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• 106[00:56:09] <simbalion`> Will Stretch use Binary logs or Text logs?
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• 113[00:57:19] <jmcnaught> simbalion`: it's not changing from jessie as far as I know. On my stretch system syslog is still there. By default Debian configure journald to be in memory (not persistent)
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• 195[01:17:09] <chimera> why no one types something?
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• 197[01:17:18] <jmcnaught> !ask
• 198[01:17:18] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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• 200[01:17:25] <cafuego> it's the weekend, we're not here
• 201[01:17:43] <helpless33333> should I install gnome extensions through repo or gnome-software-store
• 202[01:19:02] <jmcnaught> helpless33333: if it's available as a Debian package that's always my preference
• 203[01:19:17] <chimera> i want the transparent gnome-terminal back
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• 207[01:19:30] <jmcnaught> chimera: try terminator instead
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• 209[01:21:16] <helpless33333> How stable is sid?
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• 211[01:22:11] <jmcnaught> unstable as is changes all the time, it's a moving platform, especially immediately after a new stable release
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• 256[01:52:49] <cmhobbs> i've plugged an older external monitor into my netbook running jessie and at "higher" resolutions, it occasionally twitches for lack of a better word. could that be the refresh rate?
• 257[01:52:58] <cmhobbs> lxrandr doesn't give me but two options for the refresh rate
• 258[01:53:25] <cafuego> I'd blame the cable or the monitor
• 259[01:53:43] <cmhobbs> it looks much clearer at 1280x1024 but it has that twitch. at 1024x768 it looks ok but there's no twitch
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• 262[01:54:10] <cmhobbs> hm
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• 264[01:54:20] <cmhobbs> what's the best way to check the monitor then?
• 265[01:54:33] <cmhobbs> i don't have another cable
• 266[01:54:37] <cmhobbs> guess i could plug it into another machine
• 267[01:54:57] <cafuego> Well, if the you drop the refresh rate and that fixes it, it'll be the monitor
• 268[01:55:14] <cmhobbs> no, dropping the refresh rate doesn't do it
• 269[01:55:20] <cmhobbs> dropping the resolution fixes it
• 270[01:55:44] <cafuego> I don't know if it's still a thing, but back in the day you used to be able to add modelines to the X config to override what the monitor said it would do.
• 271[01:56:13] <cmhobbs> yeah, i recall that
• 272[01:56:15] <cmhobbs> hm
• 273[01:56:26] <cafuego> see if a quick google with procude any
• 274[01:56:30] <cafuego> produce, also
• 275[01:56:32] <cmhobbs> right
• 276[01:56:41] <cmhobbs> i was using lxrandr so i'm not sure where it's writing
• 277[01:56:48] <cmhobbs> probably setting things directly with xrandr
• 278[01:56:50] <cmhobbs> which i could try myself, too
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• 280[01:57:36] <cmhobbs> some of my googling kind of points to the vga cable
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• 291[02:00:46] <jaythelinuxguy_> I have a strange issue on my debian jessie file server, where when it's rebooted, networking doesn't start properly. No interface has an IP address. There are two interfaces configured. After boot, I have to run: systemctl restart networking to get an IP address on each interface. I have to run that command twice (once for each interface) for them to come up. /etc/network/interfaces is here: replaced-url
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• 295[02:01:15] <jaythelinuxguy_> It literally never gets an IP address on either interface at boot
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• 301[02:02:45] <jmcnaught> jaythelinuxguy_: what does it show in "journalctl -u networking -b"?
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• 305[02:03:49] <jaythelinuxguy_> jmcnaught replaced-url
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• 307[02:07:42] <cmhobbs> cafuego: i figured it out. xrandr was detecting a rate of 60.02 for this old monitor. setting it to 60.00 manually with xrandr fixed it
• 308[02:07:48] <cmhobbs> thanks for the response
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• 316[02:13:42] <jmcnaught> jaythelinuxguy_: hmmm… do you get more info if you add -x to the journalctl command?
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• 321[02:15:43] <jmcnaught> and there were no earlier lines? where is "systemd[1]: Starting Raise network interfaces..."?
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• 323[02:16:06] <jmcnaught> check to make sure the networking service is enabled with systemctl
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• 326[02:18:50] <jaythelinuxguy_> replaced-url
• 327[02:18:52] <jaythelinuxguy_> That's more info
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• 329[02:18:57] <jaythelinuxguy_> networking is enabled
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• 336[02:25:11] <micros> On Jessie, how can i get a network interface to remain down after bootup? eth0 is alwyas locked on DHCP. I tried setting it to manual in /etc/network/interfaces with no luck. I also tried a post-up script to perform ifconfig eth0 down which also did not work. ideally, I would like to set it down programatically so it would remain down for all future boot cycles, but generating a file which
• 337[02:25:11] <micros> is read at boot-time might also be OK. thoughts?
• 338[02:26:00] <jmcnaught> jaythelinuxguy_: do you need the "auto enp1s0f1" on line 10 of your interfaces file?
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• 340[02:27:12] <jmcnaught> jaythelinuxguy_: replaced-url
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• 343[02:28:58] <jmcnaught> what's missing in your logs compared to mine is after messages that say: "ifup[2177]: DHCPACK from 172.x.x.1" there's no "dhclient[597]: bound to 192.168.122.88 -- renewal in 1627 sec…"
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• 345[02:30:44] <jmcnaught> micros: does your interfaces file have a line like "auto eth0" or "allow-hotplug eth0"?
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• 347[02:31:13] <micros> not anymore
• 348[02:31:15] <micros> i removed both
• 349[02:31:19] <micros> still comes up. totally nuts
• 350[02:31:35] <micros> i also tried removing all eth0 items
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• 352[02:32:02] <micros> since i can generate /etc/network/interfaces programatically, i assumed there if(condition) dont generate auto eth0 and try setting it for eth0 manual. didnt help
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• 358[02:33:38] <jaythelinuxguy_> jmcnaught I'm not sure if that line is needed but I can try removing it
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• 363[02:34:21] <jmcnaught> micros: can you show your /etc/network/interfaces file?
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• 366[02:35:20] <jmcnaught> micros: is there anything else running that could be configuring the network, like NetworkManager, wicd, systemd-networkd?
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• 380[02:45:51] <micros> jmcnaught - im not sure. i dont use a window manager. ps -aux list looks reasonably clean.
• 381[02:46:50] <jmcnaught> micros: "systemctl | grep -i net"?
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• 383[02:47:03] <jmcnaught> also how about that interfaces file?
• 384[02:47:08] <micros> wpa_supplicant i assume would have no effect on eth0
• 385[02:47:26] <jmcnaught> logs could confirm this theory
• 386[02:47:36] <jaythelinuxguy_> jmcnaught no luck so far. I'm trying a few things, but for whatever reason my networking refuses to start properly every boot.
• 387[02:47:51] <micros> i have the list
• 388[02:48:24] <jmcnaught> jaythelinuxguy_: do you have some exotic file system layout that would cause firmwares or /sbin/brctl to be inaccessible until later in boot?
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• 390[02:49:40] <jaythelinuxguy_> jmcnaught, no. I am using lvm, but I only have / /home and /store mounted
• 391[02:50:37] <jmcnaught> what's /store? is that guix or something?
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• 393[02:51:27] <micros> jaythelinuxguy - i pm'd
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• 395[02:52:34] <jmcnaught> micros: this is a public support channel, please see the /topic about messaging people
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• 398[02:53:38] <jaythelinuxguy_> The /store partition is just where I put stuff, this is a file server
• 399[02:54:09] <jaythelinuxguy_> nfs mounts, samba directories, etc
• 400[02:54:20] <micros> jmc - no prob. i did it because the command you recommended had a several lines of output which i didnt want to paste in to the channel.
• 401[02:54:24] <micros> not exactly sure what to look for
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• 406[02:56:28] <jmcnaught> !paste
• 407[02:56:29] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
• 408[02:56:48] <jmcnaught> micros: ^^ you can use a paste site
• 409[02:56:48] <micros> replaced-url
• 410[02:56:50] <micros> thanks
• 411[02:58:06] <jmcnaught> jaythelinuxguy_: ahh… anyways have you tried looking at the full logs from a fresh boot (and not filtering on the networking service as we did above)? Maybe with more context you'll see something interfering
• 412[02:58:52] <micros> '/var/log/messages?
• 413[02:59:31] <jaythelinuxguy_> Something that seems interesting to me, is that it appears to be trying IPv6 for some reason, which I don't use on this server.
• 414[02:59:33] <jmcnaught> micros: cool, so at least networkmanager and networkd aren't running, you could also check for wicd just to be sure. can you make a paste of your interfaces file now?
• 415[03:00:04] <jaythelinuxguy_> It looks like the e1000e driver is looking for IPv6
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• 417[03:00:25] <jmcnaught> jaythelinuxguy_: what is the log line?
• 418[03:00:41] <jaythelinuxguy_> 35700 May 27 20:54:58 pluto kernel: [ 225.715279] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): enp1s0f1: link becomes ready
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• 420[03:01:38] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: that's just it informing you that the link is ready
• 421[03:02:37] <Dagger> (though you really ought to be using v6... but that's a separate issue)
• 422[03:03:02] <jaythelinuxguy_> My router uses IPv6 I believe, but this is a file server behind NAT
• 423[03:03:37] <Dagger> have you tried replacing "auto" with "allow-hotplug"? also I'm not sure that having a block for enp1s0f1 is a good idea when that interface is also a bridge port member
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• 425[03:04:28] <glick> hi
• 426[03:04:30] <jaythelinuxguy_> Dagger, yes, I have tried allow-hotplug. Interestingly, that was the solution the last time I had this problem. Since I am trying to implement br0 today, allow-hotplug seems to kill bridging
• 427[03:04:57] <glick> pardon, how come when i type a dd command i see a bunch of gobblety gook pass the terminal screen?
• 428[03:04:58] <jaythelinuxguy_> Basically, nothing works at all with allow-hotplug (now)
• 429[03:05:03] <glick> why doesnt it just do it silently
• 430[03:05:12] <glick> also, it seems to have copied more than the file size
• 431[03:05:44] <glick> im just trying to run this command
• 432[03:06:14] <glick> dd if=./debian-8.8.0-amd64-CD-1.iso if=/dev/sdb bs=8M;sync
• 433[03:06:40] <glick> and a bunch of gibberish passes by the screen
• 434[03:06:50] <micros> interfaces file: replaced-url
• 435[03:06:57] <ryouma> glick: where is your of?
• 436[03:07:02] <jmcnaught> glick: you could just do "cp debian-8.8.0-amd64-CD-1.iso /dev/sdb" by the way
• 437[03:07:03] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: hm... I do something funky that probably affects how things come up: replaced-url
• 438[03:07:16] <glick> ryouma: its an unmounted usb stick
• 439[03:07:28] <ryouma> glick: look again at your invocation. you have 2 ifs
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• 441[03:07:41] <jaythelinuxguy_> Dagger, that's a neat config
• 442[03:07:45] <glick> oh god am i retarted
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• 444[03:07:54] <glick> thanks ryouma
• 445[03:07:58] <ryouma> yw
• 446[03:08:11] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: I'm not sure how "allow-hotplug" interacts with using br0, since br0 won't be created until you bring the interface up
• 447[03:08:16] <glick> ryouma: did that corrupt the file you think?
• 448[03:08:19] <micros> wicd is not running
• 449[03:08:25] <ryouma> glick: maybe your terminal
• 450[03:08:30] <jaythelinuxguy_> Dagger, allow-hotplug doesn't seem to work with bridging in my case
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• 452[03:08:44] <glick> now its working
• 453[03:08:48] <glick> boy im an idiot lol
• 454[03:08:49] <jaythelinuxguy_> Interestingly, when I reboot, it hangs on a stop job for networking.service, for just over a minute
• 455[03:08:49] <jmcnaught> micros: and you don't want eth0 to be brought up on boot?
• 456[03:08:52] <jaythelinuxguy_> Not sure if that means anything
• 457[03:09:07] <glick> trying to set up fde in my system
• 458[03:09:12] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: my system also does that. still haven't figured out why
• 459[03:09:27] <Dagger> and since I rarely reboot it's not really high priority either
• 460[03:09:35] <micros> jmc - no
• 461[03:10:01] <jmcnaught> micros: so you do want eth0 up?
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• 463[03:10:21] <micros> i created a web tool for configuring wifi (from access point mode) to connect to client AP's. in some cases, one might want eth0 disabled, but yet it still comes up. <shrug>. normally, i would expect the challenge to be reversed.
• 464[03:10:40] <micros> which log shall i check at startup time?
• 465[03:10:45] <micros> var log messages?
• 466[03:11:01] <jaythelinuxguy_> Dagger, I'm not sure if you saw my earlier note, but what's most interesting is that when I boot, no IPs on any interface. If I restart networking, one of them gets an IP. If I restart networking a second time, the second interface gets an IP. This is required every boot.
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• 469[03:11:21] <jaythelinuxguy_> systemd has networking enabled
• 470[03:11:39] <jmcnaught> micros: yeah, or just run "journalctl" after it boots
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• 475[03:12:40] <jmcnaught> jaythelinuxguy_: FYI restarting the networking service is not recommended, it was deprecated several releases ago. Instead of restarting networking, we're supposed to use ifup and ifdown
• 476[03:12:40] <micros> no jounal files were found
• 477[03:12:44] <jmcnaught> micros: as root
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• 479[03:12:54] <micros> yep
• 480[03:12:56] <micros> that had more
• 481[03:13:08] <rfleming> Greetings
• 482[03:13:15] <rfleming> has remmina been pulled from stretch?
• 483[03:13:25] <jmcnaught> micros: that's all your logs for that boot, journalctl has lots of ways to filter, see "man journalctl"
• 484[03:13:28] <jaythelinuxguy_> ifup tells me the interface is already configured any time I try that
• 485[03:13:34] <rfleming> I installed it on another computer when I put on RC2, but this one with RC4 it isn't in the packages
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• 487[03:13:50] <rfleming> package list
• 488[03:13:56] <jmcnaught> jaythelinuxguy_: could it be a weird permissions issue in /var?
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• 490[03:14:06] <jaythelinuxguy_> Possibly. I'll check
• 491[03:14:36] <jmcnaught> jaythelinuxguy_: ifup says the interface is already up even when it's not?
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• 493[03:15:53] <micros> reading dump... strangly, i do get this: Failed to find module 'bcm2708_wdog'
• 494[03:15:54] <jmcnaught> rfleming: replaced-url
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• 496[03:16:21] <rfleming> yeah, how unfortunate for me :)
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• 498[03:16:31] <rfleming> I just found that
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• 500[03:17:29] <jaythelinuxguy_> jmcnaught - basically, the interface will have no IP. So I'll run ifup <interface> and it says it's already configured
• 501[03:17:30] <jmcnaught> vinagre's still there
• 502[03:17:32] <rfleming> I'm just trying to make heads and tails over the messages, since I've been using it in testing, but it says it hasn't entered testing
• 503[03:17:38] <micros> run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wwan0-up exited with return code 1
• 504[03:17:46] <micros> ifup: pre-up script failed.
• 505[03:17:55] <jmcnaught> rfleming: look in the news section
• 506[03:17:57] <rfleming> jmcnaught, I'm not a big fan of vinagre, I find it lacking. (I find remmina less lacking)
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• 508[03:18:40] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: I'd try `ifdown ifname; ifup ifname` (maybe with --force if it really doesn't want to listen to you), though I'm not sure that'd get you any closer to fixing the problem
• 509[03:18:46] <rfleming> Bug 863302... buggy, unsupported upstream
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• 511[03:18:59] <rfleming> I'll have to use the snap package remmina has available...
• 512[03:19:16] <rfleming> unless someone else knows a real nice RDP client.
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• 514[03:20:05] <micros> wonder why i get the wdog module error
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• 518[03:21:49] <jaythelinuxguy_> ifup/ifdown against interface #1 works, when it comes up it gets an IP and is happy. ifup br0 also works, it gets an IP and is happy
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• 523[03:24:36] <micros> in /etc/network/interfaces/if-pre-up.d/ should there be a runpart for ifenslave?
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• 526[03:25:57] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: maybe try commenting out the second two interfaces in /e/n/i and trying to get the first one to work alone (with auto or allow-hotplug)
• 527[03:26:09] <jmcnaught> micros: if you have the ifenslave package installed, then yes
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• 529[03:26:34] <micros> understood. could this be causing any challenges with eth0 bringup (or stay down) ?
• 530[03:26:49] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: and then add br0 (with auto or allow-hotplug) and see if that affects it (and the block for enp1s0f1 seems like it's a bad idea to me, given that the interface is part of the bridge)
• 531[03:27:14] <jmcnaught> micros: i've never used ifenslave but if you don't need it you could remove it
• 532[03:27:30] <jaythelinuxguy_> I commented out br0 and all related lines. On reboot, it didn't hang at stopping the service. The first interface still won't come up, though.
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• 534[03:28:06] <micros> whats upstart?
• 535[03:28:46] <jaythelinuxguy_> Now I am trying with br0 disabled, and with allow-hotplug
• 536[03:28:53] <jmcnaught> micros: it's an init system like sysvinit or systemd, but discontinued
• 537[03:29:36] <jaythelinuxguy_> With br0 disabled, and allow-hotplug on the first interface, it comes up great and that interface works perfect
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• 541[03:31:14] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: well. that's a start
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• 543[03:32:08] <micros> well no dice. i removed executable permission on a few pre-up and up scripts... still starts
• 544[03:32:11] <micros> getting nuts
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• 547[03:32:56] <jmcnaught> micros: read through your logs (the / key to search in less and whatever page journalctl uses) and figure out what brings eth0 up
• 548[03:34:07] <jaythelinuxguy_> I uncommented br0, now the first interface still gets an IP and comes up, but br0 doesnt
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• 550[03:34:43] <jmcnaught> is that with auto br0?
• 551[03:35:10] <Dagger> does `ifup br0` still claim the interface is already up?
• 552[03:35:19] <jaythelinuxguy_> One sec, I am rebooting the server again
• 553[03:35:45] <jaythelinuxguy_> But yes, it was with auto br0
• 554[03:37:14] <micros> nothing obvious
• 555[03:37:30] <jaythelinuxguy_> On a side-note, I find this strange. I've never known Debian to be this picky with networking before, and I've been using Debian since version 5 or earlier
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• 557[03:37:47] <micros> May 28 01:26:27 rm4-b827eb2a4031 kernel: [ 18.279857] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xCDE1
• 558[03:37:53] <micros> thats from var/log/messages
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• 560[03:38:00] <micros> so the link was already up at this point
• 561[03:38:28] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: systemd being systemd
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• 563[03:38:47] <jmcnaught> micros: the link being up is not the same as it being configured with an IP address, it just means a cable is plugged in
• 564[03:38:52] <jaythelinuxguy_> So ifup br0 says it's already configured. ifdown br0 then ifup br0 makes it come up
• 565[03:39:07] <jmcnaught> i don't think it's fair to blame it on systemd at this point
• 566[03:39:14] <Dagger> (although to be fair /e/n/i can't really handle interfaces that appear or disappear at runtime very well without some extra support)
• 567[03:40:26] <jaythelinuxguy_> I personally like systemd, but there's some stuff I miss in sysvinit. Personally, I'm not extremely partial to either
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• 569[03:40:54] <jaythelinuxguy_> trying allow-hotplug br0 for the hell of it
• 570[03:40:59] <jaythelinuxguy_> And I think I'll need a beer after this
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• 575[03:43:08] <jmcnaught> the difference is interfaces with "auto" are brought up by "ifup -a", interfaces with allow-hotplug are brought up when udev detects them
• 576[03:43:10] <jaythelinuxguy_> The difference with allow-hotplug br0 is I can do ifup br0 and it won't complain that it's already up
• 577[03:43:24] <jaythelinuxguy_> Thanks jmcnaught, I was wondering about that
• 578[03:43:34] <jmcnaught> (interfaces(5))
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• 581[03:44:25] <jaythelinuxguy_> I simplified my interfaces file to this: replaced-url
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• 584[03:45:50] <micros> jmc - the first journalctl log mentioning eth0 is one where the ethernet driver becomes registered, the next is mDNS group membership from avahi-daemon, then dhcpcd. nothing saying 'ifup' etc
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• 586[03:46:23] <jmcnaught> micros: try hitting <TAB> after you start typing someone's name, like autocomplete in bash ☺
• 587[03:46:34] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: I think if you used my renaming trick it'd work, because then the "allow-hotplug <bridgename>" bit would be "allow-hotplug enp1s0f1" and it would be triggered by enp1s0f1's appearance
• 588[03:46:36] <jmcnaught> micros: so if you do a fresh boot, what is the output of "ip a" ?
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• 590[03:46:47] <micros> jmcnaught - thanks for the hint
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• 594[03:46:52] <micros> standby
• 595[03:47:02] <jaythelinuxguy_> I suppose its worth a shot
• 596[03:48:09] <micros> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000
• 597[03:48:15] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: or maybe something retarded like this: replaced-url
• 598[03:48:17] <jmcnaught> i was actually planning on figuring out how to set up a bridge with systemd-networkd this weekend. so far i'm using it for simple DHCP on ethernet but i like it so far
• 599[03:48:20] <micros> ironically, i am ssh on the address on that interface.
• 600[03:48:30] <micros> (i have two other interfaces i can use if it were to actually remain down though)
• 601[03:48:46] <jmcnaught> micros: please show the complete output in a paste
• 602[03:49:12] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: I figure that with "auto br0", your bridge is coming up before enp1s0f1 exists, so that interface doesn't get added to the bridge. and I'm not sure if there's anything to handle adding bridge members after the bridge has been ifup'ed
• 603[03:50:06] <jmcnaught> Dagger: that's a good insight
• 604[03:50:35] <micros> replaced-url
• 605[03:50:45] <jaythelinuxguy_> Can you please post your interfaces file again? I can't seem to find it in the scrollback
• 606[03:50:50] <micros> compelte output of ip a or journalctl?
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• 608[03:51:22] <Dagger> replaced-url
• 609[03:51:24] <jmcnaught> micros: "ip a" thanks
• 610[03:51:47] <jmcnaught> micros: "journalctl | grep eth0"
• 611[03:51:51] <micros> replaced-url
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• 613[03:52:01] <micros> i put both
• 614[03:52:08] <micros> do you want the complete journalctl?
• 615[03:52:19] <jaythelinuxguy_> Right now I am going to try disabling networking altogether, and see if it comes up clean the first attempt after the server has already booted
• 616[03:52:26] <jmcnaught> oh i see sorry i missed what was below
• 617[03:52:27] <jaythelinuxguy_> I'll try the interfaces file next
• 618[03:52:37] <jaythelinuxguy_> I just want to see if it's a race condition
• 619[03:53:35] <micros> full journalctl - replaced-url
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• 621[03:54:19] <jmcnaught> micros: it looks like eth0 is getting configured by dhcpcd, do you have that installed? "apt-cache policy dhcpcd*"
• 622[03:54:31] <uxfi> hi good freinds
• 623[03:54:56] <jmcnaught> micros: i'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that while working on your wifi script you installed a bunch of network related packages?
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• 625[03:55:34] <spaceman> hello. i've been using debian for months now. i enjoy it mucho
• 626[03:56:04] <micros> yes
• 627[03:56:16] <micros> well, hostapd, and wpa_supplicant
• 628[03:56:33] <micros> i also at one point (and still sometimes do) use mbim for cell modem
• 629[03:56:55] <micros> let me get a ps -aux output
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• 631[03:57:31] <micros> replaced-url
• 632[03:58:29] <jmcnaught> micros: ps output is not very useful, your logs show dhcpcd is what is configuring eth0, if you don't need it then disable or uninstall that service, or configured it to not use eth0 if you need it for something else
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• 634[03:59:38] <micros> hmmm i see.
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• 639[03:59:51] <micros> i do use it for other interfaces. not sure why its trying to configure eth0. let me check on this.
• 640[04:00:16] <micros> so can dhcpcd bring an interface up if its marked for configuration?
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• 642[04:00:20] <jaythelinuxguy_> Unfortunately, renaming the interface doesn't solve it. br0 doesn't come up at boot. I have to ifup br0. When I do that, the interface gets renamed and then br0 comes up
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• 645[04:01:12] <micros> other than mentioning if eth0 dhcp in the interface files (which i dont do for eth0), i dont see a config file mentioning eth0
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• 649[04:02:02] <micros> would this be a dhcpcd.conf issue?
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• 658[04:06:10] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: you'd have to call the bridge enp1s0f1 rather than br0
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• 664[04:06:51] <micros> jmcnaught - the dhcpcd.conf is practically empty. no mention of any interface by name
• 665[04:06:57] <micros> cd /
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• 670[04:08:30] <jaythelinuxguy_> Dagger, I'm not sure I follow
• 671[04:09:07] <jaythelinuxguy_> Adding ifup br0 to /etc/rc.local makes it come up at boot.
• 672[04:09:16] <micros> ok question. does the /etc/network/interface configuration for each interface have to be indented in to stanza's ?
• 673[04:11:06] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: there's a piece of code somewhere that runs `ifup enp1s0f1` when enp1s0f1 is created. ideally you want that to run `ifup br0` instead, but you could alternately call your bridge "enp1s0f1" so that the automatic `ifup enp1s0f1` brings the bridge up
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• 675[04:11:14] <gam3r> no body can help me please ?
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• 678[04:12:18] <jaythelinuxguy_> That would probably work, but adding it to /etc/rc.local works too. I think this is very, very strange
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• 680[04:14:35] <larvallid> i have a laptop with realtek rtl8821ae wifi and the connection keeps disconnecting at seemingly random times. i tried both firmware-realtek_0.43 and lwfinger rtlwifi_new. is this a known issue?
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• 685[04:16:08] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: you could probably wack a `pre-up sleep 10` into the bridge stanza too... or write a script that sleeps until enp... uh, screw it: until enp<numbers> exists and call that script from pre-up
• 686[04:17:02] <micros> even if i set iface eth0 static, dhcpcd still configures it
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• 692[04:20:45] <jaythelinuxguy_> pre-up sleep 10 doesn't work unfortunately
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• 699[04:21:12] <Dagger> jaythelinuxguy_: hm... odd
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• 704[04:22:58] <jaythelinuxguy_> Should systemd-networkd be enabled?
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• 717[04:33:35] <larvallid> can someone answer my question 20 minutes ago about wifi disconnecting?
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• 727[04:41:53] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, is it a known issue? check bugs page.
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• 730[04:42:25] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, what kernel, which debian release? also, try jessie-backports
• 731[04:42:37] <glick> hi, has anyone setup debian full disk encryption using the libreboot guide?
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• 735[04:43:19] <Atm0spher1c> is the libreboot guide different?
• 736[04:43:36] <Atm0spher1c> than normal fde install?
• 737[04:43:36] <glick> i dont know but thats what im following
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• 740[04:43:52] <glick> there is a step there that i find confusing
• 741[04:44:13] <glick> it says create a logical volume called rootvol
• 742[04:44:28] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, occurs on kernels 3.16 and 4.9.0 (i installed linux-image-amd64 from jessie-backports). debian 8.8.0 amd64. what should i install from jessie-backports?
• 743[04:44:55] <glick> it says for size: default, minus 2048
• 744[04:44:59] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, the reaaltek driver, you said you're using .43
• 745[04:45:01] <glick> i dont get what that means
• 746[04:45:10] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, that's not backports version
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• 749[04:46:43] <Atm0spher1c> glick, you're using the debian installer?
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• 751[04:47:05] <glick> yes
• 752[04:47:22] <Atm0spher1c> glick, and you want to do manual install, rather than guided?
• 753[04:47:26] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, ok i see from replaced-url
• 754[04:47:42] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, I would try that, yes
• 755[04:48:22] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, also you're kernel is newer. but you mentioned that bug occurs on 3.16 and 4.9. So I'm not sure, try it
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• 757[04:48:40] <glick> yup
• 758[04:48:46] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, i currently have "rltwifi_new" by lwfinger installed, which i downloaded from github. is it necessary to remove it first? and do you know how to remove it?
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• 760[04:48:56] <simbalion`> Is there any reason that scripts in cron.daily or other cron folders would need to be go+x? shouldn't they be go-x?
• 761[04:48:56] <Atm0spher1c> lol
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• 763[04:49:07] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, thats great
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• 765[04:49:34] <Atm0spher1c> glick, check debian wiki, and arch wiki for more on this type of thing
• 766[04:49:37] <Atm0spher1c> glick, read up on lvm
• 767[04:50:49] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, do i need to remove rtlwifi_new before installing firmware-realtek from jessie-backports?
• 768[04:51:02] <Atm0spher1c> glick, also maybe test this out on a vm to get the manual install right. encrypted partion > physical volume > lvm volumes. Goes something like that
• 769[04:51:11] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, yes, remove that
• 770[04:51:45] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, ok
• 771[04:52:26] <Atm0spher1c> !tell larvallid about frankendebian
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• 773[04:53:28] <Atm0spher1c> glick, sorry that's enc partion > physical volume > logical volume
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• 776[04:53:49] <glick> i see
• 777[04:53:58] <Atm0spher1c> glick, logical volumes would be something like a /root, /home, and maybe /usr /var /tmp if you want
• 778[04:55:54] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, ok. i am going to reinstall debian to get a clean slate, and come back tomorrow to proceed with the firmware issue.
• 779[04:57:47] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, okay
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• 782[04:58:22] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, fresh install is always nice. Might at as well give it a try anwya then. And later clean up that manually installed package
• 783[04:58:31] <Atm0spher1c> if it works
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• 785[04:59:32] <Atm0spher1c> larvallid, maybe just install stretch while you're at it instead.
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• 788[05:01:04] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, a newer version of gnome sounds nice. i checked the website and there the iso file has 'RC' in its name. once stretch is released, would my RC install be treated any differently?
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• 790[05:01:58] <Atm0spher1c> which website, debian iso?
• 791[05:02:13] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, the official cdimage.debian.org
• 792[05:02:34] <Atm0spher1c> i always use mini.iso, expert install and choose either, stable, testing, or unstable
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• 794[05:03:04] <Atm0spher1c> not sure but I think it should be fine. Check the sources.list file and see what it says
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• 797[05:04:53] <larvallid> Atm0spher1c, for me the internet goes down at the ISP level at certain times so i cant rely on netinst, i prefer full dvd images. i am downloading now and will install stretch rc4. i can reinstall in the future if anything is broken because i installed RC.
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• 832[05:30:13] <glick> the debian wiki is down?
• 833[05:31:16] <jmcnaught> glick: it's up for me
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• 835[05:31:41] <glick> can you access this?
• 836[05:31:42] <glick> replaced-url
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• 838[05:32:01] <glick> i get Forbidden: <p>You are not allowed to access this!</p>
• 839[05:32:41] <aypea[1]> can confirm that it's snogged here also
• 840[05:32:45] <aypea[1]> oo
• 841[05:32:49] <aypea[1]> not quite
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• 843[05:33:00] <aypea[1]> not took a while to load but I think that's the wind blowing away my wifi :)
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• 845[05:33:56] <jmcnaught> glick: sounds like you're reaching the page, but the webserver is giving you a 403 error. Are you on a VPN? The wiki does block some IP addresses for abuse
• 846[05:33:58] <glick> hmm i get 403 when i try to access the debian wiki
• 847[05:34:05] <glick> yes im on on vpn
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• 849[05:35:45] <jmcnaught> try without
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• 865[05:43:03] <glick> im trying to install testing but the docs are not clear
• 866[05:43:06] <glick> on how to do this
• 867[05:43:12] <s00x> hey, how should GRUB2 entry look like in a case of SSD? I cannot google that :(
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• 869[05:43:30] <glick> i went to /etc/apt/source and changed the word main to testing
• 870[05:43:34] <aypea[1]> glick: grab rc4 installer and install as normal.
• 871[05:43:43] <glick> but i get errors when i try apt-get update
• 872[05:43:47] <aypea[1]> glick: yes
• 873[05:43:52] <aypea[1]> glick: are you upgrading or installing?
• 874[05:43:58] <glick> upgrading
• 875[05:44:09] <aypea[1]> glick: you change jessie (or stable) to stretch
• 876[05:44:30] <aypea[1]> glick: and you read the release notes, such as they are, beforehand.
• 877[05:44:35] <jmcnaught> glick: the stretch release notes are still a draft, but they do have upgrade instructions: replaced-url
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• 879[05:44:52] <aypea[1]> jmcnaught: thanks =)
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• 883[05:47:38] <glick> the instructions sy that you should point the entires in your soruces.list file to point to testing
• 884[05:47:43] <glick> or unstable
• 885[05:47:49] <glick> but it doesnt actually say how to do that
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• 888[05:47:51] <glick> wth?
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• 893[05:49:56] <jmcnaught> glick: if you're changing from jessie to stretch, you change every jessie in the file to say stretch. I recommend reading the upgrade instructions completely through once before you start, to make sure you understand everything (relatively) before you start and get stuck on something
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• 908[06:08:34] <VentGrey> Hello, Is there a possible way that i can run "shutdown/reboot" from a terminal without the need of sudo? I use Debian as a Laptop OS so no one else touches nor logs in remotely here
• 909[06:08:57] <AlexLikeRock> yes VentGrey
• 910[06:09:06] <VentGrey> o,o rlly?
• 911[06:09:33] <VentGrey> Ive tried a lot of "stack*" solutions but i still get the same output
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• 913[06:09:54] <VentGrey> "bash: reboot: command not found"
• 914[06:09:55] <AlexLikeRock> by desktop policity OR USER permitions
• 915[06:10:18] <AlexLikeRock> you need add user to group to SHUTDOWN
• 916[06:10:26] <AlexLikeRock> or somting like that
• 917[06:10:33] <AlexLikeRock> google it
• 918[06:11:02] <VentGrey> Let me see
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• 921[06:11:38] <AlexLikeRock> replaced-url
• 922[06:11:56] <AlexLikeRock> "
• 923[06:11:56] <AlexLikeRock> You just need to add the following lines to /etc/sudoers
• 924[06:11:57] <AlexLikeRock> "
• 925[06:12:08] <AlexLikeRock> good luck
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• 928[06:13:19] <cef> AlexLikeRock: which is sort of not what he asked.. since he doesn't want sudo
• 929[06:15:00] <VentGrey> i saw this but it is a little bit too...extreme
• 930[06:15:02] <VentGrey> sudo chmod u+s /sbin/shutdown
• 931[06:15:03] <AlexLikeRock> cef, use "sudo poweroff" or use installed "sudo"
• 932[06:15:23] <AlexLikeRock> used by background
• 933[06:15:40] <cef> AlexLikeRock: that still requires sudo.. which is a problem if you don't want sudo, or have it installed.
• 934[06:16:14] <AlexLikeRock> ask him cef
• 935[06:17:04] <cef> VentGrey: there is systemctl.. which you can use to reboot, if you've got an active session.
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• 937[06:17:13] <VentGrey> systemctl reboot?
• 938[06:17:24] <VentGrey> so that means i could create an alias?
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• 940[06:17:33] <cef> VentGrey: to check if your session is active, run `loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID --property=Active` and see if you get `Active=yes`
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• 942[06:17:52] <Atm0spher1c> looks like he rebooted
• 943[06:18:05] <cef> possibly. ;)
• 944[06:18:09] <Atm0spher1c> :D
• 945[06:18:26] <cef> might not work from remote tho
• 946[06:18:26] <AlexLikeRock> ok, whitout sudo , replaced-url
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• 948[06:20:57] <cef> AlexLikeRock: generic but requires changing permissions, which if you upgrade the pkg that contains /reboot "might" wipe those permissions. Not sure how likely, but it's just something that whoever is doing it needs to consider.
• 949[06:21:23] <AlexLikeRock> of cource need change permissions
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• 951[06:22:09] <VentGrey> oops
• 952[06:22:10] <cef> AlexLikeRock: the systemctl method works if you're in an 'active' session.. in which case you don't need permissions. doesn't necessarily mean it'll work from say, and ssh session though.
• 953[06:22:18] <VentGrey> I typed the systemctl reboot and died XD
• 954[06:22:26] <cef> VentGrey: to check if your session is active, run `loginctl show-session $XDG_SESSION_ID --property=Active` and see if you get `Active=yes`
• 955[06:22:31] <VentGrey> I do no use SSH
• 956[06:22:34] <VentGrey> not*
• 957[06:22:45] <VentGrey> i have that port closed and uninstalled the agent
• 958[06:23:23] <cef> VentGrey: cool. that check will tell you if you've got an active session. afaik if you're "physically on" the machine in question (ie: in front of it) then `systemctl reboot` will work.
• 959[06:24:23] <VentGrey> I did and created a .bash_aliases file with alias reboot='systemctl reboot'
• 960[06:24:24] <cef> VentGrey: afaik it's the same method behind the scenes that the shutdown/reboot buttons in most wm's work.
• 961[06:24:55] <VentGrey> so that's why they do not need to enter a su/sudo password
• 962[06:25:03] <cef> VentGrey: sounds like you've got it all under control then. ;)
• 963[06:25:17] <VentGrey> always asked myself that but never understood it :D Thanks a lot guys
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• 965[06:26:29] <cef> VentGrey: welcome. and likewise, thanks AlexLikeRock for the responses, even if they weren't quite the right answer for VentGrey.
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• 967[06:27:02] <VentGrey> guys == everyone who replied
• 968[06:27:12] <AlexLikeRock> (y)
• 969[06:27:42] <cef> Woops... yes sorry.. partially silly assumptions. ;)
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• 971[06:28:02] <cef> (tho I use 'guys' generically to mean people, not everyone else does).
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• 973[06:29:28] <VentGrey> I also got the horrible bug that killed MATE wallpapers
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• 976[06:29:48] <VentGrey> but devs are somewhat dead and even Sid has it
• 977[06:30:10] <VentGrey> I think it was this bug replaced-url
• 978[06:30:15] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 979[06:30:58] <VentGrey> Like MATE 1.18 it never got here xD
• 980[06:31:15] <VentGrey> I wonder what happened to the maintainers, maybe they are on vacations
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• 1001[06:57:57] <dtux> what's the difference between using a mirror in sources (e.g. ftp.us.debian.org) vs the CDN deb.debian.org?
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• 1014[07:17:17] <Guest32717> dtux: download speed
• 1015[07:18:03] <dtux> the latter being faster or the former?
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• 1019[07:18:53] <Guest32717> dtux: if its close to you location then latter
• 1020[07:19:01] <Guest32717> this is his porpose
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• 1023[07:22:16] <jim> hi, what package for python3 has the pathlib module?
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• 1041[07:34:00] <dtux> Guest32717: does it make sense to have both?
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• 1049[07:40:38] <glick> hi is there anyway to avoid having to enter your passphrase twice in a full disk encrypted system?
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• 1053[07:43:03] <jmcnaught> glick: you have to enter the encryption password twice?
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• 1055[07:43:30] <glick> will FDE hinder disk performance a lot?
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• 1057[07:44:01] <jmcnaught> not a significant one especially on modern hardware
• 1058[07:44:17] <glick> im not on modern hardaware
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• 1061[07:50:15] <glick> is xchat dead?
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• 1065[07:54:21] <glickster> hi
• 1066[07:54:29] <glickster> hexchat aint bad i spose
• 1067[07:54:40] <glickster> but damn, i loved xchat
• 1068[07:54:44] <glickster> :(
• 1069[07:54:52] <AlexLikeRock> try weechat glickster
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• 1074[07:55:36] <AlexLikeRock> replaced-url
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• 1081[07:59:23] <Guest32717> dtux: nope
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• 1083[07:59:56] <Guest32717> jmcnaught: on what distr?
• 1084[08:00:30] <Guest32717> cryptsetup on last versions can save password in temp file and try it before ask second time
• 1085[08:00:35] <jmcnaught> Guest32717: pardon?
• 1086[08:00:52] <Guest32717> jmcnaught: oh miss click sorry
• 1087[08:01:03] <Guest32717> glick: on what distr?
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• 1090[08:01:22] <jmcnaught> hopefully the answer is Debian…
• 1091[08:01:27] <glick> debian
• 1092[08:01:31] <Guest32717> and
• 1093[08:01:33] <Guest32717> version
• 1094[08:01:34] <jmcnaught> \o/
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• 1096[08:01:44] <Guest32717> cryptsetup version
• 1097[08:01:44] <glick> stretch
• 1098[08:02:51] <Guest32717> well if you use packege from stretch repo then it alredy have this functional
• 1099[08:03:11] <glick> col ill check it out
• 1100[08:03:17] <glick> thanks
• 1101[08:03:35] <Guest32717> systemd broken all)
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• 1103[08:03:43] <Guest32717> show you crypttab
• 1104[08:04:14] <glickster> ?
• 1105[08:04:22] <glick> ?
• 1106[08:04:29] <glick> systemd broken?
• 1107[08:04:35] <glick> show you crypt tab?
• 1108[08:05:03] <Guest32717> systemd generate rules to decrypt, dynamicly
• 1109[08:05:19] <Guest32717> and crypttab not adopt for that
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• 1112[08:05:33] <Guest32717> cat /etc/crypttab
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• 1115[08:06:44] <dka> <dka> This is the line, RUNNER_PRIVATE_KEY is a private rsa key
• 1116[08:06:45] <dka> <dka> This is the whole line producing the error : [ -z ${RUNNER_PRIVATE_KEY} ] && echo "env RUNNER_PRIVATE_KEY variable missing" && exit 1
• 1117[08:06:45] <dka> <dka> Why do I have "[: too many arguments" ?
• 1118[08:06:45] <dka> <dka> isn't -z for testing an empty string ? can this string be multiple line like a rsa private key ?
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• 1122[08:06:53] <Guest32717> glick: you have few encypted partitons?
• 1123[08:07:11] <glick> all is encrypted
• 1124[08:07:20] <glick> with lvms
• 1125[08:07:32] <Guest32717> glick: show /etc/crypttab
• 1126[08:08:42] <glick> just one partition
• 1127[08:08:47] <glick> sda1
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• 1129[08:09:36] <Guest32717> show options
• 1130[08:09:58] <Guest32717> its automaticly create by installer?
• 1131[08:10:54] <glickster> yup
• 1132[08:11:47] <Guest32717> glickster: past here whole line
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• 1134[08:13:05] <glickster> sda1_crypt UUID=fb4c5765-dcc2-4bc9-b69b-fc582361cbaa9 none luks
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• 1139[08:16:24] <Guest32717> you need try two options noearly or initramfs
• 1140[08:16:37] <Guest32717> each of this can kill boot proccess)
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• 1142[08:17:03] <Guest32717> you need backup if you cant work with rescue shell
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• 1144[08:17:36] <Guest32717> after update crypttab you need update initramfs
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• 1146[08:17:55] <glickster> i have a libreboot bios
• 1147[08:18:07] <glickster> so i have a test grub embedded
• 1148[08:18:18] <glickster> i can mess with that before changing the main thin
• 1149[08:18:23] <Guest32717> glickster: i down now what it is)
• 1150[08:18:32] <Guest32717> grub embeded in bios?
• 1151[08:18:44] <glickster> Guest32717, yeah i run libreboot
• 1152[08:19:03] <glickster> it embeds grub config files and grub into the bios rom
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• 1154[08:19:17] <Guest32717> you dont need update grub
• 1155[08:19:29] <Guest32717> only initramfs on /boot
• 1156[08:19:43] <Guest32717> update-initramfs -u
• 1157[08:19:44] <glickster> oh
• 1158[08:20:09] <Guest32717> before create backup of initrd.img
• 1159[08:20:11] <Guest32717> on /boot
• 1160[08:20:28] <Guest32717> if all break just replace initrd with backup
• 1161[08:20:46] <Guest32717> all manualy mount root with rescue shell and load system
• 1162[08:21:01] <Guest32717> or create backup with acronis or partclon or clonezilla
• 1163[08:21:06] <Guest32717> well many options
• 1164[08:21:18] <glickster> thanks. although now, i think im gonna catch a few winks
• 1165[08:21:24] <glickster> ive been up all night
• 1166[08:21:33] <glickster> night and thanks
• 1167[08:21:40] <Guest32717> but generally its options wont break all)
• 1168[08:21:42] <Guest32717> bb
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• 1172[08:21:58] <Guest32717> use only one option not both
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• 1252[09:41:01] <nix64bit> vim: error while loading shared libraries: libpython3.4m.so.1.0
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• 1254[09:41:15] <nix64bit> my vim died, any advice?
• 1255[09:41:34] <nix64bit> after updating to stretch from jessie
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• 1261[09:44:14] <nix64bit> I guess i need to reinstall
• 1262[09:44:47] <jelly> nix64bit: what do "dpkg -S $(which vim)" and "ldd $(which vim)" say?
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• 1264[09:45:28] <jelly> ix64bit: make that "dpkg -S $(readlink -f $(which vim))" and "ldd $(which vim)" say?
• 1265[09:45:35] <nix64bit> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/bin/vim
• 1266[09:45:45] <jelly> so you built your own vim.
• 1267[09:46:17] <nix64bit> probably i don't remeber
• 1268[09:46:39] <nix64bit> i had a full django ide
• 1269[09:46:57] <nix64bit> so ia i probably built it
• 1270[09:47:18] <jelly> this is normal, then, your custom vim binary lost a dependency or two on release upgrade
• 1271[09:47:29] <jelly> rebuild it, or use the one from the distro
• 1272[09:47:32] <nix64bit> let me see if i can get a packeaged version
• 1273[09:48:09] <nix64bit> thanks jelly
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• 1276[09:48:34] <jelly> ,v python3.4
• 1277[09:48:35] <judd> Package: python3.4 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.4.2-1
• 1278[09:49:01] <nix64bit> i saw that django ide what did i expect
• 1279[09:51:23] <nix64bit> let me if someone has brought out a howto for stretch
• 1280[09:56:15] <nix64bit> replaced-url
• 1281[09:56:24] <nix64bit> thats what I used
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• 1283[09:58:29] <jelly> you did a bit more than "sudo apt-get install vim" that package suggests, to get a build in /usr/local/bin/vim
• 1284[09:58:36] <jelly> that page* suggests
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• 1294[10:05:47] <nix64bit> I know i shouldnt build stuff from source
• 1295[10:06:03] <nix64bit> but sometimes i do
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• 1307[10:09:52] <nix64bit> Is there a way to list all broken repositories? I see I when i run apt-get update there are a few errors
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• 1312[10:13:49] <nix64bit> it was just a few unneeded repositories i dont need help
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• 1319[10:18:07] <missmbob> !dont break debian
• 1320[10:18:07] <dpkg> [dont break debian] replaced-url
• 1321[10:18:12] <missmbob> nix64bit: ^
• 1322[10:19:38] <nix64bit> missmbob: I fail in all those
• 1323[10:19:59] <missmbob> great. i'll add you to my list of people not to help
• 1324[10:20:32] <nix64bit> you have such a list?
• 1325[10:20:47] <missmbob> i really do
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• 1328[10:22:32] <nix64bit> well i will retain a good sense of humour anyway
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• 1348[10:39:11] <pragomer> hi. I got problems mounting one of my 3 synology nas via nfs. two of my synologys work fine with this fstab:
• 1349[10:39:13] <pragomer> replaced-url
• 1350[10:39:46] <pragomer> the 3rd mounts too, but I cannot access as normal user in dolphin. although I chmod myuser:myser /media/mydata or chmod 775 to it
• 1351[10:39:49] <pragomer> any ideas?
• 1352[10:40:09] <pragomer> I only can access at root. but the config is the same on all synologys and its the same debian
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• 1359[10:44:05] <nix64bit> missmbob: I cant believe you took offense at what i said?
• 1360[10:44:42] <missmbob> nix64bit: i didnt. relax :)
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• 1363[10:46:12] <nix64bit> :)
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• 1463[12:09:58] <nix64bit> for all those following my riveting case of broken vim ide after updating to stretch, I fixed it by deleting the vim in /usr/local/bin and creating a symlink to the packaged version, with a few rebuilds on the plugins its all working
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• 1465[12:13:10] <laapstor> I've been using xscreensaver for a long time .. but i am starting to realize i don't actually need it because i only use it in blank mode plus i would like to lock screen with the login session in other words so when ever the system is idle return to login screen. Is it possible and if then does it have any relation with dconf ??
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• 1469[12:15:17] <laapstor> Can anyone give me a hand ?? I just want to lock the screen with login screen thats all
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• 1472[12:17:52] <laapstor> anyone active ??
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• 1478[12:24:02] <laapstor> I need some help
• 1479[12:24:14] <jelly> laapstor: which DE are you using? gnome and kde each have their own locking mechanism
• 1480[12:24:43] <laapstor> Custom lxde
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• 1484[12:25:05] <laapstor> Custom debian lxde*
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• 1489[12:25:52] <laapstor> Besides i've seen locking alternative like returning to login screen and i think its just great
• 1490[12:26:01] <laapstor> alternatives*
• 1491[12:26:15] <laapstor> I just don't the mechanisms behind them ...
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• 1500[12:30:12] <sIRwa2> hi guys, i have an network interface issue, i upgraded from wheezy to jessie. i have dont it yesterday on a clone, which went fine. so today did it again.. eth0 was down, so when i brought it up i got this: replaced-url
• 1501[12:30:26] <sIRwa2> *dont = done
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• 1506[12:34:53] <abrotman> sIRwa2: you will probably have to show us your interfaces file also
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• 1509[12:35:22] <sIRwa2> thought so :) replaced-url
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• 1511[12:36:53] <sIRwa2> hmm, is it etc/network or etc/networks ?
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• 1516[12:38:18] <abrotman> sIRwa2: and if you run 'dhclient eth0' ?
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• 1519[12:39:22] <sIRwa2> RTNETLINK answers: file exists
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• 1521[12:39:44] <jelly> laapstor: by "return to login screen" do you mean "log off"? That will do it.
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• 1526[12:40:50] <abrotman> sIRwa2: ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 (admittedly, not sure why a server is using dhcp)
• 1527[12:41:31] <sIRwa2> hehe.. true point there..
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• 1529[12:42:01] <sIRwa2> because the router does mac adressing *blushes
• 1530[12:42:02] <laapstor> jelly: more like switch user from lxde-logout
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• 1535[12:45:35] <jelly> laapstor: dunno, maybe try asking in #lxde here or on irc.oftc.net
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• 1537[12:46:21] <jelly> you'd need some sort of integration from locker and display manager (*dm, the thing that does the login screen)
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• 1540[12:47:51] <jelly> #lxde seems to recommend sddm, that's available only in stretch onwarrs
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• 1542[12:47:59] <jelly> onwards
• 1543[12:48:26] <jelly> laapstor: which debian release do you have installed
• 1544[12:48:58] <laapstor> jelly: stretch
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• 1547[12:51:16] <laapstor> Ive seen it done in other distros without sddm
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• 1549[12:51:56] <laapstor> jelly: it must have something to do with dconf or whatever
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• 1551[12:53:16] <jelly> dconf is just a store for configuration. You want to figure out if the functionality exists at all first
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• 1559[13:03:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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• 1616[13:40:19] <TheBossFlinger> Ho
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• 1678[14:26:15] <glick> hi has anyone had any issues with flashrom on a libreboot system?
• 1679[14:26:24] <glick> im trying to flashrom my machine, which worked fine before
• 1680[14:26:32] <glick> and now i get Error accessing high tables
• 1681[14:26:47] <glick> and sefgault
• 1682[14:28:29] <TheBossFlinger> HEWY
• 1683[14:28:31] <TheBossFlinger> glick
• 1684[14:28:44] <glick> hi TheBossFlinger
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• 1688[14:31:38] <sIRwa2> Hi guy’s, still have eth0 problems, cant get my head around it. any help would be much apreciated: replaced-url
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• 1700[14:39:11] <BluesKaj> sIRwa2, so tell what is happening, your ethernet looks normal
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• 1705[14:39:57] <sIRwa2> i dont get a ipv4 i think
• 1706[14:40:13] <ballessay> sIRwa2: are you shure that there is no daemon (NetworkManger...) or dhclient interfering?
• 1707[14:41:25] <sIRwa2> should not be.. i upgrade from wheezy to jessie, did it before on a cloned drive which when fine…
• 1708[14:41:34] <sIRwa2> how can i tell?
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• 1711[14:43:00] <sIRwa2> i do have a couple of services running.. but that should not matter right?
• 1712[14:43:38] <BluesKaj> sIRwa2, are you using network manager
• 1713[14:43:47] <BluesKaj> ?
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• 1717[14:45:11] <sIRwa2> oke, i feel dumb now, but not that im aware of :/ can you give an example?
• 1718[14:45:46] <BluesKaj> sIRwa2, it's default, so if you haven't deliberately removed it then it's running
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• 1721[14:46:10] <sIRwa2> a. oke.. i dont remeber removing it
• 1722[14:46:16] <BluesKaj> ok
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• 1726[14:48:25] <BluesKaj> sIRwa2, in the console, sudo dhclient, then try sudo apt update to see if it connects to the repos
• 1727[14:48:28] <sIRwa2> i dont have a /etc/networkmanager/
• 1728[14:49:10] <BluesKaj> that would be in /usr/bin
• 1729[14:49:42] <sIRwa2> didnt work
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• 1732[14:51:15] <sIRwa2> dont have it in usr/bin either
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• 1735[14:52:38] <BluesKaj> sIRwa2, /etc/init.d/network-manager
• 1736[14:52:50] <BluesKaj> sorry my mistake
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• 1738[14:53:56] <zykotick9> sIRwa2: <note> depending on how/what you installed, you might not have N-M installed in debian...
• 1739[14:54:46] <BluesKaj> sIRwa2, sudo dhclient will just output file exists ,but you should see apt update connect to the repos.
• 1740[14:55:00] <sIRwa2> i did an update by updating the source list
• 1741[14:55:35] <sIRwa2> last screen after update was complete was: replaced-url
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• 1743[14:56:22] <sIRwa2> sudo dhclient doesnt output anything
• 1744[14:57:32] <sIRwa2> weird, the first time i upgraded was over ssh, which whent fine… today i did it localy on the server itself
• 1745[14:57:56] <BluesKaj> looks like you have dependency problems, not ethernet , does your browser connect after a refresh
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• 1749[15:01:05] <sIRwa2> dont have a gui installed
• 1750[15:01:18] <sIRwa2> nor a browser
• 1751[15:01:22] <sIRwa2> :/
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• 1754[15:02:42] <BluesKaj> can you ping google.com?
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• 1756[15:03:11] <sIRwa2> unknown host
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• 1758[15:03:30] <blackhat> selam
• 1759[15:03:35] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: what does `ip addr` tell you
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• 1761[15:03:41] <blackhat> hi
• 1762[15:03:47] <sleepyhead> blackhat: hi
• 1763[15:03:56] <blackhat> I'm from Turkey
• 1764[15:04:06] <sleepyhead> blackhat: uhuh
• 1765[15:04:11] <blackhat> :)
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• 1767[15:04:55] <sIRwa2> sleepyhead: replaced-url
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• 1769[15:05:52] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: yeah you don't have an ip assigned yet
• 1770[15:06:01] <blackhat> replaced-url
• 1771[15:06:06] <da3m0n22> hey, is there anything like #debian-security channel, or should i go here?
• 1772[15:07:07] <zykotick9> da3m0n22: note, there is a #debian-security channel on OFTC
• 1773[15:07:14] <blackhat> ./help
• 1774[15:07:16] <blackhat> help
• 1775[15:07:19] <da3m0n22> oh, oftc, ok, goin there, gedank
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• 1778[15:07:30] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: what does `ifup eth0` do?
• 1779[15:07:40] <sIRwa2> sleepyhead: i just did a ifconfig eth0 down up and now get this: replaced-url
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• 1781[15:08:08] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: post the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
• 1782[15:08:33] <sIRwa2> replaced-url
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• 1784[15:10:55] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: remove those lines iface eth0 until end of file. Replace with the lines given here: replaced-url
• 1785[15:11:16] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: then do an `ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0`
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• 1789[15:13:44] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: so your full /etc/network/interfaces file should look like this: replaced-url
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• 1794[15:15:18] <Lynk> Debian or Linux in general doesn't have support for TM 2.0 ?
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• 1800[15:16:12] <sIRwa2> its weird, ifdown wont work, with —force i get this: replaced-url
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• 1807[15:17:40] <teraflops> because it's not configured…
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• 1809[15:18:31] <sIRwa2> but… arg.. whats what im doing in the interfaces right?
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• 1814[15:20:10] <Lynk> I don't understand how a ethernet cable can do some WiFi ... because of wpasupplicant isn't found on your system
• 1815[15:20:17] <Lynk> sIRwa2: ^
• 1816[15:20:20] <teraflops> sIRwa2: read replaced-url
• 1817[15:20:30] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: is there a dhcp server on your network
• 1818[15:20:58] <teraflops> sIRwa2: replaced-url
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• 1820[15:21:27] <sIRwa2> yhea, have a router doing dhcp
• 1821[15:21:53] <sIRwa2> dont have a wireless adaptor to this machine
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• 1823[15:22:05] <sIRwa2> just a cable
• 1824[15:22:19] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: what is in the directory /etc/network/interfaces.d/ ?
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• 1826[15:22:55] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: if you have any files in /etc/network/interfaces.d/ then delete them
• 1827[15:23:07] <sIRwa2> nope, empty
• 1828[15:24:34] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: hwo about removing wpasupplicant `apt-get purge wpasupplicant`
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• 1830[15:25:22] <Aebian> anyone came accross polkit-agent-helper-1: error response to PolicyKit daemon: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: No session for cookie lately? It should fallback to pkttyagent as I don't have a GUI available here but it doesn't, any ideas?
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• 1836[15:27:55] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: so what happened?
• 1837[15:28:27] <sIRwa2> hes still working on that
• 1838[15:28:53] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: i think one of the .d directories under /etc/network/ is causing this problem. so i would go through the files there and see if any of them is trying to use that wpasupplicant config file.
• 1839[15:29:31] <sleepyhead> sIRwa2: i have to go now so hopefully you're friend will figure it out. it would have been better if you got him online instead of being his proxy.
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• 1841[15:29:57] <sIRwa2> oke.. now im at samba server and utilities config screen o 0
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• 1844[15:30:47] <sIRwa2> looks like its finishing the upgrade process..
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• 1846[15:32:08] <sIRwa2> what friend was he talking about…
• 1847[15:32:13] * sIRwa2 confused
• 1848[15:33:57] <BluesKaj> think because you posting screens rather than text directly he thought you were acting on a friend's behalf, sIRwa2
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• 1850[15:34:36] <sIRwa2> a, :) was posting pic because no ssh
• 1851[15:35:13] <BluesKaj> yes, maybe he did't see that post
• 1852[15:35:17] <sIRwa2> but he did fix it… not sure what the purge triggered
• 1853[15:35:51] <sIRwa2> but it looked like alot was still to be sett up
• 1854[15:36:03] <BluesKaj> me niether , but if you're connected now, it's all good
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• 1857[15:37:07] <sIRwa2> yes, you aswell tnx fot your input.. and the other!
• 1858[15:37:13] <BluesKaj> think he there was interference from the wifi app
• 1859[15:37:19] <BluesKaj> said'
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• 1861[15:37:48] <sIRwa2> yhea. looks like it
• 1862[15:37:55] <BluesKaj> wpasupplicant...dunno why that would be the case
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• 1864[15:39:11] <Lynk> [15:15] <Lynk> Debian or Linux in general doesn't have support for TM 2.0 ?
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• 1875[15:48:45] <sIRwa2> oke, last question since the upgrade the terminal font size whent super tiny. compaired to my previous screens: replaced-url
• 1876[15:49:17] <sIRwa2> anyone know where to set that? is it video resolution or is it font size?
• 1877[15:51:46] <BluesKaj> i usually both , but since you're not using a DE Idon't know what the command would be to resize
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• 1881[15:52:08] <BluesKaj> sIRwa2, ^
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• 1883[15:52:44] <sIRwa2> DE? a, desktop env
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• 1885[15:52:54] <BluesKaj> yes
• 1886[15:53:05] <sIRwa2> yhea, its a jessie thing. in wheezy it was always cool
• 1887[15:53:46] <sIRwa2> oke.. prio low.. below afternoon naps :)
• 1888[15:55:54] <BluesKaj> sIRwa2, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
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• 1890[15:56:06] <hellyeah> hey
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• 1894[15:58:25] <hellyeah> aptitude install nodejs -t jessie-backports will give me "current nodejs"?
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• 1900[16:00:45] <hellyeah> what
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• 1903[16:04:49] <sIRwa2> tnx BluesKaj
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• 1906[16:07:18] <BluesKaj> sIRwa2, hope you find a readable font
• 1907[16:07:50] <BluesKaj> BBL
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• 1912[16:12:37] <themill> hellyeah: it will give you the current version in jessie-backports. That's at least 10 minutes and 12 versions behind the current upstream release.
• 1913[16:13:17] <hellyeah> yeah seems current version of nodejs is 7
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• 1920[16:17:21] <hellyeah> is it right time to get debian stretch?
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• 1924[16:18:18] <dvs> hellyeah, I'd say the right time is when it's released
• 1925[16:18:25] <BluesKaj> hellyeah, work machine or home?
• 1926[16:18:33] <hellyeah> stretch is testing right
• 1927[16:18:35] <hellyeah> at home
• 1928[16:19:00] <hellyeah> if i use machine at work i prolly go for jessie
• 1929[16:19:16] <BluesKaj> I'm running it without any trouble at all on my home pc
• 1930[16:19:47] <themill> There's almost nothing going to change between now and release.
• 1931[16:20:07] <BluesKaj> but I use plasma /kde , so I can't advise about other DEs
• 1932[16:20:25] <hellyeah> i am using gnome
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• 1935[16:21:26] <hellyeah> btw
• 1936[16:21:32] <hellyeah> what is super cow powers
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• 1971[16:33:25] <sIRwa2> probebly much discussed: is Samba Version 4.2.14-Debian the latest/patched?
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• 1975[16:35:03] <themill> You'd want to look at the package version and then compare it with the relevant DSA
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• 1982[16:38:38] <pat> having unknown the chat server concept
• 1983[16:39:28] <pat> can we use different chat client, such as hexchat talks with weechat user?
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• 1985[16:40:31] <Brigo> pat, of course
• 1986[16:42:02] <pat> that i will try using weechat on termux, in android
• 1987[16:42:36] <sIRwa2> latest:2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u6 i have 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u5 shouldnt apt-get upgrade updated this already?
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• 1989[16:44:22] <pat> hexchat comes with antix-15 which i am using for years
• 1990[16:44:46] <pat> i will try weechat will be phone and on antix
• 1991[16:45:38] <johnkeates> wee chat. is that like piss chat?
• 1992[16:45:46] <johnkeates> it doesn't sound right to me
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• 1994[16:46:40] <johnkeates> sIRwa: that depends on your apt sources and on you doing apt update/upgrade i suppose
• 1995[16:47:15] <pat> i know how wee sounds like, it mislead me with wechat in the first place
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• 2002[16:49:04] <johnkeates> maybe they named it that way just to mess with people
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• 2017[16:54:19] <judd> Package: samba on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u7; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u13; wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u5; jessie-security: 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u6; stretch: 2:4.5.8+dfsg-2; sid: 2:4.5.8+dfsg-2
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• 2020[16:56:36] <covertops> hey people, how are you all?
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• 2052[17:15:06] <dorothy> Hi, how can I install softwares without actually running them immediately? For example installation of apache2 starts the webserver. Is there a way to install apache2 so it would require a 'manual first start'? The goal is to don't start these services BEFORE configuration.
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• 2060[17:17:37] <nix64bit> I am struggling ti get vim installed with python support with package manager stretch
• 2061[17:18:07] <teraflops> dorothy: it's a debian feature...
• 2062[17:18:12] <dollar> :D
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• 2065[17:19:36] <nix64bit> if I install vim-python-jedi it looks for the runtime in /usr/local/bin i dont want to symlink it want to find what keeps changing the bin/
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• 2067[17:19:44] <dorothy> teraflops: is there a way to turn that feature off?
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• 2070[17:21:11] <teraflops> No idea
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• 2108[17:47:08] <micros> morning
• 2109[17:47:51] <micros> jmcnaught - hi. thanks for the help yesterday. i learned some new tools which ill keep handy for the future... any other suggestions on where to look for dhcpcd configuration which might try to bring up and configure eth0?
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• 2113[17:49:17] <micros> wait, dhcpcd is the daemon... need to find client config
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• 2116[17:51:57] <dollar> nano /etc/network/interfaces ?
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• 2119[17:53:44] <micros> dollar - there is nothing there for eth0. yet, something still brings it up and configures it with dhcp. i have added lines in there to force the configuration to manual and static but neither prevent dhcp from running. i would like to force it 'down' on startup
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• 2137[18:00:35] <dollar> hmm sadly I am lost :( I am kinda new myslef, maybe you can try and bring down the interface and configure it and start it again
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• 2144[18:04:08] <nix64bit> micros: what are you trying to do with dhcp?
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• 2146[18:04:41] <nix64bit> do you want a dhcp client or a server
• 2147[18:04:58] <nix64bit> i see client
• 2148[18:05:20] <micros> well, i have both, but not at the same time
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• 2153[18:08:21] <micros> i have dhcpcd to configure all network interfaces.
• 2154[18:08:26] <micros> but eth0 should be down
• 2155[18:08:28] <micros> wont stay down
• 2156[18:08:44] <nix64bit> it might be respawing
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• 2158[18:09:25] <nix64bit> do tou gave another port?
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• 2160[18:09:51] <micros> ifconfig eth0 down -> reboot -> its back up. /etc/network/interfaces, remove auto eth0, iface eth0 dhcp/manual/static -> still comes up. journalctl | grep -i eth0 shows dhcpc waiting for carrier on eth0, then configuring it. no network managers installed, boot to command line. totally confused and out of ideas. really need some guidance.
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• 2164[18:11:44] <nix64bit> in your /etc/network/interfaces do you have "auto eth0"
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• 2166[18:13:10] <nix64bit> maybe set it a static address for now
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• 2168[18:14:02] <nix64bit> I had something similar awhile back, it was being respawned by a startup scrip
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• 2170[18:15:01] <nix64bit> good luck i need to dash
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• 2172[18:16:42] <nix64bit> make sure it reads your inferfaces script
• 2173[18:18:15] <nix64bit> replaced-url
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• 2176[18:18:29] <nix64bit> micros: ^^
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• 2179[18:20:15] <freakyy> hi all. i keep ahving datbase connection problems. ever hour or so, my owncloud cron script errors out and says too many connections to mysqld. how can i fix that?
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• 2181[18:21:36] <shtrb> updare max_connections field ?
• 2182[18:22:50] <shtrb> freakyy , in your cnf file write max_connections=XXX (where XXX the value you wish to have )
• 2183[18:23:13] <shtrb> but check why you are hitting that limit
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• 2185[18:23:36] <freakyy> how do i check why i hit this limit?
• 2186[18:24:09] <shtrb> freakky , first I would check if your script actually disconnect when it finishes , and not have many open sessions (I do not know what it does )
• 2187[18:24:30] <shtrb> freakky , and not having many scripts that are running one by one (if that is not needed)
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• 2205[18:33:56] <dqsii> replaced-url
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• 2236[18:50:30] <__james> apt-get -f install ?????
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• 2252[18:56:21] <freakyy> is there no way to find out, what script is taking up so many database connections?
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• 2255[18:57:38] <shtrb> I thought you knew what was connecting to your mysqld
• 2256[18:59:20] <freakyy> no i dont
• 2257[18:59:21] <shtrb> I think you can start with "show processlist" (to see what are the active ones )
• 2258[18:59:34] <freakyy> shtrb: ah ok thanks ;D
• 2259[18:59:44] <shtrb> (*) that is a command , that will be a good start
• 2260[19:00:04] <shtrb> I just hope that each script has it's own user/pwd because if it is not ...
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• 2262[19:01:14] <shtrb> but first check your owncloud script
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• 2264[19:01:51] <shtrb> And if different users connect to owncloud it hit the limit (I think the default was 16 in mysql )
• 2265[19:02:11] <shtrb> didn't use it for ~6 years :-(
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• 2268[19:02:51] <freakyy> ok thank you but if i write show processlist; inside a phpmyadmin sql query field, and click execute it tells me
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• 2271[19:03:09] <shtrb> I meant in mysql shell
• 2272[19:03:19] <freakyy> ah no it works
• 2273[19:03:21] <freakyy> thanks ;D
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• 2275[19:03:32] <shtrb> it should give you a list of threads
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• 2277[19:04:06] <tfgbd_znc> Does anyone else here use debian on Android?
• 2278[19:04:46] <tfgbd_znc> I have an x86 android phone which I use debian to install qemu on.
• 2279[19:04:47] <freakyy> it did, thanks shtrb
• 2280[19:04:52] <freakyy> now i ahve to wait until site is anavailable
• 2281[19:04:55] <freakyy> thank you very much :)
• 2282[19:05:18] <shtrb> I didn't do anything : ) , try to have several users loged in (each may take a connection )
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• 2286[19:06:48] <shtrb> freakkyy , is the current one close to your limit ?
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• 2292[19:12:34] <Eryn_1983_FL> hi peeps i am trying to get my terminator to have a transparent background.. and my intel drivers are not being nice.
• 2293[19:12:57] <tfgbd_znc> terminator?
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• 2296[19:13:12] <Eryn_1983_FL> its a terminal
• 2297[19:13:15] <Eryn_1983_FL> replaced-url
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• 2299[19:13:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> thats my x11 config,
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• 2302[19:14:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> whats installed i think..
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• 2330[19:36:28] <micros> is it possible that the loading of the smsc ethernet driver is also bringing up the interface in the driver code?
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• 2332[19:36:50] <birkoff> does dd's count, after a skip, count from the beginning of a file or from the skip point?
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• 2335[19:38:25] <shtrb> micros , I think yes
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• 2338[19:39:54] <micros> i cannot explain otherwise why the eth0 interface is always up despite my best effort to force it down after restart
• 2339[19:40:04] <shtrb> (*) if it's plugged in
• 2340[19:40:11] <micros> ?
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• 2342[19:40:15] <micros> linked?
• 2343[19:40:42] <shtrb> If we are talking about the same hardware (usb2ethenet ) and smsc driver
• 2344[19:42:08] <micros> might be
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• 2346[19:42:48] <micros> seems it is connected over usb
• 2347[19:43:12] <micros> can i disconnect a usb device programatically?
• 2348[19:43:18] <micros> or on the command line?
• 2349[19:43:36] <shtrb> first make sure it's the same thing :)
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• 2351[19:44:01] <micros> defintely is
• 2352[19:44:13] <micros> i will try writing the dev tree
• 2353[19:44:19] <micros> authorized file
• 2354[19:45:36] <shtrb> have you tried ifdown / rmmod etc
• 2355[19:45:54] <shtrb> and ifconfig dev down
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• 2359[19:48:08] <shtrb> I think you wish to play with /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/unbind
• 2360[19:48:37] <shtrb> don't be surprised to see vista installed on your machine if you play with /sys
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• 2362[19:50:07] <tfgbd_znc> Vista?
• 2363[19:50:10] <tfgbd_znc> How
• 2364[19:50:33] <micros> lol
• 2365[19:50:40] <micros> authorized didnt seem to work
• 2366[19:50:42] <micros> ill try unbind
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• 2368[19:50:55] <shtrb> Just a general warning to make the reader feel the dangerous waters he is getting into
• 2369[19:51:02] <shtrb> echo ID > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/unbind should be enough (when ID is the USB id)
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• 2371[19:51:57] <micros> eperm
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• 2373[19:52:09] <micros> oh sorry. unbind isnt there
• 2374[19:52:12] <micros> i tried remove
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• 2376[19:52:54] <shtrb> are you sure you are in the correct place ? because authorized is one subfolder up
• 2377[19:54:17] <micros> well. /sys/bus/usb/devices/ has a few device folders, the one with the id of the device i need is 1-1.1
• 2378[19:54:24] <micros> in that directory is authorized, but not unbind
• 2379[19:54:54] <micros> ah
• 2380[19:55:12] <micros> found it in sys/bus/drivers/smsc95xx
• 2381[19:55:36] <micros> unbind is w only, what does this do exactly?
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• 2384[19:56:17] <shtrb> sends a tomahawk to the destination
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• 2390[19:59:25] <shtrb> it should drop the connection if you send the ID there ("unbind" ) , so the driver will not see it anymore
• 2391[19:59:36] <jmcnaught> micros: hey. do you have a new paste of searching "eth0" in your logs to look at? I don't use dhcpcd, but that is what was configuring your eth0 yesterday. Even if eth0 is not mentioned in dhcpcd's config, you might need to explicitly tell it not to use eth0
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• 2393[20:00:07] <jmcnaught> trying to bring it down after it comes up is not the solution, stop it from coming up in the first place is what you need
• 2394[20:00:07] <micros> thats a decent idea.
• 2395[20:00:17] <micros> jmcnaught - agreed
• 2396[20:00:22] <shtrb> oh , you should have told that
• 2397[20:00:47] <micros> however, telling dhcpcd not to configure the interface is still different than the interface coming up. if i solve the first problem, then dhcpcd wont try to configure it
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• 2399[20:01:28] <shtrb> Depending what you configured , check your network interfaces (maybe you had that enabled there ) or nm
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• 2401[20:01:30] <micros> shtrb - the goal is to NOT bring up eth0 on reboot, but no matter what i do, i see the driver load, then dhcpcd configure it.
• 2402[20:01:42] <micros> shtrb - its not in there.
• 2403[20:01:49] <micros> shtrb - its not in there. - to be clear, /etc/network/interfaces.
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• 2405[20:02:47] <shtrb> I will leave the podium to jmcnaught because he seem to have some previous information on what you have tried to do before
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• 2409[20:05:02] <jmcnaught> i wouldn't worry about the driver loading or the linux being UP, the thing you don't want is for it to be configured with an IP address
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• 2411[20:05:42] <jmcnaught> if you did "systemctl disable dhcpcd" (service name might vary) then rebooted, does eth0 still get configured?
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• 2413[20:06:59] <micros> i have not tried. if i do this, should i assume that the wlan0 interface will also NOT get configured? at the moment, the device is headless and i rely on SSH to get it
• 2414[20:07:00] <micros> i
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• 2436[20:18:38] <jmcnaught> micros: can you plug in a monitor? or with a line "iface eth0 inet manual" in your /e/n/interfaces file?
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• 2445[20:22:16] <micros> i did the inet manual approach - still came up dhcp
• 2446[20:22:24] <micros> that one one of the first things i tried :)
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• 2452[20:24:39] <jmcnaught> i was wondering if dhcpcd would ignore an iface defined in /etc/network/interfaces the way that NetworkManager will
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• 2457[20:25:08] <jmcnaught> are you sure that you can't accomplish what you need using NetworkManager instead of dhcpcd (not clear why you're using this)
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• 2460[20:25:35] <micros> denyinterfaces in dhcpcd.conf seems to do the trick
• 2461[20:25:44] <micros> i will generate the file like that.
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• 2472[20:30:42] <jhutchins> micros: It sounds like you have NetworkManger running.
• 2473[20:30:51] <jhutchins> micros: Why is it you want eth0 to stay down again?
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• 2516[20:52:35] <Aly`> x
• 2517[20:52:39] <Aly`> Sorry.
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• 2525[20:54:21] <gam3r> hi every body !
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• 2527[20:55:02] <gam3r> have one people for help me for use a xorg.conf with nvidia driver (from jessie backports) please ??
• 2528[20:55:07] <gam3r> replaced-url
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• 2557[21:09:26] <glick> hey, does anyone run their own email server from home?
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• 2575[21:17:00] <leachim6> you shouldn't, it's a bad idea
• 2576[21:17:05] <leachim6> your IP is probably burned
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• 2578[21:17:46] <shtrb> glick , you can do that if you are whitelisted somewhere and have all setup correctly
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• 2582[21:19:12] <teraflops> glick: theoretically yes. but you need to request ptr and setup rdns, and also make sure the ip they give you isnt already backlisted
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• 2584[21:21:50] <teraflops> glick: if you want just make tests, run a tunnelbroker and make it ipv6 only. but then make sure they have not port 25 blocked
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• 2589[21:25:26] <binaryc> don't break debian
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• 2592[21:26:10] <phogg> but it's so much fun!
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• 2618[21:39:24] <begobegola> disconnect
• 2619[21:39:36] <begobegola> hey
• 2620[21:39:44] <begobegola> anybody here
• 2621[21:39:46] <begobegola> ?
• 2622[21:40:04] <petn-randall> begobegola: no
• 2623[21:40:14] <begobegola> are you sure?#
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• 2625[21:40:28] <begobegola> and you?
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• 2635[21:44:41] <colcha> when I use the "-c" option on mkfs.vfat, does it mark the sectors as bad, and avoid using the filesystem on that sector? Cause I've just executed the command, but it stills shows me the 3,9GB memory size.
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• 2637[21:45:56] <colcha> And its supposed to be 1.8GB of bad sectors, according to the badblocks command.
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• 2641[21:48:40] <tomnor> running debian stretch on a t430s and it seems bluetooth is not working
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• 2643[21:48:53] <tomnor> do I need to install some non-free stuff for that?
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• 2672[22:05:34] <jer0me> maybe some firmwares, depends on your chip.
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• 2679[22:06:41] <tomnor> jer0me: any hints for debug?
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• 2685[22:08:02] <glick> hey if i did cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/sdX /etc/mykeyfile what did that do? should i undo that
• 2686[22:08:04] <glick> ?
• 2687[22:08:22] <sdffgergergethee> No
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• 2689[22:08:39] <petn-randall> glick: The man page explains it.
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• 2691[22:09:11] <glick> petn-randall, yeah i read the man page i added a file containing the password but im not sure exactly what that did or if i should undo it
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• 2693[22:09:19] <glick> i wanted to complete a process but i cant
• 2694[22:09:24] <glick> so im not 100% sure what thta did
• 2695[22:09:54] <petn-randall> glick: It'll allow you to unlock the container with that file.
• 2696[22:10:23] <glick> petn-randall, im trying to figure out how to do that in debian, the guide shows it for archlinux
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• 2698[22:10:38] <glick> and makes use of the mkinitcpio bash script but there is no such script in debian
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• 2700[22:10:51] <petn-randall> glick: It might help us if you tell what you're trying to do.
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• 2702[22:11:14] <glick> im trying to do this replaced-url
• 2703[22:11:16] <glick> the bonus
• 2704[22:11:23] <glick> using a keyfile to unlock /boot
• 2705[22:11:27] <glick> but on debian instead of arch
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• 2708[22:12:32] <petn-randall> glick: I don't think Debian can boot from encrypted /boot.
• 2709[22:13:01] <glick> i have full disk encryption now
• 2710[22:13:13] <glick> i just have to enter the passphrase twice
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• 2712[22:13:17] <glick> which i want to avoid
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• 2717[22:16:13] <glick> maybe ill just have to live with putting in my password twice
• 2718[22:17:02] <jelly> glick: debian uses initramfs-tools and update-initramfs command
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• 2721[22:17:46] <jelly> probably have to write your own hooks for those to deal with unusual luks unlocking setup
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• 2725[22:18:21] <n4dir> iirc i can confirm that /boot has to be not encrypted (two passwords probably is / and home)
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• 2728[22:19:13] <n4dir> wouldn't know why one should encrypt /boot anyway (not that i thought much about it)
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• 2730[22:20:03] <petn-randall> n4dir: If you have all in the container, you can set grub up to decrypt it, grab the kernel + initramfs and boot that, but the initramfs will at some point ask for a password, too.
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• 2732[22:20:54] <p0rt_> I don't see the whole conversation, but if I understand correctly n4dir wants to have whole disk encrypted, including /boot, and type the password only once, right?
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• 2735[22:21:21] <n4dir> looks like that, though it was not me
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• 2738[22:21:39] <p0rt_> oh okay
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• 2740[22:21:47] <tobiasBora> Hello,
• 2741[22:22:03] <p0rt_> It's achievable with libreboot for sure
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• 2743[22:23:07] <tobiasBora> I've a pretty funny goal: I'd like to be able to create a ssh-like connection, to a friend F, under a nat, without installing anything on his computer (basically the install system is broken). I also would like to be able to run "complex" tty programs, such as screen, emacs...
• 2744[22:23:15] <p0rt_> And I also think that if you could make one partition _just_ for grub, you could boot grub from there, and then in grub decrypt the disk.
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• 2746[22:23:44] <jelly> tobiasBora: do they have a working ssh client
• 2747[22:23:47] <tobiasBora> for now, I'm using this method: on the server I run "nc -l -p 23456", and on the client : "mkfifo fifo0 && nc localhost 23456 < fifo0 | sh > fifo0"
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• 2750[22:24:20] <tobiasBora> jelly: open-ssh-server is not installed, so I cannot use reverse ssh
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• 2753[22:24:35] <tobiasBora> (replace localhost by the server ip)
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• 2758[22:25:26] <tobiasBora> it works great for classic commands, but if I try to run emacs/vim/screen, I'm a message sying that it's not a tty
• 2759[22:25:30] <tobiasBora> so I'd like to simulate it
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• 2761[22:28:00] <tobiasBora> do you have any idea to do that?
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• 2772[22:31:42] <tobiasBora> I heard about socat, but not sure how to use it
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• 2778[22:33:37] <Akuw> is there any application to create boot USB linux iso?
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• 2794[22:37:49] <n4dir> i would assume that dd does it
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• 2813[22:46:51] <bluewhitew> hello all :)
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• 2817[22:47:44] <bluewhitew> wonder if someone know how to put a background image on a framebuffer console
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• 2819[22:48:47] <jelly> run X instead, it's faster
• 2820[22:48:52] <bluewhitew> lool
• 2821[22:49:02] <bluewhitew> really i need
• 2822[22:49:06] <jelly> it isn't lool when it's true
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• 2827[22:50:59] <jelly> but really, a framebuffer is a framebuffer. If you want a background image and something above it, your fb app will have to draw all of it
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• 2829[22:51:30] <bluewhitew> i am using just a console now with tmux
• 2830[22:51:33] <jelly> perhaps fbterm has such a feature
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• 2832[22:51:51] <bluewhitew> on my raphberry pi
• 2833[22:51:55] <jelly> bluewhitew: how much RAM does your system have?
• 2834[22:52:08] <jelly> are you running debian or raspbian?
• 2835[22:52:25] <bluewhitew> yes
• 2836[22:52:28] <bluewhitew> i have 1GB of ram
• 2837[22:52:31] <jelly> which one?
• 2838[22:52:32] <krc4267-> Anyone got any tips on getting apt-get to not remove half the system when I'm trying to install something?
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• 2840[22:52:37] <jelly> !raspbian
• 2841[22:52:37] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. replaced-url
• 2842[22:52:38] <n4dir> fbi does it, iirc, bluewhitew
• 2843[22:52:50] <jelly> fbi only shows images
• 2844[22:53:10] <bluewhitew> ok, thnx
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• 2846[22:53:12] <bluewhitew> i will try
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• 2848[22:53:43] <jelly> krc4267-: tell it not to remove things you like. for a start,
• 2849[22:53:45] <jelly> !bat
• 2850[22:53:45] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
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• 2852[22:54:22] <n4dir> bluewhitew: a couple of apps and links for more are listed here: replaced-url
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• 2855[22:55:53] <krc4267-> jelly, basically it's just autoremoving everything when i'm trying to install a package. Here: replaced-url
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• 2862[22:57:23] <bluewhitew> thnx n4dir
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• 2867[22:59:15] <webbyz> If anyone is interested in a free $10 credit for DigitalOcean (instantly create servers / VPS in under 1 minute): replaced-url
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• 2870[22:59:48] <jelly> krc4267-: can you provide all the other info?
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• 2872[23:00:46] <krc4267-> jelly, so I need to type out all those packages into apt-cache policy?
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• 2876[23:02:44] <jelly> krc4267-: start with libgl1-mesa-swx11 libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-nvidia-legacy-304xx-glx
• 2877[23:02:51] <krc4267-> aight
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• 2884[23:03:55] <jelly> krc4267-: but if you look at "apt-cache show libgl1-mesa-swx11" you'll see it explicitely Conflicts: libgl1, libgl1-mesa-swrast, mesag3, mesag3+ggi, mesag3-glide, mesag3-glide2, nvidia-glx
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• 2886[23:04:44] <jelly> so it wants other libgl1 implementations removed
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• 2888[23:05:03] <jelly> so... you're asking apt to do that. probably.
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• 2890[23:05:24] <krc4267-> alright, that's fine- I don't understand why it's removing abiword, cheese, wine, libsdl, etc
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• 2895[23:06:30] <jelly> probably because one or more of those depends on a saner libgl1 alternative
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• 2901[23:07:04] <krc4267-> jelly, what do you reccomend doing?
• 2902[23:07:20] <jelly> why do you want that one?
• 2903[23:08:03] <krc4267-> Because that's the package that was reccomended on the Kivy forum.
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• 2905[23:08:23] <jelly> recommended for what use?
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• 2909[23:08:50] <krc4267-> I mean no the kivy forum, derp... Stackexchange. Got confused. Trying to make something using pygame run over VNC
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• 2913[23:09:17] <jelly> how does it fail right now?
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• 2917[23:10:02] <krc4267-> "The module raised an important error: "Couldn't find matching GLX visual""
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• 2919[23:10:21] <jelly> krc4267-: what does "glxinfo" say in the same session?
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• 2921[23:11:07] <krc4267-> replaced-url
• 2922[23:11:30] <jelly> ah.
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• 2927[23:12:08] <jelly> do you absolutely need a separate session for vnc? If attaching to working X session is an option, try x11vnc
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• 2931[23:12:35] <krc4267-> I'm using x11vnc -create. It's a headless server.
• 2932[23:13:17] <jelly> seems you'll have to break your opengl drivers to do it in there, then
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• 2934[23:13:53] <jelly> or set up a new debian chroot with whatever packages you need and run vnc server in there
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• 2936[23:14:21] <jelly> krc4267-: if it's a headless server, why do you have nvidia drivers installed at all?
• 2937[23:14:30] <jelly> and all the other X apps?
• 2938[23:14:34] <krc4267-> jelly, leftover from an old test I did
• 2939[23:14:52] <jelly> so let apt remove all that, and install it back afterwards
• 2940[23:15:00] <krc4267-> other X apps are there so I can use them over VNC
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• 2943[23:15:29] <jelly> I didn't know x11vnc could be used standalone. That's what normal vnc server is for
• 2944[23:16:25] <krc4267-> Well, it can't. Technically what it's doing is creatingan X session and then connecting to it
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• 2952[23:21:39] <jelly> krc4267-: what if you first explicitely start Xvfb +extension GLX ..., then attach x11vnc to it?
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• 2957[23:23:28] <krc4267-> jelly, already just let apt do its thing and it works now
• 2958[23:25:15] <jelly> apt sometimes has issues with complex circular dependencies and alternatives. aptitude sometimes works better
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• 2974[23:32:42] <slick> hello
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• 2978[23:34:56] <slick> i am running Debian Testing (stretch) and i am having a slight issue where I cant get lightdm.service to enable, however, the package itself works fine when i simply start it.
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• 2981[23:36:19] <slick> give me a second to post
• 2982[23:36:26] <slick> the error
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• 2990[23:38:55] <AlexPortable> I have a program I start at system boot with a cronjob for an user, is it possible to convert this into a service so I can start / stop it more easily?
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• 2995[23:43:18] <slick> paste.debian.net/hidden/90fa3f96
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• 2997[23:43:29] <slick> there is my error
• 2998[23:44:02] <slick> when i try
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• 3001[23:44:10] <slick> to enable lightdm
• 3002[23:44:17] <slick> as ive stated above
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• 3010[23:46:29] <teraflops> AlexPortable: man systemd.unit or search on the intertubes how to write a systemd unit file.
• 3011[23:46:43] <AlexPortable> okay thanks
• 3012[23:46:51] <AlexPortable> and how do i start/stop a service on boot?
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• 3027[23:51:20] <teraflops> slick: are you sure you dont have another DM already enabled?
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