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• 2[00:00:30] <gopnik> Auto Mute which is disabled
• 3[00:00:38] <gopnik> One comment, my computer just started doing the terminal beep
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• 7[00:00:57] <gopnik> You know the annoying one that people disable, I turned on the sound channels for it and its working
• 8[00:01:06] <gopnik> My speaker sounds are not though
• 9[00:01:25] <jmcnaught> gopnik: is this a laptop? what happens if you plug in headphones?
• 10[00:02:20] <gopnik> laptop, I plug in headphones and hear lots of static, the beeping now comes through the headphones
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• 12[00:02:51] <gopnik> Its light static
• 13[00:04:04] <gopnik> Muting the headphones in volume control causes the static to stop
• 14[00:04:18] <gopnik> Speakers (unavailable) are listed there...
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• 19[00:06:19] <jmcnaught> gopnik: does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" make a sound?
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• 26[00:08:58] <gopnik> jmcnaught, When I set pavcontrol to Analog Output, I can hear the sound in my headphone (front center). When I set it to headphones I hear nothing and it does not look like it makes a noise in the volume control. Setting it to speakers also does not make a noise but it shows in volume control
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• 30[00:10:57] <jmcnaught> gopnik: in pavucontrols' configuration tab, what profile do you have set? have you tried more than one?
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• 35[00:12:19] <gopnik> Hold on, now my music player is working
• 36[00:12:22] <gopnik> O:
• 37[00:12:37] <gopnik> But google-chrome sounds are now working
• 38[00:13:26] <gopnik> Analog output works with my headphones plugged in, Speakers works with my speakers and no headphones.
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• 41[00:14:03] <jmcnaught> that sounds normal, speakers are usually muted when you plug headphones in
• 42[00:14:23] <gopnik> Yeah, it seems to work with the exception of google-chrome
• 43[00:14:34] <gopnik> Which I can't get any sound from
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• 45[00:15:17] <jmcnaught> chrome is probably trying to use ALSA when everything else is playing nice and using pulseaudio
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• 47[00:15:39] <jmcnaught> i don't know how to fix chrome sorry.. you could try chromium instead
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• 49[00:16:06] <gopnik> chromium works fine
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• 51[00:16:40] <gopnik> So, what was I doing wrong earlier that I fixed in the meantime?
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• 53[00:17:41] <gopnik> Reinstalling google-chrome has resolved the other issue
• 54[00:18:00] <jmcnaught> i'm not sure which specific step fixed it for you. it could have been changing the profile in pavucontrol it could simply have been that the speakers were muted and plugging in headphones then removing them triggered the auto mute
• 55[00:18:40] <gopnik> I see, one more question. How do I set it to auto swap when I plug in headphones?
• 56[00:18:52] <gopnik> Right now I just go into pulse control and set it
• 57[00:19:25] <jmcnaught> that doesn't happen automatically for you? it could be controlled by that "auto-mute" switch you saw in alsamixer
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• 60[00:21:37] <gopnik> So when I plug in headphones it auto swaps to headphones, but I need it in 'analog output' to work
• 61[00:21:51] <gopnik> Then unplugging the headphones does not initiate the transition to speakers
• 62[00:22:12] <gopnik> but if I leave it in headphones mode (where I get no sound) and unplug the headphones, it will correctly swap to my speakers
• 63[00:22:37] <gopnik> omg wait
• 64[00:22:51] <gopnik> I had headphones muted... I don't know how I missed that
• 65[00:22:59] <gopnik> Anyways, all my issues are resolved now
• 66[00:23:11] <gopnik> jmcnaught, You are a saint, and wait too patient, is there a tip jar?
• 67[00:23:29] <gopnik> ./s/wait/way
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• 71[00:25:29] <jmcnaught> gopnik: no problem, glad you figured it out
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• 131[00:59:53] <Ivanhercaz> Hi everyone! Is there anybody wiki administrator?
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• 137[01:01:33] <abrotman> which wiki
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• 139[01:02:08] <Ivanhercaz> Debian Wiki abrotman, I'm trying to create an account and it is given me a fail
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• 141[01:02:36] <Ivanhercaz> Before to contact with wiki@debian.org I would like to know if someone could help me here :)
• 142[01:02:43] <abrotman> Ivanhercaz: there's a contact distro at the bottom of the page
• 143[01:02:48] <abrotman> probably not
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• 149[01:04:50] <Ivanhercaz> Okay, I will contact with the email.
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• 153[01:06:54] <jaggz> okay.. how do I make a custom shortcut to account for libreoffice's "paste special" (ctrl-shift-v) window not taking focus?
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• 155[01:07:16] <jaggz> I am having to do a LOT of paste-specials, and switching to the mouse is messing me up
• 156[01:07:25] <jaggz> I need to paste-special -> unformatted
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• 161[01:08:38] <jaggz> it's apparently this bug: replaced-url
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• 169[01:16:38] <Includes08> replaced-url
• 170[01:16:41] <Includes08> can anyone help me out?
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• 197[01:38:16] <annakamilla2> helo
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• 216[01:49:53] <AlexLikeRock2> how to test with stress GRAPHIC card?
• 217[01:49:58] <AlexLikeRock2> very stress!
• 218[01:50:57] <bazhang> which card
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• 220[01:52:50] <AlexLikeRock2> intel graphics
• 221[01:53:17] <bazhang> which particular one
• 222[01:53:19] <AlexLikeRock2> yesterday i use pcsxr, and some minutes later go to slow
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• 224[01:53:47] <AlexLikeRock2> and i dont have problems with Nintendo64
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• 226[01:54:11] <bazhang> give us the exact card info
• 227[01:54:23] <bazhang> 'intel' could be anything
• 228[01:54:29] <AlexLikeRock2> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
• 229[01:54:53] <AlexLikeRock2> i got wheezy
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• 231[01:55:04] <babilen> AlexLikeRock2: Don;t crosspost
• 232[01:55:15] <bazhang> thats going to be slow no matter what
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• 236[01:56:01] <AlexLikeRock2> LOL
• 237[01:56:12] <bazhang> whats funny AlexLikeRock2
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• 239[01:56:57] <AlexLikeRock2> ha aha ha aha takyou babilen ,, "slow no matter what"
• 240[01:57:13] <abrotman> wrong person ..
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• 244[01:58:20] <AlexLikeRock2> bazhang, if i upgrade to jessie ?
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• 246[01:58:25] <AlexLikeRock2> or STRETCH ?
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• 248[01:58:43] <AlexLikeRock2> new drivers... more faster....?
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• 251[01:59:07] <bazhang> AlexLikeRock2, 'no matter what'
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• 253[01:59:29] <bazhang> drivers wont fix a slow old card
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• 255[01:59:39] <AlexLikeRock2> ok
• 256[02:00:45] <AlexLikeRock2> i got this laptop
• 257[02:00:45] <AlexLikeRock2> replaced-url
• 258[02:00:56] <AlexLikeRock2> they have a PRINT FINGER reader
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• 260[02:01:12] <AlexLikeRock2> how to start login qhit it ?
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• 265[02:01:27] <AlexLikeRock2> KDM, GDM3, ligthDM, slim , etc, etc
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• 274[02:03:19] <abrotman> AlexLikeRock2: what problem are you having?
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• 276[02:03:51] <AlexLikeRock2> how to make works the print finger at DM
• 277[02:03:54] <AlexLikeRock2> ??
• 278[02:04:01] <abrotman> how is that related to your graphics speed?
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• 280[02:04:46] <AlexLikeRock2> 301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.118 FPS
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• 284[02:04:59] <abrotman> that's not a fingerprint reader
• 285[02:05:15] <AlexLikeRock2> well i have 2 problems
• 286[02:05:19] <abrotman> start with one
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• 290[02:05:52] <AlexLikeRock2> graphic card go SLOW at PCSXR (Playstation emulator) few minutes laters
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• 295[02:06:20] <abrotman> Yes, an intel graphics card can do 3d,but it will not play quickly for state of the art/newer games
• 296[02:07:15] <abrotman> newer kernels/drivers may improve it, but probably not dramatically
• 297[02:07:28] <AlexLikeRock2> its PS1
• 298[02:07:33] <AlexLikeRock2> its not NEW
• 299[02:07:49] <AlexLikeRock2> well, by the way, tanks
• 300[02:07:49] <galex-713> Why isn’t retroshare packaged? I think it used to be
• 301[02:07:53] <abrotman> A PS1 is not native to linux, you're emulating things
• 302[02:08:06] <AlexLikeRock2> my second problem:
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• 304[02:08:14] <SuperTramp83> galex-713: +1
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• 306[02:08:40] <AlexLikeRock2> i have a laptop, they have a PRINT FINGER reader ,
• 307[02:08:47] <AlexLikeRock2> how to make work ?
• 308[02:09:40] <AlexLikeRock2> abrotman, KDM, GDM3, ligthDM, slim , etc, etc
• 309[02:09:47] <petn-randall> Yeah, PS1 wasn't even x86 hardware
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• 312[02:10:41] <Arahael> PS1 = playstation 1?
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• 315[02:11:04] <petn-randall> Arahael: In this case, yes
• 316[02:11:27] <Arahael> thanks, just tryjng to make sense of the convo :)
• 317[02:11:31] <petn-randall> (not the command prompt $PS1 ;) )
• 318[02:11:38] <Arahael> heh, indeed.
• 319[02:11:40] <AlexLikeRock2> Arahael, PS1 = Playstation 1
• 320[02:12:28] <AlexLikeRock2> PCSXR = PlayStation 1
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• 322[02:12:59] <Arahael> i couldn't imagine playstations being emulated fantastically well on x86 hardware.
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• 324[02:13:46] <Arahael> i'd get a TV card and a real playstation 1.
• 325[02:13:50] <AlexLikeRock2> well , at my desktop , its going cool
• 326[02:14:11] <AlexLikeRock2> i got AMD SEMPRON at my desktop :)
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• 330[02:14:43] <Arahael> that will get hot.
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• 335[02:16:43] <AlexLikeRock2> nop :)
• 336[02:16:57] <AlexLikeRock2> ok back to my rpoblem #2
• 337[02:17:28] <AlexLikeRock2> i have a laptop, they have a PRINT FINGER reader ,how to make work ?
• 338[02:17:36] <AlexLikeRock2> KDM, GDM3, ligthDM, slim , etc, etc
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• 340[02:19:48] <babilen> AlexLikeRock2: What have you tried so far?
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• 342[02:20:18] <AlexLikeRock2> why?
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• 348[02:23:15] <Arahael> AlexLikeRock2: you don't think it's relevant?
• 349[02:23:33] <AlexLikeRock2> yes
• 350[02:23:38] <abrotman> AlexLikeRock2: google knmows about how todo this
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• 353[02:23:56] <AlexLikeRock2> what its the magical words ?
• 354[02:24:16] <abrotman> linux fingerprint reader
• 355[02:24:23] <abrotman> shocking, Iknow
• 356[02:24:44] <AlexLikeRock2> tanks abrotman
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• 360[02:26:19] <zinx> abrotman: how did you ever come up with such arcane search terms?
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• 385[02:36:56] <abrotman> zinx: I asked duckduckgo how to search google for help with linux fingerprint readers ..
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• 392[02:39:46] <zinx> abrotman: ahh
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• 418[02:59:20] <Arahael> zinx: that is what decades of hard-earned experience teaches you.
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• 527[04:30:06] <stoned> Is there a thesaurus for linux command line?
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• 530[04:30:26] <stoned> I use dict every day and I read the man page but it has no thesaurus option
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• 533[04:31:07] <stoned> anything but aiksaurus
• 534[04:31:44] <stoned> artha i see, hm
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• 539[04:32:08] <stoned> oh that's gui
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• 541[04:32:49] <stoned> heh. Well nevermind. aiksaurus it is. Nothing else even recognizes some words.
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• 547[04:37:07] <DeaDSouL> hi, is it possible to set a custom location for some packages when installing them by `aptitude install pkg_name` ?
• 548[04:37:21] <abrotman> no
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• 562[04:48:09] <netsca> Hello
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• 568[04:50:47] <k_sze[work]> Is `dpkg-reconfigure locales` supposed to work inside a chroot?
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• 571[04:52:06] <widget> "dpkg-reconfigure locales" should work in a chroot environment.
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• 585[04:57:08] <crucify_me> hello I had trouble with my desktop missing characters in top bar clock etc. I found that 'ALT-F2 + 'r' <enter>' reset the gnome desktop. Is that a permanent fix?
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• 587[04:57:34] <crucify_me> It seems to work so far.
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• 594[05:03:03] <k_sze[work]> widget: I try to get it to generate and set default locale to en_HK.utf8, but it doesn't seem to work. I get setlocale error message whenever I enter the chroot or su to a user in the chroot.
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• 596[05:03:46] <k_sze[work]> And if I ls /usr/share/locale in the chroot, there is no directory for en_HK
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• 636[05:34:34] <nezZario> hey guys, i need to reinstall debian, I badly damaged my install a couple of weeks ago (lost the apt files, and the backups in /var/backups, among other things, with no other backups). I use XFCE as my WM -- should I use the -amd64-xfce-CD1.iso ?
• 637[05:35:02] <nezZario> I need to reinstall as quickly as possible
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• 641[05:38:00] <nezZario> Also, is there a way, for example, to download all the package data for additional packages I'm planning to install, but not install them, on another working system ?
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• 644[05:39:58] <nezZario> Ahh I guess I can just copy over /var/cache/apt/archives ... if i do that, will apt verify the checksums before installing ?
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• 646[05:41:14] <jmcnaught> nezZario: most of the packages will be on that CD, and others can be downloaded from a network mirror. I doubt you'll save much time doing something "advanced" like this
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• 648[05:42:38] <nezZario> jmcnaught: advanced? i'm just suggesting copying the .deb's from /var/cache/apt/archives back over to the new/clean system before running a script I keep around for reinstalling
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• 651[05:43:00] <nezZario> i have a large drive attached that I'm not going to be reformatting, so that cp will be local
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• 653[05:44:33] <jmcnaught> nezZario: are you trying to save the time downloading? if you have more than one Debian system you should consider running something like apt-cacher-ng on your local network
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• 656[05:46:12] <nezZario> jmcnaught: correct, i.e. spend the next 1-2 hrs downloading stuff while I work on my half-broken system, when I'm ready, do as much of the install w/o network as possible / as quickly as possible
• 657[05:46:19] <nezZario> i'll check
• 658[05:46:47] <nezZario> might be worthwhile anyway I have 4 debian systems on my local network they all run debian testing
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• 661[05:47:34] <jmcnaught> nezZario: i use it, it's very easy to set up, and requires a lot less manual intervention than copying stuff into /var/cache/apt/archives
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• 738[06:16:11] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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• 748[06:28:10] * dpkg chirps
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• 771[06:46:02] <somiaj> Lewoco: the libaries that are decided to be loaded are think is done via some alternatives system. What hardware do you ahve?
• 772[06:46:29] <Lewoco> somiaj, It's a virtualbox vm.
• 773[06:46:41] <Lewoco> somiaj, I have the virtualbox-guest packages installed.
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• 775[06:48:01] <Lewoco> somiaj, I'm beginning to think it's not strictly a OpenGL problem because other virtualbox features (like shared clipboard) are not working either.
• 776[06:48:18] <Lewoco> I think maybe the virtualbox-guest utilities are not working properly.
• 777[06:48:51] <somiaj> did you install the headaers of your kernel so you can compile the guest module?
• 778[06:50:21] <Lewoco> somiaj, Yeah headers are installed.
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• 854[07:57:41] <venkat_330> i get usbmon: command not found...
• 855[07:58:20] <venkat_330> I am trying sniff some usb data and got some simple reference : replaced-url
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• 858[07:59:50] <venkat_330> When i execute the script i get usbmon: command not found..
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• 862[08:01:09] <venkat_330> my usbmon.ko is available in "/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/mon/ "
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• 870[08:10:00] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: "command not found" is complaining about a command, not a kernel module
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• 873[08:11:50] <venkat_330> jmcnaught: is usbmon a special package ??
• 874[08:12:02] <venkat_330> do i need to install it??
• 875[08:12:24] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: apt-file doesn't seem to find that file, it could be in a packaged that was removed
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• 877[08:12:52] <venkat_330> jmcnaught: replaced-url
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• 880[08:15:19] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: that mentions usbdump which i also cannot find with apt-file. sorry i don't know where to get those tools
• 881[08:16:37] <venkat_330> jmcnaught: ok, let me search on that
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• 884[08:17:38] <jmcnaught> venkat_330: that document does have commands like "cat /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon/3u > /tmp/1.mon.out"
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• 914[08:38:40] <darxmurf> hi all
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• 951[09:03:10] <dorkbot> hello i need an elan1000 driver for my machine i think its called i2c_designware
• 952[09:03:13] <dorkbot> how do I get it
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• 968[09:17:16] <musca> Hello dorkbot
• 969[09:17:20] <musca> ,kernels --release jessie-backports
• 970[09:17:21] <judd> Available kernel versions are: jessie-backports: 4.5.0-0.bpo.2-686 (4.5.4-1~bpo8+1)
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• 987[09:24:46] <dorkbot> i dunno how to install those?
• 988[09:25:01] <dorkbot> do i follow this ? replaced-url
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• 997[09:30:35] <musca> dorkbot: no, just install it from the official backports repo
• 998[09:30:41] <musca> !bdo
• 999[09:30:41] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
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• 1001[09:31:07] <MaBunny> Hey guys i need your help
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• 1004[09:31:41] <MaBunny> My computer keeps shutting down after every few mins without any warning
• 1005[09:31:52] <MaBunny> Idk whts going on
• 1006[09:32:25] <MaBunny> Currently i am speaking frm my smartphone
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• 1009[09:33:12] <MaBunny> And if i try to load any resource heavy app like freeciv or gnome-boxes it shuts down
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• 1011[09:33:39] <c-c> MaBunny: is it a laptop
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• 1013[09:34:06] <c-c> MaBunny: you need to fix your laptop battery
• 1014[09:34:56] <dorkbot> i added backport cant find linux
• 1015[09:34:59] <dorkbot> kernal
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• 1018[09:37:16] <PrimalHunter> MaBunny, could also be temperature.
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• 1020[09:37:22] <MaBunny> No it is a computer
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• 1022[09:37:45] <MaBunny> Yes my fan's screws are a bit loose
• 1023[09:38:03] <MaBunny> But i tightened thm again
• 1024[09:38:06] <MaBunny> Idk
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• 1038[09:45:52] <ByteStorm> hey guys I need another kinda help....something not related to my prev question
• 1039[09:46:11] <ByteStorm> i hav my net going from usb0 interface
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• 1042[09:46:40] <ByteStorm> how do i get the privileges to kno the packets being sent to and from tht interface
• 1043[09:46:42] <ByteStorm> ???
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• 1045[09:47:14] <Tekkkz> hello! I have a script line »sudo sh -c """echo -e "PATH+=\":/home/${USERNAME}/.bin/scripts\"" >> /etc/profile"""« whichj should add »PATH+=":/home//.bin/scripts"« to /etc/profile. but it just adds »PATH+=:/home//.bin/scripts« why?
• 1046[09:47:16] <TomTomTosch> install wireshark if you want to look at the content of packets.
• 1047[09:47:25] <ByteStorm> by the way im MaBunny, /msg nickserv info ByteStorm
• 1048[09:47:44] <ByteStorm> TomTomTOsch i hav wireshark....i just cant use it
• 1049[09:47:54] <TomTomTosch> you can't?
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• 1051[09:48:27] <ByteStorm> i mean i had set it up correctly in my prev debian but now i forgot how to do tht again
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• 1053[09:49:04] <ByteStorm> i just need access to "see" the packets being sent via usb0
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• 1055[09:49:27] <ByteStorm> or else ive control over dumpcap
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• 1058[09:50:58] <ByteStorm> The capture session could not be initiated on interface 'usb0' (You don't have permission to capture on that device).
• 1059[09:50:58] <ByteStorm> Please check to make sure you have sufficient permissions, and that you have the proper interface or pipe specified.
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• 1066[09:58:28] <ByteStorm> guys???
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• 1071[10:00:55] <musca> dorkbot: Are you still searching?
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• 1074[10:03:01] <musca> dorkbot: after adding sources you have to "apt-get update", then try "apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64" or its i386 companion, what ever your systems architecture is.
• 1075[10:03:15] <uni_tosch> MaBunny, had to go, still looking for an answer?
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• 1080[10:04:34] <uni_tosch> or ByteStorm rather ^
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• 1085[10:05:49] <musca> Tekkkz: it looks like ${USERNAME} was empty, or the variable name was misspelled
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• 1088[10:07:13] <musca> Tekkkz: It is also a best practice to check for existence of the directory before you add it to the PATH.
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• 1095[10:11:57] <musca> Tekkkz: You should find an example with "grep -C1 'HOME/bin' ~/.profile" (well, that depends on the contents of your own .profile, of course)
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• 1109[10:17:38] <MaBunny> Yes uni_tosch....srry i had gone to eat lunch
• 1110[10:17:47] <Preuk> hello, i have some weird things on KDE (sid) from recent updates
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• 1113[10:18:24] <Preuk> whenever I try to perform session management command (lock, switch user, etc.) my session gets destroyed, any clue?
• 1114[10:18:31] <ByteStorm> hmm yes
• 1115[10:18:48] <Preuk> i was given some pointers about plasma-integration helping with this issue, but it seems weird
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• 1136[10:28:08] <ByteStorm> ok wireshark is running now
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• 1146[10:30:40] <MaBunny> My computer switched off again
• 1147[10:30:43] <MaBunny> :(
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• 1150[10:31:13] <MaBunny> Uni_tosch you said you could help me???
• 1151[10:32:09] <MaBunny> Ok im screwing up the fan reel tight
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• 1153[10:32:21] <uniTosch> Not on my pc right now. But there are explenations online how to get Wireshark running without root
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• 1155[10:32:58] <uniTosch> Me thinks it was reconfiguring Wireshark and adding the user to the Wireshark group
• 1156[10:33:10] <MaBunny> Oh wireshark....its running now
• 1157[10:33:44] <MaBunny> But my computer keeps shutting down again n again
• 1158[10:34:04] <uniTosch> Did you watch the temps?
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• 1160[10:34:56] <MaBunny> No theres no way to watch the temps
• 1161[10:35:12] <bazhang> sure there are
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• 1163[10:35:43] <uniTosch> There is no cpu without thermostat
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• 1165[10:35:58] <MaBunny> My cpu is 2007 era
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• 1169[10:36:21] <bazhang> is this an overclock situation
• 1170[10:36:31] <MaBunny> No
• 1171[10:36:45] <bazhang> so get the temp checked
• 1172[10:36:53] <MaBunny> Im not doing such stuff in my computer
• 1173[10:36:59] <MaBunny> Ok will try
• 1174[10:37:13] <bazhang> ,v sensors
• 1175[10:37:14] <judd> No package named 'sensors' was found in amd64.
• 1176[10:37:16] <leetcool> finally recovered from read only fs
• 1177[10:37:40] <bazhang> perhaps its lm-sensors
• 1178[10:37:49] <MaBunny> But is there a way to load some proprietary kernel pieces tht i dont kno of
• 1179[10:37:58] <MaBunny> Yes lm sensors
• 1180[10:39:45] <MaBunny> Earlier while installing conky it said tht it needed some kernel pieces
• 1181[10:39:56] <MaBunny> Idk which of thm
• 1182[10:40:29] <MaBunny> I hav included the backports - proprietary repos in sources.list
• 1183[10:40:50] <bazhang> the message read 'some kernel pieces'?
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• 1185[10:41:19] <MaBunny> No idk whts it called
• 1186[10:41:40] <bazhang> pastebin the exact commands and errors
• 1187[10:41:59] <MaBunny> Haha im in my smartphone
• 1188[10:42:18] <MaBunny> Screwing up the fan of my motherboard now
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• 1190[10:42:25] <bazhang> then do it when you are not
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• 1192[10:42:29] <uniTosch> The handbook has pretty clear instructions on how to use lm Sensors replaced-url
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• 1195[10:43:21] <MaBunny> Unitosch resend me the link whn im in my computer pls
• 1196[10:43:29] <uniTosch> s/handbook/d-administration
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• 1199[10:44:40] <uniTosch> Are you joking? Just bookmark it on your phone...
• 1200[10:44:59] <bazhang> his phone is zero g
• 1201[10:45:02] <uniTosch> Or Google debian + lm-sensors
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• 1204[10:45:10] <uniTosch> Right...
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• 1208[10:46:06] <MaBunny> Ok done screwing switching on my computer
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• 1216[10:48:52] <ByteStorm> ok uniTosch can you send me the link???
• 1217[10:49:18] <bazhang> replaced-url
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• 1220[10:50:11] <ByteStorm> thnx
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• 1236[10:58:19] <Mogambo> ok bazhang how do i type this: # cd /dev && ./MAKEDEV i2c
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• 1242[11:01:58] <Xat`> Hi guys ! I need to download debian 7, but I'm not able to find it
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• 1247[11:03:54] <vvuja> Xat`, one sec
• 1248[11:04:32] <nkuttler> !tell Xat` about install wheezy
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• 1251[11:05:06] <Xat`> thank, there are 3 DVD for Debian 7 ?!
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• 1253[11:05:50] <Mogambo> ok guys ive loaded the modules....how do i start them???
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• 1257[11:07:16] <vadmeste> Hello everybody. Is there any Debian installer with backported packages ? I have a Dell XPS 13 which can connect to the internet only via wireless, however this latter seems not supported in the current stable Debian but it does with backported packages.. Any thoughts?
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• 1259[11:07:24] <vvuja> Xat`, which architecture?
• 1260[11:07:28] <Xat`> amd64
• 1261[11:07:31] <vvuja> ok
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• 1263[11:07:54] <vvuja> replaced-url
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• 1265[11:08:00] <vvuja> I think this is all you need
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• 1267[11:08:12] <vvuja> newest version of Wheezy is 7.11.0
• 1268[11:08:17] <vvuja> download CD-1 iso
• 1269[11:08:21] <vvuja> install minimal system
• 1270[11:08:32] <vvuja> and then with apt-get and configured network sources which you can find on Internet
• 1271[11:08:37] <vvuja> download whatever you want from mirror
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• 1273[11:08:42] <Xat`> ok thank
• 1274[11:08:45] <vvuja> yw
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• 1277[11:08:58] <blut> Hello, I'm working with the preseed configuration. I want to make it use a custom shell script for partitioning. Is a there a way to use that directly instead of the udeb work around?
• 1278[11:08:58] <vvuja> if you want complete install
• 1279[11:09:04] <vvuja> replaced-url
• 1280[11:09:12] <vvuja> go to this link and download all ISO images
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• 1284[11:10:01] <bazhang> blut, is that ubuntu or debian
• 1285[11:10:24] <blut> ubuntu
• 1286[11:10:37] <bazhang> why post here
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• 1288[11:11:12] <blut> i also asked in #ubuntu, but since it's the debian-installer and originated here, I assumed someone here might be knowledgable on the subject
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• 1326[11:31:47] <rdz> why is mysql 5.6 not in Debian stable?
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• 1330[11:32:30] <moty66> What is the best place to start X11 and a web browser after boot process compete? I am on debian jessie
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• 1334[11:33:55] <moty66> do I have to create a service for that or do I have to edit /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service ?
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• 1336[11:33:57] <blut> moty66: at home
• 1337[11:34:45] <moty66> blut: I am looking to do that without any user interaction, I would like to create a kiosk browser
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• 1340[11:35:38] <blut> moty66: just create an autologgin with minimal window manager (e.g. dwm stripped down)
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• 1343[11:35:59] <blut> easiest way would be through a .xinitrc
• 1344[11:36:17] <moty66> blut, I am using openbox as window manager, but I can't understand how systemd works and when do I have to startx
• 1345[11:37:29] <blut> do you have a graphical target?
• 1346[11:37:42] <blut> or better, are you using graphical as your target?
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• 1348[11:38:21] <moty66> when I type systemctl get-default, the output is graphical.target
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• 1350[11:38:48] <moty66> but I have nothing about graphical target inside /etc/systemd/system
• 1351[11:38:57] <blut> well then it would probably start the display-manager.service
• 1352[11:39:11] <blut> is there a default.target?
• 1353[11:39:37] <moty66> nope
• 1354[11:39:55] <moty66> here is the list of targets: getty.target.wants halt.target.wants multi-user.target.wants paths.target.wants poweroff.target.wants reboot.target.wants sockets.target.wants sshd.service syslog.service
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• 1356[11:40:29] <blut> I'm not using debian so I'm not sure where it is on your system. try locate
• 1357[11:41:15] <moty66> I have a file in /lib/systemd/system/default.target
• 1358[11:41:18] <Includes08> /join #hardware
• 1359[11:41:58] <blut> moty66: do you have a display manager installed? Do you even want one?
• 1360[11:42:12] <ByteStorm> guys is there a way to add a repo to sources.list without using any text editor like nano or vim??? of course using su
• 1361[11:42:22] <blut> ByteStorm: cat
• 1362[11:42:44] <ByteStorm> cat??? can you give me an example blut??
• 1363[11:42:48] <moty66> I have openbox installed
• 1364[11:42:48] <blut> ByteStorm: or echo
• 1365[11:42:52] <vvuja> Bytestorm: echo "line" >> sources.list
• 1366[11:43:01] <ByteStorm> ok thnx
• 1367[11:43:10] <vvuja> line is of course your repo line
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• 1370[11:43:37] <ByteStorm> also can it be this: cat "line" >> sources.list
• 1371[11:43:49] <aleksa> I've followed replaced-url
• 1372[11:44:27] <aleksa> I type localhost/user/ in browser but all I get is Not Found
• 1373[11:45:00] <aleksa> However, I can access all files from /var/replaced-url
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• 1376[11:46:38] <aleksa> Wait, ~user works, but "user" without tilda doesn't?
• 1377[11:46:38] <moty66> aleksa: try replaced-url
• 1378[11:46:45] <aleksa> I understood
• 1379[11:46:49] <aleksa> it works
• 1380[11:46:51] <vvuja> ByteStorm, sorry I was away
• 1381[11:46:55] <jelly> aleksa: correct, that's how mod_userdir does things
• 1382[11:46:57] <vvuja> Bytestorm no it can not be cat
• 1383[11:47:05] <ByteStorm> ok
• 1384[11:47:07] <aleksa> I believe it should be emphasized in article on debian wiki
• 1385[11:47:11] <vvuja> cat would expect file as first param
• 1386[11:47:15] <vvuja> not line
• 1387[11:47:21] <vvuja> echo expects stringt
• 1388[11:47:23] <vvuja> string
• 1389[11:47:28] <ByteStorm> ok
• 1390[11:47:33] <aleksa> This sentence --> Place some web content in ~/public_html and see the results at replaced-url
• 1391[11:48:03] <vvuja> aleksa, of course if mod_userdir is enabled on apache2 by default
• 1392[11:48:06] <aleksa> Another sentence should be added on Wiki, saying that tilda (~) has to preceed the username
• 1393[11:48:15] <vvuja> aleksa, which can be or can't be
• 1394[11:48:26] <aleksa> Tilda is an obligatory prefix then
• 1395[11:48:38] <vvuja> aleksa, if not then you need to explain how to enable mod_userdir in apache2 as module
• 1396[11:48:56] <jelly> it's a wiki. Perhaps you can login/register and fix it?
• 1397[11:48:59] <vvuja> and then how to configure it in sites-available as "mod_userdir public_html" line
• 1398[11:49:18] <aleksa> jelly, I don't feel free to edit Wiki on English. I'm not a native English speaker.
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• 1400[11:49:58] <uniTosch> If you have Typos someone will fix it pretty fast
• 1401[11:50:07] <uniTosch> Content is more important.
• 1402[11:51:09] <aleksa> uniTosch, ok, I'll do it
• 1403[11:51:33] <uniTosch> X)
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• 1405[11:52:16] <aleksa> Account creation failed: Due to an ongoing spam attack, this wiki is configured to not automatically create wiki accounts for some users. Please contact wiki@debian.org first if you wish to create an account, and describe what you want to do in the wiki..
• 1406[11:53:29] <uniTosch> Ah. That or asking #debian-replaced-url
• 1407[11:53:31] <aleksa> uniTosch, or any other people that already have got an account there, please, be kind and add the sentence instead of me. I cannot even get an account there, not without contacting stuff first, which seems like a complication to me
• 1408[11:54:03] * uniTosch is on his phone right now
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• 1442[12:12:54] <HD|Laptop> Hi all
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• 1446[12:14:49] <HD|Laptop> How do I make the dnsmasq service depend on wlan0 interface?
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• 1448[12:15:57] <HD|Laptop> wlan0 is a usb stick and eth0 comes up before wlan0, thus fulfilling WantedBy=multi-user.target
• 1449[12:16:14] <HD|Laptop> but of course dnsmasq fails to start because wlan0 isn't UP yet
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• 1454[12:18:24] <blut> Hello, I'm working with the preseed configuration. I want to make it use a custom shell script for partitioning. Is a there a way to use that directly instead of the udeb work around?
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• 1459[12:20:53] <vlt> Hello. Just last week I installed (after years of server only) a Debian system with a desktop environment. I’m pretty sure sure there was no firefox package so I installed iceweasel. Now I ran apt update and dist-upgrade and now there’s a "firefox" pkg available and a "firefox-esr" (plus l10n) even installed. What happened here?
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• 1462[12:23:12] <RoyK> vlt: replaced-url
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• 1487[12:34:56] <vlt> RoyK: Thank you.
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• 1490[12:36:03] <vlt> The article is from march. Did I do something special to get the firefox packages with the last update or is it a coincedence that this happened now?
• 1491[12:36:49] <uniTosch> The change is pretty new on stable.
• 1492[12:37:06] <jelly> vlt: a very recent point release update introduced this change to debian 8
• 1493[12:37:39] <jelly> this is fine and expected, you did nothing wrong
• 1494[12:37:54] <vlt> Ok, thank you!
• 1495[12:37:59] <uniTosch> It's just bumping Firefox to the next esr because the the last reached eol.
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• 1498[12:38:24] <uniTosch> And they skipped the rebrand because it's no longer needed.
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• 1515[12:48:18] <Netek> hi all, I currently have a WordPress site on a VPS running PHP5.6 and I wish to upgrade to PHP7. Can anybody recommend any links for good starting points to do this?
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• 1519[12:49:49] <uniTosch> Php7 is not officially in debian stable. Is there a practical reason you want to "Upgrade" to php7 ?
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• 1523[12:51:11] <Netek> uniTosch I have a website that is running very slow with PHP 5.6 and with local testing PHP7 is much faster
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• 1525[12:51:20] <uniTosch> You will find unofficial ways on how to install php7 on stable. A quick Google Search will help. Those are not supported here, though.
• 1526[12:51:40] <Netek> A big difference in speed. Do you know when Debian will have PHP7?
• 1527[12:51:53] <uniTosch> With the next Release.
• 1528[12:52:06] <uniTosch> About a year probably.
• 1529[12:52:10] <Netek> ok :(
• 1530[12:52:18] <uniTosch> ,i php7.0
• 1531[12:52:23] <judd> No package named 'php7.0' was found in jessie/amd64.
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• 1533[12:52:28] <Netek> you are?
• 1534[12:52:38] <uniTosch> ,v php7.0
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• 1536[12:52:39] <judd> Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- stretch: 7.0.7-4; sid: 7.0.7-4
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• 1639[13:49:09] <CQ> do 2,5" IDE HDDs require power? I'm thinking of removing the CD Drive from a system and replacing it with an IDE HDD
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• 1641[13:49:24] <Arahael> CQ of course.
• 1642[13:49:27] <CQ> or is there enough power over the cable itself? the drive doesn't have separate input for power
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• 1644[13:49:47] <Arahael> CQ: cd drives also require power.
• 1645[13:49:49] <FinalX> should be, yeah
• 1646[13:50:03] <c-c> CQ: maybe #hardware
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• 1649[13:50:16] <FinalX> 2.5" IDE cables are slightly different, they have additional power lanes afaik
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• 1655[13:51:23] <CQ> the CDROM cable doesn't fit anyway, seems to be a specoal cable...
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• 1657[13:51:28] <CQ> special
• 1658[13:51:41] <CQ> annoying, I just trashed a bunch of old ribbon cables last year : (
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• 1661[13:52:51] <JyZyXEL> is it possible to run android apps on debian?
• 1662[13:53:08] <TheQuestionmark> With an emulator, indeed.
• 1663[13:53:16] <JyZyXEL> whats the name of the emulator?
• 1664[13:53:38] <TheQuestionmark> Genymotion.
• 1665[13:54:00] <TheQuestionmark> Well basically it's a preconfigured VirtualBox container but it has Android running inside.
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• 1668[13:56:08] <Preuk> JyZyXEL: or you could just install android dev tools, run an intel-based image in emulator
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• 1675[13:56:36] <JyZyXEL> Preuk: whaaat
• 1676[13:56:43] <Preuk> or any intel android image in virtualbox, yes
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• 1679[13:57:03] <uniTosch> Which is slow a-f without the Intel hw acceleration iirc.
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• 1684[13:58:52] <TheQuestionmark> Heh... received some old HP TC4200 today. Gotta do something with it for my chef. That's gonna be fun.
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• 1704[14:07:54] <JyZyXEL> Preuk: do you mean google-android-build-tools-installer
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• 1725[14:16:03] <paul_grozav> hello, is there any way I could check the version of g++ in debian testing/unstable ?
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• 1727[14:16:57] <uniTosch> ,v g++
• 1728[14:16:58] <judd> Package: g++ on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1; jessie: 4:4.9.2-2; stretch: 4:5.3.1-3; sid: 4:5.3.1-3; experimental: 4:6-20160101-3
• 1729[14:17:11] <FinalX> also, replaced-url
• 1730[14:17:45] <uniTosch> Also apt-cache policy g++ if you are running testing
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• 1736[14:19:25] <paul_grozav> thanks, all, that's the thing, that I'm on stable and I was just curious about what I would get if I were to switch. Thanks
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• 1743[14:20:57] <uniTosch> Nite that the 4: in front is the Epoch, not the major Software Version number.
• 1744[14:21:14] <uniTosch> s/Nite/note
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• 1767[14:30:08] <damasceno> Hello. I'm trying to mount /var during the boot without using fstab (Because it's an AWS EC2 instance, I'm doing this via CloudFormation, that's why I can't use fstab, only after the reboot), this is what I'm doing: replaced-url
• 1768[14:30:15] <damasceno> Does anyone have any clue?
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• 1799[14:45:20] <ByteStorm> hey guys
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• 1802[14:45:41] <ByteStorm> im now installing jessie 8.4 in a virtual machine
• 1803[14:46:22] <vlt> ByteStorm: Good luck!
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• 1809[14:48:36] <ByteStorm> does installing Debian desktop environment load any gui stuff???
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• 1811[14:49:05] <ByteStorm> i want only cli in tht virtual machine
• 1812[14:49:16] <ByteStorm> command line interface
• 1813[14:49:22] <ksk> ByteStorm: istn a desktop GUI stuff? the fuck..
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• 1815[14:49:39] <ByteStorm> ksk ????
• 1816[14:49:53] <Arahael> ksk: that language isn't appropriate.
• 1817[14:50:03] <babilen> ByteStorm: Only if you install a desktop environment. There's a package selection step and you just have to make sure to *not* tick the "desktop environment" checkbox or select a specific one
• 1818[14:50:05] <ksk> ByteStorm: how can you think a "desktop" version of a opearating system has no GUI Stuff?
• 1819[14:50:36] <ByteStorm> hmm....ksk debian has
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• 1822[14:50:40] <babilen> ksk: Please, obviously the question wasn't worded perfectly, but try to be helpful and nice.
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• 1824[14:51:04] <ByteStorm> ]babilen so i uncheck the Debian desktop environment???
• 1825[14:51:34] <babilen> ByteStorm: If you install the "desktop" you get "a GUI" (which is probably what ksk was referring to), so if you don't want to install a desktop environment then don't select it during the software selection stage.
• 1826[14:51:49] <babilen> Yes, yes you do .. I'd install the standard task though
• 1827[14:52:01] <uniTosch> If you don't want a gui then yes. Else Gnome gets Installed by default.
• 1828[14:52:04] <Arahael> and "ssh server".
• 1829[14:52:21] <ByteStorm> ksk it says in the options menu Debian desktop environment
• 1830[14:52:44] <ByteStorm> and i asked if checking tht loads any gui stuff
• 1831[14:52:57] <uniTosch> It will load Gnome iirc.
• 1832[14:52:58] <ByteStorm> ok thnx guys
• 1833[14:53:15] <uniTosch> Even if Gnome is not selected.
• 1834[14:53:30] <babilen> Just do not install the desktop environment task
• 1835[14:53:37] <babilen> (unless you want it)
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• 1837[14:53:49] <babilen> nor select a specific one
• 1838[14:53:49] <ByteStorm> ok babilen...ive unchecked it
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• 1842[14:54:39] <ByteStorm> well what set the alarm bells ringing was the number of packages being downloaded....so i thought i did ask you guys
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• 1847[14:57:59] <vlt> ByteStorm: I usually install my Debian CLI only machines using debootstrap.
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• 1857[15:00:06] <Bmw-01> replaced-url
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• 1859[15:01:01] <bennypr0fane> Hello, what's the recommended way for tracking resovling unsatisfied dependencies? I can't isntall Rainlendar: replaced-url
• 1860[15:01:14] <bennypr0fane> replaced-url
• 1861[15:02:30] <babilen> bennypr0fane: Run "apt-get -f install" and hope that the dependencies can be satisfied. Please don't install random .deb files though as they may happily break your system.
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• 1872[15:03:39] <bennypr0fane> babilen, So downloading jpeg8 from here replaced-url
• 1873[15:04:04] <julius_> hi
• 1874[15:04:15] <bennypr0fane> apt-get -f install just removes unconfigured rainlendar package again...
• 1875[15:04:18] <babilen> judd: v libjpeg8
• 1876[15:04:19] <judd> Package: libjpeg8 on amd64 -- squeeze: 8b-1; wheezy: 8d-1+deb7u1; sid: 8d1-2
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• 1878[15:04:32] <bennypr0fane> I am on Wheezy
• 1879[15:04:51] <babilen> bennypr0fane: And "apt-get -f install" doesn't install that packagre?
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• 1881[15:04:56] <bennypr0fane> no
• 1882[15:05:00] <julius_> is there a common way to let users authenticate via a website to have a log of what connections they used on the network?
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• 1885[15:05:20] <babilen> bennypr0fane: Show me the output of "apt-cache policy libjpeg8" and "apt-get -f install" on replaced-url
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• 1887[15:05:35] <babilen> dpkg: show sources.list
• 1888[15:05:35] <dpkg> Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
• 1889[15:05:44] <babilen> bennypr0fane: ^ that also
• 1890[15:05:47] <bennypr0fane> replaced-url
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• 1892[15:05:51] <babilen> Run "apt-get update" before doing any of this
• 1893[15:06:22] <bennypr0fane> alright, good call ^_^
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• 1899[15:07:57] <bennypr0fane> is there a utility that will pipe the terminal output driectly to paste.debian.net
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• 1903[15:08:36] <bennypr0fane> ?
• 1904[15:08:37] <babilen> Plenty (pastebinit, wgetpaste, ...) but you can use pastie.org
• 1905[15:08:54] <babilen> As long as it is not pastebin.com or a similarly broken one it's fine :)
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• 1907[15:09:20] <babilen> "cmd | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' replaced-url
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• 1909[15:09:23] <babilen> is also nice
• 1910[15:10:06] <babilen> bennypr0fane: But don't you have the ability to just copy and paste the output of multiple commands easily in your graphical session?
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• 1912[15:11:36] <bennypr0fane> babilen, if you mean just ctrl+c, sure. I was just wondering if I could aslo use pastie.org or paste.debian.net with one of these cli tools
• 1913[15:11:38] <user_____> hi, does anyone use stretch and has the new cuda 7.5 driver running?
• 1914[15:11:55] <user_____> I can install it and it works but it has problems with the ABI version of my xorg-server
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• 1916[15:12:14] <user_____> I dont know if I can downgrade to a xorg-server with the needed ABI version
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• 1920[15:12:40] <jelly> user_____: ask in #debian-next, over on irc.oftc.net
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• 1924[15:13:16] <user_____> ok jelly :)
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• 1926[15:13:32] <jelly> mind the different network
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• 1929[15:14:33] <bennypr0fane> babilen, not sure what you mean by multiple commands though. I can just Ctrl+C them one after another
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• 1932[15:16:06] <babilen> bennypr0fane: Sure, but you could put the output of all comamnds into a single pastebin
• 1933[15:16:37] <julius_> i installed a new debian with debootstrap onto a seperate partition and i did run update-grub. but at boot time grub does only show debian/linux. it was installed onto the lvm partition; /dev/t560-vg/ubuntu15.04 ( the name is old, im sure i installed debian to it) grep ubuntu /boot/grub/grub.cfg shows notjing?
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• 1935[15:17:34] <kcirick> hi... I can't find a good guide to building a deb package for a homemade code (not from debian repo) that uses ./configure;make;make install process
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• 1937[15:18:06] <markybob> !tell kcirick about checkinstall
• 1938[15:18:13] <markybob> that's the easy way
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• 1940[15:19:36] <kcirick> markybob: thanks
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• 1946[15:23:40] <kcirick> markybob: that was easy, thanks again!
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• 1948[15:24:12] <markybob> kcirick: np
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• 1957[15:31:04] <bennypr0fane> babilen, ~ $ apt-cache policy libjpeg8
• 1958[15:31:04] <bennypr0fane> N: Paket libjpeg8 kann nicht gefunden werden.
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• 1966[15:35:40] <bennypr0fane> babilen, replaced-url
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• 1972[15:38:30] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: if you preceed your command with LC_ALL=C it'll translate the outout, although that one's not hard to interpret.
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• 1978[15:40:19] <bennypr0fane> jhutchins, ah thanks a lot, that'll be very useful
• 1979[15:40:21] <babilen> dpkg: solydxk
• 1980[15:40:21] <dpkg> SolydX and SolydK are GNU/Linux distributions <based on debian>. They are not supported in #debian, use #solydxk on irc.freenode.net instead. replaced-url
• 1981[15:40:31] <babilen> bennypr0fane: ^ -- also jessie is not wheezy
• 1982[15:40:33] <bennypr0fane> jhutchins, alsways into english?
• 1983[15:40:45] <bennypr0fane> babilen, right, sorry
• 1984[15:40:51] <bennypr0fane> got confused
• 1985[15:41:07] <babilen> And we only support Debian in here, not its derivatives
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• 1988[15:41:57] <bennypr0fane> yup, I know. Guilty as charged. they don't have an IRC channel... :-(
• 1989[15:42:51] <babilen> #solydxk ?!
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• 1991[15:43:15] <babilen> haha, rather empty .. well, feel free to install and use Debian and come here for support
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• 1994[15:44:21] <bennypr0fane> I just figured this kind of problem is really solved the same way in everything debian
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• 2006[15:47:36] <bennypr0fane> anyway Thanks a lot, guys!, Have a good one!
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• 2010[15:50:33] <somiaj> kcirick: if you are intersted the new matainers guide can help tell you how to set up a debian/ dir, also debian helper (dh_make and its other programs) can automate a lot of this for simple cases (if what you want to do is make a .deb, for isntall checkinstall or stow work great to manage local source isntalls)
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• 2015[15:53:18] <nwe> hello, I have setup so my machines are installed via preseed, and everything is working create execpt that I only get console output on ttyS0 not on my tty0...
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• 2017[15:53:44] <somiaj> kcirick: none of that is envolved to make personal .deb packages. I personally use dh_make and automate it. But installing things in /usr/local is just fine too.
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• 2040[16:05:11] <w0bni> my installer has been stuck at 0% resizing partition for a long time
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• 2044[16:06:02] <w0bni> /var/log/partman is constantly filling with "parted_server: OUT: 0 shrinking"
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• 2046[16:06:33] <w0bni> this is on a macbook pro, shrinking a pre-made empty partition
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• 2048[16:07:10] <w0bni> any idea what that means?
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• 2108[16:33:07] <eikasem> replaced-url
• 2109[16:33:27] <eikasem> what is happening here? both nginx-common nginx-light are already installed. why is nginx-common an extra package?
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• 2113[16:34:20] <blind> it's being upgraded, and you didn't specify it to be installed.. so it's "extra"
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• 2127[16:38:16] <eikasem> i see. to it's extra packages when installed, NEW packages, whenever an upgrade pulls in new dependencies
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• 2140[16:39:42] <eikasem> blind: thank you
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• 2160[16:49:57] <ByteStorm> hey guys im currenrtly installing debian as a command line interface in my virtual machine
• 2161[16:50:22] <ByteStorm> it stops at the Install the GRUB boot loader process
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• 2163[16:50:44] <ByteStorm> its fails installing at tht step
• 2164[16:50:50] <ByteStorm> can you help me guys???
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• 2167[16:51:09] <ByteStorm> im in the graphical mode of installation btw
• 2168[16:51:38] <ChrisH> check using ALT-F4 (dunno how to get into instalaltion log in GUI mode, never used that)
• 2169[16:52:35] <ByteStorm> ok
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• 2182[17:01:21] <Chips> Hello there, I just come quickly to ask if 3G usb keys are working on Debian to have network everywhere without to have to connect on every Wi-Fi spot you find. Maybe they key will be recognized but it needs a GUI (on Windows, there is a software for it) to enter the login and password to be able to use 3G network.
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• 2193[17:06:41] <ChrisH> Chips: most simply work with Network Manager and usbmodeswitch installed
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• 2195[17:07:28] <Chips> ChrisH: Good to know
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• 2203[17:09:58] <BinBasher> Is there something like a "good news!" package? It's kind of depressing to only see bad news when a message pops up.
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• 2214[17:11:24] <ByteStorm> guys i tried to output the log to my base debian system
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• 2217[17:12:22] <ByteStorm> its in a img file
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• 2219[17:12:42] <ByteStorm> will i take the contents of tht img file to a disk???
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• 2222[17:14:38] <axc1298> to install pepperflash for firefox i need to have chrome installed on my system?
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• 2231[17:17:59] <ChrisH> ByteStorm: what does file file.img say?
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• 2236[17:19:35] <ByteStorm> wait i had loaded the contents of tht initrd.img file to my pendrive using su
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• 2238[17:19:50] <ChrisH> axc1298: check using apt-cache show PKG to see the dependencies... on my system I cannot see chrome as dependency
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• 2241[17:20:04] <ByteStorm> but now when i load it (the pendrive) it doesnt show up on my non-root user acc
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• 2243[17:20:38] <ChrisH> ByteStorm: What? looking into initrd.img does not make any sense, unless you troubleshoot boot problem with exotic HW
• 2244[17:20:48] <axc1298> ChrisH: are you checking pepperflashplugin-nonfree?
• 2245[17:21:06] <ByteStorm> yeah im having a problem installing debian on my virtual machine
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• 2250[17:21:50] <ChrisH> axc1298: Suggests: chromium <-- what does lsb_release -a show?
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• 2254[17:23:07] <axc1298> ChrisH: debian 8.5
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• 2258[17:24:57] <ByteStorm> guys any help???
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• 2261[17:26:23] <ChrisH> axc1298: OK. can you past the command incl. the output in C locale onto paste.debian.net please
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• 2263[17:26:48] <ChrisH> ByteStorm: My suggestion is: reinstall using the text installer
• 2264[17:26:52] <axc1298> ChrisH: you mean lsb_release -a?
• 2265[17:27:03] <ByteStorm> ok
• 2266[17:27:11] <ByteStorm> gawd
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• 2269[17:28:23] <ByteStorm> ok im not loading the boot loader
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• 2271[17:28:35] <ByteStorm> ill learn the kernel ...how to use it
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• 2273[17:29:17] <ChrisH> axc1298: no the install you tried.
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• 2288[17:36:26] <axc1298> ChrisH: i will have to check it in a little while when i go on my other computer. but on packages.debian.org it says it will download chrome. replaced-url
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• 2290[17:37:08] <axc1298> the browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash package makes that work for firefox
• 2291[17:37:18] <axc1298> so they both need to be installed, i believe
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• 2296[17:40:42] <ChrisH> axc1298: it says again: suggests! not depends! if you run apt-get install XXX it is expected not to install the recommended stuff (side note: Ubuntu does)
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• 2298[17:41:17] <axc1298> ChrisH: are you sure? i thought it always installs the recommended stuff
• 2299[17:41:24] <axc1298> unless you use --no-install-recommends
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• 2303[17:43:19] <CQ> hello, I have a xeon 2.8ghz machine (old...) replaced-url
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• 2319[17:47:22] <ChrisH> axc1298: My experience was: default is --no-install-recommends on Debian and --install-suggests ob Ubuntu (I allways got angry on that)
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• 2321[17:48:16] <axc1298> ChrisH: that's not the case. --no-install-recommends is not default on debian
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• 2323[17:48:38] <axc1298> not sure about ubuntu
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• 2327[17:49:38] <axc1298> or maybe i misunderstood you. i mean the correct flag is --no-install-recommends, but it's just not the default behaviour when you install something in debian
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• 2332[17:50:40] <ChrisH> axc1298: replaced-url
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• 2334[17:52:02] <markybob> those are suggested
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• 2385[18:12:26] <ebye> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER ebye ysdnumbnrbdc
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• 2387[18:12:32] <ebye> hah, lol
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• 2390[18:13:14] <gnat_x> time to generate a different password. ;)
• 2391[18:13:17] <jiggawattz> ebye ▸ u dun goofed
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• 2393[18:13:34] <jiggawattz> that looks like a 1Password password
• 2394[18:13:38] <ebye> indeed
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• 2398[18:14:01] <jiggawattz> ebye ▸ Good job on choosing a strong password
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• 2400[18:14:11] <ksk> :)
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• 2439[18:29:24] <ebye> I tried running debian in boxes (ubuntu gnome host), why is the performance so much worse for boxes, than using vmware?
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• 2441[18:29:48] <ebye> or virtualbox
• 2442[18:30:02] <jelly> you probably want to ask the vendor of this "boxes" thing
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• 2444[18:30:10] <ebye> jelly: gnome boxes
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• 2449[18:31:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> vmware provides a vnc client too?
• 2450[18:31:08] <jelly> ebye: if you get the software directly from gnome, then that's who you'd probably ask.
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• 2452[18:31:44] <NoImNotNineVolt> also, how does one use a company like vmware?
• 2453[18:31:46] <jelly> if you got it from the linux distribution (ubuntu), then ask those people
• 2454[18:32:00] <ebye> No: vmware workstation
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• 2458[18:32:27] <NoImNotNineVolt> vmware workstation is a hypervisor. gnome boxes is a vnc client.
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• 2460[18:33:12] <NoImNotNineVolt> they don't do the same thing, so it's not clear how their performance can be compared.
• 2461[18:33:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's like asking why your calculator is so much faster than your car.
• 2462[18:33:34] <ebye> it can also create vms, which is what I did
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• 2465[18:34:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> i think you'r misunderstanding what gnome boxes does.
• 2466[18:34:57] <ebye> it creates a vm using libvirt?
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• 2469[18:35:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> so you're asking why libvirt takes longer to create a new vm than does vmware workstation?
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• 2472[18:36:18] <ebye> not creation, why performance using it is so much worse
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• 2474[18:36:27] <ebye> just sluggish moving windows about and what not
• 2475[18:37:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's how you benchmark your vm performance? how do you account for confounding factors, like the performance of the display transport layer?
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• 2477[18:37:48] <ebye> I haven't benchmarked anything... you can tell right away the experience is worse
• 2478[18:38:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> ah, so it's a 'ux' issue, not a performance issue?
• 2479[18:38:04] <ebye> just wondered if there's an obvious reason, if there's some configuration to do
• 2480[18:38:07] <juanolon> hey ppl. do you know any blueetoth manager on the cli? like wicd-curses for wifi
• 2481[18:38:36] <ebye> NoImNotNineVolt, I don't know what the issue is, that's why I'm asking...
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• 2483[18:38:40] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'd guess that it has nothing to do with the performance of the underlying virtualization system but more to do with the fact that gnome boxes is a vnc client.
• 2484[18:39:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> that is, if you install a vnc server on your vmware workstation vm, and connect to that using any vnc client (gnome boxes or other), you'll see the same performance as any other vnc session.
• 2485[18:39:30] <ebye> alright...
• 2486[18:39:46] <ebye> maybe
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• 2488[18:40:15] <markybob> vmware comes with a built-in vnc server. no need to install another on guest
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• 2490[18:40:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> or that.
• 2491[18:41:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> markybob: the company itself? their entire product line?
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• 2494[18:41:49] <markybob> i was talking about workstation.
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• 2497[18:41:58] <NoImNotNineVolt> gotcha.
• 2498[18:42:08] * NoImNotNineVolt has never used vmware workstation
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• 2500[18:42:44] <ebye> what are my hypervisor options then
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• 2502[18:42:52] <ebye> apart from virtualbox and vmware workstation
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• 2504[18:43:18] <markybob> i like virtualbox for personal use. i have to use vmware workstation for work. not worth the money for personal stuff.
• 2505[18:43:26] <NoImNotNineVolt> xen.
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• 2517[18:46:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> ebye: my point was that the issue isn't the hypervisor, but the display transport you're using.
• 2518[18:46:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> ebye: vnc is slow. no matter which hypervisor you use, if you connect to your guests over vnc, it will be slow.
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• 2521[18:47:41] <ebye> NoImNotNineVolt: yeah... I thought it could be used for vnc also, not that it was a vnc connection when i connected to a vm I'd created
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• 2555[18:57:28] <rocksteady> Hi all.
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• 2557[18:57:43] <rocksteady> I have a problem with traffic/interface stats keep resetting on its own (ifconfig, ip), while iptables shows the correct RX/TX amount. What could be the reason?
• 2558[18:57:50] <rocksteady> The interface is up all the time.
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• 2597[19:12:16] <SirLagz> if I dd zeroes to a SSD, trim should ensure that everything is marked as available right?
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• 2604[19:13:11] <blut> rocksteady: ifconfig, i think, stores the traffic as int or something limited. It resets at about 4.2 GB
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• 2606[19:14:15] <rocksteady> blut: on other devices the traffic counter goes up to several hundred GB
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• 2608[19:14:24] <FinalX> SirLagz: pretty much, but I'd never recommend dd'ing zeroes to an SSD, it'll increase the wear like mad. just make an ext4 filesystem and use fstrim on it while mounted.
• 2609[19:14:34] <rocksteady> I don't think this is a limitation of the kernel or the int value itself
• 2610[19:14:53] <SirLagz> FinalX: I didn't trust the SSD to figured dding zeroes to the whole SSD will make sure all of it works lol
• 2611[19:14:55] <blut> rocksteady: maybe it was a raspberry pi related issue. I'm not sure where I read that
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• 2613[19:14:58] <SirLagz> s/to/so/
• 2614[19:15:06] <rocksteady> however I've never seen a value reported by ifconfig higher than 4 GB on _this_ device
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• 2616[19:15:24] <FinalX> SirLagz: if your system supports it, you could secure erase your drive as well if you want to return it to the factory state :)
• 2617[19:15:27] <rocksteady> blut: Yep it's something similar (banana pi)
• 2618[19:15:46] <rocksteady> Other embedded devices (mips) show a different behaviour
• 2619[19:15:57] <SirLagz> FinalX: not sure if it does or not, but dding zeroes does what I need. thanks for the help
• 2620[19:16:18] <FinalX> ok
• 2621[19:16:37] <SirLagz> just wanted to make sure all of it is writable and there's no bad sectors already or anything that would stop me from using all of the SSD
• 2622[19:16:54] <SirLagz> of course now that I've done the Zeroing, I'm sure it will promptly blow up on me next time I power it on
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• 2625[19:17:21] <FinalX> well, if you have a 128GB SSD and you zero the whole drive, you just increased wear level of it by that amount, that's never healthy for an SSD :)
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• 2627[19:17:36] <blut> rocksteady: replaced-url
• 2628[19:17:44] <SirLagz> FinalX: very true
• 2629[19:17:50] <FinalX> plus, if you zero just a bunch of data or a partition, you never know what "sector"it gets written to, because that's pretty random due to the controller
• 2630[19:18:06] <FinalX> and you'll never get to the reserved blocks until your general blocks fail
• 2631[19:18:09] <SirLagz> FinalX: hence I zeroed the whole drive :D
• 2632[19:18:35] <SirLagz> at least zeroing the whole drive will make sure that anything I can currently write to actually works
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• 2634[19:19:10] <SirLagz> at least thats what my head is telling me...I coudl be wrong though
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• 2640[19:21:10] <juanolon> hey ppl. do you know any blueetoth manager for the cli? like wicd-curses for wifi
• 2641[19:21:11] <rocksteady> blut: Ok, thank you. So there is nothing I have to worry about
• 2642[19:21:17] <jhutchins> SirLagz: Or you could leave it up to the controller to take care of that. It really isn't something you tweak by hand.
• 2643[19:21:21] <FinalX> SirLagz: I see what you're trying to do, but if you try to write data to a bad "sector", it will just replace it with a spare allocatable sector from the spare pool and you'll never notice it (apart from dumping SMART info)
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• 2647[19:22:00] <FinalX> my point is, 1) You won't get anything useful out of it. 2) You increase the wear of your drive by a significant amount and 3) You can never test the entire drive because the controller won't let you.
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• 2651[19:22:42] <FinalX> and 4 what jhutchins and I just mentioned: controller will replace a bad one with a spare one without you needing to pay attention to it
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• 2670[19:28:14] <SirLagz> FinalX: unless it's run out already
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• 2672[19:28:26] <SirLagz> FinalX: which happened to another SSD I had recently
• 2673[19:28:50] <SirLagz> not sure if it was a faulty SSD or it had just been thrashed already to the point where it died
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• 2678[19:31:51] <RoyK> SirLagz: does it show up in lsblk?
• 2679[19:32:01] <SirLagz> RoyK: yep, got a couple of them showing up in lsblk now
• 2680[19:32:14] <SirLagz> RoyK: or do you mean the faulty/dead one?
• 2681[19:32:21] <RoyK> then smartctl -x /dev/whatever
• 2682[19:32:25] <RoyK> yes
• 2683[19:32:27] <RoyK> or all
• 2684[19:32:33] <SirLagz> RoyK: oh, never got the faulty one onto a linux box.
• 2685[19:32:50] <SirLagz> RoyK: that one was the OS drive of a windows machine and windows event log kept spitting out 'bad sector' errors
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• 2688[19:33:16] <RoyK> smartctl is you friend, then, SirLagz
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• 2690[19:33:43] <SirLagz> RoyK: indeed. I'll have to check the dead one when I have a bit of extra time
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• 2692[19:34:06] <SirLagz> but for now, I have the SSDs picked up by the server so that's all I need for now
• 2693[19:34:09] <SirLagz> bed time now! g'ngiht all
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• 2695[19:34:11] <SirLagz> g'night*
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• 2760[19:52:04] <[4nna]> Hello. How do I make it so that when a user connects with ssh/sftp they can only see one directory.
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• 2763[19:52:43] <[4nna]> I made a chroot into /var/replaced-url
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• 2777[19:57:19] <somiaj> [4nna]: I think ssh has an option to chroot the user
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• 2779[19:57:34] <hexnewbie> [4nna]: ChrootDirectory causes the process to chroot after auth
• 2780[19:57:39] <[4nna]> .somiaj, I did that but I can still read any file on the server basically.
• 2781[19:58:22] <somiaj> double check your sshd_config with the ChrootDirectory /var/replaced-url
• 2782[19:58:42] <somiaj> also note that with ssh you may need access to other commands inside that rooted directory, but sftp not so much
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• 2785[19:59:25] <hexnewbie> [4nna]: Did you read the documentation for ChrootDirectory? You need to have a shell, /dev/null, /dev/zero, etc. inside
• 2786[19:59:53] <[4nna]> Okay, in that case how do I make it so that an sftp/ssh user can only access and read one folder and one folder only.
• 2787[19:59:55] <[4nna]> ?
• 2788[20:00:09] <hexnewbie> [4nna]: I'm not sure what happens if chrooting or subsequent chdir fails. I would imagine you're dropped, but I'm not sure
• 2789[20:00:11] <somiaj> [4nna]: do you want it to only be ssh users or sftp users?
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• 2792[20:00:21] <[4nna]> sftp
• 2793[20:00:39] <somiaj> [4nna]: replaced-url
• 2794[20:00:39] <[4nna]> And no executable files also.
• 2795[20:01:08] <[4nna]> What is %h?
• 2796[20:01:15] <somiaj> home directory
• 2797[20:01:21] <[4nna]> Oh.
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• 2802[20:02:29] <[4nna]> The user just gets disconnected.
• 2803[20:02:33] <[4nna]> Does not connect...
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• 2805[20:02:44] <hexnewbie> Also this guide may work for sftp, but will not work for ssh because of the aforementioned devices and executables (mentioned in the man page - though the man page doesn't say they are not required for sftp)
• 2806[20:03:10] <[4nna]> Oh.
• 2807[20:03:12] <somiaj> yea the guide does go on to give some pointers about ssh, but it should be easier for sftp
• 2808[20:03:23] <[4nna]> I´m using sftp?
• 2809[20:03:56] <[4nna]> replaced-url
• 2810[20:04:00] <[4nna]> Just disconnects.
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• 2816[20:05:24] <hexnewbie> [4nna]: In theory, ChrootDirectory should be a real root (with /bin/sh, /dev/null, etc). You can't just chroot into any directory. That *may* work for internal-sftp, because it is not executed, just forked (IIRC), but creating a proper chroot may be required.
• 2817[20:05:27] <somiaj> [4nna]: did you add the 'Subsystem sftp internal-sftp' line
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• 2819[20:05:56] <[4nna]> somiaj yes
• 2820[20:05:59] <[4nna]> hexnewbie ok
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• 2827[20:07:43] <somiaj> [4nna]: replaced-url
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• 2829[20:08:04] <somiaj> also maybe try to do this in their %h (home dir) as per the guide before modifing it to be the static location you are wanting to use
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• 2835[20:09:22] <[4nna]> Still disconnects.
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• 2869[20:19:19] <LitoII> hello, I want to ask about debian7. After degrated happened nvidia_xxxxxxxx changed to nvdia_yyyyyy but image kernet still points to /dev/mapper/nvidia_xxxxxxxx. So after booting system can not be mounted
• 2870[20:19:23] <LitoII> Any ideas?
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• 2873[20:19:59] <greycat> What does nvidia have to do with mounting?
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• 2875[20:20:57] <LitoII> greycat, before degration booting was at /dev/mapper/nvidia_xxxxxx device
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• 2877[20:21:05] <LitoII> fake raid
• 2878[20:21:08] <greycat> Was "nvidia" your hostname?
• 2879[20:21:21] <greycat> Or the name of your LVM volume group?
• 2880[20:21:22] <LitoII> no
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• 2882[20:21:28] <LitoII> the second
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• 2886[20:23:51] <LitoII> how can I update initramfs if I can not mount the fs? Any ideas?
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• 2895[20:25:52] <h-dawg> how do I get a .deb file of this package? replaced-url
• 2896[20:26:00] <h-dawg> I am trying to install it on ubuntu
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• 2903[20:27:56] <markybob> h-dawg: we don't support ubuntu. ask them in #ubuntu
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• 2906[20:28:12] <h-dawg> It's a debian package
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• 2908[20:28:27] <h-dawg> I'm not asking you to help me instal it, I just want to get at the .deb file
• 2909[20:28:29] <markybob> h-dawg: i know. if i give you adivce it might break your ubuntu.
• 2910[20:28:38] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> h-dawg: there's a reason it's not in the ubuntu repo's
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• 2914[20:31:00] <jmd> I'm trying to install debian from a netinst image on a usb stick. All I get on boot is "filesys_type():usb0 don't find" What am I doing wrong?
• 2915[20:31:24] <markybob> jmd: how did you copy it to the usb?
• 2916[20:31:27] <jmd> dd
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• 2921[20:32:16] <jmd> markybob: Was that wrong?
• 2922[20:32:37] <markybob> jmd: no dd is fine. did you checksum?
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• 2926[20:33:00] <jmd> no. I didn't
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• 2930[20:34:02] <h-dawg> sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
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• 2932[20:34:36] <jmd> Where are the checksums published?
• 2933[20:34:58] <markybob> jmd: replaced-url
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• 2935[20:35:54] <markybob> assuming that's the netinst you got. it's what the homepage links you to
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• 2941[20:37:22] <jmd> No. It just says check against the "accompanying checksum files". I don't see any such files.
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• 2944[20:38:04] <markybob> jmd: sha1sums and sha256sums
• 2945[20:38:33] <somiaj> jmd: they were in the same directory you got the image from. Though if you just downloaded the image you may have not downloaded the checksums
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• 2968[20:43:54] <jmd> Right. Well the answer is yes. The checksum is good.
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• 3075[21:39:46] <[4nna]> How do I make it so that an sftp user only has access to one single folder and not any other folder above that?
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• 3087[21:45:49] <[4nna]> Anyone
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• 3094[21:46:55] <unborn> [4nna]: place empty file named nologin into /etc
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• 3096[21:46:59] <greycat> [4nna]: you have to switch from the external sftp_server to the internal sftp_server, and set up chroot crap... people in #openssh might be better able to help
• 3097[21:47:12] <unborn> perhaps I am wrong :)
• 3098[21:47:15] <greycat> it's a really questionable practi e
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• 3100[21:47:39] <greycat> There shouldn't be any secrets in any of your other directories, and therefore no reason to place these additional restrictions.
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• 3106[21:50:43] <[4nna]> Oh really
• 3107[21:51:05] <unborn> [4nna]: that file should keep them in home folder
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• 3111[21:51:39] <unborn> but I cannot remember that.. been long time since I use it.. try it out
• 3112[21:52:06] <[4nna]> unborn wtf
• 3113[21:52:14] <[4nna]> How?
• 3114[21:52:28] <digglr> Does anyone have any experience with Skylake support for debian 8?
• 3115[21:52:48] <unborn> 4ana just create empty file in /etc and name it as: nologin
• 3116[21:53:01] <greycat> /etc/pam.d/sshd:# Disallow non-root logins when /etc/nologin exists.
• 3117[21:53:10] <greycat> I don't think unborn's advice is good.
• 3118[21:53:24] <greycat> /etc/pam.d/login:# Disallows other than root logins when /etc/nologin exists
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• 3121[21:53:50] <unborn> greycat: non root logins will still let other ssh users browse all folders and files on server
• 3122[21:54:28] <greycat> unborn: I don't think so.
• 3123[21:54:31] <unborn> but that file should keep them only in home folders
• 3124[21:54:38] <greycat> I am pretty sure you are quite wrong.
• 3125[21:54:45] <awwal> Seems that if only one DM is installed systemctl doesnt disable/mask the related DM service. I have tried with several DM and always the same: if only 1 display manager is installed in the system, that DM is loaded even if disabled or masked. If there is 2 or more DM's installed, so they can be all disabled. Where / which stuff should I check for find out how debian devs have configured stuff for make the DM loaded anyway?
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• 3127[21:55:08] <unborn> I said I am not sure.. but Ive done it long long time ago.. :)
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• 3130[21:56:10] <frikinz> It's amazing how fail2ban is... failing to detect a lot of brute force attemps on postfix and bind. Had to rewrite several regex. wtf
• 3131[21:56:31] <un214> So I'm sitting here on a dumbass web browser IRC because somebody likes filtering out root in #debian
• 3132[21:56:46] <un214> apt-get dist-upgrade broke windows domain authentication
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• 3134[21:57:12] <un214> I haven't got a clue how to find out what is actually wrong
• 3135[21:57:17] <jmcnaught> unborn: preventing logins is a separate concept from permission to browse. also if someone were to disable non-root logins and didn't have an SSH key in root's authorized_keys, they could find it quite difficult to log into a remote system
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• 3138[21:58:15] <TomTomTosch> un214: from which to which release did you upgrade?
• 3139[21:58:41] <unborn> jmcnaught: yeah that is right actually just checked on my srv..
• 3140[21:58:43] <un214> should be jessie -> jessie (picking up security patches)
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• 3144[21:58:53] <unborn> greycat: youve been right as usually :)
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• 3146[21:59:48] <greycat> !jessie samba
• 3147[21:59:49] <dpkg> A security update in jessie upgrades Samba to 4.2. The NEWS.Debian.gz file has some errors. See <replaced-url
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• 3150[22:01:10] <un214> it's not an XP issue; the linux box can't authenticate against the windows domain controller right now
• 3151[22:01:33] <unborn> xp?
• 3152[22:02:06] <greycat> unborn: XP.
• 3153[22:02:13] <un214> XP -> Windows XP of course
• 3154[22:02:36] <greycat> Although we finally upgraded our standard desktops from XP to Win7 last year, it turns out we still have some straggler (nonstandard) XP machines in use.
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• 3157[22:03:12] <unborn> I thought xp is dead for more then 6 years.. sorry lads..
• 3158[22:03:13] <un214> ls -l on /home takes a stupid long time
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• 3161[22:04:12] <jhutchins> un214: Stupid number of files?
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• 3163[22:04:34] <jhutchins> un214: Failing hardware?
• 3164[22:05:09] <un214> UID -> username has to time out for every username
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• 3168[22:05:52] <un214> winbind seems to be completely hosed
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• 3172[22:06:43] <greycat> un214: outside my experience, I'm afraid, but you could ask #samba what the ramifications of a 4.1 -> 4.2 upgrade might be in your situation
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• 3177[22:09:37] <jhutchins> un214: ls -n
• 3178[22:09:48] <jhutchins> un214: Which, I know, doesn't solve the root problem.
• 3179[22:10:02] <un214> ok asking on samba gives it's known broke right now; how to roll back?
• 3180[22:10:17] <jhutchins> un214: iirc you might need to find the 4.2 docs on connecting a Linux client.
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• 3182[22:10:28] <gobelin789> Hello! After Debian replaced Iceweasel with Firefox-esr i have the problem that even after a clean install of Firefox-esr the browser is unable to start without a message that the previous session could not be restored. I already deleted the .mozialla folder, removed all plugins and reinstalled firefox but it didn't solve the problem. Does anybody experience similar problems and can help? Thank you in advance!
• 3183[22:10:52] <jhutchins> un214: Some of my earliest Linux correspondence was begging for that documentation back when the kernel.org mailing list was the only place to ask.
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• 3187[22:12:30] <somiaj> gobelin789: it might be something in .local or .config that firefox is using.
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• 3190[22:13:44] <TomTomTosch> gobelin789: if you want to disable that function completely you can go into preferences > general > When Firefox starts: ... and select 'Show my home page'
• 3191[22:13:57] <somiaj> gobelin789: maybe not, I'm not seeing anything in either of those direcotrys on my machine.
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• 3194[22:16:07] <somiaj> gobelin789: ahh there is a .cache/mozilla/firefox (maybe that is where it is keeping info about previous sessions)
• 3195[22:17:04] <gobelin789> somiaj, TomTomTosch: Thank you! I'll check the specific directories.
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• 3198[22:18:15] <gobelin789> I've deleted .mozilla and .cache/mozilla but it didn't solve the problem. damn.
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• 3204[22:19:22] <jmcnaught> gobelin789: definitely no old iceweasel process hanging around? do you have the same problem if you test with a new user account?
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• 3206[22:20:56] <gobelin789> jmcnaught, i purged iceweasel. the log says the following: replaced-url
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• 3212[22:24:08] <jmcnaught> gobelin789: i don't have /usr/lib/firefox-esr/chrome.manifest on my system but firefox-esr launches okay. what happens if you run "firefox-esr -safe-mode" ?
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• 3214[22:24:44] <gobelin789> i'll check it
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• 3216[22:25:20] <jmcnaught> gobelin789: also do you have any firefox modules installed from debian packages? "dpkg -l | grep xul-ext"
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• 3219[22:27:53] <Overand> Hey, all! I have a DEbian 8 system I'm using as a VPN "bridging" box. Two interfaces, one on a normal network w/internet connectivity and the other assigned onto to 'isolated VPN clients.' I've got OpenVPN working, and even NAT and DNSMasq; everything works as it should EXCEPT for one thing-
• 3220[22:28:18] <Overand> It works without the VPN connected, even though the IPTables rule is e.g. -A FORWARD -o tun0 -i eth0 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j ACCEPT
• 3221[22:28:31] <Overand> So, if "tun0" doesn't exist, it just... works anyway?
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• 3225[22:29:13] <Overand> That's not the desired behavior; I don't want traffic going out through the 'local network'; only through the tunnel
• 3226[22:29:41] <un214> so I'm going to need help backing out samba 4.2 upgrade
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• 3238[22:35:07] <awwal> A non specific jessie question (sid machine, right now). When I plug my second monitor I get this errors in console (tty1): "[ 60.196803] [drm:intel_check_cpu_fifo_underruns [i915] *ERROR* fifo underrun on pipe B" "[ 60.196832] [drm:intel_check_pch_fifo_underruns [i915] *ERROR* pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder B" , If I unplug the monitor the error I dont get the error again. Found this replaced-url
• 3239[22:35:07] <awwal> but not same circumstances. Any idea? I dont know if it's really kernel related. I dont see the errors in dmesg / xsession-errors. Where to look exactly?
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• 3242[22:35:29] <Overand> Hm. I may actually have sorted mine ut
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• 3250[22:37:02] <gobelin789> jmcnaught, I did a few things like starting it in --safe-mode like you suggested: now it seems to work. maybe it fixed the problem but I have no idea why. somiaj & TomTomTosch: Thanks for your help!
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• 3257[22:38:09] <awwal> Anyone using an extra monitor can try plug & unplug the extra monitor and check if the error is displayed in tty1? :)
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• 3266[22:41:21] <awwal> what the f*** is fifo underrun on pipe B - pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder B ?
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• 3270[22:43:15] <jhutchins> awwal: I think it means you unplugged a monitor and plugged it back in.
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• 3272[22:43:33] <jhutchins> awwal: While the system was sending data to it or reading from it.
• 3273[22:43:48] <strncat> that sounds complicated
• 3274[22:43:59] <strncat> where does one read about this monitor fifo stuff
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• 3284[22:45:41] <maurer> Anyone know how to tell rpcbind to stop listening on UDP, and deal only in TCP connections?
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• 3286[22:46:06] <awwal> jhutchins, you think these errors may not be displayed if I deactivate the monitor (xrandr) before I unplug it?
• 3287[22:46:49] <awwal> before plug/unplug it ^
• 3288[22:46:51] <cluelessperson> Does anyone know of any tools to stress the cpu to a certain percentage of utilization constantly?
• 3289[22:46:57] <cluelessperson> like stress ? but
• 3290[22:47:03] <cluelessperson> stress --all-cpus 50%
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• 3293[22:48:43] <digdilem> cluelessperson stress -n 2
• 3294[22:48:48] <digdilem> change 2 to half the number of cores
• 3295[22:49:02] <digdilem> hang on, is it -n? the one for cpu, anyway
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• 3298[22:49:42] <digdilem> stress -c 2
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• 3300[22:50:16] <cluelessperson> digdilem, great, is there a way to do that at 50% ?
• 3301[22:50:27] <digdilem> yes, change 2 to half the number of cores
• 3302[22:50:37] <digdilem> each N that -c uses will max out one core
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• 3305[22:50:45] <cluelessperson> digdilem, that runs two cores at 50%, not 4 cores at 50%
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• 3308[22:51:23] <digdilem> does it? i haven't checked, made an assumption
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• 3311[22:51:58] <digdilem> i've just hammered a test machine at 10 hogs for cpu, ram and io this evening, for half an hour trying to break it
• 3312[22:52:06] <digdilem> why do you only want to stress to 50%?
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• 3328[22:56:47] <awwal> Also, if I boot with the extra monitor plugged lightdm is loaded but I get black screen when in login screen. I added display-setup-script=xrandr --output LVDS1 --primary but no luck. wdm works fine
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• 3331[22:57:04] <awwal> that happens in both jessie and sid machines
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• 3338[22:58:45] <awwal> but xrandr only affects X , so I think the change I made in lightdm config is unnecessary (?)
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• 3343[22:59:48] <awwal> what is wrong with lightdm not showing up when booting with an extra monitor?
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• 3346[23:00:17] <awwal> wdm & sddm have no issues at all
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• 3367[23:11:49] <julius_> hi
• 3368[23:11:51] <awwal> Xfce handles perfectly dual monitoring; all (panels, apps in use ...) in the primary monitor and in the extra monitor it only shows the application window I dragged there. But I wasn't able to achive that with other WM's (openbox, fvwm, fluxbox, awesome). What xfce does exactly and how it achives that perfectly?
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• 3370[23:12:33] <julius_> what does update-grub need to create a entry in grub.cfg if i installed a system to a partition? somehow update-grub is not adding my second debian to grub.cfg, it was installed with debootstrap
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• 3372[23:14:05] <awwal> primary monitor (ldvs1) is 1366x768 and the extra (vga1) is 1280x1024, but xfce uses the maximum resolution for both monitors. wondering so how xfce does that so good without resolution problems...
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• 3379[23:16:50] <awwal> but that "perfection" is only achieved if the position of the second monitor (vga) is at the right of the LCD laptop (ldvs1)
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• 3382[23:17:31] <hexnewbie> awwal: Everything should be able to do that without any issue. In particular, console xrandr and KDE do.
• 3383[23:17:42] <TomTomTosch> julius_: did you follow the docs? replaced-url
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• 3386[23:18:18] <TomTomTosch> julius_: hinting at fstab and kernel install in particular.
• 3387[23:18:22] <julius_> TomTomTosch, yes...i just realized what i was
• 3388[23:18:25] <hexnewbie> awwal: Considered changing the DM? :)
• 3389[23:18:34] <julius_> no linux-image-amd64 on that system
• 3390[23:18:55] <TomTomTosch> it might be a good idea to read that article and see if you missed something.
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• 3396[23:20:32] <awwal> hexnuebie, no doubt that kde can achive that but I dont use it. And I'm not really familiar with xrandr; sure it can do that too but will have to lear about it's advanced functions. Change DM? DE you meant :P No, right now. Xfce does all what I need :P
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• 3399[23:20:41] <awwal> hexnewbie
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• 3403[23:21:54] <TomTomTosch> What's wrong with just using a different DM?
• 3404[23:21:55] <julius_> TomTomTosch, yes im doing that
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• 3409[23:23:13] <hexnewbie> awwal: Technically, my monitors are screwed in the DM, because i never bothered to configure them (they are OK in KDM after I logout though). But I never even cared how the DM looks.
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• 3412[23:24:45] <awwal> hexnewbie, the pronlem with lightdm DM is that it doesn't show up if I boot with the extra monitor, I get black screen instead of the lightdm login screen
• 3413[23:24:46] <TomTomTosch> maybe it has problems parsing your command. tried pushing it into a script and calling that script from display-setup-script= ?
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• 3416[23:25:32] <julius_> TomTomTosch, one question though: now that i got locales installed and configured, why do i still get check your local settings if i exit and chroot into the system again?
• 3417[23:25:54] <hexnewbie> awwal: Which is why I suggested trying/using a different DM (even knowing that mine, KDM, isn't completely all right--due to my negligence)
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• 3423[23:27:33] <awwal> julius, have you tried to run update-grub in both systems? it may help. I had similar issue having dual boot jessie /sid (normal install , no deboostrap stuff, and updating grub in both systems solved my issue
• 3424[23:27:59] <awwal> hexnewbie, yes, right now I use 'wdm' and all fine. lightdm disabled
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• 3439[23:31:23] <TomTomTosch> julius_: not sure. possibly running locale-gen en_US.UTF-8 (or whatever locale you want) and dpkg-reconfigure locales might help.
• 3440[23:31:30] <sl4v3> i'm supposed to move the dummy.php file to the document root. don't i also have to have my eclipse project configured as the document root in apache?
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• 3444[23:32:16] <awwal> I have debian amd64 VM in my i386 system. How can I install the virtualbox-guest-additions-iso amd64 for my debian amd64 guest being my host i386?
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• 3447[23:32:51] <Brigo> awwal, from internet?
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• 3449[23:33:10] <awwal> Brigo, from deb repos
• 3450[23:33:39] <TomTomTosch> julius_: cat /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED gives a list of supported locales
• 3451[23:33:45] <Brigo> them adm64 VM shoul point to the right repos.
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• 3453[23:34:47] <Brigo> should*
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• 3457[23:35:55] <awwal> Brigo, the 'virtualbox-guest-additions-iso' pkg is made for install in the host and somehow it's seen by the guest
• 3458[23:36:34] <Brigo> awwal, yes as a DVD or CD image
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• 3462[23:38:11] <Brigo> awwal, the apt-file show virtualbox-guest-additions-iso hast all the guest versions adittions.
• 3463[23:38:41] <awwal> Brigo, probably I haven't understand how things work but what I did is install 'virtualbox-guest-additions-iso' in my i386 host, and then start my debian amd guest, open a terminal and as root execute ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run and the guest additions get installed in the guest
• 3464[23:39:15] <awwal> Brigo, oh, so I can just install the required guest additions in the guest ?
• 3465[23:39:17] <Brigo> awwal, didnt' kown that :)
• 3466[23:39:24] <awwal> no need to install them in the host?
• 3467[23:39:41] <Brigo> awwal, i think you can do what you want :)
• 3468[23:40:19] <awwal> Brigo, Ok, let me try, if installing them directly in the guest does the job, so great
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• 3470[23:41:49] <Brigo> awwal, that package install just an iso file, you have to still install it.
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• 3474[23:42:15] <awwal> Brigo, ok, going to install the pkg now
• 3475[23:42:44] <awwal> I guess I'll have to run ./VBoxLinuxAdditions too
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• 3482[23:45:25] <jmcnaught> awwal: did you try using the virtualbox-guest-utils on the guest? this would need the linux-headers-? for your arch to be installed, but it would compile the guest addons using DKMS
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• 3485[23:49:05] <awwal> jmcnaught, I only wanted to have fullscreen for the guest, so I installed the 'virtualbox-guest-additions-iso' in the host following some information googling and know the guest can be fullscreen. After that I installed virtualbox-guest-utils but I dont really what the feature exactly
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• 3487[23:49:41] <awwal> I dont really know what they feature exactly ^
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• 3490[23:50:42] <awwal> inthe web I found that people say guest-additions is the required pkg for have the guest in fullscreen mode
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• 3492[23:51:19] <awwal> fullscreen mode I mean the guest use the maximum monitor resolution available
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