7[00:05:07] <Lope> ratrace, I got audio working. hard to say
exactly what did it. I put some crap in the qemu config, but
it's unlikely that did anything.
8[00:05:46] <Lope> then I saw some crap to put in a pulseaudio
config in the VM in the x2go faq. I put that in. nothing seemed to
happen. also did some manual command to load some pulseaudio module.
no dice.
12[00:06:26] <Lope> then I read somewhere about a potential
conflict. So I stopped the sddm service on in the vm, made sure
pulseaudio wasn't running on it. then i logged in with x2go
etc. no dice
13[00:07:12] <Lope> then I attached a usb sound device to the
VM, and a little while after that I heard a pop out of the non-usb
sound device. and then sound started working.
14[00:07:29] <Lope> Tomorrow I'll backtrack to see exactly
what fixed the sound.
22[00:10:54] <mzajc> My system starts swapping programs out
when I hit the 10 GB physical memory mark, even though I have 16 GB
installed. What could be causing this?
39[00:24:15] <Lope> ratrace, so in /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf I set
vnc_allow_host_audio = 1 (probably irrelevant since I'm not
using VNC) also I set nographics_allow_host_audio = 1 which is sort
of relevant but unlikely necessary. Since x2go pulls the audio out
of the VM via the SSH connection and I think this option relates to
the VM accessing pulseaudio on the host.
45[00:28:28] <Lope> ratrace, in conclusion, the x2go is a
pretty perfect experience. you feel like you're working on the
metal, aside from heavy tearing when you drag a window and of course
increased CPU usage if you play a youtube video etc.
46[00:28:55] <Lope> So far I've not been able to get
virt-viewer to work with multiple monitors. It is supposedly
possible...
103[01:15:41] <wr> sney, when i use systemctl i don't see
it here
104[01:16:47] <sney> there's no protonvpn package in debian
so you may want to look at their support/manual or look in the
package to see how it's set up
106[01:19:20] <sponix> sney: I have things in /etc/cron.d that
are not marked as executable, but I swear I just had one of the jobs
take off recently (zfs scrub)
107[01:19:54] <wr> sney, the service should be on systemctl
either way, no?
114[01:22:17] <sney> sponix: stuff in cron.d isn't shell
scripts so it doesn't need to be +x. zfsutils-linux does put a
file there that calls for a scrub the "second sunday of every
month"
115[01:22:34] <sney> shell scripts would go in cron.(hourly,
monthly, etc)
120[01:26:24] <sponix> sney: oh, how about I just #comment out
the line within it that has the cron line ?
121[01:26:29] <sney> I'm not sure what you think is the
downside of a scrub once a month. or are you scheduling it
separately?
122[01:26:33] <sney> yes you could comment it as well
123[01:26:34] <sponix> sney: would that work also ?
124[01:26:56] <sponix> sney: my rig just took a shit, and I am
trying to blame it on something :P
125[01:26:57] <wr> sney, when i run systemctl start
protonvpn.service have nothing here, but i do have a PID on root
4328 0.0 0.0 6076 824 pts/0 S+ 00:25 0:00 grep protonvpn
131[01:30:50] <sney> sponix: zfs scrub won't break
anything, but it can sometimes reveal an underlying hardware problem
132[01:32:59] <sponix> sney: that is what I'm afraid of.
That drive is new as of Christmas. I've never given it the
overnight badblocks check or such :P
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134[01:33:24] <sney> I've never done an overnight badblocks
check and I've been a linux nerd for around 20 years
135[01:33:37] <sney> just run some smart tests and if the drive
fails even one, return it under warranty
136[01:33:42] <sponix> sney: and my rig was running, it always
still is. It is just the X GUI that I lose
137[01:34:32] <sney> well, then that is probably a different
issue.
139[01:35:24] <sponix> sney: yeah, I had to change my composer
to compton recently, because the default one with xfce gets a CPU
race on me after a while (bug report already exist). So that was my
latest suspect of this GUI Lockup
140[01:35:48] <sponix> sney: prior to that, I actually suspected
it was the xscreensaver itself. So I disabled that from running
145[01:38:03] <sponix> sney: well, what actually made sense
prior was a failing Power Supply. But it is weird that the whole rig
still functions except the GUI when this takes place lol
146[01:38:31] <wr> sponix, if have a bad drive, forget badblock
just buy new one and get data out
147[01:39:01] <sney> if everything keeps working except the gui,
then that is pretty clearly a gpu problem. have you tried with
another gpu
148[01:39:44] <sney> if you have some older or buggy or just
defective vga adapter, with 1 bad ram chip, it might
"work" most of the time but then fail randomly. I've
seen it a lot over the years. replacing it makes the problem go
away.
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150[01:40:01] <sponix> sney: I could easily put the HDMI cable
into my other GTX 960 4GB Card :)
155[01:40:46] <sney> if you are running multiple gpus and you
have a video problem then STEP 1: NARROW IT DOWN TO 1 GPU
156[01:40:47] <sponix> sney: oh, the amount of vram on these 2
identical cards does report slightly different. But I've seen
that alot on GPUs in general
158[01:41:04] <sney> goofing around with software will never
teach you anything new and will just make you crazy with red
herrings
159[01:41:09] *** skittle_ is now known as skittle
160[01:41:31] <sney> get out your screwdriver and get to work.
nothing else will get anywhere
161[01:41:39] *** skittle is now known as Guest59096
162[01:42:14] <sponix> sney: I see... So you feel I am most
likely blaming software for what is more than likely a hardware
problem. And that is why I have been spinning my wheels on this ?
177[01:45:34] <usney> Is there any accessibly tools in debian to
help people who can't type so they can just talk to produce
text? This isn't for me but for a friend.
182[01:47:13] <sponix> sney: if anything, I can use my 580 for
the OS, and only 1 960 for nvenc... retiring one 960 (the unstable
one) to my Windows 10 Gaming rig :P
235[02:28:09] <sney> you pretty much just have to do one or the
other. if you want everything to be manageable via apt, package it.
if you want to use npm et al, don't use apt
236[02:28:50] <sney> there are ways to convince apt you already
have something installed, and npm might have overrides for that
stuff too, but why use two package managers in the first place?
237[02:28:52] <Aurora-Sensei> So manually use webpack. Mkay. Is
there any way to setup its resolution to lookup debian lib
locations?
295[03:21:58] <sponix> Aurora-Sensei: any time I end up working
with it, it goes in a VM so it can't break anything else
296[03:22:14] <Aurora-Sensei> Probably a reasonable stance.
297[03:22:28] <sponix> dvs: Yes, it is the new hotness for
request. But hot garbage IMHO
298[03:22:52] <sponix> Aurora-Sensei: might see what Ubuntu
20.04 BETA server has on hand for node.js (inside a VM)
299[03:23:02] <Aurora-Sensei> I wanted to use it locally so I
could avoid downloading a blob of JS for a userscript and instead
compile from debian-packaged (somewhat more trustworthy source).
303[03:24:11] <Aurora-Sensei> Heh. I've got such solutions.
But yeah. I think it's moot anyway. Seems like the site I
wanted to scrape is slowly going to hell anyway.
304[03:26:17] <sponix> I did a couple crypto pool hosting things
with node.js as paid projects. All I can say is, the pay wasn't
enough to compensate for pulling my hair out :P
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618[11:11:54] <mutante> Gryllida: either you can google
literally "Linux on ..." for some model or i would say
just buy a Thinkpad and it's pretty much safe
628[11:13:37] <mutante> i recommend a Thinkapd start with X for
example X250 if you want to spend about 500 or X1 if you want to
spend over 1000 (but have an "ultrabook", really
light-weight but not crappy)
629[11:14:01] <squigz> (Debian 10, Kernel 4.19) I'm running
into some sound issues - Yesterday, my PCI sound card completely
disappeared from pulse/alsa. I tried rebooting & replugging the
card, but nothing seemed to fix it, until suddenly it just
reappeared. Just a few minutes ago, the card stopped producing
sound, but pulse/alsa can at least still see it. Kernel gave me
these messages:
631[11:14:13] <mutante> the only thing is you will need non-free
driver for the wifi .. all else just works
632[11:14:35] <ratrace> Gryllida: you can also get one of those
System76 things, they're precisely built for linux
633[11:15:07] *** Quits: Ericounet (~Eric@replaced-ip) (Quit: Je m'en vais ...)
634[11:15:16] <mutante> also "refurbished" is a nice
way to reduce cost but still get decent hardware
635[11:15:36] <ratrace> I've also historically had only
positive experiences with Acer laptops
636[11:16:53] <mutante> Gryllida: in general things are better
now compared to back in 2010 more hardware will just work. but to be
safe try to find it on
replaced-url
641[11:22:26] <mutante> except About 6.950.000 results for
"Why Dell sucks", like "Why are Dell laptops such
crap? - Quora" "Really, why does Dell suck so bad? -
Windows Central Forums" hehe
648[11:28:06] <squigz> I found some related issues online that
suggest adding a new option to the alsa-base kernel mod
configuration - but I don't see such a alsa-base.conf or
similar file in /etc/modprobe.d/ - Can I just create it?
649[11:28:41] <squigz> This is what I'm looking at
replaced-url
650[11:28:43] <ratrace> squigz: yes
651[11:28:50] <squigz> Okay
652[11:28:57] <squigz> Do I have to load a module or anything,
or just reboot?
653[11:29:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1466
654[11:29:50] <ratrace> squigz: I don't know if those
module options can be applied at run time, so I guess you better
reboot just in case. BTW.... if that hardware was working and then
suddenly it developed such issues, and there were no relevant
software updates, consider that the hardware is simply failing
655[11:30:00] <squigz> I know...
656[11:30:20] <squigz> really can't afford HW issues at the
moment, so I'm in denial :P
657[11:30:38] <ratrace> squigz: also, PCI, you mean it's
inserted into the slot? consider de-rusting the connectors
658[11:30:49] <squigz> Hmm
659[11:31:01] <squigz> I sure hope they're not rusty
660[11:31:06] <ratrace> connector rust/oxidation is usually the
most likely cause for PCI cards to develop issues.
662[11:31:37] <squigz> This is a bit out of my area... Is there
a recommend way of cleaning that?
663[11:31:43] <ratrace> it also affects sata cables, so you hear
about "reseating" them.
664[11:31:55] <ratrace> squigz: I just use fine grained sand
paper :)
665[11:31:58] <mutante> WD-40 spray can of ?
666[11:32:16] *** Quits: jjakob (~quassel@replaced-ip) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
667[11:32:28] <ratrace> i'd be careful with wd40. while it
does eat rust.... it also leaves oily residue which may or may not
be conductive to electricity....
668[11:32:39] <squigz> Yeah I feel like that's asking for
more trouble :P
669[11:32:45] <squigz> But HW isn't my area
670[11:32:58] <squigz> I'm gunna try the module option, at
any rate, and give my entire computer a good clean in the next day
or two
671[11:33:19] <ratrace> sandpaper the connectors or use a knife
or something to scratch the oxidation layer away
686[11:38:44] <ratrace> squigz: what would be "more basic
HW issue"? those things have no moving parts, so the most
likely problem will be caused by oxidation. followed by shortcuts in
condensers, short of mechanical damage to the components.
687[11:39:20] <squigz> ratrace: Multiple HW issues with no
related software upgrades would indicate to me a possible mobo
issue, no?
688[11:39:34] <ratrace> oxidation can also eat away at cold
solder joints which at some point becomes insulator
689[11:40:05] <ratrace> squigz: debugging starts with _most_
likely causes. I'd reseat that thing, followed by cleaning the
connectors, followed by looking elsewhere
713[11:46:02] <mutante> nt80: sure, but there are still trends.
HP: 24.400.000 Dell: 6.950.000, Lenovo: 2.580.000, Acer: 890.000 :)
(all of them 'why $brand sucks)
714[11:46:57] <nt80> i think it's only related to
popularity of each
715[11:47:05] <squigz> "Why HP is awesome" has 165m
results :P
718[11:48:03] <nt80> that google request is definitely not a
determining factor for some awesome models of each brand. hp has
good servers, for example
719[11:48:16] <mutante> remember "googlefight" bot
trigger here on IRC? that was for this :)
720[11:49:09] <trek00> nt80: they bought DEC :)
721[11:50:27] <mutante> "why Dell is awesome" finds
"Alienware is awesome. Dell sucks" on the Dell forum
itself *gg*
728[11:53:00] <ratrace> I must've been very lucky. Never
bought a laptop specifically for linux, never bothered to check hw
compat. they all worked out of the box. HP first, then several Acers
later.
733[11:54:07] <Gryllida> yeah i am in the sydney area
734[11:54:08] <nt80> for me it's vice versa: older hp
laptop always worked with linux, newer not. older dell laptops never
worked with linux, newer work
735[11:54:15] <Gryllida> would prefer something that ships from
the same country
736[11:54:36] <Gryllida> InstallingDebianOn has a somewhat
impractical layout, itis good after i already found the laptop
elsewhere
737[11:55:09] <Gryllida> say, i start here:
replaced-url
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748[11:59:03] <marduk> hm, I never had any hardware that didn`t
worked for me on linux... maybe I am lucky. I had some issues but
always found a solution
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connection to the internet...)
807[13:16:57] <ws2k3> im trying to rsync a mysql directory from
the current server to a new server. but when i run rsync -avhz
--progress --partial --numeric-ids --exclude=/dev --exclude=/sys
--exclude=/proc root@server:/var/lib/mysql/ /var/lib/mysql nothing
actualy happens..... what could i be wroing wrong?
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818[13:21:59] <ratrace> ws2k3: for starters, I'd use a much
less complicated option list..... I'd just use -va
root@server:/var/lib/mysql/ /var/lib/mysql/ and if you want total
transfer progress, then it's --info=progress2
819[13:22:21] <ratrace> I also like to add -X and -A to retain
xattrs and ACLs, just in case
874[13:56:46] <bryanpedini> I recently changed my primary
monitor because the previous one came up with dead pixels, before I
had two identical monitors, now I have two different brands. (I
swapped the monitor on Windows, so for Debian's sake it was
basically a shut-off situation).
875[13:57:02] <Lope> ratrace, I've gotten further with my
x2go experiments.
876[13:57:06] <GarySmith2222> hello!
877[13:57:20] <GarySmith2222> What time is it in your countries?
878[13:57:29] <GarySmith2222> @sr
879[13:57:35] <bryanpedini> Now every time I boot in Debian I
have to manually change the primary monitor to the new one, because
the bottom panel and the primary desktop background are on the wrong
monitor
880[13:57:41] <bryanpedini> Does anybody know why?
883[13:58:46] <GarySmith2222> Maybe you changed something
important,bryanpedini
884[13:59:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1483
885[13:59:23] <GarySmith2222> Because I can't use pacman
properly
886[13:59:45] <bryanpedini> the physical ports used for the two
monitors are the same, the connector is the same (HDMI for both
monitors, before and after, no change), and even the resolution is
the same (FullHD before and after for both monitors)
887[13:59:58] <Lope> ratrace, it turns out that no custom
options are necessary in qemu.conf on the host and no custom
pulseaudio config options are necessary in the guest. it will work
with ICH6, AC97 audio and probably ICH9 as well via x2go. Literally
the only requirements that I've been able to establish so far
is 1. Must use spice. If I use VNC for the Display then can't
get any sound. 2. Must not run sddm service because then pulseaudio
gets run twice probably, one for
888[13:59:59] <Lope> each X session, then the audio doesn't
come through x2go.
889[14:00:17] <GarySmith2222> And I am in a trouble now
890[14:00:26] <bryanpedini> the only think I can think it
changed, is the refresh rate of my new primary monitor that I bought
specifically for "more advanced" gaming, so I went with a
75Hz display...
891[14:00:27] *** Quits: mortderire (mortderire@replaced-ip) (Remote host closed the connection)
892[14:00:34] <GarySmith2222> I can't connect to my
computer
893[14:00:38] <Lope> ratrace, I'm trying to see about
enabling GPU acceleration in the VM, to see if that helps with CPU
usage of playing a youtube video in it. just for interest sake.
894[14:00:39] <bryanpedini> IDK, nothing else I can think of...
895[14:00:47] <GarySmith2222> I am using IRC in my phone
896[14:01:07] <ratrace> GarySmith2222: you're probably in
the wrong channel and want #archlinux
897[14:01:24] <GarySmith2222> this is a good advice
906[14:03:38] <bryanpedini> ratrace, no, because the physical
port the Acer (primary) monitor is connected, is the first one the
GPU displays image on during POST and BIOS
907[14:03:51] <bryanpedini> so I would like it to remain in the
Acer's monitor...
908[14:04:02] <bryanpedini> it's basically the default
factory port 0...
909[14:04:06] <ratrace> bryanpedini: but just for a test....
910[14:04:11] <bryanpedini> I can try, sure...
911[14:04:41] <ratrace> bryanpedini: meanwhile, if you have
nvidia, iirc nvida-settings has a way to configure monitor geometry,
you just need to run that as root so it can save a
/etc/X11/xorg.conf
912[14:04:48] <Lope> ratrace, Since messing around with the
spice display virtual hardware, trying to enable openGL for the
VM's display device (I dunno if that would be accessible by the
x2go session) virt-manager has been giving me errors about
certificates. right now I'm getting some errors Could not load
certificates from /etc/pki/qemu/server-cert.pem. The /etc/pki/qemu/
didn't actually exist. So I generated some self-signed crap and
put it in there but it's not happy
913[14:04:49] <Lope> about it.
914[14:05:29] <bryanpedini> ratrace, is "X Server XVideo
Settings" under "X Screen 0"?
915[14:06:02] <ratrace> bryanpedini: "X Server Display
configuration" which is second option from the top, in
nvidia-settings
922[14:08:57] <ws2k3> how can i install a package from oldstable
on buster?
923[14:09:17] <bryanpedini> also, to be noted, even tho I have
the Nvidia proprietary drivers, I still have tearing and stuttering
on the monitors (only on Debian tho, not on Win)
924[14:09:35] <bryanpedini> ws2k3, you can try adding oldstable
in your sources.list
925[14:09:38] <abrotman> ws2k3: why would you want to do that?
926[14:09:46] <Wulf> ws2k3: download the package, dpkg -i. Or
download the sources and compile them on buster.
927[14:09:54] <abrotman> It's like you're determined
to break your system on a daily basis
929[14:11:07] <bryanpedini> ratrace, any clue on why it would
reset even tho it has correct primary monitor settings both on
system and on Nvidia control panel?
930[14:11:36] <ratrace> bryanpedini: some race condition with
gpu initialization or something. that's why I wanted to suggest
to use nvida-settings to create a xorg.conf and try to force the
geometry that way
931[14:11:38] <ws2k3> abrotman Wulf i need
replaced-url
932[14:12:06] <abrotman> What's wrong with the libboost in
Buster?
933[14:12:21] <bryanpedini> ratrace, let me reboot, and when I
get the reset monitor, I'll check the Nvidia settings to see if
those get reset too...
934[14:12:30] <bryanpedini> sounds good for troubleshooting?
935[14:12:37] <omar> bryanpedini bumblebee fixes the tearing
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937[14:13:03] <ws2k3> abaranov i think its not available
replaced-url
938[14:13:22] <bryanpedini> omar, I do not have a secondary GPU
tho (I mean, I have, but nothing is connected to it, this is a PC
not a laptop, if my understanding of what Bumblebee is for is
correct)
939[14:13:36] <bryanpedini> or it doesn't matter?
940[14:13:48] <omar> ahhhhh
941[14:13:51] <abrotman> ws2k3: what are you isntalling that
requires that specific package/version?
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950[14:14:36] <squigz> ratrace: Well, I pulled the card out and
checked it out, there didn't appear to be any rust. I put it in
aother slot. Still not showing up :/
970[14:19:10] <ratrace> bryanpedini: it will create it. nowadays
xorg.conf is not needed due to autodetection, but it's a way to
force settings to xorg
971[14:19:32] <bryanpedini> okay, saved.
972[14:19:35] <ratrace> bryanpedini: if for some reason that
goes south and you're unable to boot into graphics mode later,
put systemd.unit=multi-user.target into kernel command line via
grub, boot into text mode and remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf that
nvidia-settings created
973[14:19:46] <squigz> ratrace: Hmmm. So according to `lshw`,
the card is recognized, but it's not being seen by alsa
974[14:20:13] <bryanpedini> ratrace, seems like this is a force
method that sometimes break things...
975[14:20:31] <bryanpedini> btw, let me reboot one more time and
check...
977[14:20:44] <ratrace> bryanpedini: well nvidia-settings will
store entire settings into xorg.conf, not just geometry, and it is
_possible_ (though not likely) it'll break on next boot
1091[14:47:08] <ratrace> bryanpedini: but with my admittedly
limited experience in inner workings of WINE, I'd say what it
does now is vastly better, at least performance wise, than any
emulation would be
1092[14:47:56] <ratrace> bryanpedini: eh, what kind of computing
environment you've got there...
1116[14:52:56] <bryanpedini> it's not the other way around
1117[14:53:15] <Ede|Popede> bryanpedini: no, it's never
them. it's either the client or the server. never seen a
"sorry, something went wrong on our side" from them
1118[14:53:29] <bryanpedini> Ede|Popede, of course...
1121[14:54:19] <bryanpedini> have you ever seen a "sorry,
something on our F* idiot moron system because we do not know how to
program it, caused all your personal documents to be permanently
deleted" on Windows 10 upd. 1809?
1129[14:55:58] <bryanpedini> ratrace, true, except when you
consider people like my Father-in-law, to which I have personally
upgraded their company's PC from Windows XP to Windows 7 last
year
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1132[14:56:36] <bryanpedini> with *that* XP machine almost always
connected to the internet with a PATA disk, that carried (of course,
without any single backup) all their data since the start of their
company
1133[14:57:07] <ratrace> bryanpedini: blaming windows for that
is..... ridiculous. Some time ago I had both EXT4 and ZFS eat up
files on my test systems. ext4 due to MQ bug in early 4.19 kernels,
and ZFS due to some mishap with glibc...
1134[14:57:48] <ratrace> wasn't catastrophic because I had
good backups. Point is, no software is free of bugs.
1136[14:58:07] <bryanpedini> ratrace, true, that is ridiculous...
until you consider a simple fact: *YOU* are responsible for what
happens on misconfigured Linux systems, because *YOU* did it
1137[14:58:24] <ratrace> it wasn't misconfigurd at all. an
update came in and borked everything.
1138[14:58:37] <bryanpedini> WHO is responsible for a bad coded
piece of garbage OS that nobody can watch into?
1139[14:59:05] <bryanpedini> ratrace, so, basically same
situation as 1809 yeah...?
1142[15:00:21] <ratrace> bryanpedini: but by that logic, regular
users are just in the same hot water windows users are. only a
handful of poeple can look into ext4 code and go "Aha!
bug!" and even THEY did not spot it until it was found in the
wild.....
1143[15:00:42] <ratrace> the argument is moot :) and I'm
sure, very much so offtopic now ;)
1144[15:00:58] <bryanpedini> I agree with OT...
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1146[15:01:19] <Ede|Popede> another reason not to use a bleeding
edge distro in daily life :P
1193[15:32:31] <trek00> Haohmaru: may be xarchiver? ark?
engrampa?
1194[15:32:38] <Ede|Popede> Haohmaru: if something invisible
takes long enough or you're fast enough you may generally find
it in htop's screen, where i recommend the tree view.
1198[15:34:16] <trek00> lxde seems to use xarchiver by default
1199[15:34:18] <Ede|Popede> not sure if the filemanager or the DE
decides here. seems to me that they are really close to each other,
w/o the fm running in the background some things don't seem to
work on the desktop
1200[15:34:59] <Haohmaru> trek00 yes, but i think it's not
xarchiver, because iirc xarchiver had a slightly more annoying UI
when you "compress" a selection of files
1201[15:35:25] <Haohmaru> that is.. it allows you to make an
archive without file extension if you're not careful
1242[15:55:43] <tinga> Hi. Pulseaudio has begun to refuse to be
started: pulseaudio --kill => .. no such process; pulseaudio
--start => E: [PULSEAUDIO] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
1247[15:58:00] <trek00> tinga: i really don't know
pulseaudio, but if you don't need it and you only want to ear
sounds, may be you can just uninstall it as last resort
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1249[15:58:34] <tinga> I used to do that for like a decade
(*always* had issues with it). Then firefox started to work properly
without it.
1250[15:58:46] <tinga> So I installed it again, still only
starting it when using firefox.
1251[15:59:02] <tinga> And that used to work fine. But not today.
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1253[15:59:08] <trek00> i use firefox-esr without the need of
pulseaudio
1259[15:59:59] <tinga> trek00, you mean ~/.config/pulse ? done
that
1260[16:00:01] <trek00> tinga: (or better to move around)
1261[16:00:25] <trek00> tinga: well i can't help, may be
someone know it better
1262[16:00:44] <tinga> greycat, I'm on oldstable and it
didn't work: I had to disable the mic in Wire to get any sound,
turning the mic back on would mess it up again. Same with jitsi
iirc.
1274[16:10:09] <greycat> first google result for that is from
someone who edited their /etc/pulse/default.pa file -- any chance
you did that? or that this file has become corrupt, or been deleted?
1283[16:12:40] <tinga> Yeh, fine, I didn't do that though.
"apt-get install --reinstall pulseaudio" created that
directory, no change.
1284[16:12:45] <tinga> Let me try purge
1285[16:12:59] <greycat> !confmiss
1286[16:12:59] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging
system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is
assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o
DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall
$packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the
package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about
<ucf confmiss>.
1287[16:13:05] <greycat> (or purge and reinstall)
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1293[16:16:09] <tinga> Purge+reinstall did create the files
1294[16:16:18] <tinga> and it starts now.
1295[16:16:23] <RadoS> !netinstaller
1296[16:16:36] <tinga> Thanks! But Now I've got NO idea why
that happened. I had it running just yesterday.
1297[16:16:46] <RadoS> !net-installer
1298[16:16:49] <greycat> !netinst
1299[16:16:49] <dpkg> netinst is, like, a small CD image with
which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process
you have a working Internet connection, you can install more
packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and
more packages later. See
replaced-url
1300[16:16:55] <RadoS> greycat, thanks.
1301[16:17:00] <tinga> So either it *did* run without these files
yesterday, or those files vanished in a way that I have no idea why.
1302[16:17:08] <greycat> tinga: system crashed, rebooted and
fsck'ed and the files were lost in the fsck?
1303[16:17:28] <tinga> Nope, didn't reboot since Apr 9
1310[16:19:21] <RadoS> I boot up dhcp, which is setup to provide
net-installer via tftp. System get params from dhcp apparently OK,
then it says "PXELINUX 6.04 PXE 20190226 ..." and is stuck
there, no progree
1343[16:39:48] <Lope> Does anyone know how to enable OpenGL as a
Display Spice device in virt-manager? I've searched about the
issue. The only way I was able to get the VM to actually
(supposedly) "start" without "errors" in
virt-manager was to set the Display spice to listen on a unix
socket. I tried auto and also explicitly selecting the GPU. I tried
adding 'libvirt-qemu' user to 'render' and
'video' groups. I tried adding
"/dev/dri/renderD128" to cgroup_device_acl in
1344[16:39:48] <Lope> /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf I rebooted after
adjusting configs and also tried `chmod 777 /dev/dri/renderD128`.
But I was not able to get the VM to fully boot when openGL was
enabled for the Display Spice device and was not able to see
anything on the screen nor able to get virt-manager's view >
Text Consoles > Serial 1 to do/show anything whatsoever.
reference:
replaced-url
1368[16:54:59] <FuzzyByte> n-iCe: There are multiple low-resource
alternatives, but as greycat suggested, a window manager might be
the better option. There are loads to try, a few notable ones are
i3, openbox, and jwm. There are also lightweight DEs, such as Xfce,
lxde & trinity.
1369[16:55:03] <Lope> kde runs on some pretty shitty laptops if
you disable all the animations etc.
1370[16:55:09] <FuzzyByte> but yeah, greycat is right.
1371[16:55:11] <Lope> and KDE is awesome
1372[16:55:13] <n-iCe> thank you guys
1373[16:55:36] <FuzzyByte> Lope: I've experienced KDE as
mostly bloated and resource-hungry in the past.
1374[16:55:52] <Lope> FuzzyByte, it's improved a lot in
recent years
1406[17:01:44] <n-iCe> <FuzzyByte> we might not be talkking
about the same thing here --> so which one I need to look to make
my wpa2 connection?
1407[17:02:38] <SnakesAndStuff> FuzzyByte: That is what I am
trying, but it isn't found in the repos... trying to find a
stable/official repo that maintains it
1411[17:03:19] <greycat> Notice how "jessie" is not
shown there.
1412[17:04:05] <joepublic> don't really see wheezy or buster
either
1413[17:04:07] <lwp> !debian edu
1414[17:04:08] <dpkg> Debian Edu is a project that aims to
provide a free software distribution that is tailored for
educational scenarios such as the class room, the staff room and the
administration office. Ask me about <skolelinux>.
replaced-url
1415[17:04:17] <dostoyevsky> I have two 500g ssds in /dev/md* --
could I tell mdadm or the like that I would like to use the 1TB
fully instead of just 500g in total... I do not care about
performance or data security, just having more space...
1416[17:04:36] <lwp> n-Ice: ^^^^^
1417[17:04:46] <FuzzyByte> n-iCe: nmcli should be preinstalled,
btu you might find it hard t use, so I encourage you to get nmtui.
1418[17:05:24] <SnakesAndStuff> judd: But is that save to add
that repo for jessie/8.11?
1442[17:09:40] <FuzzyByte> you might write a script to read
failed authentication attempts off a logfile, e.g. failed ssh logins
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1444[17:10:01] <Choumou> No logs, I just want to write a script
that will be executed everytime that someone try to connect on a
debian session, automatically
1445[17:10:04] <Choumou> In real time
1446[17:10:06] <Choumou> Is it possible ?
1447[17:10:17] <dostoyevsky> Would `mdadm /dev/md2 --grow
--level=0' convert my raid1 to a raid0?
1497[17:18:31] <Choumou> Yeah but for detecting in real time, i
need to launch a script at debian startupt ( which will parse the
logs yes ), how can i do that ?
1514[17:25:09] <FuzzyByte> joepublic: Pasting from stackoverflow
without understanding the stuff you paste is bad, using
stackoverflow to teach yourself those stuffs is a good approach and
will teach you more about practical application than manpages.
1520[17:33:19] <FuzzyByte> As I said, google and stackoverflow
are your best friend when it comes to text processing with sh tools,
such as awk, sed, grep and stuff.
1526[17:37:26] <Choumou> And is it possible to get the password
that failed for authentification in logs ?
1527[17:37:27] <dostoyevsky> I just realize that because I want
to use nvidia drivers I probably shouldn't use debian on this
new system... as nvidia supports other distributions better..
1538[17:39:39] <FuzzyByte> cybercrypto: tell the password of
failed logins
1539[17:39:52] <FuzzyByte> Wait that was some crappy grammar
1540[17:41:04] <FuzzyByte> greycat: What leads you to believe tha
those are invaluable for his needs?
1541[17:42:42] <greycat> Googling shell questions tends to lead
you to the same crappy cargo-culted scripts and answers that
we've been fighting against for 30 years. All just
echo-chambering the same wrong answers around and around forever.
1542[17:43:21] <cybercrypto> FuzzyByte: what? If i fail to login,
the system would tell me the password? I dont get it.... :(
1543[17:43:38] <greycat> StackOverflow answers are a mixed bag,
sometimes OK, sometimes very bad. It takes actual knowledge to
determine which is which.
1544[17:43:51] <greycat> cybercrypto: NO. It does not.
1545[17:44:20] <greycat> At least, nothing in a standard Debian
install logs passwords like that.
1546[17:45:06] <FuzzyByte> greycat: That is true if users just
cpoy-paste everything. That was not my recommendation to begin with,
though Stack Overflow has proven useful for practical usage of
existing knowledge.
1547[17:45:43] <FuzzyByte> greycat: It'd be a huge security
hole if it was implemented.
1553[17:53:09] <cybercrypto> torwards what purpose (more than
one?) this 'functionality' would be benefitial? Just for
me to better understand, how this topic arised?
1570[18:01:12] <wild_buffalo> nkuttler: right, I know what
I'll say will sound super silly but considering my day job as a
security analyst and the kind of non-technical people I meet,
sometimes people don't know why it is bad that it leaks
passwords
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1572[18:01:16] <FuzzyByte> There are multiple reasons: 1) Is that
the system doesn't really know the password, it uses a one-way
function to calculate a checksum from the password, and if it equals
the checksum stored, it lets you in, and 2) You might mistype the
password, and if an attacker gets the password with 1 cahnged
character, he's basically inside your system.
1575[18:02:07] <wild_buffalo> So sometimes it's useful to
explain fairly basic concepts to people, that we assume are obvious
because we're well versed on the subject
1576[18:02:32] <cybercrypto> wild_buffalo: Agree
1577[18:02:34] <FuzzyByte> And now I wasted my time writin
something and notice that it has already been explained.
1580[18:03:08] <wild_buffalo> Choumou: since the system
can't see the password, in order to accomplish what you're
trying to do, you would have to do one of two things:
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1589[18:05:51] <wild_buffalo> and it would involve quite a bit of
effort, since all secure software is build around that basic
concept, you'd have to build wrappers around SSH etc. Not an
easy task
1590[18:05:52] <FuzzyByte> You can still make your idea come
true, just without passwords.
1591[18:06:12] <wild_buffalo> Choumou: What's the problem
you're trying to solve? Perhaps there's an alternative
solution to it?
1597[18:07:20] <FuzzyByte> Choumou: What weree you trying to do
in the first place? What would that script hacve done?
1598[18:07:21] <Choumou> To know when someone is trying to access
to my session
1599[18:07:26] <giantmidget> Hey lads
1600[18:07:51] <FuzzyByte> giantmidget: Hello there
1601[18:07:53] <wild_buffalo> Choumou: OK for that specific thing
you can just look at login logs and tell the system to email when
someone attempts to connect
1602[18:08:04] <wild_buffalo> You just won't know what
password they used
1603[18:08:07] <greycat> Choumou: your COMPUTER. They are trying
to log in to your COMPUTER.
1616[18:09:45] <cybercrypto> Choumou: you can log every attempt
of login. Is that not enougth?
1617[18:09:54] <giantmidget> Got this issue with my system :
every so often I launch a program which will shit itself and freeze
the desktop, but I can move the mouse. Nothing will work except the
elephant keystrokes. Any ideas?
1618[18:09:55] <FuzzyByte> Choumou: A technically versed person
would just boot from another system and edit /etc/passwd
1619[18:10:00] <n-iCe> Lol I removed de to install and it
installed gnome again FuzzyByte
1620[18:10:12] <FuzzyByte> n-iCe: Why doe
1621[18:10:24] <wild_buffalo> FuzzyByte: not if the disk is
encrypted
1622[18:10:31] <Choumou> FuzzyByte : he can't boot from
another system
1659[18:18:24] <wild_buffalo> CTRL + ALT + Backspace kill X?
1660[18:18:30] <giantmidget> wild_buffalo Yes of course,
that's the first thing I tried, but that doesn't do
anything. That's what I find odd - the mouse moves but all
windows are frozen and no key combinations work
1708[18:24:04] <cybercrypto> I using i3 for now... very low
resources and no need to 'mouse around'
1709[18:24:07] <wild_buffalo> I'm just being funny I just
use Gnome
1710[18:24:17] <wild_buffalo> :P
1711[18:25:08] <giantmidget> :P
1712[18:25:12] <FuzzyByte> giantmidget: micro is the king of
terminal editors. it has all the conveniences of graphical editors,
yet it is terminal based and can be keybound to whatever yu like
1713[18:25:29] <FuzzyByte> Even more than nano
1714[18:25:43] <FuzzyByte> which alread is v e r y user-ffriendly
1715[18:26:03] <FuzzyByte> For fuck's sake, what's
wrong with my typing today
1716[18:26:40] <n-iCe> (cybercrypto) I using i3 for now... very
low resources and no need to 'mouse around' - I like the
mouse thing haha
1717[18:26:41] <giantmidget> Ah yes nano - the "college
freshman enrolled in intro to C"'s choice
1728[18:29:10] <wild_buffalo> FuzzyByte: I've used Vim for
like 5 years as my main editor, and I would like to graciously
counter with this:
replaced-url
1729[18:29:39] <wild_buffalo> TL;DR you can get Vim's full
functionality in Emacs
1730[18:29:49] <FuzzyByte> wild_buffalo: also, it's like the
standard *nix editor. Some variant of it is installed on every
unixoid system.
1740[18:31:40] <wild_buffalo> anyway, that's not the point I
was trying to make, I definitely think everyone should learn
Vim/Unix if for the very least be able to be dropped in a random
machine and be able to use it
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1743[18:32:26] <wild_buffalo> FuzzyByte: but unless you're a
sysadmin, how many times a week do you drop into a random system so
that the fact you know Vi becomes relevant?
1746[18:33:11] <wild_buffalo> With Emacs pretty much never
because it's got TRAMP, aka it transparently open remotes files
in my local session
1747[18:34:36] <wild_buffalo> I can pass
ssh:someserver.example:filename to emacs and it'll open in my
local machine, and let me use my local editor without opening a
shell and vim on the remote
1750[18:35:48] <wild_buffalo> and it works transparently, to the
editor that is just a filepath, so just about every
functionality/plugin it just works
1757[18:38:10] <fuxxy> Not debian-specific per se, I'm
trying to troubleshoot a python script. I don't know python. Is
there a way I can test-run some search paramaters on a source file
to see if my half-assed edits work?
1758[18:38:32] <n-iCe> FuzzyByte almost done
1759[18:39:18] <wild_buffalo> fuxxy: maybe try #python? other
than that you can maybe try a python debugger like pdb (built in),
pudb or ipdb
1760[18:39:24] <cybercrypto> fuxxy: you mean like -e when using
bash?
1767[18:40:54] <wild_buffalo> giantmidget: is there a specific
program that it happens with or this happens just in general?
1768[18:41:09] <fuxxy> cybercrypto, wild_buffalo, sort of. I get
the gist of what this script is trying to do, I just want to test
run specific snippets to ensure the script is getting the same
results as before (structure of source file has changed)
1771[18:41:56] <wild_buffalo> well type python (or python3) on
your terminall
1772[18:42:03] <wild_buffalo> that will give you an interactive
shell
1773[18:42:17] <wild_buffalo> copy your code in there and press
enter to run (if it's just a few lines)
1774[18:42:20] <giantmidget> wild_buffalo just happends
1775[18:42:33] <wild_buffalo> it'll print the result
1776[18:42:45] <wild_buffalo> fuxxy: That way you can try stuff
and see what happens
1777[18:43:15] <wild_buffalo> you can also install the ipython
shell which is a lot more full featured
1778[18:43:31] <fuxxy> the entire .py is 256 lines, but again, I
don't know python. So I don't know if there are
dependancies that will fail if not run from within kodi (its a kodi
addon)
1779[18:43:42] <wild_buffalo> ok in that case
1780[18:43:58] <giantmidget> My question is mainly is there a way
to get out of it when it happens without rebooting? Rebooting is for
windows fags and I don't like doing it
1821[18:50:19] <wild_buffalo> fuxxy: that's fine, it's
supposed to be blank
1822[18:50:26] <wild_buffalo> it's kind of like an optional
variable
1823[18:50:37] <wild_buffalo> also, you need to know if the
script is python 2 or three
1824[18:50:41] <fuxxy> wild_buffalo, that's what I gathered
1825[18:50:45] <kline> n-iCe, if you dont have wpa_supplicant on
the laptop, you can install it wherever you are now and copy over
the required output by hand
1826[18:50:47] <wild_buffalo> anyway, put all of them in the
python path
1827[18:50:58] <wild_buffalo> then open a python shell
1828[18:51:00] <fuxxy> I'm not sure where I found it, but
I'm 100% positive it's python2.7
1829[18:51:30] <wild_buffalo> k great so python -> opens a
python 2 shell and python3 -> we
1830[18:51:36] <wild_buffalo> well you know how it goes
1831[18:51:47] <kline> n-iCe, also, double check whats available
on the install media you used to put debian on, you may find there
are packages on it that can be used for configuring wifi
1832[18:51:48] <greycat> "python" invokes a python 2.x
interpreter, yes, by specification
1833[18:52:11] <wild_buffalo> anyway Python has two types of
modules, just a file or a package
1834[18:52:25] <wild_buffalo> A package is a dir with the file
__init__.py inside, as well as its other files
1837[18:53:09] <wild_buffalo> so if e.g. "codequick" is
a package, you add the directory containing it to the path
1838[18:53:39] <greycat> if it's a *Debian* package, any
utilities you're intended to execute directly should be in one
of the standard PATH directories already
1839[18:53:46] <fuxxy> wild_buffalo, making sense so far.
codequick is a different kodi addon - I'm sure it's
another python script
1889[19:10:02] <n-iCe> One more thing, the correct way to install
a package is apt install packaname right? but thats the correct way
to remove it and remove all installed with it, apt remove does not
remove all does it?
1890[19:10:46] <greycat> the problem with the "lightweight
graphical web browsers" is that corporate entities rarely write
sites that can be navigated by anything less than the full blown
"most recent" firefox/chrome/MSIE
1892[19:11:10] <n-iCe> I see, so chromium would be a good idea_
1893[19:11:14] <n-iCe> ?
1894[19:11:15] <derpadmin> greycat : correct
1895[19:11:17] <greycat> if you want to browse a site that has
linux information, your lightweight browser may be great, but if you
want to do *banking*, it won't
1919[19:20:01] <fuxxy> wild_buffalo, so if I'm trying to
import 'codequick' - a single folder named
'codequick' exists on the system, but it doesent contain
any files named 'codequick.py'. all attempts end with
'no module named codequick'
1920[19:20:25] <greycat> if it's a Debian package, it should
have instructions in /usr/share/doc/codequick/
1921[19:20:31] <greycat> if it's not, then ask a Python
channel how to do this
1947[19:29:34] <n-iCe> how ca I configurate it lol
1948[19:29:50] <n-iCe> its weird since I configure it in the
installation
1949[19:29:57] <greycat> !keymap
1950[19:29:57] <dpkg> Run "dpkg-reconfigure
keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and
X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap
settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps,
xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>.
1961[19:32:10] <greycat> so... I am guessing... you *didn't*
restart X after running dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration? I
don't know whether you need to or not, but I would guess you
do.
1967[19:32:32] <n-iCe> ¡fíltrela con arcadas con [*]
producen una salida extensa,
1968[19:32:33] <greycat> why not use a terminal you *don't*
hate?
1969[19:32:53] <n-iCe> dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
command not found
1970[19:33:02] <greycat> !buster su
1971[19:33:02] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by
default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su
-l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at
all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put
"ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See
replaced-url
2062[20:36:01] <dpkg> phpMyAdmin is a tool written in PHP
intended to handle MySQL administration over the Internet. Can
create and drop databases, create/drop/alter tables, delete/edit/add
fields, execute any SQL statement, and manage keys on fields. Read
/usr/share/doc/phpmyadmin/README.Debian and run
"dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin" to configure your web
server.
replaced-url
2063[20:36:06] <nkuttler> Akuw: there's also a qa page for
every package
replaced-url
2064[20:36:24] <ws2k3> im trying to configure cgroups on debian
9. im following this tutorial
replaced-url
2065[20:36:26] <greycat> huh... isn't that the one with
the...
2068[20:37:14] <greycat> Am I thinking of the wrong factoid, or
did someone neuter this one?
2069[20:37:35] <ratrace> why, what were you excpecting?
2070[20:37:42] <nkuttler> !factinfo phpmyadmin
2071[20:37:42] <dpkg> phpmyadmin -- created by KerPlunk
<n=user_nam@wlogin.farmingdale.edu> at Wed Mar 29 20:08:42
2006 (5128 days); last modified at Wed Jan 13 14:40:09 2010 by
gsimmons!~gsimmons@gsimmons.org; it has been requested 115 times,
last by greycat, 45s ago.
2072[20:38:00] <greycat> "I'd rather shove knives into
a live socket than run phpmyadmin on an exposed server" or
simialr.
2073[20:38:40] <derpadmin> /quote
2074[20:38:54] <greycat> !webmin
2075[20:38:54] <dpkg> Webmin is a lame web-based interface for
unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at
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2076[20:39:00] <greycat> Sorry, my mistake.
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2078[20:40:33] <ws2k3> so i attemted to configure cgroups in
debian 9. here are all my configs and tests
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2079[20:40:42] <joepublic> I shoved a hatpin into a live socket
once in an attempt to repair a night-light. I was 2.
2080[20:41:04] <joepublic> the experiment was successful, albeit
very briefly.
2135[21:22:43] <mutantturkey> is there a way to see why packages
are 'not upgraded'
2136[21:22:51] <mutantturkey> in my situation... 1500 packages re
'not upgraded'
2137[21:23:19] <joepublic> dpkg, bat
2138[21:23:19] <dpkg> [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose
your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete
output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used)
2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL
packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache
policy". Use
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2161[21:46:18] <greycat> What are you actually trying to DO?
2162[21:46:19] <ws2k3> greycat any idea why i cannot kill of a
proces that seems to be waiting of IO duo to the cgroup limit
2163[21:46:32] <ws2k3> greycat limint the amount of disk io and
cpu a proces can use
2164[21:46:50] <ws2k3> cause reguarly some processes take all the
available resources
2165[21:47:09] <ws2k3> which results in other processes hanging
or getting stuck
2166[21:47:10] <greycat> Unix resource limits will cause the
kernel to kill a process when it exceeds a limit. I don't know
how cgroups would differ from that.
2175[21:51:14] * greycat googles "unix resource limit disk
I/O" and one of the results is
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2177[21:51:56] <greycat> So, at a guess? What you would do is
write a systemd unit to drive your service, and use a regular unix
resource limit for CPU time, and use one of these "cgroup"
thingies to do the disk I/O limit.
2178[21:52:37] <greycat> For the former, see systemd.exec(5) and
look for LimitCPU=
2184[21:54:04] <greycat> Astonishing. You got the hard/impossible
thing to work but not the easy thing. Oh well, I told you where to
set the configs for the easy thing.
2185[21:54:04] <ws2k3> at least i think its not
2186[21:54:29] <ws2k3> greycat any idea how i could verify if the
cpu limit is working?
2187[21:54:33] <greycat> (if you're not using a systemd unit
to drive the service, then you use "ulimit" to set
resource limits in the shell script that kicks it off)
2188[21:54:36] <ws2k3> the proces is still using 100 % cpu in top
2235[22:40:44] <russell--> what's the standard way of
rebuilding a module for debian's kernel, with a different
.config option (namely: CONFIG_ATH9K_HTC_DEBUGFS=y), and ideally,
package it so it can be managed with standard debian package
management?
2244[22:47:51] <mzajc> My system starts swapping programs out
when I hit the 10 GB physical memory mark, even though I have 16 GB
installed. What could be causing this?
2245[22:48:52] <sponix2ipfw> mzajc: swap isn't only used
when you are out of ram
2256[22:51:19] <mzajc> and I don't have an issue with swap
being used, as long as there aren't 6 gigabytes of physical
just sitting there and doing nothing
2277[23:01:25] <Transsiberian> hi, has anyone experienced
problems with Google Chrome not starting (google-chrome-stable
81.0.4044.92-1 amd64) on Debian unstable. When trying to launch
Chrome, it shows this error and apparently hangs:
2278[23:01:28] <Transsiberian> google-chrome
2279[23:01:29] <Transsiberian>
[6398:6398:0413/225122.690299:ERROR:edid_parser.cc(102)] Too short
EDID data: manufacturer id
2280[23:02:34] <sponix2ipfw> Transsiberian: try it with the flag
to disable hardware acceleration
2281[23:02:44] <mzajc> Transsiberian: you should probably install
chromium instead, I don't know how well google chrome is
maintainedm, since it's not even in the main repository
2288[23:05:44] <Transsiberian> sponix2ipfw: thanks, I had already
tried with --disable-gpu with the same results. I have been running
chrome without issues since many years ago. I will try on
#debian-next. Many thanks again!
2340[23:21:39] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install
build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source
packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation
options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid
see <uupdate>.
2356[23:24:44] <dpkg> Roundcube is an <IMAP> client written
in PHP. This software is not part of the Debian 8 "Jessie"
release (bug #775666) but is available in <jessie-backports>.
Debian 7 "Wheezy" users: SQLite v2 support was dropped,
see /usr/share/doc/roundcube-sqlite/NEWS.Debian.gz and
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2357[23:24:45] <cyveris> mzajc: Then your issue is not that your
iGPU is consuming your memory.
2364[23:31:09] <Lope2> definitely don't do it. you'll
probably brick your install.
2365[23:31:36] <Lope2> if it's compiling from source that
might be okay. but not just a straight up apt install.
2366[23:33:08] <sponix2ipfw> Lope2: I am still learning. Just
learned how to specify a certain version or branch of something
recently. And how to hold packages. Etc
2423[23:54:09] <jhutchins> roundcube on stretch, is there a way
to turn off the "Attach File" frame when composing? The
"Attach" button at the top should be sufficient.
2424[23:54:56] <sponix2ipfw> bolovanos: sweet
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2427[23:56:23] <bolovanos> sponix2ipfw, /var/log ->
apt/history.log or apt/term.log do not tell more