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7[00:04:48] <thrmo> what version of the kernel is debian
testing using?
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9[00:05:31] <pencilandpaper> Not sure thrmo , you can check
online though I'm sure. I know that sid is at 4.8.
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10[00:05:35] <r0mdau> 4.7
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12[00:05:44] <thrmo> ty
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13[00:06:47] <pencilandpaper> Yeah, 4.7.
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19[00:08:47] <Insanity_> Recently switched from ubuntu to
debian, but I have a small question. How can I show the sidebar by
default? It keeps auto-hiding and I would like for it to be sticky
like in Unity
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21[00:09:14] <psylence> Insanity_: what DE?
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22[00:09:22] <Insanity_> Always moving the mouse to the top
left corner is a bit cumbersome
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26[00:10:04] <r0mdau> Go on tweak tools if your using gnome
Insanity_
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28[00:10:37] <Insanity_> I had hoped echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
would tell me this and it just says "default" ^^
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30[00:10:43] <mtn> Insanity_: if you are using gnome, the super
key shows the sidebar
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31[00:10:53] <Insanity_> Yeah it does too mtn
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32[00:11:06] <Insanity_> But then I can not use a shortcut to
launch the apps in the sidebar?
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33[00:11:19] <Insanity_> thanks r0mdau, I found the tool
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34[00:11:21] <mtn> Insanity_: that works great for me, but you
can get a gnome extension that will show the sidebar all the time
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37[00:12:06] <Insanity_> Looking into the extensions list now,
ty!
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38[00:13:00] <Insanity_> "Window list" shows them at
the bottom in a windows XP kind of fashion, but that'll do
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39[00:13:02] <Insanity_> Thanks guys!
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42[00:13:13] <r0mdau> ;)
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79[00:28:52] <CuteAlien> Hi! Since last update (debian stable)
kmail no longer works here. Says "Akonadi control process not
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81[00:29:14] <CuteAlien> I hope someone can help me getting my
mail...
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89[00:32:10] <CuteAlien> Would already help if someone can tell
me if akonadi logs errors somewhere so I get maybe some clue what to
look for.
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92[00:32:51] <CuteAlien> or d-bus logs errors.
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96[00:35:15] <CuteAlien> I do remember last update did update
something in MySQL.. so might be related to that.
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108[00:41:08] <CuteAlien> OK, found it. In case you have to help
next guy who can no longer start kmail. Since last update myself
needs a folder "/var/lib/mysql-files" or akonadi crashs on
start. Creating it by hand will fix it. Thought probably debian
should have created it automatically when updating mysql as it
likely didn't just break my system.
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111[00:42:59] <CuteAlien> and replace "myself" in last
post by "mysql" :-)
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145[01:03:38] <echosystm> hello. i would like to make a usb
debian distro for a pc to make it a router.
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146[01:03:54] <echosystm> basically i just want everything
preconfigured
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147[01:04:01] <echosystm> what's the best way to go about
doing that?
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148[01:04:50] <echosystm> pretty much all i need is backported
kernel, iptables, openvpn and wpa_supplicant
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149[01:05:15] <echosystm> i'm guessing i should just make a
chroot, configure it how i want and then get that on a usb with a
bootloader
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150[01:05:27] <echosystm> but i figure theres some fancy tool
for this in 2016?
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157[01:10:18] <petn-randall> echosystm: Why not just install
Debian on a USB stick? No need to make your own distro.
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159[01:10:40] <texnofobix> might be able to do something with
debootstrap
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162[01:12:34] <echosystm> petn-randall: i wont have internet
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163[01:12:59] <echosystm> i just want an image i can write to a
usb with all the packages i need
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165[01:14:23] <th0r> echosystm, if all you are after is a
standalone router...you can pick up a tplink from amazon for just
over $10
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169[01:14:42] <texnofobix> and you can put ddwrt on some of
those
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170[01:15:03] <psylence> I find tomato to be better
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172[01:15:49] <texnofobix> I like Merlin, but thats' for
Asus Routers
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176[01:17:09] <petn-randall> echosystm: Then download the
CDs/DVDs? I don't know how making your own distro will fix any
of those problems.
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178[01:18:05] <echosystm> th0r: it needs to run openvpn at
50mbps
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180[01:18:24] <echosystm> i want a CPU with hardware AES
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181[01:18:30] <echosystm> which almost no home routers have
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184[01:18:54] <sl4v3> anyone here ever use passport-saml-restify
before?
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185[01:19:12] <petn-randall> !survey
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186[01:19:13] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, survey is
Don't ask whether 'somebody uses <app>' unless
conducting a survey. Ask the question that you want to ask.
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188[01:19:36] <sl4v3> that is my question.
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189[01:19:39] <sl4v3> take it or leave it.
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190[01:20:02] <bazhang> the answer is yes
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192[01:20:20] <echosystm> petn-randall: part of it is a learning
thing
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194[01:20:37] <echosystm> i just want to know how to set up my
own debian images
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195[01:20:46] <sl4v3> bazhang: may i ask you a few questions?
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197[01:21:16] <sl4v3> somewhere where doing so isn't a
grave imposition to folks?
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198[01:21:43] <bazhang> what system of debian
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202[01:22:23] <petn-randall> just ask your question, and if
someone know the answer, they'll respond. Might take up to an
hour or so due to the time of day. Most people are here during EU/US
business hours.
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206[01:23:38] <thrmo> its still business hours in US west coast
i guess
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208[01:24:29] <bazhang> he has yet to answer one question
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213[01:26:11] <sl4v3> bazhang: he's still griefing me.
like, i understand, but business hours being what they are, and
given how complex the issue is, and how contextually absent debian
is, despite my knowing this is going to be a place to find someone
who knows the fuck they're talking about, it's just not
seemingly worthwhile. perhaps it is.
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215[01:26:57] <bazhang> still not answered what I asked
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217[01:27:20] <sl4v3> bazhang: i have no idea what you're
talking about.
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219[01:27:38] <sl4v3> bazhang: no one has asked me a question.
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220[01:27:42] <bazhang> which debian
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221[01:28:14] <sl4v3> bazhang: it depends
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222[01:28:42] <bazhang> let me know when you have that info
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223[01:28:45] <sl4v3> bazhang: all of this would be going into a
docker container. if most of the dependencies are satisfied by
another image i can stem from, it may not be debian at all.
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226[01:29:48] <sl4v3> bazhang: if i use the php:5.6-apache
image, it's debian jessie. no idea how that has any relevance
here.
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228[01:30:43] <bazhang> differing debian have differing support
channels, even networks, thats why
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231[01:31:21] <sl4v3> bazhang: i'm talking about a SAML
extension for Restify.
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232[01:31:48] <bazhang> for jessie is it
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233[01:32:03] <sl4v3> it would be installed via npm... not apt.
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238[01:39:05] <sl4v3> bazhang: so. thx.
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244[01:41:04] <bazhang> for?
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247[01:41:45] <sl4v3> bazhang: do you have any practical
experience with passport-saml-restify or are you just trolling me?
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250[01:42:44] <bazhang> some
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251[01:42:49] <sl4v3> it's not like i asked "anyone
here use xfce4?" i asked if there was a point in remaining in a
channel to discuss a fairly obscure project which i would anticipate
basically 0 people to have experience with.
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252[01:43:02] <bazhang> but you are not making it easy to offer
help
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253[01:43:04] <texnofobix> xfce4 isn't bad
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254[01:43:10] <sl4v3> i love xfce4. :)
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255[01:43:32] <sl4v3> bazhang: i asked if there was a place to
go without someone hitting a bot like a trained monkey.
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256[01:43:58] <bazhang> irc is not mcdonalds drive thru
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257[01:44:12] <sl4v3> you guys have to be in your 20s...
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259[01:44:39] <abrotman> insults are always the way to get help
..
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260[01:44:45] <texnofobix> i'm in my 30s
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261[01:44:46] <jelly> 0x20s
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262[01:44:47] <petn-randall> !next
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263[01:44:47] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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264[01:45:08] <texnofobix> 2^5th + 1
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265[01:45:20] <sl4v3> i was referring to a couple folks.
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266[01:45:50] <texnofobix> sl4v3: I didnt take any offense :)
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267[01:46:53] <sl4v3> texnofobix: that's cause you're
in your 30s. ;)
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270[01:47:38] <texnofobix> sl4v3: yeah more genx than millienial
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271[01:47:43] <jelly> in any case, this and many other channels
in freenode work better with well defined issues. That means
explaining the actual issue instead of polling who's using X.
You're going to have to explain it anyway once you find someone
using X.
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272[01:47:44] <SynrG> 50. and weary
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273[01:47:51] <jelly> !ask
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274[01:47:51] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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275[01:47:54] * sl4v3 begins to draw cultural parallels with german
nationalist youth circa 1935...
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277[01:48:19] <sl4v3> jelly: super happy to ask a series of a
thousand questions.
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278[01:48:24] <bazhang> thats not very nice
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281[01:48:37] <sl4v3> dude, #debian in 1997 was the shit.
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282[01:48:38] <petn-randall> Oh, Godwin's law striking
early today.
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283[01:48:50] <surfist> :) I want to tear all my hair out ...
lots of unmet dependencies now related to perl.. perl -v is 5.24,
and man perl.. but the system thinks it's still 5.22 and
won't install anything anymore
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286[01:48:59] <jelly> applies even if it's some obscure php
component noone's heard of.
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287[01:49:18] <jelly> surfist, which debian release are you
supposed to be running?
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288[01:49:26] <surfist> 8
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289[01:49:30] <petn-randall> surfist: Sounds like you're
mixing distros/releases.
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291[01:49:42] <jelly> .v perl-base
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292[01:49:43] <sl4v3> ok. fine. how do i use
passport-saml-restify? <eoq/>
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293[01:49:47] <jelly> ,v perl-base
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294[01:49:48] <judd> Package: perl-base on amd64 -- wheezy:
5.14.2-21+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 5.14.2-21+deb7u4; jessie:
5.20.2-3+deb8u6; jessie-security: 5.20.2-3+deb8u6; stretch:
5.24.1~rc3-3; sid: 5.24.1~rc3-3
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295[01:50:01] <abrotman> or hasn't done a dist-upgrade in
ages ?
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296[01:50:02] <surfist> I need to either get the system to say
perl is 5.24 or clobber it
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297[01:50:05] <surfist> just a sec
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298[01:50:09] <jelly> surfist, neither 5.22 nor 5.24 are part of
Debian 8
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299[01:50:14] <Dracunos> :v
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300[01:50:25] <jelly> !bat
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301[01:50:25] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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302[01:50:41] <jelly> surfist, if you don't know, show the
^^ info
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303[01:51:08] <surfist> 5.22 is perl base but it won't
install 5.24
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304[01:51:49] <jelly> you're not on debian 8 any more then.
Just a matter of figuring out whether it's debian at all, just
testing or unstable, or something different
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306[01:52:22] <surfist> possibly testing
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307[01:52:48] <surfist> all packages :) that's a ton .. all
perl related
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308[01:53:08] <surfist> perl* and *perl
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309[01:53:09] <jelly> paste.debian.net takes 64k-sized pastes.
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310[01:53:21] <SynrG> surfist: is that what you want to be
running, or were you trying to mix in the perl from testing into
stable?
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311[01:54:12] <surfist> to be honest.. something else may have
called the upgrade and now it's borked
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312[01:54:15] <SynrG> surfist: maybe we should be asking why you
want to be running a Perl other than the one in Jessie on Jessie.
What problem would that solve for you?
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313[01:55:16] <SynrG> "something"? In my experience
it's administrators that do things like this. :p
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315[01:55:36] <SynrG> Usually with some mistaken assumptions
about the outcome
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316[01:55:42] <jelly> administrators failing to read the output
of apt
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319[01:57:19] <surfist> I can paste apt-get upgrade results?
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323[01:58:03] <gry> yep to paste.debian.org surfist
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325[01:58:39] <SynrG> paste.debian.net not .org
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332[01:59:31] <surfist> name? as in user nick? or name of
problem
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334[01:59:40] <surfist> on paste.debian.net
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341[02:02:15] <SynrG> surfist: we need the URL it gave you for
your paste
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342[02:02:19] <surfist> done... paste.debian.net/893786/
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343[02:02:37] <surfist> bouncing between 2 machines
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349[02:04:03] <SynrG> And the output of "apt-cache
policy" please
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352[02:05:41] <surfist> okay... but here's perl -v while
getting policy info paste.debian.net/893787/
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358[02:06:23] <SynrG> No surprise given the apt output
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360[02:07:09] <Echo6> I'm getting an error that says that
my partitions are set beyond the end of the device. I had restored a
backed up 64GB SDCard to another 64GB SDCard from a different
manufacturer. How do I adjust it? I know that it is currently set to
5,582,080 and the end of the device is at 5,570,432.
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362[02:07:37] <surfist> done... paste.debian.net/893788/ time
for fun
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363[02:07:57] <somiaj> Echo6: can you still access the original
data?
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364[02:08:34] <somiaj> Echo6: modifying the partition table
without first modifying the filesystem may have negative effects. My
suggestion is rsync the data as opposed to copying the images.
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365[02:08:44] <Echo6> I was an SDCard that I had created an
image of. The device that uses the card is in Togo, Africa now but I
still have remote access to it.
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366[02:09:22] <Echo6> Yeah, that's not gonna happen from
here.
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367[02:09:24] <somiaj> Echo6: rsync can do things remotely. I
just think you won't be able to easily adjust the filesystem
and partition table to match this new hardware. If you ahve the
image get a device bigenough to put it on.
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369[02:09:48] <Echo6> Both cards are 64GB
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370[02:10:05] <somiaj> in the future realize size varies between
cards. Some companies use gig to mean 1000 megs, others use gig to
mean 1024megs
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372[02:10:13] <Echo6> syncing this over the internet won't
work as the connection in Togo is intermitten and very slow.
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373[02:10:20] <somiaj> Echo6: unforntaully as you have seen that
may not mean they have the same size.
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374[02:10:31] <Echo6> Yeah, I see that now.
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377[02:10:52] <somiaj> maybe someone knows more about
filesystems and partitions can help you out of this mess. I just
know when resizing things you first have to shrink the filesystem,
then you can shrink the parittion table
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381[02:12:52] <somiaj> but since you are missing the end of both
the filesystem and partition table, unsure how relaiable this is. Is
there another remote storage you can copy the data you can access
to? Or do you just not have access to any of the data?
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383[02:14:09] <Echo6> I had access to a device that is running
off of the original card (its in Africa). But there are no other
devices in existence.
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384[02:14:23] <Echo6> I was attempting to make the second one
now.
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385[02:14:42] <SynrG> surfist: well, kali is not Debian.
That's your first problem
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386[02:14:50] <SynrG> !kali
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387[02:14:51] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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388[02:14:51] <somiaj> I'm not knowlegable enough to have
any inplace solutions and dataloss may occur. Maybe someone else can
help Echo6.
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393[02:16:00] <surfist> I figured it's a dpkg/apt problem
anyhow
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394[02:16:42] <SynrG> surfist: no
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397[02:17:49] <somiaj> surfist: despite the overlap, our policy
for both techenical and social reasons is to only support those
running a debian
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400[02:18:24] <somiaj> surfist: there is ##linux for general
linux support if kali's channels are not active.
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401[02:18:27] <surfist> I can try another channel... mostly I
get 'distro specific' stuff this is not about any special
tools :/
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402[02:18:31] <surfist> ah good
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407[02:19:09] <surfist> thought I'd start here :) thanks so
far
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408[02:19:33] <surfist> was thinking ... 'oh yeah, apt...
here's how to fix'
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410[02:19:46] <somiaj> surfist: thanks for understanding our
policy. Hope you find the support you need (also consider when
picking a distro, you also pick the support structure of that
distro)
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430[02:28:34] <sl4v3> can't paste to channel, but netsplits
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432[02:29:14] <texnofobix> netsplits to me are like your pants
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433[02:29:24] <texnofobix> both seem to me embarrasing
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436[02:29:59] <sl4v3> like, i get pastebin for sure, but the
pain there is losing all context to the channel loggers.
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438[02:30:16] <sl4v3> my pastebins live for about 30 seconds.
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443[02:32:28] <sl4v3> texnofobix: i haven't split my pants
in so long, i kinda miss the horror. tore my back pocket off a bit
recently with an errant wallet placement, though.
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457[02:36:55] <vvuja> no money required
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458[02:36:57] <vvuja> I need clicks
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459[02:36:59] <vvuja> 41 click
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462[02:37:22] <vvuja> ok
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463[02:37:23] <vvuja> thanks
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464[02:37:43] <texnofobix> does it involve debian?
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465[02:37:48] <vvuja> nope
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466[02:37:55] <vvuja> one game
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572[03:28:41] <asterismo> is the lua module luasec and async
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573[03:28:48] <asterismo> debian 8 jessie
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604[03:48:25] <Guest29814> guys is there any difference in power
consumption between kernel 3.16 and 4.7??
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642[04:30:37] <azonenberg> Hi guys
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643[04:30:51] <azonenberg> Trying to trace down all of the
compilers on this box and figure out why i have all of them
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644[04:30:57] <azonenberg> in particular, i have gcc 4.6, 4.8,
and 4.9
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645[04:31:05] <azonenberg> 4.9 i can understand as that's
the latest version supported on jessie
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646[04:31:26] <azonenberg> But why would i have both 4.6 and
4.8? i see both of them are dependent on a kernel image and i'm
trying to understand how this works
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647[04:31:28] <texnofobix> did you not uninstall the old ones?
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649[04:31:31] <azonenberg> as it seems kernels should only use
one compiler
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651[04:31:44] <azonenberg> texnofobix: I'm planning to
uninstall them but trying to avoid adverse effects :P
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652[04:31:49] <texnofobix> you can have different gccs installed
I believe
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653[04:31:52] <azonenberg> So i'm tracing the dependencies
to see what i need
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654[04:31:53] <azonenberg> Correct
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655[04:31:56] <texnofobix> aah
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656[04:32:01] <azonenberg> It's more a question of, why
have all 3 installed if i dont need them
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657[04:32:03] <texnofobix> do you compile your own?
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658[04:32:06] <texnofobix> stuff?
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659[04:32:07] <azonenberg> Maybe i do need them all, i dont know
yet
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660[04:32:22] <azonenberg> I have several OTHER gcc's built
from source for embedded systems work
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661[04:32:24] <texnofobix> or are you installing from dpkgs ?
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662[04:32:25] <azonenberg> mips, arm, etc
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664[04:32:32] <texnofobix> hrmm
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665[04:32:34] <azonenberg> But these are all packaged compilers
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666[04:32:40] <azonenberg> that seem auto-installed
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667[04:32:47] <n4dir> aptitude why <packagename> ; can be
of use, but i would not rely on it
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670[04:33:10] <azonenberg> gcc-4.6-base is required by the usual
gcc/g++ core package then linux-headers-3.16.0-0.bp0.4-amd64
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671[04:33:33] <azonenberg> gcc-4.8-base is required by usual gcc
plus linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64
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672[04:33:36] <azonenberg> and linux-headers-amd64
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676[04:33:52] <azonenberg> Linux skipjack 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP
Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u1 (2016-09-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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678[04:34:07] <azonenberg> so i feel like i should be able to
remove one of those kernels and the associated compiler and be fine
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679[04:34:36] <azonenberg> in fact, looking more, it seems like
the bpo4 headers are installed, but not the matching kernel image
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680[04:35:31] <azonenberg> So the whole gcc 4.6 toolchain should
be OK to remove
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732[05:19:55] <zerothis1> TomTomTo1: games were running fine. A
game just released last week gave me an error that seemed to
indicate it didn't find 32-bit opengl. So I apt-get install
mesa-utils:i386. After, I still get the same error and gave up til
later. Later I find that none of my ogl games will run.
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742[05:27:01] <azarus> Hey guys, my mariadb server won't
start today. Both mariadb-server and mariadb-client are installed,
but systemd fails to start it.
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785[06:11:45] <n_blownapart> hi sorry for a basic PATH question:
I'm getting this error installing a haskell ide environment on
the atom editor. What should be in .bashrc and /or .bash_profile to
fix this?
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787[06:12:49] <n_blownapart> the executables are indeed in
user/local/.local/bin ^
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790[06:15:00] <AlexLikeRock> you mean /usr/local ??
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796[06:15:29] <AlexLikeRock> n_blownapart, you speak spanish ?
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797[06:16:33] <n_blownapart> AlexLikeRock, no Spanish, why?
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802[06:18:29] <surfist> well I fixed dpkg ... one lone bad
symlink
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806[06:21:02] <AlexLikeRock> n_blownapart, try this
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807[06:21:10] <AlexLikeRock> nano ~/.profile
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808[06:21:17] <AlexLikeRock> or
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809[06:21:30] <AlexLikeRock> nano /home/usarname/.profile
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817[06:23:26] <n_blownapart> thanks AlexLikeRock
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935[07:48:57] <ilken> HILLARY IS GOING AND MEXICO IS GOING TO
PAY FOR THE WALL
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PAY FOR THE WALL
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PAY FOR THE WALL
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958[08:03:12] <obiwahn> Hi any sid users here? Who use the non
graphical terminal and experience issues with the keyboard layout?
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959[08:03:19] <missmbob> !debian-next
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960[08:03:19] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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961[08:03:23] <missmbob> obiwahn: for you ^
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963[08:03:33] <obiwahn> thanks i am in that channel
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964[08:03:39] <missmbob> !crosspost
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965[08:03:40] <dpkg> Posting the same question in several places
at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums)
is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone
else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we
are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've
already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer
and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>.
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966[08:03:49] <obiwahn> different network
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967[08:04:17] <missmbob> so you didn't read the factoid of
wasting people's time? because that has nothing to do with
networks
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968[08:04:26] <missmbob> follow the channel policy please
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971[08:05:15] <obiwahn> wtf there are except for a few totally
different people in both channels
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973[08:05:30] <obiwahn> on most pcs i use us layout because i
develop
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975[08:05:43] <obiwahn> so i am not only asking developers in
debian-next
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981[08:06:30] <obiwahn> So I ask here because here are much more
people.
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1034[08:34:56] <HJfFun> can anyone can tell me if the instruction
"FirmwareDownload8192E fw:NIC, size: 31818" is call by the
standard request_firmware ?
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1068[08:55:06] <obiwahn> HJfFun: you need to provide more
infromation
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1071[08:55:50] <HJfFun> Obi-Wan, I will try so
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1080[09:00:45] <HJfFun> On a fresh install of a RTL8292EU module
I saw inside dmesg : "FirmwareDownload8192E fw:NIC, size:
31818". I just want to know if this module call the standard
request_firmware(noyau request) ?
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1088[09:05:18] <obiwahn> HJfFun: no sorry - do you talk about
request_firmware(&fw_entry, $FIRMWARE, device)
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1230[10:08:48] <Anselmo> Another day
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1259[10:21:44] <HJfFun> how can i use paste.debian.net like that
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1260[10:23:23] <uniTosch> You can simply install pastebinit
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1267[10:25:48] <themill> HJfFun: you need to have something long
enough to pastebin
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1273[10:26:50] <HJfFun> themill, really ?? how many caractere is
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1308[10:46:18] <CtrlC> How can I exit a ssh connection which is
in the background?
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1314[10:46:38] <CtrlC> I even tried pill ssh but the port I
opened with the ssh is still taken.
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1315[10:46:43] <CtrlC> pkill*
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1322[10:47:41] <petn-randall> CtrlC: Bring it to the foreground
then log out?
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1323[10:47:53] <CtrlC> petn-randall, how though?
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1324[10:48:10] <petn-randall> CtrlC: How did you background it?
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1326[10:48:43] <CtrlC> -N option. Here's the full options:
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1327[10:48:57] <CtrlC> oh and a -q which doesn't matter.
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1341[10:59:17] <petn-randall> CtrlC: kill $PID worked just fine
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1342[10:59:28] <gry>
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1343[10:59:36] <CtrlC> pkiller, didn't work but I'll
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1345[11:00:06] <CtrlC> pkill I mean.
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1346[11:00:08] <CtrlC> :D
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1347[11:00:19] <petn-randall> !debian-next
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1348[11:00:19] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1349[11:00:22] <petn-randall> gry: ^^^
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1350[11:01:27] <gry> ah yes, sorry, I have more than one laptop
and I forget which is which. thanks for picking that up,
petn-randall :-)
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1381[11:19:46] <girlinrogue> Jim Condit Jr gets roasted by Kyle
Hunt
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1461[12:01:14] <mapm> hello, I have a problem with an encrypted
volume group. I made a encrypted debian with a primary partition
boot, and a logical one with a vg for /root, /home and swap. I
tampered with the configuration of the logical volumes, of
/etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab, trying to decrypt home and swap
automatically from root using key files, so i just have to memorize
root partition password. Now, when I enter the password, it stars a
loop looking for partitions, and in 2
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1462[12:01:14] <mapm> minutes or so it stops and says it
couldn't find a device with UUID=blablabla. What should I do?
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1464[12:02:05] <T|R|U|M|P> No more politics for Clinton!
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1465[12:02:09] <T|R|U|M|P> Trump has won!
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1494[12:11:42] <candidat> hello guys :-D
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1504[12:14:44] <candidat>
replaced-url
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1561[12:45:49] <pixelmix> hey dudes
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1564[12:46:12] <pixelmix> does debian run steam ?
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1568[12:48:45] <Prutheus> Hello! I am on a dell xps 13. when i
connect a monitor via docking d3100 (displaylink) or pluggable
thunderbolt3_to_hdmi, i get a 1sec-freeze all 10 seconds. how can I
fix this issue?
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1575[12:51:00] <ksk> pixelmix: AFAIK you can just install it, but
not, debian does not support steam (it is not debian package after
all, is it?)
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1577[12:51:05] <ksk> s/not/no
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1589[12:59:34] <towo^work> ,v steam
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1590[12:59:35] <judd> No package named 'steam' was
found in amd64.
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1591[12:59:39] <towo^work> ,v steam:i386
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1592[12:59:41] <judd> No package named 'steam:i386' was
found in amd64.
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1597[13:00:56] <towo^work> towo@Druck-Buero:~$ LANG=C apt-cache
policy steam
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1598[13:00:56] <towo^work> steam:i386:
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1599[13:00:56] <towo^work> 1.0.0.49-1 500
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1600[13:00:56] <towo^work> 500
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1602[13:01:11] <petn-randall> ,v --arch i386 steam
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1603[13:01:12] <judd> No package named '--arch' was
found in i386.
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1609[13:01:58] <petn-randall> ,v steam --arch i386
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1610[13:01:59] <judd> Package: steam on i386 -- jessie/non-free:
1.0.0.49-1; stretch/non-free: 1.0.0.52-5; sid/non-free: 1.0.0.52-5
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1612[13:02:08] <petn-randall> pixelmix: ^^^
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1616[13:02:37] <petn-randall> towo^work: stop playing around on
the print server! ;)
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1618[13:02:56] <ksk> ah okay, it is in debian. did not know that
:)
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1619[13:03:02] <towo^work> petn-randall, that's my
workstation here
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1623[13:04:38] <pixelmix> its a new brand computer should i
install linux ?
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1625[13:04:50] <pixelmix> what are the advantage nowdays of
having a linux machine ?
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1634[13:06:20] <ransur0t> cost, performance, community, choice,
FOSS, ... and many, many more
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1636[13:07:58] <pixelmix> ferformance seams reasonable
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1637[13:07:59] <pixelmix> :P
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1638[13:08:26] <pixelmix> does debian support rv ?
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1639[13:08:35] <pixelmix> Real Virtuality
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1712[13:41:06] <petn-randall> pixelmix: What's the
non-marketing name for that?
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1718[13:46:05] <Prutheus> Namarrgon: you speak with me?
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1719[13:46:09] <Prutheus> Hello! I am on a dell xps 13. when i
connect a monitor via docking d3100 (displaylink) or pluggable
thunderbolt3_to_hdmi, i get a 1sec-freeze all 10 seconds. how can I
fix this issue?
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1846[14:44:48] <ksk> hey, what was the command to check failed
apt-get downloads again? think it was posted here yesterday or so..
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1847[14:45:22] <themill> 'check' in what sense?
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1849[14:45:58] <ksk> getting debug output. but nevermind, it does
work now (packages need some time to be pushed I assume..)
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1850[14:46:26] <themill> !apt debug
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1851[14:46:26] <dpkg> To debug what is going wrong with
apt/apt-get/aptitude fetching from the mirrors, append «-o
Debug::Acquire::http=true» to the command line. The output
will be lengthy but informative.
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1852[14:46:35] <ksk> thanks themill
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1905[15:07:45] <candidat> hello i m looking for a teacher to
teach me about linux bash shell i m ready to pay money for it ...
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1906[15:08:33] <centrx> candidat: well the first thing is just
the basic commands: ls and cd (list directory and change directory)
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1909[15:09:17] <julius_> hi
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1911[15:09:23] <centrx> candidat: This looks pretty good:
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1915[15:10:33] <julius_> update-flashplugin-nonfree --status says
that version: 11.2.202.643 is installed, but version: 11.2.202.644
is available...yet when i run it with --install and run --status
after im still on 643 instead of 644
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1916[15:10:34] <julius_> why?
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1921[15:14:08] <candidat> ty centrx
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1936[15:19:48] <WormFood> What commandline tool can I use to
"beautify" javascript? I need to investigate a .js file,
and of course it's minified, so no spaces, which makes reading
it a pain.
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1939[15:20:25] <centrx> I would go find the original
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1940[15:20:36] <betandr>
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1941[15:20:42] <WormFood> I don't have that option.
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1943[15:20:52] <WormFood> Thanks betandr
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1946[15:20:56] <betandr> or
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1948[15:21:23] <WormFood> this is a 437k file of 13 lines, so
really a pain. I know there are tools to do this, so I don't
want to reinvent the wheel.
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1949[15:22:08] <hassoon> wow you guys, i really wonder if whoever
drew that image was thinking of debian, or it's a rare
coincidence that debian's logo is on that cup of coffe
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1951[15:23:37] <ksk> hehe, nice.
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1953[15:24:31] <WormFood> hassoon, obviously not a coincidence,
since it IS the debian logo.
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1955[15:24:58] <WormFood> I'm 99% sure they didn't draw
that part, and just copied/pasted it.
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1956[15:25:28] <hassoon> WormFood: got it in among the images
within the result of an inspirational-full-power-wallpaper google
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1958[15:25:42] <hassoon> WormFood: yeah every pixel seems to be
of the debian logo
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1959[15:25:43] <hassoon> :D
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1960[15:25:55] <WormFood> I like how they did that. Nice job.
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1961[15:25:59] <hassoon> debian sponsors coffé, yoppe
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1965[15:29:19] <centrx> also getting "drmSetMaster failed:
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1966[15:29:31] <betandr> Speaking of stuff that looks like the
Debian logo :)
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1982[15:36:09] <DeaDSouL> This has nothing to do with debian...
but I thought it worth asking it here... If UPS has only one usb
port to connect it to one PC... how can I get my other two PCs to
shutdown when it's being on battery?
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1988[15:37:28] <ksk> DeaDSouL: like make the computer connected
to UPS message the other computeres somehow, on $failedpower event?
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1990[15:37:59] <DeaDSouL> yes
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2004[15:45:36] <ksk> DeaDSouL: that was me saying what you would
need to do in an abscract way. there problaby is no "ready to
use" solution ;)
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2032[16:01:19] <john_rambo> Hi, Ia m using Jessie LXDE .....
Which package should I install to get notification of updates ?
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2034[16:01:44] <pixelmix> intall determinated ui for the job
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2047[16:06:00] <ax> packet tracer 7 does not work in debian 8,
how to fix it?
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2048[16:06:35] <jelly> ax: how does it fail when you call it from
a terminal?
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2049[16:07:12] <AxForest> oh well there is ax while i called
AxForest xD and i get confused why i get pings :D
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2053[16:08:08] <ksk> john_rambo: for non desktop systems there is
for example "apticron" package
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2054[16:08:24] <ksk> (you can use it on a desktop, too. but its
not integrated)
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2055[16:08:33] <ax> jelly, /usr/local/bin/packettracer: line 8:
4053 Aborted ./PacketTracer7 "$@" > /dev/null
2>&1
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2060[16:10:25] <john_rambo> ksk, Can u tell me what Lubuntu uses
? I will try that one
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2067[16:13:26] <ksk> john_rambo: nope, I cannot. ask #ubuntu? ;)
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2068[16:13:33] <ksk> (without ? of course)
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2086[16:17:28] <jelly> ax: pastebin the full output of "bash
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2087[16:17:32] <jelly> !paste
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2088[16:17:32] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
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2109[16:27:41] <ax> jelly,
replaced-url
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2116[16:28:55] <lancelot_of> hello ther
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2117[16:28:58] <lancelot_of> there
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2118[16:29:31] <lancelot_of> any email client with a threading
algorithm similar to gmail?
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2119[16:29:53] <lancelot_of> it seems to me icedove does not
provide anithing similar
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2122[16:30:08] <lancelot_of> but I'm probably wrong...
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2125[16:32:32] <ksk> lancelot_of: you mean a performing mail
client? take a look at claws mail
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2127[16:32:59] <ksk> got huge shared-folders and
icedoce/thunderbird was just dying / taking 2 cpu cores all the time
- with claws it was fine
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2128[16:33:01] <jelly> ax: okay, now pastebin output of:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/pt/lib ldd /opt/pt/bin/PacketTracer7
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2133[16:35:05] <lancelot_of> ksk, thanks for your suggestion
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2136[16:36:39] <th0r> lancelot_of, won't icedove's
View-Thread do what you want
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2147[16:42:31] <ax> jelly,
replaced-url
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2150[16:44:33] <ax> jelly, sorry
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2151[16:44:36] <ax> jelly,
replaced-url
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2167[16:52:06] <TestingIRC> I accidently run this: "mv
/dev/null /tmp/file_to_delete" and it moved /dev/null to other
place, then I moved it back and it seems normal, but what if there
is no /dev/null, what will happen to the working system ? can it
crash ?
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2175[16:53:51] <petemc> TestingIRC: ls -l /dev/null
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2183[16:54:16] <johanskizo> hello
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2192[16:56:47] <jelly> ax: nothing obviously wrong there. Edit
/usr/local/bin/packettracer, remove the >/dev/null 2>&1
part, and do the bash -x thing again
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2194[16:57:30] <jelly> TestingIRC: some stuff won't work
until you reboot and it's recreated again
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2195[16:57:34] <johanskizo> if anyone has ever tried to install
kali linux tool form Kali linux repositories?
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2196[16:57:39] <jelly> !kali
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2197[16:57:39] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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2198[16:58:00] <jelly> johanskizo: you don't want to mix
repos for different distros.
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2200[16:58:30] <jelly> it can result in broken package management
system too easily
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2202[16:58:49] <Insanity_> When scrolling on websites under my
debian distro, it feels "laggy"
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2203[16:58:55] <Insanity_> as in there are lines on the webpage
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2205[16:59:03] <Insanity_> something that does not occur on
ubuntu, simple driver update I am assuming?
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2207[16:59:20] <TestingIRC> petemc: how can "ls -l
/dev/null" restore "/dev/null" ?
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2208[16:59:28] <johanskizo> check this
replaced-url
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2210[16:59:41] <johanskizo> just pentest packges
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2211[16:59:47] <centrx> Insanity_: That is a possibility, it
sounds like you might be using some basic graphics driver for X that
can't handle fast updates
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2212[16:59:51] <centrx> Insanity_: or have a low refresh rate
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2214[16:59:52] <petemc> TestingIRC: it cant
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2215[17:00:04] <petemc> it will show you permissions etc tho
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2216[17:00:11] <Insanity_> I'm using whichever was default
in the installation %%
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2217[17:00:13] <Insanity_> ^^
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2220[17:00:48] <johanskizo> jelly : if just some packages?
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2223[17:01:11] <johanskizo> jelly : check this
replaced-url
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2233[17:03:46] <newDebian> hi all, i install Debian/Jessie/XFCE
in virtualBox, but internet not working ... i behind proxy, but i
set configure http_proxy=user:pwd@domain.net:port, but not works
yet.
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2236[17:04:04] <pixelmix> hi all
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2238[17:04:12] <pixelmix> Tahrpup64 6.0.5 is good for
steampowered ?
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2239[17:04:26] <newDebian> apt-get and wget work's fine, but
not firefox or icewease or chromium browser.
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2240[17:04:29] <pixelmix> make oculus rift drivers plz
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2244[17:04:35] <jelly> wtf is Tahrpup64
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2246[17:04:42] <newDebian> i can't configure proxy in
ambiente GUI :(
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2248[17:05:01] <ax> jelly,
replaced-url
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2250[17:05:12] <pixelmix> soz wrong window
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2261[17:07:44] <newDebian> anyone help-me ? i can't
configure proxy settings in my Debian/Xfce in VirtualBox.
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2263[17:08:18] <johanskizo> me too have that problem in gnome LoL
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2266[17:08:39] <johanskizo> ping is ok but can't internet
browsing :p
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2284[17:18:55] <petn-randall> newDebian: Did you set the proxy in
their settings?
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2286[17:21:29] <newDebian> petn-randall, in console YES, but in
GUI i can't
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2288[17:21:58] <petn-randall> newDebian: Why can't you set
it? Check the settings of the program.
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2289[17:23:13] <newDebian> petn-randall, look ...
replaced-url
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2291[17:24:33] <petn-randall> newDebian: First hit on google:
replaced-url
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2297[17:25:20] <ax> jelly, please read this page:
replaced-url
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2300[17:26:10] <newDebian> petn-randall, i try it ... on minute
please.
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2305[17:26:36] <jelly> ax: I'd probably move away all the
libQt* stuff from /opt/pt/lib first, see if that helps
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2326[17:35:06] <ax> jelly, can i delete all files in /opt/pt/lib
?
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2327[17:35:28] <jelly> ax: _no_. Just the Qt ones
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2331[17:36:45] <ax> jelly,
replaced-url
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2336[17:38:22] <newDebian> petn-randall, in first test, works
fine :D
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2338[17:38:25] <newDebian> thanks :)
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2345[17:40:11] <jelly> ax: something is weird, then, are you sure
your ldd output was correct?
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2352[17:41:29] <jelly> ax: did you run
"LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/pt/lib ldd
/opt/pt/bin/PacketTracer7" or just "ldd
/opt/pt/bin/PacketTracer7" ?
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2357[17:42:45] <ax> jelly, yes
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2360[17:43:02] <ax> i have been run LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/pt/lib
ldd /opt/pt/bin/PacketTracer7
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2362[17:43:47] <jelly> it doesn't seem to have picked any
libs from /opt/pt/lib at all for some reason
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2367[17:44:06] <jelly> so... removing them probably wont make any
difference
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2368[17:44:21] <jelly> you can try it, tho.
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2373[17:46:09] <ax> jelly, i don't know
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2377[17:46:39] <ax> have you an idea?
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2381[17:47:17] <ax> can i remove libqt4* ?
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2382[17:47:25] <johanskizo> can i edit /etc/xdg/menus in deibian
jessie and change activity like gnome old?
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2390[17:48:05] <johanskizo> and install dash to dock gnome
extension
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2394[17:51:02] <jelly> ax: yes, try removing those from
/opt/pt/lib, see if there's any change
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2397[17:51:48] <jelly> ax: if there's no change, you can
reinstall pt7 again in the same place to put them back
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2399[17:52:24] <todd_dsm> I see the method to set a hostname in a
preeseed file but this bug still seems in play:
replaced-url
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2400[17:52:25] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2401[17:52:31] <ax> jelly, can i remove libqt4* from my system?
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2403[17:52:46] <jelly> ax: no.
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2404[17:53:04] <ax> jelly, ok
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2405[17:53:39] <jelly> ax: removing packages would break other
stuff you're using. Removing files from /opt/pt/lib instead,
can only break pt
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2406[17:54:00] <ax> jelly, yes
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2407[17:54:22] <jelly> ax: you also have a custom
/usr/local/lib/libsqlite3.so.0
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2408[17:54:40] <jelly> but that's probably not relevant for
the Qt issue with your app
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2409[17:55:06] <jelly> judd: file lib/libsqlite3.so.0*
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2410[17:55:10] <judd> No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with
that file.
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2417[17:56:56] <jelly> judd: file libsqlite3.so.0
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2418[17:57:01] <judd> Search for libsqlite3.so.0 in jessie/amd64:
libsqlite3-0: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsqlite3.so.0
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2424[17:58:54] <ax> after removing /opt/pt/lib:
replaced-url
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2428[18:00:05] <jelly> so apparently it really doesn't work
with newer Qt4.8, then
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2440[18:04:52] <jelly> ax: is there a change if you also move
away /usr/local/lib/libsqlite3.so.0* ?
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2446[18:08:05] <ax> jelly, no :(
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2450[18:09:18] <jelly> ax: I guess you could set up a wheezy
(debian 7) chroot and install the tool in there
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2454[18:11:03] <ax> jelly, i have been install debian 8.6!!!
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2458[18:11:39] <jelly> ax: just for fun, put the libQt files
back, run "env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/pt/lib ldd
/opt/pt/bin/PacketTracer7", is there any difference in the
output?
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2465[18:13:43] <ax> jelly, fun does not work :)
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2467[18:15:02] <bibble> thinking of installing
'rtorrent' from testing/unstable, for latest version.
testing seems have same 'nginx' & 'php'
versions as dotdeb, so thinking of getting them from testing too. Is
this safe/ok idea ?
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2469[18:15:51] <jelly> bibble: no, build those for stable from
debian sources, if possible. This is called a "backport"
then.
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2473[18:15:59] <jelly> here's a recipe
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2474[18:16:11] <jelly> !ssb
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2475[18:16:11] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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2478[18:16:41] <missmbob> start with libtorrent-dev then do
retorrent
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2480[18:17:02] <jelly> bibble: that will work for rtorrent and
its own libtorrent package. It will be complicated for php. Dunno
about nginx.
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2482[18:17:26] <jelly> ,v rtorrent
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2483[18:17:27] <judd> Package: rtorrent on amd64 -- jessie:
0.9.2-1; wheezy: 0.9.2-1; stretch: 0.9.6-2; sid: 0.9.6-2
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2484[18:17:35] <jelly> no backports, huh
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2486[18:17:49] <bibble> thanks jelly, missmbob . ok, will look
into it now. had been reading
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2487[18:17:59] <r3> I've a Soekris net6501 running wheezy
and would like to know what the system temperature is. I've
looked in /sys/devices for 'thermal' but it isn
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2488[18:18:03] <jelly> is not hard, tho. ii rtorrent
0.9.6-3~0.jelly.1 amd64 ncurses BitTorrent client based on
LibTorrent from rakshasa
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2489[18:18:05] <r3> 't there. Any thoughts?
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2490[18:18:22] <r3> (gah, stupid fat fingers)
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2491[18:18:26] <Kobaz> damn
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2492[18:18:29] <Kobaz>
replaced-url
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2493[18:18:36] <missmbob> bibble: dont do that nonsense
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2494[18:18:53] <missmbob> bibble: you'll break your system
faster than you can sneeze
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2497[18:19:07] <bibble> ok missmbob & jelly . <3
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2498[18:19:31] <jelly> bibble: if you need software from stretch
(current "testing"), consider upgrading the whole system
to stretch instead
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2499[18:19:40] <Kobaz> missmbob: it's really not that bad
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2502[18:19:57] <jelly> Kobaz: it is really bad, and noone sane
will help fix the results
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2503[18:19:59] <Kobaz> missmbob: i've mixed
stable/testing/unstable for years, depending on the need, sometimes
you need to
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2504[18:20:02] <missmbob> Kobaz: wrong
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2505[18:20:04] <jelly> not for free, anyway
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2507[18:20:26] <Kobaz> well if you understand the basics of the
dependency system and monkeying with /var/lib/dpkg/status manually
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2508[18:20:28] <Kobaz> then you're all good
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2510[18:20:40] <Kobaz> it's not for the faint of heart,
definitely
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2511[18:20:41] <jelly> Kobaz: and then you don't need to ask
about it here
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2512[18:20:45] <bibble> interesting point jelly
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2514[18:21:09] <jelly> people who ask about it here, don't
know the intricacies and pitfalls and _will_ get hurt
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2516[18:21:26] <Kobaz> just make sure you work on a system you
don't mind being a bit broken occasionally
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2517[18:21:54] <jelly> and don't mind not being able to get
help in #debian* channels :-)
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2519[18:22:03] <Kobaz> yeah, but that's okay
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2521[18:22:14] <Kobaz> it doesn't need to be officially
supported to accomplish the task
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2523[18:22:34] <jelly> it's okay, but it's absolutely
not to be recommended here
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2524[18:22:39] <Kobaz> and then when the repo catches up to what
you need, you just move everything to stable or whatever
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2525[18:22:51] <Kobaz> upgrade/downgrade, you can go either way
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2527[18:23:01] <jelly> sigh
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2529[18:23:22] <Kobaz> it's just that sometimes,
there's not a 'right path' for what you need to do
'right now'
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2531[18:23:42] <Kobaz> and you have to bite the bullet and mix
stuff, but it's really not that bad, you can mix, and unmix
very quickly
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2534[18:24:11] <jelly> you can, and it can leave leftover crap
that goes unnoticed
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2535[18:24:13] <Kobaz> and the best way to learn is to go break
stuff and then put it back together
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2536[18:24:22] <Kobaz> yeah but even that's fixable
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2537[18:24:23] <jelly> downgrades break config files
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2538[18:24:26] <Kobaz> it's all fixable
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2539[18:24:28] <missmbob> we're not here to help people
break things
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2540[18:24:36] <jelly> nothing fixes them afterwards
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2541[18:24:58] <Kobaz> i can fix just about any debian problem
you can run into... because i've run into them all, for the
most part
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2542[18:25:01] <Kobaz> so when you'
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2544[18:25:18] <Kobaz> you're on a real production system
and something goes wrong with the standard upgrade process, i can
fix it very easily
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2545[18:25:18] <bibble> :)
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2546[18:25:21] <missmbob> good for you. you're giving
terrible advice to newbies who dont know better. you should stop
that.
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2547[18:25:23] <jelly> Kobaz: me too, but this works for the user
level who can mostly help themselves anyway
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2549[18:25:25] <Kobaz> because of the experience of breaking
everything and having to fix it
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2550[18:25:43] <Kobaz> i'm just saying, it's an option
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2551[18:25:53] <Kobaz> and it's a really good way to learn
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2553[18:26:04] <jelly> and I'm saying not to make people in
here think it's an option we're going to help them with
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2554[18:26:08] <Kobaz> like, yeah sure, follow the docs, and
understand the proper way to do things
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2555[18:26:22] <Kobaz> but also understand the hacks you need to
do, when things get serious and the docs aren't helpiung
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2556[18:26:31] <jelly> simplified, it's an option best not
mentioned at all
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2557[18:26:56] <Kobaz> and of course, don't play with this
on a box that's handling your 92837498234 million emails a day
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2558[18:27:02] <Kobaz> throw up a vm and have at it
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2562[18:29:03] <bibble> Kobaz: with packages you've
installed from testing, would they still recieve/work with
unattended security updates ?
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2565[18:29:37] <Kobaz> bibble: that's left as an exercise
for the reader... a lot of automatic stuff is going to have issues
when you mix
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2567[18:29:57] <bibble> right :)
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2568[18:30:06] <Kobaz> it's going to be on a case by case
basis
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2570[18:30:18] <Kobaz> monitor it and if it works for you, then
great
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2571[18:30:19] <jelly> bibble: there are no real security updates
in testing
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2572[18:30:36] <bibble> oh right
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2574[18:30:50] <jelly> "case by case" means "you
need to take care of it on your own"
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2579[18:31:30] <Kobaz> the packages you've specifically
installed from testing... you can try and script up an apt-get
update/install every week or whatever
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2580[18:31:31] <jelly> this usually means "installed once
and never upgraded"
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2581[18:31:42] <Kobaz> but things may break (tm)
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2582[18:31:48] <jelly> things WILL break
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2583[18:31:53] <jelly> don't do this.
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2584[18:31:57] <bibble> :)
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2586[18:32:53] <jelly> ,v nginx
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2588[18:32:53] <judd> Package: nginx on amd64 -- wheezy-security:
1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; wheezy-backports:
1.6.2-5+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.2-5+deb8u2; jessie-security:
1.6.2-5+deb8u4; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.6.2-5+deb8u4;
jessie-backports: 1.9.10-1~bpo8+3; jessie-backports:
1.9.10-1~bpo8+4; sid: 1.10.1-1; sid: 1.10.2-1; stretch: 1.10.2-1;
experimental: 1.11.2-1~exp1;
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2589[18:32:54] <judd> experimental: 1.11.5-1~exp1
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2593[18:33:07] <jelly> ^^ some things have ready-made backports
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2597[18:33:14] <Kobaz> yeah
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2599[18:33:26] <Kobaz> but when backports arent available, you
need other options
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2600[18:33:34] <bibble> that's great about nginx. most
important one :)
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2602[18:33:51] <Kobaz> bibble: one thing to consider, specific
packages that you need... build the source and install to like /opt
or whatever with a --prefix
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2603[18:33:54] <jelly> "set up a stretch chroot and run shit
there" is a much better option than "mix stable and
something newer"
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2605[18:34:26] <Kobaz> in our custom debian-based distro for our
internal clusters, we maintain 4 or 6 apps that are built manually
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2606[18:34:36] <jelly> you _maintain_
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2607[18:34:51] <Kobaz> so that we can apt-get upgrade the distro,
and then our internal apps/deps don't break
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2608[18:34:52] <jelly> it's work, a constant load
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2610[18:35:07] <bibble> good points jelly, Kobaz . try to avoid
compiling, as debian package manager is awesome and prefer to use it
as much as possible
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2611[18:35:44] <ryouma> jelly: what is the effort required to set
up a stretch chroot and run stuff -- including gui applications?
where might one find a tutorial for this great idea?
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2612[18:36:12] <Kobaz>
replaced-url
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2613[18:36:18] <Kobaz> it's a pretty neat package
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2615[18:36:28] <ryouma> this seems like a great solution, but --
yeah i never figured debootstrap out
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2616[18:36:30] <Kobaz> you can install another distro in a new
root basically
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2617[18:36:44] <Kobaz> it's pretty easy there's some
howtos around somewhere
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2619[18:36:58] <Kobaz> so set up your /testing install in like
/somewhere/else/debian-testing
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2620[18:37:08] <Kobaz> and then start up your testing-* based
apps off of that
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2621[18:37:09] <jelly> ryouma: dunno, I didn't have to scale
up enough to automate things, but there are tools like
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2622[18:37:12] <jelly> ,i dchroot
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2623[18:37:13] <judd> Package dchroot (admin, optional) in
jessie/amd64: Execute commands in a chroot environment. Version:
1.6.10-1+b1; Size: 326.2k; Installed: 1413k
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2625[18:37:45] <Kobaz> well basically the howto is right on the
debootstrap page
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2627[18:38:02] <r3> I've a Soekris net6501 running wheezy
and would like to know what the system temperature is. I've
looked in /sys/devices for 'thermal' but it isn'
there. Any thoughts about where to look for a core temp? I'm
not sure if there are even any 'standard' places debian
looks for such things ... any input would be welcome! :)
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2628[18:38:02] <jelly> debootstrap is the base for most of
debian's chrooty buildy wrapper things
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2635[18:40:06] <bibble> r3: in /proc ?
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2639[18:41:33] <r3> bibble: that gives me a bunch of info about
the cpu, but not anything dynamic like the temperature
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2642[18:42:16] <bibble> ah, ok
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2644[18:42:58] <r3> I know that, for instance, and I know it is
raspbian and not debian, but just an example the temperature is at
'/sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp'
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2647[18:43:28] <r3> ...on this Raspberry Pi. But not there on
this other hardware. I don't know enough about it, really.
Google hasn't been any help
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2652[18:45:57] <bibble> can I safely dist-upgrade the system to
stretch ?
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2655[18:46:13] <jelly> dpkg, jessie->stretch
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2656[18:46:14] <dpkg> First, understand that testing is a
pre-release distribution without timely security support and that
you will have a bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target>
<testing> <testing security>. From
/etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like
jessie-updates and backports, and change jessie to stretch. apt-get
update && apt-get dist-upgrade. If you feel you need more
instructions, perhaps you should wait a while.
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2657[18:46:40] <missmbob> also
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2658[18:46:42] <missmbob> !debian-next
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2659[18:46:42] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2660[18:47:15] <bibble> see :) jelly missmbob
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2661[18:47:16] <jelly> bibble: there's nothing safe in the
testing branch, except the warm fuzzy feeling you get knowing every
bug you find and report (and fix?) is one less bug users of next
stable will experience!
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2662[18:47:30] <bibble> :D
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2679[18:56:33] <azarus> Does someone have an idea how to solve
this error with MariaDB? ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to
local MySQL server through socket
'/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2 "No such file or
directory")
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2680[18:56:33] <azarus> I've tried looking it up, to no
avail.
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2682[18:57:52] <jelly> azarus: that's shorthand for
"make sure your mysql server mysqld process is actually
running"
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2684[18:58:37] <azarus> Yes, but "sudo systemctl enable
mysqld" gives me this: Failed to execute operation: No such
file or directory
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2685[18:58:41] <jelly> if you get it at start of the server
itself, it can mean "make sure there's no leftover old
mysqld process still running, first"
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2686[18:59:01] <jelly> azarus: is there an actual service unit
called mysqld?
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2688[18:59:22] <jelly> debian typically does not put the
"d" in service names for daemons
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2689[18:59:24] <azarus> I'll post a journalctl, hang on.
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2691[18:59:39] <jelly> systemctl status mysql
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2696[19:00:11] <azarus> ● mysql.service - LSB: Start and stop the
mysql database server daemon
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2697[19:00:11] <azarus> Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/mysql)
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2698[19:00:11] <azarus> Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since
Wed 2016-11-09 05:04:50 CET; 13h ago
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2699[19:00:11] <azarus> Nov 09 05:04:50 nextcloud systemd[1]:
mysql.service: control process exited...03
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2700[19:00:11] <azarus> Nov 09 05:04:50 nextcloud systemd[1]:
Failed to start LSB: Start and stop t...n.
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2701[19:00:12] <azarus> Nov 09 05:04:50 nextcloud systemd[1]:
Unit mysql.service entered failed state.
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2706[19:00:33] <azarus> Whoops. Too muh.
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2707[19:00:39] <jelly> azarus: mysql.service <- no d
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2708[19:00:40] <azarus> I'll use paste.debian
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2711[19:01:08] <jhutchins> azarus: Your sql server is failing to
start. Youj need to figure out why.
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2716[19:01:27] <jhutchins> azarus: You can't connect to it
because it isn't running.
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2717[19:01:42] <azarus> A second, journalctl on the way:
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2719[19:02:11] <jhutchins> azarus: What have you done besides
install it?
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2721[19:02:33] <azarus>
replaced-url
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2723[19:02:44] <azarus> jhutchins, not much. Created a databse
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2726[19:03:39] <jelly> Nov 09 05:04:48 nextcloud systemd[458]:
Failed at step EXEC spawning /etc/init.d/mysql: No such file or
directory
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2728[19:03:43] <jhutchins> azarus: Did you change anything about
the user accounts?
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2729[19:03:49] <jelly> azarus: ls -ld /etc/init.d/mysql
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2732[19:04:16] <azarus> jelly,
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2733[19:04:16] <azarus> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5486 Sep 10 07:29
/etc/init.d/mysql
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2735[19:04:46] <azarus> jhutchins, not that i know of.
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2737[19:05:48] <jelly> azarus: okay. is there any leftover mysqld
process running?
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2738[19:06:06] <azarus> ps -ef | grep mysql?
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2743[19:06:56] <jhutchins> ,v mariadb-server
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2744[19:06:57] <judd> Package: mariadb-server on amd64 --
jessie-security: 10.0.25-0+deb8u1; jessie: 10.0.25-0+deb8u1;
jessie-security: 10.0.26-0+deb8u1; sid: 10.0.26-1; jessie:
10.0.27-0+deb8u1; stretch: 10.0.27-2; sid: 10.0.28-1; stretch:
10.0.28-1
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2745[19:07:00] <azarus> jelly, azarus 3819 3494 0 19:06 pts/0
00:00:00 grep --color=auto --exclude-dir=.bzr --exclude-dir=CVS
--exclude-dir=.git --exclude-dir=.hg --exclude-dir=.svn mysql
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2749[19:07:29] <azarus> So, jelly, there is no other process
running.
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2752[19:08:35] <jelly> azarus: good. "grep mysqld
/var/log/daemon.log", see if it complains about something
specific at start
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2753[19:08:48] <azarus> Okay, jelly on it
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2757[19:10:25] <azarus> jelly,
replaced-url
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2767[19:14:29] <jelly> no idea what happened there, looks like it
started just fine lines 200-219, then nothing in the logs and
it's starting again
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2777[19:16:14] <jelly> ,v mariadb-server-10.0
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2778[19:16:15] <judd> Package: mariadb-server-10.0 on amd64 --
jessie-security: 10.0.26-0+deb8u1; jessie: 10.0.27-0+deb8u1; sid:
10.0.28-1; stretch: 10.0.28-1
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2787[19:18:09] <DammitJim> is there a way to reduce the size of a
logical volume while it's mounted?
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2789[19:18:49] <jelly> DammitJim: do you want to keep the data?
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2791[19:18:57] <DammitJim> LOL... yes, jelly
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2792[19:19:05] <jelly> then no
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2794[19:19:30] <DammitJim> I have a /usr partition (I guess I can
call it partition) that I want to reduce
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2796[19:19:38] <DammitJim> can I unmount it on the fly?
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2797[19:19:42] <DammitJim> or will stuff break?
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2802[19:20:09] <greycat> It's very unlikely you can unmount
/usr on a running system.
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2803[19:20:16] <DammitJim> thanks guys
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2804[19:20:20] <DammitJim> scheduling an outage
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2805[19:20:21] <jelly> even so, you need to reduce the filesystem
(structures) first, and for that the filesystem type needs to
_support_ that. ext4 does have an _offline_ procedure. xfs
doesn't have any.
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2806[19:20:44] <azarus> Hm. Any leads, jelly?
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2807[19:20:55] <greycat> Usually it's backup, boot from CD,
recreate, restore.
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2808[19:20:56] <DammitJim> ext4 is what I have
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2809[19:21:02] <jelly> azarus: no idea what happened there, looks
like it started just fine lines 200-219, then nothing in the logs
and it's starting again
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2812[19:21:19] <greycat> "offline" means while
unmounted, in this context
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2813[19:21:24] <missmbob> is there a way to make iceowl play nice
with read-only calendars? i can't dismiss notifications of
events that i dont have modify access to (which...is ridiculous)
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2816[19:21:31] <DammitJim> right
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2817[19:21:43] <azarus> Should i reboot and post the logs again,
jelly ?
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2818[19:21:47] <jelly> azarus: I'd start /usr/sbin/mysqld
manually and hope it failed in the same way, probably; similar to
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2819[19:21:51] <jelly> !ifmrp
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2820[19:21:51] <dpkg> If you've forgotten the <MySQL>
root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables;
mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET
Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE
User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld;
/etc/init.d/mysql start See also
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2822[19:22:08] <jelly> except without --skip-grant-tables
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2824[19:22:39] <jelly> and possibly with a parameter that makes
it run in foreground instead of daemonizing itself
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2825[19:23:11] <azarus> jelly, "mysql" is not in
/usr/bin, there is only
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2827[19:23:38] <jelly> azarus: I didn't say anything about
mysql or /usr/bin
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2831[19:23:50] <greycat> CGroup: /system.slice/mysql.service
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2832[19:23:50] <greycat> |-21997 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe
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2833[19:23:51] <greycat> `-22346 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr
--datadir=/var/lib/mysql -...
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2835[19:24:08] <azarus> Hm? mariadb has the same commands as
mysql, i think, jelly
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2837[19:24:27] <jelly> "azarus: I'd start
/usr/sbin/mysqld manually and hope it failed in the same way,
probably"
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2838[19:24:54] <jelly> start the _daemon_ itself, manually
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2839[19:24:57] <azarus> jelly, How can i start mysqld if
it's not in /usr/bin?
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2840[19:25:02] <greycat> dear lord
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2842[19:25:16] <greycat> why would you expect a daemon to be in
/usr/bin where ordinary users might try to run it?
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2843[19:25:21] * jelly will not stoop to greycat levels of desperation
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2844[19:25:24] * jelly will not stoop to greycat levels of desperation
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2847[19:25:41] <jelly> azarus: /usr/sbin is different from
/usr/bin
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2848[19:25:50] <jelly> azarus: mysqld is different from mysql
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2849[19:25:52] <greycat> See my snippet from systemctl status
that I posted like 3 minutes ago.
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2850[19:25:55] <azarus> I know, sbin is for root stuff
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2852[19:26:05] <jelly> azarus: and you have to be root to do that
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2853[19:26:05] <greycat> Like database daemons.
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2854[19:26:26] <azarus> Oh. Whoops. guess i forgot the
"s". sorry.
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2857[19:27:28] <azarus> I was able to execute it, started without
an error message, yet issue persists
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2858[19:27:39] <greycat> I wouldn't even attempt to run
mysqld by hand. I'd let the Debian scripts do it. Someone who
knows this stuff presumably wrote them to do whatever they need to
do.
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2859[19:28:08] <azarus> Well, greycat, sure, but this is
troubleshooting
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2860[19:28:11] <jelly> considering the "forgot mysql
root" procedure does it, I don't think it's a
horribly bad idea
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2862[19:29:17] <jelly> azarus: did it start and exit? What was
the exit status of mysqld?
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2865[19:29:54] <azarus> jelly, same as before
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2867[19:30:34] <azarus> Post again?
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2871[19:31:08] <DammitJim> can I shrink a physical partition? I
bet I can't
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2872[19:31:21] <jelly> azarus: what was the exit status of
/usr/sbin/mysqld when run as root?
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2873[19:32:02] <azarus> jelly,
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2874[19:32:15] <DammitJim> I ask because I'm working with
VMs
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2875[19:32:34] <jelly> azarus: that does not look like you ran
"/usr/sbin/mysqld"
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2876[19:33:12] <jelly> azarus: what exact command did you run to
get that output?
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2877[19:33:34] <azarus> Did it again, no change; jelly. Command
was: sudo systemctl status mysql
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2879[19:33:58] <jelly> oh, you don't know how to look up
exit status of a command.
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2880[19:34:11] <azarus> That's true.
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2881[19:34:24] <jelly> azarus: run "/usr/sbin/mysqld"
as root. When it ends, run "echo $?"
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2884[19:35:25] <azarus> Exit status: 1, jelly
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2885[19:35:31] <danke> i'm trying to capture my desktop
using kdenlive, but it's failing. it seems like it doesn't
respect the DISPLAY env var. i'm on :1 because of multi user
logins, but it's trying to use :0.0
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2888[19:35:55] <danke> avconv version 11.8-6:11.8-1~deb8u1,
Copyright (c) 2000-2016 the Libav developers built on Oct 1 2016
07:16:29 with gcc 4.9.2 (Debian 4.9.2-10)
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2889[19:35:56] <danke> [x11grab @ 0x1d8a560] device: :0.0 ->
display: :0.0 x: 0 y: 0 width: 1280 height: 800
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2890[19:35:56] <danke> No protocol specified [x11grab @
0x1d8a560] Could not open X display. :0.0: Input/output error
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2896[19:36:49] <jelly> azarus: good, that's a failure (exit
status of 0 is success)
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2899[19:37:16] <jelly> azarus: now see if there's anything
new in /var/log/daemon about mysqld after that run
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2900[19:38:08] <azarus> server.c: Packet too short or invalid
while reading response record. (Maybe a UTF-8 problem?) Maybe this?
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2903[19:39:21] <jelly> is there anything else?
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2907[19:39:57] <azarus> Nothing new after a new run, jelly
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2910[19:40:24] <jelly> at that point I'd probably start
using strace
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2912[19:40:41] <jhutchins> azarus: I think you can enable more
verbose logging in my.cnf, but at this point I'd be tempted to
purge and reinstal.
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2913[19:40:52] <jelly> azarus: strace -efork,execve,open -f
/usr/sbin/mysqld
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2915[19:41:06] <azarus> jhutchins, already purged it once. Try it
againg though?
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2917[19:41:18] <jelly> do you care about the current database
contents?
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2919[19:41:35] <azarus> jelly, not really
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2920[19:41:54] <jelly> then purge _all_ the mariadb-server*
packages
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2921[19:42:01] <jhutchins> azarus: Make sure that /var/lib/mysql
is gone after you purge.
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2922[19:42:07] <azarus> Okay. i'll try
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2924[19:42:29] <jhutchins> azarus: Also, consider looking for
README files in /usr/share/docs/mariadb*/
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2927[19:43:22] <azarus> Should i delete /var/lib/mysql after
purging? jhutchins
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2932[19:46:51] <azarus> After purging and deleting files,
reinstall?
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2935[19:47:36] <jelly> yeah
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2936[19:47:41] <azarus> Okay.
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2942[19:48:39] <azarus> jelly, same error after "sudo
systemctl start mysql"
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2944[19:48:59] <jelly> which packages did you purge and how?
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2946[19:49:11] <azarus> sudo apt purge mariadb*
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2948[19:49:19] <jelly> and what did that do?
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2950[19:49:33] <azarus> removed 2 packages: mariadb-server and
mariadb-client
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2951[19:49:36] <greycat> hopefully you were NOT in a directory
that had files matching the glob mariadb* at the time
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2952[19:50:08] <jelly> azarus: that doesn't sound like it
got all the packages named starting with mariadb-server
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2953[19:50:33] <azarus> How do i check? jelly
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2954[19:50:40] <greycat> dpkg -l mariadb\*
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2955[19:50:40] <dpkg> No packages found matching mariadb\*
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2956[19:50:44] <jelly> I don't think that syntax is correct.
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2959[19:51:09] <jelly> (referring to apt purge mariadb*)
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2960[19:51:10] <greycat> maybe he actually *was* in a directory
that had files named mariadb-server and mariadb-client and
that's why the glob only expanded to those two...?
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2961[19:51:16] <jelly> nod
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2963[19:51:53] <azarus> I was in /usr/share/doc
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2964[19:52:15] <greycat> The larger point here is that if you
want to pass a literal * to a command, it has to be quoted or
escaped.
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2965[19:52:22] <greycat> As in dpkg -l mariadb\*
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2966[19:52:53] <azarus> You're right, greycat
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2968[19:54:04] <azarus> Errors were encountered while processing:
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2969[19:54:04] <azarus> mariadb-server-10.0
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2970[19:54:04] <azarus> mariadb-common
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2971[19:54:04] <azarus> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an
error code (1)
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2975[19:54:33] <greycat> azarus: making progress. Now review the
whole error and figure out why it failed.
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2976[19:54:44] <jelly> avoid pasting more than 2 successive lines
into the channel
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2978[19:54:58] <azarus> Okay, i will do that. jelly
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2982[19:55:30] <azarus> Dependency issues with mariadb-common
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2983[19:55:56] <greycat> So you want to run "dpkg --purge
mariadb-server-10.0 mariadb-common mariadb-server" or something
similar.
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2987[19:56:44] <azarus> It gets errors while processing
mariadb-server-10.0 and mariadb-common greycat
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2988[19:57:03] <greycat> What errors?
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2991[19:57:26] <azarus> dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute
installed post-installation script
(/var/lib/dpkg/info/mariadb-server-10.0.postinst): No such file or
directory
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2992[19:57:26] <azarus> Is one of them greycat
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2993[19:57:26] <dpkg> You are person #1 to send an unparseable
request, azarus
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2994[19:57:30] <missmbob> start using paste.debian.net
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2996[19:58:10] <greycat> If
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mariadb-server-10.0.postinst exists, make sure it
has a #!/bin/sh shebang, and consider just slapping an "exit
0" right after that as a last resort.
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2997[19:58:20] <greycat> If it's missing, create it with
just those two lines and make it executable.
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2998[19:58:36] <jelly> wait what
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2999[19:59:03] <azarus> greycat, both are present
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3003[20:00:30] <opv> hi all
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3004[20:00:51] <jelly> azarus: pastebin the output of
"mount"
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3005[20:01:15] <opv> i'm looking for a realtime kernel for
debian jessie, but i can't seem to find a package. any
pointers?
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3006[20:01:32] <azarus> jelly,
replaced-url
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3007[20:02:06] <azarus> I gotta go. BRB in 20 minutes or so
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3023[20:08:09] <Cueball> Does anyone know if Asterisk is
available in testing right now?
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3024[20:09:23] <missmbob> !why is asterisk not in testing
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3025[20:09:24] <dpkg> asterisk is not in testing for the reasons
listed in
replaced-url
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3035[20:11:19] <missmbob> !tell Cueball about debian-next
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3036[20:11:29] <Cueball> Thanks missmbob
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3038[20:12:24] <jelly> what's the point in the release
process when we start allowing stable+1 question in here? ABI
freeze? freeze? less-than-200-rc-bugs?
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3039[20:13:09] <jelly> or will people in here magically know
everything about stretch the same day it's released?
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3042[20:13:43] <missmbob> *shurg* i assume at this point they
still know more about stretch. i haven't touched it
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3043[20:14:30] <jelly> (I propose we stop pushing people to -next
immediately, when freeze happens)
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3045[20:15:01] <missmbob> that'll probably happen naturally.
be too crazy otherwise
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3047[20:15:53] <jelly> my naturally right now would be to frown
at every automatic !debian-next ... I don't trust the naturally
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3048[20:15:55] <jhutchins> We know that people who run testing
and unstable do hang out here. A lot of the questions are generic or
procedural, not release-specific.
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3049[20:16:25] <missmbob> it was generic enough and i gave him
the answer.
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3054[20:17:32] <jhutchins> I would expect that most of the people
in debian-next are also here, it's just a higher concentration
there.
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3057[20:17:52] <Cueball> You have to be invited to #debian-next.
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3059[20:18:11] <missmbob> Cueball: read the whole thing. wrong
network
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3060[20:18:16] <Cueball> Differnt network :o
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3061[20:18:23] <Cueball> LoL just read that too.
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3062[20:18:29] <Cueball> I'm tired. LoL
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3074[20:23:38] <hugleo> can I create and bringing up multiples
vlans at once without the need of create a tons of lines in
/etc/network/interfaces ? I need qinq eth1.200[1-4085]
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3075[20:24:20] <azarus> I'm back, jelly greycat. where were
we?
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3077[20:24:42] <opv> hugleo: you could script it and call the
script
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3078[20:25:00] <jhutchins> azarus: Did you ever mention what
release you're running?
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3080[20:25:16] <azarus> jhutchins, stable
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3085[20:26:22] <greycat> Did you fix your postinst script so that
it exits successfully so that you can purge the packages?
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3087[20:26:55] <azarus> Well, it did have a shebang and a
"exit 0", so i'm kinda lost
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3088[20:27:24] <greycat> 13:57 azarus> dpkg (subprocess):
unable to execute installed post-installation script
(/var/lib/dpkg/info/mariadb-server-10.0.postinst): No such file or
directory
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3090[20:27:33] <greycat> The question is *what file* was not
found.
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3092[20:27:58] <greycat> Are you sure the shebang is correct?
Doesn't have a Windows carriage return?
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3094[20:28:20] <azarus> I'm not sure about the CR, but it
did have a correct shebang
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3095[20:28:21] <jelly> hugleo, 2001 to 4085?
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3097[20:28:45] <jelly> oh, QinQ
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3099[20:29:25] <kion> I am trying to run Cinelerra and it
crashes, with my syslog showing libfreetype "having a wrong
version" Jessie has the version 2.5 and the latest one is 2.7
will I break something if I compile and install the 2.7?
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3101[20:30:14] <greycat> azarus: head -1
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mariadb-server-10.0.postinst | cat -e
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3102[20:30:29] <missmbob> ,v libfreetype6
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3103[20:30:30] <judd> Package: libfreetype6 on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.4.9-1.1+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2.4.9-1.1+deb7u3; jessie:
2.5.2-3+deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.5.2-3+deb8u1; stretch:
2.6.3-3+b1; sid: 2.6.3-3+b1
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3104[20:30:34] <missmbob> it requires 2.7? damn.
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3105[20:30:48] <azarus> By the way, greycat, executing the
postinst with sh returns:
replaced-url
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3107[20:31:43] <greycat> Bleh, perl errors from
debconf/frontend... I have no idea what's causing that.
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3108[20:32:06] <greycat> But it's VERY interesting that you
get a different error when you run it with an explicit sh. That
still points to a bad shebang.
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3109[20:32:11] <greycat> azarus: head -1
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mariadb-server-10.0.postinst | cat -e
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3110[20:32:34] <jhutchins> ,v mysqld
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3111[20:32:35] <judd> No package named 'mysqld' was
found in amd64.
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3113[20:32:42] <jhutchins> ,v mysql-server
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3114[20:32:43] <judd> Package: mysql-server on amd64 -- wheezy:
5.5.47-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.5.50-0+deb8u1; wheezy-security:
5.5.52-0+deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.5.52-0+deb8u1;
jessie-security: 5.5.53-0+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 5.6.30-1~bpo8+1;
stretch: 5.6.30-1; sid: 5.6.30-1; sid: 5.7.16-1
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3116[20:33:21] <azarus> greycat, #!/bin/bash -e$
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3118[20:33:50] <greycat> OK, it's not a carriage return. I
didn't know any postinst scripts used bash.
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3120[20:34:16] <greycat> Still don't know where your ENOENT
is coming from.
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3121[20:34:22] <azarus> Can zsh run bash scripts?
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3122[20:34:51] <greycat> Bash can run bash scripts.
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3123[20:34:51] <hugleo> jelly: ;-)
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3125[20:35:08] <greycat> Did you break bash? Is that what's
underlying this whole mess?
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3128[20:35:26] <azarus> It may be that...
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3130[20:35:44] <greycat> What did you do to bash?
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3131[20:35:48] <hugleo> jelly: the script idea looks good. A just
be sure that that script starts before the app...
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3132[20:35:59] <azarus> I removed it
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3135[20:36:33] <azarus> i thought i didn't need it. Seems
i've been an idiot
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3136[20:36:39] <greycat> Well put it back.
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3138[20:36:52] <greycat> This explains where the No such file or
directory came from.
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3139[20:36:58] <azarus> How do i bypass broken dependencies?
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3146[20:38:24] <noqnio1> Hey. I am running debian Jessie for a
while now, and i have quite a few packages including nvidia
proprietary drivers from experimental. What are the chances that
everything will work as intended if i upgrade to stretch ?
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3153[20:40:31] <missmbob> from experiental. people always
surprise me.
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3154[20:40:58] <noqnio1> we discussed it yesterday mate, for
nvidia drivers sometimes it is the only option
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3155[20:41:12] <noqnio1> especially for newer cards
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3157[20:41:35] <missmbob> noqnio1: decent chance something will
break when you go mixing stuff like that. nvidia-driver is in
jessie-backports. you dont need experiemental
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3159[20:42:13] <missmbob> especially when you say "quite a
few"
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3160[20:42:21] <azarus> greycat, Right, now i have broken
dependencies, but how can I fix them without bash installed?
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3161[20:42:47] <greycat> I don't think anyone can answer
that. Just install bash.
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3162[20:43:08] <noqnio1> quite a few was referring to the
packages, i only have nvidia from experimental, i did not have good
results from bp ones
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3163[20:43:17] <azarus> Manually with dpkg? apt can't fix
it's dependencies. jelly
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3164[20:43:27] <azarus> I meant greycat , sorry
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3165[20:43:29] <greycat> If you can't install the bash
PACKAGE right now, you could extract the files and drop the shell in
/bin/bash and pray.
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3167[20:44:10] <greycat> As long as ncurses is still there, you
might be OK....
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3171[20:45:57] <kion> judd, maybe stretch: 2.6.3-3+b1 works, this
may be a stupid question but how do I install that one?
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3172[20:46:06] <jhutchins> Does anybody think that forcibly
installing an uninstallable package sounds like a good idea?
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3174[20:46:31] <missmbob> kion: judd is a bot
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3175[20:46:31] <nkuttler> jhutchins: sounds like great fun
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3176[20:46:56] <missmbob> ,checkbackport libfreetype6
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3177[20:46:59] <judd> Backporting package libfreetype6 in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie, virtual.
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3178[20:47:03] <missmbob> kion: ^^ you can do ssb
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3179[20:47:07] <missmbob> !tell kion about ssb
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3180[20:47:09] <Dracunos> That's not nice, calling someone a
bot
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3183[20:48:18] <kion> judd, thanks, can you explain the process,
all I know was apt-get -t jessie-backports install .... but
sid-->jessie how?
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3185[20:49:14] <missmbob> kion: again, judd is a bot. i'm
calling it for you. c'mon
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3187[20:49:38] <missmbob> kion: see the /msg the other bot, dpkg,
sent you about ssb. it explains how
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3189[20:50:55] <azarus> right, i have extracted the bash package,
greycat. How do i "drop it into /bin/bash", without,
hopefully, messing it all up?
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3192[20:51:30] <greycat> cp, chmod, etc.
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3193[20:51:52] <kion> missmbob, oops, somehow I always end taking
to bots... Thanks
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3196[20:53:28] <bibble> lol
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3197[20:53:56] <azarus> greycat can you cat the preinst of the
bash package?
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3202[20:54:37] <greycat> azarus: for fuck's sake, just PUT
/bin/bash WHERE IT BELONGS and see if it runs.
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3203[20:54:48] <greycat> If it does, then you can try to install
the actual package.
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3207[20:56:13] <missmbob> how did you remove bash, anyway? i just
tried it and apt-get says "DONT DO THIS YOU IDIOT"
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3208[20:56:54] <azarus> missmbob, stupidity
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3215[21:00:21] <azarus> I can't see a executable file in the
bash package, am i missing something?
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3217[21:00:39] <greycat> It's /bin/bash
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3218[21:00:44] <greycat> How hard is this
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3222[21:00:56] <greycat> $ dpkg -L bash | grep bin/bash
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3223[21:00:56] <greycat> /usr/bin/bashbug
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3224[21:00:56] <greycat> /bin/bash
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3225[21:01:03] <azarus> I put the package contents in /bin/bash
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3227[21:01:25] <greycat> You mean you extracted it in /tmp and
then you copied /tmp/bin/bash to /bin/bash ?
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3229[21:01:40] <azarus> Yes.
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3230[21:01:50] <greycat> And then you made sure it's got 755
perms?
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3231[21:01:52] <greycat> And then you ran it?
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3237[21:03:02] <azarus> Problem is, greycat , the contents
aren't really binaries
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3243[21:03:54] <greycat> I have no fucking clue what you are
talking about.
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3246[21:05:14] <azarus> Here are the contents of the bash
package: conffiles, control, md5sums etc,
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3247[21:05:17] <greycat> Did you extract something that
ISN'T a debian binary package of bash?
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3248[21:05:29] <greycat> Did you not fully extract it?
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3249[21:05:44] <greycat> What is the name of the FILE that you
extracted from?
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3252[21:06:15] <azarus> greycat,
/var/cache/apt/archives/bash_4.3-11+b1_amd64.deb
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3255[21:06:36] <greycat> Then there should be a data.tar.gz file
that came out of the ar archive. Extract that with gzip and/or tar.
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3258[21:06:52] <greycat> Or extract with dpkg -x or something, I
dunno.
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3261[21:07:32] <azarus> greycat, i tried with dpkg -e
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3263[21:07:48] <greycat> -e, --control filename [directory]
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3264[21:07:49] <greycat> Extract control-information from a
package.
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3266[21:07:52] <greycat> Why the hell did you do that...
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3268[21:08:01] <greycat> Look RIGHT BELOW THAT in the man page.
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3270[21:08:12] <azarus> *facepalm* I'm truly an idiot.
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3275[21:11:04] <azarus> Hey, after some legitimate thinking i got
into a bash shell!
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3313[21:20:06] <azarus> I managed it, greycat, thank you for your
help.
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3314[21:20:22] <missmbob> azarus: you did remember to reinstall
the bash package after?
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3315[21:20:22] <azarus> And sorry for being a mindless idiot.
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3316[21:20:25] <azarus> Yes.
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3317[21:20:31] <azarus> I installed the bash package,
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3318[21:20:45] <greycat> In the future, try not removing packages
that have "Priority: required"
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3319[21:20:59] <azarus> I will remember that.
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3339[21:33:10] <christyx> hey
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3348[21:35:47] <christyx> I've this weird problem, utorrent
installed, having around 100 mo / s bandwidth, yet utorrent seems to
roof at 20 mo / s. How's that ? (Basically having massive
seeded downloads in progress, launch speedtest at the same time,
speedtest measures bandwidth around 80 mo /s)
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3352[21:36:15] <christyx> Seems like my modem, ISP or computer is
nerfing utorrent, but how...
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3353[21:36:35] <greycat> I would look for a bandwidth throttle
within utorrent first.
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3355[21:37:20] <LennyKitty> is it possible to install debian from
my arch insitutational
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3356[21:37:26] <LennyKitty> instalation
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3357[21:37:32] <greycat> !debootstrap
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3358[21:37:32] <dpkg> debootstrap can create a basic Debian
system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a
<chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a
Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>.
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3360[21:38:16] <christyx> greycat: will look into it, thanks
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3370[21:38:43] <bibble> christyx: please post if it does turn out
to be your isp though
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3374[21:40:18] <LennyKitty> greycat, I need to use my corrent
separate /home parittion
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3375[21:40:38] <greycat> No problem. You can mount that later.
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3376[21:41:08] <bibble> christyx: apparently you can test for
traffic shaping etc here:
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3377[21:41:42] <LennyKitty> alternatively, can I install the live
cd to a hdd partition?
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3378[21:41:55] <greycat> Only if you're on a legacy BIOS
box.
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3379[21:42:04] <greycat> !uefi live
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