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5 [00:02:02] <trui> i removed it when i found out only
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98 [01:13:17] <annadane> why youtube-dl is even in debian with
how much it *needs* to be updated...
99 [01:13:22] <annadane> i'm sure some people have use for
it
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115 [01:24:48] <jordila> willing to give it a chance (for system
snapshots, e.g). When about to perform a fresh Debian Testing
install ... may i use Btrfs ?
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118 [01:28:54] <Ede|Popede> annadane: i use upstream for exactly
that reason. updates only if i run into problems. i'm sure most
of the updates are because of some sites changing their API or
similar. pinning should work and manual updates when needed.
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136 [01:42:56] <oxek> is this the correct debian mini.iso?
replaced-url
137 [01:43:05] <oxek> I can't find any documentation about
it
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140 [01:46:34] <bingbotboom> hi
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143 [01:48:56] <bingbotboom> is x11vnc and zero frame buffer
server still a thing? was wondering if folks use it still for same
session remote access
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145 [01:51:33] <bingbotboom> vnc has always been a ball tearer
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150 [01:54:57] <bingbotboom> Any recommendations please for vnc
on dwm/awesome/lightdm?
151 [01:54:57] <bingbotboom> I have jessie
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161 [02:04:20] <annadane> jessie is kind of outdated, unless you
have a reason for being on it i'd upgrade
162 [02:04:28] <annadane> !jessie lts
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171 [02:10:49] <tomreyn> oxek: it probably depends on what
you're looking for. this should be the latest debian 10 amd64
mini.iso
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246 [02:38:28] <cinesc> Looks like Anonymous72 doesn´t show
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247 [02:39:00] <dvs> if that's his real name...
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372 [05:12:55] <zapatista> I don't know if this is against
the rules. I am trying to import and compile a c project and I
don't seem to find includes for QT. Where can I find them?
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375 [05:13:49] <zapatista> I am using eclipse for development
platform.
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383 [05:20:08] <blackpenguin> zapatista: include files for
libraries can be installed by installation of the *-dev package of
the library. in your case something like libqt4-dev
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385 [05:21:00] <blackpenguin> Qt is C++ though
386 [05:22:11] <zapatista> It looks installed but I cannot seem
to figure out where. qt-base-dev-tools
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388 [05:22:28] <zapatista> But I will also look into the lib
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451 [06:48:03] <aidanpr> Hi
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499 [07:41:37] <jabberwocky_fodd> Hello. I like Debian. Screw MS.
Thats all.
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501 [07:41:48] <jabberwocky_fodd> (I recently switched)
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506 [07:45:00] <in1t3r> How can I check the build flags of xorg
on debian?
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515 [07:57:31] <RoyK> in1t3r: probably in the debian/ folder in
the xorg-dev package, whatever that's named
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517 [07:57:49] <RoyK> that is - the source package
518 [07:57:50] <RoyK> not dev
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562 [08:39:35] <jelly> Latr_work: using a repo from a newer
branch to get binaries from is a really bad idea, avoid at all
costs. You could try making your own build ("backport")
for buster, but Mesa might not be the only thing you'll need
backporting, you might need newer libdrm and kernel, and maybe even
newer Xorg
563 [08:40:10] <jelly> Latr_work: see: /msg dpkg simple sid
backport
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565 [08:40:27] <jelly> ,v libgl1-mesa-dri
566 [08:40:28] <judd> Package: libgl1-mesa-dri on amd64 --
jessie: 10.3.2-1+deb8u1; stretch: 13.0.6-1+b2; stretch-backports:
18.2.8-2~bpo9+1; buster: 18.3.6-2; bullseye: 19.2.1-1; sid: 19.2.1-1
567 [08:41:27] <jelly> Latr_work: you could ask the backports
mailing list if someone is willing to make a build and put it in
buster-backports repo.
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612 [09:06:33] <hans_> why isn't UTC/GMT an option here?
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617 [09:11:33] <Ede|Popede> just installed enigma (enigma
enigma-data enigma-doc libxerces-c3.1 libzipios++0v5
ttf-dejavu-extra = 36.3 MB in 9s). then unpacking stage started, i
switched to the desktop with the irc client, hd activity started.
for a pretty long time. couldn't switch back.
618 [09:11:33] <Ede|Popede> went to tty2 with htop running to see
if there was somethng special about memory or cpu usage. nope. but i
could see the process subtree with the switching configuration
commands running. and was already greeted by a log message saying
that nm-applet just has segfaulted in libgdk-something.
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621 [09:12:44] <Ede|Popede> i have java pinned so that it
doesn't even try to update it (was kicked out of irc every time
during the unpack stage), but i am surprised that it happend now
even with those few packages enigma brought in.
622 [09:13:14] <Ede|Popede> and i'd still blame the cpu
usage of xz over longer periods of time.
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626 [09:15:59] <no_gravity> Strange, I have this in my DOCKERFILE
but the line does not end up in /etc/hosts: RUN echo "127.0.0.1
something" >> /etc/hosts
627 [09:16:03] <no_gravity> Who overwrites it?
628 [09:18:29] <jelly> hans_: if you've chosen a particular
country this step only shows zones available in that country
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630 [09:19:12] <hans_> i have chosen a country, but is it
possible to *not* choose a country?
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635 [09:22:28] <jelly> hans_: I don't remember, perhaps in
expert install
636 [09:23:13] <jelly> you can reconfigure the timezone after
installation tho; the bios clock will be in UTC by default
637 [09:23:37] <jelly> so changing the timezone is just a
cosmetic change
638 [09:23:56] <jelly> clock does not actually go forward or
backward
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651 [09:39:00] <phoblet> is there a channel about embedded linux
on the gemini pda?
652 [09:42:17] <hans_> shouldn't popularity-contest be
opt-out rather than opt-in? people who *do* care will ofc choose
what they want, and people who don't care (which is most people
i presume) will just chose the default option
653 [09:43:08] <hans_> (in the debian10 installer, it's
opt-in, disabled by default)
654 [09:43:49] <ratrace> privacy related matters should be opt-in
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656 [09:44:26] <hans_> kk, that makes sense
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680 [10:09:55] <hans_> i was on this "device for boot
loader" screen,
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681 [10:09:56] <hans_> <hans_> is a fatal error" -
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683 [10:11:20] <hans_> so.. why is the GRUB bootloader apparently
confused because i pressed "go back" and went back to
partition editor and -didn't do any changes- and went back to
install grub?
684 [10:11:50] <hans_> s/bootloader/installer/
685 [10:12:17] <hans_> and.. think i can fix it without
restarting the install process, or should i just re-do the whole
thing?
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687 [10:13:02] <hans_> the step im stuck on is "Install the
GRUB boot loader on a hard disk"
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719 [10:36:14] <in1t3r> who here have optimus laptop and use
nouveau for external monitor setup? how to set it up
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727 [10:47:54] <Habbie> in1t3r, i do that, but i disabled the
intel gpu
728 [10:48:02] <Habbie> in1t3r, then everything is easy
729 [10:48:28] <in1t3r> Habbie, what are the performance gains if
ou have them?
730 [10:48:57] <in1t3r> You mean via switcheroo I cant use
switcheroo as HP omen AMI bios do not support that
731 [10:50:21] <Habbie> in1t3r, i don't know
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734 [10:52:14] <Lope> anyone here experienced with
dropbear-initramfs ?
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749 [11:04:16] <in1t3r> Habbie, do you have the ddx module loaded
I cant find that module
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882 [12:23:07] <GNUtoo> hi,
883 [12:23:37] <GNUtoo> u-boot has a standard for booting
distributions, and only 1 thing is missing to make use of it in
Debian (and derivatives):
884 [12:24:10] <GNUtoo> The devicetree directory is kernel
specific
885 [12:24:34] <GNUtoo> for instance I've to add the
following to extlinux.conf: "fdtdir
/usr/lib/linux-image-5.2.0-3-arm64/"
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887 [12:25:35] <GNUtoo> The rest is good: the kernel has a link
in /vmlinuz and the initrd has it in /initrd.img
888 [12:26:06] <GNUtoo> so you can very easily write an
extlinux.conf config file that point to boot so that u-boot can find
them
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904 [12:34:59] <abrotman> Is there a question?
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909 [12:40:06] <Ether_Man> GNUtoo, that would be a benefit when
their btrfs support includes booting from multi device arrays. But
right now, it's not like there's really any benefit over
say grub.
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911 [12:41:05] <GNUtoo> Ether_Man: for ARM there is a huge
benefit
912 [12:41:32] <GNUtoo> abrotman: should I bugreport about that
or is there already a bugreport on it, or is there a way to find out
that myself?
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954 [13:08:17] <Lope> anyone here experienced with
dropbear-initramfs ?
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969 [13:27:49] <Lope> ratrace, are you around bud?
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975 [13:34:53] <nsa_> i have over an hundred entries like this
ftom netstat "tcp6 0 0 173.230.157.xxx:443 217.68.213.33:51109
SYN_RECV", so it looks like a syn flood attack, but why does it
say 'tcp6' protocol with those ipv4 addresses ?
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980 [13:36:43] <ratrace> Lope: partially :)
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983 [13:37:25] <ratrace> nsa_: over a hundred entries is not even
a smidge of a synflood
984 [13:37:45] <ratrace> synfloods are in tens of thousands per
second
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986 [13:37:59] <ratrace> hundreds and millions for bigger ones
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988 [13:38:09] <ratrace> (hundreds of thousands, and millions)
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990 [13:38:22] <nsa_> ratrace: yes, but... something is wrong..
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992 [13:39:21] <ratrace> nsa_: oh right, tcp6 for ipv4
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994 [13:40:28] <ratrace> nsa_: first time I see that. are you
using some kind of 6in4 / gre tunneling?
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999 [13:44:40] <nsa_> ratrace: all i have running is squid and
openvpn, openvpn uses a tun0 interface, i'm shutting down squid
and openvpn for now
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1015 [13:52:35] <watom> hello. i get this while using iptables
"Warning: iptables-legacy tables present" by default. is
that an issue?
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1031 [14:04:00] <cinesc> hi
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1055 [14:31:48] <premoboss> hi. debian 10 amd64. firefox
"freezes" at start and freeze also the desktop (lxde). i
must kill from CLI with 'killall firefox-esr'. Back in
GUI, mouse move but not accept click. back in CLI, apt-get
update/upgrade/dist-upgrade. firefox-esr goes to 68.2. reboot.
firefox persiste on freeze and block himseld and lxde. NOte that
cromium is not affected. IDeas?
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1240 [16:44:49] <inna> mkay.
1241 [16:45:08] <inna> installing the fucking amdgpu drivers from
amd resulted in a black screen on boot
1242 [16:45:20] <inna> i found the steps to make it work but for
that i need to get into a shell
1243 [16:45:32] <inna> appending init=/bin/bash at grub does not
work
1244 [16:45:40] <inna> any clue?
1245 [16:45:59] <inna> is there an option to force NOT loading the
amdgpu driver at boot?
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1249 [16:48:44] <inna> also rescue-mode doesn't work
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1279 [17:14:15] <premoboss> inna buut fro cd/usb stick
1280 [17:14:23] <premoboss> boot from
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1290 [17:19:35] <cinesc> premoboss Try reinstall the browser and
it might solve the issue
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1292 [17:20:16] <premoboss> cinesc, purge and reinstall. ok i will
try
1293 [17:20:31] <cinesc> how did you install it from the
beginning?
1294 [17:20:50] <cinesc> terminal or package repository?
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1328 [17:39:16] <premoboss> cinesc, cli, apt-get install
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1339 [17:45:36] <jhutchins> inna: You can disable the kms driver,
which will prevent the amd driver from loading. Sorry but I
don't remember the syntax.
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1346 [17:51:39] <jhutchins> Ah, nomodeset
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1349 [17:54:03] <jhutchins>
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1422 [18:50:36] <mtcdood> can anyone tell me why sometimes tmux
windows get somehow screwed up and nano and some other programs
immediately exit when beginning to listen for keyboard input?
working nano strace
replaced-url
1423 [18:50:44] <mtcdood> that is where the two straces first
differ
1424 [18:51:09] <mtcdood> creating a new tmux window and using
that works, so does detaching from tmux and using my native console
1425 [18:51:20] <mtcdood> but that tmux window is permanently
broken and it continues to happen
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1475 [19:13:58] <Guest15> hi there!
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1477 [19:15:01] <Guest15> im having a problem which is exactly the
one in
replaced-url
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1479 [19:15:27] <Guest15> can someone shed some light on this? i
fail to see why npm would complain about this
1480 [19:17:01] <Ankman> that a javascript package manager?
1481 [19:17:30] <Guest15> yeah, npm. its practically the most
common and well known package manager for node.js stuff
1482 [19:17:40] <Ankman> have it installed here via apt-get i
guess.might just have been a dependency as i cannot remember i
wanted to install it
1483 [19:17:48] <GNU\colossus> the node "ecosystem"
moves too fast for Debian
1484 [19:17:50] <Guest15> its not for managing software packages
for e.g. debian, it's for node.js
1485 [19:17:51] <Ankman> ah node, yes
1486 [19:18:16] <Guest15> here's some output:
1487 [19:18:23] <Guest15> Uploaded file:
replaced-url
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1489 [19:18:55] <Guest15> so it looks like npm doesnt
"know" about node 10 being released (which is odd
considering nodejs is at 10.15). perhaps the npm one is way behind
the official npm.
1490 [19:18:59] * Guest15 checks
1491 [19:20:18] <GNU\colossus> at work, we use node and npm from
the upstream binary releases (they have distro-agnostic builds that
go into /opt/<something> just fine) to be able to infect
ourselves with JS shovelware
1492 [19:21:52] <Guest15> ok, npm is at 6.12 but hte debian one is
at 5.8. so its probably a case of the debian package not being new
enough to know about nodejs 10.15
1493 [19:22:06] <Guest15> GNU\colossus haha, roger that :)
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1497 [19:23:33] <Guest15> maybe i can grab a newer npm from
testing
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1499 [19:24:24] <nkuttler> can't you install npm with npm?
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1502 [19:24:58] <Guest15> nkuttler: probably but i would like to
use debian packages instead
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1504 [19:25:18] <Guest15> using the official node+npm installers
will most likely work fine, yae
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1510 [19:28:16] <Guest15> hm well buster-backports has npm 5.8.0
too
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1512 [19:28:52] <nkuttler> ,v npm
1513 [19:28:53] <judd> Package: npm on amd64 -- jessie:
1.4.21+ds-2; stretch-backports: 5.8.0+ds6-2~bpo9+1; bullseye:
5.8.0+ds6-4; buster: 5.8.0+ds6-4; sid: 5.8.0+ds6-4
1514 [19:30:08] <hans_> what is /etc/group- ?
1515 [19:30:10] <Guest15> looks like i will have to install at
least npm from the official repos instead then
1516 [19:30:32] <hans_> group with a hypen
1517 [19:31:00] <hans_> other files have copies with a hypen as
well, gshadow- and passwd- and shadow-
1518 [19:31:39] <hans_> .. appears to be backups/old versions of
some kind
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1520 [19:32:18] <Guest15> hans_: AFAIK they are just backups of
the files
1521 [19:32:30] <schumaml> is there a command or env variable to
determine the triplet in library paths - i.e. lib/i386-linux-gnu/ -
that debian is using?
1522 [19:32:39] <Guest15> hans_: you can verify this by making a
change to some file and see if the - one has the old contents.
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1525 [19:33:18] <hans_> Guest15, doesn't if i edit them
manually (with nano) but if deluser edits it, then they contain the
old version yeah
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1532 [19:38:19] <cinesc> Anyone familiar with pentesting and
things like that related to hacking? Need help with.
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1536 [19:40:12] <wasamasa> yeah, I do it for good money
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1538 [19:41:20] <GNU\colossus> I began testing penetration in my
late teens, and found it satisfactory ever since.
1539 [19:41:30] <wasamasa> I do that on the side
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1577 [20:03:00] <wasamasa> somehow I don't expect anything
useful to come from that guy
1578 [20:03:18] <Ankman> GNU\colossus: *LOL*
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1593 [20:13:36] <jelly> schumaml, there can be more than one used
on a single installation, but only one dpkg architecture is
considered native and there's a 1:1 mapping.
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1597 [20:15:01] <jelly> schumaml, and "dpkg-architecture
-qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH" right before that
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1613 [20:21:38] <schumaml> dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH
1614 [20:21:58] <schumaml> is that better or worse than using the
gcc parameter
1615 [20:22:02] <schumaml> ?
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1702 [20:52:02] <filpAM> which is the best cross platform audio
output library
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1704 [20:52:50] <GNU\colossus> "best" is usually highly
subjective. I think portaudio is considered "OK" in terms
of actual cross-platformedness.
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1721 [21:02:16] <KOLANICH> Hello. I wonder if it is possible for a
person that is not a debian maintainer to get a salsa account
without -guest?
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1787 [21:47:52] <stefanos82> Good evening everyone, I need your
expertise around screen resolution, if possible. My monitor is a
Bush TV, model LE-28GX01 and currently limits me to 1360x768. My
other monitor (I have a dual setup) works just fine with 1280x1024.
I have also checked my motherboard's manual to validate whether
I have any limitations to my settings and seems I have none. I would
like to use a higher resolution and cannot make it so with xrandr...
1788 [21:47:57] <stefanos82> Any advice?
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1790 [21:48:48] <AndikaSagala> why the unix which command not
shown any result? i am using debian in qemu/kvm fedora machine
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1792 [21:48:56] <AndikaSagala> "which" command
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1794 [21:49:20] <oerheks> stefanos82 your monitor is HD-ready,
that means 1366 x 768
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1795 [21:49:25] <Delf> stefanos82: What's the native
resolution of your TV?
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1798 [21:50:04] <stefanos82> AndikaSagala: prefer "command -v
'your-program-here'" over "which"
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1803 [21:51:02] <stefanos82> Delf: when you say native resolution,
what do you mean exactly? English is not my native language and I
don't fully understand idioms
1804 [21:51:25] <AndikaSagala> i just install a software. and then
run the mlocate update by using command "updatedb"
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1806 [21:52:02] <AndikaSagala> but i still got nothing for what i
install by input command "which $thesoftwarewasinstalled"
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1808 [21:52:31] <jelly> isthis4real57468, are you a bot?
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1810 [21:53:06] <Delf> stefanos82: Native resolution is the
resolution that your tv prefers. It's possible that there is
down-scaling going on when you set a resolution above 1360x768
1811 [21:53:13] <isthis4real57468> not anymore :)
1812 [21:53:28] <Delf> stefanos82: What oerheks said.
1813 [21:53:50] <isthis4real57468> lol jk...my freenode connection
kept disconnecting and reconnecting...not sure why, but im using a
different client, and no issues for 15min sounds good for now
1814 [21:53:55] <stefanos82> Delf: yeah I read that link (thanks
oerheks) and got a bit disappointed
1815 [21:54:11] <stefanos82> does that mean I'm locked in
that HD resolution? -_-
1816 [21:54:17] <oerheks> yes
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1818 [21:54:29] <jelly> very well, carry on :-)
1819 [21:54:37] <stefanos82> oerheks: well, this suck :/
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1822 [21:55:09] <KOLANICH> Hi. Is it acceptible to upload
automatically-generated packages?
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1825 [21:56:00] <KOLANICH> I mean fully automated generation from
upstream git.
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1827 [21:56:57] <AndikaSagala> even with using command "which
sysctl" it is not show any result
1828 [21:57:12] <AndikaSagala> is it because of the bin located in
sbin ?
1829 [21:57:31] <AndikaSagala> "which pwd" showing
result "/usr/bin/pwd"
1830 [21:57:56] <AndikaSagala> "which sysctl" not
showing any result. the actual sysctl bin located in
"/usr/sbin/sysctl"
1831 [21:57:56] <stefanos82> AndikaSagala: can you try
"command -v sysctl" and tell me what's the output it
produces?
1832 [21:58:18] <AndikaSagala> none
1833 [21:58:19] <AndikaSagala> blank
1834 [21:58:28] <AndikaSagala> there is no any result
1835 [21:58:31] <AndikaSagala> "command -v sysctl"
1836 [21:58:49] <stefanos82> yes because it's a system
command
1837 [21:58:58] <oerheks> sysctl is part of the procps: /proc file
system utilities package
1838 [21:59:04] <stefanos82> if you use sudo, try sudo sh -c
'command -v sysctl'
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1840 [21:59:22] <AndikaSagala> i dont get it
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1842 [21:59:37] <AndikaSagala> "command -v sysctl"
<-- the command is what?
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1844 [21:59:58] <stefanos82> the portable way to produce the same
output as which
1845 [21:59:58] <oerheks> locate procps
1846 [22:00:24] <stefanos82> oerheks: not the right choice to be
honest with you
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1851 [22:02:32] <stefanos82> AndikaSagala: this answers your
question
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1853 [22:02:50] <AndikaSagala> how do i located the bin in
/usr/sbin ?
1854 [22:03:06] <AndikaSagala> it is fine for me, i can solve it
using math logic.
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1857 [22:03:30] <AndikaSagala> but just wondering that that
"which" command not detect any bin in /usr/sbin/*.*
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1859 [22:04:27] <AndikaSagala> for any binary inside /usr/sbin not
detected using 'which' command
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1862 [22:05:18] <wasamasa> it's not in your regular PATH, but
in root's PATH
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1864 [22:05:48] <AndikaSagala> command -v which <-- showing
result: /usr/bin/which
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1866 [22:06:11] <AndikaSagala> command -v sysctl <-- not
showing any result. because the path location in sbin
1867 [22:06:27] <wasamasa> try `echo $PATH`
1868 [22:06:50] <AndikaSagala> also same between "which
sysctl" and "command -v sysctl"
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1870 [22:07:08] <AndikaSagala> i don't want more unix
command. i will solve it suing math logic
1871 [22:07:08] <AndikaSagala> thanks
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1873 [22:07:40] <Gigglebyte> Can anyone help me backup Thunderbird
folders from the command line in Safe Mode?
1874 [22:08:06] <AndikaSagala> ***using
1875 [22:08:17] <AndikaSagala> i don't want more unix
command. i will solve it using math logic
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1880 [22:10:30] <Latr_work> Gigglebyte: cp --rp ~/.thunderbird
/path/to/drive
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1882 [22:10:45] <Latr_work> cp -rp ~/.thunderbird /path/to/drive
1883 [22:10:58] <Latr_work> or /home/username/.thunderbird
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1886 [22:12:20] <Gigglebyte> Latr_work> Can this be done from
root in recovery mode?
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1892 [22:16:04] <Latr_work> Yes, but I am not sure what you mean
by recovering mode
1893 [22:16:47] <Latr_work> Just mount the partition/volume from a
live cd
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1895 [22:17:34] <Gigglebyte> Latr_work> I get an error message
that it isn't a directory so I might have the wrong path. I
tried the /home/username/thunderbird option
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1900 [22:18:22] <Latr_work> it is .thunderbird
1901 [22:18:42] <Latr_work> and you need to replace username with
the actual username the .thunderbird folder is located into
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1923 [22:29:10] <Gigglebyte> I can't even get a folder
created on the USB stick using mkdir. Not sure what is going on.
1924 [22:31:19] <Latr_work> Right. I guess you need to learn some
basic essentials
1925 [22:31:42] <Latr_work> I am happy to help if you can provide
outputs and follow advices
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1927 [22:32:45] <Latr_work> In the meantime, does anyone know how
can I build a package built for sid?
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1929 [22:32:53] <Latr_work> into stable
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1932 [22:34:45] <zatumil> backports.debian.org
1933 [22:35:03] <Latr_work> zatumil: the packages I need are not
in backports atm
1934 [22:35:09] <Latr_work> I am referring to Mesa 19
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1938 [22:36:12] <LtL> !ssb
1939 [22:36:12] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install
build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source
packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation
options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid
see <uupdate>.
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1942 [22:37:59] <LtL> Latr_work: read ssb factoid.
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1944 [22:38:18] <Latr_work> LtL: very useful thanks
1945 [22:38:27] <LtL> Latr_work: cheers
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1954 [22:44:40] <Gigglebyte> Latr_work> Cant get the laptop to
boot from live cd. I am at a fixit clinic, and no linux people here
today. However, it was suggested I remove the hard drive to force
the laptop to boot from it. the laptop does recognize the Patriot
Memory stick.
1955 [22:45:08] <jimnierd> ! list
1956 [22:45:08] <dpkg> jimnierd: vedi
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1958 [22:45:54] <Latr_work> Gigglebyte: can't you see it if
you run fdisk -l ?
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1960 [22:46:09] <zapatista> Giglebyte: you must be capable of
choosing the boot media during startup. It must be f8 or F10 or
something like that.
1961 [22:46:31] <zapatista> However, if bios is password
protected, you cannot get into (bios) boot menu.
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1963 [22:49:34] <jim> hi... just ran into a possible bug... when I
did adduser foo, the only other plain user I had was the one made
when I installed... that user ID is 1000, and /etc/passwd shows the
user ID for foo is 1001 (no surprises so far), but then, I try to su
- foo and create a dir in the home dir, and it says permission
denied... turns out the dir is owned by user ID 1004, for which
there's not a /etc/passwd entry...
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1965 [22:50:06] <Gigglebyte> zapatista> I already went into the
boot, and made sure the usb stick was the first boot device. In
spite of this, the System 76 (clevo) wouldn't boot from stick.
Not really sure why. I am now in root in recovery mode, and
can't get the thunderbird profile copied.
1966 [22:50:07] <jim> I solved the immediate problem by chowning
foo's home dir to foo.foo
1967 [22:50:27] <Gigglebyte> I tired the following commands: mount
/dev/sdb1 /mnt
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1970 [22:50:46] <Gigglebyte> Then I tried cp -rp ~/.thunderbird
/mnt
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1972 [22:51:08] <Gigglebyte> I get an error message that it cannot
stat /root/.thunderbird/: no such file or directory
1973 [22:51:17] <LtL> Gigglebyte: have you been in the BIOS? Boot
priority must be set to boot from your 'live media' before
it boots from a hard drive. Or it will not boot from the media
image.
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1975 [22:52:05] <Gigglebyte> Ltl> I have been in the bios many
times, and not only is the priority correct, fast boot has been shut
off, and I made sure it was set to UEFI.
1976 [22:52:13] <LtL> Gigglebyte: your thunderbird directory
won't be in root's directory but in the user's dir.
1977 [22:52:40] <Gigglebyte> Ltl> How do i get to the user
directory from root in recovery mode?
1978 [22:52:59] <Gigglebyte> Nothing comes up when I run ls
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1980 [22:53:40] <jim> so then there's nothing in it (well
maybe hidden files, whose name starts with .
1981 [22:53:41] <jim> )
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1984 [22:54:04] <LtL> Gigglebyte: secure boot off? not sure if
that will make a difference. I am not familiar with recovery mode.
does ls -la /home/ # show your user?
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1986 [22:54:57] <Gigglebyte> Ltl> yes, it shows it
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1990 [22:55:40] <LtL> Gigglebyte: then as root you should be able
to copy files, just be sure to preserve permissions.
1991 [22:55:58] <tomreyn> jim: the situation you are describing
means that the the home directory the newly created user has existed
previously, adn was owned by a user which does not (maybe no longer)
exists on the system.
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1995 [22:56:19] <Gigglebyte> LtL> On my screen it shows two
entries for rood, and the last one is titled by my first name. Not
sure what to do now.
1996 [22:56:29] <tomreyn> jim: adduser would have wanred that it
encountered a pre-existing directory when creatign this new user
1997 [22:56:45] <Gigglebyte> These three entries showd up after
typing ls -la /home/ #username
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2000 [22:57:42] <jim> tomreyn, let me check
2001 [22:58:26] <tomreyn> jim: the easiest way to clean this up,
if there are no important files in the home directory of the new
user, is to deluser --remove-home THATNEWUSER && adduser
THATNEWUSER
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2004 [22:58:53] <LtL> Gigglebyte: so the correct directory is
/home/yourname/.thunderbird I would imagine thunderbird is a hidden
directory, easy enought to chack
2005 [22:59:13] <jim> tomreyn, I wasn't watching carefully
enough... it warned that /home/foo already existed
2006 [22:59:24] <LtL> pardon my typing
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2008 [23:00:51] <tomreyn> jim: so you can do what i stated above.
alternatively you can chown -R 1001:1001 /home/THATNEWUSER and cp
all the dotfiles in /etc/skel to (home/THATNEWUSER/ (thus
overwriting previously existing files of the same name - careful
there)
2009 [23:00:54] <LtL> Gigglebyte: by the way, there should be no
/home/root/ directory if by 'rood' you meant root
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2014 [23:05:40] <pepper64> Hi, I accidentally hide windows borders
for mpv with a accidental key combination, how can I bring it back,
it is windows less borderless, wayland gnome
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2016 [23:06:48] <oerheks> pepper64, F11 perhaps?
2017 [23:07:52] <pepper64> oerheks, nope doesnt work, no response,
searched dconf database for mpv, remove mpv's config, not
solved, I guess its not mpv
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2025 [23:14:54] <Gigglebyte> LTL> I have tried to mount the
device that the data is being copied from, and the device it is
going to, but ran into trouble. I get an error indicating that the
volume was not properly unmounted when running fsck.
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2027 [23:15:37] <AndikaSagala> is it mean that all binaries which
located in path /usr/sbin are secure binaries ?
2028 [23:16:04] <AndikaSagala> and all binaries which located in
path /usr/bin are just ordinary binaries ?
2029 [23:16:34] <Gigglebyte> I get the following error message
when running cp /home/randal/ .thunderibrd /mnt: -r not specified:
omitting directory /home/randal and also indicates cannot stat
.thunderid: no such file or directory
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2033 [23:18:44] <AndikaSagala> i writing a scripting. i put it
inside /usr/bin . so it is fine and ok ? just ordinary
script/software
2034 [23:18:49] <AndikaSagala> i am writing a scripting. i put it
inside /usr/bin . so it is fine and ok ? just ordinary
script/software
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2036 [23:19:03] <AndikaSagala> i didn't put it inside
/usr/sbin
2037 [23:19:30] <LtL> Gigglebyte: your spelling is wrong for one
thing, secondly be certain the device you fdisk'ed is okay.
what does ls -la /home/randa1/.thunderbird say? thunderbird stuff
may also be in ~/.config/thunderbird/ you'll need to find it.
2038 [23:19:39] <c0rnelius> you could stick it in /usr/local/bin
if you like
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2041 [23:20:01] <c0rnelius> which is where i tend put my scripts
2042 [23:20:27] <AndikaSagala> ok sir. thanks for the advide
2043 [23:20:31] <AndikaSagala> ok sir. thanks for the advice
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2045 [23:21:08] <c0rnelius> or /opt/bin but you would then need to
make sure you add it to ur path.
2046 [23:21:19] <c0rnelius> if it's not already there that is
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2050 [23:22:34] <LtL> Gigglebyte: cp alone won't preserve
permission or be recursive, cp -rp will. i'd also recommend
rsync -av
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2055 [23:26:56] <LtL> Gigglebyte: slight modification, don't
use ~/whatever use the absolute path '~' means your home
dir, as root that would be /root/
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2058 [23:28:25] <Gigglebyte> LtL> Here is the results from ls
-la /home/randal .thunderbird
replaced-url
2059 [23:29:01] <LtL> Gigglebyte: before i look, thats wrong
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2061 [23:30:31] <LtL> Gigglebyte: there should be no root entry,
something is very wrong
2062 [23:32:08] <Gigglebyte> LtL> the question is what. Most
data should be on sda4 -- even though partitions are from sda1 -
sda8
2063 [23:32:22] <Gigglebyte> This is not counting the permissions
for the USB memory stick.
2064 [23:32:35] <LtL> Gigglebyte: root seems to own a or the
directory in that output, it shouldn't. also theres nothing in
that directory but skeleton files
2065 [23:33:08] <LtL> Gigglebyte: paste ls -la /home/
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2069 [23:34:23] <LtL> Gigglebyte: i have no idea about your
partitioning scheme, hopefully someone can help.
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2073 [23:36:49] <Gigglebyte> Ltl> Here is the result for ls -ls
/home/
replaced-url
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2079 [23:40:57] <LtL> Gigglebyte: weird, looks like you have a lot
of data in /home/root/ i think you made a mistake along the way
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2082 [23:41:46] <Gigglebyte> LtL> I just read that .thunderbird
is a hidden folder, and that I need to use the command to unhide it
replaced-url
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2086 [23:46:19] <LtL> Gigglebyte: those look like ms windows
instruction. there is no reason you can't use the command line,
it looks like you pasted /home/randal into /home/root/ which
sholdn't even exist
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2090 [23:47:26] <Gigglebyte> LtL> What is the correct command
for copying the Thunderbird folders/profile ??
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2093 [23:48:44] <LtL> Gigglebyte: we don't even know whare
its at! it certainly is not in /home/randal anymore, its probably in
/home/root = big mistake but fixable
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2097 [23:49:23] <Gigglebyte> LtL> How do i check? Back in 30
minutes.
2098 [23:49:34] <Gigglebyte> Oophs ignore last line. I will be
back in 5 minutes.
2099 [23:49:42] <dvs> too late!
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2101 [23:50:06] <LtL> Gigglebyte: file managers can ruin your day!
like i said, whats in /home/root/ ? probably all your stuff but now
owned by root
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2104 [23:51:03] <LtL> /me will return later.
2105 [23:51:22] <LtL> hiya dvs
2106 [23:51:58] <dvs> yo
2107 [23:53:41] <Gigglebyte> i'm back
2108 [23:54:45] <annadane> i've sometimes considered moving
to cli only for file stuff
2109 [23:54:56] <annadane> thunar had at least one really nasty
bug i know of
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2111 [23:55:18] <annadane> and i think even things like
copying/moving files don't always work on certain file
managers... super frustrating
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2113 [23:55:33] <Gigglebyte> Isn't there a filter that could
help me find the thunderbird profile?
2114 [23:55:38] <Gigglebyte> Maybe a grep command?
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2117 [23:56:42] <Gigglebyte> Look like they are bagging it up here
at the Fixit clinic so please memo serve me if you can think of
anything profound to say.
2118 [23:56:47] <Gigglebyte> byby
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2121 [23:58:50] <LtL> i wonder if he logged into X as root..
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