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33 [00:11:54] <chomwitt> my /tmp space is filled with thousand
of files with a long strings of numbers as name
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40 [00:14:14] <chomwitt>
replaced-url
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57 [00:19:55] <b00kworm> Kill it with fire
58 [00:20:02] <b00kworm> What the hell did you do to that box?
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60 [00:20:36] <b00kworm> Or better what were you running... But
consider it toast
61 [00:20:36] <chomwitt> fire/
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63 [00:21:32] <chomwitt> :-(
64 [00:21:34] <b00kworm> Nuke them 'till they glow and
shoot them in the dark
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66 [00:21:49] <digdilem> chomwitt, your server is compromised.
reformat and reinstall.
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68 [00:22:15] <chomwitt> digdilem: backing up my sites atleast?
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72 [00:22:50] <b00kworm> Probably better if you don't if
you don't know the attack vector
73 [00:22:52] <digdilem> of course, but you should use backups
from before it was compromised - as you may have bad stuff in there
74 [00:23:00] <digdilem> trust nothing
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76 [00:23:26] <chomwitt> attack vector?
77 [00:23:32] <cef> chomwitt: you basically need to consider the
whole lot compromised. you need to go to back ups of your sites,
then before you put them back online,. go through them with a fine
tooth comb to see if there are any hooks that'll cause problems
(ie: a backdoor that you didn't notice).
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79 [00:23:57] <chomwitt> cef: lot?
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83 [00:24:22] <cef> chomwitt: if you don't have backups
already, make them now but consider them possible ways to get back
in. you need to do even more thorough checking.
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85 [00:24:35] <chomwitt> cef: ok i see
86 [00:24:44] <cef> chomwitt: lot = all of your sites and
anything else you grab from the machine.
87 [00:24:53] <chomwitt> cef: they are simple php-based sites
basically
88 [00:25:48] <cef> chomwitt: then either there's a php
vulnerability you didn't patch, or they have a loophole that
allows people to get in, or they brute-forced themselves in some
other way (eg: ssh to an account with a poor password)
89 [00:26:02] <chomwitt> anyway thanks for the truth guys..
90 [00:26:21] <chomwitt> i'll take some backups and
reinstall
91 [00:26:35] <chomwitt> and try to check those backups..
92 [00:27:23] <chomwitt> is there any point on keeping some data
on the kind of strange files i found?
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95 [00:28:48] <cef> chomwitt: yes. it might give you info on how
they got in... you might try googling for info, etc. that in itself
might stop it happening again.
96 [00:29:29] <fdgfds2351> Hello. Would someone running Debian 9
(amd64) be so kind as to take a moment to post md5sums of a few
binaries? I need md5's of cd ls dd and mv.
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98 [00:30:10] <chomwitt> cef: i just see with ps :
replaced-url
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103 [00:31:19] <blackslide> ls 0b19809bab331d70fb9983a0b9866290
104 [00:31:50] <blackslide> dd cb148341684949cb78592cddafd3c316
105 [00:31:51] <chomwitt> cef: i killed it .. ha!! i'm still
root!! :-)
106 [00:32:01] <cef> fdgfds2351: do you also trust your md5sum?
107 [00:32:12] <fdgfds2351> good call, cef. that too plz,
blackslide
108 [00:32:35] <blackslide> mv da8c46a7d08b648bde332db4c87bc6e6
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110 [00:33:01] <cef> prob also want to do sha265sum on md5sum and
vice versa
111 [00:33:09] <blackslide> I cant find cd
112 [00:33:23] <blackslide> does it just link to ls?
113 [00:33:23] <fdgfds2351> "whereis cd"
114 [00:33:26] <cef> cd's inbuilt in bash afaik
115 [00:33:31] <fdgfds2351> ok
116 [00:33:41] <somiaj> the command is 'which' not
'whereis'
117 [00:34:13] <blackslide> I've always used whereis?
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119 [00:34:33] <whoami> sup everyone
120 [00:34:49] <whoami> does CVE-2017-5754 affects kali linux
4.14?
121 [00:35:15] <somiaj> blackslide: oh sorry, yea, which and
whereis do different things. which is useful if you want to know
what binary 'foo' actually runs
122 [00:35:35] <blackslide> ah, okay. Thanks :)
123 [00:35:45] <blackslide>
08c9ecb479710c1a5f548bf48b722c7ef03054a1741116ae0794df49a5fbb9d4
md5sum
124 [00:35:49] <cef> fdgfds2351: may also be worthwhile doing
md5sum and sha256sum from a rescue disk that has both.. at least to
check those binaries.. (eg: after your current tests if you find
nothing)
125 [00:35:59] <blackslide> that's sha256sum of md5sum
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127 [00:36:04] <fdgfds2351> tyvm blackslide & cef
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131 [00:36:56] <blackslide> e22f2d5f30ca382d5d873dd580d386b7
sha256sum
132 [00:37:04] <blackslide> md5sum of sha256sum
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134 [00:37:41] <cef> chomwitt: was it using a lot of cpu?
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139 [00:39:18] <cef> chomwitt: if so, probably doing cryptomining
as well.. which may not be what was causing your site issues.
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163 [00:51:19] <chomwitt> cef: yes
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168 [00:54:20] <cef> chomwitt: I'
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172 [00:55:05] <cef> chomwitt: I'd recommend you check for
more than one infection.. it's possible you've been hit
multiple times. possibly through the same vector (security hole).
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177 [00:56:13] <cef> chomwitt: I'd still not trust anything
from that machine without giving it a thorough vetting. If it's
downloaded code (eg: wordpress) I'd reinstall it all from
scratch and then reimport the data after vetting it hard.
178 [00:56:15] <chomwitt> well.. the cryptomining is one that eat
cpu and my /tmp dir, and i have the issue with url redirecting to an
ad page.
179 [00:56:31] <chomwitt> cef: vetting?
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184 [00:57:02] <cef> chomwitt: reviewing all your data, to make
sure there's no back doors somehow hidden in it
185 [00:57:21] <chomwitt> cef : are there free tools to do that?
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188 [00:57:50] <cef> eg: even a database entry on an interactive
site that's db driven could have some backdoor in it somewhere.
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190 [00:58:43] * chomwitt so farewell to my webdev innocent years...
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197 [00:59:49] <chomwitt> cpu is very low and the cryptomining
script hasnt started.
198 [00:59:58] <cef> chomwitt: depends entirely on what was used
to make the site.. there's probably not many tools for
searching a db, as it'll be dependant on what created the db..
searching the code is easier
199 [01:00:09] <chomwitt> where else to look fon malicious file
messing with url redirecting ?
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206 [01:01:04] <cef> if you're using something that has
plugins (eg: wp plugins, drupal plugins, etc), go searching through
those to make surethey've not got extra code injected in them.
207 [01:01:05] <chomwitt> cef: dokuwiki , wordpress , phpbb ,
custommade js+html+jquery .. that kind of sites
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214 [01:03:39] <cef> chomwitt: might want to look at some of the
tools from this page:
replaced-url
215 [01:03:50] <cef> there's bound to be more, but
that's a good start.
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220 [01:06:58] <chomwitt> cef: thanks!
221 [01:07:07] <cef> chomwitt: fwiw: file uploads in php are
notorious for being unsafe, so if you have anything that allows a
visitor to upload files to you, I'd disable that or make sure
that the person is behind a login and authorised to access it (ie:
you manually approve they can do this somehow).
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228 [01:09:54] <capin> would anyone know how i could solve
replaced-url
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287 [01:30:28] <tom[]> capin: how long since that system was last
upgraded?
288 [01:30:31] <mnuhmnuh> capin: lenny is really old. upgrade.
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294 [01:31:34] <capin> i'm aware, I need to use lenny for a
project I'm working on.
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296 [01:32:01] <mnuhmnuh> reconsider.
297 [01:33:32] <tom[]> capin: i'm not sure there is a simple
solution. support for old systems eventually ends
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308 [01:37:20] <capin> tom[]: is there a debian package for
libc6@2.14?
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316 [01:41:22] <FightingFalcon> is debian the best linux distro?
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318 [01:42:01] <annadane> i'd say so but that's really
just my opinion
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320 [01:42:36] <annadane>
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321 [01:44:37] <mutante> FightingFalcon: of course :)
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325 [01:45:02] <jim> FightingFalcon, it's pretty stable....
and, one weakness is also one of its strengths: its package
dependency tree. without a lot of detail, immporting a dep tree
that's not compatible with the one already on your machine can
get you into trouble
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327 [01:45:31] <FightingFalcon> lol
328 [01:45:55] <FightingFalcon> i was using debian 7 and i didnt
know anything and i added debian 9 repositories in apt-sources file
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330 [01:46:11] <FightingFalcon> and all my o/s was destroyed. had
to reinstall it and since that i took interest on linux
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334 [01:47:16] <jim> yeah, you should upgrade one release at a
time (7 -> 8, 8 -> 9)
335 [01:47:23] <SilverMight> checked a friend's pc, new to
linux
336 [01:47:37] <SilverMight> had wheezy repos in sources, on
stretch
337 [01:47:42] <FightingFalcon> worst thing is most packages are
out of date
338 [01:47:51] <iodot> is there a proper way to install kde
plasma minimal on stretch?
339 [01:48:07] <annadane> iodot, kde-plasma-desktop
340 [01:48:16] <jim> which isn't a bad thing either (unless
something specific comes up)
341 [01:48:23] <annadane> FightingFalcon,
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343 [01:48:51] <iodot> annadane: wont that pull every thing?
344 [01:49:07] <annadane> iodot, it's the most minimal
plasma you'll get
345 [01:49:10] <themill> iodot: every package has a description,
it would be worth reading
346 [01:49:34] <annadane> see
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348 [01:49:52] <iodot> ok great. cheers.
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350 [01:50:12] <annadane> (yes it will pull in everything that
being said, kde has lots of libraries)
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352 [01:51:21] <annadane> don't like it, don't use KDE
:-)
353 [01:51:36] <jim> these debian folks are smart... they could
probably find a way to prevent the importing of incompatible dep
trees
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355 [01:51:49] <FightingFalcon> why nginx, mariadb, varnish etc
all have older versions in apt-get?
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359 [01:52:45] <annadane> because stable has older packages
360 [01:52:55] <annadane> (because they're well tested)
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362 [01:53:21] <tom[]> FightingFalcon: versions of nginx and
maria in stretch are pretty reasonable
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365 [01:54:17] <jim> FightingFalcon, there are also some outside
sources of packages (be careful here), like for postgresql, there is
a repo where they have a lot of different versions of postgres
compiled specifically for each release of debian, and in this
particular case, they work very well
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367 [01:54:35] <FightingFalcon> yes i know
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371 [01:55:47] <jim> you should consider postgres, it has a lot
of ways for the database designer to prevent db corruption (more so
than some others)
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373 [01:57:06] <FightingFalcon> better than mariadb?
374 [01:57:22] <jim> when you first look at it, it looks like a
lot of stuff to learn... but, when you get used to it, it's not
as complex, especially to manage
375 [01:57:36] <jim> probably (not totally sure)
376 [01:57:42] <annadane> eww 3rd party repos
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379 [01:58:05] <annadane> i'd use that as last resort if you
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380 [01:58:21] <jim> annadane, I'm pretty sure the
"third parties" in this case are postgresql devs and
debian devs
381 [01:58:29] <FightingFalcon> annadane thanks
382 [01:58:33] <annadane> i guess, that's fair enough
383 [01:58:43] <FightingFalcon> are my current mariadb databases
compatible with postgress?
384 [01:58:48] <annadane> just be aware that though this may be
trustworthy, others may/will not be
385 [02:00:45] <jim> FightingFalcon, no, not binary compatible,
and also not compatible in some other ways. they may or may not fit
particular applications that were designed around other dbs. and,
both maria and postgres are relational databases, so they work in
similar ways
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457 [02:42:17] <rant> anyone know of a wav editor that perhaps is
lighter than audacity? simple copy/cut/paste features are what
I'm looking for
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484 [03:12:19] <rant> fwiw at first glance anyhow, sweep seems to
be the tool.. its not as nice an interface, but it seems to run more
smoothly on old systems than audacity and have all the same features
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486 [03:14:25] <rant> strangely enough while the waveform display
seems to be less resource intensive and less polished, it seems to
have a better detail/resolution than audacity
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546 [03:42:07] <zumba_ad_> Evening folks. I'm currently
using bunselabs on virtualbox. I love it. Are there other debian I
can try which you think I will fall in love to it too?
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548 [03:43:04] <themill> #debian normally just recommends debian.
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563 [03:55:07] <zumba_ad_> got it. Thanks
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579 [04:10:43] <AmR|EiSa> Hello
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581 [04:10:50] <AmR|EiSa> I try install winehq
582 [04:11:03] <AmR|EiSa> as in
replaced-url
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585 [04:11:42] <AmR|EiSa> I add deb
replaced-url
586 [04:11:42] <AmR|EiSa> Failed to fetch
replaced-url
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592 [04:14:50] <themill> AmR|EiSa: you probably should ask them
about it... but I'd bet you were supposed to put something
there instead of DISTRO
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594 [04:15:06] <Finalight> hello everyone. i'm having a bit
confusion over here with ssh keys. I set one up for my home/isp, but
problem is when I am out at other locations. I can't ssh into
my own machine. Any ideas?
595 [04:15:13] <themill> AmR|EiSa: (just like it says on that
page)
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601 [04:21:58] <Finalight> anyone around
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603 [04:22:08] <dvs> nope
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651 [04:52:59] <cluelessperson> hi there, sorry to bother you
guys, but it appears that I'm getting, from one server to
another, about 81 mbps
652 [04:53:10] <cluelessperson> over openvpn when they have a
gigabit connection?
653 [04:53:13] <cluelessperson> that seems really wrong
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655 [04:53:58] <cluelessperson> through the gigabit port, I seem
to get 400Mb/s
656 [04:54:05] <cluelessperson> should be more like 800
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658 [04:55:47] <cluelessperson> nvm, I am getting more like 800
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877 [07:42:46] <asterismo_l> hi
878 [07:43:05] <asterismo_l> i upgraded from jessie to stretch
and dovecot wont start
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881 [07:44:12] <somiaj> start by looking at the logs, with
journalctl or systemctl status, and see what errors are being
reported.
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884 [07:45:42] <asterismo_l> it complains about not finding the
file /etc/ssl/certs/StarCom_Certification_Authority.pem
885 [07:45:55] <asterismo_l> that file is not in the system
anyway
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887 [07:46:37] <asterismo_l> it prompted about the dovecot
configuration and i choose the default=N and keep the previous file
888 [07:47:54] <asterismo_l> how con i fix this?
889 [07:47:58] <asterismo_l> can*
890 [07:48:23] <asterismo_l> is there anyway to see the default
conf file fer dovecot in stretch?
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902 [07:58:13] <asterismo_l> i got it
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933 [08:13:55] <lavenders> how to change timezone
934 [08:14:00] <lavenders> tzconfig?
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937 [08:14:48] <annadane> dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
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939 [08:15:49] <rjsalts> I usually prefer to do it by plane
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961 [08:30:17] <darxmurf> rjsalts: it's not always working
:D
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1009 [08:53:37] <blob> Hello, I'm having some issues with
debian stretch 9.3.0 in virtualbox (installing guest additions, it
seems it can't load vboxvideo)
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1026 [08:57:34] <blingrang> Hi, all of a sudden my apt-updates are
failing due to "Unable to connect to packages.dotdeb.org:http:
[IP: 2001:bc8:21eb:100::1 80]"
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1076 [09:18:42] <bolt> blingrang: is your ipv6 connection working
for other things?
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1078 [09:19:01] <blingrang> yeah.
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1080 [09:19:33] <blingrang> I can't even open dotdeb.org.
1081 [09:19:55] <blingrang> I think it may not be working from
here .
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1146 [09:59:07] <colinl> hi folks! Does someone have information
about why updated kernel packages aren't yet available for
Debian 8?
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1148 [10:00:31] <darxmurf> I would say, why don't you upgrade
to 9 ?
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1150 [10:01:13] <annadane> that's not the proper answer;
jessie is still supported
1151 [10:01:32] <annadane> anyway, i know they're working on
it for jessie
1152 [10:01:46] <annadane> i don't know why it's not
done yet
1153 [10:01:54] <k_sze[work]> There's still no Debian
certification like RHCE's counterpart, right?
1154 [10:02:06] <k_sze[work]> The closest thing is the one for
Ubuntu from Canonical?
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1166 [10:07:47] <work2live4love8> cheers- hope this is the right
forum.. have a question I find a little hard to google; I have a
number of PCs with debian for several different users, using the
same base image. Then one of the users uses apt to install some
additional package that he needs. This package is probably dependent
on many other packages which are installed on his PC. Thats all
great. Now: is there a way that he could "export" his
"installation" to
1167 [10:07:47] <work2live4love8> me, so that he -or other users-
can get that same package installation for a new PC without having
to connect to the internet or a local mirror the next time they get
that same 'old image I provide them? I think what Im looking
for is some sort of package bundling (including the deb files) of
the reverse depends of a certain package. any ideas?
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1198 [10:23:30] <petn-randall> work2live4love8: Sure, that's
possible:
1199 [10:23:34] <petn-randall> !debian clone
1200 [10:23:34] <dpkg> One method of cloning Debian installs is to
take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you
want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections >
~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other
machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections <
~/selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask
me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to
backup> <apt-clone>.
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1202 [10:24:30] <petn-randall> work2live4love8: Oh, I misread your
question. You're looking for something like apt-cacher-ng.
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1218 [10:27:13] <k_sze[work]> petn-randall: does `dpkg
--get-selections` pin down the version numbers?
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1221 [10:29:16] <petn-randall> k_sze[work]: no
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1225 [10:30:19] <k_sze[work]> Yeah, that's always been the
thing that bugs me about dpkg --get-selections.
1226 [10:30:41] <k_sze[work]> I tried to use it a while ago and
found it deficient.
1227 [10:31:26] <k_sze[work]> !debian aptitude clone
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1232 [10:34:01] <petn-randall> k_sze[work]: That would be:
1233 [10:34:05] <petn-randall> !aptitude clone
1234 [10:34:05] <dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude
(or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search
--disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on
the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install <
package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves
information about "automatically installed" packages that
other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to
backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
1235 [10:34:24] <petn-randall> k_sze[work]: However, it's
better to ask the bot directly, unless you want to show something in
the channel.
1236 [10:34:46] <k_sze[work]> like /msg dpkg ...?
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1238 [10:35:07] <petn-randall> k_sze[work]: yes
1239 [10:36:05] <petn-randall> k_sze[work]: The bot will happily
respond to any factoids you /msg it. "listkeys
<keyword>" and "listvalues <keyword>" is
also a useful way to search for information.
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1248 [10:41:02] <work2live4love8> wow, thanks a lot! I will look
into that!
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1279 [10:53:53] <jelly> colinl: because it takes a lot of work to
make them. If you're only worried about meltdown mitigation you
can try using kernel build from jessie-backports:
4.9.0-0.bpo.5-amd64
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1324 [11:14:46] <colinl> hi jelly, thanks for your reply
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1328 [11:15:44] <colinl> I'm considering that but will wait a
bit more, wouldn't want to break production servers with a
backported kernel without tests extensive enough
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1351 [11:33:56] <petn-randall> colinl: IMHO it only amplifies what
any malware can carry away from the system. If you don't run
any untrusted code on your machines the impact is fairly low (for
now).
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1366 [11:41:58] <ezdev> petn-randall, why do you add "for
now"
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1368 [11:42:17] <ezdev> note that was largely my impression as
well (re: vectors/impact)
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1382 [11:50:25] <colinl> petn-randall: yeah, it's pretty
local for now, on servers with no local users it can
"only" worsen things in case of remote exploits in the
running services
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1384 [11:51:04] <ezdev> colinl, and javascript
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1386 [11:51:30] <ezdev> but thats on the desktop side
1387 [11:51:37] <colinl> yes
1388 [11:51:54] <FinalX> colinl: we run a lot of servers, but only
a handful can e used to run uncontrolled code from third-parties
(shared webhosting, shell servers). those we forcibly upgraded to
stretch. rest is still running jessie with a vulnerable kernel, we
accept that risk as they're completely isolated. we also still
have some wheezy machines, who also already got a fixed kernel.
1389 [11:52:10] <FinalX> kvm and firefox and all also got updates
for it
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1391 [11:52:19] <FinalX> spectre isn't fixed in any of the 3
btw
1392 [11:52:22] <colinl> yes, surprisingly enough, they came
faster on wheezy :)
1393 [11:53:08] <FinalX> well, the kernel in wheezy was probably
easier to fix than in jessie, and stretch is stable so probably got
most attention first (plus probably better one-on-one compatibility
with the official linux kernel patches)
1394 [11:53:22] <FinalX> but, just guessing
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1396 [11:54:15] <FinalX> we're also currently pondering to
keep the security patches disabled on certain heavily loaded
database servers that are quite isolated due to the alleged
performance decrease, but we're gonna test that for ourselves
first. most machines are severely overspecced anyway.
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1418 [12:00:01] <petn-randall> ezdev: I added "for now"
because there isn't any consensus on the real impact, how good
the mitigations are, or even if this can be fully mitigated in
software (especially the spectre bug).
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1435 [12:05:16] <f4cl3y> Hello Guys, Did Debian release the patch
for CVE-2017-5754 already, I can see in the tracker that it is fixed
for Debian9 but I can't see it in the upgrade list.
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1437 [12:06:51] <FinalX> Meltdown/CVE-2017-5754 is fixed in wheezy
and stretch, but not jessie.
1438 [12:07:09] <FinalX> Spectre/CVE-2017-5753+CVE-2017-5715 is
not fixed in any.
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1440 [12:07:45] <babilen> f4cl3y: You might not have a suitable
kernel metapackage installed. What does "apt update" and
"apt policy linux-image-4.9.0-3-amd64" give you?
1441 [12:07:59] <FinalX> also see
replaced-url
1442 [12:08:15] <FinalX> You need to have the debian-security repo
enabled.
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1445 [12:08:37] <FinalX> For wheezy you need to run 3.2.96-3, for
stretch it's 4.9.65-3+deb9u2.
1446 [12:09:09] <FinalX> (and for sid 4.14.12-2)
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1475 [12:25:19] <f4cl3y> babilen: I have 'Candidate:
4.9.30-2+deb9u5'
1476 [12:25:32] <f4cl3y> FinalX: I have the secuirty part enabled.
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1478 [12:27:10] <f4cl3y> According to that tracker the patched
version is 4.9.65-3+deb9u2
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1480 [12:27:19] <FinalX> Correct
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1482 [12:27:54] <FinalX> whl-host1 :: ~ » apt-cache policy
linux-image-4.9.0-5-amd64
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1484 [12:27:59] <FinalX> Installed: 4.9.65-3+deb9u2
1485 [12:28:23] <FinalX> and that comes from: deb
replaced-url
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1490 [12:30:56] <NetTerminalGene> wow. wayland on gnome so smooth
1491 [12:31:04] <NetTerminalGene> but there are bugs :/
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1495 [12:31:46] <FinalX> afaik it's only out for testing.. so
bound to be bugs, yeah :)
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1498 [12:32:45] <babilen> f4cl3y: It would help if you could paste
the output of both commands
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1500 [12:33:23] <babilen> "apt policy
linux-image-4.9.0-5-amd64" also
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1503 [12:34:22] <f4cl3y> FinalX: have the correct one after
installing 4.9.0-5 I had the 4.9.0-3, why isn't the upgrade
done automatically?
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1508 [12:35:48] <FinalX> hum, that's for you to figure out.
Debian does no automatic updates by default, you have to enable it
with things like unattended-upgrades. Plus, with kernels, you'd
have to reboot anyway and that might not be convenient to do
automatically. (if it is, you can also tell unattended-upgrades to
do so).
1509 [12:36:22] <FinalX> Updating automatically can introduce
problems.
1510 [12:36:35] <NetTerminalGene> will wayland be default on
debian buster?
1511 [12:36:52] <FinalX> For instance, not long ago, our entire
webhosting cluster got rebooted automatically with a new kernel
security update, but Debian messed up with the kernel and the entire
platform was down with kernel panics afterwards.
1512 [12:37:05] <FinalX> (never happened before tbh)
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1514 [12:37:29] <f4cl3y> FinalX: I see, thank you :)
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1548 [12:56:40] <anexit> Hey all, I'm keep getting packet
write wait in debian. Oddly enough I did a fresh install on another
workstation and it works fine. I've removed openssh from this
debian box and reinstall but in vein.
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1550 [12:57:08] <anexit> My only thought is too just reinstall the
OS but that seems silly
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1553 [13:02:09] <babilen> f4cl3y: You might want to install a
suitable kernel metapackage such as linux-image-amd64
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1555 [13:02:42] <babilen> (they might trail behind a little bit
though)
1556 [13:02:50] <babilen> judd: depends linux-image-amd64
1557 [13:02:51] <judd> Package linux-image-amd64 in stretch/amd64
-- depends: linux-image-4.9.0-4-amd64.
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1559 [13:03:10] <babilen> That dependency will be upgraded in due
course. Right now you'd have to explicitly install the -5-
package.
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1561 [13:03:45] <babilen> It's a good idea to have a
metapackage installed if you like to see automatic kernel upgrades
from one ABI version to another
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1570 [13:12:25] <MMP> Question: FGLRX on Debian 9 = impossible? I
need FGLRX for backlight support >_>
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1573 [13:13:37] <flux242> hi, how would one blacklist a driver
which is not loaded? I mean I see this by loading
replaced-url
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1586 [13:19:53] <towo^work> MMP, fglrx is dead
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1590 [13:20:33] <MMP> Well, RIP.... what about amdgpu or
something?
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1596 [13:21:19] <towo^work> MMP, you want radeon, amdgpu would
never work, if your card was working with fglrx
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1598 [13:21:34] <towo^work> and for radeon, you need
firmware-linux-nonfree
1599 [13:21:53] <MMP> The open source driver? Yeah that
doesn't work
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1609 [13:23:29] <towo^work> MMP, is that firmware installed?
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1615 [13:23:33] <MMP> That's the problem because on Deb9,
only the open source driver is availble
1616 [13:23:38] <MMP> Oh yes it is
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1623 [13:24:27] <MMP> Everything works, it's just that the
backlight is broken and so are all FN keys. (And video playback is
garbage)
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1645 [13:33:37] <Brigo> MMP you can get non free drivers from
non-free repository.
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1647 [13:34:39] <MMP> Which one do you mean? If it's FGLRX
then it's simply a 404
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1653 [13:37:45] <konimex> amdgpu-pro?
1654 [13:38:13] <towo^work> for a gpu, which formaly was running
with fglrx?
1655 [13:38:25] <towo^work> i don't think, that would work
1656 [13:38:46] <towo^work> and btw, amdgpu-pro is not in debian
1657 [13:38:53] <MMP> This is a HP 15 laptop with R2 graphics.
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1659 [13:39:10] <MMP> And yeah I knew that, I tried to find that
package, can't seem to find it
1660 [13:39:35] <towo^work> lspci | egrep -i
"vga|3d|display"
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1662 [13:40:10] <MMP> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced
Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R2 Graphics]
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1669 [13:42:28] <optraz> how do i upgrade cuda version in debian?
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1672 [13:44:16] <Brigo> optraz, apt upgrade should upgrade it to
the las available version.
1673 [13:44:34] <Brigo> optraz, what vesion do you need and what
debian version are you using?
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1676 [13:45:24] <optraz> nvcc --version show 8.0 and i need
minimum 9.0
1677 [13:45:37] <optraz> Brigo: ^^
1678 [13:46:04] <gpunk> what debian version are you using? :)
1679 [13:46:19] <optraz> testing/buster
1680 [13:46:37] <gpunk> ,v nvcc
1681 [13:46:38] <judd> No package named 'nvcc' was found
in amd64.
1682 [13:46:48] <gpunk> ,v cuda
1683 [13:46:49] <judd> No package named 'cuda' was found
in amd64.
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1685 [13:46:59] <Brigo> ,v libcuda1
1686 [13:47:00] <judd> Package: libcuda1 on amd64 --
wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free:
340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.102-1;
jessie-backports/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free:
375.82-1~deb9u1; stretch-backports/non-free: 384.98-3~bpo9+1;
buster/non-free: 384.98-3; sid/non-free: 384.111-1;
experimental/non-free: 387.34-2
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1688 [13:47:22] <Brigo> not very verbose.
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1694 [13:49:03] <optraz> Brigo: yes, current installed ii
libcuda1:amd64 384.98-3
1695 [13:49:09] <Brigo> optraz, you have to figure out what
version of nvidia driver ships the cuda version 9
1696 [13:49:16] <optraz> do u know when will 9.0 released to
debian repositoroy?
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1700 [13:50:01] <gpunk> ,v nvidia-cuda-toolkit
1701 [13:50:02] <judd> Package: nvidia-cuda-toolkit on amd64 --
wheezy/non-free: 4.2.9-2; wheezy-backports/non-free:
5.5.22-6~bpo70+2; jessie/non-free: 6.0.37-5;
jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free:
8.0.44-4; buster/non-free: 8.0.61-3; sid/non-free: 8.0.61-3;
experimental/non-free: 9.0.176-1
1702 [13:50:13] <gpunk> it is in exp ...
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1705 [13:51:20] <Brigo> optraz, then you will need to wait still
it is ready for use, or you can try to install it from experimental,
not recomended, at all.
1706 [13:51:39] <optraz> hmm
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1709 [13:53:17] <optraz> Brigo: do they have estimate when
unstable will release to testing?
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1712 [13:53:55] <Brigo> optraz, 5 days if no big bugs show up.
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1714 [13:54:02] <optraz> 5 days?! where u see that?
1715 [13:54:03] <Brigo> automaticaly, i mean
1716 [13:54:16] <Brigo> it is how it works.
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1719 [13:54:42] <gpunk> 5 days, I doubt it
1720 [13:55:08] <Brigo> you upload a pacakge to unstable and it
get in 5 days to testing if there is no issue.
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1724 [13:56:24] <Brigo> The package has been in
"unstable" at least for 2-10 days (depending on the
urgency of the upload).
1725 [13:56:25] <optraz> so is there any estimate ?
1726 [13:56:52] <optraz> where do u see the detail , Brigo
1727 [13:56:54] <Brigo> if the package were is unstable yes, but
it is in experimental
1728 [13:57:15] <Brigo> a very secretive page only for very wise
users:
replaced-url
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1730 [13:58:12] <Brigo> experimental is for, you know, experiments
and you can't tell the time the package will be there, even the
maintainers can't tell.
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1732 [13:58:44] <optraz> Brigo: how do i up the urgency? :D
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1737 [14:00:46] <Brigo> you can try experimental packages, check
the bugs firs, though.
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1739 [14:01:52] <Brigo> optraz, top secret too:
replaced-url
1740 [14:01:54] <optraz> how do i upgrade to 9.0 and reset back to
where i am now if i found a problem?
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1742 [14:02:22] <Brigo> optraz, keep the list of package you have
now and the list you are going to install.
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1745 [14:02:39] <gpunk> it is a oneway ticket man
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1747 [14:02:41] <gpunk> lol
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1749 [14:03:01] <optraz> dpkg -l > before; apt-get -t
experimental install nvidia-cuda-toolkit ; dpkg -l > after; ?
1750 [14:03:01] <dpkg> ii > before; apt-get -t experimental
install nvidia-cuda-toolkit ; dpkg -l > after; 2.1-11.3
optraz's private stamp collection
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1753 [14:03:18] <Brigo> there is no warrant
1754 [14:03:28] <optraz> ah crap
1755 [14:03:29] <optraz> lol
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1760 [14:04:19] <optraz> if and only if i can up the urgency :D
1761 [14:04:23] <optraz> like a +1 button
1762 [14:04:24] <optraz> haha
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1765 [14:06:08] <optraz> thanks Brigo
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1772 [14:06:49] <gpunk> wlc
1773 [14:08:34] <ashka> hi, I'm trying to upgrade a jessie
server to linux 4.9 from backports, but it freezes while booting
with this weird screen:
replaced-url
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1775 [14:09:15] <gpunk> what video card do you have?
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1779 [14:10:33] <ashka> gpunk: embedded server video, I do not
have the exact one at the moment
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1783 [14:11:02] <gpunk> you seem like loading a DE, right ? (kde
or gnome...)
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1786 [14:11:32] <ashka> no, there is no graphical environment
1787 [14:11:51] <gpunk> why do I see a mouse cursor ? bottom right
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1789 [14:12:51] <ashka> gpunk: this is from my workstation, I have
connected to the server's display remotely
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1791 [14:13:07] <gpunk> oh ok
1792 [14:14:31] <gpunk> without the make model of your video card,
i cant help ; but what you can do
1793 [14:14:49] <gpunk> is get into grub menu and disable loading
the graphics
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1798 [14:18:29] <jdennis1> So php.net says they are ending
security support for PHP 7.0 on 12/3/2018. What does that mean for
the PHP 7 package in debian stable? I know buster won't be out
by then. Will a PHP 7.1 package become available in stretch that
won't require a backport?
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1803 [14:20:20] <FinalX> jdennis1: Debian security team will
backport security fixes and important bugfixes.
1804 [14:20:32] <ashka> gpunk: okay, well it does boot with
nomodeset. I'll have to find a more permanent solution but in
the mean time it'll work. thanks!
1805 [14:20:34] <FinalX> And no, you will not suddenly see a
higher major version of PHP.
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1807 [14:20:55] <gpunk_> :)
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1812 [14:22:11] <gpunk> ashka modify: /etc/defaut/grub and run
update-grub ...
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1818 [14:24:06] <Iridos> ashka, ah, good… :) I was going to
suggest something along those lines, but couldn't find the
exact name of the option
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1821 [14:24:57] <jdennis1> FinalX: thank you for your response
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1823 [14:25:08] <f4cl3y> babilen: Thank you :)
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1838 [14:31:42] <ashka> gpunk: btw, this is the gpu
replaced-url
1839 [14:32:16] <gpunk> oh thats old :)
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1846 [14:36:13] <ashka> gpunk: oddly it doesn't seem to be
related, just did the same update on another server that has the
same vga card and it boots fine
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1849 [14:36:37] <gpunk> so the that card is difonctional
1850 [14:36:52] <gpunk> watch it , you may want to change the
motherboard
1851 [14:37:33] <ashka> yeah I'll keep an eye on it, thanks
1852 [14:38:29] <kale> i have some bad hardware, but also having
trouble finding what hardware it is. The result is that the machine
crashes or btrfs is inconsistent after copying a large number of
files. i ran memtest86 for 2 days and smartctl on all disks. but
that did not find anything. what tools can i use to go further?
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1858 [14:39:44] <gpunk> change the memory sticks for a test
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1866 [14:42:07] <kale> what about voltage, is there a way i can
watch the voltage?
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1868 [14:42:50] <gpunk> oscilloscope / multimeter ?
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1873 [14:44:41] <kale> readout from the system itself, i know that
it can be watched in the BIOS
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1875 [14:45:15] <gpunk> install sensord or the or the like
1876 [14:45:28] <gpunk> thn you got applets to watch it
1877 [14:45:45] <gpunk> package lm-sensors i think
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1887 [14:50:29] <kale> from the sensors i can read the voltage is
pretty much stable. but i have detached my cupholder. so there is a
small difference. Will try with other RAM modules if this test fails
too.
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1889 [14:51:09] <gpunk> ok
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1952 [15:28:39] <epigramx> what was the procedure again to debug
apt-get install conflicts?
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1955 [15:30:13] <epigramx> trying to get libgstreamer1.0-dev:i386
on sid and it depends on an uninstallable file which I bet might be
normal but I wonder if I miss something.
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1957 [15:30:48] <gpunk> so where is the conflict?
1958 [15:31:03] <epigramx> not strictly conflict, bad choice of
words.
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1962 [15:31:29] <epigramx> it wants gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0:i386 but
it can't install it.
1963 [15:31:57] <unreturned> Hello! Please, tell, Debian Installer
support install via VNC? Like
replaced-url
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1965 [15:32:18] <epigramx> hrm, if I do try to install that
manually it tries to uninstall gnome
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1967 [15:32:57] <petn-randall> unreturned: No, however you can use
SSH to continue the installation.
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1970 [15:34:50] <unreturned> petn-randall, Thanks
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1974 [15:37:09] <epigramx> anyone got a method that does
"uninstall packages you no longer have the repo in apt
sources"?
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1977 [15:38:13] <petn-randall> epigramx: If you're running
sid, try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net.
1978 [15:38:17] <petn-randall> !debian-next
1979 [15:38:17] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1982 [15:39:52] <jelly> !obsolete
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1984 [15:39:52] <dpkg> If you remove a repository from your
sources.list (e.g. removing <dmm>), then you should check what
packages you have installed from the other repository. Synaptic and
aptitude have a "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages"
list. Or, "aptitude search ~o". Note this doesn't
include packages that exist in the repo at a different version to
the one you have installed; see <not available> <list
repositories>.
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1997 [15:46:15] <turlando> Hello everyone
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2001 [15:46:40] <epigramx> I guess this caveat only means you
should upgrade or/and dist-upgrade before, I hope it's not more
cryptic "Note this doesn't include packages that exist in
the repo at a different version to the one you have installed"
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2003 [15:46:55] <turlando> I'm trying to find the source for
the Debian Amazon Machine Images but I couldn't find them
2004 [15:47:04] <turlando> Any pointer?
2005 [15:48:54] <tiny> How do I setup locales in FAI
noninteractively.
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2009 [15:49:12] <tiny> for boxes that will get installed with FAI
that is.
2010 [15:49:32] <tiny> I have to manualy "dpkg-reconfigure
locale" after
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2015 [15:51:26] <tiny> blah ... found a typo in config ... prolly
my fault
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2056 [16:13:38] <fti7> Guys, which is the real Kernel Version for
wheezy with the Meltdown patch? on the Security tracker it says
3.2.96-3, but i get only 3.2.96-2.
2057 [16:14:00] <fti7>
replaced-url
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2059 [16:16:47] <petn-randall> fti7: That usually means that the
updated packages is making its way into the repo, but isn't
available everywhere yet.
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2062 [16:19:11] <fti7> ah ok, thx for the info
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2066 [16:20:36] <petn-randall> fti7: I'd wait 6 hours and
check if it available again.
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2069 [16:21:38] <jelly> security.debian.org mirrors aren't on
a 6 hour sync, are they?
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2072 [16:23:15] <petn-randall> Was just a arbitrary number, I
don't really know how s.d.o is handled.
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2118 [16:44:58] <Smigwell> !signupnick JohnML
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2124 [16:47:52] <wpostma> I'm having trouble resetting and
logging into the debian wiki. It's saying "Invalid
username or password" after each login attempt, even though I
just reset my password and I'm entering it properly.
2125 [16:48:18] <wpostma> I wanted to contribute some edits to the
wiki but seem unable to.
2126 [16:48:19] <gpunk> try by: copy/paste
2127 [16:48:46] <somiaj> wpostma: did you just create an account
or have you had one?
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2129 [16:49:38] <wpostma> somiaj: Its an old one. username wpostma
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2131 [16:50:42] <somiaj> wpostma: then unsure what the issue is. I
just recall some issue creating new accounts. You may have to email
one of the wiki matainers
2132 [16:50:54] <wpostma> ok. thanks.
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2186 [17:13:18] <kai_w> I can't get unix extensions (stat,
chmod, etc) working on my samba server. smb.conf has "unix
extensions = yes" in [global].
2187 [17:13:27] <kai_w> Error is "Server doesn't support
UNIX CIFS calls." from smbclient
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2189 [17:13:36] <kai_w> any ideas on what I may have missed?
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2216 [17:24:32] <Joker_ian> hey guys
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2218 [17:26:35] <wpostma> kai_w: you restarted samba?
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2280 [17:43:59] <moldy> hi
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2289 [17:45:47] <CannedSp1nach> what's the normal way to use
one of these hosted fixes?
replaced-url
2290 [17:45:51] <CannedSp1nach> just trying to fix a bug
2291 [17:46:33] <moldy> how do i best check if i have the right
kernel version with the latest patches installed?
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2293 [17:47:13] <moldy> the DSA notification email mentions
version "4.9.65-3+deb9u2". that seems to be the source
package version, i am not sure how to compare this against my
installed kernel.
2294 [17:47:33] <greycat> moldy: uname -a
2295 [17:48:12] <greycat> In stretch, the most recent patched
kernels have a whole new ABI. So it'll be 4.9.0-5-amd64 instead
of 4.9.0-4-amd64 or earlier.
2296 [17:48:19] <moldy> greycat: 4.9.0-4-amd64
2297 [17:48:27] <greycat> then you are not on the latest stable
patched kernel yet
2298 [17:48:44] <moldy> greycat: how would the output look if i
was? 4.9.65-something?
2299 [17:48:47] <greycat> You might have installed it but not yet
rebooted. Or it might not be installed at all.
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2302 [17:49:02] <greycat> wooledg:~$ uname -a
2303 [17:49:02] <greycat> Linux wooledg 4.9.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP
Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 (2018-01-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux
2304 [17:49:17] <cybrNaut> !tell cybrNaut about ssb
2305 [17:49:22] <cybrNaut> ,v okular
2306 [17:49:24] <judd> Package: okular on amd64 -- wheezy:
4:4.8.4-3+b1; jessie: 4:4.14.2-2; stretch: 4:16.08.2-1+b1; buster:
4:17.08.3-2; sid: 4:17.08.3-2
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2308 [17:50:04] <moldy> greycat: ok, thanks. i was looking at
/boot to determine wether i am just missing a reboot, but could not
see how to match the versions there against the source package.
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2312 [17:50:26] <greycat> "ls /boot" is useful to see if
the kernel is installed and you just haven't rebooted yet.
2313 [17:50:51] <greycat> if there's both
vmlinuz-4.9.0-4-amd64 AND vmlinuz-4.9.0-5-amd64 then it's
installed and you just need to reboot
2314 [17:50:53] <moldy> greycat: yeah, but it isn't obvious
that vmlinuz-4.9.0-5-amd64 is the right version :)
2315 [17:51:05] <greycat> I have been telling you that it is.
2316 [17:51:21] <moldy> greycat: yes, thank you. i do wonder how
to solve this in general though, not just in this specific instance.
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2318 [17:51:39] <cybrNaut> would ",v okular" show
backport versions if there were any?
2319 [17:51:45] <greycat> yes
2320 [17:52:04] <cybrNaut> thanks
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2322 [17:52:40] <petn-randall> moldy: The more general approach
would be to run `dpkg -l 'linux-image*'` and check the
version number.
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2324 [17:52:44] <moldy> for example, i may want to write a script
to run against a bunch of servers to see check if they are
vulnerable. i guess i could check `uname -v`
2325 [17:52:46] <JethroTux> hello, I'm getting "The
following packages have been kept back" with linux-image-amd64
package while updating the system. Should I give a dist-upgrade or
leave it? I'm running debian jessie, thanks
2326 [17:53:13] <moldy> petn-randall: ahh, that is helpful.
thanks!
2327 [17:53:18] <greycat> moldy: Yes, because it's a kernel,
just installing is NOT enough -- you also have to reboot. So you
would need to check uname's output to see whether it has
actually booted the new kernel.
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2329 [17:53:48] <cybrNaut> "okular -v" gives
"0.26.1", but "aptitude show okular" gives
version "4:16.08.2-1+b1".. why the difference? is it
0.26.1 that I should put on upstream bug reports?
2330 [17:53:52] <moldy> greycat: yup, i am aware of that :) both
checking wether the kernel is installed on disk and checking wether
the system is actually running it is useful.
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2336 [17:55:49] <greycat> I don't know anything about okular
or why it has two different version numbers.
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2338 [17:55:58] <JethroTux> anybody?
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2340 [17:56:10] <greycat> JethroTux: use dist-upgrade
2341 [17:56:50] <JethroTux> greycat, is it safe? I'd rather
not break anything
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2343 [17:57:07] <greycat> If you're running stable,
oldstable, or oldoldstable, it should be safe.
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2359 [18:02:21] <CannedSpinach> this error is infuriating me
because it is interfering with my ability to even apt-get upgrade. I
can't even apt-get remove samba without seeing this same error
repeatedly. any help would be appreciated.
2360 [18:02:25] <CannedSpinach>
replaced-url
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2362 [18:02:44] <CannedSpinach> I tried systemctl disable
samba-ac-dc.service and this doesn't seem to have any effect
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2365 [18:03:15] <CannedSpinach> I thought this problem was just
making Samba unusable but it is actually causing problems for the
whole machine.
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2372 [18:06:33] <CannedSpinach> I don't know why apt-get
won't even let me remove Samba without consequently trying to
set up Samba
2373 [18:06:36] <CannedSpinach> doesn't make any sense
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2381 [18:09:18] <jhutchins_wk> CannedSpinach: Do you suppose
dpkg-reconfigure samba might fix it?
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2383 [18:10:12] <CannedSpinach> jhutchins_wk: it gives the error
that Samba is broken or not fully installed
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2392 [18:12:27] <CannedSpinach> well at least I can remove Samba
with dpkg -r
2393 [18:12:39] <CannedSpinach> maybe that will at least let me
get updates without receiving errors
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2395 [18:14:15] <CannedSpinach> hey, at least I can get upgrades
again and use apt-get normally
2396 [18:14:19] <CannedSpinach> that's a plus
2397 [18:14:27] <CannedSpinach> now it's just a matter of
being able to use Samba properly
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2417 [18:23:01] <armin> hi, my sshd refuses to start up because
/run/sshd is not present at startup time. manually creating that
directory using mkdir -p will let sshd start again. anyone
experienced that before?
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2431 [18:34:07] <jhutchins_wk> CannedSpinach: Which release are
you on?
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2433 [18:34:53] <eck> how come my debian installation does not
have a man page for dc(1) ?
2434 [18:35:03] <eck> i have manpages and manpages-dev installed
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2437 [18:36:09] <eck> oh wait, PEBCAK
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2439 [18:36:16] <eck> i assumed dc was installed by coreutils and
it's not
2440 [18:36:21] <kai_w> wpostma: yep, restarted samba
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2443 [18:37:08] <eck> armin: in generally the /run directories
should be created by systemd when you launch a service using
systemctl
2444 [18:37:26] <eck> if you are invoking sshd directly you may
run into problems
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2454 [18:40:09] <kion> How do I tell my laptop what to do
(hibernate,suspend,shutdown) when I close the lid?
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2457 [18:40:52] <V7> Is it possible to save to a variable output
from ls without showing error if file|folder might doesn't
exist ?
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2467 [18:46:52] <jelly> V7: using output of ls is usually not an
optimal solution. What are you trying to accomplish really?
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2470 [18:47:24] <jelly> !goal
2471 [18:47:24] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the
solution is.
2472 [18:48:39] <V7> jelly: I'm trying to get an owner or
path in script
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2474 [18:49:34] <greycat> Fuckikng crossposter.
2475 [18:49:55] <greycat> He's bothering #Bash with this too.
It's an X-Y problem and he is a stubborn jackass who will not
cough up the X.
2476 [18:50:13] <V7> So yup
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2478 [18:50:25] <greycat> So *plonk*
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2481 [18:50:34] <V7> cause they're asking why I want to get
an owner of file
2482 [18:50:42] <V7> that's not the question
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2486 [18:51:06] <V7> So why I shouldn't ask the same question
separately on different channels ?
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2489 [18:52:17] <pos> ub still haven't pushed kernel updates,
what is this...
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2491 [18:53:19] <petn-randall> !tell V7 -about crosspost
2492 [18:54:15] <V7> ... crosspost ... oh damn ...
2493 [18:54:42] <debcur5616> Guys I setup a vsftpd server with
virtual users following one of the guides i found around
2494 [18:55:11] <debcur5616> However I match this error: 500 OOPS:
vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
2495 [18:55:52] <debcur5616> This is understandeable... indeed i
don't want a writable chroot but at least the user should be
able to write inside a dir..
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2497 [18:56:11] <debcur5616> Because i want each user being able
to write at least inside it's folder :\
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2499 [18:56:55] <greycat> So create a writable subdirectory.
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2501 [18:57:26] <debcur5616> mmh the point is that my users are
dumb.. can't i allow users to write directly inside that root
folder ?
2502 [18:57:47] <V7> greycat: ignored
2503 [18:58:04] <oo_miguel> I just started using slrn to follow
some usenet groups and wonder why the count of unread articles is
significantly lower than the number of total articles for some
groups, even though I have not read anything yet..
2504 [18:58:25] <V7> Btw. The script doesn't install
anything. It doesn't work with any packages. It just checks the
already configured settings and files.
2505 [18:58:26] <debcur5616> ftp folder for user1 is basically
/var/ftp/user1
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2507 [18:59:06] <debcur5616> so is already a folder only for the
user1, it's specific configuration is local_root=/var/ftp/user1
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2544 [19:10:13] <annadane> attention: jessie has now been patched
for meltdown
2545 [19:10:22] <V7> Btw the answer was to check the existence of
file|path and they try to check it's permissions
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2593 [19:26:35] <Janni> Hello there.
2594 [19:27:17] <Janni> Does anybody know a version of the
"watch" command which is scrollable?
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2596 [19:27:38] <Iridos> how'd that work
2597 [19:27:57] <Janni> It would be great to interactively looking
at "git diff" while revising a commit.
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2600 [19:28:11] <Janni> Iridos: concerning the UI or the
implementation?
2601 [19:28:45] <Iridos> this isn't really what you can do in
a terminal …
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2604 [19:29:09] <Iridos> you can always do while sleep 2; do
somecommand ; done
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2606 [19:29:19] <Epx998> On TFTP, if I fetch a squashfs, does
fetch only support IP addresses and not hostnames?
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2608 [19:29:57] <Janni> Iridos: Sure you can. watch only has to
keep track of a scroll-position variable which the user can modify
using the arrow keys, then apply a "tail" to its command.
2609 [19:30:39] <CannedSpinach> jhutchin1_wk: sorry I was AFK.
I'm on release 9.
2610 [19:30:50] <Janni>
replaced-url
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2614 [19:32:09] <Iridos> well… most people there also
mention a regular while loop
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2619 [19:34:01] <Iridos> but - I think depending on the terminal -
the constant new input kind of breaks scrolling
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2621 [19:35:42] <Iridos> but in general… the thing watch
does, is to present the changing output and keep terminal contents
fixed… so watch is all that that a normal loop is not
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2627 [19:37:47] <cybrNaut> oo_miguel: the general practice with
usenet is to mark everything as "read" even if you've
not read everything, just to highlight new messages coming in. You
have little hope of reading every single post in most newsgroups.
SLRN probably marked all as /read/ at one point, so you're
looking at a recent retrieval
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2631 [19:38:58] <pragomer> rsync --delete tells me that there is
no space left on the device. data is 1600gb, backup-partition is
1800gb. is it possible that rsync tries first to copy the files and
delete the non-existent at the end of the process??
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2634 [19:39:23] <CannedSpinach> reposting since I still
haven't gotten a working answer. any help would be appreciated.
replaced-url
2635 [19:39:24] <oo_miguel> cybrNaut: hmmm. Does this still hold
true, even if I tell slrn to "uncatchup" % Mark all
artilces as unread for a specific group?
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2637 [19:39:35] <greycat> pragomer: yes.
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2639 [19:39:52] <pragomer> omg this would explain everything :-)
2640 [19:40:07] <oo_miguel> ... and Anyway I do not understand
what the total number of articles in a newsgroup reflects?
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2642 [19:40:25] <pragomer> but how could I solve it? I cannot
delete everything everytime.. can i first delete the the files there
are no longer existent and then copy the newer ones??
2643 [19:40:35] <petn-randall> pragomer: Check the man page
though, there are options for it to work differently (at the cost of
losing data on the receiving side if not completed)
2644 [19:40:38] <greycat> pragomer: sounds like a question for
#rsync
2645 [19:40:51] <greycat> (or yes, the multi-thousand-line man
page)
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2648 [19:41:40] <pragomer> ok... i got it.. the paramater,
according to manpage is --delete-before
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2650 [19:41:47] <pragomer> such simple.. thank you :-) :-)
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2654 [19:42:36] <pragomer> jippie :-)
2655 [19:42:38] <zbert> Hi everyone - i've just build a lot
of packages (nvidia-driver 390) from svn ...how i solve the
depedencies between the packages when installing via apt?
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2659 [19:43:37] <petn-randall> zbert: via apt? apt does that for
you.
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2661 [19:43:57] <petn-randall> zbert: Or are you trying to install
them via dpkg -i?
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2664 [19:44:17] <zbert> oh, sry. - via dpkg -i (=
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2670 [19:45:40] <Iridos> you can do apt-get -f install or aptitude
-f install afterwards and apt will try to fix/repair the problem
created by your added packages
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2674 [19:46:35] <Iridos> try apt-get first, it is the simpler
program… aptitude will ask you if you want to accept a
solution, so you can have it look for different options if it tries
to fix things by removing your just-installed packages
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2677 [19:47:12] <Iridos> if that doesn't work, you probably
created a situation that cannot be resolved from the repos you have
available
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2679 [19:47:15] <NetTerminalGene> in debian stretch, map app opens
late. what is the problem?
2680 [19:48:21] <armin> eck: i did try to start it using systemd,
actually
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2694 [19:52:12] <zbert> Iridos: apt-get -f install doesn't
work - it just wants to remove the manual installed package
...should i try to resolve the problem by installing the packages
manually ...cause: the packages are just there - but apt seems to
know nothing about the builded packages.
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2700 [19:54:15] <Iridos> don't just read the first 5 words I
wrote?
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2702 [19:54:20] <Iridos> Time for me togo.
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2780 [20:27:02] <tunasalad> would anyone suggest a value oriented
VPS provider supporting Debian out of the box? Apart from Digital
Ocean/AWS.
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2782 [20:27:17] <Adran> tunasalad: linode, vultr etc etc
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2791 [20:29:51] <tunasalad> Adran: vultr is hardly value oriented,
compared to DO. A 100GB SSD instance is $40/m while basically the
same is hardly over $20 at D-O.
2792 [20:30:13] <tunasalad> I can't see if I can make a
custom plan
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2795 [20:31:06] <Adran> 100GB SSD is not $20 a DO
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2799 [20:31:53] <tunasalad> from what I remember when I connected
an additional 100GB that was like $5 monthly.
2800 [20:32:01] <tunasalad> likely wasn't SSD though.
2801 [20:33:05] <tunasalad> anyway, I need something like 2
cores/4GB ram/100GB+ HDD/SSD/East Coast
2802 [20:33:23] <tunasalad> 1TB transfer would be more than okay.
2803 [20:33:58] <tunasalad> anything reputable that offers
something like that at, say, $20/m?
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2806 [20:34:56] <tunasalad> and, obviously, Debian.
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2858 [20:59:56] <DestinyOne> d
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2862 [21:02:10] <DestinyOne> hi
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2864 [21:02:23] <annadane> DestinyOne, hi
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2871 [21:04:08] <DestinyOne> what is this?
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2873 [21:04:25] <greycat> A preposition, I believed.
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2875 [21:04:47] <jelly> !irc
2876 [21:04:47] <dpkg> IRC is Internet Relay Chat, the means to
provide #debian to its patrons. Debian IRC channels are listed at
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2879 [21:04:57] <jelly> !debian
2880 [21:04:57] <dpkg> i heard debian is
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2884 [21:05:34] <greycat> Ah, wrong part of speech. Wiktionary
calls it a "pronoun" in one section, and a
"determiner" in another.
2885 [21:05:36] <docmax> how can i get debian on mips 34k machine?
2886 [21:05:53] <jelly> DestinyOne: you're connected to a
tech support oriented chat channel for a particular linux-based OS.
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2888 [21:06:33] <annadane> there's 3 different mips arches,
i'm not sure what the answer is
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2890 [21:07:43] <jelly> is mips64el supported yet?
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2895 [21:08:30] <jelly> not in stretch
2896 [21:08:32] <jelly> !mips
2897 [21:08:32] <dpkg> MIPS is a <RISC> architecture (replaced-url
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2902 [21:09:31] <fishcooker> how to solve the suspending/sleep
issue ... ?
2903 [21:09:31] <annadane> mips64el is listed in the net install
options
2904 [21:09:44] <annadane> i just didn't know whether that
particular machine was mips64el
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2906 [21:10:02] <jelly> oh, i'm blind
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2909 [21:10:19] <jelly>
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2910 [21:10:23] <docmax> #mipslinux
2911 [21:11:01] <jelly> docmax: there's also a #debian-mips
on irc.oftc.net
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2913 [21:11:07] <annadane> i'm really bad at knowing what
type computer corresponds to what architecture
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2919 [21:12:36] <docmax> jelly: thx, only 2 ppl are in
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2922 [21:12:50] <jelly> different irc server, not here
2923 [21:13:03] <docmax> oh right
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2925 [21:13:07] <jelly> (but that one is also tiny, with 20 or so
people)
2926 [21:13:21] <docmax> i went to #mipslinux
2927 [21:13:32] <jelly> good
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2980 [21:36:55] <fishcooker> 3 days ago was my succesfull
suspending box, after that the solution is i have to shutdown my box
only ... i've tried the stock kernel installed but no luck
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2991 [21:44:33] <V7> Hey all :)
2992 [21:44:49] <V7> Is it possible to get a result from
/usr/share/debconf/fix_db.pl ? I.e. check if it succeded
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2994 [21:45:58] <V7> Is see there a string like: die "exec of
self failed";
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2997 [21:46:44] <somiaj> every program should output an exit code,
if it is 0, things should have ran fine.
2998 [21:47:03] <V7> Yeah, works: if sudo
/usr/share/debconf/fix_db.pl; then echo 1; else echo 2; fi
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3002 [21:48:40] <somiaj> fix_db.pl && echo sucess works
too
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3014 [21:53:55] <capin> afternoon, I just added an entry to
`manpath.config` under `manpath_map` for some extra binaries i added
to the system, how do i update `man` to recognize the new
manpath_map I added to the system?
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3016 [21:54:59] <greycat> If you mean MANPATH_MAP, it just needs
your PATH to contain the directory in question.
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3021 [21:55:44] <greycat> e.g. if you used "MANPATH_MAP
/var/qmail/bin /var/qmai/man" then "man qmail-remote"
should work as long as you have /var/qmail/bin in your PATH. No
other changes necessary.
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3023 [21:55:56] <capin> greycat: the directory containing the bins
is in my PATH as well.
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3026 [21:56:47] <s00x> hey
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3031 [21:58:29] <s00x> my vbox doesnt work and i was suggested to
install install the -devel package for the new kernel
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3033 [21:58:31] <s00x> how can i do that?
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3038 [21:59:57] <somiaj> s00x: the kernel headers are in a package
named linux-headers-<version> where <version> is the
same version as the linux-image package you are using.
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3040 [22:00:14] <s00x> what about the devel?
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3042 [22:00:17] <s00x> what is devel?
3043 [22:00:26] <s00x> like linux-headers-devel-$(uname -r) ?
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3045 [22:00:56] <greycat> -devel is a suffix commonly used by Red
Hat packages
3046 [22:00:57] <towo`> headers are the devel package for the
kernel
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3048 [22:01:22] <r3m> ,v weechat
3049 [22:01:23] <judd> Package: weechat on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.3.8-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 0.3.8-1+deb7u3; wheezy-backports:
0.4.3-2~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.0.1-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1;
jessie-security: 1.0.1-1+deb8u1; jessie: 1.0.1-1+deb8u2;
jessie-backports: 1.6-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.6-1+deb9u2; sid:
1.9-1; buster: 1.9.1-1; sid: 1.9.1-1
3050 [22:01:46] <s00x> towo`: so there's no somethin like
devel kernel for Debian? There's just linux-headers?
3051 [22:01:50] <towo`> so "apt update &&apt install
linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64"
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3053 [22:02:07] <towo`> so "apt update && apt install
linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64" will do all is needed
3054 [22:02:23] <towo`> maybe build-essential has to be installed
too
3055 [22:02:28] <s00x> i even did full dist-upgrade and upgrade
3056 [22:02:35] <towo`> and?
3057 [22:02:41] <somiaj> s00x: yes, linux-headers-<version>
for the kernel you want. towo` gave you the metapackage that pulls
in the most recent kernel in your repos.
3058 [22:02:46] <s00x> and then when vbox problem started to occur
3059 [22:02:57] <towo`> without the kernel- and header
metapackages, no kernel will be updated, nor the headers will
3060 [22:02:58] <somiaj> s00x: what did you upgrade from and to?
3061 [22:03:25] <somiaj> towo`: good point, I keep forgetting abi
changes keep jumping the kernel version in stable.
3062 [22:03:26] <towo`> aha
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3064 [22:03:47] <towo`> oha, from #vbox s00x is using kali
3065 [22:03:56] <towo`> so absolute wrong channel
3066 [22:04:07] <s00x> isn't kali debian based?
3067 [22:04:14] <towo`> it is not debian
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3069 [22:04:27] <towo`> if it would be debian, it would be named
debian and not kali
3070 [22:04:29] <s00x> but it used the same kernel as debian and
same packages?
3071 [22:04:33] <towo`> no
3072 [22:04:45] <towo`> in debian there is no kernel with the
string kali in it
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3074 [22:05:11] <somiaj> s00x: kali takes packages from debian and
changes them. core stuff like kernels are things that are changed.
3075 [22:05:28] <towo`> i like all the people, who think, wow i
install kali and now i'm the greatest hacker on earth without
the need of any clue
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3077 [22:05:46] <somiaj> s00x: and how kali decides to deal with
virtualbox, and its modules maybe different than debian, so we
don't want to guess what changes have happened, and suggest you
go use kali support for your issue.
3078 [22:05:51] <somiaj> !kali
3079 [22:05:51] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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3081 [22:06:50] <s00x> ok, thanks
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3106 [22:18:21] <folatt> What's the equivalent of
'iwconfig wlan0 channel auto' for iw?
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3114 [22:22:44] <somiaj>
replaced-url
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3117 [22:22:55] <somiaj> though isn't the channel usually set
by the ap?
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3119 [22:23:50] <somiaj> seems you can do something like iw dev
wlan0 set channel ....
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3166 [22:47:54] <V7> Is okay so after lm-sensors reinstallation
there's no pwmconfig ?
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3194 [23:02:51] <herpderp> Hi. I am connected to my debian server
with putty. I started a programm and I cant do much anymore until
it's finished. What's the proper/right way to get a second
bash/terminal in which I can still work?
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3197 [23:05:06] <mutante> herpderp: there are different ways, one
is to use "&" at the end of the commandline to send it
to background and use "fg" to get back to foreground, and
"jobs" to see what's going on. but even nicer is
install "screen" or "tmux" and checkout a
tutorial how to use. it's like having several virtual screens
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3199 [23:05:34] <herpderp> thanks, I'll do that.
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3201 [23:08:01] <mutante> herpderp: apt-get install screen , type
'screen' (read the stuff, hit enter) ; get a new console,
run something that you wanted to run.. Ctrl+A D to get back to your
original shell while progam is still running.. come back later..
type "screen -x" to get back to where program ran.
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3204 [23:09:10] <herpderp> easy, thanks.
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3206 [23:09:51] <jorb> blah, how to enable lvm2 service in
stretch? am i missing something?
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3210 [23:13:14] <TacticReplicatio> Hi all o/
3211 [23:13:34] <TacticReplicatio> I'm tryingto get started
with LKM
3212 [23:13:46] <TacticReplicatio> got the module skeleton
(init/cleanup)
3213 [23:13:57] <TacticReplicatio> only thing I'm doing so
far is a printk
3214 [23:14:04] <TacticReplicatio> I'm pretty confused
3215 [23:14:30] <TacticReplicatio> got printk("1") on
init and printk("2") on cleanup
3216 [23:14:58] <TacticReplicatio> but "1" and
"2" are displaying at the same time, when I execut the
rmmod
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3219 [23:15:34] <TacticReplicatio> shoulnd't I see
"1" in the dmesg right after the insmod ?
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3226 [23:21:29] <well_laid_lawn> TacticReplicatio: it is probably
buffering text - try adding a loglevel or /n
replaced-url
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3228 [23:22:07] <TacticReplicatio> Actually
3229 [23:22:19] <TacticReplicatio> I just read about the buffer
thing
3230 [23:22:30] <TacticReplicatio> I added a \n at the end of line
3231 [23:22:33] <TacticReplicatio> looks good
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3236 [23:25:30] <well_laid_lawn> well done
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