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          16 [00:07:02] <yep> hello  
         
        
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          18 [00:07:34] <yep> i have follow this
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          19 [00:07:40] <yep> someone can help me ?
           
         
        
          20 [00:08:12] <rotaticus> netzach: aloo_shu: correct! choose
            your destiny
           
         
        
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          46 [00:17:14] <aloo_shu> rotaticus I just looked up debian-live
            project, but that seemed changed. I seem to remember detailed
            information on setting up various degrees of persistence for your
            own use, now it seems geared only towards producing live images
           
         
        
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          58 [00:21:59] <aloo_shu> rotaticus the best out of the box
            design for permanently running linux from a pendrive I have used,
            was puppy linux. would it have been unpolite or otherwise uncool to
            point him there?
           
         
        
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          62 [00:24:51] <rotaticus> aloo_shu: sry never used persistence
            ... i personally dislike the idea of putting my os to an usb/flash ,
            but thats not my decision
           
         
        
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          65 [00:27:53] <rotaticus> err the most usb sticks i've seen
            are older than ssd drives which, hopefully is the best choice of
            location for my os
           
         
        
          66 [00:28:45] <aloo_shu> that, in turn, is what I have never
            laid hand on (SSD)
           
         
        
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          71 [00:31:28] <aloo_shu> but making the most of live, the entire
            os gets copied to ram, that's very fast, too, after boot.
           
         
        
          72 [00:32:05] <rotaticus> yes copy to ram is the way for modern
            live-disks
           
         
        
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          74 [00:33:04] <aloo_shu> I'd have thought some swapping in
            and out to be going on for a full desktop like debian
           
         
        
          75 [00:33:33] <aloo_shu> if a desktop you run, of course
           
         
        
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          79 [00:34:40] <rotaticus> everybody should have enough ram by
            the time .... i myself hang on *VERY* low end machines, but i like
            the terminal ... coming from nw-dos long ago
           
         
        
          80 [00:34:52] <aloo_shu> the emphasis was on *entire* . puppy
            does that
           
         
        
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          92 [00:36:15] <aloo_shu> but with 200MB images. trimming fat is
            the term they use
           
         
        
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          102 [00:37:29] <rotaticus> been there, had to install all that
            ubuntu %$&(££&% , didn't like it ... always
            has my comparison debian done better
           
         
        
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          105 [00:37:46] <rotaticus> 200MB thats tiny indeed
           
         
        
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          107 [00:37:56] <aloo_shu> rotaticus, what is *VERY* low end for
            you?
           
         
        
          108 [00:38:11] <rotaticus> 380mhz  
         
        
          109 [00:38:24] <aloo_shu> you have slackware based puppy, too
           
         
        
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          112 [00:39:43] <aloo_shu> but anyway, you can take any puppy to
            study a sound from usb stick or even nested in ntfs - approach
           
         
        
          113 [00:40:52] <rotaticus> over the years i think i've grow
            used to debian ... it all felt consistent ... hope stretch gets
            there too
           
         
        
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          115 [00:41:01] <aloo_shu> 380mhz you beat me by lengths. I have
            an old thinkpad of that spec, but won't boot
           
         
        
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          117 [00:42:12] <aloo_shu> etch was when I felt most at home with
            debian
           
         
        
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          119 [00:42:39] <rotaticus> aloo_shu: its an eee pc 701 cpufreqd
            to 380 to avoid tteemperature problems ... 900mhz is the spec of cpu
            ... it comes throttled to 600 ... still temperature
           
         
        
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          121 [00:43:41] <aloo_shu> great idea in fact. might try that on a
            ;hot' laptop I have
           
         
        
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          123 [00:43:49] <rotaticus> i only use that box to ssh to my
            bananapipro that runs irssi all day long
           
         
        
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          125 [00:44:25] <rotaticus> name ONE cool laptop
           
         
        
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          129 [00:45:41] <aloo_shu> have an old dell inspiron 1300. looks
            like a tank, aesthetically, but there is space in that box
           
         
        
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          131 [00:46:59] <rotaticus> if it takes like a tank ... no problem
            with me. aesthetics dont compile
           
         
        
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          134 [00:47:39] <aloo_shu> old toshiba satellite , similar
           
         
        
          135 [00:48:44] <aloo_shu> pre 2000, the latter
           
         
        
          136 [00:48:47] <rotaticus> imho all laptop have cooling issues,
            i've never seen a cool one ... they were at best "not
            awful hot"
           
         
        
          137 [00:49:43] <rotaticus> even the transmeta one ... the one
            linus made ... glowing red
           
         
        
          138 [00:49:55] <aloo_shu> right, and downclocking is a good idea.
            was a key to early iDevice longevity
           
         
        
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          141 [00:51:07] <aloo_shu> laptops are quasi mandatory for me
            since I'm on limited solar power
           
         
        
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          146 [00:52:16] <th0r> aloo_shu, I ran two servers and a desktop
            off 100w solar on my sailboat 24/7
           
         
        
          147 [00:52:35] <shtrb> th0r , with what kind of power bank ?
           
         
        
          148 [00:52:54] <rotaticus> that sounds awesome :D got some nice
            batterymonitoring running ... there was uninterrupted voltage suply
            daemons
           
         
        
          149 [00:52:58] <shtrb> solar panel size without the size of the
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          150 [00:53:03] <th0r> aloo_shu, 2 group 27 batteries, although I
            kept one aside to start the motor.
           
         
        
          151 [00:53:26] <th0r> aloo_shu, they were all raspberry pi
            3....xfce on the desktop, samba on the servers
           
         
        
          152 [00:53:32] <shtrb> th0r , that sound like a small fortuine
            (need replacement every two years)
           
         
        
          153 [00:53:34] <rotaticus> ha powerbank ... an average anker runs
            my bananapi a week :) thats 4*18650
           
         
        
          154 [00:53:49] <aloo_shu> th0r , more sun at sea, and just 75W
            nominal here
           
         
        
          155 [00:53:52] <th0r> shtrb, two group 27's cost about $180
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          156 [00:54:19] <shtrb> th0r , I thought you have something like a
            100 ah deep cycle
           
         
        
          157 [00:54:23] <th0r> shtrb, and I did replace them every two
            years, but could have gone longer.
           
         
        
          158 [00:54:36] <shtrb> or the standard ~40 something
           
         
        
          159 [00:54:41] <th0r> shtrb, group 27's are about 90 AH each
           
         
        
          160 [00:55:01] <th0r> shtrb, and they cost me right at $90 a
            piece last time I replaced them.
           
         
        
          161 [00:55:04] <shtrb> $180 for 27 90 AH ?!
           
         
        
          162 [00:55:16] <shtrb> deepcycle or car type ?
           
         
        
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          164 [00:55:20] <th0r> shtrb, TWO group 27's
           
         
        
          165 [00:55:25] <th0r> deep cycle  
         
        
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          168 [00:55:40] <shtrb> lets move to offtopic
           
         
        
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          170 [00:56:32] <aloo_shu> th0r , but if 1 or more raspberries
            made it my way, I wouldn't complain. I'm a no budget man,
            but there is a nice not yet overrun marina nearby. an island in east
            atlantic
           
         
        
          171 [00:56:58] <th0r> aloo_shu, moved to debian-offtopic
           
         
        
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          176 [01:00:19] <aloo_shu> rotaticus, you come (debian-offtopic)?
           
         
        
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          179 [01:01:11] <rotaticus> aloo_shu: ok ;)
           
         
        
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          188 [01:05:06] <Lugh> Hi! I'm going to by a new computer and
            I want to install Debian in it. But someone has told me that UEFI
            has proprietary and closed source firmware! Is this true?? Is this
            is true, what is the point of using an open source OS (like Debian)
            if you are running it on a machine with closed source firmware?
           
         
        
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          191 [01:06:49] <Lugh> Why bother locking my front door when an
            attacker can just break the windows?
           
         
        
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          202 [01:12:33] <ChmEarl> Lugh, your bios may give you a choice
            for UEFI or legacy boot
           
         
        
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          207 [01:14:44] <Lugh> ChmEarl: Or may not... And support for
            legacy boot is disappearing... soon it will be only a memory of the
            past...
           
         
        
          208 [01:14:52] <abrotman> !uefi  
         
        
          209 [01:14:53] <dpkg> Unified Extensible Firmware Interface
            (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace
            the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" and
            later releases support installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC
            systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported.
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          217 [01:16:59] <Lugh> abrotman: I know that... and that's
            the problem. The present and future is UEFI. But if UEFI is indeed
            closed source, why using Debian? Running trusted code on untrusted
            firmware will make code execution untrusted! I want security and
            privacy. If UEFI firmware is closed source how can I get security
            and privacy? And why use Debian?
           
         
        
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          219 [01:18:09] <Lugh> And why Debian accepts to run on closed
            source firmware?! That totally destroys the reason to use an open
            source OP.
           
         
        
          220 [01:20:29] <Lugh> Also I want to install Debian with
            encrypted partitions (dm-crypt / cryptsetup). But if UEFI is indeed
            closed source it would be stupid to have encrypted partitions,
            because anyone could break them, starting with the corporations who
            make the UEFI firmware! Right?
           
         
        
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          245 [01:36:37] <Henry151> Hi #debian :) I'm experiencing
            some problems with Thunderbird/Enigmail/Gnupg and I found my way to
            this bug report:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          246 [01:36:38] <judd> Bug
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          249 [01:37:35] <Henry151> Basically, all I know for certain so
            far is that when I try to sign/encrypt a message using thunderbird,
            it says "no private key" -- I haven't confirmed that
            my issue is caused by this bug, I just suspect it.
           
         
        
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          251 [01:37:57] <Henry151> I have confirmed that I have the
            private key, and that I'm able to encrypt/decrypt messages
            manually on the command line with gnupg.
           
         
        
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          257 [01:40:10] <AlexLikeRock> hi  
         
        
          258 [01:40:17] <Henry151> hi AlexLikeRock
           
         
        
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          261 [01:44:19] <AlexLikeRock> hi  
         
        
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          277 [01:57:51] <maxcell_> damm, help me out here, i just install
            debian stretch and i didn't remember how to chose between
            desktop managers. There is a command that do that like tasksell but
            i didn't remember
           
         
        
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          283 [02:00:42] <rotaticus> maxcell_: aptitude search task- should
            lead the direction i dont know the exact name
           
         
        
          284 [02:00:59] <maxcell_> it isn't tasksel
           
         
        
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          289 [02:01:56] <rotaticus> its task-kde for example
           
         
        
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          291 [02:03:35] <maxcell_> it isn't its a simple command that
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          293 [02:04:09] <maxcell_> it popups up a screen and you simply
            select the desktop manager you want between those you already have.
            Like on the installation
           
         
        
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          295 [02:04:51] <maxcell_> brb  
         
        
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          342 [02:29:55] <Henry151> so, I'm going to go poke my head
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          343 [02:30:07] <Henry151> unless somebody around here wants to
            give me a hand
           
         
        
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          385 [02:55:25] <maxcell_> i've installed gnome-shell and kde
            in Debian net install. How can i remove gnome-shell with default
            apps that comes with him?
           
         
        
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          399 [03:00:59] <teo_> sameone can told me how can Add
            "contrib" and "non-free" components to
            /etc/apt/sources.list?
           
         
        
          400 [03:01:16] <maxcell_> you just edit it
           
         
        
          401 [03:01:36] <maxcell_> and put contrib non-free after
            "main"
           
         
        
          402 [03:01:41] <maxcell_> before*  
         
        
          403 [03:01:46] <juon> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
           
         
        
          404 [03:01:55] <maxcell_> debian.org main contrib non-free - save
           
         
        
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          407 [03:03:15] <teo_> nano and gedit is the same ?
           
         
        
          408 [03:03:16] <maxcell_> How can i uninstall gnome-shell meta
            package along with all app's it installed by default. I'm
            in a fresh installed debian 9.
           
         
        
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          410 [03:03:59] <juon> teo, it's the same, it's your
            choice
           
         
        
          411 [03:04:02] <juon> I'm like nano  
         
        
          412 [03:04:07] <teo_> ok  
         
        
          413 [03:04:15] <maxcell_> you need to be root tho
           
         
        
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          416 [03:04:36] <juon> teo_, yes, you can. but it's a system
            file
           
         
        
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          418 [03:05:27] <maxcell_> How can i remove the meta package that
            install gnome-shell along with gtk app's in the
            debian-netinstall?
           
         
        
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          427 [03:08:08] <teo_> have someone acer aspire 1705 laptop with
            nvidia fx gforce 5600 ?
           
         
        
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          429 [03:09:07] <maxcell_> i think i'm going to reinstall
            debian from scretch
           
         
        
          430 [03:09:18] <maxcell_> because i can't remove a
            metapackage haha
           
         
        
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          436 [03:12:38] <maxcell_> How is the name of the metapackage that
            installs gnome-shell in debian-installer and how can i remove
            gnome-shell and everything that comes with him during the
            installation?
           
         
        
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          438 [03:13:52] <juon> teo_, look  
         
        
          439 [03:13:57] <juon> teo_,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          440 [03:14:40] <teo_> i see  
         
        
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          443 [03:15:31] <maxcell_> teo_, if you have any doubts just ask
            we can help you
           
         
        
          444 [03:15:57] <teo_> ok  
         
        
          445 [03:16:21] <teo_> how can i speak with whisper here ?
           
         
        
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          450 [03:17:21] <juon> teo_, What is whisper ?
           
         
        
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          452 [03:18:01] <teo_> a massage only to someone, not to all
           
         
        
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          455 [03:18:37] <teo_> it dident ?  
         
        
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          458 [03:19:43] <niriven> Debian 9, perfect! Been running linux
            since 1999 and first time ever I just installed a distro and
            everything works out of the box :)
           
         
        
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          460 [03:22:52] <juon> teo_, You can that you want
           
         
        
          461 [03:22:57] <abrotman> max-m: probably
           
         
        
          462 [03:23:01] <abrotman> max-m: probably "gnome"
           
         
        
          463 [03:23:05] <abrotman> oh, he left  
         
        
          464 [03:23:10] <abrotman> max-m: sorry, mistab, apologies
           
         
        
          465 [03:23:20] <juon> niriven, I think Debian 9, very good, too.
           
         
        
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          480 [03:29:20] <rpw> Debian rocks. Just installed headless debian
            9
           
         
        
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          500 [03:43:19] <teo_> how can i make enable the nouveau
            blacklist?
           
         
        
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          512 [03:51:05] <Henry151> hi debian  
         
        
          513 [03:51:23] <Henry151> I'm here
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          514 [03:51:30] <Henry151> I have symptoms that match with the
            third item on the page
           
         
        
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          516 [03:52:25] <Henry151> however, when I run pinentry in a
            terminal, I get
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          519 [03:54:11] <Henry151> anybody understand what that means?
           
         
        
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          524 [03:59:53] <dvs> What package is kdm in now? Or did they
            rename it to something else?
           
         
        
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          568 [04:27:04] <templar> Hello  
         
        
          569 [04:27:12] <templar> I am Templar  
         
        
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          574 [04:29:17] <templar> Oh hi  
         
        
          575 [04:29:19] <templar> New peeps  
         
        
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          583 [04:32:30] <templar> O  
         
        
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          586 [04:33:51] <ani-> templar, #debian-offtopic
           
         
        
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          688 [05:24:15] <rjsalts> dvs: there is no kdm anymore
           
         
        
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          690 [05:24:35] <rjsalts> dvs: it's been replaced with
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          692 [05:25:07] <dvs> ???  
         
        
          693 [05:25:41] <rjsalts> dvs: sorry display manager
           
         
        
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          695 [05:25:49] <dvs> wow, I just installed lightdm-kde-greeter
           
         
        
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          697 [05:26:07] <rjsalts> dvs: you're talking about
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          698 [05:26:15] <dvs> yes  
         
        
          699 [05:26:31] <dvs> That's a strange thing to get rid of
           
         
        
          700 [05:26:44] <rjsalts> dvs:
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          701 [05:27:11] <rjsalts> its even  
         
        
          702 [05:27:34] <dvs> alright, thanks  
         
        
          703 [05:27:37] <rjsalts> dvs:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          707 [05:30:15] <rjsalts> dvs: so basically it sounds like some
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          711 [05:31:26] <dvs> rjsalts, That sounds reasonable but to give
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          714 [05:33:39] <rjsalts> yeah, I had to do a bit of research when
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          755 [05:53:28] <maxcell_> what package i need to enable vdpau as
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          760 [05:57:21] <maxcell_> how do i see the comments about a
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          765 [06:00:30] <nkuttler> maxcell_: apt-cache show pkg
           
         
        
          766 [06:00:47] <nkuttler> maxcell_: see also apt-cache search
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          768 [06:02:11] <maxcell_> nkuttler, thanks, to be able to enable
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          773 [06:04:11] <maxcell_> nkuttler, nvm i already have it working
           
         
        
          774 [06:05:03] <maxcell_> just wonder how i can do to make vdpau
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          785 [06:12:34] <AN0NYM> is here a freenode IRC admin online?
           
         
        
          786 [06:13:13] <|N|> AN0NYM: join #freenode
           
         
        
          787 [06:13:35] <|N|> this is a debian channel
           
         
        
          788 [06:13:54] <|N|> for freenode server specific helps,join
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          798 [06:23:05] <jojoba> hey there  
         
        
          799 [06:23:07] <preview> I'm having issues with a virtual
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          801 [06:23:11] <preview> "qtbase-abi-5-7-1"
           
         
        
          802 [06:23:35] <rjsalts> preview: in buster/unstable?
           
         
        
          803 [06:23:44] <preview> uh not as far as I can see
           
         
        
          804 [06:23:52] <preview> running unstable atm
           
         
        
          805 [06:23:53] <jojoba> how to change dconf profile on the fly?
           
         
        
          806 [06:24:08] <preview> something borked a bunch of my apps
           
         
        
          807 [06:24:10] <rjsalts> preview: it's in transition
           
         
        
          808 [06:24:20] <preview> how do I install it?
           
         
        
          809 [06:24:24] <preview> rjsalts:  
         
        
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          811 [06:25:56] <rjsalts> preview: You could check /var/cache/apt
            for old .deb files, or snapshot.debian.org if it's not there
            anymore. The folks on #debian-next oftc might have other ideas
           
         
        
          812 [06:26:08] <preview> thanks  
         
        
          813 [06:26:19] <maxcell_> how can i get rid screen tearing while
            watching movies on debian9/kde/nvidia?
           
         
        
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          815 [06:26:50] <maxcell_> that's dramaticly bad
           
         
        
          816 [06:28:12] <preview> coincidentally I also have that problem
           
         
        
          817 [06:28:46] <maxcell_> just copying the video to windows
            partition
           
         
        
          818 [06:28:59] <maxcell_> fcking shit  
         
        
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          823 [06:30:15] <maxcell_> bye  
         
        
          824 [06:30:19] <preview> rip  
         
        
          825 [06:30:25] <preview> I'd just watch the thing
           
         
        
          826 [06:30:31] <maxcell_> i can't  
         
        
          827 [06:30:36] <maxcell_> thats terrible  
         
        
          828 [06:30:53] <preview> rjsalts: no file in cache, and nothing
            on snapshots
           
         
        
          829 [06:31:01] <preview> will ask on debian-next
           
         
        
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          970 [08:08:21] <Henry151> so, I really want to have a phone I can
            trust
           
         
        
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          973 [08:09:04] <Henry151> I feel like I can trust my laptop,
            because it's running debian, no flash, got noscript in firefox,
            it's an older piece of hardware, and the only non-free drivers
            it needs are for the wifi card.
           
         
        
          974 [08:09:36] <Henry151> no mountains of proprietary garbage
            that could have all kinds of NSA backdoors or what-have-you.
           
         
        
          975 [08:09:51] <Henry151> So what can I do to get my phone to be
            trustworthy too?
           
         
        
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          980 [08:13:43] <iodev> Henry151: any nexus
           
         
        
          981 [08:14:56] <Henry151> iodev: and then what do I run on it?
           
         
        
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          983 [08:15:17] <iodev> custom built android
           
         
        
          984 [08:15:30] <iodev> or lineage  
         
        
          985 [08:16:00] <XeonSquared> lineage + no google is nice
           
         
        
          986 [08:16:43] <iodev> Henry151: just don't install google
            apps
           
         
        
          987 [08:17:08] <iodev> and use F-Droid  
         
        
          988 [08:18:09] <garyb_uk> Problem is the cell modems have
            proprietary drivers / closed blobs to make them work, so
            fundamentally a phone shouldn't be trusted.
           
         
        
          989 [08:18:24] <Henry151> I'm seeing the name
            "nexus" on phones made by LG, Motorola, Huwaei, and Asus
            .. forgive my ignorance but I don't know which you're
            referring to
           
         
        
          990 [08:18:37] <Henry151> garyb_uk: that's the problem
           
         
        
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          992 [08:18:40] <iodev> Henry151: any nexus, Nexus = no bloat
           
         
        
          993 [08:18:52] <iodev> but it's not full open source
           
         
        
          994 [08:18:59] <Henry151> hm.  
         
        
          995 [08:19:00] <XeonSquared> Some non-Nexus Motorola models are
            the same
           
         
        
          996 [08:19:15] <XeonSquared> But you won't get a phone with
            fully libre firmware and software
           
         
        
          997 [08:19:42] <iodev> XeonSquared: there is no such thing (that
            is mass produced anyway)
           
         
        
          998 [08:19:45] <Henry151> I'm currently running a Samsung
            Note 4. but if I can't get fully libre firmware and software,
            than I'm not sure if I want to bother investing in a new phone
            and trying to go that way
           
         
        
          999 [08:20:00] <iodev> no, just get a custom rom Henry151
           
         
        
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          1004 [08:21:51] <Henry151> I mean maybe I'm foolish for
            thinking so, but I figure that the NSA can't watch my
            keystrokes or my screen, and that if I use a VPN or tor, I can
            confidently browse the internet knowing that I'm not being
            watched, on my debian on this Panasonic Toughbook CF-30
           
         
        
          1005 [08:22:21] <Henry151> but I assume that they can look through
            my camera and listen to the microphone on my cellphone anytime they
            want
           
         
        
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          1007 [08:22:26] <Henry151> and I'd like to not feel that way.
           
         
        
          1008 [08:22:57] <XeonSquared> You can minimize the surface of such
            things, but you won't get it totally safe
           
         
        
          1009 [08:23:07] <Haohmaru> if they can hear you breathing, they
            can obtain the keystrokes just from that ;P~
           
         
        
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          1011 [08:23:24] <Henry151> lol  
         
        
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          1013 [08:24:02] <Henry151> did you guys hear about that exploit
            that used the led light on the front of desktops (the hdd access
            light) to transmit data out of a computer that's not
            network-connected?
           
         
        
          1014 [08:24:22] <Henry151> it was like, if you get the malware
            into the computer, by infecting a usb thumb drive or something
           
         
        
          1015 [08:24:41] <Henry151> then it can transmit data back out,
            using that flashing light, if you can get a camera trained on it
            through a window from across the street or wherever
           
         
        
          1016 [08:24:50] <Henry151> crazy stuff  
         
        
          1017 [08:25:19] <Haohmaru> the bitrate would have to be very slow
           
         
        
          1018 [08:25:22] <Henry151> I heard there are ways to use the
            speakers to transmit data in a spectrum that can't be heard by
            the human ear, as well
           
         
        
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          1020 [08:25:43] <Haohmaru> sure  
         
        
          1021 [08:25:55] <Henry151>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1022 [08:26:25] <Henry151> "the researchers found they could
            move data as fast as 4,000 bits a second, or close to a megabyte
            every half hour"
           
         
        
          1023 [08:26:44] <Henry151> that's almost as fast as my
            internet connection XD
           
         
        
          1024 [08:26:54] <Henry151> /exaggeration  
         
        
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          1026 [08:27:43] <Henry151> i hate wired, sorry for the bad source
            link
           
         
        
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          1028 [08:28:05] <Henry151> wired has declared that bitcoin is dead
            three times now; I stopped reading them after the first time
           
         
        
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          1030 [08:28:41] <Haohmaru> "We found that the small hard
            drive indicator LED can be controlled at up to 6,000 blinks per
            second."
           
         
        
          1031 [08:29:15] <Haohmaru> yeah, you just need a 12000fps slowmo
            camera on that drone and you're good to go
           
         
        
          1032 [08:30:18] <Henry151> i can just imagine all the james-bond
            mission-impossible situations where this would actually be
            useful/used
           
         
        
          1033 [08:30:59] <Henry151> I'd be willing to gamble that
            nobody has ever used that technique for any actual theft of any
            actual data
           
         
        
          1034 [08:32:20] <garyb_uk> someone should reverse malware by
            creating a controller that blinks some malicious code back to
            whoever is snooping :)
           
         
        
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          1036 [08:32:42] <Haohmaru> muhaha  
         
        
          1037 [08:33:29] <Haohmaru> imma put an xmas tree next to my
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          1039 [08:34:57] <Haohmaru> you could pimp up your LED with a
            capacitor, it'll get rid of very short blinks
           
         
        
          1040 [08:35:09] <Henry151> back on debian topic; i'm running
            i3 and the little indicator says "no IPv6" ... why would
            that be?
           
         
        
          1041 [08:35:17] <Haohmaru> and will also effectively limit the
            eventual bitrate
           
         
        
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          1043 [08:35:50] <Henry151> i mean i realize it would indicate that
            i'm not connected with ipv6
           
         
        
          1044 [08:35:54] <Henry151> but why not?  
         
        
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          1066 [08:52:14] <amdp> hi, I have a question about apt-get if this
            is the wrong channel please advise the right one. Question: command
            option "apt-get -y" will eventually say yes to removing
            old configuration files and installing updated versions? Like when
            updating php or mysql will it say "yes" and remove the old
            configuration even if default is "no"?
           
         
        
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          1085 [09:04:57] <rpd_> amdp: not too sure but default dpkg
            configuration in debian prevents overwriting of current
            configuration files if they differ from the new configuration, even
            with 'apt-get install -y ...' as far as I know, but do
            check again in debian manuals...
           
         
        
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          1094 [09:12:54] <Haohmaru> for a reason, i need an older version
            of a certain program, but i only see the newest version in synaptic
           
         
        
          1095 [09:13:35] <Haohmaru> does that mean i have to build it
            myself?
           
         
        
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          1098 [09:15:26] <nku> Haohmaru: probably.  
         
        
          1099 [09:15:54] <Haohmaru> oh well  
         
        
          1100 [09:16:17] <Haohmaru> then i'd build the new version
            directly
           
         
        
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          1105 [09:19:26] <s0nH4cK> Haohmaru: did you tried apt-get
            package=version?
           
         
        
          1106 [09:19:56] <Haohmaru> uh, nope.. i try to use synaptic
           
         
        
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          1109 [09:20:39] <s0nH4cK> apt-get install package=version, sorry
           
         
        
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          1119 [09:25:16] <Haohmaru> s0nH4cK, do i have to uninstall the
            current version before trying that out?
           
         
        
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          1121 [09:26:41] <s0nH4cK> probably... anyway, apt-get will guide
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            will prompt
           
         
        
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          1123 [09:28:23] <Haohmaru> nope, says it can't find it (but
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          1130 [09:31:47] <Haohmaru> gotta leave this for another time
           
         
        
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          1152 [09:40:59] <ee1> Hey boys. How do I proxify all my traffic
            threw one certain proxy? Any easy method to just implement in debian
            rather than on the browser? :)
           
         
        
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          1156 [09:41:15] <medusaXX> Hi  
         
        
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          1160 [09:42:13] <medusaXX> I'm looking for an easy way to
            reenable TLS 1.0 + 1.1 on testing...
           
         
        
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          1166 [09:44:20] <rudi_s> medusaXX: Recompile the package I guess.
           
         
        
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          1174 [09:45:57] <Savemech_> Guys, there is no patches for
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1179 [09:46:47] <preview> does anyone have a .deb of
            qtbase-abi-5-7-0? I need it for kde pacakges but it's not
            available online
           
         
        
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          1187 [09:50:00] <medusaXX> rudi_s: I'm not sure whether I
            would count this as "easy"
           
         
        
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          1189 [09:51:22] <medusaXX> Was it actually Kurt Roeckx private
            decision to remove support or were there other people involved?
            can't understand this
           
         
        
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          1194 [09:55:43] <rudi_s> medusaXX: I guess that's the point
            to try to force older implementations to upgrade. - I don't
            know whose decision it was. - Personally I can understand the
            intention (TLS 1.0/1.1 are broken and should be replaced) but I
            don't like this being forced on all users who often don't
            have a choice to decide which servers they talk to.
           
         
        
          1195 [09:56:16] <rudi_s> If you want to change it back, comment in
            an existing bug report for libssl or create a new one if none
            exists.
           
         
        
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          1198 [09:57:50] <jelly> judd: whatprovides qtbase-abi-5-7-0
           
         
        
          1199 [09:57:52] <judd> No packages provide
            'qtbase-abi-5-7-0' in stretch/amd64.
           
         
        
          1200 [09:58:05] <jelly> preview: which debian release is that
            supposed to come from
           
         
        
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          1202 [09:58:09] <medusaXX> That's the point. Users now miss
            emails and have all sorts of other hazzle because someone decides to
            be the ssl superhero
           
         
        
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          1205 [09:58:44] <medusaXX> I'll fill in that report, thanks
            for the advice
           
         
        
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          1211 [10:01:35] <jelly> preview: which debian release do you have
            installed? that does not seem to be provided by any package in
            stretch
           
         
        
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          1216 [10:03:36] <rudi_s> Savemech: Patches?
           
         
        
          1217 [10:03:44] <rudi_s> What are you looking for.
           
         
        
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          1221 [10:05:19] <preview> jelly: it's meant to come from
            qt5core5a? but I've installed that and packages are still
            trying to get qtbase-abi-x-x-x
           
         
        
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          1243 [10:19:40] <ee1> Hey boys. How do I proxify all my traffic
            threw one certain proxy? Any easy method to just implement in debian
            rather than on the browser?
           
         
        
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          1246 [10:22:04] <jolt> ee1: I'll give you a starting point:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1249 [10:22:28] <jolt> ee1: Oh, this was just a single box?
           
         
        
          1250 [10:22:50] <xand> that's not gonna work for https though
           
         
        
          1251 [10:23:09] <jolt> True that. Maybe configuration of the
            browser is better anyway
           
         
        
          1252 [10:23:43] <jolt> ee1: Setup a proxy, configure your system
            to use that proxy for all protocols via http_proxy/https_proxy
            variables?
           
         
        
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          1254 [10:24:31] <jelly> preview: again, which debian release do
            you have installed? Seeing as you're asking in #debian-next as
            well
           
         
        
          1255 [10:24:43] <preview> yeah I'm running unstable
           
         
        
          1256 [10:24:46] <preview> jelly:  
         
        
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          1258 [10:24:58] <preview> I was hoping someone would have this
            .deb somewhere
           
         
        
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          1260 [10:25:50] <jelly> preview: it doesn't even exist in
            debian 9 release, where
           
         
        
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          1262 [10:25:57] <jelly> ,provides libqt5core5a
           
         
        
          1263 [10:25:58] <judd> Package libqt5core5a in stretch/amd64
            provides: qtbase-abi-5-7-1.
           
         
        
          1264 [10:26:17] <preview> yes, I have that installed and yet
            plasma-workspace explicitly depends on qtbase-abi
           
         
        
          1265 [10:26:27] <jelly> preview: so you'll probably have to
            dig in somewhere before stretch release
           
         
        
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          1268 [10:26:58] <jelly> or just wait, it's unstable,
            migrations happen
           
         
        
          1269 [10:27:34] <mattgirv> Yeah, I had the same issue on sid a
            couple of weeks back
           
         
        
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          1271 [10:27:46] <mattgirv> was just a repo that hadn't
            updated all related packages at the same time
           
         
        
          1272 [10:28:00] <mattgirv> though that seems less likely with
            Stretch tbf
           
         
        
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          1274 [10:28:48] <jelly> this kind of thing should never happen on
            stable
           
         
        
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          1276 [10:29:13] <mattgirv> Nope, unless you're pulling in
            other repos/mixing and matching, definitely shouldn't happen
            out of the box
           
         
        
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          1278 [10:29:25] <iodev> does debian have spicy (I want to run
            Windows in QEMU)
           
         
        
          1279 [10:30:02] <jelly> iodev: dunno, did you try to: apt-cache
            search spicy
           
         
        
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          1282 [10:32:39] <iodev> jelly: nvm, turns out I should use
            virt-viewer
           
         
        
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          1293 [10:42:33] <ee1> jolt: Yes, just setup a proxy for the system
            to proxify everything I do
           
         
        
          1294 [10:42:57] <iodev> ee1: why proxy?  
         
        
          1295 [10:43:02] <ee1> jolt: That link you sent didn
           
         
        
          1296 [10:43:02] <iodev> why not a vpn?  
         
        
          1297 [10:43:13] <ee1> Faster internet with proxy
           
         
        
          1298 [10:43:18] <preview> jelly: "You have searched for
            packages that names contain qtbase-abi in all suites, all sections,
            and all architectures. " it hoesntly doesn't seem to
            exist?
           
         
        
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          1302 [10:47:25] <ee1> jolt  
         
        
          1303 [10:47:32] <ee1> jolt: That link didnt give me much
           
         
        
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          1307 [10:51:41] <Tracker> hi, I have a problem with 4g usb dongle
            and raspberry pi 3 router with raspian strech.. 4g as ppp0 local lan
            eth0 everything works in normal ipv4 addresses routing iptables has
            nat on and fw rules for allowing packets and denying the rest but
            allowing multicast from all interfaces. i have igmpproxy on and it
            receives the multicast ip maddr show shows multicast addresses found
            eth0 and ppp0 but its not working for finnish watson iptv
           
         
        
          1308 [10:51:57] <Tracker> unicast works when using that same
            watson service..
           
         
        
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          1313 [10:53:03] <will> hello, i just installed debian using the
            DVD#1
           
         
        
          1314 [10:53:18] <will> no wifi capabilities and i tried apt update
           
         
        
          1315 [10:53:21] <Agiofws> hello  
         
        
          1316 [10:53:22] <will> failed  
         
        
          1317 [10:53:36] <apollo13> well, put in a network cable
           
         
        
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          1319 [10:53:45] <apollo13> otherwise apt-update will not like you
            :)
           
         
        
          1320 [10:53:45] <will> thats what im using :)
           
         
        
          1321 [10:53:51] <apollo13> then define "failed"
           
         
        
          1322 [10:54:13] <davidd4y> why did I auto-connect to this channel
            ?
           
         
        
          1323 [10:54:17] <will> E: The repository 'cdrom://[Debian
            GNU/Linux 9.1.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
            20170722-11:31] stretch Release' does not have a Release file.
           
         
        
          1324 [10:54:22] <davidd4y> even I didn't set this chan to be
            autojoin ?
           
         
        
          1325 [10:54:39] <Agiofws> just got a new host at work here its
            hosts windows 10 does this mean thats its gota a new GPT partition?
            and how can i find out? does windows 10 oblige you to have a gpt
            partition instead of an mbr and how friendly is it with debian/linux
           
         
        
          1326 [10:54:56] <apollo13> will: if you no longer want to use the
            dvd, open /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the disk entry
           
         
        
          1327 [10:54:58] <Agiofws> thank you  
         
        
          1328 [10:55:19] <apollo13> Agiofws: afaik yes and gpt is not
            problem for linux
           
         
        
          1329 [10:55:23] <will> im coming from Mint. How come `sudo apt
            update` doesnt work
           
         
        
          1330 [10:55:43] <will> I thought tthat was the same across debian
            based oses
           
         
        
          1331 [10:55:43] <apollo13> will: please read what I wrote
           
         
        
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          1333 [10:55:48] <klys> what is the uefi bootloader for debian?
           
         
        
          1334 [10:55:54] <will> oh  
         
        
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          1336 [10:56:12] <apollo13> klys: whatever grub installs?! :)
           
         
        
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          1338 [10:56:25] <klys> apollo13, grub-efi, you mean?
           
         
        
          1339 [10:56:34] <klys> grub is not uefi compatible.
           
         
        
          1340 [10:56:49] <apollo13> potato potato…
           
         
        
          1341 [10:56:56] <apollo13> it is still "grub" in that
            sense
           
         
        
          1342 [10:57:47] <will> apollo13, commented it out, updated nothing
            and upgraded nothing :(
           
         
        
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          1344 [10:58:38] <will> and tapping on touchpad doesnt work for
            clicking. I have to click the hard button, which is annoying. I was
            hoping apt update would install drivers or something to fix this
           
         
        
          1345 [10:58:48] <will> i really need wifi here:(
           
         
        
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          1347 [10:59:41] <apollo13> will: well for wifi you need to install
            the firmware packages first
           
         
        
          1348 [10:59:47] <apollo13> how does your sources.list look like
            now?
           
         
        
          1349 [10:59:50] <klys> will, deb [arch=amd64,i386]
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1350 [10:59:55] <will> everything is commented out
           
         
        
          1351 [11:00:16] <apollo13> you shouldn't comment everything
            out…
           
         
        
          1352 [11:00:16] <apollo13>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1353 [11:00:36] <apollo13> you want to use the internet sources
            after all :)
           
         
        
          1354 [11:00:43] <will> everything but one line was commented out
            when i opened it
           
         
        
          1355 [11:00:44] <apollo13> and apt update does not install drivers
           
         
        
          1356 [11:00:53] <apollo13> it doesn't install __anything__
           
         
        
          1357 [11:00:58] <will> that one line was the one referring to the
            dvd
           
         
        
          1358 [11:01:02] <apollo13> that is what upgrade is for, and even
            that won't magically install drivers
           
         
        
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          1360 [11:01:10] <apollo13> well then uncomment the other
            deb/deb-src lines
           
         
        
          1361 [11:01:14] <will> sorry i meant upgrade
           
         
        
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          1363 [11:01:50] <apollo13> you probably want your sources.list
            look like the second example in the link that I posted
           
         
        
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          1366 [11:02:42] <will> yay update and upgrade work now
           
         
        
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          1368 [11:02:50] <will> now, about that firmware
           
         
        
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          1371 [11:03:11] <apollo13> figure out what hardware you have and
            install the missing parts accordingly
           
         
        
          1372 [11:03:39] <will> and, apollo13 the installer commented out
            all those other lines bacause "they failed to verify"
           
         
        
          1373 [11:03:45] <will> i installed without internet
           
         
        
          1374 [11:03:49] <will> i guess thats why  
         
        
          1375 [11:03:58] <apollo13> might be  
         
        
          1376 [11:04:12] <apollo13> I usually debootstrap or use a network
            install, so no experience there
           
         
        
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          1378 [11:04:55] <klys> debootsrap fails to get apt installed last
            time I tried it
           
         
        
          1379 [11:05:11] <klys> not that I want to try it again today...
           
         
        
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          1385 [11:06:34] <will> `W: Possible missing firmware
            /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8107e-2.fw for module r8169`
           
         
        
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          1387 [11:06:46] <nadersith> good morning  
         
        
          1388 [11:06:51] <klys> hi  
         
        
          1389 [11:06:56] <will> about 20 lines with similar text. so i go
            look for the relevant files or something?
           
         
        
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          1392 [11:07:32] <babilen> will: Install the firmware-realtek
            package (if you need that firmware, but it might be a false
            positive)
           
         
        
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          1395 [11:07:41] <dokma> I'm getting abysmal write speed from
            my crypto plotter. The plotter is rendering the data at about a GB/s
            but the data gets written at about 5MB/s.
           
         
        
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          1397 [11:08:06] <dokma> If I do dd of=test with a GB it writes at
            about 120MB/s.
           
         
        
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          1399 [11:08:26] <dokma> But with the plotter kworker is constantly
            doing something at about 5MB/s.
           
         
        
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          1401 [11:08:36] <babilen> will: I'd also strongly recommend
            to install either the intel-microcode or amd64-microcode package
            depending on your processor (Intel and AMD respectively)
           
         
        
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          1407 [11:09:34] <vlasy> Hi, is there a way how to install an older
            version of package which is in package repo's "pool"
            but not listed in Packages?
           
         
        
          1408 [11:10:08] <klys> vlasy, dpkg -i file.deb
           
         
        
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          1410 [11:10:35] <babilen> dpkg: tell will -about apt-file
           
         
        
          1411 [11:10:44] <babilen> dpkg: tell will about microcode
           
         
        
          1412 [11:10:51] <vlasy> klys: So wget the deb file and install it
            like this. I know about this solution, just wanted to make sure
            there is no "better practice" in this case
           
         
        
          1413 [11:10:54] <klys> or you can try the flags that the potato
            installer used to use: dpkg -iGREB file.deb
           
         
        
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          1419 [11:14:32] <will> babilen, definitely not a false positive. I
            have no wifi, probably because those are missing
           
         
        
          1420 [11:15:08] <will> if i were to burn the other 2 supplementary
            install dvds to a flash rive, how do i
           
         
        
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          1423 [11:15:20] <will> install all the extra stuff on them
           
         
        
          1424 [11:15:33] <klys> will, what firmware do you need?
           
         
        
          1425 [11:15:35] <babilen> will: Define "extra stuff" ?
           
         
        
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          1429 [11:16:16] <will>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1430 [11:16:21] <babilen> will: I'd recommend to simply get
            your wifi going .. my standard approach would be to install with a
            netinstall installer with firmware, but you could just download the
            firmware-realtek .deb and install it manually with "dpkg
            -i" now
           
         
        
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          1432 [11:16:41] <babilen> You are probably also missing a bunch of
            other network related packages (as you configured the box without
            network)
           
         
        
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          1434 [11:16:47] <babilen> dpkg: firmware image
           
         
        
          1435 [11:16:47] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD
            installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are
            available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1438 [11:17:38] <will> amd64b means 64 bit cpu, not amd rocessor
            right
           
         
        
          1439 [11:17:52] <will> amd64*  
         
        
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          1441 [11:18:42] <rotaticus> correct  
         
        
          1442 [11:19:04] <babilen> will: In the context of microcode or the
            installer?
           
         
        
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          1444 [11:19:30] <will> microcode  
         
        
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          1450 [11:20:51] <babilen> will: The amd64-microcode package
            "contains microcode patches for all AMD AMD64 processors"
            (cf. "apt-cache show amd64-microcode")
           
         
        
          1451 [11:21:00] <klys> will,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1453 [11:21:51] <will> babilen, installed that .deb file. Do i
            need to reboot or anything
           
         
        
          1454 [11:22:19] <babilen> The realtek firmware?
           
         
        
          1455 [11:22:33] <will> and im wondering why in the terminal here,
            sudo apt update does not elevate my user to root like in Mint
           
         
        
          1456 [11:22:42] <will> babilen, yes  
         
        
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          1458 [11:22:48] <klys> will,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1459 [11:22:51] <babilen> Did you configure sudo for your user?
           
         
        
          1460 [11:23:16] <will> no; again, im coming from mint. here i was
            forced to run as su
           
         
        
          1461 [11:23:22] <babilen> will: Reloading the module in question
            might be enough, but a reboot would result in it being reloaded as
            well.
           
         
        
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          1463 [11:23:35] <babilen> will: What is the output of "lspci
            -nn|grep -i network" ?
           
         
        
          1464 [11:23:49] <dokma> I think I figured out the slow write speed
            of the plotter. The plotter preallocates 1TB and then writes huge
            amounts of data all over the 1TB so I assume the low speed is due to
            the heads jumping around all the time...
           
         
        
          1465 [11:23:52] <will> klys, already installed that
           
         
        
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          1467 [11:24:01] <klys> will, yes, then reboot
           
         
        
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          1469 [11:24:19] <babilen> will: You will have to configure sudo if
            you want to use it. The easiest way to achieve "full root"
            for your user is to add it to the "sudo" group with
            "adduser YOURUSER sudo"
           
         
        
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          1471 [11:24:24] <babilen> dpkg: sudoers  
         
        
          1472 [11:24:24] <dpkg> From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"
            onwards, you can grant yourself (minimally secure) root permissions
            for <sudo> by adding yourself to the "sudo" group:
            "adduser your_username sudo". See the man pages indicated
            by "apropos sudo" for more information.
           
         
        
          1473 [11:24:31] <will> babilen, 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]:
            Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 [8086:08b4] (rev 93)
           
         
        
          1474 [11:24:44] <babilen> will: that doesn't look like a
            realtek card at all
           
         
        
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          1477 [11:25:29] <will> the wifi card is realtek
           
         
        
          1478 [11:25:37] <babilen> will: To use that card you need
            Intel's firmware, which is packaged as firmware-iwlwifi
           
         
        
          1479 [11:25:55] <will> hmmm odd. I thought i used to see it as a
            realtek card in windows
           
         
        
          1480 [11:26:26] <babilen> will: It literally says "Intel
            Corporation Wireless 3160" so I'd say that you have an
            Intel adaptor .. but feel free to paste the output of "lspci
            -nn" to
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1481 [11:26:40] <babilen> You might have a realtek ethernet card
           
         
        
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          1484 [11:27:48] <will> ^ye sthat might be it
           
         
        
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          1486 [11:28:09] <will> i swear in windows i used to see realtek in
            the network center or whatever its called
           
         
        
          1487 [11:28:38] <will> alright i'll reboot and see whether
            this works
           
         
        
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          1489 [11:29:01] <babilen> ...  
         
        
          1490 [11:29:23] <babilen> Not sure if will installed the intel
            firmware, but I guess we'll find out soon
           
         
        
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          1500 [11:34:40] <will_> awesome guys my wifi works now
           
         
        
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          1502 [11:34:49] <babilen> yay  
         
        
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          1504 [11:35:03] <will_> now how about this issue with my touchpad.
            I cant click by tapping it
           
         
        
          1505 [11:35:10] <will_> i kinda suspect its a hardware issue
           
         
        
          1506 [11:35:19] <klys> will, in /proc/interrupts, do you see
            iwlwifi or realtek?
           
         
        
          1507 [11:35:20] <will_> but i never noticed it till i got off Mint
           
         
        
          1508 [11:35:38] <babilen> Does "synclient TapButton1=1"
            enable it?
           
         
        
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          1510 [11:37:02] <babilen> will_: ^  
         
        
          1511 [11:37:21] <will_> klys, iwlwifi  
         
        
          1512 [11:37:28] <klys> will_ thanks  
         
        
          1513 [11:37:55] <will_> command not found, babilen
           
         
        
          1514 [11:38:11] <klys> that's probably an option for
            xorg.conf
           
         
        
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          1516 [11:38:28] <will_> and how can i map ctrl + alt + t to launch
            the terminal like mint does
           
         
        
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          1520 [11:39:02] <flashdel> hi folks! I upgraded a few of my VMs to
            debian jessie with kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64, running on my kvm/libvirt
            hypervisor with kernel version 3.16.0-4-amd64. Since the upgrade, it
            seems that my command " ionice -c 3 rsync --server
            -logtpre.iLsfx --delete . /var/replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1521 [11:39:13] <babilen> klys: Sure, we can persist it once we
            figured out that it's the right option
           
         
        
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          1523 [11:39:32] <klys> will_, what was your mint desktop? what
            desktop are you using on debian?
           
         
        
          1524 [11:39:44] <babilen> will_: Could you install the
            xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package and try again?
           
         
        
          1525 [11:39:53] <babilen> Curious that it hasn't been
            installed already
           
         
        
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          1527 [11:40:10] <babilen> You might have to restart your X server
           
         
        
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          1530 [11:40:57] <klys> the xorg.conf options are kept in
            /usr/{share,lib}/X11/xorg.conf.d/
           
         
        
          1531 [11:41:15] <babilen> Please DO NOT edit files in
            /usr/{share,lib}/X11/xorg.conf.d/
           
         
        
          1532 [11:41:20] <will_> klys, I was using Mate at times and
            cinnamon
           
         
        
          1533 [11:41:38] <will_> i think what im using here is mate?
           
         
        
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          1535 [11:41:49] <will_> I remember choosing both at installation
           
         
        
          1536 [11:41:53] <babilen> So, can you run that command now?
           
         
        
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          1542 [11:45:16] <will_> babilen, it was unstalled
           
         
        
          1543 [11:45:28] <will_> I just uninstalled completely
           
         
        
          1544 [11:45:35] <babilen> What?  
         
        
          1545 [11:45:40] <will_> but when i searched for it the exact one
            didnt show
           
         
        
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          1547 [11:45:46] <will_> so im going to look fir it online
           
         
        
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          1549 [11:45:54] <will_> xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
           
         
        
          1550 [11:46:00] <babilen> You uninstalled
            xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ?
           
         
        
          1551 [11:46:13] <will_> what i found in package manager was
            xserver-xorg-input-wacom
           
         
        
          1552 [11:46:19] <will_> yes i uninstalled that
           
         
        
          1553 [11:46:26] <babilen> Why?  
         
        
          1554 [11:46:27] <will_> somehowmy touchpad still works
           
         
        
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          1557 [11:46:50] <will_> babilen, simply to reinstall
           
         
        
          1558 [11:47:06] <babilen> And you did that, tried the command I
            mentioned earlier and it still doesn't work?
           
         
        
          1559 [11:47:06] <will_> in case it might restore tap to click
            functionality
           
         
        
          1560 [11:47:19] <will_> console returns command not found
           
         
        
          1561 [11:47:20] <babilen> Tap to click is off by default
           
         
        
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          1566 [11:48:03] <babilen> will_: Could you paste the output of
            "dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics", "ls -lah
            /usr/bin/synclient" and "egrep -i
            'synap|alps|etps|elan' /proc/bus/input/devices" to
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1567 [11:48:04] <rotaticus> will_: it would have been purge not
            uninstall to delete configurations
           
         
        
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          1576 [11:51:46] <will_> babilen,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1578 [11:53:41] <will_> now when i run synclient command, it
            returns: Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics
            driver loaded?
           
         
        
          1579 [11:53:46] <will_> babilen  
         
        
          1580 [11:54:13] <babilen> Yeah, it's not a synaptics
            touchpad, but an elantech one (see last grep)
           
         
        
          1581 [11:54:37] <will_> ooh  
         
        
          1582 [11:54:40] <will_> missed that  
         
        
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          1584 [11:55:05] <babilen> I have to run now, but you want to read
            up on libinput (check your Xorg.0.log for the actual driver that is
            being loaded for your touchpad) and how to set touch to clock with,
            say, xinput and elantech touchpads in general
           
         
        
          1585 [11:55:19] <will_> alright, thank you very much
           
         
        
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          1587 [11:57:05] <babilen> Start with "xinput list", then
            "xinput list-props YOUR_DEVICE" and set the corresponding
            property with "xinput set-prop DEVICE VALUE"
           
         
        
          1588 [11:57:17] <babilen> meow  
         
        
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          1627 [12:21:54] <DK2> i have a cronjob running that is writing
            into a logfile:
           
         
        
          1628 [12:21:56] <DK2> /usr/bin/php -f /var/replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1631 [12:22:18] <DK2> however it fails: /var/replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1633 [12:22:29] <DK2> the cron.log resides in the directory and
            has 0kb
           
         
        
          1634 [12:22:40] <DK2> any ideas?  
         
        
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          1642 [12:26:22] <rjsalts> DK2: Is that a dangling symlink?
           
         
        
          1643 [12:28:41] <DK2> not a symlink  
         
        
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          1649 [12:34:00] <themill> DK2: the two paths you posted are
            different
           
         
        
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          1670 [12:48:28] <nwe> what is the right way to add multiple ip on
            an interface via /etc/networks/interfaces?
           
         
        
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          1672 [12:49:00] <nwe> is it too add 3-statement of iface ethX inet
            static ?
           
         
        
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          1677 [12:50:39] <gpunk> yes  
         
        
          1678 [12:51:07] <gpunk> eth0:0 eth0:1 etc  
         
        
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          1681 [12:54:42] <DK2> themill they are different, but that file
            still exists
           
         
        
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          1692 [13:03:20] <rotaticus> DK2: it seems, php wants to write to
            the dir the .php is started? totally not knowing /usr/bin/php
           
         
        
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          1704 [13:09:51] <themill> DK2: them being different is either the
            problem or is impossible
           
         
        
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          1706 [13:11:26] <DK2> thanks, ill try  
         
        
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          1712 [13:14:59] <bitlan> hello, i have issus with bonded 10G NIC
            LR-LINK and switch nexus 3000. On nexus 3k i see flowcontrol RX
            paused ( i never use flowcontrol)
           
         
        
          1713 [13:15:02] <bitlan> any ideas?  
         
        
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          1736 [13:27:45] <andre144k_> hi all  
         
        
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          1741 [13:30:39] <gpunk> hi  
         
        
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          1743 [13:31:19] <andre144k_> anyone knows how to "sort"
            in special way?
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1746 [13:32:16] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks  
         
        
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          1748 [13:32:49] <babilen> BluesKaj: How can we help you?
           
         
        
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          1750 [13:33:03] <jelly> andre144k_: sort tool has -t and -k
            options, try -t: -k2,2
           
         
        
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          1752 [13:33:47] <andre144k_> jelly, thx ill have a look
           
         
        
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          1754 [13:36:27] <BluesKaj> babilen, well, my whole desktop
            /kde/plasma is about to be removed if i try to remove any default
            apps with apt,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1757 [13:38:05] <babilen> BluesKaj: You might want to consider
            installing a "smaller" metapackage and/or marking suitable
            packages as manually installed
           
         
        
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          1759 [13:38:11] <babilen> dpkg: tell BluesKaj about install kde
           
         
        
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          1762 [13:38:48] <BluesKaj> aptitude left me wondering whether it
            was bout to do the same think altho with different messages
           
         
        
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          1772 [13:41:35] <Nomad0> Its probably horrible but Id just let it
            do it.. its only taking the three, you can apt-get install a clean
            up copy paste of that and they'll never have left
           
         
        
          1773 [13:42:45] <BluesKaj> babilen,, I used the netinstall and
            chose the kde desktop in the normal manner with the spacebar etc.,
            been running debian 9 for about 3 months, this drastic bug has never
            happened before. I did a clean install 3 days ago to a new hdd. and
            thsi new bug suddenly showed up..
           
         
        
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          1778 [13:43:49] <andre144k_> jelly, -k2 is working great thnx
           
         
        
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          1787 [13:47:20] <babilen> BluesKaj: It's not a bug but
            expected behaviour and has been this way for many years
           
         
        
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          1792 [13:49:21] <BluesKaj> babilen, that''s odd, because
            I removed kmail some PIM packages, pulseaudio etc in my first
            install without this problem
           
         
        
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          1794 [13:49:36] <BluesKaj> using apt  
         
        
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          1801 [13:50:49] <babilen> BluesKaj: See above for ways to handle
            this
           
         
        
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          1803 [13:53:10] <Nomad0> dpkg: tell Nomad0 about debuild
           
         
        
          1804 [13:53:28] <Nomad0> I'm with dpkg.. idk wtf this is
            either
           
         
        
          1805 [13:53:56] <boxrick> Good afternoon peops, have many people
            had success with FirewallD? I have typically disabled it and stuck
            with IPTables but I am wondering how good / bad it actually is.
           
         
        
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          1810 [13:56:19] <Nomad0> export CFLAGS="-g -02 -m32"
           
         
        
          1811 [13:57:19] <gpunk> boxrick: I like it alot
           
         
        
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          1815 [13:58:58] <Nomad0> oh crap sorry folks :)
           
         
        
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          1817 [13:59:13] <BluesKaj> babilen, I think this explains the
            problem quite clearly
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          1821 [14:00:06] <boxrick> Reading through the docs, much of it
            seems to make a lot of sense. Being able to define a service with a
            set amount of ports etc seems really nice
           
         
        
          1822 [14:00:12] <Nomad0> cant figure why debuild fails.. any logs
            somewhere?
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          1823 [14:00:19] <boxrick> However cannot see any implicit
            direction anywhere yet
           
         
        
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          1840 [14:09:58] <Nomad0> dpkg: tell nomad0 about dh
           
         
        
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          1848 [14:17:30] <rozie> hi. I would like to install Debian
            (Stretch) on my Seagate Dockstar
           
         
        
          1849 [14:17:51] <rozie> I know that it's supported by normal
            installer and this is the way I'd like to use
           
         
        
          1850 [14:18:15] <rozie> but I can't find any detailed howto.
            do you know any?
           
         
        
          1851 [14:18:23] <jelly> Nomad0: which release are you trying to
            backport mesa to
           
         
        
          1852 [14:18:29] <Nomad0> buster  
         
        
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          1854 [14:18:39] <jelly> ,v libgl1-mesa-dri
           
         
        
          1855 [14:18:40] <judd> Package: libgl1-mesa-dri on amd64 --
            wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie:
            10.3.2-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 13.0.6-1~bpo8+1; buster:
            13.0.6-1+b2; stretch: 13.0.6-1+b2; sid: 17.1.5-1; experimental:
            17.2.0~rc3-1
           
         
        
          1856 [14:19:06] <Nomad0> Its my understanding they dont have
            gallium
           
         
        
          1857 [14:19:13] <jelly> Nomad0: best ask in #debian-next on
            irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org)
           
         
        
          1858 [14:19:27] <jelly> different irc server and network, not
            freenode
           
         
        
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          1860 [14:19:35] * Nomad0 nods  
         
        
          1861 [14:19:38] <Nomad0> ok thanks  
         
        
          1862 [14:19:48] <Nomad0> didnt irc.debian.org used to lead here?
           
         
        
          1863 [14:20:00] <jelly> 13 years ago  
         
        
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          1865 [14:20:10] <Nomad0> Ahh well I'm 40 in sept :)
           
         
        
          1866 [14:20:21] <Nomad0> Still never had a job doing this crap
            either lol
           
         
        
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          1870 [14:22:45] <Nomad0> Ok well thanks jelly o/
           
         
        
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          1900 [14:33:18] <grauzikas> Hello, with centos and kickstart i can
            use kernel arguments (--apend) to send and get from /proc/cmdline to
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          1901 [14:33:34] <grauzikas> is there anything similar with
            debian/ubuntu with preseed ?
           
         
        
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          1943 [14:51:59] <rjsalts> grauzikas: yes  
         
        
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          1945 [14:53:16] <rjsalts> grauzikas:
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          1949 [14:56:41] <grauzikas> rjsalts: thank you, ill check that
           
         
        
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          1959 [15:03:00] <BluesKaj> babilen,, i managed to get rid of my so
            called problem and just ran with it, no more libreoffice, but that
            was just bloatware on my system anyway
           
         
        
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          1961 [15:03:36] <jhutchins> nO0b: That's still a valid
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            between the two networks.
           
         
        
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          1963 [15:03:56] <jhutchins> nO0b: Nevermind, that was someone
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          1989 [15:23:06] <babilen> BluesKaj: You shouldn't install the
            kde-standard package if you don't want all packages it depends
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          1992 [15:26:13] <BluesKaj> babilen, this situation caught me by
            surprise because the previous installation didn't show anything
            like this when I removed default apps like kmail, and I use the same
            installation method on both
           
         
        
          1993 [15:26:55] <BluesKaj> used  
         
        
          1994 [15:26:58] <babilen> If you installed the same metapackages
            the resulting behaviour would be the same, either way .. just
            install what you want and not packages you do not
           
         
        
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          1996 [15:29:00] <BluesKaj> how, the only choice is a general
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            using the netinstall, there's no metapackage choices
           
         
        
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          1999 [15:31:00] <babilen> I wouldn't install a desktop
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            want later on
           
         
        
          2000 [15:31:10] <babilen> Or, well, just accept the set of
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          2001 [15:31:28] <babilen> It's a common problem that
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          2004 [15:32:42] <babilen> (cf.
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          2083 [16:15:13] <Bliepo> When I enable mod_ssl_ct on my Apache I
            get this error: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl_ct.so: undefined
            symbol: EVP_MD_CTX_free
           
         
        
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          2085 [16:16:15] <Bliepo> According to
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2087 [16:16:51] <ksk> Bliepo: should. Where do you have that
            module from? Official Debian Packages?
           
         
        
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          2092 [16:17:44] <Bliepo> ksk: no, it's not an official Debian
            package. It's for certificate transparency (which I desparetly
            want). I got it here:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2094 [16:18:45] <ksk> ,versions openssl  
         
        
          2095 [16:18:46] <judd> Package: openssl on amd64 -- wheezy:
            1.0.1e-2+deb7u20; wheezy-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb7u2; jessie:
            1.0.1t-1+deb8u6; jessie-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u6; jessie-backports:
            1.0.2l-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.1.0f-3; buster: 1.1.0f-4; sid: 1.1.0f-4
           
         
        
          2096 [16:18:59] <ksk> "Build httpd as you normally would,
            ensuring that you have OpenSSL 1.0.2-beta3 or later"
           
         
        
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          2098 [16:19:46] <ksk> Bliepo: do you meet this and other
            requirements that are stated at github?
           
         
        
          2099 [16:20:13] <Bliepo> 1.1.0f-4 > 1.0.2 right?
           
         
        
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          2102 [16:21:36] <ksk> yes. No Idea then, maybe you should ask
            apache people
           
         
        
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          2104 [16:22:03] <Bliepo> Ok, thanks for the help!
           
         
        
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          2107 [16:23:20] <ksk> (you did google the erorr, didn't you
            ;)
           
         
        
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          2110 [16:24:03] <Bliepo> I did google it myesh
           
         
        
          2111 [16:24:35] <ksk>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          2112 [16:24:46] <ksk> ah thats what you pasted. mhm
           
         
        
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          2127 [16:30:36] <kaimo> hello all  
         
        
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          2130 [16:32:20] <kaimo> i was surfing got board and shutdown ive
            since rebooted and my sound has vanished i open volume controla dn
            yu can see teh sound "bouncing" but i can thear anyhting
           
         
        
          2131 [16:32:43] <kaimo> how would i provide more info to get clsoe
            to a fix it was workign to begin with fresh install today
           
         
        
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          2136 [16:34:31] <Bliepo> kaimo: your sentences are hard to
            understand, please make your sentences understandable
           
         
        
          2137 [16:34:41] <Bliepo> But in short: you rebooted and sound
            stopped working?
           
         
        
          2138 [16:34:49] <kaimo> bingo  
         
        
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          2143 [16:35:27] <Bliepo> Did you install any updates?
           
         
        
          2144 [16:35:54] <kaimo> i have done " sudo apt-get update
            && upgrade" yes
           
         
        
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          2147 [16:36:49] <Bliepo> Then I reckon the problem is due to the
            update somewhere. Unfortunately, I'm no expert on sound, so
            someone else will need to help.
           
         
        
          2148 [16:37:11] <kaimo> you got any thing i can google while i
            wait?
           
         
        
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          2150 [16:37:26] <kaimo> half teh battle it getting he search term
            corrct
           
         
        
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          2155 [16:38:08] <Bliepo> Well, I know that in Ubuntu there was
            something to do with secure boot and proprietary drivers, but I
            don't know whether it's the same for Debian
           
         
        
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          2160 [16:38:39] <ksk> Bliepo: I found this one useful:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2162 [16:39:01] <kaimo> i dont believe i have any proprietary
            driversty
           
         
        
          2163 [16:39:14] <kaimo> nps tyvm  
         
        
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          2175 [16:47:01] <webley> hi  
         
        
          2176 [16:47:24] <webley> So I got multiple tar files (.tar.001;
            .tar.002; tar.003; tar....)
           
         
        
          2177 [16:47:28] <webley> how can I extract them all?
           
         
        
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          2179 [16:47:34] <webley> 17 of them  
         
        
          2180 [16:47:36] <klys> cat  
         
        
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          2183 [16:49:26] <jelly> webley: probably cat foo.tar.??? | tar tvf
            -
           
         
        
          2184 [16:49:50] <jelly> (if that works, replace t with x to
            actually extract instead of just list)
           
         
        
          2185 [16:49:58] <klys> xpvf  
         
        
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          2188 [16:50:51] <webley> cat foo.tar.??? | tar xpvf -
           
         
        
          2189 [16:50:53] <webley> like that?  
         
        
          2190 [16:51:05] <klys> yes  
         
        
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          2195 [16:52:07] <webley> thanks  
         
        
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          2204 [16:53:56] <webley> How can I rename all subfolders with name
            "foo" to "bar"? :)
           
         
        
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          2206 [16:54:04] <webley> even if they are nested two levels deep
           
         
        
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          2210 [16:55:36] <jelly> webley: show an example, perhaps, with
            some folders you want renamed and some you don't want renamed
           
         
        
          2211 [16:55:42] <jelly> !pate  
         
        
          2212 [16:55:44] <jelly> !paste  
         
        
          2213 [16:55:50] <jelly> !paste  
         
        
          2214 [16:55:50] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
            channel. Instead, use:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2216 [16:56:02] <Ceelyne> hello  
         
        
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          2219 [16:56:11] <jelly> dpkg, tell webley about using find
           
         
        
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          2222 [16:56:55] <klys> find . -type d | while read a; do if [ grep
            ... ]; then mv $a `echo $a | sed -e "s/foo/bar/"`; fi;
            done
           
         
        
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          2224 [16:57:35] <jelly> /o\  
         
        
          2225 [16:58:41] * jelly gives klys a -print0 and also xargs -0 prename
           
         
        
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          2230 [17:00:45] <jelly> klys: here, have a mkdir 'foo; rm -rf
            '
           
         
        
          2231 [17:01:06] <klys> that looks dangerous
           
         
        
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          2233 [17:01:24] <jelly> it's just a directory name
           
         
        
          2234 [17:01:33] <klys> hah  
         
        
          2235 [17:01:49] <jelly> your proposed code is dangerous, not the
            name :-)
           
         
        
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          2242 [17:02:40] <klys> s/then mv/then echo mv/
           
         
        
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          2246 [17:03:32] <jelly> (there's a number of issues there, I
            bet #bash would bother to enumerate them all if you ask nicely)
           
         
        
          2247 [17:03:51] <klys> webley, #bash  
         
        
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          2254 [17:05:07] <fujisan>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2256 [17:05:39] <fujisan> hellois anyonehere>:
           
         
        
          2257 [17:05:45] <jelly> yes.  
         
        
          2258 [17:05:47] <jelly> !ask  
         
        
          2259 [17:05:55] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
            example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
            version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
            expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
            anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
            volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
            an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
            See <smart questions><errors>.
           
         
        
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          2269 [17:07:38] <inviz> is there any way with ss or netstat to
            monitor traffic transmitted or received?
           
         
        
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          2274 [17:08:45] <jelly> inviz: no, use a different tool, like
            tcpdump or wireshark or some other traffic analyzer
           
         
        
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          2278 [17:12:13] <fujisan> okay im looking for a few users
           
         
        
          2279 [17:12:27] <fujisan> atb, LiquidAir, cloudowind, Klevre
           
         
        
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          2282 [17:13:02] <fujisan> i have a printed chatlog of 2010 and
            these people gave me good advise on irc but i don't know on
            which server and which channel the chat was back then
           
         
        
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          2284 [17:13:17] <fujisan> i googled and this channel was listed
           
         
        
          2285 [17:13:21] <fujisan> any help is welcome
           
         
        
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          2287 [17:13:33] <fujisan> thanks in advance
           
         
        
          2288 [17:14:20] <webley> hi again  
         
        
          2289 [17:14:31] <webley> I want to find all folders (even in
            subfolders) that got the folder name 'tour-compressed'
           
         
        
          2290 [17:14:33] <webley> find . -type d -regex
            "tour-compressed"
           
         
        
          2291 [17:14:37] <webley> it doesn't work :( I get nothing
           
         
        
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          2293 [17:16:07] <webley> and for -exec for renaming I would use
            rename 's/tour-compressed/tour/'
           
         
        
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          2308 [17:20:26] <webley> anyone? :/  
         
        
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          2310 [17:20:36] <webley> How can I let find -exec just rename the
            folder name it matches to something else?
           
         
        
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          2312 [17:20:57] <dmkeast_> why are you using regex rather than
            -name ?
           
         
        
          2313 [17:21:06] <webley> because I don't know better :/
           
         
        
          2314 [17:21:08] <webley> sorry  
         
        
          2315 [17:21:09] <dmkeast_> :)  
         
        
          2316 [17:21:13] <webley> so what can I use? :D
           
         
        
          2317 [17:21:19] <webley> I got this now  
         
        
          2318 [17:21:20] <webley> find . -type d -name
            "tour-compressed"
           
         
        
          2319 [17:21:27] <webley> now I get a list of paths to all these
            tour-compressed folders
           
         
        
          2320 [17:21:31] <webley> but how to rename to "tour"
            now?
           
         
        
          2321 [17:23:33] <webley> dmkeast_: ?  
         
        
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          2325 [17:26:26] <webley> nobody?  
         
        
          2326 [17:26:38] <FlyingNun> webley: Ask again?
           
         
        
          2327 [17:26:40] <FlyingNun> !ask  
         
        
          2328 [17:26:40] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
            example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
            version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
            expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
            anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
            volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
            an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
            See <smart questions><errors>.
           
         
        
          2329 [17:26:45] <webley> ok  
         
        
          2330 [17:26:54] <rozie> webley: man rename
           
         
        
          2331 [17:26:59] <webley> whyrename? why not just mv?
           
         
        
          2332 [17:27:09] <webley> thing is - I just want to change the
            folder name
           
         
        
          2333 [17:27:14] <webley> why is this so hard?
           
         
        
          2334 [17:27:15] <webley> why  
         
        
          2335 [17:27:21] <webley> find . -type d -name
            "tour-compressed" -exec
           
         
        
          2336 [17:27:30] <webley> what to put for exec for renaming
            tour-compressed to tour?
           
         
        
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          2348 [17:32:03] <rozie> webley: you can use mv. or rename
           
         
        
          2349 [17:32:36] <webley> execdir apparently provides the cwd in
            the parent foler
           
         
        
          2350 [17:32:37] <webley> *folder  
         
        
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          2357 [17:34:10] <jelly> webley: you could do it with mv, but then
            you'd have to mangle the name on your own. prename or rename
            are easier to use.
           
         
        
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          2360 [17:34:55] <jelly> if execdir does what you say it does, then
            you could always use the same mv command, sure
           
         
        
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          2363 [17:35:44] <dmkeast_> my stab at it is something like this:
           
         
        
          2364 [17:35:46] <dmkeast_> find -type d -name tour-compressed
            -exec rename 's/tour-compressed/tour/g' '{}' \;
           
         
        
          2365 [17:35:58] <jelly> that's prename, and it's nifty
           
         
        
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          2367 [17:36:37] <dmkeast_> but i get the feeling there are dragons
            in there
           
         
        
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          2369 [17:37:02] <jelly> dmkeast_: given /g, what happens if
            there's a tour-compressed/ under tour-compressed/ ? :-)
           
         
        
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          2374 [17:38:55] <jelly> perhaps
            's/tour-compressed$/tour/g' is safer
           
         
        
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          2377 [17:39:29] <jelly> [17:38] ~ => mkdir -p tmp/foo/foo/bar
           
         
        
          2378 [17:39:29] <jelly> [17:38] ~ => prename -n
            's/foo/bar/g' tmp/foo/foo/bar
           
         
        
          2379 [17:39:30] <jelly> tmp/foo/foo/bar renamed as tmp/bar/bar/bar
           
         
        
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          2381 [17:40:19] <jelly> (on Debian, rename is prename by default,
            but doesn't have to be because there's the other, GNU
            rename thing, so I like to be explicit)
           
         
        
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          2386 [17:41:50] <jelly> webley: so add -n to rename, see what it
            _would_ do before it does anything potentially harmful
           
         
        
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          2392 [17:42:33] <jelly> find -type d -name tour-compressed -exec
            prename -n 's/tour-compressed$/tour/g' '{}' \;
           
         
        
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          2422 [17:51:43] <thowe> flashplugin-nonfree no longer appears to
            be available. What's the current method for using this?
           
         
        
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          2425 [17:53:26] <thowe> using stretch... I do have contrib and
            non-free added to sources list
           
         
        
          2426 [17:53:32] <towo`> download the tarball, extract the lib from
            there and put it to ~/.mozilla/plugins
           
         
        
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          2428 [17:54:06] <thowe> does same one work for chroms?
           
         
        
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          2431 [17:54:11] <thowe> er chrome  
         
        
          2432 [17:54:25] <towo`> no  
         
        
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          2436 [17:54:30] <towo`> why should it?  
         
        
          2437 [17:54:37] <thowe> which tarball where?
           
         
        
          2438 [17:54:40] <rpw> I'm building libvpx and getting .rodata
            can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
           
         
        
          2439 [17:54:44] <towo`> chrome has another api for plugins
           
         
        
          2440 [17:54:51] <rpw> I did get that error on Ubuntu
           
         
        
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          2443 [17:55:18] <jmcnaught> rpw: for Ubuntu support please use
            #ubuntu
           
         
        
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          2447 [17:56:05] <towo`> thowe, chrome is shipped with flash
           
         
        
          2448 [17:56:06] <rpw> jmcnaught, looking for debian help here
           
         
        
          2449 [17:56:22] <rpw> I'm on a fresh install of Debian 9
           
         
        
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          2451 [17:56:29] <thowe> towo`, just install chrome and it
            doesn't appear to have it...
           
         
        
          2452 [17:56:48] <jmcnaught> thowe: chrome or chromium?
           
         
        
          2453 [17:56:52] <towo`> thowe, i hope you don't speak of
            chromium
           
         
        
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          2455 [17:57:01] <towo`> chrome has flash for sure
           
         
        
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          2457 [17:57:08] <thowe> google-chrome. downloaded and did dpkg -i
           
         
        
          2458 [17:57:23] <jmcnaught> thowe: you'd need to ask Google
            about that then
           
         
        
          2459 [17:57:37] <thowe> Just responding to the comment that it
            should
           
         
        
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          2461 [17:58:16] <towo`> again, google-chrome comes with flash
            shipped
           
         
        
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          2463 [17:58:39] <towo`> and for chromium, it would be
            pepperflash-plugin
           
         
        
          2464 [17:58:44] <thowe> well, when called upon to run flash it
            presents a puzzle icon that says "download"
           
         
        
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          2468 [17:59:18] <towo`> thowe, i think you don't speak about
            flash-video
           
         
        
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          2470 [17:59:49] <thowe> no, it's a training course I am
            trying to do. DOn't know what form it takes. Opens another
            window and fails...
           
         
        
          2471 [18:00:40] <jmcnaught> is it actually flash or some other
            plugin? Hopefully this course requiring flash in 2017 didn't
            cost money…
           
         
        
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          2475 [18:01:10] <thowe> This one is free. My complaints
            about"flash" have been lodged.
           
         
        
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          2477 [18:01:41] <thowe> I'll poke around some more...
            I'm pretty sure I can make this work somehow.
           
         
        
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          2480 [18:01:58] <towo`> seems to bee some shockwave-flash which is
            not supported on linux
           
         
        
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          2487 [18:03:50] <BluesKaj> chrome seems to have an embedded modded
            version of flash
           
         
        
          2488 [18:04:25] <BluesKaj> and it works  
         
        
          2489 [18:04:27] <amd_0x51> I use chromium and it works fine
           
         
        
          2490 [18:04:27] <thowe> It seems the plugin is in Chrome, it just
            needs some cajoling to present itself.
           
         
        
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          2500 [18:08:20] <BluesKaj> html5 ftw, soon I hope
           
         
        
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          2504 [18:09:05] <amd_0x51> ^  
         
        
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          2524 [18:18:49] <hanasaki> building a custom kernel. it seems that
            the path to the source is built into the deb package ... should the
            source be in a specific subdirectory when built so that it will work
            on any machine when installed?
           
         
        
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          2576 [18:41:36] <jelly> hanasaki: linux-headers-* package is
            supposed to store headers in a well known place, and a symlink is
            created under /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ pointing to the right place
           
         
        
          2577 [18:42:08] <jelly> it shouldn't matter where you
            actually built the kernel at all
           
         
        
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          2597 [18:49:45] <hanasaki> jelly: thanks  
         
        
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          2601 [18:51:35] <nvz> I'm trying to use an HP Deskjet 3630
            with stretch on armhf via usb, the printer shows up in lsusb &
            dmesg, its bound to /dev/usb/lp0 but HP Device Manager is not
            finding any printers when I scan for a USB printer.
           
         
        
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          2604 [18:52:32] <nvz> my user wasn't in the group
            "lp" I added it and temporarily set the device node 666
            and it still couldnt find the printer are there any other groups I
            might need access to for this to work?
           
         
        
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          2607 [18:53:05] <jelly> nvz: still using crappy vendor kernel?
           
         
        
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          2609 [18:53:38] <nvz> jelly: oh yes, but being that its seeing it
            as a bidirectional printer and putting it through to /dev/usb/lp I
            assumed this was more likely a userland issue
           
         
        
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          2611 [18:54:21] <nvz> if the kernel wasn't detecting it I
            would not have even mentioned it here
           
         
        
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          2617 [18:57:38] <nvz> jelly: and fwiw its not the vendor kernel,
            its the sunxi-linux kernel. the vendor's kernel is full of oom
            issues and vulnerabilities, the sunxi is just a bit dated,
            they're still working on mainlining hdmi so thats whats keeping
            me from a mainline as of right now
           
         
        
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          2620 [18:58:03] <jelly> I haven't had a hplip device in a
            while, but last time I did I think hplip looked directly inside
            /dev/bus/usb/
           
         
        
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          2624 [18:58:52] <nvz> I'll see what other permissions are
            needed there then I guess.. HP printers were always plug and play,
            but i crated this particular user with adduser and it didnt seem to
            get the same group perms as the user I initially created
           
         
        
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          2626 [18:59:22] <jelly> don't forget to log off and back on
            each time after adding a group
           
         
        
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          2628 [19:00:25] <nvz> right well I just did a chmod 666 to test
            without having to logoff then I set it back to 660. The
            /dev/bus/usb/006 stuff is all global read and root:root so its not
            that either
           
         
        
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          2630 [19:00:55] <nvz> I'll have to wait until I get back I
            gotta catch a bus. I will try it as root later and work backward to
            see what this user's issue is
           
         
        
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          2633 [19:01:42] <nvz> I should have set this up back when I got
            the printer and then I wouldnt be rushing to try print something :P
           
         
        
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          2694 [19:31:59] <tangorri> hi, I got debian crash when trying to
            install (bsd bhyve)
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          2723 [19:44:50] <nostalgiccloud> is there a debian hardened
            kernel?
           
         
        
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          2742 [19:51:15] <teo_> How can I Add a "contrib" and
            "non-free" components to /etc/apt/sources.list on the
            debian wheezy ?
           
         
        
          2743 [19:51:34] <teo_> and which is this ?
           
         
        
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          2747 [19:52:37] <netzach> hello  
         
        
          2748 [19:52:59] <netzach> sorry it's me again, can I get the
            guide again on how to fix grub, and update my usb install with a
            uuid instead?
           
         
        
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          2753 [19:54:50] <abrotman> dpkg: tell netzach about fixgrub
           
         
        
          2754 [19:54:56] <cruncher> teo_, enter "add contrib non-free
            to sources.list" into google... 1st hit
           
         
        
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          2757 [19:56:34] <teo_> and which is this ?
           
         
        
          2758 [19:56:43] <teo_> and which is that ?
           
         
        
          2759 [19:56:44] <netzach> sorry what does it mean run "mount
            /boot/efi" on EFI
           
         
        
          2760 [19:56:47] <netzach> what is EFI? the UEFI?
           
         
        
          2761 [19:56:50] <cruncher> teo_,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2765 [19:58:06] <mender27> Evening everyone!
           
         
        
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          2772 [20:00:22] <teo_> deb
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          2773 [20:00:35] <teo_> deb
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          2774 [20:00:56] <teo_> deb
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2776 [20:01:25] <teo_> this is not correct ? one user is told me
            for this ...
           
         
        
          2777 [20:01:26] <mender27> Would there be much interest in
            packaging the old Marathon game project called AlephOne? I started
            hacking at the dependencies yesterday, but the project docs are
            largely incomplete :P.
           
         
        
          2778 [20:01:48] <mender27> teo_: you have typo in
            "contrib"
           
         
        
          2779 [20:02:19] <mender27> teo_: it's "contrib" not
            "conrtib"
           
         
        
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          2781 [20:02:36] <teo_> yes ok  
         
        
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          2783 [20:02:46] <teo_> but is correct this ?
           
         
        
          2784 [20:03:07] <mender27> as long as there is a Brazilian
            ftp.br.debian.org mirror, yes.
           
         
        
          2785 [20:03:26] <mender27> I have something quite similar in my
            own sources.list.
           
         
        
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          2787 [20:03:53] <netzach> why do many official wiki posts on
            debian uses aptitude install
           
         
        
          2788 [20:03:59] <netzach> vs apt-get install?
           
         
        
          2789 [20:04:04] <netzach> what is the difference? is it better to
            use aptitude?
           
         
        
          2790 [20:04:05] <teo_> if i write this 3 iam ok for Add
            "contrib" and "non-free" components no wheezy ?
           
         
        
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          2792 [20:04:11] <teo_> if i write this 3 iam ok for Add
            "contrib" and "non-free" components on wheezy ?
           
         
        
          2793 [20:04:34] <mender27> netzach: aptitude has a proper ncurses
            CLI and often the search results are more useful.
           
         
        
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          2795 [20:05:11] <netzach> hm ok  
         
        
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          2797 [20:05:13] <cruncher> teo_, take the sources.list you already
            have, and append "contrib non-free" to the end (after
            "main")
           
         
        
          2798 [20:05:21] <netzach> so I shouldn't use apt-get mender27
            ?
           
         
        
          2799 [20:05:22] <mender27> teo_: I think you have some errors in
            your sources.list. Sec. I'll pastebin mine.
           
         
        
          2800 [20:05:29] <cruncher> and if you want wheezy, instead of
            stretch write wheezy
           
         
        
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          2803 [20:06:31] <mender27> teo_:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2805 [20:07:14] <mender27> teo_: you can either use the main
            mirror or your ftp.br.debian.org for better bandwidth.
           
         
        
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          2811 [20:08:41] <mender27> teo_: also be aware that wheezy is the
            old old stable and will get support only until June 2018.
           
         
        
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          2816 [20:10:03] <teo_> iam like wheezy because it have emc for my
            cnc
           
         
        
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          2821 [20:10:39] <teo_> in your file you have 4 lines
           
         
        
          2822 [20:11:12] <teo_> i put all the lines inside my at the end
            mender27 ?
           
         
        
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          2825 [20:13:09] <teo_> the 4 files is correct, i have wheezy snd
            your files is stretch
           
         
        
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          2828 [20:13:56] <teo_> the 4 files is correct? i have wheezy and
            your files is stretch, why?
           
         
        
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          2831 [20:16:24] <mender27> teo_: because Stretch is the current
            stable? Also, you're not supposed to put the lines I sent you
            at the end of your sources.list, but use them as a base to correct
            your sources.list.
           
         
        
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          2835 [20:17:22] <mender27> teo_: here you'll find extra
            information on how the sources.list mirror list file is structured:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          2846 [20:19:55] <LtL> dpkg: !tell teo_ -about wheezy sources.list
           
         
        
          2847 [20:19:55] <dpkg> LtL: I wish you would RTFM.
           
         
        
          2848 [20:20:01] <LtL> meh  
         
        
          2849 [20:20:07] <LtL> dpkg: tell teo_ -about wheezy sources.list
           
         
        
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          2852 [20:20:31] <LtL> teo_: read the message from dpkg
           
         
        
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          2854 [20:20:39] <teo_> now on my file before change with your
            lines i have 6 lines (3 deb and 3 deb-scr) and all the lines at the
            and is tell non-free .your lines mender27 i put at the end ? or i
            delete my 6 lines and i put your 4 lines ?
           
         
        
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          2863 [20:26:26] <LtL> teo_: src NOT scr  
         
        
          2864 [20:26:49] <teo_> yes  
         
        
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          2866 [20:27:28] <mender27> unless you know you're going to
            use deb source packages, you don't need deb-src lines in your
            sources.list. Also, do read the docs we're throwing at you
            please :(.
           
         
        
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          2877 [20:30:57] <teo_> deb ---- stretch-backports yes or no ?
           
         
        
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          2883 [20:33:55] <LtL> teo_: worry about backports later, there is
            little there at this time you can do without it for now
           
         
        
          2884 [20:34:27] <teo_> ok  
         
        
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          2887 [20:35:00] <teo_> 3 lines deb without src...
           
         
        
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          2889 [20:35:12] <LtL> teo_: yes  
         
        
          2890 [20:35:45] <mender27> teo_: can you pastebin your
            sources.list so that we can have a final look at it? Also, how come
            the sources.list file was not automatically generated for you by the
            Debian installation scripts?
           
         
        
          2891 [20:36:00] <LtL> teo_: with main contrib non-free at the END
            of each line, then run apt-get update
           
         
        
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          2894 [20:36:34] <teo_> ok LtL  
         
        
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          2899 [20:38:03] <teo_> no i cant paste my file on pastebin for
            now. and i dont know iam a nood
           
         
        
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          2910 [20:46:37] <kallenp> Hi, pls. any idea howto preservere
            permissions on logs that are logrotated ? When logrotate starts, it
            change permission on log files. Thanks for help.
           
         
        
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          2914 [20:47:38] <LtL> teo_: my mistake, if you have wheezy you can
            use wheezy-backports
           
         
        
          2915 [20:48:02] <teo_> ok  
         
        
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          2917 [20:48:50] <teo_> the 3 deb files is tell .....stretch... is
            correct ?
           
         
        
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          2919 [20:49:33] <LtL> teo_: no stretch is currently
            'stable' you are using wheezy correct?
           
         
        
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          2923 [20:50:31] <yep> hello does someone use qemu on debian i have
            a little optimisation question to ask
           
         
        
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          2926 [20:50:47] <teo_> the other users is tell me for stretch
            files
           
         
        
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          2932 [20:51:16] <LtL> teo_: so wheezy not stretch, no mention of
            stretch just wheezy
           
         
        
          2933 [20:51:35] <LtL> teo_: you say you have wheezy, yes?
           
         
        
          2934 [20:51:37] <teo_> my version is linuxcnc-2.7-wheezy
           
         
        
          2935 [20:51:41] <teo_> yes  
         
        
          2936 [20:52:17] <LtL> teo_: then only wheezy in sources.list not
            jessie, not stretch
           
         
        
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          2940 [20:53:28] <teo_> ok, 2 users here is tell me for stretch, 1
            today and 1 yesterday
           
         
        
          2941 [20:53:46] <SuperTramp83> How about you read about it and
            understand ->
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          2942 [20:53:52] <teo_> and we send me stretch debs
           
         
        
          2943 [20:54:09] <LtL> teo_: what does lsb_release -a in a terminal
            say?
           
         
        
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          2945 [20:54:41] <kallenp> Hi, pls. any idea howto preservere
            permissions on logs that are logrotated  ? When logrotate
            starts, it change permission on log files. Thanks for help.
           
         
        
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          2947 [20:55:49] <teo_> debian 7.11 wheezy  
         
        
          2948 [20:55:59] <teo_> its tell  
         
        
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          2950 [20:57:03] <LtL> teo_: do NOT say stretch in sources.list
            ONLY wheezy or you will destroy your system
           
         
        
          2951 [20:57:52] <teo_> I have said it 10 times
           
         
        
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          2953 [20:58:01] <teo_> 2 users here is tell me for stretch, 1
            today and 1 yesterday
           
         
        
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          2956 [20:58:13] <context> teo_: your system is wheezy
           
         
        
          2957 [20:58:14] <teo_> and its tell me all ok......
           
         
        
          2958 [20:58:16] <context> so put wheezy.  
         
        
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          2962 [20:58:44] <context> or dont listen to people, and do
            whatever you want.
           
         
        
          2963 [20:58:49] <LtL> teo_: save that fie, if apt-get update runs
            with no errors it works, then run apt-get upgrade
           
         
        
          2964 [20:58:55] <LtL> *file  
         
        
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          2966 [20:59:12] <teo_> one user is tell me better the stretch
            because wheezy is and 2018
           
         
        
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          2968 [20:59:19] <teo_> one user is tell me better the stretch
            because wheezy is end 2018
           
         
        
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          2971 [20:59:52] <LtL> teo_: you are two releases behind,
            don't listen to them
           
         
        
          2972 [21:00:26] <context> teo_: maybe you should upgrade if you
            are worried about wheezy being eol 2018.
           
         
        
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          2974 [21:01:06] <teo_> for now i want stable...
           
         
        
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          2976 [21:01:56] <context> ok. are jessie and stretch not stable?
           
         
        
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          2978 [21:01:58] <teo_> which is the correct 3 or 4 files to Add
            "contrib" and "non-free" components to
            /etc/apt/sources.list ??
           
         
        
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          2980 [21:02:14] <teo_> to my wheezy ?  
         
        
          2981 [21:02:27] <context> which is more stable... installing
            wheezy packages on your wheezy install, or installing stretch
            packages on your wheezy instrall ?
           
         
        
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          2985 [21:03:24] <context> im willing to guess those stretch
            packages are designed to depend on packages from a stretch system,
            and not a wheezy system.
           
         
        
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          2988 [21:03:38] <teo_> i think first, iam nood
           
         
        
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          2992 [21:04:09] <teo_> i want to install my nvidia geforce fx 5600
            on my pc, nothing more
           
         
        
          2993 [21:04:18] <LtL> teo_: lines not files
           
         
        
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          2995 [21:05:16] <LtL> teo_: each line ends with -> main contrib
            non-free
           
         
        
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          2997 [21:06:02] <mender27> teo_: I highly recommend you have a
            look at any of the Ubuntu derivatives or the main Ubuntu
            distribution.
           
         
        
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          2999 [21:06:45] <mender27> teo_: I don't mean to sound rude,
            but we have given you ample support already, yet you refuse to take
            it...
           
         
        
          3000 [21:06:46] <LtL> mender27: heresy  
         
        
          3001 [21:06:50] <teo_> yes  
         
        
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          3003 [21:06:57] <netzach> Hello  
         
        
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          3005 [21:07:02] <netzach> I am trying to do the grub repair
           
         
        
          3006 [21:07:11] <netzach> but when I do grub-install it says
            filesystem ext2 doesn't support embedding
           
         
        
          3007 [21:07:13] <netzach> and it errors out
           
         
        
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          3009 [21:07:25] <mender27> LtL: normally I would not recommend it,
            especially here, but he's struggling with his sources.list for
            hours already.
           
         
        
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          3011 [21:07:43] <LtL> mender27: yes, im kidding
           
         
        
          3012 [21:07:46] <mender27> :p  
         
        
          3013 [21:07:59] <mender27> Be back later o/
           
         
        
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          3016 [21:08:17] <LtL> netzach: what was the entire comand?
           
         
        
          3017 [21:08:48] <netzach> grub-install /dev/disk/by-uuid/uuid here
           
         
        
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          3019 [21:08:54] <netzach> I can't copy paste it since
            it's on another computer
           
         
        
          3020 [21:09:06] <netzach> I did the mount and chroot first
           
         
        
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          3029 [21:12:14] <LtL> netzach: i would boot off a live cd and
            grub-install /dev/sdX but there are different versions of grub,
            i'll leave that question to the channel sorry
           
         
        
          3030 [21:13:52] <netzach> I am off a live cd, an alternative
            terminal
           
         
        
          3031 [21:14:12] <netzach> LtL: I can't grub-install /dev/sdx
            because the sdx changed between boots, I need it to by uuid or
            perhaps by label idk
           
         
        
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          3033 [21:15:29] <netzach>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          3034 [21:15:48] <teraflops> netzach: you install grub to /dev/sdx
            then check at /etc/fstab it is using uuids, if not, edit it and add
            the correct uuid
           
         
        
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          3036 [21:16:22] <teraflops> for getting uuids use lsblk, if youre
            inside a chrroot use blkid
           
         
        
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          3041 [21:18:57] <sorressean> I'm using debian via cli (no
            window manager set up) I have two soundcards and it's causing
            problems for alsa. I have hdmi and my regular soundcard. I
            can't blacklist or change the order because they're both
            intel_hda. any tips on how to blacklist hdmi entirely so alsa
            won't use it?
           
         
        
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          3047 [21:20:45] <sorressean> I tried blacklisting snd_codec_hdmi
            but that didn't work
           
         
        
          3048 [21:20:59] <netzach> I can't do it by sdx teraflops that
            is the whole issue
           
         
        
          3049 [21:21:05] <teraflops> why?  
         
        
          3050 [21:21:24] <netzach> because it's an usb key and the sdx
            changes as soon as I unplug the other usb key that is the installer
           
         
        
          3051 [21:21:30] <teraflops> …  
         
        
          3052 [21:21:37] <teraflops> read again what I wrote
           
         
        
          3053 [21:22:01] <netzach> that never worked,,,,
           
         
        
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          3056 [21:22:30] <netzach> is it possible to make grub not generate
            all the oses it finds? cause I have some hdds plugged in that have
            varaious oses from broken laptops and I don't want grub to
            detect them all
           
         
        
          3057 [21:22:34] <netzach> only debian?  
         
        
          3058 [21:22:36] <netzach> the one I ask it to
           
         
        
          3059 [21:23:43] <teraflops> netzach: uninstall os-prober
           
         
        
          3060 [21:24:13] <teraflops> netzach: also iirc if you use debian
            netinstall and select rescue mode, when you reach the select a
            debian install and you get a prompt, if you install grub and re-run
            update-grub, it uses uuids, because I remember a similar issue here
            days ago
           
         
        
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          3062 [21:25:04] <teraflops> again, grub install /dev/sda ot
            whatever, then edit /etc/fstab
           
         
        
          3063 [21:25:19] <netzach> ok by-id worked  
         
        
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          3065 [21:25:22] <teraflops> if there is no uuids, run lsblk copy
            the uuid and paste there
           
         
        
          3066 [21:25:23] <netzach> apparently uuid is for partitions
           
         
        
          3067 [21:25:45] <netzach> teraflops: that doesn't work I tell
            you, /dev/sda doesn't work, at boot it says /dev/sda
            doesn't exist
           
         
        
          3068 [21:25:51] <netzach> cause it changes from sde1 to sdd1
           
         
        
          3069 [21:26:10] <netzach> how can I check all the temperatures of
            the pc?
           
         
        
          3070 [21:26:53] <teraflops> …  
         
        
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          3074 [21:28:42] <netzach> also I have the firmware dvd iso flashes
            ot ab usb key, but since it detects an usb key it still asks me if I
            want to load the firwmare from the usb stick
           
         
        
          3075 [21:28:48] <netzach> even if it's supposed to be on the
            install medium
           
         
        
          3076 [21:28:51] <netzach> so I end up without the firmware
           
         
        
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          3080 [21:30:44] <netzach> is it possible to report this bug?
           
         
        
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          3084 [21:32:04] <netzach> the firmware is present on the usb key,
            I just checked right now
           
         
        
          3085 [21:32:07] <netzach> on the instlal usb key
           
         
        
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          3087 [21:32:36] <netzach> oh nvm it's lal 0kb wtf
           
         
        
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          3090 [21:33:34] <shtrb> other than debootsrap how can I prepare a
            debian installation on disk from running debian
           
         
        
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          3092 [21:33:55] <shtrb> I got the impression I should not run d-i
            from running system
           
         
        
          3093 [21:34:02] <netzach>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          3094 [21:34:11] <netzach> I just mounted that iso, opened it with
            7zip and winrar all empty
           
         
        
          3095 [21:34:20] <netzach> and they end up as 0kb when flashing
            them on my usb key
           
         
        
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          3104 [21:35:48] <netzach> can anyone please confirm this?
           
         
        
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          3107 [21:40:03] <jmcnaught> netzach: I don't want to download
            the DVD1 but the I just loop mounted
            firmware-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso and the firmware directory has the
            .deb files as expected.
           
         
        
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          3109 [21:40:31] <jmcnaught> netzach: what method are you using to
            copy the image to USB? Are you making sure to copy it to a device
            and not a partition on the device?
           
         
        
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          3113 [21:42:32] <shtrb> also sync  
         
        
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          3126 [21:46:55] <teo_> which is the correct lines for Add
            "contrib" and "non-free" components to
            /etc/apt/sources.list On debian linuxcnc-2.7.1.1-wheezy for now ?
           
         
        
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          3134 [21:49:18] <netzach> jmcnaught: the whole install worked ok
            other than the firmware, I opened the iso in 7zip,. winrar and
            mounted it with windows 7 the firemware folder is empoty
           
         
        
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          3138 [21:52:36] <teo_> how can i find the lines ?
           
         
        
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          3144 [21:54:10] <teo_> i see the Primary Debian mirror sites then
            what i do ..
           
         
        
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          3147 [21:54:57] <netzach> ok I am gonna try to write the iso imag
            ein dd mode now
           
         
        
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          3155 [21:58:58] <teo_> which is the correct lines for Add
            "contrib" and "non-free" components to
            /etc/apt/sources.list On debian linuxcnc-2.7.1.1-wheezy for now ?
           
         
        
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          3163 [22:01:15] <teraflops> teo_: may I ask what
            linuxcnc-2.7.1.1-wheezy is?
           
         
        
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          3166 [22:01:40] <teo_> debian 7.11  
         
        
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          3169 [22:02:03] <teo_> wheezy  
         
        
          3170 [22:02:44] <teraflops> plain wheezy? I wonder about the
            linuxcnc-2.7.1.1
           
         
        
          3171 [22:02:49] <teraflops> vps?  
         
        
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          3174 [22:03:15] <teraflops> !wheezy sources.list
           
         
        
          3175 [22:03:15] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
            7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          3189 [22:07:34] <teo_> <dpkg> you not help
           
         
        
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          3191 [22:08:11] <teo_> <dpkg> iam a nood and i want Add
            "contrib" and "non-free" components
           
         
        
          3192 [22:08:41] <teo_> i want the line from start to finish
           
         
        
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          3195 [22:09:36] <zPlus> hi, I have a question about installing
            Debian. If during the installation process I select "Debian
            desktop environment" without checking any of GNOME, KDE, etc.
            what is it going to install?
           
         
        
          3196 [22:09:54] <teraflops> gnome iirc  
         
        
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          3199 [22:11:32] <n4dir> zPlus: wouldn't it make more sense to
            check the DE you want installed?
           
         
        
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          3201 [22:11:50] <zPlus> teraflops: oh ok thanks. This seems a bit
            confusing though, because GNOME is among one of the possible choices
            so it looks like it's going to install something else for
            "Desktop environment" that is not GNOME or KDE or anything
            else
           
         
        
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          3206 [22:13:36] <zPlus> n4dir: yes I'm just wondering because
            I can check the general entry "Desktop environment" which
            doesn't say what it's useful for
           
         
        
          3207 [22:14:19] <teo_> someone can write the line ??
           
         
        
          3208 [22:14:36] <teo_> w r i t e t h e l i n e s ....
           
         
        
          3209 [22:14:42] <teo_> i want the line from start to finish
           
         
        
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          3211 [22:14:52] <teo_> which is the correct lines for Add
            "contrib" and "non-free" components to
            /etc/apt/sources.list On debian linuxcnc-2.7.1.1-wheezy for now ?
           
         
        
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          3213 [22:15:28] <maxcell_> teo_, paste your sources.list
           
         
        
          3214 [22:15:28] <n4dir> zPlus: yeah, that would make me wonder
            too. I am with teraflops though (probably gnome)
           
         
        
          3215 [22:15:36] <maxcell_> teo_, paste.debian.org
           
         
        
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          3223 [22:17:29] <teo_> i write from other pc the lines is in other
            pc, i want to install my graphics card, i dident have good screen
            very lines on pixel
           
         
        
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          3225 [22:17:55] <maxcell_> teo_, ok it's very very easy
           
         
        
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          3228 [22:18:12] <maxcell_> deb
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          3229 [22:18:20] <maxcell_> this is mine  
         
        
          3230 [22:18:27] <maxcell_> i'm using debian stretch
           
         
        
          3231 [22:18:41] <maxcell_> if you add contrib and non-free it will
            be like this
           
         
        
          3232 [22:18:43] <teo_> ?  
         
        
          3233 [22:18:47] <maxcell_> deb
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          3234 [22:19:17] <maxcell_> you put that contrib and non-free after
            all the words that says "main" in your sources.list
           
         
        
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          3237 [22:19:32] <maxcell_> then you run apt-get update to make the
            changes useful
           
         
        
          3238 [22:19:39] <maxcell_> understand?  
         
        
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          3243 [22:20:18] <teo_> do NOT say stretch in sources.list ONLY
            wheezy or you will destroy your system
           
         
        
          3244 [22:20:27] <maxcell_> I'm using stretch
           
         
        
          3245 [22:20:31] <maxcell_> you are using Wheezy
           
         
        
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          3247 [22:20:40] <teo_> thAT it tell before 1 user
           
         
        
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          3250 [22:20:58] <maxcell_> thats why say Wheezy on yours, do not
            change that, just put "contrib non-free" after all the
            word "main"
           
         
        
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          3252 [22:21:17] <towo`> teo_, go away, if you can't use your
            brain to replace some simple word in a textfile
           
         
        
          3253 [22:22:04] <maxcell_> teo_, think that as a windows 7 and 10.
            You are using windows 7, thats why say Wheezy in your sources.list.
            Because the debian you are using is quite old.
           
         
        
          3254 [22:22:07] <towo`> and linuxcnc is not an official debian
           
         
        
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          3256 [22:22:49] <maxcell_> teo_, do not change the Wheezy tho, or
            you will probably broke your system
           
         
        
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          3258 [22:23:05] <teo_> ok  
         
        
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          3261 [22:23:29] <maxcell_> teo_, just put the fucking
            "contrib non-free" after "main" words to tell
            your apt-get to look after contrib and non-free packages, thats ALL.
           
         
        
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          3264 [22:23:57] <maxcell_> no secrets  
         
        
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          3270 [22:25:40] <maxcell_> I'm having a issue of Screen
            Tearing. I'm using Debian 9.1 and Nvidia. Be honest, can i fix
            that or it will Tearing every movie i watch?
           
         
        
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          3274 [22:26:48] <towo`> maxcell_, which desktop you use?
           
         
        
          3275 [22:27:16] <maxcell_> KDE right now, but it tearing on XFCE
            as well, but i've deleted XFCE already.
           
         
        
          3276 [22:27:18] <rpw> maxcell_ I have some tips on screen tearing
           
         
        
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          3278 [22:27:28] <maxcell_> rpw, it will work?
           
         
        
          3279 [22:27:38] <maxcell_> it can be done?
           
         
        
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          3281 [22:27:47] <rpw> stand by  
         
        
          3282 [22:27:56] <towo`> on xfce it would be easy
           
         
        
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          3284 [22:28:13] <towo`> install and use compton as composite
            manager
           
         
        
          3285 [22:28:23] <towo`> on kde i have no clue
           
         
        
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          3287 [22:28:49] <towo`> on cinnamon there is no tearing since
            cinnamon is using compositing by default
           
         
        
          3288 [22:28:51] <n4dir> xfce has compositing itself. wouldn't
            it solve the problem?
           
         
        
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          3290 [22:29:05] <maxcell_> i was using compositing on xfce
           
         
        
          3291 [22:29:06] <towo`> n4dir, no, that xfce compositor is
            crap³
           
         
        
          3292 [22:29:10] <maxcell_> it's enabled by default
           
         
        
          3293 [22:29:13] <rpw> you need to add a line to xorg.conf
           
         
        
          3294 [22:29:16] <n4dir> okay, sorry for the noice :-)
           
         
        
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          3296 [22:29:35] <maxcell_> rpw, ok but i don't think i have
            xorg.conf
           
         
        
          3297 [22:29:40] <maxcell_> these days  
         
        
          3298 [22:29:41] <rpw> Add the option under Section
            "Device"
           
         
        
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          3301 [22:29:58] <rpw> "TripleBuffer" "1"
           
         
        
          3302 [22:30:07] <maxcell_> hmm interesting
           
         
        
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          3304 [22:30:16] <maxcell_> that may work  
         
        
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          3306 [22:30:23] <maxcell_> but i dont have xorg.conf
           
         
        
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          3308 [22:30:46] <towo`> then make one  
         
        
          3309 [22:30:47] <rpw> do xorg -configure  
         
        
          3310 [22:30:52] <towo`> not needed  
         
        
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          3312 [22:31:05] <maxcell_> wait  
         
        
          3313 [22:31:11] <maxcell_> what should i do to make one
           
         
        
          3314 [22:31:13] <maxcell_> xorg.conf  
         
        
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          3316 [22:31:23] <maxcell_> xorg -configure? i'm using nvidia
           
         
        
          3317 [22:31:27] <rpw> xorg -configure  
         
        
          3318 [22:31:31] <maxcell_> ok  
         
        
          3319 [22:31:41] <maxcell_> command not found
           
         
        
          3320 [22:31:50] <rpw> oh yeah use the nvidia tool
           
         
        
          3321 [22:32:19] <rpw> I'm on a virtual machine right now so I
            can't test it
           
         
        
          3322 [22:32:20] <maxcell_> i need to install the tool with
            apt-get, do you remember the name?
           
         
        
          3323 [22:32:44] <rpw> just make the file  
         
        
          3324 [22:32:51] <towo`> no!  
         
        
          3325 [22:33:01] <rpw> sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
           
         
        
          3326 [22:33:13] <towo`> mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d &&
            echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My
            GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' >
            /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
           
         
        
          3327 [22:33:13] <maxcell_> if i make xorg.conf file, i need to put
            everything on it, like monitor vertical lines and stuff don't
            i?
           
         
        
          3328 [22:33:24] <towo`> not more, not less
           
         
        
          3329 [22:33:30] <rpw> try X -configure  
         
        
          3330 [22:33:37] <towo`> then you can add that option to
            /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
           
         
        
          3331 [22:33:49] <towo`> no X -configure needed
           
         
        
          3332 [22:33:53] <towo`> that's useless
           
         
        
          3333 [22:33:59] <rpw> listen to towo  
         
        
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          3336 [22:34:09] <maxcell_> ok  
         
        
          3337 [22:34:35] <towo`> but for me, the tripple buffer has not
            helped
           
         
        
          3338 [22:34:39] <maxcell_> towo`, i have those archives like
            50-mouse-acceleration.conf at /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
           
         
        
          3339 [22:35:00] <rpw> try this  
         
        
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          3341 [22:35:05] <towo`> maxcell_, don't do anything in
            /usr/share/X11!
           
         
        
          3342 [22:35:12] <rpw> Option "TearFree" "true"
           
         
        
          3343 [22:35:14] <maxcell_> towo`, can i create the 20-nvidia.conf
            at this directory or i have to use /etc/X11/xorg?
           
         
        
          3344 [22:35:14] <towo`> maxcell_, read, what i have written
           
         
        
          3345 [22:35:26] <maxcell_> towo`, ok  
         
        
          3346 [22:35:32] <maxcell_> i will do it on /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
            then
           
         
        
          3347 [22:35:34] <towo`> maxcell_, /usr/share is for system, not
            for user
           
         
        
          3348 [22:35:56] <towo`> all user configs has to be in /etc/foo
           
         
        
          3349 [22:36:19] <maxcell_> towo`, as you wish
           
         
        
          3350 [22:36:22] <rpw> yeah but Option "TearFree"
            "true" in /etx/X11/xorg.conf.d/
           
         
        
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          3352 [22:36:50] <towo`> even TearFree option doe not help allways
           
         
        
          3353 [22:37:05] <teraflops> i had better results using modesetting
           
         
        
          3354 [22:37:22] <teraflops> tearfree harms performance
           
         
        
          3355 [22:37:39] <towo`> modesetting with binary blob?
           
         
        
          3356 [22:37:47] <teraflops> but it's hard to say because
            every intel model has its own issues
           
         
        
          3357 [22:37:53] <maxcell_> towo`, bash:
            /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf: Permissão negada
           
         
        
          3358 [22:37:59] <maxcell_> it gave me permission denied
           
         
        
          3359 [22:38:04] <teraflops> towo`: oh, nvidia, nvm
           
         
        
          3360 [22:38:10] <towo`> echo -e 'Section
            "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver
            "nvidia"\nEndSection' >
            /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
           
         
        
          3361 [22:38:15] <towo`> maxcell_, as root  
         
        
          3362 [22:38:19] <maxcell_> ok  
         
        
          3363 [22:38:27] <Lockw00d> hello has someone installed debian 9 on
            a Mac Book Pro?
           
         
        
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          3365 [22:38:30] <maxcell_> permissino denied again
           
         
        
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          3367 [22:39:01] <kb3vgw> ok having a issue
           
         
        
          3368 [22:39:02] <towo`> maxcell_, that is one command, which
            begins with the echo!
           
         
        
          3369 [22:39:17] <maxcell_> denis@debian:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d$ sudo
            echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My
            GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' >
            /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
           
         
        
          3370 [22:39:18] <maxcell_> bash:
            /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf: Permissão negada
           
         
        
          3371 [22:39:19] <kb3vgw> trying to usr
            /etc/network/interfaces.d/dir
           
         
        
          3372 [22:39:40] <kb3vgw> and files like eth_0 and wlan_0
           
         
        
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          3374 [22:39:52] <kb3vgw> but ifup is not bring them up
           
         
        
          3375 [22:39:57] <maxcell_> towo`, do i need to specify bash
            somewhere on this command to work?
           
         
        
          3376 [22:40:01] <towo`> you have done mkdir -p /etc/X1/xorg.conf.d
           
         
        
          3377 [22:40:07] <maxcell_> i did  
         
        
          3378 [22:40:08] <towo`> grr  
         
        
          3379 [22:40:12] <towo`> you have done mkdir -p
            /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
           
         
        
          3380 [22:40:16] <maxcell_> im on /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d directory
            right now
           
         
        
          3381 [22:40:32] <maxcell_> i did mkdir -p as you tell me to
           
         
        
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          3383 [22:40:49] <towo`> maxcell_, can you do anything right, as
            you been told?
           
         
        
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          3385 [22:41:01] <towo`> maxcell_, you should not stay in that dir
           
         
        
          3386 [22:41:03] <maxcell_> towo`, dude, i just paste your command
           
         
        
          3387 [22:41:06] <kb3vgw> does /etc/network/interfaces.d no longer
            work
           
         
        
          3388 [22:41:07] <towo`> maxcell_, you are not root
           
         
        
          3389 [22:41:14] <rotaticus> kb3vgw: perhaps eth0 and wlan0 ?
           
         
        
          3390 [22:41:25] <kb3vgw> same  
         
        
          3391 [22:41:28] <maxcell_> towo`, i've used sudo
           
         
        
          3392 [22:41:36] <towo`> maxcell_, i have nothing sayed like cd
            /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
           
         
        
          3393 [22:41:42] <kb3vgw> its not bringing them up on a re boot
           
         
        
          3394 [22:41:45] <maxcell_> towo`, ok  
         
        
          3395 [22:41:47] <towo`> maxcell_, use root!
           
         
        
          3396 [22:41:50] <towo`> not sudo  
         
        
          3397 [22:42:04] <towo`> so do sudo su, if you have no root account
           
         
        
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          3400 [22:42:20] <maxcell_> towo`, lol, it worked
           
         
        
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          3403 [22:42:32] <maxcell_> idk why  
         
        
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          3405 [22:42:52] <rotaticus> kb3vgw: its empty here ... what about
            /etc/network/interfaces
           
         
        
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          3410 [22:43:25] <maxcell_> ok i have the 20-nvidia.conf saying
            Driver "nvidia". What now?
           
         
        
          3411 [22:43:30] <kb3vgw> source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
           
         
        
          3412 [22:43:34] <kb3vgw> that 1 line  
         
        
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          3420 [22:45:10] <owgi> hello  
         
        
          3421 [22:45:16] <kb3vgw>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          3422 [22:45:19] <kb3vgw> not helping  
         
        
          3423 [22:45:23] <teo_> no wheezy 7.1.1 which is good linux-headers
            ?
           
         
        
          3424 [22:45:33] <teo_> which version ?  
         
        
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          3426 [22:45:37] <maxcell_> rpw, In section Device i should put
            TripleBuffer "1" or "TripleBuffer"
            "1"?
           
         
        
          3427 [22:45:38] <owgi> what package have the debug symbols for
            nouveau_dri.so ?
           
         
        
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          3429 [22:46:20] <LtL> teo_: you don't have an official debian
            kernel, where did you get that?
           
         
        
          3430 [22:46:53] <teo_> linuxcnc wheezy 2.1.1
           
         
        
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          3433 [22:47:16] <maxcell_> rpw, towo` should be Option
            "TripleBuffer" "true"
           
         
        
          3434 [22:47:17] <maxcell_> on 20-nvidia.conf ?
           
         
        
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          3436 [22:47:29] <teo_> yes for nvidia  
         
        
          3437 [22:47:43] <teo_> ggorce fx 5600 ?  
         
        
          3438 [22:47:50] <teo_> gforce fx 5600 ?  
         
        
          3439 [22:48:17] <towo`> teo_, again, that is not debian
           
         
        
          3440 [22:48:20] <DexterF> hi  
         
        
          3441 [22:48:26] <towo`> ask the vondor of that distro
           
         
        
          3442 [22:48:30] <teo_> i want insta;; nvidia-legacy-173xx-driver
            and linux headers
           
         
        
          3443 [22:48:42] <towo`> maxcell_, yes, in that file
           
         
        
          3444 [22:48:54] <maxcell_> towo`, sounds about right
           
         
        
          3445 [22:49:01] <maxcell_> Option "tripleBuffer"
            "true"
           
         
        
          3446 [22:49:04] <maxcell_> i will reboot  
         
        
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          3448 [22:49:10] <teo_> linux headers which file is ?
           
         
        
          3449 [22:49:14] <towo`> maxcell_, no reboot needed
           
         
        
          3450 [22:49:25] <DexterF> crackling sound in deb8 on intel hd
            onboard -> analog -> vintage amp, stereo. worked fine for
            years, now crackling on low frequencies. other inputs ok, can rule
            out amp/speakers
           
         
        
          3451 [22:49:26] <maxcell_> towo`, only log off right?
           
         
        
          3452 [22:49:28] <towo`> maxcell_, restart x i enaught
           
         
        
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          3454 [22:49:44] <DexterF> suspected pulse, killed it for good,
            issue stays. help?
           
         
        
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          3456 [22:49:48] <maxcell_> when i logoff the X gets reset right
           
         
        
          3457 [22:49:56] <maxcell_> no need to systemctl
           
         
        
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          3459 [22:50:15] <LtL> teo_: i suggest reading here,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          3461 [22:50:45] <teo_> 20 minutes timeout I can not take it
            anymore
           
         
        
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          3464 [22:51:08] <LtL> teo_: start over do it right
           
         
        
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          3472 [22:52:56] <maxcell_> towo`, rpw thank you both
           
         
        
          3473 [22:53:03] <maxcell_> towo`, rpw THE SCREEN TEARING HAS GONE!
           
         
        
          3474 [22:54:04] <Lockw00d> hello has someone installed debian 9 on
            a Mac Book Pro?
           
         
        
          3475 [22:54:08] <maxcell_> :))  
         
        
          3476 [22:54:37] <Lockw00d> and if so how is it working?
           
         
        
          3477 [22:55:07] <Lockw00d> i mean with a early 2015 retina mac
            book pro
           
         
        
          3478 [22:55:52] <Lockw00d> arch seems to be very well documented.
            the entries in the debian wiki seem to be a little bit outdated ...
           
         
        
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          3482 [22:56:40] <maxcell_> Lockw00d, man go with Debian
           
         
        
          3483 [22:56:48] <kb3vgw> figured it out  
         
        
          3484 [22:56:53] <kb3vgw> this is stupid  
         
        
          3485 [22:57:19] <kb3vgw> you have to put auto eth0 in the
            /etc/network/interfaces file
           
         
        
          3486 [22:57:33] <kb3vgw> and then it will read the eth0 config
            file
           
         
        
          3487 [22:57:45] <maxcell_> Lockw00d, it's so stable so good
            this system is amazing right now.
           
         
        
          3488 [22:58:23] <Lockw00d> maxcell_: I know i have it on my asus
            zenbook, but not on my mac book pro ...
           
         
        
          3489 [22:58:25] <bzed> Lockw00d: arch is always better documented,
            but you could get a wiki account in the debian wiki and help out ;)
           
         
        
          3490 [22:58:46] <maxcell_> Lockw00d, i already install fedora,
            deepin, ubuntu, arch, manjaro, solus. The better ones for me is Arch
            and Debian
           
         
        
          3491 [22:59:26] <maxcell_> you can do both ways but actually i
            prefer Debian 9 right now because the packages isn't old and
            the system is completly stable at the moment.
           
         
        
          3492 [22:59:28] <klys> ias anyone else been trying to have a
            debian i386+amd64 multiarch system?
           
         
        
          3493 [22:59:59] <maxcell_> klys, i think all you need to do is
            dpkg --add-architecture i386 | apt-get update ?
           
         
        
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          3495 [23:00:41] <klys> maxcell_, i am struggling. wht would you
            reccommend for users who want both versions of binutils installed?
           
         
        
          3496 [23:00:46] <maxcell_> Lockw00d, aren't old. you know
            what i mean. It just come out and it is very new and stable.
           
         
        
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          3498 [23:01:28] <maxcell_> klys, sorry, i have no idea, i just
            install some nvidia libs that is i386 to run Steam
           
         
        
          3499 [23:01:34] <n4dir> the stabilty of debian stable really
            doesn't change much when it gets older
           
         
        
          3500 [23:02:01] <maxcell_> n4dir, the packages gets old with him
           
         
        
          3501 [23:02:08] <Lockw00d> maxcell_: okay thanks for the
            suggestion ;)
           
         
        
          3502 [23:02:14] <n4dir> yup, but you also spoke of stability
           
         
        
          3503 [23:02:22] <maxcell_> n4dir, but right now, the packages
            aren't old
           
         
        
          3504 [23:02:30] <maxcell_> n4dir, so you have the best of two
            worlds.
           
         
        
          3505 [23:02:57] <maxcell_> for me, is the best system right now
           
         
        
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          3507 [23:03:15] <maxcell_> no matter if you are using it to be a
            server or desktop
           
         
        
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          3509 [23:03:52] <Lockw00d> bzed: maybe I will try it out with the
            arch wiki manuell for the mac book pro. Then I will create an
            account and update the debian article and write about the
            experiences i made with debian and a mac book pro from early 2015
            ...
           
         
        
          3510 [23:04:04] <n4dir> not all desktop users care much for new
            versions of software.
           
         
        
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          3512 [23:04:49] <Lockw00d> bzed: instead of arch i will install
            debian but i will use the arch wiki as reference for the
            installation ...
           
         
        
          3513 [23:04:51] <maxcell_> n4dir, lets say you work with images
            and videos, don't you need the latest Gimp and Kdenlive for
            example?
           
         
        
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          3515 [23:05:03] <dmkeast> Debian is the only system I've used
            that I know I can come back to in a week/month/year and everything
            will work just as it was last time
           
         
        
          3516 [23:05:25] <n4dir> not all people do care about such.
           
         
        
          3517 [23:05:35] <maxcell_> not all people doesn't either
           
         
        
          3518 [23:05:38] <n4dir> newer versions. If the old one does what
            you want to do ...
           
         
        
          3519 [23:05:57] <maxcell_> well, they improve their programs for a
            reason right
           
         
        
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          3521 [23:06:05] <Lockw00d> but there is nobody in this channel who
            already installed debian on a early 2015 mac book pro?
           
         
        
          3522 [23:06:26] <n4dir> Lockw00d: the subject comes up now and
            then. Try again later, perhaps.
           
         
        
          3523 [23:06:42] <Lockw00d> okay i will ;)  
         
        
          3524 [23:06:56] <maxcell_> Lockw00d, man you should try it out
           
         
        
          3525 [23:06:59] <klys> lockw00d, i've looked over a debian
            install on a macbook. they used bootcamp + grub-efi
           
         
        
          3526 [23:07:07] <maxcell_> Lockw00d, it it goes wrong, you just
            put Arch
           
         
        
          3527 [23:07:11] <maxcell_> if*  
         
        
          3528 [23:07:16] <n4dir> Lockw00d: you could also try
            forums.debian.net. I haven't been there for long, but the
            subject sure came up in the past.
           
         
        
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          3530 [23:07:40] <maxcell_> Lockw00d, you only take some minutes to
            install the Debian anyway
           
         
        
          3531 [23:07:48] <Lockw00d> n4dir: okay thanks i will check it out
            ;)
           
         
        
          3532 [23:08:25] <maxcell_> Lockw00d, i just think you gotta need
            the debian with non-free firmwares
           
         
        
          3533 [23:08:30] <Lockw00d> maxcell_: okay then i will do try and
            error ... the only thing that will take long is to back up my mac os
            x ...
           
         
        
          3534 [23:08:52] <Lockw00d> maxcell_: i think so too ... for wifi
            certainly ...
           
         
        
          3535 [23:08:57] <maxcell_> certainly  
         
        
          3536 [23:09:48] <maxcell_> it's a network install btw, this
            non-free firmware debian 9 version of installer
           
         
        
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          3538 [23:11:15] <Lockw00d> maxcell: okay so you need a network
            connection during the installation ...
           
         
        
          3539 [23:11:21] <maxcell_> yes  
         
        
          3540 [23:11:25] <maxcell_> you did  
         
        
          3541 [23:11:49] <maxcell_> if you have a cable it will work right
            away, idk about wifi tho
           
         
        
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          3543 [23:11:55] <Lockw00d> maxcell_: I have an ethernet to usb
            adapter, so it shouldn't be a problem ...
           
         
        
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          3546 [23:12:22] <teo_>
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          3547 [23:12:25] <Lockw00d> maxcell_: the mac book pro has no
            internet cable connection by default only usb ...
           
         
        
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          3549 [23:12:40] <maxcell_> Lockw00d, get it
           
         
        
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          3553 [23:13:17] <maxcell_> Lockw00d, you need to try out the
            non-free firmware debian to see if it will work. If doesn't,
            you can learn how to Wi-fi during the installation, idk how to do it
            nor if its possible, but i think it is
           
         
        
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          3555 [23:13:32] <teo_> can sameone help what is mean : Update the
            list of available packages. Install the appropriate linux-headers
            and kernel module packages:
           
         
        
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          3557 [23:14:46] <teo_> i see linux-headers on synaptic packet
            manager but i dont know which version ...
           
         
        
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          3559 [23:14:54] <Lockw00d> maxcell_: okay i will ;)
           
         
        
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          3561 [23:15:15] <alyssa_> Has anyone noticed regressions with
            Wacom tablets after a recent upgrade on testing?
           
         
        
          3562 [23:15:38] <owgi> can i install a jessie package on stretch?
           
         
        
          3563 [23:15:51] <towo`> owgi, depends  
         
        
          3564 [23:16:11] <n4dir> teo_: try uname -r ; though i think you
            can simply go for "apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ;
            or such.
           
         
        
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          3566 [23:16:24] <owgi> towo`: this package
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          3568 [23:16:43] <alyssa_> Previously, the USB tablet worked
            flawless. Now it is recognised as a mouse (creating a second cursor)
            with absolute positioning, but no tablet-specific features work.
            GNOME control center claims there is no tablet detected. Clicking
            down works in GNOME (to move windows and such) but not in Firefox or
            Krita.
           
         
        
          3569 [23:16:47] <owgi> towo`: you can see its only available for
            amd64 on jessie. not on stretch and not on sid
           
         
        
          3570 [23:16:50] <towo`> owgi, and what makes you tnink, you need
            that package?
           
         
        
          3571 [23:17:29] <towo`> and dbg-packages have to fit the binary
            versions, otherwise they would be useless
           
         
        
          3572 [23:17:50] <towo`> owgi, you want to read about debian and
            dbgsym
           
         
        
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          3577 [23:18:40] <owgi> towo`: i need debugging symbols for
            nouveau_dri.so:
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
          3578 [23:18:45] <teo_> n4dir it tell 3.4-9-rtai-686-pae
           
         
        
          3579 [23:19:02] <towo`> [23:17:50] <towo`> owgi, you want to
            read about debian and dbgsym
           
         
        
          3580 [23:19:20] <n4dir> teo_: haven't done it in a while. You
            can either search in synaptic for that exact kernel-headers version,
            or give the command i suggested a try
           
         
        
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          3582 [23:19:53] <n4dir> though i hope if it was plain wrong,
            someone would yell at me loud and clear (that is: i think the
            command is correct)
           
         
        
          3583 [23:20:21] <towo`> n4dir, the problem of teo_ is, it 's
            not debian
           
         
        
          3584 [23:20:28] <towo`> and told many times
           
         
        
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          3586 [23:20:40] <n4dir> aha. thanks towo  
         
        
          3587 [23:20:40] <teo_> debian is  
         
        
          3588 [23:20:45] <klys> alyssa, one of my machines has libwacom2
            0.22-1+b1 and it takes like five minutes to startx; another machine
            has libwacom2 0.24-1 and it has no such problem. both machines have
            xserver-xorg-input-wacom 0.34.99.1-1
           
         
        
          3589 [23:20:47] <towo`> teo_, no!  
         
        
          3590 [23:20:54] <towo`> linuxcrc is not debian
           
         
        
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          3594 [23:20:55] <maxcell_> haha  
         
        
          3595 [23:21:03] <teo_> lsb_release -a  
         
        
          3596 [23:21:11] <teo_> and its tell debian
           
         
        
          3597 [23:21:16] <n4dir> the command should work anyway. i think.
           
         
        
          3598 [23:21:21] <towo`> 3.4-9-rtai-686-pae is not a debian kernel,
            period
           
         
        
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          3600 [23:21:32] <towo`> n4dir, i would not bet my ass
           
         
        
          3601 [23:21:49] <towo`> because i would oracle, the kernel in that
            repo is now newer
           
         
        
          3602 [23:21:51] <n4dir> best would be he would ask the distro he
            uses. duh
           
         
        
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          3604 [23:22:03] <alyssa_> klys: hm okay, I have 0.24-1 for
            libwacom2 and 0.34.99.1-1 for xserver..
           
         
        
          3605 [23:22:26] <towo`> so apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname
            -r) possible gives a not found
           
         
        
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          3609 [23:23:50] <n4dir> got that. for wifi drivers there is a
            different version of that $(uname -r) command, it does some sed
            voodoo, if i recall correct. But i always got it working with the
            easy version (which i can remember :-) ). Doesn't help him
            much, still
           
         
        
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          3613 [23:25:30] <Valex> hi all , can someone help me to see if its
            correct do that on cronjob */5 * * * * /usr/bin/python
            /home/pi/zonkeynet/airbot_rx.py >/dev/null 2>&1
           
         
        
          3614 [23:25:43] <Valex> is this correct ?  
         
        
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          3622 [23:28:39] <alyssa_> klys: T_T  
         
        
          3623 [23:28:48] <alyssa_> some poking around /var/log revealed the
            problem is GNOME itself
           
         
        
          3624 [23:28:59] <alyssa_> tablet works flawlessly in i3
           
         
        
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          3630 [23:30:49] <alyssa_> well, I guess I've been looking for
            a reason to go back to MATE :^)
           
         
        
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          3650 [23:46:40] <teo_> towo why you tell me 10 times i dident have
            debian ?
           
         
        
          3651 [23:46:58] <towo`> because you have no debian
           
         
        
          3652 [23:47:20] <LtL> teo_: you have LinucCNC
           
         
        
          3653 [23:47:22] <towo`> your system is linuxcrc and your kernel is
            not a debian kernel
           
         
        
          3654 [23:47:24] <teo_> how can i test it  
         
        
          3655 [23:47:49] <towo`> what you want to test?
           
         
        
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          3657 [23:48:02] <towo`> your uname -r is saying all
           
         
        
          3658 [23:48:11] <teo_> the kernel, the version ...
           
         
        
          3659 [23:48:13] <towo`> you jou told many times, it's
            linuxcrc
           
         
        
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          3661 [23:48:19] <towo`> *you  
         
        
          3662 [23:48:39] <towo`> and linuxcrc is not debian, it's
            based on debian, maybe
           
         
        
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          3664 [23:49:25] <LtL> towo`: its for CNC machines and can be
            installed in debian
           
         
        
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          3666 [23:49:34] <LtL> afaik  
         
        
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          3668 [23:49:39] <teo_> with this lsb_release -a i see debian
           
         
        
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          3672 [23:50:21] <n4dir> jesus  
         
        
          3673 [23:50:30] <klys> why  
         
        
          3674 [23:51:19] <towo`> LtL, linuxcnc is saying, it's a
            distro based on debian, 3.4-9-rtai-686-pae is not a debian kernel
           
         
        
          3675 [23:51:47] <LtL> towo`: got it  
         
        
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          3684 [23:54:43] <ghormoon> ho, to use both 2mb and 1gb hugepages I
            somehow need to mount another mountpoint to access the 1gb ones?
            I've set some to allocate on boot, but obviusly qemu won't
            take those from /dev/hugepages, so I need to somehow manage another
            /dev/ mountpouint?
           
         
        
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          3690 [23:56:21] <teo_> to install my graphics card here its tell
            to install linux headers what it mean ?
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          3695 [23:57:30] <n4dir> you don't expect someone to explain
            to you how copy and paste works, do you?
           
         
        
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          3697 [23:57:48] <owgi> teo_: didnt nouveau work for you?
           
         
        
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          3699 [23:57:57] <teo_> is not good  
         
        
          3700 [23:58:09] <owgi> teo_: what is wrong with it?
           
         
        
          3701 [23:58:14] <teo_> i cant see good resulution
           
         
        
          3702 [23:58:28] <teo_> and fast graphics  
         
        
          3703 [23:58:36] <JC_Denton> strange thing. i've got two
            VMware VMs, both set with intel pro 1000 nics. upgraded both from
            jessie to stretch this week. one got the predictable network names,
            the other did not. the one that did not didn't have it
            explicitly disabled in grub, nor did it have a udev rule to set a
            persistent eth0. i'm puzzled.
           
         
        
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          3705 [23:59:05] <klys> teo_,
            replaced-url 
           
         
        
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          3711 [23:59:41] <imangerah> /msg dpkg install stretch
           
         
        
          3712 [23:59:52] <owgi> teo_: resolution? that is probably not
            nouveau but VESA. could you show the log of xorg?
           
         
        
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