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5[00:03:48] <awal1> david3, under stable branch upgrade or
dist-upgrade does quasi same thing since no new pkgs/newer versions
are introduced. testingUnstable are another story
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6[00:04:44] <annadane> well, at least for point releases
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8[00:04:56] <annadane> 8 > 9 > 10 etc is a bit of a
different story
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12[00:05:15] <awal1> ya
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17[00:06:14] <awal1> obvious :P
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23[00:07:24] <mrjayribs> dcaxq: sorry i'm so busy
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26[00:08:21] <mrjayribs> dcaxq: I wonder if that info was too
person
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27[00:08:25] <mrjayribs> personal*
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28[00:08:30] <annadane> yeah i mean it's like i was saying
linux programs really ought to run pdf's
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29[00:08:33] <annadane> including firefox
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31[00:08:40] <annadane> that message you got makes zero sense
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32[00:08:46] <annadane> unless they have a really shady deal
with adobe
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33[00:08:52] <dcaxq> mrjayribs: as you see the pdf created with
Adobe LiveCycle and I am not aware of a pdf software that can open
that file.
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36[00:09:17] <mrjayribs> that was a fancy set of commands my
friend. bravo for your help!
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37[00:09:17] <dcaxq> mrjayribs: Your best is to open it on
Adobe Acrobat on a windows compuer.
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44[00:10:49] <dcaxq> computer*
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45[00:11:24] <mrjayribs> dcaxq: thank you. Honestly that nc
command does it for me.
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46[00:11:49] <dcaxq> no problem
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47[00:12:05] <dcaxq> happy to help
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49[00:12:50] <mrjayribs> dcaxq: yeah but really wtf whats up
with that nc command
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50[00:13:31] <mrjayribs> to the man pages!
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53[00:14:03] <dcaxq> yep
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56[00:14:24] <dcaxq> in briefly, it's just pipe and send
the data to that host+port
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64[00:16:56] <mrjayribs> I see. Yeah I'm researching it.
It's a very simple tool.
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65[00:16:58] <annadane> i did not know about livecycle...
that's really odd
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67[00:18:15] <awal1> btw, pdftk + pdfchain are good
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69[00:19:09] <mrjayribs> awal1: good for what?
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72[00:20:08] <awal1> for restricted pdf stuff
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73[00:20:58] <mrjayribs> i'll give it a shot
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76[00:22:05] <tiwake> how do I use LUKS to decrypt some drives
before initramfs tries to mount my ZFS pool?
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77[00:22:24] <dcaxq> !luks
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78[00:22:25] <dpkg> Linux Unified Key Setup (LUKS) is a disk
encryption specification with a platform-independent format.
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80[00:22:51] <Maido-Chan> is there any way in kate tocompare
two files side by side?
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81[00:23:16] <tiwake> dcaxq: I already have it set up, I just
need to decrypt the drives that my ZFS pool is attached to before
ZFS tries to mount it
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82[00:23:33] <durg> maido-chan: thats a typical diff exercise
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84[00:23:50] <durg> emacs can also do it, don't know about
kate
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86[00:24:05] <mrjayribs> awal1: i'd love to talk about
that later; but I have to go now. Thank you for the suggestions
yall!
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88[00:24:14] <phogg> Maido-Chan: use kdiff3 for that
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89[00:24:26] <Maido-Chan> kdiff3?
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90[00:24:42] <phogg> Maido-Chan: a KDE diff program; also the
best GUI diff tool I've used
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91[00:25:26] <Maido-Chan> k thanx
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92[00:25:28] <Maido-Chan> installing now
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95[00:26:08] <Maido-Chan> something odd. i prefer gui for
almost everything and yet i don't think i've opened
whatever graphical package manager debian/xfce4 may have come with.
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101[00:28:58] <annadane> Maido-Chan, split view?
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102[00:29:05] <annadane> "view - split view"
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104[00:29:10] <Coolternet> hello guys
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106[00:29:21] <Maido-Chan> doesn't have comparative
highlighting or synchronized scrolling. :p
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110[00:31:07] <Coolternet> anyone can tell me if all is ok ?
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124[00:38:34] <dcaxq> Coolternet: why do you ask here?
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125[00:38:53] <dcaxq> what is the issue?
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127[00:39:12] <Coolternet> i dont have any acces to web server
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279[02:02:16] <Crawl123> hi guys
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280[02:02:28] <bazhang> hi
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281[02:02:28] <Crawl123> I can't run ifconfig
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283[02:02:36] <Crawl123> Just installed debian
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285[02:02:40] <bazhang> what about ip route
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287[02:02:48] <Crawl123> ?
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288[02:02:56] <bazhang> use ip
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289[02:03:01] <bazhang> not ifconfig
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290[02:03:21] <Crawl123> any params?
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291[02:03:27] <bazhang> sure
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292[02:03:27] <Crawl123> I mean, I need basic info
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293[02:03:38] <n4dir> probably: ip a
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294[02:03:42] <bazhang> ever heard of reading a man
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307[02:08:33] <mnuhmnuh> /sbin/ifconfig
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314[02:09:20] <mnuhmnuh> works. /sbin's not in PATH. silly.
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315[02:09:32] <mnuhmnuh> not your fault.
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329[02:15:48] <Crawl123> how to nslookup in debian?
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332[02:17:18] <Crawl123> also I can't run synaptic gui
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336[02:19:08] <coruja> try to use 'apt search
<whatever>' yourself and 'i can't run xy'
is no error message one can do any support with
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337[02:19:28] <coruja> !ask
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338[02:19:29] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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340[02:20:07] <xilok> whois ? maybe
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342[02:20:18] <Crawl123> heh, I can't configure network, I
need tools that can be installed over network, hah
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343[02:20:48] <mnuhmnuh> libnet-nslookup-perl?
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345[02:21:02] <coruja> then you should maybe ask for help with
network config (see above how)
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346[02:21:07] <mnuhmnuh> :-)
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348[02:22:35] <xilok> !ip
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349[02:22:35] <dpkg> IP (Internet Protocol) is a connectionless,
best-effort packet switching protocol. It provides packet routing,
fragmentation and re-assembly through the data link layer. To check
yours, go to
replaced-url
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350[02:22:40] <coruja> and if network is a problem during
installation, maybe use a dvd iso for install with much more
packages 'on board' even offline
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353[02:23:29] <Crawl123> yea, I made usb-installer
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354[02:23:47] <Crawl123> but apt doesn't see it like source
of applications
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355[02:24:23] <coruja> it should be added automatically to
sources.list during install, maybe just commented out
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356[02:24:49] <coruja> /etc/apt/sources.list i mean
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357[02:26:12] <xilok> that is a repo list
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358[02:26:30] <xilok> apt-get update
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359[02:26:41] <xilok> what does it do?
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362[02:28:15] <bitlan> hi
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363[02:28:51] <bitlan> where i can find IMQ patch for debian 9
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372[02:33:19] <Crawl123> It hopes that I will install it with
cdrom
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373[02:33:23] <Crawl123> so it adds it
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374[02:33:25] <Crawl123> not flash
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375[02:33:39] <Crawl123> now fckn nano is zombie and I
can't kill it
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376[02:33:51] <Crawl123> 'cause I use ctrl+C for copy, haha
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377[02:33:57] <Crawl123> mthfckr
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385[02:35:03] <Crawl123> instead of lunch I configuring old
stugg
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386[02:35:07] <Crawl123> stuff*
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399[02:43:00] <Crawl123> how to add new source to it?
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400[02:43:18] <Crawl123> It doesn't get
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423[02:59:06] <masterkorp> Guys how can I install AMD propritary
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424[02:59:37] <RoyK> graphics card stuff_
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425[02:59:38] <RoyK> ?
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427[03:01:13] <ealfonso> just installed npm through apt-get and
I'm getting an error: "Error: Cannot find module
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428[03:01:13] <ealfonso>
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429[03:01:33] <somiaj> masterkorp: What graphics card? I think
fglrx is discontinued and amdgpupro only supports newer cards.
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430[03:01:53] <somiaj> ealfonso: do you have installing
recommended packages turned off?
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431[03:01:59] <RoyK> ealfonso: works for me™
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434[03:03:09] <somiaj> ealfonso: What version of debian are you
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435[03:04:19] <RoyK> s/What/Which/ # :þ
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436[03:04:41] <somiaj> Possibly, I'm not the best at
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437[03:05:30] <RoyK> shouldn't be that hard
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438[03:06:19] <ealfonso> probably some issue with some
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442[03:08:10] * RoyK slightly wonders how many punched cards
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444[03:10:16] <ealfonso> I'm on 8.9
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tsx-whatevever.yaknow, over 32kbps modem ...
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470[03:25:39] <RoyK> mnuhmnuh: ell, my first linux intallation
was from a cdrom, 2x, really fast :D slackware 2.1 kernel 1.1.59 -
stability wasn't an issue back then - we didn't have it
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506[03:43:47] <blackholess> ?OTRv23?
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529[04:00:26] <turyl> .
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534[04:00:57] <jbaruchdu> ?OTRv23?
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535[04:00:57] <ioniwz> ?OTRv23?
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536[04:00:57] <krishmk> ?OTRv23?
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537[04:00:57] <spadizs> ?OTRv23?
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559[04:10:21] <GenTooMan> I'm looking at acquiring a new
computer and wondered if Debian would install like normal on it. The
GL753VE ROG computer from ASUS. I plan on obliterating windows 10
however they seem to have stuffed an SSD drive in it. So now
I'm curious how to deal with an SSD. I've installed debian
a few times (5 times) so I'm not a neophyte just a bit of
concern over the hardware and the UEFI blocking replacement of
win10.
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587[04:27:44] <dvs> GenTooMan, I think you have to turn off
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606[04:46:01] <goiken2> I just ran dist-upgrade after setting my
sources.list from stretch to testing. Now I only boot into a
blinking cursor…
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608[04:46:41] <iflema> and
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609[04:46:50] <iflema> what are you testing?
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611[04:48:36] <annadane> goiken, you should probably ask on
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615[04:51:23] <goiken> any chance I can even get a shell? google
suggests that this may be nvidia-related?
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620[04:55:10] <iflema> P.E.B.C.A.K. You missed the google about
using testing
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621[04:56:00] <annadane> if you can't even get a shell or
virtual terminal it probably means it's more than just
accidentally removing a critical package
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622[04:56:04] <annadane> but take it to #debian-next
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626[04:57:44] <goiken> annadane y… get this screen before
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627[04:57:53] <FunkyBob> is anyone else getting a 503 for
replaced-url
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629[04:58:12] <annadane> FunkyBob, not a 503 but yes,
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630[04:58:28] <annadane> for me it says "please try again
later" so perhaps routine maintenance
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632[04:58:38] <FunkyBob> been trying for hours
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633[04:58:51] <annadane> FunkyBob, perhaps ask on #debian-replaced-url
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634[04:58:58] <FunkyBob> thanks
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638[05:01:50] <iflema> thats a 503 closed for repair
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639[05:03:30] <iflema> perhaps make useless noise
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642[05:05:15] <FunkyBob> seems a little less than their usual
professional standard to not put up a page for that
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648[05:07:38] <iflema> maybe its getting ddos'd
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650[05:07:51] <iflema> lol
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651[05:08:13] <GenTooMan> dvs: thanks that is what I needed to
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652[05:08:40] <dvs> yay
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653[05:08:42] <iflema> keep up the good work
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664[05:15:15] <k_sze[work]> I'm a bit confused about
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665[05:15:25] <k_sze[work]> Is it an NTP client, an NTP server?
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685[05:22:28] <niconico> did popcorn time break for anyone using
debian 9.2?
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687[05:23:45] <annadane> niconico, i'm not sure popcorn
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689[05:24:11] <niconico> it's not. I happened to install a
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690[05:24:24] <annadane> well, that's a bad idea
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691[05:24:25] <niconico> either way it broke completely and was
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693[05:25:01] <niconico> I know it's, but it's the
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694[05:25:27] <Uberius> XDDDD
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746[06:12:11] <binary106> hi does anyone know if syslog receives
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755[06:21:29] <Agafnd> so a day or two a go i found mate
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756[06:21:54] <Agafnd> seems "terminal bell" was on in
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757[06:22:14] <Agafnd> but now i find all the other applications
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758[06:22:29] <Agafnd> i don't *think* i changed anything
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759[06:22:48] <Agafnd> but how is that turned off? it's
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760[06:23:01] <Agafnd> and plays even when the sound is muted :(
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799[07:14:53] <la-o-wai> weather
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800[07:15:11] <han-solo> !weather
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802[07:15:26] <han-solo> :}
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803[07:15:34] <la-o-wai> fail
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847[07:38:36] <la-o-wai> ?
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852[07:39:31] <wgas> Hi i shutdown my laptop with kaffeine still
running the other day now i only get a black window with popup
control bar at the bottom, this is messages from starting with
terminal
replaced-url
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853[07:39:32] <wgas> uninstalled and reinstalled without change
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858[07:42:26] <la-o-wai> wgas: you shut down?
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860[07:42:59] <wgas> yes, ive done it before on jessie without a
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864[07:46:53] <wgas> tried deleting all the config files for
kaffeine i could find but still no go
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866[07:49:03] <jelly> wgas: does it work with a different, newly
created, user?
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868[07:49:25] <wgas> havent tried that yet
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869[07:49:44] <jelly> if it does that points to leftover config
_somewhere_ in your normal user's home
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870[07:50:49] <wgas> ah good idea will try that after i eat,
thanks
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871[07:51:40] <la-o-wai> never do the upgrade
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892[08:05:38] <wgas> ok how do i add new user on stretch lxde?
no "users" in settings (was using cinnamon jessie b4)
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895[08:07:29] <annadane> wgas, "man adduser"
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901[08:13:31] <wgas> thnx, annadane
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904[08:15:19] <wgas> how do i add another desktop? i want to try
kde-plasma
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912[08:19:53] <jelly> !install kde
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913[08:19:53] <dpkg> The 'kde-standard' package gets
you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and
'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with
respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything
KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1):
from the 'Software selection' dialog, choose
"KDE" (use space bar to toggle selections), then
"Continue".
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916[08:20:26] <jelly> those still exist in stretch with plasma5
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919[08:21:00] <wgas> cool thnx jelly
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935[08:34:32] <vlt> Hello. Is there a way to make a DHCP request
without actually changing any network configuration? I want to see
what IP address and gateway I *would* get assigned.
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941[08:39:35] <nix64bit> vlt: would arp cache not find that?
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944[08:40:19] <Iridos> vlt, did you look at "man
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973[08:49:36] <Iridos> also -d and possibly -v
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1087[09:46:45] <dionysus69> morning
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1089[09:47:15] <patsToms> "dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb
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1157[10:28:04] <patsToms> rosa, maybe you can use some shortcut
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1173[10:32:44] <rosa> Lol
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1186[10:40:46] <altker128> Hey guys. I'm having a weird
issue with x11vnc segfaulting whenever I click on a menu item ; it
happens with both RealVNC viewer (6.x) and UltraVNC ; Is there an
alternative VNC server I can try?
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1198[10:50:45] <altker128> Well I think I "fixed it" by
running compiz
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1199[10:50:48] <altker128> let's see if it stays working
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1215[11:00:47] <Iridos> what menu?
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1235[11:13:59] <J3FF> hey guys, I am running debian 8. where can
I see my bootlog? there is no /var/log/boot
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1239[11:15:06] <petn-randall> J3FF: You need to install bootlogd
for that.
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1242[11:15:57] <J3FF> thank you
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1246[11:19:00] <petn-randall> No problem :)
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1261[11:30:57] <kbob> hello, when I try to startx in tty1 I get:
Only console users are allowed to run the X server. How I can login
tty2 or tty6?
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1266[11:32:33] <Iridos> tty1 should qualify as "console
user"
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1272[11:34:31] <kbob> Iridos: yes, usually.
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1276[11:37:32] <blingrang_> Hi, I need help. I was trying to
remove a program like so "apt-get purge <program>*".
Notice the asterik. I didn't realize it but the regex matched a
hold load of other programs as well.
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1279[11:38:42] <vlt> Hello. `dhclient -n eth1` prints its
"Usage" help (not listing an "-n" option ) and
exits, while `man dhclient` explicitly shows "-n Do not
configure any interfaces". This is on Debian 8. Any idea what
I'm doing wrong here?
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1280[11:39:02] <blingrang_> It removed about 10 to 15 programs
before I realized it and stopped it.
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1281[11:39:09] <blingrang_> How do I reverse this?
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1282[11:39:39] <vlt> blingrang_: apt-get install <all the
programs you don't want to be uninstalled listed here>
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1283[11:39:58] <colo-work> blingrang_, the configs are probably
lost, but look in /var/log/apt/history* for the list of removed
packages
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1284[11:40:15] <at0m> blingrang_: /var/log/apt/*.log will have
history ^
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1293[11:43:58] <blingrang_> vlt, colo-work at0m this is the shell
output during the catastrophe.
replaced-url
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1294[11:44:31] <colo-work> hehe
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1296[11:44:43] <colo-work> none of the packages removed in that
paste are vital afaik
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1298[11:44:56] <colo-work> reinstalling them should repair your
setup
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1299[11:44:59] <at0m> blingrang_: then don't reboot. and an
"apt -f install" tries to "fix" current changes.
that, or either manually review changes in aptitude
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1302[11:45:30] <at0m> either way, carefully review the changes
apt/aptitude proposes
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1305[11:45:53] <blingrang_> colo-work, thanks for the reassurance
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1307[11:46:15] <blingrang_> yeah I'll install them again.
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1309[11:46:38] <Iridos> makes you wonder what regexp matches
those 784 package names… they don't start with the same
letter, nor end with it
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1311[11:46:48] <at0m> lib* mwahah
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1313[11:47:15] <Iridos> anyway, this is ubuntu… ask
#ubuntu for ubuntu questions
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1316[11:49:45] <blingrang_> at0m, Iridos it was "tor*"
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1324[11:54:34] <blingrang_> How abiword* even matches tor* though
is beyond me.
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1333[11:59:22] <at0m> blingrang_: ediTOR ?
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1334[12:00:01] <at0m> anyhow, review *any* changes apt wants to
make.
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1335[12:00:10] <blingrang_> lesson learned.
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1336[12:00:30] <at0m> we all have one way or another =)
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1369[12:14:41] <Rembo> hello, i'm getting this error when i
try to start apache :
replaced-url
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1375[12:19:13] <donut_> Rembo: forgot to include modules needed
by phpmyadmin?
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1376[12:19:25] <donut_> or you have a typo and a variable is set
as command
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1381[12:22:57] <Rembo> donut_ :
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1383[12:23:37] <k_sze[work]> Erm...
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1385[12:23:54] <k_sze[work]> apt-get install sendmail
automatically uninstalls postfix
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1386[12:23:59] <k_sze[work]> how is that a good idea?
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1388[12:24:19] <themill> you can only have 1 MTA installed
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1389[12:24:35] <k_sze[work]> yes, but I expect apt-get to tell me
there's a conflict.
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1390[12:24:41] <themill> well it does
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1394[12:27:41] <k_sze[work]> I mean I expect it to tell me
there's a conflict AND THEN abort installing sendmail.
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1396[12:28:22] <at0m> k_sze[work]: apt doesn't ask for
confirmation?
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1398[12:28:27] <k_sze[work]> at0m: it didn't.
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1399[12:28:35] <at0m> like, before it proceeds w the install? hmm
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1405[12:29:54] <at0m> it does here. can you cat
/etc/debian_version ?
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1409[12:30:38] <themill> I bet it did ask for confirmation
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1411[12:31:10] <at0m> ^
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1412[12:31:13] <themill> (unless you'd --force-yes or
something, in which case, you get what is coming to you)
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1414[12:31:47] <b4d> Any idea why /etc/debian_version was not
updated on my sistem from 9.1 to 9.2 after apt-get dist-upgrade?
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1416[12:32:02] <themill> b4d: because it wasn't bumped (by
mistake)
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1417[12:32:14] <b4d> themill: thanks :)
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1418[12:32:33] <masterkorp> somiaj | masterkorp: What graphics
card? I think fglrx is discontinued and amdgpupro only supports
newer cards
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1419[12:32:45] <masterkorp> well, how do i install that then?
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1420[12:32:47] <themill> it is bumped in stretch-updates
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1422[12:33:34] <donut_> Rembo: yes but do you have "Include
/etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf" in your /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
?
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1423[12:34:27] <donut_> as per phpmyadmin installation
documentation
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1430[12:37:47] <Rembo> donut_ , yes it is the last line added
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1433[12:39:01] <k_sze[work]> Looks like it did warn, but the
message got drowned.
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1434[12:39:08] <k_sze[work]> which still doesn't help.
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1450[12:48:19] <anexit_> tw: figure it out, basically you have to
use tunnel mode to esp entire networks. Transport is only to
transport between two devices. According to tcp/ip from no starch
press you want tunnel mode as it's less overhead cause you can
do entire netblocks. So in the end you want your ipsec-tools.conf
racoon.conf files to point to the gif/gre/tun ips and then you
basically "allow" what needs access to those
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1451[12:48:25] <anexit_> through spdadd in tunnel mode
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1452[12:48:51] <Rembo> any suggestions?
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1453[12:49:01] <anexit_> setting isakmpd to the tunnels will
pretty much force traffic down them.
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1454[12:49:28] <donut_> Rembo: well you are definitely missing
some parts of phpmyadmin
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1457[12:49:40] <anexit_> OR you can setup tunnel mode to the
public ip addresses which you don't need gif/tun/gre as ipsec
has its own tunnel protocol.
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1458[12:49:42] <donut_> or they are in the wrong place
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1469[12:55:29] <masterkorp> Guys i am trying to install AMD
drivers
replaced-url
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1520[13:25:59] <masterkorp> any ideas?
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1553[13:55:11] <juslintek> Hi, how to resolve ip to ISP?
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1555[13:56:01] <gpunk> what do you mean ?
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1561[13:58:44] <la-o-wai> use whois
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1562[13:59:00] <la-o-wai> !whois
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1563[13:59:00] <dpkg> i heard whois is for domainnames, or for
IRC
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1565[13:59:27] <gpunk> it works on IPs too
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1566[13:59:42] <juslintek> Okay, I want to get geolocation with
as little as possible of margin of accuracy radius.
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1567[13:59:53] <juslintek> I want to get geolocation of the ip.
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1568[14:00:04] <la-o-wai> why you need that
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1571[14:00:29] <jelly> juslintek: you'll want to pay a geoip
provider for any decent accuracy
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1572[14:00:29] <juslintek> la-o-wai, I'm creating a tool, to
do that. Would be useful. :-)
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1573[14:00:33] <gpunk> all you'll have is the phisical
address of the ISP
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1575[14:00:57] <la-o-wai> i think the best way to know ones geo
is to get him share it on whatsapp
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1576[14:01:17] <juslintek> Jelly, madmind2 is very inaccurate,
lite is 200 km accuracy radius, while paid one is 50 of most of my
tool users.
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1577[14:01:25] <han-solo> IPs are not very reliable for
geolocation tracing, no?
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1578[14:01:38] <han-solo> even with the triangulation?
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1581[14:02:08] <juslintek> han-solo, I need as accurate as
possible method which is available today. I really want this to
work. :-)
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1582[14:02:13] <juslintek> Otherwise its useless.
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1583[14:02:46] <jelly> juslintek: in any case, I don't think
you'll find the answer within the confines of Debian distro
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1584[14:03:03] <juslintek> Jelly, can you please recommend where
to look for it?
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1585[14:03:12] <la-o-wai> networking
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1586[14:03:26] <juslintek> Jelly, I'm building chrome
extension. And I want people to know where website owners are
located.
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1588[14:03:50] <juslintek> I mean website servers.
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1591[14:04:09] <la-o-wai> you build a website
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1592[14:04:13] <la-o-wai> make him visit
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1594[14:05:08] <tommaso> justlintek: make XHR requests from the
web extension to some site that supports web whois queries
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1599[14:05:48] <jelly> juslintek: I'd ask in ##programming
or #web
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1601[14:06:16] <la-o-wai> juslintek: i dont think you can make it
work
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1605[14:07:20] <jelly> I don't think this is a question for
#debian
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1608[14:08:49] <la-o-wai> juslintek: you need to ask people who
work in isp
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1615[14:10:13] <la-o-wai> juslintek: you can build something that
let them visit on mobile, possibly collect the gps info
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1622[14:11:22] <jelly> la-o-wai: there are people in here who
already work at an ISP. Still it does not make the issue more
related to Debian. And juslintek is not looking for location of
clients, he's looking for location of web servers.
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1623[14:11:36] <la-o-wai> ok
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1630[14:13:52] <ntz> hello
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1636[14:14:32] <ntz> I have meta-Q:, can somebody having a laptop
with mobile nvidia 1050 share with me if it works with nouveau ?
I'm just asking before buying
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1641[14:15:40] <eoli4n> Hi
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1642[14:16:01] <la-o-wai> hi
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1643[14:16:02] <eoli4n> i can't apt-get update because of an
apt-key error in a chrooted debootstrap debian 9
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1645[14:16:05] <eoli4n>
replaced-url
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1650[14:17:22] <themill> eoli4n: that's pretty broken perms
for /tmp
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1653[14:17:59] <eoli4n> chmod 777 /tmp did the trick
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1655[14:18:23] <jelly> eoli4n: you want 1777
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1656[14:18:56] <eoli4n> i already had 1
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1661[14:19:29] <jelly> eoli4n: and you don't want to lose it
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1667[14:20:18] <la-o-wai> root can open other users /home?
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1668[14:20:22] <jelly> (I'm not sure whether 1000 bit is
kept after a chmod 777 /tmp like eg. 2000 setgid bit, if it is,
great)
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1672[14:21:14] <jelly> la-o-wai: yes
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1674[14:21:30] <eoli4n> it keep the 1 with chmod 777
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1675[14:21:36] <jelly> gotcha
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1681[14:23:23] <themill> it shouldn't
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1682[14:23:55] <themill> From the fine manual (and in agreement
with a quick test): «Omitted digits are assumed to be leading
zeros.»
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1683[14:24:07] <Guest25072> hello
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1684[14:24:19] <eoli4n> try by yourself themill, maybe it's
a bug
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1685[14:24:20] <Guest25072> is this the right room to ask about
debian?
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1686[14:24:22] <eoli4n> but it worked for me
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1687[14:24:25] <jelly> hey, if they say it's drwxrwxrwt 2
root root now, I trust them :-)
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1688[14:24:26] <themill> I did try it
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1689[14:25:06] <eoli4n> hm
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1690[14:25:16] <eoli4n> on archlinux it doesnt keep it
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1691[14:25:25] <jelly> eoli4n: lack of sticky bit will make
anyone able to delete anyone's file in /tmp (and put their own
in the same place instead)
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1693[14:26:50] <eoli4n> that's strange, i reproduce the
exact same thing on another dir, the 1 is not kept
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1715[14:40:34] <flizzy> I did try to install Debian on my laptop
yesterday night. However I did run into a problem! I want to install
it in English, my Location is Germany - because these two don't
have a preset Keyboard layout (I think thats what it was called) I
had to pick one from a list - however it did only offer me English
layouts which obviously my laptop's keyboard isn't.
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1716[14:41:29] <la-o-wai> well
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1717[14:41:40] <la-o-wai> what layout german use
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1728[14:45:22] <flizzy> Give me a second, I don't think it
was called just layout
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1734[14:46:09] <petn-randall> flizzy: Which installer and release
are you using? IIRC there's a way to set the language and
keyboard layout separately, I have such a setup.
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1735[14:46:12] <armin> hi. i want a 2nd X server to be running
all the time, also with a 2nd additional login manager or eventually
a full blown 2nd additional session. any hint where to configure
this or what to look for?
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1738[14:46:43] <petn-randall> armin: It's possible, but
there are some caveats. What do you want to achieve with it?
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1740[14:47:03] <flizzy> The most recent lxde release, graphical
installer
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1741[14:47:05] <armin> petn-randall: i want to be able to run
different X sessions at the same time, obviously.
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1743[14:47:13] <flizzy> From an usb stick
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1746[14:47:46] <ntz> la-o-wai: can you retard tell me why do you
ctcp me ?
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1747[14:47:49] <armin> petn-randall: eventually as the same user,
eventually not.
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1748[14:48:06] <la-o-wai> ntz: no?
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1750[14:48:12] <armin> petn-randall: i basically just want what i
have on ctrl-alt-f7 on ctrl-alt-f8, too.
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1751[14:48:26] <armin> petn-randall: seperately lock-able,
seperately log-in'nable, etc.
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1753[14:48:45] <ntz> la-o-wai: so stop doing that you fucker and
I suggest you to NOT do it to anybody else you bitch
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1754[14:49:02] <nku> classy
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1755[14:49:26] <la-o-wai> ntz: shut up already, its a big
channel, things happened
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1756[14:49:59] <babilen> ntz: Please keep it civil in here
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1757[14:50:08] <babilen> la-o-wai: You too
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1761[14:51:09] <ntz> la-o-wai: it's important for other to
know as well
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1763[14:51:22] <armin> petn-randall: any further information you
could provide?
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1766[14:51:44] <flizzy> Or maybe I just install it in German -
and then switch languages after the installation?
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1767[14:51:50] <petn-randall> armin: Wouldn't it be easier
to use workspaces with the same X server?
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1772[14:53:44] <armin> petn-randall: oh come on...
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1783[14:56:43] <rosarossa> !list
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1784[14:56:43] <dpkg> rosarossa: vedi
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1793[14:58:54] <hexnewbie> gpg: signing failed: No pinentry
← what could possibly be causing this? Removed pinentry-curses
and installed pinentry-tty in hopes I would be able to add packages
to my Debian repos, but nope
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1794[14:59:27] <hexnewbie> How to force gpg to stop using the
pinentry nonsense? Since the upgrade to stretch all my reprepro
scripts are broken
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1799[15:01:35] <hexnewbie> In particular, how to add my package
if my terminal is "not a terminal"?
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1800[15:02:29] <hexnewbie> Apparently, the kernel now defaults to
newinstance for devpts, so my /dev/pts device no longer exists.
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1801[15:02:38] <themill> what are these reprepro scripts?
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1804[15:02:52] <themill> (it's awfully hard to debug things
you can't see)
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1806[15:03:21] <hexnewbie> I don't think it matters,
I'm testing with gpg --sign
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1807[15:03:23] <jelly> full commands and their complete outputs
would be nice, hexnewbie
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1810[15:03:42] <hexnewbie> Full command: echo 'x' | gpg
--sign
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1812[15:03:49] <hexnewbie> Full output: gpg: signing failed: No
pinentry
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1814[15:04:06] <jelly> hexnewbie: and where are you invoking that
from, a normal interactive shell?
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1815[15:04:07] <themill> that works just fine for me
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1819[15:04:54] <hexnewbie> jelly: I'm chrooting into a
Stretch chroot, starting gpg-start --daemon bash, then running it.
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1823[15:05:48] <jelly> hexnewbie: and what's outside the
chroot, and which user are you using?
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1825[15:05:55] <jelly> inside?
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1829[15:06:21] <hexnewbie> jelly: root. The issue is that after
the upgrade to kernel 4.8 (added with stretch) of the outer OS as
well, /dev/pts inside the chroot changed. I assume the issue is that
we now default to newinstance for devpts mounts.
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1830[15:07:21] <themill> You wouldn't have a sensible /dev
at all inside the chroot
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1831[15:07:28] <petn-randall> armin: If it's the same user,
I'd use workspaces. For separate users, most DMs support
multiple user sessions and will spawn new X servers for every
separate user.
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1832[15:07:51] <petn-randall> armin: lightdm/gdm/kdm support the
latter AFAIK.
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1834[15:07:59] <hexnewbie> themill: It's a bind mount to the
external one in this case, but I don't need /dev, just /dev/pts
- which is separate
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1835[15:08:12] <jelly> hexnewbie: do you have a /dev/ptmx inside
the chroot and /dev/pts?
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1836[15:08:28] <hexnewbie> I'm trying to bruteforce possible
options for -t devpts, and seems that nonewinstance is not a valid
one
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1837[15:08:32] <themill> hexnewbie: you keep dribbling more
details. You have no idea how annoying this is
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1838[15:08:36] <jelly> hexnewbie: do you know how UNIX98 ttys
work?
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1839[15:08:42] <hexnewbie> jelly: Yes
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1840[15:09:02] <hexnewbie> themill: What details have I left out?
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1841[15:09:14] <jelly> hexnewbie: is there a /dev/ptmx inside
chroot?
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1842[15:09:18] <themill> HFSIK?
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1843[15:09:26] <hexnewbie> The /dev/pts inside the chroot is
different from the one outside the chroot after the upgrade to
kernel 4.8
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1844[15:09:40] * jelly waits for the answer
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1845[15:09:42] <armin> petn-randall: well if that wasn't
obvious, i don't want a workaround, i want a solution to the
actual problem here.
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1847[15:10:12] <hexnewbie> jelly: Yes. There is. /dev inside the
chroot is the same as the one on the outside (it's a bind
mount, as mentioned). The terminal has been opened outside the
chroot, so nothing inside the chroot opens /dev/ptmx
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1849[15:10:26] <themill> We've gone from gpg is broken to
reprepro is broken to gpg in a chroot is broken to gpg in a chroot
with some arbitrary bind mounts.
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1850[15:10:28] <armin> petn-randall: to ease our view on the
problem, let's assume i want lightdm on tty7 and xdm on tty8.
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1855[15:12:28] <phre4k> how do I configure my debian server to
get a stateless global IPv6? I've tried wide-dhcpv6-client, but
it just won't work
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1856[15:12:43] <phre4k> dhclient -6 doesn't work either
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1857[15:12:51] <hexnewbie> Replacing 'mount -t devpts
devpts-chr /chroot/dev/pts' with 'mount -o bind,private
/dev/pts /chroot/dev/pts' fixes the issue. Does that mean that
with kernel 4.8 and stretch, I have to use a bind mount instead of
directly mounting devpts? There's no option (or way) to restore
the behaviour without (e.g. mount devpts without -o newinstance)
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1859[15:12:58] <phre4k> what's the "default" way
of doing this?
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1861[15:14:33] <jelly> hexnewbie: if you want ttys inside the
chroot to work, you can 1) either make bind-mounted ptmx and devpts
work, or 2) make the second instance of ptmx and devpts available
only inside the chroot work
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1863[15:15:15] <hexnewbie> jelly: Yeah, I'm using the first
option, however, /dev was a bind mount, and /dev/pts wasn't -
which worked with jessie and kernel 3.16.
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1866[15:15:36] <jelly> hexnewbie: and it _looks like_ you want
them to work because you said > <hexnewbie> In particular,
how to add my package if my terminal is "not a terminal"?
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1867[15:16:35] <hexnewbie> jelly: Well, I didn't wanted to
quick and dirty add the package (since it's a critical security
update -when will Debian start delivering those), without having to
kill the 80 open terminals that are using the existing /dev/pts.
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1868[15:16:46] <hexnewbie> s/didn't//
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1869[15:16:49] <jelly> hexnewbie: if the kernel now makes a
second devpts inside chroot by default, then presumably you need to
use a second ptmx control device
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1871[15:17:32] <jelly> hexnewbie: and that, in turn, means
you'll want to make changes to /dev inside that chroot and make
it separate from /dev outside
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1875[15:18:34] <ForceRecon> in all honesty.. what is the point of
doing all that stuff.. seems like a real pain to configure and if
anything were to happen to you who else would know how to fix it? Is
this really normal for setting up a server? I am truly curious as I
don't know
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1876[15:18:46] <hexnewbie> jelly: Yeah, will make sure I use the
same type of mount (bind one) for /dev and /dev/pts here. But in my
case /dev/ptmx inside is rarely used (I don't open screen or
tmux inside the chroot, in fact those are not installed, nor
anything else that creates ptys)
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1877[15:18:47] <jelly> hexnewbie: I have no idea how this
separate devpts works now, but seeing it contains a /dev/pts/ptmx of
its own, maybe you want to symlink /dev/ptmx -> pts/ptmx inside
the chroot so old userspace can use the standard location
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1879[15:19:16] <jelly> hexnewbie: I'm GUESSING WILDLY that
pinentry-tty might, you know, try to use a tty
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1882[15:21:54] <hexnewbie> jelly: I killed the processes inside
and remounted with a bind mount. I was able to add the packages.
Thanks for the hints.
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1886[15:23:24] <jelly> hexnewbie: next time perhaps explain in
advance what your environment looks like, to avoid frustration on
helper volunteer's side
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1889[15:23:51] <hexnewbie> As for pinentry-tty, once I installed
it the error message changed to ‘Inappropriate ioctl for
device’ to ‘No pinetry’, which suggested to me a
different source of the problem, though
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1890[15:24:04] <armin> interesting, when just creating a new
additional lightdm config file and specifying minimum-vt=8 in there,
i just get a black screen on all connected monitor outputs on
tty8...
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1892[15:25:46] <hexnewbie> jelly: Yeah, sorry. I was also
realising the details as I was asking. It didn't even occur to
me that the chroot mattered until I installed screen inside and
notice it failed too.
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1893[15:26:38] <hexnewbie> Or rather, a moment before I installed
screen to test if the chroot was at play.
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1948[15:53:46] <tiredofflatmates> i have tried limiting the speed
of my wlan0 nich with the ethtool, but it gives me a cannot get
current device settings: operation not supported. Can you guys
recommend a way where i could limit a nicks speed to lets say 2Mbps
?
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1958[15:57:54] <Eduard_Munteanu> tiredofflatmates, do you want to
set the transmission rate or simply do traffic shaping?
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1961[15:59:38] <tiredofflatmates> uhmm, traffic shaping could
also be a option, u just want to make sure that the interface will
only allow 2Mbps in or out :)
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1965[16:01:49] <phre4k> tiredofflatmates: why would you do
traffic shaping on a client?
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1966[16:02:03] <phre4k> shouldn't you do it on a router?
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1968[16:02:51] <tiredofflatmates> its a old laptop acting as a
router, basically :)
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1971[16:04:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> Some firewall packages can do
it, otherwise you can set it up yourself but it's rather
involved.
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1974[16:05:02] <Eduard_Munteanu>
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1975[16:05:02] <ForceRecon> invest in open mesh.. then you can
specify exactly how much bandwidth each USER can get
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1978[16:06:42] <hellyeah> isnt it weird?
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1979[16:07:09] <phre4k> tiredofflatmates: if you have a bit of
money to spare, get an Ubiquiti EdgeRouter ER-X (60€) and a
Ubiquiti AP AC Pro (140€)
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1981[16:07:34] <phre4k> tiredofflatmates: they have wonderful
traffic shaping capabilities
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1982[16:07:40] <nix64bit> what about mikrotik router?
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1983[16:07:40] <themill> hellyeah: no?
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1984[16:07:54] <phre4k> nix64bit: Mikrotik routers can probably
do it, too
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1985[16:08:28] <tiredofflatmates> phre4k: we are not allowed, its
a sorta "deal with it" situation .. so im dealing with it
;)
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1987[16:09:19] <hellyeah> i suppose updaate-alternatives show the
part of java right
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1988[16:09:43] <phre4k> tiredofflatmates: who's
"we" and you're not allowed to do what?
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1991[16:10:19] <themill> hellyeah:
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2002[16:14:36] <tw> speaking of java, is there a package for
openj9?
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2004[16:14:45] <tw> Doesn't look it.
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2005[16:15:20] <themill> ,v openjdk-9-jdk
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2006[16:15:21] <judd> Package: openjdk-9-jdk on amd64 --
stretch-backports: 9~b181-4~bpo9+1; buster: 9~b181-4; sid: 9~b181-4
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2007[16:15:24] <themill> (yes)
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2014[16:17:26] <AlexPortable> Is it possible to get memory
information and only return 500MB/3GB ?
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2017[16:18:11] <petn-randall> !context
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2018[16:18:11] <dpkg> Try to give enough context! For example,
let us know which command/program you are running, what you
expected, and what you got instead. Try to be as specific as
possible. If your command produced output, share the complete
command (with all parameters!) and its output on
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2019[16:18:17] <petn-randall> AlexPortable: ^^^
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2021[16:18:49] <hellyeah> my os knows javac
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2022[16:18:58] <hellyeah> but there is nothing in
update-alternatives
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2025[16:19:03] <hellyeah> thats interesting
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2026[16:19:16] <AlexPortable> petn-randall: how is there context
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2027[16:19:33] <tw> themill: openj9
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2028[16:19:44] <tw> not quite the same thing.
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2029[16:19:50] <AlexPortable> I want to run a command and get
500MB/3GB (500 mb used of 3 gb in total), and not get a whole huge
list with total used free shared buffers cached
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2036[16:21:26] <themill> tw: ah, no nothing for that
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2040[16:22:13] <Tenkawa> AlexPortable: you could pipe it into an
awk parse
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2042[16:22:53] <Tenkawa> although theres many other ways to do it
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2044[16:23:05] <petn-randall> AlexPortable: How about telling us
what program you're running? And what you get, and what you
want instead.
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2045[16:23:07] <Tenkawa> thats just the one I know the best
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2046[16:23:31] <petn-randall> AlexPortable: For now, due to lack
of context, my answer is "echo 500MB/3GB".
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2047[16:25:23] <AlexPortable> thanks petn-randall
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2053[16:27:43] <tw> I tried free -h | awk '/^Mem:/{print $3
"/" $2}', but it doesn't give the same result as
you wanted =(
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2056[16:27:56] <phre4k> AlexPortable: free -m | awk '/Mem/
{print $4 " MB used / "$2 " MB total"}'
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2061[16:28:50] <phre4k> tw: ^
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2062[16:28:59] <sphalerite> Hi folks. I want to use debian CDs
(non-netinst), but I can't seem to find an index of the CDs and
which software each one contains. Can anyone point me to one?
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2064[16:29:19] <petn-randall> !cd contents
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2065[16:29:19] <dpkg> To find out which CD or DVD image contains
a particular package or source file, use the search engine at
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2066[16:29:20] <tw> phre4k: that's free and not used though
=p
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2067[16:29:26] <phre4k> tw: lol, you're right
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2068[16:29:29] <petn-randall> sphalerite: see factoid above
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2069[16:29:43] <sphalerite> petn-randall: perfect, thanks
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2070[16:29:51] <petn-randall> sphalerite: you're welcome :)
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it's correct; but isn't that the same thing you did?
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2078[16:33:57] <tw> yes, but mine printed 750M/16G and not
500M/3G
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2079[16:34:06] <tw> so it failed testing =(
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2082[16:34:40] <AlexPortable> thanks phre4k
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2083[16:34:42] <phre4k> tw: lololol :D
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2096[16:39:05] <graps> Hi. Is there anyone here that can help
track down a cgi-bin issue ?
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2097[16:39:39] <petn-randall> graps: If it's on a Debian
system, ask ahead.
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2100[16:40:56] <graps> Okay. I keep getting 403 forbidden on my
Debian Wheezy setup. I've been working on 000-default and it
still shows ExecCGI is off for my cgi-bin directory
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2108[16:46:30] <bezaban> graps: apache2? is the cgi module
enabled? what do the logs say?
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2111[16:47:47] <bezaban> and the directory block has a Options
+ExecCGI
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2117[16:48:46] <graps> bezaban: Yes, apache2. I think the CGI
module is enabled, I see cgid.conf. The /var/log/apache2/error.log
mentions Options ExecCGI is off in this
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2118[16:48:54] <graps> directory: /var/replaced-url
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2123[16:50:09] <bezaban> that's probably the module logging
that, but you can try apache2ctl -M to verify. Directory block needs
the abovementioned Options line
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2126[16:50:29] <graps> bezaban: I can paste the 000-default file
in a pastebin. Which pastebin do you want me to use ?
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2128[16:51:25] <bezaban> graps: any one really, use
paste.debian.net. I mostly run nginx and do no cgi, but can have a
quick look, maybe someone else sees something too :)
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2131[16:53:16] <graps> bezaban:
replaced-url
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2136[16:55:58] <bezaban> graps: well yes.. that does look right.
You restarted apache right?
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2138[16:56:31] <graps> bezaban: Yes, with a service apache2
reload
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2156[17:02:23] <bezaban> graps: Options FollowSymLinks MultiViews
ExecCGI that line might need some +/-?
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2159[17:03:15] <bezaban> Or just remove it, not sure how settings
propagate down directoriews
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2164[17:04:02] <graps> bezaban: In the Directory /var/replaced-url
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2165[17:04:07] <bezaban> graps: yeah
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2166[17:04:39] <bezaban> girlfriend home, gotta head to shop.
Good luck. Unusually quiet here now
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2171[17:06:14] <graps> bezaban: Okay, thanks. I'll try to
work with the script a few minutes more
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2178[17:07:34] <Ragnar> While trying to install Debian from USB I
get told that the disk drive is not working / not found. The
installation then tells me it cannot proceed. Laptop is a t400.
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2182[17:07:51] <Ragnar> What can I do about this?
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2183[17:08:03] <petn-randall> Ragnar: Did you use unetbooting or
something similar to prepare the USB stick?
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2184[17:08:15] <petn-randall> s/unetbooting/unetbootin/
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2187[17:09:02] <phre4k> can somebody PLEASE help me with my IPv6
SLAAC client?
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2189[17:09:20] <phre4k> I see the router advertisements in
wireshark but my clients don't assign themselves an IP
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2191[17:09:56] <phre4k> I've tried dhclient -6 and
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2205[17:15:25] <petn-randall> Ragnar: You PMed me that you used
lili. That will be your problem.
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2206[17:15:51] <Ragnar> @petn-randall then I'll check out
unetbootin
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2207[17:16:10] <petn-randall> Ragnar: Check the release notes how
to prepare USB images. On Linux a simple 'cp debian.img
/dev/sdx' is enough, for windows use win32diskimager.
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2208[17:16:35] <petn-randall> Ragnar: DON'T use unetbootin,
it also breaks the installer.
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2209[17:16:53] <Ragnar> OK, thanks
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2223[17:21:09] <Delf> On Buster now, touchpad doesn't work
here either.
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2228[17:23:00] <hellyeah> is it possible to install xcodebuild on
debian
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2234[17:25:55] <babilen> hellyeah: Isn't that an Apple
thing?
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2237[17:28:55] <sphalerite> are there any mirrors that still host
packages for ancient versions like lenny?
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2243[17:30:16] <Megaf> Hi all
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2244[17:30:35] <Megaf> for some weird reason QEMU is not booting
from Debian ISOs
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2245[17:30:50] <Megaf> as if they are not bootable
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2247[17:31:10] <babilen> sphalerite:
replaced-url
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2252[17:31:24] <sphalerite> babilen: thanks!
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2253[17:31:35] <babilen> But please don't put more lenny
boxes out there! ;)
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2254[17:32:15] <hellyeah> babilen: yeah it is apple there is
something called ionic and clam you can improve ios application
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2255[17:32:18] <sphalerite> babilen: just a virtual machine to
try some stuff out
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2256[17:32:32] <hellyeah> ionic has linux version and didnt state
you cannot develop ios app. in linux
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2257[17:32:33] <babilen> sphalerite: Fair enough :)
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2258[17:32:47] <Megaf> Ok, ISO is fine, VBox can boot
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2260[17:32:52] <Megaf> but qemucant
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2261[17:32:55] <Megaf> hm
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2262[17:33:15] <babilen> hellyeah: You'd install xcodebuild
on Debian in the same way you install it on any other Linux, but my
impression is that it is very much an OSX tool
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2264[17:33:28] <babilen> Maybe Apple will give you the source if
you ask nicely for it
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2265[17:33:50] <hellyeah> there is no xcodebuild package on
debian
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2267[17:34:04] <babilen> hellyeah: Is there sourcecode for it?
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2268[17:34:05] <hellyeah> yeah
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2269[17:34:17] <hellyeah> not sure about that
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2276[17:35:16] <Mmike> Hello, lads! Do you know how to make
debsign NOT to open window for entering passphrase?
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2278[17:35:21] <Mmike> when debuild invokes it?
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2282[17:35:49] <sphalerite> hellyeah:
replaced-url
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2290[17:38:26] <hellyeah> obviously there is no way
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2291[17:38:36] <Delf> Is there any way to install a
"new" and fresh old-stable?
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2297[17:40:49] <petn-randall> Mmike: --no-sign, this is passed to
dpkg-buildpackage and documented in its man page.
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2298[17:40:56] <hexhaxtron> How can I change my IP to
192.168.1.102?
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2299[17:41:36] <Megaf> Delf, sure
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2302[17:41:49] <Megaf> I have a brand new Jessie install on this
very laptop
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2303[17:41:53] <Megaf> no worries
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2305[17:42:06] <Mmike> petn-randall, is there an env var I can
use to set this up? I've set DEBSIGN_PROGRAM="gpg
--no-use-agent", but I still get asked for a passphrase via
gtk/x11/whatnot window
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2307[17:43:08] <petn-randall> Mmike: Wait, do you want to *not*
sign your package, or just have the prompt in the terminal instead
of an X11 program?
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2309[17:43:51] <Mmike> petn-randall, the latter, prompt in
terminal
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2310[17:45:07] <petn-randall> Mmike: I see. You could try the
answers on this page:
replaced-url
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2315[17:47:10] <Delf> Megaf: Can't find the iso
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2323[17:48:25] <Megaf> Delf, what version you'd like?
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2324[17:48:33] <Megaf> answer quick
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2326[17:48:56] <Delf> Jessie!
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2327[17:48:56] <Megaf> too late
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2328[17:49:01] <Megaf> Delf,
replaced-url
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2329[17:49:03] <Delf> Damn it…
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2330[17:49:07] <Megaf> help yourself now
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2331[17:49:11] <Delf> Yay! :D
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2340[17:55:36] <hellyeah> can i say update-alternatives are using
for setting environment variable
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2343[17:56:58] <hexhaxtron> I need help getting a Internet
connection. I did ifconfig enp0s31f6 192.168.1.102 and then dhclient
and it was working but now I try ping
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2344[17:57:20] <hexhaxtron> ping gives me temporary failure in
name resolution
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2345[17:57:23] <Megaf> Delf, you're welcome
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2354[17:58:46] <somiaj> hexhaxtron: what does ping 8.8.8.8 do?
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2356[17:59:19] <somiaj> hexhaxtron: though assigning an ipaddress
then running dhclient could conflict. Also any reason why you
don't just use the debian interfaces file for configuration?
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2358[17:59:39] <hexhaxtron> somiaj, nothing happens, it seems
stuck.
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2360[17:59:54] <hexhaxtron> somiaj, I need the machine to get
192.168.1.102 everytime it boots.
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2368[18:01:15] <somiaj> hexhaxtron: then just add this to the
interfaces file. You can set static address there.
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2371[18:01:21] <muse> set up a static ip in
/etc/network/interfaces, hexhaxtron
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2375[18:01:33] <somiaj> after you add that to your interfaces you
can ifup enp0s31f6 to check it works, then it should come up at
boot.
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2378[18:02:06] <nmschulte> I'm looking for help obtaining a
DHCP lease on an IPv6 network. Public WiFi (unencrypted) at a shop.
I use CLI to connect and obtain a lease (no networkmanager, no
wicd). I can connect to the AP, but dhclient -6 never settles
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2382[18:02:38] <nmschulte> I've never used IPv6 before, so I
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2384[18:03:02] <hexhaxtron> somiaj, is this okay?
replaced-url
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2386[18:03:25] <nmschulte> wlp2s0 iface has local address, but
upon connect I also see another IPv6 addr for wlp2s0. Maybe I just
need to fix routing?
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2387[18:03:41] <somiaj> hexhaxtron: that should be, Im'
unsure if you have to indent line 12 or not. I always do.
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2389[18:04:02] <somiaj> hexhaxtron: you can set other things if
needed, but that should be sufficent, it should efault the gateway,
netmask, broadcast, etc.
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2399[18:07:46] <Delf> Touchpad doesn't work with 6.8 either.
What that hell. Should I try even older?
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2400[18:07:50] <hexhaxtron> somiaj, I rebooted and it got the
192.168.1.102 but when I try ping 8.8.8.8 it says network is
unreachable
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2403[18:08:52] <somiaj> hexhaxtron: look at the output of
'ip a' and 'ip r', also feel free to share it at
paste.debian.net for others to look at.
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2405[18:09:27] <somiaj> Delf: it might just be something about
the touchpad. Newer kernels are usually better in that regard. Do
you know any situations in which the touchpad works?
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2406[18:09:38] <hexhaxtron> I can't pastebin it...
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2412[18:10:23] <somiaj> hexhaxtron: well that is what I would
look at next.
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2420[18:13:19] <nicknight> hello allhow can I add my user to
sudoers list?
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2422[18:13:49] <petn-randall> nicknight: Add your user to the
group "sudo"
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2424[18:14:08] <nicknight> petn-randall: visudo command not
working
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2426[18:14:11] <nicknight> actually
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2428[18:14:32] <nicknight> not able to find sudoers file in /etc
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2434[18:16:09] <somiaj> nicknight: you may need to install the
sudo package. Then as petn-randall said, 'adduser username
sudo' to add yourself to the sudo group.
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2437[18:17:08] <nicknight> somiaj: installusing apt and please
dont mind are you ##math guy ?
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2443[18:20:08] <nicknight> I forgot this ,, it show dvd when i
try to use apt where should I change it?
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2459[18:26:18] <LtL> nicknight: comment out dvd source from
/etc/apt/sources.list AND have proper repo lines in it, then save,
'apt update'
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2468[18:30:45] <nicknight> LtL: Hit:1
replaced-url
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2473[18:31:52] <nicknight> should I add any line? ad comment
above also?
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2474[18:31:56] <LtL> !tell nicknight about sources.list
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2476[18:32:22] <LtL> nicknight: read message from dpkg
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2477[18:32:41] <nicknight> ok thank you
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2503[18:42:06] <nicknight> what is the correct package name of
sudo
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2504[18:42:11] <nicknight> ?
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2508[18:43:10] <petn-randall> nicknight: It's
"sudo".
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2510[18:43:29] <petn-randall> (surprisingly)
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2512[18:43:41] <nicknight> E: Package 'sudo' has no
installation candidate
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2513[18:43:57] <Fjorgynn> :)
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2514[18:44:11] <nicknight> I got above error
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2515[18:44:26] <Fjorgynn> i sudo - Provide limited super user
privileges to specific users
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2516[18:44:30] <towo`> nicknight, paste your sources.list
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2522[18:45:54] <nicknight> towo`:
replaced-url
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2523[18:46:16] <towo`> there is missing the normal stretch repo
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2524[18:46:27] <b0xii> somewhat related...occasionally sudo hangs
for 5 sec or so before it allows password. Any ideas on this? 9.2
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2530[18:47:08] <petn-randall> !stretch sources.list
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2531[18:47:08] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
"Stretch" has three lines: "deb
replaced-url
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2532[18:47:10] <Delf> somiaj: Good question. It seems that
it's not working in michaelsoft wirus either.
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2533[18:47:23] <petn-randall> nicknight: Compare your
sources.list with the one from the factoid above. ^^^
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2535[18:47:38] <nicknight> I copied from same
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2536[18:47:40] <nicknight> I got msg
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2537[18:47:48] <nicknight> from dpkg
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2539[18:47:56] <nicknight> Ok my irc client
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2540[18:47:59] <nicknight> :(
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2541[18:48:21] <petn-randall> nicknight: No, you didn't.
This why I said you need to compare them.
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2543[18:48:39] <nicknight> petn-randall: can Imake dpkg to pase
to a paste
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2544[18:48:58] <LtL> nicknight: seems you omitted 'deb
replaced-url
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2545[18:49:03] <nicknight> I cant see propoerly lines are not in
same line
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2547[18:49:32] <nicknight> ok LtL
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2549[18:50:01] <turlutton> Hey guys, I have an USB drive
read-only, It seems I can't use Gparted or fdisk. Fsck says
"Magic number invalid in the super bloc when trying to open
/dev/sdb" (<-- translation from my language). I don't
care about the data, I just want to format it to be able to use it.
Oh, and it's supposed to be ntfs (fsck seems to test for ext2
btw).
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2551[18:50:39] <turlutton> If it was r/w, I would juste use dd,
but it's not.
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2557[18:52:18] <petn-randall> nicknight: It's not that hard,
everything in quotes goes on a single line.
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2559[18:52:36] <nicknight> petn-randall: I figured it out
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2560[18:52:51] <nicknight> in my client each lines splited to 3
lines
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2561[18:53:08] <nicknight> so forst I manually compared with
existing host file
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2562[18:53:18] <nicknight> thats how I missed
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2566[18:54:29] <turlutton>
replaced-url
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2567[18:54:40] <Delf> This is suggesting that there's some
issues with the hardware
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2571[18:56:09] <towo`> turlutton, you propably will not have a
ntfs filesystem on a device
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2572[18:56:19] <towo`> turlutton, normaly there are partitions
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2574[18:56:52] <turlutton> Oh, yes. Should I try ntfsdsk on
/dev/sdb1 then
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2576[18:56:54] <hexhaxtron> somiaj, hi! I had connection but I
don't have it now... What should I do?
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2577[18:56:55] <Delf> as in sda1
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2586[18:57:33] <Delf> But not sda as that's probably your
current os drive :P
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2588[18:57:45] <towo`> turlutton, and for usb-sticks, they are in
99% faulty, if they are write protected
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2589[18:58:17] <turlutton> They can't acces sdb1
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2592[18:58:28] <somiaj> hexhaxtron: you will have to see what is
different, check routes, 'ip r' and ipaddres info. It
could also be your router/network causing the problem and not the
debian box.
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2593[18:58:47] <hexhaxtron> somiaj, I have it now again... but it
seems it's coming and going...
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2595[18:58:50] <turlutton> Should I try fixing it with windows
(ntfs proprietary thing) or just throw that usb to garbage?
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2598[18:59:19] <towo`> turlutton, the latter
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2600[19:00:34] <turlutton> towo`: that's a shame, thanks for
helping guys.
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2601[19:00:45] <nicknight> It is working thanks all
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2602[19:01:03] <LtL> nicknight: cheers
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2603[19:01:07] <somiaj> Delf: either hardware, or there is some
switch to turn it on/off.
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2605[19:01:18] <somiaj> might be on the machine, might be in the
bios/firmware.
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2607[19:01:55] <Delf> Would that switch make it not appear in
Xorg.0.log too?
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2612[19:02:34] <somiaj> Unsure, I have seen hardware you can
completly disable in the biso making it not visable to the os.
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2615[19:02:51] <somiaj> Delf: but it could just be bad hardware.
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2617[19:03:22] <nicknight> LtL: :)
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2620[19:04:11] <LtL> nicknight: added note, you can append
'contrib non-free' to each line. no quotes
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2622[19:04:18] <Delf> Looked in the bios. Yes, could be bad
hardware… or someone re-assembled it not proper. There are
some screws missing.
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2624[19:04:46] <nicknight> LtL: whatit will do?
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2625[19:05:25] <Delf> Going to disassemble it soon and see what I
can find :)
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2626[19:05:32] <LtL> nicknight: contributed packages and non DFSG
software. = more packages
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2631[19:06:28] <nicknight> LtL: okay and debian didn't add
them on default leaving it is upto user ? thiat is good
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2632[19:06:33] <LtL> nicknight: perfectly safe, i've done it
for years, unless you have ethical reasons to avoid non-free
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2634[19:07:03] <LtL> nicknight: debian doesn't add them,
most users do add them.
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2635[19:07:18] <nicknight> LtL: ok Thanks for the info I am
adding them
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2636[19:07:23] <somiaj> Delf: well hopefully it is just a loose
wire.
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2637[19:07:44] <LtL> nicknight: remember to apt update &&
apt upgrade
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2638[19:07:49] <somiaj> nicknight: users who accept any terms of
the non-free licenses that come with the software included in them.
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2647[19:09:17] <hexhaxtron> somiaj, my Internet connection is
coming and going...
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2649[19:09:59] <someguy130850> Hey there. How large, at minimum,
should a EFI partition be for a single OS machine?
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2653[19:10:31] <user893457892> found a bug:
software-properties-gtk will freeze upon updating sources if you
input malformed/invalid source lines to the "other
software" tab
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2654[19:10:42] <someguy130850> I realized on trying ot install
Stretch I neglected to make one...
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2656[19:10:55] <user893457892> no way to stop it other than to
kill software-properties-gtk then fix sources.list thru command line
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2659[19:11:29] <somiaj> someguy130850: I'm using 16M on
mine. 100M should be more than fine, though you can go smaller if
you like it seems.
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2661[19:12:00] <someguy130850> brb in s ec, something wrong.
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2663[19:12:06] <user893457892> expected behavior: it detects the
malformed/invalid source line and refuses to run apt-get update
until you fix it
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2665[19:12:25] <somiaj> user893457892: have you checked the BTS
for such a bug, if not you should report it there.
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2670[19:13:13] <user893457892> will do later today :)
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2675[19:15:25] <someguy130850> I'm back. Sorry about that.
The webclient I was trying to use decided to max-out CPU-use for
some reason.
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2676[19:15:48] <someguy130850> Anyway, how large should I make an
EFI partition for Debian to use it?
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2678[19:16:26] <somiaj> someguy130850: I'm using 16M on
mine. 100M should be more than fine, though you can go smaller if
you like it seems.
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2681[19:16:56] <someguy130850> somiaj: That little would work?
Ah, that's nice.
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2684[19:17:42] <somiaj> It just needs to store the boot
information for each os you have. So yea not much, but must be fat16
I belive.
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2697[19:21:50] <someguy130850> Ah, the installer warned me my
arch needs at least 35MB. Sorry for bothering you unnecessarily I
guess.
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2707[19:24:03] <jelly> someguy130850: windows defaults to making
a 100MB one and it usually does not think there will be any other
OSes
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2710[19:24:40] <someguy130850> jelly: Yeah, I read as much as I
wandered around looking to understand what step I'd missed in
the install.
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2712[19:25:04] <someguy130850> My last install was in BIOS mode
because I couldn't be bothered back then.
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2713[19:25:28] <jelly> right, I honestly have no idea what
happens when you install just Debian on an uefi-only system
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2715[19:25:51] <someguy130850> It had support for BIOS boot, so
it worked fine.
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2719[19:26:08] <someguy130850> Well, after I enabled backwards
compatibility in the menu.
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2720[19:26:09] <jelly> that's just fine for linux
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2722[19:26:22] <someguy130850> It'd probably nuke any
Windows installs.
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2723[19:26:32] <jelly> dual- or triple- booting is easier with
uefi
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2727[19:27:00] <someguy130850> I also hear it boots faster?
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2728[19:27:10] <tw> Debian works fine with uefi only (CSM
disabled) if you disable secure boot.
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2729[19:27:54] <someguy130850> I've been wondering about
that. Wouldn't it be possibl
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2733[19:28:08] <someguy130850> for a user to trust the debian key
manually or some such for SB?
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2735[19:30:14] <tw> You mean add another KEK to secure boot, yes,
but too complex for most people.
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2738[19:30:43] <someguy130850> Ah, that's a shame. Nice to
know I wasn't misunderstanding something in that it's
feasible though.
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2741[19:31:34] <tw> Mmmm, wrong key name, but same problem.
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2785[19:47:02] <someguy130850> It boots fine. One of these days
I'll fix the Secure Boot side.
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2790[19:49:26] <ix> any idea why I'm still running Debian
9.1 even after updating the system?
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2799[19:51:31] <someguy130850> Did you dist-upgrade too?
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2802[19:52:08] <ix> someguy130850, yes, of course
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2804[19:52:27] <RoyK> isn't 9.1 the latest stretch?
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2806[19:52:44] <ix> I think 9.2 is the latest
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2807[19:52:46] <someguy130850> I'm not going to be of any
help then. May be your mirrors aren't upt to date yet?
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2811[19:53:10] <RoyK> seems I'm wrong, yes
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2814[19:53:29] <jelly> ,v base-files --release stretch
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2815[19:53:30] <judd> Package: base-files on amd64 -- stretch:
9.9+deb9u1
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2823[19:54:54] <jelly> someguy130850: if you have that version of
base-files, and correct repos, you're probably already on 9.2.
Someone just forgot to update the number in /etc/debian_version
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2826[19:55:27] <annadane> if it's says 0, 0, 0, 0 for
packages it should all be fine
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2827[19:55:35] <annadane> s/it's/it
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2829[19:55:47] <jelly> !stretch sources.list
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2830[19:55:47] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
"Stretch" has three lines: "deb
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2840[19:57:41] <ix> I don't have stretch-updates, I
don't think I need them, do I?
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2842[19:58:54] <jelly> if you don't know, you probably do
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2843[19:58:58] <jelly> !stable-updates
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2844[19:58:58] <dpkg> stretch-updates is probably a suite
providing updates to some packages (from <proposed-updates>)
prior to a <point release>. All packages from stretch-updates
will be included in point releases.
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2845[19:58:58] <ix> I only have the stable and security repos
enabled, but it should be enough
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2848[19:59:33] <annadane> if you give us your sources list to
paste.debian.net we can tell you if it's correct or not
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2851[20:00:24] <ix> they should be fine:
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2854[20:01:49] <annadane> you should add deb
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2856[20:02:25] <annadane> or stable-updates but the thing with
stable is you should use stretch instead so you don't get nasty
surprises when buster becomes the new stable
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2857[20:02:41] <jelly> ix: you just get some updates later, and
they're functionality fixes not security fixes
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2858[20:02:47] <jelly> without it
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2868[20:04:49] <jelly> but in some cases new functionality can
also improve security, like in an antivirus. A newer upstream clamav
version usually ends up in stable-updates
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2869[20:06:04] <jelly> if Debian packaged firefox release branch
for stable, it would be a good candidate for stable-updates as well,
with its fast release cycle
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2872[20:06:24] <ix> adding stretch-updates made no difference,
which I expected, someone probably forgot to change the
debian_version file
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2879[20:08:13] <jelly> ix:
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2881[20:08:37] <thedogcatcher> Looking for an up-to-date way to
set up a pxe server to install ESXi 6.5. Everything I'm reading
seems outdated or broken, any suggestions?
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2888[20:09:28] <jelly> ix: says it's already in
stable-updates, so wait for mirrors to catch up
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2889[20:10:06] <annadane> is 13:47 in UTC time?
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2890[20:10:18] <annadane> er, 13:17
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2891[20:10:25] <jelly> annadane: date --utc
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2892[20:10:37] <jelly> Thu Oct 12 18:10:28 UTC 2017
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2893[20:10:53] <annadane> i notice it says +1:00
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2895[20:11:13] <annadane> jelly, right, but i mean the time on
the email on the tracker
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2897[20:11:24] <annadane> so i assume that means UTC +1
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2898[20:11:36] <jelly> yeah, that's rfc822 format
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2899[20:11:48] <jelly> well, I guess it's rfc5322 now.
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2902[20:12:24] <ix> ok, thanks for the info, jelly :-)
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2903[20:12:25] <jelly> annadane: you can also: date -d 'Sat,
07 Oct 2017 13:17:53 +0100'
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2905[20:13:08] <jelly> and even append --utc to that!
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2906[20:13:45] <annadane> oh, i didn't even notice it was
oct 7, i thought it was from today
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2908[20:14:08] <annadane> i are gud at reeding
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2949[20:27:34] <dmzz> Hi all
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2950[20:27:50] <dmzz> I try to install fpm
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2951[20:27:52] <dmzz> php-fpm
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2952[20:27:55] <dmzz> for php5.6
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2953[20:28:03] <dmzz> firstable I'd like to configure it
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2954[20:28:16] <tdn> Does the kernel packages in recent 9.2
update cause dkms modules to fail? I get this error upgrading linux
images packages:
replaced-url
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2957[20:28:49] <tdn> Log contains this:
replaced-url
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2961[20:29:48] <towo`> tdn, install a recent version of vbox
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2964[20:30:14] <tdn> towo`, but it is not included in debian
anymore, right?
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2965[20:30:15] <towo`> 4.3.36 is stone old and EOL
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2966[20:30:24] <towo`> tdn, it is, in backports
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2967[20:30:30] <tdn> towo`, this is probably what I got from
debian 8
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2969[20:30:43] <tdn> Can I get a vbox without binary blobs?
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2970[20:31:00] <towo`> there is no binary blob in vbox
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2972[20:31:08] <towo`> vbox is opensource
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2973[20:31:31] <tdn> OK
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2974[20:31:39] <towo`> the only blob is the extention pack, which
you have not to installed if you donÄt want it
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2976[20:31:43] <tdn> What backports source to add in order to
only get vbox?
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2977[20:31:51] <towo`> !bpo
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2978[20:31:51] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable
(<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
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2979[20:31:56] <tdn> Thanks
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2980[20:32:08] <towo`> and you need contrib too#
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2981[20:32:22] <towo`> you you use the deb direct from oracle
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2983[20:32:39] <jim> isn't the following a bug? <judd>
Search for bin/make in stretch/amd64: make: usr/bin/make;
make-guile: usr/bin/make
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2992[20:37:11] <tdn> towo`, I did just that and it says:
virtualbox is already the newest version (4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1).
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2997[20:39:10] <tdn> Oh. Forgot contrib
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2998[20:39:12] <towo`> tdn, apt install virtualbox-qt -t
stretch-backports
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2999[20:39:17] <tdn> Wow it needs a lot of packages
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3000[20:39:36] <tdn> towo`, do I then have to reinstall the
kernel-image-amd64 packages?
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3001[20:39:46] <towo`> tdn, no, why you should?
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3002[20:39:55] <tdn> towo`, because it failed during install?
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3003[20:40:12] <towo`> tdn, no it was not failing!+
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3004[20:40:21] <tdn> Something was :)
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3005[20:40:23] <towo`> tdn, read such output carefully
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3006[20:40:36] <towo`> the build of the vbox kernel modules was
failing
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3007[20:40:37] <tdn> The DKMS compilation failed.
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3010[20:40:46] <tdn> I have no idea if that leaves the remaining
kernel intact
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3015[20:41:49] <towo`> tdn, the nev vbox version, needs also new
version of virtualbox-kernel-dkms
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3016[20:42:07] <towo`> and on install time, dkms will build the
modules
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3017[20:42:11] <tdn> OK
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3025[20:46:43] <tdn> On another host I got this:
replaced-url
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3026[20:46:58] <tdn> W: initramfs-tools configuration sets
RESUME=UUID=261cd883-420f-4aac-9adc-e492d50011ef
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3027[20:47:01] <tdn> W: but no matching swap device is available.
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3028[20:47:18] <tdn> When upgrading linux-image-amd64
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3029[20:47:28] <tdn> What does this mean? Is it safe to reboot?
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3030[20:47:56] <towo`> remove that resume entrie fron the initrd
conf
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3034[20:48:11] <jelly> tdn: it means resume from hibernate may
not work properly
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3035[20:48:22] <tdn> No idea why resume is in there. It is a
server.
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3036[20:48:26] <tdn> No need for resume.
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3037[20:48:41] <jelly> tdn: grep -R RESUME /etc/initramfs-tools
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3039[20:49:00] <tdn> jelly, empty
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3040[20:49:04] <tdn> jelly, no output from grep
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3041[20:49:12] <jelly> huh
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3042[20:49:22] <jelly> did you do it as root
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3044[20:49:49] <Rembo> hello, i'm getting this error:
replaced-url
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3045[20:50:10] <tdn> jelly, as root, yes
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3047[20:50:33] <tdn> SORRY! Wrong host. I am getting tired
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3048[20:50:37] <tdn> jelly,
/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume:RESUME=UUID=261cd883-420f-4aac-9adc-e492d50011ef
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3049[20:51:06] <tdn> jelly, only line in there. Should I just
truncate the file?
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3050[20:51:43] <jelly> I'd do that, and rebuild any
initramfs
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3051[20:52:17] <tdn> jelly, then update-grub?
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3052[20:52:23] <tdn> mkinitramfs?
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3053[20:53:26] <jelly> update-initramfs (needs some other
options)
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3054[20:53:30] <towo`> update-initramfs -u -k all
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3055[20:53:38] <jelly> right
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3058[20:54:04] <tdn> Thanks
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3059[20:54:07] <tdn> Then reboot?
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3061[20:54:22] <jelly> Rembo: verify you don't have any
remaining apache processes, or other http server, keeping port *:80
bound
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3062[20:54:38] <jelly> tdn: if you want to make sure it works,
yeah
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3066[20:55:47] <jelly> Rembo: use ss or netstat, perhaps like:
netstat -tupan| grep LISTEN | grep :80
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3069[20:57:01] <tdn> update-initramfs gave this output:
replaced-url
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3070[20:57:25] <jelly> sigh.
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3072[20:57:48] <jelly> tdn: and if you remove the file
completely?
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3074[20:58:03] <tdn> jelly, no, just remove the line in it. So
now an empty file.
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3076[20:58:10] <tdn> should I rm it instead?
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3077[20:58:44] <jelly> yes, and see what happens
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3078[20:59:57] <tdn> jelly, same, I think:
replaced-url
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3079[21:00:13] <tdn> Should I leave the file containing RESUME= ?
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3081[21:00:52] <tdn> But why is resume in there in the first
place+
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3082[21:00:53] <tdn> ?
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3083[21:01:19] <jelly> I guess that would be the next step, an
empty value for RESUME=
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3086[21:02:08] <jelly> probably because you have a fixed block
device for swap and initramfs-tools support using that for resume
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3090[21:03:22] <jelly> it don't hurt noone, the resume code
in initrd image would not find a hibernation signature and would
boot normally every time
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3092[21:03:45] <tdn> jelly,
replaced-url
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3093[21:03:52] <jelly> no idea then :-)
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3098[21:05:39] <tdn> jelly, should I restore the file altogether
containing an actual value for RESUME and then updateinitramfs
again?
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3099[21:05:51] <jelly> tdn: I guess next step is reading the
code? /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/resume
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3103[21:06:11] <tdn> jelly, I think I am in over my head
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3104[21:06:13] <jelly> if [ "$RESUME" = none ]; then
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3105[21:06:13] <jelly> exit 0
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3106[21:06:13] <jelly> fi
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3107[21:06:38] <tdn> So I add RESUME=none ?
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3108[21:06:58] <jelly> as the single line in that file
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3110[21:07:02] <tdn> OK
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3111[21:07:48] <tdn> jelly, I think that worked:
replaced-url
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3112[21:07:51] <simpledat> How do I install FileZilla Client for
Linux?
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3113[21:08:41] <tdn> jelly, does that look right? Should I reboot
now?
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3114[21:08:49] <jelly> tdn: that's nominal yes
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3116[21:08:54] <tdn> jelly, thanks
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3117[21:09:17] <jelly> simpledat: apt-get install filezilla
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3118[21:09:29] <jelly> as root
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3121[21:10:12] <simpledat> jelly: Should I then run filezilla as
normal user?
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3128[21:11:56] <jelly> simpledat: yes, just like almost all the
apps.
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3129[21:12:11] <simpledat> jelly: Ok thank you
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3149[21:24:04] <greycat> So, all the stretch 9.2 updates
don't come with an update to base-files (/etc/debian_version)
unless you are also using stretch-updates. Izzat a bug?
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3165[21:29:45] <jelly> greycat: known and will be fixed, see
tracker.debian.org/base-files
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3166[21:29:49] <greycat> cool
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3168[21:30:28] <jelly> my mirror doesn't have it even in
stable-updates yet
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3172[21:31:05] <alhadi> can i upgrade my Debian 8 Jessie without
reinstall?
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3173[21:31:15] <mundosegundo> yes alhadi
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3174[21:31:21] <alhadi> i have a game server
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3175[21:31:28] <alhadi> will it have any issue?
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3176[21:31:31] <alhadi> mysq 5.7
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3177[21:31:37] <alhadi> ogp installed open game panel
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3178[21:31:37] <jelly> greycat: would be funny if it was fixed
with the next point release
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3179[21:31:41] <mundosegundo> just change the repos for debian 9
and upgrade; dist upgrade etc..
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3180[21:31:50] <annadane> alhadi,
replaced-url
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3181[21:31:52] <mundosegundo> alhadi, honestly i dont know
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3182[21:31:55] <jelly> mundosegundo: it's almost never JUST
that
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3184[21:32:02] <muse> lol. no one can say, alhadi.
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3185[21:32:05] <greycat> !tell alhadi about jessie->stretch
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3186[21:32:15] <mundosegundo> y jelly ?
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3187[21:32:30] <alhadi> i mean upgrade gives more problems
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3188[21:32:32] <jelly> mundosegundo: release notes would be a lot
shorter then
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3189[21:32:35] <alhadi> the software compability
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3190[21:32:37] <greycat> For upgrade issues, see
replaced-url
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3193[21:32:47] <alhadi> mysql 5.7
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3194[21:32:50] <alhadi> php5.5
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3195[21:32:51] <greycat> err, sorry, that should be
replaced-url
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3196[21:33:01] <mundosegundo> doesnt the apt handles all the
chnages?
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3197[21:33:05] <jelly> alhadi: read the release notes. There is
no php 5 any more.
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3198[21:33:12] <alhadi> yes
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3200[21:33:17] <alhadi> my sotware needs php5
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3201[21:33:23] <alhadi> it wont work in new
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3202[21:33:24] <alhadi> php7
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3203[21:33:38] <jelly> alhadi: php is at 7.0 in Debian 9. If you
need 5.x do not go stretch
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3204[21:33:46] <alhadi> thats the reason
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3205[21:33:53] <alhadi> becuz the panel i use its ogp 5.5
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3206[21:34:02] <alhadi> if put 7 it send me bunch of erors
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3207[21:34:12] <alhadi> the author says php5 is what will work
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3208[21:34:19] <alhadi> beyond it wont work for the sowtare
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3209[21:34:21] <jelly> mundosegundo: ^^ this, and other known
gotchas get documented in the release notes
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3212[21:34:42] <mundosegundo> oh ok, but the general system will
right jelly ?
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3213[21:35:14] <jelly> mundosegundo: no. You absolutely want to
read the release notes.
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3217[21:35:39] <mundosegundo> ok
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3221[21:35:52] <jelly> if you don't, we'll laugh at you
when you come with an issue that could have been avoided
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3223[21:36:04] <jelly> probably.
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3224[21:37:02] <jelly> alhadi: well the author and you have time
until, maybe, 2020 to make it work
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3227[21:37:31] <jelly> that's when jessie LTS support ends.
php5 security support will be limited in LTS anyway.
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3228[21:37:33] <mundosegundo> ok, then here is one jelly, my
laptop starts getting really slow when it its low battery like 10%+-
and if i tell him to shutdown or sometimes i dont even have to do
that, the system frezes and i have to force the turn off with the
power button
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3229[21:37:49] <mundosegundo> its a fresh debian 9 with gnome,
not an upgrade from 8
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3233[21:38:57] <shellclear> mundosegundo: Why don't run
docker containers?
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3235[21:39:15] <jelly> mundosegundo: seeing as it a laptop, and
you're on gnome, I don't have a lot to offer with that
issue
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3236[21:39:36] <mundosegundo> honestly i dont know what that does
shellclear
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3237[21:39:48] <mundosegundo> jelly, ok
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3238[21:39:58] <jelly> shellclear: are you a bot?
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3239[21:40:13] <shellclear> mundosegundo: sorry, my answer is to
alhadi ...
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3240[21:40:24] <mundosegundo> oh ok
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3242[21:41:07] <shellclear> jelly: no way...
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3243[21:41:33] <jelly> alright
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3246[21:42:12] <mundosegundo> wat about this one, on a desktop
now and with cinnamon installed, if i program a shutdown to xx:xx my
mb start to beep every x minutes, how can i turn this off?
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3249[21:43:40] <shellclear> mundosegundo:
replaced-url
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3250[21:44:06] <shellclear> this time is to you.
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3252[21:44:11] <shellclear> hahaha
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3254[21:44:24] <mundosegundo> thank you shellclear, but why only
on shutdown command?
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3256[21:44:30] <ewew> Hi. Did somebody had trouble running irc
proxy bip on debian 9 ?
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3260[21:45:25] <greycat> mundosegundo: are you running headless
or something? Are you not seeing a text message at the same time as
the beeps, on the console?
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3263[21:45:39] <annadane> ewew, it would help if you're more
detailed about your problem
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3265[21:46:03] <shellclear> mundo segundo: this is interesting,
would it be need investigate
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3266[21:46:14] <annadane> what about bip are you having trouble
with?
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3267[21:46:14] <shellclear> mundosegundo:
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3268[21:46:14] <mundosegundo> greycat, no, i cant tell usually
the term is on a window im not loocking at
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3269[21:46:25] <ewew> when running via normal start script it
fails to work. If i run it as root it works well.
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3270[21:46:36] * greycat tries to parse that response
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3271[21:46:37] <annadane> shellclear, you can probably use tab
completion. type the first few letters of someone's name and
press tab
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3274[21:47:15] <shellclear> annadane: yep, I know. I made a
mistake
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3277[21:47:54] <annadane> ewew, how does it "fail to
work". do you have any output from the terminal?
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3278[21:47:59] <annadane> paste.debian.net
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3279[21:48:28] <ewew> its not listed in output from ps -Af
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3293[22:00:24] <AllyG> Hi. I'm installing a debootstrap
chroot, arch=arm, onto my desktop. AFter I exec the debootstrap, and
cd in the the $chroot, I check & there's *no*
$chroot/bin/apt*, or $chroot/debootstrap/debootstrap.
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3295[22:00:55] <AllyG> I've tried
include=...,apt,debootstrap,...
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3296[22:01:15] <AllyG> and I *DO* the the .deb's DL'd.
they're just not apparently unpacked/installed
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3297[22:01:26] <AllyG> Do I have to do those manually somehow?
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3300[22:04:50] <unkmar> I am thankful to all that finally Debian
Live working.
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3304[22:05:50] <hexnewbie> AllyG: debootstrap chroots into the
target directory to execute scripts, so if the host is not arm,
you'd need qemu user emulation like so -
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3306[22:06:19] <hexnewbie> AllyG: Though if that's the case
I would be surprised at the lack of errors (though debootstrap is a
weirdo)
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3309[22:09:35] <AllyG> hexnewbie: I've got qemu installed.
debootstrap populates the chroot with lots of dirs/files.
$chroot/bin is *full* of stuff. but 'usr/bin/apt-get',
'usr/bin/dpkg', 'debootstrap/deboostrap' are
missing.
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3314[22:13:21] <AllyG> hexnewbie: e.g., here's what bins are
installed by the debootstrap step:
replaced-url
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3319[22:16:40] <hexnewbie> AllyG: egrep 'Package: apt$'
"$chroot"/var/lib/dpkg/status -A 2
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3321[22:17:06] <Fjorgynn> hej
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3333[22:21:09] <Eduard_Munteanu> AllyG, you need the static build
of ARM-targeted QEMU and it has to be installed in the chroot
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3335[22:21:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> So you likely need to do a
2-stage debootstrap.
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3336[22:22:10] <AllyG> k. brb
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3346[22:24:42] <b0xii> ping 9192.1.668.1.1
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3348[22:24:59] <greycat> it's like a Hollywood movie about
hacking
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3360[22:29:43] <rachelfish> hi #debian
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3361[22:30:08] <rachelfish> Does anybody know if there's a
reason why Atom (the text editor) isn't available in the debian
repos?
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3366[22:33:13] <awal1> check PTS
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3372[22:34:42] <awal1> if it was in the past :P
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3373[22:35:00] <awal1> seems no
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3374[22:35:12] <tw> I'd guess the dependency on node.js is a
bit of a damper.
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3385[22:37:56] <jim> so, sway and gnome are the envs that work
well with wayland, and kde, not so much... what are the package
names for each?
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3387[22:38:37] <jim> also, is it just that wayland is a simpler
replacement for x and doesn't add new features?
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