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          25 [00:09:09] <syshape> When I try to paste using the mouse with
            'sudo vim' or 'sudoedit', I can only paste some
            content that I did copy in the same instance of vim, not from other
            windows. Besides I can't paste normally with 'sudo
            nano' for example. Do you know what to do ?
           
         
        
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          33 [00:12:22] <n4dir> copy from vim to vim ? why use the mouse
            for that? from other windows: did you try :insert ?
           
         
        
          34 [00:12:47] <n4dir> seems to be a different problem anyway, as
            you say the problem exists for nano too
           
         
        
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          45 [00:22:30] <astronavt> syshape: you're in X?
           
         
        
          46 [00:22:38] <astronavt> the + register is the system clipboard
           
         
        
          47 [00:23:10] <astronavt> "<register>p or
            "<register>y are paste and copy _from a register_
           
         
        
          48 [00:23:12] <astronavt> so "+p  
         
        
          49 [00:23:16] <astronavt> to paste from the system clipboard
           
         
        
          50 [00:23:24] <astronavt> there's also the * register,
            "*p
           
         
        
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          53 [00:25:03] <astronavt> yeah. "+ is the x11 clipboard,
            "* is the x11 primary selection
           
         
        
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          145 [01:17:24] <Th3Z0h4n> Hey gents, It appears that my grub
            setup can't load my second partition's kernels. Correctly
            auto detected values in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, "file not
            found" at boot time. Rings any bells? Any suggestions -
            pointers? Thanks in advance.
           
         
        
          146 [01:17:48] <Th3Z0h4n> both partitions ext4
           
         
        
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          153 [01:22:37] <fssdd> hi  
         
        
          154 [01:22:57] <fssdd> is xen working on debian? my computer
            doesn't boot with it. maybe i need to change something in the
            bios?
           
         
        
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          180 [01:37:26] <RoyK> fssdd: iirc xen works, but why? kvm is
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          187 [01:42:03] <fssdd> ok never worked with kvm, but i'll
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          189 [01:42:28] <fssdd> maybe i get around fixing xen this way
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          216 [01:50:06] <Arahael> I have an interface, with details taken
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            figure out how to do so.
           
         
        
          217 [01:50:25] <Arahael> The ip route add command requires a
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          229 [01:56:01] <RoyK> Arahael: ip addr add route # etc
           
         
        
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          231 [01:56:40] <RoyK> Arahael: you need to set the netmask to
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          241 [02:01:31] <Arahael> RoyK: Turns out that just adding the
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          243 [02:03:41] <RoyK> Arahael: the address is the one that has
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          244 [02:04:17] <RoyK> ip a add 10.1.2.3/8 dev blabla
           
         
        
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          247 [02:04:33] <Arahael> Yep... That's the addr, I
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          249 [02:05:00] <RoyK> ip a == ip addr  
         
        
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          251 [02:05:15] <RoyK> the ip command takes a lot of shortcuts
           
         
        
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          255 [02:06:05] <Arahael> Yep, but did you mean "route",
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          257 [02:06:23] <RoyK> ip r l  
         
        
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          280 [02:17:41] <awal1> what happens with main debian channel on
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          281 [02:18:07] <awal1> just registred/identified users?
           
         
        
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          283 [02:18:20] <awal1> -R mode or what?  
         
        
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          286 [02:19:42] <LtL> awal1: just registered and identified is all
           
         
        
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          288 [02:20:22] <LtL> awal1: if i understand you correctly that is
           
         
        
          289 [02:20:41] <awal1> well, I use always this nickname but not
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          292 [02:21:10] <awal1> #debian :Cannot join channel (Need to be
            identified and verified to join this channel, '/msg NickServ
            help' to learn how to register and verify.)
           
         
        
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          296 [02:22:17] <LtL> awal1: you don't need a cloak, just
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          299 [02:22:56] <awal1> Ltl, I may register later, yeah
           
         
        
          300 [02:23:55] <LtL> awal1: you can add a second nickname to your
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          301 [02:24:04] <Sveta> yes  
         
        
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          320 [02:32:59] <awal1> it was a temporal technical issue
           
         
        
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          329 [02:45:28] <binary106> hi guys i'm building a CI/CD
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          330 [02:46:01] <binary106> transparently* de-dupe
           
         
        
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          407 [03:31:37] <CW_Texashack> Hello!  
         
        
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          409 [03:32:30] <CW_Texashack> How are you?
           
         
        
          410 [03:33:38] <Sveta> hi CW_Texashack :-)
           
         
        
          411 [03:34:04] <CW_Texashack> So, what distro are you on?
           
         
        
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          414 [03:35:34] <LtL> CW_Texashack: we like to direct casual chat
            to #debian-offtopic this channel is for debian support sorry.
           
         
        
          415 [03:35:58] <awal1> anyone uses adwaita theme and some gtk2
            based app?
           
         
        
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          421 [03:36:47] <awal1> say hexchat  
         
        
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          423 [03:37:02] <LtL> awal1: yes i do  
         
        
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          425 [03:37:40] <LtL> awal1: adwaita dark  
         
        
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          427 [03:38:07] <awal1> Ltl, if you write in hexchat text bar
            something like 123 and you try to place the mouse cursor bar (|)
            between 2 and 3 what happens?
           
         
        
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          429 [03:38:28] <awal1> it gets placed after 3 or 2 and 1?
           
         
        
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          431 [03:38:39] <awal1> it gets placed after 3 or between 2 and 1?
           
         
        
          432 [03:38:39] <LtL> awal1: let me check  
         
        
          433 [03:40:07] <LtL> awal1: i can put it in between 1 and 2 and 2
            and 3
           
         
        
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          435 [03:40:35] <awal1> Ltl, can you try with letters?
           
         
        
          436 [03:40:39] <awal1> say abcd  
         
        
          437 [03:40:50] <awal1> LtL  
         
        
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          440 [03:41:47] <LtL> awal1: i can put it anywhere, but i need to
            click one character to the left
           
         
        
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          443 [03:42:55] <awal1> LtL, you mean if you want to place |
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          445 [03:43:50] <LtL> awal1: yes before 2 to get it between 2 and
            three, same with alpha chars
           
         
        
          446 [03:44:22] <awal1> LTL, that is the problem I wanted to
            confirm
           
         
        
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          448 [03:44:24] <awal1> thanks  
         
        
          449 [03:44:35] <LtL> awal1: welcome  
         
        
          450 [03:44:56] <awal1> It is a bug somewhere, maybe in adwaita
            pkg, since stretch development
           
         
        
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          453 [03:45:39] <awal1> LtL, so I'm not the only one affected
            by that bug, thanks for confirming
           
         
        
          454 [03:45:53] <LtL> awal1: no problem  
         
        
          455 [03:45:55] <awal1> maybe some one can help debugging this
            weird issue
           
         
        
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          457 [03:46:27] <awal1> because it happens with all gtk2 based
            apps I tried (pcmanfm and so)
           
         
        
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          459 [03:46:47] <awal1> LtL, do you have any idea ?
           
         
        
          460 [03:47:01] <LtL> awal1: it is odd, i never noticed this
            before. adwaita dark has a couple glitches. no i have no idea why
           
         
        
          461 [03:47:08] <awal1> I want to report a bug but no clue about
            how to debug such stuff
           
         
        
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          465 [03:47:43] <awal1> it only happens with adwaita (standard or
            dark)themes
           
         
        
          466 [03:48:31] <awal1> it doesn't happen with mate-themes,
            arc themes or any other gtk2/3 theme
           
         
        
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          468 [03:49:26] <awal1> I use "blue menta" theme and all
            fine
           
         
        
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          471 [03:54:12] <awal1> LtL, you may want to try arc themes (it
            have bright, dar and darker variants), much better than adwaita
           
         
        
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          473 [03:54:25] <awal1> dark^  
         
        
          474 [03:54:54] <LtL> awal1: thank you, i will give that a try
           
         
        
          475 [03:55:07] <awal1> np  
         
        
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          485 [04:01:45] <LtL> awal1: arc-dark is nice, thanks :)
           
         
        
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          489 [04:04:41] <awal1> LtL, you welcome :)
           
         
        
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          503 [04:11:04] <QwertyChouskie> SuperTuxKart just had a new
            release but still needs to be updated in Debian:
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          504 [04:11:05] <QwertyChouskie>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          515 [04:17:51] <Some1NamedNate> i update the db's very often
           
         
        
          516 [04:18:10] <Some1NamedNate> for some reason there
            haven't been pkg updates very often
           
         
        
          517 [04:18:24] <Some1NamedNate> i expect update whenever i update
            the db's
           
         
        
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          520 [04:19:31] <Some1NamedNate> updates*  
         
        
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          525 [04:21:22] <QwertyChouskie> thanks  
         
        
          526 [04:21:39] <Some1NamedNate> for...?  
         
        
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          529 [04:22:35] <QwertyChouskie> the answer? or was that for a
            different question?
           
         
        
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          531 [04:23:06] <Some1NamedNate> are you referring to what i said?
           
         
        
          532 [04:23:23] <QwertyChouskie> yes?  
         
        
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          534 [04:24:05] <Some1NamedNate> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
           
         
        
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          537 [04:25:04] <QwertyChouskie> I just saw "update" and
            "soon", and since my question was about an updated, I
            assumed it was an answer ;)
           
         
        
          538 [04:25:12] <QwertyChouskie> *an update
           
         
        
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          541 [04:25:26] <Some1NamedNate> did you get the same problem?
           
         
        
          542 [04:25:54] <Some1NamedNate> cause again sometimes i expect
            udpates whenever i update the db's
           
         
        
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          547 [04:27:54] <awal1> arc dark theme works almost perfectly with
            all apps except chromium :P
           
         
        
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          593 [04:56:11] <Lyberta> how can I add ~/.local/bin to PATH so it
            works with any shell? for some reason shell started by CodeLite
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          594 [04:56:30] <Lyberta> i.e. it doesn't find them
           
         
        
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          766 [07:03:30] <darxmurf> morning  
         
        
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          770 [07:06:32] <awal1> i usually use sans or deja vu variants
           
         
        
          771 [07:06:36] <SwedeMike> awal1: I use Menlo Regular.
           
         
        
          772 [07:06:57] <awal1> SwedeMike, never heard about it
           
         
        
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          774 [07:07:36] <SwedeMike> awal1:
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          795 [07:24:49] <nix64bit> how do i add my custom bin directory to
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          796 [07:25:25] <nix64bit> and what if I have 2 firefox binaries?
           
         
        
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          857 [08:10:45] <ivh> Input from neither my bluetooth or
            usb-keyboard comes through suddenly, although though both are
            connected and recognized. What can be the reason for this?
           
         
        
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          880 [08:35:44] <ivh> ... a reboot fixed it. Feels like tales
            people tell from that other OS.
           
         
        
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          888 [08:42:24] <Sepultura> Hallo  
         
        
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          896 [08:45:19] <Sepultura> can you make group directories? A Home
            Directory for a group of users?
           
         
        
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          916 [08:55:56] <matt_keys> Hello, I'm able to reproduce
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          919 [08:56:32] <matt_keys> kern 4.9.30-2+deb9u5, qemu Version:
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          927 [08:58:58] <somiaj> matt_keys: Have you checked the debian
            bts for the bug as well. I also notice that it seems to be a very
            specifc issue, and stretch is frozen so it may not be something
            debian will fix in stretch.
           
         
        
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          934 [09:02:30] <matt_keys> somiaj: I didn't see it there.
            I'm going to add debian as a distro to this one, then make a
            comment at the bottom.
           
         
        
          935 [09:03:39] <somiaj> I would see if affects the version in
            buster/sid. The end of the report said it was fixed in some cases by
            a newer version.
           
         
        
          936 [09:03:50] <somiaj> and if it does affect buster/sid, report
            the bug to debian as well.
           
         
        
          937 [09:04:11] <somiaj> but to me it dosen't appear that it
            would be something that would be fixed in debian.
           
         
        
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          944 [09:05:13] <somiaj> sorry I mean fixed in stretch
           
         
        
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          954 [09:13:43] <syshape> When I try to paste using the mouse with
            'sudo vim' or 'sudoedit', I can only paste some
            content that I did copy in the same instance of vim, not from other
            windows. Besides
           
         
        
          955 [09:13:51] <syshape> I can't paste normally with
            'sudo nano' for example. Do you know what to do ?
           
         
        
          956 [09:14:07] <syshape> I mean I can paste normally with
            'sudo nano'
           
         
        
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          963 [09:17:02] <syshape> And it's the same with "*p and
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          997 [09:34:58] <pagios> good morning everyone, i am facing a
            problem installing this package, where can i get more log info about
            it and fix it?
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1002 [09:35:56] <babilen> pagios: My guess would be "From
            kaltura who provided that broken package"
           
         
        
          1003 [09:36:14] <pagios> babilen, how to fix?
           
         
        
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          1006 [09:37:25] <babilen> You could look into the post install
            maintainer script and figure out what *they* did wrong. Should be in
            /var/lib/dpkg/info
           
         
        
          1007 [09:37:44] <babilen> But then .. this really isn't a
            Debian problem, but you deciding to install randomg (broken)
            packages from third parties
           
         
        
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          1010 [09:38:58] <babilen> Once you've fixed that error, run
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          1018 [09:43:19] <pagios> babilen, i dont see any error in
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          1023 [09:48:25] <babilen> pagios: There obviously is one
           
         
        
          1024 [09:48:35] <babilen> (even if it's not
            logging/echo'ing anything)
           
         
        
          1025 [09:48:39] <pagios> can i install that dwh solely?
           
         
        
          1026 [09:48:46] <babilen> dwh?  
         
        
          1027 [09:48:51] <babilen> I have no idea  
         
        
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          1030 [09:49:03] <babilen> Those packages aren't in Debian
           
         
        
          1031 [09:49:24] <xormor> can I get Debian to work in an ARM PC?
           
         
        
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          1037 [09:50:34] <xormor>
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          1038 [09:51:12] <babilen> dpkg: armel  
         
        
          1039 [09:51:12] <dpkg> armel is the Debian <ARM> EABI port,
            first released with Debian 5.0 "Lenny".
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          1041 [09:52:13] <babilen> xormor: Both are release architectures
            .. so, you should be able to install it, yes
           
         
        
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          1049 [09:55:53] <pagios> babilen, how would you tackle this
            problem?
           
         
        
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          1054 [09:58:31] <babilen> I already told you. Read the maintainer
            scripts that come with the broken package, fix them, run configure
           
         
        
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          1081 [10:10:10] <pagios> babilen, you mean the maintainer scripts
            inside the .deb file?
           
         
        
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          1083 [10:10:42] <pagios> inside kaltura-dwh.list ?
           
         
        
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          1088 [10:13:02] <babilen> pagios: As said: You'd find them in
            /var/lib/dpkg/info/kaltura*
           
         
        
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          1090 [10:13:44] <pagios> babilen,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1094 [10:15:12] <babilen> pagios: Looks like a good candidate,
            yeah
           
         
        
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          1100 [10:17:59] <babilen> You could just add "exit 0" in
            the second line and run "dpkg -a --configure" to make it
            "install", but then all the things that might need to get
            done will not be performed and the software might not work as
            expected
           
         
        
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          1102 [10:18:19] <babilen> For it to work you'd have to figure
            out what's wrong and fix it
           
         
        
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          1130 [10:26:09] <dexta> gm  
         
        
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          1154 [10:38:58] <pagios> babilen, seems hard
           
         
        
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          1159 [10:43:25] <hammer065> I have a question about a package
           
         
        
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          1161 [10:44:28] <hammer065> which core functionality is heavily
            affected by changes in the Debian build
           
         
        
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          1163 [10:45:11] <petn-randall> hammer065: Ask; if someone knows
            the answer they'll respond.
           
         
        
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          1167 [10:47:12] <hammer065> tl;dr: The time of sl is so heavily
            modified from upstream, its loosing its benefit completely
           
         
        
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          1170 [10:47:42] <hammer065> Regardless that it isn't even
            installed in a standard directory
           
         
        
          1171 [10:47:49] <jelly-home> hammer065: sl?
           
         
        
          1172 [10:47:56] <hammer065> Correct  
         
        
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          1174 [10:48:03] <jelly-home> the ascii art choo choo?
           
         
        
          1175 [10:48:09] <hammer065> Correct  
         
        
          1176 [10:48:12] <jelly-home> nod  
         
        
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          1178 [10:48:46] <hammer065> On Debian, its sped up so heavily that
            it looses its benefit
           
         
        
          1179 [10:49:08] <jelly-home> best file a bug report
           
         
        
          1180 [10:49:19] <mrig> Hello, Do the 3 DVD ISO images that are
            offered for download on the debian website correspond to the first 3
            hash values shown in the listings; There are more DVD's there
            than are available from the site?
           
         
        
          1181 [10:49:23] <jelly-home> !reportbug  
         
        
          1182 [10:49:23] <dpkg> reportbug is used to submit bugs to the
            Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. See
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1185 [10:50:32] <hammer065> Is there a way to report a bug _not_
            using Debian?
           
         
        
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          1187 [10:50:46] <hammer065> Or a Debian-oid system?
           
         
        
          1188 [10:51:05] <tarzeau_> hammer065: any system which can send
            mail
           
         
        
          1189 [10:51:13] <hammer065> Perfect  
         
        
          1190 [10:51:14] <petn-randall> hammer065: If you're not
            running Debian, you shouldn't report bugs to Debian, but your
            distro.
           
         
        
          1191 [10:51:22] <mrig> Ah yes, I have just checked the sum against
            the ISO, I have been trying to check against my created USB drive;
            Having a little difficulty.
           
         
        
          1192 [10:51:44] <tarzeau_> petn-randall: he probably does run
            debian, but not on the one he wants to report the bug from. not all
            debian systems are internet connected
           
         
        
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          1194 [10:52:05] <jelly-home> hammer065: it's basically a mail
            message. Best confirm the bug really exists in Debian as well, tho
           
         
        
          1195 [10:52:24] <hammer065> I am, proudly, not running Debian,
            however my company is uses it on a machine I need to use once a week
           
         
        
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          1198 [10:53:01] <jelly-home> hammer065: you can run reportbug on
            that machine, let it generate the mail message, and send it from
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          1199 [10:53:13] <hammer065> Okay  
         
        
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          1201 [10:53:15] <hammer065> Thanks  
         
        
          1202 [10:53:32] <jelly-home> what you run on other machines is not
            really relevant, as long as they can send a plaintext mail
           
         
        
          1203 [10:53:59] <hammer065> Is there any way to look into the
            source which is getting used in Debian builds of applications?
           
         
        
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          1205 [10:54:29] <tarzeau_> hammer065:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1214 [10:59:01] <jelly-home> clearly this important loss of
            functionality should be remedied post-haste
           
         
        
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          1219 [11:00:45] <hammer065> Exactly  
         
        
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          1223 [11:01:31] <Lyberta> how come /bin/sh spawned from GUI
            process doesn't read ~/.profile?
           
         
        
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          1228 [11:02:59] <jelly> hammer065: fwiw the choo choo is not too
            fast on my debian 9
           
         
        
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          1230 [11:03:25] <jelly> sl 0.03s user 0.00s system 0% cpu 5.505
            total
           
         
        
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          1234 [11:05:04] <rudi_s> Lyberta: Because only login shells read
            ~/.profile
           
         
        
          1235 [11:05:36] <Lyberta> rudi_s, how can I make read profile? or
            how to inject a changed PATH into it?
           
         
        
          1236 [11:06:15] <rudi_s> Lyberta: You can't. But you can
            export your PATH in your ~/.xsessionrc which is loaded when your X
            starts.
           
         
        
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          1238 [11:06:24] <Lyberta> hmm  
         
        
          1239 [11:06:27] <Lyberta> gonna try  
         
        
          1240 [11:06:52] <rudi_s> (You have to logout/login to apply those
            changes.)
           
         
        
          1241 [11:07:20] <Lyberta> yeah, I understand, I messed with
            .xsessionrc in the past, it sets my mouse sensitivity
           
         
        
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          1253 [11:13:07] <Lyberta> rudi_s, yes, that worked, thanks
           
         
        
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          1284 [11:24:37] <rudi_s> np  
         
        
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          1359 [12:09:54] <Janni> Hello.  
         
        
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          1363 [12:11:25] <Janni> I'm looking for a grub
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            installations to chainload and presents them in a menu. Does anyone
            know where I could get such an image?
           
         
        
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          1437 [12:49:41] <dff> is there a way to preconfigure wifi settings
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          1441 [12:50:19] <doublehp> what is "pip" (related with
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          1443 [12:51:03] <petn-randall> doublehp: python package installer
           
         
        
          1444 [12:51:18] <doublehp> petn-randall: how do i install it ?
           
         
        
          1445 [12:51:26] <petn-randall> doublehp: look at 'man
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          1446 [12:51:40] <doublehp> ok, thanks  
         
        
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          1448 [12:52:18] <petn-randall> yw  
         
        
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          1472 [13:06:18] <mac-> hey, I have added user to additional group
            (it is not his primaty group) but now after he relogin with ssh he
            can't see this new group when do id or groups
           
         
        
          1473 [13:06:21] <mac-> ControlMaster is not set in ssh_config
           
         
        
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          1475 [13:08:37] <brainacid> Anyone using i386?
           
         
        
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          1478 [13:09:02] <SwedeMike> brainacid: yes.
           
         
        
          1479 [13:09:06] <brainacid> Im running antiX 17 (Debian 9
            non-systemd) on a old P4 and runs well
           
         
        
          1480 [13:09:14] <brainacid> Firefox runs good lol
           
         
        
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          1483 [13:09:56] <brainacid> its interesting that a lot of
            contributors are from Europe... like linux was invented in Finland
           
         
        
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          1528 [13:30:34] <Neel> guys can anyone help me set up sound in
            xfce?
           
         
        
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          1530 [13:30:46] <Neel> its a new install and i cant get the sound
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          1545 [13:39:01] <duser> I install s3fs and mount s3 with command
            s3fs <mybucket> /mnt/<mount-point> -o
            /home/<user>/.passwd-s3fs -f But I get error 's3fs:
            specified passwd_file is not readable.'
           
         
        
          1546 [13:39:18] <duser> I am sure the passwd file mode is 600.
            What goes wrong?
           
         
        
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          1577 [14:00:04] <josecapurro> \QUIT  
         
        
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          1608 [14:14:19] <filePeter> Hey guys, I have my swap drive
            encrypted with a random password and just ugraded to stretch.
            /etc/cryptab and /etc/fstab have been left unchanged. Unfortunately
            during boot time I get the error: “Faild to find logical
            volume "laptop_vg/swap_crypt", WARNING: Failed to connect
            to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning.” I suspect that
            the swap drive has not been brought up by cryptsetup. -
           
         
        
          1609 [14:14:25] <filePeter> Ironically my similarly configured
            /tmp/ gets up perfectly.
           
         
        
          1610 [14:14:27] <filePeter> Do you guys have an idea?
           
         
        
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          1617 [14:16:26] <indistylo> for installing some utility I have to
            install golang, I followed this link given to install golang
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1645 [14:26:51] <cybrNaut> do PPAs work on debian? I seem to
            recall that they don't
           
         
        
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          1647 [14:27:36] <cybrNaut> the installation for anbox (from
            anbox.io) involves a "snap" package, which seems to make
            use of a PPA
           
         
        
          1648 [14:27:47] <FinalX> PPA scripts are nothing more than adding
            the key and repositories, but a PPA can only have Ubuntu release
            packages, not Debian.
           
         
        
          1649 [14:28:27] <FinalX> (official Ubuntu repositories only accept
            packages for releases of themselves iirc)
           
         
        
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          1651 [14:28:44] <FinalX> but PPA is an Ubuntu-invention, so
            you're probably asking on the wrong channel :p
           
         
        
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          1657 [14:30:54] <jelly> cybrNaut: automated PPA builds only build
            for ubuntu releases; if a package works for debian it's
            accidental
           
         
        
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          1662 [14:33:53] <cybrNaut> so to be clear, will this install fail?
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1664 [14:34:13] <cybrNaut> notice that in the screencast there is
            a PPA involved
           
         
        
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          1666 [14:34:31] <cybrNaut> had i not seen that screencast, i would
            have ran that "snap" command
           
         
        
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          1668 [14:35:12] <jelly> most likely  
         
        
          1669 [14:35:12] <FinalX> ...who knows? we're not the authors
            of the software and it says it runs on any GNU/LInux. the URL you
            give is for the entire site, btw. It doesn't mention PPA at
            all, but indeed only snap.
           
         
        
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          1671 [14:36:05] <FinalX> lxc :: ~ » docker run -it
            debian:stretch bash -i
           
         
        
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          1673 [14:36:07] <FinalX> let's find out :p
           
         
        
          1674 [14:36:38] <FinalX> cybrNaut:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1675 [14:36:39] <cybrNaut> it's a bit astonishing, b/c it
            seems to defeat the purpose of a snap
           
         
        
          1676 [14:36:53] <cybrNaut> maybe i'm misunderstanding snaps..
            never installed a snap pack
           
         
        
          1677 [14:36:54] <FinalX> snap is not ubuntu-specific and
            doesn't mention the use of PPA's anywhere
           
         
        
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          1679 [14:37:10] <FinalX> "On Debian snapd is available as
            part of the testing (currently ‘stretch’) and unstable
            (‘sid’) versions. It is currently not available in any
            stable version but will be soon."
           
         
        
          1680 [14:37:18] <cybrNaut> FinalX: the problem is not snap itself
            (i already installed that from official debian repos)
           
         
        
          1681 [14:37:40] <cybrNaut> the problem i'm anticipating is
            with the snap pack for anbox
           
         
        
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          1685 [14:38:12] <cybrNaut> FinalX: that's an old comment..
            stable is stretch now, and it's available now
           
         
        
          1686 [14:38:15] <FinalX> then why not just give it a go? it says
            it works with anything that has snap
           
         
        
          1687 [14:38:43] <FinalX> it's the official Snap website that
            states that, it'll need updating, but I merely meant that
            it's available in stretch.
           
         
        
          1688 [14:38:58] <FinalX> did you do any kind of researching
            yourself at all? did you even give it a go?
           
         
        
          1689 [14:39:05] <FinalX> why start about PPA's if you
            haven't even tried?
           
         
        
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          1691 [14:39:16] <cybrNaut> i just found this
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1695 [14:41:02] <cybrNaut> FinalX: first you say "just run
            it" then you say "do some research first"
           
         
        
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          1697 [14:41:15] <cybrNaut> research is what i'm doing..
            that's why i'm here
           
         
        
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          1702 [14:42:11] <FinalX> "research" meaning _read the
            website_ of the software you're trying to install. read what
            software you need and what the caveats are. if you have a problem
            with Debian, we can help you. you don't even know if you have a
            problem, and we are not the authors of the software nor authors of
            Snap.
           
         
        
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          1704 [14:42:32] <FinalX> this is #debian, not #anbox or #snap.. it
            has nothing to do with Debian..
           
         
        
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          1706 [14:43:04] <cybrNaut> "it has nothing to do with
            Debian" <= exactly what i came here to determine
           
         
        
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          1709 [14:43:16] <cybrNaut> PPAs make it debian-irrelevant
           
         
        
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          1714 [14:44:35] <cybrNaut> and also determine if a snap pack
            "just works" on debian the way it's supposed to...
            apparently the answer is "no"
           
         
        
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          1758 [15:00:00] <Neel> hello  
         
        
          1759 [15:00:03] <Neel> Unable to reload configuration: Failed to
            open "/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf": No such file or
            dire
           
         
        
          1760 [15:00:07] <Neel> pls help me  
         
        
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          1765 [15:02:01] <SirLagz> is there no XFCE panel applet to control
            Alsa audio levels?
           
         
        
          1766 [15:02:04] <SirLagz> I can't seem to find one
           
         
        
          1767 [15:03:33] <Neel> jelly-home: help  
         
        
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          1772 [15:06:17] <RoyK> Neel: I guess you'll have to create
            that file, then
           
         
        
          1773 [15:06:24] <Neel> RoyK: pls help  
         
        
          1774 [15:06:25] <RoyK> ,v at-spi2  
         
        
          1775 [15:06:26] <judd> No package named 'at-spi2' was
            found in amd64.
           
         
        
          1776 [15:06:34] <RoyK> Neel: I have no idea what at-spi2 is
           
         
        
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          1778 [15:06:37] <Neel> i dont know how to setup tht
           
         
        
          1779 [15:06:48] <Neel> :C  
         
        
          1780 [15:06:51] <RoyK> !ask  
         
        
          1781 [15:06:51] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
            example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
            version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
            expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
            anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
            volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
            an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
            See <smart questions><errors>.
           
         
        
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          1783 [15:07:08] <sillyslux> Neel, pinging like you are will only
            get you kicked
           
         
        
          1784 [15:07:25] <Neel> i want to get my sound back on my xfce
            desktop
           
         
        
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          1786 [15:07:45] <Neel> and on doing journalctl -xb --priority=
            warning i get tht info
           
         
        
          1787 [15:07:54] <Neel>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1788 [15:07:55] <RoyK> Neel: sorry - I have no idea - perhaps
            someone else knows
           
         
        
          1789 [15:08:03] <Neel>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1792 [15:08:21] <Neel> this two messages show tht pulseaudio is
            fscked up
           
         
        
          1793 [15:08:25] <Neel> pls help  
         
        
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          1796 [15:09:40] <Neel> cmon  
         
        
          1797 [15:09:49] <Neel> i asked in ##linux also
           
         
        
          1798 [15:09:52] <Neel> :/  
         
        
          1799 [15:09:54] <sillyslux> Neel, say: jump!
           
         
        
          1800 [15:09:59] <Neel> :|  
         
        
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          1802 [15:10:02] <RoyK> !patience  
         
        
          1803 [15:10:03] <dpkg> The people here are volunteers, your
            attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available.
           
         
        
          1804 [15:10:06] <petn-randall> Neel: Please be patient, and stop
            spamming the channel.
           
         
        
          1805 [15:10:09] <petn-randall> Also  
         
        
          1806 [15:10:15] <petn-randall> !tell Neel -about crosspost
           
         
        
          1807 [15:10:36] <Neel> T_T  
         
        
          1808 [15:10:46] <Neel> i just need some help setting up tht file
           
         
        
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          1811 [15:12:07] <fast> I'v created a stretch usb stick as
            described in the Stretch Installation Guide as described in Chapter
            4.3.3. When booting from this usb stick the stick gets detected as
            sda which then latern on leads to the problem that grub doenst
            install to the hard disk. When I use a jessie stick (created the
            same way) the stick gets detected as sdb. What could cause such
            behaviour?
           
         
        
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          1817 [15:12:49] <Neel> fast: random dev names are nothing uncommon
           
         
        
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          1819 [15:14:00] <fast> Right. I forgot to mention i use a preseed
            file for the installation. So i have to rely on the stick beeing sdb
            and this worked everytime with jessie.
           
         
        
          1820 [15:15:07] <Neel> fast: on installing grub during a fresh
            install, before proceeding to install grub, start a shell and df -h
            it
           
         
        
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          1823 [15:15:25] <Neel> theres a option to start a shell
           
         
        
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          1825 [15:15:49] <Neel> and from the listings find the appropriate
            name and install grub on it
           
         
        
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          1830 [15:17:43] <fast> I dont get how this would be helpfull. The
            disk will be sda on next boot causing a faulty grub config?
           
         
        
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          1840 [15:21:26] <petn-randall> fast: grub doesn't care about
            device names, it acts on UUIDs, so if you do the equivalent of
            "grub-install /dev/sdb" during installation, it should
            still boot fine.
           
         
        
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          1842 [15:21:57] <petn-randall> fast: Obviously, your /etc/fstab
            should also contain only UUIDs, so if you change it during preseed,
            make sure to not use device names.
           
         
        
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          1846 [15:23:39] <PrincessZelda> Will Debian get a signed
            bootloader? iirc it was promised some week before the first official
            strecth release ..
           
         
        
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          1848 [15:23:50] <PrincessZelda> * stretch  
         
        
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          1854 [15:25:59] <fast> petn-randall: Right, but i would need to
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          1856 [15:26:38] <celyr> mhhh  
         
        
          1857 [15:26:44] <celyr> why nodejs package has not npm ?
           
         
        
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          1861 [15:29:42] <petn-randall> PrincessZelda: Last I've heard
            it wasn't part of the hard release goals for stretch. You can
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          1883 [15:37:33] <petn-randall> celyr: TL;DR: Because it's
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          1884 [15:37:39] <petn-randall> !why is npm not in testing
           
         
        
          1885 [15:37:40] <dpkg> npm is not in testing for the reasons
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          1889 [15:39:56] <RoyK> celyr: just setup a vm with the npm stuff
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          1892 [15:42:00] <SirLagz> anyone know if there's any way to
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            controls on the fly or not. There's no man page and google
            hasn't helped =/
           
         
        
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          1895 [15:42:35] <celyr> RoyK, it's already a vm
           
         
        
          1896 [15:42:48] <celyr> that I use for development
           
         
        
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          1901 [15:44:24] <RoyK> celyr: then install it from source or
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          1903 [15:45:22] <celyr> i'm planning to do that
           
         
        
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          1907 [15:45:48] <celyr> I just  
         
        
          1908 [15:46:02] <celyr> think that there should be a meta package
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          1909 [15:46:08] <celyr> and then removes it if needed
           
         
        
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          1953 [16:07:30] <Bombo> hi  
         
        
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          1960 [16:09:38] <Bombo> how does dpkg decide what locales to
            install? i did 'dpkg -i audacity-data*deb' but it
            didn't install /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/audacity.mo i
            had to extract that manually with -x
           
         
        
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          1968 [16:13:08] <evsystem> hei  
         
        
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          2018 [16:36:58] <petn-randall> Bombo: Why are you installing
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          2022 [16:38:58] <celyr> is Audi city some kind of special place
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          2024 [16:39:31] <petn-randall> *audacity, indeed :)
           
         
        
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          2026 [16:39:59] <jelly-home> celyr: also, anything with a number
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          2064 [16:51:20] <Bombo> petn-randall: because apt didn't
            install a locale
           
         
        
          2065 [16:51:47] <Bombo> petn-randall: so i tried with dpkg from
            apt cache
           
         
        
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          2071 [16:54:39] <Bombo> petn-randall: can i install the missing
            locale with apt?
           
         
        
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          2078 [16:56:11] <gpunk> in a sane system, locale get setup, not
            installed
           
         
        
          2079 [16:56:41] <jelly-home> Bombo: dpkg doesn't really care
            about locales, only apps do
           
         
        
          2080 [16:56:42] <gpunk> if i understood the problem
           
         
        
          2081 [16:56:59] <jelly-home> if you got an error trying to install
            something,
           
         
        
          2082 [16:57:01] <jelly-home> !bat  
         
        
          2083 [16:57:01] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
            apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
            1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
            command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
            pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
            and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2099 [17:03:48] <petn-randall> Bombo: That makes zero sense. If
            it's shipped in the .deb, apt will install it. What jelly says.
           
         
        
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          2103 [17:05:41] <jelly-home> gpunk: honestly debian's way of
            not installing all the system (glibc) locales only makes sense for
            tiny embedded machines now. It's a LOT easier to just install
            locales-all than have to mess with locales package on normal
            workstations or servers
           
         
        
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          2108 [17:06:50] <gamera> hi, does anyone know how to create a
            shortcut to an umounted drive on the gnome desktop
           
         
        
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          2112 [17:07:43] <gpunk> i'd create a shurtcut to the folder
            it will be mounted in
           
         
        
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          2116 [17:08:18] <gamera> I mean so I can quick mount it by
            clicking it
           
         
        
          2117 [17:08:35] <gamera> is there a way to do that
           
         
        
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          2119 [17:08:50] <gpunk> yeah you got to fidle with fstab then
           
         
        
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          2121 [17:09:01] <gpunk> but usually stuff get mounted
            automatically
           
         
        
          2122 [17:09:04] <gamera> where can I find out how much
            fiddlin'
           
         
        
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          2124 [17:09:10] <gpunk> depending on your setup
           
         
        
          2125 [17:09:11] <gamera> not this  
         
        
          2126 [17:09:20] <gpunk> man fstab  
         
        
          2127 [17:09:23] <gamera> I have to mount it, and it's better,
            because it spins down when not in use
           
         
        
          2128 [17:09:49] <gamera> the ssd in this laptop uses enough power
            and I take this thing around
           
         
        
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          2135 [17:13:12] <Bombo> jelly-home: well ok, but what else could
            be the reason for not installing files?
           
         
        
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          2137 [17:13:24] <Bombo> petn-randall: yes i'm wondering too
           
         
        
          2138 [17:13:27] <Bombo> $ dpkg -L audacity-data|grep
            "/LC_MESSAGES/audacity.mo"|wc -l
           
         
        
          2139 [17:13:28] <Bombo> 54  
         
        
          2140 [17:13:37] <Bombo> none installed  
         
        
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          2142 [17:14:07] <Bombo> i just removed it with apt-get, then
            installed it again
           
         
        
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          2145 [17:15:21] <pentiumone133> I am having an issue with tcpd
            holding open host.allow and hosts.deny files when connections are
            made to a mosquitto mqtt broker
           
         
        
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          2147 [17:15:37] <pentiumone133> i have tried googling to just
            straight up disable tcpd but cant find any resources
           
         
        
          2148 [17:16:20] <pentiumone133> syslog is filled with the
            following error: mosquitto: warning: cannot open /etc/hosts.deny:
            Too many open files
           
         
        
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          2150 [17:17:27] <Bombo> $ dpkg --verify audacity-data
           
         
        
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          2153 [17:17:48] <Bombo> i get ??5??????
            /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/audacity.mo for every missing .mo
           
         
        
          2154 [17:18:01] <Bombo> i wonder what ??5?????? means
           
         
        
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          2162 [17:19:17] <petn-randall> Bombo: Start with pasting the data
            from the !bat factoid.
           
         
        
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          2196 [17:30:14] <abd5932> Hello, for certain configuration
            computations I need to determine disk space used by the system
            (excluding users' data which resides in /home/ and /chroots -
            /home/user is bind mounted to /chroots/user/home/user). What is the
            best way to determine that disk space? With which command? Thank
            you!
           
         
        
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          2203 [17:32:13] <BlessJah> is there single source of truth
            regarding preseed d-i options available on recent debian versions
            (jessie and stretch)?
           
         
        
          2204 [17:32:58] <celyr> abd5932, idk i guess the easies way is to
            use du and list the dirs you want to include ?
           
         
        
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          2206 [17:33:07] <celyr> it doesn't look like a long job
           
         
        
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          2208 [17:33:53] <celyr> you can use also the --exclude flag
           
         
        
          2209 [17:34:08] <celyr> but I guess it's too hard to read the
            man and I'm not going to do it for you
           
         
        
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          2212 [17:34:26] <abd5932> celyr: thank you! that's enough :)
           
         
        
          2213 [17:34:30] <BlessJah> every piece of documentation I came
            across seemed to have only subset of those
           
         
        
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          2219 [17:36:39] <jelly-home> BlessJah: assuming you've looked
            at docs, #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org) is _the_
            place where d-i people hang out
           
         
        
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          2225 [17:37:31] <BlessJah> jelly-home: could you point which docs
            are THE docs?
           
         
        
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          2229 [17:38:14] <BlessJah> debian.org's docs, especially
            appendix B?
           
         
        
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          2234 [17:40:51] <jelly-home> hmm  
         
        
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          2237 [17:41:30] <BlessJah> (replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2250 [17:46:43] <jelly-home> I guess install guide _is_ the
            official d-i docs yeah
           
         
        
          2251 [17:46:45] <jelly-home> !d-i  
         
        
          2252 [17:46:46] <dpkg> Debian 9 "Stretch is now the
            "stable" Debian release. See
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          2253 [17:47:46] <BlessJah> ok, thanks  
         
        
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          2268 [17:53:08] <Schwarzbaer> Hi. I'm getting started with
            JavaScript, and noticed that *apparently* there's no package
            for npm? I've googled a bit, and when the best thing I found
            was "Run this install script from npmjs.org", I thought
            I'd better ask people who know their stuff.
           
         
        
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          2271 [17:53:46] <petn-randall> Schwarzbaer: npm isn't in
            Debian due to lack of quality.
           
         
        
          2272 [17:53:55] <petn-randall> !why is npm not in testing
           
         
        
          2273 [17:53:55] <dpkg> npm is not in testing for the reasons
            listed in
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2279 [17:56:15] <sillyslux> do you get yarn instead?
           
         
        
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          2282 [17:57:01] <jhutchins> Schwarzbaer: npm is a package
            management system, it takes you outside of the debian packaging
            system, installing packages that aren't managed by dpkg/apt.
           
         
        
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          2284 [17:57:33] <jhutchins> Schwarzbaer: The npm packages have
            nowhere near the quality control that debian packages have.
           
         
        
          2285 [17:57:43] <sillyslux> Schwarzbaer, this is what i do:
            download current from nodejs.org and unpack in /usr/local, and i do
            that regularly...
           
         
        
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          2287 [17:58:10] <jhutchins> Schwarzbaer: That said, if you're
            committed to javascript development or a javascript project as your
            primary use of the server, go for it.
           
         
        
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          2291 [17:59:07] <sillyslux> jhutchins, there's npm -i and
            there's npm -g -i, the former is needed for pretty much
            everything in node projects
           
         
        
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          2299 [18:00:52] <jhutchins> There are several projects where
            it's better to go direct to the upstream source. WordPress,
            Drupal, other things that just don't percolate through the
            Debian testing system quickly enough, but do have their own quality
            control.
           
         
        
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          2304 [18:01:51] <Schwarzbaer> jhutchins, the same holds true for
            Python's pip though.
           
         
        
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          2308 [18:03:41] <Schwarzbaer> sillyslux, eeereplaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2310 [18:05:13] <sillyslux> Schwarzbaer, there is are at least one
            "considered good solution" out there namely nvm get more
            help in #node.js
           
         
        
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          2312 [18:06:23] <sillyslux> i wouldn't be surprised if it was
            using the same source though
           
         
        
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          2314 [18:07:55] <sillyslux> Schwarzbaer,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2316 [18:08:24] <sillyslux> builds from source...
           
         
        
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          2332 [18:12:35] <sillyslux> hah... :( curl -sL
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2423 [18:49:56] <ngc0202_> hi all, I just switched to gnome and I
            can't seem to get my lock screen to come up
           
         
        
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          2426 [18:50:56] <ngc0202`> I've tried the shortcut as both
            Super+L and Ctrl+Alt+L and neither work
           
         
        
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          2429 [18:51:12] <ngc0202`> I've also checked the dconf-editor
            for some relevant settings under lockout
           
         
        
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          2431 [18:51:26] <Schwarzbaer> Thanks, sillyslux
           
         
        
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          2433 [18:51:54] <sillyslux> Schwarzbaer, now what did you use?
           
         
        
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          2439 [18:53:28] <Schwarzbaer> sillyslux,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2441 [18:53:48] <sillyslux> Schwarzbaer, also for a development
            env, i'd really recommend to keep it updated since i believe
            this is still evolving
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          2442 [18:54:00] <ngc0202`> is the middle button in the power menu
            between Settings and Shutoff supposed to be to lock?
           
         
        
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          2452 [18:55:06] <sillyslux> oh and lol, curl-sL |sudo -E bash - is
            a very bad habit
           
         
        
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          2456 [18:55:50] <sillyslux> i don't think it should be
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          2458 [18:56:08] <Schwarzbaer> I know that... "Never run code
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          2460 [18:56:50] <Schwarzbaer> Also, now I have an npm. nvm is
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          2463 [18:57:27] <sillyslux> nvm should be a simple bash script
           
         
        
          2464 [18:57:37] <sillyslux> but i haven't looked at it yet
           
         
        
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          2466 [18:58:06] <Schwarzbaer> Well, so is virtualenv. I meant that
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          2469 [18:58:41] <sillyslux> dunno, for help on node.js you should
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          2471 [18:59:02] <Schwarzbaer> Will do.  
         
        
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          2519 [19:21:39] <LtL> ngc0202`: super+l *should* lock, and yes the
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          2607 [19:57:17] <xbow> lo  
         
        
          2608 [19:57:33] <xbow> anyone got amdgpu-pro working on stretch?
           
         
        
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          2611 [19:58:48] <xbow>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2613 [19:59:15] <xbow> ^this one  
         
        
          2614 [19:59:28] <towo`> xbow, you see debian as supported os
            anywhere there?
           
         
        
          2615 [19:59:50] <xbow> towo`: no  
         
        
          2616 [19:59:50] <towo`> and what makes you think, you need
            amdgpu-pro?
           
         
        
          2617 [20:00:17] <xbow> towo`: well i needed it and i got it
            working
           
         
        
          2618 [20:00:30] <xbow> just my two cents  
         
        
          2619 [20:00:36] <annadane> xbow, installing outside the debian
            repositories is generally a bad idea
           
         
        
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          2622 [20:01:10] <xbow> annadane: thx for the reminder
           
         
        
          2623 [20:01:12] <xbow> =)  
         
        
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          2625 [20:01:31] * xbow is just annoyed (again) by amd/ati
           
         
        
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          2628 [20:02:07] <towo`> the easyest why installing amdgpu-pro is
            using the steamos repo, not supported by debian, but works
           
         
        
          2629 [20:02:18] <towo`> s/why/way  
         
        
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          2633 [20:02:53] <xbow> no worries..just wanted to provide if
            someone is interessted
           
         
        
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          2637 [20:05:31] <xbow> and of note got it working with HDMI soudn
           
         
        
          2638 [20:05:34] <xbow> sound even  
         
        
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          2640 [20:06:20] <xbow> seemed to be a major issue with the amd
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          2653 [20:11:20] <jhutchins> xbow: Write it up on a blog or wiki
            somewhere?
           
         
        
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          2655 [20:11:45] <xbow> jhutchins: should do that yep
           
         
        
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          2657 [20:12:17] <xbow> brb  
         
        
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          2670 [20:15:43] <xbow> re  
         
        
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          2673 [20:15:52] <xbow> busy chan here  
         
        
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          2682 [20:18:16] <noahmg123> How can I view the event/input log?
           
         
        
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          2686 [20:18:36] <xbow> noahmg123: dmesg -T ?
           
         
        
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          2691 [20:20:10] <noahmg123> xbow: I actually think I just found
            it. It's xinput, I think.
           
         
        
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          2693 [20:20:37] <xbow> noahmg123: ic, great
           
         
        
          2694 [20:20:57] <xbow> noahmg123: depends what kind of log
            you're searching for
           
         
        
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          2701 [20:21:58] <noahmg123> xbow: /sys/class/input/inputX
           
         
        
          2702 [20:22:20] <noahmg123> xbow: the one I want isn't
            showing up in xinput :p
           
         
        
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          2704 [20:22:37] <xbow> hmmm  
         
        
          2705 [20:22:56] <teraflops> noahmg123: I still dont get what you
            want
           
         
        
          2706 [20:23:15] <xbow> noahmg123: what device do you want?
           
         
        
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          2709 [20:24:27] <noahmg123> I have a two-in-one laptop. The lid
            switch is an actual input. I want to see the log. I would use xinput
            test, but it's not on xinput. But I know it recognizes it as a
            "device".
           
         
        
          2710 [20:25:11] <xbow> noahmg123: first try to identify the device
            with "lspci" or "lsusb"
           
         
        
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          2715 [20:27:38] <noahmg123> xbow: it doesn't show up in
            those, but /sys/class/input/input1/name says "Lid Switch"
            and my keyboard is disabled when the lid moves past 180 degrees. So
            it's obviously a trigger somewhere.
           
         
        
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          2717 [20:28:04] <xbow> noahmg123: ok ic  
         
        
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          2721 [20:28:45] <xbow> noahmg123: you want to change the behaviour
            of the lid switch then?
           
         
        
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          2725 [20:29:22] <noahmg123> xbow: I want to extend it. It disables
            the keyboard, but not the touchpad
           
         
        
          2726 [20:29:41] <xbow> hmmm  
         
        
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          2742 [20:37:19] <noahmg123> xbow: any ideas?
           
         
        
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          2745 [20:38:59] <xbow> noahmg123: acpi issue would dig into that
            but tbh i don't know for sure
           
         
        
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          2747 [20:39:30] <noahmg123> xbow: acpi issue?
           
         
        
          2748 [20:39:56] <xbow> noahmg123: the lid is acpi related..search
            for that
           
         
        
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          2751 [20:40:33] <noahmg123> xbow: search for it where?
           
         
        
          2752 [20:40:40] <xbow> noahmg123: in general you can manage such
            things with the power options but in your case it's special
           
         
        
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          2755 [20:41:08] <noahmg123> xbow: yeah. I get it, sorta.
           
         
        
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          2759 [20:41:31] <xbow> noahmg123: kk  
         
        
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          2765 [20:42:52] <noahmg123> xbow: thinking now, it may not be the
            Lid Switch but idk what it'd be then. It also recognizes my
            gyroscope which is weird because a previous install of Debian
            didn't.
           
         
        
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          2769 [20:43:45] <xbow> noahmg123: kk  
         
        
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          2781 [20:47:20] <noahmg123> xbow: it's actually was in
            xinput. It's under one device called WMI hotkeys.
           
         
        
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          2783 [20:47:40] <xbow> noahmg123: nice dude
           
         
        
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          2799 [20:50:56] <noahmg123> Thanks  
         
        
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          2965 [21:42:11] <inSync_> 1so what happened with debian, just
            installed a clean system and boom
           
         
        
          2966 [21:42:15] <inSync_> no netstat  
         
        
          2967 [21:42:26] <inSync_> ssh acts funny  
         
        
          2968 [21:42:33] <petemc> ss replaced netstat
           
         
        
          2969 [21:42:39] <inSync_> are these new 'features'
           
         
        
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          2971 [21:42:51] <inSync_> petemc: ss? will check it out thanks
           
         
        
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          2974 [21:43:22] <petemc> how does ssh act funny?
           
         
        
          2975 [21:43:33] <inSync_> what about openssh, what happened, i
            always configure ssh key auth, but this time it does not work
           
         
        
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          2981 [21:43:59] <inSync_> i even uncommented a couple of lines in
            /etc/ssh/sshd_config
           
         
        
          2982 [21:44:17] <petemc> you dont need to for keys to work
           
         
        
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          2985 [21:44:37] <petemc> !debug sshd  
         
        
          2986 [21:44:37] <dpkg> To debug sshd (server), run this as root on
            the server: "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222". Then use
            "ssh -p 2222 username@servername" on the client. See also
            <slow ssh connect>, <ssh permissions>.
           
         
        
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          2990 [21:45:13] <inSync_> but it's a clean install
           
         
        
          2991 [21:45:23] <petemc> so?  
         
        
          2992 [21:45:57] <inSync_> openssh used to work with key auth out
            of the box
           
         
        
          2993 [21:46:04] <petemc> there is potential to incorrectly set up
            ssh keys
           
         
        
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          2996 [21:46:33] <inSync_> i usually edit
            /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys
           
         
        
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          2999 [21:46:51] <inSync_> and add a line with the public key
           
         
        
          3000 [21:46:56] <inSync_> done that for years
           
         
        
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          3002 [21:47:16] <inSync_> but not this time
           
         
        
          3003 [21:47:20] <inSync_> lol  
         
        
          3004 [21:47:23] <petemc> works for me  
         
        
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          3012 [21:48:52] <inSync_> in fact, usually i disable password
            authentication
           
         
        
          3013 [21:49:22] <inSync_> i just installed a fresh system just to
            doublecheck
           
         
        
          3014 [21:49:32] <inSync_> but the behaviour is the same
           
         
        
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          3016 [21:49:41] <petemc> see above for help with debugging
           
         
        
          3017 [21:50:18] <inSync_> the machine is behind NAT, so i only
            have access to the specific port that is forwarded
           
         
        
          3018 [21:50:32] <inSync_> can't connect to other ports
           
         
        
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          3021 [21:50:52] <petemc> so stop ssh  
         
        
          3022 [21:51:07] <petemc> and run the above on available port
           
         
        
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          3029 [21:52:09] <inSync_> how can i stop ssh if i'm there by
            ssh...?
           
         
        
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          3031 [21:53:07] <nkuttler> inSync_: why do you want to stop it?
           
         
        
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          3033 [21:53:27] <nkuttler> eh..  
         
        
          3034 [21:53:27] <inSync_> nkuttler: petemc was sugesting it
           
         
        
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          3040 [21:56:07] <inSync_> ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
           
         
        
          3041 [21:56:13] <inSync_> is this necessary?
           
         
        
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          3045 [21:59:03] <inSync_> in sshd_config  
         
        
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          3055 [22:01:14] <inSync_> got the problem  
         
        
          3056 [22:01:20] <inSync_> a dawmn typo  
         
        
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          3058 [22:01:39] <inSync_> in the authorized keys file
           
         
        
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          3061 [22:02:20] <inSync_> it started with sh-rsa instead of
            ssh-rsa
           
         
        
          3062 [22:02:37] <inSync_> thanks petemc nkuttler
           
         
        
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          3120 [22:22:39] <awwal> ffmpeg is default yet , eh?
           
         
        
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          3128 [22:24:17] <teraflops> what do you mean by default?
           
         
        
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          3130 [22:24:25] <teraflops> iirc both are in the repos
           
         
        
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          3132 [22:25:18] <teraflops> if you want ffmpeg you type ffmpeg, if
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          3138 [22:27:05] <awwal> well, I was refering to this
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          3139 [22:27:23] <awwal> nvm; I havent found that link before
            asking :P
           
         
        
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          3142 [22:27:51] <teraflops> 2015 ^  
         
        
          3143 [22:28:11] <awwal> #729203  
         
        
          3144 [22:28:13] <judd> Bug
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          3209 [22:49:47] <easytoremember> Hi all. I am trying to modify
            Android to block extraction of APKs by other APPs. I was wondering
            if someone here could check my question out and offer some input.
            I'd really appreciate it. Thank you.
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          3211 [22:50:07] <easytoremember> P.S. I know this is #debian, but
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          3260 [23:06:46] <illiquld>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          3300 [23:17:43] <RedSoxFan07> That's NSFW
           
         
        
          3301 [23:18:09] <RedSoxFan07> Would have been nice to distinguish
            as such. Not something you want to open in front of family.
           
         
        
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          3328 [23:25:34] <RoyK> RedSoxFan07: spammer
           
         
        
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          3334 [23:27:06] <petemc> !ops illiquid_  
         
        
          3335 [23:27:07] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
            mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
            zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall:
            petemc complains about a problem (see above)
           
         
        
          3336 [23:27:15] <illiquid_> fuck off dick  
         
        
          3337 [23:27:28] <illiquid_> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez,
            RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff,
            weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly,
            petn-randall: petemc complains about a problem (see above)
           
         
        
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          3340 [23:28:22] <ryouma> the real debian user was the giveaway
           
         
        
          3341 [23:29:22] <dTal> NSFW? NSFL  
         
        
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          3348 [23:33:50] <inSync> well done petemc, did not knew about that
            bot command
           
         
        
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          3351 [23:35:00] <petemc> its usually better to use it with a
            (good) reason specified
           
         
        
          3352 [23:35:27] <inSync> cool  
         
        
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          3374 [23:48:13] <RedSoxFan07> I'm still having screen tearing
            on XFCE, even after installing Compton and creating the config file
            as per these instructions:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          3375 [23:48:21] <RedSoxFan07> Any ideas?  
         
        
          3376 [23:48:38] <RedSoxFan07> I'm running XFCE 4.12. I think
            it might actually be XFCE 4.12.3.
           
         
        
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          3380 [23:50:40] <inSync> maybe driver issues?
           
         
        
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          3393 [23:57:37] <RedSoxFan07> inSync: It's possible. I'm
            running on a Dell Optiplex 380 with Intel i915 graphics and
            xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed
           
         
        
          3394 [23:57:53] <jhutchins> RedSoxFan07: You installed it on
            Debian?
           
         
        
          3395 [23:58:03] <RedSoxFan07> jhutchins: Yeah.
           
         
        
          3396 [23:58:20] <jhutchins> RedSoxFan07: Ah, problems before and
            after compton.
           
         
        
          3397 [23:58:32] <RedSoxFan07> jhutchins: Yeah.
           
         
        
          3398 [23:58:41] <petn-randall> RedSoxFan07:
            xserver-xorg-video-intel is obsolete, check the package description.
           
         
        
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          3400 [23:59:10] <jhutchins> RedSoxFan07: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is
            very noisy, but it might have some clues buried in it.
           
         
        
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          3402 [23:59:53] <RedSoxFan07> Here's the description for
            xserver-xorg-video-intel:
           
         
        
          3403 [23:59:55] <RedSoxFan07> Description: X.Org X server -- Intel
            i8xx, i9xx display driver
           
         
        
          3404 [23:59:55] <RedSoxFan07> This package provides the driver for
            the Intel i8xx and i9xx family
           
         
        
          3405 [23:59:55] <RedSoxFan07> of chipsets, including i810, i815,
            i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, i945
           
         
        
          3406 [23:59:55] <RedSoxFan07> and i965 series chips.
           
         
        
          3407 [23:59:55] <RedSoxFan07> .  
         
        
          3408 [23:59:56] *** RedSoxFan07 was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please
            use
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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