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0 [00:00:08] <peterS> eh? who said that?
1 [00:00:56] <tdn> Hello71, problem is that browsers no longer
accept sha1 signed certs
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4 [00:01:22] <tdn> Hello71, that means sites using sha1 certs
stop working
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7 [00:01:34] <tdn> broken sha1 or not
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9 [00:02:25] <peterS> tdn: right, because the only use for
X.509 certificates is web browsing (:
10 [00:03:46] <tdn> peterS, not the only use but by far the most
prevalent
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41 [00:18:40] <AAS13> I've just followed the instructions
on this page
replaced-url
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50 [00:23:49] <AAS13> I ran nvidia-xconfig as well
51 [00:25:04] <OerHeks> AAS13, according to nvidia, gtx960 is
supported by the 346 driver and up
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66 [00:32:11] <AAS13> OerHeks, that page installs 367.44, why
would it be saying 'no such device'?
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69 [00:33:01] <oiaohm> AAS13: what version of debian are you on.
If you are on jessie 367.44 (via jessie-backports)<< the big
in brackets says you need to add a repository.
70 [00:33:25] <OerHeks> AAS13, oh it did install 367
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72 [00:35:00] <oiaohm> AAS13:
replaced-url
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110 [00:54:12] <pupuser80aa5c> Is it possible to switch from a
live running linux operating system to debian OS? If so, then how?
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139 [01:03:29] <semitones> Hi all! I'm installind debian for
the first time in a long time
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143 [01:04:09] <semitones> I'm at the root password part,
and my instinct is to leave it blank, so that sudo must be used. Is
that a common thing to do?
144 [01:04:12] <AAS13> Oiaohm: the 'freshest' main-
8.7.1, I added the repo..
145 [01:04:38] <missmbob> semitones: for private machines
it's commonish
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150 [01:05:37] <semitones> missmbob: thanks! I went ahead and did
it. I'm installing open media vault on jessie :)
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162 [01:09:59] <Shadow_7> semitones: that's kind of
ubuntu's approach
163 [01:10:26] <Shadow_7> semitones: but if you hose it up,
you're SOL without chroot abilities.
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168 [01:11:30] <semitones> Shadow_7: it's possible to chroot
on ubuntu with default setup -- I've done that a few times to
repair grub. Are you sure it's impossible on debian in this
setup?
169 [01:11:30] <missmbob> !tell AAS13 about dont break debian
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172 [01:13:35] <semitones> and if I understand correctly, if I
want to setup my partitions beforehand, I have to leave the
partition for debian as "free space" rather than format it
ext4?
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212 [01:36:31] <Akuw> hi, i am trying to run php files but it
shows white page only
213 [01:36:47] <Akuw> it show html files but no php
214 [01:36:53] <Akuw> is a shared server
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217 [01:38:36] <missmbob> !install php
218 [01:38:36] <dpkg> To install PHP on Apache, install
libapache2-mod-php5, then restart your browser and try to access a
php page. If this doesn't work, ask me about <php wants me
to download still>. There are also CGI and CLI versions of PHP
available in the php5-cgi and php5-cli packages. See also <php
mpm> <phpmyadmin> <install mysql> <install
apache>.
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223 [01:42:18] <Akuw> is installed
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227 [01:44:30] <anonrebel> hey I know this is for debian stable
only but I'm running out of options I'm using sparky linux
which is based on debian testing. I'm just in need of help
getting my internet working. I can't go wired so that's
out of the question. Recently I updated my system and lost internet
connectivity. Every time I try to open a browser it says the DNS
couldn't be reached. I tried an IP address and the site
couldn't be reached same
228 [01:44:30] <anonrebel> error message. It says I'm
connected via wifi but there's 0 internet. It's on a
different system than the one I'm using right now. I'd
appreciate it if someone could help.
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233 [01:47:19] <awal1> anonrebel, someone will call dpkg anyways
as I'll call him, sorry :P
234 [01:47:29] <awal1> dpkg: sparky linux
235 [01:47:29] <dpkg> SparkyLinux is a Linux distribution based
on <testing>. It is not supported in #debian or #debian-next.
replaced-url
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256 [01:57:15] <r4f_debian> Hi all
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266 [02:03:15] <pupuser80aa5c> hi
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275 [02:07:41] <semitones> I'm kinda mad at the installer...
first of all it never gave me the option to select manual
partitioning. Then, it lied and said after I selected a drive to
partition it would have a confirmation screen. THERE WAS NO SUCH
SCREEN and it went ahead and wiped the disk. Good think I have a
backup. Bad behavior!
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278 [02:09:08] <zykotick9> semitones: doesn't sound like any
debian installer i've ever used...
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281 [02:11:17] <Shadow_7> semitones: debootstrap is more sane for
the paranoid
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290 [02:14:40] <deego> What kind of automated process could be
running this on my debian? /usr/bin/atop -a -w
/var/log/atop/atop_20170301 600 (not me! I've never used atop)
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294 [02:15:25] <Shadow_7> deego: who does ps say is running it?
UID
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296 [02:15:57] <semitones> zykotick9: it set the timezone, then
detected disks, then did what I said. But whatever.
297 [02:16:00] <deego> Shadow_7: root
298 [02:16:14] <semitones> Shadow_7: how would I have done
debootstrap? Press escape, and then somehow choose it from the menu?
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301 [02:16:53] <Shadow_7> semitones: many distros have a try out
mode... as long as it's deb based, debootstrap should be an
option.
302 [02:17:02] <deego> ah, it seems that merely having atop
around runs it.
303 [02:17:15] <deego> having the package installed, i mean
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308 [02:19:56] <semitones> Shadow_7: hm, on this one there were
two options: install (which was the debian-installer) and install
with console. Plus a collection of tools that probed the hardware
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317 [02:24:30] <Shadow_7> You can use an ubuntu live cd to do a
debian debootstrap install. You install linux in linux in a chroot
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328 [02:31:20] <hanasaki> have a good link for writing your own
systemd service files? and what directories user created go in vs
system level ones?
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367 [02:53:39] <mrtrump> is jfs better than xfs?
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369 [02:53:54] <mrtrump> u mooks
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371 [02:54:13] <mrtrump> everyone asleep?
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373 [02:54:18] <mrtrump> watchin youtube?
374 [02:54:27] <cumbajohnny> does anybody use fog server in
here>
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376 [02:55:15] <mrtrump>
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377 [02:55:17] <mrtrump> wow
378 [02:55:17] <mrtrump> oo
379 [02:55:21] <mrtrump> the right way
380 [02:55:23] <mrtrump> woaaaoo
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382 [02:55:42] <awal1> Do I really need a mail transfer agent,
exim4 precisely, for internal/local system messages/news?
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389 [02:57:21] <Chiuoi> They say "the winner's write
history," it is absolutely true, and the most egregious example
in modern times has to be the mainstream (mis)understanding of Adolf
Hitler and pre-WWII Germany. Adolf Hitler vs The Jew World Order:
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402 [03:01:17] <karnisones>
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403 [03:01:23] <karnisones> This video explains the mechanics of
how we are getting fleeced, but fails to mention the jews who are
doing it to us.
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413 [03:06:52] <mrtrump> lol
414 [03:06:57] <mrtrump> jooooooooz
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416 [03:07:03] <mrtrump> tax movies and TV and lawyers 99%
417 [03:07:05] <mrtrump> :)
418 [03:07:12] <mrtrump> al screwy scum
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421 [03:07:22] <mrtrump> mass produced housing built by poor
laborers
422 [03:07:24] <missmbob> !chat
423 [03:07:24] <dpkg> This is not a chat channel, this is a
Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support
question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or
##chat on irc.freenode.net.
424 [03:07:32] <mrtrump> jfs or zfs?
425 [03:07:37] <mrtrump> er xfs
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439 [03:10:19] <jelly> mrtrump: there are plenty of social
channels that might be more acceptable to outbursts like that, but
this isn't one of them. Keep it to debian tech support in here
and not just as an afterthought, or be quiet
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441 [03:12:24] <AciD`> every single time I forget how I managed
to workaround the buggy debian installer
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444 [03:12:54] <AciD`> I used dd to copy the
`debian-live-8.7.1-amd64-kde-desktop.iso` to my usb stick, then boot
on it
445 [03:13:34] <AciD`> you start the installation and at one
point, the installer tries to find the _CD_, which of course it
can't since it's an usb stick, and you have no way of
skipping this step
446 [03:13:43] <lhx> mrtrump: Is it going to be yuuuuuuge?
447 [03:14:05] <AciD`> anybody remember how to install a live
usb? I think I remember having to simply type `live` somewhere, but
can't recall exactly
448 [03:14:13] <lhx> ?
449 [03:14:16] <lhx> AciD`: ?
450 [03:14:24] <AciD`> lhx -> ??
451 [03:14:39] <lhx> AciD`: what do you mean remember how to
install al ive usb... make the usb, boot it, pick live option
452 [03:15:15] <AvatarA> the iso is fine, something else is wrong
there
453 [03:15:53] <jelly> AciD`: if you want to install, use the
installer image not the live one
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456 [03:16:20] <jelly> live images have issues, one thing I
remember is problems with uefi systems
457 [03:16:35] <AciD`> I'm trying to install debian 8.7 on a
very old eee pc 1001px, and somehow the 'live' entry
bugged. I'm trying the 'live (failsafe)' now
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459 [03:17:07] <AciD`> -install +launch
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462 [03:17:36] <AciD`> jelly -> well, from my personal
experience, the installer _always_ asks for a cd, even when you use
an usb key
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465 [03:18:11] <jelly> AciD`: but by your own words, you're
not using the installer image right now
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467 [03:18:31] <jelly> and live behaves differently from d-i
468 [03:18:46] <AciD`> jelly -> yes, because each time I
managed to install Debian with an usb key, it was with the live
image
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470 [03:19:32] <jelly> ok, now go try netinst again.
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473 [03:20:23] <jelly> if it's a laptop with wireless only,
perhaps use
474 [03:20:26] <jelly> !firmware images
475 [03:20:26] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
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479 [03:24:31] <veek> Why does: ausyscall --dump|grep -i accept
show nothing on Debian i686.
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481 [03:24:54] <veek> it works on rhel
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513 [03:37:18] <veek> awall yes
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515 [03:37:34] <veek> root@debian:~# dpkg -l|grep auditd ii
auditd 1:2.4-1+b1 i386 User space tools for security auditing
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637 [04:29:43] <mrtrump> hmm
638 [04:29:49] <mrtrump> can someone read this?
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640 [04:30:01] <poor_admin> or this
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643 [04:30:21] <poor-admin> sdfsd
644 [04:30:22] <dax> yes on both counts.
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646 [04:30:28] <poor-admin> ok
647 [04:30:29] <missmbob> poor-admin: dont do that
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649 [04:30:46] <missmbob> poor-admin: go elsewhere. you have
already been warned
650 [04:30:56] <poor-admin> wait
651 [04:31:03] <poor-admin> I have a deb question
652 [04:31:07] <poor-admin> on topic
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654 [04:31:32] <pupuser80aa5c> or at least put read question on
one line if you're not sure if you're connected.
655 [04:32:06] <hanasaki> any reason the cherrytrail kernel mods
never made it into the debian kernel? how to request to get them in?
656 [04:32:17] <hanasaki> I think its just the sound ... not sure
though
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658 [04:33:34] <poor-admin> whats nice about the cherrytrail
kmods?
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661 [04:37:18] <DammitJim> what is good software to set up a high
available proxy? I've used heartbeat in the past
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681 [04:47:38] <Teststst> Hey. I have mounted debian dvd 2 to a
usb stick in order to install some packages to a pc wich is not
connected to the internet. How do I add it to the source file list
so I can install the packages threw the terminal? Note: It's
not an iso file, it's mounted on a usb stick.
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687 [04:51:20] <trumpy_> hey all
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692 [04:52:35] <icez> Teststst: apt-cdrom add -d /mnt/yourusb
693 [04:52:47] <icez> then update
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696 [04:53:47] <Teststst> icez: ye I tried that, and the
/media/debian path but it does not work :( here is output:
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700 [04:55:53] * dvs uses the double BD image to avoid mounting a
second DVD image
701 [04:56:09] <icez> Teststst: mount the cd and use the
/mnt/point and not /dev/sdb
702 [04:56:15] <missmbob> Teststst: not quite what you asked for
but if you cant figure out the dvd as usb thing, i use this script
for offline machines. it downloads the package and all dependencies.
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703 [04:56:26] <icez> mount the usb I mean
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706 [04:58:21] <Teststst> icez: How do I mount the usb as a cd?
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708 [04:58:55] <icez> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
709 [04:59:15] <icez> then apt-cdrom add -d /mnt, assuming
/dev/sdb1 is your usb drive
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713 [05:00:25] <sonnie> hi guys. My alsamixer shows Master only,
therefore when I play any audio/video, there is no sound out from my
headphone plugged into front
714 [05:01:40] <poor-admin> you got hit liek spacebar over most
of thsoe columns
715 [05:01:46] <poor-admin> to unmute
716 [05:02:07] <poor-admin> f5 or something shows them all
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718 [05:02:14] <poor-admin> look toward the top
719 [05:02:41] <Teststst> icez: mount /dev/sdb /mnt says /dev/sdb
is write-protected, mounting read-only and after that it does not
work with apt-cdrom add
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722 [05:03:06] <dvs> Teststst, /dev/sdb1 not /dev/sdb
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724 [05:03:32] <Teststst> sdb1 does not exist
725 [05:03:37] <sonnie> poor-admin, it IS on the top. I think the
default sound card config is wrong
726 [05:04:18] <icez> Teststst: are you sure /dev/sdb is your
usb? Seems strange it would be write-protected
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728 [05:05:08] <trumpy_> love it when you kill off tmux instead
of 1 window :/
729 [05:05:42] <Teststst> icez: is it strange? It's created
with the dvd 2 iso from debian and created the iso file with dd in
terminal. maybe it's write protected because you're not
supposed to mix with the files since it acts like a cd?
730 [05:06:06] <Teststst> Maybe easier if I just put the iso on
it instead of writing it to the usb
731 [05:06:49] <sonnie> ok, after I remove pulseaudio, it is
working
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741 [05:11:25] <innn> prolly realized the vile nature of judaism,
including its hatred of humanity and its boldfaced lying deceptions,
when i was not even 7 years old.
replaced-url
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747 [05:13:06] <llamapixel> that was random but this is irc.
748 [05:13:15] <aesycos> ur an ircc
749 [05:13:18] <aesycos> ;P
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751 [05:13:21] <aesycos> hi
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753 [05:13:35] <userro> hi
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756 [05:13:55] <tofutoon> llamapixel: Well, he did get booted
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767 [05:20:47] <ctcx> Can one mention stuff about sql here?
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775 [05:23:15] <qmr> ctcx: NO ABSOLUTELY NOT
776 [05:23:33] <Teststst> i re-logged. Did anyone write anything
about my case?
777 [05:24:14] <qmr> cbf to read scrollback sry
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784 [05:29:26] <Shadow_7> it's a cooler master and pink?
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786 [05:30:44] <Teststst> !PACKAGES
787 [05:30:44] <dpkg> Debian .deb packages are a special form of
<ar> archive which can be unpacked with "ar x
pkg.deb". Inside the file control.tar.gz are conffiles,
installation scripts, and a file "control" which contains
the information shown with "apt-cache show pkg".
Dependencies can be changed by editing this file. Install the
dpkg-dev package and read "man 5 deb" for more details. A
better plan is to see <package recompile> <source
package>.
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791 [05:32:18] <trumpy_> pink master coolers are leet
792 [05:33:41] <veek> Why does: ausyscall --dump|grep -i accept
show nothing on Debian i686.
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795 [05:34:09] <qmr> Teststst: what is your issue, besides your
lack of persistent IRC connection
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797 [05:34:54] <Hello71> i think his shift key is malfunctioning
too
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803 [05:36:11] <trumpy_> o.o
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835 [05:58:58] <lf94> could someone do me huge favor
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837 [05:59:11] <lf94> tell me what files are in /etc/fonts
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840 [05:59:53] <Shadow_7> very few... conf.avil fonts.conf
conf.d/
841 [06:00:09] <lf94> could you give me your fonts.conf
842 [06:00:11] <Shadow_7> it's /usr/share/fonts/ for the
actual fonts
843 [06:00:15] <lf94> For some reason, I cannot regenerate it.
844 [06:00:28] <lf94> What package create fonts.conf?
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847 [06:00:56] <lf94> Shadow_7 I botched the font system
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849 [06:01:07] <Shadow_7> lf94: it's provided by
fontconfig-config...
850 [06:01:11] <lf94> I'm trying to recover it avoiding a
reinstall of debian.
851 [06:01:17] <lf94> Ok great
852 [06:01:19] <Shadow_7> lf94: apt-get install --reinstall
fontconfig-config
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854 [06:02:07] <missmbob> !confmiss
855 [06:02:07] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging
system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is
assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o
DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall
$packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the
package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about
<ucf confmiss>.
856 [06:02:52] <lf94> My line loops way longer than that :D
857 [06:02:54] <lf94> looks
858 [06:03:03] <lf94> sudo apt-get -o
Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o
Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" -o
Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install --reinstall
fontconfig-config
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861 [06:03:14] <lf94> from some stackoverflow answer
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866 [06:06:09] <Shadow_7> you could do a full debootstrap install
with fewer chars than that
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874 [06:12:20] <ASCII-Art> in terms of goatse, where is the lulz
for my flood meth generator?
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876 [06:13:06] <ASCII-Art> into the tavern of dead souls, where
your uncle is to the front of the room. And we don't do
anything like it. We are to be in the elevator now.
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1143 [09:10:30] <kemip> Arya Rising - Inspirational Video
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1216 [09:38:22] <zmitya> hi All. I have a fresh Jessie on my
desktop, using KDE. I have set up the Compose key, but I can not
write UTF-8 chars using that (for example <meta_key> <o>
<o> should write degree sign)
1217 [09:38:29] <zmitya> what did I miss ?
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1234 [09:43:57] <Shadow_7> zmitya: is unicode installed? plus
LC_LANG and LC_ALL set?
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1236 [09:44:45] <themill> zmitya: are you sure that key
combination is ° in your keyboard layout? What application(s)
have you tested it with?
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1248 [09:50:47] <zmitya> themill: I tested it in kate. And I set
the compose key to left win key. I have the same keyboard at my
workplace, using centos7 with KDE and it works..
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1250 [09:50:54] <zmitya> Shadow_7: let me check
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1256 [09:53:42] <zmitya> Shadow_7: I have just installed unicode
pkg. same. This is my locale output:
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1258 [09:54:32] <Shadow_7> zmitya: might also try
$(dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration), maybe it's set to
something slightly different that the one at work.
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1262 [09:56:02] <zmitya> Shadow_7: ok, did it, I need to restart X
1263 [09:56:07] <zmitya> will be back soon
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1270 [09:59:14] <jelly> zmitya: pastebin the output of
"setxkbmap -print" and verify with xev what pressing your
left windows key generates, is it Meta-L or Super-L or what
1271 [09:59:16] <zmitya> did not help :(
1272 [09:59:34] <zmitya> jelly: ok, let me check
1273 [10:00:04] <jelly> Shadow_7: what does "unicode"
package have to do with keymaps?
1274 [10:00:29] <Shadow_7> it allows the international characters
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1277 [10:00:50] <jelly> Shadow_7: its description does not say
that.
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1279 [10:01:06] <jelly> I don't have it installed, and my
Compose key does °
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1281 [10:01:33] <zmitya> jelly:
replaced-url
1282 [10:01:59] <Shadow_7> seems like it's more of a search
utility than a provider
1283 [10:02:22] <Shadow_7> so probably does nothing useful in
context
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1285 [10:03:14] <jelly> Shadow_7: better avoid giving others info
you haven't actually tried out
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1287 [10:03:31] <zmitya> jelly: I did not know this xev thing. My
left win key does not do anything...
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1289 [10:03:59] <zmitya> Shadow_7: should I remove the unicode pkg
?
1290 [10:04:11] <Shadow_7> if you need the space.
1291 [10:04:13] <jelly> zmitya: you need to focus or mouseover the
xev window, do other keys work?
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1293 [10:04:24] <Shadow_7> The pc101 seems odd to me
1294 [10:04:31] <zmitya> jelly: yes, other keys do work
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1297 [10:05:29] <Shadow_7> normally if I need special chars
I'll cut and paste from somewhere like a browser.
1298 [10:05:42] <jelly> zmitya: that is weird, is this a laptop
keyboard or a separate one?
1299 [10:05:48] <zmitya> let me check the keyb type at work pc
1300 [10:06:05] <zmitya> jelly: its a separated one
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1303 [10:06:53] <zmitya> jelly: hm: Cannot open display
"default display"
1304 [10:07:00] <zmitya> so that wont work..
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1306 [10:07:15] <zmitya> let me try to specify a different keyb
somehow
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1308 [10:07:31] <jelly> zmitya: only works within a running X
sessions
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1313 [10:08:04] <jelly> !keymap
1314 [10:08:04] <dpkg> Run "dpkg-reconfigure
keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and
X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap
settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps,
xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>.
1315 [10:08:39] <jelly> zmitya: as Shadow_7 suggests, you might
pick a 105-key variant somewhere instead of 101
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1318 [10:09:13] <Shadow_7> or 104
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1320 [10:09:30] <zmitya> ok
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1322 [10:09:58] <zmitya> do I need to logoff / logon ?
1323 [10:10:02] <zmitya> after the change ?
1324 [10:10:07] <jelly> or even reboot
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1326 [10:10:12] <zmitya> ok
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1328 [10:10:33] <Shadow_7> keyboard things tend to take
immediately, although maybe not X things.
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1339 [10:14:53] <zmitya> did not help :(
1340 [10:15:19] <bweston92> Why would /bin/bash not be available
to my systemd unit on boot? It waits for "network-online"
before it should start.
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1343 [10:15:51] <bweston92> and /bin/bash is not symbolically
linked either
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1345 [10:16:23] <bweston92> Error in journal is: Mar 02 06:10:22
ALMAYER systemd[624]: minio.service: Failed at step USER spawning
/bin/bash: No such file or directory
1346 [10:16:53] <bweston92> However ls produces: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root
root 1099016 Jan 24 15:13 /bin/bash
1347 [10:17:18] <bweston92> Obviously it works when I run a manual
restart on the unit.
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1356 [10:21:11] <themill> bweston92: wrong architecture?
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1368 [10:27:54] <borsin> bweston92: are you specifying a target?
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1380 [10:33:58] <bweston92> borsin:
replaced-url
1381 [10:33:59] <zmitya> jelly, Shadow_7: I tested it with moving
the compose key to AltGr and iot works well with that. So that X
does not see my Left Win key for some reason. And could not find any
model / variant yet where my left win key works :)
1382 [10:34:24] <bweston92> themill: It works once the system has
actually started and I ssh in and restart the service
1383 [10:34:33] <themill> ah, ok
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1390 [10:38:36] <rootkea> Hello! I am using xdm with xfce. How can
I switch user while retaining the previous login? I can see the text
"Switch User" after clicking on the action button. But
clicking on it does nothing.
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1393 [10:39:05] <rootkea> Does switching user work with xdm?
1394 [10:40:01] <borsin> bweston92: if you want it to start after
network-online, then the use of "after" should be enough
and "wants" isn't necessary. I would try that. Wants
as i understand is saying your unit file "wants" this but
you're wanting this started "after" that mentioned
target has run.
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1399 [10:41:27] <jelly> zmitya: does the kernel do anything with
Win-L? run "showkey" in console outside of X
1400 [10:42:36] <bweston92> borsin: I have both a wants and after
1401 [10:42:49] <bweston92> I just want /bin/bash to exist
1402 [10:42:55] <bweston92> I don't understand why it
isn't there
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1405 [10:44:57] <borsin> bweston92: i'm suggesting that your
_wants_ isn't necessary or your unit file may not work because
it's there - i would try it with a _after_ only. i'm
running a much simpler unit with /bin/bash with only the _after_
"network.service" without issue
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1413 [10:46:37] <zmitya> jelly: showkey did not see my key ..
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1423 [10:53:18] <Donquixote> Meh. Why can't I play flv files
in VLC and MPlayer. The sound plays. But the sce
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1425 [10:53:31] <Donquixote> creen is black. I have already
libavconv and toten installed
1426 [10:55:00] <Donquixote> Pls help
1427 [10:55:24] <Shadow_7> Donquixote: what about avplay?
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1430 [10:55:45] <jelly> zmitya: that's kind of bad. Maybe a
newer kernel will have better drivers for your keyboard.
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1435 [10:56:27] <Shadow_7> Maybe it's an Fn type key and only
exists on keyboard
1436 [10:56:28] <Donquixote> It display libavplaysomething.
I'm installing it
1437 [10:57:19] <Donquixote> Shadow_7: It did not help
1438 [10:57:20] <Shadow_7> Donquixote: apt-get install libav-tools
1439 [10:57:44] <Donquixote> That was already installed
1440 [10:57:48] <Shadow_7> Donquixote: what does avprobe say about
the file?
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1443 [10:58:13] <Shadow_7> Technically FLV is "flash"
video, so maybe flash is required
1444 [10:58:14] <zmitya> jelly: at work, I have a Centos7 with
3.10. Jessie has 3.16, so should not be a problem :(
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1446 [10:59:04] <zmitya> jelly, Shadow_7: I have the same keyb at
home and at work .. TESORO TS-G1NL
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1448 [10:59:16] <Donquixote> avprobe version 11.8-6:11.8-1~deb8u1,
Copyright (c) 2007-2016 the Libav developers
1449 [10:59:16] <Donquixote> built on Oct 1 2016 07:16:29 with gcc
4.9.2 (Debian 4.9.2-10)
1450 [10:59:16] <Donquixote> [flv @ 0x82cd20] max_analyze_duration
5000000 reached
1451 [10:59:16] <Donquixote> Input #0, flv, from
'FILE.flv':
1452 [10:59:16] <Donquixote> Metadata:
1453 [10:59:16] <Donquixote> creationdate : Sun Feb 15 10:15:42
2009
1454 [10:59:16] <Donquixote> lasttimestamp : 156
1455 [10:59:16] *** Donquixote was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please
use
replaced-url
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1458 [11:00:22] <jelly> zmitya: RHEL/CentOS backport a lot of
drivers from newer kernels, version number is not necessarily
indicative of featureset there
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1462 [11:00:37] <zmitya> jelly: oh, ok, I see
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1466 [11:01:29] <jelly> zmitya: I'd try a kernel from
jessie-backports for a test, see if there's anything different
1467 [11:01:38] <Donquixote> Shadow_7:
replaced-url
1468 [11:01:40] <jelly> dpkg, tell zmitya about bdo kernel
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1470 [11:01:48] <jelly> dpkg, tell zmitya about jessie-backports
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1472 [11:02:36] <zmitya> jelly: thx
1473 [11:02:45] <Donquixote> It's not just that file though.
YouTube videos in general won't be displayed
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1475 [11:03:02] <Donquixote> And another MP4
1476 [11:03:12] <Donquixote> Someone said MP4 has issues in Jessie
1477 [11:03:15] <zmitya> jelly: btw, what does "3rd level of
Left CTRL" mean ?
1478 [11:03:25] <Donquixote> But MPlayer also doesn't work
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1481 [11:05:05] <Shadow_7> Donquixote: vp6f seems like a problem
format. $ avconv -codecs 2>&1 | grep -i vp6f
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1485 [11:05:35] <jelly> Donquixote: does mpv work?
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1489 [11:06:23] <Shadow_7> Seems to have decode abilities
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1491 [11:06:39] <Donquixote> I don't know. I don't have
an mpv file :x
1492 [11:06:50] <Shadow_7> Donquixote: apt-get install mpv
1493 [11:07:04] <Shadow_7> it's a fork of mplayer / mplayer2
1494 [11:07:04] <Donquixote> mkv doesn't even start with
MPlayer. With VLC, it just plays the audio
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1496 [11:07:40] <Donquixote> I'm installing it
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1500 [11:09:52] <sep> good day, i just upgraded a debian to
stretch; and there must be something very wrong with vi/vim. i have
problems with basic things like cut and paste with middleclick mouse
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1503 [11:11:46] <Donquixote>
replaced-url
1504 [11:12:03] <jelly> sep: does selection copy with left mouse
and paste with middle work in the same terminal outside of vim?
1505 [11:12:08] <sep> works like normal in the shell, so it's
just a problem in vim for some reason
1506 [11:12:12] <Shadow_7> Donquixote: mpv --ao=pulse --vo=opengl
--hwdec=auto --video-zoom=0 --framedrop=vo --no-osc --osd-level=1
./media_file.ext
1507 [11:12:20] <Shadow_7> how I launch mine ^^^
1508 [11:12:45] <Donquixote> I think I'll just get Wine and
VLC. In my experience, Windows versions of many programs work a
fuckton better than their GNU/Linux counterparts, even in Wine
1509 [11:12:51] <jelly> Shadow_7: most of that is autodetected
default, notably ao pulse and vo opengl
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1511 [11:13:32] <Shadow_7> I sometimes use vappi and jackd, easier
to just have it so I can just cursor and change
1512 [11:14:33] <sep> very strange, for some reason, middle click
on mouse acts like 'p' in vi, instead of pasteing what is
in the clipboard it paste what is in vi cliboard
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1515 [11:14:48] <borsin> sep: you are in insert mode when pasting
- assuming you're copying something outside of vim?
1516 [11:15:00] <sep> borsin, indeed
1517 [11:15:20] <Donquixote> I'd like to know: Can I somehow
put my Debian in the state of a newly installed KDE desktop, with
only my browser and icedove settings, as well as openbox, being
intact? Without newinstallation?
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1519 [11:15:38] <jelly> Donquixote: create a new user?
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1521 [11:15:58] <jelly> and copy over desired config
1522 [11:16:08] <jelly> and copy desired config over*
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1524 [11:16:19] <Donquixote> No, I mean, I'd like to remove
any unnecessary packages, such as the media ones I've installed
now
1525 [11:16:35] <Donquixote> I installed my Debian with LXDE and
added Xfce a few days later
1526 [11:16:44] <Donquixote> I'd like to get rig of them and
switch to KDE
1527 [11:16:58] <Donquixote> With removing every unnecessary
package such as PCManFM and Thunar
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1531 [11:18:03] <jelly> Donquixote: remove the xfce metapackages
you installed manually, and hope aptitude or apt pick up most of the
now unneeded dependencies
1532 [11:19:00] <Donquixote> What about LXDE?
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1536 [11:20:31] <sep> the mouse issue in vim seams to have been a
bug, but the bug is closed,
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1537 [11:20:32] <judd> Bug
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1546 [11:24:45] <Shadow_7> Donquixote: looks like opengGL
isn't working right on your system
1547 [11:24:56] <Shadow_7> Donquixote: try --vo=x11 for mpv
1548 [11:25:32] <Donquixote> And how do I fix that? =(
1549 [11:25:40] <Donquixote> I need OpenGL for Emulators
1550 [11:25:53] <Shadow_7> Donquixote: probably missing packages
or user is not in the video group
1551 [11:26:20] <Donquixote> What packages? How can I add myself
in to the group?
1552 [11:26:29] <sep> borsin, jelly , one actualy have to add a
string like let g:skip_defaults_vim = 1 to get sane vim again.
1553 [11:26:42] <jelly> Donquixote: same thing but with
task-lxde-desktop package, I guess
1554 [11:26:46] <sep> to /etc/vim/vimrc
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1556 [11:27:03] <Shadow_7> Donquixote: $(groups) to see what
groups... apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx mesa-utils &&
glxinfo | grep -i direct
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1558 [11:27:52] <Shadow_7> should say YES for direct rendering if
things are good. And glxgears should show gears.
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1561 [11:28:47] <Donquixote> Yes for direct rendering. glxgears
displayed a memory access error
1562 [11:29:00] <jelly> Shadow_7: libgl1-mesa-glx contains the
software rendering stuff, libgl1-mesa-dri is for hardware
1563 [11:29:18] <jelly> and that's for free drivers
1564 [11:29:39] <Shadow_7> should be grabbed as a dep? no?
1565 [11:29:48] <jelly> no
1566 [11:29:59] <jelly> judd: depends libgl1-mesa-glx
1567 [11:30:00] <judd> Package libgl1-mesa-glx in jessie/amd64 --
depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libdrm2 (>= 2.3.1), libexpat1 (>=
2.0.1), libglapi-mesa (= 10.3.2-1+deb8u1), libx11-6 (>=
2:1.4.99.1), libx11-xcb1, libxcb-dri2-0 (>= 1.8), libxcb-dri3-0,
libxcb-glx0 (>= 1.8), libxcb-present0, libxcb-sync1, libxcb1
(>= 1.9.2), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3,
libxshmfence1, libxxf86vm1, libudev1,multiarch-support.
1568 [11:30:17] <jelly> judd: recommends libgl1-mesa-glx
1569 [11:30:18] <judd> Package libgl1-mesa-glx in jessie/amd64 --
recommends: libgl1-mesa-dri (>= 7.2).
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1571 [11:30:25] <jelly> or maybe yes
1572 [11:30:33] <Shadow_7> You still need the software part
though. Not all rendering needs are handled by hardware. At least
for most cards I've seen (low end)
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1574 [11:35:01] <afx_> Hello! I would like to disable bluetooth on
boot . Should I use this
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1577 [11:36:30] <Shadow_7> afx_: do you still want to use it at
all? bluez is the package that provides the thing for it.
1578 [11:37:12] <afx_> Shadow_7, I am having problems using it
correctly , so I guess I wouldnt mind using it at all
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1580 [11:37:34] <Shadow_7> define "problems"
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1582 [11:37:53] <afx_> Shadow_7, connecting problems
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1584 [11:38:08] <Shadow_7> sometimes successful? or never?
1585 [11:38:37] <afx_> My phone is rarely discovered and if so ,
once I start the transfer the bt on my laptop turns off
1586 [11:39:35] <Shadow_7> signal strength issue? or more likely
to be the driver.
1587 [11:39:56] <afx_> or once if discovered I can't turn it
on , i.e. it turns automatically off
1588 [11:40:24] <Shadow_7> Maybe you're holding it wrong (j/k
old apple quote)
1589 [11:40:26] <afx_> how can I find out if the driver works
correctly
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1592 [11:41:14] <Shadow_7> afx_: might be things in dmesg that say
that it's doing stuff. like missing firmware or disconnecting a
lot. Otherwise /var/log/ stuffs or journalctl
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1594 [11:41:52] <anddam> hello
1595 [11:42:00] <Shadow_7> or google for others with issues on the
vender:device number.
1596 [11:42:07] <afx_> Shadow_7,
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1597 [11:42:29] <afx_> SerialNumber: Alaska Day 2006 , hahaha
1598 [11:42:30] <afx_> wtf
1599 [11:43:27] <Shadow_7> afx_: idVendor=13d3, idProduct=3362
...so google for... 13d3:3362
1600 [11:44:02] <Shadow_7> seems to have tx issues... aka
transfer, so your device sending
1601 [11:44:49] <afx_> Shadow_7, yes I was trying to send a file
currently
1602 [11:45:07] <afx_> how shall I disable it if I get no solution
?
1603 [11:45:49] <Shadow_7> afx_:
replaced-url
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1605 [11:46:36] <Shadow_7> just a workaround though. and probably
a driver issue. maybe improved drivers on github? idk
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1608 [11:47:18] <Shadow_7> could be firmware? don't know as
I've never actually used bluetooth. My laptop has a chipset,
but I have no devices.
1609 [11:47:27] <afx_> is ath3k only for bt?
1610 [11:47:48] <Shadow_7> normally wifi and bt are on the same
chip
1611 [11:48:10] <Shadow_7> aka in my case, rtl8723be where be ==
bluetooth enabled
1612 [11:48:44] <Shadow_7> And things like lp == low power
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1614 [11:49:15] <Shadow_7> or was it just l after the device name.
1615 [11:49:29] <afx_> its on the same chip on mine too
1616 [11:49:30] <Shadow_7> with lp being ram and low profile
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1619 [11:49:48] <afx_> so I am wondering if there is a way to
disable only bt
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1621 [11:50:59] <Shadow_7> afx_: the ath3k being the wifi and
bluetooth. the btusb being that bluez bridge. perhaps btusb loads
before ath3k and things get odd
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1623 [11:51:50] <Shadow_7> afx_: uninstalling bluez and
blacklisting btusb would probably work
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1626 [11:53:00] <Shadow_7> in my case I've heard that
bluetooth doesn't work with the open driver, but does with the
manufacturers driver. But like I said I don't have anyway to
test that, no devices so no need.
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1630 [11:53:19] <afx_> ok I will try to blacklist btusb
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1633 [11:54:05] <Shadow_7> afx_: you could always modprobe -r
after boot. or delete the module from the kernel /lib/modules/...
although updates would put it back
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1635 [11:55:03] <Shadow_7> not having bluez installed would
probably help
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1640 [11:56:11] <Shadow_7> hardly best practices though
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1654 [12:04:04] <afx_> Shadow_7, sudo modprobe -r btusb ?
1655 [12:04:18] <afx_> how can I check if the module is unloaded?
1656 [12:04:34] <afx_> removed
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1677 [12:14:19] <zykotick9> afx_: using "lsmod" will
list what modules are currently loaded
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1680 [12:14:36] <veek> why doesn't the i686 arch have socket
or connect in the system call table?
1681 [12:14:50] <veek> it's availiable on x86_64 but not i686
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1708 [12:33:40] <afx_> thnak you zykotick9
1709 [12:33:46] <afx_> thank*
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1739 [12:47:34] <Donquixote> All operating systems are garbage.
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1743 [12:48:36] <veek> Donquixote, die! die! :p
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1745 [12:49:40] <Donquixote> I might. In a few hours I will
receive a nitrogen tank. Then I can put on my Exit Bag and die on a
whim.
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1748 [12:50:58] <veek> shame on you
1749 [12:51:09] <veek> donate organs :p
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1751 [12:51:33] <Donquixote> I won't.
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1755 [12:52:23] <themill> perhaps you wanted ##chat
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1777 [13:01:26] <menace> Hi, i have no audio on debian jessie in
firefox, but with a local video with vlc i have audio.. i do not
find any current bugs/links when googling with "debian jessie
firefox no sound". does anyone have a hint what to do/what to
look for?
1778 [13:01:50] <veek> gosh! i had a lot of problem with audio
1779 [13:04:00] <veek> try aplayanyway firefox uses pulse which
sends to alsa
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1784 [13:05:49] <menace> aplayanyway?
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1786 [13:06:02] <menace> i cannot find it in the repo or with
google?
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1797 [13:09:41] <dontknow> i get sound from firefox without
pulseaudio
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1804 [13:12:18] <veek> you don't need the pkg, but i suspect
you need libpulse (it's either statically linked in or dynamic)
that's what the guys on #firefox told me (anyway that was not
the problem with my box)
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1806 [13:12:54] <veek> ldd didn't show anything so..
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1830 [13:21:46] <rafalcpp> is Qt at least 5.6.0 provided in debian
stable?
1831 [13:22:11] <rafalcpp> I wonder what package can it mean to
install, for Project ERROR: Use at least Qt 5.6.0.
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1837 [13:23:52] <veek> libqt5core5a:i386 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2
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1839 [13:24:37] <veek> dpkg -l|grep tells you
1840 [13:24:37] <dpkg> veek: parse error: dunno what the heck
you're talking about
1841 [13:24:48] <veek> heh
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1846 [13:27:19] <rafalcpp> and 5.6 is not in backports either?
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1848 [13:27:38] <rafalcpp> (I searched on
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1879 [13:41:09] <Donquixote> A chrome app did the job. I cannot
play mp4 within VLC, Mplayer oder Dragon Player, but in a fucking
chrome extension.
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1882 [13:41:50] <missmbob> Donquixote: vlc in stable has known
bugs. try mpv
1883 [13:42:04] <Donquixote> Doesn't work either
1884 [13:42:09] <Donquixote> No native Player works
1885 [13:42:19] <Donquixote> Minitube also doesn't
1886 [13:42:25] <Donquixote> Just JavaScript gets the job done
1887 [13:42:29] <Donquixote> Fucking JavaScript
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1894 [13:45:49] <Donquixote> I wonder if I should just abandon
desktops alltogether and use chrome for everything
1895 [13:46:01] <Donquixote> Chrome and emulators
1896 [13:46:05] <Donquixote> *chromium
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1907 [13:54:11] <hanshenrik> when i `apt-get install ffmpeg` , why
does it try to install libav?
1908 [13:54:36] <missmbob> !libav
1909 [13:54:36] <dpkg> Libav is a complete, cross-platform
solution to record, convert and stream audio and video. Libav is a
fork of <FFmpeg> and replaces it in the Debian 7 Wheezy and 8
Jessie releases. Multithreaded decoding is available since libav
4:0.7~rc1-1 (bug #575600); MP3 encoding support is available since
libav 4:0.7.1-2 (bug #587904).
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1910 [13:54:52] <missmbob> hanshenrik: ffmpeg is in
jessie-backports if you want it
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1912 [13:55:47] <hanshenrik> im actually using debian 9 stretch,
but can't join #debian-next for some reason
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1915 [13:56:00] <missmbob> #debian-next is on oftc, not freenode
1916 [13:56:09] <hanshenrik> oh thanks
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1918 [13:56:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
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1920 [13:56:43] <missmbob> the libav part still applies. just not
jessie-backports :P
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1932 [14:03:28] <Brski> I'm running 'sudo -u
replaced-url
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1936 [14:04:12] <veek> it's not suid
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1938 [14:05:09] <themill> !sudo redirection
1939 [14:05:10] <dpkg> <sudo> can run a command as root but
what is a "command"? "sudo foo > /etc/bar"
will give you "-bash: /etc/bar: Permission denied". Your
shell splits "sudo foo > /etc/bar" into "run the
command sudo with the argument foo" and then "stick the
output into /etc/bar"; it's your own shell (not sudo!)
that will create /etc/bar and it doesn't have permission to do
so. Use «su -», «sudo -i», «foo | sudo
tee /etc/bar».
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1941 [14:05:20] <themill> veek: suid has nothing to do with this
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1946 [14:06:23] <jelly> technically, the shell first prepares the
" > /etc/bar" part then runs whatever command
1947 [14:06:24] <veek> ah - ty
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1971 [14:12:48] <stoned_> How long will debian jessie be supported
for after stretch release
1972 [14:13:05] <stoned_> I forgot the oldstable support time
lengh
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1985 [14:16:27] <zmitya> stoned_:
replaced-url
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1988 [14:17:32] <stoned_> zmitya: I do not like the new softwares
in stretch
1989 [14:17:48] <stoned_> I tried out the strech debian and it has
new things and I don't like them.
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1991 [14:18:28] <BluesKaj> what don't you like ?
1992 [14:18:45] <stoned_> new versions of desktop and application
softwares.
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1995 [14:18:55] <jord> hiya
1996 [14:19:24] <jord> just wanted to ask -- is there a way of
creating a livedvd with persistence, specifically on the dvd?
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1998 [14:19:32] <BluesKaj> stoned_, well it is a
"testing" version after all
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2000 [14:19:33] <jord> afaik puppylinux can do it
2001 [14:20:16] <stoned_> BluesKaj: doesn't matter.
2002 [14:20:19] <BluesKaj> !persistence
2003 [14:20:33] <tw> with the persistence stored ON the dvd? I
know how you would technically do it, but that seems super weird.
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2005 [14:20:40] <BluesKaj> guess there's no info bots ?
2006 [14:20:40] <jord> tw, yeah
2007 [14:21:00] <jord> dvd's are way cheaper than usbs, and
I've got a ton of them
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2009 [14:21:14] <stoned_> tw: why is it weird?
2010 [14:21:33] <stoned_> usually people mean live iso image, not
actually a physical dvd rom.
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2012 [14:21:45] <tw> stoned_: No, he means on optical media.
2013 [14:21:48] <stoned_> and I'm assuming it's going to
be used on a usb, where persistence is possible.
2014 [14:21:50] <stoned_> does he?
2015 [14:21:53] <stoned_> why not confirm?
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2017 [14:22:08] <BluesKaj> stoned_, I like it, have no trouble so
far except a segfault when closing konversation
2018 [14:22:13] <jord> I'll re-iterate, I've got a ton
of dvds and I'm too poor to buy a usb ;)
2019 [14:22:25] <stoned_> jord: ask for one.
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2021 [14:22:32] <jord> stoned_, not persistence on the usb
2022 [14:22:34] <stoned_> jord: you have friends?
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2024 [14:23:02] <jord> I do
2025 [14:23:10] <jord> but I've got dvd's too!
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2027 [14:23:28] <jord> afaik puppy does this by running in ram and
then saving back to the dvd
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2030 [14:23:53] <stoned_> jord: how is it saved back to the DVD
rom w/o actually burning to the DVD media?
2031 [14:23:55] <tw> jord: you'd extend the UDF image with
your changes from your tmpfs or ramdisk. I don't know of any
live image that does this aside from what you've mentioned.
Optical media's immutability property is the only thing keeping
it around for the majority of users.
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2033 [14:24:13] <tw> when syncing the persistance to disk.
2034 [14:24:26] <BluesKaj> i bought three 16Gb USB sticks from
amazon for 25bucks
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2037 [14:24:44] <stoned_> I have the pefectest idea
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2039 [14:25:19] <stoned_> I will just stick with jessie for
however long
2040 [14:25:28] <stoned_> I think I read somehwere 2020, I hope
that's correct.
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2042 [14:25:36] <stoned_> That's another 3 years. I'm
happy w/ that. Not greedy.
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2045 [14:26:04] <jord> hmm
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2047 [14:26:19] <jord> puppylinux does it like this:
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2048 [14:26:23] <stoned_> I don't like the new versions of
stuff in the new debian. Too many changes. The configs are saved in
diff place. It won't even use my kate editor settings
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2050 [14:26:49] <stoned_> the new kde probably doesn't even
have the same config place, I dunno, it all looks different,
it's just... I don't wann.
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2052 [14:27:06] <BluesKaj> stoned_, it's probly plasma 5 that
you don't like, and it dropped some neat features that were
available on plasma4
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2054 [14:27:13] <stoned_> Too many changes. I was hoping, just
that application would be updated, and I would not have to
reconfigure everything.
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2057 [14:28:03] <stoned_> BluesKaj: I only use a few kde
applications, mostly only urxvrt, xmonad, chrome (for netflix),
konqueror (file browser, with previews/plugins), kate (I like this
editor).
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2059 [14:28:27] <stoned_> When I go to the new debian, all of of
it looks different, none of the configs from my ~ is are affecting
it's just really diffrent
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2062 [14:28:51] <stoned_> Usually I just install a debian and it
takes my settings from /home/stoned and I don' thave to really
do anything but just install packages.
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2064 [14:28:55] <stoned_> and copy my config files.
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2066 [14:29:12] <tw> Not sure about kde, but I noticed a lot of
stuff becoming more freedesktop compliant with their config files.
2067 [14:29:13] <stoned_> Now it seems I would have to reconfigure
all my desktop apps.. b/c they have a new kde which probably stores
things diff place.
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2069 [14:29:22] <hanshenrik_> are the libav guys intentionally
sabotaging the ffmpeg binary? the current stretch ffmpeg binary,
when given "ffmpeg -i foo.jpg bar.jpg", will rotate the
picture 90 degrees
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2072 [14:29:50] <stoned_> tw: that's probably good, but diff
from kde4 to kde5 (jessie to stretch) cuasing a lot of
'differences' in my setup
2073 [14:30:07] <stoned_> not only is it slightly confusing to
find out most of my daily apps require reconfig.
2074 [14:30:09] <tw> #debian-next is the place for that.
2075 [14:30:14] <stoned_> but also tedious.
2076 [14:30:21] <stoned_> tw: I back on stable jessie.
2077 [14:30:26] <BluesKaj> stoned_, yeah kde/plasma5 is quite
different than 4 the default theme for example is silly IMO ,but
it's easily changed , no separate backgrounds for VDs etc
2078 [14:30:30] <stoned_> I just wanted to share my experience.
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2080 [14:30:32] <jord> hmm
2081 [14:30:33] <tw> hanshenrik_: check bugs for ffmpeg, and file
one if it's not there.
2082 [14:30:42] <jord> using puppylinux would be easier I guess
2083 [14:30:59] <jord> or messing around with antiX, since it
already boots from ram
2084 [14:31:03] <stoned_> BluesKaj: I don't use plasma. Just
xmonad.
2085 [14:31:14] <stoned_> I wonder, is there a way to build a
custom debian iso w/ only the packages I want?
2086 [14:31:15] <BluesKaj> oh
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2088 [14:31:23] <stoned_> I didn't use debian for a few years
and I forgot somethings
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2091 [14:32:26] <BluesKaj> xmonad is window manager not a desktopo
, but I get your drift
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2093 [14:32:33] <stoned_> yup
2094 [14:32:38] <stoned_> xmoand wm, plus just a few kde apps.
2095 [14:32:49] <stoned_> That's all I use. Everything else
is cli
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2099 [14:34:19] <BluesKaj> I use the termianl for maintaining the
OS packagewise etc, but I do like dolphin and kate for most tasks
and I use muon as a package reference guide
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2102 [14:34:40] <BluesKaj> terminal even
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2105 [14:36:08] <BluesKaj> and kwin works for me
2106 [14:36:34] <stoned_> what is a muon
2107 [14:36:58] <stoned_> BluesKaj: kwin isn't a wm.
It's doesn't manage windows. You do.
2108 [14:37:03] <stoned_> :)
2109 [14:37:19] <stoned_> xmonad manages my windows. I don't.
because I'm not a wm.
2110 [14:37:21] <stoned_> I'm a person.
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2112 [14:37:48] <stoned_> if a wm has window borders, controls,
draggble stuff, title bars, handles, it's not a wm, it's
just goofy.
2113 [14:37:59] <stoned_> it makes users do all the work.
2114 [14:38:09] <stoned_> I don't think it's right, but
anyway. that's neither here nor there.
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2120 [14:38:49] <tw> Your definition of WM in regard to decorators
is vastly different from a majority of users.
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2122 [14:39:02] <stoned_> tw: not just.
2123 [14:39:08] <BluesKaj> stoned_, kwin is classified as a wm in
X
2124 [14:39:15] <stoned_> not by me! :D
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2130 [14:40:32] <BluesKaj> heh, well, that's an opinion then
2131 [14:41:33] <stoned_> I don't have a debian machine right
now, but i need to make a custom debian iso, w/o access to a debian
system
2132 [14:41:35] <stoned_> any idea how?
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2136 [14:42:38] <tw> debootstrap
2137 [14:42:40] <BluesKaj> what about netinstall
2138 [14:42:45] <stoned_> I'm on windows
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2140 [14:43:16] <tw> xmonad doesn't run on windows.
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2144 [14:43:47] <stoned_> Right. I wanted to make a custom debian
installer cd w/ base system + whatever packages and their
dependenceis I use.
2145 [14:43:57] <stoned_> then install the debian.
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2147 [14:44:23] <stoned_> cusotmCD req acces to a debian systme
already
2148 [14:44:25] <stoned_> !customcd
2149 [14:44:29] <stoned_>
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2153 [14:46:08] <tw> make a VM.
2154 [14:46:21] <foo357> Hello, I'm trying to get an .inputrc
binding to work on a debian box. Usually I use a rhel/centos box and
it works fine there... the keybinding is: "\C- ": 'cd
.. \015' (Ctrl+<space> to '..' )
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2157 [14:47:06] <foo357> When I try it on the debian computer
nothing much happens.
2158 [14:47:12] <abishai> hello guys
2159 [14:47:26] <abishai> I must be one of the few, but I really
like Systemd
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2163 [14:48:13] <abishai> is it possible to remove cron, atd, and
any remnants of SysV init from Debian 8?
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2165 [14:48:52] <abishai> any other systemd fans out there?
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2171 [14:50:20] <altyr> systemd-cron is your friend
2172 [14:50:45] <abishai> I'd prefer to have everything in
timer units
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2175 [14:52:30] <abishai> but when looking at cron.daily it seems
hell of a lot of work to convert to timer units
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2178 [14:53:17] <abishai> this sucks, make it either full systemd
or full SysV init, having both is bloaty
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2180 [14:54:04] <petn-randall> abishai: Let us know how it goes.
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2190 [14:56:06] <hades099> Hi, i need some help with xrdp and
xfce4
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2192 [14:57:07] <tw> I'd think making a perl script to
convert crontab syntax to OnCalendar syntax, that'd be the
majority of the work. Then testing the hell out of it. I'm sure
I'm missing a ton of other stuff like environment, shell, runas
user, etc.
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2195 [14:58:38] <hades099> im trying to connect to a linux desktop
that is using sesman x11rdp without vnc server but it s not working
, anyone can help me ?
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2215 [15:06:01] <iresf> i have installed openconnect on ubuntu
16.04 to before that i used sudo /sbin/modprobe tun and when i
restart the system it automatically connect to cisco account
2216 [15:06:04] <iresf> how to disable it ?
2217 [15:06:46] <petn-randall> hi iresf, for Ubuntu support please
ask in #ubuntu
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2221 [15:08:46] <jelly> abishai: cron and atd have nothing to do
with sysvinit, these are separate components and different
functionality
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2225 [15:09:46] <abishai> jelly: yes but they have overlaping
functionality to systemd, I'd prefer having only systemd
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2232 [15:12:16] <jelly> abishai: add the missing functionality to
the packages you use?
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2236 [15:13:00] <abishai> jelly: yeah.. that will be a long
weekend :p
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2277 [15:32:15] <Milchy> Im completely new to linux, I've
decided to play with it on a virtual box, installed this cpanel type
package called vestacp (it includes webserver stuff like apache,
ftp, etc etc.). The problem is the virtualbox (with all its running
software onboard) is on accesible from the internet on port 8083
(which is the vestacp panel login), stuff is also running on ports
80, 21, 443, but its not
2278 [15:32:16] <Milchy> accesible and i DONT KNOW WHY :( please
help
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2285 [15:34:39] <petn-randall> !cpanel
2286 [15:34:39] <dpkg> cPanel is a proprietary web hosting control
panel. Ask me about <free whcp> for alternatives.
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2289 [15:35:45] <petn-randall> Milchy: I personally wouldn't
recommend cpanel for various reasons. But regarding your problem of
several ports not being accessible, you probably have to ask in the
virtualbox channel how to forward them properly to be accessible
from the outside.
2290 [15:35:54] <petn-randall> Milchy: Which host OS are you
using?
2291 [15:36:04] <Milchy> the problem is port 8083 is accesible
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2293 [15:36:17] <Milchy> if tryed forwarding ports 80 21 443 to
8083 and its working
2294 [15:36:30] <Milchy> but if they are fowarded to the same
values, e.g., 80 to 80, 21 to 21
2295 [15:36:32] <Milchy> then its not working
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2297 [15:37:00] <Milchy> i have win10, running vbox with debian
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2300 [15:38:02] <Milchy> so im really lost on whats wrong here
2301 [15:38:25] <petn-randall> !virtualbox
2302 [15:38:25] <dpkg> Oracle VM VirtualBox is an almost free
software virtual machine solution. To install, see
replaced-url
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2305 [15:38:46] <petn-randall> Milchy: I recommend asking in this
channel ^^^. Your port forwarding issues are not related to the
guest OS.
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2307 [15:39:12] <Milchy> but the vbox is passing the connection on
to the linux
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2310 [15:39:33] <Milchy> else, why would 80 forwarded to 8083
work, but 80 to 80 not?
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2315 [15:40:08] <Shadow_7> Milchy: you need to be root priviledge
to outbound to ports < 1024
2316 [15:40:23] <Milchy> Shadow_7 what does that mean exactly
2317 [15:40:39] <Milchy> i want thoes ports to be accesible for
everyone, as its a kinda webserver
2318 [15:40:47] <Shadow_7> many things don't run as root, by
design
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2321 [15:42:07] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: What webserver are you
using?
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2324 [15:42:55] <Milchy> apache i guess
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2327 [15:44:41] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: What are you using to
forward?
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2331 [15:45:41] <Milchy> well the stuff thats on vbox (nat) and
iptables on linux, though im not sure if its set up good on linux as
i have no idea whats going on there, but i assume the package itself
should have addedd acception for those ports automaticaly
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2343 [15:48:16] <Milchy>
replaced-url
2344 [15:48:20] <Milchy> my iptables file
2345 [15:48:49] <Milchy> 80 is in there, and it looks the same as
8083, which works
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2348 [15:50:37] <riccoo> hello, i have dell studio 1555. When I
close laptop lid system works but screen doesn't turn off. How
to do that the screen turn off when I close laptop lid(system must
work)? It will save more power.
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2351 [15:51:42] <petn-randall> riccoo: If you're running a
desktop, you usually can change the settings in power management to
turn off the screen on lid close.
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2357 [15:54:51] <riccoo> petn-randall no, i'm not using a
desktop. Only command line
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2373 [16:02:36] <riccoo> anyone can help me?
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2381 [16:04:39] <riccoo> petn-randall ?
2382 [16:04:52] <petn-randall> riccoo: If I knew, I'd
respond.
2383 [16:05:11] <petn-randall> riccoo: Have a little patience,
it's only been 15 minutes since you asked.
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2385 [16:06:21] <riccoo> i'm sorry :)
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2413 [16:16:24] <Shadow_7> riccoo: you can pre-shut it off....
xbacklight -set 0% && xset dmps force off
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2417 [16:17:06] <Shadow_7> although it might be hard to restore if
you don't have a hotkey setup to open a terminal
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2423 [16:18:05] <Shadow_7> but switching to a console and back
normally undo's the state. Cntrl+Alt+F# + Alt+F#
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2444 [16:29:08] <jhutchins_wk> Can a disk be removed from an LVM
group without loosing data?
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2447 [16:30:13] <Shadow_7> idk, you can shrink them iirc
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2458 [16:34:46] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, pvmove then vgreduce.
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2460 [16:34:51] <jelly> jhutchins_wk: yes, provided there's
enough space to move data off the PV(s) on that disk
2461 [16:35:04] <jhutchins_wk> Right, I'll add the new volume
first.
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2464 [16:35:26] <jhutchins_wk> ...although I think there's
space, it's a strange layout: 3G, 2G, 80G.
2465 [16:35:42] <jhutchins_wk> Pretty sure there's 5G free on
the 80.
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2467 [16:36:08] <jelly> pastebin the outputs of "pvs"
and "vgs" maybe for a free estimate!
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2472 [16:36:48] <jhutchins_wk> Thanks, we'll work it out.
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2477 [16:40:29] <jhutchins_wk> I must've misread something,
now it's not looking like that.
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2492 [16:42:43] <DaemeonZane> join #bash
2493 [16:42:46] <DaemeonZane> shit
2494 [16:42:48] <DaemeonZane> lol
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2499 [16:43:35] <asterismo> hi
2500 [16:43:45] <asterismo> i need help with something
2501 [16:44:14] <spooky> can someone tell me what's happening
to my xchat and hexchat? i'm using debian gnome and every 2
weeks or so, hexchat and xchat will just close down. no reason at
all. even when i'm not using it. is there something i can check
to see why this is happening, is there a way to fix it?
2502 [16:44:39] <asterismo> i have a PC that i use as a server,
and i have two networking cards, the onboard realtek 8111 gigabit
ethernet and the wlan0 tp-link pcie card
2503 [16:44:48] <petn-randall> spooky: You could start it on the
command line, and see if it segfaults.
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2506 [16:45:20] <asterismo> i was using the wifi card but both
devices eth0 (gigabit realtek ethernet) and wlan0 (tp-link wifi pci
card) were listed in ifconfig
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2508 [16:45:30] <spooky> petn-randall: unfortunately i'm new
to linux and don't know how to do that
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2511 [16:45:35] <spooky> or what segfaults means
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2513 [16:45:59] <asterismo> then after i booted into a root
recovery once, the eth0 device dissapeared, and it does not even
appears in the 'lspci' output
2514 [16:46:01] <asterismo> any ideas
2515 [16:46:04] <asterismo> ??
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2517 [16:46:06] <petn-randall> spooky: You just open a terminal
and start it from there. If it closes, you'll usually see an
error message on the command line.
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2523 [16:46:40] <spooky> petn-randall: okay. but it closes after a
few weeks. so if it doesn't close immediately i just keep the
terminal up?
2524 [16:46:52] <petn-randall> spooky: yes, sure.
2525 [16:47:00] <spooky> ok thnx
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2528 [16:47:18] <jhutchins_wk> spooky: It could be that their logs
are getting too big.
2529 [16:47:20] <asterismo> long story short, i used to have wlan0
and eth0 and after booting into a recovery, i lost eth0 onboard lan
and the system wont detect it, does not list on ifconfig
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2531 [16:47:52] <spooky> jhutchins_wk: even if i'm not
keeping logs? is there a way to avoid this?
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2533 [16:48:14] <jhutchins_wk> spooky: I'm not familiar with
either of those apps, I use irssi which is pretty solid.
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2535 [16:48:28] <spooky> omg
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2537 [16:48:29] <spooky> haha
2538 [16:48:42] <spooky> everytime i have a problem with an irc
program someone recommends another
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2540 [16:48:49] <spooky> i guess i will try irssi next :S
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2542 [16:50:00] <catbehemoth> Need someone to confirm to me that
if I install a backported kernel on jessie I can still boot from the
regular kernel as well? (new kernel is supposed to help with docker
so I am willing to try, but dont want to be stuck with the new one
if it doesnt resolve my problem)
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2548 [16:51:01] <mtn> catbehemoth: yes, you can
2549 [16:51:15] <petn-randall> catbehemoth: Yes, it'll just
install a 2nd kernel next to the first. You'll have an option
to pick the old kernel from grub.
2550 [16:52:39] <catbehemoth> petn-randall: and removing it will
be as easy as apt-get purge linux-iamge....
2551 [16:52:42] <catbehemoth> ?
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2555 [16:53:24] <petn-randall> catbehemoth: yes, just pick the
right kernel to purge ;)
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2559 [16:56:18] <Milchy> i wonder if my problem could be that
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2561 [16:56:35] <Milchy> the 8083 port is working, because in the
netstat i see that thing listening on 0.0.0.0 8083
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2563 [16:56:46] <Milchy> while the :80 thingy is listening... on
some weird ass ip
2564 [16:56:59] <petn-randall> define "weird ass ip"
2565 [16:57:08] <Milchy> 10.0.2.17
2566 [16:57:16] <Milchy> doesnt look like 127.0.0.1
2567 [16:57:21] <Milchy> or 192.168.0.x type
2568 [16:57:26] <Milchy> what the hell is it
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2570 [16:57:41] <asterismo> is there anyway to run the network
hardware detection in the system again?
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2572 [16:57:55] <asterismo> maybe i have some module missing?
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2574 [16:58:04] <petn-randall> Milchy:
replaced-url
2575 [16:58:26] <petn-randall> Milchy: If it was 127.0.0.1 you
wouldn't be able to access it from the host since that is the
loopback address.
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2578 [16:58:43] <Milchy> well i want to change it to 0.0.0.0 and
see what happens
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2581 [16:58:53] <Milchy> though i have no idea where i can do that
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2585 [17:01:46] <jhutchins_wk> asterismo: If lspci doesn't
see an unidentified device chances are the hardware has failed.
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2592 [17:04:42] <jhutchins_wk> asterismo: Doesn't show up
with ifconfig -a?
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2594 [17:04:59] <riccoo> Shadow_7: RANDR Query Version returned
error -1
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2596 [17:05:38] <Shadow_7> riccoo: which command? xbacklight?
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2600 [17:06:51] <asterismo> jhutchins_wk: no
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2602 [17:07:19] <Shadow_7> asterismo: do you have missing
firmware? $ dmesg | grep -i firm
2603 [17:07:33] <asterismo> jhutchins_wk: but it was until
yesterday and the machine has not been subjected to any bad
practice, it was everything after the recovery boot
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2607 [17:08:41] <asterismo> Shadow_7:
replaced-url
2608 [17:09:01] <asterismo> jhutchins_wk: it does not show in
ifconfig -a
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2610 [17:09:08] <asterismo> it dissapeared!
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2612 [17:10:22] <Shadow_7> usb connected? unplug replug?
2613 [17:10:53] <catbehemoth> petn-randall: thanks
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2615 [17:11:08] <asterismo> Shadow_7: me? i have a Tenda usb wifi
now, because i cannot use the ethernet card
2616 [17:11:26] <asterismo> that is the firmware shown in dmesg
2617 [17:11:56] <Shadow_7> firmware from package firmware-ralink
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2622 [17:13:26] <asterismo> Shadow_7: i installed it
2623 [17:13:29] <asterismo> and nothing
2624 [17:13:43] <Shadow_7> I have a linksys usb3 gig ethernet. Two
actually. One of them tends to get hot and goes away, until you
unplug and replug it. At least on windows
2625 [17:13:47] <asterismo> does it store firmware in
/lib/firmware?
2626 [17:14:31] <asterismo> i have the Realtek onboard gigabit
ethernet of this card, ASUS M5A99X-EVO
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2628 [17:14:52] <petn-randall> Milchy: Woops, that should have
been
replaced-url
2629 [17:15:22] <Shadow_7> asterismo: probably firmware-realtek
for that one
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2631 [17:15:35] <asterismo> Shadow_7: yes, and i have it installed
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2633 [17:15:57] <Shadow_7> should show up in lspci or lsusb
depending on where it's connected
2634 [17:15:59] <asterismo> sudo apt-get install firmware-realtek
--reinstall ==
2635 [17:16:01] <asterismo> ??
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2638 [17:16:26] <asterismo> should i try a backported
kernel?¡
2639 [17:16:31] <Shadow_7> asterismo: if you're at that
stage, your filesystem has failed you. or you've done naughty
things
2640 [17:16:58] <Milchy> goddamn it, i still cant reach it =/
2641 [17:16:59] <asterismo> Shadow_7: lol
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2644 [17:17:14] <Shadow_7> asterismo: you might try git -ing the
latest firmware from kernel.org and swapping it out for that.
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2646 [17:17:42] <Shadow_7> my rtl8723be needs newer firmware than
debian provides to be useful longer than two hours
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2648 [17:18:39] <jhutchins_wk> asterismo: If it's not showing
up firmware isn't going to make a difference.
2649 [17:19:10] <asterismo>
replaced-url
2650 [17:19:16] <asterismo> Realtek® 8111E , 1 x Gigabit LAN
2651 [17:19:26] <jhutchins_wk> asterismo: I would investigate the
hardware. Check the BIOS, check for a kill switch (rfkill _might_
see it if it's off).
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2653 [17:19:34] <asterismo> will see if i have all these files
2654 [17:19:36] <asterismo>
replaced-url
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2656 [17:19:56] <asterismo> jhutchins_wk: kill switch?
2657 [17:20:11] <asterismo> on the board?
2658 [17:20:23] <asterismo> like a jumper setting?
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2660 [17:21:04] <jhutchins_wk> Nah, not on a desktop MB. On a
laptop maybe.
2661 [17:21:16] <asterismo> its a desktop mobo
2662 [17:21:29] <jhutchins_wk> asterismo: They're not modular
either, the chipset is integrated, so it's not like
there's a loose wire or anything.
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2664 [17:21:58] <jhutchins_wk> asterismo: So either there's
something in the BIOS or the hardware has just died.
2665 [17:22:06] <Shadow_7> asterismo:
replaced-url
2666 [17:22:24] <jhutchins_wk> asterismo: On-board Realteks use
less than $2 worth of hardware.
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2669 [17:23:07] <asterismo> jhutchins_wk: yeah
2670 [17:23:22] <asterismo> but i want to get out the wifi and use
ethernet
2671 [17:23:23] <Shadow_7> seems it's got proprietary
drivers, not in certain things. Need the non-free repos and $ sudo
apt-get install r8168-dkms
2672 [17:23:25] <asterismo> damn
2673 [17:23:43] <asterismo> i have enabled that repo
2674 [17:23:49] <asterismo> contrib non-free
2675 [17:23:56] <asterismo> but i have no such package
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2677 [17:24:09] <asterismo> r8168-dkms
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2682 [17:25:26] <Shadow_7> might be the ubuntu way
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2689 [17:26:45] <asterismo> Shadow_7: that package is for Sid
2690 [17:27:03] <asterismo> i'm running jessie
2691 [17:27:08] <asterismo> should i install it?
2692 [17:27:27] <Shadow_7> asterismo: probably have to go the
manual route with a source tarball
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2694 [17:28:26] <Shadow_7> asterismo: assuming it shows up in
lspci... $ lspci -nnk | grep -i 8111
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2697 [17:28:32] <asterismo> Shadow_7: it depends upon dkms 2.1.0.0
and jessie has the 2.2.0.3-2
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2699 [17:30:16] <Shadow_7> asterismo:
replaced-url
2700 [17:30:20] <Shadow_7> for the driver
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2705 [17:31:57] <asterismo> brb
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2707 [17:32:06] <Shadow_7> asterismo: 0009-r8168-8.044.02.tar.bz2
is the name it seems
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2712 [17:34:25] <Milchy> this seems weird
2713 [17:34:36] <Milchy> i hosted apache on port 1025
2714 [17:34:41] <Milchy> and now i can access it
2715 [17:34:49] <Milchy> but not on port 80, whyy ???
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2717 [17:35:01] <Shadow_7> hosted as a user?
2718 [17:35:14] <Milchy> i just set apache to listen on port 1025
instead of 80
2719 [17:35:15] <Shadow_7> ports <= 1024 have to be hosted as
root
2720 [17:35:37] <Milchy> how do that so people can access it via
port 80 ?
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2722 [17:35:50] <Shadow_7> could also be blocked by ISP / firewall
2723 [17:36:05] <Milchy> i have 80 in my iptables
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2726 [17:36:26] <Milchy> strangely enough i dont have 1025, but it
still works
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2730 [17:36:48] <Milchy> how do i "host as root"
2731 [17:36:56] <Milchy> the machine just starts apache service
automatically
2732 [17:37:09] <Milchy> once i log in to my user
2733 [17:37:14] <Shadow_7> Milchy: what use netstat when it starts
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2735 [17:37:26] <Shadow_7> should show it listening and what port
2736 [17:37:35] <Milchy> its listening on 0.0.0.0:1025 now
2737 [17:37:44] <Milchy> 0.0.0.0:80 was not accesible
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2739 [17:38:14] <Milchy>
replaced-url
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2741 [17:38:26] <Milchy> but when set to default(80)
2742 [17:38:30] <Milchy> its not reachable
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2745 [17:38:57] <Shadow_7> consumer ISP connection ? could be
blocked by the ISP
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2748 [17:39:18] <Milchy> this "host" as root might work,
but i have no idea what you mean
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2750 [17:39:29] <Milchy> no isp isnt blocking anything
2751 [17:39:37] <Shadow_7> Milchy: should be default at least for
the listener
2752 [17:39:40] <riccoo_> Shadow_7: yes xbacklight
2753 [17:39:44] <troulouliou_div2> hi it seems like the live
folder from the install iso has diseppear ; can somebody post me a
working pxeboot syslinux default conf for debian isntall cd
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2760 [17:40:11] <Milchy> what did you mean that <1024 ports
should be hosted as root
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2768 [17:41:21] <troulouliou_div2> Milchy, only root can open an
listening socket on priv port ( < 1024)
2769 [17:41:23] <Shadow_7> Milchy: only root can do things with
those ports. like if you were doing netcat stuff. nc 192.168.2.2
5900 < file.txt ... nc -l -w 300 -p 5900 > file.txt ... for
send and receive.
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2772 [17:41:46] <Shadow_7> Milchy: as normal users it would fail
if port was <= 1024 instead of 5900
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2774 [17:41:58] <Milchy> if my netstat showed that its listening
on 80 previously, does that mean it was ok ?
2775 [17:42:29] <Milchy> im not sure what this root thing means,
the apache service is auto start up once i log to my user
2776 [17:42:32] <Shadow_7> it should have been. but there could be
selinux and other things in the way
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2779 [17:43:09] <Milchy> is there a way to check what was in the
way ?
2780 [17:43:09] <Shadow_7> Should start up when the computer
boots? it's a daemon
2781 [17:43:28] <Shadow_7> Milchy: tcpdump to see if it's
getting :80 packets
2782 [17:43:39] <Shadow_7> or if it never knocks on the door
2783 [17:44:32] <Milchy> no 80's in sight
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2785 [17:44:37] <Shadow_7> if not, then blocked at the network.
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2787 [17:45:00] <Milchy> how do i check that then
2788 [17:45:25] <Shadow_7> a lot of hosters just do :8080 for http
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2792 [17:45:49] <Shadow_7> You need like a business line
connection to host lower ports
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2794 [17:46:03] <Milchy> so how do i make it so when people type
in my ip they would go where i want
2795 [17:46:12] <Milchy> fine ill leave it on 1025
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2797 [17:46:19] <Milchy> but how do i make it so people wont have
to type in that 1025
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2799 [17:46:33] <jhutchins_wk> !rt8111
2800 [17:46:43] <Shadow_7> you could pay for hosting services. Or
some other middle man that forwards to a usable port.
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2803 [17:47:44] <Shadow_7> Milchy: 8080 would be a more
"expected" port
2804 [17:47:56] <Milchy> yes but you dont normaly type in
google.com:8080
2805 [17:48:03] <Milchy> or anysite:8080 for that mater
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2807 [17:48:31] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: If you changed 80 to 1025
apache would no longer listen on 80.
2808 [17:48:33] <Shadow_7> Milchy: then you'll need some
middle man thing on the other side of your ISP connection
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2810 [17:49:55] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: You would have to have
something listening on 80 that forwarded to 1025. It could
theoretically be on the same server, they do that a lot with java
webapps.
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2813 [17:50:14] <Shadow_7> Milchy: perhaps some guides and hints
on sites like noip, dyndns, and whatevers
2814 [17:50:23] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: It's possible to
listen on multiple ports (ie 80/http & 443/https).
2815 [17:50:51] <Milchy> my problem is that debian doesnt let
people past <1024 ports to my apache
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2818 [17:51:11] <Milchy> yet this 101 internet, people install
apache and make it work 24/7
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2820 [17:51:20] <Milchy> im either missing something or... i dont
know...
2821 [17:51:41] <Shadow_7> Milchy: could be a firewall thing. If
it works on 1025, it should work on 80
2822 [17:52:08] <Shadow_7> or a vm thing or however your have your
thing configured
2823 [17:52:32] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: No, it's not debian.
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2826 [17:52:51] <Milchy> i changed it to 1025 and it worked?
2827 [17:53:02] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: If you're running a
firewall that could be blocking 80.
2828 [17:53:10] <Milchy> 80 is in the iptables
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2830 [17:53:17] <Shadow_7> or the ISP is blocking it
2831 [17:53:47] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: I would ASK the provider,
probably check their FAQ first.
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2834 [17:54:45] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: Also look at the logs and
see if there's some reason apache is not liking port 80 - like
it's defined twice and "already in use". apachectl -t
is useful to check your config files.
2835 [17:55:15] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: You could pastebin your
IPTables rules and let us check them.
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2840 [17:56:08] <Milchy>
replaced-url
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2844 [17:56:58] <Milchy> i even forgot to type in 1025
2845 [17:57:00] <Milchy> which is working fine
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2854 [17:59:02] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: Yeah, I'm pretty
rusty, but I don't see a rule that would allow 1025, which
suggests that your script isn't working.
2855 [17:59:46] <troulouliou_div2> hi here is my syslinux pxe
entry for debian ; it boots but then it complains that it can't
fnd the cdrom; is there a trick to mount dthe NFS partition as a cd
?
2856 [17:59:46] <troulouliou_div2>
replaced-url
2857 [18:00:10] <Milchy> what does -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1/32 -j
ACCEPT
2858 [18:00:11] <Milchy> mean ?
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2860 [18:00:50] <mdim> hi all
2861 [18:00:56] <Shadow_7> troulouliou_div2: if it just wants that
to get the .deb. You could just pre-emptively copy the .debs to
/var/cache/apt/archives/
2862 [18:01:06] <mdim> how do I find out when was this package the
last time in Debian Stretch?
replaced-url
2863 [18:01:20] <troulouliou_div2> Shadow_7, no i want to have a
bootable over pxe dvd
2864 [18:01:22] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: I believe it means that if
the source is 127.0.0.1 (localhost) accept all.
2865 [18:01:31] <mdim> I'm aware of snapshot.debian.org, but
I'm not sure how to find this information there
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2868 [18:02:27] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: I also don't see a
rule that would allow 80 from anything but 10.0.2.15 - but 1025
would also be allowed from 10.0.2.15
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2877 [18:05:04] <Milchy> so if i add
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2879 [18:05:17] <Milchy> -A INPUT -s 0.0.0.0/0 -j ACCEPT
2880 [18:05:22] <Milchy> would that fix my problems?
2881 [18:05:39] <Shadow_7> allow anything from everything ?
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2884 [18:06:07] <Milchy> yes
2885 [18:06:19] <Milchy> if that doesnt work, what other options
do i have lol
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2887 [18:06:36] <Shadow_7> the /# thing is the netmask. it would
be effectively the same as iptables -X && iptables -F
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2889 [18:07:11] <Shadow_7> plus that for all the -t ???? things
2890 [18:07:26] <Milchy> -A INPUT -s 0.0.0.0/0 -j ACCEPT, didnt
help
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2894 [18:08:21] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
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2897 [18:08:56] <Shadow_7> unemployed with a big fat severence?
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2906 [18:11:15] <Milchy> so if my apache is listening on 1025
2907 [18:11:24] <Milchy> and now i see theres something listening
on 80
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2910 [18:11:29] <Milchy> how do i find out what that something is
2911 [18:11:43] <somiaj> Milchy: netstat -a will list all open
ports
2912 [18:11:52] <somiaj> note it lists sockest as well, there are
ways to isolate it to just tcp
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2915 [18:12:14] <Milchy> i want to know whats listening on :80.
-an told me that
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2917 [18:12:41] <Shadow_7> Milchy: netstat -tulpan
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2921 [18:14:08] <Milchy> nginx.conf
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2926 [18:14:54] <Milchy> wait, 1025 is also nginx.conf
2927 [18:14:57] <Milchy> what the...
2928 [18:15:20] <Skandalist> I use Thunar and I can see video
thumbnails except mpg files. What could it be?
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2930 [18:16:01] <kingkong> what's the mpfr package name ?
libmpfr4-dbg ?
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2932 [18:16:10] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: You can also flush all the
rules and run with nothing.
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2935 [18:16:45] <jhutchins_wk> Milchy: I think netstat -anp shows
PID or process name.
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2937 [18:16:53] <Shadow_7> kingkong: libmpfr4 ...in debian jessie
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2939 [18:17:27] <jhutchins_wk> Skandalist: Whatever is extracting
the thumbnails doesn't have the MPEG codec, probably for
license reasons.
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2941 [18:18:03] <Milchy> ok so, 1025 opens my webpage, netstat is
telling me this: apache is on 8080, and nginx.conf is on 1025 AND 80
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2943 [18:18:21] <kingkong> Shadow_7: thanks. 4 refers to version 4
?
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2946 [18:18:43] <Skandalist> can additional plugin packages help?
I can play mpg in mplayer, for example
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2949 [18:18:56] <jhutchins_wk> ,v libmpfr4
2950 [18:18:59] <judd> Package: libmpfr4 on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.1.0-5; jessie: 3.1.2-2; sid: 3.1.5-1; stretch: 3.1.5-1
2951 [18:19:17] <riccoo_> Shadow_7?
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2953 [18:19:35] <jhutchins_wk> Skandalist: Not sure what Thunar
uses to extract the images. You'd have to look at their docs.
2954 [18:19:56] <jhutchins_wk> Skandalist: It probably uses
something else rather than extracting them itself.
2955 [18:20:02] <kingkong> ok thanks
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2957 [18:20:29] <Skandalist> thanks anyway
2958 [18:20:30] <Shadow_7> Perhaps it nees mjpegtools to get
thumbnails
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2960 [18:20:54] <jhutchins_wk> I wouldn't go just throwing
random packages at it.
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2962 [18:21:13] <Shadow_7> strace and other methods to see what
it's looking for.
2963 [18:22:46] <jhutchins_wk> Shadow_7: Or documentation.
2964 [18:23:11] <Shadow_7> Where's the adventure in that?
2965 [18:23:13] <altyr> mdim:
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3009 [18:39:57] <contrapunctus> I'm using the Cinnamon DE on
Debian. How may I 1. configure it to have every window start as
maximized? 2. disable sticky keys "latchlock" behaviour?
(i.e. enabling sticky keys but not having modifiers 'lock'
when pressed twice consecutively; Cinnamon does not provide that
through a GUI, and using the relevant CLI commands in e.g.
~/.xsessionrc gets overriden)
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3021 [18:46:33] <rx777> Hey, what should I install in order to
display some special characters on Firefox?
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3023 [18:46:43] <rx777> Like these ones, for example
replaced-url
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3033 [18:51:36] <Shadow_7> rx777: in the sources it go tos a
google font or two. Lato, Arvo. I guess it depends on where you want
to "display" the characters
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3037 [18:52:34] <rx777> Shadow_7: I just want to display the
characters from the box in the center
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3039 [18:52:48] <rx777> I didn't have this problem on XFCE,
but I do on i3
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3064 [18:58:21] <Shadow_7> rx777: katakana from a japanese
syllabary, so a kaomoji. &shrug;
3065 [18:58:27] <rx777> Shadow_7: seems like I was missing Unicode
fonts, installed unifont and the problem is now solved.
3066 [18:58:41] <rx777> (not sure about the first part though)
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3143 [19:40:02] <stoned> I tried to run KDE's partition
manager using kdesudo and it says can't open display 0
3144 [19:40:12] <stoned> I can run any administrative kde apps
3145 [19:40:28] <stoned> just instlled debian kde cd1
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3147 [19:41:18] <c-c> stoned: maybe kdesudo isnt in whatever
display manager group
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3151 [19:42:50] <w00dsman> xhost +
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3153 [19:43:59] <stoned> w00dsman: xhost + says can't open
display (as root)
3154 [19:44:34] <w00dsman> sudo !!
3155 [19:44:46] <stoned> what?
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3157 [19:44:50] <w00dsman> sudo xhost +
3158 [19:44:54] <gftg> stoned: Can you run xhost + as a regular
user (not root)
3159 [19:45:11] <w00dsman> sorry, the "!!" is a shell
command to repeat the previous command
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3164 [19:45:40] <Shadow_7> stoned: xhost local: ..... as the user
who started X.
3165 [19:46:00] <gftg> stoned: Last time I used sxhot +, I used it
as a regular user, then became root, then opening x was allowed.
3166 [19:46:02] <stoned> Oh
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3168 [19:46:12] <stoned> I dont understand anything
3169 [19:46:16] <stoned> It's been so long.
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3172 [19:46:44] <Shadow_7> Basically X sharing disabled by default
these days
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3174 [19:46:51] <gftg> stoned: As your regular user, run
"xhost +"
3175 [19:47:07] <gftg> stoned: become root with, e.g.: "sudo
su -"
3176 [19:47:16] <stoned> ok
3177 [19:47:31] <gftg> stoned: Then open the graphical program
3178 [19:47:53] <gftg> (At least, that's what I used to do)
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3180 [19:49:07] <Shadow_7> You might have to set $DISPLAY
depending on environment
3181 [19:49:17] <gftg> Indeed
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3183 [19:50:45] <Shadow_7> Alternatively you can copy the
~/.Xauthority of the user who started X to ~/ of other users and
chmod it. Plus DISPLAY and stuff for the save effect. If you
don't trust xauth / xhost / and other routes.
3184 [19:51:02] <Shadow_7> s/save/same/
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3186 [19:51:46] <Shadow_7> And then there's sharing with a
chroot... what a mess that is now with systemd.
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3194 [19:57:16] <Shadow_7> Oh yeah, and set $XAUTHORITY to the
full path of said .Xauthority file. Used to not have to do that.
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3262 [20:34:51] <trumpy_> anyone have a link to a list of debian
irc, like different topics?
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3266 [20:37:16] <jhutchins_wk> trumpy_: Google does!
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3267 [20:37:17] <Shadow_7> trumpy_: like different channels?
#debian-offtopic #debian ... and oftc ... #debian-next #debian-arm
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3273 [20:39:05] <trumpy_> yes, thanks i couldnt thikn of the
word.. channels
3274 [20:39:11] <trumpy_> and thanks for link
3275 [20:39:14] <jhutchins_wk> Shadow_7: There are a LOT of
channels. All are on oftc.net, #debian and -offtopic are duplicated
here.
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3277 [20:40:16] <abishai> trumpy_: may I also suggetst
#america_1st best channel out there!
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3279 [20:40:34] <trumpy_> haha
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3297 [20:47:58] <Shadow_7> Or earth first, we'll pave the
other planets later
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3348 [21:04:53] <noqnio1> hey. There was a power outage during an
update, and gnome-themes-standard is corrupted. I cannot even remove
it. I tried clean, autoclean, dpkg configure, apt
--fix-broken-install and nothing worked... Any ideas?
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3356 [21:06:23] <c-c> noqnio1: did you try purge? 8)
3357 [21:06:26] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: rm the
/var/cache/apt/archives/...gnome...deb
3358 [21:06:37] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: and then apt-get install
--reinstall ...gnome...deb
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3362 [21:07:20] <noqnio1> @Shadow_7: did not work :/
3363 [21:07:32] <c-c> apt-get purge gnome-...
3364 [21:07:32] <noqnio1> @c-c I am afraid it will remove gnome
itself
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3367 [21:07:40] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: how about... dpkg -i
/var/cache/apt/archives/...gnome...deb
3368 [21:07:56] <c-c> noqnio1: so you didn't
"remove" either...
3369 [21:08:04] <noqnio1> apt-get doesnt work
3370 [21:08:17] <noqnio1> complains about broken packages
3371 [21:08:20] <c-c> ok, you should have said so
3372 [21:08:20] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: did you try apt-get -f install
3373 [21:08:24] <noqnio1> yes
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3376 [21:08:46] <noqnio1> apt-get simply refuses to do anything
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3378 [21:09:00] <c-c> thats not an error message I've heard
of so cannot help there
3379 [21:09:17] <noqnio1> Shadow, dpkg -i didnt work either
3380 [21:09:17] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: what is it's complaints?
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3382 [21:09:33] <noqnio1> dpkg: error processing archive
/var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-themes-standard-data
3383 [21:09:33] <dpkg> noqnio1: That isn't an error, post the
whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
3384 [21:09:47] <noqnio1> unable to open
'/usr/share/themes/Adwaita-dark/gtk-3.0/gtk.css.dpkg-new':
No such file or directory
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3386 [21:09:59] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: sometimes you need to cp
....old .... for things in /var/lib/dpkg/
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3388 [21:10:53] <noqnio1> what do you mean?
3389 [21:10:54] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: did you fsck the filesystem
after the crash?
3390 [21:11:21] <noqnio1> not really, doesn't it happen at
boot time?
3391 [21:11:36] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: depends on your /etc/fstab and
the fs
3392 [21:11:50] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: does apt-get update function?
3393 [21:11:50] <noqnio1> it was a clean shutdown, I just forgot i
was upgrading and switched over real fast
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3395 [21:12:00] <noqnio1> update yes, upgrade no
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3397 [21:12:18] <unborn> noqnio1: just backup everything included
log files, and then just re install. its your best bet to get your
system back working again. then you can go back and investigate the
log files what went wrong. I guess your gui does not work but
terminal works - if so, back it up and reinstall, then restore your
system and have look at log files...
3398 [21:12:38] <c-c> reinstall for one corrupted package? Wow
3399 [21:12:40] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: perhaps apt-get install
--reinstall apt
3400 [21:12:57] <unborn> c-c: no, reinstall of whole system
3401 [21:13:02] <noqnio1> nope, it refuses to do that as well
3402 [21:13:09] <noqnio1> @unborn: yeah id rather not do that!!
3403 [21:13:10] <Shadow_7> c-c: sometimes it is the
"faster" solution
3404 [21:13:13] <unborn> ....i was not talking about packages at
all.
3405 [21:13:13] <c-c> unborn: kind of wild when you don't
even know whats wrong
3406 [21:13:39] <unborn> c-c, did you read what I just typed? keep
the logs
3407 [21:13:43] <Shadow_7> or at least the known the work solution
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3409 [21:13:48] <unborn> noqnio1: sure.
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3411 [21:14:00] <c-c> unborn: sure, the leg is broken, transplant
the head on a new body
3412 [21:14:04] <jhutchins_wk> noqnio1: Did you check/repair the
filesystem
3413 [21:14:12] <apt-get__> hello
3414 [21:14:19] <unborn> noqnio1: have look at your log files..
3415 [21:14:28] <noqnio1> when i try to aptitude remove
gnome-themes-standard it is trying to remove gnome-core and
task-gnome-desktop
3416 [21:14:28] <unborn> they will tell you what went wrong
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3418 [21:14:34] <noqnio1> which id rather it didn't
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3420 [21:15:00] <c-c> So, you didn't remove anythging.
3421 [21:15:07] <c-c> You didn't purge anything either,
noqnio1
3422 [21:15:14] <noqnio1> it did not work
3423 [21:15:19] <noqnio1> apt-get refuses to do anything
3424 [21:15:27] <c-c> noqnio1: there is no "it did not
work" error for me
3425 [21:15:31] <unborn> c-c: I have no idea what legs or heads
you are on about, but logs will tell him.. logs are there to help
troubleshoot.
3426 [21:15:37] <c-c> noqnio1: only pastebins/gists of your
session
3427 [21:15:46] <noqnio1> I pasted the message
3428 [21:15:53] <noqnio1> 10:09:33
3429 [21:16:12] <c-c> noqnio1: pastebin or gist
3430 [21:16:21] <c-c> noqnio1: or listen to people like unborn
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3432 [21:16:48] <c-c> noqnio1: you need an analytical exact
approach or forget it
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3434 [21:17:39] <Golleul> hello,
3435 [21:17:55] <noqnio1>
replaced-url
3436 [21:17:55] <Golleul> Please honestly tell me which debian are
you guys using. stable or testing or unstable?
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3440 [21:18:49] <c-c> noqnio1, as root # dpkg --configure -a
3441 [21:18:56] <hicks_> all three.
3442 [21:19:01] <jolt> Stable on servers. testing/unstable on
desktops
3443 [21:19:09] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: if you intend to install it...
try this: dpkg --purge --force-all gnome-themes-standard &&
apt-get install gnome-themese-standard
3444 [21:19:26] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: the dpkg route doesn't
grab all of the parents
3445 [21:19:30] <c-c> That looks smart too ^
3446 [21:19:32] <hicks_> I'm using stable on servers,
testing/unstable on a laptop (two installs) and stable on a desktop
I mainly use for work
3447 [21:19:57] <c-c> Golleul: stable usually, sometimes install
stuff from testing
3448 [21:19:58] <noqnio1> if i purge gnome-themes-standard will
gnome remain?
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3450 [21:20:19] <hicks_> Golleul: is there a reason for your
curiosity? Are you trying to decide which to go with?
3451 [21:20:25] <Shadow_7> yes, but it may not function without
it. Not that it matters if step 2 is to put it back
3452 [21:20:56] <c-c> Shadow_7: use --force-depends noqnio1
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3455 [21:21:29] <unborn> Golleul: just the one I need :)
3456 [21:21:33] <Golleul> hicks_, yes. Actually I am trying to
install kali (which is based on debian) but it doesn't boot. so
screw it. I am looking for stable distro that I can work for years
without re installing. debian comes in my mind
3457 [21:21:40] <unborn> stable 8.7
3458 [21:21:48] <Shadow_7> Golleul: stable. Unless you have a need
for newer things. I started using testing (which is current stable),
due to glibc and kernel versions. But stable is good enough for my
2yo laptop now.
3459 [21:21:48] <hicks_> I'd say start with stable
3460 [21:21:55] <hicks_> move to others if you have a good reason
3461 [21:22:04] <hicks_> but if you don't, stable is lower
maintainance
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3463 [21:22:22] <Golleul> but I will be losing updated packages
which I might need for development. such as gcc gdb etc.
3464 [21:22:23] <hicks_> and you can pickup the odd newer
application version via backports if you have a need
3465 [21:22:23] <noqnio1> @shadow didnt work
3466 [21:22:23] <noqnio1> :/
3467 [21:22:32] <noqnio1> neither c-c's suggestion
3468 [21:22:38] <hicks_> my desktop is on stable and I use it for
dev daily, it's not really a prob
3469 [21:22:45] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: same error, or different one?
3470 [21:22:48] <c-c> Shadow_7: noqnio1 if apt-get purge
isn't ok, try # dpkg --purge package-name
--ignore-depends=package-name
3471 [21:22:54] <noqnio1> same error when i try to install
3472 [21:23:01] <hicks_> was a minor issue around the c++11
rollout when a newer llvm was needed
3473 [21:23:03] <c-c> noqnio1: and yeah, gist or pastebin or
forget
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3475 [21:23:18] <hicks_> but that was backportable, so easy enough
to work around the odd application
3476 [21:23:19] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: did you pastebin the full
output?
3477 [21:23:29] <noqnio1> yes, exactly the same as before
3478 [21:23:38] <hicks_> plus you can "upgrade" from
stable to testing or unstable
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3482 [21:24:21] <c-c> You can install things from testing on
stable
3483 [21:24:25] <hicks_> and can always do the
stable->testing->next stable if you really need to get some
extra packages that can't be backported and dont mind running
testing (via the next-stable name) for a little while
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3487 [21:25:12] <hicks_> c-c: I thought it was better to go via
backports then they've been built against the same libs as
stable?
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3489 [21:25:17] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: do the same thing on
gnome-core and arc-theme. dpkg --purge --force-all
gnome-themes-standard gnome-core arc-theme; apt-get install
gnome-themes-standard gnome-core arc-theme
3490 [21:25:21] <c-c> hicks_: sure
3491 [21:25:21] <hicks_> depending on the package that is
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3493 [21:25:51] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: you'll probably want to
be on a non-gui console for that if you're currently using
gnome
3494 [21:25:56] <noqnio1> i removed
/usr/share/themes/Adwaita-dark/gtk-3.0
3495 [21:26:07] <noqnio1> and it worked
3496 [21:26:32] <noqnio1> i don't know why, and frankly i
don't care!!!
3497 [21:26:40] <noqnio1> thank you both for your help
3498 [21:26:59] <c-c> gl!
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3501 [21:27:48] <FatalNIX> is there a reason why using useradd to
add a user and -p to set a password for that user would store the
password you type plain text in the shadow file?
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3503 [21:27:53] <FatalNIX> (obviously preventing login)
3504 [21:28:20] <jhutchins_wk> FatalNIX: Which release?
3505 [21:28:25] <Shadow_7> noqnio1: probably want to --reinstall
gnome-themes-standard-data too, which contains that part
3506 [21:29:02] <noqnio1> I did. thanks :)
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3510 [21:30:31] <greycat> some of the user admin commands expect
you to supply a hashed password, not a plaintext password
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3512 [21:30:38] <FatalNIX> jhutchins_wk: 8.7.something
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3514 [21:30:49] <Shadow_7> FatalNIX: adduser is the other option
that might be better
3515 [21:30:49] <FatalNIX> arch and centos7 also seems to be
affected..
3516 [21:31:05] <greycat> "affected" by "I
didn't read the man page"
3517 [21:31:38] <FatalNIX> nope, followed the man page
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3519 [21:31:48] <FatalNIX> greycat: so go skin a cat :P
3520 [21:32:13] <greycat> useradd(8) says "-p, --password
PASSWORD The encrypted password, as returned by crypt(3)."
3521 [21:32:17] <greycat> Which man page are YOU reading?
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3523 [21:32:40] <FatalNIX> not the debian one..
3524 [21:32:46] <Shadow_7> why not use passwd to change the
password?
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3527 [21:33:06] <greycat> Because then he wouldn't be able to
bitch about how it didn't do what he naively expected!
3528 [21:33:17] <jhutchins_wk> FatalNIX: It's an old utility.
It expects you to manually encrypt the password so that it's
secure when you enter it (and it's logged in your history).
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3538 [21:38:12] <FatalNIX> thanks though
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3550 [21:45:29] <nickelad> do i need vtx if i want to emulate
64bit debian with vbox?
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3601 [22:06:13] <Neph> Hi. I am running testing (kernel 4.5.0) and
I either need to get rid of predictable network interface names
(tried the kernel boot options to no avail already) or find a way to
configure the first ethernet device statically, no matter on which
hardware I boot. Ideas welcome.
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3613 [22:11:50] <somiaj> Neph: testing hasn't used kernel 4.5
for a while, you should make sure you are running current stretch
packages.
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3616 [22:12:34] <somiaj> there are ways to default to the
'classic' naming version, how are you installing on the
other machines such that the interface name isn't allow to be
configured to be static?
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3623 [22:14:58] <Neph> I'll upgrade and reboot. Will take a
while, this is a USB stick that I created for automatic
image-deployment. Hence the need to apply the same network config to
random interfaces.
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3629 [22:16:31] <Neph> biosdevname=0 and net.ifnames=0 in
/etc/default/grub:GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
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3647 [22:29:39] <somiaj> Neph: give some more details, you are
running off of a usb and you want the usb to give an internet
connection to any interface it finds on different machines (sounds
like you want to use some live system) or are you copying this image
to the machine and want it to automatically assign the primary
interface an ip?
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3652 [22:31:06] <somiaj> Neph:
replaced-url
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3655 [22:31:41] <somiaj> hmm, net.ifnames=0 should have worked,
did this nto work, again try on the current 4.9 kernel
3656 [22:31:57] <Neph> Have tried it, thanks, does not work. Will
try again after upgrading to latest testing.
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3661 [22:33:06] <jhutchins_wk> Neph: Some of that stuff is
evolving faster than it's being documented. Try to find newer
docs. (kernel.org).
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3663 [22:34:50] <romanosaurius_re> Hi. Question regarding
iptables-save. Can I combine the output of two iptables-save files
into a single one ?
3664 [22:35:57] <greycat> That may be more of a #netfilter
question.
3665 [22:36:14] <greycat> I would assume it's not trivial to
do so.
3666 [22:36:31] <romanosaurius_re> not easy so far...
3667 [22:36:35] <romanosaurius_re> will ping them!
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3669 [22:36:39] <romanosaurius_re> thanks
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3746 [23:12:54] <sloucher> Will Stretch eventually have kernel
4.10 ?
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3752 [23:15:05] <Brigo> sloucher, yes
3753 [23:15:10] <Brigo> ,kernels
3754 [23:15:11] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.10.0-rc6-686-pae (4.10~rc6-1~exp2); sid: 4.9.0-2-686
(4.9.13-1); stretch: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.6-3); jessie-backports:
4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.9.2-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-2)
3755 [23:15:30] <greycat> Brigo: based on what? Last I saw, 4.9
LTS was the choice.
3756 [23:15:31] <sloucher> Ty Brigo
3757 [23:15:57] <Brigo> sloucher, backports, jessie already has
4.9
3758 [23:15:58] <greycat>
replaced-url
3759 [23:16:07] <sloucher> I thinking about getting Kabylake
processor for a Stretch build. You think that is wise?
3760 [23:16:11] <greycat> jessie has 3.16.
3761 [23:16:11] <Brigo> 4.10 is in the oven (experimental). :)
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3763 [23:16:47] <Brigo> sloucher, i don't know even what you
are talking about :D
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3766 [23:17:20] <sloucher> the cpu - intel kabylake is the newest
one. I think it's a month or two old.
3767 [23:17:22] <missmbob> sloucher: sure. i'd suggest using
4.10 kernel though
3768 [23:17:58] <PacoMS95> hi people! I want to update my intel hd
graphics 520 but there is no official driver on the official page
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3770 [23:18:07] <sloucher> right missmbob - that is why I asked.
Sounds like 4.10 will make it down?
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3773 [23:18:40] <PacoMS95> seems like Debian does not recognice
the graphic card
3774 [23:18:41] <missmbob> sloucher: to stretch-backports when
it's released. or you can just get it from sid later. or build
your own.
3775 [23:18:45] <sloucher> They announced it would be 4.10 I
believe.
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3777 [23:18:54] <missmbob> sloucher: 4.9
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3781 [23:19:56] <PacoMS95> the issue came from a problem I had
trying to run OBS Studio
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3784 [23:20:53] <missmbob> sloucher: keep in mind 4.9 will work.
just 4.10 has specify kabylake fixes you'll want
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3788 [23:22:10] <sloucher> missmbob: I bet we read the same
article.
3789 [23:22:44] <missmbob> sloucher: anyway point is getting 4.10
will be simple. go for it if you can afford it
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3794 [23:23:41] <sloucher> I think I will. Kabylake here I come!
Thanks missmbob
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3805 [23:27:08] <gmh> Can I install a specific package only from
testing/unstable?
3806 [23:27:16] <c-c> yes
3807 [23:27:24] <c-c> gmh: perhaps you should google that first?
3808 [23:27:24] <somiaj> if running stable I would not do that
3809 [23:27:24] <missmbob> !tell gmh about jessie-backports
3810 [23:27:35] <missmbob> !tell gmh about dont break debian
3811 [23:27:42] <c-c> gmh: backports are what most use
3812 [23:27:47] <somiaj> if running stable you should either
install or create a backport.
3813 [23:27:49] <c-c> gmh: you could also compile your own
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3820 [23:29:45] <gmh> Thanks guys :)
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3823 [23:29:57] <c-c> ( apt-get source packagename )
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3826 [23:30:38] <c-c> (or $ apt-get source packagename=version )
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3828 [23:31:12] <c-c> I wonder if theres anyone who only uses
source packages with debian
3829 [23:31:29] <somiaj> you can't source packages don't
work that way.
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3831 [23:31:52] <somiaj> one could compile every source package
into a binary themselvse, but then install/use the binary.
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3879 [23:51:50] <jpw> sure anyone /could/ but thats why
distributions exist
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