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0 [00:00:52] <urand0m> `Kevin, incase something happens when i
reboot and i have no GUI can someone write me inststructions on how
to connect to my hotspot from the shell?
1 [00:01:09] <urand0m> i have irssi so i can come back to irc
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5 [00:01:35] <flicflac> grown ups 2 comedy
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10 [00:03:24] <`Kevin> urand0m: i dont know if you are using
network manager or what to configure your wifi .. if so you might
have some problems removing gnome
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13 [00:03:48] <urand0m> `Kevin, i think im using network manager
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15 [00:04:02] <`Kevin> you may want to look into using wpa
supplicant or something else that is non gui
16 [00:04:24] <miss0r> I just had to do a reboot on a server
100miles away... sigh
17 [00:04:26] <urand0m> `Kevin, im not sure if i should remove
all of gnome? i think im using the gnome-keyring?
18 [00:04:51] <`Kevin> urand0m: i wouldn't until you figure
out your networking
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20 [00:04:56] <urand0m> `Kevin, ive noticed network manager or
something else loads wpa_supplicant on here - i don't know much
about it though
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23 [00:05:40] <`Kevin>
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24 [00:06:12] <jelly> urand0m, if you use xfce, just disable
gnome and kde compatibility in xfce's startup
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26 [00:06:40] <urand0m> jelly, how do i do that?
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31 [00:07:15] <jelly> urand0m, it's somewhere inside
xfce4-settings-manager, maybe session or autostart
32 [00:07:33] <jelly> I don't have an xfce system in front
of me to check
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34 [00:07:43] <flicflac> ooh
35 [00:07:48] <flicflac> coe!
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37 [00:08:11] <jelly> flicflac, do you have a debian support
question?
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42 [00:09:16] <flicflac> There is no red sea at world!
43 [00:09:27] <flicflac> it is benn dissolved in ocean.
44 [00:09:36] <flicflac> been*
45 [00:09:58] <flicflac> said by chadian/z
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47 [00:10:12] <flicflac> applying to kill
48 [00:10:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jelly
49 [00:10:14] *** jelly sets mode: +q *!*@119.152.11.200
50 [00:10:15] <urand0m> jelly, okay i found it
51 [00:10:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o jelly
52 [00:10:29] <urand0m> thanks.. it let me disable that tracker
crap too
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55 [00:12:08] <urand0m> `Kevin, i removed virtualbox, does that
get rid of the drivers it installed too?
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62 [00:14:40] <Dirkson> Hey all. I have a copy of debian
installed with a 'targeted' kernel on one computer, and I
need to move the hard drive to another. Is there any easier way to
do it than just reinstall?
63 [00:15:02] <urand0m> what is gdm.service? gnome display
manager? i removed gdm3 and installed lightdm but systemd-analyze
blame is showing gdm.service in its list
64 [00:15:52] <`Kevin> urand0m: that depends on the post install
script, you would have to look into that in your kernel modules dir
but i wouldn't go poking around there if you do not understand
it well :P
65 [00:16:00] <`Kevin> post uninstall/
66 [00:16:29] <urand0m> `Kevin, okay well ill brb, im gonna
reboot and see what happens
67 [00:16:32] <urand0m> wish me luck
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77 [00:21:28] <urand0m> `Kevin, my computer booted up much
faster, and the login was almost immediate, i did not need to wait
nearly as long
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81 [00:22:07] <user_> cat
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84 [00:22:34] <urand0m> `Kevin, the thing that hangs up the boot
process the longest is when it loads the driver for my graphics card
and tells me to use the non free driver and then it says something
about kvm being disabled in the bios
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89 [00:24:26] <urand0m> `Kevin, did that error get logged to a
file anywhere so i can show you?
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91 [00:25:12] <`Kevin> im familiar with it, its more
informational than anything
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94 [00:27:23] <petn-randall> Dirkson: Change it back to general,
run 'update-initramfs -k all', and you should be able to
boot from another computer with it.
95 [00:27:47] <urand0m> `Kevin, i dont even have a printer, how
do i disable cupsd and cups-browsed from starting with xfce or
linux?
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99 [00:29:01] <miss0r> I am having a serious hard time here.
after a reboot, my VMs are unabled to ping the gateway and the
gateway can't ping them either. nothing works. I Have no idea
what to do by now. Can someone please help me? (host is running
debian, kvm+qwmu. Everything 'should' be setup to run
NAT.)
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104 [00:29:59] <`Kevin> look into systemctl disable
105 [00:30:01] <`Kevin> urand0m:
106 [00:30:09] <`Kevin> anyhow .. going afk
107 [00:30:26] <urand0m> `Kevin, one more question, how do i tell
systemctl to list all services starting with linux?
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112 [00:33:38] <`Kevin> i dont think you like man pages, so look
this over
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113 [00:34:10] <urand0m> `Kevin, i read the manpage for systemctl
word for word earlier
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118 [00:34:59] <TomTomTosch> try systemctl list-units | grep -i
linux
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122 [00:36:51] <urand0m> thank you all for everything you have
taught me today
123 [00:36:58] <urand0m> going to reboot again... brb
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136 [00:42:23] <Dirkson> petn-randall: Thanks!
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177 [01:06:08] <werwe>
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184 [01:07:57] <TomTomTosch> !ops werwe NSFL pics
185 [01:08:03] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: tomtomtosch
complains about: werwe NSFL pics
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188 [01:09:01] <felon-> ...
189 [01:09:16] <werwe> lol
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191 [01:10:11] <logdog1> Hey, after updating my debian stable to
testing my xfce4 screensaver has gone away but instead im getting
logged out after like 5 minutes ( To lightdm ) Do anyone know what
controls this logout?
192 [01:10:55] <DalekSec> logdog1: I presume you now have
'light-locker' installed, and it's not actually
logging out but just flipping to the greeter?
193 [01:11:02] <missmbob> !tell logdog1 about debian-next
194 [01:11:04] <TomTomTosch> logdog1: testing support is over at
#debian-next on irc.debian.org
195 [01:11:08] <missmbob> shit
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197 [01:11:22] <TomTomTosch> ah well x)
198 [01:12:44] <logdog1> Thx guys. hmm ye i get thrown out to the
login screen.
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200 [01:13:29] <logdog1> Seems to be runing light-locker so you
are probably correct :P
201 [01:13:35] <logdog1> Tyvm
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203 [01:16:37] <^v> why doesnt kvm-ok exist in the kvm packages
for debian?
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208 [01:19:18] <TomTomTosch> that's a tool written by
canonical. maybe it will make its way over at some point.
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227 [01:30:58] <ross`> what is the recommended method of
installing roundcube on debian?
228 [01:31:23] <missmbob> ,v roundcube
229 [01:31:24] <judd> Package: roundcube on amd64 -- squeeze:
0.3.1-6; squeeze-security-lts: 0.3.1-6+deb6u1; squeeze-backports:
0.7.2-9~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.7.2-9+deb7u2; wheezy-security:
0.7.2-9+deb7u3; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 0.9.5-1~bpo60+1;
wheezy-backports: 0.9.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie-backports:
1.1.5+dfsg.1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.2.0+dfsg.1-1; stretch: 1.2.0+dfsg.1-1
230 [01:31:35] <missmbob> just apt-get install
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232 [01:32:48] <ross`> so enable backports?
233 [01:32:55] <missmbob> i would
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235 [01:33:17] <ross`> Do I enable backports for both debian and
security?
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238 [01:34:14] <TomTomTosch> backports has no separate security
repo.
239 [01:34:22] <missmbob> ross`: no security. just the main one.
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240 [01:34:30] <TomTomTosch> hm, i wonder why it was removed from
jessie.
241 [01:34:33] <ross`> missmbob: thanks!
242 [01:34:44] <zinx> TomTomTosch: probably security issues :/
243 [01:35:20] <ross`> oh, so I need to add jessie-backports? NOT
like this: deb
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244 [01:35:38] <ross`> am I supposed to
s/jessie/jessie-backports/
245 [01:35:46] <zinx> no
246 [01:35:51] <missmbob> ross`: read the link i sent you
247 [01:35:56] <missmbob> ross`: it very clearly states
248 [01:35:57] <link> no
249 [01:36:08] <ross`> deb
replaced-url
250 [01:36:15] <ross`> so another line completely?
251 [01:36:17] <missmbob> yes. reading is power
252 [01:36:28] <zinx> missmbob: tl;dr
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266 [01:44:00] <TomTomTosch> ah, the maintainers abandoned it and
they only found a replacement after jessie got frozen.
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280 [01:49:34] <sm00th> anybody know if https everywhere icon
changed in chromium?
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355 [02:39:46] <drkn0x> Just an off the wall question, just asked
myself "Can I run Kali 2016 off this 2011 mac mini
server?" I think yes. Thoughts?
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357 [02:40:02] <sm00th> dammit my debian can't play vimeo
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359 [02:40:44] <sm00th> oh it can play dailymotion good
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366 [02:48:02] <alipoor90> Hi, which of gnome-shell or
gnome-session commands I should use for starting gnome from vt?
what's the difference?
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382 [02:58:24] <chaddy> sudo service gdm3 stop|start|restart you
mean?
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384 [02:58:35] <chaddy> alipoor90: ^
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390 [03:00:18] <sigdk> Hello. Is there any way to redirect a
video stream to my webcam ? Something like mplayer foo.mp4 >
/dev/video0 (... would be too good to be true...)
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410 [03:15:25] <t1> Debian 8 Jessie released! /msg dpkg jessie ;
/msg dpkg wheezy->jessie ; /msg dpkg install jessie | current
point releases: /msg dpkg 8.5; /msg dpkg 7.11 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg
paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic |
testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | chanlogs: /msg dpkg
irclog
411 [03:15:57] <missmbob> thanks t1
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414 [03:16:30] <t1> Seems I got a bad manual
415 [03:16:49] <jim> replace the transmission
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419 [03:17:36] <missmbob> preferably with deluge
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430 [03:21:12] <alipoor90> Is it possible to start new x session
from gnome? (i.e. as window)
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483 [03:48:23] <miesco> ,v gpg2
484 [03:48:24] <judd> No package named 'gpg2' was found
in amd64.
485 [03:48:29] <miesco> ,v gnupg2
486 [03:48:30] <judd> Package: gnupg2 on amd64 -- squeeze:
2.0.14-2+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 2.0.14-2+squeeze2;
squeeze-security-lts: 2.0.14-2+squeeze3; wheezy-security:
2.0.19-2+deb7u2; wheezy: 2.0.19-2+deb7u2; wheezy-backports:
2.0.25-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.0.26-6; stretch: 2.1.11-7; sid:
2.1.11-7; experimental: 2.1.12-1; experimental: 2.1.14-1
487 [03:48:36] <missmbob> miesco: please /msg judd if it's
just for yourself
488 [03:48:48] <miesco> missmbob: When will stretch be released?
489 [03:49:15] <missmbob> miesco: spring '07
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491 [03:49:24] <miesco> 3007?
492 [03:49:57] <missmbob> i don't know what 3007 means.
spring US 2007. no exact month.
493 [03:51:14] <miesco> missmbob: Its already passed 2007
494 [03:51:26] <missmbob> miesco: sorry, typo. 2017
495 [03:51:32] <missmbob> miesco:
replaced-url
496 [03:52:22] <miesco> missmbob: Do you think gpg2.1 will be put
in jessie-backports?
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498 [03:53:14] <missmbob> miesco: almost sure it wont
499 [03:53:54] <TomTomTosch> ,checkbackport gnupg2
500 [03:54:05] <judd> Backporting package gnupg2 in
sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: libassuan-dev (>= 2.4.1);Build-Depends-Indep:
libassuan-mingw-w64-dev, libgcrypt-mingw-w64-dev,
libgpg-error-mingw-w64-dev, libksba-mingw-w64-dev,
libnpth-mingw-w64-dev, libz-mingw-w64-dev, win-iconv-mingw-w64-dev.
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502 [03:54:15] <TomTomTosch> wheeeeee. yeah it won't.
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513 [03:58:46] <missmbob> any benefit to using rscreen (from
autossh) instead of something like ssh -t -o BatchMode=yes -o
ServerAliveInterval=100 hostname "screen -dr" ?
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543 [04:25:39] <missmbob> fuck. not even ##linux has an answer.
guess not.
544 [04:26:07] <miesco> How do I burn data to a dvd?
545 [04:27:36] <missmbob> miesco: you can use
xfburn...k3b...brasero...
546 [04:27:48] <missmbob> all gui and easy
547 [04:27:54] <miesco> missmbob: Oh... gui?
548 [04:28:05] <missmbob> i figured that's what you wanted
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550 [04:28:43] <miesco> missmbob: no...
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553 [04:29:09] <sypher> miesco: wodim.
554 [04:29:27] <awal1> miesco, you can start from here
replaced-url
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557 [04:29:34] <missmbob> okay. then you can use wodim...really,
a bunch of answers. google
558 [04:29:41] <shadows> ugh
559 [04:30:02] <awal1> but, I believe k3b, brasero or xfburn is
the easiest way
560 [04:30:09] <missmbob> certainly
561 [04:30:12] <shadows> the burning software belongs in a brown
paper bag
562 [04:30:31] <awal1> I use wodim in cli mode and it does the
job
563 [04:30:34] <miesco> missmbob: I have been googling
564 [04:31:01] <shadows> miesco: Use cdrtools on a supported
platform, not Debian.
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566 [04:31:10] <shadows> that's what I'd recommend from
experience
567 [04:31:11] <awal1> k3b is the most powerfull gnu/linux tool I
believe
568 [04:31:20] <miesco> shadows: Not debian?
569 [04:31:29] <joshty> have you guys heard that the father of
debian recently died :( very sad
570 [04:31:55] <awal1> recently? :D
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572 [04:32:01] <joshty> yea
573 [04:32:08] <awal1> months ago
574 [04:32:11] <missmbob> joshty: that's for
#debian-offtopic and it's old news
575 [04:32:15] <shadows> it ventures into off-topic but the short
answer is that some Debian developer people caused a lot of hurt
feelings to the (very odd personality anyways of a) author for
cdrtools
576 [04:32:18] <shadows> it's way old news
577 [04:32:23] <shadows> cdrtools is banned from Debian
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579 [04:32:33] <shadows> no one will touch it or discuss it with
any integrity
580 [04:32:35] <joshty> old for me is years not months
581 [04:32:51] <joshty> such as 5 years
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583 [04:33:04] <missmbob> still offtopic
584 [04:33:05] <sypher> joshty: That's you, not everyone
else. Not only is this old news, it's also off-topic, and was
off-topic when it was current news.
585 [04:34:40] <sypher> miesco: As for your question, you've
been given a link to the Debian documentation on burning discs.
Since we're all chucking around anecdotal evidence, I've
used wodim quite often, and it's never let me down.
586 [04:34:46] <joshty> its very sad though atleast we still have
the community
587 [04:35:05] <shadows> miesco: so... referring to Debian, the
cd-writing code "wodim" and "cdrkit" are
questionable legality and anyways old not maintained since many
years... they're deprecated to anyone who plans to do more than
burn a mix-tape audio CD
588 [04:35:31] <shadows> that's my personal opinion
589 [04:36:33] <sypher> I don't believe that disc standards
have changed enough since its last release to render it somehow
obsolete. DVDs still use the same formats.
590 [04:36:33] <shadows> if you want a more current (but very
alpha/beta progress in development) then you want the libburnia
derived projects
591 [04:37:01] <shadows> that's if you're stuck using
Debian.
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594 [04:38:14] <shadows> for any serious project of importance
that relies on writing to rotational optical media, I'd have to
suggest doing research on cdrtools and find a supported platform
(that is still open source... but Debian is incompatible)
595 [04:38:29] <awal1> Where lxrand/arandr multi monitor changes
are saved?
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597 [04:38:43] <miesco> Wait so I have to make a .iso and then
burn it?
598 [04:38:57] <shadows>
replaced-url
599 [04:38:59] <awal1> I dont see lxrandr/arandr stuff in /home
600 [04:39:11] <shadows> awal1: taking a guess .config/?
601 [04:39:14] <sypher> miesco: You're being sent down a
ridiculous road, so you know.
602 [04:40:01] <awal1> i noticied that openbox-session and
fbautostart start that saved configuration but no clue how
603 [04:40:05] <sypher> miesco:
replaced-url
604 [04:40:17] <awal1> shadows, looked yet in .config and no
trace
605 [04:40:23] <shadows> ah
606 [04:40:27] <shadows> it was just a wild guess
607 [04:40:32] <miesco> sypher: Okay thanks
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609 [04:41:06] <shadows> things tend to be in ~/.config or ~/. or
stored in the dconf database
610 [04:41:44] <miesco> Do I need to use -J (joilet)?
611 [04:41:49] <awal1> xfce also can start the configuration
saved by lxrandr but and dont where it looks exactly
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614 [04:42:06] <awal1> but I dont know ^
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621 [04:43:25] <miesco> I don't want to use rock ridge or
joliet...
622 [04:44:13] <miesco> Oh wait nvm
623 [04:44:27] <missmbob> yeah you probably want joliet
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631 [04:48:16] <joshty> sypher i sent you a message not sure if
you got it
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633 [04:49:58] <awal1> shadows, I checked again .config and yes
it's there ~/.config/autostart/lxrandr-autostart.desktop
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636 [04:50:35] <awal1> I always have seen the autostart directory
but never looked what is it exactly :P
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639 [04:51:01] <joshty> sypher nvm i gtg i might be back later
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641 [04:52:08] <miesco> missmbob: No I don't want joliet, I
want rock ridge
642 [04:52:27] <awal1> so openbox-session and fbautostart starts
lxrand-autostart.desktop file ;)
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644 [04:52:40] <miesco> Also, what if I want to generate an iso
from one file as opposed to a directory?
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646 [04:53:08] <urand0m> `Kevin, you still around?
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649 [04:55:56] <jmcnaught> missmbob: have you checked out mosh?
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652 [04:56:35] <missmbob> jmcnaught: as of about 10 mintues ago
i'm using it :P just found out about it. kind of ashamed.
thanks though mate :)
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655 [04:58:31] <jim> awal1, it's a good thing to become
familiar with what's where on your disk,,, both with cd/ls/file
<somefile> and by comparing what you see to the Filesystem
Heirarchy Standard (fhs) which offers those who put distributions
together what should go where
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661 [05:00:57] <miesco> Created a little thing for writing data
to dvds:
replaced-url
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663 [05:01:44] <awal1> jim, yeah I do keep an eye on what happens
in my system but not enough free time for be aware about all :P But
thaks for the advise ;)
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665 [05:02:48] <jim> you don't have to do it in like 1
8-hour sitting...
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667 [05:03:48] <jim> and having said that, those are a few of the
learning tools at your disposal
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671 [05:04:58] <miesco> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
superblock on /dev/sr0,
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673 [05:05:03] <miesco> Is this because I didn't use joliet?
674 [05:05:13] <awal1> thanks, jim
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679 [05:07:47] <jim> welcome
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681 [05:11:20] <miesco> "[796261.663378] FAT-fs (sr0):
Can't find a valid FAT filesystem"
682 [05:12:22] <jmcnaught> miesco: why FAT? what command did you
use to mount it?
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685 [05:13:08] <miesco> jmcnaught: [796335.331045] UDF-fs:
warning (device sr0): udf_fill_super: No partition found (1)
686 [05:13:13] <urand0m> someone highlight me, im messin with my
colors
687 [05:13:26] <miesco> jmcnaught: [796335.331042] UDF-fs: error
(device sr0): udf_read_tagged: read failed, block=512, location=512
688 [05:14:32] <jmcnaught> miesco: bash: [796335.331045]: command
not found
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690 [05:16:07] <miesco> jmcnaught: Do you know why the UDF
filesystem is corrupt?
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693 [05:17:26] <jmcnaught> miesco: what command are you using?
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695 [05:17:54] <jmcnaught> miesco: are you specifying fat or udf?
why not iso9660?
696 [05:18:12] <miesco> jmcnaught: I tried -t udf,iso9660
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698 [05:18:30] <miesco> jmcnaught: mount -t udf,iso9660 /dev/sr0
/media/cdrom
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700 [05:19:42] <jmcnaught> miesco: what is the comma separation
supposed to do with '-t'?
701 [05:20:38] <miesco> jmcnaught: I just burnt the dvd. Is it
because I don't have the dvd codecs?
702 [05:22:02] <jmcnaught> miesco: where did you get '-t
udf,iso9660' for the command to mount? does it work with
'-t iso9660'?
703 [05:22:37] <miesco> jmcnaught: No it doesn't
704 [05:22:45] <miesco> jmcnaught: I tried all sorts of
combinations, even vfat
705 [05:23:07] <jmcnaught> miesco: did you try without -t?
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707 [05:23:36] <miesco> jmcnaught: Yes
708 [05:23:57] <miesco> mount: /dev/sr0 is write-protected,
mounting read-only
709 [05:24:00] <miesco> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
superblock on /dev/sr0,
710 [05:24:10] <miesco> jmcnaught: It almost works, but then it
doesn't
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712 [05:24:53] <jmcnaught> miesco: it would be easier to help you
if you show the command you use and complete output every time,
using a paste site if it's more than a 3 or 4 lines
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714 [05:25:41] <miesco> jmcnaught: It just shows that output
every time
715 [05:25:44] <jmcnaught> miesco: what do you get from
"file /dev/sr0" ?
716 [05:26:05] <miesco> jmcnaught: /dev/sr0: block special (11/0)
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719 [05:26:38] <miesco> jmcnaught: Oh it worked
720 [05:26:45] <miesco> jmcnaught: I just ejected the cd and put
it back in
721 [05:28:45] <hiexpo> hey all I am on jessie and when I creat a
launcher it launches xterm instead of my mate terminal how do I
change this?
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723 [05:29:24] <jmcnaught> hiexpo: how did you create the
launcher? which desktop environment are you using?
724 [05:30:46] <hiexpo> hi jmcnaught I am useing mate desktop and
I just created it on the desktop where it says create laucher and I
choose in terminal and that's what I get
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726 [05:33:03] <jmcnaught> hiexpo: i don't use MATE but you
could look at "update-alternatives --display
x-terminal-emulator", or check MATE's settings menu for
default applications
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730 [05:36:42] <hiexpo> jmcnaught, okay I checked update
alternatives and it is set on auto how can I change that ?
731 [05:37:50] <jmcnaught> hiexpo: use "update-alternatives
--config". there's more info on the man page.
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746 [05:49:12] <mo1991reg> I'm having trouble gettin xfce
power manager to reliably lock the screen after I close my laptop
and reopen. it is set to suspend. Debian Jessie. not sure but may be
related to running windows vm while suspending via laptop lid? Any
ideas?
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770 [06:00:14] <mo1991reg> any suggestions, I am a long time
debian and xfce user. I haven't run it on a laptop in a while,
however. WTF, screen lock just stops working if you are running a VM
machine. Seems a rather serious flaw.
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773 [06:01:21] <awal1> mo1991reg, you want to get xfce locking
your screen before suspen and after a resume from suspend?
774 [06:01:48] <mo1991reg> yes, which it does fine, but vmware
seems to screw it up??
775 [06:02:56] <mo1991reg> meaning if I suspend, then power on,
it asks for passwd. normal behavior
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777 [06:02:59] <awal1> mo1991reg, is xfce settings -----»
session and startup (not sure how it's called in english) do
you have lock screen before suspend enabled?
778 [06:03:09] <mo1991reg> yes, i do
779 [06:03:13] <awal1> ok
780 [06:03:26] <awal1> so no clue about vmware vs xfce
781 [06:03:47] <mo1991reg> which is something i didn't have
set before I looked into this, and i thought fixed the issue. but
seems not to have fixed
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784 [06:05:09] <mo1991reg> I'm just guessing at this point
that it is vmware related, as until I run a vm, locking seems to
work fine, as I'm running debian stable and shit like this
always works fine.
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787 [06:06:20] <Fat-Zer_> hi, I can't find a doc describing
aptitude search templates...
788 [06:06:43] <awal1> i guess it's vmware related, bcoz all
fine here with suspend & lock screen in xfce
789 [06:06:43] <mo1991reg> but it does seem that after I have a
vm running as well, in full screen, etc, it somehow messes with xfce
power manager, as it locks fine until vm starts. once vm is also
running, it just comes out of hibernation and does not ask for lock
password. not cool
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791 [06:07:30] <Fat-Zer_> *i may be wrong with the term
792 [06:08:15] <themill> !aptitude search
793 [06:08:15] <dpkg> from memory, aptitude search is a powerful
searching facility that by default only searches package names, but
can be made to search priorities, installation status, dependencies
etc. See /usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/ch02s04.html (aptitude-doc
package),
replaced-url
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796 [06:08:48] <mo1991reg> awal1 - i'd have to agree, as
I've run xfce on debian for many years, before jessie, and
never had an issue. Just seems a big bug to have vmware somehow
bypass such an important security feature. thus the wtf
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799 [06:09:32] <Fat-Zer_> themill: thanks, I suppose it
isn't included in form of man/info?
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801 [06:10:05] <awal1> mo1991reg, check the BTS or report a bug
if itisn't reported somewhere yet...
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803 [06:10:42] <Rusty1_> and of couse #vmware or possibly #xfce
804 [06:10:46] <mo1991reg> pretty crazy. even after vmware is
shut down, still no lock screen
805 [06:10:54] <Rusty1_> *of course
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807 [06:11:51] <mo1991reg> Rusty1_ Do you really think that would
be an xfce bug as opposed to Debian bug? As we are talking debian
stable here and lockscreens?
808 [06:12:47] <Rusty1_> mo1991reg: i've no idea, just
suggesting another avenue or two for help with it
809 [06:13:04] <Rusty1_> wait here , ask there , up to you
810 [06:13:56] <mo1991reg> that's all good, I'm just
really amazed that this bug exists two years after Jessie became
stable. I just logged out, logged back in. Lockscreen works. If I
run a vmware fullscreen it stops working.
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814 [06:16:05] <mo1991reg> I sort of have to believe it
can't possibly be old trusty debian's fault :)
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816 [06:16:17] <mo1991reg> wtf
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826 [06:20:53] <mo1991reg> I guess I should see if this behavior
is xfce related , or does this also happen with other WM's.
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909 [07:16:15] <superlinux> hi.
910 [07:16:37] <superlinux> one of my friends in syria is having
issues with apt-get
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912 [07:17:34] <superlinux> the repository addresses are correct
on his sources.list . I checked them so many times. and he cannot
resume his download
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914 [07:18:28] <superlinux> he is getting HTTP 302 errors
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948 [07:38:34] <awal1> superlinux, try other mirrors
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959 [07:46:15] <bombig> ^^
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966 [07:48:24] <urand0m> do i need exim4.service?
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970 [07:50:20] <jmcnaught> urand0m: lots of other services depend
on a mail transport agent like exim4, but on a desktop it's
probably not that useful to most people
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973 [07:51:05] <jmcnaught> urand0m: there are also alternatives
to exim4, some that don't run in the background all the time
like msmtp-mta and ssmtp. look at "aptitude search
~Pmail-transport-agent" for a list
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978 [07:54:14] <ar_> What you think about the future of debian in
next 30 years?
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987 [08:00:01] <urand0m> sorry lost my net
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989 [08:00:56] <urand0m> i ran systemd-analyze blame and found
this user@121.service what is that?
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991 [08:02:18] <jmcnaught> urand0m: what does "systemctl
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993 [08:02:33] <jmcnaught> and "id 121"
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997 [08:04:14] <urand0m> jmcnaught, it says
replaced-url
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999 [08:04:43] <urand0m> id121 is lightdm
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1001 [08:04:48] <urand0m> id 121 *
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1012 [08:10:52] <urand0m> do i need pppd-dns.service or
exim4.service? what are they?
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1014 [08:13:02] <ar_> I'm looking for a GUI system-wide proxy
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1060 [08:52:10] <dionysus69> why is git not in jessie backports?
1061 [08:52:25] <dionysus69> that leaves me only with one option,
to remove it and install it from official site.
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1063 [08:52:53] <dionysus69> or do I have any other option? jessie
stable version is 2.1.4 and official one is at 2.9.*... come on
1064 [08:53:30] <hexnewbie> dionysus69: Get the source from
stretch and attempt to build the package?
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1067 [08:54:15] <dionysus69> how do i get source from stretch? go
to site and download source?
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1070 [08:55:07] <hexnewbie> dionysus69: That's one option.
You could also add the deb-src line to sources.list and use apt-get
source.
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1072 [08:55:36] * themill wonders what new feature is so cool that it is
absolutely required
1073 [08:55:54] <dionysus69> i was told to use rebase flag and its
not recognized
1074 [08:56:07] <themill> "rebase flag"?
1075 [08:56:13] <dionysus69> --rebase
1076 [08:56:25] <dionysus69> git pull master --rebase for example
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1079 [08:56:41] <themill> that works just fine in jessie
1080 [08:56:48] <dionysus69> nope it doesnt
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1082 [08:56:54] * themill uses it daily
1083 [08:56:58] <dionysus69> says rebase is not an option
1084 [08:57:15] <dionysus69> I have version 2.1.4
1085 [08:57:22] <dionysus69> which one do u have?
1086 [08:57:33] <themill> the version in jessie...
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1088 [08:57:35] <wiredPi> Hello
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1090 [08:58:39] <hexnewbie> dionysus69: Instead of upgrading, try:
git pull --rebase master
1091 [08:59:14] <dionysus69> git pull --rebase origin master
1092 [08:59:15] <dionysus69> worked
1093 [08:59:23] <dionysus69> thanks hexnewbie :)
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1327 [11:45:15] <CtrlC> "canberra-gtk-play -i
'message-new-instant'says "Failed to play sound: File
or data not found" How can I fix this?
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1332 [11:47:17] <superbia> hola
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1337 [11:52:02] <CtrlC> Anyone knows where I can get those files?
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1356 [12:01:01] <CtrlC> No?:/
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1359 [12:03:09] <jelly> CtrlC, it would be helpful if you could
identify the actual file it tries to access
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1361 [12:03:54] <jelly> CtrlC, install strace, prepend
"strace -f -eopen " to the command
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1371 [12:06:26] <CtrlC> jelly, idk what it is.
1372 [12:06:35] * extor has booted from a live usb as well as an install
usb both of which were created by dd'ing the iso image to a usb
stick. The problem encountered is the CD drive detection portion
during the install process where it wants to find a standard CD
drive and cannot detect it
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1382 [12:12:43] <CtrlC> Alright. Installing
sound-theme-freedesktop solved the problem.
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1398 [12:21:35] <afx_> I am using : "file mime-encoding
some_file.srt" . the output is some_file.srt: encoding
(e.g.utf8) .Can I somehow grab only the encoding for the file ? i.e.
utf-8?
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1404 [12:22:19] <Internat> afx: awk/cut is your friend
1405 [12:23:00] <afx_> ok did it with -b
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1421 [12:32:50] <spacebug^> calendarserver (darwin) is not in
jessie repos?
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1423 [12:34:50] <TomTomTosch> ,checkbackport calendarserver
1424 [12:34:52] <judd> Backporting package calendarserver in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
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1427 [12:35:15] <TomTomTosch> spacebug^: you can build it from sid
sources.
1428 [12:35:25] <TomTomTosch> !tell spacebug^ about ssb
1429 [12:35:55] <spacebug^> thanx
1430 [12:36:06] <joze> thcks
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1439 [12:41:07] <ar_> why many of hostings use rhel instead of
debian?
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1446 [12:44:37] <bazhang> good topic for #debian-offtopic ar_
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1501 [13:03:51] <spacebug^> ehm.. my virtualbox has suddenly
stopped working. I get segmentation error. "traps:
VirtualBox[23090] general protection ip:7f48a54781f2 sp:7ffda1c92108
error:0 in libQtGui.so.4.8.6[7f48a5267000+aa3000]" from dmesg
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1510 [13:07:50] <spacebug^> oh well.. worked after reboot. Strange
things started to happen once my cat walked on my power button,
putting my computer to sleep :D
1511 [13:08:37] <TomTomTo1> blame it on the cat. classic.
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1513 [13:09:00] <TomTomTo1> x)
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1518 [13:09:59] <spacebug^> :)
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1542 [13:22:55] <shtrb> anyone upgraded to kontact 16.04-3 (or up)
and using IMAP + CAL/CARDDAV (is it safe to upgade ?)
1543 [13:23:15] <shtrb> * because the plugin package is removed
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1547 [13:25:16] <shtrb> ok I got an answer - no , that is not safe
no more supported (DAV)
replaced-url
1548 [13:25:17] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1671 [14:28:29] <b6s3d> hi, all options in NetworkManger is grayed
out when i choose a connection to edit
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1677 [14:35:36] <shtrb> Does anyone here can suggest a 4G modem
with a sim (not eSIM) that works with debian (preferrably FOSS only
software) ?
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1688 [14:40:38] <Amun_Ra> shtrb: I use Huawei E3372 in hilink mode
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1692 [14:41:42] <shtrb> Amuna_Ra , did you need extra software
(out of debian) to enable it ?
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1694 [14:41:57] <Amun_Ra> shtrb: no
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1696 [14:42:20] * shtrb checks it's specs if it will work with my
4G / LTE providers
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1704 [14:45:11] <shtrb> Amun_Ra, that looks it would actually work
for me, can it work with stuff like wvdial, interact with MMS/SMS ?
1705 [14:46:57] <Engys> what is that difficult to make
libfreetype6-dev:i386 not colliding with libfreetype6-dev .. I see
that the maintainer declared this as already fixed .. it is not! it
was not fixed since wheezy and nothing has changed same goes for
libpulse-dev:i386 with libpulse-dev
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1712 [14:52:43] <Engys> I mean this is in bugtracker since 1 Apr
2012, I love Debian but this multiarch problems really hurts long
enough
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1726 [14:59:56] <Engys> I already began to create my own lib pool
to use Debian like Archlinux, but mostly I fall back to Archlinux
because I have not the time to fix this shattared Debian System
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1732 [15:02:28] <teraflops> this is a joke right?
replaced-url
1733 [15:02:35] <Brigo> Engys, why would you use Debian like
Archlinux?
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1735 [15:02:55] <babilen> teraflops: no
1736 [15:03:31] <teraflops> babilen: what's wrong using
actual debian repos instead ubuntu ones?
1737 [15:03:32] <Brigo> some joker
1738 [15:03:55] <tremon> teraflops: did you read the text above
it? "This is very useful on Ubuntu's split archive. It is
not normally necessary on Debian"
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1740 [15:04:03] <babilen> teraflops: The point they want to
exemplify doesn't apply to Debian repositories which always
ship all architectures
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1742 [15:04:10] <tremon> so it wouldn't make sense to give a
debian-based example
1743 [15:04:18] <babilen> Because it is pointless there
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1745 [15:04:45] <teraflops> babilen: so this is de ubuntu wiki? or
just they are suggesting youre right using ubuntu repos?
1746 [15:04:50] <teraflops> the*
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1748 [15:05:26] <babilen> No, they show you how to restrict
entries to specific architectures and do so in the context of Ubuntu
as *their* repositories require this
1749 [15:05:30] <teraflops> babilen: beacuse the same example
works with debian repos (yes it's not necessary)
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1751 [15:05:48] <babilen> People might actually think they would
have to do it on Debian
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1753 [15:06:05] <Brigo> teraflops, do you see any sense in Engys
logic?
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1756 [15:06:43] <teraflops> Brigo: perhaps, but the point is the
issue is real, I already checked it
1757 [15:06:54] <Engys> Brigo try to install libfreetype6-dev with
libfreetype6-dev:i386
1758 [15:07:43] <teraflops> unless you dont need both pagkages
since one of them work with both arch (idk)
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1767 [15:09:02] <tremon> Engys: bug#?
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1770 [15:09:47] <teraflops> babilen: I understand your explanation
but *I* sincerely disagree with the example
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1772 [15:10:06] <superlinux> hi. who has root access here to the
debian servers? It's very important. please remove the word
"proxy" from the debian packages file names . some proxy
servers are hindering the download of these files.
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1774 [15:10:42] <superlinux> i was going into a redirect loop
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1776 [15:10:57] <Engys> teraflops ok and where I get my 386 dev
packages if I need it on a 64 bit system?
1777 [15:10:58] <superlinux> I just discovered that for a friend
from syria
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1779 [15:11:24] <teraflops> 15:07:43 teraflops ⎸ unless you dont
need both pagkages since one of them work with both arch (idk)
1780 [15:11:31] <teraflops> idk^
1781 [15:11:52] <superlinux> how can I send such a complaint?
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1784 [15:13:08] <tremon> superlinux: apt-transport-tor?
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1786 [15:13:24] <petemc> perhaps contact the people running the
faulty proxy servers
1787 [15:13:29] <Engys> teraflops try to compile a wine git and
you will see that you need i386 libs inside on an 64 bit system
1788 [15:13:46] <teraflops> ah, then my guess was r0ng
1789 [15:13:53] <superlinux> tremon, renaming would be better,
don;t you think?
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1791 [15:14:01] <tremon> I don't think
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1793 [15:14:30] <superlinux> i think so because beginners
don't know apt-get very well.
1794 [15:14:30] <teraflops> superlinux: are you suggesting to
avoid proxies because they are blocked in your friends country?
1795 [15:14:36] <tremon> what you're suggesting would make
that particular policy a global one
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1797 [15:15:29] <teraflops> superlinux: better go complain to your
friend's goverment?
1798 [15:15:38] <b6s3d> old dns shown in /cat/resolv.conf after
changes, what do
1799 [15:15:49] <tremon> I would not want debian to police its
package name policy based on the whims of every organization that
wants to outlaw certain words
1800 [15:16:29] <superlinux> no.. syrian local proxy is
discovering the word "proxy" in the file names of the
debian packages.. so I was not able to download the packages using
apt-get. I had to redownload them somewhere else then force install
them using dpkg. I was doing apt-get install kde-full
1801 [15:17:13] <TomTomTo1> then use apt-transport-https, use a
mirror that supports https and they can't sniff your packages.
1802 [15:17:18] <teraflops> b6s3d: what did you change and how?
1803 [15:17:26] <petemc> a proxy having problems with files named
proxy is a broken proxy
1804 [15:17:27] <shtrb> superlinux , assume active MITM!
1805 [15:17:36] <petemc> a poxy proxy
1806 [15:17:38] <superlinux> the syrian proxy server is banning
the download of the files.
1807 [15:17:51] <superlinux> and it was taking me into a redirect
loop
1808 [15:17:53] <b6s3d> in nm and /etc/resolv.conf.d/tail and head
1809 [15:17:57] <b6s3d> teraflops
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1814 [15:18:46] <teraflops> b6s3d: why did you change it in both
nm and /etc/resolv.conf.d/tail and head
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1816 [15:19:22] <tremon> b6s3d: what does readlink -f
/etc/resolv.conf show?
1817 [15:19:22] <teraflops> b6s3d: do you do dhcp for getting your
ip address?
1818 [15:19:24] <b6s3d> it said, #this line can be replaced with
head, and the buttom line said tail
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1820 [15:20:29] <shtrb> TomTomTo1 , isn't apt-transport-https
still prone for stripssl ?
1821 [15:20:43] <b6s3d> readlink -f ... says
/run/resolvconf/resolv.conf after i just installed resolvconf to try
to fix the problem
1822 [15:21:05] <b6s3d> teraflops, i think i have dhcp, but i do
not use it for ip, i have a static ip
1823 [15:22:08] <teraflops> b6s3d: well, apart from installing
resolvconf you need to configure it
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1825 [15:22:26] <TomTomTo1> shtrb: you can look in the tracker of
doom if you have the cvs. but it doesn't really matter in this
case.
1826 [15:22:31] <b6s3d> how do one configure it?
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1828 [15:22:45] <b6s3d> teraflops ^
1829 [15:22:56] <Engys> looks like Debian love its root jails
1830 [15:22:56] <TomTomTo1> s/cvs/cve
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1834 [15:24:06] <shtrb> TomTomTo1 , it is really easy to have
stipssl and other tools , no need to search for a CVE
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1837 [15:25:10] <tremon> b6s3d: man resolvconf says that all
configuration paths are under /etc/resolvconf/, not
/etc/resolv.conf.d/. did you edit the correct files?
1838 [15:26:13] <b6s3d> i have edit base original head tails to be
the same
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1840 [15:26:50] <b6s3d> in /etc/resolvconf/ too
1841 [15:27:42] <b6s3d> //etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/ that is
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1848 [15:28:38] <tremon> have you tried running resolvconf -u
manually?
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1850 [15:29:53] <b6s3d> yes, i think i fixed it by editing all the
files in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/, and some things i might
have done earlier to fix it
1851 [15:31:22] <b6s3d> still won't remove the old one
1852 [15:31:25] <b6s3d> well, gotta go
1853 [15:31:27] <b6s3d> bbl
1854 [15:32:42] <teraflops> b6s3d: you only need editing
/etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base and then resolvconf -u or just
reboot
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1856 [15:33:07] <Engys> Brigo
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1860 [15:34:04] <Engys> sry nevermind
1861 [15:34:23] <Brigo> Engys, i have felt a great disturbance in
the force ... someone should have called me
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1867 [15:36:48] <Engys> Brigo hehe .. I would tell you why I like
to use Debian instead of .. because I am not this far on the edge
that I must fear to get dropped down
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1871 [15:39:56] <Engys> Brigo hope this calms the disturbance of
the force
1872 [15:40:18] <Brigo> Engys, i looks like it's better now
:-D
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1899 [16:06:26] <Elirips> Hello. I would like to allow user
'foo' to restart apache without password using sudo. After
some googling, I came up with a sudoers entry like this: 'foo
ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/service apache2 restart'. It
works, but is it secure? What stands the ALL for?
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1910 [16:18:21] <tremon> the first ALL is the host spec (i.e. on
which machines does this line apply)
1911 [16:18:48] <tremon> that's usually irrelevant unless you
use the same sudoers file on multiple machines
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1918 [16:21:49] <bipul> If we list file with ls -ls -la , we get
total <number>, Do anyone tell me what exactly is this?
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1922 [16:24:45] <Elirips> treehug88: thank you
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1955 [16:44:49] <spacebug^> Hum.. can't get calenderserver to
install. MANY dependences that never gets satisifed
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1965 [16:52:02] <babilen> spacebug^: Did you backport it and
enabled jessie-backports?
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1969 [16:53:32] <spacebug^> probalby not because its not working
:D I enabled the sid sources adn then apt-get build-dep
calendarserver. Then apt-get -b source calendarserver. Then dpkg -i
./calendarserver_bla_bla.deb
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1974 [16:55:13] <babilen> dpkg: jessie-backports
1975 [16:55:13] <dpkg> Selected packages intended for the Debian 9
"Stretch" release but recompiled for use with
"Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the
"jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports
are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A
suitable line for your sources.list is «deb
replaced-url
1976 [16:55:31] <babilen> You might want "main contrib
non-free" if you use those
1977 [16:55:54] <spacebug^> oh.. so not compile from source but
instead use that .
1978 [16:55:59] <spacebug^> I'll give it a try
1979 [16:56:01] <spacebug^> thanks
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1983 [16:56:46] <edgardoweb> HI
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1993 [16:58:53] <spacebug^> babilen: package does not seem to be
in backports
1994 [16:59:14] <babilen> Yes, that's why *you* backport it.
You do, however, need dependencies from backports
1995 [17:00:07] <spacebug^> I'm lost.. what do I do?
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1997 [17:00:20] <babilen> You should now be able to install that
package with "dpkg -i ..." and its dependencies with
"apt-get -f install"
1998 [17:00:26] <spacebug^> Ah
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2001 [17:01:35] <spacebug^> still no luck :/
2002 [17:02:03] <babilen> Could you paste some output to
replaced-url
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2004 [17:02:32] <babilen> Did you run "apt-get update"
after adding backports to your sources.list ?
2005 [17:02:47] <spacebug^> yes
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2013 [17:04:57] <ar_> babilen yes it is required if you want to
see latest package info after sources modification
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2015 [17:05:22] <spacebug^> babilen:
replaced-url
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2017 [17:06:26] <babilen> spacebug^: I don't see the output
of "apt-get -f install" in there
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2021 [17:08:10] <spacebug^> babilen:
replaced-url
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2025 [17:09:34] <babilen> "Tar bort" ?
2026 [17:09:56] <spacebug^> "removes" in swedish
2027 [17:10:25] <babilen> Interesting
2028 [17:10:32] <babilen> "apt-cache policy" ?
2029 [17:10:58] <babilen> And that package you install is the one
you built yourself?
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2031 [17:11:26] <spacebug^>
replaced-url
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2037 [17:13:06] <spacebug^> first I did not enable packports but
only source from sid. Then I started with build-dep and -b suorce
for 'calendarserver'. Then when it said it was
dependencies missing I did the same for those.. but it just went on
and on.. deeper down with dependecies.. so maybe somethign got
screwed up in there?
2038 [17:14:22] <babilen> Oh ... you went on with the
dependencies?
2039 [17:14:26] <spacebug^> babilen: as you can see here
replaced-url
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2041 [17:14:32] <b6s3d> back, so my resolv.conf get the same dns
ip as before i configured it, how do i get rid of the old dns ip and
only use the new once
2042 [17:14:32] <spacebug^> yes.. tried
2043 [17:14:48] <babilen> spacebug^: Oh shit ..
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2045 [17:15:05] <babilen> judd: v twextpy
2046 [17:15:06] <judd> No package named 'twextpy' was
found in amd64.
2047 [17:15:17] <spacebug^> babilen: well its a virtualbox machine
so I can just reinstall it if that might fix things?
2048 [17:15:45] <spacebug^> did not want to try this on my real
machine since I did not really know what I was doing
2049 [17:15:50] <babilen> Good :)
2050 [17:15:52] <spacebug^> :)
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2052 [17:16:18] <babilen> Essentially all dependencies should be
satisfied in either jessie or jessie-backports, so you
shouldn't have to backport anythin apart from calendarserver
2053 [17:16:36] <babilen> I guess what was missing was
"jessie-backports" in your sources.list
2054 [17:16:55] <babilen> What's that twextpy?
2055 [17:17:02] <spacebug^> babilen: ok. Well I'll try
reinstall that machine and then do it right this time with backports
and see how that goes. Thanks alot!
2056 [17:17:28] <spacebug^> babilen: something, something needed
for somehting that calendarserver needed :)
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2058 [17:17:44] <babilen> I'm not exactly sure what the
status of you box is, but if it is easy to reinstall then, by all
means, do that
2059 [17:17:54] <babilen> judd: checkbackport calendarserver
2060 [17:17:54] <spacebug^> yeah I think so too
2061 [17:17:55] <judd> Backporting package calendarserver in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
2062 [17:18:17] <babilen> judd: v python-twext
2063 [17:18:18] <judd> Package: python-twext on amd64 -- sid:
0.1.b2.dev15059-1; stretch: 0.1.b2.dev15059-1
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2067 [17:18:55] <babilen> spacebug^: But I don't know .. if
that really is a dependency it wouldn't be in jessie-backports
either
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2069 [17:20:18] <spacebug^> babilen: well first I did not use
backports but only deb-src for sid.. and then calenderserver needed
python-something, and that needed that packages.. or something like
that
2070 [17:20:39] <babilen> Hmm, looks as if its dependencies
can't be satisfed
2071 [17:20:54] <babilen> That might be a problem in its packaging
rather than your fault
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2074 [17:22:14] <spacebug^> Hum.. ok
2075 [17:22:22] <babilen> Could you try installing your
python-twext and python-pg8000 backports and "dpkg -i ..."
calendarserver again?
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2082 [17:24:26] <spacebug^> babilen:
replaced-url
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2085 [17:25:14] <babilen> No, you backported them yourself
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2087 [17:25:57] <babilen> Line 17 on
replaced-url
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2090 [17:27:23] <spacebug^> babilen: Oh yeah, thats ture.. I
installed it from sid sources
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2093 [17:28:02] <babilen> You mean you did
2094 [17:28:05] <babilen> dpkg: ssb
2095 [17:28:05] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
2096 [17:28:09] <babilen> For them also?
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2098 [17:28:39] <babilen> I ask because "installed it form
sid sources" is quite ambigious as it could also mean that you
installed it from sid (which is in your sources)
2099 [17:29:22] <spacebug^> babilen: woha.. not it installed
calendarserver
2100 [17:29:57] <spacebug^> I did apt-get build-dep package;
apt-get -b source package; dpkg -i ./package
2101 [17:30:52] <spacebug^> now when I also did this for
python-twext and python-pg8000 and then installed calendarserver
again it worked
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2104 [17:31:15] <babilen> It should have, yeah
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2106 [17:31:32] <spacebug^> but I guess that if I hade done it
right from the first time I would not have had to do that for all
the dependencies
2107 [17:31:35] <spacebug^> ?
2108 [17:31:48] <babilen> No, it's not your fault
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2110 [17:32:03] <babilen> It's the packaging of
calendarserver that confused our bot
2111 [17:32:15] <babilen> (it should have picked up on those
missing dependencies)
2112 [17:32:51] <spacebug^> Ah ok
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2127 [17:43:21] <b6s3d> how do i keep my old dns from showing up
in /etc/resolv.conf
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2136 [17:46:26] <b6s3d> any help would be gladly appreciated, i
have tried to fix this problem more or less for 3 days now
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2140 [17:49:51] <babilen> b6s3d: You have to configure whatever
program you use to manage /etc/resolv.conf. Most, like
network-manager, let you configure nameserver. Might also want to
look at dhclient and resolvconf config, but it really depends on
your setup.
2141 [17:50:24] <b6s3d> i have configured all of them
2142 [17:50:26] <b6s3d> nothing helps
2143 [17:50:31] <b6s3d> old dns is still there
2144 [17:50:46] <babilen> So, remove it?
2145 [17:50:55] <b6s3d> by hand it will get overwritten
2146 [17:51:04] <babilen> Then you haven't configured
"all of them"
2147 [17:51:15] <b6s3d> yes
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2150 [17:52:22] <b6s3d> generated by dhcpcd from eth0
2151 [17:52:41] <spacebug^> babilen: another thing, calendar
server installed itself but did not run untill I manually installed
postgresql. Error in dependencies or is postgresql not realy
required but somehow default in config?
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2154 [17:53:28] <babilen> spacebug^: I know nothing about
calendarserver, sorry
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2156 [17:53:42] <babilen> b6s3d: So, check your dhclient conf
2157 [17:53:59] <babilen> b6s3d: I have no idea how you get online
and what kind of tools you use to do so
2158 [17:54:02] <b6s3d> what could i add remove?
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2160 [17:54:11] <spacebug^> babilen: Ok
2161 [17:54:20] <b6s3d> babilen: ofcause not
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2163 [17:54:30] <b6s3d> don't trip m8
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2168 [17:55:47] <jelly> b6s3d, do you have access to the
configuration of your DHCP server?
2169 [17:56:07] <b6s3d> oh, advance question, do you mean the
router?
2170 [17:56:21] <b6s3d> i have root on my device if thats what you
ask
2171 [17:56:28] <b6s3d> i also own the router
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2176 [17:58:02] <jelly> b6s3d, if your router provides dhcp server
service, then configure it to give out correct resolvers.
2177 [17:58:50] <b6s3d> k :)
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2179 [17:59:29] <jelly> if you can't fix the config in the
right place, read /msg dpkg override dns
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2231 [18:26:25] <b6s3d> thanks it solved the problem, but cased a
new one
2232 [18:26:34] <b6s3d> i now have a non local ip address
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2235 [18:28:36] <teraflops> b6s3d: 1) do you do NM or /e/n/i? 2)
do you do dhcp or fixed ip address? 3) do you have resolvconf
package installed or not?
2236 [18:28:52] <b6s3d> i think i got it fixed some how :O
2237 [18:30:22] <teraflops> "it got fixed some how"
sounds like some sort of magic involved instead of user intervention
^
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2240 [18:30:37] <teraflops> yeah I love this shit :S
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2247 [18:34:36] <babilen> It's great that we still don't
know which tools b6s3d uses to configure it, isn't it?
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2276 [18:47:47] <diamkar> Hello i would like to ask if it is
possible to delete a metapackage without remove its packages.
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2280 [18:48:31] <awal1> diamkar, usually yes
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2291 [18:51:54] <awal1> diamkar, you can simulate removals... and
see what will happen in real, as root or as ordinary user: apt -s
remove foo aptitude -s ... apt-get -s ...
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2303 [18:56:04] <diamkar> awal1: thank you! Also i would like to
ask if anybody is aware of why eclipse in debian repositories is so
outdated and netbeans is sychronized with upstream. Thank you again
2304 [18:56:10] <eclipse> ok
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2315 [19:00:28] <jmcnaught> !stable
2316 [19:00:28] <dpkg> [stable] The status of a Debian release
when no packages will be added, new versions introduced and changes
will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be
removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian
is Jessie (8.5); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are
fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me
about <security backports>).
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2318 [19:01:02] <jmcnaught> diamkar: ^^ jessie was frozen in 2014,
almost everything in jessie is from then. netbeans is not in jessie.
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2322 [19:01:50] <diamkar> jmcnaught: what about debian testing?
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2325 [19:02:56] <jmcnaught> diamkar: what about it?
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2330 [19:05:04] <diamkar> jmcnaught: i meant is this true also for
debian testing branch? I can see both of them.
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2333 [19:06:15] <awal1> ,v synapse
2334 [19:06:17] <judd> Package: synapse on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.2.10-2; jessie-backports: 0.2.99.2-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.2.99.2-2;
sid: 0.2.99.2-2
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2336 [19:06:36] <jmcnaught> diamkar: stretch, the current testing
release, is not frozen yet. you'd have to research the eclipse
package on the debian bug tracker and other resources to see what
the people working on it are up to, what their plans for stretch are
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2338 [19:06:42] <eclipse> ok
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2370 [19:25:50] <diamkar> Is it possible to get enterprise support
for Debian?
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2381 [19:32:18] <awal1>
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2492 [20:24:43] <Douglas_Masters> Hello dear Debian users. I am
trying to install Debian on a system with no CD/DVD drive. I am
using a Debian DVD usb. Is it possible to somehow install the
remaining 2 Debian DVD images with a USB drive?
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2496 [20:26:36] <tremon> Douglas_Masters: the machine has no
internet connection?
2497 [20:26:57] <Douglas_Masters> No.
2498 [20:27:14] <Douglas_Masters> It does have an internet
connection but you need to install proprietary firmware for it to
work.
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2502 [20:27:29] <Douglas_Masters> The firmware may be
malfunctioning so I can not install it.
2503 [20:27:40] <up2late> ouch
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2506 [20:28:02] <missmbob> !firmware images
2507 [20:28:02] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
2508 [20:28:21] <tremon> hmm. I'm guessing it's possible
but maybe not needed much
2509 [20:28:30] <Douglas_Masters> Yes.
2510 [20:28:43] <Douglas_Masters> I am trying to install a Debian
system for off of the line usage.
2511 [20:28:47] <Douglas_Masters> For system development.
2512 [20:28:57] <Douglas_Masters> An internet connection is not
desired.
2513 [20:29:03] <tremon> I would just try to copy the archive
directories from the dvd{2,3} images into the prepared dvd1 usb
stick
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2516 [20:29:32] <Douglas_Masters> Would that work? Copying the
directories?
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2518 [20:29:48] <tremon> I'm not exactly sure of the
installer's directory structure, but it might work
2519 [20:30:42] <smoutz> Hello, I am totally confused. During the
net install I want to deselect the option for desktop environment,
but I don't know which key to press, I tried many and
can't find it
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2521 [20:30:44] <tremon> I would guess (note: wild, wild guess)
that the sources have a package listing somewhere, you might need to
cat some listings together
2522 [20:30:55] <tremon> but a simple dumb copy is what I'd
try first
2523 [20:30:57] <missmbob> smoutz: space
2524 [20:31:04] <smoutz> missmbob: LOL ok thanks
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2565 [20:52:36] <tremon> Douglas_Masters: I've looked at the
structure of the cd's a bit, and it seems to me that you only
need two components off the extra discs: the /pool directory and the
dists/$release/$suite/binary-$arch/Packages.gz file
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2570 [20:54:22] <tremon> the Packages.gz files need some work, as
you need to create a new Packages.gz file with the contents of all
cd's
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2576 [20:56:53] <tremon> that may be as simple as mounting them
all and issuing zcat
/media/cd?/dists/jessie/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz | gzip >
/tmp/Packages.gz
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2579 [20:58:56] <tremon> however, there may be a different listing
somewhere in the installer code that lists which package is supposed
to be on which disc. To be certain, you may want to ask #debian-boot
on OFTC
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2585 [21:02:43] <teraflops> I wonder if it's enough if you
mount the isos with -o loop to the correct folder and let apt handle
it with the sources.list DVD stuff
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2596 [21:07:12] <Douglas_Masters> I have looked in a little into
"apt-cdrom".
2597 [21:07:24] <Douglas_Masters> I might try to use that specific
tool.
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2602 [21:09:27] <tremon> that's also an option, but I'm
not sure you can use apt-cdrom from within the installer. Then
you'd have to install with just disc1, and installer the rest
after booting your new system
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2604 [21:09:31] <tremon> which is a good idea to do anyway
2605 [21:09:43] <Douglas_Masters> Yes.
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2680 [22:00:30] <iLlamazz> How can I find out what is making my
Debain Virtualbox machine take 15-20 minutes to reboot?
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2685 [22:02:05] <teraflops> iLlamazz: you mean the guest?
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2688 [22:02:49] <iLlamazz> Yeah, running Debian through
Virtualbox. When I run sudo reboot or shutdown, it takes a solid
15-20 minutes to shutdown.
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2700 [22:07:28] <teraflops> I have no idea of virtual box. but if
it's a guest issue not related to vbox itself just treat it as
it were a physical machine I suppose
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2703 [22:08:47] <teraflops> so check ram, i/o, disk space systemd
units status, journal etcetera
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2706 [22:09:56] <jhutchins> iLlamazz: Check logs.
2707 [22:10:16] <jhutchins> iLlamazz: Is an MTA or other DNS
sensitive program running?
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2713 [22:11:35] <spacebug^> babilen: I wounder if there still
might be a dependency problem since I get this
replaced-url
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2715 [22:12:15] <iLlamazz> jhutchings, which logs should I look
at? This is first time using a unix based system. I am only running
a home automation program that is python based on it.
2716 [22:13:55] <jhutchins> iLlamazz: Not to be a smartass, but
all of them so you can figure out what's in which log. /var/log
is where most of the system stuff is.
2717 [22:14:24] <jhutchins> iLlamazz: dmesg | less will show you
kernel events since boot.
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2719 [22:14:39] <iLlamazz> Will start going through them.
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2722 [22:15:56] <jhutchins> iLlamazz: Most things go to
/var/log/syslog, some of those are also split out into special logs,
then mail stuff goes to either /var/log/mail.log (or maillog) and
sometimes to somewhere like /var/log/exim4/*
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2724 [22:16:58] <teraflops> iLlamazz: looks like a python issue.
what did you install and how did you install it? looks like system
wide. it's from debian repositories? did you install it like
sudo pip whatever?
2725 [22:18:34] <iLlamazz> Installed home assistant (home
automation) with a virtualenv. Used pip3 install --upgrade
homeassistant to install and then set it up to autostart.
2726 [22:18:44] <iLlamazz> Wondering if its hanging on killing it
when shutting down
2727 [22:19:22] <missmbob> !tell iLlamazz about dontbreakdebian
2728 [22:19:24] <teraflops> iLlamazz: and how did you setup it for
autostart?
2729 [22:19:27] <missmbob> !tell iLlamazz about frankendebian
2730 [22:20:18] <teraflops> I do systemd units for my virtualenv
stuff and it works fine
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2732 [22:20:42] <teraflops> missmbob: using virtualenv does not
break debian btw
2733 [22:21:27] <missmbob> i missed that bit.
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2739 [22:22:53] <iLlamazz> teraflops
replaced-url
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2743 [22:24:11] <teraflops> iLlamazz: please mind using
paste.debian.net?
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2753 [22:26:49] <michael_mbp> hi all which image do I need for
x86_64
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2755 [22:26:55] <michael_mbp> amd64?
2756 [22:27:01] <iLlamazz>
replaced-url
2757 [22:27:10] <iLlamazz> teraflops, sorry
2758 [22:27:27] <teraflops> iLlamazz: nah. thanks
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2760 [22:29:32] <iLlamazz> teraflops, whats odd is it didn't
use to do this. not sure what changed
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2763 [22:31:38] <teraflops> iLlamazz: it doesn't look to me
that you're using a virtualenv
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2769 [22:34:12] <awal1> iLlamazz, I run virtualbox daily and I
have several deb gest's and no problem at all. Is your host
debian?
2770 [22:34:39] <teraflops> iLlamazz: anyway I guess it's
worth asking in python too.
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2772 [22:35:07] <iLlamazz> teraflops, err, could it be because of
the exec location? I copied that off the website but I changed the
exec location to /srv/hass/bin/hass
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2774 [22:35:21] <teraflops> iLlamazz: sure
2775 [22:35:25] <iLlamazz> awl no, virtual box is running on win 7
2776 [22:35:44] <awal1> sudo reboot/shutdown while "we"
are with systemd ^-`
2777 [22:36:19] <awal1> if you run systemd you should use
systemctl reboot/poweroff
2778 [22:36:56] <awal1> or shutdown -r now / -h now in the old
sysvinit way
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2783 [22:39:44] <teraflops> iLlamazz: call the executable with the
full path for both the python3 and the application script on the
exec line from the systemd unit
2784 [22:40:28] <teraflops> pointing to the virtualenv correct
path obv
2785 [22:41:43] <awal1> iLlamazz, with systemd you can have a
reboot/shutdown logs. that's easy to set up; check
replaced-url
2786 [22:42:07] <teraflops> iLlamazz: /path/to/my/venv/python3
/path/to/my/vevn/script. ..
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2788 [22:43:10] <iLlamazz> teraflops, call it then what? Reboot? P
2789 [22:43:20] <iLlamazz> awal1, thanks
2790 [22:43:30] <teraflops> iLlamazz: or make a wrapper e. g
replaced-url
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2792 [22:43:48] <teraflops> iLlamazz: i mean in your systemd unit
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2800 [22:49:10] <awal1> iLlamazz, as root run sync &&
reboot -f and check if the system reboots normally
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2802 [22:49:55] <iLlamazz> awal1, okay. Waiting for systemctl
reboot to finish.
2803 [22:50:52] <iLlamazz> Last thing that was OK was starting sys
hardware clock with system clock.. Stuck after that with the next
"task" not showing up yet.
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2806 [22:51:33] <awal1> iLlamazz, it may be an X service not
stopping, not systemd/linux at all
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2808 [22:52:28] <iLlamazz> The logs should say what service is
having issues stopping, right?
2809 [22:52:32] <awal1> if you enable log level for sytemd, you
may get a helpful output
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2811 [22:53:31] <awal1> no systemd reboot/shutdown logs in
default/standard config/build
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2813 [22:54:08] <iLlamazz> set it to debug?
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2815 [22:54:24] <awal1> all is well explained in the link I gave
you
2816 [22:54:44] <iLlamazz> kk
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2821 [22:55:45] <turbo64> upgrading to stretch was a bad idea
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2823 [22:55:50] <turbo64> good thing i backed everything up
beforehand
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2826 [22:56:05] <turbo64> anyone use MATE desktop
2827 [22:56:27] <turbo64> its pretty fucked up in stretch
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2829 [22:56:30] <awal1> many people use it
2830 [22:56:40] <Ticho> file a bug and move on - that's what
stretch is for
2831 [22:56:42] <missmbob> !debian-next
2832 [22:56:43] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
2833 [22:56:57] <teraflops> it's testing so you can expect
such things
2834 [22:56:57] <awal1> I have mate in my sid machine and it runs
smoothly :P
2835 [22:57:13] <turbo64> they must have fixed it in that version
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2837 [22:57:38] <turbo64> it wasnt like major breakage, just theme
customization fucked up, the OSD colors were messed up
2838 [22:57:40] <turbo64> things like that
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2841 [22:58:07] <turbo64> i miss kde3
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2843 [22:58:41] <teraflops> iLlamazz: I'm afraid youre
wasting your time. since you already said you moved the virtualenv
location
2844 [22:58:42] <turbo64> i tried trinity but its kind of a broken
mishmash of qt3 and qt4 apps
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2846 [22:59:09] <turbo64> i wish they had just taken kde4 and made
it more kde3-like
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2849 [23:00:52] <__CoolGuy> Hey, is there any package called
vicious that is used with awesome desktop?
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2851 [23:01:55] <missmbob> __CoolGuy: it's in awesome-extra
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2853 [23:02:11] <__CoolGuy> Thank you so much.
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2927 [23:20:18] <domovoy> hi
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2945 [23:24:54] <domovoy> i'm trying to install debian stable
on a dedicated server (kimsufi) using debootstrap. This implies that
i use custom kernel made by ovh, this one doesn't have kernel
modules support. If my root partition is not on lvm, all works well,
but if i put it on lvm, then i must create an initramfs in order for
the kernel to find the root partition. Is there any way of avoiding
the use of the initramfs?
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2956 [23:28:28] <karsten> domovoy: Unless you've got
*exceptionally* good reasons for not using initramfs, just use it.
That's the standard, highly flexible, highly modular, highly
tested, highly functional linux bootstrapping mechanism.
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2960 [23:29:28] <karsten> domovoy: The only way to avoid using
initramfs is to build a nonmodular kernel which has everything in it
you need. It sounds as if what OVH are offering you is in fact a
kernel without module support. Do they have guidance on this?
2961 [23:29:37] <teraflops> why the hell do you have to install a
custom kernel made by your provider in a physical machine?
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2971 [23:34:53] <t4nk518> hi there is there a way i can reset the
root account and directies using terminal as i made a typo when
setting password ?
2972 [23:35:11] <t4nk518> i tried using grub but it fails :(
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2975 [23:36:08] <teraflops> t4nk518: do you have more users on the
machine, and you did setup sudo?
2976 [23:36:08] <karsten> t4nk518: How does grub fail?
2977 [23:36:33] <teraflops> t4nk518: also appending single to the
boot it will do what you want
2978 [23:36:42] <centrx> t4nk518: You could boot up with a rescue
disk
2979 [23:36:55] <centrx> t4nk518: This guide looks okay, showing
how to do with grub:
replaced-url
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2981 [23:37:12] <t4nk518> i tried that and when i set the password
it says not reconised even though i know it right also when i type
sudo it says it missing yet i can use SU strange :(
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2983 [23:37:37] <karsten> t4nk518: Reboot. Grub. Choose
single-user or append 'init=/bin/bash' to the kernel
parameters.
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2986 [23:38:12] <karsten> t4nk518: *you MUST remount the root
filesystem as writeable:* mount -o remount,rw /
2987 [23:38:21] <domovoy> karsten, teraflops >
replaced-url
2988 [23:38:31] <karsten> t4nk518: Then 'passwd root'
should reset root's password.
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2991 [23:39:01] <miesco> ,v gpg-agent
2992 [23:39:02] <judd> No package named 'gpg-agent' was
found in amd64.
2993 [23:39:05] <t4nk518> ok lemme try again
2994 [23:39:29] <karsten> t4nk518: synk, then mount read-only:
mount -o remount,ro /
2995 [23:39:34] <domovoy> karsten> ok, let's go with a
initramfs then, it's just one more command to run when i
upgrade the kernel after all
2996 [23:39:41] <karsten> t4nk518: Then reboot.
2997 [23:39:49] <teraflops> domovoy: ah so you chose the hard way,
and a non standard debian kernel, but you ask here … heh
that's fine but i have no idea sorry
2998 [23:39:57] <karsten> domovoy: A secure system is useful. An
unusable system isn't.
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3000 [23:41:03] <karsten> domovoy: I'd have to reread a lot
of docs, but you can do a few things IIRC (and time's not been
kind to my neurons). Option 1: create / use a modular kernel and
initramfs. Once that's all up and working, compile in *those*
*specific* *modules* to a nonmodular kernel.
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3003 [23:41:23] <space-xcp> anyone around ?
3004 [23:41:31] <karsten> domovoy: Option 2: I _think_
there's a kernel param somewhere which locks the kernel against
additional modules being loaded. You can dig about for that.
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3009 [23:42:24] <karsten> domovoy: Problem with nonmodular kernels
is that a *lot* of stuff is now dynamically loaded. For a server
that's _probably_ not an issue, but should you need, say, some
filesystem or other capability in future, it's going to be
funkier to actually get to it.
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3011 [23:43:23] <karsten> domovoy: There's also the question
of what sort of IPMI / LOM etc. you've got. Some of those give
you ability to boot a server with media provided remotely, which can
be quite handy.
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3014 [23:43:58] <domovoy> thing is, since that kernel doesn't
have module support, update-initramfs complains about the modules
directory missing, and depmod fails. I still get a working
initramfs, but can i get rid those warnings/errors during
update-initramfs? i found nothing in the manpages about telling
update-initramfs not to use modules
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3017 [23:45:41] <karsten> domovoy: Good question, I'm not
sure. Nice thing about the initramfs though is that it's just a
little filesystem itself. Expand it (I _think_ it's targz) and
look at its init. If you can find the module-loading bits, excise
them.
3018 [23:45:53] <domovoy> karsten> kimsufi allow booting on a
remote kernel, and a rescue mode where i can then mount my
partitions, chroot, whatever...
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3020 [23:46:37] <domovoy> karsten> thanks, i'll take a
look into that
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3022 [23:46:56] <t4nk765> i tried using grub and remount the
directy but as soon as i do su root it says bad password and your
not allowed to mess with roots account also root is missin =g under
users list :(
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3025 [23:48:05] <t4nk765> is there a hack way of doing it via term
s-:
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3029 [23:49:01] <karsten> domovoy: IIRC the initramfs build params
let you include custom scripts if you want.
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3032 [23:49:53] <karsten> t4nk765: Descrbe what you're doing
within GRUB. There's no need to su root, you *are* root if
you're doing this right.
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3036 [23:50:58] <t4nk765> i press e and added init=/bin/bash but
no command line come up it booted into gui
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3039 [23:51:39] <karsten> t4nk765: Something's not right with
that. I'm not sure what.
3040 [23:52:43] <karsten> t4nk765: Do you have a root user boot
stanza? Try switching to that in GRUB, and appending
'init=/bin/bash' to _that_ stanza, then booting. May be
some other args getting in the way.
3041 [23:53:12] <t4nk765> ok brb
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3047 [23:54:49] <karsten>
replaced-url
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3056 [23:59:28] <teraflops> either appending sigle or
init=/bin/bash works
3057 [23:59:33] <t4nk794> passwd: You may not view or modify
password information for root. when i do passwd root i get the
previous message yet under grub root i updated the password ?
corrupt install files ?
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