• 0[00:00:08] <n4dir> awal1: no, no. I don't think there is a difference between nm and wicd (regarding that question)
• 1[00:00:09] <awal1> t3st3r, we are here for learn !
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• 3[00:00:20] <awal1> the question is how
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• 8[00:01:35] <n4dir> awal1: how the connection happens?
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• 11[00:02:34] <t3st3r> awal1> most straightforward would be nmcli connection up <connection_name_or_GUID>
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• 13[00:03:03] <t3st3r> where name or GUID is same thing you see in GUI interface
• 14[00:03:22] <n4dir> t3st3r: but i would assume you could reach the same with nm?
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• 16[00:03:24] <t3st3r> I bet you can also set it up to autoconnect instead.
• 17[00:03:26] <awal1> I am not familiar with wifi dongles first time I try one, so I just configured the connection for my dongle via nm-applet , but it doesn't connect until I reload networking manually in X via nm-applet, n4dir
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• 20[00:04:00] <n4dir> ah, yeah, pretty confusing those devices. well: for me
• 21[00:04:26] <t3st3r> hmm... you have to reload NM to ensure it sees dongle?
• 22[00:04:31] <n4dir> t3st3r: yes, in wicd making it autoconnect did the trick
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• 29[00:08:01] <t3st3r> awal1> btw check if rfkill is enabled after boot or so
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• 58[00:23:48] <rekt> Guys, what I'm saying isn't irrelevant
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• 60[00:24:01] <rekt> OLED is now the de-facto future standard
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• 69[00:28:53] <picknick> just joined, what did I miss? OLED is bad for monitor use because of burn-in, this is an inherent flaw of the technology because on an emissive display every light source degrades at different rates depending on usage(same would apply to FALD LCD displays)
• 70[00:28:55] <awal1> n4dir, t3st3r, I am having wifi troubles now; I get disconnected continuously. Thanks for you attention. I'll be back with my questions later :P
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• 77[00:29:52] <n4dir> good luck.
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• 79[00:32:23] <t3st3r> nope no oleds for my monitors, burns out too fast and skews colors. Am I supposed to replace monitor every year or two?
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• 99[00:40:13] <frostschutz> the oled display of my stone age samsung galaxy 1 first generation smartphone is still fine ;)
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• 104[00:43:08] <t3st3r> I guess it heavily depends on how much you use it. If it lies in your pocket, it is fine.
• 105[00:43:27] <t3st3r> but if you have it active like 8h-10h a day?
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• 112[00:45:42] <JDoe___> Hi, I have a quick question about mounting options. Is this the right place?
• 113[00:46:11] <frostschutz> JDoe___, one way to find out - ask
• 114[00:46:14] <ksk> JDoe___: if you use debian to mount things, probably!
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• 116[00:46:39] <awal1> if I put 5ghz wifi network to channel 36, channel width 20 ghz and 802.11a the 802.11 mode will that affect the speed of my 2ghz wifi network (channel 6, mode n chan. width 40)?
• 117[00:47:15] <awal1> I mean 5ghz config will slow 2ghz bandwidth too?
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• 119[00:47:38] <awal1> my goal is reduce 5ghz bandwidth and give priority to the 2ghz one
• 120[00:47:44] <JDoe___> Does the following options make any sense to mount external hd (ntfs)? ntfs-3g noatime,nodiratime,nodev,nosuid,noauto,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,uid=1000,gid=1000,utf8
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• 122[00:48:18] <ksk> JDoe___: is there a reason at all to not just use "mount" for that, without any options?
• 123[00:49:02] <awal1> replaced-url
• 124[00:49:28] <JDoe___> Yeah, at some point I had problems with permissions to write files, device not mounting, etc
• 125[00:49:46] <JDoe___> So I started to mount manually using terminal and later modifying the fstab
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• 127[00:50:13] <JDoe___> Someone suggested for me "ntfs defaults"
• 128[00:50:38] <teatime> JDoe___: you can probably prefer the defaults for atime options, I assume relatime works for ntfs same as ext
• 129[00:50:41] <frostschutz> JDoe___, noatime implies nodiratime, but doesn't hurt either, so ... it's a personal choice, which options to use. usually the uid gid stuff happens automagically for user mounts. ymmv
• 130[00:51:01] <teatime> you probably want to preface the options you set w/ defaults, don't think that happens automatically
• 131[00:51:11] <teatime> and you probably want to look into the 'user' mount option
• 132[00:51:35] <awal1> my conclusion is that if I put 5ghz to channel 36, mode n, channel width 20 will reduce 5ghz bandwidth to minimum possible ad 2.4 ghz set to channel 6 or 11, mode n , channel mode 40 will geta better bandwidth. is that correct?
• 133[00:51:37] <teatime> see man mount and man mount.ntfs-3g
• 134[00:51:46] <JDoe___> Ah, I see... Maybe I was overreacting
• 135[00:52:05] <JDoe___> Yeah, I read man mount to choose the options
• 136[00:52:05] <awal1> my conclusion is that if I put 5ghz to channel 36, mode a, channel width 20 will reduce 5ghz bandwidth to minimum possible ad 2.4 ghz set to channel 6 or 11, mode n , channel mode 40 will geta better bandwidth. is that correct?
• 137[00:52:11] <awal1> a for 5ghz, not n
• 138[00:52:32] <frostschutz> JDoe___, "defaults" is just a placeholder since you can't leave the field empty. defaults is also implied, so "defaults,anything" doesn't really make sense either (other than declarative)
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• 140[00:53:45] <teatime> my mistake
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• 143[00:55:08] <frostschutz> teatime, that's how I understand it anyway - it might be wrong, the manpage actually has an example for defaults,
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• 145[00:56:09] <JDoe___> frostschutz: What about dmask and fmask? I remeber that sometimes ll showed all files and dir with root as owner and group
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• 147[00:56:57] <frostschutz> JDoe___, if you use 'user' option and mount it as user, it should set it to that user. if you set fixed value, it will be locked to one specific user instead. it depends on what you want (and if you even have more than one user)
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• 152[00:58:33] <JDoe___> frostschutz: Oh, ok. I just want to mount it in a safe way to not mess with owner, group and permissions.
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• 154[00:58:54] <JDoe___> frostschutz: By accident. I'll try your suggestion
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• 159[01:00:24] <JDoe___> frostschutz: Thank you, frostschutz and everyone else
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• 180[01:11:08] <rekt> t3st3r: you must use a pixel filter
• 181[01:11:11] <rekt> replaced-url
• 182[01:11:59] <rekt> ^ a pixel grid of rgb(000); is overlayed on the whole screen, and alternates every 5 minutes
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• 184[01:12:09] <rekt> Also, invert the colors
• 185[01:12:17] <rekt> So you don't read black text on white background
• 186[01:13:53] <rekt> Black text on white background makes no sense anyway
• 187[01:14:18] <rekt> And most of use here have our brains rewired due to staring at illuminated screens for our entire lives
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• 213[01:24:53] <rekt> Oh
• 214[01:24:57] <rekt> I'm in #debiam
• 215[01:25:04] <rekt> i meant to join #debian-next
• 216[01:25:07] <rekt> what gives?
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• 218[01:25:21] <wreo> Channel is invite-only
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• 220[01:26:13] <annadane> !debian-next
• 221[01:26:13] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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• 224[01:27:25] <rekt> that's interesting
• 225[01:27:29] <rekt> ta
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• 308[02:19:09] <t3st3r> rekt> I guess you meant something like #debian-offtopic or so :P
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• 315[02:22:12] <insecurity> something up with the canadian repo? apt gave me a bunch of 404s, and some packages couldn't be verified. changed all my sources to US and everything was fine
• 316[02:22:25] <insecurity> if you surf to replaced-url
• 317[02:22:48] <insecurity> oh i refreshed and it's all there now
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• 321[02:23:21] <kod----> Hey my computer has an hdmi input port any idea how to access this via VLC?
• 322[02:23:32] <kod----> or anywhere for that matter via debian
• 323[02:23:52] <tw> probably a v4l2 driver for your capture card.
• 324[02:23:56] <tw> if such a thing exists.
• 325[02:23:59] <tw> (the driver)
• 326[02:24:41] <kod----> hmm I don't even have a capture card it's an alienware steam machine
• 327[02:24:42] <kod----> replaced-url
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• 329[02:25:48] <kod----> interesting
• 330[02:25:55] <kod----> from alienware directly
• 331[02:25:56] <kod----> replaced-url
• 332[02:25:59] <kod----> The Steam Machine is also a receiver. You can connect any device to it that utilizes HDMI. Your cable box, dvd/blu-ray player, ect. This way, you can seamlessly switch between both inputs on the Steam Machine without having to change the TV input.
• 333[02:26:53] <kod----> I'm running debian stretch if that helps
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• 337[02:27:32] <tw> load steamos and figure out how it does it?
• 338[02:27:40] <kod----> meh already wiped it out
• 339[02:27:41] <tw> it probably has special drivers that are nonstandard
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• 341[02:28:05] <kod----> i'll look at the steamos repo and see what i can find
• 342[02:28:15] <tw> i'd check lspci and so forth for interesting capture devices.
• 343[02:28:21] <kod----> thanks
• 344[02:28:24] <kod----> good idea
• 345[02:28:48] <kod----> replaced-url
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• 347[02:30:30] <kod----> looks like it uses hdmi pass through some how
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• 355[02:32:30] <kod----> HDMI passthrough is simply an electrical passthrough, the computer doesn't have access to that data.
• 356[02:32:43] <tw> probably an hdmi switch chip on the board toggled by a GPIO or an i2c/spi register write.
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• 360[02:33:37] <tw> you'd really need to have the factory os and a fair bit of free time to figure out what the event got sent to.
• 361[02:34:06] <kod----> yeah i'm trying to look through steamos packages and maybe find something
• 362[02:34:17] <kod----> it's built on top of debian which is good
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• 416[03:07:20] <cyberfunk> does anyone have experience installing intel microcode. I have nil acpi support with this cpu. does anyone think this will help?: replaced-url
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• 430[03:16:17] <cyberfunk> bout to see ifit bricks
• 431[03:16:42] <cyberfunk> i'll report back if it doesnt
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• 433[03:19:38] <dvs> ,v intel-microcode
• 434[03:19:39] <judd> Package: intel-microcode on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 1.20150121.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 3.20161104.1~deb8u1~bpo7+1; jessie-backports/non-free: 3.20170511.1~bpo8+1; jessie/non-free: 3.20170707.1~deb8u1; stretch/non-free: 3.20170707.1~deb9u1; jessie-backports-sloppy/non-free: 3.20180312.1~bpo8+1; stretch-backports/non-free: 3.20180312.1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 3.20180312.1; sid
• 435[03:19:40] <judd> /non-free: 3.20180312.1
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• 450[03:28:17] <cyberfunk> installing. I feel like I tried this.
• 451[03:28:33] <cyberfunk> rebooting tyty
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• 458[03:30:05] <beagleboner> hi
• 459[03:30:08] <beagleboner> hello
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• 461[03:30:27] <annadane> hi
• 462[03:30:40] <beagleboner> how is it going annadane?
• 463[03:30:47] <annadane> fine. do you have a debian question?
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• 478[03:36:56] <cyberfunk> so Iget less acpi errors in dmesg but I still get crashes after suspend
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• 483[03:40:18] <cyberfunk> dmesg | grep -i acpi outputs: replaced-url
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• 491[03:42:33] <cyberfunk> any ideas?
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• 510[04:02:23] <just_this> Does DD not work when trying to make a bootable windows flash drive?
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• 513[04:03:53] <cyberfunk> I have only been able to make a bootable windws flash drive from withinwindows
• 514[04:03:58] <dvs> just_this, no because the Debian ISO has special code to make it bootable
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• 519[04:07:00] <cyberfunk> I would boot into a virtual machine and make recovery media or windows to go from there. but windows is gross
• 520[04:07:54] <kodi> I installed the nvidia drivers and my font is huge. I also don't have an xorg.conf file in /etc/x11 so the solution listed on the debian site doesn't work
• 521[04:08:00] <kodi> debian links to: replaced-url
• 522[04:08:25] <cyberfunk> are you using wayland?
• 523[04:08:28] <kodi> well my resolution must be 640x480
• 524[04:09:42] <kodi> Type=x11
• 525[04:09:46] <kodi> Service=slim
• 526[04:10:08] <just_this> then you'll need to make one
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• 529[04:11:00] <kodi> ah I did and pasted what I saw in the solution same issue still
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• 531[04:11:43] <just_this> Are you using the Nvidia drivers from APT or from Nvidia's website?
• 532[04:12:27] <kodi> replaced-url
• 533[04:12:34] <kodi> apt
• 534[04:12:39] <kodi> deb replaced-url
• 535[04:12:44] <kodi> # apt install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's/[^-]*-[^-]*-//') nvidia-driver
• 536[04:12:51] <kodi> sorry i didnt mean to paste that
• 537[04:12:56] <kodi> nvidia-driver is the package
• 538[04:13:16] <kodi> "(The answer here may be needed to enable a higher resolution.) "
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• 540[04:13:50] <just_this> So you are trying to get a higher resolution than 480p?
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• 543[04:14:11] <kodi> correct 1080p
• 544[04:14:27] <kodi> nvidia gui says its at 1080p but thats clearly not the case
• 545[04:14:37] <just_this> Is your GUI working okay?
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• 548[04:15:12] <cyberfunk> what about the regular display settings?
• 549[04:15:13] <just_this> besides the resolution problem
• 550[04:15:55] <kodi> yeah my gui is working fine
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• 552[04:16:05] <kodi> replaced-url
• 553[04:16:17] <kodi> i just pasted that into /etc/x11/xorg.conf
• 554[04:16:58] <kodi> by that I mean the contents of "cat xorg.conf !!!work (1920x1080):"
• 555[04:17:17] <just_this> Did you restart the computer?
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• 557[04:18:35] <kodi> yeah, but i'll try again
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• 573[04:29:39] <kodi> so I removed slim and installed lightdm. on the login screen now its 1080p soon as I sign into my account back to 480p
• 574[04:29:43] <kodi> but thats progress i guess
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• 577[04:30:06] <kodi> if i open the nvidia control panel it says im in 1080p but thats not the case
• 578[04:30:13] <kodi> maybe i should just delete the user account and create a new one
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• 585[04:32:52] <kodi> i created a new user account and it's 640x480 when logging in
• 586[04:32:57] <kodi> lightdm login screen is 1080p
• 587[04:33:27] <cyberfunk> what de?
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• 589[04:33:46] <cyberfunk> DE*
• 590[04:33:56] <kodi> mate
• 591[04:34:15] <cyberfunk> full mate?
• 592[04:34:19] <kodi> mate-desktop
• 593[04:34:22] <kodi> yes
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• 595[04:34:25] <cyberfunk> including extras?
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• 597[04:34:29] <kodi> yes
• 598[04:34:49] <cyberfunk> try reinstall mate?
• 599[04:35:06] <kodi> alright fair enough here goes
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• 604[04:38:37] <cyberfunk> hope he purges
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• 620[04:52:08] <kodi> i purged mate... and when i reach the lightdm login its still 1080p but logging in is 4080p
• 621[04:52:10] <kodi> -480p
• 622[04:52:23] <kodi> makes no sense to me
• 623[04:53:12] <kodi> this happened after installing nvidia-driver
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• 627[04:55:03] <kodi> replaced-url
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• 629[04:55:07] <kodi> my xorg.conf
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• 642[05:02:44] <cyberfunk> switch tty and run startx
• 643[05:02:53] <kodi> ok
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• 646[05:04:33] <kodi> startx launches a new instance in 480p
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• 648[05:04:53] <kodi> this is so weird
• 649[05:05:49] <kodi> i deleted my entire ./config folder too
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• 651[05:06:01] <kodi> * .config
• 652[05:06:20] <cyberfunk> have you tried xrandr?
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• 654[05:07:05] <kodi> replaced-url
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• 656[05:07:23] <kodi> yeah right
• 657[05:07:32] <kodi> it's not 1920x1080 unless i log out
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• 659[05:07:50] <kodi> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 16384 x 16384
• 660[05:07:50] <kodi> HDMI-0 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 160mm x 90mm
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• 664[05:08:51] <cyberfunk> replaced-url
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• 666[05:09:12] <kodi> 305x305 dots per inch
• 667[05:09:17] <kodi> Resolution:
• 668[05:09:21] <kodi> 1920x1080 pixels (160x90 millimeters)
• 669[05:09:31] <kodi> i'll try that thanks
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• 672[05:11:56] <cyberfunk> what does displays gui say?
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• 700[05:22:34] <kodi> lightdm\slim xfce\mate makes no difference
• 701[05:22:40] <kodi> once you login the resolution still goes to 480p
• 702[05:22:48] <kodi> im clueless
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• 705[05:24:34] <cyberfunk> replaced-url
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• 707[05:25:32] <cyberfunk> sudo X-configure
• 708[05:25:44] <cyberfunk> X -configure *
• 709[05:26:21] <cyberfunk> g2g glhf
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• 711[05:26:40] <kodi> ttyl
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• 770[06:14:04] <annadane> how to fix? replaced-url
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• 776[06:19:42] <annadane> oh, weird. it fixed itself.
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• 859[07:36:36] <nbags> are there any problems with upgrading to buster atm? like big migrations happening or anything. i know there is a page for this but i'm not sure how to find it
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• 869[07:46:06] <towo^work> nbags, there are allways problems whith that, as long buster is not released
• 870[07:46:31] <nbags> thats not what im asking
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• 872[07:47:30] <nbags> there is (or at least was) a page that basically said things like 'do not upgrade to testing right now because we are in the middle of updating perl' and things like that
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• 944[08:47:38] <dfcnvt> Is it safe to run " sudo rm -rf /var/log/* "???
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• 947[08:48:54] <dfcnvt> I mean, I removed partial files like all *gz, *0, *1 in the /var/log -- no problem....But wanted to know if it's safe to remove completely in /var/log? What's your experience on that?
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• 950[08:53:48] <petemc> its not a great idea
• 951[08:53:58] <r4co0n> dfcnvt, some programs may refuse to run if their log file doesn't exist - that's dependant on the specific application.
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• 953[08:54:54] <r4co0n> You can probably delete everything logrotate created and also trim all logfiles, which would give you almost as much as what you want to do.
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• 955[08:57:26] <dfcnvt> Thanks
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• 1010[09:27:17] <fredl> hi folks, I seem to be confused about USB devices. Some devices when I connect them make a /dev/ttyUSB*, but others do not. How do I change that?
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• 1015[09:29:25] <fredl> Actually I'd like to communicate with my USB device through minicom and know which device driver to use
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• 1021[09:33:05] <fredl> Oh... I guess I'm getting /dev/ttyACM0 for some reason
• 1022[09:33:22] <t3st3r> fredl> probably you have to read about udev and take a look on its rules
• 1023[09:33:47] <t3st3r> it and its rules are what assigning names to devices
• 1024[09:33:55] <fredl> Okay, fair enough
• 1025[09:34:00] <fredl> tnx
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• 1028[09:35:49] <t3st3r> look for places like /lib/udev/rules.d to see default rules. Changed rules can be in /etc/udev/rules.d or so
• 1029[09:36:15] <t3st3r> default rules are good to get idea how to do that kind of thing
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• 1064[09:58:26] <yakapa> hi
• 1065[09:58:47] <yakapa> I forget how to mount the KNOPPIX file on the Knoppix dvd, did it in 5minute last night... someone know please ?
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• 1074[10:05:40] <Guest9827> hi, I'm on 9.4. The right click of the mouse doesn't work. Any help?
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• 1107[10:23:44] <armin> does anyone know a tool to automagically detect transcoded .flac files? e.g. flac files that have an mp3 as source?
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• 1149[10:49:12] <bolt> armin: who would do that?
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• 1152[10:52:18] <buumi> Hey, i'm building a debian package and i'm using DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=5" to speed up building phase. Now one slow part left is step dpkg-deb: building package 'xxx.deb'. This seems to only use one core for me currently. Is there a way to get this faster with multithreading?
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• 1155[10:54:47] <jelly> armin: that's not possible in a general case. You'd only be able to heuristically detect possible sources, based on frequency analysis and some other artifacts. Basically if you could hear it sounded like a crappy mp3 you could make a program for that.
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• 1192[11:09:39] <Guest31949> is it possible to install Debian 1.1 in a VM ? want to try something historical ^^
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• 1195[11:11:31] <tomlukeywood> Guest63460: of course
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• 1198[11:13:10] <jelly> Guest31949: no idea, try it and see
• 1199[11:13:21] <jelly> tomlukeywood: have you actually tried it/
• 1200[11:13:53] <jelly> you'll probably have to carefully choose emulated hardware
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• 1202[11:15:19] <Guest31949> ok i am going to try it ^^
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• 1204[11:15:44] <tomlukeywood> jelly: well no but i just could not see why not....
• 1205[11:15:53] <tomlukeywood> Guest63460: replaced-url
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• 1207[11:16:17] <tomlukeywood> jelly: if it runs on i386 qemu-system-i386 should work
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• 1209[11:17:59] <Guest31949> oh you need 4MB Ram ... xD nice
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• 1228[11:26:50] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
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• 1243[11:36:41] <IC3KING> hello
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• 1247[11:39:47] <IC3KING> can any one teach me kali
• 1248[11:40:26] <towo^work> no
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• 1250[11:40:36] <towo^work> this is #debian, not #kali
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• 1264[11:54:14] <IC3KING> can anyone card
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• 1269[11:55:39] <towo^work> IC3KING, no
• 1270[11:55:50] <klys> what do you mean
• 1271[11:56:02] <klys> charge money to a debit card?
• 1272[11:56:30] <towo^work> IC3KING, this is not #kali, this is #debian
• 1273[11:57:07] <towo^work> IC3KING, and only use a hax0r nick in irc, doesn't mean you are the greatest hax0r on earth
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• 1275[11:57:39] <IC3KING> who said i was the greatest hacker
• 1276[11:57:53] <klys> grammar check
• 1277[11:57:54] <towo^work> [11:39:47] <IC3KING> can any one teach me kali
• 1278[11:58:11] <IC3KING> i can its simple
• 1279[11:58:45] <klys> do either of you speak english
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• 1281[11:58:57] <IC3KING> i do
• 1282[11:59:03] <klys> can what?
• 1283[11:59:18] <IC3KING> speak english
• 1284[11:59:25] <klys> and it's simple
• 1285[11:59:35] <IC3KING> yes
• 1286[11:59:50] <klys> so I gather you can say what you meant when you said, "i can it's simple"
• 1287[12:00:01] <bezaban> debian-offtopic will happily accomodate a certain degree of bickering - but please keep this channel to debian support questions
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• 1290[12:00:40] <IC3KING> Yes sir
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• 1319[12:14:32] <abd5932> Hello, which VPN server available for Debian has these features? Thank you! replaced-url
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• 1332[12:20:50] <r4co0n> abd5932, you should be able to do all of this with OpenVPN. On another note, I think you want the employees to enter a password on each and every connection, otherwise those private keys 'at home' can't really be trusted.
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• 1340[12:22:46] <r4co0n> abd5932, or is this only on company equipment and the hard-drives encrypted?
• 1341[12:23:28] <abd5932> r4co0n: Debian is on a VirtualBox VM...
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• 1343[12:24:07] <abd5932> r4co0n: are you sure OpenVPN support all 5 features? Does it have native windows client?
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• 1348[12:26:07] <abd5932> r4co0n: would you prefer OpenVPN to the other options mentioned there?
• 1349[12:26:21] <abd5932> (if not for these features)
• 1350[12:27:11] <r4co0n> abd5932, replaced-url
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• 1354[12:27:54] <r4co0n> You have to make sure to not use the "OpenVPN Connect" stuff, that's a premium thing they are selling, if I'm not mistaken
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• 1360[12:29:18] <abd5932> r4co0n: thank you! I'll look into that software!
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• 1362[12:29:45] <r4co0n> Your requirement 1) will need some fiddling, but it can be done, the config of OpenVPN is huge..
• 1363[12:30:06] <IC3KING> can any one tell me a good sock5 proxy
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• 1367[12:31:08] <r4co0n> abd5932, look into replaced-url
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• 1370[12:32:54] <abd5932> r4co0n: Thank you!
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• 1393[12:43:36] <zoeurk> hello, i try to build the debian-installer but I have this error :"E: Impossible de trouver le paquet acpi-modules-4.9.0-6-amd64-di" (Unable to find the package...) can you help me?
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• 1424[13:07:38] <petn-randall> !bat
• 1425[13:07:38] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
• 1426[13:07:41] <petn-randall> !localized errors
• 1427[13:07:41] <dpkg> To provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install".
• 1428[13:08:19] <petn-randall> zoeurk: Can you provide the data from the !bat factoid in a single paste? Use the trick below that to show us the output in english.
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• 1430[13:09:07] <petn-randall> zoeurk: Or rather, the complete command + output of whatever you're trying to do.
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• 1437[13:12:35] * bolt points at pastebinit
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• 1443[13:19:01] <zoeurk> this the pastebin of my commande replaced-url
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• 1445[13:21:48] <sine0> I dont really understand backports and never had a real use for it
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• 1449[13:22:07] <sine0> but i need to install virtualbox-guest-dkms
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• 1451[13:22:59] <sine0> aha: for Debian 9, enable backports with contrib; to do so, add a line like
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• 1458[13:25:42] <at0m> sine0: well, if you depend on a version newer than the one available for your debian version, bpo provides more recent version without sending you down dependency nightmares
• 1459[13:26:28] <sine0> but backports would make me think you were installing something older lol
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• 1462[13:27:15] <sine0> I am also having to install headers$(uname -r)
• 1463[13:27:23] <sine0> does this mean I am compiling some stuff
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• 1465[13:27:32] <petn-randall> zoeurk: I provided you with a factoid to show it the output in english, I don't speak french.
• 1466[13:27:57] <towo^work> sine0, you compile the vbox modules
• 1467[13:28:08] <towo^work> sine0, that's why you need the kernel headers
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• 1469[13:29:31] <sine0> towo^work: sure, but why are they not already available in a compiled state?
• 1470[13:29:58] <sine0> is it because they would have to have one in theoretically every kernel version?
• 1471[13:30:44] <towo^work> exact
• 1472[13:31:03] <tw> every kernel *configuration*
• 1473[13:31:07] <tw> not just version.
• 1474[13:31:08] <towo^work> and since vbox is out of tree you have to compile that for every installed kernel
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• 1478[13:33:17] <sine0> ok, i am learning !
• 1479[13:33:19] <sine0> lol
• 1480[13:33:25] <jelly> sine0: dkms involves compiling kernel modules from source
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• 1482[13:33:44] <jelly> it's just a platform to make it automated and easier
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• 1484[13:34:18] <tw> It's probably better to use the vbox module from oracle rather than apt. I've had much better luck that way.
• 1485[13:34:38] <tw> In terms of compatibility.
• 1486[13:34:40] <tw> At least for guest.
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• 1489[13:35:54] <sine0> tw would it be in .deb
• 1490[13:36:19] <tw> No, but it appears to use dkms.
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• 1496[13:41:11] <HKitain> sidenote: i'm currently packaging an out-of-tree binary kernel module because of licensing issues not allowing us to package it as sources
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• 1499[13:41:51] <HKitain> it's a PAIN, even when your target has one configuration and infrequent releases.
• 1500[13:42:48] <tw> *cough* gpl2 linking.
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• 1503[13:44:45] <vader_> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
• 1504[13:44:45] <vader_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
• 1505[13:44:45] <vader_> gnome-core : Depends: gnome-shell-extensions (>= 3.22) but it is not going to be installed
• 1506[13:44:45] <vader_> Depends: gvfs-bin (>= 1.30) but it is not going to be installed
• 1507[13:44:45] <vader_> Depends: gvfs-fuse (>= 1.30) but it is not going to be installed
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• 1510[13:45:43] <jelly> dpkg, tell vader_ about basic apt troubleshooting
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• 1514[13:47:53] <tw> What, like when he gets back?
• 1515[13:48:09] <tw> That's a fancy bot right there.
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• 1517[13:49:42] <HKitain> tw, ain't my problem that the developer is breaking GPL
• 1518[13:51:11] <tw> Oh, they shipped you the module that way?
• 1519[13:51:18] <tw> Pre-linked?
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• 1522[13:52:03] <tw> you're in a gray area that needs legal advisement, but I'm sure you folks have looked into it.
• 1523[13:52:08] <HKitain> let's take this to #offtopic
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• 1525[13:52:12] <jelly> they're not breaking it unless they use gplonly symbols
• 1526[13:52:21] <jelly> but yeah
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• 1624[14:51:45] <darxmurf> quick htaccess question, I have 2 domain names for the same target replaced-url
• 1625[14:52:21] <dynek> url rewrite?
• 1626[14:52:22] <greycat> Are you using virtual hosts? If not, why not?
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• 1628[14:52:58] <darxmurf> I'm not managing the server :-)
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• 1630[14:53:10] <darxmurf> a friend asked me to help for her website
• 1631[14:53:13] <dynek> any pam guru around? :-) I'm using google authenticator as 2FA and to skip it when ssh from my LAN I used pam_access. However when I connect from outside my lan the pam module first says "access denied" (in logsany pam guru around? :-) I'm using google authenticator as 2FA and to skip it when ssh from my LAN I used pam_access. However when I connect from outside my lan the pam module logs "access denied"
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• 1633[14:53:19] <dynek> (auth log) - how can I avoid that? noaudit has no effect.
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• 1635[14:53:30] <greycat> Tell her to set up virtual hosts, so site2 has its own Document Root.
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• 1639[14:54:24] <babilen> Is that nginx/apache/lighttpd/... ?
• 1640[14:54:24] <darxmurf> we can't change the conf
• 1641[14:54:28] <darxmurf> apache
• 1642[14:54:32] <greycat> Why not?
• 1643[14:54:58] <babilen> replaced-url
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• 1646[14:55:28] <greycat> If the answer is something like "this web hosting provider doesn't let us", then just move to a better provider.
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• 1650[14:57:01] <JustASlacker> could ask in #htttpd too
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• 1652[14:57:06] <darxmurf> yep
• 1653[14:57:10] <JustASlacker> but they hate people asking questions like that
• 1654[14:57:17] <darxmurf> yep :-)
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• 1656[14:57:19] <JustASlacker> :P
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• 1658[14:57:26] <darxmurf> I know how to configure apache for that
• 1659[14:57:40] <darxmurf> but as it's not possible there I was wondering if there is a way to hide that in the address bar
• 1660[14:57:40] <greycat> Because it has an obvious right answer, and he's not willing to take the right answer, and he's not willing to tell us WHY he won't take the right answer.
• 1661[14:58:07] <darxmurf> ^^
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• 1663[14:58:29] <LunaLovegood> Is there a way to configure ethernet bonding using the teaming driver (CONFIG_NET_TEAM instead of CONFIG_BONDING) in /etc/network/interfaces ?
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• 1665[14:59:04] <babilen> JustASlacker: I think they just hate people in general
• 1666[14:59:13] <greycat> That may also be true.
• 1667[14:59:20] <greycat> Using Apache will do that to you.
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• 1669[14:59:49] <JustASlacker> babilen: that way my impression too
• 1670[15:00:11] <JustASlacker> one of the most hostile channels on freenode. its right up there with #java
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• 1676[15:02:48] <Tenkawa> wow.. i entered the channel into quite the discussion
• 1677[15:03:31] <greycat> Nothing new. "Common problem" "Obvious solution" "I can't" "Why not?" *silence*
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• 1705[15:16:39] <Wolf20180323> Hello, I've a Thinkpad T520 with Debian installed, my webcam doesn't work. I tried everything, cheese, guvcview, modprobe uvcvideo Using Fn+F6 (webcam control), nothing works
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• 1712[15:17:50] <Wolf20180323> Also, I'm pretty sure it's not the first time I come across problem like such. Once I had the wireless stuck, I couldn't use Wireless Internet, it wasn't working at al not even with the FN key, until I went on Windows and turned it on, powered off, and booted into Debian (like if Windows has the tools to manage these devices and GNU/Linux doesn't or something like that)
• 1713[15:18:01] <unixer> anything relevant in the output of dmesg, /var/log/messages, or /var/log/syslog?
• 1714[15:18:25] <Wolf20180323> let me have a look unixer
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• 1716[15:19:54] <Trel> using a shell script, is there any way to check if the current session used SSH password or keys?
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• 1721[15:21:45] <Wolf20180323> There is something but probably is just me playing around with uvcvideo and modprobe, /var/log/messages replaced-url
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• 1723[15:22:46] <slax0r> Trel: I don't think so
• 1724[15:23:00] <slax0r> if you disable ssh password logins, then it'd be pretty easy to figure out I guess
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• 1726[15:23:13] <slax0r> if you have both enabled, maybe by parsing logs?
• 1727[15:23:17] <Wolf20180323> it sucks as I need the camera and I don't have Windows available to try to fix the problem with Thinkpad driver and stuff, last time I had problems with wireless, I had to get it to work on Windows first (no clue why)
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• 1731[15:23:59] <darxmurf> Trel: I would say, parsing logs yep
• 1732[15:24:04] <darxmurf> if you have access to them :-)
• 1733[15:24:33] <Trel> Ah darn, the intended used likely would not have access
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• 1735[15:24:57] <Trel> I wanted to insert a message in the MOTD to remind all password users that they really should be moving to the pubkey method.
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• 1737[15:25:19] <Trel> I can detect local vs ssh, but I couldn't find anything in set or env to indicate pubkey/password
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• 1739[15:25:41] <slax0r> just put the motd for everyone
• 1740[15:26:25] <unixer> you could use pam_motd
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• 1742[15:26:41] <unixer> but that wouldn't detect password vs key
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• 1748[15:29:16] <unixer> actually, ircc, key authentication will skip the pam_auth modules, try pam_echo in the auth section
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• 1754[15:32:08] <unixer> Wolf, both of those are from dmesg, but check to see if your user is in the video group
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• 1758[15:33:30] <Wolf20180323> unixer can I ask if you can explain me how to that? I actually don't know
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• 1761[15:33:48] <greycat> start by running "id"
• 1762[15:34:15] <greycat> that shows your credentials in the current shell process (which are not necessarily the same as what you'll get next time you login, if a change has been made)
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• 1765[15:34:39] <greycat> "id yourname" shows what you will get next time you login
• 1766[15:35:48] <Wolf20180323> uid=1000(ka) gid=1000(ka) groups=1000(ka),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),108(netdev),114(bluetooth),115(lpadmin),119(scanner)
• 1767[15:35:49] <unixer> Those video libraries the apps you are trying to use are probably trying to read or write to the device file. If your user doesn't have permissions, it won't work.
• 1768[15:36:15] <Wolf20180323> I see 44(video) I don't know if it means something
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• 1772[15:36:24] <unixer> It means you are in that group
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• 1775[15:37:00] <unixer> Can you pastebin the syslog entries you mentioned. Both of the links you sent were from dmesg
• 1776[15:37:02] <Trel> unixer: that's in the sshd config?
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• 1779[15:37:48] <Wolf20180323> unixer what do you mean I do a sudo cat /var/log/syslog
• 1780[15:37:56] <Wolf20180323> should I use cat?
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• 1784[15:38:37] <Wolf20180323> oh my, what a moron, dmesg... that's why those output looked the same
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• 1795[15:44:31] <unixer> use whatever you want to view the relevant entries, cat, more, less, view, whatever you prefer
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• 1797[15:45:15] <Wolf20180323> I'm getting size limits and I can't paste, just a moment...
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• 1799[15:45:28] <unixer> just the relevant entries
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• 1805[15:47:19] <Wolf20180323> both paste.debian.org and pastebin.com my entries are too big
• 1806[15:47:35] <Wolf20180323> solved with pasteall.org
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• 1808[15:48:09] <unixer> Ok
• 1809[15:49:08] <Wolf20180323> qq /var/log/syslog replaced-url
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• 1835[15:57:16] <tiny> Who's the smartass that changed default vim mouse behavior in stretch? He needs to be hanged.
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• 1837[15:58:08] <kopper> How has it changed?
• 1838[15:58:10] <tiny> stupid kids with to much time on their hands ... "hey how bout I change this ... it worked for 20 years but what the hell...
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• 1840[15:58:37] <tiny> meh
• 1841[15:58:41] <greycat> kopper: if you don't have a ~/.vimrc file (e.g. if you are running vim through sudo or something) you get unicorn-barf colors and the mouse only works normally if you hold Shift or something.
• 1842[15:59:09] <greycat> So now everyone has to make a /root/.vimrc file to get back to normal.
• 1843[15:59:13] <slax0r> who needs a mouse in vim
• 1844[15:59:26] <greycat> You use the mouse to highlight shit in another terminal and paste it into vim in insert mode.
• 1845[15:59:27] <kopper> greycat: Ok, nice to know
• 1846[15:59:35] <kopper> Maybe I should try mouse with vim sometimes :P
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• 1848[15:59:54] <slax0r> been pasting from registers with my kb since ages, but... *shrug*
• 1849[15:59:55] <greycat> Except in stretch's default vim that doesn't WORK because they changed things because "fancy colors better" or something, who the fuck knows, they aren't normal.
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• 1851[16:00:10] <kopper> Ah
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• 1855[16:01:22] <unixer> I never thought an editor config could result in so much anger
• 1856[16:01:33] <greycat> vim (2:8.0.0022-1) unstable; urgency=medium Vim now ships with a defaults.vim file which, when the user has no vimrc, enables some options that have historically been disabled by default. ... James McCoy <jamessan@debian.org>
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• 1860[16:02:03] <Wolf20180323> I'm with the phone now
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• 1864[16:04:29] <tiny> I want old behaviour back. You select shit from the web page and paste it in insert mode. I have devs that are used to this (on rare ocasion that they work with unix servers + vim) and now I have to listen to "fix your god damn linux boxes" comments.
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• 1869[16:05:30] <greycat> tiny: either give everyone a .vimrc file or read the /usr/share/doc/vim/NEWS.Debian.gz file and create the other file in /etc/something
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• 1873[16:06:32] <tiny> greycat: yeah ... using global vimrc but strangely it doesn't work somehow...
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• 1876[16:07:11] <greycat> if the instructions in NEWS.Debian.gz don't work, file a bug. I never tried them.
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• 1879[16:07:31] <tiny> i'll read up ...
• 1880[16:07:32] <tiny> later
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• 1882[16:07:53] <tiny> greycat: ty
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• 1911[16:18:11] <unixer> Wolf, what kind of error messages are you getting if any?
• 1912[16:18:33] <Wolf20180323_2> this is strange
• 1913[16:18:52] <Wolf20180323_2> I'm now on Windows
• 1914[16:18:55] <unixer> I would check the manufacturer site to see if they have any linux drivers.
• 1915[16:19:01] <Wolf20180323_2> I checked the BIOS as I tought maybe I had disabled it
• 1916[16:19:10] <Wolf20180323_2> no, the fact is it doesn't work on Windows as well
• 1917[16:19:19] <Wolf20180323_2> the driver doesn't install somehow too
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• 1919[16:19:23] <Wolf20180323_2> crazy
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• 1923[16:20:42] <Tenkawa> Wolf20180323_2: what you trying to fix?
• 1924[16:21:25] <Wolf20180323_2> Tenkawa webcam
• 1925[16:21:35] <Tenkawa> usb?
• 1926[16:21:49] <Wolf20180323_2> Tenkawa but it seems it's not just a Debian problem, not Thinkpad T520 integrated
• 1927[16:22:03] <Tenkawa> ahh ...
• 1928[16:22:35] <Tenkawa> thats one of those gpio/spi/i2c type ones
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• 1933[16:24:37] <Tenkawa> Wolf20180323_2: do a lspci though and see if its listed
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• 1935[16:25:12] <Wolf20180323_2> Tenkawa no it doesn't work neither in Debian and in Windows 7
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• 1937[16:25:38] <Tenkawa> well windows 7 doesnt have lspci
• 1938[16:25:56] <Wolf20180323_2> Tenkawa yeah but we already tried everything it's not recognized
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• 1940[16:26:04] <Wolf20180323_2> Tenkawa it looks like I've no webcam at all
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• 1943[16:26:26] <Wolf20180323_2> Tenkawa perhaps it's an hardware problem or something serious cause I can't get it to work
• 1944[16:26:44] <Tenkawa> you could be getting a dmesg failure message too.. so dmesg | grep -i error
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• 1946[16:27:08] <Tenkawa> i check stuff like that when I'm looking for weird glitches
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• 1951[16:29:22] <stemid> hey guys. after upgrading from wheezy to stretch I ran into some issues with perl scripts. anyone seen this? replaced-url
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• 1953[16:30:38] <stemid> I mean that github PR had a corresponding bug on the debian tracker. but it was for an older version and not really applicable in my situation.
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• 1955[16:30:50] <stemid> replaced-url
• 1956[16:30:51] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 1957[16:30:52] <sine0> tw: when you use virtualbox and setup the guest tools where does the automount normally reside in the debian file structure
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• 1960[16:32:53] <tw> sine0: I don't use an automount daemon so I configure fstab.
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• 1962[16:33:01] <tw> My guess would be /media
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• 1965[16:33:33] <sine0> hmm nothing in mount. ok so what would i look for to manually mount it
• 1966[16:33:42] <sine0> would it be the name given in virtualbox
• 1967[16:33:49] <greycat> !stretch-vbox-guest
• 1968[16:33:49] <dpkg> i heard stretch-vbox-guest is Ilyas> oh, I got it working! I followed this guide replaced-url
• 1969[16:33:59] <sine0> kewl
• 1970[16:34:16] <sine0> how did you know that was there
• 1971[16:34:27] <tw> memory.
• 1972[16:34:34] <sine0> elite
• 1973[16:35:07] <tw> and yes, it's the same name with type vboxsf
• 1974[16:35:17] <greycat> I remembered it from yesterday or the day before, when someone else asked about "full screen in virtualbox", and at that time I did something like /msg dpkg listkeys guest
• 1975[16:35:57] <tw> Huh, listkeys. wasn't aware of that guy.
• 1976[16:35:59] <tw> Handy.
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• 1982[16:37:21] <Ilyas> lo?
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• 1984[16:37:32] * Ilyas stops dpkg
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• 1986[16:37:33] <tw> yeah, that doc is literally just running the guest extensions installer.
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• 1988[16:38:04] <sine0> that site is spamming me like a goodun
• 1989[16:38:08] <greycat> If there's a better set of instructions somewhere else, then change the factoid to have those.
• 1990[16:38:08] <tw> Oh, they also installed dkms.
• 1991[16:38:17] <tw> No, it works just fine.
• 1992[16:38:45] <sine0> I am using debian without X so I thought that dkms compiled would be enough
• 1993[16:38:51] <sine0> for shared folers
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• 1997[16:39:02] <sine0> direct0ries I mean
• 1998[16:39:22] <tw> The next step up is reading the vbox manual, which is actually pretty well laid out, just not as many pretty pretty pictures.
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• 2000[16:39:39] <sine0> yea sites down, will check local folder
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• 2113[17:23:54] <ksk> teclo-: tell me more ;)
• 2114[17:23:59] <watom> hey. i've got netfilter-persistent on debian 9 but it fail to start at boot time. manual start is fine...
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• 2119[17:24:10] <watom> is like something is not ready to load iptables things
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• 2122[17:24:32] <watom> sounds like a bug in the package service?
• 2123[17:24:35] <somiaj> check the logs from systemd
• 2124[17:24:44] <somiaj> well check the logs, see what is failing
• 2125[17:25:22] <watom> the main process
• 2126[17:25:37] <watom> netfilter-persistent.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
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• 2128[17:26:21] <watom> i guess the service dependences are not that good
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• 2130[17:27:00] <somiaj> well why did it fail, there should be more info in the logs.
• 2131[17:27:07] <watom> there isn't
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• 2133[17:27:21] <watom> if by logs you mean journalctl -u netfilter-persistent
• 2134[17:27:27] <watom> is just the main process of the service failing
• 2135[17:27:47] <watom> run-parts: /usr/share/netfilter-persistent/plugins.d/15-ip4tables exited with return code 1
• 2136[17:28:02] <watom> all it does is iptables-restore
• 2137[17:28:22] <watom> so is like iptables is not ready to load
• 2138[17:28:24] <petn-randall> So now the log message trickle in, one by one ...
• 2139[17:28:39] <petn-randall> watom: How are you testing it manually?
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• 2141[17:28:48] <watom> systemctl start netfilter-persistent
• 2142[17:28:56] <watom> after the boot
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• 2147[17:31:23] <watom> replaced-url
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• 2152[17:31:55] <watom> why is network-pre before and wants sounds confusing
• 2153[17:32:10] <watom> is like asking to the same thing to be loaded and to start before it
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• 2159[17:33:23] <watom> replaced-url
• 2160[17:33:24] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 2161[17:33:40] <watom> i guess i should try to swap network-pre with just network
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• 2172[17:42:18] <watom> i did cp /lib/systemd/system/netfilter-persistent.service /etc/systemd/system and edited removing -pre . i reboot
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• 2181[17:46:18] <watom> it fixed
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• 2221[18:04:22] <heibol> I've a doubt, I've a notebook with debian, the ssd has 30gb, I want to remplace it with another ssd with 64gb, can I cloning with dd to the new ssd having free space? I'll have some problem with the uuid?
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• 2232[18:07:31] <heibol> I'll need the free space to other OS*
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• 2242[18:12:02] <jhutchins_wk> heibol: I would not use DD, I would use rsync, and you need to boot to some other medium like a live image or clonezilla.
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• 2244[18:13:30] <jhutchins_wk> heibol: clonezilla is primarily a disk/partition clone tool, not exactly what you need but it would work as the base for rsync.
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• 2248[18:14:47] <jhutchins_wk> heibol: Then again, if you want to clone the 30g partition and leave the rest of the space free for something else, dd or clonezilla would work - again, you need to boot to other media.
• 2249[18:15:07] <jhutchins_wk> heibol: No need to clone your swap, just make a new partition.
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• 2256[18:17:27] <heibol> jhutchins_wk: thanks jhutchins_wk. I'll try clonezilla next monday,
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• 2366[19:12:54] <annadane> backports are upgraded via regular old apt upgrade, yes?
• 2367[19:13:40] <greycat> yes, I believe so
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• 2375[19:18:14] <ksk> sure thing.
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• 2400[19:35:26] <jhutchins_wk> annadane: Yes, once installed they'll be kept up-to-date.
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• 2431[19:55:50] <aindilis> hi I installed Debian 9.4 and forced UEFI, but found out my bios is only an Award and it doesn't ask me again when installing the disk. is there a way to choose MBR?
• 2432[19:55:53] <aindilis> when installing
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• 2434[19:57:08] <Brigo> aindilis, i am not sure it that is posible. MBR and UEFI uses different disk partitioning.
• 2435[19:57:27] <aindilis> Brigo is there a way to revert the force UEFI?
• 2436[19:57:52] <Brigo> aindilis, you mean withount repartitioning?
• 2437[19:58:00] <Brigo> and resintalling?
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• 2439[19:58:17] <aindilis> no, I can just repartition and reinstall?
• 2440[19:58:18] <Brigo> not really sure, but i don't think so.
• 2441[19:58:27] <aindilis> that's fine with me
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• 2443[19:58:50] <aindilis> but how do you choose MBR in the repartitioning? I suppose I could load up live and partition that way
• 2444[19:58:51] <aindilis> right?
• 2445[19:58:53] <aindilis> gparted
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• 2447[20:00:11] <Brigo> aindilis, i think theinstaller should take care of that, but not really sure. Sorry i think i am not much usefull :-/
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• 2450[20:00:28] <aindilis> no, you've been a great help, ty!
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• 2504[20:26:03] <jhutchins_wk> aindilis: You might just complete the install and see if it boots.
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• 2508[20:26:25] <jhutchins_wk> aindilis: If not, boot the installer in rescue mode and see what's actually been done to the disk.
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• 2510[20:26:42] <jhutchins_wk> aindilis: THe problem is that with Debian you usually only run the installer once per box.
• 2511[20:27:05] <greycat> "problem"
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• 2515[20:28:49] <jhutchins_wk> ...problem getting help with the installer.
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• 2537[20:37:15] <ov3rmind> hello great guys! it's a pleasure tc with us, very thanks for all great help and knownledge share during a lot of time
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• 2545[20:40:43] <ov3rmind> someone known if exist a good guide to create a boot-tp (bootps)with dnsmasq for some debian server with some raspies inside a small network? i planing do that!
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• 2548[20:41:16] <kenjax> hello! does anyone know if there is a line command to update bios? (not interested in the usb method)
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• 2551[20:42:05] <greycat> wouldn't that depend on the machine?
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• 2560[20:47:19] <t3st3r> kenjax> for some machines flashrom could do the trick. But its not an official vendor tool, so watch out.
• 2561[20:48:13] <greycat> you just missed him
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• 2571[20:56:53] <t3st3r> greycat> darn, really.
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• 2575[21:00:11] <xdruppi> i've tried out GNOME, Xfce and KDE, none of them feel comfortable, what should I do?
• 2576[21:00:36] <greycat> Try regular window managers?
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• 2580[21:05:36] <xdruppi> greycat like?
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• 2583[21:06:03] <greycat> well, everyone is going to recommend whichever one *they* use
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• 2588[21:08:04] * greycat tries and fails to find a command to list all the packages that "Provides: x-window-manager"
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• 2590[21:08:39] <tw> You'd have to be more specific about how it's uncomfortable. I guess there's LXDE, but if your problem is with the file manager or settings menu, changing window manager/desktop environment probably won't change much.
• 2591[21:08:52] <greycat> Ah, here we go: they cleverly named it "apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager"
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• 2595[21:12:45] <Tenkawa> brb... I want to try some of these wm's
• 2596[21:12:47] <Tenkawa> heheh
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• 2606[21:17:15] <oblio> halo, what package in buster provides npm?
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• 2608[21:17:36] <oblio> 'npm' doesn't seem to be available or found for some reason
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• 2611[21:17:53] <greycat> It's in sid. Backport it, or wait for it to be un-buggy, or use upstream.
• 2612[21:18:28] <greycat> The sid and jessie versions are the same though, so that might be a hell of a long wait.
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• 2626[21:26:42] <BobBarker> is there a way for me to scan through my system directories (/usr, /bin, /lib, etc) for files that are not part of debian packages?
• 2627[21:26:52] <BobBarker> is there an available script to do that?
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• 2629[21:27:09] <greycat> !cruft
• 2630[21:27:10] <dpkg> rumour has it, cruft is a program to look over your system for anything that shouldn't be there, but is; or for anything that should be there, but isn't. To install it, type apt-get install cruft. It takes a while to run.
• 2631[21:27:15] <BobBarker> nice
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• 2675[21:55:46] <inook> can somewone help me mount a webdev(nextcloud) please!!
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• 2705[22:11:49] <inook> can somewone help me mount a webdev(nextcloud) please!!
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• 2707[22:12:04] <Sveta> inook, in #debian or in ##linux ?
• 2708[22:12:31] <inook> Sveta raspbian stretch(debiamn)
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• 2716[22:15:13] <jhutchins_wk> inook: Not Debian.
• 2717[22:15:19] <jhutchins_wk> !raspian
• 2718[22:15:20] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. replaced-url
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• 2730[22:21:42] <rodskagg> hi. i'm running debian stretch and i can't switch back from cinnamon to gnome. i log out, select gnome from the dropdown and log in, but it's still cinnamon.
• 2731[22:21:50] <rodskagg> is there a fix for this?
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• 2741[22:26:53] <AnGe7> hello all
• 2742[22:27:13] <AnGe7> i try to set my debian in French (gnome-shell) but doesnt work...
• 2743[22:27:25] <AnGe7> but in settings i set in french.. .
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• 2751[22:34:07] <rodskagg> god, debian stables is anything but stable.
• 2752[22:34:19] <rodskagg> installed cinnamon and now i can't switch back.
• 2753[22:34:36] <rodskagg> i log out, click gnome, log back in, still cinnamon.
• 2754[22:34:50] <rodskagg> i remove cinnamon, can't log in at all.
• 2755[22:35:01] <rodskagg> had to reinstall it just to use debian.
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• 2757[22:35:24] <rodskagg> not the only problem i've encountered with debian either.
• 2758[22:35:31] <rodskagg> big dissapointment.
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• 2803[23:10:04] <Wolf20180323_2> Hey guys to all the ones who tried to help me I had long chats on ##ibmthinkpad
• 2804[23:10:18] <Wolf20180323_2> Eventually we figured it out, my laptop has no webcam at all!
• 2805[23:11:19] <Wolf20180323_2> It's a special version of T520 that comes from the factory without webcam, no wonder Debian couldn't use it, as well as Windows. Well it has been funny to figure out the truth :°D. Thank anyone for the support, you're nice as ever and I'm happy to be on Debian, see ya!
• 2806[23:11:34] <a_duck> i've got some opengl code that worked on jessie that i just can't get to run on stretch. it seems that i'm getting opengl version 1.3 when i run glew and the renderer is reported as "Mesa DRI Unknown Intel Chipset" (I have a sandybridge i5)
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• 2810[23:12:50] <a_duck> if i don't use glew (or any functions not in opengl 1, then i get version is reported as 3.0, and a renderer of "Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile"
• 2811[23:13:19] <a_duck> glxgears, and supertuxkart are running quite happily though
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