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1[00:01:39] <annadane> not really sure how to answer that but
be aware that in 9 (stretch) mysql was replaced by mariadb
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5[00:03:20] <RoyK> crucify_me: imho postgres is better on json
than mongodb - but then - it all depends on what you're used to
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7[00:03:37] * RoyK likes postgresql
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38[00:17:46] <amundsen> hi
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41[00:18:11] <amundsen> anyone here using mate desktop in
stretch?
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42[00:18:24] <annadane> !anyone
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43[00:18:24] <dpkg> Please do not ask if anyone can help you,
knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'.
Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_
"does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about
<popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask>
<polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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44[00:18:27] <annadane> amundsen, ^
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45[00:18:52] <amundsen> sorry
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46[00:19:06] <porter> I just upscaled from my laptops
14'' built in monitor via a vga+audo to hdmi converter ,
but in doing so I'v lost my dock and taskbar on the 16:9 full
hd monitor
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50[00:21:15] <amundsen> i've installed debian stretch in
two different computers and i have the same issue with the Mate
desktop icons. When i drag them a gray square surround them until i
drop them and the gray square becomes transparent again
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53[00:21:42] <amundsen> i don't think it's a bug, so
it must be something customizable
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57[00:23:20] <awal1> #debian-mate may be better if it exists
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68[00:27:27] <annadane> or the mailing list if you don't
get an answer here: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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77[00:31:16] <jhutchins> !mate
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78[00:31:16] <dpkg> The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of
GNOME 2, available since Debian 8 "Jessie" (and also in
wheezy-backports). To install, ask me about <install mate>.
replaced-url
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79[00:31:40] <jhutchins> awal1: Afraid #debian is as good as
mate support on irc gets.
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83[00:32:18] <annadane> oh well they left anyway
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84[00:32:25] <jhutchins> Yeah, post and run.
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85[00:32:27] <annadane> was going to say, contact the mate
people
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86[00:32:59] <jhutchins> Oh, there's #mate.
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88[00:33:20] <jhutchins> It sounds like a feature to mee too.
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90[00:34:29] <crucify_me> annadane: jhutchins very sorry --
thanks let me read that
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95[00:36:47] <crucify_me> RoyK thanks for your help I was
detained and couldn't reply
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101[00:40:25] <sangy> I'm stuck in a "can't
remove this package because I can't fix the dependencies for
this, use -f or specify a solution" while also "I try to
fix things because no space left on the device"
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103[00:40:45] <jhutchins> crucify_me: As far as DB market demand
goes, it's got to be MySQL, or one of it's forks like
mariadb.
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104[00:40:46] <sangy> 1) I have about 2GB, so I don't know
why this is the case, but 2) is there a way to ignore the broken
dependencies and try to remove first?
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106[00:41:37] <jhutchins> crucify_me: postgress is about 50/50
among amateur uses, but MySQL is by far the biggest in business
environments.
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107[00:41:50] <jhutchins> crucify_me: mongo is intended for
storing "objects".
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108[00:42:11] <crucify_me> jhutchins: could you elaborate on
your last post? thanks
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109[00:42:43] <crucify_me> it was recommended to learn on its
own free "university" (mongo)
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111[00:43:05] <crucify_me> by a friend not by mongodb..
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118[00:48:46] <sangy> nvm, I had to manually remove like 30+
kernels. Idk why they were left there
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119[00:50:37] <awal1> not debian
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121[00:51:18] <awal1> or a very very old system never cleaned
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124[00:52:41] <aloo_shu> #debian-mate
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125[00:52:46] <aloo_shu> sry
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127[00:52:52] <sangy> awal1: yeah, very old system I dared to
take over lol
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133[00:55:33] <aloo_shu> for the record, #debian-mate had 5
users me included when I was just looking if amundsen was still
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196[01:26:52] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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197[01:28:18] <tobiasBora> I'd like to know, I've in
/home/me/local/bin some executables, and in /home/me/local/lib some
libs that the executables should be aware of. How can I
automatiquely "connect them" ?
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250[01:49:08] <InSomN1aC> anyone that might have an idea as to
why exactly i can't access the wiki?
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262[01:55:35] <InSomN1aC> amyome that deals with the wiki in
here?\
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263[01:55:44] <InSomN1aC> anyone'\
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265[01:57:04] <annadane> InSomN1aC, are you on a vpn?
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268[01:57:27] <InSomN1aC> annadane, no
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274[01:58:54] <ghormoon> does systemd somehow log acpi events?
can I find out why power button does nothing even if both suspend
and power keys handles are set to suspend? or should I handle it
outside of systemd simmilar to setting the lid?
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275[01:58:57] <TimeTraveler_> what the hell
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276[01:59:04] <TimeTraveler_> why is #java invite only
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278[01:59:30] <ghormoon> TimeTraveler_: try ##java
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279[01:59:37] <InSomN1aC> TimeTraveler_, you have to be
registered
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283[02:00:10] <ghormoon> I was lazy to check, but some of those
## channels have the # counterparts invite only so people don't
split between them
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284[02:00:11] <InSomN1aC> but #java redirects to ##java
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285[02:00:24] <glick> i see
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286[02:00:25] <glick> thanks
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287[02:00:32] <InSomN1aC> annadane, any reason why you asked?\
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289[02:01:07] <annadane> InSomN1aC, because sometimes people
using VPNs have been blocked
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291[02:01:29] <Megaf> Debian has great universatibility
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292[02:01:35] <InSomN1aC> annadane, no i am on my direct line
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294[02:01:53] <Sir_Designer> universatibility?
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295[02:02:07] <Megaf> oh, I though I had created a new word
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296[02:02:13] <ghormoon> should systemd be mixed with acpid or
not?
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297[02:02:18] <Megaf> but it already exists in another spelling,
universability
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301[02:03:01] <Sir_Designer> universability is not in the
dictionary either
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302[02:03:09] <annadane> !offtopic
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303[02:03:09] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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305[02:03:40] <Sir_Designer> annadane i think communicating in
an understood manner is on topic
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307[02:03:44] <InSomN1aC> this looks like a problem with my
provider..checked on mobile still not accessible..turned off wifi
and tried vie 4G, wiki opens
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308[02:03:55] <Megaf> annadane, I wont stop, so please stop you
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311[02:04:12] <Megaf> the offtopic channel is a joke, almost
nobody there
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312[02:04:26] <InSomN1aC> Megaf, thanks your helping alot
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314[02:04:29] <annadane> i don't understand how you can
possibly justify continuing on like this when the bot factoid
specifically tells you not to do things like this
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315[02:04:34] <Megaf> Sir_Designer, Universalizability
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316[02:04:36] <annadane> take it up with the ops, not me
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318[02:04:42] <annadane> meanwhile, someone has an actual
support question
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320[02:05:22] <Megaf> ghormoon, I don't understand your
question
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321[02:05:25] <Megaf> they are different things
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322[02:05:47] <ghormoon> well, I can't make systemd suspend
on power button, so I'm wondering if I should have acpod
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323[02:05:50] <ghormoon> acpid or not
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325[02:06:09] <Megaf> why would systemd do that?
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326[02:06:13] <ghormoon> (on the contrary, closing the lid did
suspend until it was turned off)
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327[02:06:20] <Megaf> your power manager should do that
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331[02:06:25] <bazhang> Megaf, there is ##english
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334[02:06:41] <ghormoon> /etc/systemd/logind.conf
HandlePowerKey=suspend HandleSuspendKey=suspend
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335[02:06:42] <bazhang> Megaf, you wanting to chat here doesnt
make this the chat channel
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336[02:07:05] <Megaf> ghormoon, I see
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337[02:07:30] <Megaf> ghormoon, I've never seen that
working. Always relied on the DE power manager
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339[02:08:10] <ghormoon> well, I don't have DE. maybe then
I should make this ignore and use acpid?
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340[02:08:27] <Megaf> ghormoon, so, do you get any dmesg message
when you try to suspend?
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343[02:09:11] <ghormoon> no, but closing a lid gives me few
lines on unhandled key
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345[02:09:46] <Megaf> ghormoon, well, install acpi stuff and see
how it goes...
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346[02:09:59] <ghormoon>
replaced-url
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347[02:10:29] <ghormoon> and also it turns off keyboard
backlight. I'll need to somehow make a script o n lid open to
turn it back on :D
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350[02:11:06] <Megaf> you could send them an email address...
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351[02:11:17] <InSomN1aC> i guess no one has any suggestions as
to why would not be able to access the wiki
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352[02:11:34] <ghormoon> well, installing acpid made no change
regards dmesg messages
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353[02:11:57] <Megaf> InSomN1aC, Told you already, change your
IP
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354[02:12:03] <Megaf> your IP is black listed
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355[02:12:24] <Megaf> if your IP is dynamic, then maybe the
previous user of your IP did something nasty
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356[02:12:51] <Megaf> if it is static, then just get in touch
with them
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359[02:14:34] <InSomN1aC> in touch with who? there
shouldn't be a previous user of my ip, been less then some
months since i got this new line
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361[02:15:06] <Megaf> annadane, bazhang, you have any idea whos
the maintainer of the wiki? Or the only thing you know is bother
people for casual words now and then?
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362[02:15:20] <InSomN1aC> Megaf, how do you its specifically my
ip and not the whole provider?
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363[02:15:34] <Megaf> InSomN1aC, I dont
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364[02:15:49] <Megaf> also it was suggested before it could be
your provider range that is blocked
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365[02:15:57] <Megaf> in any case, get in touch with them
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366[02:16:44] <InSomN1aC> again why would i get in touch with
them before i know what exactly is the situation
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367[02:16:45] <Megaf> InSomN1aC, wiki@debian.org for private
direct contat
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368[02:16:57] <bazhang> Megaf, the debian wiki? sure
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369[02:16:57] <Megaf> InSomN1aC, debian-replaced-url
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371[02:18:13] <ghormoon> acpid when told to log, los lid
open/close ,but not the power button :(
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372[02:18:52] <Megaf> ghormoon, what laptop you have?
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373[02:19:20] <ghormoon> thinkpad 470s
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374[02:19:24] <Megaf> InSomN1aC, If I were you I'd just
send an email to tha list asking help on trying to figure out
what's going on
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377[02:19:54] <ghormoon> *T470s
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378[02:20:02] <Megaf> lovely
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381[02:20:36] <ghormoon> I had to already hack around wakeup on
lid open by script (oneshot service) so it won't turn on in
bagpack :D
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382[02:20:57] <ghormoon> maybe they changed way too much between
generations and the acpi packages are not ready :(
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383[02:21:33] <Megaf> ghormoon, do you use any WM at all?
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384[02:21:37] <Megaf> or 100% console?
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385[02:22:34] <Megaf> !wiki
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388[02:23:16] <debiandragon> if I'm running ubuntu now, and
I want to make a partition to set up a debian stretch distro, can I
thereafter resize the debian distro and knock out the ubuntu distro
(assuming they're on the same HDD)?
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389[02:23:47] <Megaf> maybe
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391[02:24:17] <InSomN1aC> Megaf, thanks will send them a mail
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392[02:24:28] <Megaf> depends if MBR or GPT, if MBR depends if
Primary, Logical or Extendend partition
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394[02:24:44] <ghormoon> Megaf: xmonad. but I've just
googled up someones issues with T520 (way older) and found out that
thinkpad needs ~1.5 sec hold on the button to actually send any
event
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395[02:24:48] <Megaf> debiandragon, if GPT or MBR depends on
file system
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396[02:24:53] <ghormoon> quick press does nothing
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397[02:25:07] <ghormoon> 1.5-2s hold does suspend it actually
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398[02:25:14] <ghormoon> even without acpid
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399[02:26:03] <Megaf> so, there we go?
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400[02:26:09] <ghormoon> so that is (partially) solved as I
don't think I can do more about it
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402[02:26:32] <ghormoon> one more thing that would be nice to
tweak to properly lock screen on all running sessions when
suspending
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403[02:26:49] <Megaf> You could just create something that
triggers a command when the power button is pressed or the lid is
closed
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404[02:26:53] <ghormoon> (it willl lock anyway about 1s after
opening as xautolock gets time, but still ...)
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405[02:27:23] <Megaf>
replaced-url
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407[02:27:30] <ghormoon> yeah, but how to properly run it on all
sessions, is there some shortcut for that? or should I somehow find
out all open X sessions?
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408[02:27:37] <Megaf>
replaced-url
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409[02:27:44] <Megaf> these lights might help
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412[02:28:23] <Megaf> InSomN1aC, Let me know how it goes
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413[02:28:26] <Megaf> I'm curious :)
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416[02:28:44] <InSomN1aC> Megaf, lets hope i get a emailed back
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417[02:28:47] <ghormoon> well the first assumes :0.0
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418[02:28:53] <Megaf> InSomN1aC, Let me know how it goes,
I'm curious. Since I have never seen that precise error
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420[02:29:10] <debiandragon> Megaf: ty for the responses - I
think the partition is ext4
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421[02:29:11] <ghormoon> that will work as long there will not
be more users (most likely not, but I wan to solve it properly in
case there will be later :))
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422[02:29:18] <InSomN1aC> Megaf, first time for me as well
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423[02:29:19] <debiandragon> primary..
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424[02:29:43] <Megaf> debiandragon, hold on, let me test
something here
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427[02:30:24] <InSomN1aC> i came to the conclusion that must be
something with my ip or provider because its the same error on
mobile while connected to wifi
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428[02:30:38] <ghormoon> hm, found this, looks promising, will
need some testing though
replaced-url
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429[02:31:03] <Megaf> I love when people come with these unusual
errors
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430[02:31:09] <Megaf> or situations
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432[02:31:35] <Megaf> ghormoon, oh yeah, xscreensaver can do
lots of stuff
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433[02:31:36] <InSomN1aC> can' be bother to turn on my
other pc and do more test..on laptop
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435[02:31:57] <ghormoon> well, the part around that is the
important thing :)
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436[02:32:10] <Megaf> debiandragon, do you know if you are using
MBR or GPT partition table?
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437[02:32:23] <ghormoon> I'll just thow i3lock there
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439[02:32:39] <ghormoon> but the rest picking up users and
display variables is the important part
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440[02:32:43] <InSomN1aC> at least i fixed the touchpad on this
thing
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442[02:32:56] <InSomN1aC> and that without the wiki
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443[02:33:00] <ghormoon> I'll test tomorrow, gonna sleep
now, gn and thanks
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445[02:33:25] <Megaf> debiandragon, as root, run fdisk -l
/dev/sda
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446[02:33:27] <debiandragon> Megaf: :) MSDOS ;)
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448[02:33:33] <Megaf> and tell me the disklabel type, please
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450[02:35:00] <debiandragon> Megaf: disklabel type: dos, 512byte
blocks, an 80gb drive with ext4 @ 76g, ext4 extended @ 2g, and swap
@ 2g
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451[02:36:11] <Megaf> debiandragon, so, acording to my tests, if
you create a second primary parition
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452[02:36:21] <Megaf> then delete the first primary partition
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453[02:36:37] <Megaf> you wont be able to grow back to the
begining of the disk the second partition
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456[02:37:44] <debiandragon> Not what I wanted to hear. :) damn.
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457[02:37:46] <debiandragon> ok ty
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459[02:38:33] <Megaf> debiandragon, let me simulate other
scenario here, just a sec
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462[02:39:52] <debiandragon> Megaf: are you attempting to build
say the back end of the primary as another primary, then delete 1st
primary, then remake 1st, then move 2nd to first, then grow 1st to
the end of the disk again? that might work. ;)
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463[02:39:57] <debiandragon> no idea how you're doing this
so far
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464[02:39:58] <debiandragon> *fast
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primary, extended and logical partitions
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471[02:42:30] <debiandragon> pretty crazy
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473[02:44:52] <Megaf> interesting
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474[02:45:01] <Megaf> maybe it works with extended partitions
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476[02:45:38] <debiandragon> thanks very much for doing this.
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478[02:46:07] <Megaf> debiandragon, but
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479[02:46:28] <Megaf> what I would recommend is, in case you can
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480[02:46:38] <Megaf> most of the programs are installed in the
/usr
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482[02:46:53] <Megaf> so /home and /usr usually are the biggest
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485[02:47:13] <Megaf> And I was just using gparted to mess
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486[02:47:18] <dvs> Definately make /home a separate partition
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487[02:47:40] <aloo_shu> just was to suggest the same - re use
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488[02:47:44] <Megaf> debiandragon, you can try and simulate
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490[02:48:06] <Megaf> and I too suggest a /home there :)
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492[02:50:31] <debiandragon> Megaf: ah, right on, ;)
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495[02:51:15] <aloo_shu> I do not know what reputation linux
LVM2 has currently, but setting up a large chunk of a 500GB disk as
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502[02:54:43] <debiandragon> Yeah ty guys I just googled the
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503[02:54:45] <aloo_shu> I can confirm booting an os residing on
lvm with grub worked fine, sometimes other linuxes residing
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514[02:57:54] <Megaf> debiandragon, glad we could at lease shine
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520[03:03:06] <debiandragon> It's weird, like, I know that
I'm asking a ton of questions, but I also know I've been
googling crap for days... :) Started with ubuntu maybe 2ish months
ago, been using debian for 1.5 weeks, trying LFS now. :) Thing that
pushed me to LFS was xmonad needing 1gb of dependencies, then trying
to install the suckless stuff and finding out that I didn't
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523[03:03:26] <debiandragon> Thanks for helping with the
partitioning planning - going to try to smash this thing over the
next few days. :)
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525[03:03:36] <debiandragon> running with an old laptop, want to
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575[03:50:37] <sim590> I'm trying to print multiple copies
of a file with a brother printer. I have all the packages mentionned
on the page
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588[04:01:20] <TimeTraveler> hi
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590[04:01:35] <TimeTraveler> does anyone know a good snes
emulator for debian?
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592[04:02:59] <bazhang> ,v zsnes
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593[04:03:00] <judd> No package named 'zsnes' was
found in amd64.
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594[04:03:09] <bazhang> odd
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595[04:03:21] <bazhang> there's another as well iirc
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597[04:04:13] <TimeTraveler> hmm. why isnt zsnes included?
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598[04:05:38] <bazhang> ,v snes9x
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599[04:05:39] <judd> No package named 'snes9x' was
found in amd64.
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600[04:05:45] <bazhang> what!
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601[04:05:56] <bazhang> thats the one that works a treat
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602[04:06:27] <annadane> TimeTraveler, look into retroarch
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603[04:06:29] <TimeTraveler> snes9x isnt free i think
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604[04:06:37] <annadane> not SNES specific but it has all kinds
of consoles including SNES
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605[04:06:54] <annadane> it's maybe a little counter
intuitive to use compared to a pure SNES emulator
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608[04:07:22] <TimeTraveler> too bad openemu is only mac os
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609[04:07:59] <annadane> you can probably get zsnes/snes9x or
whatever online as a tar
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612[04:08:28] <annadane> afaik emulators aren't illegal,
just the roms
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615[04:09:48] <annadane> ,v retroarch
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616[04:09:49] <judd> Package: retroarch on amd64 -- buster:
1.3.6+dfsg1-1; sid: 1.3.6+dfsg1-1; stretch: 1.3.6+dfsg1-1;
experimental: 1.4.1+dfsg1-1
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617[04:09:57] <bazhang> the roms are mostly free and can be
played int he browser these days
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618[04:09:58] <annadane> yeah, comfortably in stretch
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619[04:10:06] <petn-randall> It's perfectly legal if you
bought them. And in many countries it's legal to make private
copies for your friends and family.
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620[04:10:12] <bazhang> nothing illegal about that
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621[04:10:13] <sim590> well. Okular has a bug where it
doesn't preserver integrity of printing parameters...
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622[04:10:15] <annadane> if you bought them, yes
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623[04:10:20] <bazhang> nopes
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628[04:10:37] <bazhang> freely available and legal for all
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629[04:10:52] <annadane> first i've heard of it...
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630[04:11:03] <bazhang> it's been recent so perhaps you
didnt know
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631[04:11:51] <porter> I just upscaled from my laptops
14'' built in monitor via a vga+audo to hdmi converter ,
but in doing so I'v lost my dock and taskbar on the 16:9 full
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635[04:12:28] <TimeTraveler> hmm no zsnes
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636[04:12:45] <Megaf> nope
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637[04:12:53] <Megaf> unfortunetly
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640[04:14:02] <Megaf> TimeTraveler, it's only available in
32 bit
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642[04:14:09] <Megaf> so you have to go back in time
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643[04:14:26] <TimeTraveler> damn
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644[04:14:32] <TimeTraveler> looks like my only option is higan
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645[04:14:41] <TimeTraveler> but it doesnt look well documented
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649[04:15:40] <annadane> of course if you don't mind 200 MB
of packages you can install wine and run zsnes or whatever with wine
(but i'm sure it's available for linux as a tar)
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651[04:15:46] <Megaf> TimeTraveler, snes9x
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652[04:16:57] <Megaf> oh
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653[04:17:00] <Megaf> nevermind
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654[04:17:06] <bazhang> saidit
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655[04:17:37] <annadane> (actually i think wine is 563 or so
MB...)
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656[04:17:55] <annadane> whatever, never mind
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657[04:18:03] <bazhang> no need for wine to run snes9x
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658[04:18:10] <annadane> yeah, no
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659[04:18:17] <bazhang> ?
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660[04:18:24] <bazhang> why mention wine
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661[04:18:50] <annadane> oh i don't know why i mentioned
wine at all. you can of course easily find it online without it
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662[04:18:55] <annadane> just ignore me
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663[04:19:05] <bazhang> ?
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664[04:19:09] <bazhang> find what
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665[04:19:20] <annadane> snes9x or any other emulator
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666[04:20:11] <bazhang> as in their homepage
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667[04:20:14] <bazhang> yeah
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673[04:23:26] <rauchenmann> hi
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674[04:24:05] * dvs hides behind a rock
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675[04:24:16] <Megaf> hm, zsnes wont compile here
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676[04:24:19] <Megaf> for some reason
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677[04:24:56] <Megaf> get this error
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681[04:26:40] <TimeTraveler> zsnes works for 386 arch only
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690[04:31:06] <ryouma> the redshift man page says the full
documentation is in the info page. there is no package for that.
where is it?
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693[04:32:41] <Megaf> internet?
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694[04:34:25] <Megaf> TimeTraveler, seems like our only choice
is Higan indeed
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695[04:34:58] <ryouma> Megaf: so debian packages sometimes do
not include the info pages anywhere in debian?
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697[04:35:32] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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699[04:36:23] <tobiasBora> I'd like to do for educational
purpose a small game, that quit after n seconds the ssh connection.
"Like this shell will autodescruct in 10 seconds"
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700[04:36:40] <tobiasBora> I'm stupid
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701[04:36:46] <tobiasBora> & should be my friend
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703[04:39:07] <Megaf> ryouma, sorry, cant help. Dont know. Maybe
try to figure out who is the package maintainer and talk to him,
packages.debian.org is great help for that
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707[04:41:49] <x54806b45> I have a backup of my hard drive that
I made with dd from an unencrypted Debian system.
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708[04:42:15] <x54806b45> Now I want to restore the backup, but
I'd like to add full volume encryption.
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713[04:43:17] <x54806b45> I was thinking about setting up an
encrypted volume using the installer, and then mounting the backup
somewhere, and the scp ing the files onto the drive
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716[04:44:03] <x54806b45> will this work? is this stoopid? what
should I do to create an encrypted system given my backup of an
unencrypted system?
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723[04:49:46] <x54806b45> is this the wrong channel?
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724[04:49:49] <Megaf> x54806b45, Id use rsync -az --progress
/source /destination
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725[04:49:56] <Megaf> but yeah, should work
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727[04:51:09] <n4dir> there should be some information on the
new installation which are not to be found on the old (unencrypted)
installation . /etc/fstab ; then cryptsetup and you will probably
use lvm.
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728[04:51:13] <n4dir> else i think it should work
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729[04:51:38] <Megaf> x54806b45, wait, you want to do for the
whole system?
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730[04:51:52] <Megaf> Then the odds of working are slimmer, way
slimmer
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731[04:51:55] <n4dir> i would install the new system as minimal
as possible.
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732[04:52:12] <Megaf> I would just copy the iimportant files
from home
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733[04:52:12] <Megaf> :P
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736[04:52:33] <n4dir> Like Megaf said i would use rsync instead,
including also --delete, but then you got the problem i just spoke
about.
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737[04:52:59] <n4dir> perhaps searching the web for "how to
restore a cryptsetup installation" may give hints (i
didn't find any, but only had a quick search)
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739[04:53:23] <x54806b45> yah, OK, maybe my best bet is to
install a new system, then rsync over home, after that I can look
into /opt or various /etc things that I may want to copy iver
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740[04:53:48] <n4dir> for sure less headaches. though i still
think your idea may work.
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745[04:54:53] <x54806b45> OK, thanks for the advice, I'll
process carefully
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746[04:55:00] <n4dir> good luck :-)
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750[04:58:05] <x54806b45> does anyone actually still use swap?
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754[04:58:45] <x54806b45> also, the default installer settings
want 256MB for /boot, isn't that a lot?
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759[05:00:13] <annadane> you can use lvm
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760[05:00:55] <uxfi> query badatom
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761[05:01:01] <uxfi> oops
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762[05:01:30] <x54806b45> yah, using lvm the default setting was
16GB of swap and 256mb for /boot. am I crazy to think that when the
machine has 16gb of ram that there's no way I need that much
swap
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763[05:01:55] <x54806b45> and, like, isn't the boot image
just a few mb?
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765[05:02:25] <x54806b45> I may be totally wrong, let me know
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766[05:03:36] <n4dir> i think i have heard that swap is needed
for hibernation or suspending (but as i don't do such ... ).
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768[05:03:54] <x54806b45> I see
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769[05:04:07] <x54806b45> well that's a reason to have some
then.
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770[05:04:20] <n4dir> my boot directory has 44 MB (but i sure
wouldn't worry about a partition of 256 MB ...)
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771[05:04:20] <annadane> actually though i'm not sure
whether using lvm with boot is a good idea, i shouldn't say
anything
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772[05:05:02] <x54806b45> lol, the default lvm settings seem to
have a /boot and an encrypted partition
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773[05:05:14] <n4dir> annadane: he wants to encrypt. doing that
with lvm is kinda default, iirc (if you want to do it only with
cryptsetup, it's quite a bit of manual work during
installation)
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774[05:05:42] <annadane> oh, okay.
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776[05:05:57] <n4dir> i am talking slightly over my head, btw
:-)
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777[05:06:07] <ryouma> you can do encryption without lvm in
installation without manual work /i think/
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779[05:06:31] <ryouma> i.e. no command lines just use the
installer
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780[05:06:57] <annadane> can probably debootstrap it
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781[05:06:58] <n4dir> ryouma: yeah, but you have to click back
and forth a bit. But then: my experience is as old as now old-stable
is. Might well have changed.
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782[05:07:03] <x54806b45> yah, but I am not sure I like these
defaults
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783[05:07:29] <x54806b45> this disk only has 500gb, so 16gb is
not insignificant
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785[05:07:46] <n4dir> can't you use a swapfile instead?
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786[05:07:57] <n4dir> i for one never create a swap partition.
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787[05:08:11] <x54806b45> prolly, that's why I am thinking
about not making a swap partition
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788[05:08:23] <ryouma> just make a tiny one
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789[05:08:30] <ryouma> unless you are on a laptop
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790[05:08:44] <x54806b45> this is a laptop, yes
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792[05:09:05] <ryouma> so you need all 16 unless you have a
better solution
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793[05:09:21] <ryouma> or don't hibernate
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798[05:09:34] <x54806b45> OK, well, glad I asked
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799[05:09:37] <ryouma> there might be a compressor
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801[05:09:41] <x54806b45> :)
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806[05:10:45] <x54806b45> am I right that 128 mb is more than
enough for /boot?
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807[05:10:50] <ryouma> swap files do work, and it used to be
said that they pass through the fs to the disk (or in your case to
the device mapper?) but recently people say they are deprecated and
you need a partition. idk.
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809[05:11:18] <ryouma> x54806b45: you might want to stick a
rescue iso there or forget to delete kernels
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811[05:11:44] <n4dir> yup. i would hate it to have a too small
/boot and regret it later.
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814[05:12:24] <x54806b45> see. this is why I came here to ask
these questions. turns out the defaults are justified :)
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815[05:12:30] <ryouma> i would avoid lvm, but many peopel think
it's great. my suspicion is that most of those people are
either major enthusiasts or sysadmins.
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816[05:12:48] <n4dir> same here, ryouma.
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817[05:13:01] <ryouma> oh good i was afraid i would have to
justify my claim :)
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819[05:13:32] <n4dir> yeah. most really seem to like it. but for
me it is just extra stuff to learn (and as i put all in / anyway ...
)
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820[05:14:17] <n4dir> most -> most who use it. duh
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834[05:22:58] <tesko> what does this mean ? Clearsigned file
isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require
authentication?)
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838[05:23:36] <tesko> this happens when i altered sources.list
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839[05:23:38] <tesko> to sid
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847[05:25:41] <n4dir> !debian-next
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848[05:25:41] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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849[05:25:58] <n4dir> sid only has one line in the repos list.
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replaced-url
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860[05:29:00] <n4dir> you got that one line and get the error?
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862[05:29:07] <tesko> so it doesnt need contrib non-free?
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863[05:29:28] <n4dir> hence i said: # like that. if you want
contrib or non-free (or both), then those too.
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864[05:29:49] <n4dir> what i meant is: no entries for updates
(like stable has)
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878[05:37:52] <drwhitey> why the google news item for steven
hawkings dissertation. Cant everyone see that an excellent
understanding of molecules and motion will never explain the most
important things in life such as why??? The tiger ate katy
perry's vain boyfriend in her roar video and how she managed to
cope without a man and become her own hero!!
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884[05:42:22] <drwhitey> why not just destroy all those crooked
nigger dick suckin, wife stealing, girl raping, girl murdering
nazi/jew filth that wont let white doctors raise their families.
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894[05:46:16] <drwhitey> Do you embiciles really think anyone
gives a goddamn shit about steven hawkings diarrhea of the mouth
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raped and murdered by naxi/jew filth that steal the wives of white
doctors and hand them to croiked nigger dick suckin girl murdering
trash
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903[05:54:19] <drwhitey> fuck you giddamn crooked nigger dick
suckin, girl murdering nazi/jew filth to hell and beyond
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904[05:54:32] <dax> !ops drwhitey
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905[05:54:33] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: dax complains
about a problem (see above)
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930[06:10:32] <Natechip> installing debian 9 buster testing.
installation step failed: select and install software
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931[06:11:05] <annadane> Natechip, maybe select a different
mirror
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932[06:11:39] <annadane> Natechip, also, you should probably
install debian 9 (9 is stretch, not buster, buster is 10) and from
there upgrade to buster
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935[06:11:48] <Natechip> oh
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936[06:11:52] <Natechip> I meant 10
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939[06:12:09] <Natechip> though it does say 9 on the
installation gui
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940[06:12:11] <annadane> !testing installer
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941[06:12:11] <dpkg> Repeat after me: the testing installer is
for testing the <installer>, not for installing
<testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using
the <stable> installer and ask me about
<stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against
the debian-installer pseudopackage.
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942[06:12:22] <ross`> I am getting ssl_error_rx_record_too_long
from firefox when connecting to apache2.
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944[06:13:01] <ross`> I have enabled modssl, I have also
properly configured my virtualhost configuration. In addition, I
have checked that ports.conf is listening on port 443 when mod ssl
is enbaled.
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945[06:13:02] <Natechip> annadane
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946[06:13:16] <Natechip> why should i install 10 from 9?
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948[06:13:24] <ross`> Does anyone have anything I can try since
nothing on google is helping me?
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949[06:13:26] <Natechip> just trying to understand
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950[06:13:50] <dax> because the testing installer is for testing
the installer, not for installing testing
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951[06:14:11] <dax> i.e. it is likely to be significantly more
broken than doing a stable->testing upgrade
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952[06:14:19] <Natechip> ohhh
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954[06:14:29] <Natechip> dax one sec ill pm u
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955[06:14:32] <dax> no you won't
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956[06:14:42] <Natechip> mkay nvm
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957[06:14:45] <Natechip> I guess i wont
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958[06:14:51] <Natechip> but thanks for the answer
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961[06:15:55] <ross`> Also, I can't figure out why it seems
to completely ignore my port 80 virtual host... It gives me the
defaultroot even when there is an explicit server name and document
root
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965[06:18:01] <ross`> Nevermind.. it seems something changed
requiring sites-enabled to end in .conf
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968[06:20:40] <Natechip> !stable->testing
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970[06:20:44] <Natechip> ...
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971[06:21:04] <Natechip> uhh
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972[06:22:04] <Natechip> annadane
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973[06:22:15] <Natechip> how to see stable to testing?
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975[06:22:20] <annadane> ! stable->testing
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976[06:22:20] <dpkg> Well... buster doesn't even exist yet,
but when it does, it's going to be a bumpy ride for a few
months. Don't run Debian "testing" just after a
release unless you like helping fix bugs. Testing is a pre-release
distribution without timely security support; ask me about
<moving target> <testing> <testing security>. If
you feel you need instructions on how to upgrade, you should wait a
while.
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977[06:22:31] <annadane> well
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978[06:22:39] <annadane> i think there are probably notes for
now
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979[06:22:53] <annadane> but essentially what you need to do,
despite what dpkg tells you, is,
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980[06:22:58] <annadane> !buster sources.list
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981[06:22:58] <dpkg> Debian 9 "Stretch" has only just
been released which means that it's a bad time for people who
don't know a lot about Debian to be trying to use the
'testing' release (aka buster). If you have to ask this
question, you shouldn't!
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983[06:23:06] <annadane> oh for the love of
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987[06:23:43] <Natechip> annadane: uh oh
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988[06:24:26] <Natechip> ! testing security
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989[06:24:27] <dpkg> Security updates in testing are delayed by
the normal testing migration *and* may be further delayed by missing
dependencies, etc. See
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990[06:24:46] <annadane> does anyone actually know what you need
in your sources list for buster? i honestly can't remember.
anyway, once you have it in your sources you should be able to just
apt update + apt upgrade + apt dist-upgrade
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991[06:25:06] * annadane checks the wiki
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992[06:25:12] <nkuttler> annadane: man 5 sources.list
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994[06:25:20] <Natechip> ...
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1003[06:28:52] <annadane> i know for sid it's just a single
line, it may be the same for testing
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1010[06:31:54] <annadane> nkuttler, the man page seems to
indicate one does indeed only need one line for testing, but i could
swear that that isn't accurate
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1012[06:33:33] <annadane> actually, no, sorry, this is all wrong.
i apologize, Natechip
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1013[06:33:37] <annadane> i'll give you a proper sources
list
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1016[06:34:50] <Natechip> ok
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1017[06:35:27] <annadane> i believe
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1018[06:35:36] <annadane> i'm surprised the information
isn't easier to find
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1031[06:40:48] <Natechip> annadane thanks
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1033[06:41:47] <Natechip> annadane how do I verify I am on buster
now
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1035[06:41:59] <annadane> cat /etc/debian_version
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1037[06:42:09] <annadane> if you've upgraded to buster
completely you probably need to restart
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1038[06:42:28] <annadane> Natechip, also, yeah, if you do have to
ask questions like that be careful if you want to use testing
because it *can* break.
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1039[06:43:03] <annadane> and you won't be able to
downgrade, it goes stable > testing > unstable but not the
other way, you would have to reinstall if you want to switch back to
stable
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1041[06:43:23] <Natechip> thats fine
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1042[06:43:42] <Natechip> im familiar with other linux distros
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1043[06:43:47] <Natechip> never debian
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1044[06:43:48] <annadane> Natechip, you won't automatically
have buster just by putting "buster" in your sources list.
you need to "apt update" "apt upgrade" "apt
dist-upgrade" and pay attention to what apt is telling you, you
don't want it to remove packages you don't want removed
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1046[06:43:56] <Natechip> yes ik
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1048[06:44:09] <Natechip> yes Ik. thanks :D
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1049[06:44:59] <annadane> sorry for the vague reply. that really
did take unnecessarily long.
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1050[06:45:23] <Natechip> it is fine
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1051[06:45:25] <Natechip> i have time
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1052[06:47:04] <Natechip> i would like to test debian
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1053[06:47:12] <Natechip> ive been on manjaro for a year now
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1061[06:55:03] <annadane> (i actually think security.debian.org
doesn't support testing but apt will tell you that during
upgrades if that's the case)
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1324[09:46:54] <darxmurf> any news about this bug report ?
replaced-url
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1325[09:46:55] <judd> Bug
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1327[09:47:46] <darxmurf> everybody is disabling CIFS 1.0
protocol and it's a bit annoying then as folders are missing
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1337[09:53:14] <RoyK> the SMB1 protocol has been outdated for
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1343[09:57:28] <darxmurf> but some folders are missing with
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1346[09:57:42] <darxmurf> so... don't have other choice to
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1458[11:03:46] <ForceRecon> I noticed today that after a fresh
install of stretch that in System monitor under File Systems it only
shows the root and boot.. In the past it used to show swap as
well... not that it is important.. but is it the same for others as
well?
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1498[11:22:23] <opiwahn> hi. I am searching for the right linux
distro. If I would like to have it debian based and a rolling
release model would be "testing" than the right choice? or
is testing so short after stretch was released not stable enough for
productive ?
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1499[11:23:42] <Nawab> opiwahn: stretch is quite right for using
as a stable distro,though debian philosophy dissuades from using
testing(sid) for new linux users as i can become frustrating
sometimes
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1500[11:24:22] <Nawab> you can try with stretch,and once you feel
you hav reached the correct know-how,jump to buster,which will be
the new release
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1504[11:27:37] <opiwahn> ok thank. think ill go with stretch then
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1505[11:27:39] <opiwahn> first
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1508[11:28:30] <Nawab> opiwahn: there are also some great linux
starter books
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1583[12:12:15] <Raven737> Hi, question: I am in debian installer
via ssh. At the top, i see (1*installer) 2 shell 3 shell 4- log ...
How do i switch to 2 shell? Thank you!
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1585[12:14:56] <jim> are you at the installation menu?
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1588[12:15:54] <Raven737> jim: yes, I want to set up disks
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1590[12:16:47] <jim> can you do that from the partition tool?
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1592[12:17:51] <jim> anyway, you can run a shell from that
menu... I don't remember how to get to the shell from ssh
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1593[12:18:23] <Raven737> jim: yes, but I want special options I
can't choose via the parition tool, but never mind, i just open
a second ssh and choose shell xD
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1594[12:18:57] <jim> but I do know you can run one from the
installation menu
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1595[12:20:21] <Raven737> jim: yes, the options at the top seem
to indicate that there is a way to switch, similar to ctrl-alt-f2 or
such.. except via ssh that will continue to the next step (f2?) so
hence i ask how I may switch
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1598[12:21:35] <hipodilski> anyone who has succeeded changing
gdm3 default console from tty1
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1600[12:23:11] <jim> hipodilski, is this from a running
installation?
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1601[12:24:11] <jim> normmaly, debian starts 6 gettys, on alt-f1
- alt-f6... alt-f7 should be the X display
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1614[12:28:21] <dj-death> Hi all
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1615[12:28:38] <dj-death> I'm trying to figure out why
compiling a binary with -m32 fails
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1617[12:28:51] <rafalcpp> how to install kerne module / driver
"b2net" ?
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1618[12:28:56] <dj-death> I think last time I tried it, it worked
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1619[12:29:00] <dj-death> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
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1623[12:29:54] <dj-death> oh dear
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1624[12:30:02] <dj-death> forgot to install gcc multlib :(
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1625[12:30:08] <dj-death> sorry for the noise!
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1677[12:50:42] <bumbar> i'm on debian 8.9 (jessie) and
trying to do dist-upgrade, but nothing gets upgraded
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1683[12:53:57] <abrotman> bumbar: dist upgrade to what?
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1685[12:54:31] <bumbar> abrotman, to stretch
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1686[12:54:47] <abrotman> bumbar: pastebin your sources.list ..
also, have you done any pinning?
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1688[12:56:14] <bumbar>
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1690[12:56:37] <bumbar> you're right, i have some pin files
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1693[12:57:36] <bumbar> it's upgrading now
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1694[12:57:44] <abrotman> enjoy
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1717[13:09:49] <bumbar> abrotman, i was on the wrong server
(<.<), here's the correct one sources.list:
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1724[13:12:49] <abrotman> bumbar: is it still not working?
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1727[13:13:27] <abrotman> bumbar: the sources you just pasted are
still pointing at Jessie?
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1732[13:14:14] <bumbar> should i change to stretch? this
won't break anything?
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1740[13:17:59] <jelly> bumbar: if your goal is to do a release
upgrade to stretch, then yes, one of the steps is actually changing
the sources to point to stretch
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1741[13:18:32] <jelly> bumbar: go read the stretch release notes
and follow them. We'll be right here.
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1742[13:18:40] <jelly> dpkg, jessie->stretch
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1743[13:18:40] <dpkg> Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of
the <release notes>
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1746[13:19:17] <rant> I hope that's the royal we.. cause I
for one won't be here
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1747[13:19:46] <jelly> operators are waiting for YOUR call!
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1750[13:20:23] <abrotman> I might be napping
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1761[13:24:27] <rafalcpp_> how to force kernel to use other
driver for NIC? it keeps loading old one hmm
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1768[13:25:41] <rafalcpp_> e.g. I think eth5 should use be2net.
how can I tell system to try using it even if it defaults to netxen?
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1771[13:27:16] <abrotman> did you check the udev settings?
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1772[13:27:28] <rafalcpp_> !blacklist
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1773[13:27:28] <dpkg> To blacklist a Linux kernel module,
create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line
similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name".
If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename
/bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'.
IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a
module at installation time, ask me about <installer
blacklist>.
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1774[13:27:32] <abrotman> not sure if that'll work, but if
you want to mangle the driver, sure .. give it a whirl
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1776[13:27:46] <rafalcpp_> abrotman: how that is configured on
debian actually?
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1778[13:29:19] <jelly> rafalcpp_: first, both drivers need to
bind the save pci or usb id. Second, do what dpkg said wrt
blacklisting the unwanted driver. It's actually done that way
actually.
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1780[13:29:31] <jelly> same* pci id
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1782[13:30:06] <rafalcpp_> !blacklist-initramfs
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1783[13:30:06] <dpkg> If your kernel uses an initramfs image
(e.g. Debian stock kernel images), you need to run
«update-initramfs -u» in order to refresh its copy of
blacklist table. Otherwise, early bootup won't follow your
blacklist requests in e.g. /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf
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your device's pci-id (or usb-id), it won't even try to
bind it
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1914[14:42:36] <ForceRecon> is there a known application that
when you click on phone numbers on websites that it opens a dialer
and calls out over the internet so you can use your headset instead
of a phone
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1916[14:43:36] <FinalX> Skype?
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1919[14:45:12] <ne2k> ForceRecon, you probably want a browser
plugin that handles phone numbers via a VoIP application. there are
many. Google Talk and Chrome is pretty good.
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1922[14:46:44] <number28> My boot up time has been increased by a
couple of minutes. This is due to my Network Manager Wait Online
service. I've attempted to mask and even disable the service,
but somehow when i boot it always launches and the my system is
always waiting for a DHCP response from eth0. (Pointless being this
is a laptop) This happened out of nowhere after my interfaces
'randomly' reverted back to the old wlan0, eth0 naming
format.
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1923[14:46:46] <ForceRecon> yeah I have used google hangouts now
I believe it is called from google voice.. I guess that is what I
have to do
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1927[14:48:09] <ForceRecon> number28, a couple minutes.. wow..
that blows..
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1930[14:49:31] <number28> ForceRecon, There is roughly 4 minutes
of hang time due to this service.
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1938[14:51:10] <number28> Anyone know a solution to this problem?
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1939[14:52:33] <ForceRecon> have you read this -
replaced-url
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1940[14:52:36] <ForceRecon> if it applies
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1945[14:57:45] <ne2k> what with all the sysvinit vs systemd
changes that have happened of late while I've been asleep, what
is the recommended way in stretch of running autossh at startup?
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1948[14:58:38] <AndreasLutro> systemd service file
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1953[15:00:50] <nulleip> systemctl enable ssh
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1958[15:01:50] <durg> is autossh different from normal ssh?
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1959[15:01:53] <metastable> Yes.
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1961[15:02:42] <ne2k> nulleip, does that include autossh? if so,
where is it configured?
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1962[15:03:00] <metastable> ne2k: It does not.
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1964[15:03:17] <metastable> ne2k: You'd most likely have to
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1967[15:04:28] <ne2k> metastable, oh boy. got a lot of learning
to do about systemd! can I make it run as an unprivileged user?
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1968[15:04:59] <metastable> ne2k: Writing systemd units is
actually a fairly simple affair. And yes.
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1969[15:05:19] <ne2k> or actually, is there any point, given that
I'm going to be running -R to forward a port back to ssh on
here?
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1970[15:05:28] <FinalX> but be careful, systemd does not fail on
putting a non-existing username, and it'll just run it as root.
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1971[15:05:34] <FinalX> (yes, it's messed up)
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1972[15:05:47] <tempate> Hello. I've recently upgraded to
Debian 9.2 and Firefox is not working properly. It does load
websites as duckduckgo.com or google.com but it fails when loading
youtube.com (Time out). I just got a fresh copy of firefox but
everything is the same. Any idea why and how should I fix it?
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1974[15:06:06] <metastable> tempate: Are you able to ping the
affected domain name?
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1975[15:06:13] <durg> can debian be used as a firmware for
managed switches with >= 48 ports?
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1976[15:06:25] <ne2k> durg, no
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1977[15:06:49] <metastable> durg: Depends entirely on the switch.
In most cases, no, as the firmware for the switch is written to work
with the custom ASICs usually found driving the switchports.
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1978[15:07:08] <tempate> metastable: yes, Chromium on the other
hand loads everything pretty quickly
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1979[15:07:17] <durg> ah, that's a pity.
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1981[15:07:53] <durg> i wasn't aware they use asics
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1984[15:08:33] <ne2k> durg, what did you think a switch was?
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1988[15:10:53] <durg> some kind of computer transporting my
network traffic to the appropriate MAC address
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1990[15:11:13] <tempate> metastable: any idea what's going
on?
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1992[15:11:26] <metastable> tempate: Not without a lot more data.
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1993[15:11:30] <durg> similiar to a router, just different
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2003[15:13:44] <tempate> metastable: what more data do you need
then?
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2008[15:16:47] <gftg> tempate: Have you tried with a fresh
firefox profile?
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2014[15:19:19] <ForceRecon> I use a vpn service from home.. each
time I reboot my pc I have to remember to run terminal and connect
to the vpn.. Is there any way I can automate the process in linux
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2017[15:19:26] <ForceRecon> based on reboot
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2022[15:19:43] <durg> tempate, have you been using this firefox
profile for some time? i remember that firefox slowed down a lot
after remembering many pages on one of my slower machines.
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2023[15:19:55] <ne2k> cd
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2024[15:19:57] <ne2k> lol
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2025[15:20:03] <durg> you can disable it in the options, though
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2028[15:20:21] <tempate> durg: yes I have
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2029[15:20:32] <tempate> gftg: no I haven't
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2030[15:20:50] <Droid2Debian> Swktch to chrpme or chromium
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2033[15:21:56] <b4d> Hi, I would like to add gw to ipv6 interface
without rebooting, or reloading ipv4 settings, how can I do that
from cli? I have added gw gateway_ipv6_address to the "iface
eth0 inet6 static" block in /etc/network/interfaces. Thanks
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2035[15:22:17] <durg> you could start firefox with firefox -p,
create a new profile and see if the problem goes away
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2036[15:22:21] <gftg> tempate: I would test with a fresh profile
(you can access the profile manager with 'firefox
--ProfileManager', then create a test profile)
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2042[15:24:14] <gftg> tempate: PS: firefox needs to be closed
when trying to open the profile manager (if it's open, the
command will only open a new window).
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2046[15:24:52] <ForceRecon> maybe a better question.. How do you
auto connect to a vpn.. When I edit network connections there is
nothing in my dropdown list for connect to vpn on start.. how do you
fill that field
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2048[15:25:16] <tempate> gftg: alright, thank you
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2050[15:26:00] <metastable> b4d: ip -6 route add default via
<v6gw_addr> src <local_if_v6_addr>
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2052[15:28:33] <ne2k> ForceRecon, disto? cli or gui?
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2054[15:29:19] <b4d> metastable: thanks
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2063[15:30:28] <ne2k> metastable, I think I may have conquered my
fear and written a working systemd unit! ok, well, I say written. I
pilfered it from an article online. ;-) but at least I knew what i
was looking for
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2066[15:30:56] <ForceRecon> ne2k, regarding what... to connect to
the vpn now I just run a command in terminal.. there is no gui for
it.. so it must be cli..
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2068[15:31:36] <metastable> ForceRecon: "a VPN" is
extremely vague. What kind of VPN?
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2072[15:32:16] <durg> if it is openvpn you can run it as a
systemd service
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2074[15:32:21] <Bert_2> Hi guys, can I allow-hotplug vlan
interfaces such as "eth0.20"?
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2076[15:32:34] <ForceRecon> I was just informed that this command
may work - expressvpn autoconnect true
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2077[15:32:34] <ForceRecon> Auto-connect is enabled.
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2078[15:32:46] <ForceRecon> so I might have just resolved it..
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2080[15:33:32] <durg> is expressvpn in the debian repo?
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2081[15:33:52] <ForceRecon> I don't think so. I just like
this company.. been using them awhile
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2082[15:33:59] <ForceRecon>
replaced-url
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2083[15:34:17] <metastable> Bert_2: I doubt it, given that VLANs
are a layer 2 concern, and allow-hotplug devices are brought up as
soon as udev detects the physical device.
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2084[15:34:29] <ForceRecon> I know there are free ways to do it,
but I know these guys are fast and reliable..
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2086[15:34:41] <metastable> Bert_2: What are you actually trying
to do?
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2087[15:34:52] <durg> ok, personally i do not like closed source
clients
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2088[15:35:02] <durg> if that is what it is
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2089[15:35:18] <ne2k> Bert_2, how would it know?
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2090[15:35:58] <metastable> durg: An open source client
wouldn't really change the trust model, here. There's no
assurance regarding what the third-party VPN provider does with your
traffic once it's across the tunnel.
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2098[15:39:30] <durg> metastable: you can check if the tunnel at
least keeps out third parties, or if there are backdoors and
security problems.
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2099[15:39:39] <Bert_2> metastable: I have a hotplug interface
and I want all associated vlans to come online when the interface is
hotplugged
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2100[15:39:42] <metastable> durg: So?
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2102[15:39:49] <Bert_2> ne2k: I'm asking myself the same
auestion
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2104[15:40:04] <metastable> durg: All of that is a pointless
undertaking if you're still forced to trust the othre end to
not do evil things, which is far simpler to do from that end.
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2106[15:40:41] <metastable> Bert_2: Set the physical interface to
'allow-hotplug', and then enter 'iface eth0 inet
manual' so that the interface itself comes up, but does
nothing.
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2107[15:41:07] <Bert_2> metastable: what does inet manual mean? I
only now static and dhcp
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2108[15:41:33] <metastable> Bert_2: manual means bring the device
up, but apply no configuration.
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2109[15:41:58] <metastable> Bert_2: Let me work up a sample
config for you, I've done this.
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2110[15:42:03] <Bert_2> metastable: I see, but we also want that
interface to have an IP when it is hotplugged
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2113[15:42:18] <Bert_2> metastable: cool, thx
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2114[15:42:47] <ne2k> I really do wish people would stop using
the term "VPN" to mean "encrypted proxy service"
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2115[15:43:08] <ne2k> VPN means a virtual private network. if you
are proxying out on to the internet, it's not a private
network, is it? it's the Internet
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2116[15:43:22] <ne2k> it's ferkin retarded
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2117[15:43:33] <durg> ne2k: that's actually a good point
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2120[15:44:56] <metastable> Bert_2:
replaced-url
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2122[15:45:38] <metastable> Strictly speaking, a VPN is a tunnel
(encrypted or not) that contains encapsulated traffic to be
deencapsulated at the other end. It's a virtual Ethernet cable.
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2125[15:46:16] <durg> metastable: i think trusting someone and
connecting to them with a safe client is different from trusting
them and connecting to them with an unsafe client, which may invite
other people to spy on your data as well.
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2127[15:46:37] <metastable> The 'private' part of
'VPN' means that you're tunneling LAN traffic
(typically using RFC 1918 private address spaces) over a WAN
connection.
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2128[15:46:46] <lilalinux> Is there a specific reason npm
isn't contained in nodejs in debian stretch?
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2129[15:47:05] <ForceRecon> which means exactly what it means,
virtually private ;)
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2133[15:47:49] <jolt> lilalinux: Yes. It moves too quickly. They
have official packages themselfs though
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2134[15:48:16] <lilalinux>
replaced-url
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2135[15:48:18] <ne2k> metastable, that's a VPN link or
tunnel. not a VPN. a VPN is a NETWORK. hence the name. made up of at
least two hosts with at least one link/tunnel between them
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2137[15:48:36] <jolt> lilalinux: Yes, nodesource is the one
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2138[15:48:45] <lilalinux> should I uninstall nodejs first?
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2139[15:48:48] <jolt> lilalinux:
replaced-url
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2140[15:48:58] <jolt> lilalinux: I have no idea. :/
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2141[15:49:01] <jolt> probably
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2142[15:49:03] <lilalinux> thank you
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2144[15:49:10] <jolt> lilalinux: np
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2145[15:49:19] <ForceRecon> I use a pc, here with a VPN to a
remote machine which is connected to another vpn and Tor for the
most part.. it means little to nothing other than the fact you
VIRTUALLY feel safer knowing you are not directly connected to the
internet like we used to do about what 15 years ago..
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2146[15:49:54] <ne2k> what you are getting with these services is
a VPN connection to a proxy, and a proxy service. which is fine if
you think that helps you (which in 9/10 cases, it probably
doesn't). but it's not "a VPN"
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2147[15:50:26] <ForceRecon> well then I guess they should all
change their names.. false advertising
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2148[15:50:28] <metastable> Are you establishing a connection to
a remote system via a tunnel? Yes? Then it's a VPN.
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2149[15:51:02] <metastable> ne2k: And you just totally
contradicted your own extremely hair-splitting definitions, btw.
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2150[15:51:19] <metastable> Anyway, this discussion has gone
off-topic.
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2151[15:51:58] <ne2k> metastable, I didn't. my point is
that, to call the service "a VPN" is misleading. the fact
that it uses a VPN connection as part of it does not change that
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2152[15:52:46] <ForceRecon> heres a picture of how it works -
replaced-url
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2153[15:52:54] <ne2k> calling the service "a VPN" makes
it sound as thought you have a virtual private network for your own
use. you do not. you merely have an encrypted tunnel to a proxy
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2154[15:53:20] <metastable> ForceRecon: That's literally how
-every- public VPN provider works. :P
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2156[15:54:34] <ne2k> I'm not saying it's of no use to
anyone. I'm just saying i dislike the misleading terminology.
it makes people think that that is what a VPN is, that that is all a
VPN is useful for. and makes people ask for help "with their
VPN", which is confusing
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2157[15:54:47] <durg> forcerecon, if you tor, tor probably is the
most anonymous part of the connection
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2158[15:54:51] <ForceRecon> yeah I am just feeding the fire at
this moment.. its actually a good topic but should be in
#debian-offtopic not here
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2159[15:55:01] <ne2k> I'm going to shut up now
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2160[15:55:04] <ne2k> I've said my piece
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2162[15:56:27] <ForceRecon> I used to do this -
freenodeok2gncmy.onion -
replaced-url
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2165[15:56:59] <styks1987> Is there a way to require http basic
auth at the server level instead of using apache or some other
system to handle the authorization?
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2167[15:57:21] <ForceRecon> setting it up twice was enough.. at
this time I should be an expert but still have to go over my notes
for implementing it and lots of times it won't reconnect which
is a real pain..
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2168[15:57:34] <jelly> styks1987: um, http basic auth is managed
at the http server level
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2169[15:57:56] <ForceRecon> jelly in the house!
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2170[15:58:10] <jelly> so if you're using apache as a http
server then you'll set it up in apache
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2173[15:58:52] <durg> maybe you just want a smaller server?
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2174[15:58:55] <styks1987> jelly: thanks, so to provide
authorization one level higher would require some other method?
Meaning before it even hits the http server
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2176[15:58:57] <durg> *http server
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2177[15:59:30] <SirLagz> styks1987: you could firewall things so
they don't get to the http server at all...
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2180[16:00:44] <ne2k> styks1987, you probably want to look at
nginx
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2181[16:00:48] <ne2k> reverse proxy
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2182[16:01:12] <ne2k> styks1987, are you talking about
authenticating unauthenticated webapps running on certain ports?
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2183[16:01:16] <ne2k> without fiddling with the webapps
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2185[16:01:33] <petn-randall> You could put haproxy in front of
apache and do the http basic auth there.
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2188[16:02:26] <styks1987> I want to secure a test server and
only allow access with a password. I could do it at the apache level
but before I update 50 config files, I wanted tosee if there was a
less tenuous way to block access
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2189[16:02:36] <styks1987> only allowing from certain ips and
users with passwords
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2192[16:02:45] <styks1987> petn-randall: I’ll look at
haproxy
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2194[16:03:15] <ne2k> styks1987, nginx is made for this kind of
thing. I haven't used haproxy but it might do the job too, no
idea
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2197[16:04:01] <elios> hi, i tried to install abiword and after i
start it up the screen is flickering like crazy.
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2199[16:04:55] <elios> can't remember that happening with
debian jessie.
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2207[16:07:02] <elios> i don't think it will be different if
i install libre-office.
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2208[16:07:50] <gpunk> it should
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2211[16:07:58] <gpunk> that flickering is with abiword only
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2212[16:08:01] <gpunk> happend to me
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2213[16:08:14] <elios> gpunk: well trolled but i have the same
result with scite.
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2215[16:08:26] <gpunk> trolled ?
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2216[16:08:30] <gpunk> you mean I troll ?
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2219[16:09:03] <elios> why should it be different with
libre-office?
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2221[16:09:13] <durg> i think the graphics card and the driver
you are using might be helpful
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2222[16:09:19] <gpunk> different peaces of software
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2226[16:09:58] <elios> i think it has something to do with gtk
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2227[16:10:15] <durg> maybe
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2229[16:10:31] <elios> and libre-office uses that too somehow
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2230[16:10:40] <elios> i think.
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2231[16:10:52] <durg> still, there must be a reason why some
users experience this problem and others don't
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2242[16:15:08] <gpunk> yes keep all thinking instead of acting ,
that the whole world problem
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2246[16:16:37] <durg> which graphics card and driver are you
using, elios? :-)
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2248[16:17:18] <elios> i have tried on system with open source
driver and another with free ones. same result
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2249[16:17:28] <elios> durg: radeon
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2251[16:17:47] <gpunk> open source are the free ones ...
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2252[16:17:51] <elios> no
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2253[16:17:54] <elios> they aren't
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2255[16:18:14] <elios> open-source=non-free
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2256[16:18:31] <gpunk> lol
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2260[16:19:35] <elios> gpunk:
replaced-url
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2262[16:19:45] <gpunk> get lost
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2263[16:20:03] <elios> you need firmware which isn't free
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2266[16:20:25] <metastable> ... uh...
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2268[16:20:55] <necrose99> for debian webdav , virtual directory
ie packages which is best , so far cant get lighthttp to point out
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2272[16:21:52] <necrose99> i have (deb 9 arm64 host) gentoo
chroot to were exposing binkgs , would be useful on arm64
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2273[16:22:09] <metastable> elios: The open source driver itself
IS free. The firmware isn't REQUIRED for it to function. You
usually don't get the performance without adding the non-free
component, though.
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2277[16:23:50] <zarzar> is it no longer possible to change the
jenkins home directory through the web interface?
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2278[16:23:50] <jelly> styks1987: you would have to use a http
reverse proxy (be it haproxy or nginx or a commerical WAF
solution...), which in itself is a http server. http basic auth is
part of the protocol.
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2282[16:25:50] <zarzar> wrong channel my bad
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2285[16:27:14] <durg> elios: and which card? what does lspci say?
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2286[16:27:33] <elios> metastable: yeah i know
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2289[16:28:10] <elios> metastable: i have tried on both
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2290[16:29:03] <ne2k> metastable, I've decided I actually
want two autossh sessions running at once. I've created a unit
in /lib/systemd that has an environmentfile with the actual details
in it (currently /etc/default/autossh). what would be the cleanest
way to extend this to multiple sessions?
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2291[16:29:06] <elios> durg: it's a radeon (amd)
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2295[16:31:26] <ne2k> metastable, I'm thinking I want to
make /etc/autossh.d/, put my connections in there and then write the
unit file to handle them
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2298[16:33:20] <elios> there any QT based word processor?
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2307[16:36:33] <Unicorn437> hello there, me again, my debian is
booting into black, recovery works, I believe its the graphics
drivers, is there an easy way to test that?
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2309[16:37:06] <hexhaxtron> I got a very powerful computer and
graphics card. Can I play all the latest Windows games on Debian?
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2310[16:37:13] <durg> there seems to be tea, but i never tried it
@elios
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2311[16:37:15] <ne2k> hexhaxtron, no
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2312[16:37:26] <Unicorn437> @hexhaxtron not all windows games are
debian compatible
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2313[16:37:42] <hexhaxtron> ne2k: not even with kvm or other
hypervisor?
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2314[16:38:00] <durg> i'd also try the VESA driver and see
if the problem goes away
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2316[16:38:18] <ne2k> hexhaxtron, that's not playing it on
debian, that's playing it on windows in a VM
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2319[16:38:50] <ne2k> hexhaxtron, if you can do GPU passthrough,
you might have luck. otherwise, I would expect the performance to
suck massively
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2324[16:39:26] <gpunk> there are plenty of tripleA games on steam
for example
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2325[16:39:34] <gpunk> for linux
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2328[16:39:53] <durg> yes, they have quite nice linux support for
gamers
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2329[16:39:59] <gpunk> :)
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2330[16:40:30] <elios> gpunk: that's a text editor, not a
word processor.
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2331[16:40:54] <gpunk> wps office you can try
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2332[16:40:57] <durg> however, i think you still have to use
their app, which digs deeply into the system at least in windows
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2335[16:41:27] <JustASlacker> some stuff works with wine, some
stuff has good linux support
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2337[16:41:32] <JustASlacker> mostly the answer is no
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2345[16:44:53] <elios> what's wps... maybe i should start
with latex?
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2351[16:45:57] <jelly> which tool to use to reindent python from
8 spaces to 4 spaces?
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2352[16:46:04] <durg> i think you can just try any application
using qt
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2354[16:47:15] <durg> @elios
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2356[16:47:59] <durg> in case you want to test if using qt solves
the problem
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2359[16:48:42] <JustASlacker> jelly: any editor?
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2360[16:48:53] <elios> i just need to write a letter ...
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2361[16:49:13] <necrose99> hexhaxtron Lutris is handy for games
on gentoo , likely on debian also , crosstie-wine 50 a year however
more stubborn games or apps they just work
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2364[16:49:48] <starsparrow> jelly: just use find/replace in any
text editor?
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2366[16:50:28] <starsparrow> or do you need a scriptable solution
to apply to many files?
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2373[16:51:05] <elios> who should i be mad at now, gtk or amd...
probably the latter.
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2375[16:51:29] <elios> but*
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2378[16:52:10] <durg> you can find out by using the VESA driver
instead of radeon, i think most cards should still support it
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2466[17:29:20] <larvallid> how do i verify an already-written
install DVD on windows?
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2489[17:36:29] <durg> !verify
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2490[17:36:43] <HeXiLeD> on windows
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2497[17:38:19] <annadane> i'm pretty sure gpg is on windows,
if not then one could use something like cygwin to emulate bash and
then use gpg, but in any case i never remember how to do validation
anyway
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2509[17:42:45] <durg> you check the signature of the (say)
SHA256SUM file with gpg and then check if the hashsums in the file
are the same as in the files you downloaded
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2511[17:43:19] <annadane> yes but that doesn't help without
giving specific commands
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2512[17:43:22] <durg> if it is ob a dvd, you can feed the block
device into sha256sum with dd
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2513[17:43:29] <annadane> people aren't going to know how to
do that just by describing it
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2514[17:43:34] <durg> yes, not sure how to do it on windows
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2515[17:43:56] <annadane> well, as i said, failing other
solutions you can just use cygwin
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2516[17:44:07] <annadane>
replaced-url
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2517[17:44:17] <annadane> larvallid, ^
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2519[17:45:02] <annadane> *now* the only question is how do you
get keys from the keyring, because that isn't obvious either
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2523[17:45:33] <annadane> if anyone has a better/clearer
explaination please do chime in
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2524[17:46:33] <annadane> larvallid, sorry, you're probably
not better off following that to the letter, because that's
ubuntu specific
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2526[17:46:54] <durg> depending on your security needs you could
just download the cd signing key mentioned on the debian homepage
from a public keyserver
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2527[17:46:55] <annadane> so i don't really have an answer
for you, i'm sure somebody does
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2529[17:47:48] <durg> i think gpg also tells you which key you
need if you do not have it (not sure how this works)
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2530[17:48:21] <teraflops> durg:
replaced-url
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2533[17:48:30] <annadane> this is something i ought to be able to
answer better. giving vague answers to simple questions is a very
bad habit
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2534[17:48:39] <annadane> there you go. stackexchange to the
rescue
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2536[17:50:01] <durg> well, vague sometimes also means more
human-readable
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2537[17:50:33] <teraflops> vague also means inaccurate
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2543[17:51:48] <larvallid> annadane, durg, teraflops, on debian,
i can use isosize to get the sector and bs of the disc, then use dd
to read exactly that number of sectors and bs, and pipe it to
sha256sum. how do i do that on windows?
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2544[17:51:50] <durg> not sure, would have to check it out in the
dictionary
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2547[17:52:21] <ne2k> larvallid, ask on a windows channel?
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2548[17:52:21] <teraflops> larvallid: the same if you have same
binaries there
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2556[17:55:26] <larvallid> ok.
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2557[17:55:43] <larvallid> teraflops, what do you mean by same
binaries?
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2562[17:58:37] <durg> maybe cygwin
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2592[18:02:23] <durg> apparently there also is sha256sum.exe for
windows
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2598[18:04:23] <ne2k> I don't think that's the problem
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2612[18:07:47] <ne2k>
replaced-url
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2617[18:09:45] <esaym153> what is this apt issue:
replaced-url
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2626[18:12:58] <mtn> esaym153, pretty straight forward. that
source does not have the sigs downloaded or are invalid
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2627[18:13:18] <mtn> esaym153, use another mirror?
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2629[18:13:34] <esaym153> mtn: figured, but don't understand
how. That is a popular mirror, and its been that way for several
days now
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2638[18:16:06] <`slikts> I have msmtp and msmtp-mta set up, how
can I get the mail command to work now?
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2640[18:16:18] <`slikts> I don't want to type out headers to
set subject, etc.
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2646[18:18:11] <`slikts> guess I need mailutils
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2648[18:18:23] <jelly> `slikts: if msmtp-mta is configured you
ought to be able to just echo test | mailx -s 'test
subject' recipient@example.org
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2650[18:18:43] <`slikts> oh
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2652[18:18:44] <jelly> `slikts: you probably already have
bsd-mailx
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2655[18:18:59] <`slikts> jelly: I don't
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2656[18:19:05] <`slikts> Installed: (none)
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2659[18:19:46] <jelly> grab that one, or whatever heirloom-mailx
is called now
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2662[18:20:02] <`slikts> well, the mailx command works
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2663[18:20:09] <`slikts> so I'm set, thanks
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2664[18:20:20] <`slikts> not sure why it's mailx and not
mail, though
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2666[18:20:41] <jelly> a package that provides one usually
provides the other as well
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2669[18:21:04] <jelly> different syntax for historical reasons
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2673[18:21:42] <jelly> dpkg -S $(readlink -f $(which mailx))
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2674[18:21:43] <dpkg> Dingos ate my $(readlink -f $(which
mailx))!
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2675[18:21:48] <jelly> nooo
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2680[18:22:59] <jhutchins_wk> AWS apparently does not have Debian
images, just Ubuntu, RH, SuSE, and their own flavor of Linux.
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2682[18:23:05] <`slikts> hmm actually mailutils get the mail
commands working for me
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2683[18:23:11] <`slikts> not msmtp-mta
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2684[18:23:17] <`slikts> *got
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2698[18:30:36] <ne2k> jhutchins_wk, Ubuntu probably won't
bite. it's fairly heavily Debian based
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2701[18:31:45] <ScottE> Sure there are jhutchins_wk - Click on
"AWS Marketplace" in the console and search for Debian.
They aren't on the main page, but they are there (and produced
by Debian)
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2716[18:38:29] <Fludixx> hi :D
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2723[18:39:43] <jhutchins_wk> ne2k: I've run it as a
desktop, don't think I'd choose it for a server.
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2724[18:39:58] <jhutchins_wk> ScottE: Ah, good to know.
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2732[18:43:37] <jhutchins_wk> ScottE: I don't see the link
but I just googled aws marketplace and found it.
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2735[18:44:29] <maxzor> hello, I boot on a desktop on sata2, I
have a HDD on sata1, it is recognised in bios, how do i get to mount
it in stretch?
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2736[18:44:29] <ne2k> jhutchins_wk, ubuntu? I've used it on
lots of servers. not because I've been thorough and tested
loads of stuff and found it was the best for my requirements, but
because $work standardized on it many years ago and there has been
no reason to change
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2739[18:45:07] <ScottE> Great jhutchins_wk glad you found them -
sorry, there was no link - I should have been a bit more clear when
I said "click on"... :-/
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2741[18:45:58] <ne2k> maxzor, lsblk should get you info about
block devices
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2743[18:46:18] <ne2k> maxzor, then use mount to mount it. and put
it in /etc/fstab if you want it mounted persistently
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2753[18:49:20] <ne2k> maxzor, blkid to get the UUID for fstab so
it works even if you move the drives around
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2769[18:58:21] <maxzor> ne2k, thank you I saved your sentences so
I can properly learn about mounting later, I am quite in a rush. My
ssd i boot with is sda, my hdd is sdb(1). To mount it temporarily :
"mount sdb1"?
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2777[18:59:45] <jhutchins_wk> maxzor: Seriously, have a quick
scan of the manpage.
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2778[18:59:47] <ne2k> maxzor, you need a mount point too. e.g.
/mnt/ or /media/blah or osmething. mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
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2780[19:00:07] <ne2k> maxzor, and you most likely need to do it
as root
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2785[19:01:00] <maxzor> jhutchins_wk, yep im missing some real
basics :/, thanks ne2k
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2794[19:04:32] <`slikts> I put this script in
/etc/network/if-up.d and chmod +x it, yet it doesn't work
replaced-url
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2796[19:04:51] <`slikts> I just want to get an email with the ip
address when eth0 comes up
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2799[19:05:52] <greycat> Then put a script in
/etc/dhcp/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/
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2800[19:06:06] <`slikts> why there?
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2801[19:06:12] <`slikts> and not in if-up.d
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2821[19:13:19] <`slikts> seems like a simple thing, but is
somehow difficult
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2850[19:22:52] <`slikts> guess I'll just give up, no idea
how to debug when things don't work
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2853[19:23:41] <greycat> `slikts:
replaced-url
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2854[19:23:41] <jhutchins_wk> `slikts: I used to do that with a
cron job that posted the address to an always-up server.
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2855[19:23:54] <greycat> Scroll down to "Here's an
example, from Debian 8"
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2856[19:24:05] <greycat> jhutchins_wk: you too!
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2865[19:27:24] <candidat1> hey greycat ! how are you ? do you
know how synergy works ? i can t make it work there is an error it
says can t connect to X server
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2867[19:28:12] <candidat1> No protocol specified
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2868[19:28:12] <candidat1> synergy: cannot connect to X server :0
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2869[19:28:35] <candidat1> both pc are under linux one with
ubuntu the other with debian
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2874[19:30:12] <candidat1> does anybody knows a good program to
make 2 pc work with 1 mouse and keyboard ?
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2875[19:30:26] <greycat> x2x
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2876[19:30:27] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: You do not appear to have
Debian 8 on there.
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2878[19:31:20] <candidat1> thanks i will do that greycat :)
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2879[19:31:22] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: There's also the new
interface naming scheme.
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2880[19:31:33] <greycat> jhutchins_wk: why the fuck would that
matter?
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2883[19:32:15] <greycat> I'm sure the interface name is
provided in yet another env var, if you care about it for some
reason.
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2885[19:32:24] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: "Linux calls all
ethernet interfaces eth..."
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2886[19:32:49] <greycat> oh, you're reading some other
section of the page. sure, that's probably out of date.
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2896[19:36:16] <`slikts> greycat: how do I check if that script
is even executing?
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2897[19:36:29] <greycat> by having it write something somewhere
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2898[19:36:56] <`slikts> tried that, so I guess it's not
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2904[19:40:03] <hipodilski> hi i'm experiencing very odd
problem, sometimes my connection to some ports appears like filtered
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2905[19:40:24] <hipodilski> i'm running debian 9,i mean
connections to remote host to ports like 22 or 21
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2906[19:40:49] <hipodilski> the strange thing is that iptables
rules are empty on the machine from which I'm connecting
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2908[19:41:08] <jelly> hipodilski: is it a physical machine, VM,
container?
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2909[19:41:31] <hipodilski> jelly: physical machine
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2910[19:41:43] <hipodilski> i have two thinkpad notebooks both
with debian and the problem happens on both
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2911[19:41:55] <hipodilski> i don't think it is a network
related issue
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2915[19:42:18] <hipodilski> and suddenly it works after some time
unable to connect to my remote ssh host
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2916[19:42:25] <jelly> hipodilski: and can you reproduce this
going from a physical machine to another machine in the same network
segment, with no router involved?
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2918[19:42:58] <`slikts> I have echo
"bla">/tmp/blabla in the dhclient-exit-hooks.d script,
and there's no /tmp/blabla
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2920[19:43:18] <`slikts> so what now?
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2921[19:43:25] <`slikts> how do you debug this junk not working
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2922[19:43:31] <jelly> `slikts: does the script have a #! first
line?
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2923[19:43:35] <`slikts> yes
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2924[19:43:45] <hipodilski> jelly: i don't think so
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2925[19:44:03] <hipodilski> could it be related to sysctl kernel
setting I've some custom ones here
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2926[19:44:12] <candidat1> x2x: display names are both :0 how do
you change x server name ?
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2929[19:44:56] <jhutchins_wk> hipodilski: Are we supposed to
guess what they might be?
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2931[19:45:16] <hipodilski> I'm going to share them
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2932[19:45:26] <jelly> hipodilski: does ping work between the
same source and destination when this happens?
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2934[19:46:26] <`slikts> so I guess maybe dhclient-exit-hooks.d
just don't work in raspbian
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2935[19:47:06] <hipodilski>
replaced-url
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2936[19:47:10] <jelly> hipodilski: if you can reproduce it on the
local network, make sure you're really reaching the right
destination -- when it happens, verify there's no ip address
conflict; that is, the mac address for destination in your "arp
-an" output should match the mac address of the destination
machine's network card
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2937[19:47:59] <hipodilski> jelly: the strange thing is for
example port 80 reaches fine, and same time port 22, 21 are not ok
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2939[19:48:03] <jelly> `slikts: can you reproduce this with an
actual debian userspace, not raspbian?
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2940[19:48:32] <jelly> hipodilski: okay. But verify ping and mac
addresses next time it happens.
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2941[19:48:32] <durg> i remember i had a similiar issue with
scripts in /etc/network/if-up.d, i had to add a line to
/etc/network/interfaces to make the script run before bringing eth0
up
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2942[19:49:07] <jelly> `slikts: if you have issues configuring
raspbian, the right place to ask is the #raspbian channel
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2950[19:50:56] <mary_jane> omg weeeeeeeeeeeeed
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2952[19:51:24] <jelly> oh key geeknerd
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2955[19:52:12] <hipodilski> jelly: I don't think mac
adresses will be problem, that's different pcs i have two
linuxes and one mac os x here and an iphone connected to the network
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2957[19:53:12] <jelly> hipodilski: are these all workstation
machines? Why the hell are you tampering with all that tcp/ip stuff?
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2960[19:54:11] <jelly> hipodilski: why do you need to turn your
laptops into routers?
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2961[19:54:13] <jelly> net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
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2962[19:54:53] <OS-31107> /msg NickServ REGISTER dest_mest1
emm860@gmail.com
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2964[19:55:00] <jelly> OS-31107: no.
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2966[19:55:33] <jelly> OS-31107: now do that without a space in
front of /msg
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2968[19:56:49] <OS-31107> lol it was a joke
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2974[19:59:12] <elios> alright if anyone interested i solved the
problem with compositioning.
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2976[19:59:17] <galex-713> Hi
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2977[19:59:31] <galex-713> Under Debian with KDE, what is
supposed to launch something such as ssh-agent/gpg-agent?
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2979[19:59:52] <hipodilski> jelly: it is an old configuration I
was using my notebook occasionally as router, but I don't think
this has something to do with the problem
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2980[20:00:09] <jelly> elios: now you have to explain the
solution and the problem!
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2982[20:00:35] <hipodilski> jelly: and i have another laptop
where the same problem occurs occasionally with fresh debian 9
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2983[20:00:52] <jelly> hipodilski: I think you'd better
prove it, by removing all the custom stuff, and rebooting, and
seeing if it happens again
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2984[20:01:01] <hipodilski> and to tell you the truth since one
of them was with wheezy, this issues never occured on the wheezy
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2985[20:01:30] <elios> jelly: i had a flickering window when
using abiword, which seems a gtk bug and can be rexolved with
installing a compositor.
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2986[20:01:43] <elios> s/rex/res
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2987[20:01:45] <jelly> oh, a workaround.
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2988[20:01:53] <hipodilski> jelly: yes I'll try that but
besides the ip_forward I don't think any of the other settings
can influence
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2989[20:01:55] <jelly> elios: what did you use, compton?
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2991[20:02:02] <elios> jelly: yeah :D
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2992[20:02:32] <jelly> hipodilski: I don't care what you
think at this point, there's lots of cargo-culting and stuff
useful for servers only in there
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2994[20:03:41] <jelly> best start with a clean slate
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2999[20:07:23] <jelly> hipodilski: prepare tcpdump on both ends
in advance, but especially on the destination; if all packets fail
to arrive at the destination, not just affected ports, that will
point to an ip conflict (but so will arp contents if you can
reproduce on local network)
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3000[20:07:55] <jelly> hipodilski: if only some packets fail to
arrive at the destination, that will require further study on the
source and network
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3001[20:08:24] <jelly> hipodilski: if all packets arrive at the
destination, that will point to problems at the destination system
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3004[20:09:37] <jelly> but some of the stuff you're changing
I haven't even heard of; and some are for very specific
situations
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3006[20:10:12] <jelly> and some change the behaviour of linux
networking _completely_, like ip_forward
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3007[20:10:27] <hipodilski> jelly: yes
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3012[20:13:13] <hipodilski> jelly: yes there is a point in that
actually the sysctl is from my old notebook which I did used for a
testbed for stuff in the past and did not use it for a long time ..
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3027[20:19:21] <jhutchins_wk> hipodilski: I think I would remove
any of the sysconfig stuff that you don't currently need just
for the sake of standardization, but I don't think there's
anything there that would cause what you're describing.
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3029[20:19:53] <jhutchins_wk> hipodilski: There are good reasons
some networks block ports like 21 and more rarely 22.
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3032[20:21:28] <hipodilski> jhutchins_wk: yes I'll do that
thx
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3049[20:32:11] <lroe> how do I disable autoconfig on for link
local ipv6 addresses?
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3050[20:32:28] <lroe> I tried echo 0 >
/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/autoconf
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3051[20:32:44] <lroe> but when i down/up an interface I still get
an auto link-local address
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3052[20:32:51] <Dagger> you don't. just leave the
link-locals alone
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3053[20:32:55] <Dagger> they're needed for some stuff to
work anyway
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3054[20:33:25] <lroe> Dagger, yes, I am assigning link-local
addresses
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3055[20:33:35] <lroe> I don't want the auto-configured
addresses
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3060[20:34:56] <metastable> lroe: Leave them alone.
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3062[20:35:14] <metastable> lroe: They're not hurting you or
affecting you in any way.
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3063[20:35:52] <lroe> you are wrong, it was a simple question.
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3065[20:36:05] <metastable> lroe: No, i'm not wrong. And
it's a simple answer.
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3066[20:37:29] <jhutchins_wk> hipodilski: Can you see anything in
the logs on the remote boxes that might suggest why they're
intermittent? Could it be load/too many connections from a DOS?
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3068[20:37:47] <lroe> guess I'll ask elsewhere
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3070[20:38:05] <metastable> lroe: Or you could share why you
think you need to do this. Up to you.
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3072[20:38:42] <lroe> I am setting up a lab and I want the host
portion of the link-local and the global to match
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3073[20:39:13] <metastable> Why?
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3076[20:39:30] <candidat1> how can i change the display number ?
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3077[20:39:34] <candidat1> to make x2x works
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3080[20:40:07] <lroe> why not
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3081[20:40:21] <candidat1> help
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3083[20:40:33] <metastable> lroe: ... Why?
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3084[20:40:40] <lroe> ... why not?
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3085[20:40:54] <metastable> lroe: So you have no actual reason
other than wanting to screw with things you don't understand.
Have fun with that.
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3088[20:41:04] <Dagger> lroe: because it's unnecessary
effort
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3089[20:41:13] <candidat1> how do i change the x display number
??
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3090[20:41:21] <Dagger> you're asking us how to disable the
automatic addresses. if you weren't trying to do this, then you
wouldn't need to do that
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3093[20:41:39] <Dagger> it's also extra config that you have
to do on every computer
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3095[20:42:04] <lroe> thanks for the pointers....
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3100[20:43:30] <jhutchins_wk> candidat1: Usually something like
:0
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3101[20:43:35] <rakor> Hey there. Can I somehow see what apt
installed or updated last (and when)? Is there a database or
something?
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3103[20:43:58] <jhutchins_wk> candidat1: You can set it when you
start X, and connect to the alternate display by specifying it.
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3107[20:44:10] <greycat> /var/log/dpkg.log
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3110[20:44:34] <rakor> thanks!
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3112[20:44:57] <jhutchins_wk> candidat1: If you're connected
via ssh, you'll usually have the local display at :0 and the
remote display on ssh at :10 (remote in this case being the machine
you ssh FROM).
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3113[20:44:59] <candidat1> jhutchins_wk, root 15257 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?
S 20:30 0:00 [kworker/0:0]
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3114[20:44:59] <candidat1> zark 15431 0.0 0.0 18452 1332 pts/0 R+
20:40 0:00 ps axu
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3117[20:45:47] <candidat1> jhutchins_wk, im using x2x to use 1
keyboard and 1 mouse with 2 computers
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3118[20:45:59] <candidat1> do you know any simple solution /
program ?
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3119[20:46:07] <candidat1> that would do the same job
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3122[20:46:38] <jhutchins_wk> candidat1: I am not familiar with
x2x, but the two lines you posted don't have anything to do
with display addresses.
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3124[20:46:58] <candidat1> jhutchins_wk, okey :)
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3125[20:47:08] <jhutchins_wk> candidat1: If you're trying to
access a full desktop remotely, you need something like vnc.
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3127[20:47:53] <candidat1> i want to access the 2 computer
desktops with a program like synergy
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3128[20:48:04] <jhutchins_wk> candidat1: I would expect the docs
for x2x would tell you how you need to manipulate the display.
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3132[20:48:43] <candidat1> jhutchins_wk, thanks i m reading it
now
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3134[20:49:13] <jhutchins_wk> candidat1:
replaced-url
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3135[20:49:55] <jhutchins_wk> candidat1: If you're not on
the same LAN, full desktop sharing is always going to be slow.
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3136[20:50:25] <jhutchins_wk> candidat1: An alternative is to
launch just the program you need over ssh X forwarding.
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3138[20:51:02] <candidat1> jhutchins_wk, it s on the same LAN, i
m lucky enought to have optic fiber 1000 mbits /s
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3141[20:51:06] <candidat1> :p
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3145[20:51:58] <jhutchins_wk> Gigabit is nice.
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3154[20:53:46] <candidat1> jhutchins_wk, here in france they are
testing 5g which is 25 gbits /s
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3158[20:54:44] <`slikts> too bad most of france still uses dsl
lol
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3168[20:57:00] <candidat1> /home/dubois$ ssh -Xc 192.168.1.22 x2x
-east -to :0.0
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3169[20:57:00] <candidat1> Unknown cipher type
'192.168.1.22'
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3175[20:58:11] <candidat1> yes too bad dsl is slow lol
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3177[20:59:18] <EF``> candidat1, try -XC
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3183[21:03:46] <candidat1> Warning: No xauth data; using fake
authentication data for X11 forwarding.
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3184[21:03:46] <candidat1> /usr/bin/xauth: file
/home/zark/.Xauthority does not exist
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3185[21:03:46] <candidat1> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyx2x -
error: can not open display localhost:10.0
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3188[21:06:05] <candidat1> i have a ubuntu and a debian box
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3190[21:06:15] <EF``>
replaced-url
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3217[21:18:29] <candidat1> EF``,putting : XAuthLocation
/opt/X11/bin/xauth in /etc/ssh/ssh_config gives me a readonly error
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3229[21:21:18] <EF``> candidat1, did you use sudo to open
/etc/ssh/ssh_config for writing?
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3230[21:21:27] <candidat1> no
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3237[21:22:16] <EF``> users do not usually have write access to
most files outside of their home. You need to be sudo [or root] to
modify
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3246[21:24:12] <candidat1> EF``, same error :)
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3253[21:26:42] <DALLAS4> opal calls people niggers no kline or
quiet: msev- SirLagz mww113 hele fauweh martinus__ chaology bazhang
Tristan-Speccy sbeyer inaki tobiasBora James_T brontosaurusrex
smidlers richvdh infinity_ kix NaPs xcm hagabaka l9 Igel TsukiRa
cyboman33 cataLyst7 jordanm M3mphiZ x10 mdroid konimex awal1
WoollySocks Cork jnes nikow Linlz jlacroix fearnothing corretico rsx
Digz Relicka crash_ xSmurf scoobertron Phibonacci_ Hooloovo0
deetwelve kale
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3254[21:26:42] <DALLAS4> : kchr boxrick stu_meat tsia ongolaBoy
hns mcintosh LeandroLuiz APexil SpeccyMan angular_mike___ xon00z
Zerant `slikts shingouz pron ruby_ sulvone Puckel_ zarzar JZTech101
NeilHanlon gonyere McLive Kitty RickXy astrofog x42 CtrlC mutante
srg___ SerajewelKS dTal jor sandroandrade benaiah Whiskey mdroid
metastable martinus__ Marlon cryptic ijmad stealthii Canucktux inaki
chipdalf_ miklcct_ nopf dsc_
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3255[21:26:42] <kukuru> : ffernand reu Ani- Whiskey l9 Fastolph
christel cnu- michaelni chaology Tsutsukakushi rednul Quantumcross
Zerant tensorpudding ToeSnacks TonyL pugfantus hycer gunix KernelJr
srg___ MrGeneral shadoxx civillian gby disi nrs_ gigetoo mgdelacroix
gatekeep lroe erre seyeongkim doogaille cryptodan_mobile
Eryn_1983_FL qman__ stoffepojken martinus__ kchr skney tugrik
lionheartActual pk64 Cyclohexane m712 APexil pppktz nadersith
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3256[21:26:42] <kukuru> : bezaban olivetree_ Esya Olufunmilayo
pseudonymous keith4 pcdummy Furai richardjohn rizzo mrm n0p_ Sue
glebihan_ thiras armin RUDE hessu sethkush_ ToBeCloud terr1
pseubodot j3x brian_ sweatsuit gusnan mistralol meminemy__ DoctorD90
deadk Hink komugi madonius PaulePanter r3m donofrio rotaticus romana
bazhang sistematico fnmueller somepoortech CyberJacob
cryptodan_mobile danwellby vaidy _aeris_ soulz pyllyukko necrose99
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3257[21:26:42] <kukuru> : evotopid AxForest Ad1Tech sweatsuit
yeats SupaYoshi_ lifeofguenter mww113 Andocromn cataLyst7 dsnow_
iCherry ineiros preaction passbel bipul nolsen bumbar banging
phorce1 volter blue Schmetterwurm jgoohu_ pmn Enrico_Menotti
t3eblinder1 thms jsdk zululee ThomasJ|d tonyoy MichaelSasser tomreyn
Ring0` Commander1024 lsyoyom mdroid Yaser_Amiri cyboman33 Ruebezahl
danwellby dak jordanm Saar Scuttle hassoon borsin ryouma DLange
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3258[21:26:42] <Guest89936> : musti tripkin nwe NeoBlaster
JobewanKenobi treegor installibre BeamWatcher ws2k3 tdn hayer trewas
zmachine gustavo_ adrenaline mukmuk chen Weeezy Pedr0 Kitty
danwellby F14W3D ScottE Mikail Spec Gransy- glebihan nac dsc_
timeless JyZyXEL Ralin3 Henry151 churnd sim590 rrva pseudonymous
creat DXR phormulate p0g enkrypt sayo- cataLyst7 DK2 skott at0m
tobiasBora Ltem ryan-c
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3260[21:26:42] <Guest89936> : bfit kingsley towo` AxForest
TimWolla jareth_ f0x kpease_ edi MichaelSasser thecoffemaker
timeless awal1 nebul8 MeltedLux klow brontosaurusrex Orphis Sabaku
NeoBlaster MobileMatt sptnx nezZario SWAT ioudas^working PIBER zamba
Noskcaj fatalerrors _MMx heinrich5991 cthuluh swordfischer Digz
SodaPhish dusares_ Sciuro fred`` HugsWontletgo NoxiousPluK F14W3D
Kobaz leochill CEnnis91 systo xon00z TriJetScud candidat1 peterS
c0ded
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3261[21:26:42] <shewo> : lmcloughlin nac Junaos digdug_ fleaz
sdx23 Schmetterwurm Nawab himuraken_ eki DJDan alreece45 jrtc27
dondelelcaro xon00z Henry151 Sue sztelke linuxthefish SM0TVI diqidoq
bazhang Kilo`byte coincoin169 ffernand armin XDS2010|AFK v4s-
mattgirv gusnan xcin zl33pyr candidat1 tomocha_ Marlon beaver
goberle klaas systo hele spacebison SporkWitch d-k treegor Saar J
scream a64 deetwelve SleePy
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3263[21:26:42] <zllhy> : nadersith gregf funnel deetwelve `ryban
simon6758 raidghost drale2k blackest_mamba gunix jhq skott AxForest
SirCmpwn jdiez himuraken_ ribasushi hassoon Kitty ggherdov raynold
futex MobileMatt Nomads kirkland e1z0 Jamboy xcin stu_meat cthuluh
Pwnna neskau bzed phenomcd chaology bobe SupaYoshi_ DLange Ad1Tech
dxrt notemerson jnes FinalX swaechter ketralnis luz1 skagerak
Arrowma yemel Letze_
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3264[21:26:43] <zllhy> opal tells people to commit suicide nor
kline or quiet: genpaku Sciuro supersoju volter baum iodev s7r
lukasdboer Acrisor dbristow Guest30004 NeilHanlon christel Ralin3
tabakhase typosaurus aliasnumber13 Namarrgon dsnow_ nathamanath dxrt
Nik05 tomreyn spacebison ilmaisin ArchDuke joel135 rolig Xyle rancyd
Jim[m] brwoods MyIgel ToBeCloud toozej Devastator enki kunwon1
tarzeau musalbas miklcct_ lmcloughlin gftg Warrigal bathax gatekeep
nadersi
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3265[21:26:43] <Guest89936> : Furai vreg Sir_Designer__ Zharf
disposable2 sc_ GNU\colossus lotherk vivid tugrik bove sistematico
television TuxShells grew simon6758 Willis EF`` thiras banging
llimeht High_Priest eir freakyy smlb karstensrage gareth_ botho
ckuehl jmyrv toresbe jimi1 kuchi qman__ kirkland elkmoose futex xcm
dudz nurupo yCrazyEdd dxrt Arsiesys kini nick123 synthmeat gregf
bapa phre4k makz
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3266[21:26:43] <Guest89936> : knx mavhq Amun_Ra gregf N3X15
ectospasm andai grim4593 Ximensi0ns kri dsc_ Epakai Aebian timeless
danwellby db` botho Randy skagerak rasb rozie yCrazyEdd Puckel_
phre4k doyle tabris mukmuk Bercik tobiasBora futex dudz paulgrmn
likcoras netrace zarzar TmvC hex2a _0bitcount pppktz erre hashworks
joze Cyclohexane Red_M greenbagels trewas MoDaX percY- Ellied Riku
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3267[21:26:43] <Guest89936> WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE
OR QUIET OPAL???: ben_roose dave4925 stmiller tadau awhitlock8
Orochimarufan Texou _0bitcount Typhon jannic verm1n Riku toorop
sulvone rolig stealthii ckuehl tripkin trewas spacework gluon
idmistir err404 pingveno relaxed sekjun9878 Cipher45 guios
BeamWatcher `Kevin CEnnis91 Shadowcrit peterandre rednul teclo-
spont4e milobit pokeguylow JasonO osx beardo plicease gnupyx cnu-
Pedr0 dsc_ el glebihan_ Poster mistralol
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3269[21:26:43] <geor> WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR
QUIET OPAL???: _aeris_ moss j08nY hikiko Piper-Off ribasushi DXR
{sd} p0g0 sukaeto sc_ martinus__ brontosaurusrex lukasdboer verm1n
_systemd_is_evil petan xingu pfote drot jssjr popnfresh nrs_
pseudonymous msantana shingouz Nik05 Comstock- avantgardist
Guest89936 dinoocch vuser kbelyea sloucher bazhang pawalls raSter^
bureado Ssquidly Hijiri annadane Mad_Hat M0nk3y egos bruce549 mdroid
Attoy ariador NeoBlaster tomocha_
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3270[21:26:43] <shewo> opal calls people niggers no kline or
quiet: nicdev Firztspawn sinduck hassoon jdiez msev- TimeTraveler
Guest60048 Hijiri NeoBlaster [Gunner] Swant situ` overlord_tm
levifig Doldge coco benjen kingsley sidmo sunkan bureado Stummi
m4rCsi lavenders qqx paradizelost dubwoc jaxson Yaser_Amiri thiras
Matthew_ spacework lotherk alkyl Skaag shahri pseubodot karstensrage
glebihan yepla SporkWitch pawalls seyeongkim Schmetterwurm heurist
phre4k Piper-Off altendky ziongat
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3271[21:26:43] <shewo> : PaulePanter royiv freanux grim4593 thms
brizz popnfresh apt jsdk darkalia marcoslater Sir_Designer__
XDS2010|AFK ben_roose sinduck planetmaker codebam_ vamiry Tr4sK
brolin_empey tyranny12 xSmurf ebarrett eki urzds sloucher mutante
shingouz digilink blackwell inaki chipdalf_ sveva65 awhitlock8 moss
hexa- CodeBlue1776 def_jam yCrazyEdd Attoy klaas berndj slack_
LucaTM Skaag Typhon p0rt evotopid peterbecich seyeongkim
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3272[21:26:43] <shewo> : drale2k DJDan format_c yen0p Bercik Ani-
skott luuh sasukeskapa marienz joze rizzo passbel l9 annadane
qoreQyaS cryptodan_mobile eldebrim1 nikow qzo fiQmob Namikaze
aindilis notemerson danwellby n4dir dym nux Sleepy63 stealthii
leochill thoros jhq MoDaX fauweh whiskey9 cbdev kingsley jhebden
Jim[m] SkIzZaTo popnfresh mortn jareth_ pawalls jdn_ grinsekatze
benaiah Stummi knx
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3273[21:26:43] <cipofi> : NeoBlaster futex Nomads Mad_Hat
olivetree_ bitgeek thiras her0 boxrick tacocat ^v evotopid diabel_
loeken Yugidude1 otih MyIgel jdiez braingain syamaoka JStoker tonyoy
GNU\colossus Levure peteski RickXy WizardGed shewo sweatsuit
Zauberfisch CodingWithClass Delf rxo richvdh himuraken_ zupzupper
Swant sandeepkr toruvinn Dev0n relaxed xcin le_pig Mathisen s7r
pseudonymous Anarchic Toris borsin soulz
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3275[21:26:43] <rrgjnxjf> : NoCode baum verm1n Atlas sptnx
Uberius Tsutsukakushi phar6oor aaro meti jadesoturi gnugr xSmurf
Delf tsglove Orbstheorem l9 srg___ sbeyer rxo Smuckerz Haxxa
jlacroix swaechter Poster spont4e klaas BaW Arrowmaster petemc rakor
samouy d-fence Keitaro paul3 infinity_ hele Walex phorce1 Rhuarc
spanglesontoast hexagoxel ledixus tomreyn SuperSeriousCat Sue yen0p
dreamer eir HauM1
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3276[21:26:43] <zllhy> : mort rockstar[x] lparmentier[m]
ketralnis bogus- codebam_ bvs KindOne Linlz CowboyNeal tccki
jlacroix alxd themill greycat chen kri Atlas pvoigt TonyL DieMoesch
edvb Delf thallada or4n spanglesontoast pmn SerajewelKS rkta
Janhouse CME leochill Comstock- kward abrotman BotaniCar ksft
verboese Mysterytrain neskau xar- sztelke dak skney lifeofguenter
CodeBlue1776 dysfigured at0m adi HauM1
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3277[21:26:43] <zllhy> opal calls people niggers no kline or
quiet: codingquark TsukiRa nO0b Canucktux cyphix pinnen
MonsterKiller avantgardist e1z0 ron-slc Xyle jh001 raSter^
sasukeskapa NeilHanlon FoolishOwl DXR nadersith duracrisis [Gunner]
Xjs|moonshine DoctorD90 TacoGS Delf frazr gatekeep j3x zmachine
bradjones gr4yscale phenomcd jhq drale2k peteski Gurty ThomasJ|d nux
wooden PhonicUK chen Dan_au brian_ petan diytto Ryushin
davidebeatrici RobertClarke bcd Dev
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3279[21:26:43] <p4tr|ck`o> : colo-work DoctorD90 Doldge pipeep
glebihan_ KernelJr bcd mumixam Guest60048 tugrik pk64 ArchDuke cnu-
dubwoc `slikts Hestben cendo be shalok James_T duckydan thiras
cipofi Whiskey Nik05 Matthew_ Cipher45 corretico Waggie riddle
Relicka spritian tiin57 p8m lparmentier[m] mns msev- qqx bathax xcm
chiluk admiral0 nauticalnexus plicease frankie thecliguy Vizva
bachler kuchi coincoin169
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3282[21:26:43] <p4tr|ck`o> opal threatens to mutilate people no
kline or quiet: nathamanath mpmc disi tacocat jmsx orb ryouma
Cipher45 dxrt cataLyst7 SpeccyMan Ruebezahl p0g0 JZA fourletterword
Zyferus Savemech ausbeck fast shalok chiluk rlange Xanthor Hooloovo0
Johann jhutchins Zauberfisch Kamilion dka_ eri451 phorce1 webbyz
Dad` karlamrhein colo-work Loomaanaatii adrenaline Bonn333
XDS2010|AFK treegor freakyy sptnx Comstock- flokuehn DLange
peterandre BotaniCar p0g Amplificato
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3283[21:26:43] <p4tr|ck`o> : Warrigal Blanco jandrusk ilmaisin
amd_0x51 e0wl Ring0` ptx0 A|TARIS Alam_Squeeze pron tiwake Jguy
Aebian lankanmon turfrex Orbstheorem daemonkeeper EnergyCoffee
magyar lan_stuff lord_helmet fast polaris blueness Arieh InFerNo_
srg___ Ruebezahl Peterzen meLon zoolook alxy leibniz dooglus jim
pinnen Kitty el ChanServ ripdog conspacer sekjun9878 Zerant levifig
notemerson fatalerrors SaltySolomon fauweh jhill
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3284[21:26:43] <p4tr|ck`o> : johanbr iodev integral shtirlic
Keitaro avantgardist tccki vivid Gaxpaxxo tuv stealthii Gransy-
Guest32500 Piggy palinuro vreg Amplificator polaris Texou television
m712 ChanServ kix benpro rkta Catatronic Hijiri yeats orlandogr
ledixus BCMM Savemech _tremo hawken Eryn_1983_FL Cisien moufl
genpaku neoclust enki roniez thiras jmyrv Incepti0n Exagone313 meLon
hns delYsid eb0t Arieh
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3285[21:26:43] <manuel77n> opal threatens to mutilate people no
kline or quiet: abrotman naos62 RoBz tarzeau semeion nse seyeongkim
ioudas^working sulvone shadoxx in1t3r Ltem l9 dbristow AndreasLutro
typosaurus Digz benjen earthian komugi Waggie datasmurf_
CrypticSquared LambdaComplex Toris lafleurdubien ozzloy tobias1
devurandom dinoocch leerg319 zerocool cmam domovoy chen bureado
Jamboy GDiaX `ryban sirecote Pwnna notemerson SpeccyMan pixdamix
JyZyXEL magenbrot Ekho M3mphiZ aar
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3286[21:26:43] <kix> : K1rk mindstorm fourletterword ksft aerbax
krups alexlist evilbug webuser5224 Vizva oberling blackest_mamba
XeonSquared quasi bradjones bhuvi___ thms ebarrett rockstar[x] musti
christel tensorpudding yeats grinsekatze Mrloafbot_ roniez Typhon
altendky coolchris M3mphiZ Schmantinski Masaomi[m] remote timeless
Tr4sK Randy stealintv ghormoon gonyere SporkWitch davidebeatrici eir
ross` n0p_ Jim[m] Baudelaire Hooloovo0 devurandom TriJetScud
kirkland
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3289[21:26:44] <lgmzfbb> opal threatens to mutilate people no
kline or quiet: Raed hele metaphysician sphalerite mzf beaky Ticho_
fred`` rpifan dos1 NoxiousPluK Tulah pztrick thalos sulit Savemech
Peterzen xand mort `z nku Mmike bapa cyberzeus scapinelli_ gardar
pablo_ vook elysium sobkas MACscr hue sophiya brwoods rt sparty
TimeTraveler teej zwamkat kchr opi mukmuk SporkWitch mns teraflops
Shadowcrit lankanmon koollman olivetree_ damiano
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3290[21:26:45] <lgmzfbb> WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR
QUIET OPAL???: xcm danwellby amd_0x51 Piper-Off devurandom piklu
FiendKing04 uptime jrabe patsToms Gm4n xar- teraflops pingveno
SerajewelKS tacocat lsyoyom sandeepkr klaas phogg kini johanbr fstd
ToBeCloud georgeowell _0x5eb_ alreece45 ohithere CrypticSquared reu
petan Sabaku Nomads sveva65 Arsiesys Bert_2 cryptic Tristan-Speccy
thekingofbandit LaunchDirector aedinius ski7777 Lxrowe EnergyCoffee
Saar spacework hramrach d
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3291[21:26:45] <lgmzfbb> opal calls people niggers no kline or
quiet: cmichel gnupyx colo-work cyphix Aristar obiwahn churnd
lsyoyom stealthii jh001 Devastator Orochimarufan FoolishOwl
lifeofguenter darkstalker Infra_3600 peterrooney nickenchuggets
helldorado uxfi BotaniCar notemerson Hobbyboy bodeezl tobias1 croddy
mcintosh yokel skza satanist dmarr Snewp chachasmooth_ flyingkiwi
AciD` Waggie ForceRecon spritian _systemd_is_evil bcd Aix_ ross`
Arsiesys damiano Cisien baba_ Tom-_ Clo
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3292[21:26:45] <lgmzfbb> : ziongate msev- ThomasJ Kobaz
dijenerate MyIgel stefanc_diff staircrusher Tempesta Comstock-
Ugrastil Noskcaj bb36e slicepaperwords sistematico lankanmon
somnambler nast ross` {sd} jareth_ coolchris pipeep th0r bigpresh
Nazara drot msantana TacoGS sweatsuit bapa towo` scyte milobit h
WebDawg Messenger_bird tekk michaelni daemonkeeper Mmike parshimers
imMute __3r1c__ kuchi riddle SQL madmattco mf|cloud jmyrv
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3294[21:26:45] <lgmzfbb> : dixie7z_ paulgrmn SWAT quasisane
sergiotucano pepsipeacecorp Yaser_Amiri Ceber mortn colo-work
Arsiesys elios roger_rabbit thunderrd bogus- Orochimarufan fury_
digdilem hanasaki etp james41382 raynold TvL2386 Ralin3 digdug_
sbeyer thnee uxfi qqx thurin Rothgar` bpsecret kj4 candidat1 xsdg
bigpresh Bercik Rockj nicdev beuker petitor rdococ spacebison
chownsauce Olipro sloucher ski7777 ketralnis Rembo kuchi
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3295[21:26:45] <lgmzfbb> : miklcct_ wizzy_ schoppenhauer
Hooloovo0 lankanmon jmcnaught fred`` vutral Aix_ jonathaN
lparmentier[m] marcoslater eldebrim1 ryouma insidious datasmurf_
hashworks nagy LiENUS rkta BlackPanx DXR ongy nurupo quasisane musca
Spitfire sirecote HarveyPwca HaNN1BaL sayo- or4n jhutchins_wk
peterandre db` Rothgar` nicoulaj Guest60048 toozej Namidairo f0x
platicus2 nshp NickyP mcint dirac1 Louis chachasmooth_ Lxrowe
bpsecret
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3296[21:26:45] <lgmzfbb> opal calls people niggers no kline or
quiet: abracadaniel SleePy internat rysiek|pl Zorroness CapsAdmin
jordanm Graypup_ LaunchDirector mns FoolishOwl hns ozzloy television
altendky brimonk rt jssjr rkta N3X15 Vector3 metaphysician Zyferus
A|TARIS smlb lel s0lar1s CyberJacob dixie7z_ luuh Druid systo
PhantomDruid LiENUS reu ckuehl torrezno hanasaki r3m ledixus nac
Infra_3600 Sir_Designer__ bb36e cmichel matrix_architect typosaurus
mww113 daniel2 JohnDoh
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3297[21:26:45] <kix> : NeoBlaster ledeni TmvC bolovanos Benefit
sirecote th0r geordie Bryanstein navlys percY- Messenger_bird
seyeongkim _rubik yen0p brizz mundus olegfusion kmd LoRez afx237
MobileMatt Nefertiti kB` Gurty Ani- M3mphiZ marens distantorigin
pseubodot Ximensi0ns phormulate boxrick karlamrhein Peetz0r cateye
me1 kevy0 jhutchins_wk ChmEarl plicease crayon ski wjtaylor_
AFNobody Nitori johanbr ski7777 glebihan ijmad
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3298[21:26:45] <kix> WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR QUIET
OPAL???: klys Jamboy loeken gftg strass somepoortech Raed zack6849
msev- somnambler Exagone313 Eryn_1983_FL turfrex djz88 IdleGandalf
WoollySocks digdilem pztrick glebihan ultralow SerajewelKS
olegfusion Junaos Kel pfoo AndrewMC zymurgy JPT trewas christel rasb
Sir_Designer sndb tensorpudding High_Priest bradjones kmd Amun_Ra
Guest32500 thoros yonder Kitty komugi zmachine ohithere Benefit
Hestben FinalX mww113 _0x5eb_
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3302[21:26:47] <coco> WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR
QUIET OPAL???: heurist fred`` BbT0n phantomcircuit gehaxelt xcin
Warrigal astrofog idmistir elysium Eryn_1983_FL petan spacebug^
Haxxa CEnnis91 Strife1989 cyphix Cork brizz smidlers aaro Gransy-
sasukeskapa Quick_Wango verboese thunderrd zamba dusares_ bapa
blacksyke SporkWitch nadersith doyle d-k #debia probono spritian
michaelni HauM1 HugsWontletgo hexhaxtron awal1 le_pig solarnetone
freanux alprazolam Nawab Trel Dan_au lu
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3303[21:26:47] <coco> opal says niggers should leave usa no kline
or quiet: MeanEYE SporkWitch BlackPanx gratuxri Attoy holmgren meti
eki DJDan Levure F14W3D obiwahn TmvC flipp Cyclohexane p0g
SaltySolomon MrHyde tobiw mauro25987 edi BeamWatcher CtrlC L235 xiqy
spacedust drale2k rudi_s CodingWithClass d-k p0rt cluelessperson
tripkin crayon Cork Furai SupaYoshi_ necrogami Jonwel musti yuastnav
chaology vectr0n|cloud petemc Spitfire doogaille gvvg_ Tybor kunwon1
Strife1989
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3304[21:26:47] <coco> : mnuhmnuh MonsterKiller Malinux ThomasJ
kpease_ Arsiesys jhebden jareth_ Louis klaas acperkins SkIzZaTo
ski7777 Danielss89_ srg___ Randy Ishaq jmnk tabakhase bitgeek slack_
tensorpudding metastable annadane PaulePanter smlb m4rCsi michaelni
tonyoy p0g romana obiwahn maik yuastnav klow hobbyquaker Velgor tor
hassoon serban scoopex dynek joze Guest32500 Otyg blacksyke
marcoslater seyeongkim NaPs Tempesta
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3305[21:26:47] <coco> WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR
QUIET OPAL???: edwardly dave0x6d Poster SodaPhish gluon redrabbit
PIBER solarnetone gnupyx aerbax TmvC nomad_dw SolarAquarion apt
levifig cheapie NeoBlaster yen0p Alam_Squeeze oojacoboo Orphis
rymax99 soahccc Robby Weeezy necrose99 ggherdov musti neskau
thunderrd tarzeau apollojustice Groenleer Chinesium sn0wmonster
sulit clickjack hassoon eck snw sussudio tiwake swordfischer vOYtEC
hawken boxrick Sir_Designer__ nyuszika7h n
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3306[21:26:47] <coco> : sinduck pingveno shingouz civillian
Alam_Squeeze _MMx metastable soulz Strife1989 heinrich5991 yeats
daniel2 neskau Shadowcrit nux ShaRose shalok Guest76936 BlackPanx
nebul8 ThomasJ|d kh4i Vector3 SkIzZaTo deepy pfoo jareth_ Zerant
PaulePanter Epakai Ralin3 jrtc27 pinnen msantana ebarch orlandogr
klow thiras kInOzAwA Raed flokuehn TvL2386 Chinesium Gabemo
Kilo`byte esainane Willis int0x27h Atlas jmyrv
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3310[21:26:58] <chiluk> Fuck you coco
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3311[21:27:03] <NoxiousPluK> haha
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3312[21:27:03] <candidat1> all right :) i thought it would be
more easy. Do you think you could do something if i gave you a
temporary access ?
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3313[21:27:05] <candidat1> lol
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3314[21:27:06] <Mmike> chiluk, come on, dave :)
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3315[21:27:21] <LaunchDirector> fucking cocko
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3316[21:27:25] <himuraken_> GJ debhelper!
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3317[21:27:26] <ioudas^working> who has that kinda time
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3318[21:27:27] <candidat1> he is coco :)
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3320[21:27:30] <RoBz> byeeeeeee
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3322[21:27:31] <ioudas^working> i want that kinda time
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3323[21:27:33] <himuraken_> Blew my freakin screens up
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3324[21:27:36] <gftg> oh boy
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3325[21:27:40] <`slikts> nobs
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3326[21:27:43] <himuraken_> ioudas^working: no doubt
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3327[21:27:45] <redrabbit> what a dick
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3328[21:27:48] <NoxiousPluK> ioudas^working: they're bots
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3331[21:27:59] <greycat> Please stop commenting on the spam. You
are just creating a second wave of spam.
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3332[21:28:01] <NoxiousPluK> its not like it takes much time
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3333[21:28:03] <candidat1> sausages in a bucket :)
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3334[21:28:11] <NoxiousPluK> greycat: oh is it a taboo subject
now? :P
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3336[21:28:20] <metastable> It's offtopic.
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3337[21:28:24] <`slikts> greycat: you just indirectly commented
on it as well
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3339[21:28:39] <thecoffemaker> bots everywhere
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3340[21:28:47] <LaunchDirector> there could be antispam bots that
identify from the first message that a fuckload of people where
hilighted and ban them faster
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3341[21:28:50] <NoxiousPluK> ah yes I forgot this channel is
always on-topic :) ehh, I'll go back to idling
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3343[21:29:13] <nyuszika7h> LaunchDirector: Sigyn is supposed to
do that
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3345[21:29:17] <stealthii> I use Debian for servers and Raspberry
Pis mostly
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3347[21:29:20] <necrose99> just go +Z for all of fiv mins
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3348[21:29:25] <nyuszika7h> but all those messages were sent in
the same second
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3349[21:29:28] <`slikts> stealthii: don't you mean raspbian?
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3350[21:29:42] <sergiotucano> so ... Debian with lxQt is pretty
good
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3351[21:29:52] <stealthii> That's true, I guess it's a
different distribution
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