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• 2[00:01:12] <hjek> xsel works from terminal within X. without X, then, redirect output to a file perhaps?
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• 7[00:04:36] <armin> Masterphi: <command> | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' replaced-url
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• 13[00:07:05] <Masterphi> replaced-url
• 14[00:07:09] <Masterphi> that worked
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• 16[00:08:28] <Masterphi> i got it
• 17[00:08:37] <Masterphi> just removed that line with without-password
• 18[00:08:48] <Masterphi> just PermitRootLogin yes
• 19[00:08:51] <Masterphi> duh
• 20[00:08:56] <Masterphi> I can't believe it
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• 24[00:11:14] <Masterphi> thanks guys :)
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• 42[00:21:29] <hicks__> :)
• 43[00:23:23] <wjtaylor_> I can launch archive manager from gnome3 but everything is greyed out? Is this a bug?
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• 104[01:18:05] <careta> is there a way to log all commands done with sudo?
• 105[01:18:32] <dondelelcaro> careta: by default they are logged
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• 107[01:18:48] <careta> dondelelcaro, I mean the commands content
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• 110[01:19:21] <dondelelcaro> careta: you mean the output of the command?
• 111[01:19:25] <careta> ah wait nevermind, got it
• 112[01:19:31] <careta> it's in the auth log
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• 124[01:28:15] <rigel> migrating back to debian from ubuntu and mint, trying to set up stretch on an LVM partition on a headless server, networking is causing problems because ifup does not recognize the supposedly-predictable-interface-names
• 125[01:29:46] <rigel> the debian networking page still retains lots of eth0 stuff but ifup complains it cant find either enp2s0 or eth0. is there a way to bring up the interface via the CLI that does not use ifup? not so experienced with the "ip" command suite
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• 127[01:31:27] <petemc> does ifconfig -a confirm those names?
• 128[01:31:41] <rigel> i do not have ifconfig, just ip
• 129[01:31:46] <petemc> ip a
• 130[01:32:11] <rigel> yes, enp2s0 shows up in ip addr
• 131[01:32:30] <jmcnaught> iproute2 cheat-sheet in the release notes: replaced-url
• 132[01:33:28] <petemc> rigel: did you configure the interfaces?
• 133[01:34:21] <rigel> no, because it says in the default /etc/network/interfaces that it uses ifup and ifdown
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• 135[01:34:34] <rigel> which are not finding enp2s0
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• 139[01:34:44] <petemc> it says what?
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• 142[01:35:29] <rigel> first line is "# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)"
• 143[01:35:35] <petemc> right
• 144[01:35:54] <rigel> and ifup is not finding the interface regardless of the naming convention i use
• 145[01:36:15] <petemc> because it looks in /etc/network/interfaces
• 146[01:36:36] <jmcnaught> rigel: do you have a stanza for enp2s0 in your interfaces file?
• 147[01:37:01] <rigel> i will add one now, and try it again
• 148[01:37:37] <rigel> i had been configuring it in a chroot environment and wasnt sure what the "predictable" name would be
• 149[01:39:03] <jmcnaught> ifup/ifdown don't know about interfaces that aren't defined in /etc/network/interfaces
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• 154[01:41:32] <rigel> oic. this is my first time trying to install things this way, typically i just use the default installer.
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• 166[01:55:39] <rigel> that fixed the proximal problem, so thanks. now to figure out what error triggered mounting root ro
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• 174[01:59:33] <rigel> .....and this is apparently related to the LVM, since 'mount -o rw,remount /' says it cant find the drive by UUID, though its clearly mounted the right LVM partition
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• 178[02:00:20] <rigel> ...which is specified by UUID in the grub configuration
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• 192[02:05:28] <rigel> ...which apparently comes down to the fact that LV UUIDs and FS UUIDs are different!
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• 197[02:09:46] <doogaille> Hi
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• 201[02:11:42] <doogaille> If you know the name of creator of this f**** PrivateTmp option in systemd... I need to send him an email to thank. He make my day
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• 205[02:12:41] <dvs> doogaille, well, he probably isn't in this channel
• 206[02:13:12] <doogaille> I know ;-)
• 207[02:13:59] <doogaille> 2 hours to discover why I doesn't have access to a socket in PHP
• 208[02:14:24] <doogaille> systemd was really not a good option in the futur of debian...
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• 210[02:15:37] <jmcnaught> doogaille: oh you're being facetious… this really isn't the place to gripe about systemd or anything else really. Now you know about this feature of systemd, and you can use it when you need something like that. Otherwise move on.
• 211[02:15:42] <doogaille> I've start a new blog to document that ;-)
• 212[02:16:32] <dvs> Wait, I might want to know about this. How do I enable sockets in PHP now?
• 213[02:16:59] <doogaille> the problem was not for activate socket
• 214[02:17:07] <johnkeates> you will need systemd-phpd probably :D
• 215[02:17:10] <doogaille> you just need to add sockets.so
• 216[02:17:14] <doogaille> mdrr
• 217[02:17:17] <dvs> ah
• 218[02:17:26] <doogaille> but for unknow idea
• 219[02:17:44] <doogaille> systemd start apache with a personnal /tmp acces
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• 221[02:17:59] <inahd> umm hello debian.
• 222[02:18:17] <johnkeates> !hello
• 223[02:18:17] <dpkg> Hi, johnkeates!
• 224[02:18:42] <doogaille> you need to add PrivateTmp=false into apache2-systemd.con
• 225[02:18:47] <doogaille> +f
• 226[02:18:57] <johnkeates> or you need to not steal someone else's temp? :p
• 227[02:19:09] <inahd> tried to intall debian jr (i think) on this weird tinkerOS (debian based). nothing happened
• 228[02:19:12] <dvs> what does that have to do with sockets?
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• 230[02:19:25] <doogaille> I have MPV
• 231[02:19:27] <inahd> i'm not sure i understand how it works
• 232[02:19:31] <johnkeates> !debian-like
• 233[02:19:31] <likcoras> !based on debian
• 234[02:19:41] <johnkeates> that^
• 235[02:19:55] <doogaille> running under an user account and have an IPC socket in /tmp/ directory
• 236[02:20:04] <likcoras> !based on debian
• 237[02:20:04] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
• 238[02:20:07] <likcoras> there we go.
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• 240[02:20:21] <inahd> yeahh
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• 243[02:20:58] <inahd> i was hoping to understand pure blends in general. are they something that is normally installed through a package manager?
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• 245[02:21:07] <johnkeates> not that i know of
• 246[02:21:14] <johnkeates> they have their own distro base
• 247[02:21:21] <inahd> hmmm ok
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• 249[02:21:36] <johnkeates> i'd suggest using 'normal' debian unless you really need one of those modded things
• 250[02:21:47] <johnkeates> but if you do need them, we don't really know now to help
• 251[02:22:00] <inahd> well, i wanted an easy set up for a child's machine
• 252[02:22:18] <inahd> thats fair
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• 254[02:23:12] <jmcnaught> doogaille: why not put sockets in /var/run with all the others?
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• 256[02:23:32] <dvs> thAT'S What I'm thinking
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• 258[02:25:15] <johnkeates> pure blends are usually installed and distributed separately form debian
• 259[02:25:21] <johnkeates> they probably have their own sites etc.
• 260[02:25:46] <likcoras> !blends
• 261[02:25:46] <dpkg> A Debian Pure Blend (formerly Custom Debian Distribution) is a subset of Debian configured to support a particular target group out-of-the-box. Not to be confused with distributions <based on Debian>. replaced-url
• 262[02:26:08] <likcoras> I'd try asking in that channel, I guess.
• 263[02:26:26] <inahd> ak
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• 265[02:27:27] <inahd> i couldn't really find any easy to understand information from the webpage
• 266[02:27:29] <inahd> s
• 267[02:27:33] <likcoras> But tinkerOS is /not debian/
• 268[02:27:34] <johnkeates> so far, it seems the Jr version doesn't have a modified live CD, and i can't seem to quickly find the intaller images either, news seems to have tapered off since 2003
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• 270[02:27:44] <johnkeates> also that^
• 271[02:27:45] <inahd> ohh
• 272[02:27:55] <inahd> tinkerOS is garbage
• 273[02:28:01] <johnkeates> i'm afraid development on it has been less-than-ideal
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• 275[02:28:09] <inahd> this tinker board was a waste of $60
• 276[02:28:19] <johnkeates> your best bet might be something like chromeOS or boot-to-chromium
• 277[02:28:24] <likcoras> Debian is an os on its own, debianjr is like a easy prepackaged version of it, I'd guess.
• 278[02:28:25] <doogaille> jmcnaught: because my php script was accessible over internet, I doesnt have sensible data in /tmp and dont want expose /var/run to a potential risk of hacking ?
• 279[02:28:50] <johnkeates> blends are pretty much a modded base
• 280[02:28:59] <johnkeates> like, a default install with nonstandard default settings
• 281[02:29:13] <inahd> i didn't realize that debian jr was abandoned basically
• 282[02:29:44] <inahd> i see debian edu, but that seems way different
• 283[02:29:47] <johnkeates> but since they are pure blends, what's different between Debian and say, Debian Jr would be mostly configuration and metadata, while the packages are (afaik) identical and possibly from the same repo as 'normal' debian
• 284[02:29:59] <jmcnaught> doogaille: something sounds wrong there. Both /tmp and /var/run should never be accessible to the public.
• 285[02:30:02] <inahd> ok thats good to know
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• 287[02:30:30] <johnkeates> the /tmp should be accessible to the public, but programs and users that dump file there are allowed to not allow others to read it
• 288[02:30:47] <johnkeates> but /var/run and /var/cache might have different rules, check the FHS
• 289[02:30:52] <doogaille> jmcnaught: it is not directly accessible
• 290[02:31:05] <doogaille> only my script have acces to /tmp dir
• 291[02:31:12] <johnkeates> inahd: what is your aim: to have a kid tinker or to have a cheap computer with a desktop experience
• 292[02:31:19] <doogaille> (added in openbase_dir directive of php.ini)
• 293[02:31:34] <johnkeates> tinker: get something like what the Pi uses (go to the raspbian channel for help)
• 294[02:31:55] <johnkeates> desktop: maybe find chromiumOS (free ChromeOS)
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• 297[02:32:16] <johnkeates> Debian itself works well enough but it depends on the user if it's suitable
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• 299[02:32:41] <johnkeates> which in the age of the smart telephone might mean that for younger users, anything 'desktop'-ish isn't suitable anymore
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• 302[02:35:58] <jmcnaught> doogaille: I don't know what you're trying to accomplish but using /tmp for IPC doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Maybe you should check out using php7.0-fpm with apache2 as an alternative to libapache2-mod-php, it will give you greater flexibility for running PHP as a different user than replaced-url
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• 320[02:55:27] <krainier> Hello
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• 322[02:56:04] <krainier> I have a headless server, armv5TE architecture I'd like to install debian on.
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• 325[02:57:23] <doogaille> jmcnaught: yep I think php-fpm is a better idea too
• 326[02:57:29] <krainier> The only input on it is ethernet, so I thought it my be easier to pull the HDD and install from an x64 windows machine, but is this possible across architectures? And can I configure persistent ssh from a differen arch?
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• 341[03:07:32] <aloo_shu> x
• 342[03:07:51] <dvs> y?
• 343[03:08:15] <aloo_shu> sort of
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• 345[03:08:44] <aloo_shu> my irc client fails to scroll to bottom unless I post
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• 347[03:09:37] <dvs> That's why I don't use console clients. ;-)
• 348[03:09:58] <n_blownapart> the horror, I upgraded to stretch, and the fonts in my bash terminal have changed slightly. I had it set to Monospace Bold 14 .. It looks a bit 'crowded' and obscured. any experience with that?
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• 350[03:10:29] <n_blownapart> it looks like a slightly different font
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• 352[03:11:27] <likcoras> Which terminal are you using?
• 353[03:11:46] <aloo_shu> dvs, no, no, mine is atomic , for android. console would take 'end' button, this one doesn't
• 354[03:11:57] <n_blownapart> it looks taller. bash
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• 360[03:14:03] <likcoras> n_blownapart: nono, bash is the shell. the terminal. eg. gnome terminal, konsole, etc.
• 361[03:14:33] <n_blownapart> sorry yeah gnome likcoras
• 362[03:15:01] <likcoras> Can't you change the font in the gnome settings?
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• 364[03:16:13] <n_blownapart> I went into terminal preferences. the same font was set to as I remembered having it before the upgrade.. strange, like it changed
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• 366[03:16:45] <n_blownapart> I fiddled with it. it's taller. this is on a 32bit laptop
• 367[03:16:56] <Shmam> How do I change settings with libinput trackpad drivers? Is there an easy GUI that can help me do this? I really want to change double click delays and things like that but they are greyed out in KDE because I have libinput drivers, not synaptics. From what I understand, the world is moving to libinput but it seems unfinished/unpolished...
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• 398[03:33:41] <Shmam> How do I install libinput on Debian? From what I understand, it should come with KDE but when I run "libinput" it says command not found.
• 399[03:36:52] <dvs> ,v libinput-bin
• 400[03:36:53] <judd> Package: libinput-bin on amd64 -- stretch: 1.6.3-1; buster: 1.8.0-1; sid: 1.8.0-1
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• 414[03:42:05] <craigmel2017> hi
• 415[03:42:53] <craigmel2017> can anyone help me download the correct file to do a install on my 64 bit computer of debian
• 416[03:43:31] <craigmel2017> ubuntu is straight forward why cant debian be the same way
• 417[03:44:15] <jmcnaught> craigmel2017: amd64 netinst is what you want. Is this a laptop that will be using wifi during installation?
• 418[03:44:59] <craigmel2017> no its a hp z600 workstation desktop with 2tb harddrive and 24 gb of ram
• 419[03:45:10] <craigmel2017> thanks for ur help
• 420[03:45:22] <craigmel2017> i was getting pissed
• 421[03:46:26] <craigmel2017> i was gonna put it on a usb drive so i cud install anytime
• 422[03:46:57] <jmcnaught> craigmel2017: no problem. I recommend reading the install manual: replaced-url
• 423[03:47:20] <toruvinn> craigmel2017, it's because debian install comes in a few more flavours. you get cd images with the base system and some often used packages on them, then you get dvds with the base system and a lot of packages of them, then you get the netinst that is basically just basesystem and it assumes you can setup your network to download the rest (this way you wont have to download a lot of data you probably wont use).
• 424[03:47:36] <toruvinn> then there's most likely more... also the fact that firmware is nonfree doesnt help either. ;-)
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• 427[03:48:21] <toruvinn> craigmel2017, those large cd images and larger dvd images are useful if you want to download them at work for example, come back home where you have no internet access and still install a healthy number of software packages.
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• 430[03:48:43] <craigmel2017> ive never gotten so pissed
• 431[03:48:50] <toruvinn> ("no internet access" <- or just cell phone access where every megabyte counts)
• 432[03:49:13] <craigmel2017> oh im good i have spectrum cable internet
• 433[03:49:32] <toruvinn> craigmel2017, then netinst, as jmcnaught pointed out, is probably the way to go. :-)
• 434[03:49:49] <craigmel2017> ok thanks so much
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• 440[03:55:08] <craigmel2017> can i put it on usb flashdrive and try it live first?
• 441[03:56:22] <jmcnaught> craigmel2017: there are separate live images, but they do not get as much testing as the installer images do so installer images are recommended for installing
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• 447[03:57:30] <craigmel2017> i didnt know if i could try it out first
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• 464[04:06:26] <eventhorizon> Installer images are here, if you want to try out Debian first: replaced-url
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• 470[04:10:34] <ryouma> what is the difference between debian live cd and the rescue part of the netinst?
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• 479[04:14:09] <toruvinn> ryouma, i'd guess that the live system comes with many more available (installed) packages, such as... it runs X, etc. probably not the case with netinst as that one is quite limited.
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• 484[04:18:34] <eventhorizon> There's live CD images for each of the popular desktop interfaces. They run X (graphical) similar to the Ubuntu live CD's
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• 499[04:29:11] <gnex267> any exploit for win 7
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• 502[04:30:19] <fsck> whore
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• 504[04:32:34] <jak2000> how to print a text to a com1? thanks (i have connected a printer to com1
• 505[04:34:04] <petn-randall> jak2000: It's highly unlikely that your printer speaks plain text. You should use CUPS to configure your printer.
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• 507[04:35:27] <Artemis3> petn-randall, if the printer has a serial port to begin with, it probably can. but of course cups can do it too.
• 508[04:36:40] <Artemis3> its probably matching port parameters and lpr your way
• 509[04:37:11] <petn-randall> Artemis3: AFAIK even the serial printers still speak ESC/P.
• 510[04:37:34] <Artemis3> AND can take plain serial
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• 512[04:38:17] <Artemis3> the ESC commands would allow you prettier output tho
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• 520[04:46:38] <petn-randall> Ah, no idea then. I'll trust what you said.
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• 547[05:00:39] <ebernhardson> how can i get a decompressed kernel source (decompressed with dpkg-source -x foo.dsc) to build the linux-source-....deb package?
• 548[05:00:54] <ebernhardson> preferably without having to build everything else
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• 550[05:02:18] <ebernhardson> i've got `debian/rules binary-indep` running right now, but it seems it wants to build all kinds of stuff and not sure its going to make the linux-source package
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• 572[05:18:43] <imnewhere> I'm curious, is it normal for some packages to make new users during install?
• 573[05:18:55] <petn-randall> imnewhere: Sure.
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• 576[05:19:15] <petn-randall> imnewhere: You don't want apache to run as root, it'll run as replaced-url
• 577[05:20:31] <imnewhere> it was stunnel4, hadn't seen that yet.
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• 583[05:23:05] <petn-randall> imnewhere: Most daemons create dedicated users for running the daemon.
• 584[05:25:09] <imnewhere> Thank you!
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• 622[05:52:52] <cujotus> hello
• 623[05:53:04] <cujotus> how are you?
• 624[05:53:14] <cujotus> Im thinking pizza :)
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• 626[05:54:33] <somiaj> !chat
• 627[05:54:33] <dpkg> This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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• 697[06:58:30] <marbar> hello all. i'm running standard chromium 60 from the repos, and i noticed that the MediaSource has seemed to drop support for vp9.
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• 700[06:59:02] <marbar> meaning MediaSource.isTypeSupported('video/webm; codecs="vp9"') returns false
• 701[06:59:30] <marbar> i have libvpx4 1.6.1-3
• 702[06:59:49] <marbar> is this the case for anyone else?
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• 712[07:07:00] <marbar> hey debian_
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• 714[07:07:16] <debian_> hey marbar
• 715[07:07:21] <marbar> debian_, i'm sort of sad
• 716[07:07:36] <marbar> because chromium's mediasource stopped supporting vp9
• 717[07:07:38] <marbar> at least for me :(
• 718[07:07:51] <marbar> MediaSource.isTypeSupported('video/webm; codecs="vp9"') returns false
• 719[07:07:53] <debian_> because?
• 720[07:07:53] <marbar> but not so in chrome
• 721[07:08:06] <marbar> i'm not sure why
• 722[07:08:23] <marbar> someone told me that i might have to make sure i have libvpx4
• 723[07:08:25] <marbar> and i do :'(
• 724[07:08:52] <marbar> is anyone else saddened by this?
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• 726[07:09:15] <marbar> debian_, is your chromium also refusing to cooperate in this regard?
• 727[07:09:20] <debian_> Do you have chromium installed?
• 728[07:09:29] <marbar> hahaha yes.
• 729[07:09:41] <marbar> latest from the repos, 60
• 730[07:09:47] <marbar> do you?
• 731[07:10:12] <debian_> replaced-url
• 732[07:10:39] <marbar> i have 1.6.1-3
• 733[07:10:43] <debian_> Is in the official repository this lib
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• 735[07:11:45] <marbar> i have that package. is it possible that chromium just doesn't know about it?
• 736[07:11:51] <marbar> or has vp9 switched off somehow?
• 737[07:11:55] <marbar> it's only off for mediasource btw
• 738[07:12:06] <marbar> MediaRecorder.isTypeSupported(...) returns true
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• 741[07:14:08] <marbar> i haven't seen any evidence of anyone else having this problem on the old interwebs
• 742[07:14:21] <marbar> i hope it's not a "just me" kind of thing
• 743[07:15:00] <debian_> Can there be a break of lib no?
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• 745[07:15:23] <marbar> debian_, what do you mean?
• 746[07:15:45] <debian_> I do not have this problem here.
• 747[07:15:57] <marbar> i see, works for you? hm. :(
• 748[07:16:36] <debian_> yes, work for me
• 749[07:16:36] <marbar> you have same versions i do? chromium 60.0.3112.78-1~deb9u1
• 750[07:16:54] <debian_> yes
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• 754[07:17:18] <marbar> ok. well i guess i'll just use chrome for this sort of thing.
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• 756[07:18:07] <debian_> test firefox or other browsers
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• 759[07:20:14] <marbar> well chrome works fine in that respect. iceweasel (firefox) does too.
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• 761[07:20:36] <marbar> i'm hoping this is just a charming chromium quirk that will be smoothed out in a version or two
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• 763[07:21:15] <debian_> Yes, this can be a bug.
• 764[07:22:23] <marbar> i wish it were reproducible for anyone else :-\
• 765[07:22:34] <marbar> you guys must all think i'm making it up
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• 768[07:23:02] <marbar> you know, when people read message boards all night, just for attention
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• 772[07:26:09] <debian_> Well, I'll come back another time and sleep now. See you later.
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• 774[07:26:22] <marbar> later debian_ !
• 775[07:26:26] <marbar> thanks for chatting dude!
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• 782[07:28:44] <juanc2> Buenas.
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• 785[07:29:55] <jmcnaught> !es
• 786[07:29:55] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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• 817[07:59:33] <Kurogane> Hi, i've a problem with starting jornal and i'm not sure how to fix it. replaced-url
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• 826[08:02:06] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: is dbus running?
• 827[08:02:52] <Kurogane> not sure, how to check?
• 828[08:03:23] <jmcnaught> 'systemctl status dbus'
• 829[08:03:50] <Kurogane> yes replaced-url
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• 834[08:05:54] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: have you changed anything from the default journald setup?
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• 836[08:06:29] <Kurogane> not i'm aware. only do update
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• 841[08:10:43] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: was the hostname changed? Is there a persistent journal directory (/var/log/journal/)?
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• 846[08:13:03] <Kurogane> jmcnaught, i don't think so, i not have any folder call jornal. If i change the hostname what i need to do if that cause the issue
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• 850[08:16:10] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: if there is no persistent journal then rebooting will probably work. if you changed the hostname you could try asking hostnamectl what it thinks the hostname is
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• 856[08:21:08] <Kurogane> jmanfatty, i will reboot, anyways i have diferent hostname only one say Static hostname and Transient hostname. The correct is the Transient hostname
• 857[08:22:04] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: maybe changing hostnames frequently isn't the best strategy
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• 860[08:22:47] <Kurogane> still, rebooting not work
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• 864[08:24:40] <Kurogane> this is what i have when rebooting replaced-url
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• 867[08:28:40] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: what all happened to the system before journald stopped working? you changed hostnames? did /var/log/journal exist previously, but you deleted it? Can you make a paste of 'systemd-delta' along with any files mentioned by this command related to journald, dbus or other systemd services
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• 872[08:31:29] <Kurogane> this is a clean install debian 9, i can't answer you if journal folder exist previously
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• 877[08:34:02] <locrian9> Is there some steps to troubleshoot why my smb share in Debian isn't coming up when I 'run' //10.0.0.10 on my windows 7 machine? Here's the /etc/samba/smb.conf file replaced-url
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• 882[08:36:03] <locrian9> I've checked the 'service smbd status' and it's showing 'active (running)'.
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• 885[08:36:35] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: in your paste systemd-tmpfiles fails to replace specifiers %m, which is machine ID. Something you've done seems to have confused the system about its machine id, possibly related to weird changing of hostnames. Read "man machine-id' about it
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• 891[08:38:57] <Kurogane> jmcnaught, replaced-url
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• 893[08:40:01] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: thanks, those are all standard overrides on Debian. Look into the machine-id.
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• 900[08:45:10] <Kurogane> jmanfatty, i already do systemd-machine-id-setup rebooted and still the issue. What i suspose i need to look in the man?
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• 904[08:47:30] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: whoever ^^ is might not appreciate being highlighted multiple times
• 905[08:47:56] <jmcnaught> anything else you can tell us about changes to the system after it was installed?
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• 907[08:49:51] <Kurogane> Well, all i do is. Debian 8 to debian 9. I did all updates upgrades dis-upgrade before to migrate to debian 9 and i did the same with the 9 updates upgrades dis-upgrade etc.
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• 910[08:51:54] <jmcnaught> and something about changing hostnames? is this a VPS?
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• 918[08:57:01] <netvor> I got `DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck` somewhere but it does not work; the test still runs
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• 934[09:14:28] <Kurogane> jmcnaught, no. i not change anything about hostname what i setup initial is what i remember but if i did what should be a issue? changing hostname is normal. Its not i change everytime just why not?
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• 937[09:19:13] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: I'm only bringing up hostname because I saw that it was localhost and then you said something about 'i have diferent hostname only one say Static hostname and Transient hostname' and I don't know what that means
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• 943[09:23:39] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: other things I would check are if the filesystem is full, if the kernel is the correct version for stretch (4.9)… if this is a VPS or some kind of VM image that you keep cloning then that could be relevant
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• 1002[10:14:55] <rhaal> yo!
• 1003[10:15:01] <rhaal> .seen MotoChooch
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• 1007[10:15:27] <bazhang> rhaal, what are you looking for
• 1008[10:15:33] <rhaal> Oh, sorry, wrong channel!
• 1009[10:15:40] <bazhang> hah
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• 1013[10:16:30] <rhaal> bazhang, a person from Snoonet.motorcycles. The fact that I asked in freenode.debian says a lot
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• 1097[11:09:54] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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• 1403[15:01:47] <nix64bit> I have had to stop using firefox esr its killing my memory - It is current/updated - is there any way to go back and check logs after my desktop (debian stretch) crashed?
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• 1412[15:07:47] <BluesKaj> nix64bit, /var/log/syslog
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• 1429[15:16:55] <gurdisbedi> so this is the second time I am having this problem.
• 1430[15:17:39] <gurdisbedi> the error is ...`superblock checksum not be read or does not describe a valid ext2/ext3/ext4 filesystem
• 1431[15:17:48] <gurdisbedi> the the debian OS is not booting
• 1432[15:18:35] <gurdisbedi> any idea abot this problem.....? This mostly occurs when I boot into windows and then back to debian..(i have dual boot)
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• 1435[15:20:42] <gurdisbedi> anyone ?
• 1436[15:20:49] <gurdisbedi> with a solution?
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• 1440[15:23:11] <fearnothing> hi, is anyone in here experienced with libvirtd? I need some help figuring out why it's ignoring socket settings in /etc/libvirt/libvirtd.conf
• 1441[15:23:35] <jelly> gurdisbedi: do you have any drivers for ext2/ext3/ext4 installed in windows? Sounds like something is corrupting the linux filesystem when it's not running
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• 1444[15:25:15] <gurdisbedi> what sort of drivers? jelly
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• 1446[15:26:04] <jelly> gurdisbedi: something like third party utility that might let you mount under windows
• 1447[15:26:33] <gurdisbedi> noh i dont
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• 1450[15:29:02] <gurdisbedi> what to do then ? jelly
• 1451[15:29:09] <gurdisbedi> jelly: ?
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• 1455[15:31:54] <jelly> no idea how to proceed from there
• 1456[15:32:57] <jelly> gurdisbedi: might there be something in place to make windows think it should touch the linux partition(s)? does this system use legacy or uefi firmware to boot?
• 1457[15:33:09] <gurdisbedi> legacy
• 1458[15:33:22] <gurdisbedi> old pc... uefi is not there
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• 1460[15:33:43] <jelly> which windows release
• 1461[15:33:51] <gurdisbedi> windows 10
• 1462[15:34:06] <gurdisbedi> the thing is
• 1463[15:34:26] <gurdisbedi> the error is on a swap parition
• 1464[15:34:28] <jelly> can you boot a live linux image and dump the partition table, "sfdisk -d /dev/sda"
• 1465[15:34:29] <gurdisbedi> *partition
• 1466[15:34:58] <gurdisbedi> sfdisk command not found
• 1467[15:35:11] <gurdisbedi> BusyBox is running
• 1468[15:35:17] <jelly> which live image is this
• 1469[15:35:43] <gurdisbedi> live image ? I have installed debian 9.1
• 1470[15:36:12] <jelly> can you boot some live linux _instead_ and dump the partition table, "sfdisk -d /dev/sda"
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• 1472[15:36:58] <jelly> like a livecd or liveusb, rescue system, designed to run in ram off a usb stick or cd/dvd
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• 1474[15:37:38] <gurdisbedi> i dont have such ... But I have a old ubuntu disk
• 1475[15:37:45] <gurdisbedi> will that do the job?
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• 1477[15:37:58] <jelly> that's fine too. Before that, what does "cat /proc/cmdline" say
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• 1485[15:41:05] <gurdisbedi> it gives a BOOT_IMAGE value
• 1486[15:41:15] <gurdisbedi> with a UUID
• 1487[15:41:16] <jelly> show the exact, complete output, please
• 1488[15:41:24] <gurdisbedi> okay
• 1489[15:41:56] <fearnothing> mm, maybe I need to compile it with the --with-qemu-group option...
• 1490[15:42:33] <gurdisbedi> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-686pae root=UUID=2a77e5b4-c666-45b8-8794-be98f2e17ec ro quiet
• 1491[15:42:43] <gurdisbedi> jelly: this is the exact
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• 1498[15:43:51] <gurdisbedi> jelly: found anythin useful?
• 1499[15:44:13] <jelly> gurdisbedi: now, look at ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
• 1500[15:44:26] <jelly> is there any partition with that uuid
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• 1502[15:44:55] <gurdisbedi> yes there is
• 1503[15:45:05] <jelly> (the one used for root=)
• 1504[15:45:21] <gurdisbedi> yes it is there
• 1505[15:45:39] <gurdisbedi> it the same /dev/sda5 which is said to be corrupted
• 1506[15:45:42] <jelly> and is it the same partition the boot process complains about?
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• 1508[15:46:10] <gurdisbedi> yes , the boot process is complaining about this partition
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• 1511[15:46:36] <jelly> okay, maybe you got wrong root= boot parameter set up for some reason
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• 1514[15:46:57] <jelly> is there a "lsblk" or "blkid" command in busybox
• 1515[15:46:58] <gurdisbedi> how to change then?
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• 1517[15:47:19] <gurdisbedi> nope none of both
• 1518[15:47:33] <jelly> you want to figure out which partition really contains your linux / filesystem, and if it's really corrupted or not
• 1519[15:47:37] <gurdisbedi> but there is `blkid`
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• 1521[15:48:33] <jelly> can you make a snapshot of the screen showing blkid output, and upload it someplace like imgur.com or picpaste.com
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• 1523[15:48:44] <gurdisbedi> okay wait 1 min
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• 1531[15:50:06] <forcerecon> I have a pc that has dropbox installed.. it was fine when it was here at my place, but I moved it to a remote location - running debian.. I then uninstalled it because I did not need it any more.. However, whenever I do a update I keep getting information stating that the linux repository for dropbox file are no longer there or cannot be downloaded, etc.. if you need exact errors I will get them for you
• 1532[15:50:13] <forcerecon> anyone else having any issues with dropbox installation on debian at this time?
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• 1535[15:51:04] <forcerecon> what is odd is that it is referring to jessie when I have stretch installed from scratch
• 1536[15:51:10] <fearnothing> nope, that didn't work
• 1537[15:51:12] <fearnothing> damn
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• 1539[15:51:30] <jelly> forcerecon: you could just remove the repos from apt config if you did not need them any more. Probably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
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• 1542[15:52:58] <gurdisbedi> jelly: image url is .... imgur.com/gallery/D5gzd
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• 1545[15:53:05] <forcerecon> replaced-url
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• 1548[15:54:29] <gurdisbedi> jelly: did you get it man?
• 1549[15:54:55] <fearnothing> ok, found part of the problem, it is not reading the config file /etc/libvirt/libvirtd.conf, it is just rolling default config options
• 1550[15:55:20] <fearnothing> if I manually run it with -f /etc/libvirt/libvirtd.conf, it creates the files with correct permissions
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• 1554[15:59:17] <forcerecon> jelly: yup that fixed it.. thanks..
• 1555[15:59:20] <forcerecon> appreciate your help
• 1556[15:59:23] <forcerecon> have a great day
• 1557[15:59:33] <gurdisbedi> jelly: man are you there ?
• 1558[16:00:18] <jelly> gurdisbedi: busy atm
• 1559[16:00:27] <gurdisbedi> okay.
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• 1561[16:01:14] <jelly> it look like /dev/sda5 is, in fact, a linux filesystem, and you have a partition reserved for swap on /dev/sda6
• 1562[16:01:22] <fearnothing> but if I update the unit file with that option, do systemctl daemon-reload and then restart the service, it does not do anything
• 1563[16:01:31] <fearnothing> argh
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• 1565[16:01:37] <fearnothing> whyyyyy systemd why
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• 1567[16:02:00] <gurdisbedi> sda5 is a / and sda7 should be /home
• 1568[16:02:30] <jelly> gurdisbedi: find a recent dvd/live image, and see if you can access the data on /dev/sda5; you may have to check and repair consistency with fsck -- this is why it's supposed to be a recent image, like not older than say 2014
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• 1573[16:03:51] <gurdisbedi> hey if I go for fresh installation will keep /home directory safe?
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• 1575[16:04:27] <jelly> you don't have to touch the existing /dev/sda7 and can reuse it, I guess
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• 1578[16:04:59] <jelly> but now knowing the cause, it might be best to get a second disk and install linux there
• 1579[16:05:06] <jelly> not* knowing
• 1580[16:05:25] <gurdisbedi> okay man... thanks for the help there.
• 1581[16:05:31] <gurdisbedi> have a nice day .
• 1582[16:05:33] <password8> hi there
• 1583[16:05:48] <gurdisbedi> see you ... bye ...
• 1584[16:06:01] <password8> what command can i use on my debian server ( 3.2.0) to change its wifi settings
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• 1593[16:10:16] <password8> i cant remember how i did it last time
• 1594[16:11:34] <password8> is it possible to x-forward the network utility of gnome?
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• 1596[16:11:47] <password8> hmm i think my server is running gnome
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• 1618[16:25:05] <dacav> Hello :) Is there a firewall person I can consult for a brief question?
• 1619[16:25:45] <tw> just ask, if someone knows, they will say.
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• 1622[16:26:41] <dacav> It's about a nf_conntrack_ftp. I'm trying to make a firewall rule for passive FTP. The firewall apparently doesn't get as RELATED the incoming data connection
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• 1626[16:28:07] <dacav> replaced-url
• 1627[16:28:17] <dacav> I'm also loading the `nf_conntrack_ftp` module
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• 1630[16:29:04] <dacav> I can see that the inbound FTP data connection gets captured by the `-A INPUT -j DROP` rule
• 1631[16:29:31] <dacav> If I'm removing the `-A INPUT -J DROP` rule it works just fine
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• 1633[16:29:58] <dacav> so my guess is that the nf_conntrack_ftp module fails to mark it as related
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• 1636[16:30:52] <dacav> Is there under debian some special flag? I think I read somewhere about some additional flag for /proc/sys/net/netfilter
• 1637[16:31:02] <dacav> but I'm not sure of this
• 1638[16:31:22] <tw> is it ftps?
• 1639[16:31:29] <dacav> nope, regular anon ftp
• 1640[16:31:40] <dacav> with ftps I expect it to fail because of encryption
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• 1643[16:33:47] <Bafford> Hello, I have a question about samba. I created a public read/write, guest allowed fileshare on one of my computers. When I write to that share with another computer, files will be set to the owner "nobody". However I cannot access these files as my main user on the host, even though I own the shared folder. How can I set it up in a way that it's R/W for everyone including my main user, without having to root chown everytime?
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• 1655[16:41:32] <johnkeates> the problem is with the umask
• 1656[16:41:48] <yonder> get weather forcast printed to your term with slight ascii art --> curl -s wttr.in/enter_city_here | head -n 37
• 1657[16:41:50] <johnkeates> permissions aren't just owner/group but also rwx bits for owner/group/everyone
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• 1661[16:44:04] <Bafford> @johnkeates So do I have to set samba to write files as accessible for everyone?
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• 1663[16:44:24] <johnkeates> if you want everyone to be able to read it: yes
• 1664[16:44:40] <johnkeates> windows doesn't allow others to read it by default
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• 1670[16:47:23] <Bafford> @johnkeates I want everyone to be able to have full file access over the share. Can you give me any info about how to set up the share in that way?
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• 1672[16:47:40] <johnkeates> set everything to 777
• 1673[16:47:58] <johnkeates> problem is of course that everyone (including malware) will be able to do everything
• 1674[16:48:23] <Bafford> I am aware of that issue
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• 1681[16:50:33] <johnkeates> this lists both the default masks and the override masks: replaced-url
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• 1688[16:52:41] <Bafford> thanks for the info
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• 1691[16:53:46] <dacav> …also the weather prediction is …well… wrong. But cool story for the ascii art
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• 1722[17:11:14] <gurditsbedi> jelly: are you there man?
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• 1724[17:11:39] <gurditsbedi> I believe I have found that why such a problem is occuring.............
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• 1809[17:48:43] <Xenogenesis> hey where can i find out the source of a key that's showing by apt?
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• 1811[17:49:07] <Xenogenesis> i can't find this key on any major keyservers
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• 1814[17:50:35] <BobBarker> linux-headers-4.11.0-2-amd64 is broken because it depends on a +b1 version of -common that doesn't actually exist
• 1815[17:50:51] <BobBarker> and my nvidia drivers are broken and I very much dislike troubleshooting with w3m
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• 1817[17:51:14] <petn-randall> Xenogenesis: What kind of error are you getting?
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• 1823[17:52:28] <BluesKaj> BobBarker, I couldn't use the 4.11 kernel because soem legacy nvidia gpus like mine aren't supported by a kernel module...yet
• 1824[17:52:47] <BobBarker> well I don't even have the headers to the kernel to even try
• 1825[17:52:49] <BluesKaj> dkms couldn't build it
• 1826[17:53:39] <BluesKaj> BobBarker, which nvidia gpu?
• 1827[17:53:39] <Xenogenesis> petn-randall, if i update it cant find the public key. I tried to add the public key but it's not on the keyserver
• 1828[17:53:47] <petn-randall> !bat
• 1829[17:53:48] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use replaced-url
• 1830[17:54:02] <petn-randall> Xenogenesis: Can you provide *all* the date above?
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• 1833[17:54:17] <petn-randall> Xenogenesis: I guess you can skip 2) since there's no package, but do provide the rest.
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• 1835[17:55:34] <Xenogenesis> sec.
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• 1838[17:57:01] <Giles-B> Hello I am trying to follow this guide: replaced-url
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• 1840[17:57:21] <Giles-B> But there is something wrong with the line: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i ! eth1 -j ACCEPT
• 1841[17:58:21] <Giles-B> I get
• 1842[17:58:30] <Giles-B> Bad argument `eth1'
• 1843[17:58:40] <Giles-B> If I remove the ! it works
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• 1845[17:58:52] <Giles-B> but obviously does the opposite of what I want.
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• 1849[17:59:37] <nate_> hello, I'm looking to get some help with my broken desktop
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• 1851[17:59:54] <nate_> I can log in, but the GUI doesn't start, and startx breaks
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• 1853[18:00:33] <teraflops> Giles-B: try !eth1 no space
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• 1857[18:01:15] <Giles-B> teraflops I get event not found... but \!eth1 worked
• 1858[18:01:25] <teraflops> ugh
• 1859[18:01:37] <teraflops> how are you running it?
• 1860[18:01:44] <teraflops> from where…
• 1861[18:01:45] <Giles-B> would I have to escape that in a script?
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• 1863[18:01:55] <Giles-B> I was testing in the console.
• 1864[18:01:55] <teraflops> so it's a script?
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• 1866[18:02:20] <Giles-B> ultimately it would be the script as described in the link above yeah.
• 1867[18:02:30] <Ad1Tech> hi
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• 1870[18:02:45] <Ad1Tech> does any body tried to use reptyr on Debian 6 ?
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• 1872[18:03:15] <Giles-B> teraflops: So yeah no need to escape in the script, thanks.
• 1873[18:03:23] <Ad1Tech> is it possible to install it on Debian 6? I found only versions for Debian 7 and higher
• 1874[18:03:39] <jmcnaught> Ad1Tech: why not upgrade?
• 1875[18:04:03] <Giles-B> While I am here does anyone know a good approach to finding a pci wifi card with ap mode?
• 1876[18:04:12] <Ad1Tech> or maybe there is other way to detach tar process from my ssh terminal and put it to tmux? :D
• 1877[18:04:14] <Giles-B> (access point mode)
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• 1879[18:04:38] <Wyzard> Ad1Tech, all support (including security updates) for Debian 6 ended more than a year ago
• 1880[18:05:06] <Ad1Tech> jmcnaught: I'm in progress before update, now backup, next will be fresh install Debian 9
• 1881[18:05:17] <jmcnaught> nate_: which release of Debian is this? What happened before stuff broke? can you put Xorg.0.log into a paste?
• 1882[18:05:18] <jolt> Giles-B: not sure, but cards that you can use for wifi packet capture should have the capability
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• 1884[18:06:06] <jmcnaught> Ad1Tech: you might be better off just stopping the process and starting it again inside tmux this time
• 1885[18:06:07] <Ad1Tech> but I've run tar from my remote ssh terminal not using tmux or screen :/
• 1886[18:06:45] <Ad1Tech> jmcnaught: it isn't best solution, now it have archived a lot of data :/
• 1887[18:07:01] <teraflops> Giles-B: try searching for pentesting/wireless on the intertubes I guess
• 1888[18:07:07] <Ad1Tech> I don't want to do it from a beginning
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• 1890[18:07:31] <jelly> Ad1Tech: next time start tmux first, then do stuff
• 1891[18:07:37] <Giles-B> jolt, I thought most of them support packet capture (isn't that the same as monitor mode)?
• 1892[18:07:37] <teraflops> ^
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• 1894[18:07:47] <Ad1Tech> jelly: I know :D
• 1895[18:07:58] <nate_> jmcnaught, I'm on Debian 8.9 jessie. It was working fine before it broke so I'm not sure exactly what caused it. I made a scrapper to download a bunch of chess games, but I thought I still had ~480gb free out of a 500gb SSD, because it keeps complaining about file space somewhere. I delete the folder where I kept that extra data, because it was the last thing I did, and I deleted the contents of my /tmp folder, which could have
• 1896[18:07:58] <nate_> been a big mistake I'm not really sure
• 1897[18:08:02] <jelly> reptyr is a dirty hack, doesn't always work
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• 1899[18:08:11] <teraflops> Giles-B: so what's your goal, monitor mode or AP mode?
• 1900[18:08:18] <jolt> Ad1Tech: ctrl+z, bg, then disown <id of the bg job, probably %1>
• 1901[18:08:27] <Giles-B> teraflops: really? I just wanted to setup my linux box as a wifi access point using hostapd
• 1902[18:08:28] <spikeyball> any idea why it would go into a non-stop cycle of hibernate after coming out of hibernate?
• 1903[18:08:32] <nate_> jmcnaught, how should I put it into a paste?
• 1904[18:08:43] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell nate_ about pastebinit
• 1905[18:08:44] <spikeyball> it = laptop
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• 1907[18:09:00] <spikeyball> for instance, when i close my laptop and come back to it later, the OS will come online for 30 secs and then go into hibernate again. this cycle keeps repeating unless i reboot
• 1908[18:09:02] <jelly> jolt: if they don't want to be interrupted by ssh disconnection, they should use screen or tmux
• 1909[18:09:10] <jmcnaught> nate_: did you try rebooting after deleting stuff in /tmp?
• 1910[18:09:17] <jolt> jelly: Yes, but it's already running was my understanding
• 1911[18:09:20] <spikeyball> didn't do this before the most recent update
• 1912[18:09:36] <jelly> jolt: and they've already lost that tty, so there's nothing to disown
• 1913[18:09:46] <jolt> ah, ok, missed that part.
• 1914[18:09:51] <Ad1Tech> jolt: and what next? Can I attach this process to tmux terminal?
• 1915[18:10:04] <jolt> Ad1Tech: If it's gone, it's gone
• 1916[18:10:12] <jolt> Ad1Tech: just like jelly said
• 1917[18:10:16] <jelly> Ad1Tech: did you in fact get disconnected, or not?
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• 1919[18:10:27] <teraflops> Giles-B: most if hem support AP mode, unless they are really shitty, for hostapd if the wireless nic supports bridge mode it's a plus, but not many wireless cards support bridging
• 1920[18:10:34] <nate_> jmcnaught, yeah I'm been rebooting, it just blank screens every time until I do the ctrl+f1 to log in via command line without the GUI
• 1921[18:10:38] <teraflops> most of them^
• 1922[18:10:39] <maxxe> jelly, /tmp will be cleared on reboot per default
• 1923[18:10:47] <jelly> maxxe: sorry?
• 1924[18:10:54] <Ad1Tech> jelly: I'm still connected
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• 1926[18:11:14] <jelly> Ad1Tech: then you can try doing jolt suggests and hope tar survives
• 1927[18:11:36] <jelly> this will just make it not die if you get disconnected; it won't make it appear on a different tty
• 1928[18:11:39] <jmcnaught> nate_: do you normally use startx, or is your display manager failing to run? What does "df -h" say, is something full?
• 1929[18:12:14] <Giles-B> teraflops ok thanks.
• 1930[18:12:30] <Ad1Tech> but it looks like tar process will take much more time
• 1931[18:13:19] <jmcnaught> spikeyball: which release of Debian is this? Are you using a desktop environment? Can you check the logs for this series of events after a reboot?
• 1932[18:13:42] <nate_> jmcnaught, my default display manager is failing, I see /dev/dm-1 and /dev/sbd1 are full, but I assume the latter is just a USB
• 1933[18:14:02] <jmcnaught> nate_: what are the mount points of the full filesystems?
• 1934[18:14:09] <nate_> it says in /dev/dm-1 I've used 423gb out of 440gb
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• 1936[18:14:16] <nate_> how do I find out the mount points?
• 1937[18:14:40] <jmcnaught> nate_: it's the right-most column in the output of df
• 1938[18:15:08] <nate_> / is mounted on /dev/dm-1
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• 1942[18:16:31] <Ad1Tech> jelly: ok, it looks like that: CTRL+Z, bg, disown, run tmux, and here i can use fg?
• 1943[18:16:34] <nate_> /dev/dm-1 is mounted on /, udev is mounted on /dev, /dev/sdb1 is mounted on /boot
• 1944[18:16:58] <nate_> all the others are tmpfs
• 1945[18:17:11] <jmcnaught> nate_: if / or /var is full it can make it difficult to start services. Did you get that message about pastebinit from the dpkg bot? /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the output of "systemctl status display-manager" would be helpful. You can put the output of df in a paste as well
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• 1949[18:17:56] <nate_> jmcnaught, I tried running sudo aptitude install pastebinit and it said package not found
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• 1951[18:18:35] <nate_> "couldn't find any package whose name or description matched pastebininit"
• 1952[18:18:46] <teraflops> bininit^
• 1953[18:19:00] <nate_> ohh my b
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• 1955[18:19:14] <jmcnaught> pastebin, innit?
• 1956[18:19:17] <teraflops> heh
• 1957[18:20:08] <nate_> jmcnaught, Xorg.0.log is replaced-url
• 1958[18:20:11] <nate_> I'll do the other one next
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• 1962[18:22:29] <nate_> jmcnaught, systemctl errors, I get "error while loading shared libraries: libgcrypt.so.11 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
• 1963[18:23:17] <nate_> jmcnaught, df is 981077
• 1964[18:23:33] <jmcnaught> nate_: does that happen when you run 'systemctl status display-manager' by itself?
• 1965[18:23:43] <Maciek0> which firewall script can you recommend ?? thanks :)
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• 1967[18:23:58] <nate_> jmcnaught, yes
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• 1969[18:24:49] <jmcnaught> nate_: your / is 100% full. You can free up a little space with 'apt-get clean' (which removes packages cached in /var/cache/apt/archives) which might be enough to start your system normally… but you need to delete more stuff after that too
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• 1971[18:25:46] <nate_> jmcnaught, how do I know whats taking up space from the command line? is there a way I could get like a file tree breakdown?
• 1972[18:25:56] <nate_> because I didn't think I was taking up so much space
• 1973[18:26:10] <nate_> other than like 10gb of chess data, it's mostly a spotify and reddit machine
• 1974[18:27:32] <Ad1Tech> Maciek0: iptables ;)
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• 1977[18:28:07] <Maciek0> pure ? :)
• 1978[18:28:39] <jmcnaught> nate_: I usually use ncdu which has an ncurses interface, there's also a du command that should already be installed
• 1979[18:29:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1677
• 1980[18:29:19] <jelly> Ad1Tech: you can't use fg in a different shell, but at least now if you exit the first shell your tar process won't get the HUP (hang up) signal
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• 1985[18:30:36] <nate_> jmcnaught, thanks! I found that my /var folder is taking up 405GB, would it be safe to delete it's contents?
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• 1987[18:30:47] <jmcnaught> nate_: nope
• 1988[18:30:53] <Xenogenesis> Hell no
• 1989[18:31:05] <Xenogenesis> Never delete a system folder o.O
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• 1991[18:31:14] <jmcnaught> nate_: find out what inside of /var is using that space. Probably a run-away log in /var/log
• 1992[18:31:19] <nate_> how do I know what to get rid of inside of /var?
• 1993[18:31:27] <nate_> jmcnaught, Ok
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• 1997[18:32:16] <nate_> 135GB for /var/log/syslog, 135GB for messages.1 in the same folder, and 135GB for user.log.1 in the same folder
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• 1999[18:32:47] <nate_> those safe to remove?
• 2000[18:32:51] <nate_> or at least empty
• 2001[18:32:59] <Ad1Tech> jelly: is there any other idea to move it to tmux without lossing this process?
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• 2003[18:33:10] <jmcnaught> nate_: before you remove them you should get an idea of what they're full of so you can fix the root cause
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• 2005[18:33:30] <jmcnaught> nate_: try "tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog" to see just the last 100 lines
• 2006[18:33:40] <Xenogenesis> Logs are safe to delete
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• 2011[18:35:15] <nate_> just seams like junk to me? replaced-url
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• 2014[18:36:37] <jmcnaught> nate_: try again with the user.log.1 file, there's probably the same message over and over, and it's probably a user application
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• 2020[18:38:26] <nate_> jmcnaught, I think it's from a live wallpaper application I installed, "variety", because theres a message about the desktop clock image every few lines replaced-url
• 2021[18:39:25] <jmcnaught> nate_: nice. once you delete the enormous log files and reboot things will probably be back to normal, but you'll want to either keep an eye on variety or stop using it
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• 2023[18:39:54] <nate_> thanks jmcnaught !!! I'll for sure uninstall it after this thing
• 2024[18:40:16] <jelly> Ad1Tech: no. go build reptyr from source, it's a tiny tool
• 2025[18:40:43] <jelly> Ad1Tech: it might confuse your process, or not, who knows
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• 2027[18:41:21] <Ad1Tech> jelly: but what with dependencies?
• 2028[18:41:46] <Ad1Tech> old release from Debian Wheezy needs libc6 2.4 or higher
• 2029[18:42:08] <jelly> Ad1Tech: that's why you build it FROM SOURCE
• 2030[18:42:10] <Ad1Tech> in this Debian 6 server libc6 is in 2.11 version
• 2031[18:42:29] <Ad1Tech> it will not ask me for it? :D
• 2032[18:42:39] <jelly> for what?
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• 2035[18:43:10] <Ad1Tech> libc6 2.4 dev libs?
• 2036[18:43:22] <Ad1Tech> or something :D
• 2037[18:43:26] <jelly> try it
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• 2040[18:43:48] <Xenogenesis> Just install the libs then
• 2041[18:43:54] <Xenogenesis> No problem
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• 2044[18:44:41] <jelly> 2.11 _is_ equal or higher than 2.4
• 2045[18:45:13] <Ad1Tech> Xenogenesis: whole system depends on libc6 and it isn't easy to change it :D
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• 2048[18:45:35] <Ad1Tech> i'll try to compile
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• 2050[18:45:47] <jelly> you don't change it, you build stuff against the version that's in your OS
• 2051[18:45:58] <Xenogenesis> Just try it
• 2052[18:46:03] <Xenogenesis> And tell us how it goed
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• 2054[18:46:07] <Xenogenesis> *goes
• 2055[18:46:23] <Xenogenesis> It might be difficult for you but not impossible
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• 2061[18:49:52] <Ad1Tech> well, it will be complicated especially this server can't get into internet, to use apt-get, wget or something :D
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• 2067[18:53:58] <jelly> did you ssh into it from a machine that has internet access
• 2068[18:54:10] <Xenogenesis> It CANT internet?
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• 2072[18:59:01] <Ad1Tech> ok, compiled
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• 2074[18:59:32] <Ad1Tech> it looks like it work :D
• 2075[18:59:45] <Ad1Tech> now tested on moving top process to tmux
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• 2080[19:01:52] <Xenogenesis> Great
• 2081[19:01:54] <Ad1Tech> a little bug there is, just after moved process to tmux, tmux can't understeand detach keyboard shortcuts, but when I closed it, and connect and attach to tmux session again, it is working :D
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• 2083[19:02:26] <Ad1Tech> well, time to do it on tar process :D
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• 2085[19:02:41] <Xenogenesis> Tmux doesn't understand it here too
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• 2090[19:03:15] <Xenogenesis> Well that's with what u need to cope if you control all your servers via phone
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• 2092[19:03:51] <Xenogenesis> But tmux saves me work
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• 2107[19:14:58] <Ad1Tech> well
• 2108[19:15:01] <Ad1Tech> problem :D
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• 2110[19:15:15] <Ad1Tech> tar dettached but there is subprocess xD
• 2111[19:15:18] <Ad1Tech> gzip
• 2112[19:15:45] <e2> ##admin
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• 2115[19:16:19] <e2> who joines run beta tester bnc of freenode
• 2116[19:17:58] <Ad1Tech> i found pid of child process but how to move it with tar? :D
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• 2118[19:18:27] <Ad1Tech> reptyr 31825
• 2119[19:18:29] <Ad1Tech> [-] Process 31826 (gzip) shares 31825's process group. Unable to attach.
• 2120[19:18:31] <Ad1Tech> (This most commonly means that 31825 has sub-processes).
• 2121[19:18:33] <Ad1Tech> Unable to attach to pid 31825: Invalid argument
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• 2134[19:24:49] <elfuego> apollo13: hey I did the apt update && apt upgrade -y and I got the updated git patch for CVE-2017-1000117, thanks man
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• 2139[19:26:10] <jmcnaught> elfuego: one day apt might ask you a question you want to say no to, and you'll regret using -y
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• 2142[19:28:02] <elfuego> jmcnaught: you’re right about that, thats why i’m working on an AI to inject into my scripts to make that call for me :b
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• 2157[19:35:26] <aiRness> hello, although I do have defined my main debian repos as "testing" in sources.list why do I get at /etc/debian_version "buster/sid"
• 2158[19:36:15] <petn-randall> aiRness: Because that is the codename provided in testing.
• 2159[19:36:31] <aiRness> ok I was confused with the "sid" word though
• 2160[19:36:38] <aiRness> I'm aware buster is the next stable release
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• 2165[19:39:13] <aiRness> I thought sid was only used for "unstable"
• 2166[19:40:11] <abrotman> it's too fluid to keep the nameslike that, so they use both
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• 2171[19:43:49] <jelly> it's impossible to have a separate branch of base-files package (the one that brings /etc/debian_version) just for testing
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• 2270[20:12:33] <gurditsbedi> So... I have burned the debian amd64 dvd 1 and then I went to install it ... But I got `debootstrap error` saying that package is corrupt and this came for 100s of packages.... I checked the MD5 and SHA-1 they are correct.
• 2271[20:12:43] <gurditsbedi> Any idea about this problem.
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• 2279[20:18:24] <teraflops> gurditsbedi: did you burn the iso to a DVD?
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• 2284[20:18:53] <gurditsbedi> teraflops: yes
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• 2287[20:19:34] <gurditsbedi> I also checked the `verify disc` option. It didnt gave any errors
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• 2289[20:20:29] <teraflops> that error is either the recording went bad or connectivity problems if the installer is downloading packages from the internet
• 2290[20:21:09] <gurditsbedi> should i try it in an virtualbox?
• 2291[20:21:19] <teraflops> why?
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• 2293[20:21:33] <teraflops> did you tell the installer to use a mirror for getting packages?
• 2294[20:21:54] <gurditsbedi> it happened during base system installation
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• 2296[20:22:01] <teraflops> …
• 2297[20:22:45] <gurditsbedi> when i was using `graphical install` it gave codename release error but when I user `install` it gave the corrupt package error
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• 2299[20:22:51] <teraflops> gurditsbedi: I cannot remember the installer steps accurately
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• 2303[20:23:25] <gurditsbedi> teraflops: so what should I do ?
• 2304[20:23:34] <gurditsbedi> burn to a USB?
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• 2306[20:23:40] <teraflops> yeah
• 2307[20:24:16] <gurditsbedi> cool then...
• 2308[20:24:26] <gurditsbedi> bye mate... have a nice day...
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• 2310[20:24:58] <teraflops> it looks like the recording went wrong, or the optical unit is not reading the disc properly
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• 2312[20:25:35] <teraflops> gurditsbedi: iirc you cant crtl+alt+f12 and you should see read write errors in the messages
• 2313[20:26:26] <teraflops> if that's the issue, also I bet if the dvd is failing you should hear a lot of noise from the optical unit
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• 2317[20:27:32] <teraflops> yeah bye… bro… ^
• 2318[20:27:56] <gurditsbedi> teraflops:
• 2319[20:28:00] <gurditsbedi> are you there man?
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• 2324[20:30:04] <gurditsbedi> When I install the debian with windows it is resulting in 6 primary partitions(3 windows and 3 debian(/, swap, /home) this happens even if I select logical while installation. And then If I boot in windows and then back in debian the debian OS crashes.
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• 2326[20:30:23] <gurditsbedi> Any idea about this problem ?
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• 2330[20:32:17] <abrotman> gurditsbedi: show the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/<device>'
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• 2332[20:33:08] <gurditsbedi> OS is corrupt already ... can't execute that command
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• 2334[20:33:35] <gurditsbedi> I can show the screen shot of the parition manager window in windows
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• 2338[20:36:46] <gurditsbedi> abrotman: replaced-url
• 2339[20:36:54] <gurditsbedi> *primary partitions
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• 2369[20:48:31] <teraflops> gurditsbedi: no idea, sorry
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• 2397[20:56:54] <LtL> gurditsbedi: i was under the impression you can only have 4 primary partitions on the disk
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• 2468[21:28:13] <lemrac> does someone know if there's a window layout theme that achieves the red-yellow-green button corner?
• 2469[21:28:30] <lemrac> *theme for debian, *corner just like parrots
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• 2472[21:29:07] <lemrac> !parrot
• 2473[21:29:07] <dpkg> Parrot OS (replaced-url
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• 2482[21:31:41] <teraflops> lemrac: unless youre using GPT
• 2483[21:32:08] <teraflops> lemrac: sorry Ltl left
• 2484[21:33:15] <cheapie> There's really no reason *not* to use GPT these days, unless you need to dual-boot with Windows on a non-EFI box.
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• 2486[21:34:37] <e2> virtual machine
• 2487[21:34:38] <teraflops> you can even use GPT with BIOS
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• 2489[21:34:45] <e2> virtualbox
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• 2493[21:35:26] <e2> dont use bios
• 2494[21:35:37] <teraflops> why?
• 2495[21:35:40] <e2> it is image any OS
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• 2497[21:35:50] <e2> for hack
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• 2499[21:36:10] <e2> virtualbox gooogle it
• 2500[21:36:30] <e2> u can open in window sub os
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• 2521[21:55:01] <kahra> what advantages does unstable offer over testing?
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• 2525[21:56:59] <mandeep> im not sure advantage is the right word
• 2526[21:57:12] <teraflops> is not about advantages, people running sid are supposed to test sw and file bugs
• 2527[21:57:50] <n4dir> kahra, search for "debian +which distribution to use". It gives a quick opinion.
• 2528[21:58:28] <n4dir> in short, iirc, it might take quite a time if a fixed application gets uploaded to testing, while in sid this might happen very quickly
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• 2530[21:58:57] <n4dir> s/if/for a
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• 2532[21:59:37] <n4dir> there is also the option to run a mixed system of testing and unstable (if an app is stuck in sid/undstable, you might upgrade it from there, else use testing)
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• 2534[22:00:34] <Pret0riab> hi all
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• 2537[22:01:53] <Pret0riab> anyone know if it is possible to configure ssh so that it remembers all of my rsa.pub certs even when i logout and back in - at present i have to ssh-add on login for my certs to show up in ssh-agent -l
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• 2545[22:06:23] <teraflops> Pret0riab: hmm, if I get what you meant, you can create a ~/.ssh/config like replaced-url
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• 2547[22:06:49] <HyP3r> hey all, I have here a debian strech (now) - I have updated - and I used to start x11vnc in a ssh session to access the server in a graphical way.
• 2548[22:06:57] <HyP3r> But this isn't working anymore
• 2549[22:07:03] <HyP3r> Any ideas why?
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• 2554[22:08:05] <HyP3r> Now I get 12/08/2017 22:07:26 XOpenDisplay(":0") failed.
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• 2559[22:10:06] <ramrebol_> Hi. I have a little question. I download paraview and moved it to /opt. The I tried to do a symbolic link (with ln -s /opt/paraview/bin/paraview /usr/local/bin/paraview) but this don't work. One solution is add PATH=$PATH/paraview... in my ~/bash_profile... This works. My question is, do you think is the best solution? Or there are something else more "nice"?
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• 2563[22:12:17] <n4dir> /usr/local (or anything with local) isn't a typical linux path. I would probably try to symlink it to ~/bin (which gets an executable path via ~/.profile, if ~/bin exists, if i recall correct
• 2564[22:12:27] <n4dir> did that make any sense?
• 2565[22:12:58] <somiaj> n4dir: /usr/local/bin is a typical path in linux and is a good place to put local stuff in debian.
• 2566[22:13:09] <n4dir> uh. no
• 2567[22:13:13] <somiaj> ramrebol_: why doesn't that link work, is paraview a shell script calling things that aren't in the path.
• 2568[22:13:25] <somiaj> n4dir: by default /usr/local/bin is in your $PATH already
• 2569[22:13:33] <teraflops> ramrebol_: or just add /opt to $PATH
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• 2576[22:16:18] <teraflops> /opt/paraview/bin or whatever obv.
• 2577[22:16:37] <somiaj> ramrebol_: But adding PATH=/opt/paraview/bin:$PATH to your .profile or .bashrc is fine. Just note if you are using a login(1) shell or not as for which one bash will read in your terminal.
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• 2587[22:23:41] <ramrebol_> teraflops: paraview is a directory, so your suggestions does not work, but thanks
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• 2590[22:24:02] <teraflops> 22:16:18 teraflops ⎸ /opt/paraview/bin or whatever obv.
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• 2593[22:24:57] <ramrebol_> thanks somiaj
• 2594[22:25:24] <ramrebol_> now I'm thinking that some alias to /opt/paraview/bin/paraview could be nicer
• 2595[22:25:52] <ramrebol_> both solution works, I'm only thinking which one is nicer or better
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• 2601[22:30:55] <somiaj> ramrebol_: personal choice. Sounds like paraview needs to know what directory it is run from which is why maybe the link didn't work. You could also write a wrapper script and put it in ~/bin to call it, though an alais is probabaly sufficent.
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• 2603[22:33:56] <ramrebol_> you are right somiaj, /opt/bin/paraview needs somethings of directory /opt/paraview/. I going to use "alias", I'm thinking is nicer. Thanks!
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• 2682[23:17:29] <HyP3r> Whats at the moment a good way to connect to another debian system with a graphical interface? x11vnc is broken and xrdp is broken. What should I use?
• 2683[23:17:50] <HyP3r> debian (stretch)
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• 2685[23:18:38] <abrotman> why are they broken?
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• 2687[23:18:48] <abrotman> because, those are pretty much the standard ways
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• 2689[23:20:22] <HyP3r> x11vnc: I connect via ssh to the server (debian stretch) an call it (while beeing root) like that: x11vnc -auth /run/user/118/gdm/Xauthority -display :0 -loop
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• 2691[23:20:59] <HyP3r> abrotman: I'm then able to connect to the server via Ultra VNC (Windows...) and Enter Username and Passwort, after that I hhave a black screen.
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• 2693[23:21:57] <abrotman> you probably have to start a WM
• 2694[23:22:14] <HyP3r> abrotman: I don't find any further information which could help me about that problem. Under jessie this way was working pretty good
• 2695[23:22:17] <HyP3r> abrotman: how?
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