants), much better than adwaita
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473[03:54:25] <awal1> dark^
474[03:54:54] <LtL> awal1: thank you, i will give that a try
475[03:55:07] <awal1> np
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485[04:01:45] <LtL> awal1: arc-dark is nice, thanks :)
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489[04:04:41] <awal1> LtL, you welcome :)
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503[04:11:04] <QwertyChouskie> SuperTuxKart just had a new release but still needs to be updated in Debian: replaced-url
504[04:11:05] <QwertyChouskie> replaced-url
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515[04:17:51] <Some1NamedNate> i update the db's very often
516[04:18:10] <Some1NamedNate> for some reason there haven't been pkg updates very often
517[04:18:24] <Some1NamedNate> i expect update whenever i update the db's
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520[04:19:31] <Some1NamedNate> updates*
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525[04:21:22] <QwertyChouskie> thanks
526[04:21:39] <Some1NamedNate> for...?
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529[04:22:35] <QwertyChouskie> the answer? or was that for a different question?
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531[04:23:06] <Some1NamedNate> are you referring to what i said?
532[04:23:23] <QwertyChouskie> yes?
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534[04:24:05] <Some1NamedNate> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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537[04:25:04] <QwertyChouskie> I just saw "update" and "soon", and since my question was about an updated, I assumed it was an answer ;)
538[04:25:12] <QwertyChouskie> *an update
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541[04:25:26] <Some1NamedNate> did you get the same problem?
542[04:25:54] <Some1NamedNate> cause again sometimes i expect udpates whenever i update the db's
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547[04:27:54] <awal1> arc dark theme works almost perfectly with all apps except chromium :P
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594[04:56:30] <Lyberta> i.e. it doesn't find them
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766[07:03:30] <darxmurf> morning
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769[07:06:16] <awal1> which font you recommend guys, the one you consider "the best" ? not looking for a vs b, please
770[07:06:32] <awal1> i usually use sans or deja vu variants
771[07:06:36] <SwedeMike> awal1: I use Menlo Regular.
772[07:06:57] <awal1> SwedeMike, never heard about it
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774[07:07:36] <SwedeMike> awal1: replaced-url
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781[07:11:21] <awal1> SwedeMike, nice
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795[07:24:49] <nix64bit> how do i add my custom bin directory to my xfce start menu?
796[07:25:25] <nix64bit> and what if I have 2 firefox binaries?
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857[08:10:45] <ivh> Input from neither my bluetooth or usb-keyboard comes through suddenly, although though both are connected and recognized. What can be the reason for this?
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880[08:35:44] <ivh> ... a reboot fixed it. Feels like tales people tell from that other OS.
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888[08:42:24] <Sepultura> Hallo
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896[08:45:19] <Sepultura> can you make group directories? A Home Directory for a group of users?
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916[08:55:56] <matt_keys> Hello, I'm able to reproduce replaced-url
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919[08:56:32] <matt_keys> kern 4.9.30-2+deb9u5, qemu Version: 1:2.8+dfsg-6+deb9u3
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927[08:58:58] <somiaj> matt_keys: Have you checked the debian bts for the bug as well. I also notice that it seems to be a very specifc issue, and stretch is frozen so it may not be something debian will fix in stretch.
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934[09:02:30] <matt_keys> somiaj: I didn't see it there. I'm going to add debian as a distro to this one, then make a comment at the bottom.
935[09:03:39] <somiaj> I would see if affects the version in buster/sid. The end of the report said it was fixed in some cases by a newer version.
936[09:03:50] <somiaj> and if it does affect buster/sid, report the bug to debian as well.
937[09:04:11] <somiaj> but to me it dosen't appear that it would be something that would be fixed in debian.
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944[09:05:13] <somiaj> sorry I mean fixed in stretch
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954[09:13:43] <syshape> When I try to paste using the mouse with 'sudo vim' or 'sudoedit', I can only paste some content that I did copy in the same instance of vim, not from other windows. Besides
955[09:13:51] <syshape> I can't paste normally with 'sudo nano' for example. Do you know what to do ?
956[09:14:07] <syshape> I mean I can paste normally with 'sudo nano'
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963[09:17:02] <syshape> And it's the same with "*p and "+p
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997[09:34:58] <pagios> good morning everyone, i am facing a problem installing this package, where can i get more log info about it and fix it? replaced-url
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1002[09:35:56] <babilen> pagios: My guess would be "From kaltura who provided that broken package"
1003[09:36:14] <pagios> babilen, how to fix?
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1006[09:37:25] <babilen> You could look into the post install maintainer script and figure out what *they* did wrong. Should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info
1007[09:37:44] <babilen> But then .. this really isn't a Debian problem, but you deciding to install randomg (broken) packages from third parties
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1010[09:38:58] <babilen> Once you've fixed that error, run "dpkg -a --configure"
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1018[09:43:19] <pagios> babilen, i dont see any error in dpkg/info
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1023[09:48:25] <babilen> pagios: There obviously is one
1024[09:48:35] <babilen> (even if it's not logging/echo'ing anything)
1025[09:48:39] <pagios> can i install that dwh solely?
1026[09:48:46] <babilen> dwh?
1027[09:48:51] <babilen> I have no idea
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1030[09:49:03] <babilen> Those packages aren't in Debian
1031[09:49:24] <xormor> can I get Debian to work in an ARM PC?
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1037[09:50:34] <xormor> replaced-url
1038[09:51:12] <babilen> dpkg: armel
1039[09:51:12] <dpkg> armel is the Debian <ARM> EABI port, first released with Debian 5.0 "Lenny". replaced-url
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1041[09:52:13] <babilen> xormor: Both are release architectures .. so, you should be able to install it, yes
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1049[09:55:53] <pagios> babilen, how would you tackle this problem?
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1054[09:58:31] <babilen> I already told you. Read the maintainer scripts that come with the broken package, fix them, run configure
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1081[10:10:10] <pagios> babilen, you mean the maintainer scripts inside the .deb file?
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1083[10:10:42] <pagios> inside kaltura-dwh.list ?
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1088[10:13:02] <babilen> pagios: As said: You'd find them in /var/lib/dpkg/info/kaltura*
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1090[10:13:44] <pagios> babilen, replaced-url
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1094[10:15:12] <babilen> pagios: Looks like a good candidate, yeah
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1100[10:17:59] <babilen> You could just add "exit 0" in the second line and run "dpkg -a --configure" to make it "install", but then all the things that might need to get done will not be performed and the software might not work as expected
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1102[10:18:19] <babilen> For it to work you'd have to figure out what's wrong and fix it
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1154[10:38:58] <pagios> babilen, seems hard
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1159[10:43:25] <hammer065> I have a question about a package
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1161[10:44:28] <hammer065> which core functionality is heavily affected by changes in the Debian build
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1163[10:45:11] <petn-randall> hammer065: Ask; if someone knows the answer they'll respond.
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1167[10:47:12] <hammer065> tl;dr: The time of sl is so heavily modified from upstream, its loosing its benefit completely
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1170[10:47:42] <hammer065> Regardless that it isn't even installed in a standard directory
1171[10:47:49] <jelly-home> hammer065: sl?
1172[10:47:56] <hammer065> Correct
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1174[10:48:03] <jelly-home> the ascii art choo choo?
1175[10:48:09] <hammer065> Correct
1176[10:48:12] <jelly-home> nod
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1178[10:48:46] <hammer065> On Debian, its sped up so heavily that it looses its benefit
1179[10:49:08] <jelly-home> best file a bug report
1180[10:49:19] <mrig> Hello, Do the 3 DVD ISO images that are offered for download on the debian website correspond to the first 3 hash values shown in the listings; There are more DVD's there than are available from the site?
1181[10:49:23] <jelly-home> !reportbug
1182[10:49:23] <dpkg> reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. See replaced-url
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1185[10:50:32] <hammer065> Is there a way to report a bug _not_ using Debian?
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1187[10:50:46] <hammer065> Or a Debian-oid system?
1188[10:51:05] <tarzeau_> hammer065: any system which can send mail
1189[10:51:13] <hammer065> Perfect
1190[10:51:14] <petn-randall> hammer065: If you're not running Debian, you shouldn't report bugs to Debian, but your distro.
1191[10:51:22] <mrig> Ah yes, I have just checked the sum against the ISO, I have been trying to check against my created USB drive; Having a little difficulty.
1192[10:51:44] <tarzeau_> petn-randall: he probably does run debian, but not on the one he wants to report the bug from. not all debian systems are internet connected
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1194[10:52:05] <jelly-home> hammer065: it's basically a mail message. Best confirm the bug really exists in Debian as well, tho
1195[10:52:24] <hammer065> I am, proudly, not running Debian, however my company is uses it on a machine I need to use once a week
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1198[10:53:01] <jelly-home> hammer065: you can run reportbug on that machine, let it generate the mail message, and send it from elsewhere
1199[10:53:13] <hammer065> Okay
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1201[10:53:15] <hammer065> Thanks
1202[10:53:32] <jelly-home> what you run on other machines is not really relevant, as long as they can send a plaintext mail
1203[10:53:59] <hammer065> Is there any way to look into the source which is getting used in Debian builds of applications?
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1205[10:54:29] <tarzeau_> hammer065: replaced-url
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1214[10:59:01] <jelly-home> clearly this important loss of functionality should be remedied post-haste
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1219[11:00:45] <hammer065> Exactly
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1223[11:01:31] <Lyberta> how come /bin/sh spawned from GUI process doesn't read ~/.profile?
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1228[11:02:59] <jelly> hammer065: fwiw the choo choo is not too fast on my debian 9
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1230[11:03:25] <jelly> sl 0.03s user 0.00s system 0% cpu 5.505 total
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1234[11:05:04] <rudi_s> Lyberta: Because only login shells read ~/.profile
1235[11:05:36] <Lyberta> rudi_s, how can I make read profile? or how to inject a changed PATH into it?
1236[11:06:15] <rudi_s> Lyberta: You can't. But you can export your PATH in your ~/.xsessionrc which is loaded when your X starts.
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1238[11:06:24] <Lyberta> hmm
1239[11:06:27] <Lyberta> gonna try
1240[11:06:52] <rudi_s> (You have to logout/login to apply those changes.)
1241[11:07:20] <Lyberta> yeah, I understand, I messed with .xsessionrc in the past, it sets my mouse sensitivity
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1253[11:13:07] <Lyberta> rudi_s, yes, that worked, thanks
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1359[12:09:54] <Janni> Hello.
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1363[12:11:25] <Janni> I'm looking for a grub configuration/image that automatically detects existing OS installations to chainload and presents them in a menu. Does anyone know where I could get such an image?
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1437[12:49:41] <dff> is there a way to preconfigure wifi settings and drop it in an img file of debian to run off an external device?
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1441[12:50:19] <doublehp> what is "pip" (related with git or python)
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1443[12:51:03] <petn-randall> doublehp: python package installer
1444[12:51:18] <doublehp> petn-randall: how do i install it ?
1445[12:51:26] <petn-randall> doublehp: look at 'man pip' or the package description of python-pip.
1446[12:51:40] <doublehp> ok, thanks
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1448[12:52:18] <petn-randall> yw
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1472[13:06:18] <mac-> hey, I have added user to additional group (it is not his primaty group) but now after he relogin with ssh he can't see this new group when do id or groups
1473[13:06:21] <mac-> ControlMaster is not set in ssh_config
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1475[13:08:37] <brainacid> Anyone using i386?
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1478[13:09:02] <SwedeMike> brainacid: yes.
1479[13:09:06] <brainacid> Im running antiX 17 (Debian 9 non-systemd) on a old P4 and runs well
1480[13:09:14] <brainacid> Firefox runs good lol
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1483[13:09:56] <brainacid> its interesting that a lot of contributors are from Europe... like linux was invented in Finland
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1528[13:30:34] <Neel> guys can anyone help me set up sound in xfce?
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1530[13:30:46] <Neel> its a new install and i cant get the sound back
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1546[13:39:18] <duser> I am sure the passwd file mode is 600. What goes wrong?
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1608[14:14:19] <filePeter> Hey guys, I have my swap drive encrypted with a random password and just ugraded to stretch. /etc/cryptab and /etc/fstab have been left unchanged. Unfortunately during boot time I get the error: “Faild to find logical volume "laptop_vg/swap_crypt", WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning.” I suspect that the swap drive has not been brought up by cryptsetup. -
1609[14:14:25] <filePeter> Ironically my similarly configured /tmp/ gets up perfectly.
1610[14:14:27] <filePeter> Do you guys have an idea?
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1617[14:16:26] <indistylo> for installing some utility I have to install golang, I followed this link given to install golang replaced-url
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1645[14:26:51] <cybrNaut> do PPAs work on debian? I seem to recall that they don't
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1647[14:27:36] <cybrNaut> the installation for anbox (from anbox.io) involves a "snap" package, which seems to make use of a PPA
1648[14:27:47] <FinalX> PPA scripts are nothing more than adding the key and repositories, but a PPA can only have Ubuntu release packages, not Debian.
1649[14:28:27] <FinalX> (official Ubuntu repositories only accept packages for releases of themselves iirc)
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1651[14:28:44] <FinalX> but PPA is an Ubuntu-invention, so you're probably asking on the wrong channel :p
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1657[14:30:54] <jelly> cybrNaut: automated PPA builds only build for ubuntu releases; if a package works for debian it's accidental
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1662[14:33:53] <cybrNaut> so to be clear, will this install fail? replaced-url
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1664[14:34:13] <cybrNaut> notice that in the screencast there is a PPA involved
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1666[14:34:31] <cybrNaut> had i not seen that screencast, i would have ran that "snap" command
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1668[14:35:12] <jelly> most likely
1669[14:35:12] <FinalX> ...who knows? we're not the authors of the software and it says it runs on any GNU/LInux. the URL you give is for the entire site, btw. It doesn't mention PPA at all, but indeed only snap.
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1671[14:36:05] <FinalX> lxc :: ~ » docker run -it debian:stretch bash -i
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1673[14:36:07] <FinalX> let's find out :p
1674[14:36:38] <FinalX> cybrNaut: replaced-url
1675[14:36:39] <cybrNaut> it's a bit astonishing, b/c it seems to defeat the purpose of a snap
1676[14:36:53] <cybrNaut> maybe i'm misunderstanding snaps.. never installed a snap pack
1677[14:36:54] <FinalX> snap is not ubuntu-specific and doesn't mention the use of PPA's anywhere
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1679[14:37:10] <FinalX> "On Debian snapd is available as part of the testing (currently ‘stretch’) and unstable (‘sid’) versions. It is currently not available in any stable version but will be soon."
1680[14:37:18] <cybrNaut> FinalX: the problem is not snap itself (i already installed that from official debian repos)
1681[14:37:40] <cybrNaut> the problem i'm anticipating is with the snap pack for anbox
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1685[14:38:12] <cybrNaut> FinalX: that's an old comment.. stable is stretch now, and it's available now
1686[14:38:15] <FinalX> then why not just give it a go? it says it works with anything that has snap
1687[14:38:43] <FinalX> it's the official Snap website that states that, it'll need updating, but I merely meant that it's available in stretch.
1688[14:38:58] <FinalX> did you do any kind of researching yourself at all? did you even give it a go?
1689[14:39:05] <FinalX> why start about PPA's if you haven't even tried?
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1691[14:39:16] <cybrNaut> i just found this replaced-url
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1695[14:41:02] <cybrNaut> FinalX: first you say "just run it" then you say "do some research first"
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1697[14:41:15] <cybrNaut> research is what i'm doing.. that's why i'm here
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1702[14:42:11] <FinalX> "research" meaning _read the website_ of the software you're trying to install. read what software you need and what the caveats are. if you have a problem with Debian, we can help you. you don't even know if you have a problem, and we are not the authors of the software nor authors of Snap.
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1704[14:42:32] <FinalX> this is #debian, not #anbox or #snap.. it has nothing to do with Debian..
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1706[14:43:04] <cybrNaut> "it has nothing to do with Debian" <= exactly what i came here to determine
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1709[14:43:16] <cybrNaut> PPAs make it debian-irrelevant
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1714[14:44:35] <cybrNaut> and also determine if a snap pack "just works" on debian the way it's supposed to... apparently the answer is "no"
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1758[15:00:00] <Neel> hello
1759[15:00:03] <Neel> Unable to reload configuration: Failed to open "/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf": No such file or dire
1760[15:00:07] <Neel> pls help me
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1765[15:02:01] <SirLagz> is there no XFCE panel applet to control Alsa audio levels?
1766[15:02:04] <SirLagz> I can't seem to find one
1767[15:03:33] <Neel> jelly-home: help
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1772[15:06:17] <RoyK> Neel: I guess you'll have to create that file, then
1773[15:06:24] <Neel> RoyK: pls help
1774[15:06:25] <RoyK> ,v at-spi2
1775[15:06:26] <judd> No package named 'at-spi2' was found in amd64.
1776[15:06:34] <RoyK> Neel: I have no idea what at-spi2 is
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1778[15:06:37] <Neel> i dont know how to setup tht
1779[15:06:48] <Neel> :C
1780[15:06:51] <RoyK> !ask
1781[15:06:51] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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1783[15:07:08] <sillyslux> Neel, pinging like you are will only get you kicked
1784[15:07:25] <Neel> i want to get my sound back on my xfce desktop
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1786[15:07:45] <Neel> and on doing journalctl -xb --priority= warning i get tht info
1787[15:07:54] <Neel> replaced-url
1788[15:07:55] <RoyK> Neel: sorry - I have no idea - perhaps someone else knows
1789[15:08:03] <Neel> replaced-url
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1792[15:08:21] <Neel> this two messages show tht pulseaudio is fscked up
1793[15:08:25] <Neel> pls help
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1796[15:09:40] <Neel> cmon
1797[15:09:49] <Neel> i asked in ##linux also
1798[15:09:52] <Neel> :/
1799[15:09:54] <sillyslux> Neel, say: jump!
1800[15:09:59] <Neel> :|
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1802[15:10:02] <RoyK> !patience
1803[15:10:03] <dpkg> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available.
1804[15:10:06] <petn-randall> Neel: Please be patient, and stop spamming the channel.
1805[15:10:09] <petn-randall> Also
1806[15:10:15] <petn-randall> !tell Neel -about crosspost
1807[15:10:36] <Neel> T_T
1808[15:10:46] <Neel> i just need some help setting up tht file
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1811[15:12:07] <fast> I'v created a stretch usb stick as described in the Stretch Installation Guide as described in Chapter 4.3.3. When booting from this usb stick the stick gets detected as sda which then latern on leads to the problem that grub doenst install to the hard disk. When I use a jessie stick (created the same way) the stick gets detected as sdb. What could cause such behaviour?
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1817[15:12:49] <Neel> fast: random dev names are nothing uncommon
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1819[15:14:00] <fast> Right. I forgot to mention i use a preseed file for the installation. So i have to rely on the stick beeing sdb and this worked everytime with jessie.
1820[15:15:07] <Neel> fast: on installing grub during a fresh install, before proceeding to install grub, start a shell and df -h it
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1823[15:15:25] <Neel> theres a option to start a shell
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1825[15:15:49] <Neel> and from the listings find the appropriate name and install grub on it
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1830[15:17:43] <fast> I dont get how this would be helpfull. The disk will be sda on next boot causing a faulty grub config?
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1840[15:21:26] <petn-randall> fast: grub doesn't care about device names, it acts on UUIDs, so if you do the equivalent of "grub-install /dev/sdb" during installation, it should still boot fine.
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1842[15:21:57] <petn-randall> fast: Obviously, your /etc/fstab should also contain only UUIDs, so if you change it during preseed, make sure to not use device names.
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1846[15:23:39] <PrincessZelda> Will Debian get a signed bootloader? iirc it was promised some week before the first official strecth release ..
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1848[15:23:50] <PrincessZelda> * stretch
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1854[15:25:59] <fast> petn-randall: Right, but i would need to know the UUID of the hardrive?
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1856[15:26:38] <celyr> mhhh
1857[15:26:44] <celyr> why nodejs package has not npm ?
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1861[15:29:42] <petn-randall> PrincessZelda: Last I've heard it wasn't part of the hard release goals for stretch. You can probably still do it by hand if your UEFI supports user keys.
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1883[15:37:33] <petn-randall> celyr: TL;DR: Because it's crap.
1884[15:37:39] <petn-randall> !why is npm not in testing
1885[15:37:40] <dpkg> npm is not in testing for the reasons listed in replaced-url
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1889[15:39:56] <RoyK> celyr: just setup a vm with the npm stuff to isolate it from the stable stuff
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1892[15:42:00] <SirLagz> anyone know if there's any way to configure xfce4-volumed ? not sure if I can change the device it controls on the fly or not. There's no man page and google hasn't helped =/
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1895[15:42:35] <celyr> RoyK, it's already a vm
1896[15:42:48] <celyr> that I use for development
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1901[15:44:24] <RoyK> celyr: then install it from source or whatever
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1903[15:45:22] <celyr> i'm planning to do that
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1908[15:46:02] <celyr> think that there should be a meta package that downloads the npm sources and installs them
1909[15:46:08] <celyr> and then removes it if needed
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1911[15:46:40] <RoyK> celyr: it may be an easy way to make a package of it, though
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1953[16:07:30] <Bombo> hi
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1960[16:09:38] <Bombo> how does dpkg decide what locales to install? i did 'dpkg -i audacity-data*deb' but it didn't install /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/audacity.mo i had to extract that manually with -x
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2018[16:36:58] <petn-randall> Bombo: Why are you installing audicity with dpkg?
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2022[16:38:58] <celyr> is Audi city some kind of special place where everyone owns an audi or i'm missing smth
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2024[16:39:31] <petn-randall> *audacity, indeed :)
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2064[16:51:20] <Bombo> petn-randall: because apt didn't install a locale
2065[16:51:47] <Bombo> petn-randall: so i tried with dpkg from apt cache
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2071[16:54:39] <Bombo> petn-randall: can i install the missing locale with apt?
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2078[16:56:11] <gpunk> in a sane system, locale get setup, not installed
2079[16:56:41] <jelly-home> Bombo: dpkg doesn't really care about locales, only apps do
2080[16:56:42] <gpunk> if i understood the problem
2081[16:56:59] <jelly-home> if you got an error trying to install something,
2082[16:57:01] <jelly-home> !bat
2083[16:57:01] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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2099[17:03:48] <petn-randall> Bombo: That makes zero sense. If it's shipped in the .deb, apt will install it. What jelly says.
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2103[17:05:41] <jelly-home> gpunk: honestly debian's way of not installing all the system (glibc) locales only makes sense for tiny embedded machines now. It's a LOT easier to just install locales-all than have to mess with locales package on normal workstations or servers
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2108[17:06:50] <gamera> hi, does anyone know how to create a shortcut to an umounted drive on the gnome desktop
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2112[17:07:43] <gpunk> i'd create a shurtcut to the folder it will be mounted in
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2116[17:08:18] <gamera> I mean so I can quick mount it by clicking it
2117[17:08:35] <gamera> is there a way to do that
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2119[17:08:50] <gpunk> yeah you got to fidle with fstab then
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2121[17:09:01] <gpunk> but usually stuff get mounted automatically
2122[17:09:04] <gamera> where can I find out how much fiddlin'
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2124[17:09:10] <gpunk> depending on your setup
2125[17:09:11] <gamera> not this
2126[17:09:20] <gpunk> man fstab
2127[17:09:23] <gamera> I have to mount it, and it's better, because it spins down when not in use
2128[17:09:49] <gamera> the ssd in this laptop uses enough power and I take this thing around
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2135[17:13:12] <Bombo> jelly-home: well ok, but what else could be the reason for not installing files?
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2137[17:13:24] <Bombo> petn-randall: yes i'm wondering too
2138[17:13:27] <Bombo> $ dpkg -L audacity-data|grep "/LC_MESSAGES/audacity.mo"|wc -l
2139[17:13:28] <Bombo> 54
2140[17:13:37] <Bombo> none installed
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2142[17:14:07] <Bombo> i just removed it with apt-get, then installed it again
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2145[17:15:21] <pentiumone133> I am having an issue with tcpd holding open host.allow and hosts.deny files when connections are made to a mosquitto mqtt broker
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2147[17:15:37] <pentiumone133> i have tried googling to just straight up disable tcpd but cant find any resources
2148[17:16:20] <pentiumone133> syslog is filled with the following error: mosquitto: warning: cannot open /etc/hosts.deny: Too many open files
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2150[17:17:27] <Bombo> $ dpkg --verify audacity-data
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2153[17:17:48] <Bombo> i get ??5?????? /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/audacity.mo for every missing .mo
2154[17:18:01] <Bombo> i wonder what ??5?????? means
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2162[17:19:17] <petn-randall> Bombo: Start with pasting the data from the !bat factoid.
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2196[17:30:14] <abd5932> Hello, for certain configuration computations I need to determine disk space used by the system (excluding users' data which resides in /home/ and /chroots - /home/user is bind mounted to /chroots/user/home/user). What is the best way to determine that disk space? With which command? Thank you!
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2203[17:32:13] <BlessJah> is there single source of truth regarding preseed d-i options available on recent debian versions (jessie and stretch)?
2204[17:32:58] <celyr> abd5932, idk i guess the easies way is to use du and list the dirs you want to include ?
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2206[17:33:07] <celyr> it doesn't look like a long job
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2208[17:33:53] <celyr> you can use also the --exclude flag
2209[17:34:08] <celyr> but I guess it's too hard to read the man and I'm not going to do it for you
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2212[17:34:26] <abd5932> celyr: thank you! that's enough :)
2213[17:34:30] <BlessJah> every piece of documentation I came across seemed to have only subset of those
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2219[17:36:39] <jelly-home> BlessJah: assuming you've looked at docs, #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org) is _the_ place where d-i people hang out
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2225[17:37:31] <BlessJah> jelly-home: could you point which docs are THE docs?
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2229[17:38:14] <BlessJah> debian.org's docs, especially appendix B?
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2234[17:40:51] <jelly-home> hmm
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2237[17:41:30] <BlessJah> (replaced-url
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2250[17:46:43] <jelly-home> I guess install guide _is_ the official d-i docs yeah
2251[17:46:45] <jelly-home> !d-i
2252[17:46:46] <dpkg> Debian 9 "Stretch is now the "stable" Debian release. See replaced-url
2253[17:47:46] <BlessJah> ok, thanks
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2268[17:53:08] <Schwarzbaer> Hi. I'm getting started with JavaScript, and noticed that *apparently* there's no package for npm? I've googled a bit, and when the best thing I found was "Run this install script from npmjs.org", I thought I'd better ask people who know their stuff.
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2271[17:53:46] <petn-randall> Schwarzbaer: npm isn't in Debian due to lack of quality.
2272[17:53:55] <petn-randall> !why is npm not in testing
2273[17:53:55] <dpkg> npm is not in testing for the reasons listed in replaced-url
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2279[17:56:15] <sillyslux> do you get yarn instead?
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2282[17:57:01] <jhutchins> Schwarzbaer: npm is a package management system, it takes you outside of the debian packaging system, installing packages that aren't managed by dpkg/apt.
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2284[17:57:33] <jhutchins> Schwarzbaer: The npm packages have nowhere near the quality control that debian packages have.
2285[17:57:43] <sillyslux> Schwarzbaer, this is what i do: download current from nodejs.org and unpack in /usr/local, and i do that regularly...
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2287[17:58:10] <jhutchins> Schwarzbaer: That said, if you're committed to javascript development or a javascript project as your primary use of the server, go for it.
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2291[17:59:07] <sillyslux> jhutchins, there's npm -i and there's npm -g -i, the former is needed for pretty much everything in node projects
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2299[18:00:52] <jhutchins> There are several projects where it's better to go direct to the upstream source. WordPress, Drupal, other things that just don't percolate through the Debian testing system quickly enough, but do have their own quality control.
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2304[18:01:51] <Schwarzbaer> jhutchins, the same holds true for Python's pip though.
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2310[18:05:13] <sillyslux> Schwarzbaer, there is are at least one "considered good solution" out there namely nvm get more help in #node.js
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2312[18:06:23] <sillyslux> i wouldn't be surprised if it was using the same source though
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2314[18:07:55] <sillyslux> Schwarzbaer, replaced-url
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2316[18:08:24] <sillyslux> builds from source...
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2423[18:49:56] <ngc0202_> hi all, I just switched to gnome and I can't seem to get my lock screen to come up
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2426[18:50:56] <ngc0202`> I've tried the shortcut as both Super+L and Ctrl+Alt+L and neither work
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2429[18:51:12] <ngc0202`> I've also checked the dconf-editor for some relevant settings under lockout
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2431[18:51:26] <Schwarzbaer> Thanks, sillyslux
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2433[18:51:54] <sillyslux> Schwarzbaer, now what did you use?
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2439[18:53:28] <Schwarzbaer> sillyslux, replaced-url
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2441[18:53:48] <sillyslux> Schwarzbaer, also for a development env, i'd really recommend to keep it updated since i believe this is still evolving replaced-url
2442[18:54:00] <ngc0202`> is the middle button in the power menu between Settings and Shutoff supposed to be to lock?
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2452[18:55:06] <sillyslux> oh and lol, curl-sL |sudo -E bash - is a very bad habit
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2456[18:55:50] <sillyslux> i don't think it should be promoted in a place like nodejs.org
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2458[18:56:08] <Schwarzbaer> I know that... "Never run code off the web without reviewing first."
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2460[18:56:50] <Schwarzbaer> Also, now I have an npm. nvm is JS's version of virtualenv, AFAIK?
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2463[18:57:27] <sillyslux> nvm should be a simple bash script
2464[18:57:37] <sillyslux> but i haven't looked at it yet
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2466[18:58:06] <Schwarzbaer> Well, so is virtualenv. I meant that as a description of its functionality.
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2469[18:58:41] <sillyslux> dunno, for help on node.js you should really join ##javascript or #node.js
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2471[18:59:02] <Schwarzbaer> Will do.
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2519[19:21:39] <LtL> ngc0202`: super+l *should* lock, and yes the middle icon on the upper right corner icon dropdown menu has a padlock icon in the middle bottom, it should lock either way.
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2607[19:57:17] <xbow> lo
2608[19:57:33] <xbow> anyone got amdgpu-pro working on stretch?
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2611[19:58:48] <xbow> replaced-url
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2613[19:59:15] <xbow> ^this one
2614[19:59:28] <towo`> xbow, you see debian as supported os anywhere there?
2615[19:59:50] <xbow> towo`: no
2616[19:59:50] <towo`> and what makes you think, you need amdgpu-pro?
2617[20:00:17] <xbow> towo`: well i needed it and i got it working
2618[20:00:30] <xbow> just my two cents
2619[20:00:36] <annadane> xbow, installing outside the debian repositories is generally a bad idea
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2622[20:01:10] <xbow> annadane: thx for the reminder
2623[20:01:12] <xbow> =)
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2625[20:01:31] * xbow is just annoyed (again) by amd/ati
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2628[20:02:07] <towo`> the easyest why installing amdgpu-pro is using the steamos repo, not supported by debian, but works
2629[20:02:18] <towo`> s/why/way
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2633[20:02:53] <xbow> no worries..just wanted to provide if someone is interessted
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2637[20:05:31] <xbow> and of note got it working with HDMI soudn
2638[20:05:34] <xbow> sound even
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2640[20:06:20] <xbow> seemed to be a major issue with the amd drivers
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2653[20:11:20] <jhutchins> xbow: Write it up on a blog or wiki somewhere?
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2655[20:11:45] <xbow> jhutchins: should do that yep
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2657[20:12:17] <xbow> brb
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2670[20:15:43] <xbow> re
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2673[20:15:52] <xbow> busy chan here
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2682[20:18:16] <noahmg123> How can I view the event/input log?
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2686[20:18:36] <xbow> noahmg123: dmesg -T ?
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2691[20:20:10] <noahmg123> xbow: I actually think I just found it. It's xinput, I think.
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2693[20:20:37] <xbow> noahmg123: ic, great
2694[20:20:57] <xbow> noahmg123: depends what kind of log you're searching for
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2701[20:21:58] <noahmg123> xbow: /sys/class/input/inputX
2702[20:22:20] <noahmg123> xbow: the one I want isn't showing up in xinput :p
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2704[20:22:37] <xbow> hmmm
2705[20:22:56] <teraflops> noahmg123: I still dont get what you want
2706[20:23:15] <xbow> noahmg123: what device do you want?
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2709[20:24:27] <noahmg123> I have a two-in-one laptop. The lid switch is an actual input. I want to see the log. I would use xinput test, but it's not on xinput. But I know it recognizes it as a "device".
2710[20:25:11] <xbow> noahmg123: first try to identify the device with "lspci" or "lsusb"
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2715[20:27:38] <noahmg123> xbow: it doesn't show up in those, but /sys/class/input/input1/name says "Lid Switch" and my keyboard is disabled when the lid moves past 180 degrees. So it's obviously a trigger somewhere.
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2717[20:28:04] <xbow> noahmg123: ok ic
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2721[20:28:45] <xbow> noahmg123: you want to change the behaviour of the lid switch then?
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2725[20:29:22] <noahmg123> xbow: I want to extend it. It disables the keyboard, but not the touchpad
2726[20:29:41] <xbow> hmmm
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2742[20:37:19] <noahmg123> xbow: any ideas?
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2745[20:38:59] <xbow> noahmg123: acpi issue would dig into that but tbh i don't know for sure
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2747[20:39:30] <noahmg123> xbow: acpi issue?
2748[20:39:56] <xbow> noahmg123: the lid is acpi related..search for that
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2751[20:40:33] <noahmg123> xbow: search for it where?
2752[20:40:40] <xbow> noahmg123: in general you can manage such things with the power options but in your case it's special
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2755[20:41:08] <noahmg123> xbow: yeah. I get it, sorta.
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2759[20:41:31] <xbow> noahmg123: kk
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2765[20:42:52] <noahmg123> xbow: thinking now, it may not be the Lid Switch but idk what it'd be then. It also recognizes my gyroscope which is weird because a previous install of Debian didn't.
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2769[20:43:45] <xbow> noahmg123: kk
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2781[20:47:20] <noahmg123> xbow: it's actually was in xinput. It's under one device called WMI hotkeys.
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2783[20:47:40] <xbow> noahmg123: nice dude
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2799[20:50:56] <noahmg123> Thanks
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2820[20:57:27] <orb> I'll forget I'm on here for years at a time.
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2965[21:42:11] <inSync_> 1so what happened with debian, just installed a clean system and boom
2966[21:42:15] <inSync_> no netstat
2967[21:42:26] <inSync_> ssh acts funny
2968[21:42:33] <petemc> ss replaced netstat
2969[21:42:39] <inSync_> are these new 'features'
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2971[21:42:51] <inSync_> petemc: ss? will check it out thanks
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2974[21:43:22] <petemc> how does ssh act funny?
2975[21:43:33] <inSync_> what about openssh, what happened, i always configure ssh key auth, but this time it does not work
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2981[21:43:59] <inSync_> i even uncommented a couple of lines in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
2982[21:44:17] <petemc> you dont need to for keys to work
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2985[21:44:37] <petemc> !debug sshd
2986[21:44:37] <dpkg> To debug sshd (server), run this as root on the server: "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222". Then use "ssh -p 2222 username@servername" on the client. See also <slow ssh connect>, <ssh permissions>.
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2990[21:45:13] <inSync_> but it's a clean install
2991[21:45:23] <petemc> so?
2992[21:45:57] <inSync_> openssh used to work with key auth out of the box
2993[21:46:04] <petemc> there is potential to incorrectly set up ssh keys
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2996[21:46:33] <inSync_> i usually edit /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys
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2999[21:46:51] <inSync_> and add a line with the public key
3000[21:46:56] <inSync_> done that for years
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3002[21:47:16] <inSync_> but not this time
3003[21:47:20] <inSync_> lol
3004[21:47:23] <petemc> works for me
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3012[21:48:52] <inSync_> in fact, usually i disable password authentication
3013[21:49:22] <inSync_> i just installed a fresh system just to doublecheck
3014[21:49:32] <inSync_> but the behaviour is the same
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3016[21:49:41] <petemc> see above for help with debugging
3017[21:50:18] <inSync_> the machine is behind NAT, so i only have access to the specific port that is forwarded
3018[21:50:32] <inSync_> can't connect to other ports
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3021[21:50:52] <petemc> so stop ssh
3022[21:51:07] <petemc> and run the above on available port
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3029[21:52:09] <inSync_> how can i stop ssh if i'm there by ssh...?
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3031[21:53:07] <nkuttler> inSync_: why do you want to stop it?
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3033[21:53:27] <nkuttler> eh..
3034[21:53:27] <inSync_> nkuttler: petemc was sugesting it
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3040[21:56:07] <inSync_> ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
3041[21:56:13] <inSync_> is this necessary?
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3045[21:59:03] <inSync_> in sshd_config
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3055[22:01:14] <inSync_> got the problem
3056[22:01:20] <inSync_> a dawmn typo
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3058[22:01:39] <inSync_> in the authorized keys file
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3061[22:02:20] <inSync_> it started with sh-rsa instead of ssh-rsa
3062[22:02:37] <inSync_> thanks petemc nkuttler
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3120[22:22:39] <awwal> ffmpeg is default yet , eh?
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3128[22:24:17] <teraflops> what do you mean by default?
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3130[22:24:25] <teraflops> iirc both are in the repos
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3132[22:25:18] <teraflops> if you want ffmpeg you type ffmpeg, if you want libav you type avconv
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3138[22:27:05] <awwal> well, I was refering to this replaced-url
3139[22:27:23] <awwal> nvm; I havent found that link before asking :P
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3142[22:27:51] <teraflops> 2015 ^
3143[22:28:11] <awwal> #729203
3144[22:28:13] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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3209[22:49:47] <easytoremember> Hi all. I am trying to modify Android to block extraction of APKs by other APPs. I was wondering if someone here could check my question out and offer some input. I'd really appreciate it. Thank you. replaced-url
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3260[23:06:46] <illiquld> replaced-url
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