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8 [00:04:23] <vlt> Hello. How can I tell update-initramfs NOT
to resume from any device?
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25 [00:20:44] <karlpinc> kirillkh: This may help:
replaced-url
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33 [00:26:27] <karlpinc> Datz: If you're trying to upgrade
debian the first step is to read the release notes and follow them.
They also contain suggestions about what to do to recover if things
go wrong. Past that, you can ask in #debian.
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36 [00:27:08] <Datz> karlpinc: thanks, I've partiall
resolved the issues
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54 [00:46:43] <kirillkh> karlpinc: thanks
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107 [01:27:58] <un214> I somehow have a really messed-up firefox
icon
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110 [01:28:30] <un214> The command is /usr/local/bin/firefox
which works when executed in a terminal but the menu item won't
work
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112 [01:29:28] <friendofafriend> un214: Right-click on it and
select "Properties"?
113 [01:29:48] <un214> no propties do you mean edit application?
114 [01:32:27] <un214> I deleted it and recreated it and the new
one worked
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148 [01:48:25] <mutantturkey> is there a server package for
popularity contest
149 [01:48:46] <mutantturkey> as in i have a bunch of machines
and i would love to have a real time look at what packages they have
installed, a post installation hook or cron job that could report
back to a central server in my network would be great
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152 [01:49:06] <mutantturkey> and or - what's a good tool
that lets you make sure packages are queryable over a cluster of
machines
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155 [01:49:34] <friendofafriend> mutantturkey: I don't
really understand what you're saying. You'd just like to
see the packages installed on a given system?
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159 [01:51:27] <friendofafriend> Instead of pushing that
information to a server, I'd probably pull it with: ssh
user@host "dpkg-query -l" > ./host.packages
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165 [01:54:18] <pyex> i will format to my device via gparted. Is
it quick format?
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169 [01:56:24] <mutantturkey> friendofafriend: having it
centralized would be helpful at this size
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175 [01:58:53] <friendofafriend> mutantturkey: Right, so I'd
write a script that just executes that ssh command for each host.
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177 [01:59:18] <friendofafriend> That way, you can run it by cron
job on your central server, and you don't have to worry about
some process running on each host.
178 [01:59:31] <friendofafriend> That is to say, one script,
instead of dozens? Hundreds?
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180 [02:00:27] <mutantturkey> could do the flip side and PUSH via
a cron job from each server
181 [02:00:31] <mutantturkey> kind of like that idea better.
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212 [02:13:04] <maxrazer> #debian-offtopic
213 [02:13:29] <dvs> *poof*
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221 [02:19:40] <friendofafriend> mutantturkey: Cool, then run
"dpkg-query -l", redirect to a file, and ssh by public
keys.
222 [02:20:13] <friendofafriend> It only gets hairy if that cron
job doesn't kick off. If you pull the list from a central
point, you'll at least know it failed or the system is offline.
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352 [04:15:50] <rawf> I'm installing debian (text mode). The
background is red instead of blue, is there some reason for this? I
thought it was blue last time I installed debian (same image)
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360 [04:22:08] <_hejux> very strange
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362 [04:22:24] <_hejux> i fount that systemctl list-unit-files |
grep sshd shows:
363 [04:22:31] <_hejux> sshd.service disabled
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365 [04:22:55] <_hejux> but actually sshd was running, i'm
also able to ssh into the server
366 [04:23:35] <_hejux> while "systemctl list-unit-files |
grep enabled" shows nothing
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368 [04:23:59] <_hejux> this is not what it was before, i
don't know what went wrong.
369 [04:24:01] <Abdullah> there is a difference between units and
services
370 [04:24:21] <whislock> .service files are services.
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372 [04:24:28] <whislock> _hejux: Did you stop sshd, not just
disable it?
373 [04:24:52] <whislock> Abdullah: And all systemd
"services" are called units.
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375 [04:25:30] <whislock> Not all units are services. All
services are units.
376 [04:25:52] <Abdullah> I thougt they mentioned timers
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378 [04:26:07] <whislock> Timers are also units.
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380 [04:26:16] <whislock>
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381 [04:26:26] <_hejux> i stopped nothing, i disabled nothing. i
have a lot of services running, i usually check with "|grep
enabled" to see what's enabled
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384 [04:26:34] <Abdullah> but timers are like cron jobs
385 [04:26:35] <_hejux> but now , i can't see nothing.
386 [04:26:41] <whislock> Abdullah: systemd timers are units.
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389 [04:26:46] <_hejux> i have another server, which shows
correct.
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391 [04:26:57] <whislock> _hejux: ps -ef | grep sshd
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393 [04:27:31] <_hejux> whislock: yes, it is there.
394 [04:28:01] <whislock> _hejux: systemctl status sshd
395 [04:28:08] <whislock> _hejux: Second line, starts with
Loaded.
396 [04:28:14] <_hejux> i am able to login into ssh server. the
thing is, systemctl shows sshd is disabled. although function well.
397 [04:28:22] <whislock> _hejux: What does it say for vendor
preset?
398 [04:28:56] <_hejux> Loaded: loaded
(/etc/systemd/system/sshd.service; disabled; vendor preset: enabled)
399 [04:29:08] <_hejux> Active: inactive (dead)
400 [04:29:31] <whislock> Then sshd got launched somehow, and
that unit was disabled manually.
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405 [04:30:06] <_hejux> systemctl list-unit-files | grep -E
"enabled|indirect"
406 [04:30:22] <_hejux> this is what i run to check enabled
services
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408 [04:30:36] <_hejux> but now the result is empty
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411 [04:30:58] <_hejux> weird
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413 [04:32:11] <_hejux> i'm running debian 9.6
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415 [04:32:54] <_hejux> i have another archlinux server, the
"grep" results shows as what i expected.
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418 [04:34:09] <_hejux> on archlinux server, same grep command,
shows:
419 [04:34:11] <_hejux> Loaded: loaded
(/usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service; enabled; vendor preset:
disabled)
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421 [04:34:45] <_hejux> as well as Main PID
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423 [04:35:17] <whislock> Yes, Arch doesn't automatically
enable systemd units.
424 [04:35:23] <whislock> Debian, package depending, does.
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428 [04:36:28] <_hejux> whislock: i was able to get some results
on this Debian server with systemctl list-unit-files | grep -E
"enabled|indirect"
429 [04:36:37] <_hejux> but right now, i got nothing
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435 [04:40:29] <Abdullah> someone mention me please so I could
debug a script
436 [04:40:38] <Sveta> A Abdullah B
437 [04:40:48] <Abdullah> Thanks Sveta
438 [04:40:53] <Abdullah> its working
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440 [04:41:57] <Sveta> No worries.
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442 [04:42:29] <_hejux> sorry, i was disconnected
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452 [04:49:58] <Pendrag0n_away> I am trying to do something very
low level. Is there a way to "background" bash itself
(and/or thusly any programs ran by or running within) within a
terminal window, then bring it back to the foreground on demand?
453 [04:50:18] <jmcnaught> _hejux: do you have ssh.socket
enabled?
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458 [04:56:30] <_hejux> jmcnaught: no.
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461 [04:57:29] <_hejux> jmcnaught: it is not just sshd.service.
462 [04:57:51] <_hejux> i can't see all enabled services,
but they are acually enabled
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466 [04:59:27] <jmcnaught> _hejux: if you run "systemctl
list-unit-files" without piping to grep, all your services say
disabled?
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468 [04:59:59] <_hejux> jmcnaught: that's right.
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486 [05:06:39] <_hejux> jmcnaught: finally, i fount the reason.
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488 [05:07:59] <_hejux> i did something stupid, usually i use
rsync to backup the /etc on debian server to my local pc. i
reinstalled debian sometime ago, and i rsync back the backup etc to
debian /etc.
489 [05:08:07] <_hejux> not that's the problem.
490 [05:08:12] <_hejux> now*
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492 [05:08:48] <_hejux> the rysnc back made the symblink gone,
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496 [05:10:21] <_hejux> the problem is i used "rsync
-L"
497 [05:10:31] <_hejux> i should use rsync -l
498 [05:10:45] <jmcnaught> _hejux: check out the etckeeper
package, it uses git (by default, can use others) to store a version
history of /etc that you can clone/branch etc
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529 [05:28:08] <Abdullah> setting up my first website without
knowing html lol just realized linux ../ also working there ;-)
530 [05:28:57] <Abdullah>
replaced-url
531 [05:29:14] <Abdullah> some suggestions if there is pro ;-)
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545 [05:35:19] <HeXiLeD> which package may have the module named
websocket
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560 [05:41:03] <Pendrag0n_away> HeXiLed network maybe?
561 [05:41:14] <Pendrag0n_away> net something, I can't
remember
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593 [06:03:11] <cryptodan_mobile> HeXiLeD: apt-cache search
websocket
594 [06:04:10] <HeXiLeD> yup . got it.
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653 [06:49:47] <CrazyTux> are debian based distros as reliable
and stable as debian?
654 [06:50:28] <Sveta> #debian doesn't know, sorry
655 [06:50:46] <Sveta> its scope is purposefully limited to
debian itself only
656 [06:51:10] <Sveta> although debian blends are ok
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661 [06:56:06] <nkuttler> hrm, is the installer able to output to
a usb-c display?
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675 [07:04:09] <CrazyTux> Sveta, which country are you from?
676 [07:05:10] <Sveta> .au
677 [07:05:17] <CrazyTux> ok. If I need to install Debian stable
for a newbie and a casual end user, which DE would you recommend?
678 [07:05:33] <CrazyTux> for home and office use.
679 [07:05:43] <Sveta> name 3-4 apps which you use the most
680 [07:05:47] <CrazyTux> the target user is a non technical end
user.
681 [07:06:41] <CrazyTux> Libre Office, pdf readers, editors,
audio and video players, firefox browser.
682 [07:06:51] <Sveta> ok, use xfce
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684 [07:07:12] <Sveta> it's about as easy vs configurable as
these things
685 [07:07:35] <CrazyTux> I also move files to and from my
android phone.
686 [07:07:49] <Sveta> xfce is ok for this, it uses thunar file
manager and it does this job well
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688 [07:08:08] <CrazyTux> ok
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690 [07:08:34] <Sveta> i'll head outdoors for another task
now
691 [07:08:36] <Sveta> but feel free to ask questions
692 [07:08:37] <Sveta> someone is around here to assist you
693 [07:08:59] <CrazyTux> how to customize debian stable so that
it is as easy to use as ubuntu?
694 [07:09:06] <CrazyTux> Sveta, ok
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697 [07:11:52] <SlidingHorn> CrazyTux: really, there's not
much that Ubuntu does *post install* that makes it any easier to use
than Debian
698 [07:12:17] <CrazyTux> ok
699 [07:12:49] <SlidingHorn> CrazyTux: Their "schtick,"
if you will, is that they include more extras - they're not as
strict about non-free firmware, for example.
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702 [07:13:24] <CrazyTux> SlidingHorn, ok. How to install those
extras on Debian?
703 [07:13:51] <CrazyTux> SlidingHorn, those non-free firmwares.
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705 [07:14:00] <SlidingHorn> CrazyTux: by adding the
"non-free" repository to your sources
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708 [07:14:14] <CrazyTux> SlidingHorn, ok
709 [07:14:30] <SlidingHorn> CrazyTux: Take a look here for some
more info:
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710 [07:14:57] <CrazyTux> SlidingHorn, can Debian be installed
for banks and financial institutions?
711 [07:15:08] <CrazyTux> or would you recommend some other
distro?
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714 [07:15:41] <CrazyTux> SlidingHorn, and is debian suitable for
home users? those who have been using windows 10.
715 [07:16:20] <SlidingHorn> CrazyTux: I'd be willing to bet
that there are already banks/financial institutions that run debian
716 [07:16:32] <CrazyTux> ok
717 [07:17:16] <phil_azing> Installing apcupsd on debian stretch
fails on apcupsd.postinst: 44: update-rc.d: not found. Can I get
help on it here?
718 [07:17:17] <SlidingHorn> CrazyTux: in terms of "noob
users" - that's usually more dependent on the DE and
software selection. If you set these machines up for people with the
software they need, they should be perfectly fine
719 [07:17:38] <CrazyTux> ok
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731 [07:25:58] <CrazyTux> I think xfce is the most preferred DE
in Linux.
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733 [07:26:17] <CrazyTux>
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736 [07:27:44] <kirillkh> CrazyTux: hmm, but KDE has the same
votes?
737 [07:28:07] <CrazyTux> kirillkh, yes. Which one would you
recommend?
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739 [07:28:51] <kirillkh> CrazyTux: I'm not a good person
for recommending, haven't been using linux desktop for ages
740 [07:29:22] <CrazyTux> kirillkh, but you are still on #debian.
741 [07:29:45] <CrazyTux> kirillkh, you mean you have not been
using any linux distros?
742 [07:29:48] <kirillkh> CrazyTux: does that make me an expert
on desktop? :)
743 [07:30:05] <kirillkh> CrazyTux: linux doesn't have to
run a desktop, you know... :)
744 [07:30:24] <kirillkh> I like the unixy part of it, not the
desktop part
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746 [07:30:53] <CrazyTux> ok
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749 [07:36:40] <whislock> CrazyTux: How many people use what
doesn't really have much relevance.
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752 [07:37:09] <CrazyTux> whislock, what?
753 [07:37:23] <CrazyTux> whislock, what doesn't have much
relevance?
754 [07:37:28] <whislock> CrazyTux: Why does it matter to you -
or anyone else - what's the most popular DE?
755 [07:38:08] <CrazyTux> whislock, I want a newbie friendly, out
of the box, easy to use DE.
756 [07:38:36] <whislock> CrazyTux: I get that. But that has no
correlation to popularity.
757 [07:38:50] <whislock> Try them. Figure out which one YOU like
best. And use that one.
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759 [07:39:14] <CrazyTux> whislock, what is your suggestion?
760 [07:39:21] <whislock> I just gave it to you. :)
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762 [07:41:04] <CrazyTux> whislock, what is that?
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765 [07:41:42] <whislock> 01:38 <whislock> Try them. Figure
out which one YOU like best. And use that one.
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858 [08:11:35] <pagetelegram> Evening: I am looking for a
terminal friendly FTP client with a nice shell. I'm too tired
to write one and wondering if some python thingy exists for use with
stuff like sftp or ncftp.
859 [08:12:53] <pagetelegram> Even if it's outside of
depositiory if someone can shoot me a link I can wget
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965 [09:17:14] <nehemiah> Does anybod know if cups stores the
installed printers in one specific file? I need to replicate a
chroot environment do different geo location but, as the printer
configuration is different per location, I need to exclude the
printers. So I'd like to know what it is exactly that I need to
exclude.
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1012 [09:44:46] <darxmurf> any idea of how to configure SSSD to
accept logins like DOMAIN\login instead of DOMAIN.NAME.TLD\login?
for OSX clients... it works well with windows machines
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1183 [11:38:38] <rant> no search for you!
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1188 [11:44:32] <jelly-home> darxmurf: mine just just
"login", which sssd backend are you using?
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1207 [11:57:45] <ghoulsblade> hi! i tried rtcwake to
suspend/switchoff+wake for weekly tasks, but it messes up the system
time. Is there a better way? if not details here:
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1224 [12:10:58] <darxmurf> jelly-home: it's linked to active
directory, nss and pam
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1228 [12:11:29] <darxmurf> I can eventually force the default
domain
1229 [12:11:39] <darxmurf> but in the end, the issue occurs only
with apple users...
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1231 [12:11:43] <darxmurf> as usual...
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1241 [12:15:51] <tlund> Does anyone know the status of
CVE-2018-16864 (systemd-journald) in Debian Jessie? Jessie is
supposed to have active security support AFAIK, but it is still
listed as vulnerable at
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1280 [12:41:22] <darxmurf> jelly-home: by the way if you have also
a way to filter the group list when I launch: id user@DOMAIN ^^
1281 [12:41:54] <darxmurf> it returns a lot of sub groups and all,
I never had that on other machines I configured without SSSD
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1321 [13:12:04] <iveqy> I'm trying to get debian to run
unattended-upgrades once every hour. I've setup
unattended-upgrades so that I can run it manually working correctly.
But it seems like my override.conf file for the systemd timer is not
working
1322 [13:12:17] <iveqy> how can I debug this?
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1324 [13:12:47] <iveqy> I'm a bit confused on how to see that
a timer has run in systemd and how to know which script/file the
timer is executing
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1336 [13:17:42] <jelly-home> iveqy: did you "systemctl
daemon-reload" making changes
1337 [13:17:52] <cda_> I am using nsswitch.conf with ldap. How can
I tell my local group to take precedence over LDAP group ? I keep
having error message 'cda is not in the sudoers file. This
incident will be reported.' , I have the following
nsswitch.conf :
replaced-url
1338 [13:17:54] <jelly-home> after*
1339 [13:18:13] <iveqy> jelly-home: no I rebooted the system
1340 [13:18:24] <jelly-home> iveqy: that's even better
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1342 [13:19:11] <jelly-home> cda_: hm you got files before ldap in
both group and gshadow lines, so it should work?
1343 [13:19:37] <jelly-home> cda_: what does "id -a cda"
say
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1345 [13:21:37] <iveqy> jelly-home: yeah, still not taking effect
:(
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1349 [13:23:59] <cda_>
replaced-url
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1351 [13:24:11] <cda_> I took here the explanation
1352 [13:24:26] <cda_> id -a cda
1353 [13:24:26] <cda_> uid=10008(cda) gid=10008
groups=27(sudo),10008
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1357 [13:27:15] <cda_> 0939860980
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1369 [13:30:52] <Abdullah> screen brightness doesn't work for
me.
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1384 [13:39:14] <jelly-home> cda_: si it looks like it's
member of group sudo. If you added that group membership recently,
you need to log off and back for it to be active
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1386 [13:40:18] <jelly-home> cda_: if that's the case
it's not a ldap-related cause at all
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1391 [13:46:41] <cda_> jelly-home, i restarted multiple times
1392 [13:46:52] <linuxconformer> hey guys, i'm having some
trouble running a script using cron
1393 [13:47:19] <linuxconformer> it works fine if i run it like
"bash script.sh", but putting that command in a crontab
doesn't seem to run it
1394 [13:47:26] <linuxconformer> any ideas what could be the
issue?
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1397 [13:50:55] <jelly-home> cda_: okay then, is sudo group
actually enabled in /etc/sudoers? Which debian release is this?
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1401 [13:52:30] <f0x2> hey, my dhcp seems to be broken
1402 [13:52:51] <f0x2> or something else that prevents me from
getting network connectivity
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1409 [13:59:35] <cda_> jelly-home, Linux dev-11 4.9.0-8-amd64 #1
SMP Debian 4.9.110-3+deb9u4 (2018-08-21) x86_64 GNU/Linux
1410 [14:00:23] <cda_> jelly-home,
replaced-url
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1430 [14:15:57] <ksk> hola guys. Im using the package/tool
"googler" to do a google search via terminal - has anyone
else experienced that it does not work without the
"--noua" switch (which disables sending its user-agent) --
would you think this qualifies for a bugreport? thanks!
1431 [14:16:41] <f0x2> /etc/syslog gives
1432 [14:17:04] <f0x2> Can't allocate interface wlease {#102
interfave.
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1441 [14:22:39] <ksk> linuxconformer: you are most probably
expecting the ENVIRONMENT of that skript to have some things it does
not if it runs as cron. add debug output etc. syslog will tell you,
if it ran your script, and cron will mail (to root) any output if
the scripts errorcode is != 0.
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1443 [14:23:10] <ksk> or, more precisly, cron will mail the user
running the script.
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1453 [14:26:31] <linuxconformer> ksk: i don't think the mail
is working for some reason
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1456 [14:27:48] <ksk> try it via "echo foo | mail -s
"testing" $username" - if that does not work locally,
you most probably made it this way, local mailing should work on a
base debian install.
1457 [14:28:43] <ksk> also, if you are new to cronjobs, you
*might* wanna skip them, and go for systemd timers.
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1459 [14:29:56] <linuxconformer> ksk: ok i'll give that a
shot (also, i get this output when i run my job ->
replaced-url
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1462 [14:32:26] <ksk> linuxconformer: your skript does not seem to
have permission to write to that file.
1463 [14:32:43] <ksk> you could have figured that out yourself,
no? ;)
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1469 [14:35:09] <linuxconformer> ksk: obviously :P i just
wasn't sure if its related to the issue of the script not
running
1470 [14:35:27] <linuxconformer> but even when i use sudo crontab
-e, the script still doesn't run
1471 [14:35:33] <linuxconformer> so it's evidently not
related
1472 [14:35:52] <ksk> nono. "sudo crontab -e" might not
do what you want :>
1473 [14:36:09] <linuxconformer> isn't it just like crontab
-e but with root permissions?
1474 [14:36:31] <ksk> if you configured the cronjob to run in a
user context, it will run in user context no matter as which user
you invoke crontab.
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1477 [14:36:45] <linuxconformer> ksk: ah
1478 [14:36:49] <ksk> (imho, never really invoked crontab myself)
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1484 [14:37:10] <ksk> I personally prefer /etc/cron.d/ over
crontab.
1485 [14:37:48] <ksk> linuxconformer: going down the cronjob debug
route with you: do a su to the user that shall run the cron, and try
running the script - does that work?
1486 [14:38:04] <ksk> if yes: environment issues, if no: most
likely permission issues
1487 [14:38:54] <jelly-home> linuxconformer: sudo crontab -e will
edit personal crontab of user "root"
1488 [14:39:12] <FinalX> also check logs, maybe your cron line is
invalid and crond is ignoring it
1489 [14:39:24] <FinalX> though in the case of that error you
pasted earlier, it ran just fine
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1492 [14:39:46] <FinalX> because if cron hadn't run, you
wouldn't have gotten that error in the mail
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1497 [14:40:42] <linuxconformer> regarding mail, i get
"-bash: mail: command not found" when i try to run that
command at [14:27]
1498 [14:41:08] <linuxconformer> guess that's why it
wasn't sending anything to me
1499 [14:41:43] <linuxconformer> FinalX: so it's an
environment issue?
1500 [14:41:54] <FinalX> yes
1501 [14:41:57] <FinalX> like ksk already explained
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1504 [14:42:29] <FinalX> in your script you're probably
directly referring to "mail" instead of
"/usr/bin/mail", and by default, cron doesn't have
any environment like PATH
1505 [14:42:44] <FinalX> so either set PATH or use the full path
to the executable in your script
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1507 [14:43:46] <FinalX> though tbh, cronjobs are kind of at their
expiration date by now
1508 [14:43:57] <FinalX> systemd jobs at intervals++
1509 [14:44:16] <FinalX> more robust and easier to check up on
1510 [14:44:35] <FinalX> + can also be limited to namespaces / run
with limited capabilities
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1512 [14:45:02] <ksk> yap, cronjobs are 1970 and come with all the
dependencies and drawbacks from this time ;)
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1516 [14:45:56] <FinalX> like not knowing if the job actually ran
without issues or that it didn't run at all (can't be
audited as there's no proof that it ran)
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1521 [14:46:38] <FinalX> if crond is stopped or crashed,
there's no real clear sign that they never ran (unless you keep
a good eye on logs that hardly anybody does)
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1526 [14:50:29] <linuxconformer> ok, i'll try systemd then,
thanks!
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1530 [14:51:25] <FinalX> linuxconformer:
replaced-url
1531 [14:51:39] <FinalX> things like that
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1534 [14:52:13] <FinalX> and you can also use OnCalendar with it,
plus it's easier to also make sure only 1 of them is running at
a time; with cron it takes more effort
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1546 [14:57:29] <\\Mr_C\\> how did i install glib2.6 or greater?
1547 [14:58:10] <jelly-home> \\Mr_C\\: which exact package name
are you talking about?
1548 [14:58:42] <\\Mr_C\\> having a hard time compiling the latest
irssi, it says i need glib 2.6 or later
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1562 [15:06:45] <jelly-home> ,v irssi
1563 [15:06:47] <judd> Package: irssi on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.8.15-5; wheezy-security: 0.8.15-5+deb7u6; jessie: 0.8.17-1+deb8u5;
jessie-security: 0.8.17-1+deb8u5; jessie-backports:
1.0.7-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.0.7-1~deb9u1; stretch-security:
1.0.7-1~deb9u1; buster: 1.1.2-1; sid: 1.1.2-1
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1570 [15:08:37] <jelly-home> \\Mr_C\\: if you're compiling
something from source, you need headers and development libraries.
Those come in -dev packages. To avoid hunting for each relevant -dev
package manually...
1571 [15:08:48] <jelly-home> \\Mr_C\\: you can enable deb-src
lines for normal repo and security.debian.org, and get build
dependencies for irssi
1572 [15:08:53] <jelly-home> !deb-src
1573 [15:08:54] <dpkg> You can have apt download the <source
package> from which a <binary package> was compiled using a
"deb-src" line in your <sources.list>. A line like
"deb-src
replaced-url
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1575 [15:08:59] <jelly-home> !build-dep
1576 [15:09:00] <dpkg> build-deps are the packages you need to
compile a package. "aptitude build-dep
package-you-want-to-build" will install them, or use
mk-build-deps (equivs package) to have undo-able build-dep
installation. If using <uupdate> or <ssb> to update a
package, you will likely need additional -dev packages. You can
«/msg judd builddeps package».
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1585 [15:11:57] <uio> Hi. I've had a new battery for a week
and now tlp stat tells me that : Capacity = 93.4 [%] Is this normal?
6% in a week?
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1590 [15:14:28] <uio> Is limiting the charge percent a good idea?
Ie setting it stop charging after a certain amount, like 90%?
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1594 [15:16:32] <linuxconformer> FinalX: systemd works great!
1595 [15:16:53] <uio> Also, xfce4-power-manager gave a low battery
working at 25% even though I set it to 15% !!
1596 [15:17:08] <linuxconformer> just one question: do i need a
start and stop command? because it's not starting
automatically, only when i run systemctl start myjob.service
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1603 [15:21:29] <linuxconformer> i think we're good
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1628 [15:38:12] <rant> uio: sounds like your new battery isnt a
new battery
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1632 [15:39:57] <FinalX> linuxconformer: you need to daemon-reload
and enable the timers (no need to start)
1633 [15:40:36] <FinalX> also you can do cron-like times, too.
like "OnCalendar=*-*-* 5,11,17,23:00" would run it every
day at 05:00, 11:00, 17:00 and 23:00
1634 [15:41:00] <uio> rant, It is, it was brand new, but due to
bad level reporting it has powered off suddenly, which may have
caused battery level loss?
1635 [15:41:02] <FinalX> and "OnCalendar=*-*-*
*:15,30,45" would run it every hour at xx:15, xx:30 and xx:45
1636 [15:41:09] <uio> I mean capacity loss?
1637 [15:41:18] <uio> But I can't seem to set this level...
1638 [15:42:05] <uio> I followed advice here and installed
xfce4-power-manager, which is nice, but I can't get the same
power warnings as in Lubuntu which also uses this power manager.
1639 [15:42:13] <rant> battery degredation is normal wear my two
batteries in this system are degraded to about 70% design capacity
1640 [15:42:44] <uio> rant, But after how long?
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1642 [15:43:13] <uio> Just weird that I can't set the
level...
1643 [15:43:25] <linuxconformer> FinalX: great, thanks
1644 [15:43:26] <uio> I put it at 15% and got the warning at 25%.
1645 [15:43:41] <uio> Then set it to 12% and got no new warning...
1646 [15:44:01] <uio> I tried installing gnome-power-manager, but
can't even get it to run!
1647 [15:44:27] <uio> Other than a bash script with a chron I
don't quite know what to do.
1648 [15:44:52] <uio> It works very well in Lubuntu though, the
LXDE, xfce4-power blend...
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1654 [15:46:53] <rant> these batteries are probably 5 years old or
more
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1656 [15:47:38] <uio> what manager do you have? Do you remove them
for charging?
1657 [15:47:54] <uio> when not charging I mean...
1658 [15:47:58] <rant> hell no.. one of them is internal..
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1666 [15:49:42] <rant> this machine had some version of windows on
it most its life until I liberated it about a year ago and put
Debian on it :P
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1668 [15:49:56] <rant> idk what version cause I didn't bother
looking before erasing it :P
1669 [15:50:03] <uio> lol
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1685 [15:55:27] <rant> I guess these batteries are degraded to 73%
and 80% according to my applet.. and this laptop was mfg in 2013, I
have no reason to believe the batteries were ever changed, and it
was probably sitting mostly unused in a drawer for a year or so
prior to me getting it
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1689 [15:56:24] <rant> I'd like to get new batteries at some
point.. but right now I can get about 10hrs of battery life without
wifi and at low brigness and cpu use
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1692 [15:57:08] <rant> they make the external batteries up to 3x
the capacity of this one.. but the internal ones are all the same
1693 [15:58:36] <rant> I'd imagine with the best batteries
available I could get about 24hrs battery life on this machine
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1705 [16:06:07] <Jmabsd> trying to start X with Nvidia driver, it
fails saying "tried to allocate 24GB of virtual memory,
failed"
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1733 [16:16:57] <Jmabsd> can I make X be started at boot?
1734 [16:17:10] <Jmabsd> there's some program i'd like
to run, maybe i should even add "startx" to some rc.local
or the like
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1736 [16:17:49] <ksk> Jmabsd: arent you using a loginmanager and
also a desktop? these can take care of such things..
1737 [16:17:51] <greycat> you can't run startx from rc.local
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1739 [16:18:06] <greycat> Someone has to log in first.
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1741 [16:18:18] <tarzeau> i'm doing excatly that with
/etc/inittab
1742 [16:18:18] <Jmabsd> hm ok
1743 [16:18:20] <madage> apt-cache show nodm
1744 [16:18:38] <greycat> If you're trying to set up a
"kiosk" system where nobody logs in, just say that up
front.
1745 [16:18:54] <tarzeau> kk:2345:respawn:/usr/sbin/autostartx
1746 [16:19:09] <Jmabsd> maybe then the better way for me to do
it, is somehow enable non-root user to be able to run X/startx from
"non-console terminal" via SSH
1747 [16:19:30] <tarzeau> and autostartx is: /bin/su -s /bin/zsh
-c "/usr/bin/startx" - me 2>/dev/null
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1749 [16:20:16] <greycat> tarzeau: so you are simulating a login.
As I said, someone has to log in.
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1751 [16:20:44] <greycat> Jmabsd: what are you trying to do?
1752 [16:20:45] <tarzeau> greycat: true
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1754 [16:20:56] <Jmabsd> greycat: just run some program that
requires X to be running
1755 [16:21:00] <Jmabsd> indeed that's from a logged in
non-root user
1756 [16:21:18] <greycat> Jmabsd: sounds more like you want to use
X11 forwarding over ssh, here
1757 [16:21:32] <Jmabsd> "xinit: unable to connect to X
server: Connection refused", awr.
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1761 [16:21:46] <Jmabsd> greycat: no, it's to do stuff on the
graphics hardware driver
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1765 [16:23:13] <greycat> Jmabsd: if this is a server that NEVER
runs X, then why are you ... oh god, you're a cryptocurrency
farmer, aren't you.
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1767 [16:24:32] <rant> heh
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1770 [16:26:30] <greycat> If the goal is to do GPU calculation
stuff without user interaction, you should look for the appropriate
tools to achieve those goals. I have no idea what they are, but I
doubt you want to start X.
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1774 [16:27:48] <greycat> That said. if for some reason your tools
*must* have a bogus X server available to talk to, look at the xvfb
package.
1775 [16:27:59] <Jmabsd> greycat: bogus is not good enough here.
1776 [16:28:02] <Jmabsd> hm.
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1805 [16:46:25] <andre144k> hi, anyone knows what i did wrong in
debian-testing? i called "apt-get update && apt-get
dist-upgrade" ... this upgrades kernel to 4.19.x
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1807 [16:46:43] <andre144k> then i reboot the system without any
manual changes
1808 [16:46:53] <jelly-home> !debian-next
1809 [16:46:54] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
1810 [16:46:56] <andre144k> but system is not booting again, it
hangs
1811 [16:47:11] <andre144k> >> Cannot join #debian-next
(Channel is invite only)
1812 [16:47:25] <jelly-home> please reread what the bot said
1813 [16:47:39] <andre144k> ah oki :)
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1816 [16:47:57] <andre144k> i hate problems like that :-(
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1818 [16:48:12] <andre144k> i know its testing... but... fuck.
1819 [16:48:24] <jelly-home> in the meantime, see if the old
kernel still works
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1821 [16:48:42] <cda_> jelly-home, hey
1822 [16:48:48] <jelly-home> it being testing means one should not
be surprised by things breaking
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1824 [16:48:51] <cda_> I am still stuck trying to understand why
sudo is broken
1825 [16:48:58] <andre144k> i have no idea how to switch - theres
no option in grub while booting.
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1829 [16:49:12] <cda_> I am using Linux dev-11 4.9.0-8-amd64 #1
SMP Debian 4.9.130-2 (2018-10-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux
1830 [16:49:21] <andre144k> black screen a while, then its was
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1835 [16:50:08] <andre144k> how should i help myself in this
case... this is nothing it shld be happen in 2018/2019
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1841 [16:51:29] <Kobaz> what's the recommended way to use a
newer kernel on an older debian... say i'm running jessie, and
i want 4.19 or 4.20... traditionally i pull linux-image from
stretch-backports
1842 [16:51:41] <greycat> !st ... oh, you already know.
1843 [16:51:42] <Kobaz> and it works great up until you need to
build something against the kernel, like a new module
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1845 [16:51:55] <greycat> install the matching headers
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1854 [16:53:42] <Kobaz> well the problem with that is
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1856 [16:53:54] <Kobaz> you wind up with a fraken situation
because then you need to pull in gcc-6 from stretch
1857 [16:54:25] <Kobaz> and then it's a slippery slope
1858 [16:54:33] <Kobaz> versus just pulling the kernel image
itself
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1861 [16:56:06] <jelly-home> Kobaz: then build your own kernel
with and older gcc if you can
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1863 [16:56:10] <Kobaz> right yeah
1864 [16:56:13] <Kobaz> that's what i do already
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1867 [16:57:32] <pagetelegram> Is there a PDF/image viewer for
#terminal only? I assume basic 640x480 graphics is possible with out
X11?
1868 [16:58:02] <Kobaz> you could maaaaaybe do some stuff with
xvncserver
1869 [16:58:02] <coltkirk> feh ?
1870 [16:58:09] <n4dir> there is one based on framebuffer, might
be fbi, i could search. Long ago though
1871 [16:58:28] <Kobaz> like, spawn vnc server, open up evince to
view a pdf, automate taking a screenshot
1872 [16:58:39] <Kobaz> something nice and convoluted
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1875 [17:00:08] <coltkirk> its so nice to not have everything
break after $ sudo merge world ... i'm going to stick with
debian for a long time
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1878 [17:01:16] <n4dir> yup, looks like it was fbi
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1887 [17:02:32] <pagetelegram> Thank you...I'll give it a
spin. Seems this deb needs a restart. be back later
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1901 [17:07:16] <coltkirk> any guides for adding an NTFS drive to
fstab, so that it may mount with proper permissions, and such ?
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1904 [17:08:33] <coltkirk> would the arch wiki be relevant
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1906 [17:11:05] <greycat> "man mount" has a section for
"Mount options for ntfs". It's the first hit on
"ntfs".
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1915 [17:12:27] <coltkirk> cool. People tell me reading man pages
is a skill... A skill i need to brush up on
1916 [17:13:19] <pagetelegram> Thank you for fbi suggestion. Works
well although not well for rastered PDF files....can't read it.
Does not load more of the image when you zoom in. DPI ignored
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1927 [17:18:01] <n4dir> pagetelegram: too tired to really
understand, but the guy also mentioned: fbgs and fbv .
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1937 [17:22:48] <Abdullah>
replaced-url
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1941 [17:24:31] <jelly-home> neat
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1959 [17:32:09] <pagetelegram> n4dir thank you for the repeat.
Going to try them now.
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1966 [17:34:48] <n4dir> good luck. i could link the thread, but it
really only mentiones them, the rest is about framebuffer in
general. pagetelegram
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1971 [17:36:40] <pagetelegram> gotcha....I have some noodling
around to find where I can get those tools....they are not in the
depos with deb9.6
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1973 [17:37:04] <n4dir> the thread is from 2012 ... :-)
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1982 [17:39:26] <pagetelegram> Yeah I found it on some polish
server. wget .... going to try compiling it. only 18kb
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2021 [17:56:34] <pagetelegram> I can't find anywhere to
install libungif and the libungif-bin is not what fbv complains it
needs.
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2127 [18:42:39] <Resilience> what commando should I issue (is that
right?⁾ to check my harddisks?
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2129 [18:42:54] <greycat> To check what? Free space? df
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2131 [18:43:25] <Resilience> greycat, oh sorry, to check the
sanity of filesystem and the physical state of the disk
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2138 [18:47:34] <greycat> File systems are checked when you boot,
because they have to be unmounted, or mounted read-only, to do so.
To force a manual fsck, you would need to boot in rescue mode, or
from alternate media.
2139 [18:47:49] <greycat> For physical disk stuff, I guess you
want smartmontools but it's not a thing I've used.
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2142 [18:48:58] <petn-randall> `touch /forcefsck` and rebooting
doesn't work anymore?
2143 [18:49:15] <Kobaz> how would i set up dnsmasq to only do dhcp
and no dns
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2146 [18:50:15] <greycat> I've never been able to find the
systemd equivalent of /forcefsck and I don't know if there even
*is* one.
2147 [18:51:40] <Resilience> petn-randall, greycat why do you put
the / in /forcefsck=
2148 [18:52:00] <Resilience> greycat, I thought you could see some
params of hdd's with hdparm
2149 [18:52:08] <greycat> Because that is the full pathname of the
file that worked for this purpose in wheezy and earlier.
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2151 [18:52:29] <Resilience> greycat, was it located in / ?
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2154 [18:53:04] <greycat> It was not "located" anywhere.
If you CREATED it then it would have an effect. But's it moot
now. It doesn't work under systemd.
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2157 [18:53:38] <Resilience> greycat,ah, you set up that file and
at init system forces the dsck of the drives, how was that mechanis
called?
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2159 [18:54:05] <greycat> yes
2160 [18:54:37] <Resilience> greycat, never heard of it (untill
now) how was it called?
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2162 [18:55:03] <petn-randall> Resilience: it's called
"you set up that file and at init system forces the dsck of the
drives".
2163 [18:55:15] <greycat> well, fsck instead of dsck
2164 [18:55:24] <Resilience> petn-randall, oh, what a beautiful
name...
2165 [18:55:33] <Resilience> greycat, typo, sorry
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2229 [19:22:12] <boeckwurst> hi i dont know where this topic fits
most but erm.. i have a physical server (dell) and i want to add
hard drives within the case on top of the mobo. is there any
compartment i can look for to hold the drives?
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2233 [19:23:26] <greycat> there's a ##hardware channel that
might know
2234 [19:23:48] <petn-randall> boeckwurst: I'd check the
product handbook if they offer such thing. You're probably
looking for the term "drive bay". Also what greycat said.
Good luck!
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2236 [19:24:38] <boeckwurst> petn-randall: YES i have a DVD drive
i can kick out, thanks!
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2274 [19:38:05] <rafalcpp> how to remove all messages from my
local unix mailbox thing?
2275 [19:38:34] <greycat> Either use a MUA to read and delete all
the messages, or simply truncate the mail file, assuming you're
using the default mbox format.
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2277 [19:38:47] <rafalcpp> greycat: it makes thunderbird hang
2278 [19:38:57] <greycat> Then exit the MUA (thunderbird) first.
2279 [19:39:03] <rafalcpp> probably as result of using shitscript
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2281 [19:39:30] <rafalcpp> greycat: which file is that? to
truncate
2282 [19:39:36] <greycat> $MAIL should say
2283 [19:39:49] <rafalcpp> $MAIL is empty
2284 [19:39:54] <greycat> well, that's not normal
2285 [19:40:05] <greycat> how did you manage that feat?
2286 [19:40:13] <rafalcpp> $MAILCHECK is 60. Never configured
$MAIL on any system
2287 [19:40:42] <greycat> $MAIL is set by login(1) but I am still
fuzzy on how systemd changes that
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2290 [19:40:57] <rafalcpp> $systemd_broke_it_smth
2291 [19:41:04] <greycat> Anyway, on a *typical* Debian system,
$MAIL contains /var/mail/$LOGNAME
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2293 [19:42:05] <rafalcpp> yeap, it was there
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2299 [19:44:14] <coltkirk> success, edited first fstab with uuid
for auto mounting extra drives
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2302 [19:45:22] <uio> hi, I sync a file in Documents with one on a
usb key via unison. Now I'm trying to access files on the usb,
but am getting Input/ouput error messages or 'read-only'
messages when I try to open or modify files. Earlier today I
couldn't open a text file on Windows and had to borrow another
Linux machine to access it... How can I solve this issue, I know
I'm not describing it well, but don't know where to start.
I'm worried this will happe
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2304 [19:45:28] <uio> ..understand the issue.
2305 [19:45:36] <uio> Any help is appreciated!
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2307 [19:46:09] <uio> Could accessing it in Windows have messed it
up?
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2310 [19:46:46] <uio> Also, I don't know if this is relevant,
but I just tested a live-usb on this machine (from a different usb
of course, but I don't know if this could have had an
effect....)
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2313 [19:47:32] <uio> In the 'read only' dialogue box
error I get (sorry, it's in French : Le fichier sur le disque
est peut-être tronqué )
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2320 [19:51:42] <uio> !ping
2321 [19:51:43] <dpkg> Yes, uio, you are online.
2322 [19:51:48] <uio> !pong
2323 [19:51:49] <dpkg> [pong] the best name on IRC e.g. /ping
pong, or *the* classic video game
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2332 [19:54:30] <coltkirk> is it mounted
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2334 [19:55:40] <uio> coltkirk: I think so.... I see it in PCmanfm
with the little 'eject' logo
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2340 [19:56:50] <coltkirk> sudo fdisk -l to get the location..
such as /dev/sda1 . then $ mount | grep /dev/sda1 to see
2341 [19:57:26] <coltkirk> other than mounting filesystems i
don't know that much
2342 [19:57:28] <uio> coltkirk: I have it open and can read files,
so I assume it must be mounted, no?
2343 [19:57:29] <Abdullah> EFI variables are not supported on this
system.
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2345 [19:57:42] <tlund> Does anyone know the status of
CVE-2018-16864 (systemd-journald) in Debian Jessie? Jessie is
supposed to have active security support AFAIK, but it is still
listed as vulnerable at
replaced-url
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2348 [19:57:59] <uio> tlund: !anyone
2349 [19:58:19] <Abdullah> !anyone
2350 [19:58:20] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you,
knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'.
Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_
"does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about
<popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask>
<polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
2351 [19:59:13] <greycat> tlund: since you've already found
the security tracker page, that *is* the status. That's all
anyone knows, outside of the actual security and LTS teams.
2352 [19:59:31] <uio> Does anyone have any ideas for this usb
issues? (!anyone... I know...)
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2356 [20:00:09] <uio> How can a usb suddenly start having
input/output errors and read-only errors?
2357 [20:00:33] <SlidingHorn> uio: hardware failure is one way
2358 [20:00:42] <uio> What could have triggered it? How can I
solve it? How can I make sure it doesn't happen again?
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2360 [20:00:53] <uio> SlidingHorn: So you think the usb is toast?
2361 [20:01:05] <uio> SlidingHorn: I can still access the files
though...
2362 [20:01:15] <pagetelegram> Can mc *midnight commandor* be used
with sftp or ssh? If so where can I learn how to hook that up a site
that is wiki or lynx friendly. Thanks
2363 [20:01:41] <SlidingHorn> I haven't read all the way back
- just saw the "i/o errors" msg and that's what came
to mind
2364 [20:01:57] <ardualabs> tlund: also, not to beat a dead horse,
but a google on the CVE number + debian got this:
replaced-url
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2369 [20:03:00] <uio> SlidingHorn: Hmmmm. Just a few hours ago I
was able to save a pdf to it... Any now it is read-only...
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2376 [20:04:56] <dob1> hi, I am trying to use cutter but I get
openning ip_conntrack or nf_conntrack (is kernel module
'conntrack' loaded?): No such file or directory , I have
conntrack package installed. I read that /proc/net/nt_conntrack is
not used anymore
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2378 [20:05:42] <uio> What could cause the read-only change?
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2382 [20:08:03] <dob1> damn this is a bug of about 10 years old...
2383 [20:08:08] <dob1> nice test of the package...
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2385 [20:08:58] <SerajewelKS> is there a way to have umount hang
until the filesystem is not busy?
2386 [20:09:01] <dob1> Adilson dos Reis
<adilsondosreis@yahoo.com.br> nice mantainer of the package,
he didn't even run the program to see that it doesn't work
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2388 [20:09:33] <SerajewelKS> i have a script that creates an LVM
snapshot and mounts it (along with some bind mounts) to create a
shadow environment for backup
2389 [20:10:02] <uio> [so many questions... so few answers...]
2390 [20:10:10] <SerajewelKS> part of this process it to start
mysqld to dump databases without locking the live database.
"mysqladmin shutdown" may return before mysqld fully
terminates. right now i have a hacky "sleep 5" in there
before unmounting anything.
2391 [20:10:21] <SerajewelKS> but i'd prefer to have umount
just wait for mysqld to quit
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2394 [20:11:13] <pagetelegram> I solved my question, with mc just
'cd ssh://user@host' and mc will load it happily.
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2397 [20:12:05] <uio> "Perhaps it is read-only or opened in
another program?"
2398 [20:12:21] <uio> It's not open in another program, so it
must be read-only....
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2404 [20:15:51] <uio> Now I've synced files, and overwritten
old ones... only to find that the 'new' ones from the usb
are '0 octets' and so I have lost my original files. What
is this back-up system Unison???????
2405 [20:15:59] <uio> What is going on?
2406 [20:16:07] <uio> How am I losing my files?
2407 [20:16:14] <uio> Where are they going??
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2411 [20:17:16] <uio> How is this even possible???
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2418 [20:19:26] <uio> Does anyone have any idea what might have
happend?
2419 [20:19:33] <uio> Is this a software issue?
2420 [20:19:35] <uio> Hardware??
2421 [20:19:40] <uio> This is not cool.
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2427 [20:21:28] <uio> Is this just a basic case of "file
corruption"? Should I stop using that usb?
2428 [20:21:47] <uio> I'm told that data recovery in the
event of a right-over is impossible.
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2430 [20:22:09] <uio> This is the second time that my efforts to
'back-up' have just erased my files.
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2434 [20:23:50] <dob1> I am sorry, In some way it seems to work
cutter program. needs to load some modules
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2479 [20:39:31] <lapideviridi> Having some issues with network
connectivity. Lab partner insisted on setting up the raspberry pi,
but network configuration doesn't seem to work as expected.
Seems to me like wpa_supplicant tries to find the conf file in
'/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf', rather than
'/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf' Full error:
replaced-url
2480 [20:40:15] <lapideviridi> Interfaces file should point it in
the right direction:
replaced-url
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2483 [20:41:46] <resuni> lapideviridi: I hate to ask the obvious,
but does /etc/wp_supplicant.conf exit? Is here perhaps a typo in the
name?
2484 [20:41:54] <resuni> *exist
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2486 [20:42:14] <resuni> Wow, lots of typos myself there.
2487 [20:42:23] <uio> resuni: lol
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2489 [20:43:17] <lapideviridi> resuni, config file is in
'/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf'. Not sure why it
is looking for the config at '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.
Interfaces file defines it correctly. Can interfaces be overwritten
somehow?
2490 [20:43:42] <uio> resuni: I just have wpa_supplicant.conf
2491 [20:43:49] <resuni> In line one of your command, you're
referencing /etc/wpa_spplicant.conf.
2492 [20:43:58] <resuni> line one of your paste, I mean.
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2494 [20:44:40] <uio> resuni: I only have /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
2495 [20:45:07] <resuni> Specifically,
"-c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf". That would be why it's
looking for /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.
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2497 [20:45:50] <pagetelegram> I try ssh or sftp and I just get a
blinking cursor. ie ssh -p 22 host address /* I'm trying ssh
for first time. What am I missing?
2498 [20:45:57] <uio> My conclusion, from help from #Ubuntu and
SlidingHorn, is that the usb is simply corrupted, and should be
replaced.
2499 [20:46:42] <resuni> I must be missing something huge then.
2500 [20:46:51] <resuni> You say you want the config file to be
here: /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
2501 [20:47:03] <resuni> Your command is referencing a file here:
/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
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2503 [20:47:11] <lapideviridi> resuni, jesus christ. Did not see
that. Copied that command from the docs for testing
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2506 [20:47:41] <resuni> We've all been there :)
2507 [20:48:04] <greycat> pagetelegram: can you ping the address
you used? Is there a firewall between you and the machine at this
address?
2508 [20:48:24] <resuni> Going afk. If you need more help,
hopefully someone else will be willing.
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2512 [20:49:47] <pagetelegram> pings fine....no firewall other
than what my friend has setup on his server. Though my ip is in the
green. Able to connect on another computer fine using filezilla and
putty
2513 [20:50:16] <greycat> If it pings, but a TCP connection times
out, that is definitely a firewall.
2514 [20:50:22] <pagetelegram> *Able to connect from another
computer fine to friens server I mean
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2520 [20:51:19] <pagetelegram> Thanks greycat. How do I confirm if
it is infact timing out and not just *broken*
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2524 [20:52:17] <lapideviridi> resuni, thanks. Looks like I was
barking up the wrong tree. Seems to work fine now. Just had to
disable a script which read the IP address out loud with espeak. The
TA insisted that we all use that for university network. Such a
hassle...
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2527 [20:52:53] <pagetelegram> is there some guest ip and login I
can use to test with ssh?
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2529 [20:54:02] <greycat> Are you asking how you can test just
your ssh client, without using this suspect server? Try "ssh
nethack@alt.org"
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2532 [20:54:24] <greycat> That should give you a terminal-based
menu, and you can just press q to exit.
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2534 [20:54:56] <greycat> or you could play nethack
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2543 [20:59:27] <pagetelegram> great thanks....will give that a
whirl.
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2547 [21:00:31] <pagetelegram> thank you greycat....yes must be
fire wall for the IP I want
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2551 [21:05:40] <pagetelegram> I figured out, typo all this time
in IP. How do I transfer file from client to host? And then from
host to client?
2552 [21:06:05] <greycat> sftp should be a good start.
2553 [21:06:37] <greycat> in the interactive mode, it mimics the
traditional command-line FTP client. "get" and
"put" and "cd" and so on.
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2556 [21:09:07] <pagetelegram> Great, got that far. How do I
return to my session after i've done an '!'?
2557 [21:09:36] <greycat> exit
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2560 [21:10:09] <pagetelegram> Thank you was afraid that I was
wrong about assuming that.
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2593 [21:31:15] <vlt> Hello. Yesterday I upgraded one of our
machines from Debian 8 to 9 (after a previous uptime of ~300 days).
After a few hours any network communication stopped. I
serial’d in and saw this:
replaced-url
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2596 [21:31:47] <vlt> Any idea what caused this? THe machine is
running fine since then but I’m afraid it could happen any
time again.
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2604 [21:35:50] <vlt> This is the kernel running at that time: [
0.000000] Linux version 4.9.0-8-amd64 (debian-kernel@replaced-ip ) (gcc version 6.3.0 20170516 (Debian 6.3.0-18+deb9u1) ) #1 SMP
Debian 4.9.130-2 (2018-10-27)
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2616 [21:38:39] <sn00ker> hi all
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2621 [21:39:52] <sn00ker> if you make a ssh or scp sometimes the
question yes / no comes up because you do not know the hosts yet.
can one deactivate that somehow?
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2625 [21:40:51] <whislock> You can. But you shouldn't.
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2630 [21:42:42] <sn00ker> I want my vpn server all clients
connected by ssh can send a command. the authorization with rsa file
but he always asks for it and breaks my script
2631 [21:43:21] <vlt> sn00ker: Yeah, you should make sure each
client talks to the actual ssh server.
2632 [21:43:24] <ayekat> sn00ker: the known hosts are stored in a
file (known_hosts), so you could add an entry for the server before
running your script
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2634 [21:43:34] <sn00ker> ssh -i key_file user @ VPNIP
/run/script.sh
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2636 [21:43:58] <sn00ker> which clients are currently connected is
in my openvpn mysql table
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2646 [21:53:31] <petn-randall> sn00ker: Still working on that
botnet?
2647 [21:54:09] <sn00ker> petn-randall, boah ... you're here
too ... are you following me?
2648 [21:54:52] <petn-randall> sn00ker: Nope. I'm oper here.
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*!*@p200300D083D146534DB609AD24D706BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
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2653 [21:55:17] <whislock> Nice.
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2699 [22:17:31] <blackflow> wth was that :)
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2722 [22:28:14] <oo_miguel> I installed anacron, and from what I
understand it is launched via cron. there is a corresponding line in
/etc/cron.d/anacron
2723 [22:28:53] <oo_miguel> however it contains: [ ! -d
/run/systemd/system ] as a prequisite. so it seems not to get
launched at all
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2726 [22:29:26] <greycat> What else is in the package, apart from
the /etc/cron.d/ file?
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2729 [22:30:33] <oo_miguel> basicallu the binary and
/etc/init.d/anacron
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2731 [22:30:38] <oo_miguel> basically
2732 [22:31:11] <greycat> If I looked up the list of files on the
web page, I wonder whether I would find a systemd timer thingy in
it.
2733 [22:31:20] <oo_miguel> ah ok
2734 [22:31:26] <oo_miguel> aah
2735 [22:31:28] <oo_miguel> there is one
2736 [22:31:32] <oo_miguel> you are right
2737 [22:31:35] <greycat>
replaced-url
2738 [22:31:38] <greycat> /lib/systemd/system/anacron.timer
2739 [22:32:02] <oo_miguel> ok, so for some reason this timer does
not kick in as expeted. but I will explore this further
2740 [22:32:08] <oo_miguel> thtought it should be run via cron
2741 [22:32:08] <greycat> Seemed obvious, when you pointed out
that there's a legacy trigger that disables itself when systemd
is present, that there would also be a systemd trigger.
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2743 [22:32:26] <oo_miguel> thanks for pointing me in this
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2745 [22:32:41] <oo_miguel> I will try to find out why the systemd
timer does not work
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2824 [23:00:31] <M6HZ> Hello, what is the difference between the
two packages : fonts-dejavu and ttf-dejavu ?
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2827 [23:01:45] <M6HZ> Also, is it normal that even with these two
packages installed, xlsfonts doesn't print the font in the list
?
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2830 [23:02:32] <mspe> ttf-dejavu is a transitional package
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2836 [23:06:17] <M6HZ> mspe: Yes, I have read that in the
description, but what does that mean please ?
2837 [23:06:29] <SerajewelKS> it means that used to be the name of
the package and it was renamed
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2840 [23:06:46] <SerajewelKS> the transitional package is the
mechanism by which you get the new package when upgrading
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2843 [23:07:42] <M6HZ> SerajewelKS: alright
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2847 [23:08:15] <M6HZ> SerajewelKS: Do you have any clue why this
font in not listed by xlsfonts ?
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2880 [23:23:37] <SerajewelKS> M6HZ: i don't know what that is
2881 [23:24:06] <Gm4n> I'm on jessie and enabling
jessie-backports to install a package. however, once I enable I
immediately see libssl as needing an update. should I pin it so it
doesn't update?
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2883 [23:25:06] <whislock> You shouldn't be pulling from
backports constantly.
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2885 [23:26:42] <Gm4n> so the correct approach is to add
backports, install a package, then remove them from my sources.list?
I thought backports were pinned lower priority than mainline
packages so that wasn't needed
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2888 [23:27:22] <whislock> They're not pinned, per se. Just
that the repo is typically ignored unless apt is told to use it.
2889 [23:27:26] <M6HZ> SerajewelKS: This is a tool designed to
list installed fonts usable as XLFD. In a way it's similar to
xfontsel
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2891 [23:28:28] <Gm4n> whislock: ok, that makes sense (although I
don't understand the mechanism). but shouldn't an `apt
upgrade` not try to change libssl then?
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2893 [23:28:59] <whislock> apt update ; apt -t jessie-backports
install thing
2894 [23:29:11] <whislock> That's how I'm used to using
backports.
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2897 [23:30:12] <Gm4n> yes, that makes sense and is what <replaced-url
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2904 [23:33:29] <whislock> To which version?
2905 [23:34:16] <Gm4n> when I add the backports line to my
sources.list and `apt update`, I'm told to update
libssl1.0.0/jessie-backports 1.0.2l-1~bpo8+1 amd64 [upgradable from:
1.0.1t-1+deb8u7]
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2909 [23:35:59] <whislock> pastebin the output of 'apt-cache
policy libssl1.0.0', please?
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2914 [23:37:18] <Gm4n> whislock:
replaced-url
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2916 [23:38:10] <whislock> Okay, lastly, what's in your
sources.list? The whole thing.
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2921 [23:40:26] <Gm4n> oopsies, I listed jessie-backports instead
of stretch-backports :[ thank you!
2922 [23:41:04] <whislock> You're on jessie, right?
2923 [23:41:17] <Gm4n> I'm on stretch (d'oh)
2924 [23:41:28] <whislock> There you go.
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2926 [23:42:46] <Truxx> Ok, solved it with lxrandr
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