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0[00:00:07] <AlexPortable> n-st: no, it always happens during
a netsplit, becasue people rejoin or change their name quickly
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27[00:09:23] <peixoto> hello there
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33[00:10:38] <peixoto> tell me, i saved a txt file with my list
of softwares installed with a command, in order to use another
command to install automatically these programs on my new fresh
install, but i don't remember the command and where to find it.
can you help me with this? thank you.
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35[00:11:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> dpkg, selections
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36[00:12:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> I forget how to use the bot.
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41[00:13:09] <Eduard_Munteanu> peixoto, see the "Restore
installed software" section here:
replaced-url
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45[00:14:59] <peixoto> ok, thanks Eduard_Munteanu
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49[00:15:17] <AlexPortable> Would you recommend /bin/false or
/usr/sbin/nologin ?
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70[00:23:32] <Antares> Debian have in repositoris Ubuntu Studio
?
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79[00:27:45] <ksk> Antares: did you search the repositories?
replaced-url
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81[00:28:22] <ksk> (the anwser seems to be no)
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99[00:32:57] <oluap> test
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100[00:33:14] <oluap> someone there?
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159[01:05:31] <foul_owl> Does anyone here use rhythmbox?
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176[01:13:11] <nine_milli> hey, i just got a new usb backup hard
drive sdb
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178[01:13:21] <nine_milli> can someone list the steps to format
and mount it?
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179[01:13:29] <nine_milli> it’s been quite a while
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194[01:18:35] <nine_milli> nvm got it
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206[01:27:12] <AlexPortable> Would you recommend /bin/false or
/usr/sbin/nologin ?
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220[01:34:32] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, hi, you worked with me
one week ago trying to stop my RTL8821AE wifi from disconnecting. i
was busy because of school work. i'm ready to start
troubleshooting now. i currently have debian 9 RC4 installed with
minimal modifications to the system.
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236[01:38:45] <larvallid> can anyone else help me with wifi?
after a while of being connected to wifi network, realtek RTL8821AE
connection indicator reads "connected" but i cannot send
any data.
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239[01:39:01] <glick> hi, how can i install the debian info
files?
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241[01:39:06] <AlexPortable> glick: info files?
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242[01:39:14] <glick> do i really need to activeate the non free
repo?
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243[01:39:18] <AlexPortable> larvallid: I don't know the
details but are you sure your AP isn't broken?
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244[01:39:18] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, what DE?
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245[01:39:22] <glick> yeah AlexPortable
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246[01:39:44] <AlexPortable> glick: what are info files
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247[01:40:10] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, GNOME, which comes with
debian 8 and 9. with the network-manager component.
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248[01:40:25] <Atm0spher1c> did you install firmware-realtek?
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251[01:41:22] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, also as AlexPortable
said, are you sure your AP isn't broken. Other devices stay
connected?
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252[01:41:46] <larvallid> AlexPortable, by AP, do you mean the
realtek wifi card? if so, the same problem has occurred on windows.
but unlike linux, i can simply turn airplane mode on, then off, and
wifi will work again. eventually the problem was solved, probably by
an update. if by AP you mean router, no other devices connected to
same router have a problem.
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253[01:41:47] <Atm0spher1c> glick, are you talking about info
package? apt install info
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254[01:42:07] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, access point, wifi router
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258[01:42:51] <AlexPortable> Airplane mode on and off in windows
will most likely switch the adapter on and off (to save battery)
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259[01:42:56] <larvallid> AlexPortable, Atm0spher1c, in fact,
the same problem occurs at my school. the disconnects occur on
networks that use personal, enterprise, none (open) security.
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260[01:42:59] <AlexPortable> In linux there is no such thing
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262[01:43:16] <larvallid> AlexPortable, so the adapter just
stays on all the time?
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263[01:43:23] <AlexPortable> I think yes
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264[01:43:56] <larvallid> AlexPortable, and it might help to
mention: on windows, when the disconnect occurs, some applications
like google chrome will stop responding until airplane mode is
turned on.
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265[01:44:04] <AlexPortable> So the problem is there only with
WPA2, and only there on a network without authentication?
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271[01:45:14] <larvallid> AlexPortable, no, the problem exists
with every type of encryption, including on an open network.
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272[01:45:21] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, you can still turn off
the wifi aka airplane mode
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274[01:45:47] <AlexPortable> Atm0spher1c: I think that's
just rfkill, and not actually disconnecting the adapter (which i
suspect windows does)
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275[01:45:49] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, maybe the wifi card is
bad?
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276[01:45:58] <Atm0spher1c> if the problem happens in windows as
well
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278[01:46:15] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, is a failing wifi card a
common thing? is there a way to test it?
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279[01:46:24] <Atm0spher1c> AlexPortable, is rfkill different
than - ifdown wlan0?
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280[01:46:31] <Atm0spher1c> or ip link set wlan0 down
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281[01:46:35] <AlexPortable> yes
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282[01:46:35] <larvallid> AlexPortable, do you know how i can
disconnect the adapter, as you said, on linux?
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283[01:47:22] <Atm0spher1c> it sounds like it might be failing.
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285[01:47:26] <AlexPortable>
replaced-url
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286[01:47:49] <Atm0spher1c> although i had a machine once that i
thought had a failed wifi card ( using windows )
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287[01:47:52] <AlexPortable> Atm0spher1c: also you can't
enable an interface once it's being blocked by rfkill
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288[01:48:04] <Atm0spher1c> years later i booted with debian and
the card worked fine
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289[01:48:27] <Atm0spher1c> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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294[01:51:38] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, AlexPortable, also,
strange stuff i need to ask. based on my knowledge, free firmware
for realtek adapters do not exist. and, the official debian images
don't contain nonfree software. when i installed debian 8, the
card did not work out of the box, and i had to install
firwmare-realtek 0.43 (which resulted in a slow link speed) or
lwfinger's rtlwifi_new (which allowed a fast link speed). on
debian 9 RC4,
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295[01:51:38] <larvallid> the wifi worked out of the box without
any system modifications. do you know why this is?
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296[01:52:20] <Atm0spher1c> seems rfkill is kernel software
switch
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298[01:52:25] <larvallid> someone did mention that hardware can
supply its own firmware/microcode, and since debian 9 uses linux
kernel 4.9.0, the new kernel is able to pick up the
firmware/microcode
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301[01:53:09] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, there is a hardware
switch (FN+F2 keys) which i can use.
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307[01:54:33] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, so you have debian 9
(stretch), and added non-free to sources.list and installed
firmware-realtek, correct?
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308[01:54:53] <Atm0spher1c> or you installed lwfinger's
package again?
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317[01:57:36] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, no, as i have said, i
have not made any system modifications except to install IDLE
(python IDE) which i needed to work on school work.
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318[01:58:17] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, so add non-free to
sources, update, and install firmware-realtek
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323[01:59:48] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, first i want to check
what firmware is currently installed. how can i do that? and note
that when i power on the system, it says "failed to load
firmware rtl8821ae_fw.bin" or something like that.
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324[02:00:08] <Atm0spher1c> because you didn't install
firmware-realtek
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326[02:00:16] <Atm0spher1c> so it failed
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327[02:00:25] <Atm0spher1c> kernel sees the device i believe
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330[02:01:04] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, kernel sees the realtek
adapter and it's able to connect to wifi networks (although
with disconnects). does that mean someone has reverse engineered
realtek hardware?
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333[02:01:26] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, maybe they are slowly
adding things, not sure
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334[02:01:43] <Atm0spher1c> but seems it wont work otherwise,
that's why the non free package is provided
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335[02:04:03] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, is there any possibility
that a nonfree driver somehow found its way into upstream code? i
ask because the disconnections occur more often with
firmware-realtek 0.43 (which is written by realtek) than lwfinger
rtlwifi_new
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337[02:04:26] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, 0.43 is very old
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340[02:04:58] <larvallid> now adding nonfree, updating, and
installing...
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343[02:05:53] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, okay. note: line should
read non-free
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346[02:06:16] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, yeah i checked with the
wiki and realized that. thanks for pointing it out.
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347[02:06:24] <Atm0spher1c> great
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348[02:06:36] <Atm0spher1c> thanks for reading wiki :)
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349[02:07:21] <foul_owl> Does anyone here use rhythmbox?
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351[02:08:41] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, the bug /just/ occurred
while running "apt-get update". for a few seconds, the
wifi status indicator became a white square and the text which
usually reads "Not connected" or the name of the wifi
network became blank. a few seconds later, it went back to normal.
and a few seconds later, it became a white square and blank text
again. then, to "Not connected", and back to normal icon
and text now. however,
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352[02:08:41] <larvallid> all traffic and pings don't go
through! (this is on debian 9 rc4!)
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355[02:09:20] <Atm0spher1c> how did you install? can you connect
with ethernet?
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356[02:09:23] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, ping got stuck for a
while, but i left it sitting there. now it's repeatedly saying
"ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available"
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358[02:09:37] <larvallid> does the buffer space thing tell you
anything about it?
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359[02:09:50] <Atm0spher1c> yeah, that's not very reliable
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360[02:09:54] <Atm0spher1c> :D
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361[02:10:54] <Atm0spher1c> otherwise download the package on
another machine. then dpkg -i package.deb
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364[02:12:30] <xp_> My Jessie box no longer connects to the
internet. I've searched the web and all I could find was uber
complicated kernel stuff I did not messed with. Can somebody give a
pointer?
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366[02:12:41] <larvallid> i'm going to reboot, turn off
wifi in network-manager, and use ethernet
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367[02:12:51] <xp_> It's all over the place: via-rhine
0000:00:08.0 eth0: Transmit timed out, ststus ffff, PHY status fff,
reseting...
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368[02:12:53] <xp_> via-rhine 0000:00:08.0 eth0: Reset not
complete yet. Trying harder
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369[02:12:54] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, okay
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372[02:13:18] <VentGrey> Hello world
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374[02:13:40] <VentGrey> Is anyone here using Debian Stretch
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375[02:13:58] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, it no longer connects? what
changed?
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376[02:15:07] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: Nothing, really. This is a
headless system that I don't use very often. Today I turned it
on and it didn't respond to SSH request. Connected a screen an
got this surprize
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382[02:17:00] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: During boot I got to see in the
kernel messages something similar to what it shows when it panics
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383[02:17:04] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, headless vm? some pointers -
try ping, sudo ss -aptun | column -t, resolv.conf,
/etc/network/interfaces, check that ssh is running.
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388[02:18:16] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: 'vm' as in
'Virtual Machine'? No, it's a physical computer on
the local network
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389[02:18:23] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: Ping fails, from it and to it
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391[02:18:42] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, done. i've disabled
wifi and bluetooth, updated, and installed firmware-realtek. it
updated the initial ramdisk. no errors. reboot now?
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395[02:20:03] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, honestly, i think you can
try to run it, but i don't use gnome, and do things more low
level. If it doesnt work, sure, reboot.
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398[02:20:56] <larvallid> ok, now turning on wifi and connecting
to network through network-manager.
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402[02:21:44] <Saar> just reboot, fixes 90% of problems ;-)
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403[02:21:48] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, look at ip a, or ifconfig, does
the device get an ip? is the network up? you're not running
xorg are you?
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404[02:22:15] <Atm0spher1c> xp_,
replaced-url
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406[02:22:39] <xp_> "sudo ss -aptun | column -t" says
something about port 22. sshd, LISTEN
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408[02:23:07] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, yeah so looks like ssh is
running. sudo service ssh status also helps
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412[02:24:47] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: sudo service ssh status says
it's running
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413[02:25:39] <Atm0spher1c> okay, make sure the network is up,
ethernet is plugged in and all that. wiki is helpful too
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414[02:26:08] <larvallid> problem occurs exactly as described
before installing firmware-realtek. now rebooting and testing some
more.
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415[02:26:28] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: ifconfig says
"addr:192.168.1.4"
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418[02:27:18] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, what DE?
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419[02:27:43] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: No Desktop Enviroment, headless
Debian Jessie
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422[02:28:36] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: The cable is plugged
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424[02:28:58] <uxfi> I do foul_owl
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425[02:29:22] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, okay, pastebin these - ip a,
dmesg | grep -i YOUR_DEVICE_HERE, cat /etc/network/interfaces, cat
/etc/resolv.conf
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427[02:29:42] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: Would the device be
"eth0"?
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428[02:29:54] <dirac1> why people from usa watch WWE?.
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429[02:30:05] <dirac1> Wront chat, my bad.
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433[02:31:25] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, maybe, the device that should
be getting the ip address
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451[02:39:22] <xp_> dmesg:
replaced-url
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452[02:39:24] <xp_> ip:
replaced-url
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453[02:39:26] <xp_> resolv.conf: "nameserver
192.168.1.1"
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454[02:39:36] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: Here it is ^
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456[02:40:46] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: I've forgotten interfaces.
I'll go grab it
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461[02:41:22] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, sudo ifdown eth0
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462[02:41:27] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, sudo ifup eth0
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464[02:41:39] <Atm0spher1c> try to ping
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465[02:42:04] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: sudo ifdown eth0 says nothing
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468[02:42:14] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, okay keep going
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469[02:42:26] <xp_> sudo ifup eth0 says the line you got on
dmesg
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470[02:42:41] <xp_> "eth0: Reset not complete yet. Trying
harder"
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471[02:43:01] <xp_> via-rhine 0000:00:08.0 before all that
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472[02:43:02] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, rebooted. network
disconnects almost immediately after loading a few webpages, but
icon and status text remain as if it was still connected. ping says
"From <laptop's internal ip> icmp_seq=1 Destination
Host Unreachable". wifi works again if i turn it off and on in
network-manager. (the on/off slider takes a long time to respond
after clicking, and it takes a long time to turn the adapter off.)
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473[02:43:02] <larvallid> network-manager crashed and restarted
once. the shortcut for network-manager has disappeared from the
upper-right corner menu but wifi still works after turning the
switch off and on.
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474[02:43:21] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, okay, look at interfaces. also
have you tried to reboot, just wondering if anything changes?
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476[02:43:42] <nine_milli> .
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477[02:43:43] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, strange. so it work good
now?
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478[02:44:07] <Atm0spher1c> the wifi that is
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481[02:44:59] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, no, it's working
worse than on debian 8. as i said, it disconnects after a few
webpages. it'll work again after i toggle the network-manager
switch off and then on. this isn't practical.
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483[02:46:14] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, what is dmesg telling you
now?
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485[02:47:28] <lxtemp> hi, I'm trying to decide whether to
go with debian testing or ubuntu for my desktop. I do have some
linux experience, but I prefer when things just work, but I also
don't want to wait forever for new software versions. Are there
any major things I should be aware of when I decide?
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488[02:48:41] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: Seems like I've ovewritten
/etc/network/interfaces while trying to get its contents. Oops
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489[02:48:49] <xp_> Rebooting did no good
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491[02:49:24] <Atm0spher1c> lxtemp, you should know the command
line well, and what to do if something breaks. If you don't run
bloated DE, testing, even sid worked for me without any problems.
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492[02:49:55] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, make a new one.
replaced-url
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493[02:51:17] <lxtemp> Atm0spher1c, I prefer GUI but can use the
command line if necessary - I just prefer things to not break. Can I
run a Debian testing system for a couple of years without
reinstalling it, including when a new release is made?
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494[02:51:37] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: I had setup static IP before in
this system, in case that's related to the problem
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495[02:51:38] <Atm0spher1c> lxtemp, yes, it just keeps going
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496[02:51:40] <at0m> lxtemp: if debian testing were stable, it
would be stable
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497[02:52:19] <Atm0spher1c> lxtemp, what DE you run?
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498[02:52:23] <at0m> things breaking comes with the testing.
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501[02:52:37] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, probably not, that wiki will
goes over static IP
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502[02:52:47] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, there is an error about
tpm_crb not being able to allocate memory, but that is probably
related to the Trusted Platform Module (used by microsoft bitlocker
disk encryption). near the bottom i have
"gnome-control-c[1844]: segfault at l ip 000055flelc72a4c sp
00007fffb6492340 error 4 in
gnome-control-center[55flelb4d000+39d000]". the last two lines
are "asus_wmi: Unknown key cf pressed \n proc_thermal
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503[02:52:47] <larvallid> 0000:00:04.0: Unsupported event
[0x84]"
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504[02:53:01] <lxtemp> at0m, well, I've given up on finding
an operating system that actually works reasonably well (i.e.
doesn't have month-to-year-old software but also doesn't
break), I'm just trying to find the one that will cause me to
smash the smallest number of keyboards
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505[02:53:13] <lxtemp> Atm0spher1c, probably going to go with
cinnamon
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506[02:53:21] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, i just ran dmesg again.
the line with "proc_thermal" is repeated, 189 seconds
later.
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508[02:53:36] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: I suppose I'll have that
in the interfaces file:
replaced-url
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510[02:53:51] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, i mean something like -
dmesg | grep -i wlan0
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511[02:53:57] <lxtemp> gnome is too bloated and gimmicky, and
the more basic ones are too often majorly broken (like
"can't properly drag and drop" broken)
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514[02:54:39] <Atm0spher1c> lxtemp, In your case, I would run
debian stable and testing. stable as a backup machine, or dual boot
it.
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515[02:54:41] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: Do you suggest I try to swap
the cable with the one on my main computer?
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516[02:55:00] <at0m> lxtemp: unexpected behaviour is broken. not
meaning to have such option to drag and drop is not.
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517[02:55:06] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, running that, the only
result returned is "rtl8821ae 0000:03:00.0 wlp3s0: renamed from
wlan0". (on debian 9 and ubuntu, they changed network adapters
to names that are impossible to remember)
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518[02:55:30] <Atm0spher1c> lxtemp, ppl are always saying,
things will break!. I ran debian testing for almost 2 years without
anything going wrong. Running awesome window manager.
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519[02:56:03] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, the device is wlp3s0 -
dmesg | grep wlp3s0
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523[02:57:11] <lxtemp> Atm0spher1c, yeah, I know. If things
break once a year, I can recover - worst case I boot of some live
media, create an updated one, recover my data, and nuke the box from
orbit. I just don't want to spend time wrangling my OS instead
of getting things done. That's the reason microsoft finally
convinced me to switch to linux...
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525[02:57:41] <Atm0spher1c> lxtemp, just look at apt logs, go
into apt cache and dpkg -i oldversion.dpkg
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527[02:58:13] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, i will paste into #flood
in a sec
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530[02:58:32] <Atm0spher1c> lxtemp, lmao, that is why i switched
from windows years ago. Dev on windows was a pia
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532[02:58:45] <Atm0spher1c> lxtemp, having to reboot everyday,
sometimes twice
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533[02:59:21] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, no, use a pastebin
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534[02:59:30] <lxtemp> Atm0spher1c, oh no. My box reboots once
or twice a month, and gets reinstalled whenever the hardware dies
(that samsung has been surprisingly sturdy, must be 6 years now)
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535[02:59:53] <lxtemp> but by now that thing is reaching even my
standards for "no longer usable"
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536[03:01:04] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c,
replaced-url
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537[03:01:40] <xp_> Swapping cables BRB
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540[03:04:10] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, you're using ipv6?
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543[03:04:43] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, nope, completely ipv4 on
LAN
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545[03:05:04] <Dagger> if you dare suggest "disable
it"...
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546[03:05:32] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, well do some searching on
what you have in those logs
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547[03:05:49] <Atm0spher1c> you'll probably have to take it
from here
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548[03:06:01] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, ok
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554[03:09:05] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, tomorrow i will install
the proprietary OS and see if i can reproduce the problem on there.
i might have to make a choice to either use nonfree or go full rms
and only use ethernet... do you have any recommendations for
external USB wifi adapters that work on linux?
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555[03:09:11] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid,
replaced-url
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556[03:09:19] <simbalion`> upgraded to stretch and now ssh
won't connect: ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection
reset by peer
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557[03:10:21] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, also, you have
wpasupplicant installed of course right?
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559[03:10:37] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, do i check with apt-get
install wpasupplicant?
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563[03:11:02] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, dpkg -l | grep package is
fast
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565[03:11:10] <larvallid> checking..
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567[03:11:51] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, i have a micro usb edimax
which is realtek and it works. honestly a lot of them are supported
these days. maybe find one with free firmware
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570[03:12:34] <lxtemp> thanks for the help, I think I'll
just try both out one more time!
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572[03:13:00] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: So I've swapped cables. In
the proccess I could ping google.com for a short period of time,
then it stopped working again. Ain't that interesting?
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574[03:13:20] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, wpasupplicant 2:2.4-1 is
installed. what firmware are you using on your usb adapter?
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575[03:13:37] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, yes. sounds like it might be
more than just debian
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576[03:13:58] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, firmware-realtek of
course
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577[03:14:24] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: Network adapter? Internet
router?
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578[03:14:34] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, which version of debian?
and you said you don't use gnome network-manager; what do you
use?
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579[03:14:50] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, no clue, i have no way to test
that
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581[03:15:33] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: Ok. Thank you for your time and
patience
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582[03:15:42] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, np
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584[03:16:25] <xp_> Atm0spher1c: Do you want me to report you my
findings later?
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585[03:16:49] <simbalion`> can anyone help me with that ssh
error?
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586[03:16:57] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, I just use a window
manager. I configure /etc/network/interfaces, and just do ifup
interface. I used the usb wifi on jessie, and recently used it on
stretch, worked great.
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588[03:17:40] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, or I have it connect
automatically if set in the config file
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589[03:18:13] <Atm0spher1c> xp_, no thanks
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592[03:18:17] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, and you can use it with
firefox and other programs?
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595[03:18:49] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, yes, once it connects,
everything works
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603[03:21:03] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, actually use it on a pi
with kodi :)
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604[03:21:07] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, i've actually used
other realtek adapters on linux and they've worked fine, and
you said you're using a realtek chip. before i buy an adapter
or laptop, if i know it has a realtek adapter, what's the best
way to know whether it will work on linux? because it seems that
some realtek adapters will work, while others won't.
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605[03:21:30] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, reviews, searching
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607[03:22:02] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, ok. do i need to be wary
when buying intel, ralink, or qualcomm atheros adapters? because
i've heard those have good support on linux.
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609[03:22:12] <Atm0spher1c> very often someone says
"installed linux" these days
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610[03:22:59] <Atm0spher1c> I think the latest, just released
stuff might often not be supported yuet
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615[03:25:10] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, FCC documents show the
user manual for RTL8821AE came out in january 2013, and
certification came out in august 2015. how slow is linux hardware
support?
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616[03:25:31] <Atm0spher1c> lol, honestly, maybe the thing is
failing?
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618[03:25:52] <Atm0spher1c> or if you dig more, you might find
solution, maybe some bad bug.
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619[03:26:33] <larvallid> is there a way to test whether
it's failing? (i can install a proprietary OS if necessary)
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621[03:26:50] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, firmware-realtek includes
firmware for 8821AE
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625[03:27:51] <Atm0spher1c> buy the same exact card?
that'll be the test :)
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626[03:29:18] <Atm0spher1c> is it old? you mentioned windows had
the same problem, so...
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627[03:29:21] <simbalion`> can anyone help me with that ssh
error?
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628[03:29:48] <Atm0spher1c> simbalion`, what ssh error? maybe
ask #linux.
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629[03:29:55] <Atm0spher1c> simbalion`, ##linux
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630[03:29:57] <simbalion`> upgraded to stretch and now ssh
won't connect: ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection
reset by peer
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632[03:30:10] <Atm0spher1c> simbalion`, you using a key?
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633[03:30:33] <simbalion`> tried with and without
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637[03:31:28] <Atm0spher1c> simbalion`, can you explain the
scenario?
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638[03:31:33] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, no, the laptop is just
one month past the manufacturer's 1 year warranty. ><
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640[03:31:53] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, heh, that's when
they get ya.
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642[03:32:05] <Atm0spher1c> honestly not sure though
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646[03:33:06] <nine_milli> is debian faster than redhat?
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647[03:33:14] <dvs> ???
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649[03:33:27] <simbalion`> Atm0spher1c: I upgraded from jessie
to stretch and ssh broke.
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650[03:33:40] <simbalion`> I did a reboot
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651[03:33:50] <Atm0spher1c> simbalion`, yes, but connecting from
where to where
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655[03:34:38] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, ok, well, i /did/ create
recovery media before wiping the preinstalled OS, so i will install
windows 10 on there and then i will know for certain whether
it's linux or hardware to blame. thanks for the help. i'm
going to disconnect now, bye
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656[03:34:56] <Atm0spher1c> okay gl
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657[03:35:02] <simbalion`> Atm0spher1c: my workstation to a
server
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658[03:35:19] <larvallid> thanks, 73
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660[03:35:37] <Atm0spher1c> simbalion`, and the server is
upgraded to stretchh?
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661[03:35:43] <simbalion`> Atm0spher1c: both are actually
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666[03:36:53] <Atm0spher1c> simbalion`, did you do any
searching?
replaced-url
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668[03:37:05] <simbalion`> Atm0spher1c: yep found nothing
useful.
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669[03:38:08] <Eduard_Munteanu> simbalion`, use ssh -v to see
what happens
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671[03:38:28] <Atm0spher1c> simbalion`, interesting, lots of
useful stuff just on that link
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672[03:38:36] <simbalion`> Ah interesting, I can connect from
the server to the server
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678[03:40:31] <simbalion`> Also mysql and fail2ban both failed
to upgrade properly
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680[03:40:49] <simbalion`> Atm0spher1c: thanks for that link, it
didn't turn up in my search.
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690[03:48:03] <simbalion`> I'm able to connect from one of
my other servers just not my workstation. Should be able to fix it
on my own from here, I thought the sshd service was broken but
that's clearly not it
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691[03:48:09] <simbalion`> Thanks for the help
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764[04:36:47] <Atm0spher1c> where is the home env variable set
by default?
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768[04:38:36] <dvs> Atm0spher1c, why? You want to set it for a
particular user?
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771[04:40:20] <Atm0spher1c> I'm just curious. I restored an
old home dir on a new install and the HOME is set wrong
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773[04:40:46] <Atm0spher1c> it's not set anywhere, so just
wondering what does it by default
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775[04:41:14] <dvs> Atm0spher1c, I'm guessing it takes the
entry from the /etc/passwd file.
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776[04:41:24] <Tramp> Atm0spher1c: login (1) for a console
login. And ^^
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778[04:42:08] <Atm0spher1c> okay Tramp dvs , thanks
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836[05:10:05] <Kl451> I'm fairly new to Linux. I want to
install Debian, but encountered a problem with Debian working with
my wireless mic -- an Intel 8265. Any suggestion? I was trying for a
wireless install.
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839[05:10:37] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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841[05:12:16] <Kl451> I want to go straight to stretch. Is
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892[05:53:54] <jim> hi... is android studio packaged?
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909[05:59:18] <nine_milli> everyone, jim is a common troll from
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979[06:40:21] <codebam> lol
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995[06:52:05] <simbalion`> What has replaced php5-fpm in
stretch? I don't see a php7-fpm...
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998[06:53:21] <tx> php-fpm - server-side, HTML-embedded
scripting language (FPM-CGI binary) (default)
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999[06:53:21] <tx> php7.0-fpm - server-side, HTML-embedded
scripting language (FPM-CGI binary)
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1000[06:53:29] <tx> gotta have the .0 ;)
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1001[06:54:51] <simbalion`> ah I see, thank you :)
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replaced-url
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1005[06:57:18] <tx> probably need to ask them
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1006[06:57:22] <jim> uxfi, what happens when you try?
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1007[06:57:28] <tx> it's not like a distro comes with all of
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1008[06:57:29] <tx> :)
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1009[06:57:38] <tx> they need to implement that
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1010[06:57:50] <uxfi> aha
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1079[07:52:54] <Goldy> hi
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1099[08:02:42] <gry> It is absolutely impossible to install a
64bit program on a 32bit OS, correct?
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1103[08:04:31] <tx> gry: the prerequisite is a 64-bit kernel.
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1104[08:04:41] <tx> (to run natively)
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1106[08:05:56] <tx> qemu-x86_64 can do this
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1107[08:05:59] <tx> but it's not fast ;)
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1108[08:06:57] <gry> ok
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1110[08:09:05] <jelly> gry: it's not impossible to install.
It may be not possible to run.
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1113[08:10:00] * jelly running 64bit google chrome along mostly i386
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1114[08:10:17] <tx> Is there a reason you're in an i386
userland
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1115[08:10:20] <tx> or is it hardware related
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1117[08:10:36] <jelly> os was installed in 2001.
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1118[08:10:44] <tx> ah, that'l do it.
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1119[08:10:46] <jelly> can't be bothered to do a fresh
install
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1120[08:11:35] <gry> tx: I installed debian around 2012, and I
was dumb enough to pick the wrong installer, and it was dumb enough
to not whine at me in response
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1121[08:11:39] <gry> tx: would be nice if it did
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1122[08:12:13] <tx> I still do a yearly refresh.
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1123[08:12:16] <tx> I feel out of place now. :p
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1125[08:14:06] <jelly> gry: maybe it could also present a nice
helpful animated assistant. "It looks like you're trying
to do an i386 install but your hardware is amd64 capable, SURELY you
did not mean to do that?"
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1126[08:14:45] <jelly> perhaps it could look like a piece of
office stationery
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1128[08:14:56] <tx> The affirmative dialog text need to say
"Yes I did, and don't call me Shirley."
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1129[08:15:21] <gry> jelly: that would be wonderful - I did this
in 2010 due to ignorance, but then I did it again in 2012 due to
lack of attention
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1132[08:15:36] <jelly> /s
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1133[08:15:38] <gry> jelly: I could file a bug, against what
package?
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1134[08:15:43] <tx> gry: I think jelly is being sarcastic. :P
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1136[08:16:11] <gry> tx: that'd be ... a bit disappointing
... most of the cases when people install 32bit on 64bit is a human
error I would think
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1137[08:16:40] <gry> I'll have to do a bit of fiddling
around and most likely a complete reinstall
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1138[08:16:55] <gry> because the laptop user wants a program
which doens't have a binary for 32bit
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1140[08:17:44] <tx> which program is this?
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1141[08:17:59] <jelly> in the meantime you can install and reboot
into linux-image-amd64, enable amd64 as foreign arch, and install
libraries necessary to make said program run
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1142[08:18:42] <jelly> !multiarch
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1143[08:18:42] <dpkg> Multiarch allows you to install foreign
architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be
installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386
&& apt-get update». See
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1144[08:19:14] <jelly> same functionality enables one to install
amd64 package on an i386 system.
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1146[08:21:23] <gry> tx: skype.
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1148[08:21:42] <gry> jelly: I am allowed to install 64bit kernel
without complete OS reinstall?
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1150[08:22:18] <jelly> and boot it. Yes.
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1151[08:22:51] <gry> aren't all the few hundreds of packages
that I have 32bit though?
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1152[08:23:21] <jelly> they are. -amd64 kernel builds support
running x86_64 userspace, i386 userspace and x32 userspace.
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1156[08:24:45] <jelly> there's a linux-image-amd64 build
_in_ i386 repo (in jessie, and earlier) just for that
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1157[08:24:57] <jelly> judd: v linux-image-amd64 --arch i386
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1158[08:24:58] <judd> Package: linux-image-amd64 on i386 --
wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63
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1179[08:41:52] <one_too_many> Can my computer run debian
replaced-url
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1180[08:42:06] <one_too_many> I also have gtx 1080 sli
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1183[08:42:41] <jelly> probably; the hardware may be too new for
debian 8.
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1185[08:43:01] <one_too_many> That why i was asking
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1186[08:43:07] <one_too_many> since ryzen is very new
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1188[08:43:23] <jelly> you got better chances of using something
that's been on the market for 12 months
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1193[08:43:38] <one_too_many> would arch be a better option then?
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1194[08:43:45] <one_too_many> since it's rolling
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1195[08:43:47] <jelly> try it and see
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1198[08:45:01] <jelly> would be nice if you made an attempt at
installing stretch and do an installation report
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1201[08:45:18] <one_too_many> Would that help debian devs ?
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1202[08:45:37] <jelly> it would make a useful data point
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1204[08:46:23] <jelly> !install stretch
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1205[08:46:23] <dpkg> The best way to install Debian 9
"Stretch" is probably using the current release candidate
of the installer images.
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1215[08:47:44] <one_too_many> Could I do a system report if I
installed it on a vm instead or does it have to be host only?
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1231[08:49:42] <jelly> you can do both but I guess an install
report on physical hw would be more interesting
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1240[08:50:01] <one_too_many> okay I just don't want to wipe
my windows os
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1247[08:50:35] <one_too_many> Would a Live debian running on a
usb work
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1248[08:50:37] <lost_soul> no spare hdd you could install to?
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1249[08:50:38] <jelly> make a backup before installing anything
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1254[08:50:44] <jelly> or use a vm, right
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1257[08:51:25] <jelly> I don't know if live images for
stretch are ready
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1259[08:51:46] <jelly> !live stretch
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1260[08:51:46] <dpkg> The Debian Live project provides pre-built
Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can
be used to install a Debian system (although the installer is better
to use). Live images are available from
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1262[08:52:13] <one_too_many> 404 on the first lnik
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1263[08:52:20] <one_too_many> link*
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1265[08:53:30] <one_too_many> both links are down
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1268[08:54:12] <jelly> yeah, maybe ask in their channel then.
Note it's on a different irc network.
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1270[08:54:20] <one_too_many> okay
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1271[08:54:40] <TomG2>
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1273[08:55:03] <one_too_many> that link works
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1276[08:56:13] <one_too_many> tho that's for debian 8.8.0
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1285[09:00:40] <one_too_many> Does Debian accept cryptocoins
donations?
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1304[09:08:15] <jelly>
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1305[09:08:47] <jelly> oops, those are firmware images. But
anyway. Probably going to need firmware for nouveau anyway.
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1307[09:09:18] <one_too_many> I could try getting the nvidia
binary working
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1308[09:09:26] <jelly> after installing, sure
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1309[09:09:35] <jelly> !nvidia dkms
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1310[09:09:35] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later
systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>.
«aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed
's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section
"Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver
"nvidia"\nEndSection' >
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to
enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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1333[09:21:32] <lavenders> hi
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1334[09:21:56] <lavenders> is it possible to play sound on mail
incoming, i am open to any mail client or shell or what i need?
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1335[09:22:28] <lavenders> simple: mail incoming -> play sound
:) but what program
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1336[09:22:50] <BenNZ> lavender claws-mail can do that easily
enough
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1337[09:23:31] <TomG2> xbiff? :)
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1343[09:24:27] <TomG2> but yeah, claws and/or sylpheed and many
other mail clients should be able to play a sound
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1353[09:26:39] <jkinn23> I am having a problem with a change to
libc.so on a WD My Cloud drive running jessie
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1355[09:26:53] <lavenders> icedove vs claws?
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1358[09:27:53] <jkinn23> I copied libc.so.6 to
/usr/lib/arm-linux.../ and now most bash commands won't work
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1360[09:28:39] <jkinn23> "error while loading shared
libraries: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnuabihf/libc.so.6: invalid ELF header
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1361[09:28:57] <jkinn23> anyone here can help me?
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1363[09:29:43] <towo^work> why and from whjere you have copied
libc.so.6?
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1364[09:29:54] <jelly> jkinn23: don't change libc on your
closed embedded system
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1366[09:30:48] <jelly> jkinn23: see if it's physically
possible to connect the drive directly to another machine, and fix
things from there
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1369[09:31:37] <jelly> jkinn23: if there's a busybox
installed, you may be able to "busybox rm ..." that file
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1372[09:32:07] <jkinn23> it is network only accessible via ssh
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1373[09:32:15] <jelly> if there's a statically* linked*
busybox installed, I mean
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1375[09:32:35] <jelly> jkinn23: yeah, you may have to pry open
the thing to get to the drive
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1377[09:33:08] <jelly> possibly make that the last option,
don't reboot or power it off for the time being
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1378[09:33:09] <jkinn23> no busybox
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1379[09:33:17] <jkinn23> I am working on this remotely for
someone
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1380[09:33:27] <Stummi> lavenders, both are nice
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1383[09:33:55] <lavenders> ok, i choose thunderbird because of
atuoconfigure, but claws looks solid though
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1384[09:34:03] <Stummi> personally I prefer claws as well
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1386[09:35:07] <jelly> jkinn23: what _is_ there useful, then? if
ls does not work, use workarounds like "echo /usr/bin/*"
to see what's in a directory
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1387[09:35:32] <jkinn23> @towo^work I have copied the libc.so.6
file from a chroot I have on my regular machine to compile packages
for the mycloud
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1388[09:36:04] <towo^work> "invalid ELF header" sounds
not like the right arch
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1390[09:36:12] <jkinn23> western digital provides gpl source code
to compile arm packages for the mycloud
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1391[09:36:20] <jkinn23> right
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1392[09:36:57] <jkinn23> I am stuck now though...how do I remove
the libc.so.6 from /usr/lib;...
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1393[09:37:02] <jkinn23> ?
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1394[09:37:16] <jelly> jkinn23: two options: delete the broken
lib somehow, or if you know where the working libc.so.6 is, maybe
you'll be able to copy it over the broken one
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1395[09:37:46] <jelly> jkinn23: what's the name of dynamic
loader on that platform?
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1397[09:38:20] <jelly> jkinn23: pastebin the output of echo
/lib/*
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1398[09:38:35] <jkinn23> cp, rm, ls, most command complain about
error loaded shared library
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1400[09:38:55] <jkinn23> how can I tell the dynamic loader?
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1401[09:39:01] <jelly> jkinn23: pastebin the output of echo
/lib/*
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1402[09:39:44] <jelly> it's something like
/lib/ld-linux.so.2, not sure what's the common name on
armel/armhf/arm64
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1404[09:40:18] <jelly> jkinn23: and output of: echo /lib/ld-*
/lib/*/ld-*
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1408[09:41:31] <jelly> jkinn23: do you happen to know, did you
overwrite a libc.so.6 that existed already, or did you put in a new
one in a directory where none existed before?
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1409[09:42:13] <jelly> if latter, that's very good, you may
be able to run normal commands by telling them to preload the
correct libc
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1416[09:43:35] <jkinn23>
replaced-url
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1419[09:43:46] <jkinn23> I put where none existed
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1425[09:45:29] <jkinn23> how can I preload the correct libc?
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1430[09:46:26] <jelly> jkinn23: something like
LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/libc.so.6 /bin/cp --version
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1432[09:46:38] <jelly> jkinn23: does running
"/lib/ld-linux.so.3" work?
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1433[09:47:01] <jelly> Usage: ld.so [OPTION]... EXECUTABLE-FILE
[ARGS-FOR-PROGRAM...] [etc]
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1434[09:47:09] <jkinn23> one moment...I can't copy paste
because of the remote connection
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1435[09:47:18] <jkinn23> thanks very much for helping
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1436[09:47:19] <jkinn23> brb
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1441[09:47:38] <jkinn23> OK
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1449[09:51:38] <jkinn23> error: ld.so: object
"/lib/libc.so.6" from LD_PRELOAD connot be preloaded:
ignored
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1455[09:54:04] <jkinn23> "/lib/ld-linux.so.3"
works...carrying on
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1463[09:58:15] <jkinn23> OK, I think I can get the
"/lib/ld-linux.so.3" to work, but what is the correct
library I shold provide a path to so I can get my bash commands to
run?
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1487[10:12:00] <jkinn23> libc.so.6 was located at
/lib/arm-linux-gnuabihf/libc.so.6 which I "cleverly"
renamed to libc.so.6.orig before I overwrote it with a new one and I
think this is when my problems started, even though it is complaing
about the libc from /usr/lib
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1490[10:13:29] <coke> if you want to keep files move them way
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1491[10:13:47] <coke> s/move/copy/
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1492[10:13:47] <jelly> jkinn23: so try doing
LD_PRELOAD=/lib/arm-linux-gnuabihf/libc.so.6.orig /bin/ls
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1494[10:14:31] <jelly> coke: also, if you want to keep your
system running, don't move away the library all compiled
binaries depend on
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1498[10:16:18] <coke> s/move/copy/
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1506[10:20:26] <jkinn23> well I've learned now what that
library is for and I won't do it again
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1510[10:21:01] <jkinn23> but I still need to rename it back if I
can
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1511[10:21:55] <jkinn23> any other ideas?
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1517[10:24:53] <b4d_> Hi, I am trying to install a package in
squeeze (yeah, old, but can't upgrade) and I am getting 404 not
found errors. Is there any alternative source link for packages?
Thanks
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1523[10:26:44] <jelly> jkinn23: that LD_PRELOAD thing did not
work?
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1528[10:29:39] <jkinn23> @jelly sorry I missed that message at
first
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1529[10:29:45] <jkinn23> it did indeed work
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1532[10:30:05] <jkinn23> I've renamed my libc and back in
busniess
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1533[10:30:09] <jkinn23> phewph
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1534[10:30:16] <jkinn23> thank you so much!!!
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1536[10:30:57] <jkinn23> that scared the crap out of me...I super
appreciate the help
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1537[10:31:08] <jkinn23> now I know :)
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1539[10:31:26] <dionysus69> how do I make a bootable drive with
both gparted and clonezilla on it?
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1540[10:31:39] <dionysus69> let's say grub asks me at boot
time which one to load
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1542[10:32:07] <Bliepo> Hello, I run a small hobby server
(meaning that some downtime is acceptable) and was wondering about
what would be best: a clean install of stretch or simply upgrading
Jessie.
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1545[10:32:27] <dionysus69> Bliepo: upgrading wouldn't hurt
anything
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1546[10:32:43] <dionysus69> but obviously fresh install
"might" have it's benefits
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1547[10:33:03] <Bliepo> dionysus69: thanks, in that case
I'll probably just upgrade
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1548[10:33:36] <dionysus69> yep, I think that's what I did
with my system I am currently using. stretch is surprisingly stable,
and its development has been frozen
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1549[10:34:28] <Bliepo> Well, I'll just snapshot my system
before upgrading (I use btrfs), so if something should go wrong I
can rollback quite easily
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1553[10:35:27] <ggy6> .
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1565[10:38:49] <petn-randall> Bliepo: Do an upgrade, and make
sure to do an upgrade report. If you find any upgrade bugs
they'll get fixed. :)
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1579[10:53:39] <Bliepo> petn-randall: will do!
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1584[10:55:05] <cek> I'd like to RUN a program and assign
its singleline result to an ENV{var}. RUN+="/usr/sbin/blockdev
--getsz %N",ENV{DEVSIZE}="%c" doesn't work.
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1592[10:58:53] <jelly> jkinn23: it can help to have a statically
linked featureful shell in place, for times when you manage to mess
up normal dynamically linked commands
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1593[10:59:18] <jelly> ,v busybox-static
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1594[10:59:19] <judd> Package: busybox-static on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:1.20.0-7; jessie: 1:1.22.0-9+deb8u1; stretch: 1:1.22.0-19+b3; sid:
1:1.22.0-19+b3
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1595[10:59:21] <petn-randall> cek: VAR=`echo foo`
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1596[10:59:44] <cek> udev question.
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1600[11:02:34] <cek> oh, should've been PROGRAM
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1613[11:09:45] <_KaszpiR_> cek VAR=$(command)
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1614[11:09:56] <cek> ...another one.
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1631[11:15:45] <jim> hi... on upgrade from jessie to stretch,
getting this:
replaced-url
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1634[11:16:21] <jkinn23> thanks @jelly ...I will do that
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1636[11:16:42] <jkinn23> this mycloud drive has been a pain to
work with
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1639[11:17:54] <jkinn23> I am trying to do a file recovery on it
and it takes jessie packages, but not through apt
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1640[11:17:57] <petn-randall> jim: Run "grep -r
'1c300953' /etc/".
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1641[11:18:08] <jim> ok
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1643[11:18:31] <jkinn23> so I am manually downloading and
compiling them...then transferring to the owner to she can put the
on a usb and plug it into the drive
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1644[11:18:37] <petn-randall> jim: IIRC is
/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
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1645[11:18:40] <petn-randall> *it is
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1646[11:19:15] <jkinn23> but I don't knwo in advance what
dependencies are missing because I don't have the drive in
front of me to check with
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1650[11:20:42] <jkinn23> this is not as easy as just running
testdisk :P
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1652[11:21:15] <jim> petn-randall, yeah, the grep returned that
file, I just deleted the line since (1) there's no such swap
partition and (2) this isn't a laptop anyway
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1653[11:21:15] <jkinn23> I have to go for now...thanks again!
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1656[11:22:15] <jim> petn-randall, anyway thanks, that was a good
idea
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1667[11:23:48] <petn-randall> jim: You're welcome :)
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1668[11:24:27] <x8b30cc> hello there i am unable to uninstall a
package: speech-dispatcher, i keep getting userdel: failure while
writing changes to /etc/passwd
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1671[11:25:03] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: Can you paste the command
you're using + the complete output to
replaced-url
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1676[11:25:29] <x8b30cc> @petn-randall sure
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1681[11:27:15] <x8b30cc> petn-randall
replaced-url
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1682[11:28:18] <petn-randall> !localized errors
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1683[11:28:18] <dpkg> Rather than hoping that we recognise what
has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language,
please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by
setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the
command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
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1685[11:28:25] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: ^^^
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1686[11:28:47] <x8b30cc> petn-randall can't i just translate
it to you?
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1687[11:29:18] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: Just add LC_ALL=C before
the command and it'll be in english.
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1688[11:29:32] <petn-randall> (that factoid sounds a bit snarky,
I'll fix that)
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1689[11:29:50] <babilen> It does, yeah
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1690[11:30:43] <x8b30cc> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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1694[11:32:45] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: It sounds like your root
filesystem is read-only. Or at least /etc/passwd.
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1695[11:33:07] <x8b30cc> petn-randall sounds bad
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1696[11:33:54] <x8b30cc> just tried to create a file inside /root
it works
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1697[11:34:04] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: You can check the first
with "mount", and the second with "ls -al
/etc/passwd".
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1699[11:34:35] <petn-randall> babilen: fixed it
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1700[11:34:42] <petn-randall> !localized errors
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1701[11:34:42] <dpkg> To provide command output in English
instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one
(e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get
-f install".
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1702[11:34:48] <x8b30cc> petn-randall
replaced-url
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1703[11:34:53] <x8b30cc> nope sorry wrong paste
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1704[11:35:07] <enkrypt> when I put a package on hold (apt-mark
hold) in what way is it kept the same version? because it appears it
prevents indeed from an 'apt-get upgrade' from touching
it, but when I do 'apt-get install package' it still gets
upgraded
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1706[11:35:50] <_KaszpiR_> use apt pin
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1707[11:36:06] <x8b30cc> petn-randall
replaced-url
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1711[11:37:09] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: Disk full maybe? "df
-h"
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1713[11:37:39] <petn-randall> On second thought, that would give
a different error.
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1714[11:38:05] <x8b30cc> petn-randall used only 5%
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1715[11:38:31] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: What does the output of
"lsattr /etc/passwd" give you?
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1716[11:38:52] <petn-randall> (you can paste the single line in
chat)
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1719[11:39:01] <x8b30cc> petn-randall: -------------e--
/etc/passwd
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1720[11:39:38] <x8b30cc> coul be that caused by me removing root
user login?
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1721[11:39:54] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: How did you remove the
root user?
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1722[11:41:06] <x8b30cc> passwd -l root
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1727[11:42:25] <x8b30cc> petn-randall i am not even able to sudo
passwd root for unable access to /etc/passwd
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1728[11:42:52] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: That only locks it, it
*should* be ok. But since I've run out of ideas why it's
failing, could you unlock root and try it again?
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1729[11:43:35] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: Is sudo properly set up,
though?
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1732[11:45:08] <gry> jelly: re migrating from 32bit to 64bit, I
would like a step by step tutorial;
replaced-url
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1736[11:48:38] <x8b30cc> petn-randall i can't unlock root,
because the same problem i think
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1738[11:49:04] <x8b30cc> when i try to sudo passwd rood i get
error in auth token manipulation
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1739[11:49:22] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: Argh. It's always a
good idea to test sudo before locking root. Did you log your user
out and back in again since you added it to sudo?
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1743[11:49:50] <x8b30cc> petn-randall i rebooted also many times
since yesterday
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1744[11:50:04] <gry> or if jelly is away, someone else please
assist. thanks :)
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1745[11:50:12] <x8b30cc> sudo seems to work properly
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1746[11:50:24] <x8b30cc> and i am also able to sudo su
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1750[11:50:40] <petn-randall> x8b30cc: And 'id' then
outputs that you're root?
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1753[11:51:04] <x8b30cc> petn-randall uid=0(root) gid=0(root)
gruppi=0(root)
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1755[11:51:38] <petn-randall> gry: I recommend doing clean
install. The migration from 32 to 64bit is not officially supported,
and there are many steps to hose your system in obvious or –
even worse – subtle ways that are hard to debug.
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1756[11:51:48] <gry> ok
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1759[11:52:18] <petn-randall> gry: So I'd backup all your
important data, then do a stretch install on the system and restore
your data again.
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1760[11:54:36] <jim> gry, when I went from 32 to 64, I already
had a sizable separate /home, and plenty of free space... so I just
ran the 64b netinstsll
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1762[11:55:30] <jim> it's said to be really hard to cross
that particular boundary
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1764[11:55:57] <jim> (having said that, I'm seen debian
cross others)
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1766[11:56:16] <aqiank> Hi guys, I have a problem in my Upstart
program. The program itself runs fine but when it calls
`system("/usr/local/bin/foo")`, it complains that it
cannot find it (e.g. sh: 1: /usr/local/bin/foo: not found). Does
anyone know why?
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1767[11:56:41] <aqiank> The foo program is in /usr/local/bin/foo
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1768[11:57:08] <jim> is it a script?
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1769[11:57:12] <xand> check the #! line at the start of foo
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1772[11:57:36] <aqiank> and I execute my own program like
"su -c /usr/local/bin/bar"
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1774[11:57:41] <aqiank> in the Upstart script
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1775[11:57:50] <aqiank> It's a binary program
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1776[11:57:56] <aqiank> Both of them are binaries
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1777[11:58:33] <aqiank> I also tried putting it in /foo and use
system("./foo")
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1778[11:58:33] <jim> it could be missing lib, or missing linker
(ld.so)
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1782[11:59:58] <jim> try running ldd on it
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1783[12:00:28] <jim> see if any of the items it shows are missing
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1784[12:00:55] <aqiank> I see, I'll check
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1788[12:01:28] <internot> i almost miss using Ms. Dos, i
can't remember the last time i used a *.* wildcard
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1789[12:01:37] <jim> if most of your other stuff works, I
don't suspect missing ld.so
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1798[12:04:25] <gry> jim my /home is not separate, i'll have
to ignore this problem and find a workaround, i'm a bit lazy.
but i took some notes from here in case i need them later.
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1802[12:05:37] <jim> gry, if you decide you want to try it and
you need a hand, see if I'm arount
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1827[12:16:16] <x8b30cc> the problem in the end is caused by:
userdel speech-dispatcher
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1830[12:16:40] <x8b30cc> that gives me userdel: failure while
writing changes to /etc/passwd
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1842[12:21:40] <gry> jim: yes, if only the reason was more
worthwhile than installing skype! when it is, I will get in touch
(for now I'm trying to convince Skype that using a webpage and
firefox's mic and webcam access like a modern html5 app is a
good idea)
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1844[12:24:24] <jim> I have to reboot... brb :)
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1853[12:30:46] <wipe> !ops wake up
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1854[12:30:47] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: wipe complains
about: wake up
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1856[12:30:54] <wipe> !ops and don't forget to wipe your ass
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1857[12:30:55] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: wipe complains
about: and don't forget to wipe your ass
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mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: wipe complains
about: wipe your ass
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1890[12:51:51] <cronicx> Hey debian, i want to install a package
through another repo, added in sources.list.d, seems ok. If i want
to install - it only gives me another version from the official repo
.. is there something like pinning? I checked the preferences and
theres no pinning for this package defined.. seems strange
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1892[12:52:12] <towo^work> forget apt update?
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1893[12:52:17] <cronicx> nope
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1894[12:52:36] <cronicx> in the apt-cache policy its visible
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1896[12:52:56] <cronicx> but candidate is still the outdatet
version..
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1899[12:53:10] <towo^work> cronicx, then be more precise
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1900[12:53:22] <jelly> !bat
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1901[12:53:23] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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1902[12:53:25] <jelly> cronicx: ^^
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1903[12:53:25] <towo^work> paste the output of apt-cahe policy
package
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1904[12:53:41] <cronicx> ok , sorry :) hold on
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1905[12:54:12] <BenNZ> cronicx:
replaced-url
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1907[12:54:43] <cronicx> BenNZ: checked, nothin in there except a
sysvinit pinning
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1909[12:55:53] <cronicx>
replaced-url
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1911[12:55:57] <cronicx> apt-get is coming
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1912[12:56:04] <BenNZ> cronicx: that link will tell you how to
add a package pin
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1914[12:56:59] <AN0NYM> you can install packages from another
repo with "apt-get install -t <repo-name>
<packages>" and they will be updates automatically with
apt
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1915[12:57:01] <cronicx> BenNZ: Ah yes, ok. But this should
working without pinning.. there are like 100 installations that ive
done so..
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replaced-url
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1918[12:57:09] <cronicx> apt install paste
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1919[12:57:21] <internot> apt eat paste
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1921[12:57:21] <apt> That's too disgusting.
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1922[12:57:25] <BenNZ> cronicx: not if there is a later version
in the repo
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1923[12:57:27] <towo^work> don't use ubuntu packages in
debian!
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1924[12:57:42] <cronicx> oh. sorry
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1925[12:57:43] <cronicx> wrong try :D
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1928[12:59:34] <cronicx>
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1929[12:59:38] <cronicx> this should be the correct one
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1930[12:59:40] <cronicx> with debmon sources..
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1932[13:00:39] <BenNZ> so youre wondering why the package with a
pin of 990 will be installed over a package with a pin 500 ?
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1933[13:00:51] <jelly> !localized errors
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1934[13:00:51] <dpkg> To provide command output in English
instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one
(e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get
-f install".
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1935[13:00:53] <towo^work> look at your pinning of the regular
repo
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1937[13:01:29] <jelly> cronicx: where's the output of
"apt-cache policy"
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1938[13:01:48] <cronicx> jelly: last paste first 7 lines
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1939[13:01:51] <jelly> also, please use paste.debian.net if
possible, or some other pastebin without ads
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1940[13:01:53] <cronicx> oh mom
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1942[13:02:15] <cronicx>
replaced-url
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1943[13:02:16] <cronicx> there it is
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1948[13:02:58] <cronicx> Oh, pastebin is using ads? Sorry
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1949[13:03:00] <cronicx> ^^
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1951[13:03:34] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
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1952[13:03:56] <jelly> cronicx: you seem to have pinning or
Default-Release set _somewhere_
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1953[13:04:34] <jelly> cronicx: grep Default-Release
/etc/apt/apt.conf{,.d/*}
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1954[13:04:55] <BenNZ> for the non-free repo
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1955[13:04:58] <cronicx> jelly: there it is.. >.<
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1956[13:05:00] <cronicx>
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/default-release:APT::Default-Release
"jessie";
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1958[13:05:17] <jelly> cronicx: and since that debmon repo uses
n=debmon-jessie instead of n=jessie, it doesn't get matched
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1959[13:05:18] <BenNZ> sorry there are others
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1960[13:05:30] <jelly> cronicx: (as seen in "apt-cache
policy")
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1961[13:05:41] <cronicx> jelly: thank you so much. I didnt
noticed this in cache policy
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1963[13:06:01] <jelly> that's why the bots asks for all that
stuff
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1964[13:06:03] <cronicx> and didnt checked apt.conf.d :x
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1966[13:06:09] <cronicx> makes sense.
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1967[13:07:02] <jelly> if you only have repos for jessie enabled,
there's technically no reason to pin the release that way at
all
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1968[13:07:18] <jelly> if you mix jessie and something newer...
you shouldn't :-)
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1973[13:09:04] <cronicx> jelly: I am not using this normally. It
is a somehwat "managed" server, with custom
installations.. no comment :9
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1975[13:09:48] <jelly> it's... probably not managed very
well
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1976[13:09:51] <cronicx> :D
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1977[13:09:56] <cronicx> Thats the point..
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1979[13:10:37] <cronicx> But thats not my department.. They
wanted icinga2, there it is :-)
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1996[13:19:20] <AciD`> ok so, once again, I'm trying to
install a fresh debian (netinst) on a computer via an usb key, and
it chockes on the "detect and mount cd" step, where it
does not find a cd, since there is none
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1997[13:19:29] <AciD`> how can you get around something that
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1999[13:19:49] <AciD`> I tried going to the console and type
`mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /cdrom`, to no avail
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2000[13:20:11] <AciD`> note: I created the usb key using dd
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2002[13:22:37] <BluesKaj> AciD`, do you have your usb boot option
turned on in the uefi/bios?
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2003[13:23:08] <AciD`> BluesKaj -> I guess so, since I can see
the install menu, and from there I launched `graphical install`
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2004[13:23:25] <AciD`> according to google, there are tons of
people having the exact same problem
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2005[13:23:34] <AciD`> unfortunately for me, none of the given
solution works
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2006[13:23:41] <jelly> AciD`: how did you write the usb stick?
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2007[13:23:58] <AciD`> jelly -> <AciD`> note: I created
the usb key using dd
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2008[13:24:08] <AciD`> without any special options
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2009[13:24:11] <BluesKaj> ahh, suggest you use the plain install,
it's the old test methos and it still works , the gui option
failed for me too.
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2010[13:24:16] <AciD`> just if= of=
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2011[13:24:19] <jelly> AciD`: on linux?
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2012[13:24:31] <AciD`> yep, on my other debian :)
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2013[13:24:33] <BluesKaj> method
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2014[13:24:34] <AciD`> (testing)
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2015[13:24:36] <jelly> AciD`: what was the exact command line?
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2016[13:25:00] <BluesKaj> gawd test=text
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2017[13:25:05] <AciD`> dd
if=/home/acid/iso/2017-06-05/debian-8.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso
of=/dev/sdf
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2018[13:26:02] <jelly> that seems fine, but sometimes not all the
data is written with dd (if you unplug the stick too quickly)
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2019[13:26:14] <jelly> cp seems to be a bit more reliable
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2020[13:26:16] <AciD`> jelly -> I checked that, no blinking
led
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2021[13:26:40] <AciD`> BluesKaj -> I just tried the plain
install, still the same no cd-rom detected problem
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2022[13:26:55] <AciD`> this is crazy, I remember having the exact
same problem 10 years ago, at least :(
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2023[13:27:09] <AciD`> (on different hardware, obviously ;x)
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2024[13:27:17] <jelly> exact same symptom, not necessarily exact
same issue
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2026[13:27:30] <AciD`> well, still a bummer
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2027[13:27:51] <AciD`> this debian I'm currently on, I had
to debootstrap it from another distro using chroot
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2028[13:28:10] <AciD`> then it was a *pleasure* to install the
needed package to make it run correctly ;o
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2029[13:28:10] <BluesKaj> think the image you chose may be at
fault, find the image meant for usb not cd/dvd
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2030[13:28:18] <AciD`> I'm not doing that on that laptop!
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2031[13:28:40] <AciD`> well, I used the netinst like provided for
the normal sized usb
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2033[13:28:46] <AciD`> can't go wrong with that
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2034[13:29:20] <AciD`> on this page :
replaced-url
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2036[13:29:29] <AciD`> this link :
replaced-url
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2037[13:29:47] <AciD`> (the amd64 on under "Small CDs or USB
sticks"
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2039[13:30:04] <jelly> BluesKaj: all netinst images are for both
usb and cd/dvd
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2042[13:31:18] <BluesKaj> yeah , that should work...
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2043[13:31:26] <BluesKaj> that's what i used
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2044[13:31:27] <AciD`> I'm confused because either I'm
the unluckiest guy trying to install debians for years, or then, how
come such a critical bug pass QA? :o
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2045[13:32:05] <AciD`> `mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /cdrom` returns
"failed: Invalid argument" :/
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2047[13:32:38] <BluesKaj> ?? cdrom
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2048[13:33:02] <ElKaktus> a cdrom filesystem isnt vfat
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2049[13:33:14] <ElKaktus> try mount -t iso9660 /dev/sdb1 /cdrom
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2051[13:33:19] <AciD`> ElKaktus -> the key is
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2053[13:33:38] <ElKaktus> its a usb key ?
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2054[13:33:40] <AciD`> > /cdrom is the target, not an iso9660
one
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2055[13:33:46] <ElKaktus> ok i see
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2056[13:33:48] <ElKaktus> sorry
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2057[13:33:54] <AciD`> no problem
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2058[13:34:12] <AciD`> I'm tired and I should not have tried
to install Debian at 1:30 am I guess
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2059[13:34:12] <AciD`> :)
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2060[13:35:06] <AciD`> expert mode allows me to choose each step
separatedly, but still can't get past the detect cd-rom step :/
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2061[13:35:23] <Guest52458> with dd why it's sdf ?
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2065[13:36:18] <AciD`> ..because I have lots of hdd in my other
computer :)
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2067[13:36:57] <AciD`> ah!
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2068[13:37:01] <AciD`> expert mode saved me
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2069[13:37:03] <AciD`> so
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2072[13:37:26] <BluesKaj> Guest52458, it's probly what fdisk
-l or df -h outputs
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2073[13:37:30] <AciD`> the install chockes on the detect cd-rom,
which is dumb since it's an iso made for a usb key, but oh well
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2074[13:37:51] <AciD`> so you first need to choose
'none' for the cdrom module it then propose you
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2076[13:38:13] <AciD`> then it shows you the default path to the
cd-rom '/dev/cdrom'
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2077[13:38:27] <AciD`> from there you just need to replace it
with /dev/sdb1 or whatever
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2078[13:38:28] <BluesKaj> sorry, but the /cdrom in the =command
confuses me
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2079[13:38:28] <AciD`> phew
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2080[13:38:36] <AciD`> this is really user friendly.
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2081[13:39:22] <AciD`> BluesKaj -> well, with busybox you can
see when you use the terminal that it use the old folder structure
by default, with /cdrom instead of the new(ish) /media/cdrom
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2082[13:40:01] <AciD`> well now I'm in expert mode and I
need to chose each component myself ;o
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2083[13:40:19] <BluesKaj> think it's time the nomenclature
was reviewed
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2085[13:41:40] <AciD`> it's time a usb install does not
bother detecting a cd-rom.
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2087[13:42:01] <glick> ih
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2088[13:42:09] <glick> wow, something strange just happened with
my machine
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2089[13:42:22] <glick> i was watching a video via tor, when the
entire machine froze
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2090[13:42:35] <dob1> hi, I have an hdd where it is installed
debian jessie, I just the root partition of this hdd I am not
running the debian system instelled on it. Can I know in some way
the packages installed on this debian system?
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2091[13:42:41] <glick> i could not switch virtual desktops, or to
virtual terminals
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2092[13:42:43] <dob1> *mount
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2093[13:42:48] <glick> could not move the mouse
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2094[13:43:09] <glick> i hit alt-ctrl f1-f2 and then the machine
just rebooted
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2095[13:43:11] <AciD`> dob1 -> you can chroot to it and find
out
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2096[13:43:22] <glick> is there anyway i can see what caused
that?
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2098[13:44:44] <dob1> AciD`, I take a look, I never used chroot
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2099[13:45:10] <AciD`> it's pretty straightforward
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2100[13:45:23] <AciD`> mount /dev/sdxy /mnt/debian
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2101[13:45:28] <ElKaktus> glick> /var/log/messages ?
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2102[13:45:34] <ElKaktus> glick> or dmesg
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2103[13:45:38] <AciD`> chroot /mnt/debian /bin/bash
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2104[13:46:20] <AciD`> ah and before doing chroot, do `for i in
dev dev/pts sys proc run; do sudo mount --rbind /$i /mnt/debian/$i;
done`
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2105[13:46:30] <AciD`> gn
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2107[13:46:41] <dob1> AciD`, i need to mount the home partition
too?
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2109[13:47:02] <AciD`> you do not need to if you just want to use
the 'root' account
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2110[13:47:11] <glick> i see nothing strange in them
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2112[13:48:00] <glick> its weird because i was watching a online
video
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2113[13:48:07] <ElKaktus> glick> may be a hardware problem ?
memory ? cpu ?
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2114[13:48:17] <glick> and the video got stuck and kept repeating
the last two seconds
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2115[13:48:22] <glick> but everything else was stuck
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2116[13:48:46] <ElKaktus> it's the first time it happens ?
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2117[13:48:54] <dob1> AciD`, thanks
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2138[14:01:25] <Aebian> this moment when windows freezes while
trying to go to end of file on a 720mb oracle sql file... good that
my debian machine doesn't care and can load it and go to the
end
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2139[14:01:38] <Aebian> weird
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2167[14:12:09] <unborn> releases
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2168[14:12:56] <unborn> - does anyone have info when freeze
becomes live? - thanks
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2170[14:13:07] <AlexPortable> How can I prevent an user from
wiping out his .bash_history file?
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2172[14:13:37] <petn-randall> AlexPortable: You can't.
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2176[14:13:55] <petn-randall> !tell unborn about wwsr
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2178[14:14:41] <unborn> thanks pent! cannot wait and counting the
days :)
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2180[14:15:16] <AlexPortable> thanks
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2236[14:42:44] <AlexPortable> What would be the best way to run a
process as an user, and then disable logging in on that user?
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2238[14:43:51] <petemc> passwd -l
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2239[14:44:09] <petemc> or change their shell with chsh
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2242[14:45:15] <AlexPortable> will that still keep the process
running?
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2244[14:45:59] <petemc> yes
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2248[14:46:39] <webmind> hello, I'm testing a debian 9
installation. I screwed up my partitioning, but how do I remove
encrypted partitions?
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2250[14:46:54] <webmind> I can't find an option to do so
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2269[14:56:12] <webmind> switching to guided partitioning results
in lots of errors
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2272[14:57:38] <BluesKaj> webmind, manual partitioning gives more
options/flexiabilty
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2273[14:57:46] <webmind> BluesKaj: yes
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2274[14:58:03] <webmind> but I see no option there to remove my
encrypted partitions
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2275[14:58:31] <webmind> I could reboot and restart the installer
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2277[14:58:36] <webmind> but this seems maybe broken?
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2283[14:59:23] <webmind> would be crap to have a broken installer
when it's released no?
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2284[14:59:32] <BluesKaj> webmind, dunno, never needed to encrypt
any partitions, being a home user
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2288[15:00:08] <webmind> BluesKaj: I'm a home user
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2289[15:00:11] <jelly> webmind: stupid way: switch to shell,
Ctrl-Alt-F2, wipe beginning and end (say, 1MiB) of the target disk
drive, reboot and run installer again
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2290[15:00:35] <webmind> jelly: just restarting the installer
probably works
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2291[15:00:38] <jelly> if you have any other partitions and os
installations on this disk, don't do that
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2292[15:01:01] <webmind> but I'm suspecting the installer to
be missing a crucial feature
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2295[15:01:11] <webmind> wondering if that shouldn't be
fixed before the release?
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2296[15:01:50] <jelly> webmind: going steps back in the installer
does not clean all the partman state
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2298[15:02:07] <jelly> (partman is the compoment that does
guided/manual partitioning)
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2299[15:02:37] <jelly> if there's a way to really restart
the installer, sure, try that
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2300[15:02:46] <webmind> jelly: I can reboot the machine
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2302[15:03:04] <webmind> but shouldn't there be a way to
remove the partitions in the installer?
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2305[15:03:25] <jelly> webmind: there should. There is, but the
interface is a bit clunky.
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2306[15:03:34] <webmind> jelly: where is it?
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2308[15:03:57] <jelly> I can't point it out over irc,
because... it's clunky
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2310[15:04:13] <jelly> s/can't/can't be bothered/
really
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2311[15:04:51] <webmind> yikes
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2314[15:05:07] <webmind> now I managed to remove the partitions,
while the encrypted volumes are still configured
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2315[15:05:10] <jelly> so it's simpler both to tell you to
wipe the partition table in shell and reboot, than click back and
forth in partman until you find the right thing
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2316[15:05:23] <jelly> for* both of* us*
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2317[15:05:23] <webmind> trying to configure the encrypted
volume, it tries to configure it on /dev/sda
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2318[15:05:33] <jelly> it's fun isn't it?
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2319[15:05:44] <webmind> jelly: well, except that wouldn't
solve my problem
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2321[15:05:50] <webmind> which is trying to do it in the proper
way
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2322[15:06:11] <jelly> you can do it the proper way, but
it's easy to get lost doing that
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2323[15:06:30] <unborn> webmind: what you mean in proper way...
jelly just gave you proper way....
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2324[15:06:43] <jelly> no, I gave them a workaround
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2325[15:07:16] <jelly> "wipe partition manually from shell
and reboot" is hardly proper :-)
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2326[15:07:19] <unborn> .le me re-read
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2327[15:07:28] <jelly> partition table*
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2328[15:07:31] <webmind> I would agree :)
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2329[15:07:47] <webmind> heh
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2330[15:07:58] <webmind> now it lets me create partition tables
on an encrypted device
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2332[15:08:09] <webmind> which has no partition behind it
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2333[15:08:25] <jelly> but the installer ui for partitioning is
clumsy. I haven't tried stretch yet, but I did try jessie
recently on my laptop for fun, and I got into a similar messy state
with partman
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2334[15:08:43] <webmind> but should it be released like this?
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2335[15:08:54] <jelly> wel... it's not worse than it was
before
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2336[15:09:02] <webmind> :(
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2337[15:09:14] <webmind> it seems quite broken
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2338[15:10:06] <jelly> partman's state of physical volumes
used for luks and volume groups and layering leaves something to be
desired
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2339[15:10:32] <jelly> anaconda (RHEL/CentOS installer) UI is a
bit more sane, but not much
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2344[15:13:14] <BluesKaj> never saw the point of encrypting
partitions , perhaps some sensitve files, but not partitions as a
home user. I guess being an old windows user experiencing the
difference in security on linux made me think I've been safe
from attack on many levels compared to windows.
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2346[15:13:49] <jelly> never experienced a break-in, have you
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2347[15:14:10] <jelly> windows has bitlocker now and it's a
lot more friendly
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2349[15:14:53] <BluesKaj> experinced dos attack from an irate irc
user in russia who treid to steal my nick
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2351[15:15:29] <BluesKaj> but he wasn't successful, never
did figure out why he came after me
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2352[15:15:44] <webmind> BluesKaj: I wouldn't to have to
think about each file whether it's sensitive
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2356[15:16:05] <jelly> when you have cpu support for aes,
it's almost free
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2358[15:16:11] <webmind> yep
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2359[15:16:23] <webmind> so easiest to just have it
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2360[15:16:26] <BluesKaj> not each file I'm talking about
personal data etc
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2361[15:16:46] <jelly> so why not use it, maybe the machine will
never get stolen, maybe it will, one less thing to worry in any case
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2365[15:17:22] <webmind> I've had my machine stolen before
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2366[15:17:44] <BluesKaj> how many users who steal pc know
anything abouty linux , chances are 1 in a 100
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2367[15:17:58] <BluesKaj> pcs
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2368[15:18:00] <kwizart> hello, anyone known for which arches the
defaut bootloader is grub ?
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2370[15:18:07] <kwizart> on deb8+
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2371[15:18:15] <kwizart> (or even grub2)
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2374[15:19:29] <CuSn> Quick Question, Sudo on Jessie has a
security update. How do i upgrade the sudo package without upgrading
all the other packages at the sane time. "apt-get upgrade"
does ALL the packages on the system. i definitely don't want to
do that.
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2375[15:19:40] <CuSn> *same
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2377[15:19:59] <BluesKaj> and if you use a decent login pwd,
chances are even fewer that he'll guess it
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2378[15:20:02] <webmind> BluesKaj: 1% is high enough, for me,
it's irrelevant though.
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2380[15:20:39] <BluesKaj> now you have a problem webmind due to
encrypting a partition
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2382[15:21:51] <BluesKaj> it's my pov ...encrypt if you must
but make sure you know how to remove it first
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2385[15:22:27] <webmind> BluesKaj: due to encrypting a partition
or a broken partman? :)
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2386[15:22:29] <webmind> I know how
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2388[15:22:37] <webmind> I'm trying to test the usability of
partman
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2389[15:22:53] <BluesKaj> well, have fun
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2392[15:23:29] <Lina16> hi
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2393[15:23:32] <webmind> lo
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2394[15:23:44] <Lina16> I need to share folder in KVM
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2395[15:23:46] <Lina16> Help plz
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2399[15:24:36] <Lina16> friends?
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2400[15:25:24] <hwangbj> Hello~
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2401[15:25:26] * webmind doesn't use kvm
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2402[15:25:34] <jelly> Lina16: which side of kvm is debian?
guest? host? both? What do you want to share and with whom?
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2406[15:26:02] <Lina16> host - mint based ubuntu based debian
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2407[15:26:13] <Lina16> gues - debian
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2408[15:26:45] <Lina16> need to share folder
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2409[15:26:47] <jelly> consider using sshfs, it's not the
fastest but it's the safest, and it usually works on any server
that has openssh server installed
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2411[15:27:10] <jelly> or some other sftp client (like
/usr/bin/sftp, or filezilla)
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2412[15:27:27] <Lina16> friends?
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2413[15:28:01] <dionysus69> for example acronis has an ability to
clone vhd to hard drive, does clonezilla have such ability to clone
either VDI, VMDK or VHD to hard drive?
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2415[15:28:16] <dionysus69> if yes can anyone point me to an
article because I couldnt find it through google :\
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2417[15:28:39] <jelly> Lina16: consider using sshfs, it's
not the fastest but it's the safest, and it usually works on
any server that has openssh server installed
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2419[15:31:47] <Lina16> please
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2420[15:32:00] <Lina16> no need sshfs
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2421[15:32:02] <jelly> please what?
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2422[15:32:10] <Lina16> see
replaced-url
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2423[15:32:11] <jelly> what's wrong with it?
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2431[15:36:09] <cronicx> Hey guys, in an .deb file, there is a
control data for depencys. Is it possible to generate a deb file for
wheezy and jessie? Because the .deb that i created installs the
depencys only in jessie.
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2440[15:37:48] <Lina16> help please!
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2441[15:38:29] <jelly> !ask
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2442[15:38:30] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2443[15:38:46] <jelly> Lina16: be more specific if you can,
please.
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2444[15:39:15] <Lina16> host - mint based ubuntu based debian
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2445[15:39:19] <Lina16> gues - debian
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2447[15:39:54] <Lina16> need to share folder like in VBox
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2454[15:43:07] <jelly> Lina16: and what happened when you tried
configuring it like suggested on that web page?
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2455[15:43:44] <Lina16> I not tried
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2456[15:43:57] <Lina16> I not see this tab in GUI
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2458[15:44:14] <Lina16> Filesystem
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2476[15:53:47] <jhutchins_wk> !mint
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2477[15:53:48] <dpkg> Linux Mint is not Debian and is not
supported in #debian. Please use their forums at
replaced-url
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2478[15:54:35] <jelly> jhutchins_wk: yes we know mint is not
debian
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2479[15:54:43] <jelly> debian, however, is debian
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2482[15:56:26] <jhutchins_wk> jelly: Ah, I see debian guest.
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2483[15:56:37] <jhutchins_wk> What hypervisor, assuming it's
NOT vbox?
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2488[15:57:47] <colo-work> stretch doesn't have secure boot
support in the same way that ubuntu and fedore have, right?
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2489[15:57:50] <colo-work> fedora*
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2493[15:59:29] <jhutchins_wk> colo-work: Secure Boot was
developed specifically to prevent people from running Linux.
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2494[16:01:06] <petn-randall> jhutchins_wk: I wouldn't go
that far with the statement.
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2497[16:01:57] <petn-randall> colo-work: secure boot is not a
release goal, meaning the release won't be postponed for it to
finish. It'll likely be supported with a later point release,
though.
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2500[16:02:50] <colo-work> petn-randall, thanks
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2560[16:27:14] <Ney> Hi, I got an old NAS server running Wheezy
(in some sort of emdedded version), and the userinterface reports
that 95% of root is used. which seems rather unusual. Is there an
easy way (CLI) to troubleshoot this?
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2563[16:28:45] <colo-work> du -chx / | sort -h
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2568[16:30:21] <_KaszpiR_> probably logs and cache
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2569[16:30:46] <_KaszpiR_> you may be interested in ncdu package
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2570[16:30:53] <_KaszpiR_> (if available, though)
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2575[16:32:16] <jelly> or du -x / > du-x-root.$(date -I); sort
-n < du-x-root.$(date -I) | tail -40
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2577[16:33:12] <jelly> (why a temporary file? Because that du may
take very long and avoiding to run a second time to explore more
details may be beneficial)
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2581[16:34:08] <frostschutz> mkdir /mnt/root, mount --bind /
/mnt/root, ncdu /mnt/root -- finds hidden files under other mounts,
which -x skips
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2587[16:36:41] <Ney> think the first might be a clue
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2590[16:36:55] <Ney> somehow my squeezebox stores 1.8gb in
artwork o.O
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2598[16:38:39] <jhutchins_wk> petn-randall: The goals of secure
boot changed, it was originally meant to lock systems down to
Windows only.
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2640[17:03:33] <choice> Hello! Where on the disk is the Gnome
trashcan for root?
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2645[17:04:23] <fatalerrors> i know it's not the subject but
i must act:
replaced-url
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2650[17:05:53] <Ney> Thanks for the tips, think it did the trick,
silly apps that makes a mess....
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2659[17:07:30] <SerajewelKS> choice: a better question is why are
you running a graphical environment as root :/
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2662[17:08:15] <fatalerrors> SerajewelKS: a so good question :)
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2663[17:08:19] <peterandre> hello
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2667[17:08:56] <peterandre> i'm posting php variables to
bash scripting (this works ) but when i use the script it won't
let me use useradd $username
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2669[17:09:11] <peterandre> what would be the best one liner
option for this
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2679[17:13:56] <SerajewelKS> peterandre: it's hard to say
without your code. likely the problem is that you are not root.
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2680[17:14:08] <peterandre> yea
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2681[17:14:16] <peterandre> it uses admin
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2683[17:14:42] <choice> *phew* i found it :)
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2684[17:14:44] <petn-randall> peterandre: You should take a step
back and think hard about the problem if your solution is to run PHP
code as root.
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2685[17:14:45] <choice> /mnt/myexternaldisk/.Trash-0/
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2686[17:15:03] <petn-randall> choice: Why are you running Gnome
as root in the first place?
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2688[17:15:39] <choice> petn-randall: Because I like it.
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2692[17:15:58] <choice> What is the stuff in the info/ folder of
the trash?
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2696[17:16:43] <peterandre> i see, im trying to add a user with
useradd from php posted variables.. im using
putenv("USERNAME=$username");
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2697[17:16:43] <peterandre> and
putenv("PASSWORD=$password"); to post the variables . then
$cmd = './test.sh';
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2698[17:16:43] <peterandre> echo
"<br><br>";
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2699[17:16:44] <peterandre> $output = exec($cmd); to run the
script
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2705[17:17:08] <petn-randall> choice: Are you running Parrot?
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2706[17:17:14] <SerajewelKS> choice: you can do what you want,
but running a graphical environment as root is extremely dangerous
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2707[17:17:30] <petn-randall> *not supported.
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2709[17:17:36] <SerajewelKS> that too
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2710[17:17:45] <choice> Hmm.. info/ is trash related metadata.
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2712[17:18:05] <petn-randall> choice: Are you running Kali or
Parrot?
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2713[17:18:15] <choice> petn-randall: Nope.
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2714[17:18:25] <choice> petn-randall: What are those?
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2716[17:18:49] <petn-randall> choice: Distros where people tend
to run everything as root due to not knowing better.
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2718[17:20:01] <SerajewelKS> nothing says "please pwn my
box" like running a web browser as a privileged user
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2725[17:20:32] <petn-randall> ... with Adobe Flash :)
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2734[17:22:53] <tw> What do other people use to keep chromium
addons up to date if the addon is not in apt?
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2737[17:23:28] <jhutchins_wk> tw: Just use the internal
mechanism.
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2739[17:23:45] <jhutchins_wk> tw: It should notify you if there
are updates.
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2740[17:25:57] <tw> Oh, weird, last time I tried this, it
wouldn't let me install addons from the chrome store but it
works properly now.
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2741[17:26:01] <tw> This is much better.
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2749[17:30:15] <prompt32> Hello. I have a debian8/i386 system. My
question is, if i can update this to an amd64 arch, without the need
of reinstall .
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2766[17:34:22] <petn-randall> prompt32: There is, but it's
super hacky, and it's very easy to hose your system at any of
those steps. The safer and better approach is to backup your data
and do a clean 64bit stretch install.
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2773[17:36:06] <prompt32> thanks both, my logic seems to think
the same, .... ;)
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2831[17:56:26] <donofrio> does anyone crossgrade?
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2833[17:56:56] <tw> donofrio: that will probably only work from
x86 -> amd64; note it says you must be running a kernel that
supports both userspace architectures.
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2846[18:00:35] <kolnpole> latest chrome version is not working?
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2850[18:01:04] <kolnpole> i can load urls in indigo mode but in
normal mode nothing works
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2853[18:01:48] <petn-randall> kolnpole: Chrome from Google? Or
Chromium from the Debian repos?
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2854[18:01:59] <kolnpole> chrome from google
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2856[18:02:05] <donofrio> tw, I'm just after the packages
don't want or need the kernel
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2857[18:02:29] <petn-randall> kolnpole: I'd guess that one
of your plugins is breaking it, since they're by default off in
incognito mode.
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2858[18:02:29] <kolnpole> google-chrome-stable (59.0.3071.86-1)
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2859[18:02:43] <kolnpole> chromium is working fine
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2860[18:03:01] <petn-randall> kolnpole: Also, what do you mean
exactly with "nothing works"? Try to describe the problem.
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2863[18:03:55] <tw> donofrio: x86 kernel can't run amd64
packages. If you just want the list of packages, maybe apt-mark
showmanual instead?
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2864[18:04:10] <kolnpole> loads url for ever and i cant even see
any thing loading on left bottom corner .. like exteblishing
connections , resolving host etc
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2866[18:05:23] <kolnpole> but switching to incognito makes it to
start work i can load urls etc
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2873[18:07:07] <petn-randall> kolnpole: I see. Try deactivating
all extensions then and see if it works then.
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2877[18:08:49] <kolnpole> i also thought about extansions when it
stoped working but no luck
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2881[18:10:05] <kolnpole> its just creating alot of processes
which doesnt terminate after chrome is closes what is nacl_helper?
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2882[18:10:31] <kolnpole> and the processes have status of
sleeping and zombie lol
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2914[18:29:12] <eyJhb> I have a debian jessie server, which has
huge packets that drops, when I ping it (around 10%). I've
tried differen ethernet cards, and checked that the drivers are
correct, but still a huge packet drop. Pinged 2 others servers at
the same time, with 0 packet loss. Same switch, internal network..
Any ideas?
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2925[18:34:38] <tripkin> Have you checked the cables?
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2926[18:34:50] <tripkin> eyJhb, ^^^^
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2928[18:35:48] <c0def4ce> hey guys could anyone recommend a way
to use a USB dongle for texts/possibly calls as well? I'm
running Kali, sorry - pretty much a n00b out here -.-
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2929[18:36:42] <petn-randall> !kali
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2930[18:36:42] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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2931[18:36:49] <petn-randall> c0def4ce: Try asking in their
channel. ^^^
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2933[18:37:12] <jhutchins_wk> donofrio: It's probably best
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2936[18:37:32] <jhutchins_wk> donofrio: You could also work from
a manual list - read entries, add the ones you know you need.
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2939[18:38:31] <c0def4ce> petn-randall it was my second resort -
I thought their might be a fork or something from the debian repo,
although I can't pick nothing up on Git
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2943[18:39:09] <petn-randall> c0def4ce: Yes, Kali is a fork from
Debian. And has it's own support channel.
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2945[18:39:42] <donofrio> jhutchins_wk, so a migration from one
arch type to another is not something that anyone does here?
I'm only talking about packages not kernel objects...just sayin
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2947[18:39:48] <petn-randall> * its
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2948[18:40:27] <kolnpole> can i import bookmarks and settings
from chrome to chromium?
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2949[18:40:27] <donofrio> jhutchins_wk, what if you have a 32 bit
system and you buy a 64 bit system how would you migrate that
package setup from one arch type to the new arch type fresh system?
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2950[18:40:38] <c0def4ce> I'll hit their channel up, thanks
man
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2951[18:40:44] <jhutchins_wk> donofrio: You don't want to
blindly copy over packages that might be architecture specific, you
have a chance to loose cruft you installed but don't use.
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2952[18:40:49] <kolnpole> cuz i onlu see option of importing from
firefox
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2955[18:42:13] <jhutchins_wk> kolnpole: Use a compatible file
format for the export.
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2958[18:43:11] <jhutchins_wk> donofrio: I recently did that (was
actually running 32b on 64b hardware). I tried the crosgrade process
and ended up with a lot of broken packages, so I did a clean
install.
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2966[18:47:01] <tripkin> kolnpole, they read the same info, so
you could copy the profile from one to the other. Works fine
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2985[18:55:39] <dionysus69> when I cloned my virtual machine
debian jessie to a hard drive, I got system error at the time when
gnome was supposed to startup
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2986[18:55:53] <dionysus69> i am able to boot in maintenance mode
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2989[18:56:29] <dionysus69> from grub, and it works, how do i
troubleshoot what went wrong during the boot process? I checked
fstab and UIDs are fine, what else should I check while cloning from
virtual to physical?
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2991[18:57:02] <eyJhb> tripkin, 2 different network cards with
two different cables (currently running at the same time). THink
I'm on like that fifth cable, and secound switch :)
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2994[18:57:20] <eyJhb> But it doesnt seem to drop pings when i
ping FROM the box..
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3003[18:59:30] <tripkin> No idea, then. Sorry.
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3025[19:05:24] <eyJhb> tripkin, quite alright! Thanks for your
time anyways :)
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3058[19:16:24] <jhutchins_wk> tripkin: Anything in the queues?
Packet errors? Is there a load on the system?
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3061[19:16:59] <tripkin> jhutchins_wk, that would be for eyJhb
...
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3063[19:17:02] <jhutchins_wk> dionysus69: I wonder if your
initramfs is still loading modules for the VM instead of the
hardware.
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3066[19:17:23] <jhutchins_wk> tripkin: Yes, sorry.
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3067[19:17:35] <tripkin> No problem-o!
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3077[19:21:58] <dionysus69> jhutchins_wk: I don't know, but
in that case it shouldnt boot at all right
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3078[19:22:10] <dionysus69> I am able to boot in troubleshooting
mode from grub
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3080[19:22:49] <dionysus69> and boots all the way to user, i am
able to do pretty much everything, just when I do startx the same
error pops up, whether I am root user or regular user
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3101[19:30:19] <jhutchins_wk> dionysus69: I know it's an
edge concept, but what the error actually says might be of some
interest.
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3105[19:31:45] <nickgaw> Hi, I am trying to compile android and
have adb and fastboot installed it tells me to install javacc but
should not lots more packages get installed besides just one or two?
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3108[19:32:47] <kion> I have this message error in several
places, Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" How
can I fix this?
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3114[19:34:00] <velix> When will Debian Buster be released?
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3115[19:34:06] <velix> Can't wait anymore :D
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3116[19:34:10] <velix> Sorry, just trolling :)
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3118[19:34:59] <velix> /msg dpkg jessie->stretch;
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3119[19:34:59] <dionysus69> jhutchins_wk: don't remember
exactly but something along these lines with full grey screen with
black text and sad smiley, system was unable to start contact the
system administrator
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3120[19:35:04] <velix> /msg dpkg jessie->stretch
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3121[19:35:14] <greycat> no space before /msg
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3122[19:35:26] <velix> greycat: and no ";" after :)
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3123[19:35:33] <dionysus69> I think the error message was with
the gnome shell "theme" so atm intuition tells me
it's because of the gnome shell
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3124[19:35:54] <jhutchins_wk> dionysus69: Well, if it runs in
console mode that's good.
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3126[19:36:16] <dionysus69> I have tried using tasksel to delete
gnome and install xfce but i got the same error
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3127[19:36:16] <jhutchins_wk> dionysus69: You can at least check
the logs and such.
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3132[19:38:43] <nickgaw> why do people not suggest cvs anymore
for version control?
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3134[19:40:42] <greycat> google says
replaced-url
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3147[19:46:42] <dionysus69> jhutchins_wk: don't know what to
look for, I went for dmesg and noticed couple red lines but nothing
specific that I would be able to understand
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3148[19:47:07] <dionysus69> I am backing up one vm with
clonezilla and going to restore to another
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3149[19:47:15] <dionysus69> see if I can recreate problem on VM
level
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3150[19:47:45] <jhutchins_wk> dionysus69: It sounds like
/var/log/Xorg.0.log might be of interest.
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3152[19:48:30] <jhutchins_wk> nickgaw: Some people switched
because git was the new shiney, but mostly cvs wasn't under
much development and git worked a lot better in broader usage.
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3161[19:50:36] <velix> Is there a nice mail server for debian,
which stores mails as files and NOT inside a mysql DB ?
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3162[19:50:57] <greycat> ... all of them.
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3163[19:51:05] <jhutchins_wk> velix: Sendmail
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3164[19:51:27] <velix> jhutchins_wk: oh, I thought, it's not
used anymore for real E-Mails.
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3165[19:51:31] <velix> greycat: I think about qmail
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3166[19:51:40] <greycat> Local mail delivery is to either a
single monolithic file ("mbox format"), or to a "mail
folder" with one message per file ("Maildir format",
or older formats). Nobody delivers to mysql. Nobody.
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3167[19:51:40] <velix> greycat: but I've seen mysql howtos
only
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3168[19:51:56] <velix> greycat: I want "internet" mail
;)
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3169[19:52:04] <greycat> qmail delivers either to Maildir
(natively), or through a pipeline to e.g. procmail if you want mbox
format
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3170[19:52:18] <velix> greycat: okay, I need more reading on
this. thanks
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3171[19:52:29] <greycat> You are probably being very very
confused because you are looking at setups that store *user
accounts* in mysql. Not the mail itself.
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3174[19:52:53] <velix> greycat: Yeah, some want a unix user, some
want mysql ... you're right.
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3176[19:53:03] <velix> greycat: actually, I want a catch-all
mailadress and IMAP ;)
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3178[19:54:24] <jhutchins_wk> velix: imap is a separate
component, often handled by dovecot.
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3180[19:54:41] <velix> jhutchins_wk: okay, I need MUCH more
reading.
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3181[19:55:01] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: I don't know why you
wouldn't store the actuall messages in mysql. I haven't
seen it, but people put EVERYTHING in mysql or pgsql.
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3182[19:55:20] <greycat> for starters, your IMAP daemon
wouldn't know how to read it
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3183[19:55:20] <jhutchins_wk> velix: Yeah, running an exposed
mailserver does mean a lot of readng.
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3185[19:55:41] <greycat> nor would your local MUA
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3186[19:55:50] <velix> jhutchins_wk & greycat: maybe I can
find someone on freelancer, who can setup a server for me.
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3188[19:56:24] <dionysus69> so far I haven't been able to
setup working email
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3189[19:56:34] <dionysus69> I have tried about 3-4 times with 3 4
different tutorials
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3190[19:56:55] <dionysus69> thing is I want to be using
postgresql, postfix and dovecot
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3191[19:57:21] <ompaul> velix: have fun reading this and other
good things:
replaced-url
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3192[19:57:39] <divious1> hello everyone
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3193[19:57:44] <velix> ompaul: is it up to date? everytime,
I've visited the wiki, I stuck somewhere :(
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3194[19:57:57] <divious1> long time linux mint user decided to
jump ship to parrotsec/debian
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3198[19:58:51] <ompaul> velix: it is as up date as last year with
EXIM
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3203[19:59:43] <ompaul> velix: bottom line start off with postfix
- then fix it up later then you can drag your mail onto the imap
server from inside thunderbird or some such
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3204[20:00:05] <jhutchins_wk> It has apparently been done.
mailsteward, dbmail.
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3205[20:00:07] <ompaul> kind of makes sense to build on your
knowledge get each part exactly as you want it
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3206[20:00:18] <dionysus69> jhutchins_wk: restoring image to VM
worked successfully.
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3207[20:00:19] <velix> ompaul: yeah, I've understood this.
I'll read some more HowTos. Thanks for your hinters.
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3208[20:00:33] <jhutchins_wk> velix: If you're going to run
it, it's better to build it yourself so you understand how it
fits together.
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3210[20:00:58] <jhutchins_wk> velix: You might just want to pay
google or somebody to run it for you.
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3211[20:01:24] <eyJhb> jhutchins_wk, no clue anout queues, and
packet errors, just using the basic ping tool to see how many get
though. But not really any server load at all
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3216[20:01:48] <eyJhb> 8 threads at 0-1%
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3222[20:03:39] <webmind> I installed debian 9 next to qubes, now
I can't boot to cubes anymore
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3223[20:03:53] <webmind> can anyone help me to get qubes back in
the grub menu?
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3224[20:03:56] <jhutchins_wk> eyJhb: /sbin/ifconfig should show
you some stats.
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3225[20:04:04] <webmind> update-grub2 doesn't see it
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3226[20:04:10] <jhutchins_wk> eyJhb: ethtool gives some other
info.
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3227[20:04:11] <greycat> webmind: make sure os-prober is
installed, and re-run update-grub
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3228[20:04:26] <webmind> greycat: it's installed
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3229[20:04:30] <jhutchins_wk> eyJhb: dmesg and /var/log/syslog
are worth considering.
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3231[20:04:46] <eyJhb> jhutchins_wk, ifconfig says 2 dropped,
everything else is 0
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3232[20:04:52] <webmind> update-grub is not finding qubes still
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3235[20:05:11] <jhutchins_wk> eyJhb: Watch that, see if it goes
up.
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3237[20:05:34] <eyJhb> Been pinging for 2 hours jhutchins_wk, it
doesn't change
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3238[20:05:56] <eyJhb> and nothing in the logs.. :/
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3240[20:06:36] <eyJhb> jhutchins_wk, what args for ethtool?
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3242[20:08:12] <eyJhb> ethtool displays none dropped, errors,
missed, etc..
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3246[20:09:42] <jhutchins_wk> eyJhb: How do you know the card is
good?
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3249[20:10:19] <eyJhb> jhutchins_wk, one is internal, cant test
it. The other one i might test, but havent yet
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3250[20:10:35] <eyJhb> just seems od..
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3251[20:10:47] <eyJhb> but it seems like the way forward
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3261[20:14:00] <nickgaw> How do I stop all low level kernel
messages being printed to the consoles and just logd like normal as
I have that line in /etc/sysctl.conf uncommented but still I get
some of them?
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3263[20:14:44] <webmind> os-prober btw does not have man page and
does not give any output
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3268[20:15:54] <nickgaw> the levels in that line are 3 4 1 3.
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3269[20:16:13] <greycat> webmind: os-prober is a package, not a
command you can run
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3271[20:16:28] <greycat> there's
/usr/share/doc/os-prober/README
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3273[20:17:05] <webmind> that says that it's a command :)
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3274[20:17:14] <webmind> 'and then run the os-prober
command'
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3275[20:18:00] <greycat> Hmm, ok. Then the lack of a man page may
be a real bug.
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3277[20:18:22] <webmind> there are even arguments one can give
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3278[20:18:43] <jhutchins_wk> webmind: Is qubes supposed to be
multi-boot/grub compatible?
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3279[20:18:45] <webmind> for linux boot one needs to run in on a
root partition
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3280[20:18:55] <webmind> jhutchins_wk: it uses grub itself, I
don't see why not
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3281[20:18:59] <webmind> it's just a xen setup
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3283[20:19:26] <webmind> but os-prober seems to need a root
partition, but I only have /boot partitions available
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3286[20:20:19] <webmind> it doesn't even recouldnize my own
debian installation
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3300[20:25:32] <jhutchins_wk> webmind: Yeah, you'll need to
mount the rest of the system for the system to run properly, /boot
is not enough.
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3305[20:25:52] <jhutchins_wk> webmind: You might try getting
qubes' grub to recognize debian.
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3307[20:26:20] <jhutchins_wk> webmind: Or look at qubes'
grub config and copy the appropriate section.
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3321[20:32:48] <webmind> jhutchins_wk: the first bit requires
getting qubes to work :)
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3323[20:33:26] <RedMercury> anyone using freeipa client on debian
here?
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3325[20:34:41] <webmind> jhutchins_wk: mounting the partition and
with /boot mounted in it
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3329[20:35:42] <webmind> doesn't make update-grub find it
thoughj
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3334[20:37:24] <SaltySolomon> Is there any Debian
Version/Derivative that would run well on my 14 inch 1440p laptop, I
tried gnome 3, but the scaling is terrible :/
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3335[20:37:59] <greycat> You should be asking which desktop
environment or window manager, not which operating system.
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3336[20:38:54] <greycat> It may also be worth checking whether X
is running at the correct resolution in the first place. xdpyinfo |
grep dimensions
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3337[20:38:55] <SaltySolomon> Well, it will end in the same with
me because I really don't want to install one by hand
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3338[20:39:23] <webmind> SaltySolomon: xfce or mate are fairly
light
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3339[20:39:36] <SaltySolomon> It, was the issue was that 1 time
scaling made everything way too small but 2 times scaling made
everything waaaay too big
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3342[20:40:27] <jer0me> then scale 1.4
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3343[20:40:36] <SaltySolomon> Can't isn't supportet
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3349[20:42:36] <ForceRecon> anyone have any documentation to make
TOR the default web browser in debian when clicking a url in email
or more importantly IRC?
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3350[20:43:47] <greycat> neither my email MUA nor my IRC client
does anything at all when I "click" a "link"
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3352[20:44:08] <greycat> If I want to open the crap-links that
people spam here, I have to copy/paste one from the IRC client into
a web browser.
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3356[20:45:03] <LtL> greycat: even a right click doesn't
display choices?
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3357[20:45:52] <greycat> Right click highlights a huge swath of
multiple lines. I'm not sure how it decides where to
start/stop.
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3361[20:47:11] <webmind> copy-paste not working with vim and
mate-terminal....
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3362[20:47:18] <jhutchins_wk> SaltySolomon: You might look into
optimizing your graphics drivers.
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3365[20:47:53] <webmind> ah like that
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3366[20:47:57] <SaltySolomon> Please not anything over the top
complicated :/
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3373[20:50:11] <nix64bit> whats the sexiest media player on nix?
Using Mplayer and vlc
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3380[20:53:24] <jhutchins_wk> SaltySolomon: Doesn't sound
like you're really into learning linux.
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3382[20:54:12] <SaltySolomon> jhutchins_wk Lets just say, I want
to use linux and not have to change a bazillion text files,
recompile everything for it then not to work
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3385[20:54:48] <greycat> It's not likely you'll have to
compile anything.
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3386[20:54:51] <nix64bit> SaltySolomon: nix is power
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3387[20:55:26] <SaltySolomon> I really love to use linux as a
server and use it there very often, but it just **** as a desktop
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3388[20:55:31] <greycat> The first step is to figure out
what's actually wrong, if anything. My first suggestion was to
check the resolution, and make sure it matches the native hardware
display.
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3389[20:55:38] <SaltySolomon> I did
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3390[20:55:42] <nix64bit> not really
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3391[20:56:02] <SaltySolomon> Okay, what should I do?
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3393[20:56:47] <greycat> If it were me, I would report back what
the xdpyinfo
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3394[20:56:48] <webmind> jhutchins_wk: copy-pasting to/from
grub.cfg works, but it'll break the next time there is a new
kernel
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3395[20:57:00] <greycat> If it were me, I would report back what
the xdpyinfo|grep command gave, and confirm "Yes, that is my
LCD size" or "No, that is not my LCD size"
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3396[20:57:03] <nix64bit> nix is really not hard anymore
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3398[20:57:14] <SaltySolomon> Until it is
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3400[20:57:49] <nix64bit> do you want help?
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3404[20:58:21] <webmind> qubes also doesn't see my debian
partition
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3406[20:59:05] <SaltySolomon> greycat It matches my actuall
display resolution
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3409[20:59:27] <greycat> That's good. That means you
probably don't have to touch the video drivers.
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3411[21:01:20] <SaltySolomon> Okay, so what should I try now?
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3413[21:01:50] <greycat> What is "scaling"? What is the
actual problem you're having?
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