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1[00:00:14] <gljoe> or perhaps a rock...depending on your
translations of ancient literature
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2[00:00:18] <yokisuci> gljoe: gljoe Well i don't think
anything about that tbh couse i don't know anything about the
philosophers stone. But i sure know that's there no way for
mankind to get eternal life, atleast not in this world. And if there
was, i'm pretty sure that i would want it.
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5[00:00:42] <yokisuci> that i wouldn't*
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7[00:01:12] <gljoe> yokisuci...you would not treasure an
eternity of days to spend with the one and only true love of your
life
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8[00:01:17] <yokisuci> gljoe: anyway. Time is 00:00 here, so
time for me to sleep. nighty night
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9[00:01:32] <yokisuci> gljoe: nopez i wouldn't.
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11[00:01:57] <gljoe> yokisuci..well then maybe you have not
found a true love worth keeping
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12[00:02:11] <gljoe> yet
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14[00:02:50] <gljoe> or maybe you are not being fully honest
with yourself
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18[00:04:21] <gljoe> its funny how some people say we
cant' think of a damn thing to say so we will just say....love
is love
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19[00:05:37] <gljoe> and some believe that a few have
experienced it in history...and it would still be love even if they
called it agapi
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21[00:06:31] <gljoe> or amoree
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22[00:06:51] <gljoe> etc
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40[00:14:16] <gljoe> yokisuci..i hope you do find a love with
living and striving for...something that you would be willing to
treasure for eternity and beyond
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43[00:14:53] <gljoe> yokisuci...but you might need to find the
philosopher's stone to be able to achieve that
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45[00:15:25] <gljoe> because philosophy is all about truth
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47[00:15:59] <gljoe> at least according to myth
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50[00:16:16] <centrx> Philo-sophy means love of wisdom
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51[00:16:21] <centrx> sophia
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52[00:16:51] <gljoe> centrx yes but wisdom to the ancients was
to know of the truth.
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54[00:17:26] <CutMeOwnThroat> gljoe, please keep topics on
technical questions about Debian in here… for fantasy and
deep philosophy or whatever we have #debian-offtopic
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55[00:17:34] <gljoe> centrx at least according to myth.
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62[00:18:55] <gljoe> gljoe...well the technical hurdles are
still many and quite high..so many sound problems with debian makes
me wonder if another 25 years will accomplish a decent
sound/graphics environment
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65[00:19:17] <gljoe> gljoe...but it does make some headway into
the foray at this time
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70[00:20:39] <gljoe> gljoe and technically i still cant set up
a fortran or c++ loop that can count past infinity
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71[00:20:57] <gljoe> gljoe...so that is a major technical
problem to me
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73[00:21:13] <n4dir> troubles with debian kFreeBSD after i
upgraded to jessie. May i ask bout it here?
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74[00:21:16] <gljoe> gljoe because so many believe that
eternity is a very short time indeed
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77[00:21:33] <centrx> n4dir: sure
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78[00:21:45] <CutMeOwnThroat> gljoe, that didn't mean
you're supposed to monologue on in here
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80[00:22:03] <CutMeOwnThroat> n4dir, there's also a
dedicated channel on oftc for it, though
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82[00:22:06] <n4dir> K, boot goes fast, i seem to see something
it can't write to /run/network. After login, no connection
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83[00:22:11] <CutMeOwnThroat> dpkg, kfreebsd
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84[00:22:12] <dpkg> Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists
of GNU userland using the GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's
kernel, coupled with the regular Debian package set. kfreebsd-amd64
and kfreebsd-i386 are not official release architectures for Debian
8 "Jessie" due to quality concerns.
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85[00:22:14] <gljoe> cutme...well they asked me to mention a
technical issue with debian
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86[00:22:16] <n4dir> CutMeOwnThroat: I know, but you hardly get
answers there
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89[00:22:52] <gljoe> cutme...so i mentioned the technical
problem with debian not supported a c,c++, or fortran loop that can
count past infinity
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90[00:23:37] <CutMeOwnThroat> that is not a technical problem
but gibberish… and much better suited for the offtopic
channel
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93[00:23:58] <gljoe> so people can find some quantitative
support of the qualitative issue of beyond infinity
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95[00:24:07] <n4dir> you mean me?
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96[00:24:26] <gljoe> and question if eternity really is a very
short time indeed
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97[00:24:49] <gljoe> like only the first 10 minutes missing the
rest of the entire hour
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98[00:25:12] <centrx> n4dir: He's talking to gljoe,
you're question is fine, although probably not many people know
about kfreebsd
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103[00:25:54] <n4dir> i would be happy to know of the according
logfile. Using wired, if it fails, i usually just do "dhclient
eth0" and it works. No clue what log file i am looking for
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106[00:26:14] <ompaul> start with syslog
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107[00:26:34] <ompaul> then grep the other log files for eth0
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108[00:26:48] <gljoe> cutme...you may not think quantitive
support is beneficial...but then again would you want to take an
overdose of arsenic because you did not understand things at a
quantitative level
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109[00:26:58] <n4dir> thanks, ompaul
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110[00:27:07] <CutMeOwnThroat> n4dir, ah, that was for me - yes,
did not mean you. Your question is fine… time for me for bed
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115[00:28:31] <gljoe> would you take 5 milligrams of aspirin or
50000 grams of aspirin because you don't think quantitative
issues are important
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117[00:29:14] <gljoe> gljoe...how then would you know which one
is safer if life matters to you.
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118[00:29:14] <ompaul> I see someone is making the cardinal sin
that ordinarily would be left alone.
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119[00:29:57] <gljoe> ompaul..is it a cardinal sin to protect
and preserve life...since when
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121[00:30:37] <gljoe> ompaul..i am a doctor and a doctor i will
be...it has never changed in nearly 40 years....cardinal sin or not
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125[00:31:10] <gljoe> ompaul...they will never force me to
renounce my doctoral qualifications
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126[00:31:14] <ompaul> ah you didn't see the obvious
mathematical truth I spoke to, some omega would be lost on you
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127[00:31:36] <posi> Really weird issue, this binary links fine
in release but chokes on libgtkui stuff in debug mode. What's
weird is libgtkui totally works in release and it would complain if
itwasn't being linked in. I also see it on ldd
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131[00:32:50] <gljoe> ompaul...like a say cardinal sin or
not...for me to do my doctor thing...quantitive support is necessay
so i don't recommend someone to take an overdose of harmful
drugs and lose their life needlessly
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135[00:33:20] <centrx> That would be unfortunate
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137[00:34:25] <gljoe> ompaul...you may not think it matters
whether you jump off a 15,000 foot height or a 3 foot height without
a parachute because you don't think a quantitative assessment
matters.
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139[00:34:33] <ompaul> gljoe you want to count beyond infinity
go ask Hilbert how that worked out for him, while you are there you
might like a room in his hotel.
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143[00:35:58] <gljoe> ompaul....well some people question
whether eternity is a very short time indeed or whether an inifinity
of objects is a very small amount indeed
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147[00:36:46] <gljoe> ompaul...and the technical issue..is
creating a fortran loop that can count past that infinity bitch to
investigate this....
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149[00:37:02] <centrx> Your mom is a fortran loop
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153[00:37:47] <gljoe> ompaull...well can imagine how ignorant
you would be if you only saw the first 10 minutes of an hour long
speil of wisdom.
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154[00:38:04] <gljoe> can you imagine
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155[00:38:17] <ranix> gljoe: move to the offtopic channel
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157[00:40:46] <gljoe> centrx...i think my mom was much more than
a fortran loop...
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162[00:42:34] <gljoe> centrx...for example consider the loop j =
j + 2 from 1 to forever.
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164[00:43:09] <gljoe> centrx...now how small is that infinity
since you miss all the fractions.
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165[00:43:40] <gljoe> centrx...would you make technical problems
censored on this channel
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169[00:44:32] <centrx> There is no channel
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170[00:44:42] <gljoe> centrx...could an infinity or forever
really be a short time indeed and miss the rest of the entire hour
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173[00:46:21] <gljoe> centrx its just counting past the bitch
that is the technical problem on debian
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175[00:47:04] <gljoe> centrx...and that is part of why i say i
believe my mom was much more than a fortran loop
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177[00:47:25] <centrx> I'm sure she loved you very much,
even when you did annoying things like this
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178[00:48:02] <gljoe> or a miniskirt to be lifted up ...or an
angelic voice to sing songs of love ...or a delicate person that
could feel a small green pea under 7 mattresses.
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179[00:48:20] <gljoe> centrx...much much more..than these
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184[00:51:13] <gljoe> someone who cared about the pain Anne
Frank had to suffer...and would not want any more women to be
treated like that....and much much more even than that
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186[00:53:47] <centrx> What if I told you that in your heart is
the same evil that caused her pain?
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189[00:55:00] <gljoe> centrx...i don't think that is the
truth....because i did not murder innocent little girls like Anne
Frank or even her just as important slightly older sister.
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190[00:55:30] <centrx> Have you ever hated someone?
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191[00:56:09] <gljoe> centrx...absolutely...i hate all these
goddamn bastards that stole my wife and children and murdered my
Indian wife.
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192[00:56:30] <centrx> And what would you do if you found them?
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194[00:57:07] <gljoe> centrx...well now...how would i find my
Indian wife after they murdered her in cold blood and tried to
exterminate me several times
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198[00:57:20] <centrx> If you found the people who murdered her
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201[00:57:47] <gljoe> centrx...well there is a myth of Marshall
James Anderson that might shed some light on that question
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202[00:58:08] <bazhang> this is way offtopic for here
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205[00:58:35] <bazhang> debian has an offtopic channel you
realize
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207[00:58:46] <somiaj> gljoe: do you have an actual debian
question if not please take the conversation elsewhere, though I
woudl suggest /dev/null
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208[00:58:53] <gljoe> centrx...in short i hate thives,rapists,
murderers, and people that try to tug on superman's cape and
people that try to pull the mask off the old lone ranger
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211[01:00:52] <gljoe> centrx...and this hate does not seek out
and destroy innocent little girls like Anne Frank
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212[01:01:00] <gljoe> or my mom
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419[03:02:18] <Xz> hi there, looking for fdisk on debian wheezy
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483[03:22:51] <ponyofdeath> hi, trying to figure out how to
remap a bad sector on a disk, getting the LBA_of_first_error from
smartmon tools how can i for a remap of that with dd? the drive does
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496[03:29:33] <Howdy> anybody here did PCI pass thru on jessie?
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497[03:29:40] <Howdy> Stuck on PCI Back...
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499[03:30:39] <Howdy> modprobe pciback
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571[04:04:13] <AlexLikeRock> GRUB its better
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572[04:04:16] <AlexLikeRock> Richard_Cavell,
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696[05:08:01] <AudaxNovus> I'm running a Raspberry Pi 3
Model B with latest stable Kali Linux release for ARM. System works
fine, was installing metasploit for research project, which requires
postgresql. Had to abort mid-install (hardware issue). Had a lot of
trouble trying to completely clean postresql, seemed to have gotten
rid of every package EXCEPT postgresql-common. Causes this crap, I
ran a foolproof sudo apt-get --purge remove postgresql\* to make
sure it was all gone)
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697[05:08:13] <AudaxNovus>
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698[05:08:20] <AudaxNovus> Any help would be greatly
appreciated. :)
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700[05:09:35] <AlexLikeRock> do not use pastebin.com , not
friendliy with GNU
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701[05:09:39] <AlexLikeRock> AudaxNovus,
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703[05:10:01] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock, would site would you
like?
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711[05:13:32] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock this better?
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712[05:13:59] <AlexLikeRock> no
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713[05:14:27] <AlexLikeRock> || to paste use paste.debian.net ||
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714[05:14:34] <AlexLikeRock> paste.debian.net
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715[05:15:26] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock here you go! sorry
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719[05:17:13] <AlexLikeRock> try sudo apt-get --purge remove
postgresql-*
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720[05:17:54] <AlexLikeRock> they say
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722[05:17:55] <AlexLikeRock> v
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723[05:17:58] <AlexLikeRock> Use 'sudo apt autoremove'
to remove it.
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727[05:19:12] <AudaxNovus> Okay I've done similar to the
first one, I'll try autoremove
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728[05:19:42] <AudaxNovus> Could not get the lock (11: resource
temporarily unavailable)
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729[05:19:49] <AudaxNovus> Unable to lock the admin dir
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731[05:20:40] <AlexLikeRock> do you have synaptic open ? (closed
please )
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733[05:21:36] <josephine_> hello folks, I just installed flash,
do I need to reboot?
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734[05:21:39] <AudaxNovus> No, I've not even started the
GUI since it was last booted
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736[05:21:51] <AudaxNovus> Installed flash, ripperoni josephine_
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737[05:22:02] <AlexLikeRock> josephine_, just reboot the browser
, not the PC
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738[05:22:13] <josephine_> been there, did that, still have
issues
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740[05:22:37] <AlexLikeRock> yes, flash player ITS NOT FREE
FOSTWARE
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741[05:22:51] <AlexLikeRock> alwys happen whit Flash player
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742[05:23:17] <AlexLikeRock> they eat my 100 % of my peformance
of my laptop :-(
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743[05:23:26] <AlexLikeRock> i hate Flash player
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745[05:23:46] <josephine_> Anyone else have flash player
working?
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746[05:23:55] <AlexLikeRock> i
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769[05:31:34] <josephine_> Hello all, I installed flash (yeah I
know flash sucks) I need it for school stuff
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772[05:32:04] <josephine_> I followed the debian install
instructions, restarted my browser, but still get 'failed to
load yadda yadda'
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779[05:34:49] <josephine_> never mind, figured it out. Thanks
anyways
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791[05:39:10] <mrrtump> devops is unpleasant
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792[05:39:17] <mrrtump> can we fight it?
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794[05:39:22] <mrrtump> java also needs to go
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795[05:39:33] <AudaxNovus> xd solid meme
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796[05:39:45] <mrrtump> unregulated capitalism meme
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801[05:42:34] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock did autoremove, it
realized it had to uninstall postgresql-common
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802[05:42:40] <AudaxNovus> Then it spammed that same line again
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803[05:43:27] <AudaxNovus> the one about systemd-helper and head
not found
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804[05:43:40] <AlexLikeRock> just forget postgresql-common
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805[05:43:48] <AudaxNovus> I can't though I need a proper
install
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806[05:43:49] <AlexLikeRock> let it stay in you PC
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809[05:43:51] <AudaxNovus> It
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810[05:44:02] <AudaxNovus> It's a dependency for a program
I absolutely 100% require
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813[05:45:08] <AlexLikeRock> you need remove ?
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814[05:45:24] <AudaxNovus> I need it 100% removed
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815[05:45:38] <AudaxNovus> To get a clean uninterrupted install
this time
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818[05:51:01] <AudaxNovus> AlexLikeRock any suggstions?
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821[05:51:36] <AlexLikeRock> yes,
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822[05:51:38] <AlexLikeRock> wait ...
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826[05:53:29] <AlexLikeRock> sudo apt-get -f install
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827[05:53:39] <AlexLikeRock> sudo dpkg --configure -a
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828[05:53:44] <AlexLikeRock> sudo apt-get autoremove
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829[05:53:56] <AlexLikeRock> sudo apt-get -f install
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831[05:54:29] <AlexLikeRock> dpkg --remove
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832[05:54:30] * dpkg rips the still-beating --force-remove-reinstreq
postgresql-common from alexlikerock's chest, leaving
alexlikerock in a coma.
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835[05:55:16] <AlexLikeRock> AudaxNovus, dpkg --purge
postgresql-common
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837[05:55:49] <AlexLikeRock> apt-get -f install
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838[05:55:53] <AlexLikeRock> done
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839[05:56:05] <AlexLikeRock> tell me how you go :-)
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852[06:05:22] <AudaxNovus> whjich ones holy crap
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853[06:05:24] <AudaxNovus> Am I doing
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854[06:05:42] <AlexLikeRock> lol
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856[06:05:58] <AlexLikeRock> some times its hard to remove or
Install pakages :-P
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858[06:06:27] <AudaxNovus> I still get this same crap
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859[06:06:34] <AudaxNovus> About diversions to
/usr/bin/pg_config
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861[06:07:08] <AlexLikeRock> ???
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863[06:07:13] <AlexLikeRock> paste please
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903[06:23:25] <montreal> Hi guys
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904[06:23:46] <montreal> I have a problem and googling
doesn't help
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906[06:24:19] <Rusty1_> try yahoo
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907[06:24:19] <AlexLikeRock> !ask
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908[06:24:20] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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914[06:25:27] <montreal> I was setting up nginx server and sudo
start nginx says sudo: start: command not found
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916[06:27:09] <Rusty1_> montreal: what version debian?
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917[06:27:14] <_10chik> Has anyone here had success in creating
a boot drive that is recognized by recent macbooks, while
simultaneously is able to be booted into from the Windows EFI
bootloader?
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918[06:27:19] <montreal> jessie
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919[06:27:26] <_10chik> (Debian specifically)
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920[06:27:49] <Rusty1_> montreal: try: sudo service start nginx
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921[06:28:24] <AlexLikeRock> montreal, try service nginx start
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926[06:31:51] <montreal> hmm, it works :)
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958[06:57:12] <AlexLikeRock> very good montreal
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961[06:58:25] <montreal> but still something wrong with my uwsgi
configuration
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963[06:59:00] <AlexLikeRock> i dont now about
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967[07:00:34] <montreal> I'm using this tutorial.
Everything was fine until the last step, where I was launching uswgi
as daemon in emperor mode
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969[07:01:04] <daemon> I am always in empower mode :)
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973[07:01:50] <montreal> lol :)
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986[07:10:56] <plasmoduck> Does the following command make a
bootable usb installer?
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987[07:11:01] <plasmoduck> sudo cp
Downloads/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdb1
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988[07:11:24] <plasmoduck> or is it just copying the image to
the drive?
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995[07:14:07] <plasmoduck> it seems so, but when I boot from the
usb stick on my laptop, it's showing Intel(R) boot agent
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997[07:14:35] <AlexLikeRock> change to LEGACY
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998[07:14:42] <plasmoduck> PXE-E53: No boot filename received
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999[07:14:44] <AlexLikeRock> go to BIOS SETTINGS
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1000[07:14:50] <AlexLikeRock> to change plasmoduck
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1002[07:15:05] <plasmoduck> Exotomg omte; bppt agemt omsert
system disk in drive and press any key
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1003[07:15:16] <AlexLikeRock> and change USB-HDD first
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1004[07:15:25] <plasmoduck> what am I changing?
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1005[07:15:35] <plasmoduck> change what to LEGACY?
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1009[07:16:49] <plasmoduck> Its a Toshiba Portege R700
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1012[07:19:03] <AlexLikeRock> plasmoduck,
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1013[07:19:29] <AlexLikeRock> UEFI / BOOT mode :
"LEGACY"
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1015[07:21:53] <plasmoduck> I have nothing like that in my bios
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1026[07:28:05] <plasmoduck> I select to boot from usb
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1027[07:28:12] <plasmoduck> and its doing it's thing
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1028[07:28:16] <plasmoduck> dhcp etct
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1029[07:28:20] <plasmoduck> then it exits
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1030[07:28:28] <plasmoduck> and asks for a system disk
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1031[07:28:29] <plasmoduck> wtf
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1036[07:29:56] <plasmoduck> finally
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1037[07:30:01] <AlexLikeRock> cool
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1079[07:49:19] <awal1> plasmoduck: btw, no root needed for cp
that iso
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1107[08:06:01] <k_sze[work]> Is there a way to tell when and why
a deb package was installed?
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1111[08:06:27] <k_sze[work]> e.g. some of my servers have
libgeos-c1 installed, and I want to know what installed them (maybe
as dependency).
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1113[08:06:57] <nkuttler> k_sze[work]: aptitude why <pkg>
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1120[08:12:08] <awal1> k_sze[work], apt-cache rdepends pkgname
also may will help
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dependents, even those that are not installed, correct?
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1126[08:14:46] <awal1> k_sze[work], right
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1127[08:14:47] <k_sze[work]> I guess that's useful if I
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1129[08:15:32] <awal1> rdepends just helps, as I said, aptitude
why is more util in your case
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1134[08:17:09] <k_sze[work]> Thanks for the tips. :)
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1172[08:41:53] <nkuttler> um, is there something in debian than
can play apple lossless audio files?
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1178[08:43:33] <somiaj> nkuttler: have you tried anything yet?
maybe mpv or vlc
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1181[08:43:49] <frdrwn> /msg ChanServ TOPIC #debian
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1182[08:44:13] <somiaj> frdrwn: you can also just type /topic
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1183[08:44:34] <nkuttler> somiaj: i should have been more
specific, using gstreamer.. yeah, mpv can play it :||
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1184[08:44:47] * nkuttler will just convert it to a proper format
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1216[09:05:07] <foul_owl> How do I get firefox save/open dialog,
evince, et al to not use gnome 3 style windowing crap. My window
manager is fluxbox and the windows are "stuck". xterm,
vlc, etc work fine.
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1220[09:07:18] <awal1> foul_owl: you may get what you want
removing all gtk3 stuff
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1221[09:07:39] <awal1> + adwaita stuff
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1224[09:08:09] <foul_owl> libwxgtk3.0 ?
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1225[09:08:47] <foul_owl> Hmm no...that tries to remove audacity
also, that can't be right
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1229[09:10:04] <awal1> not sure what gtk3 and gnome stuff you
"should" remove exactly but what you describe is gtk3 /
gnome related, as I minimally i understand all that
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1231[09:11:01] <awal1> I dont know if you will get it since all
your system/apps are interdependent
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1239[09:12:49] <awal1> If not wrong, firefox doesn't have
full support for gtk3, evince is built with gtk3, foul_owl
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1241[09:13:17] <awal1> and gtk 3 = gnome
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1246[09:14:57] <awal1> foul_owl, I dont know how to explain you
technically what i want to tell you, but you may have an idea yet
about what I wanted to tell you
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1247[09:16:01] <foul_owl> The issue is that I think gtk3 stuff is
deps for a TON of software
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1248[09:16:06] <foul_owl> I just want to _disable_ it
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1250[09:16:09] <foul_owl> Not remove
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1253[09:16:35] <foul_owl> Ah I'll keep digging
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1254[09:16:37] <foul_owl> Thanks
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1256[09:16:52] <awal1> vlc is built with qt , not gtk; even if it
supports it
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1258[09:18:02] <fernie> are you talking about csd in gtk3 ?
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1259[09:18:26] <awal1> I guess I'm not wrong about what I
said about vlc :D :P
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1264[09:20:05] <awal1> foul_owl: a few days ago I asked you about
which theme are you using for your flux but you haven't
answered
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1268[09:21:32] <awal1> desktop theme, not fluxbox windows
decoration theme
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1269[09:21:47] <awal1> a gtk2/3based one?
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1276[09:26:38] <foul_owl> Ahhhhh
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1277[09:26:40] <foul_owl> Ok sorry
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1283[09:27:55] <foul_owl> I don't know....how do I check
that?
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1286[09:28:17] <foul_owl> I'm not using like a
"Desktop" addon ("desktop" in the windows sense
of the word)
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1303[09:38:44] <awal1> foul_owl: almost all the apps you use use
gtk (2 or 3) toolkit, and maybe somes of theme qt. so I don't
know how you can get out of gtk (2/3) stuff
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1314[09:41:31] <awal1> install lxappearance pkg and choose a gtk2
based theme for your flux; you may kick off gtk3/gnome appearance
for apps which, foul_owl doesn't depends on gtk3
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1317[09:41:54] <foul_owl> Ooooo
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1318[09:41:57] <awal1> which doesn't... ^ :D
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1319[09:41:59] <foul_owl> Thank you!!! Let me try that!!!
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1320[09:43:01] <awal1> for sure apps that depends on gtk3 will
still use gtk3 , such as evince :P
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1321[09:43:33] <foul_owl> Ah damn
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1322[09:43:39] <foul_owl> So basically there is no way to
fix...ugh
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1323[09:43:43] <foul_owl> gtk3 is awful
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1324[09:43:59] <foul_owl> I have a multimonitor setup, and evince
is stuck on the left monitor
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1325[09:44:04] <foul_owl> can't be resized or moved
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1326[09:44:31] <awal1> "no way to fix" ? not sure :P
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1327[09:44:49] <foul_owl> No way to fix evince
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1344[09:53:26] <styler2go> Hi, i am trying to get sound output
through hdmi. Any idea where i should start?
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1345[09:54:14] <frdrwn> using pavucontrol alsamixer set output
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1347[09:54:43] <styler2go> Already tried those things
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1348[09:55:01] <styler2go> i also edited /etc/pulse/default.pa
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1494[10:47:30] <atlasloewenherz> good day everyone!
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1534[11:03:00] <Hijiri> Is Krita planned for inclusion in
stretch?
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1537[11:04:02] <Veni> hi!
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1538[11:04:05] <Hijiri> hi
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1539[11:04:31] <Trax> Hi all. I had installed in a virtual
Machine the Debian 8 to test it a if everything its ok.. make a
migration. The problem is.. that this Debian 8 VM sometimes... the
router table appears empty. The Interface is not going down.. not
unplugged the wire.. or whatever. Just the route table disappear..
and after several minutes... the route table appears correctly with
all routes. Thats why..
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1540[11:04:31] <Trax> sometimes... The server lose conectivity. I
checked all the logs.. and I don´t see anything that could
cause this clearing in the router table.
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1541[11:04:45] <Trax> Does anybody manage a problem like this?
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1546[11:07:16] <echosystm> if i debootstrap on a usb drive, how
do i make it bootable?
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1548[11:07:37] <echosystm> i know how to set up the fstab, but
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1563[11:15:07] <glitchfest> hello
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1564[11:15:13] <glitchfest> Anybody here?
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1565[11:15:27] <Hijiri> no
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1571[11:16:45] <glitchfest> DAN
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1572[11:16:57] <glitchfest> Anybody here
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1573[11:16:59] <glitchfest> cmon
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1575[11:17:32] <glitchfest> Hey
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1577[11:17:36] <HJfFun> !ot
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1578[11:17:37] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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1580[11:17:48] <glitchfest> hey
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1581[11:18:28] <Logg> !ask
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1582[11:18:28] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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1611[11:31:40] <ficek> hello guys :)
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1617[11:32:35] <atlasloewenherz> i have a quite weired network
bridge problem, this is a system with xen and i have sevral PV domUs
which works fine and some HVM domUs that works partially ( only two
out of seven HVM domUs have a working VIF ) any idea how to debug
this down?
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1648[11:39:10] <_22decembre> Hello
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1649[11:39:24] <ficek> hi
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1652[11:39:50] <_22decembre> I would like to know if anyone here
knows a way to bond an eth and a wifi iface
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1653[11:40:07] <_22decembre> while the wifi is still managed by
networkmanager
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1655[11:41:15] <at0m> _22decembre:
replaced-url
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1658[11:42:19] <_22decembre> at0m: thanks. Have not seen this one
page
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1661[11:43:00] <Mahe> Hey guys. I got a problem with cpu scaling.
My '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_driver'
say 'intel_pstate';
'/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/max_perf_pct' is 50
and '/sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo' is 1.
Yet, '/proc/cpuinfo' frequently shows values of 2.6 GHz
for each core under load - on my 1.8GHz i5 (ivy bridge) processor.
Actually, it should never go higher than 900 MHz with those
settings. I'm running jessie
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1662[11:43:00] <Mahe> with 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel. Any idea what
could be wrong?
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1681[11:51:04] <mrrtump> firmware-linux-nonfree
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1682[11:51:10] <mrrtump> amd or intel microcode package
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1737[12:17:15] <deepbluv> how to fix this error:
'[MhmdI.Mstfa@debian myfiles][bash][19:34:43]$ sdcc sdcc: error
while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory [ROOT:MhmdI.Mstfa@debian New
folder][19:24:43]# dpkg -i libstdc++6_6.2.1-5_i386.deb dpkg:
regarding libstdc++6_6.2.1-5_i386.deb containing libstdc++6:i386:
libstdc++6 breaks libboost-date-time1.55.0
libboost-date-time1.55.0:amd64 (version 1.5
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1742[12:20:37] <mado> Hello everyone :) ...
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1743[12:21:22] <mado> I'm sorry but I'm a little lost
right now. Can you please tell me what the difference between ISOs
on ->
replaced-url
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1750[12:22:29] <azarus> Hey guys! When i try to do
"xbacklight", it returns "No outputs have backlight
property" even though i've used xbacklight on a different
distro before.
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1751[12:22:39] <jelly> deepbluv: which debian release are you
supposed to have installed?
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1755[12:23:45] <mado> I'd like to install Debian 8.6 on my
dad's computer ... and I thought since it's an older
computer "mate" would be a good idea ... but
"mate" can only be found on those iso-hybrids ... i'm
a little confused though as to which one I can actually use now
though ... on a usb pendrive and or CD/DVD
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1756[12:24:15] <introom> how to boot debian8.6 into text mode ?
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1759[12:24:51] <jelly> deepbluv: pastebin the output of
«ldd ./sdcc» and «echo "native: $(dpkg
--print-architecture) multiarch: $(dpkg
--print-foreign-architectures)"»
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1762[12:26:01] <jelly> mado: first is the installer, second is
the live image. They are not the same. Use the installer image to
install stuff.
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1763[12:26:34] <converge> when I try to run skype, I get this
error: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1:
wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64, anyone knows why ?
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1765[12:26:50] <deepbluv> jelly: sorry ,I don't have access
to the machine right now
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1766[12:27:07] <jelly> deepbluv: no problem, ask again when you
do
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1767[12:27:32] <jelly> converge: how did you install skype?
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1769[12:27:58] <converge> jelly, im using deepin, just apt-get
install skype
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1771[12:28:12] <mado> gotcha, jelly ... thank you ... soooo ->
replaced-url
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1772[12:28:27] <jelly> converge: ask the deepin people then,
Debian does not come with a prepared repo for skype
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1779[12:32:06] <jelly> mado: the installer does not come with
anything preinstalled, installation is a process. Assuming you have
(wired) internet connection available at install time, you can pick
the desired desktop environment as a step in the process
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1781[12:32:52] <jelly> mado: if you only have wireless on that
machine, you may need to try the debian-installer image with
non-free firmware
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1783[12:32:59] <jelly> !firmware images
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1784[12:33:00] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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1787[12:33:25] <mado> i'm a little confused, jelly ... 1)
yes, i do have a wired internet connection ... 2) i don't
completely get which ISO then to download that lets me pick a
desktop environment
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1788[12:33:41] <mado> debian-8.6.0-i386-CD-1.iso ... comes with
GNOME
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1789[12:33:47] <mado> debian-8.6.0-i386-kde-CD-1.iso ... KDE
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1791[12:33:54] <mado> debian-8.6.0-i386-lxde-CD-1.iso ... LXDE
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1792[12:34:08] <jelly> mado: use the netinst one.
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1793[12:34:20] <jelly> mado: are you 100% sure you want a 32bit
OS?
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1795[12:34:36] <babilen> mado: All of them allow you to choose
*any* desktop environment. The images simply differ in the packages
that they contain (and that don't have to be downloaded again)
and the pre-selected environment
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1796[12:35:05] <mado> uh! ... i overlooked that ... ha! :D ...
yes, jelly ... for my dad's computer i need a 32bit version ...
the computer he wants to use at the moment is at least 6 years old
if not older
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1797[12:35:23] <jelly> 6 years old will probably be 64bit as well
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1798[12:35:38] <mado> maybe ... but he only has 2 gb of ram
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1800[12:35:57] <frdrwn> i have 2 gb ram but 64 bit
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1801[12:37:00] <mado> my own computer is about 8 years old and
close to failing completely ... i'm also using a 64 bit version
... but i thought that everything below 3gb should use 32bit? ...
guess i'm wrong then? :)
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1804[12:37:14] <jelly> mado: try the combined 32+64 bit image
(the one on the main page
replaced-url
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1807[12:37:57] <jelly> that seems to be at
replaced-url
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1811[12:38:58] <jelly> it's possible to add specific 32bit
support back into a 64bit installation, and it's also possible
to do the opposite if hardware allows
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1815[12:40:02] <mado> well jelly ... i'm still more or less
new to the world of GNU Linux ... i'm not able to do that yet
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1816[12:40:03] <jelly> but installing a 32bit system on
64bit-capable hardware is maybe a suboptimal choice these days
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1817[12:40:15] <mado> but alright, jelly ... i'll be burning
this ISO then
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1818[12:40:31] <mado> these days, maybe ... but don't forget
it's an older computer :)
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1819[12:40:48] <jelly> if you have an extra usb stick you may use
that and not have to burn anything
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1822[12:41:37] <mado> yeah ... i'll use one for my own
computer some time sooner or later ... so the ISO you showed me can
be burned and used on a usb pen drive ... nice :)
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1824[12:42:21] <jelly> my 2007 core2 desktop at work was
64bit-capable
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1833[12:44:37] <mado> what tool on Windows would you suggest i
should use when using the ISO you just showed me, jelly?
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1839[12:45:59] <jelly> !win32diskimager
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1840[12:45:59] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than
<unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can
download it from
replaced-url
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1841[12:46:00] <babilen> dpkg: win32diskimager
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1845[12:47:51] <mado> thank you ... i'll be right back
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1897[13:14:21] <zer0mad_> new canadian is hot
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1898[13:14:22] <zer0mad_> :)
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1899[13:14:27] <zer0mad_> nice jackets
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1904[13:16:14] <hellyeah> how to check which graphic driver i
use?
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1905[13:16:49] <mrrtump> dont
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1906[13:16:52] <mrrtump> just relax
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1907[13:17:02] <hellyeah> why relax? :D
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1908[13:17:02] <mrrtump> learn some programming
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1909[13:17:06] <mrrtump> time better spent
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1913[13:17:14] <hellyeah> i know some programming :D
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1914[13:17:15] <mrrtump> swi prolog is pretty cool
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1917[13:17:33] <mrrtump> think you could clone craigslist or
4chan?
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1918[13:17:34] <hellyeah> prolog is logical programming language
right
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1919[13:17:54] <mrrtump> unregulated capitalism is best
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1920[13:18:00] <hellyeah> mrrtump: are you supporter of TRUMP?
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1921[13:18:00] <bazhang> mrrtump, thats so offtopic here
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1922[13:18:08] <mrrtump> of course
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1923[13:18:22] <bazhang> mrrtump, so please stop it
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1924[13:18:23] <hellyeah> so i understand why you are high like
that :D
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1925[13:18:49] <hellyeah> okey i wanna know i am using free diver
or propeorit driver
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1930[13:20:42] <nikitasius> hi folks! can someone help with bash?
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1935[13:20:52] <nikitasius> here is problem...
replaced-url
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1958[13:29:52] <dschense> Hi everybody. I have some problems with
internet connection and static ip. with dhcp everything is working
just fine, but after setting the ip static i can still ping the
router and everything else in the network, but dont have internet
connection. anybody who can help?
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1960[13:30:25] <ImUs3r> how can i know that app is installed or
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1965[13:31:30] <avian> nikitasius, something like this?
replaced-url
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1978[13:35:41] <icebrain> dschense: have you set the default
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1980[13:36:19] <icebrain> dschense: also, DNS servers? can you
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1981[13:36:23] <dschense> yes, I did, but its still not working
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1982[13:36:39] <dschense> no, i cant ping anything outsite mit
local network
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1983[13:37:17] <dschense> iface eth0 inet static
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1984[13:37:18] <dschense> address 192.168.178.201
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1985[13:37:18] <dschense> netmask 255.255.255.0
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1986[13:37:18] <dschense> gateway 192.168.178.1
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1989[13:38:00] <dschense> sorry for flood. wanted to paste to
pastebin. wrong window
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1990[13:38:02] <icebrain> dschense: that sounds fine. please
paste the output of "route -n" and of the file
/etc/resolv.conf
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1991[13:38:45] <dschense> 0.0.0.0 192.168.178.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0
eth0
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1994[13:38:57] <dschense> 192.168.178.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0
0 0 eth0
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1995[13:39:31] <dschense> this was route -n
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1996[13:39:50] <dschense> and resolv.conf is: domain fritz.box
search fritz.box nameserver 192.168.178.1
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1997[13:39:56] <dschense> seems legit for me.
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2012[13:44:17] <icebrain> sorry not from the top of my head :|
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2023[13:50:13] <Martiini> I'm thinking of repartitioning my
drive ... is it ok to change gpt SSD drive to mbr and erase all
windows partitions ... on my new lenovo bios there is uefi, gpt ..
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2029[13:52:57] <helldorado> hi all
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2030[13:53:34] <helldorado> it's possible to backports for
some packages with pkgsel un preseed
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2031[13:53:37] <jmp_> Martiini: rather not
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2075[14:13:15] <fadavi> Hello there, i've some error/warning
in dmesg output (Ubuntu 16.10): paste.ubuntu.com/23567596/ any idea?
solution?
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2119[14:34:41] <jim_carry> Any use debian on thinkpad 430?
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2155[14:50:57] <automaton> hi, how do I know which files did a
package install?
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2156[14:51:25] <automaton> without google I mean
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2167[14:56:38] <_22decembre> automaton: why not going to see on
packages.debian.org ?
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2169[14:57:43] <automaton> _22decembre, nah
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2174[14:58:45] <TomTomTosch> automaton: dpkg -L <pkg>
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2175[14:58:50] <hwbj> automaton why not try dpkg -L PACKAGENAME
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2180[14:59:36] <automaton> thanks hwbj TomTomTosch
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2226[15:19:49] <ImUs3r> what is shorten of dmesg?
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2232[15:21:22] <ImUs3r> what dmesg is shorted with?
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2233[15:21:53] <abrotman> What?
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2234[15:21:58] <abrotman> ImUs3r: try to phrase it differently
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2236[15:22:37] <ImUs3r> dmesg is shorted word, what is it?
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2237[15:23:20] <tremon> dmesg isn't an abbreviation, if
that's what you mean
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2238[15:24:32] <ImUs3r> tremon: disk message error send go?
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2243[15:26:49] <tremon> the freebsd manual page (replaced-url
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2247[15:27:49] <jelly> ImUs3r:
replaced-url
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2248[15:27:51] <ImUs3r> thanks tremon ;)
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2271[15:38:25] <david-e> I connect via ssh to a debian Jessie
server and issue "shutdown -r now": the server reboots and
the ssh client disconnects immediately - fine. If I use the ssh
inside a virtual machine, server reboots but client does not
disconnects: i have to press enter after a while to get it
disconnected
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2347[16:06:40] <deepbluv> I wanna install a packge that have
libhid dependency.how to get libhid for jessie?
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2353[16:08:32] <deepbluv> I also have difficulty in installig
libstdc++.and dpkg wouldn't nstallit.what should I do?
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2377[16:18:21] <ImUs3r> i can’t see file name of chinese,
then how can i see it? file name is strange to me :(
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2396[16:24:25] <ImUs3r> i can’t see file name of chinese,
then how can i see it? file name is strange to me :( help me plz
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2401[16:25:48] <setuid> Other than entity encoding (%40F), is
there an easy way to support "replaced-url
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2404[16:26:15] <setuid> ISTR there was a bracketed way of doing
it, [user@host]:pass type of thing
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2427[16:39:10] <n4dir>
replaced-url
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2429[16:39:37] <setuid> "Other than..." :)
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2432[16:40:16] <greycat> If you already have a working solution,
why are you asking?
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2434[16:41:11] <setuid> greycat, Because I thought there was
another way, tmtowtdi and all that. I'll bang on it a bit. I
just don't recall the syntax.
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2436[16:42:38] <introom> how to force debian to start with
framebuffer disabled?
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2438[16:42:57] <introom> setting "vga=normal nofb nomodeset
text" in GRUB, still fails though.
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2439[16:43:17] <setuid> introom, is it doing uefi boot, high-res
grub?
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2442[16:43:52] <introom> setuid: high-res grub?
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2443[16:43:54] <introom> what's that?
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2444[16:44:17] <setuid> Like if you boot with a 4k screen, the
grub text is 3840x2160, microscopic
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2445[16:44:57] <setuid> video=vesafb:off
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2446[16:45:06] <setuid> Try adding that
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2448[16:45:33] <introom> the VM is run by qemu/kvm
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2449[16:45:42] <setuid> *nod*, ok... so try that
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2450[16:45:44] <introom> it's debian8.6
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2452[16:45:58] <setuid> Which video card did you assign?
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2454[16:46:19] <setuid> Cirrus?
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2455[16:46:30] <setuid> qxl? vga? vmvga?
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2456[16:46:44] <introom> setuid: didn't assign anything.
sudo kvm -m 256 eva.qcow -net nic,model=virtio -net
user,net=192.168.101.0/24,hostfwd=tcp::8022-:22
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2457[16:46:49] <introom> that's the command I run up the vm.
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2458[16:47:14] <introom> setuid: I am new to qemu/kvm. so dunno
what video card is assigned.
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2459[16:47:26] <setuid> load up virt-manager and check
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2461[16:47:55] <setuid> Or, just use -vga std
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2464[16:48:10] <introom> setuid: it's on a server. no X
installed. and I can only ssh into the server.
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2465[16:48:19] <introom> the server is running qemu/kvm.
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2467[16:49:27] <setuid> Right, so use -vga std when building it
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2468[16:50:08] <setuid> vga=normal nofb nomodeset
video=vesafb:off i915.modeset=0
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2470[16:50:24] <introom> setuid: set that inside grub ?
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2471[16:50:36] <setuid> Yes, or in your boot line, whichever is
easier
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2478[16:53:29] <introom> setuid: I am still stuck in the screen:
" 1024 x 768 Graphic mode"
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2480[16:54:07] <Cryp71c> Using apt-get to install some stuff in
an automated fashion, but one of the things actually opens up a
graphical prompt for accepting the "license agreement" for
which the -y flag does not auto-accept. This is a major hangup, is
there anyway I can script around it?
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2481[16:54:19] <introom> the whole command I am using is: sudo
kvm -m 256 eva.qcow -net nic,model=virtio -net
user,net=192.168.101.0/24,hostfwd=tcp::8022-:22 -curses
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2483[16:54:32] <introom> note the -curses, I've no X env
around.
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2494[16:57:48] <introom> but I can ssh into that vm.
/var/log/syslog says, "Console: switching to colour frame
buffer device 128x48"
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2495[16:57:55] <introom> so framebuffer is still used.
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2497[16:58:05] <ws2k3> im trying to compile php on debian 8 but
im getting the error configure: error: Unable to locate gmp.h i
already installed libgmp-dev on wheezy this was enough anything else
i need to do or why this is not working?
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2501[16:58:45] <greycat> Figure out which package it's in on
jessie.
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2502[16:58:52] <greycat> judd file gmp.h
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2504[16:58:55] <judd> Search for gmp.h in jessie/amd64:
liblrs-dev: usr/include/lrsgmp.h; libgmp-dev:
usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h; libcore++-dev:
usr/include/CORE/Gmp.h; libc6-dev: usr/include/netinet/igmp.h;
linux-libc-dev: usr/include/linux/igmp.h; libisl-dev:
usr/include/isl/val_gmp.h; libcgal-dev: usr/include/CGAL/CORE/Gmp.h,
usr/include/CGAL/gmp.h; musl-dev: usr/include/x86_64-linux-
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2505[16:58:56] <judd> musl/netinet/igmp.h; libwireshark-dev:
usr/include/wireshark/epan/dissectors/packet-igmp.h,
usr/include/wireshark/epan/dissectors/packet-rgmp.h;
linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common:
usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common/include/linux/igmp.h,
usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common/include/uapi/linux/igmp.h
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2506[16:59:40] <greycat> Bah. Don't know what syntax to use
to help judd narrow it down.
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2513[17:00:32] <greycat> Ah, this one works:
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2515[17:00:37] <greycat> judd file ?/gmp.h
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2516[17:00:40] <judd> Search for ?/gmp.h in jessie/amd64:
libcore++-dev: usr/include/CORE/Gmp.h; libcgal-dev:
usr/include/CGAL/CORE/Gmp.h, usr/include/CGAL/gmp.h; libgmp-dev:
usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h
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2519[17:01:33] <ws2k3> i think im not following you greycat
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2524[17:02:04] <greycat> The file is in package libgmp-dev
(probably).
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2525[17:02:07] <greycat> So install that.
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2526[17:02:14] <ws2k3> greycat i already did
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2528[17:02:29] <greycat> You said you installed it on WHEEZY, but
that you are now using jessie. Make sure it's still installed.
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2529[17:02:31] <ws2k3> im trying to compile php on debian 8 but
im getting the error configure: error: Unable to locate gmp.h i
already installed libgmp-dev on wheezy this was enough anything else
i need to do or why this is not working? look in my question
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2530[17:02:56] <greycat> See? Still says "debian 8" and
"wheezy" just as if you repeated that SAME FUCKING WORDS
WITH NO MODIFICATIONS.
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2534[17:03:42] <ws2k3> greycat i did repeat the same words with
no modifications
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2535[17:03:47] <greycat> Then you suck.
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2537[17:04:09] <ws2k3> greycat anyway i verified its installed on
jessie and it is installed and still im getting the same error
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2541[17:04:23] <greycat> Instead of repeating what we already
saw, you could paste the line that proves you CURRENTLY, on THIS
version of Debian, have the package installed.
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2543[17:04:53] <ws2k3> greycat libgmp-dev is already the newest
version. (jessie)
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2544[17:05:15] <greycat> *sigh* ok... then your build process
probably needs to be configured to find it.
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2545[17:05:16] <ws2k3> i copyed it from my terminal do you desire
i paste it anyway?
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2546[17:05:27] <greycat> That is pasting. This is pasting. You
pasted.
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2547[17:05:38] <ws2k3> okay thx
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2548[17:05:44] <greycat> I would have gone with pasting the
"ii" line from dpkg -l, but I guess this is acceptable.
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2549[17:06:12] <greycat> Figure out what you have to do to your
thing-you-are-building to make it find the header. There might be a
flag you have to pass to ./configure or something.
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2551[17:06:20] <ws2k3> greycat ii libgmp-dev:amd64 2:6.0.0+dfsg-6
amd64
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2553[17:06:23] <colo-work> you can _probably_ build PHP without
the gmp library; did you check its configure script?
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2554[17:06:32] <greycat> Oh, it's php. God. No wonder.
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2557[17:06:42] <ws2k3> greycat --with-gmp yes php
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2558[17:06:44] <colo-work> gmplib 6 is the latest major release
of the library, so that should be fine
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2559[17:06:48] <greycat> I won't even ask why you are
buliding upstream php instead of using the debian packages.
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2560[17:06:52] <colo-work> so issue --without-gmp
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2561[17:06:58] <colo-work> unless you are sure you need its
features
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2564[17:07:09] <colo-work> (unless you expect to do bignum
arithmetic a lot, you probably don't)
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2568[17:07:27] <l0llip0p> /quit
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2574[17:08:22] <ws2k3> colo-work im sure i need its features
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2576[17:08:40] <greycat> Then ask ##php what ./configure flag to
use to tell it the LOCATION of the header file.
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2582[17:08:55] <greycat> Or run ./configure --help again and read
the output more thoroughly.
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2586[17:09:20] <ws2k3> greycat i need --with-gmp=/PATH but then i
need to find out where the gmp.h is in debian
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2587[17:09:27] <greycat> judd file ?/gmp.h
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2588[17:09:30] <judd> Search for ?/gmp.h in jessie/amd64:
libcore++-dev: usr/include/CORE/Gmp.h; libcgal-dev:
usr/include/CGAL/CORE/Gmp.h, usr/include/CGAL/gmp.h; libgmp-dev:
usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h
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2589[17:09:32] <greycat> Ta da!
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2590[17:09:55] <colo-work> ws2k3, next time you want to find that
out, run `dpkg -S gmp.h`
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2594[17:11:51] <n4dir> not sure, but i seem to have just learned
that "whereis" will tell you where is (say gmp)
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2596[17:12:26] <greycat> Once it's installed on your system,
there are several ways, including "locate".
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2597[17:13:08] <n4dir> which i usually use. "whereis"
only got stuck as to me it was a funny name.
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2602[17:14:49] <ws2k3> ln -s /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/gmp.h
/usr/include/gmp.h did the job
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2642[17:35:53] <colo-work> hmmm, rsyslog from jessie-backports
seems broken; depends on a package that doesn't exist (any
more?)
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2652[17:40:15] <centrx> looks like it
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2676[17:49:24] <p53ud0nym> Hi, I'm getting an error running
apt update in sid for "Err:3
replaced-url
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2677[17:49:48] <p53ud0nym> It returns "404 Not Found [IP:
212.211.132.250 80]". What's the issue?
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2678[17:49:51] <greycat> Sid's not supported here.
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2679[17:49:59] <greycat> Sid also has no security updates, duh.
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2683[17:50:29] <p53ud0nym> :D
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2686[17:51:04] <yann-kaelig> Hi
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2712[17:56:04] <zh1> is there any way i can reverse a rm -rf ?
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2714[17:56:18] <colo-work> restore from backups
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2715[17:56:26] <AlexLikeRock> hahahaha
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2716[17:56:32] <AlexLikeRock> zh1, nooooooooooooooooooooo
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2717[17:56:38] <AlexLikeRock> hahahahhah
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2718[17:56:41] <greycat> colo-work's answer is correct.
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2720[17:56:58] <colo-work> if you don't have any, unmount
the filesystem, and DO NOT TOUCH it. make a block-wise copy of the
backing device, and see if you can use a filesystem-specific tool to
get your data back, at least in part.
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2725[17:57:29] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I'm trying
to dual boot OS X and Debian on an iMac5,1. Where should I put GRUB?
I tried putting it on sda4, but when it rebooted Debian
wouldn't load. Here's my partition map:
replaced-url
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2726[17:57:34] <greycat> mounting read-only is an acceptable
substitute for unmounting, maybe
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2730[17:59:14] <introom> setuid: qemu -vga virtio did the trick.
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2732[17:59:32] <introom> thanks for reminding me qemu -vga std,
unless the problem won't be solved.
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2751[18:06:58] <setuid> mice
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2752[18:07:04] <setuid> er nice... should document that
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2767[18:13:52] <setuid> introom, What difficulties was the fb
causing for you?
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2768[18:14:01] <setuid> and how did you inject it into the boot
args at provisioning time?
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2784[18:21:14] <dinknukem3d> hey fuck you crooked nigger dick
suckin jew sons of bitches that try to censor everyone...you
thieving, lying, murdering, raping, pedaphile sons of bitches need
to be brought to justice.
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2785[18:21:24] <setuid> sigh
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2786[18:21:39] * setuid wonders where he put the /report option
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2787[18:21:43] <Epakai> !ops dinknukem3d got lost on the internet
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2788[18:21:44] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: epakai complains
about: dinknukem3d got lost on the internet
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2793[18:23:44] <dinknukem3d> you motherfuckers need to pay for
your fuckin crimes...you got something against pig farmers getting
sick of feeding the rich fat pigs and desiring to protect little
girls from monsters like you sons of bitches
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2796[18:24:40] <dinknukem3d> you think laws should be broken and
everyone should be allowed to kill little girls like Anne Frank and
others
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2797[18:24:45] <teraflops> ./ignore add dinknukem3d
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2801[18:26:00] <dinknukem3d> Marshall James Anderson doesnt think
so....he would kill all the men that got in his way of saving a
little girl
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2814[18:30:23] <Iota> Happy Pizza Friday!
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2815[18:31:01] <dinknukem3d> you want to sit on your crooked
asses and suck niggers dicks and do nothing about people kidnapping
and murdering Anne Frank and many other innocent and helpless little
girls
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2823[18:32:56] <zh1> did a rm -rf ~ by accident so... how can i
recover user system files? the rest i have a backup
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2829[18:35:48] <centrx> zh1: You could use an undeletion tool
like extundelete or testdisk
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2832[18:36:15] <centrx> zh1: Note that you should not continue to
use the disk, except in read-only mode, or you risk permanent
deletion of your files.
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2833[18:36:28] <centrx> zh1: (that is, until you are finished
with undeleting)
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2850[18:43:34] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I'm trying
to dual boot OS X and Debian on an iMac5,1. Where should I put GRUB?
I tried putting it on /dev/sda4, but when it rebooted Debian
wouldn't load. Here's my partition map:
replaced-url
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2857[18:44:40] <converge> Richard_Cavell, are you using bootcamp
?
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2858[18:44:46] <Richard_Cavell> No Sir
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2859[18:44:52] <Richard_Cavell> Should I be?
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2862[18:45:50] <converge> Richard_Cavell, yes, its the best way
to do it
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2863[18:48:00] <Richard_Cavell> Even though I'm installing
debian rather than Windows?
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2867[18:49:44] <somiaj> Richard_Cavell: doesn't osx use efi?
In this case wouldn't you want to put grub in the efi
partition?
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2868[18:50:05] <Richard_Cavell> I don't want to bork my
computer's ability to load OS X
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2875[18:54:49] <Richard_Cavell> converge: So do I just pretend
that I'm installing Windows 7? Please don't give me advice
if you're not familiar with it.
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2886[18:58:23] <converge> Richard_Cavell, I installed it without
bootcamp, had a lot of problems, after I did it using bootcamp, had
not errors, grub was installed correct with 0 errors. If you dont
want advices, dont ask for it
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2898[19:03:16] <yogiman-ws> Hello all, can anyone advise,
according to the debian wiki if I create a USB installer stick and I
want to include any non-free firmware I can place the required
firmware files into the folder /firmware on the usb stick. OK seems
simple enough, except for the fact that the USB stick is read only
to both me as a user and to the root account, am I missing something
here or is this a bit of a bug in the documentation?
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2900[19:04:27] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: be careful the instructions
are assuming you are installing from a cd.
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2902[19:04:48] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: if installing from a usb you
need to have the firmware on a seperate usb drive, it is kinda
vague, but just use the firmware installer
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2903[19:04:51] <somiaj> !firmware images
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2904[19:04:52] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
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2906[19:05:11] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, well they don't appear
to do so, but even if that were correct a CD would be read only too?
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2908[19:05:30] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: no if you were on a CD, you
would have the firmware on the root directory of an usb drive
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2911[19:06:19] <greycat> Burned CDs (iso 9660 file systems) are
most definitely read-only. That file system was never designed to
support writes.
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2913[19:06:25] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, I thought about that, had a
2nd usb stick at hand fat32 with the firmware on the usb stick, it
doesn't see the 2nd stick regardless of when the stick is
inserted, i.e before boot or when it asks for the firmware
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2914[19:06:27] <somiaj> i.e. the firmware needs to be on a medium
that is not the install medium (which means that even if you make a
partition of the unused space on a usb drive and put it there, you
have to manually copy it over)
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2917[19:06:56] <somiaj> yogiman-ws: yea I've seen others
have problems. It works if booting from a cd, it needs to be cleaned
up as most people don't install from cds but from usb drives.
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2918[19:07:15] <somiaj> so your choices are 1) use the unoffical
netinstall image with firmware installed
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2919[19:07:30] <somiaj> 2) manually copy the firmware to the
correct place by hitting alt-f2 inside the installer and opening up
a shell
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2921[19:07:46] <yogiman-ws> ok somiaj thanks for the tip, think
the documentation needs some work on this one ;)
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2924[19:08:15] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, I appreciate your help, hope
I can return the favour sometime :) be well.
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2925[19:08:34] <somiaj> yea I think most just have learned how to
deal with firmware. I think the installer needs to be fixed so it
can use firmware from a second partiion on the installer usb or
correctly scan other places
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2926[19:08:41] <somiaj> or better yet allow the user to specify
the location of the firmware
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2927[19:08:56] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, sounds like a good idea to me
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2928[19:09:05] <somiaj> in this case I think manually copying the
firmware to /target/lib/firmware will work
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2929[19:09:25] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, ok will give that a go,
thanks again :)
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2930[19:09:35] <somiaj> or maybe /lib/firmware in the memeory
filesystem and let the installer copy it over (its been so long
since I have installed I forget the deatils)
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2931[19:10:33] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, well yes same here, but last
time I installed from CD and used mem stick for firmware. Thought
I'd save a CD and some space in a landfill this time, should
have known better.
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2933[19:11:10] <yogiman-ws> somiaj, again thank you, will go and
try that now.
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2958[19:22:34] <Cryp71c> Trying to use debconf to set an
installation parameter but I'm not doing something right. I
need "msodbcsql msodbcsql/accept_eula select true" but
I'm getting "debconf msodbcsql/accept_eula select
true"
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2961[19:23:36] <Cryp71c> Nevermind.
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2979[19:32:59] <le_pig> Anyone aware of a preseed generator, like
the kickstart configurator? I found a Google Code project called
"phelper", but it's abandoned.
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2984[19:35:10] <somiaj> le_pig: not really, I think the prefered
method is take the example preseed and modify it to your needs.
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2987[19:35:49] <le_pig> somiaj: I appreciate the reply. Looks
like I've got a fun weekend project then. :)
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3001[19:43:53] <zh1> centrx, i was using testdisk previously to
recover some files
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3028[19:53:03] <Hijiri> Why was krita included in jessie but
isn't in stretch?
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3041[19:58:58] <somiaj> Hijiri: looks like it hasn't been
upgraded/matained since then and there was problably some bug thta
removed it.
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3046[19:59:36] <somiaj> ahh seems like the Calligra source
changed, one second
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3052[20:01:36] <somiaj> Hijiri:
replaced-url
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3054[20:01:42] <somiaj> or not it will be ready by that time.
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3057[20:02:20] <Cryp71c> Trying to install something via apt-get
that doesn't have any sources (msodbcsql) available; it has a
eula that I'm trying to bypass by using debconf-set-selections,
and I did that correctly but the eula still pops up.
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3058[20:02:31] <Cryp71c> Is there anyway to figure out what else
its looking at which causes that eula to pop up?
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3060[20:03:06] <somiaj> it could be a post/pre install script.
Usually non-free software won't let you bypass its eula
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3061[20:03:53] <Cryp71c> This is free, but its preview software
so I had to add a source manually.
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3062[20:03:53] <somiaj> I also do not see that package in debian,
is this third party? if so I would direct questions about their
package to the person who makes it, including if there is a way to
automate the signing of the eula
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3065[20:04:09] <somiaj> free as in DSFG free? shouldn't need
a eula for that.
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3066[20:04:13] <Cryp71c> sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=amd64]
replaced-url
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3067[20:04:40] <Cryp71c> Here is MS's post about it on their
blog (technical preview):
replaced-url
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3068[20:05:00] <somiaj> so ask the creater of this software
(appears non-free to me), we don't support thrid party software
here.
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3070[20:05:27] <Cryp71c> Already have, was just curious if there
was a way to automate the agreement of the EULA so I can have it
install via a script.
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3072[20:05:48] <Cryp71c> I thought debconf-set-selections was
what I needed, but indeed it is not.
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3073[20:05:50] <greycat> Run the script in a terminal so it can
prompt the end user.
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3074[20:06:02] <Cryp71c> greycat, its part of a VM provisioning
script (right in the middle)
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3075[20:06:14] <greycat> Let the end user comply with the license
by typing stupid shit.
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3077[20:06:23] <somiaj> it is more likely the post/pre install
scripts requiring the prompt, not debconf, but anyways ask the
person who created the package.
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3078[20:06:32] <Cryp71c> will do.
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3080[20:07:01] <somiaj> if they just gave you the source -- oh
wait non-free -- you could just look at it.
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3081[20:07:16] <jelly> Cryp71c: where are you getting this
package from?
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3082[20:07:30] <greycat> 14:04 Cryp71c> sh -c 'echo
"deb [arch=amd64]
replaced-url
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3084[20:07:58] <jelly> and how are they significantly better than
freetds drivers?
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3089[20:09:44] <Cryp71c> jelly, I've attempted to use
freetds a handful of times with enterprise php applications and have
repeatedly run into issues with various functionality, transactions
or insertion ids or other weird things; its been a year or so since
I last gave it a try.
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3090[20:10:42] <jelly> we've been using freetds for more
than 15 years now
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3094[20:11:16] <mrrtump> debian is kicking ass
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3095[20:11:20] <mrrtump> Im liking it!
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3097[20:11:25] <mrrtump> vlc freezes a bit
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3099[20:11:33] <crash_> mpv to the rescue!
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3100[20:11:34] <jelly> but okay, php is often problematic,
prefixed with "enterprise" doesn't make it better
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3102[20:11:37] <mrrtump> abiword and chrome farked on testing
here
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3104[20:11:49] <jelly> mrrtump: are you using testing?
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3105[20:11:53] <mrrtump> yep
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3107[20:12:04] <jelly> then if you have issues,
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3108[20:12:06] <Cryp71c> jelly, thanks, I appreciate it though
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3109[20:12:07] <mrrtump> archlinux is just too painful to install
now
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3110[20:12:07] <jelly> !debian-next
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3111[20:12:08] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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3113[20:12:33] <mrrtump> i cant get into debian next
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3115[20:12:41] <greycat> It's on OFTC.
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3117[20:12:59] <jelly> different irc network
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3136[20:19:01] <Howdy> hey guys..
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3138[20:19:24] <Howdy> hey guys 04:00.0 VGA compatible
controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Hawaii XT [Radeon
R9 290X] when I run this command my Debian Jessie frezzzzes
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3142[20:19:43] <SerajewelKS> Howdy: what command? lspci?
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3143[20:19:56] <Howdy> oh +
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3144[20:20:15] <Howdy> input echo 0000:08:00.0 >
/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:08:00.0/driver/unbind
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3145[20:20:19] <Howdy> but 08 is 04
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3146[20:20:29] <greycat> So... don't type that.
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3147[20:20:46] <Howdy> what I gotta type Gurus
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3150[20:21:06] <greycat> Why did you type that? What did you
expect it to do?
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3151[20:21:07] <SerajewelKS> that depends on what you're
trying to do?
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3152[20:21:46] <Howdy> echo 0000:04:00.0 >
/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:04:00.0/driver/unbind
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3153[20:21:50] <deup> hi everyone! happy friday!
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3154[20:22:03] <Howdy> unbind the VGA from Dom0 so I can assign
it to DOMu
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3155[20:22:20] <boxrick1> How does bond-master in the interfaces
differ to bond-slaves in the bond itself? Since one seems to work
and the other not
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3157[20:23:09] <jelly> boxrick1: they're two different
things. What do you mean?
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3158[20:23:20] <zykotick9> greycat: <sidenote> your
"So... don't type that." made me laugh out loud -
thanks.
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3159[20:23:20] <boxrick1> That explains why then :)
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3160[20:23:35] <boxrick1> So how does bond-slaves work then ?
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3161[20:23:52] <Howdy> yo don't out loud laughing help this
peon outr
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3163[20:23:54] <Howdy> please
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3166[20:24:22] <Howdy> my Debian Brothers & sisters
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3169[20:24:53] <jelly> Howdy: rhetorics don't help much in
here, try to keep to tech
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3173[20:25:27] <Howdy> :-( Meanies
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3174[20:25:58] <deup> whats the best IDE for me to make
interactive GUIs with debian?
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3175[20:26:05] <SerajewelKS> !best
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3176[20:26:06] <dpkg> Best for what? Please define what you mean
by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin!
Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play!
Anyone for Tennis!
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3177[20:26:11] <jelly> Howdy: if noone comments on your issue, it
means they probably do not know so extra pleading does not help
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3178[20:26:11] <greycat> I asked dpkg what dom0 and domu are and
he doesn't know either. Sorry.
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3182[20:26:36] <SerajewelKS> Howdy: you might have better luck
asking in a xen-specific channel
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3184[20:26:59] <jelly> greycat: in Xen parlance, dom0 is the host
(-ish) and domU is a guest (VM) or so
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3187[20:27:36] <greycat> I swear, you guys invented this vm shit
just because were bored one day with things just working and you
needed some new breaking stuff to fix.
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3188[20:27:41] <Howdy> ok, already asked in XEN...
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3189[20:27:53] <boddax> hi got problem installing on mobo asus
m5a99x efi grub install error
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3190[20:27:55] <jelly> greycat: and you're catching on that
just now?
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3193[20:28:21] <SerajewelKS> deup: to address your question, that
depends on what programming languages you know. IDEs don't do
everything for you.
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3196[20:29:25] <SerajewelKS> deup: for example, if you know C#
then you could use monodevelop with the integrated gtk# designer.
there are options, and "best" is subjective.
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3199[20:30:04] <boddax> changed alredy secure boot bios but no
effects still remain grub install issue
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3200[20:30:44] <deup> SerajewelKS: I agree, this is partly a
learning opportunity for myself as well, I'm decent with C#,
C++, some python, but I'm also being given the opportunity to
learn on this project. So any opinions would be greatly received
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3201[20:31:46] <bootstrapninja> sorry for the off topic -_- but..
anyone knows how I could get an invite for the ##security channel?
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3202[20:32:01] <SerajewelKS> deup: honestly the only GUI
designers i've used on linux are glade (which is not an IDE,
but only a GUI designer) and monodevelop
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3203[20:32:36] <SerajewelKS> deup: i like monodevelop, but it can
be a tad buggy here and there, and it's a memory hog
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3204[20:32:59] <SerajewelKS> deup: most of my other GUI work is
building web application GUIs, so i'm using html+javascript
frameworks and not GUI designers
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3208[20:33:50] <SerajewelKS> so basically, i don't have much
breadth of experience with linux IDEs. but i would suggest looking
at monodevelop at least, if the idea of C# on linux doesn't
make you uncomfortable.
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3225[20:34:47] <SerajewelKS> deup: note that glade is
language-agnostic; you can use its products with any language that
has glade bindings. which is most of them.
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3228[20:34:58] <deup> cool, thanks for the tips
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3232[20:35:59] <deup> anyone have experience with yocto over
debian? I have a couple engineers saying to use yocto, and I
honestly can't figure out a good reason to
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3234[20:36:45] <SerajewelKS> yocto and debian are different
things. debian is a distro, yocto is a distro-builder.
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3236[20:37:34] <SerajewelKS> do you need to build your own distro
for an embedded environment?
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3237[20:37:36] <deup> thats what I had read. which is what
further confused me why the engineers wanted me to use it, when a
perfectly good distro exists for rpi3
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3241[20:38:13] <deup> we're using Rpi3s to do the sensor
collections and database building
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3243[20:38:22] <deup> that much is known, lol
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3244[20:38:52] <deup> but I can't figure out a good reason
to build a custom embedded os for something that's only to be
used in house to collect QA data
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3245[20:38:59] <SerajewelKS> is this GUI you're building
going to run on the rpis?
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3246[20:39:17] <SerajewelKS> or is it going to run on a proper
desktop and connect to the rpis?
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3247[20:39:17] <deup> I suppose, it could help... being that the
eventual QA guyss, won't know how to use linux, and just need
to see a fullscreen gui
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3250[20:39:58] <deup> yea, the GUI should be full screened, no
ability for the QA guys to do anything but the data collection and
typing in some extra data
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3251[20:40:53] <deup> it's gotta connect to a ton of stuff,
hence why the rpi3, from touch screen HIDs, to temp sensors
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3252[20:41:03] <SerajewelKS> then C# is probably not the best
choice, considering how little ram you get on the rpi
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3255[20:41:39] <deup> we were looking at qt5 in c++, with a
python script or two running in the background for anything that qt
sucks at doing
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3259[20:42:34] <SerajewelKS> hope it goes well :) i have used C++
professionally, but not qt.
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3261[20:42:44] <deup> me either :)
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3264[20:42:58] <SerajewelKS> there are some things i really like
about C++, and there's a lot of stuff i don't like.
it's fun, but can be tedious.
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3266[20:43:22] <deup> yeah, this isn't a video game, and
should mostly be lowerlevel data collection, so I'm not
expecting too much pain
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3289[20:48:12] <jhutchins> greycat: You're thinking of
containers.
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3299[20:51:51] <nkuttler> eh, containers are fine
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3306[20:53:38] <ksft-mobile> some problem with a different
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3307[20:53:42] <ksft-mobile> same*
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