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3[00:03:10] <unborn> Guest57977: flash is dead
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4[00:03:50] <awal1> Guest57977:
chromium+pepperflashplugin-nonfree or
firefox+browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash is an alternative for
adobe flash, a better alternative
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16[00:09:00] <petn-randall> It's still used in 2016? Not
on any pages I use. Only for advertisement maybe ...
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17[00:09:22] <rhe> does twitch still use flash?
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20[00:09:51] <TomTomTo1> yes, but they offer a html5 player now
too.
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22[00:09:58] <rhe> oh, nice!
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180[01:41:41] <jak2000> hi all
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181[01:42:08] <gry> hi z4g4 jak2000 :)
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192[01:48:38] <jak2000> gry, z4g4 i want a beer
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194[01:48:46] <naptastic> TIFU my dpkg trying to update
Virtualbox. Systemd blew up (double-free or corruption) during a
pre-trigger, and now I can't perform any actions that I can
think of. Help?
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195[01:49:06] <naptastic> Fairly comprehensive output (and
probably a better explanation than I've offered)
replaced-url
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200[01:50:29] <Emil> There are magic commands that are poorly
documented
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201[01:50:41] <naptastic> Emil, that sounds like exactly what I
need right now.
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202[01:50:58] <Emil> sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq
package_name
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203[01:51:02] <naptastic> If I were on an RPM system, I would do
`rpm -e --nodeps --justdb $package`
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204[01:51:03] <Emil>
replaced-url
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205[01:51:08] <naptastic> that sounds like exactly what I want
:)
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206[01:51:11] * naptastic tries it
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207[01:52:01] <gry> jak2000, you can have a virtual beer, or
come to a debconf to have a real one.
replaced-url
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208[01:52:10] <Emil>
replaced-url
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209[01:52:13] <Emil> Also this
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210[01:52:31] <Emil> I have battled same broken packages shit
out multiple times with gitlab install
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211[01:52:36] <naptastic> Emil, that did exactly the trick.
Thanks!
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213[01:53:00] <Emil> naptastic: nope problem, keywords for
search are "apt-get remove broken"
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214[01:53:05] <naptastic> I'm adding that to my notes in
case I ever run into this again. (But given this is the first time
I've had this situation in >6 years of using Debian...)
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216[01:53:50] <Emil> Yeah, I've also used Debian for quite
some time and only recently ran into it
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218[01:53:54] <naptastic> apt seems to just be smarter in times
like these, and dpkg's database just doesn't seem to get
corrupted so much...
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219[01:54:54] <Emil> Yeah, apt is better
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220[01:55:11] <Emil> Too bad apt-get comes out of the fucking
spine already :D
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233[02:01:29] <petn-randall> naptastic: This happened on which
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234[02:01:47] <naptastic> petn-randall, Sid. So, nothing to file
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236[02:02:28] <petn-randall> naptastic: Ah, I see. For the
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237[02:02:32] <naptastic> The systemd double-free worries me a
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might be something weird with this system (it has been traumatized
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238[02:02:40] <naptastic> oh that's good to know
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241[02:03:04] <naptastic> I wish everyone were on one network...
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242[02:03:16] <petn-randall> !why oftc
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243[02:03:24] * petn-randall pokes dpkg.
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244[02:03:31] <naptastic> lol
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245[02:03:44] <naptastic> it's no big deal--I'll just
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246[02:03:44] <missmbob>
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247[02:03:51] <petn-randall> Oh wait, it was
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248[02:03:54] <petn-randall> !oftc move
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249[02:03:55] <dpkg> irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th
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385[03:25:07] <awal1> I remember when using adobe flash in
youtube, for example, my machine temp. is always over 55º C.
Now with html5, temp. is stable, around 40/40º C. Why this big
difference?
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386[03:25:21] <awal1> not debian related, sorry :P
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387[03:25:43] <awal1> 40/45 ^
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389[03:27:59] <socomm> awal1: flash uses more resources
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392[03:29:29] <awal1> socomm: yes, ok. anything more apart that?
:P
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394[03:29:57] <missmbob> not really. just flash sucks.
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395[03:30:52] <socomm> awal1: Software uses more resource.
CPU/GPU starts working harder. Temperature goes up.
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396[03:31:42] <awal1> missmbob: :)
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397[03:32:39] <awal1> socomm: ok, so basically ressources
related. ok
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412[03:41:32] <Hello71> awal1: browser can use hardware decoding
in HTML5 mode. for flash it requires VDPAU and is not very stable on
Linux (crashes or even uses *more* power on some machines)
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415[03:43:26] <awal1> Hello71: hardware decoding?
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416[03:43:42] <Hello71> !g hardware video decoding
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613[06:25:04] <erdave> samba is listening on port 445 and 139
but I can't connect
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614[06:26:04] <erdave> i can access all other services in my
server (mysql, http, ssh, other stuff), but not samba.
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620[06:27:54] <erdave> -A INPUT -i wlan0 -m comment --comment
"FREE NAT TRAFFIC" -j ACCEPT
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637[06:39:24] <nick[0]> Hi! I'm trying to set up an LXC
container to connect to a VPN and provide services to both VPN
connected hosts and hosts on the physical lan. What network config
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786[08:22:50] <shortCircuit__> hi
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787[08:23:04] <shortCircuit__> is there no easy way to get the
connected network interface? I have to get all devices and then
possibly loop and check the SIOCGIFFLAGS with ioctl
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804[08:29:12] <antosamalona> Is mysql-workbench deleted from
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812[08:32:12] <th0r> antosamalona, testing is, I think, handled
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815[08:32:58] <antosamalona> th0r: I'm sorry
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816[08:33:26] <th0r> no problem...just you won't find many
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"rear" (Relax and Recover) that are included in Debian
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943[09:34:02] <CutMeOwnThroat> relax… and recover
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945[09:35:46] <CutMeOwnThroat> apparently disaster recovery
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949[09:35:59] <g00se1> nss_util.cc is mentioned in stderr when i
try to run chromium-browser in wheezy, yet i can't find that
file in any apt-file search. Why would i not be able to do so?
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951[09:36:10] <CutMeOwnThroat> now who's the butt of the
joke…
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952[09:36:33] <CutMeOwnThroat> g00se1, because it's a
source file
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953[09:37:04] <CutMeOwnThroat> you'd have to look in the
source package of chromium
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956[09:38:14] <CutMeOwnThroat> laters
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960[09:40:36] <foetus> g00se1, try 'apt-get -f
install'
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962[09:41:11] <g00se1> CutMeOwnThroat: If it's in the
source of chromium then surely it would be found by apt-file?
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969[09:42:48] <g00se1> foetus: Why so ?- it looks like a bug
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971[09:44:44] <themill> g00se1: apt-file indexes binary packages
not source packages (by default)
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972[09:44:47] <gry> I would like to run an android emulator on
debian,please tell which free package to try
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973[09:45:29] <themill> g00se1: it seems to be in the
chromium-browser source package
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975[09:47:30] <foetus> g00se1: apt-get -f install is only
installing the essentially needed packages for google-chrome,
nothing else.
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978[09:48:11] <g00se1> Really. Hmm, i'm glad i found out
that gotcha. I thought it indexed everything in the repos
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980[09:48:24] <foetus> *chromium-browser
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982[09:49:04] <g00se1> foetus: Not a deps problem - it's a
bug.
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983[09:49:20] * g00se1 thinks, anyway
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985[09:49:28] <themill> g00se1: well source packages aren't
really "in the repos" in that way. You can tell apt-file
that "source" is the architecture you want to use.
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986[09:49:40] <foetus> g00se1: ok.
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987[09:49:41] <themill> g00se1: as I said the other day, noone
is going to fix bugs in chromium in wheezy.
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993[09:51:12] <g00se1> themill: Yes. I'll probably go to
jessie soon
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998[09:53:06] <g00se1> themill: something like apt-file -a
source ... ?
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999[09:53:48] <themill> yes
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1003[09:54:41] <g00se1> Thanks - i'll give it a go
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1007[09:55:50] <eynix> Hi
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1008[09:55:54] <Tomte1> hi
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1009[09:56:05] <eynix> I'm a noob, and I block my debian
:'(
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1010[09:56:25] <Spiffy> You, what?
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1011[09:56:38] <eynix> apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing, jessie
in source.list, lsb-release say debian version is 7
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1013[09:57:50] <LargePig> done apt-get update?
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1014[09:57:54] <Spiffy> You remembered to apt-get update update?
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1015[09:58:00] <Spiffy> -update
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1017[09:58:04] <eynix> y
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1018[09:58:11] <eynix> update upgrade
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1019[09:58:29] <eynix> even clean autoclean and autoremove
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1020[09:58:32] <eynix> just in case
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1021[09:58:34] <Spiffy> Have you rebooted?
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1022[09:58:37] <eynix> y
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1023[09:58:46] <eynix> it's a dedicated serv btw
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1024[09:59:03] <eynix> (and sry for my eng :/)
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1025[09:59:07] <themill> the output of "apt-cache
policy" in a pastebin would be a good start
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1030[10:00:31] <eynix>
replaced-url
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1039[10:05:09] <r4co0n> Hi. I just installed a package
(libreoffice-l10n-de) and noticed only afterwards that I want the
packages suggested by it as well. 'apt install
--install-suggests packagename' now refuses to do anything, is
there something except of '--reinstall' to install
suggests after installing the package?
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1055[10:12:05] <eynix> themill: if you have some time later,
I've past the apt-cache policy
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1067[10:16:03] <bazhang> thanks
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1068[10:16:07] <eynix> ty
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1069[10:17:08] <themill> eynix: Can you pastebin the output of
"apt-cache policy apt libc6 dpkg perl lsb-release"?
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1075[10:18:21] <eynix> themill:
replaced-url
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1080[10:19:18] <themill> eynix: that looks just fine to me
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1081[10:19:35] <eynix> :'(
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1083[10:19:45] <eynix> I don't want to backup, reinstall and
restore
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1084[10:19:56] <themill> what's actually wrong?
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1085[10:20:20] <eynix> got to upgrade a specifi package but
it's Jessie specific
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1087[10:20:52] <themill> ?
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1089[10:21:42] <eynix> sorry for my english : I'm using
Yunohost, the 2.4 is out, I want to upgrade. But the 2.4 is Jessie
only and apparently I'm not running a Jessie
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1091[10:21:55] <eynix> and I can't figure out how to upgrade
from Wheezy to Jessie
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1092[10:22:19] <themill> you're running jessie
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1094[10:22:25] <eynix> well to me I'm on jessie (regarding
source.list)
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1095[10:22:34] <eynix> but lsb-release disagree
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1100[10:25:24] <themill> Can you pastebin "lsb_release
-a"?
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1105[10:26:21] <eynix>
replaced-url
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1106[10:26:28] <eynix> seems legit x)
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1109[10:26:49] <eynix> Description Jessie 8.6, Version: 7
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1110[10:26:50] <eynix> Ok.
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1113[10:27:55] <eynix> I'll look for a way to force an
update on lsb_release or something..
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1116[10:29:03] * themill sees no "Version" output from
lsb_release
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1119[10:30:46] <unborn> eynix: mine one looks a bit different
replaced-url
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1122[10:31:24] <eynix> unborn: that's the issue ^^'
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1126[10:32:31] <eynix> I manually edited lsb-release, and
'im rebooting
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1127[10:32:35] <eynix> we'll see
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1128[10:32:43] <eynix> thank you
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1167[11:00:10] <Trila_> does anyone how can I create a deb
package from a pip python package? I usually use stdeb but for a
specifica pip package I'm getting some errors. Do you know any
other tools/method ? thank you
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1179[11:07:28] <babilen> Trila_: Ask in #debian-python on
irc.oftc.net
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1191[11:17:10] <Trila_> babilen: thank you
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1201[11:21:22] <ctx144k> hi all
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1204[11:21:51] <ghormoon> hi, any idea why might this be
happening? if I let it run longer, it will just get dhcpoffers and
ask for new ...
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1206[11:22:44] <noobi> hi there ive been learning linux and i am
trying to sort ports from the services
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1207[11:22:48] <ctx144k> is there any easy way to define an
firewall in whitelisting conzept for outgoing applications? i want
rules like "firefox" can be out, apt-get too, but maybe
nvidia.driver not
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1209[11:23:09] <ctx144k> >
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1210[11:23:33] <noobi> ctx144k: if you go with whitelist you can
define all that can go out the rest is automatcly on the blacklist
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1211[11:23:37] <noobi> afaik
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1213[11:24:17] <ctx144k> noobi - but how to define iptables rules
for allow an application?
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1216[11:24:28] <ctx144k> i see only ports/ipadresses i can define
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1217[11:24:54] <toha1> And there it goes again changing my god
damn name without asking
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1218[11:25:01] <toha1> fucking piece of shit weechat
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1222[11:25:47] <Mahe> ctx144k:
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1223[11:26:00] <noobi> ctx144k: aww apps i dont know sorry
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1225[11:26:54] <Mahe> ctx144k: but it's tricky, you'd
have to make sure that the nvidia-driver module you wanna block is
executed as a specific user or group
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1231[11:29:18] <ctx144k> yes i see - i wld need to have an own
user/group for nvidia...
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1233[11:30:27] <ctx144k> i hate all this closed src telemtry
bullshit
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1235[11:31:08] <gry> hi, how do i install android simulator under
debian?
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1240[11:33:16] <ctx144k> thnx for informations...
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1273[11:53:36] <NoCode> "warning: connect to Milter service
inet:127.0.0.1:8891: Connection refused" -- Is this normal?
Tried Google, diagnosing the issue, messed around with some settings
and still can't seem to fix it. Though, I can send and retrieve
email.
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1275[11:54:05] <JPT> looks like a milter service is not online
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1276[11:54:07] <bhuddah> NoCode: which service are you expecting
to run on 8891? investigate your mail server config...
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1277[11:54:40] <JPT> google results suggest it may be a
dkim-milter
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1279[11:55:25] <NoCode> Yes
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1314[12:18:19] <JyZyXEL> the latest mysql upgrade on debian
jessie broke Akonadi
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1315[12:18:22] <ChrisH> Anyone else observing freshclam update
issues? At least one of my installations fails with connection
refused/connection timeouts
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1318[12:19:23] <JyZyXEL> Upgrade: mysql-server-core-5.5:amd64
(5.5.52-0+deb8u1, 5.5.53-0+deb8u1), mysql-common:amd64
(5.5.52-0+deb8u1, 5.5.53-0+deb8u1), libmysqlclient18:a md64
(5.5.52-0+deb8u1, 5.5.53-0+deb8u1)
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1319[12:19:35] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: bugreport
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1321[12:19:38] <JyZyXEL> after this upgrade i rebooted and
Akonadi would not start anymore
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1322[12:19:44] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: have you used kde backport?
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1323[12:19:49] <JyZyXEL> no
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1325[12:20:01] <JyZyXEL> [ERROR] Failed to access directory for
--secure-file-priv. Please make sure that directory exists and is
accessible by MySQL Server. Supplied value : /var/lib/mysql-files
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1327[12:20:45] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: bugreport &
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1328[12:21:44] <gebruiker>
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1333[12:22:47] <JyZyXEL> gebruiker: perhaps i should just try
somehow reverting the botched mysql upgrade?
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1334[12:23:07] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: that also seems like a
reasonable option
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1336[12:23:28] <JyZyXEL> but how does one revert them?
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1340[12:25:44] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: apt-get install
«pkg»=«version»
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1341[12:25:51] <JyZyXEL> gebruiker: adding
"secure_file_priv=" to ~/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf
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1342[12:25:56] <JyZyXEL> made it work again
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1345[12:26:32] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: great! Do not forget to bug
report so the maintainer can fix this asap
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1346[12:26:46] <JyZyXEL> what package would you even file the bug
report against
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1349[12:28:29] <gebruiker> JyZyXEL: akonadi
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1356[12:34:23] <JyZyXEL> gebruiker: Severity?
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1359[12:37:14] <JyZyXEL> ill go with important
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1360[12:37:15] <mavhq>
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1363[12:40:50] <gebruiker> mavhq: yeah configure fontconfig not
to use arial, courier new etc..
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1365[12:41:18] <gebruiker> mavhq:
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1366[12:41:45] <gebruiker> mavhq: also fontconfig infinality
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1370[12:43:51] <gebruiker> mavhq:
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1413[13:03:12] <Percevan> Hello, i have a minimal Debian install
with xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and i have a error on startup.
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1414[13:04:04] <gebruiker> mavhq: interesting solution, curious
to see the difference. Can you screenshot it?
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1555[14:07:56] <ByteStorm> guys i want to setup a tor connected
proxy in my pidgin,starting today
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1557[14:08:21] <ByteStorm> but it redirects me to the gnome proxy
setup
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1558[14:08:41] <ByteStorm> can you tell me how to setup gnome
proxy so tht it uses tor?
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1567[14:12:57] <ByteStorm> guys???
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1572[14:16:24] <noqnio1> did you select the proper port?
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1576[14:16:37] <noqnio1> also, i guess this is not the right
channel
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1581[14:18:24] <JyZyXEL> gebruiker: they just closed to bug
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1588[14:21:12] <JyZyXEL> oh finally, somebody else noticed that
it wasn't a backport but a security upgrade
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1597[14:23:54] <john_rambo> How do I replace WICD with Network
Manager ? Is there a guide ?
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1601[14:24:50] <noqnio1> it is like, the first google result
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1607[14:25:30] <john_rambo> noqnio1: I am getting results about
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1608[14:25:46] <john_rambo> noqnio1: THat is how to replace NM
with WICD
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1610[14:26:32] <noqnio1>
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1619[14:29:35] <unborn> ByteStorm: if you have tor installed on
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1624[14:30:57] <erdave> my samba is not working
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1626[14:31:45] <noqnio1> mine is
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1627[14:31:56] <erdave> though i checked that is running and
listening with netstat, and it is! but i can't browse.
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1628[14:31:57] <erdave> lol
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1644[14:39:24] <erdave> uhm... weird... it was my client
firewall...
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1645[14:39:44] <erdave> what ports should i unlock as a client
for using samba?
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1655[14:42:42] <erdave> noqnio1: but thats an input port for the
server. (i believe)
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1656[14:43:12] <erdave> i'll research it... now i'm
curious...
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1657[14:43:25] <noqnio1> maybe you are right, google also lists
139 as a candidate
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1658[14:43:27] <noqnio1> im not sure
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1659[14:43:28] <unborn> 445 tcp
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1663[14:44:07] <unborn> samba port ^^^
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1665[14:45:57] <ceegee> is a gateway required for preseeding to
fetch packages or will a http proxy work too?
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1672[14:48:23] <petn-randall> ceegee: I'm guessing
http_proxy will work, but I'd just try it and see.
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right now, actually there is no infrastructure to try and error :-)
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1684[14:51:37] <erdave> i believe its something like the ftp
"active" mode, im bounded through the port 60893
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1686[14:52:18] <erdave> but that should be an "output
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1687[14:53:14] <toruvinn> sigh. this is a bit less related to
Debian I guess, but it does happen on Debian too. ;-P anyone any
idea why mdraid (raid1) check/repair doesn't overwrite
unreadable sectors on the devices? after trying out various things,
i still have 2 pending sectors according to SMART.
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1689[14:53:37] <toruvinn> unless those WDs have really, REALLY
crappy firmware, which isn't that unlikely. :-<
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1698[14:56:21] <mapm> I am trying to install a debian 8.6 jessie
with encrypted LVM but the option is not listed, why does this
happen?
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1707[14:58:07] <mapm> the computer is a Toshiba Satellite
P30W-B-108
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1714[15:00:04] <mapm> alright I think the issue was that I
accepted the option "force UEFI boot" before, now I
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1815[15:41:33] <teclo-> afternoon, I just installed the
"base system" and I'd like to use xfce as Desktop
Environment. I guess I need to do: aptitude install
task-xfce-desktop ?
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1816[15:42:18] <pencilandpaper> No, you want: aptitude install
xfce4 xfce4-goodies
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1818[15:42:25] <pencilandpaper> teclo-: ^
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1819[15:42:44] <teclo-> pencilandpaper: ah ok...
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1820[15:42:53] <pencilandpaper> :)
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1821[15:42:55] <teclo-> uhh what's in the goodies ?
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1822[15:43:03] <teclo-> useful things or games and so on ?
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1828[15:44:06] <n4dir> rather useful than games, though i neverr
installed them. They don't seem to be useful for everyone
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1832[15:44:36] <pencilandpaper> Extra panel plugins that you may
want to use, xfce's native media player, the native text
editor, etc teclo- .
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1833[15:44:39] <n4dir> tastk-desktop will come with lots of apps,
some or lots of them you won't need. install xfce4 might be the
better option
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1836[15:45:13] <teclo-> pencilandpaper: sounds pretty good,
I'll do that :)
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1837[15:45:20] <pencilandpaper> Cool teclo- . :)
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1838[15:45:21] <n4dir> uh, well, no, i don't think that
xfce4-goodies add such, but apt-cache show might show it.
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1839[15:45:33] <pencilandpaper> It does n4dir .
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1844[15:46:34] <n4dir> i can't find that here:
replaced-url
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1847[15:47:14] <n4dir> oh, yup, i seem to have missed them.
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1850[15:47:35] <n4dir> my fault.
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1851[15:48:06] <Ox0k> Helo, Suse linux has ads that makes
"live patch" (replaced-url
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1852[15:48:08] <Ox0k> ?
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1853[15:48:15] <pencilandpaper>
replaced-url
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1857[15:49:09] <pencilandpaper>
replaced-url
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1858[15:49:10] <n4dir> yes, yes, that's where i've
looked. You were right. I didn't install them for years and
should have said nothing.
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1859[15:49:22] <pencilandpaper> Its ok, no worries. :)
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1860[15:49:35] <pencilandpaper> I install it by default now with
xfce4.
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1862[15:50:08] <n4dir> yeah, many like it to enhance xfce4.
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1920[16:15:17] <Joost> can someone briefly summarize the
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1921[16:15:54] <Joost> they seem to be quite different beasts
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1945[16:22:52] <petn-randall> Joost: There exist several package
versions of libusb. They're just different, incompatible API
versions. If you want to program against it, just pick the one with
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1947[16:23:13] <petn-randall> (or pick the one for the target OS
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2164[17:03:05] <kion> Every time I boot I have to open the Nvidia
X-server settings and re apply my settings, is there a way to have
Debian do that automaticlly at boot?
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2177[17:08:39] <baraba> how do you re apply your settings?
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2178[17:08:48] <baraba> kion
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2181[17:10:00] <kion> baraba, just opening the Nvidia x server
settings does re apply my settings...
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2187[17:10:38] <baraba> quick googling kion:
replaced-url
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2197[17:13:57] <vektorweg1> hello, i updated kernel and X
drivers, but now mouse acceleration settings for my mouse don't
work anymore. when i use e.g. xset the settings are only applied to
the touchpad. one of the packages installed was
xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1.9.1-1. i tested 1.9.1-1+b1 without any
effect. i'm running jessie. some hints to fix this?
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2210[17:18:01] <kion> baraba, yes I did find that page before but
it didn't work for me
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2211[17:18:12] <kion> baraba, thanks anyways
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2223[17:23:47] <xVim> Hi. I am running Debian Jessie with GNOME
and installed gnome-shell-pomodoro via aptitude. When I try to start
this program a process is started (as I can tell via ps -aux), but
nothing else happens - no window appears and no error message is
printed out. How can I figure out why this program is not working?
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2226[17:24:16] <xVim> I have gnome-shell-extensions installed
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2255[17:41:33] <Howdy> can anybody shed some insight on mouse
freezing in Windows 10 guest ?
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2259[17:42:05] <han-solo> windows?
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2261[17:42:19] <han-solo> ask in #windows, i guess
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2262[17:42:22] <unborn> :D
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2263[17:42:37] <Howdy> Running Debian 8 & running windows 10
using Xen
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2264[17:42:55] <unborn> I do only virtualbox.. sorry
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2265[17:42:57] <petn-randall> Howdy: Does the mouse work fine
outside of the guest window?
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2266[17:42:58] <Howdy> mouse if freezing but keyboard is working
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2267[17:43:00] <Howdy> after a while
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2268[17:43:05] <Howdy> yes
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2273[17:43:31] <petn-randall> Howdy: How does it freeze? Does it
just turn invisible, or is it stuck?
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2274[17:43:39] <Howdy> petn-randall: Yes, I can ctrl - alt &
move out of guest & mouse is fine
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2275[17:44:03] <Howdy> well this time I noticed it was on screen
just not moving the arrow
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2278[17:44:18] <petn-randall> Howdy: When it freezes, can you
right click to open the context menu?
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2280[17:44:29] <SwedeMike> Howdy: if there is a #xen channel,
might make sense to ask there.
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2282[17:44:55] <Howdy> SwedeMike: I will try there too
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2286[17:45:22] <Howdy> Petn-randall: not sure what you mean by
context menu
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2288[17:45:45] <Howdy> its usually frozen on some app window
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2290[17:45:51] <Howdy> Or I don't even see it
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2293[17:46:22] <petn-randall> Howdy: If you right click on the
desktop, a menu pops up. I want to find out if the guest
doesn't get any input events from the mouse, or if it is just a
cosmetic issue (the mouse pointer not being drawn correctly).
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2295[17:46:28] <Howdy> don't think it has frozen on windows
background where I can right click it
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2303[17:47:39] <Howdy> not cosmetic for sure since I move the
mouse & right click left click everywhere
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2309[17:48:05] <Howdy> while this is happening the keyboard is
still working & guest vm is responding
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2310[17:48:17] <Howdy> I exit from the Vinrage & go back in
& the mouse is still stuck
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2311[17:48:38] <Howdy> rebooting the guest fixes it but this is
really annoying
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2320[17:51:37] <petn-randall> Howdy: I use kvm myself, so
I'm stuck from here on. Maybe someone else can help you any
further.
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2321[17:52:21] <Howdy> is KVM better then Xen?
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2322[17:52:34] <Howdy> I want to eventually use this for Gaming
as well
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2323[17:52:40] <Howdy> with pci pass thru
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2327[17:53:48] <Howdy> i have not played bf4 in months leading to
more refreshments type of hang outs on the weekend
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2329[17:53:55] <Howdy> I need my BF4
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2340[17:57:58] <mark4> what version of the linux kernel does the
latest debian live dvd use?
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2344[17:58:51] <jelly> mark4: something around 3.16.36
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2347[17:59:32] <mark4> utterly useless to me. it wont boot my
primary laptop
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2348[17:59:39] <mark4> scratch debian off the list :/
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2350[18:00:09] <petn-randall> !next
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2351[18:00:10] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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2354[18:01:18] <Howdy> so do you guys think KVM is more stable
then XEN?
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2359[18:02:49] <mark4> ok so... how difficult would it be to
install debian when booting to some OTHER distros live dvd?
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2360[18:02:51] <jelly> petn-randall: he's back!
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2361[18:03:03] <mark4> the arch linux live dvd is a 4.7 kernel
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2362[18:03:26] <jhutchins> Howdy: It's really a matter of
what works best for you, there is no universal answer or there
wouldn't be choices.
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2364[18:03:53] <jelly> mark4: that's covered in the install
guide, "debootstrap" method
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2367[18:04:18] <jhutchins> Howdy:
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2368[18:04:21] <TomTomTosch>
replaced-url
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2370[18:04:36] <jelly> !ig
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2371[18:04:36] <dpkg> The Installation Guide for Debian 8
"Jessie" can be found at
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2373[18:05:06] <mark4> jelly ty. its been over 10 years since i
used debian lol. im a dedicated gentoo user but i cannot get my
desktop up and running on my primary laptop in gentoo because of the
hybrid graphcs and an ultra new nvidia card (at least 2 years old
you know)
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2378[18:05:53] <jelly> mark4: if your hardware requires a later
kernel, there's one in
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2379[18:05:56] <jelly> !bdo
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2380[18:05:56] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable
(<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
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2381[18:06:07] <jelly> !bdo kernel
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2382[18:06:07] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases
are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask
me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then
run «aptitude update». To install the current backported
kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install
linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To
list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude
search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian
Backports))'».
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2384[18:06:28] <Howdy> Jhutchins:Thanks, I am new to linux &
just saw a guide for xen so I used xen
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2385[18:06:43] <jelly> mark4: for further clues, ask the bot on
your own, eg: /msg dpkg jessie backports
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2387[18:06:54] <mark4> jelly ty
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2389[18:07:30] <mark4> does debians install dvd boot to desktop
or console?
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2391[18:07:56] <jhutchins> mark4: Depends on which image and what
options you choose.
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2393[18:08:01] <jelly> it can do both, damn if I remember
what's the default
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2396[18:08:28] <jhutchins> jelly: iirc it's usually non-X
graphics.
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2398[18:08:30] <mark4> aha kk. not much point in installing
"distribution X" if it cannot prove up front that it will
work lol
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2403[18:09:04] <jhutchins> mark4: Very few of the pure installers
use X. Live image installers will.
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2404[18:09:15] <jelly> eh, any distro can be made to work IF
there are drivers for linux somewhere
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2414[18:11:12] <mark4> jelly i have not been able to get gentoo
working on my primary laptop in about 8 months. i can revert to an 8
month old kernel version and 8 month old nvidia version but i dont
want to be locked in the stone age
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2415[18:11:18] <mark4> so im experimenting
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2416[18:11:19] <zykotick9> anyone happen to know what a (!) means
in htop after uptime? example: Uptime: 163 days(!), 22:15:39 - i
don't see any mention of it in the man page
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2424[18:14:14] <Stadtpirat> Say, in my early days I used to
start/stop services by "/etc/init.d/<service>
start/stop". Then I learned about "service <service>
start/stop" which should be just a wrapper for that afaik. Am I
correct that "systemctl start/stop <service>" is now
the way to go?
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2427[18:15:07] <zykotick9> Stadtpirat: sidenote, not everything
is a systemd service yet... so a mix is probably required
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2438[18:16:52] <Stadtpirat> Apart from the technology behind it,
I really wished they'd choose a command easier to type than
systemctl, ugh ^^
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2449[18:18:33] <Kobaz> hey, anyone have any tips on installing
hplip without having to install systemd that it has as a dependency?
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2461[18:22:35] <TomTomTosch> zykotick9: it's an easter egg
that shows after 100 days of uptime.
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2463[18:23:10] <i11ega1Code> tzdate sets wrong time
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2465[18:23:46] <i11ega1Code> date shows: Tue Nov 8 01:23:39
Netherlands 2016
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2474[18:26:07] <samba35> i am planning to setup a mail server for
my own use (not as hillary :) ) for that what i will require ?
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2475[18:26:14] <i11ega1Code> anyone here?
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2481[18:27:33] <jelly> i11ega1Code: which debian release is that?
What does "LC_ALL=C date --utc" say?
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2483[18:27:45] <zykotick9> TomTomTosch: thanks.
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2486[18:28:02] <TomTomTosch> Stadtpirat: well, you can just set
an alias if it bothers you.
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2489[18:28:35] <i11ega1Code> hello jelly, i just did date --set
which worked
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2491[18:28:52] <jelly> i11ega1Code: that doesn't mean you
fixed it, tho.
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2492[18:29:04] <TomTomTosch> Stadtpirat: and yes, everything in
jessie should work with systemd.
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2493[18:29:40] <Stadtpirat> nice thx
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2497[18:30:18] <jelly> samba35: 3-6 months of patience, unless
you already know a ton of stuff about mail
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2500[18:30:42] <samba35> ic
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2503[18:31:17] * jelly tries to convince erryone not to selfhost mail
services
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2504[18:31:19] <TomTomTosch> zykotick9: if it interests you, here
is the relevant piece of code (line 41)
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2505[18:31:33] <Howdy> Why we even talking bout Billary n Trump
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2506[18:31:36] <Howdy> there was Johnson
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2508[18:31:47] <jelly> Howdy: ignore the spam, please
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2509[18:31:57] <TomTomTosch> zykotick9: if days > 100 it sets
a (!) behind days, nothing more going on.
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2510[18:31:58] <Howdy> Tru
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2525[18:37:20] <i11ega1Code> jelly how do i fix it?
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2537[18:40:47] <gebruiker> i11ega1Code: you throw some women and
let them fight in the jelly
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2539[18:41:04] <i11ega1Code> lol
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2544[18:42:01] <kareelee> guys what's an alternative to
iptables ?
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2553[18:43:06] <TomTomTosch> ferm is a frontend for iptables that
i sometimes like to use.
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2555[18:43:11] <gebruiker> kareelee: linux kernel has only
iptables but i there are some side projects like dummynet, a linux
port of the bsd firewall
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2556[18:43:29] <kareelee> PF ?
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2557[18:43:47] <gebruiker>
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2562[18:44:57] <kareelee> gebruiker: I was reading a lot that
iptables is old and may be replaced in the near future
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2565[18:45:16] <kareelee> I don't say i believe them, I just
ask to see what choices you have
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2566[18:45:25] <kareelee> I've been using openBSD and PF for
a long time
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2567[18:45:43] <kareelee> but I am setting up a RPI and I want to
setup a firewall there :)
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2569[18:46:17] <gebruiker> I am not sure if dummynet is at a
mature stage kareelee
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2571[18:46:57] <jhutchins> kareelee: Some of IP tables is old
because it already addressed necessary things years ago, and those
things haven't changed. Other parts are newer and deal with
newer things.
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2573[18:47:27] <jhutchins> kareelee: iptables is what you should
use; there are front ends that can make it easier to configure, but
you can also just write the rules in a script.
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2574[18:47:30] <kareelee> jhutchins: so If you want to invest in
building a device you'd use iptables ?
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2575[18:47:31] <rattking> kareelee: you might be thinking of
nftables
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2576[18:47:52] <kareelee> sure, rules in a file
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2577[18:47:56] <jhutchins> kareelee: If you're running
linux, iptables is what does the job.
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2579[18:48:01] <kareelee> thank you
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2585[18:49:55] <kion> maybe we will start using more ip6tables in
the near future... but it works exactly the same
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2591[18:52:14] <jelly> i11ega1Code: first you show the output of
that one command, so someone here can see if your clock is actually
correct now or not
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2592[18:52:32] <jelly> i11ega1Code: which debian release is that?
What does "LC_ALL=C date --utc" say?
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2602[18:59:30] <r3m> ,v bitlbee
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2603[18:59:47] <judd> Package: bitlbee on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.0.5-1.2; jessie: 3.2.2-2+b1; stretch: 3.4.2-1.1; sid: 3.4.2-1.1
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2634[19:10:34] <Meerkat> Videos in VLC is of garbage quality. I
think it is because I updated my drivers unless there is a new known
bug around.
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2640[19:11:34] <mtn> Meerkat: which version of debian and how did
you update your drivers?
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2642[19:13:10] <Meerkat> I'm on Debian 8. nvidia drivers 352
to 367. I removed old drivers by purging their packages and
installed nvidia-driver from jessie-backports.
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2643[19:13:37] <Meerkat> So far I can only see that VLC videos
were affected. Netflix and games are flawless.
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2648[19:14:44] <i11ega1Code> jelly: after i set it manually by
date --set it says this: Mon Nov 7 19:14:08 UTC 2016
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2651[19:14:57] <mtn> Meerkat: if you go back to the older driver,
does it work fine?
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2655[19:15:16] <Meerkat> I'm curious as to how.
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2656[19:15:21] <Meerkat> I'd like to try it.
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2658[19:15:59] <mtn> Meerkat: just reverse what you did before
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2665[19:18:12] <Meerkat> mtn, the old driver version doesn't
seem to be available on jessie-backports anymore.
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2667[19:18:32] <mtn> Meerkat: is that where you got it? not from
the standard repos?
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2668[19:18:47] <Meerkat> yes
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2670[19:19:14] <Meerkat> the standard repo only has version 340
which was too old for some game I played before. I'd rather not
go back that far.
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2680[19:22:41] <mtn> Meerkat: I don't know much about
nvidia, but can you adjust the card settings?
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2683[19:23:12] <jhutchins> !snapshot
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2696[19:26:26] <Phen> Hey guys. I screwed up big time, and I need
to boot debian off of a usb stick through grub. I've done some
googling, and the instructions i've found are for booting the
installation image, which works fine. I need to boot an actual
working debian image though, how would i go about doing that?
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2698[19:26:41] <Kobaz> Phen: knoppix
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2699[19:26:50] <nkuttler> Phen: supergrub
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2701[19:27:15] <jhutchins> Phen: Get a live image.
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2702[19:27:17] <jhutchins> !live
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2703[19:27:17] <dpkg> The Debian Live project provides pre-built
Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can
be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from
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2704[19:27:27] <Phen> jhutchins did that already
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2705[19:27:31] <Phen>
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2706[19:27:45] <rudi_s> !grml
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2707[19:27:45] <dpkg> grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally
<based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of
GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system
administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing
systems/networks or as a working environment.
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2708[19:27:46] <Phen> I worked off of this guide, but i pointed
grub to the live vmlinuz and the live initrd
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2709[19:27:56] <jelly> Phen: where do you have grub installed, on
the same usb stick or some other disk?
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2711[19:28:06] <Phen> on the HDD on my computer
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2712[19:28:26] <jhutchins> Phen: Does your bios not boot from
USB?
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2713[19:28:28] <rozie> Phen: why do you need to use grub to boot
from usb?
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2715[19:28:54] <Phen> because my computer boots into grub
immidiately after booting into the USB
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2716[19:29:07] <Phen> and i cant change the boot order because i,
uh, forgot the BIOS supervisor password
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2717[19:29:08] <jelly> Phen: you should be able to open a grub
editor or command line and fix the devices and paths
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2718[19:29:33] <nkuttler> Phen: check your manual for how to
reset the board
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2719[19:29:54] <Phen> I know how to, i just need to pop out the
coin battery on my mobo for a few minutes
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2721[19:30:06] <Phen> but will that destroy my boot setup?
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2723[19:30:26] <rozie> that will reset password
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2724[19:30:28] <nkuttler> Phen: you boot from the disk, not the
board
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2725[19:30:30] <jelly> that will destroy any bios settings
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2726[19:30:48] <nkuttler> so, depending on what boot setup means,
it might
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2727[19:31:19] <Phen> Ok, forget about the USB for a second, lets
say I reset my mobo, and start my computer, will everything still
boot into grub?
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2729[19:31:24] <rozie> still, many bioses have separate key to
change boot order
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2730[19:31:37] <rozie> not sure if admin pass is needed there
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2732[19:31:52] <flr> Hey
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2735[19:32:13] <rozie> Phen: that doesn't matter. you will
be able to change the boot order then...
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2736[19:32:21] <jelly> Phen: maybe, maybe not, but you'll
probably be able to change the settings to boot off the right disk
in case it doesn't boot the same grub from the same disk
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2738[19:33:19] <Phen> i dont get why booting through grub doesnt
work though
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2739[19:33:35] <Phen> Its a live image, it should be more or less
self contained, right?
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2743[19:33:54] <nkuttler> Phen: what is a live image?
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2745[19:34:38] <flr> Hey guys, it'd be awesome if someone
could help me, please. I think that I got a quite "simple"
problem - the device isn't connecting to the wireless network
automaticly (
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2746[19:34:41] <Phen> Isn't it just a debian installation
that can be booted off of removable media?
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2749[19:35:13] <nkuttler> Phen: the debian live image? yeah
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2750[19:35:29] <Phen> alright
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2752[19:35:43] <Phen> so then how come pointing grub to the live
vmlinuz and the live initrd
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2753[19:35:48] <Phen> and then running boot doesnt work
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2758[19:36:17] <nkuttler> Phen: you shouldn't have to point
the live image grub at anything, it can boot the image on it's
own
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2759[19:36:29] <nkuttler> Phen: if that doesn't happen, it
sounds like your image is corrupt
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2764[19:37:01] <Phen> nkuttler its not booting from USB because
my BIOS boot order is different and im not in a position to change
it
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2765[19:37:16] <nkuttler> Phen: so why do we talk about this live
image at all?
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2766[19:37:17] <Phen> so I more or less need to go through grub
for now, but my original question is why doesnt it owkr
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2768[19:37:52] <Phen> Because the debian install on my hdd is
destroyed
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2769[19:37:55] <nkuttler> oh wait, you want to boot the live
image with the grub on your hd, got it
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2770[19:38:01] <Phen> yes
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2773[19:38:26] <nkuttler> anyway, just reset the board
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2774[19:38:38] <Phen> but wont that kill my grub setup?
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2776[19:38:47] <nkuttler> Phen: no
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2779[19:39:21] <Phen> so if i reset the board, and then reboot,
my computer will boot into grub like normal?
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2780[19:39:36] <nkuttler> Phen: do you mean the grub on usb?
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2782[19:39:53] <nkuttler> Phen: you said your disk is destroyed,
nobody know what happens when you boot it
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2783[19:40:02] <Phen> its not the disk thats destroyed
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2784[19:40:36] <Phen> just the debian installation. I cant boot
into it, but I think i can fix it if i can get another linux
instance running, then mount that partition and run some stuff
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2794[19:42:37] <Phen> but how do i boot debian installed on a
flash drive through my hdd grub
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2795[19:43:29] <flr> so no one got any hint for me?
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2799[19:44:05] <nkuttler> flr: i just use network-manager..
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2801[19:44:21] <flr> commandline
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2802[19:44:39] <nkuttler> well, there is nmcli
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2803[19:44:44] <flr> but thx anyway
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2804[19:45:10] <Phen> does grml have aptitude?
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2807[19:45:51] <jelly> Phen: yes, why do you ask about grml?
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2810[19:46:13] <Phen> i need to boot a linux image off of my
flash drive using the grub on my hdd
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2813[19:46:40] <jelly> and where does grml fit?
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2815[19:47:16] <Phen> it was suggested by several people here
when i mentioned that the debian live image doesnt work when booted
form the grub on my hdd
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2818[19:48:12] <jelly> not sure how adding a _second_ usb device
is going to help, but alright
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2820[19:48:41] <Phen> there's only 1 usb device
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2821[19:48:52] <jelly> where would you put grml then
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2822[19:49:06] <Phen> on the usb device currently containing the
debian live image
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2823[19:49:33] <jelly> where's your debian installation,
then?!
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2824[19:49:40] <Phen> on the hard drive
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2825[19:49:54] <jelly> and you also have grub on the hard drive
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2826[19:50:09] <jelly> and grub boots up and can be worked with
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2827[19:50:20] <Phen> yup
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2828[19:50:39] <Phen> its just the debian installation thats
boned
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2830[19:50:54] <jelly> broken how?
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2835[19:51:19] <Phen> I was hoping that I could save myself the
embarassment, but i guess not. I rm -rf'd /etc
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2838[19:51:38] <Phen> I was fiddling around with a rootfs for a
beagle bone black and i got my /etc's mixed up
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2839[19:51:39] <jelly> and you don't have a backup?
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2840[19:51:44] <Phen> nope
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2841[19:52:02] <jelly> whoops
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2842[19:52:03] <nkuttler> ugh, just reinstall
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2843[19:52:05] <Phen> but apperently there's somehting that
can recover deleted files off of ext4 filesystems
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2844[19:52:13] <greycat> ...
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2845[19:52:22] <greycat> Back up /home *now*, and then reinstall.
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2846[19:52:28] <jelly> Phen: nope, forget about that. Your other
files are fine tho.
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2847[19:52:39] <Phen> /home is backed up
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2848[19:52:51] <noqnio1> Hey. I am running jessie with Nvidia
prop. drivers from experimental. apt suggested to autoremove some
packages and i did it without thinking, now an application needs
libcudart6.5 but i can't install it, not from stable neither
from experimental. Is is only a i386 package?
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2849[19:52:54] <Phen> First thing i did when i realized something
went wrong
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2851[19:53:03] <jelly> then fix your bios, boot off live media,
and reinstall
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2852[19:53:19] <Phen>
replaced-url
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2853[19:53:30] <nkuttler> ,v libcudart6.5
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2854[19:53:31] <judd> No package named 'libcudart6.5'
was found in amd64.
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2855[19:53:33] <Phen> can I reinstall without having to reinstall
grub?
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2857[19:53:46] <greycat> grub is like the LEAST of your problems
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2858[19:53:48] <noqnio1> Removing libcudart6.5:amd64
(6.5.19-3~bpo8+1) ...
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2859[19:53:49] <noqnio1> :(
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2860[19:53:49] <jelly> Phen: you will want to reinstall grub at
some point
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2862[19:54:07] <nkuttler> noqnio1: looks like it
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2863[19:54:11] <noqnio1> nkuttler: what do you mean
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2865[19:54:16] <jelly> ,v libcudart6.5
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2866[19:54:17] <judd> No package named 'libcudart6.5'
was found in amd64.
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2868[19:54:24] <nkuttler> noqnio1:
replaced-url
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2870[19:54:36] <noqnio1> oh.
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2871[19:54:45] <noqnio1> but im running the experimental drivers,
how can it be in backports
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2872[19:55:03] <jelly> ,v libcudart7.5
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2873[19:55:05] <judd> Package: libcudart7.5 on amd64 --
jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1
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2877[19:55:24] * greycat is confused by this package that exists only
in jessie-backports
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2878[19:55:33] <Phen> I'm not sure what to do if i have grub
installed already. Can i just boot from a live image and go through
the install process like normal?
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2879[19:55:44] <nkuttler> noqnio1: btw, don't mix stable +
experimental..
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2880[19:55:47] <jelly> noqnio1: likely the packaging has changed
in sid (and experimental) since
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2881[19:56:03] <nkuttler> Phen: fix your bios already
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2882[19:56:10] <noqnio1> nkuttler: i know it is not advised but
some times it is the only option!
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2883[19:56:17] <noqnio1> i tried to install it from bp now and
still it cant find it
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2884[19:56:19] <jelly> nkuttler: nvidia drivers are supposed to
be a tiny exception to that rule. The maintainers try to take care
they're installable even on stable.
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2886[19:56:29] <nkuttler> jelly: i see
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2887[19:56:39] <jelly> sometimes they miss things, apparently
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2889[19:57:19] <noqnio1> i have non-free in backports on my
sources.list, but still apt-get cant find it :s
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2890[19:57:28] <greycat> noqnio1: /lastlog judd
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2891[19:57:52] <jelly> noqnio1: pastebin the output of
"apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache search
libcudart"
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2893[19:58:18] <jelly> noqnio1: don't forget to run an
"apt-get update" before
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2896[19:59:57] <noqnio1>
replaced-url
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2900[20:00:25] <noqnio1> apt-get install -t jessie-backports
libcudart6.5 <-- thats what i tried
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2901[20:01:01] <flr> nkuttler: thanks :)
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2914[20:05:35] <noqnio1> i don't get it, how can
packages.debian.org list it as in jessie-backports and apt cant find
it
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2919[20:06:46] <noqnio1> it also removed linvblas which i
can't find either, does that mean my cuda is ruined?
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2926[20:09:02] <jhutchins> noqnio1: Do you see backports when you
do an apt update?
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2927[20:09:07] <noqnio1> yes
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2929[20:09:31] <noqnio1> Get:45
replaced-url
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2930[20:09:31] <jhutchins> noqnio1: Do an apt search then,
perhaps part of the version number is actually part of the package
name.
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2932[20:09:49] <noqnio1> root@darwin:/etc/apt# apt-cache search
libcudart*
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2933[20:09:49] <noqnio1> libcudart7.5 - NVIDIA CUDA Runtime
Library
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2935[20:10:04] <jhutchins> noqnio1: Do you have main and contrib
as well?
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2938[20:10:12] <molavy> hi
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2939[20:10:12] <noqnio1> yes
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2941[20:10:40] <molavy> i just installed debian on VPS, but on
ping google.com can't connect any site
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2942[20:10:43] <jhutchins> noqnio1: Then I suppose it's
possible your repo has a glitch.
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2944[20:10:58] <jhutchins> noqnio1: You should be able to browser
the repo and download it, or try another repo.
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2946[20:11:44] <molavy> any idea?
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2947[20:11:45] <noqnio1> i changed from httpiredir to
ftp.de.debian and again nothing
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2949[20:12:18] <molavy> i connected to VPS using ssh but
can't ping google and any other site
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2951[20:13:08] <molavy> apt-get update also remain at
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2952[20:13:08] <molavy> 0% [Connecting to httpredir.debian.org]
[Connecting to security.debian.org]
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2953[20:13:29] <molavy> any idea?
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2954[20:13:37] <missmbob> !httpredir issues
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2955[20:13:37] <dpkg> The <httpredir> service selects bad
mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly
choosing a mirror: "deb
replaced-url
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2958[20:14:48] <kion> molavy, seems like you don't have
internet access, check you network card, firewall rules, etc...
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2960[20:15:42] <molavy> i can connect to vps using ssh, but seems
true, i will disable firewall
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2961[20:15:44] <molavy> thanks
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2979[20:20:48] <noqnio1> is it possible that they removed
libcudart6.5 from the repos? and why would they do that?
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2981[20:21:32] <molavy> kion: how can i disable iptables and
firewall
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2983[20:22:26] <kion> molavy, what does sudo iptables -L -vn
gives you?
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2987[20:23:32] <molavy> kion:
replaced-url
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2990[20:24:37] <missmbob> molavy: did you not see what the bot
said about httpredir ?
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2991[20:25:26] <kion> molavy, your firewall is configured to
allow all traffic, the problem is somewhere else
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2993[20:26:37] <kion> molavy, can you see network interfaces with
'sudo ifconfig' ? like eth0 or wlan0?
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2995[20:26:54] <missmbob> it has nothing to do with that. sigh.
otherwise he wouldn't be able to ssh in
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2998[20:27:58] <kion> missmbob, I guess you are right
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3003[20:29:01] <noqnio1> so, libcudart6.5 seems to have
disappeared. Is there a place where people in the repositories give
reasoning behind their acts?
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3004[20:29:25] <kion> molavy, if you ping 8.8.8.8 what happens?
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3013[20:31:59] <kion> molavy, did you say you could ssh into your
debian box?
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3014[20:32:05] <missmbob> noqnio1: because it became libcudart8.0
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3017[20:32:28] <missmbob> got replaced by i should say
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3021[20:33:14] <noqnio1> but why should the previous version
disappear, i can't run certain programs now
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3022[20:33:31] <noqnio1> where are the .deb files inside a
repository?
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3023[20:33:33] <missmbob> so you upgraded from jessie and broke
stuff?
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3024[20:33:38] <greycat> noqnio1: in the pool directory
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3026[20:34:08] <noqnio1> i updated, and then autoremove
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3027[20:34:19] <greycat> Never autoremove.
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3028[20:34:26] <greycat> Stupidest stupidest STUPIDEST feature
ever created.
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3029[20:34:46] <molavy> kion: yes
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3030[20:34:49] <missmbob> noqnio1: are you still in jessie?
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3031[20:34:54] <noqnio1> yes
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3032[20:34:55] <kion> greycat, why is that? I allways have done
it when apt asks for it
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3033[20:35:03] <missmbob> noqnio1: so get it from
jessie-backports. it's still there
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3035[20:35:08] <noqnio1> it is not :(
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3036[20:35:18] <missmbob> ,v libcudart6.5
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3037[20:35:19] <judd> No package named 'libcudart6.5'
was found in amd64.
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3038[20:35:30] <molavy> kion: ping 8.8.8.8 not show any result
hang on
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3039[20:35:33] <greycat> kion: see what noqnio1 is saying for an
example. He had an old version of a lib that he was actually *using*
(presumably stuff he compiled from source, not packaged) and now
it's gone.
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3041[20:35:42] <missmbob> noqnio1:
replaced-url
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3042[20:35:43] <noqnio1> yes, it was compiled from source
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3043[20:35:45] <kion> molavy there is something very strange, in
you iptables report, you have 0 packets gone trough the INPUT chain,
at least the packets from your ssh session should show there
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3045[20:35:57] <noqnio1> missmbob: i see that, but it is not
really there
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3046[20:36:04] <kion> molavy, maybe you are ssh'ing into a
wrong address
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3047[20:36:19] <noqnio1> root@darwin:/etc/apt# apt-get install -t
jessie-backports libcudart6.5
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3048[20:36:19] <noqnio1> E: Package 'libcudart6.5' has
no installation candidate
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3049[20:36:24] <missmbob> noqnio1: that package is i386 only. are
you using multiarch? you needed that libary for a 32-bit binary,
right?
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3050[20:36:37] <noqnio1> no, i was using the amd64 version
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3052[20:37:01] <greycat> noqnio1: it exists when I click the i386
link and then select the URL and wget --spider -S it.
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3053[20:37:06] <missmbob> molavy: or you could read what i had
the bot tell you about httpredir
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3054[20:37:26] <noqnio1> i need the amd64 version
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3055[20:37:34] <greycat> there isn't one
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3057[20:37:52] <jelly> noqnio1: maybe you an find old packages on
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3059[20:37:54] <jelly> !sdo
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3060[20:37:54] <dpkg>
replaced-url
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3062[20:37:58] <kion> molavy, the 0 packets trough your Chains in
iptables, show a system that is not connected to any network at all,
I have no idea how can you ssh into it,
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3064[20:38:21] <greycat> You could download the source package
and try to build it. I don't know how this package works.
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3067[20:38:54] <molavy> kion:
replaced-url
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3068[20:39:35] <molavy> missmbob: seems that that is not my
problem
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3069[20:39:42] <molavy> i can't ever ping google.com
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3070[20:39:49] <noqnio1> thank you jelly
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3071[20:40:23] <missmbob> you really need to lead with that. cat
/etc/networks wont help any or show anything useful. did you edit
/etc/resolv.conf and add nameservers in there?
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3072[20:40:46] <missmbob> something like "nameserver
8.8.8.8" with no quotes
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3074[20:40:54] <jhutchins> Wouldn't there be a step of
enabling ip forwarding somewhere?
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3075[20:41:06] <lutralontra> i have an older macbook pro (9,2)
and i want to put debian on it. do i need to keep os x around? this
page makes no reference of that:
replaced-url
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3076[20:41:14] <molavy> missmbob:
replaced-url
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3077[20:41:30] <lutralontra> i mean do i need to keep os x to
boot my system
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3078[20:41:31] <noqnio1> how has this marvelous debian snapshot
thingy missed my sights
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3079[20:41:39] <kion> missmbob, He has not have a single packet
into his computer!!! it is not DNS related..
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3082[20:41:58] <kion> missmbob, check his iptables report up
there
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3083[20:41:59] <jhutchins> lutralontra: You might need osx for
things like bios updates.
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3085[20:42:35] <jhutchins> lutralontra: If you have install media
for later, you could go ahead and wipe the disk.
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3086[20:43:05] <jhutchins> lutralontra: I do know that people
commonly do that with macs, dual boot is actually a bit challenging.
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3089[20:43:22] <jhutchins> !mac
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3090[20:43:23] <dpkg> [mac] Media Access Control, see <mac
change>; Macintosh, see <apple>, <m68k>,
<macbook>, <powerpc>, <macsound>; Mandatory Access
Control, see <apparmor>, <selinux>, <tomoyo>;
Monkey's Audio Codec, see <ape>.
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3092[20:43:30] <gebruiker> !release stretch
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3094[20:43:45] <jhutchins> !macbook
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3095[20:43:45] <dpkg> macbook is probably
replaced-url
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3098[20:43:58] <gebruiker> !stretch release date
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3099[20:44:03] <missmbob> gebruiker:
replaced-url
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3100[20:44:10] <jhutchins> gebruiker: When it's ready.
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3103[20:44:20] <gebruiker> missmbob: thanks
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3109[20:46:21] <lutralontra> jhutchins: ok, so i should be able
to install debian as the sole os on my machine and not have to worry
about booting?
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3113[20:46:48] <kion> is there a way to know in the terminal if
certain package also has a version in backports?
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3114[20:47:06] <greycat> Not without installing something.
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3115[20:47:40] <TomTomTosch> apt-cache policy <pkg> if you
have backports in your sources.
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3116[20:47:42] <kion> greycat, so opening synaptics and checking
the versions is the way to do it?
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3117[20:47:44] <jhutchins> lutralontra: Correct, you should be
able to boot with only Debian on it. It has UEFI I believe,
you'll need to keep that.
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3120[20:47:55] <greycat> If you've already got
jessie-backports added, and you've run apt-get update, then you
can use apt-cache show pkgname. If you get TWO blocks of output with
different versions, then it's a pretty good bet one of them is
from jessie-backports.
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3121[20:48:06] <jhutchins> lutralontra: Be sure to read
replaced-url
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3122[20:48:18] <lutralontra> thanks
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3124[20:48:59] <greycat> titan:~$ apt-cache show
xserver-xorg-video-intel | grep ^Version
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3125[20:48:59] <greycat> Version: 2:2.99.917+git20160706-1~bpo8+1
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3126[20:48:59] <greycat> Version: 2:2.21.15-2+b2
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3128[20:49:16] <molavy> kion: how i can i open 80 request
connection on iptables
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3129[20:49:27] <greycat> (Also, if one of the versions has
"bpo" in it, that's another sign.)
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3130[20:49:47] <kion> greycat, thanks!
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3171[21:02:20] <jhutchins> molavy: This is based on VMWare, but
it should work the same for what you're using:
replaced-url
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3175[21:05:25] <molavy> jhutchins: great thanks, so i should
contact vps support?
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3179[21:06:41] <jhutchins> molavy: I have no idea what you mean
by that, the article explains how to manage traffic to/from a
virtual machine, which is what I thought you were trying to do. If
so, read it.
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3181[21:07:29] <molavy> jhutchins: thanks
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3183[21:08:43] <jhutchins> molavy: If you're not managing
the virtual machine but are trying to connect to/from a commercially
hosted vps, yes, contact their support for information on networking
and what ports are available.
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3201[21:19:48] <molavy> jhutchins: yes, thanks a ton
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3228[21:28:02] <ToApolytoXaos> evince 3.22.1-2 on debian testing
64-bit fully updated has a peculiar issue. as soon as I open a PDF
file, it goes fully maximized by itself and does not let me
unmaximize the window; hot keys don't work, manual resizing the
window is prevented too. I'm using XFCE4
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3229[21:28:10] <greycat> !debian-next
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3230[21:28:10] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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3231[21:28:41] <ToApolytoXaos> greycat: "* Cannot join
#debian-next (Channel is invite only)."
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3232[21:28:56] <ToApolytoXaos> that's the channel I have
tried to join first and redirected me here
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3233[21:28:57] <gry> ToApolytoXaos, on oftc not on freenode
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3235[21:29:07] <ToApolytoXaos> darn it -_- I forgot about it
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3236[21:29:08] <ToApolytoXaos> cheers
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3237[21:29:12] <gry> :)
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3238[21:29:15] <greycat> If you get "Cannot join
#debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not
read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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3242[21:30:01] <ToApolytoXaos> I completely ignored the message,
because I thought I was on the right server
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3292[21:56:40] <TheAvatar> Hey - can I see what takes up a
DISPLAY slot? "A VNC server is already running as :32"
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3297[21:59:33] <Edisson> Hola
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