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21[00:13:11] <bmomjian> Should I have any Obsolete or Locally
Created packages I don't know about in Aptitude on Jessie?
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22[00:14:12] <Brigo> bmomjian, normally you should know it, if
not, try to delete them.
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24[00:14:39] <bmomjian> ok, thanks, that's what I thought.
This system was initially Squeeze. I think it kept them around in
case something needed them.
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33[00:17:55] <bmomjian> OK, all removed, thanks.
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44[00:22:58] <transhuman_> trying an older kernel
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85[00:46:51] <AcE-beta> hola
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88[00:48:58] <teraflops> aloh
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93[00:50:01] <awal1> Is the 'wdm'
maintainer/developer around here?
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97[00:53:29] <unborn> guys which apply to debian jessie in
fstab? nofail or nobootwait?
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104[00:56:14] <nkuttler> unborn: man 5 fstab
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108[00:57:13] <defanor> does debian 8.3 netinst download
anything if only a bare system with sshd is required? if it does,
how much it downloads? also,
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113[00:58:51] <unborn> defanor: I think nope..
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115[00:59:23] <unborn> its fastest install and I was able to
install whole system without network
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118[01:00:18] <defanor> unborn: that's nice, thanks
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119[01:00:52] <unborn> nkuttler: so its nofail.. can you just
confirm please?
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123[01:02:23] <markybob> defanor: btrfs is in there if you go
manual. ext4 will simply be chosen by default.
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125[01:03:14] <unborn> yeah nofail worked :) thanks nkuttler
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129[01:04:17] <defanor> markybob: thanks
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141[01:05:44] <AcE-beta> alguno de vosotros a pasado de windows
con fakeraid a linux?
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144[01:06:00] <markybob> !pt
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145[01:06:01] <dpkg> Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em
portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join
#debian-pt )
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272[01:58:36] <jhutchins> Very strange. I keep loosing my mouse,
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273[01:58:54] <jhutchins> I can click a mouse button and it
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299[02:11:03] <[BNC]dimitry7> hey guys
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300[02:11:16] <[BNC]dimitry7> is it possible to convert a 64-bit
binany file into a 32-bit one?
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301[02:11:26] <[BNC]dimitry7> cos im getting this error: -su:
/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_firebird: cannot execute binary file
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305[02:13:15] <axc1298> why not just download the 32-bit
version?
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306[02:13:24] <[BNC]dimitry7> it isn't available :S
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309[02:13:44] <technohehl> I think it is not possible
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310[02:13:47] <axc1298> 64-bit won't work on 32 bit system
unfortunately
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313[02:14:25] <[BNC]dimitry7> okay :(, It's a pity
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314[02:14:30] <[BNC]dimitry7> thanks guys!
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315[02:14:56] <technohehl> Which software do u want to install?
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316[02:14:57] <Sir_Designer> [BNC]dimitry7 you may be able to
get your hands on a source file and compile it to 32 bit target
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317[02:15:29] <themill> [BNC]dimitry7: you can run an i386
userspace on top of an amd64 kernel
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322[02:16:26] <[BNC]dimitry7> Sir_Designer, yeah I'l try to
find one I can compile
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324[02:16:47] <karlpinc> jhutchins: Last time that happened to
me it was a network switch going flaky between my box and my X
server.
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326[02:17:09] <[BNC]dimitry7> themill, the thing is that the
hardware is 32 bit
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330[02:17:21] <themill> that's never going to work then
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331[02:17:57] <[BNC]dimitry7> yeah :(
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334[02:18:23] <[BNC]dimitry7> themill, i might monitor my
service from another host, I'll do that :D
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335[02:18:31] <technohehl> [BNC]dimitry7, maybe there in eaqual
software
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336[02:18:43] <[BNC]dimitry7> technohehl, yes maybe
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337[02:18:50] <themill> I'd also double check that it
really is 32-bit-only. There's not much hardware that's
been manufactured in the last 15 years that is.
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339[02:19:10] <[BNC]dimitry7> themill, well, lscpu
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340[02:19:21] <[BNC]dimitry7> says: CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit
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341[02:19:22] <themill> (I'm assuming i386 vs amd64 here)
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343[02:20:53] <themill> looking for the "lm" flag in
/proc/cpuinfo or checking the processor specs based on the model
would possibly be more reliable
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344[02:21:10] <[BNC]dimitry7> Oh yeah, you're right
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345[02:21:29] <[BNC]dimitry7> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae
mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx
fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc
arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf
pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr
pdcm pcid dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes
xsave avx lahf_lm ida arat xsaveopt pln pts dtherm t
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346[02:21:29] <[BNC]dimitry7> pr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept
vpid
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347[02:21:33] <[BNC]dimitry7> it's there
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349[02:22:14] <simonlnu> there's that lahf_lm (what, it
lahfs at the lm? O_o)
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352[02:22:40] <[BNC]dimitry7> simonlnu, I don't understand
you haha
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353[02:22:53] <simonlnu> (couldn't help it, had to make a
joke with that ;)
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354[02:23:05] <[BNC]dimitry7> hahaha
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355[02:23:09] <themill> Still, changing kernel might be far more
invasive than you want for setting up some monitoring
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356[02:23:13] * simonlnu shuts up and stops being distracting
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358[02:23:44] <themill> .cookie simonlnu
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360[02:23:52] <themill> EBOT
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361[02:24:05] <simonlnu> !cookie simonlnu
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362[02:24:06] <[BNC]dimitry7> haha, well yes. I'll monitor
it from the other host
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365[02:24:14] <[BNC]dimitry7> don't wanna mess up with the
kernel
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370[02:26:25] <simonlnu> yeah. i don't mess with things
until i understand them enough. but sometimes i do, but then we
learn from mistakes, too. :)
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372[02:26:53] <simonlnu> (it's wise to listen to themill,
he's got it)
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373[02:27:26] <[BNC]dimitry7> simonlnu, yeah, he's good,
and I'll put your quote on my whats app!
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377[02:29:45] <meta-x> Hello! How difficult is the process of
building an old upstream of Python into a Debian binary?
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383[02:32:18] <meta-x> I need IDLE running Python version 2.6.9.
:(
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392[02:34:46] <themill> meta-x: building your own stuff into
/opt/ would be better than trying to mess with the packages. Make
sure that python is nowhere on your $PATH though.
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393[02:34:56] <themill> (also, why on earth?)
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412[02:43:49] <techrex> hey all
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413[02:44:21] <techrex> quick question
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416[02:44:51] <techrex> How come Debian takes so long to unlock
once the screen locks?
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417[02:45:05] <techrex> What is it that causes that?
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420[02:46:22] <Spec> technohehl: mine is quick!
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429[02:55:31] <meta-x> themill: Class purposes.
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510[03:30:31] <roottoo> I have this problen with mpd
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513[03:31:02] <roottoo> when I shutdown mpd hangs for 1.5 minute
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524[03:32:18] <at0m> roottoo: what's with the nick change?
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530[03:32:35] <at0m> time systemctl mpd stop
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536[03:33:00] <at0m> you said it was mpd unrelated
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541[03:33:11] <at0m> ... in #mpd
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546[03:33:17] <roottoo> Unknown operation 'mpd'.
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547[03:33:17] <roottoo> real 0m0.007s
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548[03:33:17] <roottoo> user 0m0.000s
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549[03:33:17] <roottoo> sys 0m0.000s
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553[03:33:46] <at0m> so mpd stops in 7µs. that's too
long for you?
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554[03:33:54] <at0m> err ms
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556[03:34:23] <roottoo> .
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557[03:34:42] <at0m> cut the mpd.
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558[03:34:43] <roottoo> .
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560[03:34:51] <jmcnaught> roottoo: it would be "systemctl
stop mpd" not "systemd mpd stop". also please use a
paste site :)
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561[03:35:20] <roottoo> .
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564[03:36:03] <roottoo> systemctl stop mpd does the job
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565[03:36:33] <roottoo> so I can make a script systemctl stop
mpd && poweroff
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567[03:37:24] <jmcnaught> roottoo: did you time it?
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568[03:37:30] <roottoo> no
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569[03:37:57] <roottoo> I can not powewroff at the moment
because of a backup-task
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571[03:38:26] <jmcnaught> roottoo: the suggestion was that you
time how long it takes to stop mpd as a troubleshooting step
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575[03:39:29] <roottoo> time is < 1 second
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577[03:41:01] <Packet_Surf> sup roottoo
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579[03:41:53] <roottoo> no not < 1 second
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580[03:42:13] <roottoo> keeps playing
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585[03:43:51] <roottoo> systemctl stop mpd doesn't stop at
all the music
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587[03:45:11] <at0m> are you playing via mpd or moc?
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588[03:45:28] <roottoo> moc I don't use
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590[03:45:31] <Packet_Surf> insnt there a mp123 or someting
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591[03:45:38] <Packet_Surf> its like console
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592[03:45:40] <roottoo> only mpd and gmpc
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594[03:45:53] <roottoo> no mp123
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596[03:46:04] <Packet_Surf> yeah thats pretty cool if u like
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597[03:46:18] <markybob> it's mpg123 not mp123
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598[03:46:25] <at0m> roottoo: to play ugly, "killall -9
mpd" does stop the music ok?
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600[03:46:37] <roottoo> long ago i used that
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603[03:47:16] <roottoo> killall -9 mpd yes direct
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606[03:47:58] <roottoo> mpd start it again luckely
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609[03:48:40] <at0m> and your shutdown problem was?
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610[03:48:49] <roottoo> it hangs
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611[03:48:55] <roottoo> 1,5 minute
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614[03:49:33] <RippyDippy> has anyone tried putting Alexa on
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615[03:49:35] <at0m> so i'd sytsemctl poweroff service by
service, to monitor the times it takes
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620[03:50:48] <Packet_Surf> linux pi
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621[03:50:53] <Packet_Surf> isnt that the new thing
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622[03:50:53] <roottoo> it takes 1,5 minutes, although music
stops within a second
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623[03:50:59] <at0m> roottoo: no, i'm having popcorn in the
oven, and it starts to pop.
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624[03:51:38] <roottoo> have a nice break!
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625[03:51:40] <RippyDippy> Packet_Surf: I dunno, Amazon opened
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626[03:52:01] <Packet_Surf> rasperry pi
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628[03:52:10] <RippyDippy> Packet_Surf: Yes
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632[03:52:38] <at0m> RippyDippy: #raspbian probably?
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634[03:53:20] <at0m> and yes, i'm looking forward to native
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636[03:53:35] <jmcnaught> i don't use mpd, but presumably
it has logs that can be checked. enabling persistent journald and
checking the end of the journal from the previous boot might also
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637[03:53:38] <roottoo> native debian?
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643[03:54:59] <roottoo> it is a systemd problem
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645[03:55:25] <d3f4alt> yo
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646[03:55:32] <roottoo> 1.5 minutes is systemd
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668[04:03:02] <asarch> Can you install an oldstable packate to a
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669[04:03:16] <asarch> It seems that this is the only available
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blackbox io benchmarking of filesystems? e.g. Let's say I have
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don't care that zfs has some sneaky optimizations, I don't
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804[05:02:51] <simonlnu> asarch: in texas?
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808[05:03:37] <asarch> Texas?
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810[05:03:56] <simonlnu> tex-mex, tex-emacs ... ok, bad joke
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812[05:04:49] <simonlnu> i haven't seen texmacs in debian
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813[05:04:59] <simonlnu> ,v texmacs
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814[05:05:00] <judd> Package: texmacs on amd64 -- squeeze:
1:1.0.7.4-3.1; wheezy: 1:1.0.7.15-2; experimental: 1:1.99.1-3
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816[05:05:07] <simonlnu> oh, my mistake
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818[05:05:17] <simonlnu> asarch: ^^^^
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819[05:05:25] <waterCreature> hi, how do i set up the wifi for
wpa2 enterprise network
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821[05:05:38] <simonlnu> not in jessie, stretch or sid though
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822[05:05:42] <asarch> lol :-D
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823[05:05:43] <waterCreature> i am following this linkreplaced-url
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824[05:05:45] <asarch> Thank you!
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825[05:05:50] <asarch> Thank you very much
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826[05:05:53] <simonlnu> np
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827[05:05:55] <markybob> waterCreature:
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828[05:06:07] <asarch> Actually, all I need was to convert a
file to LaTeX
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842[05:12:17] <roottoo> yes
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867[05:36:02] <doubletwist> so in jessie, using open-iscsi and
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868[05:36:08] <doubletwist> Not until I manually run iscsiadm -m
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869[05:36:24] <doubletwist> what am I missing to get it to log
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899[05:55:47] <karlpinc> doubletwist: What does "systemctl
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900[05:56:00] <karlpinc> doubletwist: Perhaps see also the
readme.debian.
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901[05:56:02] <karlpinc> !readme.debian
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902[05:56:02] <dpkg> README.Debian (or README.Debian.gz) is a
document found in the /usr/share/doc/$packagename/ which explains
any Debian specific details in the package's operation or
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913[06:02:57] <dakotawhitis> Anyone else hate debian?
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958[06:25:59] <dakotawhitis> Why did firefox have to be
rebranded for Debian?
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961[06:27:19] <TomTomTosch> dakotawhitis, it doesn't.
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962[06:28:00] <dakotawhitis> There wasn't a requirement? It
seems strange for IceWeasel to be installed natively, instead of
firefox
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963[06:28:16] <simonlnu> dakotawhitis: are you always that dumb?
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966[06:29:36] <hank53>
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994[06:51:19] <gtristan> Hi, I'm trying to install F23
aarch64 with virt-manager on debian (it's debian stretch, but I
doubt that's very relevant)... all I can find on the web are
pages explaining how to do it on a fedora host
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995[06:51:57] <gtristan> so... I have the installer iso, and am
launching virt-manager but am missing an uefi firmware for aarch64
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998[06:53:03] <gtristan> I find some instructions for installing
that firmware here:
replaced-url
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999[06:53:22] <gtristan> any idea how I can install that same
firmware for virt-install to find on debian ?
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1039[07:15:49] <jmcnaught> gtristan: there is a qemu-system-arm
package, it doesn't seem to have the UEFI firmware talked about
in your link though. booting the VM with UEFI is the only option?
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1040[07:16:40] <gtristan> jmcnaught, the only option for running
the installer yeah
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1047[07:18:10] <gtristan> otherwise I need a disk image, which I
dont really have (actually I'm trying to get a head start on
this project which will involve real aarch64 hardware with F23
installed, just wanted to start work in advance of the server guys
getting that thing started)
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1048[07:18:24] <gtristan> I find this:
replaced-url
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1050[07:18:40] <gtristan> which is the images apparently, but it
comes in rpm-foo only it seems :-S
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1056[07:21:42] <jmcnaught> gtristan: it looks like there are
licensing issues with that EDK2 which is probably with neither
Fedora or Debian include them. Maybe there's a third-party
Debian repo with them somewhere, or you might be able to put them in
/usr/local and craft a libvirt domain XML that uses them
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1061[07:24:53] <jmcnaught> gtristan:
replaced-url
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1064[07:26:27] <jmcnaught> gtristan: there's also a ovmf
package made from the same edk2 source package in sid
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1067[07:27:02] <gtristan> looks like (from qemu.conf and related
docs) all I am needing is AAVMF_CODE.fd and AAVMF_VARS.fd... not
sure of those need to be built for my arch or what exactly...
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1069[07:27:21] <gtristan> oh I have installed that indeed
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1072[07:27:38] <gtristan> that gives me a
/usr/share/qemu-efi/QEMU_EFI.fd
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1073[07:27:44] <hank53> oh i see iceweasel is being renamed to
firefox again. glad to hear the issues with debian have been
resolved
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1075[07:29:14] <gtristan> ah interesting, there is the ovmf
package available, but not the aavmf
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1082[07:30:38] <d3f4alt> Yo
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1083[07:30:53] <d3f4alt> I have a bit of a problem with the
debian install
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1085[07:31:21] <d3f4alt> Its been stuck on scanning the mirror
for like 15 mins now
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1087[07:32:45] <jmcnaught> d3f4alt: does it look like it's
making any progress? If you switch to tty4 with Alt+F4 (Ctrl+Alt+F4
in the graphical installer) there will be more details.
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1089[07:33:29] <d3f4alt> Nope
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1090[07:33:36] <d3f4alt> Just sitting there
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1092[07:34:16] <jmcnaught> d3f4alt: which iso are you using for
the install? can you go back and choose a different mirror?
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1096[07:34:43] <d3f4alt> Ill try one sec
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1098[07:35:32] <d3f4alt> How do I exit tty4 modd
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1099[07:35:36] <d3f4alt> Mode*
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1102[07:36:12] <d3f4alt> Wait nvm
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1104[07:36:41] <d3f4alt> Got it
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1105[07:37:26] <d3f4alt> Tried to cancel, no luck so far
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1108[07:37:58] <d3f4alt> I cant currently go back to get a new
iso
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1109[07:38:16] <d3f4alt> I just burned it like 20 mins or so ago
tho
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1110[07:38:32] <jmcnaught> d3f4alt: which ISO is it? A live cd?
Jessie?
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1111[07:39:05] <d3f4alt> Its BunsenLabs Hydrogen, but its based
off of jessie and yes it is a live cd
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1112[07:39:07] <gtristan> nope, edk2 project _only_ builds the
open virtual machine firmware, which "enables UEFI support for
Ia32 and X64 Virtual Machines" (/me guesses X64 is meant to be
amd64/x86_64)
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1113[07:39:38] <gtristan> alright, looks like the aavmf is some
obscure thing I cant even seem to find sources for :-/
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1115[07:40:01] <jmcnaught> d3f4alt: derivatives aren't
supported here, only Debian is. You'll need to check with the
BunsenLabs support, or try using Debian instead :)
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1116[07:40:24] <d3f4alt> Ran out of disks sadly
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1119[07:40:53] <jmcnaught> d3f4alt: you can use a USB stick, even
a small one will do with the debian netinst image
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1120[07:41:08] <d3f4alt> Cant do rn
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1121[07:42:15] <jmcnaught> gtristan: those rpms you linked to
earlier must have an upstream source they're built from
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1123[07:42:26] <d3f4alt> My main computer just barfed all over
and the hard drive is wiped, im trying to get back on to my laptop
buy i cant seem to install anthing on it right now
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1124[07:42:44] <d3f4alt> Ive tried my other disk too, it had kali
on it
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1125[07:43:15] <gtristan> jmcnaught, indeed, good point
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1128[07:44:00] <gtristan> project origin is hard to track, maybe
it's developed at redhat and as such lives upstream *as* an rpm
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1130[07:44:23] <darxmurf> hi all
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1131[07:44:28] <jmcnaught> d3f4alt: that's too bad.
you'll just have to wait for bunsenlabs support to get back to
you, or wait until you can get another disk for a proper Debian
installer image. If you check the Debian installation manual there
are a few other install methods you could try, like installing
Debian from an existing Linux system (a bit more difficult), or
doing a PXE network boot. Anyways best of luck.
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1133[07:44:49] <d3f4alt> Thanks
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1135[07:45:50] <d3f4alt> People have said the debian community is
horrible but im getting great support :D
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1143[07:50:02] <d3f4alt> What desktop enviroment does debian use
as a default?
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1144[07:50:33] <txdv> gnoaaam?
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1145[07:50:41] <d3f4alt> Okay
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1146[07:51:15] <jmcnaught> d3f4alt: the installer lets you choose
from i think six different options, it picks gnome if you say you
want a DE but don't pick a specific one
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1148[07:51:46] <d3f4alt> jmcnaught: okay thanks
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1149[07:52:16] <d3f4alt> I would use gnome but its too slow on my
laptop
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1151[07:52:37] <d3f4alt> I need to get a new laptop badly
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1153[07:54:00] <gtristan> omg
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1155[07:54:07] <gtristan>
replaced-url
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1156[07:54:14] <gtristan> when will these guys learn
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1157[07:54:38] <gtristan> list of patches, spec file, tarball of
upstream edk2
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1158[07:54:43] <gtristan> jaysus
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you install; there isn't really much of a "default"
and it doesn't really count for much.
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1234[08:33:07] <Martyn> Hey, does anyone know why the Release
file in squeeze-backports is no longer valid?
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1237[08:33:37] <Martyn> "Valid-Until: Sun, 20 Mar 2016
09:02:33 UTC"
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1239[08:34:22] <themill> Martyn: because squeeze is no longer a
supported release
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1240[08:34:31] <Martyn> squeeze-lts
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1241[08:34:47] <themill> same answer
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1242[08:34:55] <Martyn> and even if it's not
"supported" the Release file is automatically generated,
isn't it?
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1243[08:35:01] <Martyn> because it's still on backports, and
in mirrors
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1244[08:35:20] <themill> squeeze isn't on the mirrors any
more and backports is scheduled for removal
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1245[08:35:51] <themill> (resources are removed from mirrors
slowly so that they don't get confused by mass deletions)
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1251[08:37:44] <Martyn> Well, crapo
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1252[08:37:50] <Martyn> glad I have a local mirror
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1306[09:14:07] <themill> Martyn: I assume you realise that having
a local mirror doesn't make it a supported release. The bonus 2
years of squeeze-lts (partial) security support was there to give
you more time to move to wheezy with the intention that should all
be completed at least a month ago (as per the advertised dates for
support).
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1336[09:28:46] <venkat_330> I have a debian 8 compiled binary and
trying to run it under debian 6. When i try to ru nthe application i
get an error : symbol lookup error : g_thread_create. (ldd -v info
is attached). request some guidance. i am trying to maintain single
binary across all debian platforms.
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1342[09:29:58] <towo^work> venkat_330, i think, this will not
work because of the different libstdcc++ versions
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1343[09:30:42] <towo^work> also the libc6 differs
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1344[09:31:03] <towo^work> and you can't run apps build
against a new libc6 on older versions
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1347[09:32:52] <venkat_330> towo^work: what is your opinion on
vice-versa
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1348[09:33:40] <towo^work> build on the oldes system and hope it
works on newer versions
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1349[09:33:45] <towo^work> *oldest
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1350[09:33:57] <venkat_330> so is there no scope for common
binary across X86 (i386) versions
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1351[09:34:47] <towo^work> maybe a static linked version but
i'm not a programmer
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1382[09:46:49] <sep> good morning [UTC] ; i have a debian jessie
with a xfs filesystem. the disk went fubar. so now my dmesg and
syslog is filling with lines of " XFS (sdb1): xfs_log_force:
error 5 returned." about 10 every second. how can i make xfs
give up on this disk and just stop trying, without having to reboot?
i tried xfs_io -x -c shutdown, but it wants a mountpoint and not a
device;
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1399[09:51:08] <atralheaven> Hi
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1401[09:51:22] <atralheaven> I want to set a cronjob to be done
everyday at 12AM, I used an online tool to generate it, it said
"* 12 * * * command" but now its running the command every
minute since 12AM!
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1413[09:54:33] <themill> atralheaven: the first * means
"every". Also 12 means 12pm (noon) not 12am (midnight).
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1414[09:55:34] <atralheaven> sorry, 12pm
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1415[09:55:50] <atralheaven> so I should enter 0 in minute?
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1417[09:55:53] <themill> yeah, I guessed that -- English is
silly.
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1418[09:55:55] <themill> yes
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1419[09:55:55] <sep> atralheaven, the numbers are "minutes
hour day of month month day of week" 0 12 * * * is what you
want
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1420[09:56:04] <atralheaven> thanks :)
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1444[10:02:58] <sep> nobody know how to make linux stop trying to
write the xfs log to a dead device ? " XFS (sdb1):
xfs_log_force: error 5 returned." is looping 10 a second in
syslog on a dead device
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1565[10:38:44] <|DM|_> Hello, Im having an issue with dual-screen
dimming
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1566[10:39:09] <|DM|_> At the login screen, the secondary screen
is dimmed. Before, after I logged in that would revert
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1568[10:39:21] <|DM|_> But now its permanently dimmed. I have
tried restarting etc already.
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1573[10:40:18] <|DM|_> Im using debian8/cinnamon
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1582[10:44:09] <MrDetonia> How can I change the default python to
be python3.4? Can I simply remove /usr/bin/python and symlink it to
python3.4?
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1583[10:44:24] <|DM|_> yep
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1584[10:44:35] <MrDetonia> alright thanks; didn't want apt
to shout at me
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1585[10:44:36] <themill> MrDetonia: no, don't do that
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1586[10:44:37] <|DM|_> or you could set an updatealternatives
rule
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1587[10:44:38] <MrDetonia> oh
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1588[10:44:46] <MrDetonia> which updatealterns is it?
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1589[10:45:01] <|DM|_> none, you'd have to set the rule
yourself
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1590[10:45:11] <MrDetonia> ah, okay I'll need to look into
that
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1591[10:45:11] <themill> MrDetonia: Python 2 and Python 3 are not
interchangeable.
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1593[10:45:36] <themill> No, don't do that. You will break
every single python using package.
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1595[10:45:54] <themill> MrDetonia: what are you actually trying
to achieve?
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1596[10:45:56] <MrDetonia> themill: I can try to remove python2
and see if I have stuff depending on it first
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1597[10:46:11] <MrDetonia> I just don't use python2
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1598[10:46:19] <MrDetonia> if it's going to break stuff
I'll leave it as is though
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1601[10:49:52] <MrDetonia> okay, new problem; pip defaults to 2.7
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1602[10:50:06] <MrDetonia> is there a way to make it use 3.4, or
a 3.4 specific version?
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1606[10:50:35] <themill> use pip3
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1607[10:50:46] <MrDetonia> command not found
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1609[10:51:02] <themill> install it -- python3-pip
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1610[10:51:18] <MrDetonia> ah, that's what tripped me up
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1611[10:51:25] <MrDetonia> I was searching for python-pip
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1612[10:51:36] <themill> that would be the Python 2 package
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1637[10:57:54] <MaBunny> hey guys
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1638[10:58:12] <MaBunny> so,i installed a firewall called
apf-firewall
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1640[10:58:37] <MaBunny> i also checked its config file,and made
necessary changes
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1643[10:59:01] <MaBunny> but when i start the firewall,it doesnt
show up on my system monitor
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1645[10:59:14] <MaBunny> do you guys hav tried using it b4?
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1651[11:00:44] <MaBunny> i just checked now,i had listed
irc.freenode.net to connect to only in the firewall
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1657[11:01:29] <MaBunny> oh leave it,i didnt block tht address
anyways
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1658[11:01:46] <MaBunny> but why isnt it showing up in my system
monitor,pls tell
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1666[11:07:04] <Rephlexie> add 'SET_VERBOSE' to the
conf and tail the log
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1667[11:07:13] <MaBunny> ok
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1669[11:07:44] <MaBunny> set verbose is enabled
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1671[11:08:08] <MaBunny> i want to "see" the program
running
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1672[11:08:09] <hanshenrik__> i have a bunch of files i want to
add to a tarball, with folder paths intact, any easy way to do that?
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1673[11:08:18] <hanshenrik__> i find the files like this: find /
| grep -i initrd
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1675[11:08:29] <hanshenrik__> then all the files filepaths go to
stdout
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1676[11:08:38] <themill> MaBunny: what do you want to see and why
do you think there is anything to see?
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1677[11:08:46] <MaBunny> tar -czvf ./this ./foo newtar.tar.gz
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1678[11:09:05] <Rephlexie> MaBunny, there are some others, the
readme is really detailed for once
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1679[11:09:12] <hanshenrik__> tar -czvf $(find / | grep -i
initrd)
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1680[11:09:13] <hanshenrik__> maybe?
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1681[11:09:25] <MaBunny> well,i think the apf-firewall isnt
running
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1682[11:09:33] <hanshenrik__> tar -czvf $(find / | grep -i
initrd) newtar.tar.gz
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1683[11:09:43] <MaBunny> idk
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1684[11:09:44] <themill> MaBunny: what should be
"running"?
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1685[11:09:55] <MaBunny> apf-firewall,when i start it
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1686[11:10:15] <themill> why? a firewall is a set of rules
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1687[11:10:38] <themill> hanshenrik__: tar's --files-from
option will be useful for you
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1688[11:10:50] <MaBunny> i typeapf -s and it shows it has started
up,but the program isnt shown on the system monitor
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1689[11:11:09] <themill> it shows that the firewall rules were
loaded
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1690[11:11:28] <MaBunny> then it has started,right?
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1703[11:20:04] <Urchin> MaBunny: firewall isn't an app on
linux
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1707[11:20:25] <MaBunny> oh,i see
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1709[11:20:35] <MaBunny> so what is it?
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1711[11:21:32] <Urchin>
replaced-url
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1713[11:21:41] <Urchin>
replaced-url
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1715[11:22:30] <Urchin> it's really something that kernel
does
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1716[11:22:36] <Rephlexie> you try running it via init.d/apf
start etc etc?
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1718[11:23:04] <MaBunny> yes,apf -s
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1720[11:23:33] <user_9753>
replaced-url
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1723[11:23:57] <no_gravity> Hello! I wonder why I have packet
loss between my computer and my wifi router. How would you guys go
about debuggin this?
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1759[11:41:49] <venkat_330> is there any GTK-3 pre compiled deb
package avaiable for debian 6
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1760[11:41:51] <venkat_330> ??
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1768[11:43:22] <sleepypikachu> I have a server on localhost,
I'd like to expose that server so it's accessible on the
same port on my eth1 interface. How can I achieve this?
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1769[11:43:26] <hanshenrik__> what exactly is "loading
ramdisk"?
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1772[11:43:38] <hanshenrik__> when botting, coming at
"loading ramdisk", and it just freeze forever
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1773[11:43:41] <hanshenrik__> booting*
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1774[11:44:02] <hanshenrik__> wups
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1775[11:44:06] <hanshenrik__> "loading initial ramdisk"
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1777[11:44:45] <hanshenrik__> venkat_330, im sure the old repos
are still around, even though the urls have changed
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1778[11:44:57] <sleepypikachu> hanshenrik__: I ramdisk is a
virtual file system which lives in memory.
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1782[11:45:04] <hanshenrik__> the official debian 6 repos was
closed like 6 days ago though
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1783[11:45:07] <deanc> Hi. Im having troubles running an apt-get
update:
replaced-url
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1784[11:45:16] <hanshenrik__> or 4 days? not sure
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1787[11:45:33] <hanshenrik__> or at least moved to a different
url
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1790[11:45:54] <hanshenrik__> sleepypikachu, yeah
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1792[11:46:03] <hanshenrik__> any idea why it would freeze at
that point in booting tho?
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1796[11:47:11] <infratom> Can I download from paste.debian.net,
or can I only copy/paste?
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1797[11:47:27] <sleepypikachu> hanshenrik__: Perhaps the disk is
corrupt? That's a guess though.
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1798[11:47:29] <hanshenrik__> infratom, you can wget the
"raw" url
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1799[11:47:36] <hanshenrik__> sleepypikachu, no that ain't
it
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1803[11:47:51] <venkat_330> hanshenrik__: can you give me deb 6
repos link please
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1804[11:47:52] <hanshenrik__> when i install it from the hosting
providers package, everything is fine, and i have the same problem
on 2x servers
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1807[11:48:45] <hanshenrik__> venkat_330, sorry, i don't
know any, but google it, perhaps "debian 6 repo mirror"
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1809[11:49:05] <infratom> hanshenrik__: Ah, how to I get the raw
url?
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1811[11:49:24] <hanshenrik__> infratom, how do you upload it?
using pastebinit or the web interface?
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1812[11:49:51] <infratom> hanshenrik__: I usually just
pastebinit, but this is from someone else
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1813[11:50:10] <hanshenrik__> i modified pastebinit to give the
raw url instead by default -
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1814[11:50:20] <hanshenrik__> also note that the paste.debian.org
maintainer is a lazy idiot
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1815[11:50:23] <hanshenrik__> or bastard
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1816[11:50:32] <hanshenrik__> probably both
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1817[11:50:43] <hanshenrik__> brb
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1818[11:50:50] <infratom> hanshenrik__: Ah doh :) So any way I
can convert the plain url I have recieved to raw?
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1821[11:51:23] <jelly> dpkg, tell venkat_330 about squeeze
sources.list
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1823[11:51:51] <hanshenrik__> infratom, yes, open the url in your
browser, you will see a "raw" button, copy the url of the
raw button
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1825[11:52:18] <hanshenrik__> alternatively... curl url | grep -i
"/raw"
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1826[11:52:24] <hanshenrik__> should also work i guess
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1833[11:53:07] <infratom> hanshenrik__: Ah crap, uMatrix must
have been hiding it - Sorry for the noise :)
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1835[11:53:34] <infratom> hanshenrik__: That or I am blind
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1836[11:53:38] <themill> hanshenrik__: it's paste.debian.net
and you'd be well advised to stick to things you know about
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1838[11:54:58] <hanshenrik__> themill, what i know about
paste.debian.net is that 1: you MUST have newlines in whatever you
paste, or you will get an error "thanks to some spammers,
newlines are now required", sure you can force newlines to any
paste you upload, but it borders on data corruption
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1839[11:55:22] <hanshenrik__> themill, 2: it has a high false
positive "spam detect", with a "if this was a false
positive, please contact <mail>"
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1840[11:55:28] <hanshenrik__> the guy never responds
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1841[11:55:35] <hanshenrik__> been like that for over 2 years
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1843[11:55:50] <infratom> hanshenrik__: lol, yup uMatrix blocked
those links - sorry ;)
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1844[11:56:00] <themill> hanshenrik__: if it's one line, it
doesn't need a pastebin.
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1846[11:56:40] <themill> and in the many thousands of times
I've used it, it has never incorrectly flagged anything of mine
as spam; your different experience does not mean that the maintainer
is lazy or anything else though
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1850[11:58:13] <hanshenrik__> have you ever pastedbined anything
that contains urls?
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1851[11:58:22] <hanshenrik__> i think that's what the spam
detect has most problems with
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1852[11:58:34] <themill> sure
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1856[12:00:09] <MaBunny> hey guys
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1857[12:00:32] <hanshenrik__> ><themill> and in the many
thousands of times I've used it, it has never incorrectly
flagged anything of mine as spam; your different experience does not
mean that the maintainer is lazy or anything else though
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1858[12:00:34] <hanshenrik__> that's amazing
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1859[12:00:40] <MaBunny> is thereany free upto-date antivirus
software i can use on debian?
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1860[12:00:54] <themill> hanshenrik__: the last part of that
point is the most important, by the way
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1861[12:00:57] <jelly> MaBunny: there's the usual clamav
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1864[12:01:08] <MaBunny> is it upto-date?
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1865[12:01:23] <jelly> an outdated AV would be useless
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1866[12:01:48] <hanshenrik__> themill, using newliens as a way to
block malicious users, that sounds pretty stupid to me
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1867[12:01:56] <MaBunny> i hav used a prev version of kaspersky
of the 2011 version
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1869[12:02:22] <MaBunny> wheres the clamav package,in the repos?
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1870[12:02:44] <jelly> MaBunny: yes.
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1871[12:02:50] <MaBunny> ok
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1872[12:03:37] <jelly> see also clamav-unofficial-sigs
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1874[12:04:17] <MaBunny> is tht a package?
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1875[12:04:31] <cooldharma06> 1hi all
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1881[12:05:01] <cooldharma06> i am trying to connect my remote
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1882[12:05:06] <cooldharma06> any suggestions
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1883[12:05:20] <themill> cooldharma06: how about the ones that
jm_ made?
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1886[12:06:28] <cooldharma06> i am reading that one also
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1892[12:08:28] <cooldharma06> themil they told to edit
~/.vnc/startup script
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1897[12:11:24] <cooldharma06> sorry i reinstalled tightvncserver
its working fine..:-D
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1900[12:12:39] <MaBunny> Rephlexie,by the way how do i set apf to
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1901[12:12:56] <MaBunny> and block all the rest of them,can you
tell me?
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1903[12:13:36] <MaBunny> is it has something to do with the ip
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1911[12:16:54] <Rephlexie> pretty sure the statefull rules will
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1912[12:17:41] <MaBunny> well,can you hint me on how to set a
"range" in the flag option of the apf conf file
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1913[12:18:01] <MaBunny> like 000.000.000.000 to 255.255.255.255
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1914[12:18:26] <MaBunny> something like tht,i dont kno too much
of networks,also i checked their website
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1918[12:20:34] <Rephlexie> should be an allow .rules in your
/etc/apf
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1923[12:22:04] <Rephlexie> apf -a 192.168.1.0/24 "LAN"
might work too
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1925[12:22:48] <Rephlexie> shootin in the dark though, not the
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1927[12:22:58] <MaBunny> yeah
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1938[12:28:49] <MaBunny> theres a thing about tcp/udp ports,but i
cant find the one about ip addresses
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1939[12:28:59] <MaBunny> in the conf.apf file
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1941[12:30:26] <MaBunny> hey Rephlexie,what does TCR_PORTS do?
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1943[12:31:14] <Rephlexie> Traceroute options
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1944[12:31:24] <MaBunny> whats tht?
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1945[12:31:54] <Rephlexie> network tool,
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1947[12:33:05] <MaBunny> well,does it allow to block ip addresses
in a range?
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1950[12:34:43] <MaBunny> or should i just block a address by apf
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1957[12:37:49] <Rephlexie> i dont quite know how apf generates
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1958[12:38:13] <MaBunny> ok,is it in python?
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2050[13:27:52] <tux_cat> is it good practice using a newer kernel
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2052[13:29:06] <rozie> tux_cat: no. because "don't fix
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2053[13:29:26] <ksk> tux_cat: Im not a friend of backports, but
in general you can run debian with another kernel (with some
restrictions..)
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2054[13:29:26] <tux_cat> rozie, it's an old kernel though
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2055[13:29:47] <tux_cat> also my wifi is a bit flakey with the
stock kernel
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2056[13:29:58] <sypher> tux_cat: No, it's an old version
number. Security updates and so forth are backported already.
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2057[13:30:01] <donoban> tux_cat: if you don't need any
freature / hardware support, you don't get too much benefit
swtiching kernel
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2058[13:30:10] <rozie> oh. if it's desktop and you have real
need to upgrade - sure, go ahead
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2060[13:31:07] <rozie> I even run kernels from unstable on my
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2061[13:31:23] <rozie> and full unstable on my private desktop
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2062[13:31:25] <tux_cat> why does it take ages for debian to
update it's kernel though?
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2063[13:31:48] <tux_cat> and what happens if the stock kernel is
not fit for purpose
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2064[13:32:00] <rozie> that's because of policy of not
changing package version after release of stable
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2067[13:32:15] <tux_cat> which is kinda ridiculous as a policy
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2068[13:32:30] <rozie> no it's not
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2069[13:32:47] <tux_cat> i mean, kernel version should be updated
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2071[13:33:00] <rozie> and I see no problem in using newer kernel
verison *if needed*
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2072[13:33:00] <donoban> why?
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2077[13:34:00] <donoban> I think just opposite, the kernel is one
piece of software with more capacity of having side effects
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2078[13:34:24] <donoban> update your music player or chat
software everyday if you want, it won't break too much if
something goes wrong
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wireless mouse for my laptop but I can't use it. That's
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2115[13:56:13] <zinx> malademental: it has an invalid report
descriptor...
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2116[13:56:48] <malademental> zinx: Should I ask on the
"invalid report" channel so?
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2117[13:57:08] <zinx> malademental: you can browse
replaced-url
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2118[13:57:21] <malademental> ow yeah
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2119[13:57:42] <malademental> the device is broken on gnu/linux
only
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2122[13:57:48] <malademental> should I precise
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2127[13:59:04] <zinx> malademental: no, the device is broken
everywhere, it just happens to work on some other OSs :P
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2129[13:59:32] <malademental> Muhaha
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2130[13:59:45] <malademental> I'll never buy that kind of
crap again
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2167[14:13:43] <ChrisH> I am seeing issues with Windows 10
exported shares, when accessing from Debian as client via
/usr/bin/smbclient "\\\\SYSTEM\\SHARE" -U username -E -W
workgroup
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2171[14:14:42] <ChrisH> I can connect but ls or du fail with
"cli_list: Error: unable to parse name from info level
260" On previous Win7 it worked. Anyone to confirm this? I did
not find any bug report or similar, so far.
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2211[14:34:47] <wewlad> hello debs, could you advise a GUI-based
ftp client?
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2229[14:43:26] <ksk> !tell wewlad about ftp
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2231[14:43:42] <ksk> eh, not exactly
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2232[14:43:51] <wewlad> yeah
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2233[14:43:54] <ksk> !tell wewlad about ftp must die
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2236[14:44:09] <wewlad> ksk: that's not helpful
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2237[14:44:12] <spleen> Hi all. What is the path to access to the
file that we open when we run crontab -e ?
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2239[14:44:44] <themill> spleen: it's a temp file
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2243[14:45:48] <spleen> themill, i need to modify for more than
100 remote server crontab -e... so where is it ?
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2248[14:46:30] <themill> spleen: you can pipe from and too
crontab -e
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2254[14:47:24] <themill> the file open in the editor is not a
useful thing to know as it will be different every time
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2256[14:47:54] <spleen> themill, how could i use sed over crontab
-e ?
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2260[14:48:50] <themill> crontab -l | stuff | crontab - (as per
the man page)
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2261[14:48:56] <ksk> wewlad: why istn that helpful? Use ssh/scp
and if you need a GUI tool for them ask google?
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2263[14:49:14] <themill> You can always munge with
/var/spool/cron/crontabs/ if you want (but that's not what you
asked)
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2267[14:49:48] <wewlad> ksk: my site hosting provider only grants
ftp access, I know it's insecure, but that's what I have
to work with
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2268[14:49:54] <wewlad> nvm
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2269[14:50:06] <wewlad> figured out dolphin understands ftp
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2270[14:50:09] <ksk> :)
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2275[14:51:43] <txdv> sftp or plain ftp?
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2277[14:51:49] <wewlad> plain ftp :(
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2278[14:52:07] <ksk> sftp is not ftp, you wanted to say ftps ;)
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2279[14:52:16] <ksk> or fptes, that depends :D
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2280[14:52:18] <wewlad> yeah
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2281[14:52:25] <wewlad> neither sftp, nor ftps
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2282[14:52:31] <wewlad> nor ssh
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2283[14:52:58] <themill> find someone else to give money
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2284[14:53:37] <wewlad> how does file ownership work when a file
is being transferred?
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2287[14:54:27] <ChrisH> wewlad:depends on a) transfer protocol b)
setting on remote side
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2289[14:54:43] <wewlad> ChrisH: 1) ftp 2) dunno how
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2290[14:55:15] <hanshenrik__> themill, check your PMs?
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2291[14:55:32] <ksk> wewlad: the ftp user you login with is
probably mapped to a systemuser thats used to create all the files
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2295[14:56:17] <themill> hanshenrik__: why? there was nothing to
discuss.
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2297[14:56:33] <hanshenrik__> i asked you a question and you
didn't answer :p
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2299[14:57:00] <ChrisH> wewlad: several ftpd allow lots of
options to fake user/login combinations beeing mapped to different
OS users
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2311[15:01:15] <balance> hi
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2316[15:03:31] <balance> why should running a bat file result in
never ending stream of the message find: `sudo': No such file
or directory
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2317[15:03:31] <balance> ?
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2321[15:04:19] <babilen> bat file?
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2324[15:05:03] <pfote> guess he means a shell script :-)
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2325[15:05:20] <balance> I mean, does the error msg say sudo is
not found or is it saying: sudo isn't finding? babilen pfote
yes - it's form my cms for setting permissions.
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2328[15:06:25] <babilen> balance: So you have a script of some
sort (could you paste that?) and you are running it with a specific
command (which?) and the result are messages such as
"sudo': No such file or directory" ?
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2330[15:06:40] <babilen> My guess would be that you don't
have sudo installed or that the script can't find it
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2331[15:06:43] <babilen> But who knows?
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2332[15:06:48] <zwe6383> i guess it is some find ... -exec sudo
... thing
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2333[15:06:56] <balance> babilen, I'll make a proper paste
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2334[15:07:08] <babilen> zwe6383: Indeed
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2343[15:14:26] <balance> babilen,
replaced-url
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2345[15:14:46] <balance> babilen, line 88 is something what
zwe6383 said
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2346[15:15:13] <babilen> So .. do you have sudo installed?
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2349[15:17:10] <balance> babilen, nope - but that's weird. I
know that other run that script before maybe it's not available
for me. I'll check that - thanks!
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2371[15:19:16] <_0x5eb_> hi, is there something preventing an
installed package to generate a coredump? I could have my own
programs generate coredumps but not system installed ones
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2412[15:23:47] <fred1807> I on last debian with lxde. how do I
kill all the lxde/gui/openbox stuff, to have only terminal?
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2419[15:26:19] <ksk> fred1807: try service xdm stop. dont really
know if lxde used xdm, might be another login manager
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2422[15:27:03] <fred1807> ksk, killing the login manager will
kill xorg and everything else?
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2423[15:27:20] <rozie> fred1807: what do you want exactly to
achieve?
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2424[15:27:25] <ksk> Im not the desktop kind of guy but Id think
so.
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2426[15:27:34] <rozie> you can uninstall xorg etc. and reboot
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2429[15:28:09] <rozie> but if you want to get terminal (not
lxterminal, konsole etc.) just press ctrl-alt-f1
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2430[15:28:39] <rozie> depends if you want to have this change
made permanent or not
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2432[15:29:50] <bittin> New Copiers at work is running Debian :)
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2434[15:31:14] <fred1807> rozie, I want to experience Debian in a
command line only way... This machine is too slow for GUI and I am
only doing some rsync stuff
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2435[15:31:14] <fred1807> rozie, will this free the RAM memory
used by xorg?
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2438[15:31:15] <fred1807> rozie, I would like to keep lxde
enviroment just in case
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2440[15:31:38] <ChrisH> I am seeing issues with Windows 10
exported shares, when accessing from Debian as client via
/usr/bin/smbclient "\\\\SYSTEM\\SHARE" -U username -E -W
workgroup ; I can connect but ls or du fail with "cli_list:
Error: unable to parse name from info level 260" On previous
Win7 it worked. Anyone to confirm this? I did not find any bug
report or similar, so far.
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2443[15:32:07] <zwe6383> fred1807: if the X server goes away so
do the X applications connected to it
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2446[15:32:36] <thurstylark> fred1807: yes, if you disable the DM
(login manager) you can keep it from starting X and using resources.
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2450[15:33:13] <rozie> probably using rcconf (or equivalent) to
prevent running x11 and your login manager, then reboot will be
easiest and semi persistent
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2451[15:33:28] <rozie> ctrl-alt-f1 just switches to the other
console
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2453[15:33:41] <rozie> BTW what is your hardware?
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2457[15:34:05] <thurstylark> if you're running wheezy, use
systemctl disable unitname
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2458[15:34:06] <rozie> I was running lxde on 1GHz PIII with 1 GB
RAM and it was fine
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2460[15:34:36] <rozie> it was also fine on Athlon XP 1800+ with
less than 512 MB of RAM
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2479[15:38:07] <jamesl> How to make debian Jessie boot into
runelevel S from startup? I know I can do sudo init S but I need to
boot into it from the start. Is there a kernel command line
parameter I can change?
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2483[15:39:26] <jelly> jamesl: does appending " single"
to the kernel boot parameters work?
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2486[15:39:45] <jamesl> That's what I was looking for, a
kernel boot parameter. Thanks.
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2489[15:41:38] <jamesl> and is init executed in single-user mode?
I'm wrting a custom init script and need to see what resources
are available
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2490[15:43:06] <jelly> jamesl: which init system are you using
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2491[15:43:25] <jelly> systemd doesn't really have runlevels
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2492[15:43:25] <thurstylark> jamesl is on jessie, so systemd
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2494[15:43:37] <jelly> thurstylark: ", so" isn't
necessarily so
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2496[15:43:54] <thurstylark> eh?
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2497[15:44:01] <jamesl> I am using systemd, although you
shouldn't assume, it is possible to use Upstart instead.
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2498[15:44:03] <jelly> thurstylark: systemd is merely the default
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2499[15:44:19] <thurstylark> ha
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2500[15:44:20] <jelly> or sysvinit.
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2501[15:44:22] <thurstylark> *ah
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2502[15:44:32] <jelly> which does have a notion of runlevels
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2503[15:44:38] <thurstylark> nvm, then. butting out :P
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2505[15:44:57] <jamesl> but I do have runlevels, I can type
"sudo init S" and it brings it down to single user.
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2506[15:45:18] <jelly> jamesl: that's just systemd-sysv
compatibility
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2509[15:46:20] <jamesl> okay. Well anyway, if I boot into single
user and /dev/ttyAMA0 is there, does that mean it will be there for
init to use. My custom init script requires it.
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2529[15:56:48] <jelly> jamesl: as long as the hardware and the
driver is present... probably?
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2535[15:59:02] <bmomjian> I would like to mkfs my root partition
to switch it from ext3 to ext4 on Jessie. I know I can use tune2fs,
but that is not as good as mkfs. How do I do that? I assume I boot
from a Debian CD and copy the root filesystem with something like
replaced-url
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2544[16:03:54] <thurstylark> I've never heard that. why
would mkfs be better than tune2fs?
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2547[16:05:04] <Martyn> Good morning all
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2548[16:05:07] <sypher> thurstylark: I think that an ext3 fs
converted to an ext4 fs can't use extents the way a
natively-formatted ext4 fs can. But that may be old information no
longer valid.
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2549[16:05:14] <Martyn> So, since squeeze, squeeze-lts, and
squeeze-backports are no longer supported ... how long do I have to
mirror squeeze-backports locally before it's gone from the
mirrors?
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2558[16:06:24] <sypher> thurstylark: And kernel.org actually
recomments the way bmomjian wants to do it.
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2560[16:06:38] <thurstylark> huh. good to know.
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2561[16:07:04] <bmomjian> and I figure I should _know_ how to do
this, for disaster recovery.
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2562[16:07:12] <bmomjian> not good learning it during a disaster.
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2565[16:08:05] <sypher> bmomjian: Check out the
'--one-file-system' option to tar. :)
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2568[16:09:05] <sypher> bmomjian: Might greatly simplify your
work.
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2572[16:11:09] <jelly> Martyn: squeeze-backports seems to already
be archived and present under
replaced-url
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2577[16:12:18] <bmomjian> I already did this for my non-boot file
systems. sypher: --one-file-system does look useful.
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2580[16:12:28] <bmomjian> I know 'find' has that option
too.
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2600[16:16:55] <wewlad> I run it - it opens fine, but I clicks do
nothing!
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2602[16:17:18] <wewlad> but clicks*
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2604[16:17:30] <wewlad> I can only close the whole window
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2606[16:17:39] <wewlad> but closing and re-opening it -
doesn't help
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2607[16:17:48] <wewlad> nothing in that window responds to
clicks! wtf?
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2610[16:18:36] <wewlad> keyboard events work fine though
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2611[16:18:43] <wewlad> same with konqueror
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2614[16:20:15] <jamesl> what is the aptitude command where you
enter the command name and it tells you which package it's
from, ie if you gave "ls" as its argument it would respond
"coreutils" is there such a command?
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2615[16:20:52] <sypher> jamesl: I use apt-file for that.
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2620[16:22:55] <jamesl> sypher: apt-file is not installed in my
system, is there an aptitude command that does the same thing?
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2621[16:23:04] <jelly> jamesl: there's command-not-found but
it's a shell addition, not aptitude
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2623[16:23:16] <WallabyJenkins> is there any way to check for
recently created files? I am running a python script and can’t
find a file it creates so Im wondering if its creating the file and
just the path where its storing it is wrong?
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2624[16:23:22] <jelly> ,i command-not-found
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2625[16:23:23] <judd> Package command-not-found (admin, optional)
in jessie/amd64: Suggest installation of packages in interactive
bash sessions. Version: 0.2.38-1; Size: 12.7k; Installed: 144k
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2628[16:24:04] <sypher> WallabyJenkins: find can accept a ctime
parameter that can find you files created within the last X time
interval.
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2630[16:24:08] <sypher> WallabyJenkins: 'man find' for
more.
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2631[16:24:13] <WallabyJenkins> sypher: thanks!
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2633[16:24:23] <sypher> WallabyJenkins: (Mostly because I forget
the exact syntax.)
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2634[16:24:29] <WallabyJenkins> hehe no problem mate
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2636[16:25:04] <jelly> jamesl: or use packages.debian.org, or ask
the bot: /msg judd file /tetris-bsd
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2638[16:25:51] * sypher notes that for future reference...
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2643[16:28:57] <WallabyJenkins> sypher: -mmin -# is how you do it
btw in case you’re curious ;D
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2644[16:29:01] <WallabyJenkins> thanks again
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2647[16:29:57] <sypher> WallabyJenkins: Yeah, that thing. :P
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2656[16:33:12] <WallabyJenkins> also, if i change crontab I know
sudo service cron restart sucessfully incorporates the change, what
if i chagne /etc/crontab instead?
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2657[16:33:31] <WallabyJenkins> do i need a server reboot or is
restarting cron fine?
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2658[16:33:54] <Martyn> okay, reprepro is now busy making me a
local mirror of squeeze-backports
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2663[16:35:17] <WallabyJenkins> IT WORKED
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2672[16:37:24] <jelly> WallabyJenkins: you don't even need
to restart the cron service, just wait up to two minutes. On the
next minute, crond just notices the updates and loade them. Minute
after that it executes the new jobs if their schedule has come
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2673[16:37:45] <WallabyJenkins> oh wow, thanks for the tip
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2696[16:47:52] <bmomjian> So any idea on what I need to do to
grub for a mkfs on the boot drive?
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2723[17:02:06] <balance1> hi
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2728[17:03:33] <sunnid> o/
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2732[17:03:57] <balance1> how can I disbale acl? (btw,
debianhelp.co.uk got hacked, if that is an official site)
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2760[17:14:16] <gebbione> anyone can suggest how to find
php5-mbstring on debian? i can only install it as part of
libapache2-mod-php5 but this also installs apache and i dont need it
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2789[17:24:53] <jelly> ,v php5-mbstring
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2790[17:24:54] <judd> No package named 'php5-mbstring'
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2794[17:26:13] <jelly> gebbione: look at the description of
whichever php interpreter package you're using, it's
probably already there
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2799[17:27:42] <gebbione> jelly: it suggests to recompile php
with the option enabled or install a package that also installs
apache library but i dont need that. Basically there is not packaged
solution from the install page for what i need :.
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2800[17:27:45] <gebbione> :/
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2811[17:30:15] <jelly> gebbione: which php package are you using?
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2812[17:30:50] <jelly> gebbione: what suggests to recompile?
which debian release are you on?
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2813[17:31:24] <gebbione> i need mbstring, on debian it is
available in libapache2-mod-php5 but i dont need all the apache
stuff in there
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2814[17:31:56] <jelly> gebbione: it's also available in all
the other builds of php interpreter.
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2817[17:32:00] <gebbione> i am on Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l
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2818[17:32:09] <jelly> gebbione: take a look: apt-cache show
php5-cli
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2820[17:32:24] <jelly> gebbione: read the description
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2827[17:33:44] <jelly> same thing with any of php5-cgi php5-cli
php5-fpm libphp5-embed libapache2-mod-php5
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2832[17:34:41] <gebbione> jelly: i dont see it in the description
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2833[17:34:46] <gebbione> where do you see mbstring
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2834[17:35:18] <markybob> gebbione: he told you. "the
following extensions are built in"
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2835[17:35:29] <markybob> gebbione: it includes mbstring in
php5-cli
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2841[17:36:58] <jelly> gebbione: apt-cache show php5-cli | grep
--color mbstring
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2843[17:37:40] <gebbione> jelly: on my machine it returns nothing
with apt-cache show php5-cli | grep mbstring
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2844[17:38:41] <jelly> gebbione: hm, maybe you're looking at
a non-English locale with an incorrect Description
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2846[17:38:52] <jelly> gebbione: LC_ALL=C apt-cache show php5-cli
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2847[17:39:01] <jelly> gebbione: pastebin the output of that
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2857[17:41:37] <gebbione> jelly:
replaced-url
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2859[17:42:23] <gebbione> BRB
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2862[17:42:50] <jelly> gebbione: interesting, for some reason you
don't get the long description. Anyhow, install and try it.
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2886[17:45:40] <jelly> gebbione: php5 -r 'echo
mb_detect_encoding("ćevapčići")."\n";'
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2888[17:47:52] <bmomjian> It seems I have to boot from cdrom, and
once the mkfs is done and the data restored, I have to chroot to the
new partition and run update-grub, grub-install, and grub-install
--recheck. Kind of tricky.
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2889[17:48:22] <gebbione> jelly: this returns `no` -> `php -r
' if( function_exists("mb_check_encoding") ){echo
"yes";}else{echo "no";};'`
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2891[17:48:36] <gebbione> :/
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2893[17:48:51] <jelly> gebbione: php5
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2895[17:49:14] <jelly> gebbione: what does this say? dpkg -S
$(readlink -g $(which php))
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2898[17:49:54] <jelly> gebbione: maybe you have a leftover custom
php binary somewhere
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2901[17:50:18] <jelly> gebbione: sorry, dpkg -S $(readlink -f
$(which php))
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2905[17:50:37] <gebbione> dpkg-query: no path found matching
pattern /usr/local/bin/php
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2906[17:50:44] <jelly> BINGO
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2907[17:50:49] <gebbione> this is weird :/
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2909[17:50:59] <gebbione> but if i run php5 it finds mbstring
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2910[17:51:13] <gebbione> wtf :/
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2911[17:51:22] <jelly> stuff in /usr/local is not part of any
official pacakge
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2914[17:52:19] <gebbione> jelly: :/ that was really helpful
though i am unsure on what i ll do
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2915[17:52:41] <gebbione> i m using a container from the official
php docker hub and it is based on debian
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2916[17:52:48] <jelly> gebbione: get rid of /usr/local/bin/php or
use /usr/bin/php5 explicitely
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2917[17:52:50] <gebbione> i think i should install php5 manually
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2918[17:53:06] <markybob> that's what got you in this mess
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2919[17:53:08] <jelly> gebbione: that container is not debian,
ask whoever made it
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2922[17:53:26] <jelly> !based on debian
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2923[17:53:26] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
replaced-url
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2929[17:54:59] <gebbione> jelly: the distro looks like a totally
debian container -
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2930[17:55:43] <jelly> bmomjian: after editing fstab, possibly
/boot/grub/device.map, and making sure other stuff related to your
disks/block devices is updated as well (mdadm.conf if you use md
raid)
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2931[17:56:22] <jelly> gebbione: except it wasn't created by
debian developers and people in here have no idea what ELSE was put
in it
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2933[17:56:48] <jelly> that extra stuff creates a lot of issues
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2948[18:01:10] <bmomjian> It seems recovery mode on the
installation disk will do all this for me,
replaced-url
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2960[18:05:52] <bmomjian> Interestingly, device map is the device
ssn, not the file system ssn, so no need to update that: (hd0)
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-INTEL_SSDSA2CW160G3_CVPR13520CW1160DGN
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2961[18:06:05] <bmomjian> sorry, I mean not the file system uuid.
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2962[18:06:26] <bmomjian> not sure if the recovery cd mode is
better than manually doing this.
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2969[18:07:08] <jelly> it's supposed to be the device,
telling grub userspace in linux what firmware thinks is the first
disk
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2999[18:14:01] <terabit> having trouble locating the package for
mkisofs in debian
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3007[18:18:04] <bmomjian> I will do the manual chroot process,
but if that fails on boot, will use the recovery mode to fix it.
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3048[18:25:01] <mezo> is there a way in chrome to disable tab
switching by mouse scrolling?
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3051[18:25:56] <wodim> hello, why does phpmyadmin now depend on
php 7 ?
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3054[18:27:28] <unborn> okay got it :)
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3055[18:27:46] <ChrisH> unborn: read windows?
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3056[18:27:52] <ChrisH> unborn: real windows?
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3057[18:28:58] <unborn> chrisc: nah.. I need to copy from router
hdd which is small samba server to my linux virutalmin server which
runs samba as well but I wanted to do it via server from my laptop..
im in anyway :)
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3061[18:29:38] <ChrisH> unborn: OK. I am having issues against
Win10 and wanted someone to verify it.
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3062[18:30:22] <unborn> what issues?
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3064[18:30:49] <TomTomTosch> wodim, it doesn't. in jessie
it's php5, in testing either work.
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3067[18:31:20] <wodim> TomTomTosch: I have testing, with php5
installed, and it's pulling php7. What's wrong?
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3072[18:31:50] <TheIdea> is there a better ;pg watcher than
swatch?
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3073[18:31:53] <wodim> "apt-cache depends phpmyadmin"
shows a clear dependency on php7.0 unless I can't read it well.
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3074[18:31:54] <TheIdea> log
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3080[18:33:17] <unborn> ChrisH: what issues? you cannot connect?
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3083[18:33:50] <TomTomTosch> wodim, look up what you are missing.
there is a bunch to select.
replaced-url
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3089[18:35:24] <TomTomTosch> wodim, the channel for
testing/unstable is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net though.
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3090[18:35:43] <TheIdea> is there a good chat for setting up a
server?
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3091[18:36:10] <wodim> TomTomTosch: is it possible to know why is
it choosing to pull php7? i.e. what php5 package am I missing
instead of having to check them one by one
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3092[18:36:15] <blind> What kind of server?
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3093[18:36:41] <johnkeates> what kind of setup?
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3094[18:36:56] <johnkeates> what kind of chat?
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3095[18:37:33] <TheIdea> debian vps
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3096[18:37:45] <TheIdea> jsut need some help with a bit of
hardening
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3098[18:37:49] <johnkeates> don't get a VPS if you
don't know how to set it up
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3101[18:37:58] <TheIdea> like I need an alternative for swatch
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3102[18:38:02] <johnkeates> servers are not set-and-forget, they
require maintenance
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3104[18:38:09] <TheIdea> I know
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3106[18:38:11] <TheIdea> Im learning
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3107[18:38:15] <johnkeates> okay :)
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3108[18:38:15] <TheIdea> its a cheap vps
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3110[18:38:40] <ChrisH> unborn: I can connect, but commands like
ls,du fail: /usr/bin/smbclient "\\\\SYSTEM\\SHARE" -U
username -E -W workgroup ; fail with "cli_list: Error: unable
to parse name from info level 260" Win7 works.
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3112[18:39:08] <TheIdea> just looking for a place where I can get
some tips
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3114[18:39:51] <markybob> TheIdea: #debian-offtopic maybe if
it's just generic stuff and not debian problems
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3115[18:40:12] <unborn> ChrisH: shall we try via terminal? does
the share have user name and password? what is the path to the
share?
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3116[18:40:17] <unborn> I mean shared folder
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3121[18:41:48] <TomTomTosch> wodim, hm, not sure.
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3123[18:42:17] <WallabyJenkins> “johnkeates: don't get
a VPS if you don't know how to set it up” You gotta learn
and start somehwere though. It’s a catch 22. He’ll never
learn if he doesn’t set one up but if he doesn’t know
you're telling him he shouldnt set it up.
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3125[18:42:35] <johnkeates> This is true, but not everybody wants
to learn
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3126[18:42:38] <johnkeates> but he does
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3127[18:42:44] <TheIdea> well i not 100% n00b
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3129[18:43:00] <WallabyJenkins> if you get hacked you’ll
learn a lesson, just dont be sensitive info on that server
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3130[18:43:01] <TheIdea> I've set some up in virtualbox
sever times
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3132[18:43:08] <johnkeates> well
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3133[18:43:09] <TheIdea> but I'm not good at hardening
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3134[18:43:10] <ChrisH> unborn: I can reproduce it against Win10
(fails) and Win7 (working). I was looking for someone else running
win10 to confirm its a generic issue. eg. pwd command provides the
correct (expected) path. Meanwhile I found one link, with a hint
win10 has a new SMB Version which fails and had some hints on
regestry magic to go back to previous SMB versions.
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3135[18:43:18] <WallabyJenkins> ive had my first VPS hacked tons
of times, it had a WP site on it too, now it hasnt been touched in
about a year, I think its failry secure, I learned A LOT
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3136[18:43:22] <Billsey> The Idea, What host platform are you
using?
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3139[18:43:38] <WallabyJenkins> ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS keep
everything up to date, I learned that one the hard way with 1 year
out of date OS
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3140[18:43:40] <johnkeates> TheIdea: make sure you only install
what you need, only enable what needs to be reachable and firewall
everything else off. Run nothing as root and restrict access to
files and you'll do fine
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3143[18:43:58] <johnkeates> TheIdea: also set up something like
nagios or cacti so you know what is up
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3144[18:44:04] <WallabyJenkins> yes that too, Hide access to the
root, if a hacker gets your root its game over, they are limited
only by imagination
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3147[18:44:20] <johnkeates> it doesn't need to be 100%
reliable but having some stats gives you insight in what happens
when
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3148[18:44:20] <TomTomTosch> wodim, apt-cache depends should show
all the alternatives with | though.
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3151[18:44:30] <TheIdea> they'll need to get my private key
to get root
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3153[18:44:37] <johnkeates> don't enable root via SSH
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3154[18:44:44] <johnkeates> only login as a normal user via SSH
and use sudo
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3155[18:44:48] <johnkeates> disable root password
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3156[18:44:56] <johnkeates> use ssh keys to login to your normal
account
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3157[18:44:58] <unborn_> sorry ChrisH I had to reboot
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3158[18:44:59] <johnkeates> never login as root
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3160[18:45:13] <ChrisH> unborn: I can reproduce it against Win10
(fails) and Win7 (working). I was looking for someone else running
win10 to confirm its a generic issue. eg. pwd command provides the
correct (expected) path. Meanwhile I found one link, with a hint
win10 has a new SMB Version which fails and had some hints on
regestry magic to go back to previous SMB versions.
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3161[18:45:13] <WallabyJenkins> I personally just VPN and ssh on
localhost hehe
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3165[18:45:16] <WallabyJenkins> just my preference
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3166[18:45:25] <WallabyJenkins> + it gives the added bonus of
encrypting all your traffic
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3167[18:45:29] <johnkeates> how do you ssh into the vpn server
;-)
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3168[18:45:31] <wodim> TomTomTosch: I am pretty positive
I've checked all packages, or almost
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3169[18:45:43] <WallabyJenkins> johnkeates: VPN connects to the
local network, then I SSH into 192.168.1.XXX
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3170[18:45:53] <johnkeates> well, yes, until it stops working
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3171[18:45:57] <WallabyJenkins> it can stop working?
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3172[18:45:58] <johnkeates> and then you needs to ssh in anyway
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3173[18:46:01] <johnkeates> well yes
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3174[18:46:04] <johnkeates> it can crash
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3175[18:46:08] <WallabyJenkins> Watchdog
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3176[18:46:13] <WallabyJenkins> itll restart itself
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3177[18:46:14] <johnkeates> it can reboot and not come up due to
bad config
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3178[18:46:20] <WallabyJenkins> that Ill give you
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3179[18:46:27] <WallabyJenkins> I didnt think about that
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3180[18:46:38] <TomTomTosch> wodim, what does it try to pull?
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3181[18:46:39] <johnkeates> but regarding VPN: I use it that way
too
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3182[18:46:49] <WallabyJenkins> he says after shutting me down
lol
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3183[18:46:52] <johnkeates> it's just that you also want to
have at least one point with SSH access
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3184[18:46:55] <wodim> TomTomTosch: php-cli php-common
php-gettext php-pear php-phpseclib php-tcpdf php-xml php7.0-cli
php7.0-common php7.0-json php7.0-opcache php7.0-readline php7.0-xml
phpmyadmin
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3185[18:46:57] <johnkeates> yes ;-)
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3186[18:47:05] <WallabyJenkins> i don’t deny ssh externally
completely heh, always gotta be prepared for emergencies, I agree
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3187[18:47:06] <johnkeates> never rely on one single thing
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3188[18:47:11] <johnkeates> yeah
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3189[18:47:18] <johnkeates> as long as it's not telnet :p
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3190[18:47:24] <WallabyJenkins> oh boy, thats all I use!
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3191[18:47:28] <johnkeates> :D
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3192[18:47:28] <TheIdea> I log into the server via encrypted vpn
and ssh with rsa
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3193[18:47:37] <wodim> telnet over ssl should be enough
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3194[18:47:40] <johnkeates> I usually have vpn + a ssh jump box
for when VPN fails
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3197[18:47:43] <TheIdea> so I seen no point in not using root
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3198[18:47:47] <TheIdea> -n
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3199[18:47:54] <WallabyJenkins> root should be set aside
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3200[18:47:56] <WallabyJenkins> rarely accessed
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3201[18:47:57] <WallabyJenkins> never seen
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3203[18:48:09] <WallabyJenkins> as far as anyone trying to
penetrate your system is concerned it shouldnt exist
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3204[18:48:20] <WallabyJenkins> because the moment a hacker finds
ANY WAY AT ALL to access your root, it’s over.
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3205[18:48:21] <johnkeates> TheIdea: root is no use over a normal
account, when you need to access something use sudo and otherwise
you shouldn't need it
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3207[18:48:31] <TheIdea> I thought the only reason not to use
root was vecause of bots guessing simple passwords
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3208[18:48:36] <TheIdea> because
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3209[18:48:37] <johnkeates> nope
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3210[18:48:51] <johnkeates> also, if you configure everything
correctly but accidentally start something as root because you were
logged in as root, that'd be bad
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3211[18:48:54] <WallabyJenkins> ssh isnt the only way to break
into root, I’ve been using metaspoloitable and there are other
vulnerabilities that if you aren’t careful can be used just as
easily
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3212[18:48:56] <johnkeates> also starting malware as root is bad
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3213[18:49:09] <johnkeates> also, removing something as root is
bad as nothing can protect you from yourself as you have all the
power
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3214[18:49:19] <johnkeates> just forget about root
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3215[18:49:20] <johnkeates> hide it
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3216[18:49:30] <TheIdea> good to know thx
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3217[18:49:40] <TheIdea> I'll stop using root then
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3218[18:49:42] <johnkeates> buy a shock collar that shocks you
every time you think about root
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3219[18:49:53] <johnkeates> :p
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3221[18:53:04] <TheIdea> I'll fix up the root access now
then brb
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3224[18:53:06] <TomTomTosch> wodim, can you paste the output of
'dpkg -l php5-cli php5-common php5-json' to
paste.debian.net please?
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3225[18:53:06] <TheIdea> does nagios work in termial?
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3226[18:53:06] <wodim> TomTomTosch:
replaced-url
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3228[18:53:37] <TheIdea> oh lol it's a web gui
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3231[18:54:29] <ChrisH> TheIdea: what do you mean by: "does
nagios work in termial"? You can check your monitoring script
from terminal, but you want to have the visual overview and see the
performance data from a web browser
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3234[18:55:01] <TheIdea> this guy:
replaced-url
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3240[18:56:21] <TomTomTosch> wodim, hm, weird. i have no idea x(
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3243[18:56:45] <wodim> TomTomTosch: ha. That makes two of us!
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3256[19:03:32] <TheIdea> is using unattended-upgrades a good idea
for hardening?
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3294[19:16:41] <TheIdea> is using sudo su secure?
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3297[19:16:53] <TheIdea> or should I not do that?
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3302[19:19:38] <babilen> TheIdea: You could use "sudo
-i" as alternative. I wouldn't consider sudo to be
insecure unless you configured it passwordless and grant access to
untrusted parties.
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3312[19:23:49] <TheIdea> I've set up a new user and blocked
root access
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3315[19:24:09] <TheIdea> I ahte writing sudo all the time though
XD
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3317[19:24:23] <medfly> Hello!
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3319[19:24:36] <TheIdea> hi
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3336[19:29:48] <babilen> TheIdea: Sure, then run "sudo
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