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76[01:03:52] <dostoyevsky> replaced-url
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82[01:07:45] <somiaj> dostoyevsky: it is strongly suggested you get nvidia drivers from debian, not nvidia. Nvidia packages the cuda drivers
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84[01:07:59] <somiaj> ,v nvidia-cuda-toolkit
85[01:08:00] <judd> Package: nvidia-cuda-toolkit on amd64 -- jessie/non-free: 6.0.37-5; stretch/non-free: 8.0.44-4; stretch-backports/non-free: 9.1.85-8~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 9.2.148-7; bullseye/non-free: 10.1.168-7; sid/non-free: 10.1.168-7; experimental/non-free: 10.1.243-1
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96[01:17:08] <dostoyevsky> somiaj: thank you!
97[01:17:33] <budlight> hello
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218[02:40:02] <DracoSentien> I had Debian on my laptop and I installed the microcode for mitigating intel CPU bugs then I rebooted and the kernel told it was still setup to leak data and linked to shitty documentation. I knew right then it was time to install OpenBSD
219[02:40:08] <DracoSentien> OpenBSD blackhole.my.domain 6.6 GENERIC.MP#5 amd64
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221[02:40:16] <DracoSentien> linux is for bitches and dumb ones at that !
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233[02:42:50] <mason> And let that be a lesson to all of us.
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541[05:18:47] <quarterback> How to change cpu frequency scaling with cpu governor? I did this before but now I can't recollect where to set the configuration. It was in a configuration file. The debian wiki seems to provide incorrect information.
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543[05:19:24] <quarterback> The directory structure is not as in this link: replaced-url
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546[05:21:17] <quarterback> I'm on debian 10
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635[06:28:43] <dingurt> anyone else out there as bored as I am?
636[06:29:22] <dingurt> like, it's bad.
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650[06:37:23] <tripkin> Nope. Always have something to do. Like napping, sleeping, and taking breaks.
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654[06:40:45] <dingurt> ha, I feel ya
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667[06:48:57] <trui> my operating system doesn't randomly break, so that's boring, but it's a good kind of boring ;)
668[06:49:04] <tsarompy> dingurt if youre that bored join #debian-offtopic. theres usually a good conversation in there
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692[07:09:12] <dingurt> trui, yep, debian is awful stable
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762[07:54:10] <netcrash> Hello, while trying to use nfs4 with kerberos in debian buster I get incorrect mount option specified , the command is mount -t nfs4 -o sec=krb5 storage.a1.net106.local:/storage1 /storage1 , any ideas?
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775[08:01:38] <Wulf> netcrash: did you get a kerberos ticket?
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780[08:04:55] <moonfmdesire> Hi, I want to install wine32 but get this message: replaced-url
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785[08:07:24] <jm_> try replaced-url
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794[08:09:08] <netcrash> Wulf: I have a keytab , does that work?
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797[08:09:54] <netcrash> Wulf: using mount has root the command works but hangs and I get connection timeout
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799[08:10:13] <netcrash> on the other side (centos) there is a message that a connection was made
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801[08:10:52] <moonfmdesire> jm_, That didn't work.
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809[08:13:44] <jm_> moonfmdesire: saying just "it didn't work" does not any of us
810[08:13:49] <jm_> !bat
811[08:13:49] <dpkg> [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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813[08:15:06] <moonfmdesire> jm_, Well, you did give me that link based on my paste
814[08:15:17] <moonfmdesire> : - )
815[08:15:44] <jm_> moonfmdesire: exactly, because that provided far more info than just "did not work"
816[08:15:55] <jm_> see what apt said above
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819[08:16:59] <moonfmdesire> Can it be a little more complicated? Just a shade.
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873[08:38:33] <Wulf> netcrash: even with a keytab you still need a kerberos ticket. You're supposed to get one automatically.
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909[08:59:03] <jelly> ,v libwine --arch i386
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911[08:59:05] <judd> Package: libwine on i386 -- jessie: 1.6.2-20; stretch: 1.8.7-2; stretch-backports: 4.0-2~bpo9+1; buster: 4.0-2; bullseye: 5.0-3; sid: 5.0-3
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935[09:14:39] <scx> Hello
936[09:14:56] <scx> What is the Gtk+3 equivalent of libwxgtk3.0?
937[09:15:44] <scx> libwxgtk3.0-gtk3?
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1030[10:11:05] <moonfmdesire> Wine with debian 10 is broken, according to documentation.
1031[10:11:58] <moonfmdesire> replaced-url
1032[10:12:03] <moonfmdesire> For now.
1033[10:12:06] <moonfmdesire> No wonder.
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1105[11:08:53] <Samysam> Hi all. I have a service (prometheus) which can't read a file and I don't understand why. Is there a way to run a shell with the same context than my systemd service ?
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1115[11:12:17] <ratrace> Samysam: what error do you get?
1116[11:13:10] <Samysam> a permission denied error
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1118[11:14:18] <Samysam> but if I run a shell with same uid and gid of my service, I can read the file
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1120[11:15:26] <han-solo> which user the service be run as ?
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1123[11:17:06] <Samysam> My service is un with user "prometheus" and group "worker_tunnel", which is a custom made group (and yes, prometheus user is part of this group)
1124[11:17:17] <ratrace> Samysam: which file it can't access?
1125[11:17:18] <Samysam> *un = run
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1128[11:18:14] <Samysam> a custom service discovery one, placed in /home/worker_tunnel/discovery. The files inside this folders are created by the user "worker_tunnel"
1129[11:18:36] <ratrace> Samysam: and chmodded how?
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1131[11:18:58] <Samysam> -rw-r-----+ 1 worker_tunnel worker_tunnel my_file
1132[11:19:27] <ratrace> there's ACLs on that file
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1134[11:21:00] <Samysam> Yes
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1136[11:22:22] <ratrace> Samysam: so, is that the problem then? custom ACLs blocking access?
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1138[11:23:04] <Samysam> 2s, I'll pastebin my acls and service file
1139[11:23:25] <jelly> Samysam: also show: "ls -ld /home /home/worker_tunnel /home/worker_tunnel/discovery" and "id -a prometheus"
1140[11:23:51] <jelly> likely missing effective x
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1145[11:26:23] <Samysam> replaced-url
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1151[11:29:37] <f8e3> how would you install nodejs v12 lts ?
1152[11:29:40] <ice9> how can i whitelist ip with custom port in firewalld, i'm trying:
1153[11:29:41] <ice9> firewall-cmd --permanent --zone=drop --add-rich-rule='rule family=ipv4 source address=<ip> accept'
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1157[11:33:18] <ratrace> Samysam: can you confirm the prometheus process is running with given uid and gid? you can check with grep Group /proc/<pid here>/status
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1160[11:34:09] <nlpqda> buster shell has no command info! which package containing this command?
1161[11:34:11] <ratrace> Samysam: meanwhile that ACL looks redundant and unnecessary, unless you intend to add more rules to it
1162[11:34:33] <ratrace> nlpqda: what is "command info"
1163[11:34:52] <themill> nlpqda: there's a package called "info"...
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1166[11:35:10] <Samysam> @ratrace: yes, I confirm it
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1168[11:35:34] <ratrace> Samysam: then is there an AppArmor policy involved? namespaces? containers? bind-mounts?
1169[11:36:36] <Samysam> I don't know why there is such ACLs. I only use ACLs to add read acces to my backup user
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1174[11:38:14] <Samysam> ratrace: I don't know. I didn't setup anything like this myself. and I don't know much about those. If you know a command I can run to check this, I will run it
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1176[11:39:18] <Samysam> but it's not running inside a docker or LXC, and there is not bind mount for this folder
1177[11:40:20] <Samysam> here the fstab line for the folder: /dev/md4 /home ext4 defaults,relatime 1 2
1178[11:43:44] <nlpqda> ratrace: it's like the command "man" if I recall correctly
1179[11:44:23] <ratrace> nlpqda: yeah yeah, I parsed your sentence wrongly :)
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1183[11:47:38] <ratrace> Samysam: you can check AppArmor policy with aa-status, see if prometheus is appearing in enforce mode. Also, consider installing auditd, and put an auditctl watch on your file, see uid/gid/pid of the actual process trying to access it and failing
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1190[11:51:44] <Samysam> ratrace: It's seems I don't have apparmor installed (debian 9). I will use auditctl. Thank you for your help
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1213[12:00:29] <nlpqda> thanks
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1313[13:19:29] <Antoine-> Hello, I have a CUPS server on my debian machine. I access it through replaced-url
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1315[13:20:26] <Antoine-> I'm not sure which data goes through the port 631, is it only the web admin panel or are there some printer data too? If there are some printer data, maybe setting a reverse proxy could break everything?
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1341[13:37:31] <ratrace> Antoine-: why do you think you need a proxy though? Is it just to convert port 80 into 631?
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1362[13:52:32] <Antoine-> ratrace: Yes. This is just for me to remember better. I always mix up ports whereas I won't forget cups.my_domain
1363[13:52:39] <Antoine-> Is is a bad idea?
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1392[13:58:28] <ratrace> Antoine-: is this all inside LAN or is there a NAT going on in access to that cupsd?
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1404[14:04:45] <n_1-c_k> Antoine-, the "Connection" for the printer on my network has port 631 in it, which seems to imply that print data goes through there too.
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1411[14:07:43] <Antoine-> ratrace: It is all insite a LAN
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1416[14:13:59] <Antoine-> n_1-c_k: Thanks for the info :)
1417[14:14:15] <Antoine-> I set up a reverse proxy and it seems to be working fine :)
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1473[14:49:34] <epitamizer> I queried the symlinks on debian a while back ago, and was suprised to see so many symlinks, if the legacy programs are never updated to reference the new program names the system can become confusing
1474[14:50:13] <joepublic> What makes you think the symlinks are not updated as needed? curious
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1476[14:51:08] <epitamizer> I expect they are, but the fact remains that they are still present, and are used for compatability reason only
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1478[14:52:20] <epitamizer> if a program is expecting an executable in /bin/ by a certain name and that program has been obsolete, the link will still be calling a symlink
1479[14:52:25] <ratrace> not just compatibility. there's the whole update-alternatives system
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1482[14:53:26] <joepublic> compatibility is not the reason for symlinks in debian.
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1487[14:54:21] <epitamizer> ya in the scenarios the program name is not desired then that too
1488[14:54:39] <joepublic> if your hypothetical program is obsolete but still installed, the symlink still works. If uninstalled, no more symlink.
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1490[14:55:12] <epitamizer> but if the maintainers are able to build packages for the architecture, why would symlinks even be needed then?
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1492[14:55:45] <joepublic> For a great answer, man update-alternatives
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1498[15:00:02] <ratrace> (don't forget the whole usrmerge compatibility symlinking too)
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1522[15:18:36] <wondiws> I just installed MariaDB on my debian, I'm supposed to be able to login as root with a blank password, am I not?
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1525[15:19:38] <section1> yes
1526[15:19:48] <section1> without password
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1530[15:21:41] <wondiws> section1, "mysql -u root" doesn't work for me either :S
1531[15:22:02] <wondiws> Oh, I need to be root myself?
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1534[15:22:06] <section1> yeap
1535[15:22:24] <section1> use unix_socket auth plugin
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1672[16:53:39] <nooooob> hello! since some upgrade I am unable to open my soulseek client, nicotine-plus
1673[16:54:13] <jelly> nooooob: if you try to run the command from a terminal, does it say anything?
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1675[16:54:28] <greycat> N: Unable to locate package nicotine-plus
1676[16:54:41] <jelly> ,v nicotine
1677[16:54:42] <judd> Package: nicotine on amd64 -- jessie: 1.2.16+dfsg-1; buster: 1.2.16+dfsg-1.1; sid: 1.2.16+dfsg-1.1; stretch: 1.2.16+dfsg-1.1
1678[16:54:46] <nooooob> command not found
1679[16:54:52] <jelly> nooooob: well then!
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1681[16:55:09] <nooooob> then later if I gksudo I get this:replaced-url
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1683[16:55:43] <jelly> that does not seem relevant
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1685[16:56:03] <nooooob> wait, when I ran just nicotine in the terminal it worked
1686[16:56:09] <nooooob> but the app in my start menu
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1688[16:56:18] <nooooob> didn't even though it should be mapped to the same thing
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1691[16:59:19] <GrimSleepless> !irc log
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1703[17:04:55] <nooooob> it will only start in the terminal
1704[17:05:19] <greycat> so fix the GUI thing so that it works, possibly by editing some *.desktop file somewhere
1705[17:05:44] <nooooob> what directory might tht be in?
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1708[17:06:36] <annadane> !irclog
1709[17:06:36] <dpkg> [irclog] #debian on <freenode> is logged at replaced-url
1710[17:06:39] <annadane> GrimSleepless, ^
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1712[17:08:52] <jelly> nooooob: is there a way to see what the icon points to? Right click on icon in the menu or wherever you find it?
1713[17:09:46] <nooooob> when I right click it says Nicotine-Plus
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1715[17:10:30] <nooooob> but the command that runs it in the terminal is $ gksudo nicotine
1716[17:10:34] <greycat> there's no menu or anything? no way to dig down into the details and find out what it's doing?
1717[17:10:52] <greycat> why on earth are you using something with "sudo" in its name to run a GUI application?
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1719[17:11:27] <nooooob> I was trying to find by googling what to do if an application wouldn't run
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1721[17:11:45] <ratrace> (btw gksudo has been long deprecated)
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1723[17:11:55] <nooooob> okay, good to know
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1728[17:13:02] <nooooob> so I'm in xfce but when I right click the program it doesn't show me a filepath or anything like that
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1730[17:13:41] * greycat tries googling "xfce icon show properties"
1731[17:14:33] <ratrace> replaced-url
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1733[17:15:15] <nooooob> okay cool so where do I save that to? the desktop?
1734[17:15:26] <ratrace> nooooob: that's already installed by the package
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1736[17:15:33] <nooooob> right
1737[17:15:54] <ratrace> in /usr/share/applications: replaced-url
1738[17:16:01] <greycat> are desktop environments really THIS BAD, that users can't make heads or tails out of them via the standard user interface conventions? or is it just *this* user
1739[17:16:16] <shibboleth> replaced-url
1740[17:16:17] <ratrace> in my experience, DEs are really bad
1741[17:16:19] <shibboleth> oh, that does it
1742[17:16:51] <nooooob> you don't need to give me such attitude I'm sorry for being so inept
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1744[17:17:19] <ratrace> not even behemoth suites like gnome will show you launcher icon details. KDE _might_
1745[17:17:29] <greycat> I'm really struggling to figure out how to help here. The *.desktop file says "Exec=nicotine", assuming it hasn't been overridden locally.
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1748[17:18:04] <greycat> I also still DO NOT understand why you have been using gksudo to launch this thing. Maybe that's the underlying problem -- you had historically been running it as root, and now it's got all of its files in your $HOME owned by root instead of you.
1749[17:18:15] <nooooob> okay I found my nicotine.desktop file
1750[17:18:19] <nooooob> ah that might be it
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1752[17:19:15] <nooooob> my nicotine.desktop file looks the same as the one on sourceforge you linked me
1753[17:19:24] <ratrace> greycat: you're onto something there.
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1755[17:19:47] <ratrace> nooooob: not SF but debian sources database
1756[17:19:55] <nooooob> oops right
1757[17:19:56] <greycat> nooooob: does this give you any output: find ~ ! -user "$LOGNAME"
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1761[17:21:10] <nooooob> a long list of .cc and .o files
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1763[17:21:34] <greycat> so you've been compiling C++ files inside your $HOME, as root...
1764[17:21:36] <ratrace> that sounds bad
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1766[17:21:40] <nooooob> but seemingly connected to a single app
1767[17:21:56] <greycat> (or, as someone other than you)
1768[17:22:01] <nooooob> okay so I guess I need to change something about the configuration of that one app that is doing that
1769[17:22:15] <greycat> if it's *only* *.cc and *.o files, it seems unrelated to your nicotine issue, though
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1774[17:24:41] <ratrace> btw, that .desktop launcher is calling nicotine, but it appears the actual command is nicotine.py? looking at the setup.py anyway
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1777[17:25:01] <greycat> but it says "Exec=nicotine"
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1780[17:25:42] <ratrace> wouldn't be the first time there's a broken .desktop packaged
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1783[17:26:10] <kells664> Hello
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1787[17:26:15] <kells664> Kochu myre
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1790[17:28:00] <nooooob> should I change the exec= bit
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1792[17:28:05] <nooooob> to nicotine.py?
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1805[17:31:14] <ratrace> nooooob: can you actually call up 'nicotine' from the command line?
1806[17:31:20] <ratrace> also can check with `which nicotine`
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1814[17:33:33] <nooooob> sure I will try that
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1816[17:36:27] <nooooob> I get :/usr/bin/nicotine"
1817[17:36:31] <nooooob> * "/usr/bin/nicotine"
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1820[17:38:26] <ratrace> ah yes, it's renamed: replaced-url
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1834[17:48:14] <nooooob> yes but that icon won't launch it
1835[17:48:44] <nooooob> so I'll rename then try again
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1838[17:49:45] <nooooob> upon retrying after changing the line in the .desktop file
1839[17:50:02] <nooooob> Failed to execute command "nicotine.py".
1840[17:50:07] <nooooob> Failed to execute child process "nicotine.py" (No such file or directory)
1841[17:50:15] <nooooob> so I'll put in the filepath I got before?
1842[17:50:41] <ratrace> you shouldn't've renamed it in the first place, debian packaging is renaming nicotine.py (from upstream) to just nicotine
1843[17:51:06] <ratrace> but you could try setting full path to it, just in case, Exec=/usr/bin/nicotine
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1846[17:51:54] <nooooob> didn't work
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1849[17:53:38] <ratrace> sorry then, no idea how to debug GUI launchers / menus
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1851[17:53:55] <nooooob> thanks for trying
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1855[17:57:25] <dob1> I put the drop rule before the log rule, this was the error I think
1856[17:57:33] <ratrace> dob1: it's usually part of the kernel facility so yea, by default kernel.log, but's in the journal as well
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1882[18:21:50] <twanny796> dirvish error: branch /backup/root:default image 20200304 failed
1883[18:21:50] <twanny796>
1884[18:21:58] <twanny796> any help on dirvish?
1885[18:22:33] <annadane> twanny796, your question lacks context
1886[18:22:35] <annadane> !ask
1887[18:22:35] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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1893[18:25:09] <datenritter> twanny796: there's a log file in your vault. check it out.
1894[18:25:18] <datenritter> twanny796: several logfiles actually.
1895[18:26:08] <datenritter> twanny796: have you initialized your backup with "dirvish --init -- vault root" ?
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1898[18:27:01] <twanny796> datenritter: yes actually 'divish --vault root --init'.
1899[18:27:02] * annadane feels stupid
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1901[18:27:23] <twanny796> this is when I am getting the error
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1903[18:28:14] <twanny796> in the folder 20200304, there's log rsync_error and summary
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1905[18:28:42] <datenritter> twanny796: check "rsync_error.log". there should be a simple "log", too.
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1908[18:30:14] <datenritter> twanny796: is this a remote backup (ssh-tunnel...)? if yes, you should check your ssh-connection first. dirvish cannot check and approve the servers fingerprint for you, as there is no interactive shell... (BTDT.)
1909[18:30:48] <twanny796> datenritter: no it's local. I have a usb mount on /backup
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1914[18:33:42] <datenritter> twanny796: anything in the rsync_error?
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1917[18:36:18] <twanny796> rsync error: protocol incompatibility (code 2) at rsync.c(74) [generator=3.1.3]
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1919[18:37:17] <greycat> what version of rsync is the other end running?
1920[18:37:40] <twanny796> rsync: symlink "/backup/root/20200304/tree/bin" -> "usr/bin" failed: Operation not permitted (1)
1921[18:37:40] <twanny796> rsync: symlink "/backup/root/20200304/tree/lib" -> "usr/lib" failed: Operation not permitted (1)
1922[18:37:40] <twanny796> rsync: symlink "/backup/root/20200304/tree/sbin" -> "usr/sbin" failed: Operation not permitted (1)
1923[18:37:40] <twanny796>
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1925[18:38:02] <greycat> does the "USB" have a Windows file system on it, or a Linux file system?
1926[18:38:04] <twanny796> I have *many* of these
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1928[18:38:13] <datenritter> greycat: if i got it right, it's a local backup. so there should be only one rsync... o.o
1929[18:38:34] <pirla> hello everyone. I have a CIF (?) InfraRed receiver on a HP Pavillion dv6500, how can I configure it? I'm using XUbuntu
1930[18:39:03] <towo`> pirla, then why you ask in 'debian, if you don't use it?
1931[18:39:06] <datenritter> twanny796: are you running dirvish as root?
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1933[18:39:08] <twanny796> greycat: FAT2
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1935[18:39:16] <pirla> Because I didn't get help in the Ubuntu channel
1936[18:39:20] <twanny796> datenritter: yes
1937[18:39:20] <greycat> maybe rsync is *so* confused by the inability to make simple symlinks that it reports as a protocol error
1938[18:39:24] <towo`> pirla, not our problem
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1942[18:39:38] <pirla> "thanks"...
1943[18:39:39] <greycat> twanny796: you need it to have a Linux file system if you're going to make backups of Linux things like symlinks
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1946[18:39:53] <greycat> and owners and groups and permissions ...
1947[18:40:27] <twanny796> greycat: ok, will try ext4
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1977[18:54:12] <nyov> is there a way to use ansible or salt without yaml? :D
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2003[19:05:32] <bacoder> hey guys
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2005[19:05:58] <bacoder> while trying to install debian on my thikpad the display is scrambled
2006[19:06:07] <bacoder> I have never ever seen this before in my entire life
2007[19:07:11] <bacoder> it is super weird : the display at the gui install is as if the bitmap bits had been "shifted out" into the next line
2008[19:07:22] <bacoder> thus making the image completely incomprehensible
2009[19:07:27] <bacoder> ...please help?
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2011[19:07:55] <Haohmaru> what's the video card on it?
2012[19:08:10] <bacoder> Radeon
2013[19:08:17] <Haohmaru> hm
2014[19:08:31] <bacoder> it says "vega graphics"
2015[19:08:35] <Haohmaru> and you're installing from "netinst" ?
2016[19:08:38] <bacoder> y
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2019[19:08:53] <de-facto> Hey, have you all checked your Let's Encrypt certs? click -> replaced-url
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2022[19:09:49] <Haohmaru> so then it probably uses free drivers, and they might be not very good at the moment
2023[19:10:03] <de-facto> ..."In order to complete revocations before the deadline of 2020-03-05 03:00 UTC, we are planning to start revoking affected certificates at 2020-03-04 20:00 UTC (3:00pm US EST)."...
2024[19:10:10] <nyov> didn't get a mail :) I'm good
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2027[19:11:07] <de-facto> ..."list of affected serial numbers"... replaced-url
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2029[19:11:52] <bacoder> Haohmaru, can I then try netinstall maybe
2030[19:11:59] <bacoder> and use cmd line instead of gui?
2031[19:12:05] <bacoder> (to install)
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2034[19:12:29] <Haohmaru> netinstall? you are running "netinst" iso, is that not the same?
2035[19:12:38] <de-facto> well you only get a mail if you set a valid mail address on registering your LE account... otherwise LE has no ability to reach you and possibly just silently revoke the cert
2036[19:12:47] <Haohmaru> netinst should offer graphical and non-graphical option in the very beginning
2037[19:12:49] <bacoder> Haohmaru: yes I meant try without the GUI installer
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2039[19:13:00] <bacoder> Haohmaru: yes exactly my point
2040[19:13:39] <Haohmaru> another option would be to get an installation iso that contains non-free drivers, where there should be radeon drivers which might work better
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2043[19:13:54] <de-facto> only wanted to give you a heads up, just in case...
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2046[19:14:56] <bacoder> Haohmaru: unfortunately same issues happens with the "non-graphical" install on netinst
2047[19:15:05] <Haohmaru> hm
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2049[19:15:25] <Haohmaru> it's not impossible that something with the comput0r is semi-broken
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2052[19:15:53] <bacoder> and I am almost certain this is the issue, there is something on the screen that is a red line, but its bits dont start and end on the beggining and end of screen
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2054[19:16:03] <bacoder> instead then continue on the second line of the screen
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2056[19:16:22] <bacoder> in a odd, squewed way
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2062[19:18:01] <Haohmaru> but other than that, it "works", right? you can move mouse cursor and/or focus options with the keyboard and some pixels on the screen reflect that?
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2064[19:18:31] <bacoder> yes, absolutely, I can see my line selection moving around, but can't read shit
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2067[19:19:47] <Haohmaru> does the picture "go wrong" from the very beginning, or after some specific moment, like, for example, when the installer tries to change screen resolution or some such?
2068[19:20:00] <bacoder> its from the start
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2070[19:20:10] <bacoder> as soon as the installer renders its first frame
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2072[19:20:21] <Haohmaru> but "BIOS" screen of the computer is okay?
2073[19:20:37] <bacoder> yeah, everything is okay, I can even boot into the "cancer os"
2074[19:20:40] <bacoder> aka win10
2075[19:20:49] <Haohmaru> aww, crapdows10
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2078[19:21:00] <Haohmaru> okay, then this gives some clues
2079[19:21:57] <Haohmaru> one thing you could do is to websearch your videocard model and "debian10" or so, and see what comes up
2080[19:22:01] <bacoder> but from my guess something like this is happening:
2081[19:22:05] <bacoder> normal:
2082[19:22:13] <bacoder> p0p1p2...
2083[19:22:21] <bacoder> a0a1a2
2084[19:22:23] <bacoder> b0b1b2
2085[19:22:29] <bacoder> and it is instead like this
2086[19:22:34] <bacoder> p0p1p2...
2087[19:22:51] <bacoder> bna0a1a2.....
2088[19:23:04] <bacoder> anb0b1b2.....
2089[19:23:09] <bacoder> looks like it
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2092[19:23:40] <Haohmaru> but if it's generally a new-ish model, the free driver might just not be good enough yet
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2094[19:24:39] <jhutchins_wk> Got a strange problem with LVM:
2095[19:24:41] <jhutchins_wk> pvcreate /dev/sdc/
2096[19:24:44] <jhutchins_wk> vgextend os /dev/sdc
2097[19:24:46] <jhutchins_wk> lvextend -r -l +100%FREE /dev/os/var /dev/sdc -> resize fails, claims not enough blocks: replaced-url
2098[19:25:14] <Haohmaru> bacoder if nothing else, you could try the non-free way: replaced-url
2099[19:25:34] <jhutchins_wk> I can't lvreduce because it claims there's data.
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2101[19:26:49] <nyov> jhutchins_wk: are you sure +100%FREE is correct there?
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2103[19:27:17] <nyov> I think + denotes addition. but not sure
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2105[19:28:02] <nyov> well, it says resize was successful, so I guess it's ok
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2110[19:31:37] <JyZyXEL> looks like the lv resize succeeded but the following ext4 resize failed because of wrong new size of ~120GiB on a ~110GiB lv
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2112[19:32:25] <JyZyXEL> jhutchins_wk: just manually run resize2fs?
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2116[19:33:59] <nooooob> still having trouble with getting my program to start
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2125[19:36:14] <nooooob> when I try to start nicotine in the DE it won't start period, when I try to start it in the terminal I get this: replaced-url
2126[19:37:27] * greycat googles "nicotine ValueError: insecure string pickle"
2127[19:37:49] <greycat> replaced-url
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2129[19:38:26] <greycat> replaced-url
2130[19:39:01] <nyov> jhutchins_wk: ah, somehow i read +100% of origin, sorry. reading comprehension fail.
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2136[19:42:12] <jhutchins_wk> Colleague ran the lvextend command without specifying the pv, it took all the space.
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2142[19:46:31] <twanny796> greycat: datenritter: annadane: problem solved with ext4 filesystem.
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2144[19:48:20] <nooooob> I removed the config.transfers.pickle file
2145[19:48:45] <nooooob> with the appropriate 'rm config.transfers.pickle'
2146[19:49:08] <nooooob> but still get an error
2147[19:49:21] <nooooob> should I make a blank file with that name there?
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2158[19:57:09] <datenritter> twanny796: :)
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2174[20:05:56] <lihpiuhhrehfpire> Hi Everyone
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2176[20:07:05] <lihpiuhhrehfpire> I have a question on preseed.cfg I downloaded the basic preseed.cfg about debian, but I cannot wrap my head around why rather than installing the distro it just run it live
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2182[20:07:52] <lihpiuhhrehfpire> "boot_command": [ "<esc><wait>", "install preseed/url=replaced-url
2183[20:07:52] <lihpiuhhrehfpire> "console-keymaps-at/keymap=us keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap=us <wait>", "<enter><wait>"
2184[20:08:12] <lihpiuhhrehfpire> when I do this it does not install it, and seems like everyone is using it
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2211[20:20:27] <datenritter> Does anybody know a reason why a (virtual) Debian 10 system can't see any USB devices, even though they have been passed through from the host? (Kernel 4.19.0-8 and XEN 4.11 here.)
2212[20:20:27] <datenritter> '
2213[20:20:40] <datenritter> 'xl usb-list' tells me, the device has been passed to the DomU. Not sure if this is a XEN-problem. The folks at #XEN are pretty quiet.
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2215[20:21:09] <datenritter> Maybe I'm just missing a driver or something. udev is installed, of course. lsusb doesn't show anything, though.
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2218[20:21:39] <datenritter> Could also be a bug in XEN, but the release notes say this should work.
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2348[20:55:17] <sk_tandt> Greetings everyone
2349[20:55:39] <sk_tandt> I'd like to compile the ppp module (to use openfortinet) on a Debian AMI image (running on AWS)
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2351[20:56:17] <sk_tandt> Since it runs the 4.19.0-8-cloud-amd64 kernel, would I be able to compile using the source from linux-source-4.19 ?
2352[20:56:26] <twobitsprite> weird issue... when I run "lsof" as root, I get the normal output (although it does seem to hang for about 20 seconds before exiting), but when I try to 'lsof | grep ...' I get a repeated message "lsof: no pwd entry for UID 70" that spams the terminal...
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2356[20:58:02] <khreshgsye> how do i fix yellow tint on display on debian?
2357[20:58:19] <twobitsprite> hmm, actually, I think it's a docker issue... there is a container running with a process running as UID 70... but, seems weird that simply piping to grep shows these errors, but they don't show up otherwise
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2363[21:01:20] <allizom> khreshgsye: by calibrating it, or if you haven't got any instrument, try xgamma
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2366[21:02:20] <khreshgsye> allizom: what instrument should i look for?
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2375[21:03:20] <allizom> colorimeter/spectrometer
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2377[21:03:51] <khreshgsye> allizom:
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2379[21:03:52] <khreshgsye> xgamma
2380[21:03:52] <khreshgsye> -> Red 1.000, Green 1.000, Blue 1.000
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2390[21:05:30] <allizom> khreshgsye: you'll have to fiddle with it a bit, with -rgamma $VALUE, -ggamma $VALUE and -bgamma $VALUE
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2393[21:06:08] <khreshgsye> damn..
2394[21:06:30] <allizom> which kind of display do you have? do you only have this issue with debian?
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2396[21:07:07] <khreshgsye> allizom: its an old laptop, sony vaio. and i just replaced the display topday and i get this yellow tint issue
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2402[21:09:23] <allizom> your best bet would be a proper calibration, but if you can't get an (even a second-hand) instrument I'd try that command
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2404[21:09:42] <jxel> good mornin
2405[21:10:11] <magyar> hi, I have a marvell wireless card which works fine, but when I suspend the laptop the wireless is not working any longer and the mac address has changed, so the only way to make it work again is to rmmod for marvell and then modprobe it. What would cause this issue?
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2410[21:11:55] <khreshgsye> ok thx allizom
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2432[21:23:34] <sk_tandt> I really don't see how to enable the PPP module on the Debian Cloud Images
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2434[21:24:16] <sk_tandt> ppp-modules-4.19.0-8-amd64-di is missing, and I presume changing the repository to the mainstream one would create a frankenstein
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2438[21:27:45] <BadLuckBob> I don't understand why seamless and resolution setting is disabled. I manually enabled them when the VM was down. replaced-url
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2440[21:29:32] <BadLuckBob> sorry, wrong channel!
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2460[21:47:00] <datenritter> khreshgsye: you could use argyllcms & dispcalgui with a colorimeter to create a color correction profile.
2461[21:48:50] <datenritter> khreshgsye: the docs will tell you wich colorimeters work well. an x-rite i1 should be fine. oh, and: if the rubber ever becomes sticky (could happen after a few years), wipe it with pure alcohol.
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2467[21:53:06] <nifker> Shouldnt linux kill applications hugging on the last available byte of RAM? Or how can I enable it that applications get killed taking the last remaining RAM?
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2471[21:53:41] <greycat> RAM isn't sorted chronologically
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2477[21:56:09] <datenritter> nifker: you might want to google "oomkiller"
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2484[22:02:24] <noooob> Hello! I am having trouble with two things, one is that for some reason my permissions to delete certain folders in my home directory; the other I was trying to get help with earlier which is that one of my apps will not open from within the desktop environment, only from the terminal when run as sudo... my user account is the only one on the
2485[22:02:24] <noooob> computer and is in the sudoers group so far as I know
2486[22:02:41] <noooob> I am on the most recent LTS of Debian
2487[22:03:34] <greycat> The current stable release is Debian 10, "buster". It's not under LTS at this time. Neither is the previous release, Debian 9, "stretch". That one is also still fully supported. The release BEFORE that, Debian 8, "jessie", is under LTS, which is limited security support.
2488[22:04:13] <datenritter> noooob: ls -liah & look at the file modes (i.e. access rights)
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2490[22:04:35] <datenritter> ls -l should be enough
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2493[22:05:22] <somiaj> noooob: sounds like you have some permission problems inside of $HOME. As for why you have to run a program with root (via sudo) can depend on the program.
2494[22:05:43] <datenritter> noooob: you are most probably not the owner of these files, but root is. guess you have messed up a little. don't play around as root if you don't know exactly what you are doing. anyway, you will need to become root (su - or sudo bash) to change ownershp and maybe modes of the said files.
2495[22:05:44] <greycat> from earlier, we know noooob has some files that are owned by other than themselves, probably root
2496[22:06:14] <datenritter> ^^
2497[22:06:26] <noooob> right except that I am root I guess I fucked up with some of the installing of some things, right
2498[22:06:32] <greycat> 11:19 greycat> nooooob: does this give you any output: find ~ ! -user "$LOGNAME"
2499[22:06:35] <greycat> 11:21 [freenode] nooooob|#debian> a long list of .cc and .o files
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2502[22:07:50] <datenritter> noooob: what do you mean, you ARE root? don't do everyday work as root. use a user account, especially in a graphical environment.
2503[22:08:06] <noooob> I do...
2504[22:08:18] <noooob> yes some of these files it says belong to root but I thought I was logged into my user account when these files were saved to the computer
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2506[22:08:53] <noooob> I don't do everyday work as root except I guess since this app only ran as root any files it created would be treated as belonging to root
2507[22:08:56] <greycat> You can use "chown" to change their ownership to you.
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2509[22:09:08] <datenritter> noooob: maybe you changed the owner by accident.
2510[22:09:30] <datenritter> noooob: if you run an application as root, the files created by that application will most probably belong to root, yes.
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2512[22:09:38] <greycat> "chown -R you /home/you" might be a good starting point
2513[22:10:04] <datenritter> also "cd; chown you .*" maybe
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2515[22:10:05] <greycat> just be *really* careful with that one -- don't make any typos
2516[22:10:33] <greycat> datenritter: no, that'll match .. as well, and end up changing /home
2517[22:10:49] <noooob> so greycat's line or datenritter's?
2518[22:11:15] <datenritter> greycat: erm... right
2519[22:11:21] <datenritter> noooob: not mine
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2521[22:11:31] <datenritter> noooob: don't do that.
2522[22:11:49] <noooob> will try this: "chown -R you /home/you"
2523[22:12:02] <datenritter> noooob: yes.
2524[22:12:05] <noooob> okay
2525[22:12:56] <trysten> i still don't understand suid fully
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2527[22:13:03] <noooob> that fixed the permissions issue, thanks
2528[22:13:09] <noooob> the other problem still persists
2529[22:13:13] <datenritter> anybody here who uses usb passthrough with xen in buster?
2530[22:13:15] <greycat> a setuid program runs as whoever owns the program, instead of running as you
2531[22:14:25] <trysten> i take it that means the program becomes responsible for keeping things secure in the case of SUID root
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2533[22:14:58] <greycat> Programs aren't very responsible creatures. The maintainer of the package is the one responsible for making sure it behaves.
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2535[22:15:37] <noooob> I will send them an e-mail!
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2553[22:31:26] <bacoder> If I want to make an offline package repo for debian
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2555[22:31:47] <bacoder> what would be my best course of action? I can think of scraping the repos websites with scripts
2556[22:31:54] <bacoder> but isn't there a better option?
2557[22:31:54] <greycat> !own repo
2558[22:31:55] <dpkg> To feed your own packages into apt, you need to create a repository with a Packages file that lists the packages. If you only have a few packages and don't have very sophisticated requirements, you can use <dpkg-scanpackages>. If you want to be able add/remove packages using regular Debian tools like dput then try <reprepro> or mini-dinstall. See replaced-url
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2561[22:33:34] <somiaj> bacoder: A lot depends on how much space you have and if you want a full mirror or not.
2562[22:33:45] <bacoder> sick
2563[22:34:02] <somiaj> bacoder: some just use apt-cacher-ng, which creates a local repo (that can be used off line) of only the packages you use. Though you do have to be online if you want to add new packages to the cache.
2564[22:34:04] <bacoder> I guess it depends on what is the average disk space that would take
2565[22:34:53] <bacoder> I have absolutely no clue on what is the average size of a full repo
2566[22:35:04] <bacoder> I imagine terabytes, but how many?
2567[22:35:13] <zerocool> bacoder: i think we are using apt-cacher-ng here, it seems to just work other than one thing... buster-backports/main Translation-en is always 404 and I'm not sure how to fix that
2568[22:35:55] <somiaj> bacoder: well if you only mirror a single arch it is a little smaller, but there are over 60,000 packages in buster, and you may only need to have access to 10k of them
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2571[22:36:28] <somiaj> apt-cacher-ng only mirrors the packages you actually use, but the cacher server should have constant internet access so it can download missing packages if you want to test out something new
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2575[22:38:29] <zerocool> oh wait no we use apt-mirror
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2578[22:39:11] <zerocool> using almost 230Gb
2579[22:39:39] <datenritter> sounds like a lot to me. do you keep old versions?
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2584[22:40:44] <bacoder> 230gb? thats virtually nothing
2585[22:40:59] <bacoder> I actually imagined several terabytes, like 40
2586[22:41:12] <zerocool> buster, backports, updates...
2587[22:41:37] <greycat> I think I remember jelly saying a full mirror was on the order of 1 TB, but I don't know if that was one arch, multiple arches, or just me mis-remembering.
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2590[22:42:25] <bacoder> I'll read that deb page and figure what is best for me
2591[22:42:34] <datenritter> do you really want to mirror everything?
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2593[22:43:32] <bacoder> probably not
2594[22:44:07] <bacoder> ideally I need to get all packages for apt-get install <pkg> and move them into another machine that is not connected
2595[22:44:18] <bacoder> or actually move them into some storage
2596[22:44:27] <bacoder> that I can then use on machines that are not connected
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2599[22:45:19] <bacoder> since I dont have to install a lot of stuff, then probably a solution like this is not super bad
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2601[22:46:29] <greycat> you could mount a removable device on /var/cache/apt/archives/ (be sure to mkdir partial and touch lock), install stuff, unmount, mount on the un-networked systems...
2602[22:46:51] <greycat> oh, and apparently partial/ is owned by _apt not root
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2652[23:21:25] <redrabbit> hello
2653[23:21:28] <redrabbit> which ftp server would you use on debian? something thats in the repos and easy to configure?
2654[23:21:58] <greycat> !ftp must die
2655[23:21:59] <dpkg> FTP MUST DIE! replaced-url
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2662[23:25:14] <datenritter> is there a trick to downgrade a number of pakages which i installed from testing for obvious purposes?
2663[23:25:40] <datenritter> aptitude reinstall <packagelist> won't work, it wants to reinstall the same version (from testing)
2664[23:25:45] <dvs> !downgrade
2665[23:25:45] <dpkg> Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
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2667[23:26:10] <datenritter> merci
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2691[23:39:40] <redrabbit> ok, I think i'm going to use NFS
2692[23:39:58] <redrabbit> any tips on the setup?
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2695[23:41:20] <redrabbit> replaced-url
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2706[23:52:53] <sponix2ipfw> redrabbit: it is posted on debian.org -- probably isn't a bad place to start
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