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2[00:01:58] <sevak> when I started yoshimi after qjack, but
now yoshimi isn't starting
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46[00:20:48] <MaurizioB> sevak: try to stop jack from qjackctl,
be sure that yoshimi is not still running (check it out with ps
aux), then restart jack and yoshimi
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57[00:25:22] <hnv> I have just put an 8GB RAM bar into my
thinkpad but `free -m' reports only 3753 of total Mem. Why is
that the case?
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61[00:26:40] <sevak> how do I check with ps aux? I don't
see yoshimi listed
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64[00:27:16] <hnv> sevak: does `ps aux | grep yoshimi'
give any output?
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67[00:28:57] <sevak> yes
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69[00:29:20] <bin_bash> hnv: uname -a
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72[00:29:53] <hnv> bin_bash: it tells nothing about memory
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73[00:30:12] <bin_bash> hnv: i never said it did
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74[00:30:16] <bin_bash> i asked what the output was
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75[00:30:29] <bin_bash> it will probably tell you if youre
using a 32bit or 64 bit OS
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76[00:30:31] <hnv> Linux hostname 4.9.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
4.9.18-1 (2017-03-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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77[00:30:35] <bin_bash> ok
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78[00:30:44] <hnv> 64bit
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79[00:30:49] <bin_bash> so it /should/ read the 8gb
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81[00:31:14] <ForceRecon> petn-randall: Excuse me sir.. I was
informed earlier that the ability to try out debian cinnamon is not
possible but you need to commit. I am not questioning what was
stated but just curious if you had seen something somewhere in your
searches
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82[00:31:24] <hnv> it's a thinkpad with a first generation
i5 cpu. Might it be the case that it can't detect that much
memory?
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83[00:31:33] <hnv> bin_bash: ^^
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84[00:31:57] <MaurizioB> sevak: and that output is?
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86[00:32:04] <hnv> the computer is from 2010
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87[00:32:25] <sevak> sevak 1527 0.0 0.1 12728 2176 pts/1 S+
18:32 0:00 grep yoshimi
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88[00:32:44] <sevak> oh ok so that's grep right?
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89[00:33:21] <bin_bash> hnv: thats unlikely. i was able to put
an 8gb stick into my i3 ideapad
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90[00:33:26] <bin_bash> but it is possible
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97[00:35:53] <sevak> got an error when I try to start jack with
qjackctl
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99[00:35:59] <petn-randall> hnv: 'cat /proc/meminfo'
is more reliable.
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118[00:43:38] <hnv> according to
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119[00:44:10] <ForceRecon> what do I download from here to
ensure cinnamon, just the desktop iso?
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124[00:47:17] <somiaj> ForceRecon: if you are installing debian
with a good network connection, just juse the netinstall image and
let it download the cinnimon de, you can pick this during the
install
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136[00:51:12] <stevenaleach> #sudoroom
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146[00:55:09] <sevak> ok so I have qjackctl with jack started
yoshimi running and connected to system under connection, and the
meter is going up but no audio heard
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152[00:59:31] <Al3xG0> i need one command cat line not have word
"localhost"
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153[00:59:40] <Al3xG0> i need one command cat line in filetext
not have word "localhost"
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155[01:00:43] <fnlkj> remote apt-get update and
"needrestart" (i think..) stopped during install (?)
requesting to restart some services, but then the connection broke
and when i get back on and apt-get .. . it says
"..locked"; how do I un-lock or fix it however please?
thanks
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156[01:01:38] <fnlkj> E: Could not get lock
/var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporaily
unavailable)
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158[01:02:04] <mel00010> are you sure that no other apt or dpkg
process is running?
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159[01:02:25] <mel00010> Because if the program crashed, then it
would not remove the lock file
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161[01:02:28] <fnlkj> uh nop, it prolly is.. any way I could
hook back onto where it left off when I lost connection..?
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162[01:02:30] <fnlkj> hm
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163[01:03:05] <mel00010> run ps -aux | grep apt-get
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165[01:03:55] <fnlkj>
replaced-url
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167[01:05:49] <fnlkj> ..id "killall .." or "kill
-9 .." em , or something, but afraid I'd make a big mess
after a reboot then.. happened similar things before, heh heh..
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168[01:06:34] <mel00010> if its still running, then just leave
it
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169[01:06:50] <mel00010> it will probably finish on its own
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170[01:07:06] <fnlkj> o...hmh..k.. i guess it could be, no idea.
hmh! Thanks!
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172[01:08:41] <fnlkj> buttt.....it did (temporarily) stop, as it
has done in the past, during the install (?) and asked me if/which
services to re-start. In the terminal a graphical window (blue
background .. ) came up and I was about to click enter to tell it
Okay
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175[01:09:02] <fnlkj> ..I guess it may be waiting for that
response stilll, never to come as I disconnected right before being
able to send
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209[01:22:57] <mib8> hi
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211[01:23:10] <gry> Hi mib8. :)
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212[01:23:41] <mib8> hi gry, how are you?
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214[01:24:16] <mib8> does anyone know how I can generate
Xorg.conf?
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216[01:25:03] <fnlkj> touch Xorg.conf usually works
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217[01:25:13] <gry> I am good, thanks. I recall there is no need
to generate it recently as Xorg picks up a lot of defaults.
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220[01:26:01] <mib8> fnlkj: no need for Xorg -configure and
stuff?
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225[01:26:47] <gry> No.
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228[01:27:47] <sevak> any suggestions for what do with jack
audio
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236[01:29:26] <ForceRecon> did the live cd debian cinnamon ...
no go.. wireless not found and there are two on that laptop. This
will be a good learning Live Distro...
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242[01:31:59] <sevak> gry: yes I've got it running and
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262[01:43:30] <dpkg> 1) add yourself to the 'audio'
group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/
alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if
available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4)
speakers on? 5) does "aplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any
installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also
<list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
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315[02:23:54] <io_elephant> can someone explain something to me?
i just installed debian on as a virtualbox guest, then went and
mounted virtualbox guest additions. afterwards i went to the folder
to run their install script (through ./script.sh), which had execute
and read permissions for everyone/group/owner, but got a permission
error. when i ran the script through "bash script.sh" it
ran fine. what the difference here?
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353[02:47:34] <alercah> Hi, my computer is syncing timezones
wrong. It's somehow syncing the local time but thinking
it's UTC
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354[02:47:40] <alercah> I'm in UTC-4, so my clock is
actually in UTC-8
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355[02:48:22] <alercah>
replaced-url
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356[02:48:26] <alercah> anyone know how to fix?
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385[03:06:27] <p3rror> Hello
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386[03:06:40] <p3rror> is it possible to rewrite arpwatch on
bash
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418[03:24:21] <un214> all right, so what am I supposed to do to
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433[03:37:42] <Unline> has anyone here got these books ? sed and
awk 101 hacks - bash 101 hacks ?
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450[03:46:47] <ee> Hey guys. I have a very strange problem I
never had before, and it just popped up from nowhere after
re-installation of Debian. My Internet is slow as fuck and I believe
this has something to do with the transfer speed between Internet
and modem. It says 10mb/s, shouldn't that be 1000mb/s?
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452[03:47:18] <bazhang> ee no cursing here please
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453[03:47:58] <alercah> ee: Depends on the connection
you're paying for with your ISP. There are places where 10 is
common
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456[03:49:17] <ee> alercah: My ISP delivers much higher than
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458[03:49:37] <ee> alercah: My contract with them is much higher
than that*
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459[03:50:44] <ee> Besides, the transfer speed between modem and
computer should be 1000mb/s nomatter what my ISP deliver, or am I
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461[03:50:59] <alercah> ee: you said between Internet and modem
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462[03:51:12] <alercah> between computer and modem is usually
either 100 or 1000 depending on the hardware involved
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463[03:51:17] <alercah> assuming wired
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464[03:51:29] <ee> alercah: Sorry for that, I didn't mean
what I said :)
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465[03:51:44] <ee> Right, wired. so 10mb/s means something is
wrong./
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466[03:51:55] <alercah> first guess is bad cable
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468[03:52:12] <alercah> spent hours diagnosing network problems
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473[03:53:24] <ee> uh, never had problem with that before..
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474[03:53:24] <un214> anyway I faced down this problem years
ago, I ended up ordering the network card out of auto-detect and
manually set the port speed
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476[03:54:21] <ee> Could be right un214, I did install this time
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503[04:10:35] <blastwave> so suddenly .. for no real reason,
audio stopping working on my little machine. I give up trying to
diagnose and just want to move onwards. So .. how do I set my very
stable debian 8 machine to move onwards to stretch ?
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510[04:13:59] <LiuYan> blastwave: you can edit
/etc/apt/sources.list, and replace 'jessie' to
'stretch', then `apt update && apt upgrade`
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513[04:16:22] <blastwave> LiuYan: trying the instructions at
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514[04:17:43] <LiuYan> blastwave: nice, very detail instruction.
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518[04:18:42] <blastwave> LiuYan: I shall let you know if it
works
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519[04:19:11] <sevak> \window page_down
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520[04:19:13] <sevak> \window page_down
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523[04:20:23] <sevak> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav is
not working for me. Trying to get jack audio in order.
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524[04:20:25] <blastwave> woo hoo 997 upgraded, 178 newly
installed, 0 to remove and 234 not upgraded.
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525[04:20:41] <LiuYan> blastwave: Thanks! About the audio
problem, I almost encounted this problem annually when weather got
high humidity, because my sound card is not integrated on
motherboard, it's a PCI sound card.
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526[04:20:57] <sevak> is that a sign that I need to unmute
something?
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528[04:21:02] <un214> sevak: possible you have the same problem
I did: pulseaudio not starting on login
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530[04:21:19] <un214> also yeah, run alsamixer as root and fix
your audio settings its muted on upgrade again
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531[04:21:30] <blastwave> LiuYan: I am just tired of the battle
with pulese audio and alsa
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533[04:21:49] <blastwave> I feel caught in the middle and wonder
which works
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535[04:22:25] <blastwave> however having said this I live my
days with big servers that have no sound other than fans
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537[04:22:44] <sevak> I ran alsamixer and card and chip is
listed as pulseaudio, and doesn't seem to be muted
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539[04:23:25] * blastwave runs apt upgrade to be followed by apt
full-upgrade
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540[04:24:00] <blastwave> question unrelated .. anyone found the
answer to
replaced-url
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544[04:26:42] * blastwave thinks he needs to step up again in a big
way
replaced-url
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545[04:26:50] <koollman> blastwave: yes
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547[04:27:15] <koollman> blastwave: read the source of the first
index :)
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548[04:27:51] <blastwave> koollman: I sort of did ..but was in a
rush
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552[04:28:09] <blastwave> right now I think gnu needs my energy
and time
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553[04:28:13] <koollman> blastwave: do it again, then. took me
all of 3 minutes to find it
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554[04:28:33] <blastwave> koollman: help me here .. source of ?
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555[04:28:33] <un214> what's with that pi guy
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556[04:28:55] <blastwave> un214: some old gnu guiy .. ignore him
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558[04:29:25] <koollman> blastwave: of the first index of the
website. / , if you prefer
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559[04:29:46] <blastwave> koollman: one sec
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560[04:30:24] <blastwave> okay .. script ad client etc .. and ?
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562[04:30:51] <blastwave> index314159.html ?!
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563[04:30:52] <blastwave> yes
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564[04:31:15] <blastwave> nice :-)
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565[04:31:24] <blastwave> win all around
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566[04:31:41] <blastwave> so let;s take care of GNU
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570[04:32:46] <blastwave> anyone have a love hate relationship
with UNIX ?
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573[04:33:28] <koollman> not really. more like nostalgia
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581[04:36:06] <UNIX> unix is here
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583[04:36:50] <koollman> probably not right here
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585[04:36:58] <koollman> maybe in #*bsd :)
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587[04:37:40] <un214> the power and flame and spirit of unix is
here
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589[04:38:18] <blastwave> well .. tired hgere ...should move on
.. however Ian worked on a UNIX projuect to move it along
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594[04:40:50] <koollman> un214: I remember reading the art of
unix programing, and the tao of unix programming, and ... no.
it's not here anymore
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595[04:41:04] <blastwave> ( scottish accet } it was an act of
kinfness
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596[04:41:29] <AlexLikeRock> unix its buy by SUSE
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597[04:41:37] <AlexLikeRock> :-D
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598[04:41:39] <blastwave> koollman: too many gnuisms
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599[04:41:49] <koollman> blastwave: and not enough unix
simplicity
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600[04:41:56] <AlexLikeRock> GNU ! GNU !! GNU !!!
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601[04:41:58] <koollman> and modularity...
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602[04:42:03] <blastwave> well we tried
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603[04:42:10] <un214> I have regained it
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604[04:42:40] <blastwave> Iam was flaberghyasted by politicl
problems where I was left with tech problems
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607[04:43:29] <un214> I can by a glueball of scripts do what the
overweight stuff does
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608[04:43:42] <blastwave> so ayways .. FSF needs a wee donation
:
replaced-url
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609[04:44:07] <koollman>
replaced-url
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610[04:44:22] <blastwave> Law of Least
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611[04:44:26] <blastwave> Astonishment !
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my usual FSF supports soon
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705[05:31:31] <looper> i want to know how to configure port
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706[05:31:38] <gry> what port?
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707[05:31:45] <looper> local port
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708[05:31:54] <looper> in computer
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709[05:32:32] <gry> your computer has a usb port
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710[05:32:41] <looper> yes
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711[05:32:44] <gry> do you want to configure your usb port?
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712[05:33:12] <looper> not tha port incoming port for internet
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713[05:33:45] <gry> browser talks to websites over port 80
(http) and 443 (https)
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714[05:34:21] <looper> ok
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715[05:34:31] <gry> what do you want to do?
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716[05:34:45] <uxfi> hi gr
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717[05:34:47] <uxfi> hi gry
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718[05:35:01] <gry> hi uxfi, can I help you?
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719[05:35:18] <looper> i need to learn how to hack android
phones and facebook
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723[05:36:59] <looper> gry r u there
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724[05:37:05] <gry> looper: you can hack things which you run
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725[05:37:18] <gry> looper: you can do that to your android, but
not to facebook
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726[05:37:25] <looper> ok
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727[05:37:45] <gry> looper: does your android use debian?
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728[05:37:54] <looper> no
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729[05:38:03] <gry> how can I help you, then?
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730[05:38:08] <looper> ok
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731[05:38:29] <looper> but how android makes daebian
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732[05:38:49] <looper> android use daebian
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733[05:38:52] <gry> there are android apps which include debian
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734[05:39:08] <at0m> gry: i've long given up on this one
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735[05:39:26] <gry> looper: they run debian within android. like
a virtual machine
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736[05:39:33] <gry> looper: what is your native language?
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739[05:39:36] <gry> at0m: ok
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740[05:39:42] <looper> malayalam
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741[05:39:52] <gry> malaysia?
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742[05:39:58] <uxfi> no gry
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743[05:40:05] <uxfi> Malyayam is a South Indian language
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744[05:40:11] <looper> ya
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746[05:40:47] <gry> looper: ok. see
replaced-url
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748[05:40:55] <gry> looper: it is Debian India
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797[06:20:14] <Vagabondy> Hello. How come on linux display seems
a little fuzzier as though there is a slightly lower refresh rate or
something?
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798[06:20:26] <buu> perception
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799[06:20:44] <Vagabondy> for a long time i've been trying
to figure out what's hurting my eyes and i've finally
pinpointed it: it's some weird fuzziness
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800[06:20:49] <Vagabondy> nah.. it's not just perception.
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801[06:20:55] <themill> different font is most likely,
differently configured sub-pixel rendering is also possible
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802[06:20:59] <gry> click a button on the monitor to calibrate
it
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804[06:21:36] <Vagabondy> no, got nothing to do with the font. I
actually noticed it on dosbox window and compared it to
Windows' version
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805[06:21:41] <Vagabondy> same size, same settings
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807[06:21:54] <Vagabondy> on windows it's crisp and clear
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808[06:22:08] <Vagabondy> on linux... fuzzy and i can't
bear staring at one spot for a long time either.
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809[06:22:10] <themill> a dosbox window still uses a font
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810[06:22:18] <Vagabondy> doh...
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811[06:22:30] <Vagabondy> it's the same font, c'mon..
it's not smoothed or anything
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812[06:22:43] <themill> which font is it then?
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814[06:23:43] <hanasaki> anyone have results on how well ryzen
is working with linux? driver support
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815[06:23:43] <Vagabondy> microsoft system font which is
rendered by dosbox and perceived technically as plain graphics
outside dosbox shell, meaning it got nothing to do with font
rendering as such
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816[06:23:44] <hanasaki> ?
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818[06:24:10] <Vagabondy> it means, the PIXELS are fuzzy, not
fonts
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821[06:24:40] <themill> Vagabondy: is the monitor running in its
correct resolution?
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822[06:24:45] <Vagabondy> yes
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823[06:24:49] <Vagabondy> 1920x1080
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826[06:24:56] <Vagabondy> it's always been correct
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828[06:25:11] <themill> screenshot?
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830[06:25:54] <Vagabondy> can't make one now, i'm on
windows.. but you probably know that in cases like that screenshots
are likely to show better results
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833[06:26:15] <themill> I don't believe the "pixels
are fuzzy" thing.
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834[06:26:29] <Vagabondy> nobody says they are per se
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837[06:26:55] <themill> you just did...
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838[06:27:14] <themill> It's awfully hard to help with
imprecise descriptions and no images to compare.
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839[06:27:47] <Vagabondy> i'm pretty sure the images would
look identical
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840[06:27:49] <Vagabondy> but ok, fine
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841[06:27:59] <Vagabondy> let's just say.. i'm making
things up ;)
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842[06:28:13] <themill> Well if the images look identical, that
is a useful piece of information.
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844[06:29:39] <Vagabondy> I'll do it later. But suppose
they are identical, then what?
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846[06:30:22] <themill> we're back to subpixel rendering
configuration and checking if the resolution really is right
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851[06:31:05] <themill> It might be worth making an actual image
to test this out with rather than rendered text too.
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857[06:36:47] <kion> is usin apt better than apt-get?
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858[06:36:51] <kion> using
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861[06:37:53] <sptnx> apt is more bloated
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862[06:38:13] <themill> umm... no.
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864[06:38:43] <themill> kion: it has slightly different options
that are better for upgrades but otherwise it is just less typing
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874[06:44:38] <kion> themill, thanks
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892[06:51:19] <awal1> aptitude/apt-get/apt changelog pkgname ok;
what about news?
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1049[08:19:52] <SagelessFox> on debian 8 is there anyway to make
gnome terminal transparent?
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1051[08:21:33] <ebol4_> SagelessFox yes, it's somewhere in
the settings in the terminal window
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1053[08:21:40] <ebol4_> can't remember exactly as I'm
not in gnome
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1056[08:22:28] <SagelessFox> ebol4_ but the problem is I cannot
find it anyway. On ubuntu I can find it easily though.
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1060[08:22:51] <FreddyP> SagelessFox: do you hve Gnome 3
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1061[08:22:51] <SagelessFox> the transparent function works
properly on suse, arch also
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1062[08:22:56] <SagelessFox> yes
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1069[08:24:26] <abff> SagelessFox on xfce I have to enable the
compositor before I can set windows to be transparent
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1070[08:24:39] <abff> Maybe your gnome3 does something similar?
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1074[08:26:12] <abff>
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1080[08:30:18] <SagelessFox> ah thanks for the link abff. but it
is for the global scale..not just gnome terminal though
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1081[08:31:53] <abff> ah okay then in that case use this
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1084[08:32:05] <abff> it does the same thing but you can set it
to only make the terminal transparrent
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1085[08:32:17] <abff> "simple mode"
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1088[08:33:44] <FreddyP> appartantely the transparent terminal
option was removed by the gnome developers
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1093[08:35:18] <alprazolam> Another masterstroke
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1096[08:35:59] <abff> Isn't terminator a fork of the old
gnome shell vt?
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1103[08:36:22] <abff> I'd just use terminator, hell I use it
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1110[08:37:08] <alprazolam> Terminator is good
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1112[08:37:26] <alprazolam> You can also split windows in it if
you dont know how to use screen or tmux
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python
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1117[08:38:36] <SagelessFox> ah..abff ty for the link..checking
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1118[08:38:44] <abff> SagelessFox just use terminator
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1119[08:38:49] <SagelessFox> FreddyP why do they remove it?
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1120[08:38:50] <abff> that extension bs seems bloaty
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1122[08:39:05] <abff> sudo apt install terminator
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1123[08:39:06] <abff> :)
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removed
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1128[08:39:24] <FreddyP> i dont know why
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1135[08:42:03] <SagelessFox> okay
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1136[08:42:03] <SagelessFox> ..ty for the info
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1137[08:42:03] <SagelessFox> abff I will install it
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1334[09:48:30] <brittb0ss> soooooo I've never really used
IRC before. Is it still a thing?
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1337[09:49:27] <jolt> brittb0ss: Yes.
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1361[09:56:12] <Iridos> jolt, no!
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1362[09:57:00] <jolt> Iridos: Apperantly not for brittb0ss
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1363[09:57:22] <Iridos> well… he/she/it left the moment
you answered… it was like "ok. found out. mission
accomplished"
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1406[10:22:28] <dionysus69> wow nfs is so much faster than smb
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1407[10:22:48] <dionysus69> smb peak was 35mb/s while nfs hits 60
and stays over 50
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1412[10:25:44] <jolt> dionysus69: I think that I read something
about NFS being stateless while SMB is stateful, so it also depends
on what and how you transfer. I just does more stuff. Also
encryption overhead (depending on which NFS/SMB protocol is used).
But yeah, hooray for saturating links! :D
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1442[10:39:54] <bodqhrohro> Is there a direct analog of `rpm
-qal` for dpkg/apt? The first idea is to make `dpkg -L` for all
installed packages in a loop but I'm afraid this will take much
more time and generate much more duplicates than direct listing of
files controlled by apt if there is one.
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1444[10:41:37] <petn-randall> bodqhrohro: What does 'rpm
-qal' do? Note that we're all Debian users in here. :)
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1453[10:45:10] <bodqhrohro> petn-randall: it lists every file
from every package controlled by rpm. I need such a list to compare
with a whole list of files in / and find the files not known to the
package manager
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1469[10:48:36] <petn-randall> bodqhrohro: And why are you doing
that?
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1470[10:48:45] * petn-randall senses a XY problem.
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1473[10:50:07] <dionysus69> system just hung up
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1474[10:50:34] <bodqhrohro> petn-randall: I have some
self-written scripts in /usr/bin:/usr/sbin and want to backup them
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1476[10:50:48] <dionysus69> I had to press ctrl + alt + backspace
to reset gnome, how do Ifind this event in dmesg?
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1477[10:51:11] <petn-randall> bodqhrohro: You can install
'dlocate' and just run 'dlocate /path/to/file'
on them. If it returns nothing, it's not shipped by any
package.
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1479[10:52:26] <jolt> dionysus69: I don't think that dmesg
is the place where that is logged. Try looking in /var/log and see
if there is a x.something file in there
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1483[10:53:14] <dionysus69> theres no x file at all :S
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1484[10:54:05] <petn-randall> jolt: I don't remember either
of them having encryption ...
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1486[10:54:54] <dionysus69>
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1488[10:54:59] <jolt> dionysus69: Then you probably have to do
"ls -lart" and see which files are recently modified, and
then look through those files for log. Try with messages/syslog
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1489[10:55:05] <dionysus69> maybe this? its in dmesg
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1494[10:57:11] <dionysus69> maybe this line ? Apr 25 12:37:12
debgen remmina.desktop[15601]: PatBlt: unknown rop: 0x00FA0089
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1495[10:57:32] <dionysus69> there are over thousand lines like
that in /var/log/messages
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1496[10:57:49] <dionysus69> in the same timeframe as the lag
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1499[10:58:40] <jolt> dionysus69: definitely looks like something
happened with your graphics driver at that time. But I don't
use that stuff so I cant assist.
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1507[11:00:30] <dionysus69> :)
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1508[11:00:36] <dionysus69> thanks anyways! x)
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1514[11:05:10] <noesc> Hi, I've upgraded from jessie to
testing (and now sid) and have started to experience screen
flickering/artifacts. It would make sense if this was related to
powersaving modes since it almost completely disappear when I do
something actively (typing, mousemovements etc.). Some forums &
guides recommends to try and disable rc6, this didn't help at
all. Any suggestions how to continue? (Intel HD5500 with i915
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1515[11:05:12] <noesc> driver)
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1520[11:08:14] <snapdata> I'm completely stumped. Trying to
setup a wifi repeater:
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1522[11:08:28] <jelly> noesc: if you're on sid, ask in
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1523[11:08:31] <jelly> !debian-next
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1524[11:08:31] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1526[11:09:18] <jelly> noesc: it might also be worth your while
to ask in #xorg or #intel-gfx here on freenode
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1528[11:09:37] <noesc> jelly - I only upgraded to SID because the
problem started with TESTING =)
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1530[11:10:03] <noesc> I'll start with #intel-gfx thanks!
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1557[11:19:09] <petn-randall> TIL some people think upgrading to
sid is the solution, not the source of their problems. :P
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1563[11:24:35] <Brigo> hi, i am trying to install oracle java
with make-jpkg, and i get this error when installing with dpkg:
paste.debian.net/929215/
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1564[11:24:57] <Brigo> how can i work arount it?
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1565[11:25:28] <Brigo> i am wondering if it is a dpkg bug.
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1618[11:54:05] <g0zzy> My Calendar is now broken since
Icedove->Thunderbird. Options to configure it are greyed out
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1625[11:59:31] <janisozaur> hi, any volunteers to help with deb
packaging for OpenRCT2?
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1627[11:59:41] <Epakai> Brigo: dpkg won't install
dependencies. i think you can just run apt-get -f afterwards to fix
broken dependencies
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1629[12:00:36] <petn-randall> janisozaur: You might want to ask
in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net for tips how to package it.
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1630[12:00:59] <Brigo> Epakai, that's not the problem, i
already tryed it.
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1632[12:01:15] <janisozaur> petn-randall: roger that
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1634[12:01:35] <Brigo> Epakai, i have that package installed and
in a newer version as you can see in debian policy.
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1635[12:01:37] <janisozaur> petn-randall: "Invite only
channel"
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1637[12:01:56] <petn-randall> janisozaur: Are you sure you tried
connecting on the right IRC network?
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1638[12:02:06] <petn-randall> janisozaur: It's not on
freenode.
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1639[12:02:31] <janisozaur> where is it?
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1641[12:02:47] <petn-randall> janisozaur: As I said,
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1642[12:02:59] <janisozaur> ah, didn't register. thanks.
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1654[12:08:30] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
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1664[12:12:05] <g0zzy> My Calendar is now broken since
Icedove->Thunderbird. Options to configure it are greyed out
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1666[12:13:51] <Epakai> Brigo: i tried to make the oracle package
using java-package's make-jpkg and the result was a depend on
libc6 (>=2.7). really unsure why your package depends on a :i386
arch version of libc6-amd64
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1669[12:14:41] <Brigo> Epakai, what version do you download?
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1670[12:14:59] <Epakai> 8u131
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1671[12:15:17] <Brigo> Epakai, the full name of the archive
please so i can compare with mine.
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1685[12:23:45] <Epakai>
replaced-url
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1691[12:26:43] <Brigo> Epakai, i downloaded
jre-8u121-linux-x64.tar.gz, yours are newer, but is linux64 as mine.
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1695[12:31:48] <Epakai> Brigo: oh i see, if you run make-jpkg and
have libc6-amd64 installed then it will depend on it. now i get the
same error
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1698[12:33:22] <Brigo> Epakai, i can remove it. Let's try
it! :)
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1699[12:33:31] <Epakai> maybe that's worth filing a bug
against java-package
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1700[12:34:00] <Brigo> Epakai, yes.
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1714[12:39:38] <Epakai> i don't think dpkg it considers
libc6-amd64 as a dependency candidate since it is from a different
arch
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1723[12:46:46] <kalipso> hey guys im having trouble with dnsmasq.
i have a lxc container as router with two interfaces eth0 (connected
to external network 10.2.2.0/24) and eth1 (connected to internal
network 10.0.0.0/24). to be connected with the outside i need a
default route via 10.2.2.1 dev eth0, but with that route dhcp server
is not working. but as soon as i change default route to 10.2.2.1
dev eth1 dhcp works fine, but then iam
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1724[12:46:48] <kalipso> not connected to the internet... help
please
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1726[12:47:28] <kalipso> sorry: "as soon as i change default
route to 10.0.0.1 dev eth1"
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1731[12:49:51] <tw> your router is getting its address and routes
by dhcp? That sounds like all kinds of bad ideas.
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1732[12:50:08] <tw> on both interfaces or just eth1?
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1734[12:50:41] <tw> or are you serving dhcp?
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1735[12:50:59] <kalipso> on eth0 it gets addres by dhcp, on eth1
i have a static ip of 10.0.0.1 and serve dhcp
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1737[12:51:20] <kalipso> dnsmasq interface=eth1
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1740[12:53:19] <tw> what does the dnsmasq log say?
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1747[12:56:39] <kalipso> depending on the default route i set.
when i route via eth0 dhcp log says nothing. tcpdump shows that dhcp
request are incoming but they dont get handled, when route to eth1
dhcp log is as it should be, giving netmask,broadcast dns ect
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1753[12:58:37] <kalipso> i have another container doing the excat
same think and it works.. only difference is my iptables rules...
but i have an extra roule "-A INPUT -i eth1 -p udp -m udp
--sport 67:68 --dport 67:68 -j ACCEPT"
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1754[12:58:47] <kalipso> rule*
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1757[12:59:12] <kalipso> i realy dont get it, trying it since
yesterday morning
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1759[12:59:41] <tw> and if you add that rule to this lxc
container, do you get a working dnsmasq?
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1761[13:00:51] <kalipso> mmh ure right i should try that, brb
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1786[13:08:24] <Enrico_Menotti> Hello. Need help with module
handling. I need to tell the kernel to load two modules right after
boot (the rootfs is mounted correctly, but afterwards the system
reboots due to a couple of modules missing). I found info here:
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1787[13:08:25] <Enrico_Menotti> boot time or later.
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1803[13:13:19] <corner_cubicle> Enrico_Menotti : add your modules
to your initrd
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1807[13:13:52] <thyriaen> Does anyone else have problems with
Geary ( the e-mail client ? ) i am experiencing crashes, bugs in
resizing the window and generally some wonky bugs concerning the
gui, like maximising does not really work ( when i maximize the
window it just gets shrinked into one small band across the monitor
( could have been connected to multi-monitor setup ? )
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1812[13:15:00] <Enrico_Menotti> corner_cubicle There is no
initrd. Anyway, never mind, I found
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1815[13:15:33] <pragomer_1> any idea how I can get ark in dolphin
in german ?
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1834[13:28:10] <pragomer_1> which packet will I have to install
if I want a graphical password input while booting in luks?
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1844[13:35:16] <Akuw> I have one Powershell file, can I run it on
linux?
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1851[13:39:23] <jelly> Akuw: there's no powershell binary
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1876[13:48:21] <petn-randall> Enrico_Menotti: Is this on Debian
jessie?
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1884[13:51:13] <Enrico_Menotti> petn-randall Yes, but I was
trying not to use systemd. But nevermind. I will build the two
modules into the kernel.
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1892[13:54:37] <petn-randall> Enrico_Menotti: How is the
initramfs related to systemd?
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1896[13:56:06] <Enrico_Menotti> I don't use the initramfs. I
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1897[13:56:24] <petn-randall> Enrico_Menotti: Adding it to
/etc/modules should be enough, then.
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1904[13:58:27] <Enrico_Menotti> Seems not to work. I'm
asking on #devuan and seems there is kmod which should care about
loading modules listed in /etc/modules. Somehow, that does not
happen.
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1915[14:03:48] <petn-randall> Enrico_Menotti: Are you running
Devuan?
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1916[14:04:26] <Enrico_Menotti> Both Debian and Devuan. Debian
runs fine; I'm trying to set up Devuan.
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1938[14:14:46] <Pavilion> test
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1946[14:21:23] <hid3> Hello. ANyone using openvpn on Debian 9? It
doesn't seem to start corectly and pick up my config file.
systemd unit file contains /bin/true in ExecStart and ExecReload
directives. Is this something supposed to be or am I missing
something?
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1949[14:22:16] <ashka> hid3: you need to use
openvpn@your-config-file-name-here probably
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1951[14:22:54] <hid3> alright. But why has it changed?
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1963[14:26:24] <ashka> hid3: for consistency I believe, in the
past you had to edit /etc/default/openvpn to choose which VPNs to
start with init.d, so the only lost feature is "all" (aka
init.d starts all VPNs). Check the 'openvpn@' unit file if
you want to see the internals
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1970[14:28:58] <hid3> got it.
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1988[14:37:05] <BluesKaj> hid3, I copied the server.ovpn files to
/etc/openvpn and the .crt and .pem files as well . then I use the
console to connect to the vpnserver,..and the commands are aliased
in ~/.bash_aliases file. Not using network-manager in this setup
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1990[14:37:38] <hid3> ashka: does /etc/default/openvpn config is
still being parsed? I added some options to OPTARGS variable but
seems they are ignored...
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1994[14:39:07] <petn-randall> Enrico_Menotti: Then I guess you
have to ask in the Devuan channel. We don't support derivatives
in here. And since it works fine in Debian but not in Devuan ...
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1995[14:40:06] <Enrico_Menotti> petn-randall Yes, I am discussing
there, thank you. I've been wrong in asking here. Sorry.
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2001[14:43:16] <ashka> hid3: I'm not sure, if
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2012[14:50:20] <jolt> hid3: read in the /etc/default/openvpn
file, if you are using systemd, then you need to do systemctl
daemon-reload
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2045[15:07:10] <hid3> Why did Debian start using freebsd-style
network interface names? it used to be eth0-ethX, now I have eno0,
eno1, ens1f0, ens1f1
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2050[15:08:38] <zykotick9> hid3: s/Debian/linux/
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2051[15:08:38] <BluesKaj> that's systemd nomenclature hid3
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2053[15:09:28] <jolt> hid3:
replaced-url
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2059[15:11:21] <Brigo> Epakai, it worked! :)
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2060[15:11:36] <Brigo> Epakai, sorry for the delay.
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2061[15:12:16] <hid3> alright. Not sure what "problems"
it resolved, never had any. And even if I had (interfaces renamed
after reboot of HW change), I could add a persistent network rule
and bing a device by pciid or MAC address to interface name
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2062[15:12:21] <tw> jolt: thanks for that link, I was wondering
about the algorithm.
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2063[15:13:17] <hid3> now the question is how do I rename ens1f0
to ens1f1 and the existing ens1f1 to ens1f2 (to match manufacturers
markings on the phycical NICs which are "1" and
"2" and not 0 and 1) ?
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2064[15:13:39] <tw> hid3: in RHEL6, it was really easy to get
into a condition where reboots would flip between the two interface
ports if the system couldn't write a MAC to the persistent name
log.
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2067[15:14:03] <tw> It's not just there, but that's the
most easy example for me to point out.
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2068[15:14:16] <hid3> well, debian is not rhel. That's the
main reason debian is my preference
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2070[15:14:37] <hid3> any possibility to rename the interfaces?
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2072[15:14:45] <tw> hid3: I believe you can edit the udev device
rules to set the name.
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2075[15:14:56] <hid3> seems there aren't any
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2076[15:15:04] <hid3> (at least at the old location)
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2086[15:16:21] <tw> hid3: maybe
replaced-url
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2088[15:16:46] <jolt> hid3: maybe search for "rename
interface linux systemd udev" or so
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2089[15:17:15] <teraflops> hid3: may I ask why do you want the
old naming scheme?
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2091[15:17:50] <hid3> there's nothing there, I've
already checked it:
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2092[15:17:50] <hid3> root@test-deb:/etc/systemd/network# ls
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2093[15:17:51] <hid3> root@test-deb:/etc/systemd/network#
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2094[15:18:34] <hid3> teraflops: I do not want the OLD scheme, I
want to rename interface numbers. I have ens1f0 and ens1f1. I need
to rename them to ens1f1 and ens1f2
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2096[15:18:52] <teraflops> hid3: why?
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2098[15:19:33] <hid3> that way it would match what's printed
on the hardware (1), secondly, in the system I have two more
interfaces which are eno1 and eno2. There's no eno0. So why the
hell there should be ens1f0??
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2100[15:19:58] <teraflops> hid3: huh
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2105[15:20:49] <hid3> I really liked eth0-ethX naming. eth0
interface was always facing "the internet" on my systems.
Pretty obvious, clear and makes sense. Now these random names make
systems not unified
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2106[15:20:53] <ForceRecon> how does anyone feel about Qubes OS
with Whonix
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2107[15:21:05] <teraflops> hid3: sorry I just joined so maybe
I'm missing context. what does match what's printed on the
hardware mean?
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2109[15:22:26] <aypea[3]> hid3: if you're going to rename,
go all the way. don't get in the way of the automated scheme.
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2110[15:22:47] <ForceRecon> seems like qubes would be very
resource intensive
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2111[15:22:53] <hid3> teraflops: My server has got 4 ethernet
ports. Two intergrated, and an add-on dual head card. Integrated
ports have "1" and "2" numbers near the RJ45
connections to distinguish which is which. In system they appear as
eno1 and eno2. eno1 matches the "1" and eno2 matches the
"2". Good! But... ens1f0 does NTO match the "1"
stamped on the add-on nic.
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2112[15:22:58] <hid3> hope you understand
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2116[15:23:45] <hid3> what I need to do is the following: ens1f1
-> ens1f2, then ens1f0 -> ens1f1. That would be perfect to me!
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2117[15:23:46] <teraflops> hid3: so you want to rename the
interfaces because the stickers on the rj45 ports?
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2118[15:23:55] <teraflops> ಠ_à²
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2120[15:24:05] <hid3> teraflops: not the stickers but factory
stamping in metal. yes.
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2125[15:26:52] <teraflops> hid3: ok then, label printers are fine
too (just saying)
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2127[15:27:53] <tehcha> my wifi wont work, I added a
network={ssid="blah" psk="mybirthday"} to my
wpa_suplicant conf
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2128[15:27:58] <tehcha> but to no avail
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2133[15:28:44] <hid3> teraflops: so the new schema is "so
perfect" that it's impossible to rename the provided
interfaces based by pciid, mac address or other criteria? No thanks
but I want the old methods then...
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2137[15:29:12] <brenlae> does anyone know how to get allegro 5
working with g++ on stretch?
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2138[15:29:13] <hid3> I don't like any labels on servers, on
cables or anywhere else. I like factory/OEM look and style,
everywhere
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2140[15:29:28] <teraflops> hid3: lol. go rename then to whatever
floats your goat
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2144[15:30:15] <hid3> problem is that I can't find _any_
information on where to start renaming them
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2158[15:35:55] <teraflops> hid3:
replaced-url
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2188[15:47:10] <hid3> excellent, renamed them by pciid. Thanks a
lot
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2196[15:49:42] <brenlae> anybody know why when i installed
liballegro5-dev it didn't put the libraries in /usr/lib?
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2197[15:49:49] <brenlae> i installed it via synaptic
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2200[15:51:44] <brenlae> hmm
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2201[15:51:47] <brenlae> well i'll be back
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2203[15:51:49] <EmleyMoor> brenlae: Can you explain where it did
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2258[16:07:56] <zbrah> hello, i've installed apparmor and i
see no /var/log/audit* but it's installed... apparmor sends by
default logs to /var/log/messages (but _not always_)
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2263[16:10:15] <sine0> if someone trasnfers a domain over to me
will the dns settings/mx record be disturbed ?
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2264[16:10:36] <zbrah> what do you mean?
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2271[16:12:23] <teraflops> sine0: A/AAAA records for sure if they
point to different ip addresses
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2294[16:18:02] <edgar> 1.) Does debian have qt5?
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2297[16:18:26] <edgar> 2.) does debian still use libav?
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2301[16:19:37] <mmoreno80> hi there! anyone knows where to get a
deb package to install emacs 25.2 in debian?
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2302[16:19:39] <zbrah> edgar: search for qt5 at
packages.debian.org
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2303[16:19:40] <jelly> edgar: 1) yes and 2) yes for the current
release, most apps have been built with ffmpeg's libs for
stretch I think
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2304[16:19:56] <edgar> so what you're saying is use stretch?
:V
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2306[16:20:08] <zbrah> use stable
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2311[16:21:06] <jelly> edgar: no, I have no idea what your goal
is
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2312[16:21:18] <zbrah> hello, i've installed apparmor and i
see no /var/log/audit* but it's installed... apparmor sends by
default logs to /var/log/messages (but _not always_)
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2318[16:22:14] <edgar> I recall trying to use OBS and it failing
to compile on stable because of libav
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2319[16:22:22] <edgar> which was very frustrating :P
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2321[16:22:36] <edgar> jelly: ^
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2322[16:22:59] <edgar> they use ffmpeg for OBS last I checked
lemme see if they still do
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2324[16:23:23] <jelly> what is OBS?
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2328[16:23:37] <jelly> ,v libavformat-dev
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2329[16:23:38] <judd> Package: libavformat-dev on amd64 --
wheezy: 6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.20-0+deb7u1;
wheezy-backports: 6:10.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie-security:
6:11.8-1~deb8u1; jessie: 6:11.8-1~deb8u1; jessie-backports:
7:3.2.4-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:3.2.4-1; sid: 7:3.2.4-1;
wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.9-dmo1;
sid-multimedia: 10:3.3-dmo2
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2330[16:23:39] <edgar> open broadcaster software (or was it
system?)
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2331[16:23:50] <edgar> It's for streaming :P
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2332[16:23:56] <jelly> there's ffmpeg in jessie-backports.
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2333[16:24:26] <sine0> teraflops: zbrah: Im working witha company
that wants to get their domain access from the origional web guy.
they are quite busy here and i dont want their mail disturbed during
the process.
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2336[16:24:51] <zbrah> sine0: do you use on your production
server grsec and/or apparmor?
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2340[16:25:41] <jhutchins_wk> sine0: Simply transferring domain
registration has no effect on DNS records.
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2345[16:26:15] <sine0> zbrah: why ?
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2347[16:26:52] <sine0> um never mind.
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2349[16:27:10] <zbrah> sine0: just asking, apparmor here
doesn't want to open up a file to php has permissions... and
apparmor rules are probably correct
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2351[16:27:39] <sine0> havent a clue mate
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2352[16:27:46] <jelly> zbrah: where did you get decent apparmor
policies for debian
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2355[16:27:58] <zbrah> I wrote myself my own profile
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2356[16:28:04] <jelly> ha
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2363[16:28:59] * mmoreno80 found emacs version 25.1 on unstable/testing
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2364[16:29:11] <zbrah> jelly: any suggestions?
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2366[16:29:29] <jelly> if I had any I'd voice them
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2368[16:30:54] <jhutchins_wk> How are Debian admins dealing with
the EOL of PHP5?
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2374[16:32:48] <zbrah> jhutchins_wk: what do you mean.
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2376[16:33:25] <nkuttler> jhutchins_wk: have the devs upgrade to
a supported php release?
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2387[16:35:59] <jhutchins_wk> Official support for 5.6 ended in
January
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2391[16:37:32] <zbrah> Could it be linked
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2392[16:37:33] <zbrah> PHP message: PHP Fatal error: require():
Failed opening required '/var/replaced-url
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2393[16:37:36] <zbrah> /replaced-url
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2397[16:37:58] <zbrah> to "deny owner /**/*.php
mrwlkx," ?
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2421[16:48:37] <acresearch> people what is the difference between
chmod 775 FILENAME and chmod a+x FILENAME?
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2425[16:49:19] <petn-randall> acresearch: Did you check the
wonderful man page yet?
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2426[16:49:30] <acresearch> no :-(
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2432[16:50:13] <petn-randall> acresearch: That's the first
place I'd look. It's got an explanation for all
parameters. → man chmod
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2434[16:50:25] <mmoreno80> acresearch: a+x adds execution to
everybody; 775 sets permissions to 775 (which includes execution,
although).
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2436[16:50:34] <jelly> acresearch: the former sets all the
permission bits to a specific value (some enabled, some disable),
the latter just makes sure all the execution bits get enabled
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2437[16:50:37] <jelly> !permissions
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2438[16:50:38] <dpkg> For information on permissions, read
«info coreutils 'File Permissions'»,
replaced-url
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2443[16:51:52] <zbrah> Prestashop is the worst...
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2457[16:56:49] <Fuj1M4s> ç
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2458[16:57:00] <ays> Is there a way I can send virtual keyboard
signals to the computer? for example, make it so that the programs
think that a key was pressed when it really wasn't?
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2459[16:58:03] <petn-randall> ays: What problem are you trying to
solve?
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2462[16:58:59] <ays> What i want is, when i press the ctrl key, a
series of characters need to be sent to stdin for all programs.
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2467[16:59:48] <petn-randall> ays: So all programs do what with
this input?
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2468[17:00:03] <somiaj> ays: there are fake/virtual events, not
all programs accept them, I would try to redefine what it is you
want to happen.
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2471[17:00:29] * petn-randall is guessing clusterssh is the answer to
the /actual/ question.
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2472[17:00:34] <somiaj> also unsure if you can send these to
multiple programs at once, or only the focused program.
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2478[17:02:16] <ays> somiaj petn-randall let me give u an
example. When I press the CTRL+j key while using firefox and the
address-bar is in focus, the string "hello" should appear
in it...as if I have just typed it.
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2480[17:02:20] <zbrah> prestashop is terrible
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2481[17:02:23] <zbrah> 2017/04/25 14:56:06 [error] 5333#0: *30
FastCGI sent in stderr: "PHP message: PHP Fatal error: Uncaught
exception
'Symfony\Component\Filesystem\Exception\IOException' with
message 'Cannot rename "/var/replaced-url
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2482[17:02:26] <zbrah> "/var/replaced-url
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2483[17:02:28] <zbrah> system/Filesystem.php:279
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2484[17:02:30] <zbrah> 2017/04/25 14:59:17 [error] 5333#0: *33
FastCGI sent in stderr: "PHP message: PHP Fatal error: Uncaught
exception
'Symfony\Component\Filesystem\Exception\IOException' with
message 'Failed to remove file "/var/replaced-url
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2485[17:02:32] <zbrah> unlink(/var/replaced-url
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2489[17:03:10] <somiaj> zbrah: use a pastebin to paste
output/errors.
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2492[17:03:21] <zbrah> somiaj: yeah but it's so idiotic
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2493[17:03:29] <zbrah> somiaj: renaming a file then deleting it
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2494[17:04:05] <petn-randall> ays: You can use quicksearch
bookmarks for that. Which is why "examples" aren't
good for solving your actual issues.
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2495[17:04:18] <somiaj> Still no need to spam the channel, also I
don't see prestashop in debian, is this some third party php
software?
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2497[17:04:38] <zbrah> somiaj: yeah
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2519[17:10:03] <Stochastic> If I don't connect a display
first, lightdm/xorg fails starting
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2523[17:10:35] <Stochastic> Err, I'm talking about a
different pc
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2526[17:11:07] <Stochastic> I can ssh into it, but vnc fails (if
I don't do the workaround described)
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2532[17:13:36] <Stochastic> I have nvidia-340xx drivers
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2535[17:14:39] <ays> petn-randall, I've perhaps thought of a
way to do this. I'll use uinput to create a virtual keyboard,
then read the key-events from the actual keyboard, and when a
certain key is pressed, the virtual keyboard will spew out a bunch
of key-combinations that i want.
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2536[17:14:44] <acresearch> people, i have a python binary
compiled and it is -r-x------ it executes normally if i run it
python3 FILENAME.pyc but will not run ./FILENAME.pyc ---> why?
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2550[17:18:14] <Stochastic> Fixed it. Nevermind.
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2563[17:23:41] <jhutchins_wk> Stochastic: How did you fix it?
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2564[17:24:11] <Stochastic> jhutchins_wk: nvidia-xconfig
--allow-empty-initial-configuration
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2565[17:24:27] <Stochastic> jhutchins_wk: but it adds a lot of
crap, so you need to select only what you need from it
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2594[17:33:55] <jhutchins_wk> Stochastic: That's what I was
thinking, you need to set it so it doesn't try to scan for
capabilities.
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2609[17:37:11] <Posterdati> hi
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2611[17:37:47] <Posterdati> please I need a cloud server
application for linux! Possibly within debian ecosystem :) thanks!
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2618[17:39:08] <petn-randall> Posterdati: Care to be a *little*
more specific? "cloud" is a vague marketing term that can
mean anything from virtualiziation to synchronization to web
frameworks to data storage.
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2621[17:40:00] <Posterdati> petn-randall: yes, I need to store
text files and distribute them among certain number of mobile/pc
devices
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2622[17:40:14] <petn-randall> Posterdati: So a website?
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2625[17:40:18] <Posterdati> like in drobox
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2627[17:40:20] <Posterdati> like in dropbox
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2633[17:41:11] <Posterdati> petn-randall: the clients should
receive data not by their request, but using an app
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2640[17:42:37] <petn-randall> Posterdati: So you're looking
for file synchronization?
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2641[17:42:40] <Posterdati> petn-randall: a website could be, but
data should be sent when ready
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2642[17:42:46] <Posterdati> petn-randall: yes
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2643[17:42:56] <petn-randall> Posterdati: What do you mean with
"when ready"?
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2647[17:43:27] <Posterdati> petn-randall: it means that they come
from measuring devices
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2648[17:43:56] <petn-randall> Posterdati: Measuring devices?
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2649[17:44:02] <Posterdati> petn-randall: which collect data and
send them to the server when available...
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2650[17:44:26] <petn-randall> Posterdati: That doesn't sound
like file synchronization, but actual logging.
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2651[17:45:24] <Posterdati> petn-randall: readings are inside a
file
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2654[17:46:19] <petn-randall> Posterdati: And where do these
sensors come from? And would do they pick up?
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2656[17:46:55] <Posterdati> petn-randall: they are connected to
some machines
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2660[17:48:25] <Posterdati> petn-randall: a linux machine
collects sensor readings and send them to a concentrator
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2661[17:48:55] <petn-randall> Posterdati: Care to be more
specific?
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2663[17:49:04] <rbo> f
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2671[17:49:32] <jhutchins_wk> Posterdati: So what are you looking
for from us?
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2674[17:50:11] <Posterdati> jhutchins_wk: nothing... Only if
there's something similar to dropbox on debian
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2677[17:50:51] <petn-randall> Posterdati: From your description
dropbox wouldn't be a suitable tool to aggregate the data.
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2681[17:51:08] <Posterdati> petn-randall: but it is not free
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2685[17:52:02] <Posterdati> petn-randall: now I'm sharing
those files with it
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2686[17:52:49] <ebol> Posterdati: you might want to write your
own solution using rsync
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2687[17:53:02] <rohit_> guys I understand that these packages are
obsolete, but I need libgnutls26 for debian 8 Jessie for some client
software to run. How can I make it work? there are few other
packages as well, like libtasn1-3, libgcrypt11 that I need
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2689[17:53:04] <ebol> or use a network share
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2692[17:53:30] <ebol> rohit_: what happens when you try to
install it?
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2693[17:53:57] <Posterdati> ebol: rsync... uhm ok
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2694[17:54:41] <petn-randall> Posterdati: owncloud, nextcloud,
syncthing? I still don't see the connection, though.
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2697[17:55:03] <rohit_> @ebol I tried to find the packages using
apt-file, when I try to install I get the error saying either these
packages are obsolete or maybe present in other source
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2699[17:55:09] <quique> how do I add an input source for a
keyboard that is missing in region and language?
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2705[17:55:43] <rohit_> I tried manually downloading and
installing them, but I get into viscous cycle of depeendency
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2708[17:56:07] <greycat> !don't break debian
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2709[17:56:07] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, dont break
debian is
replaced-url
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2711[17:56:22] <petn-randall> rohit_: The answer is you
don't. You recompile the application to use newer, supported
libraries.
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2745[18:08:17] <Posterdati> thanks people
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needed that lib?
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2762[18:15:50] <rohit_> qemu
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2765[18:17:03] <rohit_> @jhutchins_wk qemu-system-i386 for xen
4.4.0
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2768[18:17:15] <petn-randall> ...
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2769[18:17:25] <petn-randall> rohit_: Why don't you use qemu
provided by Debian?
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2773[18:17:54] <rohit_> @petn-randall well its a custom qemu
provided by client
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2774[18:18:21] <jhutchins_wk> rohit_: Client needs to provide a
current version.
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2775[18:18:26] <jhutchins_wk> ,v qemu
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2776[18:18:27] <judd> Package: qemu on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.1.2+dfsg-6a+deb7u12; wheezy-security: 1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u20;
wheezy-backports: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u5a~bpo70+1; jessie-security:
1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6; jessie: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6;
jessie-backports: 1:2.8+dfsg-3~bpo8+1; sid: 1:2.8+dfsg-4+b1;
stretch: 1:2.8+dfsg-4+b1
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2779[18:18:54] <rohit_> @jhutchins_wk yeah that seems to be only
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2780[18:19:01] <rohit_> Thanks a lot for your help
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Passwd?
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2958[19:30:00] <greycat> One way is installing cifs-utils and
using mount.cifs to mount it on a local directory.
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manager that can handel this. Though I suggest greycat's
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3008[19:52:12] <brenlae> anybody know why installing
liballegro5-dev (and dependencies) doesn't install to /usr/lib
on stretch?
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3009[19:52:37] <brenlae> it doesn't work properly with g++
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3093[20:27:41] <LZZ> It seems lika qt apps (Konsole, Kate,
Dolphin) are not working with the "US International with dead
keys" dead keys. It's like the ' dead key is being
ignored. I'm using Debian testing.
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3096[20:27:58] <LZZ> It works just fine here in Hexchat and in
Firefox...
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3114[20:36:12] <jhutchins_wk> ,v samba-client
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3115[20:36:13] <judd> No package named 'samba-client'
was found in amd64.
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3116[20:36:50] <jhutchins_wk> Tom01: smbclient can log in with an
ftp-like interface.
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3120[20:39:31] <jhutchins_wk> ,v smbclient
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3121[20:39:32] <judd> Package: smbclient on amd64 -- wheezy:
2:3.6.6-6+deb7u7; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u12;
wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie:
2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u5;
jessie-proposed-updates: 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u5; sid:
2:4.5.8+dfsg-1; stretch: 2:4.5.8+dfsg-1
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3124[20:40:53] <edgar> 1 question does testing have plasma 5?
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3125[20:41:05] <edgar> i mean like the entire DE not just qt5 or
some piecees of it
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3130[20:42:01] <greycat> Someone should teach dpkg what plasma
means so we know how to answer such questions.
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3131[20:42:21] <greycat> I think it's got something to do
with KDE. And that's about where my knowledge ends.
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3134[20:42:43] <edgar> plasma is the new KDE goes by now rather
than KDE
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3135[20:42:57] <edgar> new name
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3136[20:43:02] <greycat> So how would we determine the answer to
your question?
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3137[20:43:13] <edgar> *Shrugs*
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3146[20:44:40] <edgar>
replaced-url
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3147[20:44:43] <edgar> found it
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3149[20:44:54] <greycat> ,v plasma-desktop
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3150[20:44:55] <judd> Package: plasma-desktop on amd64 -- wheezy:
4:4.8.4-6; jessie: 4:4.11.13-2; sid: 4:5.8.6-1; stretch: 4:5.8.6-1
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3164[20:49:50] <Tom01> jhutchins_wk: Is it possible with Files?
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3174[20:52:56] <jhutchins_wk> Tom01: What about files?
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3176[20:53:19] <greycat> I'm guessing capitalized
"Files" is some GUI program he is using.
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3178[20:54:17] <Tom01> jhutchins_wk: Mounting a smb-share from a
Debian 8 computer to a Debian 8 virtual machine.
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3180[20:54:52] <greycat> If it's Debian to Debian you should
consider using NFS instead of Samba.
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3182[20:55:04] <jhutchins_wk> Tom01: that would be what greycat
suggested, using cifs-utils to mount the drive.
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3185[20:55:21] <jhutchins_wk> Tom01: ftp is an obsolete
text-based file transfer program.
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3186[20:55:54] <jhutchins_wk> Tom01: You can list, get, and put
files, and smbclient has some similar features.
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3189[20:56:12] <Tom01> I want to simply use files.
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3190[20:56:21] <edgar> now one more thing, when stretch is
released as stable in god knows how long, will testing convert to
stable or will it upgrade to the next testing version?
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3191[20:56:24] <abff> You can mount an ftp URL as a directory
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3192[20:56:28] <abff> sftp as well
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3193[20:56:32] <greycat> "use" meaning what? open them
in text editors? execute them?
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3194[20:56:38] <abff> then you can read and write files on remote
hosts with your own binaries
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3195[20:56:47] <Tom01> opening the smb-share in files.
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3196[20:56:57] <greycat> WTF is "files" you keep
referring to?
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3197[20:57:14] <Tom01> the files file browser
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3198[20:57:25] <greycat> So, "some GUI program he is
using"
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3199[20:57:39] <greycat> You want to mount the remote directory
as a local directory. Since it's Debian to Debian, use NFS.
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3200[20:57:51] <abff> ^
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3201[20:57:54] <greycat> There is no reason to use Samba for
this, and that makes it HARDER. Samba exists only to talk to those
funny Windows machines.
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3203[20:58:02] <Tom01> I want to mount an smb-share.
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3204[20:58:02] <abff> smb is pooooooop
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3205[20:58:03] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: Remember many de's
don't identify the actual program, they just say
"browser" or "files".
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3206[20:58:22] <jhutchins_wk> Tom01: We've told you how
about four times now.
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3208[20:58:23] * abff notes to self
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3209[20:58:37] <Tom01> I have told 4 times, too.
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3211[20:58:48] <abff> Tom01 what's your reasoning for using
smb?
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3212[20:59:13] <Tom01> Because I use from other Operating-Systems
also.
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3214[20:59:22] <greycat> You can export the same directory using
BOTH samba and NFS, one for Windows clients, and the other for
Unix/Linux clients.
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3218[21:00:04] <abff> samba is deprecated. The only thing
I've ever had to use a smb share for is my wii.
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3219[21:00:15] <abff> Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux all support
NFS
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3220[21:00:18] <abff> us NFS
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3222[21:00:54] <greycat> I do not live in a universe where
"Windows supports NFS" is close enough to truth to do
anything but cause guffaws of laughter.
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3223[21:00:58] <jhutchins_wk> abff: What makes you think samba is
deprecated? There's more to SMB networking than file sharing.
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3225[21:01:02] <greycat> Or maybe tears.
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3227[21:01:39] <greycat> Maybe abff is from the 22nd century and
has forgotten to adjust his statements to match local temporal
reality.
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3228[21:01:57] <abff>
replaced-url
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3229[21:02:20] <greycat> A web page on microsoft.com is going to
erase all of the Windows XP and Windows 7 machines that are
currently in use?
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3230[21:02:21] <abff> jhutchins_wk I didn't know that, my
bad
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3233[21:02:56] <greycat> We just got rid of *MOST* of our Windows
XP machines here *last year*. Not all. Most. Our new Desktop
Standard is Windows 7 32-bit.
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3234[21:03:09] <abff> jhutchins_wk what does it do other than
file sharing?
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3235[21:03:30] <somiaj> samba can be a full active domain
controler
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3236[21:03:42] <somiaj> I think that is the windows lingo
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3237[21:04:00] <huwjr> hia
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3238[21:04:06] <jhutchins_wk> somiaj: Yes, primary domain
controller.
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3239[21:04:23] <huwjr> how would I install a driver that i need
in order to boot?
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3241[21:04:31] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: There is an MS NFS client,
there are definite questions about how well it works.
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3242[21:04:37] <jhutchins_wk> If at all.
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3243[21:04:39] <somiaj> huwjr: care to give more details, what
are you booting? What driver do you need.
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3245[21:05:12] <greycat> jhutchins_wk: Do I have it on my 32-bit
Win7 machine? Do the however-many-thousand other 32-bit Win7
machines we have here have it?
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3248[21:05:37] <huwjr> long story short, disks detect for the
install but are not bootable without installing a package (mpt3sas)
first,
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3249[21:06:21] <somiaj> where does the mpt3sas package come from,
not seeing it in jessie.
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3250[21:06:31] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: I believe it's
available, but not part of the standard install except for Server
2012/2016 and maybe W10Pro.
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3253[21:07:10] <abff> ,v mpt3sas
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3254[21:07:11] <judd> No package named 'mpt3sas' was
found in amd64.
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3256[21:08:01] <huwjr> i’ve been provided it by the vendor
of my crappy raid controller
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3257[21:08:20] <huwjr> similar to:
replaced-url
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3258[21:08:37] <somiaj> well it appears that
CONFIG_SCSI_MPT3SAS=m in the 3.16 linux kernel on jessie
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3260[21:08:55] <somiaj> huwjr: are you trying to install wheezy?
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3261[21:09:02] <huwjr> no, jessie
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3262[21:09:16] <jhutchins_wk> ,kernels
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3263[21:09:17] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.10.0-rc6-686-pae (4.10~rc6-1~exp2); sid: 4.9.0-2-686
(4.9.18-1); stretch: 4.9.0-2-686 (4.9.18-1); jessie-backports:
4.9.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.9.18-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.86-1)
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3264[21:09:22] <huwjr> like i say, they detect and install, but
are not bootable
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3267[21:09:45] <somiaj> huwjr: clarify not bootable, using efi or
legacy? How far through the boot do you get.
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3268[21:09:57] <huwjr> not detected by efi or legacy.
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3270[21:10:15] <huwjr> as in i’ve spent 12+ hours on this
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3272[21:10:24] <somiaj> so it seems the issue is with grub? i.e.
grub is not even loading?
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3285[21:14:27] <huwjr> not sure
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3286[21:15:01] <somiaj> if grub isn't even loading, I would
think the issue is not with the raid controler in the linux kernel,
but with how tye system sees boot info.
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3287[21:15:22] <somiaj> I would expect the issue with the raid
controler driver to be grub loads, but when you select to boot the
os, it fails.
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3289[21:15:41] <huwjr> i can’t see the bootable drive(s) at
all
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3291[21:15:52] <somiaj> from where? Inside the firmare/bios?
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3292[21:16:04] <huwjr> boot options
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3294[21:16:22] <huwjr> they’re not in the EFI devices
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3295[21:16:29] <huwjr> they’re only on the install, and the
raid utility
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3296[21:16:29] <somiaj> the driver you are talking about for the
linux kernel won't help that, if the firmware can't see
the bootable drives this is something else.
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3299[21:17:10] <somiaj> so though I don't know how to fix
your problem, it doesn't sound like the issue is you need to
install mpt3sas inside the install, you need to get your bios to see
the boot info.
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3300[21:17:16] <somiaj> s/bios/firmware/
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