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1 [00:00:14] <gljoe> or perhaps a rock...depending on your
translations of ancient literature
2 [00:00:18] <yokisuci> gljoe: gljoe Well i don't think
anything about that tbh couse i don't know anything about the
philosophers stone. But i sure know that's there no way for
mankind to get eternal life, atleast not in this world. And if there
was, i'm pretty sure that i would want it.
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5 [00:00:42] <yokisuci> that i wouldn't*
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7 [00:01:12] <gljoe> yokisuci...you would not treasure an
eternity of days to spend with the one and only true love of your
life
8 [00:01:17] <yokisuci> gljoe: anyway. Time is 00:00 here, so
time for me to sleep. nighty night
9 [00:01:32] <yokisuci> gljoe: nopez i wouldn't.
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11 [00:01:57] <gljoe> yokisuci..well then maybe you have not
found a true love worth keeping
12 [00:02:11] <gljoe> yet
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14 [00:02:50] <gljoe> or maybe you are not being fully honest
with yourself
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18 [00:04:21] <gljoe> its funny how some people say we
cant' think of a damn thing to say so we will just say....love
is love
19 [00:05:37] <gljoe> and some believe that a few have
experienced it in history...and it would still be love even if they
called it agapi
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21 [00:06:31] <gljoe> or amoree
22 [00:06:51] <gljoe> etc
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40 [00:14:16] <gljoe> yokisuci..i hope you do find a love with
living and striving for...something that you would be willing to
treasure for eternity and beyond
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43 [00:14:53] <gljoe> yokisuci...but you might need to find the
philosopher's stone to be able to achieve that
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45 [00:15:25] <gljoe> because philosophy is all about truth
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47 [00:15:59] <gljoe> at least according to myth
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50 [00:16:16] <centrx> Philo-sophy means love of wisdom
51 [00:16:21] <centrx> sophia
52 [00:16:51] <gljoe> centrx yes but wisdom to the ancients was
to know of the truth.
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54 [00:17:26] <CutMeOwnThroat> gljoe, please keep topics on
technical questions about Debian in here… for fantasy and
deep philosophy or whatever we have #debian-offtopic
55 [00:17:34] <gljoe> centrx at least according to myth.
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62 [00:18:55] <gljoe> gljoe...well the technical hurdles are
still many and quite high..so many sound problems with debian makes
me wonder if another 25 years will accomplish a decent
sound/graphics environment
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65 [00:19:17] <gljoe> gljoe...but it does make some headway into
the foray at this time
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70 [00:20:39] <gljoe> gljoe and technically i still cant set up
a fortran or c++ loop that can count past infinity
71 [00:20:57] <gljoe> gljoe...so that is a major technical
problem to me
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73 [00:21:13] <n4dir> troubles with debian kFreeBSD after i
upgraded to jessie. May i ask bout it here?
74 [00:21:16] <gljoe> gljoe because so many believe that
eternity is a very short time indeed
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77 [00:21:33] <centrx> n4dir: sure
78 [00:21:45] <CutMeOwnThroat> gljoe, that didn't mean
you're supposed to monologue on in here
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80 [00:22:03] <CutMeOwnThroat> n4dir, there's also a
dedicated channel on oftc for it, though
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82 [00:22:06] <n4dir> K, boot goes fast, i seem to see something
it can't write to /run/network. After login, no connection
83 [00:22:11] <CutMeOwnThroat> dpkg, kfreebsd
84 [00:22:12] <dpkg> Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists
of GNU userland using the GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's
kernel, coupled with the regular Debian package set. kfreebsd-amd64
and kfreebsd-i386 are not official release architectures for Debian
8 "Jessie" due to quality concerns.
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85 [00:22:14] <gljoe> cutme...well they asked me to mention a
technical issue with debian
86 [00:22:16] <n4dir> CutMeOwnThroat: I know, but you hardly get
answers there
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89 [00:22:52] <gljoe> cutme...so i mentioned the technical
problem with debian not supported a c,c++, or fortran loop that can
count past infinity
90 [00:23:37] <CutMeOwnThroat> that is not a technical problem
but gibberish… and much better suited for the offtopic
channel
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93 [00:23:58] <gljoe> so people can find some quantitative
support of the qualitative issue of beyond infinity
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95 [00:24:07] <n4dir> you mean me?
96 [00:24:26] <gljoe> and question if eternity really is a very
short time indeed
97 [00:24:49] <gljoe> like only the first 10 minutes missing the
rest of the entire hour
98 [00:25:12] <centrx> n4dir: He's talking to gljoe,
you're question is fine, although probably not many people know
about kfreebsd
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103 [00:25:54] <n4dir> i would be happy to know of the according
logfile. Using wired, if it fails, i usually just do "dhclient
eth0" and it works. No clue what log file i am looking for
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106 [00:26:14] <ompaul> start with syslog
107 [00:26:34] <ompaul> then grep the other log files for eth0
108 [00:26:48] <gljoe> cutme...you may not think quantitive
support is beneficial...but then again would you want to take an
overdose of arsenic because you did not understand things at a
quantitative level
109 [00:26:58] <n4dir> thanks, ompaul
110 [00:27:07] <CutMeOwnThroat> n4dir, ah, that was for me - yes,
did not mean you. Your question is fine… time for me for bed
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115 [00:28:31] <gljoe> would you take 5 milligrams of aspirin or
50000 grams of aspirin because you don't think quantitative
issues are important
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117 [00:29:14] <gljoe> gljoe...how then would you know which one
is safer if life matters to you.
118 [00:29:14] <ompaul> I see someone is making the cardinal sin
that ordinarily would be left alone.
119 [00:29:57] <gljoe> ompaul..is it a cardinal sin to protect
and preserve life...since when
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121 [00:30:37] <gljoe> ompaul..i am a doctor and a doctor i will
be...it has never changed in nearly 40 years....cardinal sin or not
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125 [00:31:10] <gljoe> ompaul...they will never force me to
renounce my doctoral qualifications
126 [00:31:14] <ompaul> ah you didn't see the obvious
mathematical truth I spoke to, some omega would be lost on you
127 [00:31:36] <posi> Really weird issue, this binary links fine
in release but chokes on libgtkui stuff in debug mode. What's
weird is libgtkui totally works in release and it would complain if
itwasn't being linked in. I also see it on ldd
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131 [00:32:50] <gljoe> ompaul...like a say cardinal sin or
not...for me to do my doctor thing...quantitive support is necessay
so i don't recommend someone to take an overdose of harmful
drugs and lose their life needlessly
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135 [00:33:20] <centrx> That would be unfortunate
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137 [00:34:25] <gljoe> ompaul...you may not think it matters
whether you jump off a 15,000 foot height or a 3 foot height without
a parachute because you don't think a quantitative assessment
matters.
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139 [00:34:33] <ompaul> gljoe you want to count beyond infinity
go ask Hilbert how that worked out for him, while you are there you
might like a room in his hotel.
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143 [00:35:58] <gljoe> ompaul....well some people question
whether eternity is a very short time indeed or whether an inifinity
of objects is a very small amount indeed
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147 [00:36:46] <gljoe> ompaul...and the technical issue..is
creating a fortran loop that can count past that infinity bitch to
investigate this....
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149 [00:37:02] <centrx> Your mom is a fortran loop
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153 [00:37:47] <gljoe> ompaull...well can imagine how ignorant
you would be if you only saw the first 10 minutes of an hour long
speil of wisdom.
154 [00:38:04] <gljoe> can you imagine
155 [00:38:17] <ranix> gljoe: move to the offtopic channel
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157 [00:40:46] <gljoe> centrx...i think my mom was much more than
a fortran loop...
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162 [00:42:34] <gljoe> centrx...for example consider the loop j =
j + 2 from 1 to forever.
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164 [00:43:09] <gljoe> centrx...now how small is that infinity
since you miss all the fractions.
165 [00:43:40] <gljoe> centrx...would you make technical problems
censored on this channel
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169 [00:44:32] <centrx> There is no channel
170 [00:44:42] <gljoe> centrx...could an infinity or forever
really be a short time indeed and miss the rest of the entire hour
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173 [00:46:21] <gljoe> centrx its just counting past the bitch
that is the technical problem on debian
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175 [00:47:04] <gljoe> centrx...and that is part of why i say i
believe my mom was much more than a fortran loop
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177 [00:47:25] <centrx> I'm sure she loved you very much,
even when you did annoying things like this
178 [00:48:02] <gljoe> or a miniskirt to be lifted up ...or an
angelic voice to sing songs of love ...or a delicate person that
could feel a small green pea under 7 mattresses.
179 [00:48:20] <gljoe> centrx...much much more..than these
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184 [00:51:13] <gljoe> someone who cared about the pain Anne
Frank had to suffer...and would not want any more women to be
treated like that....and much much more even than that
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186 [00:53:47] <centrx> What if I told you that in your heart is
the same evil that caused her pain?
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189 [00:55:00] <gljoe> centrx...i don't think that is the
truth....because i did not murder innocent little girls like Anne
Frank or even her just as important slightly older sister.
190 [00:55:30] <centrx> Have you ever hated someone?
191 [00:56:09] <gljoe> centrx...absolutely...i hate all these
goddamn bastards that stole my wife and children and murdered my
Indian wife.
192 [00:56:30] <centrx> And what would you do if you found them?
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194 [00:57:07] <gljoe> centrx...well now...how would i find my
Indian wife after they murdered her in cold blood and tried to
exterminate me several times
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198 [00:57:20] <centrx> If you found the people who murdered her
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201 [00:57:47] <gljoe> centrx...well there is a myth of Marshall
James Anderson that might shed some light on that question
202 [00:58:08] <bazhang> this is way offtopic for here
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205 [00:58:35] <bazhang> debian has an offtopic channel you
realize
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207 [00:58:46] <somiaj> gljoe: do you have an actual debian
question if not please take the conversation elsewhere, though I
woudl suggest /dev/null
208 [00:58:53] <gljoe> centrx...in short i hate thives,rapists,
murderers, and people that try to tug on superman's cape and
people that try to pull the mask off the old lone ranger
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211 [01:00:52] <gljoe> centrx...and this hate does not seek out
and destroy innocent little girls like Anne Frank
212 [01:01:00] <gljoe> or my mom
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223 [01:04:14] <bazhang> thanks somiaj
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294 [01:55:28] <Howdy> Guys How do I know if xen-pciback is
compiled into the kernel or loaded as a module
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304 [02:00:39] <n4dir> i would probably do something like
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339 [02:19:47] <posi> Getting a weird linking issue when linking
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419 [03:02:18] <Xz> hi there, looking for fdisk on debian wheezy
to inspect contents of .img disk image
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422 [03:02:31] <Xz> didn't find fdisk, is there anything
else I could use?
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438 [03:11:37] <th0r> Xz I think fdisk resides in /sbin You need
to run it as root
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483 [03:22:51] <ponyofdeath> hi, trying to figure out how to
remap a bad sector on a disk, getting the LBA_of_first_error from
smartmon tools how can i for a remap of that with dd? the drive does
not have a partition
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496 [03:29:33] <Howdy> anybody here did PCI pass thru on jessie?
497 [03:29:40] <Howdy> Stuck on PCI Back...
498 [03:29:42] <Howdy>
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499 [03:30:39] <Howdy> modprobe pciback
500 [03:30:48] <Howdy> modprobe: FATAL: Module pciback not found
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508 [03:33:35] <Howdy> pciback.hide==(04:00.0)(04:00.1)
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510 [03:33:37] <Howdy> bash: syntax error near unexpected token
`04:00.0'
511 [03:33:52] <Howdy> xen-pciback.hide=(04:00.0)(04:00.1)
512 [03:33:54] <Howdy> bash: syntax error near unexpected token
`04:00.0'
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570 [04:03:18] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I'm trying to
install debian alongside OS X on my iMac. Where do I place GRUB or
LILO?
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571 [04:04:13] <AlexLikeRock> GRUB its better
572 [04:04:16] <AlexLikeRock> Richard_Cavell,
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577 [04:05:15] <AlexLikeRock> LILO its abandoned
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696 [05:08:01] <AudaxNovus> I'm running a Raspberry Pi 3
Model B with latest stable Kali Linux release for ARM. System works
fine, was installing metasploit for research project, which requires
postgresql. Had to abort mid-install (hardware issue). Had a lot of
trouble trying to completely clean postresql, seemed to have gotten
rid of every package EXCEPT postgresql-common. Causes this crap, I
ran a foolproof sudo apt-get --purge remove postgresql\* to make
sure it was all gone)
697 [05:08:13] <AudaxNovus>
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698 [05:08:20] <AudaxNovus> Any help would be greatly
appreciated. :)
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700 [05:09:35] <AlexLikeRock> do not use pastebin.com , not
friendliy with GNU
701 [05:09:39] <AlexLikeRock> AudaxNovus,
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703 [05:10:01] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock, would site would you
like?
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711 [05:13:32] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock this better?
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712 [05:13:59] <AlexLikeRock> no
713 [05:14:27] <AlexLikeRock> || to paste use paste.debian.net ||
714 [05:14:34] <AlexLikeRock> paste.debian.net
715 [05:15:26] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock here you go! sorry
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719 [05:17:13] <AlexLikeRock> try sudo apt-get --purge remove
postgresql-*
720 [05:17:54] <AlexLikeRock> they say
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722 [05:17:55] <AlexLikeRock> v
723 [05:17:58] <AlexLikeRock> Use 'sudo apt autoremove'
to remove it.
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727 [05:19:12] <AudaxNovus> Okay I've done similar to the
first one, I'll try autoremove
728 [05:19:42] <AudaxNovus> Could not get the lock (11: resource
temporarily unavailable)
729 [05:19:49] <AudaxNovus> Unable to lock the admin dir
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731 [05:20:40] <AlexLikeRock> do you have synaptic open ? (closed
please )
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733 [05:21:36] <josephine_> hello folks, I just installed flash,
do I need to reboot?
734 [05:21:39] <AudaxNovus> No, I've not even started the
GUI since it was last booted
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736 [05:21:51] <AudaxNovus> Installed flash, ripperoni josephine_
737 [05:22:02] <AlexLikeRock> josephine_, just reboot the browser
, not the PC
738 [05:22:13] <josephine_> been there, did that, still have
issues
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740 [05:22:37] <AlexLikeRock> yes, flash player ITS NOT FREE
FOSTWARE
741 [05:22:51] <AlexLikeRock> alwys happen whit Flash player
742 [05:23:17] <AlexLikeRock> they eat my 100 % of my peformance
of my laptop :-(
743 [05:23:26] <AlexLikeRock> i hate Flash player
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745 [05:23:46] <josephine_> Anyone else have flash player
working?
746 [05:23:55] <AlexLikeRock> i
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769 [05:31:34] <josephine_> Hello all, I installed flash (yeah I
know flash sucks) I need it for school stuff
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772 [05:32:04] <josephine_> I followed the debian install
instructions, restarted my browser, but still get 'failed to
load yadda yadda'
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779 [05:34:49] <josephine_> never mind, figured it out. Thanks
anyways
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791 [05:39:10] <mrrtump> devops is unpleasant
792 [05:39:17] <mrrtump> can we fight it?
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794 [05:39:22] <mrrtump> java also needs to go
795 [05:39:33] <AudaxNovus> xd solid meme
796 [05:39:45] <mrrtump> unregulated capitalism meme
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801 [05:42:34] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock did autoremove, it
realized it had to uninstall postgresql-common
802 [05:42:40] <AudaxNovus> Then it spammed that same line again
803 [05:43:27] <AudaxNovus> the one about systemd-helper and head
not found
804 [05:43:40] <AlexLikeRock> just forget postgresql-common
805 [05:43:48] <AudaxNovus> I can't though I need a proper
install
806 [05:43:49] <AlexLikeRock> let it stay in you PC
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809 [05:43:51] <AudaxNovus> It
810 [05:44:02] <AudaxNovus> It's a dependency for a program
I absolutely 100% require
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813 [05:45:08] <AlexLikeRock> you need remove ?
814 [05:45:24] <AudaxNovus> I need it 100% removed
815 [05:45:38] <AudaxNovus> To get a clean uninterrupted install
this time
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818 [05:51:01] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock any suggstions?
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821 [05:51:36] <AlexLikeRock> yes,
822 [05:51:38] <AlexLikeRock> wait ...
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826 [05:53:29] <AlexLikeRock> sudo apt-get -f install
827 [05:53:39] <AlexLikeRock> sudo dpkg --configure -a
828 [05:53:44] <AlexLikeRock> sudo apt-get autoremove
829 [05:53:56] <AlexLikeRock> sudo apt-get -f install
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831 [05:54:29] <AlexLikeRock> dpkg --remove
--force-remove-reinstreq postgresql-common
832 [05:54:30] * dpkg rips the still-beating --force-remove-reinstreq
postgresql-common from alexlikerock's chest, leaving
alexlikerock in a coma.
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835 [05:55:16] <AlexLikeRock> AudaxNovus, dpkg --purge
postgresql-common
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837 [05:55:49] <AlexLikeRock> apt-get -f install
838 [05:55:53] <AlexLikeRock> done
839 [05:56:05] <AlexLikeRock> tell me how you go :-)
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852 [06:05:22] <AudaxNovus> whjich ones holy crap
853 [06:05:24] <AudaxNovus> Am I doing
854 [06:05:42] <AlexLikeRock> lol
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856 [06:05:58] <AlexLikeRock> some times its hard to remove or
Install pakages :-P
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858 [06:06:27] <AudaxNovus> I still get this same crap
859 [06:06:34] <AudaxNovus> About diversions to
/usr/bin/pg_config
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861 [06:07:08] <AlexLikeRock> ???
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863 [06:07:13] <AlexLikeRock> paste please
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903 [06:23:25] <montreal> Hi guys
904 [06:23:46] <montreal> I have a problem and googling
doesn't help
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906 [06:24:19] <Rusty1_> try yahoo
907 [06:24:19] <AlexLikeRock> !ask
908 [06:24:20] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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914 [06:25:27] <montreal> I was setting up nginx server and sudo
start nginx says sudo: start: command not found
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916 [06:27:09] <Rusty1_> montreal: what version debian?
917 [06:27:14] <_10chik> Has anyone here had success in creating
a boot drive that is recognized by recent macbooks, while
simultaneously is able to be booted into from the Windows EFI
bootloader?
918 [06:27:19] <montreal> jessie
919 [06:27:26] <_10chik> (Debian specifically)
920 [06:27:49] <Rusty1_> montreal: try: sudo service start nginx
921 [06:28:24] <AlexLikeRock> montreal, try service nginx start
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926 [06:31:51] <montreal> hmm, it works :)
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958 [06:57:12] <AlexLikeRock> very good montreal
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961 [06:58:25] <montreal> but still something wrong with my uwsgi
configuration
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963 [06:59:00] <AlexLikeRock> i dont now about
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967 [07:00:34] <montreal> I'm using this tutorial.
Everything was fine until the last step, where I was launching uswgi
as daemon in emperor mode
968 [07:00:37] <montreal>
replaced-url
969 [07:01:04] <daemon> I am always in empower mode :)
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973 [07:01:50] <montreal> lol :)
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986 [07:10:56] <plasmoduck> Does the following command make a
bootable usb installer?
987 [07:11:01] <plasmoduck> sudo cp
Downloads/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdb1
988 [07:11:24] <plasmoduck> or is it just copying the image to
the drive?
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995 [07:14:07] <plasmoduck> it seems so, but when I boot from the
usb stick on my laptop, it's showing Intel(R) boot agent
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997 [07:14:35] <AlexLikeRock> change to LEGACY
998 [07:14:42] <plasmoduck> PXE-E53: No boot filename received
999 [07:14:44] <AlexLikeRock> go to BIOS SETTINGS
1000 [07:14:50] <AlexLikeRock> to change plasmoduck
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1002 [07:15:05] <plasmoduck> Exotomg omte; bppt agemt omsert
system disk in drive and press any key
1003 [07:15:16] <AlexLikeRock> and change USB-HDD first
1004 [07:15:25] <plasmoduck> what am I changing?
1005 [07:15:35] <plasmoduck> change what to LEGACY?
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1009 [07:16:49] <plasmoduck> Its a Toshiba Portege R700
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1012 [07:19:03] <AlexLikeRock> plasmoduck,
replaced-url
1013 [07:19:29] <AlexLikeRock> UEFI / BOOT mode :
"LEGACY"
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1015 [07:21:53] <plasmoduck> I have nothing like that in my bios
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1026 [07:28:05] <plasmoduck> I select to boot from usb
1027 [07:28:12] <plasmoduck> and its doing it's thing
1028 [07:28:16] <plasmoduck> dhcp etct
1029 [07:28:20] <plasmoduck> then it exits
1030 [07:28:28] <plasmoduck> and asks for a system disk
1031 [07:28:29] <plasmoduck> wtf
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1036 [07:29:56] <plasmoduck> finally
1037 [07:30:01] <AlexLikeRock> cool
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1079 [07:49:19] <awal1> plasmoduck: btw, no root needed for cp
that iso
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1107 [08:06:01] <k_sze[work]> Is there a way to tell when and why
a deb package was installed?
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1111 [08:06:27] <k_sze[work]> e.g. some of my servers have
libgeos-c1 installed, and I want to know what installed them (maybe
as dependency).
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1113 [08:06:57] <nkuttler> k_sze[work]: aptitude why <pkg>
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1120 [08:12:08] <awal1> k_sze[work], apt-cache rdepends pkgname
also may will help
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1124 [08:14:22] <k_sze[work]> awal1: that seems to show *all*
dependents, even those that are not installed, correct?
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1126 [08:14:46] <awal1> k_sze[work], right
1127 [08:14:47] <k_sze[work]> I guess that's useful if I
uninstalled a dependent and have not done autoremove yet.
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1129 [08:15:32] <awal1> rdepends just helps, as I said, aptitude
why is more util in your case
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1134 [08:17:09] <k_sze[work]> Thanks for the tips. :)
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1172 [08:41:53] <nkuttler> um, is there something in debian than
can play apple lossless audio files?
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1178 [08:43:33] <somiaj> nkuttler: have you tried anything yet?
maybe mpv or vlc
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1181 [08:43:49] <frdrwn> /msg ChanServ TOPIC #debian
1182 [08:44:13] <somiaj> frdrwn: you can also just type /topic
1183 [08:44:34] <nkuttler> somiaj: i should have been more
specific, using gstreamer.. yeah, mpv can play it :||
1184 [08:44:47] * nkuttler will just convert it to a proper format
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1187 [08:46:27] <frdrwn> somiaj: thanks
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1216 [09:05:07] <foul_owl> How do I get firefox save/open dialog,
evince, et al to not use gnome 3 style windowing crap. My window
manager is fluxbox and the windows are "stuck". xterm,
vlc, etc work fine.
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1220 [09:07:18] <awal1> foul_owl: you may get what you want
removing all gtk3 stuff
1221 [09:07:39] <awal1> + adwaita stuff
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1224 [09:08:09] <foul_owl> libwxgtk3.0 ?
1225 [09:08:47] <foul_owl> Hmm no...that tries to remove audacity
also, that can't be right
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1229 [09:10:04] <awal1> not sure what gtk3 and gnome stuff you
"should" remove exactly but what you describe is gtk3 /
gnome related, as I minimally i understand all that
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1231 [09:11:01] <awal1> I dont know if you will get it since all
your system/apps are interdependent
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1239 [09:12:49] <awal1> If not wrong, firefox doesn't have
full support for gtk3, evince is built with gtk3, foul_owl
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1241 [09:13:17] <awal1> and gtk 3 = gnome
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1246 [09:14:57] <awal1> foul_owl, I dont know how to explain you
technically what i want to tell you, but you may have an idea yet
about what I wanted to tell you
1247 [09:16:01] <foul_owl> The issue is that I think gtk3 stuff is
deps for a TON of software
1248 [09:16:06] <foul_owl> I just want to _disable_ it
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1250 [09:16:09] <foul_owl> Not remove
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1253 [09:16:35] <foul_owl> Ah I'll keep digging
1254 [09:16:37] <foul_owl> Thanks
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1256 [09:16:52] <awal1> vlc is built with qt , not gtk; even if it
supports it
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1258 [09:18:02] <fernie> are you talking about csd in gtk3 ?
1259 [09:18:26] <awal1> I guess I'm not wrong about what I
said about vlc :D :P
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1264 [09:20:05] <awal1> foul_owl: a few days ago I asked you about
which theme are you using for your flux but you haven't
answered
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1268 [09:21:32] <awal1> desktop theme, not fluxbox windows
decoration theme
1269 [09:21:47] <awal1> a gtk2/3based one?
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1276 [09:26:38] <foul_owl> Ahhhhh
1277 [09:26:40] <foul_owl> Ok sorry
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1283 [09:27:55] <foul_owl> I don't know....how do I check
that?
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1286 [09:28:17] <foul_owl> I'm not using like a
"Desktop" addon ("desktop" in the windows sense
of the word)
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1303 [09:38:44] <awal1> foul_owl: almost all the apps you use use
gtk (2 or 3) toolkit, and maybe somes of theme qt. so I don't
know how you can get out of gtk (2/3) stuff
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1314 [09:41:31] <awal1> install lxappearance pkg and choose a gtk2
based theme for your flux; you may kick off gtk3/gnome appearance
for apps which, foul_owl doesn't depends on gtk3
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1317 [09:41:54] <foul_owl> Ooooo
1318 [09:41:57] <awal1> which doesn't... ^ :D
1319 [09:41:59] <foul_owl> Thank you!!! Let me try that!!!
1320 [09:43:01] <awal1> for sure apps that depends on gtk3 will
still use gtk3 , such as evince :P
1321 [09:43:33] <foul_owl> Ah damn
1322 [09:43:39] <foul_owl> So basically there is no way to
fix...ugh
1323 [09:43:43] <foul_owl> gtk3 is awful
1324 [09:43:59] <foul_owl> I have a multimonitor setup, and evince
is stuck on the left monitor
1325 [09:44:04] <foul_owl> can't be resized or moved
1326 [09:44:31] <awal1> "no way to fix" ? not sure :P
1327 [09:44:49] <foul_owl> No way to fix evince
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1344 [09:53:26] <styler2go> Hi, i am trying to get sound output
through hdmi. Any idea where i should start?
1345 [09:54:14] <frdrwn> using pavucontrol alsamixer set output
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1347 [09:54:43] <styler2go> Already tried those things
1348 [09:55:01] <styler2go> i also edited /etc/pulse/default.pa
and set the default output device
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1534 [11:03:00] <Hijiri> Is Krita planned for inclusion in
stretch?
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1537 [11:04:02] <Veni> hi!
1538 [11:04:05] <Hijiri> hi
1539 [11:04:31] <Trax> Hi all. I had installed in a virtual
Machine the Debian 8 to test it a if everything its ok.. make a
migration. The problem is.. that this Debian 8 VM sometimes... the
router table appears empty. The Interface is not going down.. not
unplugged the wire.. or whatever. Just the route table disappear..
and after several minutes... the route table appears correctly with
all routes. Thats why..
1540 [11:04:31] <Trax> sometimes... The server lose conectivity. I
checked all the logs.. and I don´t see anything that could
cause this clearing in the router table.
1541 [11:04:45] <Trax> Does anybody manage a problem like this?
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1546 [11:07:16] <echosystm> if i debootstrap on a usb drive, how
do i make it bootable?
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1548 [11:07:37] <echosystm> i know how to set up the fstab, but
how do i get grub installed?
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1563 [11:15:07] <glitchfest> hello
1564 [11:15:13] <glitchfest> Anybody here?
1565 [11:15:27] <Hijiri> no
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1571 [11:16:45] <glitchfest> DAN
1572 [11:16:57] <glitchfest> Anybody here
1573 [11:16:59] <glitchfest> cmon
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1575 [11:17:32] <glitchfest> Hey
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1577 [11:17:36] <HJfFun> !ot
1578 [11:17:37] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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1580 [11:17:48] <glitchfest> hey
1581 [11:18:28] <Logg> !ask
1582 [11:18:28] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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1611 [11:31:40] <ficek> hello guys :)
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1617 [11:32:35] <atlasloewenherz> i have a quite weired network
bridge problem, this is a system with xen and i have sevral PV domUs
which works fine and some HVM domUs that works partially ( only two
out of seven HVM domUs have a working VIF ) any idea how to debug
this down?
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1648 [11:39:10] <_22decembre> Hello
1649 [11:39:24] <ficek> hi
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1652 [11:39:50] <_22decembre> I would like to know if anyone here
knows a way to bond an eth and a wifi iface
1653 [11:40:07] <_22decembre> while the wifi is still managed by
networkmanager
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1655 [11:41:15] <at0m> _22decembre:
replaced-url
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1658 [11:42:19] <_22decembre> at0m: thanks. Have not seen this one
page
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1661 [11:43:00] <Mahe> Hey guys. I got a problem with cpu scaling.
My '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_driver'
say 'intel_pstate';
'/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/max_perf_pct' is 50
and '/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo' is 1.
Yet, '/proc/cpuinfo' frequently shows values of 2.6 GHz
for each core under load - on my 1.8GHz i5 (ivy bridge) processor.
Actually, it should never go higher than 900 MHz with those
settings. I'm running jessie
1662 [11:43:00] <Mahe> with 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel. Any idea what
could be wrong?
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1681 [11:51:04] <mrrtump> firmware-linux-nonfree
1682 [11:51:10] <mrrtump> amd or intel microcode package
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1737 [12:17:15] <deepbluv> how to fix this error:
'[MhmdI.Mstfa@debian myfiles][bash][19:34:43]$ sdcc sdcc: error
while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory [ROOT:MhmdI.Mstfa@debian New
folder][19:24:43]# dpkg -i libstdc++6_6.2.1-5_i386.deb dpkg:
regarding libstdc++6_6.2.1-5_i386.deb containing libstdc++6:i386:
libstdc++6 breaks libboost-date-time1.55.0
libboost-date-time1.55.0:amd64 (version 1.5
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1742 [12:20:37] <mado> Hello everyone :) ...
1743 [12:21:22] <mado> I'm sorry but I'm a little lost
right now. Can you please tell me what the difference between ISOs
on ->
replaced-url
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1750 [12:22:29] <azarus> Hey guys! When i try to do
"xbacklight", it returns "No outputs have backlight
property" even though i've used xbacklight on a different
distro before.
1751 [12:22:39] <jelly> deepbluv: which debian release are you
supposed to have installed?
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1755 [12:23:45] <mado> I'd like to install Debian 8.6 on my
dad's computer ... and I thought since it's an older
computer "mate" would be a good idea ... but
"mate" can only be found on those iso-hybrids ... i'm
a little confused though as to which one I can actually use now
though ... on a usb pendrive and or CD/DVD
1756 [12:24:15] <introom> how to boot debian8.6 into text mode ?
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1759 [12:24:51] <jelly> deepbluv: pastebin the output of
«ldd ./sdcc» and «echo "native: $(dpkg
--print-architecture) multiarch: $(dpkg
--print-foreign-architectures)"»
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1762 [12:26:01] <jelly> mado: first is the installer, second is
the live image. They are not the same. Use the installer image to
install stuff.
1763 [12:26:34] <converge> when I try to run skype, I get this
error: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1:
wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64, anyone knows why ?
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1765 [12:26:50] <deepbluv> jelly: sorry ,I don't have access
to the machine right now
1766 [12:27:07] <jelly> deepbluv: no problem, ask again when you
do
1767 [12:27:32] <jelly> converge: how did you install skype?
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1769 [12:27:58] <converge> jelly, im using deepin, just apt-get
install skype
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1771 [12:28:12] <mado> gotcha, jelly ... thank you ... soooo ->
replaced-url
1772 [12:28:27] <jelly> converge: ask the deepin people then,
Debian does not come with a prepared repo for skype
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1779 [12:32:06] <jelly> mado: the installer does not come with
anything preinstalled, installation is a process. Assuming you have
(wired) internet connection available at install time, you can pick
the desired desktop environment as a step in the process
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1781 [12:32:52] <jelly> mado: if you only have wireless on that
machine, you may need to try the debian-installer image with
non-free firmware
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1783 [12:32:59] <jelly> !firmware images
1784 [12:33:00] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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1787 [12:33:25] <mado> i'm a little confused, jelly ... 1)
yes, i do have a wired internet connection ... 2) i don't
completely get which ISO then to download that lets me pick a
desktop environment
1788 [12:33:41] <mado> debian-8.6.0-i386-CD-1.iso ... comes with
GNOME
1789 [12:33:47] <mado> debian-8.6.0-i386-kde-CD-1.iso ... KDE
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1791 [12:33:54] <mado> debian-8.6.0-i386-lxde-CD-1.iso ... LXDE
1792 [12:34:08] <jelly> mado: use the netinst one.
1793 [12:34:20] <jelly> mado: are you 100% sure you want a 32bit
OS?
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1795 [12:34:36] <babilen> mado: All of them allow you to choose
*any* desktop environment. The images simply differ in the packages
that they contain (and that don't have to be downloaded again)
and the pre-selected environment
1796 [12:35:05] <mado> uh! ... i overlooked that ... ha! :D ...
yes, jelly ... for my dad's computer i need a 32bit version ...
the computer he wants to use at the moment is at least 6 years old
if not older
1797 [12:35:23] <jelly> 6 years old will probably be 64bit as well
1798 [12:35:38] <mado> maybe ... but he only has 2 gb of ram
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1800 [12:35:57] <frdrwn> i have 2 gb ram but 64 bit
1801 [12:37:00] <mado> my own computer is about 8 years old and
close to failing completely ... i'm also using a 64 bit version
... but i thought that everything below 3gb should use 32bit? ...
guess i'm wrong then? :)
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1804 [12:37:14] <jelly> mado: try the combined 32+64 bit image
(the one on the main page
replaced-url
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1807 [12:37:57] <jelly> that seems to be at
replaced-url
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1811 [12:38:58] <jelly> it's possible to add specific 32bit
support back into a 64bit installation, and it's also possible
to do the opposite if hardware allows
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1815 [12:40:02] <mado> well jelly ... i'm still more or less
new to the world of GNU Linux ... i'm not able to do that yet
1816 [12:40:03] <jelly> but installing a 32bit system on
64bit-capable hardware is maybe a suboptimal choice these days
1817 [12:40:15] <mado> but alright, jelly ... i'll be burning
this ISO then
1818 [12:40:31] <mado> these days, maybe ... but don't forget
it's an older computer :)
1819 [12:40:48] <jelly> if you have an extra usb stick you may use
that and not have to burn anything
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1822 [12:41:37] <mado> yeah ... i'll use one for my own
computer some time sooner or later ... so the ISO you showed me can
be burned and used on a usb pen drive ... nice :)
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1824 [12:42:21] <jelly> my 2007 core2 desktop at work was
64bit-capable
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1833 [12:44:37] <mado> what tool on Windows would you suggest i
should use when using the ISO you just showed me, jelly?
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1837 [12:45:57] <jelly> to overwrite a usb stick?
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1839 [12:45:59] <jelly> !win32diskimager
1840 [12:45:59] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than
<unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can
download it from
replaced-url
1841 [12:46:00] <babilen> dpkg: win32diskimager
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1845 [12:47:51] <mado> thank you ... i'll be right back
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1897 [13:14:21] <zer0mad_> new canadian is hot
1898 [13:14:22] <zer0mad_> :)
1899 [13:14:27] <zer0mad_> nice jackets
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1904 [13:16:14] <hellyeah> how to check which graphic driver i
use?
1905 [13:16:49] <mrrtump> dont
1906 [13:16:52] <mrrtump> just relax
1907 [13:17:02] <hellyeah> why relax? :D
1908 [13:17:02] <mrrtump> learn some programming
1909 [13:17:06] <mrrtump> time better spent
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1913 [13:17:14] <hellyeah> i know some programming :D
1914 [13:17:15] <mrrtump> swi prolog is pretty cool
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1917 [13:17:33] <mrrtump> think you could clone craigslist or
4chan?
1918 [13:17:34] <hellyeah> prolog is logical programming language
right
1919 [13:17:54] <mrrtump> unregulated capitalism is best
1920 [13:18:00] <hellyeah> mrrtump: are you supporter of TRUMP?
1921 [13:18:00] <bazhang> mrrtump, thats so offtopic here
1922 [13:18:08] <mrrtump> of course
1923 [13:18:22] <bazhang> mrrtump, so please stop it
1924 [13:18:23] <hellyeah> so i understand why you are high like
that :D
1925 [13:18:49] <hellyeah> okey i wanna know i am using free diver
or propeorit driver
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1930 [13:20:42] <nikitasius> hi folks! can someone help with bash?
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1935 [13:20:52] <nikitasius> here is problem...
replaced-url
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1958 [13:29:52] <dschense> Hi everybody. I have some problems with
internet connection and static ip. with dhcp everything is working
just fine, but after setting the ip static i can still ping the
router and everything else in the network, but dont have internet
connection. anybody who can help?
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1960 [13:30:25] <ImUs3r> how can i know that app is installed or
not?
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1965 [13:31:30] <avian> nikitasius, something like this?
replaced-url
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1978 [13:35:41] <icebrain> dschense: have you set the default
gateway?
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1980 [13:36:19] <icebrain> dschense: also, DNS servers? can you
ping 8.8.8.8 ?
1981 [13:36:23] <dschense> yes, I did, but its still not working
1982 [13:36:39] <dschense> no, i cant ping anything outsite mit
local network
1983 [13:37:17] <dschense> iface eth0 inet static
1984 [13:37:18] <dschense> address 192.168.178.201
1985 [13:37:18] <dschense> netmask 255.255.255.0
1986 [13:37:18] <dschense> gateway 192.168.178.1
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1989 [13:38:00] <dschense> sorry for flood. wanted to paste to
pastebin. wrong window
1990 [13:38:02] <icebrain> dschense: that sounds fine. please
paste the output of "route -n" and of the file
/etc/resolv.conf
1991 [13:38:45] <dschense> 0.0.0.0 192.168.178.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0
eth0
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1994 [13:38:57] <dschense> 192.168.178.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0
0 0 eth0
1995 [13:39:31] <dschense> this was route -n
1996 [13:39:50] <dschense> and resolv.conf is: domain fritz.box
search fritz.box nameserver 192.168.178.1
1997 [13:39:56] <dschense> seems legit for me.
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2010 [13:44:02] <dschense> icebrain: anything else I can look for?
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2012 [13:44:17] <icebrain> sorry not from the top of my head :|
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2023 [13:50:13] <Martiini> I'm thinking of repartitioning my
drive ... is it ok to change gpt SSD drive to mbr and erase all
windows partitions ... on my new lenovo bios there is uefi, gpt ..
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2029 [13:52:57] <helldorado> hi all
2030 [13:53:34] <helldorado> it's possible to backports for
some packages with pkgsel un preseed
2031 [13:53:37] <jmp_> Martiini: rather not
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2075 [14:13:15] <fadavi> Hello there, i've some error/warning
in dmesg output (Ubuntu 16.10): paste.ubuntu.com/23567596/ any idea?
solution?
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2119 [14:34:41] <jim_carry> Any use debian on thinkpad 430?
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2155 [14:50:57] <automaton> hi, how do I know which files did a
package install?
2156 [14:51:25] <automaton> without google I mean
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2167 [14:56:38] <_22decembre> automaton: why not going to see on
packages.debian.org ?
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2169 [14:57:43] <automaton> _22decembre, nah
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2174 [14:58:45] <TomTomTosch> automaton: dpkg -L <pkg>
2175 [14:58:50] <hwbj> automaton why not try dpkg -L PACKAGENAME
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2180 [14:59:36] <automaton> thanks hwbj TomTomTosch
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2226 [15:19:49] <ImUs3r> what is shorten of dmesg?
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2230 [15:20:32] <jelly> ImUs3r: can you rephrase that question?
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2232 [15:21:22] <ImUs3r> what dmesg is shorted with?
2233 [15:21:53] <abrotman> What?
2234 [15:21:58] <abrotman> ImUs3r: try to phrase it differently
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2236 [15:22:37] <ImUs3r> dmesg is shorted word, what is it?
2237 [15:23:20] <tremon> dmesg isn't an abbreviation, if
that's what you mean
2238 [15:24:32] <ImUs3r> tremon: disk message error send go?
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2241 [15:26:25] <ImUs3r> what is abbreviation of dmesg?
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2243 [15:26:49] <tremon> the freebsd manual page (replaced-url
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2247 [15:27:49] <jelly> ImUs3r:
replaced-url
2248 [15:27:51] <ImUs3r> thanks tremon ;)
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2252 [15:30:02] <ImUs3r> ok jelly :)
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2271 [15:38:25] <david-e> I connect via ssh to a debian Jessie
server and issue "shutdown -r now": the server reboots and
the ssh client disconnects immediately - fine. If I use the ssh
inside a virtual machine, server reboots but client does not
disconnects: i have to press enter after a while to get it
disconnected
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2347 [16:06:40] <deepbluv> I wanna install a packge that have
libhid dependency.how to get libhid for jessie?
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2353 [16:08:32] <deepbluv> I also have difficulty in installig
libstdc++.and dpkg wouldn't nstallit.what should I do?
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2377 [16:18:21] <ImUs3r> i can’t see file name of chinese,
then how can i see it? file name is strange to me :(
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2396 [16:24:25] <ImUs3r> i can’t see file name of chinese,
then how can i see it? file name is strange to me :( help me plz
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2401 [16:25:48] <setuid> Other than entity encoding (%40F), is
there an easy way to support "replaced-url
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2404 [16:26:15] <setuid> ISTR there was a bracketed way of doing
it, [user@host]:pass type of thing
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2427 [16:39:10] <n4dir>
replaced-url
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2429 [16:39:37] <setuid> "Other than..." :)
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2432 [16:40:16] <greycat> If you already have a working solution,
why are you asking?
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2434 [16:41:11] <setuid> greycat, Because I thought there was
another way, tmtowtdi and all that. I'll bang on it a bit. I
just don't recall the syntax.
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2436 [16:42:38] <introom> how to force debian to start with
framebuffer disabled?
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2438 [16:42:57] <introom> setting "vga=normal nofb nomodeset
text" in GRUB, still fails though.
2439 [16:43:17] <setuid> introom, is it doing uefi boot, high-res
grub?
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2442 [16:43:52] <introom> setuid: high-res grub?
2443 [16:43:54] <introom> what's that?
2444 [16:44:17] <setuid> Like if you boot with a 4k screen, the
grub text is 3840x2160, microscopic
2445 [16:44:57] <setuid> video=vesafb:off
2446 [16:45:06] <setuid> Try adding that
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2448 [16:45:33] <introom> the VM is run by qemu/kvm
2449 [16:45:42] <setuid> *nod*, ok... so try that
2450 [16:45:44] <introom> it's debian8.6
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2452 [16:45:58] <setuid> Which video card did you assign?
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2454 [16:46:19] <setuid> Cirrus?
2455 [16:46:30] <setuid> qxl? vga? vmvga?
2456 [16:46:44] <introom> setuid: didn't assign anything.
sudo kvm -m 256 eva.qcow -net nic,model=virtio -net
user,net=192.168.101.0/24,hostfwd=tcp::8022-:22
2457 [16:46:49] <introom> that's the command I run up the vm.
2458 [16:47:14] <introom> setuid: I am new to qemu/kvm. so dunno
what video card is assigned.
2459 [16:47:26] <setuid> load up virt-manager and check
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2461 [16:47:55] <setuid> Or, just use -vga std
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2464 [16:48:10] <introom> setuid: it's on a server. no X
installed. and I can only ssh into the server.
2465 [16:48:19] <introom> the server is running qemu/kvm.
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2467 [16:49:27] <setuid> Right, so use -vga std when building it
2468 [16:50:08] <setuid> vga=normal nofb nomodeset
video=vesafb:off i915.modeset=0
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2470 [16:50:24] <introom> setuid: set that inside grub ?
2471 [16:50:36] <setuid> Yes, or in your boot line, whichever is
easier
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2478 [16:53:29] <introom> setuid: I am still stuck in the screen:
" 1024 x 768 Graphic mode"
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2480 [16:54:07] <Cryp71c> Using apt-get to install some stuff in
an automated fashion, but one of the things actually opens up a
graphical prompt for accepting the "license agreement" for
which the -y flag does not auto-accept. This is a major hangup, is
there anyway I can script around it?
2481 [16:54:19] <introom> the whole command I am using is: sudo
kvm -m 256 eva.qcow -net nic,model=virtio -net
user,net=192.168.101.0/24,hostfwd=tcp::8022-:22 -curses
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2483 [16:54:32] <introom> note the -curses, I've no X env
around.
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2494 [16:57:48] <introom> but I can ssh into that vm.
/var/log/syslog says, "Console: switching to colour frame
buffer device 128x48"
2495 [16:57:55] <introom> so framebuffer is still used.
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2497 [16:58:05] <ws2k3> im trying to compile php on debian 8 but
im getting the error configure: error: Unable to locate gmp.h i
already installed libgmp-dev on wheezy this was enough anything else
i need to do or why this is not working?
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2501 [16:58:45] <greycat> Figure out which package it's in on
jessie.
2502 [16:58:52] <greycat> judd file gmp.h
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2504 [16:58:55] <judd> Search for gmp.h in jessie/amd64:
liblrs-dev: usr/include/lrsgmp.h; libgmp-dev:
usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h; libcore++-dev:
usr/include/CORE/Gmp.h; libc6-dev: usr/include/netinet/igmp.h;
linux-libc-dev: usr/include/linux/igmp.h; libisl-dev:
usr/include/isl/val_gmp.h; libcgal-dev: usr/include/CGAL/CORE/Gmp.h,
usr/include/CGAL/gmp.h; musl-dev: usr/include/x86_64-linux-
2505 [16:58:56] <judd> musl/netinet/igmp.h; libwireshark-dev:
usr/include/wireshark/epan/dissectors/packet-igmp.h,
usr/include/wireshark/epan/dissectors/packet-rgmp.h;
linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common:
usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common/include/linux/igmp.h,
usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common/include/uapi/linux/igmp.h
2506 [16:59:40] <greycat> Bah. Don't know what syntax to use
to help judd narrow it down.
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2513 [17:00:32] <greycat> Ah, this one works:
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2515 [17:00:37] <greycat> judd file ?/gmp.h
2516 [17:00:40] <judd> Search for ?/gmp.h in jessie/amd64:
libcore++-dev: usr/include/CORE/Gmp.h; libcgal-dev:
usr/include/CGAL/CORE/Gmp.h, usr/include/CGAL/gmp.h; libgmp-dev:
usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h
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2519 [17:01:33] <ws2k3> i think im not following you greycat
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2524 [17:02:04] <greycat> The file is in package libgmp-dev
(probably).
2525 [17:02:07] <greycat> So install that.
2526 [17:02:14] <ws2k3> greycat i already did
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2528 [17:02:29] <greycat> You said you installed it on WHEEZY, but
that you are now using jessie. Make sure it's still installed.
2529 [17:02:31] <ws2k3> im trying to compile php on debian 8 but
im getting the error configure: error: Unable to locate gmp.h i
already installed libgmp-dev on wheezy this was enough anything else
i need to do or why this is not working? look in my question
2530 [17:02:56] <greycat> See? Still says "debian 8" and
"wheezy" just as if you repeated that SAME FUCKING WORDS
WITH NO MODIFICATIONS.
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2534 [17:03:42] <ws2k3> greycat i did repeat the same words with
no modifications
2535 [17:03:47] <greycat> Then you suck.
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2537 [17:04:09] <ws2k3> greycat anyway i verified its installed on
jessie and it is installed and still im getting the same error
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2541 [17:04:23] <greycat> Instead of repeating what we already
saw, you could paste the line that proves you CURRENTLY, on THIS
version of Debian, have the package installed.
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2543 [17:04:53] <ws2k3> greycat libgmp-dev is already the newest
version. (jessie)
2544 [17:05:15] <greycat> *sigh* ok... then your build process
probably needs to be configured to find it.
2545 [17:05:16] <ws2k3> i copyed it from my terminal do you desire
i paste it anyway?
2546 [17:05:27] <greycat> That is pasting. This is pasting. You
pasted.
2547 [17:05:38] <ws2k3> okay thx
2548 [17:05:44] <greycat> I would have gone with pasting the
"ii" line from dpkg -l, but I guess this is acceptable.
2549 [17:06:12] <greycat> Figure out what you have to do to your
thing-you-are-building to make it find the header. There might be a
flag you have to pass to ./configure or something.
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2551 [17:06:20] <ws2k3> greycat ii libgmp-dev:amd64 2:6.0.0+dfsg-6
amd64
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2553 [17:06:23] <colo-work> you can _probably_ build PHP without
the gmp library; did you check its configure script?
2554 [17:06:32] <greycat> Oh, it's php. God. No wonder.
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2557 [17:06:42] <ws2k3> greycat --with-gmp yes php
2558 [17:06:44] <colo-work> gmplib 6 is the latest major release
of the library, so that should be fine
2559 [17:06:48] <greycat> I won't even ask why you are
buliding upstream php instead of using the debian packages.
2560 [17:06:52] <colo-work> so issue --without-gmp
2561 [17:06:58] <colo-work> unless you are sure you need its
features
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2564 [17:07:09] <colo-work> (unless you expect to do bignum
arithmetic a lot, you probably don't)
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2568 [17:07:27] <l0llip0p> /quit
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2574 [17:08:22] <ws2k3> colo-work im sure i need its features
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2576 [17:08:40] <greycat> Then ask ##php what ./configure flag to
use to tell it the LOCATION of the header file.
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2582 [17:08:55] <greycat> Or run ./configure --help again and read
the output more thoroughly.
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2586 [17:09:20] <ws2k3> greycat i need --with-gmp=/PATH but then i
need to find out where the gmp.h is in debian
2587 [17:09:27] <greycat> judd file ?/gmp.h
2588 [17:09:30] <judd> Search for ?/gmp.h in jessie/amd64:
libcore++-dev: usr/include/CORE/Gmp.h; libcgal-dev:
usr/include/CGAL/CORE/Gmp.h, usr/include/CGAL/gmp.h; libgmp-dev:
usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h
2589 [17:09:32] <greycat> Ta da!
2590 [17:09:55] <colo-work> ws2k3, next time you want to find that
out, run `dpkg -S gmp.h`
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2594 [17:11:51] <n4dir> not sure, but i seem to have just learned
that "whereis" will tell you where is (say gmp)
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2596 [17:12:26] <greycat> Once it's installed on your system,
there are several ways, including "locate".
2597 [17:13:08] <n4dir> which i usually use. "whereis"
only got stuck as to me it was a funny name.
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2602 [17:14:49] <ws2k3> ln -s /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h
/usr/include/gmp.h did the job
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2642 [17:35:53] <colo-work> hmmm, rsyslog from jessie-backports
seems broken; depends on a package that doesn't exist (any
more?)
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2652 [17:40:15] <centrx> looks like it
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2676 [17:49:24] <p53ud0nym> Hi, I'm getting an error running
apt update in sid for "Err:3
replaced-url
2677 [17:49:48] <p53ud0nym> It returns "404 Not Found [IP:
212.211.132.250 80]". What's the issue?
2678 [17:49:51] <greycat> Sid's not supported here.
2679 [17:49:59] <greycat> Sid also has no security updates, duh.
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2683 [17:50:29] <p53ud0nym> :D
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2686 [17:51:04] <yann-kaelig> Hi
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2712 [17:56:04] <zh1> is there any way i can reverse a rm -rf ?
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2714 [17:56:18] <colo-work> restore from backups
2715 [17:56:26] <AlexLikeRock> hahahaha
2716 [17:56:32] <AlexLikeRock> zh1, nooooooooooooooooooooo
2717 [17:56:38] <AlexLikeRock> hahahahhah
2718 [17:56:41] <greycat> colo-work's answer is correct.
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2720 [17:56:58] <colo-work> if you don't have any, unmount
the filesystem, and DO NOT TOUCH it. make a block-wise copy of the
backing device, and see if you can use a filesystem-specific tool to
get your data back, at least in part.
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2725 [17:57:29] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I'm trying
to dual boot OS X and Debian on an iMac5,1. Where should I put GRUB?
I tried putting it on sda4, but when it rebooted Debian
wouldn't load. Here's my partition map:
replaced-url
2726 [17:57:34] <greycat> mounting read-only is an acceptable
substitute for unmounting, maybe
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2730 [17:59:14] <introom> setuid: qemu -vga virtio did the trick.
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2732 [17:59:32] <introom> thanks for reminding me qemu -vga std,
unless the problem won't be solved.
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2751 [18:06:58] <setuid> mice
2752 [18:07:04] <setuid> er nice... should document that
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2767 [18:13:52] <setuid> introom, What difficulties was the fb
causing for you?
2768 [18:14:01] <setuid> and how did you inject it into the boot
args at provisioning time?
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2784 [18:21:14] <dinknukem3d> hey fuck you crooked nigger dick
suckin jew sons of bitches that try to censor everyone...you
thieving, lying, murdering, raping, pedaphile sons of bitches need
to be brought to justice.
2785 [18:21:24] <setuid> sigh
2786 [18:21:39] * setuid wonders where he put the /report option
2787 [18:21:43] <Epakai> !ops dinknukem3d got lost on the internet
2788 [18:21:44] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: epakai complains
about: dinknukem3d got lost on the internet
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2793 [18:23:44] <dinknukem3d> you motherfuckers need to pay for
your fuckin crimes...you got something against pig farmers getting
sick of feeding the rich fat pigs and desiring to protect little
girls from monsters like you sons of bitches
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2796 [18:24:40] <dinknukem3d> you think laws should be broken and
everyone should be allowed to kill little girls like Anne Frank and
others
2797 [18:24:45] <teraflops> ./ignore add dinknukem3d
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2801 [18:26:00] <dinknukem3d> Marshall James Anderson doesnt think
so....he would kill all the men that got in his way of saving a
little girl
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2814 [18:30:23] <Iota> Happy Pizza Friday!
2815 [18:31:01] <dinknukem3d> you want to sit on your crooked
asses and suck niggers dicks and do nothing about people kidnapping
and murdering Anne Frank and many other innocent and helpless little
girls
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2823 [18:32:56] <zh1> did a rm -rf ~ by accident so... how can i
recover user system files? the rest i have a backup
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2829 [18:35:48] <centrx> zh1: You could use an undeletion tool
like extundelete or testdisk
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2832 [18:36:15] <centrx> zh1: Note that you should not continue to
use the disk, except in read-only mode, or you risk permanent
deletion of your files.
2833 [18:36:28] <centrx> zh1: (that is, until you are finished
with undeleting)
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2850 [18:43:34] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I'm trying
to dual boot OS X and Debian on an iMac5,1. Where should I put GRUB?
I tried putting it on /dev/sda4, but when it rebooted Debian
wouldn't load. Here's my partition map:
replaced-url
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2857 [18:44:40] <converge> Richard_Cavell, are you using bootcamp
?
2858 [18:44:46] <Richard_Cavell> No Sir
2859 [18:44:52] <Richard_Cavell> Should I be?
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2862 [18:45:50] <converge> Richard_Cavell, yes, its the best way
to do it
2863 [18:48:00] <Richard_Cavell> Even though I'm installing
debian rather than Windows?
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2867 [18:49:44] <somiaj> Richard_Cavell: doesn't osx use efi?
In this case wouldn't you want to put grub in the efi
partition?
2868 [18:50:05] <Richard_Cavell> I don't want to bork my
computer's ability to load OS X
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2875 [18:54:49] <Richard_Cavell> converge: So do I just pretend
that I'm installing Windows 7? Please don't give me advice
if you're not familiar with it.
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2886 [18:58:23] <converge> Richard_Cavell, I installed it without
bootcamp, had a lot of problems, after I did it using bootcamp, had
not errors, grub was installed correct with 0 errors. If you dont
want advices, dont ask for it
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2898 [19:03:16] <yogiman-ws> Hello all, can anyone advise,
according to the debian wiki if I create a USB installer stick and I
want to include any non-free firmware I can place the required
firmware files into the folder /firmware on the usb stick. OK seems
simple enough, except for the fact that the USB stick is read only
to both me as a user and to the root account, am I missing something
here or is this a bit of a bug in the documentation?
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2900 [19:04:27] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: be careful the instructions
are assuming you are installing from a cd.
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2902 [19:04:48] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: if installing from a usb you
need to have the firmware on a seperate usb drive, it is kinda
vague, but just use the firmware installer
2903 [19:04:51] <somiaj> !firmware images
2904 [19:04:52] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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2906 [19:05:11] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, well they don't appear
to do so, but even if that were correct a CD would be read only too?
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2908 [19:05:30] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: no if you were on a CD, you
would have the firmware on the root directory of an usb drive
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2911 [19:06:19] <greycat> Burned CDs (iso 9660 file systems) are
most definitely read-only. That file system was never designed to
support writes.
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2913 [19:06:25] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, I thought about that, had a
2nd usb stick at hand fat32 with the firmware on the usb stick, it
doesn't see the 2nd stick regardless of when the stick is
inserted, i.e before boot or when it asks for the firmware
2914 [19:06:27] <somiaj> i.e. the firmware needs to be on a medium
that is not the install medium (which means that even if you make a
partition of the unused space on a usb drive and put it there, you
have to manually copy it over)
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2917 [19:06:56] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: yea I've seen others
have problems. It works if booting from a cd, it needs to be cleaned
up as most people don't install from cds but from usb drives.
2918 [19:07:15] <somiaj> so your choices are 1) use the unoffical
netinstall image with firmware installed
2919 [19:07:30] <somiaj> 2) manually copy the firmware to the
correct place by hitting alt-f2 inside the installer and opening up
a shell
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2921 [19:07:46] <yogiman-ws> ok somiaj thanks for the tip, think
the documentation needs some work on this one ;)
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2924 [19:08:15] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, I appreciate your help, hope
I can return the favour sometime :) be well.
2925 [19:08:34] <somiaj> yea I think most just have learned how to
deal with firmware. I think the installer needs to be fixed so it
can use firmware from a second partiion on the installer usb or
correctly scan other places
2926 [19:08:41] <somiaj> or better yet allow the user to specify
the location of the firmware
2927 [19:08:56] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, sounds like a good idea to me
2928 [19:09:05] <somiaj> in this case I think manually copying the
firmware to /target/lib/firmware will work
2929 [19:09:25] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, ok will give that a go,
thanks again :)
2930 [19:09:35] <somiaj> or maybe /lib/firmware in the memeory
filesystem and let the installer copy it over (its been so long
since I have installed I forget the deatils)
2931 [19:10:33] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, well yes same here, but last
time I installed from CD and used mem stick for firmware. Thought
I'd save a CD and some space in a landfill this time, should
have known better.
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2933 [19:11:10] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, again thank you, will go and
try that now.
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2958 [19:22:34] <Cryp71c> Trying to use debconf to set an
installation parameter but I'm not doing something right. I
need "msodbcsql msodbcsql/accept_eula select true" but
I'm getting "debconf msodbcsql/accept_eula select
true"
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2961 [19:23:36] <Cryp71c> Nevermind.
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2979 [19:32:59] <le_pig> Anyone aware of a preseed generator, like
the kickstart configurator? I found a Google Code project called
"phelper", but it's abandoned.
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2984 [19:35:10] <somiaj> le_pig: not really, I think the prefered
method is take the example preseed and modify it to your needs.
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2987 [19:35:49] <le_pig> somiaj: I appreciate the reply. Looks
like I've got a fun weekend project then. :)
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3001 [19:43:53] <zh1> centrx, i was using testdisk previously to
recover some files
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3028 [19:53:03] <Hijiri> Why was krita included in jessie but
isn't in stretch?
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3041 [19:58:58] <somiaj> Hijiri: looks like it hasn't been
upgraded/matained since then and there was problably some bug thta
removed it.
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3046 [19:59:36] <somiaj> ahh seems like the Calligra source
changed, one second
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3052 [20:01:36] <somiaj> Hijiri:
replaced-url
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3054 [20:01:42] <somiaj> or not it will be ready by that time.
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3057 [20:02:20] <Cryp71c> Trying to install something via apt-get
that doesn't have any sources (msodbcsql) available; it has a
eula that I'm trying to bypass by using debconf-set-selections,
and I did that correctly but the eula still pops up.
3058 [20:02:31] <Cryp71c> Is there anyway to figure out what else
its looking at which causes that eula to pop up?
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3060 [20:03:06] <somiaj> it could be a post/pre install script.
Usually non-free software won't let you bypass its eula
3061 [20:03:53] <Cryp71c> This is free, but its preview software
so I had to add a source manually.
3062 [20:03:53] <somiaj> I also do not see that package in debian,
is this third party? if so I would direct questions about their
package to the person who makes it, including if there is a way to
automate the signing of the eula
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3065 [20:04:09] <somiaj> free as in DSFG free? shouldn't need
a eula for that.
3066 [20:04:13] <Cryp71c> sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=amd64]
replaced-url
3067 [20:04:40] <Cryp71c> Here is MS's post about it on their
blog (technical preview):
replaced-url
3068 [20:05:00] <somiaj> so ask the creater of this software
(appears non-free to me), we don't support thrid party software
here.
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3070 [20:05:27] <Cryp71c> Already have, was just curious if there
was a way to automate the agreement of the EULA so I can have it
install via a script.
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3072 [20:05:48] <Cryp71c> I thought debconf-set-selections was
what I needed, but indeed it is not.
3073 [20:05:50] <greycat> Run the script in a terminal so it can
prompt the end user.
3074 [20:06:02] <Cryp71c> greycat, its part of a VM provisioning
script (right in the middle)
3075 [20:06:14] <greycat> Let the end user comply with the license
by typing stupid shit.
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3077 [20:06:23] <somiaj> it is more likely the post/pre install
scripts requiring the prompt, not debconf, but anyways ask the
person who created the package.
3078 [20:06:32] <Cryp71c> will do.
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3080 [20:07:01] <somiaj> if they just gave you the source -- oh
wait non-free -- you could just look at it.
3081 [20:07:16] <jelly> Cryp71c: where are you getting this
package from?
3082 [20:07:30] <greycat> 14:04 Cryp71c> sh -c 'echo
"deb [arch=amd64]
replaced-url
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3084 [20:07:58] <jelly> and how are they significantly better than
freetds drivers?
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3089 [20:09:44] <Cryp71c> jelly, I've attempted to use
freetds a handful of times with enterprise php applications and have
repeatedly run into issues with various functionality, transactions
or insertion ids or other weird things; its been a year or so since
I last gave it a try.
3090 [20:10:42] <jelly> we've been using freetds for more
than 15 years now
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3094 [20:11:16] <mrrtump> debian is kicking ass
3095 [20:11:20] <mrrtump> Im liking it!
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3097 [20:11:25] <mrrtump> vlc freezes a bit
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3099 [20:11:33] <crash_> mpv to the rescue!
3100 [20:11:34] <jelly> but okay, php is often problematic,
prefixed with "enterprise" doesn't make it better
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3102 [20:11:37] <mrrtump> abiword and chrome farked on testing
here
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3104 [20:11:49] <jelly> mrrtump: are you using testing?
3105 [20:11:53] <mrrtump> yep
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3107 [20:12:04] <jelly> then if you have issues,
3108 [20:12:06] <Cryp71c> jelly, thanks, I appreciate it though
3109 [20:12:07] <mrrtump> archlinux is just too painful to install
now
3110 [20:12:07] <jelly> !debian-next
3111 [20:12:08] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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3113 [20:12:33] <mrrtump> i cant get into debian next
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3115 [20:12:41] <greycat> It's on OFTC.
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3117 [20:12:59] <jelly> different irc network
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3136 [20:19:01] <Howdy> hey guys..
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3138 [20:19:24] <Howdy> hey guys 04:00.0 VGA compatible
controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Hawaii XT [Radeon
R9 290X] when I run this command my Debian Jessie frezzzzes
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3142 [20:19:43] <SerajewelKS> Howdy: what command? lspci?
3143 [20:19:56] <Howdy> oh +
3144 [20:20:15] <Howdy> input echo 0000:08:00.0 >
/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:08:00.0/driver/unbind
3145 [20:20:19] <Howdy> but 08 is 04
3146 [20:20:29] <greycat> So... don't type that.
3147 [20:20:46] <Howdy> what I gotta type Gurus
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3150 [20:21:06] <greycat> Why did you type that? What did you
expect it to do?
3151 [20:21:07] <SerajewelKS> that depends on what you're
trying to do?
3152 [20:21:46] <Howdy> echo 0000:04:00.0 >
/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:04:00.0/driver/unbind
3153 [20:21:50] <deup> hi everyone! happy friday!
3154 [20:22:03] <Howdy> unbind the VGA from Dom0 so I can assign
it to DOMu
3155 [20:22:20] <boxrick1> How does bond-master in the interfaces
differ to bond-slaves in the bond itself? Since one seems to work
and the other not
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3157 [20:23:09] <jelly> boxrick1: they're two different
things. What do you mean?
3158 [20:23:20] <zykotick9> greycat: <sidenote> your
"So... don't type that." made me laugh out loud -
thanks.
3159 [20:23:20] <boxrick1> That explains why then :)
3160 [20:23:35] <boxrick1> So how does bond-slaves work then ?
3161 [20:23:52] <Howdy> yo don't out loud laughing help this
peon outr
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3163 [20:23:54] <Howdy> please
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3166 [20:24:22] <Howdy> my Debian Brothers & sisters
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3169 [20:24:53] <jelly> Howdy: rhetorics don't help much in
here, try to keep to tech
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3173 [20:25:27] <Howdy> :-( Meanies
3174 [20:25:58] <deup> whats the best IDE for me to make
interactive GUIs with debian?
3175 [20:26:05] <SerajewelKS> !best
3176 [20:26:06] <dpkg> Best for what? Please define what you mean
by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin!
Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play!
Anyone for Tennis!
3177 [20:26:11] <jelly> Howdy: if noone comments on your issue, it
means they probably do not know so extra pleading does not help
3178 [20:26:11] <greycat> I asked dpkg what dom0 and domu are and
he doesn't know either. Sorry.
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3182 [20:26:36] <SerajewelKS> Howdy: you might have better luck
asking in a xen-specific channel
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3184 [20:26:59] <jelly> greycat: in Xen parlance, dom0 is the host
(-ish) and domU is a guest (VM) or so
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3187 [20:27:36] <greycat> I swear, you guys invented this vm shit
just because were bored one day with things just working and you
needed some new breaking stuff to fix.
3188 [20:27:41] <Howdy> ok, already asked in XEN...
3189 [20:27:53] <boddax> hi got problem installing on mobo asus
m5a99x efi grub install error
3190 [20:27:55] <jelly> greycat: and you're catching on that
just now?
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3193 [20:28:21] <SerajewelKS> deup: to address your question, that
depends on what programming languages you know. IDEs don't do
everything for you.
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3196 [20:29:25] <SerajewelKS> deup: for example, if you know C#
then you could use monodevelop with the integrated gtk# designer.
there are options, and "best" is subjective.
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3199 [20:30:04] <boddax> changed alredy secure boot bios but no
effects still remain grub install issue
3200 [20:30:44] <deup> SerajewelKS: I agree, this is partly a
learning opportunity for myself as well, I'm decent with C#,
C++, some python, but I'm also being given the opportunity to
learn on this project. So any opinions would be greatly received
3201 [20:31:46] <bootstrapninja> sorry for the off topic -_- but..
anyone knows how I could get an invite for the ##security channel?
3202 [20:32:01] <SerajewelKS> deup: honestly the only GUI
designers i've used on linux are glade (which is not an IDE,
but only a GUI designer) and monodevelop
3203 [20:32:36] <SerajewelKS> deup: i like monodevelop, but it can
be a tad buggy here and there, and it's a memory hog
3204 [20:32:59] <SerajewelKS> deup: most of my other GUI work is
building web application GUIs, so i'm using html+javascript
frameworks and not GUI designers
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3208 [20:33:50] <SerajewelKS> so basically, i don't have much
breadth of experience with linux IDEs. but i would suggest looking
at monodevelop at least, if the idea of C# on linux doesn't
make you uncomfortable.
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3225 [20:34:47] <SerajewelKS> deup: note that glade is
language-agnostic; you can use its products with any language that
has glade bindings. which is most of them.
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3228 [20:34:58] <deup> cool, thanks for the tips
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3232 [20:35:59] <deup> anyone have experience with yocto over
debian? I have a couple engineers saying to use yocto, and I
honestly can't figure out a good reason to
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3234 [20:36:45] <SerajewelKS> yocto and debian are different
things. debian is a distro, yocto is a distro-builder.
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3236 [20:37:34] <SerajewelKS> do you need to build your own distro
for an embedded environment?
3237 [20:37:36] <deup> thats what I had read. which is what
further confused me why the engineers wanted me to use it, when a
perfectly good distro exists for rpi3
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3241 [20:38:13] <deup> we're using Rpi3s to do the sensor
collections and database building
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3243 [20:38:22] <deup> that much is known, lol
3244 [20:38:52] <deup> but I can't figure out a good reason
to build a custom embedded os for something that's only to be
used in house to collect QA data
3245 [20:38:59] <SerajewelKS> is this GUI you're building
going to run on the rpis?
3246 [20:39:17] <SerajewelKS> or is it going to run on a proper
desktop and connect to the rpis?
3247 [20:39:17] <deup> I suppose, it could help... being that the
eventual QA guyss, won't know how to use linux, and just need
to see a fullscreen gui
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3250 [20:39:58] <deup> yea, the GUI should be full screened, no
ability for the QA guys to do anything but the data collection and
typing in some extra data
3251 [20:40:53] <deup> it's gotta connect to a ton of stuff,
hence why the rpi3, from touch screen HIDs, to temp sensors
3252 [20:41:03] <SerajewelKS> then C# is probably not the best
choice, considering how little ram you get on the rpi
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3255 [20:41:39] <deup> we were looking at qt5 in c++, with a
python script or two running in the background for anything that qt
sucks at doing
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3259 [20:42:34] <SerajewelKS> hope it goes well :) i have used C++
professionally, but not qt.
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3261 [20:42:44] <deup> me either :)
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3264 [20:42:58] <SerajewelKS> there are some things i really like
about C++, and there's a lot of stuff i don't like.
it's fun, but can be tedious.
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3266 [20:43:22] <deup> yeah, this isn't a video game, and
should mostly be lowerlevel data collection, so I'm not
expecting too much pain
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3289 [20:48:12] <jhutchins> greycat: You're thinking of
containers.
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3299 [20:51:51] <nkuttler> eh, containers are fine
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3305 [20:53:20] <ksft-mobile> nmcli says I'm connected to a
wifi network, but I can't connect to the internet
3306 [20:53:38] <ksft-mobile> some problem with a different
network
3307 [20:53:42] <ksft-mobile> same*
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3319 [20:58:56] <deup> welp the guys in #yocto convinced me to use
yocto to build, because my boss obviously has a hidden agenda for me
using custom embedded linux builds in the future. but thanks
SerajewelKS , I'll remember this advice anyhow, might still use
it
3320 [20:59:16] <SerajewelKS> i don't even know what advice i
gave heh
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3324 [20:59:46] <deup> hehe, conversation helps me a bunch
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3353 [21:07:58] <jhutchins> ksft-mobile: So trace the problem.
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3357 [21:08:26] <jhutchins> ksft-mobile: Do you have an IP
address? Can you ping the router? Can you ping 8.8.8.8?
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3376 [21:14:14] <MaxBord> hellou
3377 [21:14:29] <MaxBord> do working dropbox on debian
3378 [21:14:34] <MaxBord> dropbox app
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3380 [21:14:36] <MaxBord> ?
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3382 [21:15:00] <ksft> jhutchins: `ifdown eth0` fixed it
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3384 [21:15:57] <jhutchins> ksft: Defaulting to a non-working
wired connection?
3385 [21:16:07] <MaxBord> I try distros: Linux Mint, Ubuntu
everything, fedora, slackware, solus, open suse..and many other
linuxes
3386 [21:16:09] <ksft> what?
3387 [21:16:18] <MaxBord> debian is for me
3388 [21:16:23] <nchambers> MaxBord, what are you doing?
3389 [21:16:38] <MaxBord> i writing php code
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3391 [21:16:49] <MaxBord> something site
3392 [21:17:09] <MaxBord> but easy way
3393 [21:17:13] <MaxBord> for me
3394 [21:17:15] <ksft> I use a wired connection maybe half the
time. I've sorta given up on getting my computer's
built-in network card to work, and I'm using an external one.
3395 [21:17:19] <MaxBord> my site
3396 [21:17:59] <MaxBord> nchambers, who are you?
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3399 [21:18:11] <MaxBord> do we knows?
3400 [21:18:16] <jhutchins> MaxBord: There is a linux client for
dropbox that should work in debian, it's not pre-packaged.
There is a plugin for nautilus.
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3402 [21:18:53] <MaxBord> jhutchins, i know that, but dont see app
icon in gnome panel on the top :)
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3405 [21:20:19] <MaxBord> i restarting deb and i think that is
fork, in nautilus folder become folder with green arrow
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3407 [21:21:34] <MaxBord> but i dont know something
3408 [21:21:51] <MaxBord> way default notepad writer dont work
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3421 [21:24:45] <MaxBord> what is devuan? is bether debian or
devuan?
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3424 [21:24:52] <dpkg> Devuan (replaced-url
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3460 [21:40:15] <ADubhlaoich> I think I may have accidentally
removed all wifi packages when trying to remove connman
3461 [21:40:33] <greycat> Plug in the regular network cable and
reinstall them.
3462 [21:40:50] <ADubhlaoich> I don't have access to ethernet
3463 [21:40:55] <ADubhlaoich> Using a separate laptop right now
3464 [21:41:11] <greycat> Not sure what you want us to tell you,
then.
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3467 [21:41:50] <greycat> Downloading them from another system is
going to be incredibly tedious.
3468 [21:42:02] <ADubhlaoich> Well - I guess, would downloading
the packages and manually installing them via dpkg be a good plan of
attack?
3469 [21:42:26] <greycat> I guess you could run apt-get with
--print-uris or something on the damaged system, save that to a text
file, copy the text file to the non-damaged system, download there,
then copy over...
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3474 [21:44:35] <Ke> ffs. debian bts is a wall of text, is there
somewhere a location where I can create account and report a bug
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3479 [21:45:36] <greycat> !bug
3480 [21:45:36] <dpkg> Bug Tracking System for Debian packages,
replaced-url
3481 [21:45:53] <greycat> You don't need an account.
It's all done by email.
3482 [21:46:44] <jelly> well you need an email account somewhere!
3483 [21:47:01] <Ke> !
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3485 [21:47:32] <ADubhlaoich> Evidently I do still have
wireless-tools but haven't got wicd nor networkmanager
3486 [21:47:43] <greycat> (or the ability to inject
spam^H^H^H^Hemail into Debian's MTA)
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3500 [21:51:19] <jhutchins> ADubhlaoich: For several releases
network-manager has been a much better tool for wifi.
3501 [21:52:19] <Ke> gggaaaah
3502 [21:52:28] <jhutchins> !apt offline
3503 [21:52:29] <dpkg> To use apt on a machine that doesn't
have a network connection (if you have a separate machine that does
have a network connection), read
replaced-url
3504 [21:52:31] <Ke> reportbug even needs to run on the same
system
3505 [21:52:35] <ADubhlaoich> jhutchins: I'll grab the
packages for it too
3506 [21:52:50] <greycat> Ke: why is this a problem for you?
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3508 [21:53:38] <jelly> Ke: you can just compose a text mail in
any mail client, and copy/paste the stuff reportbug prepares
3509 [21:53:54] <jelly> a plain* text mail
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3511 [21:54:25] <jelly> you can also create the whole thing
manually, taking care of some special pseudoheaders
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3513 [21:54:41] <greycat> I'd recommend letting reportbug
dump the text file, though.
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3515 [21:54:47] <jelly> nod
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3517 [21:55:35] <jhutchins> MaxBord: Actually I was wrong earlier,
there is a debian package fro dropbox provided on their site.
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3519 [21:55:54] <Ke> subject is the email subject I guess?
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3521 [21:56:09] <Ke> and the rest goes to email body
3522 [21:56:24] <dondelelcaro> Ke: yes. You're better off
using reportbug, though.
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3525 [21:57:13] <Plushwolf> Hey everyone! :)
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3553 [22:07:46] <ADubhlaoich> Hurrah
3554 [22:07:50] <ADubhlaoich> My plan seems to have worked
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3560 [22:08:15] <Adolar> does anybody have a promo code for the
oneplus 3t order? :D
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3563 [22:08:39] <jelly> only if you can install debian on it...
3564 [22:09:04] <Adolar> hehe
3565 [22:09:06] <ADubhlaoich> jhutchins: Were there any particular
reasons NetworkManager is preferred over Wicd?
3566 [22:09:12] <Adolar> that should be no problem
3567 [22:09:34] <greycat> 1+3t sounds like first year algebra
3568 [22:09:42] <dondelelcaro> ADubhlaoich: in my experience, it
supports more configurations by default; it's also the gnome
default.
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3570 [22:10:36] <dondelelcaro> (it also seems to do things like
automatically switching between wifi/ethernet/bt/carrier pigeon
properly, which wicd and ifupdown don't do particularly well)
3571 [22:10:56] <ADubhlaoich> Hmm
3572 [22:11:09] <ADubhlaoich> I'll take a look at it when
I'm back on my normal machine
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3575 [22:11:41] <dondelelcaro> (if this is a machine that only is
ever plugged into wireless or one network, and doesn't travel,
it's probably overkill)
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3577 [22:11:50] <ADubhlaoich> I was taking a cursory glance at
connman as a suggestion from someone when I mentioned I was trying
out i3-wm, didn't expect so much hassle
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3580 [22:12:13] <dondelelcaro> ADubhlaoich: ah; yeah, nm-applet
works just fine with i3-wm
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3582 [22:12:29] <dondelelcaro> (or nmcli)
3583 [22:13:16] <somiaj> yea, I think any systemtray should be
able to hold it, stalonetray and trayer are some de indepent
systrays, there are also some de independent pannels, like tint2,
tec
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3585 [22:13:30] <dondelelcaro> yeah
3586 [22:14:15] <dondelelcaro> (i3bar is actually what does it by
default for i3-wm)
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3594 [22:16:14] <fiveflowerzz> I have two versions of a local file
(4GB) : a00.rar and a01.rar, there are only a few bytes of
difference
3595 [22:16:23] <fiveflowerzz> On my distant server I have only
a00.rar
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3597 [22:16:40] <fiveflowerzz> how to take the diff between
a00.rar and a01.rar locally and replicate it on the distant server?
3598 [22:16:48] <fiveflowerzz> (this will save reuploading of
4GB...)
3599 [22:16:52] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: rsync -y
3600 [22:17:23] <fiveflowerzz> does this make a "patch"
?
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3603 [22:17:49] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: or cp a00.rar
a01.rar; and use rsync just itself. It'll use rsync's
algorithm to effectively make such a patch
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3608 [22:18:32] <fiveflowerzz> but for the first comparison
3609 [22:18:38] <fiveflowerzz> rsync has to have both files
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3611 [22:18:47] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: no
3612 [22:18:50] <fiveflowerzz> so 4GB needs to be sent one way or
the other
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3614 [22:19:27] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: nope; rsync runs on
the remote too, and calculates the checksum there.
3615 [22:19:33] <somiaj> rsync compares the local file to the
remote file
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3617 [22:20:02] <fiveflowerzz> somiaj: if md5sum is different, it
has to download both
3618 [22:20:21] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: no, because rsync
will compare the checksums of parts of the files.
3619 [22:20:23] <fiveflowerzz> if this is first run of rsync ever
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3621 [22:20:33] <fiveflowerzz> oh ok
3622 [22:20:50] <dondelelcaro> (assuming you're using
--partial or --fuzzy or similar)
3623 [22:21:01] <fiveflowerzz> what would be the full command line
command then?
3624 [22:21:07] <fiveflowerzz> (using ssh maybe?)
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3627 [22:21:40] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: rsync -avyP a01.rar
remote:path/to/dir/with/a00.rar/.;
3628 [22:21:48] <dondelelcaro> man rsync; for details.
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3630 [22:22:06] <fiveflowerzz> will this send to remote?
3631 [22:22:31] <ompaul> one possible is rsync -ave ssh
/local/path/unique-bit-of-filename*
wherever@farawaymachine:/something/to/put/.
3632 [22:22:41] <Ke> dondelelcaro: spend countless hours on the
problem and configure smtp just for debian bug reports
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3634 [22:22:53] <implijer> hey
3635 [22:22:56] <ompaul> and what dondelelcaro said
3636 [22:22:58] <dondelelcaro> Ke: you shouldn't have to do
that; reportbug can send mail directly to the BTS.
3637 [22:23:12] <greycat> A normal person has working email
*anyway*, but if for any reason you don't want to do that, you
can configure reportbug to ... that.
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3639 [22:23:20] <implijer> I can't seem to be able to play
.webm on firefox. What package handle that ?
3640 [22:23:26] <dondelelcaro> Ke: assuming your ISP doesn't
block every port that was ever associated with SMTP.
3641 [22:23:30] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul what is -ave ? will it work
with sftp as well?
3642 [22:23:38] <implijer> (it says everytime "video is
corrupted" on every video)
3643 [22:23:43] <Ke> dondelelcaro: isn't 25 always blocked?
3644 [22:23:45] <dondelelcaro> fiveflowerzz: you really should
read the manpage; it'll answer all of these questions.
3645 [22:23:48] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: I gave you rsync - not sftp
3646 [22:23:59] <dondelelcaro> Ke: no
3647 [22:24:03] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: sftp I'd use scp -
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3649 [22:24:17] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul: i mean transfer over ssh
3650 [22:24:19] <somiaj> Ke: really depends on the ISP.
3651 [22:24:23] <greycat> scp is generally terrible.
3652 [22:24:32] <somiaj> Ke: some don't block it, some block
it and require you use their SMTP server as a relay
3653 [22:24:32] <dondelelcaro> Ke: but reportbug doesn't use
smtp, it uses submission IIRC.
3654 [22:24:33] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: that is what the ssh
command does there
3655 [22:25:03] <ompaul> greycat: much easier to script and I use
it for simple one file fire and we'll get one tomorrow cases
3656 [22:25:15] <dondelelcaro> (in other words, 587, not 25)
3657 [22:25:26] <ompaul> greycat: scp is the udp of file transfers
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3660 [22:25:40] <greycat> *If* your scp use case is simple enough,
then yes, you can put it in a script without anything breaking, but
it goes out of its way to break in most cases.
3661 [22:26:26] <greycat> The important thing to remember about
scp is that it's just a thin wrapper over ssh, which is just a
thin wrapper over sh, so it passes your remote filenames through ssh
which passes it to a shell which PARSES it. This breaks if the
remote destination has spaces in it, etc.
3662 [22:26:43] <ompaul> greycat: I found that if I wanted to use
scp (before I knew rsync) I used to tar md5sum scp md5sum tar
3663 [22:27:00] <greycat> You can just use tar | ssh tar directly.
3664 [22:27:02] <ompaul> we used to think that md5sum was the best
thing ever back then
3665 [22:27:20] <dondelelcaro> yeah, scp is terrible
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3667 [22:27:36] <dondelelcaro> pretty much any time you want to
use it, you should actually be using rsync
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3669 [22:27:59] <somiaj> doesn't only also work between other
openssh servers but would break if you had to connect to some other
ssh server.
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3671 [22:28:17] <jelly> sftp is much nicer
3672 [22:28:36] <ompaul> jelly: I hate programming in expect
3673 [22:28:51] <jelly> get a decent client
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3677 [22:29:23] <jelly> even sshfs is a decent enough client for
some purposes
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3680 [22:29:58] <jelly> in case rsync is unavailable on one or
both ends
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3683 [22:30:30] <dondelelcaro> jelly: heh. If it's
unavailable at the other end, I usually use scp to make it
available. ;-)
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3686 [22:30:50] <jelly> ah, I usually use yum or apt
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3697 [22:35:11] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul: it seems that rsync -avz -e
ssh remoteuser@remotehost:/remote/dir /this/dir/
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3699 [22:35:25] <fiveflowerzz> copies *from* remote *to* local
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3701 [22:35:40] <fiveflowerzz> How to do the converse? ie send
from local *to* remote ?
3702 [22:35:49] <fiveflowerzz> I searched in man, but didn't
really find
3703 [22:35:55] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: read what I said ...
3704 [22:36:03] <fiveflowerzz> I tried, but I get:
3705 [22:36:07] <ompaul> you put them in the other order
3706 [22:36:12] <jelly> fiveflowerzz: be very very careful about
tail / and rsync. remoteuser@remotehost:/remote/dir is NOT the same
as remoteuser@remotehost:/remote/dir/
3707 [22:36:30] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul: I tried your order, but I
get: The source and destination cannot both be remote.
3708 [22:36:50] <jelly> former refers to the directory itself.
Latter, only the contents
3709 [22:36:59] <ompaul> <ompaul> one possible is rsync -ave
ssh /local/path/unique-bit-of-filename*
wherever@farawaymachine:/something/to/put/.
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3711 [22:37:16] <fiveflowerzz> jelly: i use 1 file only, no dir
3712 [22:37:17] <ompaul> note I never say remotehost except now
3713 [22:37:22] <greycat> pretty sure you don't want
"ssh" there, ompaul
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3715 [22:37:32] <greycat> Oh... never mind.
3716 [22:37:43] <ompaul> greycat: ;-)
3717 [22:37:45] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul: i tried exactly that, but i
get this error message
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3719 [22:37:53] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: where is the file you want
3720 [22:37:54] <greycat> You're assuming a non-Debian client
where -e ssh isn't the default.
3721 [22:38:02] <jelly> how old has rsync have to be not to
default to -essh anyway? squeeze did it.
3722 [22:38:08] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul the file I want to send is
local
3723 [22:38:16] <fiveflowerzz> I want to go to distant server
3724 [22:38:24] <fiveflowerzz> *I want it to go
3725 [22:38:27] <ompaul> jelly: do you know I am older than the
mountains
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3728 [22:38:59] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: think of rsync as Put
THIS-HERE There
3729 [22:39:06] <ompaul> Always
3730 [22:39:28] <jelly> just like scp, only sane
3731 [22:39:42] <jelly> well, saner
3732 [22:39:48] <fiveflowerzz> I get this: The source and
destination cannot both be remote.
3733 [22:39:48] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: rsync -ave ssh thisgoesto
username@faraway: puts it in the root of the usernames home
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3735 [22:40:09] <jelly> fiveflowerzz: show the actual command that
tells that message.
3736 [22:40:17] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: READ IT AGAIN please --
note this ... you don't have a local username
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3739 [22:40:29] <ompaul> and you do have a one for faraway
3740 [22:40:43] <ompaul> EXCLUSIVLY OR
3741 [22:40:55] <ompaul> you have a username at a faraway machine
which copies a file to here
3742 [22:41:01] <fiveflowerzz> rsync -ave ssh D:\test.rar
root@xx.xxx.xx.xx:/home/replaced-url
3743 [22:41:06] <ompaul> Source Destination
3744 [22:41:06] <greycat> See, this is why I have him on /ignore.
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3746 [22:41:11] <ompaul> d?
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3748 [22:41:21] <ompaul> pscp good bye
3749 [22:41:22] <jelly> fiveflowerzz: quote that D:\test.rar
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3751 [22:41:32] <fiveflowerzz> jelly: Already tried
3752 [22:42:06] <jelly> or use unc(?) syntax //D$/test.rar --
I'm guessing wildly here
3753 [22:42:27] <ompaul> fiveflowerzz: use pscp and then pscp
path\stupidfilestystem.rar user@really.good.operating.system:
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3756 [22:42:38] <fiveflowerzz> ompaul :)
3757 [22:42:41] <dondelelcaro> or chdir to whatever directory that
is, and then use rsync
3758 [22:42:50] <jelly> the colon is part of rsync syntax and gets
it confused
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3760 [22:43:00] <ompaul> windows users grrrr
3761 [22:43:15] <jelly> people in ##windows may know how to work
around it the Right Way
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3763 [22:43:18] <fiveflowerzz> Remote server is Debian, I'll
reboot local machine to linux, it'll be easier
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3769 [22:43:52] <ompaul> jelly: I gave the pscp command to use on
windows - rsync on windows is painful I've done three scripts
for it and never again I just zip and pscsp if they need to do that
3770 [22:43:53] <fiveflowerzz> Thanks everyone!
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3774 [22:44:04] <lukkan991>
replaced-url
3775 [22:44:16] <ompaul> lukkan991: give us a clue
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3778 [22:44:36] <lukkan991> trying to get alsa to work
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3780 [22:44:52] <fiveflowerzz> rebooting to debian... see you
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3782 [22:45:06] <ompaul> lukkan991: what desktop is that?
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3784 [22:45:19] <lukkan991> mate
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3786 [22:45:28] <ompaul> on?
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3788 [22:45:42] <lukkan991> debain
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3791 [22:45:48] <lukkan991> debian*
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3795 [22:46:23] <jelly> lukkan991: what does "aplay -l"
say?
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3798 [22:46:54] <lukkan991> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices
****
3799 [22:46:56] <lukkan991> aplay: device_list:273:
snd_ctl_pcm_next_devi
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3801 [22:47:05] <jelly> lukkan991: also, before showing any
further output, please do "export LC_ALL=C" in that
terminal, that will switch messages to English
3802 [22:47:07] <jelly> !paste
3803 [22:47:08] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
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3807 [22:48:34] <lukkan991> done
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3812 [22:50:16] <lukkan991> let you know i am on debian 8
3813 [22:50:19] <lukkan991> 7*
3814 [22:50:31] <lukkan991> i too tired to fix this
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3818 [22:51:26] <chvz> o/
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3820 [22:51:52] <lukkan991> also i get cannot open mixer: No such
file or directory when trying to open alsamix as normal and root
3821 [22:52:27] <lukkan991> alsamixer*
3822 [22:52:54] <lukkan991> any clue to fix it?
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3826 [22:54:54] <ompaul> lukkan991: alsamixer is run as a user
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3830 [22:55:17] <ompaul> but if yo udon't have a card listed
in aplay then you have other issues
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3832 [22:55:28] <fiveflowerzz> I rebooted to Linux, did the exact
same command... 20 seconds later it was successfull and finished :)
3833 [22:55:32] <fiveflowerzz> problem solved!
3834 [22:55:35] <fiveflowerzz> thanks guys!
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3838 [22:57:02] <lukkan991> how do i fix my problem?
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3840 [22:57:15] <greycat> !alsa checklist
3841 [22:57:15] <dpkg> 1) add yourself to the 'audio'
group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/
alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if
available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4)
speakers on? 5) does "aplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any
installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also
<list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
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3867 [23:08:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1718
3868 [23:09:26] <elwisp> have a box with a few disks in it, all of
em was plugged in on the motherboard, one disk gets recognized as a
floppy. unloaded the floppy module, the disks it recognizes as disks
tho are showing wrong sizeo or no label etc. its 4 tb disks showing
up as 8 gb disks. I have no clue, i have tried reinstalling, and i
have tried a different controller since this box has two
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3870 [23:10:23] <ompaul> fdisk -l into a pastebin please the
debian one please
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3873 [23:12:01] <elwisp> gimmea sec
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3876 [23:13:18] <elwisp>
replaced-url
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3881 [23:15:08] <ompaul> that has got to be a new debian server I
guess
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3883 [23:15:26] <elwisp> yeah
3884 [23:15:44] <ompaul>
replaced-url
3885 [23:15:47] <ompaul> maybe that
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3887 [23:16:22] <elwisp>
replaced-url
3888 [23:16:44] <elwisp> zerobin encrypts pastes, not that it
matters in this case
3889 [23:16:57] <ompaul> and ... debian does https:
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3891 [23:18:05] <ompaul> and now please df -h
3892 [23:18:22] <elwisp> df -h only shows root which is sdd1
3893 [23:18:33] <elwisp> since thats the only disk that has been
setup durin installation
3894 [23:18:59] <elwisp> im thinking this might be a driver issue,
but i have the right driver for the controller. And i cannot for the
life of me figure out why it is behaving like this
3895 [23:19:07] <ompaul> can you please do it and I'll take
the conversation where I want after that
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3898 [23:19:19] <elwisp>
replaced-url
3899 [23:19:29] <ompaul> elwisp: I have ideas about how to solve
the issue but I want to discover what I consider the layout of the
box to be
3900 [23:19:33] <elwisp>
replaced-url
3901 [23:19:45] <elwisp> thats df -h
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3906 [23:21:20] <ompaul> so sde and sdf are usb sticks?
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3908 [23:21:48] <elwisp> Nope, they are 4tb disks
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3915 [23:23:58] <ompaul> have you tried this in gparted?
3916 [23:24:18] <elwisp> only parted
3917 [23:24:21] <elwisp> since its a headless server
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3920 [23:25:06] <ompaul> they need GPT to be used in their
formatting
3921 [23:25:20] <ompaul> fdisk doesn't see over 2TB
3922 [23:25:33] <elwisp> did you see what parted -l returned?
3923 [23:26:41] <elwisp> hmm perhaps gpt needs some modules?
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3925 [23:27:44] <ompaul> no
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3929 [23:28:45] <Prutheus> Hello! I wanna visualize the audio I am
playing. Do you know any good audio visualizers in 3d, with good,
fancy animatoins for linux? I want to bring life into the music i
hear.
3930 [23:28:51] <Prutheus> Hello! I wanna visualize the audio I am
playing. Do you know any good audio visualizers in 3d, with good,
fancy animatoins for linux? I want to bring life into the music i
hear.
3931 [23:29:40] <ompaul> elwisp: can you do fdisk -l fpr a moment
- or did you do that already?
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3933 [23:29:56] <elwisp> yeah i sent that in the first pastebin
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3936 [23:31:47] <lukkan99> got sound-test and mixer to work now
but stil no sound
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3938 [23:32:24] <lukkan99> i know that soundcard works as it did
under xp
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3943 [23:33:02] <elwisp> could this be because it should have been
installed witn non-free firmware?
3944 [23:33:47] <lukkan99> i have installed all the firware thay
sayed on thikwiki
3945 [23:34:10] <elwisp> lukkan99: sorry was talking to ompaul
3946 [23:34:16] <lukkan99> oh
3947 [23:34:20] <lukkan99> my bad
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3949 [23:34:23] <Hijiri> somiaj: thanks for the info about krita
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3953 [23:35:25] <elwisp> ompaul: made a gpt layout on sdf and
tried to make filesystem and dmesg just spews errors
3954 [23:35:27] <ompaul> elwisp: that shouldn't be a problem.
I've just looked at that - eh install lshw and give me a paste
about thise disks
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3956 [23:35:38] <ompaul> elwisp: it's bust?
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3958 [23:35:45] <elwisp> new drives
3959 [23:36:12] <ompaul> elwisp: last chance hotel not ssd before
I tell you ?
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3962 [23:36:25] <ompaul> I doubht it but I have to ask :-)
3963 [23:36:46] <elwisp> ompaul: the root disk is ssd but the rest
is HDD
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3967 [23:38:05] <ompaul> cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdf for afew
seconds CTRL C then when it eventually stops (it will have a lot in
the buffer) then install lshw and check what it says about the disk
- then run --> partprobe <-- then try fdisk again
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3970 [23:38:15] <ompaul> just for sdf
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3972 [23:38:27] <elwisp> ompaul:
replaced-url
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3974 [23:38:44] <lukkan99> only my modem shows up for audio with
aplay -l
3975 [23:38:46] <lukkan99> wird
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3980 [23:39:15] <elwisp> need to reboot it first, the mkfs just
hung
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3982 [23:40:59] <ompaul> elwisp: it has no serial number - it is
not being read right
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3984 [23:41:13] <ompaul> shotgun practice :-)
3985 [23:41:41] <elwisp> yup, thats what i figured as well, whats
wierd is that i have tried 2 different raid controllers
3986 [23:41:51] <elwisp> could be power, but i think it would not
find it at all then
3987 [23:41:58] <ompaul> who made it
3988 [23:42:14] <elwisp> friend of mine
3989 [23:42:20] <ompaul> eh ...
3990 [23:42:22] <ompaul> the disk
3991 [23:42:26] <ompaul> manafacturer
3992 [23:42:29] <elwisp> i think its WD
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3999 [23:44:39] <ompaul> yeah - I'd expect a much more output
from lshw tbh so I can't take that anywhere
4000 [23:45:13] <elwisp> must be some module missing
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4003 [23:46:04] <elwisp> it came back up
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4009 [23:48:46] <lukkan99> is anyone one hare know how to set up
audio on a thinkpad t42
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4013 [23:49:24] <ompaul> lukkan99: apt-cache search thinkpad will
help somewhat
4014 [23:49:47] <ompaul> and non free sources
4015 [23:49:49] <ompaul> iirc
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4019 [23:49:53] <ompaul> been a while
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4025 [23:51:03] <elwisp> i think im just going to have to sleep on
this and maybe reinstall it with nonfree image
4026 [23:51:09] <elwisp> something must be off
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4040 [23:55:18] <lukkan99> what packet is alsaconf in?
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4042 [23:56:08] <kotdadabong> how can i eliminate every account
thats not root, and use a gui desktop like lightdm/lxde
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4044 [23:56:16] <kotdadabong> ?
4045 [23:56:20] <sh00p> lukkan99 i dont remember, maybe alsa-util
or something like that, there's a way to find out, i suggest
you google it
4046 [23:56:48] <sh00p> this is not a good idea kotdadabong, but
if you insist, it's easy to remove accounts in the /etc/passwd
file
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4048 [23:57:28] <sh00p> mind you, there are users that are
necessary for the operation of the os, so dont go deleting
everything in the passwd file
4049 [23:57:34] <somiaj> kotdadabong: be careful there are lots of
system accounts you don't want to elimate. And you don't
want to run x as root.
4050 [23:57:55] <kotdadabong> ok thanks sh00p. i understand the
risk, however i need a gui application to autostart and utilize gpio
which requires root
4051 [23:57:58] <lukkan99> i have it install but dont have the
command installed
4052 [23:58:01] <lukkan99> wtf
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4054 [23:58:37] <somiaj> kotdadabong: is this a gui app that
requires gpio?
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4056 [23:59:47] <sh00p> lukkan99 alsaconf is an application?
4057 [23:59:51] <sh00p> i dont ever remember using it like that
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