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6 [00:03:07] <hummingbee> i use xmodmap in a little script
that's run by Application Autostart in the Session and Startup
dialogue
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8 [00:03:31] <hummingbee> maybe you need it on the login page
too
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10 [00:03:57] <g0zzy> Ah ok. I'm just trying something a
little different in .xinitrc and shall see if it works
11 [00:04:27] <g0zzy> (Namely xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap)
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15 [00:07:35] <g0zzy> hummingbee: Gah - it didn't. I
don't get it. Have you found .xinitrc ignored?
16 [00:08:28] <hummingbee> i only mess with stuff like that if
using an openbox type
17 [00:08:40] <g0zzy> Right
18 [00:08:45] <hummingbee> for xfce, i just use the Settings
section of the menu
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20 [00:09:26] <g0zzy> Shall do likewise though i feel it's
a bit ;high level' ;)
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23 [00:13:16] <g0zzy> Ha. "Please note: if you are on Xfce,
it is noted on the official Xfce FAQ that you may have to create a
startup item instead of using ~/.xinitrc"
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30 [00:21:41] <Aebian> When I connect my Buster machine to an
strongswan ipsec vpn then no dns resolve will be done anymore. Any
idea what I need to do to use the dns-server (which is local) that
is written in /etc/network/interfaces
31 [00:21:56] <Aebian> ?
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41 [00:27:29] <jhutchins> Aebian: The vpn client needs to get
the DNS from the strongswan server. That or do split tunneling.
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47 [00:29:15] <Aebian> jhutchins: well I only want dns requests
servered locally, the outbound traffic should go over the strongswan
server. Do you have an example for split tunneling?
48 [00:30:13] <g0zzy> Thanks hummingbee
49 [00:30:16] <jhutchins> No, I use cisco.
50 [00:30:40] <jhutchins> Aebian: Can you ping local devices by
ip?
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55 [00:34:15] <Aebian> jhutchins: actually, no I can't when
the vpn is active
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62 [00:38:48] <g0zzy> "A start job is running for Log
Traffic" (at shutdown). This delays shutdown/reboot. Absolutely
nothing for that on Google. What gives?
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64 [00:39:19] <ratrace> g0zzy: you have to figure out
what's erroring out the service
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66 [00:40:56] <crestfallen> hi how do I establish sound on
buster with this scenario? :
replaced-url
67 [00:41:32] <crestfallen> firmware/drivers etc
68 [00:41:38] <g0zzy> But was is "Log Traffic"?
69 [00:41:47] <g0zzy> s/was/what
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72 [00:44:06] <ratrace> g0zzy: systemctl list-units | grep
"Log Traffic"
73 [00:44:33] <format_c> jhutchins: back up. partitions resized.
Well I fixed Linux booting up again. But now I'm afraid
I've to take care of the W1nd0w$ partition which apparently I
screwed up also :-/
74 [00:44:41] <g0zzy> Nothing
75 [00:45:07] <format_c> well just Toy-OS. nothin important.
76 [00:45:07] <ratrace> g0zzy: add --all to systemctl
77 [00:46:25] <g0zzy> Thanks. One of my old custom ones (blush).
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80 [00:48:28] <g0zzy> Don't know where the string "Log
Traffic" comes into it though
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82 [00:50:56] <ratrace> g0zzy: Description= of the service unit
file
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86 [00:56:36] <g0zzy> Ah OK. Thanks
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91 [01:00:55] <crestfallen> I'm looking in alsamixer.
Speaker is set at 00. Speaker+L is set at 100<>100. PCM is set
at 100<>99. any help?
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93 [01:02:11] <crestfallen> this is the output of $ lscpi -nn
replaced-url
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96 [01:02:41] <crestfallen> so the debian site for my cpu says
the audio works out of the box.
97 [01:03:00] <crestfallen> this is a fresh install, please help
me set up sound
98 [01:03:08] <crestfallen> on buster
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110 [01:09:57] <crestfallen> any help with above appreciated
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121 [01:22:15] <nvz> crestfallen: (uname -r;lsmod;aplay -l;aplay
-L;amixer)|nc termbin.com 9999
122 [01:23:03] <nvz> crestfallen: any info on any errors,
symptoms, or how you are expecting audio to play would help.. i.e.
if you are using hdmi or analog audio outputs..
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124 [01:24:09] <nvz> crestfallen: most often its mixer related..
wrong output selected or such
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126 [01:24:28] <nvz> especially true if the apps play but you
hear nothing
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128 [01:26:45] <nvz> cause virtually all other issues other than
being deaf or having the speakers off/unplugged or such, would cause
an error even trying to playback audio
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131 [01:28:04] <nvz> pulseaudio can be particularly tricky with
this as it mixes audio at a software level and can output on a
per-app basis to different outputs and have its own mixer controls
and such
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133 [01:29:13] <analogical>
replaced-url
134 [01:30:23] <crestfallen> nvz thanks kindly here is the output
replaced-url
135 [01:31:19] <nvz> well kernel drivers are loaded, alsa seems
to be defaulting to pulseaudio output..
136 [01:31:31] <crestfallen> It's just profoundly
complicated.
137 [01:31:35] <nvz> so I'd look into the pulse audio
settings.. make sure its outputting to the right thing
138 [01:31:49] <nvz> open something that plays audio like a web
browser and youtube or something..
139 [01:32:03] <crestfallen> how to do that? nvz
140 [01:32:04] <nvz> while thats playing back, check pavucontrol
(may need to be installed)
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142 [01:32:19] <crestfallen> pavucontrol I installed yesterday
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144 [01:32:43] <nvz> yes, that'll show you which output each
app is playing to, and indicator of sound going to it as well as
per-app volume
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148 [01:33:21] <crestfallen> ok it says Chromium Playback, and
the monitor is registering jerry garcia
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150 [01:33:35] <crestfallen> in pavucontrol
151 [01:33:48] <nvz> does it show the output on the right?
152 [01:34:00] <nvz> cause you do have more than one.. hdmi, and
analog
153 [01:34:43] <crestfallen> System Sounds is on Silence. there
is no way to activate the slider
154 [01:34:51] <crestfallen> output on the right?
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156 [01:35:28] <crestfallen> there is a monitor registering music
from the left and peaking, below Chrom Playback
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158 [01:35:53] <nvz> but doesn't show a pulldown on the
right of that indicator for the output?
159 [01:36:18] <nvz> mine currently isnt showing cause the
headphone, hdmi, and bt are all currently disconnected so my
internal speakers are only usable output
160 [01:36:39] <nvz> but if you had say an hdmi monitor hooked
up, that becomes another output for audio
161 [01:36:56] <nvz> and then it will show a drop-down for each
audio stream
162 [01:37:02] <nvz> to select which output to use
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168 [01:38:08] <aioalga> aea
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171 [01:38:17] <crestfallen> in pavucontrol, right? nvz
172 [01:38:20] <nvz> yes
173 [01:38:31] <nvz> on the playback tab
174 [01:38:37] <nvz> on the right by the mute/lock
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176 [01:38:59] <nvz> if you have more than one output hooked up,
it'll show a drop down for each audio stream to choose where to
send it
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178 [01:39:43] <nvz> you need to know which output you're
actually using or you can't really fool with alsamixer or
stuff.. cause you don't even know which card to select
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181 [01:40:20] <nvz> I have 4 on my machine.. two analog, one is
te laptops built-in speakers/mic one is its speaker/mic port, then
the mini displayport, and the bluetooth
182 [01:40:30] <nvz> currently 3 are disabled cause there is
nothing hooked to them
183 [01:40:31] <crestfallen> no, no pulldown menu near the lock.
I did get System Sounds to 100%
184 [01:41:33] <crestfallen> Chromium Playback has Front Left,
Front Right. those are set at 100. below that is a monitor
registering music. below that on right is Show: Applications
185 [01:41:35] <nvz> crestfallen: do you have any hdmi hooked to
the machine?
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188 [01:42:40] <nvz> master and pcm for the appropriate card are
the key .. and they need to not be muted
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190 [01:43:54] <nvz> crestfallen:
replaced-url
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192 [01:44:09] <nvz> notice the volumes say 100, but at the base
of the slider it says MM cause its muted
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194 [01:44:54] <crestfallen> very sorry nvz I got it to work. It
was a stupid error. thanks kindly!
195 [01:45:17] <nvz> it usually is.:P
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197 [01:46:24] <crestfallen> very sorry, have a great day.
198 [01:46:31] <nvz> no worries
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201 [01:47:40] <Atomic_0nXgo> hi
202 [01:48:08] <karlpinc> !ask
203 [01:48:08] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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208 [01:48:38] <Delta706> Is there a way to disable the network?
I tried ifdown and it did not seem to work
209 [01:49:24] <nvz> Delta706: there are numerous ways, sure..
but it all depends on how you have it setup.. most desktop systems
use network-manager
210 [01:49:25] <tds> Delta706: what command did you run exactly?
211 [01:49:34] <tds> and is this machine a desktop or not?
212 [01:50:02] <Delta706> desktop yes
213 [01:50:16] <nvz> one could stop network-manager altogether..
or I more often just click on my panel applet and uncheck the wifi
or networking
214 [01:51:05] <Delta706> I think I used ifquery and then tried
to apply ifdown to the results
215 [01:51:08] <nvz> Delta706:
replaced-url
216 [01:51:28] <nvz> thats the simplest way for a desktop user
217 [01:51:36] <nvz> can turn off wifi, or networking altogether
218 [01:51:39] <nvz> with a click
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222 [01:54:21] <Delta706> so I should install networkmanager?
223 [01:54:42] <nvz> you don't already have it?
224 [01:54:48] <nvz> are you using LXDE or something?
225 [01:54:57] <Delta706> xfce
226 [01:55:06] <nvz> that should have come with network manager
227 [01:55:22] <nvz> judd, why task-xfce-desktop network-manager
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230 [01:55:39] <Atomic_0nXgo> hi
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234 [01:56:10] <judd> Packages task-xfce-desktop and
network-manager in buster/amd64 are linked by 1 chains:
task-xfce-desktop â–¶ task-desktop â–· task-gnome-desktop â–¶ gnome-core
â–¶ gdm3 â–¶ gnome-session â–¶ gnome-shell â–· gnome-control-center â–·
network-manager-gnome â–¶ network-manager
235 [01:56:48] <Atomic_0nXgo> i'm use gnome
236 [01:56:56] <nvz> I'm sorry to hear that
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243 [02:01:38] <Delta706> I tried running nm-applet but nothing
seems to happen
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247 [02:04:24] <aHoo> where can i find
debian-10.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso ?
248 [02:04:27] <aHoo> err
249 [02:04:30] <aHoo> where can i find
debian-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso ?
250 [02:04:44] <aHoo> nobody seems to have it
251 [02:04:47] <aHoo> does it even exist?
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254 [02:05:10] <nvz> aHoo: because they havent finished with the
ISOs yet
255 [02:05:59] <nvz> unless there are really critical
vulnerabilities in apt or something like that, there is no reason
people need bleeding edge netinst media
256 [02:06:15] <nvz> it'll connect to the internet and
download all te latest stuff when installing anyhoew
257 [02:06:24] <aHoo> oh okay.
258 [02:06:26] <aHoo> thanks!
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262 [02:06:59] <nvz> the isos will probably be on there within
the next 24hrs or so
263 [02:07:55] <nvz> only need for new install media is if the
install media won't boot or is likely to prevent you from
securely obtaining the latest packages from the repos
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265 [02:08:36] <nvz> to my knowledge there is nothing wrong with
10.1 media that would compromise your system's ability to fetch
10.2 from the repos during a netinstall
266 [02:09:50] <nvz> we did have such an issue a while back..
where there was a flaw in apt where it could be exploited
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268 [02:10:17] <nvz> but if I recall correctly that was fixed in
10.1 and I don't know of any such issue since then
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273 [02:10:55] <nvz> and if I recall correctly said exploit was a
narrow use case anyhow
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280 [02:22:43] <Atomic_0nXgo> hi
281 [02:23:08] <nvz> Atomic_0nXgo: you've said that numerous
times already.. and yes, we're ignoring you
282 [02:23:28] <nvz> this isn't a channel for socializing..
people ask questions, people answer them..
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284 [02:24:06] <Atomic_0nXgo> ok thank you
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293 [02:33:10] <aioalga> hello every ganagnam style
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296 [02:34:06] <aioalga> what abbot hashcat enforce stegnographic
anti spying swordwish?
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488 [05:48:25] <martigan> So I added "supersede
domain-name-servers x.x.x.x;" to dhclient.conf in an attempt to
manually set my dns via network manager overwriting resolv.conf but
it would add a search line for host-name lookup
paste.debian.net/1116597/. I red in the network manager man page I
can add rc-manager=unmanaged to /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d to stop
network manager from touching resolv.conf and I can just set dns
manually without the host-name lookup line. Is there a
489 [05:48:26] <martigan> reason to not do this?
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492 [05:51:15] <martigan> Do I need the host-name lookup
'search' line? It seems like it would send unnecessary
requests to my local network.
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495 [06:00:29] <RoyK> the search line is only something you need
if you want to save some time looking up host "somehost"
in "somedomain.com" (that you usually own/administer)
496 [06:01:28] <RoyK> as in "ping somehost" instead of
"ping somehost.somedomain.com"
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501 [06:03:31] <martigan> Is there a way to stop network manager
from generating it? Or can I safely add rc-manager=unmanaged to
/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/ and then just set dns manually without
breaking anything?
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503 [06:03:46] <martigan> I don't think I have any use for
it.
504 [06:04:03] <martigan> Ty for your response also! =)
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518 [06:34:18] <carlino3> hello
519 [06:35:06] <martigan> Hi
520 [06:35:06] <carlino3> i just installed debian choosing the
LVM encryption option, selecting all the recommended options
521 [06:35:12] <carlino3> what exactly is encrypted and what is
not?
522 [06:36:05] <themill> normally only /boot it outside the luks
setup, with everything else inside an lvm in there
523 [06:36:59] <carlino3> how can i double check this correctly?
524 [06:37:11] <carlino3> to be sure that i'm not leaving
anything sensitive unencrypted
525 [06:38:25] <themill> the output of "findmnt" is
educative
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527 [06:40:55] <carlino3> themill: thanks, that's helpful
528 [06:41:20] <carlino3> but what tells me that some fs is
encrypted or not in that command output?
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537 [06:50:24] <led_belly> carlino: lsblk is a good place to
start
538 [06:50:44] <themill> or that
539 [06:50:54] <led_belly> look for 'crypt' in the
'Type' column
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541 [06:53:37] <carlino3> i guess it is correct ?
replaced-url
542 [06:53:46] <carlino3> root and swap are on the encrypted
volume
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544 [06:54:10] <RoyK> better use
replaced-url
545 [06:54:19] <carlino3> sorry
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586 [07:53:01] <Gerowen> When running dpkg-reconfigure
clamav-daemon , one question it asks is "Max File Size to
Scan", and the default value is 5M, however, the variable
"MaxFileSize" in /etc/clamav/clamd.conf is set to 25M, and
doesn't change after the reconfigure finishes.
587 [07:53:38] <Gerowen> I'm wondering if that variable is
referring to something else, or if I'm not understanding
something correctly here. What is the max file size clamav-daemon
will scan in this situation?
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600 [08:08:13] <themill> Gerowen: reading through the postinst,
they seem to be two different things (OnAccessMaxFileSize vs
MaxFileSize)
601 [08:09:05] <Gerowen> themill: Agreed, it appears that the
dialog that says "Max File Size to Scan" corresponds to
the MaxScriptSize variable.
602 [08:09:26] <Gerowen> I'm just rolling with the baked in
defaults, I'm just trying to understand what they all mean.
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607 [08:11:48] <CombatVet> quick question, when adding a user and
you specify a SKEL value for let's say config files, does the
system automatically set the permission for that new user?
608 [08:11:51] <CombatVet> like the appropriate permission for
those files for the new user?
609 [08:14:56] <carlino3> how can i install ecryptfs on debian
10?
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626 [08:47:43] <themill> Gerowen: even more max sizes to play
with... not sure that all the debconf stuff is adding much for the
user in that
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699 [10:02:16] <onetwothreeee> What is the best documented,
schematics, diagrams, etc. smartphone brand?
700 [10:02:59] <bolt> It's probably off topic :)
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704 [10:08:11] <klys> onetwothreeee, puri.sm
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707 [10:09:44] <onetwothreeee> klys: and low spec models? which
one would you recommend?
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712 [10:10:38] <klys> it seems there is a good overview of your
options at
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716 [10:15:55] <onetwothreeee> thhanks klys
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771 [11:05:27] <oxek> I used `systemctl disable xrdp` to disable
automatic startup of the xrdp service at boot. But the service still
starts after system restart.
772 [11:05:34] <oxek> What should I do?
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774 [11:06:59] <ratrace> oxek: mask it if you absolutely do not
want it to start
775 [11:07:21] <oxek> ratrace: I want to start it manually when I
need to, but not automatically on boot.
776 [11:08:01] <ratrace> oxek: then you'll have to find out
what is calling it up, and disable it there. enable/disable only
affects standalone service management, but it can still be brought
up by dependencies and other means
777 [11:09:09] <oxek> I thought systemd is the init system on
debian, what else can start services?
778 [11:09:24] <ratrace> other services and programs
779 [11:09:53] <oxek> I will go investigate now
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792 [11:16:01] <moldy> hi
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796 [11:18:02] <moldy> my compose key is working in some
applications, but not in others. i can't see a clear pattern,
and i am out of ideas. it's working in: firefox, thunderbird,
konqueror. not working in: konsole. i am running these under i3. any
idea how to debug / fix this?
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812 [11:33:04] <oxek> found it, there was also a
xrdp-sesman.service
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882 [12:30:36] <jelly> moldy: works just fine in my konsole on
kde, Compose < 3 results in the expected glyph
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891 [12:37:17] <moldy> jelly: i found out that if i set
QT_IMMODULE=xim, it works
892 [12:37:31] <moldy> jelly: weird that this is necessary for
some qt apps but not for others, though
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900 [12:42:24] <jelly> that's not set here, but maybe
it's set via some kde setting
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909 [12:49:06] <FreeBDSM> hello, ##debian. I've got a
question about OOM killer: I just learned about a way to set per
process exclusions for OOM killer (by writing '-17' to
/proc/${pid}/oom_adj). Let's call such processes
'oom-antikilled'. Now I've got a question about how
oom killer will handle the following case, where I have a tree of
processes: Parent>Child and Child is oom-antikilled. Will the
system kill Parent?
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918 [12:53:33] <g0zzy> Should i see keyboard mapping in the
console and in X as two distinct things? IOW, can/do the 'lower
level' mappings in the console get overridden by the ones in X?
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920 [12:54:45] * g0zzy has noted that custom mappings in X get nuked at
logout. IOW they don't work in the greeter one would use to log
back in
921 [12:54:52] <ratrace> FreeBDSM: not sure, I'd expect OOM
to only kill the child, and then the parent needs to handle SIGCHLD
somehow, but I'm not sure OOM won't touch the parents.
However, I wanted to point out thta oom_adj is not
"exclusion" of any kind, it's just a score for the
OOM heuristic
922 [12:55:00] <jelly> FreeBDSM: that's a great question for
a linux kernel channel!
923 [12:55:52] <Delta706> The network manager does not seem to
provide a way to restrict to just one dns server
924 [12:55:55] <ratrace> wait, I'm wrong, -17 is special
value that literally means OOM_DISABLE. carry on.....
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929 [13:05:00] <FreeBDSM> jelly: I asked there too, but still no
answer there
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934 [13:05:40] <jelly> FreeBDSM: where? I like #kernelnewbies on
OFTC
935 [13:06:17] <jelly> patience is advised on a Sunday, probably
936 [13:06:31] <FreeBDSM> jelly: on ##linux
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938 [13:07:26] <jelly> that's more of a general Linux (the
OS) channel
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968 [13:36:51] <Halp> i updated yesterday (i am on debian
testing) and now it doesnt recognize any input while in graphical
mode (it works when i boot into a console) and in neither case does
it connect to the internet. there are no errors in Xorg but in the
output printed by journalctl it states that some libinput process
got terminated by a SYS signal (?). Is there
969 [13:36:52] <Halp> any way to recover from that without
reinstalling ?
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973 [13:39:12] <annadane> !debian-next
974 [13:39:12] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
975 [13:39:15] <annadane> Halp, ^^
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984 [13:44:21] <Halp> oh sorry. im not sure how to join
debian-next
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986 [13:45:34] <Halp> ah i found it thanks!
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updated - it says possible missing firmware for amd vega 20, but i
don't have that i have an amd r5, and it works fine with
glxgears and steam and etc, i am running buster
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1053 [14:26:43] <foxdie99> Hello everyone
1054 [14:27:58] <foxdie99> Does anyone know of a nice piece of
software for reporting debian security news on the terminal?
Something like Gentoo's CLI news
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1059 [14:31:57] <foxdie99> Is there anybody there?
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1061 [14:32:43] <RoyK> !patience
1062 [14:32:43] <dpkg> The people here are volunteers, your
attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available.
1063 [14:33:38] <ratrace> foxdie99: debsecan?
1064 [14:33:40] <ratrace> !info debsecan
1065 [14:33:46] <dpkg> debsecan: (Debian Security Analyzer),
section admin, is optional. Version: 0.4.20 (sid), Packaged size: 32
kB, Installed size: 109 kB
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1067 [14:34:57] <ratrace> foxdie99: though personally I don't
see much value in it. Subscribe to DSAs and other sec vuln sources
and make sure you're up to date with packages, unless you also
want to patch them yourself, before maintainers.
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1075 [14:37:51] <sa-ghosts> hey guys, I'm using Debian 10
stable and didn't get the 10.2 update
1076 [14:38:14] <foxdie99> ratrace: Thank you for your response. I
work on the terminal everyday. I mostly use lynx for my daily
searches (No images or JS makes it easier for me). And I thought it
would be a nice addition to my Userland. But if nothing comes to
mind I guess I could write my own.
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1078 [14:39:56] <sa-ghosts> I'm connected to this repo
replaced-url
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1080 [14:40:51] <ratrace> foxdie99: it'd be futile though.
the information about (installed) package insecurities is given by
debsecan. Though the question is, what are you gonna do with that
info? Scary thing is, something is always vulnerable in one way or
another, I have yet to see secan return on vulns.
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1082 [14:41:26] <jelly> sa-ghosts: show the output of
"apt-cache policy base-files" in a pastebin entry, eg. on
replaced-url
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1086 [14:42:29] <jelly> sa-ghosts: and also "apt-cache
policy" as well.
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1093 [14:43:53] <sa-ghosts> @jelly,
replaced-url
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1097 [14:46:11] <jelly> sa-ghosts: it seems the mirror chosen for
you by deb.debian.org is not up to date. You can wait a day or two
more, or you can try configuring a mirror explicitely instead of
deb.debian.org
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1099 [14:46:36] <jelly> !which deb.debian.org
1100 [14:46:36] <dpkg> To work out which CDN you are using through
deb.debian.org: dig +short srv _http._tcp.deb.debian.org
1101 [14:47:25] <xcfvgbhkjk> hello guys i m new to this hexchat do
you guys have some tips for me
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1103 [14:48:10] <foxdie99> ratrace: I guess you make a very good
point. What good is information if you can not use it... The thing
is, two weeks ago I almost missed on some security problems with
Nginx and PHP. I have some services online which use these software
applications. I was able to promptly make the necessary
configuration changes on Nginx and updates on PHP, and that got me
thinking that I should have a daily info stack
1104 [14:48:16] <foxdie99> showing up on my terminal.
1105 [14:48:20] <sa-ghosts> I'll wait and see after 2 to 3
days, thank you jelly
1106 [14:48:46] <jelly> sa-ghosts: the output of that command
above might be useful.
1107 [14:49:29] <jelly> sa-ghosts: (but you need to install
dnsutils to get the dig command if you don't have it right now
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1113 [14:51:07] <sa-ghosts> thank you again jelly, it's a
fastly repo
1114 [14:52:37] <jelly> xcfvgbhkjk: hexchat is a window to a dozen
different chat networks using the IRC protocol. This network,
"freenode", is primarily oriented towards open source
software issues, and it has hundreds of chat channels for various
topics.
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1117 [14:53:34] <jelly> xcfvgbhkjk:
replaced-url
1118 [14:53:41] <foxdie99> ratrace: Thank you so much for showing
me debsecan . I just tried it and it seems to do what I was looking
for.
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1120 [14:54:19] <jelly> xcfvgbhkjk: if you "/join
#freenode", you can probably find someone live to ask about
using the network
1121 [14:54:33] <jelly> sa-ghosts: that's not saying much
sadly
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1123 [14:55:02] <sa-ghosts> jelly, 10 1 80
prod.debian.map.fastly.net.
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1130 [14:59:53] <jelly> sa-ghosts: and what does "dig +short
prod.debian.map.fastly.net." say for you?
1131 [15:00:43] <sa-ghosts> @jelly, 151.101.112.204
1132 [15:02:32] <RoyK> jelly: same results here
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1136 [15:04:53] <jelly> and that means nothing because it might be
anycast
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1139 [15:07:01] * jelly poked the mirrors channel anyway
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1186 [15:45:28] <deadrom> hi
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1188 [15:45:44] <deadrom> is there any usable voice recognition
for linux?
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1191 [15:48:22] <RoyK> deadrom:
replaced-url
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1193 [15:48:35] <RoyK> haven't tested any of them, though
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1200 [15:55:03] <MrFreeman> Hello guys, i can't seem to wrap
my head around how to make a bash script that will increase the
value of a a variable each time you run the script, i've found
a way how to toggle between two commands but how to make like a
ladder of commands that each time you do: ./myscript.sh it returns a
different value.
1201 [15:55:54] <wasamasa> you'll need to persist it
somewhere else
1202 [15:55:58] <wasamasa> like on disk
1203 [15:56:30] <deadrom> RoyK: boils down to "ton of
projects, and 99% are frontends, and 1% engines, oh, and one of the
two ongoing projects is modelled for japanese only but there is a
tiny project that wants to mod in english and there is the other
that hasn't seen a new release in 4 years". guess that
means "no" in short...
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1205 [15:57:01] <wasamasa> I suspect all the usable ones are
commercial
1206 [15:57:06] <wasamasa> like the android stuff
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1208 [15:57:16] <MrFreeman> wasamasa yes but what is the actual
commands, when i toggle between 2 command, my script touches a file
then runs a command, then next time it removes the files and runns a
different commands, but how to add the third command.
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1211 [16:00:05] <wasamasa> or use a database for structured data
1212 [16:00:09] <RoyK> MrFreeman: store the value of
'count' or whatever the variable is called in a file
1213 [16:00:10] <wasamasa> sqlite is popular for that
1214 [16:00:17] <RoyK> or perhaps in a db
1215 [16:00:28] <wasamasa> I'd suggest you to use a proper
programming language at that point though
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1217 [16:01:09] <RoyK> count=$( cat /var/lib/mycounter.txt )
1218 [16:01:20] <RoyK> count=$(( $count + 1 ))
1219 [16:01:34] <RoyK> echo $count > /var/lib/mycounter.txt
1220 [16:01:42] <RoyK> something like that
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1223 [16:02:25] <MrFreeman> RoyK thanks will try that.
1224 [16:02:39] <MrFreeman> btw here is what my simple toggle
script looks like:
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1225 [16:02:51] <MrFreeman> it works but only to switch between
two commands.
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1228 [16:04:59] <dvs> MrFreeman, so use what RoyK suggested and
use the case command.
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1231 [16:06:39] <MrFreeman> wow that's awesome, it works
perfectly, thank you guys!
1232 [16:06:52] <RoyK> :)
1233 [16:06:56] <MrFreeman> have a great Sunday!
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1235 [16:07:03] <dvs> bah! ;-)
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1238 [16:07:51] * RoyK is proud of his amazingly advanced bash knowledge
:D
1239 [16:07:59] <dvs> heh
1240 [16:08:05] <dvs> !prise RoyK
1241 [16:08:05] * dpkg forcibly removes RoyK from RoyK's keyboard
1242 [16:08:11] <dvs> ??
1243 [16:08:17] <dvs> !prize RoyK
1244 [16:08:17] * dpkg gives RoyK a yogi pin.
1245 [16:08:36] <RoyK> !surprise dvs
1246 [16:08:41] <RoyK> idiobot
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1284 [16:38:30] <nsa_> exit
1285 [16:38:41] <dvs> !exit
1286 [16:38:41] <dpkg> /quit you fool!
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1306 [16:53:13] <generic> is there a correct way to add users on
debian ? my $PATH variable is always wrong after I use su :(
1307 [16:53:32] <shtrb> su -
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1309 [16:53:32] <dvs> !buster su
1310 [16:53:33] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by
default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su
-l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at
all...). To use the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH
yes" in /etc/login.defs. See
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1317 [16:56:07] <generic> thanks shtrb
1318 [16:56:20] <shtrb> and dvs :)
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1321 [16:58:14] <generic> one more thing luakit doesn't do
much right out of the box .. maybe its because my system isn't
up to date yet but so far no success
1322 [16:58:45] <generic> luakit anyurl ->blank window /open
anyurl ->blank window too
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1415 [18:02:49] <generic> after running again after the update to
the latest kernel on vega I've seen a green screen when I
started X and had lots of graphics errors after that. gone back to
the old kernel. everything back to normal
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1417 [18:06:06] <generic> that sentence was a mess :)
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1432 [18:15:52] <Ankman> generic: i had this once doing an upgrade
on ubuntu for a neighbor. this version was not LTS so not meant to
be upgraded
1433 [18:16:19] <generic> its running on wayland it says
1434 [18:16:28] <generic> however wayland is not installed
1435 [18:17:22] <wxb> Hi. I looked at systemd-analyze blame and
noticed that some things have high numbers. What is 10.231s
tor@default.service ? Can I just disable it? How? Or 6.660s
bluetooth.service ? I don't even have a bluetooth card !
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1443 [18:25:09] <Ankman> i did once install wayland but
couldn't see benefits over x11. trying to uninstall it ended up
in a dependency hell, removing most of gnome. so i did not remove it
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1447 [18:25:55] <Ankman> wxb: have tor installed?
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1449 [18:26:35] <ratrace> Ankman: the benefits are mostly all
invisible, in better security and cleanness of code
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1451 [18:26:57] <wxb> Ankman, I just did a normal install and
didn't install anything tor related, so I don't get what
it's doing there!
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1455 [18:27:56] <generic> Ankman i didnt install it ... only
synaptic tells me I'm running wayland ...
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1458 [18:29:17] <Ankman> wxb: assuming you are on systemd, does
"systemctl status tor" saying "active"?
1459 [18:29:26] <Ankman> same for "bluetooth"
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1461 [18:29:54] <Ankman> you can then either deinstall it or
disabling it in case you want to use it at some later point
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1463 [18:30:26] <wxb> Ankman, both are active. How can I disable?
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1476 [18:34:07] <Ankman> systemctl disable tor
1477 [18:34:19] <Ankman> systemctl disable bluetooth
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1479 [18:34:37] <Ankman> they will no longer be launched on boot
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1481 [18:35:13] <Ankman> if you don't often boot you can also
stop them. replace "disable" with "stop"
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1485 [18:37:14] <OerHeks> systemctl mask <service> to be
sure no dependency can load the service
1486 [18:38:50] <wxb> Ankman, OerHeks Thanks. Disabled and masked.
Why would tor be in there though? I never installed it...
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1488 [18:39:30] <OerHeks> .. sure someone did.
1489 [18:39:31] <Ankman> wxb: may be to fulfill a dependency to
something "anonymous" related
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1493 [18:42:16] <wxb> Ankman, OerHeks Funny. Can't think of
anything. It's not default on Debian ?
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1499 [18:46:51] <Ankman> wxb: no idea. i installed this Debian in
2009 i think. back then it wasn't
1500 [18:47:01] <Ankman> woah, 10 years
1501 [18:47:03] <wxb> Ankman, 10 years!
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1503 [18:47:49] <Ankman> i moved the hard disk to two computers
after that
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1507 [18:50:00] <wxb> Ankman, Never been tempted to do a fresh
install?
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1509 [18:51:05] <Ankman> no, all works fine, besides a destroyed
partition table. none of the other 2 OSes boot, only linux can.
amazing
1510 [18:51:45] <Ankman> i don't dare to repair the partition
table since i fear linux wouldn't boot anymore
1511 [18:52:19] <sponix> Ankman: I do a fresh OS about every 6
months to a year
1512 [18:52:37] <wxb> sponix, Hmmm.
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1517 [18:55:43] <Emil> I'm thinking about getting a hardware
security key for software development. Right now I'm thinking
Yubikey 5 NFC or Solokeys NFC or assembling my own (say gnuk)
1518 [18:55:56] <Emil> also for general use
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1520 [18:56:02] <Emil> any thoughts?
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1532 [19:01:59] <Ankman> sponix: refresh means new install?
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1539 [19:04:56] <martigan> Hi! I'm trying to figure out how
to stop Network manager from adding the search line to resolv.conf.
paste.debian.net/1116597/ I can't seem to find whats creating
it in any of the networkmanager/conf.d or networkmanager.conf files.
Anyone here know how to set this?
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1541 [19:05:48] <Vondex> Is that the domain name you set during
install?
1542 [19:06:21] <martigan> in the paste?
1543 [19:06:50] <Vondex> yes. the search line. I thought it might
be the domain name. you set that after the hostname
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1546 [19:08:04] <sponix> Ankman: Yes ... I keep my data and /home
split off to different partitions and drives. And do a new OS
install at least yearly
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1549 [19:08:58] <alencar> Hello, there. How are you? Guys,
I'd like to know one think: I know it's possible to set
metrics for network interfaces, but is there any possibility of
making Debian disconnect from wifi when a ehternet cable is
connected to my laptop?
1550 [19:09:13] <martigan> no its not. its the hostname of the att
modem/router combo I'm connected to rn. Its always the name of
the dhcp server it would appear.
1551 [19:09:55] <martigan> I didn't set a domain name on
install.
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1553 [19:09:56] <Vondex> sorry. Just a wild guess on my part
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1555 [19:10:13] <martigan> I appreciate the effort. =P
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1558 [19:11:57] <martigan> I think it may be related to this line
"send host-name = gethostname();" in dhclient.conf
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1562 [19:12:08] <Vondex> martigan , i found a post that gives this
answer ... 0
1563 [19:12:08] <Vondex> If you are using dhcp, it's coming
from it you can change it from /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
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1572 [19:18:34] <martigan> I'm confused. what do you mean 0?
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1574 [19:18:55] <martigan> Can you share the post?
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1577 [19:22:24] <malmalmal> Hello, in debian's apache2 config
scheme, where do I add <Directory> directives, in
/etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
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1579 [19:24:06] <livebrain> 4
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1582 [19:27:04] <foxdie99> d
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1597 [19:34:15] <martigan> Vondex, can you share that post you
found?
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1618 [19:47:49] <B|ack0p> is there somebody who succeed to enable
system even sounds in xfce ?
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1623 [19:50:11] <brenlae> so i have an issue - i decided to
reinstall debian 10.2, that worked fine until x wouldn't launch
at start, then i decided to install debian 9.11 then upgrade to
10.2, but again x wouldn't start
1624 [19:50:16] <brenlae> i have an AMD A8 apu
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1629 [19:56:28] <towo`> brenlae, and you have installed
firmware-amd-graphics?
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1633 [19:58:05] <brenlae> towo`: i have just installed it on this
installation of debian 9.11, i didn't install before i
attempted to update the last installation of 9.11
1634 [19:58:17] <brenlae> towo`: should i try again?
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1636 [19:58:29] <brenlae> hardware acceleration is enabled
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1640 [19:58:46] <towo`> firmware-amd-graphics is nessesary for ati
graphics hardware
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1643 [19:59:13] <brenlae> towo`: i see
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1646 [20:00:35] <petan> hello, since Debian 10 `date` output time
in 12H format, how can I switch it back to 24H? I googled this but
results are not helping, mostly for ubuntu or CentOS where it's
clearly different
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1650 [20:01:15] <Tom-_> your website doesn't seem to be
working
1651 [20:01:30] <B|ack0p> petan: which desktop are you using?
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1657 [20:02:20] <Tom-_>
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1658 [20:02:49] <brenlae> towo`: thanks i'll try again
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1663 [20:03:48] <Maws> Any tips on what might cause "mouse
lag" in debian/gnome ? (using "testing"), but think
I'v seen this problem before also in stable, but can't
remember the "remedy" :)
1664 [20:04:10] <Maws> (usb cable mouse)
1665 [20:04:31] <petan> B|ack0p: no desktop, it's a server,
just ssh
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1667 [20:04:54] <un214> The systemd debates are back in the
mailing list
1668 [20:04:54] <B|ack0p> i see
1669 [20:04:56] <B|ack0p> hmm
1670 [20:05:01] <B|ack0p> no idea then
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1672 [20:05:06] <petan> anyway I forced it by hardcoding export
LC_ALL=C in /etc/bash.bashrc it's nasty hack, but it works
1673 [20:05:21] <B|ack0p> if it works it is good way :p
1674 [20:05:31] <petan> I believe there is a proper way somewhere
deep in debian wiki which I don't have time to google for...
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1681 [20:10:59] <karlpinc> petan: Probably the right way is
"dpkg-reconfigure locales".
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1684 [20:11:32] <petan> karlpinc: I did that, but it didn't
let me specify which locale I want deafult system wise
1685 [20:11:41] <petan> it only regenerated all sorts of locales
1686 [20:11:44] <FurretUber> Hello, for a deb package I'm
making, should I put Xorg configuration files on
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d?
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1691 [20:14:47] <karlpinc> petan: How about: dpkg-reconfigure
tzdata
1692 [20:15:14] <karlpinc> petan: I got that from "man -k
timezone" which lead me to "man tzselect" which said
how to do it.
1693 [20:15:59] <karlpinc> IMO the less is "don't
google, read the instructions instead".
1694 [20:16:09] <karlpinc> s/less/lesson/
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1696 [20:16:29] <whislock> petan: What's the question, here?
1697 [20:16:57] <n_1-c_k> FurretUber, it's probably discussed
in the maint-guide package, under /etc is preferred if the local
admin may change it.
1698 [20:17:06] <karlpinc> (Or edit the files directly, but
dpkg-reconfigure is the easy way.)
1699 [20:17:19] <karlpinc> whislock: 12 v.s. 24 hour time format.
1700 [20:17:34] <whislock> dpkg-reconfigure is actually not the
easy way.
1701 [20:17:53] <B|ack0p> my xfce version is 4.12
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1703 [20:17:58] <B|ack0p> can i update it to latest one?
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1705 [20:18:08] <karlpinc> !stable
1706 [20:18:08] <dpkg> [stable] The status of a Debian release
when no packages will be added or version-bumped, and changes will
only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed
in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is
Buster (10.x); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are
fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me
about <security backports>).
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1707 [20:18:49] <whislock> petan: The easiest way to set your
system to 24H time is to set the LC_TIME variable: localectl
set-locale LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8
1708 [20:18:50] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: So, no. Not unless you're
willing to compile it yourself, in which case you're
responsible for keeping up with security updates, etc.
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1710 [20:19:17] <karlpinc> whislock: Ok, but where is that set,
system-wide?
1711 [20:19:25] <whislock> That sets it system-wide.
1712 [20:19:37] <FurretUber> Well, considering the administrator
could find beneficial to customize the Option
"Calibration", I think I'm going to use
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, thank you
1713 [20:19:58] <karlpinc> whislock: Oops. Sorry. Mis-read your
explanation.
1714 [20:20:03] <B|ack0p> karlpinc: i see
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1718 [20:21:46] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: Debian stable goes for
stability and security, even when there are bugs. That way your
system keeps working and you can get work done.
1719 [20:22:12] <B|ack0p> karlpinc: so i should rely on the
releases what debian gives me
1720 [20:22:19] <karlpinc> (There are always bugs.)
1721 [20:22:26] <lupine> definitely
1722 [20:22:27] <B|ack0p> but i installed xfce later
1723 [20:22:34] <B|ack0p> not default in debian installation
1724 [20:22:42] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: Yes, unless you're
feeling like your techo-fu is especially strong.
1725 [20:22:49] <whislock> B|ack0p: It still pulls the packages
from Debian's stable repositories.
1726 [20:22:54] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: Shouldn't matter.
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1728 [20:23:05] <B|ack0p> ok got it
1729 [20:23:07] <B|ack0p> thx
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1731 [20:23:20] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: You might check the
"don't break debian" wiki page, and the
"debiansoftware" wiki page.
1732 [20:23:25] <B|ack0p> well i really want to use xfce but
having some issues..
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1735 [20:24:18] <annadane> the wiki may have its problems but it
does have a few nifty gems
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1737 [20:24:40] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: One of debian's strengths
is to be able to upgrade from one major release to the next. But
this is something that breaks when you install non-debian stuff, so
many people don't know how broken their system is until a major
release comes out and they try to upgrade.
1738 [20:25:06] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: Ask here and see if somebody
can solve your problems. Or maybe ask upstream with the xfce people
if that does not work.
1739 [20:25:17] <B|ack0p> karlpinc: but i sometimes install
packages by my own searches in google in forums etc
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1741 [20:25:35] <whislock> !frankendebian
1742 [20:25:35] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random
repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and
derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone
can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and
#debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about
<reinstall>
1743 [20:25:39] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: Of course you can do what you
want. Many people are happy with "wipe and re-install" to
upgrade their OS release.
1744 [20:25:47] <B|ack0p> sometimes i cant find in app store what
i want
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1746 [20:26:19] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: Ask here first. There's
the right way and the wrong way to install 3rd party software.
1747 [20:26:26] <annadane> i wonder what i'm going to do with
my winehq repo once bullseye hits
1748 [20:26:34] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: (Again, see the wiki pages
referenced above.)
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1750 [20:26:48] <B|ack0p> ok thx
1751 [20:27:11] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: Sometimes it's as simple
as choosing something that does the same thing that exists in
debian.
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1755 [20:27:56] <B|ack0p> sure
1756 [20:28:29] <annadane> i guess i'll have to uninstall
wine and all its deps and then do the bullseye upgrade?
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1758 [20:29:19] <karlpinc> The "secret sauce" of linux
is that you can get all your software from your distro, who is
responsible for making it work together. Otherwise you're your
own systems integrator and custom distro creator (like other OSs we
won't name) and eventually your system turns to muck and has to
be deleted and re-installed.
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1761 [20:30:16] <malmalmal> Hello, I can't seem to get
.htaccess to be read by apache in neither /var/replaced-url
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1763 [20:30:34] <malmalmal> I am asking here because Debian's
config seems to be non-standard as per apache default config
1764 [20:30:45] <karlpinc> (Not to mention being your own security
team.)
1765 [20:31:21] <annadane> would you recommend i just get wine
from backports instead? winehq is one of the repos people say is
generally ok
1766 [20:31:22] <karlpinc> malmalmal: You might try looking at the
apache logs, and at apache's readme.debian.
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1768 [20:31:25] <karlpinc> !readme.debian
1769 [20:31:26] <dpkg> README.Debian (or README.Debian.gz) is a
document found in the /usr/share/doc/$packagename/ which explains
any Debian specific details in the package's operation or
configuration.
1770 [20:31:28] <annadane> i just don't know what i'll
do when bullseye is stable
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1772 [20:32:01] <karlpinc> annadane: Is bullseye not going to have
wine?
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1774 [20:32:25] <annadane> no i just mean, i don't know what
i'm going to do with wine from the winehq repos when stable
becomes bullseye
1775 [20:32:54] <annadane> i don't know the upgrade path
1776 [20:33:06] <karlpinc> annadane: The release notes always say
to uninstall 3rd party stuff, then upgrade, then re-install.
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1779 [20:33:21] <karlpinc> annadane: You don't have to purge,
so the config files hang around.
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1781 [20:33:41] <annadane> yeah ok
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1783 [20:33:55] <karlpinc> annadane: Then it's a matter of
how the new software works with the old configs, or whether the
packages are smart enough to upgrade the configs, etc.
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1785 [20:34:10] <annadane> uninstall, comment out repos, upgrade,
re-enable repos changing 'buster' to 'bullseye'
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1787 [20:34:54] <karlpinc> annadane: Can't just comment out
the repos, you have to uninstall the packages. Otherwise they tend
to want stuff in the old debian release and keep that from being
removed and upgraded to the new debian release, and such like
problems.
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1789 [20:35:22] <annadane> yeah like i said, uninstall first
1790 [20:35:32] <annadane> uninstall + autoremove
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1792 [20:35:57] <karlpinc> annadane: It'll depend on
what's installed and what 3rd party repo. The postgres repos
"just work" and can be kept turned on and the packages
installed during a major debian upgrade.
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1794 [20:36:23] <annadane> meh
1795 [20:36:24] <karlpinc> annadane: But some of the postgres
people are also debian maintainers. Depends on the 3rd party.
1796 [20:36:24] <B|ack0p> !libcanberra
1797 [20:36:28] <B|ack0p> !canberra
1798 [20:36:29] <dpkg> canberra is, like, the best city in
Australia (also the capital). What other city in Australia lets you
buy fireworks, warehouses full of pr0n *and* turtles
1799 [20:36:33] <annadane> guess i should've just used wine
from backports
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1801 [20:37:14] <karlpinc> annadane: Maybe, maybe not. People will
know more when the release rolls around and you can worry about it
then.
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1803 [20:37:38] <B|ack0p> how can i install libcanberra package?
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1806 [20:37:55] <B|ack0p> libcanberra libcanberra-pulse
1807 [20:38:02] <annadane> ,v libcanberra
1808 [20:38:03] <judd> No package named 'libcanberra'
was found in amd64.
1809 [20:38:30] <annadane> well, libcanberra-pulse is there
1810 [20:38:39] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: I use "apt-file" to
find packages. There's other ways. apt-file says stretch has a
libcanberra-pulse package.
1811 [20:38:41] <karlpinc> !search
1812 [20:38:41] <dpkg> Please search for things rather than just
asking, e.g. «apt-cache search regex», or with
<aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that
own a file (installed, or candidate for install): «dpkg -S
/bin/foo», <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and
«/msg judd help file» (bot). <search dpkg> for
factoids. See
replaced-url
1813 [20:38:59] <annadane> and libcanberra0 apparently is the
other one
1814 [20:39:05] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: debtags is pretty awesome too.
1815 [20:39:12] <annadane> if you apt show libcanberra and then
press tab a few times you'll get a list
1816 [20:39:38] <rozie> hi. is it possible to install Debian
(Buster) in LXC container using given repo? I want to use specific
version of packages, snapshots.debian.org give this possibility
1817 [20:40:01] <B|ack0p> N: Unable to locate package libcanberra
1818 [20:40:01] <B|ack0p> E: No packages found
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1820 [20:40:17] <rozie> I managed to do it with debootstrap and
probably can do it with some manual work, but I wonder if it's
possible to do it directly
1821 [20:40:41] <karlpinc> rozie: If you're in an lxc
container you're running the host kernel, so you're not
really running a full release. Am I wrong?
1822 [20:40:51] <annadane> B|ack0p, like i said, in your terminal
type apt show libcanberra and press tab a few times. you'll get
a list of what's available. then you can apt show the
individual package to see its description
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1824 [20:40:57] <annadane> libcanberra-pulse is available
1825 [20:41:01] <rozie> true, but I don't care about kernel
1826 [20:41:07] <annadane> just take a look through the list
1827 [20:41:12] <rozie> and this is also true for debootstrap and
chroot
1828 [20:41:48] <karlpinc> rozie: True enough.
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1830 [20:42:50] <karlpinc> rozie: Anyway. If you don't get an
answer today then "business hours" (whatever that is) on a
weekday sees a lot of experienced people in here.
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1832 [20:43:20] <annadane> and some not so experienced people ;)
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1834 [20:44:40] <B|ack0p> annadane: thx
1835 [20:44:45] <B|ack0p> there are many packages
1836 [20:45:00] <annadane> 'apt show <package>'
gives you your description.
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1839 [20:47:18] <karlpinc> B|ack0p: FYI. It works like other tab
completion. If you get a hit with a single tab press and then keep
pressing tab you'll search for "everything available"
and that can get you a huge list.
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1842 [20:47:53] <B|ack0p> karlpinc: thx
1843 [20:47:55] <B|ack0p> annadane: thx
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1855 [20:58:05] <B|ack0p> hi.
1856 [20:58:15] <B|ack0p> i need help to enable system event
sounds in xfce
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1859 [20:59:26] <B|ack0p> i followed this instruction :
replaced-url
1860 [20:59:45] <B|ack0p> but when i want to change different
sound theme sounds not working
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1894 [21:20:18] <Guest79> Hello, I have a issue with a bluetooth
driver on Debian Buster, the error is : firmware: failed to load
brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e6.hcd (-2), can anybody helkp me with this?
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1900 [21:23:13] <Ankman> Guest79: have you installed the firmware
for it?
1901 [21:23:36] <Guest79> What firmware, I have search the web for
a firmware and I didn't fint one.
1902 [21:23:39] <Guest79> ?
1903 [21:24:09] <Guest79> I have installed firmware-linux and
firmware-linux-nonfree.
1904 [21:24:09] <wsky> the package you seem to need is called
firmware-brcm80211
1905 [21:24:23] <Guest79> let my try.
1906 [21:24:40] <wsky> use apt to install it
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1997 [22:31:24] <brenlae> just wanted to thank the person who
suggested installing firmware-amd-graphics in a fresh install of deb
10.2, a reboot and x started
1998 [22:31:27] <brenlae> thanks again :)
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2000 [22:32:34] <wsky> these damn firmware blobs
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2027 [22:41:15] <bepvte> anyone know why
replaced-url
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2071 [23:03:32] <debusr> I have HP elitebook 840 G5 laptop. And I
notice that my microphone doesn't produce sound when each time
I join online meeting such as google meets. But when local testing
speaker by `arecord -d 10 /tmp/test-mic.wav` and `aplay
/tmp/test-mic.wav` (replaced-url
2072 [23:03:40] <debusr> I can hear the sound produced by me.
2073 [23:03:50] <debusr> Anything else I need to check?
2074 [23:03:58] <debusr> Or how do I check dmesg or syslog?
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2077 [23:06:08] <diogenes_> debusr, do you have more that one mic?
2078 [23:06:39] <livebrain> do you have a headset or a mic plugged
to the computer ?
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2083 [23:09:07] <debusr> diogenes_ No I only use default setting.
I don't add any additional microphone or any equipment.
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2085 [23:09:50] <debusr> I have headset (but no microphone
version) plugged in to the computer.
2086 [23:10:09] <wsky> if it's a web based service you need
to allow your browser to access the microphone
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2089 [23:11:44] <debusr> in the permissions area in the browser
search bar each time i was sure it's allowed to access to
camera and microphone. But each time only camera is ok (other
participants can see me) but not microphone.
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2091 [23:11:55] <debusr> so I am wondering if any other thing I
should check .
2092 [23:12:08] <wsky> maybe try another browser
2093 [23:12:49] <debusr> wsky ah ok.
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2104 [23:15:44] <sadtaco> for grub boot loader, when doing an
upgrade I'm getting an error that it was previous installed to
a disk that no longer exists. Options to change it to are
/dev/nvme0n1 (3221MB; ???) or /dev/nvme0n1p1 (3220MB; /)
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2106 [23:15:58] <sadtaco> I assume partition 1, right?
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2177 [23:58:45] <gyuma1etyr> How to test if a WoL "magic
packet" is received on a debian computer?
2178 [23:58:56] <gyuma1etyr> with the computer on (not powered
off)
2179 [23:59:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1566
2180 [23:59:04] <gyuma1etyr> I'd like to see if it receives
the magic packet
2181 [23:59:22] <wsky> if it turns on it did recieve it
2182 [23:59:36] <gyuma1etyr> wsky, it does not :)
2183 [23:59:48] <gyuma1etyr> but it can be multiple reasons
(router blocking the packet, etc.)
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