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0[00:00:00] <LtL> teo_:
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1[00:00:43] <LtL> teo_: you should be using *their*
repositories dude
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6[00:03:52] <teo_> which is the best stable debian version for
now ?
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7[00:04:14] <LtL> teo_: for the n'th time /join #linuxcnc
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9[00:04:29] <LtL> teo_: stretch v9
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10[00:04:40] <teo_> linux cnc it send me here!!
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11[00:05:03] <LtL> teo_: we get a lot of that
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12[00:05:29] <teo_> where can i find this version stretch v9
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15[00:06:21] <jmcnaught> teo_:
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20[00:07:19] <johnkeates> LinuxCNC shouldn't send you here
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21[00:07:50] <sharp15> jhutchins: thanks for the router advice.
i'll probably need it.
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57[00:20:22] <teo_> what is cinnamon gnome kde .......?
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58[00:20:51] <teo_> it work on dual boot ?
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65[00:25:40] <gftg> cinnamon, gnome, kde are some of the most
known desktop environments (some people call them window managers
(there is a gray area in nomenclature)). You can install as many of
them as you wish and select which one you want to use from the login
screen (usually lightdm)... I don't understand how this relates
to dual boot.
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67[00:28:22] <teo_> dual boot windows xp + debian with grab2
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75[00:31:00] <gftg> teo_: So, yes, it works on dual boot. You
select the desktop environment from the login screen, which only
comes up after you selected debian from grub and after a lot of
other debian software has initialized.
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78[00:32:22] <LtL> teo_: with proper disk partitioning, it
does.. yes
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79[00:32:36] <teo_> my laptop is old
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80[00:32:58] <teo_> pentium 4 3.06mhz the system is work ?
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81[00:33:38] <teo_> the wheezly install and this is the same ?
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82[00:33:50] <teo_> little diferent ?
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84[00:34:27] <teo_> the wheezly i know and i dident have
problems
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88[00:37:33] <LtL> teo_: a pentium 4 it will run, but slow
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91[00:37:57] <teo_> for pentium 4 something good ?
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94[00:38:44] <LtL> teo_: pentium 4 is bare minimum but i have
done it, dual booting
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96[00:39:53] <teo_> which version i prefer ?
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98[00:40:33] <teo_> debian 9.1 live i386 ?
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99[00:40:52] <teo_> but who is better ?
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101[00:42:35] <gftg> I probably want a desktop environment that
is light enough for your old machine... I'd recommend to
install debian 9.1 i386, then install xfce (or other light enough
desktop environment). This means that you should probably avoid kde
or gnome.
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102[00:42:50] <gftg> You probably want...
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108[00:44:33] <LtL> avoid live also
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109[00:45:46] <teo_> my old gcard it find ?
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111[00:46:02] <teo_> the debian 9.1 ?
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122[00:51:49] <edju> .join #debian-offtopic
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123[00:51:59] <edju> sorry
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124[00:52:08] <johnkeates> that's off-topic
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125[00:52:16] <johnkeates> i think you should go to
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126[00:52:20] * johnkeates trolls softly
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150[01:06:01] <leoslax> Hello everyone!
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152[01:06:53] <vlt> Hi!
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153[01:07:20] <LtL> johnkeates: apologies i was off-topic i
didn't want teo_ to think i was ignoring him.. if you were
talking to me, try nick prefix next time
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156[01:07:40] <johnkeates> no, I was talking to that other guy
:D
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159[01:08:23] <LtL> johnkeates: hence the nick prefix thingy
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160[01:08:35] <leoslax> I'm looking for some help whit
postfix.
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161[01:08:49] <johnkeates> leoslax: have you tried #postfix? ;-)
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162[01:09:06] <LtL> leoslax: just ask leoslax if you're
running debian.
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163[01:09:25] <johnkeates> no, that's johnkeates
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164[01:09:39] <johnkeates> also, postfix knowns more about
postfix, but when they don't we do
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166[01:10:06] <leoslax> thanks johnkeates
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167[01:10:21] <johnkeates> thanks leoslax
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169[01:10:40] <johnkeates> not sure if i need more coffee or
just need to go to bed
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177[01:16:23] <foul_owl> Hi folks. Went to go create a new
container as usual: sudo lxc-create -n test01 -t debian and I got:
Invalid release stretch, valid ones are: squeeze wheezy jessie sid
The man page for lxc-create has nothing about how to specify the
distro. Thanks!
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189[01:20:24] <CrowX-> I have the following command:
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190[01:20:26] <CrowX-> tar cpf - /some/important/data | ssh
user@destination-machine "tar xpf - -C /some/directory/"
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193[01:20:39] <jmcnaught> foul_owl: Are you using Debian on the
host? Which release? Did you try a command like 'lxc-create -n
test01 -t debian -- --release=stretch'?
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195[01:20:52] <CrowX-> How can I do what this command does,
without extracting the files on the destination-machine, but just
moving the archive there?
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200[01:22:03] <foul_owl> Perfect! Thank you! I didn't see
--release as an option in the man page
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201[01:22:17] <foul_owl> I wonder why the man page doesn't
include that, oh well
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203[01:22:42] <foul_owl> Sorry for the very stupid question
also: why is the double dash necessary?
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206[01:23:36] <jmcnaught> foul_owl: it's a feature of the
template script, not the lxc-create command. Look at
/usr/share/lxc/templates, they're all bash. The double dash is
so lxc-create that the rest of the arguments are for the template
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220[01:26:20] <jmcnaught> CrowX-: something like 'tar
… | ssh user@example.com "cat >
archive.tar"'?
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224[01:26:50] <Y_00> hello
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226[01:27:28] <foul_owl> Ah gotcha! Do the templates have their
own manuals or how would I look up what options the templates can
accept? Thanks!
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228[01:29:10] <jmcnaught> foul_owl: the lxc-create does answer
that question :P search for template-options
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229[01:29:58] <jmcnaught> *lxc-create man page
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273[01:54:44] <tytan> Hello everyone, is there no ifconfig in
Debian 9 anymore?
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275[01:55:56] <eck> tytan: it's in /sbin
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276[01:56:00] <eck> which is not in $PATH by default
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277[01:56:40] <eck> or consider using "ip addr" or a
related ip command
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278[01:56:43] <tytan> was it always like that? why is it like
that?
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279[01:57:00] <eck> that's not a new change, idk
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280[01:57:05] <eck> been like that since i can remember
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281[01:57:13] <eck> it's in $PATH for root
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282[01:57:23] <tytan> I can perform "ip a" easily
though
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284[01:57:56] <jmcnaught> ifconfig has always been in /sbin, but
new for Debian 9 its package (net-tools) is no longer installed by
default
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287[01:58:33] <tytan> jmcnaught: do you know why?
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288[01:58:52] <novilog> Anyone have a suggestion for open source
password managers? There are so many out there, idk where to start.
Would be nice if it did random password gen in addition to
maintaining them
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290[01:59:36] <jmcnaught> tytan: why does /sbin exist, or why
was net-tools deprecated?
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291[01:59:58] <tytan> why was net-tools deprecated =)
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294[02:00:34] <novilog> tytan: You can just install it manually.
That's what I did.
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301[02:01:10] <eck> "head -c 12 /dev/urandom | base64"
and then upload to a github gist
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302[02:01:10] <jmcnaught> tytan: it's mentioned in the
stretch release notes, but this change was announced way back in
2009
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303[02:01:13] <eck> ezpz
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304[02:01:14] <tytan> novilog: I think there is a reason why
it's not installed by default
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307[02:01:46] <tytan> the arch documentations says it's
obsolete
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310[02:02:05] <eck> it's been obsolete for years
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311[02:02:16] <eck> but old habits die hard
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312[02:02:19] <tytan> so what is it replaced with?
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314[02:02:41] <tytan> is there something like "modern
networking" now?
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315[02:02:49] <jmcnaught> tytan: go read the release notes for
stretch and find out this and other things you should know ☺
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317[02:03:27] <eck> it was replaced by ip
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318[02:03:30] <novilog> tytan: In the release notes at
replaced-url
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319[02:03:36] <uxfi> Strech ah
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321[02:03:46] <tytan> lol uxfi you, here?
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322[02:03:55] <uxfi> tytan; yep
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323[02:03:56] <uxfi> why?
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324[02:04:04] <tytan> do you remember me?
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325[02:04:24] <uxfi> sure
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326[02:04:31] <uxfi> I never forget :P
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327[02:04:46] <tytan> uxfi: do you still have your 2011 MBP? =)
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330[02:04:52] <johnkeates> tytan: iproute2 replaced net-tools a
VERY long time ago
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332[02:05:14] <tytan> johnkeates: Thanks, I will try to get some
documentation on that.
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336[02:05:38] <johnkeates> i think it was in Jessie already
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337[02:05:41] <johnkeates> and optionally in squeeze
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338[02:05:56] <johnkeates> i mean, in wheezy
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339[02:06:02] <novilog> johnkeates: It was only flagged as an
optional package with the release of Stretch.
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340[02:06:10] <johnkeates> no, that was net-tools
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341[02:06:16] <johnkeates> i was talking about iproute2
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342[02:06:19] <novilog> Oh
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343[02:06:59] <johnkeates> but yeah, things change and people
get confused
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344[02:07:27] <johnkeates> in a year or so, plenty of
'where did ifconfig go' questions will have been asked to
already have enough answers on google and irc bots
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345[02:07:29] <novilog> It's funny, because Debian updates
are relatively easy to keep track of compared to the rolling release
models of some other distributions... >_>
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347[02:07:34] <johnkeates> yeah
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348[02:07:44] <johnkeates> debian has a good cycle and documents
changes
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349[02:08:01] <johnkeates> instead of just having to read
everything from the package changelogs or upstream somewhere in a
repo
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350[02:08:26] <johnkeates> but i suppose many other
distrubitions just hide that information in their certification
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352[02:08:41] <johnkeates> so you have to buy a RHSA cert to get
to the changes
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353[02:08:57] <johnkeates> (and I say buy because it's
hardly "studying to get a certification")
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354[02:09:08] <johnkeates> aanyway, rant over
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356[02:10:00] <novilog> You're pretty angry for a John
Keates :-P
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358[02:10:21] <novilog> I remember good ol' John being the
sad type.
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359[02:10:28] <tytan> it's interesting to know for me
though
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360[02:10:29] <johnkeates> well, i can be sad and poetic
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361[02:10:41] <eck> wow hating on redhat
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362[02:10:43] <johnkeates> i could write love letters on IRC,
but i'd get kicked for flooding
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363[02:10:44] <eck> tsk tsk
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364[02:10:58] <johnkeates> well, i like red hat for being a paid
driving force in the linux ecosystem
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365[02:11:10] <johnkeates> but i don't like certifications
being taken so seriously
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366[02:11:23] <eck> same
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368[02:12:12] <rjsalts> but standardised testing is a panacea
for all the worlds ills
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369[02:12:13] <johnkeates> i do wonder about some things
sometimes, like Linux HA which has no general base and seems to be
splitered between RH, CluserLabs and SuSE
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370[02:12:23] <johnkeates> standardised testing is a USA thing
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371[02:12:30] <johnkeates> and they seem to be doing it wrong
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373[02:12:57] <johnkeates> every time I see news combining USA
and Education, it's never good news. Was it ever good?
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374[02:13:07] * johnkeates needs to stahp
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375[02:13:52] <tytan> I'm from germany. The level of
education is pretty bad here as well
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377[02:14:00] <novilog> We Americans have always been great at
doing and getting things done. I don't know about academia...
but the general philosophy is, throw enough willpower at it, and it
will be solved.
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378[02:14:14] <rjsalts> I think we've veered into
#debian-offtopic land here
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379[02:14:14] <johnkeates> well, it's not the level,
it's availability
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381[02:14:26] <johnkeates> rjsalts: we did, didn't we
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383[02:15:10] <rjsalts> luckily nobody has a support question
right now
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385[02:15:37] <johnkeates> the IRC gods have mercy
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386[02:15:42] <tytan> I don't think it's too off-topic
though
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387[02:16:02] <johnkeates> I suppose there is a difference
between going to school and getting educated, and not wanting to
school / simply not getting educated because the system isn't
setup for it
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388[02:16:27] <johnkeates> say someone wants to know something
and knows how to educate themselves, they could come here
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391[02:16:39] <johnkeates> and be like "where did ifconfig
go"
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392[02:16:47] <johnkeates> and we'd have the information,
the reasoning etc.
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395[02:17:00] <tytan> yes indeed
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398[02:17:11] <randy1985> is there a way to change a username
that you're logged into?
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399[02:17:16] <johnkeates> that's different from people
simply not wanting to know, and trying to 'power through'
or 'have a chance'
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403[02:17:29] <johnkeates> randy1985: on IRC or on Debian
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404[02:18:34] <johnkeates> I'm currently in The
Netherlands, and a most of the people here can go to any school
without finance preventing them from doing that, all they have to do
is go
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406[02:19:01] <johnkeates> but more than half the population
chooses or is only capable of doing the least and lowest versions
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408[02:19:20] <johnkeates> those are probably also not in
#debian ;-)
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409[02:19:48] <tytan> johnkeates: selfdriven education is not an
option for most people.
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410[02:19:49] <johnkeates> because finding IRC and figuring out
how to use it would be too hard (too much work / too specific / no
instant gratification)
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411[02:20:03] <tytan> Anyways, I'm offline now. reading
aboutiproute2
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412[02:20:08] <johnkeates> ok
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413[02:20:13] <johnkeates> check out the ip manpage too
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414[02:20:17] <randy1985> johnkeates: sorry, on debian
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415[02:20:25] <johnkeates> randy1985: type /nick <new
username>
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416[02:20:53] <randy1985> johnkeates: on debian
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417[02:20:59] <johnkeates> oh yes
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418[02:21:05] * johnkeates slaps himself awake
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419[02:21:07] <randy1985> lol
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420[02:21:33] <johnkeates> so, you can't "change"
your account name, but you can make a new account and log in to that
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421[02:22:07] <randy1985> can you log out, drop to a tty console
and do it as root?
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422[02:22:36] <johnkeates> your account isn't magically
connected to anything, and if you rename the directory for the old
username into the new username (/home/randy to /home/notrandy) and
then change the permissions (something like chown -R notrandy
/home/notrandy)
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423[02:22:36] <randy1985> i was under the impression you could
usermod it, but if i'm logged in, it objects since processes
are using the profile
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424[02:22:48] <johnkeates> yes, log need to log out first
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429[02:23:40] <johnkeates> wow, my hands are randomly injecting
words in my sentences
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430[02:24:06] <novilog> It happens when [it's late | too
much coffee | distracted | hungry]
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431[02:24:15] <randy1985> ha. i was gonna suggest MORE coffee
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435[02:24:45] <johnkeates> i'm still in limbo on that
coffee / sleep thing
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436[02:24:53] <johnkeates> i'll just start with tea and see
where it gets me
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438[02:25:04] <johnkeates> so cerbere, how's the
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation today?
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439[02:25:10] <johnkeates> cerebro*
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440[02:25:22] <novilog> So back to my question. Is there a good
password manager in the debian package repositories? I searched by
description for password manager, but the results were confusing at
best...
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441[02:25:40] <johnkeates> most of the password managers are
Desktop Envionment bound
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443[02:26:11] <johnkeates> if you want a good CLI password
manager, there is one based on a few scripts and GPG, with repo
support so you can move them around and share them with other
systems
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444[02:26:17] <novilog> That seems a bit useless... how can you
have a rock-solid free software password manager if they're DE
dependent?
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445[02:26:29] <johnkeates> well, because DE's can be
software and free
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446[02:26:31] <novilog> johnkeates: I would love a good CLI one
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447[02:26:46] <johnkeates> okay, let me dig in my history, i
read about this one on hackernews
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448[02:27:14] <johnkeates> found it:
replaced-url
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449[02:27:16] <novilog> Haha -- I was just at hackernews trying
to find an rss feed for their main news page, but nada
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450[02:27:29] <novilog> Awesome! Thanks!
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451[02:27:48] <johnkeates> dpkg pass
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452[02:27:49] <dpkg> johnkeates: I wish you would RTFM.
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453[02:27:54] <johnkeates> :(
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454[02:28:00] <johnkeates> dpkg package pass
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455[02:28:01] <dpkg> johnkeates: are you using Windows?
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456[02:28:03] <johnkeates> arf
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457[02:28:09] <johnkeates> anyway, it's in the repo
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458[02:28:11] <jmcnaught> !ot
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459[02:28:11] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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460[02:28:24] <johnkeates> jmcnaught: this is about a debian
package
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461[02:28:35] <jmcnaught> please folks, if you want to chat do
it in a channel that's for chatting, this channel is for
support
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462[02:28:54] <johnkeates> but. debian. package.
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464[02:29:12] <johnkeates> here we go:
replaced-url
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466[02:29:59] <johnkeates> it's about 3 years old, but
buster has a newer version
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468[02:30:18] <johnkeates> it is still actively developed, and
there is an active debian maintainer too
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469[02:30:41] <novilog> I tried to add the repositories from
testing once... I wrecked my system dependency tree.
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470[02:30:55] <jmcnaught> yeah you cannot mix stable and testing
or unstable
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472[02:31:38] <novilog> If I wanted to get the new version, is
there a way to do it without being on the respective version?
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473[02:31:45] <novilog> of debian*
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475[02:32:24] <jmcnaught> if it's not in backports, you
could try backporting the package yourself
replaced-url
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477[02:33:35] <novilog> Alright... so much work to be done.
Haha. Thanks jmcnaught johnkeates
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480[02:34:08] <jmcnaught> ,v pass
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481[02:34:09] <judd> Package: pass on amd64 -- wheezy-backports:
1.6.3-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.3-3; stretch: 1.6.5-7; buster: 1.7.1-3;
sid: 1.7.1-3
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482[02:34:19] <johnkeates> ah, so it's ,v
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483[02:34:39] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
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484[02:34:39] <johnkeates> alternatively, there is nothing
preventing you from using the sources and building your own
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485[02:35:05] <jmcnaught> or actually try the version in stable
first, and see if it works for you…
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486[02:35:18] <johnkeates> yeah, that'd work too, it's
been patched
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487[02:35:37] <jmcnaught> why add complexity before trying the
simple option?
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490[02:36:11] <novilog> Just want to make sure I'm getting
something that's secure... this package looks like it's
been around for a long time
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491[02:36:27] <rmzelnick> guys
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492[02:36:29] <rmzelnick> I need help
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493[02:36:49] <rmzelnick> Compiling my kernel, I recall doing it
using kernel-package
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494[02:36:53] <jmcnaught> packages in debian stable get security
updates, packages in testing and unstable not so much (they get
updated as work happens on them)
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495[02:37:11] <jmcnaught> !kernel handbook
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496[02:37:12] <dpkg> The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook
replaced-url
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497[02:37:26] <novilog> I guess I'm just not used to the
major release mode yet. I moved from Arch
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499[02:38:07] <novilog> Again, thanks jmcnaught johnkeates
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500[02:38:21] <rmzelnick> Okay now I found it hehe
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501[02:38:24] <rmzelnick> thanks
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502[02:38:38] <si\ver> after an upgrade to debian stretch, I
have noticed lots of gtk text rendering bugs. Where is a good place
to report them via irc or email?
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503[02:39:18] <johnkeates> si\ver: try finding out why or what
the problem is first, maybe it's a configuration issue, maybe
it's a library issue, maybe with specific programs
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504[02:39:33] <si\ver> It's a platform issue with armhf, I
am almost sure.
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505[02:39:36] <rmzelnick> Wait! I need a kernel v4.8.x because
VMWare won't work with v4.9.x
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506[02:39:50] <rmzelnick> how can I install a different version
using apt?
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507[02:39:52] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: then you don't need
to recompile, just install an older kernel
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508[02:40:33] <rmzelnick> apt-cache returns no search
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509[02:40:46] <rmzelnick> for linux sources less than 4.9.x
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510[02:40:51] <johnkeates> novilog: you'll get used to the
major release deal, it's actually pretty good when you compare
it to the breakage with rolling releases. if you want to know a bit
more about those security patches or why version numbers have patch
extension numbers, try the new package maintainer's guide, it
shows you why things are done that way
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511[02:41:04] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: do you need to recompile,
or do you need an older version?
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513[02:41:32] <rmzelnick> No
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514[02:41:35] <rmzelnick> Just an older version
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517[02:42:05] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: try
linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64
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519[02:42:59] <rmzelnick> Unable to locate package,
couldn't find it by glob, nor regex
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520[02:43:03] <jmcnaught> using a kernel that won't get
security updates sounds like a bad compromise to be able to use
vmware… but old packages can be found on
replaced-url
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522[02:44:07] <johnkeates> maybe not using vmware is the better
option, but who am I to tell you good from evil
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523[02:44:36] <johnkeates> if you *must* for business/policy
reasons use vmware, you probably have to use a supported OS as well
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525[02:45:11] <rmzelnick> I found a patch on the source code
around VMWare
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526[02:45:16] <rmzelnick> but it didn't work so well
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527[02:45:31] <rmzelnick> I have it here installed on my
computer, but it freezes
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529[02:45:55] <johnkeates> i'd suggest waiting for the
official patch
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530[02:46:00] <johnkeates> when it's in the repo
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531[02:46:11] <jmcnaught> or use something else instead, like
libvirt+KVM
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532[02:46:16] <johnkeates> is it reported to the kernel package
as a bug?
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534[02:46:20] <johnkeates> or use Xen
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535[02:46:23] <johnkeates> I like Xen
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538[02:46:36] <rmzelnick> Not really, I wanna use VMWare because
of liability
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539[02:46:49] <rmzelnick> I'm taking system programming at
school
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540[02:47:13] <rmzelnick> If anything goes wrong with grading my
code, they can use the fact that I was using some other emulator
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541[02:47:21] <rmzelnick> Not the one they specifically asked
for
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543[02:47:37] <johnkeates> they can do that with your kernel
version or Linux distro as well
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545[02:47:43] <rmzelnick> I'm thinking about having a
dual-boot between kernels
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546[02:47:47] <rmzelnick> I use lilo
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547[02:47:52] <johnkeates> lilo?
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548[02:47:53] <johnkeates> eek
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549[02:47:55] <johnkeates> gross!
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551[02:48:10] <johnkeates> but again, do as you please
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552[02:48:10] <rmzelnick> what do you use?
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553[02:48:18] <johnkeates> grub2 or direct EFI loading or
Coreboot
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555[02:48:40] <rmzelnick> I've used grub and grub2
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556[02:48:55] <rmzelnick> I liked the config on grub, but then
grub2 came out...
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557[02:48:56] <johnkeates> also, i almost always either boot off
of LVM2 on top of RAID1 or ZFS
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558[02:49:21] <rmzelnick> woa!
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560[02:49:26] <rmzelnick> impressive!
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561[02:49:30] <johnkeates> config-wise: use the system options
with /etc/default/grub
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564[02:49:43] <johnkeates> lilo still uses block maps right?
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565[02:49:56] <rmzelnick> I dunno tbh
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566[02:50:05] <rmzelnick> I used lilo just to get myself
acquainted
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567[02:50:15] <johnkeates> hmm
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568[02:50:20] <johnkeates> debian installs grub by default
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569[02:50:24] <rmzelnick> Maybe I'll switch over to
syslinux
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570[02:50:26] <johnkeates> unless you replace it or have an
ancient install
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572[02:50:45] <rmzelnick> No
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573[02:50:57] <johnkeates> what do you 'configure' in
the bootloader that makes it so that you have configuration issues
with grub2?
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574[02:50:58] <rmzelnick> On my install CD I had the option not
to install it
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575[02:51:12] <rmzelnick> I didn't install, then used the
CD in rescue mode
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578[02:51:22] <rmzelnick> This is a new install
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579[02:51:42] <rmzelnick> From rescue mode I installed lilo
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580[02:51:51] <johnkeates> but what do you 'configure'
in the bootloader that makes it so that you have configuration
issues with grub2?
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582[02:52:53] <rmzelnick> The configuration issue is more of an
obstacle since you'd have to re-run grub2, wait for it to build
that config menu, and you have to use sudo.
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584[02:53:23] <rmzelnick> Various nuances, and it's more
difficult to learn compared to grub1
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585[02:53:31] <rmzelnick> the config I mean
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586[02:54:23] <johnkeates> that is true, but it is also covered
by the fact that hand-written configurations are not that much of a
thing anymore
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587[02:54:28] <johnkeates> at least, not in my case
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588[02:55:10] <johnkeates> any special parameters you want go in
/etc/default/grub or grub.d and you run update-grub after you edit
it
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589[02:55:15] <beingbrown> johnkeates: i'm sorry if this is
a the most newb question--i'm setting up xen now--so far,
i'm not sure what strategy to go with for vm storage. I
definitely don't have raid fanciness. i do have a 200G extended
partition available, but unallocated. any advice you could give is
well appreciated
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590[02:55:17] <rmzelnick> I'm just picky when it comes to
understanding this stuff
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591[02:55:18] <johnkeates> that's all there is to it
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592[02:56:00] <johnkeates> the thing is that when a new kernel
comes out or when you add special entries like memtest, or chainload
something else, or maybe add xen, those entries need to be added
too, and maybe they need those special parameters as well
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593[02:56:18] <johnkeates> so when you have a special needs
system, it saves you from duplicating the same things 10 times
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594[02:56:26] <rmzelnick> To me linux is like a new world to
explore
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595[02:56:30] <johnkeates> it is
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596[02:56:31] <johnkeates> indeed
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598[02:57:09] <johnkeates> beingbrown: use LVM for starters,
that's probably the best way to get into it ; file based disk
images I cannot recommend
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599[02:57:49] <johnkeates> beingbrown: install lvm2 if you
don't have it already, then use pvcreate and vgcreate to make a
LVM partition out of that 200G
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601[02:58:10] <johnkeates> beingbrown: and then use lvcreate to
make the logical volumes, you can make as many as you like and of
any size
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602[02:58:23] <beingbrown> johnkeates: i have it installed.
I'm trying to run everything via ansible.
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603[02:58:28] <johnkeates> beingbrown: then you'll end up
with /dev/<vg name>/<lv name>
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604[02:58:28] <rmzelnick> But can't I dual boot whenever I
need to use VMWare?
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606[02:58:43] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: you can with Grub2 by
default, it does that automatically
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608[02:58:47] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: with lilo, i don't
know
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609[02:58:55] <rmzelnick> I just don't want my graders
holding me liable because it wasn't assynchronous blablabla
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610[02:58:56] <johnkeates> it's been 10+ years since i last
had to use it
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612[02:58:58] <beingbrown> regarding logical volumes, can you
clarify a little bit on size--i assume i can make as many as I want
and of any size so long as the sum of all of them is < 200G,
correct?
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614[02:59:18] <johnkeates> beingbrown: correct, they cannot be
more together than the pv in the vg
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615[02:59:44] <beingbrown> a vg can extend across multiple lv,
right? or, what's the advantage of the abstraction layer of the
vg?
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617[02:59:48] <johnkeates> beingbrown: you are familiar with lvm
terminology? vg = volume group, lv = logical volume, pv = physical
volume
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618[02:59:55] <beingbrown> yes.
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619[02:59:57] <johnkeates> okay
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620[03:00:13] <johnkeates> so, the things is that a volume group
is in 'between' of the disks and the logical volumes
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621[03:00:25] <beingbrown> okay. i had it backwards.
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622[03:00:28] <johnkeates> you can put as many disks and any
type of disk (as a pv) into the vg
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623[03:00:43] <johnkeates> the vg then has the total size of all
the disks you added combined available as space
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625[03:00:54] <johnkeates> the logical volumes 'use'
space inside that group
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626[03:01:06] <johnkeates> you can resize them on demand, as
long as there is space in the group
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628[03:01:14] <beingbrown> and so your lv have up to that
space--allowing an lv to be split across pv?
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629[03:01:27] <johnkeates> the lvm system will put the data
anywhere, so you don't have to fiddle around and move
partitions to grow an lv
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630[03:01:32] <johnkeates> yes
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631[03:01:49] <beingbrown> ok. fair enough.
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632[03:01:52] <johnkeates> there are of course settings to
change that but by default an LV can be accross many PV's
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635[03:02:18] <johnkeates> if you have ten disks of 10GB you can
make a 100GB VG and on top of that two 50GB LV's and they will
be spread out over those 10 disks
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636[03:02:36] <johnkeates> (which i would not recommend as
everything will break if even 1 of those 10 disks fails)
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637[03:02:55] <johnkeates> what happens in practise is that
people tend to use RAID volumes as PV's
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639[03:03:15] <beingbrown> how hard is it to retrofit raid?
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640[03:03:20] <johnkeates> it is easy
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641[03:03:29] <rmzelnick> johnkeates: picking a kernel here,
I'm confused as to what 4.8.0-x-amd64 means
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642[03:03:38] <johnkeates> this is because the LVM system works
with extents and you can reallocate them
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643[03:03:43] <rmzelnick> I see rc (release candidate)
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644[03:03:52] <johnkeates> so you can ask LVM to move all the
extents off of a disk
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645[03:03:54] <rmzelnick> But there's also
linux-image-4.8.0-1-amd64
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646[03:04:02] <rmzelnick> and 2, and 3
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647[03:04:05] <beingbrown> okay, so i can skip setting up raid
now, and revisit it later when i've got more than one pv
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648[03:04:08] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: the -x suffix isn't
RC but it's debian-pachlevel
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649[03:04:14] <johnkeates> beingbrown: yes, indeed
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650[03:04:18] <beingbrown> without having to redo everything on
top of it.
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651[03:04:20] <beingbrown> perfect.
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652[03:04:22] <johnkeates> yep
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653[03:04:27] <rmzelnick> the x is a placeholder
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654[03:04:44] <johnkeates> yes, x is the placeholder, the number
there only means "patch level by debian"
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656[03:05:01] <rmzelnick> Hum ok
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657[03:05:05] <beingbrown> that's part supply constraint,
part mental fatigue. there's so much to cover here. i'm
trying to stand up a little whitebox and getting into the realm of
'i don't know any of this at a practical level' way
too fast.
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658[03:05:18] <beingbrown> :)
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659[03:05:55] <johnkeates> beingbrown: when you want to move to
raid, it's reasonably simple; you first setup raid, i.e. you
use MD, mdadm to create a raid1 disk out of 2 normal disks, i.e.
/dev/sde1 and /dev/sdf1, giving you /dev/md0
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662[03:06:38] <johnkeates> beingbrown: then you use pvcreate and
vgextend
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664[03:06:51] <johnkeates> pvcreate on the md0 raid1 disk, and
vgextend to add that pv to the vg
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665[03:07:02] <johnkeates> at this point, it's not used
since it's only added
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666[03:07:26] <johnkeates> then you tell lvm to move all extents
from that 200gb partition away to the raid PV, and when it's
done you tell it to remove the 200gb PV
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668[03:07:37] <johnkeates> at that point, you can wipe it since
it's no longer in use
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670[03:07:54] <johnkeates> during all of this, there will
obviously be a performance impact but everything can keep running
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671[03:08:45] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: if you get a panic,
it's probably because you are either using the wrong initrd
with the kernel or you may have to use/fix the boot parameters
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672[03:08:46] <beingbrown> cool.
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674[03:09:04] <beingbrown> okay. so for now, going to go do
this. then to go shop for some larger volumes.
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675[03:09:09] <johnkeates> yep
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676[03:09:15] <rmzelnick> no worries hehe I'm familiar with
gentoo
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677[03:09:17] <beingbrown> i may be back with questions.
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678[03:09:18] <beingbrown> :)
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679[03:09:22] <johnkeates> cool
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680[03:09:25] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: also cool
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685[03:10:06] <rmzelnick> johnkeates: do you use any other linux
distro?
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686[03:10:08] <neilthereildeil> hey guys. i loaded the e1000e
NIC driver with modprobe -a because google says thats what i need
for my NIC. now that its loaded, why doesnt ifconfig -a show a new
interface?
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695[03:12:19] <johnkeates> neilthereildeil: because it only
shows interfaces it knows about, what does dmesg say? also: the
drivers get loaded automatically, google is a liar. check lspci as
well
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696[03:13:05] <neilthereildeil> johnkeates: now that i loaded
e1000e, dmesg shows init messages from the driver
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697[03:13:06] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: yep, it's a mixed
bag. debian, fedora, rhel, grml, alpine, openwrt (doesn't
really count), arch, slackware, tinycore
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698[03:13:25] <johnkeates> neilthereildeil: it will also show
you the device name it came up as
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699[03:13:32] <neilthereildeil> lspci shows the ethernet device
before and after loading e1000e
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701[03:13:49] <johnkeates> dmesg should have something like eth1
or en0ps1 or whatever
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702[03:14:19] <johnkeates> if it shows nothing, your card might
be broken, or it may be a miniGBIC interface and you need to stick
an adapter in it to work
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706[03:14:58] <neilthereildeil> ok so i see the pci device
referenced in dmesg
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708[03:15:23] <neilthereildeil> it talks about sleep states and
MMIO addresses
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709[03:15:28] <johnkeates> okay
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710[03:15:39] <neilthereildeil> but no device names listed
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711[03:15:41] <johnkeates> maybe paste your dmesg to termbin if
you're not afraid of that kind of thing
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712[03:15:45] <uxfi> Should update to strech tonight
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713[03:15:48] <uxfi> or tommrow morning.
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714[03:15:53] <uxfi> Where are the update released notes?
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715[03:16:19] <johnkeates> neilthereildeil:
replaced-url
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716[03:16:33] <johnkeates> uxfi: here:
replaced-url
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717[03:16:37] <uxfi> thanks!
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718[03:16:46] <neilthereildeil> johnkeates: im offline remember?
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720[03:16:48] <neilthereildeil> :)
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721[03:16:54] <johnkeates> oh, i thought it was an extra nic
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722[03:16:58] <uxfi> johnkeates; I'm running a custom build
of 8 now so I hope this ugprade goes welll
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723[03:17:15] <johnkeates> uxfi: as long as you have backups,
nothing can hurt you! :p
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724[03:17:32] <johnkeates> neilthereildeil: well, if the driver
is loaded and works, it should give you an interface name as well
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726[03:17:49] <uxfi> johnkeates; yeah I shoudl take the USB/SD
card and make a back up
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727[03:18:09] <rmzelnick> having problems with debian keyring
after the snapshot was put into sources.list
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728[03:18:16] <johnkeates> neilthereildeil: igb for example,
says stuff like igb 0000:05:00.0: added PHC on eth1
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729[03:18:19] <neilthereildeil> johnkeates: i know the hardware
works because ive booted other kernels on this machine
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730[03:18:38] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: try noy using it directly
but just pull the package.deb manually, it has no dependencies iirc
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731[03:18:47] <randy1985> so I want to delete a group, but you
can't delete a group if it's a user's primary group.
after "gpasswd -d <user> <group>",
"groups <user>" still shows <group> as his
primary group. Any ideas?
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732[03:18:51] <rmzelnick> I try that at first
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733[03:18:55] <johnkeates> neilthereildeil: okay, but it should
post the interface name during driver load
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734[03:18:56] <rmzelnick> it depends on linux-headers
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735[03:19:06] <johnkeates> randy1985: delete the user first
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736[03:19:14] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: then download that too :p
if you don't have it
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738[03:19:25] <neilthereildeil> johnkeates: ok, i just booted to
the other kernel
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739[03:19:27] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: or get the extra keyring i
guess
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740[03:19:36] <neilthereildeil> lspci -k says e1000e is in use
for that device
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741[03:19:44] <johnkeates> neilthereildeil: okay, so it differs
in functionality between kernels
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742[03:19:56] <johnkeates> neilthereildeil: is it a very new nic
or very old one by chance?
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743[03:19:58] <neilthereildeil> yea so it could be my custom
kernel
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744[03:20:02] <neilthereildeil> very new
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745[03:20:04] <johnkeates> ah
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746[03:20:11] <johnkeates> then you need to build a new kernel
as well
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747[03:20:14] <johnkeates> with the driver enabled
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748[03:20:15] <johnkeates> etc
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749[03:20:18] <neilthereildeil> oh crap
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750[03:20:21] <neilthereildeil> i need this kernel version
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751[03:20:38] <johnkeates> it is possible that the driver simply
doesn't exist for that kernel version
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752[03:20:41] <neilthereildeil> ok ill check kernel git
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753[03:20:44] <johnkeates> but sometimes you can backport it
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754[03:21:05] <johnkeates> e1000e isn't all that special,
but it has different versions and gets upgraded all the time
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755[03:21:18] <johnkeates> if your older kernel has an older
e1000e it won't work
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756[03:21:36] <johnkeates> and debian doesn't have separate
driver packages for that driver
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757[03:22:19] <randy1985> johnkeates: surely there is an
effective way to remove a user from a group. no way you have to
delete the whole profile
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758[03:22:54] <johnkeates> well, you have to re-assign the
primary group and optional groups and if the user is logged in, log
it out first etc.
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759[03:23:15] <johnkeates> so while not impossible, it is far
easier to just delete the user and re-create it with the groups you
want if it's a live syste
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762[03:25:30] <randy1985> the user isn't logged in.
recreating the user's config would be too cumbersome. how do
you reassign his primary group?
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763[03:25:59] <johnkeates> deleting the user does not delete the
config
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764[03:26:01] <johnkeates> or anything else
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765[03:26:02] <johnkeates> just the user
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768[03:26:25] <johnkeates> well, except for when you use some
GUI, then all bets are off
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770[03:27:02] <randy1985> use some gui to do the deleting?
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771[03:27:19] <johnkeates> well, you never know
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772[03:27:26] <johnkeates> some people use gui's
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773[03:27:38] <johnkeates> and then you don't really
control things and it all goes to crap
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774[03:28:11] <randy1985> oh i was just clarifying if you meant
using a gui to do the deleting vs talking about config elements of
the DE or something
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775[03:28:28] <johnkeates> oh no
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776[03:28:40] <johnkeates> it was more of a 'how are you
doing this' type of question
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778[03:29:16] <johnkeates> i think userdel helps
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779[03:29:21] <johnkeates> but hey, that's just me
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782[03:30:15] <johnkeates> deluser doesn't delete anything
either by default, but userdel never does, so that's a fine
choice
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783[03:30:47] <randy1985> i'm a fan of multiple options.
aside from your suggested method, how do you reassign a user's
primary group? (i've had reason to do this before)
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785[03:33:01] <johnkeates> well, i'd say usermod as usual,
but if that doesn't work for some reason.. using NIS or SSSD or
LDAP?
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787[03:34:02] <randy1985> thank you
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797[03:38:00] <johnkeates> randy1985: by the way, note the
difference between -g and -G and the -a option; -g is for the
primary group, -G for all other groups and doing -a -G means adding
extra groups instead of completely overwriting with the groups you
supplied
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801[03:40:03] <randy1985> yep. man page ftw
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803[03:43:03] <rmzelnick> I need to find the key for the
snapshot I'm using
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804[03:43:11] <rmzelnick> I can't find it at all
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806[03:43:22] <rmzelnick> It says linux-signed
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807[03:43:44] <uxfi> randy1985; ++
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809[03:44:25] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: what if you ignore it and
just install the packages? or are you a five-eyes target (or in
russia/china)
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810[03:44:35] <rmzelnick> No
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811[03:44:45] <rmzelnick> I can't even use
--allow-unauthentication
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812[03:44:50] <johnkeates> oh :(
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813[03:44:56] <rmzelnick> doesn't work with apt-get
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814[03:45:04] <rmzelnick> Still I'm missing the Release.gpg
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819[03:45:53] <rmzelnick>
replaced-url
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825[03:48:20] <johnkeates> well, in
replaced-url
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827[03:48:31] <johnkeates> and a realease file
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846[03:55:49] <rmzelnick> where do I put the release file?
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852[03:57:47] <somiaj> rmzelnick: release file in what context?
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856[03:58:27] <newcoder> I can't find a package named
'more'
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857[03:58:31] <newcoder> Why?
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861[03:58:47] <rmzelnick> I'm using snapshots from debian
to get a older kernel release v4.8.0 but I'm getting an error
since I don't have Release.gpg and Release.
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862[03:59:04] <rmzelnick> somiaj: ^
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863[03:59:25] <rmzelnick> more belongs to coreutils I think
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864[03:59:30] <rmzelnick> newcoder: ^
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865[03:59:43] <newcoder> rmzelnick: Are you sure?
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871[04:00:54] <rmzelnick> newcoder: just confirmed here
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872[04:01:05] <newcoder> I think, more is not in coreutils
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873[04:01:16] <rmzelnick> it's not
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874[04:01:27] <rmzelnick> I meant to say it is not
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879[04:04:30] <jmcnaught> rmzelnick: what is the deb line that
you added to sources.list?
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880[04:04:34] <somiaj> rmzelnick: What error are you getting?
Google seems to suggest the common error is release file is expired.
afiak the release file is on the repo no the client.
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881[04:05:06] <rmzelnick> deb [check-valid-until=no]
replaced-url
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882[04:05:15] <somiaj> newcoder: dpkg -S /bin/more returns
util-linux here in stretch.
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884[04:05:31] <rmzelnick> then I have a deb-src
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889[04:06:08] <jmcnaught> rmzelnick: where did
'linux-signed' come from?
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890[04:06:17] <somiaj> rmzelnick: linux-signed is not a valid
debian repo.
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891[04:06:24] <rmzelnick> here
replaced-url
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893[04:06:36] <rmzelnick> well then what should I use LoL?
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894[04:06:39] <rmzelnick> main?
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896[04:06:53] <jmcnaught> rmzelnick: you may need to reread the
usage instruction on the snapshot front page
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897[04:06:56] <somiaj> rmzelnick: what repo was that pakage put
into, stretch? jessie? sid?
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901[04:07:47] <rmzelnick> somiaj: that's what I'm
trying to find out
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902[04:07:50] <somiaj> rmzelnick: linux-signed is the name of
the source package, not the repo.
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903[04:08:09] <somiaj> rmzelnick: what are you needing this
binary package for? Why do you need an older (mostlikely insecure)
kernel?
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905[04:08:43] <rmzelnick> I need to downgrade from v4.9 to v4.8
to support VMWare (required by school)
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907[04:09:37] <somiaj> rmzelnick: sounds like you want to use
stretch then.
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908[04:10:07] <rmzelnick> Yes, indeed I have stretch
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909[04:10:32] <somiaj> yes, you most likely want the snapshot
kernel made for stretch, though I'm surprised I don't see
that info on the page you link
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910[04:10:50] <johnkeates> it's jessie
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911[04:11:11] <somiaj> that kernel was never built for jessie,
4.8 might be in jessie-backports though.
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912[04:11:15] <johnkeates> like i posted:
replaced-url
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913[04:11:17] <rmzelnick> My distro came with keys for jessie
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915[04:11:27] <johnkeates> but 4.8 is on multiple pages
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916[04:11:30] <johnkeates> it's not that hard to get it
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918[04:12:33] <somiaj> rmzelnick: if you want the kernel built
for stretch use 'stretch' if you want the older kernel
built in jessie-backports (for jessie) use jessie-backports. It is
asking for the repo in which the binary package you are wanting was
originally built for.
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921[04:14:42] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: this is what i have on a
stretch system upgraded from jessie and i did have jessie-backports
on back then: ii linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64 4.8.15-2 amd64 Linux 4.8
for 64-bit PCs (signed)
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922[04:14:51] <johnkeates> so that verion should be somewhere
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923[04:15:27] <rmzelnick> johnkeates: are you gonna install
v4.9?
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924[04:15:35] <rmzelnick> It came with my stretch :)
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925[04:15:36] <johnkeates> i'm already running 4.9
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926[04:15:56] <johnkeates> i have multiple kernels installed
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931[04:17:43] <rmzelnick> johnkeates: somiaj:
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932[04:17:43] <rmzelnick>
replaced-url
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933[04:17:47] <rmzelnick> opps
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934[04:18:01] <rmzelnick> deb [check-valid-until=no]
replaced-url
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935[04:18:07] <rmzelnick> no
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936[04:18:14] <somiaj> as we said linux-signed is not a valid
repo, that is the source package name.
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939[04:18:40] <somiaj> use either stretch or jessie-backports
depending on what version of debian you are running. But I
personally would try to find another option than using an old
insecure kernel for your issue.
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940[04:18:47] <rmzelnick> deb [check-valid-until=no]
replaced-url
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941[04:18:48] <johnkeates> remove linux-signed and replace it
with either "jessie" or "stretch"
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942[04:19:06] <johnkeates> yes
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943[04:19:10] <rmzelnick> well
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944[04:19:21] <rmzelnick> I use 'stretch' and ran
apt-get update
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945[04:19:51] <somiaj> johnkeates: are you sure jessie will
work, the 4.8 kernel was never made for jessie, you most likely mean
jessie-backports
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946[04:19:59] <rmzelnick>
replaced-url
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947[04:20:17] <rmzelnick> let me past my sources.list
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948[04:20:30] <johnkeates> remove the src
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949[04:20:40] <johnkeates> deb-src that is
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950[04:21:04] <rmzelnick>
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951[04:21:26] <rmzelnick> but the main page of
snapshot.debian.org shows an example with that src
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952[04:21:44] <johnkeates> okay, but remove it
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953[04:21:50] <johnkeates> only use the deb one
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954[04:22:13] <rmzelnick> there's also deb security
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955[04:22:19] <rmzelnick> there are two deb-src
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956[04:22:21] <johnkeates> just use deb
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957[04:22:24] <rmzelnick> ok
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959[04:22:45] <rmzelnick> stretch-updates?
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960[04:22:47] <johnkeates> nay
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961[04:23:00] <johnkeates> deb [check-valid-until=no]
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962[04:23:02] <johnkeates> and nothing else
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963[04:23:06] <johnkeates> then install the kernel
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964[04:23:49] <rmzelnick> oh no'
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965[04:24:14] <rmzelnick> it shows linux-image-4.8.x-bpo
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966[04:24:17] <johnkeates> that's ok
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967[04:24:18] <rmzelnick> what's bpo?
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968[04:24:21] <johnkeates> backport
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969[04:24:22] <rmzelnick> backports?
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970[04:24:24] <rmzelnick> hm
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973[04:25:12] <rmzelnick> alright let's see =)
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976[04:27:51] <rmzelnick> that's why I like Debian
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978[04:28:06] <rmzelnick> There are almost no binhosts in gentoo
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979[04:28:16] <rmzelnick> I save time from compiling
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982[04:29:38] <johnkeates> yep, basically everything that is a
buildable source package is also a binary package
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983[04:29:44] <rmzelnick> johnkeates: got error =(
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984[04:30:10] <johnkeates> what brand?
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985[04:30:28] <rmzelnick> johnkeates:
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987[04:31:11] <rmzelnick> I'll like need that deb-src
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988[04:31:17] <rmzelnick> likely
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994[04:32:31] <johnkeates> did linux-headers-4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64
not work?
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996[04:32:55] <rmzelnick> It wasn't included in there
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997[04:33:06] <rmzelnick> I have been able to update to deb-src
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998[04:33:09] <johnkeates> okay, so if you apt-get install
linux-headers-4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64
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999[04:33:10] <johnkeates> ah
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1000[04:33:15] <johnkeates> well, should be there then
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1001[04:33:28] <johnkeates> linux-headers-4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64
should probably have been installed by whatever wants dkms (vmware?)
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1002[04:33:47] <rmzelnick> The following packages have unmet
dependencies: linux-headers-4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 : Depends:
linux-compiler-gcc-4.9-x86
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1004[04:34:14] <rmzelnick> yes
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1011[04:36:58] <jmcnaught> should be using stretch snapshot repo
not jessie-backports if you're using stretch and not jessie
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1013[04:38:10] <rmzelnick> jmcnaught: will change and try again
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1018[04:39:52] <rmzelnick> so ftp.us.debian.org is going down
soon right?
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1019[04:40:03] <rmzelnick> I saw the FB post
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1020[04:40:24] <jmcnaught> it will still be available via http,
but no longer via ftp
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1021[04:40:25] <rmzelnick> I mean, the FTP counterpart
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1022[04:40:29] <rmzelnick> yea
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1023[04:40:43] <jmcnaught> !ftp must die
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1024[04:40:44] <dpkg> FTP MUST DIE!
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1026[04:41:25] <dvs> killers!
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1027[04:41:56] <rmzelnick> jmcnaught: what nfs does linux offer?
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1028[04:42:11] <rmzelnick> I'd go with Samba, but
that's still Windows NT
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1031[04:43:11] <dvs> nfs??? But the users need a little
coordinating between machines.
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1032[04:43:27] <rmzelnick> jmcnaught: ok now it seems to have
found the correct package: linux-image-4.8.0-3-amd64
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1033[04:44:09] <rmzelnick> dvs: I work in an office, we use
Samba. I wonder if there's a linux counterpart.
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1035[04:45:05] <dvs> rmzelnick, you can still use samba with
debian
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1037[04:45:35] <rmzelnick> But I was wondering what nfs's
linux offer
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1039[04:45:50] <rmzelnick> nfsesses
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1040[04:46:09] <dvs> !nfs
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1041[04:46:09] <dpkg> Network File System (NFS) is a distributed
file system protocol developed by Sun Microsystems. To set up and
secure, read the Linux NFS-HOWTO at
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1042[04:46:51] <rmzelnick> !kerberos
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1043[04:46:52] <dpkg> somebody said kerberos was a cross-platform
networked security and authentication system for accessing services.
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1044[04:47:25] <dvs> that's more of a security protocol
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1046[04:48:08] <rmzelnick> dvs: well you see.. FTP is bad, but if
you're working a small office I think it gets the job done
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1047[04:48:26] <johnkeates> SFTP is easier
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1048[04:48:32] <johnkeates> because you don't have to
install ftp
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1049[04:48:39] <johnkeates> and you probably already have ssh and
sftp
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1050[04:48:42] <rmzelnick> despite of the fact that I installed
Samba, and conviced my boss on the idea
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1052[04:49:31] <rmzelnick> ok so far so
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1053[04:49:32] <rmzelnick> good
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1054[04:49:41] <rmzelnick> the kernel is installing no errors
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1083[05:02:25] <rmzelnick_> johnkeates: jmcnaught: thanks!
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1084[05:02:31] <rmzelnick_> I'm back
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1099[05:13:11] <johnkeates> rmzelnick: score!
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1100[05:13:12] <rmzelnick> johnkeates: jmcnaught: yay VMWare is
now running
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1101[05:13:20] <johnkeates> virtualise all the things!
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1102[05:13:28] <johnkeates> i'm gonna virtualise myself to
bed now
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1103[05:13:30] <johnkeates> it's 5AM :p
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1104[05:13:34] <rmzelnick> hahahahaha
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1105[05:13:36] <rmzelnick> thanks john
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1106[05:13:42] <rmzelnick> see you around sometime
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1107[05:13:44] <johnkeates> see ya!
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1161[05:59:32] <jrj> i tested fresh debian 9 with sssd to add to
active directory domain and gvfs-fuse,fusesmb for accessing smb
shares
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1162[05:59:52] <jrj> i can not open any file directly from
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1164[06:00:06] <jrj> do i need to do some additional
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1165[06:00:40] <jrj> same situation with centos7 has no any
problems - files can be opened without problems
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1167[06:01:20] <jrj> and more about debian - if i copy file from
smb share to local disk - it opens well
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1168[06:01:54] <jrj> i tested it in xfce
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1172[06:04:29] <Tom-_> !wait
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1173[06:04:29] <dpkg> If no-one has answered your question to
your satisfaction, please wait 10 minutes before asking again.
Please don't whine about your problem, about the channel, about
Debian, Linux, or anything else. Just wait 10 minutes and then ask
again. Ask me about <repeat> and <ask>.
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1174[06:04:35] <Tom-_> someone might know
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1175[06:04:59] <Tom-_> i thought people usually used SAMBA, no
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1517[07:29:58] <xormor_>
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1521[07:32:24] <klys> it seems none of your base packages were
available from stretch-backports. have you read the packages file?
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1525[07:34:21] <xormor_> klys, how?
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1528[07:35:34] <klys> less
/var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_stretch-backports_main_binary-amd64_Packages
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1529[07:35:39] <klys> for example
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1557[07:47:27] <novilog> Was there a replacement for
nautilus-connect-server implemented in Stretch? Or was it just nuked
entirely?
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1558[07:47:43] <novilog> I didn't see anything in the
release notes about it
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1582[08:00:52] <hexnewbie> novilog: apt-file search
nautilus-connect-server
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1591[08:04:49] <novilog> hexnewbie: I'm wondering why it
wasn't carried over it if wasn't replaced...
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1592[08:05:09] <novilog> hexnewbie: It came as a standard install
with Jessie
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1593[08:05:51] <hexnewbie> novilog: Check if it exists in another
package with apt-file. If it doesn't, my first suspicion would
be that GNOME is to blame, not Debian
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1594[08:06:27] <hexnewbie> novilog: In case if it *wasn't*
removed upstream, you can possibly make a bug report about it (not
sure if there's any chance it reappers in stretch if
that's the case, though)
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1595[08:06:27] <novilog> hexnewbie: That command doesn't
exist. Is it something that needs to be installed?
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1596[08:06:37] <novilog> hexnewbie: That's not a standard
utility
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1597[08:06:39] <hexnewbie> novilog: apt-get install apt-file;
apt-file update
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1598[08:07:26] <novilog> hexnewbie: Oh, entirely possible that
GNOME is to blame...
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1605[08:11:22] <Brosun> Debian on laptops - I'm trying to
decide between a Dell XPS 13 9360 and an Asus Zenbook UX330UA.
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1823[09:48:15] <sbeex> hello guys
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1824[09:48:32] <eck> sup sb
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1826[09:49:00] <Trap-Chan> is there a good HTPC DM? alot of what
I'm reading is tips about increasing zoom to make it easier to
read but that seems to be missing the point that dpad/sel navication
is better for a couch experience. (like kodi and steam BP)
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1832[09:52:45] <ben25> is fdupes the good option to find
duplicate files?
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1835[09:53:02] <ben25> never used before wondering if my research
google was ok
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1836[09:53:10] <ws2k3> i installed debian. i use uefi. so i set
the first boot method int he bios as uefi my disk. i save and exit.
but after reboot i immidiatly come in the bios again. what can this
be?
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1838[09:54:40] <sleepyhead> ws2k3: yeah i had this same problem
as well with opensuse
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1839[09:54:49] <sleepyhead> not sure what's going on
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1840[09:55:11] <Trap-Chan> don't you need to install AFTER
changing that setting? i had to, maybe there is another fix.
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1841[09:55:51] <ws2k3> Trap-Chan can i not just disable uefi? and
boot normaly
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1844[09:57:15] <cruncher> ben25, the program does its purpose.
you have to see for yourself if the results are
"comfortable" for you
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1845[09:57:16] <Trap-Chan> i dunno. when i messed with that stuff
i only had one drive.
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1851[09:59:10] <cruncher> ws2k3, if you didnt install it with
uefi, you can disable it. Try to boot without uefi, then you know
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1875[10:14:57] <ben25> cruncher, oh it seems all fine, thanks ;)
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1878[10:16:52] <Trap-Chan> is there a reason that pulse audio on
a totally fresh install should not want to run?
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1881[10:17:23] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, of course there is a reason
:) .. but if you are asking if its normal, then no is the answer
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1882[10:17:52] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, and explain "not want
to run"
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1883[10:18:00] <Trap-Chan> k, any tips on where to start the
debugging? i get sound output on programs that let me manually
select the HDMI output.
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1885[10:19:14] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, so your speakers are on the
HDMI interface?
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1886[10:19:21] <Trap-Chan> hrm...i cant really think of a better
way to put it that isn't a paragraph so: i only know because
volume control tells me "connection to pulseaudio failed"
and anything where i can't manually set the output are silent.
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1887[10:19:39] <Trap-Chan> my speakers are built into the tv.
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1891[10:21:33] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, so if i understand you
correctly, you want just to set HDMI as default, then all should be
fine?
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1892[10:21:49] <Trap-Chan> also likely worth mentioning sudo
start-pulseaudio-x11 gives me "command not found"
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1893[10:22:04] <Trap-Chan> that and having access to volume
mixxer would be grand.
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1895[10:22:17] <Trap-Chan> but yeah the hdmi default is higher
priority.
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1896[10:22:38] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, you dont have to start pulse
by hand
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1897[10:22:48] <cruncher> what DE are you using?
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1898[10:22:52] <Trap-Chan> the volume control window says to is
why i tried
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1899[10:23:10] <Trap-Chan> i'm using the xfce that installed
by default from the debian cd.
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1900[10:23:27] <Trap-Chan> i've tweaked things but not
anything that should hit performance. just aesthetic stuff.
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1901[10:24:19] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, you can add an applet to the
panel
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1902[10:24:42] <cruncher> then choose pulseaudio plugin
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1903[10:24:43] <Trap-Chan> you mean like the launchers and
alternate clock i added?
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1904[10:24:48] <cruncher> yes
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1908[10:26:27] <Trap-Chan> now my screen just keeps flashing a
big notification saying that audio is muted
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1909[10:26:37] <cruncher> unmute :)
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1911[10:27:10] <Trap-Chan> not muted
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1914[10:27:23] <jelly> judd: file bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
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1915[10:27:27] <judd> Search for bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 in
stretch/amd64: pulseaudio: usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11
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1916[10:27:49] <jelly> Trap-Chan: also that's supposed to
run as normal user, not root
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1918[10:28:09] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, before setting any defaults,
just ope audio mixer trough the applet, select HDMI and play some
sound to see if all is fine
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1919[10:28:32] <Trap-Chan> mixer won't run because of the
error i mentioned before.
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1921[10:29:03] <jelly> Trap-Chan: get pulseaudio running first,
then. After pulseaudio is running use pavucontrol to set both
default output device, or tune applications separately
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1922[10:29:37] <Trap-Chan> k just looked and didn't see
start-pulseaudio-x11 in /bin/
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1923[10:30:26] <Trap-Chan> same for /usr/bin/
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1924[10:30:30] <cruncher> is a pulseaudio process active?
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1926[10:31:12] <Trap-Chan> the answer is no.
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1928[10:31:21] <Trap-Chan> i'm thinking pulse audio
didn't install off the cd?
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1930[10:31:59] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, output of "pulseaudio
--check"
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1931[10:32:20] <Trap-Chan> probably to late to that. i ran
apt-get and it's definitely downloading stuff.
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1932[10:32:37] <Trap-Chan> hey the strobing mute is gone. :P
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1934[10:33:04] <lss8> if I know the name of a binaray, say
netstat, how do I find out which package includes it?
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1935[10:33:24] <lss8> without googling ;)
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1937[10:33:41] <Trap-Chan> with all the stuff that didn't
come on the cd i'm begining to wonder if that's also why
kodi and vlc won't play dvds.
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1939[10:34:57] <bezaban> lss8: apt-file
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1940[10:35:19] <bezaban> need to install it and build a cache
iirc
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1941[10:35:29] <cruncher> lss8, you can use also dpkg -S, but
only for installed packages
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1942[10:35:43] <lss8> and what's the exact command? apt-file
search netstat / apt-file list netstat didn't really work as
expected
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1946[10:36:41] <bezaban> lss8: please emphasize on "not
expected"? :)
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1948[10:37:27] <lss8> bezaban: it's throwing a shitload of
output of every package which includes a file whose name includes
"netstat", e.g. netstatus.py, etc.
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1949[10:37:33] <lss8> I already know the _exact_ binary name
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1950[10:37:42] <lss8> i don't want to fuzzy search
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1951[10:37:49] <bezaban> lss8: right, that means you have the
cache built. apt-file bin/netstat should narrow it dowbn
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1952[10:38:00] <lss8> :/
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1957[10:40:01] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, if it wasnt installed, then
it was probably the reason
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1958[10:41:35] <bezaban> lss8: or perhaps something like search
-x /netstat$
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1960[10:42:11] <Trap-Chan> is there some kind of dvd decoder that
i need to get separately from vlc to get it to load dvds? i can
browse the files on the disk just like on my win computer but when i
try to load it it stops after identifying what movie it is.
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1961[10:42:53] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, its not in debian, but you
want libdvdcss2
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1963[10:43:21] <cruncher> so look for it on the vlc page, or
google
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1966[10:43:38] <Trap-Chan> will do, thanx
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1973[10:44:52] <Trap-Chan> huh, looks like one of my repos has
it.
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1975[10:45:32] <Trap-Chan> i'm guessing that has to do with
dvd licensing, same reason the xbox didn't include dvd playback
out of the box?
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1983[10:47:08] <Trap-Chan> bummer. vlc still won't play the
dvd on the deb machine. >.<
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1985[10:47:34] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, i would start/continue with
getting the sound working
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1987[10:47:51] <Trap-Chan> as far as i can tell it's 100%
good now. that's why i moved on to dvd.
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2001[10:48:29] <a0z> hi everyone, i'm having a problem
attempting to burn a CD-R. i need a windows live cd to load a
firmware updater EXE to update my laptop BIOS: i have the windows
iso, i have the bios update, but when i use wodim to burn the disk i
get "wodim: OPC failed." i have spent the last hour
googling, lots of others have the problem but i failed to find any
solutions.
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2002[10:48:43] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, easiest is to start vlc per
command line, and check the errors
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2006[10:48:59] <Trap-Chan> ahh clever. i'm not that clever.
:P
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2008[10:49:13] <cruncher> a0z, there is no "windows live
cd" (normally)
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2011[10:49:41] <cruncher> a0z, and also, usually the bios is
offered as a windows program and a ISO
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2012[10:49:44] <a0z> cruncher: i obtained "Hirens Boot
CD" which has a "Windows XP Live Environment"
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2013[10:49:48] <cruncher> so you wouldnt need windows fo rit
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2015[10:50:17] <a0z> for the model of Alienware laptop i have,
Dell only provide BIOS update as EXE file
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2016[10:50:23] <cruncher> a0z, yes, thats a PE environment, but i
dont think its suited to update bios
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2019[10:51:15] <a0z> the only other option i have is reformat my
hdd, install windows, update bios, re-format and reinstall debian...
i'm rather comfy with sid at the moment
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2026[10:51:35] <cruncher> a0z, did you try some other buring
program? Brasero always worked for me
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2027[10:51:49] <Trap-Chan> no css library available...isn't
that the thing libdvdcss2 thing?
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2028[10:52:16] <pigeonv> you have to add another source, I guess
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2029[10:52:17] <bazhang> ,v libdvd-pkg
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2030[10:52:18] <judd> Package: libdvd-pkg on amd64 --
jessie-backports/contrib: 1.4.0-1-1~bpo8+1; buster/contrib:
1.4.0-1-2; sid/contrib: 1.4.0-1-2; stretch/contrib: 1.4.0-1-2
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2031[10:52:20] <a0z> tried brasero and wodim to no avail
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2033[10:52:30] <bazhang> thats what you want these days
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2034[10:52:42] <a0z> i'm trying to burn a CD not a DVD
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2036[10:53:03] <bazhang> then there's no need for the css
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2037[10:53:15] <Trap-Chan> lolz i think 2 convos are crashing. :P
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2038[10:53:20] <cruncher> people got mixed up now :D
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2039[10:53:47] <Trap-Chan> looks like libdvdcss2 downloaded
libdvd-pkg for me.
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2040[10:53:53] <bazhang> if someone wanted to rip, then the one I
suggested is it
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2043[10:54:27] <Trap-Chan> atm i don't care about rip or
burn, just want vlc and code to actually play my movies. :P
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2044[10:54:31] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, rty bazhangs suggestion,
because when you said you already had it in some repo, it sounds
like you dont know what you have. Remove it and better use the
libdvd-pkg
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2045[10:54:38] <cruncher> s/rty/try
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2047[10:55:06] <Trap-Chan> i assume it came from the
'non-free' repo. :P
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2048[10:55:23] <Trap-Chan> k, how do you uninstall again? do you
just say that instead of install?
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2049[10:55:28] <bazhang> it should prompt to run apt once more
after you download it
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2050[10:56:04] <Trap-Chan> k, what is the dif between apt apt-get
and aptitude? am i wrong to always try apt-get first?
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2056[10:57:02] <cruncher> a0z, what model?
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2058[10:57:23] <a0z> cruncher: its a generic usb dvd+cd r/w
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2060[10:57:30] <cruncher> a0z, i mean laptop
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2061[10:57:50] <a0z> cruncher: alienware m11x r3
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2062[10:58:06] <cheapie> a0z: Have you tried a different disc?
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2063[10:58:46] <cheapie> "OPC failed" (especially if it
takes a minute or two to fail) usually means either a bad disc or
the laser is on its way out.
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2064[10:58:48] <Trap-Chan> ahah. so i had already downloaded
libdvd-pkg not because it was a dependant but apparently because
apt-get knows that it's better than the other and selected it
instead for me. (apt-get's words not mine)
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2067[10:59:05] <cheapie> Or, possibly, with the drive being USB,
insufficient power.
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2069[11:00:03] <a0z> cheapie: i've try several disks, also
there are two usb cables both plugged into USB3 sockets
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2071[11:00:17] <cheapie> Probably a failing drive, then.
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2072[11:00:35] <cheapie> Laser diodes do tend to go out
sometimes.
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2073[11:00:46] <Trap-Chan> weird. "configuring
libdvd-pkg" at the top but talks about libdvdcss2 in the
middle. :P
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2074[11:00:56] <cheapie> One thing to check, though - it does
"do something" for a bit and not just instantly give the
error, right?
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2075[11:00:58] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, it downloads it
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2077[11:01:07] <a0z> cheapie: it's brand new, i have used it
successfully before upgrading to sid (i had wheezy before, when i
first used the drive)
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2079[11:01:36] <cruncher> a0z, probably an incompatibility... you
dont have any external burner?
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2080[11:01:41] <a0z> cheapie: when i run the command, it spins up
the CD disk then fails with a second or two
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2081[11:01:54] <a0z> *within
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2082[11:01:56] <cheapie> OK, /that/ might be some software issue
then.
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2085[11:02:41] <Trap-Chan> why not 'burn' the iso to a
thumbdrive?
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2088[11:03:13] <a0z> Trap-Chan: good idea, but doesn't the
iso have to be usb-compatible or something?
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2089[11:03:19] <Trap-Chan> nah
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2090[11:03:21] <cheapie> Trap-Chan: I don't think Windows
ISOs support that.
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2091[11:03:29] <Trap-Chan> i've had every version of windows
installer disk on thumb drive
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2092[11:03:41] <cheapie> That said, there's probably some
tool to make them compatible.
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2093[11:03:45] <cruncher> he doesnt want windows iso, but the PE
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2096[11:04:00] <cruncher> and i doubt the creation tool allows a
usb to be selected
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2097[11:04:02] <a0z> cruncher: yes, i need live environment
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2098[11:04:09] <Trap-Chan> google "how to install windows 7
from thumb drive" and you find a very good guide that works for
all versions of windows installer in my experience.
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2099[11:04:16] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, thats not what he wants
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2101[11:05:14] <Trap-Chan> the disk he's trying to use is
running a cutdown version of windows JUST LIKE the windows install
disks do.
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2102[11:05:35] <a0z> wodim output:
replaced-url
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2103[11:05:37] <cruncher> a0z, another way: do you have an
external hd? you could install i.e. win7 on it, then update the bios
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2107[11:05:59] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, thats the point, he doesnt
"use" it, he wants to burn it
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2109[11:06:16] <a0z> cruncher: i do have a usb/hdd as well as
various thumb drives, i could try installing win7 on to the hhd i
guess
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2110[11:06:24] <cruncher> hirens boot cd doesnt allow a usb stick
to be selected to create the Pe
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2113[11:06:34] <cruncher> a0z, yeah, i think thats the easiest
way
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2114[11:07:00] <cruncher> a0z, also, you can use it again for
same or similar purposes
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2118[11:07:53] <cruncher> a0z, just make sure the debian HD is
disabled in bios, or disconnect it if possible, or your mbr will be
overwritten with some M$ code
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2120[11:08:24] <Trap-Chan> yeah ms just doesn't like to play
nice with other OSes.
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2121[11:08:25] <a0z> cruncher: righto
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2122[11:08:37] <a0z> thanks everyone, you've given me a few
more things to try
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2124[11:08:59] <cruncher> a0z, if it shouldnt work for some
reason, i can give you more ways to keep you busy ;-)
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2125[11:09:21] <a0z> thanks cruncher :-)
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2126[11:09:33] <cruncher> but i think this is the best way..
since the exe cant be run on DOs
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2127[11:09:43] <Trap-Chan> ok maybe i'm just too much of a
newb. but this is saying that i'm supposed to compile
libdvdcss2 AFTER apt-geting libdvd-pkg. doesn't apt-get do the
compiling for you?
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2128[11:10:25] <bazhang> you need to just run apt once more,
everything else is built for you once that happens
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2132[11:10:44] <bazhang> apt install vrms , for example
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2134[11:11:32] <Trap-Chan> k, ran it again and it says it did
nothing.
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2154[11:19:51] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, you didnt read the output
properly
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2155[11:20:24] <cruncher> and launching apt "again"
wouldnt help
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2158[11:20:45] <h4s3> ubuntu-de
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2159[11:20:48] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, there should have been a
message telling you what to run *manually* after installation of
libdvd-pkg
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2161[11:21:10] <bazhang> h4s3, /join #
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2165[11:21:26] <h4s3> hello
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2167[11:21:33] <h4s3> my name is h4s3
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2168[11:22:09] <cruncher> h4s3, if you think you are in
#ubuntu-de, why you write in english? ;-)
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2169[11:22:18] <well_laid_lawn> h4s3: try /j #ubuntu-de
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2170[11:22:25] <cruncher> h4s3, the full command you probably
wanted was /join #ubuntu-de
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2171[11:22:55] <h4s3> nur so
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2176[11:23:18] <h4s3> ubuntu rulez
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2177[11:23:35] <well_laid_lawn> trollolloll
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2179[11:23:42] <h4s3> my ryzen is bad under debian linux
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2180[11:23:42] <Trap-Chan> huh, didn't see that text
cruncher. i'll try again
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2182[11:24:03] <h4s3> and now i try ubuntu
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2183[11:24:04] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, in case you cant find it,
sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg
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2184[11:24:59] <h4s3> Has the live dvd from strech the bug by
installing the os
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2185[11:25:25] <well_laid_lawn> trollolloll
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2188[11:26:22] <Trap-Chan> k, ran that and it said it is not
installed. >.<
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2190[11:26:38] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, then you know what to do
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2191[11:26:45] <KjetilK> If I have a SSD and HDD in a KVM RAID,
will I be able to take advantage of the bootup performance of the
SSD?
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2193[11:28:54] <Trap-Chan> cruncher, nop. not a clue. sorry
i'm such a twit.
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2195[11:29:05] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, lol... install it :D
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2196[11:29:30] <Trap-Chan> as in run the install argument again?
that didn't do anything again.
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2198[11:29:36] <cruncher> apt-get install libdvd-pkg
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2199[11:29:54] <cruncher> then dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg
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2200[11:29:56] <BVale> hi, is it possible that there is no
official install image for ppc32 systems anymore ?
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2201[11:30:00] <cruncher> (both with sudo)
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2204[11:30:44] <Trap-Chan> doing that results in no change.
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2206[11:30:55] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, what you mean "no
change"
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2207[11:31:23] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, maybe you should show the
in&output from each command in as paste
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2208[11:31:29] <cruncher> *in a paste
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2209[11:31:30] <Trap-Chan> the install tells me that 0 were
changed installed upgraded or removed and the reconfig tells me it
still isn't installed.
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2210[11:31:54] <h4s3> rm * -rf /
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2211[11:32:11] <well_laid_lawn> repo issue then
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2213[11:32:46] <cruncher> no, if the repo wouldnt work, that
would be later, after selecting "downlaod source"
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2214[11:33:10] <Pymous> Hello there ! I have an issue with my
libssh2 it seems, when I try to curl something in https, I get this
error : curl: symbol lookup error:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4: undefined symbol:
libssh2_scp_recv2
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2216[11:33:16] <ws2k3> i just did a fresh install of debian 9 and
now im getting ifconfig command not found. what can this be?
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2217[11:33:34] <cruncher> ws2k3, ifconfig is deprecated, use ip
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2219[11:34:28] <Trap-Chan> paste.debian.net/982655/
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2227[11:37:44] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, well, now i believe you
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2228[11:37:48] <forcerecon> any chance we can get the nvidia
driver updated to 384.69
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2229[11:37:59] <Trap-Chan> hrm?
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2230[11:38:06] <well_laid_lawn> check in /tmp for a locck file
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2231[11:38:14] <well_laid_lawn> check in /tmp for a lock file
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2232[11:38:38] <Trap-Chan> is there a way to do so other than
using thunar?
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2234[11:38:57] <well_laid_lawn> ls
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2236[11:39:11] <well_laid_lawn> el ess
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2237[11:39:38] <Trap-Chan> k did ls /tmp/ and there is no lock
file in it.
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2238[11:40:04] <well_laid_lawn> try ls -a
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2239[11:40:22] <Trap-Chan> .x0-lock
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2241[11:40:32] <well_laid_lawn> not apt
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2242[11:40:42] <well_laid_lawn> ok
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2246[11:41:05] <well_laid_lawn> something has the apt database
loccked
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2248[11:41:27] <Trap-Chan> can you ls for a specific file like
dir in dos? somethign like ls -a /tmp/ *lock*?
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2249[11:41:45] <well_laid_lawn> line 43 in our paste
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2252[11:43:01] <Trap-Chan> at line 50 i ran the argument it tells
me to
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2253[11:43:16] <Trap-Chan> 45* sorry
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2259[11:45:44] <cruncher> no, its nothing locked
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2260[11:45:58] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, can you paste the
/etc/apt/sources.list file?
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2263[11:47:29] <cruncher> there is obviously some problem on your
system, the dpkg-reconfigure should work without problems
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2266[11:48:00] <Trap-Chan> paste.debian.net/982658
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2285[11:51:57] <Trap-Chan> cruncher, any chance you are seeing
what i may have done wrong?
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2286[11:52:16] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, did you just install debian?
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2287[11:52:21] <Trap-Chan> yep
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2288[11:52:46] <Trap-Chan> it's been a surprisingly buggy
start.
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2289[11:53:13] <h4s3> eine wanze startet
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2296[11:57:21] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, ls -l
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libdvd-pkg.list
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2298[11:58:05] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, or better .../libdvd-pkg* to
see if all is there
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2303[11:59:43] <Trap-Chan> 6 files
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2305[12:00:03] <Trap-Chan> config, list, md5sums, postinst
templates
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2306[12:00:16] <Trap-Chan> and postrm oops
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2307[12:00:27] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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2314[12:02:39] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, try apt-get install
--reinstall libdvd-pkg
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2319[12:05:19] <Trap-Chan> no change. though it didn't say
the thing about the lock this time.
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2321[12:05:33] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, yeah, try now
dpkg-reconfigure
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2324[12:05:42] <Trap-Chan> that's how i know there is no
change
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2325[12:05:45] <Trap-Chan> it says still not installed
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2328[12:07:52] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, when you did install the
package, did you get a "window" (where you had to press
Ok) telling you what you do?
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2331[12:08:45] <Trap-Chan> i got a cli "window" saying
that if i say yes libdvdcss2 will support auto update or something
like that.
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2343[12:11:12] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, what say dpkg -l libdvd-pkg
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2346[12:11:31] <cruncher> the first 1 letters in fron of package
name
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2347[12:11:35] <cruncher> *2 letters
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2350[12:13:22] <Trap-Chan> ii
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2351[12:13:48] <cruncher> its really strange it says the package
is not installed
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2352[12:13:51] <Trap-Chan> paste.debian.net/982664/ <<
fwiw.
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2356[12:15:45] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, to be sure, dpkg-query -s
libdvd-pkg, and check the "Status:" line
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2357[12:16:16] <cruncher> it should say "install ok
installed"
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2358[12:16:30] <Trap-Chan> installed ok installed
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2359[12:16:34] <cruncher> then, to test, do dpkg-reconfigure
console-setup
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2360[12:16:41] <cruncher> if it shows you something, just press
cancel
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2362[12:17:34] <Trap-Chan> ...command not found?
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2364[12:17:51] <Trap-Chan> haven't we been using that
command though?
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2365[12:17:54] <cruncher> check spelling
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2370[12:18:50] <Trap-Chan> ahh it's because i forgot to sudo
it.
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2371[12:19:06] <bazhang> hahaha
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2372[12:19:12] <cruncher> yeah
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2374[12:19:16] <bazhang> that'll do it
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2375[12:19:24] <cruncher> or i could have mentioned it, but i
dont every time...
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2378[12:20:11] <Trap-Chan> ok so one thing says it's
installed and the other says no?
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2379[12:20:24] <cruncher> so it worked? did you press cancel?
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2380[12:20:26] <Trap-Chan> anyway doing the console-setup brought
up a window yeah.
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2382[12:20:42] <cruncher> yeah, thats the strange thing.. all
"seems" to work, but not on the libdvd-pkg
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2383[12:20:47] <cruncher> but it does here when i tested it
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2384[12:21:10] <Trap-Chan> the query sees the package but nothing
else. so weird.
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2387[12:22:53] <Trap-Chan> if we figure this out will this lib
make cody see dvds too or will this only effect vlc and we'll
need another package for kodi?
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2395[12:26:20] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, dpkg -P libdvd-pkg
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2397[12:26:37] <Trap-Chan> this one is sudo yeah?
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2399[12:26:47] <cruncher> yeah
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2401[12:27:21] <cruncher> then, cd /var/cache/apt/archives, then
dpkg -i libdvd-pkg and press TAB
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2403[12:27:37] <Trap-Chan> dependancy problems
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2405[12:28:21] <cruncher> paste
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2408[12:28:55] <Trap-Chan> well something odd. on a whim i
decided to try opening vlc with my dvd again. and this time it
worked just dandy.
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2410[12:29:38] <Trap-Chan> should i still paste?
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2411[12:29:43] <cruncher> yes
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2413[12:31:39] <Trap-Chan> paste.debian.net/982668
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2414[12:31:55] <cruncher> lol
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2417[12:32:08] <cruncher> you already installed libdvdcss2
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2418[12:32:44] <Trap-Chan> ... ... ...i just wasted a ton of your
time, i am so bloody sorry. somehow when doing the reconfig i typed
lb not lib and kept making that same typo i'm guessing.
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2419[12:32:48] <cruncher> Trap-Chan, whats output of dpkg -l
libdvdcss2
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2420[12:32:58] <cruncher> what version does it show
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2422[12:33:49] <Trap-Chan> 1.4.0-1-loca
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2423[12:33:58] <cruncher> so you already doenloaded &
installed it
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2424[12:34:03] <cruncher> resp, compiled
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2425[12:34:11] <cruncher> how could you not note that?
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2427[12:34:20] <cruncher> well, anyway
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2428[12:34:34] <cruncher> issue "solved"
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2432[12:35:57] <Trap-Chan> now just to figure out loading in
chromium-widevine so i can netflix on this box. :P
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2436[12:38:02] <Trap-Chan> looks like it depends on a version of
chromium that isn't available on the repo?
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2438[12:38:29] <cruncher> Pymous, #859187
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2439[12:38:30] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2452[12:47:58] <ChrisH> I just replaced a failed Disk in an mdadm
Raid via (fdisk, mdadm --add, grub-install, update-grub); Did I
missed something?
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2462[12:52:31] <Trap-Chan> have any of you gotten netflix on
debian?
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2464[12:53:07] <unixbassen> Trap-Chan: I belive you can watch
netflix through firefox
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2465[12:53:20] <bazhang> Trap-Chan, with firefox?
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2466[12:53:33] <Trap-Chan> it takes me to a page saying that with
the right browser i can watch it.
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2467[12:53:36] <unixbassen>
replaced-url
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2468[12:53:52] <unixbassen> Trap-Chan: this might help ^
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2473[12:56:15] <Trap-Chan> hrm...seems i need a newer version of
firefox than the debian repo supports?
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2474[12:56:28] <bazhang> ,v firefox
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2475[12:56:29] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 --
jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 55.0.2-1
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2476[12:56:36] <bazhang> which one
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2477[12:56:49] <funabashi> hi guys can anyone be nice and tell me
about when i do command "w" i see load, load average:
0.03, 0.04, 0.16 what does this mean? CPU and memory or what?
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2478[12:56:53] <Trap-Chan> 49 i have 45 and apt-get says
it's up to date.
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2480[12:57:57] <Trap-Chan> ohh gotta add backports.
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2481[12:58:07] <cruncher> funabashi, man w
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2482[12:58:09] <Trap-Chan> but wait that says jessie not stretch.
so i'm screwed?
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2484[12:58:29] <cruncher> under Description, first section
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2485[13:00:18] <funabashi> cruncher: ok lets say i had high load
on this 1 hour ago, how can i further troubleshoot this ?
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2486[13:00:28] <funabashi> other than var/log/messages
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2490[13:02:45] <cruncher> funabashi, i dont think thats possible,
since you dont have anything configured that records continuous cpu
usage
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2491[13:03:37] <cruncher> if i understood you corretly that you
want to find out which process was using lets say 100% 1h ago
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2495[13:04:52] <Trap-Chan> wow i durped hard again. didn't
reset firefox-esr when i updated it so it was still running the old
version. so used to updates forcing me to rebootthe app.
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2501[13:07:07] <bezaban> funabashi: for future use you can
install sysstat
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2502[13:07:34] <cruncher> funabashi, for future, install some
monitoring software, or check out tool sar (package sysstat)
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2503[13:07:54] <Pymous> Thanks you cruncher for the bug report
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2505[13:08:36] <Pymous> Sadly, I don't understand how to fix
it cruncher
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2506[13:08:39] <bezaban> actually, not sure if that would give
you process/pid info
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2507[13:09:05] <cruncher> Pymous, did you install/change
something related to openssl?
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2508[13:09:26] <Pymous> Before upgrading to stretch, I installed
the stretch version of openssl on my jessie
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2509[13:09:58] <Pymous> Do I need to reinstall openssl ?
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2517[13:11:55] <Pymous> apt-get install --reinstall openssl
doesn't fix the issue
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2523[13:16:28] <cruncher> Pymous, if you can, whats the exact
curl command you use?
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2524[13:16:38] <Pymous> curl
replaced-url
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2525[13:16:40] <Pymous> Nothing more
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2535[13:21:17] <cruncher> Pymous, i guess you have libssl1.0.2
installed? also try
replaced-url
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2536[13:22:33] <Pymous> cruncher : 1.1.0f-3
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2537[13:22:46] <Pymous> I tried googling the issue, but it's
not clear
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2539[13:23:28] <cruncher> Pymous, thats the version for
libssl1.1, not libssl1.0.2
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2540[13:23:45] <Pymous> It's the openssl version, sorry
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2543[13:25:18] <Pymous> cruncher : Is that what you wan't to
now ? libssl1.0-dev_1.0.2
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2544[13:25:41] <cruncher> no, name of package libssl1.0.2
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2546[13:26:53] <Pymous> Installed: 1.0.2l-2
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2548[13:27:04] <cruncher> ok
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2550[13:27:15] <cruncher> and curl version?
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2555[13:27:35] <Pymous> Installed: 7.52.1-5
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2556[13:27:39] <Pymous> For cURL
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2557[13:27:39] <FinalX> Pymous: apt-cache policy openssl
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2558[13:27:51] <Pymous> openSSL : Installed: 1.1.0f-3
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2560[13:28:40] <FinalX> but check below it, is the one you have
installed from the stretch repo? (the installed one is denoted with
*** in front)
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2561[13:28:53] <FinalX> if so, then you already have the stretch
repo package
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2562[13:29:11] <Pymous> FinalX : The full output of the policy
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2563[13:29:11] <Pymous>
replaced-url
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2566[13:29:40] <FinalX> ah, you use "stable" instead of
"stretch", but stable is currently stretch, so should be
fine
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2567[13:29:53] <cruncher> Pymous, make sure you have libssh2-1
instaleld, since the function is there
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2568[13:30:15] <cruncher> v 1.7.0-1
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2569[13:30:35] <Pymous> cruncher : libssh2-1 is already the
newest version (1.7.0-1).
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2570[13:30:55] <cruncher> Pymous, try reinstalling it
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2572[13:30:56] <Pymous> Thanks for helping by the way
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2574[13:31:22] <Pymous> cruncher : apt-get install --reinstall
libssh2-1 : done
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2575[13:31:35] <Pymous> Do I need to restart something ? Or I
just try to curl ?
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2576[13:31:58] <cruncher> Pymous, and also check which libcurl3
lib you have... libcurl3-gnutls?
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2577[13:32:00] <cruncher> yes
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2578[13:32:07] <cruncher> just try
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2580[13:32:15] <Pymous> Same error
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2581[13:32:22] <Pymous> libcurl3-gnutls is already the newest
version (7.52.1-5).
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2582[13:33:31] <cruncher> Pymous, what say ldd -r
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4 | grep ssl
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2583[13:33:39] <cruncher> *says
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2584[13:34:01] <Pymous>
replaced-url
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2588[13:36:06] <\renaud> hello
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2590[13:36:20] <\renaud> is there a way to restrict a network
interface to either 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
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2591[13:36:26] <cruncher> Pymous, this isnt a newly installed
system,right?
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2592[13:36:33] <Trap-Chan> does debian have something akin to the
autostart folder in windows?
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2593[13:36:48] <Pymous> cruncher : Nop, it's a rather
"old" +2 years, installed on jessie, updated to stretch
yesterday
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2594[13:37:02] <Pymous> Trap-Chan : /etc/init.d
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2596[13:37:29] <cruncher> try more like ~/.config/autostart
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2598[13:37:47] <Pymous> or update-rc.d
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2600[13:37:55] <Pymous> Plenty of options, depending on what
you're trying to do :)
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2601[13:38:01] <cruncher> Pymous, rename the file
"/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0" to ***.old,
and try again
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2602[13:38:13] <cruncher> yes, but those need root to do it ;-)
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2603[13:38:22] <cruncher> and are system wide
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2608[13:38:46] <Pymous> cruncher : curl: error while loading
shared libraries: libssl.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file:
No such file or directory
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2609[13:38:57] <cruncher> Pymous, seems you have some
"survivors" from oldstable, and my guess is they interfere
with the newer version
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2611[13:39:17] <Pymous> probably, but how can I clean it up ?
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2612[13:39:42] <Pymous> and you're right, all my proposition
does require root, yours is more suitable for a user
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2613[13:39:54] <cruncher> Pymous, run ldconfig after renaming the
file
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2618[13:40:26] <Pymous> cruncher : same error (cannot open shared
object file)
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2619[13:41:12] <Trap-Chan> so if i just want steam to boot in BP
when the computer is turned on what would be the best method?
i'm thinking i'll have this HTPC up and running if i set
netflix as home in firefox, add firefox and kodi to the steam apps
and set steam to autostart.
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2620[13:41:17] <cruncher> Pymous, well, instead of
reinstalling/dpkg-reconfiguring all related packages, you could try
a reboot
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2621[13:41:28] <cruncher> Pymous, are all your püackages
uptodate?
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2622[13:41:38] <cruncher> i just hope nothign fancy needs the old
version
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2623[13:41:47] <Pymous> It's kinda a production server, if I
can avoid it, it would be nice (I still can, if really needed)
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2624[13:41:56] <FinalX> apt list --installed | grep -v
'/stable,'
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2625[13:41:56] <cruncher> Pymous, then dont
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2626[13:41:59] <Pymous> And I rebooted this night once already
after the dist upgrade
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2627[13:42:08] <Pymous> All my packages are uptodate
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2628[13:42:28] <cruncher> Pymous, just reinstall libcurl3
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2629[13:42:39] <Pymous> FinalX :
replaced-url
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2631[13:42:47] <FinalX> Pymous: with apt list --installed, you
can get a list of all your installed packages, packages that belong
to your current stable, will be <packagename>/stable at the
start of each line. anything else is foreign.
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2634[13:43:12] <Pymous> cruncher :
replaced-url
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2635[13:43:35] <FinalX> ....seems like a hell of a lot of
external/foreign packages that are not coming from your stable
source. I don't know what "/now" is though.
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2636[13:44:16] <FinalX> I also see in the list, amongst other
things: libssl1.0.0/now 1.0.1t-1+deb8u6 amd64 [installed,local]
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2638[13:44:25] <FinalX> that's not stretch's own
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2639[13:44:26] <Pymous> FinalX : apt list --installed =>
replaced-url
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2640[13:44:31] <cruncher> oh, you have a package installed named
libssl1.0.0
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2641[13:44:40] <Pymous> Do I remove it ?
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2642[13:44:41] <cruncher> may we see your sources.list?
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2643[13:44:44] <Pymous> Ofc
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2644[13:45:07] <Pymous>
replaced-url
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2645[13:45:09] <FinalX> You have 3 installed libssl packages.
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2646[13:45:14] <Pymous> Everything else (older version) is
commented
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2647[13:45:18] <FinalX> That's bound to go wrong.
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2648[13:45:26] <Pymous> I'd gladly kick them out
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2649[13:45:30] <FinalX> You should probably apt-get remove
libssl1.0.0/now
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2650[13:45:34] <cruncher> FinalX, yep, thas the problem he
experiences right now
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2652[13:45:52] <cruncher> yes, remove 1.0.0, then you'll see
if somethign depends on it
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2653[13:45:54] <FinalX> the rest is from "stable", so
that's correct
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2654[13:45:55] <Pymous> apt purge libssl1.0-dev libssl1.0.0
libssl1.0.2 libssl1.1 ?
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2656[13:46:01] <Pymous> Or just the 1.0.0 ?
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2659[13:46:06] <cruncher> leave the 1.0.2
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2660[13:46:08] <FinalX> no, just the libssl1.0.0, but
specifically libssl1.0.0/now
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2661[13:46:25] <cruncher> important is to remove the 1.0.0
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2662[13:46:34] <cruncher> thats the culprit
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2663[13:46:45] <Pymous> And I reinstall it after ?
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2665[13:46:56] <cruncher> no
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2666[13:47:01] <FinalX> as you can see, on the same line it ends
with "local", which means it is not from a repository you
have currently configured
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2667[13:47:17] <Pymous> cruncher : curl: error while loading
shared libraries: libssl.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file:
No such file or directory
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2668[13:47:20] <Pymous> ldconf ?
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2670[13:47:31] <cruncher> did you remove 1.0.0?
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2671[13:47:36] <Pymous> Yes
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2672[13:47:48] <cruncher> no, ldconfig should have been run
postinst
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2673[13:47:54] <Pymous> (and it removed my Percona, but meh, it
can hold a minute)
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2674[13:47:54] <FinalX> Pymous: your curl version comes from both
stable and "now", try reinstalling it after removing that
libssl
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2677[13:48:11] <FinalX> ah, I guess some of your other packages
weren't ready to go to stretch yet, then :|
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2678[13:48:49] <Pymous> They can wait, it's just a database,
a bit of downtime won't bother if it's "short"
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2679[13:49:15] <Pymous> So I removed libssl1.0 and reinstalled
curl
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2680[13:49:17] <Pymous> curl: error while loading shared
libraries: libssl.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory
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2681[13:49:19] <Pymous> Stil this error
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2682[13:49:20] <FinalX> well, "just", I see mysqlclient
installed, and stretch doesn't have mysql
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2684[13:49:26] <FinalX> odd. hm.
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2685[13:49:27] <cruncher> like finalx says...
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2688[13:49:53] <FinalX> Pymous: try reinstalling the other
libssl's, it might've shared paths before and messed
things up, same happens with debian nginx packages and those of
nginx.org
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2689[13:50:16] <FinalX> and removing the 1.0.0 will not have
restored the other package's links
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2690[13:50:17] <Pymous> It seems that libcurl still expect
libssl1.0.0 :
replaced-url
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2692[13:50:25] <ws2k3> systemd show me that i have loaded
/system.slice/mysql.service but where can i find this file?
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2693[13:50:37] <Pymous> FinalX : So I purge every libssl I have
on the list ?
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2695[13:50:50] <abrotman> ws2k3: that's just mysql ..
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2696[13:50:52] <cruncher> Pymous, no, many packages depend on
them, and you would have to remove them all if you do
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2697[13:50:54] <FinalX> no, just forcibly reinstall over it
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2698[13:50:59] <cruncher> ^
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2699[13:51:17] <Pymous> Here is my installed package right now :
replaced-url
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2700[13:51:47] <cruncher> Pymous, and do "ldd -r
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4 | grep ssl" again
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2703[13:52:03] <Pymous> FinalX : apt-get install libssl1.0-dev
libssl1.0.2 libssl1.1 then ?
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2704[13:52:22] <Pymous> cruncher :
replaced-url
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2705[13:52:55] <FinalX> curl depends on libssl1.0.2 AND
libssl1.1; libssl1.0.2 should provide the 1.0.0. links afaik
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2706[13:53:10] <cruncher> Pymous, lsof | grep libssl
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2707[13:53:27] <FinalX> i just started a stretch container, gonna
go check
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2710[13:54:11] <FinalX> libssl.so.1.0.2 =>
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.2 (0x00007f87c56f2000)
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2714[13:54:51] <FinalX> that's what stretch's own curl
seems to use out of the box. and that is provided by libssl1.0.2
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2715[13:54:59] <cruncher> Pymous, still, even if curl would work,
that percona wouldnt since it depends on 1.0.0
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2716[13:55:14] <Pymous> cruncher : The lsof you asked :
replaced-url
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2717[13:55:25] <Pymous> cruncher : I will bother with Percona
later, don't worry
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2718[13:55:36] <FinalX> cruncher: well, in jessie libssl1.0.0 was
also provided by higher
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2726[13:58:30] <cruncher> probably it wasnt removed because a
installed package (percona) depended on it
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2727[13:59:26] <Pymous> cruncher :
replaced-url
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2728[13:59:33] <Pymous> I have this weird output trying to
reinstall
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2729[13:59:38] <Pymous> to purge
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2730[13:59:39] <Pymous> sorry
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2731[13:59:44] <FinalX> yeah, that percona thing makes most
sense. hm.
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2732[13:59:54] <Pymous> FinalX : I removed the percona package
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2733[14:00:06] <FinalX> Pymous: noooo, don't purge. forcibly
reinstall them, a lot will depend on them. half the system will.
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2734[14:00:31] <FinalX> apt install --reinstall libssl1.0-dev
libssl1.0.2 libssl1.1
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2735[14:00:43] <Pymous>
replaced-url
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2736[14:00:50] <cruncher> Pymous, remove only 1.0.0, reinstall
(overwrite) the others
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2738[14:00:59] <FinalX> it'll fetch them again, unpack them
again (and thus overwriting existing files) and run the processing
scripts again
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2739[14:01:20] <cruncher> Pymous, just curious... lsof | grep
libcurl
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2741[14:01:52] <FinalX> what if you do the same for curl? apt
install --reinstall curl ?
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2742[14:01:58] <Pymous> removed 1.0.0-dev, reinstalled 1.0.2 and
1.1, still the cannot open error
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2743[14:02:06] <Pymous> the lsof doesn't return anything
cruncher
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2744[14:02:09] <FinalX> what the heck :)
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2745[14:02:17] <cruncher> apt-get install --reinstall curl
libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls
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2746[14:02:26] <Pymous> FinalX : no change when reinstalling curl
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2749[14:02:41] <Pymous> cruncher : Stil the error :(
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2757[14:04:06] <Pymous> cruncher : ldd -r
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4 | grep ssl still return
libssl.so.1.0.0 => not found
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2758[14:04:13] <Pymous> It's like it's keep on
excpecting it
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2759[14:04:23] <FinalX> it does, but why o.O
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2760[14:04:30] <Pymous> Good question
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2761[14:04:40] <FinalX> dpkg -S
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
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2762[14:04:40] <dpkg> You Fool!
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4 is installed!
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2763[14:04:45] <FinalX> hush, dpkg
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2764[14:04:46] <Pymous> I don't have a good answer sadly :(
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2765[14:04:57] <Pymous> FinalX : libcurl3:amd64:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
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2766[14:05:13] <FinalX> Pymous: with that you can find out which
package that file came from. then you can apt-cache policy it, or
maybe reinstall it, as well
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2767[14:05:30] <FinalX> as per cruncher's earlier
suggestion.. not sure you actually did that too already
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2768[14:05:43] <Pymous> So apt-get install --reinstall
libcurl3:amd64 ?
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2769[14:05:50] <FinalX> yes
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2771[14:06:13] <FinalX> it _could_ be that libcurl is in use by
other things, hence cruncher's lsof earlier. in that case it
might need restarting of other services that depend on it
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2772[14:06:13] <Pymous> Same error, libcurl still expecting 1.0.0
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2775[14:06:27] <Pymous> lsof | grep libcurl ?
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2776[14:06:28] <Pymous> This lsof ?
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2777[14:06:32] <cruncher> yeah, thats why i bet a reboot will do
wonders
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2778[14:06:35] <FinalX> yeah. i'm betting it's your
PHP.
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2779[14:06:45] <Pymous> the lsof doesn't return anything
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2780[14:06:47] <FinalX> PHP also uses curl.
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2782[14:07:16] <FinalX> eh, actually. not so sure since you
don't have its module installed. but you also seem to have
leftover PHP5 images, too.
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2783[14:07:23] <FinalX> packages*
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2784[14:07:29] <Pymous> I stoped my fpm
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2785[14:07:39] <Pymous> ldd still expect 1.0.0
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2786[14:08:07] <FinalX> Pymous: apt-cache rdepends libcurl3
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2787[14:08:14] <FinalX> then you get a list of packages that
depend on that package
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2790[14:08:54] <FinalX> oh, you might want to use --installed as
parameter to see INSTALLED packages that depend on it
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2792[14:08:56] <Pymous> FinalX : Quite a lot :
replaced-url
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2794[14:09:13] <FinalX> Pymous: sorry, I should've mentioned
that --installed first. been a while for me :)
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2795[14:09:19] <Pymous>
replaced-url
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2796[14:09:21] <Pymous> Much shorter :D
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2797[14:09:31] <bollo> how can I stop gnome from muting sound
when screen is turned off?
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2798[14:09:47] <FinalX> eh, ok. so only curl itself. maybe just
apt-get remove --purge curl libcurl3; apt-get install curl # ?
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2799[14:09:49] <Vizva> gpg: failed to start the dirmngr
'/usr/bin/dirmngr'
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2800[14:09:59] <Vizva> in debian 9
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2801[14:10:00] * FinalX starts to run out of ideas
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2804[14:10:20] <Pymous> FinalX : Done, still the error :(
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2805[14:10:22] <Vizva> i did reinstall
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2806[14:11:07] <Pymous> FinalX : Which package do I need to
remove/reinstall and reboot then ?
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2808[14:11:26] <cruncher> Pymous, ldconfig -p | grep libssl
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2810[14:11:47] <Pymous> cruncher :
replaced-url
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2817[14:12:19] <cruncher> Pymous, so its not anymore in the cahe.
good. Now we have to find out why curl still uses the (removed)
1.0.0
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2818[14:12:25] <cruncher> s/cahe/cache
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2820[14:12:40] <FinalX> Pymous: this is the output on a fresh
stretch system
replaced-url
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2822[14:12:50] <cruncher> Pymous, ps aux | grep curl
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2829[14:12:57] <hellyeah> how to add support for "386"
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2831[14:13:12] <gpunk> i386 ?
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2832[14:13:15] <Pymous> cruncher : The only line : root 35978 0.0
0.0 12784 1024 pts/1 S+ 14:13 0:00 grep curl
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2833[14:13:24] <FinalX> cruncher / Pymous: why is there a
libssl3.so and no libssl.so ?
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2834[14:13:25] <Pymous> FinalX : I don't doubt it, sadly,
this isn't a fresh one :(
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2835[14:13:26] <cruncher> Pymous, good, no hung process
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2836[14:13:28] <Pymous> It's my old friend
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2839[14:13:48] <cruncher> Pymous, lsof | grep curl
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2842[14:13:55] <FinalX> Pymous: I pasted it so you can find
discrepancies between yours and a fresh one, to figure out what you
have that shouldn't be there, and what you don't have that
should.
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2843[14:13:56] <cruncher> will be quite a lot probably.. but lets
see
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2849[14:14:06] <Pymous> cruncher : no line
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2850[14:14:15] <FinalX> you are missing: libssl.so (libc6,x86-64)
=> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so
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2851[14:14:25] <FinalX> you have that shouldn't be there:
libssl3.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl3.so
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2853[14:14:39] <FinalX> so there's still something weird
going on with the ssl libs.
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2854[14:14:44] <Pymous> I have no idea where libssl3 is coming
from
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2862[14:15:06] <hellyeah> gpunk: i386 yea
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2864[14:15:13] <gpunk> ti what ?
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2865[14:15:16] <gpunk> to*
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2866[14:15:33] <cruncher> FinalX, on my fresh stretch i dont have
libssl.so either
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2868[14:15:49] <FinalX> cruncher: i installed curl and openssl
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2870[14:16:12] <cruncher> hellyeah, dpkg --add-architecture i386
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2872[14:16:23] <ioria> cruncher, it's in libssl-dev i guess
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2873[14:16:44] <hellyeah> thanmkls
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2874[14:16:46] <hellyeah> thanks
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2876[14:16:48] <cruncher> ioria, yeah,. just saying... its not on
a "fresh" stretch
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2877[14:16:56] <ioria> yep
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2880[14:17:05] <cruncher> (without having installed it manually)
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2881[14:17:29] <cruncher> meaning, dont worry about libssl.so
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2883[14:17:32] <Pymous> FinalX : How can I find which package
those .so are coming from ?
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2884[14:17:34] <cruncher> Pymous, ^
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2885[14:17:46] <Pymous> I don't worry about any files, I
like all the files
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2886[14:17:55] <cruncher> the problem, i instaleld 1.0.0 to get
the same error, but i cant reproduce :D
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2887[14:17:57] <Pymous> But I worry about not having a working
curl :D
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2889[14:18:08] <Pymous> cruncher : I don't have 1.0.0
installed anymore
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2890[14:18:12] <cruncher> i know
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2891[14:18:32] <cruncher> Pymous, are you on a terminal? or on
tty?
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2893[14:18:49] <Pymous> terminal
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2894[14:19:03] <cruncher> close it, and open new one
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2895[14:19:20] <Pymous> done, then ?
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2896[14:19:23] <cruncher> try again
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2897[14:19:31] <forcerecon> can anyone help me solve this non
issue, just to clean up boot -
replaced-url
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2898[14:19:35] <Pymous> Same issue
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2902[14:21:00] <cruncher> forcerecon, "issue"? ... just
enter the password :D
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2903[14:21:28] <forcerecon> yeah I am aware of the password, but
what about the lines before the request
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2904[14:21:33] <gpunk> unless some hacker encrypted your drivee
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2905[14:21:37] <cruncher> forcerecon, they are normal
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2907[14:21:48] <cruncher> first it tries to oen it normally,
hence the messages
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2908[14:21:55] <cruncher> s/oen/open
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2909[14:22:14] <forcerecon> ahh... I understand now..
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2910[14:22:18] <forcerecon> okeedo
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2911[14:22:23] <forcerecon> thanks
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2912[14:22:26] <cruncher> np
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2917[14:24:33] <hellyeah> Archive:
android-studio-ide-162.4069837-linux.zip caution: filename not
matched: ../../../opt/
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2918[14:24:43] <hellyeah> do you know the meaning of that error?
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2919[14:24:49] <Pymous> cruncher / FinalX : Is that normal ?
replaced-url
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2920[14:25:10] <Vizva> someone knows anything about my missing
dirmngr in gnupg?
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2921[14:25:17] <ioria> Pymous, btw, libssl3 should be from
libnss3
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2922[14:25:46] <Pymous> Like I said ioria, sadly, I don't
know where libssl3 even come from :(
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2923[14:25:58] <cruncher> Pymous, yes, those 6 files are ok
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2924[14:26:09] <ioria> Pymous, i told you
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2926[14:26:16] <Pymous> Including a reboot, what can I do now ?
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2927[14:26:29] <Pymous> ioria : Sorry, I didn't saw then
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2930[14:28:00] <cruncher> Pymous, do you have another user you
can "su" to and try curl? want to know if maybe its user
related
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2931[14:28:11] <Pymous> Yup
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2933[14:28:28] <Pymous> bethel@clapity:~$ curl
replaced-url
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2934[14:28:28] <Pymous> curl: error while loading shared
libraries: libssl.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory
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2935[14:28:30] <Pymous> Same issue
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2936[14:28:41] <cruncher> (just coming up with ideas to not to
reboot and to get to know the problem better) :D
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2937[14:28:43] <Pymous> (by the way, I still have the ***.so we
renamed earlier, if needed)
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2938[14:28:57] <Pymous> If rebooting is the easiest way to fix
it, let's go
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2940[14:29:06] <cruncher> well. a dirty hack/test you can try:
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2941[14:29:08] <Pymous> With PHP and my database down, except the
IRC, I don't have much left :D
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2942[14:29:24] <Iridos> you manually deleted/moved the runtime
library…
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2943[14:29:32] <Iridos> you should probably at least run ldconfig
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2944[14:29:35] <Pymous> Iridos : As asked, yes
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2945[14:29:38] <Pymous> I did yes
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2946[14:30:06] <cmhobbs> i've got claws-mail and gpg
installed. claws-mail used to pop up a prompt asking for my password
but now it sasy "inappropriate ioctl for device" unless i
decrypt something in a terminal first (which pops up a text prompt
for my password). does anyone know what package provides that
graphical password prompt?
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2949[14:30:40] <Iridos> well, try to remove the package with
apt-get … maybe move the library back before
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2951[14:30:57] <Iridos> it should tell you if anything depends on
that
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2952[14:31:06] <Iridos> hm, actually
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2961[14:32:36] <cruncher> Pymous, ln -s
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.2
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0
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2963[14:32:39] <Iridos> judd, versions libssl1.0.2
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2964[14:32:41] <judd> Package: libssl1.0.2 on amd64 -- buster:
1.0.2l-2; sid: 1.0.2l-2; stretch: 1.0.2l-2
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2965[14:32:43] <Iridos> judd, versions libssl1.0.0
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2966[14:32:44] <judd> Package: libssl1.0.0 on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.0.1e-2+deb7u20; wheezy-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb7u2; jessie:
1.0.1t-1+deb8u6; jessie-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u6; jessie-backports:
1.0.2l-1~bpo8+1
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2968[14:33:01] <Pymous> cruncher : That's real dirty
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2969[14:33:02] <Iridos> judd, versions libcurl
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2970[14:33:02] <Pymous> I like it
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2971[14:33:03] <judd> No package named 'libcurl' was
found in amd64.
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2972[14:33:15] <cruncher> ldconfig afterwards, then try again
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2974[14:33:31] <Pymous> cruncher :
root@clapity:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# ldd -r
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4 | grep ssl
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2975[14:33:31] <Pymous> libssl.so.1.0.2 =>
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.2 (0x00007f7cf2255000)
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2977[14:33:32] <Pymous> Sorry
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2978[14:33:49] <cruncher> and curl htt...?
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2979[14:33:50] <Pymous> But yet, curl : curl: error while loading
shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory
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2982[14:34:15] <Pymous> That was clever
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2983[14:34:18] <Iridos> judd, versions libcurl3
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2984[14:34:19] <judd> Package: libcurl3 on amd64 -- wheezy:
7.26.0-1+wheezy13; wheezy-security: 7.26.0-1+wheezy20; jessie:
7.38.0-4+deb8u5; jessie-security: 7.38.0-4+deb8u5; stretch:
7.52.1-5; buster: 7.55.0-1; sid: 7.55.0-1
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2985[14:34:31] <Pymous> Oh wait, it's libcrypto.so it's
looking for now
-
2986[14:35:17] <Pymous> ln -s
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.2
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0
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2987[14:35:18] <Iridos> if nothing vital still depends on
libssl1.0.0, you should remove the package anyway
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2988[14:35:21] <Pymous> Let's stay dirty
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2989[14:35:25] <Iridos> and actually apt-get autoremove should do
it
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2990[14:35:26] <Pymous> Iridos : It's removed
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2991[14:35:29] <cruncher> Pymous, since there are only 2 *.so
files in the package, lets try the same procedure with libcrypto
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2992[14:35:31] <Pymous> It doesn't
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2993[14:35:46] <cruncher> Iridos, the package was removed long
ago
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2994[14:35:57] <Iridos> I thought only the .so file was removed
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2995[14:36:10] <Pymous> cruncher : New mission :
replaced-url
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2996[14:36:18] <cruncher> Pymous, rename the libcrypto, then ln
-s it again like before (but change then names of course)
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2998[14:36:56] <Pymous> Already done cruncher, new error message
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2999[14:37:00] <cruncher> not backwards compatible
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3002[14:37:25] <Pymous> So I need libssl1.0, libssl1.0.2
doesn't include it ?
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3004[14:37:45] <cruncher> no, thats why they have different
versions in name
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3005[14:38:32] <cruncher> i would say revert all changes, remove
the libssl1.0.0 package, then reboot, and fix percona later (look
for newer version that has libssl1.0.2 as dependency)
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3010[14:39:56] <Iridos> judd, versions libcrypto.so.1.0.2
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3011[14:39:57] <judd> No package named
'libcrypto.so.1.0.2' was found in amd64.
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3013[14:40:06] <Iridos> judd, versions libcrypto-1.0.2
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3014[14:40:07] <judd> No package named
'libcrypto-1.0.2' was found in amd64.
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3015[14:40:23] <cruncher> Iridos, the file is in the same package
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3016[14:40:26] <Iridos> judd, versions libssl-1.0.2
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3017[14:40:27] <judd> No package named 'libssl-1.0.2'
was found in amd64.
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3019[14:40:37] <Iridos> judd, versions libssl1.0.2
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3020[14:40:38] <judd> Package: libssl1.0.2 on amd64 -- buster:
1.0.2l-2; sid: 1.0.2l-2; stretch: 1.0.2l-2
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3021[14:40:45] <Pymous> cruncher : so I remove the .so with
linked
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3022[14:40:49] <Iridos> sorry, bit noisy
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3023[14:40:50] <Pymous> remove 1.0.0 then reboot ?
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3024[14:41:00] <dontknow> sound suddenly was broken (pulseaudio)
sound come deep and echoed. where should i look first?
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3025[14:41:18] <Iridos> uh… reboot… why
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3026[14:41:25] <Pymous> Because nothing works ?
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3027[14:41:36] <Pymous> Except if you have another idea
-
3028[14:41:36] <Pymous> :3
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3029[14:41:38] <Iridos> well… switched-off computers
usually don't work better
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3030[14:41:39] <cruncher> Pymous, the symlinks
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 + libcrpyto.so.1.0.0
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3031[14:41:49] <Iridos> except as a doorstop
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3032[14:42:01] <Pymous> That's not really helpfull
isn't it ?
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3033[14:42:08] <Pymous> cruncher : Done
-
3034[14:42:12] <Iridos> well
-
3035[14:42:44] <Iridos> I was actually trying to think what could
have gone wrong
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3036[14:43:02] <cruncher> Pymous, wait, maybe iridos has an idea
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3037[14:43:12] <Iridos> the symlink-stuff makes it harder to come
up with something
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3038[14:43:16] <cruncher> basically all was fine, just curl still
wanted the old 1.0.0
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3039[14:43:31] <Iridos> if you removed the package… can
you show the ldd output again
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3040[14:43:35] <Pymous> Iridos : The symlink is reverted
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3041[14:43:35] <cruncher> Pymous, and you are sure you removed
the libssl1.0.0 package?
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3044[14:43:51] <Pymous> Package 'libssl1.0.0' is not
installed, so not removed
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3045[14:43:58] <cruncher> (i mean before, during all the trying)
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3046[14:44:14] <Pymous> The ldd changed :
replaced-url
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3047[14:44:22] <Pymous> cruncher : Yes, it was removed
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3048[14:44:54] <Iridos> so why do you still have a
libssl.so.1.0.0
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3049[14:45:26] <Pymous> That's the issue, basically
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3050[14:45:31] <Pymous> gnu still counting on the 1.0.0
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3051[14:45:34] <Pymous> Even if it's removed
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3052[14:45:44] <Iridos> no
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3053[14:45:45] <cruncher> Pymous, install libssl1.0.0 now, then
purge it again
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3054[14:46:01] <Iridos> you have a file
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 and you say you don't
have the package
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3055[14:46:10] <Pymous> cruncher :
replaced-url
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3056[14:46:26] <Pymous> Iridos : Exactly
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3057[14:46:30] <Iridos> all right… the continue doing
random shit that just muddies the waters more
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3058[14:46:37] <Iridos> good luck
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3059[14:46:43] <cruncher> Pymous, you should probably still have
it under /var/cache/apt/archives/libsll1...xxx, if so, install with
dpkg -i
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3060[14:47:05] <cruncher> like that it should be all of it
removed
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3062[14:47:18] <cruncher> but Iridos is right.. how come the
files are still there but the package not?
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3064[14:47:25] <Pymous> I don't know
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3066[14:47:38] <Pymous> i don't have a deb for 1.0.0, only
1.0.2
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3068[14:47:47] <Pymous> Or 1.0-dev (including 1.0.2)
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3069[14:47:47] <BluesKaj> conf files
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3071[14:47:53] <Iridos> just in general… re-installing the
same binaries doesn't usually change anything. if you have
doubts about package integrity (that is not caused by some malicious
intent), then use debsums
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3072[14:48:16] <cruncher> Pymous,
replaced-url
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3076[14:49:02] <Pymous> cruncher : installed
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3077[14:49:14] <Pymous> Back to the original issue : curl: symbol
lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4: undefined
symbol: libssh2_scp_recv2
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3078[14:49:19] <Pymous> So I purge it now ?
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3079[14:49:23] <cruncher> yes
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3080[14:49:29] <cruncher> purge libssl1.0.0
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3082[14:49:41] <cruncher> then all cfgs and files belonging to it
will be gone
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3084[14:50:40] <Pymous> Done
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3085[14:50:45] <Pymous>
replaced-url
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3087[14:51:24] <nodiscc> Hi I have a mysterious problem with a
simple samba file sharing setup (Debian server <-> Debian
client) and UFW. The server is up and running. I have allowed samba
traffic in UFW on both sides
(ports=135,137,138,445/udp|135,137,139,445/tcp). The
nf_conntrack_netbios_ns module is loaded.
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3088[14:51:33] <nodiscc> When I go to my client file manager >
Browse Network > Windows Network, it fails with "failed to
retrieve share list from server: no such file or directory",
and this appears in the client ufw log:
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3090[14:51:44] <nodiscc> [53337.586571] [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlan0 OUT=
MAC=[...] SRC=192.168.1.254 DST=192.168.1.9 LEN=90 TOS=0x00
PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=49657 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=137 DPT=42557 LEN=70
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3091[14:52:12] <nodiscc> So my home router (1.254) seems to try
to connect back to the client on a random high port??? Then it gets
blocked by the firewall and listing the windows machines on the
network fails. When I turn off the firewall entirely everything
works again. Having fw off is not acceptable so I'm looking for
whatever I may have missed. Help very appreciated, have been trying
to fix this for weeks
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3092[14:52:26] <Iridos> and ls -la
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4 says?
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3093[14:52:41] <Pymous> Iridos : lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Apr 19
12:19 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4 -> libcurl.so.4.4.0
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3097[14:54:14] <Pymous> nodiscc : Static IP ? (in the subnet ?)
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3098[14:54:40] <Pymous> .254 seems static to me
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3099[14:55:04] <Pymous> If it is, why not doing something along
this : ufw allow from 192.168.1.254 to any app Samba
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3100[14:55:28] <nodiscc> yes .254 is static (router/ISP box), 1.9
(client) and 1.38 (server) are from dhcp
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3101[14:55:55] <Pymous> cruncher : Do I reboot then ?
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3102[14:55:58] <Pymous> I'm a bit stuck there :D
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3104[14:56:29] <nodiscc> Pymous: already did this: ufw allow from
192.168.1.0/16 to any app Samba
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3105[14:56:42] <Iridos> libcurl.so.4.4.0 is correct for stretch
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3106[14:56:50] <Pymous> Iridos : ufw allow Samba ?
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3107[14:57:02] <Pymous> Sorry
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3108[14:57:05] <Pymous> nodiscc : ufw allow Samba ?
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3109[14:57:13] <nodiscc> but the ufw rule is only for DESTINATION
PORTS 135,137,138,445 and the connection attempt is SPT=137
DPT=42557
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3110[14:57:42] <nodiscc> DPT seems to be a random high port, it
changes on each attempt
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3112[14:57:58] <nodiscc> Pymous: tried that as well
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3113[14:58:01] <Pymous> Iridos : Any idea about what I can do ?
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3115[14:58:18] <PymousTemp> In case I need to reboot :D
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3116[14:58:50] <Iridos> I'm not running stretch, I'm
still on jessie
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3117[14:59:12] <Iridos> else I'd compare what ldd
libcurl.so.4.4.0 says on stretch
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3118[14:59:27] <Pymous> cruncher can probably help with that, I
guess
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3120[14:59:32] <Pymous> or FinalX
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3122[15:00:01] <Pymous> But if I recall, it was different for the
both of them
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3123[15:00:45] <Iridos> it shouldn't if they have the same
version of the library
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3125[15:01:07] <Iridos> also comparing checksums to really ensure
that would be a thing
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3131[15:03:10] <Iridos> debsums libcurl3 checks it against
locally installed checksums
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3132[15:03:24] <Iridos> but a randomly changed file wouldn't
try to link to something else
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3133[15:03:47] <Iridos> but trying to link against two versions
of the same library is extremely suspicious behavior
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3135[15:04:45] <Pymous> We reverted that
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3136[15:04:55] <cruncher> the files are ok, he reinstalled all
again, so no inconsistencies
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3137[15:05:00] <Iridos> no
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3138[15:05:06] <Pymous> What "no" ? o/
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3139[15:05:08] <cruncher> yes, they get overwritten of wrong
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3140[15:05:11] <Iridos> ldd shows it's looking for two
versions of libssl
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3141[15:05:15] <cruncher> s/of(if
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3142[15:05:25] <Pymous> Yeah
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3143[15:05:28] <Pymous> But we can't find why
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3144[15:05:31] <Pymous> That's the issue²
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3145[15:05:33] <cruncher> yes, thats the problem. what i mean is
checksums are not needed in this case
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3146[15:05:43] <cruncher> IF Pymous did it right ;-)
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3148[15:05:56] <Pymous> I'm not drunk, so it should be
pretty ok
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3150[15:06:03] <Pymous> Wan't a root access to check it
cruncher ? :D
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3151[15:06:09] <cruncher> yes
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3152[15:06:37] <Pymous> Really ? Coz' I'm doing it,
you've tried more than 1 hour, I can trust you on this one
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3153[15:06:43] <Pymous> (anyway, nothing more to lose ... o/ )
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3154[15:06:51] <cruncher> Pymous, lol..thats no reason for trust
;-)
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3156[15:06:59] <Pymous> No, feeling probably help
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3158[15:07:10] <Iridos> sure checksums are needed… if
you're comparing to another system there's no point being
unsure if you're comparing apples with elephants
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3159[15:07:47] <cruncher> Iridos, of course... but if the
packages are ok, the files will be too, even if modified previously
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3163[15:08:42] <cruncher> Pymous, if you are unsure if you
reinstalled, you can do apt clean, then reinstall them again
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3164[15:08:46] <Iridos> it's just the tiny difference
between guessing and knowing?
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3165[15:08:52] <cruncher> Iridos, it is knowing
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3166[15:09:06] <Iridos> because… if you knew what exactly
was wrong, you could just say?
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3167[15:09:06] <Pymous> Iridos : It's knowing, except if you
checksum every packet you install ?
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3168[15:09:08] <cruncher> but like i say, the commands at least,
pymous has the eyes
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3170[15:09:26] <Pymous> Iridos : I did your commands too, still
now idea about the issue
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3171[15:09:33] <cruncher> no, apt does check the packages
checksum already when you download
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3172[15:09:55] <Iridos> what does your ldd say
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3173[15:09:56] <cruncher> so no need to check them afterwards
directly after installation
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3176[15:10:22] <Iridos> what I want is to compare ldd with a
fresh stretch AND the checksum of the file
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3179[15:10:31] <Iridos> but I don't run stretch, alas, I
cannot
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3181[15:12:18] <Iridos> and ldd of the curl binary, too
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3189[15:17:32] <Iridos> hm, try doing strace -f -e open curl
replaced-url
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3252[15:41:03] <cruncher> Pymous,
replaced-url
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3262[15:42:25] <cruncher> Pymous, and run debsums -c curl
libcurl3 libssl1.0.2
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3300[15:56:42] <hexhaxtron[work]> I'm providing free
services to users. So far I got SSH, FTP, Proxy, PHP, Email
Accounts, Webmail, and Daily Backups. Any suggestions for more
services?
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3301[15:56:48] <hexhaxtron[work]> A Jabber Server would be nice
too.
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3302[15:57:25] <cruncher> hexhaxtron[work], answering your own
questions? ;-)
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3303[15:57:35] <hexhaxtron[work]> I guess so. :)
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3304[15:57:37] <cruncher> hexhaxtron[work], what
"users"? public?
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3306[15:57:44] <hexhaxtron[work]> Yes, public.
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3307[15:58:21] <cruncher> hexhaxtron[work], webpages? mumble?
there are many more, just a question of cpu/ram/bandwidth
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3312[15:59:29] <hexhaxtron[work]> cruncher: I got Apache too.
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3325[16:02:35] <hexhaxtron[work]> cruncher: Quad Core, 64GiB of
RAM, 1TiB of SSD and 6TiB of HDD.
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3328[16:02:56] <hexhaxtron[work]> 1 Gigabit/s of upstream and 1
Gigabit/s of downstream.
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3329[16:03:02] <cruncher> hexhaxtron[work], not bad... on how
many users were you thinking?
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3331[16:04:20] <hexhaxtron[work]> cruncher: about Mumble,
I'm already running TeamSpeak 3.
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3335[16:05:09] <jelly> hexhaxtron[work]: perhaps ask your users,
not random channels.
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3338[16:06:03] <Pymous> Thanks to FinalX and Iridos for trying to
help, and especially thanks to cruncher who fixed the issue and took
the time (a lot actually) to help me
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3340[16:06:15] <cruncher> hexhaxtron[work], true... i forgot the
scope.... only support here
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3343[16:07:22] <cruncher> Pymous, you are welcome
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3344[16:07:24] <Iridos> Pymous, uh, what fixed it?
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3346[16:07:38] <Iridos> or… better yet… what caused
it
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3349[16:09:19] <Pymous> Some libssh2.so who didn't have any
packages attached roaming in the land of /usr/local/lib, Iridos
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3350[16:09:24] <Pymous> What caused it is unknown actually
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3351[16:10:12] <Iridos> that was my first suspicion, but none of
the ldds you showed linked to /usr/local
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3354[16:10:48] <Pymous> Yeah, but we told you it wasn't
related to the ldd, but something holding back the proper removal of
the package
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3355[16:10:54] <Pymous> Even if it was marked as removed
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3358[16:11:08] <cruncher> the checksums were ok, as expected.
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3359[16:11:16] <Iridos> ldd shows where it gets runtime libraries
from…
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3362[16:11:31] <cruncher> Pymous, well, under /usr/local/lib...
did you ever compile some libraries yourself?
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3363[16:11:42] <Pymous> cruncher : About openssl ? Not that I
remember
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3364[16:11:44] <cruncher> or maybe some program put them there
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3366[16:11:51] <Iridos> and none of yours (the bits that you
showed) listed anything with /usr/local
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3367[16:11:57] <Iridos> was it in the ldd of curl itself?
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3369[16:12:16] <Pymous> Iridos : We spend the last 3 hours
looking, if it was just following a ldd, it would have been fixed
way earlier I guess ^^
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3370[16:12:27] <Pymous> cruncher seems to be qualified and
checked all that in the begining
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3371[16:12:33] <cruncher> lol
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3373[16:12:47] <a0z> hi, i was just on paste.debian.net, learning
how it works etc. there is a dead link on the side which claims to
go to
replaced-url
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3374[16:12:55] <cruncher> well, we didnt spend 3h.. but 1h i
guess with all writing and all
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3375[16:13:09] <FinalX> Pymous: np :) sorry I couldn't help
you till the end, had other matters to attend to and was running out
of ideas as well :)
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3376[16:13:24] <hexhaxtron[work]> cruncher: I'm not sure if
you received my messages... I crashed.
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3378[16:13:34] <cruncher> anywway... Pymous, now check about the
program that needs 1.0.0 (percona)
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3380[16:13:50] <Pymous> cruncher : The latest version
doesn't need it :)
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3381[16:13:57] <Pymous> It's installing right now
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3382[16:14:03] <cruncher> nice
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3383[16:14:09] <Pymous> FinalX : Don't excuse you, real life
> all
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3384[16:14:20] <cruncher> hexhaxtron[work], no, i didnt, but as i
said, its offtopic anyway
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3385[16:14:21] <Iridos> Pymous, well… it *was* just
following the ldd output … but you need the right one for
that :-} And I know, I read the whole backlog at the begin
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3386[16:14:38] <FinalX> was giving an nginx tutorial / class to
coworkers ;)
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3388[16:16:02] <Iridos> anyway, I wonder how you what finally
pointed to it
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3389[16:16:19] <Pymous> You'd have to ask cruncher for that
especially
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3394[16:18:25] <cruncher> it was really easy after checking and
comparing the shared libs... next step was strace
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3398[16:19:03] <arosusi> hexhaxtron[work], whats the URL of your
website if I may ask?
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3399[16:19:20] <hexhaxtron[work]> arosusi:
replaced-url
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3401[16:20:16] <Haohmaru> hm.. i woke up the computer (it had
turned the monitor off into power saving mode), and i see a black
screen with a bunch of quasi-random pixels towards the bottom.. some
of those pixels flicker in different colors.. the computer is not
responding to anything
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3403[16:20:32] <Haohmaru> is this a GPU issue or RAM or what?
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3404[16:20:45] <cruncher> Haohmaru, xfce?
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3405[16:20:50] <Haohmaru> LXDE
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3409[16:21:13] <cruncher> does it stay black?
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3410[16:21:16] <cruncher> or can you login?
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3412[16:21:30] <arosusi> hexhaxtron[work], Thats a nice setup you
have there. :-)
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3413[16:21:37] <hexhaxtron[work]> Thanks! :)
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3415[16:22:48] <cruncher> Haohmaru, if you cant login, try
killing light-locker
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3418[16:23:54] <Haohmaru> cruncher i tried ctrl+alt+F1 but
nothing happens, also, numlock doesn't respond..
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3421[16:24:15] <Haohmaru> i could try to connect to it via ssh
but i doubt it'll respond
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3423[16:24:21] <cruncher> Haohmaru, oh... did you try/have ssh?
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3425[16:24:42] <Haohmaru> i don't remember the IP x_x
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3430[16:25:44] <cruncher> Haohmaru, check your router if dhcp,
check arp cache from another machine or do a nmap scan
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3432[16:26:04] <Haohmaru> i'm on windows here
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3434[16:26:21] <Haohmaru> the guy who deals with the router is
not here.. duuuh
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3437[16:26:42] <cruncher> windows can do the same basically, you
just have to install nmap or check arp cache
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3442[16:28:03] <cruncher> Haohmaru, but if its a business, better
dont go around port scanning...
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3445[16:28:51] <cruncher> Haohmaru, in worst case, you can still
sysrq if there wasnt anything important open/unsaved
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3462[16:35:48] <vlt> a0z: Thank you!
replaced-url
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3464[16:36:33] <dontknow> my debian's sound is suddenly
broken. audio became very low quality and i can't hear some
channels. but if i put half of headphone's jack in the sound
port, i can hear all channels. please help!
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3477[16:40:08] <thms> !jessie->strech
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3478[16:40:09] <Haohmaru> aha! i logged in via ssh
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3479[16:40:14] <thms> !bot
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3480[16:40:15] <dpkg> I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a
finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot
(that you should not abuse).
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3481[16:40:22] <thms> !dist-upgrade
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3482[16:40:23] <dpkg> dist-upgrade tells apt to also
install/remove packages when handling dependencies; security updates
may require a dist-upgrade to install (they introduce new packages).
Dist-upgrade does not mean changing from stable to testing; apt and
aptitude both call dist-upgrade "full-upgrade" to remove
this confusion. Read man apt-get carefully. See also <why not
dist-upgrade>, <full-upgrade>.
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3483[16:40:28] <thms> !stretch
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3484[16:40:28] <dpkg> Stretch is the codename for the current
<stable> release, Debian 9, released 2017-06-17.
"Stretch" is the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3, see
replaced-url
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3486[16:40:37] <thms> !jessie->stretch
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3490[16:40:53] <thms> damn it
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3492[16:42:18] <Iridos> it's "stretch", not strech
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3495[16:42:42] <Haohmaru> cruncher i tried pkill light-locker and
also lxlock, but nothing seems to change
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3496[16:42:44] <Iridos> and you can just do /msg dpkg
jessie->stretch
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3497[16:42:49] <jelly> thms: /msg dpkg jessie->stretch
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3499[16:42:55] <hellyeah> i know i asked before but
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3500[16:43:01] <hellyeah> how can i make javac global?
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3502[16:43:09] <jelly> global?
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3503[16:43:36] <jelly> what does that mean
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3504[16:43:47] <cruncher> Haohmaru, so ssh worked? check logs for
clues
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3505[16:44:05] <hellyeah> ./user/local/jdk1_8_0/bin/javac i use
for executing javac
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3506[16:44:29] <Haohmaru> cruncher i don't know what to look
for
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3507[16:45:21] <jelly> hellyeah: maybe you want to add
/user/local/jdk1_8_0/bin to your PATH?
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3508[16:45:25] <jelly> !PATH
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3509[16:45:26] <dpkg> PATH is the environment variable that tells
the OS where to look for programs. It is defined in /etc/profile or
~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile (for sh-like shells) or ~/.login for
csh-like shells.
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3513[16:47:40] <cruncher> Haohmaru, its a laptop or a pc/server?
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3514[16:47:47] <Haohmaru> a PC
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3516[16:48:32] <Haohmaru> i've disabled the screensaver, but
it's configured to turn off the monitor after 10 minutes or so
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3518[16:48:50] <Haohmaru> i had a program running, which uses
opengl
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3521[16:49:02] <Haohmaru> and this thing uses an nvidia gpu i
think
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3523[16:50:39] <cruncher> Haohmaru, does the monitor get a
signal?
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3526[16:51:16] <Haohmaru> yes.. after i moved the mouse to wake
it up, it turned on, and shows a black screen with a bunch of nasty
pixels at the bottom
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3527[16:51:25] <Haohmaru> some of them flicker in random colors
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3530[16:52:15] <cruncher> Haohmaru, what does the command xrandr
say?
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3531[16:52:27] <cruncher> does it list all your monitors, resp
the connected one?
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3533[16:52:36] <Haohmaru> "can't open display"
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3537[16:53:50] <Haohmaru> i tried xrandr --listmonitors and it
still says the same thing.. this is via ssh
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3538[16:55:44] <cruncher> Haohmaru, yeah, forgot you are though
ssh
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3540[16:56:58] <Haohmaru> ooh, the keyboard seems to have
responded to numlock
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3542[16:57:21] <cruncher> Haohmaru, try tty1 now
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3543[16:57:30] <Haohmaru> still nope
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3544[16:58:27] <Haohmaru> "top" shows that the opengl
app i mentioned uses a steady 29% CPU
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3558[17:03:26] <cruncher> Haohmaru, ssh with the parameter -x,
then you can launch the display settings program, and see if
changing resolution will recover your session
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3560[17:03:39] <cruncher> i just dont know the command for
lxde...
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3562[17:03:58] <Haohmaru> cruncher -x?
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3563[17:04:01] <cruncher> but im sure someone here uses lxde and
can tell you
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3564[17:04:07] <Haohmaru> i'm using putty.exe
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3565[17:04:10] <cruncher> Haohmaru, yes, ssh -x user@hostname
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3571[17:04:53] <cruncher> Haohmaru, ok, then see putty settings
for something like X forwarding
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3572[17:04:55] <Haohmaru> wait, do you mean to run "ssh -x
..." while i'm connected to it via ssh (putty) ?
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3573[17:05:19] <cruncher> no, see 1 msg earlier
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