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5 [02:19:48] <L1nuxg33k> wow step afk for an our and freenode
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1565 [03:41:25] <TSMI> I have a missing firmware issue. The manual
says to download the package and place it in the root directory of
the media device, which I did, but still no luck. Do I have to
unpack the .deb?
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1567 [03:42:08] <dvs> TSMI, are you trying to do an install?
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1570 [03:43:19] <TSMI> dvs, yes
1571 [03:43:26] <dvs> !firmware iso
1572 [03:43:27] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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1574 [03:43:59] <TSMI> dvs, already using it. But doesnt have the
firmware package
1575 [03:44:20] <TSMI> Ill try and extract the .deb inside
firmware on the usb stick
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1578 [03:44:54] <dvs> TSMI ??? It has several firmware packages
and it automatically uses them during the install
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1586 [03:47:13] <TSMI> dvs, right, I understand the concept. But
it does not have the firmware I need to proceed.
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1588 [03:47:27] <dvs> Which firmware is that?
1589 [03:47:51] <TSMI> rtl_nic/rtl868e-3.fw
1590 [03:48:52] <dvs> you're missing a number
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1592 [03:49:13] <TSMI> Probably, I typed it onto my tablet from
the screen
1593 [03:50:06] <mrrhq> Your best bet would be to use a dedicated
NIC, or just not use Ethernet. That's what the firmware is for.
You should still be able to use Wi-Fi, unless that also needs
non-free drivers.
1594 [03:50:07] <dvs> Anyways, you don't have to unpack the
deb
1595 [03:51:04] <TSMI> dvs, then how do I let the system know to
install the fw from the deb?
1596 [03:51:28] <TSMI> mrrhq, wifi needs non free driver as well
1597 [03:51:37] <dvs> TSMI, If the kernel supports that firmware,
it will try and find it
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1600 [03:52:16] <TSMI> I put the deb in the root directory, the
manual said that would be ok
1601 [03:52:37] <dvs> sorry, gotta go
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1603 [03:52:41] <mrrhq> TSMI: My condolences. You could put the
firmware on a flash drive and install it from there into
/lib/firmware temporarily.
1604 [03:52:49] <TSMI> The iso is 8.5, I downloaded the deb for
stable, all arch
1605 [03:53:13] <TSMI> And put it in the root of the usb stick I
am booting from
1606 [03:53:19] <TSMI> Not sure where Ive gone wrong
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1609 [03:54:37] <mrrhq> TSMI: If you have the .deb file, you can
install it with sudo dpkg -i <myfile.deb>
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1611 [03:54:47] <mrrhq> If you have a shell.
1612 [03:55:10] <TSMI> mrrhq, no, I am still trying to install
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1614 [03:55:56] <mrrhq> TSMI: You can still finish the Debian
installation, and install the network firmware later.
1615 [03:56:18] <TSMI> I am reburning the usb ISO anyway, get a
syslinux error on boot (though pressing enter takes me to the main
screen anyway)
1616 [03:56:48] <TSMI> mrrhq, not an option sadly. No access to
wired ethernet, or a machine that can write to usb sticks
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1620 [03:59:01] <mrrhq> I always have a USB dongle for Wi-Fi that
I know works on Linux, just in case that stuff happens. :p
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1624 [04:01:32] <TSMI> mrrhq, I can treat my tablet as a wired
connection if I plug it into the usb port in ubuntu. I think that
requires some drivers to work though, not aure
1625 [04:01:48] <TSMI> I tried doing that in the install to see if
it would pick it up
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1629 [04:02:37] <mrrhq> TSMI: Not sure how that works either.
Could be USB tethering.
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1632 [04:03:38] <TSMI> Yeah. Hang on... I guess I could install
debian, then install the firmware deb manually post install and just
kind of hope it works :/
1633 [04:04:26] <TSMI> Hmm too risky
1634 [04:04:30] <mrrhq> It does suck that Debian doesn't come
with proprietary drivers installed by default. It is certainly a
distro for intermediary/experianced users.
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1636 [04:04:52] <mrrhq> Most people would probably quit at the
point you're at now, lol.
1637 [04:04:59] <kcirick> TSMI: Why not put the fimrware on your
USB drive and install from that once you have installed the system?
1638 [04:05:11] <mrrhq> That's what I said, too.
1639 [04:05:19] <kcirick> Why wouldn't that work?
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1644 [04:05:37] <TSMI> still seems risky
1645 [04:05:45] <kcirick> What's risky about it?
1646 [04:06:01] <TSMI> What if theres further issues with wireless
at that point?
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1651 [04:06:37] <kcirick> TSMI: Do you have some sort of
non-standard wireless setup?
1652 [04:06:50] <mrrhq> TSMI: I dunno. If there are, don't
hesitate to ask for help. :)
1653 [04:07:04] <mrrhq> Sounds like you just need the firmware.
1654 [04:07:11] <kcirick> If it's just a standard wireless
wireless-tools will take care of it
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1656 [04:07:19] <TSMI> kcirick, weird drivers
1657 [04:07:45] <kcirick> TSMI: Is your driver very new?
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1659 [04:07:55] <TSMI> Actually reading some more docs, I should
be able to usb tether the tablet, and just configure the installer
to connect to usb0 or whatever
1660 [04:07:57] <kcirick> i mean your wireless card
1661 [04:08:05] <TSMI> No
1662 [04:08:14] <TSMI> I am using the firmware nonfree install
1663 [04:08:21] <kcirick> Then kernel+firmware will work
1664 [04:08:21] <TSMI> Not there, it seems
1665 [04:08:32] <kcirick> TSMI: What's your card?
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1667 [04:10:14] <TSMI> rtl_nic/rtl868e-3.fw
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1669 [04:10:27] <TSMI> Missing a number copied it from the
screen..
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1671 [04:10:40] <kcirick> TSMI: I dont understand... so you
already have that firmware?
1672 [04:10:59] <kcirick> What's the output of 'lspci |
grep Network'?
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1677 [04:12:47] <TSMI> Does the installer have a shell?
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1680 [04:13:19] <TSMI> kcirck, copied it from the installer
screen, it says its missi g
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1682 [04:13:44] <kcirick> TSMI: once you finish installing, and
reboot, you have the shell without network access
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1684 [04:14:06] <TSMI> kcirck, then I have no way of installing a
driver
1685 [04:14:20] <kcirick> put the firmware on your usbstick
1686 [04:14:42] <kcirick> then mount your usbstick and copy the
firmware onto /lib/firmware
1687 [04:15:13] <kcirick> you dont need network to mount a usb
stick
1688 [04:15:18] <TSMI> The firmware is in the usb
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1690 [04:15:30] <TSMI> The package I need is in /firmware
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1692 [04:16:09] <kcirick> TSMI: forget packages, just download the
whole tree from kernel.org:
replaced-url
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1697 [04:17:10] <kcirick> Or just get the file you need:
replaced-url
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1700 [04:17:57] <TSMI> Let me abort the installation and boot back
to ubuntu. Ill download that
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1707 [04:18:59] <kcirick> TSMI: If you download the whole tree,
then there is a makefile inside where you can do "make
install" and it will copy all of the firmware to /lib/firmware
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1713 [04:21:11] <kcirick> This is one quirk about Debian, due to
all the license BS... they can't just have one
'firmware' package that includes everything
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1718 [04:24:12] <hugleo> I've installed a driver using
dkms.conf and ever time that a reboot the original kernel is loaded.
I have to do modprobe -r and modprobe -i to that to work. Dou you
anybody know how can I solve it?
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1720 [04:24:50] <TSMI> Thats not the issue. The firmware file is
in the deb package. The system isnt scanning it
1721 [04:25:09] <TSMI> Ill just unpack it. The manual is incorrect
or misleading.
1722 [04:25:49] <kcirick> TSMI: I'm not really sure what the
installer does. I don't trust it 100% :-P
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1740 [04:36:02] <TSMI> yeah the installer now picks up the
ethernet driver after manually unpacking. But only tries connecting
to eth0
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1747 [04:39:22] <kcirick> TSMI: which installer are you using?
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1751 [04:40:21] <TSMI> 8.5
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1755 [04:41:52] <markybob> he's asking for the exact url of
it. like he asked for the exact lspci info. you don't give
details so no one really wants to get involved. he wan't the
first to ask you (dvs) and you go around and around. it's
tiring.
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1758 [04:42:41] <markybob> wasn't* the first
1759 [04:42:47] <kcirick> markybob: you drilled me on this when I
was installing :-)
1760 [04:43:48] <markybob> kcirick: yeah sounds like me.
don't remember to be honest :P
1761 [04:44:00] <TSMI> fair enough. I was unable to give the lspci
details as I was in the installer. Anyway, I am probably giving up
for today thanks for the help
1762 [04:44:15] <kcirick> markybob: I remember you very well. You
taught me well :-)
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1764 [04:44:31] <markybob> kcirick: glad i helped :)
1765 [04:44:33] <kcirick> TSMI: did you read through this?
replaced-url
1766 [04:45:18] <TSMI> Yes. I referenced it earlier in the convo.
Its slightly misleading
1767 [04:45:40] <TSMI> You can simply write the .deb to the root
of the boot medium. You need to unpack it
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1769 [04:45:58] <TSMI> s/can/can't
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1813 [05:20:39] <eyeris> My system waits 1m30s for my disks and
then gives up and says "welcome to emergency mode" without
a login prompt. If I go to the VT9 debug shell and run "mount
/dev/sda1 /boot" during that 1m30s delay it boots up fine.
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1827 [05:34:44] <SilverWhitefish> is the user:group media_rw the
same as sdcard_rw?
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1831 [05:38:09] <SilverWhitefish> never mind. instead of follwing
all the syslinks i just went into /data/media/* and did what i
needed to do.
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1901 [06:28:03] <up2late> if i want to uninstall telnet whats it
called? sudo apt-get uninstall telnet didnt work
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1903 [06:28:25] <up2late> i dont remmeber the proper command
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1910 [06:29:43] <up2late> thats it
1911 [06:29:43] <up2late> thanks
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1919 [06:37:45] <mrrhq> Not sure if telnet-ssl is backwards
compatible with telnet, but sometimes routers use it. I never enable
it...
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2032 [07:50:21] <bhurstpdx1> is there a way to undo apt-get
autoremove besides looking at /var/log/apt/history.log and
reinstalling packages manually?
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2035 [07:56:11] <awal1> bhurstpdx1, autoremove removes the
automatically installed pkgs (deps, recommends, basically).
reinstalling the pkg removed will reinstall those deps/recommends
2036 [07:57:13] <awal1> -1 = -2, 3, 4... so +1 = +2, 3, 4
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2039 [07:57:26] <awal1> :D
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2046 [08:00:20] <awal1> aptitude -f install may reinstall them all
(main pkg + it's deps/recommends) if you havent used --purge
with autoremove for apt-get/apt or aptitude, bhurstpdx1
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2055 [08:09:24] <bhurstpdx1> Thanks awall!
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2058 [08:11:12] <bhurstpdx1> looks like I was able to reinstall
everything manually. next time I inevitably screw up, i'll
remeber that!
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2083 [08:25:30] <ocb> hello
2084 [08:26:01] <a1batr0ss> hi
2085 [08:26:23] <ocb> running debian wheezy and having latest php5
installed from repo (php5_5.4.45-0+deb7u4), it's obsolete, am I
right?
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2094 [08:28:17] <ocb> ls -la
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2096 [08:29:34] <rozie> ocb:
replaced-url
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2100 [08:31:37] <ocb> rozie: I have seen that, but debian
doesn't backport some updates even after EOL?
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2102 [08:32:10] <rozie> it may have *some* updates (see changelog)
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2109 [08:33:04] <ocb> ok thanks
/usr/share/doc/php5-common/changelog.Debian.gz
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2125 [08:38:37] <Haohmaru> does the debian 8.4 desktop iso (i386)
use "isolinux" or something else?
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2160 [08:56:24] <discovered> what you do when debian system freeze
completely? Mouse,Keyboard does not move at all
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2163 [08:58:57] <Haohmaru> discovered, ctrl+alt+F1
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2165 [08:59:21] <discovered> What it will do? Task Manager will be
opened?
2166 [08:59:24] <Haohmaru> and, does the numlock or capslock work
(does it toggle the LED on the keyboard) ?
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2169 [08:59:43] <Haohmaru> no, that would switch to another
textmode thing
2170 [09:00:02] <Haohmaru> so that you can log in and execute
commands
2171 [09:00:03] <ocb> hmmm I can't get it, what kind of
patches does debian LTS support make for obsolete packages, all or
just critical?
2172 [09:00:16] <discovered> okay ok....
2173 [09:00:28] <ocb> for example, php5-5.4.45+deb7u4
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2175 [09:00:47] <ocb> I see even the php is obsolete the 5.4.45
there are backported patches
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2180 [09:01:42] <mrrhq> discovered: Hard freeze, as in can't
get to a tty?
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2183 [09:02:04] <discovered> no.
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2185 [09:03:09] <discovered> I did not try this.... I simply
rebooted with power button
2186 [09:03:18] <angor> :)
2187 [09:03:21] <discovered> I will try it next time
2188 [09:03:39] <angor> play now, when system still alive
2189 [09:04:03] <angor> in text mode you can switch from alt-f1 to
alt-f6, alt-f7 will return to X
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2191 [09:04:31] <saunamees> I cannot figure out these tap
interfaces on VM-s -.-
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2195 [09:04:59] <mrrhq> discovered: You can check logs with sudo
pager /var/log/syslog and see if anything looks odd during the
crash.
2196 [09:05:07] <mrrhq> Or, actually, journalctl -xb
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2199 [09:06:53] <saunamees> I have bridge set up bridge
permamently, now how do I get connection for VM with tap, It never
can use the dhcp or anything, only if I give the ip of my bridge, it
get connection
2200 [09:07:15] <saunamees> but then I lose connection on host
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2220 [09:18:15] <MaBunny> Is Google Mock (or GMock ) available for
debian jessie ???
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2290 [09:55:08] <colo-work> I'd like to migrate a physical
Debian Wheezy installation into an LXC (or other; maybe
systemd's machinectl is up for that task?) container on a
Debian Jessie host. is there a chance this could work by just
copying over the phys. (wheezy) host's filesystem into an
existing lxc container directory?
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2292 [09:55:13] <colo-work> has anyone of you ever tried that?
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2343 [10:14:58] <Anonymes> Hi
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2370 [10:26:38] <renergy> still wonder, why APT is accessed with
"apt-get" and not simply "apt" command
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2377 [10:28:49] <rdz> renergy, what do you mean? apt is supposed
to be a more end-user-friendly command, but both cover similar tasks
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2382 [10:30:06] <renergy> rdz: apt is a command?
2383 [10:30:19] <renergy> I meant - instead of "apt-get
update", one would call just "apt update"
2384 [10:30:29] <renergy> instead of "apt-get clean"
-> "apt clean"
2385 [10:30:41] <renergy> the "-get" part of
"apt-get" kind of irritates me
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2390 [10:31:20] <rdz> renergy, in debian jessie there indeed is an
'apt' command
2391 [10:31:30] <rdz> you can do: apt update, apt upgrade
2392 [10:31:59] <rdz> there is no 'clean' command,
though
2393 [10:32:17] <renergy> rdz: thank you for the info
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2412 [10:43:22] <ioanm> hi, I have this issue in
xserver-xorg-video-ati version 7.5.0 TearFree is not available
(using Debian Jessie Stable)
2413 [10:43:51] <peterrooney> renergy: apt-cache, apt-file,
apt-rdepends, apt-listchanges, apt-src ...
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2420 [10:47:52] <renergy> peterrooney: thanks
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2457 [10:55:23] <t4nk762> Hey guys, I've a problem with
golang.org language, I'm running on Debian 8. Basically my
Go's net.Dialer only makes IPv4 connections by default, but my
server seems to be only listening on IPv6. Creating this error
net.Dial(tcp, "localhost:8089") got error: dial tcp
127.0.0.1:8089: getsockopt: connection refused
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2460 [10:57:26] <t4nk762> Hey guys, I've a problem with
golang.org language, I'm running on Debian 8. Basically my
Go's net.Dialer only makes IPv4 connections by default, but my
server seems to be only listening on IPv6. Creating this error
"net.Dial(tcp, "localhost:8089") got error: dial tcp
127.0.0.1:8089: getsockopt: connection refused". How can I
automatically configure any IPv4 Dial to transform into a IPv6 Dial,
or how can I make my debian 8 server lis
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2479 [11:08:50] <ioanm> okay I heard i can move from debian jessie
stable to testing, how?
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2482 [11:10:54] <t4nk762> Hey guys, I've a problem with
golang.org language, I'm running on Debian 8. Basically my
Go's net.Dialer only makes IPv4 connections by default, but my
server seems to be only listening on IPv6. Creating this error
"net.Dial(tcp, "localhost:8089") got error: dial tcp
127.0.0.1:8089: getsockopt: connection refused". How can I
automatically configure any IPv4 Dial to transform into a IPv6 Dial,
or how can I make my debian 8 server lis
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2485 [11:11:30] <up2late>
replaced-url
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2492 [11:14:55] <ioanm> up2late, yeah you certainly solved it
2493 [11:15:16] <ChrisH> t4nk762: netstat -an | grep 8089
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2498 [11:17:47] <up2late> ioanm: your welcome
2499 [11:17:59] <up2late> *you're
2500 [11:18:21] <ioanm> well better closed my programs, upgrading
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2504 [11:23:33] <t4nk762> ChrisH: Did it already with fuser
8089/tcp beforehand
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2507 [11:24:58] <t4nk762> brb
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2580 [12:12:09] <t4nk762> Hey guys, I've a problem with
golang.org language, I'm running on Debian 8. Basically my
Go's net.Dialer only makes IPv4 connections by default, but my
server seems to be only listening on IPv6. Creating this error
"net.Dial(tcp, "localhost:8089") got error: dial tcp
127.0.0.1:8089: getsockopt: connection refused". How can I
automatically configure any IPv4 Dial to transform into a IPv6 Dial,
or how can I make my debian 8 server lis
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2608 [12:25:15] <debianoob> can someone help me?
2609 [12:25:30] <debianoob> I want to change to debian testing
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2611 [12:25:46] <debianoob> if I change sources.list from jessie
to testing, will that work?
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2627 [12:35:11] <mikejw> I'm trying these sendmail settings
for use with mailtrap but I'm getting connection timed out in
the logs:
2628 [12:35:14] <mikejw>
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2658 [12:47:19] <Prottey> Say, I need to rename the orig tarball
for a certain weird reason. Once I download source and unpack it, I
rename both the tarball (foo_0.12.orig.tar.xz to
foo_0.12-tag.orig.tar.gz) and the directory (foo-0.12 to
foo-0.12-tag)
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2660 [12:48:01] <thms> Prottey: and then ?
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2662 [12:48:21] <Prottey> However when I try debuild, it calls
dpkg-source again, which in turn thinks the orig tarball still has
the old name
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2664 [12:48:45] <thms> what the hell
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2666 [12:49:00] <thms> either just rename the .xz or .tgz and
thats it; no need to unpack
2667 [12:49:09] <thms> either unpack and re-pack if it's not
too big
2668 [12:49:44] <thms> why did you rename a .tar.xz to a .tar.gz
btw ?
2669 [12:49:50] <Prottey> I did run find and rgrep, but I
haven't found old name or version mentioned anywhere, except
old entries in changelog (I added one with a new name via dch -i)
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2671 [12:50:14] <Prottey> s/gz/xz/
2672 [12:50:16] <thms> paste the error somewhere pls
2673 [12:50:30] <Prottey> typo
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2675 [12:50:34] <thms> ok
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2677 [12:51:00] <thms> I don't get your "debuild"
2678 [12:51:07] <thms> and why you unpack to rename an archive
2679 [12:51:09] <Prottey> moreover, even removing all the old
entries from changelog doesn't help either
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2681 [12:51:31] <thms> just mv orig.tgz new.tgz and then tar xzvf
new.tgz ...
2682 [12:51:44] <Prottey> "debuild -S -sa" command
2683 [12:52:03] <Prottey> should be basically similar to
dpkg-buildpackage or something
2684 [12:52:09] <thms> what the heck are you doing
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2686 [12:52:15] <thms> yeah it's for debian packages
2687 [12:52:42] <thms> Mh ok finally understood what you're
trying to achieve
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2689 [12:53:29] <thms> Yeah I think you'd have to build the
package again. Can't really help sorry
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2692 [12:54:56] <Pat2_> hello all
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2695 [12:55:57] <Pat2_> i didn't find any solutions anywhere
to my question that is : is there a sources.list for squeeze. i want
just install memtest86+
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2702 [12:58:02] <Pat2> my question server for squeeze ? or would
there be a solution to install memtest86+ ?deb-src ?
2703 [12:58:31] <Prottey> actually, after running
'dpkg-source -b foo-0.12-tag' it says 'no upstream
tarball found at foo_0.12.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}'
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2706 [13:00:20] <thms> Prottey: there's a debian developpers
channel, i think you should try your luck there
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2708 [13:01:08] <Iridos> there's #debian-mentors on oftc ...
but they're more for helping new developers package official
debian packages
2709 [13:01:42] <Prottey> they say #debian-devel is invite-only
2710 [13:02:04] <Prottey> sent a knock
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2723 [13:06:11] <Prottey> I think I got it anyway
2724 [13:06:29] <Prottey> it's some weird changelog semantics
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2727 [13:07:31] <bazhang> !doesn't work
2728 [13:07:31] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague
statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it
procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for
change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it
isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without
needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error
message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco>
and <errors>.
2729 [13:08:10] <Pat2> solution was here : deb
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2807 [13:57:21] <ioanm> I have this wierd select issue in HexChat
textbox, the cursor with mouse selects characters a few pixels to
it's right
2808 [13:57:31] <ioanm> is that general, for everyone or just me?
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2815 [14:00:25] <Aaron> ioanm: ask that in #hexchat
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2843 [14:13:32] <pflanze> How does Debian or Xfce read startup
files nowadays? It doesn't read ~/.profile anymore.
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2858 [14:18:00] <jubo2> how do I mass delete all email in a
mailbox I read with alpine that is sent by the cron on the
localhost?
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2866 [14:20:19] <musca> !alpine
2867 [14:20:19] <dpkg> Alpine is a cross-platform e-mail client
for the console. It is a rewrite of <Pine>, distributed under
the version 2.0 of the Apache License. It currently has no
<maildir> support (Debian bug #405762).
replaced-url
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2869 [14:20:25] <musca> jubo2:
replaced-url
2870 [14:20:37] <renergy> pflanze: depends on the desktop manager
you're using; I'm using none :) starting X with startx
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2872 [14:20:51] <renergy> pflanze: and have init stuff in
~/.xinitrc
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2884 [14:26:25] <bashman> all: if someone is using dvtm, bash has
a facility with alt backspace to delete the last word (not the same
as ^w which deletes the complete arguement until it encounteres a
space)
2885 [14:26:30] <bashman> this does not seem to work
2886 [14:26:33] <bashman> in dvtm
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2901 [14:31:50] <jubo2> musca: ok thänks
2902 [14:32:04] <backspace> ...
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2904 [14:34:03] <musca> jubo2: ÿw
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2911 [14:36:38] <gerforce> hello, i want to convert .ape file into
.wav file, so i can burn it into a dvd for my car to play. So which
software should i use in Debian jessie? I tried soundconverter,but
it seemed only working for .flac to .wav.
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2913 [14:37:22] <dvs> gerforce, audacity?
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2917 [14:38:29] <gerforce> dvs: working on it
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2925 [14:40:12] <gerforce> dvs: it seems too professional.
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2927 [14:40:31] <gerforce> need some time to get used to it
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2929 [14:40:39] <dvs> gerforce, you just need to load the file and
then export it
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2971 [15:01:31] <gerforce> dvs: yes, but it only supports low
quality convert from ape to wav. I convert from ape to flac first,
and then use soundconverter to convert flac to wav with high
quality.
2972 [15:01:52] <dvs> ok
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2975 [15:02:02] <ifnotnowthenwhy> Hi all, I've got a server
that have both sendmail and postfix installed, both with different
configurations, in the cronjob i got mails successfully going out
via /usr/sbin/sendmail, but how can I figure out which configuration
files /usr/bin/mail is using to send? (sendmail.mc or main.cf from
postfix?)
2976 [15:02:13] <ifnotnowthenwhy> Thanks in advance
2977 [15:02:46] <gerforce> dvs: In my opinion, big file means good
quality. lol
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2981 [15:04:02] <colo-work> ifnotnowthenwhy, afair, Debian
doesn't allow for parallel installations of more than one MTA.
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2983 [15:04:13] <colo-work> how did you figure out which MTAs you
(supposedly) have installed=
2984 [15:04:15] <colo-work> ?
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2993 [15:08:27] <petemc> ifnotnowthenwhy: probably whichever
provides /usr/sbin/sendmail , check with readlink -f
/usr/sbin/sendmail
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3046 [15:35:59] <MaBunny> hey guys have anyone of youtried Google
Mock ??? Its a unit testing framework
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3050 [15:36:50] <mayhew> MaBunny: try #gtest on irc.oftc.net :)
3051 [15:37:00] <MaBunny> thnx
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3138 [16:08:54] <TehRabbitt> okay, so i'm noticing something
very strange.
3139 [16:09:14] <TehRabbitt> when I log into these new
"cloned" debian boxes I made, after changing hostname and
IP, it takes a VERY long time to get a password prompt
3140 [16:09:42] <TehRabbitt> is it just RDNS most liekly?
3141 [16:09:48] <TehRabbitt> likely*
3142 [16:10:13] <TehRabbitt> though even sudo is taking a LONG
time to come up with a prompt.
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3152 [16:12:58] <jelly> TehRabbitt: did you change hostname in all
the right places and does your dns resolving work and do those new
IPs have PTRs in your dns?
3153 [16:13:15] <jelly> !hostname
3154 [16:13:16] <dpkg> Use «hostname foo» to set the
hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot (create
/etc/hostname if it does not exist) and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set up
local translations for a FQDN. See also 'man 1 hostname',
or ask me about <mailname>.
replaced-url
3155 [16:13:23] <TehRabbitt> jelly, I think I missed one. i'm
revewing everything now, just didn't think it would affect sudo
as well just ssh
3156 [16:13:30] <jelly> (/etc/hosts in particular)
3157 [16:13:49] <TehRabbitt> jelly, is there a way to disable rdns
for PAM all together? or is it better to leave it?
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3160 [16:14:55] <jelly> not that I know, and I'm not sure
it's all PAM
3161 [16:15:13] <jelly> both sshd and sudo have reasons to do
lookups in their code
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3163 [16:15:32] <TehRabbitt> jelly, Ah.
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3166 [16:16:07] <TehRabbitt> jelly, i'm guessing mostly for
logging purposes etc? I did do a "UseDNS no" in the
sshd_config and it helped speed that part up, but the main issue was
apparently I had to put the hostname next to 127.0.0.1 and not just
localhost
3167 [16:16:10] <TehRabbitt> it needed both
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3172 [16:16:53] <wrouesnel1> Is there a decent resource on what
packaging with git-buildpackage looks like working from an upstream
repository?
3173 [16:16:54] <jelly> TehRabbitt: it needed _an_ entry for your
fqdn in /etc/hosts, not necessarily 127.0.0.1
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3176 [16:17:32] <jelly> TehRabbitt: if you have a static ip, use
that. "10.9.8.7 hostname.full.domain hostnname"
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3179 [16:17:46] <jelly> leave 127.0.0.1 to be jsut localhost
3180 [16:18:02] <asterismo> one question, what is this systemd
fear that is all over the place?
3181 [16:18:13] <asterismo> what is that? a new kernel?
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3183 [16:19:02] <TehRabbitt> jelly, it's weird, because when
I added the hostname to 127.0.0.1, it sped up
3184 [16:19:16] <TehRabbitt> better practice not to have it tehre
though?
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3193 [16:22:03] <TehRabbitt> jelly, okay so I did just the
127.0.0.1 to localhost, and made a seperate entry for the actual
hostname of the server, and it it's still quick, so i guess
that's all it needed.
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3197 [16:23:22] <TehRabbitt> jelly, now to figure out this
repository stuff :\ basically want to ensure production only gets
security updates on a regular (weekly) basis, and leave regular
updates to monthly. but I can't figure out an easy way to do
that
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3210 [16:24:14] <TehRabbitt> jelly, thanks btw :)
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3222 [16:27:09] <mayhew> asterismo: it's a new init system
(the first process that the kernel executes)
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3265 [16:49:42] <dcpc007> Hi, what are the differences between
sssd and nlscd for ldap clients ? (note that we have debian 7 and
centos/RHEL too in servers)
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3331 [17:14:11] <galex-713> Hi
3332 [17:14:19] <galex-713> why are guile-cairo and guile-gnome
packaged into Debian without info documentation?
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3372 [17:24:47] <jhutchins> dcpc007:
replaced-url
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3375 [17:25:10] <jhutchins> dcpc007: sssd is generally considered
more current.
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3380 [17:26:55] <dcpc007> debian seems to recommand nslcd
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3382 [17:27:24] <dcpc007> i easely found nslcd doc, (+nscd) in the
wiki, but nothing with sssd
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3384 [17:28:36] <dcpc007> some say that id Kerberos need, of full
RHEL go for sssd, and if mixed env go nslcd
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3392 [17:31:43] <jhutchins> dcpc007: I've only seen sssd
used, and only on RedHat/CentOS systems.
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3401 [17:37:21] <dcpc007> ok i'll see but it seems that they
already put nslcd on the cluster, then i'll use the same for
oter servers and computers
3402 [17:37:34] <dcpc007> i'll look for autofs configuration
too i need it ...
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3421 [17:50:00] <jhutchins> dcpc007: That's also supposed to
be better integrated in sssd, but if they've already
implemented nslcd you might as well go with that.
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3424 [17:50:21] <jhutchins> dcpc007: I have't been the one to
implement it, but it seems like there's always one step that
doesn't quite go as documented.
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3435 [17:58:15] <dcpc007> yes, as i don't know many things
about both, i prefer learn only one .. even if not the best ...
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3478 [18:13:20] <jelly> dcpc007: the right way to do it will be to
learn 2-3 implementations well enough to set up the system in _any_
of them, then pick the least buggy
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3497 [18:20:38] <Neville> I am trying to calibrate monitors and
would like to install a color profile under xfce & Dedian.
Please point me in the right direction.
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3512 [18:28:57] <prussian> Neville: argyllcms can load it into
Xorg.
3513 [18:29:26] <prussian> I don't remember which command nor
have a laptop to read the man pages for you.
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3516 [18:30:11] <Neville> I am using displaycal with argyllcms; it
fails to install the profile.
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3518 [18:31:20] <Neville> colord: The profile has been imported.
You may need to manually assign and activate under "Color"
system setting.
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3542 [18:37:49] <jhutchins> I've had surprizingly good luck
simply copying an error message and pasting it into google.
Sometimes it helps to remove system-specific parts of the message.
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3553 [18:43:52] <DrBunsen> Hello, I noticed that the firefox
window has a window title and chrome hasn't. How is this and
how do I edit this? See this example
replaced-url
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3568 [18:48:16] <jhutchins> DrBunsen: That's usually a
setting within the browser.
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3571 [18:48:45] <jhutchins> DrBunsen: For most, F11 gives you a
full screen without borders.
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3575 [18:49:38] <DrBunsen> jhutschin: I know about F11, if you
look at the slimg link I shared you will see that I mean that
without F11 the border is not present in chrome
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3583 [18:52:10] <jhutchins> DrBunsen: Like I said, it's
usually configurable in the browser.
3584 [18:52:28] <jhutchins> DrBunsen: Depends a little on which
display manager you're using, but that's not usually
per-window.
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3588 [18:52:59] <jhutchins> DrBunsen: BTW you should be able to
type a few letters of a nickname and hit tab to auto-complete
(occasionally with amusing errors).
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3591 [18:53:37] <jmcnaught> DrBunsen: there are some gnome related
firefox add-ons that might help you tweak this, but i haven't
tried them
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3593 [18:54:03] <zoug> hello guys, I hear a lot that Debian has an
extremely slow update pace. Is it still suitable for a webserver?
Are security updates applied quickly or should I use another distro?
Thanks!
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3599 [18:54:53] <jmcnaught> zoug: security updates are handled
pretty quickly on Debian
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3601 [18:55:23] <DrBunsen> zoug: I would prefer Debian for a
webserver, it is stable and security udates are rather quick
3602 [18:55:25] <jhutchins> zoug: While packages often have older
version numbers, they are tested and patched.
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3606 [18:55:44] <jmcnaught> zoug: Debian Stable releases keep to
the same versions of all the software they include for their
duration (with some exceptions), so that you don't get surprise
behaviour/config changes when you apply security updates
3607 [18:55:55] <jhutchins> zoug: Many people find Debian ideal
for servers because it's so stable, and it doesn't
sacrifice stability just to have the latest greatest version
numbers.
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3610 [18:56:21] <zoug> Okey, if they're patched when
they're a security flaw then it's all good. Thanks !
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3612 [18:56:39] <zoug> s/they're/there's/
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3638 [19:07:26] <unborn> zoug: been using debian on srv for 7
years.. never had any issues, i am using it on all my machines
(desks/laptops) past 3 moths and also it just works (need doing
ubuntu for about 4 years), so yeah its all good :)
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3684 [19:24:42] <Coolternet> hello guys
3685 [19:24:56] <Coolternet> im using VirtualBox and i have fresh
install of Debian 8.5.0
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3687 [19:25:46] <Coolternet> I have 2 Cdrom (virtual) but my linux
is installed with VCD #0 and after install i set the iso on VCD#1
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3690 [19:26:02] <Coolternet> Now, i need to apt-get update... but
all request is ignored
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3696 [19:26:58] <jelly> Coolternet: if you did not have internet
access during the installation, your repo configuration in
/etc/apt/sources.list may be incomplete
3697 [19:27:04] <jelly> !jessie sources.list
3698 [19:27:04] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb
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3701 [19:27:11] <Coolternet> when i try to install VIM, i have the
message '' please insert disk labeled### "
3702 [19:27:43] <jelly> Coolternet: comment out cdrom entries,
leave only the remote http or ftp ones.
3703 [19:27:44] <Coolternet> i juste need to install VIM because i
need convert dos file to unix
3704 [19:27:59] <jelly> we also have "dos2unix"
3705 [19:28:20] <Coolternet> yeah but i dont have internet on the
VM
3706 [19:28:35] <jelly> perl -pi 's/\r//'
file-to-convert
3707 [19:28:48] <Coolternet> i need perl ?
3708 [19:28:58] <jelly> no, you _have_ perl
3709 [19:29:12] <jelly> that's just one of dozens of ways to
do the conversion
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3711 [19:29:40] <jelly> Coolternet: is there a reason you
don't have internet access?
3712 [19:29:45] <Coolternet> im with RDP and im not able to do \
3713 [19:29:58] <jelly> Coolternet: is there a reason you
don't have internet access?
3714 [19:30:21] <mutante> put vim .deb on floppy, use dpkg -i ..
/me hides
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3717 [19:30:31] <Coolternet> for getting access i need to setting
up /etc/network/interface and set nameserver
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3719 [19:30:44] <jelly> I thought vim-tiny was present in the base
system.
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3721 [19:30:58] <jelly> judd: i vim-tiny
3722 [19:30:59] <judd> Package vim-tiny (editors, important) in
jessie/amd64: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - compact version.
Version: 2:7.4.488-7; Size: 408.1k; Installed: 1051k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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3729 [19:31:44] <jelly> Coolternet: man ascii, copy the backslash
character
3730 [19:32:09] <jelly> "I don't have X or screen or
gpm!"
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3732 [19:32:31] <Grug_> hi all
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3734 [19:33:05] <jelly> Coolternet: why do you have two virtual
cdrom devices anyway?
3735 [19:33:39] <Coolternet> okay the first CDrom is for my
scripts and the second for Linux CD
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3737 [19:34:00] <Coolternet> i try to have an automatic system :(
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3744 [19:35:37] <jelly> Coolternet: surely you can switch their
places
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3748 [19:36:19] <Coolternet> i have some customers with VM and
they have no acces to VirtualBox
3749 [19:36:20] <brimonk> Hey all. Quick question, is the version
of qemu that's in sid really 1.2.6? Or is it the 1.2.6 Debian
version, which is just the Debian name for qemu 2.6.0.
3750 [19:36:23] <mutante> Coolternet: cant you just actually
insert the needed CD?
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3752 [19:37:04] <jelly> Coolternet: and you can't mount, copy
the scripts to the system, umount, put debian back in?
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3754 [19:37:29] <Coolternet> no... if the ppl want to format VM,
they can't do that. That's why i need 2 CDrom
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3756 [19:37:37] <Coolternet> vim.tiny is perfect :)
3757 [19:37:57] <jelly> Coolternet: first set up vbox images, THEN
when they're ready give them to customers. This setup is silly
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3759 [19:38:35] <dutchfish> hi, is /run recreated on every boot?
and what creates it?
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3762 [19:39:48] <dutchfish> and why is /var/run still needed?
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3774 [19:43:17] <jelly> dutchfish: backwards combatability
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3779 [19:43:40] <dutchfish> ah ok, i overlooked tmpfs also.
Thanks. On par now.
3780 [19:43:42] <jelly> may get removed in stretch maybe
3781 [19:43:59] <dutchfish> jelly, yes, i saw that in sid
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3784 [19:44:19] <dutchfish> jelly, thanks again.
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3797 [19:47:18] <kaboo> I need to run a script at startup to setup
my iptables ruleset. What's the correct way to do this?
3798 [19:47:56] <dutchfish> kaboo,
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3813 [19:52:18] <simonlnu> jelly: combatibility ? :)
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3815 [19:52:35] <Coolternet> i have creat my own script :
replaced-url
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3820 [19:53:13] <Coolternet> if u want to use it :) let's go
:) if you have any enhancement, juste comment the source
3821 [19:53:45] <jelly> iptables-persistent is kind of good enough
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3823 [19:54:08] <jelly> with -m comment for every rule
3824 [19:54:33] <Coolternet> i use it because each time i restart
the VM, i lost all rules pfff idk why
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3826 [19:54:46] <Coolternet> but with perssistance it's seem
to be ok
3827 [19:56:11] <simonlnu> brimonk: Version: 1:2.6+dfsg-3 the 1:
is an epoch; it's used in package versioning. the version is
2.6+dfsg (the +dfsg is to make the package comply with Debian's
packaging guidelines). So you're looking at 2.6 for upstream
version.
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3830 [19:56:45] <simonlnu> brimonk: to make the upstream software
comply with those guidelines, rather
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3833 [19:57:30] <brimonk> simonlnu: Thank you!
3834 [19:57:32] <simonlnu> brimonk: usually because of docs
included have a non-dfsg free license, or some other reason.
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3836 [19:58:03] <brimonk> simonlnu: Now, next question. Is there
an easy way to have two versions of qemu, stable & unstable
3837 [19:58:14] <simonlnu> not recommended
3838 [19:58:28] <brimonk> I didn't think so.
3839 [19:58:30] <simonlnu> and no. a package can't have 2
versions of itself at once.
3840 [19:58:30] <brimonk> I got it,
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3842 [19:58:41] <simonlnu> installed*
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3844 [19:58:45] <brimonk> I'll virtualize Debian unstable,
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3847 [19:59:16] <brimonk> And I'll pass my gfx card through
to unstable, then I'll install the newer version of qemu, then
I'll be able to virtualize windows perfectly.
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3903 [20:24:41] <MisterGadfly> Anyone know of a "json
builder" or something like that to make writing json easier?
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3993 [21:02:24] <yeehaw94> I
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4000 [21:04:23] <yeehaw94> I'm trying to configure lirc in
debian 8.5 but the package installer doesn't give me a list of
remotes to configure (like in ubuntu). By default the remote works
partially in xbmc but the OK and back button do not work. How is
this supposed to work?
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4019 [21:11:51] <yeehaw94> backports it is, then...
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4030 [21:16:29] <frog__> hi
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4037 [21:18:12] <frog__> i'm fairly new to debian. i'm
running jessy 8.5. i've added jessie-backports to my debian
sources and installed certbot. now how can I make sure that the rest
of the system will NOT use jessy-backports? especially when I make a
system update?
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4039 [21:19:16] <TomTheTosch> frog__: backports is per default
pinned lower than the other repos. only stuff you installed manually
should be pulled from backports.
4040 [21:20:11] <TomTheTosch> frog__: if you type apt-cache policy
you see the level at which a repo is pinned. 500 for the main stuff,
100 for backports.
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4043 [21:21:20] <TomTheTosch> frog__: 'man
apt_preferences' to learn more.
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4045 [21:21:28] <jim> "rest of the system"? probably
remove backports... also consider deb-src and doing some of your
needed backports yourself
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4049 [21:22:24] <TomTheTosch> no need to remove backports.
it's leave it in to get updates.
4050 [21:22:37] <TomTheTosch> s/it's/I'd
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4052 [21:24:20] <frog__> TomTheTosch: thanks!
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4064 [21:28:34] <Zliba> so... i wanna install a Zebra LP 2844-Z
printer, and aparently, I'm supposed to just install a
"generic" printer driver, add some lines, and then print
to the printer using binary
4065 [21:28:55] <davidkart> do you have some recommandation for
serving static files with debian ?
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4067 [21:29:13] <davidkart> It seems apache is the per default web
server with debian. Is that really true ?
4068 [21:29:14] <Zliba> but I have never installed a printer
before in linux, and I'm lost. I've got xfce and debian
jessie
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4070 [21:29:29] <davidkart> Zliba:
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4072 [21:29:54] <davidkart> check if your printer is supported on
linux, going on openprinting.org.
4073 [21:30:24] <Zliba> davidkart, I was looking at
replaced-url
4074 [21:30:30] <Zliba> davidkart, will check now
4075 [21:30:51] <cavaughan> Zliba: yeah that printer is not on
openprinting.org. Just checked it out.
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4077 [21:31:44] <cavaughan> Zliba: look at this:
4078 [21:31:48] <cavaughan>
replaced-url
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4080 [21:33:15] <jhutchins> davidkart: apache is the default web
server for everything except windows.
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4083 [21:33:30] <jhutchins> davidkart: There are some others, but
mostly not as well documented.
4084 [21:33:36] <cavaughan> Zliba: OMG it's a label printer,
right?
4085 [21:33:38] <cavaughan>
replaced-url
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4087 [21:33:43] <Zliba> cavaughan, yeah
4088 [21:34:13] <jhutchins> davidkart: nginx is getting fairly
common especially as a proxy to handle a java (or other active
server) service.
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4090 [21:34:45] <jhutchins> cavaughan: Yeah, zebra's a pretty
well known brand for those.
4091 [21:34:49] <cavaughan>
replaced-url
4092 [21:35:32] <mayhew> nginx is way better for performance
4093 [21:35:40] <davidkart> I just got some troubles by installing
nginx, nothing seemed to work out of the box, and it seems to be
security warning right here :
replaced-url
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4095 [21:36:06] <jhutchins> mayhew: It depends on what you're
doing with it.
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4098 [21:36:26] <davidkart> and performance-wise, I don't
think I'm concerned (if the server handles 10 simultaneous
connection, it's ok, that's about the max I'd
expect).
4099 [21:36:56] <davidkart> Well, anyway going for apache has its
own benefits (like toying with one of the most commonly employed web
server).
4100 [21:36:59] <jhutchins> davidkart: Use apache. It's worth
learning, and once you've learned it you'll understand
nginx better.
4101 [21:37:16] <davidkart> yeah, that's what I was beginning
to think.
4102 [21:37:24] <jhutchins> davidkart: The main trick with nginx
is to do as little as possible configuring it.
4103 [21:38:04] <mayhew> jhutchins: from my experience nginx is
*always* faster than Apache. It's simply a more modern codebase
that was built from the ground up based on epoll/kqueue with no
legacy shit like Apache.
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4106 [21:38:51] <mayhew> Apache has 3-4 different runtimes, awful
XML configuration that's more complex.. there's really no
reason to use it unless you're on shared hosting or need
.htaccess or something.
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4113 [21:39:33] <jhutchins> mayhew: nginx appears faster because
it doesn't do any of the work, that's all passed to the
back end.
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4130 [21:40:45] <jhutchins> mayhew: Yes, apache is complex, there
are a LOT of things it can do.
4131 [21:40:55] <mayhew> jhutchins: no, it is faster doing the
exact same work as Apache. And it's a good design to keep your
application outside of the webserver, you say that like it's a
bad thing.
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4140 [21:41:23] <jhutchins> mayhew: Apache is the internet
standard, and for good reason.
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4184 [21:41:52] <mayhew> jhutchins: there is no internet standard,
and if you look at the statistics the top sites are using nginx more
and more these days and for good reason.
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4248 [21:42:44] <jhutchins> mayhew: How many web servers do you
manage?
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4271 [21:43:21] <mayhew> I'm not sure how that's
relevant
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4274 [21:43:34] <jhutchins> Just curious.
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4304 [21:44:31] <rozie> apache is de facto standard, and it's
swiss knife
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4310 [21:44:59] <rozie> nginx is faster, but requires more work at
tuning configuration
4311 [21:45:11] * rysiek|pl disagrees
4312 [21:45:15] <rozie> and it's mainly used on front
4313 [21:45:25] * rysiek|pl disagrees again
4314 [21:45:36] <mayhew> rozie: no, nginx requires basically no
config. It's Apache that requires more configuration. Right up
front you need to decide what "run-time" you want to see,
mpm, prefork, event, etc.
4315 [21:45:45] * rysiek|pl disagrees with that too
4316 [21:46:11] <rysiek|pl> nginx config language is much simpler
and much mroe readable; that being said, it's still confusing
at times, and requries some getting used to
4317 [21:46:19] <rozie> it all depends ;-)
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4319 [21:46:42] <rysiek|pl> at times it's a bit more
demanding, but for good reasons (like locations vs ifs)
4320 [21:46:58] <rozie> rysiek|pl: if an app requires some
rewrites and supports apache, well...
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4322 [21:47:15] <mayhew> rozie: nginx can rewrite URLs just fine
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4324 [21:47:18] <rozie> I know everything can be translated
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4329 [21:47:26] <rysiek|pl> rozie: "supports" by
providing a htaccess file? it can and should provide nginx snippet
too
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4331 [21:47:28] <mayhew> rozie: but that implies you're using
PHP probably?
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4358 [21:48:22] <H4ndy> php-fpm was a godsent comming from apache
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4362 [21:48:30] <davidkart> well one strong advantage of apache,
i'd say, for noob is that the thing is well aged and has plenty
of doc around. Same could be said for nginx, but it's still
less mature I believe. Well for fancy web servers which are
processing a ton of requests, maybe nginx is better than apache. But
i'm a noob, atm I just want to host my blog (lol). I don't
think it's going to make that much a difference.
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4367 [21:48:50] <rysiek|pl> davidkart: trudat
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4370 [21:49:02] <H4ndy> nginx is king on low-power machines like
the raspberry pi, but apache did some work in that regard as well to
give them credit
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4376 [21:49:23] <rozie> OTOH I had no problem with Wordpress on
lighttpd
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4379 [21:49:49] <H4ndy> lighttpd was pretty much the same than
nginx, but it wasnt able to keep up at all with it
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4381 [21:50:04] <rozie> which has even better config syntax than
nginx (at least for Perl guy)
4382 [21:50:11] <H4ndy> I used lighttpd for 2 years until nginx
put on their tryhard pants and lifted of
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4387 [21:50:47] <rozie> but today I'd choose nginx
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4390 [21:51:05] <rozie> lighttpd is the only server with no http/2
support (and no plans for it)
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4392 [21:51:36] <H4ndy> yeah their development slowed to a crawl
4393 [21:51:48] <H4ndy> I was hyped for 1.5.0 years ago
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4399 [21:54:02] <rozie> one day I will migrate
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4401 [21:54:12] <rozie> but so far, it works ;)
4402 [21:54:23] <unborn> H4ndy: yeah apache 2.4 seems to me much
lighter as well
4403 [21:54:32] <jhutchins> I don't think apache and nginx
are targeted at the same kind of use.
4404 [21:55:20] <H4ndy> well for standard "lamp" usage
they are pretty much the same on your average linux box
4405 [21:56:05] <mayhew> jhutchins: I'd agree, nginx seems to
be perfect for people who just want a reverse proxy, static file
server, and high performance, whereas with Apache people want to
write modules that live directly in the process
4406 [21:56:08] <H4ndy> I like the simplicity of nginx, it's
more static in its configuration. Apache is more flexible,
especially with multiuser usage
4407 [21:57:02] <mayhew> there are nginx modules, but the
community doesn't seem to use them as much
4408 [21:57:11] <mayhew> and only Lua is embedded I believe
4409 [21:57:22] <mayhew> whereas pretty much anything can be
embedded in Apache
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4425 [22:01:56] <[Kernel_Panic]> Hello
4426 [22:02:40] <unborn> proxying site is possible with apache
too.. not big deal.. I think its personal preference ;)
4427 [22:02:50] <unborn> *sites
4428 [22:04:08] <mayhew> unborn: if that's all you wanted to
do though, I'd prefer nginx. Apache's a pretty big hammer
for such a small nail.
4429 [22:04:46] <davidkart> well basically I would have come with
web.py for a small, simple webserver.
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4431 [22:05:40] <unborn> mayhew: ah no no, was just joining
discussion here..
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4433 [22:06:17] <davidkart> if simplicity was the point
4434 [22:07:04] <unborn> for serving some static stuff you dont
even need both of them.. just python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080 and
you good to go
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4444 [22:10:46] <jhutchins> [Kernel_Panic]: Feel free to just jump
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4445 [22:11:48] <mayhew> Python HTTP servers tend to be pretty
awful if you care about perfomance though, and a lot of them are
intended to be behind a proxy due to DoS
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4474 [22:25:10] <jhutchins> NCSA HTTPD.
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4488 [22:31:09] <jhutchins> mayhew: Some numbers to consider:
replaced-url
4489 [22:32:29] <jhutchins> Tengine looks interesting:
replaced-url
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4495 [22:36:01] <mayhew> jhutchins: interesting numbers, but I
think nginx is a bit more popular amonst the top sites
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4497 [22:37:15] * simonlnu does nginx
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4517 [22:45:36] <awal1> I installed mate and all fine but now when
I login in xfce session the notification theme used is the mate one,
ugly yellow+blue decor :(. I went to xfce settings and choosed
default theme for notification but mate theme still persistent even
after logout/login. Also I get same mate notification theme in all
WM's I run. How to solve that "issue" ?
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4522 [22:48:16] <simonlnu> because the mate notification daemon is
running, not the xfce one.
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4536 [22:55:58] <jhutchins> mayhew: Not according to that.
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4539 [22:56:11] <jhutchins> mayhew: That's been considered
the definitive survey for years.
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4545 [22:57:57] <[sr]> hi
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4548 [22:58:03] <[sr]> i know this ia a bit offtopic maybe
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4550 [22:58:21] <[sr]> but does anyone knows what makes wireless
hotsports popup the browser after the wireless network selection
4551 [22:58:31] <[sr]> with a specific webpage to sign in?
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4553 [22:58:36] <[sr]> is this a DHCP option?
4554 [22:58:42] <simonlnu> no
4555 [22:59:02] <[sr]> simonlnu: any idea what is it?
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4557 [22:59:18] <jhutchins> [sr]: It's a whole software layer
that handles multiple components.
4558 [22:59:37] <simonlnu> exactly
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4561 [23:00:16] <[sr]> jhutchins: but where, in the clients
devices? (phones/tablets/etc)
4562 [23:00:19] <[sr]> or the hotspot?
4563 [23:00:20] <jhutchins> !hostapd
4564 [23:00:21] <dpkg> hostapd is a user-space IEEE 802.11 access
point (AP) and IEEE 802.11X/WPA/WPA2/EAP authenticator. Any mac80211
driver providing AP functionality is supported by hostapd's
nl80211 (netlink) driver. See /usr/share/doc/hostapd/README.Debian
for program invocation and driver version/firmware notes. See also
replaced-url
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4566 [23:01:03] <jhutchins> [sr]: It runs on the
AP/Router/Gateway.
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4569 [23:01:58] <[sr]> jhutchins: hostapd does it then, i see
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4572 [23:02:06] <[sr]> when i connect to the wifi network
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4574 [23:02:27] <[sr]> hostapd is the responsible to make the
mobile device open the webbrowser automatic
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4576 [23:02:32] <jhutchins> [sr]: It's a popular option.
4577 [23:02:54] <awal1> somonlinux, well, I looked at htop &
tp and mate-notification daemon is not running. The only mate stuff
running is mate-screensaver --no-daemon
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4579 [23:04:05] <[sr]> jhutchins: well i can do everything from
squid redirect and login page to iptables deny and accept's via
IP or MAC, but that option never found nothing about it :)
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4584 [23:04:31] <awal1> simonlnu, well, I looked at htop & tp
and mate-notification daemon is not running. The only mate stuff
running is mate-screensaver --no-daemon
4585 [23:04:42] <awal1> & top
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4588 [23:05:56] * awal1 Was very fine with xfce, dont know why he
installed mate...
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4591 [23:06:23] <CutMeOwnThroat> because you have masochistic
traits?
4592 [23:06:31] <awal1> :P
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4594 [23:07:42] <GooseYArd> man i can't keep track of all
these desktop things
4595 [23:08:25] <jhutchins> [sr]: A few years ago there was a live
CD that was popular and incorporated a centralized subscription
service, ad revenue, and some other features.
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4597 [23:08:44] <awal1> enabling a few system monitor plugins in
mate panel mate starts whitout panels :D
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4599 [23:09:19] <[sr]> jhutchins: i see, but i want to do my own
hotspot server, combine features that exists in one trademark and
other, but none satisfies me
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4602 [23:09:54] <awal1> I thought that mate, being a fork of the
well mature andstable gnome2 will be rock solid, but now, xfce is
more stable
4603 [23:10:18] <[sr]> jhutchins: im reading the docs and dont see
how it does the popup on the mobile device, dont see any info about
it
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4606 [23:11:30] <cavaughan> I think you can do a hotspot with
customization on a Mikrotik
4607 [23:11:31] <cavaughan>
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4608 [23:11:51] <jhutchins> [sr]: I have no specific knowledge of
that feature, but there's a lot on google.
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4613 [23:15:27] <[sr]> jhutchins: havent found... been trying to
find it for about 6 months :(
4614 [23:15:56] <blawiz> anyone know how to bind keys for the
y-menu in mutt? (#mutt is dead)
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4630 [23:22:45] <bmomjian> I reported a problem 24 hours ago that
my wifi laptops occasionally could not ping my cable modem, even
though they could ping my Debian server, and my Debian server could
ping my cable modem, and they are all on the same subnet and plugged
into the same switch. While rebooting everything did not help, It
seems unplugging and replugging all my network cables into the
switch has fix it. Some of these devices had been plugged into the
switch for years. Is
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4635 [23:24:25] <dondelelcaro> bmomjian: the rest of your question
got chopped off
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4641 [23:25:16] <jhutchins> bmomjian: Contacts oxidize. It's
a good idea to re-seat connectors once in a while. It's one of
the troubleshooting steps for a PC as well, unplug everything and
plug it back in (one at a time).
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4643 [23:25:26] <bjornar_> How do I rerun the debian-installer
steps from scratch after redownloading preseed ?
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4647 [23:27:06] <[sr]> jhutchins: walled garden?
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4652 [23:29:55] <bmomjian> uh, chopped off?
4653 [23:30:00] <bmomjian> I typed too much, hmm
4654 [23:30:32] <bmomjian> Here is the full text:
replaced-url
4655 [23:30:48] <bmomjian> wow, good to know, and something I
never considered
4656 [23:31:07] <bmomjian> It is odd I never saw errors on any of
the interfaces, and I checked during the failures.
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4659 [23:31:41] <jhutchins> bmomjian: pastebin.com is not
accesible here (and many other places). paste.debian.net
4660 [23:31:45] <dondelelcaro> bmomjian: it would have been
interesting to see what happened if you unplugged the switch too
4661 [23:32:07] <dondelelcaro> (it's possible that the
switch's bridge table got screwed up)
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4663 [23:33:00] <bmomjian> My message:
replaced-url
4664 [23:33:11] <bmomjian> I did reboot the switch, but that did
not fix it
4665 [23:33:30] <bmomjian> yes, very odd
4666 [23:34:11] <bmomjian> I remember because I rebooted Debian,
the switch, and the cable modem at the same time, and it did not fix
it.
4667 [23:34:28] <bmomjian> only later did I unplug and replug,
after it seems logical it had to be something about the switch
4668 [23:35:03] <bmomjian> I do have dual ethernet on the Debian
server, after the DNS and arp lookups worked to the cable modem, the
Debian system wasn't even involved in the ping anymore.
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4671 [23:35:52] <bmomjian> It has gotten warm here lately as we
are entering summer, but these cables have been in for years.
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4675 [23:37:41] <bmomjian> My family is of course happy, and
testing that used to fail is no longer failing.
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4797 [23:56:39] <Battaglin> is there no .torrent on mirror with
all debian isos in?
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4800 [23:57:00] <Battaglin> I mean on each arch.. e.g. AMD64 etc
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4814 [23:58:58] <dvs> Battaglin, why do you want all the ISOs?
4815 [23:59:53] <Battaglin> dvs: I dont.. just to seed
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