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11 [00:08:59] <deadmarshal> hi. vlc won't close when I
close it and it's running in task manager, why is this
happening. when I click close button I want it to close
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14 [00:09:39] <pete4242> Every time you start it or just now?
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16 [00:09:49] <pete4242> Open up a terminal and use xkill
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18 [00:10:15] <humpled> with some desktops vlc stays in the
taskbar, ready to open more files
19 [00:10:17] <deadmarshal> every time I start it, it won't
close
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21 [00:10:37] <deadmarshal> humpled: it won't open more
files when it's in task bar
22 [00:11:20] <humpled> i don't see why not
23 [00:11:24] <pete4242> deadmarshal: Start vlc from a terminal
and look at the output. That's always a good starting point
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27 [00:12:53] <deadmarshal> QObject::~QObject: Timers cannot be
stopped from another thread
28 [00:12:59] <deadmarshal> in terminal
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34 [00:15:18] <pete4242> Is that the only output?
35 [00:15:40] <pete4242> I get that message too and my vlc
closes normally
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38 [00:17:07] <ninja> deadmarshal: there is mpv, mplayer,
smplayer.
39 [00:17:19] <ninja> I personaly like mpv
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41 [00:18:42] <ninja> its programbale, I use it for almost every
mediatype
42 [00:18:53] <deadmarshal>
replaced-url
43 [00:18:56] <SerajewelKS> seems like it's a bug that
should be reported to the vlc package maintainers
44 [00:19:08] <ninja> maybe
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48 [00:25:46] <rant> I have a basic static p2p vpn using openvpn
between two buster machines and its connecting but I am unable to
ping from either side
49 [00:27:00] <rant>
replaced-url
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51 [00:27:57] <rant> the client config is identical, just has
the remote 10.0.0.44 at the top
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54 [00:29:33] <ninja> rant: #openvpn
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80 [00:54:06] <muneytree>
replaced-url
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82 [00:56:44] <Bushmills> rant: do your routing tables contain
entries for routing vpn net traffic through vpn interfaces?
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86 [00:59:55] <rant> Bushmills: certainly seems so 192.168.4.2
dev tun0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.4.1
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88 [01:03:43] <Bushmills> tun0 ip addresses on both systems are
as expected, 192.168.4.1 and 192.168.4.2 (sorry, must ask that, as
I'm only familiar with server and clients setups, not p2p)?
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92 [01:07:24] <Bushmills> (as you said "identical" -
it may be that you didn't switch local and remote addresses)
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216 [02:42:56] <ZaZaGX> I am in love with Debian
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224 [02:46:24] <semmi_pi> ahoi debian and -ers :)=
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231 [02:47:49] <semmi_pi> wonder ~what~ gets this
debian-planetsystem so stable over all that years
232 [02:48:39] <semmi_pi> sry .. i mean -> s o l a r - system
~*
233 [02:49:33] <ZaZaGX> no idea
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235 [02:50:52] <semmi_pi> into beginning i tryed (a short time
-> red-hat and suse) others ...
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237 [02:51:16] <semmi_pi> but since that -> only debian
(sometimes stable ... sometimes ~~)
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239 [02:52:27] <semmi_pi> i mean: consistente behavior
(especially with apt and tude later)
240 [02:53:07] <semmi_pi> did give me a stable behavior also all
over the time
241 [02:53:21] <semmi_pi> (^_^)
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244 [02:55:01] <semmi_pi> ( any thats [maybe?] not the time to
thank for ... here and now :;)
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246 [02:55:34] <semmi_pi>
replaced-url
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249 [02:55:47] <krukudilo> how to change dns server?
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251 [02:57:05] <Bushmills> apt purge old-server; apt install
new-server
252 [02:57:06] <semmi_pi> do you use that network-manager ?
253 [02:57:22] <Oksana> Generic question: is 'ps -Af
something' supposed to work?
254 [02:57:59] <Oksana> Because I get process ID list syntax
error
255 [02:58:03] <semmi_pi> ps xa
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257 [02:58:15] <semmi_pi> i only use ,m9
258 [02:58:26] <dognosewhiskers> I have installed Debian in a
VMware VM, and when I'm at the default desktop, I'm trying
to install the "VMware Tools" to get a sane resolution and
performance. It's telling me to "open a terminal",
but when I go to the menu and search for "Terminal" and
click the terminal icon, nothing happens. Same thing if I launch the
"Files" GUI application and go to the VMware disc and
right-click and press "Open in Terminal". Nothing happens.
It just
259 [02:58:26] <dognosewhiskers> freezes for a while and then
nothing.
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263 [02:59:56] <Oksana> semmi_pi: Is it supposed to work like ps
xa something? Should something be enclosed in quotes or not? Because
by now I get 'TTY could not be found'
264 [03:00:17] <semmi_pi> depends onto "shell"
265 [03:00:27] <semmi_pi> i only use x-term
266 [03:00:35] <semmi_pi> (near to ansi)
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269 [03:01:17] <dognosewhiskers> Sometimes I wonder if they serve
me some sort of fake.iso every time I try Linux, because
there's always something really fundamental broken which nobody
else ever seems to experience...
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272 [03:02:09] <semmi_pi> old shell with ansi-colors is enought
for me
273 [03:02:17] <CaptainDusty> dognosewhiskers: Is there a
'gnome-terminal' option? Or try alt + f2 and launch
`gnome-terminal`
274 [03:02:52] <karlpinc> dognosewhiskers: Do you know about
this:
275 [03:02:58] <karlpinc> !firmware images
276 [03:02:58] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available
from
replaced-url
277 [03:03:13] <CaptainDusty> I guess it depends on your desktop
environment, btw.
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279 [03:03:38] <karlpinc> dognosewhiskers: That can help alot
when it comes to flaky problems. (Although nothing to do with
opening a terminal.)
280 [03:03:55] <semmi_pi> dpkg: -l
281 [03:03:55] <dpkg> Files in package semmi_pi-pr0n:
/srv/semmi_pi-pr0n/semmi_pi.jpg
282 [03:04:26] <karlpinc> dognosewhiskers: I've noticed than
when dns is entirely broken my desktop (xfce4) won't open a
terminal. Could be related.
283 [03:04:44] <semmi_pi> _/_ @@@
284 [03:04:44] <semmi_pi> [h[x]- @@
285 [03:04:44] <semmi_pi> /_ )@@@
286 [03:04:44] <semmi_pi> |@@@@@@
287 [03:04:44] <semmi_pi> @@@@ \ \
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289 [03:05:06] <CaptainDusty> karlpinc: Legit?
290 [03:05:17] <CaptainDusty> Ugh.
291 [03:05:18] <karlpinc> CaptainDusty: ?
292 [03:06:04] <CaptainDusty> karlpinc: That you can't open
terminal with broken dns.
293 [03:06:13] <karlpinc> CaptainDusty: Yes.
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295 [03:06:58] <semmi> oh.. why i get kicked from this socket
only for sending ascii-sequence ?
296 [03:06:58] <karlpinc> CaptainDusty: Probably the dns timeout
(20 sec) is longer than some other timeout, so the resolver never
gets to "localhost" (or something) in /etc/hosts.
That's my random guess.
297 [03:07:12] <karlpinc> !tell semmi about paste
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299 [03:07:51] <karlpinc> semmi: We don't want the channel
plogged up. Especially not with stuff unrelated to support.
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301 [03:08:11] <karlpinc> dognosewhiskers: I can still work in a
vt.
302 [03:08:12] <karlpinc> !vt
303 [03:08:12] <dpkg> rumour has it, vt is Virtual Terminal, like
the console; change VTs using Alt+Left/Right or Alt+F1, Alt+F2 etc.
To get from X to a VT, use Ctrl+Alt+F1 (and Alt+F7 to get back, most
likely). You can also use "chvt" to switch VT. VT is also
used to mean Intel VT-x or VT-d (virtualization support; the AMD
counterpart is called AMD-V or Pacifica), ask me about <xve>.
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308 [03:09:47] <Bushmills> hosts is by default consulted before
name servers are queried. with localhost in hosts there's,
unless order has changed, no involvement of network
309 [03:10:26] <CaptainDusty> The idea of a terminal failing to
open due to DNS issues seems a bit more of a fundamental design
issue than just a current problem :P
310 [03:10:42] <CaptainDusty> Probably systemd's fault. (jk
jk, or am I..)
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313 [03:11:34] <semmi> system 5 daemon or the new one ?
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315 [03:12:28] <semmi> i only know to install ( all 5 years if
hardware is broken ) ...
316 [03:12:31] <Oksana> semmi_pi: In the end, ps aux | grep
something is more reliable than just, say, ps -C something. Just,
tiresome...
317 [03:12:38] <semmi> with rc.1 2 3 ... :_)
318 [03:12:43] <Bushmills> there must be some additional config
aspect than just "launching a terminal", that alone
doesn't need network or dns
319 [03:12:44] <karlpinc> Bushmills: Yeah. my nsswitch.conf
confirms your lookup ordering. So there's something else going
on. It is probably related to my using separate boxes for X client
and server.
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321 [03:13:29] <semmi> i mean to edit the configs manual with vi
(also for networking)
322 [03:13:41] <karlpinc> So that then (might) have nothing to do
with dognosewhiskers' problem. Although it might, since there
could be some virtual network magic involved because he's using
vmware. Dunno.
323 [03:14:01] <semmi> but times changed (i am also use thet
networkmanager sometimes)
324 [03:14:06] <CaptainDusty> But again; thid distracts from a
design problem.
325 [03:14:12] <Oksana> TO be fair, ps aux and ps -ef and ps -Af
is all the same thing.
326 [03:15:05] <semmi> i am happy if i have not to much scroll up
after "ps" ;)
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328 [03:15:23] <semmi> to see what daemons are running
329 [03:15:46] <Bushmills> consider to have a look at htop
330 [03:15:47] <semmi> and what "kind" of .)
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344 [03:21:13] <semmi> CaptainDusty: you could pipe it throught
awk ;)
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348 [03:22:55] <muneytree>
replaced-url
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351 [03:24:40] <semmi>
replaced-url
352 [03:25:25] <karlpinc> What's with the youtube links?
You'll get banned for spam.
353 [03:25:52] <semmi> please bann me
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357 [03:27:57] <karlpinc> !ops semmi would like to be banned for
spam
358 [03:27:58] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall:
karlpinc complains about a problem (see above)
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360 [03:28:27] <rant> Bushmills: no, its setup right, the routes
are reversed
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363 [03:29:25] <Bushmills> rant, so output of ifconfig shows for
the tun interface behind the local ip address also the peer ip
address?
364 [03:30:08] <rant> inet 192.168.4.1 netmask 255.255.255.255
destination 192.168.4.2
365 [03:30:34] <Bushmills> looks good. then my guess is firewall
- you didn't allow traffic incoming for tun0
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367 [03:31:21] <rant> I dont have any firewall
368 [03:31:29] <Bushmills> Out of ideas then
369 [03:32:27] <karlpinc> rant: Don't know what your problem
is, but I often use tcpdump on both ends and watch what's
actually happening and find that helps.
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375 [03:34:03] <semmi> i feel like a netcat now (after all of ~s
p a m .. from what words i sayed [sry my bad engl.lang.know])
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381 [03:36:18] <semmi> is context about ip-table-rules problem or
config/installing kind of ;) ? [or smalltalk]
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383 [03:37:18] <semmi> ...smalltalk 8-]~
384 [03:37:23] <semmi> ?
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387 [03:37:53] <semmi> (or man/help/problemsolving?)
388 [03:38:33] <SerajewelKS> semmi: i have no idea what
you're talking about. if english is not your first language,
consider joining the debian channel for users who share your
language.
389 [03:38:40] <semmi> i mean here into chat-channel (^_^) ... i
am new here (normally i want to get into haxe + blender channnel ...
390 [03:39:29] <semmi> ... but something did drives me into here
[may i get problem with my window-manager ...]
391 [03:39:40] <SerajewelKS> if you have a question about debian,
please ask. if you don't speak english well, join the channel
for your language. otherwise, other chat is off-topic.
392 [03:39:45] <karlpinc> semmi: If you want to talk in general
you can go to #debian-offtopic.
393 [03:39:53] <karlpinc> semmi: This channel is for debian
support.
394 [03:40:05] <semmi> oh.. i didnt knowed (sry
395 [03:40:06] <semmi> )
396 [03:40:15] <semmi> *waves to all
397 [03:40:34] <semmi> see ya muchacho..s
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403 [03:42:59] <annadane> and now the mods are pinged for no
reason :P
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407 [03:46:34] * karlpinc feels so adult. Having been a part of
handling the issue. ;-)
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457 [04:37:24] <rant> yeah idk.. the damn vpn is connecting, the
logs show traffic, the routing tables show routes between
192.168.4.1 and 192.168.4.2.. but one can't ping the other and
neither is running any firewalling software, and just for the hell
of it I tried iptables on both ends, nothing..
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459 [04:39:40] <rant> this is a bit ridiculous :D I got both
machines sitting here side by side on the same network and
can't get them to talk over openvpn
460 [04:40:19] <rant> I can access the client outside the vpn
over the lan just fine
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475 [04:55:16] <swift110> hey
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480 [05:03:50] <sakty> wow
481 [05:03:54] <sakty> many peole here
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483 [05:05:34] <sakty> hello
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487 [05:10:05] <sakty> test
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489 [05:10:34] <sakty> hi preview
490 [05:11:48] <preview> hi
491 [05:12:02] <sakty> do u use debian?
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493 [05:12:25] <sakty> hi nexgen
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508 [05:21:34] <sakty> test
509 [05:21:39] <sakty> lol
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521 [05:32:28] <swift110> hey sakty
522 [05:32:46] <sakty> hey swift110
523 [05:32:53] <sakty> are u on telegram?
524 [05:33:14] <sakty> i have ever seen that username
525 [05:33:20] <swift110> yes i am
526 [05:33:46] <sakty> ah
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625 [06:54:55] <dognosewhiskers> Why, when I right-click a .sh
file, is there no "Run" command?
626 [06:55:09] <dognosewhiskers> The only thing that happens when
I double-click it is it opens a text editor with it.
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628 [06:55:46] <alkisg> dognosewhiskers: which desktop
environment and file manager?
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630 [06:56:00] <sansakerta> hey
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632 [06:56:29] <sakty> anyone use debian?
633 [06:56:40] <dognosewhiskers> alkisg: Whatever is the default.
634 [06:56:47] <dognosewhiskers> And "Files".
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636 [06:56:51] <alkisg> "1499 users in #debian room"; I
guess some here do... :)
637 [06:57:10] <sakty> i dont think so
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639 [06:57:29] <warsoul> sakty read channel name :)
640 [06:57:38] <sakty> most people use arch
641 [06:57:41] <alkisg> dognosewhiskers: is the file executable,
does it have the +x attribute?
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643 [06:58:11] <dognosewhiskers> It's a .sh, so of course
it's executable?
644 [06:58:22] <dognosewhiskers> It's specifically the
VMware Tools installation script.
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646 [06:58:24] <alkisg> dognosewhiskers: no, linux doesn't
care about extensions at all
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649 [06:58:37] <alkisg> dognosewhiskers: right click properties
and make it executable
650 [06:59:06] <sakty> oh this is debian room
651 [06:59:16] <dognosewhiskers> "You are not the owner, so
you can not change these permissions." it says.
652 [06:59:25] <sakty> where is linux room
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654 [06:59:33] <alkisg> dognosewhiskers: did you download it
using sudo? where is the file, in which path?
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656 [07:00:05] <dognosewhiskers> It's in a virtual CD-ROM.
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658 [07:00:20] <sakty> use flash disk
659 [07:00:29] <alkisg> dognosewhiskers: then it's read
only, so it's easier if you open a terminal to run it
660 [07:00:31] <dognosewhiskers> The path appears to be concealed
from the user.
661 [07:00:43] <dognosewhiskers> alkisg: Yeah, but if I try to
open a Terminal, literally nothing happens.
662 [07:00:47] <alkisg> open a terminal, and type: bash
/path/to/script.sh
663 [07:00:58] <dognosewhiskers> sakty: What do you mean by
"use"? It's simply on a virtual CD-ROM. Not my
choice.
664 [07:01:09] <alkisg> dognosewhiskers: you mean that you
can't open terminals in your installation? sounds broken then?
665 [07:01:13] <dognosewhiskers> That alternative terminal X-Term
does open, though.
666 [07:01:21] <dognosewhiskers> alkisg: Sure sounds broken...
667 [07:01:21] <sakty> dognosewhiskers oh
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669 [07:01:38] <alkisg> dognosewhiskers: eh, I'd start with
fixing it first, before continuing with installing more things :)
670 [07:02:09] <dognosewhiskers> Fixing what? I didn't code
this OS.
671 [07:02:16] <dognosewhiskers> I just downloaded the latest
stable ISO.
672 [07:02:40] <alkisg> dognosewhiskers: well, all users are
supposed to be able to open terminals; it's something broken in
your specific case, not the os in general
673 [07:03:20] <alkisg> In any case, if you can't make it
via the terminal, copy the iso contents to your home dir, and then
make it executable and run it
674 [07:03:41] <alkisg> As I said, the terminal way would be:
bash /path/to/installer.sh
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676 [07:05:06] <dognosewhiskers> It just gives more and more
bizarre errors whatever I type, including your command in the CD-ROM
dir.
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678 [07:05:26] <alkisg> You can put all the terminal contents in
pastebin
679 [07:05:27] <alkisg> !paste
680 [07:05:28] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use for text:
replaced-url
681 [07:05:33] <dognosewhiskers> I can't see what could
possibly be unique about my ISO which I downloaded from the official
site.
682 [07:05:38] <sakty> !paste test
683 [07:05:38] <dpkg> test: put your output on
replaced-url
684 [07:06:07] <sakty> interesting
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693 [07:15:52] <annadane> i see this turned into
replaced-url
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695 [07:17:13] <kirk781> annadane, lol
696 [07:17:14] <sakty> lol wat
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700 [07:20:21] <sakty> which client do u guys use
701 [07:20:47] <kirk781> Hexchat here
702 [07:21:07] <sakty> its bad when select text
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710 [07:28:10] <mlshew> karlpinc: About my Bind9 dnssec issue
hours ago: Thanks. There is no bug report on this problem. I'll
do more testing before opening one. (I haven't tested to see if
the problem exists in stretch, for one.)
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712 [07:28:34] <mlshew> karlpinc: About my Bind9 dnssec issue
hours ago: Thanks. There is no bug report on this problem. I'll
do more testing before opening one. (I haven't tested to see if
the problem exists in stretch, for one.)
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714 [07:30:23] <mlshew> Jhutchins_wk: Oops. I meant to address my
last/second statement above to you instead of karlpinc.
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716 [07:30:51] <annadane> and twice. and twice.
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718 [07:32:15] <mlshew> (Apologies. Editing error on top of
editing error.)
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722 [07:36:45] <dognosewhiskers> My computer doesn't power
off, my Debian in a VM doesn't work, everything is broken and
shitty and I fucking hate all of this. And the problems just keep
piling on. They never stop. They never get resolved. And eventually,
it's like a digital mountain of problems weighing you down...
723 [07:37:09] <dognosewhiskers> I have about 9 billion
programming questions which are impossible to get answered as
well...
724 [07:37:28] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: Could you please
elaborate?
725 [07:37:45] <Oksana> I sometimes have "Doesn't
hibernate" or "Doesn't shut down" problems, as
well
726 [07:37:57] <Oksana> And I run CentOS7 in a VM
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728 [07:38:38] <sakty> do u guys know where can i find free vps
lifetime
729 [07:38:45] <dognosewhiskers> Oksana: After Windows has shut
down and the monitor has lost a signal, it still has the power
button LED lit, and some fan is still spinning. Started happening in
the last week with no changes in OS/software/hardware.
730 [07:39:01] <kirk781> Doesn't a newer version of Cent OS
exists?
731 [07:39:07] <dognosewhiskers> I think it's breaking
down... But the last thing I want to do is deal with buying and
getting and installing another compromised junkbox.
732 [07:39:34] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: Compromised, as in,
Microsoft Windows?
733 [07:39:54] <dognosewhiskers> Intel/AMD backdoors.
734 [07:40:10] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: What about ARM?
735 [07:40:29] <dognosewhiskers> What about it? Doesn't run
anything.
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737 [07:40:57] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: On my laptop, I have a
tiny LCD panel which lets me see power, battery, hard drive access,
WiFi. With this, I can see clearly whether laptop shut down or not.
But I understand that may be trickier with desktops.
738 [07:41:07] <Oksana> ARM is neither Intel nor AMD?
739 [07:41:13] <dognosewhiskers> "The Intel Management
Engine always runs as long as the motherboard is receiving power,
even when the computer is turned off." <-- Makes my skin
crawl to think that nobody is protesting this, just going along with
it.
740 [07:41:18] <Oksana> Does ARM have backdoors?
741 [07:41:56] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: I use 10yo laptop, it
probably doesn't have Intel Management Engine, no idea.
742 [07:42:03] <dognosewhiskers> If they sell it to people in
stores, it has backdoors.
743 [07:42:43] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: Regarding fan, see
replaced-url
744 [07:43:02] <dognosewhiskers> How long is that laptop gonna
last? And it's quite naive to think that they didn't build
in all kinds of nastiness in 2009...
745 [07:43:34] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: Or you can just disable
intel management engine interface altogether, in device manager.
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747 [07:44:17] <dognosewhiskers> Stupid joke.
748 [07:44:30] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: I have pre-ordered
Dragonbox Pyra, it's a fairly open-source open-hardware device
with ARM processor, so should be better than standard Intel/AMD
things.
749 [07:44:36] <dognosewhiskers> It's hardware. Not some
Windows "driver".
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751 [07:44:49] <dognosewhiskers> It's a completely separate
computer sitting on top of your CPU, with its own everything.
752 [07:45:03] <dognosewhiskers> And somehow, nobody is worried
about this whatsoever.
753 [07:45:08] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: Well, unless you dive
into electronics and desolder something, disabling the hardware is
the best you can do?
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755 [07:45:28] <dognosewhiskers> It cannot be disabled.
That's the whole point.
756 [07:45:32] <Oksana> disabling the driver and hence ceasing to
use this hardware.
757 [07:45:41] <dognosewhiskers> You must be joking...
758 [07:46:24] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: Cannot be disabled, how
so? Have you tried? go to "intel management engine
interface" right click then click properties, click driver tab,
then click disable, click ok, you dont need the intel management
driver or what ever it does
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760 [07:46:43] <dognosewhiskers> Are you acting stupid?
761 [07:46:53] <dognosewhiskers> Do you understand the concept of
hardware versus software?
762 [07:46:56] <dognosewhiskers> It's a hardware thing.
763 [07:47:15] <dognosewhiskers> The whole point is that it
cannot be disabled. They force it on you with every computer.
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765 [07:47:27] <dognosewhiskers> AMD has their own version, so
you can't "buy from AMD instead".
766 [07:48:07] <Oksana> Hmm... Strictly speaking, none of the
known methods disables the ME completely, since it is required for
booting the main CPU. All known methods merely make the ME go into
abnormal states soon after boot, in which it seems not to have any
working functionality. The ME is still physically connected to the
current and its microprocessor is continuing to execute code.
767 [07:48:15] <Oksana> What about ARM?
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770 [07:48:58] <Oksana> In 2016, the me_cleaner project found
that the ME's integrity verification is broken. The ME is
supposed to detect that it has been tampered with, and, if this is
the case, shut down the PC forcibly after every 30 minutes after
system start. This prevents a compromised system from running
undetected, yet allows the owner to fix the issue by flashing a
valid version of the ME firmware during the grace period. As the
project found out, b
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772 [07:49:59] <dognosewhiskers> Are you a bot?
773 [07:50:03] <Oksana> Also, as Intel has confirmed, the ME
contains a switch to enable government authorities such as the NSA
to make the ME go into High-Assurance Platform (HAP) mode after
boot. This mode disables most of ME's functions. Most machines
sold on the retail market can be tricked into activating the switch.
Manipulation of the HAP bit was quickly incorporated into the
me_cleaner project
774 [07:50:16] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: No, I am not a bot, just
a fairly persistent human.
775 [07:50:23] <dognosewhiskers> Try finding ARM-based desktop
computers which run (real) Windows.
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780 [07:56:05] <jadax> does kernel 4.19 support AMD 3600 + x570
based motherboard?
781 [07:56:09] <jadax> I'm having some freezes
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785 [07:58:01] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: Run Windows... Ouch...
What about Mac computers with ARM processors?
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793 [08:03:04] <jadax> is there a debian out there with kernel
5.x ?
794 [08:03:18] <jadax> I'm on AMD 3600 and apparently it
works better with newest kernel
795 [08:03:39] <jadax> (my OS had frozen today few times)
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804 [08:07:13] <ZaZaGX> hi jadaz
805 [08:07:20] <ZaZaGX> jadax
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807 [08:09:21] <ZaZaGX> have you tired debian sid?
808 [08:09:30] <ZaZaGX> tried
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810 [08:09:45] <jadax> I'm on buster now
811 [08:09:52] <jadax> kernel 4.19
812 [08:09:56] <ZaZaGX> thats running kernel 5.2
813 [08:10:03] <jadax> is sid somehow stable?
814 [08:10:10] <ZaZaGX> no idea
815 [08:10:11] <ZaZaGX> lol
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818 [08:10:27] <jadax> lol
819 [08:10:35] <jadax> funny
820 [08:10:49] <ZaZaGX> all i know is that it has the lastest
kernel and you can upgrade it every 6 hours
821 [08:11:06] <ZaZaGX> err update
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823 [08:11:46] <sakty> hi jadax
824 [08:11:58] <sakty>
ec2-18-223-250-193.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com whats your
password
825 [08:11:59] <Oksana> dognosewhiskers: See
replaced-url
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827 [08:12:35] <EoflaOE> jadax: SID is Still In Development
828 [08:12:56] <jadax> ask Bezos
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832 [08:17:56] <spectre> howdy
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843 [08:30:33] <jadax> what if I just install kernel 5.x next to
my 4.19 on debian stable?
844 [08:30:37] <jadax> and boot either
845 [08:30:50] <alkisg> jadax: sure, you can get 5.2 from testing
and use either
846 [08:31:36] <jadax> do I just apt-get install kernel-5x ?
847 [08:31:49] <alkisg> No, google about how you can selectively
install things from testing
848 [08:32:01] <jadax> ok, ok
849 [08:32:03] <alkisg> It involves adding sources list and
setting priority
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898 [09:09:59] <jadax> does anybody here run buster (kernel 4.19)
on AMD series 3 CPU?
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909 [09:20:29] <spectre> i do
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912 [09:21:27] <spectre> shit i dibt read the whole thing
913 [09:21:45] <spectre> not sure what series
914 [09:22:49] <spectre> i know its amd tho
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916 [09:25:41] <spectre> idk if i can be helpful tho i just
finished installing it 4 the first time
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918 [09:26:48] <jadax> spectre any problems?
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920 [09:26:55] <jadax> I started experiencing OS freezes today
921 [09:27:05] <jadax> trying to understand if my kernel could be
part of the problem
922 [09:27:12] <jadax> ambient temps are higher today than usual
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925 [09:31:13] <spectre> no freezes yet
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928 [09:32:51] <jadax> are you on x570 chipset?
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933 [09:39:54] <spectre> im not sure i dont know a lot about
hardware stuff yet, its a dell inspirion series if that helps?
934 [09:40:37] <spectre> i found the specs but under chipset
theres a list of stuff
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938 [09:42:53] <jadax> there are 3 AMD chipsets - B450, x470 and
x570
939 [09:42:58] <jadax> the last one is significantly warmer
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954 [09:52:10] <mad_monk> Hello All. I just moved from Debian 9
(stretch) to Debian 10 (buster).
955 [09:52:19] <mad_monk> Currently I am running Debian 10
(minimal install - without GUI) on VMWare Workstation (12 and 15).
Everything works fine and during the bootup, the interface picks up
IP address from the VMWare DHCP Server.
956 [09:52:27] <mad_monk> However, after some time, the auto
renewal of IP is not happening - which means the machine looses
it's IP after some time (failed to obtain IP address).
957 [09:52:31] <mad_monk> If I explicitly run the dhclient, the
interface immediately picks up an IP address.
958 [09:52:35] <mad_monk> This problem is only with Debian 10
(and not with Debian 9).
959 [09:52:37] <mad_monk> Any indicators / pointers on how to
troubleshoot this issue?
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962 [09:56:40] <kasun> helo, pleasure to meet you all
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994 [10:21:17] <OS-54614> /msg NickServ REGISTER DhfrFsW1K9P
richardcurteis@gmail.com
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996 [10:22:10] <pasiz> mad_monk: with wireshark you could watch
traffic and filter dhcp request to see is the problem on client or
server side
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1000 [10:23:38] <pasiz> mad_monk: also logs in client and server
side could provide you information, but from real traffic you see
what's exactly whats happening on network.
1001 [10:23:48] <mad_monk> @pasiz - thanks - is there a way to
find out / debug the auto-renew process of dhcp client
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1003 [10:23:52] <mad_monk> ok
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1088 [11:27:52] <hans_> `sleep infinity` is undocumented (in `man
sleep` at least)
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1093 [11:31:16] <alkisg> ...and not always available: busybox
sleep infinity => sleep: invalid number 'infinity'
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1098 [11:34:30] <hans_> alkisg, debian ships with gnu sleep, not
busybox, last i checked
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1100 [11:34:50] <alkisg> hans_: debian initramfs has busybox, not
gnu sleep
1101 [11:34:57] <alkisg> So it depends on where your code runs ;)
1102 [11:36:34] * alkisg has been writing code that runs in the
initramfs for the last 3 months, and is heavily biased :P
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1104 [11:37:10] <boser> ich wünsche allen ein frohes,
friedliches Feiertag. Maria Himmelfahrt
1105 [11:37:16] <hans_> alkisg, `man dd` documents
`status=progress`, but busybox dd does not support `status=progress`
- why is `sleep infinity` not supposed to be documented
"because busybox does not support it" when `dd
status=progress` is supposed to be documented *despite* busybox dd
not supporting it? it's inconsistent :o
1106 [11:37:48] <alkisg> hans_: ah, I wasn't saying "not
supposed to document it"; I was saying "sleep infinity
won't work outside of gnu sleep"
1107 [11:38:00] <alkisg> I.e. not very portable as code
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1112 [11:40:03] <hans_> OpenBSD dd does not support
status=progress either, but is `status=progress` supported outside
of GNU dd?
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1114 [11:42:02] <hans_> "we don't document `sleep
infinity` because it's not portable" sounds like a bad
argument if we document `dd status=progress` despite it not being
portable (if it isn't? idk)
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1180 [12:21:53] <zalt> are there disadvantages to mount binds?,
i'm thinking of moving /var and /home to a seperate partition
on an hdd, and keep the operating system on an ssd (it's a vm)
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1183 [12:22:49] <zalt> or i could just go to a store now and buy a
new ssd
1184 [12:23:07] * zalt 90% of his budget this month was spent on
hardware
1185 [12:23:30] <Bushmills> buying an SSD doesn't exclude
possibility of bind mounts
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1187 [12:23:53] <Bushmills> but it offers additional advantages
which can't be delivered by mount
1188 [12:24:55] <zalt> currently the entire thing is on an hdd,
which is wrong
1189 [12:25:05] * zalt mount binds cost $0
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1191 [12:26:08] <hop> i'm also confused… what do
those two things have to do with each other?
1192 [12:26:38] <hop> also, why not move /var and /home to their
own partitions, LVs, whatever and use ordinary mounts?
1193 [12:26:47] <zalt> they both achieve the effect of making the
operating system faster
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1195 [12:27:07] <zalt> hmm, because that seems weird to me
1196 [12:27:08] <hop> zalt: so does dropping the machine out of a
window in the 20th floor…
1197 [12:27:29] <hop> zalt: weird?? how? why?
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1199 [12:27:54] <zalt> i don't know, i don't like too
many moving parts
1200 [12:28:04] <hop> o.O
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1203 [12:28:13] <hop> how is a bind mount less moving or less of a
part?
1204 [12:29:07] <zalt> umm, resizing
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1211 [12:30:31] <hop> not following
1212 [12:31:23] <zalt> hop, well, it's simpler for me to deal
with a single partition, i think having 3+ partitions is overkill,
especially when it is a virtual machine
1213 [12:31:56] <zalt> i know people have partitions for /boot,
/var, /home, and swap, and probably more
1214 [12:32:18] <hop> yeah, and all those people do it because
they are masochists
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1216 [12:33:28] <zalt> are you saying there are advantages to
using multiple partitions
1217 [12:33:34] <Bushmills> on machines with many disk accesses it
can make a lot of sense to distribute head seek times over several
devices
1218 [12:35:28] <hop> zalt: even if you go with bind mounts, you
are dealing with two partitions…
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1220 [12:35:33] <hop> i.e. "multiple"
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1222 [12:36:30] <hop> i'm just saying your reasoning is
nonsense. do the bind mounts or not, that's not what makes your
os faster
1223 [12:37:17] <zalt> i didn't suggest that bind mounts are
going to make it faster or slower
1224 [12:37:40] <hop> 12:26 < zalt> they both achieve the
effect of making the operating system faster
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1226 [12:38:33] <Bushmills> not even mentioning IO from and to
seperate disks through multiple interfaces rather than just a single
one.
1227 [12:38:41] <hop> i'd even wager that so much of your
system is in ram, it won't be affected by disk writes to /var
in the first place
1228 [12:38:56] <hop> or vice versa
1229 [12:39:01] <zalt> "both" is referring to (option1:
buying and ssd and moving everything to it, option2: doing bind
mounts / or partitions)
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1231 [12:39:26] <hop> and we were talking about the orthogonality
of bind mounts and ssds
1232 [12:39:53] <hop> even mounts have nothing to do with
performance, unless what Bushmills says holds for your machine
1233 [12:40:09] <zalt> Well, maybe i didn't explain my
situation well enough
1234 [12:40:33] <hop> hence our confusion?
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1236 [12:40:51] <zalt> I DO have an SSD, but the file system is
too big to fit in it, so what i was thinking about is, move those
huge directories /var and /home to an hhd, so that everything else
fits in the SSD :)
1237 [12:41:33] * zalt hopes that he started to make sense
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1239 [12:41:56] <Bushmills> and /usr/doc :)
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1243 [12:43:29] <hop> what actually is "the rest"?
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1245 [12:43:41] <Bushmills> with var there may be the problem that
bind mounting requires system already booted, while /var contents
are already needed while system still boots.
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1247 [12:45:54] <Bushmills> mounting var conventionally from
another disk, which in one of its dirs contains home should do,
though
1248 [12:45:55] <zalt> hop, Step 1: create a parittion on the hdd,
Step 2: cp -rp /home /mnt/new_partition Step 3: delete /home, step
4: bind mount /mnt/new_partition/home -> /home, step 5: move the
entire file of the virtual machine that has become smaller to my SSD
1249 [12:46:46] <zalt> Bushmills, hmm, i didn't consider
that, this might be a reason to use regular mounts then
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1251 [12:48:30] <bolovanos> hithere, I have clonezilled image of
my VPS which I have tryed to revive using clonezilla liveCD into
local virtualbox. Disk was created (without any visible problems),
but rebooting ends up with "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init
found. Try passing init= option to kernel...". This happens
even in recovery mode. Any idea?
1252 [12:48:48] <Bushmills> I can't say for sure whether bind
mounting would fail - still it's something to be careful about.
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1254 [12:50:30] <zalt> i'm running *cought cough* windows,
and 90% of my time is spent in linux, i'm considering swapping
how things work, so that i run linux natively, and run windows in
Qemu / maybe with gpu passthrough
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1258 [12:51:16] * Bushmills googles that funny word "windows"
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1260 [12:51:37] <zalt> but i don't know how gpu passthrough
works, anyone has experience with that?, are there reasons against
this? :D
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1264 [12:52:04] <ZaZaGX> hi
1265 [12:52:35] <zalt> Bushmills, it is indeed funny, debian even
in an hdd runs smoother than windows
1266 [12:53:46] <hop> no duh
1267 [12:54:16] <zalt> i don't think there'd be any
problem in running windows in vm CPU-wise, my CPU is good enough for
this, but i don't know what the situation is like with the GPU
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1274 [12:58:51] <hop> what's the meaning of "*" and
"!" after the queue id in the output of postqueue?
1275 [12:59:23] <hop> zalt: this is used as a desktop?
1276 [12:59:43] <zalt> yes.
1277 [13:00:06] <hop> is there a specific reason you are worried
about /var? because it shouldn't be relevant on a desktop
1278 [13:00:20] <hop> size-wise, at least
1279 [13:00:30] <humpled> my /var is bind mounted
1280 [13:00:36] <Bushmills> hop, active queues vs. hold queue
1281 [13:01:05] <Bushmills> ! means, delivery attempts have
stopped
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1283 [13:01:22] <zalt> hop, well, i do have a couple of databases
1284 [13:01:24] <hop> Bushmills: thanks! where can i find such
info? it isn't in postqueue(1)
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1287 [13:01:49] <Bushmills> Should be in the docs
1288 [13:02:04] <Bushmills> Can't say where exactly
1289 [13:02:12] <hop> Bushmills: like, where can i find the
titanic? should be in the ocean! ;)
1290 [13:02:14] <zalt> but you're right, other than that,
it's not huge enough to consider it.
1291 [13:02:38] <hop> zalt: performance of those dbs will be
better with enough ram anyway
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1295 [13:03:52] <hop> i don't know… /home on a
spindle might hurt, if there's a juicy ssd laying around right
there
1296 [13:04:44] <hop> i personally would consider adding a data
partition for files that aren't io critical instead of
splitting off all of /home
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1299 [13:05:21] <hop> means you can also boot and work, even while
the huge data partition is fsck'ing
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1302 [13:06:50] <hop> Bushmills: wtf. it is right there in the man
page o.O
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1304 [13:07:04] <hop> i have no idea how i missed that
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1310 [13:14:24] <hop> .oO(man, working with the postfix queue is
barbaric)
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1339 [13:43:52] <Bushmills> hop, i suppose most what you're
doing is deleting dead messages, going through postsuper with them.
a script really helps there
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1364 [14:11:33] <moviuro> Hi all, I'm seeding some Linux
& BSD ISOs, including Debian: which versions should I keep
seeding? Is 9.x.x still supported, now that 10.0.0 is out?
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1370 [14:15:28] <dvs> moviuro, 9.0 will be fully supported until
next July.
1371 [14:15:47] <moviuro> okay, so I'll keep seeding those
9.9 ISOs, thanks
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1394 [14:36:36] <vilhelm1> hi :)
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1410 [14:48:07] <filpAM> So.. I upgraded to debian 10 buster from
debian 9.8 stretch midnight by 'apt full-upgrade',
everything went smooth and succesfully. But I find something odd:
when I booted first time with debian 10 buster, systemd suddenly
started logging
1411 [14:48:25] <filpAM> I find that odd because systemd was
silent before
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1414 [14:48:35] <filpAM> I think something didn't go
correctly
1415 [14:49:02] <hop> Bushmills: "a script" is exactly
what i was referring to :)
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1424 [14:52:01] <dvs> !release notes
1425 [14:52:02] <dpkg> The release notes for Debian 10
"Buster" are at
replaced-url
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1466 [15:24:01] <[twisti]> i added a user, but no group with the
same name was created. is that normal for debian ?
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1468 [15:24:27] <alkisg> How did you add the user, with which
command or program?
1469 [15:24:31] <greycat> If you used adduser, I would say that is
an atypical result. If you used useradd, all bets are off, because
that's a low-level tool and you are expected to manage it
yourself.
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1471 [15:24:56] <hop> it's configurable, see adduser(8)
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1474 [15:25:57] <[twisti]> i added it through ansible, which
created a group on all other machines, but not the debian machine. i
wasnt sure if maybe not doing it was the thing to do on debian
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1476 [15:27:11] <alkisg> The default on debian is for users to
have primary groups with the same name
1477 [15:28:12] <[twisti]> thank you
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1485 [15:36:28] <mad_monk> hello all - i am trying to troubleshoot
a dhcp revnew issue with Debian 10 (buster)
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1487 [15:36:48] <mad_monk> when the first time it is booting - it
is picking up an IP address from the VMWare DHCP Server
1488 [15:37:00] <mad_monk> after that, it is not renewing the IP
automatically
1489 [15:37:38] <mad_monk> I run tcpdump to check the traffic /
packets - I do not see a DHCP request package generated by Debian 10
1490 [15:37:48] <mad_monk> Please advice how to troubleshoot this
1491 [15:38:01] <mad_monk> Debian 9 is working without any error
on the same VMware Workstation
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1532 [16:12:12] <karlpinc> mad_monk: dhclient is running?
1533 [16:12:23] <mad_monk> yes,
1534 [16:12:27] <karlpinc> mad_monk: What do the logs say?
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1536 [16:12:54] <mad_monk> i found a small workaround - it's
working now
1537 [16:13:01] <mad_monk> Edited this file -
/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
1538 [16:13:10] <mad_monk> Uncomment the line
1539 [16:13:11] <mad_monk> send dhcp-lease-time xxxxxxxx;
1540 [16:13:17] <mad_monk> now it's working
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1542 [16:13:57] <mad_monk> The other thing that was working for me
was to add the line "auto ens33" to
"/etc/network/interfaces" (which i dont know is not
related - but it was working)
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1545 [16:15:31] <ws2k3> i just did a fresh install of debian 10.
is it correct useradd and adduser that i receive a command not
found?
1546 [16:15:42] <ws2k3> i check with apt-get install adduser but
it is installed....
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1548 [16:16:05] <greycat> !buster su
1549 [16:16:05] <dpkg> The <su> command changed in buster:
it no longer overrides the PATH variable. See
replaced-url
1550 [16:16:25] <karlpinc> ws2k3: Those commands are normally only
available to root, when $PATH is correctly set. See above.
1551 [16:16:35] <filpAM> Xterm isn't showing unicode
characters anymore after debian 10 upgrade, for example an
accentuated a is showing '$'\303\201'
1552 [16:16:52] <greycat> filpAM: sounds like your locale
isn't set correctly in xterm's parent process.
1553 [16:17:10] <filpAM> It probably overrode the previous setting
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1555 [16:17:26] <greycat> try "locale", and "locale
-a" to see the choices, "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to
get more choices, etc.
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1557 [16:17:33] <greycat> !locales
1558 [16:17:33] <dpkg> Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to
get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and
also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment
variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the
output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised
errors>. See also <mac locales>.
replaced-url
1559 [16:18:01] <wwilliam> Hello is there a way to tell -f a log
but exclude output that conatins certain pattern?
1560 [16:18:03] <ws2k3> well this su and su - is going to a much
made pitfall :P
1561 [16:18:13] <wwilliam> tail -f *
1562 [16:18:16] <filpAM> greycat: Ah yes, in the mid of debian 10
upgraded, xterm prompted asking for the encoding, I chose
'UTF8' 'cause that is what everyone uses. Btw, my
keyboard layout is brazilian
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1564 [16:18:35] <greycat> wwilliam: tail -F logfile | grep -vF
'certain pattern'
1565 [16:18:43] <greycat> wwilliam: see also Bash FAQ #9
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1567 [16:18:49] <wwilliam> Thank you greycat
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1569 [16:19:25] <filpAM> greycat: I can't even type latin
characters anymore..
1570 [16:20:05] <greycat> filpAM: You're in the *middle* of
an upgrade right now? Just finish the upgrade, and stop playing
around with emojies.
1571 [16:20:28] <filpAM> I finished yesterday the upgrade...
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1573 [16:20:33] <filpAM> It already upgraded
1574 [16:20:49] <greycat> What does "locale" give you?
1575 [16:21:53] <filpAM> It is at #flood
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1580 [16:23:08] <greycat> use
replaced-url
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1582 [16:24:33] <filpAM>
replaced-url
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1584 [16:25:20] <greycat> filpAM: those three error messages look
important. Are you trying to use a locale that hasn't been
generated? Have you tried dpkg-reconfigure locales yet?
1585 [16:25:48] <filpAM> no. I will try now
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1596 [16:30:37] <diogenes_> Hello guys, how to see all the
dependencies of a package using apt?
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1602 [16:32:15] <karlpinc> diogenes_: I always use "aptitude
show somepackage". You might have to break down and read the
apt man page if you want to use apt.
1603 [16:32:33] <Bushmills> why not use the "depends"
subcommand?
1604 [16:32:39] <diogenes_> karlpinc, yes, thanks, i found apt has
show too.
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1616 [16:41:45] <karlpinc> Bushmills: Because I can't find
documentation on it anywhere?
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1619 [16:42:35] <greycat> SYNOPSIS apt-cache [-agipns]
[-o=config_string] [-c=config_file] { ... | depends pkg
[{=pkg_version_number | /target_release}]... | ...
1620 [16:42:47] <greycat> Looks like documentation to me.
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1623 [16:43:00] <greycat> depends shows a listing of each
dependency a package has and all
1624 [16:43:00] <greycat> the possible other packages that can
fulfill that dependency.
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1628 [16:43:33] <greycat> It's not *good* documentation, but
hey.
1629 [16:43:48] <tarzeau> otherwise there's always the source
code
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1631 [16:44:40] <diogenes_> btw, a theoretical question, if i
install package A that depends on package B, then i install package
C that also depends on package B, now i remove package C, will it
remove dependency B?
1632 [16:44:41] <Bushmills> apt has it too, but indeed, just as
"clean", not described
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1635 [16:45:16] <greycat> diogenes_: no, because A still depends
on B
1636 [16:45:18] <OerHeks> diogenes_, theoretical: no
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1638 [16:45:59] <diogenes_> ok thanks because i though after
removing, it will ask for apt autoremove and will remove the C
dependency.
1639 [16:45:59] <Bushmills> there's also apt-rdepends as
seperate package - contrary to what name might suggest, it's
not showing reverse dependencies. but recursive dependencies
1640 [16:46:19] <greycat> well *that's* confusing
1641 [16:46:33] <greycat> since "rdepends" does indeed
mean "reverse depends" in all the other tools
1642 [16:46:39] <Bushmills> indeed it is
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1645 [16:48:46] <Bushmills> but in fact, apt-rdepends *can* show
reverse deps too, with the appropriate command line option :)
1646 [16:49:41] <filpAM> greycat: Ok, after playing with
'dpkg-reconfigure locale', it seems like everything is
back to normal and the keyboard layout is working correctly. thx
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1648 [16:50:43] <filpAM> locale doesn't shows errors
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1691 [17:13:52] <kreyren> dpkg: ping
1692 [17:13:52] <dpkg> pong
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1698 [17:15:39] <Hubbah> Hi all, hope someone can help me. Got an
old jessie machine that i'm trying to upgrade to buster, but i
get the error "the following signatures can't be verified
because the public key is not available" regarding
ftp.debian.org
1699 [17:15:53] <greycat> You're going to stretch first, and
then to buster, right?
1700 [17:16:04] <Hubbah> sure
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1702 [17:16:16] <Hubbah> i've got to solve this issue first
tho.
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1704 [17:16:26] <greycat> so your issue is with *jessie* ?
1705 [17:16:38] <greycat> !jessie sources.list
1706 [17:16:38] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
8 "Jessie" has two lines: "deb
replaced-url
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1708 [17:17:35] <mrmaks> Hi all. If I click on
"Computer" icon on MATE, I can see disk dirve and
filesystem. disk drive not work and not mount. How i can remove disk
drive from caja "Computer"?
1709 [17:17:57] <Hubbah> thanks greycat <3
1710 [17:18:57] <mtn> mrmaks: that disk drive is where debian is
installed and is already mounted, so you can not mount it again
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1719 [17:24:31] <snackattack> I sometimes see debian users brag
about their years-long uptime as a point of pride, but
unattended-upgrades is telling me I need to reboot to complete a
security upgrade. So is it a bad security practice to be having a
years-long uptime?
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1725 [17:25:46] <greycat> yes, it is
1726 [17:26:04] <greycat> Kernel updates require a reboot to take
effect.
1727 [17:26:17] <greycat> Sometimes udev does as well, although
that's less important on server-type boxes.
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1729 [17:26:35] <greycat> err, not udev. dbus. that's what I
meant.
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1740 [17:29:39] <snackattack> greycat: I see, thanks for
confirming that for me
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1745 [17:30:22] <mrmaks> mtn: thanks, but how I can hide this
drive from caja?
1746 [17:30:45] <mtn> mrmaks: don't think you can. what
purpose would that serve?
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1793 [17:49:25] <joze>
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1805 [17:52:55] <joze>
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1810 [17:56:01] <OerHeks> joze, how are youtubes related to debian
support?
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1820 [18:01:23] <f8e3_> how to restart deb9 sound driver? maybe
alsa restart on thinkpad?
1821 [18:01:42] <jim> wonder if jose is --> jozef (~jose@replaced-ip ) has joined #debian
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1825 [18:02:35] <f8e3_> pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa
force-reload aye got it
1826 [18:02:41] <greycat> jim: different local username and
different hostmask
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1828 [18:03:42] <jim> greycat, thought it was worth a shot
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1832 [18:04:27] <meingbg> What's best practice for making a
man page nowadays? Is it `troff -mdoc` format?
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1834 [18:06:38] <Posterdati> hi
1835 [18:06:57] <Posterdati> please help, is there any oolite like
game in buster???
1836 [18:07:00] <Posterdati> thanks
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1841 [18:10:00] <hop> Posterdati: um… oolite?
1842 [18:10:08] <pasiz> Posterdati: oolite features linux version,
why not run that
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1844 [18:10:32] <hop> ah, that's from oldstable
1845 [18:10:33] <Posterdati> it was on stretch, no more in buster
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1847 [18:10:48] <greycat> ,info oolite --release stretch
1848 [18:10:50] <judd> Package oolite (games, optional) in
stretch/amd64: space sim game, inspired by Elite. Version: 1.84-1;
Size: 1528.5k; Installed: 6850k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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1852 [18:12:15] <pasiz> Posterdati: you could download it from
oolite website, or install from stretch or sid repo
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1854 [18:13:28] <greycat> judd says it's not in sid either
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1856 [18:13:45] <greycat>
replaced-url
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1860 [18:14:07] <pasiz> greycat: ow, it's on debports in sid
1861 [18:14:24] <greycat> and debports is ... some third-party
site?
1862 [18:14:35] <greycat> !debports
1863 [18:14:35] <dpkg> it has been said that debports is a perl
script to create a BSD-like ports structure on debian systems; get
it at <replaced-url
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1865 [18:15:03] <oskar-> Hello, where can I find Debian kernel
configurations of current and historic versions? It seems as if
replaced-url
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1867 [18:15:15] <pasiz> greycat:
replaced-url
1868 [18:15:28] <greycat> so dpkg's factoid about debports is
out of date?
1869 [18:15:50] <greycat> Hmm, yes. The URL says "404
forever" in gigantic text.
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1872 [18:16:51] <greycat> dpkg, debports =~ s|replaced-url
1873 [18:16:51] <dpkg> You are person #1 to send an unparseable
request, greycat
1874 [18:16:51] <pasiz> greycat: opens fine in my firehoax
1875 [18:17:06] <greycat> dpkg, debports =~ s#replaced-url
1876 [18:17:06] <dpkg> OK, greycat
1877 [18:17:46] <greycat> pasiz:
replaced-url
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1880 [18:18:12] <pasiz> greycat: oh, i thought you mean
ports.debian.org
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1882 [18:19:01] <greycat> This web site ... does not look like it
has anything to do with games that have been removed from sid.
1883 [18:19:14] <greycat> "The goal of this machine is to
provide an infrastructure for unofficial architectures until they
are integrated in the main Debian archive."
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1888 [18:20:00] <greycat> pasiz: are you quite certain that you
have the right URL?
1889 [18:20:06] <Abdullah> greycat: These ports are like these
ports I wrote,
replaced-url
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1897 [18:22:03] <pasiz> dunno, i have no point to argue for game
that i don't need...
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1899 [18:22:17] <greycat> dpkg, no, debports is
<reply>debports was a perl script to create a BSD-like ports
structure on Debian systems, formerly at <replaced-url
1900 [18:22:18] <dpkg> greycat: okay
1901 [18:22:32] <greycat> whatever you pointed me at, is not this.
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1903 [18:23:28] <Abdullah> okay
1904 [18:23:51] <Posterdati> pasiz: I know I can download it, but
I prefer it to be in the buster repository
1905 [18:24:04] <greycat> well, it's not.
1906 [18:25:05] <Posterdati> ok
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1913 [18:27:56] <jhutchins_wk>
replaced-url
1914 [18:28:17] <greycat> Yes, I figured that out after a minute
or so. Clearly not related to whatever this "debports"
thing was.
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1917 [18:29:40] <jhutchins_wk> I believe it was an alternative
package management system.
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1919 [18:29:58] <bittin> Will miss Debian Day Stockholm tommorow,
due to being sick, but might join on Saturday if i feel better then
kinda boring as i helped planning since end of July :(
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1954 [18:47:59] <ilikeyou> morning. having issue with debian-live
iso creation. I have all the required packages, but when i "lb
config" in the directory, i get error: ln: failed to create
symbolic link
'config/hooks/normal/0020-create-mtab-symlink.hook.chroot':
Function not implemented. this is causing chroot issues of course if
i ignore and continue
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1958 [18:49:11] <Bushmills> sounds like a filesystem which
doesn't support symlinks, like fat
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1967 [18:58:24] <npgm> I'm noticing that a particular library
file is no longer available to ld by default -
"libgfortran-dev-8". I can find the file in
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/libgfortran.so, but this path
doesn't seem to be availble to ld by default. If I link this
file to /usr/lib I can get things to work. This is apart of a build
that I run on a daily basis off the debian:sid dockerfile.
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1969 [18:59:10] <npgm> it had been working up until this morning.
How can i identify the cause of this change? is there a better
resolution than just linking the file manually ?
1970 [18:59:26] <npgm> the package in question:
replaced-url
1971 [19:00:54] <ilikeyou> Bushmills: how could that be? i dont
have filesystem for the iso. its an empty folder. host symlink is
allowed.
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1983 [19:06:27] <jhutchins_wk> ilikeyou: What filesystem are you
building this on?
1984 [19:07:15] <jhutchins_wk> npgm: sid-specific questions should
be addressed in #debian-next on oftc.net
1985 [19:07:36] <jhutchins_wk> npgm: This sounds like the sort of
transient error common to sid.
1986 [19:07:57] <npgm> interesting. thanks.
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1991 [19:11:56] <ilikeyou> jhutchins_wk: im new to iso building,
so maybe im missing something. are you asking what filesystem my
host is? as far as super basic tutorial states in deb-live docs, it
is: install required packages, create and move into directory, and
"lb config" for the base.
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1994 [19:13:24] <jhutchins_wk> ilikeyou: I'm asking what the
system you're building the iso on is running, what filesystem
it uses.
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2001 [19:17:39] <jim> hi. is there a mirror that tries to pick the
closest mirror?
2002 [19:17:48] <SerajewelKS> jim: deb.debian.org
2003 [19:17:51] <greycat> !deb.debian.org
2004 [19:17:51] <dpkg> deb.debian.org is a mirror network that is
backed by international content delivery networks and for most
users, this is the most reliable <mirror> to use in the
<sources.list>. From Debian 9 "Stretch" onwards, apt
queries SRV records in DNS which then send it off to a CDN. Older
apt will get an HTTP redirect from deb.debian.org to the same CDNs.
See
replaced-url
2005 [19:18:04] <jim> SerajewelKS. hi :) and thanks
2006 [19:18:22] <jim> greycat, hi, thanks :)
2007 [19:18:48] <SerajewelKS> what is the mechanism by which the
EC2 AMIs pick names for network interfaces? the interface is named
eth0 but nothing appears to be configured to give it this name.
net.ifnames is 0, there's nothing in rules.d or
/etc/systemd/network, and udevadm does not list eth0 when asked the
preferred names of the interface
2008 [19:19:02] <SerajewelKS> so something is renaming it to eth0
but i can't determine where that happens
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2010 [19:19:25] <ilikeyou> jhutchins_wk: im on ext4
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2014 [19:21:07] <ilikeyou>
replaced-url
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2020 [19:23:19] <jim> ok, I got a problem... somehow, I start an
apt update, and it starts waiting for headers, which never come,
apparantly on any mirror... I know this is vague, but I'm not
sure what to say...
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2022 [19:23:40] <jim> I've tried reloading a web page, that
seems to work
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2024 [19:24:08] <greycat> jim: could be a firewall
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2026 [19:24:26] <greycat> are you able to reach one of the mirror
sites using plain http: (not https:) ?
2027 [19:24:39] <jhutchins_wk> ilikeyou: Which release is the live
image you're building?
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2033 [19:26:08] <ilikeyou> jhutchins_wk: 10
2034 [19:26:13] <jim> well I tried
replaced-url
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2036 [19:27:01] <jim> I'll try http, one sec
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2040 [19:29:31] <jim> ok, tried http, didn't work, commented
out apt-cacher address, that worked
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2042 [19:30:16] <greycat> I'm ... confused. It sounds like
you're editing sources.list. I meant "go to
replaced-url
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2046 [19:30:36] <greycat> See if a web browser can get there. If
it can't, then maybe a firewall is blocking non-encrypted HTTP
or something.
2047 [19:31:05] <greycat> or a messed-up "transparent"
proxy, etc.
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2049 [19:32:10] <jim> greycat, oh, ok, I think that would work,
trying
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2058 [19:35:47] <jim> putting
replaced-url
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2060 [19:36:00] <greycat> ...
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2062 [19:36:08] <greycat> I don't know whether that counts as
a success or a failure.
2063 [19:36:15] <greycat> It did not do that *here*.
2064 [19:36:26] <jim> doesn't redirect?
2065 [19:36:29] <greycat> Nope.
2066 [19:36:30] <jim> doesn't what?
2067 [19:36:47] <jim> so the mirror you got doesn't redirect
2068 [19:36:53] <greycat> In google-chrome, it says "Not
secure | deb.debian.org" in the URL bar.
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2070 [19:37:20] <jim> ok
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2072 [19:37:41] <greycat> In lynx, going to
replaced-url
2073 [19:37:46] <SerajewelKS> jim: no that's not true. the
same thing happens to me.
2074 [19:38:01] <greycat> what's not true, what happens to
you?
2075 [19:38:02] <SerajewelKS> jim: we aren't even redirected
to a mirror at all
2076 [19:38:14] <SerajewelKS> greycat: i am not redirected away
from deb.debian.org
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2080 [19:39:17] <EdePopede> SerajewelKS: not a http redirect. host
if fixed, only a different machine from somewhere. dns stuff.
2081 [19:39:40] <jim> ok I see what you're saying... let me
be more specific
2082 [19:39:57] <greycat> jim: are you able to get to ANY plain
http site without it going to https?
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2085 [19:40:25] <SerajewelKS> EdePopede: deb.debian.org does
redirect. but not from /
2086 [19:40:34] <greycat> jim: if you can't, then you may
have to use https in your sources.list, which means you need to be
on buster, or to install the optional apt https package on older
releases.
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2088 [19:41:13] <SerajewelKS> EdePopede: or at least my
understanding was that it used http redirects
2089 [19:41:40] <jim> when I go to
replaced-url
2090 [19:41:52] <greycat> Try some other plain http site.
2091 [19:42:46] <Peyam> hi
2092 [19:42:52] <Peyam> Today I got sad
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2096 [19:43:45] <Peyam> I told one of the persons that I work very
closely that I really want to be like him and someday take a role as
system owner and I said "Can you teach me?" and he
laughing said "NOO.."
2097 [19:43:53] <Peyam> I got upset
2098 [19:44:18] <Peyam> That was someone that I really look up to
and hearing it from him made me really sad
2099 [19:44:44] <jim> see if
replaced-url
2100 [19:45:21] <EdePopede> SerajewelKS: ah, i tested only / with
curl and firefox
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2103 [19:47:46] <jim> Peyam, looks like you'll have to learn
what you can from him, looks like he's not going to tutor you,
maybe you have to take over the job of teaching yourself, and
organizing that
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2105 [19:48:27] <greycat> Maybe he's too busy, maybe he
thinks you're trying to take his job, maybe he thinks
you're not ready to learn, could be any number of things.
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2107 [19:48:44] <jim> Peyam, realize that you asked him for a few
semesters worth of material and commitment
2108 [19:48:53] <Peyam> Yes but I really wanted him to say yes ,
or to show that he cares about me as much as I do for him. Because I
really see him as my role model and I am very proud of working so
closely to him
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2111 [19:49:16] <greycat> Then you need to tell *him*, not us.
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2115 [19:49:45] <Peyam> greycat, I respect him to much to even
dare to confront him. I said to some of my collegue that I wish he
was my father
2116 [19:49:53] <jim> Peyam, your relationship to him != his
relationship to you
2117 [19:50:03] <Peyam> jim, yeah I think so
2118 [19:50:12] <pete4242> Does anyone know if there are plans to
adopt ipfs for package distribution?
2119 [19:50:27] <Peyam> I got very sad of hearing it from him.
2120 [19:50:31] <jim> it's not personal, what you asked is a
huge commitment
2121 [19:50:43] <Peyam> He said it on lunch and I couldn't
just focus the rest of the day
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2123 [19:51:00] <Peyam> yeah I know. jim :( I shouldn't have
said it at all
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2126 [19:51:25] <Peyam> It just would mean alot if he could like
"announce" me as his student
2127 [19:51:51] <greycat> This belongs somewhere other than
#debian.
2128 [19:52:01] <jim> well maybe... but maybe you can fix it by
asking him whether you can ask him occasional questions
2129 [19:52:11] <Peyam> hmm
2130 [19:52:21] <Peyam> greycat, sorry. I'm just too sad.
sorry you are right.
2131 [19:52:25] <jim> that's FAR less of a commitment
2132 [19:52:35] <ilikeyou> gota run.. ill dig more into the docs
later. Thanks
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2147 [19:58:55] <ctcx> Does Debian 10 already has signed shim?
replaced-url
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2149 [19:59:55] <greycat> Debian 10 is supposed to support Secure
Boot. Whatever that means.
2150 [20:00:23] <greycat>
replaced-url
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2162 [20:10:54] <jim> is security.debian.org an http or https?
2163 [20:11:20] <greycat> in *my* sources.list it's http
2164 [20:11:38] <greycat> but if I got to it in a browser, the
browser gets redirected to https
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2166 [20:11:48] <jim> greycat, ok
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2169 [20:12:27] <greycat> have you managed to make a plain http
connection to anywhere yet?
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2172 [20:13:21] <ctcx> I've always seen in sources.list that
protocol is always plain http, despite https being around for years
already.
2173 [20:13:38] <greycat> prior to buster, apt did not support
https out of the box
2174 [20:13:54] <greycat>
replaced-url
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2179 [20:15:31] <pete4242> So apt checks package integrity even
without https? That's good to know
2180 [20:15:49] <greycat> Yeah, signed package lists have been
around for a while now.
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2182 [20:16:19] <babilen>
replaced-url
2183 [20:16:35] <ctcx> ^ Aah, right
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2185 [20:16:43] <ctcx> Had forgotten about that
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2188 [20:17:35] <greycat> you can read any of the
/var/lib/apt/lists/*InRelease files to see the list and the
signature
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2190 [20:19:31] <jhutchins_wk> pete4242: The main reason for https
on the package servers is just compliance with the "https
everywhere" trend. It really doesn't provide any advantage
for file transfer sites.
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2192 [20:20:16] <jim> greycat, have I managed to browse to an http
site? howbout: lilypond.org
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2194 [20:20:40] <greycat> jim: if that's true, then I
don't know what's causing your specific issue.
2195 [20:21:02] <greycat> jim: all I can suggest is random crap
like "try ftp.us.debian.org instead" or "try https
instead"
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2197 [20:21:24] <pete4242> jhutchins_wk: What about end to end
encryption?
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2199 [20:21:35] <ctcx> greycat: I'm trying to install grub to
a USB stick for a multiboot USB. With all due partitions in the USB
and mounted, I did this "grub2-install --target x86_64-efi
--removable --boot-directory=/tmp/data_mnt/boot
--efi-directory=/temp/efi_mnt". This works, USB grub at least
boots, but only with secure boot disabled. How could I install
signed shim to the USB?
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2203 [20:22:22] <jim> it looks like it's two problems... when
I switch away from my usual mirror (and use deb.debian.org), and I
disable connecting to the apt-cacher-ng instance, updating and
installing packages works
2204 [20:22:25] <meingbg> jhutchins_wk: How about confidentiality?
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2206 [20:23:15] <greycat> meingbg:
replaced-url
2207 [20:23:54] <teclo-> greycat: indeed, an interesting read....
2208 [20:24:47] <jhutchins_wk> meingbg: Pretty silly concept. If
you're on a package repo server, chances are you're
downloading packages.
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2211 [20:25:33] <teclo-> yeah plus like they say, with or wtihtout
https, if the packages are compromised, they are compromised
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2214 [20:26:44] <ctcx> Or, even possible to install signed shim to
external USB?
2215 [20:27:07] <meingbg> jhutchins_wk: It would protect
information about which packages are downloaded. A bit far-fetched
that it'd be crucial, I admit.
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2221 [20:30:27] <jhutchins_wk> I suppose if a malefactor knew
you'd downloaded a package with a known vulnerability they
could exploit it, but that's pretty passive, there are better
ways to hack a system.
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2226 [20:35:02] <meingbg> jhutchins_wk: Also, to correct myself,
they might be able to guess packages from sizes alone.
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2228 [20:35:29] <greycat> ohnoes, they know I use vim!!1
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2240 [20:39:04] <emx> Is it possible to install VLC without GUI?
The purpose is to stream audio and video from a webcam.
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2246 [20:41:51] <cryptopsy> how do i get sshfs not to lag my
system when something is mounted with sshfs and copy files to that
folder?
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2255 [20:46:47] <omarek> Hi what software do you suggest for
fixing a damaged GPT (partition table)? gdisk says it's
damaged.
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2258 [20:47:34] <omarek> Someone else suggested using
'testidisk'. So now I'm in the process of running a
deeper search in testdisk.
2259 [20:47:55] <omarek> testdisk displays a warning about
'hidden sectors' at the screen with 'analyse'
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2269 [20:51:04] <rant> omarek: gpart can possibly fix it
2270 [20:51:11] <rant> ,i gpart
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2272 [20:51:13] <judd> Package gpart (admin, optional) in
buster/amd64: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions.
Version: 1:0.3-6; Size: 38.2k; Installed: 80k; Homepage:
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2273 [20:52:26] <cryptopsy> omarek: use grub to rewrite ur
partition table as you desire
2274 [20:52:40] <ctcx> greycat: was this bug
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2275 [20:52:42] <judd> Bug
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2276 [20:53:10] <greycat> how would *I* know? what does the bug
report say?
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2278 [20:54:26] <ponyofdeath> hi, anyone here use fwupd to update
lenovo thinkpad bios? I just get a black screen after I reboot.
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2283 [20:58:25] <ctcx> Ignored. Devs don't care (or like)
support for this loop.ko for Debian. Last message was in May 2018
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2286 [20:58:50] <abrock> ponyofdeath: did you try an external
monitor?
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2291 [21:00:14] <ctcx> Though support present *only* in the Debian
live CD.
2292 [21:00:18] <ponyofdeath> abrock: no did not even think about
this how could that help?
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2321 [21:28:59] <HelloShitty> Hello peeps
2322 [21:29:05] <HelloShitty> please help me with something here
2323 [21:29:26] <HelloShitty> I have a server which I want to
connect to it through ssh
2324 [21:29:43] <HelloShitty> I have created a pair of pub and
priv ECDSA keys
2325 [21:30:02] <HelloShitty> copied the pub key into the
server's .ssh/authourized_keys file
2326 [21:30:10] <greycat> you misspelled authorized
2327 [21:30:21] <HelloShitty> set permissions 700 for .ssh and 600
for authourized_keys
2328 [21:30:28] <HelloShitty> in my server
2329 [21:30:29] <greycat> spelling matters here.
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2331 [21:30:38] <HelloShitty> ups, let me check that
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2335 [21:32:29] <HelloShitty> ok, fixed that but still the same
problem
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2337 [21:32:53] <HelloShitty> I have created a file named config
inside my local machine folder ~/.ssh
2338 [21:32:57] <greycat> look for errors in the log file, most
likely /var/log/auth.log
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2340 [21:33:17] <HelloShitty> terminal says
2341 [21:33:20] <HelloShitty> Permission denied (publickey).
2342 [21:33:22] <greycat> if there are not enough details there,
run a second instance of sshd in debug mode, on a different port,
and connect to that one
2343 [21:33:45] <greycat> the client is not told why a key is
rejected, because that would be leaking information to an untrusted
person
2344 [21:33:48] <jhutchins_wk> cryptopsy: Use scp instead. sshfs
has a lot of layers to it.
2345 [21:33:59] <greycat> you must get that info from the server
end
2346 [21:34:00] <HelloShitty> I have created a config file under
~/.ssh
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2348 [21:34:27] <HelloShitty> I set PasswordAuthentication no
2349 [21:34:31] <HelloShitty> in server
2350 [21:34:43] <greycat> why the hell did you do that before you
were able to login with a key!?
2351 [21:34:43] <HelloShitty> because I want to be able to login
only by using the key
2352 [21:34:50] <HelloShitty> I don't want to have to type
the password
2353 [21:35:01] <greycat> how are you going to get in RIGHT NOW?
2354 [21:35:03] <jhutchins_wk> HelloShitty: That generally works.
2355 [21:35:14] <HelloShitty> I have connection open
2356 [21:35:17] <HelloShitty> This is just a VM
2357 [21:35:22] <HelloShitty> where I installed openssh
2358 [21:35:31] <greycat> what happens if this connection ... oh,
your fallback plan is to scrap the VM and reconstruct it?
2359 [21:35:41] <jhutchins_wk> HelloShitty: It's a little
more reliable to use ssh-copy-id to set it up.
2360 [21:35:47] <greycat> not really.
2361 [21:36:03] <greycat> it's supposed to save labor, but if
it doesn't work, you still have to debug it
2362 [21:36:05] <HelloShitty> I have the VM open, so I can edit
sshd_config file any time
2363 [21:36:09] <HelloShitty> and reload the config
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2365 [21:36:25] <jhutchins_wk> HelloShitty: Yeah, get the key
working _first_.
2366 [21:36:36] <HelloShitty> but on the client side, don't I
need to do anything to say I have a pub key on the server?
2367 [21:36:50] <greycat> Generally, no.
2368 [21:37:06] <HelloShitty> ok, so I'm going to use
ssh-copy-id
2369 [21:37:17] <greycat> *sigh* fine... waste more time.
2370 [21:37:29] <HelloShitty> I just copied the .pub file over
with scp
2371 [21:37:35] <HelloShitty> and then just did on the server
2372 [21:37:47] <HelloShitty> cat file.pub >
.ssh/authorized_kyes
2373 [21:37:49] <greycat> my god, stop repeating yourself and
wasting time
2374 [21:37:54] <greycat> go READ the LOG
2375 [21:38:02] <humpled> and use >>
2376 [21:38:06] <greycat> and you misspelled KEYS this time.
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2378 [21:38:12] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: copy-id will set up the
directory and file correctly.
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2380 [21:38:37] <greycat> jhutchins_wk: ... given that this person
can't manage to spell the file name correctly, you might
actually have a point.
2381 [21:38:48] <greycat> It's not a useful thing for a
competent person, but for this person...
2382 [21:38:55] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: Also saves on typos and
spurious characters if you cut-and-paste the key (I used to just
transfer it as a file and cat it to the keys file.
2383 [21:39:13] <HelloShitty> what would be the log name?
2384 [21:39:21] <HelloShitty> yeah, but the file names are correct
2385 [21:39:24] <greycat> you could scroll up and read the things
I said
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2387 [21:39:36] <HelloShitty> I'm trying to find the log file
greycat
2388 [21:39:42] <greycat> I gave the name.
2389 [21:39:52] <greycat> I gave the instructions for what to do
if that doesn't have enough info.
2390 [21:41:22] <HelloShitty> last line says:
2391 [21:41:56] <HelloShitty> (can't copy/paste, shit)
2392 [21:42:09] <Bushmills> tension rising ...
2393 [21:42:22] <ecadre> hi
2394 [21:42:40] * coruja fills his popcorn bowl
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2396 [21:43:46] <HelloShitty> Aug 15 20:40:41 ssh-server sudo:
pam_unix(sudo_session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
2397 [21:43:47] <ecadre> I've been trying Gnome in Buster,
and realised it's not using Wayland, even when I choose that
option.
2398 [21:44:03] <greycat> HelloShitty: ignore the sudo lines, and
only look at the sshd lines.
2399 [21:44:49] <adeeln> i want to downgrade my kernel on debian
10, to 3.16 (debian 8's stock kernel)....are there any basic
guidelines on how to do that?
2400 [21:45:01] <adeeln> (i'm an experienced linux admin,
just not overly familiar with debian)
2401 [21:45:15] <greycat> Just install the kernel you want, and
then select it from the GRUB boot menu, assuming you use GRUB.
2402 [21:45:25] <HelloShitty> I did cat auth.log | grep sshd
2403 [21:45:28] <HelloShitty> is this ok?
2404 [21:46:01] <diogenes_> HelloShitty? what nickname is that?
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2406 [21:46:12] <jhutchins_wk> HelloShitty: No. No cat.
2407 [21:46:27] <adeeln> HelloShitty: you can do it via just:
"grep sshd auth.log" no need for cat | grep
2408 [21:46:30] <greycat> it'll work. this isn't the
time for pedantry.
2409 [21:46:49] <HelloShitty> or tail -f auth.log
2410 [21:46:58] <ecadre> Thing is, Wayland is supposed to be the
default now, and it seems to be installed, but it always uses X11
2411 [21:47:01] <HelloShitty> and going to try to connect again
2412 [21:47:12] <ecadre> echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
2413 [21:47:15] <ecadre> x11
2414 [21:47:19] <jhutchins_wk> ecadre: Was this a clean install or
an upgrade?
2415 [21:47:32] <ecadre> An upgrade.
2416 [21:47:33] <HelloShitty> using ssh -p <port>
ssh-user@ssh.server.ip
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2418 [21:47:48] <ecadre> It's an old install, dating baxk at
leat to Jessie
2419 [21:47:53] <ecadre> ^ back
2420 [21:47:57] <ecadre> least
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2422 [21:50:05] <jhutchins_wk> ecadre: Upgrades will continue to
use X.
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2424 [21:50:13] <HelloShitty> sorry, brbr, daughter is crying like
crazy. need to check what's wrong
2425 [21:50:27] <ecadre> jhutchins_wk: how do I get it to change?
2426 [21:50:46] <greycat> that's news to me...
2427 [21:50:47] <jhutchins_wk> HelloShitty: greycat will probably
tell me it won't help, but I'd probably try ssh -vvv
2428 [21:50:57] <jhutchins_wk> !wayland
2429 [21:50:57] <dpkg> Wayland is a display server protocol and
implementation library, intended as a simpler replacement for the X
Window System. Ask me about <weston>.
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2432 [21:51:13] <jhutchins_wk> Hm, that doesn't look very
current.
2433 [21:51:30] <jhutchins_wk> ecadre: You might check the release
notes, I think they explain it.
2434 [21:51:40] <ecadre> jhutchins_wk: I know basically what
Wayland is.
2435 [21:51:52] <ecadre> Yep, I'll have a look at th release
notes.
2436 [21:52:01] <jhutchins_wk> ecadre: Yeah, there's a simple
way to switch, I just haven't used it so don't know it
off-hand.
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2442 [21:52:44] <greycat> This is my first time hearing that users
have to *do* something to get a Wayland session, if they login with
whatever passes for a standard GNOME install these days.
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2447 [21:53:21] <greycat> But if that's true, then the first
place to look would be in the display manager (where you log in).
2448 [21:53:38] <greycat> see if there's some widget there
that you can click on to check/change the session type
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2450 [21:53:56] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: Yeah, seems to me I heard
something about it being in the session selector.
2451 [21:54:05] <coruja>
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2454 [21:54:44] <ecadre> jhutchins_wk: it is an option in GDM etc.
Alongside an X11 selection
2455 [21:54:54] <osubuck_> so i've already installed debian
10, have it customized to how i want, but realized that i
didn't use drive encryption when i made the volume, is there a
way to implement that now in an easy way?
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2457 [21:55:10] <ecadre> Nothing in the release notes for Buster
or the upgrade release notes.
2458 [21:55:25] <jhutchins_wk> ecadre: I'll try to remember
that. We should probably update the bot.
2459 [21:56:11] <jhutchins_wk> osubuck_: Back up contents, create
encrypted FS, restore content?
2460 [21:56:40] <osubuck_> how doi create the encrypted FS
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2462 [21:56:57] <ecadre> Soooo, I choose what is suppposed to be
the Wayland option in the DM greeter thing, but it isn't. I
just get X11
2463 [21:57:43] <coruja> ecadre, grepped the usual logs for error
messages?
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2466 [21:59:55] <coruja> if this behaviour could be confirmed (and
no substantial changes had been made by the user), i would consider
this a bug
2467 [22:00:41] <greycat> I think we need more info at this point.
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2469 [22:00:53] <coruja> indeed
2470 [22:01:25] <coruja> iirc gdm has a log on its own?
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2473 [22:02:05] <ecadre> coruja: I suppose it has
2474 [22:03:26] <ecadre> hmmm, a whole gdm log directory, which is
.... completely empty
2475 [22:03:30] <ecadre> :-D
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2478 [22:03:37] <ecadre> ^ gdm3
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2480 [22:05:01] <coruja> journalctl would be a good starting point
anyway, so anything suspisious there?
2481 [22:05:12] <coruja> suspicious
2482 [22:05:39] <ecadre> Strangly, a gdm3 log directory that was
created on Feb 9 2019. Which is strange, as I haven't used a
display manager in years.
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2485 [22:06:16] <karlpinc> osubuck_: cryptsetup, then mkfs
2486 [22:06:23] <coruja> if in doubt, paste the whole log (or
grepped for key words)
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2488 [22:07:27] <coruja> ecadre, so how did you start your
session? (sorry if you wrote it and i missed/overread)
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2490 [22:08:38] <abrock> ponyofdeath: possibly your update damaged
the connection between display and cpu, but not between cpu and
external monitor. I had a laptop once which failed like that. First
the display went black but HDMI out was still working so I could
errrm, "update my backup"
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2494 [22:09:11] <ecadre> coruja: GDM3, LightDM, Slim
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2496 [22:09:18] <ecadre> ^ all gave the same result
2497 [22:10:13] <humpled> isn't sddm standard for gnome now?
2498 [22:10:18] <ecadre> coruja: I've been using Stumpwm for
the beat part of ten years, hence the comment about display
managers.
2499 [22:10:18] <greycat> no, gdm3
2500 [22:10:27] <greycat> sddm is for KDE
2501 [22:10:31] <ecadre> ^best part
2502 [22:10:32] <coruja> ecadre, i meant how do you usually start
your 'wayland' session? as you said not having used a dm
for years
2503 [22:10:32] <humpled> oh sorry
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2505 [22:12:02] <ecadre> coruja: I just installed the Gnome
desktop, and it installed everything needed, so I got a DM at that
point. This was a few days ago.
2506 [22:12:14] <coruja> ok
2507 [22:12:29] <coruja> so it should be gdm3 starting your
session
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2509 [22:13:14] <ecadre> coruja: Yes. And then I tried LightDM and
Slim (just guessing whilst trying to look stuff up).
2510 [22:14:13] <coruja> anyway, we need error messages to get
ahead here, so pls dig the logs and paste anything noteworthy
2511 [22:14:22] <coruja> !paste
2512 [22:14:23] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use for text:
replaced-url
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2517 [22:17:33] <ponyofdeath> abrock: tried with hdmi monitor
connected no difference :(
2518 [22:17:45] <ecadre> coruja: Just got to the possibly relevant
bits in journalctl
2519 [22:17:51] <ponyofdeath> abrock: dont think the efi update
even starts
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2521 [22:19:51] <HelloShitty> I'm back
2522 [22:20:27] <HelloShitty> greycat:
2523 [22:20:40] <HelloShitty> if I let PasswordLogin yes
2524 [22:20:51] <HelloShitty> I can connect to the ssh server
2525 [22:21:05] <HelloShitty> so, config is ok in the server side,
I guess
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2527 [22:21:29] <greycat> That tells you nothing about why your
attempted KEY auth was rejected. Connect, and read the logs.
2528 [22:21:33] <ecadre> coruja: It just goes into Xorg as if
it's the most normal thing in the world. Not mention of any
problems or the existence of Wayland. Incidentally, Wayland
isn't mentioned anywhere in /etc/gdm3
2529 [22:21:38] <HelloShitty> I mean PasswordAuthentication
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2532 [22:22:16] <HelloShitty> no, I'm going to change
PasswordAuthentication to no
2533 [22:22:22] <HelloShitty> and see what auth.log says
2534 [22:22:26] <greycat> ...
2535 [22:22:35] <HelloShitty> s/no/now
2536 [22:22:40] <greycat> at some point it's not worth saying
anything because everything has already been said, and ignored
2537 [22:22:53] <HelloShitty> So, what am I supposed to do?
2538 [22:23:02] <greycat> (1) connect via key auth, (2) read logs
2539 [22:23:04] <HelloShitty> What am I msiing from what you said?
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2541 [22:23:41] <HelloShitty> I'm not sure what you mean by
"key auth"
2542 [22:23:45] <HelloShitty> I can't connect
2543 [22:23:57] <HelloShitty> if I use PasswordAuthentication no
2544 [22:24:03] <greycat> STOP fucking around with the
sshd_config, just leave it at the DEFAULTS, and attempt a connection
which you would expect to use your keys
2545 [22:24:04] <HelloShitty> in server sshd_config
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2547 [22:24:08] <coruja> ecadre, so now someone with deeper
knowledge of gnome and gdm3 should step in
2548 [22:24:11] <kreyren> dpkg: ping
2549 [22:24:11] <dpkg> Yes, kreyren you are either online or you
are not...
replaced-url
2550 [22:24:33] <kreyren>
replaced-url
2551 [22:24:38] <HelloShitty> jeezz
2552 [22:24:45] <HelloShitty> you escalate really quickly man
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2554 [22:24:53] <HelloShitty> nervermind
2555 [22:24:58] <kreyren> HelloShitty, ikr O.o it's always
proprietary that causes issues
2556 [22:25:12] <ecadre> Found the bit where it says "Failed
to start Music Player Daemon." ... which has been a bit of a
nuisance. What would Gnome be mucking around with that for?
2557 [22:25:20] <kreyren> and i dunno how to parse overclock to
nouveau without reboot
2558 [22:25:24] <coruja> ecadre, as kind of experiment, you may
install weston (reference wayland client) and start it to see if
wayland runs at all
2559 [22:25:30] <kreyren> it's faster for required usecase
anyway..
2560 [22:25:49] <HelloShitty> what proprietary?
2561 [22:25:50] <ecadre> Thanks coruja, I'll keep tring :-)
2562 [22:25:56] <kreyren> HelloShitty, nvidia
2563 [22:26:30] <ecadre> coruja: Yes, I thought about trying that.
I don't know what the implications of trying it would be.
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2565 [22:26:52] <HelloShitty> kreyren: what?
2566 [22:26:57] <kreyren> HelloShitty, what
2567 [22:26:58] <HelloShitty> nvidia?
2568 [22:27:01] <kreyren> yep
2569 [22:27:07] <HelloShitty> don't understand
2570 [22:27:13] <coruja> ecadre, weston is like a low-class wm in
the x11 world
2571 [22:27:19] <HelloShitty> I'm messing with anything to do
with nviia
2572 [22:27:22] <kreyren> nwm fixed the issue by using nouveau
2573 [22:27:23] <HelloShitty> nvidia
2574 [22:27:43] * kreyren doesn't need vulkan, vulkan is for weak
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2577 [22:28:33] <ecadre> coruja: Yeah, I thought it looked like
that when I noticed it. I'll have another look. It might turn
up summoat or other.
2578 [22:28:43] <ecadre> ^summat
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2581 [22:29:34] <ecadre> I'm really not used to using the
mouse so much :-D
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2585 [22:32:46] <HelloShitty> greycat: I have already connected
both with and without key
2586 [22:33:03] <greycat> Then find the part of the logs that
occurred at the time your key failed to work.
2587 [22:33:17] <HelloShitty> but I used ssh -p xxxxx
user-ssh@ip.of.ssh.server -i id_ecdsa
2588 [22:33:43] <HelloShitty> meaning that I explicitly provided
my private ke
2589 [22:33:44] <greycat> Oh great, MORE things for you to screw
up.
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2592 [22:34:02] <HelloShitty> but it asked for the password
2593 [22:34:12] <ecadre> OK, this Weston thing is way too
involved.
2594 [22:34:19] <HelloShitty> What the hell are you saying man?
2595 [22:34:29] <HelloShitty> I on't understand shit of what
you're saying
2596 [22:34:34] <humpled> ooh
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2599 [22:34:44] * ecadre wonders why he's all that bothered about
this Wayland thing anyway :-D
2600 [22:34:49] <HelloShitty> How am I supposed to connect using
the key, without proviing the key?
2601 [22:34:52] <greycat> Now you suddenly revealed that instead
of letting ssh just use your keys by their default names, you are
attempting to use the -i option with a filename. And you history of
typing correct filenames is VERY poor.
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2604 [22:35:29] <HelloShitty> some of my keyboard keys are not ok
2605 [22:35:35] <HelloShitty> so many times they fail
2606 [22:35:50] <charking> Hello. I'm looking for a simple
program to monitor whether a few websites are up and email me if
they are not. Does anyone know of one?
2607 [22:35:55] <HelloShitty> so, how am I supposed to connect to
the server?
2608 [22:36:04] <greycat> ssh servername
2609 [22:36:19] <coruja> ecadre,
replaced-url
2610 [22:36:22] <greycat> give -p only if you must. give a
username only if you must.
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2612 [22:36:53] <greycat> If a private/public key pair EXISTS with
ANY of the default pathnames that ssh creates them with, ssh will
attempt to use them.
2613 [22:37:04] <greycat> If an agent is running, any keys stored
in the agent may be used.
2614 [22:37:07] <charking> Maybe I should just write a script and
check HTTP status from wget or something, and mail if not as
expected.
2615 [22:37:18] <HelloShitty> so I did but the connection was not
with any key
2616 [22:37:39] <HelloShitty> Accepted password for user-ssh from
192.168.122.1 port 54058 ssh2
2617 [22:37:46] <HelloShitty> that's what auth.log says
2618 [22:37:47] <ecadre> coruja: Yas, I read it. Interesting
stuff, but the only practical "extra" (for the end user)
thing it appears to do at the moment is to make the desktop effects
work.
2619 [22:37:50] <ecadre> ^ Yes
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2621 [22:37:52] <charking> I will just write a script. Thx
2622 [22:37:53] <greycat> OK, and before that? Anything about why
it rejected the key?
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2624 [22:38:32] <HelloShitty> I failed the password because of my
keyboard and it logged that failed attempt
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2627 [22:38:47] <greycat> BEFORE the password stuff. Nothing at
all?
2628 [22:38:49] <HelloShitty> Failed password for user-ssh from
192.168.122.1 port 54058 ssh2
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2630 [22:39:09] <HelloShitty> there are other connection and
disconnection logs
2631 [22:39:13] <HelloShitty> nothing else
2632 [22:39:19] * ecadre decides to try out the Weston thing.
2633 [22:39:25] <HelloShitty> the log produced by this last login
was that line alone
2634 [22:40:27] <greycat> HelloShitty: Well. Then we need more
info. Try running the client with -vv (I think two vees are
sufficient) just to make sure the client is sending the keys. If the
client is sending the keys, then you may need to run the server in
debug (-d) as I said long, long, long, long ago.
2635 [22:40:42] <HelloShitty> ok
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2639 [22:41:19] <HelloShitty> it is sending , but not the one I
created
2640 [22:41:21] <ecadre> coruja: It works << Weston this is.
2641 [22:41:28] <HelloShitty> because I didn't place it in
the default folder
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2643 [22:41:32] <greycat> ...
2644 [22:42:11] <HelloShitty> can I past the last lines of the
client debug in you pvt just for you to see?
2645 [22:42:27] <coruja> ecadre, then wait for someone to tell you
how to make gdm really start wayland
2646 [22:42:39] <greycat> Are your pathnames a *secret* or
something?
2647 [22:42:49] <ecadre> coruja: just started a few programmes in
it.
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2649 [22:43:15] <greycat> Hmm, -vvv might actually be needed here.
That turns on messages like "debug3: no such identity:
/home/wooledg/.ssh/id_dsa: No such file or directory" which are
not present in -vv.
2650 [22:43:16] <coruja> ecadre, as i'm also one of the no
dm/de guys (openbox in this case) ;)
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2653 [22:44:32] <HelloShitty> greycat: even without the private
key inside ~/.ssh?
2654 [22:44:39] <HelloShitty> Or should I send it there?
2655 [22:44:55] <jhutchins_wk> HelloShitty: I'd say that
it's pretty clear what the problem is.
2656 [22:45:05] <greycat> Your keys should be in ~/.ssh/ and that
is where ssh-keygen PUTS them unless you did something nonstandard,
and why the hell would you do something nonstandard?
2657 [22:45:16] <ecadre> coruja: It's quite likely that
I'll go scurrying back to Stumpwm as I usually do.
2658 [22:45:37] <jhutchins_wk> HelloShitty: Get it working with
the default configuration, back that up, THEN try customization.
Don't try $uperKustom before you even know how it's
supposed to work.
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2660 [22:46:11] <greycat> 16:45
<-HelloShitty[~narayan@bl15-210-186.dsl.telepac.pt] debug3: no
such identity: /home/narayan/.ssh/id_ecdsa: No such file or
directory
2661 [22:46:14] <greycat> Tada.
2662 [22:46:32] <jhutchins_wk> This isn't the first time
he's done this start-with-harebrained-custom-config trick.
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2664 [22:46:55] <cryptopsy> jhutchins_wk: how?
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2667 [22:47:20] <cryptopsy> jhutchins_wk: there's on rsync on
the remote end so i can't rsync through scp
2668 [22:47:20] <jhutchins_wk> cryptopsy: He's tried it with
other things besides this ssh project.
2669 [22:47:21] <greycat> 16:47 Ignoring MSGS from HelloShitty
2670 [22:47:32] <cryptopsy> jhutchins_wk: "he" ?
2671 [22:47:45] <jhutchins_wk> cryptopsy: Sorry, wrong
conversation.
2672 [22:47:49] <HelloShitty> thanks for revealing here my
stuff...
2673 [22:48:01] <HelloShitty> it coul be done in PVT, no?
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2676 [22:48:10] <HelloShitty> OMG...
2677 [22:48:12] *** Quits: progart (~kamee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
2678 [22:48:18] <greycat> 16:48 Ignoring ALL from HelloShitty
2679 [22:48:23] <greycat> Next!
2680 [22:48:47] <HelloShitty> whatever
2681 [22:48:54] <HelloShitty> thanks for your time
2682 [22:48:59] <jhutchins_wk> cryptopsy: I not clear what your
question was.
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2685 [22:49:10] <HelloShitty> I'll be back later when
you're not around, I hope
2686 [22:49:29] <cryptopsy> HelloShitty: hopefully deceased
2687 [22:50:03] <jhutchins_wk> HelloShitty: Seriously, get the
defaults working first.
2688 [22:50:06] <HelloShitty> there are more channels to get
proper help
2689 [22:50:13] <HelloShitty> The defaults always worked man
2690 [22:50:14] <cryptopsy> jhutchins_wk: i am replying to your
last reply
2691 [22:50:25] <HelloShitty> and the key also qorks but it asks
for the password
2692 [22:50:34] <cryptopsy> jhutchins_wk: you said to use scp
instead
2693 [22:50:37] <HelloShitty> s/qorks/works
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2695 [22:50:54] <greycat> scp is not a good recommendation for
anything.
2696 [22:51:05] <jhutchins_wk> cryptopsy: Remind me of what the
problem was.
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2698 [22:51:15] <cryptopsy> jhutchins_wk: scroll up
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2700 [22:52:14] <ecadre> coruja: I may be buying a new HDD in the
near future, so the horror of trying to replicate my setup can begin
then. If I'm still interestd in Gnome, maybe a new install
might do it.
2701 [22:53:02] <jhutchins_wk> You haven't said anything
about why scp wouldn't work.
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2703 [22:53:34] <greycat> "The scp protocol is outdated,
inflexible and not readily fixed." <replaced-url
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2706 [22:54:02] <ecadre> jhutchins_wk: is this about setting up a
keypair for logging into a server?
2707 [22:54:03] <cryptopsy> jhutchins_wk: you haven't said
anything about why or how to scp would solve the problem
2708 [22:54:35] <alkisg> cryptopsy: what kind of lag? CPU related
or disk related? Have you run `top` etc to see?
2709 [22:54:39] <cryptopsy> i cannot rsync directly to the
destination since android is the dest and there's no rsync
running on that side
2710 [22:54:41] <jhutchins_wk> Not my problem.
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2713 [22:55:23] <cryptopsy> alkisg: some kind of network lag
bottlenecking the user experience
2714 [22:55:34] <cryptopsy> if i rsync to a tmpfs it doesn't
lag
2715 [22:55:43] <jhutchins_wk> cryptopsy: You don't need
rsync on the target, just sshd.
2716 [22:55:51] <alkisg> cryptopsy: then it sounds like disk
related, not network related?
2717 [22:56:03] <cryptopsy> jhutchins_wk: it will not work without
rsync on the dest
2718 [22:56:06] <greycat> you do need rsync *installed* on the
target system, just not necessarily running in daemon mode
2719 [22:56:27] <cryptopsy> alkisg: yes but why is the dest disk
allowed to bog down the source response time
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2722 [22:57:08] <cryptopsy> greycat: he has no clue what he's
talking about, he suggested SCP without even knowing the problem,
couldn't motivate his reply despite it being outdated like you
pointed out
2723 [22:57:11] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: Is that true for scp as
well?
2724 [22:57:18] <alkisg> cryptopsy: dest disk is debian running
ssh server, and source is an android device running the sshfs
client?
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2726 [22:57:36] <cryptopsy> jhutchins_wk: scp may work in this
case but it would be slow like ftp
2727 [22:57:53] <greycat> scp is a horrible hack using 1980s style
misfeatures (emulating rcp). It constructs a shell command by
injecting the filenames into a string, and then passing it to the
user's shell to be evaluated.
2728 [22:58:05] <greycat> THAT is why it isn't recommended.
2729 [22:58:06] <jhutchins_wk> cryptopsy: I think you're more
in the mood for an argument than a step toward a solution. Bye!
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2732 [22:58:21] <cryptopsy> alkisg: est is android
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2734 [22:58:50] <cryptopsy> jhutchins: glad you would retract your
position but i would appreciate you would not smear the blame
2735 [22:59:15] <alkisg> So you're running an openssh server
on android, and you copy files from debian sshfs client to the
android, and the debian client lags?
2736 [22:59:16] <cryptopsy> it is rather slimey
2737 [22:59:28] <Bushmills> ssh for Magisk would solve the sshd
and rsync problem on the Android device (launches at boot, key auth)
2738 [22:59:31] <cryptopsy> alkisg: yes
2739 [22:59:38] <cryptopsy> that is correct
2740 [23:00:22] <alkisg> OK yeah that's too strange, I
can't imagine android pushing the client limits of a debian
pc... unless the pc is ancient and the android is a monster...
2741 [23:00:25] <cryptopsy> alkisg: figure there must be some
sshfs mount option
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2743 [23:00:43] <cryptopsy> alkisg: its as if its running
real-time
2744 [23:00:48] <w1d3m0d3> ok, so, I just got a random freeze, the
system does not react to mouse moving, sysrq, vt switching
2745 [23:00:54] <w1d3m0d3> these have been happening for a while
but more so lately
2746 [23:00:57] <cryptopsy> it doesn't need to, and thus
doesn't need to bog me down
2747 [23:00:59] <w1d3m0d3> what could cause it and how can i debug
it
2748 [23:01:06] <alkisg> cryptopsy: do check the cpu and the
bandwidth, to see which of them is the bottleneck; top, iftop, iotop
etc
2749 [23:01:16] <greycat> cryptopsy: is the physical connection
between the two systems ethernet, or wireless, or USB, or serial
cable, or what?
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2751 [23:01:32] <cryptopsy> greycat: local network wifi
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2753 [23:01:47] <cryptopsy> but the ping is <10ms while the lag
is >1s
2754 [23:02:11] <cryptopsy> i should see no bogging down of my
local machine it should just buffer everything in memory
2755 [23:02:14] <w1d3m0d3> I am using nvidia proprietary drivers
so that could potentially end my attempts at support but the system
is near unusable with nouveau
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2758 [23:02:40] <cryptopsy> rsync is not comparing file
attributes, not comparing times, not comparing perms ...
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2761 [23:02:57] <cryptopsy> --no-group --no-owner --no-perms
--no-times --whole-file --inplace \
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2763 [23:03:35] <greycat> sounds like you went out of your way to
make it as slow as you could
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2767 [23:04:31] <cryptopsy> why would you say that, checking
attributes would be slower
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2769 [23:04:58] <greycat> <- stunned speechless
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2771 [23:05:13] <greycat> ... have a nice day.
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2776 [23:06:28] <cryptopsy> sshfs has mount option
ServerAliveInterval=15 and ServerAliveCountMax=3
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2779 [23:08:17] <cryptopsy> do not poison the well for the next
guy who attempts to answer, the results speak for themselves --
attribute checking is at least 2x slower and equal lagging
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2807 [23:19:53] <cryptopsy> there is the same lag even if no files
are transfered to the mounted sshfs dir
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2811 [23:20:07] <cryptopsy> or any activity like du ...
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2821 [23:24:43] <SerajewelKS> rsync to an sshfs mount seems silly
anyway considering that rsync has sftp support
2822 [23:25:12] <cryptopsy> SerajewelKS: remote server (android)
doesnt have rsync which is required
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2825 [23:26:43] <SerajewelKS> ah, right. maybe consider using
rclone instead?
2826 [23:26:50] <SerajewelKS> rclone can work with an sftp backend
without special support
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2828 [23:27:42] <cryptopsy> there is an ftp server which has write
perm to external storage but ftp is slow
2829 [23:28:03] <cryptopsy> there must be an sshfs option for it
to buffer
2830 [23:28:15] <SerajewelKS> rclone can work with ftp too but
that's not what i said
2831 [23:28:16] <cryptopsy> i had it last month when i did this
2832 [23:28:45] <cryptopsy> SerajewelKS: what is rclone, an
android app?
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