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1[00:00:56] <RickHull> pulseaudio is using 65% CPU when
playing FTL's 8-bit style soundtrack
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2[00:01:11] <RickHull> and the audio is totally distorted and
choppy
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6[00:01:57] <RickHull> I've tried this and the above
suggestions:
replaced-url
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8[00:02:22] <RickHull> not sure what else to look at for
troubleshooting
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9[00:02:36] <mtn> RickHull: look at the arch wiki, too
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11[00:03:58] <n4dir> some call it "the bible" ... :-)
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16[00:05:37] <teraflops> RickHull: maybe resampling is doing
shit, did you touch that option?
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17[00:05:57] <teraflops> RickHull: if yes, _why_?
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20[00:06:44] <RickHull> i have not touched resampling
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21[00:06:54] <RickHull> perhaps 12 months ago when
troubleshooting something similar but I doubt it
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22[00:07:00] <teraflops> RickHull: or, it is a weak machine?
arm sbc or somethig like that?
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23[00:07:08] <RickHull> it's an old core 2 duo
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24[00:07:17] <RickHull> 1.6 GHz
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25[00:07:25] <RickHull> T5500 I think
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26[00:07:50] <RickHull> pulseaudio is doing something very
wrong to use so much CPU for simple playback
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28[00:08:31] <RickHull> I had FTL working well on this machine
12+ months ago. several dist-upgrades etc ago
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50[00:15:31] <oblio> when i run apt-get update i get the
following error for each line in my sources: Couldn't execute
/usr/bin/apt-key
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51[00:15:45] <oblio> but the binary runs fine, anyone have any
thoughts? i've tried googling around but not getting anywhere
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74[00:22:27] <freemind> how to install jre java manually on
Debian?
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75[00:23:09] <cynicallemon> why?
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78[00:23:41] <freemind> curiosity
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79[00:23:53] <SuperTramp83> it killed the cat :(
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82[00:24:01] <freemind> And I dont want use ppa
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84[00:24:21] <cynicallemon> is there a .deb package for it?
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88[00:24:53] <freemind> No cynicallemon. Is tar.gz
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89[00:25:43] <cynicallemon> well thats a compressed file so you
cant install from that
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90[00:26:04] <cynicallemon> decompress it and see whats inside
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102[00:31:11] <missmbob> !install java
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103[00:31:11] <dpkg> For the Java web browser plugin, install
the icedtea-plugin package. For other Java programs, install the
default-jre package to get the default or manually select one of
openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-7-jre yourself. The old <sun-java6>
packages are best avoided as Oracle now forbids Debian providing any
security updates to them. See also <java alternatives>.
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106[00:33:04] <cynicallemon> missmbob: he wants to install it
manually
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111[00:33:52] <heston> hello, so I wanted to stop some annoying
system bells and I used xset b off and that works but it's back
when my session locker(light-locker) is up
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122[00:40:38] <Hirnblaehung> !install samba
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125[00:41:41] <theneverlution> just saying hi :)
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126[00:41:49] <Hirnblaehung> hu
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129[00:42:26] <Brigo> heston, i am using /etc/inputrc (readline
configuration file) and it works for me.
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132[00:44:05] <heston> Bringo, did you just do "set
bell-style none"?
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133[00:44:11] <heston> and does that disable it system wide?
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142[00:45:20] <Brigo> heston, yes, and i am not Bringo as
everybody keeps calling me :)
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143[00:45:44] <heston> ah ok. Hah sorry
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145[00:46:04] <Brigo> heston, i am already used to it :D
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146[00:46:04] <heston> Brigo, thank you
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147[00:46:11] <Brigo> heston, np, good luck
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151[00:47:27] <heston> lol it's not even another user here
for tab completion. Bringo just seems to come out haha.
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175[01:02:27] <otyugh> heya.
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176[01:03:43] <otyugh> connected as some user, every time a
write "ssh <anything>" I get connected throught ssh
to a machine I do connect sometimes. There is no alias. What could
explain this odd behaviour ?
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179[01:05:13] <otyugh> (I must add that using ssh behave normaly
connected as another user)
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184[01:08:19] <pingouin> bye bye #debian
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187[01:08:37] <toruvinn> otyugh, host <anything>, also cat
~/.ssh/config perhaps?
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188[01:09:05] <toruvinn> otyugh, ah, works on another user,
i'd check ~/.ssh/config then
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191[01:09:48] <otyugh> toruvinn, this is actually smart enought
:O
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192[01:10:16] <otyugh> yeah there is stuff there
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193[01:10:22] <otyugh> let's wipe them out
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194[01:10:54] <otyugh> (for the record, something about
ControlMaster and ControlPath ?)
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196[01:12:03] <otyugh> yup. Was it. Big thanks toruvinn :)
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199[01:13:12] <toruvinn> otyugh, yw, although im not even sure
what controlmaster+others were ;-P
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200[01:13:26] <otyugh> It was about connecting using a socket
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201[01:13:34] <toruvinn> ah, now i get it.
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202[01:13:38] <otyugh> years ago I did played with the ssh
config, totally forgot about it
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203[01:13:46] <heston> hmm setting set bell-style none in
/etc/inputrc didnt actually disable the system bell
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205[01:14:16] <toruvinn> otyugh, im guessing your controlpath
was set to something which resulted in the same socket name for each
connection, so instead of creating a new connection you were just
connecting to the same socket.
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206[01:14:35] <otyugh> toruvinn, you reached the same thing I
guessed ^^'
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207[01:14:40] <toruvinn> otyugh,
replaced-url
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208[01:15:11] <otyugh> this is quite confusing, but all my bad
really
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212[01:15:29] <otyugh> bad, bad config scraps let everywhere
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221[01:21:06] <toruvinn> otyugh, well i've learned
something new today, thanks. it's actually sorta useful except
for the fact i smell an awful security issue if someone gains access
to your sockets somehow ;-)
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223[01:22:48] <otyugh> toruvinn agreed. Thanks a lot too, I was
not looking for this config file anytime. I should have. x)
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257[01:41:12] <zuiss1> i'm experiencing some slow
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284[01:55:18] <teraflops> zuiss1: disk io? video
playback/performance? also a good/great graphics card does not help
more than an intel igpu
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293[01:59:48] <zuiss1> teraflops: just a slight lag when opening
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294[01:59:57] <zuiss1> slight lag but it's noticeable
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297[02:00:14] <zuiss1> i gave the vm 4GB of ram and chose 3D
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298[02:00:29] <zuiss1> when i check 2D acceleration virtualbox
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303[02:02:30] <aaro> zuiss1, install guest-additions, also
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305[02:02:46] <zuiss1> i have guest additions installed
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307[02:02:58] <zuiss1> aaro: ok i'll disable 3d
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316[02:15:00] <demo> some one nwo how to install tor on antix
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317[02:15:11] <demo> now
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318[02:15:25] <themill> !antix
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319[02:15:26] <dpkg> antiX is a live CD distribution based on
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320[02:15:54] <demo> thank
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376[02:27:57] <mactimes> Err... Would someone, confirm that
latest release does NOT have _ping_ by default?
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377[02:28:20] <bazhang> 8.7?
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378[02:28:27] <mactimes> And it is actually necessary to install
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379[02:28:42] <mactimes> Yeah, latest one. Don't know
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426[02:29:15] <missmbob> it comes with ping
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427[02:29:18] <themill> ,i iputils-ping
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428[02:29:19] <judd> Package iputils-ping (net, important) in
jessie/amd64: Tools to test the reachability of network hosts.
Version: 3:20121221-5+b2; Size: 55.2k; Installed: 116k
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432[02:29:35] <themill> mactimes: ^^ you've got to work
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437[02:30:11] <stoned> installed hydrogen and I can't get
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438[02:30:17] <stoned> I have sound in the sytem working
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439[02:31:29] <mactimes> themill I haven't changed
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441[02:32:04] <themill> mactimes: is the iputils-ping package
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443[02:32:13] <mactimes> themill Let me check.
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446[02:32:47] <mactimes> themill Nope, it is not.
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450[02:33:38] <mactimes> themill But again, I haven't made
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452[02:33:58] <themill> that package is on the netinst and
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453[02:34:12] <mactimes> themill Yeah, so I expected...
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455[02:35:10] <mactimes> themill I was just astonished right
now, when ran ping to localhost and received back a *bash: ping:
command not found*
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461[02:35:55] <themill> the installer keeps a log -- perhaps
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472[02:36:18] <mactimes> themill Yeah, thanks. I'll take a
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496[02:47:37] <RickHull> can anyone recommend a WM/DE for a low
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for light weight, primarily terminal and web browser
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497[02:47:53] <RickHull> i'm using XFCE at the moment, but
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498[02:48:11] <RickHull> have used LXDE before. i like the idea
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501[02:49:23] <RickHull> i think 1024x768 is maybe too small for
effective tiling. i seem to need to do a lot of arranging and
overlapping. e.g. troubleshooting on web while typing into terminal
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510[02:55:51] <awal1> RickHull, there are like 20/30 WM's
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511[02:56:35] <awal1> I tried them almost all, and all are good;
but some are easy to configure, others no so much
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513[02:57:23] <pfred1> I run an out of repo DE
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515[02:57:41] <pfred1> so 20/30 WM's ain't enough!
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516[02:57:44] <noahmg123> onboard keyboard is layering
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517[02:57:50] <noahmg123> aka any change is layered on top
instead of being a regular change
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519[02:58:43] <vvande__> was just looking to download a Debian
ISO for somebody. Is there a way to avoid Gnome, or is it even worth
thinking about that. I don't seem to be able to find a basic
Debian OS download. It's like they want you to have a DE too or
something.
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521[02:58:50] <awal1> RickHull, the lightest and easiest to
configure i have found is jwm
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522[02:59:07] <pfred1> vvande__ get the net install pick expert
then install nothing
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524[02:59:14] <RickHull> I'm looking for one that can make
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525[02:59:23] <vvande__> pfred1: thanks ... looking now
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527[02:59:30] <awal1> mature and very stable, openbox & fvwm
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528[02:59:31] <RickHull> just basic features are fine
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529[02:59:42] <missmbob> vvande__:
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530[02:59:55] <pfred1> vvande__ then when you figure out what DE
you want install it with aptitude and that will pull in the X Window
deps
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532[03:00:19] <awal1> RickHull, you want keyboard oriented?
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533[03:00:23] <RickHull> do I have to decide on qt / gtk ?
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535[03:01:05] <pfred1> RickHull you can have both I do
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536[03:01:06] <RickHull> kb oriented is good, but I don't
want to be overwhelmed either. I am used to using e.g. emacs
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537[03:01:08] <vvande__> pfred1: OK, that works for me.
I'll do that in a minute.
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538[03:01:24] <pfred1> vvande__ be aware you will be stuck in
teh console initially
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540[03:01:35] <vvande__> I prefer that
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542[03:01:43] <vvande__> that's what I call an OS - lol
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543[03:01:54] <pfred1> vvande__ then that's how yo udo it
net install expert then select nothing
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544[03:02:29] <vvande__> I made a mistake when I installed two
other Debian boxes before. When I upgrade, I'll do it this way.
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545[03:02:30] <pfred1> your system will boot go online and
that's about it
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548[03:03:02] <awal1> RickHull, openbox is my favorite; but
anyway, it's a matter of choice
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549[03:03:03] <vvande__> I've done that before. Just had
trouble getting what I want. I'm not so good at reading web
sites like that. :(
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550[03:03:13] <awal1> all are good :P
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552[03:05:34] <RickHull> they all have complaints too, I trust
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553[03:05:34] <pfred1> vvande__ you might have to edit
/etc/apt/sources.list in the console
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555[03:06:13] <RickHull> with XFCE, it doesn't know what to
do with pulseaudio and some systemd stuff
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556[03:06:46] <RickHull> my old setup was using xscreensaver to
lock the screen and that doesn't make sense anymore, or is
broken now for whatever reason
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557[03:06:56] <pfred1> I have not run a systemd system yet
myself I'm still on Wheezy
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558[03:07:20] <RickHull> i don't mind systemd, but there
seems to be some rough edges to the integration story still
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559[03:07:44] <pfred1> I just don't want to upgrade right
now I have most everything I want
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560[03:08:13] <pfred1> I have a lot of custom built software on
my system
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562[03:10:31] <RickHull> any complaints with LXDE? I can't
remember why I stopped using it. does it get out of date with
certain things?
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563[03:10:54] <RickHull> with plain openbox, can I still get a
notification / systray area?
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569[03:14:02] <User_Dany> hola ?
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574[03:19:51] <awal1> RickHull, openbox needs a few extra stuff,
dunst for notifications/wmsystemtry
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578[03:20:29] <awal1> or use tint2 as panel, it have system tray
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616[03:46:18] <dvs> What was wrong with the 8.7.0 images?
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617[03:46:47] <missmbob> it was built with debug and the name
was HACK
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618[03:46:59] <dvs> Oh, that'll do it.
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664[04:02:19] <S1ohy> hi, notify-send isnt working for me, as in
not displaying anything
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665[04:02:24] <S1ohy> >notify-send "Message Title"
"The message body is shown here"
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666[04:02:26] <S1ohy> does nothing
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668[04:02:45] <missmbob> S1ohy: you probably have to explort
DISPLAY
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669[04:02:55] <missmbob> export*
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670[04:02:58] <S1ohy> ?
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671[04:03:08] <S1ohy> what should be the value of DISPLAY?
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672[04:03:38] <missmbob> it can vary. try DISPLAY=:0.0
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676[04:04:22] <S1ohy> both :0.0 and :0 return: bash: export:
`:0.0': not a valid identifier
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677[04:04:36] <S1ohy> when exporting
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678[04:05:18] <missmbob> just type DISPLAY=:0.0 and hit enter
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679[04:05:39] <pfred1> you have to export it to your environment
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682[04:07:15] <S1ohy> ok so
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684[04:07:18] <S1ohy> >ps axu | grep "X "
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685[04:07:27] <S1ohy> shows DISPLAY should be 0:00
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686[04:07:44] <S1ohy> but setting it to that value still does
not make notify-send display anything
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720[04:21:48] <laserbeak4445> Hello
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723[04:22:16] <klys> hello...
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726[04:23:05] <laserbeak4445> I'm thinking of switching to
Debian testing
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727[04:23:20] <missmbob> !debian-next
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728[04:23:20] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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729[04:23:49] <laserbeak4445> ok :)
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733[04:25:02] <laserbeak4445> so I guess I'm better to go
ask my question on oftc then...Sorry! :)
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747[04:34:34] <Guest68167> whats up
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748[04:34:45] <dvs> my blood pressure
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749[04:34:54] <Guest68167> haha
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754[04:37:29] <pfred1> I'm calm now i almost tossed my PC
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798[05:12:26] <heston> i did some googling but havent found the
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800[05:12:51] <heston> appearently
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805[05:18:48] <somiaj> I belive that still works, though you can
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807[05:19:31] <somiaj> For example nvidia puts a
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813[05:24:20] <heston> alright, I just need the system
speaker/bell disabled, was going to blacklist the kernel module
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821[05:33:24] <mohammad-ghasemi> please take a look at this
image and tell me if you had the same problem
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822[05:33:31] <somiaj> heston: so pcspkr-blacklist.conf may be a
more descriptive file for that.
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823[05:33:37] <mohammad-ghasemi> every now and then text gets
hard to read. It gets fixed by restarting the pc
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824[05:34:50] <heston> somiaj, yeah I just figured debian had a
more modern approach
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825[05:34:56] <somiaj> mohammad-ghasemi: might just be a video
driver, so restart xorg may fix it? My limited experience with stuff
like that is bad video hardware (or maybe just buggy driver)
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827[05:36:02] <heston> mohammad-ghasemi, your card might be
dying. Does that happen in any other OS?
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828[05:36:22] <heston> dying/overheating
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830[05:38:35] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston: I don't know. Just
use debian.
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831[05:39:35] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston: thank you
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832[05:39:38] <heston> mohammad-ghasemi, are you using
proprietary drivers or the free drivers for an ati card?
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833[05:39:48] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston: free
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834[05:39:55] <heston> which card?
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835[05:40:16] <mohammad-ghasemi> It is an Ausus laptop with an
onboard card
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836[05:40:20] <mohammad-ghasemi> intel card
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837[05:40:36] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston:
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838[05:41:23] <heston> does it only corrupt certain
applications? It looks like only the fonts for that application are
bad
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839[05:41:42] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston: yes some applications
get affected and some do not
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841[05:42:11] <heston> but just the fonts right?
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842[05:42:29] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston: yes.
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843[05:43:06] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston: but it sometime happen
for one application and sometime for the other
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845[05:43:43] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston: sometime multiple
applications at once
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846[05:44:12] <heston> mohammad-ghasemi, which version of debian
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847[05:44:37] <mohammad-ghasemi> how to get the version?
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848[05:44:39] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston:
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849[05:45:24] <mohammad-ghasemi> how to check i mean
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850[05:45:37] <somiaj> mohammad-ghasemi: kernel and intel video
driver do you have installed (or better yet what version of debian)
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851[05:46:12] <somiaj> mohammad-ghasemi: can you provide us the
output of apt-cache policy at paste.debian.net
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852[05:46:42] <heston> mohammad-ghasemi, cat /etc/debian_version
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853[05:46:49] <heston> in a terminal
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854[05:47:46] <mohammad-ghasemi>
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855[05:48:01] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston: 8.6
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857[05:48:26] <mohammad-ghasemi> somiaj:
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864[05:53:50] <heston> mohammad-ghasemi, whats the output for
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865[05:54:55] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston:
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866[05:56:35] <somiaj> mohammad-ghasemi: the kernel and intel
video driver from jessie-backports may improve this.
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867[05:56:40] <somiaj> !bpo knerel
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868[05:56:44] <somiaj> !bpo kernel
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869[05:56:45] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases
are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask
me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then
run «aptitude update». To install the current backported
kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install
linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To
list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude
search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian
Backports))'».
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871[05:56:59] <somiaj> you will need that and the package
xserver-xorg-video-intel from jessie-backports.
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872[05:57:22] <somiaj> this is only under the huntch, a newer
driver may fix some bugs in certain hardware. But you won't
know unless you try, and it may not work.
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874[05:57:59] <mohammad-ghasemi> somiaj: thank you!
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877[06:00:09] <heston> mohammad-ghasemi, in the meantime, try
changing your anti aliasing settings or pixel hinting
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878[06:01:06] <mohammad-ghasemi> heston: I should first find
them. thank you
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880[06:04:21] <mohammad-ghasemi> somiaj: heston watch this in
return
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889[06:08:59] <somiaj> mohammad-ghasemi: thanks, but as a
support channel please try to refrian from sharing off topic links
here, there are other social chanels for that.
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948[06:41:41] <heston> debian doesnt come with memtest86+ by
default? I've been using ubuntu for so long I thought it did
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951[06:44:58] <Zardoz> heston, I thought when I loaded with the
debian desktop it was in the grub menu at start
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952[06:45:27] <Zardoz> that was with 8.7
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955[06:45:52] <somiaj> depends on what you consider default, it
is an optional package
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956[06:46:22] <somiaj> though some larger tasks may include it
in their depends.
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958[06:46:49] <moonpunter> Is it possible to uninstall and
reinstall all gtk libraries in one go?
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959[06:48:34] <wmm> moonpunter, why would you do that?
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960[06:48:39] <heston> Zardoz, well not for me. And I did a
recent install with a netinstall for 8.7
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961[06:48:51] <moonpunter> I'm having a few different,
consistent errors regarding symbol lookup
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963[06:49:29] <somiaj> and why do you think reinstalling them
will fix this issue?
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964[06:49:42] <wmm> uninstall/reinstall is not going to help in
that case, better !paste the errors and ask how to fix them
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965[06:49:45] <wmm> !paste
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966[06:49:46] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
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967[06:49:51] <awal1> Using only FF addons from debian is wiser
#842939
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968[06:49:53] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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970[06:50:02] <somiaj> sounds to me more like version issues,
care to give the output of apt-cache policy of one of the libs you
think is misbheaving.
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972[06:50:41] <moonpunter> Doing it
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974[06:51:04] <awal1>
replaced-url
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976[06:51:56] <moonpunter> wmm:
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980[06:54:59] * awal1 wonders if all other mozilla addons, a bunch of
them available in debian as xul-ext-..., are also malwares :P
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986[06:59:03] <moonpunter> I don't know which gtk package
is giving the problem
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987[06:59:09] <moonpunter> It just tells about broken symbols
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988[06:59:52] <moonpunter> I want to apt-show-versions for only
installed gtk programs
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1047[07:39:53] <moonpunter> It seems libgtk-3-0 was definitely
not installed and that apt/itude could not find it in repo; even
after adding stretch, it could not find; downloaded manually,
installed, and it found some new stuff to upgrade
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1050[07:41:00] <wmm> moonpunter, xfce4-terminal from jessie does
not want gtk_menu_popup_at_pointer so this should not happen in the
first place
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1051[07:41:19] <moonpunter> I'm on sid
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1052[07:41:21] <wmm> xfce4-terminal from stretch does want it,
but stretch's gtk3 also supplies it, so shouldn't be
anissue there either
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1053[07:42:08] <moonpunter> It's a new thing, yeah, I saw
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1054[07:42:13] <moonpunter> But what about this gdk error
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1060[07:45:34] <wmm> how could xfce4-terminal be installed
without its dependency?
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1061[07:45:50] <moonpunter> That's why I'm thinking the
whole thing is corrupt
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1065[07:46:12] <moonpunter> Now I've installed libgtk-3-0
manually via dpkg; same errors
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1066[07:46:36] <wmm> apt-cache depends xfce4-terminal
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1067[07:46:56] <wmm> do you have a custom build, external
repos/ppas?
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1069[07:47:04] <moonpunter> not currently
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1070[07:47:12] <moonpunter> but i'm known to get tunnel
vision when wanting something to work
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1071[07:47:32] <wmm> also, apt-cache policy xfce4-terminal
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1073[07:48:19] <moonpunter> 0.8.2 is at 100
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1074[07:48:28] <moonpunter> -1
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1075[07:48:39] <moonpunter> it requires libgtk-3-0
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1076[07:48:46] <themill> pinning of -1? that's never a good
look
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1077[07:49:01] <wmm> just post the thing and shut off the brain
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1078[07:49:05] <moonpunter> 0.8.2-1
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1079[07:49:13] <wmm> let's see the full output, where it
comes from etc.
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1080[07:49:27] <themill> real output in pastebins > typos on
irc
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1081[07:49:42] <moonpunter>
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1083[07:51:50] <moonpunter> the two have gtk, glib, pango, and
cairo2 in common
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1087[07:53:28] <wmm> apt-cache policy libgtk-3-0
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1089[07:55:13] <moonpunter>
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1096[07:57:15] <wmm> seems legit, so should be working now
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1098[07:57:32] <moonpunter> lol
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1099[07:57:37] <moonpunter> ikr!
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1100[07:58:16] <moonpunter> where can i find more info on these
errors it's giving?
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1101[07:58:21] <moonpunter> basically three apps that i like to
use a lot
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1102[07:58:36] <moonpunter> whole thing has given me pretty dark
thoughts, like switching back to xubuntu
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1103[07:59:01] <somiaj> moonpunter: are you mixing jessie and
stretch sources? The errors you are getting sound more like that and
that can sometimes be a lot of work to get out of?
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1105[07:59:27] <moonpunter> i JUSt added a stretch repo to try
and get libgtk to run
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1106[07:59:29] <moonpunter> install*
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1108[07:59:38] <moonpunter> before that, it only had jessie
testing repos
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1109[07:59:49] <somiaj> you can't just add stretch repos to
debian jessie and expect things to work, debian doesn't work
that way
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1110[07:59:54] <somiaj> also jessie is stable, not testing.
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1111[08:00:05] <somiaj> !dontbreakdebian
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1112[08:00:05] <dpkg> hmm... dont break debian is
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1114[08:00:22] <moonpunter> i don't need this lecture mate
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1115[08:00:25] <somiaj> moonpunter: you can try to fully upgrade
to stretch and see if that fixes your problems, or reinstall jessie
and don't mix with stretch.
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1116[08:00:41] <moonpunter> i'm on testing
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1117[08:00:58] <moonpunter> literally nothing has installed from
stretch, since it still did not see the package
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1123[08:04:23] <themill> "I'm on testing" and
"nothing has installed from stretch" are completely
contradictory statements
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1124[08:04:40] <moonpunter> ..
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1127[08:05:15] <themill> which then makes it somewhat impossible
to work out what you're trying to do and what is wrong
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1128[08:05:27] <moonpunter> there is a testing repo and a stretch
repo
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1129[08:05:29] <moonpunter> what am i missing
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1130[08:05:37] <themill> testing == stretch
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1131[08:05:58] <wmm> the pastebins say you do have pkgs from
stretch
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1132[08:06:20] <wmm> if you're comparing testing/sid with
xubuntu then I have to ask, why are you using debian sid in the
firstg place
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1133[08:06:21] <moonpunter> it says they're available
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1134[08:06:29] <moonpunter> 500 = available
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1135[08:06:46] <howyoubeen> I've been given an old i3
inspiron running win7 for school, think debian-stable is too
outdated? Just need LibreOffice and a browser more or less
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1136[08:06:50] <wmm> asterisk = installed
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1138[08:07:16] <howyoubeen> i want to go with debian, but not
sure if i should go stable or testing
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1139[08:07:21] <moonpunter> and?
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1140[08:07:42] <themill> howyoubeen: nothing wrong with stable
there; you can grab a newer libreoffice from backports if you need
that
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1141[08:07:52] <howyoubeen> ah yes, backports
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1143[08:08:03] <somiaj> howyoubeen: I would stick with stable, it
should run just fine and that hardware, and you can get a newer
libreoffice from jessie-backports if the one in jessie doesn't
suit your needs.
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1145[08:08:22] <howyoubeen> its been a while forgot about that
option, thanks for the reminder
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1146[08:08:33] <howyoubeen> this is going to be great!
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1147[08:08:34] <themill> somiaj: Now that's what I call
staying on message ;)
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1150[08:11:12] <howyoubeen> im really curious to see how calc
compares to excel. Not a big fan of excel and I don't need to
do much heavy lifting with calc so I think it will work out pretty
well
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1153[08:11:59] <moonpunter> from File: libgtk-3-0:amd64.symbols
-- " gtk_menu_popup_at_pointer@Base 3.21.5"
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1154[08:12:17] <wmm>
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1155[08:12:19] <themill> howyoubeen: It looks and feels like
Excel 2003. The graphs look just as ugly. Spreadsheets are seldom
the right tool for a job but they are a ubiquitous tool that can be
made to do lots of jobs.
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1156[08:13:54] <howyoubeen> themill, I agree but I have one
finance class that requires it. Well, not excel. We could use google
docs if we want, but I'm interested in learning more about
LOffice over all anyways so it seems like a good opportunity
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1158[08:14:27] <moonpunter> so now it seems the problem i'm
facing is that i know these symbols exist but the software does not
want to use them
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1159[08:14:44] <moonpunter> i'll try compiling
xfce4-terminal from source i guess
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1181[08:29:04] <howyoubeen> holy cheese this is A LOT snappier
than I thought it would be hehe this is great
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1184[08:29:45] <howyoubeen> i would never know this was a 5 year
old laptop, this is going to be awesome
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1185[08:30:23] <pfred1> howyoubeen just 5 years old? I have a 12
year old laptop running here
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1186[08:30:37] <howyoubeen> haha, im impressed!
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1188[08:31:14] <pfred1> the screen is funny now though it only
works if the lid is almost closed
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1193[08:31:39] <howyoubeen> aw that's too bad. can you run
an external monitor with it?
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1196[08:32:22] <pfred1> I'm thinking about upgrading
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1201[08:35:17] <nullm0dem> i have a few laptops which run
headless, one just exports chrome over vnc.
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1205[08:35:56] <pfred1> that's something that's messed
up on my system anymore Chromium just doesn't work
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1211[08:36:56] <pfred1> I start Chromium and it loads this page
that says aw snap something is broken
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1212[08:36:58] <nullm0dem> pfred1: it wont start?
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1213[08:37:04] <nullm0dem> ah
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1214[08:37:25] <nullm0dem> have you tried to remove the package
and reinstall it
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1215[08:37:29] <pfred1> yeah it starts but it can't seem to
load a webpage
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1218[08:38:00] <pfred1> nullm0dem I tried to compile a new copy
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1220[08:38:35] <pfred1> I think i may have installed a buggy
plugin into it
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1226[08:42:07] <nullm0dem> pfred1: thats my first guess
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1230[08:44:50] <nullm0dem> pfred1: have you tried
--disable-plugins --disable-extensions from shell?
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1231[08:45:07] <pfred1> nullm0dem no I should give that a try
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1232[08:45:25] <nullm0dem> ;)
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1233[08:45:45] <pfred1> nope didn't work
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1234[08:45:52] <pfred1> I still get the aw snap page
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1235[08:46:23] <pfred1> but i am getting error messages in the
console
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1236[08:46:32] <nullm0dem> perfect
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1237[08:46:37] <pfred1> [7:7:0118/024427:ERROR:nss_util.cc(211)]
Error initializing NSS without a persistent database: NSS error
code: -8023
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1238[08:46:49] <pfred1> sounds serious
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1240[08:47:06] <pfred1> to the Google cave!
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1241[08:47:33] <nullm0dem> :) my IRC console is a pi3 without a
browser
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1246[08:48:44] <howyoubeen>
replaced-url
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1249[08:49:45] <howyoubeen> nevermind, it's from 2011. my
bad
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1252[08:50:57] <jelly> pfred1: does this happen with a fresh user
or at least a fresh profile/user-data-dir ?
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1253[08:51:11] <pfred1> jelly I don't know
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1256[08:51:42] <jelly> try it.
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1274[08:59:16] <pfred1> I wonder if this libnss3 package
isn't borked?
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1277[09:00:55] <jelly> pfred1: didi you manage to replicate the
issue with a new user?
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1279[09:01:30] <pfred1> jelly I'm not going to bother that
has nothing to do with it
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1281[09:01:50] <pfred1> the problem is with a system library
another user is goign to use the same hared object
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1282[09:03:24] <jelly> okay
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1283[09:03:41] <nullm0dem> pfred1: is it possible 64bit/32 bit
libs are the issue?
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1285[09:03:59] <nullm0dem> you mentioned you compiled chromium
and also installed from apt
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1286[09:04:04] <pfred1> nullm0dem maybe 32 bit I don't run
64
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1288[09:04:17] <pfred1> nullm0dem no the build never finished
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1289[09:04:31] <nullm0dem> ah ok
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1290[09:04:50] <pfred1> so I'm using the same craptacular
Chromium out of Wheezy's repo
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1291[09:04:53] <nullm0dem> you have done a complete purge?
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1294[09:05:56] <pfred1> I'd actually rather revisit that
build but ATM I'm working on something else
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1295[09:06:43] <pfred1> I only use chromium where firefox has
problems with some embedded videos
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1296[09:07:16] <pfred1> some videos the audio is static in
firefox it happens like on the weather channel
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1297[09:07:38] <pfred1> but they used to play fine in chromium
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1298[09:07:48] <nullm0dem> My chromium box runs arch, its and old
laptop tossed under mydesk i connect to with xrdp has its own audio
out
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1300[09:08:06] <nullm0dem> im wierd like that
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1301[09:08:36] <pfred1> right now i want to get Slic3r to build
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1303[09:09:05] <pfred1> but there's an issue with the copy
of boost installed that i need to work around
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1305[09:09:27] <pfred1> there's an environment variable i
can set and point to an alternate install
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1308[09:10:06] <pfred1> Slic3r needs a shell script wrapper to
run anyways so no biggie
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1311[09:11:32] <nullm0dem> neat!
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1314[09:12:55] <pfred1> yeah that's one way to sidestep
library version dependencies
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1316[09:13:32] <pfred1> just start the binary with a shell script
and export environment variables to it
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1318[09:13:57] <pfred1> that's how i got Eagle to run on
this system
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1319[09:14:06] <nullm0dem> yep
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1321[09:15:58] <nullm0dem> i have to rebuild this pi3 image, good
luck with the Slic3r build pfred1
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1322[09:16:13] <pfred1> but someday I'm going to want to fix
Chromium
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1323[09:16:38] <nullm0dem> just throw it on n old machine and
toss it under the desk ;)
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1325[09:17:10] <nullm0dem> be back in a few
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1327[09:17:55] <ImUs3r> i input info.php at explore. but i can
see only this text <?php phpinfo(); ?> . :( what’s
wrong?
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1337[09:23:02] <jelly> ImUs3r: what does "at explore"
mean?
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1340[09:23:19] <ImUs3r> explore address windows
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1341[09:23:22] <ImUs3r> jelly:
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1343[09:23:48] <elwisp> I'm building a new intel desktop pc.
Going to run pci passtru on a graphics card to a vm for gaming.
However, i need to find a mini-itx motherboard that is linux
compatible, i cannot seem to find much info online. Does anyone have
any pointers?
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1344[09:23:52] <ImUs3r> i input info.php into explore address
window. but i can see only this text <?php phpinfo(); ?> .
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1345[09:24:02] <jelly> ImUs3r: that's very confusing,
what's your native language?
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1346[09:24:44] <ImUs3r> i live in NewYork
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1347[09:24:46] <ImUs3r> :(
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1348[09:25:25] <jelly> ok, but what language do you write and
read best?
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1351[09:25:35] <DrBunsen> Hello, I just updated my system and I
got the following warning: The nvidia driver that is being
installed(340.101) doesn't math the nvidia kernel module
currently loaded(340.96). It told me to reboot after the install.
This is the list op updated packages
replaced-url
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1352[09:25:47] <wmm> or what is this explore address windows
program? You mean the file manager?
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1358[09:27:01] <jelly> DrBunsen: it will be less broken after
reboot, that's what the warning message is all about
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1360[09:27:24] <jelly> well s/will/is supposed to/
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1361[09:27:59] <DrBunsen> jelly: Yeah I got that, but I wanted to
be sure. I have a laptop that has a AMD card, and touching anything
close to the driver kills the driver ;)
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1362[09:28:10] <DrBunsen> but I guess I will reboot ;)
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1364[09:28:22] <jelly> DrBunsen: why do you even have nvidia
closed source drivers installed at all, then
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1365[09:29:02] <klys> because nouveau results in a failed X
session?
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1366[09:29:09] <DrBunsen> jelly: because I do play some games on
my install, and do not want to pass it though
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1367[09:29:22] <jelly> DrBunsen: so you have BOTH and AMD and a
Nvidia card?!
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1368[09:29:42] <jelly> in a laptop?
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1369[09:29:47] <DrBunsen> jelly: sorry no. My desktop has a
nvidia. My laptop an AMD. Just wanted to make clear why I am
hesitant
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1370[09:30:07] <jelly> DrBunsen: is this message from the desktop
or what
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1372[09:30:20] <DrBunsen> jelly: the desktop indeed
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1375[09:30:35] <jelly> then your amd situation on some other
machine is not relevant
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1379[09:32:53] <DrBunsen> the reboot didn't kill it. So I
guess everything is fine ;)
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1381[09:34:08] <jelly> this will happen every time nvidia driver
has a version upgrade
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1383[09:34:53] <DrBunsen> jelly: I am always a bit wary of GPU
driver updates
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1386[09:36:06] <jelly> nvidia breaks more often when kernels or
xorg bits are upgraded than when the driver itself is
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1390[09:38:27] <DrBunsen> ahhh, I will keep a note of that,
thanks
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1442[10:02:14] <eugenmayer1> are there any available
squeeze-backports server?
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1463[10:13:48] <themill> eugenmayer1: squeeze has been
unsupported for a while -- if you need backports, it's some
years past the time to upgrade to a supported release
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1464[10:14:03] <themill> they'd be on archive.debian.org I
guess
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1467[10:14:53] <eugenmayer1> themill: i upgraded like 99%
already, but this instance will be removed as is at march, for now,
i need to handle this
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1617[11:24:04] <magthe> good day, I'm trying to create a
preseed file where partman always chooses to use the entire disk,
the examples I've see use 'd-i
partman-auto/init_automatically_partition select biggest_free'
and I just can't figure out what I should use instead of
"biggest_free", any pointers?
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1633[11:29:46] <sdx32> magthe: the section
"partitioning" in here
replaced-url
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1635[11:31:02] <magthe> sdx32: unfortunately not, that's
where I got the line I have at the moment, but it contains nothing
what other selections are available :(
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1641[11:33:41] <sdx32> magthe: if I understand you correctly you
want to choose "regular" and "atomic" -> just
a single partition
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1674[11:45:25] <magthe> sdx23: yes, and I apparently *need* to
pick a disk (/dev/sda) even though the system only has one disk
(I'm guessing the installer media, a USB disk, isn't
filtered out automatically)
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1675[11:45:31] <magthe> thanks for the help
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1678[11:45:57] <sdx23> magthe: at least the comment says, you
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1679[11:46:10] <gokuls> i am getting python.h missing error in
debian jessie any help???
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1681[11:47:02] <sdx23> gokuls: be more specific?
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1682[11:47:05] <magthe> sdx23: I just didn't count the USB
stick as "one" :), I'm just daft
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1698[11:51:05] <gokuls> sdx23, While compiling Libreoffice i am
getting this error. fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory
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1699[11:51:06] <vialas-ipad> hello everyone
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1707[11:51:50] <sdx23> gokuls: You're missing some
dependencies. But, why do you compile it?
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1709[11:52:12] <vialas-ipad> i have just installed Debian for the
5th time on my Mac mini. I am running into. a problem where after
install on first boot the screen gets stuck on
"/dev/mapper/host name-vg-root: clean XXXXX/YYYY fils of
XXXXX/YYYYYYY blocks
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1710[11:52:28] <gokuls> sdx23, i am working on the source code.
Bug fixes hence i need to compile
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1711[11:52:28] <vialas-ipad> where x and y are various number
that do no move
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1712[11:52:33] <vialas-ipad> scree stays put
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1714[11:52:56] <gokuls> sdx23, i tried installing python-dev.
pypy-dev, python3-dev
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1715[11:53:02] <gokuls> still getting the error
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1718[11:53:22] <vialas-ipad> that's nog good gokuls :(
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1719[11:53:45] <gokuls> vialas-ipad, whats not good??
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1720[11:53:48] <sdx23> gokuls: apt-get -s build-dep
libreoffice... - if the sources did not diverge too much from the
debian package.
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1722[11:54:03] <vialas-ipad> the error you get :(
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1723[11:54:03] <vialas-ipad> we both are stuck :(
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1725[11:54:34] <gokuls> vialas-ipad, ;)
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1726[11:54:47] <gokuls> sdx23, i did that as well all
dependencies are installed
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1727[11:55:07] <vialas-ipad> I really dontlike ubuntu but it
installs and works... i am wanting to move away from ubuntu to the
original Debian :)
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1728[11:55:43] <sdx23> gokuls: well, I guess you'd be better
off asking libreoffice people then. The only advice I've left
is packages.debian.org to search for Python.h
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1729[11:55:44] <gokuls> vialas-ipad, thats why working on debian.
remove it install bro
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1730[11:56:05] <gokuls> sdx23, I did do that as well
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1731[11:56:06] <gokuls> thank u
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1732[11:56:13] <gokuls> still error exists
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1738[11:57:42] <vialas-ipad> ops wrong button
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1739[11:57:47] <vialas-ipad> guess everyone is not here to help
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1740[11:57:52] <vialas-ipad> bed time for me
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1742[11:57:54] <vialas-ipad> have a good night everyone
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1811[12:33:04] <darxmurf> thanks, lunch time here :-)
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1841[12:52:18] <ben25> i saw there are several png crusher, an
opinion on which one to settle?
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1863[13:05:00] <digdilem> Just a sanity check before I proceed. I
have a debian7.11 install where the permissions for /etc have all
gotten 777's. Would the best solution be try to chmod them
individually or reinstall 7.11 over the existing partition?
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1866[13:05:50] <missmbob> digdilem: reinstall or restore backups
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1869[13:06:19] <digdilem> the backups turn out to have 777 perms
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1870[13:06:30] <missmbob> i meant reinstall debian from scratch
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1871[13:07:08] <digdilem> will it leave the rest of the fs intact
on that partition? (I appreciate I'll need to restore
individual config files)
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1872[13:07:15] <missmbob> no
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1901[13:16:03] <jelly> digdilem: or make an installation (or just
chroot) somewhere on the side with the same set of packages, then
fix the permissions using that as a template
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2011[14:15:20] <watmm1> Hey, i'm finding that my swap keeps
filling up until i have to add more. I've looked at VmSwap in
/proc/*/status but the running processes appear to use very little.
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2016[14:16:30] <watmm1> Is there another metric i should look at?
Perhaps it's several short lived processes over time. As an
aside, i think it's Jenkins related. No garbage collecting
going on, but i'd like to what out what specifically
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2039[14:25:12] <sefru> Hi! I have a small problem. I just
installed a package from the repos called games-typing. It contains
mutiple games for practicing typing speed. Problem is, I don't
know how to launch any of those games. Any ideas? :)
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2050[14:28:59] <sefru> I have tried checking /usr/bin for the
programs in question, but it seems I can't find them from there
either.
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2053[14:30:06] <TomTomTosch> sefru: games-typing is just a
metapackage that installs a bunch of individual games. most of which
will probably be installed to /usr/games/ you can for example simply
run typespeed in a terminal.
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2058[14:33:03] <sefru> TomTomTosch: Thanks for the answer!
Interstingly, I can't find the games from /usr/games either. If
I try running typespeed in console, it says that the command is not
found.
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2059[14:33:34] <sefru> TomTomTosch: Do you think that restarting
my compyter would help?
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2061[14:34:49] <TomTomTosch> sefru: nope. but you could paste the
output of apt-cache policy games-typing typespeed; ls -alF
/usr/games/typespeed to paste.debian.net
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2074[14:39:34] <yungmig> hey so I'm trying to install
eclipse. But for that I need JRE 8. Can someone help me install
openjdk-8-jre? It says there's no installation candidate when
using apt-get install. openjdk-7-jre exists but not 8 :/
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2077[14:40:08] <TomTomTosch> ,v openjdk-8-jre
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2078[14:40:08] <judd> Package: openjdk-8-jre on amd64 --
jessie-backports: 8u111-b14-2~bpo8+1; sid: 8u111-b14-3; stretch:
8u111-b14-3
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2079[14:40:27] <TomTomTosch> yungmig: you can get it from
jessie-backports
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2080[14:40:36] <woshty> Why is there no memtest on the netinst
debian-installer?
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2081[14:40:44] <TomTomTosch> yungmig:
replaced-url
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2082[14:40:48] <bezaban> it's in backports!
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2084[14:40:56] <bezaban> /opt*
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2086[14:41:21] <yungmig> So I need to add a repo to my source
list?
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2087[14:41:34] <bezaban> !bpo
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2088[14:41:34] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable
(<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
replaced-url
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2089[14:41:35] <TomTomTosch> yes, read the instructions.
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2093[14:42:24] <sefru> TomtomTosch: I pasted the output to
paste.debian.net I have a finnish localization so I don't know
if you can understand the output, but it says that games-typing is
installed and typespeed is not. Heres the link.:
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only have a single RSA host key. But on my Debian 8 servers, there
seems to be three host keys for each ssh server: RSA, EDSA and
ED25519. What is the reason for adding the two extra ssh host keys
on debian 8? What are the implications of removing all but one
(RSA)?
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2098[14:43:56] <TomTomTosch> sefru: did you install without
recommends? are you using a debian derivative?
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2099[14:45:03] <yungmig> thanks TomTomTosch - I got it now :)
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2100[14:45:44] <TomTomTosch> yungmig: you will need to use
update-java-alternatives if you want to use that jre system-wide.
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2103[14:46:32] <xorox90> what is kerberos default password for
kadmin/admin in debian?
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2104[14:46:40] <xorox90> I didn't create, but it exists
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2108[14:47:32] <sefru> TomTomTosch: I am using the normal Debian
8. I don't know what installing without recommends means. I
just installed the package normally with apper. :)
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2110[14:47:37] <simias> hello
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2111[14:48:03] <sefru> Hi simias! :)
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2114[14:48:24] <simias> I can't get my debian box to
regenerate 70-persistent-net.rules no matter what I try
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2115[14:48:31] <simias> rebooting, triggering udevadm by hand
etc..
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2117[14:48:45] <simias> I added a new NIC so I wanted to
regenerate it
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2118[14:49:01] <simias> I have no idea why it doesn't work,
how can I debug that?
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2119[14:50:24] <TomTomTosch> sefru: i'm not familiar with
apper. but it seems it installed the meta package without
recommended packages, which is the reason why the meta package is
installed but not the games it's meant to pull. apt-get install
games-typing should install them.
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2124[14:53:02] <sefru> TomTomTosch: Thanks a lot! :) I now tried
installing the package with apt-get and it seems that it is
installing lots of packeages that weren't installed previously!
=)
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2128[14:53:29] <sefru> TomTomTosch: Really, thanks! =)
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2130[14:53:37] <TomTomTosch> no problem :)
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2138[14:57:56] <simias> ah, it's because of
replaced-url
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2165[15:09:30] <rafalcpp> is Debian planning to add locale
support for San Escobar soon?
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2169[15:11:57] <TomTomTosch> working on it :P
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2171[15:12:57] <jelly> rafalcpp: that's probably a question
for the glibc people not distros
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2176[15:14:39] <rafalcpp> ok =)
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2224[15:28:57] <lostguy> jehy
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2228[15:29:16] <lostguy> what's the software manager of
debian? dpkg or apt-get
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2231[15:30:12] <tomcres> dpkg does the actual
installation/removal of software. apt-get deals with the
repositories and serves as a front-end to dpkg
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2232[15:30:12] <dpkg> tomcres: You are person #1 to send an
unparseable request
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2233[15:30:18] <Night_Elf> Hello all. Can someone explain
something strange, for me at least? I have configured my system with
a static ip address. I have a local cacheing bind9 and my
"nameserver" in /etc/resolv.conf is set to
"127.0.0.1". I have noticed that after some 2 hours of
usage, it gets changed to be "192.168.1.254" which is the
lan dns address as provided by the Lan gateway and dhcp server.
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2234[15:30:34] <Night_Elf> Why does this happen and how can I
stop it from happening?
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2239[15:32:14] <tomcres> night_elf are you using a static IP or
DHCP? you mentioned both
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2241[15:33:10] <Night_Elf> tomcres: It is a static ip address.
("iface eth1 inet static" in /etc/network/interfaces).
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2245[15:34:33] <Night_Elf> My ip address does not change, only
the entry for nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf gets changed from
127.0.0.1 to that 192.168.1.254 which is actually the dns server
that the rest of the pc-s use.
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2247[15:35:37] * tomcres <scratching head>: that's weird
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2251[15:36:46] <Night_Elf> I feel the same. I can manually change
it back to be 127.0.0.1 and use the local bind9 but after some 2
hours or so, it gets again changed to be 192.168.1.254.
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2259[15:42:26] <tomcres> I get the feeling that NetworkManager is
using DHCP. Is dhclient running? `ps ax |grep dhclient`
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2262[15:44:44] <bezaban> resolvonf package and network manager
are common culprits
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2317[16:05:38] <jvelasquez> hi. I've got a docker instance
of debian stable,
replaced-url
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2319[16:06:18] <Pavr> you could remove the resolvconf package
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2320[16:07:02] <Pavr> if that is the thing that breaks your
resolv.conf that is.
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2325[16:09:50] <jvelasquez> Pavr, no. there is no resolvconf
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2331[16:11:23] <jelly> jvelasquez: if a package from debian
messes with /etc/resolv.conf directly, it's buggy
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2334[16:11:37] <jvelasquez>
replaced-url
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2335[16:12:04] <jelly> jvelasquez: did you get your docker from
debian or somewhere else?
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2337[16:12:04] <Pavr> jvelasquez, sounds like a docker problem
then?
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2339[16:12:19] <jvelasquez> No, I think it's the debian
image.
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2340[16:12:29] <jvelasquez> I've been at this a while.
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2355[16:16:24] <TomTomTo1> ... docker itself manipulates
resolv.conf
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2364[16:16:52] <Pavr> what debian tag (release) are you using in
your dockerfile?
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2381[16:17:21] <jelly> jvelasquez: how do you boot this, is this
a container itself?
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2382[16:17:21] <jelly> (there's no kernel in that package
list)
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2383[16:17:21] <jelly> oh, it's debian _inside_ docker.
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2387[16:17:21] * jelly read it completely wrong
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2398[16:17:58] <Pavr> "Regarding DNS settings, in the
absence of the --dns=IP_ADDRESS..., --dns-search=DOMAIN..., or
--dns-opt=OPTION... options, Docker makes each container’s
/etc/resolv.conf look like the /etc/resolv.conf of the host machine
(where the docker daemon runs). When creating the container’s
/etc/resolv.conf, the daemon filters out all localhost IP address
nameserver entries from the host’s original file."
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2399[16:18:03] <Pavr> -
replaced-url
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2483[16:19:05] <jvelasquez> Pavr, I am setting --dns and
--dns-opt in my /etc/default/docker
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2976[16:43:48] <xorox90> is there guys who success on nfsv4 with
kerberos? for me it isn't work any guide for that?
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2998[16:49:43] <eddard> I set up a 4 NIC gateway at home. 1 NIC
connects to the web and 3 serve different subnets (10.10.[123].0)
and have the corresponding x.x.x.1 IP. I can ping all x.x.x.1
addresses from all subnets, but anything else in the othe subnets
remains unreachable. No googled routing stancas in
/etc/network/interfaces have helped. Who can point me at relevant
information?
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3003[16:52:02] <Madda> have you enableds ip_forward ?
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replaced-url
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3026[17:01:30] <eddard> Night_Elf: Thank you. I have NOT fiddled
with /etc/network/options yet, but cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
always returned '1'. Will re-investigate this point. Any
other ideas?
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3028[17:02:45] <Night_Elf> eddard: to what I know the
"1" at /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward would be enough. But
then again I don't know if it is true for debian8, it might
need more.
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3029[17:03:10] <eddard> THis was set by shorewall. I determined
to have a routing issue when even after 'shorewall clear'
nothing went through, but can't remember explicitly whether I
tested the kernel's forwarding state under those conditions.
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3030[17:03:10] <Night_Elf> But up to debian7 it has been enough
to activate ip forward.
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3035[17:03:37] <Night_Elf> eddard: Maybe there's some
iptables rule that prevents it ?
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3036[17:04:10] <Madda> @Night_Elf +1
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3040[17:05:54] <eddard> Night_Elf: wouldn't know where it
could come from and 'shorewall clear' will purge all rules
that shorewall set up ...
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3044[17:06:36] <eddard> Maybe I shlould follow up the
'shorewall clear' with a 'service networking
restart'
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3046[17:07:36] <Night_Elf> eddard: I would think that shorewall
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3047[17:07:53] <eddard> Night_Elf: Yes.
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3049[17:08:10] <Night_Elf> eddard: you could always chheck with
iptpables -L
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3050[17:08:23] <eddard> Night_Elf: Will do.
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3106[17:31:01] <SamsaraSoup> /join #python
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3110[17:32:08] <Guest76043> fuck you goddamn crooked nigger dick
suckin, thieving, girl murdering, Nazi/Jew trash...you goddamn
bastards don't deserve to live...maybe that is why
distrowatch.com listed your user numbers with 666...and drove
everyone to install calculate-linux instead.
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3112[17:32:52] <Guest76043> there are lots of people that know
the ru code is superior.
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3114[17:33:58] <Guest76043> you goddamn thieving, girl murdering
trash don't fuckin deserve to live.
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3120[17:35:50] <ossii> anyone able to shed some light on
oom-killer? after upgrading to kernel 4.8 - 4.9 (from 3.16) I
randomly keep getting processes killed by oom even there is plenty
plenty ram and swap available
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3123[17:36:31] <hottamales> you goddamn crooked nigger dick
suckin, thieving, girl murdering Nazi/Jew bastards need to die and
the sooner the better.
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3125[17:37:26] <mtn> !ops hottamales
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3126[17:37:26] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: mtn complains
about: hottamales
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3127[17:37:30] <Night_Elf> So some people have attention issues ?
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3131[17:38:21] <hottamales> Night_Elf...fuck you turd....you
think helpless innocent murdered girls don't deserve attention
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3136[17:39:04] <Night_Elf> hottamales: In #debian ? No they
don't.
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3137[17:39:39] <dondelelcaro> folks, please don't engage the
trolls, and just call for operators
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3138[17:39:52] <dondelelcaro> (hopefully we'll respond)
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3139[17:39:56] <malacozoan> play -c2 -n synth brownnoise band -n
250 200 tremolo 0.0333333 43 reverb 19 bass -11 treble -1 vol 14dB
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3141[17:40:12] <Night_Elf> dondelelcaro: I couldn't resist.
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3156[17:46:19] <ossii> ref my question, I guess its not possible
to disable it alltogether or revert to pre 4.x kernel behaviour,
these issues was never there before
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3161[17:49:05] <Night_Elf> ossii:
replaced-url
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3162[17:49:31] <Night_Elf> ossii: (excerpt) setting it to -1000
will disable OOM kills entirely, while setting to +1000 is the
equivalent of painting a large target on the associated process.
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3165[17:50:46] <ossii> but the problem comes when the processes
may start and stop naturally and change pids
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3168[17:51:36] <ossii> or rather, why suddenly its so agressive
now while system have ran on 3.1x kernel for a long long time
without problems
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3170[17:52:08] <ossii> I cant even see the memory issue either,
though my knownledge isn't very deep so might be something in
memory management I dont see
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3171[17:52:38] <Night_Elf> True that. And I have no idea how to
answer that. To be honest my servers are (still) in debian7 with 3.x
kernel and in my laptop with a 4.x kernel I don't have that
problem.
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3177[17:53:58] <ossii> hehe yeah, my laptop which I actually use
a lot with many open tabs in browser, citrix connection, email
client and what not runs without any such problems
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3182[17:54:57] <ossii> Jan 18 17:30:55 debian kernel:
[2605291.336723] Free swap = 14323668kB
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3183[17:54:57] <ossii> Jan 18 17:30:55 debian kernel:
[2605291.336723] Total swap = 14331896kB
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3184[17:55:07] <ossii> then kills because oom..
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3186[17:55:31] <ossii> but yeah, will see if anyone else got some
ideas and read up a bit on how to understand the log lines in
regards to this
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3189[17:56:11] <Night_Elf> ossii: is there no setting to, how to
say, relax oom killer a bit ?
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3190[17:56:26] <Night_Elf> I mean the default behaviour?
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3192[17:57:24] <Night_Elf>
replaced-url
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3193[17:58:00] <Night_Elf> ossii: ^
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3195[17:58:31] <ossii> yeah I found some posts with suggestions
how to make it relax a bit, which had no effect
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3197[17:58:57] <johnfg> hi folks
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3200[17:59:46] <johnfg> Any idea what's causing keys not to
repeat? When I first login, all works fine from the keyboard as it
should.
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3201[18:00:24] <johnfg> But after a while, and if I don't
logout, keys (like up or down arrow for history in the cli)
won't repeat.
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3209[18:03:34] <deemel> what do you mean by 'repeat' ?
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3223[18:10:42] <ScottPilgrim> johnfg: How long is "a
while"? Does this happen after minutes or hours or days?
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3224[18:10:51] <johnfg> deemel: If I hold this j key down (which
I just did), I expect it to put in as many j's as I expect,
without having to lift my finger up and hit the key again. It's
not working. Just one j. Then lift and do another j.
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3226[18:11:38] <deemel> aaah okay, didn't get that
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3248[18:22:19] <johnfg> ScottPilgrim: I can't say. It's
kinda random.
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3250[18:22:36] <johnfg> I don't know what, if anything,
triggers the condition.
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3255[18:25:57] <EdePopede> hello all. how much will it break if i
let /bin/sh point to bash instead of dash? and can i simply change
it or do i need special tools?
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3261[18:27:30] <ScottPilgrim> johnfg: I would look at things like
active input methods, locale settings (do "locale" in a
shell), programs you have run that seize control of the input (like
full-screen graphics applications for example), and also check your
control in Gnome or KDE or whatever to see if settings are being
changed there
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3274[18:34:11] <johnfg> ScottPilgrim: Ok, I'll take a look.
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3277[18:34:51] <johnfg> locale shows en_US.UTF-8 for all.
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3281[18:35:58] <jelly> EdePopede: nothing is supposed to break,
both are allowed as /bin/sh
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3282[18:36:44] <jelly> EdePopede: if you have custom scripts
using /bin/sh in #! line consider fixing them, instead
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3283[18:36:48] <EdePopede> jelly: sounds good. so no system
scripts or hatever stuff relying on special dash features?
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3284[18:37:05] <EdePopede> jelly: my problem is mc's
subshell / user menu :/
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3285[18:37:19] <jelly> EdePopede: scripts using /bin/sh only rely
on POSIX sh functionality
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3286[18:37:21] <EdePopede> /bin/sh ois hardcoded afaik
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3289[18:37:33] <johnfg> ScottPilgrim: In the gnome control
center, Hardware/Keyboard, repeat key was on. But I unchecked it,
then checked it again, and I got repeat back (without having to
logout).
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3290[18:37:40] <jelly> EdePopede: mc does not use your login
shell?
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3292[18:37:58] <johnfg> I still don't know what's
causing the problem though.
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3294[18:38:12] <EdePopede> jelly: not sure if still actual:
replaced-url
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