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• 47[00:59:50] <Waxhead> Howdy, is the old debian.org website still accessible somehow?
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• 51[01:04:28] <Waxhead> (main problem is - I am NOT visually impaired (not that old) - both debian.org and micronews.debin.org use gigantic fonts by default. - the old site was better structured, cleaner and looked more professional.
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• 67[01:29:16] <Poster> I think the style you describe is becoming largely adopted across many sites, just punching in a few other large OS/distribution players seems to yield similar styles
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• 71[01:31:32] <Poster> it's important to remember that a signifncant percentage of web browsing is happening on mobile devices now with relatively small displays. Making fonts and images larger can make those interfaces much easier to use
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• 82[01:55:14] <Waxhead> Poster: But Debian is NOT for cellphones (primarily). Too many "professionals" make websites more like a techdemo , but the new main page does not have any useful content. Do I really have to set a zoom level on my browser just because I need to conform to those using cellphones? Gimme a break.
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• 84[01:58:15] <sney> Waxhead: to answer your question, no, there is not a way to go back to the old design. if you have some constructive critiques, feel free to email debian-replaced-url
• 85[01:59:00] <Waxhead> sney: Okeydok - thanks a bunch. I'll try to do that instead! Cheers!
• 86[01:59:07] <sney> np
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• 89[02:02:22] * foxide finds the new layout far more efficient.
• 90[02:02:43] <foxide> One click to the netinst download, one click to the security advisories.
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• 92[02:03:16] * sney doesn't have a problem with it, but wishes they would put the netinst download on a landing page with links to verification/other installer images
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• 95[02:04:35] * Waxhead will keep quiet and try to stay on topic :)
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• 131[02:44:39] <jennie> hello, i installed dvd1 with debian buster, i have kde and i am stuck at login with deb user, i cant switch it to root why?
• 132[02:45:10] <jennie> how to swithc to root, i tried arrow keys, i tried clicking arrows but it wont let me switch to root user, its stuck at deb user i created
• 133[02:45:24] <sney> don't log into kde as root.
• 134[02:45:48] <sney> most X applications don't support it, even if you manage to get in, your desktop will be broken
• 135[02:46:09] <sney> instead, log in as your normal user. then if you need a root shell you can use sudo or su from konsole
• 136[02:46:14] * robobox feels too old
• 137[02:46:37] <jennie> okay sney
• 138[02:46:59] <robobox> there's a ~2005 era slashdot rant I found and use when relevent
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• 140[02:50:20] <sney> robobox: a side effect of linux being "easy" for the past decade is that a lot of people are lacking fundamentals, that they didn't need to learn as a natural part of the process of setting up a working system. so a "rant" from 2005 is probably completely off the mark by now
• 141[02:51:01] <sney> never mind some of the "*plonk*" fodder that older helpers in this channel still fall back on
• 142[02:51:17] <n4dir> when i started using linux, which is the same as using computers and as using debian, it was already very easy. That should have been 2007
• 143[02:51:23] <n4dir> sney: ^^
• 144[02:51:29] <robobox> i've been using X as root for 25 yewars
• 145[02:51:33] <robobox> and linux
• 146[02:51:55] <robobox> guess i'm too old (50 years) :(
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• 148[02:52:38] <sney> I started using linux in 2000, a few months after reading a book that advised me to pick between redhat and debian. (I basically flipped a coin.)
• 149[02:52:40] <n4dir> sney: ah, i recall, it was etch, but short after that the next release came out
• 150[02:52:48] <sney> n4dir: I forgot a ~ before decade, I meant to be approximate
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• 152[02:54:05] <n4dir> sney: yeah, it is just i remember well, as i was told how horribly difficult it is. It wasn't, i was reliefed, and hence remember. Just a "story"
• 153[02:54:07] <sney> anyway, there are a lot of people who are perfectly fine at general gui operation, and booting installers and sneakernet-ing files around, but don't know anything about privilege separation or other low level unix stuff because they haven't had to learn it until now.
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• 178[03:09:44] <n4dir> guilty. i guess
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• 183[03:13:40] <ryouma> to me linux (e.g. new subsystems, initrd, etc.) and computers (smr drives) are getting more complex and it is quite annoying
• 184[03:14:15] <ryouma> but to a just-run-me-a-windows-like-desktop user perhaps it is getting less copmlex
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• 190[03:19:47] <ectospasm> I was introduced to Slackware on January 13, 1997, the day after HAL-9000 went online.
• 191[03:21:02] <ectospasm> I have been using Linux ever since. Didn't set up Linux on my daily driver until about 2001 or so.
• 192[03:21:33] <ectospasm> I started using Debian ca 2008, after a brief stint with Ubuntu as my daily driver.
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• 217[04:02:45] <lf94> Hey, is there a way to modify a control file and re-run it?
• 218[04:03:10] <lf94> Right now I'm running Debian testing, and one of the dependencies the control file requires, libre2-8, doesn't exist, but libre2-9 does
• 219[04:03:29] <lf94> replaced-url
• 220[04:03:37] <sney> lf94: as you can see from the topic, testing support is in #debian-next on OFTC (note, right now you are on freenode)
• 221[04:03:50] <lf94> Whoops! Sorry, my window is quite small
• 222[04:03:53] <lf94> I'll go
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• 266[05:12:01] <iMin3Ra1n> Hi there. I've got an instance of debain running inside of UserLAnd on android 10. When trying to run a java program, i am met with "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x0000007f4aea6fe0, pid=9720, tid=9721" and then it spits out a log. I can send it to whoever wants to look at it
• 267[05:12:10] <iMin3Ra1n> i am using default-jdk
• 268[05:15:51] <sney> feel free to paste your full log to paste.debian.net and link to the channel, if anyone has ideas based on all of the information they may share
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• 273[05:17:20] <iMin3Ra1n> one moment as i attempt to ftp into the device...
• 274[05:17:39] <sney> if it can nc, you can use termbin:
• 275[05:17:42] <sney> !termbin
• 276[05:17:43] <dpkg> you can paste to termbin.com from terminal via: nc termbin.com 9999 < /path/to/file
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• 278[05:19:22] <iMin3Ra1n> it's a .log file :/
• 279[05:20:12] <sney> file extension doesn't mean anything, is it text?
• 280[05:20:24] <iMin3Ra1n> it's a lost cause i think. can't even isntall vsftpd without spewing errors everywhere
• 281[05:20:51] <iMin3Ra1n> gotta find a better way of installing debian/linux on an android phone
• 282[05:21:38] <qman__> iMin3Ra1n: Termux provides a debian-like userland on android
• 283[05:22:02] <sney> since android uses a linux kernel, lxc might be possible, or at least i see some google results
• 284[05:22:07] <iMin3Ra1n> I do have termux installed but i just could not for the life of me figure out how to ssh into it
• 285[05:23:13] <iMin3Ra1n> the enviroment im looking to build on this phone must: 1) run linux 2) run java 3) have ssh/ftp access
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• 289[05:24:21] <qman__> iMin3Ra1n: replaced-url
• 290[05:24:46] <qman__> this channel is pretty specifically just for debian itself
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• 292[05:25:20] <iMin3Ra1n> hm
• 293[05:25:30] <iMin3Ra1n> android = linux
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• 295[05:25:37] <iMin3Ra1n> but okay
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• 298[05:26:20] <qman__> while android runs the linux kernel, you are unlikely to find support for it in any linux support channels and communities, and will have to go to android specific ones
• 299[05:26:37] <qman__> because android does things significanly differently to traditional linux distributions
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• 304[05:27:45] <archer86> linux has 3 things stdin (standard in) stdout (standard out) and stderr (standard error) human beings are exactly the same we have input output and errors human beings are 1:1 with computers so if we go to war with machines who will strike first?
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• 339[06:16:28] <T-zef> hi all! at home i have a router that provide wifi: replaced-url
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• 347[06:24:17] <T-zef> maybe that is the answer ? replaced-url
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• 349[06:24:27] <T-zef> i have never did that before
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• 430[08:46:43] <powerhouse> I got Debian running as a VM. I am using Gnome but I don't see how I can open a terminal or a web browser. I see in settings - search - terminal but I click it any nothing happens. Any ideas?
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• 432[08:52:46] <nkuttler> powerhouse: gnome has menu, doesn't it?
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• 435[09:08:35] <powerhouse> nkuttler, oh there we go, I had to press Activities
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• 442[09:13:47] <idlestranger> tbh I tried gnome with buster and immediately hated it. I haven't liked any version of gnome after gnome 2. Currently happy with cinnamon as a DE, though if you're still exploring DE's, lxqt's pretty good as well imho. xfce has the same issues it had 6 years ago(no surprise there) and my impression of kde plasma can be summed up as 'misguided'. Now i'm sure both gnome and kde can be tweaked to your
• 443[09:13:53] <idlestranger> liking, and most of xfce's issues can be worked around. just my personal opinions.
• 444[09:14:42] <powerhouse> idlestranger, grattitude
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• 468[09:42:57] <powerhouse> How do I get out of fullscreen mode on a vm so I can get back to my main os?
• 469[09:43:35] <idlestranger> which vm software are you using?
• 470[09:44:00] <powerhouse> No software, I just ran my script and loaded the OS
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• 472[09:44:30] <idlestranger> hypervisor then?
• 473[09:44:56] <powerhouse> sorry not sure.
• 474[09:45:16] <powerhouse> im using visualization if that helps.
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• 476[09:45:33] <idlestranger> if hypervisor it should be ctrl+alt+pause, if vmware player it should be ctrl+alt+enter
• 477[09:45:49] <yogoyo> hello, when i install buster on my laptop i setup wifi. i skip the gui install, because i wanna do some things before that. but when i boot the new system i have no connection to the network
• 478[09:46:00] <yogoyo> how can i restore it?
• 479[09:46:33] <powerhouse> idlestranger, got it thanks!
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• 481[09:50:16] <yogoyo> !nm-cli
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• 483[09:50:29] <dpkg> nmcli is a command line interface for controlling <NetworkManager>, introduced at version 0.8.1. See nmcli(1) or replaced-url
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• 638[13:01:24] <towser> hello, I'm trying to use obs with snappy but for some reason the text is missing but all the buttons load up and a few errors I can't read because there is no text
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• 641[13:03:47] <noln> Testing users, install apt-listbugs and don't upgrade python today, replaced-url
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• 643[13:04:29] <davorin> good afternoon (o;
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• 647[13:05:10] <davorin> ah this nouveau blacklisting is a nightmare every time i install debian on a system with nvidia gpu...
• 648[13:05:23] <davorin> never works with adding an entry under modprobe.conf.d
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• 685[13:55:20] <davorin> seems nvidia installer doesn't install any blacklists
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• 691[14:01:23] <unixbsd> Which Filesystem does have a badsect/badsector ? Ext2,3,4, what else?
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• 695[14:02:53] <Vatum> is apparmor enabled by default in debian 10 buster? do i need to pass any parameter to the kernel boot line?
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• 697[14:06:23] <foxide> Vatum: I believe it is enabled by default.
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• 700[14:11:07] <Vatum> foxide, is there a way to check with certainty?
• 701[14:11:47] <foxide> Vatum: aa-status as root or via sudo.
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• 704[14:13:39] <Vatum> foxide, says apparmor module is loaded
• 705[14:13:50] <Vatum> and 2 profiles are loaded, with them 2 being nvidia in enforce mode
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• 707[14:14:05] <foxide> Then its enabled.
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• 711[14:19:31] <towser> missing libary libGL.so.1 when trying to launch steam. how do i fix this?
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• 716[14:24:01] <noln> unixbsd, pretty much all, except btrfs
• 717[14:25:28] <noln> unixbsd, but writing to a bad sector will remap it to a "spare" sector from a spare area at the physical disk level (below the FS) so filesystem-level bad-sector marking is not needed until the drive runs out of spare sectors
• 718[14:26:14] <foxide> And at that point, you're better served by replacing the disk.
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• 720[14:27:31] <noln> well, sometimes it's easier to keep daily backups, which you should do anyway
• 721[14:27:51] <noln> or do a btrfs raid1
• 722[14:27:59] <foxide> raid isn't backups
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• 726[14:29:27] <noln> or keep .git on a separate disk
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• 737[14:40:04] <Lope> is there any reason I can't run a buster container on a 3.4 kernel?
• 738[14:40:34] <azeem> did you try?
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• 741[14:41:18] <Lope> azeem, I had trouble in the past, where I couldn't run anything newer than wheezy or whatever on a 3.0 kernel due to libc6 requiring a 3.1 kernel IIRC
• 742[14:41:41] <Lope> But I've not encountered any trouble with a 3.4 kernel, but haven't tried anything newer than Jessie on a 3.4 kernel either.
• 743[14:41:58] <Lope> Sorry, haven't tried anything newer than Stretch on a 3.4 kernel.
• 744[14:42:04] <Lope> I'll give it a try :)
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• 746[14:44:59] <Lope> okay, yolo, upgrading the stretch to buster :)
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• 761[15:14:49] <Lope> It worked :)
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• 773[15:36:46] <Vatum> i wanted ejabberd but the stable package is old, so i checked buster-backports which is current. my friend though insists that this will break our system because its from backports, and we got the one .deb packge from ejabberd official site
• 774[15:37:19] <Vatum> i thought backports are compiled against libraries existing in stable right? so can it introduce instability?
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• 776[15:40:07] <dvs> Vatum: backports was designed to work with stable so it won't break stable.
• 777[15:40:46] <Vatum> dvs, also should i do apt-get install -t buster-backports ejabberd
• 778[15:40:56] <Vatum> or apt-get install ejabberd/buster-backports ?
• 779[15:41:22] <Vatum> from what i have read the latter get dependencies from stable, the former with -t gets dependencies from backports
• 780[15:41:43] <Vatum> (i originally saw an article about that talking about unstable, and grabbing packages from there and the differences between the two commands)
• 781[15:41:45] <dvs> the former
• 782[15:43:11] <Vatum> dvs, alright also, i want to pin the package. i dont want it updated every time i do apt-get dist-upgrade
• 783[15:43:39] <Vatum> reading about pins, it is about other repos like testing or unstable. can it be done with backports?
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• 785[15:44:12] <dvs> Vatum: it can be done with any repo
• 786[15:44:33] <dvs> Vatum: but why don't you want that package to upgrade?
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• 788[15:45:10] <Vatum> dvs, they sometimes have syntax changes from version to version, and we want to first test the new version on a seperate machine before upgrading our main machine
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• 790[15:45:34] <dvs> ok
• 791[15:45:39] <Vatum> and not only config syntax changes, various other things might change
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• 797[15:55:06] <Vatum> dvp, so i go to apt preferances and drop priority of buster-backports right?
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• 799[15:57:21] <dvs> Vatum: the priority of buster-backports is already below stable by default.
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• 801[15:57:46] <dvs> Vatum: apt-cache policy ejabberd
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• 809[16:10:10] <Vatum> dvs, then how does apt-get dist-upgraade, automatically get new updates from backports?
• 810[16:10:18] <Vatum> from packages installed from backports?
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• 812[16:13:23] <dvs> Vatum: backported packages will get upgraded normally. apt knows if a package came from backports and will not override it with a stable package.
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• 816[16:18:32] <Vatum> dvs, what if i want to pin the backported package to a version? as i said
• 817[16:19:39] <dvs> You can do that. But you can just mark the package as hold through apt though.
• 818[16:22:51] <abrotman> you probably shouldn't do that, it would impact your ability to get security updates
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• 834[16:44:41] <alex11> is there any way to send text from a file instantly to your clipboard?
• 835[16:45:36] <derpadmin> xclip?
• 836[16:45:40] <derpadmin> I think...
• 837[16:45:41] <plushtrap> hi
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• 841[16:55:28] <jim> hi
• 842[16:55:48] <daysun> alex11: xclip < file but that goes into your "x clipboard" which means that you paste with your mouse middle button
• 843[16:56:12] <jim> cat aFile | xclip I guess
• 844[16:56:24] <jim> or that
• 845[16:57:01] * daysun cats and pipes jim
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• 848[16:59:40] <alex11> now, now
• 849[16:59:42] <alex11> settle down
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• 857[17:07:43] <henko> I've seen many ways to accomplish that. some make a bridge which aggregates both interfaces. some use ipmetric, some use nmcli and some directly change /etc/network/interfaces
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• 892[17:48:31] <__marco> could you help me to repair a failed upgrade? I am not able to boot anymore so I started from an usb stick and I would like to chroot and run apt from there but there is an issue with glibc:
• 893[17:48:53] <__marco> libc.so.6 version not found (required by libselinux.so.1)
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• 896[17:50:52] <__marco> I can not even launch ls
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• 900[17:54:11] <sney> __marco: libc6 is pretty fundamental. are you seeing that message before or after chroot?
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• 903[17:54:35] <__marco> sney: after I chroot
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• 906[17:55:26] <__marco> command is chroot /mnt where I mounted in /mnt the primary partition of my HD
• 907[17:55:47] <__marco> it contains /bin, /usr, /var, etc. except /home
• 908[17:55:47] <sney> ok, log out of the chroot, and go to /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu on the target disk, and see what 'ls -l libc.so.6' says
• 909[17:56:02] <sney> that's fine, you don't need /home for this stuff.
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• 911[17:57:24] <__marco> sney: symlink to libc-2.28.so
• 912[17:57:50] <__marco> libc-2.28.so is there
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• 914[17:58:16] <sney> ok, that's what it should be. did you fsck this volume before mounting it? if not, unmount it and do that.
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• 916[17:58:39] <__marco> I did run e2fsck and no errors
• 917[17:58:48] <sney> did you with -f?
• 918[17:59:13] <__marco> no I didn't
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• 920[17:59:41] <sney> just to make sure it actually checks
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• 922[17:59:55] <__marco> sney: a precision that I just notice. exact error is GLIBC_2.30 not found, but I have libc 2.28
• 923[18:00:07] <__marco> libc was one of the candidates for upgrade
• 924[18:00:28] <__marco> I wonder if some packages upgraded and libc didn't
• 925[18:00:40] <__marco> in any case I run e2fsck again
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• 927[18:01:18] <sney> libc6 2.30 isn't in any current debian branch, what are you upgrading to?
• 928[18:01:36] <__marco> stable -> testing
• 929[18:01:44] <sney> testing has 2.31.
• 930[18:01:47] <Vatum> i want the apparmor profile from this package: replaced-url
• 931[18:02:00] <Vatum> do i just need /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.ejabberdctl or anything else?
• 932[18:02:03] <__marco> sney: I don't know what to say
• 933[18:02:20] <__marco> sney: so, e2fsck -f did pass
• 934[18:02:23] <__marco> no errors
• 935[18:03:29] <sney> __marco: alright, is libc-2.31.so present in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu?
• 936[18:05:00] <__marco> I would say no
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• 938[18:05:42] <sney> you would say, or you can see that it's not there?
• 939[18:05:45] <foxide> Vatum: You should have that profile by installing the package.
• 940[18:05:48] <__marco> not sure how to see the library version either. I can judge only by the filename (libc-2.28.so)
• 941[18:06:21] <__marco> libc-2.28.so: this is the only file that matches libc-*
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• 944[18:06:36] <sney> ok.
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• 946[18:07:00] <Vatum> foxide, i am using the upstream package from ejabberd, i want to see the profile, so i can adapt it.
• 947[18:07:06] <Vatum> do i need only the file i mentioned?
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• 949[18:08:29] <sney> __marco: if this doesn't work, it's good that you have access to your disk, because backup and reinstall is the next step. download the libc6 2.31-9 deb from replaced-url
• 950[18:08:57] <__marco> sney: ok, I try
• 951[18:09:03] <__marco> sney: thanks
• 952[18:09:06] <sney> np
• 953[18:10:30] <sney> if you don't already know, 'ar' is the tool to extract the 2 tarballs from a deb package. ar x foo.deb, and then the contents are in the data tarball
• 954[18:11:14] <__marco> I tried dpkg but it also refuses to run with the same message. I try to extract manually
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• 956[18:14:20] <__marco> sney: it worked! at least ls works now
• 957[18:14:33] <__marco> I try to recover the installation
• 958[18:14:35] <sney> great!
• 959[18:14:36] <__marco> thanks
• 960[18:15:52] <Vatum> foxide, ?
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• 975[18:31:51] <foxide> I think Carlito and Caladea are the clones.
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• 994[18:45:51] <Zereges> Hello, I encountered a problem with installing samba on Debian, and it seems there is some issue with the package (discussed with people at #samba), can someone point me to right direction? I described the problem on serverfault
• 995[18:45:52] <Zereges> replaced-url
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• 1002[18:52:13] <sney> Zereges: it looks like something is blowing up on postinst, does your server have any apparmor customizations, weird mount options for /var, anything that you changed system-wide after installing?
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• 1004[18:53:34] <Zereges> sney I don't remember tampering with anything like that, I installed it several years ago
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• 1007[18:54:19] <abrotman> did someone manually remove config files?
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• 1010[18:54:55] <Zereges> File /etc/samba/smb.conf is there if that is the question
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• 1012[18:55:54] <__marco> sney: it seems I cannot recover the installation. I try to backup the partition (mainly /opt and /etc) and reinstall Debian
• 1013[18:56:23] <abrotman> Zereges: does /etc/apparmor.d/samba/ exist?
• 1014[18:56:37] <sney> __marco: alright. if you want to go straight to testing, the alpha3 from debian.org/devel/debian-installer is pretty reliable.
• 1015[18:56:53] <Zereges> abrotman yes drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 24 15:08 /etc/apparmor.d/samba/
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• 1019[19:00:20] <sney> Zereges: can you reinstall samba-common and samba-common-bin? it looks like they (rather than the samba package itself) are where samba's /var stuff is populated, and may be related here
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• 1023[19:02:58] <Zereges> sney well, that did the trick, seems to be working. Samba installation finished and smbd is running
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• 1025[19:04:18] <Zereges> Thank you
• 1026[19:04:21] <sney> np
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• 1032[19:13:41] <__marco> one last question. Do you know how to retrieve the list of installed packages from the filesystem, i.e. not using dpkg -l or similar?
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• 1034[19:18:15] <elwisp> is there a way to ignore gateway check when doing the network setup in the installer?
• 1035[19:18:33] <elwisp> Makes it impossible to install when the gateway is in anothe rsubnet
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• 1060[19:49:56] <Lope> ratrace, sometimes I've done an install where I couldn't use the USB keyboard to enter luks password etc. And I had to add this to make it work: GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="usb usb_keyboard"
• 1061[19:50:06] <Lope> But then the need to do that, seemed to go away.
• 1062[19:50:21] <Lope> Do you think it's a good thing to have as a precaution?
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• 1113[20:35:55] <GenTooMan> I have a USB drive that "didn't mount" I know it's USB ID any suggestion as to find out what it's status is or why it didn't mount?
• 1114[20:36:26] <sney> watch dmesg output when you plug it in.
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• 1126[20:48:19] <dob1> with only linux (debian) pc what are the options for a centralized user management system? I would like to crete the user on the main pc and have the home/whatever for this user on another pc
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• 1128[20:51:41] <ialokin> dob1: you could use ldap for authentication
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• 1131[20:54:40] <dob1> ialokin, it seems a bit complicated or am I wrong?
• 1132[20:56:46] <powerhouse> I am running a debian vm via virtualization from Centos&. I can see my ihpone in Centos7 via "lsusb" but I do not see my Ihpone8 in debia via "lsusb". How can I achieve the desired result?
• 1133[20:57:08] <dob1> powerhouse, it's virtualbox?
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• 1135[20:57:21] <sney> powerhouse: you will have to passthrough the usb device from the host hypervisor
• 1136[20:57:37] <powerhouse> dob1, Virt Viewer.
• 1137[20:57:55] <powerhouse> sney, okay. Any direction how I can achieve that. This is new for me.
• 1138[20:58:29] <sney> powerhouse: look up 'qemu usb passthrough' online, there are a lot of docs
• 1139[20:58:41] <powerhouse> sney, thank you Kindsir
• 1140[20:58:44] <sney> np.
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• 1146[21:04:16] <sney> dob1: there's always nis/nfs for the old-school UNIX way of sharing logins and home directories etc. I've never used it but it's probably simpler than ldap+kerberos approaches, and should be secure enough for a couple machines on a local network
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• 1152[21:13:20] <dob1> sney, why nfs ? I used it but I just exported directories
• 1153[21:13:57] <zutat> powerhouse: is it possible to transfer data between an iphone and a linux computer?
• 1154[21:15:39] <shtrb> yes
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• 1156[21:19:57] <zutat> shtrb: answering me?
• 1157[21:20:25] <shtrb> yes
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• 1159[21:20:48] <zutat> shtrb: cool. any pointers?
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• 1161[21:21:00] <shtrb> yes
• 1162[21:21:23] <shtrb> 0x8e9c10ff
• 1163[21:23:52] <GenTooMan> it would be nice to be able to get the physical case serial # to match the USB serial # with western digital drives (sigh).
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• 1167[21:24:52] <sney> dob1: they integrate together natively, iirc
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• 1169[21:25:58] <shtrb> zutat, you could start with replaced-url
• 1170[21:26:35] <zutat> shtrb: thank you
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• 1173[21:27:12] <dob1> but ldap on debian means openldap right?
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• 1175[21:28:03] <shtrb> one of the easiest solution would be slapd (which is openldap)
• 1176[21:28:51] <jmcnaught> 389-ds is also in Debian.
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• 1178[21:29:21] <jmcnaught> oh and apacheds, but openldap is probably the most popular.
• 1179[21:30:11] <sney> and yes, ldap is complicated. but if you learn it once you can put it on your resume.
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• 1181[21:32:16] <dob1> any suggestion where to start ? I was looking at tutorial at debian but maybe something else?
• 1182[21:32:52] <shtrb> there was an amazing tuts at debian-administration RIP
• 1183[21:33:01] <dob1> was??
• 1184[21:33:31] <shtrb> site is gone , only web archive exist
• 1185[21:33:52] <dob1> what was the domain? debian-administration.org?
• 1186[21:34:10] <shtrb> yes
• 1187[21:35:15] <dob1> I take a look, thanks
• 1188[21:35:59] <shtrb> !ldap
• 1189[21:35:59] <dpkg> Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) is a client/server protocol for accessing a directory service. Ask me about <openldap>. replaced-url
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• 1191[21:36:09] <shtrb> dob1, ^
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• 1205[21:51:19] <powerhouse> zutat, I am figuring that out now. I believe so since we can jailbreak the phones. In my Fedora my Iphone was picked up in Bluetooth. Testing now.
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• 1237[22:31:27] <rander2> hello all
• 1238[22:32:08] <dvs> oi
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• 1243[22:38:21] <dff> anyone here have an asus xg-c100c nic?
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• 1247[22:39:49] <sney> !anyone
• 1248[22:39:49] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
• 1249[22:40:06] <sney> #debian volunteers are good at troubleshooting, even with hardware we don't physically own.
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• 1257[22:45:36] <dff> i dont have a problem, im considering buying one :)
• 1258[22:46:25] <dff> ive spent a good hour checking search engine results
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• 1261[22:49:04] <dff> so my question would be, how well does the drivers or kernal module work for the xg-c100c in debian?
• 1262[22:50:39] <dff> Driver Package Version 5.0.2.2 to be specific
• 1263[22:50:48] <rander2> replaced-url
• 1264[22:50:58] <rander2> how may I solve it ?
• 1265[22:51:29] <sney> dff: well, google says the actual chip is a marvell aqc-107, which is supported by the 'atlantic' module, which is present in linux 4.19, so you should not need to download any driver from asus.
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• 1269[22:52:34] <dff> google also finds a fair amount of users with problems with that module and the asus driver
• 1270[22:52:51] <dff> ill give it go though
• 1271[22:52:53] <dff> thanks
• 1272[22:53:02] <sney> I would not recommend that you buy a nic that requires a non-free driver download
• 1273[22:53:09] <ratrace> rander2: ask #kali
• 1274[22:54:03] <rander2> ratrace, it's on invite, and I haven't invite
• 1275[22:54:17] <sney> the kali channel is #kali-linux
• 1276[22:54:32] <ratrace> rander2: tough luck
• 1277[22:54:39] <rander2> on #kali-linux nobody answer me sorry
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• 1279[22:55:27] <sney> rander2: yes, because kali is not a desktop OS for newbies, they are not interested in helping you learn linux fundamentals. and #debian is not for derivative distros.
• 1280[22:55:47] <dff> sney: this nic qualifies then right? replaced-url
• 1281[22:55:49] <sney> you have discovered the thing that all kali newbies eventually discover.
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• 1283[22:56:08] <sney> dff: yes, that's the mainline driver I mentioned
• 1284[22:56:25] <dff> good stuff
• 1285[22:56:28] <dff> thanks again
• 1286[22:56:35] <rander2> sney, they are interested to advanced questions, not to help the foundamentals
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• 1288[22:57:00] <sney> rander2: yes, that's what I said.
• 1289[22:57:17] <rander2> ok, understood thx
• 1290[22:57:32] <sney> !they don't know
• 1291[22:57:33] <dpkg> We're sorry your distro's channel isn't being helpful, but that doesn't make it appropriate to use #debian for non-Debian questions. Please go back to your channel and wait patiently for better help, or install Debian and party with us.
• 1292[22:57:42] <ratrace> rander2: install debian and you won't have issues with libc breakage
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• 1294[22:57:57] <ratrace> that's the answer to "how may I solve it"
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• 1312[23:30:49] <sponix> anyone having good luck with the nvidia 460.32 from backports and a GTX 900 series card ?
• 1313[23:33:45] <jhutchins> rander2: Just an irc support tip: Pastebins are good, but you should also post a summary of your problem so people will know if it's worth their time to look./
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• 1327[23:53:50] <unixbsd> stella atari: stella -video software space-invaders.a26 does not work. it shows up that an error with framebuffer occurs. Is it possible that this runs on X11 window?
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• 1329[23:54:56] <sney> sponix: I'm sure we don't need to tell you about asking "anyone" questions; 460.32 is fine with the gtx 1070 in this system and the 9xx series are listed as supported, what's your real problem?
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• 1332[23:57:41] <sponix> sney: well, I now have my GPU down a slot and it seemed to be a solution. BUT, it isn't -- every week or two I still get a GUI freeze with everything underneath still running
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• 1334[23:58:02] <sponix> sney: still hoping to find a solution
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