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2[00:01:55] <Ilyas> hmm..this is complicated. let me see... I
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3[00:02:03] <rant> ,info virtualbox-guest-dkms
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4[00:02:04] <judd> No package named
'virtualbox-guest-dkms' was found in stretch/amd64.
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5[00:02:29] <apollo13> ah, I mixed it up with the xenserver
driver disks
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6[00:02:33] <apollo13> they do have a linux folder :D
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8[00:02:46] <Ilyas> I'm using Vbox 5.2, Debian 9.2
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9[00:02:50] <rant> ,info virtualbox-guest-dkms contrib
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10[00:02:51] <judd> No package named
'virtualbox-guest-dkms' was found in stretch/amd64.
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12[00:03:09] <Ilyas> the vbox websites has a cd with guest
additions for this version on vbox, which I have now too
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13[00:03:18] <Ilyas> I should insert that into the vm I guess?
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14[00:03:29] <apollo13> rant: I think it is no longer in
stable?
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15[00:03:41] <rant> apollo13: either that or the bot doesnt
have contrib sources
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16[00:03:52] <apollo13> yes and then execute it and run
VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
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19[00:04:19] <rant> ,v virtualbox
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20[00:04:20] <judd> Package: virtualbox on amd64 -- wheezy:
4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1;
wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1;
jessie/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-security/contrib:
4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports/contrib: 5.1.8-dfsg-6~bpo8+2;
stretch-backports/contrib: 5.1.30-dfsg-1~bpo9+1; buster/contrib:
5.2.0-dfsg-2; sid/contrib:
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21[00:04:21] <judd> 5.2.0-dfsg-5
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23[00:04:35] <apollo13> rant:
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24[00:04:37] <judd> Bug
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30[00:05:07] <rant> yes seems virtualbox isnt in stretch at all
I guess
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31[00:05:21] <Ilyas> that's fine, I dont want to use
virtualbox inside Debian, I'm using it to run debian as a guest
vm
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34[00:05:37] <rant> which is why it didnt just auto-install the
guest additions like I'm used to it doing when I ran debian as
a guest before
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35[00:05:45] <Ilyas> oh
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36[00:05:51] <Ilyas> that's related after all ?
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39[00:07:12] <rant> the process of getting the iso from
upstream, mounting it and running their installer though is fairly
straightforward
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40[00:07:41] <rant> it just used to be a whole lot simpler when
virtualbox was in debian.. it would detect it and install the guest
additions automatically
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43[00:08:58] <rant> Ilyas: might be worth trying a testing
installer and see if that happens.. afterall its a good platform to
help debian by running testing.. the VM can help one avoid issues
with snapshots
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44[00:08:59] <Brigo> rant, virtualbox is not in debian?
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47[00:09:30] <rant> Brigo: apparently as we just covered above,
it was removed from stretch due to lack of security support for
older releases from upstream
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48[00:09:42] <Brigo> rant, didn't kown that.
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49[00:09:49] <Brigo> it is in backports thought
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50[00:09:52] <rant> neither did I until just now
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51[00:10:41] <rant> ,info virtualbox-guest-dkms
stretch-backports
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52[00:10:43] <judd> Package virtualbox-guest-dkms
(contrib/kernel, optional) in stretch-backports/amd64: x86
virtualization solution - guest addition module source for dkms.
Version: 5.1.30-dfsg-1~bpo9+1; Size: 584.5k; Installed: 4550k;
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55[00:11:07] <rant> thats still older than the version
he's using (5.2) which is in buster
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56[00:11:24] <Ilyas> who/what is buster?
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58[00:11:50] <rant> Ilyas: its the current testing and
next/future stable release of Debian
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60[00:12:10] <Ilyas> ah. is it always called buster? or just
this particular one
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62[00:12:25] <Brigo> Ilyas, just this one
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63[00:12:35] <rant> Ilyas: no, testing releases are given
normal release names as they come out, only unstable always keeps
the name sid
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64[00:12:36] <Brigo> Ilyas, testing is the real name.
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65[00:13:33] <rant> if it were me, I'd run testing or
unstable in a VM.. help discover bugs in Debian where its much
easier to recover from issues using the VMs snapshot features
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66[00:14:15] <rant> if I wanted a stable Debian system I'd
be running it natively
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67[00:14:19] <Ilyas> in the future, perhaps. right now, I want
to get a VM up and running to start Pythonining/Linuxing in :)
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68[00:14:39] <rant> Ilyas: you familiar with python or just
learning?
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69[00:15:01] <Ilyas> just learning
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70[00:15:07] <Ilyas> but I also want to learn Linux
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71[00:15:12] <rant> Ilyas: what sort of things are you
interested in coding?
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72[00:15:18] <Ilyas> so why not kill two stones with one bird
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73[00:15:24] <Ilyas> network automation, in particular
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74[00:15:55] <Ilyas> but I want to get more feeling for coding
in general. seems like a good skill to have
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75[00:15:58] <rant> so you'd be learning something like
twisted, flask, kline, or such I guess
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79[00:17:36] <rant> I ask mostly because I've started a
project with the aim to provide an integrated support system for
Debian and we need coders and more input.. and you being new might
offer perspective
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81[00:18:02] <rant> the plan is to code the software stuff in
python
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84[00:18:36] <Ilyas> ah
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85[00:18:50] <Ilyas> it sounds above my scope and out of my
paygrade, for now
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89[00:19:44] <rant> yeah well mine too which is why I
haven't made it already :P but it would involve a lot of
network type stuff and at this phase just noodling and sharing ideas
and experience with debian and the support community would be
helpful if you're at all interested
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90[00:20:38] <Ilyas> it sounds like a good initiative, but not
right now for me
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91[00:20:53] <Ilyas> thanks for pointing it out tho
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92[00:21:42] <rant> fair enough.. I obviously need seasoned
coders but input from new users with their take on Debian's
support resources and such is also important in planning
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93[00:21:54] <Ilyas> oh, I got it working! I followed this
guide
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94[00:21:56] <Ilyas>
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97[00:22:17] <Ilyas> there are some steps about adding stuff to
build kernel modules(?)
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100[00:22:28] <Ilyas> otherswise, the vbox files won't run
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104[00:23:23] <rant> dpkg, stretch-vbox-guest is Ilyas> oh, I
got it working! I followed this guide
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105[00:23:23] <dpkg> rant: okay
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110[00:24:03] <rant> Ilyas: build-essential probably, yes
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111[00:24:14] <rant> and kernel headers
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113[00:24:24] <Ilyas> why is this neccesary?
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114[00:24:33] <Ilyas> (curious, not angry)
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120[00:25:26] <rant> Ilyas: well on systems like windows you
have one kernel.. but on Debian there are all sorts of different
kernels and versions, so you need to compile the drivers from source
for the specific kernel used.. so its compatible.. so you need the
compiler toolchain and the headers for the kernel in use to build
against
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123[00:26:13] <Ilyas> oh, so I got sourcecode instead of
binaries just now?(vbox guest additions)
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124[00:26:17] <rant> Debian runs on more than just linux and has
multiple different versions of the linux kernel.. one kernel is not
binary compatible with another so the drivers need to be compiled
against the right kernel
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126[00:26:47] <rant> Ilyas: the linux version of the additions
(drivers) installs them this way for that reason.. binary ones
wouldnt be very distributable across linux distros
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128[00:27:06] <Ilyas> oh. that makes sense I guess. thanks
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130[00:27:35] <rant> its the same way with any drivers..
nvidia's installer for their driver has some pre-packaged ones
but if they dont match your running kernel it needs to compile
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136[00:28:34] <rant> Ilyas: curiosity may have killed that
proverbial cat, but it makes a good linux user ;)
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142[00:29:33] <rant> Ilyas: I'd recommend you keep yourself
here in #debian and also in #python and stay curious
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143[00:29:52] <Ilyas> thanks. having used Windows almost
exclusively, it kinda shapes the way you think about OS'es
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144[00:29:57] <Ilyas> well, at least for me
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145[00:30:02] <Ilyas> yeah I'll stick around here
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146[00:30:18] <rant> yes linux helps you learn more about how an
OS works as its designed to be a programmers OS
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151[00:31:29] <rant> I personally enjoyed O'Reilly's
Understanding The Linux Kernel for really groking the innards.. they
have a hard time keeping up with the latest kernel as its such a
fast moving codebase, but its a very detailed and easy to understand
guide to how linux kernel works
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153[00:32:39] <Sveta> I have not seen kernel act up yet so I
haven't got around to figuring out how it works
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154[00:32:43] <dTal> NERD
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155[00:32:47] <Sveta> just use debian as a desktop at home
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156[00:33:10] <Sveta> although that involves learning to break
things too, the stuff I'm using has a few bugs due to the very
specific manner in which I'm using it
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157[00:33:28] <Ilyas> hrm....I celebrated too early it seems
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158[00:33:31] <Sveta> not programming yet though I just
reproduce the bugs and provide them to the developers so that they
fix it
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159[00:33:35] <Sveta> what happened Ilyas?
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160[00:33:41] <Ilyas> my vm now just becomes unresponsive after
a few minutes
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162[00:33:52] <Sveta> that's not nice, do you know what
resources limit it hits?
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164[00:34:28] <Ilyas> I do not, but I think I gave it enough
ram/hdd/cpu
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172[00:36:33] <rant> Ilyas: did you open a heafty program like
firefox?
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173[00:36:47] <Ilyas> firefox, ye
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175[00:36:53] <rant> yeah that'll do it :P
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177[00:37:02] <Ilyas> o_O
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180[00:37:36] <esd> hello
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182[00:37:37] <rant> firefox needs a lot of ram.. which is why I
stick to links2 on my orangepilite that only has 512mb total
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185[00:38:25] <Ilyas> I gave the VM 4 GB of ram, is that not
enough?
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186[00:38:35] <rant> ah.. 4gb is enough, yes
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189[00:39:52] <rant> Ilyas: how much ram does your system have
total?
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191[00:39:59] <Ilyas> 16G
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193[00:40:14] <Ilyas> on the host, that is
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194[00:40:25] <rant> ah well then you still had 12GB left for
the host.. should be enough even for windows :P
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195[00:40:41] <Ilyas> yeah, windows runs like a charm, no issue
there
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196[00:40:51] <rant> you need a resource monitor to gague what
resources are lacking on the VM side
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197[00:40:53] <somiaj> firefox has a big foot print, a big thing
is multiple tabs. It isn't 'too' bad for a single tab
open (but still could be 50megs or so and certain pages could eat up
way more)
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201[00:41:39] <rant> yes the modern web is resource hungry in
general.. very JS heavy
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206[00:42:38] <somiaj> Yup, partly because veryone just uses
large js libaries to make things easier. Lets load the whole jquery
libary just to move one widget on my webpage.
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207[00:42:44] <rant> a system can only handle so many layers of
vm nesting.. heh. JS is a VM, in a sense a browser is a VM.. etc
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208[00:43:41] <Ilyas> bah, froze again. no indication that CPU
or RAM were maxed out :(
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210[00:44:17] <rant> Ilyas: did you check stats on host side as
well? Ctrl+Shift+Esc in windows
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211[00:44:19] <Ilyas> I think this also happened without firefox
running
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212[00:44:36] <Ilyas> yes, nothing out of the ordinary on the
host
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214[00:46:05] <rant> I tend to use MATE when I use a full DE and
it has that process monitor applet and by default it doesn't
show IO wait, it has it same color as BG color.. and I reconfigure
that because IO is more serious than normal CPU usage.. IO is
typically throwing interrupts and can involve locking mechanisms and
is typically uniterruptable
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216[00:46:24] <rant> most resource monitors tend to not show the
IO waits
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220[00:47:38] <rant> Ilyas: do you know if your CPU supports
virtualization and if the VM has virt enabled?
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222[00:48:03] <qmr> Why is automatic partitioning following the
retarded advice of swap=ram? I do not need 512GB of swap
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226[00:48:12] <Ilyas> it does and it's turned on
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227[00:48:30] <rant> qmr: one very common use of ram is for
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229[00:48:51] <rant> qmr: people who aren't
"retarded" as you put it usually don't use automatic
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230[00:49:05] <somiaj> qmr: as rant said, for those who
hibernate their system, you need enough swap to put the current use
fo ram on.
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231[00:49:24] <Ilyas> btw, how can I wean debian off the
installed CD I originally used?
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233[00:49:35] <somiaj> plus it is a standard that should work
for lots of systems, what about the system with only 2gigs of ram,
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234[00:49:35] <Ilyas> I want apt-get to only use network sources
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235[00:49:36] <rant> yeah s/ram is/swap is/
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237[00:49:55] <somiaj> Ilyas: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and
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238[00:50:17] <rant> Ilyas: edit /etc/apt/sources.list or look
under repositories in the synaptic settings
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241[00:50:56] <Ilyas> thanks
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242[00:51:12] <Ilyas> syslog does say this:
gnome-terminal-[986]: Allocating size to GtkScrollbar 0x555cda4a42a0
without calling gtk_widget_get_preferred_width/height(). How does
the code know the size to allocate?
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243[00:51:19] <Ilyas> dunno if it's relevant
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247[00:52:18] <rant> probably just goes to a hardcoded default
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249[00:52:45] <rant> that hardly seems a syslog worthy entry to
me.. heh
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250[00:53:07] <rant> GUI apps frequently have messages like that
which are mostly useless information
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272[01:03:48] <rant> Ilyas: wget -O sources.list
replaced-url
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277[01:05:33] <somiaj> Ilyas: I find Gtk really noise about its
warnings.
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278[01:05:43] <somiaj> in many cases I find no affect
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279[01:05:56] <Ilyas> oh, ok. I really had no idea when choosing
a GUI
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280[01:06:01] <Ilyas> I think I picked cinnamon
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282[01:06:08] <rant> yes pretty much any gtk/qt app you run from
a terminal will output those kinds of messages
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283[01:06:18] <Ilyas> rant: SSB ?
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285[01:06:47] <rant> Ilyas: simple sid backport.. its what
you'd do if you needed to make your own backport..
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286[01:07:11] <somiaj> Ilyas: Gtk is a widget set, I get lots of
warnings from it and don't even use a de
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287[01:07:23] <rant> Ilyas: you could comment out that and any
of the deb-src lines to make it update package cache faster and only
uncomment as needed
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289[01:08:06] <Ilyas> I'm unfamiliar with the concept
"backport"
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291[01:08:14] <Ilyas> sorry, I must sound like a moron :/
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293[01:09:32] <rant> Ilyas: backports is to get newer versions
of packages in a stable distro.. you may not know it yet but if
you're looking to get into programming you will likely want to
do backports at some point and that sid line is so you can make your
own if one doesnt already exist
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294[01:10:02] <Ilyas> ah
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296[01:10:33] <Ilyas> so thats making new code available in an
"older" environment/os/release/etc ?
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297[01:11:45] <rant> Ilyas: yes as you may have gathered ours is
a "dependancy based" system where packages depend on
libraries and such they use.. no errors like "you must install
.NET 3.0 framework" in debian, it does this kinda thing
automatically
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299[01:12:09] <rant> Ilyas: a backport takes the new code and
compiles it against the old libraries in your system so its
compatible but still newer code
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302[01:12:28] <Ilyas> what if the code somehow doesn't
work? because its too new ?
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303[01:12:48] <rant> Ilyas: in that case you'd have to
backport the various dependancies as well
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308[01:13:08] <rant> Ilyas: which could break your system so its
safer to use a chroot
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326[01:19:41] <Ilyas> okay, one final thing for now, I installed
vim, but when I try to use the mouse right-click to paste text, it
changes modes
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327[01:19:46] <Ilyas> any quick way to fix that ?
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328[01:20:00] <rant> yeah use a different editor :P
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329[01:20:06] * rant can't stand moded editors
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330[01:20:18] <rant> my editor only needs an edit mode
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333[01:21:14] <rant> Ilyas: try middle click see how that works
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334[01:21:47] <Ilyas> ah, my vm froze again >_<
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422[01:57:08] <Soni> how can I automatically torrent all debian
torrents?
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425[01:58:03] <Soni> is there a shell script I can run to
automatically fetch new debian torrents and start them so I can help
seed them?
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670[02:27:08] <thebestnewb> Under Jessie I was able to turn on
usb tethering on my android phone, plug in a usb cable and acquire
entire by doing `dhclient usb0` but I can't seem to do that
under Stretch -- I get 'Cannot find device
"usb0"'. I don't recall if I had to install a
package for that. Can anyone help?
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671[02:27:23] <thebestnewb> "acquire entire" ->
"acquire internet"
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you just plugged the phone in and n-m would connect to the internet
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in would be the first thing I'd do
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a one-liner
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968[03:30:24] <stoned> hello, how come my file open box looks
like boxes?
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970[03:30:52] <stoned> I am unable to read thigns.
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971[03:31:00] <stoned> Unintelligable boxes
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972[03:31:13] <stoned> It just randomly happened when I rebooted
one time.
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973[03:31:31] <annadane> stoned, is this on stretch?
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974[03:31:35] <stoned> Jessie.
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975[03:31:55] <annadane> and this is on which program?
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976[03:32:13] <stoned> web browser chrome from google chrome
official respository, stable version.
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977[03:32:25] <stoned> It always worked fine, I never updated
anything, no apt updates
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979[03:32:36] <stoned> Then one time it did this and wont'
go away
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980[03:33:01] <stoned> Everything else in chrome works fine,
just file open box has boxes
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1012[03:54:07] <rant> Soni: wget -r -np -e robots=off -A torrent
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1013[03:54:35] <rant> dpkg mirror torrents is wget -r -np -e
robots=off -A torrent
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1014[03:54:35] <dpkg> okay, rant
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1019[03:57:29] <rant> Soni: that will download all the CD
torrents from a given mirror, kernel.org is good as any
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1021[03:57:57] <Soni> why not just provide an RSS feed :/
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1033[04:01:40] <kingsley> How can I check if the new version of
the "udev" package I just installed is actually running?
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1036[04:02:31] <petemc> md5sum?
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1037[04:03:00] <rant> Soni: idk.. there may be a better way, but
not that I know of
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1046[04:07:46] <rant> stoned: looks normal to me.. you're
probably just too high to read :P
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1047[04:08:14] <rant> stoned: seriously though, have you tried
the standard troubleshooting of either trying a diffeent user or
moving the dotfiles out of the way?
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1050[04:08:43] <rant> to rule out a local config issue
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1115[04:44:26] <Shmam> Trying to get libinput to work. When i
type "libinput" into console, it says no command found. I
do have libinput-gestures working fine though so not sure what
happened there. Running Debian 9, KDE, x11
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1120[04:46:52] <Shmam> I want to set the tap_drag action to
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1123[04:49:25] <Shmam> Also how do I install something from here?
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1143[04:57:09] <Shmam> Hello? :?
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1147[04:59:28] <annadane> Shmam, well, i don't know the
answer to your first question; to the second, you shouldn't
just install things meant for arch in debian
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1148[04:59:40] <annadane> Shmam, if no one answers you you can
try the mailing list debian-user@lists.debian.org
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1149[04:59:58] <Shmam> yea but they dont have a link for libinput
on debian
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1150[05:00:03] <Shmam> >_<
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1151[05:01:19] <Shmam> also do you know how I can check what
version I have installed?
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1153[05:01:56] <innmalint> does anyone run steam on debian
testing? seems the install disappeared and does not start after
re-install
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1161[05:09:30] <Deviance> /amsg Retweet if you give a damn about
your internetz.
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1163[05:10:32] <annadane> innmalint,
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1164[05:10:34] <annadane> !debian-next
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1165[05:10:34] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1168[05:12:16] <annadane> Shmam, probably "libinput
--version" or "libinput-gestures --version"; what you
can do if you really want is download the source from arch and build
it from source -
replaced-url
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1169[05:12:24] <annadane> that's if it's not already in
debian
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1171[05:12:28] <annadane> ,v libinput
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1172[05:12:29] <judd> No package named 'libinput' was
found in amd64.
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1173[05:12:38] <annadane> let me check the packages section
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1174[05:14:01] <kingsley> Why would neither "dlocate -S
" nor "apt-file search " report which package has the
file "/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdc1394.so.22.2.1"?
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1175[05:14:10] <annadane> Shmam, libinput-gestures is not a
package in debian
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1176[05:14:30] <Shmam> yea i installed that and built from a git
repo
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1177[05:15:21] <annadane> according to
replaced-url
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1178[05:15:21] <Shmam> also how would I go about disabling middle
mouse click?
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1180[05:15:44] <annadane> Shmam, in general? probably depends on
your de/wm
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1182[05:15:58] <Shmam> oh something in kde?
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1183[05:16:01] <annadane> oh, kde
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1187[05:16:20] <Shmam> most of the options in there are greyed
out sadly
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1188[05:16:25] <Shmam> frickin lib input
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1189[05:16:51] <annadane> anyway, if you just got stuff from git
then it may not work properly
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1190[05:17:15] <annadane> i wouldn't really know, not much
experience with it, but if there's debian packages for libinput
i would just use those rather than git
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1191[05:17:20] <Shmam> no it works fine. this is a separate prob
that I have just fixed
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1192[05:17:58] <Shmam> Also how do I run a command when my laptop
boots up? Should I use cron or something else?
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1196[05:18:50] <annadane> depends on the command, i guess. you
probably want to use cron
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1275[06:16:21] <foo> I'm getting this ssh error trying to
connect to a server: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed
by remote host - here's verbose output:
replaced-url
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1281[06:18:30] <themill> got something in /etc/hosts.deny on the
server?
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1282[06:18:57] <foo> themill: I don't have server access, I
can relay that, though
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1283[06:19:39] <Unit193> Perhaps fail2ban got you?
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1287[06:21:11] <themill> foo: neither of those ssh versions are
Debian ones though, so there's probably some other place that
can better help
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1290[06:22:20] <foo> Unit193: I've received this message
upon every connection
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1291[06:22:27] <foo> Unit193: Unless it's just being very
aggressive, heh
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1292[06:22:39] <foo> themill: perhaps. Although, this is a server
running debian. Sure, I'm running a mac.
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1293[06:22:48] <foo> ... well, I think it's running debian
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1294[06:22:54] <foo> Unless I was misinformed
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1300[06:23:58] <themill> doesn't look like it
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1303[06:24:05] <foo> thanks for the heads up
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1305[06:24:41] <themill> (well, it might be some ancient and
unsupported version... I don't recall which release had openssh
5.3 in it)
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1308[06:25:30] <mrdside> hi, people
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1309[06:25:37] <foo> themill: thank you
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1310[06:25:48] <mrdside> i need help with Wacom One CTL-672
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1318[06:30:29] <foo> themill: heh, you're right - this must
be something else. I thought these guys were all debian... traders.
I'll have to knock them on this
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1348[06:55:01] <gladioacuto> hi there
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1354[06:56:27] <annadane> gladioacuto, hi
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1355[06:56:57] <gladioacuto> resuming from hibernation hangs
stretch on my thinkpad X1 carbon, forcing me to reboot or letting
Xorg crash and restart. I suspect the problme lies on Xorg, but not
sure. Please take a look at those many suspicious lines in
/var/log/syslog:
replaced-url
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1356[06:57:09] <gladioacuto> any help would me appreciated
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1357[06:57:15] <gladioacuto> would be
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1369[07:02:11] <annadane> i don't know but it requests you
to file a bug report and send an email :P
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1394[07:16:45] <mrdside> After plug in tablet don't see any
new device in /dev/input.
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1411[07:23:25] <Moana> Hello
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1412[07:23:33] <Profound> Hi Moana
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1413[07:23:55] <Moana> Hello I am really confused how do I use
this chay
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1414[07:23:57] <Moana> chat
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1416[07:24:19] <Moana> Hello!
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1417[07:25:05] <gladioacuto> annadane, I submitted bug with
reportbug, but got no ID for the bug so I cannot trace it...how to
check if it was correctly submitted?
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1418[07:25:05] <cq1> I created an encrypted partition on an
external drive using cryptsetup
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1419[07:25:10] <cq1> oops, hit send too soon
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1420[07:25:28] <Moana> hi what's going on here
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1424[07:26:06] <annadane> you leaving before i can answer your
question
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1430[07:26:22] <cq1> I created an encrypted partition on an
external drive using "cryptsetup luksFormat". I presume
that all I need now to open that encrypted partition is just the
passphrase I set? As in, it didn't store any additional key
material somewhere in /etc or something, and I have to make sure to
not lose the drive I was running off of when I ran cryptsetup?
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1437[07:27:06] <annadane> gladioacuto, i'm not sure.
realistically it may not be a bug and in any case we didn't
solve/address your problem so we don't know if it's a bug
or not
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1438[07:27:10] <annadane> may just be a stock message
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1439[07:27:13] <annadane> i was half joking anyway
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1459[07:39:02] <Masina> Yes what does Debian Linux do?
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1460[07:39:36] <Masina> Hello us anyone around?
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1461[07:39:53] <Masina> What does this freenode Web IRC do?
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1464[07:40:48] <preaction> you're doing it
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1466[07:42:04] <Masina> What is this place? kinda cool but weird
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1469[07:42:37] <annadane> hi Masina, debian is an operating
system
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1470[07:42:56] <annadane> freenode is a server, and #debian is a
channel within that server
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1471[07:42:58] <Masina> Yeah hi annadane, yes I know that
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1472[07:43:12] <Masina> You mean is like a group chay
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1473[07:43:13] <Masina> chat
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1474[07:43:16] <annadane> yep
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1475[07:43:19] <annadane> for support questiona
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1476[07:43:21] <Masina> Where we all can chat together
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1477[07:43:22] <annadane> questions*
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1478[07:43:42] <Masina> okay this thing is prettycool
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1480[07:44:07] <Masina> and it seems like there are thousands of
people on the right name list
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1491[07:48:57] <Masina> hi
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1707[09:40:47] <Septicide> Probably not the best place to display
that......
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1708[09:40:50] <Septicide> whoops
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1778[10:24:32] <tiny> hi. running debian 7.1 with /etc/init.d .
How do I tell init script to run program as unprivileged user?
Putting option --user=someuser after start-stop-daemon didnt't
help.
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1782[10:25:26] <petn-randall> tiny: You drop privileges in the
script. sysv init has no concept of user privileges.
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1798[10:29:47] <tiny> petn-randall: you mean chowning it to
someuser?
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1806[10:31:34] <FinalX> tiny: no, the script itself must use some
kind of other program to make it run as another user (like su, sudo,
etc). the init script itself can't. chowning is just changing
permissions. you could use chown+chmod for setuid, but that's
not ideal at all.
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1808[10:32:11] <tiny> ok
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1811[10:32:17] <FinalX> tiny: you can also upgrade away from
oldoldstable (wheezy) to oldstable (jessie) or stable (stretch) and
start using systemd, with that it's quite easy to do it. just
add a User= line in the systemd unit file and done.
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1812[10:32:48] <tiny> yeah, that I know ... systemd makes this
easy
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1881[11:12:22] <nix64bit> how to use binaries in home directory,
in this case node, I have created a ~/bin directory and exported the
path, how to get the whole project in my user path?
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1882[11:12:55] <koollman> probably easier if you make a ~/usr
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1883[11:13:14] <koollman> so when you compile/install a project,
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1884[11:13:29] <nix64bit> I see whatyou say
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1886[11:14:05] <nix64bit> ~/user
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1887[11:14:27] <nix64bit> then add that to the path?
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1889[11:14:43] <koollman> then add ~/usr/bin
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1890[11:14:56] <nix64bit> ahh
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1901[11:19:22] <bsdnoob> hello
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1902[11:19:36] <bsdnoob> guys how I enable tap to click in xfce ?
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1904[11:19:49] <bsdnoob> I am tired of making bunch on config
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1905[11:19:54] <bsdnoob> but nothing ever happens
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1915[11:24:44] <bazhang> testing/unstable: #debian-next
(irc.oftc.net) bsdnoob
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1923[11:27:24] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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1924[11:27:34] <petn-randall> bazhang: How do you know
they're on testing/sid?
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1925[11:27:43] <nix64bit> koollman: thanks for the helps all
working well now
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1927[11:28:00] <bazhang> petn-randall, his crossposting
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1929[11:28:52] <petn-randall> bazhang: Ah, I must not be in that
other channel then.
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1938[11:30:01] <tobiasBora> I would like to use curl to simulate
a connexion to a hotspot portal. I tried to use "curl -c
cookie_jar.txt -v ..." to store and read my cookies from the
cookie_jar.txt, but I can't see anything in the logs of curl
that let me thing that curl used the previously recorded cookies.
Moreover, if I look at the cookie_jar that is generated after the
first request, I get only commented lines, included
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1939[11:30:03] <tobiasBora> "#HttpOnly_<the hotspot
website>..."
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1947[11:32:56] <petn-randall> tobiasBora: If you're trying
to automate accepting the ToS of hotspots, you're probably
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1949[11:33:20] <petn-randall> tobiasBora: curl/wget is not the
best tool for that since you'd have to assemble the HTTP
requests by hand.
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1957[11:36:23] <nix64bit> I edited .bash_profile with export
PATH="$HOME/usr/bin:$PATH" i seem to have to run `source
~/.bash_profile to activate it ? doesnt it get loaded on start of
new session?
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1964[11:40:15] <petn-randall> nix64bit: You likely want to put it
in .bashrc. Which file gets loaded when isn't that trivial, in
case of .bash_profile this only happens on login shells (which your
graphical terminal is not).
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1965[11:40:56] <petn-randall> nix64bit: See this for a rough
overview:
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1967[11:41:19] <nix64bit> ah ok thanks thats very helpful
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1969[11:41:58] <nix64bit> petn-randall: thanks
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1970[11:42:04] <petn-randall> nix64bit: I have that page
bookmarked because for the life of me I can't remember it every
time I need it. You're welcome! :)
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1985[11:51:03] <ntd2> hi. we are running several server with
debian and experience the following every now and then on the server
with realtek 8168 NICs:
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1986[11:51:10] <ntd2> is this a known problem of some kind?
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1987[11:51:35] <ntd2> or does anyone have some infos? the realtek
firmware package from non-free is installed
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1988[11:51:45] <ntd2> it seems to happen when many clients
connect
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1990[11:51:54] <sillyslux> what happened to /usr/bin/xvnc4viewer?
package xvnc4viewer now is a transitional package and i'd have
to use /usr/bin/xvncviewer instead, but then i get no cursor :(
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1994[11:52:16] <apollo13> ntd2: get you some intel nics :D
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1996[11:52:25] <petn-randall> ntd2: Except for the kernel oops,
do you see any other symptoms?
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1998[11:53:19] <ntd2> apollo13, thanks, suchs help is always
welcome. can you send some to my server provider? :P
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1999[11:53:35] <ntd2> petn-randall, the server of course happens
to have connection loss and packet loss after this
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2000[11:53:55] <apollo13> ntd2: no, but then again I
wouldn't buy servers from such a provider. that said I have had
those realtek issues in the past too
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2001[11:53:59] <ntd2> also if I turn off optimizations like GRO,
GSO,. etc it does not happen anymore
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2002[11:54:40] <petn-randall> ntd2: You could try the backports
kernel to check if it's a kernel bug.
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2003[11:54:48] <ntd2> apollo13, we experience this the first
time. lessons are learned for the future, but i cannot turn the
servers off now
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2004[11:55:12] <apollo13> that is your second problem then right
there
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2005[11:55:15] <ntd2> petn-randall, thanks, thats worth a try
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2008[11:55:32] <apollo13> new kernel will requiring turning off
to ;)
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2009[11:55:40] <ntd2> apollo13, well, we COULD disable the
servers as they are behind a load balancer, but we need to get
others first
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2010[11:55:57] <ntd2> we can handle some servers beeing offline
for a short amount of time
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2011[11:56:15] <petn-randall> ntd2: I recall having similar
problems back with 2.6.32, it could be related to some production
batches of realtek.
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2012[11:56:38] <ntd2> we are running the stable stretch kernel :(
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2014[11:57:02] <ntd2> i will talk to our admin that we maybe try
to upgrade some for testing purposes to the backports kernel
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2015[11:57:21] <ntd2> maybe this would really help, but problems
regading this date back to debian 6 (found on the net)
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2016[11:57:26] <ntd2> so I do not really hope that much
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2018[11:58:20] <ntd2> maybe we can also call our providers to
change the NIC
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2019[11:58:30] <matrix_architect> do you think next stable
version of debian will be default to wayland?
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2020[11:59:07] <ntd2> next stable version will take its time :P
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2021[11:59:14] <ntd2> I do not count with it in the next year
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2022[11:59:26] <ntd2> so I would not worry about that too much
yet
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2023[11:59:47] <matrix_architect> i just wonder
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2024[11:59:50] <ntd2> and btw apollo13 and petn-randall : thanks
for the infos ;)
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2029[12:00:51] <ntd2> as debian has a policy on beeing stable and
secure, my guess is that wayland will take at least to debian 11
until its properly tested and considered stable so it can become the
default
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2030[12:01:01] <ntd2> but you can try it already in stretch when
intalling gnome or kde
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2031[12:01:24] <Psy-Q> isn't wayland still pretty crippled?
i.e. no gaming, flaky opengl, issues with nvidia?
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2033[12:01:42] <petn-randall> Psy-Q: I don't think
that's current info.
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2034[12:02:04] <Psy-Q> i know mgraesslin still has no plans to
get kwin to work with nvidia's eglstreams
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2035[12:02:16] <Psy-Q> so that would rule out plasma on
nvidia's proprietary driver
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2036[12:02:28] <ntd2> Psy-Q, i did not test it THAT much, but on
my nvidia proprietary its working fine (tested out of curiosity for
about 1 hour)
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2037[12:02:41] <ntd2> but I did not test with plasma, only gnome3
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2038[12:02:46] <Psy-Q> ah, that explains it
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2039[12:02:55] <Psy-Q> gnome/mutter has gained some eglstreams
patches i believe
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2041[12:03:22] <Psy-Q> i thought i'd read something on
phoronix recently about opengl performance issues, let's see if
i can find it
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2043[12:03:39] <ntd2> I would start using wayland, but I have
some projects I work on that use X11 libraries and also imho gnome3
is not very usable (to me, personal opinion, no shitstorming!)
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2044[12:04:28] <tomodachi> ntd2: nothin is stoping you from
ussing x applications in wayland
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2046[12:04:48] <tomodachi> you can ofc transparently run them
under wayland
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2050[12:05:27] <ntd2> tomodachi, there are reasons. e.g. if you
use the MIT-SHM extension ;)
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2051[12:05:27] <Psy-Q> ah no, with intel opengl drivers at least
wayland is now almost caught up with xorg it seems:
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2052[12:06:29] <Psy-Q> and Radeon as well:
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2053[12:06:41] <ntd2> sounds great
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2055[12:06:43] <Psy-Q> so it seems the only issues could be on
nvidia then. and the missing plasma
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2056[12:07:00] <ntd2> I hope mate devs geht the bogus of
mir-over-wayland out of their heads, then I am happy :P
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2059[12:07:14] <Psy-Q> Radeon seems to be even faster on wayland
than on x in some benchmarks
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2062[12:07:40] <Psy-Q> and i'll be following mgraesslin very
closely then, about those eglstreams :)
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2063[12:08:25] <Psy-Q> that was the last word spoken on it so far
as far as i know:
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2077[12:13:10] <hellyeah> yo
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2078[12:13:21] <ntd2> ya
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2080[12:13:33] <hellyeah> "you must be new fella
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2081[12:13:49] <ntd2> nah
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2083[12:14:23] <hellyeah> okay
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2085[12:14:29] <hellyeah> how is it hanging there?
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2089[12:15:47] <babilen> hellyeah: You might be looking for
#debian-offtopic
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2090[12:16:15] <Psy-Q> hrm. this talk made me want to switch to
AMD now. wonder if the mesa in debian 9 is new enough for all the
gaming stuff on vega
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2092[12:17:32] <Psy-Q> ah crap, no vega on 4.9. oh well.
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2093[12:17:38] <mrm> babilen: I'm sorry, but discussions of
#debian-offtopic are offtopic here. You might want to discuss it in
#debian-offtopic instead.
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2095[12:18:05] * babilen eyes mrm suspiciously
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2096[12:19:19] * RoyK wonders if babilen should be on
#debian-not-quite-on-topic-but-close
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2099[12:21:04] <hellyeah> babilen,
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2100[12:21:04] <hellyeah> ops
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2101[12:21:10] <hellyeah> i am sorry wrong channel
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2102[12:21:22] <hellyeah> i supposed i am in #web-social
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*!*@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bngyqqcosytolxmn
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2113[12:25:29] <mrm> I misread that for a second and thought
someone had kicked babilen, and wasn't sure whether to say
something.
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2114[12:25:43] <babilen> Could we just move on? :)
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2124[12:28:59] <oo_miguel> Can any one recommend a simple
lightweight reverse proxy which I can use to route ssh requests to
different ssh servers (similar as I use nginx for http/https
requests) based on the domain name?
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2126[12:29:53] <JustASlacker> just use ssh config file
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2127[12:30:03] <oo_miguel> ... and is it possible at all.
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2130[12:30:11] <petn-randall> oo_miguel: SSH does not have the
equivalent of server name indications, so I don't think
it's possible.
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2131[12:30:27] <oo_miguel> JustASlacker: sshd config file?
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2132[12:30:29] <JustASlacker> have a ssh config file and specify
jump host per target
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2133[12:30:33] <JustASlacker> no, ssh config
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2137[12:31:28] <oo_miguel> JustASlacker: I understand that the
ssh config file configures the behaviour of a local ssh client,
right?
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2138[12:31:58] <JustASlacker>
replaced-url
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2139[12:32:00] <JustASlacker> yes
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2142[12:32:23] <JustASlacker>
replaced-url
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2143[12:32:28] <JustASlacker> need to google a bit
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2144[12:32:35] <oo_miguel> JustASlacker: ok Ill have a look thank
you
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2145[12:32:41] <JustASlacker> syntax in recent ssh is slightly
changed than in those links
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2147[12:33:01] <JustASlacker> but in broad terms, it allows you
to specify a proxycommand per host
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2148[12:33:15] <JustASlacker> Host aoraki
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2149[12:33:15] <JustASlacker> ProxyCommand ssh -q ruapehu nc -q0
aoraki 22
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2154[12:34:56] <petn-randall> Well, easier way is to just use -J,
they added that recently.
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2155[12:35:02] <babilen> "-W "%h:%p"" is
quite nice in that context
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2156[12:35:23] <babilen> petn-randall: What does that do?
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2157[12:35:27] <oo_miguel> petn-randall: I suspected this (that
there might be no servername equivalent).. I will try the jumphost
approach
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2160[12:36:16] <babilen> Ah, nice .. I guess it's time to
update some SSH configs again
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2161[12:36:16] <petn-randall> babilen: It's a shortcut for
setting up a TCP forwarding, so you just have to do "ssh -J
user1@jumphost user2@finaldestination" and it'll work.
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2162[12:36:35] <babilen> ProxyJump is the config entry
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2163[12:36:41] <babilen> Nice :)
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2165[12:37:17] <oo_miguel> will specyfng the destination with the
+ also work for sftp clients (i.e filezilla etc)
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2166[12:37:32] <oo_miguel> or is this something the client has to
be aware of?
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2169[12:38:22] <oo_miguel> maybe I can do the proxying based on
username otherwise, if possible?
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2172[12:40:45] <tobiasBora> petn-randall: thanks for
replaced-url
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2177[12:44:20] <colo-work> tobiasBora, does it not send the
cookie header? (you can verify by using the "-v" option)
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2180[12:44:31] <colo-work> the leading "#" is normal in
a curl cookie-jar file
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output, incl. your invocation of curl (and maybe your cookie-jar
file contents)?
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2333[13:56:40] <jelly> !paste
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2334[13:56:40] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
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2335[13:56:56] <laughingtiger> guys I'm sorry about what I
complained about firefox unstable in debian, it's now cleared
that the problem was caused by the wireless router made in
china.p.r, after I changed the firmware to openwrt, no problems ever
appeared again.
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2339[13:59:06] <sillyslux> what's a good replacement for
x11vnc to export one of several xinerama displays?
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2340[13:59:13] <laughingtiger> the original firmware that was
shipped with the router developed by those tried a lot of things,
including hijacking the browser, implanting advertisements, stealing
users data, etc, I bet they sent them to the stink government/
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2346[14:00:37] <laughingtiger> it was worse than garbage.
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2347[14:00:52] <laughingtiger> made in china, what a joke.
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2355[14:03:20] <wozzoz> hi all, any modern fix for this:
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2356[14:03:21] <judd> Bug
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2375[14:11:26] <laughingtiger> yeah, all commies stinks and
I'll shut.
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2396[14:24:04] <Debian_Alain> n Debian-facile
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2398[14:24:33] <Debian_Alain> #join debian-facile
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2431[14:39:10] <RedSoxFan07> Hello
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2432[14:39:32] <RedSoxFan07> What is the focus of #debianfacile?
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2441[14:44:40] <jelly> never heard of it
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2442[14:45:06] <jelly> RedSoxFan07: which network is that channel
on?
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2443[14:45:19] <RedSoxFan07> no clue
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2444[14:45:39] <abrotman> where did you see the reference?
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2445[14:45:46] <RedSoxFan07> This channel.
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2446[14:46:14] <RedSoxFan07> I accidentally left my laptop on and
it picked up a piece of last night's conversation.
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2447[14:46:30] <RedSoxFan07> Oops
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2448[14:46:34] <jelly> it's hard to say what that person
wanted to do and where.
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2450[14:46:40] <RedSoxFan07> Yeah
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2451[14:46:47] <abrotman> People make mistakes in IRC
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2452[14:46:51] <abrotman> and IRL!
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2454[14:47:33] <RedSoxFan07> What's IRL?
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2455[14:47:47] <digdilem> in real life
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2456[14:48:13] <Alina-malina> I need some tutorial on how to
configure VPN in debian fo 1 program only
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2458[14:48:24] <n4dir> if you search for debian facile you will
get a result about a project, but it is in french (not sure if it
still exists at all)
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2459[14:48:37] <rephlexie> missing a "-", its
#debian-facile I think
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2462[14:49:02] <petn-randall> Alina-malina: That's not how
networking works.
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2463[14:49:04] <petn-randall> !goal
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2464[14:49:04] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the
solution is.
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2465[14:49:08] <petn-randall> Alina-malina: ^^^
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2467[14:49:19] <pseudonymous> Hi - I had some trouble w a USB
stick install which booted but some way through the install it
insisted that I had no install CD mounted. OK, so I try the Live CD
images. Now I've booted into a desktop, but I don't see an
install option anywhere, how to proceed ?
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2469[14:49:46] <Alina-malina> well, i have a program called
hexchat, i need to run a VPN and give access only to this hexchat
program the rest of the traffic i want to go as it goes usually
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2471[14:50:26] <Haxxa> Hi I'm trying to clone my drive with
clonezilla I just replaced my ssd in my laptop with a 960 evo and it
is detected under lsblk but clonezilla won't mount it - any
ideas on what I can do?
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2472[14:50:50] <rgr> Just FYI in case any testing bods here -
debian-next is a desert.
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2474[14:51:27] <petn-randall> pseudonymous: If your installer
image broke it's likely due to using unetbootin or something
similar to prepare it. These tools mangle the image in cruel ways,
causing really weird forms of breakage.
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2476[14:52:31] <pseudonymous> petn-randall: shouldn't be.
But can I install from this live installer USB stick which landed me
in a MATE desktop ?
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2479[14:54:39] <sillyslux> what should i use as vncserver and
what as vncviewer if a) i want to export only one xinerama display
and b) i want the pointer to be drawn
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2481[14:55:29] <sillyslux> x11vnc + xvnc4viewer was good but it
seems that xvnc4viewer is no more
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2484[14:55:47] <n4dir> pseudonymous: the live CD's are not
meant to be used as an installer.
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2485[14:56:00] <n4dir> they contain one though, but don't
use them.
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2486[14:56:24] <pseudonymous> n4dir: why ? I'm under a
time-crunch, I really just need this thing operational stat
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2488[14:56:36] <n4dir> known for problems, etc.
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2489[14:56:47] <simbalion> I've got a Samsung UHD monitor
that is supposed to have 60hz refresh but it's only showing
30hz apparently? Is this because of my graphics drivers?
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2490[14:56:55] <pseudonymous> Ok, is there a blessed guide then ?
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2491[14:57:10] <jelly> RedSoxFan07: there is however, a --- Topic
for #debian-facile is Entraide pour Debian | IRC≠hotline,
ATTENDEZ ! | Asso, forum, doc:
replaced-url
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2493[14:57:37] <jelly> no idea what that one is about
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2494[14:57:41] <pseudonymous> Debian's site is a
merry-go-round of pages on pages of test images, snapshots, jigdo
this, hybrid that. There must be a common path catering to the
"I just want an install running, here's a USB".
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2497[14:58:27] <n4dir> i usually plug in the USB stick and hit
the enter key a couple of times ...
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2499[14:58:41] <RedSoxFan07> pseudonymous: Yeah, it could be a
lot easier to navigate.
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2500[14:58:46] <jelly> pseudonymous: there are some issues
running the installer from live. To avoid those, use the actual
installer
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2505[14:59:27] <RedSoxFan07> jelly: Yeah.
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2506[14:59:29] <pseudonymous> n4dir: that's what I want. I
have installed this on 1 pc a month ago and now I've forgotten
the process. I just want a page saying "download this,
dd/cp/whatever like so, go install"
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2507[14:59:52] <RedSoxFan07> It also helps if you go with the
non-free version because it includes non-free drivers, which you
might need.
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2508[14:59:53] <pseudonymous> that's what I'm looking
for right now, a blessed image to use for a functioning install
given that I want to use a USB stick, which I presume is by far the
most common setup these days
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2509[15:00:18] <pseudonymous> RedSoxFan07: couldn't find it
last time, had to load FW in via secondary USB. Where is this image
?
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2511[15:00:43] <n4dir> !firmware
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2512[15:00:44] <dpkg> Firmware is software to operate electronic
devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux
kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace,
notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part
of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some
are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask
me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>.
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2513[15:00:52] <n4dir> !installer firmware
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2514[15:00:52] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional
<firmware>, by including it within installation media or
supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See
replaced-url
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2517[15:01:21] <petn-randall> !firmware images
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2518[15:01:21] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> and DVD
installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are
available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See
replaced-url
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2519[15:01:27] <petn-randall> pseudonymous: ^^^
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2521[15:01:36] <n4dir> thank you , sir petn-randall :-)
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2522[15:01:37] <RedSoxFan07> pseudonymous: I found it once about
a year ago. I can't find it now. I'll keep looking.
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2524[15:02:08] <RedSoxFan07> pseudonymous: Here it is:
replaced-url
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2525[15:02:27] <n4dir> still wondering why the installer
doesn't seem to recognize the usb-stick but asks for a CD. I
sure never ran in that when using debian.
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2528[15:02:48] <pseudonymous> RedSoxFan07: thanks a heap man,
really :)
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2530[15:03:42] <petn-randall> n4dir: That is always the case when
people use unetbootin or some weird tools to prepare the USB stick.
The other common failure mode of unetbootin is that the installer
then writes the grub onto the stick, breaking the installer and
making the system unbootable.
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2531[15:03:48] <RedSoxFan07> pseudonymous: While I admire the
ideals and integrity of free software supporters, I just want my
hardware to work, and I doubt that drivers can be malicious.
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2533[15:04:06] <RedSoxFan07> petn-randall: I've found that
Etcher works very well.
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2534[15:04:30] <RedSoxFan07> pseudonymous: You're welcome
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2535[15:04:36] <petn-randall> !etcher
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2536[15:04:36] <dpkg> hmm... etcher is initial testing shows
etcher is not a reliable way to copy debian images for installation.
instead use cp or dd for linux, or win32diskimager for windows.
replaced-url
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2537[15:04:39] <petn-randall> RedSoxFan07: ^^^
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2539[15:05:12] <n4dir> petn-randall: ah, thanks. He neither
confirmed nor negated that yet.
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2540[15:05:24] <petn-randall> RedSoxFan07: Every other month
there's a new tool that pops up that claims to make it easier.
But the ways to prepare USB images are documented in the release
notes and work 100%, the other tools not so.
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2542[15:05:51] <petn-randall> pseudonymous: What steps did you
take to prepare the USB stick?
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2543[15:06:03] <n4dir> can't see how it could be any easier
then with the default tools ...
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2544[15:06:43] <pseudonymous> petn-randall: I stumble around the
help pages. I basically (right now) use cp+sync as outlined in some
of the debian pages
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2545[15:07:08] <sillyslux> aww, i've downloaded and
installed the jessie package of xvnc4viewer and everything seems
fine, what might be the reason for it to be turned into an
transitional package?
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2548[15:07:45] <petn-randall> pseudonymous: This is the official
and working documentation to it:
replaced-url
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2551[15:08:26] <pseudonymous> Yup, I do the thing at the top, cp
+ sync
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2573[15:19:45] <tobiasBora> colo-work: Here is the output:
replaced-url
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2574[15:20:56] <tobiasBora> colo-work: Here is the cookie_jar :
replaced-url
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2581[15:21:56] <tobiasBora> And here is the command I used;
replaced-url
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2585[15:22:47] <tobiasBora> as you can see, I can't see any
cookie header
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2586[15:23:24] <tobiasBora> but sometimes I indeed have some
cookie header, I'm wondering if this big string is not causing
the drop of the headers...
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2590[15:26:53] <sn0wmonster> Question! From within a shell
script, I want to open /etc/proxychains.conf, look for the line
containing only "proxy_dns" and I want to add
"#" before it (to comment it out). Is this possible?
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2601[15:29:47] <petn-randall> sn0wmonster: You could use
'sed' for that.
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2602[15:30:09] <sn0wmonster> oooh! never heard of that before.
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2603[15:30:37] <tremolo> sed is incredibly handy
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2606[15:32:02] <RedSoxFan07> tremolo: and its syntax is often
used in IRC
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2607[15:32:05] <sn0wmonster> thank you! plenty of resources
explaining how to do it with sed, i am satisfied. cheers
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2609[15:32:22] <sn0wmonster> RedSoxFan07, is that the s/from/to
replacement i always see?
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2611[15:33:35] <sillyslux> sn0wmonster, e.g. sed -i -r
's/(\s*gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme\s*=\s*)(.+)/\10/g'
~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
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2612[15:33:52] <sn0wmonster> nice. thank you
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2613[15:34:10] <RedSoxFan07> sn0wmonster: yes sir!
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2615[15:34:45] <sillyslux> this would change
gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme=1 to
gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme=0 in the file (last arg)
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2616[15:35:26] <sillyslux> there's also #sed and #bash
channels
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2620[15:36:57] <petn-randall> sn0wmonster: s/from/to/ is
perl-compatible regex, that is used by a lot more things, too.
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2622[15:38:10] <sn0wmonster> nice! got it working, thank you!
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2630[15:42:10] <mxh-> ok so i have a problem with NetworkManager
not connecting after sleep
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2631[15:42:19] <SimonB> Could anyone kindly explain to me why
/proc/cpuinfo would only list even numbered cores on a 2 CPU server?
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2632[15:42:21] <mxh-> if i restart wpa_supplicant it connects
right away
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2634[15:42:55] <mxh-> i'm not comfortable enough with
systemd to troubleshoot this, been looking at journalctl and some of
the services
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2635[15:43:07] <mxh-> but nothing looks off to me. any idea on
where to look?
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2642[15:45:51] <mxh-> i should say suspend really
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2647[15:46:24] <laravel> can i ask something?
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2648[15:46:36] <likcoras> !ask
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2649[15:46:36] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2653[15:47:31] <laravel> dpkg: thx dude
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2654[15:47:31] <dpkg> laravel: I wish you would RTFM.
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2655[15:47:44] <laravel> dpkg: what is RTFM ? :D
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2656[15:47:45] * dpkg gives ? :D an engraved copy of the fucking how-to
and directs ? :D to understand it fully.
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2657[15:48:05] <ntd2> RTFM = Read the fine manual
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2659[15:48:16] <ntd2> altough there are alternate definitions
regarding the "f" floating around
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2661[15:48:25] <zoomm10> Hello, is possible do not remove
file/dir with 777 permission from any user? Thank you
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2662[15:48:31] <ntd2> yes
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2663[15:48:36] <ntd2> argh
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2664[15:48:36] <ntd2> no
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2666[15:48:40] <laravel> ntd2: thx
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2667[15:48:54] <Wulf> zoomm10: question is not really clear. Are
you looking for chmod +t?
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2672[15:49:39] <petn-randall> zoomm10: What is your ultimate
goal? What are you trying to achieve?
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2678[15:50:58] <laravel> okay.. somebody in here have tried a
richochet for contact someone or your friend? did you feel the
problem sometimes cannot connect to your friend in richocet?
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2679[15:51:01] <zoomm10> i want to read to write and execute that
file
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2681[15:51:31] <laravel> as we know.. they use a tor connection..
but have little problem
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2691[15:54:02] <zoomm10> i do not want to change the permission
777, but no anyone can delete this file...
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2693[15:54:21] <petn-randall> zoomm10: Why does everyone need to
write to that file?
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2695[15:54:33] <ntd2> create a hardlink to that file
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2696[15:54:44] <ntd2> in case anyone deletes it it will still be
there in some backupped place
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2697[15:54:57] <ntd2> or do: alias rm="echo No! Dont!"
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2699[15:55:26] <petn-randall> Someone could still overwrite the
file with empty data. Which is why I'm asking for the use case.
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2700[15:55:50] <ntd2> if they have write permissions of course
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2701[15:56:10] <ntd2> 777 is bogus, but a hardlink would achieve
that its not deletable, if the hardlink has different permissions
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2706[15:57:47] <SimonB> chown to a trusted user, then set sticky
bit? (chmod +t)
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2742[16:13:29] <jelly> ntd2: hardlink cannot have different
permissions, it's literally the same file, just shown in two
places
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2744[16:14:01] <jelly> there is no "original" file with
hardlinks
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2748[16:16:34] <tw> specifically, it's the same inode. The
different directory entries reference the same inode in a hardlink.
Permissions, timestamps, and attributes are all on the inode.
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2751[16:18:55] <petn-randall> tw: I always thought hardlinks just
point to the same file contents. I actually tested this, and
changing permission on one hardlink also changed the other. TIL. :)
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2752[16:19:22] <tw> I thought I could do the same one time as
well.
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2753[16:19:38] <tw> did not work as I planned and that's
when I learned linux vfs XD
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2756[16:21:59] <jelly> more amusing stuff with hardlinks: if a
file has more than one link, you can't know where the other one
is stored and have to find ... -inum xxxx thru the whole filesystem
tree
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2760[16:23:25] <jelly> this is why cp and rsync do not deal with
hardlinks by default, it's somewhat expensive to find them
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2761[16:23:33] <zarzar> hi is there something in debian that
would block ssh connections that are not kept alive?
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2762[16:23:57] <Wulf> zarzar: context?
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2770[16:25:41] <zarzar> Wulf: i have a debian embedded board
(beagleboneblack) that will drop SSH connections and leave a hung
ssh connection until reboot of keys are regenerated
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2772[16:26:41] <petn-randall> jelly: I'm aware of most
caveats around hardlinks, which is why I try to avoid them where
possible.
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2773[16:27:17] <petn-randall> zarzar: What happens with the keys
on reboot?
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2774[16:27:19] <tw> jelly: it's actually not too costly as
long as they store a list of dir/inode mappings as they encounter
them. All of them.
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2775[16:27:21] <zarzar> Wulf: i have a debian embedded board
(beagleboneblack) that will drop SSH connections and leave a hung
ssh connection until reboot or known_host files are regenerated
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2776[16:27:37] <tw> They're already doing a full scan prior
to transferring the files.
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2777[16:27:43] <tw> (in the case of rsync)
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2778[16:27:57] <Wulf> zarzar: no idea really, strace and tcpdump
might help
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2779[16:28:00] <jhutchins_wk> zarzar: That is not normal Debian
behavior.
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2780[16:28:21] <zarzar> petn-randall: the ssh connection seems to
remain open until reboot, after reboot i can connect again, or if i
delete known hosts on ubuntu machine i can then connect again as
well
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2782[16:28:58] <petn-randall> zarzar: Why do you have to delete
known_hosts?
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2784[16:29:04] <zarzar> jhutchins_wk Wulf: may be some special
sauce from beaglebone cumminity added to image
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2785[16:29:44] <zarzar> petn-randall: deleteing known hosts
causes a new key to be used, i think this allows a new ssh
connection, so the hung connection does not interfere
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2789[16:31:57] <petn-randall> zarzar: known_hosts where the
public key of the host is saved. So unless a new key is generated,
you shouldn't be doing this. What happens if you don't
delete this file?
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2792[16:32:52] <zarzar> petn-randall: if i do not delete then i
cannot reconnect after an ssh connection freezes/drops (its more
like a freeze since the connection does not exit cleanly)
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2796[16:37:22] <petn-randall> zarzar: What error do you get if
you do?
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2799[16:38:59] <zarzar> petn-randall: if i do not delete then i
get a connection refused error when trying from ubuntu, or
connection timed out from tera term on windows pc
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2801[16:39:48] <tw> you're connecting from an external
device and it is reading known_hosts on the server?
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2802[16:40:18] <petn-randall> zarzar: Sounds like a) the IP
address/hostname of your beagle is changing, and you're
connecting to different machines, or b) "BeagleOS" is
doing something really weird in their images.
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2803[16:40:34] <zarzar> tw: the known_hosts file is on the
connecting from device, either windows pc or ubuntu machine
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2806[16:42:30] <zarzar> petn-randall: ip address could be
changing but that would mean the lease is very very short and it
reverts back to same ip
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2807[16:42:53] <zarzar> petn-randall: could be weird security in
the beaglbone image
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2809[16:43:42] <zarzar> petn-randall: they disable root for
security, because people were using the boards with out any
security, root access without password, and putting them on the net
that way
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2817[16:46:23] <EoflaOE> hello everyone. I decided that I am
resigning from here because I made a bad contribution to this
channel and I will be returning to
linux and #debian somewhere in May or July. Things like getting
ignored and my questions is being answered rudely (pointless
questions, helpless questions, helpless answers). Most of you is
nice to me. Last week, I asked ttf (?) a question on linux and he answered me rudely.
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2821[16:48:12] <tw> zarzar: what does the log file say on the
server?
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2822[16:48:22] <petn-randall> zarzar: I can't imagine a
scenario where deleting the SSH host keys on boot would improve
security.
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2825[16:48:53] <zarzar> petn-randall: i am not deleteing keys for
security, i delete them just to troubleshoot
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2826[16:49:14] <zarzar> petn-randall: maybe i need to change the
keep alive setting
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2828[16:49:25] <petn-randall> zarzar: I'm not saying *you*
are deleting them, but some script is deleting them on your beagle
during reboot.
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2829[16:49:26] <jelly> maybe stop deleting host keys completely
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2831[16:49:45] <jelly> in any case, that doesn't sound like
debian at all
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2832[16:49:55] <phanter> Hi. Does anybody know in which package I
can find the program: killall
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2833[16:50:06] <jelly> judd: file bin/killall
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2834[16:50:08] <zarzar> petn-randall: they are not deleted on
reboot, but the session is stopped by the reboot, so the connection
is allowed again anew after reboot
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2835[16:50:11] <judd> Search for bin/killall in stretch/amd64:
psmisc: usr/bin/killall
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2836[16:50:29] <jelly> phanter: consider using pkill and pgrep
instead
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2837[16:50:48] <petn-randall> zarzar: Then how would deleting
your known_hosts fix that??
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2843[16:51:45] <phanter> oke, and in which package are those?
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2845[16:52:08] <skupra82> hi
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2847[16:52:22] <jelly> judd: file bin/pkill
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2848[16:52:22] <zarzar> petn-randall: i think deleting known
hosts makes the next connection look like a new connection instead
of a reconnect to a hung session
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2849[16:52:26] <judd> Search for bin/pkill in stretch/amd64:
procps: usr/bin/pkill
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2854[16:53:09] <phanter> aaah, yes. it is installed by default.
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2855[16:53:12] <phanter> thansk!
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2857[16:53:17] <g0zzy> Trying to solve a problem that *should* be
easy. I want a box to send me an email when it's online.
I'm try to use /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d but my mailing
script is telling me that there are DNS problems. Isn't NM
meant to run those scripts when the network is in a working state?
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2859[16:53:36] <ewrrw> Hi, I have added apt package manager to
ifc6309 board (arch=aarch64), but there are no mirrors in my
/etc/apt/sources.list . So I always get Failed to read sources Error
when I run sudo apt-get update. Please point me to a good mirror
which can be added to my sources.list
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2860[16:54:11] <skupra82> is debian stretch working with geforce
7025?
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2861[16:54:20] <jelly> ewrrw: which debian release are you using?
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2862[16:54:41] <jelly> !debian suite
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2863[16:54:41] <dpkg> cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release
-sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the
distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab
almost all distributions.
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2867[16:55:27] <ewrrw> jelly: I am using a custom distro based on
debian jessie
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2872[16:57:12] <RedSoxFan07> ewrrw: what's it called?
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2873[16:57:24] <RedSoxFan07> ewrrw: Jessie Rides Again?
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2874[16:57:58] <skupra82> whitch debian GUI is best?
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2875[16:58:09] <skupra82> on laptop I use xfce
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2876[16:58:17] <skupra82> but I have 4 gb ram
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2877[16:58:30] <jelly> ewrrw: then ask your distro people about
the right repo sources
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2880[16:58:58] <jelly> ewrrw: if you were running debian, /msg
dpkg jessie sources.list
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2881[16:59:18] <mutante> skupra82: there is no "best",
there is only the one that fits your needs
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2884[17:00:00] <skupra82> mutante, i know that but xfce too light
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2885[17:00:10] <skupra82> ugly
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2888[17:00:47] <mutante> skupra82: ugly is subjective. but having
said that, let's make it simple, Gnome is the best :)
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2891[17:01:28] <skupra82> mutante, :) i suppose
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2892[17:02:09] <mutante> skupra82: Enlightenment DR17 but
it's old :)
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2893[17:02:42] <mutante> skupra82:
replaced-url
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2898[17:04:18] <RedSoxFan07> mutante: That sounds familiar.
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2904[17:04:48] <skupra82> oh too hard for me
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2915[17:07:06] <EoflaOE> I won't leave this channel. I
changed my mind
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2919[17:08:21] <zarzar> petn-randall: error: Timeout, server ...
not responding.
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2920[17:08:49] <jelly> EoflaOE: whatever you do, please keep to
the topic in here and avoid non-support writing.
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2921[17:08:57] <EoflaOE> ok
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2934[17:13:40] <ewrrw> jelly : Actually the distro is made by me,
so I got nobody to ask for good repo sources, I tried to use the
repo sources listed in debian wiki but even those sources did not
work for aarch64 architecture. Thanks for the help!
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2937[17:14:21] <jelly> ewrrw: what does "dpkg
--print-architecture" say on your system?
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2938[17:14:55] <ewrrw> Jelly: it says aarch64
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2940[17:15:34] <jelly> ewrrw: well, that's the first
problem: debian uses "arm64" not "aarch64" as
dpkg arch.
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2941[17:16:07] <jelly> ewrrw: did you build dpkg from source?
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2943[17:16:21] <mxh-> Anyone know how to get wpa_supplicant to
wake up after suspend? I have to manually restart it each time.
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2945[17:17:08] <ewrrw> jelly: I use yocto project to build my
distro which makes sure to build dpkg from source.
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2948[17:18:37] <jelly> ewrrw: then it's not likely
debian's binary builds will be compatible
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2958[17:20:56] <ewrrw> jelly: Thanks for the help!
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2961[17:21:31] <jelly> ewrrw: if you're lucky and have
bootstrapped enough of the system, you might be able to use deb-src
sources to get more software to build the debian way on your custom
arch
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2962[17:22:15] <jelly> ewrrw: otherwise, if you want to use
debian, I suggest setting up an arm64 chroot using debootstrap
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2972[17:26:34] <ewrrw> jelly: I just checked on wiki, arm64 and
aarch64 are one and the same architectures and arm64 was just a
fancy name given to aarch64 by Apple. Here is the link:
replaced-url
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2975[17:27:24] <jhutchins_wk> mxh-: You could use network-manager
to control it.
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2977[17:27:39] <RedSoxFan07> ewrrw: Very interesting!
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2981[17:28:04] <mxh-> jhutchins_wk: I do use NetworkManager
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2982[17:28:05] <ewrrw> jelly: If the sources work for arm64, then
they should work for aarch64 too right ?
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2984[17:28:05] <RedSoxFan07> ewrrw: So, theoretically, you could
run the arm64 port of Debian on an iPhone.
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2985[17:28:08] <g0zzy> Trying to solve a problem that *should* be
easy. I want a box to send me an email when it's online.
I'm try to use /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d but my mailing
script is telling me that there are DNS problems. Isn't NM
meant to run those scripts when the network is in a working state?
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2987[17:28:25] <mxh-> jhutchins_wk: I think... There is a
networkmanager service running that just kinda came with debian
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2989[17:28:43] <jhutchins_wk> ewrrw: The problem is the Debian
sources will have a different label for the arch - they won't
match.
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2992[17:29:16] <jhutchins_wk> mxh-: Yes, and use either the cli
app or the applet for your desktop to manage it.
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2993[17:29:17] <mxh-> jhutchins_wk: I have found a solution
actually but that involves making a unit that runs after suspend and
runs a shell script to restart wpasupplicant
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2994[17:29:29] <mxh-> jhutchins_wk: But it does not work unless i
restart wpasupplicant
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2996[17:29:38] <mxh-> like nmcli just says it can't do
anything
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2999[17:29:49] <jhutchins_wk> mxh-: That sounds like a reasonable
solution.
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3003[17:29:55] <ewrrw> RedSoxFan07: Theoretically It is possible.
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3004[17:30:16] <mxh-> jhutchins_wk: Alright, i thought it felt a
bit "unclean" but i guess i'll do that :P
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3007[17:30:25] <mxh-> jhutchins_wk: Thanks.
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3012[17:30:55] <ewrrw> jhutchins_wk: Thanks for the Help! I think
I figured it out!!
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3015[17:31:19] <brw> g0zzy: You could do this with a bash script
too. Just see if you can ping 8.8.8.8. If you can, send an email and
set a file in /tmp to be network_up. Then when it's down,
remove that file, change it to network_down, and wait until it comes
back up. YOu could even include how many minutes you were down by
looking at the datestamp of network_down. Remember to delete that
file and create the network_up file afterwards.
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3016[17:31:21] <tw> RedSoxFan07: only if you could get it to
boot, and had the right kernel device tree overlays, and had
appropriate hardware drivers, and so on.
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3017[17:31:24] <brw> then cron that for every 5 mins or so
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3019[17:31:27] <jhutchins_wk> mxh-: If you configure an interface
in /etc/network/interfaces, NM will not manage it.
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3023[17:31:53] <RedSoxFan07> tw: Yeah, the driver issue occurred
to me.
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3025[17:32:09] <tw> getting past the bootloader signatures would
probably be the hardest part.
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3026[17:32:38] <mxh-> jhutchins_wk: I move around a lot and
connect do different wifis so i need a flexible solution
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3027[17:32:50] <mxh-> jhutchins_wk: Otherwise i would
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3032[17:34:03] <g0zzy> brw: Thanks. I could of course try to ping
the mailserver. What if i can't though - loop i suppose?
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3034[17:34:13] <RedSoxFan07> tw: Yeah, kinda like trying to
install linux on a chromebook
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3035[17:34:15] <tw> mxh-: After=suspend.target
replaced-url
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3036[17:34:17] <jhutchins_wk> mxh-: That's the reason for
NM, so good.
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3040[17:35:27] <mxh-> tw: For my unit file to restart
wpa_supplicant you mean?
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3041[17:35:34] <tw> yes.
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3042[17:35:39] <RedSoxFan07> tw: It's unbelievably difficult
to install Linux on a Chromebook. When you get down to it,
Chromebooks aren't special in their pricing - you can probably
get equally specc'd machines at the same price without
ChromeOS. Only other reason to buy ChromeOS devices is because they
have CoreBoot instead of totally proprietary BIOS.
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3043[17:35:40] <mxh-> Gotcha. Thanks!
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3048[17:37:45] <jhutchins_wk> RedSoxFan07: The problem is
it's hard to get those other brands without Windows
pre-installed.
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3051[17:39:13] <brw> g0zzy: Just send one ping ata a time
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3053[17:39:55] <RedSoxFan07> jhutchins_wk: Also true.
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3054[17:40:09] <RedSoxFan07> jhutchins_wk: Though, I don't
mind installing Linux.
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3056[17:40:25] <RedSoxFan07> jhutchins_wk: Just means I get a
free WIndows license if I ever need it.
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3057[17:41:00] <RedSoxFan07> jhutchins_wk: Besides, even when
companies preinstall Linux, it's not the distro you want.
It's always Ubuntu.
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3061[17:41:37] <RedSoxFan07> jhutchins_wk: Ubuntu is great for
people who are new to Linux and people who aren't too
technical.
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3062[17:41:47] <RedSoxFan07> jhutchins_wk: But Debian is where
it's at.
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3065[17:43:24] <tremolo> Even if it was the distro I wanted, it
wouldn't be the install I wanted.
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3066[17:44:04] <RedSoxFan07> tremolo: Also true.
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3069[17:44:48] <RedSoxFan07> tremolo: A big difference being the
desktop environment. They might preinstall Gnome or KDE, but you
might want XFCE or LXDE or Budgie or Cinnamon.
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3070[17:45:04] <RedSoxFan07> * L X DE
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3072[17:45:31] <RedSoxFan07> I don't know why it turns x d e
into a smiley face
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3075[17:46:08] <tremolo> Must be something on your client; came
through here fine.
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3083[17:48:33] <zarzar> solved: another device has the same IP
address statically assigned
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3106[17:57:36] <sdgvb> hello all
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3108[17:57:58] <OtakuSenpai> will eclipse work in xfce
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3109[17:57:59] <OtakuSenpai> ?
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3111[17:58:21] <sdgvb> i have problem that i cant see anything on
my screen.. i was with hdmi and suddently i dont remember what
happen. and i somehow able to remote the computer with xrdp. is it
possible to set resolution on laptop remotely to screen laptop?
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3112[17:58:39] <OtakuSenpai> or does the lack of a opengl based
ui hinder it?
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3114[17:59:12] <josecapurro> sdgvb: You can use xrandr
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3116[17:59:29] <sdgvb> josecapurro: i know xrandr. how to use it
remotely for screen laptop? any help please?
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3117[17:59:36] <josecapurro> sdgvb: xrandr -q gives you the
output name and supported resolutions
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3119[17:59:49] <sdgvb> josecapurro: im on the remote computer
with xrdp will it work?
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3120[18:00:04] <josecapurro> sdgvb: xrandr --output OUTPUT_NAME
--auto will do
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3121[18:00:06] <sdgvb> and as a root because i cant login with
normal user
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3124[18:00:22] <sdgvb> will it work with root too? and what
OUTPUT_NAME?
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3126[18:00:51] <josecapurro> sdgvb: First try doing xrandr -q to
see the output names
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3127[18:00:57] <sdgvb> yes i got it
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3128[18:01:00] <sdgvb> what next?
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3129[18:01:04] <josecapurro> sdgvb: Then, use them in xrandr
--output
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3131[18:01:26] <josecapurro> sdgvb: For example, in my machine,
the output name is LVDS-1
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3133[18:01:40] <sdgvb> i dont think it will work
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3134[18:01:43] <sdgvb> i will pastebin
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3135[18:01:44] <josecapurro> sdgvb: So it is xrandr --output
LVDS-1 --auto
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3137[18:02:10] <sdgvb> please look
replaced-url
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3138[18:02:24] <sdgvb> from xrandr -q .
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3140[18:03:02] <josecapurro> sdgvb: Ah. I see.
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3141[18:03:40] <sdgvb> is ther a way to change xrandr remotely?
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3143[18:03:49] <sdgvb> my laptop screen is black..
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3145[18:03:54] <josecapurro> sdgvb: I'm looking into it...
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3147[18:04:26] <sdgvb> I also tried on laptop without remotely
type xrandr -s 0 and xrandr --auto but none worked and i
couldn't see any output :<
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3154[18:05:35] <jhutchins_wk> sdgvb: Can you switch to a console
and get output, or boot to multiuser.target?
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3155[18:05:39] <sdgvb> i tried now use export DISPLAY=:0 and when
i type xrandr -q I get No protocol specified and Can't open
display :0
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3156[18:05:42] <josecapurro> sdgvb: I think you can use xrandr
--display :0 -q
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3157[18:05:47] <josecapurro> sdgvb: Try it
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3160[18:06:14] <sdgvb> josecapurro: im getting "No protocol
specified, Can't open display :0" when type the command
you supply.
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3161[18:06:22] <josecapurro> sdgvb: It works in my machine
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3163[18:06:40] <sonnixin> hi, please i am using debian sid and
after update gnome wayland breaks?!, i just want to know were to
find the log like in xorg?
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3164[18:06:46] <josecapurro> sdgvb: Do you have a running X
session? ps ax | grep X
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3171[18:07:26] <josecapurro> sdgvb: I have sucessfully changed
the resolution of my display over ssh from my phone with xrandr
--display
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3172[18:07:41] <sdgvb> i will try again
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3175[18:08:00] <josecapurro> sonnixin: You can try journalctl -f
-m -n 1000
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3176[18:08:06] <sdgvb> i get output from xrandr --display :0 -q
after switching to normal user
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3177[18:08:10] <J-BBBBB> Hi, is anyone roundcube from debian 9
using? I have the problem that attachement will not send since the
last security update. Is it a know bug?
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3178[18:08:22] <jhutchins_wk> sonnixin: Either $HOME (look for
hidden files that start with .) or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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3179[18:08:26] <sonnixin> will try, thanks josecapurro
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3181[18:08:37] <sonnixin> jhutchins_wk:
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3182[18:08:39] <josecapurro> sdgvb: OK. Now try changing the
resolution.
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3183[18:08:40] <jhutchins_wk> !roundcube
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3184[18:08:41] <dpkg> Roundcube is an <IMAP> client written
in PHP. This software is not part of the Debian 8 "Jessie"
release (bug #775666) but is available in <jessie-backports>.
Debian 7 "Wheezy" users: SQLite v2 support was dropped,
see /usr/share/doc/roundcube-sqlite/NEWS.Debian.gz and
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3185[18:08:48] <sdgvb> josecapurro: how?
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3186[18:08:51] <sonnixin> jhutchins_wk: i want wayland log is it
there too?
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3187[18:09:09] <sdgvb> i tried "xrandr --output eDP-1
--auto" and i get: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyCan't
open display :10.0
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3190[18:09:33] <josecapurro> sdgvb: As the normal user, do an
xrandr --display :0 -q. Let me see it.
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3191[18:09:49] <jhutchins_wk> sonnixin: No idea. There are more
sid users in #debian-next on oftc.net
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3193[18:09:59] <sdgvb>
replaced-url
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3194[18:10:05] <josecapurro> sdgvb: You didn't specified the
display.
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3196[18:10:18] <sdgvb> i did.. eDP-1
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3197[18:10:29] <josecapurro> sdgvb: No. Thats the output
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3198[18:10:43] <sdgvb> oh
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3199[18:10:48] <sdgvb> but it's auto
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3201[18:10:51] <josecapurro> sdgvb: The command must be xrandr
--display :0 --output eDP-1 --auto
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3202[18:11:05] <josecapurro> sdgvb: --auto sets the resolution.
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3203[18:11:12] <josecapurro> !xrandr
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3204[18:11:12] <dpkg> somebody said xrandr was a command-line
interface to the <RandR> extension; used to set the screen
size, orientation and/or reflection.
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3205[18:11:17] <sdgvb> it's still not work
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3207[18:11:21] <sdgvb> im getting xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed
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3214[18:13:00] <josecapurro> sdgvb: Your monitor is connected via
HDMI?
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3215[18:13:08] <sdgvb> no i disconnect it
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3216[18:13:15] <sdgvb> because i couldn't see anything
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3217[18:13:28] <josecapurro> sdgvb: for this to work, you need
the monitor connected
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3218[18:13:51] <josecapurro> sdgvb: Then, run xrandr --display :0
--output HDMI-1 --auto
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3220[18:14:05] <sdgvb> i will try
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3222[18:14:09] <sdgvb> i hope it will work
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3223[18:14:22] <josecapurro> sdgvb: If that doesn't work,
try xrandr --display :0 --output eDP-1 --auto
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3224[18:14:34] <josecapurro> sdgvb: eDP-1 sounds like DisplayPort
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3226[18:14:42] <sdgvb> i dont have displayport
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3227[18:14:55] <josecapurro> sdgvb: OK. So it's HDMI, then.
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3228[18:14:57] <sdgvb> im getting this error "xrandr:
Configure crtc 0 failed" on the same commands
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3229[18:15:07] <josecapurro> sdgvb: Run xrandr --display :0
--output HDMI-1 --auto
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3231[18:15:28] <josecapurro> sdgvb: Hmmmm... idk, then..
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3232[18:15:44] <josecapurro> sdgvb: Gotta go.
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3233[18:15:51] <sdgvb> thx for trying man
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3236[18:17:44] <msl09> hello
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3238[18:17:56] <msl09> how do I use a different kernel branch
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3239[18:18:04] <msl09> from the one that's shipped with
debian?
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3241[18:18:47] <msl09> I need it for driver support for my video
card
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3244[18:19:10] <jhutchins_wk> msl09: That's not how it
usually works.
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3246[18:19:32] <msl09> how does it work then?
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3247[18:19:38] <jhutchins_wk> msl09: Drivers not adopted into the
kernel project can be compiled from source to match the kernel you
have.
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3248[18:19:56] <msl09> ahh
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3250[18:20:06] <jhutchins_wk> msl09: dkms is a utility that will
detect a new kernel and recompile the driver (once the initial
install is done).
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3251[18:20:23] <jhutchins_wk> msl09: What card? (Bonus if you
know the pciid - lspci -nn)
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3252[18:20:27] <msl09> amd
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3255[18:21:05] <msl09> ah yeah now that I'm reading it the
comment on the bug report said that I should use a different driver,
not kernel
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3258[18:21:15] <jhutchins_wk> !ati
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3259[18:21:15] <dpkg> Where possible, most ATI/AMD graphics
processing units are supported using the open source
"radeon" driver on Debian systems by default, ask me about
<radeon>. To install the proprietary "fglrx" driver,
ask me about <fglrx>; installing this directly from amd.com
(i.e. with the AMD Catalyst installer) is not supported in #debian,
please go to #ati on irc.freenode.net.
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3260[18:21:18] <msl09>
replaced-url
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3261[18:21:29] <msl09> the bug that I opened ^
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3263[18:22:06] <_Strix_> hello guys
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3265[18:22:30] <jhutchins_wk> msl09: It's pretty well known,
AMD/ATI keep changing the driver specs. WHile they do supply linux
drivers (which eventually get adopted), it takes a while for them to
be packaged in Debian.
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3271[18:23:57] <msl09> ah damn backports only goes as far as
linux 4.13 atm
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3279[18:26:48] <somiaj> I thought there were no ati/amd drivers
(outside of the free radeon and newer amdgpu in the kernel) in
debian. fglrx was dropped, and the amdgpupro seems to only have
ubuntu packages made by amd/ati.
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3280[18:26:58] <Psy-Q> wasn't it 4.10 that got amdgpu?
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3281[18:27:34] <somiaj> amdgpu has been around since before 4.9,
so is in 4.9, now there could be improvements after that I am
unaware of.
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3284[18:28:05] <msl09> yeah I'm using amdgpu driver
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3287[18:28:30] <Psy-Q> would be good to know what card
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3288[18:28:37] <msl09> but the HDMI audio for this video card is
not available for the current version of it
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3289[18:28:43] <somiaj> in debian that is about the best that is
supported for newer cards. I belive there is a way to install the
ubuntu package on debian, but it requires editing the script from
amd/ati and not really supported here.
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3290[18:28:45] <Psy-Q> i think later kernels have support for
newer cards
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3291[18:28:51] <msl09> Psy-Q,
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3292[18:29:00] <msl09> Radeon RX 460
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3294[18:29:37] <Psy-Q> ah, sorry. didn't read that earlier,
my bad. hmm, there was a changelog with which cards were added when
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3297[18:30:50] <Psy-Q> oh, just the audio. even more hmm. well,
if they already know they're targetting 4.15 it surely
won't be any earlier
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3299[18:31:07] <msl09> yeah
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3300[18:31:16] <Psy-Q> it won't be hard to compile a newer
kernel the debian way though, if you want to use the vanilla sources
from kernel.org at that point
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3301[18:31:30] <msl09> but now I'm curious to try
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3302[18:31:40] <sdgvb> anyone mind to help me?
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3303[18:31:53] <msl09> even if not having HDMI audio is not a big
hassle
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3305[18:32:08] <msl09> Psy-Q, is there any source on that?
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3306[18:32:22] <Psy-Q> msl09:
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3308[18:32:46] <msl09> thanks Psy-Q
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3312[18:33:05] <Psy-Q> msl09: no problem. there are some
prerequisites to get all the fakeroot, build-essential stuff:
replace