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          73 [00:29:38] <n-iCe> hi  
         
        
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          77 [00:32:13] <pscx2userpv> Hello all. I'm trying to find
            pcsx2 but I can't find it (tried apt-get install pcsx2; apt
            search pcsx2 doesn't give any result)
           
         
        
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          82 [00:36:14] <max3> can someone help me with sendmail - why am
            i not receiving this email
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          83 [00:36:30] <max3> bob.alice@gmail.com is my obfuscated actual
            email address
           
         
        
          84 [00:36:36] <max3> and for example echo "Subject:
            test" | /usr/lib/sendmail -v bob.alice@gmail.com Example does
            work
           
         
        
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          86 [00:37:19] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world.
           
         
        
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          88 [00:38:32] <Klaus_Dieter> I created an apt repository and an
            InRelease file that is signed. gpg -d confirms that the signature is
            intact but on a client PC having included that depot apt complains
            about invalid signature. W: GPG-Fehler:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          89 [00:38:38] <Klaus_Dieter> repository: ...
           
         
        
          90 [00:38:41] <Klaus_Dieter> ...
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          101 [00:43:39] <a___> how do I install debian without uefi?
           
         
        
          102 [00:43:47] <c-c> just normally?  
         
        
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          104 [00:44:08] <a___> it adds a uefi partition by default, I
            tried deleting it but then grub installation fails
           
         
        
          105 [00:44:36] <pscx2userpv> ello all. I'm trying to find
            pcsx2 but I can't find it (tried apt-get install pcsx2; apt
            search pcsx2 doesn't give any result)
           
         
        
          106 [00:45:06] <c-c> a___: did you disable from BIOS? Yes thats
            right.
           
         
        
          107 [00:45:33] <a___> c-c: not sure how to disable from bios, is
            that the only way to do it?
           
         
        
          108 [00:45:46] <a___> c-c: ubuntu installs on my machine without
            uefi by default
           
         
        
          109 [00:46:14] <c-c> a___: I think you can google some now, I gtg
           
         
        
          110 [00:46:49] <mtn> a___: if efi is on in the settings, it must
            be installed with efi partition
           
         
        
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          112 [00:47:02] <mtn> a___: if efi is off, then you install grub
            to the mbr
           
         
        
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          114 [00:47:58] <mtn> a___: I would recommend you do some research
            on this topic. your motherboard manual could be helpful, too
           
         
        
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          119 [00:48:39] <a___> mtn: I'm migrating from ubuntu. all
            the problems I talked about didn't occur in ubuntu, and ubuntu
            doesn't have a separate 'ubuntu' entry in BIOS so I
            assumed it doesn't use UEFI, and that UEFI is the cause of my
            problems with debian, and that solving it requires installing debian
            without UEFI..
           
         
        
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          121 [00:49:11] <mtn> a___: nope. debian will work either way, you
            just have to it correctly
           
         
        
          122 [00:49:58] <a___> not sure what the ubuntu install was doing
            that debian isn't
           
         
        
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          124 [00:50:11] <mtn> a___:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          125 [00:50:28] <a___> thanks  
         
        
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          138 [00:58:45] <amz3> I'd like to study aptitude algorithm
            that resolve dependencies, where can i find the vcs repository?
           
         
        
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          144 [01:01:31] <ksft> When I run `optirun glxgears`, the window
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          151 [01:03:54] <Klaus_Dieter> amz3: apt-get src aptitude fetches
            the source.
           
         
        
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          158 [01:06:16] <jrtc27> Klaus_Dieter: amz3: or "debcheckout
            aptitude" (you'll need to install devscripts)
           
         
        
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          161 [01:06:51] <amz3> tx  
         
        
          162 [01:08:25] <Klaus_Dieter> so what can I do about this signing
            issue of the apt repository?
           
         
        
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          178 [01:15:46] <jrtc27> Klaus_Dieter: does apt-key think the key
            is present?
           
         
        
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          180 [01:17:28] <Klaus_Dieter> jrtc27: yes it does
           
         
        
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          182 [01:17:55] <Klaus_Dieter> jrtc27:
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          184 [01:18:07] <Klaus_Dieter> the bottom one
           
         
        
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          187 [01:19:29] <jrtc27> what hash algorithm is used to sign the
            file?
           
         
        
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          190 [01:20:00] <jrtc27> gpg --list-packets on InRelease should
            tell you
           
         
        
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          192 [01:20:36] <Klaus_Dieter> I am not sure:
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          196 [01:21:25] <Klaus_Dieter> the repository and the signing is
            done by aptly
           
         
        
          197 [01:21:41] <jrtc27> oh even easier, InRelease itself says
            Hash: SHA1 right at the top
           
         
        
          198 [01:21:46] <jrtc27> you need to use something stronger than
            SHA1
           
         
        
          199 [01:22:16] <Klaus_Dieter> ah so that is it.
           
         
        
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          214 [01:25:00] <Klaus_Dieter> this explains why this is only
            happening with 8.7 and not with 8.0
           
         
        
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          222 [01:27:46] <Klaus_Dieter> unfortunaly aptly is required in a
            newer version than 0.8.3 so I will have to use the version from
            testing
           
         
        
          223 [01:27:52] <Klaus_Dieter> this will be fun... :/
           
         
        
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          228 [01:28:53] <jrtc27> can you modify gpg.conf?
           
         
        
          229 [01:28:59] <jrtc27> I don't know if aptly picks that up
           
         
        
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          231 [01:29:52] <Klaus_Dieter> it may be  
         
        
          232 [01:29:57] <Klaus_Dieter> from the manpage it is signing with
            gpg
           
         
        
          233 [01:30:09] <Klaus_Dieter> but it is unclear whether it is the
            program or the general mechanism used
           
         
        
          234 [01:30:18] <dtcrshr> hello eveyrone. I cloned a debian
            machine which has LVM on its disk. On the destination machine i
            cannot boot with an error that the vg was not found. Booting on a
            live machine I edited the fstab so the blkid from the root partition
            was correct, I got grub back but still the system boots to initramfs
           
         
        
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          239 [01:30:54] <dtcrshr> is there any other ways to repair the
            destination machine so it boots correctly? I can see all the vgs,
            lvs, pvs on the live machine
           
         
        
          240 [01:31:01] <Klaus_Dieter> jrtc27: I can edit gpg.conf what
            should I place to check whether aptly uses that?
           
         
        
          241 [01:32:02] <Klaus_Dieter> ah, should be --digest-algo SHA256
           
         
        
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          243 [01:32:28] <jrtc27> either digest-algo SHA256 or
            personal-digest-algo
           
         
        
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          245 [01:32:51] <jrtc27> or SHA512 (I assume all versions of apt
            support that)
           
         
        
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          247 [01:33:34] <Klaus_Dieter> jrtc27: aptly picks up whatever is
            in gpg.conf
           
         
        
          248 [01:33:41] <Klaus_Dieter> I now have a sha 256 signed
            inRelease
           
         
        
          249 [01:33:45] <jrtc27> \o/  
         
        
          250 [01:34:06] <Klaus_Dieter> and the warning is gone on the
            system where I want to install its packages
           
         
        
          251 [01:34:18] <Klaus_Dieter> thank you very much I hardly would
            have come up with that myself! :)
           
         
        
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          254 [01:37:39] <amcorreia> anyone have installed kubernetes in
            debian using APT?
           
         
        
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          256 [01:38:21] <c-c> amcorreia: its not in Jessie
           
         
        
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          258 [01:38:42] <kingkong-> hi. on "history" output, i
            can see a command on 3259. line. how can i run it or copy in short
            way by recall from history?
           
         
        
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          261 [01:39:09] <c-c> kingkong-: !command  
         
        
          262 [01:39:29] <c-c> (reruns the last match for
            'command')
           
         
        
          263 [01:39:34] <amcorreia> c-c, the only repository i've
            found (apt.kubernetes.io) don't have even for wheezy
           
         
        
          264 [01:39:40] <Klaus_Dieter> the error message is pretty
            horrible though as the signature is actually valid but not trusted
            due to the weak hash
           
         
        
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          266 [01:41:10] <borsin> kingkong-: ctrl + r, then type part of
            the beginning of line 3259
           
         
        
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          268 [01:43:20] <kingkong-> !command  
         
        
          269 [01:43:42] <c-c> be careful with that
           
         
        
          270 [01:43:43] <kingkong-> c-c: but i dont need the last match.
           
         
        
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          273 [01:44:16] <kingkong-> borsin: it shows another command used
            later. can i jump another match ?
           
         
        
          274 [01:44:45] <c-c> kingkong-: are you using bash
           
         
        
          275 [01:45:24] <kingkong-> yes  
         
        
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          277 [01:46:05] <kingkong-> cant recall it as line number shortly
            ?
           
         
        
          278 [01:46:37] <borsin> kingkong-: repeat ctrl + r until you find
            it or as i said since you know what the command looks like with
            'history' type until you get that one
           
         
        
          279 [01:46:41] <c-c> no  
         
        
          280 [01:46:47] <c-c> kingkong-: !<linenumber>
           
         
        
          281 [01:46:49] <c-c> fex  
         
        
          282 [01:46:55] <c-c> !3259  
         
        
          283 [01:48:19] <c-c> you may want to test first to be safe: $ cat
            !3259
           
         
        
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          286 [01:48:41] <Hello71> no such file or directory: `ls'
           
         
        
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          289 [01:49:35] <c-c> Hello71: your bash is fail?
           
         
        
          290 [01:50:04] <Hello71> dunno why you're trying to cat a
            command
           
         
        
          291 [01:50:22] <c-c> Hello71: to see if its the correct one
           
         
        
          292 [01:50:33] <Hello71> sigh  
         
        
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          294 [01:51:06] <c-c> You can sigh all you like until you manage a
            multi-million server, failure of which gets you sacked
           
         
        
          295 [01:51:44] <Hello71> multi-million transistors I'm sure.
           
         
        
          296 [01:52:04] <Hello71> given that apparently you don't
            know how to print a string in bourne-compatible shell
           
         
        
          297 [01:52:42] <kingkong-> boths of them worked. thanks you guys.
            :)
           
         
        
          298 [01:52:45] <c-c> yeah well  
         
        
          299 [01:53:10] <c-c> Hello71: at least I didnt come around
            dorking when other people help people :)
           
         
        
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          302 [01:53:58] <Hello71> reminds me of a conversation I
            overheard: "copy it to temp. no, temp. TEE EM PEE."
           
         
        
          303 [01:54:20] <c-c> - its not pretty but should be safe
           
         
        
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          330 [02:02:45] <kingkong-> its possible to erase some lines from
            history ? for example "logout" commands
           
         
        
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          341 [02:08:04] <c-c> kingkong-: yea  
         
        
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          346 [02:10:27] <veek> is there a way to recover files or fix the
            linux filesystem.. my disk was dropped and i rebooted into linux,
            and damaged the fs.. read works. i get: EXT4-fs (sda2): error
            loading journal
           
         
        
          347 [02:10:35] <veek> JBD2: IO error reading journal superblock
           
         
        
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          350 [02:10:57] <c-c> veek: yes there is  
         
        
          351 [02:11:15] <veek> Ooo do tell  
         
        
          352 [02:11:34] <c-c> gddrescue f.ex.  
         
        
          353 [02:11:58] <c-c> fsck should run on startup
           
         
        
          354 [02:12:13] <veek> are there any books/tutorials that'll
            help me understand the recovery process
           
         
        
          355 [02:12:26] <veek> c-c, i can't mount -o ro
           
         
        
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          357 [02:12:52] <c-c> veek: can you look at magicrescue too
           
         
        
          358 [02:13:42] <kingkong-> c-c how ?  
         
        
          359 [02:13:57] <c-c> kingkong-: history -d <linenumber>
           
         
        
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          361 [02:15:28] <ksft> When I run `optirun glxgears`, the window
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          362 [02:15:41] <kingkong-> after i run !<number> that line
            order moves to the end of history ?
           
         
        
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          384 [02:27:53] <kingkong-> that deletes 1 line only. can i give
            number interval or specify commands ? like erase all
            "logout" from history
           
         
        
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          398 [02:34:47] <Hello71> sed -i -e '/logout/d'
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          422 [02:53:00] <XRyuu> Hello all  
         
        
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          424 [02:53:11] <XRyuu> I installed Debian netinstall
           
         
        
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          428 [02:53:22] <XRyuu> how can i install Plasma?
           
         
        
          429 [02:53:40] <XRyuu> currently in cli no DE installed
           
         
        
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          433 [02:55:27] <themill> !install kde  
         
        
          434 [02:55:27] <dpkg> The 'kde-standard' package gets
            you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and
            'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with
            respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything
            KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1):
            from the 'Software selection' dialog, choose
            "KDE" (use space bar to toggle selections), then
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          436 [02:57:16] <awal1> XRyuu, just use aptitude search pkgname ,
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          439 [02:58:36] <XRyuu> what if i use apt-get install kde-standard
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          441 [02:59:39] <themill> there's no such package name as
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          442 [02:59:57] <XRyuu> kde-plasma-netbook sorry
           
         
        
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          445 [03:00:16] <XRyuu> kde-plasma-desktop that one
           
         
        
          446 [03:00:25] <awal1> aptitude show pkgname
           
         
        
          447 [03:00:39] <awal1> and read descriptions
           
         
        
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          450 [03:02:09] <awal1> debian installer installs kde-standard
           
         
        
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          452 [03:02:49] <awal1> well, since jessie, if not wrong,
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          453 [03:03:34] <awal1> task-kde-desktop  
         
        
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          455 [03:03:55] <awal1> ,v task-kde-desktop
           
         
        
          456 [03:03:56] <judd> Package: task-kde-desktop on amd64 --
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          470 [03:15:52] <kingkong-> Hello71: thx, do i replace
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          489 [03:30:54] <kingkong-> if yes, this command didn't erase
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          540 [04:04:26] <foul_owl> Does anyone here use awesomewm or is it
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          556 [04:16:22] <foul_owl> Or is there a backport for awesomewm
            somewhere?
           
         
        
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          558 [04:18:03] <missmbob> no  
         
        
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          560 [04:18:21] <foul_owl> the version taht ships with jessie was
            compiled in 2013... :(
           
         
        
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          566 [04:21:34] <coruja> ,v awesome  
         
        
          567 [04:21:35] <judd> Package: awesome on amd64 -- wheezy:
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          570 [04:22:09] <foul_owl> awesome --version
           
         
        
          571 [04:22:13] <foul_owl> Build: Feb 17 2013 21:10:46 for x86_64
            by gcc version 4.7.2 (buildd@replaced-ip )
           
         
        
          572 [04:23:05] <foul_owl> I understand keeping a
            "stable" version in the main repos, but why not toss a
            build or three into jessie backports?
           
         
        
          573 [04:23:35] <themill> "why not" doesn't
            magically make volunteers appear
           
         
        
          574 [04:23:49] <foul_owl> I volunteer  
         
        
          575 [04:23:51] <coruja> with a bit more patience you may wait for
            stretch getting stable and being released soon(tm)
           
         
        
          576 [04:23:58] <themill> foul_owl: then do it!
           
         
        
          577 [04:24:11] <foul_owl> How do I get perms to upload debs to
            jessie backports?
           
         
        
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          579 [04:24:23] <themill>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          580 [04:24:24] <foul_owl> I will happily do that for dozens of
            buggy packages
           
         
        
          581 [04:25:02] <themill> backports is not for fixing bugs
           
         
        
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          583 [04:26:03] <foul_owl> Ah ok  
         
        
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          586 [04:26:17] <foul_owl> Instead of uploading a newer deb to
            backports, should I file a bug report instead?
           
         
        
          587 [04:26:30] <foul_owl> I would rather contribute a new package
            than add another report to the pile
           
         
        
          588 [04:26:42] <themill> helping get stretch released is probably
            the most productive thing to do then
           
         
        
          589 [04:26:52] <foul_owl> Ah ok!  
         
        
          590 [04:27:19] <foul_owl> What's a good way I can help with
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          591 [04:27:55] <Shadow_7> if you have patches you can submit them
            upstream so they filter back downstream eventually
           
         
        
          592 [04:28:06] <themill>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          593 [04:28:16] <foul_owl> Thank you  
         
        
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          619 [04:55:54] <abishai> guys  
         
        
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          621 [04:56:20] <abishai> I just nmaped my server, and there are
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          624 [04:56:57] <abishai> what's up with that, I know
            I'm not running any services up there
           
         
        
          625 [04:57:29] <psychoticwarrior> what services?
           
         
        
          626 [04:57:45] <Shadow_7> dns is port 53 and udp
           
         
        
          627 [04:57:51] <psychoticwarrior> yes it is
           
         
        
          628 [04:58:00] <bibble> tru dat  
         
        
          629 [04:58:02] <abishai> udp 19722, 20742, 34862.. just some of
            them
           
         
        
          630 [04:58:22] <Shadow_7> abishai: what does netstat say on the
            machine you scanned?
           
         
        
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          632 [04:59:06] <abishai> netstat -tulpn shows only 2 ports open,
            sshd and httpd, as it should
           
         
        
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          634 [04:59:59] <abishai> but those high UDP ports listening are
            weird, nmap can't find a service, reports 'unknown'
           
         
        
          635 [05:00:09] <jsw_> Did you scan loopback, or one of your eth
            interfaces?
           
         
        
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          637 [05:00:40] <abishai> I nmap from my home PC to my server
           
         
        
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          640 [05:01:13] <abishai> have you tried nmaping your boxes?
           
         
        
          641 [05:01:17] <jsw_> There may be something (modem? consumer
            firewall?) that has those ports open in between your pc and server?
           
         
        
          642 [05:01:43] <jsw_> No, sorry, wrong direction. That's not
            it.
           
         
        
          643 [05:01:52] <abishai> nmap -sS -sU -T4 -A -v -PE -PP -PS80,443
            -PA3389 -PU40125 -PY -g 53 --script "default or (discovery and
            safe)"
           
         
        
          644 [05:01:56] <abishai> try this  
         
        
          645 [05:02:15] <abishai> (script is included in windows gui
            version of nmap)
           
         
        
          646 [05:02:28] <Shadow_7> is X running on said machine?
           
         
        
          647 [05:02:44] <Shadow_7> xauth list  
         
        
          648 [05:02:45] <abishai> noway, it's a web server
           
         
        
          649 [05:03:04] <jsw_> Use telnet to connect on those ports. What
            banner do you get?
           
         
        
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          652 [05:04:28] <abishai> nothing. 'Connection Refused'
           
         
        
          653 [05:05:13] <jsw_> ... Then nmap or the script is lying to you
            I would think.
           
         
        
          654 [05:05:15] <abishai> could be some systemd sockets with no
            services behind
           
         
        
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          659 [05:07:49] <psychoticwarrior> udev is a bitch. it should
            always be disabled
           
         
        
          660 [05:07:56] <psychoticwarrior> froze my machine
           
         
        
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          662 [05:09:01] <bibble> think systemd ntp is on high/random udp
            port
           
         
        
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          666 [05:09:32] <abishai> if anyone wants to test his box, share
            your results, Im curious
           
         
        
          667 [05:10:15] <abishai> let's make happy safe boxes :)
           
         
        
          668 [05:11:11] <jsw_> @abishai, I think you'll need to chase
            down the inconsistency between the telnet test and your nmap tests
            before you get any further
           
         
        
          669 [05:11:42] <abishai> probably true  
         
        
          670 [05:11:48] <abishai> will look into it
           
         
        
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          672 [05:12:30] <jsw_> Oh - duh. The difference is TCP vs UDP.
           
         
        
          673 [05:12:36] <Shadow_7> does udev even need to run after boot?
            The /dev/ devices should be created at that point. Baring device hot
            plugging.
           
         
        
          674 [05:14:07] <abishai> jsw_: wait.. yes lol.. fail test,
            I'll hack up a script to connect with UDP real quick
           
         
        
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          689 [05:29:35] <ksft> When I run `optirun glxgears`, the window
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          690 [05:30:07] <ksft> this is on a laptop with a hybrid
            Nvidia/Intel graphics card thing
           
         
        
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          694 [05:30:55] <abishai> jsw_: I setup a php script, sending a
            few bytes succeeds but when I try to receive anything, socket_recv()
            returns false with '[0] The operation completed
            successfully.'
           
         
        
          695 [05:30:59] <ksft> Debian 8.6, Bumblebee 3.2.1
           
         
        
          696 [05:31:31] <abishai> jsw_: note that the same happens to ANY
            UDP port, not just the ones nmap reported 'open/filtered'
           
         
        
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          698 [05:32:27] <abishai> jsw_: so what can I say, probably some
            nmap cmdline weirdness
           
         
        
          699 [05:32:36] <jsw_> abishai, I'm afraid I'm not
            familiar with php enough to offer advice on that. What about netcat?
           
         
        
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          703 [05:37:00] <abishai> jsw_: nc -vnzu server.ip 1-65535
           
         
        
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          705 [05:37:40] <abishai> jsw_: reports ALL udp ports as
            '(UNKNOWN) [x.x.x.x] 65518 (?) open'
           
         
        
          706 [05:38:39] <abishai> jsw_: I stopped scanning at port 64000
            or so because it was getting ridiculous
           
         
        
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          708 [05:39:06] <abishai> jsw_: can you try on your box
           
         
        
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          711 [05:41:04] <userro> there are only 64000 ports you can't
            scan more
           
         
        
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          714 [05:42:02] <abishai> nc started scanning from 65k downwards
           
         
        
          715 [05:42:17] <userro> kk  
         
        
          716 [05:42:55] <jsw_> tldr I'd chalk it up to a red herring
           
         
        
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          718 [05:43:12] <abishai> ?  
         
        
          719 [05:44:26] <jsw_> Unless both process bind to aport with the
            right flag IIUC the netcat test should have revealed any ports
            already in use.
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          726 [05:50:22] <veek> userro 2^16?  
         
        
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          728 [05:51:19] <userro> 65,536  
         
        
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          730 [05:51:24] <userro> just checked  
         
        
          731 [05:51:33] <userro> I thought it was 64000
           
         
        
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          811 [06:59:04] <johanskizo> how to install wine version 2.2 in
            debian jessie
           
         
        
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          816 [07:00:26] <theraspberry> johanskizo:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          817 [07:01:06] <johanskizo> The following packages have unmet
            dependencies:
           
         
        
          818 [07:01:06] <johanskizo> winehq-staging : Depends:
            wine-staging (= 2.2.0~jessie)
           
         
        
          819 [07:01:17] <theraspberry> well  
         
        
          820 [07:01:25] <johanskizo> E: Unable to correct problems, you
            have held broken packages.
           
         
        
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          822 [07:01:41] <theraspberry> man, I love systems with broken
            packages.
           
         
        
          823 [07:01:48] <theraspberry> sorry.  
         
        
          824 [07:01:55] <johanskizo> but i need solution
           
         
        
          825 [07:02:09] <theraspberry> I can't help you right now. I
            just wanted to post the lmgtfy link.
           
         
        
          826 [07:03:44] <johanskizo> but why?  
         
        
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          828 [07:06:19] <somiaj> johanskizo: where are you getting this
            wine-staging package? Anyways debian doesn't support winehq
            packages, are you just downloading the deb or ddi you add their
            repo.
           
         
        
          829 [07:06:34] <somiaj> debian really only supports the debian
            wine packages.
           
         
        
          830 [07:06:41] <somiaj> ,v wine-development
           
         
        
          831 [07:06:42] <judd> Package: wine-development on amd64 --
            jessie: 1.7.29-4; jessie-backports: 2.0-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.0-3;
            sid: 2.0-3; experimental: 2.1-1; experimental: 2.2-1
           
         
        
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          833 [07:07:08] <somiaj> johanskizo: in which case
            wine-development of version 2.0 from jessie-backports is the newest
            that is available.
           
         
        
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          835 [07:08:00] <johanskizo> somaj: can you send me link the
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          836 [07:08:33] <somiaj> in debian you will want to add the
            jessie-backports to your sources.list then apt-get -t
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          837 [07:08:39] <somiaj> !jessie-backports
           
         
        
          838 [07:08:39] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian
            9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found
            in the "jessie-backports" repository. See <replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          880 [07:38:00] <kacie> hi  
         
        
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          886 [07:40:18] <kacie> man/info pages, READMEs
           
         
        
          887 [07:40:41] <catbehemoth> !bdo  
         
        
          888 [07:40:41] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
            backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
            the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable
            (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
            developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          894 [07:45:28] <catbehemoth> !bdo kernel  
         
        
          895 [07:45:29] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases
            are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask
            me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then
            run «aptitude update». To install the current backported
            kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install
            linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To
            list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude
            search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian
            Backports))'».
           
         
        
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          919 [08:03:02] <kacie> ah, you must be the infamous apestate
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          931 [08:17:58] <bigterd> is there anyway to force ddrescue to
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            primary and backup GPT areas....
           
         
        
          932 [08:18:41] <bigterd> it has them marked as non-trimmed, but
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          966 [08:39:02] <kingsley> After removing and adding PCI cards,
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          977 [08:48:10] <Danielss89> Hi, i'm fairly new to linux, so
            this might be a dumb question. I'm trying to run apt-update but
            i'm getting "gzip: stdout: No space left on device"
           
         
        
          978 [08:48:30] <Shadow_7> Danielss89: df  
         
        
          979 [08:48:32] <Danielss89> When i run df i get:
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          980 [08:48:44] <Danielss89> is apt using /dev/md1 ?
           
         
        
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          983 [08:49:40] <Shadow_7> if there's a kernel update it will
            use /boot/
           
         
        
          984 [08:49:46] <Shadow_7> or grub updates
           
         
        
          985 [08:50:00] <Shadow_7> otherwise most of apt downloads go to
            /var/cache/apt/archives
           
         
        
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          990 [08:51:31] <Danielss89> ok, any idea why i get the no space
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          992 [08:51:49] <kingsley> Danielss89: Yeah, "gzip: stdout:
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            failed trying to write data to a full frive.
           
         
        
          993 [08:52:39] <kingsley> Danielss89: Oops! Sorry! I meant to
            write "...trying to write data to a full Drive".
           
         
        
          994 [08:53:08] <Danielss89> but as i can see, only the boot one
            is full
           
         
        
          995 [08:53:14] <Danielss89> and if it doesn't try to write
            that
           
         
        
          996 [08:53:30] <Danielss89> actually  
         
        
          997 [08:53:31] <Danielss89> update-initramfs: Generating
            /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-40-generic
           
         
        
          998 [08:53:50] <Danielss89> can i assign more space to boot?
           
         
        
          999 [08:53:51] <Danielss89> :D  
         
        
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          1002 [08:54:27] <kingsley> Danielss89: Why? I suspect a.) The
            drive is full. It happens. Just like Shadow_7 suggested, the
            "df" command should reveal full drives. b.) Maybe
            apt-update is writing to the wrong drive.
           
         
        
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          1006 [08:54:41] <SPF> Danielss89: maybe you can try apt-get
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          1007 [08:54:53] <Danielss89>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1010 [08:56:42] <borsin> does /var exist - is /var on a partition
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          1011 [08:57:24] <Danielss89> that helped a lot
           
         
        
          1012 [08:57:27] <Danielss89> thanks guys  
         
        
          1013 [08:57:31] <Danielss89> 35% used on boot now
           
         
        
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          1119 [10:15:26] <alioui_> judd, file Python.h
           
         
        
          1120 [10:15:29] <judd> Search for Python.h in jessie/amd64:
            [truncated] python-cxx-dev: usr/include/CXX/WrapPython.h;
            libfontforge-dev: usr/include/fontforge/ffpython.h; libpyside-dev:
            usr/include/PySide/QtCore/pyside_qtcore_python.h,
            usr/include/PySide/QtDeclarative/pyside_qtdeclarative_python.h,
            usr/include/PySide/QtGui/pyside_qtgui_python.h,
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          1121 [10:15:30] <judd>
            usr/include/PySide/QtNetwork/pyside_qtnetwork_python.h,
            usr/include/PySide/QtOpenGL/pyside_qtopengl_python.h,
            usr/include/PySide/QtScript/pyside_qtscript_python.h,
            usr/include/PySide/QtScriptTools/pyside_qtscripttools_python.h,
            usr/include/PySide/QtSql/pyside_qtsql_python.h,
            usr/include/PySide/QtSvg/pyside_qtsvg_python.h,
            usr/include/PySide/QtTest/pyside_qttest_python.h, (1 more message)
           
         
        
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          1202 [11:07:24] <nezZario> Might be a really dumb question but I
            can't find it in the docs stated or implied really
           
         
        
          1203 [11:07:46] <nezZario> In /etc/apt/preferences.d -- are the
            Pin Priorities .. is priority "1" a "high" or
            "low" priority ?
           
         
        
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          1208 [11:12:15] <nezZario> Ahh disregard finally found a line that
            clarifies, .. higher number is higher priority
           
         
        
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          1214 [11:15:26] <mernilio> Hello all! Debian men <-- my
            favorite kind of men!
           
         
        
          1215 [11:15:41] <bazhang> hi mernilio  
         
        
          1216 [11:16:28] <mernilio> And debian woman! We do need more
            females here in free software!
           
         
        
          1217 [11:16:40] <babilen> nezZario: Just out of curiosity: What
            are you trying to achieve?
           
         
        
          1218 [11:16:44] <bazhang> mernilio, fnordistus?
           
         
        
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          1220 [11:17:35] <mernilio> bazhang: Im not from iceland ^^
           
         
        
          1221 [11:18:07] <bazhang> mernilio, #debian-offtopic for chatter
           
         
        
          1222 [11:18:28] <mernilio> sure... note taken! ;-)
           
         
        
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          1233 [11:26:20] <nezZario> babilen: nginx with http2 + learn how
            to use preferences
           
         
        
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          1239 [11:27:59] <nezZario> So alright, this all makes pretty
            decent sense and I'm fairly confident except I don't
            understand the a= n= v= c= o= l= options on the Pin: line..
            Particularly the Component, Origin, and Label
           
         
        
          1240 [11:28:26] <nezZario> It makes perfect sense when we're
            using the official Debian repos, but how do I find the Label or
            Origin of a third party repository ?
           
         
        
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          1247 [11:31:11] <nezZario> Hm actually apt-cache policy shows some
            of the info
           
         
        
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          1255 [11:34:57] <babilen> nezZario: Which version of Debian do you
            run?
           
         
        
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          1258 [11:35:20] <babilen> I'd *strongly* recommend to not mix
            releases
           
         
        
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          1263 [11:38:05] <babilen> judd: v nginx --release jessie-backports
           
         
        
          1264 [11:38:08] <judd> Package: nginx on amd64 --
            jessie-backports: 1.10.3-1~bpo8+1
           
         
        
          1265 [11:38:26] <babilen> nezZario: I have some deployments with
            http2 running on jessie with nginx from jessie-backports ^^
           
         
        
          1266 [11:38:44] <babilen> (assuming you run jessie)
           
         
        
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          1313 [12:12:12] <kacie> mass router updates?
           
         
        
          1314 [12:12:15] <quack_> Hi  
         
        
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          1317 [12:13:14] <quack_> Can someone link me a pirate copy of
            linux pleas. my neighbour gifted me this computer but i don't
            know how to upgrade it
           
         
        
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          1319 [12:13:34] <quack_> Linux 10 please  
         
        
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          1321 [12:13:40] <bazhang> quack_, no such thing
           
         
        
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          1323 [12:13:45] <kacie> its free quack  
         
        
          1324 [12:13:49] <bazhang> quack_, go play elsewhere
           
         
        
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          1326 [12:13:59] <kacie> no need to link here
           
         
        
          1327 [12:14:04] <quack_> bazhang please link it, linux 10
           
         
        
          1328 [12:14:16] <bazhang> quack_, stop asking
           
         
        
          1329 [12:14:39] <bazhang> !ops | quack_ trolling
           
         
        
          1330 [12:14:39] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
            mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
            zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang
            complains about: | quack_ trolling
           
         
        
          1331 [12:14:45] <quack_> I neeed linux 10 to watch vidoes
           
         
        
          1332 [12:14:51] <kacie> la la la, life is also free so enjoy the
            ride
           
         
        
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          1335 [12:15:34] <quack_> I walways see the flash player message, I
            downloaded it but it doesn't work.
           
         
        
          1336 [12:15:35] <bazhang> quack_, there is no such thing, stop
            asking
           
         
        
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          1339 [12:16:00] <bazhang> quack_, there is no linux 10, stop the
            nonsense
           
         
        
          1340 [12:16:05] <quack_> How can I watch videos on my computer? My
            daughter needs this for scholl too
           
         
        
          1341 [12:16:15] <kacie> bazhang ruins the fun
           
         
        
          1342 [12:16:39] <kacie> bazhang :)  
         
        
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          1348 [12:18:32] <quack_> Don't fucking call me racist
           
         
        
          1349 [12:18:40] <quack_> systemd fucked my machine
           
         
        
          1350 [12:18:49] <quack_> I had to send it to the fuciking tip
           
         
        
          1351 [12:19:04] <quack_> I also beat my wife because of systemd
           
         
        
          1352 [12:19:18] <quack_> Ian killed himslfpo because of systemd
           
         
        
          1353 [12:19:52] <quack_> I killed my child because systemd
           
         
        
          1354 [12:19:53] <kacie> quack runlevel -666 is your best chance of
            survival
           
         
        
          1355 [12:19:56] <Pepe> Hello guys  
         
        
          1356 [12:20:00] <Pepe> what can I do with
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1357 [12:20:06] <quack_> Pepe  
         
        
          1358 [12:20:21] <quack_> systemd made me kill my own child
           
         
        
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          1360 [12:20:37] <kacie> im out. server updates early tomorrow
           
         
        
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          1363 [12:21:58] <kacie> btw ops, kill the trolls
           
         
        
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          1367 [12:24:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o abrotman
           
         
        
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            *!*@host86-183-87-190.range86-183.btcentralplus.com
           
         
        
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          1390 [12:32:26] <nezZario> So, just out of curiosity
           
         
        
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          1393 [12:33:42] <nezZario> There is, for example,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1398 [12:35:44] <abrotman> What is sury.org?
           
         
        
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          1401 [12:37:12] <nezZario> Some third party apt repo
           
         
        
          1402 [12:37:36] <nezZario> i.e. I have deb
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1404 [12:37:42] <abrotman> nezZario: I'd say no
           
         
        
          1405 [12:37:51] <abrotman> (though, I also wouldn't be using
            third party repos like that)
           
         
        
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          1412 [12:41:14] <Pepe> hm noone can help me?:(
           
         
        
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          1414 [12:41:23] <nezZario> Honestly? I'm not even going to
            use them right now -- that's actually why I'm asking this.
            What I need is _currently_ in debian testing and I'll just
            enable it like that. Note that there are only a few packages in each
            of these repos (... they're not complete systems)
           
         
        
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          1416 [12:42:17] <nezZario> What I want to do is put those
            repositories in my server templates, .. both _individually_ with a
            Priority of -1 .. so if a month from now, .. I want to pull/upgrade
            php from that repo it's easy ..
           
         
        
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          1418 [12:42:24] <nezZario> And honestly I'm downright curious
            about this
           
         
        
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          1422 [12:45:34] <babilen> nezZario: As I said: Use nginx from
            jessie-backports
           
         
        
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          1427 [12:48:16] <tw> How do I properly set up a user service unit
            to kill itself prior to sleep/hibernation/hybrid and execute a
            restore function after wake if it was killed this way? I guess more
            simply, how do I define units that execute some action prior to PM
            stops and after PM wakes?
           
         
        
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          1440 [12:53:12] <tw> More specifically I need to unmount/unlock
            network resources like SMB and kill some 3rd party programs that
            don't like hibernation or cause restores to take a really long
            time until they time out.
           
         
        
          1441 [12:53:37] <Alina-malina> I need to convert some pdf file to
            html, but i get encoding messup with pdftohtml, is there anyway to
            convert it correctly?
           
         
        
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          1444 [12:54:38] <thyriaen> i am trying to get f.lux (
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1446 [12:56:36] <nkuttler> Alina-malina: just set the encoding to
            whatever it is in the html head
           
         
        
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          1456 [13:02:33] <Alina-malina> nkuttler, where?
           
         
        
          1457 [13:03:40] <tw> in the browser or in the http.
           
         
        
          1458 [13:03:49] <tw> *httpd  
         
        
          1459 [13:03:52] <sherm>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1462 [13:04:37] <Alina-malina> its a pdf file in
           
         
        
          1463 [13:04:40] <Alina-malina> local directory
           
         
        
          1464 [13:04:45] <Alina-malina> i need to convert it to html
           
         
        
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          1467 [13:05:10] <Alina-malina> when i do this the html file text
            becomes unreadable
           
         
        
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          1469 [13:05:18] <Alina-malina> and it is content="text/html;
            charset=UTF-8"
           
         
        
          1470 [13:05:43] <Alina-malina> how to check the encoding of pdf
            file instead? the problem is in pdf side not html
           
         
        
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          1472 [13:05:59] <sherm> what program are you using to do the
            convert?
           
         
        
          1473 [13:06:12] <Alina-malina> pdftohtml  
         
        
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          1477 [13:08:18] <StoBrendo> Hi there . I would want to backup my
            debian jessie/8 system easily. Could someone point me to the easiest
            (safest) way?
           
         
        
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          1481 [13:09:43] <sherm> I think there may be a problem with your
            input PDF. There is another PDF conversion prog that may be worth
            trying: pdf2htmlex
           
         
        
          1482 [13:10:03] <Alina-malina> ok let me try it
           
         
        
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          1484 [13:10:48] <sherm> StoBrendo: this is a massive topic and
            depends on lots of factors. Take a look at rsync.
           
         
        
          1485 [13:11:23] <thecha> is there any proprietary software in
            debian?
           
         
        
          1486 [13:11:37] <thecha> or is there only some in the repositories
           
         
        
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          1489 [13:13:03] <StoBrendo> thecha: i think you only fetch
            propietary software in debian if you add non-free to your
            sources.list
           
         
        
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          1493 [13:15:30] <StoBrendo> sherm: my best bullet atm is,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1496 [13:19:07] <sherm> StoBrendo: my preferred technique is to
            run a nightly cron script, using rsync, to do the backup. Mirrored
            discs (RAID) are good too but don't prevent against human
            error. This may be useful for you:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1501 [13:22:01] <StoBrendo> sherm: rsync does not seem a good
            choice to me, since its just a directory tree copy. I would rather
            preffer tar with xz compression. But I was thinking in something
            like dar , I usually find nice debian's wiki articles that help
            you to not end having a frankestein system ( ej:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1504 [13:22:54] <tw> raid, even mirroring, is not backup.
            anecdotally, I've recently had a raid1 failure that replicated
            errors to both disks.
           
         
        
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          1506 [13:23:25] <sherm> you want to image your entire disc each
            time you make a backup?
           
         
        
          1507 [13:24:01] <sherm> yes, i know RAID doesn't protect you
            against file corruption or doing something stupid!
           
         
        
          1508 [13:24:30] <tw> This was a hardware controller failure.
           
         
        
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          1511 [13:24:47] <sherm> ah, that's a bugger, sorry to hear
           
         
        
          1512 [13:24:56] <tw> Wasn't a problem, backups were there.
           
         
        
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          1514 [13:25:05] <StoBrendo> sherm: could you share what do you
            understand for the word: backup ?
           
         
        
          1515 [13:25:25] <StoBrendo> backup isn't just a copuy
           
         
        
          1516 [13:25:31] <StoBrendo> s/copuy/copy/g
           
         
        
          1517 [13:25:46] <sherm> making sufficient copies of data to avoid
            data loss in the future
           
         
        
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          1519 [13:25:59] <sherm> i guess it depends on what sufficient
            means for you requirements
           
         
        
          1520 [13:26:01] <StoBrendo> the same way software versioning
            isn't a bunch of directory with different names organized by
            date
           
         
        
          1521 [13:26:13] <StoBrendo> s/directory/directories/
           
         
        
          1522 [13:27:33] <StoBrendo> sherm: to me what you say is "if
            i would have to write a large project i wouldn't use neither
            git nor subversion not anything like that but just a naming pattern
            for a huge number of directories that would keep track of what each
            thing is"
           
         
        
          1523 [13:27:48] <StoBrendo> s/write a large project/write a large
            software project/
           
         
        
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          1525 [13:28:01] <StoBrendo> s/not anything/nor anything/
           
         
        
          1526 [13:28:08] <sherm> you would need version control for a large
            project
           
         
        
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          1528 [13:28:22] <StoBrendo> you would need a real backup for a
            real not frankestein system
           
         
        
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          1530 [13:28:38] <StoBrendo> or your backup flow would
            frankestein-ize your system
           
         
        
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          1532 [13:29:21] <sherm> are you taking incremental backups nightly
            then more substantial backups weekly?
           
         
        
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          1535 [13:30:23] <StoBrendo> the frequency of the backup is
            irrelevant to determine whether its a good way of doing it or not
           
         
        
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          1537 [13:30:54] <sherm> how are you hoping to implement it?
           
         
        
          1538 [13:31:08] <StoBrendo> I don't hope the things i do.
           
         
        
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          1542 [13:31:27] <StoBrendo> but i surely will use a bash/python
            script
           
         
        
          1543 [13:31:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all  
         
        
          1544 [13:31:45] <StoBrendo> \o  
         
        
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          1546 [13:32:28] <sherm> i'm interested in your plans for the
            design of this backup system?
           
         
        
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          1549 [13:33:33] <StoBrendo> sherm: the plan is , collect
            information > do the proccess manually > automatize it
           
         
        
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          1551 [13:33:48] <StoBrendo> i'm in step 1 right now
           
         
        
          1552 [13:34:16] <StoBrendo> and multitasking , thus the urge of
            backup what i already have
           
         
        
          1553 [13:34:32] <StoBrendo> humans commit failures when
            multitasking xP
           
         
        
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          1565 [13:43:45] <aZz7eCh> If i have a script in cron.hourly ...
            and i chmod -x it, leaving it in that folder, and reboot machine,
            its no longer run, correct ?
           
         
        
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          1567 [13:44:00] <aZz7eCh> i can just +x it later if i want it
            back, being my plan ...
           
         
        
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          1575 [13:48:42] <Michael-jx> Hello , this is your videogame for pc
            windows ?
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1580 [13:51:06] <dionysus69> are sh and bash commands identical to
            execute shell script files?
           
         
        
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          1582 [13:51:56] <tw> dionysus69: No. Oh no, no no no. Bash is a
            superset of sh. If it runs in sh, it will most likely run in bash.
            The reverse is not true.
           
         
        
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          1587 [13:55:50] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: it wont be running still .
            But it would keep its permissions (its still executable)
           
         
        
          1588 [13:55:54] <sherm> AFAIK: sh is POSIX compatible, bash can
            run in POSIX mode making it more like sh
           
         
        
          1589 [13:56:42] <aZz7eCh> how would it keep its permissions
            StoBrendo ? what do you mean buddy?
           
         
        
          1590 [13:57:19] <aZz7eCh> you mean cron can still execute it if
            its no longer got x permissions?
           
         
        
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          1592 [13:58:20] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: ls -l /path/to/chmoded/file
           
         
        
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          1599 [14:03:34] <aZz7eCh> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3208 Feb 19 2016
            autosuspend
           
         
        
          1600 [14:05:34] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: now do sudo chmod +a
            /path/to/that/file && ls -l $_
           
         
        
          1601 [14:05:45] <StoBrendo> sorry  
         
        
          1602 [14:05:58] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: sudo chmod +x
            /path/to/that/file && ls -l $_
           
         
        
          1603 [14:06:04] <StoBrendo> it was +x instead of +a :P
           
         
        
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          1650 [14:31:55] <aZz7eCh> but that will make it executable again,
            no?
           
         
        
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            *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.126.140.243
            *!*@host86-183-87-190.range86-183.btcentralplus.com eir
           
         
        
          1654 [14:33:51] <abrotman> aZz7eCh: yes  
         
        
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          1656 [14:34:29] <user___> i dont hav swapspace. if i use
            "systemctl hibernate", wat wud happen?
           
         
        
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          1659 [14:35:19] <aZz7eCh> so confusing lol. i think StoBrendo just
            missed i was trying to confirm -x'ing would stop the cron from
            running without moving the file
           
         
        
          1660 [14:35:30] <aZz7eCh> sounds like i've done it right.
           
         
        
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          1662 [14:36:18] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: if you achieved what you
            wanted then you did it right. (all but understanding it)
           
         
        
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          1664 [14:37:57] <tdn> Where can I find guidelines for how to
            upgrade PostgreSQL when upgrading Debian from 7 to 8?
           
         
        
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          1671 [14:39:24] <aZz7eCh> well i understand giving a file
            executable permissions or not .. question was will cron obey that
           
         
        
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          1673 [14:39:50] <aZz7eCh> if i missed something further, enlighten
            me :P
           
         
        
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          1676 [14:40:25] <user___> wat wud happen if i run "systemctl
            hibernate" without swap partition?
           
         
        
          1677 [14:40:57] <abrotman> user___: try it, let us know
           
         
        
          1678 [14:41:21] <user___> i dont want to screwup now
           
         
        
          1679 [14:41:28] <abrotman> then don't try it ..
           
         
        
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          1684 [14:42:56] <abrotman> user___: or create a swap file, you
            don't need a whole partition
           
         
        
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          1687 [14:43:18] <awal1> user___, without swap partition, you still
            can use ^
           
         
        
          1688 [14:43:22] <awal1> follow
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1689 [14:43:34] <user___> ok  
         
        
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          1702 [14:47:53] <veek> is there a way to reduce the clutter that
            iptables -log generates? can i specify the fields i want
           
         
        
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          1704 [14:48:04] <tw> Not that this is your question, but why
            wouldn't you have swap space? the virtual memory subsystem has
            a purpose. Even on systems with 72 GB of ram, I still allocate swap
            space.
           
         
        
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          1739 [15:08:38] <stoned> I use swap file, I have MBR, can'
            afford to waste a partition
           
         
        
          1740 [15:08:43] <stoned> I only use 4 primaries.
           
         
        
          1741 [15:09:55] <stoned> And if anyone cares, this is the goofy
            script I wrote to throw in for ansible or other preseeding things.
           
         
        
          1742 [15:10:06] <stoned>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1754 [15:17:51] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: you only have to look for
            cron's user and for file's permissions . That way you
            could know
           
         
        
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          1757 [15:19:06] <StoBrendo> aZz7eCh: btw, if you find something
            which doesn't follow filesystem rules , don't forget to
            /msg me
           
         
        
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          1766 [15:21:24] <rdococ> why does debhelper set channel limits?
           
         
        
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          1769 [15:22:33] <joze> there may be join floods from botnets
           
         
        
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          1773 [15:25:03] <rdococ> k  
         
        
          1774 [15:25:14] <rdococ> what bout leave floods?
           
         
        
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          1776 [15:25:32] <joze> only on spring  
         
        
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          1779 [15:26:54] <fredl> hi folks, does anybody know how to make
            sure a package comes from the backports repository in a preseeded
            install?
           
         
        
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          1782 [15:27:13] <unborn> rdococ: you can safely remove join and
            leave messages..
           
         
        
          1783 [15:27:17] <unborn> no flood at all.  
         
        
          1784 [15:27:26] <fredl> I have:  
         
        
          1785 [15:27:29] <fredl> d-i apt-setup/local0/repository string \
           
         
        
          1786 [15:27:29] <fredl>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1787 [15:27:37] <fredl> in my preseed file
           
         
        
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          1789 [15:28:19] <fredl> but when I do d-i pkgsel/include string
            nvidia-driver I get the regular package, not the one from backports
           
         
        
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          1794 [15:29:59] <fredl> ah figured it out already
           
         
        
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          1813 [15:38:29] <mernilio> Hi all .. im banned from
            "debian-off-topic" :-P
           
         
        
          1814 [15:38:34] <mernilio> haha  
         
        
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          1816 [15:38:54] <mernilio> can any of you adjust it?
           
         
        
          1817 [15:39:06] <towo`> use the right network
           
         
        
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          1819 [15:39:24] <Shadow_7_> for starters it's
            #debian-offtopic
           
         
        
          1820 [15:39:25] <towo`> #debian-offtopic is on oftc, not freenode
           
         
        
          1821 [15:39:33] <mernilio> Im willing to do anything dude! :-|
           
         
        
          1822 [15:39:48] <ByteStorm> lap dance  
         
        
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          1824 [15:40:02] <mernilio> lap dance? .. :-P
           
         
        
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          1826 [15:40:51] <mernilio> With my aged body i suppose you dont
            appreciate it...
           
         
        
          1827 [15:41:04] <mernilio> :-)  
         
        
          1828 [15:41:07] <ByteStorm> np,ill manage  
         
        
          1829 [15:41:19] <zykotick9> towo`: actually -offtopic is on both
            networks...
           
         
        
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          1831 [15:41:21] <CQ> what's the best way to "move"
            a system, if I am forced to reinstall to a new machine? i.e. I want
            to reinstall, then copy all configuration etc. over...
           
         
        
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          1833 [15:41:33] <mernilio> But sure... i have some moves! :-)
           
         
        
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          1836 [15:42:04] <mernilio> I can stuff around! :-)
           
         
        
          1837 [15:42:34] <mernilio> like a negro.  
         
        
          1838 [15:42:40] <mernilio> haha  
         
        
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          1840 [15:43:28] <mernilio> a racist remark .. sorry
           
         
        
          1841 [15:43:31] <mernilio> :-)  
         
        
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          1843 [15:44:23] <mernilio> I dont care about color.. but you
            whitys have an issue! It seems.
           
         
        
          1844 [15:46:04] <mernilio> What is color anyway? Im a rapper and
            in my world colour dont mean a thing!
           
         
        
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          1846 [15:46:54] <mernilio> haha :-)  
         
        
          1847 [15:47:27] <mernilio> I try to be nice! :-)
           
         
        
          1848 [15:49:34] <unborn> wth?  
         
        
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          1850 [15:50:10] <mernilio> I know i can be offensive .. but thanks
            for having me! :-)
           
         
        
          1851 [15:50:27] <unborn> mernilio: how this have anything to do
            with debian?
           
         
        
          1852 [15:50:29] <mernilio> word goes to unborn
           
         
        
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          1856 [15:51:15] <mernilio> unborn: im banned from that other
            channel...
           
         
        
          1857 [15:51:51] <awal1> probably soon form here too
           
         
        
          1858 [15:51:55] <mernilio> They didnt appreciated my enormously
            big penis.
           
         
        
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          1860 [15:52:07] <Shadow_7_> unborn: cause... apt-get install
            xiphos bible-kjv
           
         
        
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          1862 [15:52:18] <mernilio> sorry :-)  
         
        
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          1865 [15:52:42] <awal1> !ops: mernilio trolling
           
         
        
          1866 [15:53:07] <mernilio> Im a good guy, and i support debian as
            well! :-)
           
         
        
          1867 [15:53:10] <unborn> !ops mernilio spam
           
         
        
          1868 [15:53:10] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
            mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
            zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: unborn complains
            about: mernilio spam
           
         
        
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          1870 [15:54:17] <mernilio> What is that list? :-)
           
         
        
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          1872 [15:55:01] <mernilio> Like some sort of hate crime!
           
         
        
          1873 [15:55:31] <Shadow_7_> Looks like a /msg to all the ops
           
         
        
          1874 [15:55:43] <mernilio> Now i have an issue with you!
           
         
        
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          1876 [15:55:59] <Shadow_7_> It wouldn't be a date if you
            didn't have issues
           
         
        
          1877 [15:56:11] <unborn> mernilio: I am pain in but for admins
            here, sometimes I just dont know where to stop, but at least I have
            some point which is very different from you.
           
         
        
          1878 [15:56:30] <mernilio> Sure thing dude!
           
         
        
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          1880 [15:57:14] <unborn> *butt.. anyway this is debian support
            chan and please - if you have nothing to contribute to help anyone
            here, just go off-topic or learn...noone needs to read crap.
           
         
        
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          1884 [15:59:25] <mernilio> What gives dude? :-P
           
         
        
          1885 [16:00:08] <mernilio> English polise men are so lame btw! :-)
           
         
        
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          1889 [16:01:05] <mernilio> You have my respect tho! I tip my hat
            for you officer!
           
         
        
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            *!*@c213-89-55-176.bredband.comhem.se
           
         
        
          1895 [16:03:19] *** mernilio was kicked by abrotman (you should know
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          1900 [16:06:33] <stoned> *sigh*  
         
        
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          1902 [16:06:46] <stoned> Is there a single day I can live in this
            world and not be exposed to racism. FFS.
           
         
        
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          1904 [16:06:51] <stoned> *afk*  
         
        
          1905 [16:07:11] <Shadow_7_> some call it camping... in the absence
            of other humans
           
         
        
          1906 [16:07:14] <unborn> heh.. not again please
           
         
        
          1907 [16:07:16] <stoned> Heh.  
         
        
          1908 [16:07:26] <stoned> I'm going afk, butnicely done. /me
            smiles
           
         
        
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          1911 [16:07:56] <Shadow_7_> But then you experience species-ism.
            Bears just want to eat you up
           
         
        
          1912 [16:08:01] <abrotman> Is there a single day I can live in
            this world without people commenting on trolls ... FFS
           
         
        
          1913 [16:08:10] <abrotman> Moving on ...  
         
        
          1914 [16:09:16] <stoned> abrotman: go camping!
           
         
        
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          1922 [16:15:37] <Mathisen> is it bad practice to have samba shares
            in my /home/user folder ? it seem all guides use /mnt/whatever
           
         
        
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          1926 [16:16:04] <abrotman> Mathisen: are they just for your user?
           
         
        
          1927 [16:16:16] <Mathisen> abrotman, yes  
         
        
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          1929 [16:16:42] * abrotman doesn't see a problem with it then
           
         
        
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          1931 [16:17:36] <sherm> Mathisen: good subject change, well
            excuted
           
         
        
          1932 [16:17:50] <Mathisen> okej but lets say i made a folder for
            "everyone" with read only,
           
         
        
          1933 [16:17:53] <Mathisen> still okej ?  
         
        
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          1938 [16:23:44] <grafdiffuzor> Hello. My mc thinks my term has no
            256 colors, while running under screen. $TERM is xterm-256color
            while no screen, and screen.xterm-256color while under screen.
           
         
        
          1939 [16:24:07] <grafdiffuzor> The question is how to fix mc to
            understand term has support for 256 colors?
           
         
        
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          1946 [16:30:24] <ericnoan> mc? do you get any colors at all?
           
         
        
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          1951 [16:34:25] <edeca> ericnoan: Midnight Commander maybe?
           
         
        
          1952 [16:34:53] <ericnoan> people still use that? /s
           
         
        
          1953 [16:35:03] * edeca shrugs :)  
         
        
          1954 [16:35:14] <edeca> What doesn't ls do? Heh
           
         
        
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          1956 [16:35:26] <ericnoan> yah, or cp/mv  
         
        
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          1959 [16:37:04] <grafdiffuzor> ericnoan seems like 16 colors
           
         
        
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          1962 [16:37:42] <ericnoan> so you notice colors are missing while
            using screen?
           
         
        
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          1965 [16:39:13] <grafdiffuzor> only in mc  
         
        
          1966 [16:39:19] <grafdiffuzor> ll seems to have 256 colors
           
         
        
          1967 [16:39:29] <grafdiffuzor> that is, ls -l
           
         
        
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          1970 [16:40:22] <grafdiffuzor> that started after I upgraded from
            Jessie to Stretch
           
         
        
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          1972 [16:40:57] <ericnoan> grafdiffuzor: have you read
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1975 [16:43:27] <Shadow_7_> grafdiffuzor: in a terminal? export
            TERM=xterm ...or... export TERM=xterm-256color
           
         
        
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          1978 [16:44:10] <grafdiffuzor> well, I do have 256 colors while in
            term (xfce4-terminal), it just changes when I run mc under screen
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          1979 [16:44:13] <ericnoan> also, mc seems to start in 16 colors
            mode by default, you have to load a special skin to get 256 colors.
            can't you live with 16 colors?
           
         
        
          1980 [16:44:33] <Shadow_7_> I think TERM=xterm == 16 colors
           
         
        
          1981 [16:45:03] <ericnoan> if i go to options -> appearance and
            set a 256 color skin, i get an error
           
         
        
          1982 [16:45:24] <ericnoan> tell us if you figure it out :)
           
         
        
          1983 [16:45:53] <Shadow_7_> there's a difference for things
            like ... emacs -nw -l
            /usr/share/emacs/24.4/etc/themes/wheatgrass-theme
           
         
        
          1984 [16:45:56] <Shadow_7_> .el /usr/include/stdio.h
           
         
        
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          2061 [17:36:02] <dionysus69> tw: thanks :)
           
         
        
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          2097 [17:55:42] <awal1> no alwaysfocused style?
           
         
        
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          2103 [17:59:18] <awal1> I want to get a few apps always focused
            when I display them pressing the hotkey(s) even no matters which
            window has focus previously. I'm refering to tilda and guake
            terminals
           
         
        
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          2105 [17:59:52] <awal1> - even  
         
        
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          2109 [18:00:38] <cm2> anyone knows why freetype 2.7 ain't in
            sid yet?
           
         
        
          2110 [18:00:59] <awal1> ouuups, wrong channel :P
           
         
        
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          2112 [18:01:12] <cm2> awal1: me?  
         
        
          2113 [18:01:20] <awal1> I tought I was in fvwm channel
           
         
        
          2114 [18:01:30] <cm2> awal1: ah. no. :)  
         
        
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          2116 [18:01:42] <awal1> cm2, me, not you :P
           
         
        
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          2119 [18:02:00] <cm2> awal1: aye. carry on friend.
           
         
        
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          2121 [18:02:58] <cm2> anyone knows? sid, freetype, 2.7 ?
           
         
        
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          2125 [18:05:33] <awal1> it may be in experimental
           
         
        
          2126 [18:05:38] <awal1> check pts  
         
        
          2127 [18:05:51] <cm2> awal1: i didn't even think to check
           
         
        
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          2132 [18:08:16] <cm2> awal1: i don't see it on the webpage
           
         
        
          2133 [18:09:07] <dob1> do I have to uncomment #AuthorizedKeysFile
            %h/.ssh/authorized_keys in sshd_config if i am using key auth for
            ssh?
           
         
        
          2134 [18:09:37] <cm2> dob1: yes. but check the file is named
            authorized_keys
           
         
        
          2135 [18:09:46] <cm2> dob1: sometimes it's authorized_keys2
           
         
        
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          2137 [18:10:22] <dob1> cm2, in the sshd_config or the file in the
            .ssh directory?
           
         
        
          2138 [18:10:31] <cm2> dob1: they have to match
           
         
        
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          2140 [18:10:39] <cm2> so check both  
         
        
          2141 [18:11:33] <dob1> cm2, thanks  
         
        
          2142 [18:11:35] <awal1> cm2, it may not be in debian yet, not all
            pkgs go trough experimental
           
         
        
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          2147 [18:13:06] <cm2> awal1: thanks. i guess i should mail the
            maintainer.
           
         
        
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          2154 [18:14:22] <jhutchins> ,v firefox  
         
        
          2155 [18:14:23] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 --
            jessie-backports/firefox-release: 51.0.1-3~bpo80+1; sid: 51.0.1-3;
            experimental: 52.0~b9-1
           
         
        
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          2161 [18:15:18] <jrtc27> TIL judd knows about mozilla.debian.net
           
         
        
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          2163 [18:16:00] <somiaj> !tell cm2 about slushy
           
         
        
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          2166 [18:17:39] <cm2> somiaj: do tell, because the bot didn't
            say anything
           
         
        
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          2169 [18:18:56] <cm2> somiaj: splashy?  
         
        
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          2173 [18:20:47] <somiaj> cm2: did you not read what the bot told
            you? It says that sid is basically frozen until the release of
            stretch, so many packages won't be upgraded in sid until after
            the release of stretch
           
         
        
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          2175 [18:21:02] <somiaj> it would have been in a privage message,
            maybe you have those turned off
           
         
        
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          2177 [18:21:30] <cm2> somiaj: ah. yes.  
         
        
          2178 [18:22:04] <cm2> somiaj: thanks.  
         
        
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          2284 [19:42:15] <Torinko> Hello  
         
        
          2285 [19:42:42] <Torinko> anybody would like to help me put
            program to repository?
           
         
        
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          2287 [19:44:44] <towo`> Torinko, you propably want to join
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          2290 [19:45:14] <Torinko> towo`: for closed source too? (Thanks)
           
         
        
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          2299 [19:50:53] <xsub0> criptografia cuantica
           
         
        
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          2302 [19:52:18] <La09x09> I cant find caffeine-gtk package
           
         
        
          2303 [19:52:33] <La09x09> so in mate, I cant make
            "caffeine" package show up in panel
           
         
        
          2304 [19:53:17] <missmbob> La09x09: it's just caffeine
           
         
        
          2305 [19:53:37] <La09x09> missmbob, but I want to turn it on and
            off through notification panel
           
         
        
          2306 [19:53:40] <missmbob> oh for gnome you need
            gnome-shell-extension-caffeine
           
         
        
          2307 [19:53:46] <La09x09> I use mate  
         
        
          2308 [19:53:47] <La09x09> not gnome  
         
        
          2309 [19:53:53] <missmbob> then that's it. run it
           
         
        
          2310 [19:54:06] <jhutchins> Interesting. It appears that if your
            kernel is from wheezy backports, it will upgrade to jessie
            backports.
           
         
        
          2311 [19:54:07] <La09x09> it doesnt show up in menu (panel)
           
         
        
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          2313 [19:54:21] <missmbob> La09x09: alt+f2
           
         
        
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          2315 [19:54:39] <n___> i'm building linux-ppc32/64 kernels,
            and trying to cut out all unnecessary drivers.. is there a tool that
            will assess a generic system, the modules in it, compare that to
            whats loaded, and look at the dmesg to see what hw is available..
            then kick out a .config file with drivers for hw that actually
            exists?
           
         
        
          2316 [19:54:50] <La09x09> missmbob, I know but how can I see that
            in panel? to know the current status of caffeine
           
         
        
          2317 [19:54:56] <missmbob> La09x09: might have to run
            caffeine-indicator
           
         
        
          2318 [19:55:15] <La09x09> missmbob, great!. worked. thanks
           
         
        
          2319 [19:55:18] <n___> silver lining: i found out I can upgrade
            the processor in my G4 to a 7448 with a higher clockspeed
           
         
        
          2320 [19:55:22] <n___> lol  
         
        
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          2322 [19:55:27] <La09x09> missmbob, so caffeine is necessary for
            netflix right?
           
         
        
          2323 [19:55:34] <jhutchins> n___: Boot the system, lsmod >
            modules.needed
           
         
        
          2324 [19:55:38] <La09x09> In arch, I didnt need caffeine. strange.
           
         
        
          2325 [19:55:48] <missmbob> La09x09: i wouldnt know
           
         
        
          2326 [19:56:23] <n___> jhutchins: yeah, I'm more of a bsd
            kernel programmer.. I have done a ton with linux, but the basic
            commands (like lsmod over modstat or kldinfo are confusing)
           
         
        
          2327 [19:56:42] <n___> as are the kernel
            symbol_names_formatted_this_way compared to symname
           
         
        
          2328 [19:56:44] <n___> ;)  
         
        
          2329 [19:56:55] <n___> jhutchins thx though
           
         
        
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          2332 [19:59:13] <n___> jhutchins -- lsmod piped to modules.needed
            is all good but i guess i am looking for a utility to translate that
            into .config syntax
           
         
        
          2333 [19:59:26] <n___> so I can just throw it in /usr/src/linux
            and make -j33
           
         
        
          2334 [19:59:55] <n___> That would be a useful utility I think, to
            create a starting point for .config if nothing else than to give one
            the necessary (and only the necessary) drivers
           
         
        
          2335 [20:00:02] <La09x09> missmbob, and for sound, I can put it
            max through settings. then it goes back to default (lower than
            maximum)
           
         
        
          2336 [20:00:08] <n___> other features could be then added with
            make config/menuconfig/etc.
           
         
        
          2337 [20:01:13] <missmbob> La09x09: have you installed/run
            pavucontrol?
           
         
        
          2338 [20:01:35] <jhutchins> n___: I think I'd do it manually.
            At least take a look at how long the list is.
           
         
        
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          2340 [20:02:24] <jhutchins> n___: With Linux' modular
            architecture, the kernel itself is a pretty standard size, and you
            only load the modules you need, so the only thing you save by not
            building unneeded modules is disk space.
           
         
        
          2341 [20:02:29] <La09x09> missmbob, yes I have it installed.
           
         
        
          2342 [20:02:45] <missmbob> La09x09: is that what you're
            using? i dont know if mate uses it
           
         
        
          2343 [20:03:04] <jhutchins> n___: There's not much to be
            gained by building everything into the kernel, and the initrd should
            only have required modules in it.
           
         
        
          2344 [20:03:32] <jhutchins> Looks like going multiarch is finally
            cleaning up the old kde install I had.
           
         
        
          2345 [20:03:45] <La09x09> missmbob, when I put the volume to
            maximum and then press volume keys on laptop, it goes back to
            medium(default) volume
           
         
        
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          2347 [20:04:18] <missmbob> La09x09: sounds like alsa but i'm
            not sure how to help you with that. hopefully someone else will
           
         
        
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          2379 [20:18:07] <ewew> Hi. Is someone here who has experience with
            ddrescue ?
           
         
        
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          2394 [20:24:58] <Hestben> ewew: yes. Please state your question so
            we can help you.
           
         
        
          2395 [20:25:16] <ewew> rescued: 127242 MB, errsize: 1351 MB,
            current rate: 5120 B/s ago[[B^[[ ipos: 228927 MB, errors: 31025,
            average rate: 214 kB/s[[B^[[B^[[ opos: 228927 MB, run time: 6.86 d,
            successful read: 0 s ago
           
         
        
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          2397 [20:25:47] <ewew> on fs its about 229 GB big. why is there a
            big difference.
           
         
        
          2398 [20:26:40] <Hestben> You mean the difference between rescued
            and the actual size?
           
         
        
          2399 [20:26:45] <ewew> yes  
         
        
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          2404 [20:28:05] <Hestben> Hmm, I don't have that much
            experience with dd_rescue, but it might be that it could not read
            the other sectors
           
         
        
          2405 [20:28:17] <Hestben> there are 31025 errors
           
         
        
          2406 [20:28:37] <Hestben> ewew: isn't it still running?
           
         
        
          2407 [20:28:44] <ewew> yes.  
         
        
          2408 [20:29:14] <Hestben> so, it states the currently rescued
            size, and will work until it has finished copying all the sectors it
            can
           
         
        
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          2410 [20:30:02] <ewew> is there a chance of overruning of total
            size of rescued partition ?
           
         
        
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          2412 [20:30:50] <bauerj> Hey, any idea why df shows that there are
            0B available?
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          2413 [20:31:20] <bauerj> If I substract "used" from
            "1K-blocks" I get a remaining size of about 500MiB
           
         
        
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          2415 [20:31:43] <bauerj> I'm also able to create new files so
            the filesystem can't really be full
           
         
        
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          2417 [20:32:35] <Hestben> bauerj: It is probably rounded up
           
         
        
          2418 [20:33:36] <bauerj> Does "available" usually show a
            different unit than "used"?
           
         
        
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          2420 [20:33:58] <Hestben> bauerj: I don't know
           
         
        
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          2424 [20:34:38] <Hestben> bauerj: You are really running on the
            very limits of the file system though. Many people recommend filling
            up partitions to no more than 70%
           
         
        
          2425 [20:34:42] <axujen> hello  
         
        
          2426 [20:34:48] <bauerj> Okay, I think it's unlikely that it
            would round 400M to 0 though^^
           
         
        
          2427 [20:34:52] <bauerj> Yes, you're right
           
         
        
          2428 [20:35:16] <axujen> anyone with experience with the intel gma
            500 gpu? im looking to install the proprietary driver or anything
            that can give decent video playback
           
         
        
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          2430 [20:35:47] <missmbob> bauerj: which os?
           
         
        
          2431 [20:35:55] <Hestben> bauerj: might depend on the fs-type as
            well.
           
         
        
          2432 [20:35:59] <bauerj> Debian GNU/Linux 8
           
         
        
          2433 [20:36:08] <bauerj> It's ext4 on LVM
           
         
        
          2434 [20:36:10] <missmbob> i meant fs  
         
        
          2435 [20:36:13] <bauerj> ok^^  
         
        
          2436 [20:36:20] <missmbob> ext4 reserves 5% for root by default
           
         
        
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          2438 [20:36:43] <bauerj> Well, that would make sense
           
         
        
          2439 [20:37:02] <Hestben> missmbob: Oh, so the space that ext4
            does reserve doesnt end up in "Used"?
           
         
        
          2440 [20:37:40] <bauerj> But I'm also able to use space as a
            non-root user
           
         
        
          2441 [20:37:47] <missmbob> not if there are none used, i'm
            pretty sure not
           
         
        
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          2443 [20:38:34] <missmbob> eh, i dont see that. on same install?
           
         
        
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          2445 [20:38:45] <jhutchins> bauerj: Might be interesting to do df
            -h
           
         
        
          2446 [20:38:51] <jhutchins> su -sh /*  
         
        
          2447 [20:39:00] <jhutchins> du -sh /* sorry
           
         
        
          2448 [20:39:04] <ewew> Hestben Could it be that zeros are not
            counted ?
           
         
        
          2449 [20:39:45] <Hestben> ewew: In currently rescued space? I
            think zeroes are counted, if it is part of the data.
           
         
        
          2450 [20:39:55] <bauerj> Okay, missmbob was right
           
         
        
          2451 [20:40:02] <bauerj> tune2fs -m 0 /dev/dm-0 and now it shows
            it correctly
           
         
        
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          2453 [20:40:12] <jhutchins> axujen: Most intel chipsets are
            supported by open source drivers. lspci -nn and post the PCIID.
           
         
        
          2454 [20:40:20] <bauerj> Thanks!  
         
        
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          2456 [20:40:50] <missmbob> great  
         
        
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          2459 [20:41:58] <axujen> jhutchins, not this card no, its one card
            that doesnt have good open source drivers :/
           
         
        
          2460 [20:42:05] <jhutchins> brb  
         
        
          2461 [20:42:26] <ewew> Hestben the problem is if i attempt to get
            some data, the tool report for example 213 GB image
           
         
        
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          2463 [20:42:33] <axujen> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]:
            Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) Graphics
            Controller [8086:8108] (rev 07)
           
         
        
          2464 [20:42:36] <Hestben> bauerj: Be adviced that ext4 may not
            have any space left to rescue files if the computer suddenly loses
            power in that filled up state the fs is in.
           
         
        
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          2466 [20:43:23] <bauerj> Okay, I'll try to slim down the
            system somehow to get a bit of space back
           
         
        
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          2468 [20:43:59] <Hestben> ewew: You mean, the partition you are
            rescuing is not really filled completely, and you want it to only
            copy the data that is used? I'm not sure, but it may be that
            dd_rescue will copy the partition bit by bit as it is.
           
         
        
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          2470 [20:44:29] <ewew> im wondering if something did not get
            corrupted.
           
         
        
          2471 [20:44:31] <Hestben> ewew: It may not care anything about
            what fs is on the partition, and thus does not know and care about
            how filled it is.
           
         
        
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          2477 [20:47:31] <ewew> Hestben why is it so slow ?
           
         
        
          2478 [20:47:58] <axujen> jhutchins, 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]:
            Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) [8086:8100]
            (rev 07)
           
         
        
          2479 [20:48:03] <Hestben> The amount of read errors suggest that
            it has to restart a lot.
           
         
        
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          2481 [20:48:45] <Hestben> ewew: But I have mostly used it to copy
            dvds before, so I am not an expert on how many read errors are
            normal etc.
           
         
        
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          2483 [20:49:08] <ewew> well im copying a 450 GB partition on
            failing disk.
           
         
        
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          2485 [20:50:21] <Hestben> ewew: I feel with you. One of those late
            reminders of the importance of having a working backup of critical
            files etc
           
         
        
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          2487 [20:50:49] <Hestben> ewew: and using smartd that monitors
            disks and sends out mails when error counts goes up
           
         
        
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          2493 [20:54:29] <ewew> Hestben I wonder how long it will take to
            finish this. Its not funny to have computer running 6 days in the
            row.
           
         
        
          2494 [20:56:14] <Hestben> ewew: Yes, I can see that that is
            frustrating. I guess you could make a guess from the "mean
            rate" and how much data remains to copy.
           
         
        
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          2498 [20:58:20] <ewew> im on the fly extracting data. so i know
            whats there.
           
         
        
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          2503 [21:03:32] <Shadow_7_> RPi's are good for dumb copies.
            With docking stations ofc.
           
         
        
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          2507 [21:04:39] <caesar__> Test  
         
        
          2508 [21:05:35] <Torinko> new branch test on irc
           
         
        
          2509 [21:05:46] <Torinko> caesar__: interesting
           
         
        
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          2511 [21:06:34] <caesar__> i cant see my typing words...
           
         
        
          2512 [21:06:43] <Torinko> i see too  
         
        
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          2525 [21:12:46] <mendi> hi friends debian or centos for hosting?
           
         
        
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          2527 [21:13:19] <mendi> im more familiar with deb but centos seems
            to eat way less resources (~130MB)
           
         
        
          2528 [21:13:47] <th_> debian 4 life  
         
        
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          2531 [21:14:21] <bzed> mendi: the size of the installer does not
            tell you how much it needs on disk.
           
         
        
          2532 [21:14:25] <caesar__> Torkino_ Now i see my written words :-)
            I've changed my textcolours :-)
           
         
        
          2533 [21:14:27] <mendi> any idea on how much the no gui version
            eats eats?
           
         
        
          2534 [21:14:36] <mendi> @bzed im talking about ram
           
         
        
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          2536 [21:14:54] <mendi> im kinda limited to 1GB
           
         
        
          2537 [21:14:59] <th_> kevin mitnick ^ hello
           
         
        
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          2540 [21:15:15] <th_> :D  
         
        
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          2542 [21:16:34] <th_> so mysql is now mariadb on debian?
           
         
        
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          2545 [21:17:50] <somiaj> I belive both are available, choose the
            one you want.
           
         
        
          2546 [21:17:52] <somiaj> ,v mysql  
         
        
          2547 [21:17:54] <judd> No package named 'mysql' was
            found in amd64.
           
         
        
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          2552 [21:18:39] <somiaj> hmm, guess I'm not seeing mysql in
            stretch, in jessie you have both.
           
         
        
          2553 [21:18:51] <mendi> mariadb is the engine
           
         
        
          2554 [21:18:59] <somiaj> ,v mysql-client  
         
        
          2555 [21:19:00] <judd> Package: mysql-client on amd64 -- wheezy:
            5.5.47-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.5.53-0+deb8u1; wheezy-security:
            5.5.54-0+deb7u2; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.5.54-0+deb8u1;
            jessie-security: 5.5.54-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.7.17-1
           
         
        
          2556 [21:19:02] <th_> i installed mariadb, but the server is still
            called "mysqld"
           
         
        
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          2558 [21:19:50] <mendi> does debian have uptodate apache
            repository?
           
         
        
          2559 [21:20:07] <somiaj> mendi: what do you mean by that? You want
            a newer version of apache in say debian jessie?
           
         
        
          2560 [21:20:10] <somiaj> ,v apache2  
         
        
          2561 [21:20:11] <judd> Package: apache2 on amd64 -- wheezy:
            2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u8; jessie:
            2.4.10-10+deb8u7; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u8; stretch:
            2.4.25-3; sid: 2.4.25-3
           
         
        
          2562 [21:20:30] <mendi> in centos we have to compile them
            ourselves @somiaj
           
         
        
          2563 [21:20:30] <somiaj> mendi: looks like the offically supported
            apache in debian is 2.4.10
           
         
        
          2564 [21:20:43] <mendi> does debian have a compiled pkg
           
         
        
          2565 [21:21:19] <somiaj> mendi: the bot just listed the version of
            apache that comes with the different debian releases. In jessie if
            you want something newer than 2.4.10 you'll have to compile it
            yourself and also provide security support yourself.
           
         
        
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          2567 [21:21:35] <bzed> somiaj, mendi: mysql 5.7 is in stretch
           
         
        
          2568 [21:21:54] <somiaj> bzed: what is the package name, I
            couldn't find it.
           
         
        
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          2570 [21:22:19] <bzed> mendi: ram is also not a question of the
            distribution. it depend son the softwre you are usung and the
            traffic.
           
         
        
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          2572 [21:23:09] <somiaj> bzed: I am seing various packages that
            work with mysql, but not seeing the mysql-client or mysql-server in
            stretch.
           
         
        
          2573 [21:23:13] <mendi> @bzed without any software or gui how much
            memory does debian eat
           
         
        
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          2575 [21:23:29] <th_> its now moved to mariadb-server, that
            installs mysqld
           
         
        
          2576 [21:23:33] <mendi> I mean just the core
           
         
        
          2577 [21:23:39] <Shadow_7_> depends on how muc debian is installed
            and active.
           
         
        
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          2579 [21:24:05] <somiaj> th_: sure, but my understanding was
            mariadb and mysql are no longer the same, they are forks when oracle
            got ahold of mysql.
           
         
        
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          2581 [21:24:20] <Shadow_7_> I'm often about 70MB - 140MB
            before I X and browser
           
         
        
          2582 [21:24:44] <mendi> seriously??  
         
        
          2583 [21:24:54] <somiaj> mendi: the core is not really a good
            judge, because most likely it won't have the software you will
            be running, but the install guide lists the minimial requirements.
           
         
        
          2584 [21:25:00] <Shadow_7_> And there's cassandra, drizzle,
            and other forks
           
         
        
          2585 [21:25:09] <th_> im confused why the daemon is still named
            mysqld and not like mariadbd
           
         
        
          2586 [21:25:37] <bzed> somiaj: ah sorry, it was removed, indeed
           
         
        
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          2588 [21:26:06] <bzed> somiaj: mariadb is compatible to mysql
           
         
        
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          2590 [21:26:29] <somiaj> th_: there might be compadability issues
            in which renaming everything would cause issues so it kept the same
            name in the code.
           
         
        
          2591 [21:26:44] <th_> true  
         
        
          2592 [21:26:48] <Shadow_7_> I was watching youtube on my 512MB
            machine up till about two years ago. When ads started cresting 512MB
           
         
        
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          2594 [21:27:49] <Shadow_7_> And old P4 laptop. 2.8GHz 32 bit
            single core for some things it's still beast relative to my
            other low specs hardware
           
         
        
          2595 [21:27:56] <mendi> can I install a GUI and configure debian
            to run with no GUI by default?
           
         
        
          2596 [21:28:26] <somiaj> mendi: just disable or don't install
            a display manager if you don't want the gui to load at boot.
            Then manually run it with startx.
           
         
        
          2597 [21:28:56] <Shadow_7_> mendi: as long as the gui doesn't
            grab a display manager. Or you do the "false" thing in
            /etc/X11/default-display-manager
           
         
        
          2598 [21:28:58] <mendi> oh nice thanks somiaj
           
         
        
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          2600 [21:29:11] <Shadow_7_> dpkg nodm  
         
        
          2601 [21:29:11] <dpkg> Debian does not use a specific runlevel for
            graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s)
            with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm
            slim". "echo false
            >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM,
            or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a
            minimal/automatic display manager (replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2609 [21:33:12] <piratepete> I have a good install of Wordpress on
            my company server (debian) and a bad one, I'm trying to fix on
            another. Is
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          2610 [21:34:15] <piratepete> I guess the question is: is
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          2611 [21:34:38] <missmbob> piratepete: no. that'll break
            wordpress
           
         
        
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          2613 [21:35:14] <piratepete> missmbob: start fresh??
           
         
        
          2614 [21:35:18] <missmbob> yes  
         
        
          2615 [21:35:22] <unborn> piratepete: if you want to be able modify
            those files but still able to process by
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2618 [21:36:13] <unborn> piratepete: but I do say the correct way
            would be su and change your user to
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2622 [21:36:45] <unborn> but if wordpress is bad then dont waste
            your time, just replace with new one
           
         
        
          2623 [21:36:50] <piratepete> unborn: the problem is ... everything
            is root:root
           
         
        
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          2625 [21:36:57] <unborn> - unless you know what your are doing
           
         
        
          2626 [21:37:04] <piratepete> unborn: I must have been in a hurry
           
         
        
          2627 [21:37:11] <unborn> yes thats wrong piratepete
           
         
        
          2628 [21:37:29] <unborn> give it back to
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          2629 [21:37:33] <unborn> and see then  
         
        
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          2631 [21:37:57] <unborn> btw whats bad about that wordpress
            install piratepete
           
         
        
          2632 [21:37:58] <unborn> ?  
         
        
          2633 [21:38:09] <piratepete> thanks folks. I'm off to fix
            this or destroy it :-)
           
         
        
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          2636 [21:38:26] <missmbob> no it's not :P
           
         
        
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          2638 [21:38:55] <Hestben> on the topic of wordpress installs, I
            would like to tip about the tool wpi-cli - Install and configure
            wordpress from the command line
           
         
        
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          2640 [21:38:58] <unborn> root:root because you've been in
            hurry is poor excuse - I believe that you did not read whole docs
            out there.. anyway. good luck piratepete
           
         
        
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          2642 [21:39:33] <piratepete> my root power is kind of like Trumps.
            I'm a Java professional with dangerous system admin knowledge
           
         
        
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          2644 [21:40:05] <unborn> Hestben: sorry, I left my self to carry
            on without realising that this is debian support channel.. I just
            lost it.. so whats the issue?
           
         
        
          2645 [21:40:30] <unborn> heh not politics and other crap..please
           
         
        
          2646 [21:40:32] <piratepete> unborn: the wife says I need to read
            the instructions everytime
           
         
        
          2647 [21:40:54] <unborn> sysops does say same piratepete
           
         
        
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          2651 [21:42:12] <jhutchins> Well that's annoying. Installed
            the 64b kernel and now Nvidia won't complete.
           
         
        
          2652 [21:42:35] <jhutchins> Actually, the problem was with dkms.
           
         
        
          2653 [21:42:51] <jhutchins> I presume I need to install some 64b
            headers...
           
         
        
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          2655 [21:44:58] <piratepete> unborn: awesome! chown -R
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2670 [21:58:45] <missmbob> piratepete: i'm right on this
           
         
        
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          2678 [22:04:49] <jhutchins> Well, getting NVIDIA working the first
            time was easy. I guess I've finally found a challenge.
            I'll work on finishing cross-grading to amd64 then return to
            NVIDIA
           
         
        
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          2681 [22:05:26] <somiaj> jhutchins: this a 64 bit kernel in a
            32bit userland?
           
         
        
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          2938 [22:21:05] <decuser> I'm getting fond of zfs these days
            through using fbsd. Is zfs well supported on debian jessie? Can it
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          2940 [22:21:57] <Klaus_Dieter> it works well onmy system as file
            store. not using it as rootfs though
           
         
        
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          2949 [22:24:07] <decuser> Ok. Thx.  
         
        
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          2957 [22:32:59] <Klaus_Dieter> beware of dedup if you have little
            ram
           
         
        
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          3084 [23:10:41] <unborn> guys I am writing post install script for
            my personal debian install.. while testing iso with post-install
            script works awesome I have one issue, while user is on live iso it
            is still asking him for root password.. how to make it just click
            and work? does anyone know?
           
         
        
          3085 [23:10:42] <artificial> Just installed debian, but its not
            detecting my wireless NIC. lspci detects it though.
           
         
        
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          3087 [23:11:52] <unborn> artificial: free or non free?
           
         
        
          3088 [23:12:12] <somiaj> unborn: the live iso's the default
            user has sudo privlages with no password, so just run the command
            with sudo.
           
         
        
          3089 [23:12:14] <unborn> possibly free.. as non free would install
            drivers right a way
           
         
        
          3090 [23:12:29] <x032cx> unborn:did you try admin
           
         
        
          3091 [23:12:32] <artificial> unborn: what do you mean
           
         
        
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          3095 [23:13:20] <unborn> somiaj: thank you. I know for the fact
            that user is presented and password as well.. - for live distro.. im
            just.. let me check if su will do it.. be with me
           
         
        
          3096 [23:13:23] <dontknow> what packages should i install to make
            hexchat to highlight wrong letter. i mean typing correction
           
         
        
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          3098 [23:13:53] <unborn> spellcheck dontknow
           
         
        
          3099 [23:14:20] <unborn> or aspell  
         
        
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          3101 [23:14:58] <unborn> somiaj: rebooting.. sorry for time
            consuming.. I am testing this in vm..
           
         
        
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          3103 [23:15:07] <dontknow> unborn, aspell is installed
           
         
        
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          3105 [23:16:25] <unborn> dontknow: then go to hexchat, click on
            settings, preferences and there in input box check spell checking on
           
         
        
          3106 [23:16:31] <unborn> you should be good to go
           
         
        
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          3111 [23:17:11] <unborn> somiaj: I guess you can gram some
            cigarette as I will need at least 10 minutes to finish dummy
            install.
           
         
        
          3112 [23:17:30] <unborn> re* grab  
         
        
          3113 [23:17:35] <dontknow> unborn, it is checked i set it
            "en_US"
           
         
        
          3114 [23:17:50] <somiaj> unborn: I don't know what you mean
            by live distro, but if using a debian live images, sudo was as far
            as I knew enabled without requiring a password.
           
         
        
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          3116 [23:18:15] <unborn> dontknow: then check if your aspell have
            that language installed
           
         
        
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          3119 [23:19:23] <unborn> dontknow: coz on my end point it does
            works.. mine one is en_gb - language setup system wide... but for
            example in libre office I hate to use us checks otherwise it just
            did not worked.
           
         
        
          3120 [23:21:13] <dontknow> unborn, it doesn2t work for me :/
           
         
        
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          3123 [23:21:54] <linuxgoof> hey guys  
         
        
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          3125 [23:22:09] <linuxgoof> i'm on wheezy trying to update to
            jessie but i'm having an issue can someone help me out
           
         
        
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          3127 [23:23:04] <unborn> somiaj: okay, iso is installed but when
            script started it is still asking me (the end user) for password..
            means it does not work. what I am trying to achieve is debian
            install for 60+ of my family members to give them some settings and
            packages right once debian netinstall is done. I figured out how to
            do all things like bookmarks in nautilus with all passwords etc..
            even vpn but still want to install gimp and other packages, but
            without asking for
           
         
        
          3128 [23:23:04] <unborn> root password while they are in live
            dvd/cd.
           
         
        
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          3130 [23:23:35] <x032cx> am still running potato maybe i should
            upgrade to wheezy
           
         
        
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          3132 [23:23:48] <linuxgoof> lol  
         
        
          3133 [23:23:52] <bazhang> potato?  
         
        
          3134 [23:24:01] <unborn> somiaj: perhaps it involve more deeper
            knowledge or something? - it would be just easier to give them
            install.sh script isn't it?
           
         
        
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          3136 [23:24:45] <unborn> dontknow: what version of debian you are
            running?
           
         
        
          3137 [23:24:50] <linuxgoof> i'm getting a dpkg: error
            processing archive
            /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_215-17+deb8u6_powerpc.deb (--unpack):
            subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
           
         
        
          3138 [23:25:04] <linuxgoof> don't know why or how to fix
           
         
        
          3139 [23:25:23] <linuxgoof> results in a Errors were encountered
            while processing:
           
         
        
          3140 [23:25:23] <linuxgoof>
            /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_215-17+deb8u6_powerpc.deb
           
         
        
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          3142 [23:25:36] <dontknow> unborn, jessie. i installed
            "enchant" package. i think it should work now. maybe i
            need to restart hexchat
           
         
        
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          3147 [23:26:19] <towo`> linuxgoof, have you tryed apt-get -f
            install?
           
         
        
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          3154 [23:27:04] <dontknow> yeah it works now
           
         
        
          3155 [23:27:10] <unborn> dontknow: perhaps.. I use only free
            version.. heck Ive seen non free version but nothing like enchant
            package.. oh you mean hexchat? - well I only use standard packages
            from debian repos.. they always work man :)
           
         
        
          3156 [23:27:13] <dontknow> unborn, it works now
           
         
        
          3157 [23:27:38] <unborn> dontknow: after restart? so - aspell was
            correct one
           
         
        
          3158 [23:27:48] <unborn> ...restart of hexchat
           
         
        
          3159 [23:28:02] <dontknow> unborn, i installed "enchant"
            package and restarted hexchat
           
         
        
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          3161 [23:28:32] <linuxgoof> oh wait do i have to reboot with the
            new kernel before updating the distro
           
         
        
          3162 [23:28:33] <somiaj> unborn: what live cd/dvd are you talking
            about?
           
         
        
          3163 [23:28:40] <unborn> dontknow: yes I did get it in end of my
            slow understanding process.. sorry for that. well - enjoy ;)
           
         
        
          3164 [23:28:45] <unborn> somiaj: jessie  
         
        
          3165 [23:29:13] <somiaj> the live cd should give the main user
            sudo privlages without a password, at least that was the way it
            worked last time I checked.
           
         
        
          3166 [23:29:14] <towo`> linuxgoof, it's a bad idea to reboot
            in the middle of a unfinished update
           
         
        
          3167 [23:29:22] <unborn> somiaj: I am creating live dvd for my mom
            and father and brother....
           
         
        
          3168 [23:29:25] <somiaj> but if you are running a script inside
            the chroot, this is different.
           
         
        
          3169 [23:29:51] <bazhang> !potato to wheezy
           
         
        
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          3171 [23:30:07] <unborn> somiaj: yes that is what I said, however
            I would like to have them to install some stuff after they log into
            the system after fresh install
           
         
        
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          3174 [23:30:25] <somiaj> bazhang: it is release1->release2 and
            you can't skip releases in the upgrade, so you'll have to
            go through every release between potato and wheezy
           
         
        
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          3178 [23:30:57] <somiaj> unborn: in that case they will have to
            run the script as root, you could just set up sudo privagles with no
            password if you wanted.
           
         
        
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          3180 [23:31:06] <bazhang> somiaj, right, someone just claimed to
            be running potato here
           
         
        
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          3183 [23:31:34] <somiaj> unborn: and in this case the fact you
            installed off a live cd is of no relivance. You are not running
            inside a live cd so no need to keep mentioning it as it confuses the
            issue.
           
         
        
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          3185 [23:31:48] <unborn> somiaj: aha! heh I just had that moment
            of aha.. its working correctly! I just forgot that after install...
            it all works, script is launched and of course it have to ask for
            root password, its not a live dvd any more.. meh
           
         
        
          3186 [23:32:00] * unborn hides in shame in corner
           
         
        
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          3188 [23:32:53] <unborn> somiaj: I just realised that.. perhaps I
            was working too much today.. sorry. you was right from right of the
            start of our convo.
           
         
        
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          3190 [23:34:36] <unborn> oh man I love debian :)
           
         
        
          3191 [23:34:43] <x032cx> bazhang:what is wrong with bring an old
            debian sys to life
           
         
        
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          3197 [23:37:27] <unborn> somiaj: thank you very much for helping
            me to realise my mistake!
           
         
        
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          3208 [23:43:34] <unborn> bazhang: ..why are you trolling? there is
            no need for it.
           
         
        
          3209 [23:44:02] <bazhang> unborn, someone else asked about it,
            scroll up
           
         
        
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          3212 [23:44:58] <unborn> bazhang: plonk  
         
        
          3213 [23:45:28] <unborn> scroll your self out there.. please dont
            spam
           
         
        
          3214 [23:45:48] <bazhang> unborn, let's leave it be
           
         
        
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          3232 [23:53:47] <artificial> I changed my sources to stretch, but
            after running update and upgrade. Nothing changed. 0 packets were
            upgraded.
           
         
        
          3233 [23:54:14] <towo`> because you need dist-upgrade instead of
            upgrade
           
         
        
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          3235 [23:54:22] <artificial> I did that  
         
        
          3236 [23:54:29] <unborn> piratepete: glat to helped you and as you
            said wife or not always read the mans ;) enjoy your wordpress
           
         
        
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          3239 [23:54:52] <unborn> jhutchins: are you on i3 or 6?
           
         
        
          3240 [23:55:14] <unborn> i mean i386 or 64 ? I had issues on i386
           
         
        
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          3243 [23:56:56] <unborn> when on 64bit I was able to make my
            quadro grfs working but it was not good for me.. vlc was freezing
            and all other sort of issues.. so I did changed my laptop for more
            friendly hardware but perhaps your gfcs is fully supported
           
         
        
          3244 [23:57:16] <towo`> artificial, you did what?
           
         
        
          3245 [23:57:22] <unborn> artificial: you did what?
           
         
        
          3246 [23:57:51] <unborn> artificial: if you installed as towo`
            said, you would not need to touch sources.. what are you saying?
           
         
        
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          3248 [23:58:40] <artificial> towo`: unborn I changed sources.list
            from jessie to stretch. Ran apt-get update && apt-get
            dist-upgrade. Yet no packages were upgraded.
           
         
        
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          3250 [23:58:45] <unborn> I mean if you installed from netinstall..
            if you done just update to your respos list, you need dist-upgrade
           
         
        
          3251 [23:59:12] <unborn> artificial: did you run dist-upgrade
            before those other commands?
           
         
        
          3252 [23:59:30] <towo`> artificial, provide the output of
            apt-cache policy on a pastebin
           
         
        
          3253 [23:59:49] <unborn> artificial: ^^^  
         
        
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