• 0[00:00:07] <joeli> hmm, I updated and saved the sources.list. I then ran from root "apt-get install task-xfce-desktop" and the final response in the terminal is "E: Unable to locate package task-xfce-desktop"
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• 3[00:00:35] <jmcnaught> joeli: after updating sources.list you need to run "apt-get update"
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• 5[00:00:43] <joeli> ok
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• 8[00:01:00] <joeli> ok, it's working :-)
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• 11[00:01:19] <dfrey> What is the "correct" way to take a network interface down and bring it back up again in Debian 8.3?
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• 16[00:02:35] <dfrey> disregard that. I think I figured it out.
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• 19[00:03:25] <joeli> is there an apt-get to install the "standard system utilities" that I missed during the standard installation?
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• 29[00:06:26] <Brigo> joeli, they should be installed by default.
• 30[00:06:55] <jmcnaught> joeli: "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant"
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• 34[00:07:18] <joeli> thankyou again jmcnaught
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• 97[00:36:49] <andril> i am trying to install Noise or Lollypop - any help too n00b to compile
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• 110[00:42:30] <pencilandpaper> Back. :)
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• 121[00:47:28] <DexterF> well. almost there, but starting kodi (medai center, former xbmc) I get: "Unable to find label "Eq" in plugin library file "/usr/lib/ladspa/caps.so"."
• 122[00:48:02] <DexterF> google leads me here: replaced-url
• 123[00:48:04] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 125[00:49:10] <andril> lollypop solved by DEB :)
• 126[00:49:16] <zykotick9> "apt-get source dwm" is pulling from my sid srv repos instead of desired jessie repo. is there some way to specify with "apt-get source.." what repo to use?
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• 129[00:50:25] <DexterF> zykotick9: -t <version> I think. to be sure check man apt-get
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• 134[00:51:13] <RippyDippy> hey guys. I followed the wiki for nvidia instructions and updated the xorg.conf as recommended. It was booting to a blinking underscore. Any idea why?
• 135[00:51:19] <zykotick9> DexterF: thank you. that worked.
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• 137[00:51:42] <[BNC]dimitry7> Hey guys
• 138[00:51:48] <[BNC]dimitry7> my server isnt' booting up
• 139[00:51:49] <[BNC]dimitry7> replaced-url
• 140[00:52:03] <[BNC]dimitry7> that's the dmesg output, what do you think is wrong?
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• 142[00:54:30] <jhutchins> [BNC]dimitry7: If it's not booting how are you getting output from dmesg?
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• 145[00:55:28] <[BNC]dimitry7> jhutchins, oh, it's a serverin AWS
• 146[00:55:33] <[BNC]dimitry7> so i get the console output only
• 147[00:55:41] <[BNC]dimitry7> from the management web interface
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• 151[00:56:48] * jmcnaught doesn't look at pastebins that require javascript
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• 154[00:57:26] <jmcnaught> [BNC]dimitry7: if you put it on replaced-url
• 155[00:57:28] <[BNC]dimitry7> jmcnaught, oh sorry: replaced-url
• 156[00:57:34] <[BNC]dimitry7> sure :)
• 157[00:57:38] <jhutchins> [BNC]dimitry7: Nothing there tells me the state of the server. It' suspicious that it's having trouble with /var/run
• 158[00:57:49] <DexterF> [BNC]dimitry7: looks like something fails to start up as it cannot write its pid fuile in var. manually did things to /var or have some custom start script that messes with it?
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• 160[00:58:09] <[BNC]dimitry7> or the entire /var partition
• 161[00:58:33] <[BNC]dimitry7> DexterF, /var is in another partition. That's the only thing different
• 162[00:58:48] <DexterF> [BNC]dimitry7: what does fstab look like for var?
• 163[00:59:21] <[BNC]dimitry7> DexterF, ouh, I don't know, I'll have to mount the root partition in another server to see that, let me do it right quick
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• 165[00:59:54] <jmcnaught> [BNC]dimitry7: are you able to boot into a rescue mode?
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• 168[01:00:22] <[BNC]dimitry7> jmcnaught, can't do that either
• 169[01:00:32] <[BNC]dimitry7> I have no access to anything but SSH
• 170[01:00:56] <[BNC]dimitry7> you know, AWS design restrictions
• 171[01:01:03] <jhutchins> [BNC]dimitry7: Great, that means the server is up and running!
• 172[01:01:13] <jmcnaught> [BNC]dimitry7: oh, i don't use AWS, didn't realize they have no console of any kind
• 173[01:01:18] <[BNC]dimitry7> jhutchins, no no
• 174[01:01:23] <jhutchins> [BNC]dimitry7: Or maybe you mean you usually have access?
• 175[01:01:38] <[BNC]dimitry7> I mean, the only thing I have access in a server in the cloud is SSH (generally speaking)
• 176[01:02:24] <jhutchins> [BNC]dimitry7: I realize that this server may be built with Debian, but at this point it's an AWS question, not a Debian question.
• 177[01:02:58] <[BNC]dimitry7> that server is Debian 8
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• 180[01:03:15] <[BNC]dimitry7> customized to work on the cloud yes, but done by the community, not by AWS
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• 184[01:04:44] <jmcnaught> [BNC]dimitry7: still not that familiary with AWS, but a quick look at some of their help pages suggests that you maybe be able to use SSH to connect to a virtual serial console of sorts.. have you checked their support for help doing this? if you can do that, it'll probably be easier for people here to help you with the Debian issues
• 185[01:05:56] <[BNC]dimitry7> jmcnaught, okay, let me try support
• 186[01:06:16] <[BNC]dimitry7> they're sometimes dumb at debian issues but I'll get back here for any specific
• 187[01:06:19] <[BNC]dimitry7> thank you!
• 188[01:06:21] <DexterF> the hell. removed mplayer, now want to reinstall, aptitude search shows it but when I tell to install it says "there is no install cadidate"
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• 191[01:07:23] <armin> DexterF: try "mplayer2"
• 192[01:07:30] <jmcnaught> DexterF: i think in jessie it's been replaced by mplayer2 or mpv
• 193[01:07:57] <armin> and yes, consider mpv.
• 194[01:08:13] <DexterF> how come "mplayer" is not listed as virtual for transistion?
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• 199[01:08:56] <deshka> all, I need a bit of help. I did a dist upgrade from wheezy to jessie. now gnome seems to have broken. I login but it just kicks me back to the login screen. Ive tried reinstallin x and gnome.
• 200[01:09:02] <zykotick9> DexterF: i hear, mplayer will probably be returning to debian with stretch
• 201[01:09:03] <armin> DexterF: why it doesn't install when you use "mplayer"? hm. good question. i don't know.
• 202[01:09:27] <armin> deshka: try starting X from a tty using an xinitrc file.
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• 206[01:11:25] <deshka> using a xinitre file? x does seem to be running root 3422 0.1 0.0 187056 24440 tty7 Ss+ 18:51 0:00 /usr/bin/Xorg
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• 214[01:14:07] <zykotick9> deshka: verify your ~/.Xauthority file isn't owned by root... good luck.
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• 216[01:14:21] <deshka> I can startx with no errors
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• 222[01:15:43] <deshka> its owned by my user with 300
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• 224[01:16:08] <deshka> i've also removed it
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• 232[01:20:40] <DexterF> ergh. got kodi working after downgrading the "caps" package to wheezy. how is bug 722143 closed then
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• 243[01:24:10] <awal1> Not a specific debian question but I wonder why 'Gmail' tells me " This version of Safari is no longuer compatible. Install a compatible browser." when I use 'xombrero' browser for check my gmail account :D Any clue?
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• 251[01:27:36] <jmcnaught> awal1: xombrero is probably based on webkit, and webkit doesn't get updated on Debian
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• 259[01:30:27] <awal1> jmcnaught, hmmm, but which relation between what you said and Gmail (google mail) message?
• 260[01:30:40] <awal1> I run xombrero not safari :D
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• 264[01:31:22] <jmcnaught> awal1: gmail probably just thinks that xombrero is safari. anyways you should probably use chromium or icewease/firefox if you want security support for your browser in jessie
• 265[01:31:30] <markybob> awal1: it's the same renderer
• 266[01:31:39] <markybob> awal1: replaced-url
• 267[01:31:57] <teraflops> awal1: webkit is the engine, and it looks xombrero is outdated
• 268[01:32:58] <jmcnaught> DexterF: are you using the kodi packages in jessie-backports? If you're using kodi from some third-party source, it might not take Debian specific stuff into consideration
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• 280[01:34:44] <DexterF> jmcnaught: kodi from jessie-backports
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• 287[01:35:16] <awal1> jmcnaught, markybob, teraflops, ok.
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• 290[01:35:52] <awal1> my main webbrowser is iceweasel, sometimes chromium; just trying xombrero by curiosity :)
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• 294[01:37:21] <simonlnu> it uses webkit, as does opera, chrom(e/ium), safari, and some others,their browser auto detect is marking it as "safari based".
• 295[01:38:32] <awal1> seems the reason yeah
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• 297[01:39:05] <markybob> chrome doesn't really use webkit anymore. they forked it
• 298[01:39:17] <DexterF> awal1: check out Vivaldi, chrome engine based browser from the original Opera guy, my new favorite </ot>
• 299[01:39:25] <simonlnu> they also do version detect. obviously. xombrero is using an old version.
• 300[01:40:02] <awal1> jmcnaught, why 'webkit'isn't updated by debian ; I dont really get you
• 301[01:40:07] <simonlnu> (2 + 2 = 4 ...)
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• 303[01:40:36] <awal1> Dexterf, I may try it by curiosity , if in debian repositories, yeah
• 304[01:40:45] <jmcnaught> awal1: it's in the release notes for jessie: replaced-url
• 305[01:41:07] <awal1> jmcnaught, ok, i check that
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• 307[01:41:20] <simonlnu> it isn't
• 308[01:41:49] <jmcnaught> awal1: note that in general most packages in a stable release don't get there versions upgraded, they get security and bug fixes backported. chromium and iceweasel are two major exceptions, but the security team only has so many resources, cannot keep up with all the browsers available
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• 310[01:42:30] * jmcnaught doesn't see the point of using Debian and a proprietary web browser.
• 311[01:43:11] <simonlnu> awal1: replaced-url
• 312[01:43:20] <awal1> jmcnaught, ok, I understood
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• 314[01:43:43] <simonlnu> indeed, but to each their own i suppose
• 315[01:44:11] <awal1> well & fully served here with Iceweasel :)
• 316[01:44:23] <DexterF> jmcnaught: I don't see the point in not suing the software that does the job best for you. f*ck firefox, seriously, that software is so overrated
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• 318[01:45:49] * simonlnu likes firefox *but we're going OT*
• 319[01:45:49] <jmcnaught> !start a browser war
• 320[01:45:49] <dpkg> Mosaic is more user-friendly than Amaya!
• 321[01:45:58] * simonlnu giggles
• 322[01:46:21] <abrotman> thta's not saying much
• 323[01:46:31] <polyzen> !start a wm war
• 324[01:46:31] <dpkg> enlightenment sucks!
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• 329[01:49:02] <simonlnu> !start a cpu war
• 330[01:49:02] <dpkg> Here's a nickel, kid. Go buy yourself a 6502
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• 332[01:49:38] <DexterF> terrific :)
• 333[01:49:39] <simonlnu> my cell phone is faster, no thanks :P
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• 336[01:50:27] <DexterF> yeah, I don't go to war anymore anyway: I go to bed now. bye all
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• 342[01:53:57] <simonlnu> i don't even think amaya is in debian anymore. *current* debian.
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• 344[01:54:41] <abrotman> judd: versions amaya
• 345[01:54:42] <judd> No package named 'amaya' was found in amd64.
• 346[01:54:48] <abrotman> judd: versions amaya --arch i386
• 347[01:54:49] <judd> No package named 'amaya' was found in i386.
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• 365[02:01:45] <heap_> hi, i occured strange issue,, running kernel 4.4.0 and samba.. when there is a big load (read) from smb the network stop to work... i mean i can ping eth0 on the server where samba is running but cant ping gw .. i have to disconnect eth0 and after it everything works again... any idea?
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• 375[02:06:33] <somiaj> heap_: note, backports don't have the quality of testing of stable packges. It could be some issue with how the kernel is configured vs jessie. Is both samba and the kernel from the backports?
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• 377[02:06:46] <somiaj> heap_: any reason you are using the kernel from the backports? Does the jessie kernel not support your hardware?
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• 379[02:07:01] <markybob> somiaj: that's not backports. backports has 4.3
• 380[02:07:26] <somiaj> markybob: oh and here I was thinking this was stable, I don't keep up with what is in backports
• 381[02:07:49] <markybob> heap_: for testing you should go to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic
• 382[02:07:59] <somiaj> so the issue is sid. I htink someone more knowledgeable about the subtleness of networking would be of better help
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• 402[02:11:33] <heap_> is there any connection between kernel and samba?
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• 405[02:12:01] <markybob> heap_: network stack and a network daemon? yeah, of course
• 406[02:12:20] <jmcnaught> heap_: are you running a server on testing or unstable? you should consider using stable
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• 421[02:20:26] <juan_hernandez> Helli.
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• 443[02:29:55] <juan_hernandez> Hello.
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• 447[02:30:47] <juan_hernandez> Will the windows-executable Debian installer work on Windows 8 64 bits?.
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• 452[02:33:50] <awal1> juan_hernandez, are you bored?
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• 454[02:34:27] <juan_hernandez> awal1: no, why?
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• 473[02:42:54] <awal1> juan_hernandez, excuses, I thought you were trolling :) Are you reffering to replaced-url
• 474[02:43:23] <juan_hernandez> Hello. Will the executable to install Debian from within Windows mentioned here:replaced-url
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• 476[02:44:06] <juan_hernandez> awal1: yes.
• 477[02:44:26] <juan_hernandez> sorry, i just saw your message. IEC
• 478[02:44:40] <markybob> juan_hernandez: it should. "Auto-detects 64-bit (x86-64) support in host CPUs, and automatically selects x86-64 flavor of Debian whenever supported, completely transparent to the user."
• 479[02:45:02] <juan_hernandez> IRC is very awkward with the phone's browser.
• 480[02:45:07] <awal1> never heard about that project, no idea, sorry, juan_hernandez
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• 487[02:46:18] <markybob> juan_hernandez: i've never touched windows 8 though. i don't want the aids
• 488[02:46:44] <abrotman> ahem ..
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• 490[02:48:09] <awal1> juan_hernandez, just try it and see
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• 493[02:49:00] <juan_hernandez_> will it work for wub
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• 496[02:49:34] <juan_hernandez_> windows 8 (see above). I disconnected.
• 497[02:49:42] <markybob> juan_hernandez: you'd have to ask the ubuntu people
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• 502[02:50:08] <markybob> juan_hernandez_: actually i can tell you (google and stuff). "At this time, Wubi does not work with Windows 8 default boot-loader."
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• 506[02:50:14] <juan_hernandez_> markybob: why? it is a part of debian :-)
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• 509[02:50:24] <markybob> juan_hernandez_: ubuntu is not part of debian
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• 514[02:50:57] <juan_hernandez_> markybob: no, i mean the windows installer
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• 518[02:51:44] <awal1> I guess that debian .exe is something similar to wubi (abandoned by canonical, I think); if thats the case, download the package and execute it juan_hernandez
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• 521[02:52:25] <awal1> it wont harm your windows machine. at any time you can remove it from control panel
• 522[02:52:29] <markybob> juan_hernandez_: i doubt you'll find anyone here that's actually tried it
• 523[02:52:49] <markybob> juan_hernandez_: don't know why you don't use the normal installer
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• 528[02:54:01] <juan_hernandez_> markybob: i cant use a cd rom or usb memory stick.
• 529[02:54:05] <awal1> markybob, that debian installer , if similar to ubuntu wubi, installs debian alongside windows like any windows software
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• 531[02:54:29] <juan_hernandez_> no, it is not like wubi AFAICT
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• 533[02:54:57] <awal1> never tried them both, i just seen them in toutube
• 534[02:55:07] <awal1> youtube ^
• 535[02:55:43] <awal1> juan_hernandez, what is your goal?
• 536[02:56:11] <awal1> try debian? or you are a debian user yet?
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• 542[02:58:17] <awal1> juan_hernandez, your best alternative, if you cant use cd/usb, is VM
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• 552[03:02:14] <RippyDippy> hey guys, any idea why init 3 just brings me to a blinking underline
• 553[03:03:20] <simonlnu> because it doesn't really do anything in debian?
• 554[03:03:52] <RippyDippy> simonlnu: good to know, so how do I leave an xsession and get to pure command line
• 555[03:04:05] <simonlnu> ctrl-alt-F1?
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• 557[03:04:20] <simonlnu> that's what i do...
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• 559[03:04:29] <RippyDippy> simonlnu: good man
• 560[03:04:43] <simonlnu> o_O
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• 562[03:05:58] <RippyDippy> simonlnu: I dont think that exits x server
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• 564[03:06:45] <abrotman> RippyDippy: you asked how to get to the CLI
• 565[03:06:47] <RippyDippy> simonlnu: Ahh lightdm was the problem. All clear
• 566[03:07:02] <RippyDippy> abrotman: I figured it all out ... for now
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• 569[03:09:51] <simonlnu> you exit by exiting your session and stopping the display manager if you have one installed and running. and you figured it out. good.
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• 590[03:23:19] <anonymous__> Hello
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• 598[03:26:32] <mx204> Hello anonymous_ Why no user name?
• 599[03:27:19] <AlexLikeRock> why you ask mx204 ?
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• 602[03:27:49] <anonymous__> mx204, I just wanted to know if this was the Debian support room.
• 603[03:27:51] <mx204> Well if everyone just signed in with "anonymous" it would get pretty confusing.
• 604[03:28:04] <AlexLikeRock> of cource ;-)
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• 606[03:28:14] <AlexLikeRock> mx204, !ask
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• 610[03:31:33] <mx204> Exciting.
• 611[03:31:42] <dvs> zzzzzzzz
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• 614[03:33:26] <mx204> So what's the question anonymous__ ?
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• 616[03:33:36] <mx204> Maybe I can help.
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• 618[03:34:18] <anonymous__> mx204, How do I get Debian with KDE already configured?
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• 620[03:34:44] <AlexLikeRock> anonymous__, aptitude install KDE
• 621[03:35:26] <mx204> I installed Debian without a WM but I'm pretty sure there is a distro of Debian with just KDE.
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• 623[03:36:12] <abrotman> There is an ISO for KDE, yes
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• 631[03:39:48] <mx204> I've given a chance to Xfce, Cinnamon, Gnome & others but I'd have to say for me personally, I like KDE the best.
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• 635[03:40:13] <dvs> !mx204++
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• 687[04:05:36] <kellymi53a> I lost the bluetooth icon in my taskbar. How to get it back?
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• 690[04:06:35] <kellymi53a> sudo systemctl disable bluetooth
• 691[04:06:57] <kellymi53a> Will try typing enable now.
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• 695[04:08:53] <mdim> hi folks
• 696[04:09:02] <mdim> I use Jessie + backports for it
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• 700[04:09:44] <mdim> recently I've noticed a conflict with LibreOffice. Jessie's stable version is 4.3.3, but from backports is 5.1.1 or something like that. However, some packages are conflicting
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• 702[04:10:07] <mdim> has anyone noticed the same? Is it possible at the moment to install the latest LibreOffice from Jessie backports?
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• 705[04:11:14] <abrotman> mdim: what error?
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• 709[04:11:57] <mdim> abrotman: this one: replaced-url
• 710[04:12:54] * abrotman looks
• 711[04:13:07] <abrotman> you forgot your -t
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• 715[04:13:55] <mdim> abrotman: you're right. Thanks!
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• 732[04:23:05] <TheKernelMan> But
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• 736[04:24:21] <kellyiuu87> sudo systemctl disable bluetooth
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• 807[05:17:25] <posi> What's the deal with installing a bunch of .apt files if it has a bunch of dependencies? Should I use dpkg? Can I use apt?
• 808[05:17:35] <darlinger> on this link, can someone clarify on the meaning of "yes, package list"? replaced-url
• 809[05:17:43] <darlinger> doing my research
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• 839[05:39:49] <Akuw> hi debian
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• 867[06:07:56] <hiexpo> hi all
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• 872[06:13:04] <AlexLikeRock> HI hiexpo
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• 886[06:19:31] <AlexLikeRock> help
• 887[06:19:41] <AlexLikeRock> how to add module php_mysql
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• 889[06:19:49] <AlexLikeRock> to php.ini ??
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• 896[06:24:47] <jmcnaught> AlexLikeRock: the module should be enabled automatically by installing the php5-mysql package
• 897[06:25:10] <AlexLikeRock> but, not are loaded !
• 898[06:26:43] <AlexLikeRock> lol
• 899[06:26:47] <AlexLikeRock> i resintall
• 900[06:26:51] <AlexLikeRock> and load it
• 901[06:27:03] <AlexLikeRock> tanks so much for answer jmcnaught
• 902[06:28:16] <hiexpo> !mysql
• 903[06:28:17] <dpkg> MySQL is a fast and reliable open source relational database implementing a large subset of SQL. It is the world's most popular open source database. To install, ask me about <install mysql>. replaced-url
• 904[06:29:47] <hiexpo> !install mysql
• 905[06:29:48] <dpkg> To install the MySQL server, "aptitude install mysql-server". You might also want to "aptitude install php5-mysql" and ask me about <install apache> <install php>. Also check out the <phpmyadmin> package. See also <mysql checking>, <mysql memory usage>.
• 906[06:30:06] <jmcnaught> hiexpo: the topic of this channel has examples of how to message the bot privately :)
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• 908[06:31:14] <hiexpo> jmcnaught, was doing that for AlexLikeRock i already know how
• 909[06:31:40] <hiexpo> sorry
• 910[06:32:09] <jmcnaught> hiexpo: no worries, i didn't realize that's what you were trying to do
• 911[06:32:25] <hiexpo> should have did it diff.
• 912[06:32:35] <AlexLikeRock> i have mysql workin fine
• 913[06:32:52] <AlexLikeRock> but faile module php_mysql
• 914[06:32:58] <AlexLikeRock> i fix
• 915[06:33:15] <hiexpo> kool
• 916[06:33:16] <jmcnaught> AlexLikeRock: on Jessie at least there are php5enmod and php5dismod commands (like the a2enmod/a2dismod commands for apache2) for disabling and enabling modules that you could probably use next time instead of reinstalling the package
• 917[06:33:35] <AlexLikeRock> lol
• 918[06:33:38] <AlexLikeRock> tanks
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• 929[06:39:55] <okee> Where do I find nss-myhostname? I get an error in "dmesg | tail, indicating that "Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!". This program is not in the repos.
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• 931[06:40:54] <jmcnaught> okee: the package is called libnss-myhostname
• 932[06:41:23] <okee> jmcnaught> Why is it showing up under the other name in dmesg?
• 933[06:41:47] <jmcnaught> okee: package names aren't always exactly the same as the binaries or libraries that they provide
• 934[06:41:55] <okee> jmcnaught> ok, it is installing. What does this package do?
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• 939[06:43:53] <jmcnaught> okee: the package has a description you can read with "apt-cache show libnss-myhostname". NSS is the Name Service Switch, and it controls how things like hostnames, usernames, groups get looked up
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• 949[06:52:38] <AlexLikeRock> its workin my web page with mysql and php
• 950[06:52:47] <AlexLikeRock> cheers for me :->
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• 952[06:53:30] <jmcnaught> AlexLikeRock: hurray!
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• 993[07:21:09] <mdim> how do I figure out which packages contains the ar command?
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• 998[07:22:35] <ryouma> mdim: apt-file search or some such
• 999[07:22:48] <ryouma> but i don't think it works well with backports
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• 1002[07:23:55] <mdim> ryouma: no results returned on Jessie
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• 1007[07:25:55] <ryouma> mdim: strangely, it is hanging for me
• 1008[07:26:55] <jmcnaught> mdim: what command did you use? to search for which installed package provides a file you can use "dpkg -S /usr/bin/ar" for example
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• 1011[07:27:24] <mdim> jmcnaught: I used dpkg -S ar, but that gave too many results
• 1012[07:27:30] <mdim> anyhow, got it. It's binutils
• 1013[07:27:37] <jmcnaught> mdim: try the full path
• 1014[07:27:43] <mdim> jmcnaught: yup, that did it
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• 1038[07:50:00] <boss_> hi all
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• 1040[07:50:35] <boss_> i am trying to reinstall my grub i am facing this error "error:cannot find a device for /"
• 1041[07:50:54] <boss_> but i mounted my root directory in /mnt folder
• 1042[07:50:59] <boss_> any suggestions.??
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• 1044[07:52:51] <boss_> anybody on??
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• 1050[07:57:32] <jmcnaught> boss_: are you doing this from a live disk?
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• 1052[07:58:10] <boss_> jmcnaught yes
• 1053[07:58:21] <boss_> i am doing from live disk
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• 1055[07:58:28] <jmcnaught> !reinstall grub
• 1056[07:58:29] <dpkg> See replaced-url
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• 1059[08:00:54] <boss_> jmcnaught when chroot /myrrot/ "failed to run command "/bin/bash" : Exec format error
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• 1061[08:01:56] <jmcnaught> boss_: is your installed system 64-bit but the live disk is 32-bit (or vice versa)?
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• 1065[08:04:29] <boss_> oops sorry i didn't check that one i will try once again with 64bit and i ll ping youi thanks jmcnaught
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• 1067[08:05:02] <jmcnaught> boss_: good luck
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• 1072[08:07:25] <erm3nda> HI. Im looking for something that allows me to insert a USB stick then "expand" my /home or other folders in adittion. I meant to add some custom content inside a media/user/usb1/home/user then load it inside the current /home/user
• 1073[08:08:12] <erm3nda> I could understand that I will run a sh script to load them, but cannot figure out how to share 2 folders inside just 1
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• 1075[08:09:21] <cooldharma06> Thanks jmcnaught
• 1076[08:10:10] <aerth> erm3nda, why use /media/user/usb1? just add something to your fstab to mount it at /home/user/morestuff for example
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• 1078[08:11:32] <erm3nda> I want to be able to mount "my shit" on every Linux I use. I don't wanna mantain a SO anymore, just need to be able to add some stuff to /home /bin and maybe /etc
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• 1081[08:12:52] <erm3nda> Adding a folder to current path then got my own binarys is OK
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• 1083[08:13:20] <erm3nda> what i cannot do is to mount 2 folders in same path, ie /home/user + /media/user/usb1/home
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• 1085[08:13:43] <erm3nda> Im sure im not the first one trying this... im so neewbie to be real :)
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• 1087[08:14:21] <aerth> maybe what you are looking for is mounting as a loop device
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• 1090[08:14:58] <jmcnaught> erm3nda: i'm not sure i understand your problem or what you're trying to accomplish. Your USB stick has some directories on it, and you want them to show up in your home directory?
• 1091[08:15:03] <aerth> or partition the usb drive
• 1092[08:15:42] <erm3nda> My usb has no current directories, but i will create few, but for sure those 3. /bin /home /etc
• 1093[08:16:03] <erm3nda> I want to "add" or "override" some data from my usb to my current Linux box
• 1094[08:16:25] <aerth> like an autorun virus
• 1095[08:16:38] <jmcnaught> erm3nda: this sounds misguided. you want to have some programs that are only installed when the USB stick is plugged in?
• 1096[08:16:45] <erm3nda> dont... like a custom key that i can move across my lot of boxes
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• 1098[08:17:29] <erm3nda> Actually, im using pam_usb to use a USB key for login and so on
• 1099[08:17:34] <crocodilehunter> Who knows how to temporarily update my DNS nameserver?? /etc/resolv.con??..
• 1100[08:17:54] <erm3nda> Now, i wanna add more "features" like add my own binaries. that is done by just adding it to path, but i cannot "expand" the /home
• 1101[08:18:39] <erm3nda> I did not say "install" nor "exec". no matter how to load, my problem is about loading more stuff on a current mounted point
• 1102[08:19:07] <erm3nda> Actually I only can think on a script that really copies to the system my stuff then removes when the usb is out...
• 1103[08:19:14] <aerth> would fstab be an option?
• 1104[08:19:14] <erm3nda> but asking here power users to know what is better...
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• 1106[08:19:33] <erm3nda> can i mount 2 directories to same path in fstab?
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• 1108[08:19:56] <erm3nda> folder1 and folder2 into /home/user
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• 1110[08:21:04] <erm3nda> crocodilehunter, YES, edit that file, add what you like
• 1111[08:21:27] <erm3nda> nameserver 8.8.8.8
• 1112[08:21:32] <erm3nda> that for google's dns, as example
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• 1116[08:22:13] <erm3nda> for tools like nslookup you can specify the DNS server to query, example, nslookup google 8.8.8.8 would look at 8.8.8.8 dns server
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• 1118[08:22:22] <jmcnaught> erm3nda: to do something like that you'd need to use a filesystem like aufs or unionfs, but honestly to be it doesn't sound like a very good idea at least for binaries and libraries, or for /etc. I think if you really need some custom programs that are only on the USB stick it would be better to treat them like portable binaries that live on their own temporary path (like /media/something)
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• 1120[08:23:23] <erm3nda> the main purpose of mix them is for the /home folder, so I can just override some folders/configs just loading the usb
• 1121[08:23:34] <erm3nda> unionfs sounds like what i look for ...
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• 1123[08:23:51] <aerth> sounds like a cool usb stick for sure
• 1124[08:24:41] <erm3nda> i wanna have my stuff into a stick, saved into a cloud or whatever. don't wanna loose my proyects, even if my desktop flys to ground from home...
• 1125[08:25:25] <erm3nda> being able to move my work just grabbing a usb sounds cool for me, and Linux allows me to do that
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• 1127[08:26:13] <erm3nda> jmcnaught, thanks
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• 1129[08:27:13] <jmcnaught> erm3nda: not sure if you should thank me :P because i'm still not convinced it's not going to cause problems for you.
• 1130[08:27:49] <erm3nda> jmcnaught, thanks for point me out names of those programs. I'll try, what I choose is up to me. Go in peace :)
• 1131[08:28:14] <aerth> i'd partition it and mount to /opt/this and /opt/that and add /opt/this/bin to my $PATH
• 1132[08:28:22] <erm3nda> I have 1 year old Debian wich I used to learn more
• 1133[08:28:29] <erm3nda> now im finally customizing it as I want
• 1134[08:28:40] <erm3nda> expand my own system with a stick is what i want :)
• 1135[08:28:49] <erm3nda> if i dont put my stick you cant use some software
• 1136[08:28:50] <erm3nda> :)
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• 1138[08:29:31] <aerth> you will need to add the mounted usb bin/ folder (or wherever the binaries are) to your user's $PATH
• 1139[08:29:41] <erm3nda> sure
• 1140[08:29:57] <aerth> :D
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• 1143[08:31:28] <erm3nda> One more question: when i started using Debian, i was finally "forced" to use a bunch of alias who make my life easier. My question is: Does exist any simple software to add and maintain aliases or commands?? Im a bit impressed that no one did build it, or at least i cannot find it
• 1144[08:31:51] <erm3nda> Actually im building it at my own using Python + Tkinter, but would be great if I found anything "usable"
• 1145[08:32:09] <jmcnaught> erm3nda: indeed, power to you. still it's worth considering why the filesystem is the way it is, and why doing something like this isn't more common, or why/who solutions for backing up and syncing to cloud don't do thing like this.
• 1146[08:32:12] <aerth> do you just add them to your ~/.{shell}rc ?
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• 1148[08:33:12] <erm3nda> My system has bash_aliases for that. What i meant is that there's nothing like an GUI to add, remove, deactivate, etc...
• 1149[08:33:33] <erm3nda> Or better, something like a GUI commander when you can save your own commands then launch them just from a Tray icon or whatever
• 1150[08:34:00] <erm3nda> Actually i use ctrl+r plus my own aliases and is ok, just guessing why didn't found anything like that
• 1151[08:34:26] <jmcnaught> probably because most people that would bother to add aliases wouldn't need a GUI to do it
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• 1155[08:35:34] <erm3nda> My problem is not about addint them into a txt file heheh... but would be amazing to get them all into a tray list then be able to click them
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• 1163[08:39:14] <aerth> yes i believe the normal thing is to just add to your ~/.bashrc so it "automatically" defines them when you log in
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• 1165[08:39:39] <jmcnaught> oh i understand now. desktop files might be what you're looking for. they're basically a standard file type that multiple desktop environments understand, and you can put custom ones in ~/.local/share/applications
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• 1170[08:42:04] <erm3nda> Seems unionfs is a replacement of my current HDD format. That's a problem, cuz I do not plan to add that filesystem for every machine I touch
• 1171[08:42:18] <erm3nda> Just looking for a fast "loading" of my shit integrated
• 1172[08:43:07] <erm3nda> Seems I should use subfolders instead, to cutoff lot of future problems. thank you, now I now what to do.
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• 1174[08:43:28] <erm3nda> now I know :/
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• 1183[08:47:39] <darxmurf> hi all
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• 1188[08:50:24] <cooldharma06> !reinstall-grub
• 1189[08:50:53] <cooldharma06> Jmcnaught can u send the grub reinstall steps
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• 1191[08:51:40] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell cooldharma06 -about grub reinstall
• 1192[08:51:54] <jmcnaught> errr
• 1193[08:52:00] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell cooldharma06 -about reinstall grub
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• 1197[08:52:38] <jmcnaught> cooldharma06: you can also messge the bot (see the topic for examples).
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• 1211[08:57:23] <cooldharma06> Hey u there jmcnaught
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• 1213[08:58:31] <cooldharma06> Can u send me once again grub install steps I am boss__. It's my real account
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• 1224[09:03:15] <jmcnaught> cooldharma06: "/msg dpkg reinstall grub"
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• 1226[09:03:32] <erm3nda> jmcnaught, actually, overlayfs is the one most used solution for mixing folders. aufs is a rewrite of unionfs, both older than overlayfs.
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• 1230[09:04:22] <cooldharma06> Thanks jmcnaught
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• 1235[09:06:57] <jmcnaught> erm3nda: cool. it's an interesting idea to be sure, but i still think it'll cause more problems than it solves
• 1236[09:07:21] <cooldharma06> jmcnaught facing error will not proceed with blocklists
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• 1240[09:07:46] <cooldharma06> When running grub-install command.
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• 1263[09:15:09] <jmcnaught> cooldharma06: blocklists? do you have more than one linux distro installed on this computer? what are you booting from? Are you using the installer image's rescue mode?
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• 1267[09:16:50] <jmcnaught> cooldharma06: if i recall correctly the installer's rescue mode might even have a menu option to reinstall grub, but it might require you to manually mount /boot if it's on a separate partition.
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• 1269[09:17:29] <cooldharma06> I have debian grub and root are in same partition
• 1270[09:18:00] <namespace> How do I debug issues like evince not starting?
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• 1272[09:18:21] <jmcnaught> cooldharma06: you have debian what? debian live? try the rescue mode of the debian installer
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• 1274[09:18:52] <cooldharma06> I used Ubuntu live cd
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• 1276[09:20:07] <jmcnaught> namespace: have you tried running evince from a terminal window? does it give you errors there?
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• 1279[09:20:28] <cooldharma06> In some other partition i installed Ubuntu then my grub got finished
• 1280[09:20:51] <namespace> jmcnaught: Yes, but search engines are useless to help with them.
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• 1282[09:21:33] <cooldharma06> I removed (deleted) Ubuntu things now.. jmcnaught
• 1283[09:22:38] <jmcnaught> cooldharma06: try the debian installer's rescue mode
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• 1285[09:23:40] <jmcnaught> namespace: if you put the errors in replaced-url
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• 1287[09:24:37] <cooldharma06> jmcnaught thanks I ll try that one and then I ll ping u..
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• 1291[09:26:41] <darxmurf> anybody is using salt over here ?
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• 1295[09:30:13] <nkuttler> darxmurf: people in #salt certainly are
• 1296[09:30:27] <darxmurf> I'm there too but I think they sleep :)
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• 1305[09:36:04] <hergestelly> hello, when i start OS need to type in mod probe snd-hda-intel in order to get sound, my sound card is Azalia and codec ALC662, anyone know how to resolve this??
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• 1316[09:38:14] <darxmurf> hergestelly: add your module in the module list to load at boot
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• 1318[09:38:37] <debkad> hello, i'm installed debian from grub2, not sure if i installed it with good parameter or not but anyway, the install finished but no panel ( lxde )
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• 1320[09:39:05] <debkad> PS: tryed both 686-pae and 586 with same issue
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• 1325[09:40:20] <hergestelly> darxmurf tried that and gives out message failed to load module
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• 1328[09:41:29] <hergestelly> but after i log in and try from terminal it loads ok
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• 1330[09:41:54] <ASKPERPRECISION> Hello
• 1331[09:42:06] <hergestelly> hi
• 1332[09:42:08] <debkad> I can do anything if i don't switch to ttyX
• 1333[09:42:40] <ASKPERPRECISION> Hello
• 1334[09:42:46] <debkad> hello
• 1335[09:42:47] <jmcnaught> debkad: you can log into lxde but there's no panel?
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• 1339[09:43:20] <debkad> jmcnaught, yeah it say something about libXRes.so.1 is invalide ELF header
• 1340[09:43:30] <debkad> when i try to launch lxpanel
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• 1342[09:43:39] <ASKPERPRECISION> Can I install Debian Linux on my Dell workstation ?
• 1343[09:44:13] <darxmurf> hergestelly: where did you add your module load ?
• 1344[09:44:26] <ASKPERPRECISION> I am not sure all driver will work...
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• 1346[09:44:57] <jmcnaught> ASKPERPRECISION: you could try a live cd, or search for the model and the word linux on the internet
• 1347[09:45:07] <hergestelly> debkad did you installed debian using the textual version or graphical, because the graphical gives errors most of the times and the system is unstable
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• 1352[09:45:55] <jmcnaught> debkad: yeah, what do you mean you "installed debian from grub2"?
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• 1354[09:46:13] <sn0wden4Pres> Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (Romans 1:21)
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• 1356[09:46:19] <landoc1> ASKPERPRECISION, lots of Dell workstations are fully supported. jmcnaught is right though, you should try using a live cd first.
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• 1358[09:47:38] <ASKPERPRECISION> Ok O
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• 1360[09:48:03] <ASKPERPRECISION> I will try it... thank you (≧▽≦)
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• 1362[09:48:34] <sn0wden4Pres> Jesus would have a been a GNU/Linux user!
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• 1368[09:49:47] <sn0wden4Pres> hello beaver
• 1369[09:50:06] <sn0wden4Pres> can you tell me about your beaver?
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• 1376[09:52:37] <jmcnaught> sn0wden4Pres: do you need Debian support? That's what this channel is for, if you're looking to chat there are other channels. Please respect the topic.
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• 1381[09:53:51] <debkad> power is gone sorry
• 1382[09:54:14] <debkad> jmcnaught, no panel
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• 1385[09:55:00] <jmcnaught> debkad: what do you mean you "installed debian from grub2"? Are there other linux distros installed on this system, that you maybe installed over somehow?
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• 1388[09:55:43] <debkad> jmcnaught, yes i have two other linux, i installed debian from grub, i can't by usb or cd
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• 1394[09:58:05] <jmcnaught> debkad: please elaborate on how you installed debian from grub. is it possible that lxpanel is from a different distro? what does "file /usr/bin/lxpanel" say, or "apt-cache policy lxpanel"?
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• 1396[09:58:48] <bugzc> the cinnamon freezing bug has been driving me farking insane. I wish the "stable" in debian also meant "not crashing" and not just "you're stuck with old packages".
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• 1400[09:59:12] <debkad> jmcnaught, file /usr/bin/lxpanel say it is ELF 32-bit ...
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• 1402[10:00:11] <debkad> apt-cache say 0.7.2.1 or something like that
• 1403[10:00:30] <debkad> I switched from tty1 can't remember exactely
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• 1405[10:01:15] <jmcnaught> debkad: maybe you just need to reinstall the lxpanel package then?
• 1406[10:01:35] <debkad> jmcnaught, that was the first thing i did
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• 1408[10:02:31] <debkad> I installed libxres-dev two thinking that will solve libXres.so.1 thing
• 1409[10:02:40] <debkad> too*
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• 1413[10:03:42] <ansyeblya> hi people. how to completely remove ssh-agent from jessie? I made the biggets mistake in my life
• 1414[10:03:51] <debkad> that is the error
• 1415[10:03:59] <debkad> lxpanel: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libXRes.so.1: invalid ELF header
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• 1418[10:04:04] <jmcnaught> debkad: did you reinstall the libxred1 package?
• 1419[10:04:18] <debkad> jmcnaught, i will
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• 1421[10:04:38] <ansyeblya> its worse than a virus, pls ;/
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• 1423[10:04:50] <sn0wden4Pres> jmcnaught: thank-you for rubuking me jmcnaught
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• 1425[10:05:08] <debkad> jmcnaught, not found
• 1426[10:05:28] <jmcnaught> debkad: mind my typos, the package is called libxres1
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• 1428[10:06:08] <jmcnaught> ansyeblya: ssh-agent is part of the openssh-client package, which also provides the ssh client. what problem are you having?
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• 1430[10:06:38] <ansyeblya> I did even --purge remove of both openssh-{client,server}
• 1431[10:06:44] <ansyeblya> reinstalled but its still there ..
• 1432[10:06:50] <ansyeblya> removed all entries
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• 1434[10:06:56] <ansyeblya> removed from my user autostart
• 1435[10:07:06] <ansyeblya> but its still there and I couldnt use scp to my machine now
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• 1437[10:08:01] <landoc1> ansyeblya, do you mean that ssh-agent is still starting when you log in?
• 1438[10:08:05] <ansyeblya> yea
• 1439[10:08:07] <ansyeblya> ...
• 1440[10:08:13] <ansyeblya> if I kill -9 it, it just gets a defunct
• 1441[10:08:20] <ansyeblya> and still sort of persists
• 1442[10:08:29] <ansyeblya> tried removing all ssh* from /tmp
• 1443[10:08:34] <ansyeblya> none of that helped
• 1444[10:08:57] <debkad> jmcnaught, some errors when reinstalling it for libsdl something close to that, how i can logout ?
• 1445[10:09:09] <erterterterter> find / -name ssh-agent and remove it
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• 1447[10:09:43] <landoc1> ansyeblya, this will remove all keys that ssh-agent knows about: ssh-add -D
• 1448[10:09:50] <ansyeblya> ok I started the search with xdev now ..
• 1449[10:09:54] <ansyeblya> ssh-add -D already done
• 1450[10:09:57] <ansyeblya> it has no entries
• 1451[10:10:00] <debkad> killall -9 ssh-agent
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• 1453[10:10:05] <ansyeblya> killall ofc done
• 1454[10:10:40] <ansyeblya> trying to scp to my machine, still getting this:
• 1455[10:10:41] <ansyeblya> Identity added: /root/.ssh/id_rsa (rsa w/o comment)
• 1456[10:10:41] <ansyeblya> Agent pid 3166
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• 1459[10:10:51] <ansyeblya> and file doesnt get transfered
• 1460[10:10:55] <debkad> alt-ctrl+T not work alt+F2 too
• 1461[10:10:57] <ansyeblya> after I enter the password
• 1462[10:11:04] <debkad> i'm stacked
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• 1465[10:11:53] <ansyeblya> oh ok erter - you are the GOD
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• 1467[10:12:00] <jmcnaught> debkad: paraphrased errors aren't really helpful. use a paste site, install pastebinit so you don't need to copy from the tty1
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• 1469[10:12:13] <debkad> waht equivalent of alt-ctrl-T
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• 1471[10:12:15] <ansyeblya> it actually found some stuff in aufs /bin ....
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• 1473[10:12:31] <ansyeblya> then I removed and now it seem to be gone. ok Ill try to reboot and see. if not, will be back
• 1474[10:12:40] <aerth> pastebinit? thanks
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• 1476[10:12:53] <debkad> jmcnaught, ttyX only work, even terminal can't open, no idea what shortcut used in debian
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• 1483[10:14:46] <debkad> brb trying some painful command through tty1 may be i can logout
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• 1491[10:17:37] <ansyeblya> ok erter seemingly left the channel, but he is confirmed GOD
• 1492[10:17:46] <debkad> jmcnaught, no panel :/
• 1493[10:18:00] <ansyeblya> had to cleanup .bashrc abit, but generally wouldnt even think of checking fu**ing aufs ... /bin entries
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• 1499[10:19:43] <jmcnaught> debkad: install pastebinit, and use it to automatically make pastes from your commands with a pipe, like "apt-cache policy libxres1 | pastebinit"
• 1500[10:20:01] <jmcnaught> ansyeblya: your /bin is aufs? what did you edit there?
• 1501[10:20:10] <debkad> jmcnaught, but how i can copy link from tty1 to here
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• 1506[10:21:11] <face> I'm getting multiple dhclient instances running at the same time when I do multiple ifup eth0. I'm on Jessie 8.3
• 1507[10:21:14] <ansyeblya> no, I was actually doing everything fast cuz sort of irritated. there was a long path through docker images I believe and it was seemingly linking its binary from one of these images into my /usr/sbin .. wtf ?
• 1508[10:21:27] <ansyeblya> anyways I just insta rfm -rf'ed ssh-agent entries on sight
• 1509[10:22:36] <ansyeblya> now everything works perfectly fine, peace is back
• 1510[10:22:49] <debkad> jmcnaught, you got the link?
• 1511[10:22:59] <erm3nda> debkad, using ctrl+alt+c to copy. same than system but adding alt key too
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• 1513[10:23:11] <jmcnaught> ansyeblya: ahh.. docker. were you executing the ssh client from inside the docker container? also if by entries you mean you deleted /usr/bin/ssh-agent that isn't a very good thing to do
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• 1515[10:23:13] <debkad> I used /exec
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• 1518[10:23:22] <debkad> /exec apt-cache policy libxres1 | pastebinit
• 1519[10:23:31] <debkad> replaced-url
• 1520[10:23:38] <ansyeblya> yea I removed /usr/bin/ssh-agent long ago
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• 1522[10:23:50] <ansyeblya> and I was executing my local ssh-client
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• 1524[10:23:53] <erm3nda> said copy a link, not bump stdout :D
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• 1526[10:24:06] <debkad> erm3nda, from tty1 ?
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• 1529[10:24:17] <erm3nda> hum, let me try, but... yes
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• 1531[10:24:43] * debkad wonder how to select to be able to copy
• 1532[10:24:59] <landoc1> ansyeblya, deleting specific files from packages is not a good idea. might give you unforeseen problems if something else depends on it.
• 1533[10:25:03] <jmcnaught> ansyeblya: deleting files managed by apt is just going to result in them being reinstalled when the package gets updated at some point.
• 1534[10:25:05] <erm3nda> ohljo, yes, don't listen to me :) i don't know howto select it
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• 1537[10:25:18] <debkad> haha ^^
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• 1539[10:25:22] <ansyeblya> ye, ok. what would you advise ?
• 1540[10:25:27] <erm3nda> usually you can out to a user variable
• 1541[10:25:36] <erm3nda> then catch it from desktop xterm
• 1542[10:25:39] <ansyeblya> I'm not going to update to deb9 then or in any other way openssh-client ;)
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• 1544[10:25:48] <jmcnaught> ansyeblya: why was the ssh client in the container being used anyways? i don't really understand your original problem
• 1545[10:25:51] <ansyeblya> im pertty happy with deb8
• 1546[10:25:58] <ansyeblya> ye, me neither
• 1547[10:25:59] <debkad> erm3nda, nothing possible from desktop
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• 1549[10:26:09] <ansyeblya> had to debug it to answer ypour questoin but I just cleaned up and now everything is fine
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• 1553[10:26:22] <ansyeblya> ssh-agent is a virus
• 1554[10:26:24] <ansyeblya> ;)
• 1555[10:26:24] <landoc1> ansyeblya, ssh-agent exists without problem on most machines. something had to be misconfigured to start giving you problems.
• 1556[10:26:30] <ansyeblya> probably
• 1557[10:26:33] <jmcnaught> debkad: that was just my example command. start using pastebint with teh commands you get errors for
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• 1559[10:26:36] <debkad> ansyeblya, agreed
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• 1562[10:26:52] <ansyeblya> I couldnt google for how to even remove it
• 1563[10:26:56] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell debkad about localized errors
• 1564[10:26:59] <ansyeblya> in several languages over several search engines
• 1565[10:27:10] <ansyeblya> "googled" I mean
• 1566[10:27:15] <landoc1> ansyeblya, i don't know what you did to configure it, but best would be to retrace your steps and "unmisconfigure" it
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• 1571[10:27:17] <jmcnaught> debkad: also see the message from the dpkg bot.
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• 1575[10:27:30] <erm3nda> soulz, write to a file :) or pastebinit, like you already did
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• 1581[10:28:41] <debkad> ** Message: x-terminal-emulator has very limited support, consider choose another terminal
• 1582[10:28:41] <debkad> Segmentation fault
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• 1588[10:29:04] <debkad> when i launch lxpanel ^
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• 1590[10:29:13] <jmcnaught> ansyeblya: deleting ssh-agent sounds like a bad fix for a problem honestly. also "debian" docker images are often far from standard debian.
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• 1593[10:29:57] <debkad> what i can do now
• 1594[10:30:23] <jmcnaught> debkad: you said you got errors from trying to reinstall that libxres1 package? do it again with pastebinit
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• 1596[10:30:55] <debkad> jmcnaught, how i can send the link here
• 1597[10:31:23] <ansyeblya> ye, ok. I run debian on bare metal desktop. it has docker and several images for testing purposes locally. so what i believe was happening .. somehow upon relogin it was linking ..../aufs/.../ssh-agent into my /usr/bin and starting it ?? since I removed old ssh-agent long time ago and now since I removed there "aufs entries" everything is also fine and nothing starts anylonger. what other explanation could there be?
• 1598[10:31:26] <debkad> with /exec is fine?
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• 1600[10:32:03] <debkad> it will not work there is su -c
• 1601[10:32:12] <jmcnaught> debkad: can you look for the link in the recent posts on replaced-url
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• 1603[10:32:25] <jmcnaught> debkad: not sure what you mean "/exec"
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• 1606[10:32:49] <debkad> jmcnaught, i launched hexchat from tty1 by: "DISPLAY=:0 hexchat"
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• 1616[10:34:09] <jmcnaught> ansyeblya: the host OS had /bin mounted as aufs?
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• 1620[10:34:26] <debkad> jmcnaught, nothing happen when i click the link
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• 1626[10:35:07] <jmcnaught> debkad: then write down the number part of the URL, come back to IRC, and type in replaced-url
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• 1630[10:35:17] <ansyeblya> nope
• 1631[10:35:26] <ansyeblya> xfs
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• 1638[10:36:50] <jmcnaught> ansyeblya: i've only used docker a couple of times, but i'm assuming you only deleted ssh-agent from the containers, not the host. were you doing something that would involve SSH agent forwarding and the containers?
• 1639[10:37:09] <ansyeblya> its exactly a reverse of what you said
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• 1641[10:37:22] <ansyeblya> I hardly believe so(about forwarding)
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• 1643[10:37:37] <ansyeblya> I had local agent removed and only found couple ones under docker images
• 1644[10:37:47] <debkad> jmcnaught, 422023
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• 1649[10:38:59] <ansyeblya> I know it makes no sense. would need to reproduce
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• 1651[10:39:17] <ansyeblya> there must be something else, but we would only guess by now. maybe can do it later
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• 1654[10:39:46] <debkad> hi ansyeblya
• 1655[10:40:00] <ansyeblya> but the solution as a matter of fact was: "to remove ssh-agent instances under ../aufs/docker-image-path/usr/bin/ssh-agent"
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• 1657[10:40:16] <debkad> ah
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• 1660[10:40:19] <ansyeblya> and then after restart agent did not get launched, which I'm pretty satisfied with
• 1661[10:40:25] <ansyeblya> hi
• 1662[10:40:30] <debkad> \o/
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• 1666[10:40:50] <hanshenrik> how can i access the clipboard data in debian? like in windows, i can use the GetClipboardData() WinAPI
• 1667[10:41:06] <debkad> xclip i guess
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• 1669[10:41:30] <grawity> hanshenrik: by accessing one of X11 "selections"
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• 1671[10:41:52] <grawity> hanshenrik: either "CLIPBOARD" (for the Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V thing) or "PRIMARY" (for the middle-click paste one)
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• 1673[10:42:24] <jmcnaught> ansyeblya: there must be something else messed up if your host OS was using the ssh-agent in docker images, but oh well.
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• 1675[10:42:35] <ansyeblya> ye
• 1676[10:42:56] <hanshenrik> debkad and grawity , thanks
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• 1681[10:44:20] <erm3nda> debkad, found it, using sudo cat /dev/svc1 you can pass to any other terminal that text
• 1682[10:44:36] <erm3nda> I've tried and works
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• 1684[10:45:07] <erm3nda> debkad, here it is replaced-url
• 1685[10:45:10] <erm3nda> im gone, see you
• 1686[10:45:36] <jmcnaught> debkad: re: your paste at replaced-url
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• 1690[10:46:13] <debkad> jmcnaught, any news?
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• 1693[10:46:31] <jmcnaught> debkad: were there errors during your installation?
• 1694[10:46:45] <debkad> jmcnaught, about libsdl
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• 1697[10:47:09] <debkad> most apps when i try to lauch from tty1 say segfault
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• 1699[10:47:31] <jmcnaught> debkad: line 33 of replaced-url
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• 1706[10:49:04] <jmcnaught> debkad: it's also suspicious why that's in /usr instead of /lib. are you mounting /usr from another distro?
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• 1709[10:50:46] <jmcnaught> oh i guess that /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so might come from libc6-dev:i386
• 1710[10:51:15] <debkad> jmcnaught, no idea may be the way i did to make it boot from grub
• 1711[10:51:32] <aerth> try umount /usr
• 1712[10:51:41] <aerth> ?
• 1713[10:51:48] <jmcnaught> or try "mount | pastebinit" first
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• 1716[10:52:24] <debkad> i tryed now: /sbin/ldconfig.real /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/* and it show libc.so and libSDL_image.so and libasound.so if i remeber right
• 1717[10:53:04] <mirazi_heket> hello, is it possible, if /etc/sudoers is set to send mails if executing sudo, to put hostname (and if its possible IP address) in topic? i already managed to change topic of email
• 1718[10:53:05] <debkad> 422076
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• 1720[10:53:38] <jmcnaught> debkad: it would help if you typed the replaced-url
• 1721[10:53:45] <debkad> replaced-url
• 1722[10:53:54] <debkad> ok :)
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• 1728[10:56:23] <jmcnaught> debkad: more people are likely to check your paste if it's a proper URL. anyways /usr is not a separate mount. i don't know what's wrong, i'd probably try installing debsums and use it to try and find packages that are corrupt. I still don't understand how you "installed with grub", but if there were errors during the debootstrap or debian-installer those would be pretty relevant at this point
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• 1732[10:57:46] <debkad> ok thank you jmcnaught for your help and time :)
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• 1738[10:59:10] <jmcnaught> debkad: bienvenue. any information you can provide about how you installed and if there were errors will be helpful. if you don't remember the errors, maybe try reinstalling and take notes
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• 1743[11:06:54] <debkad> jmcnaught, ok i will, my guess is the sata cable and/or the hdd ( have I/O problem time to time ) and may be too the content of the grub i have
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• 1747[11:08:54] <debkad> which package have libasound.so ?
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• 1756[11:09:42] <jmcnaught> debkad: use "dpkg -S libasound.so"
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• 1798[11:15:15] <debkad> thank you, i solved many ELF header with that command
• 1799[11:15:26] <debkad> i will try to logout to see
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• 1806[11:17:02] <debkad> jmcnaught, thanks again, i have a panel now
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• 1809[11:17:41] <debkad> jmcnaught, you said my /usr is mounted as /lib ?
• 1810[11:17:55] <jmcnaught> debkad: no
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• 1812[11:18:15] <debkad> ok
• 1813[11:18:38] <jmcnaught> debkad: i was curious why you had problems with a libc6.so in /usr/lib/... but that probably came from a libc6-dev package
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• 1815[11:19:16] <debkad> jmcnaught, yes that helped me by reinstalling it when you say that
• 1816[11:19:57] <jmcnaught> debkad: hopefully you get to the root of the problem. if you have lots of IO errors i hope that you have backups :)
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• 1818[11:20:30] <debkad> lol yeah you right, hopefully it is a fresh install :)
• 1819[11:20:59] <debkad> I'm thinking to make a separate home folder
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• 1823[11:26:34] <ewew> Hi. My system keeps checking root fs after change of time due to Day light savings. How to correct this ? Till the change of time i had hw clock set to --localtime. Could this by the cause ? Thank You for help.
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• 1890[11:50:45] <mirazi_heket> Defaults mailsub="Sudo execution on %h"
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• 1921[12:13:49] <debkad> hello, it's me again, i seen that sudo is not useful in debian, it say that i'm not in sudoers
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• 1925[12:15:57] <Nimms> debkad, usermod -aG sudo your_user
• 1926[12:16:01] <Nimms> debkad, then relogin.
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• 1928[12:16:19] <debkad> thank you Nimms
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• 1934[12:17:15] <MaBunny> hey guys
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• 1938[12:18:45] <debkad> Nimms, awesome, worked as expected, why it was not added from the install?
• 1939[12:19:10] <TomTomTosch> debkad, how should the install know what users to add?
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• 1941[12:19:39] <debkad> TomTomTosch, when the user enter his username?
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• 1943[12:20:00] <TomTomTosch> my username is root if i install sudo.
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• 1945[12:20:30] <Nimms> debkad, what if you don't want that user to use sudo? And it's not installed by default anyway.
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• 1947[12:20:45] <debkad> TomTomTosch, when i install it ask me for my username and password and the root password
• 1948[12:21:03] <debkad> Nimms, I'm the only one use this machine
• 1949[12:21:23] <Nimms> debkad, Debian installer can't read your mind, you know.
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• 1954[12:22:00] <debkad> Nimms, agreed, but it is possible that the installer ask me if i want to be a sudo user or not
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• 1961[12:25:02] <debkad> anyway it is just my opinion, may be the devs know why it is like that
• 1962[12:25:03] <TomTomTosch> debkad, you are expected to read the docs when using software. the installation usually does not do thing that might be unexpected or aligned with one specific usecase. so what might be comfortable for you might be a security risc for other.
• 1963[12:25:25] <TomTomTosch> s/risc/risk
• 1964[12:25:40] <debkad> TomTomTosch, understood thanks
• 1965[12:26:32] <themill> As the installer told you at the time, if you don't enter a root password, then the user is added to the sudo group
• 1966[12:27:23] <debkad> themill, ah that sound cool didn't know about it, thank you man
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• 1973[12:33:23] <TomTomTosch> ah, in the debian-installer. i was thinking in terms of installing it through apt.
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• 1976[12:34:33] <waterCreature> hi, i am trying to use raspberry pi 3 with raspbian and trying to set up wifi,
• 1977[12:34:53] <waterCreature> i do not have a lcd, so I am using mobaxterm
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• 1979[12:35:14] <waterCreature> so basically, I can login to raspbain, but no internet connection.
• 1980[12:35:28] <TomTomTosch> waterCreature, you will have better chances asking #raspbian. x)
• 1981[12:35:42] <waterCreature> Thanks
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• 1983[12:37:07] <debkad> raspberry can boot linux?
• 1984[12:37:44] <jamesc> can the TIMEOUT(absolute) be updated within an active call and still take effect, if for example it was made longer?
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• 1999[12:43:36] <waterCreature> no one is replying from raspbian,
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• 2009[12:48:32] <cvr-> waterCreature: so the pi is connected to the wifi network? but no internet access?
• 2010[12:48:55] <waterCreature> no, not connected to wifi network.
• 2011[12:49:07] <waterCreature> It's connected to my laptop through ethernet cable.
• 2012[12:49:20] <waterCreature> I can edit the interfaces. But no idea what to put
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• 2014[12:50:18] <cvr-> tried this replaced-url
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• 2019[12:53:37] <tord> Hi there
• 2020[12:53:51] <tord> I have a problem concerning my root, probably its clogged
• 2021[12:54:17] <tord> replaced-url
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• 2023[12:54:54] <jelly-home> tord: so it is. do an "apt-get clean" for a start
• 2024[12:55:09] <tord> yes, good point
• 2025[12:55:39] <jelly-home> then boot into rescue mode and shrink your /home a bit
• 2026[12:55:49] <tord> heh well, 0.3 gig more now
• 2027[12:56:14] <tord> yes, so, I'm using LVM
• 2028[12:56:37] <tord> and I don't really have experience with it, do you think shrinking in rescue mode will work?
• 2029[12:56:42] <tord> and if so, how
• 2030[12:56:46] <jelly-home> if you can umount /home, yes
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• 2032[12:57:12] <ewew> I would check the contents of /var/log.
• 2033[12:57:32] <tord> hmm could you give me some kind of guidance? I'd look up unline but xsession won't start and I'm not really versed with w3c
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• 2039[12:58:40] <jelly-home> tord: there's a couple steps, umount /home, fsck -Cf /dev/murderwood/vg-home, resize2fs /dev/murderwood/vg-home 300G and lvresize -L300G /dev/murderwood/vg-home
• 2040[12:58:42] <debkad> unmount /home i guess
• 2041[12:59:20] <tord> that's more then I could ask for, thanks jelly-home
• 2042[12:59:31] <waterCreature> cvr- now ethernet not connecting at all
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• 2044[13:00:14] <waterCreature> oh , still works from putty.
• 2045[13:00:23] <waterCreature> not through mobaxterm though.
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• 2047[13:00:53] <cvr-> waterCreature: so did you get connected to the wifi?
• 2048[13:01:02] <waterCreature> i think no
• 2049[13:01:09] <waterCreature> cannot ping google.com
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• 2052[13:01:54] <waterCreature> and school is using something different, sort of.
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• 2054[13:02:04] <waterCreature> like for ubuntu, I had to remove system-ca=true line
• 2055[13:02:17] <waterCreature> and dont rmb if i had the option to key in my student id.
• 2056[13:02:21] <waterCreature> now there's no such option,
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• 2058[13:02:32] <waterCreature> just edit in leafpad and save
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• 2063[13:03:11] <waterCreature> oh great. leafpad not sudo mode.
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• 2122[13:22:57] <newbsduser> hello, is there an easy way to duplicate / replay radius traffic to different freeradius hosts? i dont want to do failover or load-balance. i want to copy the same radius messages to different freeradius hosts... (udp 1812, 1813)
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• 2157[13:37:24] <debkad> the content of /etc/init.d/lirc is wrong, i changed it manually to have it work
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• 2160[13:40:18] <debkad> can i install those package from replaced-url
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• 2166[13:41:51] <tord> jelly-home you're there?
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• 2168[13:42:10] <tord> I did what you instructed me to, apparently it worked
• 2169[13:42:43] <MaBunny> guys when i type su and then type apt-get install it says could not get a lock
• 2170[13:42:47] <tord> so, should I just do the same procedure at /dev/.../root
• 2171[13:43:14] <tord> MaBunny maybe some other program is using root
• 2172[13:43:17] <bazhang> MaBunny, more than one apt instance is not allowed
• 2173[13:43:19] <debkad> MaBunny, because something run it in background
• 2174[13:43:20] <MaBunny> it means tht another proc is withholding it,so how can i "free" it
• 2175[13:43:34] <MaBunny> ok
• 2176[13:43:51] <MaBunny> so i hav to check for the other programs who are on root?
• 2177[13:44:01] <debkad> stop it
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• 2179[13:44:12] <debkad> an update or something like that
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• 2181[13:44:28] <MaBunny> ok
• 2182[13:44:37] <debkad> may be ps aux | grep apt or ps aux | grep synaptic ..etc
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• 2192[13:47:04] <MaBunny> there is no apt/synaptic in my system monitor
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• 2197[13:48:24] <melt> E: Release file expired, ignoring replaced-url
• 2198[13:50:16] <themill> melt: squeeze is not a supported release
• 2199[13:50:21] <Brigo> metaKin, right.
• 2200[13:52:03] <melt> themill: okay, so "theres no more squeeze backports? YES/no" please answer the question
• 2201[13:52:28] <melt> "What happened 8d 23h ago"
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• 2206[13:54:16] <melt> themill: come on you sounded so smart with your smart answer!
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• 2212[13:56:28] <sypher> melt: You have your answer. themill's answer was correct.
• 2213[13:56:39] <melt> themill was asked to clarify his answer
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• 2216[13:57:06] <melt> why you guys gotta always act like little bitches? i asked my question properly and with the correct supporting information, and in proper english
• 2217[13:57:11] <melt> fucking cunts
• 2218[13:57:12] <bezaban> melt: if you look at that file, the release file is Valid-Until: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 09:02:33 UTC. It can possibly be ignored if you wish to continue running a system that doesn't get security updates
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• 2220[13:57:21] <melt> there we go
• 2221[13:57:22] <bezaban> oh. I regret being helpful now
• 2222[13:57:23] <melt> bezaban: thank you
• 2223[13:57:52] <melt> no, bezaban i provide irc support in like a dozen channels. i never act like that to users
• 2224[13:58:01] <sypher> melt: I bet you make lots of friends, if that's how you "ask" for clarification. Self-entitled little punk.
• 2225[13:58:27] <melt> "not supported" is the copout brushoff
• 2226[13:58:37] <sypher> bezaban: Thank you, though, I've learned something today about Release file structures. :)
• 2227[13:58:46] <sypher> bezaban: I've never had a reason to look.
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• 2229[13:59:23] <melt> bezaban: we originally added squeeze-backports to install some updated wireless drivers. is this no longer available because squeeze is EOL and all the backports are now part of squeeze or jessie?
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• 2232[13:59:48] <melt> i might as well understand the versioning system because it looks like this happens with each major release
• 2233[14:00:03] <bezaban> poked around a few other mirrors, most (of the ones I've checked) have removed squeeze entirely
• 2234[14:00:32] <melt> okay so it's going EOL and i should be working harder on moving the platform to jessie as i have been doing.
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• 2236[14:00:42] <bezaban> yeah, EOL last month
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• 2239[14:00:58] <melt> i'm sure as soon as i get everything working on jessie then i will have to do it all over again on stretch. :)
• 2240[14:00:59] <JyZyXEL> geez, i wonder what the upgrade path will be like from Plasma 4 to Plasma 5 :p
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• 2243[14:02:03] <JyZyXEL> i wish debian had an easy way of run testing in lxc with a full desktop environment
• 2244[14:02:43] <JyZyXEL> that way normal users could participate on testing the testing
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• 2246[14:03:35] <melt> i appreciate your help bezaban.... that was my suspicion but i wanted to make sure i provided the correct and fullest answer to my customer.
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• 2249[14:03:55] <bezaban> np
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• 2252[14:05:53] <tord> guys got a problem with my filesystem, maybe you can help
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• 2254[14:06:11] <tord> apparently my root is clogged and I resized the home partition
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• 2257[14:06:23] <tord> I'm using LVM but have 0 experience with it
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• 2260[14:06:57] <bezaban> tord: resizing root is a little tricky. You need to boot off a different medium (usb/cdrom/network) to be able to unmount it and resize it.
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• 2262[14:07:10] <bezaban> might be possible online, but I've not tried
• 2263[14:07:16] <sypher> tord: What is your exact scenario? Can you pastebin the output of "lvs," "pvs," "vgs," "df -h"?
• 2264[14:07:17] <tord> So it might not work with rescue mode?
• 2265[14:07:22] <sypher> bezaban: You can grow it online. Can't shrink it.
• 2266[14:07:33] <bezaban> sypher: ah yes, sounds right
• 2267[14:07:44] <tord> sypher a secund
• 2268[14:08:56] <tord> replaced-url
• 2269[14:09:05] <tord> Thats after I resized home to 300
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• 2280[14:13:28] <Ulrar> Hi, I have a few debian machines on which I just installed libc6-dev, but it didn't create the files in /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/
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• 2282[14:13:37] <Ulrar> Any idea why that would be, or what I can do to correct that /
• 2283[14:13:39] <Ulrar> ?
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• 2286[14:14:24] <themill> melt: it may surprise you that some of us aren't waiting on your next message. There's a chance we might even step away from the keyboard. There's no excuse for that sort of self-righteous crap or that language.
• 2287[14:15:20] <themill> Ulrar: what architecture do you have there? (dpkg --print-architecture)
• 2288[14:15:21] <melt> themill: imagine a mechanic telling you "it wont start because its not supported" gee t hanks
• 2289[14:15:25] <sypher> tord: Can you pastebin the output of "vgs," please?
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• 2291[14:15:32] <Ulrar> themill: amd64
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• 2293[14:15:47] <themill> Ulrar: and which release of debian?
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• 2295[14:15:52] <no_gravity> In a fresh debian + apache install, where are ther html files these days? Directly in /var/replaced-url
• 2296[14:15:58] <Ulrar> themill: It's a jessie, installed last week
• 2297[14:16:09] <Ulrar> no_gravity: /var/replaced-url
• 2298[14:16:10] <debkad> nice xdotool is installed by default
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• 2300[14:16:29] <no_gravity> Ulrar: thanks!
• 2301[14:16:39] <themill> Ulrar: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy libc6-dev" for me?
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• 2303[14:17:03] <tord> sypher replaced-url
• 2304[14:17:24] <Ulrar> themill: replaced-url
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• 2307[14:18:18] <sypher> tord: Oh, easy. How much extra space do you want on root?
• 2308[14:18:40] <tord> sypher Well, i opted for 20, just to prevent it from clogging again soon
• 2309[14:18:53] <themill> Ulrar: that package definitely includes lots in that directory.
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• 2311[14:19:04] <Ulrar> Yeah, it should
• 2312[14:19:18] <Ulrar> ls: cannot access /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/: No such file or directory
• 2313[14:19:21] <tord> sypher once I now know the procedure, I can change it anytime
• 2314[14:19:26] <tord> If that's my issue at all
• 2315[14:20:34] <sypher> tord: Depending on your filesystem, you will not be able to shrink it, so be aware.
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• 2317[14:20:49] <themill> Ulrar: what does "aptitude reinstall libc6-dev" do?
• 2318[14:20:52] <Walakea> why is HP so friendly towards Debian?
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• 2320[14:21:02] <Ulrar> themill: Yeah, just thought about that, it works
• 2321[14:21:12] <Ulrar> Forgot I didn't have to purge to reinstall ..
• 2322[14:21:15] <sypher> tord: last thing, can you show me the output of "vgs"?
• 2323[14:21:22] <Ulrar> themill: Well thanks a lot !
• 2324[14:21:24] <sypher> tord: I just want to get the command right.
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• 2326[14:21:38] <themill> Ulrar: so your next question is going to be why the files went missing :)
• 2327[14:21:41] <sypher> tord: (pastebin again)
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• 2329[14:22:05] <Ulrar> themill: My backup must have been corrupted, I just restored that machine from the backups
• 2330[14:22:08] <tord> uh didnt I do that already, you want a new one ? :D
• 2331[14:22:20] <Ulrar> Don't feel that good about it now, for sure :)
• 2332[14:22:33] <sypher> tord: DOH. "lvs" :P
• 2333[14:22:33] <tord> sypher replaced-url
• 2334[14:22:33] <themill> Ulrar: ahh... are you trying to exclude /sys from your backups?
• 2335[14:22:39] <tord> k
• 2336[14:22:45] <sypher> tord: My bad.
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• 2338[14:22:52] <themill> Ulrar: or more precisely, are you accidentally excluding that path as well as /sys
• 2339[14:23:35] <Ulrar> themill: Oh, that's exactly what it is
• 2340[14:23:45] <Ulrar> sys/ is in the exclude for rsync
• 2341[14:23:47] <tord> sypher no problem at all, replaced-url
• 2342[14:23:57] <Ulrar> Surprised we never had the problem before
• 2343[14:24:15] <sypher> tord: lvextend -L+20G -r murderwood-vg/root
• 2344[14:24:28] <sypher> tord: Extends the root LV by 20GB, and resizes the underlying filesystem to use it.
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• 2346[14:24:39] <themill> Ulrar: at least you know the possible extent of the issue
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• 2348[14:25:18] <Ulrar> themill: Yep ! Should correct that this afternoon, before the next backups are made
• 2349[14:25:20] <tord> sypher k den, probably in rescue mode right
• 2350[14:25:23] <Ulrar> Thanks a lot for the help themill
• 2351[14:25:38] <sypher> tord: Nah, you can do that on a live system.
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• 2353[14:25:43] <themill> np
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• 2355[14:25:50] <sypher> tord: Live resizes are fine, if you're extending the filesystem. Shrink, not so much.
• 2356[14:26:04] <sypher> (depends on the specific filesystem, of course)
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• 2359[14:27:28] <tord> sypher well thanks, I'll try that out and let you know
• 2360[14:27:40] <jelly-home> tord: ah, I see you shrunk home successfully
• 2361[14:27:50] <tord> jelly-home yes, thanks
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• 2370[14:28:26] <jelly-home> tord: extending/growing can be done on the fly without any unmounting
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• 2374[14:29:16] <tord> jelly-home I guess thats because you can't break anything on that part by growing it? :D
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• 2376[14:29:35] <jelly-home> tord: also because that part of the code is used much much more often
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• 2378[14:30:33] <jelly-home> tord: oh, I see lvextend now has --resizefs, so you can do both with one command
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• 2380[14:30:50] <tord> jelly-home what do you mean
• 2381[14:30:54] <Toaster_Strudel> I put the firmware in the lib\firmware directory and rebooted, I also tried adding the non-free repo to the deb sources list, and still no luck getting my wifi working. Its detecting something because when I turn the wifi switch "off" it shows airplane mode. What should I do?
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• 2384[14:31:30] <sypher> tord: He's referring to the "-r" portion of the command I gave you.
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• 2388[14:32:08] <tord> gonna man that thing later to check it in detail
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• 2391[14:34:30] <karlpinc> tord: Always a good idea to do that _before_ running the command. Just saying.
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• 2393[14:35:03] <tord> Thanks captain obvious
• 2394[14:35:03] <tord> lol
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• 2397[14:35:11] <tord> ;]
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• 2402[14:37:06] <tord> ok sypher / jelly-home it went perfect, thanks for your time and dedication
• 2403[14:37:17] <tord> gotta check if xsession runs again
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• 2405[14:38:38] <Toaster_Strudel> FOUND IT!
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• 2409[14:39:35] <mezo> hmm, i asked yesterday about my ping spikes when using wifi. now i noticed the ping spikes are exactly every 120sec. so i assume its something like background scanning which cause this problems?
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• 2419[14:44:27] <tord> sypher / jelly-home any of you two guys have experience in virtualization? aka using qemu/kvm/virt
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• 2424[14:46:41] <sirjohndfox> how do i authenticate my nick?
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• 2427[14:47:06] <ultraswainy> type /msg nickserv password email
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• 2429[14:47:19] <sirjohndfox> thanks...
• 2430[14:47:29] <TheKernelMan> Wow
• 2431[14:47:42] <jelly-home> tord: kvm? not really
• 2432[14:48:48] <sirjohndfox> /msg nickserv register johnjohn john@burningdeck.org
• 2433[14:48:58] <tord> lol
• 2434[14:48:59] <sirjohndfox> didnt work... :)
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• 2436[14:49:22] <sirjohndfox> been years sin i've used irc... sorry guys
• 2437[14:49:45] <TheKernelMan> Debian 8 "Jessie"
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• 2439[14:49:55] <jelly-home> sirjohndfox: be careful not to type potentially sensitive data into the public channel, and probably ask in #freenode channel
• 2440[14:50:07] <sirjohndfox> cheers...
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• 2442[14:50:36] <sirjohndfox> i got lucky then.. they werent my credentials... :) Cheers guys...
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• 2444[14:51:41] <tord> jelly-home well, now that the root has enough size, I can probably experiment with kvm. Thanks again
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• 2466[14:57:33] <sypher> tord: Cheers. :)
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• 2476[15:01:29] * debkad trying to find where was the last chrome deb puted in my pc, the webpage have no 32 bit
• 2477[15:01:41] <TheKernelMan> Chrome?
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• 2480[15:01:57] <TheKernelMan> IceWeasel?
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• 2482[15:02:23] <debkad> no chrome i have iceweasel already
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• 2484[15:02:36] <TheKernelMan> You want to download and install chrome?
• 2485[15:02:42] <debkad> yeah
• 2486[15:02:46] <TheKernelMan> Uh
• 2487[15:03:05] <TheKernelMan> Go to terminal
• 2488[15:03:16] <debkad> ok
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• 2490[15:03:32] <TheKernelMan> and type: sudo apt-get install chromium
• 2491[15:03:38] <debkad> no
• 2492[15:03:47] <debkad> chrome not chromium
• 2493[15:04:06] <TheKernelMan> ok, you have chrome.deb?
• 2494[15:04:10] <TheKernelMan> Downloaded
• 2495[15:04:14] <debkad> i think yes
• 2496[15:04:14] <jelly-home> debkad: there is no 32bit build for Google Chrome any more
• 2497[15:04:33] <debkad> jelly-home, i know for that i search it in my hdd
• 2498[15:04:38] <TheKernelMan> Open Terminal And: cd (Directory of Downloaded Chrome.deb)
• 2499[15:04:50] <TheKernelMan> dpkg -i (.deb package)
• 2500[15:04:50] * dpkg installs (.deb package) into thekernelman's head with a bone saw and a few screws
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• 2502[15:05:12] <jelly-home> debkad: you can wing it if your machine is 64bit-capable, and you install and and boot into linux-image-amd64 and enable amd64 as multiarch
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• 2507[15:05:38] <jelly-home> but otherwise you probably don't want to run an outdated browser
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• 2509[15:05:48] <debkad> jelly-home, my machine is old :/, it can support 64 if i can change the cpu
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• 2511[15:06:05] <jelly-home> out of luck then
• 2512[15:06:15] <debkad> yeah
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• 2514[15:06:38] <jelly-home> what do you need chrome for?
• 2515[15:06:48] <debkad> latest flash
• 2516[15:06:50] <TheKernelMan> Browsing, Hacking, ???
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• 2518[15:06:57] <debkad> ^
• 2519[15:07:01] <jelly-home> debkad: right, no more 32bit flash for you.
• 2520[15:07:21] <debkad> jelly-home, up to 19 is good
• 2521[15:07:37] <debkad> firefox and others are hanging on 11
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• 2526[15:08:23] <jelly-home> right, except the 32bit 19.x or 20.x gets no more security patches at all
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• 2535[15:10:39] <debkad> yes i know
• 2536[15:10:49] <jelly-home> debkad: locate /google-chrome-stable_
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• 2542[15:11:35] <debkad> found it in the home folder of the mint distro
• 2543[15:11:40] <debkad> thank you
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• 2545[15:11:51] <jelly-home> ,v chromium
• 2546[15:11:52] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 47.0.2526.80-1~deb8u1; stretch: 49.0.2623.87-1; jessie-security: 49.0.2623.108-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 49.0.2623.108-1~deb8u1; sid: 49.0.2623.108-1
• 2547[15:12:05] <debkad> chromium is not good
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• 2550[15:12:14] <TheKernelMan> Debkad
• 2551[15:12:22] <TheKernelMan> Locate your chrome .deb package
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• 2553[15:12:37] <jelly-home> debkad: you should at least run latest chromium and plug chrome's libpepflashplayer.so into it
• 2554[15:12:37] <debkad> I never got it working for less then 5 min
• 2555[15:12:55] <jelly-home> TheKernelMan: we already solved that.
• 2556[15:12:59] <debkad> always aie aie aie message
• 2557[15:13:21] <TheKernelMan> Ok
• 2558[15:13:25] <debkad> replaced-url
• 2559[15:13:33] <debkad> always that ^
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• 2563[15:15:19] <debkad> of course i will prefer open source like chromium if i can got it working but never happen on all distro i used, may be intel driver are not friend with chromium no idea though
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• 2567[15:15:37] <TheKernelMan> Firefox is open source :D
• 2568[15:15:43] <debkad> slow
• 2569[15:15:48] <TheKernelMan> ok
• 2570[15:16:25] <debkad> slow browser + slow internet = hell :D
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• 2573[15:16:47] <DeaDSouL> Hi, I wrote a small app, how can I add it to debian repository ?
• 2574[15:17:05] <debkad> cool DeaDSouL
• 2575[15:17:18] <TheKernelMan> Huh
• 2576[15:17:22] <TheKernelMan> Go to sources.list
• 2577[15:17:33] <TheKernelMan> gedit as root
• 2578[15:17:37] <TheKernelMan> and type him
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• 2580[15:17:42] <debkad> o_o
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• 2582[15:17:55] <debkad> I think he mean to make it in the repo
• 2583[15:18:01] <TheKernelMan> /etc/apt/sources.list
• 2584[15:18:03] <debkad> like ppa's things i guess
• 2585[15:18:04] <zzM0rph3us> Yes but not enough, is replaced by iceweasel
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• 2587[15:18:11] <jelly-home> TheKernelMan: what are you talking about?
• 2588[15:18:14] <DeaDSouL> debkad: yes that's what i meant
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• 2590[15:18:23] <debkad> :)
• 2591[15:18:38] <jelly-home> dpkg, tell DeaDSouL about own repo
• 2592[15:18:41] <TheKernelMan> I speaking with other sorry
• 2593[15:18:41] <debkad> DeaDSouL, wish you luck
• 2594[15:18:48] <jelly-home> dpkg, tell DeaDSouL about reprepro
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• 2596[15:19:11] <DeaDSouL> debkad: thanks bro
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• 2598[15:19:33] <jelly-home> heh, dpkg is a bot, you can give it a !botsnack
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• 2602[15:20:58] <debkad> jelly is no more at home
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• 2604[15:21:17] <TheKernelMan> Hi, what is the problem
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• 2607[15:21:58] <TheKernelMan> -> dpkg -i (.deb)
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• 2611[15:23:08] <jelly> DeaDSouL: or are you talking about uploading your own app to debian so everyone can use it?
• 2612[15:23:36] <debkad> I think so
• 2613[15:25:15] <DeaDSouL> jelly: yes, this is my first app to public, it's only one file... i want to add it to debian repository, so that anyone can download it and use it... here it is: replaced-url
• 2614[15:26:56] <TheKernelMan> Is a Python Script
• 2615[15:27:17] <jelly> DeaDSouL: ah. If you want to package and maintain it yourself, read /msg dpkg nmg and /msg dpkg mentors
• 2616[15:27:18] <DeaDSouL> TheKernelMan: yes it is
• 2617[15:27:45] <jelly> DeaDSouL: if you want someone else to package it, you can file a
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• 2619[15:27:46] <jelly> !rfp
• 2620[15:27:47] <dpkg> Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See replaced-url
• 2621[15:28:10] <TheKernelMan> Yeah
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• 2624[15:28:55] <debkad> damn segfault again
• 2625[15:29:07] <nnull> DeaDSouL, If you scan without -p, does it simply count and not display duplicates or?
• 2626[15:29:21] <nnull> display the count rather
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• 2628[15:29:30] <TheKernelMan> replaced-url
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• 2630[15:30:54] <debkad> that sound nice to see duplicate files
• 2631[15:31:12] <DeaDSouL> nnull: yes, if you just use the scan without anything else.. it will just show some statistics, while -p will only print the list of duplicates
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• 2634[15:31:46] <nnull> DeaDSouL, nice
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• 2645[15:34:02] <debkad> can't start chrome again always segmentation fault
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• 2653[15:39:27] <debkad> who know about segmentation fault?
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• 2656[15:41:12] <debkad> who don't know? x)
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• 2671[15:48:49] <DeaDSouL> debkad: try to rename the .config/chromium and/or .config/google-chrome, will it work ?
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• 2676[15:49:58] <DeaDSouL> if it did, then i think something went wrong with your conf dir.... if not, i guess it's because of the package upgrade may be
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• 2681[15:52:46] <TheKernelMan> Wow
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• 2684[15:53:25] <debkad> will try thanks DeaDSouL
• 2685[15:53:56] <DeaDSouL> debkad: you welcome bro
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• 2687[15:55:30] <TheKernelMan> Good
• 2688[15:55:51] <debkad> didn't work :/
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• 2690[15:56:18] <TheKernelMan> What Is The Problem Now
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• 2705[15:59:10] <bmomjian> If I in-place upgraded from Squeeze to Jessie, should I have any Sqeeze-labeled packaged installed, e.g. libbind9-60, 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze19. I do see libbind9-90 also installed.
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• 2709[15:59:49] <debkad> TheKernelMan, chrome installed worked for first time but when i closed it and tryed to open it it crashed
• 2710[15:59:59] <TheKernelMan> Oh
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• 2714[16:00:22] <TheKernelMan> Problems Of Chrome
• 2715[16:00:42] <debkad> dependency
• 2716[16:01:06] <TheKernelMan> If you try to reinstall?
• 2717[16:01:08] <jelly> bmomjian: skipping releases is not a supported upgrade path, you're going to have lots of cruft and unforeseen issues
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• 2720[16:01:58] <debkad> I think i found the solution
• 2721[16:02:00] <bmomjian> uh, I didn't really skip; I went to wheezy, then jessie; it all just happened on the same day, but there were lots of reboots in there. is that supported?
• 2722[16:02:08] <TheKernelMan> ok
• 2723[16:02:17] <jelly> bmomjian: yes.
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• 2725[16:02:22] <themill> bmomjian: that would work fine; you should have ended up removing obsolete packages during the upgrade
• 2726[16:02:23] <TheKernelMan> AFK
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• 2728[16:02:55] <bmomjian> I know I followed the upgrade instructions, and I only have about seven of them.
• 2729[16:03:02] <bmomjian> No idea why they are still around.
• 2730[16:03:32] <jelly> TheKernelMan: hi. Please don't announce AFK, use the irc away flag. Also, funny videos and chatter go to #debian-offtopic and not here. Keep this channel for tech support.
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• 2766[16:16:11] <jubo2> how can I tar.gz only the .dotfiles and .dotdirectories in my home dir
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• 2773[16:19:31] <fred1807> how does the boot process reads the fstab file, if the root partition is not mounted yet?
• 2774[16:19:43] <transhuman_> hi is there a linking problem associated with libnl-dev and libvirt (package more recent than in repository for jessie) only libnl packages available are for libnl-3-dev ...is there a fix
• 2775[16:20:40] <thurstylark> fred1807: you can determine filenames to be included by regex in several ways. Check this page for details replaced-url
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• 2777[16:20:57] <fred1807> thurstylark: wot?
• 2778[16:21:44] <thurstylark> fred1807: sorry. That was fro transhuman_
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• 2780[16:22:14] <transhuman_> ok thanks
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• 2782[16:22:27] <phy1729> jubo2: tar czf dots.tgz .*
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• 2784[16:22:41] <Nimms> jubo2, tar czf test.tar.gz `echo .* | sed 's/\.\.\? //g'`
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• 2787[16:23:27] <jubo2> phy1729: that doesn't work
• 2788[16:23:43] <thurstylark> fred1807: to answer your actual question, the bootloader only needs to know where the kernel is, the kernel mounts the root, then reads the fstab.
• 2789[16:23:46] <phy1729> right, most shells are dumb and include . and .. Sorry
• 2790[16:23:48] <jubo2> I see what 'echo .*' prints
• 2791[16:24:03] <thurstylark> wait. fuck. sorry transhuman_ not for you either -_-
• 2792[16:24:19] <thurstylark> jubo2: you can determine filenames to be included by regex in several ways. Check this page for details replaced-url
• 2793[16:24:27] <jubo2> Nimms: Thanks looks right..
• 2794[16:24:38] <jubo2> I run the whole command now
• 2795[16:24:43] <fred1807> thurstylark: so why there is a root partition line on fstab, if the root partition will be already mounted by the time the fstab file avaliable?
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• 2799[16:27:03] <thurstylark> fred1807: because the init system (systemd) remounts based on the entries in fstab: replaced-url
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• 2813[16:32:08] <thurstylark> mainly because in some systems, / is mounted read-only by the bootloader
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• 2816[16:33:01] <jim> so it can be checked
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• 2822[16:34:31] <fred1807> how do I make fsck run without questions (control+D) on boot , in case of errors? "say yes" to everything?
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• 2831[16:35:56] <jelly> !fsckfix
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• 2835[16:36:25] <jim> not sure about that part... but I do know that when fsck says a problem occured, the kernel responds by rebooting
• 2836[16:36:37] <jelly> serves me right for assuming
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• 2838[16:37:09] <tipo> how do I search a directory for files named *.part and delete them? I tried "rm -R *.part" but unfortunately it doesn't do it. do I need to use pipelining? anyone got a suggestion?
• 2839[16:37:11] <jim> jelly, is that on dpkg bot?
• 2840[16:37:22] <tipo> jim, dpkg is real
• 2841[16:37:24] <jelly> fred1807: previously, there used to be a FSCKFIX setting in /etc/default/rcS
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• 2844[16:37:45] <jelly> things are different with systemd
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• 2846[16:38:27] <jelly> and I think that feature is one of the things that didn't get implemented properly
• 2847[16:38:32] <jelly> (or at all)
• 2848[16:38:53] <thurstylark> tipo: take a look at the find manpage. There's an -exec option that would probably work for you.
• 2849[16:38:55] <jelly> fred1807: so, which debian release are you using?
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• 2851[16:39:10] <tipo> thurstylark, sweet. thanks
• 2852[16:39:16] <jim> tipo, and, an infobot on #debian
• 2853[16:39:18] <thurstylark> np
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• 2856[16:40:25] <jelly> tipo: find a-directory-name -name '*.part' -type f
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• 2860[16:40:49] <jelly> tipo: if that lists files you want to wipe, add -delete to the parameters
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• 2863[16:40:54] <eoli3n> hi
• 2864[16:41:04] <jelly> dpkg, tell tipo about using find
• 2865[16:41:06] <eoli3n> how to know the size of a package without dl it with apt ?
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• 2870[16:41:34] <jelly> eoli3n: apt-cache show packagename will tell you Installed-Size among other things
• 2871[16:41:45] <jim> eoli3n, look at its size on the archive?
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• 2875[16:42:14] <jelly> eoli3n: it won't tell you the Installed-Size of other extra dependencies that may have to be installed together with the package
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• 2877[16:42:31] <eoli3n> yep, that's not a pb jelly
• 2878[16:42:36] <eoli3n> that's what i want thx
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• 2896[16:46:46] <djjlynch> hello
• 2897[16:47:11] <djjlynch> i am trying to find out how to implement a software raid 1 on my debian jessie system
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• 2899[16:47:26] <djjlynch> anything that i see on the net is a very lengthy process
• 2900[16:47:32] <djjlynch> andyou have any info on this
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• 2904[16:48:58] <jelly> djjlynch: whether it's lengthy really depends on the size and speed of your member disks. If you're doing it in-place on an existing installation, it's somewhat complex yes.
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• 2906[16:49:30] <djjlynch> yes it is on a pre configured system
• 2907[16:49:44] <djjlynch> i did not know if there was like a scripted process to do this
• 2908[16:49:53] <djjlynch> i am more of a windows server admin than linux
• 2909[16:50:03] <djjlynch> the system has 2 x 500 gb disks in it
• 2910[16:50:12] <djjlynch> os is installed on sda
• 2911[16:50:16] <djjlynch> sdb is empty
• 2912[16:50:24] <jim> probably part of the length and/or complexity is copying stuff to it after it's set up
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• 2914[16:50:39] <jim> like, sda1 or something like that?
• 2915[16:50:40] <djjlynch> i can not get console / kvm access to machine datacenter will not allow / set up for me
• 2916[16:50:48] <djjlynch> so i have to do everythign via ssh
• 2917[16:50:48] <jelly> djjlynch: did you set up LVM or are the filesystems on partitions directly?
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• 2919[16:51:15] <frostschutz> djjlynch, create partitions and mdadm raid on sdb the way you want it... copy your stuff from sda to the sdb-raid... boot off sdb, once everything works as you desire, add sda to the raid
• 2920[16:51:16] <djjlynch> the filesystems are created automatically by there auto deploy process
• 2921[16:51:19] <jelly> djjlynch: pastebin the output of "lsblk" (run as root) if unsure
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• 2923[16:51:36] <djjlynch> ok one sec
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• 2925[16:51:43] <djjlynch> ill paste one sec
• 2926[16:51:50] <frostschutz> djjlynch, if its a fresh install with no custom files on... just reinstall on raid in the first place
• 2927[16:52:01] <jelly> djjlynch: there's no automated, safe script. You better have a live/rescue image to boot in case of issues.
• 2928[16:52:14] <jelly> console access would be better.
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• 2930[16:52:56] <djjlynch> that is my issue. i have not console access to this box
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• 2932[16:53:37] <djjlynch> replaced-url
• 2933[16:53:39] <jelly> djjlynch: and at the same time you're not an experienced linux admin... not in a good place
• 2934[16:53:53] <djjlynch> yes i agree
• 2935[16:53:55] <djjlynch> lol
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• 2938[16:54:13] <djjlynch> i am trying to use this as an interm box while i move
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• 2940[16:54:27] <jelly> at least you have lvm up, so migrating the data won't be much of an issue
• 2941[16:54:31] <djjlynch> hence why i dont want to pay alot for the server hence no kvm / console access
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• 2944[16:55:02] <djjlynch> 25.00 a month dual xeon 5150's 16gb ram 2 x 500 gb disk
• 2945[16:55:16] <djjlynch> anyone have a write up how to do this?
• 2946[16:55:42] <jelly> sadly your root fs has maximum size
• 2947[16:56:06] <djjlynch> meaning
• 2948[16:56:09] <djjlynch> ?
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• 2951[16:56:28] <jelly> having some empty space in LVM would make things easier
• 2952[16:56:47] <djjlynch> can that be resized on the fly like window?s?
• 2953[16:56:50] <djjlynch> windows?
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• 2955[16:57:04] <jelly> djjlynch: it can only be grown on the fly but not shrunk
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• 2958[16:58:05] <djjlynch> ok
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• 2962[16:58:33] <jelly> djjlynch: there's number of possible approaches here and a number of pitfalls each. I'd strongly suggest getting console access or at least being able to boot a rescue system before you dig in
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• 2964[16:58:42] <djjlynch> can anyoune lead me to an article that would be best for me to try and implement. nothing on the server yet so if i mess it up it is not a big issue
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• 2968[16:59:07] <djjlynch> well there is an option for rescue cd under reload os
• 2969[16:59:15] <djjlynch> but not sure if that wipes anything out
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• 2971[16:59:39] <jelly> that would be somewhat opposite of "rescue"
• 2972[16:59:48] <djjlynch> true
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• 2974[17:00:31] <djjlynch> booting from a rescue cd is the best way to do this?
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• 2979[17:02:08] <djjlynch> anyone?
• 2980[17:02:17] <hassoon> what is it
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• 2982[17:02:20] <jelly> djjlynch: no, but there's a good chance your machine to be unbootable at some point and the rescue image gives an option to try fixing that
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• 2984[17:02:50] <jelly> sucks having no console access to see where it stopped
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• 2990[17:04:04] <bigx> hello
• 2991[17:04:15] <bigx> I'd like to create a script that tries to connect me to the wifi specified by my wpa_supplicant conf, and if it fails, create a adhoc network
• 2992[17:04:23] <bigx> but I'm struggling with it
• 2993[17:04:31] <djjlynch> ok
• 2994[17:04:39] <bigx> replaced-url
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• 2997[17:04:46] <bigx> here is what I do for now
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• 2999[17:05:13] <bigx> any idea djjlynch ?
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• 3009[17:07:22] <jhutchins> djjlynch: In your situation it would probably make more sense to just do good backups - which you need anyway - rather than trying to do RAID.
• 3010[17:07:23] <djjlynch> bigx -- im sorry i am not know linux that well. i am here trying to get assistance
• 3011[17:07:28] <djjlynch> sorry i can not help
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• 3013[17:07:55] <djjlynch> ok, what is the best way to backup / restore a linux distro?
• 3014[17:07:56] <bigx> djjlynch, ok, I was thinking you were answering me :) hope you'll find help here
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• 3016[17:08:09] <djjlynch> no problem
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• 3038[17:16:23] <Sloucher> I think my dell xps 13 laptop will do better with the 4.4 kernel which is in testing. Will it show up in backports in a predictable time frame?
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• 3045[17:19:23] <jelly> Sloucher: not "predictable" but it will probably happen
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• 3049[17:21:04] <Sloucher> So, days, weeks, months, or "who knows"?
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• 3057[17:23:34] <fuan> The kernel is pretty much the only software i never hesitated to install from testing or sid, while running stable. Just saying, i wouldn't tell someone to do so (only that it *might* be worth an investigation, if it is possible without problems)
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• 3061[17:23:58] <bigx> does anyone have an idea to this question? replaced-url
• 3062[17:24:45] <jhutchins> ,kernels
• 3063[17:24:47] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.5.0-trunk-686-pae (4.5-1~exp1); sid: 4.4.0-1-686 (4.4.6-1); stretch: 4.4.0-1-686 (4.4.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.4.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.4.6-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.73-2+deb7u3)
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• 3065[17:25:03] <jhutchins> Sloucher: Already there.
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• 3071[17:26:52] <waterCreature> hi, what is the purpose of doing this iface default inet static \n address 10.1.2.20
• 3072[17:27:09] <Azazael> is updating to stretch worth it?
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• 3076[17:27:35] <transhuman_> replaced-url
• 3077[17:27:38] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 3078[17:27:39] <transhuman_> any fix
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• 3080[17:27:42] <TomTomTosch> Azazael, if you want to help debian test the net version, sure. if you want a stable system, no.
• 3081[17:27:51] <transhuman_> its a linking problem not sure what exactly
• 3082[17:27:52] <TomTomTosch> s/net/next/
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• 3085[17:28:57] <transhuman_> the latest netcf from jessie backports still has the same problem
• 3086[17:29:00] <Azazael> TomTomTosch, is stretch really that unstable?
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• 3089[17:30:00] <TomTomTosch> Azazael, it's not the same standard you would expect a debian system to be.
• 3090[17:30:15] <r6ku> Azazael: why do you need testing/unstable?
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• 3092[17:31:18] <Azazael> r6ku, the "main" reason right now is so I can run the ps2 emulator pcsx2, since it doesn't exist for jessie
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• 3097[17:32:42] <Azazael> I know it's kinda of stupid
• 3098[17:32:48] <TomTomTosch> ,checkbackport pcsx2
• 3099[17:32:50] <judd> Backporting package pcsx2 in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual.
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• 3102[17:33:38] <TomTomTosch> strange, i can only see builds for i386.
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• 3105[17:34:41] <Azazael> yes, should use multi arch for 64 bit systems
• 3106[17:34:56] <fuan> Azazael: you would probably want to set up a test environment to see if you can handle testing or unstable or if you can't. Before using it on your main machine(s), assuming you need them reliably.
• 3107[17:35:16] <fuan> either an old computer, a dual boot, an emulator like VBox, etc.
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• 3110[17:35:54] <fuan> that said: for me testing and unstable always have been pretty stable.
• 3111[17:36:03] <Azazael> fuan, thanks will do that using a VM
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• 3117[17:36:33] <fuan> cool. good luck. i guess you will quickly get it sorted.
• 3118[17:36:52] <Azazael> thanks!
• 3119[17:36:58] <fuan> i think you will want to install apt-listbugs
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• 3148[17:46:16] <Pr0metheus> hi, when i for example click on a webpage or delete an e-mail my computer freezes for 10 seconds then it continues normal operation, what i can do to check what the problem is?
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• 3153[17:47:58] <Tom01> no
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• 3155[17:48:00] <Tom01> Idea
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• 3167[17:53:14] <saso1234> ciao
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• 3171[17:54:04] <Sloucher> Woo Hoo! 4.4! Thank you jhutchins
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• 3180[17:57:32] <Pr0metheus> someone sent me a message but i didn't manage to see it, please resend
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• 3183[17:59:21] <tvon> IIRC there is some debian project similar to Nix packaging, or ubuntu snappy, or rpm-ostree, but I forget what it's called. Something about packaging versioning or... something? Lousy question there, but does anyone know what I'm talking about?
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• 3204[18:07:19] <bsoul> Hi all, what's the proper way to require/suggest a change to debian ISO available at cdimage.debian.org? (the ones for openstack)
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• 3224[18:11:06] <crash_> Setting up linux-image-4.4.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 (4.4.6-1~bpo8+1) ...
• 3225[18:11:07] <crash_> yay
• 3226[18:11:31] <teclo-> 4.4 ? on what ?
• 3227[18:11:46] <crash_> debian jessie + backports
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• 3229[18:12:05] <gnat_x_noauth> hi folks. i'm having issues with my wifi connection. i can connect to WPA and WEP encrypted connections. however, when i try to connect to a plaintext connection, i get
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• 3231[18:12:43] <gnat_x_noauth> "Association request to the driver failed"
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• 3237[18:14:03] <gnat_x_noauth> it is a realtek card, and i'm using the firmware-realtek package from sid.
• 3238[18:14:59] <gnat_x_noauth> i've googled for this and found lots of people asking, few answering, except replaced-url
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• 3245[18:17:07] <gnat_x_noauth> this was not always the case, and now that i think about it, it has been going on a while, i just thought nothing of it, since i rarely use unencrypted wifi.
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• 3247[18:17:33] <gnat_x_noauth> but sometimes you're traveling, and don't have many options, but that+vpn
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• 3258[18:19:23] <gnat_x_noauth> also, is there a more relevant channel for this?
• 3259[18:20:29] <dontknow> gnat_x_noauth, it must be a firmware bug
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• 3264[18:21:41] <gnat_x_noauth> dontknow: that's my guess as well, the description in the stack exchange link i posted seems correct.
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• 3268[18:22:16] <gnat_x_noauth> dontknow: i wanted to rule out other things before attempting to build it myself.
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• 3271[18:22:51] <dontknow> gnat_x_noauth, build what?
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• 3273[18:23:18] <gnat_x_noauth> dontknow: the firmware package.
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• 3278[18:24:31] <dontknow> and building it wouldn't solve the issue anyway
• 3279[18:24:48] <gnat_x_noauth> oh, yeah, maybe, guess my card might be different from the one i was reading about.
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• 3281[18:25:14] <gnat_x_noauth> dontknow: the weird thing is, this issue showed up recently (in the fall maybe, not that recent i know)
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• 3288[18:25:59] * gnat_x_noauth might just have to get a usb adaptor.
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• 3292[18:26:41] <gnat_x_noauth> so annoying, it is weird that it is only plaintext connections, encrypted ones are just fine.
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• 3342[18:45:56] <moonwolf1> when i try to build a software the terminal gives: replaced-url
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• 3344[18:46:16] <Billsey> So... I've been reading the github info for runing Amazon Echo on raspberry pi and don't see anything obvious as to why it wouldn't run on a PC/Linux platform. Has anyone tried it yet?
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• 3346[18:47:10] <moonwolf1> i should add i have installed all dependencies its just sfml it complain about
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• 3356[18:49:16] <Billsey> MoonWolf, any chance you aren't specifying the location of the SFML libraries? "If SFML is not installed in a standard path, you can use the SFML_ROOT CMake (or environment) variable to tell CMake where SFML is."
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• 3360[18:51:01] <ircusertest> hi, do you guy know a little about Check framework?
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• 3363[18:52:53] <ircusertest> s/guy/guys/
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• 3365[18:54:05] <ircusertest> I'm trying to learn check and I run into a linking(?) problem. make check gives me undefined reference to `floor`
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• 3368[18:54:47] <ircusertest> btw I'm using autotools. Any pointers where to look?
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• 3714[19:09:46] <meoww> hi
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• 3724[19:10:20] <jelly> yes hi
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• 3727[19:10:28] <meoww> I have what might possibly be a dumb question. Is there an alternative to iwlwifi? My wireless randomly blimps out and it isn't my router
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• 3734[19:11:02] <jelly> not really, unless you can change your wifi hardware to something that uses a different driver
• 3735[19:11:02] <jpgepetto> list
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• 3737[19:11:05] <jpgepetto> oops
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• 3742[19:11:17] <meoww> hmmmmmm is it known to have problems or could it be something else?
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• 3745[19:11:59] <meoww> I notice when it goes out and I restart my computer, the terminal says "iwlwifi error: could not load firmware chunk"
• 3746[19:12:17] <jelly> meoww: it depends on the kernel/driver version and fw version, I guess
• 3747[19:12:25] <zykotick9> meoww: <note re: jelly's change wifi> some bios won't let you change the wifi easily... i'm looking at you Lenovo
• 3748[19:12:32] <jelly> meoww: which debian release do you use?
• 3749[19:12:38] <meoww> stretch
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• 3751[19:12:43] <jelly> !debian-next
• 3752[19:12:43] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
• 3753[19:12:44] <meoww> but this started happening when I was on jessie
• 3754[19:13:08] <meoww> okay cool I'll go there
• 3755[19:13:25] <jelly> meoww: I think there are some driver options to disable power saving that may or may not help
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• 3759[19:15:05] <jelly> meoww: I'd also ask in #linux-wireless here on freenode
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• 3776[19:17:33] <nikio_> why cant i open a file for edit as root
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• 3781[19:18:22] <jpgepetto> what are the permissions on said file?
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• 3805[19:24:43] <JordiGH> Do jessie-backports get security releases?
• 3806[19:25:01] <nikio_> jpgepetto, im just saying im trying gedit but i get an error
• 3807[19:25:12] <mozzie> hello
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• 3809[19:25:15] <nikio_> Cannot open display:
• 3810[19:25:15] <nikio_> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
• 3811[19:25:21] <nikio_> thats the error
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• 3813[19:25:41] <nikio_> im running it as root since i cant save to it otherwise
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• 3817[19:26:43] <bigx> hello there, does anyone know how to create a script that first try to connect to wifi and if it fails setup an ad-hoc network?
• 3818[19:26:56] <mozzie> debian 8 lightdm can not load $HOME/.profile
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• 3824[19:28:17] <mozzie> who can help me?
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• 3846[19:37:20] <jelly> JordiGH: I think not, but if you report an issue they may get new backported fixed packages
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• 3849[19:37:44] <JordiGH> Hm, I think Javi is having problems backporting, though: replaced-url
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• 3860[19:42:04] <act> replaced-url
• 3861[19:42:06] <jelly> JordiGH: if you want to help I guess the right place is their mailing list or #debian-backports on OFTC
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• 3870[19:43:20] <JordiGH> I don't think there's a list. I think Javi is all alone.
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• 3878[19:45:02] <jelly> I mean the backports team, they definitely have a list
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• 3894[19:48:19] <jelly> JordiGH: but yeah, the fresh CVEs aren't even visible in the security tracker yet?
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• 3897[19:48:46] <JordiGH> jelly: The hg guys gave Javi prior warning.
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• 3899[19:49:01] <JordiGH> I don't know more.
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• 3906[19:50:23] <jelly> JordiGH: #debian on freenode is probably not the best place to ask
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• 3915[19:53:16] <jelly> JordiGH: I'm sure the maintainer can ask the security team for help if they need it, going from 3.7.2 to a 3.7.3 upload at least for sid doesn't sound too problematic and I think bpo only gets an update after a version has landed in testing
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• 3925[19:55:55] <JordiGH> jelly: I'll send some emails later today.
• 3926[19:56:05] <JordiGH> (Unless someone else beats me to it)
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• 3935[19:58:52] <jelly> bpo is probably less problematic than figuring out whether/how to fix 3.1.2 in proper jessie
• 3936[19:59:30] <DammitJim> man, I have this debian machine that I joined to an AD
• 3937[19:59:42] <DammitJim> but now that I disconnected it from the network, I can no longer log on even with a local account
• 3938[19:59:48] <DammitJim> any pointers as to what I should do?
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• 3944[20:01:23] <alvarolm_> hi all ! :) is it safe to share an open unix domain socket ???
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• 3949[20:02:18] <phy1729> reboot into single user mode and edit your pam config to check local accounts before network (or have the network modules skip on uids below say 2000 which should cover all the local accounts)
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• 3951[20:03:18] <DammitJim> oh
• 3952[20:03:27] <DammitJim> OK< I don't know how to do that but I'll google it
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• 3955[20:03:38] <DammitJim> set up pam to check local accounts before network
• 3956[20:03:40] <DammitJim> got it!
• 3957[20:03:44] <DammitJim> many thanks
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• 3961[20:04:53] <jelly> or to continue if the network check fails or timeouts
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• 3963[20:05:32] <jelly> DammitJim: what are you using for pam and nss?
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• 3965[20:06:06] <DammitJim> thanks jelly
• 3966[20:06:13] <DammitJim> you mean, what deb package I'm using?
• 3967[20:06:24] <DammitJim> I know I had to edit common-session for pam.d
• 3968[20:06:25] <jelly> and which setup, yes
• 3969[20:06:33] <DammitJim> and krb5 + samba + winbind
• 3970[20:06:40] <DammitJim> I know, old config
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• 3973[20:08:24] <DammitJim> I think winbind 4.1.17
• 3974[20:08:31] <DammitJim> man, how do I know the version of pam?
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• 3976[20:09:43] <jelly> dpkg -l libpam\* ?
• 3977[20:09:44] <dpkg> ii libpam\* 3.8-12 jelly's private gamp collection
• 3978[20:09:55] <jelly> pam not gamp!
• 3979[20:10:33] <DammitJim> libpam-krb5 4.6-3
• 3980[20:11:07] <jelly> that's not pam itself, look at libpam0g
• 3981[20:11:13] <DammitJim> libpam-winbind:amd64 4.1.17
• 3982[20:11:20] <DammitJim> oh
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• 3987[20:12:10] <DammitJim> 1.1.8-3.1
• 3988[20:12:12] <DammitJim> libpam0g
• 3989[20:13:04] <jelly> right
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• 3997[20:14:56] <DammitJim> so, I should edit this in session-common?
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• 4034[20:25:37] <meoww> hi
• 4035[20:25:41] <meoww> I was here earlier
• 4036[20:25:54] <meoww> and someone referenced me to a different channel, which I forgot
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• 4038[20:26:12] <jhutchins> meoww: For what?
• 4039[20:26:13] <meoww> it was like #linux-wireless?
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• 4043[20:26:48] <meoww> yeah that was it
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• 4045[20:26:50] <meoww> nvm lol
• 4046[20:27:00] <mori_> What’s the best practice for distributing a native C++ binary in a ‘.deb’ package file? I’d like to prebuild the binary so I don’t have to assume my clients’ nodes have the entire build toolchain, but I’m running in to the issue that different distros may have different glibc installed.
• 4047[20:27:18] <jhutchins> meoww: Also #debian-next on oftc.net for stretch support.
• 4048[20:27:26] <jhutchins> meoww: You probably just need to install the firmware.
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• 4050[20:27:53] <jhutchins> meoww: WHich firmware depends on what chipset, but I think firmware-nonfree includes most of them.
• 4051[20:28:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1724
• 4052[20:28:16] <karlpinc> What are my options for supporting an AMD cpu with built-in Integrated AMD Radeon R3 (jaguar)?
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• 4063[20:32:07] <jhutchins> karlpinc: I think it's the same whether it's embeded or discrete.
• 4064[20:32:15] <karlpinc> Looks like there's support in the non-free fglrx-driver package. But will it ever be supported in the radeon driver?
• 4065[20:32:27] <jhutchins> karlpinc: From AMD?
• 4066[20:32:28] <greycat> Ever is a long time.
• 4067[20:33:02] <karlpinc> jhutchins: Yeah.
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• 4069[20:33:40] <jhutchins> karlpinc: That would be an "ask AMD" question, we wouldn't know. As far as OSS support goes, it's really not Debian that develops those, see replaced-url
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• 4071[20:34:45] <jelly> karlpinc: if anyone is EVER going to answer that it's #radeon people
• 4072[20:35:26] <jelly> may be video-radeon, may be video-amdgpu, but that's the channel
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• 4077[20:36:56] <karlpinc> Humm. replaced-url
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• 4079[20:37:33] <DammitJim> I"m lost jelly
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• 4081[20:37:43] <DammitJim> I"ve been googling stuff, but can't seem to find anything
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• 4083[20:38:37] <jelly> DammitJim: well... you added or modified your config... compare it to some old backup if you're confused?
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• 4085[20:38:57] <axk4545> how do I set the default DE in debian from the terminal?
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• 4088[20:39:51] <Tom01> good Question
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• 4091[20:40:24] <greycat> Look for /etc/alternatives/*desk* or *session* or something? I don't have those, but maybe that's because I don't use a DE.
• 4092[20:40:41] <DammitJim> I guess I don't know where one changes this priority thing where it looks into the local users first
• 4093[20:41:02] <greycat> DammitJim: are you talking about /etc/nsswitch.conf ?
• 4094[20:41:04] <Tom01> My Installation is using german as default, but I want to set it to english. But after a Reboot it is changed back to german.
• 4095[20:41:11] <DammitJim> yeah
• 4096[20:41:20] <jelly> axk4545: might be «update-alternatives --config x-session-manager»
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• 4099[20:41:43] <jelly> axk4545: I'm just guessing wildly, please confirm or deny
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• 4101[20:41:52] <axk4545> thanks jelly. will try that
• 4102[20:42:37] <greycat> x-session-manager sounds familiar from years back, which is why I thought of checking for *session* in alternatives
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• 4104[20:43:48] <axk4545> jelly: yup. you got it.
• 4105[20:43:54] <jelly> worked?
• 4106[20:44:01] <bmomjian> Can someone explain why this apt-get purge is failing with a divert error, dpkg-divert: error: mismatch on package ? replaced-url
• 4107[20:44:03] <karlpinc> DammitJim: "man nsswitch.conf" is not helpful?
• 4108[20:44:31] <axk4545> jelly: it did.
• 4109[20:45:02] <jelly> !win axk4545
• 4110[20:45:02] <dpkg> Congratulations, axk4545! You have won second prize in a beauty contest!
• 4111[20:45:41] <axk4545> jelly: interesting bot.
• 4112[20:46:17] <awal1> axk4545: you can configure all your default stuff using update-alternatives. update-alternatives --get-selections then config what you want using --config
• 4113[20:46:28] <greycat> well, not all stuff...
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• 4115[20:46:38] <awal1> almost all :D
• 4116[20:46:57] <awal1> or better many stuff :P
• 4117[20:47:02] <greycat> Basically it's for choosing among several packages that compete for the same niche. Like text editors.
• 4118[20:47:37] <axk4545> awal1: thanks. I was just stuck on what alternative was the DE.
• 4119[20:48:03] <awal1> axk4545, also you can do that (choose your DE/WM) via .xsession file
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• 4121[20:48:05] <karlpinc> bmomjian: I can't explain it. But this is not surprising since I don't know much. I can't even tell you if a message like that matters. Is this the box that you upgraded to jessie? I have it in my mind that you're supposed to purge uninstalled squeeze packages using wheezy before upgrading to jessie.
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• 4123[20:48:10] <jelly> that technically isn't the DE, but the one component that starts a specific DE and holds its session
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• 4125[20:48:29] <greycat> awal1: I believe that only works for xdm and startx. Not for what 99% of our users have.
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• 4128[20:48:59] <bmomjian> yes, went from Squeeze to Wheezy to Jessie, same box.
• 4129[20:49:00] <axk4545> jelly: it does what I need it to. I can't choose the session at login b/c it is in crouton.
• 4130[20:49:01] <jelly> gdm, kdm and otherdm have a menu but I have no idea how they pick the default
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• 4132[20:49:09] <jelly> $otherdm
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• 4134[20:49:35] <jelly> what's a crouton, in this context
• 4135[20:49:42] <bmomjian> This suggests I rename the file and try again: replaced-url
• 4136[20:50:08] <jelly> bmomjian: which debian release are you using now?
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• 4138[20:50:25] <bmomjian> Jessie
• 4139[20:50:33] <bmomjian> Odd, neither file exists
• 4140[20:50:42] <bmomjian> I can try creating empty ones and see if that helps
• 4141[20:50:48] <axk4545> jelly: replaced-url
• 4142[20:51:06] <jelly> bmomjian: I'd probably look at the divert database, if there's nothing fglrx specific I'd just comment out the line in package's prerm/postrm script
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• 4146[20:51:33] <karlpinc> axk4545: That sounds like a spooky thing to do.
• 4147[20:51:37] <jelly> axk4545: crazy stuff
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• 4150[20:51:49] <axk4545> karlpinc: in what way?
• 4151[20:51:53] <bmomjian> odd neither /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 nor /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/libGL.so.1.2 exist.
• 4152[20:52:13] <greycat> bmomjian: It's not about files, real or otherwise. It's about dpkg-divert. Maybe you will need to do something like dpkg-divert --remove blah
• 4153[20:52:21] <bmomjian> oh
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• 4155[20:52:45] <bmomjian> Oh, I see that command now
• 4156[20:52:58] <jelly> bmomjian: because on jessie there's multiarch and the paths are not /usr/lib but /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu or whatnot
• 4157[20:53:01] <greycat> I've never had to do it personally, so I'm just going by a glance at the man page.
• 4158[20:53:10] <bmomjian> since the file is gone I can just do dpkg-divert --remove.
• 4159[20:53:17] <greycat> jelly: but (s)he's purging an old proprietary squeeze package, so...
• 4160[20:53:49] <jelly> perhaps it would have worked after squeeze->wheezy but not later
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• 4166[20:55:37] <bmomjian> This old package stuff is new to me. I didn't realize stuff like this would remain so I am cleaning it upt.
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• 4168[20:56:29] <jelly> I guess you removed "contrib non-free" sections at some point during release upgrades so those packages never got upgraded
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• 4170[20:57:27] <bmomjian> Yeah, dpkg-divert --remove worked fine, thanks
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• 4173[20:58:43] <DammitJim> thanks, wasn't sure if it was nsswitch.conf
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• 4180[21:00:05] <bmomjian> dpkg --list|grep -v '^ii' returns nothing. :-)
• 4181[21:00:05] <dpkg> bmomjian: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface.
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• 4187[21:01:28] <bmomjian> Uh, I still have non-free listed. I didn't remove that.
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• 4202[21:07:26] <bmomjian> What I did do is to add a cron job to alert me if this happens again, dpkg --list | sed -n '6,$p'|grep -v '^ii '
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• 4205[21:07:56] <hanshenrik_> i have 2 network cards,
• 4206[21:08:03] <hanshenrik_> for some reason, only 1 of them is working
• 4207[21:08:38] <hanshenrik_> oh
• 4208[21:08:45] <hanshenrik_> its detected, but not activated i guess
• 4209[21:08:49] <hanshenrik_> i get it when i write ifconfig -a
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• 4213[21:10:12] <hanshenrik_> replaced-url
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• 4215[21:10:17] <hanshenrik_> how can i activate eth1?
• 4216[21:10:36] <bn`> ifconfig eth1 up
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• 4218[21:10:51] <tvon> Wonder Twin powers activate, in the form of ETH1
• 4219[21:11:08] <hanshenrik_> thanks, that was easy
• 4220[21:11:28] <hanshenrik_> well, i need to give it a static ip tho
• 4221[21:11:34] <bn`> if you need to set a static ip you can do so with ifconfig too
• 4222[21:11:57] <hanshenrik_> ill come back if i get in trouble
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• 4224[21:12:07] <bn`> ifconfig eth1 192.168.178.23 # whatever
• 4225[21:12:10] <jmcnaught> hanshenrik_: did you configure eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces? if so you should be able to use ifup eth1
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• 4227[21:12:23] <hanshenrik_> jmcnaught, already done ^^
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• 4230[21:13:10] <jmcnaught> hanshenrik_: then you might want to make a paste of your interfaces file for help diagnosing why it doesn't come up. also ifconfig eth1 up isn't the same as ifup eth1
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• 4232[21:13:29] <hanshenrik_> ohh i thought it was
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• 4244[21:17:46] <jhutchins> jmcnaught: ifconfig doesn't readd the interface file, right?
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• 4261[21:24:43] <hanshenrik_> was btrfs support added in debian 7 ?
• 4262[21:24:50] <hanshenrik_> or 8?
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• 4272[21:26:14] <greycat> replaced-url
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• 4275[21:26:35] <hanshenrik_> thanks
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• 4285[21:28:56] <brontosaurusrex> What can I do with missing GLX extensions? Blender not starting ...., running legacy nvidia driver blob
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• 4288[21:29:44] <jmcnaught> jhutchins: i'm pretty sure it doesn't, also ifconfig has been deprecated for several years and replaced by "ip"
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• 4305[21:32:47] <bmomjian> Is there a way to run apt-get upgrade and see _only_ installed lines, not the lines when nothing is upgraded?
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• 4308[21:33:03] <bmomjian> apt-get -q -q doesn't show the updated packages, only errors.
• 4309[21:33:19] <kion> I did a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and got this: The following packages have been kept back: libreoffice libreoffice-base.... The question is why are they being kept back? what exactly does that mean?
• 4310[21:33:59] <rainfyre> apt-get dist-upgrade
• 4311[21:34:36] <rainfyre> because kali is tracking debian testing and sometimes you have to run dist-upgrade instead of a normal upgrade.
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• 4313[21:34:54] <mdim> hi folks
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• 4317[21:35:25] <mdim> I guess that for Vagrant the debian/jessie64 is more or less official on HashiCorp
• 4318[21:35:35] <rainfyre> i'l happily defer to someone who wants to explain it with more articularity. or you could talk to google about running debian testing.
• 4319[21:35:41] <mdim> has anyone had issues with using that image on Windows as a host machine?
• 4320[21:35:54] <rainfyre> haven't used windows since 1995, sorry bro.
• 4321[21:35:56] <mdim> one person is complaining it reports some rsync errors
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• 4323[21:36:17] <rainfyre> hm.
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• 4325[21:36:37] <rainfyre> mdim: I don't know what Vagrant is or HashiCorp, sorry.
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• 4337[21:39:54] <kion> rainfyre, were you talking to me? apt-get dist-upgrade
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• 4341[21:41:23] <rainfyre> kion: yes bro
• 4342[21:42:05] <kion> rainfyre, I am running Jessie, is there a newer version now?
• 4343[21:42:12] <greycat> jessie is current stable
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• 4345[21:42:17] <jim> I like to put -d, like apt-get -d dist-upgrade (or if you prefer, aptitude -d dist-upgrade) which calcs the upgrade and just downloads the packages...then when you have time you can take the -d off, and it will also install them
• 4346[21:42:28] <bmomjian> I might be wrong about apt-get -q -q. I was using -q3. Will test later.
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• 4357[21:45:03] <rainfyre> kion: kion aren't you running kali?
• 4358[21:45:20] <kion> rainfyre, nop, Debian Jessie
• 4359[21:45:40] <rainfyre> kion: i'm so sorry, I thought I was in a different channel.
• 4360[21:45:57] <rainfyre> kion: please disregard what I said about a dist-upgrade
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• 4362[21:46:27] <kion> rainfyre, no problem....
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• 4364[21:46:35] <rainfyre> kion: not sure why those packages won't upgrade
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• 4366[21:47:13] <kion> rainfyre, thanks anyways have a good one
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• 4368[21:47:47] <rainfyre> kion: you're welcome. I'd check your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure it's correct
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• 4371[21:50:13] <rainfyre> kion: check your sources.list - apt-get dist-upgrade may fix your problem but I don't want to give you bad advise
• 4372[21:51:04] <hanshenrik_> did debian 6 support ReiserFS root installation?
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• 4374[21:51:52] <TomTomTosch> kion, can you paste what 'apt-cache policy libreoffice' says to paste.debian.net please?
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• 4377[21:52:16] <TomTomTosch> kion, i would not do a dist-upgrade.
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• 4388[21:57:32] <Walakea> why does debian not include icecat?
• 4389[21:57:38] <hanshenrik_> what is icecat?
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• 4391[21:57:46] <Walakea> gnu firefox
• 4392[21:58:07] <hanshenrik_> well, we have mozilla-firefox and iceweasel, do we really need another?
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• 4396[21:58:42] <hanshenrik_> oh, actually we dont have mozilla-firefox anymore
• 4397[21:58:43] <hanshenrik_> meh
• 4398[21:58:49] <Walakea> after next release there will not be iceweasel
• 4399[21:59:01] <hanshenrik_> ....okay
• 4400[21:59:03] <hanshenrik_> why? :o
• 4401[21:59:11] <Walakea> rumors
• 4402[21:59:18] <Walakea> wait i will find a link
• 4403[21:59:23] <TomTomTosch> we have firefox. iceweasel got renamed.
• 4404[21:59:32] <axc1298> they're not rumors
• 4405[21:59:33] <zinx> firefox-esr
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• 4407[22:00:26] <hanshenrik_> i would imagine that backporting all the security fixes for firefox is a huge job tho
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• 4409[22:00:53] <TomTomTosch> exactly the same job as for iceweasel. it's just a rename.
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• 4411[22:01:01] <zinx> hanshenrik_: yes, quite
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• 4413[22:01:18] <zinx> TomTomTosch: firefox-esr is a mozilla thing.
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• 4418[22:01:49] <zinx> TomTomTosch: debian only has to forward port its own patches
• 4419[22:01:55] <axc1298> zinx: debian comes with the esr version
• 4420[22:01:58] <zinx> TomTomTosch: which is, in general, far easier
• 4421[22:02:32] <zinx> axc1298: well, it 'comes' with both. the iceweasel package will migrate you to firefox-esr, and firefox-esr is closer to what iceweasel was anyway.
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• 4423[22:03:07] <RippyDippy> Is there any difference at this time between Firefox on their website and the repo's iceweasel
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• 4425[22:03:25] <zinx> sid doesn't have iceweasel any more
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• 4427[22:03:52] <qman__> iceweasel is icecat, that's the rename
• 4428[22:03:56] <zinx> no
• 4429[22:04:05] <qman__> replaced-url
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• 4431[22:04:38] <qman__> "GNU IceCat, formerly known as GNU IceWeasel,[3] is a free software rebranding of the Mozilla Firefox web browser distributed by the GNU Project."
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• 4433[22:04:41] <zinx> the rename is going away in debian.
• 4434[22:04:46] <zinx> not changing to icecat :x
• 4435[22:04:50] <kion> TomTomTosch, here it is replaced-url
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• 4437[22:05:12] <greycat> icecat is a different fork of firefox, not relevant to Debian at this time.
• 4438[22:05:23] <Walakea> why not?
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• 4441[22:05:29] <greycat> Because Debian hasn't decided to use it.
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• 4445[22:06:06] <roycroft> hello, folks
• 4446[22:06:43] <roycroft> i need to have vpnc automatically connect on a debain jessie host when it needs to send traffic to the private network
• 4447[22:06:44] <TomTomTosch> kion, how did you install that? it's not the debian libreoffice.
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• 4449[22:07:03] <roycroft> is there a standard way of doing this?
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• 4451[22:07:18] <roycroft> i don't want to reinvent the wheel if it is not necessary to do so
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• 4453[22:07:47] <kion> TomTomTosch, I would swear I did it trough backports, how do you know it is not debian libreoffice?
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• 4456[22:08:01] <roycroft> to be clear, the client is jessie, and the firewall is a cisco asa
• 4457[22:08:03] <Billsey> Dang, the raspberry Alexa server runs fine, but the client fails with ssl errors when run on Debian 8
• 4458[22:08:09] <hanshenrik_> >In August 2005,[10] the Gnuzilla project adopted the GNU IceWeasel name for a rebranded distribution of Firefox that made no references to nonfree plugins
• 4459[22:08:12] <hanshenrik_> you gotta be kidding me
• 4460[22:08:22] <hanshenrik_> ... just FSF being FSF i guess...
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• 4462[22:08:48] <TomTomTosch> kion, no repo url and the version is different. if i were you i would remove that and reinstall from stable or backports.
• 4463[22:09:09] <TomTomTosch> kion, the one in backports is newer anyway.
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• 4465[22:09:17] <kion> TomTomTosch, Sure I will!
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• 4467[22:09:39] <kion> TomTomTosch, will sudo apt-get remove libreoffice* work?
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• 4470[22:09:59] <TomTomTosch> kion, sure. :)
• 4471[22:10:18] <kion> and then apt-get -t jessie-backports install libreoffice?
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• 4473[22:10:36] <kion> TomTomTosch, or libreoffice*
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• 4481[22:12:35] <TomTomTosch> kion, libreoffice is a metapackage. it pull the whole suite.
• 4482[22:12:47] <TomTomTosch> s/pull/pulls
• 4483[22:13:11] <TomTomTosch> kion, just apt-get -t jessie-backports install libreoffice should do.
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• 4485[22:13:28] <kion> TomTomTosch, Thanks, I will do it now
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• 4487[22:14:27] <TomTomTosch> kion, do you have gnome installed?
• 4488[22:14:44] <kion> TomTomTosch, yes gnome 3
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• 4495[22:15:52] <kion> TomTomTosch, Does that matter?
• 4496[22:16:04] <TomTomTosch> kion, skip the remove part. gnome depends on libreoffice. that idea was bs.
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• 4501[22:16:54] <kion> TomTomTosch, oops I already did...
• 4502[22:17:10] <kion> TomTomTosch, Did I just break something?
• 4503[22:17:18] <TomTomTosch> kion, apt-get install gnome then ;D
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• 4505[22:17:34] <kion> TomTomTosch, only gnome or gnome3
• 4506[22:17:55] <jhutchins> kion: Gnome will automatically install it, you can still install it without gnome.
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• 4509[22:18:30] <kion> jhutchins, so only install libreoffice?
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• 4514[22:20:09] <TomTomTosch> kion, install gnome, that install gnome3. then you can install libreoffice from backports.
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• 4516[22:20:44] <kion> TomTomTosch, Ok, so apt-get install gnome right?
• 4517[22:20:53] <TomTomTosch> kion, sry for the confusion. yep.
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• 4519[22:21:05] <kion> TomTomTosch, here I go
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• 4524[22:22:41] <kion> TomTomTosch, I got this error replaced-url
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• 4527[22:23:35] <TomTomTosch> interesting. paste apt-cache policy please.
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• 4532[22:25:09] <kion> TomTomTosch, here is the apt-cache policy gnome: replaced-url
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• 4535[22:25:39] <TomTomTosch> kion, just apt-cache policy please :)
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• 4537[22:26:47] <kion> TomTomTosch, replaced-url
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• 4546[22:29:11] <TomTomTosch> kion, you seem to have many duplicates there, but we can deal with that later. 'aptitude why-not gnome' please.
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• 4548[22:29:54] <kion> TomTomTosch, Unable to find a reason to remove gnome.
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• 4550[22:30:12] <distortedvoice> I'm not seeing my wifi adapter by typing lspci on a fresh install of Debian 8
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• 4556[22:33:10] <RippyDippy> distortedvoice: What wifi adapter do you have?
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• 4559[22:33:11] <distortedvoice> RippyDippy, I can't recall, It's wierd it doesn't even show up in lspci. It is in my Thinkpad, I can't remember the chipset
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• 4564[22:33:20] <RippyDippy> distortedvoice: I am running on multiple thinkpads. Model name?
• 4565[22:33:33] <distortedvoice> T530
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• 4567[22:34:18] <jmcnaught> distortedvoice: "lspci -nn | grep -i audio" returns nothing at all?
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• 4570[22:34:40] <TomTomTosch> kion, 'dpkg -l | grep gnome' please.
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• 4574[22:35:00] <RippyDippy> jmcnaught: Why audio?
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• 4576[22:35:24] <RippyDippy> jmcnaught: Should it be lspci -nn | grep -i network
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• 4578[22:35:54] <distortedvoice> All I am seeing is my Gigabit ethernet with network
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• 4580[22:36:09] <kion> TomTomTosch, dpkg -l | grep gnome replaced-url
• 4581[22:36:26] <RippyDippy> distortedvoice: Is iwlwifi running / supporting your network card
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• 4584[22:36:36] <TomTomTosch> kion, oh, cool. we broke nothing \o/
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• 4587[22:37:03] <TomTomTosch> kion, 'apt-get -t jessie-backports install libreoffice' should do.
• 4588[22:37:10] <kion> TomTomTosch, lol Thanks!
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• 4590[22:37:17] <distortedvoice> RippyDippy, I will boot to a live CD that has it working hold on.
• 4591[22:37:35] <RippyDippy> distortedvoice: check your iwlwifi binaries before you go
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• 4594[22:38:13] <TomTomTosch> kion, afterwards you can do apt-get install gnome, but that's just a metapackage anyway i think.
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• 4596[22:38:23] <distortedvoice> RippyDippy, I didn't have iwlwifi installed
• 4597[22:38:24] <jmcnaught> derp.. too much multitasking for me sorry distortedvoice
• 4598[22:38:39] <kion> TomTomTosch, what will happen with the apt-get install gnome?
• 4599[22:38:44] <RippyDippy> distortedvoice: Well that'll be your issue
• 4600[22:38:45] <distortedvoice> RippyDippy, Just installed the firmware
• 4601[22:38:51] <RippyDippy> distortedvoice: bingo
• 4602[22:38:59] <distortedvoice> rebooting now
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• 4605[22:39:42] <distortedvoice> RippyDippy, still nothing
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• 4607[22:39:55] <RippyDippy> distortedvoice: how did you 'install' the firmware
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• 4610[22:40:12] <distortedvoice> RippyDippy, I have installed ralink-firmware realtek-firmware and iwlwifi-firmware
• 4611[22:40:23] <TomTomTosch> kion, it's gnome's metapackage that pulls all the little tools that belong to gnome. don't think you need that but just to make sure it's all there.
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• 4613[22:40:50] <kion> TomTomTosch, ok no problem so most likely it will tell me that it is already installed yes?
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• 4616[22:41:09] <distortedvoice> RippyDippy, I don't see a thing for wifi in lspci.
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• 4620[22:41:35] <TomTomTosch> kion, no, it got removed with libreoffice, but it has no real content anyway.
• 4621[22:41:42] <RippyDippy> distortedvoice: Nothing that says 'Network Controller'
• 4622[22:41:50] <TomTomTosch> kion, did libreoffice from backports install?
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• 4625[22:42:22] <pingfloyd> distortedvoice: how about pastebin entire output of lspci
• 4626[22:42:24] <distortedvoice> RippyDippy, Correct.
• 4627[22:42:35] <greycat> use lspci -nn to get the PCI IDs
• 4628[22:42:53] <RippyDippy> ^
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• 4632[22:43:41] <DexterF> hi
• 4633[22:43:49] <distortedvoice> paste.debian.net/422624
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• 4642[22:45:21] <RippyDippy> distortedvoice: I don't want to have to ask the obvious... but are you 100% sure it has a wireless adapter?
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• 4644[22:45:37] <distortedvoice> Yes, It works fine in Kali Rolling Release
• 4645[22:45:40] <DexterF> there is a bug in jessie which requires the "caps" package to be downgraded to oldstable or else a plugin rename breaks multimedia things
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• 4647[22:46:04] <distortedvoice> I can also flip the switch and it turns off the wifi light
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• 4650[22:46:35] <DexterF> reportbug asked for smtp credentials and gmx *again* expects them in some other format and I just am annoyed with the shebang, so there: I said it
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• 4652[22:47:16] <Brigo> distortedvoice, could it be and usb wireless adapter?
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• 4654[22:47:35] <distortedvoice> Brigo, I also checked lsusb
• 4655[22:48:00] <distortedvoice> That finds my bluetooth adapter
• 4656[22:48:26] <jmcnaught> distortedvoice: the wifi works in a different distro? you could try using a kernel from jessie-backports. it's strange though, lspci should report everything attached to the PCI bus even if the kernel doesn't have a module for it
• 4657[22:48:44] <distortedvoice> jmcnaught, that's why I am so baffled
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• 4670[22:52:29] <jmcnaught> distortedvoice: had there been any errors about firmware or network devices in dmesg output?
• 4671[22:52:31] <distortedvoice> jmcnaught, Brigo, RippyDippy, It now is showing up on a reboot...
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• 4673[22:52:41] <distortedvoice> wierd.
• 4674[22:53:25] <distortedvoice> It was a realtek
• 4675[22:53:39] <RippyDippy> distortedvoice: Yay!
• 4676[22:53:48] <jmcnaught> distortedvoice: that's sort of like how my dog had selective hearing. Have you been inside the case at all? Maybe something's loose?
• 4677[22:54:34] <distortedvoice> jmcnaught, haha I have taken the wireless card out and tried installing a 5Ghz adapter a few months ago. It told me to F/O.
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• 4685[22:55:52] <jmcnaught> distortedvoice: as far as i know the thinkpad bios/firmwares have a whitelist of supported cards. to get around it you need to install libreboot (if your model is supported)
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• 4688[22:56:25] <distortedvoice> jmcnaught, I picked up a USB programmer to flash a hacked whitelist, just haven't gotten around to it
• 4689[22:56:55] <distortedvoice> jmcnaught, GQ-4X
• 4690[22:56:59] <jmcnaught> distortedvoice: well, i hope your wifi continues to stay plugged in for now. have you gotten a wifi connection working yet?
• 4691[22:57:36] <distortedvoice> jmcnaught, haven't done it yet. I am still getting tint2 and docky configured how I want in openbox
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• 4702[23:03:02] <distortedvoice> jmcnaught, Works, thanks for the help
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• 4710[23:05:19] <bizarref1sh> Lo all
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• 4713[23:05:39] <bizarref1sh> Today I was offended by the cowsay package.
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• 4715[23:05:44] <kmnf> hey guys
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• 4717[23:05:55] <greycat> Because it's not f1shsay?
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• 4719[23:05:59] <kmnf> i booted a Linux DVD and am trying to mount a USB drive
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• 4722[23:06:13] <kmnf> however, "mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt" says file not found
• 4723[23:06:21] <kmnf> usually i think mount autodetects the FS
• 4724[23:06:24] <kmnf> what swrong here?
• 4725[23:06:28] <bizarrefish> greycat: Nah, because of the offensive cowfiles
• 4726[23:06:42] <bizarrefish> For instance, "$ cowsay -f sodomized-sheep LOL"
• 4727[23:06:56] <greycat> Then don't use that option?
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• 4731[23:07:25] <bizarrefish> greycat: Too offended to think clearly :<
• 4732[23:07:44] <bizarrefish> I am surprised, considering fortune has a separate package for 'rude' fortunes.
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• 4735[23:08:23] <bizarrefish> kmnf: Does /dev/sdb2 exist?
• 4736[23:08:31] <kmnf> yea
• 4737[23:08:35] <bizarrefish> Hmm...
• 4738[23:08:39] <kmnf> dmesg shows that it was my USB device
• 4739[23:08:39] <bizarrefish> Check dmesg, perhaps
• 4740[23:08:51] <bizarrefish> Is it currently present in /dev/?
• 4741[23:08:55] <bizarrefish> ls -l /dev/sdb2
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• 4743[23:08:59] <kmnf> yea
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• 4745[23:09:03] <bizarrefish> Very odd
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• 4748[23:09:13] <bizarrefish> And I take it /mnt exists...
• 4749[23:09:46] <kmnf> yea
• 4750[23:09:49] <bizarrefish> Can't say i've ever seen mount produce file-not-found error
• 4751[23:09:53] <kmnf> i think its an NTFS partition
• 4752[23:10:09] <bizarrefish> Seems likely it's related to one of the magic helper programs
• 4753[23:10:12] <kmnf> this is the install environment on the Debian DVD
• 4754[23:10:27] <kmnf> i just went to one of the virtual terminals
• 4755[23:10:29] <bizarrefish> I'd have thought that would be msdos partition
• 4756[23:10:45] <bizarrefish> Unless something has changed recently
• 4757[23:10:52] <kmnf> thats what im worndering
• 4758[23:10:55] <kmnf> womdering*
• 4759[23:10:56] <bizarrefish> What's the output of mount -a
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• 4763[23:12:05] <kmnf> sorry it wasnt file not found
• 4764[23:12:09] <kmnf> it was invalid argument
• 4765[23:12:11] <bizarrefish> Ah right
• 4766[23:12:15] <kmnf> and mount -a does nothing
• 4767[23:12:24] <bizarrefish> Perhaps just 'mount' then
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• 4769[23:12:30] <bizarrefish> mount -a used to list all mounted things
• 4770[23:12:32] <kmnf> mount doesnt show my devices mount
• 4771[23:12:47] <bizarrefish> That's concerning
• 4772[23:12:56] <bizarrefish> cat /proc/mounts
• 4773[23:12:59] <kmnf> i tried it on a debian netinst cd and the big DVD
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• 4775[23:13:11] <bizarrefish> It's probably working fine, but i'm just out of touch
• 4776[23:13:17] <bizarrefish> :-/
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• 4778[23:13:56] <bizarrefish> Invalid argument can happen when mounting, if it tries to mount as the wrong fs
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• 4780[23:14:13] <bizarrefish> mount -tntfs /dev/sdb2 /mnt
• 4781[23:14:19] <bizarrefish> (If it's ntfs)
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• 4785[23:15:09] <bizarrefish> dmesg would normally say something after an 'Invalid Argument' error
• 4786[23:15:15] <kmnf> i tried that
• 4787[23:15:22] <kmnf> doesnt it autodetect fs?
• 4788[23:15:36] <bizarrefish> kmnf: Usually, yes. Only some weird FSes don't autodetect
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• 4790[23:15:48] <bizarrefish> It wouldn't be a weird one
• 4791[23:16:02] <bizarrefish> Perhaps: file -s /dev/sdb2
• 4792[23:16:23] <bizarrefish> That should tell you what you're dealing with
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• 4809[23:23:17] <jhutchins> kmnf: ls /dev might be informative.
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• 4811[23:23:38] <jhutchins> Someone earlier had a USB that detected but didn't create a node.
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• 4813[23:23:50] <jhutchins> Showed in lsusb, but not fdisk -l
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• 4816[23:24:12] <bizarrefish> jhutchins: Likely a corrupted partition table
• 4817[23:24:23] <bizarrefish> Though, that should still create the whole-disk node...
• 4818[23:24:34] <bizarrefish> No whole-disk node probably means borked drive
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• 4820[23:24:42] <bizarrefish> Unless anyone can think of another reason
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• 4822[23:25:23] <jhutchins> bizarrefish: Microsoft coming up with more new propriatary filesystems.
• 4823[23:25:42] <bizarrefish> jhutchins: That shouldn't affect block devices. FSes are a layer above that
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• 4825[23:26:54] <armin> 23:26 [dpkg] You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
• 4826[23:26:55] <armin> o.O
• 4827[23:27:21] <armin> i should stop trying to get into conversations with machines.
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• 4830[23:27:45] <TomTomTosch> .win armin
• 4831[23:27:58] <TomTomTosch> meh
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• 4834[23:28:20] <armin> TomTomTosch: hi.
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• 4838[23:29:24] <jhutchins> bizarrefish: True
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• 4850[23:38:24] <zxd> there is this script which loads environment variables etc/profile.d/infinality-settings.sh problem is it isn't loaded by lightdm where is the correct place to place the script
• 4851[23:38:30] <zxd> or symlink it
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• 4861[23:39:48] <jhutchins> zxd: Probably meant to work with gdm.
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• 4867[23:42:30] <teraflops> zxd: are you talking about infinality bundle?
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• 4869[23:43:22] <zxd> teraflops, the fonts patch
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• 4871[23:43:30] <zxd> font rendering
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• 4878[23:46:18] <transhuman_> since it doesnt seem possible to get around the bug (through upgrading individual packages to backports, testing or unstable) is there an easy method of going back to an older kernel in jessie that has xen in it?
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• 4880[23:47:02] <transhuman_> in other words a kernel built for the version before jessie but stay working on jessie
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• 4882[23:47:59] <tharkun> Why does the version command on judd still states the versions of squeeze and squeeze-backports? They are no longer supported anywhere.
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• 4885[23:48:30] <teraflops> zxd: yeah. Hmm never installed outside archlinux. Did you take a look at replaced-url
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• 4897[23:51:53] <menace> weeeelll... swift in debian (replaced-url
• 4898[23:52:30] <teraflops> zxd: anyway apart the patched fonts and some configs really want is export FT2_SUBPIXEL_HINTING=1 which is a vast improvement
• 4899[23:52:56] <teraflops> What you really want*
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• 4917[23:59:15] <teraflops> zxd also try running the. sh from ~/.xprofile
• 4918[23:59:20] <teraflops> Meh
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