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4[00:02:38] <awwal> I havGerowen, do you have any gnome
extension installed?
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14[00:07:08] <awwal> :D, mistake :D
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20[00:09:11] <Storfiskaren> Hey guys, about dist upgrades, it
says you shouldn't rely on X sessions managed by xdm, gdm or
kdim. Does that mean, I shouldn't perform dist upgrades using a
terminal emulator?
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41[00:13:16] <FinalX> Storfiskaren: You should preferably do it
on a console window or at least something that doesn't rely on
much (like X, GNOME etc.)
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49[00:15:15] <Storfiskaren> FinalX: That is, switch to one of
the ttys (Ctrl-Alt F1-6)
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56[00:17:28] <FinalX> Storfiskaren: yeah, that'd be better
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61[00:19:02] <Storfiskaren> FinalX: Thank you. I have done my
upgrades using a terminal emulator so far, but I guess I may have
been lucky.
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65[00:20:25] <FinalX> Storfiskaren: I think they should be fine
from any terminal, but it might upgrade things you're using and
make stuff act weird. Restarting the window manager would be
sufficient in that case, though
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108[00:38:02] <syadmin> awwal
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109[00:38:27] <syadmin> awwal: you're right sorry. I meant
that I cannot "afford" to install a whole DVD :)
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131[00:47:46] <bryant> herro
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132[00:47:57] <awwal> syadmin, it doesn't matter if you use
cd or dvd. if you dont want a desktop environement, just don't
select one when prompted for
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146[00:50:41] <[TheFlash]> what should i do if i want to make a
package, but it requires itself as a build-dependency?
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147[00:51:18] <markybob> you look in the mirror and ask yourself
wtf you're doing
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151[00:51:42] <[TheFlash]> markybob: lol, but, in this case it
really does
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153[00:51:49] <[TheFlash]> markybob: freebasic can't be
compiled without freebasic
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156[00:52:25] <[TheFlash]> markybob: mainly because it's
written in freebasic
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162[00:54:24] <syadmin> awwal: but will I be able to select one
with the netinstall?
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168[00:55:59] <markybob> syadmin: yes . which is what i told you
to use earlier
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169[00:56:03] <bipul> Do anyone in #iptables channel? could
he/she invite me there
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171[00:56:17] <markybob> bipul: it's #netfilter
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174[00:56:40] <awwal> syadmin, yes: lxde, xfce, mate, cinnamon,
gnome, kde (increasing size)
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175[00:57:12] <bipul> markybob, So it's name become
#netfilter?
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176[00:57:34] <syadmin> awwal: great thanks :)
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177[00:57:37] <markybob> bipul: the channel has always been
#netfilter
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178[00:58:12] <bipul> Oh i see, thank you markybob
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179[00:58:36] <awwal> syadmin, cinnamon, gnome & kde are the
heaviest
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183[01:00:13] <syadmin> awwal: xfce should be a good choice for
debian server in a VM?
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188[01:01:41] <awwal> syadmin, I dont run a server. can't
commment about that
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195[01:02:23] <teclo-> a server ? Well, for any server, I use no
window manager at all
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196[01:02:29] <markybob> syadmin: a server shouldn't have a
DE. but if you must, xfce is great. i use it (though on laptop)
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199[01:03:40] <syadmin> markybob: I know that it shouldnt but I
have some tasks to accomplish that would be pretty faster having a
DE... so I was looking for something stable and very lightweight :)
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200[01:03:58] <markybob> syadmin: xfce fits that
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201[01:03:59] <awwal> syadmin, xfce
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202[01:04:06] <syadmin> nice :) thanks guys
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259[01:32:43] <zerothis> I'm trying to compile moria
(source via apt-build). no "configure" and
"make" finds no targets'
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263[01:34:15] <markybob> zerothis: you know moria is in debian,
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264[01:34:34] <zerothis> there is a need if I want to change the
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266[01:34:59] <markybob> zerothis: so do apt-get source moria
then go into the dir it gets then dpkg-buildpackage -b -tc -uc
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267[01:35:09] <johnkeates> moria in debian? does sauron know?
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268[01:35:10] <markybob> the dpkg-buildpackage after you do the
changes
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run it in the wrong directory. It was already working, I'm
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316[01:56:39] <MaBunny> is there an app for reading epub
extension ebooks
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320[01:59:01] <markybob> MaBunny: fbreader is one
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322[01:59:13] <zerothis> thanks
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327[02:00:06] <MaBunny> fbreader...is it available in the repos
and does it hav anything to do with facebook???
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328[02:00:19] <markybob> ,v fbreader
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329[02:00:20] <judd> Package: fbreader on amd64 -- squeeze:
0.10.7dfsg-4; wheezy: 0.12.10dfsg-8; jessie: 0.12.10dfsg-9.1+b1;
stretch: 0.12.10dfsg2-1+b1; sid: 0.12.10dfsg2-1+b1
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330[02:00:23] <markybob> MaBunny: no
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333[02:00:56] <MaBunny> ok thnx :)
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334[02:01:04] <Alt__> Hi, how i can modify the services at the
start of my S.O.?
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337[02:03:05] <jmcnaught> Alt__: "S.O." ?
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338[02:03:48] <Alt__> jmcnaught, mistake is O.S
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339[02:03:59] <Alt__> jmcnaught, Operative System
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340[02:04:13] <MaBunny> also do you guys hav heard of conquest,a
space exploration game
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342[02:04:30] <MaBunny> i was searching their irc chan in
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343[02:05:07] <markybob> MaBunny: i've heard of konquest
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344[02:05:18] <markybob> ,v konquest
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346[02:05:21] <judd> Package: konquest on amd64 -- squeeze:
4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-3; jessie: 4:4.14.0-1; stretch:
4:15.08.0-1; sid: 4:15.08.0-2
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347[02:05:22] <MaBunny> no not the KDE
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348[02:05:25] <MaBunny> one
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352[02:06:17] <jmcnaught> Alt__: what exactly do you want to
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353[02:06:20] <MaBunny> thts their official site
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355[02:07:06] <markybob> MaBunny: no. debian has freeorion.
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357[02:07:49] <Alt__> jmcnaught, just want to stop some services
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358[02:07:59] <MaBunny> ok...but my computer wont support
tht...but thnx :D
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359[02:08:52] <jmcnaught> Alt__: if you're using Debian 8
(jessie) than the default init system changed to systemd. You'd
use "systemctl disable SERVICE" to disable a service at
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419[02:37:43] <Yaso> 32132
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437[02:42:29] <ryan57> is checkinstall still the preferred way
to build a package from a tarball?
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440[02:45:03] <abrotman> ryan57: generally, yes
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441[02:45:15] <ryan57> fair enough
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452[02:52:21] <jml2> i always thought tarballs were a sin in
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453[02:53:05] <abrotman> not everything is packaged by
maintainers, helps to have tools to control that type of
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upgrade a package of an older version from the repository? I ask
because GMP is being a pain
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install' upgrading gmp.h, but not the environmental variable or
whatnot for libgmp, leaving me with a conflict of 6.1/6.0
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523[03:43:47] <aypea[2]> so in systemd land, how do I get the
dmesg output from bootup?
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526[03:45:54] <markybob> aypea[2]: you type dmesg
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527[03:46:08] <dvs> too easy
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528[03:46:13] <aypea[2]> markybob: that gets me current dmesg. I
want to know what boot-up dmesg was
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529[03:46:28] <aypea[2]> markybob: this used to be stored in
/var/log/dmesg but is no longer there
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531[03:47:53] <markybob> aypea[2]: for that you need journalctl
and set storage.
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532[03:48:09] * aypea[2] has a look-see
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533[03:49:34] <aypea[2]> markybob: wont that be an attempt to
store /everything/ since boot? or am I missing something?
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535[03:50:55] <markybob> aypea[2]: you're right. but you
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537[03:51:16] <machinehum> Are some of the Deb repos down?
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538[03:51:17] <markybob> --since "20 min ago"
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539[03:51:31] <dvs> machinehum, some of them, probably.
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540[03:51:34] <machinehum> Err
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541[03:51:36] <machinehum> 403 Forbidden [IP: 132.246.2.23 80]
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542[03:52:07] <aypea[2]> markybob: hmm. sounds like overkill for
what I want. I may have to resort to rc.local here. I just need a
static store of a tiny bit of info from the "beginning of
time".
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543[03:52:12] <markybob> machinehum: yeah that's down here
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544[03:52:21] <dTal> is http-redir smart enough to avoid failing
mirrors?
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545[03:52:40] <dvs> machinehum, use
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546[03:52:42] <markybob> dTal: no. it kinda sucks
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548[03:53:43] <markybob> i can never find greycat's
httpredir factoid when i need it
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549[03:53:47] <dTal> Huh. Well I don't really know how it
works, but it works really well for me
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550[03:55:17] <dvs> !jessie source-list
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552[03:55:27] <dvs> !jessie sources-list
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553[03:55:32] <dvs> hmmmm
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554[03:56:05] <dvs> !jessie sources.list
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555[03:56:05] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
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556[03:56:34] <markybob> that factoid needs to be changed too.
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559[03:56:55] <markybob> to include the fact that httpredir
sucks and causes a lot of people problems
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560[03:57:20] <aypea[2]> markybob: thanks for your help, btw.
looks like I'll be rolling my own init.d script just to keep
things simple.
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561[03:57:36] <aypea[2]> /etc/init.d/bootlogs seems to be
permanently masked out. :/
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566[04:00:04] <markybob> !httpredir issues
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567[04:00:05] <dpkg> The <httpredir> service selects bad
mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly
choosing a mirror: "deb
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568[04:00:07] <markybob> found it
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570[04:00:34] <dvs> !prize markybob
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571[04:00:34] * dpkg gives markybob a beer.
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572[04:00:55] <markybob> dvs: already had a few, mate. probably
why it took me so long to find it ;)
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574[04:01:04] <dvs> heh
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590[04:11:51] <markybob> TomTomTosch: do you want a shell
account on my server so you can use screen to irc? you join/leave so
often :P free of course
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598[04:15:06] <n_blownapart> hi I'm getting this same
problem with duplicates for i386 packages..at least I think its a
duplicate problem. my machine is amd64. I'm trying to install
haskell. any idea? thanks :
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600[04:16:02] <markybob> n_blownapart: we don't support
ubuntu ppa's. we can't.
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602[04:16:50] <markybob> n_blownapart: that is what your problem
is. that ppa has ubuntu releases, not jessie. so it doesn't
work, thus 404.
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604[04:18:03] <n_blownapart> dang thanks markybob
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611[04:20:28] <n_blownapart> markybob, btw how would I remove
the command I did: sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:hvr/ghc ?
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613[04:21:57] <markybob> n_blownapart: it created a file in
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614[04:22:47] <n_blownapart> ok markybob thanks a lot
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633[04:35:22] <TomTomTosch> markybob: thanks man. i have a
server though, i'm just too lazy to set it up. i'll do it
eventually x)
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639[04:37:37] <SagelessFox2> I am looking for a light weight
desktop
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640[04:37:49] <SagelessFox2> Which offers only a few softwares
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642[04:38:15] <SagelessFox2> Is there any desktop like that?
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645[04:38:54] <markybob> SagelessFox2: you need to do your own
research because this gets into a touchy topic. i use xfce.
it's light and basically just works like i'd expect.
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646[04:39:01] <somiaj> SagelessFox2: lxde calls itself the light
desktop. You could try that, xfce4 is kinda light, but you may find
you would rather just run a windowmanger and isntall the sfotware
you want to
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650[04:42:04] <SagelessFox2> somiaj : lxde provides a basket of
softwares that I don't need. When I am trying to uninstall a
mail client on Debian's lxde , it says I must uninstall the
whole environment
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651[04:42:23] <SagelessFox2> :(
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652[04:42:32] <markybob> SagelessFox2: no it doesnt. it says you
need to uninstall the task package
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653[04:42:39] <somiaj> SagelessFox2: you don't have to
install the whole enviroment. You just have to remove the meta
package (and then change some of the auto flags.
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655[04:42:58] <somiaj> If you use apt instead of aptitude you
can see which packages it wants to autoremove and change the ones
you don't want to manual install
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661[04:43:52] <SagelessFox2> Hmm..
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662[04:44:23] <markybob> SagelessFox2: do you not know what
task/meta means? because that could clarify things
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664[04:44:49] <SagelessFox2> I am searching about them..
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665[04:44:56] <SagelessFox2> In my first language
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666[04:45:09] <SagelessFox2> I don't know those names
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668[04:45:38] <markybob> SagelessFox2: they're kind of fake
packages that include a ton of packages just to make things easier
to install. you don't need them and they contain nothing. they
just bring in things when installed
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670[04:45:58] <markybob> SagelessFox2: when you remove them, the
packages they brought in don't get removed
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671[04:46:26] <somiaj> (unless they are marked auto, then
without the meta package to hold them in, apt will want to remove
them -- aptitude and synamptic will remove them without asking
first)
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672[04:46:58] <somiaj> SagelessFox2: the other option is during
the isntall don't install the big meta package but only isntall
the bits you need.
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675[04:48:08] <SagelessFox2> So the meta packages aren't
necessary I mean they are not the dependences of lxde?
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676[04:48:25] <somiaj> SagelessFox2: they are just packages that
depend on other packages to make install groups of packages easier
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677[04:48:40] <markybob> SagelessFox2: correct
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679[04:49:20] <SagelessFox2> Thx markybob somiaj :)
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794[06:19:08] <nix1947> hello everyone, lsusb command is hangs
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795[06:19:39] <markybob> nix1947: lsb_release -a says what?
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810[06:26:08] <markybob> nix1947: it's really great when
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811[06:27:09] <nix1947> markybob: sorry, I just forget to see
the client, sorry
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813[06:27:38] <nix1947> No LSB modules are available.
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814[06:27:38] <nix1947> Distributor ID: Debian
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815[06:27:38] <nix1947> Description: Debian GNU/Linux 8.4
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816[06:27:38] <nix1947> Release: 8.4
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817[06:27:38] <nix1947> Codename: jessie
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823[06:28:17] <nix1947> markybob: I am using debian 8
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842[06:35:09] <nix1947> markybob: this is the output of
lsbrelase -a
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864[06:49:12] <n_blownapart> hi sorry if I download with a curl
command but haven't unpacked anything yet, how do I find the
file to remove it?
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869[06:54:43] <n_blownapart> I used this command and would like
to remove anything on my system associated with this. How to remove
it? : curl -sL
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872[06:56:13] <nix1947> why lsusb hanging forever in my debian
8, does anybody knows about it
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directory for the file
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953[07:33:43] <nix1947> does anyone know the reason behind lsusb
command hanging forever
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954[07:33:56] <nix1947> in my debian 8 jessie, lsusb commands
hangs forever
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957[07:37:05] <pseudo> nix1947: which command?
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958[07:37:26] <nix1947> pseudo: #lsusb => this command hangs
forever in my debian8
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959[07:37:43] <nix1947> and my all usb port stop responding,
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961[07:38:44] <pseudo> are you on a vm?
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962[07:39:20] <pseudo> in debian8 with my amd64 its still
working
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965[07:39:58] <pseudo> it detects a all avails usb broadband
modem
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966[07:40:18] <pseudo> do u try sudo lsusb?
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974[07:41:39] <pseudo> hmmmm
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976[07:42:15] <nix1947> pseudo: I am running as a root user
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977[07:42:42] <pseudo> try start of rebooting a machine? btw
issit a server ?
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979[07:42:47] <nix1947> when i do #lsusb this commands hangs
forever, and I need to restart another terminal to work on.
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980[07:43:06] <nix1947> pseudo: yes it is a server, I can't
do that,
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981[07:43:46] <pseudo> unplug and free the ysb ports and try
execute lsusb
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982[07:43:51] <nix1947> pseudo: I get this kind of wired
problems: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.0-1.6/input0, status
-108
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983[07:43:51] <nix1947> when I ran dmesg command
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984[07:44:49] <nix1947> pseudo: I have done that, but no change
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985[07:45:32] <pseudo> not sure though...wait for the others to
response
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986[07:46:35] <nix1947> pseudo: ok thanks
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988[07:47:09] <nix1947> pseudo: do you know how to downgrade the
usbutils package,
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990[07:49:30] <pseudo> nix1947: not sure i'm on default
setup..
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991[07:49:45] <nix1947> pseudo: ok thanks
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995[07:52:44] <jmcnaught> nix1947: is the server remote or can
you unplug USB devices?
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998[07:53:16] <nix1947> jmcnaught: the server is on my server, I
can plug usb devices,
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999[07:53:56] <nix1947> server is on our server room, I can plug
usb devices, but none of the usb devices are recognized, even usb
mouse and keyboard, I am accessing server remotely, using ssh
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1001[07:54:59] <jmcnaught> is anything plugged in right now? if
you can't reboot the server, maybe you can try reloading the
kernel modules
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1003[07:56:33] <nix1947> jmcnaught: yes, which module all kernel
modules
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1006[07:57:41] <jmcnaught> nix1947: no not everything. start with
"lspci -k | grep -A2 USB"
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1008[07:58:49] <nix1947> jmcnaught:
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1009[07:59:28] <jmcnaught> nix1947: take a look at "lsmod |
grep ehci"
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1011[08:00:34] <nix1947> jmcnaught:
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1012[08:01:40] <nix1947> jmcnaught: when i do lsmod all those
modules are already lodaded,
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1025[08:06:36] <jmcnaught> nix1947: if everything USB related is
nonresponsive then you could try removing and loading the modules
using modprobe, but i don't know what's connected by USB
on your system or what the consequences might be.
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1028[08:07:18] <slax0r> hello, I am having issues when booting
back from hibernation, my previos xrandr setup is not retained, and
when I re-run it, my whole system freezes, so I have to "push a
pillow over its head" and boot it up normally again, here are
some logs: xorg:
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1029[08:07:22] <jmcnaught> nix1947: from your error example it
looks to me like some USB device is locked in a state that the
kernel can't change for some reason
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1030[08:07:54] <nix1947> jmcnaught: I connected the usb mouse,
keyboard, and backupdrive, backupdrive is working but other usb
devices is not working,
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1031[08:08:09] <slax0r> those logs provide me with very little
info, or I am just reading them wrong, is there some other log I can
inspect? oh right, kernel is 4.5.0 bpo from jessie backports, and
the i5 skylake gfx
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1032[08:08:24] <nix1947> jmcnaught: yes, I have got some message
usb 2-1.6: reset full-speed USB device number 32 using ehc from my
dmesg output
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1034[08:10:03] <jmcnaught> nix1947: keep researching error
message i guess, reloading all the USB modules is not an option
while the backup drive is being used
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1036[08:10:24] <nix1947> jmcnaught: ok thank you for your
guidance, I will
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1082[08:37:46] <avis-> what are possible methods for upgrading to
a higher kernel in debian without compiling it yourself ?
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1083[08:38:00] <avis-> using jessie that is
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1085[08:40:27] <reev> Hii I installled i3 window manager and
select i3 from update-alternatives --x-window-manager by default it
is metacity but when i restart gdm3 I don't see i3 there, same
old setup
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1088[08:40:35] <reev> how can i configure i3
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1089[08:42:42] <babilen> reev: You essentially select it in the
list of window managers in gdm3. It should be listed there and there
shouldn't be the need to update alternatives at all
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1093[08:44:23] <reev> babilen: how to select in list of window
managers in gdm3
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1094[08:44:29] <reev> any command?
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1106[08:52:51] <babilen> reev: You type your user name and hit
enter. Then there's a little gear shaped icon, click on it and
select your session or, depending on your version, you might have a
drop down menu
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1107[08:54:03] <babilen>
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1118[09:02:31] <Guest25335> Has anyone in here been able to
install Xen without running into issues?
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1122[09:04:43] <Guest25335> I'm contemplating to install
Qubes OS (for their effortless setup)
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1135[09:10:21] <reev> babilen: thanks for that but I had
automatic user login enabled in /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf which i turned
off now but i get login by it
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1136[09:10:31] <reev> *still
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1141[09:12:49] <babilen> reev: I have never used that feature,
but I guess that you have to somehow "select" your
user's favourite session. It probably uses whatever you used
last time.
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1142[09:13:47] <reev> babilen: okay I see what can i do
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1146[09:15:03] <babilen> But if you turn of automatic login, why
is it still turned on?
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1244[10:13:51] <alakx> Hi, how can i check the build version of a
installed package via apt-get ? For example for the package openssl
?
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1254[10:20:46] <samneo> for checking installed package dpkg -l
openssl
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1255[10:21:02] <ochurlaud-work> Hi, I'm trying to find a
package. It has the same name in the jessie-backports and jessie
repos but I want to use the backport one.
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1257[10:21:31] <ochurlaud-work> By default, the jone from jessie
is installed. how can I force the repo to use?
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1258[10:21:38] <bhav> samneo hi
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1262[10:21:59] <samneo> apt-get provide information from
repository
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1263[10:22:01] <samneo> like apt-cache showpkg openssl
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1266[10:23:18] <k_sze[work]> How do I figure out how udev has
decided to name my tty device? i.e. why is my barcode scanner
/dev/ttyACM0, and not some other tty name?
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1269[10:23:41] <ochurlaud-work> samneo: ok, I see that: it's
the same info I got from the debian website. but how do I set that
during the install?
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1271[10:23:49] <ochurlaud-work> so that it peaks the right one?
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1273[10:24:13] <ochurlaud-work> s/peak/pick
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1288[10:32:54] <ochurlaud-work> samneo: found with the aptitude
terminal gui. idk with the command line but it's still ok
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1293[10:34:00] <pingfloyd> ochurlaud-work: apt-get -t
jessie-backports install "package"
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1295[10:34:45] <ochurlaud-work> pingfloyd: that's why the -t
option never worked ;) Promise I'll RTFM
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1297[10:34:57] <pingfloyd> ochurlaud-work: what?
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1300[10:35:32] <ochurlaud-work> pingfloyd: I was using aptitude
install -t 5.200 package
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1301[10:35:45] <ochurlaud-work> with 5.200 the version of the
package
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1302[10:36:03] <pingfloyd> you don't use version, you use
the archive for -t
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1304[10:37:01] <pingfloyd> actually maybe you can, but did you
try the target release instead?
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1305[10:37:22] <pingfloyd> i.e., jessie-backports
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1306[10:37:56] <ochurlaud-work> pingfloyd: I don't know what
you mean by target release. but anyway, command is perfect. thx
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1361[11:13:56] <Arthur_D> could anyone help me with this?
replaced-url
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1369[11:19:17] <phz_> hi
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1370[11:19:47] <phz_> I have a weight balance connected to a tty
(/dev/ttyUSBn); I can’t have it around every time, so
I’d like to mimic it
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1371[11:20:19] <phz_> is there a way to create a /dev/tty-dummy
and have it sending stuff for me to test like a weight balance was
plugged in?
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1378[11:23:32] <ancky> phz_: looks like you want a loopback
serialport
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1379[11:23:48] <phz_> well
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1380[11:23:55] <phz_> I need to send stuff in a file
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1381[11:23:56] <phz_> like
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1382[11:23:58] <phz_> hm
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1383[11:24:00] <phz_> in a pipe
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1406[11:34:30] <phz_> is there a way to prevent the echo command
from sending EOF?
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1409[11:37:19] <FinalX> not that I know of, no
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1410[11:37:27] <FinalX> only EOL, with -n
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1411[11:37:43] <phz_> ah
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1412[11:37:50] <phz_> that’s boring
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1413[11:38:09] <phz_> I need to find a way to keep the pipe open
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1414[11:38:28] <phz_> I’m reading in the pipe in python
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1418[11:39:48] <FinalX> not sure how you could go about leaving
"echo" running and being able to send more text through
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1501[12:36:30] <aypea[2]> goddamn. how hard can it be to tell
systemd not to start X11. :/
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1511[12:45:50] <Megaf> Hi all, I'm on Debian Jessie
Backports, I'd like to install linux-image-4.6.0-trunk-amd64
from experimental, but when I do apt
installlinux-image-4.6.0-trunk-amd64 it wants to remove task-desktop
task-mate-desktop xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
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1512[12:45:56] <Megaf> and that is not good
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1517[12:47:33] <ChrisWi> having some stange log messages flodding
my kernel.log ...
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1519[12:48:14] <ChrisWi> I talk about 500 - 1000 per second
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1521[12:49:27] <Megaf> are you using Xen ChrisWi ?
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1522[12:50:44] <plasmoduck> Is there any app to search and play
youtube clips in terminal? Audio only obviously.
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1527[12:52:47] <plasmoduck> mpv
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1528[12:52:54] <Megaf> I know you can download them with
youtube-dl and play with mpv, maybe use a terminal browser like w3m
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1530[12:53:08] <Megaf> mpv can even play videos in your terminal
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1531[12:53:15] <plasmoduck> Really?
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1532[12:53:16] <plasmoduck> Wow
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1533[12:53:24] <Megaf> but I'm not aware of a console
application that can do all 3 things
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1534[12:53:43] <plasmoduck> I might code one
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1535[12:54:03] <Megaf> shoulnd't be too difficult, we
already have all tools, as I just said
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1536[12:54:11] <plasmoduck> youterm
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1537[12:54:22] <plasmoduck> youtube-terminal
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1575[13:12:41] <ychaouche> Hi #debian
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1576[13:12:57] <ychaouche> anyone familiar with this error ?
Cancelled or /usr/bin/whiptail execution error(256)
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1577[13:13:08] <ychaouche> I get this when I try to run rcconf
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1578[13:13:13] <ychaouche>
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1628[13:42:16] <f0f4r> can I update apache2.2 in debian wheezy
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1629[13:43:52] <markybob> f0f4r: to what?
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1633[13:46:38] <f0f4r> to apache2.4 for security update
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1635[13:47:08] <markybob> f0f4r: no. apache 2.2 in wheezy gets
security updates backported. it's safe
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1637[13:47:21] <phz_> I don’t get it
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1639[13:47:34] <phz_> I’m using tee to forward stdin into a
disk pipe
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1640[13:47:41] <phz_> like
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1641[13:47:48] <phz_> mkfifo ./tty; tee > tty
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1642[13:48:04] <phz_> and I’m opening that tty pipe in a
python application with open('./tty', 'r', 0)
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1643[13:48:17] <phz_> to read what I’m typing in with a for
line in fh
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1644[13:48:23] <phz_> I have to exit the tee program to get input
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1645[13:48:28] <phz_> wtf?
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1647[13:48:38] <jelly> is called "named pipe", and the
reads will be buffered by default
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1648[13:48:47] <phz_> until it reaches EOF?
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1649[13:48:58] <jelly> so if you write more than... 8192 bytes, I
think, you'll get a read() out
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1650[13:49:02] <phz_> I tried running it with stdbuf -i0 -o0 -e0
though
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1651[13:49:17] <phz_> jelly: how can I change that behavior?
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1653[13:50:13] <jelly> dunno how that's done in python.
Actually I don't even remember if the buffering is write() side
or read() side or both
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1654[13:50:49] <jelly>
replaced-url
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1655[13:51:07] <phz_>
replaced-url
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1656[13:51:10] <phz_> not that much information there
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1657[13:51:41] <ChrisWi> Megaf: Yes ... xen. I have 4 hosts ...
but I see this only on two. the two with this log flodding have 2
targets (LUN) ... Any idea ?
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1658[13:51:50] <phz_> jelly:
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1659[13:51:56] <phz_> thanks for your help
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1662[13:52:44] <phz_> nope, still buffering
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1663[13:52:46] <phz_> ffs
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1669[13:54:11] <jelly> phz_: at least one of the results suggests
opening in binary mode, 'rb'
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1671[13:55:18] <f0f4r> markybob: I don't see any candidate
version
replaced-url
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1673[13:56:38] <markybob> f0f4r: you have the latest. you're
good. safe. i don't know what you're complaining about.
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1677[13:57:50] <sypher> f0f4r: You already have the latest 2.2
release with backported security fixes. Is there a particular
vulnerability that you find hasn't been addressed?
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1678[13:58:21] <FinalX> heh, we keep getting mails from worried
customers as well, "you're running a very old apache and
php! why haven't you upgraded! it's not safe!"... all
patches applied, of course.
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1679[13:58:41] <FinalX> people just see older versions and
immediately assume things are insecure tbh
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1680[13:58:56] <f0f4r> I would like to know if there is any cve
that my webserver has
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1682[13:59:14] <Megaf> ChrisWi, maybe on #Xen ?
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1684[13:59:52] <markybob> f0f4r: you really just can't
accept that security gets backported, eh? we're not going to do
your meaningless work for you. google it.
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1687[14:00:29] <jelly> f0f4r: use security-tracker.debian.org to
look up any CVE and see if it's patched
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1688[14:00:38] <jelly> also,
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1690[14:00:42] <jelly> !debsecan
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1691[14:00:42] <dpkg> methinks debsecan is a program that reports
security advisories against programs installed on the host, similar
to gentoo's glsa-check. See
replaced-url
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1697[14:01:30] <f0f4r> jelly: ok, I will try to that site
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1699[14:02:30] <jelly> f0f4r: if a patch for a known security
issue is applied to the version in your debian release, you will
usually see it mentioned in the changelog for the package. zless
/usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/changelog.Debian.gz
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1710[14:04:45] <jelly> markybob: sometimes an admin has bosses,
auditors or customers that want more concrete proof than
"<markybob> f0f4r: you have the latest. you're good.
safe. i don't know what you're complaining about."
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1714[14:05:51] <jelly> distro's security tracker is a useful
reference for such a purpose
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1715[14:05:54] <irwiss> does dpkg care if something is a real
folder or symlink? i'd like to move /etc/nginx/ to /replaced-url
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1716[14:06:27] <f0f4r> Using debsecan I don't see any cve
for apache
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1717[14:06:33] <f0f4r> Using debsecan I don't see any cve
for apache
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1718[14:07:14] <jelly> irwiss: afair, you can only get in trouble
after you purge all the packages that bring /etc/nginx directory, I
_think_ that gets the symlink removed
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1719[14:07:20] <domth7> Hi, my browser (Arora, surf, uzbl) crash,
and i've found this messege in the term:"Illegal
Instruction". My pc is too old, any ideas?
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1720[14:07:24] <ChrisWi> Megaf: ok will try ... you have no idea
about those messages to get rid off ?
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1721[14:07:40] <Megaf> nope
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1722[14:08:16] <jelly> f0f4r: that means it's all patched
up, as far as debian knows
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1724[14:09:51] <jelly> assuming you're using debsecan right.
Mine just found something very very old on this machine...
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1725[14:09:53] <jelly> ii apache-common 1.3.34-4.1+etch1 i386
support files for all Apache webservers
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1727[14:12:09] <irwiss> jelly: that makes sense i guess, not
planning on purging but backup is on the roadmap once it's
settled, thanks
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1753[14:25:47] <AlexPortable> No installable kernel was found in
the defined APT sources
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1754[14:26:00] <AlexPortable> you may try to continue without a
kernel, and manually install your own kernel later. this is only
recommended for experts
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1755[14:26:13] <AlexPortable> debian-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso
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1758[14:26:38] <digidog> Hi hello everyone, I am sort of
confused: Laptop ACER V3 772G suddenly reboots without warning
randomly with Debian 8 installed, no matter which application runs
or if CPU etc is high or not.
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1760[14:28:14] <ChrisH> digidog: mcelog installed? That might
help detecting a HW issue. Sounds more like a HW problem to me.
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1767[14:33:27] <cruncher> digidog, and it worked well before?
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1774[14:35:14] <cruncher> or did you just install debian?
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1779[14:36:23] <digidog> ChrisH: cruncher: hard to say, its a
laptop I have prepared for somebody who didnt used it a lot. now it
stands here and I test it and it seems sth wrong. cpu goes up 72%
when I try to remove hplip. maybe thats the devil
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1780[14:37:10] <digidog> shutdown mostly is regarding overhead
(security stop)
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1781[14:37:28] <cruncher> so you just installed it, it works, but
has high cpu usage, and suddenly reboots (not poweroff)
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1784[14:39:25] <cruncher> digidog, overhead? you mean overheat?
so it turns off, not reboots
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1786[14:39:46] <digidog> cruncher: Isry, yes I was referring to
heat.
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1787[14:40:01] <cruncher> then i guess its a hw problem
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1788[14:40:02] <digidog> cruncher: it sometomes shuts down,
sometimes reboots
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1789[14:40:24] <digidog> cruncher: I have remove hplip now and
now cpu usage goes down to 55
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1790[14:40:36] <digidog> remove(d)
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1791[14:40:45] <cruncher> so what is using the cpu?
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1792[14:41:15] <cruncher> but basically its clear, somethig is
using the cpu, it gets hot, and as it cant cool it enough it turns
off
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1793[14:41:21] <cruncher> basically you have 2 problems
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1794[14:41:26] <digidog> cruncher: hplip 12 %. maybe its more
obvious today since here are 30 degress so the room is much warmer
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1796[14:42:00] <cruncher> yes, that too :) if you would sit in
alaska it wouldnt happen probably :P
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1798[14:42:14] <digidog> cruncher: now it runs normal after
removing hplip ->
replaced-url
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1799[14:42:23] <digidog> cruncher: :-D
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1800[14:42:45] <cruncher> well, if you identified hplip as the
culprit...
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1801[14:43:09] <cruncher> im particularly interested because i
was thinking to get the E5-773 laptop, and was curious how it works
with debian
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1802[14:43:18] <digidog> cruncher: I agree with you, I think also
there are more then one issue. maybe hplip messed up somehow and
eats a lot, but thats with 12% not issue enogh for the overheat
actually
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1804[14:44:38] <Trieste> hey, /proc/cpuinfo says both cores of my
cpu are running at around 230MHz (this is a 3.3GHz machine at full
load) - what could this mean?
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1806[14:45:21] <digidog> cruncher: any good hw test utisl for
debian to check if all cores runs ok etc ?
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1807[14:45:27] <markybob> it means it's on
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1808[14:45:42] <Trieste> markybob: but why is the frequency so
low?
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1809[14:45:44] <dTal> I was gonna say that they've been
clocked down for powersave, but that seems unusually low
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1812[14:45:51] <markybob> i have chrome alone using 26% right now
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1813[14:46:03] <Trieste> markybob: the cores themselves are
running at 230 MHz
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1814[14:47:07] <Trieste> dTal: I was thinking it's hardware
failure, as I do recall a weird message about overheating appearing
once in dmesg - but not since, and I've even cleaned the fans,
and changed nothing in BIOS...
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1815[14:47:17] <markybob> i've never seen that. the computer
would always shut itself off if it got so hot it had to run that
slowly
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1817[14:48:07] <cruncher> digidog, did you try what ChrisH
suggested?
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1818[14:48:44] <dTal> Trieste: if you switch your CPU governor to
"Performace" does it go to full speed?
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1819[14:48:56] <dTal> maybe your CPU just supports unusually low
clock speeds
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1821[14:49:00] <Trieste> dTal: how would I do that?
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1822[14:49:52] <Trieste> (by the way, the load is roughly about
at 2.5)
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1825[14:50:45] <dTal> depends on your chipset, usually you can
cat something somewhere in /sys
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1827[14:51:15] <digidog> cruncher: sry, that was run out of the
view here
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1831[14:51:45] <digidog> ChrisH: sry, I didn't kep in mind
your answer. I will check
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1832[14:51:58] <Trieste> ooh, so there is something interesting
in dmesg after all
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1833[14:52:23] <Trieste> "Core temperature above threshold,
cpu clock throttled" and "Package temperature above
threshold, cpu clock throttled"
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1834[14:52:38] <Trieste> but what the heck
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1836[14:53:22] <cruncher> digidog, you could try the intel
processor diagnostic tool from Intel
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1837[14:53:24] <cruncher>
replaced-url
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1838[14:53:29] <cruncher> but i dont know if it works with debian
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1839[14:53:48] <cruncher> but honestly i doubt the cpu is
"broken"
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1842[14:55:43] <javier_> Hace días que no puedo conectarme
a ddtp.debian.net, el sitio de traducción de la
descripción de paquetes de Debian.
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1844[14:56:08] <markybob> !es
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1845[14:56:08] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en
Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en
Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join
#debian-es en la línea de chat.
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1846[14:56:16] <javier_> Sorry, this is the general channel, not
the spanish one
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1848[14:56:38] <javier_> I'm sorry.
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1851[14:58:12] <javier_> These days, the package tranlation site
seems to be off line. Anybody knows why?
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1859[15:02:14] <telecity> mail question: what if I just want to
send via CLI a few logging-related mails to an external mailbox,
nothing more.. as minimalistic as possible - what can I use?
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1879[15:10:37] <gypsymauro> hi
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1882[15:10:58] <gypsymauro> there is a way to inver the priority
of the routing based on interfaces?
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1883[15:11:24] <gypsymauro> I've an openvpn server, but I
found that the eth0's routes are displayed before the tun0 ones
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1893[15:14:17] <darxmurf> anybody for a quick mysql help ?
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1895[15:14:49] <ChrisH> !ask
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1896[15:14:49] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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1901[15:15:31] <darxmurf> I have mysql entries like "/This
is my text 2015/picture.jpg" and I want to turn it like
"/2015 This is my text/picture.jpg"
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1902[15:15:41] <darxmurf> and of course I have this from 2005 to
2015
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1904[15:16:04] <darxmurf> is there any regex+back ref. tools in
mysql ?
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1905[15:16:32] <abrotman> darxmurf: thought about asking ..
#mysql ?
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1906[15:16:33] <FinalX> UPDATE sometable SET
somefield=REPLACE(somefield,'/xxx//','/yyy/');
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1907[15:16:42] <darxmurf> yep
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1908[15:16:56] <darxmurf> but I have lots of different
"text" before the year
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1910[15:17:08] <darxmurf> abrotman: yep :) I'll try
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1911[15:17:13] <petn-randall> darxmurf: You can probably build a
(Perl) script that does that. Are you using some kind of photo
manager? Most allow bulk moving files via plugin.
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1912[15:17:42] <darxmurf> yep it's a gallery tool for WP but
it's not managing files quite well O
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1913[15:17:43] <darxmurf> Oo
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1914[15:17:55] <darxmurf> if you rename a folder it does not
change the mysql entries \o/
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1917[15:18:05] <defanor> telecity: there are programs such as
sSMTP if you want to use a remote server, and postfix or exim
otherwise. or even mbsync, if you want to put letters in a remote
mailbox via imap
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1919[15:18:24] <FinalX> darxmurf: worst case scenario, if it
really is just a wordpress database, perhaps just dump it, do it
with commandline tools like sed, and then re-read the dump back in?
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1927[15:19:14] <telecity> defanor: yup, remote-only
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1929[15:19:42] <darxmurf> FinalX: yep I was thinking about that
too :)
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1930[15:19:52] <darxmurf> but will check in mysql tools before
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1931[15:20:21] <telecity> defanor: what about nullmailer?
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1934[15:20:27] <darxmurf> but it will probably quite easier to do
that with SED
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1935[15:20:27] <darxmurf> :D
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1939[15:21:07] <telecity> darxmurf: so what's stopping you
to do dump the db, purge and then re-add after seding?
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1941[15:21:13] <FinalX> yeah.. :) and this also confirms that you
can't do regex,
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1942[15:21:17] <FinalX> telecity: I just said that xD
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1943[15:21:33] <telecity> FinalX: sorry didn't pay attention
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1949[15:22:33] <defanor> telecity: idk, haven't tried it
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1951[15:22:39] <darxmurf> okay apparently there is no regex
replace tools in mysql, let's go for the dump :)
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1953[15:22:49] <j`ey> hi, Im in the installer, and dropped to the
ash shell. i'm trying to mount my hard disk, but just keep
getting "file or directory not found" errors from mount
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1954[15:22:52] <j`ey> any ideas?
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1955[15:23:03] <j`ey> (I have mkdir /mnt/x, so it does exist)
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1959[15:23:57] <telecity> j`ey: you're trying to mount a
partition or the whole disk?
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1961[15:24:07] <j`ey> partition
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1962[15:24:19] <telecity> j`ey: does it show up on
'blkid' or 'lsblk'?
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1964[15:24:39] <j`ey> yep
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1965[15:24:58] <telecity> j`ey: with the correct fs type?
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1966[15:25:00] <dvs> both?
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1968[15:25:11] <j`ey> blkid, I dont have lsblk
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1969[15:25:24] <j`ey> telecity: yeah, ext4
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1970[15:25:52] <telecity> wu
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1971[15:25:53] <telecity> wut
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1972[15:25:59] <telecity> aren't they both from
"util-linux"
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1973[15:26:30] <telecity> file -s "full-path"
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1974[15:26:31] <j`ey> I guess blkid might be from busybox?
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1979[15:27:29] <telecity> jelly: indeed i missed that part
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1981[15:27:51] <AlexPortable> how to install linux kernel?
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1982[15:27:56] <AlexPortable> apt-get ?
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1983[15:28:03] <naptastic> apt-get install linux-image
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1985[15:28:10] <naptastic> I think
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1986[15:28:14] <fireba11> (or just "apt" on jessie)
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1987[15:28:27] <naptastic> but if you're already running
Debian, you already have a kernel installed :)
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1988[15:28:30] <FinalX> ...I couldn't get used to "just
apt" :)
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1989[15:28:37] <naptastic> fireba11, what?? OMG
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1991[15:28:47] <fireba11> FinalX: ah well ... it got a progess
bar(tm) :-D
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1993[15:28:54] <FinalX> :D
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1994[15:29:00] <telecity> j`ey: try "file -s" with
proceeding full path to the disk/part
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1995[15:29:14] <AlexPortable> naptastic: No installable kernel
was found in the defined APT sources. you may try to continue
without a kernel, and manually install your own kernel later. this
is only recommended for experts
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1996[15:29:15] <FinalX> it's more that apt-get is kinda
hardwired when I'm typing
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1997[15:29:16] <j`ey> I dont have "file" :(
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1998[15:29:50] <AlexPortable> Package linux-image is not
avaiiable, but is referred to by another package
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1999[15:29:50] <FinalX> so much that if I need to use apt-cache,
I already typed apt-get and then have to backspace 4 times and type
cache ;)
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2000[15:29:53] <naptastic> FinalX, yep... and RHEL / CentOS are
going from yum -> dnf in a couple of years...
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2001[15:29:55] <AlexPortable> e: package linux-image has no
intallation candidate
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2003[15:30:12] <digidog> cruncher: thanks for all the cues. well
yeah I doubt its the cpu two. but I will try more hw test utils and
check if anything intersting pops up and let you know (because of
ACER)
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2004[15:30:12] <fireba11> FinalX: also it seems you still need
things like apt-cache
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2009[15:30:29] <fireba11> AlexPortable: how did you manage that?
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2011[15:30:34] <naptastic> AlexPortable, what version of Debian
is this? `cat /etc/debian_version`
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2012[15:30:41] <AlexPortable> debian-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso
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2013[15:30:43] <naptastic> also, yeah, what did you do? :|
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2015[15:30:47] <naptastic> ok
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2016[15:30:49] <AlexPortable> i installed it
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2018[15:30:55] <AlexPortable> and it said this
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2019[15:30:55] <FinalX> oops, which reminds me, I have to send an
e-mail back to the guy who helped me when I e-mailed the
APT-maintainers.. I'm awful, didn't even thank him o.O
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2020[15:30:58] <telecity> j`ey: oh well. does "dmesg"
show you any hints?
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2022[15:31:09] <gypsymauro> it seems that newver versions of
debian has changed rourint priority ? on older debian I've
192.168.1.0 routing then 0.0.0.0 on newer I've before 0.0.0.0
then 192.168.1.0, how can I change this behavioour?
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2027[15:31:40] <j`ey> telecity: nope :(
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2028[15:31:53] <naptastic> AlexPortable, what's the output
of `uname -a` ?
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2029[15:31:54] <telecity> j`ey: strace the mount? idk
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2031[15:32:16] <j`ey> no strace either :P
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2032[15:32:22] <AlexPortable> naptastic linux debian
3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 smp debian 3.16.7-ckt25-1 (2016-03-06) x86_64
GNU/Linux
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2033[15:32:23] <defanor> j`ey: stat? ls?
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2035[15:32:49] <j`ey> ls works, and shows both the /dev/sda1 and
/mnt/x exist
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2037[15:33:07] <naptastic> AlexPortable, ok, try `apt install
linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64`
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2038[15:33:20] <fireba11> naptastic: not that good an idea
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2039[15:33:25] <AlexPortable> thanks that worked
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2041[15:33:30] <naptastic> O_O
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2042[15:33:31] <dvs> too late
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2043[15:33:43] <telecity> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/x -> "no
such file or directory"?
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2045[15:33:47] <telecity> j`ey:
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2046[15:33:54] <AlexPortable> telecity: does x exists?
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2048[15:34:03] <j`ey> telecity: yes
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2053[15:34:26] <fireba11> AlexPortable: naptastic: you want some
soet of meta package usually like linux-image-amd64
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2054[15:34:30] <j`ey> "mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/x failed:
no such file or directory"
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2055[15:34:51] <telecity> j`ey: can you cd to /mnt/x?
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2056[15:35:05] <\renaud> is there still a nspluginwrapper package
somewhere? Or is there any other way to run 32bit java app in 64bit
OS?
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2058[15:35:18] <j`ey> telecity: yup
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2059[15:35:29] <FinalX> fireba11: that progress bar is creeping
me out
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2060[15:35:40] <FinalX> just gave it a go :)
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2061[15:35:42] <fireba11> FinalX: :-D
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2062[15:35:48] <telecity> j`ey: cat < /dev/sda1 > /tmp/a0 =
and this works?
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2065[15:36:53] <j`ey> that did work (except it failed with run
out of space on device error)
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2066[15:37:05] <fireba11> FinalX: there are some other new things
like apt update reports back if there are things you could upgrade
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2067[15:37:10] <telecity> j`ey: yea should've used
/dev/null.. my bad
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2072[15:37:36] <FinalX> fireba11: yeah, I noticed, pretty sweet.
then again, it's only for my own server.. most servers are
managed through puppet with unattended upgrades and all, too :)
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2073[15:37:52] <telecity> j`ey: i think you should message
"jelly", i'm useless further
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2074[15:37:54] <j`ey> telecity: going to reboot, think that
messed stuff up
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2078[15:39:08] <fireba11> FinalX: depends. i got 7 debian servers
but all with very different tasks. i upgrade manually because some
upgrades might require a restart of a 3rd party application of a
maintenance window. puppet is for several servers with similar or
identical tasks
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2087[15:40:32] <FinalX> sure, we have that too, but most things
can be upgraded without any issue
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2088[15:40:46] <FinalX> database software i won't, obviously
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2089[15:41:02] <FinalX> openssh/openssl etc however can and
should be upgraded asap
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2092[15:41:41] <defanor> j`ey: is that device listed in fstab?
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2093[15:42:01] <j`ey> I would guess not, since it's in the
installer
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2094[15:42:05] <AlexPortable> fireba11: can't i install that
after reboot?
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2095[15:42:08] <AlexPortable> or best to just reinstall now
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2100[15:44:26] <dvs> AlexPortable, reinstall? You can install
linux-image-amd64 and it won't interfere with anything
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2103[15:44:33] <AlexPortable> well i have now the special package
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2104[15:44:34] <fireba11> AlexPortable: it's not THAT
important ... it just will prevent your kernel from getting
dist-upgraded with the newxt new release automatically if you
amnually install a specific kernel
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2105[15:44:35] <AlexPortable> should i remove it again?
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2120[15:47:35] <darxmurf> okay, mysqldump + vim = yay
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2122[15:47:43] <telecity> darxmurf: vim?
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2124[15:47:57] <petn-randall> telecity: vim can do regex
replaces.
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2125[15:48:02] <FinalX> vim can do sed stuff fine, too :)
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2126[15:48:09] <telecity> petn-randall: yes, but I was under the
impression he'd go for sed
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2127[15:48:12] <FinalX> arguably easier than with sed tbh
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2128[15:48:16] <FinalX> heh, me too
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2163[16:04:56] <darxmurf> telecity:
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2166[16:05:33] <darxmurf> telecity: yep, simple:
s,'/\([^/]*\) \(20[0-9]\{2\}\)/,'/\2 \1/,g
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2176[16:11:41] <digidog> how can I remove packages whithout the
automatically remove of other packages and the new packages which
try to replace its functionality?
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2182[16:15:16] <digidog> when I try to remove firefox-ESR, ikt
gets weird and want to install many kde components o.@
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2183[16:16:11] <petn-randall> digidog: Which release are you
running?
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2184[16:16:26] <digidog> petn-randall: Debian 8 stretch
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2185[16:16:50] <petn-randall> digidog: Debian 8 is jessie,
testing is stretch.
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2186[16:17:00] <digidog> petn-randall: *facepalm*
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2187[16:17:05] <digidog> yeah you are right ...
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2188[16:17:22] <digidog> moment, let me check again, since its
another machine I amintain for sb
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2190[16:18:02] <digidog> petn-randall: its stretch ... O.M.G
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2191[16:18:20] <petn-randall> digidog: You could also paste the
output of 'apt-cache policy' to
replaced-url
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2193[16:18:44] <digidog> petn-randall: ok, I'll do it ...
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2194[16:19:20] <digidog> petn-randall: is ix.io ok too ? I
can'T open a browser on that machine atm
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2195[16:19:42] <digidog> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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2218[16:28:45] <[sr]> howdy
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2219[16:29:03] <[sr]> i have two debian machines that when i
update kernel to +4.x
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2221[16:29:13] <[sr]> it hangs on boot in services like bind
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2222[16:29:20] <[sr]> very wierd, anyone has a clue on that?
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2223[16:29:45] <[sr]> i have udev/kmod/init scripts, and almost
all packages on the system updated
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2224[16:29:56] <[sr]> very odd, never happened such thing to me
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2254[16:41:13] <petn-randall> [sr]: Which release are you running
on both of them?
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2256[16:41:37] <[sr]> petn-randall: sid
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2257[16:41:53] <petn-randall> [sr]: What CPUs do they have?
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2258[16:42:00] <[sr]> it's something only with this two
machines, all others work OK
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2260[16:42:13] <petn-randall> [sr]: i386 arch by any chance?
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2261[16:42:13] <[sr]> petn-randall: hyper-V VM's
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2262[16:42:30] <[sr]> petn-randall: amd arch
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2263[16:43:14] <petn-randall> [sr]: You can add remove
'quiet splash' from the kernel parameter line in grub,
maybe that will show you some more information.
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2267[16:44:03] <[sr]> petn-randall: im using lilo, no splash, i
see all messages
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2268[16:44:11] <petn-randall> [sr]: Also check
/var/log/daemon.log for any errors. And 'systemd-analyze
critical-chain' to check where exactly it hangs.
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2269[16:44:17] <[sr]> no splash or framebuffer or so
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2270[16:44:40] <petn-randall> [sr]: Since most things are started
in parallel, it may seem that it hangs because of A, but in reality
it's because of B.
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2271[16:45:12] <[sr]> can be a fact
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2282[16:49:03] <defanor> i consider using debian packages to
deploy/update programs at work, but those programs usually require
packages that are either not present or too old in debian
repositories, so they use language-dependent package managers. some
of those are compiled and linked statically with the libraries, and
others are interpreted. should i just hack things in the `rules`
file, is there a better way, or is it a bad idea to use deb packages
for that?
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2286[16:50:20] <LowValueTarget> I am having issues in a wheezy
install where titlebar and title fonts are showing as rectangle
boxes. Obviously it seems like a fonts issue or a locale issue, but
nothing I've done seems to fix it. Anyone have experience with
this issue?
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2290[16:51:48] <petn-randall> defanor: I try to use Debian
packages where I can, simply because I don't have to track
security updates in those packages. If you can't use them,
because they're too old or built with different flags than you
need, you have to weave them into the deployment part of your
system. There's really no general best practice for that, as
every language cooks their own stuff.
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2292[16:51:57] <defanor> LowValueTarget: try to set another font
in your window manager, and/or check its logs, maybe
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2294[16:52:09] <LowValueTarget> defanor: i've done that
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2295[16:52:12] <LowValueTarget> nothing of note in the logs
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2296[16:52:40] <LowValueTarget> Also, if it helps, this just
started happening on a 6-month old install
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2297[16:54:11] <petn-randall> LowValueTarget: Can you show us the
output of 'apt-cache policy' on
replaced-url
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2299[16:55:15] <digidog> petn-randall:
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2301[16:55:48] <defanor> petn-randall: i guess i'll try and
see how it'll work (and how cumbersome it'll be) then.
thanks
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2303[16:56:06] <LowValueTarget> petn-randall: Sure thing.
It's actually a Kali Linux install.
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2304[16:56:31] <petn-randall> LowValueTarget: In that case you
can ask again in the proper channel.
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2305[16:56:33] <petn-randall> !kali
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2306[16:56:33] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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2308[16:56:57] <petn-randall> LowValueTarget: AFAIR they now have
a rolling release, so it's bound to run into problems all the
time.
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2309[16:57:07] <LowValueTarget> makes sense
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2311[16:57:26] <LowValueTarget> I should probably run debian
proper and make my own tools repo ;)
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2314[16:58:00] <petn-randall> LowValueTarget: I never understand
why people install Kali as their base system. Every person needing
Kali and being of sound mind uses it in a VM.
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2318[16:58:17] <LowValueTarget> It's a secondary system
petn-randall. My second laptop
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2320[16:58:25] <shiki> can I install the libpurple telegram
plugin on Debian?
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2321[16:58:31] <LowValueTarget> I actually use it as intended, as
my job requires it
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2329[16:59:53] <LowValueTarget> I only use the machine in
engagements, and I prefer direct access to the hardware
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2330[17:00:00] <digidog> how to remove packages without being
forced to install alternative packages in terminal ?
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2336[17:01:43] <LowValueTarget> petn-randall: and I guess my
google fu failed me
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2337[17:01:44] <LowValueTarget>
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2338[17:01:48] <petn-randall> digidog: testing/sid are support in
#debian-next on irc.oftc.net, let's continue discussing it
there.
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2340[17:02:07] <shiki> digidog: --no-install-recommends or
apt-get download and dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/...
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2342[17:02:19] <petn-randall> LowValueTarget: As I said,
it's not a Debian issue, so please ask in #kali.
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2343[17:02:19] <digidog> petn-randall: sure. thank you. I am
already over there.
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2345[17:02:40] <LowValueTarget> petn-randall: not asking anymore
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2346[17:02:44] <LowValueTarget> but i can take a hint
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2347[17:02:51] <LowValueTarget> have a good one -- peace
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2358[17:06:37] <\renaud> is there a way to run a 32 bit java
plugin with a 64 bit debian?
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2360[17:08:32] <petn-randall> \renaud: You can install the 32 bit
libraries needed for that.
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2361[17:08:40] <petn-randall> !foreign arch
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2362[17:08:47] <\renaud> but then you still have a 64 bit browser
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2364[17:09:00] <petn-randall> \renaud: Probably not, depends on
the details.
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2365[17:09:11] <petn-randall> \renaud: Is there a reason you want
to install a 32 bit java?
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2366[17:09:12] <parcs> uh oh, apt wants to remove libc6
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2367[17:09:21] <\renaud> petn-randall: yes, I need to run webex
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2368[17:09:26] <FinalX> who would have a need for that!
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2369[17:09:28] <nkuttler> !tell parcs about bat
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2370[17:09:30] <\renaud> and webex doesn't support 64 bit
java
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2371[17:10:02] <nkuttler> can't you just install a 32bit
browser as well?
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2372[17:10:21] <\renaud> then how do I choose to launch the 32
bit browser for webex and not for the rest?
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2374[17:10:51] <nkuttler> not sure you can install both at the
same time, but if you can just use the full path..
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2376[17:11:03] <\renaud> won't they have both the same name?
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2377[17:11:10] <nkuttler> probably
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2378[17:11:14] <\renaud> if I do apt-get install iceweasel:i386
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2379[17:11:29] <\renaud> it will conflict with iceweasel:amd64
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2381[17:11:55] <nkuttler> yeah, so pick one. or use a vm, or a
different browser, or avoid such software..
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2383[17:12:15] <\renaud> I cannot avoid that software, and I am
running in a VM atm, but I expected a cleaner solution
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2384[17:12:25] <FinalX> or bootstrap i386 debian into a dir and
run it chrooted :P
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2385[17:13:06] <\renaud> at some point, there was nspluginwrapper
which allowed to run 32bit java in 64 bit proxy, but the package
deosn't exist anymore
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2387[17:13:17] <nkuttler> fwiw, my first search result for that
has a guide for ubuntu that only installs a few 32bit libs
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2390[17:13:55] <\renaud> s/proxy/browser/
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2398[17:15:03] <\renaud> I tried to install the 32bit libs in
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ and then start it, but that fails
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2399[17:15:37] <\renaud> (and yes, I did ldconfig)
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2400[17:16:27] <FinalX> what about libc6-i386 ?
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2401[17:16:35] <FinalX> or was that the one you tried?
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2403[17:16:59] <\renaud> I did that, and also installed all the
java libss listed in the ldd of webex
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2404[17:17:03] <FinalX> ah
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2408[17:17:21] <\renaud> and compiling the old nspluginwrapper
fails on me too
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2409[17:17:23] <petn-randall> \renaud: It's probably easier
and less error prone to just maintain a 32-bit chroot with the
necessary packages.
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2410[17:17:23] <\renaud>
//usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgthread-2.0.so.0: error adding
symbols: DSO missing from command line
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2411[17:17:41] <\renaud> yes, I think it's the only way to
go
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2413[17:17:59] <petn-randall> \renaud: You just need the 32 bit
browser installed, it can run under your (non-chrooted) X11.
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2415[17:18:31] <\renaud> wasn't there a package to populate
a chroot?
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2420[17:21:00] <\renaud> debootstrap
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2438[17:28:56] <PrimalHunter> Hi, a short question as I'm
not entirely sure how it's handled. If you login via SSH using
only a key file does that mean the user you're logging in with
doesn't have a password?
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2440[17:29:14] <FinalX> no, they are seperate
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2441[17:29:31] <FinalX> a user can have a password, and have an
authorized ssh key, or both, or neither
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2442[17:30:08] <FinalX> password authentication can be disabled
in the ssh daemon, so only authorized ssh key auth is allowed, or
vice versa, or to allow both
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2447[17:33:30] <telecity> don't forget to disable
ChallengeResponse, too
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2448[17:33:36] <telecity> if you're going for the password
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2452[17:34:57] <PrimalHunter> Ok. So that part should be ok. The
real issue I'm working on is understanding the mail-server
configuration. As much as it shames me it seems like someone is
trying to send spam using my mail server and i can't really
tell why (yet).
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2455[17:35:54] <telecity> PrimalHunter: misconfiguration sounds
like a likely scenario
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2457[17:36:13] <telecity> PrimalHunter: which MTA?
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2458[17:37:28] <PrimalHunter> Probably, yes. it's postfix
and I am seeing some Probably. "Relay access denied;"
messages. I've pretty much tracked it down to a line which
looks like a valid login. The quesiton is if for some reason the
password isn't checked for the SMTP access or if the password
for that account was leaked somehow. Both cases are pretty ... bad.
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2460[17:38:05] <petn-randall> telecity: Either your MTA is set up
as an open relay (naughty!), or some user space program is sending
them (you may have some broken web application running on it?), or
you've got a trojan.
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2461[17:38:18] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Either your MTA is
set up as an open relay (naughty!), or some user space program is
sending them (you may have some broken web application running on
it?), or you've got a trojan.
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2462[17:38:24] <petn-randall> telecity: sorry, wrong autocomplete
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2463[17:38:30] <telecity> petn-randall: np
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2467[17:39:28] <PrimalHunter> Meh... all pretty bad. I guess
it's PW changeing time ... for all accounts on that server.
Thanks for hints and helping clearing it up so quickly. :)
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2468[17:39:28] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Check
/var/log/mail.log where the actual spam comes from. You can also
paste those lines + some context to
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2472[17:39:53] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Do you know it's
from any user on that system?
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2473[17:40:03] <telecity> PrimalHunter: you asked a question
about passwords at first.. using PAM for your MTA?
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2475[17:40:25] <abrotman> PrimalHunter: you can have postfix use
a different mechanism
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2479[17:43:18] <PrimalHunter> Those are the parts in mail.log
that I found that show when the spam starts
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2483[17:48:48] <PrimalHunter> And this would be my current
postfix config.
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2485[17:49:16] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Looks like your SASL
setup is somehow broken. Is seth@sturdy-byte.net a valid user on
that system?
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2486[17:49:28] <PrimalHunter> yes, it would be
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2487[17:49:56] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Looks like that
user's password was somehow retrieved. Should this user be
allowed to send mail?
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2491[17:51:24] <PrimalHunter> yes, I guess one of the other
services had to be compromised than. At least I never changed the
password after generting the user. That is concerning. *sigh* A lot
of work is waiting. \o/
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2495[17:53:53] <PrimalHunter> Thanks for all the help and see you
all later. Havea nice day!
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2509[17:59:35] <petn-randall> PrimalHunter: Maybe it got
brute-forced?
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2561[18:17:31] <antzero> How can I set custom DPI for different
applications (and not system-wide) ?
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2572[18:22:10] <FinalX> ugh, that moment where you're in mc
moving files over and you accidentally cancel it when a 20 GB file
is nearly done copying over.
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2581[18:24:54] <han-solo> mc?
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2582[18:25:28] <FinalX> Midnight Commander :)
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2615[18:36:51] <cruncher> FinalX, what is with that moment? i
hope you know you can resume file copying
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2617[18:37:07] <cruncher> of course only if oyu pressed
"keep" the partially copied file
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2618[18:37:17] <cruncher> ;-)
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2622[18:38:08] <Dean-b> Upgrading to unstable. Shitting it. Any
nightmares I shoud be prepared for?
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2623[18:38:32] <markybob> Dean-b: we don't support unstable.
read /topic
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2624[18:38:37] <cruncher> Dean-b, if its a fresh install there
shouldnt be any problems
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2625[18:38:38] <zykotick9> Dean-b: s/Upgrading/Downgrading/ and
i'd agree...
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2627[18:38:58] <cruncher> just a little info, but as markybob
says, not supported here
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2628[18:39:13] <markybob> !debian-next
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2629[18:39:13] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2630[18:39:23] <Dean-b> Not asking for support. I'm pretty
used to debian and linux in general. Just wondering if i've
opened a can of worms :P .
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2631[18:39:56] <markybob> Dean-b: that's support. we
don't know what's going on with sid because we don't
use it. so you go to the proper channel and ask them
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2636[18:41:18] <Dean-b> Awh balls not unstable. I'm
upgrading to testing. Stretch not sid.
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2638[18:41:30] <Dean-b> Not need to be so uppity in any case.
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2639[18:41:53] <markybob> Dean-b: did you not read? /topic or
what the bot said? stretch support is also not here
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2649[18:45:17] <Dean-b> nce again I do not require support.
Asking you if you have ever tied your shoes is not the same as
asking you to tie mine.
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2652[18:46:19] <markybob> Dean-b: i've used testing before
and it's been fine. i've used before and it's utterly
broken everything. i cant tell you it's current state. they
can.
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2657[18:47:29] <zinx> it's very likely that you should not
be running testing
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2659[18:47:45] <zinx> if you want bleeding edge, go with sid. if
you want something that won't break, go with stable
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2661[18:47:57] <markybob> s/likely/obvious
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2675[18:50:40] <teraflops> zinx: sid is not bleeding edge ...
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2679[18:50:53] <zinx> teraflops: it's as bleeding as debian
gets
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2680[18:51:02] <markybob> no it's not
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2681[18:51:16] <markybob> but please god teraflops don't
mention what is. we don't need that :/
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2682[18:51:17] <zinx> markybob: you're thinking of something
that's not debian.
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2683[18:51:20] <eladhen_> It makes you bleed
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2684[18:51:41] <teraflops> markybob: it's ok, just pointing
a fact
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2685[18:51:59] <zinx> anyway, the other one is reserved for
things that are known to be broken :P
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2686[18:52:22] <zinx> (maybe for a different arch, but w/e)
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2690[18:53:54] * cruncher would have liked to hear what would be...
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2691[18:54:23] <Nitori> hm, something messed up my keyboard
layout... "arrow up" is suddenly "print"...
trying to go up in history makes my DE want to take a screenshot
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2693[18:54:56] <Nitori> wondering if someone had a similar issue
with debian testing
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2695[18:55:13] <markybob> how many times in five minutes
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2696[18:55:26] <markybob> testing suppport is on #debian-next on
irc.oftc.net
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2701[18:56:53] <Nitori> thanks
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2717[19:02:14] <FinalX> cruncher: yeah, if you can hit the Keep,
sure, but I had latency issues on the train and hit enter twice in
the wrong window, default is on Delete.. :P
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2719[19:02:41] <FinalX> screen window, that is
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2735[19:08:18] <radw> hello, I continue having issues mouting a
nfs share from debian to a freenfs server
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2739[19:09:02] <radw> as you can see, the server give me rcpinfo,
but the authentication failed (even there isnt any in the server):
replaced-url
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2740[19:10:00] <FinalX> says access denied by server, are you
sure the client's ip that it's connecting from is allowed?
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2741[19:10:06] <mutante> "access denied" sounds like
there is
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2743[19:10:28] <FinalX> access denied does not necessarily come
down to a user/pass problem
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2744[19:10:40] <mutante> /etc/hosts.allow ?
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2745[19:11:06] <FinalX> you say "there isn't any on the
server", but by default the nfs server does demand you specify
the allowed ranges in /etc/exports
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2747[19:12:11] <radw> in this case, freenfs is v3 and does not
require a user/password
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2749[19:12:27] <FinalX> please read what I wrote
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2750[19:12:34] <FinalX> that's exactly what I just said
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2751[19:12:41] <riskc> I've got some trouble since I once
filled my root partition to the brim... :-(
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2752[19:12:44] <radw> i can allow in /etc/hosts.allow, hoever I
tried it also but didint work
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2754[19:13:08] <FinalX> riskc: ouch :( freeing some space should
usually get things going again pretty decently, though
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2756[19:13:19] <FinalX> radw: read what i wrote, i even said
where.
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2759[19:13:58] <riskc> FinalX: no, got gigs free now but still
got trouble. For example, I don't get sound for selected videos
that worked before. Strange problem?
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2760[19:14:19] <FinalX> for example, mkdir nfs; echo '/nfs
192.168.153.226(rw,sync,fsid=0,crossmnt,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)'
>> /etc/exports
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2761[19:14:28] <FinalX> and right there, there's the IP
that's allowed to connect
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2763[19:14:36] <FinalX> nothing to do with hosts.allow or
usernames/passwords
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2765[19:15:07] <FinalX> riskc: ugh, wouldn't know really; I
mostly use it for servers.. tried restarting all services (or
reboot, which does essentially the same)?
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2769[19:16:48] <radw> FinalX: i just loaded rpcbind : NFS server
IP to /etc/hosts.allow and give me the same error
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2770[19:17:24] <f-a> (alsa) I would like to capture what comes
out of my soundcard to, say, record it to a test.ogg file. I played
around with alsamixer and audacity with little luck. Any hint?
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2771[19:17:26] <FinalX> ..........
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2773[19:18:07] <FinalX> the problem is _NOT_ on the Debian client
machine, but on the FreeNFS-server not allowing the IP in the
NFS-server itself through /etc/exports, _not_ in hosts.allow, like I
just mentioned 2 times
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2782[19:22:56] <radw> FinalX: but why in debian as nfs client not
work, but for others nfs clients work (like vmware esxi)?
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2828[19:35:13] <thiolliere> my cpu temperature goes from 40 to
~80 fan almost not work. then fan works fullpower and temperature
decrease to 40. I want better control to my fan to activate them a
little so it is never noisy. but pwmconfig tell me that there is
pwm-capable sensors module installed. can I control my fans and how
?
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2833[19:35:59] <thiolliere> *there is no pwm-capable modules
instaled*
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2838[19:37:39] <Akram> Hi guys
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2841[19:38:13] <Akram> I am helping a friend whose server has
been hacked: he had a very old version of Debian: 6.0
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2842[19:38:34] <Akram> I made 2 upgrades
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2843[19:38:45] <Akram> and now, I can't but: I am stuck on
grub page
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2844[19:38:54] <Akram> s/but/boot
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2845[19:39:10] <markus_> maybe back up everything important and
reinstall? who knows what was done with the server since it was
hacked.
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2846[19:39:27] <markus_> may be persistent call back shells left
or back doors?
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2847[19:39:40] <Akram> markus_: good advice, I want to restore
the service for now, and take more time to do the reinstall
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2848[19:40:01] <Akram> I need help on getting grub2 work back
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2849[19:40:12] <Akram> I think that the partitions where ext2
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2850[19:40:25] <Akram> s/where/were
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2851[19:40:28] <markus_> sorry i am not very good at that but
maybe you can just boot off usb and from there backup all files?
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2853[19:40:35] <markus_> a live usb?
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2855[19:40:43] <Akram> markus_: the server is in the cloud
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2856[19:41:01] <Akram> markus_: I was abled to boot Rescue
System, and chroot, and update grub
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2857[19:41:18] <Akram> but with no success, boot returns to the
grub shell
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2858[19:41:26] <Akram> and if I type: boot
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2860[19:41:35] <antzero> Is there a decent way to use Google
Drive on Debian or should I switch to dropbox?
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2861[19:41:37] <markus_> what cloud provider?
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2862[19:41:42] <Akram> I got: error: no loaded kernel
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2864[19:42:00] <Akram> markus_: it is a Physical server, hosted
in France
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2865[19:42:33] <markus_> Akram: sorry i think maybe i am not the
right person. maybe somebody else here can help if i am quiet
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2866[19:42:43] <Akram> :D
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2867[19:42:46] <markus_> :P
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2870[19:43:00] <Akram> let's wait for a while :D
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2872[19:43:11] <Akram> Keep Calm And Relax :D
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2873[19:43:12] <telecity> Akram: ovh?
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2874[19:43:29] <Akram> telecity: yes, but that does not make any
difference :D
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2875[19:43:48] <telecity> Akram: you mentioned it being a
physical server, yet said it was in the cloud
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2876[19:43:51] <telecity> Akram: is it a vps?
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2879[19:44:17] <teraflops> it's a dedicated server
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2882[19:44:37] <Akram> telecity: dedicated :D but, really, it is
not the issue :D
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2883[19:44:53] <telecity> Akram: what do you want to do, restore
the boot loader?
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2884[19:45:16] <Akram> telecity: I tried already to restore it:
chroot , grub-update
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2886[19:45:32] <Akram> telecity: but it seems to not solve the
issue: still not booting
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2887[19:45:54] <Akram> telecity: I followed these steps which
seem ok to me:
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2888[19:46:12] <telecity> Akram: if I were you i'd probably
boot into rescue mode and then pigz up the important data and sftp..
or i'd make an image of the whole device instead
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2890[19:46:32] <telecity> Akram: and then losetup it on the
localhost to extract the data
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2891[19:46:45] <telecity> Akram: was this a partitioned system -
/boot was dedicated?
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2895[19:47:01] <Akram> telecity: it is partitioned indeed
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2897[19:47:19] <telecity> Akram: KVM?
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2899[19:47:23] <teraflops> ^
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2900[19:47:30] <Akram> telecity: it was debian 6, I upgraded to
7, and everything was ok
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2901[19:47:50] <Akram> and then upgraded to 8, and now, grub just
give me the grub shell
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2902[19:48:00] <telecity> Akram: how are you identifying that
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2903[19:48:03] <telecity> Akram: via KVM?
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2904[19:48:09] <petn-randall> Akram: If it's a cloud
instance, just get a fresh image and move the data over. No point in
putting work into a system that's not trustworthy anymore.
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2905[19:48:16] <Akram> telecity: no, dedicated, physical, it is a
dell, I have IDRAC (console)
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2906[19:48:33] <telecity> Akram: ok, so you got kvm.. guess
it's not the kimsufi line :D
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2908[19:49:10] <telecity> Akram: i'd grub-install over
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2909[19:49:21] <Akram> telecity: how do you do this ?
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2910[19:50:01] <telecity> Akram: run grub-install
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2911[19:50:05] <jelly> Akram: same as update-grub, except run
grub-install /dev/sda or wherever
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2912[19:50:26] <Akram> jelly: telecity: I will give it a try
right now
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2913[19:50:38] <telecity> inb4 fubar
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2916[19:51:22] <telecity> the good thing is you got KVM
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2919[19:51:47] <Akram> telecity: jelly: what should e the install
device ? the one containing /boot or the one containing / ?
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2920[19:52:00] <telecity> rootfs and /boot on a diff device?
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2921[19:52:08] <Akram> telecity: yes
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2925[19:52:25] <telecity> GPT?
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2926[19:52:31] <Akram> root is : / => /dev/sda2
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2927[19:52:40] <Akram> boot is : /boot => /dev/sda1
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2928[19:52:52] <telecity> that's the same device
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2929[19:53:06] <Akram> telecity: oh sorry
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2930[19:53:22] <telecity> what about the partition table - is it
GPT or DOS (MBR)
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2931[19:53:25] <Akram> oh by the way, I restarted in rescue and
watched the fs
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2933[19:53:37] <telecity> you did what
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2934[19:53:40] <Akram> here it is /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext4
(rw,relatime,data=ordered)
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2935[19:54:13] <telecity> parted /dev/sda
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2936[19:54:14] <telecity> u s
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2937[19:54:14] <telecity> p
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2938[19:54:30] <Akram> and when I was doint root (hd0.1) , grub
was telling it was ext2
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2939[19:54:38] <Akram> now it is ext4 apparently
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2940[19:54:42] <markybob> Akram: you should install grub to
/dev/sda not /sda1 or /dev/sda2
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2942[19:55:01] <markybob> Akram: boot is generally ext2
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2943[19:55:04] <telecity> there has to be a valid boot sector
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2944[19:55:21] <Akram> grub-install /dev/sda
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2945[19:55:21] <Akram> Installing for i386-pc platform.
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2946[19:55:21] <Akram> Installation finished. No error reported.
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2947[19:55:25] <petn-randall> Akram: Are you booting via UEFI or
via legacy BIOS?
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2948[19:55:53] <Akram> petn-randall: I think it is legacy, but
how can I deternmine it? dmesg ?
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2949[19:55:57] <markybob> hell petn-randall already gave you the
best advice.
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2950[19:55:58] <teraflops> petn-randall: well it seems to be MBR
or at least grub thinks so :P
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2953[19:56:44] <teraflops> Akram: you should know if _your_
server does EFI or MBR ...
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2954[19:57:14] <Akram> teraflops: just saying in introduction: I
am helping a friend, who has the server for a long time
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2956[19:57:46] <telecity> and #debian is helping you
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2958[19:57:54] <teraflops> s/you/your friend
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2959[19:57:59] <Akram> teraflops: someone ordered it, and set it
up 3 years ago, and now I have the baby
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2962[19:58:12] <telecity> Akram: v important information :D
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2963[19:58:29] <Akram> telecity: :)
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2965[19:58:56] <Akram> just like we say, the friends of my
friends are my friends :D
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2968[19:59:05] <telecity> i think you can determine this through
'dmidecode'
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2969[19:59:09] <telecity> whether EFI or BIOS
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2971[19:59:16] <teraflops> or just reboot :P
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2972[20:00:04] <Akram> dmidecode | grep -i efi , returns nothing
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2975[20:00:20] <Akram> IOS Information
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2976[20:00:20] <Akram> Vendor: Dell Inc.
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2977[20:00:20] <Akram> Version: 1.5.2
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2978[20:00:22] <Akram> Release Date: 10/18/2010
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2982[20:00:30] <Akram> looks like legacy enough :D
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2983[20:00:32] <markybob> Akram: run as sudo and don't paste
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2984[20:00:46] <teraflops> Akram: just make sure the grub config
has been updated
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2990[20:01:57] <Akram> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 9479 May 23 19:26
/boot/grub/grub.cfg
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2991[20:02:14] <Akram> looks like, the update-grub updated it,
but the install did not
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2993[20:02:22] <Akram> is it expected ?
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2994[20:02:34] <telecity> just reboot
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2995[20:02:49] <telecity> you got rescue mode and console,
you'd be ok
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2996[20:02:54] <Akram> telecity: ok, let's go for it
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2997[20:03:16] <Akram> telecity: nothing more ? since reboot
takes time, don't want to take it :D
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2998[20:03:22] <telecity> you even have ovh technicians..
although the support is non-existant
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3001[20:03:58] <telecity> Akram: yea just reboot
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3002[20:04:07] <daily> telecity: I know that all too well.
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3003[20:04:17] <daily> 2 weeks to get a problem resolved, that
was THEIR fault.
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3004[20:04:19] <telecity> most likely the config is fluffed up
anyway, but deal with that later
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3005[20:04:23] <telecity> daily: idd
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3006[20:04:26] <jelly> what good would a technician do that
remote console and reboot button does not do
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3007[20:04:30] <Akram> ok, gone for reboot
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3008[20:04:32] <markybob> why do you stay? my vps supplier has
great support
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3009[20:04:47] <telecity> markybob: ovh is cheap
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3010[20:05:01] <telecity> markybob: good network throughput,
latency
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3013[20:05:23] <telecity> markybob: and good hardware specs
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3016[20:05:40] <telecity> markybob: even API
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3018[20:05:43] <daily> They're coming out with US locations
soon too.
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3020[20:05:59] <teraflops> telecity: latency depends on the
endpoint. I bet you get shitty latency from India
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3021[20:05:59] <daily> If you're looking for a lowend
provider, check out #lowendbox. Community based around it.
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3022[20:06:02] <Akram> anyway thank you guys :) still don't
know if it will be working :)
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3023[20:06:18] <telecity> teraflops: ofcourse it does, i'm
talking about proper peering/transit with the major IXs
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3024[20:06:29] <Akram> telecity: so why the grub-install may have
not been done by the apt-get dist-upgrade ?
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3026[20:06:51] <Akram> youhou !!!!! thank you guys
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3027[20:06:55] <teraflops> :P
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3028[20:07:03] <telecity> it worked?
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3030[20:07:24] <Akram> telecity: yes it worked, thanks
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3031[20:07:41] <telecity> Akram: you're welcome.. thank god
we didn't have to look/debug your grub config
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3032[20:07:54] <telecity> Akram: and maybe grub overwrote the
sploit you had at sector 0
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3033[20:07:57] <Akram> telecity: :D indeed, thank God :D
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3034[20:08:21] <Akram> telecity: I was quite confident about
that, but I am still missing the grub-install
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3035[20:08:31] <Akram> telecity: I will look for an explaination
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3036[20:08:32] <telecity> Akram: how did the perp get access?
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3038[20:08:44] <telecity> Akram: which exploit
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3040[20:09:08] <Akram> oh, I don't know for sure now, but
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3041[20:09:43] <Akram> at the website root, there were an SQL
script, belonging to root and on 777
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3042[20:09:55] <Akram> and, what we had know
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3043[20:10:00] <markybob> well that's stupid as fuck
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3045[20:10:16] <Akram> sorry, what he got, it is a small book
store,
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3046[20:10:18] <markybob> do what petn-randall told you to do
right now
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3047[20:10:29] <Akram> he lost almost all orders since 2013
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3049[20:10:48] <telecity> Akram: what's the point of
bringing this server online atm?
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3050[20:10:52] <jelly> Akram: do those people not have backups?
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3051[20:10:57] <Akram> and the SQL script was containing data
drop an recreated the DB with data of 2013
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3052[20:11:14] <Akram> jelly: I found the backup fortunately
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3054[20:11:31] <Akram> and restored, and calmed him down
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3056[20:11:35] <telecity> Akram: it's obviously compromised,
apt-get install chkrootkit at least
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3058[20:11:58] <Akram> and then, I said, let's get for an
update at least, to take some time to breathe
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3059[20:12:08] <Akram> and in the middle :) I broke it
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3061[20:12:23] <markybob> absolutely pointless
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3062[20:12:27] <Akram> so, let's keep it working back a
little, and start another one
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3063[20:12:29] <jelly> as in "compromised" by
disgrunted ex-admin whose access was never revoked?
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3065[20:12:45] <telecity> just like shapeshift.io
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3066[20:12:48] <Akram> jelly: I got your point
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3067[20:13:15] <Akram> I will advise him
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3070[20:14:01] <Akram> thank you guys again
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3072[20:14:32] <Akram> have a nice day, I will go back to kids
for a while now
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3073[20:14:34] <Akram> see you
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3074[20:14:34] <telecity> you should run find with -atime,
-mtime, -ctime
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3075[20:14:47] <telecity> although you've already upgraded
the system, so duh
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3082[20:16:39] <telecity> say you're a hacker, you gain
access.. can you change ALL timestamps of some file on an ext4 to
make it pose as something that hasn't been touched/changed?
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3083[20:16:54] <martman> im having problems installing a powerpc
build system and im not sure what docs to use. looks emdebian is
dead and the other multilib stuff isnt going the greatest for me. i
cant find any powerpc packages after editing my sources file and
adding the arch ti dpkg
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3086[20:17:31] <markybob> telecity: of course
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3087[20:17:38] <telecity> markybob: with what set of utils
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3091[20:18:23] <markybob> telecity: this isn't #hacking but
google will give you top results really easily
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3093[20:18:51] <telecity> markybob: touch, i.e. only modifies 2
of the timestamps
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3098[20:19:38] <markybob> again, this isn't #hacking. go to
#debian-offtopic if you really want
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3101[20:20:38] <telecity> markybob: ok. but this is #debian. how
can i modify all the timestamps of a given file to match a certain
predefined date?
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3103[20:21:03] <telecity> :)
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3104[20:21:09] <markybob> telecity: when i already know that you
started with "if you hacked"...c'mon
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3108[20:21:33] <telecity> markybob: really makes no difference,
c'mon
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3111[20:21:52] <markybob> telecity: the difference is you're
goging on /ignore
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3113[20:22:04] <telecity> markybob: touche?
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3115[20:22:44] * martman is very confused by multilib
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3116[20:22:46] <zinx> telecity: just restore from your backup
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3117[20:22:56] <telecity> zinx: hmm?
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3118[20:23:07] <martman> has anyone gotten multilib stuff to work
without the dated/dead emdebian stuff?
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3130[20:26:28] <telecity> markybob: google tells me you
can't change the ctime
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3135[20:27:27] <telecity> As a possible workaround you can set
the system time to the ctime you want to impose, then touch the file
and then restore the system time.
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3136[20:27:32] <telecity> oh my.
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3140[20:28:12] <DammitJim> is there a way to use inotify with the
creation of files only and not directories?
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3150[20:31:33] <jelly> telecity: you can change anything with
debugfs.
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3151[20:31:52] <jelly> (ie. you can do anything as root)
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3156[20:32:19] <DammitJim> it's too much responsibility
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3181[20:43:20] <mulischaf> dff/filter add irc_smart *
irc_smart_filter *
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3182[20:43:25] <mulischaf> ups
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3193[20:49:25] <telecity> jelly: didn't know, thanks for the
tip
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3196[20:50:28] <telecity> jelly: so what if one of the servers I
won gets infiltrated, files tampered with and replaced, timestamps
reset.. what could I do?
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3197[20:50:33] <telecity> own*
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3243[21:10:41] <Exagone313> Hi, I can't install
netfilter/iptables-persistent, the installation fails, here is
journalctl -xn content:
replaced-url
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3257[21:13:47] <jmcnaught> Exagone313: looks like you're not
using a jessie kernel. the packages probably work without grsecurity
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3266[21:16:47] <Exagone313> yes, OVH uses a custom kernel, I
don't know why :s
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3267[21:17:24] <telecity> Exagone313: part of the suite that
involves isntalling spyware :p
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3270[21:17:50] <telecity> Exagone313: they install monitoring
daemon afair
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3271[21:17:57] <teraflops> Exagone313: out of curiosity,
wasn't OVH KVM?
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3273[21:18:09] <Exagone313> it's a dedicated server
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3274[21:18:20] <Exagone313> I don't know what you're
asking
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3275[21:18:30] <teraflops> well that's even worst :P
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3276[21:18:34] <telecity> im not sure you need a custom kernel
for monitoring daemons
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3283[21:19:40] <sbeex> hello guys
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3284[21:19:43] <WormFood> What package has the character map, or
whatever it's called, to let me select the
hard-to-remember-how-to-type semi-unusual unicode character that I
want?
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3288[21:20:19] <greycat> Depends on *how* unusual.
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3290[21:20:37] <WormFood> I said "semi-unusual" :P
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3291[21:20:40] <greycat> Some can be typed with Multi_key but
most can't.
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3293[21:20:56] <WormFood> I thought everything could be typed if
you know the code for it.
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3294[21:21:03] <sbeex> (I rent a server at ovh and they told me I
was doing some attack on a specific IP ... (I absolutely don't
but .. if they say it it is probably the case :D ) Is there a way to
find what service on my debian send to what ip something ? thank you
in advance for your advices)
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3295[21:21:04] <greycat> Your locale setting also affects what
you can do with Multi_key.
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3297[21:21:27] <WormFood> anyways, I'm trying to find the
graphical program, that has a list of "all" the unicode
characters.
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3299[21:21:34] <mutante> sees WormFood build his own
unicode-characters-semi
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3301[21:21:48] <greycat> WormFood: I believe that's called
"iceweasel". You go to a wikipedia page that has a list of
the chars.
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3305[21:22:14] <mutante>
replaced-url
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3306[21:22:14] <WormFood> greycat, I'm well aware of that.
That isn't what I'm looking for.
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3307[21:22:53] <WormFood> seriously guys. That is exactly what I
didn't ask for.
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3308[21:22:57] <telecity> sbeex: lsof, netstat, ps, iptables with
logging
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3309[21:22:59] <teraflops> WormFood: use a font inspector or
whatever it's called. as in gnome font viewer
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3310[21:23:04] <greycat> Well, clearly nobody here knows what you
are asking for.
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3312[21:23:18] <WormFood> no teraflops. There is an applet for
this.
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3313[21:23:22] <greycat> If you'd just say WHAT CHARACTER
and LOCALE you want, we might be able to tell you how to type it.
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3314[21:23:27] <WormFood> I just don't know what package
it's part of.
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3315[21:23:35] <teraflops> oh an applet ...
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3318[21:23:58] <WormFood> it's probably something named
*-apps
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3320[21:24:09] <sbeex> telecity: ps doesn't give any info
related to packets ...
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3322[21:24:37] <telecity> sbeex: it gives info related to running
processes
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3323[21:24:59] <sbeex> yes that I agree with but.. you mean I
have to "mix all of them" ?
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3324[21:25:03] <telecity> sbeex: and something from that list..
is sending.. pkts
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3325[21:25:04] <blackbit> is Evgeni Golov or Antonio Terceiro
here? or anybody else who works with lxc?
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3327[21:25:24] <teraflops> if you use vte terminal you can use
pangoview for doing the opposite as in identify what font family
renders a given glyph
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3336[21:26:39] <telecity> sbeex: no, just monitor active
connections, sort per process.. then either tcpdump or use iptables
logging
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3340[21:27:22] <telecity> sbeex: if it's sending out
"attacks", then it's an outgoing connection.. likely
TCP or UDP, but can be ICMP or whatever other protocol..
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3342[21:27:35] <WormFood> The package is "gucharmap",
to answer my own question.
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3344[21:27:50] <greycat> ,info gucharmap
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3345[21:27:51] <judd> Package gucharmap (gnome, optional) in
jessie/amd64: Unicode character picker and font browser. Version:
1:3.14.1-1; Size: 649.0k; Installed: 4009k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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3346[21:28:22] <telecity> sbeex: i'd first inspect for any
suspicious processes
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3347[21:28:40] <telecity> sbeex: then try to identify from active
connections
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3349[21:28:50] <telecity> sbeex: then resort to packet logging /
dumping
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3350[21:28:52] <sbeex> telecity: right yes I use docker so on the
main it should be nothing special is there any "list of normal
process" ?
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3352[21:29:01] <telecity> docker
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3353[21:29:05] <telecity> omg
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3356[21:29:28] <telecity> sbeex: can you just make a new
container then
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3358[21:29:35] <telecity> sbeex: and disregard the old one
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3359[21:29:37] <WormFood> ΩΩΩ :D
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3362[21:29:59] <telecity> WormFood: looks like an omega in my
irssi
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3363[21:29:59] <sbeex> telecity: the attack come from the docker
host machine
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3364[21:30:10] <telecity> sbeex: oh ok
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3365[21:30:20] <telecity> sbeex: lots of containers, different
users?
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3366[21:30:28] <telecity> sbeex: you're hosting docker, not
using it yourself?
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3367[21:30:40] <sbeex> I host it and use it
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3368[21:30:52] <telecity> and anyone else?
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3369[21:30:54] <sbeex> 20 containers
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3370[21:30:56] <sbeex> noone
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3372[21:31:14] <telecity> just tell ovh
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3373[21:31:16] <telecity> you fixed it
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3374[21:31:25] <sbeex> but I have to say I didnt really secured
my server for now...
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3376[21:31:35] <sbeex> so I will do it now xD
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3377[21:31:43] <sbeex> yes for now I did this
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3378[21:31:47] <sbeex> so they reenable my ip
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3379[21:31:49] <telecity> why do u need docker?
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3381[21:32:00] <sbeex> but I have to find the mistake otherwise
it will come again xD
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3384[21:32:11] <telecity> next time you might get perm disabled
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3386[21:32:14] <sbeex> because it's suit my needs
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3388[21:32:22] <telecity> what do you do with it?
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3390[21:32:48] <sbeex> ldap, jira, confluence, jenkins, 5
websites, and some other stuff
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3391[21:32:51] <sbeex> multiple db
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3392[21:32:58] <telecity> i see
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3394[21:33:07] <telecity> could've deployed all that on the
same server though
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3395[21:33:23] <sbeex> yes but well I create docker image for my
website now ^^
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3396[21:33:30] <sbeex> so I wont change to go back
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3397[21:33:30] <telecity> good luck
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3398[21:33:31] <sbeex> :D
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3399[21:33:36] <sbeex> I already do it
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3400[21:33:54] <sbeex> well I have to deal with my server for now
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3402[21:34:07] <telecity> i found docker to be very confusing
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3403[21:34:08] <sbeex> I will try to do some netstats as you said
thx
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