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17[00:07:19] <ero95> hi. how actively maintained is xfce vs
gnome?
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22[00:09:50] <n4dir> not so much. it doesn't break all the
time.
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28[00:11:14] <awal1> How can I create a keyboard shortcut for
be able to send the mouse (pointer) from monitor A «---»
monitor B?
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29[00:11:53] <ero95> n4dir: was that a response to me?
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30[00:11:57] <awal1> That's because I have configured some
apps for display where the mouse is
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31[00:13:04] <awal1> ero95: in stable branch (jessie, right
now) all DE are stable. if in testing/unstable, xfce is more
"stable" since it's more conservative than gnome.
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33[00:13:11] <Janni> Hello. I have a question regarding the KDE
systemsettings program. I'm not a KDE user, I only use the odd
KDE application. To configure the font for these applications
usually there should be a "Font" section in the
systemsettings menu, but mine is mostly empty probably due to
missing packages. Can anybody tell me which packages I need to
install to get the appropriate module (i.e. menu entry)?
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34[00:14:05] <missmbob> hell the main "changes" xfce
is doing is gtk3. really not adding/changing much at all.
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37[00:14:34] <ero95> thank you awal1
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38[00:15:02] <ero95> mssmbob: that is good, yes?
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39[00:15:20] <missmbob> ero95: i think it's great
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40[00:15:20] <ero95> missmbob: that is good, yes?
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41[00:15:21] <ecadre> ero95: depends upon your perspective
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44[00:16:21] <ecadre> ero95: for my mother it's great,
she's kept basically the same desktop for a decade.
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45[00:16:44] <ero95> awal1 missmbob ecadre xfce vs gnome, which
is considered better for security and privacy?
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48[00:17:07] <awal1> :D
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51[00:17:51] <lethu> Hello, is it worth it to upgrade to debian
9 from jessie, to have the latest kde?
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52[00:17:55] <missmbob> ero95: now you're getting into
crap that really doesnt matter. use the one you like best.
that's really all there is to it.
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53[00:18:05] <ecadre> ero95: I can't see that it makes
much of a difference.
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56[00:19:11] <ecadre> lethu: depends upon what you're
expecting with that. Moving onto Sid should be carefully considered.
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57[00:19:54] <lethu> ecadre, carefully considered in what
sense?
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58[00:20:08] <missmbob> lethu: ask their channel #debian-next
on oftc (not freenode) its current state. might be broken as hell
with the xorg transition
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59[00:20:12] <ecadre> Then again, I'm not the best to talk
desktop environments with :-D
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62[00:20:51] <lethu> missmbob, ecadre thanks for the info, I
think I will just stick with jessie
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63[00:20:56] <lethu> :)
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64[00:21:35] <ecadre> lethu: for the reasons that missmbob
states, and the normal state of continual upgrades in unstable. You
need a practiced eye, and a bit of thought whilst upgrading in
unstable.
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65[00:21:56] <lethu> ecadre, I see thanks :))
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67[00:22:25] <ero95> missmbob in what sense do you mean that
security and privacy doesn't matter?
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70[00:23:09] <missmbob> ero95: i'm saying they're
comparable.
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72[00:24:13] <ecadre> ero95: I wouldn't choose one over
the other (xfce or gnome) for security or privacy reasons.
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76[00:25:18] * n4dir would have to think for quite a while to figure
out how DE's come into security/privacy problems.
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77[00:25:38] <zykotick9> ero95: but "stable" is
covered by debian's security team for updates, and is thus a
better choice for "security and privacy" over sid and
_especially over_ testing in my opinion... but ymmv?
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81[00:26:23] <awal1> n4dir: well, if you install ubuntu+unity
with amazon stuff, so you may end having privacy/security stuff
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82[00:26:30] <ecadre> n4dir: ummmm, shiny clicky things? ...
maybe not :-D
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83[00:26:42] <n4dir> who the hell would want to do that? awal1
...
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84[00:26:44] <awal1> privacy/security issues, I meant
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85[00:27:17] <ecadre> awal1: for all their faults, the Amazon
stuff is off by default in Ubuntu now.
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86[00:27:19] <awal1> n4dir: just an opinion :P
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87[00:27:41] <n4dir> you probably right, but i would call that
a rather extreme casse. In general: well: just saying it never came
to my mind, never thought of it
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88[00:27:59] <awal1> ecadre, good for ubuntu users
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90[00:28:12] <n4dir> smaller environments are sure more easy to
control (but i always thought of stability, not of security)
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92[00:28:36] <ecadre> awal1: the worrying thing is that
Canonical/Ubuntu thought it was a good thing to do in the first
place.
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94[00:28:50] <ecadre> astonishing in fact
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96[00:29:05] <ero95> missmbob ecadre thank you. i'm coming
from downstream distros. used to some hand holding but trying to
migrate upstream
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98[00:29:47] <n4dir> when trying to migrate i sure would stick
the the DE i am most comfortable with, ero95
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99[00:29:51] <ecadre> ero95: my recommendation would be to drop
Destkop Envirnments and use
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100[00:29:55] <ecadre> Stumpwm
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101[00:30:00] <ero95> i played around with the base debian de in
jessie. it wasn't clear how to set up automated update
notifications or automatic updates
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102[00:30:07] <ero95> n4dir thanks
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103[00:30:10] <ecadre> ... but most people would disagree with m
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104[00:30:13] <ecadre> me
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105[00:30:13] <n4dir> first get used to the distro, then
consider switching DE (or WM)
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106[00:30:28] <ecadre> and quite right too ;-)
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107[00:30:32] <n4dir> well: i get easily confused. to each his
own
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112[00:31:30] <awal1> ero95, well X DE can security bugs but
it's rare, privacy is almost software (apps) related (konqueror
as web browser and file manager is a controversial thing) and how
your system is configured and what you do with it
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113[00:31:44] <awal1> can have security bugs ^
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123[00:33:28] <ero95> cli is cli, but i'm not an expert and
i've been spoiled by nice update guis downstream. could i get
that by installing xfce or gnome on debian jessie?
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124[00:33:38] <ryouma> if i used gnome or even kde i think i
would get really confused about what's doing what
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126[00:33:45] <ryouma> i just use fluxbox
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127[00:33:45] <ecadre> One thing I've noticed is that in
use, xfge is considerably "lighter" on the machine.
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128[00:34:01] <ero95> kde is overload for me
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129[00:34:01] <ecadre> ^^ xfce
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132[00:34:38] <ryouma> ero95: you can install all sorts of
things and they will work. if you want a gui for a package mangaer
you mean?
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134[00:35:11] <awal1> ero95: you have a nice how to here about
security/privacy
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135[00:36:15] <ero95> ryouma: maybe. i don't know the
terminology well. i like the automated update checks and changelogs
in unity (gasp) and the risk ratings in mint
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138[00:37:13] <ero95> awal1: thank you
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141[00:37:36] <ecadre> ryouma: fluxbox ... far too flash :-P
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142[00:38:13] <ero95> ryouma: but my instinct is to minimize
exposure to canonical
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143[00:38:38] <awal1> ero95: are you a debian user?
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144[00:38:47] <ecadre> ero95: use Debian then.
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146[00:39:26] <ero95> awal1: i'm getting my feet wet in
debian. (migrating upstream)
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148[00:39:54] <ecadre> I've never got on with Ubuntu or
derivatives really, on a technical level that is. I'm not fond
of many of the antics of Canonical either.
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149[00:40:20] <ryouma> ero95: hmm, you can call aptitude or
apt-get or apt in a script using cron to check for updates, and
download them, and then, say, manually approve them, or things like
that. dunno what those fancy things are though.
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151[00:42:51] <ero95> i mean no offense to anyone, and i
appreciate the ease of use of ubuntu, mint, etc, but debian seems
more trustworthy
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152[00:43:31] <ecadre> if you do that in a script (automatically
download updates), just make sure you have plenty of space in your
root partition.
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155[00:44:02] <awal1> ,v unattended-upgrades
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156[00:44:06] <judd> Package: unattended-upgrades on amd64 --
wheezy: 0.79.5+wheezy2; wheezy-security: 0.79.5+wheezy2; jessie:
0.83.3.2+deb8u1; jessie-security: 0.83.3.2+deb8u1; stretch: 0.92;
sid: 0.93; stretch: 0.93
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158[00:44:12] <ecadre> ero95: I agree. I like the makeup of the
debian project too.
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160[00:44:18] <plasmoduck> I have awesome wm installed but I
can't see it in the list of wm's when I login?
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161[00:44:21] <ecadre> well, prefer it anyway.
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162[00:44:29] <n4dir>
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169[00:45:33] <ecadre> Actually, how do you turn off those
notifications and downloads in debian gnome?
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184[00:49:45] <ecadre> plasmoduck: which desktop manager are you
using? That will help people giving an answer.
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185[00:49:58] <awal1> plasmoduck: lightdm?
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187[00:50:22] <awal1> there is a bug about your issue, just
google it
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188[00:50:29] <plasmoduck> I guess, whatever comes with Debian.
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189[00:50:31] <ecadre> awal1: that's the default one
installed these days?
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190[00:50:33] <ero95> ecadre: automatic updates are on by
default when you install debian gnome?
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192[00:51:00] <awal1> ecadre, for xfce, yeah, maybe for mate and
lxde too
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193[00:51:18] <ecadre> ero95: they seem to be. It's not my
box, but I manage the updates/upgrades on it and the notifications
are an irritant.
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197[00:51:52] <ecadre> ero95: the auto downloads are a nuisance
too with disk space.
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200[00:52:58] <ecadre> awal1: ah, yes, actually I do know that
with gnome you get gdm3
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202[00:54:00] <ecadre> I know that none of them seem to pick up
stumpwm, but then again I don't use a DM.
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206[00:56:15] <ero95> mint has a good update manager that rates
updates by estimated risk
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208[00:56:46] <n4dir> i rate the risk on debian stable myself:
either no risk or close to no risk
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210[00:57:17] <ecadre> ero95: I would question their definition
of risk anyway.
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211[00:57:51] <n4dir> and on testing/unstable there is
apt-listbugs (which can help a bit, but won't replace a
backup-solution)
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212[00:57:55] <ero95> but you can't set it to automatically
install low-risk updates and then choose when to install updates
more likely to cause instability
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214[00:58:20] <awal1> plasmoduck: temporally, you may want to
create a hidden file in your home dir (.xinitrc) and inside insert
this line: exec /usr/bin/awesome). When done, start awesome from
console. ctrl-alt+fx (1, 2, 3, 4, 5,6). when you're logged in
just run startx
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215[00:58:50] <n4dir> ero95: In general, to me, debian ,
compared with them, is rather a configure-it-the-way-you-want-it. So
i would not think much bout so called defaults.
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216[00:59:01] <n4dir> install it and configure it to your
liking.
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219[00:59:33] <n4dir> obviously much is done already when using
a DE. So you will have to make changes or be happy with the way it
is.
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222[00:59:51] <n4dir> does that make any sense, ero95 ?
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223[01:00:01] <ecadre> n4dir: most people I suspect just go with
one of the default DE installs and then theme/fiddle with their
desktop settings
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224[01:00:16] <ecadre> which is OK, if that's all you want.
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226[01:00:57] <n4dir> sure. But thing is: no need to ask before.
Look at it, think what you don't like, change it (by asking
people how do i add/remove this or that feature)
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227[01:00:59] <ero95> ecadre: true. installing browser security
updates is less likely to cause system issues than a major kernel
update
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228[01:01:19] <ecadre> but Debian is great for custom installs,
it doesn't try to insist on all the, um, "baggage"
that other derivatives do.]
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229[01:01:33] <n4dir> and, as far it's me, gnome and xfce
can easily be installed and used both (WM's anyway).
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230[01:01:53] <ero95> n4dir: i like the customizability
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231[01:01:56] <n4dir> to make it short: there is no need to make
much decisions before even installing
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232[01:02:03] <ero95> not sure how that affects updates, though
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233[01:02:15] <n4dir> the friendly version: ero95 just take it
easy . Will work fine
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234[01:02:19] <ecadre> ero95: not a great deal.
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237[01:02:56] <ecadre> ero95: I have a less common setup, ad
updates and upgrades are no issue.
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238[01:03:02] <ecadre> ^ and
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239[01:03:06] <ero95> n4dir: i've installed already
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240[01:03:12] <ero95> multiple times
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241[01:03:15] <n4dir> ero95: it affects updates in the meaning:
if such feature ain't there, no problem, just add it
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244[01:03:27] <ero95> i tweak, ruin and start over
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246[01:03:37] <n4dir> :-) tell me about it
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250[01:04:07] <ecadre> ruin?
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251[01:04:08] <n4dir> doing a "cp -a /etc
/root/backup_etc" won't hurt
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254[01:04:28] <ero95> if there is a hard way to learn something,
i will find it. i can render a system unusable in record time
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255[01:04:39] <ecadre> doing proper backups is a good idea all
round.
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256[01:04:59] <ecadre> rsnapshot is great
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257[01:05:06] <n4dir> with debian it should be very hard to ruin
the installation (well, debian stable)
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259[01:05:18] <ecadre> n4dir: indeed
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260[01:05:21] <n4dir> well: don't add third party software
...
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261[01:05:24] <likcoras> openssh-server gives me both
sshd.service and ssh.socket+ssh@.service, what exactly is the
difference between those?
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271[01:10:09] <ecadre> likcoras:
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272[01:10:19] <yokisuci> Has someone here used the Base16 shell
themes with URxvt? For some reason i guett ugly white borders aronud
the windows using that set shell theme script. :/
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273[01:10:34] <likcoras> Oh, alright.
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274[01:10:38] <ecadre> likcoras: something to do with the way
systemd spawns the service,
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276[01:11:09] <likcoras> Why is it not the default in debian, if
spawning sshd on-demand is the recommended way to do it?
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277[01:11:13] <likcoras> Just curious
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281[01:13:26] <ecadre> likcoras: heh, no idea. I would observe
that it is the "reccomendation" from the Arch wiki, not
Debian developers.
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283[01:14:09] <likcoras> I mean, thinking about it, it kinda
makes sense, being able to edit and apply sshd_config without
worrying and such
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284[01:14:17] <likcoras> But eh
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288[01:15:44] <likcoras> Is there a way to avoid installing
suggested/recommended packages during installation? Would doing so
break my system?
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296[01:18:15] <likcoras> Also the installer seems to have
selected task-laptop even though I did not select it during
installation, is that normal?
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299[01:20:50] <n4dir> choosing a DE during tasksel and at the
same time wanting to avoid installing recommends seems pointless
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300[01:21:12] <n4dir> and as long one deselects taskel: well,
,pretty small result.
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302[01:21:23] <n4dir> if that ain't enough: debootstrap
installation
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305[01:22:18] <ecadre> not installing recomended or optional
won't "break" an install I wouldn't have thought
... it probably wouldn't function in the you'd expect
though.
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311[01:28:24] <ero95> likcoras: are you using the expert install
option?
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312[01:28:33] <likcoras> yes!
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316[01:29:32] <likcoras> Also, was asking since I see a lot of
packages installed that I don't think I'll use, ever, like
mutt.
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317[01:29:47] <petemc> it sucks less
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318[01:29:56] <likcoras> I don't think I selected anything
at all in that installation stage.
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322[01:31:45] * zykotick9 remembers a time (squeeze?) where mutt was
not part of the "default" install... having it there has
made my life easier...
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324[01:32:25] <ecadre> likcoras: one of my pastimes, every now
and again, is clearing out packages I don't want/need.
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326[01:32:49] <likcoras> Well, yeah, but it would be easier to
not install them in the first place.
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327[01:32:51] <ecadre> not sure how really productive it is,
though it will save on bandwidth for updates.
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328[01:32:52] <likcoras> =/
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330[01:33:10] <missmbob> mutt is actually pretty great. just fyi
:P
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331[01:33:27] <missmbob> i use it with my google for work domain
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332[01:33:51] <likcoras> Yeah, but unless I'm doing
something horribly wrong, mail should be good enough, I think.
Hopefully don't get too many emails about sudo breaking or
whatever.
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334[01:34:06] <ecadre> likcoras: everything is a compromise. You
can't satisfy everybody ... just be glad that you're not
being sledgehammered into a huge install in the way that some
distros do.
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336[01:34:54] <likcoras> Yeah, I guess. I'm coming from
Arch, so it does kinda feel weird to see mutt installed without me
telling it to be installed.
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338[01:35:07] <n4dir> Slackware way: recommended is to install
everything and the kitchen sink. lol
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339[01:35:13] <likcoras> Oh well, guess I'll be clearing
stuff out in the near future. Thanks, everyone!
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341[01:35:27] <likcoras> May also consider a debootstrap
install, I think that'd be more similar to the arch install
process, I think.
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342[01:35:46] <petemc> or uncheck the tickboxes for task
packages
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343[01:35:56] <petemc> in normal install
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345[01:36:23] <likcoras> Huh, I deselected everything but in
expert install. Would that end up installing more packages than in
the normal install?
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346[01:36:24] <ecadre> petemc: yep, that's the way, them
build the system you want.
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348[01:36:27] <zykotick9> likcoras: one suggestion/warning - be
careful breaking metapackages :( and if possible... don't. ymmv
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349[01:36:40] <likcoras> Hah, will keep in mind.
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350[01:36:47] <petemc> likcoras: if you did you wouldnt have
mutt, its not part of base
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353[01:36:57] <ecadre> likcoras: what are you wanting to end up
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354[01:37:39] <likcoras> Not sure for now, currently
experimenting with debian to eventually use on a personal server,
but I don't like seeing random stuff on my system that I
don't need.
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359[01:38:17] <likcoras> Mostly trying to see which would be the
best distro to go with for now, I guess.
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367[01:40:49] <zykotick9> likcoras: selecting nothing during
netinst, configuring apt.conf then installing pre-selected packages
(and avoiding metapackages where possible!) and produce _very_
customized builds with debian... just sayin'
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369[01:41:14] <zykotick9> s/and produce/CAN produce/
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371[01:41:27] <likcoras> Is the configuring apt.conf part is
after finishing installation?
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372[01:42:53] <zykotick9> likcoras: personally, i select the
"system utilitizes" <- or whatever it's called
(that i believe includes mutt) during install, then run scripts that
build up my very minimal environments from there... apt.conf is one
of MANY config files build into my "install-foo.sh"
scripts ;)
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375[01:44:13] <zykotick9> likcoras: BUT - i typically diable
both suggests and recommends for my installs - it _does_ cut down on
functionality so be careful with it! test, test, test ;)
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377[01:45:20] <likcoras> I see... Just making sure, does netinst
produce a more minimal system than a regular debian dvd image?
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379[01:45:33] <n4dir> likcoras: no
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380[01:45:34] <zykotick9> i _can_
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382[01:45:47] <likcoras> Huh...
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383[01:45:48] <zykotick9> s/i _can_/it _can/
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385[01:46:37] <ecadre> netinstall is just a smaller image to
download
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386[01:46:43] <ecadre> that's all.
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387[01:46:44] <n4dir> well: if you ain't got no network
connection when using the netinstall: that will result in a very
minimal system (and i think smaller than .... yada, yada)
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388[01:46:46] <zykotick9> don't select anything (or only
"system utils") during netinst and you get a _very_
minimal "base" system!!!
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389[01:47:01] <n4dir> do the same with the DVD and you will get
the same result
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390[01:47:04] <petemc> plus mutt
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392[01:47:13] <ecadre> and it needs a connection with a repo
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393[01:47:40] <petemc> does recent debian not skip mta?
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394[01:47:41] <zykotick9> ecadre: actually netinst does NOT need
a connection to give a working install!
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395[01:47:58] <likcoras> Wait, really?
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396[01:48:08] <n4dir> at least in the past installation finished
anyway, but the result was a tough one
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397[01:48:14] <ecadre> zykotick9: for 99.9999% of people :-P
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399[01:49:01] <ecadre> depends upon your definition of
"working". But it is not the intended use.
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400[01:49:22] <petemc> debian has not intentions
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408[01:53:19] <dpkg> ni291187: vedi
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411[01:54:35] <petemc> someone once explained to me why italian
people join this channel and !list
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412[01:55:32] <ecadre> petemc: why?
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413[01:55:37] <petemc> i dont recall
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414[01:55:58] <ni291187> fanculo
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415[01:56:07] <ecadre> heh
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418[01:56:46] <ni291187> fanculo
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420[01:57:24] <ni291187> gelo aiuto
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422[01:57:42] <petemc> berlusconi
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425[01:58:25] <ecadre> wash yer mouth out
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426[01:58:30] <petemc> :)
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455[02:10:44] <hard380> contemplating about this fo an hr now
lol,,is it bad adding ppa packages to a debian system?
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457[02:11:01] <missmbob> yes. dont do it
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459[02:11:36] <missmbob> !why not use a ppa
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460[02:11:36] <dpkg> PPAs (Ubuntu's Personal Package
Archives, see <PPA>) are not built against Debian releases,
they are built against Ubuntu releases. This makes using packages
from them on a Debian box highly unlikely to work out well. Ask me
about <ssb> <package recompile> <bobbitt>.
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461[02:11:47] <missmbob> hard380: read that ^
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464[02:12:11] <missmbob> hard380: you'll break things badly
if you start using ubuntu ppa's
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465[02:12:57] <hard380> feedback is very good lol..still wanna
do it.dam
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466[02:13:25] <missmbob> frankendebians arent supportd here, fyi
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473[02:16:49] <ecadre> hard380: what is it anyway?
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474[02:17:27] <ecadre> hard380: oh, and I'd agree with
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475[02:17:45] <hard380> lxd 2.0 trying out some containers i
guess
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493[02:24:20] <ecadre> hard380: lxc is in unstable
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500[02:26:21] <hard380> ecadre:yeah im gonna probly mess with it
more later.
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502[02:26:55] <hard380> bout 10 min ago i installed it..thanks
tho
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503[02:27:40] <ecadre> ah, just noticed "Project sponsored
by Canonical Ltd." ... hence all the emphasis on Ubuntu.
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506[02:29:56] <hard380> ecadre:u got that right for
sure...fucking Canonical!!
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511[02:30:45] <ecadre> hard380: don't come here for
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513[02:31:07] <screamslash> im trying to enable multiarch but i
keep getting this error
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514[02:31:09] <screamslash> bash: syntax error near unexpected
token `newline'
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517[02:31:59] <ecadre> screamslash: copy-paste ?
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518[02:32:05] <screamslash> i did
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519[02:32:13] <screamslash> that was the output of the dkph
command thing
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520[02:32:23] <missmbob> it's one line. dpkg
--add-architecture i386 && apt-get update
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521[02:32:33] <screamslash> bash: syntax error near unexpected
token `newline'
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524[02:32:54] <missmbob> i dont know what guide you're
reading but it's wrong. do what i said
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527[02:33:35] <screamslash> cherokee@housestark:~$ sudo dpkg
--add-architecture i386 && apt-get update
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528[02:33:35] <screamslash> E: Could not open lock file
/var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
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529[02:33:35] <screamslash> E: Unable to lock directory
/var/lib/apt/lists/
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530[02:33:35] <screamslash> E: Could not open lock file
/var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
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531[02:33:35] <screamslash> E: Unable to lock the administration
directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
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534[02:33:50] <screamslash> sorry i thought it would stay within
2 lines
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535[02:33:53] <screamslash> ill pastebin it
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536[02:34:07] <missmbob> you need to use sudo for apt-get update
as well
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537[02:34:11] <screamslash>
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539[02:34:12] <screamslash> i did
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540[02:34:16] <missmbob> no you didnt
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541[02:34:21] <missmbob> you did for dpkg not apt-get
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542[02:34:50] <ecadre> screamslash: && effectively
indicates a new command
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543[02:35:05] <ecadre> so that needs the right permissions too
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544[02:35:21] <screamslash> i thought sudo was like on a
cooldown and stayed in effect
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546[02:35:39] <ecadre> screamslash: you still need to use it
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547[02:35:46] <screamslash> well what do i do now
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548[02:35:50] <screamslash> after doing that
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549[02:35:51] <ecadre> it's not like su to root
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551[02:36:03] <petemc> && only works if previous command
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552[02:36:09] <missmbob> that it. you're done
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554[02:36:55] <ecadre> the newline error is something to do with
your copy-paste picking up extra stuff
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555[02:37:04] <screamslash> ok it worked thanks
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578[02:47:44] <asarch> One very stupid question: how can awake
an hibernated laptop?
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579[02:48:40] <petemc> if it didnt notice lid opening try brief
press of power button
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581[02:48:55] <asarch> It doesn't work
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582[02:49:02] <asarch> Nor with any button
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584[02:49:19] <petemc> power management is hard
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585[02:49:28] <ecadre> wait til spring.
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587[02:51:48] <ecadre> asarch: not turning on at all?
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591[02:54:49] <asarch> No
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592[02:55:01] <asarch> I have to press the power button for a
while to restart the laptop
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594[02:55:22] <asarch> And every time, it has to recover the
journal from the partitions
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595[02:55:50] <petemc> really?
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602[02:58:29] <ecadre> like petemc says, laptops can be weird. I
have a little HP thing that won't play any sounds until
it's been hibernated/suspended once.
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607[03:00:30] <asarch> Yeah
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608[03:00:42] <asarch> Is there any way I could help to debug
this problem?
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609[03:00:48] <asarch> Maybe dmesg output?
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610[03:00:48] <t4nk022> Hey all, switched to Debian recently and
loving it. There's just one thing I've struggled with
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613[03:01:05] <t4nk022> In Ubuntu, it auto detected when I
plugged in differnet monitors and adjusted the resolution
accordingly
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614[03:01:18] <t4nk022> In Debian, I have to manually configure
it every time with xrandr or the Display dialog
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615[03:01:28] <t4nk022> I wonder what the tool that auto
configures displays is called
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616[03:02:04] <petemc> xrandr
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618[03:02:46] <t4nk022> yes, but I guess Ubuntu had different
settings because it appeared to work seamlessly?
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619[03:02:56] <t4nk022> I could plug in any monitor and it would
use the correct settings
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620[03:03:14] <t4nk022> Is it just running xrandr --auto?
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622[03:03:50] <asarch> This is not Ubuntu... THIS... IS...
SPARTAAAAA!!! o/
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623[03:04:01] <asarch> JK, you could try with an xorg.conf file
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625[03:05:05] <asarch> Turn off GDM3 a while (service gdm3
stop), generate a blank xorg.file with X -configure, move that file
to /etc/X11 and set it up as you wish
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626[03:05:40] <missmbob> which isnt at all what he/she wants or
is asking.
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628[03:06:10] <missmbob> i assume it's just a udev rule
they have which runs xrandr. i dont have an ubuntu box to check or a
monitor to unplug
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630[03:07:10] <asarch> D'oh! :-(
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632[03:07:44] <t4nk022> missmbob thanks, that pointed me in the
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636[03:09:48] <ecadre> what's "Hybrid sleep" ?
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644[03:15:16] <ecadre> asarch: btw. my hibernate/suspend is done
from the cli using pm-utils. It was the only way it works properly.
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647[03:16:29] <asarch> What's the difference between
hibernate and suspend?
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648[03:16:34] <asarch> Aren't they the same?
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649[03:16:57] <ecadre> hibernate sends everything to the hard
disk and turns off the computer.
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652[03:17:14] <ecadre> suspend is a ram thing and still uses
some power.
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655[03:17:28] <ecadre> probably ram and disk I suppose.
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657[03:18:03] <missmbob> suspend works a lot more often.
generally because people dont use over 2x ram for swap and wonder
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667[03:21:49] <ecadre> missmbob: hibernate uses swap then?
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672[03:22:11] <missmbob> yes. over 2x ram is the magic
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675[03:22:49] <missmbob> it has to fit everything in currently
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676[03:23:16] <ecadre> missmbob: I always use that amount of
swap. It's what I originally remember being told what to do.
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677[03:23:32] <ecadre> in the dim and distant past.
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679[03:23:53] <ecadre> tribal lore from the ancients,
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727[03:56:04] <irreleph4nt> Hi all. Anyone here running Debian
on a Microsoft Surface Book?
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729[03:57:36] <asarch> Thank you guys :-)
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732[04:00:03] <irreleph4nt> I am new to Debian (used to use Arch
Linux). Can someone please give me some pointers on how I can
upgrade gnome-shell to something newer than 3.14?
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735[04:01:00] <irreleph4nt> Doesn't need to be
bleeding-edge but - for example - I'd like to use the
notifications center at the top not at the bottom, together with the
calendar
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775[04:26:59] <Alias> Hello
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776[04:27:01] <Alias> For some reason aliases I made in .bashrc
are not runnable with a shell script (command not found) but will
work if I manually run them in a terminal. How can I fix this
problem? I used this article:
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777[04:27:03] <Alias> I am currently using Raspbian Jessie
latest release
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778[04:27:11] <missmbob> irreleph4nt: there's no backport
for gnome
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779[04:27:16] <missmbob> !raspbian
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780[04:27:16] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
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781[04:27:42] <missmbob> irreleph4nt: really the only thing you
can do is move to stretch, which is the next release (currently in
testing)
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782[04:27:43] <Alias> Doesn't debian have aliases as well
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783[04:27:58] <Alias> ?
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784[04:28:03] <Polarina> Until recently, when a binary with
RPATH set calls dlopen(), the dlopen-ed library's dependencies
were resolved using the binary's RPATH, even if the dlopen-ed
library had no RPATH set. This broke sometime recently in Stretch,
the binary's RPATH is ignored when resolving dependencies on
dlopen-ed libraries.
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786[04:28:18] <Polarina> Any ideas as to what might have caused
this breakage, and if it's intentional or not?
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791[04:29:45] <missmbob> Alias: we dont know how raspbian
changes affect aliases (ie, which does it use, bash, dash, something
else?). ask raspbian
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812[04:40:26] <Alias> missmbob: Alright, thanks
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826[04:42:41] <umbSublime> Alias, check this tread
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830[04:42:43] <umbSublime> this is not related to raspbian so to
speak but rather to bash itself (it's the default shell in
raspbian)
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833[04:43:46] <umbSublime> in bash version4+, you could do
${BASH_ALIAS[alias_name]}
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834[04:43:54] <Alias> umbSublime: Thanks man, kmoss in
#raspberrypi found out you can use "source script.sh" and
it will work. Thanks
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835[04:44:14] <Alias> umbSublime: Your anwser works, thanks!
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882[05:05:11] <plasmoduck> hey guys can i get some help with my
biometric scaner on my laptop how do i get it going?
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883[05:05:30] <plasmoduck> ill post lspci
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971[05:40:42] <EppeeKin> Anyone familiar with kali os?
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972[05:40:52] <missmbob> !kali
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973[05:40:52] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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976[05:42:47] <EppeeKin> Is someone out there familiar with
cali?
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979[05:44:36] <EppeeKin> Need help on merging an expanded
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980[05:44:59] <missmbob> EppeeKin: why dont you read the bit
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981[05:46:22] <EppeeKin> I did but I can't get into the
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985[05:46:37] <EppeeKin> So I am looking for help from its
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986[05:46:50] <EppeeKin> Kali linux
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987[05:47:08] <missmbob> EppeeKin: #freenode will tell you how
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990[05:48:34] <missmbob> "is not supported in #debian"
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992[05:50:03] <muscleking> muscle worship come worship me
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994[05:50:31] <muscleking>
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995[05:50:36] <missmbob> muscleking: please stop
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999[05:52:10] <mdfkr> anyone here who could help me with
resolution of my screen?
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1001[05:52:45] <muscleking>
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1003[05:53:14] <muscleking> just collecting more pay fags
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1004[05:54:08] <muscleking> Muscle worship 1000 slaves strong
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1005[05:54:49] <dvs> !ops muscleking is spamming
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1006[05:54:49] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: dvs complains
about: muscleking is spamming
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1009[05:55:50] <muscleking> Over $21,000 in tributes and gifts
since February. Not bad! You all know I deserve it. Now let's
hit that $3,000 goal this week!
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1011[05:56:08] <muscleking> <-- I wrote that in May. LOL!
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1013[05:57:12] <muscleking> with my new slave-paid-for mercedes:
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1014[05:57:32] <Kevin_McQuay>
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1016[05:57:43] <Kevin_McQuay> oops wrong channel sorry
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1017[05:59:08] <muscleking> my used socks for sale
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1018[05:59:15] <muscleking> $600. pm for details.
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1097[06:42:16] <quz> Will my computer run on Debian
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1101[06:43:54] <dvs> quz, No, Debian will run on your computer.
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1102[06:44:24] <Logg> ^
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1103[06:44:29] <Logg> I love you dvs
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1105[06:44:42] <dvs> ???
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1106[06:44:56] <Logg> I've admired you for so long, silently
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1107[06:45:03] <Logg> but now, I confess, in front of all #debian
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1108[06:45:07] <Logg> dvs
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1109[06:45:09] <Logg> will you marry me?
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1110[06:45:20] <redcheckers> Logg: you have to have a ring when
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1111[06:45:24] <dvs> I don't want to commit bigamy
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1112[06:45:30] <Logg> O*
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1113[06:45:35] <Logg> it's a ring
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1156[07:05:27] <plasmoduck> can someone please help me get the
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1158[07:06:52] <v01> plasmoduck, are you aware that if your
password is a fingerprint it is not protected by 4th ammendment?
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1159[07:07:12] <v01> This has been established with people using
the feature on iPhones.
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1160[07:07:34] <banekillgrind> yup
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1161[07:07:57] <banekillgrind> pretty terrible
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1162[07:08:23] <v01> Even if it was protected, I personally
don't want my fingerprint as a password.
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1163[07:08:30] <v01> Fingerprints are everywhere you leave them
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1168[07:09:26] <v01> plasmoduck: I am not telling you how to live
you life I just wanted you to know.
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1169[07:09:44] <banekillgrind> yeah its about as secure as using
bathroom grafitti. You were here
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1170[07:09:49] <v01> lol
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1173[07:10:56] <banekillgrind> super convenient though
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1174[07:11:40] <banekillgrind> when im trashed i can still use my
phone
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1177[07:13:19] <Logg> even more reason not to use password for
fingerpirt
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1198[07:19:04] <jim_carry> i'm not able to install kdenlive
on jessie
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1199[07:19:24] <jim_carry> it says package have unmet
dependencies
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1205[07:21:09] <mrrtump> did u run apt-get update first
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1206[07:21:10] <mrrtump> ?
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1207[07:21:21] <jim_carry> yes
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1208[07:21:46] <missmbob> how are you trying to install it?
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1209[07:21:47] <jim_carry> I ran update, upgrade, dist-upgrade,
autoclean, autoremove
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1210[07:21:57] <jim_carry> apt-get install kdenlive
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1211[07:22:05] <missmbob> !bat
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1212[07:22:05] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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1214[07:22:43] <v01> could also try apt-get -f install
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1215[07:22:44] <plasmoduck> !biometrics
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1216[07:22:57] <jim_carry> v01: I tried it reports same error
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1217[07:23:11] <v01> My apologies.
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1223[07:23:56] <mns> what are the unmet dependencies it is
complaining about ?
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1224[07:24:16] <missmbob> we're waiting for him to pastebin
what the bot requested
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1225[07:24:27] <mns> ahh ok
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1226[07:24:50] <plasmoduck> I want to use my finger print for
sudoing
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1227[07:25:31] <jim_carry>
replaced-url
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1228[07:25:51] <missmbob> jim_carry: how is that even close to
everything the bot asked for?
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1229[07:26:03] <jim_carry> please give me sometime
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1230[07:26:13] <missmbob> do it all at once
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1234[07:26:56] <missmbob> jim_carry: do you have deb-multimedia
sources?
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1244[07:31:37] <jim_carry>
replaced-url
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1246[07:32:02] <jim_carry> missmbob: I paste my source.list
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1247[07:32:52] <jim_carry>
replaced-url
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1251[07:33:34] <jim_carry> should i install dependency manually?
will it break system?
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1252[07:33:37] <missmbob> jim_carry: yeah, that's not good
enough sources. you need to add security and updates for the main
repository to really work
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1253[07:33:42] <missmbob> !jessie sources.list
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1254[07:33:42] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb
replaced-url
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1255[07:34:07] <missmbob> jim_carry: in addition to those ^ three
lines, add your existing jessie-backports. then apt-get update
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1258[07:34:42] <missmbob> jim_carry: (hint - libav-tools you want
is in the security repository your sources dont have)
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1260[07:34:47] <mrrhq> Is it safe to assume deb-multimedia has
largele become pretty useless? I forget what's in there
that's not in the regular repos.
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1261[07:34:55] <mrrhq> *largely
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1262[07:35:01] <missmbob> mrrhq: it's more than useless. it
breaks a lot of shit on debian
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1263[07:35:53] <mrrhq> I used it in the past, but I can't
recall it breaking anything. I think I used it back when I needed
codecs, but now they're in Debian's main repos.
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1265[07:36:21] <sillyslux> that was for libdvdcss me thinks
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1268[07:36:43] <missmbob> i just recently helped someone figure
out it's media codecs were causing firefox to crash. that took
forever to track down
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1269[07:36:44] <mrrhq> I think I used it for some kind of H.264
library.
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1271[07:37:32] <mrrhq> Yes, back when it was called Debian
Multimedia.
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1272[07:37:56] <missmbob> back in the day it had its uses. now
it's just annoying
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1275[07:40:33] <missmbob> jim_carry: worked out?
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1281[07:43:14] <mrrtump> xfs or jfs for 4t usb drive?
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1283[07:43:35] <jim_carry> apt-get update is going on..speed is
very slow
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1287[07:45:49] <mrrhq> BTRFS if you're not using RAID, ext4
or xfs if you want to be sane.
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1289[07:46:03] <mrrhq> I've never used JFS, so i don't
know what kind of FS-level utilities it has.
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1292[07:46:20] <jim_carry> i tried 2 3 times it always stuck at
`100% [connecting to ftp.debian.org (130.89.148.12)]`
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1297[07:47:20] <mrrhq> Mine says "replaced-url
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1299[07:48:21] <mrrhq> That one seems to work best for me.
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1300[07:48:22] <jim_carry> missmbob: it doesn't after
update, it give same error
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1302[07:49:08] <missmbob> jim_carry: this is after it processed
everything? or did you just ctrl+c out of that 100% and call it
good?
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1306[07:49:35] <mrrhq> I think you need the "/debian"
at the end.
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1307[07:49:56] <jim_carry> yes after processed everything
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1308[07:49:59] <missmbob> jim_carry: you should pastebin your
updated sources.list
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1326[07:55:24] <jim_carry>
replaced-url
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1327[07:55:24] <missmbob> jim_carry: if it's not exactly
like this do it again and make it exactly like this.
replaced-url
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1331[07:56:51] <missmbob> yeah that's a mess. just copy the
one i pasted. apt-get update. try again. if that doesnt work
we'll need you to redo the bat steps as before
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1344[08:04:25] <jaggz> # ip a "bash: alert: command not
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1346[08:04:58] <mrrtump> doh
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1347[08:04:59] <jaggz> I'm trying to resolve a wifi issue
(my wifi drops and I can't reconnect without sleeping the
system and coming back)
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1348[08:05:18] <jaggz> so I'm following this guide:
replaced-url
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1349[08:05:33] <jaggz> I currently use kde's network manager
thingy
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1350[08:05:34] <mrrtump> here is best wway to resolve wifi
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1351[08:05:40] <mrrtump> get an ethernet cable
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1352[08:05:45] <mrrtump> plug to your router
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1353[08:05:46] <jaggz> i'm too far away :)
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1354[08:05:47] <mrrtump> be happy
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1355[08:05:56] <jaggz> 100 feet and across the yard :)
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1356[08:06:05] <mrrtump> walk 95 feet
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1357[08:06:08] <jaggz> lol
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1364[08:06:40] <jaggz> I've been meaning to pull some
cable.. but I need some cable to do that :)
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1367[08:07:51] <jim_carry> missmbob: it reports same error
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1368[08:07:51] <jaggz> is there going to be conflict if I add
wlan0 to network/interfaces?
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1372[08:09:27] <mrrtump> my main conflict is I have a 4T and a 3T
usb drive
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1373[08:09:28] <mrrtump> jfs
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1375[08:09:40] <mrrtump> and I wonder if XFS would be better
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1376[08:09:52] <mrrtump> I also have 1.1 T fo files on the 3T
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1377[08:10:00] <mrrtump> and not quite enuf space to copy to the
4T
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1378[08:10:01] <mrrtump> heh
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1379[08:10:17] <mrrtump> kek kek kek
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1382[08:12:03] <jim_carry> missmbob: it reports same error
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1383[08:12:29] <missmbob> then i'd need to see another bat
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1394[08:18:19] <jim_carry> what is bat missmbob ?
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1396[08:18:55] <missmbob> !bat
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1397[08:18:55] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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1408[08:23:29] <jim_carry> missmbob: can i post it after 10
minutes? im in another work
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1409[08:23:38] <jim_carry> sorry for delay
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1411[08:23:47] <missmbob> sure
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1425[08:28:03] <ImUs3r> tftp -gl i1 192.168.1.9 <— what
it means?
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1434[08:34:56] <jim_carry> missmbob:
replaced-url
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1436[08:36:20] <missmbob> jim_carry: apt-get install kdenlive -t
jessie-backports
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1437[08:36:30] <missmbob> jim_carry: see if that works
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1439[08:37:45] <jim_carry> yes works
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1440[08:37:57] <jim_carry> thank you
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1442[08:38:19] <jim_carry> what is only install dependency with
backports than kdenlive
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1443[08:38:24] <jim_carry> what if*
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1444[08:38:41] <jim_carry> what if i only install dependency with
backports than kdenlive?
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1445[08:38:41] <missmbob> you must've previously gotten some
library from backports that forced a conflict.
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1446[08:38:53] <jim_carry> I only installed i3wm from backports
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1447[08:38:57] <jim_carry> have*
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1448[08:38:57] <missmbob> *shrug*
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1449[08:39:04] <missmbob> take the win
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1450[08:39:09] <mrrtump> iceWM
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1460[08:46:09] <mrrhq> Typically what would happen if you
installed something from backports is, next time you update, and the
the stable version is highter than your installed backports, it
should override it, correct?
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1470[08:53:25] <fx9> where can I get some flash installing help
on debian 8? yes i know its junk but some websites need it
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1472[08:55:20] <missmbob> fx9: i use this.
replaced-url
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1473[08:55:49] <fx9> oh interesting
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1474[08:55:55] <fx9> lemme try this
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1477[08:58:14] <fx9> hmm that didn't work
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1479[08:58:30] <missmbob> you ran it as root? was there an error?
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1480[08:58:41] <fx9> no error it says installed
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1481[08:58:44] <missmbob> what browser?
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1482[08:58:48] <fx9> chromium
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1483[08:59:14] <missmbob> did you kill it? it stays running in
the background even when you close it. you have to really kill the
background process
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1484[08:59:51] <fx9> i did a killall chromium first
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1486[09:00:24] <fx9> is it possible to see which directory
chromium is looking in for plugins?
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1488[09:00:53] <missmbob> i dont know. that script worked for me
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1492[09:03:22] <n4dir> did you try to install from the repos?
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1493[09:03:52] <missmbob> n4dir: see bug #841373
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1494[09:03:53] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1496[09:04:13] <fx9> oh i've tried everything
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1497[09:04:26] <fx9> backport repos
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1498[09:04:29] <fx9> pepperflash
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1499[09:04:37] <fx9> offical adobe flash
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1500[09:04:55] <n4dir> i installed flashplugin-nonfree (or such),
seems to work.
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1501[09:05:12] <fx9> i have that installed as well
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1502[09:05:15] <fx9> but no joy
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1504[09:05:23] <n4dir> but then: i don't use chromium
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1505[09:06:31] <xormor> n4dir, I stopped using Chromium because
it did not display hieroglyphs properly (ttf ancient fonts package).
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1516[09:09:52] <n4dir> fx9: assuming you have several versions of
flash installed, you might use update-alternatives to check which
one is used. The bad news, i am not sure bout the syntax. Found
this:
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1517[09:09:57] <n4dir> update-alternatives --config
flash-mozilla.so
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1518[09:10:48] <n4dir> which doesn't really convince me.
Look here (old, perhaps outdated ?):
replaced-url
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1519[09:13:24] <fx9> its funny, neither of those
update-alternatives work
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1520[09:13:27] <fx9> its completely borked
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1521[09:13:40] <im-so> Hey! I got a question! Why everytime I
boot up my laptop, I must enter "pulseaudio --start"
command to get sound working?
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1522[09:14:29] <mrrtump> cuz laptops suck
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1523[09:14:32] <mrrtump> use desktop
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1524[09:14:35] <mrrtump> I use alsa
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1525[09:14:39] <fx9> 70
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1527[09:16:58] <im-so> mrrtump: doesnt alsa works with one source
at the time? pulseaudio works with multiple sound sources
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1528[09:17:02] <fx9> flash sucks
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1529[09:17:16] <mrrtump> dunno
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1530[09:17:21] <fx9> its such a kludge
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1531[09:17:37] <mrrtump> webm
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1533[09:18:31] <fx9> screw this, reinstall debain
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1534[09:18:40] <mrrhq> im-so: ALSA can work with multiple sound
sources, since it has mixer capabilities. Pulseaudio is only needed
for audio-over-networking capabilities, and such.
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1535[09:18:44] <fx9> if in doube, format
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1536[09:18:49] <fx9> doubt*
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1537[09:19:14] <mrrhq> I think Pulse also has better
per-application audio adjustment, too.
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1543[09:21:10] <im-so> mrrhq: so pulseaudio is better at this
point. Everything is ok with pulseaudio, just I dont understand why
its not starting with OS, I mean I must start pulseaudio service
manualy everytime.
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1568[09:32:56] <mrrhq> Try: sudo systemctl status pulseaudio
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1569[09:33:04] <mrrhq> Does it say it's enabled?
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1577[09:35:39] <im-so> pulseaudio.service
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1579[09:36:53] <mrrhq> Yeah. It should say active.
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1580[09:37:36] <mrrhq> Might want to check journalctl -xb to see
if there's any errors during bootup. That might tell you why
it's not working at boot.
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1597[09:45:46] <koen_> whats the command to open a new tab or a
window in shell
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1598[09:46:01] <koen_> i want to use a USE newdatabase; in a
fresh windows
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1604[09:50:41] <jaggz> my alt-f keys stopped working
(they're assigned to changing desktops).. they appear fine in
my shortcuts (KDE), but don't work..
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1606[09:50:56] <jaggz> I restarted X already (but not the whole
system). alt keys work to pull down menus fine
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1610[09:52:33] <jaggz> re-setting them in system settings will
take the new value, but alt-fkeys still goes through as the
non-modified f key
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1611[09:52:42] <im-so> mrrhq:
replaced-url
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1625[10:01:11] <koen_> i want to use a USE newdatabase; in a
fresh windows.. whats the command to open a fresh tab
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1639[10:08:08] <introom> hi.
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1640[10:08:35] <introom> `man interfaces' says, ifdown/up
reads and acts based on /etc/network/interfaces
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1641[10:08:55] <introom> but which program runs up ifdown/ifup?
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1642[10:09:31] <introom> and how can I know that reversely? like
ps -ef or with other run time or static mechanism, instead of
checking the doc ?
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1660[10:30:53] <jelly> gebruiker: yes, the source package,
linux-grsec, is at that version now
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1661[10:31:30] <jelly> you're looking at an old binary
package built from an older source version
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1667[10:34:43] <gebruiker> jelly: it states 4.7 but is actually
4.8 bit irronious it seems
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1668[10:34:58] <gebruiker> erroneous*
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1670[10:35:54] <jelly> I just explained why, do you need a
rephrase
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1673[10:37:16] <i0nC4nn0n> why hello there
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1675[10:37:38] <i0nC4nn0n> anyone care to help me out installing
deluge and making it run on boot AFTER some cifs shares are
resolved?
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1676[10:37:40] <jelly> gebruiker:
"linux-grsec-source-4.7" binary package (.deb) was built
from "linux-grsec" source package at the time when
"linux-grsec" was at 4.7.something. The current version of
linux-grsec source package is 4.8.something
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1677[10:37:41] <i0nC4nn0n> i tried following this:
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1678[10:37:44] <i0nC4nn0n>
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1680[10:37:53] <i0nC4nn0n> but i somehow broke systemctl
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1699[10:46:43] <gebruiker> jelly: i understood why but it is a
bug because it states the wrong information
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1700[10:47:09] <jelly> not really
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1703[10:48:53] <gebruiker> jelly: have you actually read it?
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1708[10:49:59] <devCon> Hello there all, I would like to report a
problem with debian/testing-kde and the usb wifi card TPE-N150USBL
from thinkpenguin.com. I will file an issue in but wanted to check
before whether anyone has encountered a similar problem. The
problem: after following these steps
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1709[10:50:23] <themill> gebruiker: perhaps you could explain
what the issue is so that your question can be answered rather than
assuming people aren't providing you with the answer to what
you have actually asked.
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1711[10:51:06] <devCon> is that networks show up but
network-manager cannot establish a connection
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1715[10:51:55] <plasmoduck> themill: I was wondering if you could
assist me with biometrics? I used fprint and fprint_demo to scan my
prints but how do I use the scanner with gdm?
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1716[10:52:04] <themill> nope
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1718[10:52:24] <plasmoduck> anyone else?
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1719[10:52:35] <plasmoduck> Looks like there is little support
for it
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1720[10:53:07] <plasmoduck> it would be handy to scan my print
when I sudo instead of typing a password
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1721[10:53:13] <dutchfish> devCon, have you tried `options
ath9k_htc nohwcrypt=1` in /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k_htc.conf ?
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1723[10:53:59] <gebruiker> themill: issue is a bug on
replaced-url
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1724[10:54:28] <gebruiker> While it actually 4.8.7
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1725[10:54:32] <jelly> gebruiker: one could say the page
you're visiting is just a deliberately narrow view into the
state of "linux-grsec" source package, a view focusing on
one of its result artifacts (the linux-grsec-source-4.7 deb binary
package). The right hand side does not say "download the exact
version of the source package linux-grsec matching this binary
artifact"
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1726[10:54:33] <jelly> it just says "Download Source Package
linux-grsec" and it show the link to the version in sid
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1727[10:54:48] <dutchfish> devCon, this also needs a new update
for /boot/initrd.img-xxxxx
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1729[10:55:03] <devCon> dutchfish: no I haven' t but I
suppose for regular user it should be straightforward to connect
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1730[10:55:12] <devCon> and use it
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1732[10:55:39] <dutchfish> devCon, new firmware for nonfree isnt
and shouldnt
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1735[10:56:16] <devCon> but the TPE-N150USBL is a FSF-RYF
approved
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1737[10:56:27] <themill> gebruiker: no, the package that you are
looking for was build from the 4.7 version of the source; there are
also linux-grsec-4.8 -*packages built from the the newer source.
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1738[10:56:36] <gebruiker> jelly: you made a complicated
rationalisation of something that is simply wrongly stated
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1739[10:57:08] <gebruiker> jelly: because this is the only grsec
page this occors on
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1741[10:58:33] <dutchfish> devCon, look at at the wiki debian hw
list also take a peak on the wiki for iw, i dont believe a blob is
according to Debian policies aproved as free, but hey, i am not FSF
expert.
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1742[10:58:58] <themill> gebruiker: it's not. It's like
that for every not-yet-decrufted linux-grsec-*4.7* package.
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1744[10:59:15] <gebruiker> themill: i know that. The bug is that
the page contains the wrong information. it is not 4.7 and it is not
4.7 related packages and it is does not have 4.7 debian patches and
the package is not 201610161720
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1745[10:59:24] <gebruiker> themill: no, i jus checked
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1746[10:59:29] <dutchfish> devCon, for what it is worth, the
adaper works with latest firmware in Debian testing (checked myself)
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1747[10:59:35] <devCon>
replaced-url
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1748[10:59:38] <themill> gebruiker: check harder then, because
you are wrong.
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1749[11:00:03] <gebruiker> themill: you should check harder
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1750[11:00:09] <jelly> heh
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1752[11:00:23] <devCon> dutchfish can you provide me with
detailed instructions of what you did so I can try it myself
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1753[11:00:30] <themill> you are at a disadvantage of being wrong
cf what is in the browser window in front of me
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1754[11:00:39] <dutchfish> devCon, yes,
replaced-url
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1756[11:01:34] <dutchfish> devCon, some older kernels wont work,
i did my tests in Debian testing
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1757[11:01:38] <themill> gebruiker: as jelly said, the page is
correct. *Every* not-yet-decrufted binary package is like this on
packages.d.o; The main panel is the info about the package you are
interested in, the right margin is links to the current version. Yes
this could be clearer, no it probably can't be fixed in any
amount of time that makes it worth doing.
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1758[11:01:50] <dutchfish> devCon, or ask #debian-next (OFTC)
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1759[11:02:47] <devCon> Ok, isn't debian-tesing shipped with
the latest kernel?, I thought so. Maybe I mislead myself
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1761[11:03:32] <dutchfish> devCon, well, currently testing is at
Linux ws-151 4.8.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.8.7-1 (2016-11-13) x86_64
GNU/Linux for the 64bit amd
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1763[11:04:11] <dutchfish> devCon, i dont believe you need a
newer one for this
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1768[11:08:21] <devCon> dutchfish: Then let me check with you to
see if I followed you correctly: did you add the
'/etc/modprobe.d/ath9k_htc.conf' patch to the kernel
version 4.8.x in your debian testing installation?
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1769[11:08:33] <dutchfish> devCon, yes
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1770[11:08:42] <dutchfish> devCon, reread what i have said
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1773[11:09:31] <dutchfish> devCon, there is a change the blob got
into firmware-nonfree already for Debian testing, thats easy to find
out
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1774[11:09:48] <dutchfish> devCon, i did my test some while ago
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1779[11:11:24] <dutchfish> devCon, otherwise
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1788[11:12:55] <gebruiker> jelly: why did you do that?
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1789[11:13:04] <devCon> dutchfish, OK I will try the solutions
provided and report back the results, thank you very much
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1790[11:13:18] <dutchfish> devCon, yw
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1793[11:15:57] <jelly> gebruiker: wasn't me, but you annoyed
the other op apparently
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1805[11:21:58] <gebruiker> jelly: the last sentence of what
themill wrote was all i was trying to say and i wanted to bug report
it and see if I could do anything to help out seeming that might be
problem I could help with my limited skillset
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1810[11:26:09] <azarus> Hey guys. I got a problem that when i
boot my laptop, it takes 2 mins 40 secs to boot, since when i boot,
it says "A start job is running for: waiting for network to be
configured" I've looked some things up on the internet,
but I didn't really get any smarter from that.
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1821[11:28:05] <dutchfish> azarus, have you delved into `dmesg` ?
Does that give any clou?
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1828[11:29:53] <azarus> dutchfish: I'll paste my dmesg, just
a sec.
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1832[11:31:32] <azarus> dutchfish:
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1835[11:32:30] <azarus> dutchfish: probably something with wifi,
right?
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1840[11:33:22] <dutchfish> azarus, more likely the acpi system,
maybe for the adapter parts like wifi
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1841[11:33:36] <dutchfish> azarus, hybrid sleep
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1846[11:33:53] <azarus> But this happens even if i just cold boot
my machine.
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1849[11:35:05] <dutchfish> azarus, yes, you could try (as a test)
with a higher C state setting in your bios, it will discharge
batteries faster, but it will give a clue if acpi is to blame
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1851[11:35:33] <azarus> dutchfish: So i should try to disable
some lower c states, got it.
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1854[11:35:43] <dutchfish> azarus, just as a test
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1855[11:35:56] <azarus> dutchfish: Sure, i'll be right back.
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1863[11:41:13] <azarus> dutchfish: No luck with that, I disabled
all powersaving methods in the UEFI, but it took just as long.
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1873[11:45:04] <dutchfish> azarus, maybe then look what settings
are available for the adapter, if you run any services that depend
on a network and wifi is your only way, it might stall on that.
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1878[11:47:01] <azarus> ?dutchfish: I could try to disable
NetworkManager
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1882[11:50:25] <azarus> dutchfish: Might it be related that my
battery monitor in i3bar isn't really working as well? It
always shows 87.59%
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1890[11:56:38] <dutchfish> azarus, if it stalls on querying that,
it might
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1905[12:02:49] <NBA> Hello !
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1910[12:04:43] <NBA> i have a shop adminstation , and i have
username & password login. i want business if you care
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1911[12:05:16] <bazhang> NBA, are you advertising your business
here
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1915[12:06:39] <NBA> Not
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1918[12:07:08] <bazhang> whats the debian support issue then NBA
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1921[12:08:14] <NBA> i just i am looking for a partnership to
hack CCV
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1922[12:09:05] <bazhang> nba hack what?
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1923[12:09:34] <NBA> Hacking CCV
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1924[12:09:52] <bazhang> what is ccv
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1929[12:10:05] <themill> NBA: wrong channel]
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1930[12:10:06] <bazhang> and why do you feel the need to hack it
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1932[12:10:15] <bazhang> heh ouch
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1933[12:10:24] <bazhang> sorry themill
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1939[12:12:11] <azarus> dutchfish: I'm back, family called.
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1942[12:12:25] <dutchfish> azarus, if it stalls on querying that,
it might
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1944[12:12:57] <dutchfish> azarus, its hard to find the culprit,
it needs an extensive study of all the logs
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1945[12:13:20] <azarus> dutchfish: Would reinstalling the drivers
help?
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1947[12:13:34] <dutchfish> azarus, but networkmonitor, acpi and
energysavings are the most likely ones
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1948[12:13:55] <dutchfish> azarus, reinstalling what drivers?
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1949[12:14:02] <azarus> dutchfish: So, either TLP, NetworkMonitor
or ACPI.
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1950[12:14:15] <azarus> dutchfish: most likely iwlwifi
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1951[12:14:15] <dutchfish> azarus, yes, probably.
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1952[12:14:30] <azarus> dutchfish: Okay, i'll try.
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1955[12:15:00] <dutchfish> azarus, bare i mind, that establishing
a wifi connection always takes some time, even if it all works as
expected.
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1958[12:15:23] <dutchfish> azarus, but that amount of time seams
excessive.
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1959[12:15:33] <azarus> dutchfish: I know, but it should slow
down boot.
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1964[12:15:41] <azarus> dutchfish: shouldn't*
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1965[12:16:06] <dutchfish> azarus, or manually make [wants] in
systemd and not brake the system
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1967[12:16:30] <dutchfish> azarus, for now, try to find out what
happens while studying the logs
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1978[12:19:35] <azarus> dutchfish: Might it be this:
replaced-url
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1984[12:20:42] <dutchfish> azarus, no, that seams fine to me.
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1990[12:23:54] <dutchfish> azarus, sshd needs alot of time, have
you looked at what nets it listens, do you have ipv6? if not disable
that in sshd.
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1993[12:24:22] <azarus> dutchfish: I don't have ipv6. How do
i disable it in sshd?
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1994[12:24:38] <dutchfish> azarus, in its config
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1995[12:25:17] <dutchfish> azarus, /etc/ssh/sshd_config
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1997[12:25:45] <azarus> dutchfish: AddressFamily inet # IPv4 only
// This?
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1999[12:26:32] <dutchfish> azarus, the line `#ListenAddress :: `
if you remove it, it stops listening on ipv6
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2000[12:26:52] <dutchfish> azarus, even when it is uncommented,
it does listen
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2005[12:27:53] <azarus> dutchfish: :: Is the localhost for IPv6,
right?
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2006[12:27:56] <dutchfish> azarus, obviously, you need to reboot
that service after altering the config file.
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2007[12:27:59] <dutchfish> azarus, yes
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2009[12:28:16] <dutchfish> azarus, err, no. It means all
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2010[12:28:17] <azarus> dutchfish: Okay, removed that line.
Rebooting the service.
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2011[12:28:32] <azarus> dutchfish: So all ipv6 adresses?
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2012[12:28:38] <dutchfish> azarus, yes
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2013[12:29:14] <azarus> dutchfish: I'll reboot now.
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2014[12:29:17] <dutchfish> azarus, if you cold boot the system
compare the logs
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2015[12:29:36] <azarus> dutchfish: Okay, be right back.
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2025[12:32:07] <chamow> i'm from india and would like to
contribute. i know c++, git
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2031[12:33:10] <azarus> dutchfish: No luck in setting sshd to
ipv4 only.
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2032[12:33:20] <azarus> dutchfish: Didn't help bot
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2033[12:33:22] <azarus> boot*
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2034[12:34:06] <dutchfish> azarus, do you need sshd access on
that mobile device?
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2036[12:34:35] <azarus> dutchfish: Well, i do, but i can disable
it if needed
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2041[12:35:35] <dutchfish> azarus, just as a test, to find out if
network availability for that service slows down your boot.
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2045[12:36:01] <azarus> dutchfish: So i'll disable sshd in
systemd and reboot.
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2047[12:36:11] <dutchfish> azarus, basically yes
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2063[12:40:34] <azarus> dutchfish: Disabling sshd did nothing
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2064[12:41:09] <azarus> dutchfish: Should i disable
NetworkManager?
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2065[12:41:38] <dutchfish> azarus, ok. Well, i am a bit stumbling
in the dark as well.
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2070[12:42:24] <azarus> dutchfish: Screw it. I'll try to
disable networkmanager.
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2072[12:42:58] <dutchfish> azarus, ok, but only for the disable
part ;)
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2073[12:43:10] <azarus> dutchfish: sure.
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2101[12:50:00] <azarus> dutchfish: My battery monitor seems to
work again. But disabling NetworkManager entirely didn't help
boot times.
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2102[12:50:14] <azarus> dutchfish: Weirdly though, it still
connect to wifi automatically
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2105[12:50:48] <dutchfish> azarus, i am running out of clues,
sorry.
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2108[12:51:43] <dutchfish> azarus, this might be a driver issue
in regards to acpi, dmesg stated this.
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2109[12:51:45] <azarus> dutchfish: Might just reinstall the whole
system. Don't have anyting worthful on here.
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2110[12:52:08] <dutchfish> azarus, its worth a try, also consider
Debian testing.
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2114[12:52:29] <azarus> dutchfish: I'm on stretch
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2115[12:52:38] <dutchfish> azarus, ah, ok.
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2117[12:52:42] <azarus> dutchfish: With kernel 4.8.0
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2125[12:56:12] <azarus> dutchfish: I'll reinstall debian
stretch.
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2127[12:56:20] <dutchfish> azarus, gl
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2128[12:56:27] <azarus> dutchfish: Thanks.
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2156[13:06:38] <koris> how does one kill a process when even
"# kill -9 <pid>" doesn't work?
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2159[13:07:18] <han-solo> what did you try to kill?
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2162[13:07:58] <koris> a program called qjoypad
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2167[13:08:52] <han-solo> are you sure, it was thr right pid?
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2169[13:09:14] <han-solo> pkill qjoypad
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2175[13:10:56] <koris> well, it actually is my friend who is
having this problem, this is what they said:
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2176[13:10:56] <koris> >I ran it as "qjoypad
--notray" and, as has happened a few times before, it failed to
show the window and refuses to respond to Ctrl-C
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2177[13:10:57] <koris> >I did "pgrep qjoypad" and
got the PID after doing "pkill qjoypad" silently failed
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2178[13:10:57] <koris> >then I did "kill -9
<PID>" as user, then as root, and both silently failed -
it is still running under the same PID
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2196[13:18:15] <menace> Hi, i have a logitech headset h800, which
works in vlc, if i set it to use the headset. but i'm not sure
how to set the headset as default output and not my soundboxes.. the
a2dp-debian-wiki entry did not help.. any idea how to do this? or
the right keywords for google?
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2199[13:20:46] <menace> ah, i disabled the other possibilities
for audio output in the preferences.. now it routes to the headset
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2221[13:32:04] <menace> lol, now i cannot switch back? :D
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2230[13:39:27] <crocodilebilly> fuck you you crooked nigger dick
suckin sons of bitches...you need to pay the royalties you fuckin
owe and you need to return my wife and children you thieving
murdering bastards
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2266[14:02:02] <user____> any possibility to boot decompressed
"Gzip archive" of "initrd.img" instead of
compressed "Gzip archive" to avoid decompressing Gzip at
every boot?
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2270[14:03:45] <teclo-> user____: well it's about 20 years
the Linux kernel is compressed
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2271[14:04:07] <teclo-> around 1996 it took perhaps about two
seconds to uncompress it at boot time
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2273[14:04:24] <teclo-> nowadays it's so fast you can't
even time it
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2274[14:04:38] <teclo-> so I'd say it's
"useless" to try to have an uncompressed kernel
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2275[14:04:51] <teclo-> but, yes, it can be done
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2277[14:04:58] <Ke> user____: linux boots completely fine without
compression
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2279[14:05:18] <Ke> just provide image that has not been
compressed
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2286[14:09:02] <SRK143> Hello Everyone, I am injecting iframe but
its not redirecting any suggestion
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2287[14:09:21] <SRK143> <iframe SRC="replaced-url
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2289[14:09:21] <SRK143> +
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2290[14:09:43] <SRK143> I am stuck any suggestion would be
appreciated
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2294[14:12:17] <nutshell> !topic
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2312[14:25:57] <SRK143> web application attack
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2356[14:44:45] <nutshell> channel limit??
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2359[14:48:28] <BLUG_Fred> hi! I was wondering how i could
install and configure a debian box with only a proprietary wifi
firmware card. Spent the day with no success
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2366[14:51:10] <dvs> !firmware iso
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2367[14:51:10] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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2368[14:51:11] <menace> BLUG_Fred: how about
replaced-url
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2369[14:51:15] <menace> ah
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2371[14:51:27] <dvs> nope ;-)
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2373[14:51:55] <BLUG_Fred> menace: tried that but it seems the
install goes for the build-in eth0, and disabling it doesn't
make it try to use the wifi card
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2376[14:53:16] <BLUG_Fred> menace: it just says there is no
ethernet card and try to have me pick one from a list.. which
doesn't work
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2387[14:58:10] <irreleph4nt> Hi all. I compiled a custom kernel,
installed it and updated intel GuC and DMC ... now my system - even
the stock kernel - won't boot
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2390[14:58:32] <irreleph4nt> I am suspecting it's the intel
GuC and DMC install script, because it updated my initramfs
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2391[14:59:02] <irreleph4nt> How do I debug/solve this though
when I can't get past my grub screen? Monitor goes blank right
after
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2408[15:10:11] <mernilio> Hi all! :-) iM Sure the NYPD is here as
well so i can be pretty safe!
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2411[15:11:47] <mernilio> Hows the drugs here in debian,`=?
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2414[15:12:26] <nutshell> need something
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2416[15:12:40] <mernilio> yes
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2417[15:12:57] <mernilio> white china .. extra potent meth
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2421[15:14:12] <nutshell> sry sweden is too far away :)
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2422[15:14:31] <mernilio> nutshell: i know, take care!
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2428[15:16:10] <mernilio> Being in the hood the blacks seemed to
accetpt me into their own inhabitat
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2432[15:17:14] <mernilio> That was not a good thing to say. I
appology!
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2434[15:17:39] <mernilio> They have a cue card guy here
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2435[15:18:18] <mernilio> There!
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2437[15:19:08] <mernilio> nutshell, keep it up, and hug your mum
everdyday!
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2461[15:33:50] <padrum> guys, I installed debian op my Dell
Precision m6700, and updated my graphical drivers (ATI hd 7800
series) but i still get screen tears allover te place
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2464[15:35:48] <padrum> any suggestions how to fix this issue?
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2465[15:35:59] <dvs> !tell padrum about non-free sources
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2474[15:41:21] <padrum> Okat I tought i had all the driver..
apperantly i Didn't thanks!
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2489[15:49:39] <koen_> I am getting this error ERROR 1045
(28000): Access denied for user
'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
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2490[15:49:42] <koen_> how to bypass this
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2491[15:50:16] <Ke> koen_: what are you trying to do?
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2492[15:50:51] <koen_> run these scripts mysql -e "CREATE
DATABASE drupal_db;" mysql -e "GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON
drupal_db.* TO drupaluser@'localhost' identified by
'drupalpass';" mysql -e "FLUSH PRIVILEGES;"
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2494[15:51:52] <Ke> ack
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2498[15:54:46] <koen_> ack?
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2500[15:55:36] <Ke> meaning that I have received the reply and
stopped sending more data, I have no solution to this problem
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2503[15:57:32] <sillyslux> koen_, try mysql -p -e
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2504[15:57:53] <koen_> u gotta specify password sillyslux
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2506[15:58:23] <sillyslux> hm i thought it would ask you for the
password then
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2507[15:59:57] <sillyslux> and it does...
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2508[16:00:00] <koen_> i had did some tweaking with .cnf file
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2509[16:00:09] <koen_> and now the authentication is bypassed
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2510[16:00:19] <sillyslux> so if your installation is
pwd-protected you have to use -p
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2511[16:00:28] <sillyslux> oh
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2515[16:01:05] <sillyslux> well then you propably have to do more
tweaking
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2555[16:14:15] <azarus> dutchfish: Thanks. Reinstalling solved
every problem. Just need to reset the bios values now.
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2614[16:38:00] <the_sniff> I can't seem to find out why my
rsnapshot is skipping a directory i told it to back up. tried
increasing the log level to 5, nothing useful in it
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2629[16:41:38] <azarus> I want to use apt-transport-https, but
how do i find mirrors that support it?
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2634[16:43:45] <hamdjan> can you do an apache2 upgrade on a live
production system?
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2638[16:45:18] <Texou> the_sniff: a regular dir?
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2642[16:47:00] <the_sniff> Texou, yes. running the command from
rsnapshot -t daily works (but weirdly outpout at ~1gpbs)
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2644[16:47:47] <Texou> hmmm
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2647[16:48:28] <the_sniff> Texou its still copying files but i
see no change in the dir. thats so od
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2648[16:48:30] <the_sniff> odd
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2651[16:49:07] <Texou> the_sniff: is it the only dir, or are you
copying other dirs successfully?
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2655[16:49:47] <deepbluv> if i had to install an i386
library,should all dependencies to install be i386?
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2657[16:50:05] <Texou> deepbluv: I think so
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2658[16:50:29] <deepbluv> Texou: ah.ok,thanx a lot
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2659[16:50:38] <the_sniff> Texou other ones are copied succefully
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2660[16:50:53] <the_sniff> how can i see the open file handles of
a proc? cat /proc/pid/...
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2661[16:50:59] <Texou> the_sniff: and if you just rsnapshot the
skipped dir?
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2663[16:52:07] <the_sniff> Texou with out the cron? and as
opposed to just rsync it?
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2669[16:53:02] <Texou> the_sniff: yes
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2672[16:53:39] <the_sniff> does it make sense that a 7.7GB file
at 800mbps would take that long to copy?
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2674[16:53:45] <the_sniff> Texou ill try it
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2675[16:54:43] <the_sniff> Texou wierd thing is it appears that
some file is stuck at the read process
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2677[16:55:00] <Texou> ah
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2678[16:55:10] <Texou> the_sniff: seems your explanation :)
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2679[16:55:32] <the_sniff> why would something like that happen?
its 7.7GB and older, exact, backups are copied
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2684[16:56:49] <the_sniff> not it oddely done lol seems
we're back to the rsnapshot issue
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2692[16:58:30] <Texou> the_sniff: have you tried rsync, simply?
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2697[17:00:00] <FireZoneBlitz> Hi - when creating an install USB
stick and I need the extra firmware, do I just unzip the
firmware.tar.gz to /firmware on the USB stick?
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2698[17:00:12] <the_sniff> Texou yes the rsync from the rsnapshot
works, but it takes for ever for some reason
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2702[17:01:51] <the_sniff> could it ignore dirs that are too big?
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2719[17:08:57] <petn-randall> FireZoneBlitz: That works, but an
easier way it to use the firmware installer
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2720[17:08:59] <petn-randall> !firmware installer
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2721[17:09:00] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional
<firmware>, by including it within installation media or
supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See
replaced-url
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2722[17:09:03] <petn-randall> FireZoneBlitz: ^^^
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2723[17:09:21] <FireZoneBlitz> awesome thx
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2724[17:09:45] <mibert> hi all, quick question: best way to get
gcc 6 on jessie? it's not in the backports, so just get it from
testing repo; good idea? thanks a lot!
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2726[17:10:15] <petn-randall> mibert: What do you need gcc 6 for?
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2727[17:10:28] <mibert> compiling :|
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2728[17:10:37] <petn-randall> mibert: Not that you don't
have a valid reason, but the approaches might differ depending on
the reason.
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2730[17:10:49] <mibert> one time compile thing
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2731[17:10:54] <petn-randall> mibert: Compiling what, and for
what target system?
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2732[17:11:08] <mibert> for the jessie system
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2735[17:11:15] <mibert> stand alone application
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2737[17:11:53] <mibert> i thought about compiling it on testing,
but i had doubts the binary would just work, cause of different
libs?!
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2741[17:12:28] <mibert> work on jessie that is of course
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2742[17:12:31] <petn-randall> mibert: I'd make a chroot or a
VM with jessie + gcc 6, that way any breakage will only affect it
and not your whole system.
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2743[17:12:54] <mibert> ok, so basically getting gcc6 from the
testing repo could be bad, right?
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2745[17:13:39] <petn-randall> mibert: Mixing repos is generalliy
a bad idea, I especially wouldn't do it to your OS you depend
on.
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2747[17:14:00] <petn-randall> mibert: Do it in a chroot, if you
screw up you can just delete it and start over.
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2750[17:14:23] <mibert> :) ok, i'll go with vm jessie+gcc6.
thank you very much for your help!
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2787[17:27:23] <deepbluv> i'm on amd64 jessie and i need to
install a i368 library.Should I install all dependencies i368 as
well?
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2790[17:28:58] <KaliLinuxGR> deepbluv: dpkg --add-architecture
i386
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2795[17:29:39] <dpkg> from memory, multiarch howto is
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2812[17:35:31] <deepbluv> missmbob: i;m not connectind but i
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configure and lock buttons? Between the configure and lock buttons:
replaced-url
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2818[17:36:56] <missmbob> deepbluv: it doesnt matter how you
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2819[17:37:07] <missmbob> !tell deepbluv about gdebi
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2826[17:39:07] <asarch> Sorry, wrong button
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2827[17:39:16] <thejoker> hey
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2828[17:39:38] <irreleph4nt> Hi all. I have this issue where all
of a sudden I can't boot without nomodeset on intel i915. If I
do not add nomodeset my monitor blanks out when the initramfs is
loaded and I have to hard-shutdown the system
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2829[17:39:51] <irreleph4nt> How do I fix this?
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2851[17:55:09] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: Did you recently update
the system with a new kernel?
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2852[17:55:18] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: Which release?
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2861[17:58:24] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins: I actually compiled one
for the Microsoft Surface Pro4 with integrated touc support ...
lemme get you that link
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2862[17:58:39] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins:
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2863[17:58:51] <irreleph4nt> These are the instructions I
followed ^
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2868[18:00:35] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: Trying a stock kernel
would be the first step in troubleshooting.
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2869[18:00:39] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: Which release?
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2870[18:00:55] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins: I am on jessie
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2871[18:01:07] <irreleph4nt> issue is: the stock kernel also does
not boot anymore
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2872[18:01:28] <irreleph4nt> all I did was run the install script
for the updated intel GuC and DMC binaries
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2873[18:01:37] <irreleph4nt> which updated the initramfs
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2880[18:05:24] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: So at the very least you
need to go back to the previous initramfs.
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2882[18:05:34] <jhutchins> ,kernels
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2883[18:05:35] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid:
4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1); stretch: 4.8.0-1-686-pae (4.8.7-1);
jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.8-1~bpo8+1); jessie:
3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports:
3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy:
3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
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2885[18:05:59] <johnkeates> does debian have network packages to
use the intel and broadcom cable length and frequency test options?
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2886[18:06:13] <jhutchins> You're also on an untested
kernel, you might want to revert to 4.7 or 4.8 if the patches are
available for those.
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2892[18:08:53] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins: I am new to debian (used
to use Arch) ... how do I do that? :S
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2893[18:09:09] <irreleph4nt> If possible I'd like to revert
to something newer than 3.16
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2896[18:10:43] <jhutchins> You could try just installing 4.7 from
backports. You could try reverting the changes you made (I assume
you don't have a backup, nobody ever does).
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2897[18:11:53] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: The most obvious thing is
to reverse whatever you did that broke it.
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2904[18:14:09] <majukarma> is it correct to update a backport
with command : apt -t jessie-backport install <package_name> ?
or is there a better way to perform it?
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2910[18:18:03] <jhutchins> majukarma: Backports should update
automatically once they've been installed. I think the syntax
is ..."install -t jessie-backports"...
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2911[18:18:51] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: I didn't see
anything about DMC binaries, the intel binary is just a symlink so
easy to remove, then rebuind the initramfs.
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2921[18:22:44] <majukarma> yes, i made a miss it's
jessie-backports... but, I've installed LibreOffice backports a
few month ago, and today an update was detected... I was expecting
it to update automatically as usual but it doesn't. So I dig
for a solution on debian forums and wiki... I apply the command
(with a 's') and it seems to work... But I'm not sure
it was the correct way...
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2923[18:23:41] <majukarma> does something is going wrong with my
config?
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2929[18:25:08] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins: happen to have to command
handy to update all initramfs at the same time?
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2934[18:26:22] <mernilio> For you debian users. One thing under
god. Do you think Jesus will resurect in the US of A? Are you worth
it`?
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2936[18:26:41] <mernilio> Are you worth it?
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2937[18:26:48] <ikonia> mernilio: this is offtopic as you know
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2938[18:27:05] <mernilio> sure, im cool
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2940[18:28:00] <mernilio> Its so silent here i just wanted to
create a buzz ... ;-)
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2941[18:28:07] <ikonia> please don't
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2943[18:28:37] <mernilio> oki
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2944[18:28:51] <majukarma> Create a chan for debian-buzz ;)
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2945[18:28:52] <ikonia> thank you
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2946[18:28:54] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: Could
intel_idle.max_cstate=2 be relevant? Did htat get left out?
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2947[18:29:16] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins: I removed this from the
ekrnel boot line but it still hangs
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2948[18:29:27] <irreleph4nt> but again, how do I update the
initramfs in debian?
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2950[18:29:36] <irreleph4nt> I want to update both kernels at
once, please
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2953[18:29:54] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: I believe the current
system uses drakut to create the initramfs, I think makeinitramfs is
still valid, but you should look it up, I haven't done anything
except the default automated process in a few years.
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2954[18:30:08] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: You have a very
non-Debian system there if you've followed that page.
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2956[18:30:56] <majukarma> does somebody use libreoffice
backports on jessie ? if yes, how does apt update and upgrade works
for you? Do you need to upgrade it manually?
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2957[18:31:12] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: The docs on initramfs
should explain how to create one for more than one kernel. You can
only create one at a time.
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2958[18:31:13] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins: well, except for the
libertas firmware everything else is straight from the jessie repo
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2959[18:31:48] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins: so I'll have to find
out how to update an initramfs in debian in the first place
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2961[18:31:53] <irreleph4nt> man, I hate searching
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2963[18:32:38] <irreleph4nt> where do I specify modules I want
build into the initramfs?
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2971[18:35:26] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: You should be able to
just install the 4.7 kernel from the repos or the 4.8 from backports
and it should build the initramfs for each when you do.
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2974[18:36:20] <jhutchins> irreleph4nt: If you had the new kernel
booting though, you could just go through the steps you used to
create it originally, minus the steps that broke it.
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2976[18:37:24] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins: which would require me to
know what actually broke it
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2984[18:40:05] <irreleph4nt> This is way too enraging ... think
I'll just ditch debian and go back to arch instead
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2986[18:40:38] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins: thanks for your help,
tho. I'll try and install the ekrnel from backports and see if
it boots
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2987[18:40:52] <irreleph4nt> If it doesn't, well then too
bad, but I am done with debian
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2994[18:42:23] <arPh04> Question: What is the difference between
the freenode & OFTC #debian channels? Anything specific?
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2999[18:43:03] <johnkeates> different networks, that's all
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3000[18:43:21] <johnkeates> also, on oftc there are devel, next
and maintainer channels and those are not on freenode
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3004[18:43:53] <arPh04> That was my assumption. Thank you.
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3010[18:45:52] <irreleph4nt> jhutchins: 4.7 also does not boot.
Thanks man, but I am done with Debian
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3011[18:46:51] <arPh04> I have to say that the securing debian
manual is a bit of a pain since systemd was adopted. Any wise tips
or references to mitigate the odd migraine?
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3012[18:46:54] <mernilio> Its so crowdy here`
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3013[18:47:14] <mernilio> I must go in to blend in
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3016[18:47:21] <Richard_Cavell> mernilio: I'll give you some
space [ ]
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3017[18:47:33] <mernilio> Thanks rich!
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3018[18:48:12] <johnkeates> arPh04: use saltstack and ignore
systemd, problem solved
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3020[18:48:30] <arPh04> that is certainly one solution.
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3021[18:49:22] <mernilio> But in the name of intelligense one
must use sytem v of course!
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3023[18:50:19] <mernilio> Forget it! :-)
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3024[18:50:25] <arPh04> hahaha.. yeah.. nope.
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3025[18:50:42] <johnkeates> you can also adopt launchd or openrc
:p
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3027[18:50:48] <johnkeates> launchd works well on bsd
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3028[18:50:50] <johnkeates> and osx
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3048[18:59:04] <mernilio> You guys do woderful thing .. don
forget it!
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3052[19:00:08] <mernilio> I have to go now. Its sleeping time in
santas part of the world.
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3056[19:01:37] <mernilio> I dont wish .. i hope you can make your
spouse a merry merry ... something... :- P
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3082[19:14:30] <petn-randall> arPh04: No one's stopping you
from using plain old sysv init on jessie.
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3100[19:18:47] <loggus> hi
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3104[19:19:05] <loggus> Can logrotate also rotate multiple log
files at once?
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3113[19:20:21] <wedgie> loggus: by default it rotates many
logs... what do you mean?
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3121[19:22:11] <Brigo_> any op here?
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3123[19:22:50] <ikonia> may want to try #debian-ops
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3125[19:23:27] <Brigo_> ikonia, thaks, i will
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3127[19:24:18] <loggus> wedgie: I mean, rotate a group of log
files at the same time and then use a single postrotate command to
flush the log files
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3128[19:24:31] <loggus> wedgie: currently it would rather rotate
one by one probably - because they all got the same interval, and
then flush each time
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3129[19:24:34] <loggus> I don't think this is very efficient
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3130[19:24:45] <loggus> it is the same daemon that generates
these
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3149[19:32:41] <noqnio1> i have been using stable as my daily for
a long time, and i decided to try testing.. first boot, tracker is
taking up 100% on one core and filling up the ram
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3155[19:35:19] <zykotick9> noqnio1: for testing/sid support you
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3160[19:36:50] <noqnio1> i killed it, just came here to whine a
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3248[20:03:15] <BartQ> Do you know any milter application
(postfix), which has functionality to perform SPF authentication and
write AR header? (except spf-milter-python)
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3255[20:05:38] <likcoras> Why does selecting nothing during the
"select and install software" still end up installing ~70
more packages than it would if I just skipped that step completely?
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3261[20:07:29] <qman__> likcoras: updates
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3263[20:08:06] <likcoras> It looks like it ends up installing
task-laptop, even though I did not select anything in that stage.
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3264[20:08:06] <zykotick9> OMG, installing debian requires some
packages to be installed?!?!
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3277[20:11:58] <dutchfish> likcoras, `aptitude search ~pstandard
~prequired ~pimportant -F%p` tells you what packages they are and
needed.
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3280[20:13:01] <dutchfish> likcoras, also tasksel
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3281[20:13:07] <likcoras> Huh, alright
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3294[20:17:33] <loggus> What are the most important/useful log
files on a Debian/Linux system? :D
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3295[20:17:39] <loggus> dmesg, auth.log and syslog I guess
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3296[20:17:50] <loggus> but which are generic and on any default
system?
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3301[20:20:07] <julius> hi
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3303[20:20:54] <julius> it says here:
replaced-url
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3316[20:26:06] <arPh04> #debian on OFTC is getting clobbered
atm.. yeesh
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3326[20:29:36] <arPh04> petn-randall: it'd be kind of silly
not to get to know systemd. Whether I like it or not, it's
here.
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3327[20:29:52] <asulil> hi all
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3331[20:30:59] <asulil> can you me link of debian version I can
install easier from usb disk
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3338[20:31:40] <arPh04> any and all.. just use dd if you're
on linux or mac..
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3340[20:32:17] <asulil> I am using yumi, It doesn't work
with live cd, I wonder if it's better to user different
unetbootin or...?
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3341[20:32:41] <asulil> any cue guys?
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3343[20:32:58] <asulil> arPh04: are you with me?
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3346[20:33:45] <arPh04> in what regard?
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3356[20:35:57] <arPh04> i've had issues with unetbootin with
the odd livecd.. best use debian-8.6.0-(arch)-DVD-1.iso for starters
if you don't need live
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3359[20:37:36] <zykotick9> asulil: use cp/cat/dd (probably in
that order) would be my suggestion... for windows there is some
win32imager (or something like that)
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3361[20:37:53] <asulil> arPh04: I have one old version debian
squeeze, I wonder If it will work of not?
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3363[20:38:25] <asulil> Imean debian squeeze on cd
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3364[20:38:26] <zykotick9> asulil: also not, debian live-stuff
does NOT support UEFI systems!
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3365[20:38:43] <arPh04> ^ that
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3367[20:38:51] <zykotick9> asulil: squeeze... really... i
wouldn't bother, ymmv.
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3372[20:39:34] <asulil> zykotick9: thanks for the information. No
my machine uses bios system
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3380[20:42:26] <asulil> arPh04: are you using the right version
as a server (debian-8.6.0-(arch)-DVD-1.iso)?
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3385[20:43:54] * zykotick9 thinks the only "sane" debian
install media is netinst, using the text install... but... others
have different opinions/results.
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3387[20:43:56] <arPh04> I should clarify.. where (arch) is, chose
the correct architecture i386, amd64, etc
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3388[20:44:17] <ledufakademy> hello, petite question : comment
savoir si on passe par un serveur proxy (de notre FAI) ? dans un
proxy transparent ?
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3389[20:44:23] <gry> zykotick9, :-) many people use a live cd to
test their hardware, though (netinst doesn't let you do that
iirc)
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3390[20:44:47] <asulil> does anyone if debian squeese still
stable and avialble of not? thanks
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3393[20:44:55] <missmbob> !fr
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3394[20:44:55] <dpkg> Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez
rejoindre le canal #debianfr. Francophone users: for help in french,
please go to #debianfr.
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3395[20:44:55] <zykotick9> gry: oh, i understanding using live
for testing/rescue... for install... NO WAY
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3396[20:45:08] <gry> zykotick9, ya
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3399[20:45:25] <arPh04> I prefer DVD-1 simply because I
don't want to just jack a fresh system onto the interweb before
a good amount of hardening.
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3400[20:45:45] <zykotick9> asulil: squeeze might have some LTS
support still going (i'm not sure), but the regular repos are
all down at this point...
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3406[20:46:57] <lilibox> hi
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3407[20:47:18] <asulil> zykotick9: thanks for the information. o
for server you woul not recommand it right?
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3408[20:47:23] <missmbob> zykotick9 asulil: there's no LTS
for squeeze
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3412[20:48:03] <lilibox> i am still fighting with my RAID1, now i
am trying to find solution how to get grub on GPT disk
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3413[20:48:10] <zykotick9> asulil: don't install squeeze.
get the netinst for something supported. missmbob thanks.
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3414[20:48:56] <zykotick9> asulil: ^ or the dvd1 (or cd1) if you
want a bigger initial download...
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3415[20:49:10] <arPh04> ^ that's the ticket
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3416[20:49:42] <lilibox> i had 2 TB disks , MBR and one partition
for md0 raid1, i degraded this array and connected new 4TB disk, i
used gdisk to change new 4TB disk as GPT and crerated one partition
which was added to previosly degraded md0 array
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