• 0[00:00:20] <stinerman> If I run a few GNOME apps from the terminal, I will receive "Error 71 (Protocol error) dispatching to Wayland display GDK_BACKEND" or something similar; putting Wayland in debug mode gets me this just before the other error message: wl_display@1.error(nil, 7, "failed to import supplied dmabufs: Unsupported buffer format 808665665")
• 1[00:00:35] <stinerman> does anyone know what that buffer format refers to?
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• 3[00:00:49] <deadmarshal> trek00: bash: glxinfo: command not found
• 4[00:00:52] <deadmarshal> :|
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• 6[00:01:22] <trek00> roflbot: another thing: try to unplug usb device, then type tail -f /var/log/syslog
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• 8[00:01:37] <trek00> roflbot: it will print errors if any
• 9[00:02:09] <trek00> deadmarshal: apt install mesa-utils
• 10[00:02:33] <humpled> my friend's android could see the current available from the usb port it was connected to
• 11[00:02:39] <roflbot> trek00: ok testing in a little while, in a middle of some ripping on the raspberry pi, can take a while :p
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• 13[00:02:45] <trek00> roflbot: after you executed tail, you can plug usb
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• 16[00:04:35] <deadmarshal> trek00: OpenGL renderer string: AMD TURKS (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.19.0-5-amd64, LLVM 7.0.1)
• 17[00:05:07] <trek00> it's enabled then
• 18[00:06:26] <deadmarshal> but why when I run a game on steam, it says that I need to install open gl 4.1?
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• 20[00:06:50] <trek00> deadmarshal: oh well.. may be not 4.1
• 21[00:07:14] <trek00> deadmarshal: your card lacks of float16 probably
• 22[00:07:33] <deadmarshal> can't I update my open gl to 4.1?
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• 24[00:08:25] <trek00> deadmarshal: no, but you could workaround it
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• 28[00:09:48] <trek00> deadmarshal: i don't have steam but you should add these options to the game launcher: MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=4.1 MESA_GLSL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=410 %command%
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• 31[00:11:26] <trek00> deadmarshal: replaced-url
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• 42[00:16:33] <trek00> stinerman: it's the texture pixel format (like RGB888, ARGB8888, RGB565)
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• 45[00:17:31] <trek00> deadmarshal1: you got it?
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• 47[00:17:53] <deadmarshal1> trek00: I put those in launch options now another error. it says: runtime error! this application has requested the runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
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• 49[00:18:23] <trek00> deadmarshal1: may be it needs an hw feature your card is lacking, what game is?
• 50[00:18:54] <deadmarshal1> it's dirt showdown
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• 54[00:22:03] <trek00> deadmarshal1: i found a bug replaced-url
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• 56[00:23:58] <trek00> deadmarshal1: you could try to add LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose to the launcher to see error messages or can you try to launch the game from command line and see the error messages
• 57[00:24:59] <trek00> deadmarshal1: or you can ask to #steamlug
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• 62[00:26:13] <deadmarshal1> trek00: thanks, I'll see what I can do
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• 108[00:57:55] <ZaZaGX> !help
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• 110[00:58:34] <coruja> !ask
• 111[00:58:34] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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• 142[01:25:13] <sdhfk> can I *please* ask a question?
• 143[01:25:17] <sdhfk> I beg it of you
• 144[01:25:50] <annadane> you just did
• 145[01:25:58] <sdhfk> how do I ask another?
• 146[01:26:00] <sdhfk> which button?
• 147[01:26:04] <annadane> you're doing well so far
• 148[01:26:08] <sdhfk> I tried the report bug one, but nobody responded
• 149[01:26:13] <dvs> three's the limit! ;-)
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• 152[01:27:13] <rawtaz> darnit, he left
• 153[01:27:19] <rawtaz> well, here goes anyway: replaced-url
• 154[01:27:24] <sdhfk> no, it crashed
• 155[01:27:31] <rawtaz> sdhfk: that was for you ^
• 156[01:27:32] <sdhfk> that's why I am trying to ask
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• 158[01:27:47] <sdhfk> how do I uncrash google chrome
• 159[01:27:54] <sdhfk> when I open steam, it crashes
• 160[01:28:02] * sdhfk sees steam coming out of my computer
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• 162[01:28:20] <trek00> sdhfk: what gpu do you have?
• 163[01:28:27] <sdhfk> what is a gpu
• 164[01:28:36] <sdhfk> I have an intel cpu
• 165[01:28:40] <trek00> rawtaz: really good strip :)
• 166[01:28:46] <rawtaz> trek00: yeah :D
• 167[01:28:51] <sdhfk> and a nividia video card
• 168[01:29:47] <sdhfk> I have Debian jessie
• 169[01:30:27] <sdhfk> please?
• 170[01:30:32] <trek00> sdhfk: gpu is video card, anyway you can try to disable hardware acceleration under google chrome
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• 172[01:30:43] <sdhfk> where?
• 173[01:30:46] <sdhfk> how?
• 174[01:31:21] <trek00> sdhfk: i don't use chrome, but this could help you replaced-url
• 175[01:31:32] <sdhfk> I have a settings icon under chrome in the dock, but it doesn't have hardware acceleration
• 176[01:31:37] <sdhfk> nevermind
• 177[01:32:17] <sdhfk> it does not work
• 178[01:32:30] <sdhfk> now me screen turns black and steam comes out
• 179[01:32:37] <trek00> sdhfk: inside google chrome you should find ustomize
• 180[01:32:43] <sdhfk> I can't find steam in my dock anymore
• 181[01:32:45] <gcask> Hi! I'm upgrading a system from jessie to stretch (better late than never), and I'm having issue... My /var is a symlink into /home/var and apparently that's the cause... Anyone has ever experienced this?
• 182[01:33:34] <sdhfk> gcask, try stretching your cable. the bends in my hard drive cable caused issues when upgrading from windows to debian
• 183[01:33:43] <trek00> gcask: it an unusual configuration, but it should work anyway, what error messages yu get?
• 184[01:34:17] <gcask> trek00: Any process trying to access anything under /var gets a "permission denied" error.
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• 186[01:34:39] <sdhfk> try asking the system administrator to give you permission
• 187[01:34:44] <sdhfk> that works for me most of the time
• 188[01:34:48] <trek00> gcask: try to do ls -ld /home/var and paste the output
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• 190[01:35:21] <sdhfk> can you fix steam
• 191[01:35:26] <gcask> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 Jan 27 2018 /home/var
• 192[01:35:51] <trek00> sdhfk: not, i don't know it, but opening a terminal you could type steam to launch it
• 193[01:36:04] <sdhfk> it no work
• 194[01:36:09] * sdhfk will be angry
• 195[01:36:17] <trek00> gcask: and what if ls -ld /var
• 196[01:36:18] * sdhfk want to play
• 197[01:36:19] <gcask> trek00: I've done a few of my homework there. Permissions are fine, running the command via the CLI (same that systemd executes) under the correct user works.
• 198[01:36:32] <sdhfk> systemd sucks
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• 200[01:36:38] <gcask> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 17 2014 /var -> /home/var
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• 202[01:36:47] <trek00> sdhfk: dpkg -l | grep steam
• 203[01:36:50] <sdhfk> I heard that systemd is bad
• 204[01:36:54] <sdhfk> it no work
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• 206[01:37:02] <sdhfk> trek00, it use wine
• 207[01:37:18] <trek00> gcask: may be systemd does not like /var as a symlink
• 208[01:37:27] <gcask> Out of spite, I created a bind-mount /var2 into /home/var and edited the service and config of one daemon to point there... and it booted fine.
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• 210[01:37:46] <trek00> sdhfk: do you have issues with steam or wine?
• 211[01:37:55] <sdhfk> steam and chrome
• 212[01:37:55] <gcask> trek00: that's my conclusion. Now... Is there a way that I can switch /var to a bind-mount over ssh?
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• 214[01:38:06] <sdhfk> it comes out of my screen when I try to run
• 215[01:38:23] <sdhfk> steam
• 216[01:38:32] <sdhfk> it disappears and chrome goes black
• 217[01:38:58] <sdhfk> how do I keep steam from coming out of my screen long enough to play with it
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• 220[01:39:45] <trek00> gcask: I don't know, there are risks to have ssh no more running fine when playing with /var
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• 222[01:39:50] <joze> steam is a sign of overheating
• 223[01:40:19] <sdhfk> oh, and also when I run dmidecode (it said to do that on a website), it says command not found
• 224[01:40:19] <trek00> sdhfk: try to ask to #steamlug
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• 226[01:40:53] <geek1011> ,i dmidecode
• 227[01:40:54] <judd> Package dmidecode (utils, important) in buster/amd64: SMBIOS/DMI table decoder. Version: 3.2-1; Size: 60.8k; Installed: 201k; Homepage: replaced-url
• 228[01:41:00] <geek1011> sdhfk: sudo apt install dmidecode
• 229[01:41:04] <gcask> Yeah, thought as much. Any chance I can run in one of the 'degraded' boot mode with ssh and fix that up? I do not have physical access to the machine I might add.
• 230[01:41:16] <sdhfk> judd: do you know how to fix my issue
• 231[01:41:25] <sdhfk> judd, why you pm me
• 232[01:41:26] <judd> No package named 'you' was found in buster/amd64.
• 233[01:41:31] <trek00> gcask: I don't know, sorry
• 234[01:41:51] <sdhfk> judd: wtf is a hostmask, and why you tell me to get one
• 235[01:42:08] <veloce> So, it's been a looking time since I've compiled anything o Linux. I'm attempting to compile Icecast from source. When running 'make' I get the error: libxslt/xslt.h: no such file or directory
• 236[01:42:14] <sdhfk> judd, why you useless
• 237[01:42:15] <judd> No package named 'you' was found in buster/amd64.
• 238[01:42:21] <trek00> gcask: if I had physical access to the system I would mount it from an usb live stick and do: rm /var; mv /home/var /var
• 239[01:42:30] <veloce> I'm sure it's easy to point it to the right directory?
• 240[01:42:37] <sdhfk> judd, why firefox crash too
• 241[01:42:38] <judd> No package named 'firefox' was found in buster/amd64.
• 242[01:42:51] <sdhfk> firefox goes black too
• 243[01:42:56] <sdhfk> when steam opens
• 244[01:43:00] <veloce> Libxslt *is* installed. All of the dependencies are installed as far as I know.
• 245[01:43:05] <sdhfk> judd, why wine not work
• 246[01:43:23] <judd> No dependency chain found between packages wine and not in buster/amd64.
• 247[01:43:35] <sdhfk> judd, you are utterly useless, so fck off
• 248[01:43:40] <gcask> trek00: If I had physical access that's what I would do as well. But I don't :(
• 249[01:43:54] <trek00> gcask: but with a running system you can try to rm /var; mkdir /var; mount --bind /home/var /var
• 250[01:44:18] <trek00> gcask: high risks to get logged out and never log in again
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• 253[01:44:42] <gcask> Yeah... I'd like to avoid that.
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• 255[01:45:08] <geek1011> gcask: maybe try pivot_root: replaced-url
• 256[01:45:12] <trek00> sdhfk: judd is a bot, not a real person
• 257[01:45:21] <geek1011> gcask: it's a bit outdated, but it has the general idea
• 258[01:45:34] <gcask> Thanks a lot for helping out
• 259[01:45:35] <trek00> veloce may be with pkgconfig?
• 260[01:45:40] <sdhfk> trek00, you must be one too
• 261[01:45:44] <sdhfk> you are just as useless
• 262[01:46:03] <veloce> Trek00, I'll check that out
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• 264[01:46:57] <geek1011> veloce, do you have libxslt-dev installed?
• 265[01:47:01] <geek1011> ,i libxslt-dev
• 266[01:47:02] <judd> No package named 'libxslt-dev' was found in buster/amd64.
• 267[01:47:09] <geek1011> ,i libxslt1-dev
• 268[01:47:11] <judd> Package libxslt1-dev (libdevel, optional) in buster/amd64: XSLT 1.0 processing library - development kit. Version: 1.1.32-2; Size: 506.9k; Installed: 2441k; Homepage: replaced-url
• 269[01:47:35] <sdhfk> please help me
• 270[01:47:40] <sdhfk> my problem is simpler
• 271[01:47:47] <gcask> geek1011: oooh right on, thanks. ssh is still in runlevel 2 right?
• 272[01:47:47] <sdhfk> just stop steam from closing
• 273[01:48:03] <geek1011> gcask: existing connections should stay connected
• 274[01:48:43] <geek1011> gcask: also, try not to delete anything until you have to. that way, everything will still work if it fails
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• 276[01:49:00] <geek1011> gcask: if you have space, copy instead of move
• 277[01:49:22] <gcask> geek1011: hehe yeah, that's what I'm trying really hard to do here. Also it's not about resizing anything - it's really just about changing a symlink into a bind-mount.
• 278[01:49:40] <geek1011> yep, but the idea is the same
• 279[01:49:46] <veloce> I tried to install libxslt-dev without success. I'll try libxslt1-dev
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• 281[01:50:34] <geek1011> gcask: also, I suggest you have a static busybox binary around in case anything goes wrong
• 282[01:50:45] <sdhfk> please!!!!!
• 283[01:50:56] <sdhfk> I will die if I don't play a game tonight
• 284[01:51:17] <sdhfk> windows doesn't do this
• 285[01:51:29] <sdhfk> but stupid Debian overwrote it
• 286[01:51:52] <trek00> sdhfk: try to close any google chrome window and then launch steam
• 287[01:52:06] <sdhfk> I did
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• 289[01:52:17] <gcask> geek1011: So far so good. *insert intense sweat meme here*
• 290[01:52:57] <trek00> sdhfk: well what error messages it shows? what is the problem? may be i haven't understood it
• 291[01:53:10] <sdhfk> no error
• 292[01:53:17] <sdhfk> just go black and steam goes out
• 293[01:53:23] <sdhfk> of my screen
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• 295[01:53:45] <trek00> sdhfk: and this when? every time you launch steam?
• 296[01:53:53] <sdhfk> yes
• 297[01:54:06] <sdhfk> steam goes out and chrome and firefox and other stupid things go black
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• 299[01:54:12] <sdhfk> they didnt do that in windows
• 300[01:54:54] <trek00> sdhfk: well try to close all the firefox and chrome windows and only then try again to launch steam
• 301[01:54:59] <gcask> Oh. My. Goodness. Thank you so much.
• 302[01:55:01] <sdhfk> but when I installed line-nux it deleted my microsoft account from the login screen
• 303[01:55:09] <geek1011> gcask: did it work?
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• 306[01:55:26] <gcask> geek1011: looks like it.
• 307[01:56:02] <geek1011> gcask: good. I suggest you reboot if possible just to make sure things are cleaned up properly.
• 308[01:56:06] <veloce> Trek00 and geek1011: thank you the help, solved that error. Now I'm getting another..."dereferencing pointer to incomplete type 'xmlBuf"
• 309[01:56:13] <trek00> sdhfk: do you mean that you can't login on windows or you can't boot windows?
• 310[01:56:18] <gcask> Now... The entry described here: replaced-url
• 311[01:56:31] <gcask> That's what I want in my fstab for the mount to survive a reboot right?
• 312[01:56:38] <geek1011> veloce: that sounds like an old application; what are you trying to compile?
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• 314[01:57:14] <veloce> geek1011: Yeah, it's Icecast, an audio streaming server
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• 316[01:57:32] <geek1011> gcask: just to make sure, you are trying to bind mount /home/var on /var?
• 317[01:57:52] <geek1011> veloce: let me try compiling it, give me a moment
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• 319[01:58:26] <trek00> veloce: icecast2 is already packaged for debian if you need it
• 320[01:58:28] <gcask> geek1011: To be crystal clear: /home/var is the _real_ directory. /var was a symlink to it.
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• 322[01:58:50] <gcask> geek1011: now it's a bind mount to /home/var (so /var -> /home/var)
• 323[01:58:50] <geek1011> gcask: yes, and you now want it as a bind mount?
• 324[01:58:54] <gcask> yes
• 325[01:59:08] <geek1011> gcask: and /home is on a separate partition, or not?
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• 327[01:59:15] <gcask> yes
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• 329[01:59:33] <veloce> Trek00:. AH. That will make life a lot easier. Thank you.
• 330[01:59:59] <trek00> geek1011: do you have much free space on / ?
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• 333[02:00:07] <veloce> Trek00:. I'm giving up on compiling
• 334[02:00:25] <geek1011> gcask: so yes, something like that, but also add: "x-systemd.requires=/home,x-systemd.automount" to the options
• 335[02:00:35] <gcask> geek1011: nah, /home is my largest partition
• 336[02:00:54] <geek1011> gcask: that's to make sure it mounts after /home
• 337[02:01:05] <geek1011> gcask: what do you mean by it's your largest partition?
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• 341[02:01:43] <gcask> On my server, / is on /dev/root and /home on /dev/sda2
• 342[02:02:22] <geek1011> gcask: yes, but why would that matter?
• 343[02:02:31] <geek1011> veloce: I've gotten it to compile
• 344[02:02:50] <veloce> Trek00 and geek1011: thanks again.
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• 346[02:02:55] <gcask> geek1011: I dunno? You asked about my freespace on /?
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• 351[02:03:40] <geek1011> veloce: replaced-url
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• 354[02:03:58] <trek00> geek1011: sorry for my intrusion, veloce give up compiling and instead installed icecast2 package, gcask replied to you about freespace but I was asking about it
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• 358[02:04:24] <geek1011> gcask: oh, that doesn't matter for this
• 359[02:04:32] <geek1011> trek00: it's ok
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• 361[02:05:00] <geek1011> veloce: for future reference, apt install build-essential libvorbis-dev libxslt1-dev; ./configure; make; make install
• 362[02:05:04] <gcask> geek1011 trek00 haha ok. Thanks a ton both of you for the help <3
• 363[02:05:14] <geek1011> no problem
• 364[02:05:18] * geek1011 is going to make dinner now
• 365[02:05:22] <ZaZaGX> shit, i think i have a virus
• 366[02:05:36] <geek1011> lol, what is happening ZaZaGX?
• 367[02:05:54] <trek00> gcask: if you can snapshot your server, it could be a good idea in case you break it
• 368[02:06:05] <sdhfk> i got hundreds of virus on windows according to Avast, but it didn't do anything bad
• 369[02:06:23] <sdhfk> i got a bunch of spam, but no credit card was stolen
• 370[02:06:43] <ZaZaGX> i think a trojan horse virus was attach to my net code when i was surfing on something
• 371[02:06:51] <sdhfk> my friend told me Linux doesn't get virus, so that's why i installed it
• 372[02:07:12] <sdhfk> but now steam goes out so I think Linux and people are incompetent
• 373[02:07:15] <ZaZaGX> using a VPN over the Tor web browser
• 374[02:07:22] <veloce> geek1011: thanks again.
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• 376[02:07:30] <geek1011> veloce: no problem
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• 378[02:07:39] <geek1011> ZaZaGX: what exactly is happening?
• 379[02:07:49] * geek1011 will be back in an hour or two
• 380[02:07:59] <ZaZaGX> i'm getting paranoid
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• 382[02:08:03] <sdhfk> good riddance
• 383[02:08:12] <sdhfk> ZaZaGX: switch to DOS
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• 386[02:08:18] <sdhfk> it has no security issues now
• 387[02:08:22] <sdhfk> and doesn't work with tor
• 388[02:08:23] <ZaZaGX> isn't that worse?
• 389[02:08:25] <sdhfk> so no more virus
• 390[02:08:30] <sdhfk> no tor, no virus
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• 393[02:08:49] <ZaZaGX> i don't want to use Lynx virtual terminal browser, it has no pictures
• 394[02:08:58] <gcask> It survived reboot, everything is booting correctly! Appreciate it everyone <3
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• 400[02:09:22] <sdhfk> you have no pictuees
• 401[02:09:31] <ZaZaGX> well i mean images
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• 403[02:09:55] <ZaZaGX> I think the CIA or the FBI is onto me
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• 405[02:10:09] <sdhfk> the fbi is awesome
• 406[02:10:12] <sdhfk> unlike you
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• 408[02:10:31] <ZaZaGX> :(
• 409[02:10:37] <trek00> gcask: you simply added bind mount to fstab?
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• 411[02:11:31] <gcask> trek00: yeah after unlinking the symlink. turned it into a bind-mount, there, done.
• 412[02:11:44] <trek00> gcask: good!
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• 414[02:12:18] <gcask> trek00: yup! Now I can upgrade from stretch into buster ^^
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• 418[02:15:21] <ZaZaGX> well, i just formatted
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• 421[02:15:55] <rant> ZaZaGX: links2 does images
• 422[02:16:02] <trek00> ZaZaGX: it's always better if the threat is unknown
• 423[02:16:26] <rant> ZaZaGX: are you italian?
• 424[02:16:49] <ZaZaGX> no, i'm asian
• 425[02:17:02] <rant> ah, well then its the CIA
• 426[02:17:22] <rant> FBI = Forever Bothing Italians, CIA = Constantly Interrogating Asians
• 427[02:17:31] <ZaZaGX> i think rant is a FBI informant
• 428[02:17:48] <ZaZaGX> lurking on the freenodes
• 429[02:18:40] <trek00> ZaZaGX: we are all FBI employees here :)
• 430[02:18:45] <ZaZaGX> oh geez
• 431[02:18:58] <ZaZaGX> i spotted the feds
• 432[02:19:26] <ZaZaGX> if this was in real life and at defcon, i could win a prize if i spot a fed
• 433[02:20:22] <ZaZaGX> i think i might have FoxAcid 2.0 installed on my Debian
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• 435[02:22:57] <trek00> ZaZaGX: you should use a tor and browser on different systems and be sure the one with browser can't connect to the internet
• 436[02:23:36] <ZaZaGX> I was using a VPN over TOR
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• 445[02:28:32] <ZaZaGX> maybe i need to wipe down phyiscally
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• 452[02:33:59] <rant> ZaZaGX: always wipe front to back..
• 453[02:34:49] <ZaZaGX> no, i mean wipe, like erasing it forever
• 454[02:35:34] <ZaZaGX> man, i'm kind of pissed, ISP are working with the government and monitoring people. regardlessly if you have VPN and TOR
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• 479[02:57:17] <carlino3> what is the last stable linux kernel version?
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• 481[02:57:46] <carlino3> got a new server and i notice that is using 4.9.0-7-amd64, and found some vulnerabilities on CVE databases
• 482[02:57:53] <carlino3> what kernel should i install to be safe (for now) ?
• 483[02:58:35] <binaryhermit> security fixes should have been backported to the debian kernel as needed
• 484[02:59:33] <binaryhermit> I'd "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" unless someone can be more helpful than I am
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• 487[03:00:03] <binaryhermit> I'm hanging out at mcdonalds and packages.debian.org is blocked because heavyhanded censorship
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• 490[03:02:01] <carlino3> makes sense, who goes to mcdonalds to update his system lol
• 491[03:02:19] <binaryhermit> let me see if I can at least ssh tunnel through one of my servers, my laptop's got some... interesting software bugs unrelated to debian right now
• 492[03:02:55] <ZaZaGX> use a vpn
• 493[03:03:14] <ZaZaGX> unless thats blocked too
• 494[03:05:05] <binaryhermit> ...that's one of the sotftware bugs I was talking about
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• 497[03:05:16] <binaryhermit> but it's beyond the scope of this channel
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• 499[03:06:02] <binaryhermit> and also, 4.9 implies stretch, while buster has been out for a little over a month, you might want to consider migrating to it in the not-too-distant future
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• 501[03:06:35] <binaryhermit> (it should be fully supported for almost another year, though, and lts support might meet your needs for a couple years after that)
• 502[03:07:08] <carlino3> i want to do the best i can
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• 504[03:07:34] <ZaZaGX> oh, no idea. i just started using Debian 10. i just quit Ubuntu
• 505[03:07:39] <binaryhermit> it's fine to stay on stretch for now, it's just probably a good idea to start planning to move to buster
• 506[03:07:42] <ZaZaGX> for many years
• 507[03:08:33] <binaryhermit> then again, Solaris 12 is supported through like 2034 and I feel like it's a good idea to start planning how you're going to move away from it, so I'm "that guy"
• 508[03:09:03] <binaryhermit> (it seems like kinda a dead-ish platform that's dying more, but that's beyond the scope of this channel)
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• 511[03:09:32] <ZaZaGX> can't you go to starbucks and use the wifi instead?
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• 513[03:10:21] <binaryhermit> shrug
• 514[03:10:51] <binaryhermit> I also could go home if it was that important, or tether to my cell phone, or possibly other options
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• 518[03:12:30] <ZaZaGX> oh yeah, i guess you are looking for a quick fix via terminal
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• 522[03:14:44] <carlino3> well, i did the update and upgrade but i still seeing 4.9.x kernels in apt
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• 524[03:15:18] <ZaZaGX> are you using debian 9?
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• 526[03:15:50] <LtL> carlino3: update ; upgrade ; full-upgrade
• 527[03:16:08] <carlino3> honestly no idea, they just gave me a "debian server"
• 528[03:16:11] <ZaZaGX> I have kernel 4.19
• 529[03:16:16] <LtL> carlino3: not using ';' however
• 530[03:16:17] <carlino3> Linux server 4.9.0-7-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.110-3+deb9u2 (2018-08-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux
• 531[03:16:22] <carlino3> this is the output of uname --all
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• 536[03:17:39] <LtL> carlino3: did you run apt full-upgrade after the update, upgrade with a proper sources.list modification?
• 537[03:18:11] <carlino3> i didn't, i ran "apt update && apt upgrade"
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• 539[03:18:21] <carlino3> should i run full-upgrade now or do i have to modify sources.list?
• 540[03:18:36] <LtL> carlino3: you need full-upgrade at this stage
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• 543[03:19:21] <carlino3> ok, ill do
• 544[03:19:27] <LtL> carlino3: and yes, edit sources.lst pointng at buster before all of the aforementioned commands
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• 547[03:19:43] <carlino3> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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• 550[03:19:52] <carlino3> just outputs that
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• 554[03:20:26] <LtL> carlino3: did you edit /etc/apt/sources.list at all?
• 555[03:20:42] <LtL> !buster sources.list
• 556[03:20:42] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Buster" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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• 559[03:21:53] <LtL> carlino3: you may want to append non-free and contrib to each line, especially if you need firmwares
• 560[03:21:54] <carlino3> LtL, no
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• 562[03:22:20] <carlino3> what should i put there?
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• 567[03:24:57] <LtL> carlino3: exactly what dpkg said, appending contrib and non-free on each line, like i said. to be sure you get packages you may need that are not in main
• 568[03:25:53] <LtL> carlino3: -then- apt update apt upgrade and finally apt full-upgrade
• 569[03:26:15] <carlino3> let's see
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• 573[03:27:54] <carlino3> i did and the result is the same (after downloading some packages)
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• 575[03:28:23] <carlino3> just to be clear, what i'm trying to do is to update the kernel to the last version, since i found many vulnerabilities in CVE databases matching the current kernel version
• 576[03:28:35] <carlino3> should i install last debian version from a new ISO?
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• 580[03:29:32] <LtL> carlino3: you should have as of today, kernel 4.19.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.37-5+deb10u2 (2019-08-08)
• 581[03:30:05] <LtL> carlino3: no need to install from .iso. just modify sources.list
• 582[03:30:08] <trek00> carlino3: as you are using the oldstable, you will get the updates with some days of delay
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• 584[03:30:16] <carlino3> that is the last kernel version right?
• 585[03:30:21] <binaryhermit> matching cve vulnerabilities against version 4.9 of the linux kernel as provided by debian is useless
• 586[03:30:29] <carlino3> i have "Linux server 4.9.0-7-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.110-3+deb9u2 (2018-08-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux"
• 587[03:30:39] <binaryhermit> as the security fixes should have been backported
• 588[03:31:11] <dvs> carlino3, did you reboot after downloading the kernels?
• 589[03:31:15] <carlino3> binaryhermit: how can i be sure of that?
• 590[03:31:18] <carlino3> i'm a little paranoid
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• 592[03:31:39] <binaryhermit> shrug
• 593[03:32:15] <ZaZaGX> you could reinstall the iso. but its more work
• 594[03:32:16] <carlino3> dvs: i did not downloaded anything, i have the default config that came with the server
• 595[03:32:32] <carlino3> maybe i'm not understaning well how this works.
• 596[03:32:44] <carlino3> does each distro develop his own version of the linux kernel?
• 597[03:32:49] <LtL> carlino3: as dvs mentioned did you reboot? a stretch to buster dist-upgrade involves hundreds of packages
• 598[03:32:50] <dvs> yes
• 599[03:33:12] <trek00> carlino3: with the security-tracker you can put the bug like CVE-2019-13272 and check if it is vulnerable or fixed replaced-url
• 600[03:33:25] <ZaZaGX> yes
• 601[03:33:31] <carlino3> ohh, great
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• 605[03:34:16] <carlino3> i thought that all distros used the same linux kernel source
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• 607[03:34:33] <ZaZaGX> each distro maintains and dist differently
• 608[03:34:41] <carlino3> so the same kernel version could have a vulnerability patched in one distro but unpatched in another?
• 609[03:34:50] <ZaZaGX> yup
• 610[03:35:04] <trek00> carlino3: yes but for each major version (like 4.9 or 4.19) they gets an updated minor version (4.9.128 or 4.19.37)
• 611[03:35:11] <carlino3> that is a little confusing
• 612[03:35:27] <jim> carlino3, it starts out being the same as what you can get from (say) kernel.org... but then, some dists try to fix issues with the kernel
• 613[03:35:38] <carlino3> i will reboot and see what happens
• 614[03:35:43] <LtL> carlino3: replaced-url
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• 623[03:39:17] <carlino3> rebooted and the same results
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• 627[03:41:01] <LtL> carlino3: your /etc/apt/sources.list cannot be correct.
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• 631[03:42:04] <carlino3> let me check
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• 634[03:45:45] <carlino3> LtL: replaced-url
• 635[03:46:01] <jim> you could show it to us: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
• 636[03:46:45] <dvs> carlino3, you only need three lines! There are multiple repeats in there.
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• 639[03:47:49] <LtL> carlino3: use this add stuff later, yours is just wrong. replaced-url
• 640[03:48:44] <LtL> carlino3: you are updating to buster, right?
• 641[03:48:45] <dvs> carlino3, and it still specified stretch
• 642[03:48:46] <carlino3> LtL: i have stretch, does that matters?
• 643[03:48:54] <dvs> absooutely!
• 644[03:49:05] <dvs> that's the reason why you're not getting new pakcages
• 645[03:49:15] <LtL> hell yeah replaced-url
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• 648[03:49:58] <carlino3> ok, now it is downloading new packages :)
• 649[03:50:05] <dvs> ...
• 650[03:50:25] <carlino3> just to let it clear, what are the differneces between stretch, wheezy, buster and so on?
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• 652[03:50:42] <dvs> carlino3, debian 8, debian 9, debian 10, etc
• 653[03:50:42] <ZaZaGX> they are different toy story charcters
• 654[03:50:52] <ZaZaGX> characters
• 655[03:50:53] <LtL> carlino3: version 8, 9, 10
• 656[03:51:09] <ZaZaGX> that too
• 657[03:51:14] <LtL> excuse me, i left out jessie
• 658[03:52:30] <carlino3> toy story characters? really?
• 659[03:52:34] <carlino3> lol
• 660[03:52:45] <LtL> carlino3: have a beer, it'll be awhile
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• 663[03:53:19] <ZaZaGX> yeah, they named them after toy story characters
• 664[03:53:41] <ZaZaGX> Buster is Debian 10, and he is Andy's toy dog
• 665[03:53:47] <carlino3> didn't notice that detail
• 666[03:53:55] <dvs> ZaZaGX, no, buster is the REAL dog
• 667[03:54:07] <carlino3> so basically i'm updating to debian 10
• 668[03:54:09] <carlino3> understood
• 669[03:54:13] <dvs> carlino3, that's the MOST important detail
• 670[03:54:33] <LtL> yes carlino3 10, buster
• 671[03:54:34] <dvs> ZaZaGX, slink is the toy dog
• 672[03:55:02] <ZaZaGX> oh crap, i thought he was the slinkee dog
• 673[03:55:27] <dvs> !buster
• 674[03:55:27] <dpkg> Buster is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 10, released 2019-07-06. "Buster" is Andy's pet Dachsund in Toy Story, see replaced-url
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• 676[03:57:03] <ZaZaGX> my friend wants to sell his macbook air model 2015, i believe he needs more money for crack
• 677[03:58:26] <carlino3> what should i answer to question like "a new version of xxx.conf is available: install package mantainer version, keep current version, etc"
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• 680[03:59:02] <dvs> carlino3, chances are you want to keep the existing version.
• 681[03:59:17] <carlino3> i choosed "install mantainer version"
• 682[03:59:24] <carlino3> hope that i didn't broke anything
• 683[03:59:35] <dvs> ...
• 684[04:00:11] <carlino3> ok, now i see linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64 as the latest kernel version for my architecture
• 685[04:00:27] <carlino3> installing that package is enough or do i have to configure it?
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• 687[04:00:35] <trek00> carlino3: you will get old config files named like *.dpkg-old
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• 689[04:00:39] <geek1011> ,v linux-image-amd64
• 690[04:00:40] <judd> Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63+deb8u2; jessie-security: 3.16+63+deb8u6; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u7; stretch-proposed-updates: 4.9+80+deb9u8; stretch-backports: 4.19+105~bpo9+1; bullseye: 4.19+105; buster: 4.19+105; sid: 5.2+106
• 691[04:01:06] <carlino3> geek1011: sorry, what do you mean by that?
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• 693[04:01:17] <geek1011> just checking
• 694[04:01:53] <ksk> carlino3: check the release notes - sometimes configurations for things change (daemons most likely) - in general keep the original, or take a quick look at the diff (depending on size..)
• 695[04:02:13] <carlino3> i will see if something fails later xD
• 696[04:02:16] <ksk> talking about release-upgrades here, not a normal "apt upgrade" inside one release.
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• 698[04:02:27] <carlino3> now, i have the last kernel package installed. how do i use that kernel instead of the old one?
• 699[04:02:36] <dvs> carlino3, reboo
• 700[04:02:38] <dvs> t
• 701[04:02:42] <carlino3> thanks
• 702[04:02:47] <ksk> dpkg/update-grub should have done that automagicly, just reboot.
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• 704[04:04:53] <carlino3> root@server:~# uname --allLinux server 4.19.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.37-5+deb10u2 (2019-08-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux
• 705[04:04:59] <carlino3> thanks to all!!
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• 707[04:05:18] <carlino3> now i feel a bit safer
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• 709[04:05:36] <ZaZaGX> lol
• 710[04:05:44] <dvs> ???
• 711[04:06:20] <carlino3> what is funny?
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• 714[04:08:31] <LtL> carlino3: uname -a is quicker, and yours is fine.
• 715[04:09:32] <carlino3> i won't loose a finger for tyiping 2 extra characters lol
• 716[04:10:15] <LtL> carlino3: to be certain, type 'lsb_release -a'
• 717[04:10:32] <carlino3> Distributor ID: DebianDescription: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)Release: 10Codename: buster
• 718[04:10:38] <carlino3> all ok :)
• 719[04:10:47] <trek00> yes :)
• 720[04:10:49] <LtL> carlino3: good to go
• 721[04:11:07] <dvs> except for the replaces config!!
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• 723[04:11:19] <carlino3> for the moment, nothing weird has happened
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• 727[04:11:45] <trek00> carlino3: you can check them with find /etc -iname "*.dpkg*"
• 728[04:12:19] <carlino3> just two config files
• 729[04:12:29] <carlino3> vmware-tools and ca-certificates
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• 731[04:12:51] <carlino3> first one is related to virtualization system, second one sounds more serious
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• 733[04:13:09] <carlino3> should i check those config files?
• 734[04:13:17] <dvs> carlino3, what is the exact filename of the ca-certificates file?
• 735[04:13:21] <trek00> carlino3: well you are warned, if you get something strange with vmware or ssl connections, check these files
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• 738[04:15:39] <carlino3> oijo
• 739[04:15:46] <carlino3> . /etc/ca-certificates.conf
• 740[04:15:54] <Abdullah> Eid Al-Azha Mabrook to all Muslims.
• 741[04:16:07] <dvs> carlino3, the one with the "dpkg" extension
• 742[04:16:16] <carlino3> that file
• 743[04:16:21] <carlino3> just with dpkg extension
• 744[04:16:31] <dvs> carlino3, what is the dpkg extension?
• 745[04:16:39] <carlino3> dpkg-old
• 746[04:16:40] <dvs> it's not just dpkg
• 747[04:16:52] <carlino3> that is the replaced file
• 748[04:16:55] <carlino3> should i restore it?
• 749[04:17:04] <dvs> carlino3, ah, the one with the dpkg-old can be erased. You installed the new version
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• 751[04:17:14] <dvs> to ca-certificates
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• 799[05:09:41] <EoflaOE> Hi ZaZaGX
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• 804[05:15:45] <ZaZaGX> oh so late lo
• 805[05:15:55] <ZaZaGX> you use debian now?
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• 809[05:16:46] <EoflaOE> No, still Ubuntu. However I have a Debian VM on my new PC.
• 810[05:16:57] <dvs> !lart EoflaOE
• 811[05:16:58] * dpkg steals EoflaOE's mojo
• 812[05:17:25] <Abdullah> How to download a kernel for testing?
• 813[05:17:42] <binaryhermit> Could be worse I use Chrome OS on the desktop
• 814[05:17:49] <EoflaOE> dvs: Lol.
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• 816[05:18:12] <binaryhermit> !lart binaryhermit
• 817[05:18:13] * dpkg puts binaryhermit into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of binaryhermit's hair of
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• 819[05:19:22] <dvs> of?
• 820[05:19:54] <rant> dpkg cmd: lart $1 =~ s/hair of/hair off/
• 821[05:19:54] <dpkg> i didn't have anything called 'cmd: lart $1' to modify, rant
• 822[05:20:10] <rant> dpkg cmd: lart (.*?) =~ s/hair of/hair off/
• 823[05:20:10] <dpkg> rant: i didn't have anything called 'cmd: lart (.*?)' to modify
• 824[05:20:18] <rant> we'll talk about that later :P
• 825[05:20:33] <rant> dpkg, yinzersmite myself
• 826[05:20:34] * dpkg rode myself dahntahn ta go gall-a-vantin' da norside wif a Gian Iggle buggy like da rest of da bums.
• 827[05:21:17] <rant> either lart isn't a factoid, or I forgot how to work it.
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• 829[05:21:27] <ZaZaGX> nice
• 830[05:21:40] <ZaZaGX> i quit Ubuntu. I'm using the Debian 10 now
• 831[05:21:48] <dvs> rant, it's a weird factoid. It has several replies
• 832[05:22:00] <rant> so does my yinzersmite
• 833[05:22:04] <dvs> !prize ZaZaGX
• 834[05:22:04] * dpkg gives ZaZaGX a medal.
• 835[05:22:22] <trek00> i want a medal too :)
• 836[05:22:54] <ZaZaGX> omg, i got a medal and a cookie!
• 837[05:22:56] <rant> dpkg, cmd: yinzersmite (.*?) =~ s/wif/wit/
• 838[05:22:56] <dpkg> rant: OK
• 839[05:23:04] <rant> as you can see it works on my yinzersmite
• 840[05:23:23] <rant> which is a randomized multi-response factoid
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• 842[05:24:30] <rant> its possible lart is a link
• 843[05:24:55] <rant> dpkg, literal lart
• 844[05:24:55] <dpkg> "lart" is "<reply> (I can't believe you don't know what a lart is!|Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool; otherwise known as a Big Fucking Stick)"
• 845[05:25:17] <dvs> see? that's not it
• 846[05:25:24] <rant> dpkg, literal cmd: lart (.*?)
• 847[05:25:25] <dpkg> i don't know, rant
• 848[05:25:35] <rant> its apparently a built in command not a factoid
• 849[05:25:50] <errolllbj2> ‏what the heck
• 850[05:26:36] <ZaZaGX> a big stick eh?
• 851[05:26:50] <rant> dpkg, literal cmd: yinzersmite
• 852[05:26:51] <dpkg> rant: I wish you would RTFM.
• 853[05:26:56] <errolllbj2> ‏didn't find any refrence in syslog though
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• 855[05:27:27] <rant> errolllbj2: ?
• 856[05:27:29] <errolllbj2> ‏nothing to lead me to trubleshoot this shit .. so i simply downgrade it again
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• 860[05:28:27] <n0a110w_> no more cherrytree app in the buster repo? :(
• 861[05:28:42] <rant> ,v cherrytree
• 862[05:28:44] <judd> Package: cherrytree on amd64 -- jessie: 0.35.2-1; stretch: 0.37.6-1; sid: 0.37.6-1.1
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• 864[05:29:13] <rant> ,depends cherrytree
• 865[05:29:14] <judd> No package named 'cherrytree' was found in buster/amd64.
• 866[05:29:25] <rant> ,depends cherrytree --suite sid
• 867[05:29:26] <judd> (depends <packagename> [--arch <amd64>] [--release <stable>]) -- Show the packages that are listed as 'Depends' for a given package. By default, the current stable release and amd64 are used.
• 868[05:29:33] <rant> ,depends cherrytree --release sid
• 869[05:29:34] <judd> Package cherrytree in sid/amd64 -- depends: p7zip-full, python-dbus, python-enchant, python-chardet, python-gtk2 (>= 2.16), python-gtksourceview2, python:any (<< 2.8), python:any (>= 2.7.5-5~).
• 870[05:29:38] <n0a110w_> neato
• 871[05:29:42] <Abdullah> 11.3 How do I load a console font on startup the Debian way?
• 872[05:29:48] <Abdullah> The kbd package supports this, edit the /etc/kbd/config file.
• 873[05:29:55] <Abdullah> This directory isn't there
• 874[05:30:13] <rant> n0a110w_: you could manually download it from the repo it would seem, all deps are satisfied in buster..
• 875[05:30:21] <rant> !why is cherrytree not in testing?
• 876[05:30:21] <dpkg> cherrytree is not in testing for the reasons listed in replaced-url
• 877[05:30:30] <Abdullah> and AFAIK it isn't responsible for that purpose. I think I added something else to change fonts on console at boot
• 878[05:31:11] <rant> dpkg, console font?
• 879[05:31:11] <dpkg> If your console fonts settings have been changed, you can reset them using the consolechars command (console-tools package). The default font is default 8x*. dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
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• 881[05:31:38] <n0a110w_> thanks rant
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• 885[05:35:25] <rant> n0a110w_: just download it from packages.debian.org and install it with dpkg -i using either the stretch or sid version
• 886[05:36:00] <rant> there are links to the package on the package page replaced-url
• 887[05:36:02] <Abdullah> yeah console-setup is responsible for that.
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• 889[05:36:35] <Abdullah> rant: Is packages.debian.org supported by debian?
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• 891[05:36:58] <rant> Abdullah: its the official package information page its on debian.org..
• 892[05:37:13] <Abdullah> oh yeah its a subdomain
• 893[05:37:18] <rant> Abdullah: this is a niche case.. because all the dependencies of the package are satisfied
• 894[05:37:26] <rant> this isn't always a proper solution to such issues
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• 896[05:37:40] <Abdullah> apt knows how to solve dependencies
• 897[05:37:46] <rant> and really more proper, but also more involved would be pinning
• 898[05:37:55] <rant> pinning would allow updates
• 899[05:38:25] <rant> yes but it trying to resolve the dependencies in most case will result in frankendebian or a broken system
• 900[05:38:40] <rant> in this case the only two deps with any version are python-gtk2 and python
• 901[05:38:44] <rant> ,v python
• 902[05:38:45] <judd> Package: python on amd64 -- jessie: 2.7.9-1; stretch: 2.7.13-2; bullseye: 2.7.16-1; buster: 2.7.16-1; sid: 2.7.16-1
• 903[05:38:48] <rant> ,v python-gtk2
• 904[05:38:49] <judd> Package: python-gtk2 on amd64 -- jessie: 2.24.0-4; stretch: 2.24.0-5.1; buster: 2.24.0-5.1+b1; bullseye: 2.24.0-6; sid: 2.24.0-6
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• 906[05:39:14] <rant> hmm
• 907[05:39:23] <rant> ,depends cherrytree --release stretch
• 908[05:39:24] <judd> Package cherrytree in stretch/amd64 -- depends: p7zip-full, python-appindicator, python-dbus, python-enchant, python-chardet, python-gtk2 (>= 2.16), python-gtksourceview2, python:any (<< 2.8), python:any (>= 2.7.5-5~).
• 909[05:39:49] <rant> as you can see above, buster satisfies those two versioned dependencies
• 910[05:40:10] <rant> so this is a rare case where you can install a stretch or sid version without issues
• 911[05:40:42] <rant> other methods include a simple sid backport, a chroot, a docker image, pinning, etc..
• 912[05:41:00] <rant> which one is safest or sanest depends on the package in quesiton and the needs of the user
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• 915[05:41:32] <carlino3> i'm adding an user to "sudo" group
• 916[05:41:38] <rant> you can do a generic check do see if you can simple sid backport with the bot as well
• 917[05:41:39] <carlino3> adduser username sudo
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• 919[05:41:55] <carlino3> but when trying to run command as super user, it complains that the user is not in sudoers file
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• 921[05:41:58] <carlino3> what i'm doing wrong?
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• 923[05:42:27] <rant> carlino3: that group depends on two things.. actual membership and a rule for the group
• 924[05:42:33] <rant> carlino3: type groups in the terminal
• 925[05:42:49] <rant> carlino3: group memberships do not take affect while logged in
• 926[05:43:13] <n0a110w_> i needed to install python-gtksourceview2 manually first, then installing cherrytree manually worked
• 927[05:43:29] <rant> or you just use gdebi
• 928[05:43:47] <rant> n0a110w_: gdebi is a more advanced tool for manual installs that can resolve dependencies like apt
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• 930[05:43:57] <n0a110w_> o yeah?
• 931[05:43:58] <rant> has both a command line and gui interface
• 932[05:44:02] <rant> ,i gdebi
• 933[05:44:03] <judd> Package gdebi (admin, optional) in buster/amd64: simple tool to view and install deb files - GNOME GUI. Version: 0.9.5.7+nmu3; Size: 40.1k; Installed: 169k; Screenshot: replaced-url
• 934[05:44:15] <n0a110w_> good to know, will check it out
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• 936[05:45:10] <rant> n0a110w_: if you want that app to be able to recieve updates you'd have to add a source for the branch you got it from and pin it so you dont accidentally pull other stuff from that source
• 937[05:45:14] <rant> dpkg, pinning?
• 938[05:45:14] <dpkg> Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at replaced-url
• 939[05:45:15] <carlino3> rant: you are right, logged in again and worked. sorry for being so stupid :P
• 940[05:45:44] <rant> carlino3: its a common mistake
• 941[05:45:51] <rant> carlino3: you can also do something like su - user
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• 943[05:46:10] <rant> carlino3: which creates a "login" shell making the group membership take effect
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• 945[05:46:18] <rant> but only within that shell
• 946[05:46:36] <carlino3> good to know, thanks
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• 961[05:54:27] <Abdullah> Actually I have a new installation. and I don't use grub or any other extra boot[manager]. So I wanna check if new kernel is gonna pick the scripts I have in /etc/{kernel,initramfs}
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• 963[05:54:41] <Abdullah> so I wanna downgrade to a kernel just to see that.j
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• 976[06:03:48] <rant> o.O
• 977[06:03:58] <rant> I don't think you know what you're talking about :D
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• 981[06:07:45] <rant> grub isn't a boot manager its a bootloader.. and no machine boots without one just many systems you don't know its there
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• 984[06:08:04] <rant> NTLDR or such on Windows typically is never seen in any way
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• 986[06:08:14] <rant> uboot on arm machines is usually not seen
• 987[06:08:33] <rant> but regardless you always have a bootloader or you dont have a bootable system
• 988[06:09:00] <rant> its not an extra anything, its a required component
• 989[06:09:05] <alkisg> rant: I think abdullah was using uefi directly to boot debian
• 990[06:09:13] <alkisg> Someone here did, I think it was him
• 991[06:09:29] <rant> if thats even possible I am not aware of it :D
• 992[06:09:30] <alkisg> With grub completely uninstalled, and using efi vars to set the kernel cmdline
• 993[06:09:41] <rant> but I am still rather blissfully ignorant to uefi
• 994[06:09:52] <rant> I disabled it in every way possible on my system
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• 999[06:11:06] <rant> and even if thats a thing, you still have a bootloader, its just in firmware
• 1000[06:11:26] <alkisg> True, bios was a bootloader too, it loaded sector 0 into ram
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• 1030[06:29:52] <trek00> interesting, apt pinning could require architecture to be specified in apt_preferences but it is not described in man nor wiki, but there is a bug opened at least :) #881063
• 1031[06:29:53] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 1054[06:46:59] <Abdullah> rebooted to linux 5.2 with secure boot enabled with no extra boot manager without a problem.
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• 1058[06:48:09] <Abdullah> rant: don't underestimate people here. Just fuck your ass if you can't help people here. You don't deserver this channel. Don't make people hate #debian
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• 1061[06:48:35] <annadane> on KDE, when i go to startup and shutdown and try to set autostart programs, when i click enable on certain programs (these are .desktop files) there isn't an "apply" option in the lower right hand corner, so i can't set associations... i'd installed kde-plasma-desktop which is a minimal version of KDE, do i need some other package for this?
• 1062[06:48:57] <annadane> not "associations" but i mean i can't set programs to autostart
• 1063[06:49:21] <Abdullah> I use dwm with minimal packages so can't say something
• 1064[06:49:39] <Abdullah> which app you wanna autostart at boot btw?
• 1065[06:49:50] <annadane> redshift and qbittorrent
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• 1067[06:50:01] <annadane> but that shouldn't matter
• 1068[06:50:06] <Abdullah> not sure about qbittorent but
• 1069[06:50:12] <rant> Abdullah: well I'll tell you the same thing I told a girlfriend who suggested such a thing.. I tried.. it doesn't work.. if its soft enough to bend that way, it won't go in, and if its hard enough to go in, it won't bend that way.. but thanks for the suggestion
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• 1071[06:50:22] <Abdullah> I also use redshift and I autostart it from .xprofile
• 1072[06:50:42] <annadane> i guess but why have a GUI option to do it and then not be able to do it
• 1073[06:51:13] <Abdullah> rant: Try vaseline
• 1074[06:51:40] <rant> Abdullah: I'm not really all that interested.. but I'll keep that in mind
• 1075[06:52:25] <trek00> annadane: may be double click on .desktop file will set associations too?
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• 1079[06:53:22] <annadane> and so i'm reminded of my main annoyance of KDE, too many menus...
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• 1081[06:53:55] <annadane> the Apply button is even there on other windows but this one just disappears and if i click enable on those .desktop files it goes away once i switch tabs
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• 1084[06:55:02] <annadane> hopefully this isn't a bug, there were some fairly baffling bugs on 5.8 for being the 8th point release, i hope it isn't the case on 5.14
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• 1087[06:56:12] <annadane> should i just install via the task... might fill in potential missing packages
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• 1089[06:56:25] <annadane> but i kinda doubt it's that
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• 1091[06:57:54] <SerajewelKS> what's the standard way to tell the kernel "please reboot the machine but don't bother shutting down any processes, just please ask the motherboard to reboot right the fuck now"
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• 1094[06:58:25] <SerajewelKS> looks like there was a crash in the ext4 module and no disk I/O works now, somehow i got root as a miracle
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• 1097[06:58:36] <Abdullah> SerajewelKS: I do reboot -f but all processes will be gone.
• 1098[06:59:13] <SerajewelKS> Abdullah: perfect, thanks. i forgot about that.
• 1099[06:59:14] <trek00> SerajewelKS: reboot -f
• 1100[06:59:36] <SerajewelKS> nothing is going to shut down gracefully anyway as the ext4 module appears to not want to do anything anymore so half the processes are stuck in state D
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• 1111[07:03:16] <Terminator000> hello
• 1112[07:03:37] <SerajewelKS> ehm... after running "reboot -f" is it possible for any processes to be running?
• 1113[07:03:54] <SerajewelKS> sshd is not responding but the server monitoring daemon appears to be running still and is sending stats off-host!?
• 1114[07:05:09] <SerajewelKS> nevermind, the monitoring agent claims the server was just rebooted. but sshd still isn't up. guess i just get to wait.
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• 1116[07:06:11] <SerajewelKS> bleh why does this crap always happen at midnight
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• 1120[07:07:18] <Terminator000> installed debian on my laptop today and im liking it so far :D
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• 1124[07:08:32] <rant> I installed Debian back in like 2002 and I'm liking it so far :D
• 1125[07:08:50] <Terminator000> lol
• 1126[07:09:20] <Terminator000> how is everyone doing?
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• 1131[07:11:39] <deego> rant: same. I remember woody and potato from back in the day
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• 1133[07:12:03] <deego> i mean, it's early days, let's see if it lasts
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• 1135[07:12:54] <rant> yeah I'd burned 3cds of 2.2r6 Potato and installed.. then shortly after Woody released
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• 1139[07:14:01] <deego> heh, yes, didn't it use to fit on a few small floppies just before they moved to cds? or was that something else?
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• 1148[07:19:07] <rant> idk.. I wasn't using debian before potato.. but I know Linux orignally was on floppies
• 1149[07:19:21] <rant> but that was more than 20 years ago
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• 1151[07:19:53] <rant> I think the first couple versions of the linux kernel only worked on floppies actually
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• 1170[07:32:01] <annadane> okay so i found a window with an apply button, "autostart" and not just "startup and shutdown", but if i click enable on the programs i want the apply button is greyed out and pressing "ok" doesn't save the option
• 1171[07:32:32] <annadane> urge to kill, rising
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• 1175[07:34:18] <annadane> should just stick to lxqt and be done with it
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• 1177[07:34:42] <Terminator000> or use gnome :P
• 1178[07:35:32] <annadane> ehhhhh
• 1179[07:35:52] <Terminator000> yeah im the weird one who actually likes it lol
• 1180[07:35:59] <annadane> idk it's really not a good look for KDE when basic options don't work
• 1181[07:36:08] <annadane> that's my issue with it
• 1182[07:36:20] <annadane> fantastic idea, kind of inconsistent performance
• 1183[07:36:25] <annadane> unless this is a debian issue
• 1184[07:36:30] <Terminator000> never used kde before
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• 1191[07:41:39] <annadane> okay well i'm filing a bug then
• 1192[07:41:42] <annadane> hopefully fixed in 10.1
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• 1281[08:50:44] <bobbyperu> Is it possible to install and boot Debian off of a spare HDD in my machine? It has an MBR scheme and I've tried to partition and mount, but when selecting to boot it from the BIOS, it only goes back to the BIOS after a few seconds
• 1282[08:51:48] <ZaZaGX> i'm not sure
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• 1284[08:51:59] <ZaZaGX> have you try a live usb flash drive of the iso?
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• 1286[08:52:20] <bobbyperu> I'm running off of the live install right now
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• 1291[08:54:16] <bobbyperu> I added a 256 MiB linuxswap partition marked with swap and no mount point. Another 256 MiB fat32 market with esp, boot, legacy-boot, and /boot/efi mount point, and another large ext4 with / mount point. I thought that was the correct way
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• 1296[08:55:54] <diogenes_> bobbyperu, why don't you just use the live installer and install it to that hdd?
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• 1298[08:56:43] <bobbyperu> That's what I'm doing, but it refuses to boot correctly which is what I'm trying to understand
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• 1300[08:57:14] <diogenes_> bobbyperu, if it's uefi, make sure to format hdd as gpt.
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• 1305[08:58:00] <diogenes_> after that just let the installer create partitions automatically.
• 1306[08:58:29] <bobbyperu> the problem is that there's other data on the drive, and the installer doesnt want to use only the unpartitioned space, it wants to erase all of it
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• 1308[08:59:13] <diogenes_> bobbyperu, of course it wants to erase it because it's mbr and yo're booting with uefi.
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• 1310[09:00:07] <alkisg> bobbyperu: mbr and efi? That can't really work
• 1311[09:00:16] <alkisg> If you want BIOS, don't use an EFI partition
• 1312[09:00:23] <alkisg> And, note there's a limit of 4 primary partitions for BIOS
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• 1314[09:00:37] <alkisg> Pastebin the output of parted -l or fdisk -l or something...
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• 1316[09:00:48] <bobbyperu> ok hold on
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• 1324[09:05:19] <bobbyperu> alkisg, replaced-url
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• 1329[09:06:12] <alkisg> bobbyperu: you hit the limit of "4 primary partitions". Delete the "efi" one, as it's BIOS/MBR so you don't need it
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• 1335[09:09:08] <bobbyperu> alkisg, ok i'll try that. thanks
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• 1339[09:10:20] <Abdullah> debian default installation creates an extra partition with ext2.
• 1340[09:10:28] <Abdullah> on an EFI system.
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• 1344[09:10:49] <alkisg> You mean vfat?
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• 1347[09:11:10] <Abdullah> It didn't delete the EFI partition so I had to delete the one with ext2 filesystem on it
• 1348[09:11:37] <Abdullah> alkisg: vfat/fat is the first partition (EFI)
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• 1354[09:13:40] <Abdullah> alkisg: replaced-url
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• 1357[09:15:31] <Abdullah> I went with netinstall iso, chose expert install, selected encrypted install with manual partitioning.
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• 1360[09:16:13] <Abdullah> it created some extra partition with ext2 which was useless for me. so I tried to delete it but then installer was fucked up.
• 1361[09:16:33] <Abdullah> so I got a shell, created partitions, installed debian
• 1362[09:17:09] <Abdullah> I don't use grub or other boot managers so I don't need another extra partition
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• 1366[09:17:43] <Abdullah> I think they do create an extra partition for the sake of windows lusers who wanna try dual boot.
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• 1385[09:25:11] <alkisg> Abdullah: UEFI requires vfat to boot; and that's the same whether you use linux, windows, grub or not, or any combination of them
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• 1387[09:25:34] <alkisg> If the installer created ext2 instead, that would be a bug, but not related to windows users, as they don't read ext2 anyway
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• 1390[09:26:09] <Abdullah> alkisg: I think creating ext2 isn't a bug.
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• 1392[09:26:17] <alkisg> UEFI can't read ext2
• 1393[09:26:23] <alkisg> So it can't boot from there
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• 1395[09:26:51] <Abdullah> I understand that. well, they create ext2 and then mount EFI partition there.
• 1396[09:27:23] <alkisg> Creating ext2 for /boot and creating vfat for /boot/efi isn't a bug; but vfat is needed
• 1397[09:28:01] <Abdullah> lemme check my fstab. I hope I have left those line commented there
• 1398[09:28:15] <Abdullah> vfat they didn't created but also didn't delete it.
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• 1400[09:28:42] <Abdullah> vfat was EFI partition there and I still had binaries from old installation there.
• 1401[09:28:42] <alkisg> If you already had a vfat, it wouldn't need to create an additional one
• 1402[09:28:46] <humpled> haven't yet handled a machine new enough to use uefi
• 1403[09:29:49] <alkisg> In any case, when I commented on the following, I meant "vfat is needed"; you already had vfat, so no further comment from me :) (10:10:20 AM) Abdullah: debian default installation creates an extra partition with ext2.
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• 1405[09:30:13] <alkisg> I think ext2 /boot gets created for lvm, but I'm not using lvm so I'm not sure
• 1406[09:30:14] <Abdullah> alkisg: replaced-url
• 1407[09:30:25] <alkisg> I'm sure that debian didn't create ext2 for me, when NOT using lvm
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• 1411[09:30:54] <Abdullah> alkisg: yeah I was having lvm encrypted so maybe it was only in that case.
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• 1414[09:32:03] <Abdullah> line 10 which is commented now.
• 1415[09:32:18] <Abdullah> They mounted EFI there, as /boot/efi
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• 1417[09:32:58] <Abdullah> I put the vmlinuz and initrd.img in UFI so it is auto picked when there is an entry in EFI for them.
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• 1506[10:22:56] <ZaZaGX> i love debian
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• 1510[10:24:11] <zleap> ZaZaGX::)
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• 1512[10:24:38] <ZaZaGX> i was going to say ubuntu
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• 1514[10:24:52] <ZaZaGX> but its not
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• 1517[10:25:02] <zleap> ok
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• 1519[10:25:22] <zleap> so do you prefer debian or ubuntu?
• 1520[10:25:29] <ZaZaGX> debian
• 1521[10:25:54] <ZaZaGX> i just installed debian not so long ago lol
• 1522[10:26:08] <zleap> i switched to debian from Mint
• 1523[10:26:19] <ZaZaGX> been using red hat, ubuntu and chrome os for years
• 1524[10:26:23] <diogenes_> debianophille :)
• 1525[10:26:29] <zleap> so kinda miss the tool thing for changing the hardware driver
• 1526[10:26:38] <zleap> cvf
• 1527[10:26:48] <zleap> brb
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• 1534[10:27:16] <zleap> back
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• 1536[10:27:33] <zleap> how do you find chromium works on debian 10
• 1537[10:27:45] <zleap> i seem to be having issues with scratch being very slow
• 1538[10:28:13] <ZaZaGX> you install it?
• 1539[10:28:21] <zleap> i have
• 1540[10:28:31] <ZaZaGX> it works fast for me
• 1541[10:28:36] <zleap> hmm
• 1542[10:28:41] <zleap> it could be a graphics issue then
• 1543[10:28:51] <zleap> just not sure how to update or change video drivers
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• 1546[10:29:08] * diogenes_ is going to try debian hurd
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• 1548[10:29:24] <zleap> diogenes_:the true gnu OS
• 1549[10:29:31] <ZaZaGX> can't you just install the nvidia driver or ati?
• 1550[10:29:41] <duri`> after a fresh installation of Buster with MATE DE, it looks like each tab in MATE Terminal has its own clipboard, so I can't Shift+Ctrl+C in one tab and Shift+Ctrl+V in other. any idea how to prevent this behaviour?
• 1551[10:29:50] <zleap> i am not sure if that is the issue
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• 1556[10:30:14] <zleap> problem is if it messes things up completly I am stuck
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• 1558[10:30:42] <ZaZaGX> than, cant you just fix it? :)
• 1559[10:30:59] <zleap> i am not that good with doing that
• 1560[10:31:10] <ZaZaGX> have you try using google chrome instead?
• 1561[10:31:17] <TheWizard> hi
• 1562[10:31:18] <zleap> no
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• 1564[10:31:34] <zleap> i did try and see if I could find it
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• 1566[10:31:51] <ZaZaGX> hi thewizard
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• 1845[11:31:36] <ville> howdy, i recently installed debian on arm-based nas, i was wondering what sort of software is there to make files easily available for other devices on the network? other linux machines and some android as well.
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• 1850[11:35:22] <humpled> some suggestions in order of complexity: netcat, python -m SimpleHTTPServer, vsftpd anonymous, lighttpd, smbd, apache2, nfs
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• 1853[11:35:45] <alkisg> +sshfs/scp/sftp
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• 1884[11:45:06] <ville> ok i'll have a look at those. i suppose vsftpd, smbd, nfs and sshfs look most likely something where i could have the networked storage be mounted as "normal" looking device on my other machines
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• 1893[11:48:13] <ville> i've terrible recollections of security about smb from the late 90s, that's likely improved since?
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• 1911[11:55:59] <humpled> just using it to make files available, ie. anonymous download-only access, as with ftp in this mode i don't think it can be bad
• 1912[11:58:30] <ZaZaGX> sounds bad
• 1913[11:58:43] <Azlux> I currently use sftp.
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• 1916[11:59:24] <newtodeb> but nfs is not an ftp option or am i wrong? isnt it like an attached storage ?
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• 1918[12:00:00] <humpled> yes it's attached storage, a whole unixy samba type thing
• 1919[12:00:37] <newtodeb> funny just wanted to ask you guys about good ftp options logged in and you are already talking about ftp ;D
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• 1923[12:01:53] <ville> sshfs looks like simple enough mechanism, nothing to do in the server side, just install it on the client machines and mount
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• 1925[12:02:40] <ville> (now obviously this is a trap and i am going to pay for it eventually)
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• 1929[12:04:33] <BCMM> the main thing is that sftp performance is not the absolute greatest
• 1930[12:04:38] <newtodeb> so guys can you recommend using vsftpd if i need it for uploading and downloading, is it possible to upload windowslike files and download without getting them corrupted?
• 1931[12:04:45] <BCMM> but it's realistically unlikely to be the bottleneck
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• 1933[12:05:56] <BCMM> ville: are you prepared to install software on the Android machines?
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• 1936[12:06:19] <BCMM> i mean, if you want to share with droid just out-of-the-box i think an http server is probably the only option
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• 1944[12:10:23] <ville> BCMM: yeah i am fine installing some kind of software to the android devices. those in general just want to play music from the nas.
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• 1947[12:10:49] <BCMM> ville: oh, if you just want to play music, consider a protocol that's specifically for that
• 1948[12:11:10] <BCMM> e.g. you can set up upnp av (nearly the same thing as dlna)
• 1949[12:11:24] <ville> BCMM: that's for the android devices, the linux devices use the nas for other stuff
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• 1951[12:11:36] <BCMM> well, one can do both
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• 1954[12:11:55] <ville> BCMM: right. i'll look up what upnp av is
• 1955[12:12:44] <karlpinc> newtodeb: vsftpd is good if you want use ftp, which nobody should want to use. Use sftp instead if you want passwords, or plain http otherwise.
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• 1959[12:13:41] <BCMM> ville: basically install minidlna on the nas and point it at the music directory, and use the upnp av player of your choice on android. it'll provide a user interface that's actually intended for media, like listing all tracks by an artist easily, showing album art if you have it, etc.
• 1960[12:14:24] <BCMM> also you can do fun stuff like using your phone to tell your TV or whatever to play a file directly from your NAS
• 1961[12:14:29] <karlpinc> newtodeb: sftp is done with sshd, http with any webserver (lighthttpd, nginx)
• 1962[12:14:42] <karlpinc> lighttpd
• 1963[12:14:47] <ville> BCMM: is this upnp av for situations where the NAS it self would pay the music out of its soundcard, or where the client devices play the music out of their soundcards?
• 1964[12:14:48] <BCMM> (mine's a dumb TV with a raspberry pi attached to it, but a lot of smart TVs have support built-in)
• 1965[12:15:12] <BCMM> ville: either is possible
• 1966[12:15:20] <ville> BCMM: alright. i'll keep reading
• 1967[12:15:28] <Bushmills> Best transfer option I found to and from Android is actually scp/sftp. This by using a Magisk module "ssh for Magisk" which launches sshd on Android device boot and allows key authentication
• 1968[12:15:32] <BCMM> ville: but i was talking about a situation in which the NAS streams music to the android device, to be played on android
• 1969[12:15:51] <ville> BCMM: yeah that's the scenario i was intending as well
• 1970[12:16:22] <Bushmills> Result: I can at any time simply connect to the Android device, without preparation, once installed and set up.
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• 1973[12:17:21] <BCMM> ville: there's three types of device in the protocol: servers, which just host the files; renderers, which *play* the files (usually streaming directly from a server); and "control points", which don't actually touch the files at all, but can send commands to renderers
• 1974[12:17:25] <Bushmills> there's also a full rsync (not the crippled busybox rsync) coming with that module, for convenient rsync transfers to and from.
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• 1976[12:19:20] <ville> BCMM: ok that explains some of the terms nicely. thanks. i was wondering what the heck "renderer" was
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• 1986[12:24:12] <ville> i'd like to make my nas easily discoverable when i am outside the local network, so i guess some sort of dynamic ip dns service is in order? any recommendations?
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• 1989[12:26:13] <Bushmills> bind with dynamic zones :)
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• 1999[12:28:04] <Bushmills> ("bind" as in "the server", not as in "the verb")
• 2000[12:28:34] <ville> Bushmills: sounds exotic or not something i immediately understand what you mean. this is a nas at my home, at the end of an ordinary home dsl line that gets assigned dynamic ip address by the provider
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• 2002[12:29:02] <Bushmills> I understood. I use a similar setup here, with two twists.
• 2003[12:29:40] <Bushmills> those two twists require one precondition which is probably not given in your case, which is why I appended a :)
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• 2008[12:32:20] <centrix> I ported samba from Jessie to Buster. Now I observe winbindd on Debian 10 using 30-40% CPU while on Jessie it eats 8-10.
• 2009[12:32:22] <centrix> replaced-url
• 2010[12:32:27] <Bushmills> Result is that I can reach devices behind the firewalling router/gateway directly by their (RFC1918) ip address also from outside (such as, from a mobile Android device)
• 2011[12:32:29] <centrix> Thanks for hints.
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• 2013[12:33:04] <centrix> Approx. the same number of users.
• 2014[12:33:52] <Bushmills> (including the - periodically powered on - NAS, and the - alway on - replication server)
• 2015[12:35:10] <Bushmills> but as you asked for "recommendations", not "recommendations excluding this or that scenario", I felt free to throw in my recommendation too
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• 2019[12:37:07] <ville> Bushmills: oh it's fine. more the merrier. i couldn't be that much more confused than i am right now
• 2020[12:39:46] <Bushmills> precondition is, a server with static address somewhere. bind is a name server, something which those dynamic ip services use too for offering their services. That way, one can essentially host such a service himself. other part is a VPN server which allows connected devices to talk to each other as if they were on the same network (which they, logically, actually, are).
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• 2023[12:40:36] <Bushmills> in fact, that bind server wouldn't be needed in such a VPN scenario, but it's still convenient.
• 2024[12:42:01] <Bushmills> my NAS also connects to that VPN when booting
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• 2027[12:42:58] <ville> yeah, don't really have anything with a static address i've access to. so some sort of dynamic dns service it is?
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• 2030[12:43:42] <Bushmills> I'd say a VPN still beats using a dynamic service
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• 2032[12:44:05] <Bushmills> (among other, making such a service unnecessary)
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• 2043[12:56:29] <Bushmills> for a dns service, including dynamically updating records, I'd probably have a look at hurricane electric, replaced-url
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• 2045[12:57:19] <Bushmills> more comprehensive service offer than the common and generally known dynamic dns services
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• 2047[12:57:33] <BCMM> ville: basically, use a dynamic dns server. you can't self-host your DNS on dynamic IP
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• 2049[12:58:34] <BCMM> you can use ddclient (included in debian) to inform the provider of IP address changes
• 2050[12:59:19] <BCMM> (and if you don't want to concern yourself with securing every different service you host, you might want to consider a vpn)
• 2051[12:59:31] <Bushmills> ddlcient is also compatible with he.net
• 2052[13:00:55] <BCMM> yup
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• 2055[13:03:06] <BCMM> Bushmills: does he.net offer a pool of free domains like e.g. afraid.org? i kind of thought you had to bring your own domain
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• 2058[13:04:30] <Bushmills> I can't tell for sure - never actually used their free dns services. I was with them when tunneling ipv6 before I moved that over to own servers too.
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• 2062[13:05:10] <BCMM> i keep meaning to delegate a subdomain to them, but my DNS provider doesn't offer NS records on their web interface, so i'd have to open a ticket and stuff...
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• 2064[13:05:43] <BCMM> so in the meantime i'm just using afraid.org because you get to use one of the many domains they already have there
• 2065[13:05:45] <Bushmills> I liked that they put technical details already on their introductory pages, rather than pretending to be a "fire and forget" company
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• 2068[13:06:56] <Bushmills> then for you, hosting your own dns may be an option too
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• 2070[13:07:13] <Bushmills> as in, running your own name servers
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• 2073[13:07:49] <Bushmills> i suppose when you're already involved with DNS providers, there'll be machines with static addresses already
• 2074[13:07:51] <BCMM> for me? not really
• 2075[13:08:11] <BCMM> basically i've got a shared hosting account, does my email and websites and stuff
• 2076[13:08:45] <BCMM> i don't want to just move DNS away from them completely, because they have a whole lot of subdomains for cpanel and so on that i don't want to have to be responsible for directly
• 2077[13:08:56] <Habbie> if they have an API, you could host your 'dynamic' record there
• 2078[13:09:05] <BCMM> they don't offer dynamic dns; i checked
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• 2080[13:09:16] <Habbie> if they don't, you can CNAME a single name to a provider that does
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• 2082[13:09:24] <BCMM> yeah
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• 2084[13:09:48] <BCMM> or i could have a subdomain delegated to he.net
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• 2086[13:10:04] <Habbie> yes
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• 2088[13:10:43] <BCMM> mainly haven't done it yet because i don't wanna be the customer just opening tickets all the time, and i already nagged them about the spam filter and how they didn't document their nonstandard ssh port and stuff
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• 2095[13:13:57] <manARMy> Good day. I have exim4 light, can receive emails. I typed sendmail but command not found. I wonder if apt-get install sendmail will break my exim4 ?
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• 2098[13:15:32] <BCMM> manARMy: do you have a /usr/sbin/sendmail?
• 2099[13:15:41] <BCMM> perhaps /usr/sbin just isn't in your path
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• 2102[13:17:18] <BCMM> exim4-daemon-light should include symlinks at /usr/sbin/sendmail and /usr/lib/sendmail
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• 2104[13:18:09] <manARMy> /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to exim4 Thank you
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• 2106[13:18:38] <Bushmills> manARMy: "will break my exim4" - yes. it will replace it.
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• 2108[13:19:27] <Bushmills> actually,sendmail-bin will, but that's a dependency of sendmail
• 2109[13:19:54] <BCMM> manARMy: basically few people use the real "sendmail" any more. MTAs like exim are compatible replacements for it.
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• 2111[13:21:06] <Bushmills> there's also ssmtp which provides sendmail executable and can forward to an - even local - exim4
• 2112[13:21:44] <Bushmills> though using this with an MTA on same server sounds a bit rube-goldbergish
• 2113[13:22:05] <BCMM> can ssmtp do anything clever if the mail server is temporarily unavailable (e.g. my network is down)?
• 2114[13:22:16] <Bushmills> ehm - no. no good. ssmtp replaces exim4 too
• 2115[13:22:26] <BCMM> or is that just a gauranteed failure to even accept the message?
• 2116[13:22:41] <Bushmills> it will spool outgoing mail
• 2117[13:23:00] <BCMM> what happens to it after that? ssmtp doesn't have a daemon, does it?
• 2118[13:23:06] <Bushmills> but as it's not a daemon, it won't retry periodically
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• 2120[13:23:33] <Bushmills> right. it will check at next attempt to send a mail
• 2121[13:23:44] <Bushmills> I suppose, a cronjob can be put in place too
• 2122[13:23:47] <BCMM> was looking in to it for having my NAS send "real" emails (like, to an email address) if anything goes wrong (with SMART or whatever)
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• 2125[13:24:42] <BCMM> because it seemed like overkill to run a real mta... but being unable to handle certain types of failure seems like a bad feature for something i'd use mostly for logging failures
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• 2127[13:25:05] <Bushmills> (I hope I don't confuse this with nullmailer now)
• 2128[13:25:57] <Bushmills> ok. nullmailer has a daemon: nullmailer-send. and a directory in /var/spool
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• 2130[13:26:57] <Bushmills> and what I say about ssmtp must be treated with care, because I'm actually running nullmailer, not ssmtp
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• 2132[13:27:37] <BCMM> Bushmills: oh, thanks for telling me about nullmailer. that looks relevant to me.
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• 2135[13:30:21] <Bushmills> i have switched between those several times already, also using one or the other on different machines - that's probably where my confusion about what I actually use comes from
• 2136[13:30:37] <Bushmills> at one point, one of the two wasn't in the repo any longer
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• 2142[13:32:19] <Bushmills> currently, local machines all run nullmailer, as far it applies.
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• 2146[13:32:53] <BCMM> ssmtp is orphaned in debian and also no longer developed upstream. i think people use msmtp instead.
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• 2149[13:33:13] <Bushmills> seems back in bullseye
• 2150[13:33:57] <diogenes_> hmm Debian is cool, even though i installed it exclusively in UEFI mode, if i switch of UEFI in bios, it can still boot, unlike another infamous OS.
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• 2155[13:37:38] <diogenes_> Ok guys, the new stable xfce 4.14 has just been released, is there any chance it's coming to buster?
• 2156[13:38:03] <Bushmills> maybe through backports
• 2157[13:38:13] <Bushmills> ,v xfce4
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• 2160[13:40:27] <BCMM> diogenes_: buster is released now. the versions of packages in buster are basically going to stay the same now, apart from minor security updates.
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• 2163[13:40:59] <diogenes_> i see, so compiling manually is the only way i guess.
• 2164[13:42:01] <cybercrypto> diogenes_: for now... most probably, yes.
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• 2168[13:43:27] <BCMM> diogenes_: it's not even in experimental yet, because it released a few hours ago
• 2169[13:44:08] <BCMM> diogenes_: i'm sure in due course it will be packaged for unstable, and then they'll be a good debian source package you can use
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• 2172[13:44:30] <BCMM> (assuming, of course, that the new release didn't introduce dependencies that aren't available in Stable)
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• 2175[13:44:41] <bad_cat> also more generally, new software releases will go into the next debian release - stable debian releases don't incorporate new versions of upstream software
• 2176[13:44:55] <diogenes_> BCMM, i see, i got got too excited, like a baby who jut got a new toy :)
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• 2178[13:45:05] <EmleyMoor> I recently did a new install of buster to a machine I intended as part of my AV setup. On trying it in that setup today, as soon as the graphical mode starts, the effect on the display is rather like an old TV with the line hold badly out of adjustment. Is there anything I should try to rectify this?
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• 2182[13:45:30] <BCMM> EmleyMoor: what sort of connection to the TV do you use?
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• 2185[13:45:50] <EmleyMoor> HDMI
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• 2189[13:46:27] <BCMM> huh, that's odd
• 2190[13:47:07] <BCMM> to be clear, do you mean that the picture is split in two, with the top half of the picture on the bottom half of the TV and vice versa??
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• 2192[13:48:23] <EmleyMoor> BCMM: No - that would be frame hold, not line hold. The picture is torn into strips forming a pattern that slopes right repeatedly
• 2193[13:48:36] <BCMM> oh, right
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• 2195[13:48:55] <BCMM> still a bit of an odd error to see on a digital display... what graphics driver are you using?
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• 2198[13:49:22] <EmleyMoor> Um... Radeon I think
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• 2201[13:49:42] <EmleyMoor> The problem is only present when in graphical display. In text display it's fine
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• 2258[14:15:01] <mallxs> Hi, i'm in gnome-flashback and would like to add a item to the top-right menu. Any idea where to start ?
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• 2284[14:26:26] <EmleyMoor> Hmmm... that display problem I mentioned... the mouse pointer is not affected, only the actual desktop/app display
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• 2300[14:38:28] <EmleyMoor> A spare HDMI lead would be useful right now
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• 2302[14:39:13] <EmleyMoor> (I could at least try the computer (and my laptop) direct into the TV if I had one
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• 2310[14:42:39] <Ettle> I'm no DebIan guy but I think it's a fair bet that if you can see the mouse pointer on screen then you won't see a whole lot more on your TV.
• 2311[14:43:27] <EmleyMoor> Ettle: Well, that's crap! And I *am* seeing more, it's just broken up like the line hold is way out
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• 2315[14:45:32] <Ettle> Well I guess I should have logged in earlier when you no doubt described that but alas my Tardis is in for repair.
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• 2318[14:47:00] <Ettle> As a hardware guy I still think what I said buit I will leave you to work it out as you have failed the minimum standard of politeness I require of those I help. GSRLF.
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• 2323[14:48:40] <EmleyMoor> This is a Debian/Wayland issue - everything is fine until the graphical mode starts
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• 2327[14:49:41] <Wikiwide> trying to shut down Debian. forcefully (with power button) because sudo is not working/stuck/frozen (apparently due to absence of Internet), and systemctl hibernate fails to work too.
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• 2329[14:50:48] <Wikiwide> Failed unmounting /home. Remounting /home read-only. Remounted errors=remount-ro. Synchronising scsi cache. Stopping disk.
• 2330[14:51:29] <Wikiwide> Stuck on this "Stopping disk" message. How do I get it to proceed with shutdown? Gently, I want it to boot tomorrow.
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• 2334[14:54:08] <jelly> Wikiwide: sysrq?
• 2335[14:54:11] <jelly> !sysrq
• 2336[14:54:12] <dpkg> from memory, sysrq is Alt-PrintScreen-[Key]. For a clean reboot with a semi-locked machine, try [Key] with s-u-b, s for sync, u for remount readonly and b for reBoot. See replaced-url
• 2337[14:54:40] <jelly> probably just a tiniest bit more gently than pushing the reset button
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• 2339[14:57:13] <jelly> Wikiwide: so, alt-sysrq-s, then u, then b to reboot or o to power off
• 2340[14:57:42] <Wikiwide> Shut it down with long press of power button by now. It's nearly midnight, so I do not have much patience. And I have a toothache and an earache. And gigantic lack of sleep.
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• 2343[14:58:37] <Wikiwide> Thank you for Alt-SysRq-s-u-b, though. Will keep it in mind. It's not the first time I meet sudo not working due to lack of Internet.
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• 2345[15:00:08] <Wikiwide> I have probably got to somehow to replace it with a simpler sudo sometime - sudo which doesn't even think of getting stuck on network.
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• 2347[15:00:50] <Wikiwide> And I am guessing that hibernate and shutdown both get stuck because of lack of sudo?
• 2348[15:01:51] <Wikiwide> systemctl restart network-manager didn't work either.
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• 2352[15:03:41] <hiyosilver> Hi, how to install xml_grep?
• 2353[15:04:25] <Habbie> hiyosilver, it's in the xml-twig-tools package
• 2354[15:04:39] <hiyosilver> oks thanks
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• 2357[15:06:04] <EmleyMoor> replaced-url
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• 2360[15:07:01] <Wikiwide> Sounds like replaced-url
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• 2373[15:17:29] <Wikiwide> So, either '127.0.0.1 localhost hostname' into /etc/hosts, or apt-get install libnss-myhostname replaced-url
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• 2380[15:20:49] <Wikiwide> Confusing: replaced-url
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• 2397[15:27:17] <bad_cat> there shouldn't really be any reason to specify localhost in /etc/hosts IMHO
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• 2401[15:28:53] <jelly> bad_cat: your HO is ont correct.
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• 2404[15:29:37] <jelly> being able to resolve "localhost" is useful, if not mandated in some standard
• 2405[15:29:54] <bad_cat> jelly: but doesn't nsswitch handle that already?
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• 2407[15:30:15] <bad_cat> wait - I'll have to check this again
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• 2410[15:30:42] <jelly> it does, over the files plugin, using an entry in /etc/hosts file, yes
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• 2413[15:32:36] <bad_cat> nsswitch.conf allows a `myhostname` source, though - I might just be lucky that I never ran into any issues, but I never had to specify 127.0.0.1/localhost/my hostname in /etc/hosts so far
• 2414[15:33:35] <bad_cat> ah, but apparently that's in a separate libnss-myhostname - I see
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• 2418[15:34:39] <bad_cat> (or rather, part of systemd, but in a separate package)
• 2419[15:34:46] <jelly> bad_cat: nss_myhostname plugin is part of systemd, not glibc
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• 2423[15:35:27] <bad_cat> my bad - I guess not specifying your hostname in /etc/hosts only works in the case of running systemd
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• 2426[15:37:25] <jelly> someone in redhat thought hardcoding stuff in a NSS plugin was better than having a mutable /etc/hosts file, even if written once duing install and never more
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• 2469[15:53:11] <Akuw> hi guys
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• 2472[15:53:36] <Akuw> what is the name of mail package to send mail
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• 2475[15:53:50] <Akuw> NOT sendmail
• 2476[15:54:16] <ed_peguillan> postfix?
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• 2480[15:55:34] <Akuw> no, is another one that is lighter
• 2481[15:55:43] <Akuw> i forgot the name
• 2482[15:55:59] <ed_peguillan> exim
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• 2485[15:56:08] <Akuw> the only thing is doesnt allow attachments
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• 2489[15:56:57] <Akuw> msmtp
• 2490[15:57:00] <Akuw> i found
• 2491[15:57:05] <Akuw> thanks
• 2492[15:57:17] <alkisg> !next
• 2493[15:57:18] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
• 2494[15:57:25] <Akuw> is there any option that allow to send attachment, is only to send some alarms using gmail
• 2495[15:57:38] <qzio__> hey! I've installed buster and now the date command outputs PM/AM. This was not the case in debian-9. I've configured by timezone to be Europe/Stockholm and we are not used to parse PM/AM so I get super confused :) Is there an easy way to fix this?
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• 2499[15:58:56] <ed_peguillan> I always use $(date +%s) in scripts
• 2500[15:59:00] <jelly> Akuw: mail transfer agents (MTA), like msmtp or exim or postfix, do sending messages to other servers or receive messages from other servers, or sometimes giving messages to a local tool (MDA) to store them in a local mailbox.
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• 2502[15:59:38] <jelly> Akuw: if you want to create a message with an attachment, use a MUA (mail user agent) that can do that, and then MUA can hand it off to a MTA.
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• 2505[16:00:01] <jelly> Akuw: eg. mutt can be used to create a message with an attachment from command line.
• 2506[16:00:14] <Akuw> jelly: thanks
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• 2508[16:00:22] <karlpinc> qzio__: It might be "dpkg-reconfigure locales". I forget. I think maybe the wiki has something.
• 2509[16:00:22] <qzio__> ed_peguillan: mhm, sure I can specify a format when using scripts, but I sometime hit "date" in the cli still... Also I would really like to know how to configure this properly
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• 2511[16:00:39] <qzio__> karlpinc: I've already tried that :(
• 2512[16:00:54] <jelly> Akuw: mutt can also use a remote SMTP server for sending, so you might not even need a MTA installed, depending on your needs
• 2513[16:01:11] <Akuw> jelly: i will use gmail
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• 2515[16:01:32] <karlpinc> qzio__: Have you logged out and in again?
• 2516[16:03:20] <qzio__> karlpinc: yeah sure, multiple times.
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• 2518[16:04:16] <qzio__> if I do `e<port LC_ALL=sv_SE.UTF-8` and then do date the 24hour format is used. But I don't want to run sv_SE for _ALL is there a particular LC_ variable I can use for this? LC_TIMEZONE or similar?
• 2519[16:04:52] <qzio__> ha! LC_TIME seems to be what I'm after!
• 2520[16:05:14] <ed_peguillan> tzdata?
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• 2523[16:07:24] <karlpinc> qzio__: When doing dpkg-reconfigure locales you might (possibly) have to change the default question level by passing an argument, so you get asked everything.
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• 2525[16:07:37] <jelly> qzio__: you can put more than one variable in /etc/default/locale, eg. replaced-url
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• 2528[16:08:51] <qzio__> karlpinc: yeah but I very much like to keep everything in english, it's just the date format I would like to have in a 24hour format. but LC_TIME=en_UK.UTF-8 seems to be what I'm actually after
• 2529[16:08:52] <jelly> qzio__: only use LC_ALL manually, it's highest priority and can't be overridden
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• 2531[16:09:05] <qzio__> jelly: exactly, I don't want to screw with LC_ALL
• 2532[16:09:11] <jelly> you probably mean en_GB.UTF-8
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• 2535[16:10:10] * jelly has no idea what the Brits like differently than default C (US based) locale
• 2536[16:10:34] <qzio__> ha! It seems I can put anything in LC_TIME to get what I want (english, but with the 24hour format) funny >:)
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• 2539[16:10:57] <jelly> I'd suggest using C.UTF-8 or C, then
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• 2544[16:12:03] <jelly> LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8 strace -eopen date # see what locale definitions ACTUALLY exist
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• 2554[16:14:10] <qzio__> or just LC_TIME=foo hehe (yeah, no, bad idea, going with C.UTF-8 for now. Thanks jelly!
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• 2580[16:25:12] <Soo_Slow> hello. Is there any way to prioritize network usage for certain applications? I have few things that randomly eat my whole connection. And sometimes they need to be launched at the very same moment. So I need something that will make them work like "if application_1 is running - make application_2 use only leftover amount of speed. Otherway - let application_2 use the whole". Like, dunno, 'nice' for network usage
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• 2582[16:25:47] <JustASlacker> you are looking for QoS
• 2583[16:25:51] <JustASlacker> Quality of Service
• 2584[16:27:03] <JustASlacker> Soo_Slow: ^
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• 2590[16:28:47] <Soo_Slow> JustASlacker, thanks
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• 2598[16:34:46] <davis> hello, I have wired networking working on a desktop. I added a wifi usb dongle. I used the website to verify this device is supported. Its a kernel supported driver. However, in my top right of my desktop I see, wired, sound and power buttons. On the dropdown I only see wired, i do not see wireless. I am in netdev group. I used sudo to run network manager and I added the wifi ssid, and password.
• 2599[16:34:52] <davis> However, I do not have wifi.
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• 2601[16:35:54] <davis> if I open settings app, it has an wi-fi tab. It says no wifi adapter found.
• 2602[16:36:29] <koniu> anyone can shed light on how to set up auto unlocking luks encrypted rootfs with a usb key on buster?
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• 2605[16:38:29] <koniu> i want to read the key directly from the block device using an offset
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• 2608[16:38:56] <Akuw_> i just made a function that check many things, then i want to send output to one variable to send by mail
• 2609[16:39:08] <mtn> davis: you probably need to install the firmware for that card
• 2610[16:39:10] <Akuw_> the output has 15 lines
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• 2613[16:39:34] <han-solo> Akuw_: bash ?
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• 2615[16:39:40] <Akuw_> yes
• 2616[16:39:53] <koniu> crypttab: bla_crypt UUID=... /dev/disk/by-uuid/.. luks,keyfile-size=4096,keyfile-offset=...,initramfs
• 2617[16:40:28] <koniu> but update-initramfs gets me WARNING: Skipping root target bla_crypt: uses a key file
• 2618[16:40:35] <koniu> and unbootable system
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• 2621[16:41:02] <rant> koniu: its going to be an elaborate setup of entirely manual configuration, you'll need to create scripts to facilitate this and put them into initramfs
• 2622[16:41:42] <davis> mtn, i installed some wireless firmware package. I can't remember which. I'll go back to the supported devices page and see if I missed something.
• 2623[16:41:59] <rant> you'll also need to add whatever key you use to the crypt header, and keep the one with a password to fall back on should anything happen to the removable key
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• 2629[16:42:43] <davis> hello rant
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• 2632[16:43:22] <rant> koniu: replaced-url
• 2633[16:43:37] <han-solo> lspci | grep -i wireless
• 2634[16:43:39] <koniu> rant: yup, the key's been added but the initramfs setup is the issue
• 2635[16:43:43] <rant> koniu: you'll need to match the device via a udev rule to make sure it always appears in the same place
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• 2637[16:43:53] <davis> this page, has this text in final column for this device replaced-url
• 2638[16:44:07] <davis> does that mean, I do not need to install firmware?
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• 2640[16:44:18] <rant> koniu: I wanted to do it on my system but just never could be arsed to go through all the aggrivations
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• 2642[16:44:40] <rant> koniu: I figured for a laptop with a built-in sd reader, an sdcard might be a good way to go with it
• 2643[16:44:41] <mtn> davis: firmeware and drivers are two different things. check out the wiki for that type of device
• 2644[16:45:28] <koniu> rant: hmm... yeah, i was hoping to avoid low-level meddling. i thought that cryptsetup-initramfs provides te facilities
• 2645[16:45:53] <rant> it might be interesting to even implement that nearby device kinda stuff android does :P
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• 2647[16:46:13] <Akuw_> han-solo: any idea?
• 2648[16:46:21] <rant> koniu: not that I'm aware, it requires custom udev rules, scripts, and all has to be manually built into initramfs
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• 2651[16:46:46] <koniu> just allowing to provide block device as keyfile in crypttab and using keyfile-offset and keyfile-size options as per crypttab(5)
• 2652[16:46:57] <rant> koniu: the idea is about as old as luks itself, but its not popular enough for it to have been implemented in any distro that I know of
• 2653[16:47:51] <koniu> this should well be built in
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• 2655[16:48:39] <koniu> i think you dont need to use udev rules since you can address block devices by UUID
• 2656[16:48:41] <davis> mtn, which particular page are you referring to? I'm looking at wifi.debian.org/WiFI which at the start had the link I posted above.
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• 2658[16:48:45] <rant> its not because if it were people would rely on it and they would lose their data..
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• 2661[16:49:21] <mtn> davis: what chip does that device use? or the brand and model of device?
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• 2665[16:50:01] <mtn> davis: this is the correct wiki page: replaced-url
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• 2668[16:50:58] <aviany> hey guys, I have a strange problem where only in xorg, the alt-number combination will be shifter by one number higher
• 2669[16:51:00] <davis> mtn, that is the page i started with. in hardinfo, devices, usb devices, it says Ralink Tech MT7610u archer T2U 2.4G+5G WLaN adapter
• 2670[16:51:03] <koniu> wanting to
• 2671[16:51:04] <aviany> so alt-1 becomes alt-2
• 2672[16:51:15] <aviany> anyone know why this could happen?
• 2673[16:51:42] <mtn> davis: what does lsusb give you for the device?
• 2674[16:52:18] <davis> its listed there as well
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• 2676[16:52:34] <davis> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 148f:761a Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7610U ("Archer T2U" 2.4G+5G WLAN Adapter
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• 2688[16:56:16] <mtn> davis: I don't see that device listed in the wiki page, but can fine info on getting a driver for it online.
• 2689[16:56:32] <aviany> nevermind.. got it. Alacritty has some interesting mappings
• 2690[16:56:39] <mtn> davis: might be outdated: replaced-url
• 2691[16:57:00] <mtn> davis: and: replaced-url
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• 2697[16:59:52] <jelly> /lib/modules/4.19.0-5-amd64/modules.alias:alias usb:v148Fp761Ad*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in* mt76x0
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• 2699[17:00:24] <greycat> Oh look, ANOTHER system with ancient nsswitch.conf...
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• 2702[17:01:10] <jelly> davis: which debian release are you using?
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• 2706[17:02:43] <brutser> hi guys! i want to use vanilla debian with some desktop as a dom0 for virtualization (qemu/kvm): what desktop system could be suggested with aim to use little resources, yet still give good kvm experience and also the goal is not having the need to customize the desktop system too much (that is my fear with xfce)
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• 2712[17:05:30] <BCMM> brutser: what are your actual requirements for the desktop? what's a "good kvm experience" mean, with respect to desktop environments? what customisations would you need to make to xfce?
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• 2714[17:06:27] <davis> jelly: i'm not sure. 10?
• 2715[17:06:43] <BCMM> it's hard to suggest an alternative to xfce without understanding what it is about xfce that you don't like
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• 2718[17:07:13] <davis> /etc/debian_version ssays 10.0
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• 2723[17:08:19] <brutser> BCMM: basically i used mate desktop for the last years on debian, but it's quite giving me issues when using this as guest os, i guess i don't have enough experience with xfce to reply on that, i guess i read/hear most about how people customize it etc and i think to myself, that will take me lot of learning how to get that done
• 2724[17:08:23] <brutser> but maybe that's not even needed
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• 2726[17:10:02] <dvs> davis, looks like this device is only in the sid firmware-misc-nonfree version: * MediaTek MT76x0 wifi firmware (mediatek/mt7610e.bin)
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• 2728[17:10:24] <dvs> * MediaTek MT76x0 wifi firmware (mediatek/mt7610u.bin)
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• 2733[17:11:08] <jelly> davis: ok, so it's 10 (buster), is mt76x0 module loaded (listed in lsmod command output)?
• 2734[17:12:02] <davis> lsusb has this line mt76 40960 1 mt76x0
• 2735[17:12:20] <jelly> that's lsmod, and it shows the driver is loaded, good
• 2736[17:12:30] <davis> yes, my bad lsmod
• 2737[17:12:55] <jelly> davis: can you pastebin the output of dmesg|grep mt76 ..., run as root?
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• 2740[17:13:25] <alkisg> brutser: I'm using mate a lot, what issues did it give you?
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• 2742[17:13:41] <davis> that is dmesg | grep mt76 | nc pastebin.com 9999 ?
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• 2747[17:15:20] <jelly> I don't know if pastebin.com has such fucntionality, sorry
• 2748[17:15:22] <jelly> !paste
• 2749[17:15:22] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: replaced-url
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• 2751[17:15:52] <rant> davis: termbin not pastebin
• 2752[17:15:56] <jelly> or upload a screenshot someplace.
• 2753[17:16:19] <rant> davis: don't ever use pastebin.com on freenode, or really at all.. its a crappy js hungry site with popups and ads
• 2754[17:16:26] <jelly> do you HAVE internet access on the machine where you can't get wifi stick working?
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• 2757[17:17:14] <davis> replaced-url
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• 2759[17:17:45] <jelly> so the driver is there and it's missing firmware
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• 2761[17:18:43] <rant> davis: sudo apt install firmware-misc-nonfree
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• 2767[17:19:35] <dvs> .wb
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• 2769[17:19:42] <dvs> bah!
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• 2772[17:21:31] <jelly> ,file mediatek/mt7610u.bin
• 2773[17:21:37] <judd> No packages in buster/amd64 were found with that file.
• 2774[17:21:41] <jelly> ,file mediatek/mt7610u.bin --release sid
• 2775[17:21:47] <judd> Search for mediatek/mt7610u.bin in sid/amd64: firmware-misc-nonfree: lib/firmware/mediatek/mt7610u.bin
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• 2777[17:22:00] <greycat> ,v firmware-misc-nonfree
• 2778[17:22:01] <judd> Package: firmware-misc-nonfree on amd64 -- jessie-security/non-free: 20161130-5~deb8u1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-5; stretch-backports/non-free: 20190114-1~bpo9+2; buster/non-free: 20190114-1; bullseye/non-free: 20190717-1; sid/non-free: 20190717-1
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• 2781[17:22:21] <dvs> hmpf!
• 2782[17:22:26] <greycat> I would imagine a backport of a firmware-* package is pretty simple.
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• 2784[17:22:38] <jelly> davis: so you'll have to install that version from sid for the time being
• 2785[17:22:51] <dvs> does buster-backports exist?
• 2786[17:22:56] <jelly> it does.
• 2787[17:23:10] <jelly> if there was a version in there, it'd be listed.
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• 2790[17:23:59] <davis> jelly: mnay thanks. ill try to figure out how to do that.
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• 2796[17:25:11] <dvs> davis, replaced-url
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• 2798[17:25:26] <dvs> don't add sid to your sources!
• 2799[17:25:28] <rant> beat me to it.. I'd only gotten to http:/
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• 2801[17:25:38] <dvs> yay!
• 2802[17:25:50] <jelly> ,checkbackport firmware-misc-nonfree
• 2803[17:25:51] <judd> Backporting package firmware-misc-nonfree in sid→buster/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using buster.
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• 2805[17:26:23] <rant> do the firmware packages even have deps other than mabe debhelper?
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• 2807[17:26:35] <rant> ,depends firmware-misc-nonfree
• 2808[17:26:36] <judd> Package firmware-misc-nonfree in buster/amd64 -- depends: .
• 2809[17:26:42] <rant> didn't think so
• 2810[17:26:44] <dvs> rant, initramfs as a suggestion
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• 2815[17:27:39] <rant> the whole reason they're in non-free is cause they are binary files that just get dumped into /lib/firmware or w/e
• 2816[17:27:53] <rant> there is no build-dep to consider cause there is nothing to build :D
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• 2833[17:33:32] <rain2> How did linus fuck that up
• 2834[17:33:47] <rain2> his life work is a free operating system and yet it has all these binaries in it
• 2835[17:34:05] <greycat> It's not a Linus Torvalds thing or even a Linux thing.
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• 2837[17:34:48] <greycat> Many "modern" pieces of hardware have little computers inside them that have their own firmware, and that firmware may be released by the manufacturer only in binary blobs.
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• 2840[17:35:25] <greycat> In the case of CPUs, they call it "microcode" instead of "firmware".
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• 2843[17:35:47] <jelly> hell _cables_ now have 32bit cpus with firmware in them
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• 2856[17:40:05] <rant> there is no real advantage to wasting time and effort reverse engineering a million pieces of hardware to try produce open firmware for them all
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• 2858[17:40:23] <rant> only to have a bunch of issues to maintain with having done so
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• 2868[17:46:55] <EdePopede> the problem is to know if it is supported *before* you pay for it. and i can't imagine a shop giving you a written guarantee that it will work with some specific distribution or kernel version. unless the owner is a FOSS enthusiast maybe, but even then usual business rules apply. you have to be really big to survive in this niche or you have to go on selling nvidia's gaming bundles and the plug'n'go machines with newest redmond preinstalled.
• 2869[17:47:45] <greycat> I can't imagine a "shop" knowing what Linux even is. Some of them might be aware that there's Macs as well as Windowses, but that's pushing it.
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• 2874[17:50:34] <Akuw_> how to make ping wait 1 second only when there is no pint response
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• 2881[17:51:48] <EdePopede> i bought this computer long ago from such a shop, after the two i got from Aldi before (don't laugh, the 1st was one of the cheap ones from their astablishing phase, the 2nd one came as a multimedia pc to a reasonable price). go support a small shop, i said. they only have 2 shops in town, so ok. only i should have concentrated more on the MCSE paper framed on the wall
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• 2890[17:54:30] <EdePopede> now i get my stuff usually from a chain with around 20 shops mostly in this corner of the country. still ok. and i have the impression that at least the folks behind the counter know their stuff. still they wouldn't do anything harming their business i guess. at least one of them named a few companies i should keep fingers off from after i was asking for some cable for a lenovo ;)
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• 2893[17:57:04] <Akuw_> -W is for Time to wait for a response
• 2894[17:57:06] <Akuw_> thanks
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• 2901[18:00:06] <Akuw_> is there another way to test if a given ip exist and have response?
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• 2908[18:00:46] <galaxie> I'm not sure if I understand adding users to groups. I did 'sudo usermod -a -G dialout user' but then when I typed 'groups' as user it didn't show, but when I do 'groups user' it shows.
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• 2911[18:01:08] <llandon> Akuw_: nmap
• 2912[18:01:18] <greycat> (1) Debian has "adduser username groupname" to add an existing user to an existing group. (2) you must log out and back in to get any new privileges.
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• 2914[18:01:28] <Akuw_> but does nmap to much load?
• 2915[18:01:51] <galaxie> greycat: But usermod should suffice?
• 2916[18:01:53] <Akuw_> because of this "Ping: This program is intended for use in network testing, measurement and management. Because of the load it can
• 2917[18:01:54] <Akuw_> impose on the network, it is unwise to use ping during normal operations or from automated scripts."
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• 2919[18:02:22] <greycat> I have absolutely no idea what that usermod command does. You could read the /etc/group command to see if it added it correctly.
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• 2921[18:02:55] <greycat> ... file.
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• 2925[18:03:34] <jelly> galaxie: usermod adds the group to the database where additional groups for each user are listed. "groups" command reads from that database. Contents of that database are APPLIED only at login time.
• 2926[18:04:19] <greycat> "groups" or "id" with no argument shows your current process's privs. "groups username" or "id username" shows what a hypothetical FUTURE login session for that account will have.
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• 2931[18:06:02] <EdePopede> Akuw_: the only *safe* way to know it is to connect to a service you *know* it provides. some servers don't respond to pings at all, some don't react at all if you don't prove you're a legitimate user (see knockd). though the latter may be the big exception. and if you start a normal ping manually, nobody should usually care.
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• 2935[18:07:02] <Burek> eat me jelly
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• 2937[18:07:41] <galaxie> greycat: Cool, thanks for clarification!
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• 2939[18:08:42] <davis> perhaps I misunderstood, but "apt install firmware-misc-nonfree" results in after reboot mt76x0 1-10:1.0: firmware: failed to load mediatek/mt7610u.bin (-2)
• 2940[18:09:18] <greycat> davis: "apt" won't install the sid version
• 2941[18:09:36] <davis> sid is what?
• 2942[18:09:58] <davis> whoops. brb
• 2943[18:10:00] <greycat> CONTEXT. The problem is you needed firmware from a NEWER version of this package than buster has.
• 2944[18:10:06] <jelly> davis: you should have downloaded the .deb package from sid, version 20190717-1, and then install that (using dpkg or apt)
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• 2947[18:10:38] <greycat> It turns out the sid (unstable) version of the package has what you need, so you were given a link to the sid version of the package on replaced-url
• 2948[18:11:01] <greycat> So you were supposed to download the .deb file from that web site, then install it with "dpkg -i".
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• 2950[18:11:46] <greycat> In general, this would be a very BAD idea (mixing sid packages on a stable system), but in this *very specific* case, people judged it to be safe.
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• 2952[18:12:27] <jelly> TECHNICALLY you can also install local debs with apt now
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• 2955[18:13:03] <greycat> yeah, he could have done "apt install ./foobar.deb" but I'm assuming the "apt install firmware..." command that he gave us was what he actually typed.
• 2956[18:13:19] <greycat> !apt install
• 2957[18:13:19] <dpkg> You can specify a pathname to a manually downloaded .deb file in apt install, but it must begin with / or ./ or ../ or else apt thinks it's a package name. E.g. "apt install ./foo-1.2.deb". This supersedes <gdebi>.
• 2958[18:13:29] <EdePopede> greycat, would you generally say that single packaes at the end of the dependency tree are less problematic or even not at all? or at least the nearer they are there the lesser problems there may be?
• 2959[18:13:42] <Akuw_> how can i update date and time when timezone changes
• 2960[18:13:46] <greycat> EdePopede: It's because it's firmware. Not because it's a leaf in some tree.
• 2961[18:14:06] <Akuw_> some countries change time and winter
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• 2963[18:14:19] <EdePopede> Akuw_: select the proper timezone
• 2964[18:14:22] <Bushmills> Akuw_: you don't
• 2965[18:14:32] <Akuw_> yes
• 2966[18:14:35] <Akuw_> is correct
• 2967[18:14:36] <jelly> Akuw_: time does not change. Only display for humans changes.
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• 2969[18:14:49] <Bushmills> system time remains the same. only when that time is displayed. does timezone come into the equation
• 2970[18:14:51] <EdePopede> Akuw_: that's why you put your bios clock to UTC and let the OS manage the rest.
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• 2972[18:15:00] <Akuw_> humm
• 2973[18:15:11] <Bushmills> so you don't really change "time", but only how it's translated when displayed
• 2974[18:15:21] <Akuw_> then ISP is not giving changes, in some cumputer change and another no
• 2975[18:15:23] <jelly> if you've chosen the right timezone, commands will magically start displaying the other timezone value. when the time comes
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• 2977[18:15:50] <jelly> Akuw_: the computer does not have to be connected to the internet for this to work
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• 2980[18:16:07] <jelly> it just needs timezone definitions installed
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• 2982[18:16:12] <EdePopede> Akuw_: change the bios settings (are the clocks in local time or utc?). and make them use ntp.
• 2983[18:16:13] <jelly> (and they're installed by default)
• 2984[18:16:24] <Akuw_> jelly: 2 days ago rithnow would be 12:00
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• 2986[18:16:36] <Akuw_> now after 2 days it is 13:00
• 2987[18:16:49] <Bushmills> a mistake some make is that they set system time to local time, and set time zone, then wonder why the displayed time isn't correct
• 2988[18:16:59] <Akuw_> no
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• 2990[18:17:21] <jelly> Akuw_: does this machine dual boot to a different OS?
• 2991[18:17:45] <Akuw_> no
• 2992[18:17:53] <Akuw_> 2 diferents machines
• 2993[18:17:57] <Akuw_> and cellulars too
• 2994[18:18:04] <Bushmills> what does date -u show?
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• 2996[18:18:26] <jelly> Akuw_: which of those runs Debian?
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• 2998[18:18:49] <Akuw_> both but the same happen in windows computers
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• 3003[18:19:42] * jelly waits for "date --utc" / "date -u" output
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• 3006[18:21:04] <Akuw_> ok, GMT-04:00
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• 3008[18:21:22] <Akuw_> but now should be GMT-04:00 sorry
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• 3010[18:21:33] <Akuw_> old GTM:-03:00
• 3011[18:21:41] <Akuw_> new GTM:-04:00
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• 3013[18:22:01] <Akuw_> Time zone: America/Santiago (-03, -0300)
• 3014[18:22:24] * Bushmills goes away, tired waiting for what is, not what should be
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• 3017[18:23:27] <Akuw_> my cellular has 13:23
• 3018[18:23:33] <Akuw_> wrong time
• 3019[18:23:36] <Akuw_> it is crazy
• 3020[18:23:40] <jelly> Akuw_: if you want to get (better) help, you'll have to learn to follow instructions, sorry
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• 3042[18:33:57] <Akuw_> jelly: this bios doesnt has that option
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• 3044[18:34:09] <physkets> Hi!
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• 3047[18:34:47] <physkets> I'm not using debian, but I was wondering if you guys could hemlp me out a bit with an AppArmor issue.
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• 3050[18:34:56] <physkets> I recently began using AA, and am now in the process of making a profile for Firefox
• 3051[18:35:04] <physkets> I do have a fairly populated profile right now, and am running it in complain mode
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• 3055[18:35:23] <physkets> But I'm unable to view any Amazon Prime Videos... it tells me that the DRM plugin is unavailable
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• 3057[18:35:33] <physkets> and when I switch off AA, then it begins to work
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• 3060[18:35:46] <physkets> Anybody know why? And how I can fix this?
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• 3062[18:36:32] <rant> I haven't fooled much with AA but afaik it has a learning mode to tailor the profile to your use case
• 3063[18:36:52] <greycat> Ask whatever your actual OS channel is, how to disable or modify the apparmor stuff in that OS. Which isn't Debian, or named.
• 3064[18:37:15] * rant missed that bit
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• 3067[18:38:11] <rant> I stopped reading when I got to the bit about what "AA" was.. scanning backward
• 3068[18:39:23] <omarek> Hi, can anyone help me verify my hard drive health? It appears my mobo died when my computer was suspended. I'm running Debian from live USB.
• 3069[18:39:50] <omarek> smartctl was enabled and lists no errors whatsover, but I can't access one of my drives' partitions.
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• 3071[18:40:19] <omarek> fdisk -l lists one DOS (PMBR) partition (???) on the whole device.
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• 3073[18:41:00] <omarek> e2fsck /dev/sda says "bad magic number in super-block"...
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• 3076[18:41:31] <Habbie> sda is not a partition, sda is the whole disk
• 3077[18:41:32] <greycat> e2fsck would need a valid partition device anyway, not /dev/sda
• 3078[18:41:40] <omarek> I *might* have created a LVM install on that disk, I don't exacty remember. I was curious to try it out, it was a few years ago.
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• 3081[18:43:03] <omarek> Habbie: then how do I check if the partition table/superblock is correct? I expected a few more partitions... with data... I can't mount it.
• 3082[18:43:05] <deadmarshal> hi. today I noticed that when I turn off my pc and log in again the next day, some apps that I have installed or removed reverts back to how it was before, and they get uninstalled. how to fix it?
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• 3088[18:44:44] <omarek> I started a read-only scan on /dev/sda using "badblocks", then I read it takes 70 hours to scan 1TB. My drive is 4TB.
• 3089[18:45:15] <Habbie> omarek, you could use the LVM tools to see if they find anything..
• 3090[18:45:25] <omarek> lsblk lists two partitions on /dev/sdb (I don't remember how many there were) but 0 on /dev/sda
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• 3093[18:45:34] <Habbie> omarek, or run something like (g)parted to figure out pretty quickly what you have
• 3094[18:45:54] <greycat> 12:40 omarek> fdisk -l lists one DOS (PMBR) partition
• 3095[18:46:32] <greycat> If that's ALL that it lists, then the question is whether partitions have been DELETED (dos partition will be smaller than the device), or whether the partition table has been completely OVERWRITTEN (dos partition spans the whole device).
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• 3097[18:47:07] <davis> i hope evereyone had a good lunch.
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• 3100[18:47:25] <damdam12> anyone is using yubi key here?
• 3101[18:48:01] <Habbie> damdam12, do you have a question about yubi keys?
• 3102[18:48:17] <damdam12> @Habbie yes
• 3103[18:48:30] <Habbie> what's the question?
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• 3105[18:49:00] <davis> i lost my scrollback. but if remember correctly, I should install firmware-misc-nonfree from sid backports.
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• 3107[18:49:27] <greycat> From sid, BECAUSE there isn't one in buster-backports yet.
• 3108[18:49:29] <davis> i imagine if I google for sid backports firmware, it will give a .deb location which I download with wget and then dpkg.
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• 3110[18:49:46] <damdam12> @habbie I dont know what should I use for secure my remote server... I want to store my sshkey on yubikey, but I am not sure what other factor should I use...
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• 3112[18:49:54] <greycat> 11:25 dvs|#debian> davis, replaced-url
• 3113[18:49:55] <omarek> fdisk -l and e2fsck output: replaced-url
• 3114[18:49:59] <davis> greycat: btw, you help out in C, right? You have been so helpful to me over the years and I really appreciate it.
• 3115[18:50:09] <davis> many thanks for that url
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• 3118[18:50:58] <davis> folks like you who help on irc are wonderful and such a pity it seems a rare breed
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• 3122[18:53:11] <Habbie> omarek, oh! try gdisk /dev/sda; then do 'p'
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• 3125[18:54:27] <omarek> Habbie: I ran gparted without arguments, and it pops out a message "invalid argument during seed for read on /dev/sda" . I pressed cancel.
• 3126[18:55:11] <Habbie> aha
• 3127[18:55:16] <Habbie> i don't know what that error means
• 3128[18:55:20] <physkets> rant greycat I'm asking here because my distro does not use it by default, so no one in the channel was able to help me. Also, AppArmor is the same no matter the Distro; I know how to disable the profile for firefox; what I want to do is figure out what is causing this...
• 3129[18:55:21] <davis> hmm. this link replaced-url
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• 3131[18:55:42] <physkets> rant: it is already in complain mode, and shouldn't be blocking anything
• 3132[18:55:44] <Habbie> davis, at the bottom
• 3133[18:55:49] <Habbie> davis, Download ... -> [all]
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• 3135[18:56:14] <davis> Habbie: many thanks
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• 3137[18:57:13] <davis> super. let me reboot after the install
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• 3139[18:57:16] <davis> brb
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• 3142[18:58:27] <omarek> Habbie: gdisk output so far replaced-url
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• 3148[18:59:20] <omarek> After swapping many hardware parts, I got the computer working by inserting a different motherboard. It didn't restore properly from suspend. I wrote the entire message down. Would it be helpful?
• 3149[18:59:37] <Habbie> omarek, ok, so you have six partitions, but gdisk noted some corruption
• 3150[18:59:49] <Habbie> omarek, ls /dev/sda* does not reveal these six partitions?
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• 3153[19:01:15] <Habbie> omarek, i am not giving advice here, only telling you possibilities: doing 'w' in gdisk MIGHT improve the state of your partition table, because it has renegerated your backup partition table, but has not written it to disk yet
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• 3158[19:02:47] <omarek> Habbie: those partition sizes at the end of the paste look familiar. 20GiB is /, 4GiB is swap, 600 GiB /home, and the remaining 1TiB partitions are data partitions and backup partition.
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• 3162[19:04:04] <Habbie> omarek, sounds like medium to good news then
• 3163[19:04:11] <omarek> Habbie: ls /dev/sda* only lists one line: /dev/sda
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• 3165[19:04:53] <trek00> I have installed libreoffice-draw, but now it is the default application to open pdf files, over the previously installed mupdf: I can tweak each user's mime configuration, but can I set mupdf as default viewer system-wide?
• 3166[19:04:57] <Habbie> omarek, ok - that might be because of the corruption gdisk mentions, but i don't know
• 3167[19:05:04] <omarek> I suspect power supply failure which caused a motherboard failure. I got this computer running by ALSO swapping a power supply.
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• 3170[19:05:59] <omarek> Habbie: the first paragraph of gdisk output recommends using 'v' to verify disk integrity. Any reason I should *not* do that?
• 3171[19:06:46] <Habbie> omarek, 'v' does not make changes by itself, so see what it says
• 3172[19:06:47] <omarek> I swear I'm going to set up (semi) automatic backups with rsync and my external USB hdd after this.
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• 3176[19:07:52] <Habbie> :)
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• 3183[19:09:15] <omarek> Habbie: 'v' listed 5 errors: replaced-url
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• 3188[19:10:37] <Habbie> omarek, the 'disk is too small' thing is kind of weird, but who knows, perhaps that mistake was made a long time ago
• 3189[19:10:55] <Habbie> omarek, the best advice right now is to image the disk - all 4 TB of it, to a bigger disk, but i see how that tends to be problematic
• 3190[19:11:12] <omarek> Habbie: nothing to do with RAID. I remember it has indeed created that gap until 2048 when I first partitioned it, and I had no way to opt out.
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• 3192[19:11:21] <Habbie> omarek, yeah that bit is fine, it's the 'disk is too small' part
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• 3194[19:13:00] <omarek> Habbie: Is it possible to split the image in parts?
• 3195[19:13:08] <Habbie> omarek, what i would probably do at this point is use the gdisk backup function ('b') to backup what you have; then also use dd (please carefully look up how) to also backup the first and last few megabytes of your disk; then let gdisk repair what it can
• 3196[19:13:14] <Habbie> omarek, yes, but then it's very hard to work with
• 3197[19:13:26] <Habbie> omarek, depending on how you do it
• 3198[19:13:40] <Habbie> omarek, i have to go now; i might be back later; please continue carefully :)
• 3199[19:13:40] <omarek> Let me find my unused blank backup drive...
• 3200[19:14:43] <omarek> Habbie: thank you for support.
• 3201[19:14:49] <Habbie> you're welcome, i hope it all works out
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• 3220[19:21:38] <davis> hello
• 3221[19:21:46] <davis> many thanks for the help. wifi is working now.
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• 3226[19:24:28] <omarek> BWAHAHAA I have a blank 5TiB drive to back up a 4TiB drive!!!
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• 3235[19:27:50] <Cyb0ti> omarek: why so elated didn't you know you had it?
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• 3240[19:31:54] <omarek> Cyb0ti: I wasn't 100% sure if it was 4GiB or 5GiB. I suppose it might have been tricky backing up 4GiB drive on a 4GiB drive.
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• 3243[19:32:20] <Cyb0ti> Ok
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• 3245[19:32:33] <Cyb0ti> You mean G not T?
• 3246[19:32:46] <omarek> TiB, sorry.
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• 3257[19:37:38] <trek00> I found a fix to my previous question, the file /etc/xdg/mimeapps.list :)
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• 3274[19:46:16] <Habbie> omarek, PERFECT
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• 3282[19:49:11] <omarek> Habbie: I think I'll just make an image of the WHOLE drive, not first and last part. Then also use the 'b' command.
• 3283[19:49:41] <omarek> It's going to last a while though because the external drive is USB, and this mobo has USB2.0
• 3284[19:49:45] <Habbie> omarek, yes
• 3285[19:49:52] <Habbie> omarek, yes this will take a while but it can be worth it
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• 3294[19:52:33] <jhutchins_wk> That's one of those things that takes longer if you watch it.
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• 3297[19:53:16] <karlpinc> (If it were me, I'd use dd to backup the whole thing. That way I'd be sure to have an exact copy. gdisk might do the same, but the docs say "b" does only "partition data", not every block.)
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• 3300[19:54:30] <Habbie> karlpinc, i understand omarek will do both, but never hurts to check
• 3301[19:54:33] <jhutchins_wk> clonezilla
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• 3303[19:54:59] <Habbie> i prefer dd over clonezilla - easier to work with a raw image
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• 3305[19:55:27] <omarek> Habbie: I'm reading an article on backups with dd (I've used dd if=... of=... for making bootable USBs in the past). Any reason to do a 'dd' backup and ALSO a backup using gdisk's "b" command?
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• 3307[19:56:11] <Habbie> omarek, yes, dd is good - use /dev/sda for if=, use a file for of=, and specify a bs= to speed it up a bit
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• 3309[19:56:28] <Habbie> omarek, the 'b' backup should not be necessary after that but it might still be useful to speed up gdisk experiments
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• 3313[19:57:20] <omarek> I would prefer to clone the image to a file so I can put some other (backup) files on the USB drive as well. One image file from dd, and the files from gdisk's 'b'
• 3314[19:57:30] <Habbie> yes
• 3315[19:57:53] <Habbie> if you want to be extra cool, format the 5TB with a filesystem that can do snapshots, like zfs or btrfs
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• 3317[19:58:06] <Habbie> then you can do gdisk experiments on a 'copy' of the image file without wasting another 4tb
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• 3319[19:58:30] <omarek> I'll create an ext4 partition on the backup drive.
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• 3369[20:23:59] <newtodeb> hey guys
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• 3387[20:31:54] <karlpinc> newtodeb: See my reply to you above?
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• 3427[20:53:23] <deadmarshal> how can I solve this error (debian 10)? replaced-url
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• 3435[20:56:40] <jim> that could mean you have packages that are from other versions of debian, or are from debian derivatives, and therefore cause the importing of incompatible dependency subtrees, maybe.
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• 3437[20:57:16] <Habbie> there's no mysql-workbench in buster, indeed
• 3438[20:57:34] <jim> could you run this: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
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• 3440[20:58:10] <jim> can you get the source package for this mysql workbench?
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• 3442[20:59:50] <annadane> general thought experiment/question: i installed xfce and then kde and got a qt'd-altered-abomination of xfce (which actually looked decent but i started getting weird behavior)... i know debian's basic behavior is to automatically start services and automatically replace everything but is there a way to stop something like this happening?
• 3443[20:59:59] <annadane> or just, "don't install multiple full DEs on debian"
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• 3445[21:00:24] <deadmarshal> jim: yes I think the problem is it's from older debian. replaced-url
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• 3447[21:00:42] <deadmarshal> I don't know about src package
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• 3450[21:01:45] <Habbie> ,v mysql-workbench
• 3451[21:01:46] <judd> Package: mysql-workbench on amd64 -- jessie: 6.2.3+dfsg-7; stretch: 6.3.8+dfsg-1; sid: 8.0.17+dfsg-1
• 3452[21:01:57] <Habbie> ^ those three will have source packages available
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• 3459[21:03:40] <alkisg> (09:59:59 PM) annadane: or just, "don't install multiple full DEs on debian" ==> it's mostly not a matter of services but a matter of user session programs, like things in /etc/xdg/autostart, which should be cleanly separated by DE but they aren't; it's not a distro-specific matter
• 3460[21:04:44] <annadane> ah alright
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• 3464[21:07:27] <annadane> alkisg, if you don't want something in /etc/xdg/autostart... just delete it?
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• 3467[21:08:23] <alkisg> annadane: no, you're supposed to run something like `gnome-session-properties` (I don't know the name for xfce/kde), which is a dialog with startup programs, and to disable the ones you don't want, and then these are blacklisted for your specific username
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• 3472[21:11:17] <deadmarshal> can I install workbench with ubuntu .deb file?
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• 3474[21:12:21] <greycat> If the dependencies are satisfied, then it might install. It might even run. Whether it *works*, nobody can guess -- you will just have to TIAS. No promises.
• 3475[21:13:01] <annadane> i wonder if xfce-session-settings is it
• 3476[21:13:04] <annadane> list of startup programs
• 3477[21:13:43] <deadmarshal> dependencies won't work: replaced-url
• 3478[21:13:45] <annadane> i love xfce, it's full of little goodies you wouldn't expect
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• 3481[21:15:46] <annadane> deadmarshal, yeah, let's not touch stuff that needs a newer glibc
• 3482[21:15:48] <Gerowen> Anybody have an idea as to why Minecraft Java Edition would launch fine on one PC and not another? I can literally copy my files over to the other PC and when I try to launch it from the terminal I get no output or anything. Debian 10 Buster on both machines. Mine, that works fine, is using the default-jre package with openjdk 11. The other one has the exact same packages installed and it just doesn't do anything, doesn't append anything to log files
• 3483[21:15:48] <Gerowen> or anything.
• 3484[21:16:19] <annadane> or um, libc6 rather
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• 3487[21:17:11] <greycat> Gerowen: run it in a terminal, and see if there's any output
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• 3491[21:17:54] <annadane> they said they get no output
• 3492[21:18:33] <greycat> What's the command to run it?
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• 3503[21:22:13] <jim> deadmarshal, so, this mysql-workbench, it was from an earlier debian proper?
• 3504[21:22:41] <jim> , v mysql-workbench
• 3505[21:22:42] <judd> Package: mysql-workbench on amd64 -- jessie: 6.2.3+dfsg-7; stretch: 6.3.8+dfsg-1; sid: 8.0.17+dfsg-1
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• 3507[21:22:52] <deadmarshal> jim: I've downloaded a .deb file from it's website
• 3508[21:23:02] <deadmarshal> it needs dependencies that I can't install
• 3509[21:23:08] <jim> deadmarshal, you don't want to do that
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• 3511[21:23:27] <deadmarshal> I shouldn't install dependencies? :|
• 3512[21:23:33] <jim> remove that package, and build one that will work
• 3513[21:23:37] <jim> no
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• 3516[21:24:10] <jim> it's in sid (but not bullseye yet)
• 3517[21:24:41] <deadmarshal> do you have it's mirror so that I can add on sources.list?
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• 3519[21:25:00] <jim> , checkbackport mysql-workbench
• 3520[21:25:02] <judd> Backporting package mysql-workbench in sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libmysqlcppconn-dev (>= 1.1.12~).
• 3521[21:25:26] <jim> that could be trouble
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• 3523[21:25:40] <greycat> It has "mysql" in it. Trouble is guaranteed.
• 3524[21:25:54] <deadmarshal> I unistalled that broken pkg
• 3525[21:25:56] <greycat> All you need is for it to also have "php" in it, and disaster is imminent.
• 3526[21:26:13] <deadmarshal> what :|
• 3527[21:26:15] <jim> you might need all of the sid mysql to -possibly- make it work...
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• 3529[21:26:38] <jim> and you'd have to -build- it
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• 3532[21:27:31] <yokowka> heavenO everysoul! how to fix that mistake in run of sims3: какъ побороть вотъ эту ошибку Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
• 3533[21:27:44] <deadmarshal> jim: I should download it's deb file?
• 3534[21:27:54] <jim> I'm out and about for awhile... but, is there something you're doing that -requires- mysql?
• 3535[21:28:08] <jim> deadmarshal no!
• 3536[21:28:23] <deadmarshal> jim: how should I build it ?
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• 3538[21:28:48] <jim> wait, let's find an alternative, it might be easier
• 3539[21:29:28] <jim> what does it do for you?
• 3540[21:29:50] <deadmarshal> jim: what do you mean?
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• 3543[21:30:07] <jim> deadmarshal, why do you use it?
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• 3545[21:30:33] <deadmarshal> jim: I want workbench to write queries in it's gui app
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• 3548[21:32:05] <jim> deadmarshal, what if instead (for now), you wrote queries in text files, with plain text editors, then run mysql thatfile.something.whateveryounameit to test it?
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• 3552[21:32:52] <deadmarshal> jim: I guess I could do that too
• 3553[21:32:56] <jim> if you have a file that creates objects (like tables or stored funcs), then you will want another file that removes those objects
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• 3555[21:33:10] <jim> deadmarshal, just for now.
• 3556[21:33:42] <deadmarshal> jim: ok, so I don't need workbench for now
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• 3559[21:34:06] <jim> also (this is my parting shot): for new projects, consider using postgresql
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• 3565[21:35:47] <deadmarshal> jim: ok thanks
• 3566[21:35:49] <jim> deadmarshal, here's the problem: if you install packages from a different version of debian, you risk pulling in core libraries, and if those libraries get -replaced-, then the executables that are linked against it, will not work any more
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• 3568[21:36:39] <jim> you get into things like "dependency hell", "frankendebian" and other very nasty problems that take a LOT of work to fix
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• 3570[21:38:34] <jim> anyway... good luck, and maybe they'll find a way to get the workbench working again... (another alternative: you could try the sid version, by installing an additional debian onto your hard drive that is sid, and then that workbench should install
• 3571[21:38:58] <jim> but I'm telling ya, you may not want all the problems you might encounter :)
• 3572[21:39:47] <trek00> sometimes i extract the package contents to a directory and then execute it, thus using a binary package without doing a frankendebian, but it don't run fine all the time
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• 3574[21:40:07] <jim> "OH NO! sid formatted all my storage!" "oops... shouldn't a ran sid then"
• 3575[21:40:13] <jim> it'
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• 3578[21:40:25] <omarek> I'm using a new blank drive and creating an ext4 partition. Is it safe to cancel mke2fs in progress?
• 3579[21:40:31] <jim> is really not that bad, but there are unfixed problems
• 3580[21:40:36] <omarek> I want to check it for bad sectors instead.
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• 3582[21:40:59] <trek00> omarek: yes it's safe, but the fs would not be formatted correctly
• 3583[21:41:08] <yokowka> how to fix that mistake in run of game Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
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• 3585[21:42:06] <trek00> yokowka: it's a too generic error, you could try to search the web about name of game and this error message
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• 3590[21:43:05] <yokowka> trek: i serch but not found(
• 3591[21:43:13] <yokowka> *search
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• 3593[21:43:50] <yokowka> trek00, game sims3
• 3594[21:44:12] <greycat> Is it a Linux program or a Windows program that you're doing through Wine?
• 3595[21:44:33] <yokowka> not from wine
• 3596[21:44:39] <deadmarshal> jim: thanks for your thorough explanation, now I get it, I don't want to encounter that "hell" :D
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• 3598[21:45:03] <yokowka> greycat, its linux program
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• 3601[21:45:36] <yokowka> i've installed game but can't run it because window parameter....
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• 3603[21:45:50] <trek00> yokowka: what it says glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
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• 3606[21:46:54] <yokowka> trek00, it says OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile
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• 3612[21:50:39] <trek00> yokowka: well, you 3d video card is running fine, but it seems the sims 3 is only for windows, thus you should using it with wine
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• 3615[21:51:27] <trek00> yokowka: from where are you launching the game?
• 3616[21:53:02] <yokowka> from home\user\sims3.run
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• 3620[21:54:13] <trek00> yokowka: try file /home/user/sims3.run
• 3621[21:54:23] <yokowka> it was installed sucessful. when i run it opens smaller then full screan window and game begin closed
• 3622[21:54:36] <trek00> yokowka: and then, from where it comes from? steam, playonlinux, etc?
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• 3624[21:55:29] <yokowka> no this game was ported to linux and i have no plol steam wine
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• 3626[21:55:51] <greycat> But you can't say where you got it, or what "file /home/$LOGNAME/sims3.run" says?
• 3627[21:56:08] <Gerowen> greycat: I downloaded the raw archive and just tried executing the binary "minecraft-launcher" file with ./minecraft-launcher . Nothing happens, it just drops to a new terminal prompt.
• 3628[21:56:41] <Gerowen> I've found a couple of posts about issues with the version of Chrome they include with it, but it's weird that my PC runs it just fine, and I literally just copied the files from my PC to the other one.
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• 3630[21:56:51] <greycat> Gerowen: read ./minecraft-launcher and see if it's a shell script. If it is, you can maybe do "bash -x ./minecraft-launcher" and see what happens.
• 3631[21:57:18] <trek00> yokowka: well, may be the port isn't perfect, you may have different libraries version installed other than the required ones, or simply some configuration
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• 3634[21:57:46] <roflbot> Gerowen: you can probably "java -jar launcher.jar" or something
• 3635[21:57:59] <yokowka> greycat, it says run the game and same time exit of it
• 3636[21:58:40] <greycat> You ran "file /home/$LOGNAME/sims3.run" and it said "run the game and same time exit of it" ?
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• 3638[21:58:53] <Gerowen> roflbot: They did away with the .jar files, you have to use their binary launcher now.
• 3639[21:59:05] <roflbot> oh ak
• 3640[21:59:11] <Gerowen> greycat: The minecraft-launcher file has "some" readable text when I cat it, but appears to be binary.
• 3641[21:59:27] <greycat> Gerowen: strace, then. Have fun.
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• 3643[22:00:27] <yokowka> greycat, system begin load game and same time closed it because window parameter....
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• 3645[22:00:49] <greycat> Nobody can help you if you don't follow our instructions.
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• 3649[22:02:55] <Gerowen> greycat: Oh wow, thank you so much, I had never used strace, didn't even know it was a thing.
• 3650[22:03:15] <trek00> Gerowen: may be this can help to check if you have the correct libraries installed: ldd /path/to/file | grep "not found"
• 3651[22:03:18] <Gerowen> Sorted through the output and noticed it kept looking for some gconf files and complaining they didn't exist. Installed libgconf-2-4 and that fixed it.
• 3652[22:03:30] * greycat is impressed
• 3653[22:03:37] <yokowka> excuse for previous. here:/home/denis/The_Sims_3_Deluxe_Edition/sims3.run: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=dd0da0a5c516ac8bccd80457610fe1acd50b609c, stripped
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• 3655[22:04:51] <trek00> yokowka: now try ldd /home/denis/The_Sims_3_Deluxe_Edition/sims3.run | grep found
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• 3657[22:06:19] <yokowka> trek00, alredy done)
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• 3659[22:06:34] <yokowka> *already
• 3660[22:06:55] <yokowka> something else?
• 3661[22:07:30] <greycat> yokowka: any output?
• 3662[22:07:50] <trek00> yokowka: if you are on a 64-bit system, try dpkg -l | grep libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
• 3663[22:07:55] <yokowka> no. another comand line
• 3664[22:07:56] * greycat also wonders whether ldd outputs the word "found" in all locales
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• 3667[22:08:31] <trek00> graytron: i never remind that, i'm using C locale :)
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• 3671[22:10:13] <yokowka> trek00, i made command for 64 bit that is the answer ii libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 18.3.6-2 i386 free implementation of the OpenGL API -- DRI modules
• 3672[22:11:08] <trek00> yokowka: it seems you have all you need to run this game, I can't help
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• 3676[22:12:54] <yokowka> trek00, but still no run...
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• 3679[22:14:22] <trek00> yokowka: are you sure it is not a fake? I can't really find where this port came from; if it is a wrapper to wine, there is a workaround you could try
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• 3683[22:15:34] <yokowka> i read that need to enter the system with: ssh -X. how do you thing?
• 3684[22:15:46] <greycat> whaaaaaat
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• 3686[22:16:03] <greycat> please for the love of god tell me you are not trying to run the god damned Sims 3 over an ssh -X
• 3687[22:16:15] <yokowka> you mean need install wine for previous answer?
• 3688[22:16:15] <trek00> :D
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• 3690[22:17:00] <trek00> yokowka: not, i mean i can't figure out how to help you with this issue
• 3691[22:17:04] <yokowka> it was one of the answers which i find in net
• 3692[22:17:34] <jhutchins_wk> yokowka: An alternative: replaced-url
• 3693[22:17:52] <yokowka> jhutchins_wk, blagodaru
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• 3701[22:20:39] <yokowka> may be re run wineserver?
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• 3706[22:24:11] <roflbot> yokowka: dwarf fortress is like sims, but much better
• 3707[22:24:29] <roflbot> almost :p
• 3708[22:24:30] <trek00> yokowka: if it is a wine game, you should find its WINEPREFIX and then run winecfg on that prefix: how? this command will find all wineprefixes: find /home -name system.reg
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• 3710[22:26:59] <yokowka> well
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• 3714[22:29:14] <yokowka> replaced-url
• 3715[22:30:02] <trek00> yokowka: good, now try WINEPREFIX=/home/denis/.sims3 winecfg
• 3716[22:30:34] <trek00> yokowka: then enable virtual desktop and save
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• 3719[22:32:56] <yokowka> runs wine parrameters and them on rus' yazik. how ours programmers translate enable virtual desktop i can only quiz) is photo of choosing right parameters step by step?
• 3720[22:33:47] <trek00> yokowka: i don't understand this question
• 3721[22:34:12] <greycat> I think yokowka is asking "what do I do in winecfg".
• 3722[22:34:18] <trek00> yokowka: ah.. do you want a screenshot to get help with translations?
• 3723[22:34:19] <yokowka> emulate virtual desktop? such parameter is here in wine?
• 3724[22:34:30] <trek00> yokowka: yes it's that
• 3725[22:34:30] <yokowka> trek00, yes
• 3726[22:34:53] <yokowka> desktop parameters askin wine
• 3727[22:35:09] <trek00> yokowka: replaced-url
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• 3729[22:36:05] <yokowka> automatically capture make disabled?
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• 3733[22:36:59] <trek00> yokowka: not sorry, you should only enable emulate a virtual desktop
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• 3735[22:37:32] <yokowka> yes i did. now apply and close?
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• 3737[22:38:38] <trek00> yokowka: yes and then try again to launch the game
• 3738[22:38:47] <yokowka> trying)
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• 3743[22:41:21] <yokowka> trek00, when i'm running begining exit from the game, and now with no smaller size game window(
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• 3747[22:42:10] <trek00> yokowka: it runs? but in a small window?
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• 3749[22:42:40] <greycat> I'm reading "beginning exit from game" as "it starts up, then crashes". Maybe I'm wrong. His English is very poor.
• 3750[22:43:05] <yokowka> greycat, is right
• 3751[22:43:46] <trek00> yokowka: you can try to make the virtual desktop larger in winecfg, but I don't know if it will fix anyway
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• 3753[22:43:57] <trek00> yokowka: there is some error message?
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• 3755[22:44:46] <yokowka> trek00, no errors just exit when need to start up
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• 3758[22:45:39] <yokowka> in virtual desktop no choosing the definition of screen only 800x600
• 3759[22:46:23] <trek00> yokowka: it should allow you to type another size
• 3760[22:47:02] <trek00> yokowka: anyway sometime it's difficult to understand why a wine game is not running fine
• 3761[22:47:03] <yokowka> type the size instead of this paeameters manually?
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• 3763[22:47:09] <trek00> yokowka: yes
• 3764[22:47:15] <yokowka> doig
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• 3771[22:50:36] <yokowka> so no result
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• 3776[22:51:14] <trek00> yokowka: it was a try
• 3777[22:51:26] <yokowka> yes(
• 3778[22:51:41] <trek00> yokowka: may we you can search on the internet about this error message and wine, but it's difficult to resolve
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• 3780[22:53:08] <yokowka> thank you trek00
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• 3782[22:53:48] <yokowka> trek00, maybe reload wineserver?
• 3783[22:53:55] <trek00> yokowka: sad it does not help
• 3784[22:54:12] <yokowka> you shure?
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• 3786[22:54:26] <yokowka> or try?
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• 3788[22:54:48] <trek00> yokowka: may be, some time a reboot can help
• 3789[22:55:03] <yokowka> what command?
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• 3792[22:56:01] <trek00> yokowka: to restart wineserver simply killall wineserver
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• 3794[22:56:36] <yokowka> wineserver: no process
• 3795[22:56:50] <yokowka> not found
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• 3797[22:57:17] <trek00> yokowka: well no need to restart wineserver
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• 3799[22:57:31] <yokowka> yep
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• 3804[23:01:12] <yokowka> chmod +x sims3?
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• 3808[23:05:04] <trek00> yokowka: no, or it had printed another error message
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• 3811[23:06:32] <yokowka> there was no errors just new command line $/
• 3812[23:07:26] <yokowka> ./sims3 bash: ./sims3: no such file or directory
• 3813[23:07:33] <greycat> PROGRESS
• 3814[23:07:43] <yokowka> )
• 3815[23:07:45] <greycat> yokowka: what does "file ./sims3" say?
• 3816[23:07:50] <trek00> yokowka: may be this can help replaced-url
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• 3818[23:08:19] <yokowka> ./sims3: cannot open `./sims3' (No such file or directory)
• 3819[23:08:35] <greycat> Oh, not progress. You're just trying to run something that doesn't exist.
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• 3821[23:08:39] <greycat> Boo. :(
• 3822[23:08:41] <trek00> yokowka: in the section Workarounds it says "Sims 3 Launcher doesn't launch" but you can workaround launching TS3W.exe
• 3823[23:09:09] <trek00> yokowka: so you can try: find ~ -iname TS3W.exe
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• 3825[23:10:08] <yokowka> Full screen, 1920x1080p
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• 3828[23:11:27] <yokowka> replaced-url
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• 3832[23:12:21] <yokowka> game need full screen 1920x1080 i has 1366x768
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• 3835[23:13:07] <trek00> yokowka: please write that line here so I can cut & paste it
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• 3837[23:14:03] <yokowka> when i past it here nothing happend white line only with cursor
• 3838[23:14:40] <yokowka> disapered pasting line
• 3839[23:14:40] <trek00> yokowka: better, type find ~ -iname TS3W.exe | nc termbin.com 9999
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• 3841[23:15:00] <trek00> yokowka: it will print an url
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• 3843[23:15:43] <yokowka> done
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• 3845[23:15:56] <trek00> yokowka: write the url here :)
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• 3850[23:16:33] <yokowka> only new command line with cursor
• 3851[23:16:43] <yokowka> no url
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• 3853[23:17:27] <yokowka> ttps://termbin.com/rf2b
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• 3862[23:19:31] <trek00> yokowka: try: cd "/home/denis/The_Sims_3_Deluxe_Edition/data/The Sims 3 Deluxe Edition/The Sims 3/Game/Bin"; WINEPREFIX=/home/denis/.sims3 wine TS3W.exe
• 3863[23:20:15] <yokowka> ~/The_Sims_3_Deluxe_Edition/data/The Sims 3 Deluxe Edition/The Sims 3/Game/Bin$
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• 3865[23:20:54] <trek00> yokowka: WINEPREFIX=/home/denis/.sims3 wine TS3W.exe
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• 3868[23:22:27] <yokowka> replaced-url
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• 3870[23:22:55] <trek00> yokowka: sorry I have no more ideas
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• 3873[23:23:54] <yokowka> thank you for all ways to help me!!!
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• 3907[23:42:16] <karlpinc> Too bad he went away: replaced-url
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• 3909[23:42:36] <karlpinc> (although that is sims3)
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• 3929[23:55:07] <brutser> hi, i want for a qemu/kvm system, the minimal installations of the following packages: xorg, xdm, xfce4, qemu-kvm, libvirt-clients, virt-manager << basically i want to create a kvm dom0 system with the minimal packages only installed (for security reasons), but still have all the functionality. I can just install the big packages, but they will inc
• 3930[23:55:07] <brutser> lude too many packages i will never need, would you still recommend installing the bigger (complete) packages, or fine-tune it to get the minimum required?
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• 3932[23:56:19] <trek00> brutser: it depends by how much time you have and how much it would benefit to you
• 3933[23:56:36] <Habbie> brutser, you can add --no-install-recommends to strip things down a bit
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• 3937[23:56:47] <Habbie> brutser, why is all that x stuff in your list?
• 3938[23:57:15] <trek00> brutser: usually i fine-tune dependencies, even patching deb files, but then you will encounter some unexpected behavior to fix
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• 3941[23:59:51] <brutser> trek00: yes i can imagine that, but usually there are already people out there who have done the finetuning for common packages i guess?
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