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4[00:02:36] <edm> dear gurus, i have a headless system running
jessie. I can't get pulseaudio running as a service
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7[00:03:09] <edm> i can get it running from the command line
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33[00:14:25] <ksx4system> how often does security team update
Chromium package?
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51[00:21:47] <jmcnaught> ksx4system:
replaced-url
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78[00:32:56] <ksx4system> jmcnaught: thank you
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91[00:36:37] <okee> jmcnaught> I am having trouble getting b
blkid for the SSD. Any idea what is wrong? It isn't showing
up.replaced-url
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105[00:41:16] <jmcnaught> okee: has the SSD been formatted at
all?
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106[00:41:30] <okee> jmcnaught> No.
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108[00:41:50] <okee> jmcnaught> I was just trying to create
an entry in fstab.
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109[00:42:09] <jmcnaught> okee: does it show with
"lsblk" ?
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111[00:42:32] <okee> jmcnaught> yes
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113[00:43:02] <okee> jmcnaught> shows up as sdb 1.9T
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115[00:43:59] <jmcnaught> okee: cool. i still think you should
do a backup to an external harddrive before you start moving stuff
around
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117[00:44:28] <okee> jmcnaught> Things are already backed up,
and I don't have an external hard drive.
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119[00:44:45] <markybob> then unplug the other drive
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124[00:45:09] <okee> So how do I format sdb?
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125[00:45:24] <markybob> the installer will do it for you
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127[00:45:54] <okee> markybob> Don't have an installer,
so what now? The only installer is for windows.
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128[00:45:59] <markybob> i feel like i missed something. i did
just wake up from a nap but i remember our previous discussion
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129[00:46:14] <okee> markybob> Windows stole your childhood.
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132[00:47:04] <markybob> yeah i obviously missed something. i
thought you were trying to get rid of windows last we talked.
i'll let jmcnaught handle this :P
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135[00:48:34] <jmcnaught> okee: you could use fdisk to make a
partition on the SSD, and then mkfs to format the partition. or
maybe use gnome disks utility if you prefer a GUI
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137[00:49:21] <okee> jmcnaught> Is the fdisk done at the
command line, within the current Debian system?
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139[00:49:57] <jmcnaught> okee: sure, or from a live disk if you
have a reason.
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148[00:54:35] <okee> What is a GPT partition table? And how is
that different than the 'n' option?
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152[00:56:31] <okee> jmcnaught> Should I use the default of
2048 for the first sector?
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172[01:03:52] <jmcnaught> okee:
replaced-url
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175[01:05:11] <jmcnaught> okee: presumably the defaults
presented by fdisk are sane, it's not something i use very
often though
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178[01:06:08] <okee> jmcnaught> The problem I have is
figuring out what to use as the last sector. I want multiple
partitions, so the last sector is probably not appropriate:
replaced-url
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179[01:06:37] <okee> jmcnaught> Ignore the URL. I meant to
paste the last sector of 4000797326
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180[01:07:44] <jmcnaught> okee: doesn't fdisk let you use
unit suffixes like 100G for 100 GB?
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182[01:08:23] <okee> jmcnaught> No, you have to set your
first and last sector, and I have no idea how those equate to
storage.
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190[01:12:24] <jmcnaught> okee: when fdisk asks for last sector
it says you can use +size{K,M,G,T,P}
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191[01:12:45] <jmcnaught> okee: so you can put +100G for a 100
GB partition. or use something else like gparted
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205[01:20:15] <cluelessperson> Okay, I'm trying cinnamon,
but I get the error, that it's running in "software
rendering mode"
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206[01:20:23] <cluelessperson> can someone help me figure out
why?
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215[01:22:35] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: what kind of graphics
card do you have?
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237[01:30:18] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, intel integrated.
Intel HD 5500
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243[01:31:53] <okee> What's a good way to show the size of
other drives at the command line? By other drives I mean "not
Debian".
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244[01:32:41] <afernandez_> Not debian drives?
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245[01:32:49] <afernandez_> what are debian drives?
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247[01:34:00] <tatiana> df -h ?
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248[01:34:05] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: are you getting errors
in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log? There's an updated
xserver-xorg-video-intel package in jessie-backports that might help
(backports kernel might help too)
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253[01:36:46] <awwal> cluelessperson, do you choose explicitly
rendering mode within your DM?
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260[01:37:37] <afernandez_> okee: sudo /sbin/fdisk -l |grep
Disk|awk '{print $2, $3}'|egrep -v
'identifier|type'
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261[01:37:48] <awwal> I dont have cinnamon right now but I
remember it have 2 entries cinnamon/cinnamon rendering mode in DM
list
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263[01:38:48] <awwal> seems that it happens when the gpu
doesn't have hardware acceleration capabilities, cluelessperson
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264[01:38:51] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, where's the
jessie-backports source?
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268[01:41:35] <awwal> cluelessperson, what this command returns?
Yes or Not? glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
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269[01:41:44] <awwal> yes/no
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271[01:41:53] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: jessie-backports is on
the regular mirror network, so you can copy one of your other
sources and change "jessie" to
"jessie-backports" for example.
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274[01:42:58] <awwal> cluelessinfo, run this command glxinfo |
grep "direct rendering"
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275[01:43:21] <awwal> if Yes, hardware acceleration is enabled
there, in No not enabled
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278[01:44:40] <JamesHarris> With wpa_client I can see there are
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288[01:51:58] <okee> afernandez_> Thanks. How could I modify
the command, so that it also shows the size of the partitions?
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294[01:53:07] <afernandez_> sudo /sbin/fdisk -l will show you a
lot of things okee
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295[01:53:33] <varu-> has anyone ever booted deb with gpxe over
http before? if so, how is it done? i'm assuming i need to
build some sort of chain, but not sure what i'd need to include
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296[01:53:51] <afernandez_> or lke tatiana said df -h or df -hT
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301[01:55:32] <BlenderPro> I chmod and chown a folder to have
complete control of it 777 and my username and same username for
group, that folder is empty but I can't even move it to the
trash can as user why?
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302[01:56:18] <okee> What does W95 Ext'd (LBA) mean?
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303[01:56:29] <okee> Supposedly this is a file type.
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304[01:57:05] <nkuttler> BlenderPro: ls -ld <dir> ?
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305[01:58:03] <BlenderPro> nkuttler, let me see
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308[01:58:57] <okee> Do I need to bother with swap partitions on
the SSD? I only have one big SSD, and a bunch of smaller drives that
I am copying on to the SSD, in different partitions.
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309[01:58:58] <BlenderPro> nkuttler, you want me to copy that
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311[01:59:25] <nkuttler> BlenderPro: one line is fine, sure
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315[02:00:06] <usuariovirtual> I'll past it with this nick
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316[02:00:11] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, awwal it's
enabled
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318[02:00:14] <teraflops> haha
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319[02:00:31] <usuariovirtual> drwxrwxrwx 2 usuariovirtual
usuariovirtual 4096 May 28 15:19 documentos/
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320[02:00:33] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, I added
jessie-backports but I nothing wanted to upgrade, so I'm not
sure how to fix this
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324[02:01:04] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: see the instructions
for backports again. you need to install specific packages from it
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325[02:01:24] <usuariovirtual> this me blenderpro to whoever
sent me that message
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330[02:01:45] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: if other desktops or
applications are able to use the direct rendering, it could be a
cinnamon bug. which release of debian are you using?
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333[02:01:57] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, I don't
understand why I'm supposed to install something from backports
myself. It's intel HD 5500, these are one of the most common
ever
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335[02:02:08] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, I had the same problem
with gnome
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336[02:02:17] <usuariovirtual> nkuttler: I pasted it the text
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337[02:02:19] <nkuttler> usuariovirtual: and when you rmdir
documentos ?
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338[02:02:33] <usuariovirtual> nkuttler: I do rm -rf
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339[02:02:38] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell cluelessperson about bdo
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340[02:02:40] <nkuttler> usuariovirtual: or that
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342[02:02:49] <usuariovirtual> nkuttler: but can't do it
from gui either
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343[02:03:02] <nkuttler> usuariovirtual: please paste.debian.net
command + output
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345[02:03:04] <usuariovirtual> nkuttler: I do it from terminal
as this same user
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346[02:03:09] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: see the note from
dpkg, and also the instructions on the backports site. The package I
mentioned earlier was xserver-xorg-video-intel but a newer kernel
may also help
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348[02:03:27] <nkuttler> usuariovirtual: and also touch foo
please
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349[02:03:43] <usuariovirtual> nkuttler: sorry what is foo
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351[02:03:50] <nkuttler> usuariovirtual: literally foo
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352[02:03:56] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, ah, thanks
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353[02:03:58] <afernandez_> ha ha ha
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354[02:04:03] <afernandez_> sorry I had to laugh
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356[02:04:39] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught,
xserver-xorg-video-intel already installed and newest version
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359[02:06:53] <usuariovirtual> nkuttler:
replaced-url
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360[02:07:34] <nkuttler> usuariovirtual: well, you don't
have permission to write to the parent directory
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361[02:07:45] <usuariovirtual> nkuttler: that's true
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363[02:07:48] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: please make a paste
with the command used and the output, the command you just tried and
"apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel"
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364[02:07:51] <usuariovirtual> nkuttler: it's owned by root
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368[02:09:05] <usuariovirtual> nkuttler: how did you see?
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371[02:10:02] <jon777> the diddler
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375[02:11:07] <nkuttler> usuariovirtual: you couldn't write
to it
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376[02:11:10] <nkuttler> usuariovirtual: see man touch
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388[02:20:56] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught,
hastebin.com/ujaqayocex
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389[02:21:25] <cluelessperson>
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390[02:22:16] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, sorry, it's,
replaced-url
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404[02:26:36] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: the paste displays
nothing for me
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405[02:27:07] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, this one is correct.
replaced-url
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408[02:27:32] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: no that pastebin is
broken for me because it requires javascript, please use
replaced-url
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413[02:29:13] <rabies> hello peoples
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416[02:31:06] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, raw, no javascript,
replaced-url
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418[02:32:29] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: are you using "-t
jessie-backports" when you install the package?
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427[02:37:16] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, I just did, and it
installed
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428[02:37:27] <cluelessperson> restarted, and graphical glitches
whenever it's used
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429[02:37:30] <cluelessperson> :/
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430[02:37:36] <cluelessperson> I'm trying not to go back to
linux mint
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432[02:38:13] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: as i said a newer
kernel from backports may also help
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433[02:39:13] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: or if the only problem
you had as that cinnamon says it's using software rendering but
otherwise it performs fine, you could go back to the older package
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435[02:40:17] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, I don't really
understand all that's going on. Basically, all of these
features worked fine in linux mint, no issues with chrome, vlc, or
whatever
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438[02:41:15] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: i don't know what
version of the intel gpu drivers mint comes with. I know
there's a newer version of the intel video drivers in backports
for people who have issues on newer cards (that's what you
installed)
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439[02:41:31] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: you could also try a
newer kernel following dpkg's <bdo kernel> factoid
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442[02:42:06] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: all i know about your
problem is that cinnamon says it's using software rendering,
but glxinfo reports direct rendering
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449[02:49:01] <varu-> succeeded booting via gpxe http
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450[02:49:46] <varu-> just need to load the kernel (linux) and
initrd.gz from the pxe debian-installer with the 'kernel'
and 'initrd' parameters in gpxe (after getting network
going)
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451[02:49:54] <varu-> then hit boot and it's a wonderful
weekend
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452[02:50:37] <okee> What tools do we have for labeling a
partition after the partition is created?
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460[02:58:19] <awwal> cluelessperson, if you try a newer kernel
and your issue persists so seems that your issue is cinnamon DE
related. check if there is #debian-cinnamon specific, or you may
just want to try another DE (xfce, lxde, kde or mate)...
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461[02:58:28] <okee> Can someone tell me how to fix the
following error message
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465[02:59:12] <jmcnaught> okee: is /dev/sdb1 an ext4 filesystem?
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466[02:59:32] <okee> jmcnaught> I made it an ext4 in the
fstab
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467[03:00:45] <okee> jmcnaught> This is my fstab
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471[03:02:13] <jmcnaught> okee: putting it in /etc/fstab does
not format it. You need to use mkfs.ext4
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477[03:03:53] <awwal> cluelessperson, also does GDM3 offers you
a login to cinnamon in normal mode or just software rendering? you
may have chosen rendering mode as default x session (?)
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487[03:09:12] <okee> jmcnaught> What size do I put for the
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493[03:11:02] <jmcnaught> okee: you only need to put a size with
mkfs if you don't want to fill the device you're
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549[03:51:32] <ryouma> what is group shadow for? slock seems to
be setgid it, and i wonder if that is why i am not able to kill it
as a normal user
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551[03:52:03] <ryouma> (i call slock at specific times, and want
to kill previous instances before i call it)
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558[03:56:11] <okee> Is there any benefit in creating 2 swap
partitions on the new SSD?
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565[03:57:52] <NotJimCarrey> i have a NAS formatted ext4
connected via iscsi. the problem is that I keep getting inode
errors. should I be using a different filesystem?
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567[03:58:19] <Arcanos> OK, I have an issue. I have 2 Drives in
my system, an SSD @ 250GB and a 5200RPM HDD @ 300 GB, What is the
best way to partition this system?
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572[04:00:56] <ryouma> root, swap, and home should be fast. if
you have videos, they can be slow.
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573[04:01:56] <Arcanos> I dont have any videos its all youtube
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575[04:03:28] <ryouma> i don't know if there is value in
having home on a separate spindle or not. probably not.
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576[04:03:40] <ryouma> (guessing)
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579[04:06:00] <okee> How do I make sdb3 a swap partition?
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583[04:08:13] <avis-> how do i inform debian i want mls security
selinux on jessie ?
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584[04:08:28] <avis-> i can't make heads or tails over
official documentation for this issue
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586[04:10:08] <polyzen> ryouma, I've found that not to be
the case. firefox, steam, and such use home a fair amount. moved
home and var to my hdd to spare my ssd, but it's not worth it
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588[04:11:24] <ryouma> polyzen: ah, so my guess was right
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589[04:15:22] <polyzen> NotJimCarrey, ext4 should be as stable
as any other..
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601[04:20:15] <MaBunny> okee are you in the installation
window???
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603[04:20:35] <okee> MaBunny> I am at the command line.
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605[04:21:02] <MaBunny> theres a command for making a partition
swap
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607[04:21:07] <MaBunny> i dont remember it
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608[04:21:09] <MaBunny> wait
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613[04:23:06] <polyzen> mkswap
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614[04:23:13] <polyzen> _moogs
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615[04:23:16] <polyzen> MaBunny
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616[04:23:20] <polyzen> sorry _learningpapa_
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617[04:23:26] <polyzen> *facepalm*
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619[04:23:40] <MaBunny> yeah thts it
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621[04:24:00] <MaBunny> i had never used it though...so didnt
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623[04:24:06] * polyzen has no swap
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624[04:24:08] <MaBunny> okee man is your man now
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629[04:27:26] <MaBunny> and okee having one larger swap is
better than having 2 smaller swaps
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630[04:27:49] <MaBunny> you might even take up the ram in case
of tht
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631[04:28:50] <okee> MaBunny> The SSD is 2 TB, and large
enough to backup all other drives on the computer. There are already
two other swaps on the computer, and I am wondering whether I still
need one on the SSD? The SSD is replacing a failed Debian drive that
needs to come out right away.
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632[04:29:40] <MaBunny> im not the expert...but if you hav two
swaps already...then you dont need one in the ssd maybe
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647[04:39:02] <avis-> how do i inform debian i want mls security
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649[04:41:18] <jmcnaught> avis-:
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650[04:41:27] <avis-> i can't make heads or tails over
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652[04:42:48] <avis-> on how to accomplish the mls side
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656[04:44:32] <jmcnaught> avis-: yeah i find selinux difficult
too. you might find apparmor easier, not sure if it does teh MLS
stuff you're looking for
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661[04:45:45] <okee> ok. I have a file system. Can I now rsync
the drives?
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667[04:47:50] <MaBunny> hey guys is there a good C++ compiler
for debian...except Codeblocks and KDEDevelop??/
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668[04:48:05] <MaBunny> one tht has plugins like git and
cppcheck
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680[04:52:17] <okee> Does anyone know what is going on with my
hard drive? I got an error message indicating skipping non-regular
files "sdd1"
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682[04:52:36] <okee> I am trying to copy the drive to the new
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683[04:53:26] <RoyK> do you have a backupppp?
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684[04:53:32] <markybob> okee: yeah. that's not how you use
rsync. you use folders, not drives
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686[04:53:52] <RoyK> SMART sthff w
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687[04:53:57] <markybob> okee: we've talked about this
okay. c'mon. you should have been able to google rsync by now.
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689[04:54:30] <markybob> okee: rsync -aP /folder/foo /dest/foo
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690[04:54:38] <markybob> not drives
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692[04:55:19] <okee> markybob> Wouldn't I be better off
cloning just the Debian drive, and leave the other drives to copying
data?
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693[04:55:43] <avis-> just though a little tinkerin' i was
able to find the mls and enforcing reference for mls. its proof it
pays to get a diploma :D i have one. its high school. they gave me
the easy test.
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696[04:56:00] <markybob> okee: wow. that's what i suggested
in the first place with clonezilla. then you changed your mind.
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697[04:56:10] <markybob> okee: are you just fucking with us? all
day?
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698[04:56:23] <tiznotbutter> Hes confused
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699[04:56:41] <tiznotbutter> I think he thinks he is going to
copy the whole disk
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700[04:56:44] <polyzen> lol
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701[04:57:03] <markybob> okee: this is getting to the point
where i'm angry because i think you are.
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702[04:57:13] <cluelessperson> Is there a way to restart linux
without having to re-enter encyrption key to decrypt the partition?
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703[04:57:21] <cluelessperson> just restart linux without
restarting the hardware?
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704[04:57:32] <polyzen> cluelessperson, kexec, I hear
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707[04:58:17] <cluelessperson> Another question, I installed
cinnamon desktop with --no-install-recommends
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708[04:58:25] <cluelessperson> however now it won't start
automatically at boot
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709[04:58:25] <okee> markybob> Earlier someone thought that
creating a separate file system might be helpful, so I had feedback
on here that was both ways. I could see where the separate file
system would be helpful for the windows drive that I am not keeping,
but probably not the linux one.
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710[04:58:27] <cluelessperson> why not?
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712[04:58:43] <cluelessperson> I just don't want to install
all the other bullshit apps that people include with their desktop
managers.
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713[04:59:02] <tiznotbutter> okee: yu ahud drop it
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714[04:59:39] <okee> tiznotbutter> Can read what you typed.
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717[05:00:05] <okee> meant to say can't read what you
typed.
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718[05:00:13] <tiznotbutter> Idk
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719[05:00:23] <tiznotbutter> Dun worry not important
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720[05:00:29] <markybob> okee: you can't read what we type.
seriously. a lot of smart people have tried to help you. we solved
your problem several hours ago
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724[05:00:49] <markybob> i even took a nap and we're still
talking about this
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725[05:00:50] <tiznotbutter> Haha
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726[05:01:03] <tiznotbutter> Double haha
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730[05:02:17] <polyzen> lol
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731[05:03:21] <polyzen> cluelessperson, I use startx after I
login, so I have `exec $wm` in my .xinitrc
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735[05:05:38] <tiznotbutter> cluelessperson: are you talking
about whole disk encrption?
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736[05:06:43] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: probably what
you're missing is a display manager likd gdm3 or lightdm.
recommends are recommended though
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737[05:07:37] <polyzen> actually no "exec"
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738[05:07:44] <sje46> I remember a command-line curses dm I used
once
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739[05:07:56] <polyzen>
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742[05:10:14] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, Is there a way to
install required, needed packages, but not the BS recommend apps?
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744[05:11:26] <cluelessperson> What's the default desktop
manager used by debian?
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746[05:12:24] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: you can read about the
difference between depends, recommends, and suggests here:
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748[05:13:10] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: if you'd rather
not get all of the recommends, you can manually look at the
recommends for the packages you want to install, and choose which
ones to install
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754[05:19:13] <tiznotbutter> cluelessperson: jmcnaught literally
had the exact answer you need
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755[05:19:44] <tiznotbutter> Go thru the recomend depend list
and see what the packages are
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756[05:20:11] <cluelessperson> okay
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757[05:20:16] <tiznotbutter> Theres no switch for make-it-work
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758[05:20:25] <cluelessperson> anyone know how to kill the
desktop environment back to terminal?
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759[05:20:28] <tiznotbutter> The recommends arent usually bloat
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760[05:20:44] <tiznotbutter> If it is you should prolly abandon
the package all togeather
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762[05:21:17] <cluelessperson> tiznotbutter, ALL the desktop
environments have this bloat
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763[05:21:21] <cluelessperson> gnome is terrible
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764[05:21:51] <jmcnaught> are you worried about storage space,
or menu clutter?
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765[05:22:13] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, storage, unknown code
running on my system, bloated menus, things I don't need
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766[05:22:14] <km0201> yeah, it's pretty bad... kinda sad..
i used to lvoe gnome .2.x... not a huge fan of mate, as it
constantly freezes
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768[05:23:21] <jmcnaught> i've never installed gnome but
haven't had any problems with the task-gnome-desktop's set
of recommends. In Debian that almost always means "stuff most
people would want"
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769[05:24:06] <jmcnaught> errr i mean i've never install
cinnamon...
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770[05:24:23] <tiznotbutter> Just stop using gui
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771[05:24:31] <tiznotbutter> Its so annoying
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773[05:25:02] <MaBunny> tiznobutter do you code in cli???
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774[05:25:14] <markybob> i do
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775[05:25:17] <cluelessperson> tiznotbutter, so how do I run
chrome?
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777[05:26:03] <MaBunny> no...in a computer without any gui
system...has anyone coded in tht kinda computer
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779[05:26:27] <tiznotbutter> Lolll that was super sarcasm
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780[05:26:27] <markybob> MaBunny: yes. i have. daily.
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782[05:26:45] <tiznotbutter> Damn markybob supa man
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784[05:27:22] <markybob> tiznotbutter: no i'm just old i
guess. what i'm used to. teach old dogs new tricks and such
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785[05:27:31] <MaBunny> ok...sarcasm,idk....and thts cool
markybob
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786[05:28:04] <tiznotbutter> cluelessperson: your worried about
chrome?
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787[05:28:04] <MaBunny> ill try doing so...but i guess ill need
to get up and front with the command line
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788[05:28:38] <sje46> command line is easy. just cd and ls,
that's pretty much all it is
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789[05:28:46] <tiznotbutter> markybob: old? As in you never use
an ide?
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790[05:28:57] <sje46> I've never used one.
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791[05:29:12] <tiznotbutter> sje46: nope
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792[05:29:21] <tiznotbutter> Hahah
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794[05:29:25] <sje46> What is the nope to?
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795[05:29:26] <markybob> tiznotbutter: i have xfce on a laptop.
but not for coding. vi
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796[05:29:27] <cluelessperson> tiznotbutter, how do I start
windows?
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798[05:30:03] <tiznotbutter> Xwindows?
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803[05:31:09] <tiznotbutter> markybob: xfce is preddy... And
your one of them ol vi buffs huh
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804[05:31:12] <cluelessperson> Okay, in all seriousness
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805[05:31:19] <cluelessperson> I installed xorg, cinnamon
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806[05:31:23] <cluelessperson> what's missing to get this
started up?
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808[05:32:01] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: either a display
manager, or logging into a tty and running startx
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809[05:32:10] <markybob> cluelessperson: did you install
task-cinnamon-desktop?
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811[05:32:52] <tiznotbutter> That was prolly part of the
recommends he choose not to install
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813[05:33:43] <tiznotbutter> cluelessperson: i wasnt being
sarcastic? I didnt know if you were serious
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819[05:34:34] <jarray521> For some reason, 'apt-get
update' failed, and I was told to install apt-transport-https.
After installing this package, 'apt-get update' worked.
This was really strange since 'apt-get update' typically
works out of the box. Any comments?
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820[05:35:01] <tiznotbutter> Well then ^
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821[05:35:17] <tiznotbutter> jarray521: thats not alot of info
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822[05:35:30] <jmcnaught> jarray521: are you using a third-party
repository that uses https? Debian repos do not.
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824[05:35:49] <markybob> kernel.org does/can
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826[05:36:21] <jmcnaught> okay, do not by default
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829[05:36:36] <jarray521> No, I'm not using a third party
repo that uses https.
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831[05:37:29] <markybob> jarray521: the real question is do you
have https in sources?
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833[05:37:58] <jmcnaught> jarray521: "grep -iR https
/etc/apt" can help you find out
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835[05:38:25] <jmcnaught> jarray521: or is this a distro based
on Debian?
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837[05:38:35] <cluelessperson> How do I end cinnamon?
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838[05:39:05] <tiznotbutter> Lol
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840[05:39:40] <km0201> end it?
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842[05:39:48] <jarray521> jmcnaught: It appears that I have an
https source. /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nodesource.list:deb
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843[05:40:00] <jarray521> jmcnaught: This is Debian jessie
8.4.0.
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845[05:40:19] <markybob> jarray521: not really. but there's
your why
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847[05:40:29] <jarray521> jmcnaught: Thanks
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849[05:40:49] <tiznotbutter> That was a nice solve
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850[05:40:53] <tiznotbutter> Quik
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851[05:41:01] <jarray521> markybob: I understand the why. What
do you mean by 'not really'?
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853[05:41:24] <markybob> jarray521: once you add third party
things like that it's frankendebian. it's not 8.4
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856[05:41:36] <markybob> !tell jarray521 about frankendebian
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857[05:41:47] <jarray521> I see
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861[05:42:35] <tiznotbutter> Lol story time
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866[05:43:15] <jmcnaught> jarray521: nodesource is a third-party
repo, that's why i asked
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870[05:44:19] <jarray521> I see. It all makes sense now.
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871[05:44:21] <jmcnaught> story time!
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876[05:45:31] <tiznotbutter> I opened that page and immediatly
read they r rude and dont answer our questions
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878[05:46:49] <markybob> i've been accused of that at least
three times today
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880[05:47:07] <MaBunny> haha
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881[05:47:41] <MaBunny> either tht or they are very impatient
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882[05:47:47] <tiznotbutter> markybob: i like you
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884[05:48:08] <tiznotbutter> Usually very impatient
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885[05:48:23] <markybob> tiznotbutter: :)
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887[05:49:05] <tiznotbutter> markybob: do you set a goal each
day of how many people you can make feel MORE frustrated then when
they started
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888[05:49:20] <tiznotbutter> Cuz yu shud
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889[05:49:29] <MaBunny> haha...thts funny
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890[05:49:34] <markybob> tiznotbutter: of course not. i'm
here because i honestly want to help people.
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891[05:49:44] <Kenrin> What is with that story and changing
diapers ?
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892[05:50:15] <tiznotbutter> markybob: thats good too
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894[05:50:18] <markybob> tiznotbutter: plus every day if you
just read what's going on you learn
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897[05:50:54] <dak> blah
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898[05:51:16] <tiznotbutter> markybob: that is 100% correct
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900[05:51:32] <tiznotbutter> I didnt know what cinnamon was till
someone had a problem with it
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902[05:52:05] <tiznotbutter> Im sure its A cuz its trash or B
because the person operating it isnt handling correctly
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903[05:52:27] <tiznotbutter> Im not up on the latest gui
nonsence
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905[05:53:08] <MaBunny> anything in linux cant be trash
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907[05:53:20] <MaBunny> everythings cool
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908[05:53:33] <MaBunny> or maybe wrong english :P
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909[05:53:37] <tiznotbutter> MaBunny: you might be very
correct..
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910[05:53:48] <tiznotbutter> So its B the user
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911[05:54:06] <MaBunny> yeah thts prob the reason
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912[05:54:24] <tiznotbutter> But all the gui 's are
competing to be the prettiest bow
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913[05:54:25] <tiznotbutter> Now
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914[05:54:31] <tiznotbutter> And its yawn
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915[05:54:49] <MaBunny> i like gnome though
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916[05:54:50] <tiznotbutter> Ill be back latr
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918[05:54:56] <tiznotbutter> Me tooo
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919[05:55:00] <tiznotbutter> Its so simple
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921[05:55:06] <tiznotbutter> Pz guys
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922[05:55:14] <tiznotbutter> Pz markybob
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923[05:55:18] <tiznotbutter> Be east
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924[05:55:20] <km0201> man, w/ all the GUI's out there,
surely you can find something that meets your needs
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925[05:55:20] <tiznotbutter> Easy
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927[05:55:45] <MaBunny> enlightment is another good n
lightweight gui
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929[05:55:52] <MaBunny> esp e17
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930[05:56:01] <km0201> MaBunny, i never cared for it much, but
it's certainly got a small footprint
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931[05:56:01] <MaBunny> not the e19
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932[05:56:09] <MaBunny> yeah
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933[05:56:27] <MaBunny> i had tried e19,and it crashed every
couple of mins
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934[05:56:31] <km0201> i've kinda gotten attached to XFCE
the last year or so... but it's become quite the pig compared
to how it was even 3-4yrs ago
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935[05:56:42] <MaBunny> e17 is good though,i heard
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936[05:57:06] <markybob> let's get back on topic
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937[05:57:33] <MaBunny> haha
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938[05:57:53] <km0201> i might have a question in a few minutes.
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939[05:57:58] <km0201> having a helluva time w/ seafile on my
server
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940[05:58:04] <km0201> it runs fine as root but i can't get
it to run as a user.
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941[05:58:25] <km0201> i'm not particularly fond of running
services as root
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949[06:00:03] <cluelessperson> what desktop manager is the
default one?
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950[06:00:09] <cluelessperson> gdm ? lightdm ?
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953[06:00:48] <markybob> cluelessperson: gdm for gnome. lightdm
for xfce. so it depends.
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954[06:01:05] <cluelessperson> for cinnamon?
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955[06:01:06] <km0201> i thought it was lightdm across the board
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956[06:01:10] <km0201> but my quick google foo says otherwise
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957[06:01:12] <markybob> of course kde has kdm.
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958[06:01:19] <markybob> cluelessperson: gdm
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960[06:01:21] <km0201> well yeah
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981[06:12:50] <vahe1> hi all :) how to install the latest
version firefox?
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982[06:13:09] <markybob> vahe1: go to mozilla.debian.net
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986[06:13:48] <Oldcpv3> Hey
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987[06:13:59] <Oldcpv3> Uhh i got this Windows FTP sever....
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988[06:14:01] <Oldcpv3> server*
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990[06:14:21] <MaBunny> kill it
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991[06:14:23] <Oldcpv3> It kinda sucks since it runs on ports
15000-16000, and it gotta restart all the time
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992[06:14:38] <Oldcpv3> What Linux OS should i use?
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993[06:14:42] <markybob> you never know the port? it changes?
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994[06:14:42] <MaBunny> smash the pc
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995[06:14:57] <Oldcpv3> the other ports are blocked...
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996[06:14:58] <markybob> of course we're going to say
debian linux
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998[06:15:10] <Oldcpv3> rlly, port 21 doesn`t work
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999[06:15:25] <MaBunny> try cli,instead of any gui
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1000[06:15:27] <Oldcpv3> called ISP and they said that they
doesn`t block it
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1002[06:15:37] <Oldcpv3> cli? the hell is that
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1003[06:15:39] <markybob> port 21 shouldn't work
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1005[06:15:40] <MaBunny> and then all the distro arre same
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1006[06:15:46] <markybob> port 22 should
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1007[06:16:01] <Oldcpv3> SFTP doesn`t work either, i tested
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1008[06:16:13] <Oldcpv3> and even, my server doesn`t not work
now, idk why
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1009[06:16:14] <markybob> the hell is cli? for real?
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1011[06:16:29] <Oldcpv3> Oh well, i just used windoze in life
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1012[06:16:31] <Oldcpv3> heard of linux
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1013[06:16:34] <MaBunny> command line interface
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1014[06:16:44] <vahe1> markybob: thanks :) W: GPG error:
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1015[06:16:44] <Oldcpv3> thats cmd
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1016[06:17:11] <aedinius> i can't even use windows without a
working cmd/powershell
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1017[06:17:26] <markybob> vahe1: because you didn't read the
whole page. it tells you about installing the key
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1020[06:17:58] <Oldcpv3> why debian has 3 DVDs oh god
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1022[06:18:05] <vahe1> ok ok markybob fix ! thanks :D
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1023[06:18:10] <aedinius> Oldcpv3: real men use netinst
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1025[06:18:28] <Oldcpv3> nah, i`ll just burn them into my dvds
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1026[06:18:34] <markybob> Oldcpv3: netinst is about 250mb. put it
on a usb
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1027[06:18:47] <Oldcpv3> and that netinst should suck, if u
install a OS without any drivers you can`t even connect to the
internet
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1029[06:19:04] <markybob> Oldcpv3: you're so wrong
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1030[06:19:12] <Oldcpv3> windows 7 did that, xp did that
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1031[06:19:15] <aedinius> Oldcpv3: what?
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1032[06:19:27] <aedinius> netinst has drivers
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1033[06:19:38] <markybob> Oldcpv3: netinst with firmware included
is a thing.
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1034[06:19:42] <aedinius> non-free netinst has even non-free
drivers/firmware
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1035[06:19:50] <aedinius> markybob++
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1036[06:20:18] <Oldcpv3> ok, in 15 mins i should be set?
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1038[06:20:24] <Oldcpv3> i`m formatting my machine then
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1039[06:20:38] <markybob> hopefully. hard to say with no hardware
info
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1040[06:21:05] <vahe1> markybob: I did everything right,but
46.0.1 version :( need 50
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1041[06:21:17] <Oldcpv3> i think i should get the drivers first
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1042[06:21:27] <Oldcpv3> or installing it on my NTFS or separate
partition
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1043[06:21:30] <Oldcpv3> then get the drivers
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1044[06:21:34] <aedinius> vahe1: what
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1045[06:21:34] <Oldcpv3> then getting rid of windows
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1046[06:21:35] <awwal> How to prevent update-alternatives from
setting a newly installed pkg as default for X task/feature if that
X task/feature isn't set as default manually?
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1047[06:21:44] <aedinius> vahe1: firefox 50 doesn't exist
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1048[06:22:22] <aedinius> vahe1: 46.0.1 is the latest version of
firefox, period
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1050[06:22:37] <markybob> Oldcpv3: you're making no sense.
vahe1 nor are you
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1052[06:22:59] <awwal> Update-alternatives it self decides to set
the newly installed pkg as default ot the new pkg requests
update-alternatives to do that?
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1053[06:23:28] <vahe1> ah ok thanks aedinius I completely changed
the language on hy_AM but for some reason firefox has remained
english
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1054[06:23:49] <vahe1> how do I change?
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1055[06:24:49] <vahe1> #locale
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1056[06:24:49] <vahe1> LANG=hy_AM
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1057[06:24:49] <vahe1> LANGUAGE=
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1058[06:24:49] <vahe1> LC_CTYPE=hy_AM
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1059[06:24:49] <vahe1> LC_NUMERIC=hy_AM
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1060[06:24:50] <vahe1> LC_TIME=hy_AM
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1061[06:24:50] <vahe1> LC_COLLATE=hy_AM
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1064[06:24:57] <aedinius> vahe1: did you set the language in
firefox? preferences/content/languages
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1066[06:25:13] <aedinius> there's that, too.
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1067[06:25:38] <markybob> it is sunday
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1069[06:25:48] <vahe1> ah sorry
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1070[06:26:03] <aedinius> vahe1: did you set the language in
firefox? preferences/content/languages
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1074[06:27:41] <vahe1> aedinius: yes
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1076[06:27:57] <aedinius> That's all I got. Sorry =/
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1078[06:28:27] <vahe1> now hy_AM but the language is still
English :D
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1079[06:29:02] <vahe1> aedinius: thanks :)
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1083[06:29:36] <themill> is firefox-l10n-hy-am installed?
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1084[06:29:42] <aedinius> vahe1: do you have
firefox-esr-l10n-hy-am installed
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1085[06:29:44] <ftawolf> evening
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1086[06:29:56] <aedinius> or that one
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1087[06:29:56] <vahe1> ah no cool
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1089[06:30:47] <vahe1> aedinius: yeeees! work
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1090[06:30:59] <vahe1> aedinius: thanks~
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1091[06:31:28] <aedinius> whooo
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1093[06:31:35] <aedinius> themill: why do we have different
package names?
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1095[06:31:47] <aedinius> oh right release differences
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1097[06:32:05] <themill> jessie-backports vs sid/stretch
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1098[06:32:23] <aedinius> right
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1099[06:32:34] <Delf> Can't install
"pepperflashplugin-nonfree" :( It says: ERROR: failed to
retrieve status information from google… (first repeat)
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1100[06:32:42] <MaBunny> themill why is codeblocks provided in
the backports
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1102[06:33:00] <themill> MaBunny: why not?
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1103[06:33:02] <MaBunny> they hav a 16.01 ver made in jan this
year
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1105[06:33:25] <MaBunny> their ide is the best...codelite is too
slow
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1106[06:33:25] <cluelessperson> So I installed xorg, cinnamon
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1107[06:33:30] <cluelessperson> but I can't get applciations
to start
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1108[06:33:33] <cluelessperson> what am I doing wrong?
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1110[06:34:07] <MaBunny> i hav to download their package as a
tarball and install via gdebi :(
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1113[06:35:57] <aedinius> cluelessperson: I need more information
than that.
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1114[06:36:30] <markybob> !tell MaBunny about sns
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1115[06:37:14] <MaBunny> i dont understand
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1116[06:37:37] <cluelessperson> aedinius, I installed debian,
then xorg, and cinnamon --no-install-recommends
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1118[06:37:52] <cluelessperson> aedinius, inside cinnamon,
I'll try to start chrome, chromium, and no window opens
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1119[06:38:06] <cluelessperson> nvm, it must not work as root
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1120[06:38:15] <aedinius> don't run as root
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1121[06:38:22] <markybob> cluelessperson: right. and you've
failed to follow what everyone else has told you since
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1123[06:38:57] <MaBunny> actually...my question was why is
codeblocks in the backports...as against jessie
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1124[06:39:48] <markybob> MaBunny: because jessie froze quite a
while ago. new stuff doesn't get added to stable. thus
jessie-backports
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1125[06:40:47] <MaBunny> jessie froze??? you mean no more new
packages or new updates??
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1126[06:41:20] <aedinius>
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1128[06:41:39] <markybob> MaBunny: basically. only security and
major bug fixes
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1129[06:41:41] <aedinius> Not sure if that's the right page
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1131[06:42:03] <aedinius> every debian release is basically an
"lts' release
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1197[07:49:54] <vahe1> how to update mate to version 1.14? debian
8.4
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1198[07:50:06] <vahe1> now 1.8.1
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1199[07:52:00] <jmcnaught> vahe1: generally you don't.
jessie will have the same version of mate and most other packages
for it's whole life, that's how Debian works.
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1200[07:52:33] <jmcnaught> the next version of Debian, Stretch or
9, will have a newer version of mate
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1201[07:53:17] <aedinius> 1.12.1 is in testing righ tnow
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1202[07:53:43] <vahe1> thanks
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1203[07:53:43] <vahe1> it's good,but I do not think that
there is no possibility to upgrade make
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1205[07:54:04] <vahe1> it's freesoftware :D
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1206[07:54:32] <vahe1> 2016-04-08 15:00 MATE
1.14 released
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1208[07:55:15] <aedinius> do you really need the latest version?
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1209[07:56:05] <vahe1> jmcnaught: thanks this question is for
interest as I and 1.8 is enough :) just wondering
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1210[07:56:42] <vahe1> aedinius: not really,just wondering
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1211[07:56:45] <vahe1> :D
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1212[07:57:26] <vahe1> I many time have not used debian, now
explore
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1213[07:57:27] <vahe1> :)
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1214[07:58:34] <vahe1> thanks all :) aedinius jmcnaught
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1215[07:59:04] <aedinius> o^\
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1234[08:20:22] <lxsameer> hey folks, what is the difference
between docker.io package and the one from docker official debian
repository ?
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1239[08:24:22] <jmcnaught> lxsameer: docker.io doesn't
require using a third party repository, so is less likely to cause
problems during major Debian release upgrades, but it will always
lag behind the upstream version
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1241[08:25:31] <lxsameer> jmcnaught: hmmm I read in several
places that docker official version removed static binary and old
lxc-docker tools, what did debian do about it ? I'm on sid
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1243[08:28:16] <jmcnaught> lxsameer: i've only tried out
docker (Debian and upstream packages) for a couple of days, I
can't remember much. You can look for Debian specific stuff in
/usr/share/doc/docker.io/
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1244[08:28:55] <lxsameer> thanks
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1287[09:00:35] <r3m> ,v cfg2html
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1288[09:00:36] <judd> No package named 'cfg2html' was
found in amd64.
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1292[09:02:38] <tiznotbutter> Hellert
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1295[09:03:00] <mariok> Hello guys!
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1296[09:03:51] <Crypto0> hello , im using vbox and i downloaded
kali linux vbox image , when i start the machine its keep saying
loading , please wait
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1298[09:04:19] <Crypto0> i wait 3 hour for it and its didnt fixed
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1299[09:04:43] <tiznotbutter> Crypto0: throw the computer
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1300[09:04:47] <tiznotbutter> Might help
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1302[09:05:43] <mariok> I've recently installed Debian
GNU/Linux testing (stretch) and I want to connect ifupdown with
shorewall.
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1303[09:05:50] <Crypto0> computer = core i5 ram 3ghz ,4gb , 2gb
graphic
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1304[09:06:19] <mariok> a few years ago I tried to to the same
thing with Debian GNU/Linux (jessie) and didn't find any script
to to that.
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1305[09:06:29] <mariok> Is there some supported way to do that
nowadays?
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1306[09:06:41] <mariok> s/to to/to do/
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1309[09:07:50] <mariok> in the past I "developed" my
own unspported script to hack a "ifupdown shorewall
integration" script that does exactly what I want to do.
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1311[09:08:14] <mariok> I'm looking for a supported way to
do that. Is there any way to do that?
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1334[09:22:16] <Wulf> Is there a command to display all files
inside a .deb package?
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1380[09:45:15] <bibek> hello
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1445[10:24:51] <bibek> how do i list all the monitors available
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1452[10:27:19] <Wulf> bibek: xrandr perhaps
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1457[10:30:18] <Pr0metheus> i want to move files from an ext4 to
a ntfs drive and i get the following error: Error while copying
file... Details: Error splicing file: Input/Output Error, any idea
what could be wrong?
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1458[10:30:46] <Wulf> Pr0metheus: what program did you use for
this?
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1459[10:30:57] <Pr0metheus> Files
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1460[10:30:58] <Wulf> Pr0metheus: and it the error while reading
from ext4 or writing ntfs?
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1464[10:31:07] <Pr0metheus> while writing to ntfs
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1465[10:31:08] <Wulf> "Files" does not sound like a
program
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1466[10:31:29] <Pr0metheus> Gnome->Files (doesn't say
anything else in about)
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1469[10:32:02] <Wulf> Pr0metheus: anything in the kernel log?
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1472[10:33:50] <Pr0metheus> one sec i pastebin, there must be
something wrong with sata
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1473[10:35:43] <x-fak> hi
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1474[10:35:55] <Pr0metheus> Wulf:
replaced-url
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1475[10:36:46] <mariok> is there some nice shorewall integration
into network available in Debian ?
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1476[10:37:20] <mariok> I want to configure the firewall zone
inside the networkmanager interface config and shorewall should
recognize this config.
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1480[10:40:20] <Wulf> Pr0metheus: might be broken hard drive
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1481[10:40:51] <bibek> ppphey, so i'm trying to setup vnc on
debian install that doesn't have any monitor attached,
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1482[10:41:01] <bibek> is there a guide/reference i can follow?
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1487[10:50:58] <antzero> is possible to assign an icon to
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1488[10:51:04] <antzero> I hate the placeholder/standard one
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1508[10:57:31] <SpeedyG> hey, i'm having this problem with
gnome extensions site probably lost of people have had already, the
on/off switch does not install the desired extention. both on
chromium and iceweasel... can't find a working solution (yet)
using google, any good pointers where to look ?
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1530[11:06:37] <uprct> Hi, Where I can find debian support
channel ?
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1534[11:08:17] <han-solo> you're on one now
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1535[11:08:19] <han-solo> :)
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1536[11:08:34] <han-solo> <-----------see!
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1538[11:08:54] <han-solo> #debian <--------see!
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1541[11:10:02] <uprct> oooh yeah :D
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1548[11:11:56] <han-solo> so ask, someone will likely answer
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1554[11:13:19] <uprct> I'm from Bulgaria and our official
mirror (ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/) doesn't work.
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1555[11:13:38] <uprct> I just want to tell it to the support
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1569[11:18:45] <han-solo> uprct:
replaced-url
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1571[11:19:05] <han-solo> maybe you'll find what you're
looking for
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1575[11:21:46] <han-solo> for i in `users`;do whois $i;done
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1576[11:21:52] <han-solo> damn
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1577[11:22:29] <uprct> thanks
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1578[11:23:15] <han-solo> sure. No problem
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1586[11:31:36] <bipul> han-solo, which mirror do you use?
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1588[11:31:55] <han-solo> why
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1589[11:31:56] <han-solo> ?
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1590[11:32:56] <antzero> I'm trying to setup Let's
Encrypt on debian 8
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1591[11:33:32] <antzero> Apt says I have unmet dependencies but
they are not going to be installed
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1594[11:33:55] <antzero> I manually installed the python-acme
package it was missing but it keeps giving the same error
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1600[11:36:53] <nkuttler> !tell antzero about errors
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1603[11:38:17] <han-solo> bipul: I've like 11 of them
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1604[11:38:51] <antzero> > Apt says I have unmet dependencies
but they are not going to be installed
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1606[11:38:56] <han-solo> no, just 3 now
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1607[11:39:18] <antzero> Depends: python-acme (>= 0.5.0) but
it is not going to be installed
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1608[11:39:22] <nkuttler> antzero: please paste command + entire
output
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1610[11:39:31] <nkuttler> antzero: on paste.debian.net
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1611[11:39:32] <antzero> But I just installed python-acme 0.6.0
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1613[11:39:56] <dTal> that error message "is not going to be
installed" is so bogus
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1615[11:40:20] <antzero> That's all I have
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1616[11:40:23] <dTal> it accounts for like, 95% of the times I
want to throw Debian out the window
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1617[11:40:53] <dTal> I always end up fixing it my messing around
with apt until its knickers untwist
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1618[11:41:01] <dTal> still don't know what it *actually*
means
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1619[11:41:10] <antzero> I just followed the instructions from
letsencrypt
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1620[11:41:17] <nkuttler> dTal: usually it means that you mixed
sources, or hold packages, or somesuch
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1623[11:41:42] <dTal> yeah but what does it *actually* mean
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1624[11:41:47] <antzero> Added backports as source and tried
running apt-get install python-letsencrypt-apache -t
jessie-backports
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1626[11:41:57] <x-fak> is there any apache guru out there?
I've installed apache on my Jessie server and i was wondering
which module in the active module is responsible of the access.log
logging: paste.debian.net/712179/
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1627[11:42:01] <nkuttler> dTal: you can't install a package
because dependencies aren't available
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1630[11:42:47] <dTal> if that is indeed the case I motion to
change that message to "required dependencies are not
available"
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1631[11:43:02] <nkuttler> antzero: sounds like backports are
broken
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1632[11:43:15] <antzero> Okay so what I should/can do?
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1634[11:43:27] <nkuttler> antzero: i use the git source from
letsencrypt, works fine
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1635[11:43:30] <antzero> I tried to manually install the
dependency and it worked but apt keeps not "seeing" the
change
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1637[11:43:42] <antzero> Ok will try, thanks
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1638[11:43:59] <nkuttler> antzero: i use a virtualenv though, not
sure if stable has all required deps
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1640[11:45:18] <dTal> antzero: for python packages I use stdeb
rather than backports, works great
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1642[11:46:30] <dTal> only downside is the generated .debs often
aren't aware of their actual dependencies - but hey, you can
install those
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1644[11:48:15] <antzero> Okay, I'm trying to manually
compiling from the git source for now
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1646[11:48:28] <antzero> But annotating what you said, could come
handy in the future
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1649[11:49:21] <nkuttler> there shouldn't be anything to
compile, it's just script
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1652[11:50:17] <antzero> perfect, all worked and the
apache-plugin did all the job
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1715[12:28:19] <x-fak> what's the proper way to restart
apache with Debian 8.4 (jessie)?
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1719[12:31:18] <han-solo> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart?
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1720[12:31:27] <han-solo> or you could use systemctl, i guess
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1725[12:32:40] <han-solo> i don't know if you can use
systemctl to do that
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1726[12:32:47] <han-solo> it's systemd
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1731[12:40:03] <posix> hi
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1734[12:40:38] <posix> good morning
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1735[12:40:44] <x-fak> han-solo , if i restart apache, will i
lose my log file contents?
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1744[12:46:09] <antzero> x-fak: afaik you don't
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1745[12:47:58] <npo> x-fak: service apache restart
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1746[12:48:04] <npo> x-fak: and no, you wont lose your log files
if you restart
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1747[12:48:18] <npo> x-fak: at least you shouldn't, because
you don't with any other service
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1753[12:52:17] <x-fak> antzero npo , ok ty, i ask that because
i've change my timezone with the command timedatectl and my
apache logs date was not updated without restarting the service
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1756[12:55:37] <x-fak> the proper way to restart it i think is:
service apache2 restart
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1760[12:56:00] <x-fak> and i think it's same than systemctl
restart apache2.service
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1761[12:56:15] <npo> x-fak: yeah, maybe there's a 2 after
apache
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1762[12:56:20] <teraflops> not really since there's no
apache unit in debian stable
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1763[12:56:25] <npo> x-fak: i dont use apache so i dont know
specifically :P
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1764[12:56:35] <teraflops> systemd unit*
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1766[12:58:05] <x-fak> teraflops , sorry?
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1767[12:58:21] <x-fak> npo , what do you instead?
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1768[12:58:38] <npo> x-fak: i always use 'service X
restart'
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1770[12:59:04] <npo> i'm also using jessie
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1771[12:59:14] <teraflops> I mean systemctl restart apache is
using sysvinit anyway since theres no systemd apache unit file
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1772[12:59:34] <teraflops> and internally service apache ... is
using apachectl
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1773[12:59:43] <teraflops> apache2ctl*
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1780[13:01:16] <x-fak> teraflops ok, but the command exists on my
system even if there is no systemd apache unit file
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1781[13:01:36] <x-fak> and i dont know what is the difference if
there is a systemd unit file or not
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1785[13:03:27] <posix> should i answer Yes, do as i say!
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1787[13:03:31] <posix> at apt-get :P
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1788[13:03:44] <antzero> x-fak: nice
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1789[13:04:03] <antzero> anyone here tried installing
debian-stretch on virtualbox and had problems?
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1794[13:05:24] <doublehp> how to run fsck -y at boot ? Debian;
can I tune it directly in /etc ? automatically, without having to
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1797[13:06:51] <x-fak> teraflops , if there is apache unit file,
why do i have a result for this command "systemctl show
httpd"?
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1800[13:07:36] <teraflops> there's _no_ apache unit file in
jessie
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1802[13:07:48] <teraflops> x-fak: because debian
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1890[14:01:29] <usuariovirtual> I have 2 questions: one is why
the debian installation pdf refer to a usb stick as a
"disk" device when is clearly not a disk, and second why
using unetbootin is not recommended in which way alterns the image
that is that bad
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1892[14:04:53] <markybob> usuariovirtual: by that logic are
ssd's not disks? it causes all sorts of problems. it's not
even something that can be nailed down.
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1900[14:07:15] <usuariovirtual> markybob: calling it other then
disks is problematic is dat wot yer saying
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1902[14:07:50] <themill> You can copy the installer image to
rotating rust if you want
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1905[14:08:06] <usuariovirtual> markybob: and in sdd the d I know
doesn't mean disk its drive
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1906[14:08:08] <markybob> no. just that it makes sense
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1910[14:10:23] <Matumaros> Hi, somebody helped me last week with
getting a wifi stick to work
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1911[14:10:41] <Matumaros> The solution were following commands
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1912[14:10:42] <Matumaros> modprobe rtl8192cu
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1913[14:10:50] <Matumaros> echo "050d 21f2" >
/sys/bus/usb/drivers/rtl8192cu/new_id
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1915[14:11:37] <Matumaros> oh, nevermind, I forgot that those
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1921[14:13:19] <Matumaros> Well, last time I did both commands
the wifi networks showed up, not this time
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1922[14:13:23] <Matumaros> can anybody help me?
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1923[14:13:38] <Matumaros> iw list doesn't give me anything
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1927[14:15:09] <Matumaros> (I'm working with a fresh install
of Debian Jessie Stable)
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1928[14:15:35] <superlinux> hi, I cannot apt-get anything. I get
: socket (105: No buffer space available)
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1929[14:15:52] <superlinux> how can I fix this? it's on my
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1954[14:28:46] <hid3> Hello. Anyone else having problems reducing
'open_files_limit' value to a sane amount in MySQL on
Debian 8? I have an entry 'open_files_limit=10240', it
also adds option --open-files-limit=10240 to the process, however,
the actual value is much larger, to be exact it is 262294. Any
ideas?
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1961[14:33:00] <usuariovirtual> hid3: restart the service
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1963[14:33:28] <usuariovirtual> hid3: I take that from my
experience with security properties fore wireless networks on
windows 7
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1964[14:33:36] <hid3> usuariovirtual: obviously I have restarted
it (multiple times)
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1969[14:35:13] <usuariovirtual> hid3: have you checked on reddit
forum and such
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1972[14:36:42] <hid3> Yes, I have. Seems there was a bug with
that option a few versions ago, where you had ro put dashes (-)
instead of underscores (_). I have tried them both to noavail... And
I found nothing useful more. Seems everyone is concerned about
increasing the limits over 1024 barrier or so (which required OS
nofile settings modified), however, I want to decrease it...
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1980[14:41:23] <seto> im having a issue with the newest debian
live system cd
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1981[14:41:35] <seto> i have no wifi installed when booted to it
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1983[14:41:41] <seto> my card is Intel Corporation Wireless 7260
(rev 83)
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1985[14:42:14] <seto> need the firmware and tools like iwconfig
etc so need a source to download the .deb etc
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1987[14:43:40] <Akuw> i upgrade mysql to last version now i get
this Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'
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1988[14:44:06] <usuariovirtual> hid3: check the release notes for
different versions of mysql to see if they take note of that
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1990[14:45:05] <markybob> seto: there is a live image with
firmware built in.
replaced-url
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1991[14:45:36] <seto> for petes sake lol
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1992[14:45:41] <seto> did not see that before
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1993[14:45:51] <seto> thats the full try before you die cd right?
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1994[14:45:55] <seto> heheh
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1995[14:46:01] <hid3> nothing in the release notes regarding that
:(
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1996[14:47:01] <Matumaros> I still need help with my ISY N300
Mini Wireles Adapter
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1997[14:47:07] <usuariovirtual> hid3: oww too bad
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1998[14:47:17] <seto> well with luck this solves that small
problem
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1999[14:47:39] <seto> i figure non flavored deb should be a great
deal smaller than say ubuntu or kubuntu
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2000[14:48:16] <seto> and being that i got kubuntu down to sub
6gb install pretty easily getting reg old deb even smaller should be
a cake walk
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2001[14:48:26] <markybob> seto: hold on. are you meaning to
install debian? or just use live?
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2002[14:48:39] <seto> to use live then install from live
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2003[14:48:58] <markybob> seto: live doesn't support install
on uefi
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2004[14:49:06] <seto> this isnt uefi
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2005[14:49:11] <seto> its a chrome book :p
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2006[14:49:14] <markybob> okay
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2008[14:49:37] <markybob> and by okay i mean whatever. i
don't know what chromebook does
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2009[14:49:39] <seto> yeh can be a pain in the butt in some ways
in others its like click and go
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2010[14:49:54] <seto> chrome books rock
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2011[14:50:21] <seto> even beat up as this sucker is right now
for my over tweaked install im sub 45 seconds from selecting reboot
to being back at desk top
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2013[14:50:53] <seto> before i messed things up i was at 28
seconds flat lol
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2016[14:52:06] <seto> well gona let this download
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2018[14:52:25] <seto> so long as i got net at boot time vid sound
etc i can fix after install
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2027[14:58:43] <usuariovirtual> I have a question, when using
#sync, is it always needed when copying an iso to a whole-disk
device
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2035[15:02:37] <Elirips> Hello. I'm looking for a json
processor available in debian stable, usable from the command line
to extract single values. Any hints?
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2038[15:02:52] <halcyforn> hello how to install clean debian
without graphic etc, only basic console system
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2045[15:04:27] <han-solo> halcyforn: why?
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2050[15:05:37] <halcyforn> i must do some exercises, problem the
virtualbox version what ui get have many errors i want install clean
version to do this exercicse orginal system hve 300 mb.
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2052[15:05:53] <halcyforn> do you know how to install that
version i know this is command line
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2054[15:07:36] <han-solo> No. but i know how to use it in console
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2056[15:08:51] <halcyforn> yes but i need clean system to get
screnshotsw of install all this what i must do in exercises, and few
things are instaled always thats why i want core system.
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2059[15:09:42] <markybob> halcyforn: what's your native
tongue? might help
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2062[15:10:07] <halcyforn> polish
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2065[15:10:16] <markybob> !pl
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2066[15:10:17] <dpkg> Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku;
jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl
na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on
irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>.
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2067[15:10:21] <markybob> try that
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2068[15:10:35] <halcyforn> there help dont exist
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2071[15:11:20] <MaBunny> guys i want to restart a app
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2072[15:11:35] <MaBunny> what is the command for it
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2073[15:13:06] <han-solo> service <application> restart
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2075[15:13:36] <markybob> MaBunny: depends on what you mean.
systemclt restart foo
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2076[15:13:41] <han-solo> you have to be root
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2077[15:13:48] <MaBunny> thnx
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2078[15:14:07] <markybob> stop using service :P
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2079[15:14:16] <han-solo> heh
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2080[15:14:26] <han-solo> i usually use /etc/init.d/
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2081[15:14:39] <markybob> stop that as well
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2082[15:14:41] <han-solo> what do you use, systemctl?
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2084[15:14:51] <markybob> yes
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2087[15:15:05] <han-solo> And the difference is?
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2088[15:15:22] <MaBunny> markybob tell your way pls
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2089[15:15:47] <markybob> han-solo: the difference is that debian
is moving to complete systemd integration and that's what the
future holds. so get used to it.
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2090[15:15:59] <han-solo> okay
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2091[15:16:01] <markybob> MaBunny: i already did
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2092[15:16:04] <han-solo> Thanks
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2093[15:16:26] <MaBunny> systemctl??
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2094[15:16:32] <markybob> yes
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2095[15:16:36] <MaBunny> can you give a quick use specs
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2096[15:16:37] <han-solo> yes
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2097[15:16:46] <han-solo> he did ^
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2098[15:16:48] <MaBunny> specification
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2099[15:16:54] <halcyforn> is somwhere command line to debian
instalator?
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2100[15:16:55] <markybob> i did
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2101[15:16:56] <MaBunny> i mean the command
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2102[15:16:58] <han-solo> systemctl restart <app> for your
spec
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2103[15:16:58] <hid3> systemctl is not comfortable to use
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2104[15:16:59] <MaBunny> pls
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2107[15:17:28] <markybob> MaBunny: if you cant read what we say
or man whatever command...really?
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2108[15:17:58] <MaBunny> haha...im impatient...my system has
gotten slow..its been on for 22 hrs
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2110[15:19:38] <markybob> MaBunny: yeah. we get impatient with
lazy people.
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2112[15:19:59] <MaBunny> ok markybob im manning ;d
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2113[15:20:08] <MaBunny> :D
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2116[15:23:05] <Akuw> anybody here knows how to reset mysql root
password?
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2118[15:23:23] <han-solo> re-install it
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2119[15:23:59] <MaBunny> ok markybob if im to kill the process
gnome-shell,should it be this ---> systemctl --user
--kill-who=all gnome-shell
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2120[15:24:08] <MaBunny> im just asking
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2121[15:24:09] <han-solo> or perhaps you should ask in the #mysql
channel
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2122[15:25:04] <han-solo> use kill
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2123[15:25:04] <han-solo> kill -signal pid
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2124[15:25:04] <han-solo> or just use pkill, for your convenience
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2125[15:25:04] <han-solo> pkill <process_name>
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2128[15:25:29] <MaBunny> no im interested in learning systemctl
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2130[15:25:53] <han-solo> wow?
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2132[15:26:31] <hypersona> try less enters and more periods :P
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2133[15:26:52] <han-solo> sure :)
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2134[15:27:00] <MaBunny> markybob??
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2137[15:28:17] <han-solo> I want to answer, but now i'm
skeptical
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2139[15:28:24] <MaBunny> no no
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2140[15:28:36] <MaBunny> here it says it should be used with kill
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2141[15:28:54] <han-solo> yes
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2142[15:28:59] <MaBunny> ok...but i dont kno the pid,just the
proc name
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2144[15:29:23] <MaBunny> so should it be --pkill <app> or
just pkill <app>
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2145[15:29:27] <han-solo> use pkill <process_name>, i guess
i already told that, before deb kicked me out
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2146[15:29:35] <MaBunny> yeah
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2147[15:29:55] <han-solo> to get pid, use ps aux | grep pattern
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2153[15:30:29] <MaBunny> ok
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2154[15:30:30] <hypersona> kill -9 $(pgrep appname)
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2155[15:30:44] <hypersona> -f for myscript.sh
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2156[15:30:45] <han-solo> use signal -15 if possible
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2162[15:33:33] <azswa> hi, does anybody know from what versions
of debian use grub legacy?
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2167[15:34:21] <MaBunny> srry got disconnected
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2168[15:34:24] <MaBunny> also what does this do, --signal=SIGSTOP
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2169[15:34:37] <azswa> found it, up to debian lenny
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2170[15:34:41] <han-solo> signal to stop
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2171[15:34:59] <MaBunny> ok....and SIGTERM???
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2172[15:35:15] <han-solo> terminate
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2173[15:35:18] <MaBunny> ok
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2178[15:36:23] <MaBunny> ok...i typed this ---> systemctl
--user -f --kill-who=all --pkill gnome-shell
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2180[15:36:48] <MaBunny> and it said unrecognized option --pkill
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2181[15:37:08] <han-solo> just use, kill or pkill(for the last
time)
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2182[15:37:34] <MaBunny> the option --kill-who says tht
"when used with kill"....
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2184[15:37:41] <han-solo> it's a direct command, like every
other
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2186[15:37:57] <MaBunny> han-solo...pls...forgive my foolishness
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2188[15:38:16] <MaBunny> ok
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2189[15:38:24] <han-solo> I see you're from india
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2195[15:39:02] <MaBunny> so it should be something like this
---> pkill gnome-shell && systemctl --user -f
--kill-who=all --pkill gnome-shell
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2196[15:39:08] <MaBunny> yeah maybe
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2197[15:39:22] <han-solo> just pkill woll be fine
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2198[15:39:28] <MaBunny> besides the --pkill.... part
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2199[15:39:40] <han-solo> 's/woll/will
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2200[15:39:41] <han-solo> '
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2201[15:39:46] <MaBunny> nooooo...me wanna learn systemctl :P
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2202[15:39:55] <MaBunny> :D
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2205[15:40:40] <MaBunny> earlier i just killed gnome-shell in the
system-monitor app
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2206[15:40:50] <han-solo> you should read the manpages, really
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2208[15:41:06] <MaBunny> but now i dont use it so...sometimes it
restarts when its overloaded
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2209[15:41:15] <MaBunny> im readying the man pages now
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2210[15:41:21] <han-solo> good
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2212[15:41:57] <han-solo> you could write a script to check if
the system overload and kill some low priority process
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2213[15:42:13] <han-solo> and put it in the crontab
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2214[15:42:14] <MaBunny> how...i mean what should it be like
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2215[15:42:29] <MaBunny> and what should it check for??
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2218[15:42:58] <han-solo> process which uses huge memory maybe,
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2219[15:43:02] <han-solo> it depends
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2220[15:43:27] <MaBunny> yeah...just restart proc which use huge
resources??
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2221[15:44:08] <han-solo> depends on your objective
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2222[15:44:16] <MaBunny> ok
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2223[15:44:33] <Patero-ng> I have a question, when using sync, is
it always needed when copying an iso to a whole-disk device
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2224[15:44:42] <MaBunny> ok i typed ---> systemctl --user -f
--kill-who=gnome-shell
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2225[15:45:01] <MaBunny> and it says this---> Failed to get
D-Bus connection: Operation not permitted
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2226[15:45:13] <MaBunny> does it require root??
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2229[15:45:40] <MaBunny> but i think im root now.,..it shows hash
sign
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2231[15:46:00] <han-solo> yes, then you most likely be root
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2232[15:46:09] <MaBunny> no im root
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2233[15:46:21] <han-solo> pkill worked fine, no?
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2234[15:46:23] <odish> no i'm root
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2235[15:46:31] <han-solo> :)
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2236[15:46:43] <MaBunny> i didnt used pkill
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2237[15:46:58] <MaBunny> systemctl --user -f
--kill-who=gnome-shell
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2238[15:47:36] <han-solo> :/
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2240[15:48:16] <MaBunny> markybob any suggestions??
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2241[15:48:31] <han-solo> Did you try, pkill gnome-shell, (this
is likely to kill all gnome-shells, i guess)
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2244[15:48:50] <MaBunny> i might even try killall gnome-shell
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2246[15:49:04] <MaBunny> but then i wont learn a new command :P
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2251[15:50:59] <debguy> hi guys im trying to move my debian
harddisk from a 2014 config to a 2011 is there a command i should
run before doing this
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2255[15:52:08] <hypersona> MaBunny: youre not making any sense
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2257[15:52:38] <hypersona> MaBunny: since when gnome-shell is
running as a systemd --user unit?
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2260[15:52:50] <MaBunny> idk!!!
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2262[15:53:19] <MaBunny> i tried this ---> Failed to get D-Bus
connection: Unknown error -1
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2263[15:53:35] <MaBunny> systemctl --root -f
--kill-who=gnome-shell
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2266[15:54:17] <MaBunny> ok
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2268[15:54:35] <MaBunny> i dont hav the time now...ill just use
kill
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2271[15:55:07] <themill> if you keep trying random things for
long enough, you'll eventually write all of the works of
Shakespeare.
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2272[15:55:14] <hypersona> :P
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2273[15:55:44] <Pr0metheus> is it possible that my hard disk
(ext4) is found to be ok using the extended SMART test but the
filesystem is messed up (cannot ready anthing from the disk)?
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2291[15:59:51] <Akuw> i am installing mysql but installer stay in
this Setting up mysql-community-server (5.7.12-1debian8) ...
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2300[16:02:02] <babilen> Akuw: Which distribution are you using?
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2301[16:02:10] <Akuw> debian
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2303[16:02:23] <Akuw> jessie
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2304[16:02:25] <babilen> Akuw: That package is not in Debian, you
might want to ask whoever supplied it.
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2307[16:02:51] <Akuw> how can i install mysql 5.7 ?
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2308[16:03:29] <babilen> It looks as if their maintainer scripts
are broken or stall. You might want to look into top, figure out the
process that is running and what its doing (strace). You'll
find the maintainer scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info and you could fix
them yourself.
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2310[16:04:24] <babilen> Akuw: That version of MySQL is not in
Debian and you would, therefore, have to use packages from
unuspported third-party repositories.
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2311[16:04:38] <babilen> Also, you might want to consider using
mariadb ;)
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2312[16:04:51] <Patero-ng> is there a ftp client that comes with
debian?
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2313[16:05:07] <han-solo> ftp
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2314[16:05:25] <babilen> Patero-ng: Plenty, but 'ftp'
would be the basic one :)
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2357[16:22:15] <Akuw> getting problems to install mariadb
replaced-url
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2363[16:25:18] <kang00> (Lope) Even after turning screen on they
don't really respond right away. Have to DC RC wifi then it
connects.
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2364[16:25:29] <kang00> What is dc rc?
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2369[16:31:01] <Matumaros> Is there still nobody online who could
help me making a wifi stick work?
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2370[16:31:36] <mtn> Matumaros: what is the chip? and did you use
the wiki to solve your problem?
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2371[16:32:18] <Matumaros> mtn: I got help here last time, but
since that I reinstalled my system and the same steps taken last
time don't seem to work
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2372[16:32:26] <mtn> Matumaros: what is the chip? and did you use
the wiki to solve your problem?
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2373[16:32:48] <Matumaros> It's a ISY N300 Mini Wireless
Adapter
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2374[16:33:03] <Matumaros> I did these two steps:
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2375[16:33:04] <Matumaros> modprobe rtl8192cu
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2376[16:33:08] <mtn> Matumaros: that is not the chip, so
won't help. what chip does it use?
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2377[16:33:12] <Matumaros> echo "050d 21f2" >
/sys/bus/usb/drivers/rtl8192cu/new_id
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2378[16:33:30] <Matumaros> Where do I find what chip it uses?
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2380[16:33:48] <mtn> Matumaros: either lspci or lsusb
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2383[16:34:37] <mtn> Matumaros: the wiki would have instructions
to find the chip and take it from there, which is why I asked about
the wiki
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2384[16:34:46] <okee> Does anyone know if star is in the repos? I
don't find it.
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2385[16:35:01] <Matumaros> mtn: it's not listed in either
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2387[16:35:22] <Matumaros> Last time I searched on Google but
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2389[16:35:38] <mtn> Matumaros: ok, let's try this. install
inxi. then run: inxi -Nn paste the results to dpaste.com and give us
the link
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2392[16:36:18] <okee> star allows you to preserve extended file
extensions when copying. It is similar to tar.
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2395[16:36:27] <Matumaros> mtn: I have no internet connection,
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2399[16:37:35] <Matumaros> my LAN cable is damaged, it goes
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2401[16:37:43] <iron_houzi> I know about adding library paths to
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2403[16:37:51] <Matumaros> I will do a new one at some point
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show the wifi, then it is not connected or not recognized by the
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2457[17:11:24] <Laurenceb__> hi, I have some weird problems
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2459[17:11:53] <Laurenceb__> /var/log/suspend.log: Read-only file
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2461[17:11:59] <Laurenceb__> when I try to suspend
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2520[17:43:04] <Patero-ng> hi I have a linux distro on an image
file that is not very trusted, it's from spain and I fear that
my hardware may overheat and die if I do load it and I'm not
kidding... is there anyway to safely test this img? will virtualbox
on windows be safe for such test?
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2522[17:44:05] <zinx> is your hardware lacking proper cooling?
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2524[17:44:23] <okee> What type of label is required for
partitions? fdisk gives me the following four
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2575[18:07:42] <at0m> Patero-ng: unless the distro runs cpuburn
by default, little chance it will overheat anything. may run slow at
worst.
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2633[18:30:25] <hiya> Is Iceweasel being discontinued?
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2634[18:30:38] <hiya> Firefox and Iceweasel agreed over Trademark
issues?
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2635[18:30:46] <hiya> or copyright issues w/e were there?
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2648[18:33:36] <lesik> good question, I'm interested as well
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2650[18:35:04] <hiya> lesik, really?
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2651[18:35:24] <Akuw> FATAL ERROR: Could not find
./bin/my_print_defaults
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2661[18:37:33] <lesik> hiya, yes.
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2664[18:38:12] <jmcnaught> !firefox
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2665[18:38:12] <dpkg> From 2006 to 2016, Mozilla Firefox was
known as "Iceweasel" in Debian because Mozilla would not
permit Debian to use the Firefox name. Firefox packages will shortly
appear in both jessie and sid. For the latest versions, ask me about
<mozilla.debian.net>.
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2672[18:44:33] <lesik> that doesn't really explain much
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2674[18:45:07] <hiya> Do you recommend upgrading from iceweasel
to release firefox using this mozilla.debian.net link?
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2677[18:46:45] <lesik> debian will probably continue to manually
patch firefox. mozilla won't like that. how did debian agree
with mozilla over using the firefox brand?
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2681[18:47:36] <jmcnaught> most of the disagreement was rendered
moot now that mozilla does ESR releases of firefox, so Debian
doesn't need to backport very much
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2682[18:47:47] <Patero-ng> zinx: proper cooling well with stock
voltages!
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2684[18:48:01] <jmcnaught> the mozilla.debian.net packages are
handy if you need newer firefox, if you don't then just use
what's in jessie
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2689[18:49:07] <Patero-ng> at0m: I'm saying if the distro
comes with certain malicous code to break down hardware like
increasing the voltages of the dif components of the motherboard
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2715[19:06:03] <Akuw> i have a problem with mysql packages
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2718[19:08:34] <Akuw> can't install mariadb
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2722[19:09:18] <jmcnaught> Akuw: what happens when you try?
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2724[19:10:02] <hesco> I have a partition for which `df -h` is
reporting: '/dev/sda3 437G 417G 0 100% /'. My question is:
How do I reclaim that 20gb as usable, so that logs get written and
my server begins to function again, while I try to migrate some of
this load about?
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2730[19:11:19] <Akuw> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
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2733[19:12:33] <hesco> Akuw: care to show the output of: See
'systemctl status mysql.service' and 'journalctl
-xn' for details
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2734[19:12:39] <teraflops> hesco: ext4?
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2736[19:12:43] <CutMeOwnThroat> hesco, that's probably the
5% reserved for root if this is ext4...
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2737[19:13:08] <teraflops> hesco: that's extactly the 5% a
CutMeOwnThroat says
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2738[19:13:09] <CutMeOwnThroat> I'd just move/delete stuff
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2739[19:13:13] <teraflops> as*
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2740[19:13:41] <Akuw> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
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2742[19:14:15] <hesco> teraflops, CutMeOwnThroat: you called it,
both partitions there are ext4.
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2746[19:14:55] <teraflops> hesco: 437 x 5 / 100 ;)
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2747[19:15:02] <jmcnaught> Akuw: perhaps you could use
"-l" as suggested in your paste to get nontruncated
messages?
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2749[19:15:59] <CutMeOwnThroat> if this is indeed the ext 5%...
you can probably change it with tune2fs -m 1 or so
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2751[19:16:16] <Akuw> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
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2752[19:16:20] <CutMeOwnThroat> but I've never done that
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2753[19:16:55] <hesco> CutMeOwnThroat: any known risks of messing
with a running file system in that way? Can't afford any data
loss over this.
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2759[19:17:59] <hesco> Akuw: do you have real data on this
machine yet?
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2761[19:18:13] <Akuw> real data?
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2763[19:18:31] <hesco> if not I would be inclined to
apt-get-remove --purge the maria installation and try again
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2764[19:18:40] <hesco> was mysql ever installed here?
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2765[19:18:44] <teraflops> hesco: is it worth the risk?
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2766[19:18:57] <Akuw> yes
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2767[19:19:19] <hesco> did mysql host real data for you?
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2768[19:19:33] <Kirito> Is there a quick / temporary work-around
for the letsencrypt package issues in backports currently?
(python-acme : Breaks: python-letsencrypt (< 0.6.0) but
0.5.0-1~bpo8+1 is to be installed)
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2769[19:19:38] <hesco> what does `du -sh /var/lib/mysql` return?
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2770[19:19:50] <Kirito> Or do I have to wait for the maintainers
to fix the current packages?
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2772[19:20:17] <Akuw> 172M /var/lib/mysql
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2774[19:21:06] <a2m> lol, just lol:
replaced-url
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2775[19:21:07] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2776[19:21:17] <hesco> Akuw: is there data you care about in that
172mb?
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2778[19:21:27] <desired_nick> static ip and port forwarding works
from the internet .. but not from the LAN. this is how cisco router
works ??
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2783[19:22:27] <hesco> if not use the `remove --purge` advised
below and for good measure rm -rf /var/lib/mysql; then try your
maria installation again.
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2784[19:22:38] <jmcnaught> Kirito: you can report issues with
backports to its mailing list:
replaced-url
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2789[19:22:56] <hesco> if you care about that data, reinstall
mysql, dump the data, purge the mysql installation, install maria
and import the dumped data
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2795[19:24:34] <Akuw> is backed up
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2797[19:25:20] <desired_nick> static ip and port forwarding works
from the internet .. but not from the LAN. this is how cisco router
works ??
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2800[19:26:46] <teraflops> desired_nick: are you asking for cisco
suport in #debian?
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2803[19:26:53] <Akuw> hesco: i made backup
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2805[19:27:32] <jmcnaught> Akuw: did you make the backup with
mysqldump, or did you just back up the /var/lib/mysql files?
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2806[19:27:52] <Akuw> tar file
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2808[19:28:31] <jmcnaught> Akuw: that doesn't answer my
question
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2809[19:28:47] <Akuw> i made a tar of that folder
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2810[19:28:54] <jelly> dpkg, tell a2m about debian-next
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2811[19:29:14] <jelly> dpkg, tell a2m about sid faq
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2814[19:29:30] <jmcnaught> Akuw: if you are trying to migrate
from mysql to mariadb you're probably better off having
mysqldump copies of each database
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2816[19:29:52] <Akuw> that database are not a problem
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2817[19:30:00] <Akuw> i just need to install mariadb
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2818[19:30:02] <jmcnaught> Akuw: especially since it seems to be
failing for you. copies of /var/lib/mysql can be unreliable
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2819[19:30:06] <Akuw> and fix install problem
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2825[19:31:30] <jmcnaught> Akuw: well has hesco was saying
earlier, the problem mariadb is having is with the files that
already exist in /var/lib/mysql. if you want to keep the databases,
you probably need to reinstall mysql, make copies with mysqldump,
then remove mysql, delete /var/lib/mysql, install mariadb, import
the dumped databases
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2827[19:32:00] <desired_nick> teraflops: i am not asking
support.. I am asking those who used cisco router if this is how
cisco router works
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2866[19:45:52] <hesco> Akuw: do not depend on a file system
backup of the database at /var/lib/mysql. Use the API provided by
mysqldump and mysql clients to dump, then restore your databases,
otherwise you risk data corruption. jmcnaught has outlined the
process in this channel only a few moments ago.
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2883[19:52:25] <spacebug^> I'm using Debian 8.4 with
encrypted LVM. I also want to setup encrypted swap. Any help with
that? My /etc/fstab has en entry for swap with a name like
/dev/mapper/hostname--vg-swap_1 should I use that in /etc/crypttab?
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2889[19:54:20] <jmcnaught> spacebug^: does that swap LV already
exist, was it created by the installer? If the swap LV is on the
same VG as your other volumes, you shouldn't need a separate
entry in /etc/crypttab for it
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2890[19:54:37] <Junka> is bsd-mailx enough to send emails?
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2893[19:55:00] <jelly> Junka: short answer, no
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2894[19:55:09] <teraflops> Junka? o/
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2897[19:55:17] <Junka> teraflops: hi!! :D
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2898[19:55:23] <teraflops> ;D
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2899[19:55:27] <Junka> teraflops: how are you?
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2902[19:55:43] <teraflops> fine, and you?
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2903[19:55:44] <spacebug^> jmcnaught : install made it for me. I
guess that means my swap is on an encypted area of the disk, but I
would also want the swap to be encrypted itself
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2904[19:55:51] <jelly> spacebug^: did you encrypt your PV or your
LV? Pastebin the current output of "lsblk"
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2907[19:56:06] <Junka> teraflops: very good thanks for asking
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2910[19:56:33] <spacebug^> jelly : I'm not inline with that
computer right now
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2911[19:56:37] <Junka> jelly: do you have a guide for it?
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2919[19:57:38] <teraflops> Junka: bsd-mailx is a wrapper that
uses an existing smtp server
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2920[19:57:38] <jelly> spacebug^: then it will be hard to help
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2921[19:57:49] <jelly> s/smtp/MTA/
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2922[19:57:50] <spacebug^> ok, to bad
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2925[19:58:22] <teraflops> so if you have a mta already setup
youre fine
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2926[19:58:34] <jelly> teraflops: that particular mailx does not
speak smtp, only /usr/sbin/sendmail
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2927[19:58:48] <teraflops> yeah sendmail
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2929[19:59:34] <Junka> teraflops: how to configure? sudo
dpkg-reconfigure bsd-mailx does nothing
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2932[20:00:29] <teraflops> Junka: you want to use mail from
console and send emails to the intertubes? if yes you need to setup
a mta first
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2938[20:01:29] <Junka> teraflops: i want the system to send me
some reports
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2940[20:01:56] <teraflops> ah locally?
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2941[20:02:05] <Junka> yes sure
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2943[20:03:26] <teraflops> Junka: do you have exim installed?
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2944[20:03:40] <Junka> teraflops: yes, bsd-mailx pulled it
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2945[20:05:05] <jelly> Junka: if you do not need local delivery,
consider replacing exim4 with a simpler mta like msmtp-mta
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2950[20:05:52] <jelly> then configure msmtp to send mail over
your gmail or hotmail server or ISP's mail server
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2951[20:06:02] <spacebug-> jelly:
replaced-url
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2952[20:06:17] <Junka> jelly: seems pretty straightforward,
thanks!
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2953[20:06:21] <Junka> teraflops: thank you too :D
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2954[20:06:31] <teraflops> Junka: np mate
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2958[20:07:04] <jelly> spacebug-: so your PV is encrypted. That
means all the LVs inside, so far that's your root filesystem
and you swap are encrypted on disk.
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2959[20:07:11] <jelly> spacebug-: nothing to do here
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2960[20:08:00] <spacebug-> jelly: ecnrypted with same key for
both / and swap?
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2962[20:08:05] <jelly> correct
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2965[20:09:01] <spacebug-> would it not be more secure to also
encrypt swap agin with en entry in crypttab with a key from
/dev/random or something?
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2966[20:09:15] <jelly> why?
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2969[20:09:57] <spacebug-> my swap is not really hidden from
processes now when the system is runnign is it?
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2972[20:10:32] <spacebug-> I'm kind of paranoid :D
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2973[20:10:32] <jelly> swap is used by kernel, not processes on
their own
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2978[20:11:42] <spacebug-> so there are no way a process could
somehow read from the swappartition?
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2979[20:11:45] <jelly> if you're root or member of disk
group you can read block devices, including the block device use for
swap
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2982[20:12:35] <spacebug-> so root could in theory read info on
the swap partition?
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2984[20:13:13] <jelly> no, not in theory. root can do anything.
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2990[20:14:03] <spacebug-> hum. I would have thoughrt the system
protected its memory from any process
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2992[20:14:13] <spacebug-> how can it be secure then?
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2995[20:14:54] <jelly> it can't be secure from root
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2997[20:15:15] <spacebug-> Hum. Ok
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2998[20:15:28] <spacebug-> Thanks for the info
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3000[20:15:37] <jelly> which is why distros restrict root access
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3004[20:17:07] <spacebug-> So that might be why Apple has changed
things in recent OS X so some things even admins can't change.
(One can disable this in their bios or equal)
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3044[20:27:42] <Somelauw> Hi, is it likely that debian is goig to
add a file manager to /etc/alternatives? At the moment I can't
think of a portable way to open a file-explorer.
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3057[20:29:38] <Somelauw> some programs for Debian are hardcoded
to open nautilus, which I don't have installed and which I
don't want to install
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3061[20:29:56] <Somelauw> for example, Dropbox and that cheese do
that
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3062[20:30:27] <teraflops> I cannot believe that. But I think the
sane way doing it is using xdg
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3064[20:30:36] <jelly> Somelauw: xdg-open /home/ ?
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3067[20:30:43] <teraflops> Of doing
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3069[20:31:04] <jelly> opened Thunar here on xfce
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3073[20:31:42] <peekaboo> hi how do i tell the kernel to load a
fw file from /lib/firmware
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3075[20:32:01] <vlt> Hello. After every apt upgrade where
initrd.img is involved (re-built) I have to run `CRYPTSETUP=y
update-initramfs -u`. Otherwise there’d be no /sbin/cryptsetup
binary in initramfs available and I’d be locked out. Any idea
how to fix this?
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3076[20:32:02] <Junka> teraflops: mail and mailx are diff?
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3077[20:32:10] <teraflops> Somelauw: use xdg, gvfs, exo...the
tool depends on your DE if any
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3078[20:32:20] <jelly> peekaboo: you don't tell it directly,
you unload the module that wants the firmware, and load it back (or
reboot)
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3081[20:32:46] <jelly> vlt: which debian release?
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3083[20:33:05] <peekaboo> @jelly my network driver didnt come
with debian livecd so i downloaded the fw and moved it to
/lib/firmware, restarted and my wifi device is still not recognized
:(
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3084[20:33:08] <vlt> jelly: stable
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3086[20:33:20] <jelly> vlt: is your /etc/crypttab sane?
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3087[20:33:28] <peekaboo> @jelly also its an installation off
livecd not a livecd
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3094[20:34:00] <teraflops> Junka: I cannot check it right know.
Look at those files with ls -la
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3097[20:34:14] <Somelauw> xdg-open . worked for me opening
pcmanfm
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3098[20:34:22] <jelly> peekaboo: can you show the dmesg line
where the kernel fails to load the firmware?
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3099[20:34:24] <vlt> jelly: It’s empty. I assume
that’s the reason. What could I put there?
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3105[20:35:06] <teraflops> Somelauw: you can set the default
application
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3107[20:35:47] <peekaboo> @jelly it should normally be red right?
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3108[20:35:57] <jelly> vlt: definition of your underlying luks
device path and its unencypted name, man 5 crypttab
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3110[20:36:48] <Somelauw> I'm okay with it opening anything
the user can configure
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3111[20:36:59] <peekaboo> @jelly
replaced-url
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3113[20:37:16] <jim> which one should I get? the one from
backports? Package: apt-cacher-ng on amd64 -- ... jessie: 0.8.0-3;
... jessie-backports: 0.9.1-1~bpo8+1 ...
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3117[20:37:32] <jelly> peekaboo: that's the wired ethernet
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3121[20:38:02] <peekaboo> @jelly :s pretty sure thats the wifi
tho
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3123[20:38:16] <jelly> hmm, I may be wrong
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3124[20:38:39] <peekaboo> @jelly like.. it's the only
package deb installer warned me about
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3125[20:38:48] <jelly> description: RealTek RTL-8169 Gigabit
Ethernet driver
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3126[20:39:01] <peekaboo> @jelly no my card is rtl8168e
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3128[20:39:06] <vlt> jelly: Ok, I put one line with a name and
the UUID of the source device there. This file is _inside_ the
cryptdevice so it’s never really useful. But maybe it’ll
give a hint to update-initramfs to include cryptsetup ;-)
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3129[20:39:08] <teraflops> Somelauw: take a look at
replaced-url
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3130[20:39:08] <jelly> peekaboo: pastebin the last 200-ish lines
of dmesg
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3131[20:39:09] <CutMeOwnThroat> is there a program that monitors
wlang signal strength and translates that into a beep of various
height, so one can twiddle the antenna and get audio feedback
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3133[20:39:33] <Laki> hello guys
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3135[20:39:57] <jelly> vlt: you need something like "name
/dev/someplace none luks"
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3136[20:40:04] <Akuw> i am getting this when installing
phpmyadmin mysql: [ERROR] mysql: Empty value for 'port'
specified
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3140[20:40:43] <jelly> vlt: but yeah the manual says UUID= is
supported too
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3141[20:40:55] <vlt> jelly: Ok, I’ll add "none
luks". I’d rather not put a fixed /dev/someplace there
because that might change. I’ll use UUID instead.
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3143[20:41:03] <peekaboo>
replaced-url
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3144[20:41:04] <vlt> jelly: Yeah, thank you!
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3145[20:41:17] <jelly> vlt: /dev/disk/by-uuid/blargh works for me
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3146[20:42:03] <jelly> peekaboo: now, [ 2.682370] rtl8192ce
0000:0d:00.0: firmware: failed to load rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin (-2)
<-- that's wifi
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3147[20:42:18] <peekaboo> @jelly but thats not my wifi card :s
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3148[20:42:26] <peekaboo> mine is 8168e
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3150[20:42:49] <jelly> that's not what your kernel thinks is
present.
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3151[20:42:58] <Somelauw> teraflops: the thing with xdg-open is
that I can't communicate the intent. Fortunately for filepaths,
the intent to open it in a file browser is usually correct.
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3153[20:43:09] <jelly> !rtl8168e
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3154[20:43:09] <dpkg> r8169 is a Linux kernel driver supporting
the Realtek RTL8101, RTL8111/8168 and RTL8169 families of gigabit
Ethernet chips. See also <rtl8168d>, <rtl8105e>,
<rtl8402>, <rtl8411>. Not to be confused with the
out-of-tree <r8168> driver.
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3155[20:43:25] <teraflops> peekaboo: sorry for asking but, out of
curiosity do you type the @ manually?
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3157[20:43:39] <peekaboo> @teraflops yeah im on qirc
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3158[20:44:07] <teraflops> Is that a twitter thingy?
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3159[20:44:30] <jelly> peekaboo: rtl8168e seems to be wired. Put
rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin in the right place for the wifi driver. You
need that subdirectory under /lib/firmware, so the full path should
be /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin
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3160[20:44:36] <peekaboo> @teraflops nah its alerting in most
most hippie messaging apps
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3161[20:44:49] <peekaboo> thanks @jelly will give it a try
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3163[20:45:03] <peekaboo> @jelly can firmware drivers i download
off the internet be malicious?
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3164[20:45:04] <jelly> peekaboo: please avoid using @ on irc,
just the nickname is fine
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3166[20:45:10] <teraflops> Twitter nightmare
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3168[20:45:29] <Junka> jelly: how is the subject of the email be
determined?
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3169[20:45:35] <jelly> peekaboo: anything downloaded off internet
can be malicious. How LIKELY it is...
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3175[20:46:05] <peekaboo> @jelly but i mean the kernel runs this
stuff without questioning right?
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3176[20:46:05] <jelly> Junka: Subject: is one of the headers your
mail client is supposed to generate
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3177[20:46:15] <peekaboo> @jelly it gives it full privileges
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3179[20:46:26] <peekaboo> sorry for @
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3182[20:46:44] <jelly> peekaboo: worse, it gives it to the CPU in
the wireless card to run.
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3187[20:47:30] <jelly> your wifi card, your ethernet card, your
disk all have separate processing units of their own. Fun!
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3188[20:47:52] <peekaboo> jelly but isn't this a
vulnerability?
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3192[20:49:05] <jelly> peekaboo: no security system can save you
from "root doing stupid things"
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3193[20:49:09] <Junka> apt-history is not a thing anymore?
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3195[20:49:35] <vlt> jelly: No matter what I tried so far I
always get "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab
for md1 -" from `update-initramfs -u` and the resulting
initd.img file is ~1 MB smaller than the working one. I think I
don’t even need to try to boot. The line is
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3196[20:49:37] <vlt> pvcrypt
/dev/disk/by-uuid/0a327e21-bcd2-45f9-b860-874c15aa5ce4 none luks
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3197[20:49:43] <jelly> right
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3198[20:50:18] <Somelauw> Junka: never heard of it, but /var/log
should have history of all apt-commands
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3199[20:50:24] <jelly> vlt: I don't see any md1 in there, is
that path symlink to /dev/md1 ?
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3203[20:52:56] <vlt> jelly: Yes, it links to ../../md-1. But even
if I replace the uuid part of /etc/crypttab by garbage it still
complains about an error for md1. Weird.
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3204[20:53:09] <vlt> *md1
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3205[20:53:59] <jelly> vlt: what does file -s /dev/md1 say?
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3208[20:54:19] <vlt> jelly: /dev/md1: LUKS encrypted file, ver 1
[aes, cbc-essiv:sha256, sha1] UUID:
0a327e21-bcd2-45f9-b860-874c15aa5ce4
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3214[20:55:19] <jelly> vlt: show your lsblk output
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3221[20:58:06] <Laki> I need some help, I've got Xorg and
video driver issues, I'm on a SiS card and setting vesa in
xorg.conf works, but only at 1024x768 resolution - but I can't
get the sis drivers to work
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3224[20:58:48] <Laki> here is my Xorg log after I tried setting
sis
replaced-url
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3226[20:59:19] <vlt> jelly: Can I pm it?
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3227[20:59:54] <jelly> vlt: what's wrong with a pastebin
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3228[21:00:10] <jelly> !paste
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3229[21:00:10] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
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3230[21:00:24] <vlt> jelly: Nothing. I just wanted to pm you the
pastebin link :-D
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3231[21:00:31] <jelly> paste it here.
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3232[21:00:37] <vlt>
replaced-url
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3235[21:01:55] <jelly> vlt: it's mildly amusing to see
encrypted /dev/md1 below unencrypted /dev/mapper/md1
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3238[21:02:23] <jelly> vlt: I wonder which one the tools complain
about
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3239[21:03:55] <jelly> vlt: can you reboot and bring up the
unencrypted device used as LVM PV with the new desired name, see if
that changes things?
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3245[21:05:53] <salala> Hi
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3246[21:05:58] <salala> is there a tool which manages address
data in a xml file? i do not like the various gui tools and would
like just have to have a good data structure and put it into my
git....
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3247[21:06:00] <jelly> vlt: while you're at it it might be a
good idea to put the md array for /boot into /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf,
too, so it doesn't get the autogenerated md127 number
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3249[21:06:46] <[sr]> hi
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3250[21:07:20] <[sr]> this is a bit generic, but does anyone
knows the option in dhcp that makes the mobile deviced
"popup" the browser windows to do sign in, in wifi
hotspots?
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3254[21:08:21] <vlt> jelly: Yes, I’ll try that. I doubt,
though, that putting something into /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf will
affect the md names during boot because /etc is available only after
decrypting md1 :-D
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3256[21:09:15] <jelly> vlt: copies of both mdadm.conf and
crypttab are stashed into the generated initramfs image
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3259[21:11:43] <Junka> how can i set apt when it removes pkgs to
also purges them?
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3263[21:12:30] <jelly> vlt: I'm... not quite sure how your
system booted at all without a crypttab, I guess there's
fallback code to detect and unlock ANY luks device
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3269[21:13:33] <jelly> Junka: you can't, that would break
the package upgrade process
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3285[21:19:30] <vlt> jelly: I rebooted and renamed the crypt
device to md1_open. Now I get the error "cryptsetup: WARNING:
invalid line in /etc/crypttab for md1_open -"
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3290[21:21:38] <Patero-ng> hi when chrooting do I do it as root?
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3291[21:21:39] <vlt> jelly: There’s an inherited
"cryptopts" kernel command line option that – in
earlier Debian versions – made initramfs run an askpass
command that asked for the passphrase, vgchange -ay’d the LVM
and continued booting.
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3293[21:21:48] <Patero-ng> when mounting with bind and stuff
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3295[21:22:41] <jelly> Patero-ng: chroot _only_ works as root, so
yes
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3298[21:23:07] <vlt> jelly: Because /dev/disk/by-uuid
doesn’t exist in Debian 8’s early initramfs stage it
always drops to an (initrd) shell where I have to run cryptsetup
manually. I want to resolve this as well but it’s a lower
priority problem.
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3301[21:23:41] <vlt> jelly: Because I can’t run any
cryptsetup when it’s not there :D
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3302[21:24:09] <jelly> vlt: if it doesn't exist that's
a bug; however if /dev/md1 is there you can just put that in
crypttab
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3303[21:24:14] <Patero-ng> jelly: I should have check to see if
only sudo shows chroot me dumb
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3304[21:24:19] <Junka> jelly: how are updates being tagged as
security updates?
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3305[21:24:35] <vlt> jelly: I know. I jsut don’t want
because that might change.
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3306[21:24:39] <vlt> *just
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3308[21:25:20] <vlt> jelly: And I think it had to go into
grub.conf, not crypttab.
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3310[21:25:59] <tikun> what is the average/typical maximum
throughput of the SFTP protocol? Currently I'm seeing a max of
roughly 18-19Mbit, my connection is capable of 100Mbit, is there any
way to improve the transfer speeds?
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3311[21:26:19] <jelly> vlt: if you're using systemd,
it's possible you might have to tinker with dependencies of
luks and md to get them up in the right order, I think I've
seen a related bug or two
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3312[21:26:40] <Patero-ng> jelly: when using mount --bind for
example, do I do it as root? mount works as user too
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3313[21:27:33] <jelly> Patero-ng: I don't know what
you're trying to achieve with it, but I suspect mount --bind
with arbitrary source and dest. will not work as normal user
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3314[21:27:41] <vlt> jelly: I don’t know whether I use
systemd. It’s a debootstrapped Debian 8.
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3315[21:27:51] <jelly> vlt: cat /proc/1/comm
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3316[21:27:51] <vlt> Any idea where "cryptsetup: WARNING:
invalid line in /etc/crypttab for md1_open -" might come from
when running `update-initramfs -u`?
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3318[21:28:06] <Patero-ng> jelly: I'm trying to chroot into
a pen drive from debian on a virtualbox in windows7
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3319[21:28:08] <vlt> jelly: systemd
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3323[21:28:53] <vlt> Patero-ng: Is the usb drive visible in the
virtualbox?
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3324[21:29:10] <jelly> Junka: I don't know what you mean by
that. Where do you see those tags, which command shows them?
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3325[21:29:11] <ryouma> i have had endless initramfs problems
with jessie of similar variety. hope next debian will be robust to
configuration issues, mistakes, have good error messages, fewer
bugs, etc. i know nothing about such things (don't even
understand update-initramfs manpage), but i find it is useful to
extract the initramfs that gets generated.
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3328[21:29:42] <vlt> ryouma: Is jessie Debian 8?
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3330[21:29:53] <jelly> !jessie
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3331[21:29:53] <dpkg> Jessie is the codename for the current
<stable> release, Debian 8, released on 2015-04-25:
replaced-url
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3333[21:30:04] <Patero-ng> vlt: yes I can
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3338[21:30:31] <vlt> Patero-ng: Then what step do you have
problems with?
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3339[21:30:36] <ryouma> i have also been only able to get back
into jessie by selecting the sysvinit version of the kernel in grub,
at times
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3340[21:30:37] <silverfall> jessie sounds like the jessie from
breaking bad
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3341[21:30:41] <silverfall> woody/sid was much better
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3342[21:30:51] <Junka> jelly: apt-cache policy, are security
updates labeled as Debian-Security ?
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3343[21:30:56] <jelly> Patero-ng: then yes, for a one-time setup
you'll do most of that stuff as root
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3346[21:31:04] <markybob> ryouma: that doesn't ever make
sense
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3348[21:31:31] <Patero-ng> vlt: I just want to know if one of the
steps for the process of chrooting requires root privligees
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3349[21:31:48] <ryouma> markybob: the default systemd kernel just
hangs trying things over and over, while the sysvinit kernel in grub
gives me a prompt that i can ^D to continue or whatever.
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3350[21:31:51] <markybob> "sysvinit version of the
kernel"...c'mon.
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3352[21:32:01] <vlt> Patero-ng: The chrooting requires them.
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3353[21:32:17] <Patero-ng> k
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3354[21:32:19] <Patero-ng> jelly: thanks
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3355[21:32:22] <ryouma> markybob: there are 3 versions of the
kernel that grub provides. don't be mean to people on irc. one
says sysv one says rescue and one does not say anything.
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3356[21:32:36] <ryouma> markybob: maybe your grub does not show
them
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3357[21:32:57] <jelly> Junka: apt-cache policy just tells you
which repos are enabled and which package versions are available in
which repo. All the uploads to security.debian.org are security
related, but sometimes you may get security-patched versions even
from main repo. Right after point updates, for example.
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3358[21:33:12] <ryouma> just don't diss people. there's
no point. the channel is for helping people.
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3359[21:33:20] <markybob> ryouma: yeah. i'm the one
trolling. we're not that stupid.
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3364[21:33:51] <Junka> jelly: exactly my point, how can I
distinguish them?
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3366[21:34:07] <vlt> jelly: Any further ideas about that
"invalid line" warning or do I just have to live with
rebuilding initramfs every time with CRYPTSETUP=y env?
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3368[21:34:11] <Junka> jelly: the ones from the main repo
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3369[21:34:24] <Junka> jelly: the ones from the security repo are
obvious
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3370[21:34:27] <jelly> markybob: they clearly meant the sysvinit
menu option in grub, available when you have both installed
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3371[21:34:48] <ryouma> jelly: yes
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3372[21:34:49] <ryouma> plonk on markybob. jesus christ you
don't have to be a dick.
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3373[21:35:00] <ryouma> there are 3 options for the kernel the4re
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3374[21:35:29] <ryouma> jelly: strangely, i didn't
explicitly install sysvinit. but i am glad it was there
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3376[21:35:43] <jelly> markybob: you may think something
doesn't make sense, but then ask for clarification, preferably
in a more polite manner
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3380[21:37:25] <jelly> Junka: I don't know how to easily
distinguish security fixes from other fixes also available in a
point release, other than nothing security-related is visible in the
changelog
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3382[21:37:47] <jelly> Junka: apt-listchanges is useful that way
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3383[21:38:58] <Junka> jelly: yes the changelog should inform
about CVEs right?
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3386[21:39:20] <silverfall> jelly: how can I contribute to
Debian? ** "dpkg" has been added to the ignore list
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3388[21:39:28] <jelly> Junka: there probably is a way, seeing as
"debsecan" can figure it and there's info about fixed
and known security issues on security-tracker.debian.org; I just
don't know how to get it easily
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3389[21:39:52] <jelly> silverfall: first unignore dpkg bot :-)
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3393[21:40:55] <Patero-ng> question
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3396[21:41:37] <jelly> silverfall: then perhaps read /msg dpkg
how-can-i-help
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3397[21:41:54] <Patero-ng> I jusst chrooted into my debian8.1 on
the usb pendrive but it outputs doing it for a i386 platform and my
pc is amd64bit, is it i386 32bit? if so might the virtualbox
hardware dection been wrong?
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3399[21:42:19] <Patero-ng> my question is was the installation
normal
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3401[21:43:03] <jelly> Patero-ng: what does "dpkg
--print-architecture" say inside the chroot
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3402[21:43:09] <silverfall> jelly: yesterday I went through
debian.org pages one after another for hours and ended up with no
clue
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3403[21:43:40] <silverfall> if I recall correctly I saw stuff
like "xxx translation 130%", how can you translate more
than there is to translate? pure nonsense
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3404[21:43:45] <silverfall> I want to speak with a human
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3405[21:43:48] <vlt> jelly: News: Something works better.
I’ll reboot, check and report. Thanks so far.
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3407[21:43:54] <TomTomTosch> Patero-ng: how did you install the
chroot environment? debootstrap? regular debian install? maybe you
picked the wrong iso.
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3409[21:44:12] <Patero-ng> jelly: says amd64
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3410[21:44:19] <Junka> jelly: ok thanks
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3411[21:44:30] <Patero-ng> TomTomTosch: it's the 64bit 8.4
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3412[21:44:30] <jelly> Patero-ng: that's a 64bit
installation then
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3413[21:44:50] <Patero-ng> jelly: k, I imaging grub is a 32bit
app then
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3415[21:45:06] <jelly> grub is special.
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3416[21:45:17] <Patero-ng> TomTomTosch: it's chrooted from a
installed debian 8.4 on virtualbox
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3417[21:45:43] <Patero-ng> anyway I'm gonna go test it now,
crossing
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3425[21:48:56] <jelly> silverfall: afair, some parts of
debian-installer are mandatory for translation, some are less used
and optional
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3432[21:53:35] <jelly> silverfall: did you read
replaced-url
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3433[21:53:36] <seto> got a problem with my sound on debian 8 i
have only hdmi listed as available this is my sound card from Audio
device: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 0e)
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3437[21:55:58] <TomTomTosch> seto: does cat /proc/asound/cards
list PCH or only HDMI ?
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3438[21:57:03] <seto> 0 [PCH ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
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3439[21:57:03] <seto> HDA Intel PCH at 0xd0914000 irq 106
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3441[21:58:06] <seto> not sure why it is not working
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3442[21:58:16] <seto> i had the issue on ubuntu before as well
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3443[21:58:23] <seto> damned if i can recall how i fixxed it
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3444[21:58:43] <seto> got the pavucontrol or what ever installed
etc
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3445[21:59:18] <TomTomTosch> where do you see hdmi listed as the
only option?
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3446[21:59:19] <Brigo> seto, you can try this:
replaced-url
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3448[21:59:22] <jelly> seto: what does "aplay -l" say
(put the whole output on paste.debian.net and link here)
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3450[22:00:01] <silverfall> jelly: and you point me to a website
that again doesn't answer my question.
replaced-url
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3453[22:01:14] <seto>
replaced-url
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3455[22:01:59] <jelly> silverfall: no? If you want to help
translating, it tells you to join your language's i18n / l10n
mailing list
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3456[22:02:17] <markybob> silverfall: a) it does. b) you might
want to know you're talking to an op
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3457[22:02:23] <jelly> silverfall: what do you want to do?
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3463[22:03:34] <jelly> silverfall: do you want to fix
inconsistencies on the web? Subscribe to the debian-replaced-url
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3465[22:03:53] <jelly> silverfall: debian is very large, there
are dozens of subprojects
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3466[22:04:26] <silverfall> markybob: i'm not a pushover
that will treat people differently depending on their rank inside a
community, unlike you. Tip: if you truly believe in something, stand
for it
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3467[22:04:33] <jelly> silverfall: so, to start, pick a part
you're interested in.
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3468[22:04:43] <seto> so any ways what i see right off the rip
with hat i droped in the paste bin is all pch listings are for hdmi
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3469[22:04:52] <seto> nothing for head phone jack or internal
speakers
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3470[22:04:54] <silverfall> jelly: I got it. I remember entering
replaced-url
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3471[22:05:19] <silverfall> thank you for the human answer
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3472[22:06:18] <jelly> silverfall: your stance does seem more
argumentative than it need be, esp. if you want to help
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3476[22:07:48] <jelly> seto: that's weird. how old is this
machine? Perhaps a newer kernel would help
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3479[22:09:13] <seto> its a chrome book