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3[00:00:38] <abrock> also, bumblebeed is getting started and
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8[00:02:07] <abrock> the "Detaching egress..."
messages are sprinkled with these: Attaching egress BPF program to
cgroup /sys/fs/cgroup/unified/system.slice/systemd-journald.service
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156[01:14:19] <awal1> firefox is built with gtk2?
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163[01:16:58] <awal1> looks like firefox have dropped support
for gtk2 since 53+?
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192[01:34:59] <lszyba1> do you how to mount sshfs in /etc/fstab
to a server that only allows sftp (aka not ssh)? I can't do
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193[01:35:31] <hans_> awal1, idk but firefox ESR (long-term
security updates edition) is still on 52
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209[01:42:21] <Tramp> lszyba1: sftp get the
.ssh/authorized_keys, edit locally, sftp put it back
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227[01:54:12] <awal1> hans_, right. aptitude search '~i ~D
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231[01:55:37] <hans_> awal1, seems it can use gtk-2 as a
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238[01:59:53] <[Brain]> who is it that decides on changes of
group and user ids for 'system' groups and users as
defined by debian packages?
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240[02:00:15] <[Brain]> in debian 8, user group 108 was
'ssl' or something, which allowed read access to
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241[02:00:22] <[Brain]> sorry, 107
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242[02:00:38] <[Brain]> now, in debian 9, crontab has been moved
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246[02:01:09] <[Brain]> this broke my backups that i transferred
from my old debian 8 machine to new debian 9, as the /etc/ssl group
in my backup was then owned by crontab
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249[02:01:19] <rjsalts> [Brain]: many packages don't define
a group at all but just have a section in their postinst script to
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250[02:01:25] <[Brain]> isnt this something someone should maybe
have documented? seems pretty major to change the gid of a system
group....
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252[02:02:03] <rjsalts> so if you don't install a certain
package which adds the user group, or install in a different order
then it will have selected a different uid/gid
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253[02:02:18] <[Brain]> hmm, that doesnt add up with what im
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256[02:02:38] <[Brain]> i installed all the packages in
different orders, but stuff like bind, mysql, exim, clamav, snmp
still have the same gids
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261[02:03:37] <[Brain]> and it inserted the sudo group at gid 27
near the top of the groups file, even though that was maybe the last
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262[02:03:48] <[Brain]> i think theres some numbering scheme
going off there
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263[02:03:50] <rjsalts> bind9 doesn't have a fixed uid/gid
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264[02:04:09] <rjsalts> [Brain]: getent group bind >/dev/null
2>&1 || addgroup --system bind
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266[02:04:40] <[Brain]> there are gaps too, like group
"dip" is gid 30 and then
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272[02:05:31] <[Brain]> does the allocation scan the groups file
finding the next free gid, or is it always highest gid + 1 for the
next group unless manually specified?
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273[02:05:38] <hamersaw> :q
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276[02:06:28] <rjsalts> [Brain]: /etc/adduser.conf ->
FIRST_SYSTEM_UID=100 LAST_SYSTEM_UID=999
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279[02:07:02] <rjsalts> [Brain]: uid/gid under 100 are set in
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282[02:07:53] <[Brain]> ah, thats sort of what i was asking,
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286[02:09:26] <rjsalts> it seems base-passwd is the package that
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288[02:09:53] <hans_> and here i thought the first system uid
was 0 called root
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291[02:10:45] <rjsalts> hans_: we're just talking about
"system" users as defined by the --system flag to
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292[02:11:50] <rjsalts> it looks like the postinst for
base-passwd either copies /usr/share/base-passwd/passwd.master to
/etc/passwd or tries to merge it with the existing passwd file if it
already exists
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296[02:13:49] <rjsalts> [Brain]: I used something like
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299[02:14:29] <[Brain]> i just made a dir called /oldserver,
then rsync'ed from one to the other under a screen session,
preserving uids, gids, symlinks etc and ignoring device nodes
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300[02:14:49] <[Brain]> then cherry picked out the configs etc i
wanted to keep, updated the rest
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301[02:14:54] <[Brain]> e.g. apache 2.2 to 2.4, php 5 to 7
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304[02:15:17] <[Brain]> there was about 250gb to migrate, mostly
homedirs
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305[02:15:23] <rjsalts> [Brain]: that was, install new system
and packages, copy passwd/group/shadow from old host to tmp
directory on new, run stuff in the gist, copy/merge old
passwd/group/shadow files into /etc/ on new host
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307[02:15:55] <[Brain]> then i manually re-created users in the
same order to ensure they had the same uid and gid from 1000
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308[02:16:34] <[Brain]> i wanted to manually review every user
as i moved them over, as some people i hadnt spoken to for years and
wasnt going to continue giving them access
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310[02:17:33] <rjsalts> the other option is rsync will preserve
username/group mappings rather than uid/gid unless you specify
--numeric-ids
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428[03:54:31] <multi_io> locale problem:
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429[03:54:31] <multi_io> # export LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8
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430[03:54:32] <multi_io> bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE:
cannot change locale (en_US.utf8)
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431[03:54:56] <multi_io> # locale -a | grep en_US.utf8
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432[03:54:57] <multi_io> en_US.utf8
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433[03:54:59] <multi_io> #
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434[03:55:03] <multi_io> ???
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435[03:55:15] <multi_io> why does it do this? What's
missing?
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441[03:57:16] <sveta> hm
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445[03:58:02] <sveta> multi_io, `locale-gen en_US en_US.utf8`
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446[03:58:08] <sveta> multi_io, or `locale-gen en_US
en_US.utf-8`
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451[04:03:43] <multi_io> sveta: same result
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452[04:04:35] <multi_io> trying in a "docker run -ti
debian:stable" now
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453[04:04:52] <SSD-newbie> I've just installed Debian 9 on
my laptop's Micron_1100_MTFDDAV256TBN SSD SATA M.2 drive. I am
reading the
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454[04:04:52] <SSD-newbie> have to add relatime to /etc/fstab
despite the fact that relatime is the default? I don' t
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455[04:05:13] <SSD-newbie> Just in case, here is my /etc/fstab
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456[04:05:41] <SSD-newbie>
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458[04:07:52] <dvs> SSD-newbie, you don't have to add it.
It sounds like that option will prolong the life of your drive.
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459[04:09:51] <SSD-newbie> that option will prolong the life of
your drive but why do i have to add it if it is already enabled by
default? Or is it really enabled by default?
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461[04:10:59] <dvs> Oh, the documentation must be old
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464[04:13:33] <multi_io> locale stuff still broken, in debian
stable too.
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465[04:13:33] <multi_io>
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466[04:13:49] <multi_io> or I'm doing it wrong(tm) ??
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485[04:29:10] <SSD-newbie> How can i disable hibernation on
Debian 9?
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486[04:29:33] <SSD-newbie> what file shall i edit to permanently
disable hibernation?
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490[04:32:40] <awal1> +1 for numix-gtk-theme
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492[04:32:52] <nic_> bretty good theme
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493[04:33:02] <nic_> best theme tbh
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494[04:33:04] <awal1> yep, better than arc
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495[04:33:13] <multi_io> dvs: see the paste
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496[04:33:23] <nic_> shame about no numix icon pack in debian
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497[04:33:32] <nic_> the circle one i mean
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501[04:33:53] <awal1> standard ones are also great
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503[04:34:06] <nic_> they are not bad
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506[04:34:38] <awal1> I would like to have a blue version,
instead of orange, gtk-theme & icon-theme
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507[04:34:44] <dvs> multi_io, so you don't have the locale
you're specifying set up. You have to run
"dpkg-reconfigure locales" to set that locale up.
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508[04:35:12] <nic_> i dont have idea how to turn it blue tbh
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510[04:35:43] <awal1> modifying source, I guess
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511[04:37:15] <nic_> yea but i'm low iq
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516[04:41:55] <awal1> 'blue menta', from
'mate-themes' is also great. or clearloox-phenix-theme
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519[04:46:09] <awal1> nic_, in the source probably just change
all #d64937, the default, by the color of your choice
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520[04:46:24] <nic_> that easy?
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521[04:46:30] <nic_> have you tested it?
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524[04:47:53] <awal1> not yet, that is why I said probably,
meaning possibly :P
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525[04:48:39] <awal1> I like the fact numix have a custom
openbox theme, the wm I almost use :)
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526[04:49:05] <awal1> only the orange color disturbs me a bit
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527[04:49:29] <nic_> sames
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530[04:55:32] <zerocool> hi guys, would it be okay to pull the
latest kernel from stretch-backports with jessie?
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531[04:56:14] <zerocool> jessie-backports provides up to 4.9, i
need to get over 4.14 to avoid a bug with btrfs
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535[04:59:13] <awal1> nic_, looks like there is an app for edit
a few themes, including numix. I am trying it
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536[04:59:22] <awal1> not yet in debian
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539[05:00:05] <Devastator> zerocool can't you go to stretch
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541[05:03:06] <nic_> too much hassle tbh
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557[05:08:41] <zerocool> Devastator: i would rather keep it
simple and only update a kernel if possible. production fileservers.
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558[05:08:50] <petn-randall> zerocool: Why not upgrade to
stretch? btrfs in jessie wasn't even production-ready, AFAIR.
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559[05:10:16] <zerocool> petn-randall: it was and i am using 4.9
(from jessie-backports). raid5 and 6 were unstable but tue
filesystem itself has been stable for a while
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560[05:10:58] <zerocool> the*
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563[05:11:31] <Devastator> if it a production fileserver I
would: 1- make a backup, 2- update to stretch, 3- use the kernel
from stretch-backports
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565[05:11:58] * petn-randall agrees.
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567[05:12:32] <Devastator> using 4.14 in jessie can break things
badly, it is a gamble you don't wanna take, especially when
production word is involved..
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568[05:13:03] <zerocool> Devastator: well that is exactly why i
asked.
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569[05:13:28] <petn-randall> zerocool: We also asked you if you
can update to stretch.
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573[05:14:10] <zerocool> i know, i answered.
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600[05:29:54] <SSD-newbie> I've just installed Debian 9 on
my laptop's Micron_1100_MTFDDAV256TBN SSD SATA M.2 drive. I am
reading the
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618[05:44:31] <buu> Does anyone know of a good cpu
temperature/frequency monitor for the threadripper socket?
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624[05:52:01] <buu> Or failing that
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625[05:52:07] <buu> How do I get 4.15 on debian?
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627[05:53:14] <sveta> 4.15 what?
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629[05:53:24] <dvs> kernel
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630[05:53:27] <Logg> linux
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633[05:54:36] <temy> buu: the debian way or not?
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637[05:56:15] <buu> temy: Anything tht works!
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638[05:56:26] <Logg> i'd be curious in the "debian
way"
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639[05:56:29] <buu> The more stable sane debian way
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640[05:56:30] <buu> would be nice
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641[05:57:08] <Logg> I bet "the debian way" is to wait
about 6 months
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642[05:57:15] <buu> -_-
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644[05:57:39] <buu> Well, there's certainly tools to fairly
easily build a deb for a given image
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647[05:58:09] <dvs> make deb-pkg?
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652[05:58:48] <temy> Debian has a documentation about compiling
the kernel (including in the debian way, although it is useless for
4.15):
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653[05:59:00] <buu> useless for 4.15?
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654[05:59:50] <temy> Is there linux 4.15 in sid? Experimental?
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657[06:00:05] <Logg> so it's not even in sid
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659[06:01:28] <SSD-newbie> systemctl enable fstrim.time : Failed
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660[06:01:33] <SSD-newbie> what gives?
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664[06:06:17] <buu> temy: I need hwmon-next for the tr4 socket
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665[06:06:28] <temy> Does linux 4.15 (and future mainline
versions) in debian's experimental have binary blobs removed
like in stable?
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672[06:09:18] <annadane> temy, my understanding is that debian
always uses kernels with the non free bits removed
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673[06:09:49] <temy> That's good to know
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677[06:10:04] <annadane> i don't know whether 4.15
currently in experimental has blobs or not - i would imagine not -
but for "final release" (even into sid) any of those will
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681[06:13:23] <buu> So what's the sanest way to get 4.15
running right now?
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682[06:13:43] <annadane> right now? i think you can backport
your own kernel, unsure on the details
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684[06:13:53] <annadane> it's probably on the wiki, lemme
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687[06:16:10] <temy> buu: if you don't want the blobs, you
would have to wait for 4.15 to be stable (because linux-libre
don't have mainline last I searche), unless you know how to
remove them
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689[06:16:26] <temy> and it is unclear whether debian removes
blobs in the experimental kernel
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704[06:22:37] <buu> So is there any specific reason I should
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705[06:22:55] <buu> Is there a standard set of debian specific
configurations I can just apply to the new 4.15?
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773[07:37:09] <vutral|kali> how do i remount / read-only
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774[07:37:51] <Strogg> 'lo 'lo
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775[07:38:33] <vutral|kali> what
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780[07:40:43] <Strogg> so.. I'm setting up an encrypted
swap partition.. the guide says to just use the path name for the
partition (ie: /dev/sda2), but my system wasn't liking that for
some reason.. systemd wasn't using the swap. but if I type the
commands by hand (cryptdisks_start swap; swapon -a), it works fine.
what am I missing?
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781[07:41:50] <Strogg> I tried using the uuid instead, but it
kept saying the device didn't exist
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784[07:45:16] <bolt> Strogg: please pastebin the files relevant
to the modifications you made. that would be your fstab lines and
crypttab, i believe
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785[07:45:22] <Strogg> vutral|kali: just use the remount option
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787[07:45:33] <Strogg> vutral|kali: mount -oremount,ro /
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790[07:45:48] <vutral|kali> Strogg, if i do that its still
mounted read-write
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791[07:46:09] <klys> vutral|kali, # mount -o remount,ro /
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793[07:46:38] <Strogg> grr. sorry. flaky keyboard
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795[07:47:32] <Strogg> bolt: alternately, how do I get the uuid
of a partition that is going to be encrypted?
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799[07:50:32] <Strogg> also, I don't understand, why my
boot and / partitions have UUIDs, but my swap partition
doesn't, even through they are all type linux (id 83)
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802[07:52:53] <somiaj> uuid's are part of the file system,
and swap file system is not the same as ext4
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803[07:53:30] <Strogg> but my partitions are encrypted... so is
the swap partion.. shouldn't it be the same?
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804[07:53:46] <somiaj> did you make the swap filesystem, mkswap,
it that should assign it a uuid which should be visable in blkid
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806[07:54:00] <n4dir> duh, blkid, thanks somiaj
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809[07:54:24] <somiaj> oh, unsure how uuid's are dealt with
in encrypted partitions, since they are usually part of the
filesystem.
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810[07:54:49] <Strogg> hrmm lemme reboot again and see if I can
see the message
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812[07:54:56] <Strogg> I wish systemd would show a damn error
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813[07:55:15] <somiaj> did you midir /var/log/journal so
journalctl keeps logs over reboots?
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814[07:55:20] <somiaj> mkdir (not midir)
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815[07:55:25] <Strogg> are there any flags I can pass to grub to
make systemd easier to debug?
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816[07:55:40] <somiaj> you can remove the quiet flag in
/etc/default/grub
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817[07:55:53] <Strogg> somiaj: hrmm didn't know that was a
thing.. I'll do both those and reboot
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818[07:55:54] <Strogg> thanks!
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819[07:56:08] <somiaj> you'll have to run update-grub after
editing the default file
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822[07:57:21] <Strogg> afk for a bit.. rebooting.
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824[07:57:54] <bolt> Strogg: please pastebin the files relevant
to the modifications you made. that would be your fstab lines and
crypttab, i believe
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846[08:10:12] <Strogg> weird... I got it working.. but I
didn't do anything I didn't do before
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962[09:15:42] <buu> !kernel-package
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963[09:15:42] <dpkg> [kernel-package] Obsolete. Use <kernel
handbook> instead. Used to be The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude
install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and
follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz.
You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra>
and <kernel build-deps>.
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964[09:15:54] <buu> !kernel handbook
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965[09:15:55] <dpkg> The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook
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1071[10:04:47] <hiya> Does Debian gnu/linux installers trim SSD
when you install distro on a brand new SSD?
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1073[10:05:53] <petn-randall> hiya: I think the default is not to
trim (since that can cause I/O errors on some buggy SSDs), but you
can easily set it yourself.
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1074[10:06:08] <hiya> petn-randall: How?
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1075[10:06:26] <hiya> I have Samsung 850 EVO SSD
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1076[10:06:29] <hiya> Which is good quality
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1082[10:08:47] <petn-randall> hiya: Given Samsung's track
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1087[10:12:24] <colo-work> afair, recent-ish mke2fs does issue a
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1088[10:12:49] <colo-work> but there's no online
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1089[10:13:00] <Antoninus> What's the actual name of the
glibc package? Kinda confused
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1090[10:13:05] <colo-work> (and you probably shouldn't do
that, unless it's a desktop system with no hard performance
guarantees)
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1092[10:14:28] <petn-randall> Antoninus: libc6
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1093[10:14:36] <Antoninus> petn-randall, thanks
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1102[10:21:28] <Antoninus> What do I have to do to make
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1103[10:21:47] <JackFrost> If you use compat 10, it'll
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1109[10:23:39] <Antoninus> JackFrost, compat 10 what?
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1112[10:25:08] <JackFrost> Antoninus: DH compat 10. However,
depending on how d/rules is done, you can also just add --parallel
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hoping that I could set a flag or something
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DH_OPTIONS="-parallel" doesn't seem to help me
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1151[10:44:47] <Antoninus> Arch's PKGBUILD system is so much
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1154[10:46:28] <bazhang> Antoninus, are you using debian
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1156[10:46:39] <Antoninus> bazhang, yep :P
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1158[10:46:52] <bazhang> Antoninus, what are you trying to do
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1159[10:47:18] <Antoninus> bazhang, already doing it
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1160[10:47:42] <Antoninus> But the steps are convoluted as hell
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1161[10:48:00] <bazhang> Antoninus, then tell us what it is you
are doing
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1162[10:48:11] <Antoninus> bazhang, rebuilding a package
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1191[11:01:10] <themill> Antoninus: for most packages, if you
want parallel building you just say that is what you want to the
builder (-jN)
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1192[11:01:26] <g105b> What tools are available to keep two
folders in sync, where one folder is a NFS mount? inotify
doesn't work on NFS mounts.
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1193[11:02:57] <themill> Antoninus: (also, you probably
don't really need debuild; dpkg-buildpackage should be
sufficient)
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1198[11:06:13] <Antoninus> themill, I'm using debuild right
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1321[12:00:42] <Casper366> hi. I somehow can't manage to
update from 9.1 to 9.3 (or 9.2). I tried adding
"stretch-updates" to my sources.list. I tried
full-upgrade, but nothing seems to work. Can someone help?
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1322[12:01:22] <petn-randall> !stretch sources.list
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1323[12:01:22] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
"Stretch" has three lines: "deb
replaced-url
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1324[12:01:51] <petn-randall> Casper366: ^^^ these should be in
your /etc/apt/sources.list. If you still have problems, try
supplying the following info:
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1325[12:01:54] <petn-randall> !bat
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1326[12:01:55] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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1349[12:11:46] <Casper366> petn-randall: This is my output for
"sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade" and "apt-cache
policy".
replaced-url
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1369[12:19:29] <bsdnoob> is deb.debian.org mirror acting up
today?
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1370[12:19:55] <bsdnoob> is deb.debian.org mirror acting up
today?
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1374[12:20:50] <jsoft> Is there some application/package which
runs daily diffs / info like bsd does ?
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1389[12:28:23] <Casper366> petn-randall: Upon reading a bit i
found that i might already be on 9.3, because one just has to update
the mirrors (which seem to be correct in my sources.list). Is it
correct that by upgrading the kernel-version doesnt change?
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1392[12:28:52] <Casper366> , because "uname -rv" prints
"4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u1 (2017-12-23)"
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1401[12:35:23] <petn-randall> Casper366: The kernel version stays
the same, it'll only get patches on each point release. That
means stretch will always have 4.9, just the patch level will
increase with time.
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1406[12:36:30] <Casper366> petn-randall: the thing that was
bothering me was +deb9u1, which i expected to be +deb9u3
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1407[12:36:31] <petn-randall> Casper366: That error you're
getting is due to not having set up that opensuse repo correctly.
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1410[12:36:37] <petn-randall> ,kernels
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1411[12:36:38] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.15.0-rc5-686-pae (4.15~rc5-1~exp1); sid:
4.14.0-2-686-pae (4.14.7-1); buster: 4.14.0-2-686-pae (4.14.7-1);
stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.65-3+deb9u1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686
(4.9.65-3+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.51-2);
wheezy-backports:
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1412[12:36:39] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.96-2)
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1413[12:36:58] <petn-randall> Casper366: No, it should be
4.9.65-3+deb9u1
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1415[12:37:17] <petn-randall> Casper366: The +deb9uX doesn't
indicated the point release in any way.
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1416[12:37:22] <petn-randall> -d
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1420[12:38:26] <Casper366> ok, so i guess my system is up to date
then. But i don't understand, why I didn't have any
updates in weeks?
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1421[12:39:09] <petn-randall> Casper366: Did you run 'apt
upgrade'?
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1422[12:39:13] <Casper366> yes
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1423[12:39:34] <Casper366> sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade
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1424[12:40:49] <petn-randall> Casper366: Maybe you're
auto-updating by some other means? /var/log/apt/history.log could
tell you.
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1426[12:43:07] <Casper366> i see, there were a few in the
unattendet-upgrade. Is there a way to configure my system to pop me
a mail if it upgrades unattended?
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1430[12:44:16] <Casper366> found a link:
replaced-url
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1433[12:44:58] <Casper366> petn-randall, thank you sir. you
helped me a great deal.
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1506[13:25:09] <jelly> !qotd0
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1507[13:25:10] <dpkg> <yevgeniy2> !sest <yevgeniy2>
!test <yevgeniy2> !test <yevgeniy2> !test -!- yevgeniy2
was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood] <dpkg> No,
yevgeniy2, you're not online any more.
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1538[13:33:26] <lbr> o/ Any idea why client is unable to write to
NFS share when mounted via `mount -rw` but can do so when mounted
via `nautilus` GUI?
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1778[15:54:05] <magnus__> Hi all and happy new year!
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1784[15:55:39] <c-c> magnus__: HNY!
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1785[15:56:05] <magnus__> Is there a debian after hour chat?
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1786[15:56:29] <c-c> perhaps you can make #debian-offtopic if it
doesn't exist? remember to invo
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1787[15:56:30] <c-c> ite
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1788[15:56:42] <petn-randall> magnus__: There's
#debian-offtopic for social chat.
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1789[15:56:53] <magnus__> thanks guys!
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1794[16:01:18] <limbo_> How do I use pip with pypy? The package
suggested by ensurepip doesn't exist.
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1796[16:02:12] <petn-randall> limbo_: Where are you getting
ensurepip from?
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1806[16:06:55] <limbo_> petn-randall: it's the packaged
version. If possible, I'd prefer to use mainly packaged
software, but I need to get pip working with pypy to run youtube-dl
with pypy.
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1810[16:08:13] <c-c> maybe you can make a .deb out of the other
version, and install that using dpkg
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1811[16:08:20] <ppssxx> i have stolen a laptop with debian
installed but the account is password protected,how i can access the
files giving in mind that they are not encrypted?
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1817[16:10:03] <SirLagz> ppssxx: maybe you should return the
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1819[16:10:09] <jelly> ppssxx, freenode network has rules against
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1820[16:10:28] <jelly> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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1823[16:10:48] <ppssxx> omg i will format it and sell it on the
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1824[16:11:04] <jelly> SirLagz, amazing how they know it has
debian installed, tho!
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1825[16:11:15] <SirLagz> jelly: indeed
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1826[16:13:00] <JustASlacker> checkinstall is nice
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1828[16:13:19] <petn-randall> limbo_: I don't know what
you're talking about, "ensurepip" doesn't exist
in Debian. If you want pip, install python-pip, if you want
youtube-dl, just install that Debian package.
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1833[16:13:51] <JustASlacker> maybe ask #python too
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1834[16:14:47] <c-c> youtube-dl works fine in stable
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1836[16:15:06] <c-c> at least for sites I've used it for
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1838[16:15:38] <petn-randall> ppssxx: Bulgarian authorities would
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1877[16:36:11] <n4dir> my guess is that the data on a stolen
laptop can be accessed in the same manner like on a laptop where the
password is simply forgotten. Wild guessing though.
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1882[16:40:20] <ppssxx> n4dir : so any sugestions?
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1886[16:41:18] <petn-randall> ppssxx: What model is this?
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1888[16:41:29] <ppssxx> lenovo
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1892[16:42:15] <n4dir> sure. Use a searchengine of choice
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1893[16:42:31] <petn-randall> ppssxx: I see, what's the
serial number on the bottom of the device?
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1894[16:42:54] <ppssxx> that is not important
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1896[16:43:26] <petn-randall> You see, some models you
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1917[16:51:15] <wberg> petn-randall : it's probably just
some kid
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1939[16:58:22] <Craig_> where is /etc/network/interfaces or its
equivalent in debian 9 please?
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1944[16:59:27] <TellMeMore> That's where it is - if you use
a GUI, you probably want to set up your network using NetworkManager
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1947[16:59:58] <Craig_> no, i dont have a gui, and it appears to
be missing
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1949[17:00:11] <Craig_> im not entirely sure where its getting
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1950[17:00:26] <TellMeMore> do you have ifupdown installed?
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1952[17:00:40] <Craig_> does that provide ifup and ifdown
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1953[17:00:42] <Craig_> if so yes
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1955[17:00:55] <Craig_> it was installed as standard with the OS
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1964[17:02:59] <pooping_ape> Im ppxxss `s brother, he actualy
found forgotten laptop on a bench and waited for somebody to take
it,unfortunately nobody came. So thats why he`s asking here.
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1968[17:04:29] <petn-randall> pooping_ape: I'm sure you can
return it to the police.
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1972[17:05:05] <nkuttler> pooping_ape: or to your local linux
user group. i doubt the police are competent enough to find the
owner..
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1978[17:06:10] <TellMeMore> *Craig_ don't know what
configured your dhcp in that case. Anything in
/etc/network/interfaces.d/?
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1979[17:06:21] <asdfasdf> Anyone got a clue why I can't find
"linux-source-4.14_4.14.7-1~bpo9+1_all.deb" in apt-cache
search when clearly I use stretch-backports and I can see 4.13 in
there?
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1980[17:06:22] <Craig_> its not dhcp
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1981[17:06:27] <TellMeMore> oh
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1982[17:06:30] <Craig_> and interfaces.d is empty
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1983[17:06:38] <Craig_> its a dedicated server in a datacenter
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1984[17:06:46] <annadane> ,kernels
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1986[17:06:47] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.15.0-rc5-686-pae (4.15~rc5-1~exp1); sid:
4.14.0-2-686-pae (4.14.7-1); buster: 4.14.0-2-686-pae (4.14.7-1);
stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.65-3+deb9u1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686
(4.9.65-3+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.51-2);
wheezy-backports:
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1987[17:06:48] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.96-2)
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1988[17:06:54] <petn-randall> asdfasdf: What is the *exact*
command you're using?
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1990[17:06:58] <Craig_> i wanted to add additional ips, and right
now im having to do it via rc.local :/
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1991[17:07:24] <asdfasdf> petn-randall: it's not found even
with a simple apt-cache search 4.14
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1992[17:07:31] <TellMeMore> Craig_: `grep $ADDRESS /etc` ?
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1993[17:07:36] <TellMeMore> sorry
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1994[17:07:39] <TellMeMore> grep -r
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1995[17:07:46] <asdfasdf> that source doesn't exist in
backports here when it clearly exists on the web
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1996[17:07:54] <petn-randall> !bat
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1997[17:07:54] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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1998[17:08:01] <asdfasdf> it exists here
replaced-url
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1999[17:08:06] <petn-randall> asdfasdf: ^^^ Can you provide all
of this in a single paste?
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2001[17:08:20] <Craig_> the only matches of that are in fail2ban,
TellMeMore
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2003[17:08:24] <petn-randall> ,v linux-source-4.14
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2004[17:08:25] <judd> Package: linux-source-4.14 on amd64 -- sid:
4.14.2-1; stretch-backports: 4.14.7-1~bpo9+1; buster: 4.14.7-1; sid:
4.14.7-1
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2005[17:08:53] <TellMeMore> Craig_: weird
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2007[17:09:16] <asdfasdf> petn-randall: can you find practically
find it in a stretch with backports? I only see up to 4.13 here and
only on the web I see 4.14.
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2008[17:09:36] <asdfasdf> and I used a default mirror + another
one as a test.
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2010[17:09:45] <Craig_> bloody systemd!
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2011[17:09:46] <Craig_> its here
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2012[17:09:47] <Craig_> systemd/network/50-default.network
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2013[17:09:54] <Craig_> and i dont recognise the format at all
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2014[17:09:56] <Craig_> its like an ini file
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2015[17:09:57] <petn-randall> asdfasdf: I'm not running
stretch on this machine, that's why I asked for more info.
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2016[17:09:58] <pooping_ape> petn-randall , nkuttler : i will
tell him :)
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2018[17:10:06] <Craig_> i grepped all of /etc for my public ip
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2019[17:10:10] <petn-randall> Craig_: That's not a default
Debian setup, though. Is this a VPS?
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2020[17:10:13] <TellMeMore> Craig_: yup, systemd-networkd
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2021[17:10:32] <Craig_> no its a dedicated server, installed on a
blade like device from an image i think
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2028[17:11:12] <petn-randall> Craig_: I'm asking because
systemd-networkd isn't used by default in Debian, you have to
explicitely install it and set it up.
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2029[17:11:22] <petn-randall> Craig_: OVH? That explains it, I
guess.
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2030[17:11:27] <Craig_> ew
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2034[17:12:24] <asdfasdf> petn-randall: well clearly it's
not found:
replaced-url
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2035[17:12:58] <asdfasdf> sources clearly include backports and
it's found on the web.
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2043[17:14:28] <petn-randall> asdfasdf: That is not the data I
asked for, please read the !bat factoid again.
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2044[17:14:41] <TellMeMore> Craig_: I'm mildly surprised
that anyone uses systemd-networkd in production, but hey, to each
their own, am I right?
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2068[17:24:29] <Craig_> TellMeMore: yeah, i didnt ask for it :/
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2070[17:25:37] <asdfasdf> petn-randall: well it's not found
to do 2. so 1. and 3.
replaced-url
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2073[17:26:54] <asdfasdf> I know it's related to it not
having built packages left but why is it found on the web and not on
the distribution?
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2074[17:27:01] <asdfasdf> s/left/yet
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2076[17:28:16] <petn-randall> asdfasdf: You're still missing
the output of 'apt-cache policy linux-source-4.14'.
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2078[17:29:18] <asdfasdf> petn-randall: because as I said
it's not found, but here it is:
replaced-url
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2085[17:33:02] <petn-randall> asdfasdf: And you ran 'apt
update' before?
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2087[17:33:11] <asdfasdf> petn-randall: yes
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2090[17:34:08] <asdfasdf> petn-randall: I even tried to add a
deb-src line (the rest same) for backports but that did nothing.
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2093[17:34:46] <petn-randall> asdfasdf: I just checked on my
stretch machine, it's not available there yet, either. I guess
it's just still building.
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2094[17:35:00] <asdfasdf> but it's odd that is found on the
web,
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2095[17:35:13] <asdfasdf> linux-image does not exist on the web,
I know that
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2097[17:35:23] <asdfasdf> I just wonder why I can't find
linux-source for it
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2099[17:37:03] <jhutchins_wk> asdfasdf: So as far as you know
there never was a 4.14 kernel for stretch?
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2100[17:37:35] <jhutchins_wk> Isn't the source the same no
matter which release it's for?
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2101[17:37:35] <petn-randall> asdfasdf: The p.d.o site might get
updated faster than the mirrors.
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2102[17:37:56] <asdfasdf> jhutchins_wk: there isn't an
image, but there is source on web mirrors
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2105[17:38:15] <asdfasdf> petn-randall: it's cool, I just
got it from the web and it installs fine with dpkg apparently.
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2107[17:38:28] <asdfasdf> puts the three files in /usr/src
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2114[17:40:22] <petn-randall> asdfasdf: You just can't
verify the package signatures that way.
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2119[17:42:14] <Craig_> TellMeMore: i found out how to do it,
then took the plunge and restarted systemd-networkd and crossed my
fingers, nothing blew up
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2124[17:42:43] <Craig_> im not a big fan of systemd though, it
seems overengineered
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2125[17:42:46] <TellMeMore> Craig_: cool, just one more Address=
line, right?
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2128[17:43:12] <Craig_> not quite, i could have done that but ive
read people saying it doesnt always work and only takes the first,
but it always seems to work if each new Address= is in its own
[Address] block
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2129[17:43:21] <Craig_> so i went for that instead, "just in
case"
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2132[17:44:03] <petn-randall> Craig_: You can probably just check
the documentation that comes with it.
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2133[17:44:04] <TellMeMore> yeesh, hope you had a serial console,
just in case
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2134[17:44:26] <Craig_> its got ipmi, which i /think/ can be used
for a remote console
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2135[17:44:35] <Craig_> ive not used it before though
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2137[17:44:40] <Craig_> (not had to)
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2138[17:45:21] <TellMeMore> I've had both good and bad
experiences with systemd, but afaik networkd is a separate daemon,
not a core systemd thing
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2139[17:45:33] <Craig_> last time i broke something like this was
freebsd, i typoed the gateway address, had to have someone drive to
the dc and plug a monitor and keyboard in...
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2145[17:46:15] <petn-randall> Pretty much most parts are separate
services/processes in the system ecosystem, but you're also
free to ignore them.
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2146[17:46:39] <petn-randall> They're only really favoured
by embedded developers.
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2150[17:47:27] <Craig_> i think theyre using systemd because it
hooks into their monitoring system
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2152[17:47:54] <TellMeMore> Craig_: lesson lerned the hard way.
Next time, try this: create the new config file separately, and bind
mount it when testing. Run a `sleep 3600 && reboot` command
in the background
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2153[17:48:11] <petn-randall> Well, you don't have any
run-away forks of daemons with systemd, which is important since you
have little ressources to play with.
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2185[17:56:28] <awal1> any command for check which stuff are
using swap¿
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2186[17:56:30] <awal1> ?
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2191[17:57:26] <bolovanos> hithere
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2197[17:58:21] <bolovanos> I have mysql installed (MariaDB...), I
am trying to change listening IP from 127 to machine IP, I did that
by adding "bind-address = 0.0.0.0" to /etc/mysql/my.cnf
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2202[17:59:46] <bolovanos> but doing : mysql -u (or --help, ...)
prints "mysql: unknown variable
'bind-address=0.0.0.0'"
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2215[18:03:11] <petn-randall> awal1: There's only one
"stuff" using swap; it's the kernel.
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2218[18:03:56] <awal1> petn-randall, just kernel?
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2221[18:04:34] <awal1> ok, i get your idea
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2225[18:04:48] <awal1> found it: smem pkg. "smem -s
swap"
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2234[18:06:59] <bolovanos> ok - moved it to
"/etc/mysql/mariadb.conf.d/50-server.cnf" did something
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2414[19:01:36] <limbo_> petn-randall: I can run youtube-dl just
fine with cpython, but pypy can't see it.
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2415[19:01:57] <limbo_> I'm trying to run youube-dl with
pypy, and am unable to.
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2418[19:02:38] <limbo_> I asked about ensurepip because
there's no pypy-pip or pypy-youtube-dl package to install it
from otherwise.
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2470[19:24:56] <prompt32> hello, i have a problem read/mount/or
even destroy my SD card. Can somebody take a look at this ?
replaced-url
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2474[19:27:59] <JustASlacker> yeah, looks kaput
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2481[19:31:51] <prompt32> JustASlacker, if this is for me, is not
kaput at all, from the phone, using 'USB as storage', i
can see finaly in lsblk the /dev/sdc1, and i can mount, delete,
write, even format the card
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2498[19:38:33] <RoyK> prompt32: try to run ddrescue on it to see
if it can be red
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card reader
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2523[19:50:02] <prompt32> RoyK, i just run with: ddrescue -v -s
1G ..., i send the out in a while
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2550[19:59:39] <prompt32> RoyK,
replaced-url
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2555[20:01:20] <RoyK> prompt32: doesn't look so, no
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2560[20:03:15] <RoyK> prompt32: do you have any valuable data on
that thing?
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2572[20:07:09] <prompt32> ii take my data, but i have another
that i didnt, but that maybee is encrypted, will see. May target is
to format this, to pass raspbian for my raspberry. and i can find
any way to format it, here in my pc, i dont get it
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2573[20:07:26] <prompt32> ^ My target ...
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2575[20:07:42] <RoyK> prompt32: I guess it's busted
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2576[20:07:56] <RoyK> prompt32: try it somewhere else
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2579[20:08:39] <prompt32> RoyK, no, i did this 15min before, the
backup,
replaced-url
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2581[20:08:55] <prompt32> its perfect valid, brand-new
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2582[20:09:16] <RoyK> well, try it somewhere else
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2585[20:09:26] <RoyK> the PC doesn't beleive it's valid
at all AFAICS
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2591[20:09:59] <prompt32> i just put it in the phone, I think,
ok, i put it in the phone, i fromat it, so my pc will recognize, and
i pass what i want inside, ,,,,
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2592[20:10:03] <RoyK> prompt32: if it were incrypted, you'd
still see it as a block device
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2595[20:10:45] <gluon> i install firefox nightly via flatpak on
debian stable but can't make it the default browser, probably
because of this:
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2596[20:10:46] <gluon>
replaced-url
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2597[20:11:01] <gluon> obviously the flatpak version of firefox
doesn't update the alternatives
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2598[20:11:07] <gluon> but could i do it manually?
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2599[20:11:29] <gluon> so that i could then set the flatpak
version of firefox the default alterntive
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2600[20:11:36] <prompt32> RoyK, so you think is a PC problem ,
not an OS setting ?
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2689[20:40:00] <Kobaz> having trouble with sysstat/sar... i have
enabled=true in /etc/default/sysstat
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2690[20:40:20] <Kobaz> looks like sysstat is running from cron...
yet: running sar... Cannot open /var/log/sysstat/sa02: Not a
directory
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2691[20:40:52] <Kobaz> looks like sysstat is writing to
/var/log/sysstat as a file, not a directory, and when sar goes to
read it, well, it's not there
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2699[20:44:57] <jhutchins_wk> Kobaz: Which release?
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2709[20:47:46] <Kobaz> jessie
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2711[20:47:54] <Kobaz> hmm, actually i think i got it
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2712[20:48:05] <Kobaz> i deleted /var/log/sysstat and did mkdir
/var/log/sysstat
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2713[20:48:10] <Kobaz> seems like it's writing it properly
now
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2720[20:53:09] <apteryx_> Hello! I can't seem to disable
password for my user for sudo? I tried 'sudo visudo'
{input password}, then add the line: myuser ALL=(ALL:ALL)
NOPASSWD:ALL
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2721[20:53:26] <apteryx_> Then I logout, login, and doing
'sudo -i' prompts for a password... :/.
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2728[20:59:02] <Kobaz> apteryx_: myuser ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
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2739[21:06:51] <apteryx_> Kobaz: this also doesn't seem to
work. Maybe something is clashing. When I define the rule on a group
and add myself to that group it works.
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2788[21:34:37] <Agiofws> Hello
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2792[21:36:11] <Agiofws> Probably after upgrading deviant to 9
I'm having some Network connecting issues could be the Linux
driver for WiFi card
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2795[21:36:44] <towo`> deviant?
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2796[21:36:48] <towo`> what's that?
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2799[21:38:05] <Agiofws> The Windows machine connected to the
land has better have a better response and the create on Google,
almost instantly on the screen the death machine is connected by
ethernet what other machine with host Linux has a WiFi card and the
Grammys on Google allo even when I want to go to site don't
justify the time it takes to get a response
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2800[21:38:15] <Agiofws> Debian*
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2803[21:38:53] <Namarrgon> your spellchecker was not worth its
money
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2804[21:39:27] <Agiofws> Lol it's speech to text :) sorry...
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2805[21:40:11] <Agiofws> Anyway it's an atheros chipset
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2809[21:41:34] <Agiofws> Could it be an existing fw?
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2810[21:42:09] <Exagone313> Agiofws: run `lspci` and get the
model number
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2811[21:42:19] <Agiofws> Done that already
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2812[21:42:40] <Agiofws> Atheros 5212
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2816[21:44:54] <Agiofws> ath5k that's the driver I'm
using
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2819[21:45:13] <somiaj> do you have firmware-atheros installed?
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2820[21:45:31] <Agiofws> But the WiFi card or network is
unbelievably slow...
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2823[21:46:03] <Agiofws> Yes I do if that doesn't mean
including some special repository
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2825[21:46:36] <Exagone313> Agiofws: do you have ipv6 working?
maybe there is a bad configuration about that
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2826[21:46:41] <somiaj> Agiofws: non-free is not added by
default, so it may. check if you have it installed and it is the
most recent version, what is the output of 'apt policy
firmware-atheros'
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2828[21:47:04] <Exagone313> or do you really get low speed (like
when downloading a file)?
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2829[21:47:21] <somiaj> also check local network too, make sure
it isn't your router doing some priority thing
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2830[21:48:00] <Agiofws> Ok wait let me turn on the Linux host
and log in from there
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2831[21:48:41] <Agiofws> You think it's prioritizing
ethernet to WiFi?
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2832[21:49:38] <SuperTramp83> somiaj: the ath5k module is all
they need.
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2836[21:50:13] <SuperTramp83> That particular model isn't
even supported by the non-free firmware you mention AFAIK
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2838[21:50:27] <somiaj> wifi will be slower than a wired
ethernet, so if comparing the speeds between the two, you will
notice a difference.
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2840[21:50:40] <somiaj> SuperTramp83: ahh, I don't use
atheros cards so don't keep track of which ones require
non-free firmware and which don't.
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2844[21:51:24] <somiaj> Agiofws: as SuperTramp83 mentioned, seems
your card won't need firmware. YOu may want to check demsg for
any warnings related to your interface to help debug this.
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2846[21:52:11] <SuperTramp83> Yes, indeed, dmesg* might just
clear it for you, try that, Agiofws
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2848[21:53:14] <agiofws_> just a sec
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2849[21:53:14] <agiofws_> cant even paste to pastebin too slow
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2851[21:53:56] <agiofws_> something is really realy wrong
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2852[21:54:26] <agiofws_>
replaced-url
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2855[21:55:16] <somiaj> we don't like pastebin anyways,
though paste.debian.net may not be faster
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2857[21:56:25] <agiofws_> .net still loading :P
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2859[21:57:04] <agiofws_> somiaj,
replaced-url
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2861[21:57:16] <agiofws_> you want dmesg ?
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2862[21:57:59] <somiaj> agiofws_: there is a lot there, maybe you
can look through it first see if anything looks like wifi issues.
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2864[21:58:07] <somiaj> but if you want others to look it over,
then yes.
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2867[21:58:55] <agiofws_> should i grep anything?
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2869[21:59:31] <somiaj> I don't know any thing to grep that
would get the useful ifno.
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2870[21:59:33] <agiofws_>
replaced-url
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2879[22:01:37] <agiofws_> i mean even connecting to the web
interface of the modem/router is not instant
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2880[22:01:51] <somiaj> agiofws_: not sure what the problem is,
but you have a lot of wlan0 messages about authenticating over and
over again, it is like it cannot keep connected to your ap
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2881[22:01:57] <somiaj> is this your only wireless device on this
network?
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2884[22:02:38] <agiofws_> no
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2886[22:02:59] <agiofws_> might be another 2-4 atleast
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2888[22:03:09] <agiofws_> 2-3
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2893[22:03:17] <somiaj> agiofws_: and they are all working just
fine? I found this,
replaced-url
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2894[22:03:30] <somiaj> what channel is your wifi configured it
use? Is it auto?
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2895[22:03:37] <agiofws_> cell phone all work fine
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2896[22:03:43] <agiofws_> just this host
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2898[22:04:17] <somiaj> I would check what wifi channel your
network is using, if it is auto, change it to something, or if it is
something, change it to something else. But something is causing the
debian bok to keep disconnecting from the ap
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2905[22:05:24] <somiaj> found another issue where were there was
multiple tools manging the network. What tool do you use to control
your network? Could you have different wants conflicting with each
other?
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2907[22:06:09] <agiofws_> i don't know
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2909[22:06:25] <agiofws_> i'm using gnome
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2910[22:06:44] <somiaj> anyways, it says it is deassoicating for
a local reason, so either the channel negoation is not working, or
you have multiple things configuring your network. I would check
what services/network stuff is running
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2911[22:07:04] <somiaj> gnome uses network-manager by default
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2914[22:07:59] <agiofws_> how would i check for services?
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2915[22:08:12] <somiaj> systemctl status
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2917[22:08:21] <somiaj> also look at ps fax -- see what process
are running
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2920[22:08:31] <somiaj> check if you have your network configured
in /etc/network/interfaces
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2922[22:09:20] <ShaivamRU> hi all
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2923[22:10:15] <ShaivamRU> Debian testing & mate, about 3-5
month there is no icons of some applications in tray.
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2924[22:11:23] <ShaivamRU> debian-next is closed for me
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2925[22:11:43] <ShaivamRU> but once for this time i've seen
all icons
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2926[22:11:48] <apollo13> ShaivamRU: why would it be closed for
you?
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2927[22:12:05] <apollo13> and -testing is off-topic here
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2931[22:12:25] <apollo13> ShaivamRU: note that #debian-next is on
a different server
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2933[22:12:35] <ShaivamRU> thanks!
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2936[22:12:49] <apollo13> or at least was at some point, unless
that changed
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2938[22:13:48] <ShaivamRU> apollo13: where is it now?
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2943[22:14:46] <agiofws_> this is slower than dial up :P
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2945[22:15:04] <apollo13> ShaivamRU: dunno, that information
seems to be no longer in the topic
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2956[22:17:30] <agiofws_> ok i think its better now...
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help
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2961[22:20:16] <agiofws_> youtube though still does not display
its page its stall on the logo
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2998[22:33:36] <reber> hey all, i got this bug: **** Seccomp
prevented execution of syscall 0000000041 on architecture amd64 ****
when apt-get update any ideas ?
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2999[22:34:45] <jelly> !debian-next
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3000[22:34:45] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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3001[22:35:13] <jelly> reber, if you're running testing or
unstable, ask there ^ (different irc server!)
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3002[22:35:15] <apollo13> jelly: well yes, but it would be nice
if the topic told you that (or did I just miss it up there)
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3005[22:36:03] <jelly> you're right
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3009[22:36:48] *** jelly changes topic to 'Debian Stretch: /msg
dpkg stretch ; /msg dpkg 9.3 ; /msg dpkg jessie->stretch; /msg
dpkg install stretch | Oldstable: Debian Jessie /msg dpkg jessie ;
/msg dpkg 8.10 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people |
offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing, unstable: #debian-next @
irc.oftc.net | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog'
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3015[22:38:11] <jelly> it's not that anything testing is
automatically offtopic, it's that you're a lot more likely
to get help there
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3018[22:39:28] <ChunkzZ> is there a channel for support for
debian arm?
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3021[22:39:45] <jelly> !arm
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3022[22:39:45] <dpkg> Advanced RISC Machine (ARM) is a processor
architecture. The Debian arm port was deprecated at 5.0
"Lenny" with official support dropped at 6.0
"Squeeze", ask me about <armel> for the replacement
port. See also <armhf>.
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3025[22:40:17] <ChunkzZ> Cheers jelly
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3027[22:40:36] <jelly> dpkg: botsnack
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3028[22:40:36] <dpkg> jelly: aw, gee
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3198[23:37:05] <scootypuff> I'm trying to debug why my port
forwarding isn't working. does anyone know a way I can get a
remote terminal that I can use to ping my IP?
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3214[23:43:40] <TellMeMore> scootypuff: there are web sites that
will gladly ping you in exchange for some traffic, is that what you
need?
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3216[23:44:21] <scootypuff> TellMeMore:yes
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3218[23:44:30] <SwK> is there a reason in /etc/os-release
ID=debian is the only line where the value isnt quoted?
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3219[23:44:39] <TellMeMore> scootypuff: 1s of googling->
ping.eu/ping
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3220[23:44:57] <scootypuff> <TellMeMore>: well I need to
ping my port
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3221[23:45:16] <TellMeMore> scootypuff: ping.eu/port-chk/ :)
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3225[23:46:16] <Exagone313> Is there some plan to rewrite all
services into systemd units?
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3226[23:46:30] <scootypuff> TellMeMore: many thanks my friend
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3228[23:46:51] <TellMeMore> best of luck!
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3229[23:47:13] <somiaj> Exagone313: It may depend on what the
matainer wants to do. Since systemd provides support for init.d
scripts, some matainers may just ensure their scripts work with
systemd. But I belive most services already have unit files in the
package.
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3236[23:49:37] <Exagone313> Where can I read more about sysvinit
and systemd compatibility?
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3238[23:49:47] <Exagone313> (only on freedesktop doc?)
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3251[23:53:51] <Exagone313> got it
replaced-url
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3253[23:54:08] <toad_> Is there a backport package for a
reas