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0 [00:00:26] <unborn> towo`: I know.. right now I have driver
from dell but they had write driver only for ubuntu 10.10 ( no
matter I said that I am using debian which != ubutnu, they just said
for debian based systems please use this blablabla which I am not
going to)
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24 [00:07:48] <edju> I cannot send mail from kmail. Error msg
says that the server does not accept the "plain"
authentication. But that "plain" is what's received
from the "auto detect" method. I tried reinstalling kmail,
but that didn't help. Must I configure exim4? Iis exim4
relevant here? If so, then off I go yo search.
25 [00:07:59] <awal1> missmbob: are you using so arc-theme?
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28 [00:09:21] <missmbob> arc-dark to be specific
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30 [00:09:34] <missmbob> which is in the arc-theme package, yeah
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33 [00:11:14] <awal1> after you suggested it a few days ago I
tried arc-dark yeah and I like it. but with dark theme there is
always a problem with input and text fields (unreadable) in several
websites in firefox . How you fixed that?
34 [00:11:36] <missmbob> awal1: i dont use firefox so i never
noticed
35 [00:11:49] <awal1> I found this but I wonder if there is
another solution
36 [00:11:56] <awal1>
replaced-url
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38 [00:12:17] <missmbob> awal1: that sounds awfully annoying.
time to switch to vivaldi :P
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40 [00:13:11] <awal1> missmbob: hmmm, I dont use 3d party pkg
not available in debian repos, but I may try it. I'll try it in
my VM, first
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43 [00:13:42] <awal1> well, arc-dark isn't applied for
chromium, even if choosing "use gtk theme· in settings
44 [00:13:45] <missmbob> awal1: it comes with a great dark
theme, called, uh, "dark" :P
45 [00:14:12] <missmbob> awal1: yeah i dont use chromium either
46 [00:14:36] <awal1> missmbob, yeah, screeshots of vivaldi
looks fine.
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48 [00:15:48] <awal1> arc-dark works perfectly for all apps ,
but chromium wont apply it. firefox does but there is an
"eternal" issue with input and text fields :(
49 [00:16:34] <missmbob> awal1: vivaldi with its built-in dark
theme plus this extension is heaven
replaced-url
50 [00:16:40] <CuteMeOwnThroat> edju, what server are you trying
to connect to?
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53 [00:17:31] <ryan-c> anyone know what debian-installer is
doing when it says "Preparing linux-image...."?
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57 [00:18:23] <awal1> missmbob: interesting , yeah. But firefox
have always been and is my main web browser :P
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59 [00:18:33] <ryan-c> It's been hung there for like half
an hour, but getting this far has taken four hours. (the device
I'm installing to has *very* awful IO performance)
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63 [00:20:13] <awal1> i tend to not like "work around"
for solve issues in X pkg, so I guess I'll use arc-dark for all
my apps, except firefox :(
64 [00:20:17] <edju> CuteMeOwnThroat, ATT, but don't know
which one - there are several outbound .mail servers.
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69 [00:21:16] <edju> CuteMeOwnThroat, Never mind - installed
claws-mail, and no problem.
70 [00:21:40] <CuteMeOwnThroat> ah, good
71 [00:22:03] <CuteMeOwnThroat> I never used kmail…
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73 [00:23:28] <CuteMeOwnThroat> hm, and I found claws email
pretty bad for my usage
74 [00:23:35] <CuteMeOwnThroat> luckily can't remember why
exactly
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79 [00:26:31] <unborn> towo`: actually removed all nvidia stuff
previously installed, optimus disabled and download original driver
from nvidia.com worked as charm
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88 [00:31:35] <missmbob> and you managed to fuck up your system
during future upgrades. good job
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94 [00:33:23] <unborn> I would not say that. i understand that
driver is now managed outside of package manager, but its not
something I am planning to upgrade for couple of years (propably not
for the life of this installation eg couple of years) not big deal
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96 [00:34:12] <missmbob> no, you dont understand. any little
kernel update or xorg update (security fixes, etc), x will be broken
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98 [00:34:40] <towo`> i would oracle, you come here, if there is
a mesa or xorg update, then you will cry, because x is not running
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100 [00:34:45] <missmbob> but have fun. and your system can no
longer be supported in #debian
101 [00:35:00] <towo`> missmbob, the kernel is not the problem,
since dkms is available
102 [00:35:08] <unborn> its my cloned hdd end of the day I am
testing it
103 [00:35:21] <ryan-c> yay, it got past preparing kernel
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117 [00:39:04] <haps_> why is the linux kernel so large
118 [00:39:25] <mtn> haps_: because it has lots of stuff in it
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120 [00:39:49] <missmbob> where do you think the elves live?
121 [00:40:13] <haps_> mtn: does it have tons and tons of drivers
and things, so that no matter what hardware it encounters in can
work?
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123 [00:40:23] <mtn> haps_: yes
124 [00:40:25] <mtn> many tons
125 [00:41:18] <haps_> so they compress the kernel to have it fit
in memory when its installing but wont even the best compression
soon not be enough? what happens when there are simply too many
things inside?
126 [00:42:15] <missmbob> what you're saying doesn't
make any sense
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129 [00:43:09] * mtn didn't know the kernel was very large and
very heavy :P
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132 [00:44:08] <haps_> wooops
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136 [00:45:01] <mtn> indeed
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145 [00:48:43] <missmbob> i just recently bothered to change
initramfs to dep :P i wonder what the hell "too big" means
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157 [01:01:08] <CuteMeOwnThroat> means your toaster has problems
running it
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159 [01:01:37] <missmbob> hell we landed on the moon with toaster
power. that's more than enough
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161 [01:05:29] <missmbob> CuteMeOwnThroat: i passed out. did tha
kayla person ever figure out the tls problem?
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163 [01:05:33] <missmbob> damn
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216 [01:40:42] <moon2> dont burn israel
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224 [01:45:25] <moon2> shalom
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234 [01:50:02] <moon2> is there a sysconfig after ufw?
235 [01:50:12] <moon2> lol
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245 [01:55:09] <moon2>
replaced-url
246 [01:55:43] <moon2> nato otan
247 [01:55:45] <awal1> ops! moon2 trolling
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249 [01:55:56] <awal1> !ops moon2 trolling
250 [01:55:57] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: awal1 complains
about: moon2 trolling
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289 [02:19:04] <Sloyment> Hi, I really need GTK1. Is there an
easy way to install Debian 4.0 and chroot into it?
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302 [02:24:07] <asulil> hi all
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304 [02:24:19] <Texou> GTK1??? :) oh...
305 [02:24:28] <asulil> does anyone here who is familiar with
testdisk ?
306 [02:24:36] <Texou> chroot is always possible I guess
307 [02:25:43] <Sloyment> Yes, but can I do a network
installation, or do I have to download all DVD images?
308 [02:26:28] <awal1> asulil, what's your exact question?
309 [02:27:19] <Texou> Sloyment: not used to do chroot but I
guess net install is enough
310 [02:27:33] <Texou> also xou can install with debootstrap I
think
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312 [02:28:46] <missmbob> Sloyment: no you cant do net install.
none of the mirrors have the packages available
313 [02:29:02] <Texou> oops
314 [02:29:09] <missmbob> Sloyment: download the cd iso or use
jidgo to make a dvd
315 [02:29:12] <missmbob> jigdo*
316 [02:29:29] <missmbob>
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317 [02:30:40] <Hello71> what do you mean "none of the
mirrors have the packages available", doesn't it just use
apt
318 [02:30:58] <missmbob> they're archived
319 [02:31:17] <Texou> oh indeed!
320 [02:31:22] <Texou> I had not thought of it
321 [02:31:41] <Texou> GTK1 may be 20 years
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332 [02:34:26] <asulil> awal1: I deleted by error 1 primary
partition where I installed debian + 2 extented partitions. I tried
with testdisk but it doesn't work. So I wonder how to recover 3
partitions included primary partition at the same time? . Should I
began with the primary hda3 first and do same operation for the 2
extended partition hda8+hda9?
333 [02:34:54] <somiaj> Sloyment: there isn't a gtk2-3
alternative? You might be able to install a local version of gtk1.
334 [02:35:23] <Hello71> oh, I didn't see that part.
335 [02:36:00] <Hello71> chroot is probably easier
336 [02:36:10] <somiaj> Sloyment: could you do this in a vm, have
you seen if you can just debootstrap it from archive.debian.org
(unsure how far back they keep binaries around)
337 [02:36:22] <asulil> awal1: does that make sense for you?
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340 [02:36:29] <Hello71> how are you going to use jigdo if they
aren't
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343 [02:36:44] <Texou> Hello71: specifying archive URL
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354 [02:38:07] <awal1> asulil, look at photorec utility for
start.
355 [02:38:09] <Texou> all the more with gcc upgrades
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358 [02:38:16] <awal1> how you deleted them?
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361 [02:40:14] <Hello71> Texou: so... how is that different with
debootstrap
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363 [02:40:42] <Texou> Hello71: it isn't. It's
different from net install however.
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365 [02:41:03] <Texou> Hello71: and it's less long as you
specify iso archive url
366 [02:41:09] <Texou> not repo to install
367 [02:41:12] <awal1> asulil, photorec is easy to use, if your
goal is to recover files and some data, just check the manual; but
i'm not really familiar with the phorensic side of testdisk it
self
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369 [02:41:35] <Hello71> Texou: uh.. but then you have to
actually install an ISO
370 [02:41:46] <Texou> yep
371 [02:41:56] <Texou> but less impossible than net
372 [02:42:48] <Hello71> uh... I mean, you could also manually
download the debs, unar, untar, but why make it harder
373 [02:43:16] <Texou> probably not to handle dependencies and
order of installed packages
374 [02:43:44] <awal1> asulil, if you have formated those
partitions, it will be a bit hard to recover, and you need an
external drive where to recover, bcuz photorec will recover it all,
if possible, including stuff installed before your debian
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377 [02:44:55] <awal1> but sometimes jus not possible to recover
at all bcuz of successive formatting
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383 [02:47:04] <awal1> i meant an external drive with a big size
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392 [02:52:36] <Hello71> "successive formatting"
doesn't overwrite more data than doing it once
393 [02:54:03] <mingdao> does anyone know how to add rxvt-unicode
in Tails? can you install software once booted?
394 [02:55:01] <Hello71> !deriv
395 [02:55:02] <Scourje> Yes
396 [02:55:04] <Hello71> !derivatives
397 [02:55:04] <dpkg> well, derivatives is <Knoppix>,
<Ubuntu>, <Libranet>, <Corel>/<Xandros>,
<Stormix>, <Progeny>, <Linspire>,
<DamnSmallLinux>, <Kurumin>, <Agnula>,
<Xebian> and many others, or see
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398 [02:55:08] * Hello71 grumbles
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400 [02:55:35] <Hello71> !based on debian
401 [02:55:35] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
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404 [02:56:38] <awal1> Hello71, not always true. sometimes it
depends on the number and intensity of the "passes", i
dont know it's called in english
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407 [02:59:28] <missmbob> arent you canadian? :P
408 [03:00:00] <awal1> :) yeah, but non english spoken
409 [03:00:43] <missmbob> ...think you know someone
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418 [03:08:11] <asulil> awal1: ok, I never use photorec either.
I'll take a look. anyway thank you
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420 [03:09:19] <awal1> asulil: photorec is a testdisk utility,
included in testdisk yet
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439 [03:15:11] <patterson> More thaan oe pass is just peculiar
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441 [03:16:06] <Hello71> unless you're taking the disk
apart, the "number of passes" has no difference
442 [03:16:09] <patterson> dban
443 [03:16:11] <Hello71> and idfk what "intensity of
pass" means
444 [03:16:20] <patterson> Nuttin honey
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446 [03:16:52] <mueddib> hello all
447 [03:16:59] <mueddib> my debian is jessie
448 [03:17:18] <mueddib> but I don't understand, I run
apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade
449 [03:17:36] <mueddib> this kernel version 3.16.0*4
450 [03:17:48] <mueddib> dirty cow exploit is work
451 [03:17:54] <mueddib> what can I do?
452 [03:17:59] <Hello71> did you reboot
453 [03:18:04] <mueddib> I'm reboot
454 [03:18:12] <mueddib> I check linux-image
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456 [03:18:22] <Hello71> uname -a
457 [03:18:23] <mueddib> apt-cache search linux-image-*
458 [03:18:33] <mueddib> only 3.16.0
459 [03:18:46] <missmbob> that is the updated kernel.
there's nothing to do
460 [03:18:56] <mueddib> Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
3.16.36-1+deb8u2 (2016-10-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
461 [03:19:25] <Texou> maybe try backports?
462 [03:19:37] <mueddib> I tested and dirty cow work :(
463 [03:19:51] <Texou> are you sure it's fixed upstream?
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465 [03:19:59] <mueddib> yes
466 [03:20:05] <Texou> what release?
467 [03:20:10] <mueddib> jessie
468 [03:20:19] <Texou> no, what release fixes the bug?
469 [03:20:44] <Texou> what kernel release is expected not to
have the security bug?
470 [03:21:05] <mueddib> hm I don't now
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472 [03:21:19] <Texou> hmm
473 [03:21:44] <Texou> how do you know the problem is fixed
upstream?
474 [03:22:08] <awal1> Hello71, it means nuttin honey, as
patterson said ;)
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476 [03:22:20] <awal1> voll-damm time , here :P
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478 [03:22:34] <missmbob> dirty cow is fixed in that kernel. how
many times do i have to say it before you actually listen?
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479 [03:22:45] <missmbob> see? u2 has it "fixed"
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482 [03:23:25] <mueddib>
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483 [03:23:39] <Texou> mueddib: are you sure your security repos
are active?
484 [03:23:46] <missmbob> jesus
485 [03:24:10] <mueddib> yes Texou, I install dirtycow code and I
use gcc code.c -o code
486 [03:24:13] <mueddib> and I tested
487 [03:24:24] <mueddib> so
488 [03:24:39] <mueddib> jessie 3.16.36-1+deb8u1 vulnerable
489 [03:24:49] <missmbob> u1 is, yes. u2 is not
490 [03:24:58] <mueddib> what is the command install to
3.16.36-1+deb8u2 ?
491 [03:24:59] <missmbob> you said you had 3.16.36-1+deb8u2
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493 [03:25:10] <Texou> mueddib: here I've deb
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494 [03:25:12] <missmbob> this cant be for real
495 [03:25:21] <Texou> I guess you can replace stretch with
jessie
496 [03:25:24] <missmbob> Texou: security with
"stretch" does nothing
497 [03:25:32] <missmbob> it's the blind helping the blind.
498 [03:25:38] <mueddib> hmm,
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503 [03:25:48] <mueddib> Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
3.16.36-1+deb8u2 (2016-10-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
504 [03:25:54] <mueddib> I use deb8u2
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506 [03:26:00] <mueddib> but dirtycow working?
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508 [03:26:01] <mueddib> :)
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510 [03:26:18] <Texou> mueddib: try adding the line above for
jessie I think
511 [03:26:36] <Texou> missmbob: a b;ind can help a blind you
know :)
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513 [03:26:49] <Texou> missmbob: if he knows the way or the
environment ^^
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515 [03:27:06] <mueddib> Texou what line? sorry, I use to bitchx
only console and I dont see top lines
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517 [03:27:16] <missmbob> you have u2* :*( you're making me
cry
518 [03:27:34] <missmbob> you use bitchx? the most hackable irc
client in the world right now? and you're telling people?
519 [03:27:36] <mueddib> missmbob yes I use u2 and dirty cow work
520 [03:27:42] <Texou> mueddib: deb
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521 [03:27:50] <ward_>
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523 [03:28:26] <mueddib> missmbob, bitchx is hackable?
524 [03:28:32] <mueddib> hehe :)
525 [03:28:48] <mueddib> Texou, did you see my sources.list?
526 [03:28:58] <missmbob> !bitchx
527 [03:28:59] <dpkg> i heard bitchx is an old and unmaintained
<IRC> client built on epic and ircII. It was abandoned by its
upstream, has known security issues, and was removed from Debian
post-Etch to resolve bug #451373. Ask me about <irssi>,
<hexchat>, <konversation>, <weechat> for
alternatives. To ignore BitchX quit messages in irssi, ask me about
<literal bitchxignore>.
528 [03:29:03] <missmbob> yes, it's quite hackable
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530 [03:29:11] <Texou> oops I missed the line
531 [03:29:30] <missmbob> and yes, i saw your sources. and you
already had security. which is why you have u2. you wouldnt have u2
without sources.list being correct
532 [03:29:52] <mueddib> missmbob, okay hack me please. I use
bitchx.
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534 [03:30:14] <missmbob> yes, i'll break the law and
channel policy because you're being stupid
535 [03:30:27] <Texou> :D
536 [03:30:30] <nano_python> This chat is real spicy tonight.
537 [03:30:51] <mueddib> missmbob, yes I have deb
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538 [03:30:53] <patterson> It's the left over Holiday bots
539 [03:31:03] <mueddib> my kernel version u2 but dirty cow work
540 [03:31:06] <mueddib> this is problem
541 [03:31:26] <mueddib> missmbob, bitchx is secure and not
hackable
542 [03:31:53] <patterson> Pretty much anythinng is givenn
ennough time ad resources
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544 [03:32:19] <missmbob> their bugs and exploits are very
public. you dont need time and resourcces
545 [03:32:29] <patterson> Oh good.
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547 [03:33:09] <mueddib> missmbob, I'm a newbie bitchx coder
and I coded and check bitchx source code.
548 [03:33:12] <mueddib> this is very secure
549 [03:33:27] <missmbob> i trust you over CVE. i do.
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560 [03:38:20] <mueddib> missmbob,
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563 [03:39:09] <missmbob> fancy. github of over 4 years ago. you
proved your point.
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565 [03:39:35] <mueddib> missmbob, I check and code localy, my
irc client is very secure.
566 [03:40:04] <mueddib> I use bitchx, mutt, emacs, gnus,
mplayer, vifm, bla, bla
567 [03:40:06] <missmbob> i know. you're a better judge than
security experts. btw you can't figure out u2 has dirty cow
fixed.
568 [03:40:11] <missmbob> but*
569 [03:40:13] <mueddib> I check all my use programs.
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571 [03:40:46] <mueddib> missmbob, I'm not secure expert but
I use u2 and u2 not fixed, are you understand?
572 [03:41:30] <mueddib> so, I very liked to use debian a
natural, not changed.
573 [03:41:37] <mueddib> I use gentoo, freebsd, bla bla.
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575 [03:42:07] <mueddib> and not problem I push last linux-next
kernel and compiled.
576 [03:42:22] <mueddib> this problem, Debian u2 default
linux-image and not fixed?
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579 [03:43:25] <mueddib> and I have a question; I use debian, I
use latest kernel, I updated my sources and I use upgrade
dist-upgrade so why run dirtycow script to my latest update debian
system?
580 [03:43:30] <mueddib> basicly questions :)
581 [03:44:03] <themill> mueddib: you've already had that
question answered a few times now.
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583 [03:44:37] <Texou> mueddib: feel free reporting a bug if you
are sure
584 [03:44:48] <mueddib> Texou, okay thanks
585 [03:44:51] <nano_python>
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586 [03:44:53] <mueddib> I report now.
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588 [03:45:02] <themill> mueddib: please don't....
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596 [03:52:50] <han-solo> plop6: sorry. It always returns 0.
Yeah, it is weird
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615 [04:04:01] <ksft> I can't connect to wifi on Debian 8.5.
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617 [04:04:21] <ksft> I have a Broadcom 4352 network hardware
thing
618 [04:05:16] <missmbob> ,i broadcom-sta-dkms
619 [04:05:17] <judd> Package broadcom-sta-dkms (non-free/kernel,
optional) in jessie/amd64: dkms source for the Broadcom STA Wireless
driver. Version: 6.30.223.248-3; Size: 2119.0k; Installed: 14108k;
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620 [04:05:28] <missmbob> that supports 4352
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622 [04:05:51] <ksft> missmbob: I have that installed
623 [04:06:00] <missmbob> try the one from jessie-backports
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626 [04:06:26] <missmbob> you have your kernel headers installed,
right?
627 [04:06:34] <ksft> I don't know
628 [04:06:35] <missmbob> if not apt-get install
linux-headers-`uname -r`
629 [04:06:42] <missmbob> you need that for dkms anything to work
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631 [04:07:06] <ksft> yes, that's installed already
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633 [04:07:30] <ksft> how do I install it from jessie-backports?
634 [04:07:37] <ksft> apt-get -t something?
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636 [04:07:52] <missmbob> -t jessie-backports *ASSUMING* you have
jessie-backports in your sources.list
637 [04:08:01] <ksft> pretty sure it's there
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639 [04:08:31] <missmbob> yeah i love being pretty sure and not
checking things
640 [04:08:38] <ksft> fine
641 [04:08:58] <ksft> deb
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642 [04:09:03] <ksft> that's it, right?
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644 [04:09:12] <missmbob> yes
645 [04:09:16] <ksft> great
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647 [04:09:34] <ksft> "Command line option 't'
[from -t] is not known."
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649 [04:09:42] <ksft> does that not work with apt-get?
650 [04:09:58] <missmbob> apt-get -t jessie-backports install foo
651 [04:10:18] <ksft> oh, hah
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653 [04:10:26] <ksft> forgot the 'install'
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656 [04:10:44] <ksft> it says it's already installed
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658 [04:11:29] <ksft> do I have to uninstall it first or
something to get it to get the jessie-backports one?
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668 [04:18:03] <awal1> ksft, you know what -t option means?
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676 [04:25:51] <ksft> awal1: it changes the source to get the
package from, right?
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678 [04:25:58] <Hello71> why not just use debootstrap in the
first place
679 [04:26:02] <ksft> specifies*
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685 [04:27:34] <awal1> kfst, yeah. -t is --target-release; it
asks apt-get to retrieve x pkg from x release, in your case
jessie-backports
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687 [04:28:29] <ksft> how do I check what source a package was
installed from?
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695 [04:33:33] <xreal> Hmm, how can I get this to work? SELECT
'A' as public.ST_Geometry; PostGIS is installed to public
schema.
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701 [04:35:02] <xreal> fixed it. I am sorry
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707 [04:39:01] <Sloyment> Where are old dists archived?
708 [04:39:46] <Sloyment> Ah, found it
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710 [04:40:01] <Sloyment>
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724 [04:54:24] <ksft> can anyone help me get wifi working?
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727 [04:54:48] <ksft> I'm on Debian 8.5, and I have a
Broadcom 4352
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729 [04:55:01] <ksft> I have broadcom-sta-dkms installed
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740 [05:00:21] <awal1> ksft, apt-cache policy pkgname is a way
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749 [05:05:34] <Sloyment> Damn ssh -X root@localhost does not
work. :-(
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752 [05:06:08] <Sloyment> How do I get my chrooted etch to
communicate with X?
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755 [05:07:31] <Sloyment> Good night everyone and thanks for all
the help
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759 [05:08:54] <missmbob> Sloyment: you should be able to just
explort DISPLAY
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761 [05:09:36] <missmbob> export*
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769 [05:12:19] <missmbob> Sloyment: schroot would make this
easier for you.
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777 [05:14:20] <Sloyment> Thank you
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795 [05:24:30] <Padawan> What is the
debian-mac-stretch-DI-alpha8-amd64-netinst.iso in testing branchs?
WHat is that mac?
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812 [05:31:19] <n4dir> Padawan: you got a link?
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814 [05:31:43] <Padawan> nevermind, i got it.
815 [05:32:23] <n4dir> and, what is it?
816 [05:33:20] <Padawan> An iso targeting macintosh machines
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818 [05:33:46] <n4dir> duh.
819 [05:34:20] <Padawan> I did not know linux can be run in macs
820 [05:34:36] <CHVNX> Linux can run *everywhere*... almost.
821 [05:34:42] <Padawan> Apple closing it's hardware and
all.
822 [05:35:02] <CHVNX> macbook pros are made for FreeBSD, we all
know it.
823 [05:35:05] <CHVNX> You know it. I know it.
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826 [05:36:48] <n4dir> It's even better: LInux (and BSD)
also run on the old ppc Macs which as far i know don't get any
more updates from Apple.
827 [05:36:50] <asulil> does anyone know if any channel for
testdisk or photorec exist?
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834 [05:39:33] <Padawan> Does anybody here run the testing
branch?
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836 [05:39:52] <baraba> I do Padawan
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839 [05:40:15] <Padawan> baraba: for how long?
840 [05:40:26] <Padawan> do you mind if i ask you a couple
question?
841 [05:40:29] <baraba> maybe 6 months or so
842 [05:40:36] <baraba> I mean the current testing
843 [05:40:46] <baraba> I generally always use the testing branch
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845 [05:40:49] <Padawan> yeah, the strech release
846 [05:40:58] <baraba> yeah, shoot
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850 [05:41:25] <Padawan> So for how long have you being using the
strech releases, not just the current one
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852 [05:41:44] <Padawan> As i understand it is a rolling release,
right
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854 [05:42:10] <baraba> stretch is the current testing
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856 [05:42:14] <asulil> any clue guys?
857 [05:42:21] <baraba> jessie was previous testing, and now
it's stable
858 [05:42:32] <baraba> i've been running testing for years,
Padawan
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860 [05:42:40] <Padawan> asulil: /msg alis list regex search for
terms
861 [05:42:58] <Padawan> baraba: Does it brake now and then for
you?
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864 [05:43:47] <baraba> nothing too bad
865 [05:43:58] <Padawan> like need to format or anything
866 [05:44:01] <missmbob> Padawan: stretch is not a rolling
release. and yes of course it breaks. it's testing for a
reason.
867 [05:44:08] <baraba> never Padawan
868 [05:44:29] <missmbob> a lot of people had their x completely
break a couple of days ago because of the xorg 1.19 transition. good
times
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870 [05:44:50] <baraba> if you put the codename in your
sources.list the system will eventually become stable
871 [05:45:01] <nano_python> A lot people need to check what
happens when they update tbh
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873 [05:45:11] <missmbob> i never said people weren't stupid
874 [05:45:12] <n4dir1> but that is seldom. And breaks usually
get fixed by simply waiting a bit.
875 [05:45:38] <baraba> I never had any show stoppers
876 [05:46:11] <missmbob> !debian-next
877 [05:46:12] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
878 [05:46:12] <n4dir1> though as told earlier in this channel
reading the Sid FAQ doesn't hurt when running testing (and
installing apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs sure is a good idea.
Just like a good backup).
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881 [05:46:22] <missmbob> you should go there if you want more
stretch/testing/sid info
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884 [05:46:40] <Padawan> okay, sorry to bother
885 [05:46:48] <mnf> hello my debain 8.6 is stuk at login screen
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887 [05:48:06] <mnf> help!!!
888 [05:48:19] <nano_python> Which login screen, command line
login, gnome, kde, lxde?
889 [05:48:35] <mnf> gnome
890 [05:49:24] <nano_python> Define "stuck"
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892 [05:49:49] <mnf> keyboard, mouse doesn't work
893 [05:50:42] <asulil> any clue guys?
replaced-url
894 [05:50:42] <cluelessperson> Question, how to continue SYSTEMD
to seperate log files by file?
895 [05:50:50] <cluelessperson> It's STUPID to join ALL logs
into the common syslog
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897 [05:52:17] <nano_python> mnf, Can you Ctrl + Alt + F1 and
does it bring up a command line?
898 [05:52:36] <n4dir1> asulil: testisk has a forum perhaps try
that.
899 [05:52:38] <mnf> command line work fine
900 [05:52:58] <nano_python> Keyboard works in that command line?
901 [05:53:16] <missmbob> pastebin your Xorg.0.log
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905 [05:56:05] <asulil> n4dir: do you know there channel?
906 [05:56:20] <asulil> if they have one
907 [05:56:29] <mnf> yes keyboard works fine
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909 [05:57:05] <nano_python> Good, then you should be able to
access the log file missmbob said.
910 [05:57:12] <n4dir1> asulil: doesn't look as if they had
a channel, but they do have a forum
911 [05:57:13] <missmbob> asulil: you couldnt be bothered to look
at their site? they have a forum and email support
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913 [05:57:50] <mnf> jusr give me the instructions im new to
linux
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916 [05:58:22] <missmbob> ...i did. pastebin Xorg.0.log...
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918 [05:59:19] <pcglue> I just installed debian onto a mdadm
RAID1 array. Had a bit of trouble getting GRUB to install, but it
finally did. How can I tell if the MBR is properly redundant?
919 [06:00:10] <pcglue> When the array finishes syncing, I'm
going to pull out a drive and see if it boots, but before that, is
there anything I can check/verify?
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923 [06:03:18] <n4dir1> mnf you will have to install pastebinit
(for example by "apt-get install pastebinig") and then you
can paste the file by
924 [06:03:23] <n4dir1> pastebinit -b paste.debian.net
/var/log/Xorg.0.log
925 [06:03:42] <n4dir1> then you will have to post the link you
get here.
926 [06:05:01] <mnf> ok.... will it work?
927 [06:05:40] <missmbob> the apt-get bit had a spelling mistake
but aside from that it should work.
928 [06:05:53] <mnf> ok
929 [06:06:22] <n4dir1> pastebinit is *the* shit. :-)
930 [06:06:35] <missmbob> btw on jessie -b paste.debian.net is
default
931 [06:07:23] <n4dir1> you sure? it was for a while, but i think
it then stopped (to work at all). Well: even better if one can scip
the -b part
932 [06:07:40] <missmbob> n4dir1: i'm sure. just tried it.
933 [06:07:51] <n4dir1> well: you might have edited ...
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936 [06:08:21] <missmbob> i'm too lazy to extract a deb to
see default config. but i'm pretty sure :P
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938 [06:08:47] <n4dir1> so am i, but i guess it doesn't
matter. works this way or the other
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942 [06:10:27] <mnf> ok
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945 [06:10:54] <n4dir1> mc unpacks on it's own, btw ...
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967 [06:36:15] <Stiffler> howto completly uninstall kde desktop
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971 [06:38:23] <missmbob> sudo apt remove libkdecore5 should do
it
972 [06:38:28] <missmbob> READ before saying yes
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986 [06:55:24] <Defcronyke> hi
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989 [06:56:06] <Stiffler> hey how come uninstalling libkcore5
only gives me 131 mb .. where as when i installed plasma kde it took
1 gb..?
990 [06:56:18] <Stiffler> libkdecore5*
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993 [06:59:29] <missmbob> it installed recommends and not only
depends
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995 [06:59:58] <missmbob> many reasons
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997 [07:00:10] <missmbob> anyway, that's about the best you
can do automagically
998 [07:01:07] <missmbob> plus after that i'm sure
you'll be able to autoremove some things
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1001 [07:02:28] <Stiffler> apt-get purge --auto-remove
kde-plasma-desktop .. i did that but didnt removed all
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1004 [07:03:25] <Stiffler> weirdly enough gdm still give plasma
option
1005 [07:03:41] <missmbob> sure. i dont see why you thought it
would
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1008 [07:05:43] <Stiffler> so how i completely remove kde trace
1009 [07:05:49] <Stiffler> with out bricking my system
1010 [07:05:59] <Stiffler> google doesnt provide much help
1011 [07:06:07] <Stiffler> nor any documentations
1012 [07:06:14] <missmbob> you really dont automagically. you can
get rid of a lot but there's no magic bullet.
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1015 [07:06:42] <missmbob> this might get you closer:
1016 [07:06:44] <missmbob> !remove kde
1017 [07:06:44] <dpkg> To remove or purge KDE: aptitude remove
kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data libkdecore5. Use
'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what
you want (ask me about <purge>).
1018 [07:07:02] <missmbob> but it has the libkdecore5 i told you
about earlier which i'm not sure you ever did
1019 [07:07:14] <Stiffler> i did that kdecore
1020 [07:07:24] <Stiffler> it removed some gave me 131 mb
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1027 [07:13:03] <awal1> Stiffler: can you paste the outpute of
aptitude -s purge `dpkg --get-selections | grep gnome | cut -f 1` ?
1028 [07:13:16] <Stiffler> k
1029 [07:13:43] <awal1> or/also apt-get -s purge $(dpkg -l | awk
'/kde/{ print $2 }')
1030 [07:13:45] <missmbob> uh
1031 [07:13:46] <missmbob> heh
1032 [07:13:49] <missmbob> i was gonna say
1033 [07:13:59] <awal1> Stiffler, sorry I meant kde not gnome
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1038 [07:14:57] <Stiffler> i am not getting any thing with
"apt-get -s purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/kde/{ print $2
}'"
1039 [07:15:00] <Stiffler> only >
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1043 [07:16:48] <Defcronyke> hi
1044 [07:17:02] <missmbob> Stiffler: remove libplasma3
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1046 [07:17:15] <Stiffler> hmm k
1047 [07:17:22] <awal1> Stiffler, what about the first command
1048 [07:17:31] <Stiffler> same only getting >
1049 [07:18:00] <xar-> test
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1051 [07:18:01] <Stiffler> libplasma3 package not installed
1052 [07:18:22] <missmbob> Stiffler: be happy. you got enough.
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1055 [07:18:32] <Stiffler> >.<
1056 [07:18:38] <Stiffler> it took 1 gb from me
1057 [07:18:45] <Stiffler> i got almost 300 mb back
1058 [07:18:47] <missmbob> pay attention next time/keep logs
1059 [07:18:52] <Stiffler> ya ...
1060 [07:19:06] <xar-> been meaning to ask, is there a difference
between this channel (on freenode) and the one on OFTC?
1061 [07:19:09] <Stiffler> they should have documentation on how
to remove meta pacakages
1062 [07:19:12] <missmbob> it's the recommends that get you
every time with this shit
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1064 [07:19:30] <missmbob> no, this is why i said there's no
real way
1065 [07:19:39] <Stiffler> ya..
1066 [07:19:46] <Stiffler> developers should make some way
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1068 [07:19:59] <Stiffler> its really waste space to give un used
libs
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1070 [07:20:07] <Stiffler> keep*
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1074 [07:20:29] <missmbob> xar-: oftc is official. this used to
be, but not anymore
1075 [07:20:42] <awal1> Stiffler, what I do for remove gnome / kde
or any metapkg is check ap logs , there you'll find which pkgs
where installed when you installed kde, kde-standard ... so remove
them
1076 [07:20:45] <xar-> ah, thank you
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1078 [07:20:54] <awal1> apt logs ^
1079 [07:21:02] <xar-> the two powers that be should get together
and think about linking the channels together
1080 [07:21:21] <Stiffler> ah ... yes
1081 [07:21:22] <missmbob> xar-: that's not happening. it
switched in 2006
1082 [07:21:35] <xar-> :S
1083 [07:21:38] <Stiffler> ty awal1
1084 [07:21:42] <Stiffler> and bob
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1086 [07:22:12] <Stiffler> but as i belive its totally a mis
management on dev side not to make one
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1088 [07:22:42] <awal1> Stiffler, also use list installed pkg and
grep kde related stuff like kde, plasma, qt ... and proceed removing
what you dont need
1089 [07:22:51] <missmbob> most real geeks think autoremove is
going too far. and they'd be mostly correct. it tends to break
a lot of shit when people dont pay attention
1090 [07:23:04] <awal1> use dpkg -l | grep blablabla
1091 [07:23:07] <Stiffler> exactly
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1093 [07:23:52] <missmbob> exactly what? you can't fix stupid
1094 [07:24:07] <Stiffler> no no
1095 [07:24:15] <n4dir> and the ones who think autoremove
doesn't go far enough use deborphan , aptitude purge ~c, and so
on ...
1096 [07:24:19] <Stiffler> i mean their should be easy button from
dev side
1097 [07:24:37] <missmbob> n4dir: right. there are ways for those
who really care to go more. but like i said, not automagically
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1099 [07:24:55] <Defcronyke> how is debian stable doing lately? is
it stable?
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1101 [07:25:03] <Stiffler> evey1 of us dont like to spend 1 day on
linux for a 2 hr job
1102 [07:25:05] <missmbob> Defcronyke: it's called stable.
that means it's stable
1103 [07:25:09] <Defcronyke> what about Arch Linux or Windows 10?
1104 [07:25:14] <missmbob> Defcronyke: go away
1105 [07:25:16] <Defcronyke> are those stable?
1106 [07:25:18] <Defcronyke> okay
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1108 [07:25:32] <warchild> lol
1109 [07:26:06] <Stiffler> i say linux i love it any destro
1110 [07:26:11] <missmbob> Stiffler: i spend about 12 hours a day
on linux so i dont really get it.
1111 [07:26:12] <n4dir> not sure if automagically was a typo or
meant that way, but it sure is a great word
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1113 [07:26:17] <Stiffler> i say win its makes life easier
1114 [07:26:27] <missmbob> n4dir: i meant it :P
1115 [07:26:32] <Stiffler> bob i am in securty and networks
1116 [07:26:35] <n4dir> gotta remember that one.
1117 [07:26:42] <Stiffler> i use linux yes but my office run
windows
1118 [07:26:47] <awal1> Stiffler, a few days ago I removed the
whole gnome desktop, and took me like 15 minutes. I just used dpkg
-l | grep gnome and related pkg
1119 [07:27:00] <Stiffler> but i do implement linux solution so i
stay on it
1120 [07:27:30] <Stiffler> awal1 i just got atleast 40 packages of
kde still remaning :)
1121 [07:27:36] <Stiffler> by that command
1122 [07:27:42] <missmbob> really add some wildcards in that
bitch...*gnome* *gtk*...two minutes flat :P
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1124 [07:28:03] <missmbob> Stiffler: so add wildcards. you care a
lot for not trying shit :P
1125 [07:28:15] <awal1> Stiffler, dpkg -l | grep qt
1126 [07:28:18] <n4dir> i usually do that, wildcards, but am not
too sure if it is a good idea (for me it works, but that's not
the point)
1127 [07:28:25] <Stiffler> well i am scared adding * as it might
break packages
1128 [07:28:30] <Stiffler> >.<
1129 [07:28:30] <awal1> be aware that not only kde stuff uses qt
1130 [07:28:39] <Stiffler> yep
1131 [07:28:41] <missmbob> of course you see what it does before
saying yes.
1132 [07:28:43] <Stiffler> i am scared for that
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1134 [07:29:06] <Stiffler> IMO
1135 [07:29:11] <n4dir> imho : if i remove stuff i didn't
want to remove, i install it again. Can't see that much of a
problem
1136 [07:29:15] <Stiffler> Linux is all about MISMANAGEMENT!
1137 [07:29:57] <missmbob> newbies couldnt care less. you think
ubuntu users give a damn that ppp is installed by default? and huge
geeks dont care because they dont mind manual. so...yeah.
you're kind of on your own on that one
1138 [07:30:25] <Stiffler> newbies are all that made billy the
willy billioniar
1139 [07:30:29] <Stiffler> yes i care for them
1140 [07:30:31] <awal1> Stiffler, which kde metapkg have you
installed?
1141 [07:30:40] <Stiffler> and yes its true linux is miss -
managed
1142 [07:30:51] <Stiffler> i installed it from synaptic
1143 [07:30:59] <Stiffler> kde meta package
1144 [07:31:42] <awal1> there is no a metapkg called kde, man
1145 [07:31:44] <missmbob> you can think that 'til the calls
come home, but for linux to work with so many different GUI's,
toolkits, etc...fuck. if that's mismanaged, we're all
fucked. it works damn well. on windows if i install an old program i
get the blue screen of death
1146 [07:32:06] <Stiffler> still
1147 [07:32:07] <awal1> I meant kde-standard, kde-full ,
task-desktop-kde
1148 [07:32:23] <Stiffler> still .. bob it get job done for newbie
who arent IT ppls
1149 [07:32:38] <Stiffler> kde-desktop-full
1150 [07:32:50] <Stiffler> hold on
1151 [07:32:55] <Stiffler> pls give me link of the past bin
1152 [07:32:56] <awal1> never heard about kde-desktop-full
1153 [07:33:09] <awal1> ,v kde-desktop-full
1154 [07:33:10] <judd> No package named
'kde-desktop-full' was found in amd64.
1155 [07:33:11] <Stiffler> thats not package name
1156 [07:33:19] <Stiffler> i meant whole kde package
1157 [07:33:25] <Stiffler> hold on
1158 [07:33:47] <missmbob> task-kde-deskop
1159 [07:33:55] <Stiffler> aptitude install ~t^desktop$
~t^kde-desktop$
1160 [07:34:09] <Stiffler> and if u open synaptic
1161 [07:34:14] <Stiffler> their is task-shell
1162 [07:34:24] <Stiffler> their u can mark the packages by task
1163 [07:34:35] <Stiffler> their u get all the desktops u need to
install by task
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1165 [07:36:50] <awal1> Stiffler, you can just check aptitude logs
in /var/log . you'll find which pkgs were installed when you
used that command. proceed to purge them
1166 [07:36:57] <Stiffler>
replaced-url
1167 [07:37:13] <Stiffler> their
1168 [07:37:24] <awal1> then use aptitude purge ~b/~c/~o , -f
install and so
1169 [07:37:29] <Stiffler> output off : dpkg -l | grep kde
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1172 [07:38:20] <missmbob> Stiffler: do you use any qt apps? do
you want anything at all from kde?
1173 [07:38:34] <Stiffler> i dont think so
1174 [07:38:40] <Stiffler> qt app might be
1175 [07:38:56] <missmbob> so for the love of god of just apt-get
remove "*kde*" and see what it wants. is it acceptable?
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1178 [07:39:51] <Stiffler> read those packages
1179 [07:39:54] <Stiffler> hold sex
1180 [07:39:55] <Stiffler> sec
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1182 [07:40:07] <awal1> Stiffler: you get that running dpkg -l |
grep kde and you said you dont get anything running aptitude -s
purge `dpkg --get-selections | grep gnome | cut -f 1`
1183 [07:40:14] <awal1> can't be true
1184 [07:40:25] <Stiffler> i only got >
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1186 [07:40:26] <awal1> aptitude -s purge `dpkg --get-selections |
grep kde | cut -f 1`
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1188 [07:40:34] <Stiffler> ok
1189 [07:40:35] <missmbob> awal1: from his output i'm guess
his gui messed up ` and ' or something like that
1190 [07:40:44] <Stiffler> lol no
1191 [07:40:48] <Stiffler> its not messed uo
1192 [07:40:50] <missmbob> the command works here
1193 [07:41:08] <missmbob> anyway finished reading?
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1195 [07:41:16] <Stiffler> yes run here too
1196 [07:41:20] <Stiffler> posting output
1197 [07:41:57] <Stiffler>
replaced-url
1198 [07:42:04] <Stiffler> bob sec pls
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1200 [07:42:14] <missmbob> okay ler
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1202 [07:42:48] <awal1> Stiffler: you're in stretch /sid?
1203 [07:42:52] <Stiffler>
replaced-url
1204 [07:43:00] <Stiffler> what are those libs file only kde?
1205 [07:43:04] <Stiffler> stretch
1206 [07:43:10] <missmbob> with tab completion being so difficult
no wonder wildcards is like pulling teeth
1207 [07:43:19] <awal1> bcuz sddm isn't in jessie :P
1208 [07:43:34] <Stiffler> not going to stretch channel
1209 [07:43:42] <awal1> :D
1210 [07:43:43] <Stiffler> man those ppls they answer are real bad
1211 [07:43:57] <Stiffler> they asked me to reinstall debian
1212 [07:43:59] <missmbob> Stiffler: all you have to do is see if
you need those packages. you get to keep qt and get rid of all the
rest
1213 [07:44:02] <Stiffler> for a xorg faliure
1214 [07:44:14] <missmbob> sigh
1215 [07:44:16] <Stiffler> hmm working on it
1216 [07:44:19] <missmbob> your x wont start?
1217 [07:44:34] <missmbob> after all that your x wont start?
that's what you're trying to fix?
1218 [07:44:37] <Stiffler> actually xserver had bug in sid
1219 [07:44:44] <missmbob> jesus christ man
1220 [07:44:49] <missmbob> you could've told us that an hour
ago
1221 [07:44:52] <Stiffler> which i didnt saw and dist-upgraded it
1222 [07:44:53] <missmbob> !xorg1.19 fix
1223 [07:44:53] <dpkg> First "apt remove xserver-xorg-core
xorg", then edit sources.list to ensure you have sources for
testing in there. Run "apt update" and "apt install
xserver-xorg-xorg/testing xorg/testing". See also <testing
unstable mix>.
1224 [07:45:01] <Stiffler> xorg working fine man
1225 [07:45:04] <missmbob> that fixes the xorg problem in
testing/sid
1226 [07:45:06] <Stiffler> i fixed it
1227 [07:45:18] <Stiffler> exactly thats waht i did
1228 [07:45:27] <Stiffler> and those a holes bitch swear at me
1229 [07:45:31] <missmbob> good. i wrote that foctoid. it's a
good one :P
1230 [07:45:32] <Stiffler> and asked me to leave channel
1231 [07:45:46] <Stiffler> and told me to reinstall debian
1232 [07:45:49] <Stiffler> sigh
1233 [07:45:52] <Stiffler> horriable
1234 [07:46:06] <missmbob> well dont listen to idiots. and please
do the removal of "*kde*"
1235 [07:46:14] <missmbob> then it's all over and we can go
home
1236 [07:46:41] <Stiffler> ty working on it
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1238 [07:46:44] <Stiffler> and thx guys
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1241 [07:47:05] <Stiffler> u ppls are lot better than those shit
at testing channels at least ppls who bother to answer
1242 [07:47:20] <missmbob> i'm there too :P all day every
day. must've missed you
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1244 [07:47:51] <awal1> Stiffler, just say yes to that command
after removing -s (simulate)
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1248 [07:48:45] <Stiffler> awal1 which coomend?
1249 [07:48:59] <Stiffler> command*
1250 [07:49:48] <missmbob> this should be the start of a joke. a
canadian, a brazilian and a whatever Stiffler is walODks into a
bar...
1251 [07:50:00] <awal1> Stiffler: just run as root aptitude purge
`dpkg --get-selections | grep kde | cut -f 1`
1252 [07:50:00] <missmbob> stupid cat
1253 [07:50:11] <Stiffler> lol
1254 [07:50:25] <awal1> also aptitude purge `dpkg --get-selections
| grep deinstall | cut -f 1`
1255 [07:50:38] <awal1> I think you're drunk, Stiffler
1256 [07:50:48] <Stiffler> nope man
1257 [07:51:24] <awal1> when you're done gerp other kde and
plasma stuff and purge them
1258 [07:51:32] <awal1> also qt
1259 [07:51:43] <Stiffler> hmm
1260 [07:51:51] <missmbob> i dont understand his use of dpkg and
grep, but the outcome is the same and sane. you should do it
1261 [07:52:10] <Stiffler> got 500 mb back over all
1262 [07:52:25] <missmbob> please read very carefully
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1264 [07:53:05] <Stiffler> ok now retarting
1265 [07:53:29] <awal1> missmbob, simply aptitude will purge kde
stuff gotten from dpkg --get-selections
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1267 [07:54:23] <missmbob> awal1: i get what it does. i know bash.
i dont understand why you did it that way is all
1268 [07:54:36] <missmbob> awal1: that's why i told him to do
it :P
1269 [07:55:12] <awal1> missmbob, bcuz I know my machines and I
know what I install , so it's one of my ways for remove stuff
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1271 [07:55:30] <TestingIRC> what is /proc/self/mem for ? whan I
read or write to it it says "Input/output error"
1272 [07:55:34] <awal1> I understand that there may be people who
doesn't know what they do
1273 [07:55:44] <awal1> like Stiffler :P
1274 [07:55:51] <TestingIRC> or his mom
1275 [07:56:49] <TestingIRC> any gurus or hackers are here ?
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1277 [07:57:25] <missmbob> TestingIRC: if you want to be
appropriate i can answer your question
1278 [07:57:36] <TestingIRC> waht
1279 [07:57:42] <Stiffler> back!
1280 [07:57:48] <Stiffler> got 500 mb back
1281 [07:57:50] <Stiffler> still intact
1282 [07:57:58] <Stiffler> got plasma out from gdm screen
1283 [07:58:05] <TestingIRC> Stiffler: while you was away
1284 [07:58:15] <TestingIRC> < awal1> I understand that
there may be people who doesn't know what they do
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1286 [07:58:15] <TestingIRC> < awal1> like Stiffler :P
1287 [07:58:33] <Stiffler> :)
1288 [07:58:38] <Stiffler> i luv u all ^_^
1289 [07:58:41] <awal1> Stiffler, yeah, you dont know what you do
sometimes :P
1290 [07:58:43] <TestingIRC> < TestingIRC> or his mom
1291 [07:58:55] <Stiffler> lol
1292 [07:59:10] <Stiffler> <--- crazy boooboo
1293 [07:59:24] <TestingIRC> what is /proc/self/mem for ? whan I
read or write to it it says "Input/output error"
1294 [07:59:35] <TestingIRC> /proc/self/mom
1295 [07:59:42] <missmbob> TestingIRC: please stop
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1297 [08:00:05] <TestingIRC> missmbob: answer
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1299 [08:00:16] <Stiffler> more like i dont pay much attention to
what i do till it poke my ass ...
1300 [08:00:20] <missmbob> i dont work on demand and i dont answer
to people being inappropriate
1301 [08:00:22] <Stiffler> bad habbit of mine
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1303 [08:00:35] <awal1> !ops TestingIRC spamming
1304 [08:00:36] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: awal1 complains
about: TestingIRC spamming
1305 [08:00:39] <TestingIRC> missmbob: you are not much helpful
why are you in here then
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1307 [08:01:20] <awal1> Stiffler, what you get running aptitude
purge ~c ?
1308 [08:01:36] <awal1> and aptitude purge ~o
1309 [08:01:47] <TestingIRC> any sane people in here ?
1310 [08:01:52] <Stiffler> havnt done purge yet
1311 [08:01:55] <Stiffler> checking logs
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1314 [08:03:47] <awal1> Stiffler, you can always simulate stuff as
regular user, just adding -s argument
1315 [08:04:18] <Stiffler> ah
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1318 [08:04:34] <Stiffler> can u give me an example
1319 [08:05:00] <missmbob> apt -s install task-gnome-desktop
1320 [08:05:28] <Stiffler> ty
1321 [08:05:36] <awal1> Stiffler, people in #debian-next
(testing/sid) are not rude. the idea is: if you run testing/unstable
you must be responsible, have enough knowledge about debian and know
what to do. thats all
1322 [08:06:06] <Stiffler> i know
1323 [08:06:09] <Stiffler> but hear me
1324 [08:06:15] <Stiffler> how it started
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1327 [08:07:08] <Stiffler> i was their after i dist-upgrade in
drowsy mannue at the morning without noticing that xserver had some
issue at sid
1328 [08:07:18] <Stiffler> so i gone their about my problem
1329 [08:07:26] <Stiffler> i posted my sources.list
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1331 [08:07:40] <Stiffler> their was 2 ppas yes theme ppas .. i
installed
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1333 [08:07:50] <Stiffler> and they started bitching we dont
support ubuntu
1334 [08:07:53] <Stiffler> ..
1335 [08:08:06] <awal1> they are correct :P
1336 [08:08:16] <Stiffler> then some one suggested and bitched all
the time i was their to reinstall debian as xserver was fked
1337 [08:08:21] <missmbob> eh. ppa's do break a lot of shit
in debian. hard to blame them to not want to support that when you
come in right away saying "things are broken to shit!"
1338 [08:08:22] <Stiffler> but those were theme
1339 [08:08:25] <Stiffler> not software
1340 [08:08:37] <Stiffler> then
1341 [08:08:49] <Stiffler> i told them why i reinstall linux i
will fix it
1342 [08:08:53] <Stiffler> rather than reinstalling
1343 [08:09:02] <Stiffler> they told u r system is fcked u cant
1344 [08:09:14] <Stiffler> and then 30 min later i did fixed it
1345 [08:09:19] <Stiffler> and now its runing i am using it
1346 [08:09:26] <Stiffler> now tell me who is fked?
1347 [08:09:27] <awal1> Stiffler, sometimes reinstalling is faster
and easier than debugging and trying stuff
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1350 [08:09:37] <missmbob> doesnt matter. you got someone in a bad
mood. point is more often than not people there know a lot more of
what's going on with a testing/sid system than people in
#debian
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1352 [08:09:39] <Stiffler> they are in testing channel with that
much knowledge?
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1354 [08:10:09] <Stiffler> yes but they are in testing channel
with their limited knowledge
1355 [08:10:10] <missmbob> there are idiots everywhere. stay here
long enough and i'll be telling you to go to #debian-next :P
1356 [08:10:15] <Stiffler> trying to solve ppls problem
1357 [08:10:21] <Stiffler> thats even sadder
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1360 [08:10:48] <Stiffler> bob should be on testing channel so are
u
1361 [08:10:49] <awal1> Stiffler: you should read sid faq in
debian wiki
1362 [08:10:50] <Stiffler> they are uselss
1363 [08:10:59] <missmbob> i'm there all day every day
1364 [08:11:08] <Stiffler> ah
1365 [08:11:19] <Stiffler> 2 hrs of pure bitching
1366 [08:11:29] <awal1> when done you'll understand what is
the general idea in unstable/testing, including irc channels
1367 [08:11:30] <Stiffler> even my gf doesnt bitch as much as they
did
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1369 [08:11:46] <Stiffler> true man
1370 [08:12:01] <Stiffler> but i dont get it why with limited info
u are in testing channel
1371 [08:12:04] <Stiffler> miss informing ppls
1372 [08:12:12] <Stiffler> mine got solved in 30 min
1373 [08:12:22] <Stiffler> reinstall would took 5-6hrs
1374 [08:12:27] <Stiffler> with all configs
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1376 [08:12:38] <Stiffler> >.<
1377 [08:12:44] <awal1> Stiffler, anyways, do you have any other
questions about your debian system right now?
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1379 [08:12:52] <Stiffler> no man
1380 [08:12:56] <Stiffler> ty for the help
1381 [08:13:04] <mrrtump> indeed you have become powerful, as the
emperor had forseen
1382 [08:13:14] <mrrtump> anyone trouble testing chrome?
1383 [08:13:16] <mrrtump> lokups?
1384 [08:13:19] <mrrtump> fixed?
1385 [08:13:22] <mrrtump> went to freebsd
1386 [08:13:23] <awal1> bcuz for complain you have
#debian-offtopic or the church in your area :P
1387 [08:13:31] <mrrtump> no aidui on my amd 965 6 core
1388 [08:13:36] <mrrtump> faak
1389 [08:13:40] <mrrtump> back to deb regular
1390 [08:13:43] <mrrtump> everything works
1391 [08:14:03] <mrrtump> but the devil in me wants testing for
newest swi prolog so I can dmiante the web by replacing lamp with
linux+prolog
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1394 [08:14:14] <mrrtump> church u mean bar tender
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1396 [08:14:23] <missmbob> mrrtump: come back when you're
sober. please stop for now
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1398 [08:15:05] <bezaban> try some citrus
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1401 [08:17:59] <awal1> Stiffler, you may want to continue
cleaning your system out off kde stuff, or you will cey again next
time you dist-upgrade/full-upgrade/ fix your system (-f install)
1402 [08:18:19] <awal1> cry ^
1403 [08:18:19] <Stiffler> hmm k
1404 [08:18:40] <Stiffler> meh i didnt cried
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1406 [08:18:42] <Stiffler> they bitch
1407 [08:18:48] <awal1> :)
1408 [08:18:52] <Stiffler> i got free entertainment
1409 [08:18:54] <Stiffler> :)
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1413 [08:22:36] <awal1> Stiffler:
replaced-url
1414 [08:22:48] <Stiffler> ty
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1424 [08:32:43] <missmbob> awal1: did you end up at least giving
vivaldi a shot?
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1435 [08:42:44] <awal1> missmbob: no, not yet. But I will :)
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1437 [08:43:07] <awal1> a little bit lazy right now, maybe
tomorrow sunday
1438 [08:43:09] <awal1> :P
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1443 [08:44:30] <r0ck> ok
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1446 [08:45:52] <r0ck> love you too
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1449 [08:47:16] <awal1> missmbob: being chromium or chrome based,
I'm sure I will not like it as I like firefox. Bcuz I'll
not be able to configure it as I want, which thing I can do for
firefox, as you know
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1451 [08:48:21] <missmbob> awal1: that's what makes vivaldi
different. it's from the old school opera group (not the
current ones) that love tweaking everything. guarante you vivaldi
settings have more options than you've ever seen :P
1452 [08:48:57] <awal1> missmbob: ok, I'll give it a shot so
:)
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1471 [08:58:14] <awal1> Why "Installing for i386
platform" message when configuring grub-pc amd64 pkg if my arch
is amd64?
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1480 [09:02:14] <missmbob> awal1: i just did sudo apt --reinstall
install grub-pc just to see what would happen and ...that
didn't
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1483 [09:03:43] <somiaj> awal1: double check you have the amd64
version installed?
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1485 [09:03:54] <mrrtump> is there a new browser by duckgo?
1486 [09:03:56] <mrrtump> or somthing?
1487 [09:03:59] <awal1> missmbob: weird so
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1490 [09:05:01] <awal1> somiaj, amd 64 for sure:P
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1494 [09:05:58] <missmbob> to be fair i didnt test stretch version
because this isn't #debian-next :P shame on you
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1497 [09:06:20] <awal1> :D
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1501 [09:07:30] <awal1> I have always seen that message since
squeeze
1502 [09:07:55] <missmbob> awal1: are you specifying arch in
sources.list?
1503 [09:07:57] <awal1> in both amd64 & i386
1504 [09:08:09] <awal1> missmbob, no
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1507 [09:08:32] <missmbob> in both. so you have i386 multiarch?
1508 [09:08:38] <awal1> no
1509 [09:08:58] <awal1> i meant no matters if my system is amd64
or i386
1510 [09:09:08] <somiaj> awal1: look at the grub-install manpage
under --target, the default is i386-pc which might be all that
message is saying
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1513 [09:09:52] <somiaj> I don't see a seperate one for amd64
legacy boot (I do see a sperate one for amd64-efi though)
1514 [09:10:09] <somiaj> which to me makes sense, I didn't
thikn legacy boot mattered if you were 64 or 32bit on x86 hardware.
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1520 [09:12:10] <awal1> somiaj, yes , no amd64 legacy boot
reference. I guess your last sentence is the correct explanation so
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1522 [09:12:27] <missmbob> i wonder why he sees it and i dont.
1523 [09:12:36] <somiaj> missmbob: could be some debconf setting
1524 [09:12:54] <somiaj> could be something new in the stretch
version that it reports this now
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1526 [09:13:08] <somiaj> nevermind, if it has been happening since
squeze
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1532 [09:16:03] <awal1> missmbob: do you get that message in your
sid system?
1533 [09:16:24] <missmbob> awal1: not legacy on that one
1534 [09:16:32] <awal1> ok
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1546 [09:24:52] <BELGIUMHERO>
replaced-url
1547 [09:25:00] <BELGIUMHERO> There’s a practice in America
that’s been in place since the 1800’s among mostly white
Americans – male genital mutilation. How in the world did the
average American white male have his genitals modified to a kosher
standard? Almost all American white males have had a bris periah
performed on them at birth. Even the devices used such as gomco
clamp and mogen clamp are purely Jewish in origin.
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1575 [09:40:11] <LinuxNovice> hello, anybody online here?
1576 [09:40:17] <LinuxNovice> needed some help.
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1578 [09:40:55] <thefreakjoe> help me plz,
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1579 [09:40:59] <thefreakjoe> good morming
1580 [09:41:00] <highas>
replaced-url
1581 [09:41:41] <LinuxNovice> is debian dog jesse supported by
debian?
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1586 [09:43:20] <thefreakjoe> Guys,
replaced-url
1587 [09:43:25] <thefreakjoe> what happend ?
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1589 [09:44:40] <missmbob> thefreakjoe: my guess is you download
steam from their website and didnt use the debian package
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1591 [09:45:58] <thefreakjoe> fixing it tks
1592 [09:45:59] <thefreakjoe> MissionCritical,
1593 [09:46:02] <thefreakjoe> missmbob,
1594 [09:46:02] <thefreakjoe> xD
1595 [09:46:18] <missmbob> steam is mission critical, huh?
that's when you know your life has lost all meaning
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1597 [09:46:45] <missmbob> thefreakjoe: anyway read this
replaced-url
1598 [09:47:17] <missmbob> remove their crap first
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1600 [09:47:59] <hiya> I need em-whois for whois in Debian with a
bot program made with ruby
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1602 [09:48:05] <hiya> What should I install?
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1605 [09:48:43] <thefreakjoe> missmbob, btw
replaced-url
1606 [09:48:51] <LinuxNovice> would you recommend debian dog for a
very old laptop?
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1608 [09:49:42] <missmbob> thefreakjoe: again, that's because
you arent following the debian wiki and doing it the debian way. how
many times must i say it?
1609 [09:50:09] <missmbob> thefreakjoe: just stop whatever the
hell tutorial you're reading and read the wiki i linked you to
1610 [09:50:31] <missmbob> trying to install ia32-libs. you must
be out of your goddamn mind
1611 [09:50:47] <KAYDEN61> MetaNova,
replaced-url
1612 [09:50:55] <missmbob> hiya:
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1614 [09:51:04] <missmbob> hiya: just install it from source
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1617 [09:51:22] <LinuxNovice> can I expect my question to be
answered?
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1627 [09:53:56] <pilarwi> Brainwashing: 9/11 & the Holocaust
replaced-url
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1641 [09:59:13] <law> anyone here familiar with Jessie preseeding?
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1648 [10:01:42] <hiya> missmbob, ok thanks
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1664 [10:09:58] <Agiato> How to paint all the cells in Calc with
the same value?
1665 [10:10:22] <bazhang> heh
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1670 [10:14:13] <thefreakjoe> ohh tks missmbob
1671 [10:14:24] <thefreakjoe> what is the name of the package that
provides sl ? seconlife
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1673 [10:14:56] <thefreakjoe> AHAHAHAH
1674 [10:15:01] <thefreakjoe> apt-get install sl
1675 [10:15:03] <thefreakjoe> run sl
1676 [10:15:05] <thefreakjoe> and watch
1677 [10:15:06] <thefreakjoe> xD
1678 [10:15:13] <bazhang> did you mean ls
1679 [10:15:29] <thefreakjoe> sl
1680 [10:15:43] <thefreakjoe> its a train
1681 [10:15:44] <thefreakjoe> ROFL
1682 [10:15:51] <thefreakjoe> lmao
1683 [10:16:39] <somiaj> !enter
1684 [10:16:40] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for
punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to
follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '.
', ';', '...', '---', or
':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be
autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
1685 [10:17:13] <somiaj> Agiato: is this libreoffice? They have a
chanel here I belive.
1686 [10:17:34] <thefreakjoe> sl-h AHHAAH
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1688 [10:17:36] <thefreakjoe> run sl-h
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1690 [10:17:44] <bazhang> somiaj, does debian still have xchat in
the repos or just hexchat now
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1692 [10:18:08] <awal1> ,v xchat
1693 [10:18:09] <judd> Package: xchat on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.8.8-7.1; jessie: 2.8.8-7.3
1694 [10:18:15] <missmbob> dont use hexchat
1695 [10:18:19] <missmbob> it's outdated and evil
1696 [10:18:20] <bazhang> thanks awall
1697 [10:18:23] <missmbob> oops
1698 [10:18:24] <somiaj> bazhang:
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1699 [10:18:29] <missmbob> i meant xchat. use hexchat ;)
1700 [10:18:31] <somiaj> bazhang: you can find why it is removed
from there
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1702 [10:18:40] <drmagoo> Where can I turn to, if I have problems
with the Nvidia-drivers in Debian Unstable ?
1703 [10:18:41] <thefreakjoe> my advice is LOSTirc
1704 [10:18:45] <thefreakjoe> cool and awsome look
1705 [10:19:04] <missmbob> !tell drmagoo about debian-next
1706 [10:19:05] <somiaj> drmagoo: what are your problems? Are you
using the drivers from debian or the ones from nvidia.com?
1707 [10:19:13] <bazhang> drmagoo, unstalbe is on another irc iirc
1708 [10:19:51] <CuteMeOwnThroat> thefreakjoe, it exists for many
years… we know it ^ ^
1709 [10:19:53] <Dreaman> weechat
1710 [10:19:58] <drmagoo> somiaj: from the repos, but right now I
cant update nvidia-drivers and the related xorg drivers. There seems
to be some missing packages in the repo I'm using
1711 [10:20:17] <lukaso666> Dreaman: yeah! weechat!
1712 [10:20:23] <drmagoo> bazhang: know the name of the channel?
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1714 [10:20:45] <missmbob> drmagoo: i had the bot /msg you the
info
1715 [10:20:58] <somiaj> drmagoo: that is sometimes the nature of
sid, you can ask in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net as you were pointed
to and maybe someone can help you track it down.
1716 [10:21:04] <bazhang> testing/unstable: #debian-next
(irc.oftc.net) drmagoo
1717 [10:21:34] <somiaj> drmagoo: note, unmet dependencies in sid
usually fix themselves, you just have to wait
1718 [10:21:42] <somiaj> (well get fixed)
1719 [10:21:45] <drmagoo> somiaj: I know, but its been ongoing for
a few days now =)
1720 [10:21:53] <drmagoo> Thank you guys for the help
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1722 [10:22:03] <missmbob> xorg transition started killing people
about 3 days ago
1723 [10:22:22] <missmbob> another sid user not reading what apt
was going to do. tsk tsk.
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1741 [10:30:56] <thefreakjoe> guys ia32-libs dont come with jessie
?
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1744 [10:32:20] <missmbob> no
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1754 [10:34:44] <JyZyXEL> how do i see if a systemd service is set
to auto-start at startup?
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1757 [10:35:53] <han-solo> systemctl
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1759 [10:36:30] <JyZyXEL> status doesn't tell
1760 [10:36:40] <missmbob> JyZyXEL: sudo systemctl status foolio
will tell you if it's enabled (auto-start)
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1763 [10:36:49] <JyZyXEL> oh enabled means that
1764 [10:37:00] <han-solo> systemctl is-enabled <service>
1765 [10:37:05] <han-solo> ah
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1776 [10:40:50] <thefreakjoe> omg
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1778 [10:41:03] <thefreakjoe> mixxx is so screw'up
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1780 [10:41:56] <thefreakjoe> last night i contact benny from
debian, sayin that package was 2.0 but programma was 1.8 now they
send me email saying it was fixed i tryed from backports jessie
install mixxx
1781 [10:41:59] <thefreakjoe> well
1782 [10:42:04] <thefreakjoe> doesnt even open
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1784 [10:42:19] <thefreakjoe> !
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1788 [10:44:20] <thefreakjoe> "mixxx" from
jessie-backports is broken
1789 [10:44:24] <thefreakjoe> make a bug report plz
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1815 [10:59:40] <unborn> missmbob: I would like to install legacy
nvidia drivers from wheezy backports.. now to my understanding I
should remove anything to do with nvidia current drivers which did
not worked.. is there any simple solution to remove anything to do
with nvidia ? so I can install from backports without issue? (btw
you was right, installing drivers from outside of repos is just bad
idea, lucky me I've done it on cloned hdd, so no harm to real
system)
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1820 [11:03:55] <Akuli> dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
1821 [11:03:55] * dpkg selects akuli's pr0n collection
1822 [11:04:07] <Akuli> hmm... lol
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1825 [11:05:44] <i-kill-frogs> i kill frogs
1826 [11:05:48] <i-kill-frogs> i kill frogs
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1828 [11:06:48] <nutshell> that was fast :)
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1832 [11:08:18] <i-kill-frogs> !ops i kill frogs
1833 [11:08:19] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: i-kill-frogs
complains about: i kill frogs
1834 [11:08:31] <i-kill-frogs> !ops
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1835 [11:08:32] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: i-kill-frogs
complains about:
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1844 [11:10:09] <noto> can you help me install lampp on kali linux
bro,
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1848 [11:12:53] <somiaj> !kali
1849 [11:12:53] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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1972 [12:16:43] <matthiaskrgr> ô.o
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2002 [12:40:26] <cheesus> #ncmpcpp is a dead channel(on OFTC), so
I thought I'd try here, but feel free to redirect if necessary.
Attempting to install ncmpcpp but getting an error in configure:
./configure: line 15722: syntax error near unexpected token
`ICU,' ./configure: line 15722: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(ICU,
icu-uc,'
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2015 [12:48:51] <barney> Hi folks. Could you help me with a
keyboard issue under Xorf ? I set layout for fr in many files
(/etc/default/keyboard and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/30-keyboard.conf)
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2017 [12:49:14] <barney> But X starts with a qwerty keyboard
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2020 [12:50:13] <barney> I use unstable
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2022 [12:50:48] <barney> File /var/log/Xorg.0.log confirms fr is
used.
2023 [12:51:04] <barney> localectl also displays that layout is fr
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2025 [12:51:38] <barney> but the keyboard in in qwerty until i
setxkbmap fr
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2056 [13:09:05] <lacek_ur> hi
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2063 [13:10:45] <lacek_ur> using debianInstaller Preseed i'd
like to set up a paswordless sudo user (for vagrant) with
preseed/late_command but no matter what i try i cant get it done
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2066 [13:11:30] <lacek_ur> the config in the preseed is currently
this : d-i preseed/late_command string \
2067 [13:11:30] <lacek_ur> echo "%vagrant ALL=(ALL:ALL)
NOPASSWD:ALL" > /target/etc/sudoers.d/vagrant &&
chmod 0440 /target/etc/sudoers.d/vagrant
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2069 [13:12:18] <Dreaman> how to use wifi
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2071 [13:12:29] <lacek_ur> and when i boot in to the system there
is no trace of anything in /etc/sudoers.d/ it seems like the
preseed/late_command is never executed
2072 [13:12:32] <Dreaman> kernels frameworks
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2074 [13:12:55] <petn-randall> !tell Dreaman -about ask
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2076 [13:13:37] <lacek_ur> there are some other variants of this
preseed/late_command which is different in the formatting, i tried
several but none does the job
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2079 [13:14:47] <lacek_ur> can somebody help me how could i manage
to do this either using preseed late_command, or somehow
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2082 [13:15:05] <Dreaman> petn-randall ask 1000 time not work
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2084 [13:15:33] <Dreaman> developers see this
2085 [13:15:56] <Dreaman> fedora work but i not good for my old
laptop
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2099 [13:25:38] <Kaylas> missmbob CuteMeOwnThroat i'm back :D
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2103 [13:26:26] <Kaylas> i've analyzed the traffic, and see
the request send first ack/syn -> syn -> rst
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2106 [13:27:01] <Kaylas> do you have any tips about this action?
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2155 [13:50:11] <g00se1> Why on earth does NM configure and
'connect' an Ethernet port that's not even connected
to the network? Because it's actually (i'm pretty sure)
knocking my real (wireless) connection offline unless i disable
Ethernet!
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2159 [13:52:12] <Akuli> i have currently network-manager running
with a wireless and wired connection at the same time
2160 [13:52:20] <g00se1> Hang on, i think it might be a
managed/unmanaged reversion thing
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2162 [13:52:37] <Akuli> the wired one shares the internet to other
computers
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2182 [14:04:23] <g00se1> It's to do with
/etc/network/interfaces and NM management. According to the docs,
setting managed=true in NetworkManager.conf should make it managed
by NM. The docs don't quite say what the consequences are of
having the traditional config in /etc/network/interfaces _as well_
though
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2187 [14:06:20] <g00se1> My experience answers: "not
good". I think it probably better to break with the past and
get rid of the config from /etc/network/interfaces
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2195 [14:08:04] <th0r> g00se1: if you are running jessie I
don't think interfaces is in play. network config if set by
dhcpcd.conf
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2197 [14:08:57] <th0r> g00se1: unless debian jessie is different
from raspbian jessie.
2198 [14:09:08] <g00se1> I am, since yesterday. I had the same
bork in wheezy though
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2202 [14:11:13] <th0r> g00se1: It took me a while to get static
ips in raspbian. Finally found a website that explained the change.
For desktops I still set it in network manager, but servers are done
in dhcpcd.conf
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2209 [14:13:03] <th0r> g00se1: another option...if all you want is
static, is to remove or disable dhcpcd. The interfaces works as
expected.
2210 [14:13:13] <th0r> Then
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2215 [14:15:55] <th0r> g00se1: and I believe if you make any
changes to interfaces then NM no longer functions
2216 [14:15:59] <g00se1> poettering about with things can break
them
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2218 [14:16:27] <th0r> g00se1: but that is how a lot is learned.
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2222 [14:18:06] <g00se1> th0r: i think i'm going to reboot
with my nuked interfaces file and hopefully all will work instead of
my wireless nic getting knocked out. brb
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2224 [14:18:24] <r0ck> hi, how can i forward a port from my
raspbian dmz host to some local network ip and port?
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2226 [14:19:16] <th0r> r0ck: iptables
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2231 [14:21:23] <r0ck> th0r: but my raspbian isnt a router
2232 [14:21:34] <r0ck> it just got dmz'ed to all traffic
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2238 [14:22:41] * g00se1 finds that a lot better. 'Ethernet
Network' is now showing as disconnected
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2242 [14:23:26] <th0r> r0ck: since it is all local network I think
you could get away with doing it in the pi, but usually it is done
in the network router. Not knowing your network...can
2243 [14:23:40] <th0r> colan't say much more
2244 [14:23:49] <g00se1> Anyone else find in jessie xfce you
can't any longer reboot without separately logging out first,
or am i missing something ...
2245 [14:23:52] <th0r> (can't)
2246 [14:24:06] <r0ck> thanks th0r
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2252 [14:26:31] <th0r> g00se1: I have noticed that halt
doesn't work completely from the cli, but haven't had any
problems with reboot
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2277 [14:36:41] <g00se1> Yes i too have noticed that. I'm
trying poweroff instead
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2299 [14:46:30] <xrogaan> It's because you don't ask the
software to poweroff, just halt the system.
2300 [14:46:45] <xrogaan> right?
2301 [14:47:44] <Hello71> that's how it's *always*
worked.
2302 [14:47:55] <Hello71> and you probably need to install polkit.
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2304 [14:49:19] <TestingIRC> this is a mad house
2305 [14:49:22] <TestingIRC> let me out of here
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2344 [15:09:26] <basic6_> how do you configure isc-dhcp-server to
serve virtualbox interfaces? it won't start on boot because
those interfaces are down and don't have an ip assigned
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2422 [15:52:10] <blawiz> is there a name for sorting chars before
numbers? (eg in 'sort')
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2430 [15:56:16] <JustinHitla> any suggestions of a local denial of
service attacks on linux, that are related to hardening system, or
some links ? but more "userland" attack vectors, without
any low level exploitation, say if filesystem can have only 1000000
files, if you create so many no one can create anymore, or you can
make programm that just uses "malloc(10000000000)" to
allocate all rum and sits here without quitting, or,
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2432 [15:56:21] <JustinHitla> also, fork bomb, so I mean abusing
resources, HDD,RAM,CPU,NET, that sort of attacks
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2435 [15:57:21] <JustinHitla> or is it as simple as setting ulimit
to low values and no one will do anything then ?
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2438 [15:57:54] <n4dir> you want to attack or you want to avoid
others attack you?
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2468 [16:11:53] <JustinHitla> n4dir: I want to attack for
pentesting and check if its possible
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2470 [16:13:00] <n4dir> well, i don't know the names, but if
you do apt-cache search, you will find quite a few tools.
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2472 [16:13:57] <nano_python> Isn't Kali Linux just Debian +
pentesting tools?
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2475 [16:15:07] <n4dir> nano_python: as far i can tell yes, but
(again as far i can tell) besides metasploit most you will find in
debian too
2476 [16:15:42] <n4dir> but yeah, probably a good idea to check
what they have installed
2477 [16:16:15] <n4dir> assuming apt-cache search
<searchterm> isn't helpful (i recall i found a lot ).
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2479 [16:17:48] <n4dir> i would probably do it the other way
around though. Say by looking here:
replaced-url
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2488 [16:23:13] <koniiiik> Hey people, does anyone have any idea
how to disable systemd timers installed by packages?
2489 [16:24:03] <koniiiik> Use case: I have certbot set up with a
custom cronjob that takes care of etckeeper, restarting affected
services, and whatnot, and it works wonderfully, but at some point,
the official packages have started to ship with a timer that
completely bypasses all of this, and makes a lot of mess on my
system.
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2494 [16:25:08] <dutchfish> koniiiik, for a primer on timers
(systemd)
replaced-url
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2496 [16:25:36] <dutchfish> koniiiik, remember that within Debian,
most timers are installed with the package, disabling them can break
things
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2501 [16:26:56] <dutchfish> koniiiik, some have those as
configurable option with the dpkg-reconfigure system; alot is still
in development for the next release.
2502 [16:27:36] <dutchfish> koniiiik, i hope this will do
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2508 [16:30:35] <koniiiik> I don't understand this system at
all – I have already run systemctl disable certbot.timer weeks
ago, and systemctl status certbot.timer says that it is loaded,
disabled, active and waiting, and apparently it still keeps
triggering.
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2518 [16:33:50] <dutchfish> koniiiik, delve in [wants] by that
service. Disabling is not the same as unloading the main service.
2519 [16:34:18] <dutchfish> koniiiik, a timer probably is [wanted]
by the main service.
2520 [16:34:19] <Guest45633> Is it possible to revert/downgrade
everything installed to whatever was installed on Nov 20th?
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2524 [16:35:09] <koniiiik> dutchfish: There's a
WantedBy=timers.target in the [Install] section of that timer.
2525 [16:35:20] <dutchfish> koniiiik, there you go ...
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2527 [16:35:52] <koniiiik> Ah, systemctl mask is what I'm
after.
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2529 [16:36:12] <dutchfish> koniiiik, that too, read the systemd
manual.
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2532 [16:36:37] <dutchfish> koniiiik, its not that hard, just
different then in past using crobjobs.
2533 [16:36:42] <Guest45633> su
2534 [16:36:46] <dutchfish> cronjobs*
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2544 [16:38:03] <koniiiik> dutchfish: I was just confused by
systemctl disable certbot.timer doing *something*, but that
something wasn't to disable the timer.
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2547 [16:38:59] <koniiiik> So I'm just confused by there
being multiple ways of disabling things with systemd, which work in
different ways, and sometimes, some of them don't work.
2548 [16:39:36] <dutchfish> koniiiik, you should now be able to
figure it out, as an excersize, good luck.
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2551 [16:39:57] <koniiiik> Yeah, already did, thanks.
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2553 [16:40:03] <dutchfish> yw
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2558 [16:43:39] <Guest45633> exit
2559 [16:44:01] <dvs> /brexit
2560 [16:44:21] <tecuzin> fail ^^
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2570 [16:47:03] <t4nk273> how to get a wristwatch with LDC display
to drive an 7-segment display?
2571 [16:47:34] <t4nk273> how to get a wristwatch with LCD display
to drive an 7-segment display?
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2576 [16:52:20] <BeautifulBash> How do I install the PHP7 package
for php-pgsql on Jessie?
2577 [16:52:28] <BeautifulBash> Seems to only be available under
Sid and Stretch
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2580 [16:52:47] <rick16> Hello!
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2582 [16:53:34] <nkuttler> ,v php7
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2584 [16:53:35] <judd> No package named 'php7' was found
in amd64.
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2587 [16:54:14] <rick16> Anyone here using i3?
2588 [16:54:18] <nkuttler> ,v php7.0
2589 [16:54:19] <judd> Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- sid: 7.0.12-1;
stretch: 7.0.12-1; sid: 7.0.13-1
2590 [16:54:26] <nkuttler> BeautifulBash: right
2591 [16:54:30] <BeautifulBash> well, its just php on Jessie
2592 [16:54:36] <BeautifulBash> thats for php7
2593 [16:54:51] <nkuttler> BeautifulBash: what do you mean?
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2597 [16:55:38] <BeautifulBash> sorry not being very clear. PHP 7
is in Jessie under just php*
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2600 [16:55:55] <BeautifulBash> but my issue is, there isnt yet a
php-pgsql package for PHP 7.0 nkuttler
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2603 [16:56:10] <BeautifulBash> it only exists under stretch and
sid
2604 [16:56:21] <nkuttler> BeautifulBash: jessie has php5
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2606 [16:56:36] <BeautifulBash> oh... Its telling me that my
installed version is php7
2607 [16:56:48] <maziar> i have 64 core CPU, what is the best way
and multi-core way to decompress 500GB that is compressed with XZ ,
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2609 [16:56:58] <nkuttler> BeautifulBash: php --version, dpkg -S
`which php`
2610 [16:57:02] <BeautifulBash> this is a Docker container mind
you
2611 [16:57:09] <nkuttler> ...
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2613 [16:57:28] <nkuttler> BeautifulBash: your docker container
could run any linux distro
2614 [16:57:38] <BeautifulBash> I know for a fact this container
is running Jessie though
2615 [16:57:50] <nkuttler> BeautifulBash: php --version, dpkg -S
`which php`
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2617 [16:58:30] <BeautifulBash> nkuttler,
replaced-url
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2620 [16:58:53] <nkuttler> BeautifulBash: /usr/local/bin/php is
not from debian
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2622 [16:59:08] <BeautifulBash> Oh, right. I just assumed it
was... Thanks
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2624 [16:59:20] <nkuttler> BeautifulBash: debian never uses
/usr/local/
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2627 [16:59:39] <nkuttler> BeautifulBash: it could be an image
that's based on jessie and pulls in third party repos or
anything.
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2632 [17:02:01] <maziar> i have 64 core CPU, what is the best way
and multi-core way to decompress 500GB that is compressed with XZ ?
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2636 [17:03:18] <gshrikant> How do I modify PolicyKit defaults
needed to suspend/hibernate the system? Current defaults under
`/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy` are set
to 'auth_admin_keep', which I believe causes a popup when
I try to suspend while closing the laptop lid.
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2638 [17:03:54] <jolt> maziar: Probably with something like
replaced-url
2639 [17:04:12] <gshrikant> I added 10-enable-suspend.rules file
using a template from the Arch wiki (under
/usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d/):
replaced-url
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2641 [17:04:14] <maziar> jolt how to use it for decompression ?
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2643 [17:04:29] <jolt> maziar: it says there, right on the page.
you need to install it firsth though
2644 [17:04:29] <Artemis3> maziar, man xz shows the -T option
(threads) "Specify the maximum number of worker threads to use.
The default is the number of available CPU cores."
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2649 [17:05:43] <gshrikant> It doesn't seem to work all the
time - I am running xfce 4.12.1 with xfpm handling the
suspend/hibernate events (also verified through xfconf-query and
systemd-inhibit).
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2651 [17:07:06] <Artemis3> maziar, but i think your bottleneck is
more likely the disk io and maybe ram since xz uses it a lot but
more when compressing
2652 [17:07:50] <maziar> Artemis3 i am agree with you, but , my
file is tar.XZ how to use pxz to uncompress it ?
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2657 [17:08:50] <Artemis3> that appears to be a compressor only,
never used it xD
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2662 [17:12:20] <Artemis3> unxz appears to be multithreaded
already
2663 [17:12:45] <maziar> I think compression/decompression is
related to CPU also IO, when i monitor my cp using htop i can see
that only 1 CPU is working !
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2665 [17:13:19] <Artemis3> i would stick to regular xz/unxz if i
were you
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2667 [17:13:48] <Artemis3> oh then you might have an old one
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2673 [17:14:56] <Artemis3> ah nvm maziar "Documented that
threaded decompression hasn't been implemented yet."
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2675 [17:15:04] <maziar> when i use `tar xvf file.tar.xz` it make
my server down, i can not ping it !
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2677 [17:15:23] <maziar> what should i do now ?
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2683 [17:17:21] <maziar> hello
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2685 [17:18:52] <Artemis3> "you can use p7zip, lxz, or pxz to
do threaded compression."
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2687 [17:19:14] <Artemis3> thats a comment from xz dev, have fun
xD
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2691 [17:22:02] <Artemis3> hmm there is a secret way to enable
multithreading in 5.2
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2693 [17:22:36] <Artemis3> "The current implementation of
threading makes the compression slightly worse"
2694 [17:22:44] <maziar> Artemis3 its not matter which way, i just
want to make it multi-core, would you please give me an example for
it ?
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2697 [17:23:05] <Artemis3> "In order to use the multithread
feature, I need to add XZ_DEFAULTS="--threads 0"
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2700 [17:23:15] <Artemis3> "to my environment variable"
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2702 [17:23:21] <Artemis3> so try that xD
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2704 [17:24:24] <Artemis3> there is also pixz
2705 [17:24:36] <Artemis3> "parallel, indexing XZ
compressor/decompressor"
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2707 [17:25:12] <Artemis3> and jessie only has 5.1 anyway
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2710 [17:26:02] <maziar> Artemis3 for a tar file that compressed
with xz algorithm , how can i decompress it on multi-core way ?
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2712 [17:27:08] <Artemis3> "pixz -d foo.tpxz foo.tar"
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2716 [17:29:35] <Artemis3> maziar, if you need any more info go
here:
replaced-url
2717 [17:29:56] <maziar> thank you
2718 [17:30:18] <Artemis3> just apt-get install pixz then untar or
see if you can pipe it
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2722 [17:31:37] <Artemis3> ah yes there is a sample there to pipe
to tar x
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2809 [18:22:07] <tehfreakjoe> hey hey
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2811 [18:22:26] <tehfreakjoe> I bought today a turtle beach rcon
50 headset with mic , well mic isnt working
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2813 [18:22:33] <tehfreakjoe> ..
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2815 [18:23:51] <jelly> tehfreakjoe: is this thing usb-connected?
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2817 [18:24:03] <mtn> tehfreakjoe: already used pavucontrol to
check your settings/ devices?
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2819 [18:24:23] <tehfreakjoe> no jack 3.5
2820 [18:24:34] <tehfreakjoe> is it needed pavucontrol?
2821 [18:24:39] <tehfreakjoe> i can install yy
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2824 [18:25:14] <rly> How can I set the browser to be used for
Debian 8 Icedove?
2825 [18:25:39] <jelly> tehfreakjoe: it's an essential tool
when your sound setup works with pulseaudio, like it does in gnome
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2827 [18:25:47] <rly> I already set it via user.js, the configured
one seems to be x-replaced-url
2828 [18:25:48] <tehfreakjoe> sure thing
2829 [18:25:49] <tehfreakjoe> tks
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2831 [18:25:59] <rly> I also have no idea which one is being
launched right now.
2832 [18:26:34] <rly> The instructions on
replaced-url
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2842 [18:33:31] <rly> Does anyone know which systemcall icedove
uses to open an external browser?
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2851 [18:39:45] <rly> about: pages are being opened with the
proper browser, but other links are not. Genius!
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2862 [18:41:53] <CrowX-> I have some cron jobs set up in
/etc/crontab and they executed well, using the system's clock.
But after I changed the system's timezone, they still use the
UTC clock instead of the system's timezone
2863 [18:42:07] <CrowX-> how can I make them use the timezone
instead of utc?
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2870 [18:44:46] <JyZyXEL> interesting that debians default
grsecurity paxctld.conf comes with rules for non-free software like
Skype and Chrome, yet it lacks rules such as plasma-desktop and kwin
which effectively make the desktop segfault :P
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2883 [18:50:07] <jelly> JyZyXEL: did you file a bug report?
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2886 [18:51:22] <JyZyXEL> jelly: once ill get my desktop fully
running under the -grsec kernel, i was thinking i might
2887 [18:51:47] <JyZyXEL> though i'm not sure if anyone would
even be interested
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2898 [18:55:55] <jelly> last time I tried it it was a core library
for kde that was at fault, don't remember the specifics but it
was either a Qt thing or a kde thing, which meant _every_ app built
against it would have issues, which then meant setting up rules per
app was the wrong way to do it
2899 [18:56:08] <jelly> the library ought to be fixed instead
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2904 [18:58:58] <jelly> JyZyXEL: it's probably not worth to
make kde4 in jessie work, when plasma5 in stretch is completely
different
2905 [18:59:14] <JyZyXEL> it was pretty simple
2906 [18:59:32] <JyZyXEL> (already made it work)
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2909 [19:01:12] <JyZyXEL> mostly one just needs to add a bunch of
MPROTECT flags for binaries that are denied
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2911 [19:02:34] <jelly> sure, but that means most of kde
doesn't get to enjoy a couple significant protection features
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2914 [19:04:03] <JyZyXEL> yeah, i've had to PAX_MPROTECT
plasma-desktop, kwin, kmail, kate and kdeinit4 so far
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2919 [19:06:13] <JyZyXEL> and there is a lot more stuff that can
not function with this memory protection stuff
2920 [19:06:48] <jelly> everything that has a JIT basically
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2923 [19:08:08] <JyZyXEL> yes, pretty every python app, java,
firefox, chromium, pulseaudio, vlc, wine, qemu
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2925 [19:08:41] <JyZyXEL> but you can at least restrict them with
apparmor and contain them with firejail
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2996 [19:38:14] <curiousx> Hi! there
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3006 [19:41:57] <jscoder> curiousx: not yet, but we're
working on it
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3009 [19:43:03] <curiousx> I need some help trying to get a start
up init script at boot, i'm running a gamer server, and
"Urban Terror" one, along with "ts3" and
"spunky bot", the game and the ts3 server already start at
boot, but couldn't get the "spunky bot" to start at
boot, cuz it have to start after the game, cuz reads Urban
Terror's log file, but couldn't get it to work =(
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3013 [19:43:45] <jscoder> curiousx: I don't know about all
that stuff, but I know a bit about the init.d boot scripts
3014 [19:43:56] <Howdy> Today I will attempt AGP Pass thru
3015 [19:43:58] <curiousx> i've try playing with insserv
headers and stuff but can't, could you guys please help me ?
i'm running Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l server
3016 [19:44:13] <Howdy> Mouse has not friezed in a few days
3017 [19:44:14] <monsune> Howdy have fun :) lots of it
3018 [19:44:34] <Howdy> Oh OHHHH sounds like it could be lots n
lots of troulbe
3019 [19:44:42] <Howdy> if it works then I am going to format
& install XEN 4.7
3020 [19:44:45] <curiousx> jscoder: do you want me to send you my
scripts to see if there is something wrong ?
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3022 [19:44:54] <Howdy> Then get some much needed gaming oging
3023 [19:44:56] <Howdy> going
3024 [19:45:02] <Howdy> I need to shoot some Naizs
3025 [19:45:03] <jscoder> all you gotta do to make something start
at boot is put it in a script in /etc/init.d/ and then link it using
update-rc.d
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3027 [19:45:29] <jscoder> curiousx: can you start it successfully
manually?>
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3030 [19:47:29] <curiousx> jscoder: yeah it start manually like a
champ, and yeah i used "update-rc.d" but as it has to
start after the game i use insserv + lsb so it read the header and
start after the game, but i suspect i'm doing something wrong
idk
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3039 [19:48:59] <jscoder> the rc links have a numbering to control
order of startup and you can make the script check to make sure
something is running
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3041 [19:49:38] <curiousx> Oh! how could i do that ?
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3046 [19:51:46] <jscoder> curiousx: as I recall debian boots to
runlevel 2 by default, which would be /etc/rc2.d/ you'll notice
all the link names begin with a number.. thats the boot sequence
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3049 [19:52:23] <curiousx> yeah, S for start and K for kill :p
3050 [19:52:24] <jscoder> curiousx: the system is dead simple,
scripts go in /etc/init.d/ and they're linked with S for start
or K for kill, then a number
3051 [19:52:39] <jscoder> to /etc/rc#.d/ where # is the sequence
number
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3055 [19:54:43] <curiousx> but, i used defaults, i mean :
update-rc urban defaults and for the bot: update-rc spunky defaults
so uses 2345 for S and 016 for K, so how could i say to start after
the game ? -.-
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3057 [19:55:14] <jscoder> rename the link, change the numbers
3058 [19:55:15] <jscoder> heh
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3061 [19:55:54] <jscoder> if need be, put a conditional like an if
statement in the script to check and see if the process is actually
running if you want it to be certain
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3076 [19:58:15] <curiousx> Hm, good idea about the if statement,
so bad idk about scripting, i'm going to have to search in the
world wide web for an example :p
3077 [19:58:20] <curiousx> jscoder:
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3079 [19:58:45] <jscoder> curiousx: well you can type "help
if" in a terminal and it will show you
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3081 [19:58:52] <julius_> hi
3082 [19:58:54] <jscoder> also "help test"
3083 [19:59:00] <curiousx> ok
3084 [19:59:04] <curiousx> Hello
3085 [19:59:29] <jscoder> see also #bash
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3089 [20:00:44] <jscoder> your question isn't really debian
specific you serve yourself best to seek general bash help in #bash
or such. since the stuff starts manually, the game is working fine,
its just system config
3090 [20:01:06] <jscoder> since you understand the basics of the
init system in debian, you're just needing admin/scripting help
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3092 [20:02:07] <curiousx> damn! help test scared me the hell out
of me =( going for an online example better :p
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3099 [20:03:13] <jscoder> hah.. you probably wanna just test the
output of ps
3100 [20:03:32] <julius_> i would like to install a python module
(lxml) via pip, when compiling it says: #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find
-lz and fails shortly after, which packet am i missing?
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3103 [20:04:15] <curiousx> ik about it, i do: ps aux | grep
something
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3107 [20:04:29] <curiousx> i recently knew pstree :p
3108 [20:05:28] <jscoder> ah, there is a pgrep..
3109 [20:06:07] <curiousx> xD ik ik
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3117 [20:09:59] <jscoder> curiousx: if [ -z $(pgrep irssi) ] ;then
echo "is not running"; else echo "is running";
fi
3118 [20:10:18] <jscoder> curiousx: seems to work to see if my irc
client irssi is running or not
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3122 [20:11:21] <jscoder> so you could replace the echo "is
running" with a command to start the program and the other echo
"is not running" with an exit 1 or echo "error
msg" or something
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3124 [20:12:29] <jscoder> curiousx: fyi, the -z is usage of test
to check if the string is non-zero, $() runs the command inside and
saves the output as a string
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3126 [20:13:07] <jscoder> and of course pgrep will output the pid
of the process if its running or nothing if its not
3127 [20:13:42] <curiousx> Oh! great
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3129 [20:14:17] <jscoder> curiousx: and the ; can be replaced with
newlines too.. you only need them when running it all on one line
3130 [20:14:19] <curiousx> Thanks jscoder, gotta feed my belly
now, then i'll try it
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3141 [20:17:08] <jscoder> I have a laptop running at 1600x1200 and
an external display extending the desktop running at 1440x900, if I
move vlc to the external display the video is distorted (doesnt
extend all the way to the right side)
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3148 [20:19:19] <curiousx> Mmm... sry, i never had to deal with
dual monitors set ups =(
3149 [20:19:34] <jscoder> it would appear it does it even if
they're both the same resolution
3150 [20:19:35] <julius_> ah yes -lz is zlib
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3163 [20:23:47] <tehfreakjoe> hihihihihi i am back xD
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3166 [20:24:49] <tehfreakjoe> guys i bought a recon 50 turtle
beach, it bringhs a deatachable mic, but debian doesnt detect it :(
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3168 [20:25:07] <tehfreakjoe> anyone know any soluction /
workaround
3169 [20:25:08] <tehfreakjoe> ?
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3171 [20:26:12] <tehfreakjoe> its a single 3.5 jack
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3178 [20:27:39] <tehfreakjoe> 3 pole
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3181 [20:28:04] <tehfreakjoe> 4 soz
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3193 [20:35:25] <nano_python> tehfreakjoe, What desktop env are
you running, and does it have pulseaudio?
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3199 [20:37:03] <tehfreakjoe> yes it does
3200 [20:37:10] <tehfreakjoe> thank you for your replay
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3203 [20:37:47] <tehfreakjoe> ohh sowwy
3204 [20:37:50] <tehfreakjoe> it doesnt
3205 [20:37:53] <tehfreakjoe> only pavucontrol
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3207 [20:38:12] <nano_python> pavucontrol would have installed
pulseaudio
3208 [20:38:24] <tehfreakjoe> i was missing things
3209 [20:38:31] <tehfreakjoe> now all intalled
3210 [20:38:51] <tehfreakjoe> its just plug'n'play now ?
3211 [20:39:23] <nano_python> Most headsets are just plug n play
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3218 [20:40:32] <tehfreakjoe> oohh k
3219 [20:40:35] <tehfreakjoe> trying
3220 [20:40:37] <tehfreakjoe> sec.
3221 [20:40:56] <iR0b0t> :D
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3223 [20:42:12] <tehfreakjoe> no dont work
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3227 [20:42:56] <iR0b0t> tehfreakjoe u got no sound?
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3229 [20:43:13] <nano_python> terminal >
"pavucontrol"
3230 [20:43:17] <nano_python> Under input
3231 [20:43:20] <tehfreakjoe> i have sound on Headset, but mic
doesnt work , its a single 3.5jack 4 pole
3232 [20:43:22] <nano_python> Make sure it's not muted
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3234 [20:43:58] <nano_python> Adjust levels as needed, I find they
are rather low by default.
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3238 [20:44:54] <tehfreakjoe> the port has "analogic"
and "mic"
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3240 [20:45:02] <tehfreakjoe> the port has "internal
analogic" and "mic"
3241 [20:45:16] <tehfreakjoe> but mic acts like internal analogic
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3244 [20:45:55] <tehfreakjoe> how do i access the kernel
3245 [20:45:56] <tehfreakjoe> ?
3246 [20:46:14] <tehfreakjoe> it might be an option discarded or
something
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3248 [20:46:40] <tehfreakjoe> rofl
3249 [20:46:44] <tehfreakjoe> .../usr/src/linux doesnt seem to
exist just headers
3250 [20:46:56] <tehfreakjoe> im new to debian btw
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3253 [20:47:18] <monsune> tehfreakjoe most of people here already
noticed that i guess :)
3254 [20:47:58] <tehfreakjoe> mosune :P:P:P
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3256 [20:48:46] <tehfreakjoe> Question : Does debian support jack
3.5 headsets with one cord only ? 4 pole
3257 [20:49:19] <tehfreakjoe> by default
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3259 [20:50:00] <nano_python> I have my headset plugged in right
now, and I can see both output and input. The microphone works fine,
and both are connected via the same cable.
3260 [20:50:42] <tehfreakjoe> nano_python, Are you using same
headset as me ?
3261 [20:51:07] <nano_python> No, I'm using a Kingston Hyper
X
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3263 [20:51:11] <tehfreakjoe> ohh ok
3264 [20:51:55] <tehfreakjoe> did you edited by any change your
kernel ? nano_python ?
3265 [20:52:27] <nano_python> No, because it has nothing to do
with the kernel.
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3267 [20:53:24] <tehfreakjoe> im using ROG asus gaming GL702VM
3268 [20:53:27] <tehfreakjoe> does it help?
3269 [20:53:36] <tehfreakjoe> it has only one jack port for
headset and mic :(
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3271 [20:55:02] <tehfreakjoe> on pavucontrol says both selection
internal audio input
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3304 [21:05:17] <_abc_> What is this movement to /usr in testing?
All the fsstnd things to be moved under usr with links from the old
places? I read an article on it, is it really a good idea?
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3325 [21:10:48] <nano_python> _abc_,
replaced-url
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3327 [21:11:19] <nano_python> That is pretty well written, and
covers most of the conversation around it.
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3334 [21:13:24] <_abc_> I read it, but I see pain. I work a lot
with tiny devices running openwrt which is set up like that.
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3337 [21:13:59] <_abc_> It is not a good place to be in. Also the
business of /lib/modules/* being on a secondary mount is going to go
cause some real pain
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3376 [21:26:43] <winsen> hi all
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3403 [21:38:35] <winsen> does anyone know why I can't install
debina from deina netistall iso, nor from debian cd iso on yumi
multiboot
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3405 [21:39:08] <winsen> which version would you recommand as
debian pro Lightweight Desktop Environment?
3406 [21:39:32] <ompaul> lxde
3407 [21:39:48] <ompaul> however not being able to install ...
what is yumi multiboot?
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3409 [21:39:52] <ompaul> I don't know this thing
3410 [21:40:43] <ompaul> something to do with windows? ... not how
I'd try to install debian
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3418 [21:41:24] <elichai2> hey
3419 [21:41:26] <ompaul> I don't use windows on this machine
- so I guess I'm going to less helpful to you than others.
3420 [21:41:44] <elichai2> how can I fix a live persistance with
packages problem that crash when it starts?
3421 [21:42:01] <elichai2> (I can't chroot into
persistence/rw because not all the linux stuff is in there)
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3426 [21:46:57] <winsen> ompaul: one of utilities for creating
Live USB.
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3429 [21:47:14] <winsen> ompaul: anyway thanks
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3441 [21:50:56] <CuteMeOwnThroat> do you know if it's
possible for more than one process to ptrace(2) another procesS?
3442 [21:51:02] <CuteMeOwnThroat> it seems like it's not
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3445 [21:51:37] <CuteMeOwnThroat> s/process/thread/
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3450 [21:54:48] <CuteMeOwnThroat> basically I'd just like to
collect process (/thread) statistics at process end
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3458 [21:57:08] <ompaul> Willis: there is a debian way to create
an installer
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3461 [21:58:36] <ompaul> winsen:
replaced-url
3462 [21:58:44] <ompaul> Willis: sorry about that
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3464 [21:58:50] <ompaul> bad tabbing
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3477 [22:03:01] <Asulil_> ompaul: were're not talking about
the samething. anyway thanks
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3492 [22:08:04] <maziar> what is this error :"
kernel:[10923.348291] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#70 stuck for 72s!
[kworker/70:1:451]"
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3501 [22:10:22] <ompaul> maziar: uname -a might tell us more about
which problem you are looking at
3502 [22:10:48] <maziar> ompaul of course
3503 [22:10:51] <maziar> ompaul Darwin Maziars-MBP 16.1.0 Darwin
Kernel Version 16.1.0: Thu Oct 13 21:26:57 PDT 2016;
root:xnu-3789.21.3~60/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
3504 [22:11:06] <maziar> ompaul sorry
3505 [22:11:14] <maziar> ompaul wait a second
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3508 [22:12:47] <maziar> ompaul this is a VPS on ESXi
3509 [22:13:03] <maziar> ompaul and now its dead i should reboot
it
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3513 [22:14:05] <ompaul> maziar: that's a phone kernel so
it's not really debian
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3516 [22:14:31] <maziar> ompaul no wait i had a mistake
3517 [22:14:34] <ompaul> also if you are subscribing to a service
we can't say what they changed so other than saying you have a
problem
3518 [22:14:47] <ompaul> we are not really useful to you
3519 [22:14:59] <ompaul> that's for whomsoever did the
compile
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3522 [22:16:58] * maziar ompaul Linux ST1 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
3.16.36-1+deb8u2 (2016-10-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
3523 [22:18:09] <ompaul> when you reboot go check your syslog file
3524 [22:18:31] <maziar> ompaul now i rebooted, and now i can
check it
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3530 [22:22:57] <maziar> ompaul i should mention that i have no
service on it
replaced-url
3531 [22:23:05] <maziar> ompaul this is my syslog
replaced-url
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3547 [22:28:46] <ompaul> maziar: are you using RT on a shared
service
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3551 [22:28:59] <tehfreakjoe> guys o bought a asus rog laptop but
they function keys dont work , any app that enables them?
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3554 [22:29:19] <maziar> ompaul sorry i dont know what RT is
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3556 [22:30:26] <ompaul> realtime
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3559 [22:30:54] <ompaul> maziar: did you change kernels from the
kernel your service provider gave you?
3560 [22:31:23] <maziar> ompaul no i don't change any thing
on it
3561 [22:31:55] <maziar> ompaul let me tell you some thing
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3564 [22:32:41] <maziar> I have ESXi 6 and i have so many Debian
machine on it, i get this error on must of virtual Debian servers
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3570 [22:33:45] <tehfreakjoe> guys any idea how to configure the
FN (F1...F12) keys in a laptop called asus rog ?
3571 [22:33:52] <ompaul> so prehaps if you take it we don't
see this problem on a regular basis in channel then at least one
explaination - most people don't have it and the common issue
you have there is vmware
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3573 [22:34:11] <ompaul> maziar: ^^ it's only an idea
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3576 [22:34:45] <tehfreakjoe> guys any idea how to configure the
FN (F1...F12) keys in a laptop called asus rog ?
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3579 [22:35:15] <tehfreakjoe> to rise up volume brightness etc....
retoiluminate the keyboard...nothig work
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3581 [22:35:54] <maziar> ompaul i dont think so
3582 [22:36:43] <Lanre> Hey guys
3583 [22:37:14] <maziar> what is this process : 589 root 20 0 0 0
0 D 21.7 0.0 0:21.90 kworker/u145:1
3584 [22:37:16] <Lanre> I'm having a problem trying to
install a Debian OS in my Virtual Box
3585 [22:37:21] <Lanre> Can anyone give me a hand?
3586 [22:37:34] <maziar> Lanre what is the problem ?
3587 [22:38:27] <Lanre> Well, in the log it appears to be the fact
that, according to Virtualbox, "VT" is disabled in the
BIOS
3588 [22:38:47] <Lanre> I just checked it, and it's enabled
3589 [22:38:54] <Lanre> Still doesn't work
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3592 [22:40:35] <ompaul> maziar: you would need to look at it in
the context of other things that are running
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3594 [22:40:49] <ompaul> that is a facilitator for other processes
3595 [22:40:50] <maziar> ompaul i found the isse
3596 [22:41:00] <maziar> ompaul
3597 [22:41:11] <ompaul> yes
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3600 [22:42:20] <maziar> ompaul for example if i run a command
like "tar" on a VPS and i also run a "tar" on an
other VPS it will happen !
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3603 [22:43:19] <ompaul> as each vps should be seperate - you have
found your way to the bug - in esx
3604 [22:43:33] <ompaul> now have fun getting VMWARE fixing it
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3609 [22:46:02] <Blueer> i'm dying. i can't fix the
"blocked for more than 120 seconds hung task timeout"
problem on my vms. just switched to a new server with debian stable
and get this on one vm all over the day and one time on another vm 1
hour ago :( help need
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3611 [22:46:14] <Blueer> the complete vm is freezing and only
killing it helps, but doesn't fix it.
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3625 [22:54:22] <CuteMeOwnThroat> Blueer, you're letting
anyone who might want to answer guess an awful lot there…
what's printing the error… the host, the client-os, the
virtualization software; what virtualization software is it, what
actually happens when you get the error, what ARE host and client OS
systems, etc, etc
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3631 [22:58:43] <Blueer> don't want to spam to much ***
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3633 [22:58:51] <Blueer> thought it's some irc rule
3634 [22:59:37] <Blueer> both os (host+vm) are debian stable
(newest updates). host has libvirt/qemu/kvm debian stable packages.
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3636 [23:00:34] <Blueer> happens: vm is freezing completly, ssh
timeout, 2 minutes later the 120 seconds kernel hung task timeout
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3640 [23:01:15] <Blueer> the timeout is only shown at the vnc
(tunneled from the host). no errors in the logs (host+vm)
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3644 [23:02:03] <Blueer> only getting some vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr:
0x3f6 errors on startup of the vm, but this is normal since years
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3647 [23:03:25] <Blueer> thought it was some converting error from
qed to qcow2, but i didn't converted it from qed, only freeing
space with zeroing and converting from qcow2 to qcow2 with qemu-img
-C. but this worked for years.
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3653 [23:04:30] <Blueer> just removed "write-through"
disk cache and switched back do cache="none"
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3657 [23:04:59] <Blueer> and i've removed hughpages from the
host and vm
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3660 [23:06:11] <Blueer> and removed the mapped directorys from
the host to the vm
3661 [23:06:36] <Blueer> don't know if there're any
bugs, because not many poeple are using it
3662 [23:07:03] <Blueer> all devices are using libvirt drivers
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3667 [23:08:06] <CuteMeOwnThroat> huh? what's writing the
error out?
3668 [23:08:21] <jhutchins> Blueer: qcow2 is not as mature as some
of the other virtualizers, it may have some glitches that
haven't been worked out.
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3676 [23:12:00] <Blueer> jhebden had qed before and qcow2 since ~8
years, just working fine
3677 [23:12:14] <Blueer> don't want to switch to vmware,
hohoho
3678 [23:12:18] <tehfreakjoe> ppl , backlight of my keyboard since
i switch from windows , doesnt work , why ?
3679 [23:15:01] <tehfreakjoe>
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash pcie_aspm=force
acpi_backlight=vendor”
3680 [23:15:02] <tehfreakjoe> works?
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3687 [23:17:24] <mifritscher> hi
3688 [23:17:46] <mifritscher> I've trouble with the
transition to sha256/512 with an own made repo
3689 [23:18:46] <mifritscher> I get the " InRelease provides
lny weak security infomation" - but this file is both signed
with sha512 and has sha512 hashes for the files
3690 [23:19:20] <mifritscher> how can I fix this?
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3693 [23:19:58] <mifritscher> my key is rsa-4096 btw
3694 [23:20:30] <jhutchins> Blueer: No, I wouldn't recommend
vmware player. Virtualbox is pretty well known and supported.
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3698 [23:21:13] <jhutchins> Blueer: I've been working with
hypervisors for a good ten years now and haven't erver heard of
qcow.
3699 [23:22:26] <jhutchins> Blueer: You could actually be having a
hardware problem or a corrupted image. Be sure to check the logs on
the host & the vm.
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3701 [23:24:25] <monsune> Blueer why do you use qcow2 at all? why
not raw?
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3707 [23:26:43] <Blueer> what i see, that all the vm and host use
very little memmory. so i thought it could be a problem with the
last hughtables setup, but it's disabled now
3708 [23:27:31] <Blueer> jhutchins: there are not erros in the
logs
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3712 [23:28:08] <CuteMeOwnThroat> well, write a bug report?
3713 [23:28:24] <Blueer> monsune: because of less space usage for
many vm at the ssd and features like snapshots, compression and so
on
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3715 [23:28:54] <CuteMeOwnThroat> the question is what package is
even at fault
3716 [23:28:55] <monsune> use zfs for snapshots...
3717 [23:29:16] <CuteMeOwnThroat> zfs under linux isn't
really mature
3718 [23:29:44] <monsune> use whatever works for you :)
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3723 [23:30:20] <tehfreakjoe> i need assitance :P
3724 [23:30:29] <monsune> tehfreakjoe i know
3725 [23:30:38] <tehfreakjoe> backlight of laptop isnt working
since i install debian
3726 [23:30:44] <tehfreakjoe> ;(
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3728 [23:30:50] <CuteMeOwnThroat> at least we have an nfs on top
of a zfs… and … well, not too pleasurable, that is
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3730 [23:31:18] <monsune> i wouldn't touch nfs
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3733 [23:33:22] <CuteMeOwnThroat> well… if you think
sharing files happens by magic… but in this case, that would
actually have worked
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3736 [23:35:21] <monsune> heard of afs?
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3746 [23:38:18] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I was always a
big fan of GNOME 2. If I choose to use mate instead of cinnamon,
will I be disadvantaged in some way? I want to use debian for gcc,
clang, make, bash, Facebook, Twitter, etc.
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3749 [23:39:04] <CuteMeOwnThroat> monsune, was that after the
90ies?
3750 [23:39:12] <bazhang> apart from it looking like gnome2, no
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3755 [23:40:42] <monsune> CuteMeOwnThroat you appearently
don't know what afs is
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3757 [23:41:15] <CuteMeOwnThroat> not really
3758 [23:41:17] <monsune> ...and that it made nfs look like crap -
that's why they released nfsv4
3759 [23:41:40] <monsune>
replaced-url
3760 [23:41:44] <CuteMeOwnThroat> well, nfs *is* crap, always has
been
3761 [23:42:02] <monsune> well nfsv4 is a bit better security wise
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3763 [23:42:15] <Richard_Cavell> Is cinnamon now the leading
desktop environment?
3764 [23:42:27] <CuteMeOwnThroat> I already saw the openafs
packages in debian
3765 [23:42:30] <Richard_Cavell> I was really upset when Ubuntu
went from GNOME 2 to Unity
3766 [23:42:44] <CuteMeOwnThroat> still haven't seen any big
installation use it
3767 [23:42:57] <CuteMeOwnThroat> so no idea how that would look
like in practice
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3769 [23:43:56] <CuteMeOwnThroat> in our case, we could have used
lustre, as that was to be used anyway
3770 [23:43:57] <monsune> because most people don't care to
look for an alternative
3771 [23:44:21] <CuteMeOwnThroat> because there was none
3772 [23:44:41] <vlt> Hello. After rebooting the execution of
commands like `lvs` is really fast but after some event every lvm
operation takes a little more than 1,500 ms. Any idea what could
cause this?
3773 [23:44:59] <CSmith-> I'm trying to set up a protected
directory on apache webserver. I have set up the config to read from
a dbm file, but as I will have a few directories I need to be able
to manage by groups. I have used htdbm from apache2-utils to create
a dbm file but that doesn't support groups, so i tried to find
the dbmmanage perl program that also comes packaged with it
(according to packages.debian) ....
3774 [23:45:00] <CSmith-> but i can't find it. so does anyone
know where dbmmanage is or if there is another tool that reads &
writes dbm and supports groups?
3775 [23:45:03] <CuteMeOwnThroat> plus, I guess if you're
connecting a couple of hundred machines your room for
experimentation is pretty limited
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3777 [23:45:27] <monsune> CuteMeOwnThroat please, read up on afs
and learn about its security, scalability, etc.
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3782 [23:46:15] <CuteMeOwnThroat> ain't nobody got time for
that… but I'll have a look out if I see it somewhere
3783 [23:46:42] <monsune> btw no issues with afs on zfs that i
know of
3784 [23:47:16] <CuteMeOwnThroat> zfs in itself is an
issue…
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3786 [23:47:32] <CuteMeOwnThroat> like… quota command not
working because it implements its own damn quota
3787 [23:47:37] <CuteMeOwnThroat> stuff like that
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3790 [23:50:58] <CuteMeOwnThroat> CSmith-, I don't see it
either
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3793 [23:51:40] <CSmith-> is there an alternative tool that can
manage dbm files and supports groups?
3794 [23:51:54] <monsune> CuteMeOwnThroat when was the last time
you tried zfs?
3795 [23:51:56] <CuteMeOwnThroat> I only see the html docu page in
apache2-doc
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3797 [23:52:10] <CuteMeOwnThroat> monsune, Friday.
3798 [23:52:22] <monsune> linux or freebsd?
3799 [23:52:59] <CuteMeOwnThroat> linux… but…
kidding. we have a $HOME via nfs on top of zfs… obviously
it's been set up 2 years ago, not Friday
3800 [23:53:04] <CuteMeOwnThroat> and we'll keep using it
3801 [23:53:13] <monsune>
ftp://ftp.maths.tcd.ie/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-CVS/replaced-url
3802 [23:53:22] <monsune> it does work and i tested that long ago
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3804 [23:54:06] <CuteMeOwnThroat> CSmith-, it's just a perl
script… if you think you need it, just get it from somewhere?
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3807 [23:54:27] <CSmith-> I have looked but can't find it
anywhere
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3809 [23:55:11] <monsune> CSmith- why not ask in #apache?
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3811 [23:55:24] <CuteMeOwnThroat> monsune, quotas work, but not
with the linux quota command… because … I guess
bsd-style (solaris) quotas and linux quotas are different
3812 [23:55:25] <CSmith-> I'll take a look, thanks monsune
3813 [23:55:33] <monsune> sure CSmith-
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3819 [23:56:15] <exedore6> Is networkmanager or
/etc/network/interfaces considered the ‘debian’ way
these days?
3820 [23:56:28] <CuteMeOwnThroat> CSmith-, there's a
./support/dbmmanage.in in the apache sources that come with the
package
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3826 [23:59:25] <CuteMeOwnThroat> CSmith-, seems to me like only
the #! in the first line is being adjusted to fit the location of
perl on that system
3827 [23:59:45] <CSmith-> yeh i found it online. thanks
3828 [23:59:46] <CuteMeOwnThroat> CSmith-, and I guess it's
not in the debian package because it's in support/
3829 [23:59:51] <CSmith-> probably
3830 [23:59:57] <monsune> exedore6 use /etc/network/interfaces
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