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7[00:03:43] <phre4k> I think I should really use
systemd-nspawn.
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8[00:03:52] <phre4k> brb, rebooting to fix that mess. Thanks
already!
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30[00:09:39] <n-st> hi, the cron daemon on my jessie system
isn't loading files in /etc/cron.d, even when i restart it. do
i need to enable anything for that?
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53[00:15:00] <phre4k> I learned quite a bit tonight.
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60[00:16:31] <MrGeneral> Folks. This disk got ruined. It was
having issue as hell. So, after running fsck, all files are in
/lost+found/
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61[00:16:38] <MrGeneral> Example: /lost+found/#154124
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62[00:16:56] <MrGeneral> It contains the files, how can I get a
script to move the files from the folder to its original place?
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73[00:19:27] <Iridos> n-st, how can you tell? I mean that
it's not anything... packages put stuff in there... and seems
to me that's executed
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77[00:20:12] <n-st> Iridos: it didn't show up in
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81[00:20:32] <n-st> turns out the filenames in /etc/cron.d may
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97[00:22:19] <jmcnaught> MrGeneral: unfortunately the reason
the files ended up in lost+found is because the filesystem no longer
knows the filenames/paths for these files. your best to simply
restore from backups
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99[00:22:37] <MrGeneral> damnit jmcnaught
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100[00:22:40] <MrGeneral> my friend has no backups
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101[00:22:47] <MrGeneral> am trying to restore using debugfs
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102[00:23:42] <jmcnaught> MrGeneral: are you able to make an
image of this drive with ddrescue and then do your data recovery
operations on the image (or a copy of the image)?
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103[00:23:59] <MrGeneral> I think so jmcnaught
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104[00:24:04] <MrGeneral> it's a kvm image though
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116[00:25:24] <Iridos> let your friend do the dirty work
himself?
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117[00:25:25] <jmcnaught> MrGeneral: the reason i mention this
is because data recovery tools can sometimes do more damage, so
it's best to work on an image (and copy that image so if you
mess the image up you don't have to clone the original disk
again)
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118[00:25:45] <Iridos> It's only a good object lesson of
why one needs backups if it happens to oneself
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136[00:28:29] <MrGeneral> yeah agreed jmcnaught
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137[00:28:31] <MrGeneral> will tyr, thanks
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138[00:28:34] <MrGeneral> indeed Iridos
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139[00:28:38] <MrGeneral> just trying to help
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190[00:50:40] <flashylight> hi, is there a required package for
pcmanfm so it detects and mounts usb sticks?
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219[01:03:08] <drale2k> for ubuntu there is a server and a
client installation but i can't find that for debian. Is debian
both in one?
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220[01:03:25] <drale2k> server / desktop (with GUI etc)
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223[01:04:11] <axc1298> drale2k: yes it's the same. the
installer has options for different types of servers you can select
too
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224[01:04:26] <drale2k> axc1298: alright thanks
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225[01:04:31] <teraflops> drale2k: btw ubuntu server is just
ubuntu
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226[01:04:55] <drale2k> ah ok, so ubuntu desktop is
"ubuntu" + the gui stuff
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228[01:05:57] <rlange> I believe Ubuntu "Server" is
basically like Debian's netinst, whereas Ubuntu
"Desktop" is like disc 1 of the regular Debian install
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237[01:08:09] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> rlange: I believe you're
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238[01:08:42] <ac1dh0n3ycl0ud> last time I installed ubuntu
server it was the ubuntu OS without a gui--exactly like
debian's netinst
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239[01:09:55] <jmcnaught> the different between debian netinst,
cd-1, dvd-1 etc is simply how many packages are on the ISO. what
gets installed is determined by choices made in the installer
(regardless of which disc is used)
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240[01:10:05] <jmcnaught> s/different/difference/
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244[01:11:07] <rlange> true. i don't think Ubuntu really
gives choices during the install, but it's like the default
choice set for the above-mentioned Debian isos
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252[01:15:32] <grml-user> i cannot boot into my debian jessie.
it keeps saying "a start job is waiting for
/dev/mapper/big" and similar, infinitely.
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253[01:15:43] <grml-user> i am currently on a grml rescue disk
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255[01:17:12] <grml-user> what i did to cause this, was: my
normal disk is /dev/sda. i chrooted into /dev/sdb and ran
update-initramfs with some options that were not supposed to affect
/dev/sda at all. however, booting to both sda and sdb have this
problem, on all kernels. i did not change fstab or crypttab at all
on sda.
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257[01:17:25] <|_[O_O]_|> definitely sounds like your /etc/fstab
is busted
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259[01:17:48] <|_[O_O]_|> are you using UUID's or directly
mapping?
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260[01:17:51] <grml-user> |_[O_O]_|: ok, that's a start. it
looks fine to me on both disks. would you like me to paste it?
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262[01:18:25] <grml-user> i decided to use /dev/sdx notation
this time to avoid trouble. the order of the disks is stable.
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263[01:19:15] <grml-user> i was concerned i might get uuid
syntax wrong, or might get the wrong uuid. i triple-checked
everything. but again, the only fstab i changed was sdb. same with
crypttab,
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265[01:19:49] <|_[O_O]_|> are you using something like LUKS on
them?
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271[01:22:27] <|_[O_O]_|> actually, heh, are you using the
distribution supplied kernel or pulling from kernel.org -- I think I
recall hitting that when I was booting a custom kernel without
CONFIG_FHANDLE
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272[01:22:41] <|_[O_O]_|> systemd doesn't like that at all
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274[01:23:37] <|_[O_O]_|>
replaced-url
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275[01:23:43] <|_[O_O]_|> was fun trying to figure that out
first time round
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281[01:24:39] <grml-user> |_[O_O]_|: how do i scroll up in
irssi?
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282[01:24:51] <markybob> pg up on your keyboard
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283[01:24:57] <|_[O_O]_|> ^
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286[01:25:47] <grml-user> markybob: thanks. |_[O_O]_| yes, i am
using luks. sda1 is ext2; sda2 is luks with ext4 on it.
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288[01:26:12] <|_[O_O]_|> using lvm?
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289[01:26:22] <grml-user> |_[O_O]_|: no
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290[01:26:40] <|_[O_O]_|> mind pasting your /etc/fstab? :D
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294[01:27:18] <grml-user> sure. i have it mounted on grml now.
how do i paste it?
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299[01:28:43] <|_[O_O]_|> pastebin/gist.github works for me, if
you have a network you can use curl and something like sprunge
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302[01:29:01] <|_[O_O]_|> cat /etc/fstab | curl -F
'sprunge=<-'
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304[01:29:29] <|_[O_O]_|> should give you a link with the output
from the piped command
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305[01:29:46] <|_[O_O]_|> pretty nifty :)
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309[01:30:41] <grml-user>
replaced-url
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310[01:30:44] <markybob> pastebin doesn't work for a lot
(maybe most) of us. use paste.debian.net
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311[01:31:00] <|_[O_O]_|> hehe, theres always a special pastebin
somewhere
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312[01:31:54] <markybob> basically now a huge chunk of this
channel can't see what you pasted
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318[01:33:16] <|_[O_O]_|> markybob:
replaced-url
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320[01:33:23] <|_[O_O]_|> expires in 24h
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321[01:33:32] <grml-user> i am in a very foreign environment.
please bear with me.
replaced-url
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322[01:33:43] <grml-user> btw, is there a key that will do the
same as middle mouse click?
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327[01:34:36] <|_[O_O]_|> well then, theres a stark difference
between the provided pastes
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333[01:35:21] <grml-user> um, did i paste the wrong thing?
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334[01:35:36] <|_[O_O]_|> I take it the second one is what
/etc/fstab really looks like
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335[01:35:41] <grml-user> oh, one of them must be the grml
/etc/fstab
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336[01:35:47] <grml-user> ignore that one
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337[01:36:15] <|_[O_O]_|> ahhh, yea that'll do it
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338[01:36:18] <grml-user> i mounted /etc from sda2 and pasted
its *tab into the evil pastebin
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339[01:36:30] <grml-user> before i had the sprunge incantation
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343[01:36:57] <|_[O_O]_|> hehe, gotcha - what does "fdisk
-l /dev/sda" look like?
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344[01:36:59] <grml-user> how can i turn off so and so has quit
from irssi?
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346[01:37:18] <grml-user> also, is there a keyboard equivalent
to middle mouse click? mouse not working well.
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347[01:37:27] <|_[O_O]_|> hm, might need a module for it - not
sure if irssi lets you squelch joins/parts natively
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348[01:37:31] <jmcnaught> pastebin shows adds, sometimes it
makes people enter a CAPTCHA to see the paste, and one time it only
showed me a cat picture. the worst in my opinion are the pastebin
clones that require javascript just to see the paste
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349[01:37:34] <|_[O_O]_|> (been using weechat too long)
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350[01:37:41] <jmcnaught> errr.. can't type today
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351[01:37:51] <markybob> grml-user: lsb_release -a says what?
this is not what debian installer does.
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352[01:38:24] <|_[O_O]_|> he's modified fstab/crypttab
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354[01:38:42] <|_[O_O]_|> from what i understand the system he
is trying to boot into is Jessie
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355[01:39:14] <|_[O_O]_|> if he does lsb_release outside of a
chroot youre going to get the live images info - assuming
lsb_release is available in the tool set
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356[01:39:21] <grml-user> |_[O_O]_|: agreed about pastebin
problems. it was hte only thing i could think of on grml here. ok,
here is the fdisk -l i think
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359[01:40:25] <grml-user> ~~~;5~;7~;3~replaced-url
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361[01:40:34] <grml-user>
replaced-url
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362[01:40:36] <grml-user>
replaced-url
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363[01:40:39] <grml-user> oops
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364[01:40:44] <grml-user> ok, shift insert does what i need
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368[01:42:02] <grml-user> what i am talking about here is sda. i
did not change fstab or crypttab on sda. yet i still cannot boot to
it.
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372[01:44:00] <grml-user> so something changed in the ... boot
sector or something? grub comes up fine, i get a choice of lots of
kernels, but any one i pick waits on /dev/mapper/something (i know i
saw big but might have seen others)
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374[01:45:05] <markybob> you said you ran update-initramfs and
changed stuff. basically we can't know what you changed. change
it back :P
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378[01:45:54] <grml-user> markybob: i can find out exactly what
i did. i'll have to mount home. but i ran it on /dev/sdb, not
/dev/sda. let me mount home and check.
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381[01:47:24] <markybob> i still want to see your lsb_release -a
because debian doesn't do that and you say you didn't
touch those files
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382[01:47:40] <|_[O_O]_|> You know thats what I was wondering,
but if grub recognizes the partition and kicks on the kernel - and
hooks into init (systemd), then its not a grub issue, its definitely
soemthing within the system itself.
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387[01:48:25] <|_[O_O]_|> as markybob suggests, you'll want
to show us what "lsb_release -a" looks like so we can get
an idea of what youre on. Make sure you chroot into the root though,
otherwise we'll just get greml's info
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390[01:49:27] <|_[O_O]_|> I think the suggestion that they
weren't modified was in reference to this particular moment,
not that it hasn't been modified since the installer finished
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392[01:49:36] <|_[O_O]_|> just my guess :)
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394[01:49:52] <grml-user> ok, here is what i did. i chrooted
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395[01:50:06] <|_[O_O]_|> hehe
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399[01:51:08] <grml-user> markybob: i have a shell script to do
a chroot, or i can follow instructions from you. which is better? :)
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402[01:51:41] <grml-user> what does lsb release do? it's
jessie, if that helps.
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403[01:51:42] <markybob> grml-user: i haven't given
instructions. i've asked information that you've failed to
give. so i guess follow them. you're making it too hard for me.
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406[01:52:14] <grml-user> markybob: please bear with me if i
missed a message. i only have a few lines of text in this irssi, and
tehre are quits and stuff.
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407[01:52:41] <grml-user> somebody wanted me to do a command in
a chroot. i am trying to know how to do the chroot, as i forgot. i
guess i will go into my script and use that.
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413[01:56:30] <grml-user> i know markybob has given up, but i am
having trouble creating the chroot, because grml says that sda1 is
already mounted when i try to mount it to /media/root/boot
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414[01:56:43] <grml-user> and i think i need that to create the
chroot
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416[01:57:29] <grml-user> is there a way i can get a basic early
shell in debian so i can mount the stuff i need and just get myself
up on debian and talk to you from there? i tried rescue modes and
they all had the same problem!
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417[01:57:40] <grml-user> maybe i didn't try enough of
them?
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of the grub kernels with all of the rescue modes. if markybob gave
up because i couldn't create the chroot, maybe he will like me
better if i am on a native debian environment
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459[02:13:01] <pflanze> Does anyone know whether with DKIM, you
should set up a new key for each from domain, or just one key for
the reverse DNS of the sending server?
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481[02:22:37] <rjsalts> pflanze: DKIM is per message
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485[02:23:47] <pflanze> rjsalts, what I mean, the key pair, not
signatures.
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486[02:24:12] <pflanze> Do you use a different key pair
depending on the domain of the from address, or just helo name or
reverse dns?
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487[02:24:17] <rjsalts> pflanze: there is a header in each
message giving the selector and domain which can be arbitrary.
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488[02:24:41] <pflanze> I kinda know. I'm currently using
one key pair for all of my domains.
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490[02:25:08] <pflanze> But I'm afraid that this is the
wrong way to do it, and might be the reason why I'm not getting
good delivery.
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498[02:28:59] <rjsalts> pflanze: it shouldn't matter.
I'd imagine that some mail asps do the same thing where their
customers have outsourced things such as newsletters and promotional
email
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505[02:30:57] <rjsalts> pflanze: but it's pretty hard to
tell as email recipients usually don't share their heuristics
and they're in a state of constant change as they adapt to the
spam they're receiving
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509[02:32:37] <ryouma> ok, i am in a native environment now, so
i can communicate better. i got up on debian by trying all the
kernels. i got in with sysvinit 3.16 kernel, and then i did ^D to
continue after an error. the proximal problem was that there was a
bad superblock error for /dev/mapper/big. another problem is that i
kept getting usb disconnect spam on the terminal periodically.
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510[02:32:44] <ryouma> the worst problem is that with all of
these kernels, the text is much, much, much too small for me to read
it. so i literally have to guess what i am typing. my monitor cannot
be put into a different resolution from hardware. i do not know how
to do so from the linux command line.
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516[02:35:05] <ryouma> markybob, i ran lsb_release -a (on my
current tenuous setup) (if that is what you wanted) and it gave the
information one would expect it to give. i.e. i am running an up to
date jessie. Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 (jessie) no lsb modules available,
whatever that means.
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518[02:35:55] <rjsalts> pflanze: so I guess what I'm saying
is, experiment, see if changing domain/selector in your DKIM signing
makes a difference for various recipients
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521[02:37:37] <pflanze> I wonder how to do that well. I've
been creating new gmail accounts for that purpose, but am afraid
some of google's algorithms will have detected that it's
me, and think I must be a spammer, and since they know the domains
are from me, too (hosted with them),
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522[02:37:47] <pflanze> that might even explain why I've
got a hard time delivering mail.
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525[02:38:29] <pflanze> And asking the same real people each
time is useless since at some point google doesn't deliver to
spam for them anymore.
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526[02:38:44] <pflanze> Just for people I haven't sent mail
to previously.
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527[02:38:54] <ryouma> |_[O_O]_|: what i'm getting is
"mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
/dev/mapper/big, missing codepage or helper program, or other
error" when i try to map /dev/mapper/big to /media/big.
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534[02:41:01] <rjsalts> ryouma: have you tried mount -t fstype?
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543[02:44:32] <ryouma> rjsalts: yes, it gives the same error
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545[02:44:54] <ryouma> smartctl does not indicate any changes
from its last invocation
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547[02:46:05] <francium_> I got an ssd (never had one before),
and was wondering if samsung 850 120GB ssds have issues with linux
and the TRIM option?
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554[02:50:04] <markybob> francium_: there was an issue. what you
need to do is use the kernel from jessie-backports as soon as you
install
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556[02:50:40] <ryouma> so is it a coincidence that i did the
update grub and update-initramfs? is it just a corrupted filesystem?
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560[02:51:29] <francium_> markybob: Im coming from archlinux,
can you tell me which version(s) are affected and which are good for
use?
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562[02:52:03] <francium_> Also what is the issue exactly? just
TRIM?
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563[02:52:07] <markybob> francium_: basically anything in the 4
family is fine. jessie has 3.16. jessie-backports has 4.5
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564[02:52:14] <markybob> francium_: yes, just trim
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565[02:52:49] <markybob> francium_:
backports.debian.org/Instructions/
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568[02:53:26] <francium_> markybob: 4x kernel's have no
issue's at all? And I am able to safely use 'discard'
option?
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569[02:53:39] <markybob> francium_: i'm not aware of any
issue
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570[02:53:45] <francium_> First ssd, so just wanna be sure about
this stuff
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572[02:54:04] <francium_> do you own a ssd or specifically a
samsung ssd?
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574[02:54:13] <markybob> francium_: i do. not samsung
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580[02:56:27] <francium_> markybob: with the 3.x kernel, ssd
would be fine as long as I dont use TRIM option?
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581[02:57:19] <zykotick9> ahhh. /me is using 3.16 with ssd and
trim (and encrypted lvm)... what is the issue?
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586[02:58:43] <zykotick9> /: 15.2 GiB (16322314240 bytes)
trimmed
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587[02:59:14] <francium_> zykotick9: I just got an samsung 850
ssd and want to know if there are issues with using it and or using
the TRIM option
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588[02:59:45] <francium_> zykotick9: What do you mean 15.2Gib
trimmed? New to this stuff, so don't know what the exactly
means
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591[03:00:24] <zykotick9> francium_: do you mean adding trim to
fstab? <- that's not such a great idea... using fstrim on a
regular basis (i don't) is better...
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594[03:00:50] <ryouma> are there tools to investigate the bad
superblock error? should i try testdisk?
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595[03:00:51] <francium_> zykotick9: I think the fstab option is
'discard'
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596[03:00:56] <zykotick9> francium_: fyi, what i ran to get the
above output was "fstrim -v /" as root
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597[03:01:16] <zykotick9> francium_: ya, discard in fstab
isn't the greatest idea i hear... ymmv?
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599[03:02:04] <francium_> markybob suggested using backport
kernel (4x) which doesn't have issue
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600[03:02:28] <zykotick9> francium_: and that _might_ be a good
idea? i don't know what the issue is!!
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603[03:03:08] <francium_> this is what i was reading,
replaced-url
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607[03:03:57] <francium_> zykotick9: I also talked to a guy on
#archlinux, who has 840 and 850 drives and said he uses
'discard' option in fstab
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609[03:04:13] <markybob> francium_: that's my
understanding. sorry i went out for a smoke
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611[03:05:21] <francium_> What exacty is TRIM and waht does it
do? I tried searching, but I'd love to hear it explained by one
of you
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613[03:06:15] <markybob> francium_: "A Trim command (known
as TRIM in the ATA command set, and UNMAP in the SCSI command set)
allows an operating system to inform a solid-state drive (SSD) which
blocks of data are no longer considered in use and can be wiped
internally."
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614[03:06:47] <francium_> so it wipes blocks that have deleted
files?
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615[03:06:50] <zykotick9> francium_: gotta say, this is all
"news" to me... but i DO believe both the debian wiki
& what markybob is telling you. i've never run into issue
myself - but if wiki+markybob are in aggrement, you'd better
listen ;) best of luck.
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616[03:07:15] <francium_> zykotick9: about the 4.x kernel?
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619[03:07:24] <zykotick9> dunno, never run it myself...
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620[03:07:44] <francium_> zykotick9: you just run fstrim from
terminal manually right?
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621[03:08:01] <francium_> or what do you do? Not use trim at
all?
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622[03:08:04] <markybob> francium_: if you want to use trim and
insure no issues use jessie-backports and from what i read
you'll be fine
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623[03:08:04] <zykotick9> correct. /me would suggest a cron job
perhaps...
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626[03:08:45] <zykotick9> francium_: seriously, personally
i'd be listening to markybob's advice on this!
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627[03:09:02] <francium_> zykotick9: Ofcourse, just wanna hear
your expeirnce also
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629[03:10:04] <zykotick9> i've never had issue. and
personally i think using discard in fstab can actually lead to
slowdown issue... but i'm NOT an expert at all.
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630[03:10:08] <ryouma> is this issue only relevant to samsung?
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632[03:10:33] <markybob> ryouma: that particular drive was known
to have serious issues
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633[03:10:40] <rdplnt> Hi. Any anonymous free vpn servers
without registering an account?
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634[03:10:41] <francium_> debian wiki's link to kernel code
shows a few other disks as well
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635[03:11:17] <zykotick9> francium_: NOTE, i'm NOT using
the same model(s) as you.
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636[03:11:35] <francium_> zykotick9: which are you using anyway?
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640[03:13:19] <francium_> one last thing, what about disk
encryption? Haven't done that before, any guide on how to get
started? I don't think I need an LVM, just disk encryption
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641[03:13:22] <zykotick9> francium_: i have a couple ssds (all
small 128 or less) - this one is... OK, how to i get my HD info?!?!?
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642[03:13:38] <francium_> "smartctl -a"
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644[03:14:41] <markybob> francium_: if you've never done it
before just let the debian installer do it for you
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645[03:14:45] <shadows> be *careful* with smartctl
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650[03:15:18] <shadows> zykotick9: if you run a Gnome desktop
environment, there's a user interface "Gnome Disks"
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651[03:15:37] <zykotick9> francium_: "apt install
smartmontools && smartctl -a /dev/sda" ;) = ADATA SX900
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652[03:15:38] <shadows> francium_: I ran encryption on a few
machines, not currently though, what's the goal?
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653[03:15:51] <zykotick9> shadows: i'm not ;)
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655[03:16:27] <francium_> markybob: let the debian installer do
disk encryption? Where exaclty is that option?
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657[03:16:44] <markybob> francium_: it'll prompt you. you
can't miss it
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658[03:16:49] * zykotick9 uses netinst's encrypted/lvm on his SSD
drives!
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660[03:17:09] <shadows> zykotick9: okay what is being said would
be helpful but please read the manual page, there are smartctl
options that can intiate a low-level wipe of your data, and
it's not difficult to imagine typing the wrong thing by mistake
to get that started
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664[03:18:04] <zykotick9> shadows: i wasn't the one
suggesting it ;) i was the poor user using it... but it did show me
my HD manufacturer in this case
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665[03:18:08] <francium_> markybob: let say something goes
wrong, i need to backup that disk via a usb adapter or soemthing,
what is the process of decrpyting the disk when i mount it on
another linux machine?
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669[03:18:56] <markybob> francium_: you use a live cd to mount
it and decrypt it. but don't every let yourself get to that
point. backup *before* it fails. hourly even
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670[03:19:10] <markybob> ever*
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671[03:19:57] <francium_> markybob: I mean, what is the command
for decrypting? Have never done any disk encrypting at all,
that's why i ask
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673[03:20:26] <markybob> francium_: you'd use cryptsetup
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674[03:20:36] <zykotick9> francium_: sidenote, decrypting is
actually easy "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/foo NAME-foo" but
mounting the LVM stuff i always have to look up online ;)
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676[03:20:59] <shadows> francium_: those are user interfaces
which wrap kernel interfaces
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678[03:21:54] <shadows> francium_: long story is the kernel does
this all through dmsetup (dm-N devices) and luks encryption is one
of those modules for that interface
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679[03:22:00] <francium_> Just wanna thank you both for helping
me out. One last thing, is there is difference between different
ecryption method? I know there is truecrypt and dm-crypt
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681[03:22:19] <shadows> truecrypt is not in the linux kernel
upstream so far as I am aware
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682[03:22:31] <shadows> dm-crypt is the underlying thing that
cryptsetup activates
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683[03:22:35] <markybob> francium_: don't touch truecrypt.
it's done and fucked
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684[03:23:25] <jmcnaught> cryptsetup can be used to open
truecrypt volumes actually
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687[03:24:06] <markybob> still not something you want to put you
eggs in
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688[03:24:11] <francium_> so default debian encryption is the
type of encyption you hear about the fuzz trying to break into and
failing on the news? Not imply anything just wanna, know it's
not something you break easily
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691[03:24:27] <markybob> francium_: right
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692[03:24:30] <jmcnaught> no but handy to know if you need to
use one.
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693[03:24:51] <markybob> i mean who knows what the NSA can
do...but aside from that...
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694[03:25:14] <francium_> well i dont consider my self on any
significant radar
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696[03:26:20] <francium_> What about this one story I read,
parts of the disk aren't encrpyted and can be used to bypass
the entire encryption and extract keys or something
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697[03:26:25] <jmcnaught> disk encryption still helps protect
your data if the computer is stolen
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698[03:26:37] <ryouma> what is the right tool to examine a
corrupted filesystem? debugfs says bad magic number.
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699[03:26:43] <markybob> francium_: swap and /boot arent
encrypted by default
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700[03:26:58] <shadows> francium_: put another way, it's
also easily identifiable as having been an encrypted volume. If
someone comes looking, there's a LUKS signature
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701[03:27:25] <ryouma> do i have to just restore from backup? or
can i fix the magic number?
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702[03:27:25] <francium_> is that an issue people need to look
out for?
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706[03:27:43] <markybob> francium_: if you have something really
secret in swap you could get fucked. but if you're not doing
anything super secret you're fine
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707[03:27:54] <shadows> francium_: depending on local laws, ie.
it can really cause problems at the border between nations
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710[03:28:15] <francium_> a reboot should clean out swap though
right?
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711[03:28:27] <markybob> francium_: correct
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712[03:28:28] <themill> isn't swap-inside-lvm-inside-luks
what the installer tries to do?
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713[03:28:36] <markybob> francium_: may be recovered though
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714[03:28:45] <shadows> themill: suspend won't work like
that
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715[03:28:46] <francium_> again this is just randomly question
asking, not really relevent
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716[03:28:51] <themill> shadows: does here
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717[03:28:53] <markybob> themill: did that change?
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718[03:28:56] <shadows> really?
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719[03:29:10] <themill> markybob: dunno, it's so long since
I did this installation... but I don't recall doing anything
special
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720[03:29:19] <shadows> I must have missed some kind of magic
voodoo to fix the logical flaw in that process since I last looked
into it 10 years ago :/
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721[03:29:44] <francium_> markybob and zykotick9 thanks again
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722[03:29:58] <shadows> themill: suspend to ram? suspend to
disk? does it ask for password on resume?
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723[03:30:01] <themill> shadows: you unlock the luks partition
in initramfs; /boot is outside the enrypted container
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725[03:30:07] <themill> shadows: both; yes.
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726[03:30:35] <shadows> good report, thanks
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727[03:30:40] <themill> (it doesn't ask for a luks
passphrase on suspend to ram, only for suspend to disk)
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733[03:31:35] <themill> having the data encrypted is a
sufficiently standard corporate policy these days it's no
longer a sign of having something to hide
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784[04:10:27] <smev> anyone still using the abaca email filter ?
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787[04:14:43] <christian_> hello
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788[04:14:53] <markybob> smev: isn't that a hardware
filter?
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792[04:16:47] <markybob> smev: yeah. since you give them money
contact them if you need support. offtopic here.
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814[04:29:30] <smev> markybob: yea, they also made a debian
vmware version. They don't support it anymore unfortunately,
having a heck of a time trying to track it down
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821[04:34:22] <markybob> smev: i'm sure you understand why
we can't support that. it's not an ideological thing
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823[04:38:33] <smev> markybob: I understand your point. I was
just hoping someone might have a copy. Not really looking for
support
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829[04:42:57] <shadows> vmware version how?
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831[04:43:12] <shadows> as in a pre-made image of debian that
runs as a guest?
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834[04:45:49] <smev> shadows: correct
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838[04:48:08] <tekv> Hi, using debian with gnome 3.18. I cannot
stop the on-screen keyboard from popping up on a laptop. Have set
the "Screen Keyboard" to OFF in the dropdown menu in the
menu bar
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839[04:49:34] <tekv> The on-screen keyboard is also disabled in
in Univeral Access settings.
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840[04:50:09] <tekv> ...but still pops up every time the screen
is touched.
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843[04:52:51] <markybob> tekv: how do you have that? jessie has
3.14. sid has 3.20
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844[04:53:02] <markybob> tekv: i doubt you're using debian
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845[04:53:13] <tekv> using stretch
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846[04:53:25] <markybob> tekv: you're in the wrong place.
read /topic
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848[04:54:12] <markybob> people that expect testing to work
...seriously. wtf.
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849[04:54:32] <markybob> at least read the /topic
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852[04:56:17] <jawsh> Hello
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853[04:56:24] <dvs> there's a topic?
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854[04:56:39] <markybob> not that anyone reads
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855[04:57:01] * markybob goes for a smoke
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856[04:57:11] <jawsh> I have a problem with performing a
netinstall. Is this a place I can ask for help?
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859[04:58:57] <tekv> Testing has always been very reliable for
me; hardware not supported by stable. Have asked question in gnome
irc; will see if anyone in debian-next has fix for issue.
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861[05:00:13] <dvs> tekv, but testing will break once in a while
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862[05:00:19] <dvs> jawsh, ask away
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868[05:01:37] <jawsh> Thanks. I've got a Broadcom BCM43142
WiFi chip which I can't seem to get working. None of the
drivers I've found online have been accepted by the installer.
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869[05:01:50] <dvs> !firmware iso
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871[05:01:50] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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877[05:02:35] <jawsh> Oh, that sounds handy.
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878[05:02:39] <jawsh> Thanks
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914[05:25:21] <rjsalts> does anyone know of a wiki which has an
email gateway, i.e. you can create/edit a page by sending an email
message to the wiki email address
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929[05:40:06] <rjsalts> the answer is moinmoin
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971[06:05:36] <eberdich> My backlight seems to turn off after
resuming from suspend. I've tried updating drivers and getting
firmware-linux-nonfree but nothing works. Can anyone help?
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977[06:06:29] <JZA> hi I want to setup a new vhost but I am
having issues understanding how my server know how to route the
traffict to the other site.
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979[06:07:56] <JZA> I followed Digital ocean vhost manual, it
tells me to edit the /etc/apache/sites-available/default, clone it
and edit the variables for ServerAlias, ServerAdmin and
ServerName... also edit the Document Root and the Directory, finally
point my domain to the IP of the box.
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980[06:08:26] <JZA> but right now, everything is still going to
default and I am not sure how the server is aware that is coming
from a different domain.
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981[06:08:35] <JZA> Do I need to edit the port? or what?
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982[06:08:39] <JZA> or /etc/hosts
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983[06:09:48] <Rusty1_> try also #httpd if nobody here can help
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985[06:10:08] <jmcnaught> JZA: did you enable the site with the
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986[06:10:21] <JZA> yes
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this DNS might be updating, I am just not sure how will the server
make the connection
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991[06:11:27] <JZA> does httpd 'knows' if the traffic
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virtualhost for any requests that come in for that ServerName (or
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994[06:11:49] <jmcnaught> yes
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995[06:11:55] <JZA> oh ok
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1058[07:07:08] <jim> which package creates the os user gnats?
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1093[07:36:55] <Tsutsukakushi> which package in debian hurd was
updated that now requires all this junk
replaced-url
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1094[07:36:58] <Tsutsukakushi> :/
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1095[07:37:15] <slima> Hi, I have a problem. I need bind9 with
dlz-mysql, so I get source via apt, in debian/rules I'm added
option, but when I do dpkg-buildpackage it's fail because of
'mysql.h: No such file' mysql.h is in /usr/include/mysql/
How can I add this path to dpkg-buildpackage?
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1096[07:37:29] <nix1947> My keyboard and mouse aand all other USB
device are not recognized, I am only able to login SSH, I think the
prblem is with my udev, and I am running Jessie,
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1097[07:37:37] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: as questions go,
that's about as vague as you can get
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1098[07:37:42] <nix1947> How to fix the USB devices problem
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1099[07:37:57] <Tsutsukakushi> themill: what extra info do you
want
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1100[07:38:05] <nix1947> so, these are all the logs that I have
pasted
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1101[07:38:06] <nix1947>
replaced-url
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1102[07:38:15] <Tsutsukakushi> that's on a base install with
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1103[07:38:18] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: what release? what
command does that come from?
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1106[07:38:27] <Tsutsukakushi> apt upgrade
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1107[07:38:30] <apt> Upgrading is easy! Go that way, really fast.
If something gets in your way, turn.
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1108[07:38:31] <Tsutsukakushi> sid
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1109[07:38:38] <themill> full command and full output would be a
good start
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1112[07:40:24] <nix1947> Hello everyone, How to fix the USB
problem, that is not recognized in my debian
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1114[07:41:38] <Tsutsukakushi> themill:
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1117[07:42:24] <nix1947> Tsutsukakushi: Do you know how to
downgrade udev in debian 8
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1118[07:43:03] <Tsutsukakushi> is that relevant to my question?
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1125[07:47:00] <anes> Dear Friends, I need to create system image
iso ... remastersys not working fine .. Any other tool in debian?
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1126[07:47:35] <cynicallemon> refracta snapshot
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1128[07:47:58] <cynicallemon> and installer
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1130[07:48:50] <zjk> Hi, can I ask ubuntu questions here?
I'm trying to understand the output of aptitude why and why-not
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1132[07:49:19] <zjk> I also posted my question here [
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1133[07:49:34] <cynicallemon> zjk ask on #ubuntu
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1137[07:49:55] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: definitely -- nothing in
the list of upgraded packages jumps out at me, but your answer is in
there.
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1140[07:52:22] <Tsutsukakushi> themill: nothing should jump out
since i installed the os and chose the no-de option
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1141[07:52:31] <Tsutsukakushi> so there should be nothing there
that requires X11
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1143[07:52:49] <themill> there's no X11 there
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1144[07:53:09] <Tsutsukakushi> well
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1145[07:53:16] <cynicallemon> Tsutsukakushi, maybe gcc?
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1147[07:53:18] <Tsutsukakushi> x11-utils, x11-bunchofstuff
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1148[07:53:20] <anes> cynicallemon: which source can use :
/testing/refractainstaller-gui_9.1.8_all.deb is it enough from
sourceforge?
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1149[07:53:35] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: which is hundreds of MB
different to X11
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1152[07:53:59] <Tsutsukakushi> this is hundreds of MB different
from not having all this junk
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1153[07:54:19] <cynicallemon> Tsutsukakushi, is that install in a
vm like virtualbox?
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1154[07:54:26] <Tsutsukakushi> no
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1155[07:54:33] <Tsutsukakushi> it's on real hardware
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1157[07:55:28] <themill> the size will be mostly from texlive not
a couple of x11 libraries
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1158[07:55:47] <cynicallemon> anes, just use the latest available
snapshot and installer debs
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1159[07:56:01] <Tsutsukakushi> what requires that?
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1160[07:56:07] <Tsutsukakushi> that didn't previously
require it
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1162[07:56:29] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: that's actually
easier for you to work out than me because you've got the
system in front of you
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1163[07:56:44] <Tsutsukakushi> what command tells me that then?
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1164[07:56:47] <cynicallemon> anes, if youre happy on the
commandline then no need for gui addons
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1165[07:57:33] <Tsutsukakushi> some package managers tell
straight away what has added a new dependency
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1166[07:57:33] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: "aptitude upgrade -W
-D" will likely be informative
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1167[07:58:21] <Tsutsukakushi> k
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1170[08:00:03] <Tsutsukakushi> seems like its most, if not all
for texinfo :/
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1172[08:01:03] <anes> cynicallemon: then please give the command
to install same?
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1174[08:01:04] <themill> texinfo Depends: tex-common (>= 6)
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1176[08:02:33] <themill> ahh no, Recommends:
texlive-fonts-recommended
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1178[08:03:05] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: you can try preventing
the upgrade from installing recommended packages (-R with aptitude)
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1184[08:06:06] <Tsutsukakushi> thanks
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1189[08:07:22] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: did that solve it?
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1190[08:07:32] <Tsutsukakushi> yeah
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1196[08:10:03] <anes> cynicallemon: I got command
'refractainstaller' on terminal .. I need to create only
snapshot
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1203[08:12:30] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: excellent. Can you please
report a bug against texinfo pointing out that the Recommends has
unwanted consequences (given texinfo is Priority: standard) and that
suggesting that it be downgraded to a Suggests?
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1206[08:12:51] <Tsutsukakushi> ok
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1207[08:13:10] <Tsutsukakushi> does thje bug tracker require me
to register?
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1230[08:22:26] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: no, just send the
properly formatted email; the reportbug package can do that for you
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1251[08:35:54] <anes> refracta snapshot gui not working in Debian
jessie , any body please advise
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1253[08:36:42] <cynicallemon> anes, not working how?
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1255[08:36:50] <anes> i am using version 9.3.33
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1256[08:37:18] <anes> cynicallemon: when select GUI not show any
thing?
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1258[08:37:35] <cynicallemon> anes, just use the terminal
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1261[08:38:01] <cynicallemon> as root, refractasnapshot
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1263[08:38:17] <cynicallemon> then follow instructions
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1283[08:49:48] <anes> cynicallemon: Created iso with name :
snapshot-20160519_1216.iso but it have 31.5 MB
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1284[08:50:08] <anes> cynicallemon: why this small file ??
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1285[08:50:23] <cynicallemon> not sure
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1286[08:51:12] <anes> i think its not working properly right?
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1287[08:51:21] <cynicallemon> try again and make sure about the
answers you give to the questions
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1288[08:51:33] <cynicallemon> 31.5 is way too small
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1289[08:51:44] <anes> cynicallemon: any other tool which work in
Debian Jessie?
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1295[08:53:00] <cynicallemon> anes, if it doesn't work i
would install an different/older version of the snapshot
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1298[08:55:12] <anes> that refractsnapshot old version right?
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page at sourceforge, you might be using a beta or sid/testing
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1303[08:57:20] <cynicallemon> 9.2.22 is the latest stable
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1403[10:01:44] <no_gravity> I am downloading 1G to my mp3 player
via USB and it says it will takt 50m. Ok. But why is my internet now
slow too?
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1427[10:09:56] <kripx> check you bandwidth no_gravity
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1430[10:11:34] <no_gravity> It's fast on my other computers.
Only the one that fills my MP3 player is slow.
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1431[10:11:50] <no_gravity> That's what I find strange.
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1432[10:12:40] <no_gravity> Why does the USB transfer clog up the
wifi?
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1433[10:12:46] <ChrisH> no_gravity: check load via uptime. I
assume it's high
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1434[10:13:06] <no_gravity> ChrisH: it's 1,93 1,52 1,23
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1435[10:13:19] <no_gravity> Not much. I have 8 Cores.
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1436[10:13:47] <ChrisH> no_gravity: I had strange bahaviour with
USB and filetransfers
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1478[10:36:27] <anes> how to add preseed when creating iso using
refractasnapshot?
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1480[10:37:12] <anes> I created iso using refractasnapshot, but I
don't know how to edit it?
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1487[10:40:23] <Iridos> what's refractasnapshot?
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1489[10:41:07] <FinalX> this, I guess,
replaced-url
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1491[10:41:38] <Iridos> can't be, he wouldn't ask about
that in #debian
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1492[10:41:52] <Iridos> dpkg, refracta
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1493[10:41:53] <dpkg> parse error: dunno what the heck
you're talking about, Iridos
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1504[10:50:21] <Iridos> dpkg, refracta is <reply> Refracta
(replaced-url
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1505[10:50:21] <dpkg> Iridos: okay
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1522[11:01:18] <Sakami> Hi. How to install cross toolchains in
debian jessie?
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1523[11:01:40] <Sakami> I tried adding emdebian repos, but their
signing key is invalid
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1524[11:01:50] <Sakami> accroding to
replaced-url
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1525[11:01:51] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1556[11:18:20] <Voyager82> Hello. I hope this is the proper
channel to ask. I currently have installed on my PC Debian Jessie.
I'm trying to install aMule, but aMule is not present in the
Jessie repos. I've read, in the internet, that other people had
the same problem. What do you think is the best (and painless)
solution? :) Thank you in advance.
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1564[11:24:32] <fireba11> Voyager82: technically you're
wrong here since the outermost boundary for debian is what is
included in the debian repository :-D
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1566[11:26:23] <Voyager82> fireba11, yes. The point is that aMule
"was" in the repos, and it seems that "still is"
in the repos, at least in the "sid" distro. :) My question
was if upgrading to "sid" (unstable) is the only solution.
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1567[11:27:34] <bazhang> ,v amule
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1568[11:27:35] <judd> Package: amule on amd64 -- squeeze:
2.2.6+debian0-8; wheezy: 2.3.1-9; jessie-multimedia:
2.3.1+git1a369e47-dmo4bp1; sid: 2.4.0~git20151120.0023527bc2-1+b2;
stretch: 2.4.0~git20151120.0023527bc2-1+b2
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1570[11:27:58] <eject_ck> Hi all
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1571[11:28:00] <eject_ck> On high-loaded servers I'm using
bond-ed interface with 2x 1Gbe slave interfaces, want to get 2Gbe
for both inbound and outbound traffic. I do have VLAN interface
which is using bond0 - "vlan-raw-device bond0". On switch
(Cisco 2960) I have portchannel with active mode configured.
I'm using bond-mode 802.3ad, bond-lacp-rate 1 and
bond-xmit-hash-policy encap3+4 (also tried with
bond-xmit-hash-policy layer3+4) and running iperf
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1575[11:28:25] <bazhang> ##networking eject_ck
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1577[11:28:36] <Voyager82> What is Jessie-multimedia?
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1579[11:29:28] <bazhang> did you mean whats in it?
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1581[11:29:52] <themill> Voyager82: deb-multimedia.org (not
recommended; the bot carries the data so we can debug the problems
it causes)
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1583[11:30:55] <jelly> eject_ck: you'll never get full 2Gpbs
with a single tcp connection, have to use multiple connections
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1584[11:31:09] <rook2pawn> xset s off; xset q; still shows prefer
blanking: yes timeout: 0, additionally DPMS Standby:600
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1586[11:31:29] <Voyager82> What is the most "painless"
solution to solve the problem? I've read that some people,
modified their "sources.list" files, just to install aMule
from "sid", and that put it back to normal. Some other
people directly installed "aMule" from the
".deb" files.
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1587[11:31:39] <rook2pawn> is there a way to just stop the DPMS
stuff. i thought xset s off should deal with it all ?
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1589[11:32:22] <fireba11> Voyager82: you can check if it's
in backports
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1590[11:32:51] <Voyager82> fireba11, I should look for backports.
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1591[11:32:51] <eject_ck> jelly: I do have both multiple tcp
sessions for outbound traffic (-P5 and using client connection to
two different ports on server(s)).
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1593[11:33:47] <eject_ck> On client host I can confirm I can
"generate" 2 Gb of traffic (outbound) which is balanced on
both interfaces, but not on "iperf server" where it comes
over single NIC.
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1597[11:34:58] <Voyager82> fireba11, however it seems it's
in "stretch", but I don't want to upgrade my distro
yet. I'm still looking for the least "painful"
solution, at the present moment. :)
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1598[11:35:13] <jelly> eject_ck: can you confirm with "cat
/proc/net/bonding/bond0" your intended settings are active?
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1599[11:35:49] <jelly> on the linux side
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1600[11:35:56] <eject_ck> yes
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1602[11:36:08] <eject_ck> it's there in pastebin
replaced-url
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1603[11:36:39] <eject_ck> I posted config from two hosts
(actually I have 4 with same configuration)
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1605[11:36:56] <eject_ck> Only suspicious I have is that i'm
using VLAN on top of bond0
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1606[11:37:20] <eject_ck> that's why I have Transmit Hash
Policy: encap3+4 (4)
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1607[11:37:25] <eject_ck> make sense for me
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1608[11:37:31] <Voyager82> If I install aMule from the
"deb" file, should I expect any problem with dependencies?
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1609[11:37:32] <eject_ck> also tried with layer3+4
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1614[11:41:08] <jelly> eject_ck: we used xmit_hash_policy 1
(layer3+4) and a bunch of vlans in a trunk on top of bond and it
worked
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1618[11:42:09] <jelly> as in it got 2 phys. ifaces on a server
filled with traffic from multiple clients
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1630[11:45:15] <eject_ck> jelly: I tried, got same results
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1631[11:45:18] <eject_ck> will try again
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1632[11:45:34] <eject_ck> btw, what switches you are using :?
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1637[11:48:30] <eject_ck> are you getting 2Gb for both rx and tx
?
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1640[11:50:47] <Voyager82> Hi. I couldn't find any backport
for installing "aMule" on Debian Jessie. I could try to
install it from "Wheezy", "Stretch" or
"Sid", but I'm a little afraid of the dependencies.
Do you have any suggestion?
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1641[11:51:08] <bigstylee> hi. i am trying to get svn1.7 on
jessie and google isn't being my friend today. is anyone able
to point me in the right direction please?
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1682[12:14:59] <Walex> bigstylee: 'apt-cache policy
subversion'
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1686[12:16:40] <Walex> Voyager82: you can download source package
and recompile, a local backport, e.g. with
replaced-url
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1687[12:16:49] <bigstylee> if i am to understand the output
correctly, it looks like ubuntu jessie doesn't support 1.7
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1692[12:18:29] <Walex> bigstylee: that would be surprising
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1694[12:18:52] <Walex> bigstylee:
replaced-url
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1702[12:21:57] <Voyager82> Walex, should I expect any problems
with dependencies? I've read that some other people encountered
some, when they did something like that.
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1703[12:22:29] <bigstylee> forgive me, all abit new to me. but i
am looking at "subversion (1.8.10-6+deb8u4)" which i
interupt as svn1.8 and i am after 1.7? dont see any references to
1.7 on that page or 'apt-cache policy'
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1708[12:23:57] <jelly> ,v subversion
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1709[12:23:58] <judd> Package: subversion on amd64 -- squeeze:
1.6.12dfsg-7; squeeze-security: 1.6.12dfsg-7; squeeze-security-lts:
1.6.12dfsg-7+deb6u3; wheezy: 1.6.17dfsg-4+deb7u10; wheezy-security:
1.6.17dfsg-4+deb7u11; wheezy-backports: 1.8.10-6+deb8u2~bpo70+1;
jessie: 1.8.10-6+deb8u3; jessie-security: 1.8.10-6+deb8u4;
jessie-proposed-updates: 1.8.10-6+deb8u4; sid: 1.9.4-1; stretch:
1.9.4-1
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1713[12:24:57] <jelly> bigstylee: there is no 1.7 in a debian
release apparently
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1716[12:26:34] <jelly> bigstylee: if you need it you'll have
to build it yourself
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1717[12:26:39] <bigstylee> i found some instructions for getting
1.7 on Wheezy which invovled added new apt sources.
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1719[12:27:04] <bigstylee> i will find another work around. ty
for the help.
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1720[12:27:21] <jelly> bigstylee: what makes 1.8 from jessie
unsuitable for your needs anyway?
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1723[12:28:11] <bigstylee> my colleagues are still using 1.7
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1728[12:28:54] <bigstylee> we dont do local development, so we
need to be in sync on svn version
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1731[12:29:12] <Voyager82> Walex, I'll read carefully what
you suggested. It seems to be able to solve the problem. Thank you.
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1737[12:29:57] <jelly> bigstylee: if a version was at any point
present in debian, you can find it on snapshot.debian.org
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1740[12:31:42] <jelly> not sure why it matters what version you
use locally, as long as the repo you all commit to is some older
version, but okay
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1743[12:33:51] <bigstylee> i am abit of a n00b and use
tortoiseSVN for my commits. i have setup a local environment for a
new project as a bit of a test. tis alright though, i can commit on
the command line when working locally and use tortoiseSVN for the
other projects.
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1744[12:34:41] <bigstylee> we use samba for other projects and
the format the of the .svn folder changes from 1.7 to 1.8
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1745[12:35:45] <themill> sharing a checkout always seems
attractive but never works well
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1747[12:36:46] <bigstylee> we rarely are working on the same
project at the same time, so its not too much of an issue for us.
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1750[12:37:57] <bigstylee> but there is some real benefit to
working locally by removing the network traffic delay in terms of
commits and IDE. so something i am trying to champion.
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1754[12:39:20] <themill> There's plenty of build systems and
IDEs that can't cope with the source on something like samba
too
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1755[12:40:08] <TomTomTosch> sounds like the decentralized nature
of git would be more suited for you.
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1761[12:44:16] <bigstylee> aslong as you map the network drive,
PHPStorm (our IDE of choice) works pretty well
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1762[12:44:19] <bigstylee> yeh, git i think would be a positive
move too. small steps atm!
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1766[12:46:39] <Voyager82> Can I follow this procedure to install
aMule?
replaced-url
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1770[12:48:13] <TomTomTosch> ,checkbackport amule
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1772[12:48:26] <TomTomTosch> hmpf
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1776[12:49:39] <judd> Backporting package amule in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie, virtual.
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1777[12:50:11] <TomTomTosch> ha! Voyager82 ^
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1778[12:50:29] <TomTomTosch> ,v amule
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1779[12:50:30] <judd> Package: amule on amd64 -- squeeze:
2.2.6+debian0-8; wheezy: 2.3.1-9; jessie-multimedia:
2.3.1+git1a369e47-dmo4bp1; sid: 2.4.0~git20151120.0023527bc2-1+b2;
stretch: 2.4.0~git20151120.0023527bc2-1+b2
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1780[12:50:36] <Voyager82> Can I backport from
"stretch"?
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1781[12:50:52] <TomTomTosch> Voyager82: they have the same
version so it doesn't matter.
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1784[12:52:07] <Voyager82> TomTomTosch, if I backport from
"Sid", is there the "risk" that I install some
Sid "libraries" that conflict with other
"Jessie" package. In understand that I'll remove the
"Sid" deb-src line, after installing aMule.
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1786[12:52:39] <TomTomTosch> Voyager82: no, it will pull the
source for only that package and install all deps from jessie.
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1788[12:53:26] <Voyager82> Ok. And then I'll remove the Sid
deb-src line from sources.list.
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1789[12:53:48] <willemb> i have unallocated space in a logical
volume group. the lvm was built on top of a 2 disk raid 1 setup. Is
it possible to reduce the pv, then the partition?
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1790[12:53:49] <TomTomTosch> if you wish, it doesn't hurt.
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1791[12:53:57] <willemb> or, where else should I ask about this?
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1792[12:54:13] <mRokita_> How can i edit /etc/pam.d/su to make
user a su without password to user b only if user a is connected
through ssh?
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1793[12:54:16] <Voyager82> TomTomTosch, doesn't it, when I
go "apt-get upgrade"?
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1795[12:54:37] <TomTomTosch> Voyager82: not the deb-src line.
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1798[12:55:35] <Voyager82> Ok. Too bad they erased it from
Jessie, though. :)
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1811[12:58:01] <TomTomTosch> Voyager82: yeah, it was removed from
testing on 18 Jul 2014, so it didn't make it into jessie. i
guess they didn't fix the bugs in time.
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1825[13:01:19] <jelly> eject_ck: [switches] used to be cisco
2970G and 2960G, now it's a nexus of some kind [direction] only
cared about rx, haven't tried to push more than 1Gbps out at
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1827[13:01:38] <Voyager82> I've always asked myself what
will happens when they run out of character's names from Toy
Story. :)
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1869[13:21:37] <fireba11> Voyager82: this sbould take at least 20
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1898[13:38:34] <G66K> hello everyone, i was wondering if there
any package that allows you to extract files using right-click
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1903[13:46:27] <musca> G66K: plenty ...
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1904[13:46:50] <musca> which desktop and which filemanager do you
use?
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1905[13:49:06] <musca> ,info file-roller
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1906[13:49:07] <judd> Package file-roller (gnome, optional) in
jessie/amd64: archive manager for GNOME. Version: 3.14.1-1; Size:
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1907[13:49:31] <G66K> musca Gnome
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1908[13:49:51] <G66K> well i just install file-roller thanks
though
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1909[13:50:49] <musca> G66K: it integrates with nautilus (aka
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1938[14:05:09] <hmpf> Hello!
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1939[14:05:52] <hmpf> I'm wokring on a ALSA driver for a
custom codec device. Could I ask something about that here, or can
you point me to a better channel for that?
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1941[14:06:10] <jelly> /msg alis list *alsa*
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1942[14:06:22] <hmpf> k, thx
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1943[14:06:49] <jelly> or dunno, #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net ?
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1944[14:07:05] <jelly> there is a ##kernel here on freenode, too
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2005[14:39:40] <_mel_> hello. i have a xen guest without access
to the console output. can i redirect messages for the console, like
starting and stopping services to syslog?
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2014[14:45:34] <_mel_> a remove syslog server is configured. but
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2015[14:46:03] <_mel_> can i make sure to reboot the server after
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2021[14:49:34] <FriendsNone> what packages should i install to
have audio?
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2024[14:50:32] <Voyager82> Is it normal that it takes some time,
when I execute "apt-get -b source PACKAGE_NAME"?
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2031[14:52:16] <FriendsNone> what packages should i install to
have audio?
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2035[14:54:20] <blind> dpkg: tell FriendsNone about alsa
checklist
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2044[14:55:35] <Voyager82> FriendsNone, try to open the mixer to
see if the volume is ok.
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2045[14:56:28] <FriendsNone> its a fresh install and i dont have
alsa installed
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2048[14:57:08] <FriendsNone> thats why i'm asking what
packages should i get/install
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2050[14:58:01] <Voyager82> FriendsNone, most distro, as far as I
know, install Alsa automatically. I feel to suggest you to check
everything first, before you attempot to (probably) re-install Alsa.
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2053[14:59:39] <Voyager82> FriendsNone, open the mixer. There
must be one available even in the GUI environment.
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2062[15:02:54] <Voyager82> Try the following gommand, as root:
"alsactl init". However, read the following page for
further details:
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2063[15:03:02] <Voyager82> FriendsNone.
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2081[15:11:17] <Sakami> How can I use the emdebian toolchain in
debian jessie?
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2083[15:11:27] <Sakami> As I add their repo I got 'W: GPG
error:
replaced-url
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2099[15:21:26] <Sakami> I've updated
emdebian-archive-keyring 2.0.5 from sid repo and it still wont work.
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2100[15:21:46] <centrx> Ah that’s what I was just going to
recommend
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2102[15:22:11] <centrx> Sakami You tried the one for jessie
already?
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2108[15:23:12] <Iridos> Sakami, emdebian has been discontinued
since June 2014...
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2109[15:23:20] <themill> REVKEYSIG means the signature is by a
revoked key, no amount of updating will change that
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2111[15:23:53] <Sakami> Iridos: emdebian-archive-keyring for
debian jessie is 2.0.4
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2113[15:24:29] <Sakami> Iridos: So is there a way I can get a
useable armel cross toolchain on debian jessie?
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2116[15:25:34] <FriendsNone> I solved my own problem
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2122[15:27:01] <Iridos> Sakami, good question... did you look at
the wiki at
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2123[15:27:32] <Iridos> well, and
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2135[15:32:26] <Sakami> Iridos: Thanks. It seems that they all
refer to
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2138[15:33:18] <Avernos_> hi
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2139[15:33:18] <Avernos_> followed this doc however nothing
changes when i do hostname -f
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2140[15:33:18] <Avernos_>
replaced-url
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2144[15:35:48] <Iridos> Avernos_, what are you trying to do
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2145[15:36:27] <Iridos> and there is not a single time the string
"hostname -f" in that wiki page
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2147[15:38:43] <Avernos_> Iridos, just want to change the
hostname. however, at any reboot it resets or reverts
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2150[15:39:40] <Avernos_> net config is on static, so doubt dhcp
is setting this up
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2170[15:46:34] <Avernos_> Iridos, if it helps, the file is on
read only..
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2188[15:59:44] <DammitJim> I have a simple issue... not sure if
it is Debian related, though
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2189[15:59:51] <DammitJim> we have a test and prod environment
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2190[16:00:08] <DammitJim> emails get sent out from some
applications
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2191[16:00:24] <DammitJim> while in test, we don't want
emails to go to the customer, but in prod we obviously do
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2193[16:01:05] <DammitJim> I had put an exim server up that only
forwards emails to our real email server if the domain matches our
domain
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2195[16:01:19] <DammitJim> well, the developers made a mistake
and they left that server configured but for prod
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2197[16:01:31] <DammitJim> is there a better solution I should
have provided?
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2198[16:02:47] <module000> DammitJim: run 2 instances of your
MTA, with one of them listening on 127.0.0.X, and the other
listening on 127.0.0.Y. use /etc/hosts to direct your equivalent of
"mailhost.yourdomain.foo" to 127.0.0.X or Y respectively.
The "test" instance should blackhole mail or be configured
to do something else besides relaying it
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2199[16:02:59] <module000> DammitJim: there are a limitless
amount of solutions to the problem you described, that's just 1
of them.
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2203[16:03:37] <module000> you could also use procmail to inspect
the mail, determine if it's 'test' or not, and relay
or blackhole it accordingly
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2205[16:03:56] <DammitJim> my boss is asking to set up an entry
in the hosts file of the test servers to point the
"production" email server name to the IP of the
"test" email server
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2207[16:04:25] <module000> DammitJim: sounds like your boss has a
good idea of a quick solution to this. that's why he's the
boss :)
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2210[16:05:28] <DammitJim> module000, then what's my
problem? I hate making manual entries in the host files
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2211[16:05:28] <DammitJim> it doesn't scale (according to
what my tiny brain thinks)
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2212[16:06:36] <module000> DammitJim: well, think of a scalable
version of the first suggestion. What is your /etc/hosts file
designed to do? and is there another system that *would* scale to
multiple hosts? (hint: dns)
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2213[16:06:55] <DammitJim> I was thinking more along the lines
of...
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2214[16:07:05] <module000> DammitJim: then you have an even
simpler solution, your test hosts use the test DNS server, which
makes sure mail.myorg.com doesn't aim where you don't want
it to
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2216[16:07:37] <module000> procmail is probably your
"best" solution though, use it on your MTA. then it can
intelligently discard messages from the test hosts
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2218[16:07:48] <DammitJim> could I configure exim on this
"test" server in such a way that I can differentiate
between test and prod servers
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2219[16:08:00] <DammitJim> then at least it is all in one place
and the developers don't have to change their code
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2220[16:08:18] <DammitJim> oh gosh, I think our MTA is Lotus Mail
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2221[16:08:29] <module000> DammitJim: maybe, I don't know
enough about configuring exim to tell you if it can use those types
of rules. I would use procmail, which will work independently of
your MTA
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2222[16:08:43] <DammitJim> oh ok
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2224[16:08:53] <DammitJim> thanks! we are officially off topic
now
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2232[16:10:51] <eluus> I have installed pepperflashplugin-nonfree
but opera doesn't have flash
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2238[16:13:14] <jelly> eluus: where did you get an opera from,
and is it 32bit or 64bit opera?
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2239[16:13:30] <lillyhammer> eluus: either its disabled in
settings or else opera dont support flash
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2240[16:13:43] <lillyhammer> i dont use it so not too sure
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2260[16:22:51] <eluus> jelly: from opera.com, it's 64 bit
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2261[16:23:08] <eluus> lillyhammer: it's not visible on
opera://plugins
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2262[16:23:28] <eluus> after installing pepperflash it became
enabled in chromium
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2263[16:24:03] <scream> it probably has a different plugin path
than debian default
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2264[16:24:23] <scream> it will probably be somewhere under /opt
with the rest of opera
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2269[16:25:11] <scream> you'll have to either copy the
plugin or symlink the whole directory
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2271[16:25:28] <scream> with symlink you get package updates ;)
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2272[16:25:39] <eluus> on ubuntu it's at
usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/
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2276[16:25:51] <eluus> I'll make the same dir
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2279[16:26:22] <scream> there should be a way to see the plugin
path somewhere in the opera:// pages
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2283[16:27:18] <jelly> eluus: then it ought to work, if opera can
find it
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2294[16:30:09] <acu> does anyone have suggestion for desktop
application to write technical documentation /howtos (where you can
add pictures too ?) - of course I know about LibreOffice writer
(which is somehow to stuffy) and lyx (which makes tough to copy
paste code from it)...
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2297[16:30:41] <zuzzas_> LIBREOFFICE, FREEDOM, FREEDOM!!!
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2298[16:30:47] <lord_rob> LaTeX
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2299[16:31:18] <lord_rob> ---> kile
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2300[16:31:21] <acu> Lyx is built on top of latex - but never use
latex on its own
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2303[16:32:11] <SagelessFox2> zuzzas_: freedom is nothing
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2306[16:32:30] <fernie> web browser and google docs
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2308[16:32:46] <SagelessFox2> There may be a backdoor in your
bios,your hdd and even in your router kernels zuzzas_
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2309[16:33:24] <lord_rob> not with libreoffice SagelessFox2
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2311[16:33:32] <lord_rob> ^^
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2312[16:33:42] <SagelessFox2> XD
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2314[16:34:05] <zuzzas_> Libre Office is pure, untainted freedom
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2316[16:34:16] <zuzzas_> It's in its name, it's in its
soul.
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2319[16:34:39] <nkuttler> acu: i'd go with LaTeX
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2320[16:34:39] <lord_rob> but still, pure latex rules
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2321[16:34:48] <nkuttler> it's what i use, actually
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2322[16:35:05] <lord_rob> nkuttler: agreed
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2325[16:35:21] <scream> latex + macros for repetetive stuff ;)
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2328[16:35:51] <scream> i used dia + eps export for diagrams
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2330[16:36:03] <nkuttler> yeah, dia is nice for diagrams
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2332[16:36:14] <scream> pictures were mostly SVGs either drawn
with inkscape or from wikipedia
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2336[16:36:36] <lord_rob> LO draw is nice too
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2337[16:36:55] <eluus> k guys, now it works after I copy the
plugin into the same folder chrome uses in ubuntu
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2338[16:36:56] <scream> spell checking was done with vim
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2339[16:36:57] <nkuttler> i use dia for blueprints, and graphs
with real data are created programmatically
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2340[16:37:21] <scream> graphviz is cool for a lot of generated
stuff :D
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2343[16:37:43] <scream> gnuplot for graphs. polar plot support
was very intuitive
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2345[16:38:17] <varesa> How do I define a static domain with IP
from DHCP on (raspbian) Jessie?
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2348[16:38:26] <lord_rob> gnuplot rulez that's what I use
also
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2349[16:38:33] <themill> (anything but gnuplot, please)
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2351[16:38:40] <SagelessFox2> People in ligo use python for graph
^ ^
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2353[16:38:51] <nkuttler> varesa: #raspbian
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2354[16:39:04] <varesa> nkuttler, didn't know that exists.
thanks
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2355[16:39:04] <scream> as long as it gets the job done. ;)
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2357[16:39:20] <varesa> is networking different in raspbian
jessie than debian jessie btw?
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2359[16:39:44] <nkuttler> varesa: probably not, but how should we
know?
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2360[16:39:58] <varesa> nkuttler, fair enough
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2368[16:43:32] <varesa> took me a while to realize why I
couldn't join #raspbian... "freenode: You have joined too
many channels"
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2369[16:43:34] <varesa> lol
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2370[16:43:43] <SagelessFox2> I love gnu much, is there any
problem for me to register the domain "gnu.tw' ?
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2372[16:44:25] <nkuttler> varesa: waaat. how many are you in?
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2373[16:44:37] <nkuttler> SagelessFox2: ask the fsf?
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2374[16:44:42] <SagelessFox2> I will not publish any information
as a staff that work for gnu
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2375[16:44:47] <SagelessFox2> fsf?
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2376[16:45:09] <SagelessFox2> works*
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2379[16:45:59] <varesa> nkuttler, this many:
replaced-url
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2380[16:46:05] <varesa> (120)
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2382[16:46:28] <nkuttler> varesa: interesting
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2383[16:46:42] <varesa> SagelessFox2, free software foundation
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2419[17:00:55] <acu> varesa: your question - as I understood it,
has nothing to do with debian, but is a basic networking question -
solutions is simple - assign an IP (static) that is not covered on
your DHCP scope (so if your router gives out ips from 100 to 255
then you assign a static IP 99 to your machine) there are routers
who can "reserve" a dhcp given address to a single machine
(based on MAC address - will always give that machine same IP - so
at
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2420[17:00:55] <acu> the linux machine you can have dhcp, but the
router will always give the same IP - again, this is a networking
setup
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2424[17:01:39] <varesa> acu, no I want to get an IP from dhcp
(different wifis, 3g, etc.)
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2426[17:01:58] <varesa> but for puppet certificates to work I
need to have a fixed fqdn (hostname.domain)
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2436[17:04:31] <acu> it is still a basic networking question -
but you should describe more clearly what you want, all your
computers are on LAN ? usually you setup in hosts
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2437[17:04:35] <acu> /etc/hosts
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2439[17:04:43] <acu> !hosts
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2440[17:04:44] <dpkg> /etc/hosts is a static lookup table for
hostnames. "man 5 hosts" for more information and example
content. To change your system's hostname, ask me about
<hostname>.
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2443[17:05:50] <acu> if you setup your dhcp to always give you
the same IP address - you can add that IP address there - but again,
I am not clear about your setup, so the answer is not posbile
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2448[17:07:00] <FinalX> varesa: in puppet you can force what
hostname to send to the server, what to identify as, you should use
that
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2450[17:07:06] <FinalX> in /etc/puppet/puppet.conf
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2453[17:07:57] <varesa> acu, the issue is there are multiple
routers/DHCP servers from time to time and I don't control all
of them
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2456[17:08:19] <varesa> so it has to be done clientside
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2458[17:08:53] <varesa> FinalX, I'll look into that
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2460[17:09:05] <FinalX> varesa: I use that for my puppet nodes
with dynamic IP's, works great :)
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2461[17:09:59] <varesa> FinalX, It'd still be nice to have
device07.myorg as the fqdn but I'll accept a working
device07.somedomain too :)
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2463[17:11:07] <FinalX> you can still send device07.myorg as
hostname to puppet though, to request configuration for that, but
yeah, dns-wise... wins perhaps? dnsmasq does something with it iirc,
but I haven't looked into any of it tbh
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2465[17:11:26] <varesa> I think I got it... Added 'static
domain_name=myorg' to /etc/dhcpcd.conf
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2466[17:12:04] <varesa> I tried configuring dhclient but
apparently the rpi foundation image uses dhcpcd instead
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2467[17:12:07] <FinalX> ah, yeah, or just disable setting
hostname altogether and just edit /etc/hostname as well
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2468[17:12:24] <FinalX> ah
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2470[17:13:14] <varesa> nowhere did I find a list of settings I
can use with "static xxx=yyy" but guessed from
domain_name_servers
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2548[17:52:45] <kingkong-> how do i find my full system specs?
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2549[17:53:00] <kingkong-> on wheezy
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2550[17:54:08] <mtn> kingkong-: lspci -nn is a good place to
start
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2553[17:55:27] <kingkong-> pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci
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2554[17:55:27] <kingkong-> lspci: Cannot find any working access
method.
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2555[17:55:42] <kingkong-> gives error^
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2557[17:56:10] <mtn> kingkong-: what kind of system is this?
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2559[17:56:24] <kingkong-> wheezy vps
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2561[17:56:37] <mtn> kingkong-: ok, I know nothing about vps
systems
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2562[17:57:00] <kingkong-> commands different on vps systems?
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2564[17:58:04] <FinalX> depends on the kind of vps, fully
virtualized, or not, etc.
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2565[18:00:00] <kingkong-> how can i find if fully virtualized or
not
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2704[18:54:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> Anyone running debian 8 latest?
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2705[18:55:06] <TyrfingMjolnir> Stock
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2737[19:05:55] <apus> hi, could somebody please tell me if the
most recent version of amavisd-new still has de_DE translated
templates? at least for freebsd they don't seem to be available
and i also can't find anything on the website of amavis
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2763[19:13:55] <TyrfingMjolnir> Mine says 3.16.0
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2765[19:14:31] <TyrfingMjolnir> I am now logged in to the LX zone
using zlogin
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2767[19:15:13] <TyrfingMjolnir> But the LX zone can not ping
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2768[19:15:32] <TyrfingMjolnir> SIOCSIFADDR: Cannot assign
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2771[19:17:47] <tharkun> If this message appears on a terminal
"kernel:invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP" What is the machine
trying to tell me?
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2904[20:03:45] <xok> hello all...
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2905[20:04:03] <xok> I am trying to make my LBP1120 Canon printer
work on the Debian jessie...
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replaced-url
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2923[20:07:28] <r4fbsd> how to fix issues related to mute sound
in Debian Jessie ? Tried several things
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2929[20:08:58] <Ticho> ,v claws-mail
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2930[20:08:59] <judd> Package: claws-mail on amd64 -- squeeze:
3.7.6-4+squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 3.7.6-4+squeeze2;
wheezy-security: 3.8.1-2+deb7u1; wheezy: 3.8.1-2+deb7u1;
wheezy-backports: 3.10.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie-security:
3.11.1-3+deb8u1; jessie: 3.11.1-3+deb8u1; sid: 3.13.2-1; stretch:
3.13.2-1
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2932[20:09:13] <r4fbsd> sorry, wrong channel, it is just for
discussion, not support
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2934[20:10:02] <Ticho> yeah, if I remembered the bot name,
I'd have asked in privmsg, but since there is very little
discussion ongoing at the moment, can I please have a general pardon
and move on with my life?
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2962[20:18:10] <unborn> is this official debian channel?
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2966[20:19:14] <TomTomTo1> it's on irc.oftc.net, but there
are mostly the same people.
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2974[20:21:26] <TomTomTosch> well, "official".
irc.debian.org links to oftc. it's community driven either way.
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2975[20:21:59] <xok> towo`: thanks but that page was of no
help...
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2976[20:22:11] <xok> neither driver nor instructions worked...
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2981[20:23:32] <lenswipe> hey guys - got a bit of a situation
here - wondered if someone could advise
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2982[20:23:48] <lenswipe> My graphics are a bit broken because
some updates partially installed
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2983[20:24:02] <lenswipe> The updates partially installed because
a partition ran out of space
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2985[20:24:25] <lenswipe> the obvious soultion is to resize the
partition
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2987[20:24:40] <lenswipe> the only thing is - I wondered if
someone could help me figure out:
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2988[20:24:48] <lenswipe> 1. What partition I need to resize
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2989[20:24:52] <lenswipe> 2. What to resize it to
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replaced-url
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2996[20:26:00] <lenswipe> That's the output of df -hl
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3105[20:30:27] <xok> can anyone here help me setup my Canon
LBP1120 printer on the Debian Jessie?..
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3121[20:33:06] <allamoox> Hello
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3123[20:33:21] <allamoox> when I try su username I get permission
denied how ever Im logged as root
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3127[20:33:38] <allamoox> root@sfipro:~# su allamooz
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3128[20:33:38] <allamoox> -bash: /bin/su: Permission denied
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3129[20:33:54] <allamoox> ls su -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36936 Feb
17 2014 /bin/su
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3132[20:34:16] <allamoox> Should I make it read write excute
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3133[20:34:16] <towo`> su -l allamooz
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3134[20:34:46] <towo`> but not executable seems totaly wrong
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3135[20:34:59] <blind> also no setuid bit?
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3137[20:35:09] <allamoox> towo Its something wrong with the su
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3138[20:35:14] <blind> not that it should matter as root, but it
should still be there..
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3139[20:35:15] <allamoox> I got permission denied...
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3140[20:35:30] <towo`> without executable, it's normal
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3141[20:35:41] <blind> oh.. of course.
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3142[20:35:59] <towo`> and that's not the default in debian
or linux at all
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3144[20:36:44] <allamoox> # auth required pam_wheel.so
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3145[20:36:51] <DammitJim> man, what really happens to a
folder's permissions when one mounts another file system?
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3146[20:36:56] <DammitJim> I can see that the permissions get all
changed
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3159[20:38:11] <allamoox> What do you think guys
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3160[20:38:15] <ghs> how to use driver sqlsrv in debian to pdo
php ?
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3174[20:45:20] <abrotman> ghs: a) There's ##php, b) the docs
cover it pretty well at php.net
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3179[20:47:37] <unborn> okay guys im going to try one more time
:) can anyone tell me why I cannot connect to wifi during install
but completely fine when using live dvd?
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3181[20:49:29] <towo`> the live-dvd does contain firmware?
(maybe)
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3182[20:49:45] <towo`> because "the live-dvd" does not
exist
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3199[20:56:24] <unborn> towo`: dvd cd.. iso..
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3201[20:56:42] <unborn> whatever you may call it towo`
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3265[21:27:44] <mefistofeles> hello, what's the correct way
of creating a .deb package that has a custom systemd unit?
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3266[21:27:58] <mefistofeles> if you have any tips, links on this
I'd very much appreciate it
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3267[21:28:20] <MoonGNatRouth> I've got one server VPS with
white ip and my home PC under the NAT. I can connect from homePC to
remotePC using ssh. but I also want to be able connect from remotePC
to my homePC using ssh. How can I do it, with simplest method?
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3279[21:35:03] <teraflops> MoonGNatRouth: what's white ip?
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3280[21:35:38] <greycat> MoonGNatRouth: sounds like you want an
ssh reverse tunnel (ssh -R)
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3282[21:35:44] <xar-> teraflops: an innocent IP
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3283[21:36:03] <teraflops> ^
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3287[21:36:31] <MoonGNatRouth> teraflops: white ip is not under
the nat
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3289[21:36:44] <teraflops> MoonGNatRouth: what you want is
mapping the port 22 in your router to your machine
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3291[21:36:55] <xar-> ^
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3294[21:37:21] <teraflops> MoonGNatRouth: what the fuck is a
white ip?
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3295[21:37:25] <MoonGNatRouth> teraflops: it's impossible
because of my provider
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3296[21:37:43] <xar-> LMFTFY: *what you want is to adjust your
home sshd daemon to listen on something not-22, then map that port
that you pick in your router to the destination ;)
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3297[21:38:09] <greycat> teraflops: some weird phrase he made up
to mean "a publically routable IP address" or in other
words "an IP".
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3298[21:38:38] <MoonGNatRouth> teraflops, "white ip" -
is ip not under the nat. from
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3299[21:38:51] <xar-> can we just stop making terminology up,
when we already have good terminology lol
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